=== zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] persia: congratulations :) [12:29] Just to verify, would `debuild -S -sa -k` be a reasonable command to apply someone else's changes? [12:29] welshbyte: Thanks. [12:36] persia: Would work. Don' tforget you don't need -sa if its not a new .orig tarball. === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] persia: yes [12:37] chroot updating time. [12:37] TheMuso: Thanks. I'll go with debuild -S -k then. === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@port0122-abg-static-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] How come there is no seamonkey ? [12:41] c [12:41] gah [12:41] TheMuso: :P [12:42] ubuntu_: there should be for gutsy gibbon [12:42] joejaxx: Whoot! What was the hold up? [12:42] no Guts? [12:45] joejaxx: there should? [12:46] Hobbsee: yeap [12:47] cool === ubuntu_ pins joejaxx to his word [12:48] :) [12:48] ubuntu_: i was wondering that too === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] ubuntu_: i actually packaged iceape because i might use it in fluxbuntu [12:49] Whoot fluxbuntu :-) === ubuntu_ votes for ebuntu :-D [12:50] ebuntu? which one is that? [12:50] ubuntu with enlightenment, i'd guess [12:50] oh that is elbuntu === joejaxx grrs at the ubuntu derivative stereotype :P [12:50] Heehee [12:51] there is a #ebuntu but it's been empty for like 6 months now [12:51] ubuntu_: #elbuntu [12:52] Seriously? :-\ ? === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [12:54] Gotta go [12:55] ubuntu_: bye :) === persia [n=persia@p1033-ipbf37marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:58] this is great [12:58] :) === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macd [n=d@adsl-156-76-159.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === randomwalker [n=me@cpe-70-112-189-176.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === flithm [n=kvirc@blk-89-205-21.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] Hobbsee: hey you seen pricey in a while? 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The mailing list is not the bugtracker. Please file all bugs on the bugtracker. Kthxbye. [05:00] heh [05:05] :) Hey Hobbsee [05:06] hi RAOF :) [05:09] Hobbsee: so true [05:11] Well, probably the bugs tag should be set to something else. [05:11] Because that will keep happening if the bugs tag is set to the ML address. [05:11] heh, ...sort of like every mesa bug [05:12] I guess it's a way of making sure bugs get dealt with, spam everyone on the ML [05:12] So, is anyone actually replying to that guy, or shall I hit "send" :) [05:12] No. === TheMuso has just been out for a bit, and is returning to his coding. [05:13] Yay for coding, and extremely ambiguous responses :P [05:14] heh [05:14] RAOF: FWIW, I say hit send. [05:15] go send. === brentc4m [n=brent@adsl-75-62-178-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:15] 88% [11 Sources 378859/1175kB 32%] 19.3kB/s 41s [05:15] grumble. [05:18] heh === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@i218-47-39-53.s30.a048.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-198-168.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matthew_ [n=matthew@c-69-143-121-184.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@i218-47-39-53.s30.a048.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] I need a translation for bug 115180 [05:32] Launchpad bug 115180 in texlive-base "no se ha podido instalar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115180 [05:34] hmm, roughly "haven't been able to install"? [05:34] my romance languages are fairly poor, however [05:34] minghua: It is not possible to install. This output was produced when upgrading to 7.04 from 6.10. (I think). [05:35] minghua: Oh, and "The post-installation script produced an error code of 1" [05:35] persia: can you change the bug description directly? [05:35] persia: enjoying your newfound privileges yet? :-) [05:35] what is that language by the way? === persia refreshes the Portuguese language pack :) [05:35] heh [05:35] oh congratulations persia [05:35] something along the lines of it being impossible to install [05:35] minghua: Thanks. [05:36] persia: good. Here's ALSA. Catch. === persia watches as ALSA bounces off the rear wall and flies back towards sender :) [05:36] officially I am no longer an MOTU. Hooray! [05:37] crimsun: Congratulations ! === mischko [n=Scott@75.160.11.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] Wondering if there's a Motu here who would package the new pgadminIII? The one in feisty is very old. [05:39] #bug 90120 [05:39] Launchpad bug 90120 in pgadmin3 "New version of pgadmin3 available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90120 [05:39] Grumble. Spanish looks like portuguese until you look at the words carefully. [05:39] mischko: feel free to work on the source package yourself. [05:40] there are several MOTU here who are knowledgeable and can guide you. [05:40] crimsun, I'd be happy to give it a try. I suppose I need to download the source from pgadmin.org and get it to compile? [05:40] crimsun: officially you're still a core dev for many more months [05:41] ajmitch: shhh. [05:41] mischko: it would be wise to first check the Debian BTS entries for said source package. Then I recommend investigating uscan/uupdate. [05:42] crimsun, What's the BTS? [05:42] http://bugs.debian.org/pgadmin3 [05:42] There are debian packages for Sarge, Etch, Sid. [05:44] mischko: right. It would be wise to merge 1.4.3-2.1's changes into whichever newer upstream. [05:44] crimsun, can you outline this process? I've never made a package before. [05:45] I don't see anything much in BTS. [05:45] mischko: you won't be making one from scratch; you'll be updating the existing Ubuntu one and merging in Sid's latest changes. [05:46] mischko: the purpose of reading the BTS entries first is to gain familiarity for which bugs might be closed in the newer upstream version. === mattva01 [n=matthew@c-69-143-121-184.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] Where's a good writeup on the packaging scene? Something that explains terms like "upstream", etc. [05:55] there's a packaging guide on help.ubuntu.com [05:55] also in System> Help and Support if you're using Ubuntu [05:58] I've looked through both those sources and don't see anything besides how to install existing packages. [05:59] !packagingguide | mischko [05:59] mischko: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports [05:59] Cool. I'm off for some "light reading". Thanks! [05:59] hrm, anyone know about the status of gparted? [06:00] someone please suggest a time for the next MOTU meeting on the list [06:00] I want the newer version to get into gutsy, and then feisty, it's in unstable... but being in ubuntu's main, I can't bug MOTU about it :) [06:00] (any time I suggest won't suit most people) [06:01] mischko: the packaging guide is under the 6.10 tab. [06:01] (it's not present under 7.04) [06:01] crimsun, thanks for the clarification. [06:01] that sucks, I couldn't find it that way either.. [06:03] packaging guide need more love, if I remember Laserjock correctly [06:03] heh, yeah === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] thing is, the Debian New Maintainer's guide isn't bad [06:03] and it wouldn't be a bad idea to require that anyway, so that people will choose to contribute to upstream instead of just Ubuntu [06:04] Simon80: Since it's in unstable, it should be getting sync/merged for gutsy. I don't know whether backports cover main packages though. [06:04] ah [06:04] or, right, they probably don't, bah [06:04] whatever, I can backport it myself [06:05] I guess that means I don't care either way, I'll just backport it from debian unstable [06:05] they finally implemented powerful moving capabilities [06:06] which I always missed back in the day when I was still repartitioning my drive often.. I've never used LVM, lol [06:06] Actually, looks like you backports *will* do main packages. [06:06] you wha? [06:06] Once it's hit gutsy, try !backports [06:06] !backports :) [06:06] Sorry, I don't know anything about backports :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:06] !backports [06:06] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [06:07] nice [06:07] no wonder there has been so much more backport traffic [06:07] Why isn't irssi emacs? [06:08] I mean, I've seen those automated backport upload changelog entries... I just don't know how automated they are [06:08] anyway, I needed a /boot partition before my root one, and the new gparted can do that, the old one can't [06:08] RAOF: why would it be? [06:08] I discovered it by chance, since I still have gentoo on my box === Simon80 tapers off the rambling [06:09] ajmitch: Because everything should be emacs :P [06:09] Or rather, ctrl-a ctrl-k should kill the line. [06:09] lol [06:10] RAOF: it does [06:10] I like it that readline has slowly introduced me to emacs keybindings for the past year and a half without my knowledge === RAOF is stupid, and running in screen :( [06:10] lp; [06:10] lol* [06:10] RAOF: ctrl-a a ctrl-k [06:10] that's what bugs me about screen [06:11] Yeah, I know. Now that I've actually remembered the screen bit :) [06:11] mouse wheel support, actually, bugs me in screen [06:11] That'd be a bit cool. Surely it's technically possible [06:11] yes [06:11] but the fact that it isn't there now is a dealbreaker for me, with vim and such [06:11] I could live without it, but it's annoying [06:12] like I'm using windows again [06:12] in windows, wheel scrolling is so horrendously busted === RAOF *always* tries to wheel over an unfocused window. [06:12] and touchpad drivers do all sorts of disgusting hacks with the cursor to implement fake scrolling [06:13] which don't work on some windows [06:13] ironic that there would be better touchpad support on the free OS [06:13] horizontal scrolling and such [06:14] speaking of which, I don't think that works by default yet, that's a problem sort of [06:14] vertical and horizontal touchpad soft scrolling === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-45.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso_ [n=luke@ppp26-69.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] Gotta love people turning off the power before you can shut down. === costal79 [n=costal79@203.61.116.209] has joined #ubuntu-motu === white [n=white@debian/developer/white] has joined #ubuntu-motu === white waves === RAOF waves back [06:56] hello white [06:56] hi :) [06:57] ajmitch: i saw the mail send to you, sorry didn't know that you were a target :( [06:57] target? [07:02] hm? [07:03] ajmitch: about your pacakges [07:03] anyway how is it going here? [07:03] did i miss anything? :) [07:03] ok [07:03] nope [07:03] i am playing UTOM now :) [07:03] nothing happens here === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] good morning peoples!! [07:06] Afternoon jussi01 [07:06] my package builds perfectly, however upon installing i get nasty things like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21389/ [07:06] can someone help? [07:06] hello RAOF [07:07] jussi01: Linky to your revu page? Last I looked you didn't have all the requisite python-foo in there :) [07:07] missing stuff in debian/control [07:07] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5177 [07:07] ajmitch: wich stuff?? [07:08] jussi01: You might want to look at (my) specto package === jussi01 gets... [07:09] That's got all the python-foo in debain/control - pycentral wants some fields. Oh, and you *still* don't need both python2.5-dev & python-all-dev :) === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] ok, so what exactly does pycentral want?? [07:12] XS-Python-Version, under your source package in control, and XB-Python-Version: ${python:Versions} under each binary package, I think. [07:12] At least, that's what I've got in specto. and I read the debian-python-policy while doing that package: ) [07:12] ahhh, I see them in specto, ok then...:D === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.97.73] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:31] 0/win 11 [07:34] you lose === Knightlust [n=Dax@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@chello080109078174.4.15.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] good morning [07:54] Morning dholbach. 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