[12:27] <steve_> i downloaded the nvidia driver from nvidia's website
[12:27] <Daviey> steve_, is it not supported out of the box?
[12:27] <steve_> 1.0 9755
[12:28] <steve_> so far, i can launch the nvidia x-server setting
[12:28] <steve_> it detects my tv
[12:28] <steve_> but image is only black/white
[12:28] <steve_> however, when i boot/shutdown, i get the ubuntu splash in normal color on both tft monitor and tv
[12:29] <steve_> with out of the box, max resolution appeared to be 1024x768 too
[12:30] <steve_> whenever i manually change xorg.conf, i must be doing something wrong,
[12:30] <steve_> i only get console, and have to restart gdm with the original xorg.conf
[12:33] <steve_> ideally, i'd like the tv not to be a clone or extension of the pc screen
[12:35] <Daviey> steve_, if you using closed source drivers - why not use ubuntu's binary's?
[12:36] <steve_> new to ubuntu, i followed some howto's, noob is an understatement in my case :)
[12:37] <steve_> would you advice it is better for me to try and remove the current nvidia driver?
[12:38] <Daviey> wait 1
[12:39] <steve_> ok
[12:39] <Daviey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia  <--- that's quite a good guide
[12:40] <steve_> ok thank you, i'm going to start over with that info
[01:50] <superm1> Hey guys
[01:53] <Daviey> boo
[01:56] <Daviey> superm1, hey
[02:17] <superm1> Daviey, you say my ubiquity changes?
[02:17] <Daviey> i did say anything ;)
[02:17] <Daviey> didn't!
[02:18] <Daviey> Daviey, if your gonna be pedantic, at least get it right <grin>
[02:19] <Daviey> superm1, /mythbuntu/ubiquity/src/ubiquity-1.4.1mythbuntu1/ubiquity/frontend/ubiquity.glade  <- definitely that file you changed?
[02:23] <gardengnome> kinda OT, but... do any of you use amarok? it's crashing here all the time and i'd like to find a fellow ubuntu user.
[02:24] <gardengnome> complaining together is much more fun
[02:25] <Daviey> gardengnome, not used it significantly - i prefer rhythmbox
[02:25] <Daviey> can you reproduce it?
[02:25] <a5benwillis> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of "hdb i/o errors" while trying to install Ubuntu 6.10????
[02:25] <a5benwillis> trying to install so I can install myth of course :)
[02:25] <Daviey> a5benwillis, simple answer - try 7.04
[02:26] <a5benwillis> think its a driver issue?
[02:26] <Daviey> dunno tbh - but the mythpackages in feisty are *much* better
[02:26] <gardengnome> Daviey: it happens daily, but i don't have any specific procedures to make it happen. but you're right, i should get a backtrace instead of whining
[02:26] <Daviey> gardengnome, or just try and drop as many Qt apps as you can
[02:27] <gardengnome> Daviey: what do you mean by "drop"?
[02:27] <gardengnome> ah
[02:27] <gardengnome> i'm exclusively using KDE
[02:27] <gardengnome> gnome gives me fits. ;)
[02:27] <Daviey> that is fixable
[02:28] <Daviey> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <gardengnome> no, i really don't ant to.
[02:28] <gardengnome> want*
[02:28] <Daviey> heh
[02:28] <gardengnome> i'd rather eat broken glass
[02:28] <gardengnome> you know, it's just one of these things. :)
[02:28] <gardengnome> or i'd rather go back to fluxbox
[02:29] <Daviey> I used to be a huge KDE fan... but since gnome 2+ i quite like it
[02:30] <gardengnome> i never liked those bloaty desktop environments
[02:30] <Daviey> How did i get to have 33 instances of firefox open?
[02:30] <gardengnome> gnome takes too much 'freedom' away from its users...
[02:30] <gardengnome> heh
[02:31] <gardengnome> i usually have like 200 tabs open in firefox
[02:31] <Daviey> I'm scared of tabs
[02:31] <gardengnome> hum
[02:31] <gardengnome> is that related to your gnome habit?
[02:31] <gardengnome> ;)
[02:31] <Daviey> where did superm1 go?
[02:32] <gardengnome> he's still logged in
[02:32] <Daviey> he asked me a question - the disappeared
[02:32] <Daviey> bed time is looming
[02:32] <gardengnome> true
[02:32] <gardengnome> 2:30 here
[02:33] <Daviey> your worse than i am!
[02:33] <gardengnome> why? i've got another four weeks without school
[02:35] <Daviey> heh.. i've got another 8 hours before work
[02:35] <Daviey> better get some sleep
[02:35] <Daviey> nn
[02:35] <gardengnome> pure luxury ;)
[02:35] <gardengnome> g'night
[02:38] <superm1> Daviey,
[02:38] <superm1> i'm here
[02:40] <gardengnome> wb superm1
[02:40] <gardengnome> he's gone ;)
[02:40] <superm1> oh
[02:42] <steve_> hi daviey, are you still around?
[02:50] <gardengnome> superm1: have you got a few minutes? someone pointed out to me that "libmyth-0.20-dev" should be called "libmyth-dev" - you can't have two libmyth-0.XX-dev packages isntalled concurrently because the some files would conflict.
[02:51] <superm1> gardengnome, i'll be around in a few min
[02:51] <superm1> and we can chat then
[02:51] <superm1> ill ping you
[02:51] <gardengnome> k
[03:09] <superm1> gardengnome, i'm not so sure about that
[03:10] <superm1> let me double check what files are installed
[03:11] <superm1> ah your right, you wouldnt be able to install two concurrently
[03:11] <gardengnome> superm1: it looks like marillat is going to rename it to libmyth-dev
[03:11] <superm1> ok
[03:11] <superm1> i'll merge his changes after he makes them then
[03:11] <gardengnome> tino keitel contacted him about that issue
[03:11] <superm1> to make sure that we do it the same
[03:11] <gardengnome> he is also the guy who told me about it. i can forward you that email
[03:11] <gardengnome> ah, good
[03:12] <superm1> thanks for letting me know
[03:12] <gardengnome> i suppose he's going to use versioned depends to make sure that libmyth-dev matches the correct version of libmyth-0.xx-dev
[03:12] <gardengnome> it's all sitll a big miracle for me ;)
[03:13] <superm1> \:)
[04:20] <seabag> hi al;l