| Grey_Loki | q-t, it'll be written either on the back of your monitor, or in your monitor's manual | 12:26 |
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| q-t | Ok:) | 12:26 |
| Grey_Loki | But, IIRC, most/all modern monitors support a minimum of 60Hz - i'd check, just to be sure. | 12:27 |
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| vape | hello | 12:27 |
| vape | I booted up and my background isnt loading and my menu is gone from menu bar in XFCE, anybody know why that would be | 12:27 |
| q-t | I dont have the manual here right now, my dad has it. I got his old laptop when he got a new one:P | 12:27 |
| q-t | but ill see what i can do | 12:28 |
| zials | its better to only change the refresh rate if your screen flickers | 12:28 |
| IndyGunFreak | vape: can you right click the desktop and choose "Desktop settings" | 12:28 |
| q-t | the thing is, xubuntu works great on it, the only thing is openoffice. The graphics are all screwy in that application ONLY....hehe | 12:29 |
| vape | nope i cant even right click | 12:29 |
| IndyGunFreak | hmm. | 12:29 |
| IndyGunFreak | vape: are you using xubuntu | 12:29 |
| vape | yes | 12:29 |
| vape | feisty fawn | 12:30 |
| Pumpernickel | vape: alt+F2 brings up a run dialog. From there you can launch xfdesktop. | 12:30 |
| vape | no such file or directory | 12:30 |
| Pumpernickel | xfdesktop4, possibly | 12:31 |
| Pumpernickel | It's been awhile since I've been on Xubuntu. | 12:31 |
| vape | nope :\ | 12:31 |
| IndyGunFreak | vape: do you get a log in screen? | 12:32 |
| vape | yeah | 12:32 |
| vape | im on xfce right now | 12:32 |
| vape | but the menu button is gone from my menu bar and my desktop isnt loading | 12:32 |
| IndyGunFreak | ok, how di dyou start xchat? | 12:33 |
| vape | i have a terminal button on my menu bar | 12:33 |
| IndyGunFreak | ok... | 12:33 |
| IndyGunFreak | so you do have a panel at the bottom? | 12:33 |
| vape | yeah | 12:33 |
| IndyGunFreak | right click the panel, add to panel, then go down and find "xfce menu", and try to drag it to the panel | 12:34 |
| vape | well thats the first thing i tried to do | 12:35 |
| godless | how do I turn off the tooltips in the task list? | 12:35 |
| vape | the menu isnt even in list | 12:35 |
| IndyGunFreak | oh ok. | 12:35 |
| IndyGunFreak | wow. | 12:35 |
| vape | yeah hella strange x; | 12:36 |
| vape | im thinking about sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 12:36 |
| IndyGunFreak | thats what i was thinking actually | 12:36 |
| IndyGunFreak | but didnt you say this was an old PC? | 12:36 |
| vape | no its a decent pc | 12:37 |
| IndyGunFreak | oh ok. | 12:37 |
| vape | i just like xfce over kde and gnome | 12:37 |
| vape | havent had any problems with it up untill now | 12:37 |
| IndyGunFreak | yeah, -i'd rather my face be stomped by golf cleates than use kde. | 12:38 |
| vape | hah | 12:38 |
| vape | what are you using | 12:38 |
| IndyGunFreak | xfce | 12:38 |
| IndyGunFreak | vape: thats the only thing i can think of to try | 12:40 |
| IndyGunFreak | then once you have KDE running, reinstall Xfce, then you can remove KDE | 12:40 |
| IndyGunFreak | unless you want to clean install. | 12:40 |
| IndyGunFreak | oh wait.. | 12:40 |
| IndyGunFreak | i know. | 12:40 |
| vape | cant i do that from command line | 12:40 |
| IndyGunFreak | right click your Panel | 12:41 |
| IndyGunFreak | choose customize panel | 12:41 |
| vape | pl | 12:41 |
| vape | ok | 12:41 |
| IndyGunFreak | then click the + sign, which should mean there willbe a panel 1 and panel two int he pull down bar | 12:41 |
| IndyGunFreak | choose fixed position, and put it somewhere, top, side, somewhere where the other panel isnt | 12:42 |
| IndyGunFreak | make it full width for now.... | 12:42 |
| IndyGunFreak | then right lcick, add to panel, and add the menu | 12:42 |
| vape | no menu in add list | 12:42 |
| IndyGunFreak | you don't have an xfce menu in the add list? | 12:43 |
| vape | nope | 12:43 |
| vape | my shits broken | 12:43 |
| vape | x; | 12:43 |
| IndyGunFreak | looks that way | 12:44 |
| vape | ima jus fresh install | 12:44 |
| vape | thanks for tryin | 12:44 |
| IndyGunFreak | wil probably be easiest. | 12:44 |
| IndyGunFreak | no prob. | 12:44 |
| IndyGunFreak | good luck with it. | 12:44 |
| vape | thanks | 12:44 |
| vape | im out, peace | 12:44 |
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| abd | hello which program can extract .rar files ??? | 12:52 |
| Grey_Loki | abd, unrar | 12:52 |
| peepsalot | this is strange, i installed and ran democracyplayer, and now my XFCE desktop looks like a gnome desktop | 12:52 |
| abd | is it in system or download it ?? | 12:53 |
| Grey_Loki | You need to download it | 12:53 |
| q-t | when i was installing xubuntu, it stalled on language packs...i had to skip it. | 12:53 |
| peepsalot | all file(documents, images, movies) icons have previews, and my wallpaper reverted to default gnome brown wallpaper | 12:53 |
| Grey_Loki | abd, if you want a GUI, I believe that WinRAR has a linux version, too. | 12:53 |
| Grey_Loki | Which you would have to download and install yourself. | 12:53 |
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| abd | nop with CLI , I'm installing unrar :D | 12:54 |
| IndyGunFreak | Grey_Loki: do you know how to change the default device icons for Xfce? I have a USB camera, the desktop icon looks like a hard drive, i'd like to change that | 12:57 |
| Grey_Loki | Right click it | 12:58 |
| IndyGunFreak | ok | 12:58 |
| Grey_Loki | I'm not on Xubuntu right now, so I can't say for sure, but I remember that there's a menu there that allows you to change it | 12:58 |
| Grey_Loki | ...I think | 12:58 |
| IndyGunFreak | no.. not for devices | 12:59 |
| IndyGunFreak | for regular programs, yes. | 12:59 |
| IndyGunFreak | you can edit launcher. | 12:59 |
| IndyGunFreak | but when you right cick a device, it just says open/mount/unmount/properties/desktop.. then it shows the desktop menu | 12:59 |
| IndyGunFreak | desktop prefs, i mean, not menu | 12:59 |
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| peepsalot | what application controls the xfce desktop? | 01:04 |
| Jester45 | xfce4-desktop i think | 01:05 |
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| Jester45 | no its | 01:05 |
| Cubey | hello | 01:05 |
| Jester45 | xfdesktoip | 01:05 |
| Jester45 | xfdestop | 01:05 |
| Jester45 | aaarrrg xfdesktop | 01:05 |
| peepsalot | yay, it's back! | 01:06 |
| peepsalot | thanks | 01:06 |
| peepsalot | gnome tried to take over my xfce desktop, very sneaky | 01:06 |
| peepsalot | interesting though, to mix parts of gnome with xfce, never considered it before | 01:07 |
| peepsalot | what is the xfce window manager called? | 01:07 |
| Cubey | What's the lowest CPU someone has in here with Xubuntu installed to? | 01:07 |
| Jester45 | xfwm4 | 01:07 |
| Jester45 | 133mhz | 01:07 |
| peepsalot | ok | 01:07 |
| Jester45 | that i know of | 01:07 |
| peepsalot | Jester45, you did personally, or you heard of someone doing it> | 01:08 |
| Jester45 | heard | 01:08 |
| Cubey | Well, okay, let me ask in a better way ;) Who has a roughly 1GHz system (with 512-640MB RAM) with xubuntu? | 01:08 |
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| Jester45 | i have a 400mhz 256mb ram | 01:08 |
| Cubey | I current have Ubuntu installed to such a system and it's pretty speedy but I'm having problems with youtube's video lagging :( | 01:09 |
| peepsalot | what video chipset? | 01:09 |
| Cubey | AVIs are fine and I do have the accelerated driver | 01:09 |
| Jester45 | youtube videos are low framerate | 01:09 |
| peepsalot | Cubey, is your CPU maxed when you view them? | 01:09 |
| Cubey | nvidia Geforce2mx 200 | 01:09 |
| Cubey | peepsalot: let me double check | 01:09 |
| Jester45 | peepsalot: flash doesnt have the much need for vidoe because most of the processing is from the CPU | 01:09 |
| CoRnJuLiOx | hey, i was able to download thunar 0.8.0 from the 'net and using the installer i installed it to /opt because /usr/local was giving me problems. i then went to /opt to try and start Thunar, but when i started it, it said version 0.3.1 in the about menu. any ideas? | 01:10 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: try adding a panel applet to moniter CPU and see if it tops out when playing the video, or use a taskmanager | 01:10 |
| Cubey | peepsalot: around 80-90%, no more than 90% | 01:11 |
| Cubey | 87% is the max i've seen it so far | 01:11 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: have you tried with everything off other than the flash, what flash program | 01:11 |
| Cubey | on fullscreen, it runs abuot 92% max | 01:11 |
| Jester45 | thats becuase it has to draw more | 01:12 |
| Cubey | Jester45: everything off such as? | 01:12 |
| Cubey | and it's flash 9 | 01:12 |
| Jester45 | cubey like firefox open but nothing else and if you really wanted to test you could use a failsafe terminal session from the GDM | 01:13 |
| Jester45 | humm | 01:13 |
| Cubey | Jester45: righto, tried that | 01:13 |
| Cubey | only things open are firefox and the system monitor (task manager) | 01:13 |
| peepsalot | Cubey, you can try viewing the videos at a lower quality | 01:14 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: could you try it on a faster machine? youtube videos are going to look chopy | 01:14 |
| peepsalot | frees up CPU on my comp | 01:14 |
| peepsalot | and doesn't look too bad | 01:14 |
| peepsalot | just a little aliasing | 01:14 |
| Cubey | Jester45: well, what gets me is it's fine on XP pro on the same machine | 01:14 |
| Jester45 | what cpu | 01:14 |
| Cubey | P3 1GHz | 01:14 |
| Jester45 | so is it a lot more coppy or a little i noticed flash is slower on linux than windows | 01:15 |
| Cubey | a lot more, unbearable | 01:15 |
| Cubey | even set to lowest quality | 01:16 |
| peepsalot | I've noticed my desktop ni gerneral is not nearly as snappy under linux compared to windows :( i think it my crappy video drivers though | 01:16 |
| peepsalot | Cubey, what browser? | 01:16 |
| Cubey | firefox | 01:16 |
| peepsalot | 2.0? | 01:16 |
| Cubey | it's less unbearable normal screen set to lowest but heck that stinks.. | 01:17 |
| Cubey | firefix 1.5.0.5 | 01:17 |
| peepsalot | you don't have any strange extensions running? lots of tabs? does it help to restart ff? | 01:17 |
| peepsalot | you could try upgrading to 2.0, dunno if that would really help though | 01:17 |
| Cubey | no extensions, only one (or two when full screen) windows open, restarting obviosuly doesn't help | 01:17 |
| Cubey | i open FF fresh and new and it acts this way going directly to youtube | 01:18 |
| Cubey | just wonder if it MIGHT work better with xubuntu | 01:18 |
| peepsalot | you in gnome currently? | 01:18 |
| Jester45 | try running this in a terminal glxinfo |grep direct | 01:18 |
| Cubey | this is why i've stuck with windows for so long, it takes days to get a few things working | 01:19 |
| Cubey | peepsalot: yes / Jester45: i did, it's accelerated video. avis play perfectly fine | 01:19 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: not once you know what you doing, i use fresh install and get things set up in a hour or 2 in windows it takes days | 01:20 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: so it said yes | 01:20 |
| Cubey | yep | 01:20 |
| Jester45 | idk what to say | 01:20 |
| Cubey | nor I.. | 01:20 |
| Cubey | again, this is why i prefer Windows. linux seems to half not work for stuff :\ | 01:20 |
| peepsalot | well, xubuntu is worth a shot, you nkow you can install xubuntu-desktop and try it, don't need a full fresh install | 01:21 |
| Cubey | i've tried to love linux, god knows i have | 01:21 |
| Cubey | oh? | 01:21 |
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| peepsalot | sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 01:21 |
| peepsalot | then ctrl-alt-backspace and choose xfce in GDM | 01:21 |
| peepsalot | creful you will lose any open apps, so save whatever you need to save | 01:22 |
| Cubey | peepsalot: righto, already doing it ;) | 01:22 |
| Cubey | nothing is open besides FF. this is just a test installation mostly | 01:22 |
| Cubey | nothing at all important in the installation at all | 01:22 |
| Cubey | ahem, repeating myse;f | 01:23 |
| Cubey | myself | 01:23 |
| Cubey | i'm semi-experienced with linux in general, and i can never learn to like it enough to keep using it long term however | 01:25 |
| Jester45 | you know... i watch to many movies | 01:25 |
| Cubey | AVIs play fine | 01:25 |
| Cubey | but youtube doesn't :/ | 01:25 |
| Cubey | there's always something unacceptable about linux that turns me off :\ | 01:25 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: you might, have you tried diffrent distros? i started with xubuntu and i cant really find a good alternative | 01:25 |
| Cubey | yeah | 01:26 |
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| Cubey | mandrake was the very first years ago (2001'ish). it was okay but i had sound issues | 01:26 |
| Cubey | then i tried debian on some old 133 p1's with small HDs and hated the debian package manager at the time. ended up getting slackware to work well | 01:27 |
| Jester45 | i tried ubuntu and kubuntu i like kde's qt look for apps but not the taskbar and gome is ok but i dont like the lack of options | 01:27 |
| Cubey | so i ended up using slack more than anything else | 01:27 |
| Jester45 | my most hated package magner is yum | 01:27 |
| Jester45 | rpm is nice in the way that lots and lots of things have rpms for them | 01:28 |
| CoRnJuLiOx | i just installed thunar 0.8.0 and uninstalled the thunar 0.3.1 that i had on my system; how do i make the new 8.0 the default? double clicking on a folder now doesn't open it in the new thunar. | 01:28 |
| Cubey | seems a BIT less laddy in xfce... | 01:30 |
| Cubey | but still unacceptible (full screen) | 01:30 |
| q-t | I did the configuration for the graphics card that is shown on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and restarted. When i got to the login screen there is an error message continously poping up on the screen, and it wont stop...even after i logged in...what is this? | 01:30 |
| q-t | the error message was about the cdrom btw | 01:31 |
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| Cubey | seems like a crappy exchange IMO, decent web multimedia support for more security. i rarely ever even HAVE virus problems.. maybe once every 4 years | 01:39 |
| Cubey | took me 8 hours but i finally got nsv streams working in mplayer | 01:39 |
| Cubey | and they play fine | 01:39 |
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| Cubey | except an annoying error that happens when it loads | 01:40 |
| peepsalot | Cubey, there is an open source alternative to flash, called gnash, which might be more efficient. | 01:40 |
| Cubey | peepsalot: thanks, i'll look into that | 01:40 |
| peepsalot | unfortunately, it is not 100% compatible with all video sites yet | 01:40 |
| peepsalot | i think in the near future it will be though | 01:40 |
| peepsalot | i personally have not tried it | 01:40 |
| peepsalot | i think the dev version can play youtube, but not the stable release | 01:41 |
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| Cubey | meh, need to add a new repos | 01:44 |
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| Cubey | gnash won't install due to a dependency issue :\ | 01:51 |
| q-t | how would i make a xorg.conf.original-0 overwrite the xorg.conf in terminal? I think i broke the xorg.conf file, but i have a backup | 01:52 |
| q-t | scratch that | 01:53 |
| Cubey | grrrrrrrr | 01:54 |
| Cubey | it's fussing about a kdelib, so i try to get the newer lib and it says it has the newest, though gnash wants a newer one. >:( | 01:54 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: have you apt-get update apt-get upgrade ed? | 01:56 |
| Cubey | twice? | 01:56 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: look on the kde site and see if they have a newer lib | 01:56 |
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| Cubey | is this worth it? honestly? :S | 01:57 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: update gets a list of new packages upgrade installes them | 01:57 |
| Cubey | Jester45: already did it, yes | 01:57 |
| Cubey | ohhh | 01:57 |
| Cubey | UPGRADE | 01:57 |
| Jester45 | ok then did you look on their site? KDE's if they have new ones | 01:57 |
| Cubey | how do i install a newer one if i find it? :S | 01:59 |
| Jester45 | that i do not know | 01:59 |
| Jester45 | did you install gnash from the repos | 01:59 |
| q-t | is there another word program for linux other than openoffice?? | 02:00 |
| Jester45 | many | 02:00 |
| Jester45 | !!editors | 02:00 |
| ubotu | Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code | 02:00 |
| Cubey | Jester45: it won't, that's how i'm getting the complaint (sudo apt-get install gnash) | 02:00 |
| Cubey | it won't even try due to kdelibs4c2a | 02:01 |
| Jester45 | you can force it | 02:01 |
| q-t | Im thinking of programs to write school work on and such | 02:01 |
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| Jester45 | just a guess but with the -f trigger | 02:01 |
| Cubey | hm | 02:01 |
| Cubey | ok.. | 02:01 |
| Jester45 | staroffice if its still there but its like openoffice | 02:01 |
| Cubey | nope | 02:02 |
| Jester45 | i dont know any other than openoffice for what you seem to want | 02:02 |
| Cubey | found the kdelib on debian's site, trying that | 02:03 |
| q-t | ok. But is there an alternative source to install openoffice from, because it seems that there is something wrong when I download and install from the ubuntu universe | 02:03 |
| Cubey | conflicted with kidelibs-bin | 02:03 |
| Cubey | ARGH! | 02:03 |
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| Jester45 | q-t: ummm you can try the openoffice website you might have to compile, they might not have debs | 02:04 |
| q-t | ok | 02:05 |
| Cubey | i swear, linux isn't worth it. i've spent 2 days now messing around and it's still not working. doesn't even that long to reinstall and reconfig windows in a really bad virus attack (ie: no AV at all). | 02:06 |
| Cubey | well | 02:06 |
| Cubey | not working how i want it | 02:06 |
| Cubey | i'm not expecting much either | 02:06 |
| Cubey | :\ | 02:06 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: well stop using it then i tried to help | 02:07 |
| Cubey | Jester45: Oh, I'm not angry at ya'll, I do appricate the help. But it's just so frustrating :( | 02:07 |
| Cubey | it *should* just work with the normal flash plugin... :/ | 02:08 |
| Cubey | the machine is capable of doing so (under windows anyway). : | 02:09 |
| Cubey | :| | 02:09 |
| Cubey | needing a machine more powerful for linux than windows seems... wrong. | 02:09 |
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| Jester45 | Cubey: i have old machines that would beuseless in windows and they are serving well | 02:09 |
| Jester45 | in linux | 02:10 |
| Cubey | Well, when it comes to a 1GHz system like I'm TRYING to get this going on | 02:10 |
| Cubey | I will admit ubuntu is very user friendly and such, but it seems like linux is always many giant steps behind where it should be IMO | 02:11 |
| Cubey | maybe i'm expecting too much, i don't know. | 02:11 |
| Jester45 | you might just have a diffrent point of view | 02:11 |
| Cubey | But I think if someone is going to switch from Windows to Linux, then the distro needs to at least do multimedia the same, which is something so common... | 02:12 |
| Jester45 | i enjoy both windows and linux and use them for diffrent things | 02:12 |
| Cubey | Well, let me explain my reasoning. I was considering a linux machine for everday use (web browsing, chatting, watching video streams, etc) and a windows machine to the side for games, large downloads, burning, etc. | 02:13 |
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| Cubey | it seems the youtube thing is the only problem i'm having | 02:14 |
| Cubey | but it's kind of a big one as i use the site often | 02:14 |
| Jester45 | well i think linux is working on getting there one of the bigger speed bumbs is that linux is suposed to be non-properitary so very simple mulimedia things will not "just work" but they are getting there like the video drivers just a few weeks ago my 2nd newest card became opensource accerated | 02:14 |
| Jester45 | i think the othre block is... | 02:15 |
| Jester45 | Bug #1 | 02:15 |
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| Cubey | hm? | 02:15 |
| q-t | my ati card will absolutley not work:P | 02:15 |
| AlexC | hello, i unclicked the gdm in system > services | 02:15 |
| Cubey | I have an older nvidia card in the ubuntu machine, works accelerated fine | 02:15 |
| Jester45 | oo ubugtu isnt here | 02:16 |
| Jester45 | q-t: new card? | 02:16 |
| AlexC | how do i reclick it in console? | 02:16 |
| q-t | ati mobility radeon 9600 | 02:16 |
| q-t | its three years old or something | 02:16 |
| Jester45 | AlexC: you might have to google that i remember how to do it somewhere but i cant remeber, someone in here might know | 02:17 |
| Cubey | AlexC: 'sudo startx' and correct it | 02:17 |
| Cubey | I think that's what you want | 02:17 |
| AlexC | okay, brb | 02:17 |
| Jester45 | well... AlexC run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm | 02:17 |
| Jester45 | anbd you get gdm back | 02:17 |
| Jester45 | but make sure to recheck | 02:17 |
| Cubey | I was thinking it was a setting within the desktop gui | 02:17 |
| Cubey | Hmm, I think I may just resort to win2k for an everyday machine. or... hell. just stick to this one. one virus/trojan problem every few years isn't bad. i'm justa lil paranoid after a recent one that was my fault | 02:19 |
| q-t | is there a way to tune down the resolution in xubuntu without fiddling with the xorg.conf??? | 02:19 |
| Jester45 | Cubey: bug #1 is that MS has the magority market share, so things are made to work with windows 1st then linux 2nd | 02:19 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 02:19 |
| Jester45 | q-t: crtl + alt + -/+ | 02:19 |
| Jester45 | aa its back | 02:20 |
| Cubey | Jester45: ehh?? linux is #2? Wouldnt that be mac? | 02:20 |
| Jester45 | not sure i only seen 1 mac ever running in my life | 02:20 |
| Cubey | lol | 02:20 |
| q-t | Jester45: didnt work =_0 | 02:20 |
| Cubey | as far as hardware/software, mac is #2 i'd say | 02:20 |
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| Jester45 | well #3 but you get my point? | 02:21 |
| Jester45 | i have to go clean my car be back later | 02:21 |
| q-t | ok | 02:21 |
| cjae | ok why is my sound clicking in some media players while playing mp3?? | 02:21 |
| q-t | Cubey: do u know anything about tuning down the resolution??? | 02:22 |
| Cubey | but anyway, i'm not expecting linux to be exactly like windows in every respect. i don't expect windows apps to work (though they can under WINE) under linux. i was happy to get streaming NSV working. yet.... youtube isn't working | 02:22 |
| Cubey | Cubey: Jester45 just told you how ;) | 02:22 |
| Cubey | erm | 02:22 |
| Cubey | telling myself that :P | 02:22 |
| q-t | Cubey: didnt work:P | 02:22 |
| cjae | ok why is my sound clicking in some media players while playing mp3?? | 02:22 |
| AlexC | when i click sys>services it reads "The configuration could not be loaded: you are not allowed to access system configuration" | 02:22 |
| q-t | Cubey: ctrl+alt+ -/+ | 02:22 |
| cjae | notably vlc opps sorry for two posts | 02:23 |
| Cubey | press ctrl, alt and the + or - on the numpad | 02:23 |
| q-t | Cubey: I dont have a numpad on my laptop:P hehe, i tried with the 0 and the dash | 02:24 |
| Cubey | AlexC: did you do it as sudo? | 02:24 |
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| AlexC | yes | 02:24 |
| AlexC | and logged in as the admin user | 02:24 |
| Cubey | qt: laptop should have a way to enable emulated numpad | 02:24 |
| Cubey | hm | 02:24 |
| q-t | uhm, ok | 02:24 |
| AlexC | i'll try as root | 02:24 |
| Cubey | wait | 02:24 |
| Cubey | have you tried running the config tool in console? | 02:25 |
| Cubey | blargh, now i forgot the name of it and i just ran it earlier | 02:25 |
| q-t | Cubey: talking to me? | 02:26 |
| Cubey | no | 02:26 |
| Cubey | AlexC | 02:26 |
| Cubey | well, thanks for the help guys. but i guess i'll forget about linux, for the *tries to count the times.......* ...5th time? | 02:27 |
| Cubey | it seems to be a purely software issue, so there's not much that can be done i guess. :\ | 02:27 |
| Grey_Loki | Cubey, well, i'd say it's closer to a hardware issue, tbh - I mean, I run xubuntu 6.10 and 7.04, and YouTube works fine in Opera, FireFox, and IES4linux, as do any other flash applets. | 02:29 |
| AlexC | i haven't tried it in console | 02:30 |
| Cubey | Grey_Loki: P3/1GHz, 640MB, Geforce2MX 200 video card. should be good... | 02:30 |
| AlexC | i don't know app | 02:30 |
| Grey_Loki | Cubey, have you installed the nvidia drivers? | 02:30 |
| Cubey | AlexC: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 02:30 |
| Cubey | Grey_Loki: Yep. and glxinfo says yes | 02:31 |
| Cubey | And the nvidia logo comes up for a second or so upon booting | 02:32 |
| Cubey | glxgears didn't much work before i installed it, now it does | 02:32 |
| Grey_Loki | Cubey, have you added anything to the stock Xubuntu install, aside from trying to install Flash? | 02:32 |
| Grey_Loki | s/anything/much | 02:32 |
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| q-t | How can i enable numpad simulation for a laptop in xubuntu??? | 02:33 |
| Cubey | Grey_Loki: it's an ubuntu install with xubuntu desktop added on | 02:33 |
| AlexC | i fixed it | 02:33 |
| Cubey | q-t: look at your keyboard for a way to turn it on | 02:33 |
| AlexC | i don't know how though | 02:33 |
| q-t | Cubey: thnx, hehe | 02:33 |
| Grey_Loki | q-t, if you look on your laptop keyboard, there'll be the 'numpad' marked in a darker colour on some keys to the right hand side | 02:33 |
| AlexC | thanks for your hrelp | 02:33 |
| Cubey | AlexC: Good :) | 02:33 |
| AlexC | help* | 02:34 |
| AlexC | bye | 02:34 |
| Grey_Loki | And an 'FN' key somewhere - 'function' - just press that, and a key that has a character in the same colour as your FN key, to enter that character | 02:34 |
| Cubey | q-t: usually you have to hold down a button (or enable it) | 02:34 |
| Grey_Loki | Cubey, you downloaded the flash binary thingy from adobe's website, and installed it from there? | 02:34 |
| Cubey | wow, i actually gave linux support :P | 02:34 |
| Cubey | Grey_Loki: as i recall, yes (it was last night) | 02:34 |
| Cubey | it's flash 9 | 02:34 |
| Grey_Loki | Cubey, well, for future reference, doing any admin work (no matter how trivial) when you're not in posession of your full cognitive faculties is a large case of DO NOT WANT :P | 02:35 |
| Grey_Loki | Did you save a log of the installation? | 02:35 |
| Cubey | Grey_Loki: I honestly don't remember, that's about the only thing i cant remember doing. i know i did it, but that's all | 02:36 |
| Cubey | might have been done through the add/remove | 02:36 |
| Grey_Loki | Cubey, I take it you've tried a straight removal and reinstallation of Flash? | 02:36 |
| Cubey | I did so dang much video-wise last night i don't know | 02:36 |
| Grey_Loki | Add/Remove = Synaptic Package Manager? | 02:36 |
| q-t | its enabled, but the ctrl+alt+ -/+ still doesnt work | 02:37 |
| Cubey | Grey_Loki: I don't know it by name but that's probably it | 02:37 |
| Cubey | q-t: do the last command I gave AlexC then, in console | 02:37 |
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| Cubey | Grey_Loki: to answer your question better from earlier about if i've installed anything else after "stock", yes, lots of video related codecs etc.. trying to get nsv video working (and I did and it works fine) | 02:38 |
| Grey_Loki | Nullsoft Streaming Video? | 02:39 |
| Cubey | yes | 02:39 |
| Cubey | I watch a lot of streaming NSV and so i need that for a daily use system | 02:39 |
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| Grey_Loki | Hmm | 02:40 |
| Cubey | i think if i can get youtube working i can stand to use linux as a daily machine perhaps | 02:40 |
| Cubey | though i'm starting to think, yet again, it's not worth the hassle :( | 02:40 |
| Cubey | 1 day every few years to deal with a security/virii related problem on this PC. seems worth using windows for support for everything i need/want | 02:41 |
| Grey_Loki | My best guess (as a fairly new linux user :P) would be that during your installation of the NSV codecs, you installed an outdated version of a library required by Flash. | 02:41 |
| Cubey | well, i'm about to try reinstalling flash then | 02:42 |
| Grey_Loki | Cubey, it took me two distros and about six months of on-and-off effort to finally get LInux how I wanted it. | 02:42 |
| Grey_Loki | !flash-nonfree | 02:42 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 02:42 |
| Grey_Loki | !flash | 02:42 |
| ubotu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 02:42 |
| Cubey | !Gnash | 02:42 |
| ubotu | An open source flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ | 02:42 |
| Cubey | meh | 02:42 |
| Grey_Loki | Cubey, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Flash#Linux_and_Solaris that might help you | 02:42 |
| Grey_Loki | And this - http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_15380 | 02:42 |
| Grey_Loki | In your uninstallation/reinstallation of Flash, that is. | 02:43 |
| Grey_Loki | That's about all I can suggest - that and 'sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree', which I believe is the package name for the flash repos, if you wanted to reinstall via apt. | 02:44 |
| Grey_Loki | I'm off to bed - sorry I couldn't be of more help | 02:44 |
| Grey_Loki | Stick with it - nothing in linux is unsolveable. | 02:44 |
| Cubey | reinstalled, same lag | 02:45 |
| Cubey | flash site says the newest linux version | 02:47 |
| hitmanWilly | the repo ones tend to work better, set up for ubuntu | 02:48 |
| q-t | I get this error message about my cdrom when i boot up into terminal... and it keeps on popping up, never stopping. fills the whole screen.... | 02:51 |
| Cubey | oh, the hell with it :/ win2k with and a fw is better than unless days of configuring for what takes 2 minutes. thanks for your help but i guess i'll never like linux until it starts actually WORKING how i want it to. | 02:53 |
| Cubey | with av and fw* | 02:53 |
| Cubey | meh. anyway, bye all | 02:54 |
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| CoRnJuLiOx | ok, i'm having a bit of trouble w/Thunar. whenever i double click on a folder on the desktop it gives me an error that says the associated application can't be found. i can't open any folder on my desktop w/out first starting thunar from the terminal. i was told that i have to set the path variable for GDM, so how do i do that? | 02:55 |
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| q-t | would it be possible to just use a default vga driver for your ati card??? | 03:00 |
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| hitmanWilly | q-t: yeah, vesa | 03:05 |
| q-t | ok | 03:05 |
| q-t | the thing is that everything is working just fine, BUT, the graphics when I open Openoffice is all screwy.... | 03:06 |
| hitmanWilly | q-t: ? | 03:08 |
| hitmanWilly | q-t: define "screwy" | 03:08 |
| q-t | hitmanWilly: all different colors, the bars on the top are covered in just a chaos of colors and so on. | 03:16 |
| q-t | its black, and prickly with different colors | 03:17 |
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| q-t | do you understand what im talking about :P ? | 03:18 |
| CoRnJuLiOx | did anyone answer my question while i was away? | 03:19 |
| q-t | afraid no | 03:21 |
| CoRnJuLiOx | damn | 03:21 |
| peepsalot | q-t, if you just want a simple word processor, abiword is another alternative that you can try | 03:24 |
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| q-t | ok, is that compatible with microsoft word?? because i need to open the documents i write in microsoft word | 03:25 |
| q-t | nevermind, ill check it out:) | 03:27 |
| q-t | when you boot with the xubuntu liveCD, what does the option 'install with upgrade cd' do??? | 03:27 |
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| j1mc | q-t: i think it would allow you to upgrade from xubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 using the cd... in case you don't have access to the net to install the packages. | 03:32 |
| Catoptromancy | q-t, You can easily download OpenOffice which can handle more formats than MSOffice can. | 03:36 |
| Catoptromancy | And Feisty comes with OpenOffice word processor | 03:36 |
| q-t | Yes, i have openoffice, but its not working correctly | 03:37 |
| Catoptromancy | How is it now working corrently? | 03:37 |
| q-t | the graphics gets all distorted on the top bar.... | 03:37 |
| Catoptromancy | odd | 03:37 |
| Catoptromancy | I think AbiWord can do .doc files | 03:37 |
| q-t | ok | 03:38 |
| Jester45 | there is a bug about that | 03:39 |
| q-t | The thing is i need it to write assignments at school (university), and... | 03:39 |
| Jester45 | im not sure want one but lots of people are talking about it | 03:39 |
| Catoptromancy | Works fine on 2 PCs ive used | 03:39 |
| q-t | Jester45: it is???!! | 03:39 |
| q-t | it works fine on this pc too, but....not my laptop | 03:39 |
| Jester45 | im pretty sure its a bug if they havent posted it yet it will be soon | 03:40 |
| Catoptromancy | q-t, Just last monday I wrote my class notes on MS word, and opened them in OpenOffice | 03:40 |
| Catoptromancy | heh I like the convert to PDF feature | 03:40 |
| q-t | ok | 03:40 |
| Jester45 | ok i have a hp 712c on this computer and want to know if i need the cupsys and hplip or just one of them? | 03:41 |
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| q-t | ehm, do i configure my network in the xorg.conf file or somewhere else? | 03:44 |
| Jester45 | else | 03:44 |
| q-t | ok | 03:44 |
| Jester45 | are you asking about wireed or wireless | 03:45 |
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| q-t | yes | 03:45 |
| Jester45 | !wireless | 03:45 |
| ubotu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 03:45 |
| q-t | it was working, but then suddenly its not | 03:45 |
| Jester45 | o | 03:46 |
| Catoptromancy | my wireless does that | 03:46 |
| Catoptromancy | few times a day I need to go to "network" and uncheck and recheck box | 03:46 |
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| Catoptromancy | I use USB wireless | 03:47 |
| Jester45 | well i will be back in a little | 03:47 |
| q-t | Ill just try to refresh it then | 03:52 |
| q-t | but im gonna go to bed now....cherrybaiiii | 03:54 |
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| MissT | does anybody know if there's a good open source audio editor like Magix to use on xubuntu? | 04:31 |
| Catoptromancy | audacity? | 04:34 |
| MissT | i'll check that out, thanks, Catoptromancy | 04:35 |
| Catoptromancy | !audacity | 04:35 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 04:35 |
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| Guest38760 | Hi, I am new to linux. I will be putting it on my old laptop first. It is a Tecra 8000 Which version should I use? | 04:40 |
| === vidd recomends xubuntu....alt-cd | ||
| Catoptromancy | 7.04 | 04:41 |
| vidd | x86 | 04:41 |
| vidd | does that answer your questions, or do you need more info? | 04:42 |
| vidd | If you have broadband access via a wired connection, you can get the internet installer | 04:43 |
| vidd | it is a smaller iso, that only loads the basics and fetches the rest off the internet | 04:44 |
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| vidd | *wave* j1mc | 04:52 |
| vidd | Guest38760, did you want the link for the mini iso? | 04:52 |
| vidd | quess no | 04:54 |
| vidd | night all | 04:54 |
| j1mc | hi vidd | 04:54 |
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| billy | hello. I just downloaded the xubuntu 7.04 livecd and the stupid thing is asking me for a username/password to login via gdm. I have read around that the username is "ubuntu" and the password is empty, but this errors. What is the correct username/password? Thanks! | 05:29 |
| billy | *ping* | 05:30 |
| billy | o_O | 05:32 |
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| maxamillion | i really should know this, but how long is edgy supported for now that feisty is out? | 06:35 |
| tonyyarusso | 18 mo | 06:39 |
| tonyyarusso | So, April 2008 | 06:39 |
| maxamillion | tonyyarusso: ah, ok .... nice | 06:40 |
| maxamillion | i will be upgrading this work laptop in like a month so i am all set, just couldn't remember | 06:40 |
| maxamillion | i should have known that, i really should have ... but this is the first machine i have ever owned that isn't running the current release or even an alpha/beta of the next release | 06:41 |
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| AlexC | i installed mandriva on my xubuntu pc on a separate partition, mandriva created a new grub file and deleted all xubuntu entries, i put in root=/dev/hda1 boot=/boot/vmlinuz, when i start it the maouse doesn't work and on startup it has many failed modprobes, how do i configure it to load xubun tu correctly? | 07:13 |
| maxamillion | AlexC: when in xubuntu, enter "sudo update-grub" into the terminal and life should be back to normal | 07:14 |
| AlexC | okay i'll try that | 07:15 |
| maxamillion | AlexC: you can get to a terminal window by hitting alt+f2 and typing 'Terminal' in the run dialog that pops up and hitting enter | 07:15 |
| AlexC | didn't work | 07:18 |
| maxamillion | hmmm... | 07:18 |
| AlexC | it's a mandriva grub file i think | 07:18 |
| maxamillion | oh, then mandriva probably either took over the grub config or overwrote the boot loader in the mbr ... and that would probably be a mandriva thing ... something i would be really bad at helping with | 07:19 |
| AlexC | okay then | 07:40 |
| AlexC | i deleted mandirva | 07:40 |
| AlexC | and it still starts in a mandriva lilo | 07:41 |
| AlexC | very annoying | 07:41 |
| AlexC | i started xubuntu and xterm | 07:41 |
| AlexC | but mouse still doesn't work | 07:41 |
| AlexC | manamillion | 07:41 |
| AlexC | maxamillion | 07:41 |
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| maxamillion | AlexC: uhmm... you might need to re-install grub | 07:42 |
| AlexC | how | 07:43 |
| AlexC | that computer has no internet connection | 07:43 |
| AlexC | liveCD? | 07:43 |
| maxamillion | AlexC: actuall .... try doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub" and see if you can just reconfig it to load everything right | 07:43 |
| AlexC | it still loads mandriva lilo | 07:46 |
| maxamillion | hmmm.... | 07:46 |
| maxamillion | AlexC: ohhhh ... uhmmm, hold on | 07:46 |
| AlexC | k | 07:46 |
| maxamillion | AlexC: yeah, i think you might need to reinstall grub | 07:47 |
| AlexC | howzes | 07:47 |
| AlexC | ? | 07:48 |
| maxamillion | uhmm... can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? | 07:48 |
| AlexC | no | 07:49 |
| AlexC | different computer | 07:49 |
| maxamillion | ah | 07:49 |
| AlexC | and no sources would be any good anyway | 07:49 |
| AlexC | no connection | 07:49 |
| maxamillion | ok, can you look in it and see if it says something like "apt-cd <blah blah>" towards the top (should be on one line) | 07:49 |
| AlexC | unless i had alternative cd | 07:49 |
| maxamillion | naw, you should still be able to install things off the livecd (iirc) | 07:50 |
| AlexC | maybe | 07:50 |
| AlexC | hmmmmm | 07:50 |
| AlexC | me try this | 07:50 |
| maxamillion | ok | 07:50 |
| AlexC | doesn't have that in sources.list | 07:53 |
| maxamillion | hmm, might not be possible from the liveCD now that i think about it | 07:54 |
| AlexC | should i just re-install xubuntu | 07:54 |
| AlexC | it was a new install | 07:54 |
| AlexC | not much data would be lost | 07:54 |
| maxamillion | AlexC: check in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and see if grub is in there, if so we can technically work from there | 07:54 |
| maxamillion | AlexC: otherwise, yes ... a fresh install might be the best bet and you can actually get all the data off there with the live cd if you have a usb flash drive and a little time or possible a usb external hard drive | 07:56 |
| AlexC | there is a file called "lock" and a folder called "partial" | 07:57 |
| maxamillion | i am unfamiliar with that | 07:57 |
| AlexC | okay | 07:57 |
| AlexC | i will freashen up my onstall | 07:58 |
| AlexC | install* | 07:58 |
| AlexC | thanks for your help | 07:58 |
| maxamillion | ohhh, yeah the partial folder in archives .... i think that is for downloads that don't complete so they can resume from where they left off | 07:58 |
| maxamillion | AlexC: anytime, good luck with the re-install ... hope you can save your data :) | 07:58 |
| maxamillion | i think i am off to bed, i have to get up early for work tomorrrow | 07:59 |
| AlexC | bye | 07:59 |
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