[12:26] q-t, it'll be written either on the back of your monitor, or in your monitor's manual [12:26] Ok:) [12:27] But, IIRC, most/all modern monitors support a minimum of 60Hz - i'd check, just to be sure. === vape [n=vape@c-67-187-244-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:27] hello [12:27] I booted up and my background isnt loading and my menu is gone from menu bar in XFCE, anybody know why that would be [12:27] I dont have the manual here right now, my dad has it. I got his old laptop when he got a new one:P [12:28] but ill see what i can do [12:28] its better to only change the refresh rate if your screen flickers [12:28] vape: can you right click the desktop and choose "Desktop settings" [12:29] the thing is, xubuntu works great on it, the only thing is openoffice. The graphics are all screwy in that application ONLY....hehe [12:29] nope i cant even right click [12:29] hmm. [12:29] vape: are you using xubuntu [12:29] yes [12:30] feisty fawn [12:30] vape: alt+F2 brings up a run dialog. From there you can launch xfdesktop. [12:30] no such file or directory [12:31] xfdesktop4, possibly [12:31] It's been awhile since I've been on Xubuntu. [12:31] nope :\ [12:32] vape: do you get a log in screen? [12:32] yeah [12:32] im on xfce right now [12:32] but the menu button is gone from my menu bar and my desktop isnt loading [12:33] ok, how di dyou start xchat? [12:33] i have a terminal button on my menu bar [12:33] ok... [12:33] so you do have a panel at the bottom? [12:33] yeah [12:34] right click the panel, add to panel, then go down and find "xfce menu", and try to drag it to the panel [12:35] well thats the first thing i tried to do [12:35] how do I turn off the tooltips in the task list? [12:35] the menu isnt even in list [12:35] oh ok. [12:35] wow. [12:36] yeah hella strange x; [12:36] im thinking about sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [12:36] thats what i was thinking actually [12:36] but didnt you say this was an old PC? [12:37] no its a decent pc [12:37] oh ok. [12:37] i just like xfce over kde and gnome [12:37] havent had any problems with it up untill now [12:38] yeah, -i'd rather my face be stomped by golf cleates than use kde. [12:38] hah [12:38] what are you using [12:38] xfce [12:40] vape: thats the only thing i can think of to try [12:40] then once you have KDE running, reinstall Xfce, then you can remove KDE [12:40] unless you want to clean install. [12:40] oh wait.. [12:40] i know. [12:40] cant i do that from command line [12:41] right click your Panel [12:41] choose customize panel [12:41] pl [12:41] ok [12:41] then click the + sign, which should mean there willbe a panel 1 and panel two int he pull down bar [12:42] choose fixed position, and put it somewhere, top, side, somewhere where the other panel isnt [12:42] make it full width for now.... [12:42] then right lcick, add to panel, and add the menu [12:42] no menu in add list [12:43] you don't have an xfce menu in the add list? [12:43] nope [12:43] my shits broken [12:43] x; [12:44] looks that way [12:44] ima jus fresh install [12:44] thanks for tryin [12:44] wil probably be easiest. [12:44] no prob. [12:44] good luck with it. [12:44] thanks [12:44] im out, peace === abd [n=root@80.83.26.22] has joined #xubuntu === peepsalot [n=peeps@cpe-70-112-25-110.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:52] hello which program can extract .rar files ??? [12:52] abd, unrar [12:52] this is strange, i installed and ran democracyplayer, and now my XFCE desktop looks like a gnome desktop [12:53] is it in system or download it ?? [12:53] You need to download it [12:53] when i was installing xubuntu, it stalled on language packs...i had to skip it. [12:53] all file(documents, images, movies) icons have previews, and my wallpaper reverted to default gnome brown wallpaper [12:53] abd, if you want a GUI, I believe that WinRAR has a linux version, too. [12:53] Which you would have to download and install yourself. === srf21c [n=Seth@ip68-98-112-136.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === srf21c [n=Seth@ip68-98-112-136.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] [12:54] nop with CLI , I'm installing unrar :D [12:57] Grey_Loki: do you know how to change the default device icons for Xfce? I have a USB camera, the desktop icon looks like a hard drive, i'd like to change that [12:58] Right click it [12:58] ok [12:58] I'm not on Xubuntu right now, so I can't say for sure, but I remember that there's a menu there that allows you to change it [12:58] ...I think [12:59] no.. not for devices [12:59] for regular programs, yes. [12:59] you can edit launcher. [12:59] but when you right cick a device, it just says open/mount/unmount/properties/desktop.. then it shows the desktop menu [12:59] desktop prefs, i mean, not menu === Jester45 [n=ryan@d47-207.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:04] what application controls the xfce desktop? [01:05] xfce4-desktop i think === Cubey [n=Josiah@72.24.217.131] has joined #xubuntu [01:05] no its [01:05] hello [01:05] xfdesktoip [01:05] xfdestop [01:05] aaarrrg xfdesktop [01:06] yay, it's back! [01:06] thanks [01:06] gnome tried to take over my xfce desktop, very sneaky [01:07] interesting though, to mix parts of gnome with xfce, never considered it before [01:07] what is the xfce window manager called? [01:07] What's the lowest CPU someone has in here with Xubuntu installed to? [01:07] xfwm4 [01:07] 133mhz [01:07] ok [01:07] that i know of [01:08] Jester45, you did personally, or you heard of someone doing it> [01:08] heard [01:08] Well, okay, let me ask in a better way ;) Who has a roughly 1GHz system (with 512-640MB RAM) with xubuntu? === CoRnJuLiOx [n=jrtuvera@202.128.58.209] has joined #xubuntu [01:08] i have a 400mhz 256mb ram [01:09] I current have Ubuntu installed to such a system and it's pretty speedy but I'm having problems with youtube's video lagging :( [01:09] what video chipset? [01:09] AVIs are fine and I do have the accelerated driver [01:09] youtube videos are low framerate [01:09] Cubey, is your CPU maxed when you view them? [01:09] nvidia Geforce2mx 200 [01:09] peepsalot: let me double check [01:09] peepsalot: flash doesnt have the much need for vidoe because most of the processing is from the CPU [01:10] hey, i was able to download thunar 0.8.0 from the 'net and using the installer i installed it to /opt because /usr/local was giving me problems. i then went to /opt to try and start Thunar, but when i started it, it said version 0.3.1 in the about menu. any ideas? [01:10] Cubey: try adding a panel applet to moniter CPU and see if it tops out when playing the video, or use a taskmanager [01:11] peepsalot: around 80-90%, no more than 90% [01:11] 87% is the max i've seen it so far [01:11] Cubey: have you tried with everything off other than the flash, what flash program [01:11] on fullscreen, it runs abuot 92% max [01:12] thats becuase it has to draw more [01:12] Jester45: everything off such as? [01:12] and it's flash 9 [01:13] cubey like firefox open but nothing else and if you really wanted to test you could use a failsafe terminal session from the GDM [01:13] humm [01:13] Jester45: righto, tried that [01:13] only things open are firefox and the system monitor (task manager) [01:14] Cubey, you can try viewing the videos at a lower quality [01:14] Cubey: could you try it on a faster machine? youtube videos are going to look chopy [01:14] frees up CPU on my comp [01:14] and doesn't look too bad [01:14] just a little aliasing [01:14] Jester45: well, what gets me is it's fine on XP pro on the same machine [01:14] what cpu [01:14] P3 1GHz [01:15] so is it a lot more coppy or a little i noticed flash is slower on linux than windows [01:15] a lot more, unbearable [01:16] even set to lowest quality [01:16] I've noticed my desktop ni gerneral is not nearly as snappy under linux compared to windows :( i think it my crappy video drivers though [01:16] Cubey, what browser? [01:16] firefox [01:16] 2.0? [01:17] it's less unbearable normal screen set to lowest but heck that stinks.. [01:17] firefix 1.5.0.5 [01:17] you don't have any strange extensions running? lots of tabs? does it help to restart ff? [01:17] you could try upgrading to 2.0, dunno if that would really help though [01:17] no extensions, only one (or two when full screen) windows open, restarting obviosuly doesn't help [01:18] i open FF fresh and new and it acts this way going directly to youtube [01:18] just wonder if it MIGHT work better with xubuntu [01:18] you in gnome currently? [01:18] try running this in a terminal glxinfo |grep direct [01:19] this is why i've stuck with windows for so long, it takes days to get a few things working [01:19] peepsalot: yes / Jester45: i did, it's accelerated video. avis play perfectly fine [01:20] Cubey: not once you know what you doing, i use fresh install and get things set up in a hour or 2 in windows it takes days [01:20] Cubey: so it said yes [01:20] yep [01:20] idk what to say [01:20] nor I.. [01:20] again, this is why i prefer Windows. linux seems to half not work for stuff :\ [01:21] well, xubuntu is worth a shot, you nkow you can install xubuntu-desktop and try it, don't need a full fresh install [01:21] i've tried to love linux, god knows i have [01:21] oh? === Cubey tries that... [01:21] sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [01:21] then ctrl-alt-backspace and choose xfce in GDM [01:22] creful you will lose any open apps, so save whatever you need to save [01:22] peepsalot: righto, already doing it ;) [01:22] nothing is open besides FF. this is just a test installation mostly [01:22] nothing at all important in the installation at all [01:23] ahem, repeating myse;f [01:23] myself [01:25] i'm semi-experienced with linux in general, and i can never learn to like it enough to keep using it long term however [01:25] you know... i watch to many movies [01:25] AVIs play fine [01:25] but youtube doesn't :/ [01:25] there's always something unacceptable about linux that turns me off :\ [01:25] Cubey: you might, have you tried diffrent distros? i started with xubuntu and i cant really find a good alternative [01:26] yeah === abd [n=root@80.83.26.22] has joined #xubuntu [01:26] mandrake was the very first years ago (2001'ish). it was okay but i had sound issues [01:27] then i tried debian on some old 133 p1's with small HDs and hated the debian package manager at the time. ended up getting slackware to work well [01:27] i tried ubuntu and kubuntu i like kde's qt look for apps but not the taskbar and gome is ok but i dont like the lack of options [01:27] so i ended up using slack more than anything else [01:27] my most hated package magner is yum [01:28] rpm is nice in the way that lots and lots of things have rpms for them [01:28] i just installed thunar 0.8.0 and uninstalled the thunar 0.3.1 that i had on my system; how do i make the new 8.0 the default? double clicking on a folder now doesn't open it in the new thunar. [01:30] seems a BIT less laddy in xfce... [01:30] but still unacceptible (full screen) [01:30] I did the configuration for the graphics card that is shown on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and restarted. When i got to the login screen there is an error message continously poping up on the screen, and it wont stop...even after i logged in...what is this? [01:31] the error message was about the cdrom btw === Cubey sighs... [01:39] seems like a crappy exchange IMO, decent web multimedia support for more security. i rarely ever even HAVE virus problems.. maybe once every 4 years [01:39] took me 8 hours but i finally got nsv streams working in mplayer [01:39] and they play fine === CoRnJuLi1x [n=jrtuvera@202.128.58.209] has joined #xubuntu [01:40] except an annoying error that happens when it loads [01:40] Cubey, there is an open source alternative to flash, called gnash, which might be more efficient. [01:40] peepsalot: thanks, i'll look into that [01:40] unfortunately, it is not 100% compatible with all video sites yet [01:40] i think in the near future it will be though [01:40] i personally have not tried it [01:41] i think the dev version can play youtube, but not the stable release === ZenDJiNN [n=djinn@ABordeaux-156-1-73-53.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === Cubey attempts to find it..... [01:44] meh, need to add a new repos === blizz [n=blizz@evilhackerdu.de] has left #xubuntu [] [01:51] gnash won't install due to a dependency issue :\ [01:52] how would i make a xorg.conf.original-0 overwrite the xorg.conf in terminal? I think i broke the xorg.conf file, but i have a backup [01:53] scratch that [01:54] grrrrrrrr [01:54] it's fussing about a kdelib, so i try to get the newer lib and it says it has the newest, though gnash wants a newer one. >:( [01:56] Cubey: have you apt-get update apt-get upgrade ed? [01:56] twice? [01:56] Cubey: look on the kde site and see if they have a newer lib === Cubey grumbles [01:57] is this worth it? honestly? :S [01:57] Cubey: update gets a list of new packages upgrade installes them [01:57] Jester45: already did it, yes [01:57] ohhh [01:57] UPGRADE [01:57] ok then did you look on their site? KDE's if they have new ones [01:59] how do i install a newer one if i find it? :S [01:59] that i do not know [01:59] did you install gnash from the repos [02:00] is there another word program for linux other than openoffice?? [02:00] many [02:00] !!editors [02:00] Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code [02:00] Jester45: it won't, that's how i'm getting the complaint (sudo apt-get install gnash) [02:01] it won't even try due to kdelibs4c2a [02:01] you can force it [02:01] Im thinking of programs to write school work on and such === CoRnJuLi1x is now known as CoRnJuLiOx [02:01] just a guess but with the -f trigger [02:01] hm [02:01] ok.. [02:01] staroffice if its still there but its like openoffice [02:02] nope [02:02] i dont know any other than openoffice for what you seem to want [02:03] found the kdelib on debian's site, trying that [02:03] ok. But is there an alternative source to install openoffice from, because it seems that there is something wrong when I download and install from the ubuntu universe [02:03] conflicted with kidelibs-bin [02:03] ARGH! === sc0tch [n=sc0tch@12-227-172-64.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:04] q-t: ummm you can try the openoffice website you might have to compile, they might not have debs [02:05] ok [02:06] i swear, linux isn't worth it. i've spent 2 days now messing around and it's still not working. doesn't even that long to reinstall and reconfig windows in a really bad virus attack (ie: no AV at all). [02:06] well [02:06] not working how i want it [02:06] i'm not expecting much either [02:06] :\ [02:07] Cubey: well stop using it then i tried to help [02:07] Jester45: Oh, I'm not angry at ya'll, I do appricate the help. But it's just so frustrating :( [02:08] it *should* just work with the normal flash plugin... :/ [02:09] the machine is capable of doing so (under windows anyway). : [02:09] :| [02:09] needing a machine more powerful for linux than windows seems... wrong. === Jester45 tries to find a dvd player with a harddrive (he is using to many dvds) [02:09] Cubey: i have old machines that would beuseless in windows and they are serving well [02:10] in linux [02:10] Well, when it comes to a 1GHz system like I'm TRYING to get this going on [02:11] I will admit ubuntu is very user friendly and such, but it seems like linux is always many giant steps behind where it should be IMO [02:11] maybe i'm expecting too much, i don't know. [02:11] you might just have a diffrent point of view [02:12] But I think if someone is going to switch from Windows to Linux, then the distro needs to at least do multimedia the same, which is something so common... [02:12] i enjoy both windows and linux and use them for diffrent things [02:13] Well, let me explain my reasoning. I was considering a linux machine for everday use (web browsing, chatting, watching video streams, etc) and a windows machine to the side for games, large downloads, burning, etc. === sc0tch [n=sc0tch@12-227-172-64.client.mchsi.com] has left #xubuntu [] [02:14] it seems the youtube thing is the only problem i'm having [02:14] but it's kind of a big one as i use the site often [02:14] well i think linux is working on getting there one of the bigger speed bumbs is that linux is suposed to be non-properitary so very simple mulimedia things will not "just work" but they are getting there like the video drivers just a few weeks ago my 2nd newest card became opensource accerated [02:15] i think the othre block is... [02:15] Bug #1 === AlexC [n=chatzill@dragnet2034196193.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [02:15] hm? [02:15] my ati card will absolutley not work:P [02:15] hello, i unclicked the gdm in system > services [02:15] I have an older nvidia card in the ubuntu machine, works accelerated fine [02:16] oo ubugtu isnt here [02:16] q-t: new card? [02:16] how do i reclick it in console? [02:16] ati mobility radeon 9600 [02:16] its three years old or something [02:17] AlexC: you might have to google that i remember how to do it somewhere but i cant remeber, someone in here might know [02:17] AlexC: 'sudo startx' and correct it [02:17] I think that's what you want [02:17] okay, brb [02:17] well... AlexC run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm [02:17] anbd you get gdm back [02:17] but make sure to recheck [02:17] I was thinking it was a setting within the desktop gui [02:19] Hmm, I think I may just resort to win2k for an everyday machine. or... hell. just stick to this one. one virus/trojan problem every few years isn't bad. i'm justa lil paranoid after a recent one that was my fault [02:19] is there a way to tune down the resolution in xubuntu without fiddling with the xorg.conf??? [02:19] Cubey: bug #1 is that MS has the magority market share, so things are made to work with windows 1st then linux 2nd [02:19] Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [02:19] q-t: crtl + alt + -/+ [02:20] aa its back [02:20] Jester45: ehh?? linux is #2? Wouldnt that be mac? [02:20] not sure i only seen 1 mac ever running in my life [02:20] lol [02:20] Jester45: didnt work =_0 [02:20] as far as hardware/software, mac is #2 i'd say === cjae [n=cjae@142-165-37-205.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu [02:21] well #3 but you get my point? [02:21] i have to go clean my car be back later [02:21] ok [02:21] ok why is my sound clicking in some media players while playing mp3?? [02:22] Cubey: do u know anything about tuning down the resolution??? [02:22] but anyway, i'm not expecting linux to be exactly like windows in every respect. i don't expect windows apps to work (though they can under WINE) under linux. i was happy to get streaming NSV working. yet.... youtube isn't working [02:22] Cubey: Jester45 just told you how ;) [02:22] erm [02:22] telling myself that :P [02:22] Cubey: didnt work:P [02:22] ok why is my sound clicking in some media players while playing mp3?? [02:22] when i click sys>services it reads "The configuration could not be loaded: you are not allowed to access system configuration" [02:22] Cubey: ctrl+alt+ -/+ [02:23] notably vlc opps sorry for two posts [02:23] press ctrl, alt and the + or - on the numpad [02:24] Cubey: I dont have a numpad on my laptop:P hehe, i tried with the 0 and the dash [02:24] AlexC: did you do it as sudo? === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:24] yes [02:24] and logged in as the admin user [02:24] qt: laptop should have a way to enable emulated numpad [02:24] hm [02:24] uhm, ok [02:24] i'll try as root [02:24] wait [02:25] have you tried running the config tool in console? [02:25] blargh, now i forgot the name of it and i just ran it earlier [02:26] Cubey: talking to me? [02:26] no [02:26] AlexC [02:27] well, thanks for the help guys. but i guess i'll forget about linux, for the *tries to count the times.......* ...5th time? [02:27] it seems to be a purely software issue, so there's not much that can be done i guess. :\ [02:29] Cubey, well, i'd say it's closer to a hardware issue, tbh - I mean, I run xubuntu 6.10 and 7.04, and YouTube works fine in Opera, FireFox, and IES4linux, as do any other flash applets. [02:30] i haven't tried it in console [02:30] Grey_Loki: P3/1GHz, 640MB, Geforce2MX 200 video card. should be good... [02:30] i don't know app [02:30] Cubey, have you installed the nvidia drivers? [02:30] AlexC: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [02:31] Grey_Loki: Yep. and glxinfo says yes [02:32] And the nvidia logo comes up for a second or so upon booting [02:32] glxgears didn't much work before i installed it, now it does [02:32] Cubey, have you added anything to the stock Xubuntu install, aside from trying to install Flash? [02:32] s/anything/much === hitmanWilly [n=hitmanWi@66-190-176-18.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:33] How can i enable numpad simulation for a laptop in xubuntu??? [02:33] Grey_Loki: it's an ubuntu install with xubuntu desktop added on [02:33] i fixed it [02:33] q-t: look at your keyboard for a way to turn it on [02:33] i don't know how though [02:33] Cubey: thnx, hehe [02:33] q-t, if you look on your laptop keyboard, there'll be the 'numpad' marked in a darker colour on some keys to the right hand side [02:33] thanks for your hrelp [02:33] AlexC: Good :) [02:34] help* [02:34] bye [02:34] And an 'FN' key somewhere - 'function' - just press that, and a key that has a character in the same colour as your FN key, to enter that character [02:34] q-t: usually you have to hold down a button (or enable it) [02:34] Cubey, you downloaded the flash binary thingy from adobe's website, and installed it from there? [02:34] wow, i actually gave linux support :P [02:34] Grey_Loki: as i recall, yes (it was last night) [02:34] it's flash 9 [02:35] Cubey, well, for future reference, doing any admin work (no matter how trivial) when you're not in posession of your full cognitive faculties is a large case of DO NOT WANT :P [02:35] Did you save a log of the installation? [02:36] Grey_Loki: I honestly don't remember, that's about the only thing i cant remember doing. i know i did it, but that's all [02:36] might have been done through the add/remove [02:36] Cubey, I take it you've tried a straight removal and reinstallation of Flash? [02:36] I did so dang much video-wise last night i don't know [02:36] Add/Remove = Synaptic Package Manager? [02:37] its enabled, but the ctrl+alt+ -/+ still doesnt work [02:37] Grey_Loki: I don't know it by name but that's probably it [02:37] q-t: do the last command I gave AlexC then, in console === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.217.103.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:38] Grey_Loki: to answer your question better from earlier about if i've installed anything else after "stock", yes, lots of video related codecs etc.. trying to get nsv video working (and I did and it works fine) [02:39] Nullsoft Streaming Video? [02:39] yes [02:39] I watch a lot of streaming NSV and so i need that for a daily use system === zials [n=amistr@bas3-windsor12-1242507724.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [02:40] Hmm [02:40] i think if i can get youtube working i can stand to use linux as a daily machine perhaps [02:40] though i'm starting to think, yet again, it's not worth the hassle :( [02:41] 1 day every few years to deal with a security/virii related problem on this PC. seems worth using windows for support for everything i need/want [02:41] My best guess (as a fairly new linux user :P) would be that during your installation of the NSV codecs, you installed an outdated version of a library required by Flash. [02:42] well, i'm about to try reinstalling flash then [02:42] Cubey, it took me two distros and about six months of on-and-off effort to finally get LInux how I wanted it. [02:42] !flash-nonfree [02:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:42] !flash [02:42] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [02:42] !Gnash [02:42] An open source flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ [02:42] meh [02:42] Cubey, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Flash#Linux_and_Solaris that might help you [02:42] And this - http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_15380 [02:43] In your uninstallation/reinstallation of Flash, that is. [02:44] That's about all I can suggest - that and 'sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree', which I believe is the package name for the flash repos, if you wanted to reinstall via apt. [02:44] I'm off to bed - sorry I couldn't be of more help [02:44] Stick with it - nothing in linux is unsolveable. [02:45] reinstalled, same lag [02:47] flash site says the newest linux version [02:48] the repo ones tend to work better, set up for ubuntu [02:51] I get this error message about my cdrom when i boot up into terminal... and it keeps on popping up, never stopping. fills the whole screen.... [02:53] oh, the hell with it :/ win2k with and a fw is better than unless days of configuring for what takes 2 minutes. thanks for your help but i guess i'll never like linux until it starts actually WORKING how i want it to. [02:53] with av and fw* [02:54] meh. anyway, bye all === CoRnJuLiOx [n=jrtuvera@202.128.58.209] has joined #xubuntu [02:55] ok, i'm having a bit of trouble w/Thunar. whenever i double click on a folder on the desktop it gives me an error that says the associated application can't be found. i can't open any folder on my desktop w/out first starting thunar from the terminal. i was told that i have to set the path variable for GDM, so how do i do that? === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:00] would it be possible to just use a default vga driver for your ati card??? === Maybelline [n=jeremy@66-169-100-203.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:05]