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=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Jucato at Thu May 10 12:05:47 2007
(will00/#kubuntu) fdoving: do you think that there is any way to rescue all the data?12:21
hyperactivecronddoes one need to download src for ndiswrapper in kubuntu fiesty?12:21
PhinnFort!ndiswrapper | hyperactivecrond12:21
ubotuhyperactivecrond: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:21
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hyperactivecrondPhinnFort, all good and well but the kubuntu cd doesn't have ndiswrapper on it12:22
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PhinnForthyperactivecrond: then you need to install it;)12:22
fdovingwill00: fsck is my only suggestion. can't think of anything else, if the filesystem is broken, that's the tool that might be able to fix it, if the disk it self is broken it can't get much worse.12:22
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PhinnFortwill00: if all is lost, you have photorec and friends, but that should be the last solution12:22
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hyperactivecrondPhinnFort, well duh.12:22
kinfuleHello again12:22
nosrednaekimkinfule: hello12:23
ghost_okyeah thats the same instructions for ubuntu... so im guessing the kde methods only differnce is using the kde tool12:23
blackvdwhats the package to install alsaconf?12:23
hyperactivecrondPhinnFort, but the problem is i need to use said wifi card to get on the internet12:23
compilerwriterghost_ wine has some support for ie on linux for those obnoxious sites that are only IE compatible12:23
PhinnForthyperactivecrond: you could download the deb on a usb-stick or something12:23
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PhinnFort!ie12:23
ubotuFor Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort12:23
hyperactivecrondPhinnFort, is it on the archive site?12:23
PhinnFort!internetexplorer12:23
kinfulecould someone explain me how to use the makecommand?12:23
PhinnForthyperactivecrond: packages.ubuntu.com12:23
hyperactivecrondghost_, google search iesforlinux12:23
ghost_compilerwiter yeah i looked into that, it needs to be able to runa java tool and read my scanner...12:23
hyperactivecrondPhinnFort, mk i got it12:23
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hyperactivecrondftr it's a linksys WMP54GS12:25
hyperactivecrondpci card12:25
bkyuhh i still can't find wine, i have universe enabled but wine isn't in the repo12:25
PhinnForthyperactivecrond: i don't know too much about wireless cards, I just plug&play;)12:25
will00fdoving: it says i have a bad magic number12:25
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blackvdSo i just installed kubuntu 7 and have no sound. whats the best way to configure? I was thinking alsaconf but not installed.12:25
hyperactivecrondPhinnFort, i didn't ask.. it was just for the record12:25
hyperactivecrondand i know this doesnt work with bcm43xx12:26
compilerwriterbky what version of kubuntu are you using?12:26
PhinnForthyperactivecrond: ;)12:26
UlwenYou can find Wine in Automatix12:26
bky7.0412:26
blackvdbky: go to www.winehq.com and add the repo for it12:26
bkyok12:26
UlwenI tried Ie for linux in Dapper and it often crashed...12:26
compilerwriterIt should be there in the system settings menu then should it not.12:27
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hyperactivecrondwhich version of ndiswrapper do i need for fiesty?12:27
bkyadding those repos did it. thanks. :)12:27
compilerwriterbky good luck12:28
blackvdnp12:28
ghost_im so mad12:28
ghost_i missed the halo 3 beta12:28
ghost_stupid interweb12:28
dogatemycomputerI can't bring myself to buy it because Microsoft had their hands in it.12:29
PhinnFortfrom what I've heard they ruined it;)12:29
PhinnForti like to believe that is true12:29
ghost_oh im sure12:29
ghost_i just wanted it so all the other college age drones would be like 'wow... you have seen the future!'12:29
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PhinnFort;P12:30
hyperactivecrondwhat verison by default does fiesty install with ndiswrapper?12:30
PhinnForthow can I make a disk image bootable?12:30
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hyperactivecrondPhinnFort, is it an iso?12:30
ghost_but anywho, is guidedog a gui version of ipmasq12:30
PhinnForthyperactivecrond: the one that shows up on puc12:30
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PhinnForthyperactivecrond: it's a qcow image12:30
hyperactivecrondPhinnFort, ?12:30
nosrednaekimhyperactivecrond: 1.35 version of ndiswrapper12:30
hyperactivecrondnosrednaekim, ok thanks12:30
PhinnFortpackages.ubuntu.com12:30
hyperactivecrondPhinnFort, i got it the first time :)12:30
PhinnFort:P12:30
hyperactivecrondnosrednaekim, i only see 1.3.812:31
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hyperactivecrondi need -common and -utlis, right?12:31
nosrednaekimhyperactivecrond: thats the utilities version...12:32
ghost_wow  this beta is a gig12:32
ghost_i don't know if thats worth downloading lol12:32
hyperactivecrondnosrednaekim, -utils AND -common should work12:32
ghost_quakewars is going to be better anyhow12:32
hyperactivecrondoh well i'll check myself12:32
nosrednaekimhyperactivecrond: the wrapper itself (kernel module) changes more often12:32
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elyonHey, guys... just did a clean install of Edgy, but now everyone time I log out (selecing "End current session"), my entire system reboots...w hat gives?12:33
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will00on my desktop. i have a series of vertical lines across kicker and drop down menus, what are they, and how can i fix em?12:34
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will00is anyone alive out there?12:37
dogatemycomputerelyon.. you still there?12:37
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dogatemycomputerwill00: are the verticle lines tightly packed or more spaced out?  (like 1 or 2?)12:41
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ubuntuHello all12:41
ubuntuGreat day :)12:41
dogatemycomputergreetings!12:42
ubuntudogatemycomputer: Mine too!12:42
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dogatemycomputerubuntu: are the verticle lines ticketly packed or more spaced out?12:43
mo0osahi installed opendchub through Adept Manager, now I cant remove it... what could be the problem12:43
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will00umm mine are pretty evenly spaced out12:44
ubuntudogatemycomputer: spaced12:44
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will00ubuntu what kinda comp are u running?12:46
Pollywoghow do I prevent from getting that barebones Konqueror sometimes?  I want the full browser not the kfmclient thing12:46
PollywogI get two versions of Konq from the same link12:47
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dogatemycomputerubuntu: will00:  i'm just looking through google.. let you know if I find anything..12:47
Pollywogno way to know which one I will get until I click the icon12:47
will00alright thansk12:47
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mario_hola12:48
intelikeyshalom12:48
mario_nesecito saber como puedo instalar beryl en mi computador pero tengo una ati xpress 115012:49
Pollywogmario_: #kubuntu-es12:49
Pollywogthis channel is for English language12:49
mario_ok12:50
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intelikeymario_ also beryl is supported in #ubuntu-effects    iirc12:50
mario_i need install beryl in my kubuntu but i have a ati radeo xpress 115012:50
mario_beryl not working in my system12:51
intelikey!ati12:51
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:51
mario_but the driver for my video card not exist12:51
intelikeystrange how we get our needs and our wants mixed up so easily12:51
mario_ok12:52
mario_thanks12:52
Pollywoglike I want to eat ice cream but I want to be thin too?12:52
intelikeymario_ i can't do anything about that.   i'm not a code monkey and if i was i wouldn't know anything about that hardware anyway12:52
mario_ok12:52
Pollywogmario_: you might check the forums12:53
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intelikeyPollywog no like i need beryl to work but i want to breath12:53
Pollywogoic12:53
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mario_my computer is a hp-compaq nx632512:53
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intelikeylol     Pollywog   still not the same thing.12:54
Pollywogk12:54
mo0osahi installed opendchub through Adept Manager, now I cant remove it... what could be the problem12:54
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cucarachacual es el driver de tu computadora Mario?12:55
Alarmhello i am reading a guide of how to configure Lirc . there is a line written. "After this configuration is finished, you will see a message in your terminal about which LIRC module will be used" . as i installed it from the repo. i didnt see any name of module. how can i find which module is used so i can load it ?12:55
intelikey"need to be thin"    why on earth would anyone think like that ?     is there a narrow passage that you must pass through or something ?12:55
dogatemycomputermo0osah: there was a glitch in the software that, for some reason, it tries to start the service during the removal process which prevents you from uninstalling it.12:55
intelikeynever mind.   ot.12:55
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angasule!es12:56
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:56
mo0osahdogatemycomputer: so what do i do?  it's bugging me12:56
intelikeydogatemycomputer need/want  a work around for that ?12:56
auch_werhello! Somebody an idea how to change the kde's sound-display (excuse my english  ;-) )12:57
dogatemycomputermo0osah: intelikey: I just saw it in one of the discussion forums.  You can try terminating the service manually then try removing it using Synaptic?12:57
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mo0osahdogatemycomputer: how do i terminate service manually12:57
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dogatemycomputermo0osah: let me find it..12:58
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dogatemycomputerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44449212:58
intelikeya workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...12:58
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dogatemycomputerintelikey: yeah.. that :P12:59
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intelikeythat allows the prerm script of the package to run successfully and thus install/remove the package successfully.01:00
dogatemycomputermo0osah: did you get that?01:00
ghost_hey01:00
intelikeysay spook01:00
ghost_how do i use ipmasq to just keep my current settings and have them come up every boot?01:00
dogatemycomputerintelikey: i'm assuming the "start-stop-daemon" would be something like "opend" or "opendchub" (whatever the daemon is?01:00
intelikeyno that is the name.  "/sbin/start-stop-daemon "01:01
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intelikeyi have also seen  "/usr/sbin/update-rc.d "   throw errors on some packages.01:01
dogatemycomputerintelikey: then you should put that back.. right?01:02
ghost_how do i use ipmasq to just keep my current settings and have them come up every boot?01:02
intelikeyright01:02
mo0osahdogatemycomputer: I got the link... i'll follow it in a few01:02
will00dogatemycomputer: did u find anything about the lines?01:02
intelikeyghost_ sorry the system i know but the network i know not.01:02
dogatemycomputerwill00: there was a bug registered somewhere but i'm not positive its the same issue so I didn't list it here.  Someone made a comment in a blog somewhere that it might be the refresh rate set incorrectly.. but that's something that I would assume you already looked at.01:03
will00yea01:03
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ghost_interlikey, i have put in some real basic routing commands to pretty much do a net connection sharing01:04
will00dogatemycomputer: its probablly just my ancient hardware01:04
dogatemycomputerwill00:  its a strange one that I would love to mess around with but without being at the machine i'm totally lost.  I'm still a newbie personally.01:04
ghost_but i have been told i will have to enter the commands every boot because the kernal dumps that info01:04
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ghost_apperently this tool, iqmasq will make a script that does that at boot01:04
ghost_but i don't see, afterreading the man, how to do that01:04
will00lol its alright01:04
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mo0osahdogatemycomputer: so there's no way around to uninstall opendchub?01:05
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dogatemycomputermo0osah: follow intelikey's suggestion above..01:10
PhinnForthow can I merge two files?01:11
PhinnFortbinary files01:11
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dogatemycomputerintelikey> a workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...01:11
dogatemycomputerintelikey> a workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...01:11
dogatemycomputerintelikey> a workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...01:11
dogatemycomputerintelikey> a workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...01:11
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dogatemycomputersorry01:11
dogatemycomputerlol.. boy.. did I cut and paste that enough times?01:11
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dkillianbuntu01:12
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mo0osahdogatemycomputer: what does "rm the link put the script back in sbin..." mean01:14
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Zeelot3khello ^_^01:14
dogatemycomputermo0osah: here is my interpretation..01:15
dogatemycomputerintelikey: please correct me if i'm wrong01:15
dogatemycomputermo0osah: sudo mv /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon01:15
dogatemycomputermo0osah: sorry..01:15
dogatemycomputermo0osah: sudo mv /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon /root01:16
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dogatemycomputermo0osah: sudo mv /ln -s /bin/true /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon01:16
intelikeysudo mv /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon01:16
intelikeythat line ^   then uninstall your package01:17
illriginalCan someone help me format my usb flash drive to FAT16. GParted is not letting me format it to FAT16 and I NEED it to be FAT16. Please help!!01:17
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intelikeysudo rm /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon ;mv /root/rstart-stop-daemon /sbin/01:17
intelikeythen that line when you finish ^01:17
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dogatemycomputerintelikey: thanks..  i learned something new today.01:18
intelikeyerrr need sudo on the mv   ^01:18
mo0osahrm: cannot remove `/sbin/rstart-stop-daemon': No such file or directory01:18
intelikeyi'll repost it01:18
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intelikeysudo rm /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon ;sudo mv /root/rstart-stop-daemon /sbin/01:18
dogatemycomputermo0osah: did you sudo it?01:18
mo0osahyes01:18
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intelikeymo0osah ok run   which  start-stop-daemon01:19
illriginalCan someone help me format my usb flash drive to FAT16. GParted is not letting me format it to FAT16 and I NEED it to be FAT16. Please help!!01:19
kyah2004yow daskreech where u at01:19
dogatemycomputermo0osah: lol.. is not "rstart-stop-daemon" its "start-stop-daemon"01:19
intelikeycould be /usr/sbin on the later versions01:19
kyah2004does anyone know how to install flash without adept installer01:20
intelikeyah correct.   no rs*   my bad on the paste.   want me to redo my whole mess ?01:20
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mo0osahsure01:21
kyah2004whats the commadn mooosah01:21
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mo0osahit uninstalled. why do i need anything else01:21
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intelikeymo0osah you only need to make sure you system is saine if it uninstalled.   do   start-stop-deamon --version01:22
intelikeyto be sure.01:22
mo0osahmv: missing destination file operand after `/sbin/rstart-stop-daemon01:22
intelikeymo0osah do   start-stop-deamon --version01:23
dogatemycomputerintelikey: I think we need to write up the script and post it somewhere..01:23
noiesmoTrying to install kde4 alpha and I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21496 any help appriciated01:23
mo0osahstart-stop-deamon --version?  how do i get the version?01:23
intelikeydogatemycomputer heh yeah you write it.  i typo when i copy paste from you....01:23
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_6StringKng_when I login I get an error about some background image missing or something01:24
intelikeymo0osah do in a konsole;     start-stop-deamon --version01:24
dogatemycomputerintelikey: lol..  you can write and i'll copy/paste from you.. you're more accurate01:24
mo0osahbash: start-stop-deamon: command not found01:24
intelikeymo0osah ls /root01:26
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mo0osaheh?01:26
intelikeymo0osah do in a konsole: ls /root01:26
dogatemycomputermo0osah: just open konsole and type "ls /root" and tell us what you see..01:26
intelikeymay need sudo01:26
mo0osahit has two files01:27
dogatemycomputerintelikey: didn't need it from my kubuntu installation01:27
mo0osahstart-stop-daemon and tmp01:27
_6StringKng_so, can anyone help me?01:27
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dogatemycomputerintelikey: *dog wipes his forehead*01:27
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intelikeymo0osah do in a konsole;  sudo mv /root/start-stop-daemon /sbin01:27
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intelikeythen you are fixed.01:28
mo0osaho01:28
mo0osahok01:28
mo0osahno errors this time01:28
intelikeygood.01:28
mo0osahwhat was all that for anyway?01:28
mo0osahwhat is start-stop-daemon?01:28
mo0osahwhat did we do throughtout the entire process?01:28
_6StringKng_so....01:28
illriginalCan someone help me format my usb flash drive to FAT16. GParted is not letting me format it to FAT16 and I NEED it to be FAT16. Please help!!01:29
intelikeydogatemycomputer here post this as you like.  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/3652901:29
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ghost__saweeeet01:29
mo0osahi need to learn this, rather than just copy pasting it hehe01:29
ghost__i just rebooted and it works!01:29
Zeelot3kso I've installed kubuntu and during installation had it mount one of my ntfs partitions and a backup ext3 partition as /media/sdb6 and /media/sda5, but how can I make it so it mounts them allowing read/write to all users for the ext3 partition and read only for the ntfs(which I think it is already actually)01:29
ghost__mh0hsah brings up a good point01:29
ghost__anyone here can refer me to a decient book01:29
dogatemycomputerintelikey: sure.. did you want to give a brief explanation of what this does and did you want me to credit you somehow?01:29
ghost__i mean real book01:29
intelikeyillriginal fat16 is 2g limit  how big is this drive ?01:30
ghost__that can in-detail-explain the workings of linux and the GNU softwares?01:30
illriginalcrap its 4gb01:30
Zeelot3kthe only problem is the ext3 partition is mounted with owner and group being root so I cant write to it from any other account01:30
intelikeydogatemycomputer it's yours do with it as you like.01:30
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illriginalintelikey, i need it for my ps2 and my ps2 only reads FAT or FAT1601:30
ghost__i assume there is an oriley on the subject01:31
intelikeyillriginal then you have two choices.   make two partitions on it and fromat both   or use a different fs01:31
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illriginalnice01:31
ghost__ps2 can only read fat16?01:31
intelikeyillriginal are you sure it doesn't read fat32 ?01:31
illriginalso i can use 1 as fat16 and the other as fat32?01:31
illriginalim more than positive.01:31
ghost__that weired01:31
intelikeyillriginal with partitions you can yes.01:31
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illriginalok cool... im gonna try that i hope it works with gparted01:32
ghost__i wonder why they would design it in such a way?01:32
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illriginalHeh.. the PS3 can read FAT16, FAT32, NTFS, and ext301:33
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intelikeyillriginal use what you will to make the partitions  and then   sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sdd1    (assuming the device as sdd, adjust accordingly)01:34
illriginalsda01:34
illriginalack i got an error01:35
intelikeyremember to make it less than 2g or it will error.01:35
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illriginalyeah i did01:35
dogatemycomputerintelikey: posted..  i corrected the spelling mistake if that's ok..01:35
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illriginalhold on -_-01:35
ghost__error to connect  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.01:35
_6StringKng_anyone installed the xfire plugin for gaim before?01:35
intelikey1.9999 should work.01:35
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ghost__is there anyway i can make the updateer use a different server?01:35
intelikeydogatemycomputer hehhe i said it was yours.  :)01:35
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intelikeydogatemycomputer spelling correction?  /me thinks it needed a gramatical correction  uninstall >>> remove01:37
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intelikeydogatemycomputer and line 5 needs sudo prepended    ;/01:38
illriginalintelikey: The following operation could not be applied to disk:01:38
illriginalCreate Primary Partition #1 (fat16, 1000.00 MiB) on /dev/sda01:38
intelikeyhmmmm01:38
intelikeyillriginal in a konsole    sudo fdisk -l01:39
intelikeypastebin the output01:39
dogatemycomputerintelikey: good point.. let me make sure I did that..01:39
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illriginalpastebin.com <- doesnt work right now01:39
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intelikeydogatemycomputer i'm quite prone to not type sudo seeing that it's useless on this system01:40
intelikeyillriginal pastebin.us01:40
intelikeyillriginal pastebin.ca01:40
manwithafaceI encountered the seemingly common initranfs no job control tty issue today, but everything I saw involved the LiveCD, and I am running an otherwise stable 7.04 upgraded in April. Any thoughts?01:40
intelikeyor others01:40
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intelikeymanwithaface more accurately termed "unable to mount the root fs, and dropping you into a busybox shell"  issue01:41
manwithafaceseems correct01:41
illriginalnon of those work bro01:41
dogatemycomputerintelikey: do you login as root or just make yourself part of root?01:41
intelikeydogatemycomputer no.01:41
illriginalnevermind01:41
illriginalca works01:41
dogatemycomputerintelikey: why useless?01:42
intelikeydogatemycomputer i do have a root console tho01:42
illriginalintelikey: http://pastebin.ca/49596101:42
intelikeynosuid system01:42
intelikeyillriginal looking01:42
manwithafaceintelikey: do you know what would cause this in a stable system?01:42
manwithafaceintelikey: I have googled and most of the bugs dealt with LiveCDs, I haven't seen anything about this occuring on an established install01:43
intelikeyillriginal looks like you should be able to;  sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda101:43
mc__ do you know when kde-look.org will be back again?01:44
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illriginalillriginal@illriginal:~$ sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda101:44
illriginalmkfs.msdos 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)01:44
illriginalmkfs.msdos: /dev/sda1 contains a mounted file system.01:44
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rayluillriginal, umount it01:45
raylusudo umount sda101:45
illriginal sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda101:46
illriginalmkfs.msdos 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)01:46
illriginal/dev/sda1: No such file or directory01:46
illriginalyeah i right clicked and clicked eject which is unmounting it.01:46
intelikeymanwithaface yes three common issues come to mind.  1, the initramfs was updated umpropperly (sujests a kernel update has occured)  solution rebuild the initramfs.    2. the bios has changed and the root fs is not where the initramfs expects it to be,  solution; rebuild the initramfs.img or correct the bios.    3. the hd has been phisically moved.  i.e. cable unpluged and pluged into another bus.  solution undo the change. 01:47
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illriginalthen typed out the command again, and of course it'll give me that error... it's unmounted lol01:47
intelikeycable)01:47
rayludid you just type "umpropperly"?01:47
manwithafaceintelikey: It is a laptop, so not hardware change, haven't changed bios, so must be the first01:48
manwithafaceintelikey: how would I go about rebuilding the initramfs?01:48
intelikeymanwithaface one final thing that can cause that issue.  and this is the one we don't want it to be.    fs failure.    probably cause 1. some knothead did an fdisk or format on it.   2. actual hd dying.01:48
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illriginalintelikey, what do I do now?01:49
illriginalI wish my step dad wasn't greedy with his computer, i'd just format it on windows xp01:49
rayludid mkfs.msdos run successfully?01:49
intelikeyto rebuild the initramfs.img     sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-`uname -r` `uname -r`01:49
illriginalno raylu01:49
illriginal sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda101:49
illriginalmkfs.msdos 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)01:49
illriginal/dev/sda1: No such file or directory01:49
manwithafaceintelikey: I am running windows from the same HDD, so drive works, I have mounted the filesystem under a livecd and it mounted and was broseable without complaint.01:49
rayluwtf?01:49
illriginal^ that's what I get when I unmount and try to make partition01:49
intelikeyillriginal did you make the fs on the partition ?01:50
illriginaldood i deleted the partition because it WAS FAT32, then I made a new partition, and clicked format to: FAT1601:50
raylu[18:44:39]  <illriginal> mkfs.msdos: /dev/sda1 contains a mounted file system.01:50
illriginalnow all it does is gives me errors01:50
raylucan't you do all this from qtparted anyway?01:50
intelikeymanwithaface then you can pretty well eliminate the last and worst of those.01:50
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illriginalraylu.. i've been trying to do this with my thumb drive for an hour now... i just keep gettin errors about how it's mounted01:51
illriginalbut then if i unmount it01:51
illriginalit wont exist on the list of devices01:51
illriginalso it's a double edge sword.01:51
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manwithafaceintelikey: that is great, drive failure sucks. I do have my /home/ under a different partition so worst thing is a fresh 7.04 and a long day of reinstalling programs and settings01:51
illriginalseems like linux fails to format a usb thumb drive.01:51
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rayluyou can unmount without ejecting. how are you unmounting?01:52
illriginalim ejecting and unmounting... non of it works.01:52
raylutry just using sudo umount on it01:52
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intelikeyillriginal no.  partition type is not important.  fat is fat on partitions.  you can change the type code and the fs remain...   oh well. i'm pressed for time.        illriginal kill everything reading/viewing that drive, unplug it and replug it start over.  run  sudo cfdisk /dev/sda     and when finished  sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda1    good luck to your pinguin.01:53
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rayluwhy is his thumbdrive sda1?01:53
intelikeymanwithaface try rebuilding the initramfs and make sure /boot/grub/menu.lst is pointed at the new one.     and good luck to your pinguin.   i'm out.01:54
manwithafaceintelikey: i do recall a kernel update/upgrade, but that wasn't too recently, and I have rebooted multiple times since then. I did attempt to upgrade some packages through adept yesterday and got a message saying changes couldn't be commited. I assumed this was trivial01:54
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illriginalugh01:54
illriginalit made it into a linux now01:54
illriginalintelikey01:55
illriginalafter i type  sudo cfdisk /dev/sda01:55
illriginali then hit new01:55
illriginali make it 1000mb01:55
illriginalthen it creates it to Linux01:55
illriginaldoes not give me the option to make it fat01:55
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manwithafaceDoes anyone know how to go about rebuilding initramfs?01:56
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illriginalwait01:56
rayluyou're tryinig to format a usb drive as fat?01:56
illriginali go to type01:56
illriginalyes01:56
illriginalfat01:56
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raylui dont understand why you don't do this with qtparted01:56
illriginalit's for my ps201:56
illriginalps2 only reads fat/fat1601:56
rayluright...i'm saying you should use qtparted01:57
illriginalheh... i think this is working now01:57
illriginal sudo cfdisk /dev/sda  <- that command01:57
illriginalso far it seems like it's partitioning it correctly with no errors01:57
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raylu making a 100mb fat partition shouldn't take long...01:58
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illriginalall i do now is just hit "write" correct?01:59
angasuleI'm getting an md5 failure when trying to go from edgy to feisty :/01:59
illriginaland it should write the partition table?01:59
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raylui've never used cfdisk; perhaps someone else knows02:00
rayluangasule, when checking the cd?02:00
angasuleraylu: no, using adept02:00
rayluso redownload the package(s)02:00
angasuleraylu: I've retried 3 or 4 times02:00
rayluo.002:00
angasuleraylu: I guess the cache is wrong? where do I delete it?02:01
rayluaptitude clean02:01
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mc__raph: ping?02:01
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illriginalugh i need to restart02:02
illriginalbrb02:02
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angasuleraylu: same md5 error02:07
illriginalyo ray?02:07
illriginalOk I got it to make the partition...02:07
illriginalthe only thing I need now, is to have permission to read/write02:08
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mokkanhas anybody here got klash working?02:09
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illriginalCan someone help me give my USB Drive Read/Write access please?!02:11
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petehow can i find out which version of kubuntu i am running?02:17
pete?02:18
manwithafacehate to repost the same thing, but does anyone know how I would rebuild initramfs with a tty "busybox shell" control issue?02:18
Mo0oSaHwhen you do man xyz in the terminal how do you get out of it02:19
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compilerwritermo0oSah type exit02:20
compilerwriteror close the window02:20
compilerwriteror do you mean how to quit the more invocation?02:20
boblenyHey, I have a question. Is there a way to compile C++ programs so that they can be used in linux?02:21
compilerwriteryes bobleny compile them from source with gcc I beleive.02:21
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boblenyOK. I'll look into it.02:22
angasulecompilerwriter, bobleny: use g++ , not gcc02:23
compilerwriterbobleny you may have to make certain you have all the various dev libraries from the repos to do it though.02:23
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compilerwriterThanks angasule for the correction on the compiler program.02:24
angasulecompilerwriter: you're welcome, I was born to nitpick02:24
mc__is kde-look.org down for you too?02:24
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_6StringKng_is there anyway to make firefox in linux like in windows where when you clikc in the address sbar it automatically highlights the url?02:24
compilerwriterAt least I was correct in principle angasule.02:25
angasulehmm, adept keeps failing with an md5 error when I try to upgrade to feisty02:26
petewhat utility can i use to format my thumb drive? right now it is useless...02:27
compilerwriterangasule will fdisk format a thumb drive?02:28
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angasulecompilerwriter: I have no idea02:28
angasuleI'd try qtparted02:28
compilerwriterpete the expert has spokent qtparted is your best bet.02:29
peteok ty02:29
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angasuleif I'm the expert we're so screwed ;(02:30
|lostbyte|lol02:30
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youbuntupete : one way to get K version is : Kmenu->help->Kubuntu System Documentation Index02:35
youbuntuexample: Kubuntu 7.04 System Documentation02:35
petethankyou02:35
compilerwritermc__ kde-look.org is down for me .02:35
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peteright now i am running kubuntu dapper, and I would like to upgrade to feisty.  can i just change the repos in adept and click on upgrade??02:36
manwithafacekde-look.org is no go02:36
noiesmo_!upgrade02:37
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)02:37
petety02:37
manwithaface!initramfs02:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:37
petehmm so i have to upgrade to edgy first.....02:37
compilerwriteror pete you could do a fresh install from iso image.02:37
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petei tried that a couple times with differant disks and differant iso downloads, it seems to freeze up on my machine.02:38
petei think my only option may be to upgrade off the internet :(02:38
rayluyou can't upgrade from dapper->feisty02:40
rayluyou have to get edgy first02:40
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mc__compilerwriter: thank you02:41
youbuntuwhere are downloaded apps stored?02:42
pete!upgrade02:42
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)02:42
raylui forget, youbuntu; dpkg-cache02:42
rayluer, wait a sec02:42
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youbuntuok and aother one: where are downloaded update stored? (security patches etc)02:43
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raylu /etc/apt/sources.list.d i think02:43
raylupatches should also bet .debs in the same place as the other downloaded apps02:44
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raylu*be02:44
youbuntuok thanks I'll look02:45
rayluwhy do you want them?02:45
rayluyou shouldn't ever have to deal with them manually02:45
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youbunturaylu : a couple of reasons - I want to know of I load a clean copy of kubuntu on a friends machine, if i can put on all the patches fom my machine to save long downloads02:48
tim24wow busy02:48
youbuntubasicly have there machine fully patched02:48
youbuntutheir02:48
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feastyhow can i search for installed packages?02:49
youbunturaylu : do u know if this can be done or is risky?02:49
compilerwriterYou are welcome mc__02:50
rayluit should be fine but02:50
rayluthere aren't many fesity upgrades out02:50
raylui don't see any risks here02:50
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compilerwriterfeasty open adept and uncheck everything  but installed in the filters.  Then you will be able to see everything you have installed.02:50
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tim24how do i get a server or channel list ???02:51
feastyhow do i do it on the command line?02:51
youbunturaylu : i guess it's more for added apps02:51
feastydoes dpkg not offer such a service?02:51
feastyor apt02:51
compilerwriterI would have to read the man page on them.  I do very little from command line that I don't have to feasty/02:52
feastyim just trying kubuntu out.  normally i use gentoo so im a command line whore :).  cheers anyway compilerwriter02:53
undiculouscould anyone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for getting beryl running and setting up genuinely transparent terminals with the ati fglrx driver?02:54
Sannefeasty: 'dpkg -l' lists your installed packages02:55
feastycheers Sanne02:55
Sanne:)02:55
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youbunturaylu : or any one: when packages are installed then installed. do they remain on the disk some where?02:56
Sannefeasty: also the manpages of dpkg, apt-get and apt-cache might be of interest to you, regarding packages.02:56
feastyundiculous, i think you can start bryl by typing beryl and passing the option --display with your X display session02:56
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feastySanne, managers?  gui?02:57
feastySanne,  or just the apps?02:57
youbuntuit can get messy if I try a few packages and then uninstall (if they remain on disk)02:57
david2__hmjm02:57
Sannefeasty: those are command line apps, since you asked for those ;)02:57
feastyyeah, ive been using them. i just knew how to install stuff though.  thanks again :)02:57
david2__how does linux see permissions linux to linux if you mount a server on a linux machine?02:58
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undiculousfeasty: what's my x display session?02:58
feasty'echo $DISPLAY' undiculous02:59
Sanneyoubuntu: the downloaded packages get saved to the package cache in /var/cache/apt/archives. How long they remain depends on configuration. Maybe you find a setting for that in adept, I know there is one in synaptic. You can clean this cache by typing: apt-get clean02:59
james#ubuntu on irc.freenode.net02:59
feastyi think you would pass it to beryl as beryl --display localhost$DISPLAY03:00
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feastyif not then try it without the localhost part03:00
youbuntuSanne : thanks v.much03:00
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Sannefeasty: I recommended the manpages because those apps provide also nice information about installed packages and such, in addition to installing.03:00
Sanneyoubuntu: you're welcome :)03:00
jamesI need help installing RealPlayer10 in FeistyFawn Ubuntu03:01
Zeelot3kcould anyone suggest me a good audio player app?03:01
david2__hold on xine works for me03:01
david2__and ...03:01
feastySanne, yeah im just browsing them now.03:01
undiculousfeasty: when it's checking for xcomposite extension, it fails and tells me there is none03:01
Sannefeasty: :)03:01
undiculousfeasty: what is a composite extension?03:01
david2__https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu for video03:01
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david2__add the repositories and shit works'03:02
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jamesdavid2, please dispense with the vulgarities03:02
david2__oops03:02
david2__vigin ears I forgot03:03
feastyundiculous, you need to add this to your Xorg.conf file:03:03
leonardo_hello guys! how do i configure keyboard on tty?03:03
feastySection "Extensions"03:03
feasty    Option "Composite" "Enable"03:03
feastyEndSection03:03
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n4zgulhello guys! how do i configure keyboard on tty?03:03
jamesthey're not virgin, I just don't think it's necessary03:03
compilerwriter!pastebin | feasty03:03
ubotufeasty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:03
feastycompilerwriter, yeah sorry03:04
david2__to each there own03:04
undiculousfeasty: it stiill seems to fail the xcomposite extension check. do i need to restart x?03:05
jamesIt makes the online experience dirty03:05
n4zgulhello guys! how do i configure keyboard on tty?03:05
feastyundiculous, yeah you will do03:05
compilerwriter!attitude | n4zgul03:06
ubotun4zgul: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:06
undiculousfeasty: alright, great. thanks :)03:06
feastyundiculous, did it work?03:06
jamesHow do I install Realplayer10 in Feisty Dawn?03:06
n4zgulsorry =[03:07
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jamesFeisty Fawn03:07
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compilerwritern4zgul there is no need to keep harping on a question that often.  If someone on at the time knows the answer they will help you.03:07
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raylujames, why do you want realplayer?03:12
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undiculousfeasty: i restarted my session and it got past the earlier point, but now I have a whole variety of other error messages03:16
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pete!upgrade03:16
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)03:16
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undiculousfeasty: it says extension XFree96-DRI is missing on display :0.0, it failis the check for non power of two texture support, it says glXBindTexImageEXT is missing, it fails to manage screen 0, and says that no manageable screens were found on display :0.003:18
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undiculousoh, hey, feasty isn't here. can anyone help me get beryl working with the ati fglrx driver?03:19
undiculousi'm trying to start it with beryl --display $DISPLAY, but it gives me these errors03:19
undiculousit says extension XFree96-DRI is missing on display :0.0, it failis the check for non power of two texture support, it says glXBindTexImageEXT is missing, it fails to manage screen 0, and says that no manageable screens were found on display :0.003:20
voidmageundiculous: tried buying a nvidia card?03:20
voidmage;P03:20
undiculousvoidmage: haha, i'd love to. feel free to send me more money :)03:21
voidmagewell anyways03:21
voidmagewhat card what's the exact error?03:21
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voidmageand what are you trying to do, beryl?03:21
undiculousit's i think radeon mobile x30003:21
undiculousyeah. in general, i just want genuinely transparent terminals03:21
voidmageare you using xgl?03:21
undiculousi don't know what xgl is03:22
voidmageyou have to use xgl with fglrx to use beryl03:22
voidmage!xgl03:22
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:22
voidmagei'll get a better link03:22
undiculousalright, thanks03:22
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voidmagehmm03:24
voidmagei think ubotu's link is good03:24
_6StringKng_when I login I get some error about a missing background image, could come help me fix this?03:24
voidmagei'm not really sure though03:24
voidmageask in #ubuntu-effects how to install xgl03:24
undiculousalright, great. thanks a lot03:25
_6StringKng_uh, anyone03:25
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manwithafaceis your bg missing?03:25
manwithafacedid it change locations before you rebooted?03:26
_6StringKng_apparently03:26
_6StringKng_no03:26
manwithafaceodd03:26
manwithafacewhere was it?03:26
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_6StringKng_I think what hapened is I tried to change th efingerprint splash screen and dicked something up03:26
manwithafaceoh, i tried that once03:26
manwithafacebad idea03:26
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_6StringKng_yeah03:26
_6StringKng_noticed, lol03:26
_6StringKng_I would re-install but was hoping someone could help me03:27
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manwithafacejust use a different splash03:27
raylucould you give us the whole error?03:27
_6StringKng_tried, still gives me the error, lol03:27
manwithafacehm03:27
_6StringKng_uh, well I'm downloading something, almost, I restart once its done and get the whole error message03:28
_6StringKng_but said something about missing background.jpg03:28
_6StringKng_almost done*03:28
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ghost__hrm03:30
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blackvdwhats the name of the plugins i need to install for my browser? i.e. flash, thanks!03:31
rayluwhat browser?03:31
blackvdfirefox03:31
|lostbyte|blackvd, simply view a page with flash and install flash as the firefox tells you too.03:33
_6StringKng_flashplugin-nonfree I thhink03:33
_6StringKng_use adept03:33
blackvdcool thanks03:33
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|lostbyte|yes, thats the other way ^^03:33
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blackvdthat's the way i"m looking for, but that wasn't it. any other clues? I tried searching flash but can't find anything03:35
manwithafacedoes anyone know how to rebuild initramfs from a nonbooting system?03:35
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|lostbyte|try any flash site.03:37
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jonesalguem do brasil???03:41
gmcfonsecaEu instalei o Kubuntu no meu notebook. Como seleciono o teclado us_acentos .. ainda nao vi essa opo.03:41
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jonesolha perto do seu relogio e v o pradrao que esta...03:42
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jonesprovavelmente deve ser o padrao us ki tem uma bandeirinha do EUA03:43
Jucato!br | jones03:43
ubotujones: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.03:43
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cpk1bah I cant get the binary nvidia drivers to work03:44
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blackvdgotta say I'm starting to dislike kubuntu, whats the deal with flash not working in firefox? says you have to use some jerry rig method to get it working in 64 bit, which i tried and doesnt work. However when  was running sabayon 64 it worked fine? so what the hell? how do i get a working flash plugin?03:46
cpk1Currently there is NO Adobe flash implementation available for 64-bit processors.03:48
manwithafacei for one blame hardware manufacturers03:48
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blackvdso how am i suppose to view flash?03:48
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gmcfonsecaEu instalei o Kubuntu no meu notebook. Como seleciono o teclado us_acentos .. ainda nao vi essa opo.03:49
cpk1blackvd: should be pretty easy if you follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava03:49
gmcfonsecacomo seto o meu teclado notebook no ubuntu..03:49
gmcfonsecaEu quer us acentos, e nao sei odn ealterar03:49
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Jucato_gmcfonseca: English only please03:50
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blackvdcpk1: thanks for the link,I'll try it.03:50
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jakehi everybody.. what the keyboard shortcut for beryl to do the cube desktop03:57
n4zguljake:make sure that the configurations of xgl are fine and hold on ctrl+alt and then press arrow buttons for move from a desk to another in cube form03:58
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jakexgl? i mean beryl03:58
jakehow can you do a cube just like you have a virtual desktop wallpaper.. because my beryl is only doing the cube04:00
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timmayhey every body04:03
compilerwriterJucato Good morrow to you.04:04
Jucatohey compilerwriter04:04
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matt__hi Jake, Ctrl+Alt + arrow left would spin the cube04:04
compilerwriterAre we having fun yet.04:04
timmayhey is there a way to add more desktops than just the default 2?04:04
stdintimmay: yeah, just right click the applet and choose "Configure Desktops"04:05
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stdinyou can have up to 2004:05
timmayman i feel like an idiot LOL04:06
jakeno imean not only spining the cube.. please look at this link...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM&mode=related&search=04:06
timmaykept right-clicking in the wrong spot04:06
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compilerwriterJucato which config file must one edit in order make it so that one must possess a keyfile to login remotely?  I had it set up once and then did a fresh install and now can't remeber what I need to do to disable password remote login.04:08
stdinjake: you mean a skydome ?04:08
stdinjake: the image behind the cube?04:08
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Jucatocompilerwriter: dunno sorry04:09
jake<matt__> please watch this vid.. this exactly what im talking about04:09
stdinin ssh?04:09
jakeyes yes yes the skydome04:09
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jakedo i have to browse for more pictures?04:11
jakeplease guys tech me how to do  the skydome04:11
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_6StringKng_trying to install this patch for ET but I can't copy the files due to root access or something04:12
stdinjake: just download them, google for it: http://tinyurl.com/3yl3ez and set it up in beryl settings under "Desktop -> Desktop Cube -> Skydome"04:13
jakethanks04:13
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bader_hello all.. Can someone help me out with a couple of things?04:13
bader_how do i get my ATI drivers running? I installed them using Adept Manager..04:14
nixternalbader_: just go ahead and ask, if someone can help they will :)04:14
nixternal!ati04:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:14
bader_Thanks nixternal04:14
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nixternalyou can give that a look over...I know there are a couple of command line things you have to do iirc04:14
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_6StringKng_how do I change ownership of a file so I can copy into another dir04:15
raylu!chown04:15
bader_I've already looked at that though.  Do ATI drivers need the restricted drivers manager?04:15
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal04:15
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rayluwhat in the world...04:15
nixternalbader_: they should build dep on it04:15
stdinbader_: no, that's ubuntu only04:15
rayluthat has nothing to do with chown04:15
raylu_6StringKng_, use chown04:15
_6StringKng_getting on it, just not too familiar with it, lol04:16
nixternalsudo chown username:group file04:16
stdinbader_: they need restricted-modules tho, that page gives full info04:16
bader_ah..  I see.04:16
bader_*sigh* so confusing04:16
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stdinbader_: just follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae304:17
stdinthe edgy instructions tho04:17
stdinas it's not very kubuntu friendly04:18
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_6StringKng_thanks nixternal04:20
nixternalyup04:20
_6StringKng_I knew I had to use chown, just didn't really know how to use it, lmao04:20
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rayluman chown04:20
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aubaddestdin: lol, link?04:23
nixternalhaha04:23
rayluwhat's wrong with vim?04:23
nixternalstdin: I leave those binary pages alone04:23
stdinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI04:23
ionstormheh04:23
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aubadderaylu: Nothing, just it's kind of intimidating to convertees.04:23
raylui suppose. but nano is only slightly less04:24
stdinit says: "After making all those modifications, your X server might not want to start again. Don't worry, you can still modify xorg.conf using vim"04:24
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bader_wait, so I'm supposed to go with the Edgy installation though im using Kubuntu --> Feisty?04:28
rayluof the ati driver? it should be mostly if not totally the same04:28
youbuntuhow is lock-session automated? (eg auto lock after 5 min inactivity)04:29
bader_well, the feisty section says to dl it of the ATI site rather than use the manager.04:29
bader_wouldnt that have a different version / setup?04:29
rayluhopefully not...04:29
rayluoh. wait04:29
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raylui'd suggest doing it from the package manager04:30
bader_how do you paste text into the module?04:30
rayluwhat module?04:30
stdinbader_: unless you want to have to set it up again after the kernel is updated, and every time after that, use the packages04:30
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bader_sorry i mean, terminal04:30
rayluterminal?04:30
raylushift+insert04:30
rayluunless you want to configure it to be ctrl+v04:30
bader_lol i wouldnt know how to.04:30
ErtainI can't seem to mount a DVD-RW drive.  The disc has some data on it, but it won't read.  I'm on Feisty.04:31
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raylusettings > configure shortcut04:31
bader_lol ty04:32
aubaddeAny good >video< players built with QT using libxine as its backend?04:32
raylubut ctrl+* isn't recommended in the console04:32
rayluaubadde, you could try wikipedia-ing xine04:32
aubaddemm04:33
bader_so i did "sudo depmod -a" is supposed to "Generate a new set of module dependencies so the fglrx driver starts properly" .. Nothing happened in the terrminal ( no output)  any way to check that it  actually worked?04:33
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mo0osahis it possible to minimize konqueror to tray without using other utils?04:34
raylui'm not 100% sure, but all depmod does is04:34
raylucheck dependencies, so if nothing happens, all the better04:34
raylumo0osah, that doesn't make sense; why would you want to minimize konqueror?04:35
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raylu*to the tray04:35
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mo0osahraylu, so that it stays open and I dont have to open a new instance everytime04:35
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mo0osahjust like frequenty used apps in tray04:36
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raylumo0osah, there is a way to pre-load konqueror so that it loads faster04:37
mo0osahraylu how?04:37
rayluit's _somewhere_ in the settings. im looking for i04:37
raylut04:37
stdinbader_: if there was no output, then it worked04:37
rayluthe last tab, oddly04:38
mo0osahraylu: actually mine loads fast anyway04:38
raylusettings > performance04:38
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bader_argh..04:40
bader_okay.. when i did the installation manually, i got the right driver..04:40
bader_when i redid it following the steps on the site,04:40
bader_i lost the driver, and got the generic one04:40
bader_! this sucks04:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about this sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:41
bader_lol?04:41
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rayluLOL04:41
bader_and i accidentally updated Adpept manager! i dont know how to use the search anymore04:41
bader_:/04:41
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rayluum...i'm not sure how to explain how to use the search, but you can always use the command line04:42
rayluaptitude search [name] 04:42
stdinor apt-cache search [thing to search for] 04:43
bader_well okay, im just trying to find the ATI driver in Adept manager, how do i go about doing that? I Type "ATI driver" and get no hitss!04:43
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stdinbader_: search for "fglrx"04:44
stdinor just search for "ATI"04:45
bader_but "ati" gives me a hell of a large load of results..04:45
rayluoh...yeah, package names don't contain spaces. as such, the only hits you'll return are from the description04:45
bader_I don't know whats what.04:45
rayluso search fglrx04:45
bader_trying it out04:45
bader_now*04:45
rayluunless you want that other driver who's name i can't remember04:46
bader_i found it! .. Wait, whats the Kernel source?  shouldnt that be installed too?04:46
stdinno04:46
stdinyou don't need/want the source04:47
raylulies. everyone wants the source04:47
stdinonly if you want to compile the kernel04:47
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bader_great, its installed.04:47
bader_:)04:48
fabiensalut04:48
bader_what the.. my driver isnt changing when i check it in the Terminal!04:48
bader_argh!04:48
bader_ /cry04:48
bader_does this need a restart or something?04:48
stdinedit xorg.conf to use the driver04:49
bader_t0 use it?04:49
rayluwasn't there some command that did this for you?04:49
rayluor is that the other ati driver again?04:49
compilerwritersldkfj04:49
raylu!fr | fabien04:49
ubotufabien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:49
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TheDebuggerHe just said "salut"....04:50
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stdinyou have to install the package to do it, or just make sure that under the "Device" section, the Driver is set to "Driver "fglrx" "04:50
bader_I'm not sure.  I did fglrxinfo and got "Mesa" or something like that, which the site mentions is incorrect.  Funny thing is thats not what I saw earlier.04:50
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bader_the device section? the device section of whaT? How do i get there?04:51
stdinkdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:52
stdinchange ' Driver "ati" ' or ' Driver "radeon" ' to ' Driver "fglrx" '04:53
rayluyeah, but then he didn't say anything. and i just said !fr :P04:53
david2_ah sudo vim  /etc/X11/xorg.conf works too04:53
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raylu*vesa, i believe04:53
stdingood got don't use vim :p04:53
bader_Section "Device"04:53
bader_Identifier  "ATI Technologies Inc R430 [Radeon X800 XL]  (PCIe)"04:53
bader_Driver      "ati"04:53
bader_BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"04:53
bader_EndSection04:53
bader_isnt that fine!?04:53
bader_that IS my graphics card..04:54
stdinbader_: no, change ' Driver "ati" ' to ' Driver "fglrx" '04:54
bader_ah04:54
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bader_is that all?04:54
stdinyeah, you may have to turn Composit off too04:55
stdinadd this to the end of the file:04:55
stdinSection "Extensions"04:55
stdin        Option      "Composite" "Disable"04:55
stdinEndSection04:55
bader_There is no Extenstions section.04:56
stdinyeah, add it04:56
stdinto the end of the file04:56
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bader_Done.04:57
bader_so is the info command supposed to return the correct thing now?04:57
bader_Cuz its still not :/04:58
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stdinno, you need to restart X now04:58
dr_willisyou must restart X after ediing that file.04:58
bader_oh04:58
dr_willisthats a 'common' thing with linux configs. :)04:58
bader_i see.04:58
bader_Thanks!04:58
dr_willisthey get ran at program startup.04:58
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bader_I'll brb then.04:58
dr_willisget read at startup i mean.04:58
bader_Wait, so how do i restart X?  There a command? Or I just restart the PC?04:58
stdinlogout and press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace04:59
bader_Thanks. Brb04:59
Aloneawhat is the name of the default video driver? the envy thing didn't work on the nvidia and I was trying to reverse the xorg.conf. currently set to vesa, but I don't think that is the one that it was at before04:59
stdin"nv" for nvidia05:00
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rayluyou should keep a backup of a known, working xorg.conf05:00
bader_back!05:00
bader_OMG! My resolution went UBER!05:00
raylu...high?05:00
bader_yes!  1024 was getting annoying!05:01
bader_lol05:01
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raylui'm in 1024 :(05:01
bader_lo0l.05:01
rayluit's annoying because i'm used to 128005:01
bader_lol dude i solved that with 15 bucks :P05:01
rayluso it feels like...a part of me is gone :'(05:01
bader_got me an old CRT monitor.05:01
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bader_why're you on 1024?05:01
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bader_aah05:01
stdinheh, my desktop uses 1600x120005:01
bader_>.< You can always attach an external moniter! :P05:02
rayluluckily, i have 4 desktops, so its all good :P05:02
bader_lol monitor**05:02
bader_haha05:02
bader_i see.05:02
hitmanWilly1680x1050 :)05:02
bader_ooh ooh05:02
raylujust not as good as having one giant desktop, though05:02
stdinmy laptop is on 1280x102405:02
bader_i wanna know if the drivers running now.. what do i do? fxglrinfo?05:02
raylufglrxinfo05:02
bader_(Im guessing it is though since my rez is awsome:P)05:02
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hitmanWillylsmod | grep fglrx works too05:03
bader_Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".05:03
bader_display: :0.0  screen: 005:03
bader_OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org05:03
bader_OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect05:03
bader_OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)05:03
bader_*sigh*05:03
bader_Do I slit my wrists now, or in the morning?05:03
raylumesa is the gl thing. that's correct05:04
bader_wha? but the site says otherwise..05:04
rayluyou may be getting it confused with vesa. but if iirc, it was ati that used to be in your xorg.conf05:04
rayluwhat site?05:04
bader_Says I should have "ATI.." showing up there right?05:04
bader_mmmmmmm one sec05:04
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bader_damnit, i lost it.  The one i was given earlier05:06
bader_!ati05:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:06
bader_oh..05:06
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bader_lol there it is05:06
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rayluoh...i see05:06
stdinbader_: run: "sudo aticonfig --initial"  and "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv"05:06
Zeelothello again, question -> I have an onboard sound and a sound card..last night I played a video and worked fine....but now it only plays the audio if I use the onboard sound05:06
Zeelotanyone know if this is just a setting and where I can find it?05:07
bader_Found fglrx primary device section05:07
bader_Nothing to do, terminating05:07
bader_on the first command05:07
bader_is that right?05:07
stdinyeah05:07
bader_Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.05:08
bader_Warning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.05:08
bader_Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:08
bader_Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-105:08
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bader_whaa? lol..05:08
stdinthat's ok too05:08
bader_But I'm still on the mesa thing :'(05:08
bader_site says im supposed to get something like :05:09
bader_$ fglrxinfo05:09
bader_display: :0.0  screen: 005:09
bader_OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.05:09
bader_OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9700 Generic05:09
bader_OpenGL version string: 2.0.5755 (8.24.8)05:09
stdinbader_: look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d01742cec183112be090e459b74129606e258f7905:09
stdinbader_: do what it says, then restart X again after05:09
bader_alright05:09
bader_should i start at the begginning?05:09
stdinno05:09
bader_oh.05:10
stdinyou've already done it05:10
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bader_k05:10
rayluZeelot, try system settings > sound > hardware > select the audio device05:10
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Zeelothello raylu =P 1 sec05:10
bader_mkdir --> cannot make the directory..05:10
bader_lol05:10
bader_needs a sudo?05:10
stdinyeah, for both commands05:11
dr_willislogical eh? :)05:11
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Zeelotraylu:  my device isnt listed? I dont know what any of those do (Open Sound System)05:12
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stdin!sound05:13
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:13
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K-Ryanhey guys05:14
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bader_LOL05:15
rayluZeelot, neither do i :P05:15
bader_DONE05:15
jakeguys what keyboard shortcut or mouse shortcut do you use in beryl to zoom the desktop? thanks05:15
bader_isplay: :0.0  screen: 005:15
bader_OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.05:15
bader_OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 XL05:15
bader_OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)05:15
raylujake, it's customizable. the zoom plugin is under accessibility05:16
K-RyanNot sure about zooming in...05:16
K-Ryanraylu how about default?05:16
rayluyou win, bader_!05:16
jakeok thankz05:16
bader_HAH! thank you guys!!05:16
rayluK=kate by any chance05:16
bader_I dont win yet though.05:16
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BWolf_hello05:16
bader_Beryl still needs to get its butt on here.05:16
K-RyanHi there BWolf05:16
rayluK-Ryan, i don't know what the default is =\05:16
Corpismonster@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /home/monster/UT2004 /usr/local/games/05:16
Corpiscp: omitting directory `/home/monster/UT2004'05:16
K-RyanJust figured I'd ask, it's alright raylu05:16
Corpiswhy isnt it transfering?05:16
fignewCorpis: use cp -r05:17
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BWolf_have an issue my  wireless will not work in kubuntu. it will only work if i switch from gnome connect to the net then log out and switch to kde05:17
fignewyou need to recursively copy the folder :)05:17
rayluCorpis, sounds like you should be using make install instead05:17
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rayluBWolf_, is the knetworkmanager running?05:17
BWolf_yah05:17
jakeguys what does the <Super>n means in the shortcut?05:17
fignewraylu: lol, UT2004 doesn't have make ;)05:18
rayluoh. i suppose it'd be kinda hard to get it working for you while you're on that computer...you don't happen to have another one, do you?05:18
fignewSuper: windows key05:18
Corpis-r didnt work05:18
raylujake, super = windows key05:18
bader_So I've got my accellerated driver on (i do, dont i?) what do I need to get beryl on here?05:18
fignewCorpis: it's capital -R05:18
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bader_talking to me raylu?05:18
fignewgrrrrr05:18
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K-RyanHas anyone setup DoomRL by any chance? I'm having trouble with it.05:18
rayluno bader_05:18
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bader_lol okay05:18
fignewCorpis: it's capital -R05:18
raylubader_, sudo aptitude install beryl05:18
bader_thats it@!?05:18
bader_WOOHOO!!05:19
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K-RyanWell you have to install beryl and what is it05:19
bader_lol05:19
K-Ryanemerald something05:19
K-RyanI'm unsure of the package name05:19
jake<raylu> oops im using ibm thinkpad whats the equivalent of windows key in ibm?05:19
BWolf_any idea why?05:19
raylui think it installs that automatically05:19
bader_lol Raylu.. :P I've seen it.  I've actually got another PC that's working beryl as we speek05:20
raylujake, i don't think there is one05:20
Corpisk yea05:20
K-RyanThe help file said to install em both, so I don't think it does.05:20
Corpisthat doesnt work either05:20
Corpislol05:20
stdindamned server updates are killing me05:20
bader_only its on UBUNTU and the Nvidia driver was fairly simple, for some reason.05:20
raylui've never had to install both, though05:20
K-RyanYeah the Nvidia driver was rather easy to install wasn't it?05:20
jake<raylu> can i change the value?05:20
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bader_yep05:20
raylujake, of course. just double click05:20
K-RyanI've installed both an Ati Radeon and my Nvidia GeForce05:20
K-RyanTOTAL difference.05:20
rayluoh. that's not a server split05:21
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nixternal!netsplit05:21
bader_haha yep, same.. just got done with Nvidia :P05:21
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:21
stdinbader_: installing beryl is easy "sudo apt-get install beryl-kubuntu emerald-themes" and your're done05:21
rayluno, that's them upgrading 4 servers05:21
K-RyanBut yeah, install the beryl package and the emerald theme package then run beryl05:21
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K-Ryanyeah, that, emerald-themes05:21
raylu[22:20:55]  [wallops]   ok, about 1600 users in this next round, 2 servers.05:21
hitmanWillydoes anyone know why kde-look.org is down?05:21
raylubecause it is not up.05:22
K-Ryanhehehe05:22
hitmanWilly:P05:22
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K-RyanHas anyone installed DoomRL before?05:22
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K-RyanCould someone help me out if I linked?05:22
Corpisthere a command to open konqueror with sudo rights?05:22
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Zeelotstdin: the problem isn't drivers, as the sound was working last night, the problem is now it seems to be using my onboard device instead of the SBLIVE device to play sounds05:22
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Mayokohey I just swiched from windows and Im wondering if there is a decent program like newsbin (newsgroup program) that can do ssl?05:22
hitmanWillyCorpis: kdesu konqueror05:22
rayluCorpis, why would you sudo konqueror?05:22
rayluoh. with su rights? yes, kdesu05:23
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stdinCorpis: kdesu konqueror, NOT sudo05:23
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Corpisso I can fuckin caste paste this shit in there05:23
Corpisk05:23
raylucaste o.005:23
PriceChild!ohmy | Corpis05:23
ubotuCorpis: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:23
Corpispaste05:23
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bader_umm, am i in trouble if i had beryl installed before i did all my driver stuff?05:23
Corpis=(05:23
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fignewbader_: no05:23
rayluMayoko, akregator05:23
rayluthough I don't know about ssl05:23
bader_but it wont run.. it loads then dissapears..05:23
rayluor newgroup, actually :P05:23
K-Ryanno bader_ it's fine05:24
stdinbader_: no, just make sure both those packages are installed anyway, just makes things work better with kubuntu05:24
fignewbader_: assuming you didn't do anything weird ;)05:24
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Mayokolol05:24
K-Ryanbader_ are you trying to run it through the terminal?05:24
rayluMayoko, you should also try that kontact stuff (in the place of quicklaunch by default)05:24
bader_well my graphics driver's fine i think05:24
bader_nope05:24
K-RyanTry that05:24
stdinbader_: ooh, with ATI, you need XGL05:24
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K-RyanType in beryl-manager05:24
stdin!xgl05:24
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:24
youbuntulock05:24
rayluit would make more sense to ask for the output of beryl, K-Ryan05:24
bader_isnt XGL built into beryl?05:25
stdinno05:25
bader_<< confused.05:25
K-RyanOh, my bad05:25
bader_lol05:25
youbuntuoops :)05:25
stdinwhy would it be05:25
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bader_i dont know lol i thought it just was..05:25
stdinXGL is bloated, and only needed for ati :p05:25
bader_ah.05:25
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bader_So how do i get that?05:25
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Zeelotstdin: know what else could be the problem?05:25
stdinbader_: http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez05:26
K-RyanXGL was a pain for me05:26
K-RyanI tried to do it withing my first week of Kubuntu...05:26
bader_so wait, is what your saying that ATI wont use beryl at all?05:26
stdinZeelot: on one of those pages (don't quite remember) you can tell the sound system what card to use by default05:26
K-RyanOh it will work05:26
K-RyanIt's just to get your graphics acceleration to work, you need XGL.05:27
MayokoI googled akregator and it looks like a rss reader, im looking for a newsgroup reader =/05:27
stdinZeelot: or you can see if you can disable the onboard card in the BIOS05:27
bader_lol im so confused. xgl = compiz?05:27
stdinbader_: no05:27
K-RyanNo05:27
rayluMayoko, it _might_ do both. it comes with kubuntu05:27
K-Ryan!XGL05:27
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:27
K-RyanSeperate, see?05:27
K-Ryan*Separate05:27
stdinbader_: XGL lets you _use_ things like compiz and beryl05:27
bader_i see, i think :P05:27
bader_i see i see05:28
stdinbader_: *if you have ati05:28
rayluMayoko, also try kontact05:28
bader_mmm05:28
Corpisomitting directory05:28
Corpiswhat exactly does that mean?05:28
K-RyanExcluding05:29
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stdinCorpis: to copy a directory do: cp -R /path/to/dir /place/to/copy/to05:29
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bader_deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main | do i need to do this?05:30
stdinno05:30
K-RyanDon't worry about compiz at all05:30
stdinberyl is in the feisty repos05:30
K-RyanYou need XGL05:30
stdinbader_: installing beryl is easy "sudo apt-get install beryl-kubuntu emerald-themes" and your're done05:30
K-RyanAnd what version of Kubuntu are you running?05:30
stdinyou still need XGL tho05:30
rayluCorpis, cp will take multiple directories; sometimes it will choose to omit one for various reasons, though i can't imagine why05:31
rayluCorpis, try the -v flag. hopefully, it's verbose05:31
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bader_lol i understand that but im consfused as that how to obtain XGL still05:31
K-RyanHold on05:31
stdinbader_: http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez05:31
rayludoens't advanced beryl options > force xgl do it?05:31
raylu*doesn't?05:32
stdinyou still need to install xgl05:32
bader_I wouldn't know.05:32
bader_lol.05:32
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K-Ryanstdin to be honest05:32
Corpisok05:32
K-RyanI installed XGL once before, and I can't really make light of this page, so I wouldn't expect bader_ to.05:32
Corpisnot sure05:33
youbuntu!lock05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
Corpisbut it wokrd fine uder root session05:33
Corpisthx ;)05:33
stdinhmm, I should have looked at it, it's horrible05:33
rayluo.0 wtf.05:33
Corpisworked*05:33
K-RyanYeah...05:33
rayluyoubuntu, can't do anything with apt/adept?05:33
K-RyanI mean it has what you need to do, except it's not user friendly.05:33
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bader_lol i've been scrolling up and down it.. and almost every mention of XGL is related to compiz..05:34
stdinbader_: follow the installation and Kubuntu parts of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl05:34
Zeelotfound the solution ^_^ the onboard was set as default device for some reason so ran 'sudo asoundconf list' to get list of the devices and 'sudo asoundconf set-default-card [name] ' to change it to the SB Live card05:34
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stdinbader_: compiz and beryl are mostly the same, and soon will be one thing (again)05:34
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K-RyanWhat does compiz do that's different?05:35
youbunturaylu : like what?05:35
K-RyanI had never heard of it until recently.05:35
bader_<stdin>  i've heard of that.. I just saw that my installation of beryl on UBUNTU had a "compiz" section in it.. so i thought it was the right one to go with :P05:35
stdinnothing, it's just more "stable". ie, unchanging05:35
youbuntu!session05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
K-RyanAh05:36
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pete!upgrade05:36
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)05:36
stdinberyl and compiz were once the same package, then split and are now merging again05:36
stdinit's on open-source soap opera05:36
dr_willislike bacteria do. :) or is that Amoebas?05:37
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K-RyanNeither merge back together05:37
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hitmanWillyTHAT'S MY CUBE!!! *slap* :)05:37
K-RyanAlthough they do divide05:37
bader_Should I set up XGL using "Method A", which will "start Xgl as an option at the login screen"?05:39
K-RyanProbably05:39
bader_or Method C: Make Xgl Your Standard Display Server for Kubuntu Users?05:39
athonyhow do i know what version of ubuntu i'm running?05:40
hitmanWillybader_: i wouldn't reccomend C simply because, what if it crashes?05:40
stdin!version | athony05:40
athonyah ok05:40
ubotuathony: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell05:40
bader_hitmanWilly  --> ty, wise man :P05:40
stdinathony: read what ubotu said05:40
bader_I'll go with A~05:40
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bader_lol... I'm asked to do "gksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh".. but I get command not found ..05:42
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athonyubotu:05:42
athonyerror: Failed dependencies:05:42
athony        /bin/sh is needed by wine-0.9.2-1fc4winehq.i68605:42
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draikI'm feeling Kubuntu Edgy a bit sluggish. What do you all recommend to clean out some things?05:42
athonyarrg!05:42
athonyubotu: not working05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about not working - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
K-Ryanathony, ubotu is an information bot05:42
draikAnything similar/equivalent to defrag, crap cleaner, etc?05:42
K-RyanNot an actual person =P05:43
athonyk05:43
stdinbader_: replace "gksudo gedit" with "kdesu kate"05:43
bader_arigato gusaimas!05:43
athonyok it doesn't work in root mode05:43
matt__Hi, I noticed that a lot of people (myself included) did not realise that ubotu is not a person05:43
K-Ryan!ubotu05:44
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:44
athonymatt: :)05:44
stdindraik: there is no need to "drfrag" on ext305:44
matt__maybe the name of ubotu should be changed?05:44
stdinwhy?05:44
K-Ryan"uBOTu" ?05:44
Lectuswhat about cleaning temp files, etc? like a crap cleaner for linux?05:44
draikstdin: Right. I remember that. But I mean something to the effect of making Kubuntu run smoother. Everything seems sluggish05:44
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K-RyanIsn't there a command to remove packages that aren't required?05:45
stdinsudo apt-get autoremove ?05:45
dr_willisLectus,   scripts in rc.local do wonders. :)05:45
K-RyanYeah, that05:45
K-RyanYou can try that Lectus05:45
dr_willisnot sure if ubuntu defaults to cleaning out /tmp on a boot or not.05:45
K-RyanBut that's more of a space saver05:45
K-RyanNot so much as a speed improvement.05:45
rayluisn't the point or removing packages that aren't required saving space?05:45
stdindr_willis: I just mount a tempfs on /tmp anyway05:46
K-RyanWell he's looking to get rid of temporary files.05:46
K-RyanSame deal05:46
raylupackages that are installed but not running won't make anything but menus load faster05:46
bader_hmm i created the file stdin, but im not sure what to put in it..05:46
dr_williswindows has people trained where they think they need 'fancy' tools to make up for Defiencies in the os. :)05:46
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draikstdin: WHOA! 27MB freed05:46
bader_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl gives options for ATI + intel05:46
rayludr_willis, windows has people trained where they think they need a gui :P05:46
draikI didn't think I had that much crud05:46
bader_but not ATI +AMD05:46
K-RyanUhhh05:46
K-Ryan281MB will be freed...05:46
rayluif you want to get rid of unneccesary packages, you could install the server version :D05:46
bader_should i not be worring about this?05:46
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dr_willisraylu,  blasphmy!05:47
dr_willisL(05:47
stdinbader_: follow the "ATI and Intel (using KDE)" part05:47
j1ttershas anyone successfully gotten dual head to work with a matrox g550?05:47
stdinbader_: the + means "and/or" as intel do a graphics chip05:47
dr_willisive seen people try the 'install server route' and they always seem to have other issues.. (not sure if fiesty fixed any of those issues or not) :)05:47
bader_thanks05:48
ubuntuok i get a freeze error at my grub loading screen.... I have re-installed grub and it didnt fix it. Does anyone have any suggestions05:48
kalorin`j1tter I use dual head on all my machines05:48
kalorin`I have an x700 and a quadra 44005:48
bader_and i just paste thier snipplet? no need to add anything?05:48
kalorin`no matrox05:48
kalorin`sorry05:48
ubuntuno i dont get an error sorry it just freezes05:48
j1ttersdoesnt look that hard but this card is just killing me05:48
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K-Ryanubuntu grub needs to be at the beginning of the HDD05:48
j1ttersmergedfb didnt work. just made the second monitor black.05:48
stdin!dualhead05:48
K-RyanOn your boot drive, that's how it works for me.05:48
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama05:48
dr_willisubuntu,  you are seeing the text based menu? or just some gfx ?05:49
K-RyanYou can always try that in case you don't have it set that way.05:49
kalorin`I ended up using the downloadable drivers from ati and nvidia respectively05:49
j1ttersyeh been there. guess i'll try xinerama05:49
kalorin`seem to work pretty well. The only tricky part is building the kernel modules05:49
ubuntudr_willis: i dont get a menu, I cant get past grub loading stage 1.505:49
bader_Now we'll add an option to the gnome login manager so that we can choose to log into our new Xgl-gnome session. Create an Xsession file like so:05:49
bader_gksudo gedit /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop05:49
bader_thats not for me right?05:49
bader_<< KDE?05:49
dr_willisubuntu,  ahh, thats a clue at least. :)05:49
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kalorin`bader_:  likely not05:50
ubuntudr_willis: tried to reinstall grub but it didnt help05:50
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dr_willisthats windows thinking. :) im guessing grub is looking for the stage2 files and not finding them on the proper hd. or its looking on the wrong place.05:50
BWolf_i want to reformat and start over with kubuntu. what fiel do i need?05:50
youbuntuanyone seen the problem - start up kubuntu without touching any key and resolution goes to 640*800 (have to reset x sever to get normal res)05:50
stdinbader_: replace "gksudo gedit" with "kdesu kate"05:50
ubuntudr_willis: any suggestions?05:51
K-RyanBWolf_ you don't need anything if I'm not mistaken.05:51
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athonywhy do i get this05:51
athonyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:51
athonyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:51
K-RyanJust reinstall with a Live CD05:51
stdin!aptfix05:51
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:51
dr_willisubuntu,  well.. reading up on the grub docs and learning what all is in its config file and how it works.. is always a good idea.05:51
stdin!aptfix | athony05:51
ubotuathony: please see above05:51
athonyok05:51
dr_willisubuntu,  also google for that specific issue where it cant get past stage 1.505:51
ubuntudr_willis: k ill look into it05:52
dr_willisubuntu,  how many hd's you got?05:52
ubuntujsut 105:52
dr_willisGrub is one of those tools that is well worth learning all about.05:52
dr_willisubuntu,  you got windows on that hd also?05:52
BWolf_or how can i delete gnome from and ubuntu and just keep kubuntu05:52
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ubuntudr_willis: yes i have windows and Kubuntu05:52
athonystdin: command not found. are u a bot too?05:52
stdinBWolf_: are you on either of edgy or feisty?05:52
BWolf_feisty05:53
stdinathony: I'm not a bot :p05:53
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athonyk05:53
stdinathony: read what ubuntu said...05:53
stdin!aptfix05:53
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:53
athonyroot@lands007:/home/lands/Desktop# !aptfix05:53
athonyaptfix05:53
athony-su: aptfix: command not found05:53
athonyroot@lands007:/home/lands/Desktop#05:53
stdinBWolf_: you can try "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop"05:53
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athonystn : read above05:54
stdinathony: like I said, read what the bot said05:54
athony*stdin05:54
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dr_willisubuntu,  I always keep liniux on its own seperate hd. :) but thats not always doable heh. How did you install ubuntu the first time? live cd? alternative cd?05:54
Keenquick simple question, it says command not found, when i type this: "sudo ./VirtualBox_1.3.8_Linux_x86a.run install /opt/innotek/VirtualBox"05:54
BWolf_it says ubuntu-desktop not installed, so not removed05:54
Keeneven if its there05:54
Keenwhen i type ls05:54
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dr_willisKeen,  is it 'executable' ?05:54
stdinathony: when someone in there starts a message with ! it's a command for the bot (ubotu) to say somthing05:54
Keenim not sure05:55
dr_willischmod +x whatever.run05:55
Keenim just following instructions from the website05:55
dr_willis that means most likely that NO its not. :)05:55
ubuntudr_willis: i used live cd, I have not had any problems until i tried to install QEMU05:55
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stdinBWolf_: then try "sudo apt-get autoremove"05:55
dr_willisthey may of missed a step.05:55
bader_woo0hooo done.. So how do i know if XGL is working, after I've logged in as an XGL session?05:55
Keenwell it does say its binary when i try to open it05:55
dr_willisubuntu,  you installed qemu and it messed with grub?05:55
Keenif that means anything05:55
dr_willisKeen,  that means nothing. :)05:55
Keen=P05:55
ubuntudr_willis: yes it was the last thing i did. I was following a how-to guide05:55
dr_willisKeen,  chmod +x it .. that makes it an executable command05:55
BWolf_0 upgraded 0 installed 0 to remove 0 to upgrade05:55
Keenok05:55
Keeni'll try that =)05:56
stdinbader_: if you login to an xgl session, and you see graphics, then it's working05:56
dr_willisubuntu,  you isntalled some OS under qemu?05:56
ubuntudr_willis: no never got that far05:56
adam_i'm having a bizarre issue: i'm using a sblive value, with the wave surround channel turned up so i can get surround sound. if i mute the master channel, only the front speakers go off. the rears keep playing05:56
stdinBWolf_: then gnome packages have already been removed05:56
athonythanks bot05:56
bader_stdin : see graphics as in a normal desktop right ?  not effects..05:56
stdinBWolf_: if not, then you'll have to do it the "manual" way05:56
BWolf_but i can still use it as a way to log in05:56
dr_willisubuntu,  check your grubs menu.lst file i guess and see what it looks like. also check for any backup copies of it.05:56
BWolf_whats the manual way05:56
stdinbader_: yeah05:56
Keenyay thanks05:56
Keenaww it doesnt support amd64 D=05:57
bader_stdin: so now i just install beryl?05:57
stdinBWolf_: run "sudo apt-get remove [list of packages] "05:57
bader_stdin: do i need to be logged into the xgl session to install it?05:57
K-Ryanberyl-kubuntu and emerald-themes05:57
K-RyanNo you don't05:57
ubuntudr_willis: ok. is there a specific way it should look?05:57
stdinbader_: no, just to run it05:57
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K-RyanTo run it though, you will05:57
BWolf_same comes up stdin05:57
ubuntudr_willis: also where do i find it05:57
dr_willisubuntu,  depends on your system. I NOTICE looking at mine that its using the hard drive 'UUID' type labels for selecting what partions are what.. thats possibly messed up.05:58
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stdin!purekde | BWolf_05:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about purekde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:58
dr_willis - /boot/grub/menu.lst05:58
stdinarrg05:58
stdinBWolf_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde05:58
BWolf_event not found05:58
BWolf_alright stdin well see what that does05:59
stdinBWolf_: it'll just uninstall all the default gnome stuff06:00
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BWolf_so what will thaty leave me with06:01
K-RyanWoo, solved my problem on my own ;)06:01
stdinBWolf_: KDE06:01
makuseruanyone know whats up with www.kde-look.org ?06:02
stdinBWolf_: just make sure the packages "ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop" are installed after06:02
matt__makuseru the website is down06:02
BWolf_so let me get this straight kde and gnome are like two different "OS" that only certain programs can run in each? sorry newbie question06:02
stdinno06:02
stdinyou can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa06:02
BWolf_kde and gnome are just different GUI for ubuntu06:03
hitmanWillyyou just need the gtk/qt libs for them06:03
stdinsort of, yeah06:03
fignewBWolf_: all applications can run under both.06:03
stdinubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu is (ubuntu - gnome) + kde06:03
BWolf_when i installed kde i had come programs from gnome that wouldnt start in kde06:03
fignewthough some are more optimized for the one or the other06:03
makuserumatt_: really? didnt notice06:04
fignewBWolf_: what application?06:04
david2_You can start a nfs client from the kubuntu cd right?06:04
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BWolf_xchat would just close in kde06:04
stdinI've use x-chat in kde before06:05
stdintho i prefer konversation06:05
matt__makuseru, I noticed that they were just talking about kde-apps on #kde06:05
makuserui was being scarcastic06:05
BWolf_i wish i could just start all over with a fresh copy of kubuntu but it took forever to configure my wireless card06:06
fignewBWolf_: try running xchat from the terminal06:07
fignewand see if it says anything06:07
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K-RyanHey guys I'm having a Konsole problem06:08
K-RyanI just got this roguelike game setup, well i finally figured out how to get it started06:08
dr_willisHmm under fiesty - my wireless card was a breeze. :)06:08
dr_williswhich amazed me06:09
K-RyanAnd everytime I get to the second level it freezes, there are plenty of screen changes before it06:09
arkanabarHow do I add a printer shared from a windows XP computer?06:09
K-RyanAny ideas on what it might be?06:09
BWolf_dr_willis my wireless card was a PAIN06:09
unix_infideldr_willis: linux wireless really got a push after people figured out wireless cracking with nix software was SUPER easy.06:09
unix_infidelhence the reasno for more and more drivers and driver wrappers being developed.06:09
dr_willisarkanabar,  the  controlcenter --> perpherals -> printer  should walk you through it.06:09
stdinarkanabar: use System Settings -> Printers06:09
BWolf_brb06:10
dr_willisarkanabar,  but to be honest. :) i find the gnome cups manager interface easier to use then kde's heh heh06:10
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stdineww, gnome06:10
raylukubuntu uses cups too06:10
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K-RyanNever mind, problem solved again =)06:11
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bader_hey umm.. im in an XGL session06:11
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K-RyanWhat's wrong?06:11
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bader_and I've got emerald and beryl installed06:11
fignew_K-Ryan: you could try a different terminal emulator, but beyond that, it seems like a bug in the game06:12
dr_willissomthing just seems odd with how complex kde's printer config interface is.06:12
bader_but for some reason i cant get to beryl from the start menu06:12
K-Ryanfignew, it was something wrong with the music. Go figure06:12
bader_oh wait.. lol06:12
stdinheh, "start menu"06:12
dr_willisand it always wants to scan the 127.0.0.0 network for networked printers. :) oddly06:12
fignew_bader_: how long has it been installed?06:12
K-RyanIt doesn't play so I wouldn't of expected that, but that's probably why it was conflicting.06:12
bader_yes im a windows noob.06:12
bader_lol I started beryl settings manager..06:12
stdinbader_: just call it the KMenu :)06:12
bader_How do i actibate it? :P06:12
fignew_K-Ryan: you can run it artsdsp gamename06:13
bader_lol thanks Stdin06:13
fignew_as a command :)06:13
K-RyanWhat?06:13
fignew_from the terminal06:13
K-RyanI'll try that after I die06:13
K-Ryan=P06:13
fignew_no artsd?06:13
K-RyanWell I got the game to work06:13
stdinbader_: right click the beryl icon, select Window manager -> beryl06:14
K-RyanSo it's not a priority, but I'll try it06:14
fignew_so sound is working?06:14
arkanabarok, used system settings - printers - scan, got this error:  "Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED"06:14
K-RyanWell that's the thing06:14
bader_It doesnt pop up in my task bar..06:14
K-RyanThe sounds  work06:14
K-RyanThe background music doesn't06:14
Zeelothi guys could you help me with this, I get this error any time I try to compile something from source, no matter what it is -> error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.06:14
bader_:P i dont get a minimized icon..06:14
fignew_K-Ryan: nevermind then ;)06:14
K-Ryan=P06:14
dr_willisinstall the C compiler packages. :)06:15
fignew_could be that the BG music is MIDI06:15
dr_willis!info build-essential06:15
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB06:15
dr_willis!build-essential06:15
fignew_and there's no midi installed... that's only a misguided theory though ;)06:15
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:15
Zeelotthanks06:15
bader_hmm06:15
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K-RyanNo, that makes perfect sense actually.06:16
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K-RyanThis is a roguelike version of Doom, with the original music06:16
K-RyanSo how would I go about getting MIDI files to work?06:16
dr_willisthers midi players ive seen/used ages ago. :)06:16
stdin!midi06:16
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo06:17
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fignew_arkanabar: you get it yet?06:17
bader_Don't I need beryl-manager?06:17
athonyhelp running wine -06:18
athonyApplication tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.06:18
athonyMake sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.06:18
bader_I have beryl-kubuntu installed, but beryl-manager isnt.06:18
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stdinbader_: that should be installed, hmm, try installing it then06:18
bader_lol roger.06:18
dr_willisathony,  what user ran it?06:18
athonyroot06:18
raylu[23:14:22]  <arkanabar> ok, used system settings - printers - scan, got this error:  "Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED"06:18
K-RyanWell nobody "needs" Beryl, but it's just so incredible.06:18
athony@dr_willis06:18
dr_willisathony,  did you use sudo, gksu, or the kde equilivnet?06:18
arkanabarfignew, like raylu said.06:18
K-RyanI sat there moving the windows around for a solid 2 straight minutes when I first got it.06:19
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athonydr_willis: will get back06:19
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raylui moved them around and immediatly looked for a way to turn that floppy window crap off06:19
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bader_what the..06:19
brian_ough oh guys now i have a problem06:19
dr_willisraylu,  did ya enable the flaming 'window closing' feature?06:19
bader_the manager loads for about 20 seconds, then disappears still!06:19
rayluarkanabar, is connecting the printer to the linux box an option? that's usually easier to set up (I think)06:19
rayluyeah...but those got distracting after a while. it was cool at first, though06:19
raylubader_, it tends to do that. i just keep going at it :P06:20
bader_LOL seriously?06:20
raylu=\ i hear it actually works better under gnome06:20
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bader_omg it worked!06:20
brian_i uninstalled ubuntu/gnome now my wireless wont work :(06:20
bader_ya i think it does.. cuz this doesnt happen there06:20
raylubrian_, is your network WEP secured?06:20
athonydr_willis: it looks ok now. ty06:20
stdinbader_: try it again, sometimes it doesn't start for me06:20
brian_yes it is06:20
arkanabarraylu, I'm sure it is, but my wife would not appreciate it.  Especially since I'm shut down a lot more often than she is.06:20
Feisty_jeffhey, I have a drive mounted, but it's not showing anything in it06:20
Feisty_jeffand suggestions?06:20
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raylubrian_, installing kwifimanager may help. try left-clicking on the network name (if any) in knetworkmanager06:21
Hirvinenraylu, brian_: WEP is NOT secure!06:21
rayluWEP is secure enough for most people...06:21
stdinmore than an open network anyway06:21
arkanabar!wep06:21
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:21
K-RyanI installed freepats, but the game still froze when it tried to play the MIDI music06:21
fignew_true06:21
bader_oksy06:21
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Rictoohow do I change an env variable again?06:21
hitmanWillyplus, mac filtering is an outstanding way to deter the occasional wardriver06:21
RictooI keep forgetting06:22
bader_okay* its open. and i see the icon.. but its still not actually doing any effects.06:22
bader_niether can i select themes via the Emerald themer06:22
stdinRictoo: variable=value06:22
stdinRictoo: or export variable=valie06:22
Hirvinenstdin, raylu: I refuse to call anything that only protects against accidental spying security.06:22
Feisty_jeff?06:22
brian_i have knetworkmanager now06:22
brian_it gets to 57% activation stage: IP configuration started and just hangs there06:22
raylubader_, select window manager06:22
bader_I did, its on Beryl06:22
Rictoothanks, stdin06:23
brian_after that just asks for the key again06:23
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fignew_brian_: you have the right key?06:23
raylubrian_, try kwifimanager or those docs06:23
brian_yes i do06:23
raylui had this problem too...don't remember what i did to fix it06:23
brian_where can i get kwifimanager06:23
bader_:')06:23
bader_:'(06:23
rayluapt/adept06:23
Ichi am trying to set a static IP address with knetworkmanager, but every time i change it, it reverts to .12406:23
Ichmy lan is otherwise functional06:24
HirvinenA wireless connection is secure only if it uses WPA or VPN.06:24
rayluoh, that's right. brian_, I used manual configuaration and specified the SSID and key there06:24
brian_how do i know if its ASCII or hex?06:25
bader_Its not working! :'(06:25
stdinHirvinen: WPA isn't to difficult to crack06:25
stdinbrian_: it's probably hex06:25
Feisty_jeffanybody have some spare time?06:26
stdinbader_: try switching back to kwin, close beryl-manager, and open it again in konsole, it will print some info06:26
fignew_Lol, we're all in IRC ;)06:26
Feisty_jefftouche06:26
Ichfignew_: it's irc06:26
bader_whats Kwin?06:26
bader_:P06:26
IchFeisty_jeff*, not fignew_06:26
Hirvinenstdin: WPA-PSK can be cracked in a short time?06:26
stdinbader_: the KDE Window Manager06:26
bader_and how do i  open it in konsole?06:26
Rictoostdin, did you try to right click the beryl icon and choose "Change window manager>Beryl"06:26
stdinHirvinen: as long as you get enough packets06:26
Rictoo?06:27
stdinRictoo: ask bader_06:27
bader_Yes, I did. No good.06:27
Feisty_jeffok, so my problem is this -  I have a SATA drive mounted... it shows up as /media/sdb106:27
HirvinenHmm, now that you mention it, I might recall something about that.06:27
Feisty_jeffbut it's not showing that there are any files06:27
Feisty_jeffI know that there are files in there though06:27
Hirvinenstdin: But WPA-PSK 2 is still unbroken?06:27
stdinnot totally06:28
stdinit's not impossible06:28
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stdinmore difficult, yes, impossible, no06:28
bader_So how do i run the manager in konsole?06:28
stdinbader_: open konsole and type in: beryl-manager06:28
Ichwhere does kubuntu store network settings?06:29
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Hirvinenstdin: How long does it approximately take on a modern computer?06:29
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stdinHirvinen: it depends on how many packets you get, that's how you can get the key06:29
stdinHirvinen: but for psk 2, it's more complicated than that. so I don't know06:30
Feisty_jeffook06:30
stdinbut it can take a while06:30
Feisty_jeffmaybe it would be better to come back another time?06:30
bader_No composite extension06:30
bader_beryl: No composite extension06:30
stdinahh06:30
bader_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16906:30
bader_  Major opcode:  14806:30
bader_  Minor opcode:  306:30
bader_  Resource id:  0x006:30
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bader_Failed to open device06:31
bader_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16906:31
bader_  Major opcode:  14806:31
bader_  Minor opcode:  306:31
bader_  Resource id:  0x006:31
bader_Failed to open device06:31
fignew_Feisty_jeff: What's the Filesystem?06:31
stdinbader_: ignore the "X Error" parts06:31
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Feisty_jefffignew_: ntfs, sadly06:31
fernandoque tal pete06:31
bader_hmm06:31
stdinbader_: open up your xorg.conf again (kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf)06:31
bader_ahuh?06:31
Feisty_jefffignew_: I'm trying to move my windows files over and totally ditch microsod entirely06:31
petehow do i know if my root filesystem is on an md array??06:32
fignew_Feisty_jeff: /msg me what the command mount says06:32
stdinbader_: find the "Extensions" secton06:32
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petetryin to install feisty right now and i dont want to mess it up06:32
bader_Section "Extensions"06:32
bader_Option    "Composite" "Disable"06:32
bader_EndSection06:32
bader_its what i had put in earlier.06:32
stdinubotu: and change it to have: Option "Composite" "true"06:32
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stdinbader_: some cards need "Disable" some need "true"06:33
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bader_aaah06:33
stdinbader_: blame ATI :p06:33
fignewhuh? meh! :P06:33
bader_lol!06:33
bader_k ill log into Xgl again06:34
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bader_baaah06:35
bader_still no dice, it seems06:36
stdinsee what it says in konsole again, and post it to pastebin this time06:36
stdin!pastebin06:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:36
stdinor use http://stdin.pastebin.us/ :)06:37
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Rictoo!ubuntu06:37
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome06:37
Rictoo!subuntu06:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about subuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:38
bader_im getting a bunch of "can't execute beryl-xgl: Success"06:38
stdinpost it to pastebin for me06:38
brian_kwifimanager does nothing to help me06:38
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brian_manual config doesnt either06:38
robotgeekbrian_: use knetworkmanager instead06:38
unix_infidelanyone here running feisty on a mac?06:39
brian_knetworkmanager wont connect either06:39
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brian_it gets to 57% then stops06:39
robotgeekunix_infidel: i was, then i crashed my hdd :)06:39
raylubrian_, have you specified your wep key in kwifimanage ror knm's manual config?06:39
brian_?06:40
raylu*or06:40
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bader_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21518/  (this is in the KDE rather than xgl env.)06:40
brian_kwifimanage wont let me do nething06:40
rayluuse kwifimanager's config thingy06:40
rayluspecify your SSID and key06:40
MarcC_can anybody tell me why kded is using 90% CPU?06:40
brian_just shows availible connections and what networks it sees06:40
raylubrian_, Settings > Configuration editor06:41
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stdinbader_: hmm, doing my research here, it seems you need to add another package source and edit a file to get the xgl version of beryl06:41
brian_settings?06:41
raylubrian_, the menu at the top of kwm06:42
fignewMarcC_: who knows :P06:42
bader_hmmm .. thanks alot stdin.. ill keep working on it tomorrow.   thanks alot guys.. this community is unbelievable.06:42
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fignewMarcC_: actually, it's looking for updates in some folder06:42
MarcC_is it OK to sigterm kded?06:42
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fignewMarcC_: Amarok is usu. the culprit06:42
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stdinbader_ I got a link for you to bookmark and look at06:42
bader_sweet!06:42
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stdinbader_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL06:43
stdinbader_: that should help you out06:43
MarcC_fignew: thanks, but Amarok isn't running at the moment06:43
bader_thanks mate06:43
bader_take care!06:43
bader_oooh quick Q.06:43
fignewMarcC_: konq filebrowser then06:43
brian_KWM doesnt find a place for wep key06:43
fignewit's something checking if files are changing06:43
bader_how do i get window as my default (or first on my bootloader's list) rather than linux?06:43
fignewbader_: why would you want that?06:44
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stdinbader_: you need to edit a file (/boot/grub/menu.lst) and change the "default 0" to the number for windows06:44
shrotaculari need help ! when i open adept installer it says: the apt database couldnot be opened. what should i do ?06:44
stdinbader_: eg, if windows is the 3rd option, then change it to read "default 2"06:45
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bader_fignew: cuz my gaming needs are on windows :P06:45
stdin!aptfix | shrotacular06:45
ubotushrotacular: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:45
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brian_KWM isnt going nething06:47
arkanabarwheeee!!!  I was able to set up my printer in GNOME.06:47
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MrBougocongratz!06:48
bader_how come i cant edit the menu.lst file?06:49
stdinuse kdesu06:50
MrBougodoes the city you choose for the timezone have any influence to the locale stuff?06:50
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stdinbader_: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst06:50
stdinMrBougo: no, not really06:50
MrBougook :)06:50
MrBougooh maybe with the default reps server, right?06:51
stdinMrBougo: we know somepeople may live in one place and want the language to be different :)06:51
bader_thanks alot man! i love you!!06:51
MrBougoyup :)06:51
bader_good night ppl06:51
MrBougobye!06:51
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MrBougostdin, does every rep from every country have the same packages in all languages?06:51
stdinMrBougo: yes06:52
MrBougoi mean, is it "safe" for me to connect my rep06:52
MrBougooh ok :)06:52
brian_what am i supposed to do in KWM?06:52
MrBougothank you06:52
MrBougothat was actually a stupid question06:52
MrBougobrb06:52
stdinMrBougo: they all just sync with the main ubuntu repos06:52
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youbuntu!antivirus06:54
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus06:54
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youbuntu!linuxvirus06:55
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2106:55
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K-RyanAnyone have the cmatrix package?06:59
K-RyanFun stuff07:00
Bojemoin07:00
MrBougobrb again :p07:00
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somerandomstuffheh, "somerandomnick" is owned by someone else07:00
thirdeyehi , am still getting the APT error when i start Adept Installer07:01
K-Ryan!aptfix | thirdeye07:01
ubotuthirdeye: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:01
K-RyanThat'll do it07:01
thirdeyei tried it07:01
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K-RyanYou're sure you typed it in exactly like that?07:01
K-RyanI'm not calling you clumsy or anything, I just know that I've done it once or twice...07:02
thirdeyeok ill try again, it should fix it without restarting , right ?07:02
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K-RyanCorrect07:02
K-RyanYou can actually copy and paste it07:02
thirdeyeok07:02
K-RyanAny luck?07:03
thirdeyecopying07:03
K-RyanAh07:03
thirdeyenuthing happened07:03
thirdeyeshould i run adept ?07:03
K-RyanYes =P07:03
thirdeyesame error07:03
K-RyanOh there's an error, it isn't just "not starting"07:04
K-RyanWhat's the error say?07:04
K-RyanThe KDE crash thing pop up?07:04
stdintry "sudo apt-get update" and see if you see the error there07:04
thirdeyethe APT database could not open ! this may be caused07:04
K-RyanTry stdin's suggestion.07:05
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thirdeyeE: Type 'ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ubuntuftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ubuntu' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list07:05
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K-RyanWell there's the problem07:05
K-RyanWell, "a" problem07:05
stdinyou need to fix your sources.list07:05
thirdeye:x07:05
thirdeyehow , i just installed kubuntu07:05
K-RyanI'll leave it to you stdin, I don't want to mess it up more =)07:05
thirdeyei know nuthing07:06
K-RyanChances are that's why it's like that =P07:06
thirdeyei know :(07:06
K-RyanIt's okay, we all had to start somewhere07:06
stdinthirdeye: you didn't use automatix or easyubuntu did you ?07:06
thirdeyeno07:06
stdingood, makes it easier :p07:06
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thirdeyei think i tried to install vlc media player07:06
stdinthirdeye: why did you add that source then?07:06
stdin!info vlc07:07
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB07:07
thirdeyeto install it07:07
stdinit's in the ubuntu repositories07:07
thirdeyeyes07:07
franz_[newbie question] : how do i update my subversion to 1.4? ..doing "apt-get install subversion" installed 1.3.2 :)07:07
K-RyanSo you wouldn't need to add a source.07:07
thirdeyeam sorry i didnt mean to :(07:07
K-RyanHey, it's no big deal, we're here to help.07:08
thirdeyehow can i fix it ?07:08
stdinfranz_: you can't yet, unless you try to compile it or find a debian package (tho that can be dangerous)07:08
K-RyanAlright let's see07:08
K-Ryansudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:08
stdinthirdeye: open the sources file "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"07:08
stdinthirdeye: then remove that line07:09
K-Ryanerr, kdesu07:09
stdinK-Ryan: no, not sudo :p07:09
franz_stdin, what would be dangerous? compiling or finding a debian package, or both? :)07:09
stdindon't make me call the bot :p07:09
K-Ryan=(07:09
K-RyanI really don't know the difference....07:09
stdinfranz_: compiling isn't that dangerous, but installing an unofficial package can be07:09
K-RyanIt's more of a "use this for this, and that for that" with no meaning behind it, to me anyway.07:09
stdin!kdesu | K-Ryan07:09
ubotuK-Ryan: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo07:09
K-RyanOh07:10
K-RyanThanks =)07:10
K-RyanI hope thirdeye got it right.07:10
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stdingotta love those "all knowing infobots" :)07:10
franz_stdin, what if it's the official subversion 1.4 package ( http://packages.debian.org/subversion ) ? :)07:10
eightyfiveonlinealright its bwolf im back07:10
stdinfranz_: that's debian, not ubuntu07:10
eightyfiveonlinefor some reason chat wont let me use the same nick twice if i get kicked07:10
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K-Ryaneightyfiveonline Are you kicked or are you losing connection?07:11
K-RyanBecause if it's an administrative kick, that might be why.07:11
rawkersolid! magenge07:11
stdinfranz_: feisty has the version you want tho07:11
franz_stdin: having problems upgrading to feisty :(07:11
rawkerHow art thou all?07:12
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franz_stdin, do you know how to fix this ~> http://rafb.net/p/hInEIF48.html ? :)07:12
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franz_i see it in the forums but i see no actual fix07:12
eightyfiveonlinelosing connection from trying to figure out my wifi connection07:12
franz_or workaround :)07:12
thirdeyehello, am back, my system just restarted by it self, omg this is not going well07:12
stdinfranz_: it's to do with the server, only fix is to either wait, or use a different server07:12
K-RyanAre the other names still in the chat?07:12
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eightyfiveonlineyah07:13
K-Ryanthirdeye, what was the last thing you did before it restarted?07:13
franz_stdin, by server, do you mean ubuntu's repo server?07:13
K-RyanThat's strange, you can try to have an op disconnect them.07:13
stdinfranz_: yeah, tho it isn't actually run by ubuntu07:13
thirdeyei typed that line in konsole07:13
K-Ryansudo or kdesu?07:13
thirdeyekdesu07:13
K-RyanOkay then it's not my fault =)07:13
K-Ryanyou typed it in without caps right?07:14
thirdeyei dont remember07:14
thirdeyemaybe07:14
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K-Ryankdesu kate /etc/apt/source.list07:14
K-Ryanexactly like that07:14
franz_stdin, hmmm..so what's the best approach to get subversion 1.4.2 in my kubuntu? upgrade to fiesty? compile? ..or ? :)07:14
K-RyanA window should pop up.07:15
stdinfranz_: upgrade is the best and reccommended way07:15
K-Ryanfranz_ unless you have reason not to, upgrade.07:15
eightyfiveonlinethere it goes, my old nick hah07:15
Ober0ne07:15
K-RyanThere you go07:15
stdinfranz_: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a07:15
franz_K-Ryan, i want to...it's just that i can't find a workaround to that "Failed to fetch..." problem :)07:16
Ober0nefignew?07:16
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arkanabarthirdeye ... if you can handle a no-mouse, keyboard only text editor, you can try sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list07:16
K-RyanStrange07:16
K-Ryanarkanabar, he's having trouble as it is =P07:16
K-RyanTrying to keep it simple.07:17
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stdinnano is quite simple :)07:17
K-Ryanthirdeye did you get that window to pop up? The sources.list?07:17
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franz_stdin, i think i already tried that...but ok, i'll try it again :)07:17
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arkanabark-ryan, I know.  I have trouble with gksu and kdesu both, and I have to use nano for any root privileged text editing.07:17
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stdinfranz_: if that doesn't work, you can try the "Network upgrade for Ubuntu servers (recommended)" part07:18
K-Ryan^X07:18
arkanabarnano is easier for me to deal with than vi07:18
franz_stdin, ok. thaks :)07:18
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K-RyanYeah I just opened nano, I don't really get it07:18
K-RyanNor do I feel like experimenting with it considering I opened my sources.list....07:19
K-RyanBut I can see how it's well suited to those who prefer everything right there.07:19
arkanabar^X means same as ctrl-X, brings up a quit dialog at the bottom of the buffer; ^G opens help.07:19
K-RyanOh, I didn't understand the ^07:19
arkanabarI only use it b/c neither kdesu nor gksu works for me.07:19
arkanabarI learned that way back on a DEC-10, writing JCL batch files07:20
K-RyanMmm07:20
stdin^ has always meant Ctrl07:20
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stdineven in windows :p07:20
K-Ryan<- Was mainly a Windows user07:20
K-Ryan?07:20
K-RyanI've never seen that used like that to be honest, ever.07:21
arkanabarwell, in DOS, stdin....07:21
brian_okay no one breathe my wifi card is working it might cause it to crash07:21
K-RyanBut I never dealt with DOS either...07:21
stdinarkanabar: well win95 runs on DOS :p07:21
K-Ryan!winamp07:21
arkanabarer, so to speak, if you want to call that running.07:22
ubotuwinamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.07:22
franz_stdin, both network upgrade for ubuntu and kubuntu did not work..i got the same problem07:22
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MrBougoarkanabar, some people told me that nano is sucky :p07:22
arkanabar!amarok | K-Ryan07:22
ubotuK-Ryan: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok07:22
K-RyanI should of figured that "win"07:22
K-RyanI have Amarok07:22
MrBougobut it's indeed easier07:22
K-RyanI was just curious07:22
stdinfranz_: what error is it?07:22
franz_stdin, this one ~> http://rafb.net/p/hInEIF48.html07:22
K-Ryanfranz_ you can always order a cd07:23
stdinfranz_: change your sources then07:23
arkanabarrecently heard that Windows is a 32 bit shell for a 16 bit system written for an 8 bit processor on a 4 bit bus by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.07:23
stdinfranz_: try just taking off the "ph." or change to another close mirror07:23
K-RyanHeheh07:23
franz_K-Ryan, k, i'll try that as well :)07:23
K-RyanI mean it won't show up for a little while, but it's always a fall back plan.07:24
franz_stdin: hhmm...k, i'll try changing my sources to something other than .ph :)07:24
stdin^ about 3-6 weeks for a CD :P07:24
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K-RyanYeah...07:24
arkanabarMrBougo, I would use gedit or kate if gksu or kdesu worked for me, but they never, ever do.  They bug up, and whatever file I was trying to modify instead winds up reverting to default.07:24
stdinbut, hey, it's FREE :)07:24
K-RyanI was just going to say07:24
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franz_stdin, yep....but it's free :) hehe :D07:24
K-RyanIt's worth it because it's free.07:24
K-RyanI mean come on, I'm in NY.07:25
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K-RyanThey shipped me CDs from the Netherlands, how awesome is that?07:25
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stdinstill took 3 weeks here, and I'm in the UK07:25
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K-RyanMine takes that extra 2 weeks =P07:26
asadhello07:26
K-RyanHowdy07:26
stdinbut I did order about a week after it was out, so there was a backlog07:26
K-RyanAh, still 3 weeks isn't bad.07:26
asaddoes anyone know if there are any known audio bugs with feisty ?07:26
K-RyanWhy? Having trouble?07:26
asadyeah07:26
stdinprobally a few07:26
franz_stdin, btw, if i change my mirror to hk. , ...would i end up having packages in mandarin? :) hehehe :D07:26
asadI get scratching sounds07:26
stdin!sound07:26
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:26
asadI increasted the buffer and it improved a lot but if there is a lot of base I still get the problem07:27
stdinfranz_: no, they all have the same exact packages07:27
franz_stdin, i see. thanks :)07:27
asadsweet07:27
arkanabarI just ordered feisty CDs ... last time I tried to upgrade, it broke nautilus.07:27
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K-Ryanasad, I have the same problem07:27
K-RyanI usually lowered the system volume and turned my speakers up a little bit more.07:27
K-RyanThat "helped"07:27
stdinnautilus is a gnome app, it was broke from the point it was coded :p07:28
asadyeah, turning up the volume definitly helps mask it07:28
K-RyanNo no07:28
K-RyanTurn down the system volume07:29
arkanabaryah, but at that point, the install also resized the login screen and I lost my options menu for over a week and couldn't choose session type.07:29
K-RyanThen turn up your speaker volume. Worked for me07:29
asadturn up the volume on the speakers :) yeah I understand07:29
K-RyanOkay, it looked like you replied in a sarcastic manner. Never can tell on the internet...07:29
asadoh, no I wasn't being sarcastic07:29
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asadappreciate the help07:29
K-RyanI gathered that =P07:30
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K-RyanNo problem07:30
Zeelothello again! cant seem to play any media (mp3 or avi or anything) on amarok or kaffeine...any ideas? they work fine on XMMS and MPlayer07:30
K-Ryan!codecs07:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:30
MrBougo!ubotu07:30
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:30
asadvlc works great for me, as opposed to kaffeine07:30
asadmaybe because vlc has a lot of codecs built in ?07:30
stdinyeah07:31
K-RyanKaffeine works alright for me, but I like Amarok.07:31
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K-RyanBut with those you need the codec package.07:31
intelikeywhich is right ?    case blah blah ; -h,--help); ;; ;esac     or  case blah blah ; -h|--help); ;; ;esac       or will they both work ?07:31
ZeelotK-Ryan: i have all the codecs07:31
Zeelotthe ones I need anyways07:32
K-RyanHrmm07:32
stdinintelikey: the | one07:32
K-RyanI dunno...07:32
ZeelotI get some error about no decoder found07:32
stdinintelikey: | = "or" in case07:32
Zeelotbut...they are there as mplayer is using them07:33
K-RyanDo you mind using XMMS and MPlayer?07:33
asad!input method07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about input method - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:33
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asadhmm07:33
stdinZeelot: you have libxine-extracodecs ?07:33
K-RyanHe said he has the codecs he needs, so I assumed he did.07:33
Zeelotleme check07:33
stdinand mplayer doesn't use xine07:33
ZeelotI should07:33
Zeelotyea07:34
unclemikeaudio cds are acting wierd on this machine. amarok wont play em and loads them to "cdda:/4"  and clicking the audio cd icon just opens konqueror07:34
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K-Ryanunclemike when konqueror opens up, are the audio files displayed?07:35
unclemikeyeah, and a folder called Flac and Mp3 and a bunch of other wierd stuff07:35
K-RyanHave you looked inside them?07:35
unclemikethey are shown as was files07:35
unclemike*wav* files07:36
unclemikeyeah its got the songs names, but with different extensions07:36
K-RyanHmm07:36
K-RyanYou have the extra codecs installed?07:36
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K-Ryanlibxine-extracodecs07:36
unclemikemp3 in the Mp3 folder, Cda folder, Information, Full CD, Ogg Vorbis07:37
unclemikethose are the folders int the audio cd,  and this is an old cd not enhanced.  this hgappens for every cd I have07:37
unclemikeyeah I have a feeling Its from some crap automatix installed07:37
K-RyanI'm unfamiliar with that kind of issue, perhaps someone else can help.07:38
unclemikeyou could be rigth07:38
K-RyanSorry to sound like tech support =P07:38
K-RyanYou might want to try this in your terminal07:38
K-Ryansudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:38
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K-RyanIf the problem was missing codecs that will solve your problem.07:38
unclemikehaha.  sorry to come in here with the tired "I srewed something up, help me"07:38
unclemikehaha07:38
K-RyanNo biggie, I enjoy helping people out.07:39
unix_infidelanyone here used the fiesty live cd + ntfs-clone to backup ~10-15 gigs?"07:39
unix_infideli'm curious about how much time it takes to JUST create a ntfs-clone backup.07:39
unix_infidelno compression.07:39
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unclemikeK-Ryan:  im thinking the problem is *too many* codecs.  automatix did not tell me what it was installing07:41
K-RyanI don't think you can have too many.07:41
PerseidHello. I have XP, Vista and Linux installed. Vista and XP boot fine from the Vista bootloader but Linux doesn't boot anymore. I'm using the boot DVD to get in but I can't figure out how to fix GRUB.07:41
K-RyanIt's one codec per file type as far as I know.07:41
unclemikeK-Ryan:  I set this up for my uncle (if you cant tell)07:41
K-RyanMmm, alright07:42
unclemikePerseid: did you install vista *after you installed Linux?07:42
PerseidYes07:42
K-RyanAny luck with the libxine-extracodecs?07:42
K-RyanPerseid that's your problem07:42
K-RyanThe Vista boot loader overwrote the Grub boot loader.07:42
unclemikeYeah, Windows does not play nice.07:42
unclemikeyou have to reinstall grub07:42
PerseidI know.07:42
nixternalgotta love MS...never install MS after Linux, it rewrites the MBR purposely...evil bastages ;)07:42
K-RyanSo it leaves your computer with only the option of booting Windows07:42
tmbgmy pornview (v 0.2pre1-7) segfaults in a similar manner to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345100 but this bug was supposed to be fixed in 0.2pre1-6?07:43
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K-RyanOkay then, you need to install grub.07:43
K-Ryan!grub07:43
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:43
K-RyanHeheh07:43
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nixternalnotice how Linux (a majority of the distros) play nice and even include MS in the loader (lilo or grub), granted they toss it at the bottom where it belongs, but they still play nice ;)07:43
felzixshould Xorg be taking up 300mB of memory?07:43
K-RyanOh that reminds me.07:43
K-RyanI have so many different Ubuntu versions listed in Grub it's ridiculous.07:44
K-RyanGranted it puts Windows really far down where it deserves to be.07:44
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K-RyanBut it's ridiculous. I think I'm up to 9, how can I remove the older ones that I don't need?07:44
tmbgfelzix, depends. what window manager or desktop environment are you using? some like kde try to use up memory in order to run faster07:44
felzixkde07:44
felzixsince I only have 512 ram, this may be a problem...07:45
unclemikeK-Ryan: libxine-extracodecs was is installed.  this is a fresh kubuntu feisty install and all the codecs are set up. I just think automatix bogged it up with a bunch of crap.  It installed a tons of uneeded crap07:45
felzixcombined with amarok, I have about 70mb left to work with07:45
K-RyanThat might be it but I can't be sure as I didn't use Automatix.07:45
K-RyanKeep asking around though, someone is bound to be able to help.07:46
elyonunclemike: That is why Ubuntu strongly recommends AGAINST using Automatix.07:46
unclemikeyes, I can see taht now07:46
MrBougois there any way to check if a package is installed?07:46
MrBougowith the console07:46
unclemikeIts nice for google earth and some stuff, but mesing with codecs...07:46
tmbgMrBougo, you can check with apt-get.07:46
elyonMrBougo: Try typing "which [package name] " and hit enter07:46
MrBougooh thank you :)07:47
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elyonMrBougo: If it returns a location, then it is installed ;)07:47
MrBougoima try both :p07:47
MrBougookay :)07:47
tmbgerrr apt-cache07:47
MrBougooh07:47
tmbgapt-cache showpkg $whatever07:48
stdinMrBougo: or just do "dpkg -l | grep package"07:48
K-RyanAnyone know how I can remove some of the ubuntu boot options from the grub menu?07:49
K-RyanI have 9 of them.07:49
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elyonK-Ryan: I'm assuming it is displaying all the different linux kernel versions?07:49
PerseidOK. I want to make sure I don't nuke my Vista bootloader. find /boot/grub/stage1 says (hd2,0). If I say root and setup (hd2,0) that is the linux partition, right? I have lots of drives on this system and it's hard to tell which is which.07:49
K-RyanProbably07:49
tmbgor apt-cache pkgnames | grep $whatever07:49
franz_stdin, K-Ryan, looks like one of the forums posts was correct...you have a better chance of upgrading to fiesty with a slower connection :)07:49
tmbgso many ways to skin the same cat07:49
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K-Ryanfranz_ it depends on too many conditions.07:50
K-RyanYou're best bet is to try the upgrade while waiting for the cd.07:50
K-RyanWhichever happens first happens first.07:50
K-RyanWin either way ;)07:50
unclemikedoes apt-get have a history I can look through? dont see it in the man page?07:51
K-Ryanelyon how would i got about removing the older ones?07:51
franz_K-Ryan, true :) thanks for the help :) ( hopefully my distro update will now finish :) )07:51
K-Ryanfranz_ No problem and good luck!07:51
franz_stdin, thanks for all the help ! :)07:51
Perseid"embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd2,0)"... failed" Do I care?07:51
K-Ryanunclemike, I'm unaware or a history, but you can always tap the up arrow to cycle through commands you have entered.07:52
elyonunclemike: Unfortunately not.  I've always wished for that too... I've had many moments where I use Adept to install a bunch of packages, but when it doesn't install Menu listings (such as with VLC), it's hard to remember what I just installed.  But there's no way to look that up.07:52
unclemikecause I wish I knew what automatix installed07:52
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unclemikethats what I thought...07:52
intelikeyunclemike   sudo update-menus07:52
elyon!automatix | unclemike07:53
ubotuunclemike: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:53
elyonunclemike:  That's why it's so bad to use automatix... there's very little chance of reversing what it's done.07:53
K-RyanLike what ubotu said, you'll probably be best off reinstalling.07:53
elyonintelikey: I don't have that command.07:53
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TheCreationistthere, intelikey, sorry ;)07:54
K-Ryanelyon sorry to bother again but you're the only person who has given me a lead, but how would i remove the older linux kernels?07:54
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K-RyanI said but twice in the same sentence, can you tell I'm getting tired? =)07:55
MrBougoyou are07:55
MrBougohow can i tell tar to extract a tar to some dir07:55
MrBougoi know how to extract it to the current dir07:55
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Whiteyhello everyone07:56
MrBougobut on a specified dir??07:56
K-RyanHello Whitey07:56
WhiteyI'm having a problem with my kubuntu feisty - I'm on a live cd now. I did a reset 30 minutes ago, and now grub's giving me error 22 :(07:56
K-RyanMrBougo I'm not sure, I'll take a look at the program though07:56
TheCreationistK-Ryan: I would suggest looking through Adept for "linux" and "module".  But I know that grub has a text file that allows you to set the exact options that appear.  But I don't know exactly where/what that text file is.07:56
unclemike!WorksForMe07:56
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.07:56
TheCreationistK-Ryan: Maybe search Google for grub configuration tips?07:56
K-RyanWhitey try google, pop in Grub error 2207:57
K-RyanStart there07:57
Whiteyhmmm, is konqueror the web browser for the livecd?07:57
MrBougoaw, i ejected a disk before unmounting it...07:57
TheCreationistWhitey: Yes, unfortunately.07:57
Whiteymmm, seeems to be :P07:57
tmbgmy pornview (v 0.2pre1-7) segfaults in a similar manner to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345100 but this bug was supposed to be fixed in 0.2pre1-6?07:57
MrBougoand now that disk icon is stuck on my desktop07:57
TheCreationistWho the hell uses Konqueror for their default browser anyway?07:57
TheCreationistugh07:57
K-RyanKonqueror is the default web browser for Kubuntu07:57
MrBougowhat can i do? :p07:57
K-RyanPut it back in and try again?07:58
K-RyanI use Konqueror...07:58
TheCreationistK-Ryan: I'm sorry lol07:58
unclemikeI have to say, I just started using dolphin just to see, since its the buzz for kde4,  and I kinda like it07:58
WhiteyI'm a firefox fan myself :)07:58
K-RyanI don't see what's so bad about it *shrug*07:58
Whiteyalthough it has it's downsides07:58
K-RyanI use FireFox when I'm on Windows07:58
TheCreationistWhitey: I haven't found any yet, but I'm sure there are a few.07:59
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tmbgfirefox isn't the sleek and sexy browser it was a year or two ago07:59
Whiteyif I'm running a game in the foreground, I use konqueror - uses less memory07:59
unclemikewell konqueror loads pagees in wierd orders07:59
intelikeyhmmm ff is about my least tollerated browser07:59
K-RyanOpera?07:59
Whiteywell some of my favorite firefox addons have some linux memory leak issues :P07:59
TheCreationistI'm too attached to all my Firefox extensions...07:59
unclemikethat makes them shift around alot when its loading07:59
K-RyanI know what you're talking about, it messed google up the other day.07:59
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unclemikeyeah, just read that article on osnews08:00
unclemikefirefox is not the lean mean browser it used to be.   I used back in pheonix days08:00
K-RyanI still prefer it over IE08:00
K-RyanBut I've never tried anything else, so it's the logical choice.08:00
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intelikeyinstalling plain ff wants over 70m packages08:01
Whiteyopera isn't too bad - before firefox, it was my prefered browser on windows08:01
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tmbgunclemike, heh, you repeated almost the exact thing I said 20 seconds ago08:01
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tmbg00:58 <tmbg> firefox isn't the sleek and sexy browser it was a year or two ago 01:00 <unclemike> firefox is not the lean mean browser it used to be.   I used back in pheonix days08:02
unclemikehaha08:02
K-RyanHaha08:02
unclemikeyour right I missed it08:02
K-RyanStop it! Now he's copying me!08:02
K-Ryan=P08:02
unclemikebut I changed it around enough to get past the trademark ppl08:02
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K-RyanYeah yeah, a lowercase h...08:03
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unclemikeI use opera on my 266 laptop with Icewin. haha its the only thing that seems to run decent enough08:03
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unclemikebesides lynx that is08:04
cWolfewhy do most .wmv's suck?08:04
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unclemikelol08:04
cWolfein feisty...08:04
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K-Ryan.wmv08:04
K-Ryan"Windows"08:04
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tmbgno one has any idea about pornview & libxine segfault?08:04
K-Ryanpornview?08:05
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K-RyanUmm08:05
cWolfeK-Ryan,  um, yes porn nvids08:05
tmbgit has a silly name but it's a good image viewer.08:05
cWolfeoh08:05
Whiteyhttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/pornview08:05
Whitey:P08:05
cWolfenot what Tmbg means08:05
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tmbgfor porn and for whatever other kind of images that people look at. the ones that aren't porn. I've heard about such a thing08:05
unclemikewell I guess my friday nights gonna consist of a good old wipe the HD and reinstall feisty. w00t!08:07
K-RyanWell you can do both at the same time08:07
K-RyanIt only took me 15 minutes or so to install.08:07
tmbgoh. thought you meant watch porn and reinstall feisty08:07
K-RyanGet your mind out of the gutter =P08:08
K-RyanReally we should stop before we get yelled at.08:08
WhiteyK-Ryan: I've been googling for 10 minutes for grub error 22, all I've found is solutions for people with windows cds :(08:08
K-RyanWhitey I'll enter it for you and see if anything pops up08:08
Whitey:P08:08
unclemikewell the guy live 3 hours away so I gotta make sure everything he has is set up.  this was an ME *cring* box a few days ago08:09
Whiteylots of solutions for restoring the windows booter... which really wouldn't help me at all08:09
Whiteymaybe I should go have a poke at my grub files..08:09
K-RyanWait08:09
Whiteygotta work out what prtition they're on first though -_-08:09
K-RyanYou have the GRUB Loading stage 1.508:09
K-RyanGRUB loading, please wait...08:10
K-RyanError 2208:10
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K-RyanThat?08:10
Whiteyyes :P08:10
WhiteyI believe that's it08:10
unclemikebut I have to admit.  Feisty has convinced me to finally start putting Linux on friends and family computers08:10
K-RyanI had that...08:10
Whiteyit means grub can't find the partiton08:10
unclemikein the last 2 months Ive installed it on 5 computers!08:10
K-RyanIt means Grub can't be found08:10
Whiteynot bad unclemike :)08:10
intelikeyWhitey boot problems ?08:10
K-RyanGo mikey08:10
WhiteyI was using MEPIS before hand, but I love Kubuntu Feisty :P08:10
MrBougoheh, when i click "administrator mode" in the CP in "date and time" it doesnt do anything08:10
K-RyanYes intelikey, his GRUB is giving him trouble.08:10
Whiteyyes intelikey08:10
MrBougoi only see tgat red square08:11
MrBougothat*08:11
unclemikeand not one complaint! well confusion yes. but they cant beleive how fast its running08:11
Whiteyhmmm, I don't like koversation's tabbing system =/. Very strange08:11
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intelikeyWhitey k where are you now ?08:11
K-RyanI like it08:11
Whiteyon my kubuntu livecd08:11
K-RyanHe's on a Live CD08:11
MrBougohow can i change my timezone now...08:11
Whiteyfeisty 7.04 I believe08:11
K-RyanKDE Menu>System Settings08:11
intelikeyWhitey ok pastebin   sudo fdisk -l08:11
K-RyanStart there MrBougo08:11
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unclemikethey all wanted to buy new computers and I said why? 1.5 Ghz running like dogs with XP. sucha  sad sad waste08:12
K-RyanI myself want to get myself a new computer.08:12
Whiteyheh... pastebin.com's broken :P08:12
WhiteyQuery failure: Can't open file: 'recent.MYI'. (errno: 145)08:12
MrBougook K-Ryan08:12
WhiteyI'll try .ca :P08:12
K-RyanThis one is 6 years old, the DVD drive is stuck.08:12
K-RyanThe CD drive is getting stuck.08:12
K-RyanIt's an old P4 1.8GHz processor08:13
MrBougothen when i click on date & time then "administrator mode" it should ask me for my password08:13
Whiteyhttp://pastebin.ca/49637608:13
MrBougobut it doesn't, and show me that red square08:13
K-RyanGranted it runs nicely because I upgraded the RAM and graphics card.08:13
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MrBougoheh, it works no08:13
intelikeylooking08:13
MrBougonow*08:13
unclemikeI was thinking of putting out an add around town and at my college for free linux install08:13
MrBougothat's odd...08:13
WhiteyI have another hard drive, 120GB with a single windows partition on it, but it's not showing up there..08:13
Whiteyhaven't touched it in about 6 months08:13
MrBougothank you anyways K-Ryan :p08:13
K-RyanYou're welcome ;)08:13
MrBougoxD08:13
K-Ryanunclemike the only thing is you'd have to worry if someone screwed it up.08:14
unclemikeok well install time. thanx for the help K-Ryan08:14
unclemikeyeah one did08:14
Whiteyhmmm... I wonder what that W95 Ext'd is =/08:14
K-RyanThey'll make you buy them Vista =P08:14
K-Ryan*shivers*08:14
intelikeyWhitey oooh yuch.  how did your sda1 get deleted ?08:14
unclemikestarted adding media devices all over the place08:14
unclemikelol08:14
K-RyanNo problem, good luck with everything mike08:14
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unclemiketrying to find a cd she forgot to put into the drive08:15
unclemikeomg...08:15
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K-RyanI think I'm going to head out for the night08:15
Whiteyintelikey: as far as I know, it didn't =/08:15
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Whiteyall I did is reboot....08:15
K-RyanG'night guys.08:15
tahsinis this a kubuntu help chat room ?08:15
Whiteynight K-Ryan - ty :)08:15
K-RyanYes tahsin it is08:15
intelikeyWhitey looks like  653 blank cylenders at the beginning of the disk08:15
MrBougowhy does my tty font look odd...08:15
MrBougoit looks like greek stuff08:15
MrBougoi get some encoding glitches08:15
Whiteyhmmm... would that be my boot sector?08:16
WhiteyI know it's not my root (thank god)08:16
Whiteysda8 is my kubuntu root08:16
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tahsinCan anyone help me get more softwares on the add/remove software list ?08:16
MrBougoon line 16 of the apt-get manpage, i see "considered the user<tau greek letter>s"08:16
intelikeyWhitey that translate to about 5g on that disk that was probably where grub lived08:17
MrBougoand the m and w look odd...08:17
Whiteygrub needs 5GB? o_O08:17
Whiteyoh wait..08:17
Whiteyit would have been my old MEPIS root08:17
intelikeyWhitey no  but was probably on that partition08:17
Whiteythat was 5GB08:17
Whiteyand had a /boot08:17
Whiteyhmmm, but it should have been booting off my kubuntu boot...08:17
tahsinCan anyone help me get more softwares on the add/remove software list ?08:18
Whiteywell, my root is in sda8, and /boot is in there... How can I make grub understand that? :P08:18
intelikeyWhitey well we'll try to get it to       try this in a konsole ....  give me a second to check something first08:18
Whiteyk :P08:18
MrBougodo you guys also have a crazy tty font?08:18
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MrBougom and w's look capital08:18
tahsinK-Ryan Can you help me get more softwares on the add/remove software list ?08:19
WhiteyMrBougo: I have "considered the user's "back-end""08:19
Whitey:P08:19
MrBougohuh?08:19
Whiteyin the apt-get man08:19
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intelikeyWhitey  sudo mount /dev/sda8 /media && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/ /dev/sda08:20
WhiteyI think it's a character encoding thing, that replaces things like ' and " with weird letters08:20
MrBougooh08:20
MrBougome too08:20
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MrBougobut the " ' " in "user's" looks odd08:20
tahsinintelikey Can you help me get more softwares on the add/remove software list ?08:20
intelikeyWhitey that assumes you didn't have it mounted08:20
Whiteyyeah, I just unmounted it intelikey :P08:20
MrBougoit's white, not gray, and it's a greek letter or something08:20
MrBougolooks like tau08:20
intelikeytahsin pastebin the output of;  cat /etc/apt/sources.list      and i'll see08:21
Whiteyhmmm, I got some xfs warnings intelikey, but no errors08:21
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Whitey(hd0)   /dev/sda08:21
Whitey(hd1)   /dev/sdb08:21
intelikeyyes the warning is normal08:21
Whiteythat looks right...08:21
intelikeytest it08:21
WhiteyI think that's the boot map from when I installed kubuntu08:21
MrBougoWhitey, you used konsole right?08:22
Whiteygood point, brb (I hope :P)08:22
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Whiteyyes MrBougo :P08:22
MrBougoi'm talking about the tty, ctrl-alt-F108:22
MrBougoin konsole it looks ok :)08:22
FrankXhi all, for some reason my "Start Bar" has disappeared!? it keeps doing it *sometimes* when I boot the pc up. No errors are shown. anyone got any ideas how to A) get it back & B) stop it from disappearing in the first place.?08:22
Whiteyoh, I don't use tty :P08:22
Whiteybrb :D08:22
tahsinintelikey Do I paste the whole thing here ?08:22
intelikeyMrBougo i'm a console guy what gives ?08:22
intelikeytahsin not here.  use a pastebin.08:23
tahsinintelikey how do i do that ?08:23
tahsinintelikey im new08:23
intelikeytahsin http://www.pastebin.ca08:23
MrBougointelikey, do your console font also look odd with m's and w's?08:23
tahsinthnx08:23
intelikeygo there you'll see tahsin08:23
MrBougothey look like capital letters08:23
intelikeyMrBougo no i've got a good clean console08:24
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MrBougooh08:24
MrBougoline 16 of manpage apt-get looks ok too?08:24
MrBougowith "user's"08:24
tahsinintelikey i posted it08:24
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intelikeytahsin i need the url it returned08:25
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tahsinhttp://www.pastebin.ca/49638708:25
intelikeyok08:25
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intelikeytahsin if you are not going to use that upgrade feature you should probably comment out line 108:26
tahsinintelikey okay then ?08:27
tahsinintelikey how do i more softwares08:27
MrBougoheh, now my TTY looks ok...08:27
intelikeylines 28/29 you can uncomment   "not always the best idea though"08:27
MrBougoi don't get it... i really don't08:27
MrBougoi have minor problems, i try to understand them, and they suddenly disappear08:28
MrBougolmao08:28
intelikeyMrBougo sounds like a framebuffering issue maybe.   try "on the next boot"  using vga=normal    and see if it still does it08:28
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tahsinintelikey how do i more softwares08:29
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tahsinadd more softwares*08:29
intelikeytahsin lines 35 through 39 should be removed   they are redundant.08:29
tahsinok08:29
Linux_Galorecan anyone tell me if www.kde-apps.org or www.kde-look.org are still up08:29
MrBougointelikey, is it possible that it affects only m's and w's and thow one greek letter instead of an apostrophe?08:29
MrBougoshow*08:30
MrBougoLinux_Galore,  kde-apps down08:30
MrBougolook too08:30
Linux_GaloreMrBougo: good, I dont need to fix my proxy08:30
intelikeytahsin now beyond that i regret to inform you, i can not (or maybe will not) be able to help you add more listings    that is all of the official listings.08:30
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tahsinintelikey okay so that means that i will have to work with these limited number of softwares ?08:31
intelikeyMrBougo yes   it's also possable that console-utils is misconfigured or has a bug.   i personally don't use it.08:31
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Whiteywell it kind of worked intelikey :D08:32
Whiteybetter than it was anyway... :P08:32
intelikeytahsin yes or install from source code things that are not listed in them08:32
Linux_Galorehmm www.gnome-look.org is also down08:32
Whiteywhen I tried to boot normally, from the HD, I got the friendly old SYSTEM DISK ERROR message08:32
intelikey!b=e | tahsin08:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about b=e - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:32
MrBougointelikey, it looks fixed now, after rebooting...08:32
WhiteyI tried using my kubuntu livecd to boot off the first hd, and it opened grub08:32
Whiteyhowever I continually got an error trying to boot there - wrong hard drive =/08:33
intelikeyMrBougo i'll hang it on "frame buffer"  until proven different.08:33
MrBougoanyways i can't check this, because the problem is gone :p08:34
intelikeyWhitey ok one other thing.    is your disk  ide or sata ?   or other ?08:34
Whiteyintelikey: there aren't many files in /boot, only 6 of them and no folders... shouldn't there be more? =/08:34
Whiteyide08:34
Whiteyhowever kubuntu reads it as a sda :(08:34
intelikeyWhitey edit the /boot/grub/devices.map    and change the sda to hda     "no promices but it might help"08:35
Whiteythere are no folders in /boot :P08:35
intelikeyWhitey yes linux reads it as sda because it's using scsi emulation for all disks   but the bios doesn't  and that's what grub reads.  the bios08:36
Whiteysilly ubuntu :P08:36
intelikeyWhitey say what ?08:36
Whiteythere are no folders in boot :P08:36
intelikey<Whitey> there are no folders in /boot ?08:36
Whiteyonly 6 files, no folders08:36
intelikeyno grub/ ?08:37
Whiteynope :P08:37
intelikeyare you on the live cd as we speek ?08:37
Whiteyhmmm... wait a second...08:37
Whiteymy bad -_-08:37
WhiteyI'm looking in /boot08:37
Whiteynot /media/boot08:37
Whitey:P08:37
intelikey:)08:37
Whiteydamn partitions08:37
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Whiteyhmmm...08:39
Whiteyin my device.map, I now have08:39
Whiteyhd0)   /dev/hda08:39
Whitey(hd1)   /dev/sdb08:39
Whiteyhowever08:39
Whiteyin menu.lst, my ubuntu load reads08:39
Whiteyroot            (hd1,7)08:39
Whiteythat means it'll attempt to boot off sdb, right?08:39
Whiteyso I should change that one to hda, not the other one?08:39
intelikeyWhitey i just thought of something else that may be tweekin' grub's mellon       there isn't a partition 1   so bios may be mis-numbering them.08:39
intelikeyWhitey right.08:40
Whiteydoes it matter if hd0 and hd1 are pointing to hda?08:40
intelikeyWhitey fix your menu.lst08:40
WhiteyI'm pretty sure hd0 was originally sda though, as I do have a sata08:40
Whiteyok08:40
Whiteythis is good actually... I'm understanding a bit more about my PC ^_^08:41
Whiteyanyhoot, reboot number two :P08:41
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intelikeyyes it matters.   the devices.map tells grub where to find the kernel    the menu.lst tells the kernel where it lives.     so you will by all means have to get them both in an acceptable state as pertaining to the way bios sees them08:42
fdovinggood thing someone are positive when things break :)08:42
intelikeyfdoving yeah08:42
fdoving08:41 < Whitey> this is good actually... I'm understanding a bit more about my PC ^_^08:42
fdovingi like that one :)08:42
intelikeyfdoving yeah08:42
intelikeysome people are easy to help.08:43
intelikeythen there are the ones that know nothing08:43
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intelikeyand worse than that there are the ones that know everything08:43
FrankXmy K-bar (same as start bar in windows?) has disappeared - how do i get it back? (not due to it being auto hidden)08:43
intelikeyFrankX  sudo killall kicker ;kicker08:44
FrankXand more to the point, how do I stop it from disappearing in the first place?08:44
intelikeyyou can use   alt+f2  to get a place to put that08:44
fdovingclick run in terminal if you use sudo.08:45
tmbgor alt+space08:45
intelikeyoh wait.  kdesu  killall kicker ;kicker08:45
fdovingalt+space does not take regular commands.08:45
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fdovingonly desktop-file-names.08:45
intelikeysudo wont open a window....08:45
tmbgkdesu will.08:46
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FrankXok, thanks but it came up for a second, seemed to empty the trash:/ then went again ?!?08:47
intelikeyFrankX fdoving would be the one to help you trubble shoot how it vanished    i don't normally use the pointy clicky thingy called a GUI08:47
fdovingintelikey: probably an applet, as they are in the same process. systray-things have their own processes.08:48
FrankXi would do konsole but canny even get to it! lol08:48
intelikeyFrankX you can.   alt+f2  konsole08:48
FrankXit seems to do this randomly when i start up08:48
FrankXooh nice - konsole ;o)08:49
raylupointy clicky thingy called a gui....08:50
intelikey:)08:50
intelikeyi hear the fox puppies fighting,  i'm going to see if i can get a look at them.08:51
FrankXso without the "pointy clicky thing", in konsole what do i do? lol08:51
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whiteyjust here to say ty so much intelikey :D08:53
whiteyit works :P08:53
whiteyalthough I have to use my kubuntu livecd and choose "boot from first hard drive" to make grub work08:53
whiteybut I've always done that08:53
whiteyI don't really mind though, I don't use my cdrom drive :)08:54
whiteyanyway, ty again ^_^08:54
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intelikeyman what a dog fight.08:56
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intelikeyi didn't know foxes were so agressive08:56
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LordOfThePigsHello!08:56
intelikeyyou'd think that these puppies were trying to kill each other...    (wild silver foxes)08:57
LordOfThePigsDoes anybody know why Kubuntu download firefox when I install the Chinese language from the system settings?08:57
LordOfThePigsdefinitely looks strange to me...08:58
intelikeyLordOfThePigs sounds strange too08:58
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intelikeysudo apt-get remove firefox   and see if it offers to take the language pack with it ?08:59
intelikeyyou can always say no.08:59
LordOfThePigswell... It's not finished installing yet08:59
intelikeyoh yeah.  ff is huge08:59
LordOfThePigsyeah, and so is the chinese language pack08:59
LordOfThePigsnot to mention that chinese internet connections blow...09:00
fdovingLordOfThePigs: what is the packagename of that langpack?09:00
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LordOfThePigser...the first package to be downloaded was language-pack-kde-zh-base09:01
fdovingthat does not depend on firefox.09:02
LordOfThePigsI suppose that's the main package that the language installer chose09:02
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LordOfThePigsThen, maybe the language installed decided that I needed firefox09:02
fdovingLordOfThePigs: or maybe it decided to install the firefox language things. that would require firefox too :)09:03
LordOfThePigsheh09:03
fdovingmozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn or similar.09:03
intelikeyor mozila-language* which would prolly opt for ff09:03
LordOfThePigsI really don't know what packages the language installer chose, I don't get to see those09:04
LordOfThePigsso...09:04
fdovingyou can find out when it's finished. in /var/log/dpkg.log09:04
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LordOfThePigsShould I consider this install of firefox as a bug?09:05
fdovingLordOfThePigs: yes.09:06
intelikeylanguage-pack-kde-zh-base   Depends: locales (>= 2.3.6), language-pack-kde-zh    <<<  that's dapper,09:06
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LordOfThePigswell... I found out that chinese input is just borked most of the time09:07
LordOfThePigsI thought I did something wrong in my first try at installing it, so I reinstalled the whole system09:07
LordOfThePigsapplied the updates09:07
intelikeyyes zh needs to be totally rewriten as far as computers are concerned09:08
LordOfThePigsand directly used the language installer to add chinese09:08
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adydaswhats the dang file you edit to change run levels to boot to console first09:08
LordOfThePigsHow come it works reasonably well on Ubuntu though?09:08
intelikeyadydas there isn't one09:08
adydaserr09:09
fdovingadydas: you don't change runlevels to do that anymore. you move /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm to /etc/rc2.d/K99kdm09:09
adydasim posative ive done it before09:09
adydassince when09:09
adydasmy last install of kubuntu i edited a 5 to a 3 or somthing09:09
adydasin a conf..09:09
fdovingit's been the proper way to do it for years.09:09
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intelikeyadydas all runlevels are alike except 0,1,6   halt single (root console) and reboot  respectivly09:09
adydasok so what must i do to boot to console by default09:10
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fdovingadydas: you move /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm to /etc/rc2.d/K99kdm09:10
adydasor what can i googgle ( as this is why im getting nothing )09:10
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LordOfThePigswhere should I report the bug?09:10
fdovingadydas: S means start K means kill. rename it back if you want KDM back.09:10
intelikeyor just rm  /etc/rc2.d/S*dm09:10
fdovingLordOfThePigs: bugs.ubuntu.com09:11
fdovingintelikey: that would make them re-appear on upgrades.09:11
youbuntu!defragment09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about defragment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:11
intelikeywould let them.  yes09:11
LordOfThePigsand how come it tries to install some Dapper package...09:11
adydass13kdm ?09:11
intelikeyLordOfThePigs what ?09:12
ugauhm, anyone knows if websvn can be made require authentication just like dav?09:12
LordOfThePigswell, that what you said, isn't it? --> language-pack-kde-zh-base   Depends: locales (>= 2.3.6), language-pack-kde-zh    <<<  that's dapper,09:12
intelikeyLordOfThePigs you misread.  i said that listhing was for dapper.   i have dapper09:13
LordOfThePigsoh09:13
intelikeyLordOfThePigs so you would know why the version numbers didn't match09:13
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unix_infidelanyone here ever tried a backup of an ntfs partition with ntfs-clone and a feisty live cd?09:15
unix_infidelno compression involved, how long is the process usually.09:15
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intelikeyhere comes one now.09:15
ugaoh well, lets use apache auth...09:15
intelikeyfdoving know anything about uga's Q   i'm network illiterate09:17
LordOfThePigsso, I've checked the 4 language-pack packages that have been downloaded, and none depends on firefox09:17
adydasok09:17
adydasi have no such file in my rc2.d folder called S99kdm09:17
ugaintelikey: it's fine, I think I figured out, but thanks anyway. Websvn doesn't seem to implement any authentication system, but apache allows doing that itself09:17
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ugaintelikey: it's explained here nicely http://www.sesp.cse.clrc.ac.uk/Publications/cvs-svn/node46.html09:18
intelikeyadydas as i mentioned    *dm   could be gdm xdm    and the prefix could be  S{0..99}09:18
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LordOfThePigsOh, and I have another general question. Is there any defined cycle on which Ubuntu updates application packages?09:18
intelikeyuga ok.   and fdoving you can disreguard my Q  :)09:19
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intelikeyLordOfThePigs yes as bug fixes and security updates come out09:20
intelikeyalmost daily something is updated09:20
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LordOfThePigsyeah, I saw the security fixes09:21
LordOfThePigsbut I mean real application updates09:21
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intelikeynext release09:21
intelikey6 months09:21
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LordOfThePigsOkay09:21
LordOfThePigsand What's into the multiverse packages?09:21
adydasanyone got a help file to help me change to console only booting09:22
intelikey!repos | LordOfThePigs09:22
ubotuLordOfThePigs: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:22
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intelikeyadydas   find /etc/rc2.d/ -iname '*dm'    and  mv it replacing the S with  a K    or rm it completly09:23
intelikeysurely you can do that...09:23
adydasi think i got it09:24
adydasi had no "kdm" file in there that i could find09:24
adydaseither way 'update-rc.d -f kdm remove" does the trick09:24
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intelikeyE: unexpected EOF looking for matching '09:26
oldwestusing kubuntu - added kde toys - but can't see it in anywhere in K Menu - any idea's?09:27
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intelikeykdesu update-menus09:27
tmbgor run kappfinder09:28
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PerseidI'm in grub, and find /boot/grub/stage1 says not found even though I can navigate to /boot/grub and stage1 is right there.09:28
oldwestintelikey - run from konsole?09:28
fdovingadydas: be aware that on kdm upgrades it will be re-enabeled with the update-rc.d -f kdm remove method.09:29
intelikeyor wait 20 seconds and they will probably be in the kmenu09:29
intelikeyoldwest yes09:29
fdovingintelikey: update-menus is for the debian menu-thing. kbuildsycoca is for kde.09:29
oldwestthx - will give it a try09:29
intelikeyfdoving it doesn't update in kde ?09:29
fdovingintelikey: update-menus will only update the debian-submenu of the kmenu, if you have the 'menu' package installed. (update-menus is part of that package)09:30
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LordOfThePigsoh, it seems that language-support-zh requires mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn which in turn requires firefox09:31
intelikeyso is 'menu' default in kubuntu ?09:31
LordOfThePigsheh...09:31
fdovingLordOfThePigs: that was my guess, please report a bug on that one.09:32
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LordOfThePigsand it also requires thunderbird...09:32
richardahojte09:32
intelikeyand oo.o09:33
intelikeyDepends: mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn, mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-tw, scim-chewing, scim-pinyin, scim-tables-zh, openoffice.org-help-zh-cn | openoffice.org2-help-zh-cn, openoffice.org-help-zh-tw | openoffice.org2-help-zh-tw, openoffice.org-l10n-zh-cn | openoffice.org2-l10n-zh-cn, openoffice.org-l10n-zh-tw | openoffice.org2-l10n-zh-tw, im-switch, thunderbird-locale-zh-cn, gimp-help-zh-cn09:33
LordOfThePigsOh, one last thing. When I installed kubuntu-desktop on top of my ubuntu, I got a wizard to setup the general behavior of KDE, like single click to open folders and stuff09:33
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LordOfThePigsHow can I get this wizard to show under kubuntu09:33
oldwestintelikey - got following error - update-menus: not found09:33
intelikeyoldwest yes sorry fdoving corrected me.  that's not a default app.   try   kbuildsycoca09:34
intelikeyoldwest that should be there.09:34
PerseidAdept is saying the package manager is in use and its not...09:35
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | Perseid09:35
ubotuPerseid: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:35
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oldwestran that and got - ERROR: No database available!09:35
intelikeydid it work or not oldwest  ?09:36
oldwestnope got error i listed09:36
intelikeybut did it work or not oldwest  ?09:37
intelikeyi think i remember jucato saying that was a feature not an error...09:37
oldwesti will check k - menu to see if listed hang on09:37
oldweststill don't see kde toys listed anywhere - try uninstall from synaptics - reboot - and reinstall?09:39
intelikeyit's in games09:39
oldwestcheez - what klutz - soooorrrrryyyyyy.... ;o(09:40
oldwestthx inteli - bein g a dumb a.. again - i've seen the ligt - grin09:41
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intelikeysorry.  had to get a plug in on that one.09:41
intelikey:)09:41
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bogdanhello09:46
guillermoshockwave a flash player? how do i make this plugins work in webconquror or firefox?09:47
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intelikey!flash09:48
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash09:48
PerseidWow, this Kubuntu install has gone to pieces. Now I have no sound. I have an Audigy.09:48
intelikey!sound09:49
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:49
intelikeyPerseid check there ^09:49
PerseidThanks09:50
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intelikeyshooot...   line 513: syntax error: unexpected end of file09:50
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krautmoin09:52
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intelikeykraut09:54
krauthello intelikey09:56
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guillermohow do i make conqueror to use jave?09:57
guillermofor some games i mean09:57
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blackdiamondHi everybody. I've got a problem. Downloading a bioinformatic program "Folding@home" for linux from this webpage http://folding.stanford.edu/italian/download.html i obtain an .exe programm.. how is it possible in linux and what i have to do? thanks09:59
intelikeyunzip file.exe10:00
blackdiamondis not possible to transform .exe in .deb?10:01
blackdiamondusing command lines?10:01
PerseidOK. Since I have an Audigy I'm trying to modprobe snd-emu10k2 but it says it's not found. Is there a package I need to get?10:01
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Hobbseeblackdiamond: it's not10:03
blackdiamondso, sorry for this stupid question..i have to unzipped exe file and then is possible to install it?10:04
blackdiamondthanks hobb10:04
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Hobbseethat's the equivalent of asking if you can open a mac application on XP.10:05
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!10:05
Hobbseeer, run10:05
Hobbseehi MilhousePunkRock!10:05
MilhousePunkRockhello Hobbsee!10:05
MilhousePunkRockWhat was that command to remove modules from init.d again?10:05
Hobbseeremove, or unload?10:06
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intelikeyany chance this will work in a case loop ?        `translations -s | grep -woie $WHATTODO`)10:09
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MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: So that's like "/etc/init.d/module.name remove" ?10:11
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fdovingMilhousePunkRock: are you looking for 'update-rc.d -f modulename remove' ? - remebmer it won't remove anything from /etc/init.d/, it will only remove the symlinks from /etc/rc?.10:12
fdovingd10:12
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock  or  modprobe -r module-name    ?10:13
MilhousePunkRockfdoving: Yeah, update-rc, that's it...10:13
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HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: what fdoving said :)10:13
MilhousePunkRockBecause I neither need bluetooth nor wacom stuff, every upgrade (like from dapper to edgy or from edgy to feisty) puts them back into action10:14
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fdovingMilhousePunkRock: ah, then you don't want update-rc.d, you want to manually rename the links in /etc/rc2.d/10:15
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: you want to rename from example: S10script to K10script10:15
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fdovingMilhousePunkRock: that way they won't be reactivated by upgrades.10:16
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MilhousePunkRockfdoving: Just from S to K? Because there is some stuff with K already...10:18
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: yes, from S to K. from Start to Kill10:19
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MilhousePunkRockwhat's the modprobe parameter to show all modules currently loaded?10:21
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fdovingMilhousePunkRock: use 'lsmod' for that.10:22
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MilhousePunkRockfdoving: Right, thanks, I keep forgetting even the basic stuff...10:24
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: they will soon be history when we properly start using upstrart :)10:24
fdovingupstart, that is.10:24
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intelikeyMilhousePunkRock  lsmod to list inserted modules.  modprobe -L to list all avalable modules     rmmod and modprobe -r  remove modules from the running kernel.10:25
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MilhousePunkRockfdoving: Well, I thought it was in Feisty. On the other hand, I was wondering why there is still the regular init script structur that I know from my Gentoo box...10:25
MilhousePunkRocks/structur/structure10:26
MilhousePunkRockSo lsmod shows no wacom or bluetooth stuff... But raid, I wonder where that comes from...10:27
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MilhousePunkRockI think that's the downside of Kubuntu's automagic, you will always find things that you really do not need... No RAID or LVM here, but still it loads it...10:29
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intelikeyMilhousePunkRock /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:31
intelikeyall your wacom errors are from there.   i think10:32
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MilhousePunkRockintelikey: I don't get wacom errors, but as I do not have a tablet pc, I don't need those modules.. Anyway, thanks for the reminder to look into the xorg.conf too, because I would get errors now without the modules10:33
intelikeybluetooth i'm not sure about.    grep -HiRe 'bluetooth' /etc     will surely list it though10:33
intelikeyoh and MilhousePunkRock most modules wont insert if the hardware is not there.    "some will of course"        and i couldn't tell you which those are.10:35
MilhousePunkRockintelikey: Nice, looks like ibm-acpi loads the bluetooth stuff10:35
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MilhousePunkRockintelikey: But they will still try and look for the hardware, which slows down my boot process, won't they?10:39
intelikeybalal balal sham balal shama10:40
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intelikeyMilhousePunkRock yes.   unless you blacklist them or by some other means disable them.10:40
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intelikeythere is always more than one method of removing the epidurmal of the felion10:41
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intelikeyyaradi Habiat.   shalom.10:42
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MrBougohello10:43
MrBougo361 connected, amazing10:43
aleksanteriwhat's with kde-look.org? i get "connection refused" when trying to wget the index page >_>10:44
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MrBougoaleksanteri, it's down10:44
aleksanteriany idea when it's coming back?10:44
MrBougohow can i know this10:44
MrBougobah, just wait :)10:44
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aleksanteriright :P10:44
MrBougoyou can't do anything else, heh10:45
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aleksanteriyeah :|10:45
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jordi_aguna10:49
haensegrss gott, spricht jemand deutsch?10:49
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MilhousePunkRockhaense: #kubuntu-de10:49
haenseok thanks10:49
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MilhousePunkRockWell, I'm out now... Have a nice day everyone!10:52
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MrBougoheh, how can you disable spell chacking?10:56
MrBougochecking*10:56
pagMrBougo, where? or do you want to disable it everywhere?10:57
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MrBougoeverywhere10:57
MrBougoi gues i have to remove some packages10:58
Zota veces me pregunto si los peces duermen...10:58
pag!es | Zot10:58
ubotuZot: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:58
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nbcbwhat do i need in order to play a original movie dvd?????? what packages11:12
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nbcb!dvd11:13
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs11:13
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|ericsson|I'm having problems with dvd-playback in kaffeine, keeps telling me that no demux plugin is found11:26
lydiai  hav problems with amule11:26
lydiarefuses to lauch11:26
lydiahelp anymone?11:26
premier__lydia: did you try running it in console?11:26
premier__thats usually the first step in debugging a problem11:27
premier__what is amule11:27
lydiawhat command to run an app?11:27
lydiaamule is emule11:27
lydiafor linux users11:27
premier__lydia: well, you got to a console window, and you type the name of the program.  Then tell me what it does11:28
premier__what is emule?11:28
lydiap2p11:28
lydiafailmed to open device11:28
lydiatexting skins11:28
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lydiaX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16911:29
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lydiathe same fotr xmule11:29
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lydia*** glibc detected *** xmule: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x08e92c0c ***11:30
sandhyahello. How do I get Azureus to start when I log on?11:31
jaystupid question11:31
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Lynourejay: rude answer11:31
lydialol11:31
jayhow do I edit a file that it says I can't write to.11:31
jayOh wow, look at the wit on you.11:31
Lynouresandhya: you can add it to ~/.kde/Autostart  or more easily, just do not close it when you log out11:32
premier__misunderstanding much?11:32
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sandhyaLynoure: there is no way to do this without using the command line?11:32
premier__jay: I think what you want is root access, right?11:32
Lynouresandhya: The latter takes no action at all11:32
jaybecause I need to edit the alsa-base file in the modeprobe.d folder11:32
premier__sandhya: you don't need command line11:32
jayand i can't do it11:32
jayI tried become su11:32
jayand opening it with kate in terminal11:33
premier__jay: whats wrong with su?11:33
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jaybut kate wont work from terminal11:33
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premier__jay: why not?11:33
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crimsunjay: kdesu 'kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base'11:33
sandhyaLynoure: When I don't shut it down, Azureus gives me a bunch of warnings then next time it starts etc.11:33
lydiano matter11:33
crimsunjay: otherwise you can use any of the installed ncurses-based editors11:34
sandhyapremier__: oh you mean using a text editor?11:34
jayroot@God:/etc/modprobe.d# kdesu 'kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base'11:34
jayXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server11:34
jayXlib: No protocol specified11:34
jaykdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.011:34
Lynouresandhya: hmm, that's annoying.11:34
premier__sandhya: heres how you do it: open up kate, write the name of the program you want (azureus).  Then save it to home/you/.kde/Autostart.11:34
guillermois there any iso. mounter, like deamon tools?11:34
jaycrimsun, what11:34
premier__now, go find the file with konqueror11:34
bozz_hello, I'm a first timer here11:34
jayI'm a little off my gord tonight11:34
jayi got in the rum11:34
crimsunjay: ``sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base'', for instance11:35
Lynouresandhya: the command line bit does not take much, I can walk you through it if you wish11:35
premier__sandhya: then, right click on the file, go to properties11:35
guillermohello11:35
premier__sandhya: goto permissions, then click the check box for "executable"11:35
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premier__sandhya: that should work11:35
lydiab69e4000-b69e7000 r--s 00000000 03:41 5881920    /var/cache/fontconfiAborted (core dumped)11:35
lydiaxtf11:35
lydiawtf11:35
bozz_can someone help me please, I dont have direc rendering...11:36
premier__lydia: that means your program crashed... I'm not really sure how to help you11:36
lydiaok11:36
sandhyapremier__: Autostart seems to be a directory.. So I should just give the file _any_ name?11:36
premier__sandhya: yeah, sorry, any name will do11:36
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premier__sandhya: what your doing is writing a script, and everytime you start up kde, it will attempt to execute it11:37
pagbozz_, what card do you have? (nvidia, ati etc.)11:37
premier__bozz_: what kind of card do you have?11:37
Lynourepremier__: Autostart does not require   #! /bin/sh ?11:37
premier__lol, jinx11:37
bozz_I have ATI X70011:37
jaythanks guys, have to restart to see if it works11:37
premier__Lynoure: not sure actually... maybe I should have her do that11:38
jaysomeone find my lighter while I'mgone.11:38
premier__lydia: could you click on the file after your make it exectutable?  Azureus should come up11:38
sandhyapremier__: done. thanks! I will have to restart to test it.11:38
premier__bozz_: some of the radeons have a nasty driver called fglrx11:39
sandhyaI have another question though11:39
premier__I'm not sure if thats you or not11:39
premier__sandhya: shoot11:39
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premier__!ask | sandhya11:39
ubotusandhya: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:39
bozz_premier_: yeah I'm trying to use that11:39
sandhyahow do i set Konqueror to always start with a view configuration that I have saved?11:39
bozz_but renderer is still Mesa11:39
premier__bozz_: are you following the ubuntu tutorial?11:39
bozz_premier_ yeah of course11:40
premier__sandhya: well, in one of the menus, theres a button that says "save view configuration or something like that"11:40
sandhyaI saved one named Sandhya.. but every time I start up Konqueror I have to manually choose it11:40
premier__sandhya: it doesn't work perfectly yet11:40
sandhyaCan't I just have it as the default?11:40
bozz_I installed the driver but I don't have direct rendering11:40
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jaynevermind11:40
jayI found the lighter11:40
sandhyapremier__: ok thanks11:40
premier__sandhya: yeah, save the saved session, not as "sandhya" but as "defualt"11:41
sandhyaah!11:41
premier__sandhya: there should be one called file browser or something... save it to that11:42
premier__my mistake11:42
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sandhyapremier__: ah, cool!11:42
premier__bozz_: hmm... I'm assuming your trying to run 3d things and you get bad framerates?  or did you do "fglrxinfo"?11:42
sandhyathanks a lot!11:42
sandhyaI am going to restart this computer11:43
sandhyathanks again!11:43
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premier__sandhya!11:43
premier__ack!11:43
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premier__restart the whole computer?   what a waste11:43
bozz_premier_: yes fglrxinfo told me, I want to install Beryl project if you heard about that11:43
premier__bozz_: yeah, beryls pretty cool, but I have a radeon like you and its a bitch... I hate ati11:43
jaymy sound isn't working11:44
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jayhm...11:44
xlinux_i have one annoying problem with KDE11:44
premier__hmm... did you try to go through troubleshooting11:44
jaywell, I shouldn't say that11:44
jaythe sound is working11:44
premier__!ohmy | premier_11:44
ubotupremier_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:44
xlinux_ive been working linux well for like 3 months, but I still havent figured this one out11:44
jayI just can't get a linein/mic to work11:44
premier__xlinux_: shoot11:44
premier__!ask11:44
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:44
bozz_premier_: I was trying to look for the solution with no luck :(11:44
premier__ubotu is so fun11:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is so fun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:45
premier__lol ubotu11:45
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bozz_premier_: do you have Beryl installed?11:45
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premier__bozz_: I got it working once, but I never made it my primary desktop11:46
premier__bozz_: I'm still trying to find someone to fix *my* beryl issue11:46
premier__its worse than yours11:46
premier__but, can you give more detail?11:46
xlinux_premier, sorry, trying to help others...11:46
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bozz_premier_: well I don't have it installed yet, because direct rendering is off11:47
premier__did anything happen differently than it should in the tutorial?11:47
bozz_nope11:47
premier__hmmm....11:47
premier__thats a toughie11:47
premier__did you restart X/11:47
xlinux_premier: conky is never transparent at startup- I have to manually change the wallpaper11:47
premier__?11:47
bozz_yeah I did11:47
premier__xlinux_: what do you mean?11:47
jaywhat was that editor thing again?11:48
premier__bozz_: all I can think of is to try againg, maybe reboot the whole computer... otherwise, I have no clue11:48
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premier__the guys at #beryl might be more help11:48
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bozz_hmm thx11:48
premier__jay: which editor?  kate?11:48
xlinux_conky isnt transparent.. its  a big black box on my screen. If I open configure desktop and change the wallpaper, it turns transparent11:49
jayno11:49
premier__xlinux_: are you using beryl or compiz?11:49
xlinux_premier.. take your time.. I know the pain of trying to multitask11:49
jaythe one whats his name said to use because kate wasn't working11:49
premier__whats conky?11:49
premier__kwrite11:49
xlinux_yes, but I dont have beryl enabled at startup11:49
premier__I'm a kwrite user... its lighter11:49
xlinux_conkys freeking awesome...11:49
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xlinux_hold on, ill post a link11:50
xlinux_http://conky.sourceforge.net/11:50
premier__xlinux_: I just saw chobits, so now I want my computer to make wirring and clicking noises when the processor is in use... trying to figure out how I'd do that11:50
jayit was an in terminal editor11:51
premier__xlinux_: man, thats awesome... I don't much like desktop widgets, but I might get this one11:51
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premier__is there a .deb package?11:51
xlinux_yes11:52
premier__jay: within the emulator?11:52
xlinux_you can install it with the terminal too11:52
premier__xlinux_: apt-get?11:52
jaynevermind11:52
SharpRazoRneed help people, I don't have connection to the repositories although I had before??11:52
xlinux_yeah.. i believe so.. lemme check11:52
premier__xlinux_: if you want to sound cool, you can say its "in the repos"11:52
xlinux_i know11:53
xlinux_lol11:53
SharpRazoRplease anyone??11:53
xlinux_i dont really need to sound cool, as long as you get the point11:53
premier__SharpRazoR: sorry11:54
premier__SharpRazoR: could you tell me more about your problem?11:54
xlinux_premier... considering you havent tried it, youll prolly be in the same boat as me.. unless you use black wallpaper11:54
SharpRazoRAdept Updater shows that there are updates11:54
premier__xlinux_: ah... I don't really care11:54
premier__xl11:54
premier__xlinux_: actually, I use a desktop slideshow11:55
xlinux_I bet that takes some RAM11:55
SharpRazoRbut when in adept updater or adept manager, I see only installed programs11:55
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premier__xlinux_: I have a lot11:55
SharpRazoRit shows that connection has beed refused when trying to install something from terminal11:56
xlinux_speaking of the crappy thing known as adept, how can I switch to Synaptic11:56
premier__xlinux_: switch?  I mean, its really all the same, it all just calls apt-get to do the dirty work11:56
xlinux_premier... so do I, 2gigs worth.. where to find such a program?11:56
premier__xlinux_: its part of kdebase... just go into the desktop config window11:56
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premier__SharpRazoR: hmm... could you pastebin your repos?11:57
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premier__SharpRazoR: I'm assuming you don't know what I'm talking about11:57
xlinux_I dont know.. with synaptic I could "kinda" know what I was looking for, and I could find it. With adept, I cant find it unless I spell it EXACTLY right, etc...11:57
SharpRazoRoh by the way, it tries to connect to 127.0.0.1 IP but what the hell for?? and after that it surprisingly says connection refused:)11:57
premier__SharpRazoR: thats weird11:58
jayokay11:58
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jayI haev a problem11:58
premier__xlinux_: I just use apt-get + apt-cache11:58
jaywhere it says 'input source' on my sound mixer11:58
xlinux_apt-cache?11:58
SharpRazoRit says could not connect to localhost 127.0.0.111:58
premier__SharpRazoR: go to /etc/apt/sources.list11:58
xlinux_wow.. havent used that one...11:58
jayit just says line and there is no volume bar11:58
SharpRazoRyes?11:59
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haydar_Anyone know11:59
premier__then copy and paste the contents to http://pastebin.com/11:59
haydar_how to fix this11:59
haydar_when i run the file /et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run)11:59
haydar_it starts with kate11:59
premier__SharpRazoR: then send me the link11:59
Flamzarthello im wondering if anyone here would be able to help me with an issue im having with getting kubuntu/ubuntu livecd/intall to work on my friends comp11:59
haydar_something with the premissions :S11:59
SharpRazoRbut how?12:00
premier__haydar_: that means it has no idea what to do with it12:00
haydar_hmm12:00
haydar_its a .run file12:00
SharpRazoRproperties and tick as executable12:00
premier__SharpRazoR: go to the site, and theres a big text box, right?12:00
haydar_worked12:00
haydar_thx12:00
SharpRazoReee right?12:01
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premier__xlinux_: type "apt-cache <search>" and it will show you all sorts of packages12:01
premier__for example, type "apt-cache search snes" and you can see snes emulators12:01
haydar_is it wise to install it with sudo12:01
haydar_or normal user?12:01
haydar_i'm installing it with normal user12:01
premier__SharpRazoR: copy and paste the file to that box, then click the button12:02
xlinux_hmmm.. nice12:02
premier__that says send12:02
premier__haydar_: usually you have to install stuff with sudo12:02
xlinux_I really dont use apt-anything that often. I usually shoot for aptitude12:02
premier__haydar_: its not that bad, just don't be haphazard12:02
SharpRazoRok ok12:02
xlinux_maybe im prejudiced, but ive heard aptitude is better12:03
premier__don't type sudo rm -fR * or something like that12:03
SharpRazoRbut the problem is that I can install stuff only because I put my Feisty DVD as a repository12:03
premier__xlinux_: I think I've heard that too12:03
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premier__xlinux_: but apt-get works everytime for me, so I don't question it12:03
SharpRazoRnormally I have some like 20k distros to install when having full access to repos12:03
jayi just want sound with this tv tuner card12:03
jay:(12:03
premier__SharpRazoR: well, delete it, and you should be okay12:03
jaystupid linein/mic not working12:04
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premier__jay: I'm really not able to help you... you can go to #ubuntu, or try the forums, or just try again later12:04
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premier__"sudo rm -fR *"?  that sounds fun... lets try it!12:05
premier__don't do that!12:05
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premier__you can seriously delete your entire hard drive12:05
SharpRazoRdoesn't work, I'm thinking about reinstalling whole system, for the 20th time )12:06
jayI know12:06
jayI'm just whining12:06
jayyou've never had a good whine?12:06
premier__SharpRazoR: well, idk, but if you come back when someone more educated is around... I've only been using linux for 6 mo, this is the first time I've help out on #kubuntu12:07
premier__SharpRazoR: just be a little paitient... but if you want to uninstall, cannonical ltd isn't going to stop you12:08
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premier__!nothing12:10
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Flamzarthas anyone had a probelm with the livecd hanging with a blinking cursor after it has taken its time going thru the kubunto loading splash screen12:11
premier__Flamzart: hmm... thats a toughie12:11
premier__Flamzart: you sure its not just loading stuff?12:11
premier__Flamzart: have you gotten it to boot before?12:11
premier__Flamzart: also, how much ram do you have?12:12
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Flamzartuseds the same cd to install it on my comp12:12
Flamzartalso ran the cd test in the compp in qustion12:12
Flamzartso its not a cd-drive or bad cd issue12:13
premier__Flamzart: so ubuntu is already installed?12:13
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Flamzarton my comp its installed and running, on my friends comp all he has is winxp and some unpartitiond space12:14
premier__oh, so this is on your freinds cd?12:15
premier__computer, i mean12:15
Flamzartyep12:15
premier__how much ram does he have?  thats a major part of success at liveCDS12:15
premier__since it has to store an entire OS on the ram12:15
Flamzart512 mb,  700mhz celron12:15
premier__I'm sorry, I gotta go to bed everyone12:16
premier__Flamzart: not sure, that should be plenty12:16
Flamzartk12:16
Flamzartcya if ya off12:17
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premier__Flamzart: getting a liveCD to work is substantially harder that getting it to work off the hard drive... what are your goals in booting the liveCD?  there is an "alternate install CD" if that helps12:17
premier__its text based though12:17
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Flamzartim just wondering, if, its normal to hang with a cuser like that on a slow kit, and if theres another way to install without having to load the OS from the livecd12:18
premier__well, Flamzart, maybe try again tommarow... this forum is more popular between about 7-12ish american time12:18
premier__Flamzart: thats what the alternate install cd is for12:18
premier__you should be able to find it on the kubuntu website12:18
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premier__!kubuntu12:19
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE12:19
premier__!KDE12:19
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.12:19
premier__!play!12:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about play! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:19
premier__ubotu play with me!12:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about play with me! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:19
premier__!anything12:19
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.12:19
premier__alright, good night12:19
Flamzartgn12:20
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xlinux_hello?12:25
Flamzartyo12:26
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xlinux_you know anything about crappy Phoenix BIOS?12:27
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Flamzartwhat do u ned to do with it12:30
dakokihi!12:30
dakokisomeone knows the name of the taskbar applet that has 3 small bars which indicates the memoy cpu and swap?12:30
lupulwhich is the group with the least permissions?12:31
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lupuldakoki try superkaramba12:31
nicolai_Hey12:31
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iarwain_lupul: a user with only read-access?12:32
nicolai_I have some files on my external harddrive with "ubuntu (999)" set as owner12:32
nicolai_I got this from copying files using the live-cd12:32
nicolai_How do I change it to "nicolai (1000)"?12:33
lupulyes12:33
iarwain_nicolai_: "sudo chown nicolai:nicolai" would be my guess12:33
iarwain_nicolai_: oh, add a -R to the chown ;)12:34
Jacko2007I have lost my K-Menu button for WineFile and all of the other wine stuff yet I still have wine installed12:34
Jacko2007I have tried reinstalling wine12:34
iarwain_lupul: so you just make a user, give him his home dir, and only give him read-access12:34
haydar_Anyone got a good radio station12:35
haydar_with music on it12:35
haydar_bored:(12:35
iarwain_haydar_: last.fm ?12:35
lupulyes but how do i give him only read access?12:35
haydar_:D12:35
Jacko2007haydar_ if your from the UK galaxymanchester.co.uk12:35
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iarwain_lupul: checking it aswell =) i don't actually know that ;o12:35
lupuland i want to give him read access to the dir i gave him12:35
dakokilupul im not talking about superkaramba,  its an applet form de taskbar12:35
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lupulaham. ok12:35
dakokii think its quite cool but i dont fin it12:36
dakokifind12:36
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aleksanterii unlock the panels but can't see the "handles" that allow me to move the applets12:36
aleksanteriwhat's wrong?12:36
SharpRazoR<premier> are You there?12:36
iarwain_lupul: i'd deny him access from all other secondary groups, and chmod the map to only reading12:37
nicolai_iarwain: didn't seem to work :/12:37
Jacko2007I have lost my K-Menu button for WineFile and all of the other wine stuff yet I still have wine installed12:37
Jacko2007haydar_ if your from the UK galaxymanchester.co.uk12:37
lupuli did that12:37
iarwain_nicolai_: did you get any errors? (btw, type my name fully or otherwise i won't see it highlighted ^^ )12:37
lupulthanks12:37
iarwain_lupul: so it works now? =)12:38
Jacko2007aleksanteri, have you unlocked the panels?12:38
lupulyes it does12:38
aleksanteriJacko2007: yes12:38
iarwain_lupul: good to hear =)12:38
lupuli just removed the secondary groups12:38
Jacko2007aleksanteri, no idea then sorry12:38
Jacko2007lol12:38
aleksanterilol i said i "unlock them but can't see the handles" :P12:38
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lupuli made a ftp server with proftpd.  i made an user with a password so that my friends could log into my computer to download stuff12:39
nicolai_iarwain_: no error. I only tried it on one file, so that might be the reason?12:39
lupulbut they could also erase files12:39
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lupulthat's why i was a little nervous12:39
dakokii got it  its system monitor from kdeaddons pack12:39
Jacko2007anyone any ideas to get my wine buttons back in the k menu?12:39
iarwain_nicolai_: you got no error, but it didn't work? strange.. can you pastebin a "ls -lah" after you executed the chown command?12:39
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iarwain_lupul: it's better to double-check stuff before letting others allowing access to your pc (or server) xD12:40
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iarwain_Jacko2007: just a dumb hunch, but could you back-up your ~/.wine and do a "wineprefixcreate"?12:41
lupuli know that now12:41
lupulthanks12:41
aleksanteriiarwain_: you have an idea?12:41
Jacko2007iarwait, english?! lol12:41
iarwain_lol =)12:41
Jacko2007iarwait, english?! lol?12:41
Jacko2007oops12:41
Jacko2007How I do that?12:41
aleksanteriiarwain_: you have any idea why handlers can't be seen although the panels are unlocked? :P12:41
iarwain_Jacko2007: so, back-up your ~/.wine, do you know how to?12:41
Jacko2007not a clue lol12:42
iarwain_aleksanteri: could be that you (or something other) disabled the handlers to be seen? could you check your desktop thing settings? (don't know the actual names, sorry)12:42
iarwain_Jacko2007: can you work with the terminal?12:42
Jacko2007I have previously12:43
iarwain_Jacko2007: you can handle terminal commands? (actually just copy-pasting, but asking to be sure)12:43
aleksanteriiarwain_: it's kinda hard to look if i don't know where :P but i'll try12:43
iarwain_aleksanteri: i'll look for it too =)12:43
Jacko2007iarwain yup12:43
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Jacko2007easy lol12:43
iarwain_Jacko2007: good, open up a terminal12:44
Jacko2007I'm there ;)12:44
iarwain_Jacko2007: cp .wine .wine_backup12:44
iarwain_Jacko2007: didn't work here, sorry12:44
aleksanterifound it!12:44
aleksanteri! *12:44
Jacko2007cp: omitting directory `.wine'12:44
Flamzarthas anyone here had an issue with ktorrent where it crashed when a new torrent was added becasue there was a problem with the tempory downlaod directory12:44
iarwain_Jacko2007: ad a -R to the cp command12:45
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iarwain_aleksanteri: so it's solved?12:45
aleksanteriyeah12:45
iarwain_aleksanteri: great =)12:45
aleksanteriiarwain_: panel settings -> look -> advanced settings12:45
Jacko2007so cd -R...?12:45
aleksanteriit's there12:45
aleksanteri:)12:45
iarwain_Jacko2007: cp -R12:45
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iarwain_aleksanteri: great to hear it works =)12:45
aleksanteri:)12:45
nicolai_iarwain_: it told me I had access, but KDE claimed otherwise12:46
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Jacko2007it's doing something12:46
Tiwazhello, just a question, because I don't know if the problem is global or for my config : In Konqueror (filemanager mode), when your cursor is on a file, a description appear (in yellow). If you move your mouse and then, the description disappear, so, I have a ?refresh(very fast redraw of all icon)? effect on the konqueror windows.12:46
iarwain_nicolai_: sooooo, you tried with the sudo before your command right?12:46
Jacko2007done12:46
iarwain_Jacko2007: great12:46
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nicolai_iarwain_: After I unmounted/remounted it seems like KDE also accepts me as owner12:46
iarwain_Jacko2007: now do a "wineprefixcreate"12:46
Jacko2007iarwain it's doing it12:47
iarwain_nicolai_: is it solved then? (don't really understand)12:47
iarwain_Jacko2007: good12:47
Jacko2007err:module:import_dll Library vct3216.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\vct3216.acm") not found12:47
Jacko2007/home/oliver/.wine updated successfully.12:47
Jacko2007err:module:import_dll Library vct3216.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\vct3216.acm") not found12:47
Jacko2007/home/oliver/.wine updated successfully.12:47
Jacko2007oops sorry for double post12:47
iarwain_Jacko2007: can you check your menu now? (don't worry =) )12:47
Jacko2007not there12:47
nicolai_iarwain_: jep. I only need to know if this works for subdirectories as well12:47
JohnFlux!scim12:48
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM12:48
iarwain_nicolai_: jup, that's why there's a "-R" to the command =)12:48
nicolai_iarwain_: I have a bad history of rushing commands :P12:48
nicolai_ahh12:48
nicolai_ok12:48
iarwain_nicolai_: so basically you just "sudo chown -R nicolai:nicolai dir_name"12:48
iarwain_nicolai_: rofl xD12:48
Jacko2007iarwain where is the actual aplication name?12:48
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Jacko2007application file*12:49
iarwain_Jacko2007: of what ? don't understand ;o12:49
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Jacko2007like in windows it has a .exe file12:49
Jacko2007does linuxhave the same thing?12:49
nicolai_iarwain_: I really appreciate your help. this problem had me up all night in frustration. Thanks :)12:49
SlimeyPeteJacko2007: application executables are usually stored in either /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin12:49
iarwain_nicolai_: no problem, i know how frustrating those things can be ^^ ( i just lost about 200GB of data -_-' )12:50
SlimeyPetethose directories are the equivalent of Windows' "Program Files"12:50
Jacko2007thanks12:50
nicolai_iarwain_: That is roughly the same amount I thought I had lost yesterday. :/12:51
iarwain_nicolai_: damn .. well, i'm trying to get it back actually =)12:51
Jacko2007I was easier when I hd my k menu shortcut12:51
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iarwain_Jacko2007: what also could be a problem is that KDE needs to be restarted (not really sure about that one, but it's a guess)12:52
Jacko2007I will try that12:52
nicolai_iarwain_: in my case it was because i lost read access (something with recursive chmod) to all these files i didn't own.12:52
iarwain_nicolai_: you lucky ** xD i lost a partition and my /etc/ files ;o12:53
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haydar_hmm12:54
haydar_something strange happend12:54
haydar_the xorg conf12:54
haydar_reset the screenresolution 2 640x48012:55
haydar_dont know why12:55
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haydar_after reboot12:55
haydar_i fixed it again -.-12:55
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iarwain_haydar_: just a dumb question, but did you edit as root? and saved it?12:55
sylaranyone programs Delphi?12:56
Jacko2007didn't work12:56
haydar_sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:56
haydar_thats why i typed12:56
haydar_sudo = root?12:56
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iarwain_haydar_: jup, correct12:57
lupuldoes anyone know how do i start a program on the target machine via ssh?12:57
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haydar_Just stange xD12:57
Jacko2007iarwain: didn't work :(12:57
iarwain_lupul: what program would you like to start? graphical, terminal, .. ?12:57
lupulgraphical12:57
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iarwain_Jacko2007: am thinking about it =)12:57
lupulktorrent oftenly dies. so i'd like to start it from work12:57
iarwain_lupul: do a ssh -X server_name12:57
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iarwain_lupul: that way the graphical window is started on your machine, and not on the server12:58
lupulbut i want to start it on the server12:58
iarwain_Jacko2007: what about this? http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2007-February/035957.html12:59
haydar_Hmm got a problem with playing music12:59
haydar_i got music on the network12:59
lupulat home i have feisty. and i leave it to download but ktorrent dies after about 30 minutes.  so i want to start it again from another place12:59
haydar_when i open it with vlc12:59
haydar_or amarok12:59
haydar_i dont have any sound12:59
haydar_nor the file plays12:59
iarwain_lupul: problem is, (haven't found a fix for that aswell) if you close your ssh-session, the program will close aswell12:59
lupulaham....12:59
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iarwain_haydar_: can you start vlc via terminal, and see if you get any errors?01:00
haydar_lets see01:00
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haydar_hmm wt01:02
haydar_f01:02
Jacko2007iarwain, I get what it says but I can't do it if that makes sense01:02
haydar_now it works01:02
haydar_via terminal01:02
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iarwain_Jacko2007: why can't you do it? (do you know what to do?)01:03
Jacko2007no01:03
iarwain_haydar_: so now you are able to play sound etc?01:03
Jacko2007I read it01:03
Jacko2007I know what I want I jus can't find where wine.menu is01:03
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iarwain_Jacko2007: did you add the menu item? (editing the K-menu)01:04
Jacko2007no01:04
haydar_yep01:04
Jacko2007I lost the k menu icon01:04
haydar_it plays01:04
haydar_without a error01:04
Jacko2007that's my problem01:05
iarwain_haydar_: can you try without terminal now? =)01:05
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haydar_Ok lets see01:05
iarwain_Jacko2007: so you don't have ANY menu now?01:05
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Jacko2007I have a menu01:05
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Jacko2007I'm just missing the wine section01:05
haydar_it plays01:05
haydar_<301:05
Jacko2007like just the wine section01:05
Jacko2007like just wine01:06
Jacko2007(sorry if you can't make sense of that it made sense in my head)01:06
iarwain_Jacko2007: well, i don't have a wine menu aswell, but i don't have any programs installed..01:06
iarwain_haydar_: nwly ^^01:06
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haydar_well01:06
haydar_sound is really01:06
haydar_low01:06
iarwain_haydar_: in vlc?01:06
haydar_i Puted on max01:06
xlinux_you wont until you install a game01:07
haydar_and bass is also01:07
haydar_cracking01:07
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Jacko2007I don't mean a wine menu01:07
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Jacko2007I meant like I don't have the link to run Wine01:07
Jacko2007at all01:07
metehi, have I to unplug all of my usb devices before boot??? because my usb drive stop responding when boot with usb devices plugged01:07
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xlinux_its not graphical01:07
iarwain_haydar_: that's a known thing, just set your vlc sound to about half (or just beneath it) and turn up your speakers01:07
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haydar_thx01:08
xlinux_type 'wine regedit' in the terminal01:08
haydar_but01:08
haydar_still01:08
haydar_sound is really01:08
haydar_low01:08
haydar_i putted on max01:08
haydar_@ kmix01:08
iarwain_mete: it could be (if your bios supported booting from usb)01:08
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asdfhi, after having a system crash, kde decoration and toolbar disappeared. Even rebooting they don't appear. What could be the problem?01:08
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iarwain_haydar_: can't you turn up your speakers with a actual button (a hardware button so to speak)01:08
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angasulewhat's that program that allows one to configure KDE so that it uses more/less resources?01:08
meteno, my bios to old to support booting :D01:09
asdfwhat is the app that can restore the window decoration and toolbar, btw?01:09
metethnx iarwain_01:09
aleksanteriasdf: kwin01:09
iarwain_mete: lol, then i don't know what could be causing the problem. Maybe you can try to boot in verbose mode?01:09
xlinux_angasule, havent heard of that01:09
aleksanteriasdf: you might want to create a desktop launcher for that :P01:09
Jacko2007how do I execute wine programs for teminal01:10
asdfaleksanteri, thanks, but, what about the toolbar?01:10
xlinux_Jacko2007: did the wine registry show up?01:10
metehmm01:10
iarwain_Jacko2007: wine path_to_program01:10
Jacko2007xlinux_ yes01:10
aleksanteriasdf: sec01:10
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Jacko2007iarwain that doesn't work01:10
asdfaleksanteri, the desktop launcher exists :). The problem it's that it doesn't work as expected01:10
aleksanterioh01:11
meteuhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: host system error, PCI problems?01:11
iarwain_Jacko2007: what do you get as error?01:11
meteuhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: host controller halted, very bad!01:11
iarwain_mete: ;o that's over my head =) sorry01:11
Jacko2007wine '/home/oliver/Desktop/SteamInstall.msi' exec01:11
Jacko2007wine: could not load L"Z:\\home\\oliver\\Desktop\\SteamInstall.msi": Bad EXE format for01:11
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mete:D no problem, thnx 4 help01:11
asdfsec? what is sec?01:11
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xlinux_you have to run the exe dont you?01:12
asdfi don't have it installed. But... kde toolbar was working without "sec" before :P01:12
angasuleasdf: I believe he means 'wait a second'01:12
iarwain_Jacko2007: i don't know if msi is supported ;o01:12
Jacko2007damn01:12
Jacko2007I need to sintalling steam01:12
asdfangasule... oops, hehe01:12
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Jacko2007nvm then I will attack it again tommorow01:13
xlinux_larwain... where is the exe's stored again? i dont have wine on this insstall01:13
sylardelphi in linux, anyone?01:14
xlinux_isnt it like .wine > path-to-prog01:14
llpCould anyone tell me of a good irc client to use? I am using Konversation is it anygood is there a better one to use?>01:14
iarwain_xlinux_: in ~/.wine/drive_c/01:14
xlinux_yeah.. thats it01:14
iarwain_xlinux_: just 'wine path_to_program/programname' is enough =)01:14
angasulellp: I find konversation to be an excellent irc client for chatting, or do you want a bot or something?01:15
xlinux_what exactly is an msi?01:15
iarwain_sylar: don't know anything about it, sorry01:15
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iarwain_xlinux_: another kind of Microsoft's executables (i think it's more of a compressed file)01:15
llpangasule: just want a nice easy irc client to use - this seems very basic imo01:15
angasulexlinux_: microsoft installer?01:15
nicolai_iarwain_: My only problem now is that I have no idea what to do with the 'lost+found' folder (ext3-drive). Do you know how priviledges etc should be for that?01:16
iarwain_nicolai_: checking =)01:16
angasulellp: what do you want to do?01:16
iarwain_nicolai_: lost+found is root:root on my pc01:16
llpangasule: just for chatting what about all the different color text etc01:17
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nicolai_iarwain_: and permissions? read write etc.?01:17
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iarwain_anyone know of a program that searches your hard-drive for partitions? ( i just lost a partition and qtparted crashes)01:17
asdfrestored. It appeared by pressing alt+f101:17
asdfbye people, and thank you01:17
iarwain_nicolai_: only root has read/write01:17
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nicolai_iarwain_: Have you tried the gnome version?01:19
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angasulellp: colours are evil, but I guess you can enter them manually, I haven't tried01:19
iarwain_nicolai_: hmm, don't feel like downloading ;o lemme see01:19
iarwain_nicolai_: only 2mB, trying it now01:20
nicolai_iarwain_: In my experience it works better and for 200 GB I wouldn't mind the clutter :P01:20
iarwain_nicolai_: problem is, even testdisk doesn't find my partition01:20
llpangasule: ill just stick with konversation for now - cheers for the advice01:21
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iarwain_nicolai_: rofl, gparted says my whole usb-attached hard drive is 'unallocated'01:21
nicolai_haha01:21
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iarwain_anyone know of a partition scanner or a file recovery program?01:22
aleksanterigddrescue?01:23
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iarwain_aleksanteri: how does that work?01:24
aleksanteriidk i just used apt-cache search :P01:24
iarwain_aleksanteri: rofl =)01:25
angasulewhen I tried to update from edgy to feisty, adept told me it couldn't authenticate these packages: apport apport-qt python-apport python-problem-report tzdata01:25
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EyeVisions!wave01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:29
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arthursalut  tous01:32
arthurvs savez mettre kdm en franais?01:32
aleksanteri!fr | arthur01:33
ubotuarthur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:33
jussi01!fr | arthur01:33
jussi01lol01:33
aleksanteri:P01:33
iarwain_arthur: va au K-menu, clickez sur 'System Settings'01:33
aleksanteri!fr | iarwain_01:33
aleksanteri:P01:33
ubotuiarwain_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:33
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iarwain_rofl, i can speak english =)01:34
aleksanterii know :)01:34
jussi01!en01:34
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat01:34
iarwain_!slap | aleksanteri01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:34
iarwain_=)01:34
aleksanterihah :P01:34
jussi01I win01:34
iarwain_arthur: encore ici?01:34
aleksanterijussi01: how so?01:34
rojanu /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Kevokef1201:34
aleksanteriuh01:34
jussi01!en | aleksanteri01:34
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ubotualeksanteri: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat01:34
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aleksanterijussi01: i speak english :P01:35
jussi01thats how i win... :D01:35
FOADWhen I start my musicplayer (quodlibet) I get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:831:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to create IPC semaphore" (but sound still works). However when I try to start something else that uses sound (mplayer) when quodlibet is started, it hangs at the start.  Help?01:35
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BluesKajHowdy All :)01:35
jussi01gah, kde-look is down01:36
Originooojussi01: do you know the reason?01:36
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iarwain_FOAD: try installing alsa-oss, if i remember correctly it should be able to play multiple sounds at the same time ;o01:37
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stamenhi01:37
nosrednaekimhi01:37
wsjunioris there any way to store window settings with aquamarine? like size and placement01:38
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iarwain_1337 hour!!!!!! (sorry, it's stronger then myself)01:38
jussi01Originooo: no idea...01:38
nosrednaekimwsjunior: thats in bery,and yes you can.01:38
FOADiarwain_: It is installed. :/01:38
wsjuniornosrednaekim: how?!01:38
stamencan anybody help me to configure my sound card to duplicate the sound to be 5.1. I am with Creative Live! 5.101:38
iarwain_FOAD: strange ;o don't know what could be it01:38
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FOADok01:38
wsjuniornosrednaekim: could u help me with this please?01:38
nosrednaekimits in the beryl settings manager01:38
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stamenbut can't make it work with the front surround, only center and buffer work and rear chanel01:39
BluesKajalsa can play multiple sources or multi task01:39
carlosis kde-apps.org down?01:39
wsjuniornosrednaekim: its opened but i cant find this configuration01:39
nosrednaekimwsjunior: yup just second..let me load berylmanager and see where it is01:39
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stamenBluesKaj: ok, I agree but how to configure it01:39
stamenBluesKaj: to work with all channels01:39
carlosI can't even resolve the name.. :(01:39
nosrednaekimwsjunior: what version of beryl are you running?01:40
wsjuniorberyl-core 0.2.001:40
BluesKajoh, surround sound , mine is the tv room , strictly stereo here01:40
carlosis there any good speech recognition app in kubuntu?01:41
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nosrednaekimwsjunior: ok... go into the beryl settings manager->Window management-> Set window attribs by various criteria01:41
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BluesKajok i got it, the outputs are configged independently of the inputs01:42
stamenBluesKaj: I put this in asoundrc http://rafb.net/p/KtLyHe68.html01:42
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wsjuniornosrednaekim: ok01:43
stamenbut the sound disappears after loging in, and xine says "can't find sound drivers"01:43
nosrednaekimwsjunior: its in there.. i've never done it before.. you gotta figure it out yourself... its not hard.01:43
wsjuniornosrednaekim: now how do i save window size and placement for different windows? i think it isnt possible from there.01:44
wsjuniornosrednaekim: ok, gonna try01:44
nosrednaekimwsjunior: Never having done it b4, i'm not sure... if you need more help go to #beryl01:44
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|lostbyte|!x11_forward01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x11_forward - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
|lostbyte|!x11forward01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x11forward - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
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ubunturoshow does the file md5sum.txt file on a *buntu CD help in verifying the md5 checksum01:48
ubunturos?01:48
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BluesKajstamen, try this site :http://www.pcauthority.com.au/print.aspx?CIID=21424&SIID=1001:49
stamenBluesKaj: ok01:49
sercikyesterday someone have asked a question about accessing ext3 filesystem from windows.. now i have tried a soultion very simply to do that: http://www.fs-driver.org/01:49
|lostbyte|ubunturos, by running an md5sum on the device the cd is on.01:49
nosrednaekim|lostbyte|: wht are yring to do?01:49
PhinnFortubunturos: i think there's a program in the cd that checks the md5sums in that file against the md5sums of the files on the cd01:49
|lostbyte|It has to match with the md5sum hash in the file.01:49
|lostbyte|nosrednaekim, forward x11.01:49
ubunturos|lostbyte|: aah, so, it computes a md5sum for each file and compares it with the md5sum.txt file?01:50
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ubunturosPhinnFort: in the CD? which one?01:50
nosrednaekim|lostbyte|: ok... there is a tool for that..RXDP comes to mind not sure if that is the right acronym.01:50
PhinnFortubunturos: probably a script01:50
ubunturosPhinnFort: aah, ok01:51
PhinnFortubunturos: i've never actually run it, so I01:51
PhinnFort'm not entirely sure01:51
|lostbyte|nosrednaekim, huh ? i used to enable it as usually in the ssh_config  to     ForwardX11 yes, but doest forward x11 after a server reload.01:51
ubunturos|lostbyte|: if I create a ISO of a *buntu CD, and I mount the ISO in loop, and issue a diff command for the md5sum.txt file in the ISO and that in the CD01:52
|lostbyte|yes, i run xclock from konsole after ssh.01:52
ubunturos|lostbyte|: I'm comparing the integrity of the ISO (or verifying the ISO, in other words) ?01:52
nosrednaekim|lostbyte|: oh thats the ssh -x thing..I was talking about something else01:52
ubunturosPhinnFort: ok01:52
PhinnFortubunturos: then you're comparing the files on the CD with the ones on the ISO01:53
|lostbyte|ubunturos, that is basically done when you choose to check cd at Cd boot.01:53
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ubunturosPhinnFort, |lostbyte|: so, that means, if there are no differences, the ISO and files on the CD are exactly same -- no problem has occured while creating the ISO01:54
PhinnFort|lostbyte|: he's talking about comparing two different md5sum.txt's01:54
|lostbyte|nosrednaekim, that is how i did it before, but now i get. can't open display.01:54
PhinnFortor not...01:54
ubunturosPhinnFort: no, I'm compaing the files on the CD and that within the ISO01:54
PhinnFortubunturos: you probably want the md5sum of the complete iso01:54
ubunturosPhinnFort: that's when I download it from the internet01:54
|lostbyte|ubunturos, yes, you got the idea.01:54
PhinnFortubunturos: you can have K3B do it automatically01:54
haydar_iarwin i cant01:55
haydar_its at the max01:55
ubunturosPhinnFort: ok01:55
ubunturos|lostbyte|: ok01:55
PhinnFortubunturos: there's a checkbox called "check integrity after burning" or something similar01:55
sercikHi to all!01:55
|lostbyte|PhinnFort, that takes a whole lot of time.01:55
ubunturosPhinnFort: yes, verify data01:55
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PhinnFort|lostbyte|: but it's the only way to ensure the integrity of the cd01:56
serciksomeone have installed win2k under kubuntu?? i' m not able to use a bridge on guest OS01:56
PhinnFort|lostbyte|: and it's quicker than running the in-cd tool01:56
ubunturosPhinnFort, |lostbyte|: thanks01:56
PhinnFortyw01:56
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ubunturossercik: running a virtual machine?01:57
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sercikhi ubunturos01:57
sercikyes01:57
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mohsinhi brothers01:57
InsurgentEllo01:57
serciki have succesfully installed win2k in it works audio video usb etc..01:57
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PhinnFortsercik: which virtual machine software?01:57
haydar_Anyone knows01:57
haydar_how to get volume higher01:58
sercikonly i can't find a guide simply that explain hot to create the bridge01:58
PhinnFortqemu, virtualbox, or?01:58
Yonderb0yCan someone help me out with apt-get?01:58
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mohsinhay can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu01:58
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mohsinhay can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu01:58
mohsinhay can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu01:58
mohsinhay can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu01:58
PhinnForthaydar_: there's a little speaker in the lower right corner01:58
sercikPhinnFort i have quemu and also virtualbox01:58
haydar_yep i dont mean that :P01:58
Yonderb0ymohsin, Dont fucking spam01:58
haydar_higher then possible01:58
PhinnFortsercik: and you want internet access?01:58
PhinnFort!language01:58
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:58
PhinnFort!spam01:58
sercikbut i think that my question in not especially for a software01:58
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ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)01:58
haydar_because on windows01:58
mohsinokay brother01:58
haydar_i can hear alot harder01:58
haydar_its on max already01:58
haydar_and i hear almost nothing01:58
haydar_on kubuntu01:58
PhinnForthaydar_: from what?01:58
mohsini am just asking  can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu01:58
ubunturoshaydar_: you physical speaker volume?01:59
PriceChild!enter | haydar_01:59
ubotuhaydar_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:59
LjLmohsin: not by flooding this channel01:59
PhinnFort!volume01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about volume - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
haydar_sorry01:59
LjLmohsin: *what* third party software?01:59
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|lostbyte|!apt-get > mohsin01:59
ubunturos!apt-get | mohsin01:59
ubotumohsin: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)01:59
PhinnForthaydar_: what do you use to play sound?01:59
mohsinthanks dear01:59
sercikmy question is about tun/tap and bridge i think01:59
haydar_vlc atm01:59
haydar_even the kubuntu sounds are really soft01:59
PhinnForthaydar_: have you tried other audio apps?01:59
haydar_yes02:00
PhinnForthaydar_: open the mixers02:00
PhinnForthaydar_: adjust "pcm"02:00
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haydar_ok i'll look02:00
serciki have a pc on which run a linux distribution with two networks card (eth0 internet, eth1 lan)02:00
Yonderb0yWould someone help me with apt-get? it's a  bit of a problem, so would ya mind doing it in /msg?02:00
manwithaface!kmix | haydar_02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
PhinnForthaydar_: left-click on the speaker and click "mixers"02:00
haydar_Yep i already know that :)02:00
PhinnFort!qemu02:01
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo02:01
sercikon one internal pc i have installed linux and want to install also win2k and configure a network with bridge02:01
ubunturosYouerb0y: what is the problem ?02:01
mohsinby apt-get we can just update our system from kubuntu web02:01
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PhinnFortsercik: it's usually "forwarding" you want (in realspeak;))02:01
Yonderb0yubunturos, Mind if i msg you?02:01
mohsinif i downloaded some pacakages from other web how can i install them02:01
sercikPhinnFort i don't understand what do you mean??02:01
mohsinjust like *.rpm02:02
ubunturosYounderb0y: no, but I'm not sure how good I will be in helping you out :)02:02
PhinnFortsercik: it isn't called a bridge02:02
PhinnFortsercik: and please look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo02:02
haydar_ok sound02:02
jorunnmhow do i turn up sound, when everythin is max, both in kmix and in the programme?02:02
PhinnFortsercik: and scroll down to "Networking"02:02
haydar_is better now :D02:02
|lostbyte|mohsin, dpkg -i <file.deb>02:02
manwithaface!alien | mohsin02:02
ubotumohsin: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)02:02
haydar_but xmms cant play any files on the network02:02
PhinnForthaydar_: use Amarok or Juk or Noatun02:02
Yonderb0yubunturos, I'm getting E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).02:02
PhinnFort;)02:02
haydar_;) thx02:02
haydar_for the help02:03
PhinnFortyou're welcome;)02:03
jorunnmhow do I increase the volume settings in alsa?02:03
PhinnForthaydar_: Noatun is a really nice replacement for xmms02:03
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jorunnmcan I config alsa?02:03
monziehi all02:03
haydar_does it need codecs?02:03
|lostbyte|jorunnm, alsamixer02:03
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PhinnFort!info alsa-utils | jorunnm02:03
ubotujorunnm: alsa-utils: ALSA utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.13-1ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 1026 kB, installed size 1848 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)02:03
PhinnForthaydar_: i don't believe so02:04
monziei have connected my laptop to moblie phone.. and am able to access the internet02:04
PhinnForthaydar_: but if you're serious about listening to music, I highly recommend amarok;)02:04
haydar_hmm ill try noatun02:04
haydar_Yep i'm trying with amarok02:04
ubunturosYonderb0y: ah, is your sources.lst a valid one?02:04
haydar_but it gives me an error02:04
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haydar_smb://uw-6rspzydfvpyj/Mp3/s.mp3smb://uw-6rspzydfvpyj/Mp3/s.mp302:04
haydar_thats the file i wanna play02:04
Yonderb0yubunturos, How do i check?02:04
haydar_maybe the problem @ network02:05
PhinnForthaydar_: that looks like several files02:05
monziei want to share my internet connection on my laptop with my desktop. please help.. i have pppd running on my laptop right now02:05
haydar_it only works on vlcs02:05
haydar_aah know :P copypasted 2 much02:05
ubunturosYonderb0y: are you able to get other softwares installed, apart from the one you are currently trying to?02:05
PhinnFort;)02:05
haydar_Demux-plugin02:05
haydar_error02:05
haydar_hmm02:05
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PhinnForthaydar_: i don't really know what your problem is, since amarok should be able to play it02:05
PhinnFortwith the samba-kioslave02:05
Yonderb0yubunturos, No02:06
mohsinbye02:06
sybux!vista02:06
ubotuvista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org02:06
haydar_Well i'm getting an error about demux-plugin and not supported file format02:06
haydar_with .mp3 file02:06
ubunturosYonderb0y: looks like there's a problem with the sources.lst ... in /etc/apt/02:06
Yonderb0yubunturos, i get at the top of this before that :02:06
Yonderb0y kdelibs4c2a: Depends: menu-xdg but it is not going to be installed02:06
Yonderb0y  libfontconfig1: Depends: fontconfig-config (= 2.4.2-1) but 2.4.2-1.2 is to be installed02:06
Yonderb0yand something the same about openoffice, but i don't imagine thats important02:06
monziecan someone how to do internet connection sharing in kubuntu 7.04?02:06
monzievia pppd ?02:07
ubunturosYonderb0y: :-?02:07
Yonderb0yubunturos, hmm?02:07
PhinnForthaydar_: in Noatun of Amarok?02:07
PhinnFort*or02:08
PhinnFortmonzie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing02:08
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ubunturosYonderb0y: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ - use this to generate a new sources.lst - Rename the existing to sources.lst.old and save the file generated by this webiste as your new sources.lst02:09
snamahey whats up?02:09
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ubunturosYonderb0y: that's one way to solve. If it still doesn't solve the problem of dependency, there must be some other way to solve it02:09
snamacan anyone tell me how to change the boot-up apps in KDE02:09
snama?02:10
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haydar_amarok02:10
sybuxhi02:11
ubunturoswhen you use -f with apt-get, it is instructing to fix dependencies if any02:11
sybuxI've got a little problem with vista !!!02:11
BluesKajhaydar_, make sure you have amarok-xine and amarok-engines installed02:11
sybuxit has removed grub :(02:11
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sybuxhow can I reinstall grub and keep vista working ?02:11
snamasybux you should first install linux and then windows02:11
snamathat worked for me anyway02:11
ubunturossybux: you installed vista after linux - wrong thing02:11
sybuxsnama: it was the case.02:12
BluesKajbrb, just installed tvtime , gotta relogin02:12
snamano no02:12
snamai was wrong02:12
snamathe other way02:12
Sannesnama: somme apps starting at boot can be configured in System Settings, search for "System Services"02:12
snamasorry man02:12
sybuxperhaps I'll explain my case in detail.02:13
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Sannesnama: on dapper it's under "System Administration"02:13
sybuxI was working with XP and Ubuntu very fine02:13
snamathanks02:13
Sanne:)02:13
sybuxI've then upgraded XP to vista and now, no more grub to bood ubuntu02:13
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ubunturossybux: you'll have to reinstall grub02:14
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sybuxis there a tutorial somewhere cause I've read that it's a quite hard to keep vista running02:14
MaDiNfO_hi02:14
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ubunturosfor grub - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html02:14
ubunturos^^ sybux02:15
sybuxky02:15
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Yonderb0yubunturos, hopefully it should be okay now, i hope, thanks02:15
MaDiNfO_how can i change GDM resolution ?02:15
ubunturosYonderb0y: umm, try installing a small software - may be kate - or upgrading it02:15
Yonderb0yits still not working02:16
Yonderb0ybut   kdelibs4c2a: Depends: menu-xdg but it is not installable02:16
Yonderb0y works02:16
Yonderb0yerr02:16
Yonderb0yoops02:16
ubunturosYonderb0y: :-/ is it working or it isn't?02:16
Yonderb0yapt-get -f install works02:16
ubunturosYonderb0y: ok, so it is able to find out dependencies. good02:17
Yonderb0yubunturos, thing is, its asking me to delete alot of stuff02:17
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ubunturosYonderb0y: delete what?02:17
Yonderb0yits LONG, it will be spam if i paste here02:17
BluesKaj!pastebin02:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:17
ubunturosYonderb0y: yes, see topic to paste02:17
Yonderb0ycheers BluesKaj02:17
BluesKaj:)02:18
Yonderb0yhard to find a pastebin that isn't deathly slow02:18
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ubunturosYonderb0y: pastebin.ca, probably wont' be slow ;)02:18
BluesKajYonderb0y, try pastebin.ca02:18
ubunturosBluesKaj: :)02:18
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buzsound on my notebook somehow disappeared?02:18
BluesKajwe canucks are fast02:18
ubunturosBluesKaj: canucks?02:19
Yonderb0yhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21555/ ubunturos02:19
BluesKajcanadians , = .ca02:19
buzthe intel_hda driver seems broken02:19
ubunturosBluesKaj: umm02:19
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Lynourebuz: there was a patch for it on 16th or so...02:19
BluesKajnot california02:19
buzi think that one BROKE it in the first place02:20
ubunturosYonderb0y: what are you actually trying to install02:20
buzit did work at the beginning of the week02:20
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Yonderb0yubunturos, i tried to update kate and got:02:20
Yonderb0ysquee@squee-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade kate02:20
Yonderb0yReading package lists... Done02:20
Yonderb0yBuilding dependency tree02:20
Yonderb0yReading state information... Done02:20
Yonderb0yYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.02:20
Yonderb0yThe following packages have unmet dependencies:02:20
Yonderb0y  kdelibs4c2a: Depends: menu-xdg but it is not installable02:20
Yonderb0y  openoffice.org-common: Depends: openoffice.org-style-default but it is not installed or02:20
Yonderb0y                                  openoffice.org-style-industrial but it is not installed or02:20
Yonderb0y                                  openoffice.org-style-crystal but it is not installed02:20
Lynourebuz: I don't think it is included yet, but who knows02:20
Yonderb0yE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.02:21
Yonderb0yeh, oops, didnt mean to paste ALL that02:21
|lostbyte|Yonderb0y, You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.02:21
buzLynoure: well its weird, when i installed feisty the first time it worked02:21
|lostbyte|:)02:21
Yonderb0y|lostbyte|, ... read above...02:21
Lynourebuz: it's certainly not in ubuntu yet, I think02:21
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buzthen what could have happened?02:21
LynoureBut gotta go now02:22
Yonderb0y|lostbyte|, When i try that it wants to install alot of stuff02:22
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Yonderb0yuninstall*02:22
rojanuHi! When I start knetworkmanager as normal user wireless card doesn't show up but it does as root, any ideas?02:22
MaDiNfO_how can i change KDM resulution ?02:23
MaDiNfO_how can i change KDM resulution ?02:23
ubunturosYonderb0y: "sudo apt-get -f upgrade kate "didnt' work?02:23
Yonderb0yfuckit, ubunturos do you think i should do it and hope for hte best?02:23
jaddo not spam02:23
Yonderb0yubunturos, no, it gave what i pasted02:23
ubunturosYonderb0y: any chance to use Adpet?02:24
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haydar_I got amarok-engine installed02:24
|lostbyte|Yonderb0y, it will remove and install dependency updates.02:24
haydar_and stuff02:24
haydar_still no sound02:24
haydar_mp302:24
Yonderb0y|lostbyte|, did you read my pastebin?02:24
haydar_it wont play02:25
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Yonderb0yubunturos, As far as i can tell i don't have it.02:25
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ubunturosYonderb0y: Is your distro Kubuntu 6.06 or greater?02:25
Yonderb0yHmm, how can i check?02:25
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SanneYonderb0y:  lsb_release -a02:26
haydar_i'm getting an error if i startup noatun02:26
haydar_about arts02:26
haydar_that it failed  to start or load02:26
Yonderb0yNo LSB modules are available.02:26
Yonderb0yDistributor ID: Ubuntu02:26
Yonderb0yDescription:    Ubuntu 6.1002:26
Yonderb0yRelease:        6.1002:26
Yonderb0yCodename:       edgy02:26
ubunturosYonderb0y: so, you should have Add/Remove Applications in the Applications menu02:27
Yonderb0y=/02:27
Yonderb0yI'm on fluxbox02:27
Yonderb0ySo what would i have to run?02:27
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ubunturosYonderb0y: donno, I have used only GNOME to an extent and am running KDE currently02:27
BluesKajhaydar_, have you checked system settings/sound/hardware/select audio device/advanced linux sound architecture ?02:27
haydar_Hmm lets check,02:28
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Yonderb0yWhy does it say i'm using Ubuntu if i'm using Kubuntu?02:28
ubunturosYonderb0y: Ubuntu is the base system. Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE02:28
Yonderb0yah02:28
haydar_BluesKaj02:28
haydar_its on autodetect02:28
ubunturosYonderb0y: same for Xubuntu - with XFCE02:28
BluesKajKubuntu uses the KDE desktop , Ubuntu uses Gnome desktop02:28
Yonderb0yCan you get  ubuntu that comes with Fluxbox?02:29
llp78haydar_: mine on auto too02:29
NiceGuyUKFlubuntu?02:29
Yonderb0yIncase i reinstall02:29
BluesKajhaydar_,change it to alsa02:29
ubunturosNiceGuyUK: :)02:29
haydar_okay02:29
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haydar_done02:29
Yonderb0ythanks NiceGuyUK02:29
ubunturosYonderb0y: install Kubuntu - and likely, your issues will be resolved ;)02:29
haydar_now Noatun works02:29
NiceGuyUKYonderb0y: was a joke, no such thing that I know of02:29
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BluesKajok, try amarok too02:30
haydar_But it wont play a file02:30
haydar_i select the file but02:30
Yonderb0yNiceGuyUK, errr, i googled it02:30
haydar_nothing happens02:30
Yonderb0ywikipedia thinks there is =/02:30
ubunturosYonderb0y: and if you can install *buntu from a DVD - much better02:30
NiceGuyUKreally? I'll have to look02:30
NiceGuyUKlol02:30
SanneYonderb0y: there's actually this (unofficial) http://fluxbuntu.org/02:30
haydar_got the same on amarok02:30
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haydar_smb://uw-6rspzydfvpyj/Mp3/s.mp302:30
llp78haydar_: when you click test sound in sound system general tab does it play sound02:30
haydar_thats the path02:30
haydar_yes02:31
haydar_it plays02:31
llp78ok ill shut up then :p02:31
haydar_xD02:31
Yonderb0yFUCK02:31
Yonderb0yi clicked yes anyway02:31
Yonderb0yits uninstall konquorer!02:31
Yonderb0ybollocks!02:31
PriceChild!ohmy | Yonderb0y #02:31
ubotuYonderb0y #: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:31
BluesKajhaydar_, start a player from the terminal and paste the errors in pastebin02:31
LjL!language02:31
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Yonderb0ylooks like ima need to get a reinstall soon02:31
haydar_Ok02:31
Yonderb0y...02:31
haydar_Blueskaj02:32
haydar_i started amarok02:32
LjLYonderb0y: how exactly did you manage to remove konqueror...?02:32
ubunturosYonderb0y: do it from a DVD :) - suggestin02:32
sybuxubunturos: I've run what was written on your web site, but I still have only vista and no gurb :(02:32
ubunturossuggestion*02:32
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haydar_with terminal02:32
haydar_but there are no errors02:32
Yonderb0yLjL, sudo apt-get -f install02:32
haydar_only thing i get is an error message in amarok02:32
Yonderb0yubuntulog, can't02:32
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ubunturossybux: not my website, heh. You need to install Grub..02:32
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Yonderb0yWhats the difference from DVD?02:32
LjLYonderb0y: well once the problems that led you to doing the -f install are fixed, you should be able to get everything back to normal (including konqueror) with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"02:32
haydar_something about nonsupported file or demux-plugin02:33
haydar_strange..02:33
sybuxubunturos: I've done it : root then setup in grub shell02:33
ubunturosYonderb0y: you'll have a lot of additional packages that you can install without accessing the internet or troubling yourself with apt-get02:33
ubunturossybux: and grub is not installed? :-/02:33
LjLwell, it's not like you don't need to download the whole DVD to start with, though :)02:33
sybuxnope :(02:33
Yonderb0yubunturos, Don't have a DVD drive. :(02:33
ubunturosYonderb0y: oh, ok02:34
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Yonderb0yHmm, i'm using fluxbox, so i COULD go without the KDU stuff its uninstalling, right?02:34
haydar_Wait maybe i fixed it02:34
haydar_ok fixed :D02:34
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LjLYonderb0y: i guess so02:35
Yonderb0y:D02:35
Yonderb0yIDk what i will do without kopete though.02:35
LjLYonderb0y: just make sure you have the relevant metapackage for your distribution installed... i don't know which one that is with fluxbox/fluxbuntu whatever02:35
LjLwell just reinstall kopete02:35
ubunturossybux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 - see, if this helps02:35
Yonderb0ySounds like a plan02:35
Yonderb0yLjL, Metapackage?02:35
LjL!metapackage02:35
ubotuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.02:35
LjL!ubuntu-desktop02:35
ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.02:35
Yonderb0yerrr02:36
Yonderb0yits removing console...02:36
Yonderb0yWhat will i do then....02:36
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LjLconsole?02:36
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RytmenPinnenHi, How do I play DVD's?02:36
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LjL!dvd02:36
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:36
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ubunturossybux: or even this - http://my.opera.com/Mr Green/blog/show.dml/22480302:36
ubunturossybux: eeks, copy paste the URL02:37
rojanuHi! When I start knetworkmanager as normal user wireless card doesn't show up but it does as root, any ideas?02:37
sybux^02:37
ubunturossybux: what?02:38
NiceGuyUKIn Konsole, how can I get it to recognise ALT as the META key correctly ?02:38
sybuxmiss sorry02:38
NiceGuyUK/ws 302:39
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manwithafaceDoes anyone know how to rebuild initramfs from a LiveCD?02:40
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|lostbyte|manwithaface, no guides online ?02:41
manwithafacei haven't seen any02:41
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manwithafaceintelikey was helping me yesterday, but i haven't seen him since02:42
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manwithafaceevreything I can find involves being able to boot into the system you need to rebuild initramfs on02:42
manwithafaceeverything*02:42
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haydar_Anyone know how to minimize02:42
haydar_fullscreened games02:42
RytmenPinnenhmm, I dont get it02:42
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haydar_>_<02:42
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dragonhello all02:43
manwithafaceis there anyway around initramfs?02:43
dragoni need help configurating my ethernet lan with kubuntu, can you help me?02:43
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Keenhi does anyone have a functioning wacom tablet here?02:44
|lostbyte|haydar_, depends on the game.02:44
Keeni cant seem to get mine to work...02:44
|lostbyte|dragon, use knetworkmanager02:45
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lucahi everyone02:45
Ayabaraafter testing gnome & kde I've landed on kde. is there a way to remove the gnome packages that clutter my install? the packages that "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" would add on a clean kubuntu installation.02:45
|lostbyte|manwithaface, know very little on the topic, i found this : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Initramfs02:46
lucadoes anyone know at which point the development of the new kwin is?02:46
RytmenPinnenhow do I add those sources?02:46
RytmenPinnenIt says deb is not a command02:46
dragon|lostbyte|: i am already using knetwork02:46
NiceGuyUKAyabara: www.psychocats.net/PureGnome I think02:46
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manwithaface|lostbyte| thanks, checking now02:46
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|lostbyte|dragon, what seem to be the problem ?02:47
dragon|lostbyte|: i have a second ethernet controller02:47
lucaAyabara, I think that removing the libgtk should do the work02:47
NiceGuyUKAyabara: thats http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome02:47
NiceGuyUKsorry for wrong link first time ;)02:47
dragon|lostbyte|: and i connected it with a NAS gigabit, using a cross cable02:47
AyabaraNiceGuyUK: thanks a lot :-)02:48
dragon|lostbyte|: the NAS has static ip 10.10.10.1002:48
|lostbyte|dragon, k02:48
RytmenPinnenhow do I add repositorys? I want to play a DVD02:48
dragon|lostbyte|: i can't make my pc use the second controller to reach the NAS02:48
|lostbyte|!EasySource | RytmenPinnen02:48
ubotuRytmenPinnen: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:48
dragon|lostbyte|: when i use ping 10.10.10.1002:48
RytmenPinnenaha02:48
dragon|lostbyte|: i can't ping it02:48
haydar_Anyone got a sort like website f02:49
haydar_of02:49
haydar_kde-look.org02:49
AyabaraNiceGuyUK: except. you should've postet the purekde link instead ;-)02:49
|lostbyte|dragon, huh, you should look into the route command, that defines what interface it will use primarily.02:49
NiceGuyUKAyabara: lol, yeah, good point02:49
dragon|lostbyte|: and knetwork says me invalid gateway ... but i dunno what to write in gateway cause there is no router ... it is a point to point connection02:49
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sybuxubuntulog: I've find a very good tuto : http://apcmag.com/5045/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux02:50
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sybuxIn fact in vista, you can't write grub on the mbr. You need to use the bootloader of vista to switch02:50
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haydar_anyone?02:51
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sybuxhaydar_: yep I've got02:51
haydar_:P link02:52
|lostbyte|dragon, is this for accessing the Internet on the other interface ?02:52
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|lostbyte|haydar_, i did't get you ?02:52
lucaAyabara I repeat myself - if you do not want gnome, remove the multiple libgtk with adept :)02:52
haydar_Anyone got a sort like website of02:53
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haydar_kde-look.org02:53
haydar_its down02:53
sybuxhaydar_: sorry. kde-???.org website are all down02:53
haydar_i'm searching alternative :p02:53
haydar_:'(02:53
stamenhi02:53
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stamenwho has a working configuration with 5.1 sound02:53
lucaAyabara: it should remove practically everything regarding Gnome02:53
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RytmenPinnensudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh02:53
Ayabaraluca: ah thanks. I didn't see the first post.02:53
RytmenPinnen"command not found"02:53
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RytmenPinnenhelp02:53
stamenits prefered to be using emu10k1 driver02:53
AyabaraI've got to setup konversation better...02:53
|lostbyte|haydar_, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=related:www.kde-look.org/02:53
Keencan anyone tell me why my wacom doesnt turn on...02:53
Keenwhen i connect it to the usb02:54
Keenit turns on for a while02:54
Keenthen it switches off02:54
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Keenanyone know whats wrong?02:54
Keenmy graphics tablet02:54
sybuxhow can I switch to my real system drive when I started from a live CD ?02:54
lucaAyabara: but be careful! I mean, if you choose this option you will remove A LOT of things02:54
|lostbyte|Keen, we will need more info on the model make and application being used to access it. Though i know very little on webcam config.02:54
lucaAyabara: so select every package singularly and check what would be removed02:54
BluesKajstamen, I know this is an obvious question , but I ve to ask. Have you looked at the surround settings in 'alsamixer' ?02:54
Keenmmm02:55
lucaAyabara 'preview changes' with adept will do the trick :)02:55
Keenits a wacom intuos 302:55
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RytmenPinnen!FVF02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fvf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
RytmenPinnen!DVD02:55
stamenwhere to look there02:55
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:55
Keengraphics tablet =P02:55
stamenthere is no option for enabling it02:55
|lostbyte|:D02:55
haydar_>:D02:55
stamenor it not works corectrly02:55
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|lostbyte|Keen, i miss read.02:55
BluesKajstamen, in the terminal type alsamixer02:55
Keen=)02:55
stamenBluesKaj: I try the link which you gave me, but nothing02:55
Keenbut02:55
RytmenPinnenhelp02:55
Keenit just turns back off02:55
RytmenPinnenI still cant play DVD's02:56
Keenwhen i just turn connect it02:56
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Ayabaraluca: ok. I have a feeling that NiceGuyUK's link will work out good as well. I think I have done the same procedure once before, on Edgy.02:56
RytmenPinnensudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh ----> Command not found02:56
poncepil#eurix02:56
stamenBluesKaj: befeore everything I want to tell you that the front channel only has a sound like ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss02:56
lucaAyabara good then good luck :D02:56
stamenBluesKaj: and no sound of music02:56
Ayabaraluca: thanks. hope I won't need it :-)02:56
luca:)02:57
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dragon|lostbyte|: ok i managed it myself02:57
BluesKajstamen, did you open a terminal and type in '  alsamixer '  ?02:57
dragon|lostbyte|: this is my situation02:57
|lostbyte|dragon, k02:57
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dragon|lostbyte|: internet - eth1 - pc - eth2 - NAS02:57
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stamenBluesKaj: yes02:58
|lostbyte|RytmenPinnen, did you install libdvdread302:58
RytmenPinnensudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh ----> Command not found02:58
RytmenPinnenyes02:58
dragon|lostbyte|: eth1 is DHCP and it makes me go in internet02:58
|lostbyte|k02:58
dragoneth2 is static and it makes me comunicate with NAS 10.10.10.10 (i am 10.10.10.12)02:58
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dragoncan i use both of them like in windows ? at the moment i can select only one of them at time02:59
llp78I had vista running on sdc1 & decided to install Kubuntu onto a seperate drive - Now everytime I boot up a get the grub menu but NO option to load windows vista - can I save vista and have a duel booting system02:59
stamenBluesKaj: and..02:59
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sybuxhow can I switch to my real system drive when I started from a live CD ?02:59
RytmenPinnenand I cant seem to find a place to get libdvdcss202:59
BluesKajnow stamen , any slgers tha have 00 are open , highlight with the arrow key and type M in the ones that indicate MM02:59
dragoni can use internet OR use NAS , i can't navigate and use NAS at the same time02:59
BluesKajstamen, so that they change to 0003:00
dragon|lostbyte|: what can i do?03:00
stamenBluesKaj: ok03:00
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stamenBluesKaj: have I enable IEC95803:01
|lostbyte|dragon, what does route say ?03:01
dragon|lostbyte|: i think the name of the thing i want to do is 'bond' but i really dunno what it means03:02
dragon|lostbyte|: lemme check03:02
RytmenPinnenhelp03:02
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RytmenPinnen!fixadept03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:02
dragonroutes says Default gatewate 0.0.0.0 Device Eth203:02
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RytmenPinnen!aptfix03:02
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:02
dragon|lostbyte|: routes says Default gatewate 0.0.0.0 Device Eth203:03
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RytmenPinnenthat didnt help03:03
stamenBluesKaj: good I have enabled them, but the front channel is little bit silent03:03
Elisethhello everyone03:03
stamenBluesKaj: when it is on max03:03
|lostbyte|dragon, can you access the internet ?03:03
RytmenPinnenhow do I shutdown adept manager?03:04
dragon|lostbyte|: atm yes :)03:04
dragon|lostbyte|: i am using Konversation so i guess i can :)03:04
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|lostbyte|dragon, can you ping 10.10.10.1003:05
|lostbyte|?03:05
RytmenPinnenit says its still running and I cant turn it on again, It happened after i tried to add the repositorys where I get libdvdcss203:05
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dragon|lostbyte|: no, i can't03:05
r__hello anyone here able to help me with KNode ?03:05
dragon|lostbyte|: to ping 10.10.10.10 i have to select eth2 first03:05
|lostbyte|dragon, pm the output of ifconfig03:05
dragon|lostbyte|: that's the problem, i can use only one of them at time03:05
RytmenPinneni tried the command !aptfix gave me but it didnt help03:05
BluesKajok, stamen , go to this site to setup alsa properly : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)03:05
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stamenBluesKaj: ok, 10x03:06
dragon|lostbyte|: if i select eth2 with knetwork i can ping 10.10.10.10 but can't navigate in internet or speak with you in Konversation03:06
RytmenPinnenhow do I shutdown adept manager if it has crashed and is still running?03:07
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dragoneth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:8D:94:F1:9703:07
RytmenPinnenit says its still running and I cant turn it on again, It happened after i tried to add the repositorys where I get libdvdcss203:07
dragon          inet addr:23.254.211.202  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.248.003:07
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dragon          inet6 addr: fe80::250:8dff:fe94:f197/64 Scope:Link03:07
r__hello anyone here able to help me with KNode ?03:07
RytmenPinneni tried the command !aptfix gave me but it didnt help03:07
dragon          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:103:07
dragon          RX packets:17351 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:003:07
|lostbyte|RytmenPinnen, ctrl + alt + esc03:07
KartiHi all03:07
dragon          TX packets:16322 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:003:07
dragon          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100003:07
|lostbyte|RytmenPinnen, and click on the window.03:07
dragon          RX bytes:12447549 (11.8 MiB)  TX bytes:1737062 (1.6 MiB)03:07
dragon          Interrupt:16 Base address:0x400003:07
dragoneth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:17:20:B7:7103:07
RytmenPinnenno but its sort of running in the background somwhere03:07
dragon          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:103:07
dragon          RX packets:217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:003:07
dragon          TX packets:493 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:003:07
dragon          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100003:07
dragon          RX bytes:163552 (159.7 KiB)  TX bytes:69064 (67.4 KiB)03:07
dragon          Base address:0x7f00 Memory:fd4e0000-fd50000003:07
|lostbyte|dragon, pm = Private message.03:08
|lostbyte|:D03:08
RytmenPinnenlol03:08
dragon|lostbyte|: sorry xD03:08
RytmenPinnendamnit now im getting annoyed with ubuntu again03:08
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|lostbyte|RytmenPinnen, then killall adept03:08
BluesKajstamen, actually this page will help even more : http://alsa.opensrc.org/Main_Page03:09
RytmenPinnentried that allready03:09
BluesKaj!pastebin | dragon03:09
ubotudragon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:09
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RytmenPinnenhmm I had this problem when I first installed kubuntu too03:10
RytmenPinnenand where do I find libdvdcss2?03:10
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KartiHi all....graphics question - When I boot up my resolution is huge but when I log in it becomes normal at 1280 x 1028 does anyone have any advice to set my initial login screen resolutions?03:11
RytmenPinnen!dvd03:11
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:11
gemidjycan i grep for binary character within a file (i.e. feff ?)03:12
BluesKajRytmenPinnen, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/03:12
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sercikKarti: i have the same problem it seems like a virtual screen bigger than normal screen (for example in laptop when you select a resoluttion bigger than supported)03:12
Ayabara"After unpacking 1154MB disk space will be freed". I'm scared...03:12
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Kartisercik: It appears to be the first time I have had this really. It may only have happened when I added VM tools03:13
KartiI can survive but I may try it on a clone to see what the difference is, I just thought there may be a setting in the x server03:14
RytmenPinnenBluesKaj isnt that for edgy eft?03:14
RytmenPinnennm03:15
BluesKajjust replace the edgy with feisty in the repos name03:16
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RytmenPinnenwhy cant they have the libdvcss2 codecs in the official repositories?03:20
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BluesKajlegal issues03:20
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AyabaraI need some help. When boot/login I need to run a couple of commands. I need to wait 15 seconds, then run "feh --bg-scale `dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface currentWallpaper 1`", followed by starting conky. How can I make a script that does this, and how do I make kde run it?03:22
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Trickserhi, i updated edgy to feisty but i am having problems with my old Nvidia Geforce 440 card.03:24
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TrickserIt seems to be a conflict in linux-restricted-modules with the new nvidia modules03:25
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stamenBluesKaj: thank you very much, I adjust all03:36
stamen:)03:36
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BluesKajcool, stamen  :)03:37
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Tm_Thi kids03:40
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Tm_TTrickser: hmm, you need mid-series nvidia drivers I think03:41
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Bojemoin03:45
diegodlhI'm wondering whether anyone can help me with this. I'm using KNetworManager on Kubuntu 7.04 and I wanted to know if there is a way to save a WPA password other than KWallet. I'm not the only one who uses this PC and, even though I want anyone using it to be able to connect to the wireless network, I don't want to give them the chance of viewing the password through kwallet. Can anyone help me??03:46
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TrickserTm_T: mid-series, do you mean the legacy driver?03:47
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Tm_TTrickser: no, there's legacy (old) normal and new, IIRC 440 belongs to normal03:49
Tm_TTrickser: but you can try legacy too, shouldn't harm03:49
TrickserI will try now and let you know...03:49
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Cugel2/qiot03:50
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BlackBsddoes the knetwork manager use wpa_suplicant for wireless configuration??03:53
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BlackBsdis there some .conf file which holds the settings?03:53
Edulixhi!03:53
Tm_TBlackBsd: does knetworkmanager help tell anything?03:53
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Edulixnetwork manager can't find my wifi card (but it works from command line)03:54
EdulixI have an atheros, with madwifi03:54
manwithafaceEdulix: you need to delete all of your data for that interfaces from your /etc/network/interfaces file03:55
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Edulixmanwithaface: why oh why? that's what I use to configure my network :P03:55
manwithafacenetwork manager cannot manager when it is being controlled by something else03:55
Edulixah ok so that's the problem?03:55
EdulixI'll do a backup03:55
Tm_TI rather would move it away, not remove ;)03:55
manwithafacegood plane03:55
manwithafaceplan*03:55
manwithafaceor rename03:56
Tm_Tbackups <303:56
BlackBsdno, i wanted to take some file on ubuntu and use it on another distro03:56
Tm_Tmanwithaface: it's moving03:56
BlackBsdb/c the wireless works in kbuntu03:56
Edulixmanwithaface: commenting it is enough?03:56
manwithafaceshould be03:57
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Edulixmanwithaface: okay, now /etc/init.d/networking restart should work or what do I need to do? (no reboot please)03:58
manwithafaceEdulix: you might need to restart NetworkManager03:58
Edulixno reboot because I'm compiling hehe03:58
manwithafacelol03:58
manwithafacesudo killall NetworkManager03:58
manwithafacethen sudo NetworkManager03:58
Edulixmanwithaface: networkmanagerdispatcher killed04:00
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Edulixmanwithaface: it still doesn't show any info for my card04:00
Edulixnote that sometime ago it worked..04:00
manwithafacehad you changed config by command line?04:00
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Edulixbut it just stopped working once without any good explanation..04:00
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EdulixI don't remember, I think not04:01
Edulixups04:01
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llp78how can I find an unmounted drive in the terminal04:02
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llp78whats the command04:02
alexiconmy version of amarok doesnt want to play streams. says a codec is missing, any idea what?04:02
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alexiconamarok 1.4.504:02
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alexiconllp78: you can have a look with ls /dev/ itll show you all available devices. or if its something you just plugged in use dmesg04:04
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llp78alexicon thanks the ls /dev does the job04:04
alexiconok04:04
GrahamWhat's a good sound converting utility, also what do I need to convert wma to ogg?04:05
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GrahamHello?04:11
tsdgeoshi04:11
PhinnFort!hi | Graham04:12
ubotuGraham: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:12
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GrahamWhat's a good sound converting utility, also what do I need to convert wma to ogg?04:12
PhinnFortis it possible to see what kind of RAM i have?04:12
PhinnFortGraham: mencoder04:12
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PhinnFortGraham: there's several frontends and scripts to do it automatically04:12
PhinnFort!info dir2ogg | Graham04:12
ubotugraham: dir2ogg: audio file converter into ogg-vorbis format. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 76 kB04:12
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GrahamThanks.04:13
alexiconwhat codecs does amarok need to do music streaming?04:13
PhinnFortyw04:13
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alexicon!amarok streaming04:15
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PhinnFort!streaming04:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:15
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aleksanteriyay kde-look is up again \o/04:17
PhinnForthurrayh04:17
PhinnFortalexicon: i can play streams04:17
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alexiconhrm04:18
alexiconit doesnt like my last.fm streams now for some reason04:18
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llp78the comand i needed was sudo fdisk -l04:23
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rmd_is there a kde program that can play FLV files?04:23
llp78rmd_ i have a script which converts flv to divx04:23
llp78using mencoders04:23
rmd_oh04:23
rmd_do share04:23
llp78how04:24
rmd_i've tried ffmpeg2theora, but it throws an invalid codec error04:24
llp78pm me your email04:24
rmd_ah04:24
rmd_no04:24
llp78ive tested this as i wanted to slow down a youtube vid04:24
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llp78ok ill paste in here04:24
llp78#!/bin/sh04:24
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llp78if [ -z "$1" ] ; then04:24
llp78  echo "Usage: $0 {-divx|-xvid} list_of_flv_files"04:24
llp78  exit 104:25
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llp78fi04:25
llp78# video encoding bit rate04:25
llp78V_BITRATE=100004:25
llp78while [ "$1" ] ; do04:25
llp78  case "$1" in04:25
TrickserTmT: hi, i have installed nvidia-glx and the linux-restricted-modules and I am getting "error running install command for nvidia"04:25
llp78    -divx)04:25
llp78      MENC_OPTS="-ovc lavc -lavcopts \04:25
llp78        vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=$V_BITRATE:mbd=2:v4mv:autoaspect"04:25
llp78      ;;04:25
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llp78    -xvid)04:25
llp78      MENC_OPTS="-ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=$V_BITRATE:autoaspect"04:25
llp78      ;;04:25
llp78    *)04:26
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llp78      if file "$1" | grep -q "Macromedia Flash Video"; then04:26
llp78        mencoder "$1" $MENC_OPTS -vf pp=lb -oac mp3lame \04:26
llp78          -lameopts fast:preset=standard -o \04:26
llp78          "`basename $1 .flv`.avi"04:26
llp78      else04:26
TrickserTmT: using Linux 2.6.20-15-38604:26
llp78        echo "$1 is not Flash Video. Skipping"04:26
llp78      fi04:26
llp78      ;;04:26
llp78  esac04:26
llp78  shift04:26
llp78done04:26
llp78save as flv2avi.sh04:26
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sercikHi llp78!04:26
llp78hi04:27
LjL!paste | llp7804:27
ubotullp78: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:27
sercikwhat are you speaknig about??04:27
llp78flv converter#04:27
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TrickserTmT: but using linux-*-generic it seems that the old 1.0.7184 driver is used, but 1.0.96x is really what i am using, so, the X does not start04:28
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llp78the link is @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21567/ if anyone wants it04:28
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Tm_TTrickser: er04:29
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llp78LjL: thanks for the pastebin04:29
Tm_TTrickser: sounds bad04:29
carlohi, just a stupid question: how can I know what kubuntu version it's installed in a pc?04:30
LjL!version04:30
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell04:30
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TrickserTm_T: well, i have found an other clue...04:30
BlackBsdhow many lines is "large"04:30
carlothanks04:30
TrickserTmT: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/10764604:30
LjLBlackBsd: more than one.04:30
BlackBsd5 lines and up?04:30
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sercikit seems that under linux i see characters not good good as under windows my monitor seems not on focus.. is there any font rendering that i can try??04:31
LjL5 lines is already annoying enough. if you have output that you can't make fit in one line of IRC, just use the pastebin, it's there for that reason and it's must handier for everyone to look at too04:31
BlackBsdso lip78, this script is slows the video down?04:31
BlackBsdwhat about sound04:32
malik__is it possible to convert ntfs partition into an ext2/3 partition, without destroying thedata on it?04:32
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BlackBsdreally?  2 lines is "large"04:33
BlackBsdi think there has been times where i have accidently pasted a few lines into and irc window...04:33
BlackBsddamn.04:33
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GrahamPhinnFort: dir2ogg keeps failing.04:34
llp78BlackBsd: no it converts - but with flv 's you cannot slow them down so i converted for the reason04:34
llp78it converts to divx from flv04:34
GrahamSays UnboundLocalError: local variable 'x' referenced before assignment04:34
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BlackBsdnalik_ just make a new partion and copy the data?04:34
ReMiiRuruWhat is the reccomended method of installing nvidia graphic drivers? using the .run package on their site?04:34
BlackBsdmalik_04:34
BlackBsdor not an option?04:35
BlackBsdi have been hearing about this new fuse software04:35
BlackBsdallowing rw support in ntfs04:35
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malik__BlackBsd: at the moment i dont have that big parttion or psace onto which i can move the data04:36
BlackBsdi think it means file system in user space or something like that04:36
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harryIs it possible to set up Amarok to stream music to other computers over a network?04:37
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SlimeyPeteReMiiRuru: use the ubuntu packages from adept/synatpic04:37
BlackBsdwhat is flv's?  is that a file format04:37
SlimeyPeteflash video04:37
harryI tried Jinzora, but I like Amarok's interface much more.04:37
haydar_If a new version releases04:37
haydar_do i update04:38
llp78is anyone duel booting on sperate hard drives here? if so can i take a look at your /boot/grub/menu.lst04:38
AFaithhello people! can anyone help me compile a driver for my old intel 536EP PCI modem ?04:38
haydar_or new installation04:38
AFaithi'm reciving errors while 'make 536' stage04:38
llp78i need help saving vista04:38
ReMiiRuruSlimeyPete: Well, that means I don't even have to try installing those :/ Well, not unless I'll find linux magican who'll get rid of all problems nvidia drivers give me.04:38
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SlimeyPeteReMiiRuru: if the packages don't work then yes, use the .run ... it's your only other option04:39
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AFaithhttp://www.pastebin.ca/496882 here is the output of the console04:39
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ReMiiRuruSlimeyPete: No... that didn't work as well, I just hoped I missed some reccomended way ~.~; I can install those drivers, but then X won't start and I'll get neat error04:41
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AFaithno one ?04:41
NiceGuyUKAFaith: I just got here, what was the question?04:41
AFaithat least, can you provide me some links where should i read more about the problem ?04:41
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AFaithNiceGuyUK: i'm trying to compile a driver for my old intel 536EP modem04:42
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AFaithand it gives me an error04:42
NiceGuyUKlong error or short one?04:42
AFaithhttp://www.pastebin.ca/496882 here is the output of the console04:42
NiceGuyUKok04:42
NiceGuyUKone sec while I look04:42
AFaithok ..04:42
llp78can anyone help with grub ?04:43
Tm_T!helpme04:43
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:43
llp78I have vista on a seperate drive which didnt get picked up by grub - now I need to see some grub config - interested in the root (hd0,0) bit04:44
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NiceGuyUKAFaith: bit beyond my skills unfortunately :-(04:45
AFaithoh :(04:45
AFaithtoo bad04:45
llp78because I have vista on the 2nd sata and 3 hd's in the same system04:45
AFaithbut, can you provide me some links useful for me ?04:45
BlackBsdok, if i want to compile a new kernel, and my current kernel config is set up right, cant i use make oldconfig to keep the migrate my old kernel?  what about any new settings or bad settings?04:46
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NiceGuyUKAFaith: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/archive-fifth/msg02410.html04:46
AFaithlet me see... thanks NiceGuyUK!!04:46
NiceGuyUKAFaith: talks about Fedora but may help, esp. bit about commenting out the PM_ACCESS part in the source04:46
serghello04:46
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AFaithhelo serg!04:47
AFaithhello*04:47
BlackBsdlip you can use fdisk to figure out where the partition it04:47
serg:)04:47
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llp78I know which partition the vista is on but i cant work out the correct root(hd0,0) bit04:47
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AFaithits just crap04:47
BlackBsdit would be fdisk /dev/sdb04:48
AFaithnothing ... i think i would abandon the idea04:48
llp78i think the root(hd0,0) bit is implying that vista is on the 1st hd but its not its on the 3rd so what would be the correct root04:48
llp78in the grub config04:49
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llp78I can mount vista partition in kubuntu and I know its on /dev/sdc104:49
llp78I need to know how to add this info to grub in order to beable to duel boot vista and kubunti04:50
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NiceGuyUKAFaith: http://www.mepis.org/node/602204:51
NiceGuyUKmepis is debian/ubuntu based too04:51
AFaithi know... let me see :D04:51
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NiceGuyUKI'm no expert on compiling kernel drivers - been struggling to patch my wireless drivers lately04:52
pagllp78, iirc if Vista's on sdc1, then the grub thinks it's hd2,004:52
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llp78pag: thanks for the reply and have added that to the grub config already I thought that aswell - but Grub hangs on "starting now"04:53
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NiceGuyUK!nickspam04:54
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently04:54
masterksorry bout the nick changes04:54
NiceGuyUKjust a little reminder ;)04:54
masterkI didn't realize I auto joined04:54
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BluesKajor do your changes in the serverpage textbox04:55
BlackBsd the vista would be somthing like  root(hd2, 2)\nchainloader +1  if its the 3rd one in.04:55
pagllp78, I might be worong, but somehow I recall that you need to add some lines, that make Vista think it's on first partition of first HD. I'll try to see, if I find those lines04:55
llp78this is my grub config for vista http://www.pastebin.ca/49690204:55
llp78pag: your a legend if you find anythiing please lmk04:55
masterkanyways I have a little issue, non of the audio players included give out audio...04:55
BlackBsdis anyone compiling kernels??04:56
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masterkI downloaded VLC Media Player and it plays audio but I don't know why it does and not the other stuff04:56
NiceGuyUK!mp3 | masterk04:56
ubotumasterk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:56
masterkI want to use amarok for my shoutcast streams I listen to04:56
BluesKaj!codecs04:56
NiceGuyUKmight help04:56
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pagllp78, I think this is the way: http://www.pastebin.ca/496906  It might work, but I won't promise anything04:57
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llp78pag: its worth a look thanks for the help04:58
pagyw :)04:58
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BluesKajmasterk, amarok-engine , xine, xineplugins..check synaptic for these04:58
AFaithhello BluesKaj!  now i've noticed you :P04:59
AFaithremember me ?04:59
BluesKajhi AFaith04:59
BluesKajyup04:59
AFaith:P04:59
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AFaithNiceGuyUK: it really worked :D04:59
timmayhey everyone05:00
NiceGuyUKAFaith: you got the modem working?05:00
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AFaithno really, but i've got the driver installed :P05:00
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AFaithi should work :D05:00
NiceGuyUKAFaith: thats a good start05:00
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AFaithof course :P05:00
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AFaithgot to restart... it asks me to restart :)05:00
AFaithbe right back05:00
NiceGuyUKglad #I could point you in the right direction05:01
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AFaithwanna ask you something :P05:01
masterkBluesKaj: amarok is upgradable and it doesn't have the engines05:01
masterkinstall?05:01
BluesKajmasterk, go for it05:01
masterkkk05:01
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Captain_Haddock!upgrade05:02
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)05:02
GrahamI'm havint some trouble converting my music to ogg.05:02
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GrahamI'm using soundKonverter, it seems to decode properly but it fails to encode, however it does encode properly to mp305:03
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NiceGuyUKgot liblame installed?05:03
donPag: I get NTLDR is missing now -05:03
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NiceGuyUK!lame05:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
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Captain_HaddockCan somebody confirm that upgrades cannot be performed using the Live / Desktop CD?05:04
sergiuhello05:04
GrahamLame as in the MP3 encoder?05:04
NiceGuyUKCaptain_Haddock: I think you can when you insert the CD05:04
pagdon, I have no idea what does that mean. sorry.05:04
GrahamFor encoding to .ogg?05:04
NiceGuyUKGraham: yesh, the library code version05:04
sergiuhow to check if the kubuntu installation was properluy installed with all files?05:04
NiceGuyUKoh yeah, wrong way, sorry05:04
sergiubecouse the instalttion was not "clean"05:04
GrahamThe files are wma, it decodes fine, it encoded to mp3 perfectly.05:05
Captain_HaddockNiceGuyUK: Is this the "driver update CD" option? That seemed to go nowhere.05:05
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NiceGuyUKCaptain_Haddock: ah, could be05:05
Captain_HaddockNiceGuyUK: Otherwise the only option I see is "Install" (icon on the desktop) when I use the LiveCD.05:05
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Captain_HaddockNiceGuyUK: and that proceeded with asking me questions for a fresh install.05:06
NiceGuyUKCaptain_Haddock: I thought I saw an upgrade option in the past, maybe it was the driver thing I was thinking of05:06
Captain_HaddockAh05:06
Captain_HaddockAny idea how large the network install is?05:06
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NiceGuyUKCaptain_Haddock: a few hours worth on broadband. DOn't wanna think about doing that on dialup :-S05:07
AFaithback again :)05:07
NiceGuyUKwb05:07
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AFaithwhats his problem NiceGuyUK ?05:07
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NiceGuyUKupgrade distro from CD instead of fresh install or network upgrade05:08
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Captain_HaddockAFaith: I have the Live CD (which was mailed to me) and would like to upgrade to Feisty from Edgy.05:08
AFaithdo you have a good internet connection ?05:08
Captain_HaddockNot really :(05:08
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masterkBluesKaj: the upgrades are installed and the engines are too but it didn't help05:09
BluesKajGraham, check settings/configure soundkonverter/envirnonment...look at the "programs not found" list05:09
AFaithCaptain_Haddock: you should consider to ask for a new CD with Feisty Fawn or ask a friend of yours to burn a disc for you :)05:10
Captain_HaddockAFaith: the alternate CD?05:10
NiceGuyUKI stil believe there should be a way to upgrade from CD, but not got a spare machine to prove it with05:10
BluesKajmasterk , sometimes a relogin is needed05:10
masterkok05:10
masterkrelogging in05:10
AFaithno really..05:10
masterkbe back soon05:10
AFaithCaptain_Haddock: ask ShipIT to send you a feisty fawn disc:)05:11
NiceGuyUK(and then wait several weeks)05:11
Captain_HaddockI ordered and got a 3 CD pack - 2 32 bit and 1 64 bit.. Could one of them be an alternate CD?05:11
BlackBsdhow do i turn on the sshd on the kubuntu?05:11
BlackBsdso i can ssh in05:11
Captain_HaddockAFaith: I'm not sure what you mean - I have the discs...05:11
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Captain_HaddockThere just doesn't seem to be an upgrade option when I boot with it.05:12
NiceGuyUKBlackBsd: you got openssh installed from the repos yet?05:12
Captain_HaddockThere is a "driver update CD" something or the other, but that went nowhere.05:12
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NiceGuyUK!ssh05:13
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ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/05:13
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donaldHello, anyone having trouble with the game slune on fiesty?05:13
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teezettcan someone tell me how to get amarok play mp3?05:14
NiceGuyUK!mp3 | teezett05:14
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ubotuteezett: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:14
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ubuntu__hello05:16
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DRUNKENSTEINhello guys05:16
sybuxhi all05:16
DRUNKENSTEINI'm new to kubuntu, and running a freshly installed one05:16
DRUNKENSTEINbut I've got some problems to fix.. has any one of you encountered having an OS hang after you run amarok?05:17
BlackBsdthanks guys.. i booted into gentoo.05:17
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NiceGuyUKBlackBsd: I'm sorry to hear that :-P05:17
sybuxI've got a little problem since I've updated to feisty. When I listen some music, the sound is not good anymore. There is some bad noise during play05:17
DekkardDRUNKENSTEIN:  what do you mean hang.. become unusable?05:17
Captain_HaddockDRUNKENSTEIN: there is an issue with trying to install mp3 support.05:17
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Captain_HaddockDRUNKENSTEIN: this happens the first time you play an mp3 file, right?05:18
llp78 /msg NickServ IDENTIFY lozza197805:18
BlackBsdi think my e1505 laptop from dell has pretty much everthing working in kubuntu05:18
sybuxDRUNKENSTEIN: have just have that 5 minute ago. just wait and amarok will give you the hand back05:18
Captain_Haddockllp78: muahahaha05:18
NiceGuyUKllp78: oops!05:18
BlackBsdi would like to get bluetooth working..05:18
teezettBlackBsd: gentoo is great, but hard to install05:18
DRUNKENSTEINyeps05:18
DRUNKENSTEINbecome completely unusable05:18
BlackBsdmaybe it does, and i just dont know how to use it05:18
DRUNKENSTEINyou can't do anything except restart it using your cpu's restart button05:18
NiceGuyUK!mp305:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:18
NiceGuyUK!codecs05:18
Captain_HaddockDRUNKENSTEIN: the entire system hangs?05:19
Captain_Haddockor just amarok?05:19
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DRUNKENSTEINtho whole system hangs05:19
llp78uhh oh05:19
Moduliz0rhi05:19
DekkardDRUNKENSTEIN:  do you have a lot of mp3 files.. liek a few hundred?05:19
DRUNKENSTEINDRUNKENSTEIN: have just have that 5 minute ago. just wait and amarok will give you the hand back05:19
masterkBluesKaj I restarted and the welcome ogg played but not the shoutcast stream05:19
Captain_HaddockYeah, like dude.. are you a pirate of epic proportions?05:19
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DRUNKENSTEINnope..just one mp3 file, i haven't intalled the other HDD that has the mp3 files yet05:20
NiceGuyUKCaptain_Haddock: lots of mp3s don't mean you;re a pirate. it means you know how to use iTunes and a CD ripper05:20
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Moduliz0rWhy does Gparted format my usb device (to ext3fs) so that all permissions are so that I cant create files or folders?05:20
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Captain_HaddockNiceGuyUK: that would be an exception to the rule in present day society, I reckon :)05:21
Captain_Haddockok, here goes.. network upgrade :(05:21
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Dekkardsometimes it is helpfull to start the app with a console command.. and see what the output is.. I know that on the first go of amarok.. it seems to want to index yer media.. that can be kind of a pain on a slow machine like mine (900 mhz)05:21
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masterkwhat files can you play by default with amarok?05:22
Captain_Haddock835 MB :(05:22
DRUNKENSTEINyeah..theproblem is when i start from the konsole, then it freezes05:22
Captain_Haddockmasterk: all open formats I think.05:22
DRUNKENSTEINit freezes before I can see the error messages05:22
Captain_Haddockogg etc.05:22
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DRUNKENSTEINit plays the sample fiel.. I didn't really check what that was , but probably ogg05:22
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ReMiiRuruI just tried installing nvidia drivers trough adept and when I tried reboot I got black screen and freeze when X should load.05:23
Dekkardwierd..05:23
Moduliz0rHow do I format a usb drive in ext3fs?05:23
Captain_HaddockDRUNKENSTEIN: try installing libxine-ffmpeg via apt and try again05:23
Captain_Haddockmight help.05:23
sybuxCaptain_Haddock: how to get right about the freeze when you lunch amarok with a mp3 for the 1st time ?05:23
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DRUNKENSTEINI've done that already..I mean installing from apt05:24
Captain_Haddocksybux: the above worked for me - installing libxine-ffmpeg and its dependencies05:24
DRUNKENSTEINbut still, thesame thing happend05:24
DRUNKENSTEINyeps..the first time05:24
DRUNKENSTEINsybux: yeps..it's the first time05:24
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tmskesomeone here who knows something about vim, command -> :python someCommand()^M, error NameError: name 'M' not defined05:24
DRUNKENSTEINbut I'm sure my audio is ok since it works when I do a check05:24
BlackBsdteezett, also knowing what software i need for my hardware.05:24
BluesKajmasterk, http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/FAQ05:25
sybuxCaptain_Haddock: which depot shall I need to install to get libxine-ffmpeg ?05:25
DRUNKENSTEINI'm thinking installing amarok from source05:25
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DRUNKENSTEINdo you think this will help ?05:25
teezettblackbsd, what do you mean?05:25
DRUNKENSTEINby the way, the version of amarok that was installed was tehsame as the latest version on their site05:25
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JP_P_homehello al05:26
JP_P_homehave a probleme with autofs and konqueror05:26
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masterkI figured it out, amarok won't play mp3 by default but if you open up an mp3 file it will use your package installer to install mp3 support from universe05:26
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BluesKajcool masterk05:27
JP_P_homekonqueror create .hidden and .directory files that are tryed to be mounted as shared folder by the automount deamon05:27
JP_P_homeis there a way to avoid konqueror to create such files?05:28
JP_P_homein some folders05:28
ForMatterEveryone,can u help me..In my system setting,I cant change to administrator mode..05:28
mrwizrdquick question guys, what's the most winamp-like media player?05:28
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Eric1979xmms05:28
masterkso guys, how hard do you think it would be to migrate myself from windows to linux? I want to force teach myself linux05:28
JP_P_homemrwizrd> xmms05:28
mrwizrddoes xmms have media player functionality?05:29
mrwizrdno, erm05:29
mrwizrdmedia library05:29
Moduliz0r?05:29
Moduliz0rI dont think so05:29
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JP_P_homemrwizrd> no it like winamp205:29
JP_P_homethe real one !05:29
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mrwizrdI'm gonna run it in wine i think for now05:29
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mrwizrdi was hoping not to.. but..05:29
kellenhello05:30
JP_P_homemrwizrd> try amarok05:30
Captain_Haddocksybux: Just the default repos IIRC..05:30
lupulhow do i choose the port in ssh?05:30
Eric1979hi guys just wondering if anyone can point me in the rite direction to setting up 3D on an NVIDIA card with Feisty please ??05:30
mrwizrdoh yes05:30
kellendoes anybody have any ideas on a very inexpensive computer for a grandma?05:30
Captain_Haddocksybux: actually, in addition to that, I also ran the amarok install script directly from the CLI05:30
mrwizrdi installed the ms core fonts05:30
Dekkardmacpro05:31
BluesKajmasterk, depends how much time and what apps you want to able run on linux and in some cases , depending on your hardware, what you're willing to live without .. then you can always hang on to your windows partition or install a virtual machine for windows05:31
Captain_Haddocksybux: /user/lib/amarok/install-mp3 I believe.05:31
lupuleric1979 - you have to download the driver from nvidia05:31
Dekkardoops.. inexpensive05:31
Moduliz0rHow do I format a USB storage device?05:31
Dekkardimac05:31
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mrwizrdhow can i make kde use the fonts - which ones for which parts, and what sizes/settings?05:31
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BluesKajgranma gonna run windows or linux :) ?05:32
mrwizrdsame for firefox05:32
kellenlinux05:32
Eric1979lupul : are there any tuts u could point me to that will take me thru it step by step im a bit of a nix noob ;)05:32
kellenall she needs is a web browser, email app, word proc, and spreadsheet05:32
Eric1979kellen : try a local carboot/garage sale05:32
Dekkardkellen:  default ubuntu install05:32
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masterkBluesKaj: well basically I have found an app for everything I normally do in windows for kubuntu, except for video I have VLC but my media files play crappy... mainly because this is a crappy pentium 3 IBM THINKPAD... It's a T2205:33
Dekkardshe isnt gonna want to tweak the gui.. or anything05:33
Dekkardshes not going to play with beryl or compiz..05:33
BluesKaja $400 pc will prolly do the job depending on peripherals like printers etc and of course the monitor05:33
kellennope05:33
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Dekkardide do default ubuntu.. and prolly gnome05:33
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kellenI was hoping around $200 would get me one good enough for that stuff05:34
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Dekkardkellen:  does she hava a computer?05:34
BluesKajmasterk for media like dvd etc , there's devede and tovid05:34
Captain_Haddockkellen: Considering that email, word proc and spreadsheets are all now available on the browser.. you can just ask her to always use a Live CD :)05:34
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Captain_Haddockkellen: cheapest option IMO.05:34
conaxhi05:34
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kellenwell, she's going to use linux no matter what, I just need to find a cheap computer05:34
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fjellahi05:35
Dekkardplace near me has a box only for $29905:35
fjellai have one question05:35
conaxI have a problem with instaling java05:35
Dekkard!java | conax05:35
BluesKajwell, a 200buck walmart comes with lindows , then you can install kubuntu over that if you wish05:35
ubotuconax: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:35
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masterkBluesKaj: well actually I use VLC mainly because I have files such as mkv and ogm and divx encoded avis05:36
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fjellahow can i use a channel from xirc?05:36
pag!ask | fjella05:36
ubotufjella: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:36
fjella*g*05:36
BluesKajmasterk,devede and tovid handle divx and xvid very nicely05:36
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fjellamy english is not so good^^05:36
Dekkardxirc is irc program?05:37
fjellayes05:37
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Dekkardirc commands are usually like this to join: > /join #channelname05:37
BluesKajmasterk, devede and tovid are basically dvd transcoding and dvd authoring tools05:37
masterkBluesKaj: and ogm?05:38
fjellaaahhh thx dekkard05:38
Dekkardnp05:38
Ayabara_I'm having some network problems. Is there a way to view available wireless networks?05:38
BluesKajdunno about ogm05:38
kellenwalmart sells computers for $200?05:38
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masterkhmm...05:39
sybuxCaptain_Haddock: thx it's ok now05:39
Captain_Haddocksybux: cool :)05:40
Captain_Haddockmasterk: what exactly happens when you use VLC?05:40
masterkthe video runs choppy05:40
sybuxany1 play Wow under wine ?05:40
Moduliz0rhell no05:40
Captain_Haddockmasterk: ah. Your graphics card is all set up right?05:41
masterkI have no clue...05:41
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Captain_Haddockmasterk: That would be a good thing to check.05:42
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BluesKajsorry kellen, walmart did sell a 200buck pc at one time...IC they've upscaled a bit05:43
masterkthe video seems to work fine when I play videos on youtube...05:43
masterkthat uses a flash video player05:43
conaxI'm from Germany there is now wal mart in the near05:43
Captain_HaddockAh05:43
masterkand I don't feel like disasembling flash code to figure out he settings05:43
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Captain_Haddockmasterk: have you tried mplayer?05:43
toxidashi y'all05:44
BluesKajconax,  you should be glad :) ...walmart does damage to local economies05:44
Captain_Haddockaye05:44
masterkmplayer.... I think I've heard of that.... wasn't it a windows app that looked like windows media player from windows 98?05:44
toxidasi cannot work beryl i could yesterday tough05:44
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Captain_Haddockmasterk: that's a different one05:44
toxidasi have a message saying :beryl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/beryl/libbench.so: undefined symbol: benchGetOutput_console05:44
mackeDoes Google Sketchup work with Wine?05:44
fjellaspeak anyone german??05:45
toxidaswhat does it mean ?? anyone please05:45
Captain_Haddockmasterk: www.mplayerhq.hu05:45
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fjellasomebody05:45
Eric1979hi guys im trying to install NVIDIA drivers but its telling me im running an X server and to quit it before running the driver setup how do i go about doing that ????05:45
masterkRight now I'm running on an 8GB partition to figure out everything so when I install to the new 80GB hard drive I know what to do05:45
Captain_Haddockfjella: I think there might be a german channel.05:46
Captain_Haddock!de05:46
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masterklet me chack out that site..05:46
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:46
mackeAny good alternative too Google Sketchup for Kubuntu/Ubuntu?05:46
Captain_Haddockwhee05:46
llp78Eric1979 look into run levesl - you need to drop into text mode only05:46
Captain_Haddockmasterk: check your package manager too05:46
timmayhey so ubuntu is supposed to be geard towards people that are used to linux based OS so they can get a feel for like Windows OS right?05:46
masterkI know I can install it by going into adept...05:46
Eric1979llp78 ok so how do i do that lol ???05:47
macke!info sketchup05:47
ubotuPackage sketchup does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:47
macke!info Cad/Cam05:47
ubotuPackage cadcam does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:47
macke!info cad05:47
ubotuPackage cad does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:47
Ayabara_I can ping my router now, but when I try another address I get "connect: Network is unreachable". any tips?05:47
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macke!info CAM05:47
ubotucam: Cpu's Audio Mixer for Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.05-8 (feisty), package size 16 kB, installed size 100 kB05:48
llp78Eric1979 runlevel --help into a terminal05:48
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mackeBah!05:48
fjellathx.....my englisch is to bad05:48
Eric1979llp78 ok thanks05:48
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toxidasanybody can help me solve this??05:48
masterkNOW I remember where I heard mplayer from, I was attempting to setup one of my computers as a media PC once and I saw this as one of the possible media players05:48
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Captain_Haddocktimmay: um, the other way around perhaps.05:50
masterkwhat is the most stable release yet?05:50
mackeDoes anyone know a good alternative for Google Skethup for Kubuntu?05:50
masterkof kubuntu I mean05:50
Captain_HaddockAyabara_: Perrin, another IP?05:50
Captain_Haddockmasterk: 7 / Feisty05:50
Captain_Haddockoh05:51
masterkwow... I have 6.06 right at the moment05:51
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Captain_HaddockI misread your question.. It is the _latest_ release. As for stability, I will know in the next couple of weeks :)05:51
llp78Eric1979: the command is "sudo init 1"05:51
masterklol05:52
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Ayabara_Captain_Haddock: what do you mean? I can ping an external ip from my winpc, but not from kubuntu05:52
conaxcan somebody (forgot the user name) the java link again05:52
|lostbyte|are't there any updates for edgy, adept asks me to upgrade to feisty every time i update the repositories.05:52
Captain_Haddock!java05:52
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:52
conaxthx05:52
macke!info cedega-CVS05:53
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masterk!edgy05:53
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the 5th release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes05:53
macke!info cedega05:53
masterkso edgy is the latest stable version?05:53
ubotuPackage cedega does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:53
Captain_HaddockAyabara_: I thought you might have been pinging a domain name instead (with DNS issues)05:53
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jitendrahi all.05:53
masterk!stable05:54
jitendrai have some problem with my vlc05:54
Ayabara_Captain_Haddock: ah. I tried pinging the ip instead cause I suspected the same05:54
AFaithi've got a very good tutorial that can help you make a voice call answering machine form your linux box/server05:54
Captain_HaddockAyabara_: if you can ping the router and not other addresses, it's very likely a firewall / routing issue, no?05:54
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:54
AFaithhttp://www.vocpsystem.com here is the link05:54
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AFaithmaybe someone will be interested in this :P05:54
Captain_HaddockAyabara_: tried a traceroute?05:54
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masterkhmm...05:54
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Ayabara_Captain_Haddock: no, cause I have no idea what it is :-) , seems some gateway and dns settings have disappeared here, so I'm trying to enter them again05:55
Captain_Haddockjitendra: don't we all?05:55
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mackeAnyone got Google SketchUp working in Wine?05:56
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Ayabara_Captain_Haddock: the dns servers should be the same that windows uses, right? I'm not really rock solid on network issues05:56
Ayabara_:-)05:56
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Captain_HaddockAyabara_: yes, they should be the same. But it shouldn't affect pings.05:56
masterkinteresting AFaith05:56
Ayabara_Captain_Haddock: it helped a lot to enter gateway adress :-)05:56
Captain_Haddockhehe05:56
AFaithmasterk: i know :P i've even submitted that to stumble upon :P05:57
Captain_Haddock14 more hours for the upgrade to finish :(05:57
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mymamemanhi all05:57
masterktoo bad I don't have a phone line AFaith05:58
Ayabara_Captain_Haddock: I had another problem earlier, and tried going between DHCP and static ip. Think the network manager cleared some fields I did not want it to clear...05:58
Ayabara_thanks for caring ;)05:58
mymamemancan somebody help me with beryl05:58
Captain_Haddocknp, glad you're sorted :)05:58
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AFaithmasterk: if you manage to do that, please, let us know ... write a blog article, a wiki one or whatever you want :))05:58
mymameman3 hours ago it was running05:58
jitendra_hello which player can play .avi format05:58
AFaithbut let us know :P05:58
AFaithjitendra_: whatever player you want :)05:58
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AFaithVLC, Kaffeine, MPlayer05:58
AFaithbut you need codecs installed05:59
jitendra_in vlc it renders video but there is no sound05:59
masterkVLC has most codecs included05:59
jitendra_it plays all other formats properly05:59
mymamemannow the problem is i cant apply any themes with emerald and suddenly beryl shows just 2 virtual desktops insted of 405:59
Captain_HaddockI wonder if gspot works under WINE..05:59
Ayabara_Captain_Haddock: another Q though. The network config now has only the gateway address listed in DNS servers. Is this right?05:59
masterkDoes anyone have experience with setting up thinkpads?06:00
Captain_HaddockAyabara: the gateway address should be a separate field.06:00
jitendra_so do i need so codecs?06:00
jitendra_so do i need some codecs?06:00
AyabaraCaptain_Haddock: I know. But the ip in DNS address field is the same as the one in the gateway field06:00
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AFaithyes06:01
Ayabaraand my browsers are really slow to decide where to go...06:01
mymamemancan somebody help me with beryl?06:01
Captain_HaddockAyabara: well, the DNS field should contain the DNS addresses. They should be the ones visible in /etc/resolv.conf06:02
bader_My desktop seems to lag when I scroll down a website, anyone know why this could be happeneing?06:02
Captain_HaddockAyabara: as to what they are, that would depend on your configuration.06:02
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jitendra_AFaith: thanks i will try that06:02
AFaithyour welcome jitendra_!06:03
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Ayabarait's the gateway address in resolv.conf as well. windows has two entirely different adresses.06:03
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Captain_HaddockAyabara: use the same ones as in Windows I reckon.06:03
sparrwhen i use grep on my irc logs i get truncation around control codes (color, bold, etc), how can i work around that?06:03
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AyabaraCaptain_Haddock: tried it and things are fast again  Guess I'll save it as a profile and never mention it again06:04
mymamemancan somebody help me with beryl?06:04
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Captain_Haddockcool. I also add opendns IPs in my resolv.conf as my ISP's DNS servers get fragged regularly.06:05
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mymamemanis there any beryl channel?06:05
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pag!beryl | mymameman06:05
ubotumymameman: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:05
mymamemani know that06:06
mymamemani just need to fix a problem06:06
mymamemanthx for the info06:06
Captain_Haddockmymameman: from the only instance where I wasted my time on Beryl, the usual fix was to delete all the config files and restart :P06:06
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mymamemanlol06:06
mymameman3 hours ago it was running06:07
ForMatterAnyone please help me,i cant change to administrator mode in system setting..06:07
mymamemannow the problem is i cant apply any themes with emerald and suddenly beryl shows just 2 virtual desktops insted of 406:07
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Captain_Haddockmymameman: no idea.. as pag mentioned, try #ubuntu-effects I guess06:08
mymamemanthx06:08
pagForMatter, just open the system settings with admin priviledges. press alt+f2 and type kdesu systemsettings06:08
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Eric1979can anyone tell me how to mount an iso as if it were a cd drive ??06:09
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ForMatterHello..Anyone please help me,i cant change to administrator mode in system setting..06:09
ForMatterI am using kubuntu 7.0406:09
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pagEric1979, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning06:10
Eric1979pag: thanks06:10
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jitendra_mymameman: i had some similar problem. install compiz and then run beryl. i think that may work.06:11
AFaithoh my .. whats on the ubuntu channel06:11
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ironcladlouis there some port of the default gnome/ubuntu icon theme for KDE? i don't even know what it's called06:13
AFaithhey, maybe you can help me, because there no one can is answering06:13
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pagironcladlou, you mean that brown theme?06:13
ironcladloupag: i mean the icon theme, not the gtk WM theme06:13
AFaithhello people :) some friend of mine is having a nasty problem while trying to install ubuntu feisty fawn ... it keeps reciving this error while trying to enter the live cd mode. here is the error : http://www.pastebin.ca/49701306:14
Eric1979ok my image file is an MDS MDF file/s is there a way to mount them ??06:14
AFaiththis is what i've wrote on #ubuntu and no one is answering :(06:14
ironcladlouwhat is the name of the default gnome/ubuntu icon theme (e.g., Tango)? i am looking for a KDE port06:15
pagironcladlou, oh. well the theme is called Human; you could try searching kde-look.org06:15
ironcladloupag: i was hunting around on there but didn't know what to search for, lemme give it a shot06:15
ironcladlouoops, i meant to paste that previous message into #ubuntu06:16
timmayHey for WINE, how do you do the virtual desktop?06:16
sybuxI'm trying to run WoW with wine unde ubuntu with a dual screen. My problem is that wow display on the 2 screens and I can't change to only 106:17
pagironcladlou, Default Gnome theme *is* Tango, default ubuntu's theme is Human. I know, that there's some god ports of Tango, but I'm not aware of any good Hu,am ports06:17
mackesybuk: Can WoW run smooth?06:17
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mackeunder wine06:17
ironcladlouahh06:17
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ironcladloumaybe i'll give tango a shot and see how it looks06:18
timmayhow do you create a virtual dektop with wine?06:19
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manu_hi06:20
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EquIs it posible to not start kdm when i boot ubuntu?06:20
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manu_i've installed a hp officejet all-in-one printer and its also a scanner included, printer works fine with cups, how can i get a scan of this machine?06:20
manu_Equ: bootcheats: init 306:21
manu_then you get  no x and no kdm06:21
sparrfirefox uses a different kde mouse cursor theme than every other application and the default on my system.  how can i fix that?06:21
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mackeI have installed Google Sketchup using wine. But how do i start it using the "-opengl"? i have tried wine googlesketchup6.exe -opengl but didnt work06:22
dr_willisHmm.. what was the one package that let you set up one machine, on the lan to work as the apt 'cache' for the rest of the lan.06:22
dr_willis!apt06:22
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:22
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macke!info wine06:22
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB06:23
macke!wine06:23
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:23
ironcladloui have a pidgin .deb, but there are several dependencies which are unsatisfied... dpkg won't grab them automatically, so how do i install the thing?06:24
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delightdoes skencil work on anybodys feisty/i386 installation ?06:24
manu_macke: the one of the kanotix irc?06:24
pagironcladlou, where did you get the .deb from?06:25
manu_in freenode06:25
ironcladloupag: getdebs.net or something06:25
mackemanu: Nope :)06:25
frojndwhy  I can't delete fileis from USB stick. I can only copy from it and paste on usb stick...06:25
ironcladloualso, i believe it has a gconf dependency... any idea if this is a library, or is it a service process to manage gconf interaction which is going to take memory?06:25
Eric1979how do i create a new folder ??06:26
manu_macke: ok ^^06:26
ironcladlouobviously i don't wanna have any gnome services running if i can get away with it06:26
mackeAnyone got Sketchup working under Wine?06:26
pagironcladlou, hmm.. you could try: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb; sudo apt-get install -f06:27
masterk!thinkpad06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thinkpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
masterk!ibm06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ibm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
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macke!Sketchup06:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sketchup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:28
ironcladloupag: ah ha! good idea06:28
Graham!pie06:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:28
Graham!linux06:28
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux06:28
pag!botabuse06:28
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:28
Graham!dicks06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dicks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
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Graham:P06:29
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mymamemanok that did it but nowi have the adept notifier icon in the upper left corner and i cant move or close it usually that should be down in the system tray06:29
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ironcladloupag: bah, as i suspected, now i have a gconf2 service running always06:29
ironcladlouit's tiny, luckily06:29
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pagironcladlou, if you don't want gnome processes, the I'd suggest not to install gnome-applications ;)06:30
ironcladlouone more random question, this time about kwin: it seems to be doing a really crappy job deciding where to put new windows. usually it tosses them in an extreme corner of the screen06:30
ironcladloupag: as soon as they make a KPidgin using libpurple... :)06:30
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ironcladloui did notice that fvwm4 was also doing the annoying extreme corner placement thing when i was in gnome the other day, but i was able to configure its "smart placement" options to prevent it06:31
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ironcladloui don't see any kwin options to configure how it places windows06:31
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masterkwhat is the command to see the current channels on a server?06:34
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timmayok i installed wine through the add/remove programs in kubuntu (feisty fawn) but how do I make one of the desktops look like windows xp?06:36
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stevec_timmay: it doesnt do that06:37
timmayhow does it work then?....i'm a windows user trying to learn more about linux....so i'm not sure how everything works06:38
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stevec_!wine06:38
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:38
timmayty06:38
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stevec_timmay: it used for running windows programs, e.g. ms office. it doesnt actually make your desktop look any different06:38
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timmayoh ok...well i'm doing a dual boot and have by primary drive still setup with windows xp, so would I be able to use the programs on that drive using wine?06:40
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stevec_timmay: you'd have to install them again in you linux partition06:41
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timmayok great, thanks for the info :)06:41
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EquDo i need to download the nvidia driver from nvidia.com? because i cant get the driver from apt-get to work.06:42
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mweijts!firewall06:44
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:44
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Equ!nvidia06:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:45
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mackeAnybody know of a good alternative for Sketchup?06:49
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PhinnFortmacke: what is ketchup?06:52
timmaywhere's the task manager? LOL06:52
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timmayoh man i'm too used to xp06:52
sparrmacke: povray or blender, depending on how you prefer to work06:52
PhinnForttimmay: control+esc06:52
timmayawesome06:52
timmayi'm lovin this OS06:52
PhinnFort;)06:52
mackesparr: Thanks will check them out, needs to be fast and pretty straight forward06:53
PhinnForttimmay: if you want pritti graphs and stuff, start ksysguard from the menu06:53
PhinnFort!3d06:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:53
sparrmacke: neither of them are  :)06:53
os2macanyone having problems getting onto Undernet?06:53
os2macthe proxyscanner is klining me.06:53
JohnFluxtimmay: press ctrl+esc06:53
timmaylol06:53
timmaythanks06:53
mackesparr: hehe well i aint to old too learn something new :)06:53
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josh_hye06:53
josh_im trying to use ndiswrapper06:54
josh_and i just installed it06:54
PhinnFortmacke: Blender is great, but it requires some time to learn, and povray is operated using scripts/text files06:54
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josh_but its saying no versions of ndiswrapper found06:54
josh_why can't it find it? do i need to reboot or somthing?06:54
PhinnFortmacke: you can also try wings3d, I haven't played with it much myself, but I've heard much good about it06:54
PhinnFort!info ndiswrapper06:54
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:54
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josh_its ndiswrapper-common that i installed06:55
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josh_so what command would i use to run it06:55
PhinnFort!ndiswrapper06:55
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:55
mackePhinnFort: Okey thanks. will check it out06:55
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josh_ah there is a graphical frontend and a source package06:56
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korobaseHi,all06:57
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josh_ok its verking now06:57
nicolai_Hey06:58
PhinnFort!hi | nicolai_06:58
ubotunicolai_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:58
nicolai_:P06:58
korobaseHow to make the environment parameter take action need no logout.06:58
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nicolai_My /media directory has obtained some clutter. I have three folders from external harddrives that are no longer used for mount.06:59
PhinnFortkorobase: export $THINGY=lol06:59
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sivajihi07:00
PhinnFort!hi | sivaji07:00
ubotusivaji: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:00
nicolai_When the drives aren't mounted, the clutter appears as simle folders, and when i mount a drive, the drive uses foldername-1 instead07:00
PhinnFortnicolai_: just delete the folders, then07:00
korobasePhinnFort:what is the lol mean?07:01
korobaseand so the $THINGY07:01
nicolai_Can i remove them safely without having trouble with my external drives afterwards?07:01
nicolai_I've become fairly nervous when it comes to messing with the /media folder :P07:02
macke!electric07:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about electric - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:02
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korobasePhinnFort:what is the lol mean? and so the $THINGY07:03
korobasePlease help me!07:04
Mo0oSaHWhy does my notebook run really hot?  Are there any tweaks that would run it cooler?07:05
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PhinnFortkorobase: export just sets an environment variable07:05
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masterkhow do I set my clock to 12 hour instead of military 24 hour?07:07
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masterk!clock07:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:08
korobaseHi,The Konversation just crashed.I don't get the last answer.Please type again.Thanks a lot!07:08
PhinnFortmasterk: try right-clicking on the clock and look at the settings07:08
masterkI did07:08
PhinnFortMinceR: plastic is more organic than07:08
PhinnFort[19:05]  <PhinnFort> korobase: export just sets an environment variable07:08
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nipolohi there! when i want to download somethink on my partition there was an error. i THINK that the problem is because the type of the partition is ntfs07:09
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korobaseI know the export mean.But07:09
DRUNKENTSTEINi'm back07:10
DRUNKENTSTEINfrom that amarok crash07:10
korobaseWhen I login again.The opened shell show me...07:10
korobasebash: export: `=lol': not a valid identifier07:10
korobasePhinnFort:How to fix this?07:10
TrickserHi, I am using the nvidia modules from linux-restricted-modules but when I recover from hibernation I got distorted colors in X and it is better to restart the server. Any suggestions? Thanks07:10
nicolai_nipolo: internal ntfs drive? Is it mounted?07:11
nipoloyes07:11
nicolai_nipolo: Do you have write access?07:12
PhinnFortkorobase: drop the $07:12
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nicolai_nipolo: internal NTFS drives are easy to mount, but they require a bit more to write to them.07:13
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korobasePhinnFort: export THINGY=lol ,Right?07:13
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DRUNKENTSTEINthats easy nicolai_..all you need is to install NTFS controller thing,,you can easily find that on adept07:13
PhinnFortkorobase: replace THINGY with the name of the variable and lol with the value of the variable07:14
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nicolai_nipolo: yeah, if you know its there ;)07:14
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andreaswhow can I say konqueror to ignore mime types and always display the save as file dialog07:15
korobaseOh.Maybe I should talk about What I need again!07:15
PhinnFortandreasw: maybe ask in #kde07:15
nicolai_nipolo: Besides, I've had a few problems where i had the drive mounted using "disk and filesystems" and then ran ntfs-config.07:15
felixhow do you install sun3 .. ?07:16
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PhinnFort!info sun307:16
ubotuPackage sun3 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:16
felixdamn07:16
korobaseI want set a variable and let it take action right.I hope it is no need to logout and login.07:16
PhinnFortkorobase: ?07:17
nipolonicolai_: and what to do?07:17
PhinnFortkorobase: to set an environment variable, use "export"07:17
DRUNKENTSTEINnicolai_: ..easy...press alt+f1..then there, you'll find it there07:17
korobaseI know using the export.07:17
nipolonicolai_: i've mounted that07:17
korobaseBut this must logout and login again.It take action.07:17
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DRUNKENTSTEINnicolai_: ah ic..but what you haven't done yet is writing to it ?07:18
DRUNKENTSTEINhey..anybody got some solution to why my system crashes when I run amarok?07:18
PhinnFortkorobase: use .bashrc07:18
DRUNKENTSTEINI'm using kubuntu 7.0.407:18
PhinnFortthe file07:18
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PhinnFort!fixamarokcrashinfeisty07:18
nicolai_DRUNKENSTEIN: I don't have any problems at the moment :)  It was on my sisters computer07:18
DRUNKENTSTEINthis is a fresh install ..but damn.. I'm thinking about shifting back to SUSE07:19
DRUNKENTSTEINnicolai_: oh cool .. good for you07:19
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nipolonicolai_: i also have win xp on this pc07:20
nicolai_nipolo: If you mounted using "system settings" first, then I would unmount, delete any settings of the drive, and then run ntfs-config again.07:20
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nipolonicolai_: how to do that?07:22
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_Fadehello07:23
nipolonicolai_: this is my second day i have linux07:23
nipolonicolai_: i don't know how to unmount "system settings"07:23
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nipoloby using adept?07:24
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nipoloor somethink else?07:24
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nicolai_nipolo: hehe, no. I meant unmounting the drive and then open system settings to remove information about the drive07:25
josh_ok07:25
Rictoo_what's the shortcut for getting out of an app? It's [something] +X07:25
josh_i just installed ndiswrapper and installed the drivers07:25
josh_i assigned the device to the driver07:25
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josh_but knetworkmanager doesnt see a wireless device07:25
Rictoo_what's the shortcut for getting out of an app? It's [something] +X07:25
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nicolai_nipolo: system settings' -> 'advanced' -> disk & filesystems -> admin -> click on ntfs-drive -> click remove (i think that is the name. I'm using a different language)07:26
nicolai_nipolo: Remember to unmount first07:27
nipolothanks but how to unmount this?07:27
nicolai_nipolo: go to media:/ or /media07:28
nipoloand?07:28
nicolai_nipolo: right click on the icon and click 'safely remove'07:29
nicolai_nipolo: or possibly unmount07:29
nipolonicolai_: aha07:29
nipolothanks very much :)07:30
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nicolai_nipolo: I hope this solved the problem. I have to go soon, so if there is anything else, I might not have time to answer.07:31
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nipolonicolai_: ok ;)07:32
timmayoh man...who is willing to help a real life noob :/07:32
ulrichhey guys anyone know what i can do? i want to talk on skype but the other one cant hear me07:32
timmayyou have skype?07:34
timmaylol you're ahead of me :)07:34
ulrichi have skype07:34
ulrichthe kubuntu version of course07:34
PhinnFort!skype07:34
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto07:34
ulrichargh okay07:35
felixHwo can help me to install gcc ?07:35
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Graham!gcc07:35
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:35
felixthanks07:36
PhinnFortfelix: build-essential07:36
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timmaythis is going to sound real dumb but.....i just downloaded real player, how do i install it >.<07:37
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PhinnFort!realplayer07:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:37
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timmayright, i have the .bin file, but don't know how to install it07:37
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timmayi'm a regular window user07:37
PhinnForttimmay: why do you want the real player?07:38
DJServers!BadDevice07:38
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors07:38
mymamemanok that did it but nowi have the adept notifier icon in the upper left corner and i cant move or close it usually that should be down in the system tray07:38
PhinnForttimmay: if you can avoid it, that would be the best07:38
PhinnFortmymameman: can't you right-click on it?07:38
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timmayi'm trying to watch a trailer for a movie off the blockbuster.com site and needs winmedia or real player07:38
DJServers!xampp07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
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PhinnForttimmay: afaik, realplayer can't play anything that Kaffeine or MPlayer can't play07:39
nipolonicolai_: i was surprised by tih error:07:39
nipoloCannot open /media/.hal-mtab07:39
aaroncampbellwhat package(s) do I need to get mysql.h, my_global.h, m_ctype.h my_sys.h, and m_string.h?07:39
timmay!afaik07:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:39
timmaylol07:40
PhinnFortaaroncampbell: use packages.ubuntu.com07:40
andreI was wondering how to prevent a loop sound that occurs after the computer is left on over night with ubuntu07:40
felixEverytime i want to install a package i get : .. "E: Couldn't find package ..... " :(07:40
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PhinnFort!repositories | felix07:40
ubotufelix: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:40
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PhinnFortfelix: make sure your repositories are set up correctly07:41
timmayPhinnFort: if i have a link from blockbuster.com to "watch a trailer" how do i play it in kaffeine?07:41
PhinnForttimmay: can you give me the link?07:41
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DJServershow to save xorg.conf ?? it says: Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.07:42
PhinnFortDJServers: you must remember "kdesu kate"07:42
DJServersoyeah :P07:42
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timmayPhinnFort: http://www.blockbuster.com/catalog/movieDetails/28827807:42
DJServersi just cant put it in my head :P07:42
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PhinnForttimmay: it plays just fine here07:43
PhinnForttimmay: i just click "watch trailer", "next"07:43
DekkardDJServers:  what editor are you using?07:43
PhinnFortusing windows media format07:43
DJServerskate07:43
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DJServersbut do i typ: kdesu kate xorg.conf ??07:43
timmayPhinnFort: ok thanks07:43
Dekkardwhen you edit a .conf file not in your home dir.. youneed access.. so you need to start kate with: kdesu07:43
PhinnFortDJServers: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"07:43
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PhinnForttimmay: does it work?07:44
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timmayPhinnFort: it's bringing up the window to play it ok, but there is no video07:44
DJServersyeah it works thx07:44
PhinnForttimmay: have you installed the video codecs et al?07:45
timmayPhinnFort: ....07:45
timmaylol07:45
PhinnForttimmay: i select "300k Windows Media Broad Stream", and click play;)07:45
DJServers!BadDevice07:45
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors07:45
PhinnForttimmay: follow the instructions on this site to get them: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats07:45
timmayi've only had kubuntu for 2 days and have only been using windows since....3.0....so i'm not sure what i'm doing yet07:45
busfahrerHi, is there any way to disable the behaviour that when I click on a window in the taskbar that is already active, that it gets minimised? I looked around 'Window behaviour' and couldn't find anything.07:46
DJServerswhen i change it i have to restart my xserver by closing session and re loggin in right?07:46
PhinnFortbusfahrer: try asking in #kde07:46
timmayPhinnFort: ok i'll see if i can figure it out from the site :)07:47
busfahrerPhinnFort: They don't answer me :-)07:47
PhinnForttimmay: it shouldn't be hard07:47
Lynourebusfahrer: it's in Configure Taskbar07:47
PhinnFortbusfahrer: I don't think it's possible, but I don't know everything, though07:47
DJServersPhinnFort, i now have to restart my xserver right by relogging?07:47
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DJServersbrb07:47
PhinnFortDJServers: log out, hit ctrl+alt+backspace07:47
busfahrerLynoure: I looked through there, which option is it, I think I'm too stupid :-P07:47
PhinnFortlog in again07:47
Lynourebusfahrer: "Action: Left button"07:48
busfahrerLynoure: Thanks!07:48
hangthedjdoes anybody know how to fix a 30 gig stderr and stdout file?07:48
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DJServersyo i am back\07:50
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Dekkardhangthedj:  thats a big file07:50
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hangthedjDekkard: yeah i was converting midi files to mp3 and soundKonverter made those files so big07:51
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DJServersbut how to open a file in: /home/frank/xampp-linux-1.6.1 ??07:52
Dekkardjaysus07:52
sybuxI need some help configuring Kontact can someone help me ?07:52
Dekkardany chance you can start over?07:52
Dekkardlol07:52
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DJServers?07:52
PhinnFort!someone07:52
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:52
aleksanteri!ask | sybux07:52
ubotusybux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:52
delight!skencil07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skencil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
sybuxcorrect !!!07:52
PhinnFort!info skencil | delight07:52
ubotudelight: skencil: Interactive vector drawing program for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.17-7build1 (feisty), package size 959 kB, installed size 4892 kB07:53
delightPhinnFort: is you skecil working on your feisty/i386 ? ... mine is crashing coredump on start07:53
PhinnFortdelight: i don't use skencil07:53
PhinnForti use inkscape07:53
sybuxI'm using Kontact to read IMAP mail. I'd like Kontact move all mail marked as SPAM by spamassasin to specific folder07:53
buzfor 3rd time today, my x session didnt respond to keyboard entries anymore, mouse still worked, switching to text console worked with k menu, where keyboard worked.07:53
buzanything i can do to fix that?07:53
delightPhinnFort: Inkscape is the best even thou Xara Xtreme has some nice features07:54
stevec_sybux: do this using procmail07:54
DJServersdamn07:54
DJServerscouldend start apache :(07:54
sybuxstevec_: nope : postfix07:54
PhinnFortdelight: tried it, it was very smooth, but it did lack some features compared to inkscape07:54
stevec_sybux: you use procmail to move your mail to folder07:55
sybuxstevec_: under windows I use Thunderbird and it's working fine. I just want to retreive the same07:55
stevec_sybux: i have the following in my ~/.procmailrc07:55
stevec_sybux: edit ~/.procmailrc and enter the folowwing07:55
ReMiiRuruI have big problem with nvidia drivers, which might be kernel or BIOS bug, but it's too much to describe, so if anyone feels like helping I can give them more details... So, anyone?07:55
timmayPhinnFort: omg it's so much easier than windows O.O LOL07:55
PhinnFort;)07:56
PhinnFortwelcome to the light side;)07:56
stevec_sybux:07:56
stevec_MAILDIR=$HOME/.maildir/07:56
stevec_DEFAULT=$MAILDIR07:56
stevec_SPAM_FOLDER= $MAILDIR/.Spam/07:56
timmay;)07:56
stevec_:0:07:56
stevec_* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes07:56
stevec_$SPAM_FOLDER07:56
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PhinnFort!pastebin | stevec_07:57
ubotustevec_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:57
stevec_i kna man, pastebin easnt working tho and couldnt be arsed to fanny about finding another one07:57
PhinnFortstevec_: ask, then07:57
sybuxstevec_: I don't have mailbox on my computer. It's on a remote computer so I haven't any local .maildir07:57
PhinnFortrafb.net/paste07:57
stevec_sybux: ah ok then07:58
_Fadehi everyone, im having trouble installing kubuntu on an IBM Netvista 8319-M1G PC, can anyone help?07:58
timmaywhoa WTF....i haven't had sound all day and every sound just went through the speaker at once....i hope that's not normal07:58
timmayLOL07:58
PhinnFort_Fade: elaborate?07:58
BluesKaj!pastebin | ReMiiRuru stevec07:58
ubotuReMiiRuru stevec: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:58
stevec_BluesKaj: ive already been told man!07:58
PhinnFort:P07:58
BluesKajpastebin.ca is faster , not as busy07:58
PhinnFortanyone know where I can get new blender debs?07:58
PhinnFortfor 2.4407:59
PhinnFortrafb.net/paste is my favourite;)07:59
_Fadeim using the desktop disc of feisty, it boots to the install menu ok, an i hit enter to continue the installation, after that the screen goes black, theres some disc activity an then it just stays like that07:59
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PhinnFort_Fade: how much ram is it on the computer you're trying to install to?08:00
_Fade786 mb08:00
DRUNKENTSTEINdid you check your media?08:00
ReMiiRuruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21590/ This is more detailed info on my problem then.08:00
BluesKajPhinnFort, maybe the ops should load it in the ubotu scrpts08:00
DRUNKENTSTEINperhaps it's hust had some scratch on it ..or something like that08:00
stevec_might as well ask my own question, the boot splash installed by default doesnt seem to like my monitor, out of range message and i just get a blank screen, i have to disable spalsh in grub.conf08:00
PhinnFortBluesKaj: well, I don't care to bother #ubuntu-ops now;)08:00
_Fadethe specs of the machine are fine08:00
DJServersdamn08:00
DJServers!apache08:00
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)08:00
stevec_anyway of fixing that?08:00
DRUNKENTSTEINhey.. anybody here using a freshly installed kubuntu? aside from me08:01
UKESN|Javaxbbs going for dinner08:01
DJServersdamn08:01
DJServersi have install lampp but only apache wond start :P08:01
stevec_DRUNKENTSTEIN: mine is frshly installed on this comp08:01
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_FadeDRUNKENTSTEIN: trying to m8, cant get it installed08:01
DRUNKENTSTEINcool..same here08:01
PhinnFort_Fade: did you run a cd-check?08:01
Jacko2007drunkentstein, mine is about 4 weeks old08:01
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DRUNKENTSTEINhey...did you get mp3 support running for amarok?08:01
Jacko2007I have lost my WINE shortcuts in my start menu08:01
PhinnFortDJServers: try Lighttpd08:01
Jacko2007drunkentstein, mine is about 4 weeks old08:01
stevec_DRUNKENTSTEIN: i got mp3 working in amarok08:01
josh_guys08:01
_FadePhinnFort: no havent tried that08:02
Jacko2007drunkentstein, installing the mpegcodec08:02
PhinnFortDJServers: also, try "sudo /etc/init.d/apache start"08:02
DRUNKENTSTEINoh..you didn't havea provlme?08:02
josh_is there a way to tell adept to look for a package that has been updated08:02
stevec_DRUNKENTSTEIN: remember the problem but not the solution! :-)08:02
PhinnFort_Fade: could be a bad burn08:02
Black_Maskhow to install windows xp after installing ubuntu?08:02
Jacko2007sudo apt-get install mpeg-codec08:02
DRUNKENTSTEINI mean ..problem ?08:02
josh_cuz ndiswrapper is 1.38 on there but there is 1.44 on the site08:02
Jacko2007I have lost my WINE shortcuts in my start menu08:02
DRUNKENTSTEIN'cause mine just hangs up whenever I run amarok08:02
Jacko2007what should I do08:02
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josh_there have been a few releases since then08:02
stevec_Jacko2007: what start menu? this isnt windows man! :-)08:02
_FadePhinnFort: hmm, ive tried three diff distros so far, kubuntu, ubuntu an PClinuxOS08:02
Jacko2007stevec, ok then K menu lol I am a windows and a linux users give me some slack lol08:03
DJServersPhinnFort, That Dusnt Work08:03
stevec_lol ;-)08:03
_FadePhinnFort: an im currently downloading the alterate kubuntu disc08:03
sybuxDRUNKENTSTEIN: have try to run in a shell /usr/lib/amarok/install-mp3 script ?08:03
masterk!time08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
masterk!clock08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
stevec_!ntp08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:04
DRUNKENTSTEINsybux: yeps..it hangs up after I run that08:04
mo0osah_how do share files with virtualbox08:04
Jacko2007!ntp08:04
DRUNKENTSTEINactually..that's how it started.. at first, it runs ok.. and can play tha sample file08:04
masterk!ibm thinkpad08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ibm thinkpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:04
sybuxDRUNKENTSTEIN: strange, I've run it this afternoon and all was perfect08:04
stevec_!anything08:04
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.08:04
stevec_:-)08:04
masterklol08:04
DRUNKENTSTEINbut after it prompts you to install that support, it hangs my pc08:04
ReMiiRuruSo, anyone has any idead on nvidia problem described here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21590/ ?08:04
ReMiiRuru*ideas08:05
DRUNKENTSTEINsybux: really? ..I just installed my.. and actually that's one of the main reasons why I'm here right now..ehehhe08:05
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sybuxDRUNKENTSTEIN: not in shell it just install and do not ask any question08:05
BluesKajReMiiRuru, have you tried Envy : http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html08:05
DRUNKENTSTEINsybux: yeps.. tried that too.. same thing happens08:05
Jacko2007I have lost my WINE shortcuts in my k menu08:05
ReMiiRuruBluesKaj: First, yes, I did, 2nd, it's one of least reccomended way of install AFAIK08:05
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DRUNKENTSTEINI'm trying to find out why ..so I can use amarok08:05
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Aloneaok, my friend tried to use envy to get 3d accel on his nvidia card, but it didn't work. I don't know the name of driver it was before. Vesa works, but the screen is huge, nv didn't work...so what is it supposed to be?08:06
orehonHow can I lock the kde session when the laptop is closed?08:06
masterk!amarok08:06
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok08:06
PhinnForti think envy is deprecated08:06
masterk!envy08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:06
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AloneaI mean on mine, I just changed it back to ati, and it was fine again. I use envy on mine without problems08:07
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BluesKajReMiiRuru, the ati driver Envy install didn't provide DRI for google earth so i dumped envy08:07
PhinnFort!nvidia08:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:07
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Quassandrahey, has anyone got any problems with ubuntu when i boot from a cd to install it says "Loading the Linux kernal" but it just freezez at 100% and goes nowhere, any idea's?08:08
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ReMiiRuruPhinnFort: Following instructions on the link provided by bot gives me the same problems as any other form of installation.08:08
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timmayPhinnFort: i'm getting an error when i install that program08:09
PhinnForttimmay: ?08:09
AloneaPhinnFort: ok, that doesa not tell me what the original name of the driver was...08:09
timmayPhinnFort: gonna try the ol windows fix, uninstall and reinstall LOL08:09
timmayPhinnFort: the video codec08:09
PhinnFort;)08:09
andrehow do you configure ubuntu to start certain programs on start-up?08:09
PhinnFortah, ok08:10
BluesKajReMiiRuru, just keep searching google ..that's how i found a fix for my ati card on feisty08:10
PhinnFortandre: put a link to them in "~/.kde/Autostart", where ~ is your home folder08:10
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andrethanks08:10
ReMiiRuruBluesKaj: I tried searching google for 2 weeks now.08:10
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x3xciao08:13
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timmayPhinnFort: the codec isn't installling, it keeps giving an error08:13
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PhinnForttimmay: what exactly are you doing?08:14
BluesKajReMiiRuru, http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#nvidia-driv08:15
timmaygoing to the add/remove program and adding Ubuntu restricted extras package08:15
timmaywhen i apply the changes it goes through like it's working and then doesn't work08:15
PhinnForttimmay: and what error is it giving you?08:15
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timmaylet me go through it again real quick08:15
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PhinnForttimmay: we'll cheat, then;)08:17
timmayPhinnFort: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages08:18
DJServersYES!!! MY APACHE IS WORKING!!! YEEHAA!!!\08:18
PhinnForttimmay: just type "sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs" in a konsole08:18
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DJServersthx for your help all!08:19
timmayok trying that08:19
PhinnForttimmay: that's what I did to get the codecs, anyways, and it works here08:20
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BluesKaj!fix-lockup08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix-lockup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
os2mactrying to get java runtime installed on firefox under kubuntu.... can anyone help?08:22
BluesKaj!adept-lock08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
PhinnFort!java | os2mac08:22
ubotuos2mac: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.08:22
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timmayPhinnFort: *sigh* now when i click to play the trailer using real 300k it is saying i'm missing plugins08:23
masterkdoes anyone know how to make standby, suspend, and hibernate work on an ibm thinkpad?08:23
timmayinstead of using kaffeine08:23
nicolai_timmay: have you remembered to add the medibuntu key?08:23
PhinnForttimmay: hmmm...08:23
BluesKaj!apt-lock08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
PhinnFort!medibuntu08:23
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/08:23
BluesKajgeezus08:23
nicolai_BluesKaj: is Adept locked-up?08:24
Aloneaook, on the binary driver how to, it says goto system, administration, but i dont have that08:24
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PhinnForttimmay: run "wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" in a console08:24
PhinnForttimmay: then run "sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"08:24
os2macPhinnFort: I believe I have java installed in Kubuntu correctly... what I am trying to do is install it on Firefox under kubuntu08:24
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PhinnFortos2mac: I don't use Firefox, but I think you might have to enable it somewhere08:25
PhinnForttimmay: and finally run "sudo apt-get update"08:25
DJServersi have one last question08:25
timmayk i'll try it08:25
DJServershow to put files in apache for sites?08:25
nicolai_timmay: after you follow PhinnForts advise remember to update your repositories08:25
DJServersi can put a map in /etc/apache2/sites-available08:26
PhinnFortnicolai_: that was the last command;)08:26
DJServerscant08:26
os2macok this is where... I click on manage repositories in Adept and it get updates...08:26
os2macs/where/weird08:26
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DJServershow do i put a map in: /etc/apache2/sites-available it says that i sould check permissions08:26
BluesKajnicolai_, I'm trying to trigger the obuto response to an adept or apt lockup when a broken pkg has frozen it08:27
nicolai_PhinnFort: I just didn't see the last part :p08:27
PhinnFort:P08:27
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nicolai_BluesKaj: I know how to fix that08:27
nicolai_2 sec08:27
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PhinnForttimmay: there should appear a tiny yellow package in the lower right corner of your screen after the last command is finished. Click it, and update08:27
PhinnFortbut now I have to go08:27
BluesKajok give us the cmnd so we can sote it in my txt file08:27
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BluesKajstore it08:28
Lars_GI am not god08:28
nicolai_BluesKaj: first you need to remove the lock08:28
nicolai_BluesKaj: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock08:28
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nicolai_BluesKaj: then you need to fix the broken dependencies08:29
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nicolai_BluesKaj: dpkg --configure -a08:29
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rollerskatejammsAnybody know where SoundKonverter saves ripped songs?08:30
BluesKajthx nicolai_ , i keep those cmnds in a txt file for reference but forgot to save it on the other pc before my latest clean install08:31
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DJServerswhere do i put my site files in apache??08:31
nicolai_BluesKaj: I usually send myself an email ;)08:31
nicolai_BluesKaj: I trust Gmail more than my computer :P08:31
rommelHello, Im a newbie, and I am trying to open a ubunto share in windows, I already changed my samba password and when I try to login i enter the samba user name and password and tells me that multiple connections to a server o share resourse by the same user08:31
timmayugh it's still not work08:31
timmaying08:31
timmayPF-Away: still not working :/08:32
root___exit08:32
timmayPF-Away: and there was no icon on the lower right08:32
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nicolai_rollerskaterjamms: I have never tried the program, but have you checked after hidden folders in your home directory?08:32
thingyrommel, that means youve already got a connection to that resource using different credentials...either use something like net use /d or log out and back in again to access using the credentials you want to use08:32
PF-Awaytimmay: do "sudo aptitude upgrade"08:32
PF-Awaythen08:32
rommelOK08:33
rommellet me try08:33
nicolai_rollerskatejamms: I have never tried the program, but have you checked after hidden folders in your home directory?08:33
BluesKajnicolai_, darn good idea :)08:33
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DJServersHello!!?? Some One Nows Where to put my site script in apache???08:33
rommelis there a way that I can see in UBUNTU the connections in it?08:33
rollerskatejammsnicolai_, looking08:34
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rollerskatejammsbut thats a silly place to save mp3s08:34
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thingyrommel, man smbstatus08:34
timmayPF-Away: ok that's done08:34
nicolai_rollerskatejamms: That is where Amarok saves podcasts if you haven't told it something else08:34
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DJServersHEY!!??? some one nows or not!! ???08:34
rollerskatejammsnicolai_, Yeah well they arent in .kde anywhere08:35
rommelok08:35
DJServersHEEY! ?>??08:35
nicolai_rollerskatejamms: KAudioCreator might be a good alternative then :)08:36
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rollerskatejammsnicolai_, I already did the rip08:36
nicolai_rollerskatejamms: Have you tried searching for the name of one of the songs?08:37
rollerskatejammsnicolai_, doing that now08:37
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eljefedoes anyone notice that sound is a lot more quiet in 7.04 than in previous releases or other distributions?  I have even swapped out my soundcard but everything is more quiet...08:38
rollerskatejammsjust did find / -name 'three weeks'08:38
rollerskatejammsdid nothing08:38
BluesKaj!grub08:38
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:38
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nicolai_eljefe: It might be because PCM setting is at a lower level, but yeah, I noticed too.08:40
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nicolai_eljefe: I also find it sounds better at the same level though :s08:40
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rommelthingy-> Thanks that solved the issue. how many connections can I have in a ubuntu share?08:42
thingyrommel, as many as you want....depending on avail mem/disk/network bandwidth etc08:43
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rommelthingy->Niceeeeeeeeee08:44
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masterk!firefox08:44
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:44
rommel512Kb Ram,70GB is that ok for more than 15 people?08:44
rommelfor ubuntu desktop08:45
masterkkb? don't you mean mb?08:45
rommelsorry08:45
rommelmb08:45
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me882hello08:45
masterkI was about to say....08:45
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rommelhahahahaha08:45
rommelthat was a computer from the 80's08:45
nicolai_rollerskatejamms: It seems to need the exact name in my case :@. Try searching for it in "metainfo" in the second tab.08:45
ReMiiRuruBluesKaj: I have announcement and a question for you. Announcement: The method on the site didn't work. Question: Why do linux people seem to always assume installing the drivers with one step slightly different than other methods will solve my problem?08:46
me882i installed nvidia-glx-new now i cant start kubuntu any more i have a geforce go 660008:46
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masterki remember my old 4mb computer... it was an ibm08:46
masterkbut that was the lowest amount of ram I've ever had08:46
rommeli had an apple 64 then my ast windows x386 machine had 640kb ram08:47
rommelrunning dos 2.108:47
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rommelI installing ubuntu last night and so far I like it.... it reminds me my old days of unix08:48
rommelbut i like it08:48
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Zeelothello, does anyone here know how to get the time in the video I am at in kaffeine using dcop? like 3:27 in a 10:00 video?08:49
BluesKajReMiiRuru, well, we're not all aware that the methods you tried previously were only slightly different than the one suggested. Only thing to do is keep searching ... sometimes one finds oneself in a 'unique' situation and it's difficult for anyone to find a solution to it08:50
Zeelotthere is a getTimePos() but all it returns is int like 408:50
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timmayPF-Away: thanks for your help...i gotta get going08:51
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ReMiiRuruBluesKaj:  So I'll go about updating my paste to note that for people ._. I tried so many installing methods it's making me feel sick...08:51
mackeAnyone who has goten SketchUp working under wine?08:52
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buzReMiiRuru: where does that paste note live08:53
ReMiiRuruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21594/ now here08:53
BluesKajReMiiRuru, I felt the same way after updating from a perfectly good setup on edgy ... almost there except for my tv capture cards probs and it doesn't look promising that i'll solve it or find a fix08:54
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buzgf5200 works in myl laptop (wish i could say the same about the new x1400 in the new laptop), so sorry, i cant help08:54
nicolai_ReMiiRuru: are you trying to fix a broken system or start anew?08:55
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ReMiiRurunicolai_: up until 2 days ago I was trying to fix broken system, but I have reinstalled it recently08:56
Zeelotno one? =(08:56
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nicolai_ReMiiRuru: My own method of installing my 6600 is first to install nvidia-glx and then go to "system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> config -> proprietary"08:58
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nicolai_I generally find KDE knows best :)08:59
nicolai_gotta go08:59
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domAnyone can help me, I installed Kubuntu and would like to know how can I see the version of this distribution.09:00
K-Ryan!version | dom09:00
ubotudom: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell09:00
domThanks Ubotu09:02
K-RyanUbotu is a bot =P09:02
K-Ryan!ubotu09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot =p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:02
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stanley_hi guys09:04
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stanley_how do i hide files stored in folders?09:04
stanley_music files. video files, documents09:04
chi0hello all09:04
stanley_is there a way to hide them??09:04
K-RyanHi stanley and chi009:04
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Lynourestanley_: hide from who?09:05
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K-RyanI was thinking, hide what? No matter...09:05
stanley_well i just don;t want them to appear when file browsing09:05
K-RyanI know there's an app that will spread one file into other files leaving it completely hidden to other people.09:05
rommelI just created a folder using sudo mkdir foldername command, now I would like to take ownership of this folder09:05
rommel?09:05
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chi0sorry but off tipic does any 1 know were i can get the kde4 icon set, you know the oxygen 1s ?09:06
RytmenPinnenhow do I restart the part that controls sound in linux? I just lost it for some reason09:06
tsdgeosrommel: sudo chown yourUsername:yourGroup09:06
tsdgeosrommel: sudo chown yourUsername:yourGroup theDirectory09:06
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Lynourestanley_: you can search on the location bar, too.. I'd advice against hiding all except ultraimportant stuff and recommend rather separating that ultraimportant stuff into it's own directory tree09:08
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stanley_yea i have done that09:08
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stanley_putting the ultra important stuff in it's own folder09:09
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K-Ryan!wine09:10
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:10
Lynourestanley_: at least adding a . to the beginning of a name hides it, but there might be some GUI way too09:10
stanley_thas what i'm thinkin09:10
stanley_thanx alot anyway09:10
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SJrXHow can I enable the SSH server on Kubuntu?09:12
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unnutz!info openssh-server | SJrX09:13
ubotusjrx: openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB09:13
SlimeyPeteSJrX: use adept or apt-get to install openssh-server09:13
K-RyanOkay I'm completely new to Wine and just reading a how to isn't working for me.09:13
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K-RyanThis tahoma.ttf font, it says put it in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts09:13
SJrXaren't I suppose to be doing this thru the GUI or something09:13
Ace2016Hi all09:13
K-RyanWhere would that be? I'm running Kubuntu and installed from the repositories so it is in the default location,.09:13
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Ace2016is it possible to stop a kernel half way and continue later09:14
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Ace2016like put it on hold so it doesn't use system resources and watch a video and let it continue?09:14
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Ace2016well i want to watch this episode i just got and it has an awesome cliff hanger and i need to see what happens now!09:15
K-RyanOh damn, I said all that in the wrong channel.09:15
adaptrAce2016 if you stop the kernel you killed your session, and any other sessions running09:15
K-RyanIf anyone here can help though, don't hold back =)09:15
Ace2016adaptr: stop the compiling and continue from where it left off, not stop the running kernel, i'm compiling a new one09:16
Ace2016how do i give ultra high priority to mplayer?09:16
adaptrAce2016 and I should have guessed this how ?09:16
adaptrAce2016 just stop it, of course: ctrl-Z09:16
adaptrAce2016 and "fg" to continue09:17
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just-this-timehow do I get on kubuntu K menuu ->help help on kde apps09:17
adaptrAce2016 but it's generally a lot smarter to just nice it09:17
just-this-timenow default gives unix manual only09:17
adaptrjust-this-time you need to install the help, probably09:17
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Ace2016adaptr: thanks thats sooooo cool09:17
domHi, I m looking a way to minimize all the GUI application that are open in my desktop and this in one step (e.g push on a button) can someone help me09:17
adaptrAce2016 really, learn to use nice09:17
adaptrnice 10 make bzimage will make it run at a very low priority09:18
buzyeah well he'd likely need to nice the running pid09:18
Ace2016adaptr: i used to use kdesu ksysguard to do it but i ended up making everything unstable09:18
Ace2016adaptr: i'll remember that09:19
adaptrAce2016 don't us ethe crappy GUI stuff to do real tasks :)09:19
mrwizrdi just want to say i love linux09:20
mrwizrdreally really :D09:20
Ace2016adaptr: gui stuff make me aware of the features, then if i need to know more i try to find stuff out ;)09:20
adaptrAce2016 I have no idea what you mean by that09:20
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mrwizrdafter i got the ms fonts from my xp install and set em up right, i was in heaven09:21
mrwizrd(god knows those fonts are... just no, okay?)09:21
Ace2016adaptr: i never knew what niceness was before i saw it in ksysguard, so i guess gui stuff makes people know that you can do something in linux09:21
adaptrAce2016 reading a good introduction to POSIX OSes and *nix in particualr does that, too :)09:21
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adaptrthere are many good guides, alas not too many good ones about basic job control and shell programming09:22
Ace2016so much to read so little time09:22
adaptryou need the skillz, you do the time09:22
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mrwizrdcan anyone offer me some help on getting rid of windows?09:25
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mrwizrd(without killing kubuntu/my partitions)09:26
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adaptrmrwizrd mke2fs /dev/whatever - there, all gone09:26
mrwizrdadaptr: I have ubuntu installed in the mbr09:27
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mrwizrdand grub gives me the option to load ubuntu/ubuntu (generic)/memtest/winxp09:27
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adaptryes, so ?09:28
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buscojuegosola09:29
buscojuegosalguien me puede ayudar?09:29
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buscojuegos[GuS] :09:30
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buscojuegos_dennis_:09:30
buscojuegos_hansen_:09:30
adaptr!es | buscojuegos09:30
buscojuegos_max_:09:30
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ubotubuscojuegos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:30
buscojuegossorry09:30
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mrwizrdi have (xpsystem) (ubunturoot) (ubuntuswap) (ubuntuhome) (swap) (files)09:30
K-RyanThanks adaptr, I was just doing that =P09:30
adaptrbuscojuegos please quit that shit NOW09:30
buscojuegosgoodbye09:30
adaptrindeed09:30
mrwizrdis the mbr seperate from any one partition?09:30
adaptryes09:30
mrwizrdokay... that's all i was unsure about..09:31
adaptrmaybe try a quick stop at wikipedia next time ?09:31
mrwizrd*nods*09:31
mrwizrdapologies09:31
LeeJunFanmrwizrd: yes the mbr is in it's own space, then right after that are the tables which hold your partition, then after that the actual partitions.09:31
adaptrjust typing in "mbr" gets you more info than even I find useful09:31
buscojuegoshello?09:32
buscojuegoscan you help me?09:32
mrwizrdI just wanted to be sure... I don't want to lose this data09:32
buscojuegosi want write and read a NTFS partition09:32
buscojuegoshow can i do taht?09:32
mrwizrdthough i've finally decided i can dump windows and multibooting and go full on linux09:32
LeeJunFan!ntfs | buscojuegos09:33
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ubotubuscojuegos: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:33
mrwizrdbuscojuegos:sudo apt-get install ntfs-config09:33
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adaptrmrwizrd why delete it at all, then ? wait until you find you don't even think about those dark days anymore, and then one day wake up and htink: NOW I'm gonna get my disk space back!09:33
adaptrit'll be like a little birthday09:33
mrwizrdhaha09:34
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mrwizrdadaptr: what kind of level are you? I've seen your nick in a lot of places..09:34
ulrich__hey, is there any kind of system reset like windows has? ^09:34
buscojuegosmrwizard thanks, but when i try to install that, my pc say me, "Other process is working whit this directory"09:34
buscojuegoscan you understand me?09:34
buscojuegosi spanish, i can speak english very well09:34
buscojuegos:S09:34
adaptrmrwizrd what kind of... level ? what kind of.. question is that ?09:35
mrwizrdadaptr: sorry i sound like an MMORPG09:35
adaptrbuscojuegos yes, we all witnessed that... too bad we can't say the same for your powers of observation09:35
ulrich__hello ?09:35
nicolai_adaptr: I think he means noob - beginner - intermediate - power user etc09:35
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mrwizrdbuscojuegos: is synaptic or system update running?09:35
adaptrbuscojuegos get out of synaptic and/or adept, only one package tool can run at once09:35
mrwizrd^^ what he said09:36
buscojuegosmrwizrd i dont think so, but i dont sure09:36
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buscojuegoshow can i finish taht process?09:36
adaptrnicolai_ yes, I _understand_ what the newbie meant, but that doesn't mean he should get away with asking it09:36
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LeeJunFan!adeptfix-crash09:36
K-Ryanulrich__ I don't think I've seen one but there probably is if you need one, why do you need it?09:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptfix-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:36
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nicolai_adaptr: :p09:37
mrwizrdadaptr is right nicolai.. I need to learn to ask questions properly09:37
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adaptrbuscojuegos if you're sure, remove the lock file09:37
mrwizrdi do a decent job, most of the time :P09:37
buscojuegosadaptr how can i do that?09:37
K-Ryan!aptfix | LeeJunFan09:37
ulrich__K-Ryan: i tried to install a package with the adept installer thingy and entered at the wrong place and now i cant access the adept anymore and some other stuff like "apt-get update wont work either09:37
nicolai_mrwizrd: In the context, I would have seen it as a compliment.09:37
ubotuLeeJunFan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:37
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K-Ryanulrich try that command that ubotu just said.09:38
LeeJunFanK-Ryan: yeah, thanks :) was for buscojuegos :)09:38
ulrich__i tried it09:38
K-RyanAh, no problem ;)09:38
K-RyanNothing ulrich__?09:38
ulrich__what is fuser?09:38
K-RyanI'm not sure to be honest, just part of the command to me.09:38
LeeJunFanK-Ryan: there's like 30 freakin' factoids for that issue and I can never remember one of them.09:39
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buscojuegosplease help me :(09:39
ulrich__does any text has to appear when i enter this ?09:39
nicolai_if it doesnt't work then sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock would do instead09:39
adaptrbuscojuegos rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock09:39
K-Ryanno ulrich__, nothing else will pop up.09:39
ulrich__okay09:39
K-RyanBut try running adept after it09:39
ulrich__i did09:40
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ulrich__same nothin changed09:40
mrwizrdis it possible to run MSN Live Messenger on GNU/Linux using Mono? (LM needs the .NET Framework)09:40
K-RyanHmm09:40
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K-RyanWhat was the last thing you typed in before it stopped working?09:40
nicolai_mrwizrd: It would probably be easier using wine09:40
buscojuegosadaptr:  thanks :)09:41
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ulrich__errr okay ill tell you: at first i only wanted to get skype working because nobody was able to hear me.. a guy from the german kbuntu channel (which wasnt very helpfuly.y) told me to download a package from this site "http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/" what i did i mean i copied the text and entered into the adept but i guess i entered it at the wrong place...09:42
buscojuegosadaptr:  i cant install nothing :(09:43
buscojuegosthe same error09:43
buscojuegosin spanish is09:43
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buscojuegosOtro proceso est utilizando la base de datos del sistema de paquetes (probablemente otra aplicacin Adept o apt-get o aptitude). Por favor cierre la otra aplicacin antes de utilizar esta.09:43
K-RyanYou tried to add a repository?09:43
buscojuegosin english....09:43
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K-RyanThe process is being used by a different program.09:44
buscojuegosother process is working whit the database. Please, close the other aplication bbefore try to use this09:44
buscojuegosK-Ryan:  What process?09:44
dwidmannmrwizrd: seeing as it would require compiling it, and the source isn't available, no.09:44
buscojuegosi cant see it09:44
polopolohello, does someone know a program for kubuntu that rip you're dvd recordings?09:44
K-RyanI don't know, it doesn't say.09:44
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dwidmannpolopolo: dvdrip09:45
polopolodvdrip, ok, thank you09:45
buzk9copy09:45
K-RyanThe people on the Wine channel aren't answering me so I'll ask just real quick. Does anyone know if Steam needs more than tahoma.ttf because the text isn't showing up...09:45
nicolai_buscojuegos: open ksysguard and search for both adept and synaptic09:45
polopolok9copy09:46
polopolook09:46
nicolai_ulrich__: what version of Kubuntu are you running?09:46
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polopoloAlso a question, can that program also rip in divx?09:47
felix_where can i find GLIB ??09:47
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polopolodvdrip and k9copy?09:47
ulrich__nicolai: the newest..09:47
dwidmannpolopolo: dvdrip ... erm, I think it does xvid or mp4, possibly theora, don't think it does divx09:48
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slougifelix_: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-009:48
felix_thanks09:48
slougifelix_: or libglib1.2, depending which version you want09:48
mrwizrdnicolai: has it been made to work in the past?09:49
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polopolook, and how to edit a video? (so I does not need do see the tv-ads when I see the rpogram again ;))09:49
nicolai_mrwizrd: you have to type nicolai_ if you want to be sure I notice what you write09:50
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dwidmannpolopolo: dunno, I've never edited any before. I think a program oh, what was its name ...09:50
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dwidmanncinelerra was one09:51
nicolai_mrwizrd: I have no idea about live. I use Kopete. :)09:51
dwidmannkino is another09:51
dwidmannand I still can't think of the other one that I liked the looks of09:51
zorglu_dwidmann: do you actually use them ?09:51
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dwidmannnope, I just know that quite a many other people do09:52
mrwizrdthe only reason i *really* want the live client is for plus's logging features..09:52
dwidmannand I make it my business to know things, zorglu_09:52
mrwizrdi have over a years worth of logs and i'd like to keep the formats consistent09:52
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polopoloI gonna try, thank you all for you're help09:52
zorglu_dwidmann: because i tried hard to find a way to edit movie on linux and fails to find any working software09:52
nicolai_ulrich__: I think I've found what you need09:52
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zorglu_dwidmann: many halfbacked ones do exist. but none was actually working09:53
dwidmannzorglu: I'm still trying to think of that other one, I know it wasn't done yet, but it was looking like it showed quite a lot of potential09:53
nicolai_ulrich__: try command:    sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:53
buzkdenlive09:53
THey all09:53
dwidmannbuz: there we go, thanks, cat had my tongue09:53
tsdgeoszorglu_: kino?09:54
zorglu_dwidmann: im guessing you think about pitivy ?09:54
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buznot quite finished but showing great potential fits perfectly for that one09:54
dwidmanntsdgeos: already mentioned09:54
tsdgeosok :D09:54
arooAnyone know where default KDE themes/styles are located?09:54
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ionusany soft for siemens tel09:57
aroo?09:57
ionusto read filesistem09:57
ionusin kubuntu09:57
ionusplease help me09:57
ionus!!09:57
arooUm what?09:57
ionus!siemens09:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about siemens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:57
ionuslisten i have siemens sk65 and i want to put in one photo09:58
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nicolai_aroo: http://www.kde-look.org/09:59
aroonicolai_: I'm well aware of that site09:59
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aroonicolai_: my question was regarding the filesystem placement09:59
ionussomeone please help me09:59
dkkongIs there a way to get my Lexmark All in one at least printing in Kubuntu?09:59
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nicolai_aroo: ahh. perhaps in /home/aroo/.kde ? :P10:00
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nicolai_aroo: just a guess10:00
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aroonicolai_: already checked that10:01
ionusoi blea10:01
ionuseste cineva10:01
ionus!!!10:01
ionushelp me please10:01
arooionus maybe no one knows10:02
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ionusok10:03
ionusbut with tv tuners10:03
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ionusany soft for avermedia 00710:03
ionusaroo?10:03
AeosI burned the iso to a dvd and when I ran it off the disc and all it did was spew errors10:03
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UKESN|Javaxhttp://www.ukesn.org/index.php?q=story_comments&id=25710:03
ionusyooui now?10:03
ionus!avermedia10:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avermedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:03
arooionus, I have no idea10:04
aroonicolai_, found it, /usr/share/apps/kthememanager/themes10:04
Aeosit got passed the initial loading screen, I chose both normal and graphic safe mode and it loaded some drivers, complained about others, then simply halted10:04
nicolai_ionus: an Adept search for siemens gave scmmx as a possible candidate10:06
nicolai_ionus: "scmmx: Exchange data with Siemens mobil phones"10:07
Aeosif the live disc doesnt work it is safe to assume an install wont be as painless as claimed?10:08
nicolai_ionus: "See the website http://www.hendrik-sattler.de/scmxx for details"10:08
dkkongGuess it's back to windows because of lack of printer :/10:08
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ionusmerci10:08
ionusmersi10:08
aroodkkong, you've been in here about 8 minutes and you gave up already?10:08
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ulrich__nicolai: okay and then ? paste it ?10:09
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nicolai_ulrich__: my plan was foiled somewhat by the medibuntu server being down :/10:09
nicolai_ulrich__: bad timing :/10:09
dkkongNo.. that would be after I've been hammering with the Lexmark Printer Driver on their site that's not compatible with my printer, the Kooka not being able to even see my printer as a scanner, and failing after trying to get the Printers wizard to see it on the usb drive10:10
nicolai_ulrich__: ahh. It's up now :D10:10
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ionusnicolai u are rusian?10:11
Ayabaraanyone know of a media library application for kubuntu? one that can scan my music, video and image folders, give me search capabilities and let me launch stuff in my favorite players?10:11
dkkongOh.. and it failing after trying to install it under a VMware session10:12
Aeosshould I not use Fiesty Fawn and try the more stable version10:12
ionusu now rusian or romanian10:12
gemidjyany idea on how can I grep for Binary characters, such as <feff> ?10:12
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nicolai_ulrich__: try   sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list10:13
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ulrich__okay10:14
ulrich__empty document10:14
nicolai_ulrich__: it should contain four lines. two commented (starting with ##) and two starting with deb10:14
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ulrich__no nothing10:14
nicolai_hmm10:15
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nicolai_deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free10:15
nicolai_deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free10:15
ulrich__means? ^10:15
nicolai_add those two lines10:15
nicolai_and then save10:15
ulrich__enter it in the terminal ?10:16
nicolai_in kate10:16
usuariohey10:16
nicolai_they are repositories10:16
nicolai_This is where you get packages from10:16
Aeosanyone know if the failure to be able to run the live disc is because My laptop drivers arent available? is it because I chose Fiesty Fawn? I was under the impression that the Live Disc simply would run... I have a 64bit processor.... should I try the 32 binary?10:17
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ulrich__only enter this in medubuntu.list?10:17
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nicolai_ulrich__: wait. I got a better idea10:18
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zorglu_Aeos: 32bit worth trying in your case10:18
zorglu_in my opinion10:19
nicolai_ulrich__: exit kate without saving10:19
BlissexAeos: some systems may have odd peripherals, not everything is supported. The drivers should be the same in the 32bit and 64 bit versions.10:19
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ulrich__too late ^10:19
BlissexAeos: but some work less well in 64 bit mode. Depends on what is failing.10:19
nicolai_hehe10:19
Ayabarais there a way to make mplayer display the movie title in the title bar?10:19
K-RyanWhat's the wine package called?10:19
nicolai_then retype the "sudo kate..." code and delete it10:19
ulrich__i did10:20
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Aeosthis might seems stupid but is the ISO compatible with DVD? or should it be burned to a CD10:20
nicolai_ulrich__: ok. in konsole type wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -10:20
zorglu_Ayabara: for the indexing, look at apps like 'strigi'10:21
ulrich__okay and then ?10:21
Ayabarazorglu_: thanks for the tip10:21
nicolai_ulrich__: it should say "OK"10:21
Aeosi will try the non-fiesty fawn  32 bit kubuntu10:21
amorphous_I'm trying to use ssh to access 2 different accounts on the same machine. 1 of these accounts i want to log into (using passphrase (rsa)) - the other account I want to use scripts & so no passphrase, but only use scp (no login) for security. Is this possible?10:21
ulrich__well after the sudo apt-key add - it says nothin10:21
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BluesKajwhat plugin am I missing ...suddenly kaffeine no longer plays .avi files properly ...the video is stretched diagonaly like a scramler does ...any suggestions ?10:22
nicolai_ulrich__: wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -10:22
zorglu_Ayabara: for the title in title bar, do you actually need mplayer, or kmplayer would do ?10:22
BluesKajerr scrambler10:22
ulrich__all at the same time ?10:22
nicolai_ulrich__: yep10:22
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Ayabarazorglu_: hm. don't know the difference at the moment :-)10:22
ulrich__OK ^10:23
zorglu_Ayabara: kmplayer is a kde front end to mplayer, less raw than mplayer.10:23
nicolai_ulrich__: then type this10:23
Aeoserr nm10:23
nicolai_sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list10:23
Aeosthanks for your help10:23
zorglu_Ayabara: on the same vibe, there is kaffeine too. which is a front end for 'xine' another movie player10:23
ulrich__oaky10:23
ulrich__okay*10:23
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just-this-timehi10:24
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just-this-time\o10:24
just-this-timepls attn10:24
amorphous_anyone..?10:24
just-this-timehttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php mentions KHelpCenter10:24
nicolai_ulrich__: now, you had problems with adept?10:24
ulrich__let me check...10:24
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just-this-timeanyone used KHelpCenter ?10:25
ulrich__still doesnt work...10:25
BluesKaj!avi10:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:25
K-Ryan!aptfix10:25
just-this-timeNew in 7.04 is the use of a topic based help system.10:25
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:25
nicolai_ulrich__: Yeah. I just needed to check. :)10:26
ulrich__okay=)10:26
just-this-timeBluesKaj:  ?have an idea ?^^^10:26
nicolai_ulrich__: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock10:26
BluesKajok just-this-time ...what is it ?10:26
Ayabarahm. kmplayer sounds worth trying out10:26
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ulrich__k10:26
nicolai_ulrich__: dpkg --configure -a10:26
just-this-time^^^10:26
just-this-timeNew in 7.04 is the use of a topic based help system.10:26
just-this-timeanyone used KHelpCenter ?10:26
ulrich__ok10:27
just-this-timehttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php mentions KHelpCenter10:27
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nicolai_ulrich__: does it respond?10:27
ulrich__nope still broken...10:27
nicolai_ulrich__: hmm...10:28
ulrich__mhm i guess the best would be total reinstall mhm ? ^10:28
nicolai_ulrich__: hehe10:28
nicolai_ulrich__: 2 sec10:28
ulrich__no im serious ^^10:28
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nicolai_ulrich__: yeah, but I want to try a few more things first :)10:29
Ayabaradoes kmplayer use my .mplayer/config file?10:29
ulrich__okay :D10:30
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nicolai_ulrich__: open Ksysguard and search for adept and synaptic10:30
ulrich__nicolai_: why do you know that much about kubuntu ? i mean how long do u use it ? ^10:30
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BluesKajVLC player plays the avi files np, but why doesn't kaffeine ?10:31
nicolai_ulrich__: 11 months :p10:31
Ace2016BluesKaj: kaffeine uses the xine backend which may not have its codecs installed10:31
ulrich__cool =)10:31
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shaggyoafhi, everybody. I recall seeing "performance profiles" in my kde laptop battery monitor's right-click menu a while back10:31
Ace2016BluesKaj: i've found that mplayer is the best for playing videos10:31
ulrich__okay theres one "adept_notifier" and no synaptic10:31
shaggyoafbut I've just updated to feisty kubuntu and they're gone now10:32
shaggyoafanybody know how I get them back?10:32
BluesKajAce2016,mplayer reacts the same way10:32
just-this-timeVLC is best self equipped player10:32
just-this-timeown codecs10:32
Ace2016BluesKaj: do you have w32codecs installed? might need them10:32
nicolai_ulrich__: no other version of adept? strange...10:32
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just-this-time!xine10:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:32
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nicolai_ulrich__: back to konsole. Type    sudo apt-get update10:33
just-this-time!codecs10:33
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BluesKajyup, got everything under the sun that i can think of installed w32, libdvdcss2, uname-it :)10:33
ulrich__E: Type 'packages-free-i386.db' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list10:33
nicolai_ulrich__: see if any errors arrive10:33
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Ace2016BluesKaj: what avi is this?10:33
K-RyanNobody is helping me in the Wine channel, does anyone know why if I'm running Steam, have fontforge installed, and have the tahoma.ttf font in the right folder, would Steam pop up without text?10:33
Ace2016BluesKaj: possible to give a link?10:34
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K-RyanAny ideas anyone?10:34
Ace2016K-Ryan: have you tried different wine versions? could be wine and not the config10:34
BluesKajall of the avi files i have , reat the same way ...anything that uses the xine-engine10:34
K-RyanI had 9.3310:34
K-RyanThen updated to 9.3710:34
BluesKajreact10:34
K-RyanSame textless box pops up.10:34
Ace2016BluesKaj: mplayer doesn't use xine10:34
nicolai_ulrich__: is that the error? perfect! just type  sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:34
BluesKajmplayer wi=on't play them either10:35
Ayabaraanyone know if it is possible to set the numeric EQ values for kaffeine in some config file?10:35
K-RyanI even tried setting it up so that it used Times New Roman, but that didn't fix it.10:35
BluesKaje=wont10:35
ulrich__okay10:35
ulrich__im there10:35
ulrich__mhm ^10:35
ulrich__delete the package bla10:35
nicolai_ulrich__: in kate find line 44 - packages-free-i386.db10:35
nicolai_ulrich__: yeah10:35
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Ace2016BluesKaj: can you run mplayer and xine from konsole and put the output in a pastebin10:36
Ace2016get them to play and post the output10:36
nicolai_ulrich__: anything that doesn't start deb or ##10:36
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nicolai_ulrich__: though it might be good to save the original if you are not certain it is malplaced10:36
ulrich__oh i love you :D:D:D:D it works again ^^10:37
BluesKajmplayer is broken anyway10:37
nicolai_hehe10:37
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mrwizrdis there any way to unmount a partition mounted by ntfs-3g?10:37
ulrich__great thanks :D10:37
Ace2016BluesKaj: why?10:37
nicolai_ulrich__: everything works?10:37
ulrich__yes i think so10:37
mrwizrdthey're not in mtab, so normal unmount doesnt work10:37
mrwizrdi want to blow away a partition but dont want to restart, load a livecd..10:38
ulrich__nicolai_: and the medibuntu stuff is what ?10:38
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BluesKajdunno why , just errors everytime i try to use mplayer, Ace201610:38
Ace2016BluesKaj: well you could pastebin it10:39
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nicolai_ulrich__: medibuntu is a repository (software archive) that contains codecs and other software that might be "illegal" to install in the USA :P10:39
ulrich__ah cool :P well im from germany haha10:39
ulrich__okay but skype is not in it is it ?10:39
BluesKajAce2016, http://www.pastebin.ca/49739110:40
K-RyanHey guys someone told me to do this,  install it to X11 fonts dir and restart/refresh the X11 to enable it.10:40
K-RyanHow do I do that?10:40
nicolai_ulrich__: such things as the possibility to read dvd movies (libdvdcss2) watch .avi files (w32codecs) and listen to .mp3 (libxine-extracodecs)10:40
ulrich__ah okay10:41
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nicolai_ulrich__: I'm from Denmark myself :)10:41
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Ace2016BluesKaj: you didn't tell it what file to play, cd to the place where your .avi file is and do gmplayer file.avi10:41
K-RyanAnyone? Where is that X11 font dir?10:41
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BluesKajok Ace201610:42
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mrwizrdbrb10:42
K-RyanX11 font dir? Please? =)10:42
ulrich__nicolai-: denmark cool i love denmark =)10:43
Ace2016 /etc/X11/fonts ?10:43
felix_I've installed XMMS and i don't know how to start it !!!????10:43
K-RyanProbably, thanks a bunch10:43
ulrich__okay and how do i get skype running ? the version from the skype homepage didnt work..10:43
nicolai_ulrich__: 2 sec10:43
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AyabaraI tried kaffeine now. The sound of my video is crappy unless I choose "Volume Gain" in the EQ settings, and then it's really low. What am I doing wrong?10:44
Ace2016Any of these? /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts  /usr/share/fonts/X11/10:44
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nicolai_ulrich__: I found skype in Adept. You shouldn't need to look at any website10:45
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nicolai_ulrich__: It was apparently a part of the medibuntu repository :)10:45
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nicolai_ulrich__: simply update adept and search for skype10:46
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pagux2youhello10:47
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flavios_how I install Portuguese in kubuntu?10:47
K-RyanSomeone told me to put this tahoma.ttf font file in my X11 Fonts folder10:47
pagux2youmy updator crashed while appling changes10:47
K-RyanNow in there I've got a few folders so I don't know where to put it.10:47
pagux2youi was upgrading fro 6.10 to 7.1010:48
K-Ryan100dpi, 75dpi, misc, Type1, X11R710:48
Ace2016pagux2you: and the problem is?10:48
pagux2youmy updator crashed while appling changes while upgrading from 6.10 to 7.10 ....pl tell me how to start process again10:49
BluesKajAce2016, cd -ing to the file in the terminal doesn't work ...it doesn't see the file10:49
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K-RyanAnyone know where I'm supposed to put it?10:49
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ulrich__nicolai_: ah i see thanks ;D10:49
pagux2youmy updator crashed while appling changes while upgrading from 6.10 to 7.10 ....pl tell me how to start process again10:50
K-Ryanpagux2you that happened to me and someone told me to just restart Kubuntu10:50
nicolai_ulrich__: See! You didn't have to reinstall :P10:50
K-RyanAnd it was 7.1010:50
ulrich__nicolai_: *phew* ^^10:50
pagux2youK-Ryan: But udater didnt apply all the packages10:51
nicolai_pagux2you: If the problem persists try  /var/lib/dpkg/lock10:51
nicolai_pagux2you: then    dpkg --configure -a10:51
pagux2youi fear that my kubuntu wont boot10:51
K-RyanMine crashed midway through and someone told me to do that, it worked for me.10:51
K-Ryanpagux2you so did I but it worked for me. Don't go just on my word though, ask around a bit more.10:51
nicolai_K-Ryan and pagux2you: It can be a dangerous attempt10:52
K-RyanCan always boot up using one of the other kernel versions right?10:52
K-RyanWorst comes to worst livecd10:52
nicolai_K-Ryan and pagux2you: If any abnormal changes has been done to the repository list, you might experience a true crash.10:53
K-RyanAlright alright10:53
pagux2younicolai_: i dont want reboot as updator had downloaded all the packages and crashed midway applying it10:53
nicolai_K-Ryan and pagux2you: It was mostly when the crash was due to server overload that it was safe to reboot10:53
pagux2youi have run dpkg --configure -a its seems to applying all packages10:54
Ace2016BluesKaj: go to the folder where the avi file is in konqueror and then do gmplayer filename.avi, if the name has spaces try gmplayer "file name.avi"10:54
BluesKajNM , Ace2016 i changed the order for opening avi files and VLC is now the default10:54
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nicolai_pagux2you: It will apply changes, but it might not be completely fixed10:55
pagux2youwhat do in this case10:55
zblachhey all. quick question. when I go to add printers through system settings or kcontrol, it locks up. what gives?10:55
ulrich__okay guys i go offline thanks for the help nicolai =) *waves*10:56
nicolai_pagux2you: The big question is whether or not you updated KDE back in Edgy (3.5.5 to 3.5.6)10:56
Ace2016BluesKaj: have fun10:57
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pagux2youhow do i find that out kde -version ?10:57
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pagux2younicolai_: How to find out current kde version ?10:58
AFaithhello people :)10:58
nicolai_pagux2you: now that the packages are somewhat installed it might say 3.5.6 no matter what.You can still try to right click on "start- panel" -> "help" -> "about KDE"10:58
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AFaithi have finally installed feisty P10:58
AFaith:P10:58
AFaithhave a question.. whats the best method to install nvidia drivers ?10:59
SlimeyPete:)10:59
AFaithvia restricted drivers10:59
AFaithvia automatix210:59
AFaithor via envy ?10:59
SlimeyPetedon't use automatix. If you do, you won't get any support in the support channels - the official advice is to stay away from automatix.10:59
nicolai_pagux2you: if it says 3.5.5, you should be safe. If it says 3.5.6 we need to be sure. (I would actually recommend doing this second step anyway)11:00
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AFaithSlimeyPete : oh ... why are you have this atitude about automatix ?11:01
nicolai_pagux2you: once the console has finished configuring packages, it should be safe to open Adept again.11:01
rommelHello Everyone, I need to Install Adobe Acrobat reader in my Ubuntu Box Please Help?11:01
K-RyanSo, anyone know where in /etc/X11/fonts I'm supposed to put a tahoma.ttf font file?11:01
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K-Ryanrommel: do you need a pdf viewer, or Adobe Acrobat period?11:01
nicolai_pagux2you: another way of checking could be to type   sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:02
rommela good pdf viewer!11:02
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AFaithso ... what should i use ? restricted drivers or envy ?11:02
SlimeyPeteAFaith: it tends to break things. It's quite common to see someone appear in the support channels and ask about a problem, and then it turns out they used automatix.11:02
K-Ryanrommel: I'm pretty sure Kubuntu comes with one by default11:02
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AFaithi see...11:02
K-RyanBut you can always search "pdf" in the repos11:03
pagux2younicolai_: it says  3.5.511:03
SlimeyPeteAFaith: may as well try envy, then if that doesn't work try manually installing the packages11:03
rommelwhich one are you using?11:03
K-RyanWhichever one comes default.11:03
rommelcan I use Adobe?11:03
K-RyanHold on one sec, I'll check.11:04
SlimeyPetethe one in kubuntu is called kghostview, I think?11:04
SlimeyPeteor something similar11:04
JohnFluxkpdf is the kde one11:04
SlimeyPeteit seems OK - seems to open every file I've come across so far11:04
JohnFluxkpdf is the better one11:04
nicolai_pagux2you: that should make things a lot easier :)11:04
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rommelePDF Viewer11:04
AFaithSlimeyPete : should i try envy first ?11:04
SlimeyPeteAFaith: yeah11:04
zblachit's a real pain adding printers. was there an update I missed?11:04
nicolai_pagux2you: Now you haven't used automatix or easyubuntu?11:04
AFaithok ... lets hope it will work :)11:04
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K-Ryanrommel: there is no adobe acrobat package in the universe/multiverse/official repos11:05
pagux2younicolai_: I have does that upgrade your OS too ??11:05
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AsasinAlright... so I was going to install Kubuntu and the only free partition is one with Windows on it. If I resize that by like 10 GB will it delete any of the files?11:05
K-RyanSo either it's going to be a pain in the neck getting it to work, or you won't be able to get it to work period.11:05
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rommelok11:05
rommelwhere did you see that?11:05
K-RyanI know it11:05
rommelok11:05
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nicolai_zblach: add the necessary ppd files then system settings -> printer. And make sure the printer isn't connected by a USB hub (directly into the computer by USB should be ok)11:06
rommelSee under the Applications > Office > What is the Name of the PDF viewer that you have there, Please11:06
AFaithyet another question :)11:06
AFaithenvy beta or stable ?11:06
K-RyanIf I'm not mistaken you'd have to get Wine, then install Adobe Acrobat, and everytime you want to open a PDF you would have to open it through Wine.11:06
nicolai_pagux2you: automatix messes up your system :/11:06
K-RyanI don't have a PDF viewer in that section.11:07
zblachnicolai_: printer is connected to a windows box downstairs. problem is system settings crashes when I select 'printers'11:07
pagux2youyeah thats why i dont use ...I rather install codecs manually11:07
zblachi've had success with hoary -> edgy11:07
K-RyanBut I do have kpdf11:07
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rommelok11:07
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rommelI am installing now ePDFviewer11:07
tsdgeosK-Ryan: it's on graphics section11:08
rommellets see if that do the trick11:08
BluesKajAce2016, mplayer complains about VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.1 - no such file or directory11:08
K-RyanGood call tsdgeos11:08
pagux2youwhen are we getting kde 4 ?11:08
Rictoo_How would make Ubuntu a different language? (eg., Hungarian)11:08
AFaithSlimeyPete: which envy version should i install ? the beta version or the stable one ?11:08
rommeltsdgeos?11:08
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Rictoo_How would I make Ubuntu a different language? (eg., Hungarian)11:08
nicolai_pagux2you: Have you used automatix or easyubuntu since your last installation?11:08
K-RyanRictoo_ KDE Menu> System Settings11:08
tsdgeosrommel: kpdf is on k-menu -> graphics11:08
K-RyanThen Regional & Language11:09
tsdgeosnot on k-menu -> office11:09
Rictoo_K-Ryan: What if my language isn't there?11:09
K-RyanIs it?11:09
Rictoo_Nope11:09
nicolai_pagux2you: I think KDE 4.0 will be released october 22 this year.11:09
K-RyanCLick Install New Language11:09
rommelK-Ryan: No, It is not there!11:09
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K-RyanWhat rommel? Kpdf is in the graphics section, if it is installed.11:09
Rictoo_K-Ryan: Will the entire Kubuntu be that language then?11:10
K-RyanIf you select it, I think so.11:10
Rictoo_:\11:10
rommellet me see if it is available to install11:10
K-RyanI've never changed languages so I couldn't tell you.11:10
nicolai_pagux2you: ahh.. 23 of october :P11:10
K-RyanBut you should only need to install it, then select it.11:10
K-Ryan!fonts11:10
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ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer11:10
zblachnicolai_: and crashes at the 'add printer' wizard through kcontrol11:10
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kblogis anybody using a wlan-card? how difficult is it to install it?11:11
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vrunHi Folks :-)11:11
Ace2016hi11:11
K-RyanHi there vrun11:11
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rommelK-Ryan: It is available to install, Thanks for your HELP... Keep it Up....Helping each other is the only way to make any linux version to overcome MS.11:12
BluesKajAce2016, mplayer complains about VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.1 - no such file or directory11:12
K-Ryanrommel: Glad I could help11:12
rommelTHANKS11:12
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nicolai_zblach: I must admit I cannot help with that. I only know that there are problems with some lexmark printers and that it often works better to not use a hub for connecting printers.11:12
zblachalright, i'll keep investigating11:13
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pagux2younicolai_: Its finished appying going for reebot wish me luck11:13
zblachif i find anything, would you like me to let you know?11:13
Ace2016BluesKaj: never seen that error before maybe #ubuntu might be able to help11:13
nicolai_pagux2you: good luck11:13
vrun...I just lost my "KDE Menu" ... could recreate it ... but the icon is an open yellow box ... and half of my apps are in Lost&Found now...:-(11:13
vrunAnybody know what happend?11:13
BluesKajAce2016, here's the output from the terminal, http://www.pastebin.ca/49744511:14
K-RyanDoes anyone know where I should put a tahoma.ttf font file? I need it to be used in Wine but when I put it in .wine/drive_c/windows/fonts it doesn't work.11:14
pagux2youbye bye folks ...if my systems still work after reboot we will meet again :-)11:14
K-RyanSomeone told me to put it in my X11 fonts folder, but there are a few different folder there and I'm unsure of which one to place it in.11:15
nicolai_zblach: I'll probably be in bed within 30 minutes, so I'm not sure I can be of much help. :)11:15
zblachok11:15
K-RyanAnyone? Please? =(11:15
vrunK-Ryan ... http://penguinfonts.com/howto/ubuntu.php  ...should be of help ;-)11:16
AFaithshould i run envy as root or with sudo envy ?11:17
Ace2016BluesKaj: the problem is with your settings, try    gmplayer -vo xv /home/kaj/Charlotte's.Web.avi11:17
K-RyanUsing sudo is running it as root if I'm not mistaken.11:17
K-Ryan!sudo11:17
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:17
K-RyanYeah11:18
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AFaithoh .. i see ...11:18
AFaiththanks :)11:18
K-RyanYou're welcome11:19
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arturas_sveiki11:21
DarkParad0xcan anyone help with a prob? i've installed beryl through adept a few days ago and had it set to auto startup, i now removed it and it still won't show my shut down, restart, etc buttons, only log out, any way i can retrieve them?11:21
AFaithgot to restart my pc... hope that envy did his job11:21
Ace2016BluesKaj: you haven't installed the w32 codecs have you, its a part of that11:21
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BluesKajyes, i have all coedcs installed and then some , Ace201611:22
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Ace2016BluesKaj: run locate wmvdmod.dll     does the output show /usr/lib/codecs/wmvdmod.dll11:22
K-Ryanvrun I think that fixed it, that and some of my tweaking.11:23
K-RyanThanks a bunch11:23
Ace2016BluesKaj: you might have to update locate's database first, run  sudo updatedb11:24
Ace2016BluesKaj: then run locate wmvdmod.dll   and if it doesn't show that file then you need to install the codecs11:24
BluesKajI don't have xvideo support according to the error output , ace11:25
BluesKajerr Ace201611:25
vrunK-Ryan ... congrats11:25
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(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) Other variations are PIBKAC ("Problem Is Between Keyboard And Chair"), PEBCAC ("Problem Exists Between Chair and Computer"), PEBMAC ("Problem Exists Between Monitor And Chair"), PEBCAK ("Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard"), PEBDAC ("Problem Exists Between Desk And Chair") or EBKAC ("Error Between Keyboard And Chair"). The occasionally seen variant PEBKAM ("Problem Exists Between...11:29
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) PEBKAC is an acronym which stands for "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair". The phrase is used by computer experts as a semi-humorous way to describe to one another that the problem was not in the computer but was instead caused by the user operating it.11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) Another variation of Pebkac is POBCAC (Problem Occurs Between Computer and Chair)11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) * POBCAC.co.uk11:30
(Ace2016/#kubuntu) BluesKaj: press Alt+F2, type mplayer to run it, right click on video area, go to preferances, and select the video output you want in the video tab11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) ...Keyboard and Monitor") would appear to be based on a misunderstanding and/or misremembrance of the phrase.11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) In 2006, Intel began running a number of PEBKAC web-based advertisements to promote their vPro platform.11:30
(K-Ryan/#kubuntu) Stop the spam, thanks.11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) Other variations are PIBKAC ("Problem Is Between Keyboard And Chair"), PEBCAC ("Problem Exists Between Chair and Computer"), PEBMAC ("Problem Exists Between Monitor And Chair"), PEBCAK ("Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard"), PEBDAC ("Problem Exists Between Desk And Chair") or EBKAC ("Error Between Keyboard And Chair"). The occasionally seen variant PEBKAM ("Problem Exists Between...11:30
(slougi/#kubuntu) thanks for the flooding11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) PEBKAC is an acronym which stands for "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair". The phrase is used by computer experts as a semi-humorous way to describe to one another that the problem was not in the computer but was instead caused by the user operating it.11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) Another variation of Pebkac is POBCAC (Problem Occurs Between Computer and Chair)11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) * POBCAC.co.uk11:30
(K-Ryan/#kubuntu) Stop!11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) ...Keyboard and Monitor") would appear to be based on a misunderstanding and/or misremembrance of the phrase.11:30
(HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) In 2006, Intel began running a number of PEBKAC web-based advertisements to promote their vPro platform.11:30
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(cpk1/#kubuntu) !ops11:30
(ubotu/#kubuntu) Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal11:30
(K-Ryan/#kubuntu) Someone stop him!11:30
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K-RyanThanks11:30
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nixternalthanks for the warning :)11:31
pagux2youits installed11:31
nixternalhaha, beat ya Hobbsee :)11:31
Hobbseelaggy chanserv....11:31
nixternalhehe11:31
Hobbseenixternal: i connected recently, and it took a good 10 seconds before chanserv responded back11:31
nixternalahhh11:31
pagux2younicolai_: its it says glx is installed ...its also showing a pakage called new Nivdia Glx11:31
nixternalI just seen that in -devel11:32
nicolai_pagux2you: if nvidia-glx is installed, then we're halfway there.11:32
K-RyanFirst time I'm going to try running Half-Life11:32
K-RyanWish me luck!11:32
Ace2016K-Ryan: good luck, you might need it11:33
cpk1pagux2you: what card do you have? really new cards should probably use the nvidia-glx-new package11:33
gnomefreaknicolai_: your gonna need to ban his name too11:33
K-RyanI hope not, but here goes nothin'11:33
gnomefreakack11:33
pagux2younicolai_: now what change X.org ...is that the next step ?11:33
gnomefreaknixternal: your gonna need to ban his name too11:33
nicolai_pagux2you: ban me?11:33
gemidjy_anyway to grep for binary characters, such as the <feff> BOM character? :/11:33
nicolai_sorry gnomefreak: ban me?11:34
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gnomefreaknicolai_: not you auto complete messed up11:34
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pagux2younicolai_:  i got it year back ...wud that come under new ?11:34
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AFaithit's me again :(11:34
AFaithenvy method failed11:35
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PF-Awayenvy bad11:35
PF-Away!nvidia | AFaith11:35
ubotuAFaith: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:35
nicolai_pagux2you: Go to system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin ->  configure -> proprietary11:35
AFaithxserver did not started...11:35
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AFaithbut the settings that envy did ?11:35
AFaithwhat should i do with them ?11:35
BluesKajright on Ace2016 , that one cmnd on the avi file was enuff to reset mplayer to X11 .. thx again for your help :)11:35
Ace2016np11:36
Ace2016bye all11:36
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PF-Away:D11:36
nicolai_pagux2you: I got my graphics card about a year ago too. I use nvidia-glx11:38
nicolai_pagux2you: have you used my guide?11:38
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pagux2younicolai_: i can use Monitor and Display ...its giving Error like .....Orphaned module ...old 3rd party modules still lying around :-(11:40
pagux2younicolai_: i CAN'T use Monitor and Display ...its giving Error like .....Orphaned module ...old 3rd party modules still lying around :-(11:40
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Ayabaraanyone using beagle/kerry, stringi or another good indexing tool?11:42
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Ayabaraeh. strigi I meant11:42
pagux2younicolai_: my friend r u there ?11:43
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nicolai_pagux2you: hmm... that sounds like something that I'm too tired to help with now. I never felt certain whether or not yu had used automatix (to install nvidia card for example).11:44
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lobsterhello11:44
Ayabara!strigi11:44
ubotustrigi is an application which index the files on your desktop. homepage: http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/ package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=strigi&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all11:44
pagux2youi installed nvidea driver manually last time11:45
Ayabarawould you recommend strigi over beagle?11:45
pagux2youand made changes in X.conf11:45
nicolai_pagux2you: ahh11:45
nicolai_hmm11:45
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nicolai_pagux2you: I did that in suse 1 years ago. Not a pleasant experience. :/11:46
pagux2youyeah ...11:46
lobsteranyone familiar with using knetwork for monitoring my wireless router?11:46
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jordi_Hi, ca n anybody give me some aknowledgement about how to set a Hauppauge WinTV Bt878 TV Card?11:47
nicolai_pagux2you: oh well... i have to go to bed.. my head is starting to hit the keyboard. I might be here for a few hours tomorrow.11:48
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PhinnFortredrawing of the screen is really laggy11:48
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K-RyanHey guys I'm using Wine to play Half-Life and I was getting no sound.11:51
lobsterK-ryan: now?11:51
lobsterK-ryan: and now?11:51
K-RyanI don't think have this emu10k1/2 chpset or Envy24 thing11:52
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lobsterK-ryan: only no sound in wine?11:52
K-RyanWell I'm not playing it this second, so I couldn't tell you.11:52
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K-RyanYes, in Wine.11:52
K-RyanSo in the FAQ it says something about typing "cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp" in the terminal and it says the device is busy.11:52
lobsterwinehq.org11:52
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K-RyanSo I'm guessing that is what's doing it.11:52
K-RyanHow can I find out what program is using it?11:53
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lobsterk-ryan cat /dev/urandom will send a random string of characters to /dev/dsp.  why would you want o do that?11:53
AFaithme again :D11:53
K-RyanHere, http://winehq.atomnet.co.uk/faq.html#noosssound11:54
AFaithi've installed the restricted driver11:54
K-RyanSee?11:54
lobsterk-ryan join #winehq, they will be able to help you11:54
K-RyanThey said "Read the FAQ"11:54
K-RyanThey're really not that helpful11:54
AFaithand my monitor acts the same like when i set a wrong resolution11:54
K-RyanThey wouldn't help me get Steam fonts working...11:54
gphi11:55
K-RyanHi gp11:55
AFaithhello gp :)11:55
AFaithK-Ryan: any other ideas ?11:55
lobsterK-ryan did you go to winehq.org?11:55
K-RyanAFaith that wasn't for you =P11:55
gpwhere does Kubuntu stores X config11:55
AFaithgp i belive in /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:55
AFaitham i right ?11:56
dacysoyes11:56
K-Ryanlobster I'm reading the FAQ, and this section said to try that line, http://winehq.atomnet.co.uk/faq.html#noosssound11:56
AFaithK-Ryan: any ideas how can i setup my monitor ?11:56
gpi cant find it in11:56
gproot@gp-desktop:/etc/X11# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:56
gpcat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory11:56
lobsterwhat is your sound card?11:56
K-RyanAFaith: Sorry I've never dealt with monitor setups in Kubuntu, you can try the system settings area though.11:56
AFaithok ....11:57
K-Ryanlobster: I've no idea.11:57
K-RyanSorry AFaith =/11:57
AFaithbut how can i find the exact name of the monitor ?11:57
lobsterK-ryan you dont know what your sound card is?11:57
AFaithso i could ask google11:57
AFaithfor the answer11:57
K-RyanIt's an integrated Intel thing if I'm not mistaken.11:57
cpk1gp: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if its not there you should recreate it11:57
K-RyanBut I'm not positive.11:57
gpK-Ryan: System Setting Monitor setting is not working after upgrade11:57
gpcpk1: How then kubuntu is rinning X then ?11:58
dacysogp : try find / -name xorg.conf11:58
cpk1gp: if you lost it after you started X11:58
gpafter upgrade my Xserver crashed due to nvidea config in 6.10 but I manageg to start X by renaming X.conf after that its not created x.conf even after rebooting !!12:00
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AFaithi've seen that in /var/log/Xorg.0.log my monitors name is Generic moonitor12:00
AFaiththats not the name of it12:01
dacysodid you try to reinstall nvidia drivers ?12:01
lobsterK-ryan try the cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp again12:01
AFaithdacyso: i've just installed them12:01
K-Ryandevice  or resource busy12:01
AFaithi've tryied with envy but it failed and then via restricted drivers12:01
lobsterwhat type of computer do you have?12:01
K-RyanSony Vaio12:01
K-RyanFrom '0112:01
gpis there any utility to generate x.conf ?12:02
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gpi think there  was some thing i used in redhat12:02
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gpdont remember the name though12:03
dacysogp: don't see, but nvidia drivers do that12:03
dacysoif you compile them12:03
cpk1gp: yes dpkg does it but i forget the exact command12:03
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dacysogp : i forgot the usual dpkg --reconfigure X11-package12:04
dacysogp : (can't remeber his name)12:04
cpk1it should be something like dpkg-reconfigure xorg -someoptions12:05
cpk1i think12:05
lobsterit shouldn't have an issue with multiple sound inputs, can you reboot and try again?12:05
TheGateKeeperdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:06
dacysoyes12:07
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Lilacorhi everyone12:15
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