[12:21] (will00/#kubuntu) fdoving: do you think that there is any way to rescue all the data?
[12:21] <hyperactivecrond> does one need to download src for ndiswrapper in kubuntu fiesty?
[12:21] <PhinnFort> !ndiswrapper | hyperactivecrond
[12:21] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:22] <hyperactivecrond> PhinnFort, all good and well but the kubuntu cd doesn't have ndiswrapper on it
[12:22] <PhinnFort> hyperactivecrond: then you need to install it;)
[12:22] <fdoving> will00: fsck is my only suggestion. can't think of anything else, if the filesystem is broken, that's the tool that might be able to fix it, if the disk it self is broken it can't get much worse.
[12:22] <PhinnFort> will00: if all is lost, you have photorec and friends, but that should be the last solution
[12:22] <hyperactivecrond> PhinnFort, well duh.
[12:22] <kinfule> Hello again
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> kinfule: hello
[12:23] <ghost_> okyeah thats the same instructions for ubuntu... so im guessing the kde methods only differnce is using the kde tool
[12:23] <blackvd> whats the package to install alsaconf?
[12:23] <hyperactivecrond> PhinnFort, but the problem is i need to use said wifi card to get on the internet
[12:23] <compilerwriter> ghost_ wine has some support for ie on linux for those obnoxious sites that are only IE compatible
[12:23] <PhinnFort> hyperactivecrond: you could download the deb on a usb-stick or something
[12:23] <PhinnFort> !ie
[12:23] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort
[12:23] <hyperactivecrond> PhinnFort, is it on the archive site?
[12:23] <PhinnFort> !internetexplorer
[12:23] <kinfule> could someone explain me how to use the makecommand?
[12:23] <PhinnFort> hyperactivecrond: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:23] <hyperactivecrond> ghost_, google search iesforlinux
[12:23] <ghost_> compilerwiter yeah i looked into that, it needs to be able to runa java tool and read my scanner...
[12:23] <hyperactivecrond> PhinnFort, mk i got it
[12:25] <hyperactivecrond> ftr it's a linksys WMP54GS
[12:25] <hyperactivecrond> pci card
[12:25] <bky> uhh i still can't find wine, i have universe enabled but wine isn't in the repo
[12:25] <PhinnFort> hyperactivecrond: i don't know too much about wireless cards, I just plug&play;)
[12:25] <will00> fdoving: it says i have a bad magic number
[12:25] <blackvd> So i just installed kubuntu 7 and have no sound. whats the best way to configure? I was thinking alsaconf but not installed.
[12:25] <hyperactivecrond> PhinnFort, i didn't ask.. it was just for the record
[12:26] <hyperactivecrond> and i know this doesnt work with bcm43xx
[12:26] <compilerwriter> bky what version of kubuntu are you using?
[12:26] <PhinnFort> hyperactivecrond: ;)
[12:26] <Ulwen> You can find Wine in Automatix
[12:26] <bky> 7.04
[12:26] <blackvd> bky: go to www.winehq.com and add the repo for it
[12:26] <bky> ok
[12:26] <Ulwen> I tried Ie for linux in Dapper and it often crashed...
[12:27] <compilerwriter> It should be there in the system settings menu then should it not.
[12:27] <hyperactivecrond> which version of ndiswrapper do i need for fiesty?
[12:27] <bky> adding those repos did it. thanks. :)
[12:28] <compilerwriter> bky good luck
[12:28] <blackvd> np
[12:28] <ghost_> im so mad
[12:28] <ghost_> i missed the halo 3 beta
[12:28] <ghost_> stupid interweb
[12:29] <dogatemycomputer> I can't bring myself to buy it because Microsoft had their hands in it.
[12:29] <PhinnFort> from what I've heard they ruined it;)
[12:29] <PhinnFort> i like to believe that is true
[12:29] <ghost_> oh im sure
[12:29] <ghost_> i just wanted it so all the other college age drones would be like 'wow... you have seen the future!'
[12:30] <PhinnFort> ;P
[12:30] <hyperactivecrond> what verison by default does fiesty install with ndiswrapper?
[12:30] <PhinnFort> how can I make a disk image bootable?
[12:30] <hyperactivecrond> PhinnFort, is it an iso?
[12:30] <ghost_> but anywho, is guidedog a gui version of ipmasq
[12:30] <PhinnFort> hyperactivecrond: the one that shows up on puc
[12:30] <PhinnFort> hyperactivecrond: it's a qcow image
[12:30] <hyperactivecrond> PhinnFort, ?
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> hyperactivecrond: 1.35 version of ndiswrapper
[12:30] <hyperactivecrond> nosrednaekim, ok thanks
[12:30] <PhinnFort> packages.ubuntu.com
[12:30] <hyperactivecrond> PhinnFort, i got it the first time :)
[12:30] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:31] <hyperactivecrond> nosrednaekim, i only see 1.3.8
[12:31] <hyperactivecrond> i need -common and -utlis, right?
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> hyperactivecrond: thats the utilities version...
[12:32] <ghost_> wow  this beta is a gig
[12:32] <ghost_> i don't know if thats worth downloading lol
[12:32] <hyperactivecrond> nosrednaekim, -utils AND -common should work
[12:32] <ghost_> quakewars is going to be better anyhow
[12:32] <hyperactivecrond> oh well i'll check myself
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> hyperactivecrond: the wrapper itself (kernel module) changes more often
[12:33] <elyon> Hey, guys... just did a clean install of Edgy, but now everyone time I log out (selecing "End current session"), my entire system reboots...w hat gives?
[12:34] <will00> on my desktop. i have a series of vertical lines across kicker and drop down menus, what are they, and how can i fix em?
[12:37] <will00> is anyone alive out there?
[12:37] <dogatemycomputer> elyon.. you still there?
[12:41] <dogatemycomputer> will00: are the verticle lines tightly packed or more spaced out?  (like 1 or 2?)
[12:41] <ubuntu> Hello all
[12:41] <ubuntu> Great day :)
[12:42] <dogatemycomputer> greetings!
[12:42] <ubuntu> dogatemycomputer: Mine too!
[12:43] <dogatemycomputer> ubuntu: are the verticle lines ticketly packed or more spaced out?
[12:43] <mo0osah> i installed opendchub through Adept Manager, now I cant remove it... what could be the problem
[12:44] <will00> umm mine are pretty evenly spaced out
[12:44] <ubuntu> dogatemycomputer: spaced
[12:46] <will00> ubuntu what kinda comp are u running?
[12:46] <Pollywog> how do I prevent from getting that barebones Konqueror sometimes?  I want the full browser not the kfmclient thing
[12:47] <Pollywog> I get two versions of Konq from the same link
[12:47] <dogatemycomputer> ubuntu: will00:  i'm just looking through google.. let you know if I find anything..
[12:47] <Pollywog> no way to know which one I will get until I click the icon
[12:47] <will00> alright thansk
[12:48] <mario_> hola
[12:48] <intelikey> shalom
[12:49] <mario_> nesecito saber como puedo instalar beryl en mi computador pero tengo una ati xpress 1150
[12:49] <Pollywog> mario_: #kubuntu-es
[12:49] <Pollywog> this channel is for English language
[12:50] <mario_> ok
[12:50] <intelikey> mario_ also beryl is supported in #ubuntu-effects    iirc
[12:50] <mario_> i need install beryl in my kubuntu but i have a ati radeo xpress 1150
[12:51] <mario_> beryl not working in my system
[12:51] <intelikey> !ati
[12:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:51] <mario_> but the driver for my video card not exist
[12:51] <intelikey> strange how we get our needs and our wants mixed up so easily
[12:52] <mario_> ok
[12:52] <mario_> thanks
[12:52] <Pollywog> like I want to eat ice cream but I want to be thin too?
[12:52] <intelikey> mario_ i can't do anything about that.   i'm not a code monkey and if i was i wouldn't know anything about that hardware anyway
[12:52] <mario_> ok
[12:53] <Pollywog> mario_: you might check the forums
[12:53] <intelikey> Pollywog no like i need beryl to work but i want to breath
[12:53] <Pollywog> oic
[12:53] <mario_> my computer is a hp-compaq nx6325
[12:54] <intelikey> lol     Pollywog   still not the same thing.
[12:54] <Pollywog> k
[12:54] <mo0osah> i installed opendchub through Adept Manager, now I cant remove it... what could be the problem
[12:55] <cucaracha> cual es el driver de tu computadora Mario?
[12:55] <Alarm> hello i am reading a guide of how to configure Lirc . there is a line written. "After this configuration is finished, you will see a message in your terminal about which LIRC module will be used" . as i installed it from the repo. i didnt see any name of module. how can i find which module is used so i can load it ?
[12:55] <intelikey> "need to be thin"    why on earth would anyone think like that ?     is there a narrow passage that you must pass through or something ?
[12:55] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: there was a glitch in the software that, for some reason, it tries to start the service during the removal process which prevents you from uninstalling it.
[12:55] <intelikey> never mind.   ot.
[12:56] <angasule> !es
[12:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:56] <mo0osah> dogatemycomputer: so what do i do?  it's bugging me
[12:56] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer need/want  a work around for that ?
[12:57] <auch_wer> hello! Somebody an idea how to change the kde's sound-display (excuse my english  ;-) )
[12:57] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: intelikey: I just saw it in one of the discussion forums.  You can try terminating the service manually then try removing it using Synaptic?
[12:57] <mo0osah> dogatemycomputer: how do i terminate service manually
[12:58] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: let me find it..
[12:58] <dogatemycomputer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=444492
[12:58] <intelikey> a workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...
[12:59] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: yeah.. that :P
[01:00] <intelikey> that allows the prerm script of the package to run successfully and thus install/remove the package successfully.
[01:00] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: did you get that?
[01:00] <ghost_> hey
[01:00] <intelikey> say spook
[01:00] <ghost_> how do i use ipmasq to just keep my current settings and have them come up every boot?
[01:00] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: i'm assuming the "start-stop-daemon" would be something like "opend" or "opendchub" (whatever the daemon is?
[01:01] <intelikey> no that is the name.  "/sbin/start-stop-daemon "
[01:01] <intelikey> i have also seen  "/usr/sbin/update-rc.d "   throw errors on some packages.
[01:02] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: then you should put that back.. right?
[01:02] <ghost_> how do i use ipmasq to just keep my current settings and have them come up every boot?
[01:02] <intelikey> right
[01:02] <mo0osah> dogatemycomputer: I got the link... i'll follow it in a few
[01:02] <will00> dogatemycomputer: did u find anything about the lines?
[01:02] <intelikey> ghost_ sorry the system i know but the network i know not.
[01:03] <dogatemycomputer> will00: there was a bug registered somewhere but i'm not positive its the same issue so I didn't list it here.  Someone made a comment in a blog somewhere that it might be the refresh rate set incorrectly.. but that's something that I would assume you already looked at.
[01:03] <will00> yea
[01:04] <ghost_> interlikey, i have put in some real basic routing commands to pretty much do a net connection sharing
[01:04] <will00> dogatemycomputer: its probablly just my ancient hardware
[01:04] <dogatemycomputer> will00:  its a strange one that I would love to mess around with but without being at the machine i'm totally lost.  I'm still a newbie personally.
[01:04] <ghost_> but i have been told i will have to enter the commands every boot because the kernal dumps that info
[01:04] <ghost_> apperently this tool, iqmasq will make a script that does that at boot
[01:04] <ghost_> but i don't see, afterreading the man, how to do that
[01:04] <will00> lol its alright
[01:05] <mo0osah> dogatemycomputer: so there's no way around to uninstall opendchub?
[01:10] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: follow intelikey's suggestion above..
[01:11] <PhinnFort> how can I merge two files?
[01:11] <PhinnFort> binary files
[01:11] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey> a workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...
[01:11] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey> a workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...
[01:11] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey> a workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...
[01:11] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey> a workaround is to kill the process and   sudo mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/start-stop-daemon       do the package thing and rm the link put the script back in sbin...
[01:11] <dogatemycomputer> sorry
[01:11] <dogatemycomputer> lol.. boy.. did I cut and paste that enough times?
[01:12] <dkillian> buntu
[01:14] <mo0osah> dogatemycomputer: what does "rm the link put the script back in sbin..." mean
[01:14] <Zeelot3k> hello ^_^
[01:15] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: here is my interpretation..
[01:15] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: please correct me if i'm wrong
[01:15] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: sudo mv /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon
[01:15] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: sorry..
[01:16] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: sudo mv /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon /root
[01:16] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: sudo mv /ln -s /bin/true /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon
[01:16] <intelikey> sudo mv /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon /root ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon
[01:17] <intelikey> that line ^   then uninstall your package
[01:17] <illriginal> Can someone help me format my usb flash drive to FAT16. GParted is not letting me format it to FAT16 and I NEED it to be FAT16. Please help!!
[01:17] <intelikey> sudo rm /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon ;mv /root/rstart-stop-daemon /sbin/
[01:17] <intelikey> then that line when you finish ^
[01:18] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: thanks..  i learned something new today.
[01:18] <intelikey> errr need sudo on the mv   ^
[01:18] <mo0osah> rm: cannot remove `/sbin/rstart-stop-daemon': No such file or directory
[01:18] <intelikey> i'll repost it
[01:18] <intelikey> sudo rm /sbin/rstart-stop-daemon ;sudo mv /root/rstart-stop-daemon /sbin/
[01:18] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: did you sudo it?
[01:18] <mo0osah> yes
[01:19] <intelikey> mo0osah ok run   which  start-stop-daemon
[01:19] <illriginal> Can someone help me format my usb flash drive to FAT16. GParted is not letting me format it to FAT16 and I NEED it to be FAT16. Please help!!
[01:19] <kyah2004> yow daskreech where u at
[01:19] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: lol.. is not "rstart-stop-daemon" its "start-stop-daemon"
[01:19] <intelikey> could be /usr/sbin on the later versions
[01:20] <kyah2004> does anyone know how to install flash without adept installer
[01:20] <intelikey> ah correct.   no rs*   my bad on the paste.   want me to redo my whole mess ?
[01:21] <mo0osah> sure
[01:21] <kyah2004> whats the commadn mooosah
[01:21] <mo0osah> it uninstalled. why do i need anything else
[01:22] <intelikey> mo0osah you only need to make sure you system is saine if it uninstalled.   do   start-stop-deamon --version
[01:22] <intelikey> to be sure.
[01:22] <mo0osah> mv: missing destination file operand after `/sbin/rstart-stop-daemon
[01:23] <intelikey> mo0osah do   start-stop-deamon --version
[01:23] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: I think we need to write up the script and post it somewhere..
[01:23] <noiesmo> Trying to install kde4 alpha and I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21496 any help appriciated
[01:23] <mo0osah> start-stop-deamon --version?  how do i get the version?
[01:23] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer heh yeah you write it.  i typo when i copy paste from you....
[01:24] <_6StringKng_> when I login I get an error about some background image missing or something
[01:24] <intelikey> mo0osah do in a konsole;     start-stop-deamon --version
[01:24] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: lol..  you can write and i'll copy/paste from you.. you're more accurate
[01:24] <mo0osah> bash: start-stop-deamon: command not found
[01:26] <intelikey> mo0osah ls /root
[01:26] <mo0osah> eh?
[01:26] <intelikey> mo0osah do in a konsole: ls /root
[01:26] <dogatemycomputer> mo0osah: just open konsole and type "ls /root" and tell us what you see..
[01:26] <intelikey> may need sudo
[01:27] <mo0osah> it has two files
[01:27] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: didn't need it from my kubuntu installation
[01:27] <mo0osah> start-stop-daemon and tmp
[01:27] <_6StringKng_> so, can anyone help me?
[01:27] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: *dog wipes his forehead*
[01:27] <intelikey> mo0osah do in a konsole;  sudo mv /root/start-stop-daemon /sbin
[01:28] <intelikey> then you are fixed.
[01:28] <mo0osah> o
[01:28] <mo0osah> ok
[01:28] <mo0osah> no errors this time
[01:28] <intelikey> good.
[01:28] <mo0osah> what was all that for anyway?
[01:28] <mo0osah> what is start-stop-daemon?
[01:28] <mo0osah> what did we do throughtout the entire process?
[01:28] <_6StringKng_> so....
[01:29] <illriginal> Can someone help me format my usb flash drive to FAT16. GParted is not letting me format it to FAT16 and I NEED it to be FAT16. Please help!!
[01:29] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer here post this as you like.  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36529
[01:29] <ghost__> saweeeet
[01:29] <mo0osah> i need to learn this, rather than just copy pasting it hehe
[01:29] <ghost__> i just rebooted and it works!
[01:29] <Zeelot3k> so I've installed kubuntu and during installation had it mount one of my ntfs partitions and a backup ext3 partition as /media/sdb6 and /media/sda5, but how can I make it so it mounts them allowing read/write to all users for the ext3 partition and read only for the ntfs(which I think it is already actually)
[01:29] <ghost__> mh0hsah brings up a good point
[01:29] <ghost__> anyone here can refer me to a decient book
[01:29] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: sure.. did you want to give a brief explanation of what this does and did you want me to credit you somehow?
[01:29] <ghost__> i mean real book
[01:30] <intelikey> illriginal fat16 is 2g limit  how big is this drive ?
[01:30] <ghost__> that can in-detail-explain the workings of linux and the GNU softwares?
[01:30] <illriginal> crap its 4gb
[01:30] <Zeelot3k> the only problem is the ext3 partition is mounted with owner and group being root so I cant write to it from any other account
[01:30] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer it's yours do with it as you like.
[01:30] <illriginal> intelikey, i need it for my ps2 and my ps2 only reads FAT or FAT16
[01:31] <ghost__> i assume there is an oriley on the subject
[01:31] <intelikey> illriginal then you have two choices.   make two partitions on it and fromat both   or use a different fs
[01:31] <illriginal> nice
[01:31] <ghost__> ps2 can only read fat16?
[01:31] <intelikey> illriginal are you sure it doesn't read fat32 ?
[01:31] <illriginal> so i can use 1 as fat16 and the other as fat32?
[01:31] <illriginal> im more than positive.
[01:31] <ghost__> that weired
[01:31] <intelikey> illriginal with partitions you can yes.
[01:32] <illriginal> ok cool... im gonna try that i hope it works with gparted
[01:32] <ghost__> i wonder why they would design it in such a way?
[01:33] <illriginal> Heh.. the PS3 can read FAT16, FAT32, NTFS, and ext3
[01:34] <intelikey> illriginal use what you will to make the partitions  and then   sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sdd1    (assuming the device as sdd, adjust accordingly)
[01:34] <illriginal> sda
[01:35] <illriginal> ack i got an error
[01:35] <intelikey> remember to make it less than 2g or it will error.
[01:35] <illriginal> yeah i did
[01:35] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: posted..  i corrected the spelling mistake if that's ok..
[01:35] <illriginal> hold on -_-
[01:35] <ghost__> error to connect  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.
[01:35] <_6StringKng_> anyone installed the xfire plugin for gaim before?
[01:35] <intelikey> 1.9999 should work.
[01:35] <ghost__> is there anyway i can make the updateer use a different server?
[01:35] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer hehhe i said it was yours.  :)
[01:37] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer spelling correction?  /me thinks it needed a gramatical correction  uninstall >>> remove
[01:38] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer and line 5 needs sudo prepended    ;/
[01:38] <illriginal> intelikey: The following operation could not be applied to disk:
[01:38] <illriginal> Create Primary Partition #1 (fat16, 1000.00 MiB) on /dev/sda
[01:38] <intelikey> hmmmm
[01:39] <intelikey> illriginal in a konsole    sudo fdisk -l
[01:39] <intelikey> pastebin the output
[01:39] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: good point.. let me make sure I did that..
[01:39] <illriginal> pastebin.com <- doesnt work right now
[01:40] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer i'm quite prone to not type sudo seeing that it's useless on this system
[01:40] <intelikey> illriginal pastebin.us
[01:40] <intelikey> illriginal pastebin.ca
[01:40] <manwithaface> I encountered the seemingly common initranfs no job control tty issue today, but everything I saw involved the LiveCD, and I am running an otherwise stable 7.04 upgraded in April. Any thoughts?
[01:40] <intelikey> or others
[01:41] <intelikey> manwithaface more accurately termed "unable to mount the root fs, and dropping you into a busybox shell"  issue
[01:41] <manwithaface> seems correct
[01:41] <illriginal> non of those work bro
[01:41] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: do you login as root or just make yourself part of root?
[01:41] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer no.
[01:41] <illriginal> nevermind
[01:41] <illriginal> ca works
[01:42] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: why useless?
[01:42] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer i do have a root console tho
[01:42] <illriginal> intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/495961
[01:42] <intelikey> nosuid system
[01:42] <intelikey> illriginal looking
[01:42] <manwithaface> intelikey: do you know what would cause this in a stable system?
[01:43] <manwithaface> intelikey: I have googled and most of the bugs dealt with LiveCDs, I haven't seen anything about this occuring on an established install
[01:43] <intelikey> illriginal looks like you should be able to;  sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda1
[01:44] <mc__>  do you know when kde-look.org will be back again?
[01:44] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$ sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda1
[01:44] <illriginal> mkfs.msdos 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[01:44] <illriginal> mkfs.msdos: /dev/sda1 contains a mounted file system.
[01:45] <raylu> illriginal, umount it
[01:45] <raylu> sudo umount sda1
[01:46] <illriginal>  sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda1
[01:46] <illriginal> mkfs.msdos 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[01:46] <illriginal> /dev/sda1: No such file or directory
[01:46] <illriginal> yeah i right clicked and clicked eject which is unmounting it.
[01:47] <intelikey> manwithaface yes three common issues come to mind.  1, the initramfs was updated umpropperly (sujests a kernel update has occured)  solution rebuild the initramfs.    2. the bios has changed and the root fs is not where the initramfs expects it to be,  solution; rebuild the initramfs.img or correct the bios.    3. the hd has been phisically moved.  i.e. cable unpluged and pluged into another bus.  solution undo the change. 
[01:47] <illriginal> then typed out the command again, and of course it'll give me that error... it's unmounted lol
[01:47] <intelikey> cable)
[01:47] <raylu> did you just type "umpropperly"?
[01:48] <manwithaface> intelikey: It is a laptop, so not hardware change, haven't changed bios, so must be the first
[01:48] <manwithaface> intelikey: how would I go about rebuilding the initramfs?
[01:48] <intelikey> manwithaface one final thing that can cause that issue.  and this is the one we don't want it to be.    fs failure.    probably cause 1. some knothead did an fdisk or format on it.   2. actual hd dying.
[01:49] <illriginal> intelikey, what do I do now?
[01:49] <illriginal> I wish my step dad wasn't greedy with his computer, i'd just format it on windows xp
[01:49] <raylu> did mkfs.msdos run successfully?
[01:49] <intelikey> to rebuild the initramfs.img     sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-`uname -r` `uname -r`
[01:49] <illriginal> no raylu
[01:49] <illriginal>  sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda1
[01:49] <illriginal> mkfs.msdos 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[01:49] <illriginal> /dev/sda1: No such file or directory
[01:49] <manwithaface> intelikey: I am running windows from the same HDD, so drive works, I have mounted the filesystem under a livecd and it mounted and was broseable without complaint.
[01:49] <raylu> wtf?
[01:49] <illriginal> ^ that's what I get when I unmount and try to make partition
[01:50] <intelikey> illriginal did you make the fs on the partition ?
[01:50] <illriginal> dood i deleted the partition because it WAS FAT32, then I made a new partition, and clicked format to: FAT16
[01:50] <raylu> [18:44:39]  <illriginal> mkfs.msdos: /dev/sda1 contains a mounted file system.
[01:50] <illriginal> now all it does is gives me errors
[01:50] <raylu> can't you do all this from qtparted anyway?
[01:50] <intelikey> manwithaface then you can pretty well eliminate the last and worst of those.
[01:51] <illriginal> raylu.. i've been trying to do this with my thumb drive for an hour now... i just keep gettin errors about how it's mounted
[01:51] <illriginal> but then if i unmount it
[01:51] <illriginal> it wont exist on the list of devices
[01:51] <illriginal> so it's a double edge sword.
[01:51] <manwithaface> intelikey: that is great, drive failure sucks. I do have my /home/ under a different partition so worst thing is a fresh 7.04 and a long day of reinstalling programs and settings
[01:51] <illriginal> seems like linux fails to format a usb thumb drive.
[01:52] <raylu> you can unmount without ejecting. how are you unmounting?
[01:52] <illriginal> im ejecting and unmounting... non of it works.
[01:52] <raylu> try just using sudo umount on it
[01:53] <intelikey> illriginal no.  partition type is not important.  fat is fat on partitions.  you can change the type code and the fs remain...   oh well. i'm pressed for time.        illriginal kill everything reading/viewing that drive, unplug it and replug it start over.  run  sudo cfdisk /dev/sda     and when finished  sudo mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/sda1    good luck to your pinguin.
[01:53] <raylu> why is his thumbdrive sda1?
[01:54] <intelikey> manwithaface try rebuilding the initramfs and make sure /boot/grub/menu.lst is pointed at the new one.     and good luck to your pinguin.   i'm out.
[01:54] <manwithaface> intelikey: i do recall a kernel update/upgrade, but that wasn't too recently, and I have rebooted multiple times since then. I did attempt to upgrade some packages through adept yesterday and got a message saying changes couldn't be commited. I assumed this was trivial
[01:54] <illriginal> ugh
[01:54] <illriginal> it made it into a linux now
[01:55] <illriginal> intelikey
[01:55] <illriginal> after i type  sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[01:55] <illriginal> i then hit new
[01:55] <illriginal> i make it 1000mb
[01:55] <illriginal> then it creates it to Linux
[01:55] <illriginal> does not give me the option to make it fat
[01:56] <manwithaface> Does anyone know how to go about rebuilding initramfs?
[01:56] <illriginal> wait
[01:56] <raylu> you're tryinig to format a usb drive as fat?
[01:56] <illriginal> i go to type
[01:56] <illriginal> yes
[01:56] <illriginal> fat
[01:56] <raylu> i dont understand why you don't do this with qtparted
[01:56] <illriginal> it's for my ps2
[01:56] <illriginal> ps2 only reads fat/fat16
[01:57] <raylu> right...i'm saying you should use qtparted
[01:57] <illriginal> heh... i think this is working now
[01:57] <illriginal>  sudo cfdisk /dev/sda  <- that command
[01:57] <illriginal> so far it seems like it's partitioning it correctly with no errors
[01:58] <raylu>  making a 100mb fat partition shouldn't take long...
[01:59] <illriginal> all i do now is just hit "write" correct?
[01:59] <angasule> I'm getting an md5 failure when trying to go from edgy to feisty :/
[01:59] <illriginal> and it should write the partition table?
[02:00] <raylu> i've never used cfdisk; perhaps someone else knows
[02:00] <raylu> angasule, when checking the cd?
[02:00] <angasule> raylu: no, using adept
[02:00] <raylu> so redownload the package(s)
[02:00] <angasule> raylu: I've retried 3 or 4 times
[02:00] <raylu> o.0
[02:01] <angasule> raylu: I guess the cache is wrong? where do I delete it?
[02:01] <raylu> aptitude clean
[02:01] <mc__> raph: ping?
[02:02] <illriginal> ugh i need to restart
[02:02] <illriginal> brb
[02:07] <angasule> raylu: same md5 error
[02:07] <illriginal> yo ray?
[02:07] <illriginal> Ok I got it to make the partition...
[02:08] <illriginal> the only thing I need now, is to have permission to read/write
[02:09] <mokkan> has anybody here got klash working?
[02:11] <illriginal> Can someone help me give my USB Drive Read/Write access please?!
[02:17] <pete> how can i find out which version of kubuntu i am running?
[02:18] <pete> ?
[02:18] <manwithaface> hate to repost the same thing, but does anyone know how I would rebuild initramfs with a tty "busybox shell" control issue?
[02:19] <Mo0oSaH> when you do man xyz in the terminal how do you get out of it
[02:20] <compilerwriter> mo0oSah type exit
[02:20] <compilerwriter> or close the window
[02:20] <compilerwriter> or do you mean how to quit the more invocation?
[02:21] <bobleny> Hey, I have a question. Is there a way to compile C++ programs so that they can be used in linux?
[02:21] <compilerwriter> yes bobleny compile them from source with gcc I beleive.
[02:22] <bobleny> OK. I'll look into it.
[02:23] <angasule> compilerwriter, bobleny: use g++ , not gcc
[02:23] <compilerwriter> bobleny you may have to make certain you have all the various dev libraries from the repos to do it though.
[02:24] <compilerwriter> Thanks angasule for the correction on the compiler program.
[02:24] <angasule> compilerwriter: you're welcome, I was born to nitpick
[02:24] <mc__> is kde-look.org down for you too?
[02:24] <_6StringKng_> is there anyway to make firefox in linux like in windows where when you clikc in the address sbar it automatically highlights the url?
[02:25] <compilerwriter> At least I was correct in principle angasule.
[02:26] <angasule> hmm, adept keeps failing with an md5 error when I try to upgrade to feisty
[02:27] <pete> what utility can i use to format my thumb drive? right now it is useless...
[02:28] <compilerwriter> angasule will fdisk format a thumb drive?
[02:28] <angasule> compilerwriter: I have no idea
[02:28] <angasule> I'd try qtparted
[02:29] <compilerwriter> pete the expert has spokent qtparted is your best bet.
[02:29] <pete> ok ty
[02:30] <angasule> if I'm the expert we're so screwed ;(
[02:30] <|lostbyte|> lol
[02:35] <youbuntu> pete : one way to get K version is : Kmenu->help->Kubuntu System Documentation Index
[02:35] <youbuntu> example: Kubuntu 7.04 System Documentation
[02:35] <pete> thankyou
[02:35] <compilerwriter> mc__ kde-look.org is down for me .
[02:36] <pete> right now i am running kubuntu dapper, and I would like to upgrade to feisty.  can i just change the repos in adept and click on upgrade??
[02:36] <manwithaface> kde-look.org is no go
[02:37] <noiesmo_> !upgrade
[02:37] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:37] <pete> ty
[02:37] <manwithaface> !initramfs
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <pete> hmm so i have to upgrade to edgy first.....
[02:37] <compilerwriter> or pete you could do a fresh install from iso image.
[02:38] <pete> i tried that a couple times with differant disks and differant iso downloads, it seems to freeze up on my machine.
[02:38] <pete> i think my only option may be to upgrade off the internet :(
[02:40] <raylu> you can't upgrade from dapper->feisty
[02:40] <raylu> you have to get edgy first
[02:41] <mc__> compilerwriter: thank you
[02:42] <youbuntu> where are downloaded apps stored?
[02:42] <pete> !upgrade
[02:42] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:42] <raylu> i forget, youbuntu; dpkg-cache
[02:42] <raylu> er, wait a sec
[02:43] <youbuntu> ok and aother one: where are downloaded update stored? (security patches etc)
[02:43] <raylu>  /etc/apt/sources.list.d i think
[02:44] <raylu> patches should also bet .debs in the same place as the other downloaded apps
[02:44] <raylu> *be
[02:45] <youbuntu> ok thanks I'll look
[02:45] <raylu> why do you want them?
[02:45] <raylu> you shouldn't ever have to deal with them manually
[02:48] <youbuntu> raylu : a couple of reasons - I want to know of I load a clean copy of kubuntu on a friends machine, if i can put on all the patches fom my machine to save long downloads
[02:48] <tim24> wow busy
[02:48] <youbuntu> basicly have there machine fully patched
[02:48] <youbuntu> their
[02:49] <feasty> how can i search for installed packages?
[02:49] <youbuntu> raylu : do u know if this can be done or is risky?
[02:50] <compilerwriter> You are welcome mc__
[02:50] <raylu> it should be fine but
[02:50] <raylu> there aren't many fesity upgrades out
[02:50] <raylu> i don't see any risks here
[02:50] <compilerwriter> feasty open adept and uncheck everything  but installed in the filters.  Then you will be able to see everything you have installed.
[02:51] <tim24> how do i get a server or channel list ???
[02:51] <feasty> how do i do it on the command line?
[02:51] <youbuntu> raylu : i guess it's more for added apps
[02:51] <feasty> does dpkg not offer such a service?
[02:51] <feasty> or apt
[02:52] <compilerwriter> I would have to read the man page on them.  I do very little from command line that I don't have to feasty/
[02:53] <feasty> im just trying kubuntu out.  normally i use gentoo so im a command line whore :).  cheers anyway compilerwriter
[02:54] <undiculous> could anyone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for getting beryl running and setting up genuinely transparent terminals with the ati fglrx driver?
[02:55] <Sanne> feasty: 'dpkg -l' lists your installed packages
[02:55] <feasty> cheers Sanne
[02:55] <Sanne> :)
[02:56] <youbuntu> raylu : or any one: when packages are installed then installed. do they remain on the disk some where?
[02:56] <Sanne> feasty: also the manpages of dpkg, apt-get and apt-cache might be of interest to you, regarding packages.
[02:56] <feasty> undiculous, i think you can start bryl by typing beryl and passing the option --display with your X display session
[02:57] <feasty> Sanne, managers?  gui?
[02:57] <feasty> Sanne,  or just the apps?
[02:57] <youbuntu> it can get messy if I try a few packages and then uninstall (if they remain on disk)
[02:57] <david2__> hmjm
[02:57] <Sanne> feasty: those are command line apps, since you asked for those ;)
[02:57] <feasty> yeah, ive been using them. i just knew how to install stuff though.  thanks again :)
[02:58] <david2__> how does linux see permissions linux to linux if you mount a server on a linux machine?
[02:58] <undiculous> feasty: what's my x display session?
[02:59] <feasty> 'echo $DISPLAY' undiculous
[02:59] <Sanne> youbuntu: the downloaded packages get saved to the package cache in /var/cache/apt/archives. How long they remain depends on configuration. Maybe you find a setting for that in adept, I know there is one in synaptic. You can clean this cache by typing: apt-get clean
[02:59] <james> #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
[03:00] <feasty> i think you would pass it to beryl as beryl --display localhost$DISPLAY
[03:00] <feasty> if not then try it without the localhost part
[03:00] <youbuntu> Sanne : thanks v.much
[03:00] <Sanne> feasty: I recommended the manpages because those apps provide also nice information about installed packages and such, in addition to installing.
[03:00] <Sanne> youbuntu: you're welcome :)
[03:01] <james> I need help installing RealPlayer10 in FeistyFawn Ubuntu
[03:01] <Zeelot3k> could anyone suggest me a good audio player app?
[03:01] <david2__> hold on xine works for me
[03:01] <david2__> and ...
[03:01] <feasty> Sanne, yeah im just browsing them now.
[03:01] <undiculous> feasty: when it's checking for xcomposite extension, it fails and tells me there is none
[03:01] <Sanne> feasty: :)
[03:01] <undiculous> feasty: what is a composite extension?
[03:01] <david2__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu for video
[03:02] <david2__> add the repositories and shit works'
[03:02] <james> david2, please dispense with the vulgarities
[03:02] <david2__> oops
[03:03] <david2__> vigin ears I forgot
[03:03] <feasty> undiculous, you need to add this to your Xorg.conf file:
[03:03] <leonardo_> hello guys! how do i configure keyboard on tty?
[03:03] <feasty> Section "Extensions"
[03:03] <feasty>     Option "Composite" "Enable"
[03:03] <feasty> EndSection
[03:03] <n4zgul> hello guys! how do i configure keyboard on tty?
[03:03] <james> they're not virgin, I just don't think it's necessary
[03:03] <compilerwriter> !pastebin | feasty
[03:03] <ubotu> feasty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <feasty> compilerwriter, yeah sorry
[03:04] <david2__> to each there own
[03:05] <undiculous> feasty: it stiill seems to fail the xcomposite extension check. do i need to restart x?
[03:05] <james> It makes the online experience dirty
[03:05] <n4zgul> hello guys! how do i configure keyboard on tty?
[03:05] <feasty> undiculous, yeah you will do
[03:06] <compilerwriter> !attitude | n4zgul
[03:06] <ubotu> n4zgul: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:06] <undiculous> feasty: alright, great. thanks :)
[03:06] <feasty> undiculous, did it work?
[03:06] <james> How do I install Realplayer10 in Feisty Dawn?
[03:07] <n4zgul> sorry =[
[03:07] <james> Feisty Fawn
[03:07] <compilerwriter> n4zgul there is no need to keep harping on a question that often.  If someone on at the time knows the answer they will help you.
[03:12] <raylu> james, why do you want realplayer?
[03:16] <undiculous> feasty: i restarted my session and it got past the earlier point, but now I have a whole variety of other error messages
[03:16] <pete> !upgrade
[03:16] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[03:18] <undiculous> feasty: it says extension XFree96-DRI is missing on display :0.0, it failis the check for non power of two texture support, it says glXBindTexImageEXT is missing, it fails to manage screen 0, and says that no manageable screens were found on display :0.0
[03:19] <undiculous> oh, hey, feasty isn't here. can anyone help me get beryl working with the ati fglrx driver?
[03:19] <undiculous> i'm trying to start it with beryl --display $DISPLAY, but it gives me these errors
[03:20] <undiculous> it says extension XFree96-DRI is missing on display :0.0, it failis the check for non power of two texture support, it says glXBindTexImageEXT is missing, it fails to manage screen 0, and says that no manageable screens were found on display :0.0
[03:20] <voidmage> undiculous: tried buying a nvidia card?
[03:20] <voidmage> ;P
[03:21] <undiculous> voidmage: haha, i'd love to. feel free to send me more money :)
[03:21] <voidmage> well anyways
[03:21] <voidmage> what card what's the exact error?
[03:21] <voidmage> and what are you trying to do, beryl?
[03:21] <undiculous> it's i think radeon mobile x300
[03:21] <undiculous> yeah. in general, i just want genuinely transparent terminals
[03:21] <voidmage> are you using xgl?
[03:22] <undiculous> i don't know what xgl is
[03:22] <voidmage> you have to use xgl with fglrx to use beryl
[03:22] <voidmage> !xgl
[03:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:22] <voidmage> i'll get a better link
[03:22] <undiculous> alright, thanks
[03:24] <voidmage> hmm
[03:24] <voidmage> i think ubotu's link is good
[03:24] <_6StringKng_> when I login I get some error about a missing background image, could come help me fix this?
[03:24] <voidmage> i'm not really sure though
[03:24] <voidmage> ask in #ubuntu-effects how to install xgl
[03:25] <undiculous> alright, great. thanks a lot
[03:25] <_6StringKng_> uh, anyone
[03:25] <manwithaface> is your bg missing?
[03:26] <manwithaface> did it change locations before you rebooted?
[03:26] <_6StringKng_> apparently
[03:26] <_6StringKng_> no
[03:26] <manwithaface> odd
[03:26] <manwithaface> where was it?
[03:26] <_6StringKng_> I think what hapened is I tried to change th efingerprint splash screen and dicked something up
[03:26] <manwithaface> oh, i tried that once
[03:26] <manwithaface> bad idea
[03:26] <_6StringKng_> yeah
[03:26] <_6StringKng_> noticed, lol
[03:27] <_6StringKng_> I would re-install but was hoping someone could help me
[03:27] <manwithaface> just use a different splash
[03:27] <raylu> could you give us the whole error?
[03:27] <_6StringKng_> tried, still gives me the error, lol
[03:27] <manwithaface> hm
[03:28] <_6StringKng_> uh, well I'm downloading something, almost, I restart once its done and get the whole error message
[03:28] <_6StringKng_> but said something about missing background.jpg
[03:28] <_6StringKng_> almost done*
[03:30] <ghost__> hrm
[03:31] <blackvd> whats the name of the plugins i need to install for my browser? i.e. flash, thanks!
[03:31] <raylu> what browser?
[03:31] <blackvd> firefox
[03:33] <|lostbyte|> blackvd, simply view a page with flash and install flash as the firefox tells you too.
[03:33] <_6StringKng_> flashplugin-nonfree I thhink
[03:33] <_6StringKng_> use adept
[03:33] <blackvd> cool thanks
[03:33] <|lostbyte|> yes, thats the other way ^^
[03:35] <blackvd> that's the way i"m looking for, but that wasn't it. any other clues? I tried searching flash but can't find anything
[03:35] <manwithaface> does anyone know how to rebuild initramfs from a nonbooting system?
[03:37] <|lostbyte|> try any flash site.
[03:41] <jones> alguem do brasil???
[03:41] <gmcfonseca> Eu instalei o Kubuntu no meu notebook. Como seleciono o teclado us_acentos .. ainda nao vi essa opo.
[03:42] <jones> olha perto do seu relogio e v o pradrao que esta...
[03:43] <jones> provavelmente deve ser o padrao us ki tem uma bandeirinha do EUA
[03:43] <Jucato> !br | jones
[03:43] <ubotu> jones: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:44] <cpk1> bah I cant get the binary nvidia drivers to work
[03:46] <blackvd> gotta say I'm starting to dislike kubuntu, whats the deal with flash not working in firefox? says you have to use some jerry rig method to get it working in 64 bit, which i tried and doesnt work. However when  was running sabayon 64 it worked fine? so what the hell? how do i get a working flash plugin?
[03:48] <cpk1> Currently there is NO Adobe flash implementation available for 64-bit processors.
[03:48] <manwithaface> i for one blame hardware manufacturers
[03:48] <blackvd> so how am i suppose to view flash?
[03:49] <gmcfonseca> Eu instalei o Kubuntu no meu notebook. Como seleciono o teclado us_acentos .. ainda nao vi essa opo.
[03:49] <cpk1> blackvd: should be pretty easy if you follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:49] <gmcfonseca> como seto o meu teclado notebook no ubuntu..
[03:49] <gmcfonseca> Eu quer us acentos, e nao sei odn ealterar
[03:50] <Jucato_> gmcfonseca: English only please
[03:50] <blackvd> cpk1: thanks for the link,I'll try it.
[03:57] <jake> hi everybody.. what the keyboard shortcut for beryl to do the cube desktop
[03:58] <n4zgul> jake:make sure that the configurations of xgl are fine and hold on ctrl+alt and then press arrow buttons for move from a desk to another in cube form
[03:58] <jake> xgl? i mean beryl
[04:00] <jake> how can you do a cube just like you have a virtual desktop wallpaper.. because my beryl is only doing the cube
[04:03] <timmay> hey every body
[04:04] <compilerwriter> Jucato Good morrow to you.
[04:04] <Jucato> hey compilerwriter
[04:04] <matt__> hi Jake, Ctrl+Alt + arrow left would spin the cube
[04:04] <compilerwriter> Are we having fun yet.
[04:04] <timmay> hey is there a way to add more desktops than just the default 2?
[04:05] <stdin> timmay: yeah, just right click the applet and choose "Configure Desktops"
[04:05] <stdin> you can have up to 20
[04:06] <timmay> man i feel like an idiot LOL
[04:06] <jake> no imean not only spining the cube.. please look at this link...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM&mode=related&search=
[04:06] <timmay> kept right-clicking in the wrong spot
[04:08] <compilerwriter> Jucato which config file must one edit in order make it so that one must possess a keyfile to login remotely?  I had it set up once and then did a fresh install and now can't remeber what I need to do to disable password remote login.
[04:08] <stdin> jake: you mean a skydome ?
[04:08] <stdin> jake: the image behind the cube?
[04:09] <Jucato> compilerwriter: dunno sorry
 please watch this vid.. this exactly what im talking about
[04:09] <stdin> in ssh?
[04:09] <jake> yes yes yes the skydome
[04:11] <jake> do i have to browse for more pictures?
[04:11] <jake> please guys tech me how to do  the skydome
[04:12] <_6StringKng_> trying to install this patch for ET but I can't copy the files due to root access or something
[04:13] <stdin> jake: just download them, google for it: http://tinyurl.com/3yl3ez and set it up in beryl settings under "Desktop -> Desktop Cube -> Skydome"
[04:13] <jake> thanks
[04:13] <bader_> hello all.. Can someone help me out with a couple of things?
[04:14] <bader_> how do i get my ATI drivers running? I installed them using Adept Manager..
[04:14] <nixternal> bader_: just go ahead and ask, if someone can help they will :)
[04:14] <nixternal> !ati
[04:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:14] <bader_> Thanks nixternal
[04:14] <nixternal> you can give that a look over...I know there are a couple of command line things you have to do iirc
[04:15] <_6StringKng_> how do I change ownership of a file so I can copy into another dir
[04:15] <raylu> !chown
[04:15] <bader_> I've already looked at that though.  Do ATI drivers need the restricted drivers manager?
[04:15] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:15] <raylu> what in the world...
[04:15] <nixternal> bader_: they should build dep on it
[04:15] <stdin> bader_: no, that's ubuntu only
[04:15] <raylu> that has nothing to do with chown
[04:15] <raylu> _6StringKng_, use chown
[04:16] <_6StringKng_> getting on it, just not too familiar with it, lol
[04:16] <nixternal> sudo chown username:group file
[04:16] <stdin> bader_: they need restricted-modules tho, that page gives full info
[04:16] <bader_> ah..  I see.
[04:16] <bader_> *sigh* so confusing
[04:17] <stdin> bader_: just follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3
[04:17] <stdin> the edgy instructions tho
[04:18] <stdin> as it's not very kubuntu friendly
[04:20] <_6StringKng_> thanks nixternal
[04:20] <nixternal> yup
[04:20] <_6StringKng_> I knew I had to use chown, just didn't really know how to use it, lmao
[04:20] <raylu> man chown
[04:23] <aubadde> stdin: lol, link?
[04:23] <nixternal> haha
[04:23] <raylu> what's wrong with vim?
[04:23] <nixternal> stdin: I leave those binary pages alone
[04:23] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:23] <ionstorm> heh
[04:23] <aubadde> raylu: Nothing, just it's kind of intimidating to convertees.
[04:24] <raylu> i suppose. but nano is only slightly less
[04:24] <stdin> it says: "After making all those modifications, your X server might not want to start again. Don't worry, you can still modify xorg.conf using vim"
[04:28] <bader_> wait, so I'm supposed to go with the Edgy installation though im using Kubuntu --> Feisty?
[04:28] <raylu> of the ati driver? it should be mostly if not totally the same
[04:29] <youbuntu> how is lock-session automated? (eg auto lock after 5 min inactivity)
[04:29] <bader_> well, the feisty section says to dl it of the ATI site rather than use the manager.
[04:29] <bader_> wouldnt that have a different version / setup?
[04:29] <raylu> hopefully not...
[04:29] <raylu> oh. wait
[04:30] <raylu> i'd suggest doing it from the package manager
[04:30] <bader_> how do you paste text into the module?
[04:30] <raylu> what module?
[04:30] <stdin> bader_: unless you want to have to set it up again after the kernel is updated, and every time after that, use the packages
[04:30] <bader_> sorry i mean, terminal
[04:30] <raylu> terminal?
[04:30] <raylu> shift+insert
[04:30] <raylu> unless you want to configure it to be ctrl+v
[04:30] <bader_> lol i wouldnt know how to.
[04:31] <Ertain> I can't seem to mount a DVD-RW drive.  The disc has some data on it, but it won't read.  I'm on Feisty.
[04:31] <raylu> settings > configure shortcut
[04:32] <bader_> lol ty
[04:32] <aubadde> Any good >video< players built with QT using libxine as its backend?
[04:32] <raylu> but ctrl+* isn't recommended in the console
[04:32] <raylu> aubadde, you could try wikipedia-ing xine
[04:33] <aubadde> mm
[04:33] <bader_> so i did "sudo depmod -a" is supposed to "Generate a new set of module dependencies so the fglrx driver starts properly" .. Nothing happened in the terrminal ( no output)  any way to check that it  actually worked?
[04:34] <mo0osah> is it possible to minimize konqueror to tray without using other utils?
[04:34] <raylu> i'm not 100% sure, but all depmod does is
[04:34] <raylu> check dependencies, so if nothing happens, all the better
[04:35] <raylu> mo0osah, that doesn't make sense; why would you want to minimize konqueror?
[04:35] <raylu> *to the tray
[04:35] <mo0osah> raylu, so that it stays open and I dont have to open a new instance everytime
[04:36] <mo0osah> just like frequenty used apps in tray
[04:37] <raylu> mo0osah, there is a way to pre-load konqueror so that it loads faster
[04:37] <mo0osah> raylu how?
[04:37] <raylu> it's _somewhere_ in the settings. im looking for i
[04:37] <raylu> t
[04:37] <stdin> bader_: if there was no output, then it worked
[04:38] <raylu> the last tab, oddly
[04:38] <mo0osah> raylu: actually mine loads fast anyway
[04:38] <raylu> settings > performance
[04:40] <bader_> argh..
[04:40] <bader_> okay.. when i did the installation manually, i got the right driver..
[04:40] <bader_> when i redid it following the steps on the site,
[04:40] <bader_> i lost the driver, and got the generic one
[04:41] <bader_> ! this sucks
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about this sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <bader_> lol?
[04:41] <raylu> LOL
[04:41] <bader_> and i accidentally updated Adpept manager! i dont know how to use the search anymore
[04:41] <bader_> :/
[04:42] <raylu> um...i'm not sure how to explain how to use the search, but you can always use the command line
[04:42] <raylu> aptitude search [name] 
[04:43] <stdin> or apt-cache search [thing to search for] 
[04:43] <bader_> well okay, im just trying to find the ATI driver in Adept manager, how do i go about doing that? I Type "ATI driver" and get no hitss!
[04:44] <stdin> bader_: search for "fglrx"
[04:45] <stdin> or just search for "ATI"
[04:45] <bader_> but "ati" gives me a hell of a large load of results..
[04:45] <raylu> oh...yeah, package names don't contain spaces. as such, the only hits you'll return are from the description
[04:45] <bader_> I don't know whats what.
[04:45] <raylu> so search fglrx
[04:45] <bader_> trying it out
[04:45] <bader_> now*
[04:46] <raylu> unless you want that other driver who's name i can't remember
[04:46] <bader_> i found it! .. Wait, whats the Kernel source?  shouldnt that be installed too?
[04:46] <stdin> no
[04:47] <stdin> you don't need/want the source
[04:47] <raylu> lies. everyone wants the source
[04:47] <stdin> only if you want to compile the kernel
[04:47] <bader_> great, its installed.
[04:48] <bader_> :)
[04:48] <fabien> salut
[04:48] <bader_> what the.. my driver isnt changing when i check it in the Terminal!
[04:48] <bader_> argh!
[04:48] <bader_>  /cry
[04:48] <bader_> does this need a restart or something?
[04:49] <stdin> edit xorg.conf to use the driver
[04:49] <bader_> t0 use it?
[04:49] <raylu> wasn't there some command that did this for you?
[04:49] <raylu> or is that the other ati driver again?
[04:49] <compilerwriter> sldkfj
[04:49] <raylu> !fr | fabien
[04:49] <ubotu> fabien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:50] <TheDebugger> He just said "salut"....
[04:50] <stdin> you have to install the package to do it, or just make sure that under the "Device" section, the Driver is set to "Driver "fglrx" "
[04:50] <bader_> I'm not sure.  I did fglrxinfo and got "Mesa" or something like that, which the site mentions is incorrect.  Funny thing is thats not what I saw earlier.
[04:51] <bader_> the device section? the device section of whaT? How do i get there?
[04:52] <stdin> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:53] <stdin> change ' Driver "ati" ' or ' Driver "radeon" ' to ' Driver "fglrx" '
[04:53] <raylu> yeah, but then he didn't say anything. and i just said !fr :P
[04:53] <david2_> ah sudo vim  /etc/X11/xorg.conf works too
[04:53] <raylu> *vesa, i believe
[04:53] <stdin> good got don't use vim :p
[04:53] <bader_> Section "Device"
[04:53] <bader_> 	Identifier  "ATI Technologies Inc R430 [Radeon X800 XL]  (PCIe)"
[04:53] <bader_> 	Driver      "ati"
[04:53] <bader_> 	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
[04:53] <bader_> EndSection
[04:53] <bader_> isnt that fine!?
[04:54] <bader_> that IS my graphics card..
[04:54] <stdin> bader_: no, change ' Driver "ati" ' to ' Driver "fglrx" '
[04:54] <bader_> ah
[04:54] <bader_> is that all?
[04:55] <stdin> yeah, you may have to turn Composit off too
[04:55] <stdin> add this to the end of the file:
[04:55] <stdin> Section "Extensions"
[04:55] <stdin>         Option      "Composite" "Disable"
[04:55] <stdin> EndSection
[04:56] <bader_> There is no Extenstions section.
[04:56] <stdin> yeah, add it
[04:56] <stdin> to the end of the file
[04:57] <bader_> Done.
[04:57] <bader_> so is the info command supposed to return the correct thing now?
[04:58] <bader_> Cuz its still not :/
[04:58] <stdin> no, you need to restart X now
[04:58] <dr_willis> you must restart X after ediing that file.
[04:58] <bader_> oh
[04:58] <dr_willis> thats a 'common' thing with linux configs. :)
[04:58] <bader_> i see.
[04:58] <bader_> Thanks!
[04:58] <dr_willis> they get ran at program startup.
[04:58] <bader_> I'll brb then.
[04:58] <dr_willis> get read at startup i mean.
[04:58] <bader_> Wait, so how do i restart X?  There a command? Or I just restart the PC?
[04:59] <stdin> logout and press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[04:59] <bader_> Thanks. Brb
[04:59] <Alonea> what is the name of the default video driver? the envy thing didn't work on the nvidia and I was trying to reverse the xorg.conf. currently set to vesa, but I don't think that is the one that it was at before
[05:00] <stdin> "nv" for nvidia
[05:00] <raylu> you should keep a backup of a known, working xorg.conf
[05:00] <bader_> back!
[05:00] <bader_> OMG! My resolution went UBER!
[05:00] <raylu> ...high?
[05:01] <bader_> yes!  1024 was getting annoying!
[05:01] <bader_> lol
[05:01] <raylu> i'm in 1024 :(
[05:01] <bader_> lo0l.
[05:01] <raylu> it's annoying because i'm used to 1280
[05:01] <bader_> lol dude i solved that with 15 bucks :P
[05:01] <raylu> so it feels like...a part of me is gone :'(
[05:01] <bader_> got me an old CRT monitor.
[05:01] <bader_> why're you on 1024?
[05:01] <bader_> aah
[05:01] <stdin> heh, my desktop uses 1600x1200
[05:02] <bader_> >.< You can always attach an external moniter! :P
[05:02] <raylu> luckily, i have 4 desktops, so its all good :P
[05:02] <bader_> lol monitor**
[05:02] <bader_> haha
[05:02] <bader_> i see.
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> 1680x1050 :)
[05:02] <bader_> ooh ooh
[05:02] <raylu> just not as good as having one giant desktop, though
[05:02] <stdin> my laptop is on 1280x1024
[05:02] <bader_> i wanna know if the drivers running now.. what do i do? fxglrinfo?
[05:02] <raylu> fglrxinfo
[05:02] <bader_> (Im guessing it is though since my rez is awsome:P)
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> lsmod | grep fglrx works too
[05:03] <bader_> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:03] <bader_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:03] <bader_> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:03] <bader_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:03] <bader_> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[05:03] <bader_> *sigh*
[05:03] <bader_> Do I slit my wrists now, or in the morning?
[05:04] <raylu> mesa is the gl thing. that's correct
[05:04] <bader_> wha? but the site says otherwise..
[05:04] <raylu> you may be getting it confused with vesa. but if iirc, it was ati that used to be in your xorg.conf
[05:04] <raylu> what site?
[05:04] <bader_> Says I should have "ATI.." showing up there right?
[05:04] <bader_> mmmmmmm one sec
[05:06] <bader_> damnit, i lost it.  The one i was given earlier
[05:06] <bader_> !ati
[05:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:06] <bader_> oh..
[05:06] <bader_> lol there it is
[05:06] <raylu> oh...i see
[05:06] <stdin> bader_: run: "sudo aticonfig --initial"  and "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv"
[05:06] <Zeelot> hello again, question -> I have an onboard sound and a sound card..last night I played a video and worked fine....but now it only plays the audio if I use the onboard sound
[05:07] <Zeelot> anyone know if this is just a setting and where I can find it?
[05:07] <bader_> Found fglrx primary device section
[05:07] <bader_> Nothing to do, terminating
[05:07] <bader_> on the first command
[05:07] <bader_> is that right?
[05:07] <stdin> yeah
[05:08] <bader_> Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[05:08] <bader_> Warning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[05:08] <bader_> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:08] <bader_> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-1
[05:08] <bader_> whaa? lol..
[05:08] <stdin> that's ok too
[05:08] <bader_> But I'm still on the mesa thing :'(
[05:09] <bader_> site says im supposed to get something like :
[05:09] <bader_> $ fglrxinfo
[05:09] <bader_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:09] <bader_> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[05:09] <bader_> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9700 Generic
[05:09] <bader_> OpenGL version string: 2.0.5755 (8.24.8)
[05:09] <stdin> bader_: look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d01742cec183112be090e459b74129606e258f79
[05:09] <stdin> bader_: do what it says, then restart X again after
[05:09] <bader_> alright
[05:09] <bader_> should i start at the begginning?
[05:09] <stdin> no
[05:10] <bader_> oh.
[05:10] <stdin> you've already done it
[05:10] <bader_> k
[05:10] <raylu> Zeelot, try system settings > sound > hardware > select the audio device
[05:10] <Zeelot> hello raylu =P 1 sec
[05:10] <bader_> mkdir --> cannot make the directory..
[05:10] <bader_> lol
[05:10] <bader_> needs a sudo?
[05:11] <stdin> yeah, for both commands
[05:11] <dr_willis> logical eh? :)
[05:12] <Zeelot> raylu:  my device isnt listed? I dont know what any of those do (Open Sound System)
[05:13] <stdin> !sound
[05:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:14] <K-Ryan> hey guys
[05:15] <bader_> LOL
[05:15] <raylu> Zeelot, neither do i :P
[05:15] <bader_> DONE
[05:15] <jake> guys what keyboard shortcut or mouse shortcut do you use in beryl to zoom the desktop? thanks
[05:15] <bader_> isplay: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:15] <bader_> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[05:15] <bader_> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 XL
[05:15] <bader_> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[05:16] <raylu> jake, it's customizable. the zoom plugin is under accessibility
[05:16] <K-Ryan> Not sure about zooming in...
[05:16] <K-Ryan> raylu how about default?
[05:16] <raylu> you win, bader_!
[05:16] <jake> ok thankz
[05:16] <bader_> HAH! thank you guys!!
[05:16] <raylu> K=kate by any chance
[05:16] <bader_> I dont win yet though.
[05:16] <BWolf_> hello
[05:16] <bader_> Beryl still needs to get its butt on here.
[05:16] <K-Ryan> Hi there BWolf
[05:16] <raylu> K-Ryan, i don't know what the default is =\
[05:16] <Corpis> monster@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /home/monster/UT2004 /usr/local/games/
[05:16] <Corpis> cp: omitting directory `/home/monster/UT2004'
[05:16] <K-Ryan> Just figured I'd ask, it's alright raylu
[05:16] <Corpis> why isnt it transfering?
[05:17] <fignew> Corpis: use cp -r
[05:17] <BWolf_> have an issue my  wireless will not work in kubuntu. it will only work if i switch from gnome connect to the net then log out and switch to kde
[05:17] <fignew> you need to recursively copy the folder :)
[05:17] <raylu> Corpis, sounds like you should be using make install instead
[05:17] <raylu> BWolf_, is the knetworkmanager running?
[05:17] <BWolf_> yah
[05:17] <jake> guys what does the <Super>n means in the shortcut?
[05:18] <fignew> raylu: lol, UT2004 doesn't have make ;)
[05:18] <raylu> oh. i suppose it'd be kinda hard to get it working for you while you're on that computer...you don't happen to have another one, do you?
[05:18] <fignew> Super: windows key
[05:18] <Corpis> -r didnt work
[05:18] <raylu> jake, super = windows key
[05:18] <bader_> So I've got my accellerated driver on (i do, dont i?) what do I need to get beryl on here?
[05:18] <fignew> Corpis: it's capital -R
[05:18] <bader_> talking to me raylu?
[05:18] <fignew> grrrrr
[05:18] <K-Ryan> Has anyone setup DoomRL by any chance? I'm having trouble with it.
[05:18] <raylu> no bader_
[05:18] <bader_> lol okay
[05:18] <fignew> Corpis: it's capital -R
[05:18] <raylu> bader_, sudo aptitude install beryl
[05:18] <bader_> thats it@!?
[05:19] <bader_> WOOHOO!!
[05:19] <K-Ryan> Well you have to install beryl and what is it
[05:19] <bader_> lol
[05:19] <K-Ryan> emerald something
[05:19] <K-Ryan> I'm unsure of the package name
 oops im using ibm thinkpad whats the equivalent of windows key in ibm?
[05:19] <BWolf_> any idea why?
[05:19] <raylu> i think it installs that automatically
[05:20] <bader_> lol Raylu.. :P I've seen it.  I've actually got another PC that's working beryl as we speek
[05:20] <raylu> jake, i don't think there is one
[05:20] <Corpis> k yea
[05:20] <K-Ryan> The help file said to install em both, so I don't think it does.
[05:20] <Corpis> that doesnt work either
[05:20] <Corpis> lol
[05:20] <stdin> damned server updates are killing me
[05:20] <bader_> only its on UBUNTU and the Nvidia driver was fairly simple, for some reason.
[05:20] <raylu> i've never had to install both, though
[05:20] <K-Ryan> Yeah the Nvidia driver was rather easy to install wasn't it?
 can i change the value?
[05:20] <bader_> yep
[05:20] <raylu> jake, of course. just double click
[05:20] <K-Ryan> I've installed both an Ati Radeon and my Nvidia GeForce
[05:20] <K-Ryan> TOTAL difference.
[05:21] <raylu> oh. that's not a server split
[05:21] <nixternal> !netsplit
[05:21] <bader_> haha yep, same.. just got done with Nvidia :P
[05:21] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:21] <stdin> bader_: installing beryl is easy "sudo apt-get install beryl-kubuntu emerald-themes" and your're done
[05:21] <raylu> no, that's them upgrading 4 servers
[05:21] <K-Ryan> But yeah, install the beryl package and the emerald theme package then run beryl
[05:21] <K-Ryan> yeah, that, emerald-themes
[05:21] <raylu> [22:20:55]  [wallops]   ok, about 1600 users in this next round, 2 servers.
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> does anyone know why kde-look.org is down?
[05:22] <raylu> because it is not up.
[05:22] <K-Ryan> hehehe
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> :P
[05:22] <K-Ryan> Has anyone installed DoomRL before?
[05:22] <K-Ryan> Could someone help me out if I linked?
[05:22] <Corpis> there a command to open konqueror with sudo rights?
[05:22] <Zeelot> stdin: the problem isn't drivers, as the sound was working last night, the problem is now it seems to be using my onboard device instead of the SBLIVE device to play sounds
[05:22] <Mayoko> hey I just swiched from windows and Im wondering if there is a decent program like newsbin (newsgroup program) that can do ssl?
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> Corpis: kdesu konqueror
[05:22] <raylu> Corpis, why would you sudo konqueror?
[05:23] <raylu> oh. with su rights? yes, kdesu
[05:23] <stdin> Corpis: kdesu konqueror, NOT sudo
[05:23] <Corpis> so I can fuckin caste paste this shit in there
[05:23] <Corpis> k
[05:23] <raylu> caste o.0
[05:23] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Corpis
[05:23] <ubotu> Corpis: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:23] <Corpis> paste
[05:23] <Corpis> lol
[05:23] <bader_> umm, am i in trouble if i had beryl installed before i did all my driver stuff?
[05:23] <Corpis> =(
[05:23] <fignew> bader_: no
[05:23] <raylu> Mayoko, akregator
[05:23] <raylu> though I don't know about ssl
[05:23] <bader_> but it wont run.. it loads then dissapears..
[05:23] <raylu> or newgroup, actually :P
[05:24] <K-Ryan> no bader_ it's fine
[05:24] <stdin> bader_: no, just make sure both those packages are installed anyway, just makes things work better with kubuntu
[05:24] <fignew> bader_: assuming you didn't do anything weird ;)
[05:24] <Mayoko> lol
[05:24] <K-Ryan> bader_ are you trying to run it through the terminal?
[05:24] <raylu> Mayoko, you should also try that kontact stuff (in the place of quicklaunch by default)
[05:24] <bader_> well my graphics driver's fine i think
[05:24] <bader_> nope
[05:24] <K-Ryan> Try that
[05:24] <stdin> bader_: ooh, with ATI, you need XGL
[05:24] <K-Ryan> Type in beryl-manager
[05:24] <stdin> !xgl
[05:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:24] <youbuntu> lock
[05:24] <raylu> it would make more sense to ask for the output of beryl, K-Ryan
[05:25] <bader_> isnt XGL built into beryl?
[05:25] <stdin> no
[05:25] <bader_> << confused.
[05:25] <K-Ryan> Oh, my bad
[05:25] <bader_> lol
[05:25] <youbuntu> oops :)
[05:25] <stdin> why would it be
[05:25] <bader_> i dont know lol i thought it just was..
[05:25] <stdin> XGL is bloated, and only needed for ati :p
[05:25] <bader_> ah.
[05:25] <bader_> So how do i get that?
[05:25] <Zeelot> stdin: know what else could be the problem?
[05:26] <stdin> bader_: http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez
[05:26] <K-Ryan> XGL was a pain for me
[05:26] <K-Ryan> I tried to do it withing my first week of Kubuntu...
[05:26] <bader_> so wait, is what your saying that ATI wont use beryl at all?
[05:26] <stdin> Zeelot: on one of those pages (don't quite remember) you can tell the sound system what card to use by default
[05:26] <K-Ryan> Oh it will work
[05:27] <K-Ryan> It's just to get your graphics acceleration to work, you need XGL.
[05:27] <Mayoko> I googled akregator and it looks like a rss reader, im looking for a newsgroup reader =/
[05:27] <stdin> Zeelot: or you can see if you can disable the onboard card in the BIOS
[05:27] <bader_> lol im so confused. xgl = compiz?
[05:27] <stdin> bader_: no
[05:27] <K-Ryan> No
[05:27] <raylu> Mayoko, it _might_ do both. it comes with kubuntu
[05:27] <K-Ryan> !XGL
[05:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:27] <K-Ryan> Seperate, see?
[05:27] <K-Ryan> *Separate
[05:27] <stdin> bader_: XGL lets you _use_ things like compiz and beryl
[05:27] <bader_> i see, i think :P
[05:28] <bader_> i see i see
[05:28] <stdin> bader_: *if you have ati
[05:28] <raylu> Mayoko, also try kontact
[05:28] <bader_> mmm
[05:28] <Corpis> omitting directory
[05:28] <Corpis> what exactly does that mean?
[05:29] <K-Ryan> Excluding
[05:29] <stdin> Corpis: to copy a directory do: cp -R /path/to/dir /place/to/copy/to
[05:30] <bader_> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main | do i need to do this?
[05:30] <stdin> no
[05:30] <K-Ryan> Don't worry about compiz at all
[05:30] <stdin> beryl is in the feisty repos
[05:30] <K-Ryan> You need XGL
[05:30] <stdin> bader_: installing beryl is easy "sudo apt-get install beryl-kubuntu emerald-themes" and your're done
[05:30] <K-Ryan> And what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[05:30] <stdin> you still need XGL tho
[05:31] <raylu> Corpis, cp will take multiple directories; sometimes it will choose to omit one for various reasons, though i can't imagine why
[05:31] <raylu> Corpis, try the -v flag. hopefully, it's verbose
[05:31] <bader_> lol i understand that but im consfused as that how to obtain XGL still
[05:31] <K-Ryan> Hold on
[05:31] <stdin> bader_: http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez
[05:31] <raylu> doens't advanced beryl options > force xgl do it?
[05:32] <raylu> *doesn't?
[05:32] <stdin> you still need to install xgl
[05:32] <bader_> I wouldn't know.
[05:32] <bader_> lol.
[05:32] <K-Ryan> stdin to be honest
[05:32] <Corpis> ok
[05:32] <K-Ryan> I installed XGL once before, and I can't really make light of this page, so I wouldn't expect bader_ to.
[05:33] <Corpis> not sure
[05:33] <youbuntu> !lock
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Corpis> but it wokrd fine uder root session
[05:33] <Corpis> thx ;)
[05:33] <stdin> hmm, I should have looked at it, it's horrible
[05:33] <raylu> o.0 wtf.
[05:33] <Corpis> worked*
[05:33] <K-Ryan> Yeah...
[05:33] <raylu> youbuntu, can't do anything with apt/adept?
[05:33] <K-Ryan> I mean it has what you need to do, except it's not user friendly.
[05:34] <bader_> lol i've been scrolling up and down it.. and almost every mention of XGL is related to compiz..
[05:34] <stdin> bader_: follow the installation and Kubuntu parts of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[05:34] <Zeelot> found the solution ^_^ the onboard was set as default device for some reason so ran 'sudo asoundconf list' to get list of the devices and 'sudo asoundconf set-default-card [name] ' to change it to the SB Live card
[05:34] <stdin> bader_: compiz and beryl are mostly the same, and soon will be one thing (again)
[05:35] <K-Ryan> What does compiz do that's different?
[05:35] <youbuntu> raylu : like what?
[05:35] <K-Ryan> I had never heard of it until recently.
  i've heard of that.. I just saw that my installation of beryl on UBUNTU had a "compiz" section in it.. so i thought it was the right one to go with :P
[05:35] <stdin> nothing, it's just more "stable". ie, unchanging
[05:35] <youbuntu> !session
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <K-Ryan> Ah
[05:36] <pete> !upgrade
[05:36] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:36] <stdin> beryl and compiz were once the same package, then split and are now merging again
[05:36] <stdin> it's on open-source soap opera
[05:37] <dr_willis> like bacteria do. :) or is that Amoebas?
[05:37] <K-Ryan> Neither merge back together
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> THAT'S MY CUBE!!! *slap* :)
[05:37] <K-Ryan> Although they do divide
[05:39] <bader_> Should I set up XGL using "Method A", which will "start Xgl as an option at the login screen"?
[05:39] <K-Ryan> Probably
[05:39] <bader_> or Method C: Make Xgl Your Standard Display Server for Kubuntu Users?
[05:40] <athony> how do i know what version of ubuntu i'm running?
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> bader_: i wouldn't reccomend C simply because, what if it crashes?
[05:40] <stdin> !version | athony
[05:40] <athony> ah ok
[05:40] <ubotu> athony: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[05:40] <bader_> hitmanWilly  --> ty, wise man :P
[05:40] <stdin> athony: read what ubotu said
[05:40] <bader_> I'll go with A~
[05:42] <bader_> lol... I'm asked to do "gksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh".. but I get command not found ..
[05:42] <athony> ubotu:
[05:42] <athony> error: Failed dependencies:
[05:42] <athony>         /bin/sh is needed by wine-0.9.2-1fc4winehq.i686
[05:42] <draik> I'm feeling Kubuntu Edgy a bit sluggish. What do you all recommend to clean out some things?
[05:42] <athony> arrg!
[05:42] <athony> ubotu: not working
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not working - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <K-Ryan> athony, ubotu is an information bot
[05:42] <draik> Anything similar/equivalent to defrag, crap cleaner, etc?
[05:43] <K-Ryan> Not an actual person =P
[05:43] <athony> k
[05:43] <stdin> bader_: replace "gksudo gedit" with "kdesu kate"
[05:43] <bader_> arigato gusaimas!
[05:43] <athony> ok it doesn't work in root mode
[05:43] <matt__> Hi, I noticed that a lot of people (myself included) did not realise that ubotu is not a person
[05:44] <K-Ryan> !ubotu
[05:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:44] <athony> matt: :)
[05:44] <stdin> draik: there is no need to "drfrag" on ext3
[05:44] <matt__> maybe the name of ubotu should be changed?
[05:44] <stdin> why?
[05:44] <K-Ryan> "uBOTu" ?
[05:44] <Lectus> what about cleaning temp files, etc? like a crap cleaner for linux?
[05:44] <draik> stdin: Right. I remember that. But I mean something to the effect of making Kubuntu run smoother. Everything seems sluggish
[05:45] <K-Ryan> Isn't there a command to remove packages that aren't required?
[05:45] <stdin> sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[05:45] <dr_willis> Lectus,   scripts in rc.local do wonders. :)
[05:45] <K-Ryan> Yeah, that
[05:45] <K-Ryan> You can try that Lectus
[05:45] <dr_willis> not sure if ubuntu defaults to cleaning out /tmp on a boot or not.
[05:45] <K-Ryan> But that's more of a space saver
[05:45] <K-Ryan> Not so much as a speed improvement.
[05:45] <raylu> isn't the point or removing packages that aren't required saving space?
[05:46] <stdin> dr_willis: I just mount a tempfs on /tmp anyway
[05:46] <K-Ryan> Well he's looking to get rid of temporary files.
[05:46] <K-Ryan> Same deal
[05:46] <raylu> packages that are installed but not running won't make anything but menus load faster
[05:46] <bader_> hmm i created the file stdin, but im not sure what to put in it..
[05:46] <dr_willis> windows has people trained where they think they need 'fancy' tools to make up for Defiencies in the os. :)
[05:46] <draik> stdin: WHOA! 27MB freed
[05:46] <bader_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl gives options for ATI + intel
[05:46] <raylu> dr_willis, windows has people trained where they think they need a gui :P
[05:46] <draik> I didn't think I had that much crud
[05:46] <bader_> but not ATI +AMD
[05:46] <K-Ryan> Uhhh
[05:46] <K-Ryan> 281MB will be freed...
[05:46] <raylu> if you want to get rid of unneccesary packages, you could install the server version :D
[05:46] <bader_> should i not be worring about this?
[05:47] <dr_willis> raylu,  blasphmy!
[05:47] <dr_willis> L(
[05:47] <stdin> bader_: follow the "ATI and Intel (using KDE)" part
[05:47] <j1tters> has anyone successfully gotten dual head to work with a matrox g550?
[05:47] <stdin> bader_: the + means "and/or" as intel do a graphics chip
[05:47] <dr_willis> ive seen people try the 'install server route' and they always seem to have other issues.. (not sure if fiesty fixed any of those issues or not) :)
[05:48] <bader_> thanks
[05:48] <ubuntu> ok i get a freeze error at my grub loading screen.... I have re-installed grub and it didnt fix it. Does anyone have any suggestions
[05:48] <kalorin`> j1tter I use dual head on all my machines
[05:48] <kalorin`> I have an x700 and a quadra 440
[05:48] <bader_> and i just paste thier snipplet? no need to add anything?
[05:48] <kalorin`> no matrox
[05:48] <kalorin`> sorry
[05:48] <ubuntu> no i dont get an error sorry it just freezes
[05:48] <j1tters> doesnt look that hard but this card is just killing me
[05:48] <K-Ryan> ubuntu grub needs to be at the beginning of the HDD
[05:48] <j1tters> mergedfb didnt work. just made the second monitor black.
[05:48] <stdin> !dualhead
[05:48] <K-Ryan> On your boot drive, that's how it works for me.
[05:48] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[05:49] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  you are seeing the text based menu? or just some gfx ?
[05:49] <K-Ryan> You can always try that in case you don't have it set that way.
[05:49] <kalorin`> I ended up using the downloadable drivers from ati and nvidia respectively
[05:49] <j1tters> yeh been there. guess i'll try xinerama
[05:49] <kalorin`> seem to work pretty well. The only tricky part is building the kernel modules
[05:49] <ubuntu> dr_willis: i dont get a menu, I cant get past grub loading stage 1.5
[05:49] <bader_> Now we'll add an option to the gnome login manager so that we can choose to log into our new Xgl-gnome session. Create an Xsession file like so:
[05:49] <bader_> gksudo gedit /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[05:49] <bader_> thats not for me right?
[05:49] <bader_> << KDE?
[05:49] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  ahh, thats a clue at least. :)
[05:50] <kalorin`> bader_:  likely not
[05:50] <ubuntu> dr_willis: tried to reinstall grub but it didnt help
[05:50] <dr_willis> thats windows thinking. :) im guessing grub is looking for the stage2 files and not finding them on the proper hd. or its looking on the wrong place.
[05:50] <BWolf_> i want to reformat and start over with kubuntu. what fiel do i need?
[05:50] <youbuntu> anyone seen the problem - start up kubuntu without touching any key and resolution goes to 640*800 (have to reset x sever to get normal res)
[05:50] <stdin> bader_: replace "gksudo gedit" with "kdesu kate"
[05:51] <ubuntu> dr_willis: any suggestions?
[05:51] <K-Ryan> BWolf_ you don't need anything if I'm not mistaken.
[05:51] <athony> why do i get this
[05:51] <athony> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:51] <athony> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:51] <K-Ryan> Just reinstall with a Live CD
[05:51] <stdin> !aptfix
[05:51] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:51] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  well.. reading up on the grub docs and learning what all is in its config file and how it works.. is always a good idea.
[05:51] <stdin> !aptfix | athony
[05:51] <ubotu> athony: please see above
[05:51] <athony> ok
[05:51] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  also google for that specific issue where it cant get past stage 1.5
[05:52] <ubuntu> dr_willis: k ill look into it
[05:52] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  how many hd's you got?
[05:52] <ubuntu> jsut 1
[05:52] <dr_willis> Grub is one of those tools that is well worth learning all about.
[05:52] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  you got windows on that hd also?
[05:52] <BWolf_> or how can i delete gnome from and ubuntu and just keep kubuntu
[05:52] <ubuntu> dr_willis: yes i have windows and Kubuntu
[05:52] <athony> stdin: command not found. are u a bot too?
[05:52] <stdin> BWolf_: are you on either of edgy or feisty?
[05:53] <BWolf_> feisty
[05:53] <stdin> athony: I'm not a bot :p
[05:53] <athony> k
[05:53] <stdin> athony: read what ubuntu said...
[05:53] <stdin> !aptfix
[05:53] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:53] <athony> root@lands007:/home/lands/Desktop# !aptfix
[05:53] <athony> aptfix
[05:53] <athony> -su: aptfix: command not found
[05:53] <athony> root@lands007:/home/lands/Desktop#
[05:53] <stdin> BWolf_: you can try "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop"
[05:54] <athony> stn : read above
[05:54] <stdin> athony: like I said, read what the bot said
[05:54] <athony> *stdin
[05:54] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  I always keep liniux on its own seperate hd. :) but thats not always doable heh. How did you install ubuntu the first time? live cd? alternative cd?
[05:54] <Keen> quick simple question, it says command not found, when i type this: "sudo ./VirtualBox_1.3.8_Linux_x86a.run install /opt/innotek/VirtualBox"
[05:54] <BWolf_> it says ubuntu-desktop not installed, so not removed
[05:54] <Keen> even if its there
[05:54] <Keen> when i type ls
[05:54] <dr_willis> Keen,  is it 'executable' ?
[05:54] <stdin> athony: when someone in there starts a message with ! it's a command for the bot (ubotu) to say somthing
[05:55] <Keen> im not sure
[05:55] <dr_willis> chmod +x whatever.run
[05:55] <Keen> im just following instructions from the website
[05:55] <dr_willis>  that means most likely that NO its not. :)
[05:55] <ubuntu> dr_willis: i used live cd, I have not had any problems until i tried to install QEMU
[05:55] <stdin> BWolf_: then try "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[05:55] <dr_willis> they may of missed a step.
[05:55] <bader_> woo0hooo done.. So how do i know if XGL is working, after I've logged in as an XGL session?
[05:55] <Keen> well it does say its binary when i try to open it
[05:55] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  you installed qemu and it messed with grub?
[05:55] <Keen> if that means anything
[05:55] <dr_willis> Keen,  that means nothing. :)
[05:55] <Keen> =P
[05:55] <ubuntu> dr_willis: yes it was the last thing i did. I was following a how-to guide
[05:55] <dr_willis> Keen,  chmod +x it .. that makes it an executable command
[05:55] <BWolf_> 0 upgraded 0 installed 0 to remove 0 to upgrade
[05:55] <Keen> ok
[05:56] <Keen> i'll try that =)
[05:56] <stdin> bader_: if you login to an xgl session, and you see graphics, then it's working
[05:56] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  you isntalled some OS under qemu?
[05:56] <ubuntu> dr_willis: no never got that far
[05:56] <adam_> i'm having a bizarre issue: i'm using a sblive value, with the wave surround channel turned up so i can get surround sound. if i mute the master channel, only the front speakers go off. the rears keep playing
[05:56] <stdin> BWolf_: then gnome packages have already been removed
[05:56] <athony> thanks bot
[05:56] <bader_> stdin : see graphics as in a normal desktop right ?  not effects..
[05:56] <stdin> BWolf_: if not, then you'll have to do it the "manual" way
[05:56] <BWolf_> but i can still use it as a way to log in
[05:56] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  check your grubs menu.lst file i guess and see what it looks like. also check for any backup copies of it.
[05:56] <BWolf_> whats the manual way
[05:56] <stdin> bader_: yeah
[05:56] <Keen> yay thanks
[05:57] <Keen> aww it doesnt support amd64 D=
[05:57] <bader_> stdin: so now i just install beryl?
[05:57] <stdin> BWolf_: run "sudo apt-get remove [list of packages] "
[05:57] <bader_> stdin: do i need to be logged into the xgl session to install it?
[05:57] <K-Ryan> beryl-kubuntu and emerald-themes
[05:57] <K-Ryan> No you don't
[05:57] <ubuntu> dr_willis: ok. is there a specific way it should look?
[05:57] <stdin> bader_: no, just to run it
[05:57] <K-Ryan> To run it though, you will
[05:57] <BWolf_> same comes up stdin
[05:57] <ubuntu> dr_willis: also where do i find it
[05:58] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  depends on your system. I NOTICE looking at mine that its using the hard drive 'UUID' type labels for selecting what partions are what.. thats possibly messed up.
[05:58] <stdin> !purekde | BWolf_
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purekde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <dr_willis>  - /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:58] <stdin> arrg
[05:58] <stdin> BWolf_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[05:58] <BWolf_> event not found
[05:59] <BWolf_> alright stdin well see what that does
[06:00] <stdin> BWolf_: it'll just uninstall all the default gnome stuff
[06:01] <BWolf_> so what will thaty leave me with
[06:01] <K-Ryan> Woo, solved my problem on my own ;)
[06:01] <stdin> BWolf_: KDE
[06:02] <makuseru> anyone know whats up with www.kde-look.org ?
[06:02] <stdin> BWolf_: just make sure the packages "ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop" are installed after
[06:02] <matt__> makuseru the website is down
[06:02] <BWolf_> so let me get this straight kde and gnome are like two different "OS" that only certain programs can run in each? sorry newbie question
[06:02] <stdin> no
[06:02] <stdin> you can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa
[06:03] <BWolf_> kde and gnome are just different GUI for ubuntu
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> you just need the gtk/qt libs for them
[06:03] <stdin> sort of, yeah
[06:03] <fignew> BWolf_: all applications can run under both.
[06:03] <stdin> ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu is (ubuntu - gnome) + kde
[06:03] <BWolf_> when i installed kde i had come programs from gnome that wouldnt start in kde
[06:03] <fignew> though some are more optimized for the one or the other
[06:04] <makuseru> matt_: really? didnt notice
[06:04] <fignew> BWolf_: what application?
[06:04] <david2_> You can start a nfs client from the kubuntu cd right?
[06:04] <BWolf_> xchat would just close in kde
[06:05] <stdin> I've use x-chat in kde before
[06:05] <stdin> tho i prefer konversation
[06:05] <matt__> makuseru, I noticed that they were just talking about kde-apps on #kde
[06:05] <makuseru> i was being scarcastic
[06:06] <BWolf_> i wish i could just start all over with a fresh copy of kubuntu but it took forever to configure my wireless card
[06:07] <fignew> BWolf_: try running xchat from the terminal
[06:07] <fignew> and see if it says anything
[06:08] <K-Ryan> Hey guys I'm having a Konsole problem
[06:08] <K-Ryan> I just got this roguelike game setup, well i finally figured out how to get it started
[06:08] <dr_willis> Hmm under fiesty - my wireless card was a breeze. :)
[06:09] <dr_willis> which amazed me
[06:09] <K-Ryan> And everytime I get to the second level it freezes, there are plenty of screen changes before it
[06:09] <arkanabar> How do I add a printer shared from a windows XP computer?
[06:09] <K-Ryan> Any ideas on what it might be?
[06:09] <BWolf_> dr_willis my wireless card was a PAIN
[06:09] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: linux wireless really got a push after people figured out wireless cracking with nix software was SUPER easy.
[06:09] <unix_infidel> hence the reasno for more and more drivers and driver wrappers being developed.
[06:09] <dr_willis> arkanabar,  the  controlcenter --> perpherals -> printer  should walk you through it.
[06:09] <stdin> arkanabar: use System Settings -> Printers
[06:10] <BWolf_> brb
[06:10] <dr_willis> arkanabar,  but to be honest. :) i find the gnome cups manager interface easier to use then kde's heh heh
[06:10] <stdin> eww, gnome
[06:10] <raylu> kubuntu uses cups too
[06:11] <K-Ryan> Never mind, problem solved again =)
[06:11] <bader_> hey umm.. im in an XGL session
[06:11] <K-Ryan> What's wrong?
[06:11] <bader_> and I've got emerald and beryl installed
[06:12] <fignew_> K-Ryan: you could try a different terminal emulator, but beyond that, it seems like a bug in the game
[06:12] <dr_willis> somthing just seems odd with how complex kde's printer config interface is.
[06:12] <bader_> but for some reason i cant get to beryl from the start menu
[06:12] <K-Ryan> fignew, it was something wrong with the music. Go figure
[06:12] <bader_> oh wait.. lol
[06:12] <stdin> heh, "start menu"
[06:12] <dr_willis> and it always wants to scan the 127.0.0.0 network for networked printers. :) oddly
[06:12] <fignew_> bader_: how long has it been installed?
[06:12] <K-Ryan> It doesn't play so I wouldn't of expected that, but that's probably why it was conflicting.
[06:12] <bader_> yes im a windows noob.
[06:12] <bader_> lol I started beryl settings manager..
[06:12] <stdin> bader_: just call it the KMenu :)
[06:12] <bader_> How do i actibate it? :P
[06:13] <fignew_> K-Ryan: you can run it artsdsp gamename
[06:13] <bader_> lol thanks Stdin
[06:13] <fignew_> as a command :)
[06:13] <K-Ryan> What?
[06:13] <fignew_> from the terminal
[06:13] <K-Ryan> I'll try that after I die
[06:13] <K-Ryan> =P
[06:13] <fignew_> no artsd?
[06:13] <K-Ryan> Well I got the game to work
[06:14] <stdin> bader_: right click the beryl icon, select Window manager -> beryl
[06:14] <K-Ryan> So it's not a priority, but I'll try it
[06:14] <fignew_> so sound is working?
[06:14] <arkanabar> ok, used system settings - printers - scan, got this error:  "Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED"
[06:14] <K-Ryan> Well that's the thing
[06:14] <bader_> It doesnt pop up in my task bar..
[06:14] <K-Ryan> The sounds  work
[06:14] <K-Ryan> The background music doesn't
[06:14] <Zeelot> hi guys could you help me with this, I get this error any time I try to compile something from source, no matter what it is -> error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[06:14] <bader_> :P i dont get a minimized icon..
[06:14] <fignew_> K-Ryan: nevermind then ;)
[06:14] <K-Ryan> =P
[06:15] <dr_willis> install the C compiler packages. :)
[06:15] <fignew_> could be that the BG music is MIDI
[06:15] <dr_willis> !info build-essential
[06:15] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:15] <dr_willis> !build-essential
[06:15] <fignew_> and there's no midi installed... that's only a misguided theory though ;)
[06:15] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:15] <Zeelot> thanks
[06:15] <bader_> hmm
[06:16] <K-Ryan> No, that makes perfect sense actually.
[06:16] <K-Ryan> This is a roguelike version of Doom, with the original music
[06:16] <K-Ryan> So how would I go about getting MIDI files to work?
[06:16] <dr_willis> thers midi players ive seen/used ages ago. :)
[06:16] <stdin> !midi
[06:17] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[06:17] <fignew_> arkanabar: you get it yet?
[06:17] <bader_> Don't I need beryl-manager?
[06:18] <athony> help running wine -
[06:18] <athony> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[06:18] <athony> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[06:18] <bader_> I have beryl-kubuntu installed, but beryl-manager isnt.
[06:18] <stdin> bader_: that should be installed, hmm, try installing it then
[06:18] <bader_> lol roger.
[06:18] <dr_willis> athony,  what user ran it?
[06:18] <athony> root
[06:18] <raylu> [23:14:22]  <arkanabar> ok, used system settings - printers - scan, got this error:  "Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED"
[06:18] <K-Ryan> Well nobody "needs" Beryl, but it's just so incredible.
[06:18] <athony> @dr_willis
[06:18] <dr_willis> athony,  did you use sudo, gksu, or the kde equilivnet?
[06:18] <arkanabar> fignew, like raylu said.
[06:19] <K-Ryan> I sat there moving the windows around for a solid 2 straight minutes when I first got it.
[06:19] <athony> dr_willis: will get back
[06:19] <raylu> i moved them around and immediatly looked for a way to turn that floppy window crap off
[06:19] <bader_> what the..
[06:19] <brian_> ough oh guys now i have a problem
[06:19] <dr_willis> raylu,  did ya enable the flaming 'window closing' feature?
[06:19] <bader_> the manager loads for about 20 seconds, then disappears still!
[06:19] <raylu> arkanabar, is connecting the printer to the linux box an option? that's usually easier to set up (I think)
[06:19] <raylu> yeah...but those got distracting after a while. it was cool at first, though
[06:20] <raylu> bader_, it tends to do that. i just keep going at it :P
[06:20] <bader_> LOL seriously?
[06:20] <raylu> =\ i hear it actually works better under gnome
[06:20] <bader_> omg it worked!
[06:20] <brian_> i uninstalled ubuntu/gnome now my wireless wont work :(
[06:20] <bader_> ya i think it does.. cuz this doesnt happen there
[06:20] <raylu> brian_, is your network WEP secured?
[06:20] <athony> dr_willis: it looks ok now. ty
[06:20] <stdin> bader_: try it again, sometimes it doesn't start for me
[06:20] <brian_> yes it is
[06:20] <arkanabar> raylu, I'm sure it is, but my wife would not appreciate it.  Especially since I'm shut down a lot more often than she is.
[06:20] <Feisty_jeff> hey, I have a drive mounted, but it's not showing anything in it
[06:20] <Feisty_jeff> and suggestions?
[06:21] <raylu> brian_, installing kwifimanager may help. try left-clicking on the network name (if any) in knetworkmanager
[06:21] <Hirvinen> raylu, brian_: WEP is NOT secure!
[06:21] <raylu> WEP is secure enough for most people...
[06:21] <stdin> more than an open network anyway
[06:21] <arkanabar> !wep
[06:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:21] <K-Ryan> I installed freepats, but the game still froze when it tried to play the MIDI music
[06:21] <fignew_> true
[06:21] <bader_> oksy
[06:21] <Rictoo> how do I change an env variable again?
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> plus, mac filtering is an outstanding way to deter the occasional wardriver
[06:22] <Rictoo> I keep forgetting
[06:22] <bader_> okay* its open. and i see the icon.. but its still not actually doing any effects.
[06:22] <bader_> niether can i select themes via the Emerald themer
[06:22] <stdin> Rictoo: variable=value
[06:22] <stdin> Rictoo: or export variable=valie
[06:22] <Hirvinen> stdin, raylu: I refuse to call anything that only protects against accidental spying security.
[06:22] <Feisty_jeff> ?
[06:22] <brian_> i have knetworkmanager now
[06:22] <brian_> it gets to 57% activation stage: IP configuration started and just hangs there
[06:22] <raylu> bader_, select window manager
[06:22] <bader_> I did, its on Beryl
[06:23] <Rictoo> thanks, stdin
[06:23] <brian_> after that just asks for the key again
[06:23] <fignew_> brian_: you have the right key?
[06:23] <raylu> brian_, try kwifimanager or those docs
[06:23] <brian_> yes i do
[06:23] <raylu> i had this problem too...don't remember what i did to fix it
[06:23] <brian_> where can i get kwifimanager
[06:23] <bader_> :')
[06:23] <bader_> :'(
[06:23] <raylu> apt/adept
[06:23] <Ich> i am trying to set a static IP address with knetworkmanager, but every time i change it, it reverts to .124
[06:24] <Ich> my lan is otherwise functional
[06:24] <Hirvinen> A wireless connection is secure only if it uses WPA or VPN.
[06:24] <raylu> oh, that's right. brian_, I used manual configuaration and specified the SSID and key there
[06:25] <brian_> how do i know if its ASCII or hex?
[06:25] <bader_> Its not working! :'(
[06:25] <stdin> Hirvinen: WPA isn't to difficult to crack
[06:25] <stdin> brian_: it's probably hex
[06:26] <Feisty_jeff> anybody have some spare time?
[06:26] <stdin> bader_: try switching back to kwin, close beryl-manager, and open it again in konsole, it will print some info
[06:26] <fignew_> Lol, we're all in IRC ;)
[06:26] <Feisty_jeff> touche
[06:26] <Ich> fignew_: it's irc
[06:26] <bader_> whats Kwin?
[06:26] <bader_> :P
[06:26] <Ich> Feisty_jeff*, not fignew_
[06:26] <Hirvinen> stdin: WPA-PSK can be cracked in a short time?
[06:26] <stdin> bader_: the KDE Window Manager
[06:26] <bader_> and how do i  open it in konsole?
[06:26] <Rictoo> stdin, did you try to right click the beryl icon and choose "Change window manager>Beryl"
[06:26] <stdin> Hirvinen: as long as you get enough packets
[06:27] <Rictoo> ?
[06:27] <stdin> Rictoo: ask bader_
[06:27] <bader_> Yes, I did. No good.
[06:27] <Feisty_jeff> ok, so my problem is this -  I have a SATA drive mounted... it shows up as /media/sdb1
[06:27] <Hirvinen> Hmm, now that you mention it, I might recall something about that.
[06:27] <Feisty_jeff> but it's not showing that there are any files
[06:27] <Feisty_jeff> I know that there are files in there though
[06:27] <Hirvinen> stdin: But WPA-PSK 2 is still unbroken?
[06:28] <stdin> not totally
[06:28] <stdin> it's not impossible
[06:28] <stdin> more difficult, yes, impossible, no
[06:28] <bader_> So how do i run the manager in konsole?
[06:28] <stdin> bader_: open konsole and type in: beryl-manager
[06:29] <Ich> where does kubuntu store network settings?
[06:29] <Hirvinen> stdin: How long does it approximately take on a modern computer?
[06:29] <stdin> Hirvinen: it depends on how many packets you get, that's how you can get the key
[06:30] <stdin> Hirvinen: but for psk 2, it's more complicated than that. so I don't know
[06:30] <Feisty_jeff> ook
[06:30] <stdin> but it can take a while
[06:30] <Feisty_jeff> maybe it would be better to come back another time?
[06:30] <bader_> No composite extension
[06:30] <bader_> beryl: No composite extension
[06:30] <stdin> ahh
[06:30] <bader_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[06:30] <bader_>   Major opcode:  148
[06:30] <bader_>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:30] <bader_>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:31] <bader_> Failed to open device
[06:31] <bader_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[06:31] <bader_>   Major opcode:  148
[06:31] <bader_>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:31] <bader_>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:31] <bader_> Failed to open device
[06:31] <fignew_> Feisty_jeff: What's the Filesystem?
[06:31] <stdin> bader_: ignore the "X Error" parts
[06:31] <Feisty_jeff> fignew_: ntfs, sadly
[06:31] <fernando> que tal pete
[06:31] <bader_> hmm
[06:31] <stdin> bader_: open up your xorg.conf again (kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[06:31] <bader_> ahuh?
[06:31] <Feisty_jeff> fignew_: I'm trying to move my windows files over and totally ditch microsod entirely
[06:32] <pete> how do i know if my root filesystem is on an md array??
[06:32] <fignew_> Feisty_jeff: /msg me what the command mount says
[06:32] <stdin> bader_: find the "Extensions" secton
[06:32] <pete> tryin to install feisty right now and i dont want to mess it up
[06:32] <bader_> Section "Extensions"
[06:32] <bader_> 	Option	    "Composite" "Disable"
[06:32] <bader_> EndSection
[06:32] <bader_> its what i had put in earlier.
[06:32] <stdin> ubotu: and change it to have: Option "Composite" "true"
[06:33] <stdin> bader_: some cards need "Disable" some need "true"
[06:33] <bader_> aaah
[06:33] <stdin> bader_: blame ATI :p
[06:33] <fignew> huh? meh! :P
[06:33] <bader_> lol!
[06:34] <bader_> k ill log into Xgl again
[06:35] <bader_> baaah
[06:36] <bader_> still no dice, it seems
[06:36] <stdin> see what it says in konsole again, and post it to pastebin this time
[06:36] <stdin> !pastebin
[06:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:37] <stdin> or use http://stdin.pastebin.us/ :)
[06:37] <Rictoo> !ubuntu
[06:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:38] <Rictoo> !subuntu
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about subuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <bader_> im getting a bunch of "can't execute beryl-xgl: Success"
[06:38] <stdin> post it to pastebin for me
[06:38] <brian_> kwifimanager does nothing to help me
[06:38] <brian_> manual config doesnt either
[06:38] <robotgeek> brian_: use knetworkmanager instead
[06:39] <unix_infidel> anyone here running feisty on a mac?
[06:39] <brian_> knetworkmanager wont connect either
[06:39] <brian_> it gets to 57% then stops
[06:39] <robotgeek> unix_infidel: i was, then i crashed my hdd :)
[06:39] <raylu> brian_, have you specified your wep key in kwifimanage ror knm's manual config?
[06:40] <brian_> ?
[06:40] <raylu> *or
[06:40] <bader_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21518/  (this is in the KDE rather than xgl env.)
[06:40] <brian_> kwifimanage wont let me do nething
[06:40] <raylu> use kwifimanager's config thingy
[06:40] <raylu> specify your SSID and key
[06:40] <MarcC_> can anybody tell me why kded is using 90% CPU?
[06:40] <brian_> just shows availible connections and what networks it sees
[06:41] <raylu> brian_, Settings > Configuration editor
[06:41] <stdin> bader_: hmm, doing my research here, it seems you need to add another package source and edit a file to get the xgl version of beryl
[06:41] <brian_> settings?
[06:42] <raylu> brian_, the menu at the top of kwm
[06:42] <fignew> MarcC_: who knows :P
[06:42] <bader_> hmmm .. thanks alot stdin.. ill keep working on it tomorrow.   thanks alot guys.. this community is unbelievable.
[06:42] <fignew> MarcC_: actually, it's looking for updates in some folder
[06:42] <MarcC_> is it OK to sigterm kded?
[06:42] <fignew> MarcC_: Amarok is usu. the culprit
[06:42] <stdin> bader_ I got a link for you to bookmark and look at
[06:42] <bader_> sweet!
[06:43] <stdin> bader_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL
[06:43] <stdin> bader_: that should help you out
[06:43] <MarcC_> fignew: thanks, but Amarok isn't running at the moment
[06:43] <bader_> thanks mate
[06:43] <bader_> take care!
[06:43] <bader_> oooh quick Q.
[06:43] <fignew> MarcC_: konq filebrowser then
[06:43] <brian_> KWM doesnt find a place for wep key
[06:43] <fignew> it's something checking if files are changing
[06:43] <bader_> how do i get window as my default (or first on my bootloader's list) rather than linux?
[06:44] <fignew> bader_: why would you want that?
[06:44] <stdin> bader_: you need to edit a file (/boot/grub/menu.lst) and change the "default 0" to the number for windows
[06:44] <shrotacular> i need help ! when i open adept installer it says: the apt database couldnot be opened. what should i do ?
[06:45] <stdin> bader_: eg, if windows is the 3rd option, then change it to read "default 2"
[06:45] <bader_> fignew: cuz my gaming needs are on windows :P
[06:45] <stdin> !aptfix | shrotacular
[06:45] <ubotu> shrotacular: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:47] <brian_> KWM isnt going nething
[06:47] <arkanabar> wheeee!!!  I was able to set up my printer in GNOME.
[06:48] <MrBougo> congratz!
[06:49] <bader_> how come i cant edit the menu.lst file?
[06:50] <stdin> use kdesu
[06:50] <MrBougo> does the city you choose for the timezone have any influence to the locale stuff?
[06:50] <stdin> bader_: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:50] <stdin> MrBougo: no, not really
[06:50] <MrBougo> ok :)
[06:51] <MrBougo> oh maybe with the default reps server, right?
[06:51] <stdin> MrBougo: we know somepeople may live in one place and want the language to be different :)
[06:51] <bader_> thanks alot man! i love you!!
[06:51] <MrBougo> yup :)
[06:51] <bader_> good night ppl
[06:51] <MrBougo> bye!
[06:51] <MrBougo> stdin, does every rep from every country have the same packages in all languages?
[06:52] <stdin> MrBougo: yes
[06:52] <MrBougo> i mean, is it "safe" for me to connect my rep
[06:52] <MrBougo> oh ok :)
[06:52] <brian_> what am i supposed to do in KWM?
[06:52] <MrBougo> thank you
[06:52] <MrBougo> that was actually a stupid question
[06:52] <MrBougo> brb
[06:52] <stdin> MrBougo: they all just sync with the main ubuntu repos
[06:54] <youbuntu> !antivirus
[06:54] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[06:55] <youbuntu> !linuxvirus
[06:55] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:59] <K-Ryan> Anyone have the cmatrix package?
[07:00] <K-Ryan> Fun stuff
[07:00] <Boje> moin
[07:00] <MrBougo> brb again :p
[07:00] <somerandomstuff> heh, "somerandomnick" is owned by someone else
[07:01] <thirdeye> hi , am still getting the APT error when i start Adept Installer
[07:01] <K-Ryan> !aptfix | thirdeye
[07:01] <ubotu> thirdeye: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:01] <K-Ryan> That'll do it
[07:01] <thirdeye> i tried it
[07:01] <K-Ryan> You're sure you typed it in exactly like that?
[07:02] <K-Ryan> I'm not calling you clumsy or anything, I just know that I've done it once or twice...
[07:02] <thirdeye> ok ill try again, it should fix it without restarting , right ?
[07:02] <K-Ryan> Correct
[07:02] <K-Ryan> You can actually copy and paste it
[07:02] <thirdeye> ok
[07:03] <K-Ryan> Any luck?
[07:03] <thirdeye> copying
[07:03] <K-Ryan> Ah
[07:03] <thirdeye> nuthing happened
[07:03] <thirdeye> should i run adept ?
[07:03] <K-Ryan> Yes =P
[07:03] <thirdeye> same error
[07:04] <K-Ryan> Oh there's an error, it isn't just "not starting"
[07:04] <K-Ryan> What's the error say?
[07:04] <K-Ryan> The KDE crash thing pop up?
[07:04] <stdin> try "sudo apt-get update" and see if you see the error there
[07:04] <thirdeye> the APT database could not open ! this may be caused
[07:05] <K-Ryan> Try stdin's suggestion.
[07:05] <thirdeye> E: Type 'ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ubuntuftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ubuntu' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:05] <K-Ryan> Well there's the problem
[07:05] <K-Ryan> Well, "a" problem
[07:05] <stdin> you need to fix your sources.list
[07:05] <thirdeye> :x
[07:05] <thirdeye> how , i just installed kubuntu
[07:05] <K-Ryan> I'll leave it to you stdin, I don't want to mess it up more =)
[07:06] <thirdeye> i know nuthing
[07:06] <K-Ryan> Chances are that's why it's like that =P
[07:06] <thirdeye> i know :(
[07:06] <K-Ryan> It's okay, we all had to start somewhere
[07:06] <stdin> thirdeye: you didn't use automatix or easyubuntu did you ?
[07:06] <thirdeye> no
[07:06] <stdin> good, makes it easier :p
[07:06] <thirdeye> i think i tried to install vlc media player
[07:06] <stdin> thirdeye: why did you add that source then?
[07:07] <stdin> !info vlc
[07:07] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[07:07] <thirdeye> to install it
[07:07] <stdin> it's in the ubuntu repositories
[07:07] <thirdeye> yes
[07:07] <franz_> [newbie question] : how do i update my subversion to 1.4? ..doing "apt-get install subversion" installed 1.3.2 :)
[07:07] <K-Ryan> So you wouldn't need to add a source.
[07:07] <thirdeye> am sorry i didnt mean to :(
[07:08] <K-Ryan> Hey, it's no big deal, we're here to help.
[07:08] <thirdeye> how can i fix it ?
[07:08] <stdin> franz_: you can't yet, unless you try to compile it or find a debian package (tho that can be dangerous)
[07:08] <K-Ryan> Alright let's see
[07:08] <K-Ryan> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:08] <stdin> thirdeye: open the sources file "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:09] <stdin> thirdeye: then remove that line
[07:09] <K-Ryan> err, kdesu
[07:09] <stdin> K-Ryan: no, not sudo :p
[07:09] <franz_> stdin, what would be dangerous? compiling or finding a debian package, or both? :)
[07:09] <stdin> don't make me call the bot :p
[07:09] <K-Ryan> =(
[07:09] <K-Ryan> I really don't know the difference....
[07:09] <stdin> franz_: compiling isn't that dangerous, but installing an unofficial package can be
[07:09] <K-Ryan> It's more of a "use this for this, and that for that" with no meaning behind it, to me anyway.
[07:09] <stdin> !kdesu | K-Ryan
[07:09] <ubotu> K-Ryan: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[07:10] <K-Ryan> Oh
[07:10] <K-Ryan> Thanks =)
[07:10] <K-Ryan> I hope thirdeye got it right.
[07:10] <stdin> gotta love those "all knowing infobots" :)
[07:10] <franz_> stdin, what if it's the official subversion 1.4 package ( http://packages.debian.org/subversion ) ? :)
[07:10] <eightyfiveonline> alright its bwolf im back
[07:10] <stdin> franz_: that's debian, not ubuntu
[07:10] <eightyfiveonline> for some reason chat wont let me use the same nick twice if i get kicked
[07:11] <K-Ryan> eightyfiveonline Are you kicked or are you losing connection?
[07:11] <K-Ryan> Because if it's an administrative kick, that might be why.
[07:11] <rawker> solid! magenge
[07:11] <stdin> franz_: feisty has the version you want tho
[07:11] <franz_> stdin: having problems upgrading to feisty :(
[07:12] <rawker> How art thou all?
[07:12] <franz_> stdin, do you know how to fix this ~> http://rafb.net/p/hInEIF48.html ? :)
[07:12] <franz_> i see it in the forums but i see no actual fix
[07:12] <eightyfiveonline> losing connection from trying to figure out my wifi connection
[07:12] <franz_> or workaround :)
[07:12] <thirdeye> hello, am back, my system just restarted by it self, omg this is not going well
[07:12] <stdin> franz_: it's to do with the server, only fix is to either wait, or use a different server
[07:12] <K-Ryan> Are the other names still in the chat?
[07:13] <eightyfiveonline> yah
[07:13] <K-Ryan> thirdeye, what was the last thing you did before it restarted?
[07:13] <franz_> stdin, by server, do you mean ubuntu's repo server?
[07:13] <K-Ryan> That's strange, you can try to have an op disconnect them.
[07:13] <stdin> franz_: yeah, tho it isn't actually run by ubuntu
[07:13] <thirdeye> i typed that line in konsole
[07:13] <K-Ryan> sudo or kdesu?
[07:13] <thirdeye> kdesu
[07:13] <K-Ryan> Okay then it's not my fault =)
[07:14] <K-Ryan> you typed it in without caps right?
[07:14] <thirdeye> i dont remember
[07:14] <thirdeye> maybe
[07:14] <K-Ryan> kdesu kate /etc/apt/source.list
[07:14] <K-Ryan> exactly like that
[07:14] <franz_> stdin, hmmm..so what's the best approach to get subversion 1.4.2 in my kubuntu? upgrade to fiesty? compile? ..or ? :)
[07:15] <K-Ryan> A window should pop up.
[07:15] <stdin> franz_: upgrade is the best and reccommended way
[07:15] <K-Ryan> franz_ unless you have reason not to, upgrade.
[07:15] <eightyfiveonline> there it goes, my old nick hah
[07:15] <Ober0ne> 
[07:15] <K-Ryan> There you go
[07:15] <stdin> franz_: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a
[07:16] <franz_> K-Ryan, i want to...it's just that i can't find a workaround to that "Failed to fetch..." problem :)
[07:16] <Ober0ne> fignew?
[07:16] <arkanabar> thirdeye ... if you can handle a no-mouse, keyboard only text editor, you can try sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list
[07:16] <K-Ryan> Strange
[07:16] <K-Ryan> arkanabar, he's having trouble as it is =P
[07:17] <K-Ryan> Trying to keep it simple.
[07:17] <stdin> nano is quite simple :)
[07:17] <K-Ryan> thirdeye did you get that window to pop up? The sources.list?
[07:17] <franz_> stdin, i think i already tried that...but ok, i'll try it again :)
[07:17] <arkanabar> k-ryan, I know.  I have trouble with gksu and kdesu both, and I have to use nano for any root privileged text editing.
[07:18] <stdin> franz_: if that doesn't work, you can try the "Network upgrade for Ubuntu servers (recommended)" part
[07:18] <K-Ryan> ^X
[07:18] <arkanabar> nano is easier for me to deal with than vi
[07:18] <franz_> stdin, ok. thaks :)
[07:18] <K-Ryan> Yeah I just opened nano, I don't really get it
[07:19] <K-Ryan> Nor do I feel like experimenting with it considering I opened my sources.list....
[07:19] <K-Ryan> But I can see how it's well suited to those who prefer everything right there.
[07:19] <arkanabar> ^X means same as ctrl-X, brings up a quit dialog at the bottom of the buffer; ^G opens help.
[07:19] <K-Ryan> Oh, I didn't understand the ^
[07:19] <arkanabar> I only use it b/c neither kdesu nor gksu works for me.
[07:20] <arkanabar> I learned that way back on a DEC-10, writing JCL batch files
[07:20] <K-Ryan> Mmm
[07:20] <stdin> ^ has always meant Ctrl
[07:20] <stdin> even in windows :p
[07:20] <K-Ryan> <- Was mainly a Windows user
[07:20] <K-Ryan> ?
[07:21] <K-Ryan> I've never seen that used like that to be honest, ever.
[07:21] <arkanabar> well, in DOS, stdin....
[07:21] <brian_> okay no one breathe my wifi card is working it might cause it to crash
[07:21] <K-Ryan> But I never dealt with DOS either...
[07:21] <stdin> arkanabar: well win95 runs on DOS :p
[07:21] <K-Ryan> !winamp
[07:22] <arkanabar> er, so to speak, if you want to call that running.
[07:22] <ubotu> winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.
[07:22] <franz_> stdin, both network upgrade for ubuntu and kubuntu did not work..i got the same problem
[07:22] <MrBougo> arkanabar, some people told me that nano is sucky :p
[07:22] <arkanabar> !amarok | K-Ryan
[07:22] <ubotu> K-Ryan: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[07:22] <K-Ryan> I should of figured that "win"
[07:22] <K-Ryan> I have Amarok
[07:22] <MrBougo> but it's indeed easier
[07:22] <K-Ryan> I was just curious
[07:22] <stdin> franz_: what error is it?
[07:22] <franz_> stdin, this one ~> http://rafb.net/p/hInEIF48.html
[07:23] <K-Ryan> franz_ you can always order a cd
[07:23] <stdin> franz_: change your sources then
[07:23] <arkanabar> recently heard that Windows is a 32 bit shell for a 16 bit system written for an 8 bit processor on a 4 bit bus by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.
[07:23] <stdin> franz_: try just taking off the "ph." or change to another close mirror
[07:23] <K-Ryan> Heheh
[07:23] <franz_> K-Ryan, k, i'll try that as well :)
[07:24] <K-Ryan> I mean it won't show up for a little while, but it's always a fall back plan.
[07:24] <franz_> stdin: hhmm...k, i'll try changing my sources to something other than .ph :)
[07:24] <stdin> ^ about 3-6 weeks for a CD :P
[07:24] <K-Ryan> Yeah...
[07:24] <arkanabar> MrBougo, I would use gedit or kate if gksu or kdesu worked for me, but they never, ever do.  They bug up, and whatever file I was trying to modify instead winds up reverting to default.
[07:24] <stdin> but, hey, it's FREE :)
[07:24] <K-Ryan> I was just going to say
[07:24] <franz_> stdin, yep....but it's free :) hehe :D
[07:24] <K-Ryan> It's worth it because it's free.
[07:25] <K-Ryan> I mean come on, I'm in NY.
[07:25] <K-Ryan> They shipped me CDs from the Netherlands, how awesome is that?
[07:25] <stdin> still took 3 weeks here, and I'm in the UK
[07:26] <K-Ryan> Mine takes that extra 2 weeks =P
[07:26] <asad> hello
[07:26] <K-Ryan> Howdy
[07:26] <stdin> but I did order about a week after it was out, so there was a backlog
[07:26] <K-Ryan> Ah, still 3 weeks isn't bad.
[07:26] <asad> does anyone know if there are any known audio bugs with feisty ?
[07:26] <K-Ryan> Why? Having trouble?
[07:26] <asad> yeah
[07:26] <stdin> probally a few
[07:26] <franz_> stdin, btw, if i change my mirror to hk. , ...would i end up having packages in mandarin? :) hehehe :D
[07:26] <asad> I get scratching sounds
[07:26] <stdin> !sound
[07:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:27] <asad> I increasted the buffer and it improved a lot but if there is a lot of base I still get the problem
[07:27] <stdin> franz_: no, they all have the same exact packages
[07:27] <franz_> stdin, i see. thanks :)
[07:27] <asad> sweet
[07:27] <arkanabar> I just ordered feisty CDs ... last time I tried to upgrade, it broke nautilus.
[07:27] <K-Ryan> asad, I have the same problem
[07:27] <K-Ryan> I usually lowered the system volume and turned my speakers up a little bit more.
[07:27] <K-Ryan> That "helped"
[07:28] <stdin> nautilus is a gnome app, it was broke from the point it was coded :p
[07:28] <asad> yeah, turning up the volume definitly helps mask it
[07:28] <K-Ryan> No no
[07:29] <K-Ryan> Turn down the system volume
[07:29] <arkanabar> yah, but at that point, the install also resized the login screen and I lost my options menu for over a week and couldn't choose session type.
[07:29] <K-Ryan> Then turn up your speaker volume. Worked for me
[07:29] <asad> turn up the volume on the speakers :) yeah I understand
[07:29] <K-Ryan> Okay, it looked like you replied in a sarcastic manner. Never can tell on the internet...
[07:29] <asad> oh, no I wasn't being sarcastic
[07:29] <asad> appreciate the help
[07:30] <K-Ryan> I gathered that =P
[07:30] <K-Ryan> No problem
[07:30] <Zeelot> hello again! cant seem to play any media (mp3 or avi or anything) on amarok or kaffeine...any ideas? they work fine on XMMS and MPlayer
[07:30] <K-Ryan> !codecs
[07:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:30] <MrBougo> !ubotu
[07:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:30] <asad> vlc works great for me, as opposed to kaffeine
[07:30] <asad> maybe because vlc has a lot of codecs built in ?
[07:31] <stdin> yeah
[07:31] <K-Ryan> Kaffeine works alright for me, but I like Amarok.
[07:31] <K-Ryan> But with those you need the codec package.
[07:31] <intelikey> which is right ?    case blah blah ; -h,--help); ;; ;esac     or  case blah blah ; -h|--help); ;; ;esac       or will they both work ?
[07:31] <Zeelot> K-Ryan: i have all the codecs
[07:32] <Zeelot> the ones I need anyways
[07:32] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[07:32] <stdin> intelikey: the | one
[07:32] <K-Ryan> I dunno...
[07:32] <Zeelot> I get some error about no decoder found
[07:32] <stdin> intelikey: | = "or" in case
[07:33] <Zeelot> but...they are there as mplayer is using them
[07:33] <K-Ryan> Do you mind using XMMS and MPlayer?
[07:33] <asad> !input method
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about input method - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <asad> hmm
[07:33] <stdin> Zeelot: you have libxine-extracodecs ?
[07:33] <K-Ryan> He said he has the codecs he needs, so I assumed he did.
[07:33] <Zeelot> leme check
[07:33] <stdin> and mplayer doesn't use xine
[07:33] <Zeelot> I should
[07:34] <Zeelot> yea
[07:34] <unclemike> audio cds are acting wierd on this machine. amarok wont play em and loads them to "cdda:/4"  and clicking the audio cd icon just opens konqueror
[07:35] <K-Ryan> unclemike when konqueror opens up, are the audio files displayed?
[07:35] <unclemike> yeah, and a folder called Flac and Mp3 and a bunch of other wierd stuff
[07:35] <K-Ryan> Have you looked inside them?
[07:35] <unclemike> they are shown as was files
[07:36] <unclemike> *wav* files
[07:36] <unclemike> yeah its got the songs names, but with different extensions
[07:36] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[07:36] <K-Ryan> You have the extra codecs installed?
[07:36] <K-Ryan> libxine-extracodecs
[07:37] <unclemike> mp3 in the Mp3 folder, Cda folder, Information, Full CD, Ogg Vorbis
[07:37] <unclemike> those are the folders int the audio cd,  and this is an old cd not enhanced.  this hgappens for every cd I have
[07:37] <unclemike> yeah I have a feeling Its from some crap automatix installed
[07:38] <K-Ryan> I'm unfamiliar with that kind of issue, perhaps someone else can help.
[07:38] <unclemike> you could be rigth
[07:38] <K-Ryan> Sorry to sound like tech support =P
[07:38] <K-Ryan> You might want to try this in your terminal
[07:38] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:38] <K-Ryan> If the problem was missing codecs that will solve your problem.
[07:38] <unclemike> haha.  sorry to come in here with the tired "I srewed something up, help me"
[07:38] <unclemike> haha
[07:39] <K-Ryan> No biggie, I enjoy helping people out.
[07:39] <unix_infidel> anyone here used the fiesty live cd + ntfs-clone to backup ~10-15 gigs?"
[07:39] <unix_infidel> i'm curious about how much time it takes to JUST create a ntfs-clone backup.
[07:39] <unix_infidel> no compression.
[07:41] <unclemike> K-Ryan:  im thinking the problem is *too many* codecs.  automatix did not tell me what it was installing
[07:41] <K-Ryan> I don't think you can have too many.
[07:41] <Perseid> Hello. I have XP, Vista and Linux installed. Vista and XP boot fine from the Vista bootloader but Linux doesn't boot anymore. I'm using the boot DVD to get in but I can't figure out how to fix GRUB.
[07:41] <K-Ryan> It's one codec per file type as far as I know.
[07:41] <unclemike> K-Ryan:  I set this up for my uncle (if you cant tell)
[07:42] <K-Ryan> Mmm, alright
[07:42] <unclemike> Perseid: did you install vista *after you installed Linux?
[07:42] <Perseid> Yes
[07:42] <K-Ryan> Any luck with the libxine-extracodecs?
[07:42] <K-Ryan> Perseid that's your problem
[07:42] <K-Ryan> The Vista boot loader overwrote the Grub boot loader.
[07:42] <unclemike> Yeah, Windows does not play nice.
[07:42] <unclemike> you have to reinstall grub
[07:42] <Perseid> I know.
[07:42] <nixternal> gotta love MS...never install MS after Linux, it rewrites the MBR purposely...evil bastages ;)
[07:42] <K-Ryan> So it leaves your computer with only the option of booting Windows
[07:43] <tmbg> my pornview (v 0.2pre1-7) segfaults in a similar manner to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345100 but this bug was supposed to be fixed in 0.2pre1-6?
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Okay then, you need to install grub.
[07:43] <K-Ryan> !grub
[07:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Heheh
[07:43] <nixternal> notice how Linux (a majority of the distros) play nice and even include MS in the loader (lilo or grub), granted they toss it at the bottom where it belongs, but they still play nice ;)
[07:43] <felzix> should Xorg be taking up 300mB of memory?
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Oh that reminds me.
[07:44] <K-Ryan> I have so many different Ubuntu versions listed in Grub it's ridiculous.
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Granted it puts Windows really far down where it deserves to be.
[07:44] <K-Ryan> But it's ridiculous. I think I'm up to 9, how can I remove the older ones that I don't need?
[07:44] <tmbg> felzix, depends. what window manager or desktop environment are you using? some like kde try to use up memory in order to run faster
[07:44] <felzix> kde
[07:45] <felzix> since I only have 512 ram, this may be a problem...
[07:45] <unclemike> K-Ryan: libxine-extracodecs was is installed.  this is a fresh kubuntu feisty install and all the codecs are set up. I just think automatix bogged it up with a bunch of crap.  It installed a tons of uneeded crap
[07:45] <felzix> combined with amarok, I have about 70mb left to work with
[07:45] <K-Ryan> That might be it but I can't be sure as I didn't use Automatix.
[07:46] <K-Ryan> Keep asking around though, someone is bound to be able to help.
[07:46] <elyon> unclemike: That is why Ubuntu strongly recommends AGAINST using Automatix.
[07:46] <unclemike> yes, I can see taht now
[07:46] <MrBougo> is there any way to check if a package is installed?
[07:46] <MrBougo> with the console
[07:46] <unclemike> Its nice for google earth and some stuff, but mesing with codecs...
[07:46] <tmbg> MrBougo, you can check with apt-get.
[07:46] <elyon> MrBougo: Try typing "which [package name] " and hit enter
[07:47] <MrBougo> oh thank you :)
[07:47] <elyon> MrBougo: If it returns a location, then it is installed ;)
[07:47] <MrBougo> ima try both :p
[07:47] <MrBougo> okay :)
[07:47] <tmbg> errr apt-cache
[07:47] <MrBougo> oh
[07:48] <tmbg> apt-cache showpkg $whatever
[07:48] <stdin> MrBougo: or just do "dpkg -l | grep package"
[07:49] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how I can remove some of the ubuntu boot options from the grub menu?
[07:49] <K-Ryan> I have 9 of them.
[07:49] <elyon> K-Ryan: I'm assuming it is displaying all the different linux kernel versions?
[07:49] <Perseid> OK. I want to make sure I don't nuke my Vista bootloader. find /boot/grub/stage1 says (hd2,0). If I say root and setup (hd2,0) that is the linux partition, right? I have lots of drives on this system and it's hard to tell which is which.
[07:49] <K-Ryan> Probably
[07:49] <tmbg> or apt-cache pkgnames | grep $whatever
[07:49] <franz_> stdin, K-Ryan, looks like one of the forums posts was correct...you have a better chance of upgrading to fiesty with a slower connection :)
[07:49] <tmbg> so many ways to skin the same cat
[07:50] <K-Ryan> franz_ it depends on too many conditions.
[07:50] <K-Ryan> You're best bet is to try the upgrade while waiting for the cd.
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Whichever happens first happens first.
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Win either way ;)
[07:51] <unclemike> does apt-get have a history I can look through? dont see it in the man page?
[07:51] <K-Ryan> elyon how would i got about removing the older ones?
[07:51] <franz_> K-Ryan, true :) thanks for the help :) ( hopefully my distro update will now finish :) )
[07:51] <K-Ryan> franz_ No problem and good luck!
[07:51] <franz_> stdin, thanks for all the help ! :)
[07:51] <Perseid> "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd2,0)"... failed" Do I care?
[07:52] <K-Ryan> unclemike, I'm unaware or a history, but you can always tap the up arrow to cycle through commands you have entered.
[07:52] <elyon> unclemike: Unfortunately not.  I've always wished for that too... I've had many moments where I use Adept to install a bunch of packages, but when it doesn't install Menu listings (such as with VLC), it's hard to remember what I just installed.  But there's no way to look that up.
[07:52] <unclemike> cause I wish I knew what automatix installed
[07:52] <unclemike> thats what I thought...
[07:52] <intelikey> unclemike   sudo update-menus
[07:53] <elyon> !automatix | unclemike
[07:53] <ubotu> unclemike: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:53] <elyon> unclemike:  That's why it's so bad to use automatix... there's very little chance of reversing what it's done.
[07:53] <K-Ryan> Like what ubotu said, you'll probably be best off reinstalling.
[07:53] <elyon> intelikey: I don't have that command.
[07:54] <TheCreationist> there, intelikey, sorry ;)
[07:54] <K-Ryan> elyon sorry to bother again but you're the only person who has given me a lead, but how would i remove the older linux kernels?
[07:55] <K-Ryan> I said but twice in the same sentence, can you tell I'm getting tired? =)
[07:55] <MrBougo> you are
[07:55] <MrBougo> how can i tell tar to extract a tar to some dir
[07:55] <MrBougo> i know how to extract it to the current dir
[07:56] <Whitey> hello everyone
[07:56] <MrBougo> but on a specified dir??
[07:56] <K-Ryan> Hello Whitey
[07:56] <Whitey> I'm having a problem with my kubuntu feisty - I'm on a live cd now. I did a reset 30 minutes ago, and now grub's giving me error 22 :(
[07:56] <K-Ryan> MrBougo I'm not sure, I'll take a look at the program though
[07:56] <TheCreationist> K-Ryan: I would suggest looking through Adept for "linux" and "module".  But I know that grub has a text file that allows you to set the exact options that appear.  But I don't know exactly where/what that text file is.
[07:56] <unclemike> !WorksForMe
[07:56] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:56] <TheCreationist> K-Ryan: Maybe search Google for grub configuration tips?
[07:57] <K-Ryan> Whitey try google, pop in Grub error 22
[07:57] <K-Ryan> Start there
[07:57] <Whitey> hmmm, is konqueror the web browser for the livecd?
[07:57] <MrBougo> aw, i ejected a disk before unmounting it...
[07:57] <TheCreationist> Whitey: Yes, unfortunately.
[07:57] <Whitey> mmm, seeems to be :P
[07:57] <tmbg> my pornview (v 0.2pre1-7) segfaults in a similar manner to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345100 but this bug was supposed to be fixed in 0.2pre1-6?
[07:57] <MrBougo> and now that disk icon is stuck on my desktop
[07:57] <TheCreationist> Who the hell uses Konqueror for their default browser anyway?
[07:57] <TheCreationist> ugh
[07:57] <K-Ryan> Konqueror is the default web browser for Kubuntu
[07:57] <MrBougo> what can i do? :p
[07:58] <K-Ryan> Put it back in and try again?
[07:58] <K-Ryan> I use Konqueror...
[07:58] <TheCreationist> K-Ryan: I'm sorry lol
[07:58] <unclemike> I have to say, I just started using dolphin just to see, since its the buzz for kde4,  and I kinda like it
[07:58] <Whitey> I'm a firefox fan myself :)
[07:58] <K-Ryan> I don't see what's so bad about it *shrug*
[07:58] <Whitey> although it has it's downsides
[07:58] <K-Ryan> I use FireFox when I'm on Windows
[07:59] <TheCreationist> Whitey: I haven't found any yet, but I'm sure there are a few.
[07:59] <tmbg> firefox isn't the sleek and sexy browser it was a year or two ago
[07:59] <Whitey> if I'm running a game in the foreground, I use konqueror - uses less memory
[07:59] <unclemike> well konqueror loads pagees in wierd orders
[07:59] <intelikey> hmmm ff is about my least tollerated browser
[07:59] <K-Ryan> Opera?
[07:59] <Whitey> well some of my favorite firefox addons have some linux memory leak issues :P
[07:59] <TheCreationist> I'm too attached to all my Firefox extensions...
[07:59] <unclemike> that makes them shift around alot when its loading
[07:59] <K-Ryan> I know what you're talking about, it messed google up the other day.
[08:00] <unclemike> yeah, just read that article on osnews
[08:00] <unclemike> firefox is not the lean mean browser it used to be.   I used back in pheonix days
[08:00] <K-Ryan> I still prefer it over IE
[08:00] <K-Ryan> But I've never tried anything else, so it's the logical choice.
[08:01] <intelikey> installing plain ff wants over 70m packages
[08:01] <Whitey> opera isn't too bad - before firefox, it was my prefered browser on windows
[08:01] <tmbg> unclemike, heh, you repeated almost the exact thing I said 20 seconds ago
[08:02] <tmbg> 00:58 <tmbg> firefox isn't the sleek and sexy browser it was a year or two ago 01:00 <unclemike> firefox is not the lean mean browser it used to be.   I used back in pheonix days
[08:02] <unclemike> haha
[08:02] <K-Ryan> Haha
[08:02] <unclemike> your right I missed it
[08:02] <K-Ryan> Stop it! Now he's copying me!
[08:02] <K-Ryan> =P
[08:02] <unclemike> but I changed it around enough to get past the trademark ppl
[08:03] <K-Ryan> Yeah yeah, a lowercase h...
[08:03] <unclemike> I use opera on my 266 laptop with Icewin. haha its the only thing that seems to run decent enough
[08:04] <unclemike> besides lynx that is
[08:04] <cWolfe> why do most .wmv's suck?
[08:04] <unclemike> lol
[08:04] <cWolfe> in feisty...
[08:04] <K-Ryan> .wmv
[08:04] <K-Ryan> "Windows"
[08:04] <tmbg> no one has any idea about pornview & libxine segfault?
[08:05] <K-Ryan> pornview?
[08:05] <K-Ryan> Umm
[08:05] <cWolfe> K-Ryan,  um, yes porn nvids
[08:05] <tmbg> it has a silly name but it's a good image viewer.
[08:05] <cWolfe> oh
[08:05] <Whitey> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/pornview
[08:05] <Whitey> :P
[08:05] <cWolfe> not what Tmbg means
[08:05] <tmbg> for porn and for whatever other kind of images that people look at. the ones that aren't porn. I've heard about such a thing
[08:07] <unclemike> well I guess my friday nights gonna consist of a good old wipe the HD and reinstall feisty. w00t!
[08:07] <K-Ryan> Well you can do both at the same time
[08:07] <K-Ryan> It only took me 15 minutes or so to install.
[08:07] <tmbg> oh. thought you meant watch porn and reinstall feisty
[08:08] <K-Ryan> Get your mind out of the gutter =P
[08:08] <K-Ryan> Really we should stop before we get yelled at.
[08:08] <Whitey> K-Ryan: I've been googling for 10 minutes for grub error 22, all I've found is solutions for people with windows cds :(
[08:08] <K-Ryan> Whitey I'll enter it for you and see if anything pops up
[08:08] <Whitey> :P
[08:09] <unclemike> well the guy live 3 hours away so I gotta make sure everything he has is set up.  this was an ME *cring* box a few days ago
[08:09] <Whitey> lots of solutions for restoring the windows booter... which really wouldn't help me at all
[08:09] <Whitey> maybe I should go have a poke at my grub files..
[08:09] <K-Ryan> Wait
[08:09] <Whitey> gotta work out what prtition they're on first though -_-
[08:09] <K-Ryan> You have the GRUB Loading stage 1.5
[08:10] <K-Ryan> GRUB loading, please wait...
[08:10] <K-Ryan> Error 22
[08:10] <K-Ryan> That?
[08:10] <Whitey> yes :P
[08:10] <Whitey> I believe that's it
[08:10] <unclemike> but I have to admit.  Feisty has convinced me to finally start putting Linux on friends and family computers
[08:10] <K-Ryan> I had that...
[08:10] <Whitey> it means grub can't find the partiton
[08:10] <unclemike> in the last 2 months Ive installed it on 5 computers!
[08:10] <K-Ryan> It means Grub can't be found
[08:10] <Whitey> not bad unclemike :)
[08:10] <intelikey> Whitey boot problems ?
[08:10] <K-Ryan> Go mikey
[08:10] <Whitey> I was using MEPIS before hand, but I love Kubuntu Feisty :P
[08:10] <MrBougo> heh, when i click "administrator mode" in the CP in "date and time" it doesnt do anything
[08:10] <K-Ryan> Yes intelikey, his GRUB is giving him trouble.
[08:10] <Whitey> yes intelikey
[08:11] <MrBougo> i only see tgat red square
[08:11] <MrBougo> that*
[08:11] <unclemike> and not one complaint! well confusion yes. but they cant beleive how fast its running
[08:11] <Whitey> hmmm, I don't like koversation's tabbing system =/. Very strange
[08:11] <intelikey> Whitey k where are you now ?
[08:11] <K-Ryan> I like it
[08:11] <Whitey> on my kubuntu livecd
[08:11] <K-Ryan> He's on a Live CD
[08:11] <MrBougo> how can i change my timezone now...
[08:11] <Whitey> feisty 7.04 I believe
[08:11] <K-Ryan> KDE Menu>System Settings
[08:11] <intelikey> Whitey ok pastebin   sudo fdisk -l
[08:11] <K-Ryan> Start there MrBougo
[08:12] <unclemike> they all wanted to buy new computers and I said why? 1.5 Ghz running like dogs with XP. sucha  sad sad waste
[08:12] <K-Ryan> I myself want to get myself a new computer.
[08:12] <Whitey> heh... pastebin.com's broken :P
[08:12] <Whitey> Query failure: Can't open file: 'recent.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[08:12] <MrBougo> ok K-Ryan
[08:12] <Whitey> I'll try .ca :P
[08:12] <K-Ryan> This one is 6 years old, the DVD drive is stuck.
[08:12] <K-Ryan> The CD drive is getting stuck.
[08:13] <K-Ryan> It's an old P4 1.8GHz processor
[08:13] <MrBougo> then when i click on date & time then "administrator mode" it should ask me for my password
[08:13] <Whitey> http://pastebin.ca/496376
[08:13] <MrBougo> but it doesn't, and show me that red square
[08:13] <K-Ryan> Granted it runs nicely because I upgraded the RAM and graphics card.
[08:13] <MrBougo> heh, it works no
[08:13] <intelikey> looking
[08:13] <MrBougo> now*
[08:13] <unclemike> I was thinking of putting out an add around town and at my college for free linux install
[08:13] <MrBougo> that's odd...
[08:13] <Whitey> I have another hard drive, 120GB with a single windows partition on it, but it's not showing up there..
[08:13] <Whitey> haven't touched it in about 6 months
[08:13] <MrBougo> thank you anyways K-Ryan :p
[08:13] <K-Ryan> You're welcome ;)
[08:13] <MrBougo> xD
[08:14] <K-Ryan> unclemike the only thing is you'd have to worry if someone screwed it up.
[08:14] <unclemike> ok well install time. thanx for the help K-Ryan
[08:14] <unclemike> yeah one did
[08:14] <Whitey> hmmm... I wonder what that W95 Ext'd is =/
[08:14] <K-Ryan> They'll make you buy them Vista =P
[08:14] <K-Ryan> *shivers*
[08:14] <intelikey> Whitey oooh yuch.  how did your sda1 get deleted ?
[08:14] <unclemike> started adding media devices all over the place
[08:14] <unclemike> lol
[08:14] <K-Ryan> No problem, good luck with everything mike
[08:15] <unclemike> trying to find a cd she forgot to put into the drive
[08:15] <unclemike> omg...
[08:15] <K-Ryan> I think I'm going to head out for the night
[08:15] <Whitey> intelikey: as far as I know, it didn't =/
[08:15] <Whitey> all I did is reboot....
[08:15] <K-Ryan> G'night guys.
[08:15] <tahsin> is this a kubuntu help chat room ?
[08:15] <Whitey> night K-Ryan - ty :)
[08:15] <K-Ryan> Yes tahsin it is
[08:15] <intelikey> Whitey looks like  653 blank cylenders at the beginning of the disk
[08:15] <MrBougo> why does my tty font look odd...
[08:15] <MrBougo> it looks like greek stuff
[08:15] <MrBougo> i get some encoding glitches
[08:16] <Whitey> hmmm... would that be my boot sector?
[08:16] <Whitey> I know it's not my root (thank god)
[08:16] <Whitey> sda8 is my kubuntu root
[08:16] <tahsin> Can anyone help me get more softwares on the add/remove software list ?
[08:16] <MrBougo> on line 16 of the apt-get manpage, i see "considered the user<tau greek letter>s"
[08:17] <intelikey> Whitey that translate to about 5g on that disk that was probably where grub lived
[08:17] <MrBougo> and the m and w look odd...
[08:17] <Whitey> grub needs 5GB? o_O
[08:17] <Whitey> oh wait..
[08:17] <Whitey> it would have been my old MEPIS root
[08:17] <intelikey> Whitey no  but was probably on that partition
[08:17] <Whitey> that was 5GB
[08:17] <Whitey> and had a /boot
[08:17] <Whitey> hmmm, but it should have been booting off my kubuntu boot...
[08:18] <tahsin> Can anyone help me get more softwares on the add/remove software list ?
[08:18] <Whitey> well, my root is in sda8, and /boot is in there... How can I make grub understand that? :P
[08:18] <intelikey> Whitey well we'll try to get it to       try this in a konsole ....  give me a second to check something first
[08:18] <Whitey> k :P
[08:18] <MrBougo> do you guys also have a crazy tty font?
[08:18] <MrBougo> m and w's look capital
[08:19] <tahsin> K-Ryan Can you help me get more softwares on the add/remove software list ?
[08:19] <Whitey> MrBougo: I have "considered the user's "back-end""
[08:19] <Whitey> :P
[08:19] <MrBougo> huh?
[08:19] <Whitey> in the apt-get man
[08:20] <intelikey> Whitey  sudo mount /dev/sda8 /media && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/ /dev/sda
[08:20] <Whitey> I think it's a character encoding thing, that replaces things like ' and " with weird letters
[08:20] <MrBougo> oh
[08:20] <MrBougo> me too
[08:20] <MrBougo> but the " ' " in "user's" looks odd
[08:20] <tahsin> intelikey Can you help me get more softwares on the add/remove software list ?
[08:20] <intelikey> Whitey that assumes you didn't have it mounted
[08:20] <Whitey> yeah, I just unmounted it intelikey :P
[08:20] <MrBougo> it's white, not gray, and it's a greek letter or something
[08:20] <MrBougo> looks like tau
[08:21] <intelikey> tahsin pastebin the output of;  cat /etc/apt/sources.list      and i'll see
[08:21] <Whitey> hmmm, I got some xfs warnings intelikey, but no errors
[08:21] <Whitey> (hd0)   /dev/sda
[08:21] <Whitey> (hd1)   /dev/sdb
[08:21] <intelikey> yes the warning is normal
[08:21] <Whitey> that looks right...
[08:21] <intelikey> test it
[08:21] <Whitey> I think that's the boot map from when I installed kubuntu
[08:22] <MrBougo> Whitey, you used konsole right?
[08:22] <Whitey> good point, brb (I hope :P)
[08:22] <Whitey> yes MrBougo :P
[08:22] <MrBougo> i'm talking about the tty, ctrl-alt-F1
[08:22] <MrBougo> in konsole it looks ok :)
[08:22] <FrankX> hi all, for some reason my "Start Bar" has disappeared!? it keeps doing it *sometimes* when I boot the pc up. No errors are shown. anyone got any ideas how to A) get it back & B) stop it from disappearing in the first place.?
[08:22] <Whitey> oh, I don't use tty :P
[08:22] <Whitey> brb :D
[08:22] <tahsin> intelikey Do I paste the whole thing here ?
[08:22] <intelikey> MrBougo i'm a console guy what gives ?
[08:23] <intelikey> tahsin not here.  use a pastebin.
[08:23] <tahsin> intelikey how do i do that ?
[08:23] <tahsin> intelikey im new
[08:23] <intelikey> tahsin http://www.pastebin.ca
[08:23] <MrBougo> intelikey, do your console font also look odd with m's and w's?
[08:23] <tahsin> thnx
[08:23] <intelikey> go there you'll see tahsin
[08:23] <MrBougo> they look like capital letters
[08:24] <intelikey> MrBougo no i've got a good clean console
[08:24] <MrBougo> oh
[08:24] <MrBougo> line 16 of manpage apt-get looks ok too?
[08:24] <MrBougo> with "user's"
[08:24] <tahsin> intelikey i posted it
[08:25] <intelikey> tahsin i need the url it returned
[08:25] <tahsin> http://www.pastebin.ca/496387
[08:25] <intelikey> ok
[08:26] <intelikey> tahsin if you are not going to use that upgrade feature you should probably comment out line 1
[08:27] <tahsin> intelikey okay then ?
[08:27] <tahsin> intelikey how do i more softwares
[08:27] <MrBougo> heh, now my TTY looks ok...
[08:27] <intelikey> lines 28/29 you can uncomment   "not always the best idea though"
[08:27] <MrBougo> i don't get it... i really don't
[08:28] <MrBougo> i have minor problems, i try to understand them, and they suddenly disappear
[08:28] <MrBougo> lmao
[08:28] <intelikey> MrBougo sounds like a framebuffering issue maybe.   try "on the next boot"  using vga=normal    and see if it still does it
[08:29] <tahsin> intelikey how do i more softwares
[08:29] <tahsin> add more softwares*
[08:29] <intelikey> tahsin lines 35 through 39 should be removed   they are redundant.
[08:29] <tahsin> ok
[08:29] <Linux_Galore> can anyone tell me if www.kde-apps.org or www.kde-look.org are still up
[08:29] <MrBougo> intelikey, is it possible that it affects only m's and w's and thow one greek letter instead of an apostrophe?
[08:30] <MrBougo> show*
[08:30] <MrBougo> Linux_Galore,  kde-apps down
[08:30] <MrBougo> look too
[08:30] <Linux_Galore> MrBougo: good, I dont need to fix my proxy
[08:30] <intelikey> tahsin now beyond that i regret to inform you, i can not (or maybe will not) be able to help you add more listings    that is all of the official listings.
[08:31] <tahsin> intelikey okay so that means that i will have to work with these limited number of softwares ?
[08:31] <intelikey> MrBougo yes   it's also possable that console-utils is misconfigured or has a bug.   i personally don't use it.
[08:32] <Whitey> well it kind of worked intelikey :D
[08:32] <Whitey> better than it was anyway... :P
[08:32] <intelikey> tahsin yes or install from source code things that are not listed in them
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> hmm www.gnome-look.org is also down
[08:32] <Whitey> when I tried to boot normally, from the HD, I got the friendly old SYSTEM DISK ERROR message
[08:32] <intelikey> !b=e | tahsin
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about b=e - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <MrBougo> intelikey, it looks fixed now, after rebooting...
[08:32] <Whitey> I tried using my kubuntu livecd to boot off the first hd, and it opened grub
[08:33] <Whitey> however I continually got an error trying to boot there - wrong hard drive =/
[08:33] <intelikey> MrBougo i'll hang it on "frame buffer"  until proven different.
[08:34] <MrBougo> anyways i can't check this, because the problem is gone :p
[08:34] <intelikey> Whitey ok one other thing.    is your disk  ide or sata ?   or other ?
[08:34] <Whitey> intelikey: there aren't many files in /boot, only 6 of them and no folders... shouldn't there be more? =/
[08:34] <Whitey> ide
[08:34] <Whitey> however kubuntu reads it as a sda :(
[08:35] <intelikey> Whitey edit the /boot/grub/devices.map    and change the sda to hda     "no promices but it might help"
[08:35] <Whitey> there are no folders in /boot :P
[08:36] <intelikey> Whitey yes linux reads it as sda because it's using scsi emulation for all disks   but the bios doesn't  and that's what grub reads.  the bios
[08:36] <Whitey> silly ubuntu :P
[08:36] <intelikey> Whitey say what ?
[08:36] <Whitey> there are no folders in boot :P
 there are no folders in /boot ?
[08:36] <Whitey> only 6 files, no folders
[08:37] <intelikey> no grub/ ?
[08:37] <Whitey> nope :P
[08:37] <intelikey> are you on the live cd as we speek ?
[08:37] <Whitey> hmmm... wait a second...
[08:37] <Whitey> my bad -_-
[08:37] <Whitey> I'm looking in /boot
[08:37] <Whitey> not /media/boot
[08:37] <Whitey> :P
[08:37] <intelikey> :)
[08:37] <Whitey> damn partitions
[08:39] <Whitey> hmmm...
[08:39] <Whitey> in my device.map, I now have
[08:39] <Whitey> hd0)   /dev/hda
[08:39] <Whitey> (hd1)   /dev/sdb
[08:39] <Whitey> however
[08:39] <Whitey> in menu.lst, my ubuntu load reads
[08:39] <Whitey> root            (hd1,7)
[08:39] <Whitey> that means it'll attempt to boot off sdb, right?
[08:39] <Whitey> so I should change that one to hda, not the other one?
[08:39] <intelikey> Whitey i just thought of something else that may be tweekin' grub's mellon       there isn't a partition 1   so bios may be mis-numbering them.
[08:40] <intelikey> Whitey right.
[08:40] <Whitey> does it matter if hd0 and hd1 are pointing to hda?
[08:40] <intelikey> Whitey fix your menu.lst
[08:40] <Whitey> I'm pretty sure hd0 was originally sda though, as I do have a sata
[08:40] <Whitey> ok
[08:41] <Whitey> this is good actually... I'm understanding a bit more about my PC ^_^
[08:41] <Whitey> anyhoot, reboot number two :P
[08:42] <intelikey> yes it matters.   the devices.map tells grub where to find the kernel    the menu.lst tells the kernel where it lives.     so you will by all means have to get them both in an acceptable state as pertaining to the way bios sees them
[08:42] <fdoving> good thing someone are positive when things break :)
[08:42] <intelikey> fdoving yeah
[08:42] <fdoving> 08:41 < Whitey> this is good actually... I'm understanding a bit more about my PC ^_^
[08:42] <fdoving> i like that one :)
[08:42] <intelikey> fdoving yeah
[08:43] <intelikey> some people are easy to help.
[08:43] <intelikey> then there are the ones that know nothing
[08:43] <intelikey> and worse than that there are the ones that know everything
[08:43] <FrankX> my K-bar (same as start bar in windows?) has disappeared - how do i get it back? (not due to it being auto hidden)
[08:44] <intelikey> FrankX  sudo killall kicker ;kicker
[08:44] <FrankX> and more to the point, how do I stop it from disappearing in the first place?
[08:44] <intelikey> you can use   alt+f2  to get a place to put that
[08:45] <fdoving> click run in terminal if you use sudo.
[08:45] <tmbg> or alt+space
[08:45] <intelikey> oh wait.  kdesu  killall kicker ;kicker
[08:45] <fdoving> alt+space does not take regular commands.
[08:45] <fdoving> only desktop-file-names.
[08:45] <intelikey> sudo wont open a window....
[08:46] <tmbg> kdesu will.
[08:47] <FrankX> ok, thanks but it came up for a second, seemed to empty the trash:/ then went again ?!?
[08:47] <intelikey> FrankX fdoving would be the one to help you trubble shoot how it vanished    i don't normally use the pointy clicky thingy called a GUI
[08:48] <fdoving> intelikey: probably an applet, as they are in the same process. systray-things have their own processes.
[08:48] <FrankX> i would do konsole but canny even get to it! lol
[08:48] <intelikey> FrankX you can.   alt+f2  konsole
[08:48] <FrankX> it seems to do this randomly when i start up
[08:49] <FrankX> ooh nice - konsole ;o)
[08:50] <raylu> pointy clicky thingy called a gui....
[08:50] <intelikey> :)
[08:51] <intelikey> i hear the fox puppies fighting,  i'm going to see if i can get a look at them.
[08:51] <FrankX> so without the "pointy clicky thing", in konsole what do i do? lol
[08:53] <whitey> just here to say ty so much intelikey :D
[08:53] <whitey> it works :P
[08:53] <whitey> although I have to use my kubuntu livecd and choose "boot from first hard drive" to make grub work
[08:53] <whitey> but I've always done that
[08:54] <whitey> I don't really mind though, I don't use my cdrom drive :)
[08:54] <whitey> anyway, ty again ^_^
[08:56] <intelikey> man what a dog fight.
[08:56] <intelikey> i didn't know foxes were so agressive
[08:56] <LordOfThePigs> Hello!
[08:57] <intelikey> you'd think that these puppies were trying to kill each other...    (wild silver foxes)
[08:57] <LordOfThePigs> Does anybody know why Kubuntu download firefox when I install the Chinese language from the system settings?
[08:58] <LordOfThePigs> definitely looks strange to me...
[08:58] <intelikey> LordOfThePigs sounds strange too
[08:59] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove firefox   and see if it offers to take the language pack with it ?
[08:59] <intelikey> you can always say no.
[08:59] <LordOfThePigs> well... It's not finished installing yet
[08:59] <intelikey> oh yeah.  ff is huge
[08:59] <LordOfThePigs> yeah, and so is the chinese language pack
[09:00] <LordOfThePigs> not to mention that chinese internet connections blow...
[09:00] <fdoving> LordOfThePigs: what is the packagename of that langpack?
[09:01] <LordOfThePigs> er...the first package to be downloaded was language-pack-kde-zh-base
[09:02] <fdoving> that does not depend on firefox.
[09:02] <LordOfThePigs> I suppose that's the main package that the language installer chose
[09:02] <LordOfThePigs> Then, maybe the language installed decided that I needed firefox
[09:03] <fdoving> LordOfThePigs: or maybe it decided to install the firefox language things. that would require firefox too :)
[09:03] <LordOfThePigs> heh
[09:03] <fdoving> mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn or similar.
[09:03] <intelikey> or mozila-language* which would prolly opt for ff
[09:04] <LordOfThePigs> I really don't know what packages the language installer chose, I don't get to see those
[09:04] <LordOfThePigs> so...
[09:04] <fdoving> you can find out when it's finished. in /var/log/dpkg.log
[09:05] <LordOfThePigs> Should I consider this install of firefox as a bug?
[09:06] <fdoving> LordOfThePigs: yes.
[09:06] <intelikey> language-pack-kde-zh-base   Depends: locales (>= 2.3.6), language-pack-kde-zh    <<<  that's dapper,
[09:07] <LordOfThePigs> well... I found out that chinese input is just borked most of the time
[09:07] <LordOfThePigs> I thought I did something wrong in my first try at installing it, so I reinstalled the whole system
[09:07] <LordOfThePigs> applied the updates
[09:08] <intelikey> yes zh needs to be totally rewriten as far as computers are concerned
[09:08] <LordOfThePigs> and directly used the language installer to add chinese
[09:08] <adydas> whats the dang file you edit to change run levels to boot to console first
[09:08] <LordOfThePigs> How come it works reasonably well on Ubuntu though?
[09:08] <intelikey> adydas there isn't one
[09:09] <adydas> err
[09:09] <fdoving> adydas: you don't change runlevels to do that anymore. you move /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm to /etc/rc2.d/K99kdm
[09:09] <adydas> im posative ive done it before
[09:09] <adydas> since when
[09:09] <adydas> my last install of kubuntu i edited a 5 to a 3 or somthing
[09:09] <adydas> in a conf..
[09:09] <fdoving> it's been the proper way to do it for years.
[09:09] <intelikey> adydas all runlevels are alike except 0,1,6   halt single (root console) and reboot  respectivly
[09:10] <adydas> ok so what must i do to boot to console by default
[09:10] <fdoving> adydas: you move /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm to /etc/rc2.d/K99kdm
[09:10] <adydas> or what can i googgle ( as this is why im getting nothing )
[09:10] <LordOfThePigs> where should I report the bug?
[09:10] <fdoving> adydas: S means start K means kill. rename it back if you want KDM back.
[09:10] <intelikey> or just rm  /etc/rc2.d/S*dm
[09:11] <fdoving> LordOfThePigs: bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:11] <fdoving> intelikey: that would make them re-appear on upgrades.
[09:11] <youbuntu> !defragment
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defragment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <intelikey> would let them.  yes
[09:11] <LordOfThePigs> and how come it tries to install some Dapper package...
[09:11] <adydas> s13kdm ?
[09:12] <intelikey> LordOfThePigs what ?
[09:12] <uga> uhm, anyone knows if websvn can be made require authentication just like dav?
[09:12] <LordOfThePigs> well, that what you said, isn't it? --> language-pack-kde-zh-base   Depends: locales (>= 2.3.6), language-pack-kde-zh    <<<  that's dapper,
[09:13] <intelikey> LordOfThePigs you misread.  i said that listhing was for dapper.   i have dapper
[09:13] <LordOfThePigs> oh
[09:13] <intelikey> LordOfThePigs so you would know why the version numbers didn't match
[09:15] <unix_infidel> anyone here ever tried a backup of an ntfs partition with ntfs-clone and a feisty live cd?
[09:15] <unix_infidel> no compression involved, how long is the process usually.
[09:15] <intelikey> here comes one now.
[09:15] <uga> oh well, lets use apache auth...
[09:17] <intelikey> fdoving know anything about uga's Q   i'm network illiterate
[09:17] <LordOfThePigs> so, I've checked the 4 language-pack packages that have been downloaded, and none depends on firefox
[09:17] <adydas> ok
[09:17] <adydas> i have no such file in my rc2.d folder called S99kdm
[09:17] <uga> intelikey: it's fine, I think I figured out, but thanks anyway. Websvn doesn't seem to implement any authentication system, but apache allows doing that itself
[09:18] <uga> intelikey: it's explained here nicely http://www.sesp.cse.clrc.ac.uk/Publications/cvs-svn/node46.html
[09:18] <intelikey> adydas as i mentioned    *dm   could be gdm xdm    and the prefix could be  S{0..99}
[09:18] <LordOfThePigs> Oh, and I have another general question. Is there any defined cycle on which Ubuntu updates application packages?
[09:19] <intelikey> uga ok.   and fdoving you can disreguard my Q  :)
[09:20] <intelikey> LordOfThePigs yes as bug fixes and security updates come out
[09:20] <intelikey> almost daily something is updated
[09:21] <LordOfThePigs> yeah, I saw the security fixes
[09:21] <LordOfThePigs> but I mean real application updates
[09:21] <intelikey> next release
[09:21] <intelikey> 6 months
[09:21] <LordOfThePigs> Okay
[09:21] <LordOfThePigs> and What's into the multiverse packages?
[09:22] <adydas> anyone got a help file to help me change to console only booting
[09:22] <intelikey> !repos | LordOfThePigs
[09:22] <ubotu> LordOfThePigs: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:23] <intelikey> adydas   find /etc/rc2.d/ -iname '*dm'    and  mv it replacing the S with  a K    or rm it completly
[09:23] <intelikey> surely you can do that...
[09:24] <adydas> i think i got it
[09:24] <adydas> i had no "kdm" file in there that i could find
[09:24] <adydas> either way 'update-rc.d -f kdm remove" does the trick
[09:26] <intelikey> E: unexpected EOF looking for matching '
[09:27] <oldwest> using kubuntu - added kde toys - but can't see it in anywhere in K Menu - any idea's?
[09:27] <intelikey> kdesu update-menus
[09:28] <tmbg> or run kappfinder
[09:28] <Perseid> I'm in grub, and find /boot/grub/stage1 says not found even though I can navigate to /boot/grub and stage1 is right there.
[09:28] <oldwest> intelikey - run from konsole?
[09:29] <fdoving> adydas: be aware that on kdm upgrades it will be re-enabeled with the update-rc.d -f kdm remove method.
[09:29] <intelikey> or wait 20 seconds and they will probably be in the kmenu
[09:29] <intelikey> oldwest yes
[09:29] <fdoving> intelikey: update-menus is for the debian menu-thing. kbuildsycoca is for kde.
[09:29] <oldwest> thx - will give it a try
[09:29] <intelikey> fdoving it doesn't update in kde ?
[09:30] <fdoving> intelikey: update-menus will only update the debian-submenu of the kmenu, if you have the 'menu' package installed. (update-menus is part of that package)
[09:31] <LordOfThePigs> oh, it seems that language-support-zh requires mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn which in turn requires firefox
[09:31] <intelikey> so is 'menu' default in kubuntu ?
[09:31] <LordOfThePigs> heh...
[09:32] <fdoving> LordOfThePigs: that was my guess, please report a bug on that one.
[09:32] <LordOfThePigs> and it also requires thunderbird...
[09:32] <richard> ahojte
[09:33] <intelikey> and oo.o
[09:33] <intelikey> Depends: mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn, mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-tw, scim-chewing, scim-pinyin, scim-tables-zh, openoffice.org-help-zh-cn | openoffice.org2-help-zh-cn, openoffice.org-help-zh-tw | openoffice.org2-help-zh-tw, openoffice.org-l10n-zh-cn | openoffice.org2-l10n-zh-cn, openoffice.org-l10n-zh-tw | openoffice.org2-l10n-zh-tw, im-switch, thunderbird-locale-zh-cn, gimp-help-zh-cn
[09:33] <LordOfThePigs> Oh, one last thing. When I installed kubuntu-desktop on top of my ubuntu, I got a wizard to setup the general behavior of KDE, like single click to open folders and stuff
[09:33] <LordOfThePigs> How can I get this wizard to show under kubuntu
[09:33] <oldwest> intelikey - got following error - update-menus: not found
[09:34] <intelikey> oldwest yes sorry fdoving corrected me.  that's not a default app.   try   kbuildsycoca
[09:34] <intelikey> oldwest that should be there.
[09:35] <Perseid> Adept is saying the package manager is in use and its not...
[09:35] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | Perseid
[09:35] <ubotu> Perseid: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:35] <oldwest> ran that and got - ERROR: No database available!
[09:36] <intelikey> did it work or not oldwest  ?
[09:36] <oldwest> nope got error i listed
[09:37] <intelikey> but did it work or not oldwest  ?
[09:37] <intelikey> i think i remember jucato saying that was a feature not an error...
[09:37] <oldwest> i will check k - menu to see if listed hang on
[09:39] <oldwest> still don't see kde toys listed anywhere - try uninstall from synaptics - reboot - and reinstall?
[09:39] <intelikey> it's in games
[09:40] <oldwest> cheez - what klutz - soooorrrrryyyyyy.... ;o(
[09:41] <oldwest> thx inteli - bein g a dumb a.. again - i've seen the ligt - grin
[09:41] <intelikey> sorry.  had to get a plug in on that one.
[09:41] <intelikey> :)
[09:46] <bogdan> hello
[09:47] <guillermo> shockwave a flash player? how do i make this plugins work in webconquror or firefox?
[09:48] <intelikey> !flash
[09:48] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:48] <Perseid> Wow, this Kubuntu install has gone to pieces. Now I have no sound. I have an Audigy.
[09:49] <intelikey> !sound
[09:49] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:49] <intelikey> Perseid check there ^
[09:50] <Perseid> Thanks
[09:50] <intelikey> shooot...   line 513: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[09:52] <kraut> moin
[09:54] <intelikey> kraut
[09:56] <kraut> hello intelikey
[09:57] <guillermo> how do i make conqueror to use jave?
[09:57] <guillermo> for some games i mean
[09:59] <blackdiamond> Hi everybody. I've got a problem. Downloading a bioinformatic program "Folding@home" for linux from this webpage http://folding.stanford.edu/italian/download.html i obtain an .exe programm.. how is it possible in linux and what i have to do? thanks
[10:00] <intelikey> unzip file.exe
[10:01] <blackdiamond> is not possible to transform .exe in .deb?
[10:01] <blackdiamond> using command lines?
[10:01] <Perseid> OK. Since I have an Audigy I'm trying to modprobe snd-emu10k2 but it says it's not found. Is there a package I need to get?
[10:03] <Hobbsee> blackdiamond: it's not
[10:04] <blackdiamond> so, sorry for this stupid question..i have to unzipped exe file and then is possible to install it?
[10:04] <blackdiamond> thanks hobb
[10:05] <Hobbsee> that's the equivalent of asking if you can open a mac application on XP.
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[10:05] <Hobbsee> er, run
[10:05] <Hobbsee> hi MilhousePunkRock!
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> hello Hobbsee!
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> What was that command to remove modules from init.d again?
[10:06] <Hobbsee> remove, or unload?
[10:09] <intelikey> any chance this will work in a case loop ?        `translations -s | grep -woie $WHATTODO`)
[10:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: So that's like "/etc/init.d/module.name remove" ?
[10:12] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: are you looking for 'update-rc.d -f modulename remove' ? - remebmer it won't remove anything from /etc/init.d/, it will only remove the symlinks from /etc/rc?.
[10:12] <fdoving> d
[10:13] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock  or  modprobe -r module-name    ?
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: Yeah, update-rc, that's it...
[10:13] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: what fdoving said :)
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Because I neither need bluetooth nor wacom stuff, every upgrade (like from dapper to edgy or from edgy to feisty) puts them back into action
[10:15] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: ah, then you don't want update-rc.d, you want to manually rename the links in /etc/rc2.d/
[10:15] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: you want to rename from example: S10script to K10script
[10:16] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: that way they won't be reactivated by upgrades.
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: Just from S to K? Because there is some stuff with K already...
[10:19] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: yes, from S to K. from Start to Kill
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> what's the modprobe parameter to show all modules currently loaded?
[10:22] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: use 'lsmod' for that.
[10:24] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: Right, thanks, I keep forgetting even the basic stuff...
[10:24] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: they will soon be history when we properly start using upstrart :)
[10:24] <fdoving> upstart, that is.
[10:25] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock  lsmod to list inserted modules.  modprobe -L to list all avalable modules     rmmod and modprobe -r  remove modules from the running kernel.
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: Well, I thought it was in Feisty. On the other hand, I was wondering why there is still the regular init script structur that I know from my Gentoo box...
[10:26] <MilhousePunkRock> s/structur/structure
[10:27] <MilhousePunkRock> So lsmod shows no wacom or bluetooth stuff... But raid, I wonder where that comes from...
[10:29] <MilhousePunkRock> I think that's the downside of Kubuntu's automagic, you will always find things that you really do not need... No RAID or LVM here, but still it loads it...
[10:31] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <intelikey> all your wacom errors are from there.   i think
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: I don't get wacom errors, but as I do not have a tablet pc, I don't need those modules.. Anyway, thanks for the reminder to look into the xorg.conf too, because I would get errors now without the modules
[10:33] <intelikey> bluetooth i'm not sure about.    grep -HiRe 'bluetooth' /etc     will surely list it though
[10:35] <intelikey> oh and MilhousePunkRock most modules wont insert if the hardware is not there.    "some will of course"        and i couldn't tell you which those are.
[10:35] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Nice, looks like ibm-acpi loads the bluetooth stuff
[10:39] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: But they will still try and look for the hardware, which slows down my boot process, won't they?
[10:40] <intelikey> balal balal sham balal shama
[10:40] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock yes.   unless you blacklist them or by some other means disable them.
[10:41] <intelikey> there is always more than one method of removing the epidurmal of the felion
[10:42] <intelikey> yaradi Habiat.   shalom.
[10:43] <MrBougo> hello
[10:43] <MrBougo> 361 connected, amazing
[10:44] <aleksanteri> what's with kde-look.org? i get "connection refused" when trying to wget the index page >_>
[10:44] <MrBougo> aleksanteri, it's down
[10:44] <aleksanteri> any idea when it's coming back?
[10:44] <MrBougo> how can i know this
[10:44] <MrBougo> bah, just wait :)
[10:44] <aleksanteri> right :P
[10:45] <MrBougo> you can't do anything else, heh
[10:45] <aleksanteri> yeah :|
[10:49] <jordi_> aguna
[10:49] <haense> grss gott, spricht jemand deutsch?
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> haense: #kubuntu-de
[10:49] <haense> ok thanks
[10:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, I'm out now... Have a nice day everyone!
[10:56] <MrBougo> heh, how can you disable spell chacking?
[10:56] <MrBougo> checking*
[10:57] <pag> MrBougo, where? or do you want to disable it everywhere?
[10:57] <MrBougo> everywhere
[10:58] <MrBougo> i gues i have to remove some packages
[10:58] <Zot> a veces me pregunto si los peces duermen...
[10:58] <pag> !es | Zot
[10:58] <ubotu> Zot: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:12] <nbcb> what do i need in order to play a original movie dvd?????? what packages
[11:13] <nbcb> !dvd
[11:13] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:26] <|ericsson|> I'm having problems with dvd-playback in kaffeine, keeps telling me that no demux plugin is found
[11:26] <lydia> i  hav problems with amule
[11:26] <lydia> refuses to lauch
[11:26] <lydia> help anymone?
[11:26] <premier__> lydia: did you try running it in console?
[11:27] <premier__> thats usually the first step in debugging a problem
[11:27] <premier__> what is amule
[11:27] <lydia> what command to run an app?
[11:27] <lydia> amule is emule
[11:27] <lydia> for linux users
[11:28] <premier__> lydia: well, you got to a console window, and you type the name of the program.  Then tell me what it does
[11:28] <premier__> what is emule?
[11:28] <lydia> p2p
[11:28] <lydia> failmed to open device
[11:28] <lydia> texting skins
[11:29] <lydia> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:29] <lydia> the same fotr xmule
[11:30] <lydia> *** glibc detected *** xmule: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x08e92c0c ***
[11:31] <sandhya> hello. How do I get Azureus to start when I log on?
[11:31] <jay> stupid question
[11:31] <Lynoure> jay: rude answer
[11:31] <lydia> lol
[11:31] <jay> how do I edit a file that it says I can't write to.
[11:31] <jay> Oh wow, look at the wit on you.
[11:32] <Lynoure> sandhya: you can add it to ~/.kde/Autostart  or more easily, just do not close it when you log out
[11:32] <premier__> misunderstanding much?
[11:32] <sandhya> Lynoure: there is no way to do this without using the command line?
[11:32] <premier__> jay: I think what you want is root access, right?
[11:32] <Lynoure> sandhya: The latter takes no action at all
[11:32] <jay> because I need to edit the alsa-base file in the modeprobe.d folder
[11:32] <premier__> sandhya: you don't need command line
[11:32] <jay> and i can't do it
[11:32] <jay> I tried become su
[11:33] <jay> and opening it with kate in terminal
[11:33] <premier__> jay: whats wrong with su?
[11:33] <jay> but kate wont work from terminal
[11:33] <premier__> jay: why not?
[11:33] <crimsun> jay: kdesu 'kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base'
[11:33] <sandhya> Lynoure: When I don't shut it down, Azureus gives me a bunch of warnings then next time it starts etc.
[11:33] <lydia> no matter
[11:34] <crimsun> jay: otherwise you can use any of the installed ncurses-based editors
[11:34] <sandhya> premier__: oh you mean using a text editor?
[11:34] <jay> root@God:/etc/modprobe.d# kdesu 'kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base'
[11:34] <jay> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:34] <jay> Xlib: No protocol specified
[11:34] <jay> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[11:34] <Lynoure> sandhya: hmm, that's annoying.
[11:34] <premier__> sandhya: heres how you do it: open up kate, write the name of the program you want (azureus).  Then save it to home/you/.kde/Autostart.
[11:34] <guillermo> is there any iso. mounter, like deamon tools?
[11:34] <jay> crimsun, what
[11:34] <premier__> now, go find the file with konqueror
[11:34] <bozz_> hello, I'm a first timer here
[11:34] <jay> I'm a little off my gord tonight
[11:34] <jay> i got in the rum
[11:35] <crimsun> jay: ``sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base'', for instance
[11:35] <Lynoure> sandhya: the command line bit does not take much, I can walk you through it if you wish
[11:35] <premier__> sandhya: then, right click on the file, go to properties
[11:35] <guillermo> hello
[11:35] <premier__> sandhya: goto permissions, then click the check box for "executable"
[11:35] <premier__> sandhya: that should work
[11:35] <lydia> b69e4000-b69e7000 r--s 00000000 03:41 5881920    /var/cache/fontconfiAborted (core dumped)
[11:35] <lydia> xtf
[11:35] <lydia> wtf
[11:36] <bozz_> can someone help me please, I dont have direc rendering...
[11:36] <premier__> lydia: that means your program crashed... I'm not really sure how to help you
[11:36] <lydia> ok
[11:36] <sandhya> premier__: Autostart seems to be a directory.. So I should just give the file _any_ name?
[11:36] <premier__> sandhya: yeah, sorry, any name will do
[11:37] <premier__> sandhya: what your doing is writing a script, and everytime you start up kde, it will attempt to execute it
[11:37] <pag> bozz_, what card do you have? (nvidia, ati etc.)
[11:37] <premier__> bozz_: what kind of card do you have?
[11:37] <Lynoure> premier__: Autostart does not require   #! /bin/sh ?
[11:37] <premier__> lol, jinx
[11:37] <bozz_> I have ATI X700
[11:37] <jay> thanks guys, have to restart to see if it works
[11:38] <premier__> Lynoure: not sure actually... maybe I should have her do that
[11:38] <jay> someone find my lighter while I'mgone.
[11:38] <premier__> lydia: could you click on the file after your make it exectutable?  Azureus should come up
[11:38] <sandhya> premier__: done. thanks! I will have to restart to test it.
[11:39] <premier__> bozz_: some of the radeons have a nasty driver called fglrx
[11:39] <sandhya> I have another question though
[11:39] <premier__> I'm not sure if thats you or not
[11:39] <premier__> sandhya: shoot
[11:39] <premier__> !ask | sandhya
[11:39] <ubotu> sandhya: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:39] <bozz_> premier_: yeah I'm trying to use that
[11:39] <sandhya> how do i set Konqueror to always start with a view configuration that I have saved?
[11:39] <bozz_> but renderer is still Mesa
[11:39] <premier__> bozz_: are you following the ubuntu tutorial?
[11:40] <bozz_> premier_ yeah of course
[11:40] <premier__> sandhya: well, in one of the menus, theres a button that says "save view configuration or something like that"
[11:40] <sandhya> I saved one named Sandhya.. but every time I start up Konqueror I have to manually choose it
[11:40] <premier__> sandhya: it doesn't work perfectly yet
[11:40] <sandhya> Can't I just have it as the default?
[11:40] <bozz_> I installed the driver but I don't have direct rendering
[11:40] <jay> nevermind
[11:40] <jay> I found the lighter
[11:40] <sandhya> premier__: ok thanks
[11:41] <premier__> sandhya: yeah, save the saved session, not as "sandhya" but as "defualt"
[11:41] <sandhya> ah!
[11:42] <premier__> sandhya: there should be one called file browser or something... save it to that
[11:42] <premier__> my mistake
[11:42] <sandhya> premier__: ah, cool!
[11:42] <premier__> bozz_: hmm... I'm assuming your trying to run 3d things and you get bad framerates?  or did you do "fglrxinfo"?
[11:42] <sandhya> thanks a lot!
[11:43] <sandhya> I am going to restart this computer
[11:43] <sandhya> thanks again!
[11:43] <premier__> sandhya!
[11:43] <premier__> ack!
[11:43] <premier__> restart the whole computer?   what a waste
[11:43] <bozz_> premier_: yes fglrxinfo told me, I want to install Beryl project if you heard about that
[11:43] <premier__> bozz_: yeah, beryls pretty cool, but I have a radeon like you and its a bitch... I hate ati
[11:44] <jay> my sound isn't working
[11:44] <jay> hm...
[11:44] <xlinux_> i have one annoying problem with KDE
[11:44] <premier__> hmm... did you try to go through troubleshooting
[11:44] <jay> well, I shouldn't say that
[11:44] <jay> the sound is working
[11:44] <premier__> !ohmy | premier_
[11:44] <ubotu> premier_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:44] <xlinux_> ive been working linux well for like 3 months, but I still havent figured this one out
[11:44] <jay> I just can't get a linein/mic to work
[11:44] <premier__> xlinux_: shoot
[11:44] <premier__> !ask
[11:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:44] <bozz_> premier_: I was trying to look for the solution with no luck :(
[11:45] <premier__> ubotu is so fun
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is so fun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <premier__> lol ubotu
[11:45] <bozz_> premier_: do you have Beryl installed?
[11:46] <premier__> bozz_: I got it working once, but I never made it my primary desktop
[11:46] <premier__> bozz_: I'm still trying to find someone to fix *my* beryl issue
[11:46] <premier__> its worse than yours
[11:46] <premier__> but, can you give more detail?
[11:46] <xlinux_> premier, sorry, trying to help others...
[11:47] <bozz_> premier_: well I don't have it installed yet, because direct rendering is off
[11:47] <premier__> did anything happen differently than it should in the tutorial?
[11:47] <bozz_> nope
[11:47] <premier__> hmmm....
[11:47] <premier__> thats a toughie
[11:47] <premier__> did you restart X/
[11:47] <xlinux_> premier: conky is never transparent at startup- I have to manually change the wallpaper
[11:47] <premier__> ?
[11:47] <bozz_> yeah I did
[11:47] <premier__> xlinux_: what do you mean?
[11:48] <jay> what was that editor thing again?
[11:48] <premier__> bozz_: all I can think of is to try againg, maybe reboot the whole computer... otherwise, I have no clue
[11:48] <premier__> the guys at #beryl might be more help
[11:48] <bozz_> hmm thx
[11:48] <premier__> jay: which editor?  kate?
[11:49] <xlinux_> conky isnt transparent.. its  a big black box on my screen. If I open configure desktop and change the wallpaper, it turns transparent
[11:49] <jay> no
[11:49] <premier__> xlinux_: are you using beryl or compiz?
[11:49] <xlinux_> premier.. take your time.. I know the pain of trying to multitask
[11:49] <jay> the one whats his name said to use because kate wasn't working
[11:49] <premier__> whats conky?
[11:49] <premier__> kwrite
[11:49] <xlinux_> yes, but I dont have beryl enabled at startup
[11:49] <premier__> I'm a kwrite user... its lighter
[11:49] <xlinux_> conkys freeking awesome...
[11:50] <xlinux_> hold on, ill post a link
[11:50] <xlinux_> http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[11:50] <premier__> xlinux_: I just saw chobits, so now I want my computer to make wirring and clicking noises when the processor is in use... trying to figure out how I'd do that
[11:51] <jay> it was an in terminal editor
[11:51] <premier__> xlinux_: man, thats awesome... I don't much like desktop widgets, but I might get this one
[11:51] <premier__> is there a .deb package?
[11:52] <xlinux_> yes
[11:52] <premier__> jay: within the emulator?
[11:52] <xlinux_> you can install it with the terminal too
[11:52] <premier__> xlinux_: apt-get?
[11:52] <jay> nevermind
[11:52] <SharpRazoR> need help people, I don't have connection to the repositories although I had before??
[11:52] <xlinux_> yeah.. i believe so.. lemme check
[11:52] <premier__> xlinux_: if you want to sound cool, you can say its "in the repos"
[11:53] <xlinux_> i know
[11:53] <xlinux_> lol
[11:53] <SharpRazoR> please anyone??
[11:53] <xlinux_> i dont really need to sound cool, as long as you get the point
[11:54] <premier__> SharpRazoR: sorry
[11:54] <premier__> SharpRazoR: could you tell me more about your problem?
[11:54] <xlinux_> premier... considering you havent tried it, youll prolly be in the same boat as me.. unless you use black wallpaper
[11:54] <SharpRazoR> Adept Updater shows that there are updates
[11:54] <premier__> xlinux_: ah... I don't really care
[11:54] <premier__> xl
[11:55] <premier__> xlinux_: actually, I use a desktop slideshow
[11:55] <xlinux_> I bet that takes some RAM
[11:55] <SharpRazoR> but when in adept updater or adept manager, I see only installed programs
[11:55] <premier__> xlinux_: I have a lot
[11:56] <SharpRazoR> it shows that connection has beed refused when trying to install something from terminal
[11:56] <xlinux_> speaking of the crappy thing known as adept, how can I switch to Synaptic
[11:56] <premier__> xlinux_: switch?  I mean, its really all the same, it all just calls apt-get to do the dirty work
[11:56] <xlinux_> premier... so do I, 2gigs worth.. where to find such a program?
[11:56] <premier__> xlinux_: its part of kdebase... just go into the desktop config window
[11:57] <premier__> SharpRazoR: hmm... could you pastebin your repos?
[11:57] <premier__> SharpRazoR: I'm assuming you don't know what I'm talking about
[11:57] <xlinux_> I dont know.. with synaptic I could "kinda" know what I was looking for, and I could find it. With adept, I cant find it unless I spell it EXACTLY right, etc...
[11:57] <SharpRazoR> oh by the way, it tries to connect to 127.0.0.1 IP but what the hell for?? and after that it surprisingly says connection refused:)
[11:58] <premier__> SharpRazoR: thats weird
[11:58] <jay> okay
[11:58] <jay> I haev a problem
[11:58] <premier__> xlinux_: I just use apt-get + apt-cache
[11:58] <jay> where it says 'input source' on my sound mixer
[11:58] <xlinux_> apt-cache?
[11:58] <SharpRazoR> it says could not connect to localhost 127.0.0.1
[11:58] <premier__> SharpRazoR: go to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:58] <xlinux_> wow.. havent used that one...
[11:58] <jay> it just says line and there is no volume bar
[11:59] <SharpRazoR> yes?
[11:59] <haydar_> Anyone know
[11:59] <premier__> then copy and paste the contents to http://pastebin.com/
[11:59] <haydar_> how to fix this
[11:59] <haydar_> when i run the file /et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run)
[11:59] <haydar_> it starts with kate
[11:59] <premier__> SharpRazoR: then send me the link
[11:59] <Flamzart> hello im wondering if anyone here would be able to help me with an issue im having with getting kubuntu/ubuntu livecd/intall to work on my friends comp
[11:59] <haydar_> something with the premissions :S
[12:00] <SharpRazoR> but how?
[12:00] <premier__> haydar_: that means it has no idea what to do with it
[12:00] <haydar_> hmm
[12:00] <haydar_> its a .run file
[12:00] <SharpRazoR> properties and tick as executable
[12:00] <premier__> SharpRazoR: go to the site, and theres a big text box, right?
[12:00] <haydar_> worked
[12:00] <haydar_> thx
[12:01] <SharpRazoR> eee right?
[12:01] <premier__> xlinux_: type "apt-cache <search>" and it will show you all sorts of packages
[12:01] <premier__> for example, type "apt-cache search snes" and you can see snes emulators
[12:01] <haydar_> is it wise to install it with sudo
[12:01] <haydar_> or normal user?
[12:01] <haydar_> i'm installing it with normal user
[12:02] <premier__> SharpRazoR: copy and paste the file to that box, then click the button
[12:02] <xlinux_> hmmm.. nice
[12:02] <premier__> that says send
[12:02] <premier__> haydar_: usually you have to install stuff with sudo
[12:02] <xlinux_> I really dont use apt-anything that often. I usually shoot for aptitude
[12:02] <premier__> haydar_: its not that bad, just don't be haphazard
[12:02] <SharpRazoR> ok ok
[12:03] <xlinux_> maybe im prejudiced, but ive heard aptitude is better
[12:03] <premier__> don't type sudo rm -fR * or something like that
[12:03] <SharpRazoR> but the problem is that I can install stuff only because I put my Feisty DVD as a repository
[12:03] <premier__> xlinux_: I think I've heard that too
[12:03] <premier__> xlinux_: but apt-get works everytime for me, so I don't question it
[12:03] <SharpRazoR> normally I have some like 20k distros to install when having full access to repos
[12:03] <jay> i just want sound with this tv tuner card
[12:03] <jay> :(
[12:03] <premier__> SharpRazoR: well, delete it, and you should be okay
[12:04] <jay> stupid linein/mic not working
[12:04] <premier__> jay: I'm really not able to help you... you can go to #ubuntu, or try the forums, or just try again later
[12:05] <premier__> "sudo rm -fR *"?  that sounds fun... lets try it!
[12:05] <premier__> don't do that!
[12:05] <premier__> you can seriously delete your entire hard drive
[12:06] <SharpRazoR> doesn't work, I'm thinking about reinstalling whole system, for the 20th time )
[12:06] <jay> I know
[12:06] <jay> I'm just whining
[12:06] <jay> you've never had a good whine?
[12:07] <premier__> SharpRazoR: well, idk, but if you come back when someone more educated is around... I've only been using linux for 6 mo, this is the first time I've help out on #kubuntu
[12:08] <premier__> SharpRazoR: just be a little paitient... but if you want to uninstall, cannonical ltd isn't going to stop you
[12:08] <premier__> !gpl
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[12:08] <premier__> !gnu
[12:08] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[12:08] <premier__> !wine
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[12:08] <premier__> ubotu is fun!
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[12:08] <premier__> !bill gates
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[12:08] <premier__> !anything
[12:08] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[12:09] <premier__> lollercoaster!
[12:10] <premier__> !nothing
[12:10] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[12:11] <premier__> !error
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[12:11] <Flamzart> has anyone had a probelm with the livecd hanging with a blinking cursor after it has taken its time going thru the kubunto loading splash screen
[12:11] <premier__> Flamzart: hmm... thats a toughie
[12:11] <premier__> Flamzart: you sure its not just loading stuff?
[12:11] <premier__> Flamzart: have you gotten it to boot before?
[12:12] <premier__> Flamzart: also, how much ram do you have?
[12:12] <Flamzart> useds the same cd to install it on my comp
[12:12] <Flamzart> also ran the cd test in the compp in qustion
[12:13] <Flamzart> so its not a cd-drive or bad cd issue
[12:13] <premier__> Flamzart: so ubuntu is already installed?
[12:13] <premier__> !proprietary
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proprietary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <premier__> !closed source
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about closed source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <premier__> !open source
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[12:14] <Flamzart> on my comp its installed and running, on my friends comp all he has is winxp and some unpartitiond space
[12:15] <premier__> oh, so this is on your freinds cd?
[12:15] <premier__> computer, i mean
[12:15] <Flamzart> yep
[12:15] <premier__> how much ram does he have?  thats a major part of success at liveCDS
[12:15] <premier__> since it has to store an entire OS on the ram
[12:15] <Flamzart> 512 mb,  700mhz celron
[12:16] <premier__> I'm sorry, I gotta go to bed everyone
[12:16] <premier__> Flamzart: not sure, that should be plenty
[12:16] <Flamzart> k
[12:17] <Flamzart> cya if ya off
[12:17] <premier__> Flamzart: getting a liveCD to work is substantially harder that getting it to work off the hard drive... what are your goals in booting the liveCD?  there is an "alternate install CD" if that helps
[12:17] <premier__> its text based though
[12:18] <Flamzart> im just wondering, if, its normal to hang with a cuser like that on a slow kit, and if theres another way to install without having to load the OS from the livecd
[12:18] <premier__> well, Flamzart, maybe try again tommarow... this forum is more popular between about 7-12ish american time
[12:18] <premier__> Flamzart: thats what the alternate install cd is for
[12:18] <premier__> you should be able to find it on the kubuntu website
[12:19] <premier__> !kubuntu
[12:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:19] <premier__> !KDE
[12:19] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[12:19] <premier__> !play!
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about play! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <premier__> ubotu play with me!
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about play with me! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <premier__> !anything
[12:19] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[12:19] <premier__> alright, good night
[12:20] <Flamzart> gn
[12:25] <xlinux_> hello?
[12:26] <Flamzart> yo
[12:27] <xlinux_> you know anything about crappy Phoenix BIOS?
[12:30] <Flamzart> what do u ned to do with it
[12:30] <dakoki> hi!
[12:30] <dakoki> someone knows the name of the taskbar applet that has 3 small bars which indicates the memoy cpu and swap?
[12:31] <lupul> which is the group with the least permissions?
[12:31] <lupul> dakoki try superkaramba
[12:31] <nicolai_> Hey
[12:32] <iarwain_> lupul: a user with only read-access?
[12:32] <nicolai_> I have some files on my external harddrive with "ubuntu (999)" set as owner
[12:32] <nicolai_> I got this from copying files using the live-cd
[12:33] <nicolai_> How do I change it to "nicolai (1000)"?
[12:33] <lupul> yes
[12:33] <iarwain_> nicolai_: "sudo chown nicolai:nicolai" would be my guess
[12:34] <iarwain_> nicolai_: oh, add a -R to the chown ;)
[12:34] <Jacko2007> I have lost my K-Menu button for WineFile and all of the other wine stuff yet I still have wine installed
[12:34] <Jacko2007> I have tried reinstalling wine
[12:34] <iarwain_> lupul: so you just make a user, give him his home dir, and only give him read-access
[12:35] <haydar_> Anyone got a good radio station
[12:35] <haydar_> with music on it
[12:35] <haydar_> bored:(
[12:35] <iarwain_> haydar_: last.fm ?
[12:35] <lupul> yes but how do i give him only read access?
[12:35] <haydar_> :D
[12:35] <Jacko2007> haydar_ if your from the UK galaxymanchester.co.uk
[12:35] <iarwain_> lupul: checking it aswell =) i don't actually know that ;o
[12:35] <lupul> and i want to give him read access to the dir i gave him
[12:35] <dakoki> lupul im not talking about superkaramba,  its an applet form de taskbar
[12:35] <lupul> aham. ok
[12:36] <dakoki> i think its quite cool but i dont fin it
[12:36] <dakoki> find
[12:36] <aleksanteri> i unlock the panels but can't see the "handles" that allow me to move the applets
[12:36] <aleksanteri> what's wrong?
 are You there?
[12:37] <iarwain_> lupul: i'd deny him access from all other secondary groups, and chmod the map to only reading
[12:37] <nicolai_> iarwain: didn't seem to work :/
[12:37] <Jacko2007> I have lost my K-Menu button for WineFile and all of the other wine stuff yet I still have wine installed
[12:37] <Jacko2007> haydar_ if your from the UK galaxymanchester.co.uk
[12:37] <lupul> i did that
[12:37] <iarwain_> nicolai_: did you get any errors? (btw, type my name fully or otherwise i won't see it highlighted ^^ )
[12:37] <lupul> thanks
[12:38] <iarwain_> lupul: so it works now? =)
[12:38] <Jacko2007> aleksanteri, have you unlocked the panels?
[12:38] <lupul> yes it does
[12:38] <aleksanteri> Jacko2007: yes
[12:38] <iarwain_> lupul: good to hear =)
[12:38] <lupul> i just removed the secondary groups
[12:38] <Jacko2007> aleksanteri, no idea then sorry
[12:38] <Jacko2007> lol
[12:38] <aleksanteri> lol i said i "unlock them but can't see the handles" :P
[12:39] <lupul> i made a ftp server with proftpd.  i made an user with a password so that my friends could log into my computer to download stuff
[12:39] <nicolai_> iarwain_: no error. I only tried it on one file, so that might be the reason?
[12:39] <lupul> but they could also erase files
[12:39] <lupul> that's why i was a little nervous
[12:39] <dakoki> i got it  its system monitor from kdeaddons pack
[12:39] <Jacko2007> anyone any ideas to get my wine buttons back in the k menu?
[12:39] <iarwain_> nicolai_: you got no error, but it didn't work? strange.. can you pastebin a "ls -lah" after you executed the chown command?
[12:40] <iarwain_> lupul: it's better to double-check stuff before letting others allowing access to your pc (or server) xD
[12:41] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: just a dumb hunch, but could you back-up your ~/.wine and do a "wineprefixcreate"?
[12:41] <lupul> i know that now
[12:41] <lupul> thanks
[12:41] <aleksanteri> iarwain_: you have an idea?
[12:41] <Jacko2007> iarwait, english?! lol
[12:41] <iarwain_> lol =)
[12:41] <Jacko2007> iarwait, english?! lol?
[12:41] <Jacko2007> oops
[12:41] <Jacko2007> How I do that?
[12:41] <aleksanteri> iarwain_: you have any idea why handlers can't be seen although the panels are unlocked? :P
[12:41] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: so, back-up your ~/.wine, do you know how to?
[12:42] <Jacko2007> not a clue lol
[12:42] <iarwain_> aleksanteri: could be that you (or something other) disabled the handlers to be seen? could you check your desktop thing settings? (don't know the actual names, sorry)
[12:42] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: can you work with the terminal?
[12:43] <Jacko2007> I have previously
[12:43] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: you can handle terminal commands? (actually just copy-pasting, but asking to be sure)
[12:43] <aleksanteri> iarwain_: it's kinda hard to look if i don't know where :P but i'll try
[12:43] <iarwain_> aleksanteri: i'll look for it too =)
[12:43] <Jacko2007> iarwain yup
[12:43] <Jacko2007> easy lol
[12:44] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: good, open up a terminal
[12:44] <Jacko2007> I'm there ;)
[12:44] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: cp .wine .wine_backup
[12:44] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: didn't work here, sorry
[12:44] <aleksanteri> found it!
[12:44] <aleksanteri> ! *
[12:44] <Jacko2007> cp: omitting directory `.wine'
[12:44] <Flamzart> has anyone here had an issue with ktorrent where it crashed when a new torrent was added becasue there was a problem with the tempory downlaod directory
[12:45] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: ad a -R to the cp command
[12:45] <iarwain_> aleksanteri: so it's solved?
[12:45] <aleksanteri> yeah
[12:45] <iarwain_> aleksanteri: great =)
[12:45] <aleksanteri> iarwain_: panel settings -> look -> advanced settings
[12:45] <Jacko2007> so cd -R...?
[12:45] <aleksanteri> it's there
[12:45] <aleksanteri> :)
[12:45] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: cp -R
[12:45] <iarwain_> aleksanteri: great to hear it works =)
[12:45] <aleksanteri> :)
[12:46] <nicolai_> iarwain_: it told me I had access, but KDE claimed otherwise
[12:46] <Jacko2007> it's doing something
[12:46] <Tiwaz> hello, just a question, because I don't know if the problem is global or for my config : In Konqueror (filemanager mode), when your cursor is on a file, a description appear (in yellow). If you move your mouse and then, the description disappear, so, I have a ?refresh(very fast redraw of all icon)? effect on the konqueror windows.
[12:46] <iarwain_> nicolai_: sooooo, you tried with the sudo before your command right?
[12:46] <Jacko2007> done
[12:46] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: great
[12:46] <nicolai_> iarwain_: After I unmounted/remounted it seems like KDE also accepts me as owner
[12:46] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: now do a "wineprefixcreate"
[12:47] <Jacko2007> iarwain it's doing it
[12:47] <iarwain_> nicolai_: is it solved then? (don't really understand)
[12:47] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: good
[12:47] <Jacko2007> err:module:import_dll Library vct3216.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\vct3216.acm") not found
[12:47] <Jacko2007> /home/oliver/.wine updated successfully.
[12:47] <Jacko2007> err:module:import_dll Library vct3216.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\vct3216.acm") not found
[12:47] <Jacko2007> /home/oliver/.wine updated successfully.
[12:47] <Jacko2007> oops sorry for double post
[12:47] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: can you check your menu now? (don't worry =) )
[12:47] <Jacko2007> not there
[12:47] <nicolai_> iarwain_: jep. I only need to know if this works for subdirectories as well
[12:48] <JohnFlux> !scim
[12:48] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[12:48] <iarwain_> nicolai_: jup, that's why there's a "-R" to the command =)
[12:48] <nicolai_> iarwain_: I have a bad history of rushing commands :P
[12:48] <nicolai_> ahh
[12:48] <nicolai_> ok
[12:48] <iarwain_> nicolai_: so basically you just "sudo chown -R nicolai:nicolai dir_name"
[12:48] <iarwain_> nicolai_: rofl xD
[12:48] <Jacko2007> iarwain where is the actual aplication name?
[12:49] <Jacko2007> application file*
[12:49] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: of what ? don't understand ;o
[12:49] <Jacko2007> like in windows it has a .exe file
[12:49] <Jacko2007> does linuxhave the same thing?
[12:49] <nicolai_> iarwain_: I really appreciate your help. this problem had me up all night in frustration. Thanks :)
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> Jacko2007: application executables are usually stored in either /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[12:50] <iarwain_> nicolai_: no problem, i know how frustrating those things can be ^^ ( i just lost about 200GB of data -_-' )
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> those directories are the equivalent of Windows' "Program Files"
[12:50] <Jacko2007> thanks
[12:51] <nicolai_> iarwain_: That is roughly the same amount I thought I had lost yesterday. :/
[12:51] <iarwain_> nicolai_: damn .. well, i'm trying to get it back actually =)
[12:51] <Jacko2007> I was easier when I hd my k menu shortcut
[12:52] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: what also could be a problem is that KDE needs to be restarted (not really sure about that one, but it's a guess)
[12:52] <Jacko2007> I will try that
[12:52] <nicolai_> iarwain_: in my case it was because i lost read access (something with recursive chmod) to all these files i didn't own.
[12:53] <iarwain_> nicolai_: you lucky ** xD i lost a partition and my /etc/ files ;o
[12:54] <haydar_> hmm
[12:54] <haydar_> something strange happend
[12:54] <haydar_> the xorg conf
[12:55] <haydar_> reset the screenresolution 2 640x480
[12:55] <haydar_> dont know why
[12:55] <haydar_> after reboot
[12:55] <haydar_> i fixed it again -.-
[12:55] <iarwain_> haydar_: just a dumb question, but did you edit as root? and saved it?
[12:56] <sylar> anyone programs Delphi?
[12:56] <Jacko2007> didn't work
[12:56] <haydar_> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:56] <haydar_> thats why i typed
[12:56] <haydar_> sudo = root?
[12:57] <iarwain_> haydar_: jup, correct
[12:57] <lupul> does anyone know how do i start a program on the target machine via ssh?
[12:57] <haydar_> Just stange xD
[12:57] <Jacko2007> iarwain: didn't work :(
[12:57] <iarwain_> lupul: what program would you like to start? graphical, terminal, .. ?
[12:57] <lupul> graphical
[12:57] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: am thinking about it =)
[12:57] <lupul> ktorrent oftenly dies. so i'd like to start it from work
[12:57] <iarwain_> lupul: do a ssh -X server_name
[12:58] <iarwain_> lupul: that way the graphical window is started on your machine, and not on the server
[12:58] <lupul> but i want to start it on the server
[12:59] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: what about this? http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2007-February/035957.html
[12:59] <haydar_> Hmm got a problem with playing music
[12:59] <haydar_> i got music on the network
[12:59] <lupul> at home i have feisty. and i leave it to download but ktorrent dies after about 30 minutes.  so i want to start it again from another place
[12:59] <haydar_> when i open it with vlc
[12:59] <haydar_> or amarok
[12:59] <haydar_> i dont have any sound
[12:59] <haydar_> nor the file plays
[12:59] <iarwain_> lupul: problem is, (haven't found a fix for that aswell) if you close your ssh-session, the program will close aswell
[12:59] <lupul> aham....
[01:00] <iarwain_> haydar_: can you start vlc via terminal, and see if you get any errors?
[01:00] <haydar_> lets see
[01:02] <haydar_> hmm wt
[01:02] <haydar_> f
[01:02] <Jacko2007> iarwain, I get what it says but I can't do it if that makes sense
[01:02] <haydar_> now it works
[01:02] <haydar_> via terminal
[01:03] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: why can't you do it? (do you know what to do?)
[01:03] <Jacko2007> no
[01:03] <iarwain_> haydar_: so now you are able to play sound etc?
[01:03] <Jacko2007> I read it
[01:03] <Jacko2007> I know what I want I jus can't find where wine.menu is
[01:04] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: did you add the menu item? (editing the K-menu)
[01:04] <Jacko2007> no
[01:04] <haydar_> yep
[01:04] <Jacko2007> I lost the k menu icon
[01:04] <haydar_> it plays
[01:04] <haydar_> without a error
[01:05] <Jacko2007> that's my problem
[01:05] <iarwain_> haydar_: can you try without terminal now? =)
[01:05] <haydar_> Ok lets see
[01:05] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: so you don't have ANY menu now?
[01:05] <Jacko2007> I have a menu
[01:05] <Jacko2007> I'm just missing the wine section
[01:05] <haydar_> it plays
[01:05] <haydar_> <3
[01:05] <Jacko2007> like just the wine section
[01:06] <Jacko2007> like just wine
[01:06] <Jacko2007> (sorry if you can't make sense of that it made sense in my head)
[01:06] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: well, i don't have a wine menu aswell, but i don't have any programs installed..
[01:06] <iarwain_> haydar_: nwly ^^
[01:06] <haydar_> well
[01:06] <haydar_> sound is really
[01:06] <haydar_> low
[01:06] <iarwain_> haydar_: in vlc?
[01:06] <haydar_> i Puted on max
[01:07] <xlinux_> you wont until you install a game
[01:07] <haydar_> and bass is also
[01:07] <haydar_> cracking
[01:07] <Jacko2007> I don't mean a wine menu
[01:07] <Jacko2007> I meant like I don't have the link to run Wine
[01:07] <Jacko2007> at all
[01:07] <mete> hi, have I to unplug all of my usb devices before boot??? because my usb drive stop responding when boot with usb devices plugged
[01:07] <xlinux_> its not graphical
[01:07] <iarwain_> haydar_: that's a known thing, just set your vlc sound to about half (or just beneath it) and turn up your speakers
[01:08] <haydar_> thx
[01:08] <xlinux_> type 'wine regedit' in the terminal
[01:08] <haydar_> but
[01:08] <haydar_> still
[01:08] <haydar_> sound is really
[01:08] <haydar_> low
[01:08] <haydar_> i putted on max
[01:08] <haydar_> @ kmix
[01:08] <iarwain_> mete: it could be (if your bios supported booting from usb)
[01:08] <asdf> hi, after having a system crash, kde decoration and toolbar disappeared. Even rebooting they don't appear. What could be the problem?
[01:08] <iarwain_> haydar_: can't you turn up your speakers with a actual button (a hardware button so to speak)
[01:08] <angasule> what's that program that allows one to configure KDE so that it uses more/less resources?
[01:09] <mete> no, my bios to old to support booting :D
[01:09] <asdf> what is the app that can restore the window decoration and toolbar, btw?
[01:09] <mete> thnx iarwain_
[01:09] <aleksanteri> asdf: kwin
[01:09] <iarwain_> mete: lol, then i don't know what could be causing the problem. Maybe you can try to boot in verbose mode?
[01:09] <xlinux_> angasule, havent heard of that
[01:09] <aleksanteri> asdf: you might want to create a desktop launcher for that :P
[01:10] <Jacko2007> how do I execute wine programs for teminal
[01:10] <asdf> aleksanteri, thanks, but, what about the toolbar?
[01:10] <xlinux_> Jacko2007: did the wine registry show up?
[01:10] <mete> hmm
[01:10] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: wine path_to_program
[01:10] <Jacko2007> xlinux_ yes
[01:10] <aleksanteri> asdf: sec
[01:10] <Jacko2007> iarwain that doesn't work
[01:10] <asdf> aleksanteri, the desktop launcher exists :). The problem it's that it doesn't work as expected
[01:11] <aleksanteri> oh
[01:11] <mete> uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: host system error, PCI problems?
[01:11] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: what do you get as error?
[01:11] <mete> uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: host controller halted, very bad!
[01:11] <iarwain_> mete: ;o that's over my head =) sorry
[01:11] <Jacko2007> wine '/home/oliver/Desktop/SteamInstall.msi' exec
[01:11] <Jacko2007> wine: could not load L"Z:\\home\\oliver\\Desktop\\SteamInstall.msi": Bad EXE format for
[01:11] <mete> :D no problem, thnx 4 help
[01:11] <asdf> sec? what is sec?
[01:12] <xlinux_> you have to run the exe dont you?
[01:12] <asdf> i don't have it installed. But... kde toolbar was working without "sec" before :P
[01:12] <angasule> asdf: I believe he means 'wait a second'
[01:12] <iarwain_> Jacko2007: i don't know if msi is supported ;o
[01:12] <Jacko2007> damn
[01:12] <Jacko2007> I need to sintalling steam
[01:12] <asdf> angasule... oops, hehe
[01:13] <Jacko2007> nvm then I will attack it again tommorow
[01:13] <xlinux_> larwain... where is the exe's stored again? i dont have wine on this insstall
[01:14] <sylar> delphi in linux, anyone?
[01:14] <xlinux_> isnt it like .wine > path-to-prog
[01:14] <llp> Could anyone tell me of a good irc client to use? I am using Konversation is it anygood is there a better one to use?>
[01:14] <iarwain_> xlinux_: in ~/.wine/drive_c/
[01:14] <xlinux_> yeah.. thats it
[01:14] <iarwain_> xlinux_: just 'wine path_to_program/programname' is enough =)
[01:15] <angasule> llp: I find konversation to be an excellent irc client for chatting, or do you want a bot or something?
[01:15] <xlinux_> what exactly is an msi?
[01:15] <iarwain_> sylar: don't know anything about it, sorry
[01:15] <iarwain_> xlinux_: another kind of Microsoft's executables (i think it's more of a compressed file)
[01:15] <llp> angasule: just want a nice easy irc client to use - this seems very basic imo
[01:15] <angasule> xlinux_: microsoft installer?
[01:16] <nicolai_> iarwain_: My only problem now is that I have no idea what to do with the 'lost+found' folder (ext3-drive). Do you know how priviledges etc should be for that?
[01:16] <iarwain_> nicolai_: checking =)
[01:16] <angasule> llp: what do you want to do?
[01:16] <iarwain_> nicolai_: lost+found is root:root on my pc
[01:17] <llp> angasule: just for chatting what about all the different color text etc
[01:17] <nicolai_> iarwain_: and permissions? read write etc.?
[01:17] <iarwain_> anyone know of a program that searches your hard-drive for partitions? ( i just lost a partition and qtparted crashes)
[01:17] <asdf> restored. It appeared by pressing alt+f1
[01:17] <asdf> bye people, and thank you
[01:17] <iarwain_> nicolai_: only root has read/write
[01:19] <nicolai_> iarwain_: Have you tried the gnome version?
[01:19] <angasule> llp: colours are evil, but I guess you can enter them manually, I haven't tried
[01:19] <iarwain_> nicolai_: hmm, don't feel like downloading ;o lemme see
[01:20] <iarwain_> nicolai_: only 2mB, trying it now
[01:20] <nicolai_> iarwain_: In my experience it works better and for 200 GB I wouldn't mind the clutter :P
[01:20] <iarwain_> nicolai_: problem is, even testdisk doesn't find my partition
[01:21] <llp> angasule: ill just stick with konversation for now - cheers for the advice
[01:21] <iarwain_> nicolai_: rofl, gparted says my whole usb-attached hard drive is 'unallocated'
[01:21] <nicolai_> haha
[01:22] <iarwain_> anyone know of a partition scanner or a file recovery program?
[01:23] <aleksanteri> gddrescue?
[01:24] <iarwain_> aleksanteri: how does that work?
[01:24] <aleksanteri> idk i just used apt-cache search :P
[01:25] <iarwain_> aleksanteri: rofl =)
[01:25] <angasule> when I tried to update from edgy to feisty, adept told me it couldn't authenticate these packages: apport apport-qt python-apport python-problem-report tzdata
[01:29] <EyeVisions> !wave
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <arthur> salut  tous
[01:32] <arthur> vs savez mettre kdm en franais?
[01:33] <aleksanteri> !fr | arthur
[01:33] <ubotu> arthur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:33] <jussi01> !fr | arthur
[01:33] <jussi01> lol
[01:33] <aleksanteri> :P
[01:33] <iarwain_> arthur: va au K-menu, clickez sur 'System Settings'
[01:33] <aleksanteri> !fr | iarwain_
[01:33] <aleksanteri> :P
[01:33] <ubotu> iarwain_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:34] <iarwain_> rofl, i can speak english =)
[01:34] <aleksanteri> i know :)
[01:34] <jussi01> !en
[01:34] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:34] <iarwain_> !slap | aleksanteri
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <iarwain_> =)
[01:34] <aleksanteri> hah :P
[01:34] <jussi01> I win
[01:34] <iarwain_> arthur: encore ici?
[01:34] <aleksanteri> jussi01: how so?
[01:34] <rojanu>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Kevokef12
[01:34] <aleksanteri> uh
[01:34] <jussi01> !en | aleksanteri
[01:34] <ubotu> aleksanteri: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:35] <aleksanteri> jussi01: i speak english :P
[01:35] <jussi01> thats how i win... :D
[01:35] <FOAD> When I start my musicplayer (quodlibet) I get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:831:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to create IPC semaphore" (but sound still works). However when I try to start something else that uses sound (mplayer) when quodlibet is started, it hangs at the start.  Help?
[01:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[01:36] <jussi01> gah, kde-look is down
[01:36] <Originooo> jussi01: do you know the reason?
[01:37] <iarwain_> FOAD: try installing alsa-oss, if i remember correctly it should be able to play multiple sounds at the same time ;o
[01:37] <stamen> hi
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> hi
[01:38] <wsjunior> is there any way to store window settings with aquamarine? like size and placement
[01:38] <iarwain_> 1337 hour!!!!!! (sorry, it's stronger then myself)
[01:38] <jussi01> Originooo: no idea...
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> wsjunior: thats in bery,and yes you can.
[01:38] <FOAD> iarwain_: It is installed. :/
[01:38] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: how?!
[01:38] <stamen> can anybody help me to configure my sound card to duplicate the sound to be 5.1. I am with Creative Live! 5.1
[01:38] <iarwain_> FOAD: strange ;o don't know what could be it
[01:38] <FOAD> ok
[01:38] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: could u help me with this please?
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> its in the beryl settings manager
[01:39] <stamen> but can't make it work with the front surround, only center and buffer work and rear chanel
[01:39] <BluesKaj> alsa can play multiple sources or multi task
[01:39] <carlos> is kde-apps.org down?
[01:39] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: its opened but i cant find this configuration
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> wsjunior: yup just second..let me load berylmanager and see where it is
[01:39] <stamen> BluesKaj: ok, I agree but how to configure it
[01:39] <stamen> BluesKaj: to work with all channels
[01:39] <carlos> I can't even resolve the name.. :(
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> wsjunior: what version of beryl are you running?
[01:40] <wsjunior> beryl-core 0.2.0
[01:40] <BluesKaj> oh, surround sound , mine is the tv room , strictly stereo here
[01:41] <carlos> is there any good speech recognition app in kubuntu?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> wsjunior: ok... go into the beryl settings manager->Window management-> Set window attribs by various criteria
[01:42] <BluesKaj> ok i got it, the outputs are configged independently of the inputs
[01:42] <stamen> BluesKaj: I put this in asoundrc http://rafb.net/p/KtLyHe68.html
[01:43] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: ok
[01:43] <stamen> but the sound disappears after loging in, and xine says "can't find sound drivers"
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> wsjunior: its in there.. i've never done it before.. you gotta figure it out yourself... its not hard.
[01:44] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: now how do i save window size and placement for different windows? i think it isnt possible from there.
[01:44] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: ok, gonna try
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> wsjunior: Never having done it b4, i'm not sure... if you need more help go to #beryl
[01:47] <|lostbyte|> !x11_forward
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x11_forward - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <|lostbyte|> !x11forward
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x11forward - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <ubunturos> how does the file md5sum.txt file on a *buntu CD help in verifying the md5 checksum
[01:48] <ubunturos> ?
[01:49] <BluesKaj> stamen, try this site :http://www.pcauthority.com.au/print.aspx?CIID=21424&SIID=10
[01:49] <stamen> BluesKaj: ok
[01:49] <sercik> yesterday someone have asked a question about accessing ext3 filesystem from windows.. now i have tried a soultion very simply to do that: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:49] <|lostbyte|> ubunturos, by running an md5sum on the device the cd is on.
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> |lostbyte|: wht are yring to do?
[01:49] <PhinnFort> ubunturos: i think there's a program in the cd that checks the md5sums in that file against the md5sums of the files on the cd
[01:49] <|lostbyte|> It has to match with the md5sum hash in the file.
[01:49] <|lostbyte|> nosrednaekim, forward x11.
[01:50] <ubunturos> |lostbyte|: aah, so, it computes a md5sum for each file and compares it with the md5sum.txt file?
[01:50] <ubunturos> PhinnFort: in the CD? which one?
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> |lostbyte|: ok... there is a tool for that..RXDP comes to mind not sure if that is the right acronym.
[01:50] <PhinnFort> ubunturos: probably a script
[01:51] <ubunturos> PhinnFort: aah, ok
[01:51] <PhinnFort> ubunturos: i've never actually run it, so I
[01:51] <PhinnFort> 'm not entirely sure
[01:51] <|lostbyte|> nosrednaekim, huh ? i used to enable it as usually in the ssh_config  to     ForwardX11 yes, but doest forward x11 after a server reload.
[01:52] <ubunturos> |lostbyte|: if I create a ISO of a *buntu CD, and I mount the ISO in loop, and issue a diff command for the md5sum.txt file in the ISO and that in the CD
[01:52] <|lostbyte|> yes, i run xclock from konsole after ssh.
[01:52] <ubunturos> |lostbyte|: I'm comparing the integrity of the ISO (or verifying the ISO, in other words) ?
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> |lostbyte|: oh thats the ssh -x thing..I was talking about something else
[01:52] <ubunturos> PhinnFort: ok
[01:53] <PhinnFort> ubunturos: then you're comparing the files on the CD with the ones on the ISO
[01:53] <|lostbyte|> ubunturos, that is basically done when you choose to check cd at Cd boot.
[01:54] <ubunturos> PhinnFort, |lostbyte|: so, that means, if there are no differences, the ISO and files on the CD are exactly same -- no problem has occured while creating the ISO
[01:54] <PhinnFort> |lostbyte|: he's talking about comparing two different md5sum.txt's
[01:54] <|lostbyte|> nosrednaekim, that is how i did it before, but now i get. can't open display.
[01:54] <PhinnFort> or not...
[01:54] <ubunturos> PhinnFort: no, I'm compaing the files on the CD and that within the ISO
[01:54] <PhinnFort> ubunturos: you probably want the md5sum of the complete iso
[01:54] <ubunturos> PhinnFort: that's when I download it from the internet
[01:54] <|lostbyte|> ubunturos, yes, you got the idea.
[01:54] <PhinnFort> ubunturos: you can have K3B do it automatically
[01:55] <haydar_> iarwin i cant
[01:55] <haydar_> its at the max
[01:55] <ubunturos> PhinnFort: ok
[01:55] <ubunturos> |lostbyte|: ok
[01:55] <PhinnFort> ubunturos: there's a checkbox called "check integrity after burning" or something similar
[01:55] <sercik> Hi to all!
[01:55] <|lostbyte|> PhinnFort, that takes a whole lot of time.
[01:55] <ubunturos> PhinnFort: yes, verify data
[01:56] <PhinnFort> |lostbyte|: but it's the only way to ensure the integrity of the cd
[01:56] <sercik> someone have installed win2k under kubuntu?? i' m not able to use a bridge on guest OS
[01:56] <PhinnFort> |lostbyte|: and it's quicker than running the in-cd tool
[01:56] <ubunturos> PhinnFort, |lostbyte|: thanks
[01:56] <PhinnFort> yw
[01:57] <ubunturos> sercik: running a virtual machine?
[01:57] <sercik> hi ubunturos
[01:57] <sercik> yes
[01:57] <mohsin> hi brothers
[01:57] <Insurgent> Ello
[01:57] <sercik> i have succesfully installed win2k in it works audio video usb etc..
[01:57] <PhinnFort> sercik: which virtual machine software?
[01:57] <haydar_> Anyone knows
[01:58] <haydar_> how to get volume higher
[01:58] <sercik> only i can't find a guide simply that explain hot to create the bridge
[01:58] <PhinnFort> qemu, virtualbox, or?
[01:58] <Yonderb0y> Can someone help me out with apt-get?
[01:58] <mohsin> hay can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu
[01:58] <mohsin> hay can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu
[01:58] <mohsin> hay can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu
[01:58] <mohsin> hay can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu
[01:58] <PhinnFort> haydar_: there's a little speaker in the lower right corner
[01:58] <sercik> PhinnFort i have quemu and also virtualbox
[01:58] <haydar_> yep i dont mean that :P
[01:58] <Yonderb0y> mohsin, Dont fucking spam
[01:58] <haydar_> higher then possible
[01:58] <PhinnFort> sercik: and you want internet access?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> !language
[01:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:58] <PhinnFort> !spam
[01:58] <sercik> but i think that my question in not especially for a software
[01:58] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[01:58] <haydar_> because on windows
[01:58] <mohsin> okay brother
[01:58] <haydar_> i can hear alot harder
[01:58] <haydar_> its on max already
[01:58] <haydar_> and i hear almost nothing
[01:58] <haydar_> on kubuntu
[01:58] <PhinnFort> haydar_: from what?
[01:58] <mohsin> i am just asking  can any one tell me that how to install third party software on kubuntu
[01:59] <ubunturos> haydar_: you physical speaker volume?
[01:59] <PriceChild> !enter | haydar_
[01:59] <ubotu> haydar_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:59] <LjL> mohsin: not by flooding this channel
[01:59] <PhinnFort> !volume
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volume - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <haydar_> sorry
[01:59] <LjL> mohsin: *what* third party software?
[01:59] <|lostbyte|> !apt-get > mohsin
[01:59] <ubunturos> !apt-get | mohsin
[01:59] <ubotu> mohsin: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:59] <PhinnFort> haydar_: what do you use to play sound?
[01:59] <mohsin> thanks dear
[01:59] <sercik> my question is about tun/tap and bridge i think
[01:59] <haydar_> vlc atm
[01:59] <haydar_> even the kubuntu sounds are really soft
[01:59] <PhinnFort> haydar_: have you tried other audio apps?
[02:00] <haydar_> yes
[02:00] <PhinnFort> haydar_: open the mixers
[02:00] <PhinnFort> haydar_: adjust "pcm"
[02:00] <haydar_> ok i'll look
[02:00] <sercik> i have a pc on which run a linux distribution with two networks card (eth0 internet, eth1 lan)
[02:00] <Yonderb0y> Would someone help me with apt-get? it's a  bit of a problem, so would ya mind doing it in /msg?
[02:00] <manwithaface> !kmix | haydar_
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <PhinnFort> haydar_: left-click on the speaker and click "mixers"
[02:00] <haydar_> Yep i already know that :)
[02:01] <PhinnFort> !qemu
[02:01] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:01] <sercik> on one internal pc i have installed linux and want to install also win2k and configure a network with bridge
[02:01] <ubunturos> Youerb0y: what is the problem ?
[02:01] <mohsin> by apt-get we can just update our system from kubuntu web
[02:01] <PhinnFort> sercik: it's usually "forwarding" you want (in realspeak;))
[02:01] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, Mind if i msg you?
[02:01] <mohsin> if i downloaded some pacakages from other web how can i install them
[02:01] <sercik> PhinnFort i don't understand what do you mean??
[02:02] <mohsin> just like *.rpm
[02:02] <ubunturos> Younderb0y: no, but I'm not sure how good I will be in helping you out :)
[02:02] <PhinnFort> sercik: it isn't called a bridge
[02:02] <PhinnFort> sercik: and please look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:02] <haydar_> ok sound
[02:02] <jorunnm> how do i turn up sound, when everythin is max, both in kmix and in the programme?
[02:02] <PhinnFort> sercik: and scroll down to "Networking"
[02:02] <haydar_> is better now :D
[02:02] <|lostbyte|> mohsin, dpkg -i <file.deb>
[02:02] <manwithaface> !alien | mohsin
[02:02] <ubotu> mohsin: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:02] <haydar_> but xmms cant play any files on the network
[02:02] <PhinnFort> haydar_: use Amarok or Juk or Noatun
[02:02] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, I'm getting E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[02:02] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:02] <haydar_> ;) thx
[02:03] <haydar_> for the help
[02:03] <PhinnFort> you're welcome;)
[02:03] <jorunnm> how do I increase the volume settings in alsa?
[02:03] <PhinnFort> haydar_: Noatun is a really nice replacement for xmms
[02:03] <jorunnm> can I config alsa?
[02:03] <monzie> hi all
[02:03] <haydar_> does it need codecs?
[02:03] <|lostbyte|> jorunnm, alsamixer
[02:03] <PhinnFort> !info alsa-utils | jorunnm
[02:03] <ubotu> jorunnm: alsa-utils: ALSA utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.13-1ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 1026 kB, installed size 1848 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[02:04] <PhinnFort> haydar_: i don't believe so
[02:04] <monzie> i have connected my laptop to moblie phone.. and am able to access the internet
[02:04] <PhinnFort> haydar_: but if you're serious about listening to music, I highly recommend amarok;)
[02:04] <haydar_> hmm ill try noatun
[02:04] <haydar_> Yep i'm trying with amarok
[02:04] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: ah, is your sources.lst a valid one?
[02:04] <haydar_> but it gives me an error
[02:04] <haydar_> smb://uw-6rspzydfvpyj/Mp3/s.mp3smb://uw-6rspzydfvpyj/Mp3/s.mp3
[02:04] <haydar_> thats the file i wanna play
[02:04] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, How do i check?
[02:05] <haydar_> maybe the problem @ network
[02:05] <PhinnFort> haydar_: that looks like several files
[02:05] <monzie> i want to share my internet connection on my laptop with my desktop. please help.. i have pppd running on my laptop right now
[02:05] <haydar_> it only works on vlcs
[02:05] <haydar_> aah know :P copypasted 2 much
[02:05] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: are you able to get other softwares installed, apart from the one you are currently trying to?
[02:05] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:05] <haydar_> Demux-plugin
[02:05] <haydar_> error
[02:05] <haydar_> hmm
[02:05] <PhinnFort> haydar_: i don't really know what your problem is, since amarok should be able to play it
[02:05] <PhinnFort> with the samba-kioslave
[02:06] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, No
[02:06] <mohsin> bye
[02:06] <sybux> !vista
[02:06] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[02:06] <haydar_> Well i'm getting an error about demux-plugin and not supported file format
[02:06] <haydar_> with .mp3 file
[02:06] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: looks like there's a problem with the sources.lst ... in /etc/apt/
[02:06] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, i get at the top of this before that :
[02:06] <Yonderb0y>  kdelibs4c2a: Depends: menu-xdg but it is not going to be installed
[02:06] <Yonderb0y>   libfontconfig1: Depends: fontconfig-config (= 2.4.2-1) but 2.4.2-1.2 is to be installed
[02:06] <Yonderb0y> and something the same about openoffice, but i don't imagine thats important
[02:06] <monzie> can someone how to do internet connection sharing in kubuntu 7.04?
[02:07] <monzie> via pppd ?
[02:07] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: :-?
[02:07] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, hmm?
[02:07] <PhinnFort> haydar_: in Noatun of Amarok?
[02:08] <PhinnFort> *or
[02:08] <PhinnFort> monzie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[02:09] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ - use this to generate a new sources.lst - Rename the existing to sources.lst.old and save the file generated by this webiste as your new sources.lst
[02:09] <snama> hey whats up?
[02:09] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: that's one way to solve. If it still doesn't solve the problem of dependency, there must be some other way to solve it
[02:09] <snama> can anyone tell me how to change the boot-up apps in KDE
[02:10] <snama> ?
[02:10] <haydar_> amarok
[02:11] <sybux> hi
[02:11] <ubunturos> when you use -f with apt-get, it is instructing to fix dependencies if any
[02:11] <sybux> I've got a little problem with vista !!!
[02:11] <BluesKaj> haydar_, make sure you have amarok-xine and amarok-engines installed
[02:11] <sybux> it has removed grub :(
[02:11] <sybux> how can I reinstall grub and keep vista working ?
[02:11] <snama> sybux you should first install linux and then windows
[02:11] <snama> that worked for me anyway
[02:11] <ubunturos> sybux: you installed vista after linux - wrong thing
[02:12] <sybux> snama: it was the case.
[02:12] <BluesKaj> brb, just installed tvtime , gotta relogin
[02:12] <snama> no no
[02:12] <snama> i was wrong
[02:12] <snama> the other way
[02:12] <Sanne> snama: somme apps starting at boot can be configured in System Settings, search for "System Services"
[02:12] <snama> sorry man
[02:13] <sybux> perhaps I'll explain my case in detail.
[02:13] <Sanne> snama: on dapper it's under "System Administration"
[02:13] <sybux> I was working with XP and Ubuntu very fine
[02:13] <snama> thanks
[02:13] <Sanne> :)
[02:13] <sybux> I've then upgraded XP to vista and now, no more grub to bood ubuntu
[02:14] <ubunturos> sybux: you'll have to reinstall grub
[02:14] <sybux> is there a tutorial somewhere cause I've read that it's a quite hard to keep vista running
[02:14] <MaDiNfO_> hi
[02:14] <ubunturos> for grub - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[02:15] <ubunturos> ^^ sybux
[02:15] <sybux> ky
[02:15] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, hopefully it should be okay now, i hope, thanks
[02:15] <MaDiNfO_> how can i change GDM resolution ?
[02:15] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: umm, try installing a small software - may be kate - or upgrading it
[02:16] <Yonderb0y> its still not working
[02:16] <Yonderb0y> but   kdelibs4c2a: Depends: menu-xdg but it is not installable
[02:16] <Yonderb0y>  works
[02:16] <Yonderb0y> err
[02:16] <Yonderb0y> oops
[02:16] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: :-/ is it working or it isn't?
[02:16] <Yonderb0y> apt-get -f install works
[02:17] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: ok, so it is able to find out dependencies. good
[02:17] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, thing is, its asking me to delete alot of stuff
[02:17] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: delete what?
[02:17] <Yonderb0y> its LONG, it will be spam if i paste here
[02:17] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[02:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:17] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: yes, see topic to paste
[02:17] <Yonderb0y> cheers BluesKaj
[02:18] <BluesKaj> :)
[02:18] <Yonderb0y> hard to find a pastebin that isn't deathly slow
[02:18] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: pastebin.ca, probably wont' be slow ;)
[02:18] <BluesKaj> Yonderb0y, try pastebin.ca
[02:18] <ubunturos> BluesKaj: :)
[02:18] <buz> sound on my notebook somehow disappeared?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> we canucks are fast
[02:19] <ubunturos> BluesKaj: canucks?
[02:19] <Yonderb0y> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21555/ ubunturos
[02:19] <BluesKaj> canadians , = .ca
[02:19] <buz> the intel_hda driver seems broken
[02:19] <ubunturos> BluesKaj: umm
[02:19] <Lynoure> buz: there was a patch for it on 16th or so...
[02:19] <BluesKaj> not california
[02:20] <buz> i think that one BROKE it in the first place
[02:20] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: what are you actually trying to install
[02:20] <buz> it did work at the beginning of the week
[02:20] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, i tried to update kate and got:
[02:20] <Yonderb0y> squee@squee-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade kate
[02:20] <Yonderb0y> Reading package lists... Done
[02:20] <Yonderb0y> Building dependency tree
[02:20] <Yonderb0y> Reading state information... Done
[02:20] <Yonderb0y> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[02:20] <Yonderb0y> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:20] <Yonderb0y>   kdelibs4c2a: Depends: menu-xdg but it is not installable
[02:20] <Yonderb0y>   openoffice.org-common: Depends: openoffice.org-style-default but it is not installed or
[02:20] <Yonderb0y>                                   openoffice.org-style-industrial but it is not installed or
[02:20] <Yonderb0y>                                   openoffice.org-style-crystal but it is not installed
[02:20] <Lynoure> buz: I don't think it is included yet, but who knows
[02:21] <Yonderb0y> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[02:21] <Yonderb0y> eh, oops, didnt mean to paste ALL that
[02:21] <|lostbyte|> Yonderb0y, You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[02:21] <buz> Lynoure: well its weird, when i installed feisty the first time it worked
[02:21] <|lostbyte|> :)
[02:21] <Yonderb0y> |lostbyte|, ... read above...
[02:21] <Lynoure> buz: it's certainly not in ubuntu yet, I think
[02:21] <buz> then what could have happened?
[02:22] <Lynoure> But gotta go now
[02:22] <Yonderb0y> |lostbyte|, When i try that it wants to install alot of stuff
[02:22] <Yonderb0y> uninstall*
[02:22] <rojanu> Hi! When I start knetworkmanager as normal user wireless card doesn't show up but it does as root, any ideas?
[02:23] <MaDiNfO_> how can i change KDM resulution ?
[02:23] <MaDiNfO_> how can i change KDM resulution ?
[02:23] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: "sudo apt-get -f upgrade kate "didnt' work?
[02:23] <Yonderb0y> fuckit, ubunturos do you think i should do it and hope for hte best?
[02:23] <jad> do not spam
[02:23] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, no, it gave what i pasted
[02:24] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: any chance to use Adpet?
[02:24] <haydar_> I got amarok-engine installed
[02:24] <|lostbyte|> Yonderb0y, it will remove and install dependency updates.
[02:24] <haydar_> and stuff
[02:24] <haydar_> still no sound
[02:24] <haydar_> mp3
[02:24] <Yonderb0y> |lostbyte|, did you read my pastebin?
[02:25] <haydar_> it wont play
[02:25] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, As far as i can tell i don't have it.
[02:25] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: Is your distro Kubuntu 6.06 or greater?
[02:25] <Yonderb0y> Hmm, how can i check?
[02:26] <Sanne> Yonderb0y:  lsb_release -a
[02:26] <haydar_> i'm getting an error if i startup noatun
[02:26] <haydar_> about arts
[02:26] <haydar_> that it failed  to start or load
[02:26] <Yonderb0y> No LSB modules are available.
[02:26] <Yonderb0y> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:26] <Yonderb0y> Description:    Ubuntu 6.10
[02:26] <Yonderb0y> Release:        6.10
[02:26] <Yonderb0y> Codename:       edgy
[02:27] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: so, you should have Add/Remove Applications in the Applications menu
[02:27] <Yonderb0y> =/
[02:27] <Yonderb0y> I'm on fluxbox
[02:27] <Yonderb0y> So what would i have to run?
[02:27] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: donno, I have used only GNOME to an extent and am running KDE currently
[02:27] <BluesKaj> haydar_, have you checked system settings/sound/hardware/select audio device/advanced linux sound architecture ?
[02:28] <haydar_> Hmm lets check,
[02:28] <Yonderb0y> Why does it say i'm using Ubuntu if i'm using Kubuntu?
[02:28] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: Ubuntu is the base system. Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE
[02:28] <Yonderb0y> ah
[02:28] <haydar_> BluesKaj
[02:28] <haydar_> its on autodetect
[02:28] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: same for Xubuntu - with XFCE
[02:28] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop , Ubuntu uses Gnome desktop
[02:29] <Yonderb0y> Can you get  ubuntu that comes with Fluxbox?
[02:29] <llp78> haydar_: mine on auto too
[02:29] <NiceGuyUK> Flubuntu?
[02:29] <Yonderb0y> Incase i reinstall
[02:29] <BluesKaj> haydar_,change it to alsa
[02:29] <ubunturos> NiceGuyUK: :)
[02:29] <haydar_> okay
[02:29] <haydar_> done
[02:29] <Yonderb0y> thanks NiceGuyUK
[02:29] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: install Kubuntu - and likely, your issues will be resolved ;)
[02:29] <haydar_> now Noatun works
[02:29] <NiceGuyUK> Yonderb0y: was a joke, no such thing that I know of
[02:30] <BluesKaj> ok, try amarok too
[02:30] <haydar_> But it wont play a file
[02:30] <haydar_> i select the file but
[02:30] <Yonderb0y> NiceGuyUK, errr, i googled it
[02:30] <haydar_> nothing happens
[02:30] <Yonderb0y> wikipedia thinks there is =/
[02:30] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: and if you can install *buntu from a DVD - much better
[02:30] <NiceGuyUK> really? I'll have to look
[02:30] <NiceGuyUK> lol
[02:30] <Sanne> Yonderb0y: there's actually this (unofficial) http://fluxbuntu.org/
[02:30] <haydar_> got the same on amarok
[02:30] <haydar_> smb://uw-6rspzydfvpyj/Mp3/s.mp3
[02:30] <llp78> haydar_: when you click test sound in sound system general tab does it play sound
[02:30] <haydar_> thats the path
[02:31] <haydar_> yes
[02:31] <haydar_> it plays
[02:31] <llp78> ok ill shut up then :p
[02:31] <haydar_> xD
[02:31] <Yonderb0y> FUCK
[02:31] <Yonderb0y> i clicked yes anyway
[02:31] <Yonderb0y> its uninstall konquorer!
[02:31] <Yonderb0y> bollocks!
[02:31] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Yonderb0y #
[02:31] <ubotu> Yonderb0y #: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:31] <BluesKaj> haydar_, start a player from the terminal and paste the errors in pastebin
[02:31] <LjL> !language
[02:31] <Yonderb0y> looks like ima need to get a reinstall soon
[02:31] <haydar_> Ok
[02:31] <Yonderb0y> ...
[02:32] <haydar_> Blueskaj
[02:32] <haydar_> i started amarok
[02:32] <LjL> Yonderb0y: how exactly did you manage to remove konqueror...?
[02:32] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: do it from a DVD :) - suggestin
[02:32] <sybux> ubunturos: I've run what was written on your web site, but I still have only vista and no gurb :(
[02:32] <ubunturos> suggestion*
[02:32] <haydar_> with terminal
[02:32] <haydar_> but there are no errors
[02:32] <Yonderb0y> LjL, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:32] <haydar_> only thing i get is an error message in amarok
[02:32] <Yonderb0y> ubuntulog, can't
[02:32] <ubunturos> sybux: not my website, heh. You need to install Grub..
[02:32] <Yonderb0y> Whats the difference from DVD?
[02:32] <LjL> Yonderb0y: well once the problems that led you to doing the -f install are fixed, you should be able to get everything back to normal (including konqueror) with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:33] <haydar_> something about nonsupported file or demux-plugin
[02:33] <haydar_> strange..
[02:33] <sybux> ubunturos: I've done it : root then setup in grub shell
[02:33] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: you'll have a lot of additional packages that you can install without accessing the internet or troubling yourself with apt-get
[02:33] <ubunturos> sybux: and grub is not installed? :-/
[02:33] <LjL> well, it's not like you don't need to download the whole DVD to start with, though :)
[02:33] <sybux> nope :(
[02:33] <Yonderb0y> ubunturos, Don't have a DVD drive. :(
[02:34] <ubunturos> Yonderb0y: oh, ok
[02:34] <Yonderb0y> Hmm, i'm using fluxbox, so i COULD go without the KDU stuff its uninstalling, right?
[02:34] <haydar_> Wait maybe i fixed it
[02:34] <haydar_> ok fixed :D
[02:35] <LjL> Yonderb0y: i guess so
[02:35] <Yonderb0y> :D
[02:35] <Yonderb0y> IDk what i will do without kopete though.
[02:35] <LjL> Yonderb0y: just make sure you have the relevant metapackage for your distribution installed... i don't know which one that is with fluxbox/fluxbuntu whatever
[02:35] <LjL> well just reinstall kopete
[02:35] <ubunturos> sybux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 - see, if this helps
[02:35] <Yonderb0y> Sounds like a plan
[02:35] <Yonderb0y> LjL, Metapackage?
[02:35] <LjL> !metapackage
[02:35] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[02:35] <LjL> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:36] <Yonderb0y> errr
[02:36] <Yonderb0y> its removing console...
[02:36] <Yonderb0y> What will i do then....
[02:36] <LjL> console?
[02:36] <RytmenPinnen> Hi, How do I play DVD's?
[02:36] <LjL> !dvd
[02:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:36] <ubunturos> sybux: or even this - http://my.opera.com/Mr Green/blog/show.dml/224803
[02:37] <ubunturos> sybux: eeks, copy paste the URL
[02:37] <rojanu> Hi! When I start knetworkmanager as normal user wireless card doesn't show up but it does as root, any ideas?
[02:37] <sybux> ^
[02:38] <ubunturos> sybux: what?
[02:38] <NiceGuyUK> In Konsole, how can I get it to recognise ALT as the META key correctly ?
[02:38] <sybux> miss sorry
[02:39] <NiceGuyUK> /ws 3
[02:40] <manwithaface> Does anyone know how to rebuild initramfs from a LiveCD?
[02:41] <|lostbyte|> manwithaface, no guides online ?
[02:41] <manwithaface> i haven't seen any
[02:42] <manwithaface> intelikey was helping me yesterday, but i haven't seen him since
[02:42] <manwithaface> evreything I can find involves being able to boot into the system you need to rebuild initramfs on
[02:42] <manwithaface> everything*
[02:42] <haydar_> Anyone know how to minimize
[02:42] <haydar_> fullscreened games
[02:42] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, I dont get it
[02:42] <haydar_> >_<
[02:43] <dragon> hello all
[02:43] <manwithaface> is there anyway around initramfs?
[02:43] <dragon> i need help configurating my ethernet lan with kubuntu, can you help me?
[02:44] <Keen> hi does anyone have a functioning wacom tablet here?
[02:44] <|lostbyte|> haydar_, depends on the game.
[02:44] <Keen> i cant seem to get mine to work...
[02:45] <|lostbyte|> dragon, use knetworkmanager
[02:45] <luca> hi everyone
[02:45] <Ayabara> after testing gnome & kde I've landed on kde. is there a way to remove the gnome packages that clutter my install? the packages that "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" would add on a clean kubuntu installation.
[02:46] <|lostbyte|> manwithaface, know very little on the topic, i found this : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Initramfs
[02:46] <luca> does anyone know at which point the development of the new kwin is?
[02:46] <RytmenPinnen> how do I add those sources?
[02:46] <RytmenPinnen> It says deb is not a command
[02:46] <dragon> |lostbyte|: i am already using knetwork
[02:46] <NiceGuyUK> Ayabara: www.psychocats.net/PureGnome I think
[02:46] <manwithaface> |lostbyte| thanks, checking now
[02:47] <|lostbyte|> dragon, what seem to be the problem ?
[02:47] <dragon> |lostbyte|: i have a second ethernet controller
[02:47] <luca> Ayabara, I think that removing the libgtk should do the work
[02:47] <NiceGuyUK> Ayabara: thats http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[02:47] <NiceGuyUK> sorry for wrong link first time ;)
[02:47] <dragon> |lostbyte|: and i connected it with a NAS gigabit, using a cross cable
[02:48] <Ayabara> NiceGuyUK: thanks a lot :-)
[02:48] <dragon> |lostbyte|: the NAS has static ip 10.10.10.10
[02:48] <|lostbyte|> dragon, k
[02:48] <RytmenPinnen> how do I add repositorys? I want to play a DVD
[02:48] <dragon> |lostbyte|: i can't make my pc use the second controller to reach the NAS
[02:48] <|lostbyte|> !EasySource | RytmenPinnen
[02:48] <ubotu> RytmenPinnen: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:48] <dragon> |lostbyte|: when i use ping 10.10.10.10
[02:48] <RytmenPinnen> aha
[02:48] <dragon> |lostbyte|: i can't ping it
[02:49] <haydar_> Anyone got a sort like website f
[02:49] <haydar_> of
[02:49] <haydar_> kde-look.org
[02:49] <Ayabara> NiceGuyUK: except. you should've postet the purekde link instead ;-)
[02:49] <|lostbyte|> dragon, huh, you should look into the route command, that defines what interface it will use primarily.
[02:49] <NiceGuyUK> Ayabara: lol, yeah, good point
[02:49] <dragon> |lostbyte|: and knetwork says me invalid gateway ... but i dunno what to write in gateway cause there is no router ... it is a point to point connection
[02:50] <sybux> ubuntulog: I've find a very good tuto : http://apcmag.com/5045/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux
[02:50] <sybux> In fact in vista, you can't write grub on the mbr. You need to use the bootloader of vista to switch
[02:51] <haydar_> anyone?
[02:51] <sybux> haydar_: yep I've got
[02:52] <haydar_> :P link
[02:52] <|lostbyte|> dragon, is this for accessing the Internet on the other interface ?
[02:52] <|lostbyte|> haydar_, i did't get you ?
[02:52] <luca> Ayabara I repeat myself - if you do not want gnome, remove the multiple libgtk with adept :)
[02:53] <haydar_> Anyone got a sort like website of
[02:53] <haydar_> kde-look.org
[02:53] <haydar_> its down
[02:53] <sybux> haydar_: sorry. kde-???.org website are all down
[02:53] <haydar_> i'm searching alternative :p
[02:53] <haydar_> :'(
[02:53] <stamen> hi
[02:53] <stamen> who has a working configuration with 5.1 sound
[02:53] <luca> Ayabara: it should remove practically everything regarding Gnome
[02:53] <RytmenPinnen> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[02:53] <Ayabara> luca: ah thanks. I didn't see the first post.
[02:53] <RytmenPinnen> "command not found"
[02:53] <RytmenPinnen> help
[02:53] <stamen> its prefered to be using emu10k1 driver
[02:53] <Ayabara> I've got to setup konversation better...
[02:53] <|lostbyte|> haydar_, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=related:www.kde-look.org/
[02:53] <Keen> can anyone tell me why my wacom doesnt turn on...
[02:54] <Keen> when i connect it to the usb
[02:54] <Keen> it turns on for a while
[02:54] <Keen> then it switches off
[02:54] <Keen> anyone know whats wrong?
[02:54] <Keen> my graphics tablet
[02:54] <sybux> how can I switch to my real system drive when I started from a live CD ?
[02:54] <luca> Ayabara: but be careful! I mean, if you choose this option you will remove A LOT of things
[02:54] <|lostbyte|> Keen, we will need more info on the model make and application being used to access it. Though i know very little on webcam config.
[02:54] <luca> Ayabara: so select every package singularly and check what would be removed
[02:54] <BluesKaj> stamen, I know this is an obvious question , but I ve to ask. Have you looked at the surround settings in 'alsamixer' ?
[02:55] <Keen> mmm
[02:55] <luca> Ayabara 'preview changes' with adept will do the trick :)
[02:55] <Keen> its a wacom intuos 3
[02:55] <RytmenPinnen> !FVF
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fvf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <RytmenPinnen> !DVD
[02:55] <stamen> where to look there
[02:55] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:55] <Keen> graphics tablet =P
[02:55] <stamen> there is no option for enabling it
[02:55] <|lostbyte|> :D
[02:55] <haydar_> >:D
[02:55] <stamen> or it not works corectrly
[02:55] <|lostbyte|> Keen, i miss read.
[02:55] <BluesKaj> stamen, in the terminal type alsamixer
[02:55] <Keen> =)
[02:55] <stamen> BluesKaj: I try the link which you gave me, but nothing
[02:55] <Keen> but
[02:55] <RytmenPinnen> help
[02:55] <Keen> it just turns back off
[02:56] <RytmenPinnen> I still cant play DVD's
[02:56] <Keen> when i just turn connect it
[02:56] <Ayabara> luca: ok. I have a feeling that NiceGuyUK's link will work out good as well. I think I have done the same procedure once before, on Edgy.
[02:56] <RytmenPinnen> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh ----> Command not found
[02:56] <poncepil> #eurix
[02:56] <stamen> BluesKaj: befeore everything I want to tell you that the front channel only has a sound like ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[02:56] <luca> Ayabara good then good luck :D
[02:56] <stamen> BluesKaj: and no sound of music
[02:56] <Ayabara> luca: thanks. hope I won't need it :-)
[02:57] <luca> :)
[02:57] <dragon> |lostbyte|: ok i managed it myself
[02:57] <BluesKaj> stamen, did you open a terminal and type in '  alsamixer '  ?
[02:57] <dragon> |lostbyte|: this is my situation
[02:57] <|lostbyte|> dragon, k
[02:57] <dragon> |lostbyte|: internet - eth1 - pc - eth2 - NAS
[02:58] <stamen> BluesKaj: yes
[02:58] <|lostbyte|> RytmenPinnen, did you install libdvdread3
[02:58] <RytmenPinnen> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh ----> Command not found
[02:58] <RytmenPinnen> yes
[02:58] <dragon> |lostbyte|: eth1 is DHCP and it makes me go in internet
[02:58] <|lostbyte|> k
[02:58] <dragon> eth2 is static and it makes me comunicate with NAS 10.10.10.10 (i am 10.10.10.12)
[02:59] <dragon> can i use both of them like in windows ? at the moment i can select only one of them at time
[02:59] <llp78> I had vista running on sdc1 & decided to install Kubuntu onto a seperate drive - Now everytime I boot up a get the grub menu but NO option to load windows vista - can I save vista and have a duel booting system
[02:59] <stamen> BluesKaj: and..
[02:59] <sybux> how can I switch to my real system drive when I started from a live CD ?
[02:59] <RytmenPinnen> and I cant seem to find a place to get libdvdcss2
[02:59] <BluesKaj> now stamen , any slgers tha have 00 are open , highlight with the arrow key and type M in the ones that indicate MM
[02:59] <dragon> i can use internet OR use NAS , i can't navigate and use NAS at the same time
[03:00] <BluesKaj> stamen, so that they change to 00
[03:00] <dragon> |lostbyte|: what can i do?
[03:00] <stamen> BluesKaj: ok
[03:01] <stamen> BluesKaj: have I enable IEC958
[03:01] <|lostbyte|> dragon, what does route say ?
[03:02] <dragon> |lostbyte|: i think the name of the thing i want to do is 'bond' but i really dunno what it means
[03:02] <dragon> |lostbyte|: lemme check
[03:02] <RytmenPinnen> help
[03:02] <RytmenPinnen> !fixadept
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <dragon> routes says Default gatewate 0.0.0.0 Device Eth2
[03:02] <RytmenPinnen> !aptfix
[03:02] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:03] <dragon> |lostbyte|: routes says Default gatewate 0.0.0.0 Device Eth2
[03:03] <RytmenPinnen> that didnt help
[03:03] <stamen> BluesKaj: good I have enabled them, but the front channel is little bit silent
[03:03] <Eliseth> hello everyone
[03:03] <stamen> BluesKaj: when it is on max
[03:03] <|lostbyte|> dragon, can you access the internet ?
[03:04] <RytmenPinnen> how do I shutdown adept manager?
[03:04] <dragon> |lostbyte|: atm yes :)
[03:04] <dragon> |lostbyte|: i am using Konversation so i guess i can :)
[03:05] <|lostbyte|> dragon, can you ping 10.10.10.10
[03:05] <|lostbyte|> ?
[03:05] <RytmenPinnen> it says its still running and I cant turn it on again, It happened after i tried to add the repositorys where I get libdvdcss2
[03:05] <dragon> |lostbyte|: no, i can't
[03:05] <r__> hello anyone here able to help me with KNode ?
[03:05] <dragon> |lostbyte|: to ping 10.10.10.10 i have to select eth2 first
[03:05] <|lostbyte|> dragon, pm the output of ifconfig
[03:05] <dragon> |lostbyte|: that's the problem, i can use only one of them at time
[03:05] <RytmenPinnen> i tried the command !aptfix gave me but it didnt help
[03:05] <BluesKaj> ok, stamen , go to this site to setup alsa properly : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)
[03:06] <stamen> BluesKaj: ok, 10x
[03:06] <dragon> |lostbyte|: if i select eth2 with knetwork i can ping 10.10.10.10 but can't navigate in internet or speak with you in Konversation
[03:07] <RytmenPinnen> how do I shutdown adept manager if it has crashed and is still running?
[03:07] <dragon> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:8D:94:F1:97
[03:07] <RytmenPinnen> it says its still running and I cant turn it on again, It happened after i tried to add the repositorys where I get libdvdcss2
[03:07] <dragon>           inet addr:23.254.211.202  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.248.0
[03:07] <dragon>           inet6 addr: fe80::250:8dff:fe94:f197/64 Scope:Link
[03:07] <r__> hello anyone here able to help me with KNode ?
[03:07] <RytmenPinnen> i tried the command !aptfix gave me but it didnt help
[03:07] <dragon>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[03:07] <dragon>           RX packets:17351 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[03:07] <|lostbyte|> RytmenPinnen, ctrl + alt + esc
[03:07] <Karti> Hi all
[03:07] <dragon>           TX packets:16322 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[03:07] <dragon>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[03:07] <|lostbyte|> RytmenPinnen, and click on the window.
[03:07] <dragon>           RX bytes:12447549 (11.8 MiB)  TX bytes:1737062 (1.6 MiB)
[03:07] <dragon>           Interrupt:16 Base address:0x4000
[03:07] <dragon> eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:17:20:B7:71
[03:07] <RytmenPinnen> no but its sort of running in the background somwhere
[03:07] <dragon>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[03:07] <dragon>           RX packets:217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[03:07] <dragon>           TX packets:493 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[03:07] <dragon>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[03:07] <dragon>           RX bytes:163552 (159.7 KiB)  TX bytes:69064 (67.4 KiB)
[03:07] <dragon>           Base address:0x7f00 Memory:fd4e0000-fd500000
[03:08] <|lostbyte|> dragon, pm = Private message.
[03:08] <|lostbyte|> :D
[03:08] <RytmenPinnen> lol
[03:08] <dragon> |lostbyte|: sorry xD
[03:08] <RytmenPinnen> damnit now im getting annoyed with ubuntu again
[03:08] <|lostbyte|> RytmenPinnen, then killall adept
[03:09] <BluesKaj> stamen, actually this page will help even more : http://alsa.opensrc.org/Main_Page
[03:09] <RytmenPinnen> tried that allready
[03:09] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | dragon
[03:09] <ubotu> dragon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:10] <RytmenPinnen> hmm I had this problem when I first installed kubuntu too
[03:10] <RytmenPinnen> and where do I find libdvdcss2?
[03:11] <Karti> Hi all....graphics question - When I boot up my resolution is huge but when I log in it becomes normal at 1280 x 1028 does anyone have any advice to set my initial login screen resolutions?
[03:11] <RytmenPinnen> !dvd
[03:11] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:12] <gemidjy> can i grep for binary character within a file (i.e. feff ?)
[03:12] <BluesKaj> RytmenPinnen, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[03:12] <sercik> Karti: i have the same problem it seems like a virtual screen bigger than normal screen (for example in laptop when you select a resoluttion bigger than supported)
[03:12] <Ayabara> "After unpacking 1154MB disk space will be freed". I'm scared...
[03:13] <Karti> sercik: It appears to be the first time I have had this really. It may only have happened when I added VM tools
[03:14] <Karti> I can survive but I may try it on a clone to see what the difference is, I just thought there may be a setting in the x server
[03:14] <RytmenPinnen> BluesKaj isnt that for edgy eft?
[03:15] <RytmenPinnen> nm
[03:16] <BluesKaj> just replace the edgy with feisty in the repos name
[03:20] <RytmenPinnen> why cant they have the libdvcss2 codecs in the official repositories?
[03:20] <BluesKaj> legal issues
[03:22] <Ayabara> I need some help. When boot/login I need to run a couple of commands. I need to wait 15 seconds, then run "feh --bg-scale `dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface currentWallpaper 1`", followed by starting conky. How can I make a script that does this, and how do I make kde run it?
[03:24] <Trickser> hi, i updated edgy to feisty but i am having problems with my old Nvidia Geforce 440 card.
[03:25] <Trickser> It seems to be a conflict in linux-restricted-modules with the new nvidia modules
[03:36] <stamen> BluesKaj: thank you very much, I adjust all
[03:36] <stamen> :)
[03:37] <BluesKaj> cool, stamen  :)
[03:40] <Tm_T> hi kids
[03:41] <Tm_T> Trickser: hmm, you need mid-series nvidia drivers I think
[03:45] <Boje> moin
[03:46] <diegodlh> I'm wondering whether anyone can help me with this. I'm using KNetworManager on Kubuntu 7.04 and I wanted to know if there is a way to save a WPA password other than KWallet. I'm not the only one who uses this PC and, even though I want anyone using it to be able to connect to the wireless network, I don't want to give them the chance of viewing the password through kwallet. Can anyone help me??
[03:47] <Trickser> Tm_T: mid-series, do you mean the legacy driver?
[03:49] <Tm_T> Trickser: no, there's legacy (old) normal and new, IIRC 440 belongs to normal
[03:49] <Tm_T> Trickser: but you can try legacy too, shouldn't harm
[03:49] <Trickser> I will try now and let you know...
[03:50] <Cugel2> /qiot
[03:53] <BlackBsd> does the knetwork manager use wpa_suplicant for wireless configuration??
[03:53] <BlackBsd> is there some .conf file which holds the settings?
[03:53] <Edulix> hi!
[03:53] <Tm_T> BlackBsd: does knetworkmanager help tell anything?
[03:54] <Edulix> network manager can't find my wifi card (but it works from command line)
[03:54] <Edulix> I have an atheros, with madwifi
[03:55] <manwithaface> Edulix: you need to delete all of your data for that interfaces from your /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:55] <Edulix> manwithaface: why oh why? that's what I use to configure my network :P
[03:55] <manwithaface> network manager cannot manager when it is being controlled by something else
[03:55] <Edulix> ah ok so that's the problem?
[03:55] <Edulix> I'll do a backup
[03:55] <Tm_T> I rather would move it away, not remove ;)
[03:55] <manwithaface> good plane
[03:55] <manwithaface> plan*
[03:56] <manwithaface> or rename
[03:56] <Tm_T> backups <3
[03:56] <BlackBsd> no, i wanted to take some file on ubuntu and use it on another distro
[03:56] <Tm_T> manwithaface: it's moving
[03:56] <BlackBsd> b/c the wireless works in kbuntu
[03:56] <Edulix> manwithaface: commenting it is enough?
[03:57] <manwithaface> should be
[03:58] <Edulix> manwithaface: okay, now /etc/init.d/networking restart should work or what do I need to do? (no reboot please)
[03:58] <manwithaface> Edulix: you might need to restart NetworkManager
[03:58] <Edulix> no reboot because I'm compiling hehe
[03:58] <manwithaface> lol
[03:58] <manwithaface> sudo killall NetworkManager
[03:58] <manwithaface> then sudo NetworkManager
[04:00] <Edulix> manwithaface: networkmanagerdispatcher killed
[04:00] <Edulix> manwithaface: it still doesn't show any info for my card
[04:00] <Edulix> note that sometime ago it worked..
[04:00] <manwithaface> had you changed config by command line?
[04:00] <Edulix> but it just stopped working once without any good explanation..
[04:01] <Edulix> I don't remember, I think not
[04:01] <Edulix> ups
[04:02] <llp78> how can I find an unmounted drive in the terminal
[04:02] <llp78> whats the command
[04:02] <alexicon> my version of amarok doesnt want to play streams. says a codec is missing, any idea what?
[04:02] <alexicon> amarok 1.4.5
[04:04] <alexicon> llp78: you can have a look with ls /dev/ itll show you all available devices. or if its something you just plugged in use dmesg
[04:04] <llp78> alexicon thanks the ls /dev does the job
[04:04] <alexicon> ok
[04:05] <Graham> What's a good sound converting utility, also what do I need to convert wma to ogg?
[04:11] <Graham> Hello?
[04:11] <tsdgeos> hi
[04:12] <PhinnFort> !hi | Graham
[04:12] <ubotu> Graham: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:12] <Graham> What's a good sound converting utility, also what do I need to convert wma to ogg?
[04:12] <PhinnFort> is it possible to see what kind of RAM i have?
[04:12] <PhinnFort> Graham: mencoder
[04:12] <PhinnFort> Graham: there's several frontends and scripts to do it automatically
[04:12] <PhinnFort> !info dir2ogg | Graham
[04:12] <ubotu> graham: dir2ogg: audio file converter into ogg-vorbis format. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 76 kB
[04:13] <Graham> Thanks.
[04:13] <alexicon> what codecs does amarok need to do music streaming?
[04:13] <PhinnFort> yw
[04:15] <alexicon> !amarok streaming
[04:15] <PhinnFort> !streaming
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <aleksanteri> yay kde-look is up again \o/
[04:17] <PhinnFort> hurrayh
[04:17] <PhinnFort> alexicon: i can play streams
[04:18] <alexicon> hrm
[04:18] <alexicon> it doesnt like my last.fm streams now for some reason
[04:23] <llp78> the comand i needed was sudo fdisk -l
[04:23] <rmd_> is there a kde program that can play FLV files?
[04:23] <llp78> rmd_ i have a script which converts flv to divx
[04:23] <llp78> using mencoders
[04:23] <rmd_> oh
[04:23] <rmd_> do share
[04:24] <llp78> how
[04:24] <rmd_> i've tried ffmpeg2theora, but it throws an invalid codec error
[04:24] <llp78> pm me your email
[04:24] <rmd_> ah
[04:24] <rmd_> no
[04:24] <llp78> ive tested this as i wanted to slow down a youtube vid
[04:24] <llp78> ok ill paste in here
[04:24] <llp78> #!/bin/sh
[04:24] <llp78> if [ -z "$1" ] ; then
[04:24] <llp78>   echo "Usage: $0 {-divx|-xvid} list_of_flv_files"
[04:25] <llp78>   exit 1
[04:25] <llp78> fi
[04:25] <llp78> # video encoding bit rate
[04:25] <llp78> V_BITRATE=1000
[04:25] <llp78> while [ "$1" ] ; do
[04:25] <llp78>   case "$1" in
[04:25] <Trickser> TmT: hi, i have installed nvidia-glx and the linux-restricted-modules and I am getting "error running install command for nvidia"
[04:25] <llp78>     -divx)
[04:25] <llp78>       MENC_OPTS="-ovc lavc -lavcopts \
[04:25] <llp78>         vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=$V_BITRATE:mbd=2:v4mv:autoaspect"
[04:25] <llp78>       ;;
[04:25] <llp78>     -xvid)
[04:25] <llp78>       MENC_OPTS="-ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=$V_BITRATE:autoaspect"
[04:25] <llp78>       ;;
[04:26] <llp78>     *)
[04:26] <llp78>       if file "$1" | grep -q "Macromedia Flash Video"; then
[04:26] <llp78>         mencoder "$1" $MENC_OPTS -vf pp=lb -oac mp3lame \
[04:26] <llp78>           -lameopts fast:preset=standard -o \
[04:26] <llp78>           "`basename $1 .flv`.avi"
[04:26] <llp78>       else
[04:26] <Trickser> TmT: using Linux 2.6.20-15-386
[04:26] <llp78>         echo "$1 is not Flash Video. Skipping"
[04:26] <llp78>       fi
[04:26] <llp78>       ;;
[04:26] <llp78>   esac
[04:26] <llp78>   shift
[04:26] <llp78> done
[04:26] <llp78> save as flv2avi.sh
[04:26] <sercik> Hi llp78!
[04:27] <llp78> hi
[04:27] <LjL> !paste | llp78
[04:27] <ubotu> llp78: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <sercik> what are you speaknig about??
[04:27] <llp78> flv converter#
[04:28] <Trickser> TmT: but using linux-*-generic it seems that the old 1.0.7184 driver is used, but 1.0.96x is really what i am using, so, the X does not start
[04:28] <llp78> the link is @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21567/ if anyone wants it
[04:29] <Tm_T> Trickser: er
[04:29] <llp78> LjL: thanks for the pastebin
[04:29] <Tm_T> Trickser: sounds bad
[04:30] <carlo> hi, just a stupid question: how can I know what kubuntu version it's installed in a pc?
[04:30] <LjL> !version
[04:30] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[04:30] <Trickser> Tm_T: well, i have found an other clue...
[04:30] <BlackBsd> how many lines is "large"
[04:30] <carlo> thanks
[04:30] <Trickser> TmT: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/107646
[04:30] <LjL> BlackBsd: more than one.
[04:30] <BlackBsd> 5 lines and up?
[04:31] <sercik> it seems that under linux i see characters not good good as under windows my monitor seems not on focus.. is there any font rendering that i can try??
[04:31] <LjL> 5 lines is already annoying enough. if you have output that you can't make fit in one line of IRC, just use the pastebin, it's there for that reason and it's must handier for everyone to look at too
[04:31] <BlackBsd> so lip78, this script is slows the video down?
[04:32] <BlackBsd> what about sound
[04:32] <malik__> is it possible to convert ntfs partition into an ext2/3 partition, without destroying thedata on it?
[04:33] <BlackBsd> really?  2 lines is "large"
[04:33] <BlackBsd> i think there has been times where i have accidently pasted a few lines into and irc window...
[04:33] <BlackBsd> damn.
[04:34] <Graham> PhinnFort: dir2ogg keeps failing.
[04:34] <llp78> BlackBsd: no it converts - but with flv 's you cannot slow them down so i converted for the reason
[04:34] <llp78> it converts to divx from flv
[04:34] <Graham> Says UnboundLocalError: local variable 'x' referenced before assignment
[04:34] <BlackBsd> nalik_ just make a new partion and copy the data?
[04:34] <ReMiiRuru> What is the reccomended method of installing nvidia graphic drivers? using the .run package on their site?
[04:34] <BlackBsd> malik_
[04:35] <BlackBsd> or not an option?
[04:35] <BlackBsd> i have been hearing about this new fuse software
[04:35] <BlackBsd> allowing rw support in ntfs
[04:36] <malik__> BlackBsd: at the moment i dont have that big parttion or psace onto which i can move the data
[04:36] <BlackBsd> i think it means file system in user space or something like that
[04:37] <harry> Is it possible to set up Amarok to stream music to other computers over a network?
[04:37] <SlimeyPete> ReMiiRuru: use the ubuntu packages from adept/synatpic
[04:37] <BlackBsd> what is flv's?  is that a file format
[04:37] <SlimeyPete> flash video
[04:37] <harry> I tried Jinzora, but I like Amarok's interface much more.
[04:37] <haydar_> If a new version releases
[04:38] <haydar_> do i update
[04:38] <llp78> is anyone duel booting on sperate hard drives here? if so can i take a look at your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:38] <AFaith> hello people! can anyone help me compile a driver for my old intel 536EP PCI modem ?
[04:38] <haydar_> or new installation
[04:38] <AFaith> i'm reciving errors while 'make 536' stage
[04:38] <llp78> i need help saving vista
[04:38] <ReMiiRuru> SlimeyPete: Well, that means I don't even have to try installing those :/ Well, not unless I'll find linux magican who'll get rid of all problems nvidia drivers give me.
[04:39] <SlimeyPete> ReMiiRuru: if the packages don't work then yes, use the .run ... it's your only other option
[04:39] <AFaith> http://www.pastebin.ca/496882 here is the output of the console
[04:41] <ReMiiRuru> SlimeyPete: No... that didn't work as well, I just hoped I missed some reccomended way ~.~; I can install those drivers, but then X won't start and I'll get neat error
[04:41] <AFaith> no one ?
[04:41] <NiceGuyUK> AFaith: I just got here, what was the question?
[04:41] <AFaith> at least, can you provide me some links where should i read more about the problem ?
[04:42] <AFaith> NiceGuyUK: i'm trying to compile a driver for my old intel 536EP modem
[04:42] <AFaith> and it gives me an error
[04:42] <NiceGuyUK> long error or short one?
[04:42] <AFaith> http://www.pastebin.ca/496882 here is the output of the console
[04:42] <NiceGuyUK> ok
[04:42] <NiceGuyUK> one sec while I look
[04:42] <AFaith> ok ..
[04:43] <llp78> can anyone help with grub ?
[04:43] <Tm_T> !helpme
[04:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:44] <llp78> I have vista on a seperate drive which didnt get picked up by grub - now I need to see some grub config - interested in the root (hd0,0) bit
[04:45] <NiceGuyUK> AFaith: bit beyond my skills unfortunately :-(
[04:45] <AFaith> oh :(
[04:45] <AFaith> too bad
[04:45] <llp78> because I have vista on the 2nd sata and 3 hd's in the same system
[04:45] <AFaith> but, can you provide me some links useful for me ?
[04:46] <BlackBsd> ok, if i want to compile a new kernel, and my current kernel config is set up right, cant i use make oldconfig to keep the migrate my old kernel?  what about any new settings or bad settings?
[04:46] <NiceGuyUK> AFaith: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/archive-fifth/msg02410.html
[04:46] <AFaith> let me see... thanks NiceGuyUK!!
[04:46] <NiceGuyUK> AFaith: talks about Fedora but may help, esp. bit about commenting out the PM_ACCESS part in the source
[04:46] <serg> hello
[04:47] <AFaith> helo serg!
[04:47] <AFaith> hello*
[04:47] <BlackBsd> lip you can use fdisk to figure out where the partition it
[04:47] <serg> :)
[04:47] <llp78> I know which partition the vista is on but i cant work out the correct root(hd0,0) bit
[04:47] <AFaith> its just crap
[04:48] <BlackBsd> it would be fdisk /dev/sdb
[04:48] <AFaith> nothing ... i think i would abandon the idea
[04:48] <llp78> i think the root(hd0,0) bit is implying that vista is on the 1st hd but its not its on the 3rd so what would be the correct root
[04:49] <llp78> in the grub config
[04:49] <llp78> I can mount vista partition in kubuntu and I know its on /dev/sdc1
[04:50] <llp78> I need to know how to add this info to grub in order to beable to duel boot vista and kubunti
[04:51] <NiceGuyUK> AFaith: http://www.mepis.org/node/6022
[04:51] <NiceGuyUK> mepis is debian/ubuntu based too
[04:51] <AFaith> i know... let me see :D
[04:52] <NiceGuyUK> I'm no expert on compiling kernel drivers - been struggling to patch my wireless drivers lately
[04:52] <pag> llp78, iirc if Vista's on sdc1, then the grub thinks it's hd2,0
[04:53] <llp78> pag: thanks for the reply and have added that to the grub config already I thought that aswell - but Grub hangs on "starting now"
[04:54] <NiceGuyUK> !nickspam
[04:54] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[04:54] <masterk> sorry bout the nick changes
[04:54] <NiceGuyUK> just a little reminder ;)
[04:54] <masterk> I didn't realize I auto joined
[04:55] <BluesKaj> or do your changes in the serverpage textbox
[04:55] <BlackBsd>  the vista would be somthing like  root(hd2, 2)\nchainloader +1  if its the 3rd one in.
[04:55] <pag> llp78, I might be worong, but somehow I recall that you need to add some lines, that make Vista think it's on first partition of first HD. I'll try to see, if I find those lines
[04:55] <llp78> this is my grub config for vista http://www.pastebin.ca/496902
[04:55] <llp78> pag: your a legend if you find anythiing please lmk
[04:55] <masterk> anyways I have a little issue, non of the audio players included give out audio...
[04:56] <BlackBsd> is anyone compiling kernels??
[04:56] <masterk> I downloaded VLC Media Player and it plays audio but I don't know why it does and not the other stuff
[04:56] <NiceGuyUK> !mp3 | masterk
[04:56] <ubotu> masterk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <masterk> I want to use amarok for my shoutcast streams I listen to
[04:56] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[04:56] <NiceGuyUK> might help
[04:57] <pag> llp78, I think this is the way: http://www.pastebin.ca/496906  It might work, but I won't promise anything
[04:58] <llp78> pag: its worth a look thanks for the help
[04:58] <pag> yw :)
[04:58] <BluesKaj> masterk, amarok-engine , xine, xineplugins..check synaptic for these
[04:59] <AFaith> hello BluesKaj!  now i've noticed you :P
[04:59] <AFaith> remember me ?
[04:59] <BluesKaj> hi AFaith
[04:59] <BluesKaj> yup
[04:59] <AFaith> :P
[04:59] <AFaith> NiceGuyUK: it really worked :D
[05:00] <timmay> hey everyone
[05:00] <NiceGuyUK> AFaith: you got the modem working?
[05:00] <AFaith> no really, but i've got the driver installed :P
[05:00] <AFaith> i should work :D
[05:00] <NiceGuyUK> AFaith: thats a good start
[05:00] <AFaith> of course :P
[05:00] <AFaith> got to restart... it asks me to restart :)
[05:00] <AFaith> be right back
[05:01] <NiceGuyUK> glad #I could point you in the right direction
[05:01] <AFaith> wanna ask you something :P
[05:01] <masterk> BluesKaj: amarok is upgradable and it doesn't have the engines
[05:01] <masterk> install?
[05:01] <BluesKaj> masterk, go for it
[05:01] <masterk> kk
[05:02] <Captain_Haddock> !upgrade
[05:02] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:02] <Graham> I'm havint some trouble converting my music to ogg.
[05:03] <Graham> I'm using soundKonverter, it seems to decode properly but it fails to encode, however it does encode properly to mp3
[05:03] <NiceGuyUK> got liblame installed?
[05:03] <don> Pag: I get NTLDR is missing now -
[05:03] <NiceGuyUK> !lame
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <Captain_Haddock> Can somebody confirm that upgrades cannot be performed using the Live / Desktop CD?
[05:04] <sergiu> hello
[05:04] <Graham> Lame as in the MP3 encoder?
[05:04] <NiceGuyUK> Captain_Haddock: I think you can when you insert the CD
[05:04] <pag> don, I have no idea what does that mean. sorry.
[05:04] <Graham> For encoding to .ogg?
[05:04] <NiceGuyUK> Graham: yesh, the library code version
[05:04] <sergiu> how to check if the kubuntu installation was properluy installed with all files?
[05:04] <NiceGuyUK> oh yeah, wrong way, sorry
[05:04] <sergiu> becouse the instalttion was not "clean"
[05:05] <Graham> The files are wma, it decodes fine, it encoded to mp3 perfectly.
[05:05] <Captain_Haddock> NiceGuyUK: Is this the "driver update CD" option? That seemed to go nowhere.
[05:05] <NiceGuyUK> Captain_Haddock: ah, could be
[05:05] <Captain_Haddock> NiceGuyUK: Otherwise the only option I see is "Install" (icon on the desktop) when I use the LiveCD.
[05:06] <Captain_Haddock> NiceGuyUK: and that proceeded with asking me questions for a fresh install.
[05:06] <NiceGuyUK> Captain_Haddock: I thought I saw an upgrade option in the past, maybe it was the driver thing I was thinking of
[05:06] <Captain_Haddock> Ah
[05:06] <Captain_Haddock> Any idea how large the network install is?
[05:07] <NiceGuyUK> Captain_Haddock: a few hours worth on broadband. DOn't wanna think about doing that on dialup :-S
[05:07] <AFaith> back again :)
[05:07] <NiceGuyUK> wb
[05:07] <AFaith> whats his problem NiceGuyUK ?
[05:08] <NiceGuyUK> upgrade distro from CD instead of fresh install or network upgrade
[05:08] <Captain_Haddock> AFaith: I have the Live CD (which was mailed to me) and would like to upgrade to Feisty from Edgy.
[05:08] <AFaith> do you have a good internet connection ?
[05:08] <Captain_Haddock> Not really :(
[05:09] <masterk> BluesKaj: the upgrades are installed and the engines are too but it didn't help
[05:09] <BluesKaj> Graham, check settings/configure soundkonverter/envirnonment...look at the "programs not found" list
[05:10] <AFaith> Captain_Haddock: you should consider to ask for a new CD with Feisty Fawn or ask a friend of yours to burn a disc for you :)
[05:10] <Captain_Haddock> AFaith: the alternate CD?
[05:10] <NiceGuyUK> I stil believe there should be a way to upgrade from CD, but not got a spare machine to prove it with
[05:10] <BluesKaj> masterk , sometimes a relogin is needed
[05:10] <masterk> ok
[05:10] <masterk> relogging in
[05:10] <AFaith> no really..
[05:10] <masterk> be back soon
[05:11] <AFaith> Captain_Haddock: ask ShipIT to send you a feisty fawn disc:)
[05:11] <NiceGuyUK> (and then wait several weeks)
[05:11] <Captain_Haddock> I ordered and got a 3 CD pack - 2 32 bit and 1 64 bit.. Could one of them be an alternate CD?
[05:11] <BlackBsd> how do i turn on the sshd on the kubuntu?
[05:11] <BlackBsd> so i can ssh in
[05:11] <Captain_Haddock> AFaith: I'm not sure what you mean - I have the discs...
[05:12] <Captain_Haddock> There just doesn't seem to be an upgrade option when I boot with it.
[05:12] <NiceGuyUK> BlackBsd: you got openssh installed from the repos yet?
[05:12] <Captain_Haddock> There is a "driver update CD" something or the other, but that went nowhere.
[05:13] <NiceGuyUK> !ssh
[05:13] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:13] <donald> Hello, anyone having trouble with the game slune on fiesty?
[05:14] <teezett> can someone tell me how to get amarok play mp3?
[05:14] <NiceGuyUK> !mp3 | teezett
[05:14] <ubotu> teezett: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <ubuntu__> hello
[05:16] <DRUNKENSTEIN> hello guys
[05:16] <sybux> hi all
[05:16] <DRUNKENSTEIN> I'm new to kubuntu, and running a freshly installed one
[05:17] <DRUNKENSTEIN> but I've got some problems to fix.. has any one of you encountered having an OS hang after you run amarok?
[05:17] <BlackBsd> thanks guys.. i booted into gentoo.
[05:17] <NiceGuyUK> BlackBsd: I'm sorry to hear that :-P
[05:17] <sybux> I've got a little problem since I've updated to feisty. When I listen some music, the sound is not good anymore. There is some bad noise during play
[05:17] <Dekkard> DRUNKENSTEIN:  what do you mean hang.. become unusable?
[05:17] <Captain_Haddock> DRUNKENSTEIN: there is an issue with trying to install mp3 support.
[05:18] <Captain_Haddock> DRUNKENSTEIN: this happens the first time you play an mp3 file, right?
[05:18] <llp78>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY lozza1978
[05:18] <BlackBsd> i think my e1505 laptop from dell has pretty much everthing working in kubuntu
[05:18] <sybux> DRUNKENSTEIN: have just have that 5 minute ago. just wait and amarok will give you the hand back
[05:18] <Captain_Haddock> llp78: muahahaha
[05:18] <NiceGuyUK> llp78: oops!
[05:18] <BlackBsd> i would like to get bluetooth working..
[05:18] <teezett> BlackBsd: gentoo is great, but hard to install
[05:18] <DRUNKENSTEIN> yeps
[05:18] <DRUNKENSTEIN> become completely unusable
[05:18] <BlackBsd> maybe it does, and i just dont know how to use it
[05:18] <DRUNKENSTEIN> you can't do anything except restart it using your cpu's restart button
[05:18] <NiceGuyUK> !mp3
[05:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:18] <NiceGuyUK> !codecs
[05:19] <Captain_Haddock> DRUNKENSTEIN: the entire system hangs?
[05:19] <Captain_Haddock> or just amarok?
[05:19] <DRUNKENSTEIN> tho whole system hangs
[05:19] <llp78> uhh oh
[05:19] <Moduliz0r> hi
[05:19] <Dekkard> DRUNKENSTEIN:  do you have a lot of mp3 files.. liek a few hundred?
[05:19] <DRUNKENSTEIN> DRUNKENSTEIN: have just have that 5 minute ago. just wait and amarok will give you the hand back
[05:19] <masterk> BluesKaj I restarted and the welcome ogg played but not the shoutcast stream
[05:19] <Captain_Haddock> Yeah, like dude.. are you a pirate of epic proportions?
[05:20] <DRUNKENSTEIN> nope..just one mp3 file, i haven't intalled the other HDD that has the mp3 files yet
[05:20] <NiceGuyUK> Captain_Haddock: lots of mp3s don't mean you;re a pirate. it means you know how to use iTunes and a CD ripper
[05:20] <Moduliz0r> Why does Gparted format my usb device (to ext3fs) so that all permissions are so that I cant create files or folders?
[05:21] <Captain_Haddock> NiceGuyUK: that would be an exception to the rule in present day society, I reckon :)
[05:21] <Captain_Haddock> ok, here goes.. network upgrade :(
[05:21] <Dekkard> sometimes it is helpfull to start the app with a console command.. and see what the output is.. I know that on the first go of amarok.. it seems to want to index yer media.. that can be kind of a pain on a slow machine like mine (900 mhz)
[05:22] <masterk> what files can you play by default with amarok?
[05:22] <Captain_Haddock> 835 MB :(
[05:22] <DRUNKENSTEIN> yeah..theproblem is when i start from the konsole, then it freezes
[05:22] <Captain_Haddock> masterk: all open formats I think.
[05:22] <DRUNKENSTEIN> it freezes before I can see the error messages
[05:22] <Captain_Haddock> ogg etc.
[05:22] <DRUNKENSTEIN> it plays the sample fiel.. I didn't really check what that was , but probably ogg
[05:23] <ReMiiRuru> I just tried installing nvidia drivers trough adept and when I tried reboot I got black screen and freeze when X should load.
[05:23] <Dekkard> wierd..
[05:23] <Moduliz0r> How do I format a usb drive in ext3fs?
[05:23] <Captain_Haddock> DRUNKENSTEIN: try installing libxine-ffmpeg via apt and try again
[05:23] <Captain_Haddock> might help.
[05:23] <sybux> Captain_Haddock: how to get right about the freeze when you lunch amarok with a mp3 for the 1st time ?
[05:24] <DRUNKENSTEIN> I've done that already..I mean installing from apt
[05:24] <Captain_Haddock> sybux: the above worked for me - installing libxine-ffmpeg and its dependencies
[05:24] <DRUNKENSTEIN> but still, thesame thing happend
[05:24] <DRUNKENSTEIN> yeps..the first time
[05:24] <DRUNKENSTEIN> sybux: yeps..it's the first time
[05:24] <tmske> someone here who knows something about vim, command -> :python someCommand()^M, error NameError: name 'M' not defined
[05:24] <DRUNKENSTEIN> but I'm sure my audio is ok since it works when I do a check
[05:24] <BlackBsd> teezett, also knowing what software i need for my hardware.
[05:25] <BluesKaj> masterk, http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/FAQ
[05:25] <sybux> Captain_Haddock: which depot shall I need to install to get libxine-ffmpeg ?
[05:25] <DRUNKENSTEIN> I'm thinking installing amarok from source
[05:25] <DRUNKENSTEIN> do you think this will help ?
[05:25] <teezett> blackbsd, what do you mean?
[05:25] <DRUNKENSTEIN> by the way, the version of amarok that was installed was tehsame as the latest version on their site
[05:26] <JP_P_home> hello al
[05:26] <JP_P_home> have a probleme with autofs and konqueror
[05:26] <masterk> I figured it out, amarok won't play mp3 by default but if you open up an mp3 file it will use your package installer to install mp3 support from universe
[05:27] <BluesKaj> cool masterk
[05:27] <JP_P_home> konqueror create .hidden and .directory files that are tryed to be mounted as shared folder by the automount deamon
[05:28] <JP_P_home> is there a way to avoid konqueror to create such files?
[05:28] <JP_P_home> in some folders
[05:28] <ForMatter> Everyone,can u help me..In my system setting,I cant change to administrator mode..
[05:28] <mrwizrd> quick question guys, what's the most winamp-like media player?
[05:28] <Eric1979> xmms
[05:28] <masterk> so guys, how hard do you think it would be to migrate myself from windows to linux? I want to force teach myself linux
[05:28] <JP_P_home> mrwizrd> xmms
[05:29] <mrwizrd> does xmms have media player functionality?
[05:29] <mrwizrd> no, erm
[05:29] <mrwizrd> media library
[05:29] <Moduliz0r> ?
[05:29] <Moduliz0r> I dont think so
[05:29] <JP_P_home> mrwizrd> no it like winamp2
[05:29] <JP_P_home> the real one !
[05:29] <mrwizrd> I'm gonna run it in wine i think for now
[05:29] <mrwizrd> i was hoping not to.. but..
[05:30] <kellen> hello
[05:30] <JP_P_home> mrwizrd> try amarok
[05:30] <Captain_Haddock> sybux: Just the default repos IIRC..
[05:30] <lupul> how do i choose the port in ssh?
[05:30] <Eric1979> hi guys just wondering if anyone can point me in the rite direction to setting up 3D on an NVIDIA card with Feisty please ??
[05:30] <mrwizrd> oh yes
[05:30] <kellen> does anybody have any ideas on a very inexpensive computer for a grandma?
[05:30] <Captain_Haddock> sybux: actually, in addition to that, I also ran the amarok install script directly from the CLI
[05:30] <mrwizrd> i installed the ms core fonts
[05:31] <Dekkard> macpro
[05:31] <BluesKaj> masterk, depends how much time and what apps you want to able run on linux and in some cases , depending on your hardware, what you're willing to live without .. then you can always hang on to your windows partition or install a virtual machine for windows
[05:31] <Captain_Haddock> sybux: /user/lib/amarok/install-mp3 I believe.
[05:31] <lupul> eric1979 - you have to download the driver from nvidia
[05:31] <Dekkard> oops.. inexpensive
[05:31] <Moduliz0r> How do I format a USB storage device?
[05:31] <Dekkard> imac
[05:31] <mrwizrd> how can i make kde use the fonts - which ones for which parts, and what sizes/settings?
[05:32] <BluesKaj> granma gonna run windows or linux :) ?
[05:32] <mrwizrd> same for firefox
[05:32] <kellen> linux
[05:32] <Eric1979> lupul : are there any tuts u could point me to that will take me thru it step by step im a bit of a nix noob ;)
[05:32] <kellen> all she needs is a web browser, email app, word proc, and spreadsheet
[05:32] <Eric1979> kellen : try a local carboot/garage sale
[05:32] <Dekkard> kellen:  default ubuntu install
[05:33] <masterk> BluesKaj: well basically I have found an app for everything I normally do in windows for kubuntu, except for video I have VLC but my media files play crappy... mainly because this is a crappy pentium 3 IBM THINKPAD... It's a T22
[05:33] <Dekkard> she isnt gonna want to tweak the gui.. or anything
[05:33] <Dekkard> shes not going to play with beryl or compiz..
[05:33] <BluesKaj> a $400 pc will prolly do the job depending on peripherals like printers etc and of course the monitor
[05:33] <kellen> nope
[05:33] <Dekkard> ide do default ubuntu.. and prolly gnome
[05:34] <kellen> I was hoping around $200 would get me one good enough for that stuff
[05:34] <Dekkard> kellen:  does she hava a computer?
[05:34] <BluesKaj> masterk for media like dvd etc , there's devede and tovid
[05:34] <Captain_Haddock> kellen: Considering that email, word proc and spreadsheets are all now available on the browser.. you can just ask her to always use a Live CD :)
[05:34] <Captain_Haddock> kellen: cheapest option IMO.
[05:34] <conax> hi
[05:34] <kellen> well, she's going to use linux no matter what, I just need to find a cheap computer
[05:35] <fjella> hi
[05:35] <Dekkard> place near me has a box only for $299
[05:35] <fjella> i have one question
[05:35] <conax> I have a problem with instaling java
[05:35] <Dekkard> !java | conax
[05:35] <BluesKaj> well, a 200buck walmart comes with lindows , then you can install kubuntu over that if you wish
[05:35] <ubotu> conax: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:36] <masterk> BluesKaj: well actually I use VLC mainly because I have files such as mkv and ogm and divx encoded avis
[05:36] <fjella> how can i use a channel from xirc?
[05:36] <pag> !ask | fjella
[05:36] <ubotu> fjella: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:36] <fjella> *g*
[05:36] <BluesKaj> masterk,devede and tovid handle divx and xvid very nicely
[05:36] <fjella> my english is not so good^^
[05:37] <Dekkard> xirc is irc program?
[05:37] <fjella> yes
[05:37] <Dekkard> irc commands are usually like this to join: > /join #channelname
[05:37] <BluesKaj> masterk, devede and tovid are basically dvd transcoding and dvd authoring tools
[05:38] <masterk> BluesKaj: and ogm?
[05:38] <fjella> aahhh thx dekkard
[05:38] <Dekkard> np
[05:38] <Ayabara_> I'm having some network problems. Is there a way to view available wireless networks?
[05:38] <BluesKaj> dunno about ogm
[05:38] <kellen> walmart sells computers for $200?
[05:39] <masterk> hmm...
[05:39] <sybux> Captain_Haddock: thx it's ok now
[05:40] <Captain_Haddock> sybux: cool :)
[05:40] <Captain_Haddock> masterk: what exactly happens when you use VLC?
[05:40] <masterk> the video runs choppy
[05:40] <sybux> any1 play Wow under wine ?
[05:40] <Moduliz0r> hell no
[05:41] <Captain_Haddock> masterk: ah. Your graphics card is all set up right?
[05:41] <masterk> I have no clue...
[05:42] <Captain_Haddock> masterk: That would be a good thing to check.
[05:43] <BluesKaj> sorry kellen, walmart did sell a 200buck pc at one time...IC they've upscaled a bit
[05:43] <masterk> the video seems to work fine when I play videos on youtube...
[05:43] <masterk> that uses a flash video player
[05:43] <conax> I'm from Germany there is now wal mart in the near
[05:43] <Captain_Haddock> Ah
[05:43] <masterk> and I don't feel like disasembling flash code to figure out he settings
[05:43] <Captain_Haddock> masterk: have you tried mplayer?
[05:44] <toxidas> hi y'all
[05:44] <BluesKaj> conax,  you should be glad :) ...walmart does damage to local economies
[05:44] <Captain_Haddock> aye
[05:44] <masterk> mplayer.... I think I've heard of that.... wasn't it a windows app that looked like windows media player from windows 98?
[05:44] <toxidas> i cannot work beryl i could yesterday tough
[05:44] <Captain_Haddock> masterk: that's a different one
[05:44] <toxidas> i have a message saying :beryl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/beryl/libbench.so: undefined symbol: benchGetOutput_console
[05:44] <macke> Does Google Sketchup work with Wine?
[05:45] <fjella> speak anyone german??
[05:45] <toxidas> what does it mean ?? anyone please
[05:45] <Captain_Haddock> masterk: www.mplayerhq.hu
[05:45] <fjella> somebody
[05:45] <Eric1979> hi guys im trying to install NVIDIA drivers but its telling me im running an X server and to quit it before running the driver setup how do i go about doing that ????
[05:45] <masterk> Right now I'm running on an 8GB partition to figure out everything so when I install to the new 80GB hard drive I know what to do
[05:46] <Captain_Haddock> fjella: I think there might be a german channel.
[05:46] <Captain_Haddock> !de
[05:46] <masterk> let me chack out that site..
[05:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:46] <macke> Any good alternative too Google Sketchup for Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[05:46] <Captain_Haddock> whee
[05:46] <llp78> Eric1979 look into run levesl - you need to drop into text mode only
[05:46] <Captain_Haddock> masterk: check your package manager too
[05:46] <timmay> hey so ubuntu is supposed to be geard towards people that are used to linux based OS so they can get a feel for like Windows OS right?
[05:46] <masterk> I know I can install it by going into adept...
[05:47] <Eric1979> llp78 ok so how do i do that lol ???
[05:47] <macke> !info sketchup
[05:47] <ubotu> Package sketchup does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:47] <macke> !info Cad/Cam
[05:47] <ubotu> Package cadcam does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:47] <macke> !info cad
[05:47] <ubotu> Package cad does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:47] <Ayabara_> I can ping my router now, but when I try another address I get "connect: Network is unreachable". any tips?
[05:47] <macke> !info CAM
[05:48] <ubotu> cam: Cpu's Audio Mixer for Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.05-8 (feisty), package size 16 kB, installed size 100 kB
[05:48] <llp78> Eric1979 runlevel --help into a terminal
[05:48] <macke> Bah!
[05:48] <fjella> thx.....my englisch is to bad
[05:48] <Eric1979> llp78 ok thanks
[05:48] <toxidas> anybody can help me solve this??
[05:48] <masterk> NOW I remember where I heard mplayer from, I was attempting to setup one of my computers as a media PC once and I saw this as one of the possible media players
[05:50] <Captain_Haddock> timmay: um, the other way around perhaps.
[05:50] <masterk> what is the most stable release yet?
[05:50] <macke> Does anyone know a good alternative for Google Skethup for Kubuntu?
[05:50] <masterk> of kubuntu I mean
[05:50] <Captain_Haddock> Ayabara_: Perrin, another IP?
[05:50] <Captain_Haddock> masterk: 7 / Feisty
[05:51] <Captain_Haddock> oh
[05:51] <masterk> wow... I have 6.06 right at the moment
[05:51] <Captain_Haddock> I misread your question.. It is the _latest_ release. As for stability, I will know in the next couple of weeks :)
[05:51] <llp78> Eric1979: the command is "sudo init 1"
[05:52] <masterk> lol
[05:52] <Ayabara_> Captain_Haddock: what do you mean? I can ping an external ip from my winpc, but not from kubuntu
[05:52] <conax> can somebody (forgot the user name) the java link again
[05:52] <|lostbyte|> are't there any updates for edgy, adept asks me to upgrade to feisty every time i update the repositories.
[05:52] <Captain_Haddock> !java
[05:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:52] <conax> thx
[05:53] <macke> !info cedega-CVS
[05:53] <ubotu> Package cedega-cvs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:53] <masterk> !edgy
[05:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the 5th release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:53] <macke> !info cedega
[05:53] <masterk> so edgy is the latest stable version?
[05:53] <ubotu> Package cedega does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:53] <Captain_Haddock> Ayabara_: I thought you might have been pinging a domain name instead (with DNS issues)
[05:53] <jitendra> hi all.
[05:54] <masterk> !stable
[05:54] <jitendra> i have some problem with my vlc
[05:54] <Ayabara_> Captain_Haddock: ah. I tried pinging the ip instead cause I suspected the same
[05:54] <AFaith> i've got a very good tutorial that can help you make a voice call answering machine form your linux box/server
[05:54] <Captain_Haddock> Ayabara_: if you can ping the router and not other addresses, it's very likely a firewall / routing issue, no?
[05:54] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:54] <AFaith> http://www.vocpsystem.com here is the link
[05:54] <AFaith> maybe someone will be interested in this :P
[05:54] <Captain_Haddock> Ayabara_: tried a traceroute?
[05:54] <masterk> hmm...
[05:55] <Ayabara_> Captain_Haddock: no, cause I have no idea what it is :-) , seems some gateway and dns settings have disappeared here, so I'm trying to enter them again
[05:55] <Captain_Haddock> jitendra: don't we all?
[05:56] <macke> Anyone got Google SketchUp working in Wine?
[05:56] <Ayabara_> Captain_Haddock: the dns servers should be the same that windows uses, right? I'm not really rock solid on network issues
[05:56] <Ayabara_> :-)
[05:56] <Captain_Haddock> Ayabara_: yes, they should be the same. But it shouldn't affect pings.
[05:56] <masterk> interesting AFaith
[05:56] <Ayabara_> Captain_Haddock: it helped a lot to enter gateway adress :-)
[05:56] <Captain_Haddock> hehe
[05:57] <AFaith> masterk: i know :P i've even submitted that to stumble upon :P
[05:57] <Captain_Haddock> 14 more hours for the upgrade to finish :(
[05:57] <mymameman> hi all
[05:58] <masterk> too bad I don't have a phone line AFaith
[05:58] <Ayabara_> Captain_Haddock: I had another problem earlier, and tried going between DHCP and static ip. Think the network manager cleared some fields I did not want it to clear...
[05:58] <Ayabara_> thanks for caring ;)
[05:58] <mymameman> can somebody help me with beryl
[05:58] <Captain_Haddock> np, glad you're sorted :)
[05:58] <AFaith> masterk: if you manage to do that, please, let us know ... write a blog article, a wiki one or whatever you want :))
[05:58] <mymameman> 3 hours ago it was running
[05:58] <jitendra_> hello which player can play .avi format
[05:58] <AFaith> but let us know :P
[05:58] <AFaith> jitendra_: whatever player you want :)
[05:58] <AFaith> VLC, Kaffeine, MPlayer
[05:59] <AFaith> but you need codecs installed
[05:59] <jitendra_> in vlc it renders video but there is no sound
[05:59] <masterk> VLC has most codecs included
[05:59] <jitendra_> it plays all other formats properly
[05:59] <mymameman> now the problem is i cant apply any themes with emerald and suddenly beryl shows just 2 virtual desktops insted of 4
[05:59] <Captain_Haddock> I wonder if gspot works under WINE..
[05:59] <Ayabara_> Captain_Haddock: another Q though. The network config now has only the gateway address listed in DNS servers. Is this right?
[06:00] <masterk> Does anyone have experience with setting up thinkpads?
[06:00] <Captain_Haddock> Ayabara: the gateway address should be a separate field.
[06:00] <jitendra_> so do i need so codecs?
[06:00] <jitendra_> so do i need some codecs?
[06:00] <Ayabara> Captain_Haddock: I know. But the ip in DNS address field is the same as the one in the gateway field
[06:01] <AFaith> yes
[06:01] <Ayabara> and my browsers are really slow to decide where to go...
[06:01] <mymameman> can somebody help me with beryl?
[06:02] <Captain_Haddock> Ayabara: well, the DNS field should contain the DNS addresses. They should be the ones visible in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:02] <bader_> My desktop seems to lag when I scroll down a website, anyone know why this could be happeneing?
[06:02] <Captain_Haddock> Ayabara: as to what they are, that would depend on your configuration.
[06:02] <jitendra_> AFaith: thanks i will try that
[06:03] <AFaith> your welcome jitendra_!
[06:03] <Ayabara> it's the gateway address in resolv.conf as well. windows has two entirely different adresses.
[06:03] <Captain_Haddock> Ayabara: use the same ones as in Windows I reckon.
[06:03] <sparr> when i use grep on my irc logs i get truncation around control codes (color, bold, etc), how can i work around that?
[06:04] <Ayabara> Captain_Haddock: tried it and things are fast again  Guess I'll save it as a profile and never mention it again
[06:04] <mymameman> can somebody help me with beryl?
[06:05] <Captain_Haddock> cool. I also add opendns IPs in my resolv.conf as my ISP's DNS servers get fragged regularly.
[06:05] <mymameman> is there any beryl channel?
[06:05] <pag> !beryl | mymameman
[06:05] <ubotu> mymameman: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:06] <mymameman> i know that
[06:06] <mymameman> i just need to fix a problem
[06:06] <mymameman> thx for the info
[06:06] <Captain_Haddock> mymameman: from the only instance where I wasted my time on Beryl, the usual fix was to delete all the config files and restart :P
[06:06] <mymameman> lol
[06:07] <mymameman> 3 hours ago it was running
[06:07] <ForMatter> Anyone please help me,i cant change to administrator mode in system setting..
[06:07] <mymameman> now the problem is i cant apply any themes with emerald and suddenly beryl shows just 2 virtual desktops insted of 4
[06:08] <Captain_Haddock> mymameman: no idea.. as pag mentioned, try #ubuntu-effects I guess
[06:08] <mymameman> thx
[06:08] <pag> ForMatter, just open the system settings with admin priviledges. press alt+f2 and type kdesu systemsettings
[06:09] <Eric1979> can anyone tell me how to mount an iso as if it were a cd drive ??
[06:09] <ForMatter> Hello..Anyone please help me,i cant change to administrator mode in system setting..
[06:09] <ForMatter> I am using kubuntu 7.04
[06:10] <pag> Eric1979, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning
[06:10] <Eric1979> pag: thanks
[06:11] <jitendra_> mymameman: i had some similar problem. install compiz and then run beryl. i think that may work.
[06:11] <AFaith> oh my .. whats on the ubuntu channel
[06:13] <ironcladlou> is there some port of the default gnome/ubuntu icon theme for KDE? i don't even know what it's called
[06:13] <AFaith> hey, maybe you can help me, because there no one can is answering
[06:13] <pag> ironcladlou, you mean that brown theme?
[06:13] <ironcladlou> pag: i mean the icon theme, not the gtk WM theme
[06:14] <AFaith> hello people :) some friend of mine is having a nasty problem while trying to install ubuntu feisty fawn ... it keeps reciving this error while trying to enter the live cd mode. here is the error : http://www.pastebin.ca/497013
[06:14] <Eric1979> ok my image file is an MDS MDF file/s is there a way to mount them ??
[06:14] <AFaith> this is what i've wrote on #ubuntu and no one is answering :(
[06:15] <ironcladlou> what is the name of the default gnome/ubuntu icon theme (e.g., Tango)? i am looking for a KDE port
[06:15] <pag> ironcladlou, oh. well the theme is called Human; you could try searching kde-look.org
[06:15] <ironcladlou> pag: i was hunting around on there but didn't know what to search for, lemme give it a shot
[06:16] <ironcladlou> oops, i meant to paste that previous message into #ubuntu
[06:16] <timmay> Hey for WINE, how do you do the virtual desktop?
[06:17] <sybux> I'm trying to run WoW with wine unde ubuntu with a dual screen. My problem is that wow display on the 2 screens and I can't change to only 1
[06:17] <pag> ironcladlou, Default Gnome theme *is* Tango, default ubuntu's theme is Human. I know, that there's some god ports of Tango, but I'm not aware of any good Hu,am ports
[06:17] <macke> sybuk: Can WoW run smooth?
[06:17] <macke> under wine
[06:17] <ironcladlou> ahh
[06:18] <ironcladlou> maybe i'll give tango a shot and see how it looks
[06:19] <timmay> how do you create a virtual dektop with wine?
[06:20] <manu_> hi
[06:20] <Equ> Is it posible to not start kdm when i boot ubuntu?
[06:20] <manu_> i've installed a hp officejet all-in-one printer and its also a scanner included, printer works fine with cups, how can i get a scan of this machine?
[06:21] <manu_> Equ: bootcheats: init 3
[06:21] <manu_> then you get  no x and no kdm
[06:21] <sparr> firefox uses a different kde mouse cursor theme than every other application and the default on my system.  how can i fix that?
[06:22] <macke> I have installed Google Sketchup using wine. But how do i start it using the "-opengl"? i have tried wine googlesketchup6.exe -opengl but didnt work
[06:22] <dr_willis> Hmm.. what was the one package that let you set up one machine, on the lan to work as the apt 'cache' for the rest of the lan.
[06:22] <dr_willis> !apt
[06:22] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:22] <macke> !info wine
[06:23] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[06:23] <macke> !wine
[06:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:24] <ironcladlou> i have a pidgin .deb, but there are several dependencies which are unsatisfied... dpkg won't grab them automatically, so how do i install the thing?
[06:24] <delight> does skencil work on anybodys feisty/i386 installation ?
[06:24] <manu_> macke: the one of the kanotix irc?
[06:25] <pag> ironcladlou, where did you get the .deb from?
[06:25] <manu_> in freenode
[06:25] <ironcladlou> pag: getdebs.net or something
[06:25] <macke> manu: Nope :)
[06:25] <frojnd> why  I can't delete fileis from USB stick. I can only copy from it and paste on usb stick...
[06:25] <ironcladlou> also, i believe it has a gconf dependency... any idea if this is a library, or is it a service process to manage gconf interaction which is going to take memory?
[06:26] <Eric1979> how do i create a new folder ??
[06:26] <manu_> macke: ok ^^
[06:26] <ironcladlou> obviously i don't wanna have any gnome services running if i can get away with it
[06:26] <macke> Anyone got Sketchup working under Wine?
[06:27] <pag> ironcladlou, hmm.. you could try: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb; sudo apt-get install -f
[06:27] <masterk> !thinkpad
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thinkpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <masterk> !ibm
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ibm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <macke> !Sketchup
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sketchup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <ironcladlou> pag: ah ha! good idea
[06:28] <Graham> !pie
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <Graham> !linux
[06:28] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[06:28] <pag> !botabuse
[06:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:29] <Graham> !dicks
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dicks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <Graham> :P
[06:29] <mymameman> ok that did it but nowi have the adept notifier icon in the upper left corner and i cant move or close it usually that should be down in the system tray
[06:29] <ironcladlou> pag: bah, as i suspected, now i have a gconf2 service running always
[06:29] <ironcladlou> it's tiny, luckily
[06:30] <pag> ironcladlou, if you don't want gnome processes, the I'd suggest not to install gnome-applications ;)
[06:30] <ironcladlou> one more random question, this time about kwin: it seems to be doing a really crappy job deciding where to put new windows. usually it tosses them in an extreme corner of the screen
[06:30] <ironcladlou> pag: as soon as they make a KPidgin using libpurple... :)
[06:31] <ironcladlou> i did notice that fvwm4 was also doing the annoying extreme corner placement thing when i was in gnome the other day, but i was able to configure its "smart placement" options to prevent it
[06:31] <ironcladlou> i don't see any kwin options to configure how it places windows
[06:34] <masterk> what is the command to see the current channels on a server?
[06:36] <timmay> ok i installed wine through the add/remove programs in kubuntu (feisty fawn) but how do I make one of the desktops look like windows xp?
[06:37] <stevec_> timmay: it doesnt do that
[06:38] <timmay> how does it work then?....i'm a windows user trying to learn more about linux....so i'm not sure how everything works
[06:38] <stevec_> !wine
[06:38] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:38] <timmay> ty
[06:38] <stevec_> timmay: it used for running windows programs, e.g. ms office. it doesnt actually make your desktop look any different
[06:40] <timmay> oh ok...well i'm doing a dual boot and have by primary drive still setup with windows xp, so would I be able to use the programs on that drive using wine?
[06:41] <stevec_> timmay: you'd have to install them again in you linux partition
[06:41] <timmay> ok great, thanks for the info :)
[06:42] <Equ> Do i need to download the nvidia driver from nvidia.com? because i cant get the driver from apt-get to work.
[06:44] <mweijts> !firewall
[06:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:45] <Equ> !nvidia
[06:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:49] <macke> Anybody know of a good alternative for Sketchup?
[06:52] <PhinnFort> macke: what is ketchup?
[06:52] <timmay> where's the task manager? LOL
[06:52] <timmay> oh man i'm too used to xp
[06:52] <sparr> macke: povray or blender, depending on how you prefer to work
[06:52] <PhinnFort> timmay: control+esc
[06:52] <timmay> awesome
[06:52] <timmay> i'm lovin this OS
[06:52] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:53] <macke> sparr: Thanks will check them out, needs to be fast and pretty straight forward
[06:53] <PhinnFort> timmay: if you want pritti graphs and stuff, start ksysguard from the menu
[06:53] <PhinnFort> !3d
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <sparr> macke: neither of them are  :)
[06:53] <os2mac> anyone having problems getting onto Undernet?
[06:53] <os2mac> the proxyscanner is klining me.
[06:53] <JohnFlux> timmay: press ctrl+esc
[06:53] <timmay> lol
[06:53] <timmay> thanks
[06:53] <macke> sparr: hehe well i aint to old too learn something new :)
[06:53] <josh_> hye
[06:54] <josh_> im trying to use ndiswrapper
[06:54] <josh_> and i just installed it
[06:54] <PhinnFort> macke: Blender is great, but it requires some time to learn, and povray is operated using scripts/text files
[06:54] <josh_> but its saying no versions of ndiswrapper found
[06:54] <josh_> why can't it find it? do i need to reboot or somthing?
[06:54] <PhinnFort> macke: you can also try wings3d, I haven't played with it much myself, but I've heard much good about it
[06:54] <PhinnFort> !info ndiswrapper
[06:54] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:55] <josh_> its ndiswrapper-common that i installed
[06:55] <josh_> so what command would i use to run it
[06:55] <PhinnFort> !ndiswrapper
[06:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:55] <macke> PhinnFort: Okey thanks. will check it out
[06:56] <josh_> ah there is a graphical frontend and a source package
[06:57] <korobase> Hi,all
[06:57] <josh_> ok its verking now
[06:58] <nicolai_> Hey
[06:58] <PhinnFort> !hi | nicolai_
[06:58] <ubotu> nicolai_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:58] <nicolai_> :P
[06:58] <korobase> How to make the environment parameter take action need no logout.
[06:59] <nicolai_> My /media directory has obtained some clutter. I have three folders from external harddrives that are no longer used for mount.
[06:59] <PhinnFort> korobase: export $THINGY=lol
[07:00] <sivaji> hi
[07:00] <PhinnFort> !hi | sivaji
[07:00] <ubotu> sivaji: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:00] <nicolai_> When the drives aren't mounted, the clutter appears as simle folders, and when i mount a drive, the drive uses foldername-1 instead
[07:00] <PhinnFort> nicolai_: just delete the folders, then
[07:01] <korobase> PhinnFort:what is the lol mean?
[07:01] <korobase> and so the $THINGY
[07:01] <nicolai_> Can i remove them safely without having trouble with my external drives afterwards?
[07:02] <nicolai_> I've become fairly nervous when it comes to messing with the /media folder :P
[07:02] <macke> !electric
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about electric - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <korobase> PhinnFort:what is the lol mean? and so the $THINGY
[07:04] <korobase> Please help me!
[07:05] <Mo0oSaH> Why does my notebook run really hot?  Are there any tweaks that would run it cooler?
[07:05] <PhinnFort> korobase: export just sets an environment variable
[07:07] <masterk> how do I set my clock to 12 hour instead of military 24 hour?
[07:08] <masterk> !clock
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <korobase> Hi,The Konversation just crashed.I don't get the last answer.Please type again.Thanks a lot!
[07:08] <PhinnFort> masterk: try right-clicking on the clock and look at the settings
[07:08] <masterk> I did
[07:08] <PhinnFort> MinceR: plastic is more organic than
[07:08] <PhinnFort> [19:05]  <PhinnFort> korobase: export just sets an environment variable
[07:09] <nipolo> hi there! when i want to download somethink on my partition there was an error. i THINK that the problem is because the type of the partition is ntfs
[07:09] <korobase> I know the export mean.But
[07:10] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> i'm back
[07:10] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> from that amarok crash
[07:10] <korobase> When I login again.The opened shell show me...
[07:10] <korobase> bash: export: `=lol': not a valid identifier
[07:10] <korobase> PhinnFort:How to fix this?
[07:10] <Trickser> Hi, I am using the nvidia modules from linux-restricted-modules but when I recover from hibernation I got distorted colors in X and it is better to restart the server. Any suggestions? Thanks
[07:11] <nicolai_> nipolo: internal ntfs drive? Is it mounted?
[07:11] <nipolo> yes
[07:12] <nicolai_> nipolo: Do you have write access?
[07:12] <PhinnFort> korobase: drop the $
[07:13] <nicolai_> nipolo: internal NTFS drives are easy to mount, but they require a bit more to write to them.
[07:13] <korobase> PhinnFort: export THINGY=lol ,Right?
[07:13] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> thats easy nicolai_..all you need is to install NTFS controller thing,,you can easily find that on adept
[07:14] <PhinnFort> korobase: replace THINGY with the name of the variable and lol with the value of the variable
[07:14] <nicolai_> nipolo: yeah, if you know its there ;)
[07:15] <andreasw> how can I say konqueror to ignore mime types and always display the save as file dialog
[07:15] <korobase> Oh.Maybe I should talk about What I need again!
[07:15] <PhinnFort> andreasw: maybe ask in #kde
[07:15] <nicolai_> nipolo: Besides, I've had a few problems where i had the drive mounted using "disk and filesystems" and then ran ntfs-config.
[07:16] <felix> how do you install sun3 .. ?
[07:16] <PhinnFort> !info sun3
[07:16] <ubotu> Package sun3 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:16] <felix> damn
[07:16] <korobase> I want set a variable and let it take action right.I hope it is no need to logout and login.
[07:17] <PhinnFort> korobase: ?
[07:17] <nipolo> nicolai_: and what to do?
[07:17] <PhinnFort> korobase: to set an environment variable, use "export"
[07:17] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> nicolai_: ..easy...press alt+f1..then there, you'll find it there
[07:17] <korobase> I know using the export.
[07:17] <nipolo> nicolai_: i've mounted that
[07:17] <korobase> But this must logout and login again.It take action.
[07:18] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> nicolai_: ah ic..but what you haven't done yet is writing to it ?
[07:18] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> hey..anybody got some solution to why my system crashes when I run amarok?
[07:18] <PhinnFort> korobase: use .bashrc
[07:18] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> I'm using kubuntu 7.0.4
[07:18] <PhinnFort> the file
[07:18] <PhinnFort> !fixamarokcrashinfeisty
[07:18] <nicolai_> DRUNKENSTEIN: I don't have any problems at the moment :)  It was on my sisters computer
[07:19] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> this is a fresh install ..but damn.. I'm thinking about shifting back to SUSE
[07:19] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> nicolai_: oh cool .. good for you
[07:20] <nipolo> nicolai_: i also have win xp on this pc
[07:20] <nicolai_> nipolo: If you mounted using "system settings" first, then I would unmount, delete any settings of the drive, and then run ntfs-config again.
[07:22] <nipolo> nicolai_: how to do that?
[07:23] <_Fade> hello
[07:23] <nipolo> nicolai_: this is my second day i have linux
[07:23] <nipolo> nicolai_: i don't know how to unmount "system settings"
[07:24] <nipolo> by using adept?
[07:24] <nipolo> or somethink else?
[07:25] <nicolai_> nipolo: hehe, no. I meant unmounting the drive and then open system settings to remove information about the drive
[07:25] <josh_> ok
[07:25] <Rictoo_> what's the shortcut for getting out of an app? It's [something] +X
[07:25] <josh_> i just installed ndiswrapper and installed the drivers
[07:25] <josh_> i assigned the device to the driver
[07:25] <josh_> but knetworkmanager doesnt see a wireless device
[07:25] <Rictoo_> what's the shortcut for getting out of an app? It's [something] +X
[07:26] <nicolai_> nipolo: system settings' -> 'advanced' -> disk & filesystems -> admin -> click on ntfs-drive -> click remove (i think that is the name. I'm using a different language)
[07:27] <nicolai_> nipolo: Remember to unmount first
[07:27] <nipolo> thanks but how to unmount this?
[07:28] <nicolai_> nipolo: go to media:/ or /media
[07:28] <nipolo> and?
[07:29] <nicolai_> nipolo: right click on the icon and click 'safely remove'
[07:29] <nicolai_> nipolo: or possibly unmount
[07:29] <nipolo> nicolai_: aha
[07:30] <nipolo> thanks very much :)
[07:31] <nicolai_> nipolo: I hope this solved the problem. I have to go soon, so if there is anything else, I might not have time to answer.
[07:32] <nipolo> nicolai_: ok ;)
[07:32] <timmay> oh man...who is willing to help a real life noob :/
[07:32] <ulrich> hey guys anyone know what i can do? i want to talk on skype but the other one cant hear me
[07:34] <timmay> you have skype?
[07:34] <timmay> lol you're ahead of me :)
[07:34] <ulrich> i have skype
[07:34] <ulrich> the kubuntu version of course
[07:34] <PhinnFort> !skype
[07:34] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:35] <ulrich> argh okay
[07:35] <felix> Hwo can help me to install gcc ?
[07:35] <Graham> !gcc
[07:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:36] <felix> thanks
[07:36] <PhinnFort> felix: build-essential
[07:37] <timmay> this is going to sound real dumb but.....i just downloaded real player, how do i install it >.<
[07:37] <PhinnFort> !realplayer
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <timmay> right, i have the .bin file, but don't know how to install it
[07:37] <timmay> i'm a regular window user
[07:38] <PhinnFort> timmay: why do you want the real player?
[07:38] <DJServers> !BadDevice
[07:38] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[07:38] <mymameman> ok that did it but nowi have the adept notifier icon in the upper left corner and i cant move or close it usually that should be down in the system tray
[07:38] <PhinnFort> timmay: if you can avoid it, that would be the best
[07:38] <PhinnFort> mymameman: can't you right-click on it?
[07:38] <timmay> i'm trying to watch a trailer for a movie off the blockbuster.com site and needs winmedia or real player
[07:38] <DJServers> !xampp
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <PhinnFort> timmay: afaik, realplayer can't play anything that Kaffeine or MPlayer can't play
[07:39] <nipolo> nicolai_: i was surprised by tih error:
[07:39] <nipolo> Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab
[07:39] <aaroncampbell> what package(s) do I need to get mysql.h, my_global.h, m_ctype.h my_sys.h, and m_string.h?
[07:39] <timmay> !afaik
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <timmay> lol
[07:40] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: use packages.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <andre> I was wondering how to prevent a loop sound that occurs after the computer is left on over night with ubuntu
[07:40] <felix> Everytime i want to install a package i get : .. "E: Couldn't find package ..... " :(
[07:40] <PhinnFort> !repositories | felix
[07:40] <ubotu> felix: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:41] <PhinnFort> felix: make sure your repositories are set up correctly
[07:41] <timmay> PhinnFort: if i have a link from blockbuster.com to "watch a trailer" how do i play it in kaffeine?
[07:41] <PhinnFort> timmay: can you give me the link?
[07:42] <DJServers> how to save xorg.conf ?? it says: Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[07:42] <PhinnFort> DJServers: you must remember "kdesu kate"
[07:42] <DJServers> oyeah :P
[07:42] <timmay> PhinnFort: http://www.blockbuster.com/catalog/movieDetails/288278
[07:42] <DJServers> i just cant put it in my head :P
[07:43] <PhinnFort> timmay: it plays just fine here
[07:43] <PhinnFort> timmay: i just click "watch trailer", "next"
[07:43] <Dekkard> DJServers:  what editor are you using?
[07:43] <PhinnFort> using windows media format
[07:43] <DJServers> kate
[07:43] <DJServers> but do i typ: kdesu kate xorg.conf ??
[07:43] <timmay> PhinnFort: ok thanks
[07:43] <Dekkard> when you edit a .conf file not in your home dir.. youneed access.. so you need to start kate with: kdesu
[07:43] <PhinnFort> DJServers: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:44] <PhinnFort> timmay: does it work?
[07:44] <timmay> PhinnFort: it's bringing up the window to play it ok, but there is no video
[07:44] <DJServers> yeah it works thx
[07:45] <PhinnFort> timmay: have you installed the video codecs et al?
[07:45] <timmay> PhinnFort: ....
[07:45] <timmay> lol
[07:45] <PhinnFort> timmay: i select "300k Windows Media Broad Stream", and click play;)
[07:45] <DJServers> !BadDevice
[07:45] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[07:45] <PhinnFort> timmay: follow the instructions on this site to get them: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:45] <timmay> i've only had kubuntu for 2 days and have only been using windows since....3.0....so i'm not sure what i'm doing yet
[07:46] <busfahrer> Hi, is there any way to disable the behaviour that when I click on a window in the taskbar that is already active, that it gets minimised? I looked around 'Window behaviour' and couldn't find anything.
[07:46] <DJServers> when i change it i have to restart my xserver by closing session and re loggin in right?
[07:46] <PhinnFort> busfahrer: try asking in #kde
[07:47] <timmay> PhinnFort: ok i'll see if i can figure it out from the site :)
[07:47] <busfahrer> PhinnFort: They don't answer me :-)
[07:47] <PhinnFort> timmay: it shouldn't be hard
[07:47] <Lynoure> busfahrer: it's in Configure Taskbar
[07:47] <PhinnFort> busfahrer: I don't think it's possible, but I don't know everything, though
[07:47] <DJServers> PhinnFort, i now have to restart my xserver right by relogging?
[07:47] <DJServers> brb
[07:47] <PhinnFort> DJServers: log out, hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:47] <busfahrer> Lynoure: I looked through there, which option is it, I think I'm too stupid :-P
[07:47] <PhinnFort> log in again
[07:48] <Lynoure> busfahrer: "Action: Left button"
[07:48] <busfahrer> Lynoure: Thanks!
[07:48] <hangthedj> does anybody know how to fix a 30 gig stderr and stdout file?
[07:50] <DJServers> yo i am back\
[07:50] <Dekkard> hangthedj:  thats a big file
[07:51] <hangthedj> Dekkard: yeah i was converting midi files to mp3 and soundKonverter made those files so big
[07:52] <DJServers> but how to open a file in: /home/frank/xampp-linux-1.6.1 ??
[07:52] <Dekkard> jaysus
[07:52] <sybux> I need some help configuring Kontact can someone help me ?
[07:52] <Dekkard> any chance you can start over?
[07:52] <Dekkard> lol
[07:52] <DJServers> ?
[07:52] <PhinnFort> !someone
[07:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:52] <aleksanteri> !ask | sybux
[07:52] <ubotu> sybux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:52] <delight> !skencil
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skencil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <sybux> correct !!!
[07:52] <PhinnFort> !info skencil | delight
[07:53] <ubotu> delight: skencil: Interactive vector drawing program for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.17-7build1 (feisty), package size 959 kB, installed size 4892 kB
[07:53] <delight> PhinnFort: is you skecil working on your feisty/i386 ? ... mine is crashing coredump on start
[07:53] <PhinnFort> delight: i don't use skencil
[07:53] <PhinnFort> i use inkscape
[07:53] <sybux> I'm using Kontact to read IMAP mail. I'd like Kontact move all mail marked as SPAM by spamassasin to specific folder
[07:53] <buz> for 3rd time today, my x session didnt respond to keyboard entries anymore, mouse still worked, switching to text console worked with k menu, where keyboard worked.
[07:53] <buz> anything i can do to fix that?
[07:54] <delight> PhinnFort: Inkscape is the best even thou Xara Xtreme has some nice features
[07:54] <stevec_> sybux: do this using procmail
[07:54] <DJServers> damn
[07:54] <DJServers> couldend start apache :(
[07:54] <sybux> stevec_: nope : postfix
[07:54] <PhinnFort> delight: tried it, it was very smooth, but it did lack some features compared to inkscape
[07:55] <stevec_> sybux: you use procmail to move your mail to folder
[07:55] <sybux> stevec_: under windows I use Thunderbird and it's working fine. I just want to retreive the same
[07:55] <stevec_> sybux: i have the following in my ~/.procmailrc
[07:55] <stevec_> sybux: edit ~/.procmailrc and enter the folowwing
[07:55] <ReMiiRuru> I have big problem with nvidia drivers, which might be kernel or BIOS bug, but it's too much to describe, so if anyone feels like helping I can give them more details... So, anyone?
[07:55] <timmay> PhinnFort: omg it's so much easier than windows O.O LOL
[07:56] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:56] <PhinnFort> welcome to the light side;)
[07:56] <stevec_> sybux:
[07:56] <stevec_> MAILDIR=$HOME/.maildir/
[07:56] <stevec_> DEFAULT=$MAILDIR
[07:56] <stevec_> SPAM_FOLDER= $MAILDIR/.Spam/
[07:56] <timmay> ;)
[07:56] <stevec_> :0:
[07:56] <stevec_> * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
[07:56] <stevec_> $SPAM_FOLDER
[07:57] <PhinnFort> !pastebin | stevec_
[07:57] <ubotu> stevec_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:57] <stevec_> i kna man, pastebin easnt working tho and couldnt be arsed to fanny about finding another one
[07:57] <PhinnFort> stevec_: ask, then
[07:57] <sybux> stevec_: I don't have mailbox on my computer. It's on a remote computer so I haven't any local .maildir
[07:57] <PhinnFort> rafb.net/paste
[07:58] <stevec_> sybux: ah ok then
[07:58] <_Fade> hi everyone, im having trouble installing kubuntu on an IBM Netvista 8319-M1G PC, can anyone help?
[07:58] <timmay> whoa WTF....i haven't had sound all day and every sound just went through the speaker at once....i hope that's not normal
[07:58] <timmay> LOL
[07:58] <PhinnFort> _Fade: elaborate?
[07:58] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | ReMiiRuru stevec
[07:58] <ubotu> ReMiiRuru stevec: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:58] <stevec_> BluesKaj: ive already been told man!
[07:58] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:58] <BluesKaj> pastebin.ca is faster , not as busy
[07:58] <PhinnFort> anyone know where I can get new blender debs?
[07:59] <PhinnFort> for 2.44
[07:59] <PhinnFort> rafb.net/paste is my favourite;)
[07:59] <_Fade> im using the desktop disc of feisty, it boots to the install menu ok, an i hit enter to continue the installation, after that the screen goes black, theres some disc activity an then it just stays like that
[08:00] <PhinnFort> _Fade: how much ram is it on the computer you're trying to install to?
[08:00] <_Fade> 786 mb
[08:00] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> did you check your media?
[08:00] <ReMiiRuru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21590/ This is more detailed info on my problem then.
[08:00] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort, maybe the ops should load it in the ubotu scrpts
[08:00] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> perhaps it's hust had some scratch on it ..or something like that
[08:00] <stevec_> might as well ask my own question, the boot splash installed by default doesnt seem to like my monitor, out of range message and i just get a blank screen, i have to disable spalsh in grub.conf
[08:00] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: well, I don't care to bother #ubuntu-ops now;)
[08:00] <_Fade> the specs of the machine are fine
[08:00] <DJServers> damn
[08:00] <DJServers> !apache
[08:00] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:00] <stevec_> anyway of fixing that?
[08:01] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> hey.. anybody here using a freshly installed kubuntu? aside from me
[08:01] <UKESN|Javax> bbs going for dinner
[08:01] <DJServers> damn
[08:01] <DJServers> i have install lampp but only apache wond start :P
[08:01] <stevec_> DRUNKENTSTEIN: mine is frshly installed on this comp
[08:01] <_Fade> DRUNKENTSTEIN: trying to m8, cant get it installed
[08:01] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> cool..same here
[08:01] <PhinnFort> _Fade: did you run a cd-check?
[08:01] <Jacko2007> drunkentstein, mine is about 4 weeks old
[08:01] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> hey...did you get mp3 support running for amarok?
[08:01] <Jacko2007> I have lost my WINE shortcuts in my start menu
[08:01] <PhinnFort> DJServers: try Lighttpd
[08:01] <Jacko2007> drunkentstein, mine is about 4 weeks old
[08:01] <stevec_> DRUNKENTSTEIN: i got mp3 working in amarok
[08:01] <josh_> guys
[08:02] <_Fade> PhinnFort: no havent tried that
[08:02] <Jacko2007> drunkentstein, installing the mpegcodec
[08:02] <PhinnFort> DJServers: also, try "sudo /etc/init.d/apache start"
[08:02] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> oh..you didn't havea provlme?
[08:02] <josh_> is there a way to tell adept to look for a package that has been updated
[08:02] <stevec_> DRUNKENTSTEIN: remember the problem but not the solution! :-)
[08:02] <PhinnFort> _Fade: could be a bad burn
[08:02] <Black_Mask> how to install windows xp after installing ubuntu?
[08:02] <Jacko2007> sudo apt-get install mpeg-codec
[08:02] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> I mean ..problem ?
[08:02] <josh_> cuz ndiswrapper is 1.38 on there but there is 1.44 on the site
[08:02] <Jacko2007> I have lost my WINE shortcuts in my start menu
[08:02] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> 'cause mine just hangs up whenever I run amarok
[08:02] <Jacko2007> what should I do
[08:02] <josh_> there have been a few releases since then
[08:02] <stevec_> Jacko2007: what start menu? this isnt windows man! :-)
[08:02] <_Fade> PhinnFort: hmm, ive tried three diff distros so far, kubuntu, ubuntu an PClinuxOS
[08:03] <Jacko2007> stevec, ok then K menu lol I am a windows and a linux users give me some slack lol
[08:03] <DJServers> PhinnFort, That Dusnt Work
[08:03] <stevec_> lol ;-)
[08:03] <_Fade> PhinnFort: an im currently downloading the alterate kubuntu disc
[08:03] <sybux> DRUNKENTSTEIN: have try to run in a shell /usr/lib/amarok/install-mp3 script ?
[08:03] <masterk> !time
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <masterk> !clock
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <stevec_> !ntp
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> sybux: yeps..it hangs up after I run that
[08:04] <mo0osah_> how do share files with virtualbox
[08:04] <Jacko2007> !ntp
[08:04] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> actually..that's how it started.. at first, it runs ok.. and can play tha sample file
[08:04] <masterk> !ibm thinkpad
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ibm thinkpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <sybux> DRUNKENTSTEIN: strange, I've run it this afternoon and all was perfect
[08:04] <stevec_> !anything
[08:04] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[08:04] <stevec_> :-)
[08:04] <masterk> lol
[08:04] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> but after it prompts you to install that support, it hangs my pc
[08:04] <ReMiiRuru> So, anyone has any idead on nvidia problem described here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21590/ ?
[08:05] <ReMiiRuru> *ideas
[08:05] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> sybux: really? ..I just installed my.. and actually that's one of the main reasons why I'm here right now..ehehhe
[08:05] <sybux> DRUNKENTSTEIN: not in shell it just install and do not ask any question
[08:05] <BluesKaj> ReMiiRuru, have you tried Envy : http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[08:05] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> sybux: yeps.. tried that too.. same thing happens
[08:05] <Jacko2007> I have lost my WINE shortcuts in my k menu
[08:05] <ReMiiRuru> BluesKaj: First, yes, I did, 2nd, it's one of least reccomended way of install AFAIK
[08:05] <DRUNKENTSTEIN> I'm trying to find out why ..so I can use amarok
[08:06] <Alonea> ok, my friend tried to use envy to get 3d accel on his nvidia card, but it didn't work. I don't know the name of driver it was before. Vesa works, but the screen is huge, nv didn't work...so what is it supposed to be?
[08:06] <orehon> How can I lock the kde session when the laptop is closed?
[08:06] <masterk> !amarok
[08:06] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[08:06] <PhinnFort> i think envy is deprecated
[08:06] <masterk> !envy
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <Alonea> I mean on mine, I just changed it back to ati, and it was fine again. I use envy on mine without problems
[08:07] <BluesKaj> ReMiiRuru, the ati driver Envy install didn't provide DRI for google earth so i dumped envy
[08:07] <PhinnFort> !nvidia
[08:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:08] <Quassandra> hey, has anyone got any problems with ubuntu when i boot from a cd to install it says "Loading the Linux kernal" but it just freezez at 100% and goes nowhere, any idea's?
[08:08] <ReMiiRuru> PhinnFort: Following instructions on the link provided by bot gives me the same problems as any other form of installation.
[08:09] <timmay> PhinnFort: i'm getting an error when i install that program
[08:09] <PhinnFort> timmay: ?
[08:09] <Alonea> PhinnFort: ok, that doesa not tell me what the original name of the driver was...
[08:09] <timmay> PhinnFort: gonna try the ol windows fix, uninstall and reinstall LOL
[08:09] <timmay> PhinnFort: the video codec
[08:09] <PhinnFort> ;)
[08:09] <andre> how do you configure ubuntu to start certain programs on start-up?
[08:10] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[08:10] <BluesKaj> ReMiiRuru, just keep searching google ..that's how i found a fix for my ati card on feisty
[08:10] <PhinnFort> andre: put a link to them in "~/.kde/Autostart", where ~ is your home folder
[08:10] <andre> thanks
[08:10] <ReMiiRuru> BluesKaj: I tried searching google for 2 weeks now.
[08:13] <x3x> ciao
[08:13] <timmay> PhinnFort: the codec isn't installling, it keeps giving an error
[08:14] <PhinnFort> timmay: what exactly are you doing?
[08:15] <BluesKaj> ReMiiRuru, http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#nvidia-driv
[08:15] <timmay> going to the add/remove program and adding Ubuntu restricted extras package
[08:15] <timmay> when i apply the changes it goes through like it's working and then doesn't work
[08:15] <PhinnFort> timmay: and what error is it giving you?
[08:15] <timmay> let me go through it again real quick
[08:17] <PhinnFort> timmay: we'll cheat, then;)
[08:18] <timmay> PhinnFort: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[08:18] <DJServers> YES!!! MY APACHE IS WORKING!!! YEEHAA!!!\
[08:18] <PhinnFort> timmay: just type "sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs" in a konsole
[08:19] <DJServers> thx for your help all!
[08:19] <timmay> ok trying that
[08:20] <PhinnFort> timmay: that's what I did to get the codecs, anyways, and it works here
[08:22] <BluesKaj> !fix-lockup
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-lockup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <os2mac> trying to get java runtime installed on firefox under kubuntu.... can anyone help?
[08:22] <BluesKaj> !adept-lock
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <PhinnFort> !java | os2mac
[08:22] <ubotu> os2mac: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:23] <timmay> PhinnFort: *sigh* now when i click to play the trailer using real 300k it is saying i'm missing plugins
[08:23] <masterk> does anyone know how to make standby, suspend, and hibernate work on an ibm thinkpad?
[08:23] <timmay> instead of using kaffeine
[08:23] <nicolai_> timmay: have you remembered to add the medibuntu key?
[08:23] <PhinnFort> timmay: hmmm...
[08:23] <BluesKaj> !apt-lock
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <PhinnFort> !medibuntu
[08:23] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:23] <BluesKaj> geezus
[08:24] <nicolai_> BluesKaj: is Adept locked-up?
[08:24] <Alonea> ook, on the binary driver how to, it says goto system, administration, but i dont have that
[08:24] <PhinnFort> timmay: run "wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" in a console
[08:24] <PhinnFort> timmay: then run "sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[08:24] <os2mac> PhinnFort: I believe I have java installed in Kubuntu correctly... what I am trying to do is install it on Firefox under kubuntu
[08:25] <PhinnFort> os2mac: I don't use Firefox, but I think you might have to enable it somewhere
[08:25] <PhinnFort> timmay: and finally run "sudo apt-get update"
[08:25] <DJServers> i have one last question
[08:25] <timmay> k i'll try it
[08:25] <DJServers> how to put files in apache for sites?
[08:25] <nicolai_> timmay: after you follow PhinnForts advise remember to update your repositories
[08:26] <DJServers> i can put a map in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[08:26] <PhinnFort> nicolai_: that was the last command;)
[08:26] <DJServers> cant
[08:26] <os2mac> ok this is where... I click on manage repositories in Adept and it get updates...
[08:26] <os2mac> s/where/weird
[08:26] <DJServers> how do i put a map in: /etc/apache2/sites-available it says that i sould check permissions
[08:27] <BluesKaj> nicolai_, I'm trying to trigger the obuto response to an adept or apt lockup when a broken pkg has frozen it
[08:27] <nicolai_> PhinnFort: I just didn't see the last part :p
[08:27] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:27] <nicolai_> BluesKaj: I know how to fix that
[08:27] <nicolai_> 2 sec
[08:27] <PhinnFort> timmay: there should appear a tiny yellow package in the lower right corner of your screen after the last command is finished. Click it, and update
[08:27] <PhinnFort> but now I have to go
[08:27] <BluesKaj> ok give us the cmnd so we can sote it in my txt file
[08:28] <BluesKaj> store it
[08:28] <Lars_G> I am not god
[08:28] <nicolai_> BluesKaj: first you need to remove the lock
[08:28] <nicolai_> BluesKaj: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:29] <nicolai_> BluesKaj: then you need to fix the broken dependencies
[08:29] <nicolai_> BluesKaj: dpkg --configure -a
[08:30] <rollerskatejamms> Anybody know where SoundKonverter saves ripped songs?
[08:31] <BluesKaj> thx nicolai_ , i keep those cmnds in a txt file for reference but forgot to save it on the other pc before my latest clean install
[08:31] <DJServers> where do i put my site files in apache??
[08:31] <nicolai_> BluesKaj: I usually send myself an email ;)
[08:31] <nicolai_> BluesKaj: I trust Gmail more than my computer :P
[08:31] <rommel> Hello, Im a newbie, and I am trying to open a ubunto share in windows, I already changed my samba password and when I try to login i enter the samba user name and password and tells me that multiple connections to a server o share resourse by the same user
[08:31] <timmay> ugh it's still not work
[08:31] <timmay> ing
[08:32] <timmay> PF-Away: still not working :/
[08:32] <root___> exit
[08:32] <timmay> PF-Away: and there was no icon on the lower right
[08:32] <nicolai_> rollerskaterjamms: I have never tried the program, but have you checked after hidden folders in your home directory?
[08:32] <thingy> rommel, that means youve already got a connection to that resource using different credentials...either use something like net use /d or log out and back in again to access using the credentials you want to use
[08:32] <PF-Away> timmay: do "sudo aptitude upgrade"
[08:32] <PF-Away> then
[08:33] <rommel> OK
[08:33] <rommel> let me try
[08:33] <nicolai_> rollerskatejamms: I have never tried the program, but have you checked after hidden folders in your home directory?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> nicolai_, darn good idea :)
[08:33] <DJServers> Hello!!?? Some One Nows Where to put my site script in apache???
[08:33] <rommel> is there a way that I can see in UBUNTU the connections in it?
[08:34] <rollerskatejamms> nicolai_, looking
[08:34] <rollerskatejamms> but thats a silly place to save mp3s
[08:34] <thingy> rommel, man smbstatus
[08:34] <timmay> PF-Away: ok that's done
[08:34] <nicolai_> rollerskatejamms: That is where Amarok saves podcasts if you haven't told it something else
[08:34] <DJServers> HEY!!??? some one nows or not!! ???
[08:35] <rollerskatejamms> nicolai_, Yeah well they arent in .kde anywhere
[08:35] <rommel> ok
[08:35] <DJServers> HEEY! ?>??
[08:36] <nicolai_> rollerskatejamms: KAudioCreator might be a good alternative then :)
[08:36] <rollerskatejamms> nicolai_, I already did the rip
[08:37] <nicolai_> rollerskatejamms: Have you tried searching for the name of one of the songs?
[08:37] <rollerskatejamms> nicolai_, doing that now
[08:38] <eljefe> does anyone notice that sound is a lot more quiet in 7.04 than in previous releases or other distributions?  I have even swapped out my soundcard but everything is more quiet...
[08:38] <rollerskatejamms> just did find / -name 'three weeks'
[08:38] <rollerskatejamms> did nothing
[08:38] <BluesKaj> !grub
[08:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:40] <nicolai_> eljefe: It might be because PCM setting is at a lower level, but yeah, I noticed too.
[08:40] <nicolai_> eljefe: I also find it sounds better at the same level though :s
[08:42] <rommel> thingy-> Thanks that solved the issue. how many connections can I have in a ubuntu share?
[08:43] <thingy> rommel, as many as you want....depending on avail mem/disk/network bandwidth etc
[08:44] <rommel> thingy->Niceeeeeeeeee
[08:44] <masterk> !firefox
[08:44] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:44] <rommel> 512Kb Ram,70GB is that ok for more than 15 people?
[08:45] <rommel> for ubuntu desktop
[08:45] <masterk> kb? don't you mean mb?
[08:45] <rommel> sorry
[08:45] <rommel> mb
[08:45] <me882> hello
[08:45] <masterk> I was about to say....
[08:45] <rommel> hahahahaha
[08:45] <rommel> that was a computer from the 80's
[08:45] <nicolai_> rollerskatejamms: It seems to need the exact name in my case :@. Try searching for it in "metainfo" in the second tab.
[08:46] <ReMiiRuru> BluesKaj: I have announcement and a question for you. Announcement: The method on the site didn't work. Question: Why do linux people seem to always assume installing the drivers with one step slightly different than other methods will solve my problem?
[08:46] <me882> i installed nvidia-glx-new now i cant start kubuntu any more i have a geforce go 6600
[08:46] <masterk> i remember my old 4mb computer... it was an ibm
[08:46] <masterk> but that was the lowest amount of ram I've ever had
[08:47] <rommel> i had an apple 64 then my ast windows x386 machine had 640kb ram
[08:47] <rommel> running dos 2.1
[08:48] <rommel> I installing ubuntu last night and so far I like it.... it reminds me my old days of unix
[08:48] <rommel> but i like it
[08:49] <Zeelot> hello, does anyone here know how to get the time in the video I am at in kaffeine using dcop? like 3:27 in a 10:00 video?
[08:50] <BluesKaj> ReMiiRuru, well, we're not all aware that the methods you tried previously were only slightly different than the one suggested. Only thing to do is keep searching ... sometimes one finds oneself in a 'unique' situation and it's difficult for anyone to find a solution to it
[08:50] <Zeelot> there is a getTimePos() but all it returns is int like 4
[08:51] <timmay> PF-Away: thanks for your help...i gotta get going
[08:51] <ReMiiRuru> BluesKaj:  So I'll go about updating my paste to note that for people ._. I tried so many installing methods it's making me feel sick...
[08:52] <macke> Anyone who has goten SketchUp working under wine?
[08:53] <buz> ReMiiRuru: where does that paste note live
[08:53] <ReMiiRuru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21594/ now here
[08:54] <BluesKaj> ReMiiRuru, I felt the same way after updating from a perfectly good setup on edgy ... almost there except for my tv capture cards probs and it doesn't look promising that i'll solve it or find a fix
[08:54] <buz> gf5200 works in myl laptop (wish i could say the same about the new x1400 in the new laptop), so sorry, i cant help
[08:55] <nicolai_> ReMiiRuru: are you trying to fix a broken system or start anew?
[08:56] <ReMiiRuru> nicolai_: up until 2 days ago I was trying to fix broken system, but I have reinstalled it recently
[08:56] <Zeelot> no one? =(
[08:58] <nicolai_> ReMiiRuru: My own method of installing my 6600 is first to install nvidia-glx and then go to "system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> config -> proprietary"
[08:59] <nicolai_> I generally find KDE knows best :)
[08:59] <nicolai_> gotta go
[09:00] <dom> Anyone can help me, I installed Kubuntu and would like to know how can I see the version of this distribution.
[09:00] <K-Ryan> !version | dom
[09:00] <ubotu> dom: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[09:02] <dom> Thanks Ubotu
[09:02] <K-Ryan> Ubotu is a bot =P
[09:02] <K-Ryan> !ubotu
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot =p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:04] <stanley_> hi guys
[09:04] <stanley_> how do i hide files stored in folders?
[09:04] <stanley_> music files. video files, documents
[09:04] <chi0> hello all
[09:04] <stanley_> is there a way to hide them??
[09:04] <K-Ryan> Hi stanley and chi0
[09:05] <Lynoure> stanley_: hide from who?
[09:05] <K-Ryan> I was thinking, hide what? No matter...
[09:05] <stanley_> well i just don;t want them to appear when file browsing
[09:05] <K-Ryan> I know there's an app that will spread one file into other files leaving it completely hidden to other people.
[09:05] <rommel> I just created a folder using sudo mkdir foldername command, now I would like to take ownership of this folder
[09:05] <rommel> ?
[09:06] <chi0> sorry but off tipic does any 1 know were i can get the kde4 icon set, you know the oxygen 1s ?
[09:06] <RytmenPinnen> how do I restart the part that controls sound in linux? I just lost it for some reason
[09:06] <tsdgeos> rommel: sudo chown yourUsername:yourGroup
[09:06] <tsdgeos> rommel: sudo chown yourUsername:yourGroup theDirectory
[09:08] <Lynoure> stanley_: you can search on the location bar, too.. I'd advice against hiding all except ultraimportant stuff and recommend rather separating that ultraimportant stuff into it's own directory tree
[09:08] <stanley_> yea i have done that
[09:09] <stanley_> putting the ultra important stuff in it's own folder
[09:10] <K-Ryan> !wine
[09:10] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:10] <Lynoure> stanley_: at least adding a . to the beginning of a name hides it, but there might be some GUI way too
[09:10] <stanley_> thas what i'm thinkin
[09:10] <stanley_> thanx alot anyway
[09:12] <SJrX> How can I enable the SSH server on Kubuntu?
[09:13] <unnutz> !info openssh-server | SJrX
[09:13] <ubotu> sjrx: openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB
[09:13] <SlimeyPete> SJrX: use adept or apt-get to install openssh-server
[09:13] <K-Ryan> Okay I'm completely new to Wine and just reading a how to isn't working for me.
[09:13] <K-Ryan> This tahoma.ttf font, it says put it in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[09:13] <SJrX> aren't I suppose to be doing this thru the GUI or something
[09:13] <Ace2016> Hi all
[09:13] <K-Ryan> Where would that be? I'm running Kubuntu and installed from the repositories so it is in the default location,.
[09:14] <Ace2016> is it possible to stop a kernel half way and continue later
[09:14] <Ace2016> like put it on hold so it doesn't use system resources and watch a video and let it continue?
[09:15] <Ace2016> well i want to watch this episode i just got and it has an awesome cliff hanger and i need to see what happens now!
[09:15] <K-Ryan> Oh damn, I said all that in the wrong channel.
[09:15] <adaptr> Ace2016 if you stop the kernel you killed your session, and any other sessions running
[09:15] <K-Ryan> If anyone here can help though, don't hold back =)
[09:16] <Ace2016> adaptr: stop the compiling and continue from where it left off, not stop the running kernel, i'm compiling a new one
[09:16] <Ace2016> how do i give ultra high priority to mplayer?
[09:16] <adaptr> Ace2016 and I should have guessed this how ?
[09:16] <adaptr> Ace2016 just stop it, of course: ctrl-Z
[09:17] <adaptr> Ace2016 and "fg" to continue
[09:17] <just-this-time> how do I get on kubuntu K menuu ->help help on kde apps
[09:17] <adaptr> Ace2016 but it's generally a lot smarter to just nice it
[09:17] <just-this-time> now default gives unix manual only
[09:17] <adaptr> just-this-time you need to install the help, probably
[09:17] <Ace2016> adaptr: thanks thats sooooo cool
[09:17] <dom> Hi, I m looking a way to minimize all the GUI application that are open in my desktop and this in one step (e.g push on a button) can someone help me
[09:17] <adaptr> Ace2016 really, learn to use nice
[09:18] <adaptr> nice 10 make bzimage will make it run at a very low priority
[09:18] <buz> yeah well he'd likely need to nice the running pid
[09:18] <Ace2016> adaptr: i used to use kdesu ksysguard to do it but i ended up making everything unstable
[09:19] <Ace2016> adaptr: i'll remember that
[09:19] <adaptr> Ace2016 don't us ethe crappy GUI stuff to do real tasks :)
[09:20] <mrwizrd> i just want to say i love linux
[09:20] <mrwizrd> really really :D
[09:20] <Ace2016> adaptr: gui stuff make me aware of the features, then if i need to know more i try to find stuff out ;)
[09:20] <adaptr> Ace2016 I have no idea what you mean by that
[09:21] <mrwizrd> after i got the ms fonts from my xp install and set em up right, i was in heaven
[09:21] <mrwizrd> (god knows those fonts are... just no, okay?)
[09:21] <Ace2016> adaptr: i never knew what niceness was before i saw it in ksysguard, so i guess gui stuff makes people know that you can do something in linux
[09:21] <adaptr> Ace2016 reading a good introduction to POSIX OSes and *nix in particualr does that, too :)
[09:22] <adaptr> there are many good guides, alas not too many good ones about basic job control and shell programming
[09:22] <Ace2016> so much to read so little time
[09:22] <adaptr> you need the skillz, you do the time
[09:25] <mrwizrd> can anyone offer me some help on getting rid of windows?
[09:26] <mrwizrd> (without killing kubuntu/my partitions)
[09:26] <adaptr> mrwizrd mke2fs /dev/whatever - there, all gone
[09:27] <mrwizrd> adaptr: I have ubuntu installed in the mbr
[09:27] <mrwizrd> and grub gives me the option to load ubuntu/ubuntu (generic)/memtest/winxp
[09:28] <adaptr> yes, so ?
[09:29] <buscojuegos> ola
[09:29] <buscojuegos> alguien me puede ayudar?
[09:30] <buscojuegos> [GuS] :
[09:30] <buscojuegos> _dennis_:
[09:30] <buscojuegos> _hansen_:
[09:30] <adaptr> !es | buscojuegos
[09:30] <buscojuegos> _max_:
[09:30] <ubotu> buscojuegos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:30] <buscojuegos> sorry
[09:30] <mrwizrd> i have (xpsystem) (ubunturoot) (ubuntuswap) (ubuntuhome) (swap) (files)
[09:30] <K-Ryan> Thanks adaptr, I was just doing that =P
[09:30] <adaptr> buscojuegos please quit that shit NOW
[09:30] <buscojuegos> goodbye
[09:30] <adaptr> indeed
[09:30] <mrwizrd> is the mbr seperate from any one partition?
[09:30] <adaptr> yes
[09:31] <mrwizrd> okay... that's all i was unsure about..
[09:31] <adaptr> maybe try a quick stop at wikipedia next time ?
[09:31] <mrwizrd> *nods*
[09:31] <mrwizrd> apologies
[09:31] <LeeJunFan> mrwizrd: yes the mbr is in it's own space, then right after that are the tables which hold your partition, then after that the actual partitions.
[09:31] <adaptr> just typing in "mbr" gets you more info than even I find useful
[09:32] <buscojuegos> hello?
[09:32] <buscojuegos> can you help me?
[09:32] <mrwizrd> I just wanted to be sure... I don't want to lose this data
[09:32] <buscojuegos> i want write and read a NTFS partition
[09:32] <buscojuegos> how can i do taht?
[09:32] <mrwizrd> though i've finally decided i can dump windows and multibooting and go full on linux
[09:33] <LeeJunFan> !ntfs | buscojuegos
[09:33] <ubotu> buscojuegos: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:33] <mrwizrd> buscojuegos:sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[09:33] <adaptr> mrwizrd why delete it at all, then ? wait until you find you don't even think about those dark days anymore, and then one day wake up and htink: NOW I'm gonna get my disk space back!
[09:33] <adaptr> it'll be like a little birthday
[09:34] <mrwizrd> haha
[09:34] <mrwizrd> adaptr: what kind of level are you? I've seen your nick in a lot of places..
[09:34] <ulrich__> hey, is there any kind of system reset like windows has? ^
[09:34] <buscojuegos> mrwizard thanks, but when i try to install that, my pc say me, "Other process is working whit this directory"
[09:34] <buscojuegos> can you understand me?
[09:34] <buscojuegos> i spanish, i can speak english very well
[09:34] <buscojuegos> :S
[09:35] <adaptr> mrwizrd what kind of... level ? what kind of.. question is that ?
[09:35] <mrwizrd> adaptr: sorry i sound like an MMORPG
[09:35] <adaptr> buscojuegos yes, we all witnessed that... too bad we can't say the same for your powers of observation
[09:35] <ulrich__> hello ?
[09:35] <nicolai_> adaptr: I think he means noob - beginner - intermediate - power user etc
[09:35] <mrwizrd> buscojuegos: is synaptic or system update running?
[09:35] <adaptr> buscojuegos get out of synaptic and/or adept, only one package tool can run at once
[09:36] <mrwizrd> ^^ what he said
[09:36] <buscojuegos> mrwizrd i dont think so, but i dont sure
[09:36] <buscojuegos> how can i finish taht process?
[09:36] <adaptr> nicolai_ yes, I _understand_ what the newbie meant, but that doesn't mean he should get away with asking it
[09:36] <LeeJunFan> !adeptfix-crash
[09:36] <K-Ryan> ulrich__ I don't think I've seen one but there probably is if you need one, why do you need it?
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptfix-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <nicolai_> adaptr: :p
[09:37] <mrwizrd> adaptr is right nicolai.. I need to learn to ask questions properly
[09:37] <adaptr> buscojuegos if you're sure, remove the lock file
[09:37] <mrwizrd> i do a decent job, most of the time :P
[09:37] <buscojuegos> adaptr how can i do that?
[09:37] <K-Ryan> !aptfix | LeeJunFan
[09:37] <ulrich__> K-Ryan: i tried to install a package with the adept installer thingy and entered at the wrong place and now i cant access the adept anymore and some other stuff like "apt-get update wont work either
[09:37] <nicolai_> mrwizrd: In the context, I would have seen it as a compliment.
[09:37] <ubotu> LeeJunFan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:38] <K-Ryan> ulrich try that command that ubotu just said.
[09:38] <LeeJunFan> K-Ryan: yeah, thanks :) was for buscojuegos :)
[09:38] <ulrich__> i tried it
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Ah, no problem ;)
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Nothing ulrich__?
[09:38] <ulrich__> what is fuser?
[09:38] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure to be honest, just part of the command to me.
[09:39] <LeeJunFan> K-Ryan: there's like 30 freakin' factoids for that issue and I can never remember one of them.
[09:39] <buscojuegos> please help me :(
[09:39] <ulrich__> does any text has to appear when i enter this ?
[09:39] <nicolai_> if it doesnt't work then sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock would do instead
[09:39] <adaptr> buscojuegos rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:39] <K-Ryan> no ulrich__, nothing else will pop up.
[09:39] <ulrich__> okay
[09:39] <K-Ryan> But try running adept after it
[09:40] <ulrich__> i did
[09:40] <ulrich__> same nothin changed
[09:40] <mrwizrd> is it possible to run MSN Live Messenger on GNU/Linux using Mono? (LM needs the .NET Framework)
[09:40] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:40] <K-Ryan> What was the last thing you typed in before it stopped working?
[09:40] <nicolai_> mrwizrd: It would probably be easier using wine
[09:41] <buscojuegos> adaptr:  thanks :)
[09:42] <ulrich__> errr okay ill tell you: at first i only wanted to get skype working because nobody was able to hear me.. a guy from the german kbuntu channel (which wasnt very helpfuly.y) told me to download a package from this site "http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/" what i did i mean i copied the text and entered into the adept but i guess i entered it at the wrong place...
[09:43] <buscojuegos> adaptr:  i cant install nothing :(
[09:43] <buscojuegos> the same error
[09:43] <buscojuegos> in spanish is
[09:43] <buscojuegos> Otro proceso est utilizando la base de datos del sistema de paquetes (probablemente otra aplicacin Adept o apt-get o aptitude). Por favor cierre la otra aplicacin antes de utilizar esta.
[09:43] <K-Ryan> You tried to add a repository?
[09:43] <buscojuegos> in english....
[09:44] <K-Ryan> The process is being used by a different program.
[09:44] <buscojuegos> other process is working whit the database. Please, close the other aplication bbefore try to use this
[09:44] <buscojuegos> K-Ryan:  What process?
[09:44] <dwidmann> mrwizrd: seeing as it would require compiling it, and the source isn't available, no.
[09:44] <buscojuegos> i cant see it
[09:44] <polopolo> hello, does someone know a program for kubuntu that rip you're dvd recordings?
[09:44] <K-Ryan> I don't know, it doesn't say.
[09:45] <dwidmann> polopolo: dvdrip
[09:45] <polopolo> dvdrip, ok, thank you
[09:45] <buz> k9copy
[09:45] <K-Ryan> The people on the Wine channel aren't answering me so I'll ask just real quick. Does anyone know if Steam needs more than tahoma.ttf because the text isn't showing up...
[09:45] <nicolai_> buscojuegos: open ksysguard and search for both adept and synaptic
[09:46] <polopolo> k9copy
[09:46] <polopolo> ok
[09:46] <nicolai_> ulrich__: what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[09:47] <polopolo> Also a question, can that program also rip in divx?
[09:47] <felix_> where can i find GLIB ??
[09:47] <polopolo> dvdrip and k9copy?
[09:47] <ulrich__> nicolai: the newest..
[09:48] <dwidmann> polopolo: dvdrip ... erm, I think it does xvid or mp4, possibly theora, don't think it does divx
[09:48] <slougi> felix_: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0
[09:48] <felix_> thanks
[09:48] <slougi> felix_: or libglib1.2, depending which version you want
[09:49] <mrwizrd> nicolai: has it been made to work in the past?
[09:49] <polopolo> ok, and how to edit a video? (so I does not need do see the tv-ads when I see the rpogram again ;))
[09:50] <nicolai_> mrwizrd: you have to type nicolai_ if you want to be sure I notice what you write
[09:50] <dwidmann> polopolo: dunno, I've never edited any before. I think a program oh, what was its name ...
[09:51] <dwidmann> cinelerra was one
[09:51] <nicolai_> mrwizrd: I have no idea about live. I use Kopete. :)
[09:51] <dwidmann> kino is another
[09:51] <dwidmann> and I still can't think of the other one that I liked the looks of
[09:51] <zorglu_> dwidmann: do you actually use them ?
[09:52] <dwidmann> nope, I just know that quite a many other people do
[09:52] <mrwizrd> the only reason i *really* want the live client is for plus's logging features..
[09:52] <dwidmann> and I make it my business to know things, zorglu_
[09:52] <mrwizrd> i have over a years worth of logs and i'd like to keep the formats consistent
[09:52] <polopolo> I gonna try, thank you all for you're help
[09:52] <zorglu_> dwidmann: because i tried hard to find a way to edit movie on linux and fails to find any working software
[09:52] <nicolai_> ulrich__: I think I've found what you need
[09:53] <zorglu_> dwidmann: many halfbacked ones do exist. but none was actually working
[09:53] <dwidmann> zorglu: I'm still trying to think of that other one, I know it wasn't done yet, but it was looking like it showed quite a lot of potential
[09:53] <nicolai_> ulrich__: try command:    sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:53] <buz> kdenlive
[09:53] <T> Hey all
[09:53] <dwidmann> buz: there we go, thanks, cat had my tongue
[09:54] <tsdgeos> zorglu_: kino?
[09:54] <zorglu_> dwidmann: im guessing you think about pitivy ?
[09:54] <buz> not quite finished but showing great potential fits perfectly for that one
[09:54] <dwidmann> tsdgeos: already mentioned
[09:54] <tsdgeos> ok :D
[09:54] <aroo> Anyone know where default KDE themes/styles are located?
[09:57] <ionus> any soft for siemens tel
[09:57] <aroo> ?
[09:57] <ionus> to read filesistem
[09:57] <ionus> in kubuntu
[09:57] <ionus> please help me
[09:57] <ionus> !!
[09:57] <aroo> Um what?
[09:57] <ionus> !siemens
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about siemens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <ionus> listen i have siemens sk65 and i want to put in one photo
[09:59] <nicolai_> aroo: http://www.kde-look.org/
[09:59] <aroo> nicolai_: I'm well aware of that site
[09:59] <aroo> nicolai_: my question was regarding the filesystem placement
[09:59] <ionus> someone please help me
[09:59] <dkkong> Is there a way to get my Lexmark All in one at least printing in Kubuntu?
[10:00] <nicolai_> aroo: ahh. perhaps in /home/aroo/.kde ? :P
[10:00] <nicolai_> aroo: just a guess
[10:01] <aroo> nicolai_: already checked that
[10:01] <ionus> oi blea
[10:01] <ionus> este cineva
[10:01] <ionus> !!!
[10:01] <ionus> help me please
[10:02] <aroo> ionus maybe no one knows
[10:03] <ionus> ok
[10:03] <ionus> but with tv tuners
[10:03] <ionus> any soft for avermedia 007
[10:03] <ionus> aroo?
[10:03] <Aeos> I burned the iso to a dvd and when I ran it off the disc and all it did was spew errors
[10:03] <UKESN|Javax> http://www.ukesn.org/index.php?q=story_comments&id=257
[10:03] <ionus> yooui now?
[10:03] <ionus> !avermedia
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avermedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <aroo> ionus, I have no idea
[10:04] <aroo> nicolai_, found it, /usr/share/apps/kthememanager/themes
[10:04] <Aeos> it got passed the initial loading screen, I chose both normal and graphic safe mode and it loaded some drivers, complained about others, then simply halted
[10:06] <nicolai_> ionus: an Adept search for siemens gave scmmx as a possible candidate
[10:07] <nicolai_> ionus: "scmmx: Exchange data with Siemens mobil phones"
[10:08] <Aeos> if the live disc doesnt work it is safe to assume an install wont be as painless as claimed?
[10:08] <nicolai_> ionus: "See the website http://www.hendrik-sattler.de/scmxx for details"
[10:08] <dkkong> Guess it's back to windows because of lack of printer :/
[10:08] <ionus> merci
[10:08] <ionus> mersi
[10:08] <aroo> dkkong, you've been in here about 8 minutes and you gave up already?
[10:09] <ulrich__> nicolai: okay and then ? paste it ?
[10:09] <nicolai_> ulrich__: my plan was foiled somewhat by the medibuntu server being down :/
[10:09] <nicolai_> ulrich__: bad timing :/
[10:10] <dkkong> No.. that would be after I've been hammering with the Lexmark Printer Driver on their site that's not compatible with my printer, the Kooka not being able to even see my printer as a scanner, and failing after trying to get the Printers wizard to see it on the usb drive
[10:10] <nicolai_> ulrich__: ahh. It's up now :D
[10:11] <ionus> nicolai u are rusian?
[10:11] <Ayabara> anyone know of a media library application for kubuntu? one that can scan my music, video and image folders, give me search capabilities and let me launch stuff in my favorite players?
[10:12] <dkkong> Oh.. and it failing after trying to install it under a VMware session
[10:12] <Aeos> should I not use Fiesty Fawn and try the more stable version
[10:12] <ionus> u now rusian or romanian
[10:12] <gemidjy> any idea on how can I grep for Binary characters, such as <feff> ?
[10:13] <nicolai_> ulrich__: try   sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[10:14] <ulrich__> okay
[10:14] <ulrich__> empty document
[10:14] <nicolai_> ulrich__: it should contain four lines. two commented (starting with ##) and two starting with deb
[10:14] <ulrich__> no nothing
[10:15] <nicolai_> hmm
[10:15] <nicolai_> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[10:15] <nicolai_> deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[10:15] <ulrich__> means? ^
[10:15] <nicolai_> add those two lines
[10:15] <nicolai_> and then save
[10:16] <ulrich__> enter it in the terminal ?
[10:16] <nicolai_> in kate
[10:16] <usuario> hey
[10:16] <nicolai_> they are repositories
[10:16] <nicolai_> This is where you get packages from
[10:17] <Aeos> anyone know if the failure to be able to run the live disc is because My laptop drivers arent available? is it because I chose Fiesty Fawn? I was under the impression that the Live Disc simply would run... I have a 64bit processor.... should I try the 32 binary?
[10:17] <ulrich__> only enter this in medubuntu.list?
[10:18] <nicolai_> ulrich__: wait. I got a better idea
[10:18] <zorglu_> Aeos: 32bit worth trying in your case
[10:19] <zorglu_> in my opinion
[10:19] <nicolai_> ulrich__: exit kate without saving
[10:19] <Blissex> Aeos: some systems may have odd peripherals, not everything is supported. The drivers should be the same in the 32bit and 64 bit versions.
[10:19] <ulrich__> too late ^
[10:19] <Blissex> Aeos: but some work less well in 64 bit mode. Depends on what is failing.
[10:19] <nicolai_> hehe
[10:19] <Ayabara> is there a way to make mplayer display the movie title in the title bar?
[10:19] <K-Ryan> What's the wine package called?
[10:19] <nicolai_> then retype the "sudo kate..." code and delete it
[10:20] <ulrich__> i did
[10:20] <Aeos> this might seems stupid but is the ISO compatible with DVD? or should it be burned to a CD
[10:20] <nicolai_> ulrich__: ok. in konsole type wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[10:21] <zorglu_> Ayabara: for the indexing, look at apps like 'strigi'
[10:21] <ulrich__> okay and then ?
[10:21] <Ayabara> zorglu_: thanks for the tip
[10:21] <nicolai_> ulrich__: it should say "OK"
[10:21] <Aeos> i will try the non-fiesty fawn  32 bit kubuntu
[10:21] <amorphous_> I'm trying to use ssh to access 2 different accounts on the same machine. 1 of these accounts i want to log into (using passphrase (rsa)) - the other account I want to use scripts & so no passphrase, but only use scp (no login) for security. Is this possible?
[10:21] <ulrich__> well after the sudo apt-key add - it says nothin
[10:22] <BluesKaj> what plugin am I missing ...suddenly kaffeine no longer plays .avi files properly ...the video is stretched diagonaly like a scramler does ...any suggestions ?
[10:22] <nicolai_> ulrich__: wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[10:22] <zorglu_> Ayabara: for the title in title bar, do you actually need mplayer, or kmplayer would do ?
[10:22] <BluesKaj> err scrambler
[10:22] <ulrich__> all at the same time ?
[10:22] <nicolai_> ulrich__: yep
[10:22] <Ayabara> zorglu_: hm. don't know the difference at the moment :-)
[10:23] <ulrich__> OK ^
[10:23] <zorglu_> Ayabara: kmplayer is a kde front end to mplayer, less raw than mplayer.
[10:23] <nicolai_> ulrich__: then type this
[10:23] <Aeos> err nm
[10:23] <nicolai_> sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[10:23] <Aeos> thanks for your help
[10:23] <zorglu_> Ayabara: on the same vibe, there is kaffeine too. which is a front end for 'xine' another movie player
[10:23] <ulrich__> oaky
[10:23] <ulrich__> okay*
[10:24] <just-this-time> hi
[10:24] <just-this-time> \o
[10:24] <just-this-time> pls attn
[10:24] <amorphous_> anyone..?
[10:24] <just-this-time> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php mentions KHelpCenter
[10:24] <nicolai_> ulrich__: now, you had problems with adept?
[10:24] <ulrich__> let me check...
[10:25] <just-this-time> anyone used KHelpCenter ?
[10:25] <ulrich__> still doesnt work...
[10:25] <BluesKaj> !avi
[10:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:25] <K-Ryan> !aptfix
[10:25] <just-this-time> New in 7.04 is the use of a topic based help system.
[10:25] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:26] <nicolai_> ulrich__: Yeah. I just needed to check. :)
[10:26] <ulrich__> okay=)
[10:26] <just-this-time> BluesKaj:  ?have an idea ?^^^
[10:26] <nicolai_> ulrich__: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:26] <BluesKaj> ok just-this-time ...what is it ?
[10:26] <Ayabara> hm. kmplayer sounds worth trying out
[10:26] <ulrich__> k
[10:26] <nicolai_> ulrich__: dpkg --configure -a
[10:26] <just-this-time> ^^^
[10:26] <just-this-time> New in 7.04 is the use of a topic based help system.
[10:26] <just-this-time> anyone used KHelpCenter ?
[10:27] <ulrich__> ok
[10:27] <just-this-time> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php mentions KHelpCenter
[10:27] <nicolai_> ulrich__: does it respond?
[10:27] <ulrich__> nope still broken...
[10:28] <nicolai_> ulrich__: hmm...
[10:28] <ulrich__> mhm i guess the best would be total reinstall mhm ? ^
[10:28] <nicolai_> ulrich__: hehe
[10:28] <nicolai_> ulrich__: 2 sec
[10:28] <ulrich__> no im serious ^^
[10:29] <nicolai_> ulrich__: yeah, but I want to try a few more things first :)
[10:29] <Ayabara> does kmplayer use my .mplayer/config file?
[10:30] <ulrich__> okay :D
[10:30] <nicolai_> ulrich__: open Ksysguard and search for adept and synaptic
[10:30] <ulrich__> nicolai_: why do you know that much about kubuntu ? i mean how long do u use it ? ^
[10:31] <BluesKaj> VLC player plays the avi files np, but why doesn't kaffeine ?
[10:31] <nicolai_> ulrich__: 11 months :p
[10:31] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: kaffeine uses the xine backend which may not have its codecs installed
[10:31] <ulrich__> cool =)
[10:31] <shaggyoaf> hi, everybody. I recall seeing "performance profiles" in my kde laptop battery monitor's right-click menu a while back
[10:31] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: i've found that mplayer is the best for playing videos
[10:31] <ulrich__> okay theres one "adept_notifier" and no synaptic
[10:32] <shaggyoaf> but I've just updated to feisty kubuntu and they're gone now
[10:32] <shaggyoaf> anybody know how I get them back?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> Ace2016,mplayer reacts the same way
[10:32] <just-this-time> VLC is best self equipped player
[10:32] <just-this-time> own codecs
[10:32] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: do you have w32codecs installed? might need them
[10:32] <nicolai_> ulrich__: no other version of adept? strange...
[10:32] <just-this-time> !xine
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <nicolai_> ulrich__: back to konsole. Type    sudo apt-get update
[10:33] <just-this-time> !codecs
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <BluesKaj> yup, got everything under the sun that i can think of installed w32, libdvdcss2, uname-it :)
[10:33] <ulrich__> E: Type 'packages-free-i386.db' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:33] <nicolai_> ulrich__: see if any errors arrive
[10:33] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: what avi is this?
[10:33] <K-Ryan> Nobody is helping me in the Wine channel, does anyone know why if I'm running Steam, have fontforge installed, and have the tahoma.ttf font in the right folder, would Steam pop up without text?
[10:34] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: possible to give a link?
[10:34] <K-Ryan> Any ideas anyone?
[10:34] <Ace2016> K-Ryan: have you tried different wine versions? could be wine and not the config
[10:34] <BluesKaj> all of the avi files i have , reat the same way ...anything that uses the xine-engine
[10:34] <K-Ryan> I had 9.33
[10:34] <K-Ryan> Then updated to 9.37
[10:34] <BluesKaj> react
[10:34] <K-Ryan> Same textless box pops up.
[10:34] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: mplayer doesn't use xine
[10:34] <nicolai_> ulrich__: is that the error? perfect! just type  sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:35] <BluesKaj> mplayer wi=on't play them either
[10:35] <Ayabara> anyone know if it is possible to set the numeric EQ values for kaffeine in some config file?
[10:35] <K-Ryan> I even tried setting it up so that it used Times New Roman, but that didn't fix it.
[10:35] <BluesKaj> e=wont
[10:35] <ulrich__> okay
[10:35] <ulrich__> im there
[10:35] <ulrich__> mhm ^
[10:35] <ulrich__> delete the package bla
[10:35] <nicolai_> ulrich__: in kate find line 44 - packages-free-i386.db
[10:35] <nicolai_> ulrich__: yeah
[10:36] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: can you run mplayer and xine from konsole and put the output in a pastebin
[10:36] <Ace2016> get them to play and post the output
[10:36] <nicolai_> ulrich__: anything that doesn't start deb or ##
[10:36] <nicolai_> ulrich__: though it might be good to save the original if you are not certain it is malplaced
[10:37] <ulrich__> oh i love you :D:D:D:D it works again ^^
[10:37] <BluesKaj> mplayer is broken anyway
[10:37] <nicolai_> hehe
[10:37] <mrwizrd> is there any way to unmount a partition mounted by ntfs-3g?
[10:37] <ulrich__> great thanks :D
[10:37] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: why?
[10:37] <nicolai_> ulrich__: everything works?
[10:37] <ulrich__> yes i think so
[10:37] <mrwizrd> they're not in mtab, so normal unmount doesnt work
[10:38] <mrwizrd> i want to blow away a partition but dont want to restart, load a livecd..
[10:38] <ulrich__> nicolai_: and the medibuntu stuff is what ?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> dunno why , just errors everytime i try to use mplayer, Ace2016
[10:39] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: well you could pastebin it
[10:39] <nicolai_> ulrich__: medibuntu is a repository (software archive) that contains codecs and other software that might be "illegal" to install in the USA :P
[10:39] <ulrich__> ah cool :P well im from germany haha
[10:39] <ulrich__> okay but skype is not in it is it ?
[10:40] <BluesKaj> Ace2016, http://www.pastebin.ca/497391
[10:40] <K-Ryan> Hey guys someone told me to do this,  install it to X11 fonts dir and restart/refresh the X11 to enable it.
[10:40] <K-Ryan> How do I do that?
[10:40] <nicolai_> ulrich__: such things as the possibility to read dvd movies (libdvdcss2) watch .avi files (w32codecs) and listen to .mp3 (libxine-extracodecs)
[10:41] <ulrich__> ah okay
[10:41] <nicolai_> ulrich__: I'm from Denmark myself :)
[10:41] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: you didn't tell it what file to play, cd to the place where your .avi file is and do gmplayer file.avi
[10:41] <K-Ryan> Anyone? Where is that X11 font dir?
[10:42] <BluesKaj> ok Ace2016
[10:42] <mrwizrd> brb
[10:42] <K-Ryan> X11 font dir? Please? =)
[10:43] <ulrich__> nicolai-: denmark cool i love denmark =)
[10:43] <Ace2016>  /etc/X11/fonts ?
[10:43] <felix_> I've installed XMMS and i don't know how to start it !!!????
[10:43] <K-Ryan> Probably, thanks a bunch
[10:43] <ulrich__> okay and how do i get skype running ? the version from the skype homepage didnt work..
[10:43] <nicolai_> ulrich__: 2 sec
[10:44] <Ayabara> I tried kaffeine now. The sound of my video is crappy unless I choose "Volume Gain" in the EQ settings, and then it's really low. What am I doing wrong?
[10:44] <Ace2016> Any of these? /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts  /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[10:45] <nicolai_> ulrich__: I found skype in Adept. You shouldn't need to look at any website
[10:45] <nicolai_> ulrich__: It was apparently a part of the medibuntu repository :)
[10:46] <nicolai_> ulrich__: simply update adept and search for skype
[10:47] <pagux2you> hello
[10:47] <flavios_> how I install Portuguese in kubuntu?
[10:47] <K-Ryan> Someone told me to put this tahoma.ttf font file in my X11 Fonts folder
[10:47] <pagux2you> my updator crashed while appling changes
[10:47] <K-Ryan> Now in there I've got a few folders so I don't know where to put it.
[10:48] <pagux2you> i was upgrading fro 6.10 to 7.10
[10:48] <K-Ryan> 100dpi, 75dpi, misc, Type1, X11R7
[10:48] <Ace2016> pagux2you: and the problem is?
[10:49] <pagux2you> my updator crashed while appling changes while upgrading from 6.10 to 7.10 ....pl tell me how to start process again
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Ace2016, cd -ing to the file in the terminal doesn't work ...it doesn't see the file
[10:49] <K-Ryan> Anyone know where I'm supposed to put it?
[10:49] <ulrich__> nicolai_: ah i see thanks ;D
[10:50] <pagux2you> my updator crashed while appling changes while upgrading from 6.10 to 7.10 ....pl tell me how to start process again
[10:50] <K-Ryan> pagux2you that happened to me and someone told me to just restart Kubuntu
[10:50] <nicolai_> ulrich__: See! You didn't have to reinstall :P
[10:50] <K-Ryan> And it was 7.10
[10:50] <ulrich__> nicolai_: *phew* ^^
[10:51] <pagux2you> K-Ryan: But udater didnt apply all the packages
[10:51] <nicolai_> pagux2you: If the problem persists try  /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:51] <nicolai_> pagux2you: then    dpkg --configure -a
[10:51] <pagux2you> i fear that my kubuntu wont boot
[10:51] <K-Ryan> Mine crashed midway through and someone told me to do that, it worked for me.
[10:51] <K-Ryan> pagux2you so did I but it worked for me. Don't go just on my word though, ask around a bit more.
[10:52] <nicolai_> K-Ryan and pagux2you: It can be a dangerous attempt
[10:52] <K-Ryan> Can always boot up using one of the other kernel versions right?
[10:52] <K-Ryan> Worst comes to worst livecd
[10:53] <nicolai_> K-Ryan and pagux2you: If any abnormal changes has been done to the repository list, you might experience a true crash.
[10:53] <K-Ryan> Alright alright
[10:53] <pagux2you> nicolai_: i dont want reboot as updator had downloaded all the packages and crashed midway applying it
[10:53] <nicolai_> K-Ryan and pagux2you: It was mostly when the crash was due to server overload that it was safe to reboot
[10:54] <pagux2you> i have run dpkg --configure -a its seems to applying all packages
[10:54] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: go to the folder where the avi file is in konqueror and then do gmplayer filename.avi, if the name has spaces try gmplayer "file name.avi"
[10:54] <BluesKaj> NM , Ace2016 i changed the order for opening avi files and VLC is now the default
[10:55] <nicolai_> pagux2you: It will apply changes, but it might not be completely fixed
[10:55] <pagux2you> what do in this case
[10:55] <zblach> hey all. quick question. when I go to add printers through system settings or kcontrol, it locks up. what gives?
[10:56] <ulrich__> okay guys i go offline thanks for the help nicolai =) *waves*
[10:56] <nicolai_> pagux2you: The big question is whether or not you updated KDE back in Edgy (3.5.5 to 3.5.6)
[10:57] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: have fun
[10:57] <pagux2you> how do i find that out kde -version ?
[10:58] <pagux2you> nicolai_: How to find out current kde version ?
[10:58] <AFaith> hello people :)
[10:58] <nicolai_> pagux2you: now that the packages are somewhat installed it might say 3.5.6 no matter what.You can still try to right click on "start- panel" -> "help" -> "about KDE"
[10:58] <AFaith> i have finally installed feisty P
[10:58] <AFaith> :P
[10:59] <AFaith> have a question.. whats the best method to install nvidia drivers ?
[10:59] <SlimeyPete> :)
[10:59] <AFaith> via restricted drivers
[10:59] <AFaith> via automatix2
[10:59] <AFaith> or via envy ?
[10:59] <SlimeyPete> don't use automatix. If you do, you won't get any support in the support channels - the official advice is to stay away from automatix.
[11:00] <nicolai_> pagux2you: if it says 3.5.5, you should be safe. If it says 3.5.6 we need to be sure. (I would actually recommend doing this second step anyway)
[11:01] <AFaith> SlimeyPete : oh ... why are you have this atitude about automatix ?
[11:01] <nicolai_> pagux2you: once the console has finished configuring packages, it should be safe to open Adept again.
[11:01] <rommel> Hello Everyone, I need to Install Adobe Acrobat reader in my Ubuntu Box Please Help?
[11:01] <K-Ryan> So, anyone know where in /etc/X11/fonts I'm supposed to put a tahoma.ttf font file?
[11:01] <K-Ryan> rommel: do you need a pdf viewer, or Adobe Acrobat period?
[11:02] <nicolai_> pagux2you: another way of checking could be to type   sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:02] <rommel> a good pdf viewer!
[11:02] <AFaith> so ... what should i use ? restricted drivers or envy ?
[11:02] <SlimeyPete> AFaith: it tends to break things. It's quite common to see someone appear in the support channels and ask about a problem, and then it turns out they used automatix.
[11:02] <K-Ryan> rommel: I'm pretty sure Kubuntu comes with one by default
[11:02] <AFaith> i see...
[11:03] <K-Ryan> But you can always search "pdf" in the repos
[11:03] <pagux2you> nicolai_: it says  3.5.5
[11:03] <SlimeyPete> AFaith: may as well try envy, then if that doesn't work try manually installing the packages
[11:03] <rommel> which one are you using?
[11:03] <K-Ryan> Whichever one comes default.
[11:03] <rommel> can I use Adobe?
[11:04] <K-Ryan> Hold on one sec, I'll check.
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> the one in kubuntu is called kghostview, I think?
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> or something similar
[11:04] <JohnFlux> kpdf is the kde one
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> it seems OK - seems to open every file I've come across so far
[11:04] <JohnFlux> kpdf is the better one
[11:04] <nicolai_> pagux2you: that should make things a lot easier :)
[11:04] <rommel> ePDF Viewer
[11:04] <AFaith> SlimeyPete : should i try envy first ?
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> AFaith: yeah
[11:04] <zblach> it's a real pain adding printers. was there an update I missed?
[11:04] <nicolai_> pagux2you: Now you haven't used automatix or easyubuntu?
[11:04] <AFaith> ok ... lets hope it will work :)
[11:05] <K-Ryan> rommel: there is no adobe acrobat package in the universe/multiverse/official repos
[11:05] <pagux2you> nicolai_: I have does that upgrade your OS too ??
[11:05] <Asasin> Alright... so I was going to install Kubuntu and the only free partition is one with Windows on it. If I resize that by like 10 GB will it delete any of the files?
[11:05] <K-Ryan> So either it's going to be a pain in the neck getting it to work, or you won't be able to get it to work period.
[11:05] <rommel> ok
[11:05] <rommel> where did you see that?
[11:05] <K-Ryan> I know it
[11:05] <rommel> ok
[11:06] <nicolai_> zblach: add the necessary ppd files then system settings -> printer. And make sure the printer isn't connected by a USB hub (directly into the computer by USB should be ok)
[11:06] <rommel> See under the Applications > Office > What is the Name of the PDF viewer that you have there, Please
[11:06] <AFaith> yet another question :)
[11:06] <AFaith> envy beta or stable ?
[11:06] <K-Ryan> If I'm not mistaken you'd have to get Wine, then install Adobe Acrobat, and everytime you want to open a PDF you would have to open it through Wine.
[11:06] <nicolai_> pagux2you: automatix messes up your system :/
[11:07] <K-Ryan> I don't have a PDF viewer in that section.
[11:07] <zblach> nicolai_: printer is connected to a windows box downstairs. problem is system settings crashes when I select 'printers'
[11:07] <pagux2you> yeah thats why i dont use ...I rather install codecs manually
[11:07] <zblach> i've had success with hoary -> edgy
[11:07] <K-Ryan> But I do have kpdf
[11:07] <rommel> ok
[11:07] <rommel> I am installing now ePDFviewer
[11:08] <tsdgeos> K-Ryan: it's on graphics section
[11:08] <rommel> lets see if that do the trick
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Ace2016, mplayer complains about VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.1 - no such file or directory
[11:08] <K-Ryan> Good call tsdgeos
[11:08] <pagux2you> when are we getting kde 4 ?
[11:08] <Rictoo_> How would make Ubuntu a different language? (eg., Hungarian)
[11:08] <AFaith> SlimeyPete: which envy version should i install ? the beta version or the stable one ?
[11:08] <rommel> tsdgeos?
[11:08] <Rictoo_> How would I make Ubuntu a different language? (eg., Hungarian)
[11:08] <nicolai_> pagux2you: Have you used automatix or easyubuntu since your last installation?
[11:08] <K-Ryan> Rictoo_ KDE Menu> System Settings
[11:08] <tsdgeos> rommel: kpdf is on k-menu -> graphics
[11:09] <K-Ryan> Then Regional & Language
[11:09] <tsdgeos> not on k-menu -> office
[11:09] <Rictoo_> K-Ryan: What if my language isn't there?
[11:09] <K-Ryan> Is it?
[11:09] <Rictoo_> Nope
[11:09] <nicolai_> pagux2you: I think KDE 4.0 will be released october 22 this year.
[11:09] <K-Ryan> CLick Install New Language
[11:09] <rommel> K-Ryan: No, It is not there!
[11:09] <K-Ryan> What rommel? Kpdf is in the graphics section, if it is installed.
[11:10] <Rictoo_> K-Ryan: Will the entire Kubuntu be that language then?
[11:10] <K-Ryan> If you select it, I think so.
[11:10] <Rictoo_> :\
[11:10] <rommel> let me see if it is available to install
[11:10] <K-Ryan> I've never changed languages so I couldn't tell you.
[11:10] <nicolai_> pagux2you: ahh.. 23 of october :P
[11:10] <K-Ryan> But you should only need to install it, then select it.
[11:10] <K-Ryan> !fonts
[11:10] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:10] <zblach> nicolai_: and crashes at the 'add printer' wizard through kcontrol
[11:11] <kblog> is anybody using a wlan-card? how difficult is it to install it?
[11:11] <vrun> Hi Folks :-)
[11:11] <Ace2016> hi
[11:11] <K-Ryan> Hi there vrun
[11:12] <rommel> K-Ryan: It is available to install, Thanks for your HELP... Keep it Up....Helping each other is the only way to make any linux version to overcome MS.
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Ace2016, mplayer complains about VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.1 - no such file or directory
[11:12] <K-Ryan> rommel: Glad I could help
[11:12] <rommel> THANKS
[11:12] <nicolai_> zblach: I must admit I cannot help with that. I only know that there are problems with some lexmark printers and that it often works better to not use a hub for connecting printers.
[11:13] <zblach> alright, i'll keep investigating
[11:13] <pagux2you> nicolai_: Its finished appying going for reebot wish me luck
[11:13] <zblach> if i find anything, would you like me to let you know?
[11:13] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: never seen that error before maybe #ubuntu might be able to help
[11:13] <nicolai_> pagux2you: good luck
[11:13] <vrun> ...I just lost my "KDE Menu" ... could recreate it ... but the icon is an open yellow box ... and half of my apps are in Lost&Found now...:-(
[11:13] <vrun> Anybody know what happend?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Ace2016, here's the output from the terminal, http://www.pastebin.ca/497445
[11:14] <K-Ryan> Does anyone know where I should put a tahoma.ttf font file? I need it to be used in Wine but when I put it in .wine/drive_c/windows/fonts it doesn't work.
[11:14] <pagux2you> bye bye folks ...if my systems still work after reboot we will meet again :-)
[11:15] <K-Ryan> Someone told me to put it in my X11 fonts folder, but there are a few different folder there and I'm unsure of which one to place it in.
[11:15] <nicolai_> zblach: I'll probably be in bed within 30 minutes, so I'm not sure I can be of much help. :)
[11:15] <zblach> ok
[11:15] <K-Ryan> Anyone? Please? =(
[11:16] <vrun> K-Ryan ... http://penguinfonts.com/howto/ubuntu.php  ...should be of help ;-)
[11:17] <AFaith> should i run envy as root or with sudo envy ?
[11:17] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: the problem is with your settings, try    gmplayer -vo xv /home/kaj/Charlotte's.Web.avi
[11:17] <K-Ryan> Using sudo is running it as root if I'm not mistaken.
[11:17] <K-Ryan> !sudo
[11:17] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:18] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[11:18] <AFaith> oh .. i see ...
[11:18] <AFaith> thanks :)
[11:19] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[11:21] <arturas_> sveiki
[11:21] <DarkParad0x> can anyone help with a prob? i've installed beryl through adept a few days ago and had it set to auto startup, i now removed it and it still won't show my shut down, restart, etc buttons, only log out, any way i can retrieve them?
[11:21] <AFaith> got to restart my pc... hope that envy did his job
[11:21] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: you haven't installed the w32 codecs have you, its a part of that
[11:22] <BluesKaj> yes, i have all coedcs installed and then some , Ace2016
[11:22] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: run locate wmvdmod.dll     does the output show /usr/lib/codecs/wmvdmod.dll
[11:23] <K-Ryan> vrun I think that fixed it, that and some of my tweaking.
[11:23] <K-Ryan> Thanks a bunch
[11:24] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: you might have to update locate's database first, run  sudo updatedb
[11:24] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: then run locate wmvdmod.dll   and if it doesn't show that file then you need to install the codecs
[11:25] <BluesKaj> I don't have xvideo support according to the error output , ace
[11:25] <BluesKaj> err Ace2016
[11:25] <vrun> K-Ryan ... congrats
[11:29] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) Other variations are PIBKAC ("Problem Is Between Keyboard And Chair"), PEBCAC ("Problem Exists Between Chair and Computer"), PEBMAC ("Problem Exists Between Monitor And Chair"), PEBCAK ("Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard"), PEBDAC ("Problem Exists Between Desk And Chair") or EBKAC ("Error Between Keyboard And Chair"). The occasionally seen variant PEBKAM ("Problem Exists Between...
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) PEBKAC is an acronym which stands for "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair". The phrase is used by computer experts as a semi-humorous way to describe to one another that the problem was not in the computer but was instead caused by the user operating it.
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) Another variation of Pebkac is POBCAC (Problem Occurs Between Computer and Chair)
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu)     * POBCAC.co.uk
[11:30] (Ace2016/#kubuntu) BluesKaj: press Alt+F2, type mplayer to run it, right click on video area, go to preferances, and select the video output you want in the video tab
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) ...Keyboard and Monitor") would appear to be based on a misunderstanding and/or misremembrance of the phrase.
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) In 2006, Intel began running a number of PEBKAC web-based advertisements to promote their vPro platform.
[11:30] (K-Ryan/#kubuntu) Stop the spam, thanks.
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) Other variations are PIBKAC ("Problem Is Between Keyboard And Chair"), PEBCAC ("Problem Exists Between Chair and Computer"), PEBMAC ("Problem Exists Between Monitor And Chair"), PEBCAK ("Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard"), PEBDAC ("Problem Exists Between Desk And Chair") or EBKAC ("Error Between Keyboard And Chair"). The occasionally seen variant PEBKAM ("Problem Exists Between...
[11:30] (slougi/#kubuntu) thanks for the flooding
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) PEBKAC is an acronym which stands for "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair". The phrase is used by computer experts as a semi-humorous way to describe to one another that the problem was not in the computer but was instead caused by the user operating it.
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) Another variation of Pebkac is POBCAC (Problem Occurs Between Computer and Chair)
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu)     * POBCAC.co.uk
[11:30] (K-Ryan/#kubuntu) Stop!
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) ...Keyboard and Monitor") would appear to be based on a misunderstanding and/or misremembrance of the phrase.
[11:30] (HungryBeerBelly/#kubuntu) In 2006, Intel began running a number of PEBKAC web-based advertisements to promote their vPro platform.
[11:30] (cpk1/#kubuntu) !ops
[11:30] (ubotu/#kubuntu) Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[11:30] (K-Ryan/#kubuntu) Someone stop him!
[11:30] <K-Ryan> Thanks
[11:31] <nixternal> thanks for the warning :)
[11:31] <pagux2you> its installed
[11:31] <nixternal> haha, beat ya Hobbsee :)
[11:31] <Hobbsee> laggy chanserv....
[11:31] <nixternal> hehe
[11:31] <Hobbsee> nixternal: i connected recently, and it took a good 10 seconds before chanserv responded back
[11:31] <nixternal> ahhh
[11:31] <pagux2you> nicolai_: its it says glx is installed ...its also showing a pakage called new Nivdia Glx
[11:32] <nixternal> I just seen that in -devel
[11:32] <nicolai_> pagux2you: if nvidia-glx is installed, then we're halfway there.
[11:32] <K-Ryan> First time I'm going to try running Half-Life
[11:32] <K-Ryan> Wish me luck!
[11:33] <Ace2016> K-Ryan: good luck, you might need it
[11:33] <cpk1> pagux2you: what card do you have? really new cards should probably use the nvidia-glx-new package
[11:33] <gnomefreak> nicolai_: your gonna need to ban his name too
[11:33] <K-Ryan> I hope not, but here goes nothin'
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ack
[11:33] <pagux2you> nicolai_: now what change X.org ...is that the next step ?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> nixternal: your gonna need to ban his name too
[11:33] <nicolai_> pagux2you: ban me?
[11:33] <gemidjy_> anyway to grep for binary characters, such as the <feff> BOM character? :/
[11:34] <nicolai_> sorry gnomefreak: ban me?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> nicolai_: not you auto complete messed up
[11:34] <pagux2you> nicolai_:  i got it year back ...wud that come under new ?
[11:34] <AFaith> it's me again :(
[11:35] <AFaith> envy method failed
[11:35] <PF-Away> envy bad
[11:35] <PF-Away> !nvidia | AFaith
[11:35] <ubotu> AFaith: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:35] <nicolai_> pagux2you: Go to system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin ->  configure -> proprietary
[11:35] <AFaith> xserver did not started...
[11:35] <AFaith> but the settings that envy did ?
[11:35] <AFaith> what should i do with them ?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> right on Ace2016 , that one cmnd on the avi file was enuff to reset mplayer to X11 .. thx again for your help :)
[11:36] <Ace2016> np
[11:36] <Ace2016> bye all
[11:36] <PF-Away> :D
[11:38] <nicolai_> pagux2you: I got my graphics card about a year ago too. I use nvidia-glx
[11:38] <nicolai_> pagux2you: have you used my guide?
[11:40] <pagux2you> nicolai_: i can use Monitor and Display ...its giving Error like .....Orphaned module ...old 3rd party modules still lying around :-(
[11:40] <pagux2you> nicolai_: i CAN'T use Monitor and Display ...its giving Error like .....Orphaned module ...old 3rd party modules still lying around :-(
[11:42] <Ayabara> anyone using beagle/kerry, stringi or another good indexing tool?
[11:42] <Ayabara> eh. strigi I meant
[11:43] <pagux2you> nicolai_: my friend r u there ?
[11:44] <nicolai_> pagux2you: hmm... that sounds like something that I'm too tired to help with now. I never felt certain whether or not yu had used automatix (to install nvidia card for example).
[11:44] <lobster> hello
[11:44] <Ayabara> !strigi
[11:44] <ubotu> strigi is an application which index the files on your desktop. homepage: http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/ package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=strigi&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[11:45] <pagux2you> i installed nvidea driver manually last time
[11:45] <Ayabara> would you recommend strigi over beagle?
[11:45] <pagux2you> and made changes in X.conf
[11:45] <nicolai_> pagux2you: ahh
[11:45] <nicolai_> hmm
[11:46] <nicolai_> pagux2you: I did that in suse 1 years ago. Not a pleasant experience. :/
[11:46] <pagux2you> yeah ...
[11:46] <lobster> anyone familiar with using knetwork for monitoring my wireless router?
[11:47] <jordi_> Hi, ca n anybody give me some aknowledgement about how to set a Hauppauge WinTV Bt878 TV Card?
[11:48] <nicolai_> pagux2you: oh well... i have to go to bed.. my head is starting to hit the keyboard. I might be here for a few hours tomorrow.
[11:48] <PhinnFort> redrawing of the screen is really laggy
[11:51] <K-Ryan> Hey guys I'm using Wine to play Half-Life and I was getting no sound.
[11:51] <lobster> K-ryan: now?
[11:51] <lobster> K-ryan: and now?
[11:52] <K-Ryan> I don't think have this emu10k1/2 chpset or Envy24 thing
[11:52] <lobster> K-ryan: only no sound in wine?
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Well I'm not playing it this second, so I couldn't tell you.
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Yes, in Wine.
[11:52] <K-Ryan> So in the FAQ it says something about typing "cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp" in the terminal and it says the device is busy.
[11:52] <lobster> winehq.org
[11:52] <K-Ryan> So I'm guessing that is what's doing it.
[11:53] <K-Ryan> How can I find out what program is using it?
[11:53] <lobster> k-ryan cat /dev/urandom will send a random string of characters to /dev/dsp.  why would you want o do that?
[11:53] <AFaith> me again :D
[11:54] <K-Ryan> Here, http://winehq.atomnet.co.uk/faq.html#noosssound
[11:54] <AFaith> i've installed the restricted driver
[11:54] <K-Ryan> See?
[11:54] <lobster> k-ryan join #winehq, they will be able to help you
[11:54] <K-Ryan> They said "Read the FAQ"
[11:54] <K-Ryan> They're really not that helpful
[11:54] <AFaith> and my monitor acts the same like when i set a wrong resolution
[11:54] <K-Ryan> They wouldn't help me get Steam fonts working...
[11:55] <gp> hi
[11:55] <K-Ryan> Hi gp
[11:55] <AFaith> hello gp :)
[11:55] <AFaith> K-Ryan: any other ideas ?
[11:55] <lobster> K-ryan did you go to winehq.org?
[11:55] <K-Ryan> AFaith that wasn't for you =P
[11:55] <gp> where does Kubuntu stores X config
[11:55] <AFaith> gp i belive in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <AFaith> am i right ?
[11:56] <dacyso> yes
[11:56] <K-Ryan> lobster I'm reading the FAQ, and this section said to try that line, http://winehq.atomnet.co.uk/faq.html#noosssound
[11:56] <AFaith> K-Ryan: any ideas how can i setup my monitor ?
[11:56] <gp> i cant find it in
[11:56] <gp> root@gp-desktop:/etc/X11# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <gp> cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[11:56] <lobster> what is your sound card?
[11:56] <K-Ryan> AFaith: Sorry I've never dealt with monitor setups in Kubuntu, you can try the system settings area though.
[11:57] <AFaith> ok ....
[11:57] <K-Ryan> lobster: I've no idea.
[11:57] <K-Ryan> Sorry AFaith =/
[11:57] <AFaith> but how can i find the exact name of the monitor ?
[11:57] <lobster> K-ryan you dont know what your sound card is?
[11:57] <AFaith> so i could ask google
[11:57] <AFaith> for the answer
[11:57] <K-Ryan> It's an integrated Intel thing if I'm not mistaken.
[11:57] <cpk1> gp: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if its not there you should recreate it
[11:57] <K-Ryan> But I'm not positive.
[11:57] <gp> K-Ryan: System Setting Monitor setting is not working after upgrade
[11:58] <gp> cpk1: How then kubuntu is rinning X then ?
[11:58] <dacyso> gp : try find / -name xorg.conf
[11:58] <cpk1> gp: if you lost it after you started X
[12:00] <gp> after upgrade my Xserver crashed due to nvidea config in 6.10 but I manageg to start X by renaming X.conf after that its not created x.conf even after rebooting !!
[12:00] <AFaith> i've seen that in /var/log/Xorg.0.log my monitors name is Generic moonitor
[12:01] <AFaith> thats not the name of it
[12:01] <dacyso> did you try to reinstall nvidia drivers ?
[12:01] <lobster> K-ryan try the cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp again
[12:01] <AFaith> dacyso: i've just installed them
[12:01] <K-Ryan> device  or resource busy
[12:01] <AFaith> i've tryied with envy but it failed and then via restricted drivers
[12:01] <lobster> what type of computer do you have?
[12:01] <K-Ryan> Sony Vaio
[12:01] <K-Ryan> From '01
[12:02] <gp> is there any utility to generate x.conf ?
[12:02] <gp> i think there  was some thing i used in redhat
[12:03] <gp> dont remember the name though
[12:03] <dacyso> gp: don't see, but nvidia drivers do that
[12:03] <dacyso> if you compile them
[12:03] <cpk1> gp: yes dpkg does it but i forget the exact command
[12:04] <dacyso> gp : i forgot the usual dpkg --reconfigure X11-package
[12:04] <dacyso> gp : (can't remeber his name)
[12:05] <cpk1> it should be something like dpkg-reconfigure xorg -someoptions
[12:05] <cpk1> i think
[12:05] <lobster> it shouldn't have an issue with multiple sound inputs, can you reboot and try again?
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:07] <dacyso> yes
[12:15] <Lilacor> hi everyone