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| jrib | gluttony: hi | 09:40 |
|---|---|---|
| gluttony | yo | 09:40 |
| jrib | ok, you took a quick look at your fstab? | 09:40 |
| jrib | you get the basic idea? | 09:40 |
| gluttony | not really. | 09:40 |
| jrib | <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> | 09:40 |
| gluttony | o ok | 09:40 |
| jrib | you only have to realize what the first two columns are | 09:40 |
| jrib | so what you want to do is have a new line where it says: | 09:41 |
| gluttony | ok | 09:41 |
| jrib | my_other_partition /home blah blah blah | 09:41 |
| jrib | so, first thing to do is figure out what the other partition is. Do you know that? | 09:41 |
| gluttony | yeah, sd1 | 09:42 |
| jrib | sd1? | 09:42 |
| jrib | you sure? | 09:42 |
| jrib | sdb1 maybe? | 09:42 |
| gluttony | sda1, sorry | 09:43 |
| jrib | and what is your / now? | 09:44 |
| gluttony | my what? | 09:44 |
| gluttony | hda3 | 09:44 |
| gluttony | /dev/hda3 to be exact | 09:44 |
| jrib | ok so here is how to move your home: | 09:44 |
| jrib | 1. reboot in recovery mode | 09:45 |
| jrib | 2. mount /dev/sdb1 somewhere | 09:45 |
| gluttony | youve lost me already | 09:45 |
| jrib | 3. mv /home/* /place/you/mounted/sdb1 | 09:45 |
| jrib | ok I'll go over each one you have questions on at the end | 09:45 |
| jrib | 4. edit fstab to mount sdb1 as /home | 09:46 |
| jrib | 5. reboot | 09:46 |
| jrib | gluttony: ok what's the first thing you are unsure of? | 09:46 |
| gluttony | pretty much each step, cept 5 | 09:47 |
| jrib | :) | 09:47 |
| gluttony | like, i dont even have a sdb1 | 09:47 |
| jrib | ok, 1. recovery mode is a choice from the grub menu when you boot | 09:47 |
| jrib | sorry, sda1 | 09:47 |
| jrib | gluttony: so 1 should make sense now? | 09:48 |
| gluttony | the grub menu, thats that list ok stuff at boot to pick from, right? | 09:48 |
| jrib | right | 09:48 |
| gluttony | is it suppoed to have a bunch of entries? | 09:49 |
| jrib | yes | 09:49 |
| gluttony | ok. because when i first installed ubuntu, it didnt have so many choices | 09:49 |
| jrib | "recovery mode" should definitely be there | 09:49 |
| gluttony | ok | 09:50 |
| jrib | alright, so 2. now | 09:50 |
| gluttony | just to clairfy, this is the list that has windows on it too,right? | 09:50 |
| jrib | yep | 09:50 |
| gluttony | ok | 09:51 |
| jrib | gluttony: what happens to sda1 now? does it get automatically mounted somewhere? | 09:51 |
| gluttony | hell if i know | 09:51 |
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| gluttony | i guess it does | 09:52 |
| jrib | gluttony: pastebin your /etc/fstab | 09:52 |
| gluttony | pastbin? not certain of that terminology | 09:53 |
| jrib | !pastebin | 09:53 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 09:53 |
| gluttony | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21602/ | 09:55 |
| gluttony | ubotu: thanks | 09:55 |
| ubotu | You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) | 09:55 |
| jrib | gluttony: hmm sda1 seems to be being used as /usr already | 09:56 |
| gluttony | really? | 09:56 |
| jrib | yep | 09:57 |
| gluttony | im cnfused about how all of this works. what is kept in /usr? | 09:58 |
| jrib | gluttony: most of the stuff you install ends up somewhere in /usr | 09:58 |
| jrib | !fhs | 09:58 |
| ubotu | The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux | 09:58 |
| gluttony | ok | 09:59 |
| gluttony | so, where is my home? is home usr or what? | 09:59 |
| jrib | home is /home and usr is /usr | 10:00 |
| jrib | your /usr is on a seperate partition | 10:00 |
| jrib | everyting else is /hda3 | 10:00 |
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| jrib | then you have a seap at hda2 and some windows partition on hda1 | 10:00 |
| jrib | s/seap/swap | 10:01 |
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| gluttony | ive tried creating folders in usr, but it didt work | 10:01 |
| jrib | you usually do not want to modify anything outside your home | 10:02 |
| gluttony | so i dont want to save stuff to usr? | 10:02 |
| jrib | no | 10:03 |
| gluttony | damn, then i made my /usr too big | 10:03 |
| jrib | pastebin: df -h | 10:03 |
| gluttony | and /home too small | 10:03 |
| gluttony | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21604/ | 10:05 |
| jrib | gluttony: what sda2 for? | 10:06 |
| gluttony | windows | 10:08 |
| jrib | well I guess you could move /usr back to hda3 and then move home there | 10:08 |
| jrib | "there" being sda1 | 10:08 |
| gluttony | but sda2 is in use | 10:09 |
| jrib | sda1 | 10:09 |
| gluttony | they both are in use | 10:09 |
| jrib | right but sda1 is being used as /usr, so just move /usr to hda3 | 10:09 |
| gluttony | will it fit? | 10:10 |
| jrib | yeah | 10:10 |
| jrib | it's only using 3GB | 10:10 |
| gluttony | ok, how do i do that | 10:11 |
| jrib | and you have 10GB free on / | 10:11 |
| gluttony | ok, so what do i do to move home to sda1, and usr to hda3? | 10:12 |
| gluttony | and what goes in usr? | 10:14 |
| jrib | /usr has most of the stuff you install | 10:14 |
| gluttony | well, will those 10 gigs be able to hold any app installs? | 10:15 |
| jrib | gluttony: it's probably a good idea to copy /usr over to / first | 10:15 |
| jrib | gluttony: definitely | 10:15 |
| gluttony | ok | 10:15 |
| jrib | sudo cp -a /usr /usr.backup | 10:16 |
| jrib | that's a command | 10:16 |
| gluttony | can i put home and user on the same drive? | 10:16 |
| jrib | if you create two partitions I guess | 10:17 |
| gluttony | so i can resize an existing partion in Gparted? without deleting it | 10:17 |
| jrib | 20gb is plenty for stuff other than /home. Remember that you are moving your /home out so you'll get more space | 10:17 |
| gluttony | ok | 10:18 |
| gluttony | ok, i gave the command. if theres any future command, i need sudo to use them, fyi. | 10:18 |
| jrib | is it still going? | 10:19 |
| gluttony | it hasnt even started. the cursor is just blinking | 10:20 |
| jrib | yeah it will take a while | 10:20 |
| gluttony | ok | 10:20 |
| gluttony | after that, what do i do? | 10:20 |
| jrib | edit your fstab | 10:20 |
| jrib | I guess we can do that now | 10:20 |
| gluttony | can you step by step help me? | 10:21 |
| jrib | gluttony: do you still have your fstab open? | 10:22 |
| gluttony | no | 10:22 |
| jrib | gluttony: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab | 10:22 |
| gluttony | whats the gk mean? | 10:23 |
| jrib | !gksudo | 10:24 |
| ubotu | If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo <GUI-application> | 10:24 |
| gluttony | ok | 10:24 |
| gluttony | i have fstab open now | 10:24 |
| jrib | put a # in front of a line 10 | 10:25 |
| gluttony | ok, whats that do? | 10:25 |
| jrib | it comments that line so it doesn't get read | 10:25 |
| gluttony | sudo cp .... is done by the way | 10:26 |
| jrib | k | 10:26 |
| jrib | no errrors right? | 10:26 |
| gluttony | im just curious why that line needs to not be read | 10:26 |
| gluttony | right, no errors | 10:26 |
| jrib | gluttony: ok done with fstab? | 10:27 |
| gluttony | yeah, i put in the comment | 10:27 |
| gluttony | what did sudo cp do? | 10:27 |
| jrib | it copied your /usr on sda1 to /usr/backup on hda3 | 10:28 |
| gluttony | ok | 10:28 |
| jrib | ok, now I think the next step will probably fail, but we'll try... | 10:28 |
| jrib | sudo umount /dev/sda1 | 10:28 |
| gluttony | command not found | 10:29 |
| jrib | what is the full error output? | 10:29 |
| gluttony | sudo: unmount: command not found | 10:29 |
| jrib | "umount" not "unmount" | 10:29 |
| gluttony | umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted | 10:30 |
| jrib | hmm | 10:31 |
| jrib | type "mount" | 10:31 |
| jrib | or did you use the command twice? | 10:31 |
| gluttony | nope | 10:31 |
| gluttony | ok, i ran mount | 10:32 |
| jrib | gluttony: do: sudo umount /usr | 10:32 |
| gluttony | umount: /usr: device is busy | 10:32 |
| gluttony | umount: /usr: device is busy | 10:32 |
| jrib | yeah okay | 10:32 |
| jrib | you'll have to reboot in recovery mode | 10:32 |
| gluttony | ok, i can still use xchat right? | 10:33 |
| jrib | no | 10:33 |
| jrib | it's one command that you need to do: sudo mv /usr.backup /usr | 10:33 |
| jrib | then reboot | 10:33 |
| jrib | if you run into trouble boot windows and come here :) | 10:33 |
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| gluttony | ok, how do i check that i worked? | 10:41 |
| jrib | it worked | 10:41 |
| gluttony | ok | 10:42 |
| jrib | you can type "mount" and check if /usr is on sda1 or not if you want | 10:42 |
| gluttony | i cant tel | 10:43 |
| jrib | pastebin | 10:43 |
| gluttony | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21610/ | 10:44 |
| jrib | pastebin your fstab | 10:45 |
| gluttony | whats the fstab open command again? | 10:45 |
| jrib | gedit /etc/fstab | 10:45 |
| gluttony | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21612/ | 10:46 |
| jrib | line 10 isn't commented | 10:46 |
| gluttony | i know i put it there earlier | 10:46 |
| jrib | you must not have saved | 10:47 |
| gluttony | oh, lol, i didnt save it..... | 10:47 |
| gluttony | it wont let me save. i can only do save as | 10:47 |
| jrib | close it | 10:47 |
| jrib | then: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab | 10:48 |
| gluttony | ok | 10:49 |
| gluttony | saved do i need to recovery again? | 10:49 |
| jrib | just reboot | 10:49 |
| jrib | guess something went wrong... | 10:56 |
| jrib | oh wait I know what happened | 10:57 |
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| jrib | when he booted in recovery mode he did mv /usr.backup /usr which put everything back in sda1... | 10:57 |
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| jrib | neversfelde: here to stay? | 11:05 |
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| jrib | I'm going to be afk for a bit... if gluttony returns on windows, tell him about the windows driver so he can edit files (!ext3) and have him uncomment line 10 in his fstab that will get him back to step 1 | 11:10 |
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| gluttony | jrib: that didnt work | 11:14 |
| gluttony | jrib: im running off the live cd right now | 11:15 |
| jrib | I'm going to be afk for a bit... if gluttony returns on windows, tell him about the windows driver so he can edit files (!ext3) and have him uncomment line 10 in his fstab that will get him back to step 1 | 11:16 |
| jrib | gluttony: yeah, error in my logic | 11:17 |
| jrib | not saving fstab before made the mv command do something else | 11:17 |
| gluttony | ok, so what do i do to fix it? | 11:17 |
| jrib | gluttony: open a terminal | 11:17 |
| jrib | sudo mkdir /media/linux | 11:17 |
| gluttony | will this work on the live cd? | 11:18 |
| jrib | yes | 11:18 |
| jrib | sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/linux | 11:18 |
| jrib | does that work? | 11:18 |
| jrib | actually | 11:18 |
| jrib | now that you are on the live cd we can do the whole thing from here | 11:18 |
| gluttony | ok | 11:19 |
| jrib | gluttony: do you have a bunch of file if you go to /media/linux now? | 11:19 |
| gluttony | still run the command? | 11:19 |
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| jrib | sudo mkdir /media/linux | 11:19 |
| gluttony | how do i check? | 11:19 |
| jrib | sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/linux | 11:19 |
| jrib | "nautilus /media/linux" | 11:19 |
| gluttony | pop up said "counld not find | 11:20 |
| jrib | gluttony: ok | 11:21 |
| jrib | run this command: sudo mkdir /media/linux | 11:21 |
| jrib | tell me any output | 11:21 |
| jrib | gluttony: are you there? | 11:23 |
| gluttony | sorry, | 11:23 |
| gluttony | mkdir: cannot create directory `media/linux': No such file or directory | 11:24 |
| jrib | did you type "sudo mkdir /media/linux" with two '/' in there? | 11:24 |
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