[12:34] <nixternal> Hobbsee: rock on, Krename should be uploaded within the hour to Debian and I will request the sync!
[12:34] <Hobbsee> nixternal: yay!
[12:34] <nixternal> and that bad boy will be done until they (Krename) decide to upgrade again
[12:35] <nixternal> which I see coming soon, because I believe they used a couple really cheap hacks to close some bugs
[12:47] <nixternal> haha
[12:47] <nixternal> thanks!
[12:48] <nixternal> booyah!
[12:48] <toma> auw
[11:23] <landysh> hola
[12:00] <toma> hi
[12:01] <mhb> hi
[12:18] <Riddell> hola
[12:19] <Tm_T> moin
[12:19] <Tm_T> two weeks from now I begin to work Kopete status message manager
[12:19] <Tm_T> well, that's the plan :)
[12:41] <Riddell> why in two weeks?
[12:42] <Tm_T> well, friday there's, err, what's that called, exam to get into Uni
[12:43] <Tm_T> and after that I must take one week real holiday, all this moving etc is exhausting
[12:43] <Riddell> entrace exam
[12:43] <Tm_T> that's the one
[12:43] <Riddell> entrance exam
[12:44] <Tm_T> interesting no hear now that I propably have adhd or similar
[12:45] <persia> Riddell: I was directed to verify with you that arts was the package that might block a sound device in the default KDE session, and confirm that it was configured to release after a short period of time (60 seconds or so).
[12:45] <Tm_T> let's see if medication they like to me to try will work
[12:49] <Riddell> persia: seems the likely candidate, and it should let go after 60 seconds
[12:50] <persia> Riddell: Thanks.
[12:50] <Tm_T> I wonder if arts could use plug:dmix
[12:52] <Riddell> we don't get many reports of arts blocking sound though, it seems to only happen on a minority of sound cards
[12:52] <Tm_T> yu
[12:53] <Tm_T> I think it more at workaround _when_ it causes problems
[12:53] <Tm_T> I don't use arts myself in my workstation and still waiting to get my test box back
[12:54] <Riddell> how do you not use arts?
[01:25] <Hobbsee> er, meeting wont work this current week anyway
[01:25] <Hobbsee> seeing as they're having meetings all week at the target time
[01:25] <Hobbsee> unless we change it to be during european lunchtime, or so
[01:32] <Riddell> monday meeting?
[01:33] <Hobbsee> there's a thought
[01:33] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i never got your text message, btw
[01:37] <Riddell> probably got lost flying half way over the world and back
[01:37] <Hobbsee> may well have done
[01:37] <Hobbsee> how was your holiday?
[01:38] <Riddell> too short
[01:38] <Hobbsee> heh :)
[01:39] <Riddell> full of visiting people and then it was over without much relaxation
[01:39] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:42] <Tm_T> Riddell: how I use arts? I don't have it running, and when I compile svn stuff to my use, I use -noarts :)
[01:43] <Tm_T> alsa & hwmix
[01:43] <Riddell> does kde still output sound?
[01:43] <Tm_T> and systemsounds uses alsaplayer or similar
[01:43] <Riddell> right
[01:44] <Tm_T> but I know it's not for everyone
[01:44] <Tm_T> I just personally don't liked arts back then and don't find any good reason to switch back now
[01:47] <Hobbsee> Riddell: debian kde team seems interested in working with us
[01:48] <Hobbsee> what's your opinion on that?
[01:48] <Tm_T> sounds reasonable to me
[01:49] <Tm_T> though depends what this "working with" means in this case
[02:04] <marseillai> Hobbsee: i've see you have work on kcontrol-autostart i'm upgrading it and i would like to know what i've to do after having my paskage ready? i send it on revu as i would do for a new release?
[02:06] <Hobbsee> marseillai: usually, yeah
[02:07] <marseillai> oki
[02:07] <marseillai> thx
[02:16] <marseillai> i don't understand : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21668/ wich build-dep am i missing ?
[02:27] <Riddell> marseillai: hmm, autofun
[02:27] <marseillai> Riddell: ?
[02:27] <Riddell> marseillai: try installing autoconf and automake and running make -f admin/Makefile.common
[02:29] <marseillai> it works Riddell
[02:29] <Tm_T> ok, going back to no-adsl-life ->
[02:29] <marseillai> Riddell: i've autotool as build-depend
[02:31] <Riddell> so run  make -f admin/Makefile.common
[02:34] <marseillai> Riddell: works too ...
[03:33] <marseillai> Riddell: now i've this error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21683/ you have an idea ?
[03:34] <Riddell> marseillai: nope, looks like a broken build system.  touch po/autostart.pot would probably fix it
[03:37] <marseillai> Riddell: in debian/rules ??
[03:38] <Riddell> just on the command line to test
[03:38] <marseillai> oki
[03:45] <marseillai> Riddell: same error
[03:49] <Riddell> well, I'm out of ideas
[03:49] <Riddell> put the sources somewhere if you want me to take a look
[03:53] <marseillai> Riddell: i'm uploading to revu
[03:55] <mhb> welcome back Riddell
[03:55] <frode> Riddell: can you tell from the top of your head where adept downlaods the dist-upgrader to?
[03:56] <Riddell> thanks marseillai
[03:56] <Riddell> mhb rather
[03:56] <Riddell> frode: /tmp/kde-<user>/adept-<randomstring>
[03:56] <Riddell> and extracts to /tmp/kde-<user>/adept-<randomstring>-extract
[03:56] <frode> Riddell: thanks. :)
[03:59] <mhb> what about the meeting,
[04:00] <mhb> ?
[04:00] <mhb> I don't think it is feasible to make it on next Monday, as it is tomorrow AFAIK
[04:00] <mhb> or did you mean the week after that?
[04:04] <marseillai> Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5215
[04:36] <cy_`> hello
[04:37] <cy_`> which tool does modify the xorg.conf when booting ? because i copied an image of a kubuntu installation to a disk, adjustet grub and everything.. and clearly the Driver in the xorg.conf was fglrx .. after a first boot of the system the Driver was changed to vesa also the Xkblayout and Resolution where "adjusted" ... when i changed it back after the first boot and rebootet, it did not change again..
[04:37] <cy_`> any hints ?
[04:38] <Riddell> cy_`: quite possibly /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore
[04:38] <Riddell> from guidance
[04:38] <Riddell> marseillai: compiling
[04:38] <marseillai> oki Riddell
[04:39] <cy_`> Riddell, thanks alot! :D
[04:39] <cy_`> how could i tell it not to do so ?
[04:39] <_Sime> cy_: it saw that your hardware had changed and automatically ran deb<something> reconfigure xorg
[04:41] <cy_`> _Sime, i dont want it to do so.. :|
[04:41] <cy_`> how can i stop that behaviour ?
[04:43] <_Sime>   /etc/init.d/kde-guidance
[04:46] <cy_`> hehe
[04:46] <cy_`> just reading through the python source
[04:46] <cy_`> i <3 irc quotes as comments in code.. hehe
[04:47] <cy_`> how could i tell it to simply accept the config atm and dont change it... by removing /var/lib/guidance/guidance-gfxhardware-snapshot  maybe ?
[04:48] <_Sime> well you can just stop /etc/init.d/kde-guidance from running at boot time.
[04:49] <cy_`> yeah, but then it would not work on a future gfx-card-change
[04:49] <Riddell> marseillai: try removing "noinst_HEADERS = autostart.pot" from po/Makefile.am and rerunning make -f admin/Makefile.common
[04:49] <cy_`> i would like it just to save and accept the config & hw as they are now and not change them.. but do so in the future if something changes
[04:51] <marseillai> seems to work Riddell i test
[05:00] <marseillai>  works Riddell
[05:00] <marseillai> :)
[05:00] <marseillai> thanks a lot
[05:04] <cy_`> i simply remove the guidance-gfxhardware-snapshot before the first reboot.. testing that now too..
[05:48] <marseillai_> Riddell: during the build it requires automake1.6 but there is no automake1.6 in repo
[05:48] <marseillai_> is there a way to solve this problem ?
[05:53] <Riddell> marseillai_: requires in which way?
[05:54] <marseillai_> i've this mistake : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21714/
[05:54] <marseillai_> and automake1.9 and automake was in build-dep
[05:55] <marseillai_> any idea Riddell ?
[06:01] <Riddell> re-run  make -f Makefile.common
[06:01] <marseillai> in the source dir ?
[06:01] <Riddell> yes
[06:01] <marseillai> that cause no problem for inclusion in repo?
[06:02] <Riddell> can't say I care about it
[06:02] <Riddell> all the KDE packages do it
[06:02] <marseillai> oki
[06:18] <marseillai> Riddell: if you have time for a revu : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5221 if you don't no problem
[06:56] <yuriy> wow edubuntu's homepage is nice
[07:02] <nixternal> how about a patch to update to use the latest automake?
[07:02] <nixternal> nevermind that, wrong time, damn scroll up ;)
[07:03] <marseillai> nixternal: it was for my problem with kcontrol-autostart ?
[07:03] <nixternal> ya
[07:03] <nixternal> hehe
[07:03] <marseillai> lol
[07:03] <marseillai> thanks anyway
[07:03] <nixternal> did you get it fixed?
[07:04] <marseillai> but for the moment i only start to make package and patch
[07:04] <nixternal> groovy
[07:04] <marseillai> so i only make small modifications
[07:04] <marseillai> and this sort of patch are too hard
[07:04] <marseillai> but yes riddell told me how to solve it
[07:04] <marseillai> now i'm looking for a motu
[07:04] <marseillai> :)
[07:05] <marseillai> or may be i'll wait raphink because it's his package i've upgrade
[07:09] <nixternal> raphink will probably be afk for a bit. he and his new wife just got back to Paris this past week
[07:12] <marseillai> oki
[07:12] <marseillai> they continue their honey moon ?
[07:17] <nixternal> I believe they are just spending some time settling in
[07:18] <marseillai> ok
[07:18] <marseillai> so i'll make review my package by myself
[07:18] <marseillai> :)
[11:27] (lnxkde/#kubuntu-devel) Do I need to build a resticted modules packges for my running kernel, to get the nvidia driver from nviodia.com working?
[11:28] (Hobbsee/#kubuntu-devel) pass.
[11:28] (lnxkde/#kubuntu-devel) when I do modprobe nvidia I get a error that says FATAL : could not lounch nvidia install script
[11:28] (lnxkde/#kubuntu-devel) also that happends when startx
[11:28] <Hobbsee> i'd try #ubuntu for that
[11:29] <lnxkde> but the nvidia installation goes ok
[11:29] <lnxkde> ok
[11:31] <lnxkde> Hobbsee: :) so whats new? playing with KDE4?
[11:31] <Hobbsee> doing motu stuff, actually
[11:31] <Hobbsee> i havent looked at kde4 in a while
[11:32] <lnxkde> motu?
[11:32] <lnxkde> sound?
[11:32] <Hobbsee> motu == masters of the universe
[11:34] <lnxkde> :)
[11:34] <lnxkde> never heard of it
[11:35] <lnxkde> coz I use a customized kernel
[11:35] <lnxkde> :p
[11:35] <Tm_T> ajmitch: excitement perhaps