[12:16] <dacyso> hi
[12:16] <ubuntu> hello
[12:16] <ubuntu> saludos a todos
[12:16] <Ninina> Hello I'm preparing to install Kubuntu on my computer so I'm gonna take some space off my windows partition to do so, how much do you guys is a good amount(all is not exceptable =P)
[12:16] <ubuntu> algun hispano parlante por aqui?
[12:17] <dacyso> ninina : only for the system ?
[12:18] <dacyso> what's your configuration ?
[12:18] <Lilacor> ubuntu I think you're looking for #ubuntu-es
[12:18] <ZmAY> hi, i need some help
[12:19] <Lilacor> ZmAY: please ask the question
[12:19] <ZmAY> my frined bought lap top, it has linpus on, is there any way to instal kubuntu on it?
[12:19] <ZmAY> i tried with CD but it wont work
[12:19] <Lilacor> linpus? I'm not sure what that is
[12:19] <Ninina> dacyso: well for the entire kubuntu stuff...I'm shaving it off the XP partition, althought how to divide up that shaved up space is also something I was wondering
[12:20] <Lilacor> Ninina: what are you planning on doing with your Kubuntu system?
[12:20] <RobNyc> how do I install the nvidia drivers on kubuntu
[12:20] <RobNyc> Feisty
[12:20] <TheGateKeeper> Ninina: (k)ubuntu needs at least 5gb, I guess as much as you can aford to give it
[12:21] <ZmAY> Lilacor: http://www.linpus.com/xampp/modules/c-html/
[12:21] <ZmAY> some asian crap
[12:21] <Lilacor> ZmAY: sounds like a box from Fry's or something
[12:21] <ZmAY> :)
[12:22] <ZmAY> but the problem is, when i put in kubuntu live CD in, and i start to install it, it stops, frozes
[12:22] <Lilacor> ZmAY: what happens when you try to install using the DVD?
[12:22] <Ninina> Lilacor: well it's an experiment, I don't really want to use vista ever and XP will only last so long so I'm working on seeing if I can handle linux...I only have 120gb total disk space though
[12:22] <Lilacor> ZmAY: did you try to use the alternate install dVD?
[12:22] <ZmAY> nop
[12:22] <Lilacor> ZmAY: try that
[12:22] <ZmAY> dont have that option right now
[12:23] <lobster> Zmay did you check your cd for errors?
[12:23] <Lilacor> ZmAY: find the alternate install DVD, download it, burn it, and install from that
[12:23] <ZmAY> yes, it stops at.. just a minute
[12:23] <Lilacor> Ninina: how much is windows taking up right now?
[12:24] <ZmAY> i cant
[12:24] <Ninina> Lilacor:the partition is 120gb but after major cleaning I have it down about 60gb free space
[12:24] <ZmAY> rightr now i am using my old PC which hasnt got DVD burner
[12:24] <Lilacor> Ninina: that should be plenty enough for kubuntu
[12:25] <Ninina> Lilacor: if I use all the freespace I won't have any space to install stuff...
[12:25] <Lilacor> Ninina: install software for winxp?
[12:26] <ZmAY> Lilacor: i go to check CD, and it stops at "checking ./casper/filesystem/squashfs"
[12:26] <RobNyc> nobody knows how to install nvidia drivers on kubuntu feisty ?
[12:26] <zblach> i'm having some trouble getting firestarter to run. has anyone else had this issue?
[12:26] <Ninina> Lilacor: yes, I'm trying to hedge my bets sorta...I was thinking like 20 or maybe 30gb
[12:26] <RobNyc> !nvidia
[12:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:27] <Lilacor> Ninina: 30 is also plenty enough
[12:27] <Lilacor> Ninina: if you fill your kubuntu volume with movies and music files then that's not really my problem
[12:27] <semistud2354> im trying to extract a file...but it is in .7z
[12:28] <Lilacor> Ninina: but for basic system files and running the system it should be fine
[12:28] <semistud2354> anyone know a good program to se
[12:28] <Lilacor> semistud2354: that's 7-zip
[12:28] <semistud2354> use
[12:28] <semistud2354> yea
[12:28] <Lilacor> semistud2354: download and install 7-zip
[12:28] <semistud2354> isnt 7z and 7-zip the same
[12:28] <Lilacor> 7-zip is the name of the program
[12:29] <Lilacor> .7z is the format of the file
[12:29] <Ninina> Lilacor: my thing is I keep windows and when/if I go a month with little or no xp usage I'll clean out xp and give like 100gb to kubuntu or maybe even a whole new hdd, but It's not my primary OS yet, only a potentially primary
[12:29] <Lilacor> Ninina: it's fine - don't worry...you can expand the partition later with gparted at a later date if you wish
[12:30] <semistud2354> i put that in
[12:30] <semistud2354> 7-zip
[12:30] <semistud2354> im not sure which one
[12:30] <semistud2354> p7zip
[12:30] <Ninina> Lilacor: plus i'm not a movie person, I'm a video game person =P
[12:30] <semistud2354> and lzma
[12:31] <Lilacor> Ninina: regardless, I'm saying that 30 will be enough for you to get a feel for the system
[12:31] <RobNyc> so none of you using nvidia ?
[12:31] <semistud2354> they both say something about compression
[12:31] <Lilacor> RobNyc: I am using nvidia
[12:31] <Ninina> Lilacor: ok then that's what all use...is it ok to monoparition it or is that a bad idea?
[12:31] <semistud2354> nothing about extracting those types of files
[12:31] <RobNyc> Lilacor, did you install the nvidia drivers? because ubuntu is easier but id otn know in kubuntu
[12:32] <ZmAY> Lilacor: i go to instal Kubuntu. it checks all  the stuff, configuring some drivers, starting basic networking [ok] ... and then when it all checks it freezes
[12:32] <Lilacor> RobNyc: I'm about to find out. I haven't installed nvidia drivers yet. I'm installing from x64 kubuntu dvd right now
[12:32] <RobNyc> oh
[12:32] <Lilacor> Ninina: usually you want to separate your swap partition from your system partition
[12:33] <Lilacor> Ninina: unless you want your hdd to sound like it does in windoze...swapping and thrashing like mad
[12:33] <Ninina> Lilacor: ahh I didn't mean swap, I that much atleast =P...
[12:33] <Ninina> Lilacor: should swap be on a seperate drive?
[12:34] <Lilacor> Ninina: no, not necessarily
[12:34] <kubuntu67> Hi everyone. I've got a problem with my SATA DVD drive. I can't get it to play dvds.
[12:34] <Lilacor> rebooting....
[12:34] <Ninina> Lilacor: ok
[12:34] <Lilacor> hopefully I don't get funky stupid screen
[12:35] <ZmAY> anyone had problems with installing Kubuntu on laptop
[12:37] <dbell> AmAY: depends on the laptop, I've got an old laptop 266mhz and 64MB of ram. No way Kubuntu is going on it.
[12:38] <ZmAY> nop, i have 512MB ram, 2.0 GHz
[12:38] <ZmAY> it freezes after checking basic stuff
[12:39] <Ninina> anyone know what a good swap size is for a system with 1gb of ram?
[12:39] <dbell> what wireless chipset? that's usually the next issue.
[12:39] <dbell> The laptop is freezing during install?
[12:39] <ZmAY> yes
[12:39] <tijn> heya ppl
[12:39] <dbell> Is there a restore partition?
[12:40] <dbell> for windows?
[12:40] <ZmAY> nop
[12:40] <dbell> Hmm, have you checked the cd?
[12:40] <ZmAY> i did, no problems
[12:41] <maxius> i had some problems connecting wap encrypted wireless routers whit kubuntu 6.10, it froze all the time, when i connected, had no problem whit ubuntu though, anyone know if this wireless thing has been betther whit kubuntu 7.04?
[12:43] <dbell> ZmAY: I had a problem installing edubuntu on the kids computer last night. I was freezing during install. The solution for what ever reason was to burn the CD iso onto a DVD. Installed without problem.
[12:43] <Rictoo> I tried printing something with lpr
[12:43] <Rictoo> but it didn't exactly work, and after that was done, my printer began printing hundreds of blank pages
[12:43] <Rictoo> how the FUCK do I stop it? -.-'
[12:44] <dbell> No logical reason for it to work, but might be worth a shot if you can
[12:44] <ZmAY> tnx, but cant do it right now
[12:44] <Rictoo> Anyone help?
[12:44] <Rictoo> I tried printing something with lpr
[12:44] <Rictoo> but it didn't exactly work, and after that was done, my printer began printing hundreds of blank pages
[12:44] <Rictoo> HOw do I stop it? :\
[12:45] <dbell> have you tried googling the model of the laptop for a solution?
[12:45] <dbell> Rictoo: hit the power button on the printer?
[12:46] <Rictoo> no
[12:46] <Rictoo> because when I turn it back on, it continues
[12:46] <Rictoo> So like, I'm screwed :)
[12:46] <IE> hi... scenario... clean install windows then clean install (k)ubuntu...then clean install mandriva...does not find (k)ubuntu on installing grub..decide to delete mandriva ... question... how do i reinstall grub to pick up windows and (k)ubuntu?
[12:46] <_6StringKng_> uh yeah ntfs-3g didn't mount my drives on startup fo rosme reason
[12:47] <SlimeyPete> did you run the configuration wizard?
[12:48] <_6StringKng_> well I added the lines to my fstab, and it worked fine, but for some reason it wont anymore
[12:48] <_6StringKng_> and hwne I go to system>NTFS configuration tool it wont work anyways
[12:49] <dbell> ZmAY: just finished reading back over your problem, if the check CD is freezing on squashfs there is probably a problem with the CD. Squashfs is the filesystem for the CD, not a good place for an error.
[12:50] <FFForever> Hi
[12:51] <ZmAY> dbell: i waited for a while, it goes on, no problem then with that error
[12:51] <_6StringKng_> k, anyone know why ntfs-3g decided not to mount my other hdds?
[12:51] <main2> guys, i have a big problem with kubu feisty
[12:51] <FFForever> i used amarok to sort my music and now in my stuff folder there are gray folders and i was just wondering why
[12:51] <ZmAY> dbrll: it freezes after i press install, then checks the basic networking and other stuff, and then i get only screen with kubuntu logo and thats it
[12:52] <_6StringKng_> I added this /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0  worked fine but today it wont, lol
[12:52] <dbell> FFForever: again, try #amarok
[12:52] <main2> when i try to reboot from kde...........
[12:52] <main2> the screen goes blank, and it doesnt boot
[12:52] <main2> :'(    i cant find anything in dmesg
[12:53] <main2> any suggestions?
[12:54] <ZmAY> is there any way to install kubuntu from konsole?
[12:56] <dbell> from what distro? I think from Ubuntu this would do it
[12:56] <dbell> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <ZmAY> i have fuckin preinstalation of linpus
[12:58] <ZmAY> i mean my friend.. asian crap
[12:59] <Chousuke> linpus just sounds wrong
[12:59] <Chousuke> ... mostly the pus part
[12:59] <Chousuke> One wonders what they were thinking when they decided on that name.
[01:00] <raylu> what name?
[01:00] <Chousuke> Linpus
[01:00] <ZmAY> http://www.linpus.com/xampp/modules/cjaycontent/
[01:00] <ZmAY> u have it here
[01:01] <main2> limping linpus? :')
[01:01] <ZmAY> crap
[01:01] <main2> guys, if no partitions are marked 'active' (also called 'boot')
[01:01] <main2> what partition is booted then, the first?
[01:03] <just-this-time> \o
[01:03] <cpk1> my sound died =(
[01:03] <just-this-time> where can I find logging of last adept install session just finished ?
[01:04] <just-this-time> RIP
[01:07] <just-this-time> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting cpk1
[01:07] <cpk1> just-this-time: I already read through that
[01:08] <just-this-time> and
[01:08] <cpk1> nothing of help to me
[01:09] <dbell> cpk1: any chance you have two sound devices? I had an issue with kubuntu alternating between the onboard sound and my sound card with every boot.
[01:09] <cpk1> I dont, it literally just now died
[01:09] <cpk1> I killed amarokapp and then sound stopped after that
[01:10] <intelikey> i have a problem, there is nothing wrong with my computer.
[01:10] <intelikey> should i upgrade to fix this problem ?
[01:11] <cpk1> I dont think anything is tying up my sound either...
[01:12] <sara> hello
[01:13] <intelikey> sara
[01:13] <sara> anyone know how i can open an ace. file in ubuntu?
[01:14] <Ninina> anyone know how much swap space kubuntu needs if one has 1gb of ram?
[01:14] <intelikey> none
[01:14] <sara> do i ned o install a wondows program trhough wine to open an ace. file?
[01:15] <Ninina> none?
[01:15] <dacyso> 2Gb
[01:15] <dacyso> ninina
[01:15] <dacyso> swap=2*ram
[01:15] <intelikey> Ninina exactly     NONE  is "needed"
[01:15] <iarwain_> sara: try 'unace' and 'unace-nonfree'
[01:16] <Ninina> intelikey: ... well how much do I "WANT" then
[01:16] <just-this-time> I LOVE YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR INTELIKEY
[01:17] <just-this-time> sorry capitals
[01:17] <intelikey> Ninina if you plan on using suspend to disk.  then you need sufficent swap space to cache all the ram to disk.    if you don't plan on suspending to disk then you will never know that you have swap or that you don't as case may be.
[01:17] <sara> it says i have unace installed...is it a commandline program?
[01:17] <ZmAY> how can i format linux from konsole?
[01:18] <Ninina> intelikey: if I'm not using a laptop is there any use for suppend to disk?
[01:18] <iarwain_> sara: could very well be. I found that 'xarchiver' is a GTK front-end ( = graphical )
[01:18] <intelikey> just-this-time thank you.   but as far as swap is concerned, it's not humour.   i run kubuntu on a p1 with 64m ram and no swap.  so tell me how much someone with a gig of ram needs ?
[01:19] <intelikey> Ninina no there isn't.
[01:19] <cpk1> anyone have any advice for me on my dead sound?
[01:19] <Ninina> intelikey: well I plan to use ran intensive programs like beryl and video games
[01:19] <intelikey> Ninina if you "want" a swap partition.  make it a little bigger than the ram and you'll be fine.
[01:21] <intelikey> cpk1 if you can catch crimsun around,  he's A #1 pro sound man.
[01:21] <ZmAY> is there a way to format linux from hard drive?
[01:21] <Ninina> intelikey: I just don't want "suprizes" when I try to run a program and it crashes because of lack of memory
[01:21] <intelikey> Ninina yeah
[01:21] <iarwain_> ZmAY: why would you want to format linux whilst running it?
[01:21] <just-this-time> apparently intelikey you dont use firefox ,
[01:21] <ZmAY> cause i have this stupid linpus on it
[01:22] <Ninina> intelikey: so I should have like 1.5gb or something?
[01:22] <iarwain_> ZmAY: so you want to format your drive, _whilst_ running linux? Because linux is on it?
[01:22] <Ryiel> Hey guys, can someone help me to put grub back? Cause i installed win and it killed grub...
[01:22] <ZmAY> yes, i want to delete all
[01:22] <Ryiel> !grub
[01:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:22] <intelikey> just-this-time hehhe i like your sense of humour too :)
[01:22] <iarwain_> ZmAY: throw it in a HCL-bath ;o
[01:23] <iarwain_> ZmAY: j/k, try to install windows over it
[01:23] <iarwain_> ZmAY: or format it via windows?
[01:23] <intelikey> ZmAY if you are giving linux it's walking pappers  then do it from windows.
[01:24] <ZmAY> i know that, but i was wondering if there is some other way, cause i dont have any windows cd right now
[01:24] <intelikey> ZmAY aren't you the same troll that was asking the same questions the last few days ?
[01:24] <iarwain_> ZmAY: just so you know, if you want to format a drive whilst using it, it ain't gonna work
[01:25] <intelikey> or is this an epidemic of trollism ?
[01:25] <hakaisou> wow... that's cool
[01:25] <iarwain_> intelikey: i have my club right next to me ^^
[01:25] <hakaisou> i didn't realize that there was a hotkey for increasing and decreasing resolution
[01:25] <ZmAY> intlikey: no
[01:25] <iarwain_> hakaisou: could you enlighten us? (willing to try)
[01:26] <hakaisou> hold on lemme verify
[01:26] <iarwain_> ZmAY: a little tip: DONT FORMAT IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO BOOT WITH
[01:26] <iarwain_> sorry for caps ;$
[01:26] <ZmAY> sorry for beinf rooky:)
[01:26] <iarwain_> ZmAY: otherwise you'd have an utterly useless pc
[01:26] <hakaisou> ctrl alt numplus decreases resolution one step (as defined by your settings)
[01:26] <intelikey> ZmAY well ok.  answer me one question and i'll try to help you with that.    what does it matter if the disk space is blank or has an os you don't use on it, until you are ready to do something with the extra disk space ?
[01:27] <hakaisou> and ctrl alt numminus will increase by one step
[01:27] <iarwain_> ZmAY: np, but why would you like to remove linux?
[01:27] <ZmAY> i have kubuntu live CD but it stopps during installation
[01:27] <iarwain_> hakaisou: crap, now i need to find a - sign (i'm on the laptop)
[01:28] <iarwain_> hakaisou: found it xD quite fun actually =)
[01:28] <ZmAY> i would like to remove preinstalled version of "linux" called linpus, thats all, and that everything that is on HD
[01:28] <iarwain_> ZmAY: well, i don't know much about installing, but could you be bothered to try with the alternate cd?
[01:28] <iarwain_> ZmAY: what exactly is 'linpus'?
[01:28] <hakaisou> irwain_:  yea, i love finding new functions in linux randomly
[01:29] <iarwain_> hakaisou: try Ctrl-Alt-F3 xD (j/k)
[01:29] <ZmAY> iarwain_: itc some asian crap, "linux" without GUI
[01:29] <iarwain_> ZmAY: crap ;o
[01:29] <hakaisou> what is that?
[01:29] <dbell> ZmAY: if you have access to a CD burner try gparted to reformat the drive.
[01:29] <hakaisou> ctrl alt f3?
[01:29] <iarwain_> ZmAY: are you able to download the alternate cd of ubuntu? (less room for error's)
[01:30] <iarwain_> hakaisou: well, you can try (it's nothing dangerous) just know that you'll be back with Ctrl-Alt-F7 =)
[01:30] <iarwain_> hakaisou: try all of the Fx's =)
[01:30] <ZmAY> i am, but the problem is that i only have CDs which are not compatible with my CD burner:p
[01:30] <intelikey> ZmAY ok.   be advised that this command will leave the computer without any data of any kind on the hd !!!       cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda     <<<< where hda is the drive you want to blank.    that's a good tool for clearing entire hard drives prior to an initial installation.
[01:30] <iarwain_> hakaisou: and don't freak out xD
[01:31] <iarwain_> ZmAY: and you don't have access to another pc with cd-burner?
[01:31] <raylu> intelikey, if it's already installed
[01:31] <ZmAY> nop
[01:31] <raylu> you may as well have ZmAY install (k)ubuntu over it
[01:31] <intelikey> ZmAY it can also be used on partitions.
[01:32] <olabil> Hello :)
[01:32] <iarwain_> hiya olabil
[01:32] <olabil> Having some problems with installing Nvidia drivers here.. running kubuntu 7.04, anyone free to help?
[01:32] <iarwain_> olabil: tell us your problems xD (don't ask to ask =) )
[01:33] <intelikey> raylu he asked a question.  i was answering it.     i already questioned his logic and motive,  also left the warning about the affect.       but don't tell me not to answer questions.
[01:34] <olabil> hehe
[01:34] <just-this-time> !nvidia olabil
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia olabil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <iarwain_> !nvidia | olabil
[01:35] <olabil> well, the thing is, i've installed the latest driver from nvidia.com, its installed and everything, but when i enter nvidia-settings, my resolutions and hertz are weird
[01:35] <ubotu> olabil: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:35] <just-this-time> !nvidia  | olabil
[01:35] <iarwain_> just-this-time: xD
[01:35] <intelikey> just-this-time missing   pipe or redirrect
[01:35] <iarwain_> olabil: what do you mean, weird?
[01:35] <olabil> if i edit xonf.org, and manually remove all other choices than 1280x1024, and restart X, it still boots up in 1024x768, it simply doesnt match xorg.conf
[01:36] <iarwain_> olabil: i hope you mean xorg.conf?
[01:36] <olabil> lol yes, typo, sorry :)
[01:36] <just-this-time> olabil learn to use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <just-this-time> also sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange olabil
[01:37] <iarwain_> just-this-time: i'd add a -phigh there.. or am i wrong? (not realy sure)
[01:38] <intelikey> iarwain_ i'd add a -plow  :)
[01:39] <iarwain_> iarwain_: what's the difference actually?
[01:39] <intelikey> iarwain_ high is if you don't want it to ask many questions   low if you want it to ask them all
[01:40] <intelikey> -p = priority
[01:40] <iarwain_> intelikey: cheers, i know now xD
[01:45] <Coldwar55> Dam, Kubuntu is so nice ^^  Much more stable than Windows.  I have never had a problem with it yet
[01:46] <just-this-time> anyone used upfrading to feisty from DVDand not over the internet ?
[01:46] <olabil> ran through sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, gonna reboot, wish me luck
[01:46] <intelikey> no reboot
[01:46] <just-this-time> good luck olabil
[01:48] <just-this-time> olabil will nextlearn to ctrtrl alt F1 and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop start restart
[01:49] <just-this-time> windows users cannot at first get the flexibility existing on system
[01:50] <intelikey> "windows users"    they cease to be windows users when they boot to linux,  while linux is running they are linux users.   :)
[01:52] <aenna> hi!
[01:54] <intelikey> aenna
[01:58] <olabil> this is weird.. the nvidia driver is installed, and running, but it's not allowing me to change resolution's above 1280x800... anyone know which file i can edit to manually specify the resolution? xorg.conf was not it
[01:58] <aenna> i vot a problem with my kde
[01:58] <tin> what's not allowing you change the screen size?
[01:59] <aenna> i deleted a shortcut from /usr/share/autostart
[01:59] <aenna> because of beryl
[01:59] <olabil> if i go via system settings, and into monitor and display, it doesnt list "normal" resolutions.. max is 1280x800, in 60hz. I want 1280x1024@100hz
[01:59] <aenna> something about"beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0.0"
[02:00] <aenna> i solved taht problem but now i dont have wallpaper
[02:00] <intelikey> aenna hehhe  from /usr/   that's system stuff,    good way to break things.
[02:00] <aenna> kcontrol isnt usssefull at all
[02:00] <aenna> hey i was desesperated it was my 4th format
[02:01] <intelikey> sounds more like a beryl than a kde question.
[02:01] <aenna> i suffered random freezes and modifiing init.d files solved my problems
[02:01] <tin> i think that System Settings uses the xorg.conf to choose what options to show you
[02:02] <aenna> so i thought that probably i could detect whats up taking out of star some apps
[02:02] <tin> try the Hardware tab of Monitors & Displays
[02:02] <olabil> if i look in the "Hardware" tab of Monitor & Display, it lists my gfx card as a generic VESA one, and it says Custom 1 for monitor..  Itdoesnt remember when I manually choose correct monitor)
[02:02] <tin> go to admin mode and choose a different monitor, one that matches yours closely
[02:02] <tin> oh
[02:02] <aenna> in my /usr/share/autostart/ there is
[02:02] <aenna> i have panel restore_kmix_volumes guidance-powe.. khotkeys kilpper knetwork..konky_preload korgac
[02:02] <aenna> what is missing to me?
[02:03] <tin> dunno why it wouldn't remember
[02:03] <aenna> i dont remember the exact name
[02:03] <olabil> Tin: I dont want to spam the channel with copy/pastes from my xonf.org, may we go privatE?
[02:03] <aenna> its something of kde desktop or similar
[02:03] <tin> it wouldn't help
[02:04] <olabil> hehe ok
[02:04] <intelikey> aenna hmmm you need someone to   ls -l /usr/share/autostart/    and post the list for you.
[02:04] <tin> all i can suggest is maybe using 'xorgcfg' from Konsole
[02:04] <tin> it's not the easiest to use app, but it may help
[02:04] <intelikey> aenna i don't have that dir so i'm of no use there.
[02:04] <aenna> ok thankyou anyway
[02:04] <olabil> if i could just find the file that specifies my current resolution...
 Tin: I dont want to spam the channel with copy/pastes from my xonf.org << once for all tis xorg.cong
[02:05] <aenna> i was just going to say the samething about ls
[02:05] <aenna> XD
[02:05] <intelikey> tin can you post the content of your  /usr/share/autostart/  for aenna
[02:05] <olabil> grep 1280x800 something?
[02:05] <just-this-time> look x.org
[02:05] <olabil> damn, i hate that typo, sorry
[02:07] <intelikey> olabil there probably isn't a file that specifies your "current resolution"   but ls /etc/X11  and look for nvidia something
[02:07] <aenna> by the way i dont kow why but powernowd causes some random crashes on my pentium 4
[02:07] <hyperactivecrond> how does one install ndiswrapper in kubuntu 7.04
[02:07] <hyperactivecrond> oh and before you respond
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> the wireless connection is my only connection to the internet.
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> and bcm43xx doesnt work. it never has
[02:08] <intelikey> victor you might check the bug reports or the wiki.   there maybe pertanant info there
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> i tried compiling an older version but it died
[02:08] <intelikey> aenna ^
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> that'd be 1.34 so it's probably just too old
[02:09] <aenna> ok
[02:09] <aenna> ill report
[02:09] <aenna> on launchpad?
[02:09] <hyperactivecrond> i should be able to just download the 1.44 source and compile, right?
[02:10] <intelikey> hyperactivecrond yeah.
[02:10] <intelikey> hyperactivecrond have build-essential installed ?
[02:10] <hyperactivecrond> intelikey, isnt it installed by default in 7.04?
[02:11] <intelikey> !b-e | hyperactivecrond
[02:11] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:11] <hyperactivecrond> it seems to run make fine it's just too old of a version
[02:11] <intelikey> make is too old ?
[02:11] <hyperactivecrond> ndiswrapper source ***
[02:11] <intelikey> oh
[02:11] <hyperactivecrond> gcc g++ etc seem to work
[02:12] <intelikey> well you should be able to build the latest source there
[02:12] <intelikey> operative word 'should' ....  ;/
[02:13] <olabil> Well, i figured it out
[02:13] <olabil> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:13] <olabil> :)
[02:14] <olabil> sux forgetting basics
[02:14] <intelikey> :)
[02:14] <intelikey> sorry.  when you said nvidia was working propperly, i assumed you had already done that.
[02:16] <premier__> should I be getting more than 8MB/s from a usb 2.0 port when tranferring files from an external to internal hard drive?
[02:21] <intelikey> premier__ well the limit is higher but that's safe.
[02:23] <n8bounds> hey guys
[02:23] <intelikey> hay
[02:24] <n8bounds> for there being so many people in this channel, its pretty quiet
[02:24] <n8bounds> :)
[02:24] <intelikey> yep
[02:25] <n8bounds> r u running the show here?
[02:25] <aenna> someone can paste me what ls /usr/share/autostart/ drops please
[02:25] <n8bounds> I got:
[02:25] <n8bounds> adept_notifier_auto.desktop     klipper.desktop
[02:26] <n8bounds> guidance-power-manager.desktop  knetworkmanager.desktop
[02:26] <n8bounds> kab2kabc.desktop                konqy_preload.desktop
[02:26] <n8bounds> kbluepin.autostart.desktop      korgac.desktop
[02:26] <n8bounds> kbluetoothd.autostart.desktop   oooqs2.desktop
[02:26] <n8bounds> kdesktop.desktop                panel.desktop
[02:26] <n8bounds> khotkeys.desktop                restore_kmix_volumes.desktop
[02:26] <ZmAY> when i try to install it from liveCD it freezes, does anybody have the same problem? i tried several different original CDs, so its not a CD problem
[02:26] <n8bounds> can we also rule out your optical drive somehow?
[02:26] <aenna> thankyou
[02:26] <n8bounds> np
[02:27] <bubu1uk> ZmAY: u should specific when it freezes... what kinda of problem u might have
[02:27] <n8bounds> ZmAY, have u tried the alternate install cd?
[02:27] <premier__> I can't change the colors for the menu bar text on my computer.  So, if I want a black interface, the menu bar text stays black and I cannot see it
[02:27] <ZmAY> i run it, it checks the basic networking... and other stuff, then it shows only kubuntu logo and thats it
[02:28] <n8bounds> ZmAY, so you never even get to the live cd desktop?
[02:29] <intelikey> premier__ beryl ?
[02:29] <premier__> intelikey: nope
[02:29] <ZmAY> nop
[02:29] <n8bounds> give the alternate install cd a try
[02:29] <n8bounds> or if ur using the dvd
[02:29] <intelikey> premier__ and you can't change the colour of kicker ?
[02:29] <n8bounds> select "Install in text mode"
[02:29] <intelikey> oh just the text.
[02:30] <ZmAY> dont have DVD option right now
[02:30] <n8bounds> kewl
[02:30] <n8bounds> the alt. install cd is the same thing anyway
[02:30] <premier__> intelikey: not the kicker, the menu bar
[02:30] <ZmAY> yes
[02:30] <premier__> like, where is says "file edit help"
[02:31] <intelikey> premier__ hmmm that's almost worth installing kde just investigate
[02:31] <david2_> anyon e use partimage?
[02:31] <n8bounds> premier__, if you go to system settings > appearance > colors, and select the Window Text widget color
[02:31] <n8bounds> you can change it towhatever you want
[02:32] <premier__> n8bounds: no effect
[02:32] <n8bounds> david2_ yes I do
[02:32] <david2_> Does it work?
[02:32] <premier__> n8bounds: it just ignores those settings
[02:32] <n8bounds> premier, try re-logging on?
[02:32] <premier__> intelikey: apparently this isn't something that just happens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/39400
[02:32] <n8bounds> david2, on ext3 yes
[02:32] <premier__> no, let me try that
[02:32] <intelikey> premier__ in kcontrol look&feel colour there is an option    as i recall
[02:32] <david2_> Have you had any problems restoring
[02:32] <n8bounds> david2, fat32 no problem
[02:32] <n8bounds> ntfs is a crapshoot
[02:33] <n8bounds> try to defrag twice before partimaging an ntfs volume
[02:33] <david2_> reseiserfs?
[02:33] <n8bounds> I never tried reseiserfs
[02:33] <n8bounds> xfs fails for me too
[02:33] <david2_> great
[02:33] <n8bounds> btw
[02:33] <david2_> Linux Journal speak of it
[02:33] <david2_> almost convincing that it'll work
[02:33] <n8bounds> I gave up on the exotic filesystems, ext3 does everything I need
[02:34] <david2_> What's the difference between using dd and that?
[02:34] <n8bounds> for one, you get a curses based interface
[02:34] <david2_> slang
[02:34] <n8bounds> and it does most of the thinking for you
[02:34] <david2_> but I get the point
[02:35] <n8bounds> right, sorry
[02:35] <Coldwar55> When an embedded movie is playing in FireFox using Mplayer, how come the bottom of the box get's cut off?
[02:35] <david2_> You use the static binary?
[02:35] <n8bounds> it also can break up ur output files into certain sizes for you
[02:35] <n8bounds> yeah, apt-get install partimage
[02:35] <n8bounds> but honestly
[02:35] <david2_> Yeah but you can use the split command to do that
[02:35] <n8bounds> I use the one on the "sysresccd" more often
[02:36] <david2_> I read about it
[02:36] <intelikey> david2_ or ddd
[02:36] <david2_> Just scared
[02:36] <n8bounds> ah
[02:36] <intelikey> dd
[02:36] <n8bounds> well heres another plus for partimage
[02:36] <david2_> tarring with permissions saved is a pain in the ass
[02:36] <david2_> I just want to back up everything
[02:36] <n8bounds> if it screws up, you will prolly know before you have to try and restore from it
[02:36] <n8bounds> it has good error handling
[02:37] <david2_> and it works
[02:37] <david2_> quickly
[02:37] <david2_> well quick as possible
[02:37] <n8bounds> yeah, I like it
[02:37] <n8bounds> I use it to image pcs at work
[02:37] <n8bounds> and to backup my stuff at home
[02:37] <david2_> preferably on a network drive
[02:38] <david2_> I'll tgry it on a computer that has the least to loose
[02:38] <n8bounds> u can't partimage a partition that is mounted tho
[02:38] <david2_> and see what happens
[02:38] <n8bounds> if that matters to u
[02:38] <david2_> Why would I want to do that?
[02:38] <david2_> make no sense
[02:38] <david2_> You write the backup to a mounted drive
[02:39] <premier_> hello, I rebooted, no effect
[02:39] <n8bounds> if u could, u wouldn't have to reboot into a live cd or something to partimage your root partition
[02:39] <n8bounds> sorry dude, check out kde-look.org, those guys do that kind of stuff more
[02:39] <n8bounds> maybe
[02:39] <gamaliel_> hola
[02:40] <n8bounds> hola
[02:40] <david2_> no hablos Spanish
[02:40] <gamaliel_> es la primera vez que accedo aqui que es?
[02:40] <david2_> I am hungry though
[02:40] <intelikey> looks like i can use gnome cheeper than i can kde....  hmmm
[02:40] <n8bounds> uhhh....como?
[02:40] <n8bounds> cheepr, intelikey?
[02:41] <intelikey> yeah bandwidth
[02:41] <intelikey> i'm on dialup
[02:41] <intelikey> or should i say band"narrowness"
[02:41] <n8bounds> OH
[02:41] <gamaliel_> soy nuevo
[02:42] <gamaliel_> por aqui
[02:42] <n8bounds> where on earth are people still stuck on 56k modems? :P
[02:42] <gamaliel_> todos hablan ingles?
[02:42] <premier_> !es
[02:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:42] <intelikey> n8bounds down town USA
[02:43] <premier_> n8bounds: 56k > 0k
[02:43] <n8bounds> true
[02:43] <n8bounds> sorry, I'm new to irc and dont know how to PM
[02:43] <gamaliel_> gracias
[02:43] <premier_> are you using konversation?
[02:43] <intelikey> just 5 miles down the road i could get dsl modem   but that's the end of the wire.
[02:43] <n8bounds> yes
[02:44] <david2_> what about 64 bit machines?
[02:44] <premier_> try clicking the user name when they make a post
[02:44] <premier_> david2_: you mean pure awesome?
[02:44] <premier_> intelikey: what do you use?
[02:44] <intelikey> analog dialup
[02:44] <premier_> poor you
[02:44] <n8bounds> um, I'm not "registered" so I cant pm
[02:45] <premier_> lame
[02:45] <n8bounds> truely
[02:45] <n8bounds> how does one register?
[02:45] <premier_> i don't remember
[02:45] <n8bounds> awesome
[02:45] <premier_> but I think you have to goto the server tab, and then send a message to NickServ
[02:45] <intelikey> n8bounds also almost all irc clients support dirrect messaging   /msg nickname message
[02:46] <n8bounds> I get this
[02:46] <n8bounds> when i try to /msg somedude text
[02:46] <n8bounds> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! (
[02:46] <intelikey> n8bounds you can test with ubotu   don't have to reg, for tha
[02:46] <intelikey> that
[02:46] <premier_> ubotu is fun!
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is fun! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <n8bounds> lol
[02:47] <premier_> ubotu everything
[02:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:47] <premier_> ubotu anything
[02:47] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[02:47] <intelikey> :)
[02:47] <n8bounds> ubotu what time is it?
[02:47] <intelikey> !botsnack
[02:47] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:47] <n8bounds> hmm
[02:47] <n8bounds> ubotu what is the meaning of life?
[02:47] <premier_> !ohmy
[02:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:47] <n8bounds> oh jeez
[02:48] <nalioth> !tell n8bounds about msg the bot
[02:48] <KaoticEvil> i know theres a command for it, but i cannot remember what it is... i need to reconfigure my xorg from a terminal
[02:48] <premier_> !microsoft
[02:48] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:48] <premier_> !equivalents
[02:48] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[02:48] <n8bounds> lol
[02:49] <muaddib> got an issue with flash all of a sudden, drop-down menus on www.newegg.com are being covered by the banner ad
[02:49] <intelikey> KaoticEvil sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <n8bounds> mine does the same thing
[02:49] <KaoticEvil> thank you, intelikey
[02:49] <n8bounds> might be a ff plugin screwin it up tho
[02:49] <n8bounds> do u use flashblock?
[02:49] <KaoticEvil> i was close.. i was doing dpkr xorg-reconfigure
[02:49] <muaddib> don't even know what flashblock is
[02:49] <KaoticEvil> intelikey: will that also work on the Live CD so i can get X working?
[02:49] <n8bounds> ok good
[02:50] <intelikey> yep
[02:50] <premier_> the website ubotu gave me is pretty old... they list netscape as the #1 web broweser and firefox as #5... konqueror doesn't even have an entry
[02:50] <KaoticEvil> awesome.. thanks again :) (i know youve helped me a bunch in the past too)
[02:51] <intelikey> KaoticEvil np/
[02:51] <korobase> Where can I find the xxxx package downloaded using apt-get install xxxx?
[02:51] <intelikey> korobase /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:52] <K-Ryan> Is there a command to show me running processes?
[02:52] <intelikey> korobase that's where all the frontends to dpkg store the dl's
[02:52] <K-Ryan> Like the equivalent of the Winblows ctrl+alt+delete process tab
[02:52] <intelikey> K-Ryan ps aux
[02:52] <KaoticEvil> K-Ryan: "ps aux" in a konsole
[02:52] <intelikey> K-Ryan top
[02:53] <intelikey> K-Ryan pstree
[02:53] <korobase> Ok.
[02:54] <intelikey> K-Ryan you said command.  the second question  "Like the equivalent of the Winblows ctrl+alt+delete process tab"    ctrl+alt+esc
[02:54] <KaoticEvil> intelikey: if i make changes to the xorg.conf on the live, will they "stick" after install?
[02:54] <K-Ryan> Not that
[02:54] <K-Ryan> I need to be able to identify and turn off stuff.
[02:54] <K-Ryan> Like right now Ark won't start up
[02:54] <korobase> I using ADSL to link the web source.It's very slow.I want download the kubuntu DVD image.Where can I find it?
[02:54] <intelikey> KaoticEvil it doesn't use that config.   but it will probably configure well enough to use.
[02:54] <K-Ryan> It kind of crashed, but the process lingers
[02:55] <korobase> !kubuntu DVD
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <intelikey> korobase ubuntu.com
[02:55] <premier_> K-Ryan: the gui way to do it is ctrl-esc
[02:55] <KaoticEvil> intelikey: well, here's the problem im having... my box has an onboard Intel graphics chipset. Fiesty wont boot with this card (the LiveCD to install)
[02:55] <ninina_> Hello all, I have some questions about setting up my video card and monitor.  I have a 1440x800 LCD and an Nvidia geforce FX 5600 and I was told some extra setup was needed
[02:55] <intelikey> !install > korobase
[02:55] <K-Ryan> premier_ not if it isn't on my screen, which it wasn't =P thanks though
[02:56] <korobase> !install
[02:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:56] <KaoticEvil> I added a Radeon 7000, but for some reason, xorg.conf still tries to use the disabled onboard
[02:56] <premier_> K-Ryan: another hot key you should learn is alt-ctrl-esc
[02:56] <K-Ryan> Oh I thought you said that
[02:56] <premier_> K-Ryan: what do you mean?
[02:56] <K-Ryan> What's ctrl+esc?
[02:56] <K-Ryan> I thought you said ctrl+alt+esc the first time
[02:56] <premier_> K-Ryan: that'll bring up the process table
[02:56] <K-Ryan> Ah
[02:57] <K-Ryan> Perfect
[02:57] <K-Ryan> Thanks
[02:57] <lobster> K-ryan still working on your sound issue?
[02:57] <premier_> K-Ryan: alt-ctrl-esc crashes all your progams and logs you out... it "restarts X"
[02:57] <K-Ryan> ninina_ so you went ahead and installed Kubuntu?
[02:57] <K-Ryan> lobster it's fixed
[02:57] <ninina_> K-Ryan: yesh
[02:57] <korobase> ctrl+alt+backspace also restart X.
[02:57] <lobster> premier_ no it doesn't, it is a kill switch and can kill a windowed process
[02:58] <premier_> oh, my mistake, I was thinking alt-ctrl-backspace
[02:58] <K-Ryan> ctrl+alt+esc turns your cursor to a skull for you to click on stuff with
[02:58] <premier_> alt-ctrl-backspace restarts X
[02:58] <intelikey> KaoticEvil yeah linux used to be real good at ignoring bios altogather,  it is being dumbed down to the point that it's bios dependant now days.  (which i dislike and disagree with)    but you should be able to reconfigure xorg on the live and on the installed  seeing that that's not a boot issue but an issue with starting the gui.   the two are not related.
[02:58] <K-Ryan> yeah ctrl+alt+backspace is the X restarter
[02:58] <premier_> instant death
[02:58] <K-Ryan> I wouldn't say death
[02:58] <korobase> Oh,My GOD.the Adept Installer crashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[02:58] <K-Ryan> It's a convinient shortcut
[02:59] <K-Ryan> !aptfix | korobase
[02:59] <premier_> yeah, its also death
[02:59] <ubotu> korobase: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:59] <K-Ryan> Death if you accidently hit it, but umm, 3 buttons?
[02:59] <premier_> it instantly kills anything it touches, therefore death
[02:59] <K-Ryan> All at the same time? Rare accident.
[02:59] <ninina_> anyone know anything about Nvidia cards or widescreen LCDs?
[02:59] <KaoticEvil> intelikey: actually, it wont boot at all with the onboard card, even when i enable it and move my monitor to the onboard's output
[02:59] <lobster> if you do it by mistake, do it again, it will go back to a cursor
[02:59] <K-Ryan> ninina_ I'm running an Nvidia so I'll try to help you out with that
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Widescreen LCD though, shouldn't be much different.
[03:00] <lobster> ninina_ some
[03:00] <korobase> !aptfix
[03:00] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:00] <K-Ryan> KDE Menu > System Settings > Monitor
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Change your res and refresh there if you'd like
[03:00] <K-Ryan> I'll get to the vid card in a second
[03:00] <K-Ryan> !nvidia
[03:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:00] <lobster> K-Ryan your monitor settings work with nvidia?  mines junk
[03:00] <K-Ryan> I don't need anything special
[03:01] <K-Ryan> I've got my nice 1280x1024 res
[03:01] <K-Ryan> That's all that really matters
[03:02] <hyperactivecrond> a few of you may remember me.. i've been around the block with ubuntu kubuntu and about 15 other distributions.
[03:02] <hyperactivecrond> i've recently switched (back) from opensuse 10.2
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Welcome back!
[03:02] <hyperactivecrond> the installer has improved with leaps and bounds
[03:02] <hyperactivecrond> however, i have one major gripe
[03:02] <K-Ryan> ninina_ I'm going to get you some steps in a second.
[03:03] <K-Ryan> What's wrong hyperactivecrond?
[03:03] <hyperactivecrond> ndiswraper is a royal PITA to install.
[03:03] <intelikey> KaoticEvil again i think you are confusing "wont boot" with "not displaying anything"   i could be wrong.     a linux system can boot and run without a monitor/graphics card/keyboard/mouse/or network interface.    any and all may be missing...    but i do understand the problem of a booted system that gives no output...   at any rate that's not really helping you.   so what do you need ?
[03:03] <hyperactivecrond> not for me but for the average new linux user, it's a pain.
[03:03] <hyperactivecrond> case: Joe installs ubuntu/kubuntu onto his laptop.
[03:03] <hyperactivecrond> his wireless card doesn't work with bcm43xx.
[03:03] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[03:03] <hyperactivecrond> so he looks around, like the typical neophyte won't and figures out he needs ndiswrapper.
[03:04] <ninina_> K-Ryan: Thank you, the webpage doesn't make alot of sense as it's using ubuntu's admin stuff (aka I don't have a System->Admin->Restricted Devices Manager
[03:04] <hyperactivecrond> he tries to install it and finds he needs an internet connection in the first place to install it!
[03:04] <korobase> How to send broadcast in LAN?
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Yeah that's part of it ninina_ but don't worry I'll get it.
[03:04] <ninina_> okies
[03:05] <hyperactivecrond> i had to go download source from ndiswrapper.sf.net
[03:05] <korobase> Does the linux have the net send command to send broadcast over the LAN?
[03:05] <hyperactivecrond> and of course tar -xzvf cd ndiswrapper-* make sudo make install worked
[03:05] <hyperactivecrond> but it's hard for new users
[03:05] <hyperactivecrond> korobase: it usually does automtically?
[03:05] <korobase> !broadcast
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Oh, ninina_ you are running Feisty correct?
[03:05] <intelikey> KaoticEvil i've seen a few dark boots,  not much fun trying to guess at what it does with your input by how much disk activity there is....   ;/
[03:05] <hyperactivecrond> korobase: what are you trying to do where you'd need this?
[03:05] <ninina_> K-Ryan: I have 1024x768 too, but my monitor is actually 1440x900 so it's very fuzzy...Yes I'm running Feisty
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broadcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <hyperactivecrond> korobase: it does it automatically
[03:06] <K-Ryan> ninina_ have you tried going into KDE Menu > System Settings > Monitor and Display?
[03:06] <korobase> I want send a broadcast message to another computer in LAN.
[03:07] <hyperactivecrond> korobase: what version of windows does the recipient have?
[03:07] <albert> Are the commands with apt enough to install and run any software in Kubuntu?
[03:08] <ninina_> K-Ryan: Yes I have to change the hardware to a 1440x900 flatpanel, but then I don't know if I need to change the image format to 16:9 rather then 4:3 and it also complains about untested hardware
[03:08] <intelikey> albert yes
[03:08] <korobase> XP
[03:08] <hyperactivecrond> korobase: smbclient -M message
[03:08] <hyperactivecrond> korobase: messenger is probably turned off so it won't work
[03:08] <hyperactivecrond> on the XP machine
[03:08] <albert> thanks. But how do I run the program I have just installed? Is it on the desktop? Because I cannot find it.
[03:08] <K-Ryan> You'll probably need to change the format
[03:08] <hyperactivecrond> korobase: sorry you need to do 'smbclient -M <computername> message'
[03:09] <tri> I have two panels, how do i change the size of the second panel?
[03:09] <KaoticEvil> well, that didnt help at all LOL
[03:09] <hyperactivecrond> remove the ''  and <>s
[03:09] <K-Ryan> The complaint about untested hardware though, have you still tried to go ahead with it?
[03:09] <intelikey> albert what did you install ?
[03:09] <albert> octave software, it is like MatLab in Windows.
[03:09] <ninina_> K-Ryan: not yet
[03:09] <intelikey> KaoticEvil yeah i saw the vanity in it...
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Try it
[03:09] <ninina_> K-Ryan: I'm about to right now...I'll be back in a few
[03:10] <tri> I have two panels, how do i change the size of the second panel?
[03:10] <KaoticEvil> intelikey: no, im not confusing the 2... i get display, but i also get a soft lockup on CPU#0
[03:10] <tri> like the height of the second bar
[03:10] <KaoticEvil> but *only* when i try to use the onboard video
[03:10] <intelikey> albert type  oct[tab]        where [tab]  means hit the tab key.
[03:11] <KaoticEvil> actually, i just got another softlockup in CPU#0.. while i was runnig the xorg reconfigure
[03:11] <intelikey> KaoticEvil oh lockup.   that's a non-booting issue!
[03:11] <DonMCN> Hello, can somebody help me with setting Windows as the default operating system to startup instead of Kubuntu?
[03:11] <korobase> what is the LOL mean?
[03:11] <albert> well. I typed oct[tab]  and it displayed octave. But this software is runing in shell, not in a graphic mode
[03:11] <KaoticEvil> lol i know
[03:11] <hyperactivecrond> DonMCN: can i private message you with instructions?
[03:12] <DonMCN> Yes please :)
[03:12] <intelikey> albert there is probably a switch.   man octave
[03:12] <K-Ryan> Okay ninina_ you're going to need to open up Adept.
[03:12] <K-Ryan> Or Synaptic, whichever you prefer.
[03:13] <tri> I have two panels, how do i change the size of the second panel? like resize the height
[03:13] <ninina_> K-Ryan: adept is open
[03:13] <K-Ryan> Search "Nvidia"
[03:13] <albert> Octave is a high-level language, primarily intended for numerical computations.  It provides a convenient command line interface for solving linear and nonlinear prob
[03:13] <albert>        lems numerically.
[03:14] <albert> Maybe it doesn't provide graphic mode?
[03:14] <intelikey> albert also there should be a new listing in the kmenu if you look.           try kbuildsycoco
[03:14] <K-Ryan> Now here's where it gets tricky.
[03:14] <intelikey> or how ever it's spelled
[03:14] <ninina_> K-Ryan: Ok
[03:14] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure if your card needs legacy.
[03:14] <DonMCN> !paste
[03:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:14] <K-Ryan> But I know you'll need nvidia-kernel-source
[03:15] <K-Ryan> The other package you will need is either nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:15] <K-Ryan> I'm going to try to figure out though, what was the name of your card?
[03:15] <ninina_> K-Ryan: Geforce FX 5600
[03:15] <intelikey> i wish my nvidia card was supported.
[03:15] <K-Ryan> Alright
[03:16] <K-Ryan> Alright, get nvidia-glx
[03:16] <ninina_> ok installing those
[03:16] <tri> sorry I have two panels, how do i change the size of the second panel? like resize the height. I'm trying to recover some of my desktop space that's getting taken over by these bars
[03:17] <K-Ryan> Can someone help tri? I feel bad that I can't help him and nobody else is...
[03:17] <korobase> ninina_:mine is Geforce GO 7300.And I remove all deb package then install the package downloaded form the nvidia site.I work well now.
[03:17] <albert> Octave is making me get crazy..
[03:17] <tri> k-ryan: thanks
[03:17] <intelikey> tri right click on it    and configure
[03:17] <K-Ryan> No problem tri
[03:17] <ninina_> K-Ryan: Installed
[03:18] <ninina_> korobase: I'd like to try the simple way first =p
[03:18] <tri> intelikey: I'm in config
[03:18] <K-Ryan> ninina_ okay, I don't remember doing much more than that so try restarting X and see if you get an Nvidia splash screen
[03:18] <korobase> I want check the LAN's speed.What command should I use?
[03:18] <K-Ryan> ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x
[03:18] <intelikey> the first tab has the options of which pannel you affect
[03:18] <intelikey> tri ^
[03:19] <tri> intelikey: I don't see tabs
[03:19] <intelikey> unless it's changed....   i'm still with 6.6
[03:19] <korobase> I using the kubuntu's source package.But It can't go to the 1280x800 res.
[03:19] <intelikey> tri they are on the left
[03:19] <tri> intelikey: i'm using feisty
[03:19] <korobase> I want check the LAN's speed.What command should I use?
[03:19] <intelikey> your other left
[03:19] <tri> intelikey: all i see is arrangement, hiding, menus, appearance, taskbar
[03:19] <korobase> Help me.Please.
[03:20] <intelikey> yes and the first has the selection for main or pannel 1
[03:20] <ninina_> K-Ryan: ok done, how do I know if it worked?
[03:20] <K-Ryan> Was there an Nvidia splash screen when X restarted?
[03:20] <K-Ryan> Before the login screen
[03:20] <ninina_> K-Ryan: no\
[03:20] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[03:20] <intelikey> tri see it ?
[03:20] <K-Ryan> What did I miss...
[03:21] <K-Ryan> ninina_ open up the terminal and type in lspci | grep -i
[03:21] <intelikey> xorg-nvidia-config enable
[03:21] <tri> intelikey: on the right?
[03:22] <tri> intelikey: i don't see anything that says "main" or "panel 1"
[03:22] <intelikey> tri yes
[03:22] <K-Ryan> That's what I missed intelikey?
[03:22] <intelikey> tri it's an options box  with a dropdown list
[03:22] <tri> intelikey: is it in the arrangement tab?
[03:22] <intelikey> K-Ryan just a guess
[03:22] <K-Ryan> ninina_ try that, xorg-nvidia-config enable
[03:23] <K-Ryan> Err
[03:23] <K-Ryan> Hold on a sec
[03:23] <ardchoille> !info synergy
[03:23] <tri> intelikey: anything i do in the config menu only affects the main panel
[03:23] <ubotu> synergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1460 kB
[03:23] <intelikey> tri was first tab when i used kde in dapper.   just look around i'm sure it's there somewhere.    you select the pannel you want to affect and do what you want to it then apply to test.
[03:24] <tri> intelikey: i'll poke around
[03:24] <intelikey> tri you'll have to select the other panel   that i'm sure of.
[03:24] <intelikey> maybe.
[03:25] <K-Ryan> ninina_: goto your terminal and type in kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:25] <K-Ryan> Once that window pops up press control+f
[03:25] <K-Ryan> enter in Section "Screen"
[03:26] <K-Ryan> intelikey what about nvidia-xconfig?
[03:27] <ninina_> K-Ryan: that is so wierd, I get no splash screen but I am using the nvidia driver
[03:27] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[03:27] <intelikey> yeah just looked    sudo nvidia-xconfig enable
[03:27] <K-Ryan> Have you tried anything that required the drivers out yet?
[03:27] <ninina_> K-Ryan: like what?
[03:28] <K-Ryan> Umm, well I use my drivers for games
[03:28] <K-Ryan> I don't know about you
[03:28] <K-Ryan> But try what intelikey said
[03:28] <K-Ryan> sudo nvidia-xconfig enable
[03:28] <albert> intelikey, thanks for help. It works.
[03:28] <mo0osah> any good download managers that can be integrated into konqueror or firefox?
[03:29] <intelikey> albert you bet
[03:30] <ninina_> K-Ryan: Already did that
[03:30] <K-Ryan> Oh okay
[03:30] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[03:30] <K-Ryan> I'm trying to think of how you can test it.
[03:30] <intelikey> glxgears
[03:30] <intelikey> ?
[03:30] <ninina_> K-Ryan: ok i'm going to take a shower
[03:30] <K-Ryan> Ah that's right
[03:31] <K-Ryan> ninina_ real quick in your terminal type in glxgears
[03:31] <K-Ryan> If that runs nice and smoothly, your drivers are setup correctly.
[03:31] <intelikey> /age K-Ryan
[03:31] <intelikey> /ver K-Ryan
[03:31] <intelikey> hmmm....
[03:31] <K-Ryan> ?
[03:31] <intelikey> nothing ...  :)
[03:31] <kinfule> Hello there
[03:31] <K-Ryan> Hi kinfule
[03:32] <K-Ryan> No really intelikey
[03:32] <ninina_> K-Ryan: failed GLX missing on displayt
[03:32] <K-Ryan> Then I must of missed something, you'll have to have someone else pickup where I left off
[03:32] <K-Ryan> Sorry =/
[03:32] <ninina_> K-Ryan: that's ok
[03:32] <kinfule> Could someone explain me how to make my yakuake have real transpareny? I google it but couldn't find a simple answer
[03:33] <intelikey> K-Ryan my 72 year old uncle said you can always tell what an old man i doing,  he's either trying to remember someones name (or a command name might apply) or looking for a restroom.
[03:33] <kinfule> !yakuake
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <intelikey> is doing ^
[03:33] <K-Ryan> Well that would be true except I'm 16
[03:34] <K-Ryan> Well that explains the /age, but /ver?
[03:34] <intelikey> that was the joke about   /age   or   /ver  you  :)
[03:34] <jmichaelx> kinfule: just poke around, there are several ways.... you can even set it to just take on konsole's settings
[03:34] <K-Ryan> I get /age but not /ver, no matter
[03:35] <kinfule> But I want real transparency, so that it shows the window behind and not the desktop background
[03:35] <intelikey> K-Ryan yes  /ver   check the version of   and the versioning system for ubuntu is  year.month    so it's like asking the birthday of
[03:35] <jmichaelx> kinfule: that is what i was talking about
[03:36] <K-Ryan> Oh, I get it
[03:36] <galaxygrrl> can anyone tell me the proper way to install the latest nvidia binary driver? Ubuntu Feisty has that restricted driver manager and works great but my attempts to install nvidia binary drivers + beryl are not working out
[03:36] <jmichaelx> kinfule: ok whoa, i see what you mean... i don't know how to do that
[03:38] <kinfule> Thats alright, I will continue searching
[03:38] <kinfule> Thanks :)
[03:38] <intelikey> will "open windows in the desktop" setting not achieve that kinfule ?
[03:39] <jmichaelx> kinfule: np... but if you would figure it out, i would love to know, too :-D
[03:39] <intelikey> or jmichaelx for that matter  ^
[03:39] <kinfule> maybe you can understant what this guy did to achieve it
[03:39] <kinfule> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135870
[03:39] <kinfule> open window in the desktop?
[03:39] <jmichaelx> intelikey: i will try that here in a bit
[03:40] <kinfule> (I want a partial trasnparency like 75%)
[03:40] <intelikey> kinfule yes it's a configuration option when you right click the desktop and configure it.
[03:40] <sparrw> spent an hour trying to figure out why my 4-head pci video card wasnt working.  only have 4 monitors so i leave head #4 disconnected to check on the onboard video...  guess where the primary vga output is going?  :)
[03:41] <intelikey> the onboard ?
[03:41] <sparrw> no, head #4, the one i didnt monitor
[03:41] <intelikey> ah man i loose that one...
[03:42] <kinfule> inte, I will look for that
[03:42] <kinfule> I click the checkbox
[03:42] <kinfule> now what should I do
[03:43] <intelikey> apply
[03:43] <galaxygrrl> anyone know a good doc for installing latest nvidia restricted driver in Kubuntu?
[03:43] <intelikey> see if it works...   i'm not sure it will do what you are wanting but it might
[03:43] <kinfule> yes, nothing changed
[03:44] <intelikey> kinfule will probably only apply to newly opened windows
[03:44] <intelikey> galaxygrrl the wiki is the only one i know
[03:44] <intelikey> !nv | galaxygrrl
[03:44] <ubotu> galaxygrrl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:45] <galaxygrrl> thx
[03:45] <kinfule> I still see no difference
[03:45] <intelikey> probably not much help at first glance but it has links on it
[03:45] <albert> Does anyone know how to use MatLab in Linux?????
[03:45] <albert> How to install MatLab in linux?
[03:45] <kinfule> jmichaelx, did you understood the link I gave you?
[03:45] <intelikey> kinfule ok.  sorry for the bumb steer.   just though it might do that.
[03:45] <K-Ryan> Anyone know if Stepmania works on Kubuntu?
[03:46] <ninina> galaxygrrl: I tried the wiki and I'm having problems as the wiki is for ubuntu not kubuntu, but if you figure it out tell me how
[03:47] <galaxygrrl> yeah same problem there is no Kubuntu guide and I've tried the glx and glx new modules
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hiya
[03:47] <ninina> me too
[03:47] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Hello
[03:50] <DaSkreech> !info stepmania
[03:50] <ubotu> Package stepmania does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:51] <K-Ryan> Is there a Kubuntu banner somewhere that I can post around?
[03:51] <K-Ryan> Forum signatures, etc.
[03:51] <intelikey> albert  freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/ books/handbook/linuxemu-matlab.html <<< daz about as close as i can get
[03:52] <albert> thanks a lot intelikey!
[03:52] <jmichaelx> sorry, kinfule, i was away. i do sort of get it... you would have to poke around in the konsole file he mentions and copy a few config lines from konsole over to yakuake... and then it sounds like you may not be able to set the opacity you want. not sure
[03:54] <jmichaelx> the PC i am using has a 100GB windows partition and a 60GB linux partition.... should i not be able to relatively safely be able to shrink the windows partition down to say 40GB and increase the linux partition to say 120GB? the windows partition has little on it.
[03:54] <sparrw> I have 4 displays.  4 monitors, 4 screens, 4 devices.  If I use just the first one, it works.  If I use just the fourth one, it works.  If I use either of the middle two then I get insufficient memory errors.  If I try to use all 4 then the first and fourth get initialized but only the fourth displays a desktop.  Help?
[03:55] <kinfule> Maybe Beryl will do
[03:55] <kinfule> Is beryl to much resource consuming?
[03:56] <pak9rabid> I have a quick question for anyone who's lookin for somethin to do
[03:56] <lnxkde> I need help compiling my own kernel
[03:56] <K-Ryan> jmichaelx: You should be able to, but make a backup just in case.
[03:56] <lnxkde> nice guide on how too in kubunutu
[03:56] <K-Ryan> pak9rabid: I'll try to help
[03:56] <pak9rabid> anyone know how to force a usb 2.0 device to use usb 1.1 mode instead?
[03:57] <jmichaelx> kinfule: my experience is yes... i would say you would net at least a 1.5 Ghz cpu for it to work smoothely, as well as at least a moderately decent video card
[03:57] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[03:57] <K-Ryan> !usb
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <pak9rabid> I have this gd LCM oled display on my asus G1 laptop that seems to be freaking out the ehci_hcd driver
[03:57] <K-Ryan> I got nothin'
[03:57] <pak9rabid> tons of usb resets in the dmesg logs
[03:57] <pak9rabid> nutz
[03:57] <pak9rabid> i don't know if it's supposed yet
[03:57] <pak9rabid> w/out the use of a patch
[03:57] <pak9rabid> and irealy don't feel like recompiling a kernel in ubuntu
[03:58] <jmichaelx> K-Ryan: ty, i think i am going to try it right now with a gparted live CD
[03:58] <pak9rabid> i came across something where someone said they forced it to use the uhci_hcd driver instead
[03:58] <DaSkreech> is there a made for Kubuntu sticker I can put on a laptop?
[03:58] <K-Ryan> Good luck jmichaelx
[03:59] <K-Ryan> DaSkreech way back when I first ordered Ubuntu CDs they sent me Ubuntu stickers.
[03:59] <intelikey> lnxkde install build-essentila   install the kernel source,   cd into the root dir of the kernel source tree,   run make xocnfig      or make menu-config
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Yeah I figured i could get Ubutnu stickers if I looked
[03:59] <phoenixbyrd> DaSkreech: http://www.system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64
[03:59] <K-Ryan> Well I mean that was back last year in October maybe
[03:59] <intelikey> s,xocnfig,xconfig,
[04:00] <K-Ryan> phoenixbyrd's got something there.
[04:00] <lnxkde> intelikey: first 2 done
[04:01] <ebees> Hi all. I'm seeking some help with a dilemma. My / space is saying it is 100% full out of 10G. /usr seems to be the culprit, but I'm not sure what to delete. Any assistance or advice would be greatly appreciated.
[04:01] <lnxkde> cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic ??
[04:01] <K-Ryan> ebees open up your terminal
[04:01] <K-Ryan> type in sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:02] <K-Ryan> That will get rid of uneeded packages, and that's a start.
[04:02] <ebees> hi K-Ryan. I'll do that now.
[04:02] <K-Ryan> And by uneeded I don't mean "stuff you don't use" but rather stuff that has no attachments to programs, stuff that might be left over from stuff you had but then got rid of.
[04:02] <phoenixbyrd> DaSkreech: if it must absolutely be kubuntu stickers, there's this http://www.cafepress.com/chanika
[04:03] <K-Ryan> It might not free much, but it got me 281MB freed, so it can be a bit.
[04:03] <ebees> hmmmm. sayd it's an invalid operation
[04:03] <K-Ryan> Err
[04:03] <K-Ryan> sudo autoremove
[04:03] <K-Ryan> No...
[04:03] <K-Ryan> Someone help me here =P
[04:03] <phoenixbyrd> think I might get some stickers, buttons, and cds from shipit and distribute them at work :D
[04:04] <K-Ryan> ebees are you sure it didn't work?
[04:04] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get autoremove did it for me
[04:04] <ebees> sorry. sudo autoremove didn't work either.
[04:04] <DaSkreech> phoenixbyrd: Sweet :)
[04:04] <ebees> try again
[04:05] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get autoremove is what worked for me.
[04:05] <K-Ryan> I just tested it to make sure.
[04:05] <intelikey> ebees     du -ch / | sort -r | less
[04:06] <DaSkreech> it's du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11 :)
[04:06] <ebees> tried du -ch / | sort -r | less
[04:07] <intelikey> DaSkreech summary ?   but yes the h is a bad idea.
[04:07] <intelikey> du -c / | sort -r | less
[04:07] <ebees> okay, that reads all the file no? telling me how big they are
[04:07] <intelikey> yep
[04:08] <intelikey> and the last posting ^ will show the largest first
[04:08] <lnxkde> intelikey: menuconfig dione
[04:08] <lnxkde> now?
[04:08] <ebees> says it's 9G ???
[04:08] <jmichaelx> this is off-topic, but.... is there any reason to keep the little 500 MB partition that dell always has on it's PCs?? i have never known what this was for
[04:08] <phoenixbyrd> heh, I was gunna suggest installing kleanSweep
[04:08] <intelikey> lnxkde make && make install
[04:08] <ebees> last first... okay, I'll try that
[04:09] <ebees> du -c / | sort -r | less
[04:09] <ebees> will try that now
[04:09] <surgy> hallo
[04:09] <K-Ryan> Hi there surgy
[04:09] <lnxkde> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[04:09] <lnxkde> make: *** [init]  Error 2
[04:09] <lnxkde> lnxkde@lnxkde-desktop:/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic$
[04:09] <surgy> K-Ryan: hi!
[04:10] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, it's a rescue partion that you boot with the dell rescue disk...comman practice these days without having to give you an actual disc with windows on it
[04:10] <ebees> 'fraid it disappears off the terminal screen and I can't scroll back
[04:10] <intelikey> lnxkde reconfigure it.   something you didn't do correctly
[04:10] <DaSkreech> ebees: It's piped to less
[04:11] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: in other words.... it's gone :-D
[04:11] <DaSkreech> ebees: press the down arrow to scroll through
[04:11] <ebees> doh!
[04:11] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: ty
[04:11] <lnxkde> intelikey: ok
[04:11] <ebees> doing now
[04:11] <BluesKaj> np jmichaelx, mine's gone too
[04:11] <surgy> is there a "carputer" windows manager for ubuntu?
[04:12] <intelikey> i need to left for a few.  so i'm went.
[04:12] <K-Ryan> I'm looking through cafe press at Linux stuff, thanks phoenixbyrd, see what you got me hooked on? =P
[04:12] <K-Ryan> I just found a quote "Ignorance is bliss. No wonder so many people are happy with Windows!"
[04:12] <phoenixbyrd> I just wish it were mine
[04:13] <K-Ryan> I don't have money to buy anything *shrug*
[04:14] <K-Ryan> "When will Microsoft make something that doesn't suck? When they start making vacuum cleaners!"
[04:14] <K-Ryan> "In a world without fences, who needs Gates?"
[04:14] <DaSkreech> surgy: carputer?
[04:16] <ubuntu> Hey
[04:16] <ubuntu> need mad help
[04:16] <K-Ryan> Hi
[04:16] <ubuntu> with grub
[04:16] <DaSkreech> I'm sorry
[04:17] <ubuntu> Error 21
[04:17] <DaSkreech>  I'm pretty calm right now.. can't help with that
[04:17] <DaSkreech> !grub
[04:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:17] <K-Ryan> Have you tried google?
[04:17] <K-Ryan> That's what solved my GRUB error actually
[04:17] <K-Ryan> DaSkreech: heheh
[04:17] <ubuntu> just want to uninstall Ubuntu and go back to windows
[04:17] <K-Ryan> What?
[04:17] <surgy> DaSkreech: yeah a computer made in a car
[04:17] <K-Ryan> Why?
[04:18] <phoenixbyrd> ubuntu, let's not go crazy ... we can work this out
[04:18] <ubuntu> it's my friends computer not mine
[04:18] <ubuntu> I'm an Ubuntu feind
[04:18] <DaSkreech> ahhh
[04:18] <K-Ryan> Ah
[04:18] <DaSkreech> Then you should learn about live cds :0
[04:18] <ubuntu> he uses windows cause he's a vb feind
[04:18] <phoenixbyrd> force your friend to use it
[04:18] <ubuntu> I tried
[04:18] <DaSkreech> !mono
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <phoenixbyrd> gambas
[04:18] <ubuntu> VB get's in his way
[04:18] <K-Ryan> VB?
[04:19] <ubuntu> Visual Basic
[04:19] <K-Ryan> Oh
[04:19] <ubuntu> ya
[04:19] <K-Ryan> What about a dual boot?
[04:19] <ubuntu> he has no use for ubuntu
[04:19] <phoenixbyrd> have him try out gambas then
[04:19] <ubuntu> he was amused with the beryl desktop for about a week lol
[04:19] <ubuntu> I've had Ubuntu for about 2 years now :)
[04:19] <K-Ryan> Awesome
[04:20] <ubuntu> had my machine running for 6 months straight now :)
[04:20] <K-Ryan> 7 months for me
[04:20] <ubuntu> with no turn offs
[04:20] <K-Ryan> Well, I've had the CDs that long...
[04:20] <ubuntu> lol
[04:20] <K-Ryan> Running it sucessfully with knowledge of what I'm doing for 3-5
[04:20] <DaSkreech> well install Mono and monodevelop and he should be good
[04:20] <K-Ryan> Enjoying it for a good 3
[04:20] <DaSkreech>  ubuntu: VB or VB.net ?
[04:20] <ubuntu> I hand out the cd's like candy lol
[04:21] <ubuntu> visual basic
[04:21] <K-Ryan> I would but I don't want to order too many...
[04:21] <ubuntu> I always order 10 cd's at a time
[04:21] <ubuntu> need to
[04:21] <DaSkreech> he can run VB under wine As I recall
[04:21] <ubuntu> getting people in the area into Linux hehe
[04:21] <K-Ryan> That's always good to hear.
[04:21] <ubuntu> ok gotta fix the grub
[04:22] <K-Ryan> While in here twice I've heard about people switching their small business to it, Kubuntu more specifically.
[04:22] <K-Ryan> But yeah, try googling the error message.
[04:22] <ubuntu> I will
[04:22] <DaSkreech> Or read the grub FAQ page
[04:22] <ubuntu> I am
[04:22] <ubuntu> brb
[04:23] <K-Ryan> "Computers are like air conditioners. They both stop working when you open windows!"
[04:23] <phoenixbyrd> lol
[04:24] <K-Ryan> Oh man, some of this stuff is just great.
[04:24] <K-Ryan> This one is rather unrelated but it's a picture
[04:24] <K-Ryan> "Emo keyboard"
[04:24] <DaSkreech> ha ha is that on a shirt?
[04:24] <K-Ryan> Then has ctrl x
[04:24] <K-Ryan> Umm, lemme check.
[04:25] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[04:25] <K-Ryan> http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Linux/-/pv_design_details/pg_7/id_14199945/opt_/c_360
[04:25] <K-Ryan> baby bibs, hats, calendars
[04:26] <K-Ryan> You want it, they've got it.
[04:27] <K-Ryan> "Linux, find out what you've been missing while rebooting Windows!"
[04:27] <ubuntu> yo
[04:27] <K-Ryan> "Linux, because a PC is a terrible thing to waste."
[04:27] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[04:27] <ubuntu> grub> sudo -i
[04:27] <ubuntu> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[04:27] <ubuntu> grub> grub
[04:27] <ubuntu> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[04:27] <ubuntu> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:27] <ubuntu> Error 15: File not found
[04:27] <ubuntu> what do I do?
[04:27] <lobster> menu?
[04:27] <ubuntu> menu what?
[04:28] <lobster> just menu?
[04:28] <ubuntu> MENU WHAT?
[04:28] <ubuntu> type menu?
[04:28] <surgy> ?
[04:28] <K-Ryan> "Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect."
[04:28] <lobster> yes
[04:28] <K-Ryan> Then it says "Reboot now?" with only an "OK" button.
[04:28] <ubuntu> what do you wanna know you keep saing menu but what about the menu, menu what?
[04:29] <ubuntu> oh ok, Windows won't load
[04:29] <phoenixbyrd> 27 : Unrecognized command  This error is returned if an unrecognized command is entered into the command-line or in a boot sequence section of a configuration file and that entry is selected.
[04:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: first of all you can't sudo -i in a grub prompt
[04:29] <DaSkreech>  so you are doing somethign wrong
[04:29] <lobster> ubuntu in the grub prompt type menu, it should give you a list of options, (or maybe its help)
[04:29] <AutoMatriX> hi folks
[04:29] <K-Ryan> Hi AutoMatriX
[04:30] <phoenixbyrd> is menu.lst what it's talking about?
[04:30] <ubuntu> ok I'll try that
[04:30] <ubuntu> brb
[04:30] <lobster> ubuntu: sorry, it's help
[04:30] <lobster> ubuntu: not menu
[04:30] <DaSkreech> phoenixbyrd: Yeah
[04:30] <K-Ryan> Here's a good one.
[04:30] <K-Ryan> "Linux: For the people, by the people."
[04:31] <DaSkreech> what?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> That's not right
[04:31] <DaSkreech> it's written by waterfowl isn't it?
[04:31] <K-Ryan> What?
[04:31] <AutoMatriX> K-Ryan: by geeks for geeks ?
[04:31] <K-Ryan> I think it means in general along with the whole open source thing.
[04:32] <DaSkreech> What's all the penguins hanging around here for then?
[04:32] <K-Ryan> Haha
[04:32] <K-Ryan> "There's no place like ~"
[04:32] <K-Ryan> AHHH!
[04:33] <K-Ryan> There's one of those "No smoking" red symbol thing, but over "Linux"
[04:33] <K-Ryan> That's horrible!
[04:34] <K-Ryan> Heheh
[04:34] <K-Ryan> "Bird flu? Viruses? Just use Linux!"
[04:36] <K-Ryan> They should have a "Come with me if you want to live!" that has a picture of Tux, shirt.
[04:37] <K-Ryan> "Macintosh for Music, Linux for Development, Palm for Mobility, Windows for Solitaire"
[04:38] <K-Ryan> Err, Mac for media
[04:38] <Coldwar55> "Windows for Solitare" <--- True :p
[04:38] <K-Ryan> Mmm
[04:38] <Coldwar55> Except there are many different major Palm OSes
[04:39] <K-Ryan> Shh
[04:39] <K-Ryan> Don't ruin it =)
[04:39] <premier_> whats the linux equivalent to MS recorder?  I know linux wouldn't have such ridiculous program, but what is the basic all purpose sound editor?
[04:39] <K-Ryan> Audacity?
[04:40] <K-Ryan> Audacity might be a little complex, but you can use that.
[04:40] <DaSkreech> Coldwar55: and one good one :(
[04:40] <Coldwar55> hmm
[04:40] <Coldwar55> One good one?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> there is a gnome sound recorder
[04:40] <Coldwar55> I hope your not refering to MS Mobile
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Nope
[04:42] <DaSkreech>  the palmOS built on BeOS
[04:42] <Coldwar55> Oh ok
[04:42] <Coldwar55> That's good then ^^
[04:42] <DaSkreech> that they won't release
[04:42] <DaSkreech> while they die
[04:42] <Coldwar55> It's not MS though
[04:42] <K-Ryan> Isn't there an Ubuntu version?
[04:42] <DaSkreech> jerks
[04:42] <Coldwar55> Well
[04:42] <Coldwar55> I heard there is Linux OS in development for Palm
[04:42] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: Make sense man :)
[04:42] <DaSkreech> Coldwar55: there is
[04:42] <K-Ryan> For Palm
[04:42] <DaSkreech> But why bother when you have BeOS?
[04:43] <K-Ryan> Yeah that didn't really make sense...
[04:43] <K-Ryan> Version wasn't the right word.
[04:43] <ShadyTree> I remember BeOS
[04:43] <K-Ryan> They don't have Linux for Palm? I mean there's Linux for xbox, xbox 360, ps3, the wii, ipods, probably for the zune
[04:44] <K-Ryan> But not for Palm?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> ShadyTree: Seen Haiku>
[04:44] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: iphone :)
[04:44] <ShadyTree> DaSkreech, what
[04:44] <K-Ryan> Is there?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> ShadyTree: have you seen Haiku OS ?
[04:44] <K-Ryan> I figured they'd have a few for Palm, guess not...
[04:44] <ShadyTree> DaSkreech, no, I'll Wiki it
[04:44] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: don't doubt!
[04:45] <K-Ryan> Doubt what?
[04:45] <ShadyTree> DaSkreech, oh I see
[04:45] <K-Ryan> That there are any?
[04:45] <K-Ryan> Maybe there are and they are just less known, but with enough time, you'll be able to call a phone number and set your phone to use Linux...
[04:46] <ShadyTree> DaSkreech, have you tried Haiku
[04:46] <ShadyTree> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Haiku.png
[04:46] <DaSkreech> ShadyTree: Yeah
[04:48] <kalorin`> anyone know of something you can use that will allow konqueror to show thumbnails of adobe dng files?
[04:48] <K-Ryan> "Lord of the Geeks: The one nerd to rule them all"
[04:48] <kalorin`> camera raw files it shows, but once you get them into .dng format, it's just icons that show a camera, and I'd like to see the thumbnails
[04:48] <K-Ryan> "Hasta la vista, vista!
[04:49] <_6StringKng_> I have a Logitech Elite Keyboard LE, anyway to get all of my extra buttons working instead of just a few?
[04:50] <ebees> K-Ryan...thanks very much. I've clawed back 2G
[04:50] <ebees> Brilliant.
[04:50] <DaSkreech> !keyboard
[04:50] <_6StringKng_> like, mute, play/pause and calculator and th e-mail button work but I need the web browser one to as well
[04:50] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[04:50] <K-Ryan> You're welcome ebees
[04:50] <K-Ryan> Glad I could be of assistance
[04:50] <ebees> DaSkreech, thanks too
[04:50] <DaSkreech> ebees: Sure. don't recall what I did but you are mostwelcome
[04:50] <ebees> lnxkde, thanks to you too :)
[04:51] <K-Ryan> DaSkreech: ebees needed to free up space.
[04:51] <ebees> DaSkreech, like everyone else.. you added a to the solutin
[04:51] <ebees> solution sorry
[04:51] <K-Ryan> It happens =P
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Ah right :)
[04:52] <K-Ryan> Earlier on I tried to changedir in here
[04:52] <DaSkreech> du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11 FTW
[04:52] <K-Ryan> I forgot to click konsole =)
[04:52] <lnxkde> inte?
[04:52] <ebees> What I'm curious about is that /root/.local/share/Trash/files
[04:52] <lnxkde> ebees: ??
[04:52] <DaSkreech> better alias ducks='du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11' !!
[04:52] <ebees> had a collection of files that were not removed during the course of me deleting things normally
[04:53] <DaSkreech> ebees: it's a . folder
[04:53] <ebees> lnxkde - you helped with solving my problem :)
[04:53] <ebees> DaSkreech... should it not delete things as it goes?
[04:53] <K-Ryan> "When in doubt, right-click!"
[04:54] <DaSkreech> ebees: Should what not delete things?
[04:54] <ebees> Sorry. I had a huge collection of files in that folder. They were VERY old and were files I had thought I'd deleted a long time ago
[04:55] <ebees> I'm not sure why they would be stored inperpetuity in such a place
[04:55] <DaSkreech> ebees: cause you never cleared your trash
[04:55] <ebees> :)))
[04:56] <ebees> I do this regularly. When I open Trash there's nothing there now. It's a regular habit.
[04:56] <ebees> THis is why I'm confused.
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Well maybe Root has a different trash from you
[04:57] <ebees> I see. That'd made sense. To fix this ???? I'd have to log in as root and delete trash???
[04:57] <premier_> Hi, my fglrx driver just broke FOR NO REASON!!
[04:58] <DaSkreech> ebees: yup
[04:58] <premier_> whats the address of ati so I can mail them something
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Or pretned to be root
[04:58] <DaSkreech> one of the two
[04:58] <DaSkreech> http://www.amd.com
[04:59] <premier_> I meant the physical address.  What I need to mail can't go over the internet
[04:59] <ebees> DaSkreech: guess I'll just have to keep an eye on that folder
[04:59] <DaSkreech> ebees: who logs in as root?
[05:00] <ebees> No one to the GUI. I use root like everyone on occassions. I don't recall deleting that much over the time I've had this set up.
[05:01] <ebees> DaSkreech: Guess I must have deleted that much
[05:01] <DaSkreech> ebees: deleting thigns from the Cli don't go to trash
[05:02] <ebees> DaSkreech: ooooooooooooooh, I see. Is there a way to "Make it so, Mr Data" :))
[05:02] <DaSkreech> rm -> trash?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> no
[05:03] <ebees> DaSkreech: So I always have to keep an eye on this folder then... just made a note on my desktop.
[05:05] <ebees> Well, ball boys and ball girls :)) Thanks to everyone for your assistance. It was VERY much appreciated. Now have to go and finish of the children's cubby house.
[05:08] <K-Ryan> I restarted X.
[05:09] <K-Ryan> So yeah...
[05:10] <korobase_> !qt4-designer
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt4-designer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <korobase_> !designer
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about designer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <korobase_> Why not have the qt4-designer?
[05:17] <K-Ryan> Awfully quiet.
[05:17] <K-Ryan> Brb
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Boo!
[05:20] <nora> fdfse
[05:21] <andresx> !es
[05:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:32] <korobase_> !cvs
[05:32] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[05:32] <korobase_> !cvs front
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cvs front - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <ardchoille> brb
[05:32] <korobase_> !cvs for kde
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cvs for kde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <_6StringKng_> anyway I can stop konqueror from opening links from apps such as gaim etc...
[05:34] <_6StringKng_> I have Firefox set to default bowser but still does it
[05:36] <_6StringKng_> ?
[05:38] <K-Ryan> I got bored so I came back.
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> slow tonight
[05:43] <asfd> hi all im having a problem with my machine, its crashing almost always after about 30 40 mins. its completely frozen. anybody why?
[05:43] <K-Ryan> It was really busy before
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> asfd: try running memtest
[05:44] <K-Ryan> asfd: does it work for another 30-40 minutes right after that?
[05:44] <K-Ryan> As in, you don't have to wait?
[05:44] <asfd> yeah after i restart
[05:44] <K-Ryan> You can start it back up right after you restart?
[05:44] <asfd> ?
[05:44] <K-Ryan> When it freezes...
[05:45] <youbuntu> !luke
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <K-Ryan> You can turn it off, turn it on, and you're good to go for another 30-40 minutes, yes?
[05:45] <asfd> yes
[05:45] <IAmWill> does anyone know if e17 has made its way to a repository yeT?
[05:45] <K-Ryan> Okay, it's not a heat issue then.
[05:45] <K-Ryan> try what hitmanWilly said, memtest
[05:45] <IAmWill> and if so, which url would i use?
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> im guessing bad ram, happened to me before
[05:45] <asfd> i did already
[05:46] <K-Ryan> !e17
[05:46] <youbuntu> !virus
[05:46] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[05:46] <asfd> its not memory
[05:46] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:46] <_6StringKng_> http://www.memtest.org/
[05:46] <youbuntu> !virus
[05:46] <K-Ryan> You got your answer youbuntu.
[05:46] <asfd> i suspected the same
[05:46] <K-Ryan> "A/V software is availible, however read......"
[05:46] <K-Ryan> That was for you
[05:47] <asfd> are there any log files  i can check
[05:47] <IAmWill> that doesnt answer any questions i had... i run e17 on my gentoo box... i know e17 is under development.. it has been for years
[05:47] <IAmWill> is it in a repository or not?
[05:47] <K-Ryan> IAmWill, I was just checking that because I've never heard of it.
[05:47] <IAmWill> ohhh... sorry
[05:48] <K-Ryan> It's okay =P
[05:48] <IAmWill> =)(
[05:48] <IAmWill> =)
[05:48] <ninina> *sigh* still no clue how to make this work
[05:48] <K-Ryan> ninina what's the problem?
[05:48] <_6StringKng_> anyone have experience with thunderbird in linux, when I hit my e-mail button on my keyboard it just opens a new message, I'm wanting to make it just open thunderbird
[05:48] <K-Ryan> IAmWIll you can search the repos worst comes to worst.
[05:48] <mantice> Does any one know how to reinstall drivers for tv capture cards ?
[05:49] <ninina> K-Ryan: I think I need to reboot my computer for nvida to work
[05:49] <ninina> brb
[05:49] <IAmWill> yeah... whats the url to that big ass list of repos?
[05:49] <K-Ryan> No I mean in Adept or Synaptic
[05:51] <mike> after upgradeing to feisty on my labtop i get an error when i boot up if i am using the latest kernal... but it goes away if i boot with the old one.
[05:51] <K-Ryan> Were there problems upgrading?
[05:51] <ninina> K-Ryan: =(
[05:52] <ninina> K-Ryan: wait it's working
[05:52] <K-Ryan> ninina: Is it? That's great!
[05:52] <mike> after it upgraded i got this error... so i switched to the old kernal and it booted
[05:52] <ninina> K-Ryan: well atleast glxgears is working
[05:52] <K-Ryan> What's the error mike?
[05:52] <_6StringKng_> uh, I used to have the system setting choice in my k-menu, like when I hovered over it would expand like most of the other things in it, I can't remember how I did it, anyone know?
[05:53] <mike> starting volume managment system: ata1.01: exception emask ........
[05:53] <K-Ryan> ninina: You can type in sudo apt-get install neverball
[05:53] <ninina> K-Ryan: huh?
[05:53] <K-Ryan> It's a fun little game
[05:53] <K-Ryan> =P
[05:54] <ninina> K-Ryan: I'm working on making beryl work
[05:54] <K-Ryan> But it uses accelerated graphics, so if your drivers aren't setup right, it will lag really bad.
[05:54] <K-Ryan> Just another way to test it.
[05:54] <K-Ryan> Beryl is actually an easy setup
[05:55] <Coldwar55> yeah but it's only eye candy atm
[05:55] <K-Ryan> But there is so much to customize, that's where the time goes
[05:55] <K-Ryan> Not that it's required, but I had to see everything it offered...
[05:55] <mike> is there a way to get a log file for errors whle the system is booting?
[05:55] <ninina> K-Ryan: why does adept keep crashing
[05:56] <IAmWill> ninina, it sucks
[05:56] <IAmWill> ninina, use synaptic
[05:56] <K-Ryan> I don't have trouble with it, although I know of one bug
[05:56] <K-Ryan> What are you doing that it crashes ninina?
[05:56] <IAmWill> K-Ryan, using it... =)
[05:56] <ninina> K-Ryan: something is messed up in my system
[05:57] <K-Ryan> Have you edited the repos recently?
[05:57] <ninina> K-Ryan: nope, I'm just gonna reinstall
[05:57] <ninina> K-Ryan: easier then messing with stuff
[05:57] <K-Ryan> Well I guess that's one option
[05:57] <K-Ryan> Wait, Kubuntu or Adept?
[05:58] <ninina> K-Ryan: Kubuntu...I only installed it like 3hours ago and it's already majorly messed up
[05:58] <K-Ryan> Oh I didn't know you were having that much trouble with it.
[05:58] <K-Ryan> Alright then, good luck with it.
[05:59] <ninina> K-Ryan: my windows don't even have boarders anymore so I can't close them
[05:59] <K-Ryan> Oh wow
[05:59] <ninina> K-Ryan: or move them or minimize them
[05:59] <K-Ryan> Alt+click to move
[05:59] <ninina> K-Ryan: so yeah a reinstall sounds good
[05:59] <K-Ryan> ctrl+alt+esc then click to close
[05:59] <K-Ryan> alt+tab to browse between them
[06:00] <maycolito> hi chanel
[06:00] <maycolito> good night
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Until you reinstall that should help
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Good night maycolito
[06:00] <ninina> K-Ryan: I'm reinstalling right now hehe
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Ah, gotcha
[06:01] <maycolito> so how is everything going?
[06:01] <IAmWill> if anyone else is interested in e17.... i found the repo links.... http://edevelop.org/node/3005   <--- read and enjoy
[06:01] <DaSkreech> !info enlightenment
[06:01] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-5 (feisty), package size 398 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[06:01] <DaSkreech> !info kdesvn
[06:01] <ubotu> kdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-1 (feisty), package size 1517 kB, installed size 3608 kB
[06:02] <IAmWill> DaSkreech, yeah... it only offers 16... not 17
[06:03] <maycolito> quick question does feisty come with some kind of default firewall?
[06:04] <maycolito> I cannot get my amule to conect other than firewalled
[06:04] <K-Ryan> Sorry about that...
[06:04] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: try #elbuntu
[06:05] <maycolito> ok
[06:05] <IAmWill> nice, thanks
[06:05] <DaSkreech> korobase_: kdesvn ?
[06:05] <korobase_> cvs front.not svn!
[06:06] <lnxkde> ls
[06:06] <korobase_> I find it named cervisia.
[06:06] <lnxkde> guys
[06:06] <lnxkde> I need help
[06:06] <lnxkde> I just compiled my kernel
[06:06] <lnxkde> make
[06:06] <lnxkde> make install
[06:06] <DaSkreech> korobase_: Oh yes that would be it
[06:07] <DaSkreech> !kernel
[06:07] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:07] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: ^^^
[06:08] <lnxkde> and when booting it says FATAL no such file /lib/whatever/modules.dep not found :/
[06:08] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: ;)
[06:08] <xlinux__> heres a really dumb question
[06:09] <DaSkreech> jack benny!
[06:09] <DaSkreech> real dumb answer :)
[06:09] <xlinux__> where do I configure keyboard shortcuts for KDE?
[06:10] <xlinux__> I know its harder in KDE than in Gnome
[06:10] <_6StringKng_> whta would you recommend to play dvds in Kubuntu?
[06:10] <_6StringKng_> what*
[06:10] <DaSkreech> xlinux__: alt+space -> system -> <press enter> -> keyboard
[06:10] <DaSkreech> !dvd
[06:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:10] <xlinux__> alt space does nothing.. what GUI am I looking for?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> what?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> alt+space does nothing???
[06:11] <DaSkreech> are you on kubuntu?
[06:12] <K-Ryan> alt+space launches katapalt
[06:12] <xlinux__> yeah.. kubuntu
[06:12] <K-Ryan> *katapult
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:12] <xlinux__> interesting.. i have katapult, but alt space dont launch it
[06:12] <DaSkreech> xlinux__: strange :)
[06:13] <K-Ryan> Quite
[06:13] <DaSkreech> xlinux__: in anycase open up system settings
[06:13] <xlinux__> I found it though.. i cant believe i didnt find it earlier
[06:13] <DaSkreech> how do you call katapult ?
[06:13] <xlinux__> its in my K menu
[06:14] <DaSkreech> oh yeah
[06:14] <DaSkreech> when you click it then you should see a note in the top left corner
[06:14] <DaSkreech> which should say alt+space
[06:14] <DaSkreech> .. I think
[06:14] <xlinux__> interesting.. I launched it and the note came up, but alt space does nothing
[06:14] <DaSkreech> ...
[06:15] <lnxkde> xlinux__: u using beryl?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> most unrighteous
[06:15] <xlinux__> hahahhahahahhah
[06:15] <xlinux__> yessir, for once im using beryl
[06:15] <xlinux__> i rarely do.. kind of pointless
[06:15] <lnxkde> well katapult will never launch ;)
[06:15] <K-Ryan> Good call lnxkde
[06:16] <lnxkde> :D
[06:16] <_6StringKng_> yeah when I try one of the commads for activating DVD decrypting it gives an arror
[06:16] <_6StringKng_> sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found
[06:16] <xlinux__> I still dont get beryl.. i mean its pretty, but whats the point?
[06:16] <K-Ryan> DaSkreech: What's wrong with it?
[06:16] <xlinux__> and why is it so gnome based
[06:16] <K-Ryan> xlinux__ it's just eye candy
[06:16] <phoenixbyrd> _6StringKng_: use automatix for dvd codecs
[06:16] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: If I can't use katapult then :-p :-P :-P :-P~~~
[06:17] <K-Ryan> Ah
[06:17] <DaSkreech> xlinux__: kwin_composite ftw :)
[06:17] <xlinux__> I never really used it.. whats its function
[06:17] <DaSkreech> beryl?
[06:17] <_6StringKng_> he source can't be read.
[06:17] <_6StringKng_> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (///dev/hdc)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> To showcase nvidia drivers i think
[06:17] <_6StringKng_> I get that too when I try to use caffeine
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> xlinux__: to look pretty
[06:18] <lnxkde> well I like beryl !
[06:18] <lnxkde> :p
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> xlinux__: that's it :)
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> xlinux__: altho it does that quite well
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> kicks the crap out of aero
[06:19] <xlinux__> I will say the cube can be useful when multitasking.. but rain?!? I mean cmon :)
[06:19] <DaSkreech> _6StringKng_: does that shell script exist?
[06:19] <xlinux__> hitmanWilly.. yes it does, and aero sucks
[06:19] <_6StringKng_> no clue, I installed what it said, th elibdvd3 whatever and tried the command
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> beryl sucks less :)
[06:20] <_6StringKng_> libdvdread3
[06:20] <xlinux__> I guess KDE keyboard shortcuts wont work with Beryl will they..
[06:20] <K-Ryan> Guess not
[06:21] <xlinux__> Like my internet key wont open firefox with beryl on, but it will using Kwin
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> xlinux__: they work except for the ones that beryl takes over
[06:21] <_6StringKng_> my internet key wont work period, lol
[06:21] <_6StringKng_> and my e-mail opens a new message instead of the app
[06:21] <K-Ryan> Wow you guys just reminded me that I have those keys...
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> _6StringKng_: you may need libdvdcss2 as well
[06:21] <xlinux__> 6stringKing, thats exactly what I have...
[06:22] <xlinux__> worked fine when I used to run Ubuntu
[06:22] <K-Ryan> I never wheel my keyboard out from the desk, I just stick my hands in there because the gap is large enough.
[06:22] <K-Ryan> But I hardly used those buttons, I can't believe I forgot about them, hah
[06:22] <_6StringKng_> I rely on them so much in windows, wish they would work in Kubuntu just as good
[06:22] <xlinux__> I used to be a Gnome head, but KDE is just so much better..
[06:22] <_6StringKng_> all but those 2 work fine
[06:23] <_6StringKng_> media one opens Amarok, mute works, calculator, etc...
[06:23] <lnxkde> lnxkde@lnxkde-desktop:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20$ AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs
[06:23] <lnxkde> make: *** No rule to make target `binary-debs'.  Stop.
[06:23] <xlinux__> mute doesnt work for me
[06:23] <lnxkde> what whould be the problem?
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> Anyone know how to open a program in XNest with KDE Window decorations?
[06:23] <_6StringKng_> where can I download libdvdcss2, do I need to add a source to the repos list?
[06:24] <Maxdamantus> Found this >> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/05/howto-run-gimp-in-one-window/ so I can use GIMP efficiently.
[06:24] <Maxdamantus> But it's for xfce, so has no Window decorations.
[06:25] <ejortegau> hi there
[06:25] <K-Ryan> Howdy
[06:25] <xlinux__> I dont see a single volume control option in keyboard shortcuts
[06:25] <ejortegau> hm
[06:26] <mrtrosen> hi everyone.. i hae a custom manipulator, and want to have an ImageField... (with oldforms)
[06:26] <mrtrosen> what do i need to put in the custom manipulator to get the upload stuff to work.. ie, thre's no forms.ImageField(..) item
[06:27] <Level15> hi. could   you guys help me out to configure my wireless network? My university uses dynamic WEP but i can't find a way to set that up under knetworkmanager
[06:28] <mrtrosen> level15, use the wlassistant tools
[06:28] <Level15> mrtrosen: ok, i'll look into that
[06:28] <mrtrosen> just run:  sudo wlassistant
[06:28] <mrtrosen> if you don't have wlassistant installed, run:  sudo apt-get install wlassistant
[06:29] <xlinux__> 6StringKing, I now have those 2 buttons working.. just mute wont work
[06:29] <Level15> will do, but give me a second because I'm downloading updates right now...
[06:29] <xlinux__> it pops up on the screen, but it doesnt actually mute the volume...
[06:29] <Level15> i'm new to kubuntu...
[06:30] <Level15> got tired of foing everything by hand
[06:30] <Level15> *doing
[06:30] <mrtrosen> i've only used linux since 1993, so I might know one or 2 things..
[06:30] <Level15> lol
[06:31] <Level15> just a couple of them
[06:31] <david2_> partimage can only do one partition at a time?
[06:31] <mrtrosen> now, if i could figure out how to get a custom manipulator to work with an imagefield, i'd be great..
[06:31] <Level15> i started in 2001 or something like that
[06:31] <david2_> annoying
[06:31] <lnxkde> ^*$%#*($ what I have to do to get my usbs to work on feisty...
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Anyone works on KDE?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> What's the KDE example user?
[06:32] <Greenery> i can't open google search with firefox and konqueror
[06:32] <lnxkde> we hate GNOME?
[06:32] <Greenery> any idea what's wrong?
[06:32] <Level15> mrtrosen: sorry to bother you... this wlassistant thing is also asking for my WEP key, which i don't have since they are dynamic
[06:33] <Maxdamantus> Dynamic WEP key?
[06:33] <Level15> yep...
[06:33] <Maxdamantus> ... How does that work?
[06:34] <Level15> Maxdamantus: something like 802.1X
[06:34] <Maxdamantus> All data send from the Wireless is encrypted with the WEP key.
[06:34] <Maxdamantus> If it's dynamic, they'd have to manually find out what it is by looking at it from a wired connection.
[06:35] <Level15> trust me, it's dynamic. They key is given by the AP. THe user onthe client computer must authenticate to some radius server or something like that
[06:35] <Level15> otherwise traffic is denied
[06:35] <Level15> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.1x
[06:35] <Maxdamantus> That's extremely stuffed up.
[06:35] <Level15> and the AP changes the key every now and then
[06:35] <mrtrosen> yea, you're going to have issues :(
[06:36] <Maxdamantus> I don't see how it can broadcast the new one.
[06:36] <Level15> Maxdamantus: i don't understand exactly how it works, but that's the way it is
[06:36] <Maxdamantus> If you're starting a connection from a wireless device, it needs to know the WEP encryption before it can connect to it.
[06:36] <Greenery> can any of u guys open google.com.bn
[06:36] <mrtrosen> they're probably using the cisco aironet crap
[06:37] <Level15> mrtrosen: i wouldn't know...
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> I can open google.com.bn
[06:37] <Greenery> omg...is there comething wrong with my kubuntu?
[06:37] <Greenery> i cant open it
[06:37] <Greenery> *something
[06:38] <Maxdamantus> Level15, I see.. Seems fairly useless though.
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: try pinging it
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Greenery: check your dns
[06:38] <Maxdamantus> Since it needs two connections, one to the WN, and one to the AS.
[06:38] <Greenery> how to those u mentioned guys?
[06:38] <Greenery> *do
[06:38] <Level15> Maxdamantus: well, i think they just want to know that people using the wireless network is actually enrolled either as students or staff on the university
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: in a konsole ping <website>
[06:39] <Greenery> say unknown host
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> Why not just have no key then?
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: yeah, sounds like DNS issues
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> And have software protection.
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> Such as a password protected proxy.
[06:39] <Greenery> how to fix that?
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> !dns
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> hmmm...
[06:40] <mrtrosen> can you ping:  64.233.161.99
[06:40] <Greenery> yup
[06:40] <Greenery> i can
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> yeah, that's DNS
[06:40] <mrtrosen> can you put it in your browser, does it bring up google?
[06:40] <mrtrosen> ie, http://64.233.161.99
[06:41] <Greenery> yeah i can
[06:41] <mrtrosen> then problem is 100% certainly DNS problem
[06:41] <Greenery> how to fix the dns problem then?
[06:41] <mrtrosen> shrug
[06:41] <mrtrosen> youcould put it in your hosts file
[06:42] <Level15> Maxdamantus: authentication against the radius is far more secure... if the user doesn't authenticate, his traffic is not going anywhere beyond the AP, so he can't actually access any machines, not even on campus machines
[06:42] <xlinux__> are there any applications that allow one to sort items shown in the taskbar?
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: DNS is external to the machine, could be a million different issues
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: in all actuality, you're probably not connecting to the DNS server, or its down
[06:44] <Greenery> ah okay
[06:44] <Greenery> my vista could connect to that site though
[06:44] <Greenery> just my kubuntu wont let me
[06:45] <mrtrosen> ?
[06:46] <mrtrosen> are you on the same subnet with both vista and kubuntu?
[06:46] <danny500> hey guy's
[06:46] <Level15> gdfcbc
[06:46] <mrtrosen> cause that doesn't make a whole lotta sense
[06:46] <danny500> guess what
[06:46] <danny500> I got a new computer :D
[06:46] <Greenery> what do u mean bu that?
[06:46] <Greenery> *by
[06:46] <mrtrosen> if both computers are hitting the same nameserver, they should both be able to resolve the host www.google.com
[06:46] <danny500> AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 1GB Ram 512MB PCI-EX 16x :D
[06:47] <danny500> yay
[06:47] <danny500> one problem though
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: jump into kcontrol ->internet & network -> network settings -> domain name system and see what's listed
[06:47] <danny500> my hard drive would register in the bios
[06:47] <mrtrosen> or just less /etc/resolv.conf
[06:47] <danny500> any help
[06:47] <Maxdamantus> Found this >> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/05/howto-run-gimp-in-one-window/ so I can use GIMP efficiently. Am I able to do this with KDE so that I have Window decorations (So I can atleast resize/move Windows inside)?
[06:47] <danny500> won't*
[06:48] <Greenery> domain name server: 192.168.0.1
[06:48] <danny500> anyone
[06:48] <BluesKaj> danny500, is it not listed?
[06:48] <Greenery> is that what ur looking for?/
[06:48] <danny500> nope
[06:48] <danny500> it's a sata 2 300gb
[06:48] <danny500> Western Digital V.10
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: that's your router
[06:49] <Level15> i think i got it workin, u know?
[06:49] <BluesKaj> danny500, you installed that HDD yourself , right ?
[06:49] <danny500> yes
[06:49] <Greenery> which part of the Bomain Name System should I be looking for?
[06:49] <Level15> i h ad to install some gnome shit, though
[06:49] <danny500> it's plugged in properly but bios doesnt see it
[06:49] <Level15> danny500: check jumpers...
[06:49] <danny500> there isn't any
[06:49] <danny500> Sata 2 remember
[06:49] <Level15> lol
[06:50] <Level15> haven't installed one, so i wouldn't know
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: try adding nameserver 24.159.64.20 to /etc/resolv.conf and see what happens
[06:50] <danny500> it's alway on cable select no matter what
[06:50] <BluesKaj> danny500,check the jumper requirements for it to be the master..then check the bios boot sequence
[06:51] <danny500> there are no jumpers
[06:51] <Greenery> write that down under the nameserver?
[06:51] <BluesKaj> it may require them
[06:51] <danny500> and it's on master spot and bios won't see it
[06:51] <danny500> THERE ARE NO JUMPERS
[06:51] <danny500> don't need them, there isn't even any spots for them
[06:52] <Greenery> it worked
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> :)
[06:52] <danny500> like I said, it's always on cable select no matter what
[06:52] <Greenery> thanks
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> np :)
[06:52] <Greenery> what does it do actually?
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: it contacts that server for the ip address of the website you are trying to connect to
[06:53] <Greenery> ah i get
[06:53] <Greenery> thanks for the help
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> Greenery: sorta like an internet phone book
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> np
[07:01] <Rictoo> guys
[07:02] <Rictoo> I was screwing around with ctrl+alt+esc
[07:02] <Rictoo> and no my tastbar is gone o.O
[07:02] <Rictoo> taskbar*
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo: just logout and log back in
[07:03] <Rictoo> meh
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> there's an app for it but i can't remember the name
[07:04] <Rictoo> -.-
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> kpanel maybe...
[07:04] <Rictoo> lemme try
[07:04] <Rictoo> sudo: kpanel: command not found
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> damn
[07:05] <Rictoo> oh well, I'll log out and back in
[07:06] <Daisuke_Ido> kicker
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> yeah, just figured it out
[07:07] <Daisuke_Ido> i just wish i would have gotten here 15 seconds earlier
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> top and just start clicking the menu
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> well, i already knew it though :\
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i could have saved the poor boy some time
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> :)
[07:09] <DaSkreech> kicker
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> kinda slow tonight...
[07:14] <ninina> *cry* I so regret trying to install kubuntu
[07:15] <mark__> why cry?
[07:15] <Simeon_H> I just bought a Netgear WG511v2 wireless card... and it doesn't work
[07:15] <ninina> because nothing works
[07:15] <mark__> ?
[07:15] <Lynoure> ninina: nothing?
[07:16] <mark__> like/
[07:16] <mark__> like?
[07:16] <mark__> did you get install errors?
[07:17] <ninina> beryl, nvidia drivers, my monitor's true resolution, adept and well I haven't tried anything else at this point
[07:17] <ninina> nope
[07:18] <mark__> possible to use other graphic drivers instead?
[07:18] <Simeon_H> what the hell do I do?
[07:18] <_6StringKng_> anyone recommend some cool shit to mess around with in kubuntu, games, apps, etc..?
[07:19] <ninina> mark__: yes, but I'll lose acceleration if I do
[07:19] <ninina> brb I have to reboot to hopefully get adept back
[07:20] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: you look at the first link googled by a volunteer that does not know any more about the card you do :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109419
[07:20] <mark__> what do you want to use kubuntu for...graphic apps?
[07:20] <xlinux__> I came here to help, but now I have a... Konversation... problem, lol
[07:21] <mark__> I havve it running on an old compaq piii and seems okay....
[07:22] <mark__> I haven't got wireless to work yet
[07:22] <Lynoure> _6StringKng_: my opinion on what is cool stuff is not necessarily matching with yours
[07:22] <_6StringKng_> yeah, true
[07:23] <xlinux__> any idea why the konversation server list wont close?
[07:24] <mohsin> hi
[07:24] <Lynoure> _6StringKng_: So, what kind of things you find cool? :) I tend to like Basket, but it cool as in nice tool. :)  Democracyplayer is cool according to most
[07:25] <mark__> what is basket?
[07:25] <_6StringKng_> uh, well, some games I suppose, media players, although caffeine and amarok seem to do fine
[07:26] <_6StringKng_> and also, anyone have exp with teamspeak for linux, I can't seem to get my mic working in it although through the mixer its fine
[07:27] <Simeon_H> that doesn't help
[07:29] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: Is your card made in China or somewhere else?
[07:29] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: what does lshw say about it?
[07:31] <Simeon_H> it doesn't detect it
[07:31] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: What was your error when you tried it wish ndiswrapper?
[07:31] <Simeon_H> I installed the drivers
[07:31] <mark__> anyone know where to get games for kubuntu..chess or something like that....
[07:31] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: if lshw does not show your card, most probably it is not properly plugged in
[07:31] <Simeon_H> but it doesn't detect any hardware
[07:31] <mohsin> hay any one tell me that
[07:32] <mohsin> i can't login with the root user what the prob is
[07:32] <ninina> I'm so frustrated
[07:32] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: second most common cause for it not showing in lshw is if the card is totally broken.
[07:32] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: in which case you should take it back.
[07:32] <Simeon_H> nah I stuck it in my brothers laptop (which runs windows) and it detected it
[07:32] <Simeon_H> :/
[07:32] <mohsin> i can't login with the root user what the prob is
[07:32] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: then try reinserting it.
[07:33] <mark__> ninina - does adjusting the resolution help re graphics....
[07:33] <mohsin> friends
[07:33] <mohsin> i ask a question
[07:33] <mohsin> i can't login with the root user what the prob is
[07:34] <Lynoure> !sudo | mohsin
[07:34] <ubotu> mohsin: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:34] <Lynoure> mohsin: root login is disabled by default, and sudo recommended by Ubuntu instead
[07:34] <mohsin> dear i want to login with the rooot user just like in fedora but i can't loged inn in kubuntu
[07:35] <mohsin> can we enabled the root user
[07:35] <Lynoure> mohsin: you can set root a password if you want, just like in fedora
[07:35] <mohsin> or can creat an user with root power
[07:35] <mohsin> i did that
[07:35] <mohsin> when i enter the pass
[07:35] <mohsin> the screen become blank
[07:36] <mohsin> and take the handle back to the previous stage (login window)
[07:36] <Lynoure> mohsin: I would not recommend using root in X, or as a normal day to day user, really.
[07:37] <mohsin> but i want to because i am a newbi in linux
[07:37] <mark__> ninina...for me it defaultts to 1600x1200
[07:37] <mrtrosen> anybody have any info on a custom manipulator with an ImageField?
[07:38] <Lynoure> mohsin: nah, then you would not have mentioned Fedora =)
[07:38] <mohsin> with the root user i can do anything like installation and system administration by not going into complexcities
[07:38] <mohsin> because i install fedora and use it
[07:38] <Lynoure> mohsin: you can do all that with sudo
[07:38] <mohsin> ahan
[07:38] <mohsin> thanks dear
[07:38] <mohsin> for your time
[07:38] <Lynoure> mohsin: you are welcome, babe
[07:42] <_6StringKng_> in firefox sometimes it opens links in new windows instead f tabs, anyone know how to fix that, somewhere in about:config I suppose, but not sure where to look
[07:42] <mark__> oops
[07:45] <clinton> can someone help me with mounting issues?
[07:46] <_6StringKng_> whats up?
[07:46] <Lilacor> I'm depressed... I can't get my Nvidia modules working.
[07:46] <Zabulus> I had a partition mounted before, but now that i reset, its not mounted again
[07:46] <Zabulus> tried remounting, but when i try to access it, it cant
[07:46] <Lilacor> Zabulus: what error does it give you?
[07:47] <_6StringKng_> k, check your fstab file sudo kate /etc/fstab
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Where did ninina go?
[07:47] <_6StringKng_> I installed ntfs-config and ntfs-3g through adept then added /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 for both my hdds, worked for me, although your will differ from mine
[07:48] <Zabulus> the partition is showing up there
[07:49] <Lilacor> how do I get my nvidia module to load properly?
[07:49] <Zabulus> i try mounting, that works, but when i try to access, it says "could not enter foler"
[07:50] <Zabulus> folder*
[07:50] <nicolai_> Zabulus: I tried that yesterday
[07:50] <nicolai_> Zabulus: You want the graphical way or commandline?
[07:51] <haydar_> How can i check the KDE version number
[07:51] <haydar_> Kubuntu newest version
[07:52] <mrtrosen> if anyone ever cares, in a custom manipulator, the field type for an image is :  ImageUploadField
[07:52] <mrtrosen> hmm.
[07:52] <mrtrosen> i guess i know why nobody answered my question, i'm on the wrong forum ;)
[07:52] <nicolai_> Zabulus: Right click on the folder -> permissions -> advanced permissions -> click the checkboxes
[07:53] <ninina> I'm remembering why I use windows
[07:53] <nicolai_> Zabulus: I haven't registered my account, so I can't talk privately.
[07:53] <Lilacor> ninina: hate it already eh?
[07:53] <ninina> Lilacor: I like beable to actually do what I want to do
[07:53] <Zabulus> unfortunately, permissions is not an option from right click
[07:54] <Lilacor> ninina: and somehow windows lets you do this?
[07:54] <nicolai_> Zabulus: ahh. Who is owner of the folder? What folder is it? external? /etc?
[07:55] <Zabulus> dual boot all on one hd, to make things interesting
[07:55] <nicolai_> Lilacor: Go to system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> configure -> proprietary
[07:55] <Lilacor> ninina: Ubuntu isn't ready for everyone yet but it lets you do a lot of things Win32 can't.
[07:55] <ninina> Lilacor: well my hardware works, and I can use my correct video resolutions.
[07:55] <Zabulus> the partition im trying to access is my main storage
[07:55] <Lilacor> nicolai_: I have no screens available. :(
[07:56] <haydar_> Hmm anyone knows
[07:56] <haydar_> when kubuntu upgrades
[07:56] <haydar_> KDE?
[07:56] <haydar_> 4.0
[07:56] <DaSkreech> ninina: Whats the problem?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> haydar_: When it's done
[07:56] <haydar_> xD
[07:56] <haydar_> maybe a simple question :
[07:56] <haydar_> If a new kubuntu version releases
[07:56] <DaSkreech> it won't
[07:56] <nicolai_> haydar_: KDE 4.0 will be released on october 23 2007
[07:57] <haydar_> Hmm thx
[07:57] <haydar_> do i need to reinstall everything
[07:57] <haydar_> when a newer version releases
[07:57] <haydar_> or
[07:57] <DaSkreech> kubuntu may not ship with KDe4 till KDE 4.1
[07:57] <ninina> DaSkreech: I can't get nvidia drivers to install, programs randomly refuse to load, and I can't use beryl...that's the big 3 right now
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Which programs refuse to load?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Leave beryl out till you geta stable system
[07:57] <Lilacor> ninina: hey, join the crowd. I can't get my nvidia drivers working either.
[07:57] <Zabulus> ok, the partition im trying to mount is /dev/sda7, trying to mount it to /media/sda7
[07:58] <ninina> Lilacor: that doesn't make it "ok"
[07:58] <Lilacor> ninina: it's not always easy but it feels good when you make things working
[07:58] <rural-logic> g'day all
[07:58] <DaSkreech> ninina: Which programs refuse to load ?
[07:58] <nicolai_> Zabulus: this should do the trick    sudo chmod 777 *
[07:58] <Lilacor> ninina: Linux takes a little more effort. That's just the way it is at the outset for any user.
[07:59] <nicolai_> Zabulus: The asterix being the folder name obviously
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Esp when peopel refuse to give you drivers :(
[07:59] <ninina> DaSkreech: well I'm not sure but it seems to the ones using kdesu
[07:59] <haydar_> rofl i just deleted windows XP
[07:59] <haydar_> and all
[07:59] <haydar_> format
[07:59] <haydar_> now i'm using linux 100%
[07:59] <haydar_> after a while its getting easyer
[07:59] <haydar_> yesterday i didnt know how to install drivers
[07:59] <haydar_> now i can do it in a minute
[07:59] <DaSkreech> ninina: can you give me an example ?
[08:00] <ninina> Lilacor: I'm not a real fan of fight with your computer
[08:00] <Lilacor> ninina: most users aren't but nobody said it was supposed to be easy
[08:00] <nicolai_> haydar_: It took me about four months with kubuntu 6.06 to dump Windows XP for the disk space :)
[08:00] <Lilacor> ninina: if they did, they didn't tell you the entire story
[08:00] <ninina> DaSkreech: well Adept sometimes doesn't load, the system manager locks up when switching into admin mode
[08:01] <DaSkreech> ninina: It's not so much a fight as an understanding
[08:01] <Cruzader> I've got a laptop with Fedora 7t4 (only) and this desktop with Feisty, and a windows partition ( I play games)
[08:01] <Zabulus> still getting the cant enter folder error
[08:01] <DaSkreech> ninina: straight doesn't load or throws an error?
[08:01] <ninina> Lilacor: no one said it would be easy, but it should be...
[08:01] <chi0> hello all
[08:01] <nicolai_> Zabulus: sudo chmod 777 '/dev/sda7'
[08:02] <ninina> DaSkreech: pretends to load for a while and then just doesn't
[08:02] <nicolai_> Zabulus: then unmount, then mount again
[08:02] <Cruzader> DaSkreech: I'm guessing won't load, no error.  I get the same thing once in a while
[08:02] <nicolai_> Zabulus: You might need to exit konsole
[08:02] <rural-logic> same here
[08:02] <DaSkreech> ninina: try open it from the command line
[08:02] <mokkan> hey, can you use .deb packages with apt?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> You may see an error that helps you figure it out
[08:02] <DaSkreech>  kdesu adept-manager
[08:02] <DaSkreech> mokkan: Yes
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !apt
[08:02] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:03] <chi0> it might be a prob w/ dbus
[08:03] <Zabulus> still the same error
[08:04] <Cruzader> DaSkreech: I think its a KDESU error, it happens sometimes with other apps. prompts for password then never loads.  I'm trying to reproduce from console
[08:04] <ninina> DaSkreech: no, but it seems to be a problem with the graphical version of sudo as my friend has the exact same problem
[08:04] <Zabulus> "/dev/sda7	/media/sda7	ntfs	defaults,nls=utf8,umas=007,gid46 0 1"
[08:04] <Zabulus> thats what my fstab shows for it
[08:04] <chi0> do you have ntfs read and write?
[08:04] <ninina> getting nvidia to work is my biggest prority
[08:04] <nicolai_> Zabulus: I think I asked this before, but i forget. who is the owner of the partition? What format is it in?
[08:05] <Zabulus> how do i check the owner? format is ntfs
[08:05] <Cruzader> DaSkreech: I just got it to not even prompt for password, but there is no output to the console
[08:05] <DaSkreech> ninina: I guess that you asked in #ubuntu-effects ?
[08:06] <ninina> DaSkreech: about nvidia...no I haven't
[08:06] <RawSewage_> can I use the Restricted Driver thing from Ubuntu in Kubuntu?
[08:06] <nicolai_> Zabulus: this should you the ownership    ls -lah
[08:07] <nicolai_> you need to be in the /media folder first of course
[08:07] <FFForever> when i use kde4 it crashes
[08:07] <FFForever> how come?
[08:07] <RawSewage_> because it's alpha
[08:08] <Cruzader> cause its under heavy development and not even in beta stages
[08:08] <RawSewage_> I wouldnt even bother
[08:08] <RawSewage_> KDE4 alpha is like KDE3 that doesnt work
[08:08] <Cruzader> I doubt youd notice much difference anyway, I don't think Plasma's been implemented fully
[08:08] <ninina> Maybe I should try ubuntu, supposively gnome has a nvidia auto installer
[08:08] <RawSewage_> all of KDE 4 is under the hood
[08:08] <Cruzader> or any of the 'cool' features
[08:09] <nicolai_> FFForever: KDE 4-0 will be released 23 october. They just stopped changing the most basic code, so nothing stable will appear for months.
[08:09] <RawSewage_> Does the NVidia auto installer work in  Kubuntu
[08:09] <Cruzader> RawSewage_: I don't believe so
[08:09] <RawSewage_> ok
[08:09] <FFForever> ok, but why did someone post this then?, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php for installing kde4?
[08:09] <Cruzader> for developers
[08:09] <RawSewage_> I dont know
[08:09] <RawSewage_> it messed up my computer
[08:09] <DaSkreech> ninina: it's the same one under kubuntu I would think
[08:10] <RawSewage_> Trying out KDE4 made me reformat after everything got messed up, and I tried Ubuntu
[08:10] <Cruzader> DaSkreech: kubuntu has no restricted-drivers management thing like ubuntu does... at least not with a base install
[08:10] <RawSewage_> Im now reformatting my hard drive and installing Kubuntu
[08:10] <ninina> DaSkreech: no, there is no installer for kubuntu, just the driver package
[08:10] <DaSkreech> ah
[08:11] <Cruzader> I've never used it, but I hear envy is supposed to do that
[08:11] <DaSkreech> well you could install the package that does the restriced drivers install
[08:11] <Cruzader> looking it up now
[08:11] <nicolai_> RawSewage: KDE 4.0 alpha1 is for developers. It is so they can make the programs run for release in october.
[08:11] <FFForever> also, how can i make my own apt source/binary site?
[08:11] <RawSewage_> nicolai_: I know.  I was stupid to  do an alpha
[08:12] <RawSewage_> I learned my lesson
[08:12] <RawSewage_> Im waiting for final releases from now on
[08:12] <nicolai_> RawSewage_: Nah... you should just have used a live-cd for it ;)
[08:12] <nicolai_> RawSewage_: good idea
[08:12] <RawSewage_> yeah
[08:12] <FFForever> i am a developer :)
[08:12] <RawSewage_> I like how I can use my computer while doing a complete HD reformat and install of Kubuntu
[08:13] <FFForever> RawSewage_, how raw are you?
[08:13] <RawSewage_> what
[08:13] <ninina> Cruzader: if you find something tell me
[08:13] <RawSewage_> Ive used Kubuntu nearly a year now
[08:13] <FFForever> nice, i started on Christmas :D
[08:14] <FFForever> someone gave me a kubuntu cd for a present lol
[08:14] <RawSewage_> did you use only Windows before
[08:14] <FFForever> yeah :D
[08:15] <sssssss> hi
[08:15] <sssssss> can somebody hlp?
[08:15] <FFForever> maybe
[08:16] <nicolai_> Zabulus: you still here?
[08:16] <Cruzader> I have a .deb file... how do I run it through apt-get to do the depsolving?
[08:16] <Zabulus> yeah
[08:16] <Zabulus> dr-x------  1 root root    4.0K May 10 20:04 sda7
[08:16] <DaSkreech> !someone
[08:16] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:17] <FFForever> Cruzader, how can i make a deb from a tar.gz i downloaded?
[08:17] <sssssss> what is that pastebin domain? i forgt it
[08:17] <RawSewage_> pastebin.ca
[08:17] <Zabulus> !pastebin
[08:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:17] <Cruzader> um, im not sure... ive only ever done it with the kernel... I'm a fedora guy, i could walk you through the RPM making process :D
[08:18] <FFForever> i don't like fedora (lol)
[08:18] <FFForever> the community did not help me and was made up of a bunch of people who did not know anything and maybe 2 people who did
[08:18] <Zabulus> nicolai_: was that command supposed to give me ownership, or simply see who has ownership?
[08:19] <Cruzader> i guess it depends who you ask... ive found both communities (fedora and (k)ubuntu) to be helpful and knowledgable
[08:19] <nicolai_> Zabulus: the first command was supposed to give read/write/access the second to see if it worked :p
[08:19] <Cruzader> i like fedora because i like bleeding edge... specially with my laptop hardware where my wireless has only been supported in the most recent kernels
[08:21] <RawSewage_> Gutsy better have more new features for Kubuntu than Ubuntu
[08:21] <Zabulus> nicolai_: tried remounting, still getting same error
[08:21] <Lynoure> RawSewage_: what new features? Featuritis is hardly a goal
[08:21] <nicolai_> Zabulus: the problem is I haven't truly dealt with NTFS sinced I looked at my sisters computer a few months ago.
[08:21] <Zabulus> lol
[08:21] <ninina> yay nvidia works and now beryl works
[08:21] <FFForever> how do i make my own repo?
[08:21] <nicolai_> Zabulus: How did you set it to mount in the first place?
[08:21] <RawSewage_> Lynoure: Ubuntu got lots of new features in FEisty
[08:21] <Zabulus> i dont even remember anymore
[08:21] <Cruzader> what did you do ninina
[08:22] <nicolai_> hmm
[08:22] <Zabulus> i thought that it was taken care of, that it would auto mount
[08:22] <Lynoure> RawSewage_: yes, I noticed. Which of them did you want in Kubuntu?
[08:22] <Zabulus> then i reloaded, and it reverted
[08:22] <FFForever> how come there are no extra kde items like the main gnome version has, like the basic compiz loader/setup program
[08:22] <DaSkreech> ninina: what did you do?
[08:22] <RawSewage_> Lynoure: the RD Manager was nice
[08:22] <ninina> Cruzader: some long command given to me by someone in ubuntu-effects that made no sense to me
[08:23] <ninina> something about forcing it to create entries for 24 bit color
[08:23] <RawSewage_> Kubuntu people still have to manually edit xorg.conf
[08:23] <nicolai_> Zabulus: try unmountin then go to system settings -> advanced -> disk and filesystems
[08:23] <FFForever> but why?, are we unloved?
[08:23] <Cruzader> interesting
[08:24] <Cruzader> FFForever: Ubuntu gets more of the development time than Kubuntu
[08:24] <Lynoure> FFForever: because less of us have time for development
[08:24] <DaSkreech> ninina: there we go :)
[08:24] <Lynoure> FFForever: best way to change it is to get involved
[08:24] <Cruzader> and it can't generally use the same programs since KDE uses QT and not GTK
[08:24] <FFForever> so we are unloved lol
[08:24] <Zabulus> shows that the one i want to access is disabled
[08:24] <DaSkreech> ninina: tell them to wiki it ;)
[08:25] <ninina> DaSkreech: I will, it was wierd
[08:25] <nicolai_> Zabulus: good
[08:25] <FFForever> but ive loaded gtk programs in kde b4 :D
[08:25] <Cruzader> DaSkreech: do you know how to install a deb file through apt-get or apt-cache or something so it will dependency resolve?
[08:25] <nicolai_> Zabulus: delete/remove all infomation about it.
[08:25] <RawSewage_> Ok, all installed
[08:25] <Cruzader> yes, you can, but that is sub-optimal
[08:25] <ninina> DaSkreech: it was sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d24
[08:25] <RawSewage_> brb on my new install
[08:25] <Cruzader> that last bit was @FFForever
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Cruzader: sudo apt-get install package name
[08:26] <Cruzader> but if its a deb file i have locally...?
[08:26] <Cruzader> its not in the repos
[08:27] <DaSkreech> ah
[08:27] <nicolai_> Cruzader: have you tried   sudo apt-get install [folder/file] 
[08:27] <DaSkreech> umm
[08:28] <DaSkreech> well that' dpkg -i
[08:28] <Zabulus> do i have to log in as root to do so?
[08:28] <Cruzader> yeah but dpkg wont depsolve
[08:28] <DaSkreech> What does it need to resolve ?
[08:28] <zerothis> where would i go to get xmess help? specifically, kxmame doesn't work and cli xmess doesn't find my bios files
[08:28] <Cruzader> a bunch, but somehow it still installed...?
[08:28] <nicolai_> Zabulus: yes. Sorry. :)
[08:28] <Cruzader> im trying to install the envy script for graphics acceleration
[08:28] <nicolai_> Zabulus: only the drive that says "ntfs"
[08:29] <Cruzader> but that was for ninina and since they're working fine now i'll just stop asking questions
[08:29] <nicolai_> Zabulus: sda7? was that the name?
[08:32] <os2mac> I have a question about audioCD's in Kubuntu.. anyone got a minute?
[08:33] <nicolai_> os2mac: The person I helped seems to have left, so I'll hear you.
[08:36] <Zabulus> alright, it doesnt wanna let me log in as root
[08:36] <os2mac> when ever I put a CD into Kubuntu and I click on the audiocd icon that pops up on my desktop I get a file manager type view that appears to list the contents of the CD in multiple formats but when I put the same CD in a windows box it only sees the CDA files. Is this a CD thing or a Kubuntu thing?
[08:37] <nicolai_> os2mac: a Kubuntu thing. If you drop those files to your computer, Kubuntu should rip the CD encode the songs in that format.
[08:37] <os2mac> ahhh.
[08:37] <nicolai_> Zabulus: i thought you meant sudo ^^
[08:38] <os2mac> very handy but deceiving.... I was thinking this particular artist was just being cool... I had never seen that before.
[08:38] <Zabulus> how?
[08:39] <DaSkreech> os2mac: we apologize for KDE making you think that artist was cool :-(
[08:39] <os2mac> meh.
[08:39] <os2mac> :)
[08:39] <nicolai_> Zabulos: system settings -> advanced -> disk and filesystems -> admin
[08:40] <Zabulus> lol, no wonder, it wasnt popping up the pw prompt before
[08:40] <os2mac> he's still cool... just doesn't have the cool points he would have if he had actually stamped ogg vorbis versions of his song on his CD>
[08:40] <haydar_> My god.
[08:40] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:40] <nicolai_> Zabulos: I'm running the danish version of Kubuntu, so the names might vary slightly.
[08:40] <dododo> hi to all
[08:41] <Zabulus> thats ok, i havent updated my kubuntu in a while =P
[08:41] <nicolai_> Zabulos: it works now?
[08:41] <Zabulus> anyway, deleted the mount
[08:41] <dododo> can somebody help? im getting the following error when i try to install something with adept
[08:41] <dododo> http://pastebin.ca/498142 but the installation succseeds anyway
[08:42] <nicolai_> Zabulos: now in konsole type    sudo apt-get install sudo-config
[08:42] <nicolai_> sorry
[08:42] <nicolai_> Zabulos: now in konsole type    sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[08:43] <Zabulus> says it couldnt find the package
[08:43] <nicolai_> Zabulus: ntfs-config? You're running Dapper or Edgy?
[08:43] <Zabulus> dapper
[08:44] <Zabulus> should i just upgrade?
[08:44] <nicolai_> Zabulos: ntfs-config is only for feisty :/
[08:44] <DaSkreech> dododo: that's
[08:44] <Zabulus> so in other words, upgrade...
[08:44] <DaSkreech> "normal"
[08:44] <dododo> oh reall?
[08:45] <dododo> thx daskreech
[08:45] <dododo> but
[08:45] <dododo> im having a different problem
[08:45] <dododo> sometimes my machine is freezing after about 30 40 mins. i did memtest, its not the ram
[08:45] <nicolai_> Zabulus: You most likely have to for any easy configuration. I remember the hurdles I experienced getting read/write for NTFS back in Dapper
[08:45] <Zabulus> alright, whats the best way to upgrade? i dont care if i have to delete all the linux stuff, but i dont want to reformat the entire hd
[08:46] <ninina> what is a good music and/or media player
[08:47] <DaSkreech> dododo: ... I'd run in CLI to see if its' the machine or the GUI
[08:47] <nicolai_> Zabulus: updating dapper -> edgy would be necessary to go edgy -> feisty. Possible but probably not easy.
[08:47] <DaSkreech> n ot sure how comfortable you are to do that
[08:47] <Zabulus> should i just get the feisty download and start over?
[08:47] <dododo> well it seems it happens after a series of actions i do in the gui
[08:48] <nicolai_> Zabulus: I would get a Feisty live-cd and then when choosing a drive during install, choose manual.
[08:48] <dododo> like googling and updating or installing via adept
[08:48] <Zabulus> and then overwrite the current linux drives, got ya
[08:49] <dododo> and also sometimes the adept messege indicator is in a saeperate small window in the upper left corrner
[08:49] <nicolai_> Zabulus: remeber to set mountpoint for that drive as /
[08:49] <dododo> instead of in the systemtray
[08:49] <Zabulus> just /?
[08:49] <nicolai_> Zabulus: jep. It is what symbolises root
[08:50] <Zabulus> what about the other partitions?
[08:50] <nicolai_> Zabulus: then home will be /home/Zabulus
[08:50] <nicolai_> Zabulus: you only need one partition for the installation
[08:50] <nicolai_> Zabulus: the others will be left alone
[08:50] <Zabulus> yeah, but to make sure i can access everything later
[08:50] <nicolai_> Zabulus: ahh
[08:50] <Zabulus> such as the one i wasnt able to access tonigh
[08:50] <Zabulus> tonight*
[08:51] <Zabulus> that and i would like to have access to my windows partition just incase
[08:51] <Zabulus> (in case i get used to linux and want to delete windows, the fun way)
[08:51] <nicolai_> Zabulus: afterwards you do system settings for anything non-ntfs and ntfs-config for you know what.
[08:51] <KevinAlaska> Wow.. sweet to see so many people active online. of Course I have never been on this IRC channel.
[08:52] <Zabulus> alright, thanks nicolai
[08:52] <Zabulus> and now, i must say goodnight, 1 A.M.
[08:52] <nicolai_> Zabulus: If you at any time wants to delete windows, you can come back here. There will probably be many willing to help ;)
[08:52] <Zabulus> oh, im sure
[08:52] <dododo> is there a log file of akll kernel crashes or a log of why my machine sometimes is freezing?
[08:53] <Zabulus> but if i ever do (probably wont, will just make the windows smaller and smaller) ill probably just reformat entire hd
[08:54] <nicolai_> dododo: ati-graphics card with drivers installed or bad ram are the typical reasons for crashes in my experience
[08:54] <dododo> intel,kde,beryl, memtest is ok
[08:55] <nicolai_> dododo: ahh :P
[08:55] <KevinAlaska> Anyone know if KDE can do like Gnome does in that you can add different wallpapers to each desktop?
[08:55] <KevinAlaska> wait.. lol
[08:55] <Zabulus> alright, lets do a pre-emptive question, anyone had issues getting a soundblaster audigy 4 working with linux?
[08:55] <nicolai_> dododo: are you running beryl while you experience the troubles?
[08:55] <KevinAlaska> mixing up my questions. (palm to forhead)(
[08:55] <dododo> yes
[08:55] <dododo> yes im running beryl
[08:56] <dododo> i actually never tried it without beryl
[08:56] <Zabulus> and ive never actually tried beryl...i think im behind a little
[08:56] <dododo> once i had to delete my settings of berryl and emerald, i mean the conf files
[08:57] <nicolai_> dododo: I've tried that with beryl. It most likely isn't the kernel, but beryl crahing.
[08:57] <dododo> it must be the kernel
[08:57] <dododo> because i cant do anything
[08:57] <nicolai_> dododo: it replaces the the window manager kwin, with something that is far less stable.
[08:57] <dododo> the keyboard doesnt respond anybmore
[08:57] <Zabulus> is beryl worth it?
[08:57] <dododo> i cant even switch to a diferent console
[08:58] <dododo> even caps lock doesnt lit on anymore
[08:58] <nicolai_> dododo: I think all short-cut commands run through the window manager.
[08:58] <dododo> and and the only way is to reset with the reset button
[08:59] <nicolai_> Zabulus: not to me. Cube or Wall is nice, and widgets would be nice as well, but I'll just wait for KDE 4.0's implementation.
[08:59] <KevinAlaska> Ahh.. I remember my question.  :)  Is there a way (like GNOME) that KDE can keep all of the programs listed on the bar at the bottom (default location) to only show up when you have active the "Desktop" which that program is running on?  Did that make any sense?
[09:00] <Zabulus> sounds good to me, i probably wont want to mess with beryl yet anyway, still trying to learn all the other stuff
[09:00] <korobase> Where is the doc installation path in kubuntu by default?
[09:00] <dododo> thx 4 the help i will try without beryl and i will see if that was the problem i have to run now, see ya guys thx alot
[09:01] <korobase> Hi,all.I install a doc using the apt-get but I can't find it now.
[09:01] <Zabulus> ok, one more question before i go, how do i make sure both of my burners will work?
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> threaten them? :)
[09:02] <KevinAlaska> your burners that is
[09:02] <Zabulus> i should, but i dont have my whipe
[09:02] <Zabulus> jeez, i cant type right now
[09:02] <KevinAlaska> heh
[09:02] <nicolai_> Zabulus: They should work by default. If you're lucky, you can choose in k3b which one to use.
[09:02] <KevinAlaska> no worries. :) I cant spell normally
[09:02] <Zabulus> good
[09:02] <Zabulus> meh, been awake for the past 21 hours
[09:03] <KevinAlaska> doh!  SLEEP DAMN YOU! heh..
[09:03] <RawSewage> whats the official easy way to install Nvidia for Kubuntu
[09:03] <KevinAlaska> I can't do that anymore. =/
[09:03] <nicolai_> !nvidia
[09:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:03] <RawSewage> ty
[09:03] <Zabulus> im a little bit of an insomniac
[09:03] <Zabulus> that 12 hours of that 21 was working
[09:04] <KevinAlaska> I iked to use Automatix2 for installing those Nvidia drivers
[09:04] <RawSewage> I need to learn how
[09:04] <KevinAlaska> insomniac.. heh.. yeah. Coffee does that to me.
[09:04] <RawSewage> Automatix is too easy
[09:04] <ninina> oh noes...package overload =(
[09:04] <KevinAlaska> I have a link one second I will get it...
[09:04] <nicolai_> Zabulus: Try doing running some 12 kilometres, then take 21 hours more. I know a guy who tried that :P
[09:04] <nicolai_> Zabulus: Crazy bugger.
[09:05] <KevinAlaska> http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3648616185.html
[09:05] <KevinAlaska> this is a nice easy way to walk you through it... well for feisty anyhow
[09:05] <KevinAlaska> as well as other stuff
[09:05] <KevinAlaska> try some Meletonin
[09:05] <KevinAlaska> spelling??
[09:06] <nicolai_> RawSewage: don't use automatix, it messes up the system.
[09:06] <RawSewage> ok
[09:06] <KevinAlaska> some say that but I have only had good from it
[09:06] <RawSewage> yeah
[09:07] <KevinAlaska> yeah on what part?
[09:07] <RawSewage> both
[09:07] <RawSewage> Ive used Kubuntu for a year
[09:07] <RawSewage> so Ive heard both sides
[09:07] <RawSewage> I like doing things myself though
[09:07] <Zabulus> i think one of the worst ive done was awake for 54 or something hours, right before a vacation, spent most of it packing
[09:07] <RawSewage> and only installing a few things when I need them
[09:07] <RawSewage> do Uberman sleep
[09:07] <nicolai_> RawSewage: Install nvidia-glx
[09:08] <RawSewage> sleep 20  minutes every 4 hours
[09:08] <nicolai_> RawSewage: Then go to system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> configure -> proprietary
[09:08] <RawSewage> nicolai_, Im at that link you posted
[09:08] <Zabulus> i cant do that, it takes me more than 20 minutes to get to sleep
[09:08] <nicolai_> RawSewage: That is in my experience the easiest.
[09:08] <KevinAlaska> yeah I like to od them myself too.. but for me and in how I learn.  I want my up and running system "first" THEN... I like ot mess around and try to do things myself
[09:08] <KevinAlaska> I need my up and working puter first. :)
[09:08] <RawSewage> nicolai_, ok thx
[09:08] <RawSewage> Zabulus, you get adapted
[09:09] <Zabulus> trust me, ive tried, it doesnt work on me, i lay in bed for a few hours before i get to sleep someties
[09:09] <Zabulus> sometimes*
[09:09] <korobase> !doc
[09:09] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[09:09] <RawSewage> oh
[09:09] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: Yep. My way was to slowly go away from XP. That way nothing was of any pressing consern.
[09:10] <Zabulus> anyone know a program that can be used as an alarm clock by setting it to play a cd or something at a certain time?
[09:10] <RawSewage> KAlarm
[09:10] <vbgunz> anyone here know those buttons on your monitor than center and resize your screen? is there software that can do that?
[09:10] <Zabulus> yes, go away from xp/vista, so you dont pay $200+ for an operating system
[09:10] <Zabulus> and another 200+ for office
[09:10] <nicolai_> But do it in a way that does not produce backslash
[09:11] <KevinAlaska> Anyone know if there Is a way (like GNOME) that KDE can keep all of the programs listed on the bar at the bottom (default location) to only show up when you have active the "Desktop" which that program is running on?  Did that make any sense?
[09:11] <vbgunz> yeah, configure desktop I believe
[09:12] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: it makes sense to me, but I have no idea of how to do that
[09:12] <KevinAlaska> hummmm...
[09:12] <vbgunz> KevinAlaska: configure taskbar, taskbar
[09:13] <vbgunz> configure panel, taskbar
[09:13] <vbgunz> sorry
[09:13] <Zabulus> hmm, kalarm doesnt want to install
[09:14] <KevinAlaska> oh.. looking at the choices now.. :)
[09:14] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: you just right click on the panel
[09:14] <nicolai_> hehe
[09:14] <nicolai_> always two seconds too late, me
[09:15] <KevinAlaska> lol.. its the whole typing delay thing. :)
[09:15] <ionus> how t unrar rar arhive with password?
[09:16] <vbgunz> anyone here know those buttons on your monitor than center and resize your screen? is there software that can do that?
[09:17] <KevinAlaska> doh... which optin under the "taskbar" portion is it?
[09:17] <ionus> how t unrar rar arhive with password?
[09:17] <vbgunz> show windows from all desktops?
[09:17] <Zabulus> vbgunz: i wouldnt know, my monitor does that automatically
[09:17] <vbgunz> Zabulus: heh, my monitor sucks :(
[09:17] <KevinAlaska> DOH DOH DOH
[09:17] <KevinAlaska> got it
[09:17] <KevinAlaska> 3 seconds to late on that one. :)
[09:18] <vbgunz> heh
[09:18] <vbgunz> np :)
[09:18] <Zabulus> i like mine, i just press the auto button, but i usually dont even need to do that
[09:18] <nicolai_> ionus: If you downloaded a torrent, it's most likely a dud if it requires password.
[09:18] <KevinAlaska> I have not been up late yet today but I do have the excuse of simply just being me.
[09:18] <nicolai_> ionus: try installing 7-zip and unrar
[09:18] <vbgunz> my monitor sucks cause I have one user account at 1400x1050 but another account with 1024x768. the monitor doesnt automatically resize itself to flush with the edges :(
[09:19] <Zabulus> ouch
[09:19] <RawSewage> nicolai_, thx, that installed the NVidia drivers.  I guess I'll have to manually add my higher screen resolutions.   Ubuntu detected my screen resolutions with that RD Manager
[09:19] <KevinAlaska> okay how come the purdy little charm of a sound plays on this IRC and not on others?
[09:20] <nicolai_> RawSewage and vbgunz: in some cases Kubuntu doesn't quite do resolutions properly, my way of fixing it is by telling it the exact kind of screen (brand + version) I'm using
[09:21] <KevinAlaska> God I need a new monitor.  My sharpness just is not very good anymore. =/
[09:21] <RawSewage> nicolai_, how do you do that
[09:22] <Zabulus> so how do i get kalarm to play the cd i have in the comp now?
[09:22] <RawSewage> idk
[09:23] <Zabulus> do i set the action as a file or as a command!?!?! ahhhhh
[09:23] <RawSewage> amarok path/to/cd  ?
[09:24] <KevinAlaska> okay... LOTS of people online in here but vew chatting.  I am guessing they go afk from the IRC and just drop back in from time to time
[09:24] <nicolai_> RawSewage and vbgunz: Go to system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> monitor #1 -> config
[09:25] <RawSewage> nicolai_,  doh .. ok thx
[09:25] <Trickser> hi, yesterday i reported a problem after hibernation. I couldn't see my partitions after recovering, but then I used the utility testdisk and I could recover all the partitions except of the swap partitions. I had to recover the boot sector as well, using grub. Now I am monitoring my hard disk with smartmontools but it seems there are no problems in there. Is it possible that the hibernation could produce this?
[09:25] <RawSewage> I didnt even see that
[09:26] <Zabulus> Trickser: makes me think of a problem my brother had, with windows though, it went to hibernate and corrupted his hd.
[09:26] <Trickser> Zabulus: I think it is possible because hibernations uses the swap partition
[09:27] <nicolai_> Trickser: hibernation writes to hd, so anything could happen to the partitions if something goes bad.
[09:27] <Zabulus> i stopped allowing any computer i had access to go into hibernation after that
[09:28] <Zabulus> caused too much trouble
[09:28] <RawSewage> nicolai_, thanks a lot.  it's all working now
[09:28] <Trickser> I am telling this, because yesterday someone told me that it is unprobable that this is produced by the hibernation, and that probably my hard disk is failing, but my hard disk is almost new and it seems to be ok, according to smartmontools
[09:29] <nicolai_> RawSewage: no problem. I've tried having Kubuntu decide my resolution was either 800x600 or 640x400, so I learned the hard way. :)
[09:29] <KevinAlaska> well mechanical errors can happen at ANY time but the most common time is in the early days of usage
[09:30] <RawSewage> nicolai_, I used to have to search the web for my monitor type , write down the name, refresh rates, etc , and do it manually
[09:31] <nicolai_> RawSewage: I tend to avoid messing with the config files unless I know every consequence. I had to do stuff like what you did back when i used Suse, and it always failed.
[09:32] <KevinAlaska> When is KDE 4.0 'supposed' to be released?
[09:32] <RawSewage> October
[09:32] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: 23 october
[09:32] <KevinAlaska> Ah.. :) nifty!  Thx
[09:33] <nicolai_> four or five days after Kubuntu 7.10 :/
[09:33] <RawSewage> that sucks
[09:33] <KevinAlaska> anything R E A L L Y cool supposed to happen with KDE 4.0?
[09:34] <RawSewage> it's all under the hood
[09:34] <RawSewage> it wont be really cool until developers start programming with the new tools
[09:34] <RawSewage> the first release will probably be just like KDE 3.5
[09:34] <nicolai_> yeah, but Jonathan Riddel usually makes new kde releases available for us anyway
[09:34] <KevinAlaska> really... AWE!!!! I W A N T performance and as well as the nifty 'eye candy'!!!
[09:34] <RawSewage> I wouldnt expect much from the first release
[09:35] <nicolai_> RawSewage: It will all be svg files and oxygen icons
[09:35] <nicolai_> RawSewage: And it sounds like plasma is coming along nicely
[09:35] <KevinAlaska> but if I don't expect MUCH then how in the hell do you expect me to get dissapointed?  :P
[09:35] <nicolai_> RawSewage: I've also seen some good stuff from kwin
[09:36] <dsmith_> how does one allow themself to read/write a specific folder
[09:36] <nicolai_> RawSewage: A new filesystem manager (dolphin)
[09:36] <nicolai_> RawSewage: Amarok 2.0
[09:36] <nicolai_> many changes in 'over the hood' :P
[09:36] <KevinAlaska> woot!   /dance
[09:36] <nicolai_> The alpha was just out too early
[09:36] <RawSewage> but we wont get it until next April
[09:36] <dsmith_> Make sure you give yourself read and write access to /dev/vboxdrv.
[09:37] <korobase> How to get the package imformation installed?
[09:37] <dsmith_> I am playing with virtuallbox
[09:37] <KevinAlaska> how come NTFS is not native yet for Linux?
[09:37] <dsmith_> ask bill gates
[09:37] <mokkan> no..
[09:37] <korobase> Hehe.
[09:37] <dsmith_> ext3 is better anyhow
[09:37] <KevinAlaska> lol.. okay then
[09:37] <nicolai_> RawSewage: KDE always makes a repository for Kubuntu with the newest stable release.
[09:37] <KevinAlaska> why is ext3 better?
[09:37] <korobase> How to get the package imformation installed?
[09:37] <dsmith_> i have a writeup on ntfs vs. ext3
[09:37] <dsmith_> one sec
[09:38] <mokkan> ext3 is better because linux uses it zomg
[09:38] <ninina> how do I find out how much of my diskspace is used?
[09:38] <korobase> df -a
[09:38] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: ntfs-3g can write to ntfs, but is not considered stable enough for official release
[09:38] <korobase> ninina: df -a
[09:38] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: I've never heard of problems though
[09:38] <KevinAlaska> O.O EGADS!!! dont you know I am to much the linux newbie for you to be using big words of terminology on me.. :)
[09:38] <ninina> thanks
[09:39] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: hehe. If you're on feisty and haven't messed with the ntfs drive type the following
[09:39] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[09:39] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: sudo ntfs-config
[09:40] <ninina> thanks korobase
[09:40] <Fri13> nicolai_: ntfs-3g has gone stable few months ago....
[09:40] <KevinAlaska> yeah.. thats the program... writting it down
[09:40] <KevinAlaska> yeah.. I thought I read it was FINALLY said to be stable
[09:40] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: A window will pop up asking if you want read/write for internal or external devices.
[09:40] <KevinAlaska> just today in fact.  I can't remember where I read it online..
[09:41] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: Choose internal. external should already work.
[09:41] <Zabulus> jeez, how do you get kalarm to play an audio file??
[09:41] <KevinAlaska> thats it?  sounds too easy?
[09:41] <nicolai_> Zabulus: it must be three in the night for you by now... just go to sleep! :P
[09:41] <RawSewage> for disk space, I like using kdf , and running kwikdisk from it in the tray
[09:41] <dsmith_> this is not based on file systems, but was what I was thinking when you asked why ext3 is better
[09:41] <dsmith_> http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/defragment/index.php
[09:41] <Zabulus> no, its only 1:45, not 3....
[09:42] <KevinAlaska> oh.. is there a reason my "volume" is so much lower then when I am in WinXP?
[09:42] <Zabulus> im not helping myself, am i?
[09:42] <dsmith_> how does one allow themself to read/write a specific folder
[09:42] <KevinAlaska> oh. thanks for the link.. I think I will check it out now .... while I use my ADD skills to multitask with my chatting. ;)
[09:42] <nicolai_> Zabulus: so you're on the american west-coast?
[09:42] <dsmith_> welcome :)
[09:43] <Fri13> STABLE Version 1.0 (February 21, 2007)  Thats date when NTFS-3G hit to stable state. After that there has be bugfixes.
[09:43] <dsmith_> i dont trust that yet to use it
[09:43] <dsmith_> hehe
[09:43] <Zabulus> close
[09:44] <nicolai_> dsmith_: sudo chmod 777 [folder] 
[09:44] <KevinAlaska> I need to increase the text size in this program wiht my higher rez sec.. my eyes are having a hard time reading this.. heh.
[09:44] <nicolai_> dsmith_: might not work for ntfs
[09:44] <dsmith_> oh damn I thought it was chroot
[09:44] <dsmith_> ok...
[09:44] <dsmith_> see what happens when I dont use a cmd after sometime
[09:44] <dsmith_> I forgets
[09:44] <dsmith_> thx nicolai
[09:45] <nicolai_> dsmith_: if you need read/write for subfolders use     sudo chmod -R [folder] 
[09:45] <tahsin> can anyone help me install a grub boot slash theme ?
[09:45] <dsmith_> this is a protected file for virtualbox
[09:45] <Fri13> nicolai_: " Most POSIX file system operations are supported, with the exception of full file ownership and access right support."
[09:45] <nicolai_> dsmith_: if you own the folder yourself (not owned by root or other user) then there is a graphical way to do it too
[09:45] <Zabulus> dammit, kalarms gonna drive me nuts
[09:45] <tahsin> nicolai_ can you help me install a grub boot slash theme ?
[09:46] <KevinAlaska> okay okay.. how do you use this IRC in Kopete to get the name of the person you are responding to to show up in your text when you hit enter to submit your text... Now I KNOW you are not all typing that.. heh
[09:47] <tahsin> can anyone help me install a grub boot slash theme ?
[09:47] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: i just use my mouse to highlight and say copy text
[09:47] <nicolai_> KevinAlaska: though I guess I could drag-drop :/
[09:48] <KevinAlaska> NOO!! Drag drop is too easy.. Dont you ever go the eary route... always ALWAYS take the hard road... that what I dont feel alone. ;/
[09:48] <Chani> ssh -D is working for my friend, but not for me, and I don't know why. google hasn't turned up any results - but I'm seeing a censored version of google because I don't have ssh -D working yet. anyone have any ideas?
[09:48] <korobase> !adept crash
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <MrBougo> !adept
[09:48] <korobase> !adept installer crash
[09:48] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:48] <MrBougo> !adeptfix
[09:48] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:48] <MrBougo> maybe
[09:48] <nicolai_> tahsin: Have you looked at system settings -> splash?
[09:49] <korobase> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:49] <nicolai_> tahsin: I've never done any changes to splash, so I don't know
[09:49] <korobase> it doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:49] <KevinAlaska> good article DSmith.. thanks.. not finished yet but working on it.. slowly.. ever soooo slowly
[09:49] <Fri13> nicolai_: ever heard paint'n'click copy?
[09:49] <tahsin> nicolai_ not splash screen i mean boot splash i want to change the appreance of grub
[09:49] <Cugel> korobase: what error do you get?
[09:50] <nicolai_> korobase: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:50] <tahsin> ok
[09:50] <nicolai_> korobase: dpkg --configure -a
[09:51] <nicolai_> tahsin: I think I saw a guide for that on ubuntuforums
[09:51] <KevinAlaska> Doh.. son fell asleep on the chair.  I need to transport my spawn. be back in a few
[09:51] <nicolai_> tahsin: try searching there
[09:51] <Zabulus> HA, got kalarm to play my music!!!
[09:51] <Cugel> _Why_ would anyone want to change the boot menu layout?
[09:52] <nicolai_> Cugel: because they like pretty? :P
[09:52] <Cugel> My grub menu is shown for about 2 seconds, no dual-boot, so I guess there's just no need. Besides I never reboot.
[09:52] <Fri13> Cugel: mayby because they like to make things like they want it to be? thats why there is reason for GNU/Linux too....
[09:52] <nicolai_> Suse has one that is fairly good.
[09:53] <fdoving> Cugel: it's rather easy, so why not do it, installing kubuntu-grub-splashimages is a breeze.
[09:53] <Zabulus> alright, NOW im actually going to sleep
[09:53] <Zabulus> and its only 2 am, thats pretty good for me
[09:53] <Cugel> Yeah I know about the whole config thing. But next thing he'll follow that tutorial and run in here complaining about a non-working grub. We've seen it happen (Beryl, anyone?)
[09:54] <nicolai_> Cugel: I have an old Dapper install on another harddisk, so I see it on the desktop about seven times a week :P
[09:54] <Cugel> Still, I did change my splash login thing, it looks very pretty now.
[09:56] <Fri13> Cugel: If user runs to problems, there is two reasons for it, a) User use old tutorial/tip b) User dont follow tutorial right.
[09:56] <michael__> whats the command to find a gpg key for a source in apt-get?
[09:57] <nicolai_> Fri13: c) tutorial makes assuptions about user that is incorrect.
[09:57] <Cugel> Fri: c) User has a configuration that differs from the one the tutorial was written for.  -- Take dual-screen support, or mouse support for example.
[09:57] <Fri13> And what ever there happends, user just has right to configure everything how he liks to have, atleast user learn something (or not!) from it. Customizing is key for linux success.
[09:57] <Cugel> Oh, that makes my reason d)
[09:57] <Cugel> But still, I agree with youl.
[09:59] <nicolai_> On general, I would say you shouldn't configure something if you have _no_ idea what you're doing.
[09:59] <nicolai_> But that is mostly a personal rule.
[09:59] <Cugel> Agreed. You'll regret it later. Actually this is the same for Windows.
[09:59] <fdoving> nicolai_: how would you ever learn something then? :)
[09:59] <nicolai_> Too many tutorials, too much pain :P
[10:00] <Fri13> nicolai_: ...shouldn't configure anything if user dont have any brains and just copy-paste everything what someone says.... ;-)
[10:00] <nicolai_> fdoving: by either finding out what you're doing or going slowly
[10:01] <fdoving> nicolai_: trail and error, and break and fix are two great learning methods :)
[10:01] <Cugel> What helps is just doing a little background checking on any reported problems etc. The ubuntuforum pages are very, very useful for that.
[10:01] <nicolai_> When you suddenly get a blank screen because you got stuck in a text only-mode with no other computer to get help from.
[10:02] <fdoving> nicolai_: then you have the livecd around.
[10:02] <nicolai_> Then configuration doesn't sound like such a good idea  :P
[10:02] <Fri13> When user likes to play with configs, he/she should learn few things first. a) How to bring network up on console b) How to user text-browser c) how to use irssi d) how to use vi/nano/pico e) how to do backups and restore them.
[10:02] <nicolai_> fdoving: true - but this is still where the backlash kicks in for many newbies
[10:03] <gregX> Hi.
[10:03] <Fri13> hi
[10:03] <gregX> How are you?
[10:04] <michael__> crap
[10:04] <nicolai_> fdoving: besides. The ubuntu (999) user can really wreck a system if you do something dumb.
[10:04] <michael__> can someone tell me what to do with a .gpg fil
[10:04] <michael__> file
[10:04] <michael__> i need to use it so apt-get will let me use this source
[10:04] <fdoving> nicolai_: uid 1000, can, with sudo, yes.
[10:05] <fdoving> michael__: you need to add it to the keyring, 'sudo apt-key add file.gpg'
[10:05] <michael__> alrite, thanks
[10:07] <nicolai_> fdoving: It really depends on whether you need a stable production system or a computer that can have downtime.
[10:07] <KevinAlaska> EGADS!  10 min past 12am.  I best get some sleep.  So I am off like a wild herd of turtles.  best wishes everyone and thank you for the awesome help.
[10:08] <RawSewage> Im having a problem.  whenever I try to add the desktop-pager applet to the taskbar, kicker crashes
[10:08] <fdoving> nicolai_: if you -need- a stable production system you know you need it. if you -wanting- one is another thing, and it is often not compatible with fancy graphics and such.
[10:08] <fdoving> RawSewage: is that the same applet each time?
[10:08] <RawSewage> fdoving, yes
[10:08] <fdoving> RawSewage: tried another applet?
[10:08] <RawSewage> fdoving, no, I'll try it now
[10:09] <fdoving> RawSewage: what applet is this crashing one?
[10:09] <nicolai_> fdoving: true, but if you _want_ a stable system, but has no experience on the follies of following tutorials, then you might go back to windows, and that is not in the interest of fixing bug #1 :P
[10:10] <RawSewage> fdoving, this time I tried the Sound Mixer applet and it put a row of things on the taskbar that looks like a keyboard
[10:10] <fdoving> RawSewage: ok, so that works. (those "keys" are actually channels in the mixer)
[10:10] <RawSewage> Clock, Find  applets work fine
[10:11] <RawSewage> fdoving, is the SoundMixer applet supposed to be like  that
[10:12] <fdoving> RawSewage: yes.
[10:12] <RawSewage> oh, Im thinking of KMix
[10:12] <fdoving> yeah, that's not an applet.
[10:12] <RawSewage> anyway, Desktop pager is crashing it
[10:12] <fdoving> oh.
[10:12] <tri> i'm editing a file in my command terminal, but i don't know how to save and exit it
[10:13] <tri> ?
[10:13] <fdoving> tri, probably ctrl+x and answer Yes to the question.
[10:13] <nicolai_> tri: I would use    sudo kate [file-location] 
[10:13] <fdoving> nicolai_: kdesu is prefered for graphical applications.
[10:14] <Chani> RawSewage: using compiz or something?
[10:14] <tri> fdoving: it brought me into something called x mode
[10:14] <RawSewage> Chani, no, but I installed Nvidia driver and I changed my screen res using nvidia-settings
[10:15] <RawSewage> Chani, other than that, this is a brand new install
[10:15] <Chani> huh
[10:15] <fdoving> RawSewage: you can try to remove the pager configs from ~/.kde/share/config/minipager_panelapplet*
[10:15] <RawSewage> ok
[10:16] <RawSewage> oh yeah
[10:16] <RawSewage> I remember what else I did
[10:16] <tri> nicolai: sudo katE? i'm currently in "insert" mode
[10:16] <RawSewage> I restored the default KDE Konq settings
[10:16] <Lilacor> !wireless
[10:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:16] <fdoving> tri, vim?
[10:16] <RawSewage> and didnt do the last step
[10:16] <tri> nicolai: i'm using the feisty mix
[10:16] <RawSewage> I have to download those 4 profiles or something
[10:17] <tri> fdoving: vim
[10:17] <tri> ?
[10:17] <tri> fdoving: i'm editing a sh file
[10:17] <fdoving> tri, with vim?
[10:18] <blackdiamond> hi evertbody, i write yesterday for a problem link with the installation of a programm Folding@home, .exe. As you said I made the file executable, now I have to move it and install..what I have to do..I'm new.I downloaded the file in a folder "Programmi" in my desktop, what I have to do to install this program? What do you would do?
[10:18] <fdoving> tri, the editor, is it nano or vim?
[10:19] <tri> fdoving: it's konsole?
[10:19] <tri> fdoving: sorry i'm a new to all of this
[10:19] <fdoving> tri, yes, what command did you write to open the editor to edit the sh file?
[10:20] <tri> fdoving: oh, it is vim, oops
[10:20] <ubunturos> help - /usr/bin/X11/X/xserverrc has a command that includes specifying the DPI as 100. If I change this file and set the dpi as 72, would there be some problem?
[10:20] <ubunturos> !Xorg
[10:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:20] <fdoving> blackdiamond: the folding at home exe is a binary ready to start. if i have a folder in my home named 'folding' where i have the file and run folding from. so if you want to run this inside the Programmi folder, open a console, cd to the folder, chmod +x FAH..exe then ./FAH..exe to start it.
[10:21] <fdoving> tri, ok hit escape, write :wq and press enter.
[10:21] <blackdiamond> ok fdoving, i'll try
[10:21] <RawSewage> Ok, it's fixed
[10:23] <ubunturos> !xserverrrc
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserverrrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <tri> fdoving: whew, works! thanks!
[10:23] <fdoving> tri, you're welcome.
[10:24] <fdoving> RawSewage: did you do anything else but remove the configs?
[10:24] <ubunturos> help - /usr/bin/X11/X/xserverrc has a command that includes specifying the DPI as 100. If I change this file and set the dpi as 72, would there be some problem?
[10:24] <tri> does anyone know how to resize a secondary kde panel?
[10:24] <tri> feisty doesn't seem to have a way like the other releases had
[10:24] <fdoving> ubunturos: there is no such file on my system, are you sure you got the path right?
[10:24] <RawSewage> fdoving,  I was restoring the default Konq settings, and forgot to download and add the 4 extra profiles   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307576&highlight=restore+kde+settings
[10:24] <ubunturos> fdoving: I'm on kubuntu 6.06
[10:25] <fdoving> RawSewage: ah, ok.
[10:25] <ubunturos> fdoving: and I'm sure, this file exists on my computer
[10:25] <ubunturos> fdoving: see this folder/etc/X11/xinit
[10:25] <ubunturos> fdoving: see this folder  /etc/X11/xinit
[10:25] <fdoving> ubunturos: ah, that explains it. i don't have 6.06 around. sorry, but generally, no, that shouldn't break anything. make a backup of the file in it's current state, just in case.
[10:26] <ubunturos> fdoving: ok
[10:26] <ubunturos> thanks
[10:43] <lupul> hi there. does anyone know how do i specify the port in ssh?
[10:43] <lupul> it's not written in the man or help
[10:43] <crimsun> do you mean openssh-client or openssh-server?
[10:44] <lupul> client
[10:44] <fdoving> -p
[10:44] <crimsun> hint, use `ssh'
[10:44] <crimsun>            [-l login_name]  [-m mac_spec]  [-O ctl_cmd]  [-o option]  [-p port] 
[10:44] <fdoving> scp uses -P
[10:44] <fdoving> (that confuses me sometimes)
[10:45] <crimsun> I don't recommend the use of scp.  Use `rsync --rsh=ssh' instead.
[10:45] <lupul> trhanks
[10:45] <lupul> i managed to connect
[10:48] <lupul> crimsun - could you help me with another thing?
[10:48] <crimsun> we can try.
[10:48] <lupul> how do i see in proftpd which users have activity?
[10:48] <lupul> what do they download and at which speed?
[10:49] <fdoving> lupul: ftpwho or ftptop maybe?
[10:49] <lupul> thanks
[10:49] <lupul> but where do you find these commands
[10:49] <lupul> i read in the man but did'n find it
[10:49] <lupul> maybe cause it was toooo long
[10:49] <fdoving> should come with the proftpd package.
[10:50] <fdoving> proftpd: /usr/bin/ftpwho
[10:50] <tri> does anyone know how to resize a secondary kde panel in feisty?
[10:52] <lupul> yep
[10:53] <pag> tri, I guess it's only possible via kcontrol (you can open it by pressing alt+f2 and typing: kcontrol  )
[10:53] <lupul> tri - right click on the panel - configure panels - arrangement - up you have a button with main panel. select secondarty panel and then resize
[10:54] <lupul> nope. sorry. works only for the external taskbar
[10:55] <luke_sean> Hi this is luke i am 9 years old, i love using kubutu (australia)
[10:58] <luke_sean> anne_ : hi
[10:59] <anne_> luke_sean: hi
[10:59] <tri> pag, where do i change it in kcontrol
[11:00] <pag> tri, Desktop -> panels
[11:00] <luke_sean> anne _ : hi i am 9 years old, my uncle has kubuntu
[11:01] <sercik> Hi, could someone help me to add a command to cron?
[11:01] <sercik> i need to run a dyndns client on my linux box
[11:02] <RawSewage> what do you need to know
[11:02] <anne_> luke_sean: So do you like it?
[11:02] <luke_sean>      yes
[11:02] <haydar_> Anyone got a fix for push to talk
[11:02] <haydar_> ventrilo wine 2.1.4
[11:04] <anne_> I have use it few months now and i like it very much :)
[11:06] <haydar_> Hmm this is strange
[11:06] <haydar_> haydar@haydar-desktop:~$ echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[11:06] <haydar_> bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Toegang geweigerd
[11:07] <haydar_> Need fix for this XD
[11:07] <anne_> luke_sean: I gotta go, it's my turn to cook.. see you later!
[11:07] <stevec_> whats toegang gewigerd mean?
[11:07] <haydar_> Access denied
[11:07] <luke_sean> anne_ : ok bye
[11:07] <stevec_> haydar_: try putting sudo infront of the command
[11:07] <haydar_> same error
[11:07] <stevec_> hmmm thats odd
[11:08] <stevec_> yeah i get the same on mine
[11:08] <haydar_> Without it
[11:08] <haydar_> i cant have Teamspeak / ventrilo on
[11:08] <haydar_> and ET
[11:08] <stevec_> with and without
[11:08] <haydar_> strage
[11:09] <haydar_> same error on root
[11:09] <stevec_> haydar_: works if I su to root first
[11:09] <haydar_> did it
[11:09] <stevec_> haydar_: very odd
[11:10] <haydar_> =( yep
[11:10] <haydar_> Creative Soundblaster Audigy
[11:10] <haydar_> Music + Enemy-territory works
[11:10] <stevec_> why would work as root but as normal user using sudo?
[11:10] <stevec_> not as noamrl user
[11:10] <haydar_> nah i tried
[11:10] <haydar_> both didnt work
[11:10] <haydar_> Access denied
[11:11] <stevec_> haydar_: have you 'su' first
[11:11] <stevec_> not sudo just su to root
[11:11] <haydar_> hmm ok
[11:11] <stevec_> haydar_: you may have to set a password on the root account first 'sudo passwd root'
[11:11] <kraut> moin
[11:11] <haydar_> Well i already got a  password
[11:12] <stevec_> haydar_: ok type 'su' and it'l change you to root, your prompt will change
[11:12] <haydar_> Yep i see
[11:13] <stevec_> haydar_: then type that command, it should work
[11:13] <haydar_> it worked
[11:13] <stevec_> haydar_: :-)
[11:13] <haydar_> xD
[11:14] <haydar_> But still no sound
[11:14] <haydar_> @ ET
[11:14] <stevec_> anyone any ideas why that woulnd't work under sudo?
[11:14] <stevec_> haydar_: been a long time since inplayed with sound, et and teakspeak, was on gentoo when i tried it and never got it working
[11:16] <TiLK> Hello. Could you recommand me some apt sources for Kubuntu 7.07 ? I installed some programs and I have problems with dependences, cause some of my libraries are old and there are no new in my oficial ources.
[11:16] <crimsun> stevec_: redirection doesn't work like that with sudo.
[11:16] <stevec_> crimsun: ah right ok, should have realised that really :-s
[11:16] <crimsun> stevec_: `echo foo|sudo tee'  is what you want.
[11:16] <TiLK> libmysqlclient15off,  libwxgtk2.6-0, python-gammu
[11:17] <stevec_> crimsun: cheers
[11:17] <crimsun> echo et.x86 0 0 direct|sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[11:17] <stevec_> silly question really, just got out of bed :-)
[11:18] <RawSewage> is it ok to use sudo .  I dont want to get sued by Microsoft
[11:18] <stevec_> ??
[11:18] <maop> hello all.
[11:19] <stevec_> hi maop
[11:19] <stevec_> RawSewage: dont understand your question?
[11:19] <crimsun> RawSewage: no, definitely not.  We're all going to jail.
[11:19] <RawSewage> Microsoft is trying to patent/own sudo
[11:19] <RawSewage> lol
[11:19] <maop> Does someone know how to configure X to have Opengl with mesa, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt do it like when installing for first time
[11:23] <maop> i need to know which program configures the x server when installing kubuntu, to run it again
[11:24] <RawSewage> I did that once, but forgot the name
[11:27] <maop> RawSewage: how whas the name like?
[11:28] <RawSewage> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[11:31] <youbuntu> j
[11:31] <maop> RawSewage: i tried that, but i doesn't configures 3d rendering with mesa thats what i need
[11:31] <stevec_> k
[11:32] <RawSewage> maop, oops, sorry
[11:32] <Moduliz0r> What tool can I use to rip CDs to MP3s?
[11:33] <RawSewage> kaudiocreator ?
[11:33] <Moduliz0r> is it included with ubuntu or do I need to download it?
[11:33] <RawSewage> I think thats what I used.  it worked good
[11:33] <stevec_> amarok?
[11:33] <heinkel_111> Moduliz0r: you can use konqueror
[11:33] <Moduliz0r> how?
[11:34] <stevec_> yeah konq is probably the best option
[11:34] <heinkel_111> Moduliz0r: just open the CD in konqueror
[11:34] <Moduliz0r> I don't have konqueror i think
[11:34] <Moduliz0r> I stick with nautilus
[11:34] <stevec_> just browse to your cd and it'll give you options to rip mp3s or wav
[11:34] <maop> RawSewage: thanks anyway
[11:34] <heinkel_111> Moduliz0r: then go to mp3 folder and paste files where you want them
[11:34] <Moduliz0r> k ill try it
[11:35] <heinkel_111> if you have kubuntu you have konqueror
[11:35] <heinkel_111> if you don't have kubuntu maybe ask in a different channe?
[11:35] <Peaker> hey anyone using gutsy?
[11:35] <RawSewage> lol
[11:35] <Moduliz0r> I have ubuntu studio but I cant seem to get support in #ubuntu
[11:36] <stevec_> Moduliz0r: acidrip?
[11:36] <stevec_> ah no thats for dvds!!
[11:36] <Moduliz0r> xD
[11:36] <Peaker> KDE seems quite broken in Gutsy Gibbon :)
[11:36] <Moduliz0r> ill try all of these things in a bit, thanks guys
[11:38] <Moduliz0r> "Couldn't display "cdda:///dev/scd0"."
[11:38] <Moduliz0r> "There was an error launching the application."
[11:38] <Moduliz0r> wtf
[11:39] <Moduliz0r> why wont it open the cd :/
[11:39] <lupul> how do i change the permissions to a partiton?
[11:40] <lupul> to let everyone read only, except me which i am the owner
[11:40] <DJServers> hi all
[11:40] <stevec_> lupul: man chmod
[11:40] <DJServers> how can i put a map in the /etc/ ??
[11:41] <stevec_> DJServers: what kind of map?
[11:41] <DJServers> wel i want to put a map in /etc/apache2/ and that is a map whit the site file's in it
[11:43] <DJServers> does someone now how?
[11:43] <DJServers> !/etc/
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etc/ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <DJServers> !etc
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <stevec_> DJServers: sorry, not quite understanding what you are wanting to do, /etc/apache2 should conatin the config files for spache
[11:43] <stevec_> apache even
[11:44] <carlesoriol> Ubuntu Catalan Loco Team is doing an InstallParty. You can see it at: mplayer http://videoserver.ac.upc.es:920 and http://videoserver.ac.upc.es:921
[11:44] <DJServers> yeah where do i put my map (php-files) in apache to run it on it so i have the site?
[11:44] <Moduliz0r> what do I need to get with apt-get for the lame encoder which works with KAudioCreator?
[11:44] <stevec_> not sure on ubuntu, on gentoo it was /var/lib/www/localhost/htdocs
[11:45] <DJServers> wait i take a look
[11:45] <iarwain_> DJServers: if memory serves me correctly, it would be in "/var/www/apache2-default'
[11:46] <stevec_> DJServers: try reading /etc/apache2/README
[11:46] <DJServers> o yeah it is!
[11:46] <DJServers> wait a sec
[11:46] <RawSewage> whats that thing I need for video thumbnails again
[11:47] <RawSewage> it's a name like ALSA
[11:47] <RawSewage> but for video
[11:48] <iarwain_> anyone know why my internet (wireless) keeps dropping? (amsn and konversation keep reconnecting)
[11:48] <Moduliz0r> ALVA?
[11:48] <RawSewage> no
[11:49] <iarwain_> gstreamer? (don't know what you're exactly looking for)
[11:49] <DJServers> you do not have write permissions to this folder its says what now?
[11:49] <RawSewage> maybe artS
[11:50] <iarwain_> DJServers: try a 'sudo cp' (or open konqueror with root permissions)
[11:50] <RawSewage> libarts1-xine
[11:50] <DJServers> how to open konqueror with root?
[11:50] <DJServers> permissons
[11:50] <RawSewage> isntall libarts1-xine and you get video thumnails in Konq
[11:50] <iarwain_> DJServers: Alt-F2 => run as other user
[11:51] <DJServers> what do i type in that box
[11:51] <stevec_> konqueror
[11:52] <DJServers> is it than whit root permissions?
[11:52] <stevec_> select root in run as other user
[11:52] <iarwain_> DJServers: if you 'run as other usrer', enter root and your root pw
[11:52] <DJServers> o ok
[11:52] <DJServers> i get iot
[11:52] <pilucco> Buongiorno a tutti
[11:52] <stevec_> DJServers: or change the ownership of the directory your web docs are going into
[11:53] <iarwain_> !it | pilucco
[11:53] <ubotu> pilucco: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:53] <DJServers> it works thx all
[11:53] <iarwain_> pilucco: hiya =)
[11:53] <pilucco> i'm sorry,tanks
[11:57] <Moduliz0r> if I get konqueror and I like it, how can I make it my default file browser instead of nautilus?
[11:59] <pag> Moduliz0r, in KDE - yes, but I'm afraid you're using Gnome (it's Ubuntu Studio -default) and there it's quite hard, or might even be impossible
[11:59] <Moduliz0r> k
[11:59] <DJServers> what is the standaard pass of phpmyadmin  account: root ?
[12:00] <pag> Moduliz0r, of course you can use it, there'll be (almost) no problems with that, but I think you can't set it to be default
[12:00] <Moduliz0r> ok
[12:02] <Moduliz0r> hmm
[12:02] <Moduliz0r> is GRip any good?
[12:03] <RawSewage> how do you get video thumnails in konq
[12:03] <RawSewage> I installed libarts1-xine
[12:05] <Moduliz0r> whats a good encoding bitrate?
[12:05] <Moduliz0r> is 192 ok?
[12:06] <pag> Moduliz0r, 192 or 256 should be fine. I wouldn't reccomend any less than 192.
[12:06] <Moduliz0r> k
[12:07] <Fri13> Moduliz0r: use kaffeine to rip CD:s
[12:07] <Fri13> unless you use gnome
[12:09] <Moduliz0r> yay Grip is good
[12:12] <close2__> hello, i would need some ideas how to debug the following problems
[12:13] <close2__> my computer boots fine from cd, but takes ~10 minutes when booting from my hd
[12:14] <DJServers> !mysql
[12:14] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:14] <close2__> here's what i've done until now: rm quiet splash from grub -> system hangs twice: "reading files needed to boot" and "Preparing restriced drivers" (or something similar)
[12:15] <close2__> running badblocks right now, but everything looks fine; dmesg didn't help either
[12:15] <close2__> how do i find out, why my system hangs?
[12:17] <haydar_> Hmm
[12:17] <haydar_> now i have lost complete sound
[12:17] <haydar_> on ET
[12:17] <haydar_> damn
[12:20] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[12:20] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:20] <DJServers> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)    What now ?? :(
[12:20] <stevec_> !windows
[12:20] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:21] <age> hi here
[12:21] <age> i ran into serious problems so i startet with the kubuntu livecd
[12:22] <age> now im trying to write a new partition table
[12:22] <age> but it does not seem to work
[12:22] <age> http://nopaste.com/p/aRLYz3i3Y
[12:22] <DJServers> !ERROR 2002
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error 2002 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <DJServers> !ERROR 2002 (HY000)
[12:24] <stevec_> age: are you booting from the livecd when you are trying to re-partition?
[12:24] <age> yes i am
[12:24] <age> and no harddisk is mounted
[12:25] <age> i checked it with sudo mount
[12:25] <stevec_> age: thats very strange
[12:25] <stevec_> DJServers: is mysql started?
[12:25] <age> that is actually the reason why im here
[12:26] <stevec_> age: could you have a bad harddisk maybe?
[12:26] <age> i checked it several times with fsck and e2fsck and the smart values seem to be good too
[12:27] <age> no errors occured during this
[12:27] <stevec_> age: and the parittion table isn't altered after a re-boot?
[12:28] <age> sorry i dont know what /altered\ means
[12:28] <stevec_> age: changed
[12:28] <age> nope, it is not changed
[12:29] <stevec_> age: you are deleting a partition then re-creating the partition exactly the same?
[12:29] <age> thats right
[12:29] <stevec_> age: why? nothing is going to change
[12:30] <age> because at boot there was an error that said ' the size according to superblock is larger than the physical size
[12:30] <age> i hoped that this would fix it
[12:30] <stevec_> age: if you really do want to do that, try saving th partition table after delete, restart fdisk then re-create it instead of doing it all in one go
[12:31] <stevec_> age: i doubt that would fix it to be honest, probably need to re-create it using mkfs or whatever its called
[12:31] <akram> hi
[12:31] <age> thx stevec_
[12:32] <yutdr> i have a problem with beryl please see http://pastebin.ca/498334
[12:33] <stevec_> yutdr: no idea, sorry
[12:33] <RawSewage> I seriously think Kubuntu is faster than Ubuntu
[12:33] <RawSewage> oh well
[12:33] <stevec_> RawSewage: its exactly the same isn't it just kde instead of gnome?
[12:33] <RawSewage> whatever
[12:33] <RawSewage> yes
[12:34] <stevec_> so kde is faster than gnome then
[12:34] <stevec_> :-)
[12:34] <stevec_> i hate gnome
[12:34] <yutdr> i hate gnome to
[12:34] <yutdr> its really lame sometimesa
[12:34] <yutdr> i always tried the newest releases
[12:35] <stevec_> i gave on gnome years and years ago, always found it terrible
[12:35] <yutdr> but they have always lotsa truble
[12:35] <xlinux__> RawSewage: I agree with you
[12:35] <RawSewage> I didnt mean to open this can of worms
[12:35] <stevec_> lol
[12:35] <stevec_> :-)
[12:35] <yutdr> anyway linus doesnt like it to, he must have his reasons
[12:35] <RawSewage> Ive just been doing lots of fresh installs lately
[12:35] <xlinux__> i came into linux thinking gnome was more stable
[12:36] <yutdr> i hated gnome anyway from beging on
[12:36] <stevec_> i cant wait for kde4 to be released, hmmm, might download the alphas livecd
[12:36] <yutdr> and that stupid bigfoot logo lol
[12:36] <RawSewage> theres nothing to see
[12:36] <RawSewage> KDE4 looks like KDE3 now
[12:37] <xlinux__> is konqueror going away as primary file manager on 4?
[12:37] <yutdr> does anybody know the channel for beryl?
[12:37] <stevec_> RawSewage: have you tried the livecd?
[12:37] <RawSewage> #Ubuntu-Effects
[12:37] <RawSewage> no, I was stupid and actually installed the alpha
[12:37] <stevec_> lol
[12:37] <Tm_T> RawSewage: well, I installed KDE4 over a year ago ;-)
[12:38] <RawSewage> Dolphin is going to be the primary file manager
[12:38] <Tm_T> it was fun back then
[12:38] <RawSewage> but I'll probably use Konqueror
[12:38] <Tm_T> xlinux__: well, dolphin is going to be default, but as _primary_ ...
[12:38] <RawSewage> Dolphin doesnt have the features I need
[12:38] <xlinux__> dolphin seems gimped though..
[12:38] <Tm_T> Konqueror won't go away anyway
[12:38] <stevec_> im bored, going to install beryl, havent looked at that for a while
[12:38] <xlinux__> I can at least remove dolphin...
[12:39] <RawSewage> I'll give all the new apps a try
[12:39] <xlinux__> Beryl...
[12:39] <RawSewage> way too early to judge anything
[12:39] <yutdr> i like beryl its just i think to unstable
[12:39] <blekos> hi, i try to settup hamachi, but i get the msg tap/tun not found
[12:39] <RawSewage> I cant use Beryl because of the Nvidia memory problems
[12:39] <blekos> i also cant find tuncfg
[12:40] <yutdr> what is hamachi?
[12:40] <xlinux__> weird.. whenever I use beryl, I have to open the Nvidia x server panel and manually set my refresh rate, or it gives black flashes after awhile and freezes
[12:40] <stevec_> lasttime i tried beryl was on gentoo, far too much trouble to get going so i havent bothered since
[12:40] <xlinux__> manually editing xorg doesnt do any good either
[12:41] <blekos> vpn application
[12:41] <xlinux__> RawSewage: what nvidia memory problem?
[12:42] <RawSewage> black screen
[12:42] <stevec_> god that was easy to install on here
[12:42] <xlinux__> flashing or stays black
[12:42] <stevec_> seems very slow like
[12:43] <stevec_> lots of graphic corruption too
[12:43] <xlinux__> RawSewage: I dont have that issue.. what card you got?
[12:43] <RawSewage> it doesnt matter
[12:43] <RawSewage> GeForce 4200
[12:43] <RawSewage> I can use other settings, but it slows it down too much
[12:44] <RawSewage> forcing something
[12:44] <xlinux__> RawSewage: I see
[12:45] <Dodo> Is somebody here?
[12:47] <stevec_> hi Dodo
[12:52] <Dodo> hi, stevec_
[12:52] <Dodo> I just got a trouble with kdevelop
[12:53] <Dodo> do you familiar with it?
[12:53] <binford3000> hi there
[12:54] <pag> Dodo, could you be more specific: what kind of trouble did you get?
[12:54] <pag> !hi | binford3000
[12:54] <ubotu> binford3000: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:54] <binford3000> could someone help me? I'd like to blacklist a module, but it gets loaded anyway
[12:55] <binford3000> I put "blacklist r8169" int /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:01] <yonderboy> Hey?
[01:02] <pag> hi yonderboy :)
[01:02] <yonderboy> What's the command to run the adept gui? :)
[01:03] <pag> yonderboy, hmm.. kdesu adept_manager  ?
[01:04] <yonderboy> pag, thanks
[01:05] <yonderboy> tried that for ages....
[01:05] <pag> yw :)
[01:05] <yonderboy> Musta got a typo, lol, pag would that be okay to add in the fluxbox menu?
[01:07] <pag> yonderboy, try if that works, then you can put it wherever you like :) that kdesu part might be KDE specific, so I'm not quite sure if it works outside the KDE
[01:09] <franz_> any suggestions for a good antivirus? :)
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> why do you want one? are you serving files to Windows clients?
[01:10] <temceln> is there so many *virus under linux ?
[01:10] <yonderboy> pag, it did work, thanks :)
[01:10] <yonderboy> temceln, no
[01:10] <temceln> oki lol
[01:10] <yonderboy> but there are still vulnerabilities in stuff, which is worse.
[01:10] <temceln> hmm
[01:11] <franz_> SlimeyPete, just to be on the safe side :) ...btw, im a linux newbie :)
[01:11] <temceln> how is that possible ? i though linux was the gold os ?!
[01:11] <franz_> why are there no antivirus for linux? :)
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> well, clamav is pretty good and I think you can get AVG for Linux
[01:11] <yonderboy> temceln, lol..
[01:11] <temceln> :)
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> franz_: there are several antivirus programs available... it's just that they're not really necessary at the moment
[01:12] <yonderboy> You actualy think vuln. free software can be made? :P
[01:12] <franz_> SlimeyPete, thanks thanks :) i think i'll try clamav :) i've seen it being suggested over the forums :)
[01:12] <franz_> SlimeyPete, i see :) thanks :)
[01:12] <temceln> vuln ?
[01:12] <temceln> erable ?
[01:13] <tyyy> hi to all im getting this from xorg log file (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23
[01:14] <PhinnFort> tyyy: it's perfectly normal
[01:14] <tyyy> well then im happy
[01:15] <PhinnFort> :)
[01:15] <tyyy> what about this? http://pastebin.ca/498334
[01:17] <PhinnFort> tyyy: maybe not use an experimental, unstable, beta/alpha window manager?
[01:17] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:17] <tyyy> i installed the default version of beryl
[01:18] <chris__> what is beryl
[01:18] <PhinnFort> well, Beryl is very unstable
[01:18] <PhinnFort> !beryl
[01:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:18] <chris__> window tuning?
[01:18] <PhinnFort> window wobbling, fading, etc
[01:18] <chris__> is it better than the traditionnal settings?
[01:18] <chris__> ok
[01:18] <PhinnFort> it's rather experimental
[01:18] <chris__> to have beautiful desktops
[01:19] <PhinnFort> yeah
[01:19] <PhinnFort> chris__: search for "beryl" on youtube, to see some examples
[01:19] <tyyy> so its normal that the machine will crash somewhere between 5 and 40 nibs?
[01:19] <chris__> im gonna try
[01:19] <chris__> ok
[01:19] <tyyy> nibs=mins
[01:19] <PhinnFort> tyyy: not normal, but to be expected;)
[01:19] <tyyy> lol
[01:19] <PhinnFort> tyyy: maybe ask in #ubuntu-effects
[01:19] <tyyy> i understand
[01:19] <franz_> PhinnFort, what do you suggest, beryl or compiz? :)
[01:19] <tyyy> i asked there but nobody replys
[01:19] <PhinnFort> tyyy: if I run beryl here, and Yakuake at the same time, it crashes quite predictably
[01:20] <PhinnFort> franz_: if Beryl works, use it
[01:20] <tyyy> what is yakuake?
[01:20] <PhinnFort> !yakuake
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <PhinnFort> !info yakuake
[01:20] <franz_> PhinnFort, nice, thanks :)
[01:20] <chris__> and i have some problems playing mp3 on amarok
[01:20] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[01:20] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[01:20] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:20] <tyyy> thx
[01:21] <tyyy> is there a beryl channel?
[01:21] <PhinnFort> try #beryl
[01:21] <PhinnFort> chris__: install the package "libxine-extracodecs"
[01:21] <chris__> right
[01:21] <chris__> thanx
[01:22] <PhinnFort> chris__: "sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs"
[01:22] <chris__> im gonna try via adept installer
[01:22] <PhinnFort> chris__: it should enable MP3 support in XINE which amaroK uses to play music
[01:22] <PhinnFort> ok
[01:22] <chris__> yep
[01:22] <chris__> because amarok has a windows popping up to install mp3 support
[01:22] <chris__> but dont w<orks fine
[01:23] <chris__> im nex to linux
[01:23] <chris__> new
[01:23] <chris__> so i use the console when needed last
[01:23] <PhinnFort> everyone is new at some point to pretty much everything;)
[01:24] <chris__> lol right
[01:24] <chris__> i installed linux cause i lost my M$ cd
[01:24] <PhinnFort> heh;)
[01:24] <PhinnFort> how do you like it so far?
[01:24] <chris__> i found it yesterday so i re installed windows
[01:24] <chris__> but i now prefer kubuntu
[01:25] <stevec_> is there a way of exporting a list of installed packages so you can re-install your comp with all current packages easily?
[01:25] <PhinnFort> hehe
[01:25] <chris__> kubuntu works perfectly
[01:25] <chris__> dont crash
[01:25] <PhinnFort> stevec_: dpkg -l
[01:25] <stevec_> cheers PhinnFort
[01:25] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:25] <chris__> and i,nternet seems faster
[01:25] <chris__> i dont know why
[01:25] <stevec_> redistribute static subnets
[01:25] <PhinnFort> psychological, maybe;)
[01:26] <stevec_> oops past to wrong window :-s
[01:26] <tyyy>  is it possible that maybe konqueror in combination with beryl caouses a crash?
[01:26] <PhinnFort> tyyy: maybe, but I haven't heard about it before
[01:26] <PhinnFort> tyyy: have you tried Compiz?
[01:26] <tyyy> no
[01:26] <stevec_> tyyy: anything is possible, beryl is extremely buggy software at present, just don't use it yet
[01:26] <chris__> konqeror is fine for computer browsing
[01:26] <tyyy> whats the difference?
[01:26] <PhinnFort> tyyy: it's also experimental and buggy, but I think it's a bit more stable
[01:26] <chris__> but when it comes to the web it dont work fine
[01:27] <PhinnFort> chris__: you should also try to install "dolphin" for managing files
[01:27] <chris__> dolphin
[01:27] <stevec_> !dolphin
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <PhinnFort> chris__: it doesn't have as many features, but it's more specialized for handling files
[01:27] <PhinnFort> !info dolphin
[01:27] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB
[01:27] <chris__> a lot of people say Ms windows is easier to use
[01:28] <kblog> can anyone tell me whats the difference of a "local group" and "domain group" for openSSH is?
[01:28] <chris__> but installing apps under linux is easier
[01:29] <PhinnFort> chris__: most people are used to the Windows way of doing things
[01:29] <redguy> howdy
[01:29] <PhinnFort> !hi | redguy
[01:29] <ubotu> redguy: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:29] <stevec_> uurrgghh i don't like dolphin!
[01:29] <stevec_> !google
[01:29] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[01:30] <PhinnFort> stevec_: why not?
[01:30] <stevec_> PhinnFort: dunno, just used with good old konqy i suppose :-)
[01:31] <jorunnm> I am not able to raise the volume on my fujitsu siemens laptop. The volume control on the laptop lies on a hotkey.
[01:31] <PhinnFort> stevec_: I forced myself to use it for one day, and afterwards I couldn't go back;)
[01:31] <PhinnFort> stevec_: once you get accustomed to it, it's very, very nice
[01:31] <stevec_> PhinnFort: ill try that then :-)
[01:32] <chris__> is there a way to install fonts esay
[01:32] <chris__> easy?
[01:32] <jorunnm> I can't get the volume up. ANybody?
[01:32] <PhinnFort> chris__: go to "fonts:/" in konqueror
[01:32] <stevec_> chris__: lots of font packages available in adept manager
[01:32] <PhinnFort> chris__: then drag them into there, or copy paste, or however you like to move files
[01:33] <PhinnFort> chris__: you can also use the font-installing tool. Go to run command, type in "kcontrol", search for font, and click on font installer
[01:40] <Boje> moin
[01:42] <Red_Tear> !linux
[01:42] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[01:42] <mo0osah> is it possible to make all the windows in kde transparent
[01:43] <Red_Tear> is there a channel for all distros?
[01:43] <|lostbyte|> Red_Tear, #linuc
[01:43] <|lostbyte|> Red_Tear, #linuxhelp
[01:43] <Red_Tear> thanks
[01:43] <|lostbyte|> sorry
[01:43] <mo0osah> !transparent
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transparent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <PhinnFort> !beryl | mo0osah
[01:45] <ubotu> mo0osah: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:46] <mo0osah> Is there any way to do it in kwin?
[01:46] <PhinnFort> mo0osah: alt+f2, kcontrol, window behaviour, transparency
[01:46] <|lostbyte|> mo0osah, nope
[01:47] <PhinnFort> |lostbyte|: it is so
[01:47] <|lostbyte|> oh thats for only the title i suppose
[01:47] <PhinnFort> kde has shipped kompmgr since 3.5.3 or something
[01:47] <PhinnFort> |lostbyte|: no, it's for the whole shebang
[01:47] <chris__> where can i fond fonts
[01:47] <PhinnFort> chris__: you can search in Adept Package Manager
[01:47] <PhinnFort> chris__: or you can search on google
[01:48] <chris__> it says adept is already ruinning
[01:48] <PhinnFort> !locked
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <pag> !adeptfix | chris__
[01:49] <ubotu> chris__: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:49] <ubuntu> HI
[01:49] <PhinnFort> chris__: are you running any other package managers?
[01:49] <chris__> no
[01:49] <PhinnFort> chris__: then do as the bot told you
[01:49] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:50] <PhinnFort> mo0osah: did you find it?
[01:50] <mo0osah> Yes, but I doesnt seem to make windows translucent
[01:51] <mo0osah> probably because it's still in beta stages =)
[01:51] <PhinnFortmo0> mo0osah: you need to set translucency level and so on;)
[01:51] <mo0osah> Set everything to 50 percent
[01:51] <mo0osah> hehe
[01:51] <PhinnFort> mo0osah: hit alt+f2 and type "kompmgr" and hit enter
[01:52] <mo0osah> That worked... but what did I just do?
[01:52] <PhinnFort> you started kompmgr, which handles transparency and stuff
[01:52] <mo0osah> so i'll have to start it manually everytime
[01:52] <mo0osah> ?
[01:53] <PhinnFort> mo0osah: i don't think so, but you can go to ".kde/Autostart" in your homefolder, right click, new, link to application, kompmgr
[01:53] <PhinnFort> but now I'm going to eat
[01:54] <mo0osah> hehe, thanks PhinnFort
[01:56] <stevec_> anyone know of equivilent software on linux for cisco ip communicator?
[01:56] <romain> lu
[01:56] <knubbe> is there any program i can use to "catch" audio-streams? id like to stream rip songs from myspace and save on my hdd
[01:56] <ReMiiRuru> What java IDE can you suggest me?
[01:56] <romain> qsuit
[01:56] <romain> quit
[01:57] <knubbe> ReMiiRuru: eclipse?
[01:57] <ReMiiRuru> I'm downloading the package now, but I was wondering if there's something else around...
[01:57] <SlimeyPete> there's always netbeans
[01:58] <SlimeyPete> eclipse and netbeans are the two most popular ones.
[01:59] <ReMiiRuru> Well, yeah... I guess I'll stick to eclipse till the end of this project and then I'll try out netbeans.
[02:05] <blekos> hi, i want from a windows machine to acces my pc (remote desktop) what should i run on win and what on kde?
[02:09] <Dodo> ssh
[02:10] <renwey> sin hier deutsche?
[02:11] <Tm_T> !de | renwey
[02:11] <ubotu> renwey: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:16] <nuu> blekos: the pc you want to remotely control is running what OS ?
[02:17] <blekos> linux
[02:18] <nuu> blekos: then you have three main choices, which is remote X, freenx and vnc
[02:19] <blekos> what's the easiest to configure?
[02:19] <nuu> if the machine you want to remotely admin FROM is running windows, then your best bets are freenx and vnc, with vnc being a winner for ease of configuration
[02:19] <nuu> therefore blekos: sudo apt-get install vncserver on the linux machine
[02:20] <nuu> and grab a vnc viewer for windows. I'd pick either ultravnc or realvnc
[02:20] <nuu> try both, and get yourself an idea of which is best for you
[02:20] <blekos> so, i've installed vncserver, what next?
[02:20] <nuu> you keep reading your irc buffer
[02:20] <nuu> :)
[02:21] <blekos> :)
[02:23] <blekos> the thing is i'm using a router how i'll direct my ultravnc to the right computer?
[02:23] <nuu> on the router, you need to forward ports to the linux computer, and from the outside, you'll use your normal external ip
[02:23] <blekos> i've registered with dyndns but i dont know if it's going to work
[02:24] <nuu> the ports vnc uses start from 5900 and go up as your X session goes. therefore X session 1 will be 5901, X session 2 will be 5902, and so on.
[02:24] <nuu> blekos: if you did it all correctly, and your ip didn't change (or you configured an automatic dyndns updater like ddclient), it'll work a charm.
[02:25] <blekos> could u try to connect to my network, just to see if it's alive
[02:25] <blekos> its blekos.dyndns.info
[02:26] <nuu> do you want me to try connecting with vnc to your ip ?
[02:27] <blekos> well, yes. But i dont have any ddclient, and.. havent set up my router for vnc, so i guess i have to set up my router to 5901
[02:27] <nuu> yes, also set it up for 5900
[02:27] <blekos> ok brb
[02:28] <nuu> if you can get to the router though, it means your ip didn't change.
[02:29] <nuu> (i'm assuming you're not in the same location of blekos.dyndns.info)
[02:30] <blekos> router should b ok, what do u mean the same location?
[02:31] <ubuntu_> I NEED HELP!
[02:31] <nuu> same network
[02:31] <ubuntu_> cpucpu is fucking up
[02:31] <nuu> !language | ubuntu_
[02:31] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:32] <ubuntu_> I put the cpu frequency scaler on the menu bar and clicked it to get the menu now it's slamin my frequency up and down between 1 GHz and 2GHz
[02:33] <danny500> any help?
[02:34] <_4strO> !paste
[02:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:34] <nuu> blekos: i can't connect to either 5900 or 5901
[02:34] <blekos> is there any chance u have selected on demand danny500?
[02:34] <blekos> hmm
[02:34] <nuu> are you 100% sure the ip hasn't changed ?
[02:34] <blekos> how can i find it out?
[02:35] <nuu> www.whatismyip.com
[02:35] <blekos> 193.92.231.59
[02:35] <nuu> and to figure out what ip blekos.dyndns.info points to, you can use the commandline utility "host".
[02:35] <nuu> ie: open a terminal, and type: host blekos.dyndns.info
[02:35] <danny500> yeah it's ondemand right now but I can even pull up the menu for it
[02:36] <nuu> anyway that's the ip i get too, so something's wrong with either the port forwarding or with vnc.
[02:36] <nuu> blekos: did you try connecting locally to vnc ?
[02:36] <blekos> no
[02:36] <nuu> try it
[02:36] <nuu> from another machine, for instance, in the same network
[02:36] <danny500> how do I tell it to turn off ondemand?
[02:36] <blekos> i've only run nvcserver
[02:36] <nuu> we need to make sure that vnc server is running.
[02:37] <nuu> manually ?
[02:37] <blekos> if u right click, or select configure u must have dynamic etc
[02:38] <nuu> blekos: did you run "vncserver" ?
[02:38] <nuu> if so, what did it say ?
[02:38] <blekos> otherwise u'll need smg like cpufreq-set -c 0 -g ondemand
[02:38] <blekos> for 1 core
[02:38] <blekos> otherwise u'll need smg like cpufreq-set -c 1 -g ondemand
[02:38] <blekos> for the second
[02:38] <blekos> change ondemand with dynamic
[02:38] <blekos> yes vnc server is runnign
[02:39] <nuu> blekos: are you running kubuntu ?
[02:39] <blekos> yes
[02:39] <blekos> New 'X' desktop is blekos-laptop:1
[02:39] <nuu> ah, ok. so it's 5901
[02:39] <nuu> please, go to a terminal
[02:39] <nuu> and type: netstat -nap | grep vnc
[02:40] <nuu> paste output in private, so we don't bother others
[02:40] <PF-Away> #flood
[02:41] <Jucato> !pastebin
[02:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:41] <nuu> blekos: paste output in private to me.
[02:41] <danny500> blekos: didn't work
[02:42] <blekos> is it /msg nuu?
[02:42] <danny500> blekos: still running at 1GHz
[02:42] <blekos> w8 a min danny
[02:42] <danny500> ok
[02:42] <nuu> blekos, double click my nickname
[02:43] <nuu> and a query window will open
[02:43] <c1|freaky> hi all. is there a possibility to mount a remote ssh account as a drive automatically when internet access is available - and also automatically start a ssh session to that account in a console or smth.?
[02:43] <nuu> paste there
[02:43] <danny500> I have a AMD 64 Athlon 3200+ btw
[02:43] <nuu> either that, or use directly http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , and paste here the URL of your paste
[02:44] <blekos> danny go here and start where it says others if u have a dual core http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_enable_your_CPU.27s_Power_Saving.2FFrequency_Scaling_features
[02:44] <blekos> /msg nuu
[02:44] <blekos> (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info
[02:44] <blekos>  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)
[02:44] <blekos> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6001            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     27772/Xrealvnc
[02:44] <blekos> tcp6       0      0 :::5901                 :::*                    LISTEN     27772/Xrealvnc
[02:44] <blekos> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     220401   27772/Xrealvnc      /tmp/.X11-unix/X1
[02:44] <blekos> unix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     220555   27772/Xrealvnc      /tmp/.X11-unix/X1
[02:44] <Jucato> !pastebin | blekos
[02:44] <ubotu> blekos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:44] <blekos> sorry gyus!!!
[02:45] <blekos> nuu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21674/
[02:46] <nuu> ok blekos, as you can see from line #4, vnc server is listening on all interfaces, port 5901
[02:46] <nuu> now....do you have another machine in the network, that you can try to connect to vnc from ?
[02:47] <blekos> well, yes one with windows
[02:48] <blekos> is there any chance i could paste w screenshot of my router settings somewhere?
[02:49] <nuu> before you do that, let's make sure vnc is working and accepting connections. go to your windows machine
[02:49] <nuu> once you're there, download a vnc viewer
[02:49] <blekos> like realvnc
[02:49] <nuu> yes. and then use it to connect locally to the linux machine
[02:49] <nuu> using the LAN ip of the linux machine.
[02:49] <nuu> do you know what its LAN ip is ?
[02:50] <olabil> anyone got a clue as to why i have to run the nvidia installer every time i reboot, if i want to start x? if i dont it just stops at the kubuntu loading logo
[02:50] <blekos> nop, in windows i just do ipconfigure but no idea in linux
[02:50] <nuu> ifconfig
[02:50] <blekos> ok
[02:50] <nuu> typically your eth0, or eth1 interface is the one.
[02:50] <blekos> its eth1, cause its wireless
[02:51] <blekos> ok got it
[02:51] <nuu> alright. make also sure you can "see" the linux box from windows. open cmd and type "ping <linux box ip>"
[02:51] <blekos> have the address i give it a try give me 5min
[02:51] <blekos> ok
[02:51] <nuu> sure. good luck
[02:53] <olabil> anyone got a clue as to why i have to run the nvidia installer every time i reboot, if i want to start x? if i dont run the installer, X just stops at the kubuntu loading logo
[02:53] <nuu> olabil: did you recently install an older nvidia driver version over an existing one ?
[02:54] <blekos> i'm back, my ip is 192.168.1.67, i do cmd->ping etc and ok
[02:54] <blekos> but when i run vnc viewer it says connetction time out
[02:55] <nuu> blekos: also try typing, in the vnc address box, 192.168.1.67:5901
[02:55] <nuu> because as i said, default port is 5900.
[02:55] <blekos> ok i'll try
[02:56] <olabil> nuu: no, just did a fresh reinstall of kubuntu 7.04, downloaded the package and installed it, everything works fine after i've ran the installer, but when i reboot i have to do it again
[02:57] <nuu> olabil: is it the nvidia driver package off nvidia.com, or what ?
[02:58] <olabil> nuu: yes, latest version off the nvidia.com site
[02:59] <nuu> olabil: did you check X logs for hints of what is causing X not to startup ?
[03:00] <olabil> no, good point, where may i find that X log?
[03:00] <nuu> try /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:00] <blekos> no luck nuu
[03:00] <olabil> ok thanks, i'll read the log, brb
[03:00] <nuu> blekos: did you input a password somewhere when starting the vnc server ?
[03:00] <nuu> np olabil
[03:01] <blekos> yes
[03:01] <nuu> blekos: i want to see if by any chance, the vncserver is listening correctly. open a terminal in linux, and type telnet localhost 5901
[03:01] <nuu> you should see a strange string containing something like "RFB"
[03:02] <nuu> and then it should hang there
[03:02] <blekos> yes it dit
[03:02] <blekos> rfb 003.003
[03:02] <nuu> fine. now hit CTRL+C, and you'll be back at command prompt
[03:02] <nuu> on the same linux box, now
[03:02] <nuu> try telnet 192.168.1.67 5901
[03:03] <blekos> ok rfb
[03:03] <blekos> connected to .... escape... rfb 003.003
[03:03] <blekos> dint ask for psswd
[03:04] <nuu> good. so VNC is listening, just you can't get there from windows. Now we'll try the same command, "telnet 192.168.1.67 5901", from windows
[03:04] <blekos> ok
[03:04] <blekos> brb
[03:04] <nuu> don't worry, that's just a protocol banner, no remote connection is actually happening yet
[03:05] <olabil> well, now that i've run the package installer already (after previous reboot) the logfile doesnt contain any specific errors. the warnings it pritns me is about nvidia drivers not able to read my monitors EDID.. i'll try the log after i've done a reboot
[03:05] <blekos> no lack
[03:06] <blekos> i'm sooo stupid
[03:06] <nuu> blekos: most likely a firewall in the middle (or on the windows box, or on the linux box) is preventing your packets from getting there
[03:06] <blekos> yeap
[03:06] <blekos> just look at that
[03:06] <blekos> firestarter
[03:06] <nuu> ok, fix it, and report back :)
[03:06] <felix> hwo knows how to install Shoutcast plugin in XMMS ???
[03:07] <_6StringKng_> for some reason kmix isn't starting up when I login anymore
[03:07] <nuu> _6StringKng_: are you in group "audio" ?
[03:08] <nuu> open a terminal, and type groups
[03:08] <n0n4m3> is there any good program for writing php and html for kubuntu ?:p
[03:08] <blekos> ok, I just stopped the firewall
[03:08] <blekos> and tried from  vnc
[03:08] <_6StringKng_> should be, was fine a little bit ago
[03:08] <_6StringKng_> adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin
[03:09] <blekos> the thing is that i just see an x window (that is an x mouse pointer and a grey screen)
[03:09] <n0n4m3> blekos vnc can be hacked easily
[03:09] <nuu> blekos: try running vncserver from root
[03:10] <n0n4m3> nuu do you know any good program for kubuntu for writing php and html
[03:10] <n0n4m3> and stuff
[03:10] <n0n4m3> you know like dreamweaver
[03:10] <n0n4m3> or so:>
[03:10] <nuu> n0n4m3: nope, sorry
[03:10] <n0n4m3> ok
[03:10] <blekos> do u mean sudo vncserver?
[03:10] <nuu> blekos: yes
[03:10] <Jucato> !quanta
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <Jucato> bah
[03:10] <Jucato> n0n4m3: try Quanta
[03:11] <blekos> how do i check i killed vncserver correctly?
[03:11] <n0n4m3> jucato
[03:11] <n0n4m3> tnx
[03:11] <n0n4m3> i will try it
[03:12] <_6StringKng_> I think I figured it out, nvm
[03:12] <nuu> blekos: you can use vncserver -clean -kill :1
[03:12] <nuu> then :2, etc
[03:12] <nuu> and when you retry the command, it should say there is no such vnc server listening there
[03:12] <felix> HWO KNOWS HOW TO INSTALL THE SHOUTCAST PLUGIN IN XMMS ?
[03:12] <n0n4m3> SHOU
[03:12] <n0n4m3> ups
[03:12] <n0n4m3> sorry.
[03:13] <nuu> felix: caps won't get you helped faster, on the contrary.
[03:13] <Jucato> !shout | felix
[03:13] <ubotu> felix: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:15] <blekos> ok 2 problems i still see the same screen (x windows screen),
[03:15] <nuu> blekos: is X started on the linux box ?
[03:16] <nuu> also, do you see a desktop manager like kde or gnome when you use that box locally?
[03:16] <blekos> hmm, not sure what u mean, right now i'm using a gui
[03:16] <blekos> hm, maybe i did make my self clear, i want to be able to see what i'm looking at right now
[03:16] <nuu> yes, and that's what vncserver typically does
[03:17] <nuu> apparently it didnt attach to your running X session, though
[03:17] <n0n4m3> wow
[03:17] <n0n4m3> Jucato,  tnx
[03:17] <n0n4m3> quanta
[03:17] <n0n4m3> is cool
[03:17] <n0n4m3> :)
[03:18] <nuu> blekos: so you just see a grey window, with a black X cursor ?
[03:19] <blekos> yep
[03:19] <nuu> what happens if you click your mouse buttons there ?
[03:20] <blekos> would u mind trying to connect just to see that u asked for a pwssd?
[03:20] <blekos> nothing
[03:21] <n0n4m3> blekos i had
[03:21] <n0n4m3> this problem too..
[03:21] <nuu> blekos: try killing vncserver
[03:21] <nuu> and restarting it with vncserver :0
[03:21] <nuu> to see if that way it attaches to your running X session
[03:22] <nuu> blekos: of course from windows don't use 5901, just the ip
[03:22] <blekos> it says 0 is not takeb because of /tmp/X0-lock
[03:23] <blekos> Remove this file if there is no X server blekos-laptop:0
[03:23] <blekos> A VNC server is already running as :0
[03:24] <blekos> cannt connect
[03:27] <blekos> cant connect, i run sudo vncserver :1,
[03:28] <blekos> then on windows tryid to connect without :5901 but dint make it. It worked with :5902
[03:28] <blekos> then on windows tryid to connect without :5901 but dint make it. It worked with :5901
[03:28] <blekos> but have the same grey box
[03:28] <nuu> okay, let's try an even simpler route.
[03:28] <blekos> n0n what did u do for this problem?
[03:29] <blekos> i am listenig
[03:29] <dsfdsfd> what's the comand to partition a filesystem on the live cd?
[03:29] <deever> hi
[03:29] <nuu> blekos: sudo apt-get autoremove vncserver
[03:30] <nuu> then in your internet menu
[03:30] <nuu> start Krfb
[03:31] <deever> how well are these macbook pros supported by kubuntu?
[03:31] <kblog> if i want to connect two pcs with vnc over internet, i'll need openssh, right? do I ALSO need putty then?
[03:31] <blekos> i think i need to logout and log in again
[03:32] <blekos> give me a sec, cause it seems there are issues
[03:32] <blekos> kDEInit could not launch 'konsole
[03:32] <deever> kblog: you better use it, yes
[03:33] <kblog> deever: both together or just one of them?
[03:33] <blekos> ok i'm back
[03:33] <kblog> windowsXP will be server, linux (ubuntu) client
[03:33] <deever> kblog: VNC should always be tunnelled since it is unencrypted
[03:33] <blekos> i started krfb
[03:33] <Bullines> Hi!  I'm running Kubuntu (Feisty).  I've plugged my USB external hard drive in and I can see it in media:.
[03:34] <kblog> deever: right, as much as i understood, openssh is that app that tunnels, isn't it?
[03:34] <deever> kblog: jap
[03:34] <Bullines> But clicking on it gives me a "hal-storage-remabable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" error.
[03:34] <kblog> deever: so why do i still need putty?
[03:34] <Bullines> Is there something I'm missing?
[03:34] <deever> kblog: for ssh
[03:35] <blekos> so what your email nuu?
[03:35] <kblog> deever: im quite confused now... :/
[03:35] <kblog> deever: what does putty then?
[03:35] <deever> kblog: it tunnels the unencrypted VNC data
[03:36] <kblog> deever: so what is openssh needed for?
[03:36] <deever> kblog: for the server-side of your SSH connection
[03:37] <blekos> wb nuu
[03:38] <kblog> deever: ah, if i understand you correctly, i just need putty on the client?
[03:38] <deever> kblog: what you also could do is to install an SSH server on windows, but this setup is not as common as the one with linux acting as your SSH server
[03:38] <deever> kblog: you have a VNC server and a client...
[03:38] <deever> kblog: ...and an SSH server and a client
[03:38] <kblog> right... ubuntu is client... winXP server
[03:39] <kblog> ok... i think, i see.
[03:39] <deever> kblog: the VNC server and the SSH client run on your WinXP box
[03:39] <kblog> the vnc server has also the ssh server and the vnc client has also the ssh client
[03:40] <deever> kblog: no
[03:40] <kblog> hmmm....
[03:41] <kblog> deever: thank you so far.
[03:41] <kblog> :)
[03:42] <deever> kblog: use google for getting a how-to on using VNC-over-SSH
[03:42] <deever> np
[03:42] <kblog> deever: i already did... but there were some things that confused me
[03:42] <frode> kblog: the -via option to the vncclient does vnc via ssh for you.
[03:43] <deever> frode: ?
[03:43] <deever> which vncclient?
[03:43] <kblog> ultranvc
[03:43] <frode> deever: xtighvncviewer for example.
 n0n what did u do for this problem?
[03:43] <n0n4m3> nothing
[03:44] <angasule> does feisty have proper support for the HP LaserJet 1020 printer or is it the same as edgy and dapper? (one has to install foo2zjs from source...)
[03:44] <kblog> on the client, i also need putty, right?
[03:44] <deever> frode: but then you need an SSH-server on windows, don't you?
[03:45] <frode> deever: on the machine you want to go via, yes.
[03:46] <deever> ok
[03:46] <Sephnroth> hey guys
[03:47] <deever> kblog: both VNC and SSH have a client side and a server side...
[03:47] <chris__> how do i setup linux to recognize cameras?
[03:48] <Sephnroth> having a bit of a weird issue here. running kubuntu, edgy 6.10 amd64.  trying to upgrade to fiesty, adept knows upgrade availiable and gives me a wizard. pressing next brings up, briefly, a download box to show it downloading the distrobution upgrade program.  pressing finish fails to launch it though.. where does it save that file?
[03:48] <kblog> deever: ok, thanks...
[03:48] <Sephnroth> so i can run it in a console and see what the error msg is.  i was having problems running excutables earlier too :/
[03:48] <kblog> guess i will write a step-by-step manual afterwards...
[03:48] <deever> kblog: ...while the client side of SSH need not be on the same box as the client side of the VNC connection
[03:49] <frode> Sephnroth: somewhere in /tmp i don't recall exactly where.
[03:49] <Sephnroth> any idea what the file is called?
[03:49] <frode> Sephnroth: you'll find it, it's named upgrader or something.
[03:50] <frode> deever: well.
[03:50] <deever> frode: also the ATI cards?
[03:51] <deever> frode: "cuz" i have an ATI card here and it's a misery! :(
[03:52] <frode>  deever, guess so. would be like any other ati card i guess.
[03:52] <deever> frode: and do you know zattoo?
[03:52] <mehdi_> #apache
[03:52] <frode> deever: no.
[03:53] <n0n4m3> mehdi_,  diwe
[03:53] <n0n4m3> die*:>
[03:54] <Sephnroth> i cant find that file frode - is there anywhere i can download the distrobution updater tool manually?
[03:57] <chris__> how can i extract pictures from a digital camera
[03:57] <frode> Sephnroth:  /tmp/kde-<user>/adept-<randomstring>-extract ?
[03:57] <frode> chris__: plug it in and start digikam.
[03:58] <chris__> ok
[03:59] <Sephnroth> /tmp/kde-<myname>/ just contains "ksycoca" - a cyan coloured file name
[03:59] <chris__> thanks
[04:00] <frode> Sephnroth: what about /var/tmp then? - (just guessing)
[04:03] <Sephnroth> ahah
[04:03] <Sephnroth> i think i found it
[04:03] <Sephnroth> in /tmp/kde-root
[04:03] <Arwen> compiling software takes an infuriating amount of time :-\
[04:04] <_6StringKng_> !ATI
[04:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:04] <frode> Arwen: what are you compiling?
[04:05] <Arwen> frode, VLC
[04:05] <frode> Sephnroth: yeah, that makes sense, as you run adept as root.
[04:05] <Sephnroth> ok i THINK its upgrading to fiesty now, i had to run it with python ./dist-upgrade.py - its downloading stuffs and whatnot now
[04:06] <Sephnroth> im going to leave it to it and go downstairs for a little while
[04:06] <Sephnroth> thanks for your help frode :)
[04:06] <frode> Sephnroth: happy to be helpfull :)
[04:08] <Ayabara> Should connecting a kubuntu laptop to an lcd tv via vga be plug n' play?
[04:09] <stevec_> anyone know of equivilent software on linux for cisco ip communicator?
[04:09] <frode> Ayabara: depends on the graphics adapter in the laptop.
[04:10] <frode> stevec_: what does that do?
[04:10] <Ayabara> frode: ati m300
[04:10] <stevec_> frode: ip phone, connects back to a cisco callmanager
[04:11] <hugo_> Alguem do Brasil ai????
[04:14] <frode> Ayabara: did you try to connect it?
[04:15] <frode> stevec_: not aware of any drop in replacements for that. might find some magic at google or freshmeat.
[04:17] <pm2> I installed the vmware player on kubuntu feisty.  For networking to work, I had to manually modprobe vmnet and vmmon, and run vmnet-bridge.  On the guest OS (win2k), I'm able to access the internet, but I cannot access my host os.  Any ideas?
[04:18] <pm2> If, in IE, I type in the IP for my host os (which is running a lighttpd server) it says "website found", but never connects to it
[04:18] <pm2> ping says request timed out...
[04:19] <Arwen> gah, I hate debian packaging...
[04:19] <frode> Arwen: why?
[04:19] <Arwen> frode, it's so f***ing confusing
[04:20] <frode> Arwen: anything special you have problems with?
[04:20] <Ayabara> frode: not yet. going to a barbeque in 20 minutes, and if it's not likely to be plug and play, I'll wait :-)
[04:20] <Arwen> frode, yeah....... making packages...
[04:20] <Arwen> it's too hard...
[04:21] <pm2> I can, however, access my router
[04:22] <frode> Arwen: you would need to break that down to some issue, if you want help :)
[04:22] <frode> pm2: not knowing much about how vmware-bridging works, my guess would be some firewall-rule blocks your requests.
[04:23] <Ace2016> hi all
[04:23] <Ace2016> how do i make a backup of whatever "sudo sysv-rc-conf" edits?
[04:23] <Arwen> frode, never mind, I just made a typo in one of my control files :-\
[04:23] <pm2> frode, I can't figure out which firewall would be blocking it... iptables is wide open on the host, all firewalling is done at the router
[04:23] <Dragnslcr> pm2- I believe I had that problem too. For some reason, the guest and host could ping each other, but couldn't connect over TCP
[04:24] <pm2> Dragnslcr, I can't even get ping to work
[04:24] <mart81> in feisty, my knetworkmanager does not list my wifi card anymore, so now i can't connect anymore. Any ideas?
[04:24] <Dragnslcr> pm2- do the host and guest have different IP addresses?
[04:24] <pm2> Well, correction - I can ping the guest from the host, but not the other way around
[04:24] <pm2> Dragnslcr, yes, the guest is 192.168.1.105, and the host is 192.168.1.103
[04:24] <Dragnslcr> Sounds like the same problem I had
[04:25] <pm2> Were you able to fix it?
[04:25] <pm2> It was working on the previous version of kubuntu, but stopped working after I upgraded
[04:25] <Dragnslcr> Only person that tried helping me thought it was a limitation of VMWare
[04:25] <pm2> I've tried both the packages from vmware, as well as the ones in the apt repos
[04:26] <Dragnslcr> I never did manage to fix it
[04:26] <pm2> grrr
[04:26] <OlliK> Hi, all!
[04:26] <stevec_> hi OlliK
[04:27] <OlliK> I'm having a problem with sound system (can't hear anything).. All settings seems ok etc. Is there any place where I can see if Kubuntu has succesfully found the integrated sound card?
[04:28] <OlliK> I've been trying different settings with Kmix (the sound mixer), playing sound files, trying the "test sound" button in the settings
[04:30] <mart81> which nokia support ssh?
[04:30] <stevec_> nokia what?
[04:30] <mart81> phone
[04:30] <mart81> just curious, i am searching for one
[04:30] <OlliK> The computer has intel chipset and I think it probably has AC97-combatible sound system
[04:31] <stevec_> mart81: google nokia phone ssh, the first link shows one that does
[04:31] <OlliK> mart81: You probably have to be more specific, which phone?
[04:31] <Dragnslcr> OlliK- which output are you using?
[04:31] <mart81> well, that is what i am after, i like the 6288, but i need to be able to view rtorrent on my machine from that
[04:32] <OlliK> Dragnslcr: I've tried the line out and also headphone jack, didn't hear anything from either of them
[04:32] <Dragnslcr> Check KMix to make sure nothing is muted. That's all I can think of
[04:32] <okapi> what is backport module?
[04:33] <Dragnslcr> I had trouble with my sound, but I was using the digital output and didn't know about alsamixer
[04:33] <OlliK> Dragnslcr: Do you know if there is a place in Kubuntu where I could see which hardware it has found in the computer?
[04:34] <OlliK> Dragnslcr: If I could find a place like that, I could at least see if it has found any sound hardware.
[04:34] <stevec_> OlliK: lspci, dmesg
[04:35] <OlliK> stevec_: thanks
[04:35] <OlliK> Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[04:35] <OlliK> So it definately has found the sound system.. Now I just have to figure out why I can't hear anything
[04:35] <stevec_> OlliK: does alsamixer seem to be working?
[04:36] <OlliK> I don't seem to have alsamixer program installed, I'll check if I can apt-get it and try
[04:37] <stevec_> ive never installed anything special to get it, was just installed
[04:37] <OlliK> stevec_: The only mixer program that I've found so far is the KMix
[04:37] <BluesKaj> OlliK, type alsamixer in the terminal ,...it's installed on feisty by default
[04:37] <stevec_> OlliK: ive you havent got it, install alsa-utils package
[04:37] <OlliK> It works, I typed alsamixer in terminal
[04:38] <OlliK> it seems to be working
[04:38] <phoenixbyrd> I just click the sound icon in the taskbar and then the mixer button to change the volume
[04:38] <stevec_> OlliK: do any channels show as muted? they will show MM at the bottom of the bar
[04:39] <OlliK> line jack sense seems to be off
[04:40] <aGNUstic> Anyone here running Kubuntu installed on Apple machines? I tested the latest Kubuntu Live CD on an Intel based Mini and it works without fail.
[04:40] <OlliK> also line is muted
[04:40] <stevec_> OlliK: press m to unmute after using arrows to highlight that column
[04:41] <chris__> imhaving troubles with digikam help!
[04:41] <chris__> !digikamfix
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about digikamfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <chris__> !digikam-fix
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about digikam-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <OlliK> stevec_: Still can't hear anything, that was probably the line-in
[04:42] <stevec_> OlliK: not sure then, everything seems to be fine :-s
[04:43] <tahsin> can anyone help me install kbfx ?
[04:43] <stevec_> tahsin: install from adept manager
[04:43] <OlliK> Yep, that's the strange thing. Everything seems to be working perfectly, it has found the sound card and the typical things like mixer volume settings / mutes are all ok
[04:43] <chris__> digikam refuses to load my camera
[04:43] <tahsin> stevec_ i tried and installed succesfully but it doesnt work
[04:44] <tahsin> stevec_ i cant change anything
[04:44] <stevec_> tahsin: not sure then, never uses it
[04:44] <tahsin> ok
[04:44] <stevec_> tahsin: just installing it now to try :-)
[04:44] <tahsin> stevec_ can u help me change the grub boot splash image ?
[04:44] <tahsin> stevec_ thanks
[04:45] <stevec_> tahsin: nah, ive disabled the splash image on my machine
[04:45] <tahsin> ok
[04:46] <OlliK> Now this is strange, I tried to plug the headphones off and I heard sound coming from the speaker in the PC (it's kind of mini-media-pc which has integrated speaker for main sounds too)
[04:46] <stevec_> tahsin: dont have a clue how to get kbfx started :-)
[04:46] <tahsin> stevec_ thanks anyway :-)
[04:46] <OlliK> But whenever I plug headphones in into the front headphone jack or rear line-out jack, it' just muted..
[04:47] <stevec_> tahsin: ah need to logout and back in :-)
[04:47] <tahsin> okay
[04:48] <tahsin> :-)
[04:49] <stevec_> tahsin: nah still cant see anything different
[04:49] <tahsin> stevec_ :-( yes i knw
[04:49] <stevec_> tahsin: can you get on www.kbfx.org seems to be down for me
[04:49] <alice_> hi everyone
[04:49] <BluesKaj> OlliK, check this out , there are some helpful hints here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)
[04:49] <Dragnslcr> OlliK- the speakers might get muted when you plug in headphones (since if you have headphones, the system assumes you're using them instead of the regular speakers)
[04:50] <tahsin> stevec_ okay but i gotta go now c ya
[04:50] <stevec_> BluesKaj: good old gentoo :-)
[04:51] <OlliK> Dragnslcr: Yep that's how the PC does it by hardware.. I guess it's a hardware problem with the PC, it's not directing the sound to the headphones
[04:51] <alice_> hum, I would like to launch Konsole with alt+F3, anybody can say me how I might do that please?
[04:51] <BluesKaj> dunno , never used it , but must be debian based , cuz the commands are the same.
[04:52] <OlliK> thanks BluesKaj, checking it out
[04:52] <Dragnslcr> OlliK- check the settings in KMix. Make sure the headphones aren't muted
[04:52] <stevec_> BluesKaj: nah you build it all from source, its good but a pain in the arse, hence why I turned my desktop to kubuntu. my server are still on gentoo though
[04:52] <BluesKaj> just hope it helps , OlliK
[04:52] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- and no, Gentoo is not based on Debian
[04:52] <OlliK> Dragnslcr: It seems there is no special volume for headphones in KMix
[04:52] <OlliK> just Master / Master Mono etc
[04:53] <BluesKaj> well the commands on that page work in kubuntu
[04:53] <Dragnslcr> OlliK- check the switches tab
[04:53] <stevec_> BluesKaj: linux is linux after all, there similar to a certain extent
[04:53] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- probably because they both us ALSA
[04:53] <stevec_> they're even
[04:53] <Dragnslcr> Er, use
[04:54] <BluesKaj> the page helped me get my digital out/ spdif working to send a signal to my HT receiver in the tv room
[04:56] <illriginal> Guys I'm trying to open a windows file (.EXE) and Wine will not even start up... I'm getting NO response from the double clicking.
[04:56] <BluesKaj> OlliK, the idea is to get all the signals into pcm thru the mixer , then to all outputs
[04:56] <Jucato> illriginal: you will have to run it from the command line. "wine filename.exe"
[04:56] <Captain_Haddock> Hi, I just performed a dist-upgrade from edgy to feisty. I am having problems with Samba - I can browse other boxen on the network using Samba. But I can't browse the samba shares on this feisty box from other computers.
[04:56] <Captain_Haddock> Any ideas why?
[04:56] <stevec_> illriginal: you have to run wine command.exre
[05:00] <mart81> what module reloads the networking stuff for wifi?
[05:05] <mart81> can anyone tell me why my wifi does not work correctly?
[05:05] <mart81> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21708/
[05:09] <edgy> Hi, I just plugged my new Lacie rugged external HD and sudo fdisk -l doesn't show any thing but my main HD, what shall I do?
[05:10] <Dragnslcr> edgy- I'm having the same issue with an SATA drive. If I find out anything, I'll let ya know
[05:16] <caris_mere> I am trying to set up some filtering, and the command I am supposed to give is "chkconfig", but it says that this comman is not found.
[05:16] <caris_mere> hi
[05:17] <caris_mere> anybody here?
[05:18] <rag> caris_mere: what filter?
[05:18] <caris_mere> dansguardian
[05:19] <caris_mere> rag: dansguardian
[05:20] <DJServers> help me! plz everytime i try so connect on my mysql database it gets an error someon now what to do?
[05:20] <DJServers> !nl
[05:20] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[05:20] <rag> caris_mere: i dont know dans, look internet!
[05:21] <caris_mere> rag: I am just trying to make sure my iptables are started at boot time and to start the iptables firewall
[05:21] <caris_mere> rag: It says I should use "chkdonfig iptables on", but then my computer says "chkconfig: command not found"
[05:22] <caris_mere> rag: chkconfig
[05:23] <rag> caris_mere: in kubuntu? to put iptables on start, chkconfig not sound me
[05:24] <caris_mere> rag: I am using kubuntu, but the article may not have been written for kubuntu. So I should use start?
[05:25] <rag> caris_mere: of course chkconfig is for gentoo maybe, no?
[05:25] <caris_mere> rag: do you know what command I need to use?
[05:25] <rimtech> How can I see how much memory each task is using??? if i type free from the console it says i've used all 1gb of my ram... that's worse than vista???
[05:25] <rag> caris_mere: think in it ;)
[05:26] <Jucato> !ram | rimtech
[05:26] <ubotu> rimtech: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[05:26] <rag> caris_mere: always, i use run level modification services, for start more services
[05:26] <Jucato> rimtech: no, it's not worse than vista. the fact is that Linux and Windows use RAM quite differently. please read that FAQ link for more info
[05:26] <caris_mere> rag: ok, thanks
[05:28] <cox377> can anyone recommend an app to joint 2 avi files together?
[05:30] <_6StringKng_> !ATI
[05:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <caris_mere> rag: still haven't gotten the iptables set up. I'm unclear as to what command I should use
[05:31] <kblog> if i enter "ssd <ip-address> (whith the correct ip-address, of course), then i get asked for the password.
[05:31] <kblog> how do i change it? i have physical access to this computer
[05:31] <kblog> its winXP
[05:33] <caris_mere> Need help with iptables. I need to start them
[05:33] <tanja> hello i checked command: cat /proc/cpuinfo  --> cpu MHz writes 800MHz, is supose to be 2.0GHz, is that troustable resolut
[05:33] <ahmed> guys,, on kubuntu firefox used to work greatly now i try opening it , it shows down in the taskbar starting firefox but then closes with out even showing its window plzzz help
[05:34] <SlimeyPete> tanja: does your processor have speedstep?
[05:34] <tanja> speedstep?
[05:34] <tanja> what is that
[05:34] <SlimeyPete> tanja: it's a power-saving technology found in laptops
[05:35] <tanja> how can i check that, otherwise i use laptop yes
[05:35] <OlliK> !sound
[05:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:35] <rag> caris_mere: please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[05:35] <SlimeyPete> tanja: if it's a failry modern laptop thenit'll have speedstep. This means your processor will run slowly (800mhz) when you're not doing much, but when you run something very intensive it will speed up to 2ghz.
[05:36] <rag> caris_mere: u must use on /etc/network/interfaces, for when up interface, load rules
[05:36] <rag> is betterr
[05:36] <tanja> i see
[05:36] <rag> caris_mere: for security
[05:36] <caris_mere> rag: I can't use my internet, now that I've made these changes
[05:36] <rag> bye *
[05:36] <tanja> what do u suggest to do, to test it
[05:36] <ahmed> guys,, on kubuntu firefox used to work greatly now i try opening it , it shows down in the taskbar starting firefox but then closes with out even showing its window plzzz help
[05:36] <rag> caris_mere: stop iptables ;)
[05:37] <SlimeyPete> tanja: run a distributed computing client such as folding@home for a while, then check again.
[05:37] <caris_mere> rag: thanks
[05:38] <SlimeyPete> tanja: but make sure you remove the client afterwards (running a distributed computing client will drain your battery very quickly)
[05:38] <rag> caris_mere: np
[05:38] <tanja> i have it pluged in electricity
[05:38] <lola> ciao
[05:38] <lola> excuseme
[05:38] <lola> how can i
[05:38] <lola>  get to
[05:38] <lola> the italian
[05:39] <lola> window
[05:39] <lola> ???
[05:39] <dr_willis> !it
[05:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:43] <caris_mere> rag: I'm getting nowhere.  Is it possible to be a bit more clear?
[05:44] <caris_mere> rag: Can you tell me how to stop the iptables?
[05:49] <cyt> Hi all, what is the easy way to resize my photos to other resolution?
[05:53] <ubunturos> how do I set my screen resolution to 72 dpi using a GUI tool?
[05:53] <ubunturos> (just curious)
[05:57] <Captain_Haddock> cyt: maybe with GIMP..
[05:57] <Captain_Haddock> or you can try imagemagick.
[05:58] <cyt> Captain_Haddock: Thanks :)
[05:58] <DJServers> Can someone help me i am missing a file for mysqld the file is: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock has someone got that one?
[05:59] <arkanabar> every time I use kubuntu, /etc/resolv.conf reverts to default -- doesn't happen with GNOME/ubuntu.  How do I stop this?
[06:02] <Captain_Haddock> arkanabar: it probably happens when you run some kinda network config utility.
[06:02] <sivaji> !bittorrent
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bittorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <jrdnyquist> has anyone else had trouble in kbuntu feisty with nvidia restricted drivers + beryl? No matter what I try I can't get beryl working correctly and there are no prolems at all in Gnome
[06:03] <loxley_> arkanabar: its because you probably use dhcp, set static and it will not be updated
[06:03] <sivaji> !KTorrent
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <n0n4m3> does anyone know an easy program for writing html and php code... like dreamweaver...?
[06:04] <jrdnyquist> n0n4m3, http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html
[06:04] <Captain_Haddock> quanta, eclipse, bluefish etc.
[06:04] <n0n4m3> ok
[06:04] <n0n4m3> thanks :)
[06:05] <Latty> OK. I have got a friend, we both got keys set up, gave each other our public ones, set everything up in kopete, but we only see encrypted text, it doesn't get decrypted.
[06:05] <Latty> Could someone help?
[06:05] <OlliK> Yo everyone who helped me with my sound problem, I got it fixed now
[06:05] <Dragnslcr> OlliK- what was it?
[06:06] <OlliK> I had to edit some file /etc/modprobe.d/something and add there options intel8x0 ac97_quirk=3
[06:06] <OlliK> the mixer volumes are all messed up but at least the headphone jack works now
[06:07] <OlliK> Then I had to sudo update-modules and restart the system
[06:07] <sivaji> !shipit
[06:07] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[06:08] <arkanabar> Loxley_, Captain_Haddock, does this mean I'll have to sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf every single time I log into kubuntu?
[06:08] <jrdnyquist> is anyone here using beryl successfully with kubuntu feisty?
[06:08] <DJServers> !mysqlserver
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysqlserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <Captain_Haddock> arkanabar: you should try finding out which program is overwriting it.
[06:09] <stevec_> jrdnyquist: yeah, just installed it today actually
[06:09] <stevec_> !mysql
[06:09] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:09] <arkanabar> sounds good ... how?
[06:09] <jrdnyquist> stevec_, you running ati or nvidia?
[06:09] <n0n4m3> am
[06:09] <stevec_> !mysqld
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysqld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <n0n4m3> in bluefish
[06:09] <DJServers> can someone plz help me i need a file called mysqld.sock
[06:09] <Captain_Haddock> arkanabar: if you just want to fix it, I suppose you can just remove write permissions altogether :)
[06:09] <stevec_> jrdnyquist: ati
[06:09] <arkanabar> I don't think that's an option
[06:09] <dr_willis> DJServers,  where/why are you getting this info at?
[06:09] <jrdnyquist> stevec_, arggg :(
[06:09] <n0n4m3> is there the option you have the prewiev mode and then you type there and stuff and in the source mode is then there the code ?
[06:10] <DJServers> what?
[06:10] <stevec_> DJServers: have you tried to restart mysqld?
[06:10] <n0n4m3> anyone ?:D
[06:10] <DJServers> yeah but it dusnt work because it needs mysqld.sock and it is not in the map
[06:11] <stevec_> DJServers: quick google provided this link http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?11,42525,42525
[06:11] <arkanabar> captain_haddock, any suggestions how I could find out which part of kubuntu-desktop is overwriting /etc/resolv.conf ?
[06:11] <n0n4m3> anyone ?
[06:11] <n0n4m3> please
[06:11] <n0n4m3> :/
[06:11] <angasule> dr_willis: it's a wrapper file for the .foot files
[06:11] <jrdnyquist> n0n4m3, install it and find out
[06:12] <n0n4m3> i did it
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> oh dear god this has de-evolved into a windows-like help channel.
[06:12] <jrdnyquist> read the docs
[06:12] <stevec_> Daisuke_Ido: :-)
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not smiling.
[06:12] <dr_willis> arkanabar,  i recall seeing that issue befor. its some network service/feature thats doing it - if i rember right. I bet the forums have details.
[06:12] <bioflame> hello all
[06:13] <dr_willis> arkanabar,  i just cant rember what caused it.  :) had it happen once ages ago also.
[06:13] <bioflame> I have a Q?
[06:13] <bioflame> what is account server called on linux
[06:13] <dr_willis> account server?
[06:13] <stevec_> whats an account server? you mean like a directory, openldap?
[06:13] <arkanabar> dr_willis , thanks.  I'll search ubuntuforums for /etc/resolv.conf
[06:14] <bioflame> like AD for windows
[06:14] <stevec_> bioflame: openldap, i use it at home
[06:14] <bioflame> what server controls the account
[06:14] <stevec_> bioflame: bit tricky yo get going iirc
[06:14] <dr_willis> the 'root' user is the defacto controlling account. :) but access to 'root' is used with the 'sudo' command normally
[06:14] <dr_willis> and the 'first' user has permission to sudi.
[06:14] <dr_willis> sudo.
[06:14] <lied> hi
[06:16] <bioflame> i hit google got a bunch a BS
[06:16] <dr_willis> theres the ubuntu/kubuntu starter guides also.
[06:16] <bioflame> hmm good point
[06:16] <dr_willis> given how you asked the question. Im not suprised. :)
[06:16] <bioflame> lol
[06:17] <bioflame> i dont really know what to call it
[06:17] <lied> wish me luck, i'm just installing kubuntu :)
[06:17] <DJServers> No It Still dunst work that link you gave me
[06:17] <dr_willis> windows calles it the 'administrator' account.  most unix's call it the 'root' account.
[06:18] <bioflame> yeah
[06:18] <bioflame> not really what i am looking for
[06:18] <lied> dr_willis:  hm i think its called system under win
[06:18] <bioflame> windows call it AD
[06:18] <lied> Active Directory?
[06:18] <bioflame> is there an AD for linux
[06:18] <dr_willis> locate  mysqld.sock  -> cant find it at all.
[06:18] <bioflame> yeah
[06:18] <lied> bioflame:  LDAP :)
[06:18] <DJServers> stevec_ have you got mysql server? cant you send me the mysqld.sock
[06:18] <bioflame> LDAP is Linux AD?
[06:18] <dr_willis> Active Directory is not the same as the 'root' user account.  now is it. its a different.. err.. thing. :0
[06:19] <lied> bioflame:  hm not exactly
[06:19] <dr_willis> !ldap
[06:19] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[06:19] <lied> bioflame: active directory uses ldap
[06:20] <lied> bioflame:  but if you realy need a AD you have to use windows sry
[06:20] <bioflame> ok thanx all....I know what i a looking for now
[06:20] <rbrunhuber> lied: you can access active directory like ldap.
[06:20] <morphinex> hey folks, in xfce there is a way to make minimized windows into icons on the desktop - can KDE do this?
[06:20] <lied> rbrunhuber:  and what is in the backend of AD?
[06:21] <rbrunhuber> lied: afaik it's not a real ldap.
[06:21] <dr_willis> morphinex,   i saw a program to do JUST that  - its int he repos.. and i forget its name. :)
[06:21] <JohnM> anyone know how to get sound working on Toshiba Satellite Pro P100-465? Intel 945PM Express chipset btw
[06:21] <lied> rbrunhuber:  afaik it is ldap :)
[06:21] <angasule> morphinex: I hadn't seen that since windows 3.11 heh I have never seen it in KDE
[06:21] <raylu> to do what, dr_willis/morphinex?
[06:21] <dr_willis> morpheus_,  every time ya minimized a program it made a icon on the desktop that would unminimize it.
[06:21] <dr_willis> what was its name.. hmmm
[06:21] <morphinex> raylu: to make minimized windows into icons on the desktop
[06:22] <raylu> o.0
[06:22] <dr_willis> backstep - Draws icons for minimized windows on your desktop
[06:22] <lied> hm the installtion hangs by 24% :(
[06:23] <morphinex> dr_willis: thanks, I'll try it
[06:23] <ninina> I know this is a long shot, but does anyone in here know how to make it so I can view japanese fonts in a wordprocessor?
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> to be fair, win 3.11 was the best version of windows.
[06:23] <lied> "Dateien werden kopiert" copying the files
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> ninina: install language-support-jp
[06:23] <morphinex> Daisuke_Ido: I was playing with xubuntu, which has built-in support for this, and I liked it
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> morphinex: i run xubuntu on a 600mhz machine
[06:24] <JohnM> intel 945 chipset sound, anyone get it working?
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> nice little lightweight system
[06:24] <ninina> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks, some how I missed that when I was scanning the packages
[06:24] <morphinex> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, it is very slick, I run it on a couple slower/lower memory machines too. I thought aobut using it instead of KDE for awhile
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> no problem, it's a metapackage, you MIGHT need fonts that support kanji, but i'm not sure
[06:25] <morphinex> anyway, this backstep thing does exactly what I want, thanks guys
[06:26] <morphinex> I have tons of empty desktop space, but I hate top/bottom bars
[06:27] <dr_willis> i hate things on the desktop. i perfer bars. :)
[06:27] <dr_willis> when you alsays have your programs fullscreen'ed  ya dont see things on the desktop
[06:27] <morphinex> never could get all the bars to play nice across two monitors either
[06:28] <angasule> I have an empty desktop and a single bar with almost nothing in it
[06:28] <angasule> katapult for teh win :D
[06:28] <dr_willis> dont like katapult either
[06:28] <dr_willis> :P
[06:28] <angasule> why not??
[06:28] <dr_willis> i have the 5 programs or so i got on a panel. with some other applets in the panel for info. its all i need.
[06:29] <ninina> Daisuke_Ido: it works with some programs only hehe, I'll just have to figure out what they are
[06:29] <angasule> oh, a single bar is enough for that
[06:29] <dr_willis> plus katapult does not play nicely with the use of XDMCP/XIMNG on my windows machine
[06:29] <dr_willis> Xming. :)
[06:29] <kevin> hio, does somebody know anything about the mysterious 28% problem with the network.manager?
[06:29] <angasule> no idea what xmastreeing is
[06:29] <dr_willis> my current linux desktop machine is down stairs. I jsut 'xdmcp' to it from the windows box's
[06:30] <morphinex> I used the suse menu thing -- can't remember its name -- along with kooldock
[06:30] <dr_willis> ijust wish these disrtos would have a option to uise the 'default/vanilla' kde/gnome layouts.
[06:30] <angasule> dr_willis: ah, remote X?
[06:30] <raylu> kevin, wireless?
[06:30] <dr_willis> all these little tweaks often cause more problems from a 'tech' support point of view
[06:32] <JohnM> hello pete
[06:34] <arkanabar> dr_willis, captain_haddock, loxley_, I found what I hope is an answer:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128254 post #13, option 3.  I've applied it, now to try it out.
[06:35] <Ace2016> Hi all
[06:36] <Ace2016> anyone know how to get tty to keep the output, so that i can switch to xorg and back to tty and use shift+page up to go back in history?
[06:36] <arkanabar> X restart via ctrl-alt-backspace, and things are working fine after relogging into kubuntu desktop!  yay!
[06:37] <dr_willis> hmm.. i wonder why restarting X would affect your network settings :)
[06:37] <dr_willis> but if it works
[06:37] <dr_willis> Ace2016,  check out 'screen'
[06:37] <Captain_Haddock> arkanabar: you might want to restart the PC itself.
[06:38] <arkanabar> well, I didn't want to reboot entirely ... and it was always logging into kubuntu that blew it before.  Yes, I'll try complete reboot.
[06:41] <cashvalentine^^> How do add/delete/change fonts in kubuntu?  It ain't in System Settings.
[06:42] <arkanabar> hah!  seems to have actually worked!
[06:42] <lola> sorry is there anybody who know haw to connect AIM?????
[06:42] <raylu> cashvalentine^^, to install, you can just right-click and install from the context menu on a .ttf
[06:42] <arkanabar> cashvalentine:  open konqueror to fonts:/// and drag them in .... then, there's a script to run, I can't remember the name.
[06:42] <lola> how*
[06:42] <Jucato> cashvalentine^^: System Settings -> Appearance -> Font Installer
[06:42] <raylu> lola, you can use kopete or gaim
[06:43] <lola> and then??
[06:43] <arkanabar> lola -- Kopete should walk you through it.
[06:43] <lola> but it doesn't
[06:43] <raylu> lola, what do you see when you start kopete?
[06:44] <cashvalentine^^> Jucato: thx
[06:44] <lied_> hello
[06:44] <lola> nothing..i only see a white page
[06:44] <bioflame> ok i found out how AD and linux talk
[06:44] <raylu> lola, settings > configure kopete
[06:44] <ahmed> hi,guys i have just installed ubuntu , and i was wondering how will i install my adsl usb modem driver on it ? can any one help plz... adsl usb star modem um1040
[06:45] <bioflame> what is the user account management software for linux?????????????/
[06:45] <lied_> is there an option to install kubuntu from the internet and not from cd?
[06:45] <raylu> bioflame, enough with the question marks.
[06:45] <lied_> bioflame:  bash?
[06:45] <raylu> bioflame, kmenu > system settings > users and groups
[06:45] <lied_> bioflame:  what do you want to do? sudo adduser -m <username>
[06:45] <raylu> lied_, do you have a copy of linux already installed? there is the kubuntu-desktop package
[06:46] <lied_> raylu: no
[06:46] <ahmed> hi,guys i have just installed ubuntu , and i was wondering how will i install my adsl usb modem driver on it ? can any one help plz... adsl usb star modem um1040
[06:46] <lola> raylu i see that you are expert  with linux...how can i connect MSN??
[06:46] <arkanabar> lied_, I started with an ubuntu 6.06 liveCD, upgraded to edgy, then did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:46] <raylu> then what do you suppose will be doing the installing? it needs to boot into to something that can install kubuntu
[06:46] <lied_> raylu: i want to install but the isntallcd has got some errors. i have no other cdrom here and no cd burner
[06:46] <raylu> lola, lol...i'm nowhere near an expert. do the same thing for aim, but choose msn as the protocol
[06:47] <lied_> lola:  you can connect by kopete
[06:47] <raylu> lied_, what's the error? you can also install a copy of kubuntu in windows
[06:47] <Lectus> Hello! I installed beryl and now X won't start! It hangs on a screen with the NVIDIA logo. How to solve this?
[06:47] <lola> ok...i just need to connect aim
[06:47] <lied_> i have no windows here ...
[06:47] <BluesKaj> ahmed , have you checked to see if it's listed in : system settings/network settings /network connections
[06:47] <lola> raylu..but how??
[06:48] <lied_> normally i use gentoo but my harddisk crashed and i want a quick solution so i pick kubuntu
[06:48] <raylu> lola, settings > configure kopete > accounts > new
[06:48] <Jucato> !netinstall
[06:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:48] <arkanabar> ahmed, the driver may be in restricted repositories, try enabling those
[06:48] <Jucato> lied_: ^^^^^
[06:48] <raylu> lied_, what are you in right now?
[06:48] <lied_> raylu:  kubuntu livecd
[06:49] <lied_> Jucato: thx
[06:49] <arkanabar> lied_, why not just install it from there?
[06:49] <Lectus> Help me! Installed beryl and now Kubuntu won't start!
[06:49] <ahmed> guys does kubuntu have the pnp function ?? plug nd play// i mean if i connected a hard ware will it detect it automatically once its plugeD ??
[06:49] <lola> raylu..but if i open settings there isn't configure kopete
[06:49] <raylu> lola, what is there?
[06:50] <bioflame> I want to know what the program is called.. I know how to use Bash to make accounts... Is there a name for it ?
[06:50] <raylu> lied_, oh...i thought you couldn't get into the livecd. in that case, what's the error when you try to install?
[06:50] <s330d3r> have an issue with getting my wifi working on my dell lattitude 8200 (card is Lucent WaveLAN/IEEE)  sees the card, installs the drivers, but then cannot connect to any wifi networks
[06:50] <arkanabar> ahmed , give it a shot.  you are unlikely to break anything.
[06:50] <lied_> raylu:  it hangs by 24% and i get cdrom errors on the terminal
[06:51] <raylu> lied_, o.0. i would tell you to check cdrom integrity, but i suppose that's not going to help
[06:51] <lied_> raylu:  but i think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux so it can go :) i create another partition and install grub :)
[06:51] <lied_> raylu:  done this already one file is corrupted
[06:52] <lola> raylu:configure toolbars,plugins,notification,global shortcuts,shortcuts...and..configure(alone)
[06:52] <arkanabar> does Konqueror have a keyboard shortcut to move between tabs?
[06:52] <raylu> lola, ...oops. just configure, then
[06:52] <Jucato> arkanabar: Ctrl+, and Ctrl+. or set your own
[06:52] <raylu> arkanabar, settings > configure shortcuts
[06:53] <lola> raylu:ok
[06:53] <lola> then??
[06:53] <lola> raylu
[06:54] <arkanabar> ^[ and ^]  are working defaults :)
[06:55] <lola> raylu what shoul i do?
[06:55] <lied_> can someone please write me this url (http://tinyurl.com/38p84c) when i'm comming back (have to reboot ...)
[06:55] <Jucato> arkanabar: yeah. but the Ctrl+,/. work on all KDE apps with tabs (except Konsole)
[06:56] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a tinyurl, why not just write it down
[06:56] <cox377> Hello all, i'm having some probs.. could someone check out this paste bin and tell me what i'm doing wrong
[06:56] <cox377> http://pastebin.ca/498704
[06:56] <Lectus> I installed beryl on Kubuntu 7.04 and now KDE can't start. Any help?
[06:56] <BFH-Kub> Any Second Life experts on the board /
[06:57] <BFH-Kub> ?
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> 1) this isn't a "board", and 2) you'd be better off going to the second life forums
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: ati or nvidia?
[06:58] <Lectus> nvidia
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> got the newest drivers installed?
[06:58] <Lectus> yes
[06:58] <BFH-Kub> Nvidia
[06:58] <BFH-Kub> tried loads of stuff
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: kde won't start at all?
[06:59] <esa> can somebody help me on getting sound working on Intel ICH4 card with Kubuntu 7.04?
[06:59] <arkanabar> Jucato, thanks, I'll remember that.  Just couldn't see the ., in the dialog
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> and what instructions did you dollow to install beryl?
[06:59] <BFH-Kub> It starts up now, I get the SL login screen, but then the screen freezes about halfway through init
[06:59] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: yes... it hangs
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> BFH-Kub: like i said, the SL forum would be a better place to ask about that.
[07:00] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: Can't find the link right now... I just want to remove beryl and make it work as before.
[07:00] <BFH-Kub> I'm sorry I offended your manlyhood. It won't happen again.
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: beryl shouldn't preclude kde from working at all
[07:00] <Lectus> well, it starts very slow
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> BFH-Kub: no need for an attitude, just trying to point you to people that would probably know more about your problem than us
[07:01] <Lectus> almost hanging
[07:01] <ahmed> guys does kubuntu have java runtime enviroment installed ?
[07:01] <arkanabar> lectus, maybe sudo apt-get uninstall beryl ?
[07:01] <Lectus> I think my machine isn't ready for beryl
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: possibly not, you can remove it and see what happens
[07:01] <Lectus> I tried that
[07:01] <lied> hello again
[07:01] <Lectus> but now it doesn't start at all
[07:01] <lied> url please :)
[07:01] <esa> Intel 83801DB-ICH4 on Kubuntu 7.04... Has somebody an idea?
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> lied: no one wrote it down, sorry.
[07:01] <ahmed> does any one know a good java ide on linux then ??
[07:02] <Lectus> the only thing I can start is recovery mode
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> ahmed: how about... SUN?
[07:02] <lied> Daisuke_Ido: lol :)
[07:02] <esa> Ahmed... ECLIPSE
[07:02] <lied> Daisuke_Ido: scroll up with "page up"
[07:02] <DJServers> !socket
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about socket - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <arkanabar> lectus, I may not have the correct package name.
[07:02] <ahmed> well other that eclipse
[07:02] <DJServers> someone where to get a mysqld.sock file?
[07:02] <ahmed> cause eclipse swing designer is baddd
[07:02] <DJServers> nows
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> lied: i was being sarcastic
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: did you use XGL?
[07:03] <ahmed> Daisuke_Ido: SUN ??
[07:03] <equex> how can i get rid of ati propiteary driver from 7.04 ? installing them was probably not a good idea, now i cant reenable my 3d
[07:03] <DJServers> where do i get a mysqld.sock file?\
[07:03] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: yes
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ahmed: sun's java sdk, but that doesn't really help the IDE part...
[07:03] <BluesKaj> Lectus, ctrl+alt+F1 at the prompt sudo apt-get remove beryl , then ctrl+alt+F7 , should get you back to the login page
[07:03] <ahmed> YEA
[07:03] <ahmed> am askin abt an ide
[07:03] <ahmed> i used to use jcreator
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: you have an nvidia card
[07:04] <ahmed> is there is a linux version for it ?
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> and you chose to use XGL
[07:04] <Lectus> BluesKaj: I'll try... thanks
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: he used xgl which means he had to edit the kde startup script thing
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> which means broken all to heck
[07:05] <DJServers> where do i get a mysqld.sock file?
[07:05] <BluesKaj> well , let him try that first
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> and with an nvidia card...  should have just installed the drivers and beryl and been good with it
[07:05] <arkanabar> blueskaj, lectus told me he tried sudo apt-get uninstall beryl already
[07:05] <BluesKaj> he may have to reboot
[07:06] <Daisuke_Ido> instead of following the instructions to get beryl working with an ati card (XGL instead of AIGLX)
[07:06] <BluesKaj> it's hard to remove when you're running in X , arkanabar
[07:06] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: I fount it
[07:07] <Lectus> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia was this tutorial
[07:07] <ubuntu> hey
[07:08] <ubuntu> I need help
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> WARNING: THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BREAK FEISTY IN SOME INSTANCES, BREAKING THE WHOLE GUI SYSTEM AND NOT ALLOWING THE UBUNTU GUI TO LOAD SINCE NVIDIA CANNOT LOAD THE KERNEL MODULE
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry for caps, copy/paste
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> !ask | ubuntu
[07:08] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:08] <artabrahao> How install vnc server?
[07:08] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: What a pity ubuntu has no meaningful runlevels, or you could just boot to runlevel three to fix things like that.
[07:08] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: =\
[07:08] <lied> artabrahao:  sudo aptitude install tightvnc
[07:08] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: What to do now?
[07:08] <BluesKaj> you can't remove beryl when X is running , if beryl has broken it ...has to be reconfigged from the TTY prompt ...I know cuz it happened to me .
[07:08] <lied> artabrahao:  sudo aptitude install x11vnc
[07:09] <ubuntu> I'm on a liveCD in ubuntu now. I dual boot XP and ubuntu
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> jhutchins: was that sarcasm or is ubuntu actually lacking runlevels?
[07:09] <ubuntu> can someone read my forum post about my predicament?
[07:09] <raylu> Daisuke_Ido, it's not that big of a problem. as long as you've backed up your xorg.conf, you can always restore it in a console
[07:09] <ubuntu> http://www.binrev.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30578
[07:09] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: It lacks meaningful runlevels.
 tks
[07:09] <lied> ubuntu:  your are in _k_ubuntu!
[07:09] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: 2-5 are identical.
[07:09] <ubuntu> yeah, this is the default channel Konversation logged me into
[07:09] <lied> artabrahao:  these are two different vnc server!
[07:10] <david2_> I used the webbrowser to set up a printer
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> raylu: that's great, except to start kde with xgl you have to edit your kde startup script which isn't in xorg.conf :)
[07:10] <lied> artabrahao:  have also a look at i thinks its called krfb
[07:10] <david2_> I got it going on that computer but I want to share it with others
[07:10] <compilerwriter> Am I correct in believing vmware to be installed with 7.04 already?
[07:10] <jhutchins> !cups
[07:10] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:10] <david2_> I aint doing it right
 is the same of sudo -apt get install x11vnc?
[07:10] <david2_> Cool
[07:11] <lied> artabrahao:  yes
[07:11] <lied> artabrahao:  there are many implementations of vnc in linux...
[07:11] <lied> artabrahao: i normally use tightvnc
[07:12] <lied> but if you want to access the exactky same desktop what you just see you have to use x11vnc
 the client is the same for windows?
[07:13] <lied> artabrahao:  hm? tightvnc is also available for win
[07:13] <BluesKaj> !easyubuntu
[07:13] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:13] <compilerwriter> !vmware
[07:13] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:13] <stevec_> DJServers: mysql.sock should be created when the server starts
[07:13] <jhutchins> See also #vmware
[07:13] <david2_> How do you find the name of your printer
[07:14] <raylu> artabrahao, you can also use krdc
[07:14] <raylu> which comes with kde
[07:14] <david2_> apparently pulling it ogff localhost:631 doesnt work
[07:14] <jhutchins> david2_: localhost:631 should be the cups configuration system.
[07:15] <stevec_> tightvnc gets my vote anarl
[07:15] <david2_> no KIDDING!
[07:15] <david2_> IO can read
[07:15] <david2_> just cant type
[07:15] <jhutchins> david2_: Well, you should be fine then, won't need any help from me.
[07:15] <temceln> you are too technical
 what is krdc?
[07:16] <david2_> "ipp://192.168.0.1/printers/<name of printer>" blah blah
[07:16] <david2_> so something sint right
[07:16] <lied> artabrahao: raylu krdc is gui frontend for vnc in kde
[07:16] <david2_> I copy the info off the pother computer and it aint working
 what is krfb?
[07:18] <lied> artabrahao:  oops sorry krfb is for desktop sharing and krdc is for connecting to vnc
[07:19] <DJServers> has  someone got the file: mysqld.sock ??
[07:19] <raylu> artabrahao, remote desktop client
[07:19] <raylu> =rdc
[07:20] <raylu> rfb = remote desktop sharing (server, i guess)
 I'm not using kde, I'm using gnu(?) does kfdb works with a vnc client?
[07:20] <raylu> DJServers, what do you need it for?
[07:20] <raylu> artabrahao, krdc works with vnc
[07:20] <raylu> *servers, yes
[07:20] <lied> and rdp (windows remote bullshit)
[07:21] <DJServers> i need the file for my mysql server it dusnt create the socket any more
[07:21] <DJServers> raylu, do you have it?
 works with kge and gnome?
[07:22] <lied> DJServers:  can you give me the exact error message
[07:22] <DJServers> ok wait a sec
[07:22] <tin> #freebsd
[07:22] <tin> oop
[07:23] <DJServers> frank@Computer2:~$ mysql
[07:23] <DJServers> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[07:23] <DJServers> here you go
[07:23] <david2_> nothjing is happening the job is just stiitng there pending
[07:23] <DJServers> that file isnt in my system
[07:24] <stevec_> DJServers: whats the output of ls -lh /var/run/mysqld
[07:24] <raylu> DJServers, that means you haven't configured the connection properly
[07:25] <raylu> artabrahao, it should. most kde apps work in gnome
[07:25] <DJServers> frank@Computer2:~$ ls -lh /var/run/mysqld
[07:25] <DJServers> total 0
[07:25] <lied> DJServers:  mysqlclient -u root -p
[07:25] <stevec_> DJServers: whats the output of ls -lh /var/run (only interested in the mysqld folder)
[07:25] <lied> so i have to reboot
[07:25] <lied> cu
[07:25] <DJServers> stevec_ how to see that
[07:26] <stevec_> ls -lh /var/run
[07:26] <stevec_> just let me see the output of the line of mysqld
[07:26] <DJServers> typ in konsole right?
[07:26] <stevec_> yep
[07:26] <DJServers> wtf that is much
[07:26] <stevec_> DJServers: im reading from this link btw http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-19402.html
[07:27] <DJServers> and that is?
[07:27] <artabrahao> what is the remote desktop, how it works?
[07:27] <stevec_> DJServers: btw you are getting that error whilst trying to start your server right?
[07:27] <DJServers> yeah
[07:28] <stevec_> DJServers: im after this line - drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql   mysql     88 May 20 12:27 mysqld
[07:28] <stevec_> DJServers: from ls -lh /var/run
[07:29] <DJServers> drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql      root         40 2007-04-03 13:08 mysqld
[07:29] <DJServers> i get that
[07:29] <DJServers> but how to solve the prob whit the mysqld.sock file?
[07:30] <DJServers> stevec_ , cant you send me your file?
[07:31] <dr0hne> hi, I'
[07:32] <stevec_> DJServers: that won't help, whats in your my.cnf
[07:32] <dr0hne> m using ubuntu 6.10 and the sound goes calm after a while
[07:32] <DJServers> wait a sec stevec
[07:32] <OlliK> can anyone help me to find the way to change the background color and appearance of the K-menu?
[07:33] <OlliK> I found way to change the whole panel but when I click on the K-button, the menu background didn't change the same as the panel
[07:33] <s330d3r> can anyone here help me with a wifi problem?
[07:34] <DJServers> Stevec where to send it to you? private msg is blocked
[07:34] <stevec_> DJServers: paste it to pastebin.ca
[07:34] <DJServers> to what?
[07:34] <DJServers> whats that?
[07:35] <raylu> !pastebin
[07:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:35] <stevec_> just put it in your browser and paste your my.cnf in it
[07:35] <DJServers> o ok
[07:36] <DJServers> here is the link
[07:36] <DJServers> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21723/
[07:37] <DJServers> seeing any wrong line's?
[07:37] <stevec_> DJServers: hmm, nah it looks ok
[07:38] <stevec_> DJServers: try chgrp mysql /var/run/mysqld
[07:38] <stevec_> in a conole
[07:38] <stevec_> console
[07:38] <stevec_> actually nah that not going to do anything
[07:38] <stevec_> DJServers: how are you starting the server?
[07:39] <DJServers> whit: sudo mysql start
[07:39] <stevec_> DJServers: and where about its your my.cnf file located?
[07:40] <stevec_> DJServers: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start ??
[07:40] <DJServers> it is in: /etc/mysql
[07:41] <DJServers> fail
[07:41] <DJServers> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start  = fail
[07:41] <stevec_> DJServers: just installed mysql on my workstation and it starts no problem
[07:41] <stevec_> DJServers: didnt change any config
[07:41] <DJServers> nope
[07:41] <DJServers> i just installed it
[07:41] <DJServers> mayby reinstall it?
[07:42] <stevec_> can you post contents of /var/log/mysql.err and /var/log/mysql.log
[07:42] <DJServers> what?
[07:42] <stevec_> cat /var/log/mysql.err and put it in pastebin
[07:42] <DJServers> okay
[07:43] <DJServers> there is noting in that file :P
[07:43] <stevec_> DJServers: i'd just try to uninstall it and reinstall again, mine instaleld no probelm
[07:44] <stevec_> unless any else has any other ideas?
[07:44] <DJServers> but do it unstall it and re install?
[07:44] <DJServers> do i need to do that?
[07:45] <stevec_> DJServers: try "sudo mysqld" and let me know the output
[07:45] <DJServers> ok wait a sec
[07:45] <DJServers> paste it here?
[07:45] <stevec_> better not, use pastebin
[07:45] <stevec_> !pastebin
[07:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:45] <DJServers> okay
[07:46] <DJServers> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21724/
[07:47] <llp78> i need to burn a uif file in linux - any ideas ?
[07:47] <stevec_> DJServers: hmm, Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address
[07:47] <stevec_> DJServers: can you do a "ps ax | grep mysql"
[07:48] <DJServers> frank@Computer2:~$ ps ax | grep mysql
[07:48] <DJServers>  9274 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep mysql
[07:48] <stevec_> whats the ip of your pc? is it the same as you have in my.cnf?
[07:48] <DJServers> mayby need to change the bindip in 127.0.0.1 ??
[07:48] <DJServers> no
[07:49] <stevec_> DJServers: change ip in my.cnf to 127.0.0.1
[07:49] <DJServers> ok wait a sec
[07:49] <Zabulus> ok, i need some more help, trying to install feisty over dapper
[07:50] <DJServers> and now try to start it again?
[07:50] <stevec_> DJServers: yes
[07:50] <Zabulus> trying to set up the partitions, dual boot system, so cant wipe the whole hd
[07:51] <DJServers> whit: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start ?
[07:51] <stevec_> DJServers: yes
[07:51] <DJServers> it says
[07:51] <DJServers> frank@Computer2:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:51] <DJServers>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ OK ] 
[07:51] <DJServers> /etc/init.d/mysql: line 122: /etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory
[07:51] <DJServers> now it works right?
[07:52] <stevec_> DJServers: bloody hell man!! do a ps ax | grep mysql again
[07:52] <stevec_> DJServers: you should see mysqld processes
[07:53] <stevec_> DJServers: 'mysql -u root' should give you access to mysql console
[07:53] <muaddib> anyone familiar with how KAudioCreator works?
[07:53] <DJServers> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21726/    there it stands
[07:54] <stevec_> DJServers: Finally!!!! you were trying to bind to an incorrect ip address, if you want that sql server accessible over the network you will have to change the bind ip to the ip the server has
[07:54] <Zabulus> can someone help me set up the partitions for installing linux?
[07:54] <DJServers> lawl
[07:54] <DJServers> well thx  :P
[07:54] <DJServers> finaly it works :p\
[07:54] <stevec_> DJServers: shouldnt be getting this tho - /etc/init.d/mysql: line 122: /etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory
[07:54] <Captain_Haddock> Samba issues :( I have the same problem as this chap: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2245430&postcount=7
[07:54] <Captain_Haddock> Any ideas?
[07:54] <stevec_> DJServers: but never mind, you can getting working on it now at least!
[07:54] <DJServers> yeah
[07:55] <Captain_Haddock> Samba installation issues rather.
[07:55] <DJServers> one last question how to make an account lol
[07:55] <stevec_> DJServers: been a long time since i did any mysql, i'd read the docs on mysql.com
[07:56] <DJServers> but i mean a user for phpmyadmin is root but what is the pass
[07:56] <mikkael> i need help to get twinview enabled by default when i start my computer. nvidia-settings creates a xorg.conf that doesnt start x, but i can enable twinview "on the fly", need to push "apply what's possible" though ..
[07:56] <artabrahao> when I type sudo aptitude install x11vnc the erro is that cant find a packag x11vnc
[07:56] <stevec_> DJServers: don't know what the default are, just blank i think
[07:56] <Zabulus> when setting up the partition for the root file system, do i use primary or logical?
[07:56] <stevec_> Zabulus: depends
[07:57] <DJServers> wait i take a look
[07:57] <stevec_> !partition
[07:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:57] <DJServers> yeah its blank
[07:57] <stevec_> DJServers: ok make sure you change that!
[07:57] <DJServers> yeah :P
[07:57] <DJServers> gonne do it right now :P\
[07:57] <Zabulus> ok, i have a dual boot, so not gonna reformat whole thing, trying to install over my dapper
[07:58] <Zabulus> whats the best way to do that?
[07:58] <stevec_> Zabulus: have you tried google?
[07:58] <DJServers> where the hell to change it :P
[07:58] <Zabulus> i kind of figured this would be a better place to find info on it
[07:59] <stevec_> DJServers: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/default-privileges.html
[07:59] <stevec_> Zabulus: at least have a look first before asking here
[07:59] <david2_> woohoo
[07:59] <david2_> finally causght the typos
[07:59] <david2_> printer works
[07:59] <OlliK> Alright now I got the Kmenu transparent, but I would still like to change the background color of it. I just went through the whole list of colors in the Appearance -> Colors but that all seems to be colors for different windows etc, but not for the Kmenu. Does anyone know where to change the background color of the Kmenu?
[08:00] <JohnM> hi, i've just installed kubuntu, but have no sound, and nothing is muted in alsa mixer, my sound chipset is an intel 82801G (ICH 7 family), anyone know what's wrong? thanks in advance =)
[08:00] <mikkael> OlliK: it got the color of drop down menus
[08:01] <stevec_> JohnM: someone has same prob a bit earlier, you havent got headphones plugged in have you?
[08:01] <Zabulus> JohnM: i had that same problem, trying going into your bios and disabling the onboard sound
[08:01] <Captain_Haddock> stevec_: I did :P Please put me out of my misery :(
[08:02] <Captain_Haddock> This is driving me up the wall and out of the roof :/
[08:02] <stevec_> Captain_Haddock: not directed at you :-)
[08:02] <david2_> Better if people just tell you teh answer didn't you know that?
[08:02] <stevec_> Captain_Haddock: what problems with samba
[08:02] <OlliK> mikkael: Where can I change the color of drop down menus?
[08:02] <david2_> Easier top rememeber lol
[08:02] <stevec_> david2_: just sheer laziness
[08:02] <Captain_Haddock> stevec_: I have the same problem as this chap: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2245430&postcount=7
[08:02] <jorunnm> I want to look through the log from what the sudo user has done in konsole the last two days. Is that possible?
[08:02] <DJServers> stevec_, Thx You Very Much Dude! :P
[08:02] <DJServers> your the best!
[08:02] <mikkael> OlliK: Kcontrol, colors, the background color of the thing if you click on "file" or so
[08:02] <JohnM> i dont have headphones plugged in and its onboard sound so wouldnt disabling it be counterproductive?
[08:03] <DJServers> but i now gonne install my site
[08:03] <stevec_> Captain_Haddock: sorry, absolutrly no idea :-(
[08:03] <artabrahao> when I type sudo aptitude install x11vnc the erro is that cant find a packag x11vnc
[08:03] <stevec_> DJServers: no prob
[08:03] <Captain_Haddock> stevec_: np, thanks for looking :)
[08:04] <stevec_> Captain_Haddock: im new to ubuntu so the package installation stuff i dont understand properly, just moved from gentoo myself
[08:04] <jorunnm> how can I view the last commandoes the sudo user has done. Isn't there a log file?
[08:04] <stevec_> jorunnm: .bash_history ?
[08:04] <jorunnm> stevec_: yes
[08:04] <Captain_Haddock> stevec_: ah cool. Isn't that something of a rarity? Gentoo to Ubuntu (hey, that rhymes!)
[08:05] <OlliK> mikkael: That's odd, because it changes something that is called "window background", and it seems the menu backgrond color doesn't change from that...
[08:05] <stevec_> Captain_Haddock: got sick of the compiles on my workstatsion, still keep gentoo on my servers
[08:05] <OlliK> mikkael: Even though I clicked on the dropdown-menu in the image
[08:05] <Captain_Haddock> I see
[08:05] <stevec_> jorunnm: are they not in that file?
[08:06] <jorunnm> stevec_: so that's a file... Where?
[08:06] <OlliK> mikkael: Maybe there is a separate color selection in some other Styles, I'm using .net style right now
[08:06] <stevec_> home directory of the user, e.g. /home/user/.bash_history
[08:07] <jorunnm> stevec_: thanks
[08:07] <DJServers> steve_ , how do you talk in red like that?
[08:08] <stevec_> DJServers: type the oether users name properly, type stev then press tab and it should auto complete
[08:08] <DJServers> steve_
[08:08] <DJServers> tlawl\
[08:08] <n0n4m3> lol
[08:08] <n0n4m3> :>
[08:08] <DJServers> doesnt matter\
[08:08] <stevec_> just type 'stev" then press tab
[08:09] <stevec_> for you i type 'dj' then press tab
[08:09] <artabrahao> How install a vnc server?
[08:09] <DJServers> stevec_: test
[08:09] <DJServers> the
[08:09] <stevec_> artabrahao: apt-get may help
[08:09] <DJServers> wtf
[08:09] <stevec_> DJServers: thats it !!!
[08:09] <DJServers> lawl
[08:09] <n0n4m3> :)
[08:09] <DJServers> stevec_:  Yeah i think so :P
[08:10] <stevec_> artabrahao: start adept-manager search for vnc, surely you can work it out from there!
[08:10] <DJServers> someone nows a good site script?
[08:10] <ahmed>  guys help plz. i have just installed kde on ubuntu , when i open the start menu some of the application icons doesnt show up....
[08:10] <Jack3> hey guys
[08:11] <Jack3> this is really screwed up, i restarted ubuntu, and now my wirless card doesnt seem to exist, but my ethernet still works
[08:11] <Jack3> my wireless was eth1
[08:11] <Jack3> but now i only have eth0, my ethernet
[08:11] <stevec_> Jack3: whats the output of "dmesg | grep eth"
 artabrahao: start adept-manager search for vnc
[08:11] <ahmed>  guys help plz. i have just installed kde on ubuntu , when i open the start menu some of the application icons doesnt show up....
[08:12] <raylu> ahmed, which ones?
 start adept-manager search for vnc?
[08:12] <raylu> oh. wait, i remember that happening
[08:12] <raylu> ahmed, the gnome one's won't show up, iirc. that's normal
[08:12] <ahmed> hmm
[08:12] <ahmed> wat should i do then
[08:12] <ahmed> but they run though
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> ahmed: add them manually
[08:12] <raylu> you can either just leave it or edit the menu and put them back in
[08:12] <stevec_> artabrahao: clck the start menu button, go to system, select adept-manager, when that starts type vnc in the search box
[08:13] <Jack3> stevec_, http://pastebin.ca/498824
[08:13] <ahmed> edit the meNU ?
[08:13] <stevec_> :-s
[08:13] <ahmed> u mean change every single icon ?
[08:13] <raylu> ahmed, basically...yeah :P
[08:13] <ahmed> ouch
[08:13] <ahmed> one more thing then
[08:13] <stevec_> Jack3: hmm, yes it does seem to have vanished!!!
[08:13] <ahmed> when i try to switch to 3d mode in the chess game it mentions something abd glide or some 3d driver and doesnt work
[08:14] <ahmed> any idea abt that ?
[08:14] <stevec_> Jack3: card firmly inserted in your machine?
[08:14] <Jack3> stevec_, i tried ifconfig eth1 up also
[08:14] <Jack3> stevec_, its built in wirless
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> ahmed: what video card?
[08:14] <ahmed> ati radeon x1800 mobility
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> k, are you using default drivers?
[08:14] <stevec_> Jack3: if it doesn't show up on dmesg it isn't there basically
[08:14] <ahmed> but already recognized in restricted drivers and worked
[08:14] <DJServers> what is a good  site for webhosting?
[08:15] <Daisuke_Ido> odd
[08:15] <ahmed> using fglrx driver
[08:15] <Jack3> stevec_, then wtf happened???????
[08:15] <Jack3> how can a wifi connection disapear
[08:15] <stevec_> Jack3: don't know, could the card of borked maybe?
[08:16] <Jack3> last thing i did was install a bunch of ubuntustudio apps
[08:16] <llp78> DJServers design-a-host.com is very cheap
[08:16] <stevec_> Jack3: ah its builtin! im not sure then, unles it's broken
[08:16] <ulrich> hey.. does anyone know where i can upload wallpapers to the wallpaperbase of kde?
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> servage.net
[08:16] <Jack3> i doubt it randomyl broke on a reboot
[08:17] <Jack3> it was workin perfect before
[08:17] <Jack3> fuck
[08:17] <stevec_> Jack3: ive seen stranger!! try a boot disk and see if it's recognised in that
[08:17] <Jack3> maybe i should start ubuntu in failsafe
[08:17] <ahmed> guys how to make the cube efffect in kubuntu
[08:17] <Jack3> and see if it gives an error when trying to bring it up
[08:17] <ahmed> know wat i mean,,
[08:17] <Daisuke_Ido> ahmed: beryl
[08:17] <stevec_> !beryl
[08:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:17] <Jack3> ahmed, beryl
[08:17] <ahmed> i wanna play a little bit with kubuntu effects
[08:17] <jmichaelx> i just finished resizing the ntfs partition on my harddrive, and made a new ext3 partition, however the information about my partitions that shows up in konqueror is now all wrong. to i need to get the PC to update something for it to get all of the the new info about the changed partitions??
[08:18] <llp78> ahmed gets boring very quick does the cube..
 a lot of vnc viewer and vnc password but none vnc server
[08:18] <stevec_> jmichaelx: you tried a good old microsoft style reboot
[08:18] <stevec_> artabrahao: theres a package called bloody vncserver!
[08:18] <jmichaelx> stevec_: yeah, rebooted several times
[08:19] <DJServers> llp78: i mean a site script so people can buy a domain from me?
[08:19] <sercik> Hi people
[08:19] <llp78> artabrahao just do a sudo apt-get install vncserver
[08:19] <stevec_> artabrahao: infact press alt-f2, then type krfb
[08:20] <jmichaelx> stevec_: konqueror now shows a 76 GB partition that does not (and never did) exist
[08:20] <raylu> jmichaelx, try qtparted
[08:20] <raylu> konqueror only shows mounted partition
[08:20] <raylu> s
[08:20] <stevec_> yeah i seconf qtparted
[08:20] <llp78> DJServers: havent a clue then.. sorry
[08:20] <mweijts> !beryl
[08:20] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:21] <jmichaelx> raylu: i used gparted to make the partition, and the partitions show up fine in it
[08:21] <sercik> How can i change at startup the owneer of /dev/net/tun??
[08:21] <llp78> jmichaelx: what does sudo fdisk -l
[08:21] <jmichaelx> raylu: why would konqueror show a 76GB partition that doesn't exist?
[08:22] <michael__> stevec_, i fixed it
[08:22] <michael__> but something is odd
[08:23] <ahmed> guys ,, wat candy eye features are there in ubuntu other than beryl ??
[08:23] <jmichaelx> llp78: the partitions seem to show up ok there
[08:23] <jmichaelx> brb
[08:23] <Jack3> apparently on my boot up menu, i have now 4 choices, ubuntu generic and ubuntu generic failsafe, and ubuntu latenecy and ubuntu latenecy failsafe
[08:23] <raylu> ahmed, compiz
[08:23] <ahmed> wat does it do then
[08:23] <Jack3> i booted up the generic and it worked
[08:23] <Jack3> where the hell did low latency come from?
[08:23] <raylu> ahmed, beryl is a fork of compiz. so...not much else
[08:23] <stevec_> Jack3: dunno, i use low latency tho
[08:24] <Jack3> wha
[08:24] <Jack3> that wasnt there before
[08:24] <Jack3> before i just had generic....
[08:24] <Jack3> also, is there a key shortcut for opening a konsole
[08:24] <ahmed> sooo thats it beryl - candy,, any other eye candy stuff ??
[08:25] <Jack3> ahmed, you will see you wont want any other eye candy
[08:25] <jmichaelx> raylu: when i try to mount the new partition in konqueror, i get this message 'hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000'
[08:25] <Jack3> most people use beryl for like 10 min than tone it way down cause its annyoing
[08:26] <raylu> jmichaelx, why are you using konq to mount?
[08:26] <raylu> jmichaelx, what folder are you looking at to see the partition?
[08:26] <ahmed> installed beryl
[08:26] <ahmed> how to run it Lol//
[08:27] <raylu> ahmed, alt+f2, beryl-manager
[08:27] <ahmed> when i press alt f2 nothing happens
[08:27] <jmichaelx> raylu: why wouldn't a person use konqueror to mount?  i am looking in media:/
[08:27] <raylu> ahmed, try kmenu > cun command
[08:28] <raylu> jmichaelx, unless you ran kdesu konqueror, you won't have root permissions need to mount
[08:28] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[08:28] <Arwen> fsck, a netsplit?
[08:31] <sercik> hi i have a problem that not regarding kubuntu, but you are always gentle with me so i hope that you can help the same
[08:31] <RobNyc> anyone knows how to install nvdiai drivers ?
[08:31] <sercik> i need to start inadyn (dns client) on a redhat derivated distribution but it don't execute rc.local
[08:32] <llp78> this will auto mount at startup
[08:32] <jmichaelx> llp78: ok.... ty
[08:32] <sercik> RobNyc: do sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[08:32] <raylu> ahmed, run it in a terminal
[08:32] <llp78> jmichaelx 2 secs ill show you my fstab so you get the idea - for ref
[08:32] <RobNyc> sercik, doesnt matter if I had an old, mid, new card ?
[08:32] <sercik> i need to start inadyn (dns client) on a redhat derivated distribution but it don't execute rc.local
[08:32] <jmichaelx> llp78: ok great
[08:32] <sercik> yes
[08:33] <ahmed> how to
[08:33] <sercik> it does matter search on nvidia site
[08:33] <llp78> !pastebin
[08:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:33] <sercik> and see which gpu is supported from nvidia -legacy and from nvidia
[08:34] <ahmed> hello
[08:34] <jmichaelx> llp78: i have to run, i appreciate the help.... i'll figure out how to add the partition to the fstab when i get back
[08:34] <llp78> jmichaelx http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21727/
[08:34] <jmichaelx> ok great, ty
[08:34] <llp78> jmichaelx no probs
[08:34] <jmichaelx> llp78: i will defintitely look that over...
[08:34] <sercik> please  you are always gentle with me help me with my problem also if is not kubuntu related
[08:36] <PhinnFort> wtf does Firefox automagically steal all the friggin file associations?
[08:36] <PhinnFort> suddenly all my images open up in that damn browser
[08:36] <raylu> gwenview was still my default after installing ff
[08:37] <PhinnFort> not here...
[08:37] <PhinnFort> suddenly gwenview was second
[08:37] <PhinnFort> well, I don't use Firefox, so I guess I'll purge it
[08:47] <Graham> Is there anyone here who's good with images and could do me a favour?
[08:48] <intelikey> molten images, graven images, disk imagec, data grams ?
[08:49] <sercik> please noone can risolve my prolem: i need to execute a command at startup and i need to create a script
[08:49] <intelikey> command ?
[08:50] <sercik> i need to launch a dyndns client
[08:50] <sercik> inadyn is its name
[08:50] <intelikey> agrs ?
[08:50] <sercik> the problem is that rc.local is not executed at boot
[08:50] <sercik> only inadyn
[08:50] <intelikey> wow,  it's what ?
[08:51] <eljefe> sercik: for dyndns i have an entry in my root's crontab
[08:51] <eljefe> ipcheck its named
[08:51] <eljefe> 00 */2 * * *            /usr/sbin/ipcheck -d /home/eljefe/bigboi/Linux -l -r checkip.dyndns.org:8245 username 'password' my.dyndnsdomain.org
[08:52] <eljefe> it runs every two hours
[08:52] <sercik> eljefe: could past me that correctly on pastebin??
[08:53] <sercik> ipcheck is also a dyndns client?
[08:53] <eljefe> yes it is
[08:53] <eljefe> i'll go to pastebin, brb
[08:53] <sercik> thank you
[08:55] <eljefe> sercik: read this too while you wait http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=1612
[08:58] <hydan> is there a way to remove ubuntu and install kubuntu w/out deleting everything save for gnome?
[08:58] <hydan> i want to swap over to kde
[08:59] <sercik> hydan: you can install kde in ubuntu if you want
[08:59] <sercik> or xfce if you like
[09:00] <ScarFreewill> is there a openssl-dev pakage in ubuntu's repos?
[09:01] <ScarFreewill> !info openssl
[09:01] <ubotu> openssl: Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8c-4build1 (feisty), package size 977 kB, installed size 2304 kB
[09:01] <ScarFreewill> !info openssl-dev
[09:01] <ubotu> Package openssl-dev does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:01] <eljefe> sercik: http://pastebin.ca/498892
[09:01] <eljefe> hydan: if you have space, just add KDE: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:02] <eljefe> hydan: (open a terminal and type/paste 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' (no quotes)
[09:03] <eljefe> sercik: note that the crontab command runs every two hours, not necessarily at boot up...
[09:04] <intelikey> hydan remove libgnome*
[09:04] <eljefe> you can change its frequency but the DynDNS people ask that you don't allow it to run more often than every 15min as it bogs down their servers.  15 min seems excessive to me, and every 2hrs on my desktop is fine (its not a laptop, doesn't get new IPs too often)
[09:04] <hydan> ok it's loading
[09:05] <eljefe> does anyone have a NEC Versa FXi laptop?  My Xubuntu isn't loading the sound, no sound plays at all
[09:06] <intelikey> eljefe no mines an M   but the trubleshooting sound wiki might help
[09:06] <nadir> for intel core duo do i use the 64-bit PC (AMD64) alternate install CD ?
[09:06] <fdoving> eljefe: note that anacron tries to run all "missed" (once) jobs since shutdown, after booting.
[09:06] <intelikey> !sound
[09:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:06] <eljefe> fdoving: meaning that crontab commands will be run at boot?  cool!
[09:06] <nadir> im cunfused it says EM64T Xeon ??? but amd64?
[09:07] <fdoving> eljefe: yup.
[09:07] <nadir> i want the arch for intel core duo
[09:07] <kakarott> necesito ayuda
[09:07] <tsdgeos> !es
[09:07] <kakarott> quien me manda la ayuda en espaol
[09:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:07] <eljefe> kakarott: visite Ud #kubuntu-es
[09:07] <fdoving> nadir: em64t is amd64. thats the same arch.
[09:08] <nadir> fdoving: so should i use the 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD ?
[09:08] <nadir> for intel core duo?
[09:08] <eljefe> intelikey: i've tried that :(
[09:08] <fdoving> nadir: i recommend using the x86 one.
[09:08] <fdoving> nadir: it'll work better for you, if you're installing a desktop system.
[09:08] <nadir> fdoving: but thats not 64 bit right, but ill take your advise anyway
[09:08] <yuriy> nadir: core duos are 32-bit, use the i386 cd
[09:09] <Aeos> whenever I try to run the live DVD I get this error: Error: microcode bcm43xx_microcode5.fw
[09:09] <nadir> yuriy: really ok, cool
[09:09] <Tarantulafudge> How do I install multimedia support on kubuntu?
[09:09] <Arwen> yuriy, really? Core Duos don't have EM64T support?
[09:09] <fdoving> nadir: no, that's not 64bit, but i don't recommend 64bit for desktops yet, because of flash and various other things that isn't supported on that platform yet.
[09:09] <Arwen> I mean, even the Prescotts did...
[09:09] <yuriy> nadir core _2_ duos are 64-bit
[09:09] <nadir> fdoving: ok
[09:09] <nadir> ok i see tahnks guys
[09:09] <eljefe> !medibuntu | Tarantulafudge
[09:09] <ubotu> Tarantulafudge: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[09:10] <intelikey> hmmm /me likes 64 bit more and more as i learn that flash and other non-free things are not supported there....
[09:10] <dsmith_> heh
[09:10] <fdoving> intelikey: get a powerpc :)
[09:10] <Aeos> that depends on what you call free
[09:11] <Arwen> intelikey, depends what you mean by "free" and "non-free". As far as I care, Flash *is* free.
[09:11] <intelikey> Aeos free as in free speach   not free as in free beer
[09:11] <fdoving> open :)
[09:12] <intelikey> Arwen as far as you care....   i care differently.
[09:12] <Arwen> oh yeah... and you can run 32-bit code on a 64-bit platform...
[09:12] <dsmith_> supposedly faster..
[09:13] <Tarantulafudge> eljefe: thanks
[09:13] <SlimeyPete> why on earth would you like something more just because it restricts your options? You can *choose* not to run non-free software but it makes no sense to choose a platform which will stop you from ever changing your mind.
[09:14] <intelikey> SlimeyPete i "do" choose not to.
[09:14] <SlimeyPete> right. But you can choose not to just as easily on 32-bit.
[09:14] <fdoving> SlimeyPete: good point, but in choosing a platform that does not have support for it, you can be part of, maybe, making the non-free softwaremakers support that platform.
[09:15] <SlimeyPete> mmm, but they're likely to support it in a non-free way, which isn't much good if you don't like non-free software ;)
[09:15] <fdoving> it's better than no support anyway.
[09:15] <Tarantulafudge> wouldn't it be eaiser for ubuntu just to include an agreement that says 'I agree that I am from X country (that supports medibuntu) so that everyone could install it anyway?
[09:15] <intelikey> i could ask the same question tho. why on earth would you like something moer just because it "can" support the very industry that opposes open source ?     so it's all a point of like and dislike philosophy
[09:16] <SlimeyPete> intelikey: because it gives me more options. I like having options :)
[09:16] <intelikey> and also off topic
[09:16] <SlimeyPete> this is true. Sorry.
[09:16] <Tarantulafudge> Why does amarok not support mp3 while totem does by default?
[09:17] <Tarantulafudge> makes no sense
[09:17] <Daisuke_Ido> Tarantulafudge: but totem *doesn't* by default, at least not the version included in ubuntu
[09:17] <Daisuke_Ido> you have to install the proper codecs either way
[09:18] <Tarantulafudge> Daisuke_Ido: it does I was just on a freshly installed ubuntu fiesty 7.04 and totem played my collection perfectly
[09:18] <Daisuke_Ido> totem may make this seamless, i haven't used it in some time
[09:19] <Tarantulafudge> Daisuke_Ido: I just think that either distro should have the same codecs available
[09:19] <Daisuke_Ido> the same codecs *are* available, amarok just doesn't (apaprently) install them seamlessly
[09:20] <fdoving> Daisuke_Ido: doesn't it just ask if you want to install it, click yes, and it does it all for you?
[09:20] <Tarantulafudge> Daisuke_Ido: install them seamlessly?
[09:20] <Daisuke_Ido> fdoving: in theory
[09:20] <Tarantulafudge> fdoving: totem didn't ask me a thing
[09:21] <intelikey> my cpu fan just died...
[09:21] <Tarantulafudge> Daisuke_Ido: and amarok crashed when I tried using that feature
[09:21] <fdoving> Tarantulafudge: i have no idea what totem does.
[09:21] <Daisuke_Ido> Tarantulafudge: so go to adept and look for mp3
[09:21] <fdoving> bbl.. kid -> bed.
[09:22] <intelikey> i think i better power off.  and see to this issue.
[09:42] <eljefe> intelikey: good luck!
[09:42] <intelikey> not having a cpu fan   could be a problem.
[09:42] <intelikey> eljefe k ty.
[09:42] <eljefe> how do i mute/unmute in Alsamixer ?
[09:42] <thingy> eljefe, m key i think
[09:42] <Sk-etch> \
[09:42] <Tarantulafudge> hey guys
[09:42] <eljefe> Tarantulafudge: hi
[09:42] <sercik> eljefe you are very very gentle thank you!!!
[09:42] <eljefe> sercik: does it work for you?
[09:42] <sercik> i was to lunch
[09:42] <sercik> i'll try after
[09:42] <Tarantulafudge> eljefe: lol my bad konversation doesn't automatically switch channels
[09:42] <sercik> eljefe: try to press the m key on keyboard
[09:42] <eljefe> Tarantulafudge: :)
[09:42] <sercik> why do you use alsamixer??
[09:42] <eljefe> m key doesn't seem to do anything
[09:42] <sercik> you don't use kmix?
[09:42] <eljefe> sercik: i cannot get my laptop sound working :(
[09:42] <eljefe> i do use kmix but that laptop has Xubuntu; I installed KMix to try it but nothing still
[09:42] <sercik> the problem is not to mute but to unmute :=
[09:42] <sercik> :)=
[09:42] <sercik> you can try alsaconf
[09:42] <sercik> is a text program to install soundcard
[09:42] <eljefe> sercik: yes, well... unmute then, but nothing works.  alsaconf isn't a part of *buntu i don't think
[09:42] <sercik> i'm not sure if is in repository but you can download it from alsa
[09:42] <eljefe> i know... sometimes it is easier to install a new distro than it is to get one working!  maybe i am lazy though
[09:42] <MaDiNfO_> is fiesty goint to have kaffeine 0.8.4 ?
[09:42] <MaDiNfO_> going
[09:42] <eljefe> the laptop works except for the sound; I am worried it was shut off in its Windows98 days and nothing that I do will fix it...
[09:42] <sercik> eljefe: exists a graphical mixer for xfce
[09:42] <eljefe> sercik: i know but its horrible
[09:42] <sercik> ah ok
[09:42] <eljefe> but thanks! :)
[09:42] <lola> italia
[09:42] <eljefe> without sounds i feel so limited even though it is a minimal part of what i do
[09:42] <lola> italia
[09:42] <lola> #ubuntu.it
[09:42] <eljefe> does anyone know if Feisty will get KDE 3.5.7 ?
[09:42] <sercik> eljefe: i understand you problem you need to search for alsa compatibility or you can try oss
[09:42] <sercik> lola quale  il problema?
[09:42] <eljefe> i tried OSS, but i don't get how to do it
[09:42] <eljefe> i tried blacklisting the ALSA module and loading the OSS module but I get errors of 'Sound not configured' or something
[09:42] <lola> comre si fa ad ascoltare la musica in mp3^^^
[09:42] <Tm_T> english here thank you
[09:42] <lola> sercik
[09:42] <lola> come si fa ad ascoltare la musica in mp3??
[09:42] <Tm_T> !it | lola sercik
[09:42] <ubotu> lola sercik: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:42] <sercik> lola se vuoi andare sul canale italiano devi fare /j #kubuntu-it
[09:42] <sercik> Tm_T: don't get anger!!
[09:42] <godvirus> how do i install gcc-4.2 on feisty?
[09:42] <sercik> i have only helped a little lola with my italian
[09:42] <Tm_T> sercik: I won't just stick in english here or go to italian channel ;)
[09:42] <eljefe> sercik: i will try more later but not right now, thank you for your help and please let me know if you get your DynDNS working!
[09:42] <eljefe> sercik: thanks for helping Lola by the way :)
[09:42] <sercik> eljefe: thank you very much!! i'll be here again
[09:42] <sercik> eljefe: i want to help as much as i can i'm a quite good kubuntu user now
[09:42] <eljefe> sercik: yes our help makes others good makes them good helpers!
[09:42] <eljefe> good bye for now
[09:42] <Tm_T> hmm
[09:42] <sercik> oookkk goodbye to all
[09:42] <Tm_T> see you and have fun
[09:42] <Tm_T> !away | Aelwyn
[09:42] <ubotu> Aelwyn: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines and !nickspam
[09:42] <NiceGuyUK> anyone played Max Payne 2 under WINE ?
[09:42] <Tm_T> Aelwyn: I hope you find the magic switch ;)
[09:45] (Kopec/#kubuntu) or rather, is there a linux software that would substitude a copier? (got scanner and printer)
[09:45] (NiceGuyUK/#kubuntu) Kopec: scanning is done via SANE
[09:45] (eXistenz/#kubuntu) What is the best multimedia plugin to install with firefox?
[09:46] <NiceGuyUK> and then you just print the results like you would anythign else
[09:46] <NiceGuyUK> !xsane | Kopec
[09:46] <ubotu> Kopec: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:47] <Kopec> NiceGuyUK: I actually need one click inteface, that grabs the current document in scanner and directly sends it to a copier
[09:47] <Kopec> (printer)
[09:47] <NiceGuyUK> hmm, not seen anythign like that, sorry
[09:48] <Kopec> got several of programs like this under WIN, even works under WINE, but it cannot scan from under WINE, cause it hasbn't got TWAIN
[09:49] <Kopec> :)
[09:49] <NiceGuyUK> is twain not installable seperately in WINE, ie with a setup.exe sort of thing ?
[09:50] <Kopec> tried, but with no success
[09:50] <Kopec> it doesn't find te scanner itself
[09:50] <Kopec> *didn't
[09:51] <NiceGuyUK> maybe the scanning howto referenced above has alink to a one-click scan/print program ?
[10:03] <RytmenPinnen> no perl audio converter in ubuntus repository?
[10:05] <nomtw_> hi, i recently installed feisty fawn and noticed that line spacing in kde apps is unusally high
[10:05] <nomtw_> is that configurable, post-install?
[10:07] <raylu> line spacing?
[10:08] <nomtw_> yes
[10:09] <raylu> o.0, that's never been an issue. could you take a ss and show me?
[10:10] <nomtw_> well, it's not extreme. just different from previous KDE installations (non Kubuntu)
[10:11] <nomtw_> where could I upload the screenshot?
[10:15] <bossss> hi all
[10:15] <bossss> need some help if possible
[10:15] <bossss> I need to instal virtual machine
[10:15] <bossss> any of them that will run windows xp
[10:16] <bossss> tried vmware server... get errors...
[10:16] <bossss> kvm ...
[10:16] <bossss> modprobe error
[10:16] <bossss> virtualbox...
[10:16] <bossss> nthn...
[10:16] <bossss> any  ideas
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> bochs maybe
[10:18] <Runi22> Is it possible to get Quanta as a debian package?
[10:19] <Tm_T> !info quanta
[10:19] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[10:19] <Tm_T> well, apparently it is
[10:20] <bossss> modprobe kvm-amd
[10:20] <bossss> FATAL: Error inserting kvm_amd (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/kvm/kvm-amd.ko): Operation not supported
[10:20] <bossss> what should I do?
[10:21] <Runi22> !info Quanta Debian Package
[10:21] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[10:22] <Runi22> Sorry i was just looking for link, so that i could find it on the web
[10:22] <Tm_T> Runi22: it's in repositories, so if you need to install it, just use adept/apt-get or any tool you like
[10:22] <Fivetwentysix> I tried installing XFIRE and got the following error in terminal: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:23] <Tm_T> Runi22: if you need package file, look from packages.ubuntu.com for example
[10:23] <Tm_T> xfire is...
[10:24] <Fivetwentysix> ?
[10:24] <Fivetwentysix> Xfire no longer supported or something?
[10:25] <Fivetwentysix> errr Xchat i meant
[10:25] <Fivetwentysix> loool
[10:25] <Fivetwentysix> Just realised my typing error sorry about that.
[10:25] <Daisuke_Ido> xchat = gtk = fugly.
[10:25] <RawSewage> thats weird how Ubuntu doesnt come with an IRC client
[10:25] <Tm_T> it does
[10:26] <RawSewage> which
[10:26] <Alberio> kubuntu, konversation...
[10:26] <Tm_T> xchat or Konversation
[10:26] <RawSewage> no
[10:26] <RawSewage> Kubuntu has Konversation
[10:26] <RawSewage> Ubuntu has none
[10:26] <Tm_T> er?
[10:26] <Alberio> which is why I said kubuntu, konversation
[10:26] <Tm_T> really?
[10:26] <RawSewage> I installed it last week
[10:26] <RawSewage> I had to manually install xchat
[10:26] <RawSewage> I use Konversation in Kubuntu..  I like Konversation
[10:27] <Tm_T> RawSewage: sound weird
[10:27] <Tm_T> RawSewage:
[10:27] <Tm_T> well, there's gaim
[10:27] <RawSewage> Does that have IRC
[10:27] <Tm_T> sure
[10:27] <Alberio> it officially does
[10:27] <Tm_T> just like Kopete does
[10:27] <Alberio> never personally tried it
[10:28] <Tm_T> "officially" =)
[10:28] <Alberio> yep :)
[10:28] <heinkel_111> hey
[10:28] <Daisuke_Ido> konversation or kvirc on kde are the best gui client options
[10:29] <masterk> how do I make and join chatrooms in kopete?
[10:29] <heinkel_111> does anyone know how to set which sound card gets the output (i just installed a soundblaster audigy 2 Zs and it is all quiet)
[10:29] <Alberio> right click on the person and click start chat@masterk?
[10:30] <Tm_T> masterk: click that hash icon in bottom of contact list and there "join"
[10:30] <Tm_T> Alberio: err?
[10:30] <Alberio> heinkel, for my dell, the one next to the microphone and other speaker port works with kubuntu, the row of them on the bottem for windows
[10:30] <heinkel_111> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21739/
[10:30] <Alberio> in kopete
[10:30] <Alberio> you can right click on them
[10:30] <Alberio> then start chat
[10:30] <masterk> Tm_T it just brings up single person chat I can't invite ppl
[10:30] <RytmenPinnen> is there an audio converter for kubuntu?
[10:30] <heinkel_111> ^ linux can see both sound devices
[10:30] <Tm_T> masterk: what protocols?
[10:31] <masterk> yahoo
[10:31] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: I usually disable onboard sound ;-P
[10:31] <masterk> is the one I am trying now but I will need aim later
[10:31] <Tm_T> masterk: No idea if it does support group chats
[10:31] <heinkel_111> Tm_T:  how do I disbale the onboard sound then?
[10:31] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: bios?
[10:31] <Alberio> it can see both, but only works on one for me
[10:31] <naegling23> When I enter kwin --replace into a terminal, im getting an X-error, does anyone know what can be going on?
[10:32] <Alberio> you could always unplug :P
[10:32] <Tm_T> naegling23: what error?
[10:32] <Graham> Fellow people, I'd like to ask your opinion of the banner I just made for my site.
[10:32] <Graham> www.13cliff.co.uk/get-linux/news.php
[10:33] <Fivetwentysix> How do I make a link to a folder?
[10:33] <Fivetwentysix> in terminal
[10:33] <|lostbyte|> Fivetwentysix, -----> ln
[10:33] <Tm_T> Fivetwentysix: ln -s /linked/folder link
[10:33] <Tm_T> or so
[10:33] <Alberio> graham, what did you use to make it?
[10:34] <Graham> Fivetwentysix: ln -s /target/directory /place/of/link
[10:34] <Graham> Alberio: Fireworks
[10:35] <galathalion> halp! im having some troubles with my computer! My usbdisk wont mount properly and i get errormessages from some kind of ghostcrashes everytime i boot.
[10:35] <Alberio> oh I just remembered the reason I came on here
[10:36] <Alberio> on my computer, it won't let me log in. I'm thinking that either i've somehow locked myself out or something's wrong with KDE
[10:36] <Alberio> the password's right
[10:36] <Alberio> it goes to a black screen for a couple of seconds
[10:36] <Alberio> then comes back to the login screen
[10:36] <serenity> hi
[10:36] <Alberio> does anybody have any ideas?
[10:36] <llp78> kde
[10:37] <Graham> Can you login pressing ctrl alt  f6 ?
[10:37] <Fivetwentysix> Thanks Graham, that worked perfectly :-).
[10:37] <Alberio> is that for console only?
[10:37] <Graham> That'll only get you into a console, unless you know what you're doing.
[10:38] <Alberio> I sort of know my way around bash, but not too well. I'll try it, thanks
[10:38] <Alberio> bye
[10:39] <serenity> i am looking for a software for streaming my desktop live into the internet. A kind of live-screencast. Is there any?
[10:40] <Graham> Soo.... www.13cliff.co.uk/get-linux/news.php - opinions anyone?
[10:40] <yknott> serenity: vlc +
[10:40] <Graham> I know the letters are shit but are the drop down Menus and that picture of Tux cool?
[10:41] <serenity> yknott: for streaming my desktop?
[10:41] <yknott> streaming a video or whatever you can play in vlc
[10:41] <llp78> Graham looks good - not much content though
[10:41] <serenity> yknott: but my desktop is no video
[10:41] <Graham> llp78: FFS... I'm working on it... of course' there's not much content.
[10:42] <yknott> i see
[10:42] <llp78> Graham kool d00d its looking good what you using to buiild that ?
[10:43] <Graham> Images are with Fireworks and everything else is my own.
[10:43] <Fivetwentysix> When I'm trying to move a file into a folder it says I don't have permission. Is there any way I can login as the owner through the desktop?
[10:44] <llp78> Graham you using bluefish to code the html/css or ?
[10:44] <Graham> No.
[10:44] <llp78> Graham you just coding from a text editor ?
[10:45] <Graham> Fivetwentysix: No. Use "sudo mv /the/file/you/want/to.move /move/to/directory/
[10:45] <Graham> llp78: Some of it, some of it's with Dreamweaver.
[10:46] <Graham> I know it's a bit newbish but it works for me, especially under wine :)
[10:46] <llp78> Graham its all looking good - what version of dreamweaver you using via wine
[10:46] <Fivetwentysix> I get this when trying to start bluefish:
[10:46] <Fivetwentysix> ma@ma-linux:~$ bluefish
[10:46] <Fivetwentysix> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:46] <Graham> 8
[10:46] <llp78> i have only managed to get 8 installed - all the others bomb out on me
[10:46] <llp78> :)
[10:46] <SlimeyPete> Fivetwentysix: use quanta instead?
[10:47] <Graham> Never tried other ones.
[10:47] <llp78> tried cs2 & cs3 no go
[10:47] <llp78> not without mega mods
[10:47] <Fivetwentysix> SlimeyPete I'll try that.
[10:48] <SlimeyPete> Fivetwentysix: I've only been using it a month, but so far it's been very good
[10:48] <Graham> llp78: Does Flash or Fireworks work for you under Wine?
[10:49] <llp78> Graham sorry havent tried
[10:49] <Alberio> hello
[10:49] <Alberio> I'm back
[10:49] <Graham> They work for me, I was just wondering.
[10:49] <Arwen> anyone here use VLC?
[10:49] <SlimeyPete> yep
[10:49] <Alberio> yea
[10:49] <Graham> brb
[10:50] <llp78> found i can do all on the system that i can do on xp or vista
[10:50] <Arwen> can one of you do me a favor? I've packaged VLC 0.8.6b but I need someone to test it...
[10:50] <jorunn> when I right click on the desktop I am able to create new -presentation, text document , ut I want to be enable o create an openffice document. Does anybody know how?
[10:50] <Alberio> it let me log in. It was successful and everything, but I'm not sure what I am supposed to do once I got there. What do I do to try and fix it is what I mean
[10:50] <crimsun> Arwen: I already have a merged package for gutsy.  I'm testing it.
[10:51] <Arwen> aww... that's no fun
[10:51] <heinkel_111> woha i worked out the stuff about switching between soundcards :)
[10:51] <Arwen> guess I'm gonna have to try packaging a 0.9.0 snapshot..
[10:51] <n0n4m3> Graham,
[10:51] <n0n4m3> how can i use dreamweaver on kubuntu ?:D
[10:51] <heinkel_111> that included almost blowing out my speakers as the creative card punches A LOT more than the onboard realtek :)
[10:51] <n0n4m3> can u tell me ?:>
[10:51] <n0n4m3> i don't know how to work
[10:51] <Arwen> n0n4m3, you can't
[10:51] <n0n4m3> with wine
[10:51] <Alberio> does anybody know how I could get KDE up and running correctly again?
[10:52] <llp78> n0n4m3 you need to download dreamweaver 8.0
[10:52] <n0n4m3> and
[10:52] <n0n4m3> then ?
[10:52] <llp78> n0n4m3 install it under wine
[10:52] <n0n4m3> i don't know how
[10:52] <Arwen> n0n4m3, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=183
[10:52] <n0n4m3> newer used
[10:52] <n0n4m3> wine:D
[10:52] <jorunn> does anybody of you know about a programme in linux which does more or less the same as moviemaker for MS WIndows?
[10:52] <Arwen> jorunn, cinelerra
[10:53] <llp78> n0n4m3 the command is sudo wine then thesetup.exe here
[10:53] <heinkel_111> jorunn: avidemux, kino
[10:53] <Arwen> bah, cinelerra ftw!
[10:53] <RytmenPinnen> can some make perl audio converter to the ubuntu repositories?
[10:53] <llp78> n0n4m3 you need wine first!!
[10:53] <n0n4m3> i have it!
[10:53] <n0n4m3> i jsut download
[10:53] <n0n4m3> just*
[10:53] <jorunn> Arwen: to difficult for small children. I've tried avidemux, kino, cinelerra..
[10:53] <n0n4m3> dreamweaver
[10:53] <n0n4m3> in kubuntu ?
[10:53] <Arwen> jorunn, well, guess you're out of luck?
[10:54] <llp78> if you have wine running and have dw8.0
[10:54] <llp78> thencd to the dir of dreamweaver and
[10:54] <snarfer> Hello, I have an issue with the PHP5 that's in the apt repos; the latest PHP5 is 5.2.2, and the one in the apt repos is 5.2.1
[10:54] <Arwen> n0n4m3, try "wine path/to/dreamweaver/setup.exe"
[10:54] <llp78> sudo wine setup.exe
[10:54] <snarfer> Is this a known issue?
[10:54] <Arwen> snarfer, that's not an issue....
[10:54] <Arwen> !latest
[10:54] <snarfer> Yes, it is.
[10:54] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:54] <jorunn> Arwen: Yes I don't see how we can continue using Linux in school when they aren't able to make digial stories in an easy way.
[10:54] <K-Ryan> It's not an issue.
[10:54] <Arwen> no, it's not
[10:54] <snarfer> 5.2.2 is stable
[10:55] <snarfer> And it works on my OSX partition
[10:55] <Arwen> jorunn, wtf, "digital stories"?
[10:55] <K-Ryan> Sometimes the latest version of something isn't the most stable
[10:55] <snarfer> 5.2.2 is stable
[10:55] <snarfer> And more secure
[10:55] <Arwen> jorunn, besides, we already pointed out the best options there are - avidemux, cinelerra, and kino
[10:55] <Arwen> snarfer, so go compile it
[10:55] <Alberio> is anybody willing to help with a KDE problem? or would this be the wrong place to ask, but it's stopping a visual login
[10:55] <Arwen> snarfer, nobody's stopping you
[10:55] <LjL> snarfer, you're out of luck with Ubuntu. once a version of it is released, new packages *are not added or upgraded*, except for security patches and fixes to very serious bugs.
[10:55] <LjL> !backports | snarfer
[10:55] <ubotu> snarfer: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[10:56] <LjL> snarfer: however, i doubt you'll ever find something as huge as php in backports
[10:56] <snarfer> Hrm
[10:56] <jorunn> Arwen: they= the children. Digita stories: they tell a "story" with their own comments, pictures, and sometimes background music
[10:56] <K-Ryan> Alberio you can ask away, if someone can help, they will.
[10:56] <snarfer> Well, php5.2.2 fixes several security issues outlined in MOPB
[10:56] <LjL> snarfer, security issues can be fixed without moving to the new version too
[10:56] <Arwen> jorunn, well, they can use avidemux, cinelerra, or kino. Or, you can go and install Windows.
[10:57] <snarfer> http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php
[10:57] <Arwen> snarfer, so go package it yourself and apply for a universe exception
[10:57] <snarfer> yes, but that is not the case here.
[10:57] <snarfer> I shall do that.
[10:57] <snarfer> !packaging
[10:57] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[10:57] <LjL> snarfer, what are you trying to get at? packages in Ubuntu are simply not updated, period, no matter how much you'd like to see your favorite version of your favorite program. pick another distribution if you want bleeding edge packages, Ubuntu aims to put a well-tested ensemble of packages together.
[10:57] <Alberio> K-Ryan, i'd asked before when graham suggested I try running in command-line only.
[10:58] <Alberio> thanks
[10:58] <Alberio> the problem was
[10:58] <n0n4m3> !wine
[10:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:58] <Alberio> that I couldn't log in
[10:58] <jorunn> Arwen: I may, perhaps use Cinelerra, but I haven't learnt it good enough yet. But can I import pictures in these programmes? I may join a course to learn one of these programmes
[10:58] <Alberio> it would take the password, the screen would turn black for a couple of seconds, then it would come bakc to the log in screen
[10:58] <hydan> does kiba dock work with kde?
[10:58] <K-Ryan> Hmm, so it's not a password thing.
[10:59] <K-Ryan> Or a login issue
[10:59] <Alberio> yea, and it lets me in console-only
[10:59] <Arwen> jorunn, I don't know. Never used em myself, just know that they're the only choices you have.
[10:59] <fuxker> hi all
[10:59] <Arwen> inserting still images should be a function of all of those though
[10:59] <K-Ryan> Did you install something that runs on start up Alberio?
[10:59] <Alberio> no, don't believe so
[10:59] <K-Ryan> Any settings changed?
[10:59] <Alberio> was just doing the usual internet/ebooks
[10:59] <Alberio> yea, that's what i was about to talk about
[10:59] <Alberio> before that
[11:00] <Alberio> I tried changing the size of the kde taskbar
[11:00] <Alberio> in the configure panel menu
[11:00] <Alberio> I changed it to small
[11:00] <Alberio> but then
[11:00] <Alberio> I tried changing it back
[11:00] <Alberio> and it didn't work
[11:00] <Alberio> it refused to change any more
[11:00] <Fivetwentysix> What's the difference in between Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[11:00] <K-Ryan> Ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE
[11:00] <Arwen> Fivetwentysix, one uses KDE and the other uses GNOME
[11:00] <Alberio> ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde
[11:01] <K-Ryan> *score*
[11:01] <Alberio> and some different applications
[11:01] <Fivetwentysix> What's more popular?
[11:01] <Arwen> Ubuntu
[11:01] <n0n4m3> Graham,
[11:01] <Alberio> ubuntu I think.
[11:01] <llp78> its personal choice
[11:01] <K-Ryan> Ubuntu probably because you always hear about Ubuntu.
[11:01] <Fivetwentysix> Any major advantages or disadvantages?
[11:01] <K-Ryan> Nope
[11:01] <llp78> everyone has a favorite
[11:01] <Alberio> not really
[11:01] <Alberio> just your choice of desktop environment
[11:01] <K-Ryan> It's really just whichever one you like more.
[11:01] <fuxker> i have one question , what is best distribution ??????? :
[11:01] <fuxker> pls.
[11:01] <K-Ryan> There is no best distro.
[11:01] <ubuntu_> omg
[11:01] <Alberio> that's definitely opinion
[11:02] <K-Ryan> Certain distros are tailored to different needs.
[11:02] <K-Ryan> It depends on your wants and needs.
[11:02] <Alberio> even parts of distro's are different
[11:02] <fuxker> which distribution is best ?
[11:02] <Alberio> like ubuntustudio
[11:02] <Alberio> there is no one best
[11:02] <Arwen> !best | K-Ryan
[11:02] <K-Ryan> There is NO best distro.
[11:02] <ubotu> K-Ryan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:02] <Arwen> !best | fuxker
[11:02] <ubotu> fuxker: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:02] <Arwen> oops
[11:02] <ubuntu_> this is the most in-efficent IRC room I have EVER been into...
[11:02] <fuxker> i know that was joke :)
[11:02] <n0n4m3> llp78,
[11:02] <n0n4m3> i can't talk to you
[11:02] <n0n4m3> on private
[11:02] <n0n4m3> :(
[11:02] <Fivetwentysix> *would
[11:03] <masterk> how do I view all my system specs?
[11:03] <K-Ryan> Fivetwentysix, it's just the basic layout of the dekstop that's really different.
[11:03] <Arwen> !register | n0n4m3
[11:03] <ubotu> n0n4m3: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:03] <Arwen> :-)
[11:03] <K-Ryan> Some default programs are different.
[11:03] <llp78> n0n4m3 register your nic name
[11:03] <K-Ryan> But most of the programs are interchangeable.
[11:03] <Alberio> K-Ryan, sorry, do you have any ideas to what I can do?
[11:03] <fdoving> masterk: kinfocenter is nice, kmenu -> system -> kinfocenter
[11:03] <Arwen> but KDE has amarok and k3b, which means KDE rules
[11:03] <K-Ryan> Alberio: About that, did you modify your xorg.conf?
[11:03] <Alberio> no
[11:03] <masterk> thx
[11:04] <ubuntu_> can i watch porn in linux
[11:04] <K-Ryan> Just the taskbar...
[11:27] (PhinnFort/#kubuntu) masterk: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenshots/skjermbilde2.png
[11:27] (premier_/#kubuntu) fdoving: not fixed
[11:27] (david2_/#kubuntu) All ya need to do is change a text file, blacklist the nvidia restricted drivers
[11:28] (PhinnFort/#kubuntu) masterk: it's in norwegian, but you get the idea
[11:28] (fdoving/#kubuntu) premier_: ah, the lists are locked. use
[11:28] (fdoving/#kubuntu) premier_: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' then.
[11:28] <PhinnFort> masterk: got it?
[11:29] <masterk> thats msn... maybe its cuz the user isnt in my aim list i can't block him
[11:29] <premier_> fdoving: my sources list is all screwed up
[11:29] <premier_> completely borked
[11:29] <Arwen> masterk, and here we thought you were talking over IRC...
[11:30] <PhinnFort> masterk: what do you get if you right-click?
[11:31] <Arwen> Tm_T, oi, wtf?
[11:31] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: i swear, it wasn't me!
[11:31] <Tm_T> Arwen: ?
[11:31] <Arwen> just wondering why you're going all op-mode...
[11:31] <Tm_T> PhinnFort: swearing is rude
[11:31] <PhinnFort> sorry
[11:31] <Tm_T> all op?
[11:31] <premier_> !ohmy
[11:31] <PhinnFort> [23:31]  *** ChanServ gives channel operator privileges to Tm_T.
[11:32] <PhinnFort> !language
[11:32] <hydan> is there an easy way to install kiba dock?
[11:32] <premier_> where is your ubotu now?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> hydan: no.
[11:32] <Tm_T> just normal chan op
[11:32] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[11:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:32] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:32] <PhinnFort> a botsnack always gets it back quickly;)
[11:32] <masterk> add to your contact list, send single message, start chat, warn user, and user info
[11:32] <Arwen> hydan, yes, add trevino's svn to your sources.list and apt-get install kiba-dock
[11:33] <rahul_> Hello EveryBody
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Arwen: unless he rebuilt it it is still borked
[11:33] <Arwen> gnomefreak, oh? didn't know that
[11:33] <Tm_T> bah, forgot already why to wear this funny hat
[11:33] <PhinnFort> heh
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Arwen: i had built it (i was the latest build) and upstream was broken
[11:33] <Arwen> lol
[11:33] <PhinnFort> dementia?
[11:34] <Tm_T> yup, I'm too old
[11:34] <PhinnFort> 20-something?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> maybe ill try again once i get caught up
[11:34] <Graham> jesus007: Hello, you rang earlier
[11:34] <Tm_T> 120-something
[11:34] <PhinnFort> Yoda beats the crap out of you
[11:34] <dwidmann> a 20 something-being too old? Well ... work really does suck the will to live out of a person :\
[11:36] <Graham> jesus007: Are you there...
[11:36] <mo0osah> how do you change the beryl diamond logo?
[11:36] <PhinnFort> Jesus is gone, please try again in three days
[11:37] <PhinnFort> mo0osah: where?
[11:37] <jesus007> graf2ix,
[11:37] <PhinnFort> on the cube?
[11:37] <jesus007> Graham,  ivn.
[11:37] <mo0osah> PhinnFort: yes
[11:37] <jesus007> nothing:D
[11:37] <masterk> !speedstep
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speedstep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <jesus007> i need you
[11:37] <jesus007> privateD:
[11:37] <PhinnFort> mo0osah: there's an option somewhere in the settings
[11:37] <masterk> what is speedstep
[11:38] <PhinnFort> masterk: hz-control thingy
[11:38] <graf2ix> jesus007 what?
[11:38] <jesus007> nothing
[11:38] <graf2ix> oki ^^
[11:38] <masterk> does windows automatically take control of speedstep?
[11:38] <Graham> jesus007: It won't let me reply to PMs
[11:38] <masterk> because under windows everything runs faster
[11:38] <PhinnFort> mo0osah: Desktop Cube.Filename.Image files on top/bottom
[11:38] <jesus007> graf2ix,  u must register
[11:38] <jesus007> wellll
[11:38] <jesus007> graham **
[11:39] <PhinnFort> masterk: if you have installed drivers ,yes
[11:39] <jesus007> anyway
[11:39] <jesus007> I'm going now
[11:39] <jesus007> bye..
[11:39] <Graham> jesus007: What did you want?
[11:39] <jesus007> someting
[11:39] <jesus007> with
[11:39] <jesus007> dreamweaver..
[11:39] <PhinnFort> soul?
[11:39] <jesus007> on kubuntu..
[11:39] <jesus007> but I'm sleepy
[11:39] <mo0osah> PhinnFort: found it
[11:39] <masterk> why doesn't linux take control of it by default?
[11:39] <jesus007> now:)
[11:39] <mo0osah> PhinnFort: thanks
[11:39] <PhinnFort> mo0osah: yw;)
[11:39] <PhinnFort> masterk: it should
[11:39] <Graham> jesus007: Dreamweaver 8?
[11:39] <PhinnFort> masterk: if not, file a bug
[11:39] <masterk> hmm...
[11:39] <Graham> Install it with Wine, it'll work fine.
[11:39] <masterk> how do I know if it is?
[11:39] <jesus007> Graham,  yes
[11:40] <PhinnFort> masterk: it chooses ondemand as speed selector here, which is very nice
[11:40] <jesus007> bye now:D
[11:40] <Graham> Bye
[11:40] <graf2ix> i dont remeber how i can register sorry
[11:40] <PhinnFort> graf2ix: /msg nickserv help
[11:40] <jesus007> oh
[11:40] <jesus007> just one question
[11:40] <jesus007> Graham,  you know
[11:40] <graf2ix> and i juste speak a little english ^^
[11:40] <jesus007> where can i download
[11:40] <jesus007> dreamweaver
[11:40] <jesus007> 8.0 ?
[11:40] <graf2ix> thx jesus007
[11:40] <PhinnFort> !enter | jesus007
[11:40] <ubotu> jesus007: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:40] <jesus007> sorry sorry
[11:40] <jesus007> :D
[11:40] <PhinnFort> :P
[11:41] <masterk> i'm looking under processor info in the kinfocenter and it says it is p3 coppermine but I know it is mobile p3
[11:41] <PhinnFort> jesus007: you can buy a license, or do it illegally from isohunt.com
[11:41] <jesus007> i'm downloading it now but i see it
[11:41] <jesus007> it's*
[11:41] <jesus007> dreamweaverFR
[11:41] <jesus007> france
[11:41] <jesus007> so i don't think it's english:D
[11:41] <PhinnFort> masterk: coppermine is probably he codename
[11:41] <masterk> hmm...
[11:41] <masterk> it says stepping = 10
[11:42] <Tm_T> nownow, better not to talk about illegal acts here
[11:42] <masterk> better not to talk about illegal acts anywhere... i got a warning notice from comcast for that
[11:42] <PhinnFort> masterk: :P
[11:42] <masterk> and I was just joking
[11:42] <Lilacor> why won't nvidia-settings let me save my resolution to xorg.conf?
[11:42] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: it's not illegal under all jurisdictions
[11:42] <PhinnFort> or so they say
[11:43] <fdoving> jesus007: try not to use enter as space, more words on each line. thanks in advance.
[11:43] <masterk> like in what country was it...
[11:43] <PhinnFort> madagascar
[11:43] <PhinnFort> ?
[11:43] <masterk> i forget bus I think linus lived there or something
[11:43] <PhinnFort> north korea
[11:43] <jesus007> fdoving,
[11:43] <PhinnFort> finland?
[11:43] <masterk> but*
[11:43] <jesus007> yes i read it
[11:43] <masterk> yeah
[11:43] <jesus007> i said
[11:43] <jesus007> sorry .
[11:43] <dwidmann> Still, if you want to talk about it ... do it with an encrypted conversation, silly.
[11:43] <graf2ix> i'ts ok i'm register
[11:43] <PhinnFort> scatterchat?
[11:43] <lamdog> hi everyone
[11:44] <Lilacor> hi
[11:44] <PhinnFort> !hi | lamdog
[11:44] <ubotu> lamdog: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:44] <masterk> lol
[11:44] <jesus007> now please everytime i go to bed there's the sound that someone has higlihted me (or how it's written)
[11:44] <jesus007> n8 now
[11:44] <masterk> what other bot commands are there
[12:01] <PhinnFort> jesus007: sleep well
[12:01] <Lilacor> great...
[12:01] <PhinnFort> !help > masterk
[12:01] <jesus007> thanks..
[12:01] <Lilacor> I run into a well known nvidia driver bug.. :(
[12:01] <PhinnFort> !nvidia
[12:01] <Tm_T> !botabuse | masterk
[12:01] <ubotu> masterk: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:01] <masterk> wtf O.o
[12:01] <Lilacor> PhinnFort: I've already installed them. I've just run into a bug when trying to save the resolution.
[12:01] <Lilacor> PhinnFort: I didn't run into this bug under ubuntu though. :(
[12:01] <lamdog> hi i've got a question about running a java app on kubuntu 7.04.
[12:01] <carl_> hello
[12:01] <dwidmann> !gibberishasdfasd > masterk
[12:01] <lamdog> no matter what i do, i keep on getting errors.
[12:01] <lamdog> i'm trying to run it from console, can anyone help?
[12:01] <dwidmann> lamdog: pastebin the errors
[12:01] <Lilacor> lamdog: you're probably running into a JVM mismatch
[12:01] <PhinnFort> !pastebin | lamdog
[12:01] <ubotu> lamdog: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:01] <PhinnFort> or rafb.net/paste if it isn't working
[12:01] <lamdog> ty sorry bout that
[12:01] <carl_> I'm a noob, how do I setup my graphics card in kubuntu, it autodetected, but I can't increase the refresh past 60HZ. My card is a BFG 6600 GT AGP with 128meg
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: go to system settings -> monitor and display
[12:01] <carl_> yup been there
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: then click on the "administrator" button to get rights
[12:01] <carl_> yup done that
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: then hardware
[12:01] <carl_> k
[12:01] <PhinnFort> click on configure besides the card
[12:01] <Tm_T> hmm, I never got working display settings from kde-guidance
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: and then select
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: me neither, but it should work
[12:01] <Tm_T> carl_: try this, remove kde-guidance package and relogin to KDE
[12:01] <Tm_T> PhinnFort: _should_ but that's not enough
[12:01] <carl_> huh?
[12:01] <carl_> How do I do that?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: Xorg starts without an xorg.conf now too
[12:01] <dwidmann> carl: maybe it didn't detect your monitor quite right, to get everything just perfect you have to have other stuff written into your xorg.conf - the horizsync and vertrefresh
[12:01] <carl_> ok
[12:01] <carl_> what do I do?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: ignore the infidels, open a console, and type in "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ."
[12:01] <carl_> ok
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: then close all open programs and hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: it should autodetect necessary settings
[12:01] <Tm_T> ok kids, I'm going to sleep, so behave ->
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: and if it doesn't work, please type in the following after logging in at the console
[12:01] <PhinnFort> "sudo mv xorg.conf /etc/X11"
[12:01] <Zeelot> hi, could someone help me install Parallels in feisty?
[12:01] <masterk> can you do chat rooms on msn with kopete?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: ok, I won't;)
[12:01] <PhinnFort> masterk: I think so
[12:01] <dwidmann> behave? Is that the thing that I'm doing when I'm causing mayhem and mischief?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> masterk: in an open chat, select "chat" (first menu entry) and invite
[12:01] <PhinnFort> dwidmann: the other behave
[12:01] <Zeelot> it compiles and parallels-config works but I get an error at the end
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Zeelot: I haven't tried Parallels before, but paste the error in a pastebin, mkay?
[12:01] <Zeelot> yea I'm doing that now 1 sec
[12:01] <PhinnFort> 2
[12:01] <PhinnFort> 3
[12:01] <PhinnFort> 4
[12:01] <Zeelot> http://pastebin.ca/499127
[12:01] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:01] <Zeelot> >_>
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Zeelot: I'm not sure, but I think it can be dash-related
[12:01] <PhinnFort> !dash
[12:01] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to  #! /bin/bash 
[12:01] <apol> where can I get xvidcap?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> !find xvidcap
[12:01] <ubotu> Package/file xvidcap does not exist in feisty
[12:01] <Zeelot> hmm what script should I have to change?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> !xvidcap
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Zeelot: do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash"
[12:01] <apol> PhinnFort: good try :P
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Zeelot: and answer no
[12:01] <PhinnFort> apol: ;)
[12:01] <apol> seems it is not on the repositories... :S
[12:01] <Zeelot> aha thank you very much!
[12:01] <carl_> K i'm back
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Zeelot: does it work?
[12:01] <Zeelot> yep
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: you don't say
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Zeelot: happy happy me
[12:01] <Zeelot> should I change it back or leave it alone?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Zeelot: just leave it alone
[12:01] <carl_> That seemed to help but now my monitor and display control window is displaying and error
[12:01] <Zeelot> alright
[12:01] <carl_> screen looks allot better though
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Zeelot: unless you have an enormous amount of scripts, you won't notice the speed difference
[12:01] <carl_> I have 2 monitors, the main one is good second one is crazy
[12:01] <RawSewage> What would I use in Kubuntu for Subversion
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Zeelot: the only reason they changed the default was because DASH is a tiny bit quicker, but at lot less compatible
[12:01] <Zeelot> I see
[12:01] <lamdog> ok, second try ;-) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21752/ any suggestions?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: try to hit alt+f2, and type in "krandrtray" and hit enter
[12:01] <LjL> !info kdesvn | RawSewage
[12:01] <LjL> !info kdesvn-kio-plugins | RawSewage
[12:01] <PhinnFort> lamdog: doesn't look like a valid java thingy
[12:01] <LjL> !packages > RawSewage    (RawSewage, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:01] <ubotu> rawsewage: kdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-1 (feisty), package size 1517 kB, installed size 3608 kB
[12:01] <ubotu> rawsewage: kdesvn-kio-plugins: subversion I/O slaves for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-1 (feisty), package size 147 kB, installed size 528 kB
[12:01] <RawSewage> LjL, ty
[12:01] <carl_> what will that do?
[12:01] <lamdog> ah but phinn I can run it on a windows machine.. what's up w/ that?
[12:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: it will start a tray-progam to control your screens
[12:01] <PhinnFort> lamdog: I have no clue about java programs
[12:01] <carl_> ok I c it
[12:01] <lamdog> phinn i've run 'em a bit on win32, and i've read up on the error msgs, but nothing has helped ;-(
[12:01] <PhinnFort> apol: http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/03/making-animated-movie-of-your.html
[12:01] <PhinnFort> lamdog: can't help you, sorry
[12:01] <PhinnFort> lamdog: maybe try in #java
[12:01] <lamdog> ty phinn thank you, no worries mate ;)
[12:01] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:01] <PhinnFort> !xorg.conf
[12:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:01] <apol> thanks PhinnFort
[12:01] <PhinnFort> yw
[12:02] <PhinnFort> carl_: if you have more problems, could you try to piece together a working xorg.conf with the help of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto ?
[12:02] <carl_> it says that the possible reasons for the loss of the configuration display are: "an error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module" or "you have old third party modules lying around"
[12:02] <PhinnFort> carl_: does krandrtray give you that?
[12:03] <PhinnFort> carl_: if you want it back, you can either move back the old config file, or generate a new one
[12:04] <PhinnFort> carl_: to generate a new one, type the following in a console, give it your password and generally just hit yes and enter:" sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:04] <carl_> krandrtray didn't give me that but it doesn't seem to be working anymore
[12:04] <carl_> when it click configure display it does
[12:04] <carl_> ok I'll try that
[12:07] <carl_> the setup seems to have stopped
[12:07] <DaSkreech> all praise vista :-)
[12:07] <PhinnFort> carl_: what happens?
[12:07] <DaSkreech> What would I do without it?
[12:07] <PhinnFort> DaSkreech: eat up your food?
[12:07] <Fivetwentysix> I'm on AMD64 3000+ using Nvidia Geforce 7600 GT, which driver do i install for my graphic card to be used at full functionality
[12:08] <muaddib> probably mostly the same things
[12:08] <carl_> I set it up untill I got to a section with only an "ok" at the bottom, cant seem to get any further
[12:08] <PhinnFort> Fivetwentysix: nvidia's proprietary
[12:08] <DaSkreech> PhinnFort: Well I could afford food
[12:08] <PhinnFort> carl_: you need to use the keyboard
[12:08] <PhinnFort> carl_: hit enter
[12:08] <carl_> I did
[12:08] <PhinnFort> carl_: has it returned to the command prompt?
[12:08] <carl_> nothing is happening (i'm not that noob :P)
[12:08] <carl_> lol
[12:08] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:09] <carl_> nope, still at that page
[12:09] <PhinnFort> carl_: can you explain what happened up until that point?
[12:09] <carl_> with the "configureing xserver-org" header
[12:09] <carl_> had to type in the name of the graphics card was the last step
[12:09] <Fivetwentysix> Do i install the regular drivers or the new drivers?
[12:09] <carl_> selected nvidia from a list
[12:10] <PhinnFort> carl_: what did you type in?
[12:10] <carl_> nvidia 6600 "i think"
[12:10] <PhinnFort> was it the default?
[12:11] <carl_> it didn't give the default, I think that it was just a lable for the setup
[12:11] <PhinnFort> carl_: close the console window, then
[12:11] <carl_> ok
[12:12] <PhinnFort> carl_: then hit alt+f2, type in "cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/ && kdesu dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend kde"
[12:12] <PhinnFort> and hit enter
[12:12] <Coldwar55> How does one allow write access to a drive in the fstab table?
[12:12] <PhinnFort> Coldwar55: set "rw" amongst the options
[12:12] <Coldwar55> Ok thanks.
[12:12] <PhinnFort> np
[12:13] <Coldwar55> Mounted by Windows partition but it's not write access yet.
[12:13] <carl_> nothing happened
[12:13] <PhinnFort> carl_: i forgot a sudo...
[12:13] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:13] <PhinnFort> carl_: open a console, then "sudo cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/"
[12:14] <PhinnFort> carl_: then "kdesu dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend kde"
[12:15] <naegling23> any idea why kwin --replace would not work?
[12:15] <carl_> Unknown option '--frontend'
[12:15] <PhinnFort> carl_: you must really excuse me, I forgot "'s: kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend kde"