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| callidusfox | Any admins here? | 02:55 |
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| callidusfox | How can I completely delete my account from launchpad? | 02:56 |
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| LaserJock | callidusfox: you need to make a request | 03:01 |
| callidusfox | LaserJock: where ? | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | I *think* you can open up a ticket on launchpad | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/ | 03:02 |
| callidusfox | LaserJock: thanks. | 03:04 |
| Fujitsu | Bug gbcw | 03:28 |
| Fujitsu | bug #gbcw | 03:28 |
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| pr3d4t0r | Greetings. | 06:41 |
| pr3d4t0r | Q. I've been setting up a project in launchpad.com all day but haven't figured out how to tell it to use Subversion for handlling the code branches. | 06:42 |
| pr3d4t0r | Can you please advise about where in launchpad.net (yeah, not .com) can I set SVN as the branch manager? Thanks in advance. | 06:44 |
| _thumper_ | pr3d4t0r: no you can't | 06:45 |
| _thumper_ | pr3d4t0r: launchpad works with bzr branches | 06:45 |
| _thumper_ | pr3d4t0r: if you really like, you can import your svn trunk into a bzr branch | 06:45 |
| _thumper_ | but it will be made available as a bzr branch | 06:45 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: Ah, excellent. | 06:51 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: Thanks for the heads up. | 06:51 |
| _thumper_ | pr3d4t0r: try bzr, I think you'll like it | 06:51 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: I had not bothered to explore that in detail; another member of the project commented on that and I assumed that there was a SVN vs. Bazaar switch that I had overlooked. | 06:51 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: Will do :) | 06:52 |
| _thumper_ | pr3d4t0r: btw, if you think of improvements in the code hosting, ping thumper, jml, ddaa or mwh | 06:52 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: Right now I'm drooling about the Optimus Maximus keyboard and debating whether I'll stay up until 0300 PST to pre-order. | 06:52 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: I will, thanks. | 06:53 |
| _thumper_ | pr3d4t0r: there are tools like svn2bzr | 06:53 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: We are ditching SourceForge and Google Code. | 06:53 |
| _thumper_ | the is also some bzr subversion plugin | 06:53 |
| _thumper_ | but I don't know much about that | 06:53 |
| _thumper_ | apart from its existance | 06:53 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: So we have a bit of a learning curve. We won't need svn2bzr. The code right now lives only in our respective file systems because we hadn't decided on hosting (SourceForge CVS, Google Code SVN). | 06:54 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: That shan't be an issue :) | 06:54 |
| _thumper_ | pr3d4t0r: bzr init; bzr add; bzr commit | 06:54 |
| _thumper_ | pr3d4t0r: I can say that there are some pretty exciting things coming for code on launchpad | 06:55 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: Yup. | 06:55 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: We felt it reflected our goals better. | 06:55 |
| _thumper_ | excellent | 06:55 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: For Linux systems, all the team members prefer Ubuntu. | 06:55 |
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| Fujitsu | thumper: What new stuff is coming? Or are you not at liberty to say? | 06:56 |
| thumper | pr3d4t0r: I am normally on as thumper | 06:56 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: We collectively agreed that we dug launchpad.net right from the start. | 06:56 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: Ah :) | 06:56 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: firstly the smart server for bzr will run on the hosting site | 06:56 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: I'm normally on as... pr3d4t0r. Though you may occasionally see me switch to xi5hnik or NikkiWade (other channel's leakage). | 06:56 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: I'm not entirely sure of how much liberty I have with talking about it | 06:57 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: Do you work for Canonical? | 06:57 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: but nice things rolling out soonish | 06:57 |
| thumper | pr3d4t0r: yes | 06:57 |
| Fujitsu | That's what I thought. | 06:57 |
| thumper | pr3d4t0r: on launchpad code hosting | 06:57 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: Sweet. | 06:57 |
| Fujitsu | I love closed development :( | 06:58 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: give it time... | 06:58 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: I spoke to several Canonical guys last year. Ubuntu was our preferred environment for a big project I was involved in. The company later decided that we were in only for the reference implementation and I eventually went to a new gig... but we're using Ubuntu already at the new place. If we take our new stuff to production, we'll engage Canonical again :) | 06:59 |
| Fujitsu | thumper: I know, I know... | 06:59 |
| pr3d4t0r | Hrm... | 07:00 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: How do you associate a dev team with a project? We've got awkedev (team) and awke project and they seem to live in two different universes. Does the binding occur during the initial bzr set up? | 07:00 |
| === pr3d4t0r hangs his head in shame for being such a launchpad.net n00b. | ||
| thumper | pr3d4t0r: you set the team as the maintainers of the project | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | Well, you'll probably want to set that team as the driver of the project. | 07:01 |
| thumper | driver or maintainer | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | Or maintainer, or whatever term LP uses today. | 07:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | HeH. | 07:01 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: they are two distinct team references | 07:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | Fujitsu: Gotcha. | 07:01 |
| thumper | your driver may be different from the maintainers | 07:02 |
| Fujitsu | thumper: What's the difference? | 07:02 |
| thumper | maintainers work on the code / project | 07:02 |
| thumper | drivers determine direction | 07:02 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 07:02 |
| thumper | drivers have access to do things like allocate blueprints to milestones | 07:02 |
| thumper | and stuff | 07:02 |
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| pr3d4t0r | thumper: Done! | 07:03 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_away_: Thanks -- bon appetit. | 07:03 |
| pr3d4t0r | Hrm... | 07:04 |
| === ajmitch needs to go to the supermarket to get the 1 missing thing for dinner | ||
| === pr3d4t0r wonders what launchpad.net is written in. It has a distinct ActiveRecor aroma. | ||
| pr3d4t0r | Er, ActiveRecord. | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | python, using zope3 | 07:05 |
| pr3d4t0r | ajmitch: Ah! Nice. | 07:19 |
| pr3d4t0r | ajmitch: I haven't used Zope since 2003 or so. | 07:20 |
| pr3d4t0r | ajmitch: Nice to know it's still around. | 07:20 |
| pr3d4t0r | Have a good night, gang. The help was much appreciated. | 07:21 |
| pr3d4t0r | Z z . | 07:21 |
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| mpt | Goooooooooooooooood evening Launchpadders! | 08:00 |
| Fujitsu | Hi mpt. | 08:02 |
| Hobbsee | hi mpt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 08:02 |
| === Hobbsee contemplates actually replying on the launchpad-users ML | ||
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: To what? | 08:03 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, you seem excited today | 08:03 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: the whole "full name" discussion | 08:03 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | I was thinking of that too | 08:04 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: hmmm. i've had 2 people attempting to run me off the road, a boss who cant understand the concept of "not available", and people seeming to be slightly bitter/confused over my core dev nomination. | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | but decided to shut my mouth | 08:04 |
| mpt | core dev nomination? | 08:04 |
| === mpt realizes he has no clue what Hobbsee actually does :-/ | ||
| Hobbsee | mpt: i talk on irc :P | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | s/bitter// | 08:05 |
| mpt | oh, ok | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | mpt: Hobbsee's the KDE goddess ;-) | 08:05 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: i'm one of those strange kubuntu & motu type people, and some of the ops stuff | 08:05 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: and i wield with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 08:05 |
| mpt | KDE? Oh, so we are sworn enemies | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 08:06 |
| mpt | </kidding> | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | sure sure | 08:06 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee is a very strange hybrid creature. | 08:06 |
| mpt | If KDE4 bludgeons the Gnome project hard enough to result in a Gnome 3, it will be a good thing :-> | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: i'm really wondering, if i reply, will i just make the whole issue better or worse. | 08:07 |
| LaserJock | as long as you don't let Fujitsu in there ;-) | 08:08 |
| LaserJock | I think you're voice is valuable on the subject | 08:08 |
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| Hobbsee | LaserJock: seeing as i'd effectively be saying "by using your real name, you're acknowledging that you will likely be harassed, and hit on, and everything else, and that I dont think we should force people to accept that, just to use launchpad" | 08:08 |
| === Fujitsu harasses Hobbsee. | ||
| Hobbsee | and whether that will bring me harassment, i'm not sure | 08:09 |
| LaserJock | I just read something today that women get 25 more sexual harassment email then men | 08:09 |
| crimsun | (Oh, I thought you were talking about core-dev.) | 08:09 |
| mpt | Only 25? | 08:09 |
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| LaserJock | s/25/24 times/ | 08:09 |
| LaserJock | bah | 08:09 |
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| Hobbsee | cant say i've had much *email* | 08:10 |
| mpt | oh, e-mail | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | certainly too many irc queries though, just sittign in #ubuntu | 08:10 |
| LaserJock | well, it's just frustrating to me because I like knowing the people I'm talking to | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | oh i can see the logic in that | 08:10 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: Same. | 08:10 |
| mpt | yeah, proportional to the ease and the anonymity | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | and i think that's the main reason that people eventually *do* show their real names | 08:10 |
| Fujitsu | But I can see where the others are coming from too. | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | but launchpad has absolutely no right to force people to do that by default. | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | I mean, it's not done in the real world, "Hi boss, my name is LaserJock " | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | of course it isnt. but in the real world, there's also a lot more stuff against sexual harassment | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | which I think we could use | 08:12 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: It wasn't more than a few months ago that you changed your LP real name to your real name, was it? | 08:12 |
| Hobbsee | whereas in something like ubuntu, there isnt. you either deal, or leave the project. | 08:12 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: hmmm...was early this year, or late last year. not sure which | 08:12 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Or you get the person who is doing the harassment disposed of. | 08:12 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: how, though? you cant, really - there are too many ways of contact | 08:12 |
| Hobbsee | short of going and smashing them or something | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | in this case, LP account removal might help | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | i mean, irc you can get them klined. which i've done, before. but it doesnt permanently fix the problem | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | they've already got your info, etc. | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | *sigh* true | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | it's just completely idiotic that people treat each other that way online | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | well, the majority dont | 08:14 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: s/online/at all/ | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | I mean, sometimes things are done unintentionally | 08:14 |
| mpt | Idiotic, perhaps, but also entirely predictable | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | but it's not a perfect world, shit happens, and you have to manage as best as possible | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | but there too much maliciousness out there | 08:14 |
| mpt | The Internet has had this problem for quarter of a century now | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: the unintentional ones are easy to spot, and ignore | 08:15 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: the only reason i started using my name on LP and such was that i knew that people wanted to sponsor me to UDS at some point... | 08:22 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: so my real name would come out | 08:22 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 08:22 |
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| lsproc | I made a typo in my e-mail when registering a team, can I just edit the contact address? | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | I think so | 08:27 |
| Hobbsee | lsproc: you should be able to, hit manage addresses, put in the new one, and validate that address | 08:27 |
| lsproc | Any of these addresses need to be confirmed before you can use it as the contact address of this team. | 08:27 |
| lsproc | i dont have access to the other address though | 08:27 |
| Hobbsee | do you need it, to put in a new address? | 08:28 |
| lsproc | hang on | 08:28 |
| lsproc | if i registered the team, do i need to put my e-mail? | 08:28 |
| Hobbsee | you need to put in an email address, which LP will check if it's valid | 08:29 |
| lsproc | The email address you're trying to add is already registered in Launchpad for lsproc. | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | yes - you need a different one | 08:29 |
| lsproc | ah | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | actually, teams dont even require an email | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | (all mail will just be sent out to all the people on the team) | 08:29 |
| lsproc | ok | 08:29 |
| lsproc | thanks :) | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | but you should still be able to hit manage addresses, and change it from there | 08:29 |
| lsproc | i could delete the old one fine | 08:30 |
| mpt | hmm, Launchpad frequently crashes Safari | 08:31 |
| mpt | I wonder if we can tweak it to frequently crash IE too | 08:31 |
| lsproc | hehe | 08:31 |
| Fujitsu | Heheh. | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 08:31 |
| lsproc | mpt, i know a bug in the way IE renders pictures, that if you put a 1x1 picture in but stretched to 30,000x30,000 or so, it BSODS the pc in IE | 08:32 |
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| adedov | hi! Is there tools to branch an existing branch at launchpad via web UI? | 09:45 |
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| mwh | ... | 09:53 |
| ubotu | New bug: #115735 in soyuz "On distribution source package release page, only "Overview" is available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115735 | 09:55 |
| ubotu | New bug: #115738 in soyuz "On distribution release binary package page, only "Overview" is available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115738 | 10:16 |
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| ubuntu | hi | 11:20 |
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| proppy | is there a way to retrieve *from a program* all the user of a given group on launchpad ? | 11:22 |
| proppy | (without parsing raw html) | 11:22 |
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| Fujitsu | proppy: You can use launchpad.net/~team/+rdf | 11:58 |
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| proppy | Fujitsu: thx :) | 12:09 |
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| pochu | either doko has too many packages, or launchpad has a problem :) | 01:42 |
| pochu | Can anyone access https://launchpad.net/~doko/+packages ? It timeouts here | 01:42 |
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| Fujitsu | pochu: It sometimes gets like that, but other times it's OK | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | pochu: lp dies on my package list too | 01:44 |
| ajmitch | doko has touched a *lot* of packages by doing mass rebuilds, python changes, etc | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | sometimes | 01:44 |
| Fujitsu | doko has the most uploads by a long, long way. | 01:44 |
| pochu | Hobbsee: your page takes a while, but loads fine | 01:44 |
| === pochu wants his page to timeout too :) | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:45 |
| pochu | I have very few uploads :| | 01:45 |
| === pochu search at launchpad for that bug | ||
| pochu | looks like Bug #90823 (reported by doko himself) :) | 01:46 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 90823 in launchpad "personal packages page not reachable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90823 | 01:46 |
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| Hobbsee | hmm. no dice. or not many, anyway | 02:01 |
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| keir | so there's no facility for patch tracking in launchpad at the moment? | 05:33 |
| pochu | keir: what do you mean? | 05:35 |
| keir | pochu, my eventual goal is to get blender to switch away from gforge + svn to launchpad | 05:35 |
| keir | i'm identifying blockers | 05:35 |
| keir | patch tracking is something like bundle buggy | 05:35 |
| keir | sadly, no matter what i bet a switch won't happen for at least a year | 05:36 |
| keir | because they just invested tons of time into a new svn migration | 05:36 |
| pochu | is it a VCS? | 05:37 |
| keir | gforge is trac-like | 05:37 |
| keir | actually, it's closer to svn | 05:37 |
| keir | gah, rather, gforge ~= launchpad | 05:37 |
| pochu | well, launchpad has bazaar integration | 05:37 |
| keir | yes | 05:37 |
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| Spads | gforge is the open source sourceforge suite | 05:37 |
| Spads | it uses svn or cvs as the VCS | 05:37 |
| Spads | to my last inspection | 05:38 |
| keir | yup | 05:48 |
| keir | anyway, bzr integration alone is not sufficient for patch tracking | 05:48 |
| keir | launchpad has a spot which lists branches -- ok | 05:48 |
| keir | but if someone registers a new branch, then approaches time for merge, it doesn't look like launchpad supports the kind of back-and-forth the blender devs use in gforge | 05:49 |
| radix | keir: what kind is that? | 05:49 |
| keir | you open a new patch | 05:50 |
| keir | post it as an attachment along with a big description | 05:50 |
| keir | then kaito or other devs check it out and try it | 05:50 |
| keir | maybe further changes are needed | 05:50 |
| keir | comments are posted to the patch item | 05:50 |
| keir | dev updates patch, reuploads | 05:50 |
| keir | repeat | 05:50 |
| keir | i imagine this could be done with bundles for people who can't host a branch on bzr | 05:51 |
| keir | https://projects.blender.org/tracker/?atid=127&group_id=9&func=browse | 05:52 |
| keir | as you can see, there are tons of patches outstanding for blender | 05:52 |
| keir | a way of supporting this is *required* before any sort of launchpad switch could be considered | 05:52 |
| pochu | keir: you could do that in the bug tracker, attaching them as "patches" | 05:54 |
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| keir | I think 'bugs' is a misnomer-- why track features as bugs? | 06:01 |
| keir | seems odd | 06:01 |
| keir | then it should be an issue tracker | 06:01 |
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| radix | keir: well, the only issue is naming, then | 06:11 |
| radix | keir: because the bug tracker supports exactly that workflow | 06:11 |
| keir | ok, neat | 06:14 |
| keir | and tags make it easy to sort | 06:15 |
| keir | is anyone working on ML integration? | 06:15 |
| radix | keir: how do you mean? there is an email interface to the bug tracker | 06:17 |
| keir | mainly, i want something like trac's timeline that also catches mailing list traffic | 06:18 |
| keir | trac's timeline is AWESOME | 06:18 |
| keir | on all the projects i use, it is *the* way i keep up to date with what's happening | 06:19 |
| keir | launchpad doesn't really have much of a substitute | 06:19 |
| keir | for trac, i wrote a mailing list plugin which would add mailing list messages to the stream of timeline events | 06:19 |
| keir | for dr project | 06:19 |
| pochu | keir: there's mailing support planning | 06:20 |
| pochu | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/team-mailing-lists | 06:20 |
| keir | ah, i see | 06:21 |
| keir | neat | 06:21 |
| keir | one other thing which was a 100% dealbreaker for blender: dependence on a 3rd party for backups | 06:21 |
| keir | i.e. what if launchpad's backup dies, and like those people who lost their gmail mail, *poof*! | 06:22 |
| keir | so there would have to be a way for blender.org to privately backup all blender-related data from launchpad to a different location | 06:22 |
| keir | for my project, libmv, i don't mind relying on launchpad | 06:24 |
| keir | but blender.org is quite paranoid about backups (understandably) | 06:24 |
| keir | ... and since launchpad is not yet OSS, i'm not sure how this would work. | 06:24 |
| mwh | well, once you've done bzr branch lp:blender blender-src you have a complete back up of that branch | 06:24 |
| keir | mwh, it's not just the code that's the issue | 06:24 |
| keir | it's all the bugs and whatnot | 06:25 |
| mwh | and i think you can get bug data with xmlrpc | 06:25 |
| keir | can you get enough data that you can 100% restore if launchpad were to nuke it's database? | 06:25 |
| keir | s/it's/its/ | 06:25 |
| mwh | that's very certainly the idea | 06:26 |
| keir | including blueprints, translations, answers, project metadata, everything? | 06:27 |
| keir | registered branches? | 06:27 |
| mwh | yes | 06:27 |
| keir | cool | 06:27 |
| mwh | for exactly the reasons you give | 06:27 |
| keir | where is this backup-launchpad script? | 06:27 |
| mwh | i don't know if the current implementation reaches this goal, however... | 06:27 |
| keir | but this is at least planned? | 06:28 |
| pochu | keir: I think it's planned | 06:28 |
| pochu | keir: yes. I also think you can ask an admin to backup the data, but I'm not sure. You may want to ask tomorrow (when the devs are more active ;)) | 06:28 |
| keir | pochu, no, that won't do; it'd have to be a cron job running on blender.org which backs up the entire project every day | 06:29 |
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| keir | i am writing up blockers for blender now | 06:57 |
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| radix | you can't yet get all your data out, but I think I've heard rumblings that it's planned | 07:20 |
| radix | the fact that we can't do complete data backups is also a blocker for Twisted | 07:20 |
| radix | but a minor one compared to "it's not open source" | 07:21 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #115851 in rosetta "can't choose export format" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115851 | 08:50 |
| pr3d4t0r | Greetings again. | 09:17 |
| pr3d4t0r | Q. We have a site (http://www.awke.org) and a project + dev team defined in launchpad.net - can you please provide a good example of how other teams integrate their project sites with launchpad.net or viceversa? | 09:18 |
| pr3d4t0r | We're looking for visual harmony and ease of use. | 09:18 |
| pr3d4t0r | Also, we aren't sure if there is a badgeware image somewhere like the ones that SourceForge uses that we could include in our project's page. Thanks in advance. | 09:19 |
| pr3d4t0r | OKi... lunchtime. See you guys later. | 09:21 |
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| beuno | pr3d4t0r: that will probably be best answered in the launchpad mailing list, where you can get a responde from the most knowledgable users, not just the ones present in IRC at the time :D | 09:55 |
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| pr3d4t0r | :: yawn :: | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: Ping... | 12:01 |
| thumper | pr3d4t0r: Pong | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: I'm looking for a good example of an external project site merged with launchpad.net. | 12:01 |
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| pr3d4t0r | thumper: We have http://www.awke.org going, we'd like to use launchpad for the things that make sense, etc. | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: If you can think of an example where the blending is done in an elegant way please let me know. | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: All the awke committers are studying Bazaar now and we figured integration with launchpad.net is the next step. | 12:01 |
| thumper | On the project home page there is a place to put an external web reference | 12:01 |
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| pr3d4t0r | thumper: Also, as a related question: is there a GIF "badge" and link that we could use on the awke.org pages to link back to launchpad.net? | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | Uh, oh... | 12:01 |
| thumper | pr3d4t0r: There is the png branding that you can find on the https://launchpad.net/launchpad page | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | _thumper_: Let me know if you missed the three-part question I asked. | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: Cool. | 12:01 |
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| pr3d4t0r | thumper: I guess you meant the rocket ship. | 12:01 |
| thumper | yeah | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: I was looking for a button-like thingy. | 12:01 |
| keir | thumper, ping! | 12:01 |
| thumper | pr3d4t0r: I don't know of any, best to ask mpt | 12:01 |
| thumper | keir: hi, you were asking about patch stuff before | 12:01 |
| keir | thumper, yes | 12:01 |
| thumper | keir: we have work planned that sort of matches what you were asking about | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: OKi. | 12:01 |
| pr3d4t0r | thumper: I'll ask on the mailing lists as well. | 12:01 |
| thumper | keir: to look at what is planeed, you can see the overview on the blueprints part for the launchpad-bazaar project | 12:01 |
| thumper | keir: the details of some (most) of the work is on the canonical wiki which is protected | 12:01 |
| thumper | but the overview should give some ideas | 12:01 |
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| keir | i see | 12:01 |
| keir | why is the launchpad wiki private? | 12:01 |
| keir | i can understand read-only | 12:01 |
| keir | but private? | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | because the canonical one is too? | 12:01 |
| thumper | there is a help.launchpad.net which is the lp wiki | 12:01 |
| thumper | the canonical one is private | 12:01 |
| Hogi[de|en] | hi. could any admin delete my account "Hogi", please? | 12:01 |
| thumper | there are historical reasons (hysterical raisins) | 12:01 |
| thumper | keir: there are too many wiki's | 12:01 |
| thumper | some planned work is to have the blueprint page be more wiki like, so you don't need external references | 12:01 |
| keir | thumper, yes please! | 12:01 |
| radix | +1 | 12:01 |
| thumper | part of the reason that there are private wiki pages, is due to there not being private blueprints | 12:01 |
| keir | thumper, for lightweight projects adding trac-style wiki capability to a project would be great | 12:01 |
| thumper | keir: I've heard mumblings that a wiki is something that is being considered to help projects start | 12:02 |
| thumper | the idea that lp can be a one stop shop for projects | 12:02 |
| keir | how many devs does launchpad have? | 12:02 |
| thumper | keir: around 25 | 12:02 |
| thumper | ish | 12:02 |
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| keir | thumper, exactly. without trac-style wiki, then it won't fly | 12:03 |
| keir | well, it probably will but wikis would help :) | 12:03 |
| keir | wow, 25 devs! | 12:03 |
| thumper | keir: there is much planned :) | 12:04 |
| thumper | and you thought it was good now... | 12:04 |
| keir | :) | 12:04 |
| keir | am i reading this blueprint right? buildbot test result reporting is coming | 12:04 |
| thumper | keir: which one? | 12:04 |
| keir | importd-oops-basic | 12:05 |
| thumper | the code import service is currently using buildbot | 12:05 |
| thumper | oops is the launchpad error reporting infrastructure | 12:05 |
| thumper | so, no, not quite | 12:05 |
| keir | are you going to add an online branch/patch review tool? | 12:07 |
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| thumper | keir: there is a blueprint called review-roadmap :) | 12:07 |
| keir | aaah, missed that one | 12:08 |
| thumper | launchpad is moving to a time boxed release cycle | 12:08 |
| thumper | so bugs and blueprints should get associated with launchpad milestones | 12:08 |
| keir | gnome- and ubuntu- style? | 12:08 |
| thumper | keir: four to six week cycles I think | 12:09 |
| thumper | more bzr style | 12:09 |
| keir | neat | 12:09 |
| keir | easier to do with server side stuff | 12:09 |
| thumper | this should make it more clear to interested parties to see what's coming | 12:09 |
| keir | what's coming up next release cycle? | 12:09 |
| thumper | launchpad 1.1 | 12:09 |
| keir | cool | 12:10 |
| keir | i have one question. is the url format baked in forever? | 12:10 |
| keir | the bugs/code/whatever.launchpad.net/project drives me nuts | 12:10 |
| keir | why not project.launchpad.net/bugs/whatever? | 12:10 |
| keir | then i can use the handy 'up' button to navigate back to project toplevel | 12:11 |
| keir | furthermore, when i'm already on bluprints, and i click the project name in the top bar, it takes me back to where i already am rather than project toplevel | 12:11 |
| keir | for example, on blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar, click the 'Launchpad Bazaar Integration' link at the top | 12:11 |
| keir | it takes you right back | 12:11 |
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| keir | rather than going to launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar as i expect it to | 12:12 |
| thumper | keir: yeah, well... log a bug? | 12:12 |
| keir | somehow i've managed to click it about 6 times already and i'm consciously aware that it doesn't go where I expect! | 12:12 |
| thumper | I tend to click on the tabs more | 12:12 |
| keir | alrigh | 12:12 |
| tokj | aloha | 12:12 |
| keir | #82232 | 12:16 |
| thumper | bug 82232 | 12:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 82232 in launchpad "Location bar links should go to Overview of that item" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82232 | 12:16 |
| thumper | keir: comment on that one | 12:16 |
| keir | i already did | 12:17 |
| thumper | keir: cool | 12:17 |
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