[01:31] <unikon> Any idea if Pidgin will be on  Gutsy Gibbon or will it only be al old version of GAIM?
[01:33] <Pumpernickel> It's already there.
[01:39] <unikon> well its not under pidgin?
[01:41] <Pumpernickel> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/pidgin
[01:44] <Hobbsee> unikon: sounds like your repos are borked.
[01:45] <unikon> well its up to date i beleive
[01:45] <unikon>  i havent had any past issues
[01:50] <Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ madison pidgin
[01:50] <Hobbsee>     pidgin | 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu1 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au gutsy/main Packages
[01:50] <Hobbsee>     pidgin | 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages
[01:50] <Hobbsee>     pidgin | 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu1 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au gutsy/main Sources
[01:50] <Hobbsee>     pidgin | 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Sources
[01:50] <Hobbsee> it's there
[01:51] <unikon> would i still be able to dl and install even though im using Dapper Drake 6.06 Xubuntu
[01:51] <Hobbsee> well, if you're not running gutsy, then of course you're not goign to be able to find it in your repos
[01:52] <Hobbsee> and no you will not.
[01:52] <Hobbsee> the dependancies, etc, will have changed.
[01:53] <unikon> ahh
[01:53] <unikon> when will the release of Gutsy be?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> see the /topic
[01:57] <unikon> OCT 18th eh?
[01:57] <Hobbsee> sounds about right
[02:40] <DanaG> I rolled back to my Feisty backup.
[02:41] <DanaG> I'll try Gutsy once it's in a later-than-infant stage.
[02:41] <DanaG> But, I figured out something about my suspend issue:
[02:41] <DanaG> with the 72.14 BIOS, even XP freezes on resume, in almost exactly the same way.
[02:42] <Hobbsee> you got a new bios, and it's dying?
[02:42] <Hobbsee> where'd you get teh new bios from?
[02:42] <DanaG> I rolled back to an older BIOS; I'll try XP suspend later.
[02:42] <DanaG> I got it from the Gateway site.
[02:42] <DanaG> Here was the changelog -- the new was 72.14, the one I'm now on is 72.10.
[02:43] <DanaG> http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/gateway_pa6_bios_7214.txt
[02:45] <Hobbsee> DanaG: then i'd suggest you'd do better calling gateway, rather than asking here
[02:46] <Hobbsee> (assuming you actually want anything done about it)
[04:36] <ajmorris_> anyone successfully got the partial upgrade tool working?
[09:27] <fuoco> i am using gutsy kernels on feisty. everything works well, but something broke in a specific kernel version - should i post a bug about it?
[09:30] <crimsun> not unless you can reproduce it in gutsy.
[09:31] <crimsun> we do not, by any stretch of any imagination, support running devel kernels on stable releases. :-)
[09:31] <crimsun> that said, it's likely you will be able to reproduce it currently, since udev hasn't changed.
[01:59] <Davo_Dinkum> Is Gutsy Gibbon aiming for FSF approval?
[02:01] <crdlb> what they said was they were going to create a gnu-approved gutsy variant like gnusense
[02:01] <crdlb> but regular gutsy won't be
[02:03] <Davo_Dinkum> Is it available for download yet?
[02:03] <crdlb> gutsy?
[02:03] <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah
[02:04] <crdlb> they're not even to the first alpha yet
[02:04] <Davo_Dinkum> Oh right
[02:04] <crdlb> which is apparently scheduled for june 7
[03:09] <okapi> hello to all
[03:09] <okapi> I just update from Kubuntu 6.10 and I am going crazy with 7.10...
[03:11] <okapi> First how you change and set the root password from the system setting? Seems to not keep or save the setting...Anyone can help?
[03:41] <feiy> somebody have readed the bug report:https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/115403
[03:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115403 in gnome-terminal "a key focus bug of the gnome-terminal in gutsy" [Low,Unconfirmed] 
[03:43] <feiy> yes,who can tell me how can i find the posit where
[03:43] <feiy> is bug generated!
[03:44] <feiy> the bug got same in xfce,so is a keyborder driver bug,but in ubuntu feisty ,everything is work good
[03:45] <feiy> ?
[04:36] <DShepherd> you know what would be nice.. if synaptic (or equivalent) would have screenshots of some of the applications.. or course where applicable.. that would be supremely useful...
[04:37] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: you mean little thumbnails when you choose or hover over a package name?
[04:37] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, right..something like that..
[04:38] <gnomefreak> and what about the people that complain its too slow now ;)
[04:38] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, dont tell me it is there already
[04:38] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, put it as an option... and turn if off by default..
[04:38] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: i thought of that during dapper
[04:38] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, some apps i just cant remember the exact name...
[04:39] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, i have an idea what it does....
[04:39] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: file a bug on it and give me bug # i will ping the devel about it
[04:39] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, super .. kool
[04:44] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: and remind me tuesday if you havent heard back from me. i will be out the better part of monday
[04:57] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, kool
[04:59] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, do you know of an app that highlights the cursor when the moving it after a long period of inactivity.. something like what Mac does...
[04:59] <DShepherd> ?
[04:59] <gnomefreak> no
[04:59] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, ok. thanks
[04:59] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:00] <joe4444> is Rhythmbox in Feisty newer than the one included with Dapper?
[05:01] <joe4444> there's a weird bug that stores invalid years in my iPod database with version 0.9.6
[05:01] <gnomefreak> !info rhythmbox dapper
[05:01] <ubotu> rhythmbox: music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 1759 kB, installed size 6332 kB
[05:01] <gnomefreak> !info rhythmbox feisty
[05:01] <ubotu> rhythmbox: music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.10.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 3281 kB, installed size 10748 kB
[05:01] <gnomefreak> feistys is higher versio
[05:02] <gnomefreak> version*
[05:02] <joe4444> can i update it with dapper?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> joe4444: not supported
[05:03] <gnomefreak> joe4444: you would have to update your ubuntu version
[05:03] <joe4444> well how could i get the latest version available to dapper?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> or find a build that runs newest on dapper
[05:03] <gnomefreak> joe4444: you cant other than ^^
[05:03] <gnomefreak> dapper LTS is for security fixes not new packages
[05:04] <joe4444> my bad
[05:04] <joe4444> i have edgy
[05:04] <gnomefreak> than you are in same postition only with different version
[05:05] <gnomefreak> joe4444: if your on edyg why not just upgrade to feisty?
[05:05] <joe4444> so new packages are never available?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> joe4444: not unless they are backported
[05:05] <DShepherd> !info oneko
[05:05] <ubotu> oneko: a cat chases the cursor (now a mouse) around the screen. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.sakura.6-4 (gutsy), package size 34 kB, installed size 148 kB
[05:05] <joe4444> i'm going to get feisty soon, but right now i'm not ready to back up everything i need to keep
[05:06] <joe4444> so the version included in the livecd is the only version that will ever be available?
[05:06] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, ^^ that's the best i have found so far
[05:06] <gnomefreak> joe4444: rythmbox is a bit tricky to backport or to install a new version
[05:06] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, and i had to google to find out what it looks like before installing .. :-(
[05:06] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:06] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: we have a few users that use it all the time
[05:06] <joe4444> gnomefreak, maybe i'm not asking the right question...
[05:07] <DShepherd> k
[05:07] <gnomefreak> joe4444: to get the latest software in a ubuntu release that is not the latest you would have to find an unofficial package or ask for it to be backported
[05:07] <joe4444> if there is a new revision of 0.9.6 that fixes this bug, would that revision be available via apt?
[05:08] <gnomefreak> joe4444: not sure what bug you mean but the latest version should be what you have.
[05:08] <gnomefreak> !info rhythmbox edgy
[05:08] <ubotu> rhythmbox: music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.6-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2910 kB, installed size 9420 kB
[05:08] <gnomefreak> ^^^ latest build
[05:08] <joe4444> for example, in CentOS i'd run "yum update httpd" if there is a new revision of apache with bug fixes
[05:09] <gnomefreak> does apt-cache policy rhythmbox   match that
[05:09] <joe4444> yeah
[05:09] <gnomefreak> joe4444: we use apt instead of yum. sudo apt-get upgrade will give you latest version that was built for your version of ubuntu
[05:10] <gnomefreak> joe4444: please take this to #ubuntu now since it has nothing to do with gutsy
[05:10] <joe4444> ok then i have a general question about the update manager...
[05:11] <joe4444> if a new revision of rhythmbox 0.9.6 were to be released, would the automatic update manager notify me?
[05:11] <joe4444> also, is it safe to upgrade to 7.04 using the update manager, or should i just run a clean install from a livecd?
[05:13] <DShepherd> joe4444, i did an upgrade.. and i had little issues (those issues we self inflicted) ...
[05:14] <DShepherd> joe4444, I guess a clean install is safer.... but backup is always a good thing to do in both cases... if possible
[05:16] <joe4444> thanks DShepherd
[05:17] <DShepherd> joe4444, your welcome
[05:28] <Pimp1984> Anyone ever used ndiswrapper?
[05:32] <Toma-> Pimp1984: long long ago, in ancient roman times
[05:32] <Toma-> Pimp1984: is it not working for you?
[05:35] <Pimp1984> I've followed the instructions for installing it, but when I type 'make install' I get an error message.
[05:36] <Pimp1984> 'cannot create directory /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/misc: Permission denied'
[05:37] <Toma-> sounds like a feisty issue... throw it up in #ubuntu and see if anyone catches it
[05:38] <Toma-> btw, you need to put sudo infront of the command youre running
[05:50] <DShepherd> gnomefreak, i just use the water cursor beryl/compiz effect for now,..
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[12:20] <Sivik> how do i assign a static ip to a interface via CLI
[12:20] <Hobbsee> Sivik: in /etc/network/interfaces, i believe - man interfaces should tell you more
[12:22] <Sivik> Hobbsee: i don't want to do it permently, just for a little while
[12:22] <Hobbsee> ahh
[12:23] <Hobbsee> i would assume you use ifconfig, iwconfig, etc
[12:23] <Sivik> and i know there is a way to do it but i can't remember how to do it
[12:23] <Sivik> ifconfig
[12:23] <Hobbsee> (which have associated manpages)