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unikonAny idea if Pidgin will be on  Gutsy Gibbon or will it only be al old version of GAIM?01:31
PumpernickelIt's already there.01:33
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unikonwell its not under pidgin?01:39
Pumpernickelhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/pidgin01:41
Hobbseeunikon: sounds like your repos are borked.01:44
unikonwell its up to date i beleive01:45
unikon i havent had any past issues01:45
Hobbseesarah@LongPointyStick:~$ madison pidgin01:50
Hobbsee    pidgin | 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu1 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au gutsy/main Packages01:50
Hobbsee    pidgin | 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages01:50
Hobbsee    pidgin | 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu1 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au gutsy/main Sources01:50
Hobbsee    pidgin | 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Sources01:50
Hobbseeit's there01:50
unikonwould i still be able to dl and install even though im using Dapper Drake 6.06 Xubuntu01:51
Hobbseewell, if you're not running gutsy, then of course you're not goign to be able to find it in your repos01:51
Hobbseeand no you will not.01:52
Hobbseethe dependancies, etc, will have changed.01:52
unikonahh01:53
unikonwhen will the release of Gutsy be?01:53
Hobbseesee the /topic01:53
unikonOCT 18th eh?01:57
Hobbseesounds about right01:57
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DanaGI rolled back to my Feisty backup.02:40
DanaGI'll try Gutsy once it's in a later-than-infant stage.02:41
DanaGBut, I figured out something about my suspend issue:02:41
DanaGwith the 72.14 BIOS, even XP freezes on resume, in almost exactly the same way.02:41
Hobbseeyou got a new bios, and it's dying?02:42
Hobbseewhere'd you get teh new bios from?02:42
DanaGI rolled back to an older BIOS; I'll try XP suspend later.02:42
DanaGI got it from the Gateway site.02:42
DanaGHere was the changelog -- the new was 72.14, the one I'm now on is 72.10.02:42
DanaGhttp://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/gateway_pa6_bios_7214.txt02:43
HobbseeDanaG: then i'd suggest you'd do better calling gateway, rather than asking here02:45
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Hobbsee(assuming you actually want anything done about it)02:46
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ajmorris_anyone successfully got the partial upgrade tool working?04:36
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fuocoi am using gutsy kernels on feisty. everything works well, but something broke in a specific kernel version - should i post a bug about it?09:27
crimsunnot unless you can reproduce it in gutsy.09:30
crimsunwe do not, by any stretch of any imagination, support running devel kernels on stable releases. :-)09:31
crimsunthat said, it's likely you will be able to reproduce it currently, since udev hasn't changed.09:31
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Davo_DinkumIs Gutsy Gibbon aiming for FSF approval?01:59
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crdlbwhat they said was they were going to create a gnu-approved gutsy variant like gnusense02:01
crdlbbut regular gutsy won't be02:01
Davo_DinkumIs it available for download yet?02:03
crdlbgutsy?02:03
Davo_DinkumYeah02:03
crdlbthey're not even to the first alpha yet02:04
Davo_DinkumOh right02:04
crdlbwhich is apparently scheduled for june 702:04
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okapihello to all03:09
okapiI just update from Kubuntu 6.10 and I am going crazy with 7.10...03:09
okapiFirst how you change and set the root password from the system setting? Seems to not keep or save the setting...Anyone can help?03:11
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feiysomebody have readed the bug report:https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11540303:41
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 115403 in gnome-terminal "a key focus bug of the gnome-terminal in gutsy" [Low,Unconfirmed] 03:42
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feiyyes,who can tell me how can i find the posit where03:43
feiyis bug generated!03:43
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feiythe bug got same in xfce,so is a keyborder driver bug,but in ubuntu feisty ,everything is work good03:44
feiy?03:45
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DShepherdyou know what would be nice.. if synaptic (or equivalent) would have screenshots of some of the applications.. or course where applicable.. that would be supremely useful...04:36
gnomefreakDShepherd: you mean little thumbnails when you choose or hover over a package name?04:37
DShepherdgnomefreak, right..something like that..04:37
gnomefreakand what about the people that complain its too slow now ;)04:38
DShepherdgnomefreak, dont tell me it is there already04:38
DShepherdgnomefreak, put it as an option... and turn if off by default..04:38
gnomefreakDShepherd: i thought of that during dapper04:38
DShepherdgnomefreak, some apps i just cant remember the exact name...04:38
DShepherdgnomefreak, i have an idea what it does....04:39
gnomefreakDShepherd: file a bug on it and give me bug # i will ping the devel about it04:39
DShepherdgnomefreak, super .. kool04:39
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gnomefreakDShepherd: and remind me tuesday if you havent heard back from me. i will be out the better part of monday04:44
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DShepherdgnomefreak, kool04:57
DShepherdgnomefreak, do you know of an app that highlights the cursor when the moving it after a long period of inactivity.. something like what Mac does...04:59
DShepherd?04:59
gnomefreakno04:59
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DShepherdgnomefreak, ok. thanks04:59
gnomefreakyw04:59
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joe4444is Rhythmbox in Feisty newer than the one included with Dapper?05:00
joe4444there's a weird bug that stores invalid years in my iPod database with version 0.9.605:01
gnomefreak!info rhythmbox dapper05:01
uboturhythmbox: music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 1759 kB, installed size 6332 kB05:01
gnomefreak!info rhythmbox feisty05:01
uboturhythmbox: music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.10.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 3281 kB, installed size 10748 kB05:01
gnomefreakfeistys is higher versio05:01
gnomefreakversion*05:02
joe4444can i update it with dapper?05:02
gnomefreakjoe4444: not supported05:02
gnomefreakjoe4444: you would have to update your ubuntu version05:03
joe4444well how could i get the latest version available to dapper?05:03
gnomefreakor find a build that runs newest on dapper05:03
gnomefreakjoe4444: you cant other than ^^05:03
gnomefreakdapper LTS is for security fixes not new packages05:03
joe4444my bad05:04
joe4444i have edgy05:04
gnomefreakthan you are in same postition only with different version05:04
gnomefreakjoe4444: if your on edyg why not just upgrade to feisty?05:05
joe4444so new packages are never available?05:05
gnomefreakjoe4444: not unless they are backported05:05
DShepherd!info oneko05:05
ubotuoneko: a cat chases the cursor (now a mouse) around the screen. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.sakura.6-4 (gutsy), package size 34 kB, installed size 148 kB05:05
joe4444i'm going to get feisty soon, but right now i'm not ready to back up everything i need to keep05:05
joe4444so the version included in the livecd is the only version that will ever be available?05:06
DShepherdgnomefreak, ^^ that's the best i have found so far05:06
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gnomefreakjoe4444: rythmbox is a bit tricky to backport or to install a new version05:06
DShepherdgnomefreak, and i had to google to find out what it looks like before installing .. :-(05:06
gnomefreaklol05:06
gnomefreakDShepherd: we have a few users that use it all the time05:06
joe4444gnomefreak, maybe i'm not asking the right question...05:06
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DShepherdk05:07
gnomefreakjoe4444: to get the latest software in a ubuntu release that is not the latest you would have to find an unofficial package or ask for it to be backported05:07
joe4444if there is a new revision of 0.9.6 that fixes this bug, would that revision be available via apt?05:07
gnomefreakjoe4444: not sure what bug you mean but the latest version should be what you have.05:08
gnomefreak!info rhythmbox edgy05:08
uboturhythmbox: music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.6-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2910 kB, installed size 9420 kB05:08
gnomefreak^^^ latest build05:08
joe4444for example, in CentOS i'd run "yum update httpd" if there is a new revision of apache with bug fixes05:08
gnomefreakdoes apt-cache policy rhythmbox   match that05:09
joe4444yeah05:09
gnomefreakjoe4444: we use apt instead of yum. sudo apt-get upgrade will give you latest version that was built for your version of ubuntu05:09
gnomefreakjoe4444: please take this to #ubuntu now since it has nothing to do with gutsy05:10
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joe4444ok then i have a general question about the update manager...05:10
joe4444if a new revision of rhythmbox 0.9.6 were to be released, would the automatic update manager notify me?05:11
joe4444also, is it safe to upgrade to 7.04 using the update manager, or should i just run a clean install from a livecd?05:11
DShepherdjoe4444, i did an upgrade.. and i had little issues (those issues we self inflicted) ...05:13
DShepherdjoe4444, I guess a clean install is safer.... but backup is always a good thing to do in both cases... if possible05:14
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joe4444thanks DShepherd05:16
DShepherdjoe4444, your welcome05:17
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Pimp1984Anyone ever used ndiswrapper?05:28
Toma-Pimp1984: long long ago, in ancient roman times05:32
Toma-Pimp1984: is it not working for you?05:32
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Pimp1984I've followed the instructions for installing it, but when I type 'make install' I get an error message.05:35
Pimp1984'cannot create directory /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/misc: Permission denied'05:36
Toma-sounds like a feisty issue... throw it up in #ubuntu and see if anyone catches it05:37
Toma-btw, you need to put sudo infront of the command youre running05:38
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DShepherdgnomefreak, i just use the water cursor beryl/compiz effect for now,..05:50
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teethdoodanyone running gutsy yet?10:36
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borschty__yes10:44
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Sivikhow do i assign a static ip to a interface via CLI12:20
HobbseeSivik: in /etc/network/interfaces, i believe - man interfaces should tell you more12:20
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SivikHobbsee: i don't want to do it permently, just for a little while12:22
Hobbseeahh12:22
Hobbseei would assume you use ifconfig, iwconfig, etc12:23
Sivikand i know there is a way to do it but i can't remember how to do it12:23
Sivikifconfig12:23
Hobbsee(which have associated manpages)12:23

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