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| moquist | ajmitch: how ready for testing or production is your auth tool? what if we just wanted it for configuring LDAP clients? | 03:42 |
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| ajmitch | depends on what you need configured for ldap | 03:53 |
| ajmitch | eg it's missing bits to tweak ldap config for ssl/tls, etc | 03:53 |
| moquist | no ssl/tls | 03:53 |
| ajmitch | for basic stuff it should work well enough | 03:54 |
| moquist | just PAM, libpam-ldap, and libnss-ldap | 03:54 |
| moquist | cool | 03:54 |
| moquist | how is it for winbind? | 03:54 |
| ajmitch | it should work for most cases, afaict | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | except for bits like joining the domain properly can be a bit strange | 03:56 |
| moquist | heh...isn't that the normal case? :) | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 03:57 |
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| ajmitch | you need this for feisty or gutsy? | 03:57 |
| moquist | I'd like to be able to use it on feisty, but the above two cases are the *only* cases we're concerned about. | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | and you need this yesterday? :) | 03:58 |
| moquist | I hate when big decisions come down to niggling details like these, but I'm prepping for an upcoming discussion on K12LTSP v. Edubuntu, and I want to be able to communicate the full picture well to my colleagues. | 03:58 |
| moquist | ajmitch: Nah. Next month or two, and I totally don't care if it's an unreleased dev/testing version, as long as I have a .deb that I can install that works for the above cases. | 03:59 |
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| ajmitch | that much is fine | 03:59 |
| moquist | ajmitch: and I'm more than happy to help test as I'm able. | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | excellent, willing victims | 03:59 |
| moquist | ajmitch: Cool - I'm not *at all* trying to be demanding. I was just asking about the current status of the project. :) | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | don't worry, it doesn't get nearly enough love as it is | 04:00 |
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| moquist | ajmitch: is there somewhere I should watch for the updated package, so I know when to grab it? | 04:03 |
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| ajmitch | well I can try & put it into feisty-backports as 'authtool' | 04:05 |
| ball | Is there a "live cd" of edubuntu? | 04:06 |
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| ball | hello Sleepy_Coder | 04:08 |
| Sleepy_Coder | Hello ball. | 04:08 |
| moquist | ball: Yes. "Edubuntu 7.04 Desktop CD" http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | 04:19 |
| moquist | ball: It's not an LTSP server, though. | 04:19 |
| ball | That's okay, I don't have any X terminals laying around at present anyway. | 04:19 |
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| moquist | Burgundavia: you still around? | 04:24 |
| ball | Well, looks like this download will take about two hours. | 04:25 |
| ball | thanks for the pointer moquist. | 04:25 |
| moquist | ball: np | 04:26 |
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| === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released ! grab it while its hot ! http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | Upgraders see: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes | ||
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| jsgotangco | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6675833.stm | 01:18 |
| jsgotangco | heh! | 01:18 |
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| willvdl | "Yes people laugh at it, then they criticise it, then they copy it." | 01:27 |
| willvdl | too true | 01:27 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 01:33 |
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| willvdl | jsgotangco, problem is...the classmate does rule | 01:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rule meaning? :) | 01:43 |
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| willvdl | sorry, "Rule" :) | 01:43 |
| willvdl | ogra-classmate, woot | 01:43 |
| ogra-classmate | hez hez | 01:43 |
| ogra-classmate | oops | 01:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hehe | 01:44 |
| ogra-classmate | hey hey indeed | 01:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | keyboard layout change? | 01:44 |
| ogra-classmate | seems i got a proper squashfs image running :) | 01:44 |
| willvdl | ogra, they're sending me one of their server boards as well. maybe I can squeeze a classmate out of them too ;) | 01:44 |
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| jsgotangco | willvdl: i am not bitter | 01:51 |
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| willvdl | :) | 01:57 |
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| juliux | hi willvdl | 02:00 |
| willvdl | juliux, hi. still looking for that poster | 02:00 |
| juliux | willvdl, thxs | 02:00 |
| juliux | willvdl, next week linuxtag starts :( | 02:01 |
| willvdl | as does eLearning Africa :) | 02:01 |
| willvdl | juliux, I have a mock up, just not a final version | 02:02 |
| moquist | willvdl: BTW, I was in the air approaching the U.S. when I finally remembered "Gary Oldman", and I had typed in "imdb.com" but not yet searched for "Army of Darkness" when I remembered "Bruce Campbell". | 02:02 |
| juliux | willvdl, can you send it to me? | 02:02 |
| willvdl | moquist, legend! | 02:03 |
| willvdl | juliux, it's not going to be of much use... | 02:03 |
| juliux | willvdl, hm ok | 02:03 |
| willvdl | it has no text and is a pdf | 02:03 |
| willvdl | it was originally outsourced | 02:03 |
| juliux | willvdl, did you see a nice wallpaper or a normal grafik we can print? | 02:03 |
| willvdl | juliux, let's take a look in the DIY marketing pool | 02:03 |
| juliux | willvdl, good idea | 02:04 |
| willvdl | know of anything that might be in there? | 02:04 |
| willvdl | apart from using just the logo... | 02:04 |
| willvdl | juliux, chatting to jono now... | 02:08 |
| juliux | willvdl, ok | 02:08 |
| jsgotangco | so willvdl looks like bruce campbell? heh | 02:08 |
| willvdl | gimme some sugar... | 02:10 |
| willvdl | juliux, jono's sending me a poster link. I'm also looking in the bzr branch: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/spreadubuntu/ | 02:16 |
| willvdl | but my internet has almost died | 02:16 |
| juliux | willvdl, great | 02:17 |
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| willvdl | juliux, anything in http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/ look right? | 02:32 |
| willvdl | apparently there is a poster there they always use | 02:33 |
| willvdl | (not edubuntu though...) | 02:33 |
| juliux | there is nothing edubuntu special | 02:33 |
| juliux | for ubuntu we have posters | 02:33 |
| juliux | we will print the highway to freedom poster in din a0 | 02:33 |
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| willvdl | juliux, ah. The edubuntu poster I was referring to was never fully commissioned. The screenshots etc. went in but it was never finalised | 02:35 |
| juliux | willvdl, ok, then i/we know what we can do over the summer;) | 02:36 |
| willvdl | juliux, I will get the work done on it so far. | 02:38 |
| willvdl | pity | 02:38 |
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| willvdl | juliux, this is the one jono and jenda suggest: http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/ | 02:48 |
| juliux | willvdl, but there is now edubunt poster an i am only searching for a edubuntu poster | 03:15 |
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| pedrolo | hi all | 03:50 |
| pedrolo | in my client not respondig keyboard. Only key 2 3 4 and 0 recognize | 03:51 |
| pedrolo | why? please | 03:51 |
| pedrolo | keyboard is an ps2 | 03:51 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi mate | 03:52 |
| bddebian | Hello Kamping_Kaiser | 03:53 |
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| Hornypian1 | Hi | 04:19 |
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| Hornypian1 | I need some help please | 04:19 |
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| pedrolo | in my client not respondig keyboard. Only key 2 3 4 and 0 recognize why? please | 04:32 |
| willvdl | pedrolo, have you tested the keyboard on another PC? | 04:38 |
| willvdl | Hornypian1, best just to ask the question :) | 04:39 |
| pedrolo | yes and works perfectly | 04:39 |
| willvdl | pedrolo, hmmm. Not sure, never heard of this | 04:39 |
| pedrolo | in the boot the keyboard work fine, but when login not | 04:39 |
| pedrolo | only work keys 2, 3 ,4 and 0 | 04:39 |
| pedrolo | i see the support but i don't see nothing | 04:40 |
| pedrolo | thanks willvdl | 04:40 |
| pedrolo | i add in dhcpd.conf "acpi = 0" but not work | 04:41 |
| willvdl | hmmm, weird keymapping maybe? | 04:41 |
| pedrolo | keymapping = es | 04:42 |
| pedrolo | not keymapping is correctly | 04:44 |
| pedrolo | only work trhee keys | 04:44 |
| pedrolo | and the key 0 repeat very much | 04:44 |
| pedrolo | not, keymapping is correctly | 04:45 |
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| willvdl | highvoltage, ping | 05:25 |
| willvdl | urk, erm, brb | 05:27 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: pong | 05:28 |
| willvdl | highvoltage, pm | 05:28 |
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| LaserJock | morning Edubuntu people | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: did you see my "roadmap" page? | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | ogra-classmate: still around? | 05:57 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, morning/evening | 05:57 |
| willvdl | about to have a peek | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | ogra-classmate: I've got about 24hrs before I expire from edubuntu-bugsquad | 05:57 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, I know https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuRoadmap is legacy but me tinks I should delete it :) | 05:59 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 06:00 |
| willvdl | good page | 06:01 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: perhaps it should be Edubuntu/DevelRoadmap or something | 06:06 |
| willvdl | yeah. thinking on that right now | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | it would be good to put it under "Development" | 06:07 |
| willvdl | think it needs a "Gutsy" specific name or tag? | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | well, I was thinking we'd just update it at/after the UDSs | 06:07 |
| willvdl | deffers. I'd say Edubuntu/Devel/RoadMap/GetItHere/ForGutsy/UntilItsGone | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | and we can also set the "Feature List" from the stuff on the roadmap that gets done | 06:08 |
| willvdl | just kidding. Right, we clean house each UDS and use the same page | 06:08 |
| willvdl | ooooh. you're on fire | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | so we should have at the end of gutsy a "Gutsy Features" page that would list the stuff we got implemented along with other nifty things | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | and a link to the gutsy application list ;-) | 06:09 |
| willvdl | nice | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | if we need any release-specifc documentation we can also put links there | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | so a user can easily go to one page and learn about a release | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | which I think is important for Edubuntu as it's still rapidly developing | 06:11 |
| willvdl | yeah, it would be a devel snapshot of the info. WE could move "stable" info onto www.edubuntu.org | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | yep | 06:14 |
| willvdl | righty. got to run home. still need to finalise the app review spec. bit complicated at the mo | 06:15 |
| willvdl | I like the way you've seperated tech | infrastructure | community | 06:16 |
| willvdl | that may work quite well | 06:16 |
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| LaserJock | we'll see | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | I just thought I'd get the ball rolling | 06:18 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, is nicah | 06:21 |
| willvdl | back on a bit later | 06:21 |
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| highvoltage | ogra-classmate: how's the classmate coming along? | 07:43 |
| ogra-classmate | fast :) | 07:44 |
| ogra-classmate | i got the squashfs running ... a complete edubuntu-live desktop and still 1gig free space on the disk | 07:44 |
| kleinmat | dvd? | 07:45 |
| ogra-classmate | 2gig flashdrive in a classmate pc | 07:45 |
| kleinmat | oh nice ;) | 07:45 |
| kleinmat | squashfs for temporary files? | 07:45 |
| ogra-classmate | no, for the system | 07:46 |
| kleinmat | loading into ram? | 07:46 |
| kleinmat | or acting from flashdrive? | 07:46 |
| ogra-classmate | you take one live iso squashfs image, mount that readeonly .... you take a second partition (ext2) and merge these two in a unionfs mount | 07:47 |
| ogra-classmate | all data hyou write to the unionfs will be stored in the ext2 partition | 07:48 |
| ogra-classmate | all data you never touched will come from the readolny fs | 07:48 |
| ogra-classmate | that way you can squeeze 2.3g of / into less than 1gig | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | 1GB free? wow | 07:49 |
| kleinmat | oh that's good.. | 07:49 |
| ogra-classmate | LaserJock: there was never doubt i would get that going with 1gig ;) | 07:49 |
| kleinmat | do you mean with data you write, files from the users ? | 07:49 |
| ogra-classmate | speed was my concern | 07:50 |
| kleinmat | or also new packages? | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | ogra-classmate: true | 07:50 |
| ogra-classmate | and its speedy enough now to even run add/remove properly | 07:50 |
| ogra-classmate | oo.o still takesw 1.5-2min to start though | 07:50 |
| ogra-classmate | kleinmat: all system files ... even new packages | 07:51 |
| kleinmat | and then it's merged together with the "outdated" and the new changed files? | 07:51 |
| ogra-classmate | i just installed flash on top of a readonly fs ;) | 07:51 |
| kleinmat | nice.. | 07:51 |
| ogra-classmate | right, all rw files are coming from the ext2 partition | 07:52 |
| ogra-classmate | a full dist-upgrade would break it though | 07:52 |
| kleinmat | another question: has anyone tested the new audiosystem coming with new edubuntu? | 07:53 |
| ogra-classmate | but its enough for the installation of security upgrades, codecs etc | 07:53 |
| kleinmat | so that you can use alsa at the ltsp thinclients.. | 07:53 |
| kleinmat | ? | 07:53 |
| ogra-classmate | right | 07:53 |
| kleinmat | noone? | 07:55 |
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| ogra-classmate | it works fine, what do you need to know ? | 07:56 |
| kleinmat | ah okay :) | 07:56 |
| kleinmat | so | 07:56 |
| ogra-classmate | LaserJock: as soon as i am near a machine with accounts that are not called teacher or student ;P | 07:56 |
| kleinmat | do you think i can install the new audiosystem ( fuseaudio? ) under ubuntu, not edubuntu? | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | ogra-classmate: excellent ;-) | 07:57 |
| kleinmat | if i install the ltspmetapackage i don't think fuseaudio is installed with it.. | 07:57 |
| kleinmat | or? | 07:57 |
| ogra-classmate | pulseaudio gets installed by default in everz ltsp install now ... no matter if ubuntu, kubuntu or edubuntu | 07:58 |
| kleinmat | wuhu that's great.. | 07:58 |
| ogra-classmate | its only client side stuff ... on the ltsp server side you only install the matching libasound plugins | 07:58 |
| ogra-classmate | teacher@edubuntu:~$ apt-cache show ltsp-server-standalone|grep Depends | 07:59 |
| ogra-classmate | Depends: ltsp-server, dhcp3-server, libasound2-plugins, libgstreamer-plugins-pulse0.10-0 | 07:59 |
| ogra-classmate | as you can see :) | 08:00 |
| kleinmat | installing the ltsp meta package and adding SOUND = Y and SOUND_DAEMON = fuse to the ltsp.conf and then it works? | 08:00 |
| ogra-classmate | no | 08:00 |
| kleinmat | ? | 08:00 |
| ogra-classmate | fuse has nothing to do with sound | 08:00 |
| ogra-classmate | also the necessary stuff is already set in lts.conf | 08:01 |
| ogra-classmate | you dont need to touch anything .... just boot your clients | 08:01 |
| kleinmat | okay nice.. | 08:01 |
| kleinmat | that's good. | 08:02 |
| kleinmat | now i've got a ltsp edgy server.. | 08:02 |
| kleinmat | do you think i can't easily update to feisty? | 08:02 |
| kleinmat | right with the clients? | 08:02 |
| kleinmat | distupgrade.. | 08:02 |
| ogra-classmate | rather rebuild the clients | 08:02 |
| kleinmat | that's not the problem.. | 08:03 |
| kleinmat | kay | 08:03 |
| kleinmat | cool.. | 08:03 |
| ogra-classmate | update the server to feisty (that will bring you the ltsp 5.0.7 package) and run sudo ltsp-build-client | 08:03 |
| kleinmat | do I have to remove the old chroot of the clients? | 08:04 |
| ogra-classmate | yes | 08:04 |
| ogra-classmate | but -build-client would have told you so qanyway <:) | 08:05 |
| kleinmat | ;) | 08:05 |
| kleinmat | the problem is, it's a business thinclient server so i | 08:05 |
| kleinmat | 'm a little scared.. | 08:05 |
| ogra-classmate | try it out on another machine then | 08:06 |
| kleinmat | i try it at a long weekend.. | 08:06 |
| kleinmat | so thank you.. :) | 08:07 |
| ogra-classmate | :) | 08:07 |
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| === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released ! grab it while its hot ! http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | Upgraders see: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes | ||
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| LaserJock | hmm, so I just had an interesting conversation about LTSP with one of the IT managers on campus | 09:40 |
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| LaserJock | he's very much a Windows guy | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | but he thought LTSP was really cool | 09:42 |
| yuriy | what's the devel channel for edubuntu? | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | here | 09:42 |
| yuriy | oh | 09:42 |
| yuriy | i want to work on porting the thin-client-manager to qt4 | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | we are small enough that we don't need a separate -devel | 09:42 |
| yuriy | oh, ok | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | nifty | 09:43 |
| yuriy | well for a small group, it's really nice! | 09:43 |
| yuriy | i just set it up yesterday, i was surprised how easy it was | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | perhaps it would be best to send an email with your idea to edubuntu-devel mailing list (on lists.ubuntu.com) | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | I'm sure Pete Savage would be interested in it | 09:44 |
| yuriy | LaserJock: it's part of this spec: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdubuntuKDE | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | he and Oliver ( ogra ) wrote thin-client-manager | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | yes, I've seen a fair amount of demand for KDE | 09:45 |
| LaserJock | it seems like tricky business | 09:46 |
| yuriy | k, thanks, hopefully i'll get started later tonight. first i need to learn how to use bzr, anyway. | 09:47 |
| LaserJock | excellent | 09:47 |
| LaserJock | and welcome to Edubuntu ;-) | 09:47 |
| ajmitch | hi | 09:54 |
| kleinmat|lernen | ogra-classmate: args I mistook?! fuseaudio with pulseaudio ;) | 09:55 |
| kleinmat|lernen | ogra-classmate: that's the new sounddemon.. | 09:55 |
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| willvdl | LaserJock, back again. Want me to move that roadmap page? | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | if you want | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | it's up to you, oh Edubuntu doc guru ;-) | 10:40 |
| willvdl | urk | 10:42 |
| willvdl | sweet. I'll get the ball rolling :) | 10:42 |
| willvdl | focus will-san. spec first | 10:44 |
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