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[03:53] depends on what you need configured for ldap [03:53] eg it's missing bits to tweak ldap config for ssl/tls, etc [03:53] no ssl/tls [03:54] for basic stuff it should work well enough [03:54] just PAM, libpam-ldap, and libnss-ldap [03:54] cool [03:54] how is it for winbind? [03:56] it should work for most cases, afaict [03:56] except for bits like joining the domain properly can be a bit strange [03:57] heh...isn't that the normal case? :) [03:57] yeah === moquist chuckles [03:57] you need this for feisty or gutsy? [03:57] I'd like to be able to use it on feisty, but the above two cases are the *only* cases we're concerned about. [03:58] and you need this yesterday? :) [03:58] I hate when big decisions come down to niggling details like these, but I'm prepping for an upcoming discussion on K12LTSP v. Edubuntu, and I want to be able to communicate the full picture well to my colleagues. [03:59] ajmitch: Nah. Next month or two, and I totally don't care if it's an unreleased dev/testing version, as long as I have a .deb that I can install that works for the above cases. === ajmitch has a couple of things to upload tonight, and will get onto rolling a new package [03:59] that much is fine [03:59] ajmitch: and I'm more than happy to help test as I'm able. [03:59] excellent, willing victims [03:59] ajmitch: Cool - I'm not *at all* trying to be demanding. I was just asking about the current status of the project. :) [04:00] don't worry, it doesn't get nearly enough love as it is === moquist understands === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [04:03] ajmitch: is there somewhere I should watch for the updated package, so I know when to grab it? === ball [n=ball@adsl-68-72-97-77.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:05] well I can try & put it into feisty-backports as 'authtool' [04:06] Is there a "live cd" of edubuntu? === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-6-59.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:08] hello Sleepy_Coder [04:08] Hello ball. [04:19] ball: Yes. "Edubuntu 7.04 Desktop CD" http://www.edubuntu.org/Download [04:19] ball: It's not an LTSP server, though. [04:19] That's okay, I don't have any X terminals laying around at present anyway. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [04:24] Burgundavia: you still around? [04:25] Well, looks like this download will take about two hours. [04:25] thanks for the pointer moquist. 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[01:27] too true [01:33] yeah === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-cce79478670ca04a] has joined #edubuntu [01:42] jsgotangco, problem is...the classmate does rule [01:43] rule meaning? :) === ogra-classmate [n=teacher@p548ADFAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:43] sorry, "Rule" :) [01:43] ogra-classmate, woot [01:43] hez hez [01:44] oops [01:44] hehe [01:44] hey hey indeed [01:44] keyboard layout change? [01:44] seems i got a proper squashfs image running :) [01:44] ogra, they're sending me one of their server boards as well. maybe I can squeeze a classmate out of them too ;) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [01:51] willvdl: i am not bitter === dean_za_ [n=edubuntu@196.211.20.58] has joined #edubuntu [01:57] :) === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:00] hi willvdl [02:00] juliux, hi. still looking for that poster [02:00] willvdl, thxs [02:01] willvdl, next week linuxtag starts :( [02:01] as does eLearning Africa :) [02:02] juliux, I have a mock up, just not a final version [02:02] willvdl: BTW, I was in the air approaching the U.S. when I finally remembered "Gary Oldman", and I had typed in "imdb.com" but not yet searched for "Army of Darkness" when I remembered "Bruce Campbell". [02:02] willvdl, can you send it to me? [02:03] moquist, legend! [02:03] juliux, it's not going to be of much use... [02:03] willvdl, hm ok [02:03] it has no text and is a pdf [02:03] it was originally outsourced [02:03] willvdl, did you see a nice wallpaper or a normal grafik we can print? [02:03] juliux, let's take a look in the DIY marketing pool [02:04] willvdl, good idea [02:04] know of anything that might be in there? [02:04] apart from using just the logo... [02:08] juliux, chatting to jono now... [02:08] willvdl, ok [02:08] so willvdl looks like bruce campbell? heh [02:10] gimme some sugar... [02:16] juliux, jono's sending me a poster link. I'm also looking in the bzr branch: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/spreadubuntu/ [02:16] but my internet has almost died [02:17] willvdl, great === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [02:32] juliux, anything in http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/ look right? [02:33] apparently there is a poster there they always use [02:33] (not edubuntu though...) [02:33] there is nothing edubuntu special [02:33] for ubuntu we have posters [02:33] we will print the highway to freedom poster in din a0 === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-159-185.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [02:35] juliux, ah. The edubuntu poster I was referring to was never fully commissioned. The screenshots etc. went in but it was never finalised [02:36] willvdl, ok, then i/we know what we can do over the summer;) [02:38] juliux, I will get the work done on it so far. [02:38] pity === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@h-68-166-111-146.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:48] juliux, this is the one jono and jenda suggest: http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/ [03:15] willvdl, but there is now edubunt poster an i am only searching for a edubuntu poster === juliux is now known as juliux_ === juliux_ is now known as juliux === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.37] has joined #edubuntu === pipedream [n=pipedrea@musselcracker.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.37] has joined #edubuntu === kleinmat [i=KhnkZrw0@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #edubuntu === pedrolo [n=pedrolo@cdmad1-a2-3-25.ipcom.comunitel.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:50] hi all [03:51] in my client not respondig keyboard. Only key 2 3 4 and 0 recognize [03:51] why? please [03:51] keyboard is an ps2 === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [03:52] Heya [03:52] hi mate [03:53] Hello Kamping_Kaiser === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.37] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57a96f27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Hornypian1 [n=mick@16.5.gr6.adsl.brightview.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:19] Hi === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt [04:19] I need some help please === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has left #edubuntu ["Moodle..."] === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [04:32] in my client not respondig keyboard. Only key 2 3 4 and 0 recognize why? please [04:38] pedrolo, have you tested the keyboard on another PC? [04:39] Hornypian1, best just to ask the question :) [04:39] yes and works perfectly [04:39] pedrolo, hmmm. Not sure, never heard of this [04:39] in the boot the keyboard work fine, but when login not [04:39] only work keys 2, 3 ,4 and 0 [04:40] i see the support but i don't see nothing [04:40] thanks willvdl [04:41] i add in dhcpd.conf "acpi = 0" but not work [04:41] hmmm, weird keymapping maybe? [04:42] keymapping = es [04:44] not keymapping is correctly [04:44] only work trhee keys [04:44] and the key 0 repeat very much [04:45] not, keymapping is correctly === caravena [n=caravena@41-171-28.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra-classmate [n=teacher@p548ADFAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu === t94xr [i=t94xr@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja_ [n=andy@host27-170-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja_ is now known as bluekuja === superseth [n=smarinel@adsl-75-15-120-201.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:25] highvoltage, ping [05:27] urk, erm, brb [05:28] willvdl: pong [05:28] highvoltage, pm === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage === pauljw [n=paul@pool29.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:55] morning Edubuntu people [05:57] willvdl: did you see my "roadmap" page? [05:57] ogra-classmate: still around? [05:57] LaserJock, morning/evening [05:57] about to have a peek [05:57] ogra-classmate: I've got about 24hrs before I expire from edubuntu-bugsquad [05:59] LaserJock, I know https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuRoadmap is legacy but me tinks I should delete it :) [06:00] hmm [06:01] good page [06:06] willvdl: perhaps it should be Edubuntu/DevelRoadmap or something [06:06] yeah. thinking on that right now [06:07] it would be good to put it under "Development" [06:07] think it needs a "Gutsy" specific name or tag? [06:07] well, I was thinking we'd just update it at/after the UDSs [06:07] deffers. I'd say Edubuntu/Devel/RoadMap/GetItHere/ForGutsy/UntilItsGone [06:08] and we can also set the "Feature List" from the stuff on the roadmap that gets done [06:08] just kidding. Right, we clean house each UDS and use the same page [06:08] ooooh. you're on fire [06:09] so we should have at the end of gutsy a "Gutsy Features" page that would list the stuff we got implemented along with other nifty things [06:09] and a link to the gutsy application list ;-) [06:09] nice [06:10] if we need any release-specifc documentation we can also put links there [06:10] so a user can easily go to one page and learn about a release [06:11] which I think is important for Edubuntu as it's still rapidly developing [06:12] yeah, it would be a devel snapshot of the info. WE could move "stable" info onto www.edubuntu.org [06:14] yep [06:15] righty. got to run home. still need to finalise the app review spec. bit complicated at the mo [06:16] I like the way you've seperated tech | infrastructure | community [06:16] that may work quite well === pitux [n=pitux@105-93-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [06:17] we'll see [06:18] I just thought I'd get the ball rolling [06:21] LaserJock, is nicah [06:21] back on a bit later === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra-classmate [n=teacher@p548ADFAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:43] ogra-classmate: how's the classmate coming along? [07:44] fast :) [07:44] i got the squashfs running ... a complete edubuntu-live desktop and still 1gig free space on the disk [07:45] dvd? [07:45] 2gig flashdrive in a classmate pc [07:45] oh nice ;) [07:45] squashfs for temporary files? [07:46] no, for the system [07:46] loading into ram? [07:46] or acting from flashdrive? [07:47] you take one live iso squashfs image, mount that readeonly .... you take a second partition (ext2) and merge these two in a unionfs mount [07:48] all data hyou write to the unionfs will be stored in the ext2 partition [07:48] all data you never touched will come from the readolny fs [07:49] that way you can squeeze 2.3g of / into less than 1gig [07:49] 1GB free? wow [07:49] oh that's good.. [07:49] LaserJock: there was never doubt i would get that going with 1gig ;) [07:49] do you mean with data you write, files from the users ? [07:50] speed was my concern [07:50] or also new packages? [07:50] ogra-classmate: true [07:50] and its speedy enough now to even run add/remove properly [07:50] oo.o still takesw 1.5-2min to start though [07:51] kleinmat: all system files ... even new packages [07:51] and then it's merged together with the "outdated" and the new changed files? [07:51] i just installed flash on top of a readonly fs ;) [07:51] nice.. [07:52] right, all rw files are coming from the ext2 partition [07:52] a full dist-upgrade would break it though [07:53] another question: has anyone tested the new audiosystem coming with new edubuntu? [07:53] but its enough for the installation of security upgrades, codecs etc [07:53] so that you can use alsa at the ltsp thinclients.. [07:53] ? [07:53] right [07:55] noone? === LaserJock gently pokes ogra-classmate about edubuntu-bugsquad [07:56] it works fine, what do you need to know ? [07:56] ah okay :) [07:56] so [07:56] LaserJock: as soon as i am near a machine with accounts that are not called teacher or student ;P [07:56] do you think i can install the new audiosystem ( fuseaudio? ) under ubuntu, not edubuntu? [07:57] ogra-classmate: excellent ;-) [07:57] if i install the ltspmetapackage i don't think fuseaudio is installed with it.. [07:57] or? [07:58] pulseaudio gets installed by default in everz ltsp install now ... no matter if ubuntu, kubuntu or edubuntu [07:58] wuhu that's great.. [07:58] its only client side stuff ... on the ltsp server side you only install the matching libasound plugins [07:59] teacher@edubuntu:~$ apt-cache show ltsp-server-standalone|grep Depends [07:59] Depends: ltsp-server, dhcp3-server, libasound2-plugins, libgstreamer-plugins-pulse0.10-0 [08:00] as you can see :) [08:00] installing the ltsp meta package and adding SOUND = Y and SOUND_DAEMON = fuse to the ltsp.conf and then it works? [08:00] no [08:00] ? [08:00] fuse has nothing to do with sound [08:01] also the necessary stuff is already set in lts.conf [08:01] you dont need to touch anything .... just boot your clients [08:01] okay nice.. [08:02] that's good. [08:02] now i've got a ltsp edgy server.. [08:02] do you think i can't easily update to feisty? [08:02] right with the clients? [08:02] distupgrade.. [08:02] rather rebuild the clients [08:03] that's not the problem.. [08:03] kay [08:03] cool.. [08:03] update the server to feisty (that will bring you the ltsp 5.0.7 package) and run sudo ltsp-build-client [08:04] do I have to remove the old chroot of the clients? [08:04] yes [08:05] but -build-client would have told you so qanyway <:) [08:05] ;) [08:05] the problem is, it's a business thinclient server so i [08:05] 'm a little scared.. [08:06] try it out on another machine then [08:06] i try it at a long weekend.. [08:07] so thank you.. :) [08:07] :) === esodan [n=esodan@159.16.1.81] has joined #edubuntu === esodan [n=esodan@159.16.1.81] has left #edubuntu [] === Starting logfile irclogs/edubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released ! grab it while its hot ! http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | Upgraders see: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Fri Apr 20 12:03:08 2007 === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === kleinmat is now known as kleinmat|afk === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.42.20] has joined #edubuntu [09:40] hmm, so I just had an interesting conversation about LTSP with one of the IT managers on campus === kleinmat|afk is now known as kleinmat|lernen [09:41] he's very much a Windows guy [09:42] but he thought LTSP was really cool [09:42] what's the devel channel for edubuntu? [09:42] here [09:42] oh [09:42] i want to work on porting the thin-client-manager to qt4 [09:42] we are small enough that we don't need a separate -devel [09:43] oh, ok [09:43] nifty [09:43] well for a small group, it's really nice! [09:43] i just set it up yesterday, i was surprised how easy it was [09:43] perhaps it would be best to send an email with your idea to edubuntu-devel mailing list (on lists.ubuntu.com) [09:44] I'm sure Pete Savage would be interested in it [09:44] LaserJock: it's part of this spec: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdubuntuKDE [09:44] he and Oliver ( ogra ) wrote thin-client-manager [09:45] yes, I've seen a fair amount of demand for KDE [09:46] it seems like tricky business [09:47] k, thanks, hopefully i'll get started later tonight. first i need to learn how to use bzr, anyway. [09:47] excellent [09:47] and welcome to Edubuntu ;-) [09:54] hi [09:55] ogra-classmate: args I mistook?! fuseaudio with pulseaudio ;) [09:55] ogra-classmate: that's the new sounddemon.. === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === szegey [n=szegey@ppp-88-217-42-216.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #edubuntu === szegey [n=szegey@ppp-88-217-42-216.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has left #edubuntu [] === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [10:35] LaserJock, back again. Want me to move that roadmap page? [10:39] if you want [10:40] it's up to you, oh Edubuntu doc guru ;-) [10:42] urk [10:42] sweet. I'll get the ball rolling :) [10:44] focus will-san. spec first === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57a96f27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu