=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-228.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:54] Riddell: are you aware of the bad merge for networkstatus that you did? [12:55] Hobbsee: nope [12:55] what's up? [12:55] Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/112134 [12:55] Launchpad bug 112134 in knetworkmanager "knetworkmanager: error while loading shared libraries: libnetworkstatus.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [Undecided,Confirmed] === Hobbsee has fixed other kde bits [12:55] but nto that [12:56] maybe it'll fix itself with KDE 3.5.7 :) [12:56] that's the hope, yes. [12:56] that's why i didnt go and fix it, and need another sponsor [12:57] Riddell: btw, i got proposed for core-dev [12:57] proposed? [12:57] Riddell: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2007-May/000111.html [01:03] is sealne sometimes around here ? [01:03] sometimes, yes [01:03] i would like to know if he would accept me to do a patch for this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/45026 [01:03] Launchpad bug 45026 in k3b "K3b dont find emovix-2 and normalize" [Medium,Confirmed] [01:04] Hobbsee: I want to get proposed for something, and not lashings from a big point stick either :) [01:04] does it still apply in 1.0.1? [01:04] nixternal: heh [01:04] Hobbsee: every version [01:04] and even 2.0 [01:04] right [01:05] i'd imagine it'd be good to do after it' sbeen merged [01:05] marseillai: only during european working hours [01:05] ok [01:05] thx [01:19] http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/krename.html [01:19] woohoo! === nixternal requests sync! [01:20] yay! === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442f6.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] anyone want to check over marseillai's work on kcontrol-autostart? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5221 [01:31] Riddell: allready uploaded [01:31] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kcontrol-autostart [01:31] if it was what you mean [01:32] groovy [01:32] marseillai: who did that? [01:32] mmmmmmm [01:32] this one was gpocentek [01:33] and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kyamo this one was mr_pouit === marseillai ask who he knows : kubuntu people and french people [01:33] :D [01:39] Riddell: are there any tasks that need to be done asap right now? or are higher priority? [01:39] Hobbsee: ^^? [01:40] nixternal: emailing the kubuntu-devel ML, telling them that i suck, and that the meeting will likely have to be delayed till next week === nixternal refrains from telling Kubuntu devs to hold off on a meeting for a week [01:40] that is like telling me to tie a steak my to arse and running through the outback [01:40] Riddell: which reminds me - which arches do you have of 3.5.7, nad which do you still need to get? [01:41] nixternal: there are meetings on for the rest of the week - the only day with that sort of time is monday night [01:41] Hobbsee: amd64 done, i386 compiling away [01:41] which is less than 24 hours [01:41] for feisty [01:41] Riddell: right. and gutsy? [01:41] Hobbsee: doing gutsy after feisty this time (otherwise fiesty won't be ready in time for 3.5.7 release) [01:42] right === Hobbsee hides from mithrandir [01:42] you could always throw them at the buildds, and see if htey build :P [01:42] nixternal: what's the status of your kde 4 packages for feisty? === nixternal grabs the list [01:43] actually gotta boot up the machine [01:43] there were lib issues with some packages again [01:46] Houston we (I) have a problem [01:47] 2 hard drive deaths in 1 week [01:47] someone is mad at me [01:47] Riddell: building the gutsy packages on brandon's machines would work - there are pbuilders there [01:48] which means you can hve them all quicker [01:48] does brandon have faster machines than I do? [01:51] perhaps - but i dont think it's an either or [01:52] if you're building feisty on yours, build gutsy at the same time on his [01:52] in fact, if you were really wanting to be evil, you could probably build the amd64 and i386 binaries on his at the same time. *g* [01:53] come to think of it, i can probably get access to some others to do either of the amd64 or i386 builds [01:53] I can setup a 64bit env [01:53] which should build things 3x as fast, as it's split between 3 machines [01:53] just need to swap out hard drives and rebuild this setup really quick [01:53] well gutsy only needs one arch, then it just gets uploaded to the archive [01:54] true [01:54] right [01:55] Riddell: where are these sources then, and how are you bulding them? [01:57] Hobbsee: sources for 3.5.7 are only on ktown [01:57] Riddell: do you need a login for that? [01:58] which I think I can give out access to if you want them [01:58] that'd be good [01:58] and which order are you building them in? [01:58] I follow this for order http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/docs/people.html [01:59] e-mail me your ssh public key for access === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:59] Riddell: it's on LP, i'll grab you teh link [01:59] oh aye [01:59] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/%7Ehobbsee/+sshkeys [02:16] Riddell: right, the build access please? :) [02:18] you should be able to log into ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org [02:21] Riddell: seems to think i'ts a mail address [02:22] what does? [02:22] ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org [02:22] konqueror [02:22] ahh, with ssh [02:22] lol [02:22] fish://ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org :) [02:23] Riddell: right. [02:23] Riddell: and then i have to figure out where htey are... [02:25] stable/3.5.7/ [02:25] *bz2 [02:26] I'm away to bed, if you're up for doing arts, kdelibs, kdebase etc until you fall asleep that would be great [02:26] grah...but where's stable? [02:26] what's your starting dir? [02:26] //home/packager/ftpubuntu/ [02:27] bah. the one place i didnt try [02:27] common patches need updating (svn co svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-kde/trunk/common-patches/) [02:28] Riddell: do these have debian/ already in them, or what? [02:28] as do various other patches, kdegraphics and kdepim are the worst [02:28] Hobbsee: no they don't, you need to apt-get source kdefoo from gutsy [02:28] make the .orig [02:28] ah right [02:28] copy over the debian dir [02:28] dch for the new version [02:28] i thought you'd done them for feisty, and wer egoing to use the same tarballs for gutsy [02:28] and work out which patches need updated/removed [02:29] Hobbsee: the stuff I've done for feisty is very quick and hacky, it's not a good starting point [02:29] Riddell: right. and debian's version? [02:29] seeing as i believe they have tarballs already? === Hobbsee is confused, as she thought you were taking the work off them, too. [02:30] and duplicating work == bad. [02:30] Hobbsee: not sure where debian have their .orig tars, you'd need to ask [02:31] Riddell: i've got it in my backscroll - my question was more "are we taking their work to start with, or are we upgrading just from the ubuntu sources?) [02:31] s/)/"/ [02:32] Hobbsee: I've already merged with debian for gutsy, but they will have updated patches that we can use [02:32] where they == ? [02:33] they == upstream kde, or they == debian? [02:33] they == debian [02:33] svn co svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-kde/trunk/packages/ [02:33] oh right, so taking the upstream kde, taking the debian packages and updating ours with them, then building [02:34] rather than just pulling the debian tarballs, which i believe are finished, and adding anything ubuntu specific. [02:34] take the debian .orig.tar.gz's if you can get them, take our packaging and update the patches from debian [02:34] which seems odd to me - but i may well be missing something [02:35] right. which means i wouldnt need to use ktown, per se. [02:35] gotcha. [02:35] remember to ignore debian's 98_buildprep patches of course [02:36] any others to be wary of? [02:38] I usually scrap 01_branch patches too === Hobbsee nods [02:39] and do make -f debian/rules buildprep until everything applies [02:40] where everything == all the patches? === Hobbsee nods [02:40] yes === Hobbsee doesnt know about make -f debian/rules buildprep but will lkely find out [02:40] various patches will have been applied upstream for 3.5.7 so they can just go [02:41] yep [02:41] buildprep applies patches then runs autotools [02:41] ahhh...i see [02:41] then unapplies patches [02:41] gotcha [02:41] useful [02:43] dpkg-scanpackage /var/cache/pbuilder/kde4/result/ > Package [02:43] is that correct? [02:45] apt-ftparchive packages [directory] > Packages [02:46] or that...thanks [02:47] Riddell: sounds doable. well, more to the point, it sounds like a challenge which will eventually be doable. [02:47] Hobbsee: groovy, good luck, I'm off to snooze [02:48] Riddell: have a good sleep === Hobbsee will probably look when she gets back from uni === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.181.228.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee cant find qt-x11-free [03:31] evening :) === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:32] hi jjesse :) [03:32] how are you Hobbsee? [03:32] jjesse: i'm looking into doing the kde 3.5.7 for gutsy [03:32] oh fun [03:32] i just got to my hotel for the week [03:32] but i cant seem to find qt-x11-free for 3.5.7, which it appears that i'll need as a dep for everything else. [03:33] ooh hi Hobbsee! [03:33] hi jjesse [03:33] hiya Jucato [03:33] hi Jucato! [03:33] Hobbsee: can't find qt where? [03:34] on ktown [03:34] oh... hehe I don't know ktown (yet) :P [03:34] what is ktown? [03:34] maybe it's name as qt-copy? [03:36] Jucato: possibly, but i cant see anything startign with a q, or similarly named === Jucato doesn't know ktown, or how to search in it... [03:42] hmmm. looking at the changelog for qt-x11-free, i'm suspecting it doesnt actually release at the same time kde does === Hobbsee hugs the kioslaves [03:43] speaking of that... === Jucato just saw a sysinfo:/ package in kde-apps... [03:45] nice :) [03:46] hm...I presume it's ok to have 2 agenda topics from one person? :D [03:46] of course [03:46] but the meeting's going to have to delay to next week [03:46] dont you remember my entire list? [03:46] er no... [03:46] ahh === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-228.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:21] okay, so it's just the libtool patch that dies. [04:22] build-dep on libtool & automake1.10? [04:22] I had that issue with krename [04:22] relibtoolization at build time is better than the patch [04:26] it's a debian patch for it, so it should apply [04:27] ya it should [04:28] hrmm [04:43] i think i killed it. [04:46] I am finally back to building KDE 4 Alpha on amd64 [04:46] lets see how these new debs rock out [04:47] damn, I forgot to add 'dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null > Packages' to my script [04:47] ahh, libstreamanalyzer.so craps out again [04:47] yay === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:53] blerg. [04:53] i dont understand this at all. === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:58] don't try to build KDE 4 Alpha packages on a Gutsy box...libstreamer is a pain in the arse ;) [04:58] jesus I totally forgot I dist-upgraded that box [05:00] argh, wth is up with sata dvd drives and booting from them [05:07] OH FUCKING HELL. [05:11] nixternal: i hate ID10T errors. [05:11] hahaha [05:11] me too Hobbsee, me too [05:12] ooh, idiot error x2!!! [05:13] i cant *believe* i did that. [05:14] lol === hsitter [n=me@N705P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:15] wonder how long arts takes to build... [05:15] forever [05:16] actually, not as long as kdelibs [05:16] right [05:16] so i might not do this l ocally [05:40] arts is done. [05:40] nwo for kdelibs. === mbiebl [n=michael@e180068028.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee wonders how one can tell which upstream patches are no longer needed, without an upstream changelog [05:51] intuition & random guesswork [05:51] right === Hobbsee waits === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.107.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee wonders about the libjasper change, still [06:03] Hobbsee: I'm happy that "you suck", actually :o) [06:04] Hobbsee: (I mean the date's better for me) [06:04] right, yeah [06:20] argh. now i know nothing about xinerama. [06:22] and a constant's been redefined. [06:27] Hobbsee: is there a new date for the meeting? [06:27] Jucato: next week [06:27] apart from that, no [06:27] ok. that'll do :) === Jucato erases from korganizer [06:29] ahh, here we go === Hobbsee can make imbrandon's build machine do some more work. === Jucato wonders if it's possible for Adept to spit out more informative error messages... [06:32] heh [06:32] i wish [06:33] I'm kinda getting tired of telling people who encounter "it might break something" error messages to just use apt-get :) [06:50] 90% done [07:13] yay, kdelibs building === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.177.117] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:43] <_marseillais> hi everybody [08:43] <_marseillais> good morning [08:43] hiya [08:44] <_marseillais> hi Hobbsee :) [08:45] <_marseillais> this night i receive an email with this attachment : i've http://librarian.launchpad.net/7722744/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-ia64.kyamo_0.40%2B0.4a-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz and another one for another package! is this my error? i've done something wrong with my package? or is it only a build problem and waiting will solve it? [08:45] _marseillais: [08:45] _marseillais: depends what the error is [08:46] <_marseillais> it's in the attachment Hobbsee [08:46] that looks to be a problem with the buildds [08:46] so just wait, and i'tll be given back [08:46] <_marseillais> a problem to access repo [08:46] <_marseillais> oki [08:46] if it's not done in a few days (maybe a week, a severything's being declined at the moment, then ask an archive admin for a giveback of it) [08:46] yeah [08:58] <_marseillais> oki [08:58] <_marseillais> sorry for delay i'm at work === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:59] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, do you know if there are some "easy task" to do? by easy i mean wich doesn't take too many time and too many skills [08:59] Riddell: i've got arts, but kdelibs has ftbfs and i'm not sure why yet. sources and binaries are at hobbsee.ubuntuwire.com === Hobbsee --> running out hte door [09:00] _marseillais: usually marked as bitesize on LP === _marseillais don't understand... :$ [09:01] :) === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais waits seaLne === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442f6.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@katapult/developer/tvo] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57aed514.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Adios Espania! | Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by nixternal at Thu May 17 05:32:56 2007 [10:09] who is the person to talk to about language support in kubuntu? [10:10] and do they have a minute to look at bug 113145? [10:10] Launchpad bug 113145 in language-support-fr "language-support-fr does not install on Feisty Fawn (7.04)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113145 === nuu [n=neuro@85-18-14-28.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957C2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying is now known as freeflying|away === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEEA2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.107.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:31] hi guys [11:31] does anybody know of a good introduction/tutorial to programming kio slaves ? [11:34] http://www.heise.de/ct/english/01/05/242/ ? [11:34] but it's a #kde-devel question [11:37] thanks === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.107.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais is still looking for a step to step tutorial to develop with kdevelop or something else to learn programmation in kde. [11:43] start by learning programming language X [11:44] read tutorials for Qt programming in X [11:44] <_marseillais> Riddell, i don't find one enough easy for me [11:44] look at small examples of programmes in KDE [11:44] start fixing things [11:44] <_marseillais> i need something wich take me by hand === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.107.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:49] Personally, PyQt or PyKDE is a dream. === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:57] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hey, hows the patch coming ? :) [11:58] _StefanS_: remind me again which patch that is? [11:58] <_StefanS_> Riddell: its the patch that takes care of the nonworking restart/reboot, and localization issues in the logout [12:00] <_StefanS_> Riddell: sent on 2007-05-07 00:03 [12:02] _StefanS_: I've made a note to include it when I do the 3.5.7 packages for gutsy [12:02] <_StefanS_> Riddell: oh.. I think those people on the bug reports want it in feisty [12:03] <_StefanS_> Riddell: thats not up to me ofcourse, but shouldn't bugfixes go with the version it was reported in ? [12:04] Riddell: do you know where there is a vertical kubuntu logo? [12:04] <_StefanS_> kwwii: on the kmenu ? [12:05] kwwii: nope, you're the logo maker :) [12:05] _StefanS_: actually, that is a good idea [12:05] <_StefanS_> kwwii: well until I saw its not there anymore :) [12:05] <_StefanS_> kwwii: probably saw it in edgy === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.107.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:06] _StefanS_: it should also be there in feisty [12:06] unless someone changed something and didn't mention it [12:06] <_StefanS_> kwwii: I just have some gears and bluish background [12:06] _StefanS_: right, that is the one from edgy [12:07] dapper had a normal logo turned 90 [12:08] Riddell: do you want to answer Gerrys mail or should I? [12:08] kwwii: yes [12:09] kwwii: about akademy marketing contact? [12:09] Riddell: yes [12:09] I would suggest talking to sebas, I guess [12:10] I'm not sure what he means actually [12:10] I'll answer it [12:11] well, he needs to talk to someone who knows where/how to get the right information about the stuff from last year as well as the requirements, etc. for this year [12:13] remember the problems we had last year with the border, etc.? that is just one thing that can go wrong in the planning [12:14] e-mailed [12:14] zander did it last year [12:14] this year it's not clear who's doing it [12:14] right, got it...seems good enough for a start [12:15] hehe, who is going to scribus hell? [12:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: so, should write on the bugreports that it will be fixed in gutsy only ? [12:15] <_StefanS_> (should I write) [12:15] _StefanS_: yes, it won't pass the strict requirements for a SRU [12:16] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ok [12:16] <_StefanS_> Riddell: where are those specs anyways+ [12:16] which specs? SRU? [12:16] <_StefanS_> yes [12:16] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/StableReleaseUpdates [12:16] <_StefanS_> so that I know that next time [12:17] <_StefanS_> well I see your point [12:17] <_StefanS_> hotkeys not being correct on localized kubuntus is not very critical hehe [12:17] <_StefanS_> btw, there will be a knetworkmanager 0.2 soon (from the knm mailinglist) [12:18] ooh, cool === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@WL-POOL00-59.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:22] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yes, and with luck my LEAP patch will make it too, so that will all result in people being able to easier connect to corporate wlan that has Cisco equipment in them [12:22] <_StefanS_> Riddell: phase2 eap seems to make it too === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.107.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEEA2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db444a7.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@116.21.98.72] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N752P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-228.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEEA2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:04] <\sh> Riddell, could you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86824 if we can apply it to kdelibs-data ? [02:04] Launchpad bug 86824 in wine "wine installed apps menus problems" [Undecided,Confirmed] === hsitter [n=me@N752P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:07] \sh: so long as it doesn't cause other problems [02:09] <\sh> Riddell, we can revert the entry if there are pitfalls ... [02:11] \sh: I've made a note to include it with 3.5.7 in gutsy [02:11] <\sh> cool [02:11] <\sh> Riddell, thx === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away [02:38] Riddell: how goes it? [02:40] _StefanS_: your patch - which package was it against? [02:40] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: kdebase(ksmserver) [02:40] ah right [02:41] Hobbsee: ca va [02:41] Riddell: in english? [02:41] heh funny I asked the same question from _StefanS_ a few days ago :) [02:41] Hobbsee: it goes [02:41] Riddell: ahhh. [02:41] Riddell: did you want to hear the status on the kde packages? [02:43] Hobbsee: you got arts done but you got stuck on kdelibs? [02:44] Riddell: yeah, fails to build, and i cant actually see why, in amongst all the warnings === batfree [n=chatzill@124.129.125.251] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:46] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: is it something I can help you with? [02:46] _StefanS_: dunno. [02:46] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: heh.... okay. :) [02:47] _StefanS_: sources are at hobbsee.ubuntuwire.com/kdelibs, iirc [02:47] _StefanS_: btw, iirc, someone from #kde was wondering if the logout patch is available outside of kubuntu (like in kde-apps.org) [02:47] <_StefanS_> Jucato: ah thats nice :) - someone might actually appreciate it hehe [02:48] _StefanS_: some appreciate it. some hate it. that's life :) [02:48] <_StefanS_> Jucato: guess so :) - well it isnt available at the moment, but I could probably put it online there [02:48] <_StefanS_> Jucato: how did they expect it to be packaged? [02:49] _StefanS_: dunno really. he/she was just wondering. usually patches are just sumbitted there as patches... :) [02:49] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well I can put it there, later on probably. Then people can take it where they want to :) [02:50] yep. :) [02:50] of course, nice screenshots would be extra sweet :) [02:51] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I know. Screenshots work :D [02:51] <_StefanS_> Jucato: btw, kdm is usually localized, isn't it? [02:51] I think so [03:03] Riddell: if you could look at / help me out with kdelibs at some point, i'd appreciate it [03:06] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: got a log, I can try to help you [03:06] _StefanS_: i dont :( [03:06] _StefanS_: i didnt pipe it out of the pbuilder, as i didnt think of it [03:06] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: oh, well I dont have pbuilder set up anyways so I wont be able to help === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:06] or a chroot [03:08] <_marseillais> Riddell, when you'll release kde3.5.7 i'll make a debdiff including kopete_emoticon_manager and send it for a revu for gutsy. I'll of course test it before but do you want me to send it to you for your kubuntu repo ? [03:09] _marseillais: please CC me on any mail about it. and file a bug about kdenetwork with the debdiff [03:09] <_marseillais> mmmmmmmmmmm [03:09] <_marseillais> no [03:10] (because i tend to touch kdenetwork - or used to) [03:10] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, no i'll not [03:10] okay then.... [03:10] <_marseillais> because i don't have your email Hobbsee ! :) [03:11] _marseillais: it's on launchpad. it's also fairly obvious [03:11] hobbsee@ubuntu.com / hobbsee@kubuntu.org [03:11] <_marseillais> i beg you pardon .... i'm trying to be funny because my teeth hurts me a lot... [03:11] <_marseillais> oki easy i'll remember === _StefanS_ pulls out one more of _marseillais teeth [03:11] <_StefanS_> does it hurt more now ? :D === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-228.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee just thought it was odd. [03:12] <_marseillais> _StefanS_, too late [03:13] <_marseillais> my doctor removes two of my wisdom teeth on thursday [03:13] <_StefanS_> _marseillais: the ones in the lower jaw hurts most to get removed, I remember :) [03:15] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: thats not obvious about your email. Your handle has an uppercase H and you email dont. [03:15] <_StefanS_> hehe [03:15] _StefanS_: i dont believe it's case sensitive [03:15] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: its not ;) [03:15] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: just kidding [03:15] :P === Jucato finds comfort that he's not the only one having tooth problems this week... === _StefanS_ is bored with his current work.... === _marseillais has find kde 3.5.7 repo and kdenetwork source package so i'll make debdiff this evening [03:20] _marseillais: doesnt exist yet for gutsy, for the most part [03:20] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, yes but feisty one is for the moment enough [03:20] <_marseillais> like that i'll be able to see if the patch apply better on kde3.5.7 than 3.5.6 [03:21] <_marseillais> and perhaps even test it === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:45] hi all [03:45] hi mhb [03:45] even bleeps and people having problems with teeth [03:46] :o) [03:46] manchicken|away: ping? [03:46] #4 0xb7a2c7f0 in nanosleep () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 [03:46] #5 0xb7a2c63f in sleep () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 [03:46] #6 0xb7828bd9 in KCrash::startDrKonqi (argv=0xbf88221c, argc=17) [03:46] at /build/buildd/kdelibs-3.5.6/./kdecore/kcrash.cpp:312 [03:46] #7 0xb783f52e in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler (sig=11) [03:46] at /build/buildd/kdelibs-3.5.6/./kdecore/kcrash.cpp:229 [03:46] was the backtrace of the system settings crash [03:48] Shiny: don't people get kicked for changing their nicks often? :o) [03:48] mhb: depends on the mood of the ops [03:48] Shiny: and don't forget those who |away themselves [03:48] :o) === Shiny keeps removign them, yes [03:49] Shiny: sorry for having fun, I saw you (as bleep) poke manchicken|away and I couldn't resist :o) [03:49] :P === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:52] Heya === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db443d6.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:54] <_marseillais> does anyone allready work on that : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kiosktool/+bug/6306 ?? [03:54] Launchpad bug 6306 in kiosktool "Kiosk admin tool tries to login with root account " [Medium,Confirmed] [03:55] marseillais: it's a spec https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKiosktool [03:55] _marseillais: feel free to take it on [03:55] but let me know so I can assign it appropriately [03:56] <_marseillais> Riddell, i mostly feel free to look at it. absolutly not sure i can do anything! [03:56] <_marseillais> but i really thing it would be good to have it in kubuntu [03:56] <_marseillais> so i'll take a look [03:57] <_marseillais> why we can't see kubuntu gutsy spec for the moment ? [03:57] _marseillais: what do you mean? [03:58] <_marseillais> is there anywhere a list of spec like this one : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKiosktool ? [03:59] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+specs is the gutsy specs but I think I need to target the kubuntu ones for gutsy first [04:00] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/ [04:00] that's the ones we did at sevilla [04:00] <_marseillais> does the job for kiosktool need big C++, Qt, Linux skills and to be start right now? if it is the case i don't think i can do it. if it's not i'll take a look after the two packaging things i want to do [04:01] _marseillais: it needs c++ and qt skills yes [04:02] <_StefanS_> Riddell: btw, do you know which intel device the ubuntu mobile is aimed at? [04:02] <_StefanS_> Riddell: looks very interesting [04:02] _StefanS_: all new ones [04:02] <_StefanS_> Riddell: UMPC things? [04:03] I don't know what that is [04:03] <_StefanS_> mmm ok [04:03] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MobileAndEmbedded [04:04] /root/3.5.7/kdelibs-3.5.7/./kdecore/netwm.cpp:337: error: too many initializers for 'const char* const [78] ' [04:04] /root/3.5.7/kdelibs-3.5.7/./kdecore/netwm.cpp:433: error: too many initializers for 'Atom* [78] ' [04:04] nasty [04:04] Riddell: yummy. [04:04] Riddell: that was with my packages, no? === Shiny wonders [04:05] with hobbsee's [04:05] Riddell: ohhhhh.... === Shiny is hobbsee === Shiny knows what that is [04:05] i'd forgotten about that [04:05] what is it? [04:05] it's the xinerama patch, which got changed === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:07] Mornin' folks. [04:09] Morning manchicken [04:09] I noticed that someone pinged me and then pasted a stack trace. That was interesting. [04:10] manchicken: yes [04:11] Because I know exactly what program and issue that's from :) [04:11] manchicken: read the last line [04:11] manchicken: system settings crash [04:11] that we were discussing a few days ago [04:12] Ah. [04:12] Is there a bug associate with that? [04:12] no idea [04:12] That stack trace tells me nothing. [04:12] heh [04:12] oh still. oh well [04:12] heh [04:13] for stuff like that, we really need bug posts. [04:13] Timezones are hard enough to work around without this massive amount of data loss. [04:13] I don't even have steps to replicate the issue. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:14] "start system settings in gutsy. watch [04:14] :P [04:17] is kde 3.5.7 already in gutsy or proposed for testing? === Hobbsee recompiles [04:18] it's not in [04:18] rbrunhuber: arts is done, kdelibs is currently compiling [04:18] Riddell: brandon's machine is fast, btw [04:18] but testers needed for deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357/ feisty main# [04:18] Riddell: how long didit take you to compile arts last time? [04:18] s/#// [04:19] is kde 3.5.7 still compatible to gutsy? [04:19] rbrunhuber: what does that mean? [04:20] Riddell : I mean if the debs are compatible to gutsy. Because the url has feisty as release. [04:21] [00:18] rbrunhuber: arts is done, kdelibs is currently compiling [04:21] rbrunhuber: so apart from that, no. [04:21] rbrunhuber: no, they're for feisty [04:23] Riddell: is 357 for feisty 100% complete? [04:24] nixternal: yes [04:24] roger, upgrading now === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Moodle..."] [04:25] Riddell : Will 3.5.7 be uploaded to gutsy or is gutsy pointing to kde 4.0? [04:25] rbrunhuber: it will be uploaded to gutsy, yes [04:27] Hobbsee : Is there a preliminary changelog already? [04:28] of upstream changelog, or of kubuntu changelog? [04:28] no, and somewhat [04:28] but the kubuntu changelog is fairly useless if you want to see the changes in 3.5.7 [04:29] Hobbsee : upstream [04:29] then no, not to my knowledge [04:31] hobbsee: thanx [04:33] Hobbsee : Seems there are no changes at all :-) http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_6to3_5_7.php [04:33] heh, yes :) === Hobbsee --> bed === _superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@116.21.125.132] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lota [n=lota@bug130.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:15] happy ubuntu people http://jriddell.org/photos/2007-05-sevilla-paul-jonathan-sarah.jpg [05:15] nixternal: how did the upgrade go? [05:16] it destoryed everything [05:16] ;) [05:16]