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PhinnFort	now I've done it myself, just to check that I did it right	12:16
carl_	nothing happened	12:16
PhinnFort	kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend kde"	12:16
PhinnFort	from - to -: -kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend kde"-	12:17
masterk	how do I find my kernel version?	12:17
PhinnFort	carl_: what did it say in the console	12:17
PhinnFort	masterk: uname .a	12:17
Cruzader	uname -r	12:17
PhinnFort	masterk: uname -a	12:17
PhinnFort	-r	12:17
Cruzader	or that	12:17
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Coldwar55	Do I have to restart the xsession for changes in the fstab table to take effect?	12:17
PhinnFort	-r just gives version;)	12:17
masterk	in console?	12:17
Cruzader	-r is just kernel version	12:17
carl_	it just went on down to another line	12:17
Cruzader	ye	12:17
Cruzader	yes	12:17
PhinnFort	Coldwar55: you should reboot, to be on the safe side	12:17
Coldwar55	Ok	12:18
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K-Ryan	Hey guys	12:18
PhinnFort	carl_: something is weird, but do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"	12:18
K-Ryan	I need help making a shortcut.	12:18
carl_	now in the configure display it says "this configureation section is already opened resize and rotate"	12:18
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PhinnFort	K-Ryan: drag, hold ctrl+shift, drop	12:18
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K-Ryan	It's more complicated than that =P	12:19
carl_	nothing happened again	12:19
masterk	hey I was wondering... is there a way to move my kubuntu setup from this hard drive to another?	12:19
K-Ryan	I need "steam.exe" to be opened, through wine.	12:19
K-Ryan	masterk: No	12:19
PhinnFort	masterk: yes	12:19
masterk	who is right?	12:19
K-Ryan	Well I mean you can't take it and move it over.	12:19
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PhinnFort	masterk: just get the package list, and your /home	12:19
K-Ryan	You could copy it over	12:19
Coldwar55	One more question, how do I add a program to start up?	12:19
lobster	K-Ryan man, you are in her alot now! try right click, make new shortcut	12:19
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PhinnFort	masterk: it should be okay to just move the hard drive too	12:20
K-Ryan	Well yeah PhinnFort but that's not the whole thing.	12:20
K-Ryan	Can you really move the whole thing?	12:20
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: this isn't windows, you can actually move the harddrive to another machine	12:20
K-Ryan	lobster: I do come in here often	12:20
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: microsoft has put in artificial restraints on that	12:20
K-Ryan	PhinnFort: I know you can move the physical hard drive, but it sounded like he wanted to move a partition from one HDD to another.	12:20
carl_	I'll brb	12:20
K-Ryan	That's possible?	12:20
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: dd?	12:21
masterk	well I'm not talking about the packages I'm talking about all the configurations I'm about to make to the kernel and such because I'm working out the glitches right now using the thinkpad wiki	12:21
K-Ryan	Hard Drive Disk	12:21
PhinnFort	masterk: you can use a copy program that preserves links and rights	12:21
lobster	PhinnFort, you can but there are issues with moving certain directories over. anything in /home should be fine though	12:21
K-Ryan	Anyways	12:21
masterk	what do you mean phinnfort?	12:21
PhinnFort	lobster: you mean /dev?	12:21
K-Ryan	I need to make a shortcut that will open a file through wine.	12:22
PhinnFort	masterk: using cp --archive, I think would do it	12:22
Coldwar55	Hmm funny, Beryl is fine on my laptop but kills my desktop	12:22
K-Ryan	Coldwar55: Video card drivers setup right?	12:22
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Coldwar55	Correct	12:22
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: right click, shortcut to program, wine as program, program to be run with path as arguments	12:22
Coldwar55	Well	12:22
masterk	what is the cp command?	12:22
Coldwar55	Laptop has an Intel chip and Desktp is ATI	12:22
K-Ryan	There's your problem.	12:22
PhinnFort	masterk: "cp --archive /source /target"	12:22
Coldwar55	So yeah :	12:22
Coldwar55	I know	12:22
lobster	phinnfort /ev isn't real, so it will rewrite itself	12:22
lobster	phinnfort ^^ /dev	12:23
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Coldwar55	Even though it's a decent ATI card it still has problem	12:23
PhinnFort	lobster: /dev is real, it's just not normal files	12:23
Coldwar55	Cause ATI is anal like that.	12:23
K-Ryan	Yeah	12:23
PhinnFort	lobster: you can make /dev files with mknod	12:23
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carl_	I'm back	12:23
masterk	ah... hmm... but how do I copy it back into the other installation when the other installation is running?	12:23
carl_	I just rebooted	12:23
ReMiiRuru	I was wondering, what good image viewers for linux are out there? Something with file browser that can access archived files would be nice...	12:23
K-Ryan	When I had an Ati I had trouble with Beryl, I'm not sure if it was before or after I had setup fglrx though.	12:23
PhinnFort	carl_: how is it?	12:24
carl_	now my screen looks uglier than ever	12:24
carl_	640X480	12:24
Cruzader	i just wish ATi would fix it so i can use AIGLX, i hate XGL	12:24
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K-Ryan	PhinnFort: I'm not exactly getting this shortcut thing.	12:24
masterk	maybe I'll just do all the config after I install	12:24
Coldwar55	Yeah well I'm not goign to go out and buy a card to replace my Sapphire X1600 Pro	12:24
Coldwar55	Just fro Beryl/XGL	12:24
PhinnFort	carl_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend noninteractive	12:24
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PhinnFort	carl_: that should try to set it up automatically	12:25
Coldwar55	Desktop is absolutely fine without it	12:25
PhinnFort	carl_: afterwards, close open programs, ctrl+alt+bspace	12:25
lobster	Phinnfort, the whole point of /dev is that it is just like normal files, but it isn't real, in that if you install the extfs on windows, there will be nothing in /dev.but since it is virtually managed by the system, it will rewrite itself.	12:25
carl_	k	12:25
carl_	will do	12:25
PhinnFort	lobster: it's written by udev	12:25
Cruzader	Coldwar55: yeah i just got it so direct-rendering was enabled, bugger XGL or all that other stuff. just so i have accel when i need it	12:25
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PhinnFort	lobster: and I believe if you pull the plug, then boot up in windows, /dev will be populated	12:25
masterk	how big should I make swap?	12:26
PhinnFort	masterk: 2x your ram, is my thumbrule	12:26
Coldwar55	has to be at least 256 MB	12:26
PhinnFort	lobster: ...or not on ubuntu, it has it as a ramdisk;)	12:26
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PhinnFort	masterk: but how much ram do you have?	12:26
Fivetwentysix	How do i restart X?	12:26
K-Ryan	ctrl+alt+backspace	12:26
Coldwar55	Typically 1 gig ram = 2 gb swap	12:26
masterk	i'll just make it a gig... not much loss on a 80 gig drive	12:27
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PhinnFort	Fivetwentysix: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart	12:27
carl_	nope, same as b4	12:27
K-Ryan	I think ctrl+alt+backspace is easier.	12:27
masterk	I have 256+128...	12:27
PhinnFort	carl_: same as when?	12:27
masterk	I'm being slow someone do that math	12:27
PhinnFort	carl_: before we started?	12:27
K-Ryan	384?	12:27
masterk	i guess?	12:27
carl_	lol worse	12:27
K-Ryan	Yeah sounds right	12:27
K-Ryan	768 swap	12:27
carl_	the setting tops out as 640X480	12:28
K-Ryan	To be exact.	12:28
masterk	but yes I have 2 sticks of ram in there and one is 256 and the other is 128	12:28
K-Ryan	You could always bump it up to 800MB to even it out if you wanted.	12:28
carl_	and second monitor is still going crazy	12:28
PhinnFort	carl_: can you manage to open xorg.conf with "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste it to rafb.net/paste?	12:28
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carl_	what would u like me 2 paste	12:28
PhinnFort	carl_: the xorg.conf file	12:28
K-Ryan	All of it	12:28
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PhinnFort	carl_: run "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and it should open	12:29
carl_	oh ok	12:29
PhinnFort	carl_: then I will post a (hopefully) working one, that you can replace the original with	12:29
carl_	awsome ok	12:29
K-Ryan	PhinnFort: For the shortcut you mean Link to application under "New" ?	12:29
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: yeah	12:29
masterk	well off to format an 80 gig	12:29
PhinnFort	:D	12:30
hydan	when i do apt-get remove konversation, i'm told that kubuntu-desktop has to be removed as well.	12:30
hydan	is this true?	12:30
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: I have a norwegian locale, so...	12:30
K-Ryan	Gotcha	12:30
PhinnFort	hydan: don't worry	12:30
PhinnFort	hydan: it's not a real package	12:30
K-Ryan	I don't get this shortcut making though.	12:30
PhinnFort	hydan: it just depends on all the default applications	12:30
K-Ryan	I don't see how to make it use wine.	12:30
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hydan	ok	12:31
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hydan	thanks PhinnFort	12:31
PhinnFort	yw	12:31
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: under command write "wine"	12:31
luca	hi - is anyone here non-english speaking and using Latex?	12:31
K-Ryan	Oh, thought I needed a file path.	12:31
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: followed by the full path to the program	12:31
K-Ryan	luca what language?	12:31
K-Ryan	PhinnFort: Oh, much easier, thanks.	12:31
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PhinnFort	K-Ryan: choose the path where it is installed	12:31
PhinnFort	the .exe, that is	12:31
Cruzader	bah phinn beat me to it	12:31
K-Ryan	Yeah, thanks.	12:31
PhinnFort	;D	12:32
PhinnFort	carl_: you can get it to just auto-detect again by (re)moving the config file	12:32
PhinnFort	carl_: "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup	12:33
PhinnFort	"	12:33
PhinnFort	and ctraltbspace	12:33
luca	K-Ryan: Italian	12:33
K-Ryan	!italian	12:33
PhinnFort	!botsnack	12:33
ubotu	Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	12:33
ubotu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	12:33
K-Ryan	Hmm, Ubotu isn't working?	12:33
K-Ryan	Ah there we go	12:33
luca	K-Ryan: some problems with accented chars, but someone on the italian channel is already helping thanks :)	12:34
K-Ryan	Oh, alright just figured I'd let you know about that if you didn't know.	12:34
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carl_	ok, I think I managed 2 do it, (kinda dificult on 640X480 :P) http://rafb.net/p/uayMng65.html	12:34
PhinnFort	carl_: understandably;)	12:34
Graham	does http://packages.ubuntu.com work for anybody here?	12:35
K-Ryan	Not me	12:36
PhinnFort	carl_: http://rafb.net/p/fZiUAS12.html	12:36
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PhinnFort	carl_: it has a maximum resolution of 1600x1200	12:36
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PhinnFort	which is what I use	12:36
carl_	that is good	12:36
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carl_	that is what I generally run	12:36
carl_	in windows :P	12:36
PhinnFort	carl_: just replace what's in the file you have opened, with what I pasted	12:37
jerware	hello	12:37
K-Ryan	Hi there	12:37
jerware	what is a light weight paint program?	12:37
jerware	linux eqivilant to ms paint	12:37
K-Ryan	Err, well Krita comes default.	12:37
PhinnFort	!info kolourpaint \| jerware	12:37
ubotu	jerware: kolourpaint: a simple paint program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1047 kB, installed size 2360 kB	12:37
jerware	i need the hex values for colors too, php/html	12:37
jerware	thanx pal	12:37
PhinnFort	jerware: kolourpaint is what you want	12:37
PhinnFort	yw	12:37
carl_	do I have 2 click save anywhere?	12:37
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PhinnFort	carl_: try ctrl+s	12:38
PhinnFort	carl_: it should warn you if you haven't saved	12:38
carl_	ok, so now I close all progs and crt alt bkspc?	12:38
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PhinnFort	carl_: yeah	12:38
PhinnFort	carl_: and pray;)	12:38
carl_	k thanks	12:38
K-Ryan	How do I resize icons?	12:38
carl_	I'll brb	12:38
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: alt+f2, kcontrol, search for icons	12:39
Coldwar55	lol linux auto corrects errors on windows drives?	12:39
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Coldwar55	upon startup	12:39
PhinnFort	yeah	12:39
Coldwar55	Funny :p	12:39
K-Ryan	No I mean resize just one.	12:39
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: how do you mean?	12:39
K-Ryan	I can't remember if I did it on Ubuntu or Kubuntu	12:39
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K-Ryan	You could change the size of icons, stretch 'em and the like.	12:39
PhinnFort	K-Ryan: sounds stupid;)	12:39
PhinnFort	sorry, but it really does;)	12:40
K-Ryan	No no, I know	12:40
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K-Ryan	But my Steam shortcut icon is a penguin.	12:40
K-Ryan	And it deserves to be bigger.	12:40
PhinnFort	:P	12:40
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PhinnFort	K-Ryan: you could ask in #kde	12:40
PhinnFort	the kdesktop and fileview and whatever-developers hang there, so if anyone knows about something like that, they do	12:40
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K-Ryan	It's not that big of a deal, just figured I'd ask if anyone knew.	12:41
lobster	K-ryan: right click, configure desktop- behovior - fili icons	12:41
utnubuk	i dont have ownership rights on my usbdisk, what command do i use to get it back?	12:41
K-Ryan	Just one icon, not all of them lobster =P	12:41
utnubuk	chmod of some kind i assume?	12:41
PhinnFort	utnubuk: yeah, sudo chmod	12:41
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PhinnFort	utnubuk: or rather chown	12:41
K-Ryan	kubuntu backwards, nice	12:41
utnubuk	:	12:41
PhinnFort	utnubuk: or kdesu konqueror, and navigate and right click, permissions	12:42
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lobster	K-ryan: you could right click on the specific icon and change it to something bigger?	12:42
utnubuk	ok ty	12:42
K-Ryan	lobster: Don't worry about it =P	12:42
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K-Ryan	It's really not that big of a deal, so I'm off to go enjoy Half-Life on Linux	12:43
PhinnFort	glhf	12:43
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K-Ryan	I pretty much severed my last tie to Windows by finally figuring Wine out =)	12:43
ahmed	guys ,, any one know a java editor that compiles and is working on ubuntu ?	12:43
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PhinnFort	Eclipse?	12:43
K-Ryan	Thanks PhinnFort, catch you guys later.	12:43
PhinnFort	!eclipse	12:43
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:43
PhinnFort	!info eclipse	12:43
ubotu	eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 124 kB, installed size 412 kB	12:43
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ahmed	eclipse is an ide	12:44
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ahmed	kinda too complex	12:44
carl_	k I'm back	12:44
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carl_	now we seem to be getting somewhere	12:44
ahmed	jgrasp ,, jeditor,,, bluej all are fine	12:44
ahmed	but any version for linux ?	12:44
carl_	where back where we started now :D	12:44
carl_	lol	12:44
PhinnFort	carl_: resolution?	12:45
PhinnFort	ahmed: try Kate?	12:45
PhinnFort	carl_: 640x480?	12:45
carl_	I'm topping out at 1280X1024 now	12:45
SlimeyPete	suely you can run bluej in linux.... it's java-based	12:46
PhinnFort	carl_: now, I see why	12:46
ahmed	Kate ?	12:46
carl_	I think that it is recogniseing the monitor wrong, i was playing with some settings to get it to go 2 1600X1200	12:46
ahmed	got a link ?	12:46
PhinnFort	carl_: have you installed the NVidia driver	12:46
PhinnFort	ahmed: you already have her	12:46
PhinnFort	ahmed: alt+f2, kate	12:46
carl_	nope it is a fresh kubuntu install	12:46
carl_	(i'm a noob) very noob when it comes 2 linux	12:46
PhinnFort	!nvidia	12:46
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	12:46
PhinnFort	carl_: I'll help you	12:47
carl_	ok	12:47
ahmed	oh ya	12:47
ahmed	but it doesnt compile	12:47
carl_	when I changed monitor settings it said 2 restart the x server or something	12:47
carl_	should I do that	12:47
PhinnFort	carl_: yes, probably	12:47
PhinnFort	carl_: but first install the nvidia drivers	12:47
carl_	ok	12:47
carl_	how do I do that?	12:48
PhinnFort	carl_: I'm not really sure how to do it, doesn't tell in the wiki	12:48
carl_	windows analogies will really help me*	12:48
PhinnFort	carl_: but go to the hardware tab of the monitor and display settings	12:48
carl_	i'm there	12:48
carl_	driver says "nv"	12:48
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PhinnFort	carl_: click on configure	12:48
carl_	k	12:49
PhinnFort	click on select	12:49
carl_	it goes to Geforce FX (generic)	12:49
PhinnFort	carl_: try "Ok"	12:50
carl_	ok	12:50
carl_	that was the same setting as b4	12:50
PhinnFort	oh...	12:50
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PhinnFort	hang on	12:50
carl_	k	12:51
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PhinnFort	I don't have an nvidia, nor do I need those darn, pesky binary drivers;)	12:51
PhinnFort	so this is kinda new to me	12:51
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PhinnFort	carl_: go to Add/Remove programs	12:51
PhinnFort	search for "nvidia"	12:52
carl_	ok i'll give it a try just a minite	12:52
PhinnFort	select the nvidia binary driver	12:52
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carl_	only thing "adept installer" comes up with is "Nvtv TV Out" and it isn't installed	12:54
carl_	oh srry it is under the system tab	12:54
PhinnFort	carl_: found it?	12:54
carl_	so uninstall	12:54
carl_	ya	12:54
PhinnFort	is it installed?	12:54
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zeee	http://magegame.ru/?rf=53617264656c6b61	12:55
zeee	http://magegame.ru/?rf=53617264656c6b61	12:55
zeee	http://magegame.ru/?rf=53617264656c6b61	12:55
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carl_	nvidia binary X.Org driver	12:55
PhinnFort	go die, spammer	12:55
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PhinnFort	carl_: is it hooked of already?	12:55
carl_	nope	12:55
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carl_	should I deselect it?	12:55
PhinnFort	hook it off, and apply	12:55
PhinnFort	no, it should be selected	12:55
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carl_	oops, it was on, now isnt :S	12:56
PhinnFort	heh	12:56
carl_	put it back on?	12:56
PhinnFort	it should be installed	12:56
PhinnFort	yeah	12:56
carl_	there are 2 there one is a "legacy" what is the diff?	12:57
Cruzader	Phinn, what do you use for an IRC client?	12:57
PhinnFort	Cruzader: Konvi	12:57
PhinnFort	carl_: Legacy is for older stuff	12:57
PhinnFort	Cruzader: you did a CTCP-VERSION?	12:57
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Cruzader	Konversation, or is there another app named Konvi i should be aware of	12:57
carl_	what is the def of "older stuff"	12:57
carl_	my card is AGP	12:57
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Cruzader	bah, ive been away from IRC too long, forget i can VERSION	12:57
PhinnFort	carl_: TNT-2 and friends	12:57
carl_	ok, really old then	12:58
carl_	lol	12:58
PhinnFort	;)	12:58
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PhinnFort	it's called legacy for a reason;)	12:58
Cruzader	lol Phinn, MS Instant relay chat?	12:58
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carl_	There was an error commiting changes. It's possible that there was a problem downloading some of the packages, or that the commit would break other packages.	12:59
PhinnFort	Cruzader: :P	12:59
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carl_	that came up when I uninstalled and installed	12:59
PhinnFort	carl_: crap...	12:59
carl_	both times	12:59
PhinnFort	carl_: close adept, open a console, and type in "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx"	12:59
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carl_	ok that did a bunch f stuff, seems there where lots of errors though	01:00
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PhinnFort	carl_: can you paste it?	01:01
MementoMori	hi all	01:01
carl_	what was the url 2 the paste site again?	01:01
KevinAlaska	Anyone on here who might be able to answer a question on how to reset a USB drive that shows up in KDE as a folder even if the drive is not connected? Even when I connect the drive it shows up as a folder but does not bring it up as a usable device, even though I see the drive listed when its plugged and "NTFS configuration" sees it and is configured. It was working last night when I shut down the computer but didn't do a unmount on it before	01:01
KevinAlaska	to my wiffes computer then reboot THEN I was able to unmount it in WindosXP safty. That didn't fix the Linux problem though. Any ideas? ;(	01:01
PhinnFort	rafb.net/paste	01:01
MementoMori	where is inittab in feisty?	01:01
PhinnFort	KevinAlaska: just try to move the folder	01:01
PhinnFort	KevinAlaska: it's probably just a "ghost", if it doesn't show up in "media:/"	01:02
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carl_	http://rafb.net/p/uk0FNJ47.html	01:02
PhinnFort	danke	01:02
PhinnFort	carl_: it seems when we brutally killed the config last time, we screwed up some stuff	01:03
carl_	lol	01:03
KevinAlaska	it did show up in meadia but the move option was not shown in Media.. I did just a control X then right click paste and it moved it from Media...	01:03
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PhinnFort	;)	01:03
carl_	no worries	01:03
KevinAlaska	Should I just try plugging it back in now? and thanks for the move idea	01:03
carl_	how do i fix?	01:03
LjL	MementoMori: nowhere	01:03
LjL	!upstart > MementoMori (MementoMori, see the private message from Ubotu)	01:03
carl_	I'm here 2 learn	01:03
PhinnFort	carl_: I'm looking into it;)	01:04
carl_	ok, thanks	01:04
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MementoMori	thank you LjL	01:04
PhinnFort	carl_: apparently, the dpkg (package program) believes that something is using /var/cache/debconf/config.dat	01:04
PhinnFort	because it didn't exit cleanly	01:04
carl_	ok	01:04
PhinnFort	carl_: try "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"	01:05
carl_	that rings a bell actually, I saw something about that pop up a while ago	01:05
PhinnFort	heh	01:05
carl_	ok I typed that in	01:05
PhinnFort	try my last command again	01:05
carl_	it just came up with another line	01:05
PhinnFort	sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx	01:06
PhinnFort	carl_: it should	01:06
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carl_	I'll paste it	01:06
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PhinnFort	carl_: does it error out again?	01:06
PhinnFort	carl_: try to add an "-f"	01:06
PhinnFort	"sudo aptitude -f install nvidia-glx"	01:07
voidmage	error - artsmessage	01:07
voidmage	Sound server fatal error:	01:07
voidmage	error while initializing the sound driver:	01:07
voidmage	device: default can't be opened for playback (operation not permitted)	01:07
carl_	http://rafb.net/p/PRvDA778.html	01:07
PhinnFort	voidmage: have you messed with your users and groups?	01:07
voidmage	last thing i did was change my hostname	01:07
PhinnFort	carl_: "sudo aptitude -f install nvidia-glx"	01:08
PhinnFort	does it change anything?	01:08
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carl_	I don't know	01:08
carl_	I think some stuff might have changed	01:08
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carl_	I just pasted the results 4 u	01:08
carl_	http://rafb.net/p/PRvDA778.html	01:08
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PhinnFort	carl_: is that with -f?	01:09
carl_	???	01:09
PhinnFort	"sudo aptitude -f install nvidia-glx"	01:09
PhinnFort	notice the -f switch I added;)	01:09
PhinnFort	aptitude -f	01:09
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carl_	ok	01:10
carl_	I just used that last one	01:10
PhinnFort	carl_: what does it say?	01:10
carl_	pasted it inot console	01:10
carl_	last line: Errors were encountered while processing: libssl0.9.7	01:11
PhinnFort	hrmm	01:11
PhinnFort	carl_: try to run "lsof \| grep 'config.dat'"	01:11
carl_	nothings seems 2 happen	01:12
PhinnFort	wait a bit	01:12
carl_	the console just gave me another line, i can type on it	01:12
PhinnFort	i know, it means it's working	01:13
lnxkde	FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module nvidia.ko uses GPL-only symbol 'para	01:13
lnxkde	virt_ops'	01:13
lnxkde	make[4] : *** [__modpost] Error 1	01:13
carl_	how long 2 I wait?	01:13
lnxkde	I get that error when tring to install my nvidia driver	01:13
lnxkde	what could it be?	01:13
PhinnFort	carl_: lsof shows all open files, while grep only let through files that match	01:13
carl_	how long do I wait*	01:13
carl_	???	01:13
PhinnFort	carl_: isn't it finished yet?	01:13
PhinnFort	carl_: ctrl+c	01:13
carl_	nothing happened	01:13
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carl_	oh ic	01:14
Shaddox	Hi everyone. How can I downloa the Kubuntu KDE power configuration/CPU scaler in Ubuntu? I desperately need to scale my CPU down and I can't get cpufreqd working, or do it in Bios.	01:14
carl_	it took away the line prefix?	01:14
PhinnFort	carl_: it just haven't given it back	01:14
carl_	oh???	01:14
PhinnFort	carl_: when you have the line prefix, it means that a shell is running, waiting for your commands	01:15
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carl_	ok, well there is no prefix, just the currsor	01:15
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PhinnFort	carl_: when you run a command, the shell gives control to that, and when the program/command returns, the shell gives a new prefix	01:15
carl_	and a >	01:15
voidmage	PhinnFort: still can't get the sound to work	01:15
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PhinnFort	voidmage: I'm sorry I cant help, but I can only help poor carl before I need to sleep :S	01:16
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carl_	lol, srry if I'm keeping u up, this isn't urgent or anything	01:16
PhinnFort	well, I can't give up;)	01:17
utnubuk	i tried kdesu konqueror but that did not allow me to set the permissions for my usbdisk. what chmod command should i try??	01:17
PhinnFort	carl_: try "fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"	01:17
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PhinnFort	utnubuk: man:chmod in konqueror	01:17
PhinnFort	*man:chown	01:17
carl_	lol, it might take some time, i think it is a "carl problem" not a "computer problem"	01:17
PhinnFort	;)	01:17
PhinnFort	carl_: I just want you to get your darn resolution	01:18
PhinnFort	:D	01:18
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Shaddox	I need help scaling my CPU like I did in Kubuntu, is it possible to download the KDE power configuration module?	01:18
PhinnFort	carl_: happy news	01:18
carl_	ok, I just put in that last line	01:18
PhinnFort	carl_: try to reboot	01:18
PhinnFort	:D	01:18
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carl_	ok	01:19
carl_	complete restart	01:19
PhinnFort	"The lock is a flock() lock which can only be held open if the process remains running"	01:19
carl_	???	01:19
PhinnFort	yeah	01:19
carl_	ok	01:19
carl_	brb	01:19
voidmage	hey about my arts error	01:19
voidmage	i think a dpkg-reconfigure artsd fixed it	01:19
voidmage	let me restart x and make sure	01:20
PhinnFort	voidmage: nice;)	01:20
OptimusRex	I'm sort of guessing my way around K-Network manager but I would like to be able to just click a button and connect to the myriad of networks I come accross each day including the work domain	01:20
OptimusRex	is there a simple way of handling networks?	01:20
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PhinnFort	OptimusRex: knetwormanager	01:20
PhinnFort	OptimusRex: it should come preinstalled	01:20
voidmage	success!	01:21
PhinnFort	return 0, then;)	01:21
OptimusRex	yes it is preinstalled but changing to the different secured networks I have around me is not easy<PhinnFort>	01:21
PhinnFort	someone tell carl I went to the bathroom, if he wonders, mkay?	01:21
voidmage	still a few minor errors	01:21
voidmage	i think dpkg-reconfigure -a SHOULD fix that	01:21
OptimusRex	the work network has a different domain and so does the one at my brother's place compared to my home network	01:22
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carl_	I'm back	01:23
PhinnFort	me too	01:23
carl_	what 2 do?	01:23
PhinnFort	carl_: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf	01:23
PhinnFort	search for where it says " driver "nv"" under "Device"	01:24
PhinnFort	replace nv with "nvidia"	01:24
voidmage	dpkg-reconfigure --frontend noninteractive -a	01:24
OptimusRex	I have a rough idea of how to set up different profiles but somehow it does not work so well as it only gives the installed network adaptors and if you want to use wireless as opo	01:24
voidmage	strange i have to run that	01:24
OptimusRex	opposed to wried then you're in trouble	01:25
carl_	ok I changed that	01:25
carl_	save and exit now?	01:25
PhinnFort	carl_: yup	01:25
carl_	what now?	01:26
PhinnFort	and then close all programsctrlaltbspace	01:26
PhinnFort	:D	01:26
carl_	ok	01:26
carl_	brb	01:26
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PhinnFort	:D	01:26
PhinnFort	he's back	01:26
carl_	I'm happy now	01:27
PhinnFort	1600?	01:27
OptimusRex	is there detailed documentation on knetwork manager that anyone knows about?	01:27
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PhinnFort	OptimusRex: try kwirelessmanager, maybe?	01:27
voidmage	there's some stuff on opensuse's page	01:27
voidmage	but nothing substantial	01:27
carl_	WOOT it worked!!!	01:27
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PhinnFort	carl_: :D:D:D	01:27
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OptimusRex	where is kwireless manager PhinnFort?	01:27
OptimusRex	or do I install it from Adept?	01:28
PhinnFort	carl_: now do a "glxinfo \| grep Direct" please	01:28
carl_	1600X1200 at 78hz	01:28
PhinnFort	!info kwireless	01:28
ubotu	Package kwireless does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	01:28
PhinnFort	!find kwireless	01:28
voidmage	!info kwireless-manager	01:28
Hobbsee	kwifimanager sucks.	01:28
ubotu	Found: kwirelessmonitor	01:28
ubotu	Package kwireless-manager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	01:28
voidmage	!info kwifimanager	01:28
Hobbsee	it's very broken	01:28
ubotu	kwifimanager: wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 234 kB, installed size 800 kB	01:28
Hobbsee	knetworkmanager tends to work better	01:28
PhinnFort	OptimusRex: well, there's a whole lot of programs	01:28
PhinnFort	I also saw some python scripts and I believe desktop applets	01:29
carl_	ok that didn't seem 2 do anything	01:29
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OptimusRex	is there one that shows the visible wireless networks?	01:29
PhinnFort	carl_: "glxinfo \| grep -i Direct"	01:29
PhinnFort	i mean	01:29
PhinnFort	OptimusRex: KNetworkManager does that here	01:29
PhinnFort	carl_: does it say yes?	01:30
carl_	yuppers	01:30
PhinnFort	:D	01:30
carl_	:D	01:30
PhinnFort	carl_: you, my friend, now even have 3D-acceleration	01:30
carl_	SUWEEET	01:30
PhinnFort	now I will retire to my quarters	01:30
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carl_	I saw the nvida spash screen on restart	01:30
PF-Away	:P	01:31
carl_	berl?	01:31
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carl_	will that work now?	01:31
voidmage	i can't wait to see the nvidia splash	01:31
voidmage	come tuesday	01:31
PF-Away	carl_: should	01:31
PF-Away	carl_: but I can't promise anything;)	01:31
PF-Away	!beryl	01:31
ubotu	Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects	01:31
voidmage	this is another nifty feature	01:31
carl_	thanks allot PhinnFort!!!	01:32
PF-Away	carl_: it should be just a matter of adding the repositories/installing in Adept, and running	01:32
voidmage	konqueror: ctrl+e	01:32
PF-Away	you're very welcome;)	01:32
carl_	ok i added previously but couldn't get it 2 work	01:32
voidmage	run one command working out of your current directory	01:32
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luca	carl_ if you add: Option NoLogo true you will see the logo no more :D	01:32
carl_	I like the logo :P	01:32
luca	oh ok ;)	01:32
OptimusRex	PhinnFort for some reason mine does not show the available networks. It did initially but all that is gone and i don't know how to turn it on	01:32
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voidmage	oh that's why the windows all move down when i hide kicker	01:33
voidmage	the're docked to kicker	01:33
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SlimeyPete	I can still connect to them manually, though	01:34
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voidmage	or they're not docked to the top	01:35
voidmage	interesting	01:35
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OptimusRex	I have the same problem SlimeyPete	01:35
jerware	hi im having a web browser issue. Konquoror	01:36
OptimusRex	does anyone know how to turn on the display for available networks so as to enable one to choose what to connect to ?	01:36
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jerware	what plug-in is needed for you tube?	01:36
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masterk	flash	01:36
jerware	OptimusRex: try netstat	01:36
SlimeyPete	OptimusRex: mine seemed to lose them after we switched the network to WPA and I tried to connect (it didn't work, and we switched back to WEP)	01:36
jerware	if there are connections you dont want, kill the PID	01:36
SlimeyPete	since then, I've not been able to see any networks	01:37
masterk	jerware: flash media player for whichever browser you are using	01:37
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masterk	what package do I need to install my wifi card using windows drivers?	01:39
masterk	I forget	01:39
BlindSIde	ndiswrapper	01:39
masterk	thx	01:39
OptimusRex	thanks jereware. Is there a way of switching the display so tha I don't have to netstat all the time? By the way, I find that Konqueror does not show my gmail well so I installed mozilla firefox	01:39
jerware	can kaffiene rip audio tracks?	01:41
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OptimusRex	heeeeeeeeeeeeelp! Anyone know how to turn the display for available networks on?	01:43
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sl00	Hi. When I run the Adept Updater or Adept MAnager it says the database is locked even tho I just booted up. How do I fix this?	01:44
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carl_	can someone help me with beryl? I just started it up and the top bar on my windows vanished! So I cannnot move the windows around on my screen	01:44
phpcode	How to get a valid-ident on irc?	01:45
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hydan	i've a few questions :)	01:47
hydan	in gnome there's startup sessions, is there anything like that in kde?	01:47
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hydan	some program that allows you to specify which programs run on startup	01:48
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masterk_	ugh... I got disconnected and it think's I'm still logged on as masterk can someone tell me how to to tell the server that i just reconnected	01:49
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phpcode	masterk_: it shold disconnect soon :-)	01:51
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masterk_	kk thanks	01:51
masterk_	hey does anyone know what kind of programming would be good for me to get into?	01:51
masterk_	I only know HTML, CSS, and BASIC	01:52
masterk_	I want to learn programming and network administration so I can get jobs doing those	01:52
RawSewage	Python maybe	01:53
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masterk_	umm... when I open up adept it says Su returned with an error.	01:54
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utnubuk	has anybody ran into problems with their sound? i reinstalled edgy and now i can't hear anything :(	01:55
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dkkong	Current virtual machine	01:56
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hendaus	hiya	01:56
dkkong	Is there any way I can use my Lexmark's Scanner Feature under Linux? I see it listed under lsusb, but nothing will work with it software wise.	01:56
hendaus	somebody help me please!	01:57
cWolfe	dkkong, a long time ago i had a lexmark all in one scanner/printer	01:57
cWolfe	i never got the scanner working	01:57
cWolfe	things may have chnaged	01:57
dkkong	Did the printer ever work on it either?	01:57
cWolfe	dont remember	01:58
dkkong	USB?	01:58
cWolfe	yes	01:58
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cWolfe	if i recall, it shows up as having a builtin usb hub inside of it	01:58
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dkkong	Same here :/	01:58
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dkkong	It does.. and it even shows up as Lexmark International under lsusb.	01:59
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hendaus	can anyone help me how to open my second hard disk please!	01:59
cWolfe	hendaus, a torx t8 should work	01:59
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hendaus	cWolfe: i am newbie friend,	02:00
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cWolfe	im just messing with you	02:00
dkkong	sudo mount /dev/yourharddisc here /whereyouwantitmounted	02:00
cWolfe	hendaus, using fiesty?	02:01
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hendaus	cWolfe: how ca i know if fiesty?	02:01
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cWolfe	uname -a	02:01
hendaus	cWolfe: Linux hendaus 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux	02:02
cWolfe	me thinks that is edgy	02:02
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dkkong	Correct you are	02:03
cWolfe	look for hda or hdb in /dev/	02:03
hendaus	cWolfe: i have hda1 , but i want hdb1	02:04
dkkong	fdisk -l should show you all drives connected?	02:04
cWolfe	does hdb exist?	02:04
hendaus	yes but cannot open	02:04
OlliK	Hi, does anyone here have a Windows XP or 2000?	02:05
dkkong	I think that's a hangable offense around here...	02:05
cWolfe	i have windows at work	02:05
hendaus	OlliK: use kubuntu better than windows	02:05
OlliK	I need one file from there, it's called msgsm32.acm and it's in system32-folder...	02:05
OlliK	hendaus: I'm using kubuntu	02:05
OlliK	OlliK: If I had windows, I would copy the file by myself :)	02:06
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hendaus	cWolfe: how can i open the sourcelist , ?	02:06
OlliK	I'm trying to get Ventrilo working via Wine, but I need that file in order to make the GSM-codec to work	02:06
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OlliK	So if anyone here has Windows 2000 or XP, I would appreciate a lot if someone could send me the file msgsm32.acm which is in system32-folder..	02:07
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hendaus	anyone knows how to open the sourceslist thanx	02:08
OlliK	np I got it already	02:08
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hendaus	helpers, can anyone help	02:11
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carl_	any beryl experts here?	02:12
hendaus	hiya	02:13
hendaus	somebody help me please!	02:13
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BlindSIde	hry carl_ whats wrong with beryl?	02:13
carl_	I'm having trouble with beryl killing my window frames	02:13
carl_	so then I can't resize or move windows	02:13
BlindSIde	when you resize?	02:13
BlindSIde	i got taht problem when i resized	02:13
carl_	they just disapear alltogether	02:14
BlindSIde	so i went ot the settings	02:14
BlindSIde	and i changed the mode from normal to scale	02:14
carl_	when beryl is activated	02:14
BlindSIde	change the resize mode	02:14
BlindSIde	to scale	02:14
BlindSIde	and itll be sweet	02:14
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BlindSIde	sorry i mean stretch	02:15
BlindSIde	Window Management - Resize Window	02:15
BlindSIde	Behaviour	02:15
carl_	ok	02:15
BlindSIde	Resize Display Mode - Set that to stretch	02:15
carl_	nope didn't work	02:16
BlindSIde	it didnt?	02:16
BlindSIde	still freezes?	02:16
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carl_	as soon as as I turn on beryl my window borders just vanish	02:16
BlindSIde	hmm	02:16
BlindSIde	thats a different problem	02:16
BlindSIde	any errors in console?	02:16
carl_	I hav e2 go back 2 standard KDE to get them 2 come back	02:16
dkkong	Is there any way I can use my Lexmark's Scanner Feature under Linux? I see it listed under lsusb, but nothing will work with it software wise.	02:17
BlindSIde	what happens if you set something other than emerald as window decorator?	02:17
carl_	well, I was reading some help files (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl?highlight=%28beryl%29) and I tried 2 fix using these, but didn't work	02:17
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luca	hi everyone again	02:21
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luca	does anyone know how to use kbibtex effectively? which means, being able to add the bibliography INTO the main tex file :)	02:21
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hendaus	can anyone help me how to open my second hd?	02:32
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hendaus	dkkong: how can i open sources.list?	02:33
dkkong	sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list	02:34
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hendaus	dkkong: thanks friend, so i have dapper	02:35
dkkong	I think edgy, but not sure.	02:35
dkkong	DOes it say dapper in the sources list?	02:35
hendaus	dkkong: i have on my desktop the second hd, i open it and cannot show me the files	02:35
dkkong	What filesystem is it?	02:36
hendaus	dkkong: yes dapper	02:36
dkkong	Then yeah, you're in dapper. Do you know what filesystem is on the hard drive?	02:36
khirr	i've updated amsn , and i need tsl files, how can i do it? is there sme command for console to can update that?	02:36
hendaus	dkkong: fat32	02:36
dkkong	You should be able to direct mount it then. Create a folder on your desktop called mount	02:37
hendaus	dkkong: ok then	02:38
dkkong	now do you know the name of the drive? (ie /dev/hdb1 ,etc?)	02:38
hendaus	yes hdb1	02:39
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dkkong	then go to a console and type sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home/yourusername/Desktop/mount	02:39
dkkong	replace yourusername with whatever you use to login	02:39
hendaus	ok	02:40
jerware	hi	02:40
chad7	i accidentally uninstalled gdm when uninstalling gnomekeys, how do set kdm as the default [whatever this is called]	02:40
jerware	how can i get kolorpaint to return the hex value for a color in the picture?	02:40
hendaus	dkkong: bash: /dev/hdb1: Permission denied	02:40
dkkong	sudo umount -a	02:40
dkkong	then try again	02:40
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hendaus	dkkong: it says device is busy	02:41
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hendaus	dkkong: and i try another time and got the same thing denied	02:42
dkkong	Hmm... then it must think it has it mounted somewhere else	02:42
kaboom	i've searched google, but to no avail.	02:42
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hendaus	dkkong: i have two hd, one is for kubuntu and the other for files	02:42
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dkkong	Okay, let's try this. Do sudo kate /etc/fstab and tell me what it says next to hdb1	02:43
hakaisou	i have a small question about microphones over alsa	02:44
hakaisou	specifically, is there an option to boost the volume?	02:44
hendaus	dkkong: /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0	02:44
crimsun	hakaisou: if your driver exposes a 'Mic Boost*' element, yes.	02:44
hendaus	opps	02:44
hakaisou	crud.....	02:45
hakaisou	it doesn't......	02:45
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kubuntu	Hello	02:45
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crimsun	hakaisou: does `amixer' confirm that?	02:45
dkkong	That's hda, but there's no hdb1 in there?	02:45
kubuntu	How do I remake my grub stage files ?	02:45
hendaus	dkkong: i cant see hdb1?	02:45
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kubuntu	I think that they are corrupt	02:45
dkkong	Not even in fstab?	02:45
masterk	why doesn't it show the pages in konqueror as they are loading instead of after everything for the page has been loaded?	02:46
hendaus	dkkong: no	02:46
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kubuntu	!grub	02:46
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	02:46
kubuntu	Can someone help with a grub 1.5 loading non error?	02:47
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hakaisou	i'm 95% sure that there is no option for it	02:47
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masterk	what is a good chat program that can use all known protocols? I can't use GAIM because it freezes when I load msn	02:48
hakaisou	kopete is good	02:48
hakaisou	it's bundled with kubuntu	02:48
kubuntu	hakaisou: Sorry?	02:49
masterk	but when I use kopete it won't let me have aim chat rooms	02:49
kubuntu	oh wait ;)	02:49
masterk	or yahoo chat rooms	02:49
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kubuntu	braid dead name to have :)	02:49
hakaisou	which is why I use Gaim shrug	02:49
hakaisou	sorry, i'm kinda new to kubuntu myself	02:49
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masterk	yeah but for some odd reason Gaim freezes upon connection to msn	02:50
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khirr	what's the command to delete one file?	02:50
hakaisou	ok that sounds familiar	02:50
hendaus	somebody help me please!	02:50
hakaisou	get the latest version via apt-get masterk	02:50
hakaisou	sudo apt-get install gaim	02:50
RawSewage	hendaus, did you try rebooting	02:51
hendaus	RawSewage: no	02:51
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RawSewage	try that first	02:51
hendaus	ok	02:52
hendaus	brb	02:52
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kubuntu	Any one have any idea how to recreate stage files for grub?	02:52
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masterk	which protocol is for google on gaim?	02:55
kubuntu	jabber	02:56
masterk	server? O.o	02:56
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hendaus	back	02:56
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kubuntu	talk.google.com	02:56
hendaus	RawSewage: when i open the hd , mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab	02:56
luca	ah probably something wrong with those files	02:57
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luca	myself I'd recommend using automatix to make it do the harsh work ;)	02:58
K-Ryan	Hey guys when I open a music file/playlist in Amarok it adds on to the current playlist instead of opening just that single file or playlist, how do I fix it?	02:58
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RawSewage	hendaus, I dont know	03:00
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hendaus	ok thanx	03:00
masterk	it said it couldn't connect to the server for google talk using gaim	03:01
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masterk	am I supposed to leave resourse as Gaim	03:02
kubuntu	masterk: Make that whatever you like	03:02
masterk	well it says it couldn't connect kubuntu	03:03
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kubuntu	Does anyone know how to recreate stage files in grub/	03:03
kubuntu	masterk: You checked use TLS ?	03:03
masterk	yes	03:03
kubuntu	and changed teh server to talk.google.com ?	03:04
masterk	yes	03:04
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kubuntu	http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073	03:05
sl00	Hi. When I run the Adept Updater or Adept MAnager it says the database is locked even tho I just booted up. How do I fix this?	03:06
kubuntu	!adept crash fix	03:06
ubotu	If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	03:06
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sl00	Thanks	03:08
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brian_	hello	03:17
brian_	chatsdead	03:18
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brian_	super dead	03:19
kubuntu	:-)	03:20
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kubuntu	brian_: You have a question?	03:21
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brian_	wish i knew why my wifi wasnt reliable	03:21
kubuntu	What do you mean?	03:22
brian_	it wont connect when it starts up i have to toy with it for about half hour before it works	03:22
brian_	worked perfect with ubuntu...then i switched to kubuntu and now its unreliable	03:22
Zeelot	hello guys	03:24
brian_	hey	03:24
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brian_	have a question zeelot	03:26
Zeelot	yes just a sec =P	03:26
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Zeelot	I have kubuntu feisty installed and it seems slowish compared to windows when running apps, video smoothness, etc...I know linux is alot easier to customize and optimize...so is there anything I can do for this?	03:27
Zeelot	or should I expect linux+GUI candy to always be slowish?	03:28
fivetwentysix	What's easier to learn? C or C++, or what wouldyou recommend?	03:28
Zeelot	both? =P	03:28
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Alonea	anyone manage to get sound working in PySol?	03:29
Zeelot	once you know C, C++ isn't too hard to pickup (once you know any programming language all the others are alot easier to pick up)	03:29
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brian_	whats pysol	03:29
Zeelot	most of the time atleast	03:29
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K-Ryan	Wow the chat is pretty quiet	03:31
brian_	yah	03:31
Zeelot	brian_: no answer to my q? =(	03:31
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sushubh	hey people!	03:32
K-Ryan	Zeelot what are you system specs?	03:32
fivetwentysix	Zeelot i know php but i think c++ is just insane to learn	03:32
Zeelot	does compiling your own kernel help performance? and is it fairly easy?	03:32
brian_	whats slow zeelot	03:32
K-Ryan	Hey sushubh!	03:32
sushubh	i love ubuntu :D	03:32
K-Ryan	Zeelot, no and no.	03:32
Alonea	brian_: PySol is a solitaire game suite written in Python.	03:32
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Zeelot	Sysinfo for 'zeelot-workstation': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ at 2000 MHz (4023 bogomips), HD: 973/1522GB, RAM: 1975/2027MB, 131 proc's, 1.23d up	03:32
brian_	i just found that	03:32
sushubh	1522GB :o	03:33
Zeelot	I have other systems though with lower specs that I would like to speed up	03:33
Zeelot	yea =P	03:33
K-Ryan	I'm thinking 973 are full?	03:33
sushubh	1.5 TB :O	03:33
sushubh	o m f g	03:33
K-Ryan	If I had that much space I wouldn't be able to fill it	03:33
Zeelot	i have more drives but they are IDE and dont feel like putting them in	03:33
K-Ryan	I haven't filled my 160GB yet...	03:33
Alonea	anyway. There is a PySol sound server thing and a pack of music and sounds, but when I go to turn on sound in the program, the sound box is greyed out	03:33
K-Ryan	Anyway...	03:33
K-Ryan	Any programs in particular that slow it down?	03:34
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Zeelot	no everything is just slowish	03:34
Zeelot	any program takes long to start	03:34
fivetwentysix	What do i install if i havea 7600 GT geforce card?	03:34
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K-Ryan	!nvidia	03:34
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	03:34
Zeelot	even file browsers and whatnot	03:34
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fivetwentysix	I installed a driver and had to reinstall ubuntu	03:34
fivetwentysix	lol	03:34
tsukasa	sorry for a stupid question, i am very new to linux (wabout 1 week today) and i am trying to find something better than wine, i hear crossover, but it still gives me problems.. any ideas for something better? or maybe a channel/server i can connect to that would help?	03:34
K-Ryan	fivetwentysix you can start there but it's not very descriptive	03:34
K-Ryan	tsukasa this is a good channel for it	03:35
tsukasa	okay good to know	03:35
Zeelot	if I drag windows I can see them lag, bunch of little annoying things	03:35
K-Ryan	Zeelot, was it always like that?	03:35
Zeelot	any linux I try yes	03:35
Zeelot	gnome and kde atleast	03:35
K-Ryan	My system specs are a good half of yours and I don't get that.	03:35
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K-Ryan	So I don't know if you would be able to optimize that	03:36
Zeelot	hmm	03:36
K-Ryan	But you said it works in Windows..	03:36
Zeelot	even fresh installs?	03:36
K-Ryan	Have you tried it?	03:36
Zeelot	tried what	03:36
K-Ryan	Fresh install	03:36
Zeelot	Im comparing performance windows vs linux+GUI	03:36
Zeelot	yes this is like a few days old	03:36
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Zeelot	out of the box its alot slower than windows	03:36
K-Ryan	And it's been that way since the install...	03:36
K-Ryan	What about when you run the Live CD?	03:37
Zeelot	nvidia drivers helped with the gi stuff	03:37
Zeelot	same yea	03:37
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K-Ryan	Then it's not an install thing.	03:37
K-Ryan	Unless the CD's you got/burned are erroneous.	03:37
Zeelot	any Linux distro is like this	03:37
K-Ryan	Sounds like a hardware thing.	03:38
Zeelot	windows is just alot faster	03:38
bUzz-iN	i"m having problems with, system sound & audio programs ?	03:38
Zeelot	multiple computers	03:38
bUzz-iN	running in Kubuntu	03:38
K-Ryan	bUzz-iN: Are you having trouble? You were asking a question =P	03:38
bUzz-iN	i was	03:38
K-Ryan	Yes you put a "?" at the end, regardless	03:38
bUzz-iN	ummm, ok	03:39
K-Ryan	What kind of problem? Sound in general, or playing mp3 files and the like?	03:39
bUzz-iN	is a a driver i'm missing etc ?	03:39
bUzz-iN	system sound etc yes	03:39
K-Ryan	Zeelot: stick around and ask around. I'm not sure about what you could do to fix that and I'm out of ideas. Good luck though	03:39
Zeelot	alright	03:40
K-Ryan	bUzz-iN: You don't hear any sounds, right?	03:40
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bUzz-iN	true	03:40
Zeelot	I'll ask again tomorrow heh	03:40
K-Ryan	Hmm	03:40
bUzz-iN	nothing	03:40
K-Ryan	It's worth a shot Zeelot	03:40
K-Ryan	!audio	03:40
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	03:40
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Zeelot	I need someone that uses windows and linux	03:40
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K-Ryan	=P	03:40
Zeelot	>_<	03:40
Zeelot	dual boot?	03:40
K-Ryan	Kubuntu + XP Home Edition	03:40
Zeelot	you don't think xp is just more responsive?	03:41
K-Ryan	Nah	03:41
K-Ryan	bUzz-iN: Try the first thing that ubotu said, if that doesn't work check the links.	03:41
fivetwentysix	I use xp and kubuntu	03:42
Zeelot	takes me 3-4 seconds to open konqueror to /home	03:42
K-Ryan	Takes me 1-2	03:42
bUzz-iN	yes, i have & i'll view those links thanks i hope that works	03:42
fivetwentysix	takes me .8	03:42
masterk	how do I get a decoder for wma files for amarok?	03:42
Zeelot	hmm	03:42
K-Ryan	If not come back here bUzz-iN and ask.	03:42
Zeelot	wtf then	03:42
fivetwentysix	AMD 64 3000 2gb ram	03:42
bUzz-iN	i wi;ll thank you	03:42
fivetwentysix	pci express 7600gt	03:42
K-Ryan	Yeah, rub it in fivetwentysix	03:43
Zeelot	64bit kubuntu?	03:43
fivetwentysix	hmm my pc is like $500 or less now	03:43
K-Ryan	Sitting here on a 6 year old Pentium 4, had to upgrade to 512 RAM...	03:43
K-Ryan	I'm probably going to save my money up for a new computer though.	03:43
masterk	so I have a pentium 3 thinkpad	03:43
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fivetwentysix	OK i installed the driver	03:44
bUzz-iN	thx's, Ubotu & K-Ryan	03:44
fivetwentysix	for nvidia	03:44
fivetwentysix	I pray this works	03:44
K-Ryan	Do you think I'd be able to get them to not include Vista so I could save the 100-200 bucks?	03:44
fivetwentysix	cuz if it doesn't ima have to reinstall ubuntu again loool	03:44
masterk	!amarok decoder	03:44
K-Ryan	bUzz-iN: Ubotu is an information bot	03:44
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok decoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:44
fivetwentysix	or can is there a disable command?	03:44
fivetwentysix	sudo nvidia-glx-config enable	03:44
tsukasa	K-ryan: been haveing a issue with wine, mostly with a game, starcraft. it installs and all that, but i need to run it in a window, if it opens in fullscreen it pretty much gets croped off with my task bars, also no sound. winehq says it workes perfect on the other hand.. useing kubuntu btw	03:44
bUzz-iN	sweet	03:44
fivetwentysix	if the driver doesn't work can i do sudo nvidia-glx-config disable	03:44
fivetwentysix	?	03:44
bUzz-iN	also i have a nvidia 8800 series card so maybe that's the problem	03:45
bUzz-iN	as i still can't find a driver for that	03:45
tsukasa	it does the same thing useing crossover	03:45
K-Ryan	tsukasa: I have yet to install/play starcraft but I'll do that maybe...	03:45
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Zeelot	sudo nvidia-glx-config enable didnt work for me I had to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	03:45
fivetwentysix	buzz-in nvidia just released the drivers for it	03:45
K-Ryan	tsukasa I don't know about running it windowed, however you should be able to optimize it to not get cut off.	03:45
fivetwentysix	well according to their website	03:45
bUzz-iN	damn really where at ?	03:45
bUzz-iN	nvidia,com ?	03:45
K-Ryan	Yeah	03:46
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bUzz-iN	wooo-ho	03:46
tsukasa	K-Ryan: ah okay, thanks though. how do i go about doing that, or atleast start doing that?	03:46
K-Ryan	Well it's http://www.amd.nvidia.com	03:46
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K-Ryan	I'm pretty sure	03:46
bUzz-iN	i'll go check that out thx :0	03:46
fivetwentysix	http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html	03:46
fivetwentysix	I see 8800 there	03:46
Zeelot	amd is ati	03:46
K-Ryan	Oh, mixed it up.	03:46
K-Ryan	Ignore my last link then =)	03:46
Zeelot	yup	03:46
K-Ryan	tsukasa: To be honest I'm not sure, I'm new to Wine myself.	03:46
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K-Ryan	However, stick around in the channel I'm sure someone has had your problem and/or knows how to fix it.	03:47
tsukasa	K-Ryan: aah okay, thanks anyways. I'll do that	03:47
fivetwentysix	OK here it goes	03:47
fivetwentysix	restarting X	03:47
K-Ryan	tsukasa: Sorry I couldn't help more =P	03:47
K-Ryan	I'll install Starcraft now though to see if it happens to me too.	03:47
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: Hell it's about time	03:48
tsukasa	K-Ryan: its all good :p i gotta learn somehow. i compleatly got ride of windows and have been teaching myself kubuntu sense... no turning back now.	03:48
K-Ryan	DaSkreech: I'm not as big of a Starcraft player as I was	03:48
bUzz-iN	has anyone here been able to play, "openarena" ?	03:48
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K-Ryan	The free version of quake.	03:49
tsukasa	I'm not going to lie though, i'm getting a seperat install fro windows just for starcraft 2 :p	03:49
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: Pulling the heck out of gametrailers.com now for all the new gameplay movies	03:49
K-Ryan	I've been trying to get my quake working but I haven't really been trying.	03:49
K-Ryan	I heard there are installers for quake. Not sure if it would work with openarena, loki installers I think.	03:49
bUzz-iN	i think the new quake4 has a linux disc	03:50
K-Ryan	Here	03:50
K-Ryan	!quake	03:50
ubotu	Quake runs natively under Ubuntu - See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details	03:50
K-Ryan	It does =P	03:50
bUzz-iN	no no , the open souse game, "openarena"	03:50
K-Ryan	tsukasa: Starcraft 2?	03:50
bUzz-iN	r*	03:50
Zeelot	wow	03:50
Alonea	i would love to run Quake 4 on here...but I have ati card and I can't run anything but my gl screensavers.	03:50
K-Ryan	bUzz-iN: Sorry, I've only heard of the free version of quake.	03:50
Zeelot	I didn't think any of the new games ran in linux	03:50
bUzz-iN	hmmmm	03:51
tsukasa	K-ryan: yea, they just annonced it after 10 years sense the first one. www.blizzard.com	03:51
K-Ryan	Are you kidding me?	03:51
K-Ryan	That's so awesome	03:51
tsukasa	no, thats the same thing i asked my friend	03:51
tsukasa	they WERE going to release a gameplay video today	03:51
K-Ryan	Yeah, "were" figures	03:51
Zeelot	bah so no diablo 3 yet =(	03:51
bUzz-iN	? does anyone know if "doom3" can be played in Linux	03:52
GWillakers	anyone here use GTKPOD? I'm having trouble organizing my playlists.	03:52
K-Ryan	Don't count your chickens though	03:52
K-Ryan	Or whatever the saying is	03:52
Zeelot	sc2 will be just as fun though...as long as its not another damn warcraft I'm happy	03:52
bUzz-iN	i have heard that id games runn in Linux ?	03:52
K-Ryan	Did Starcraft: Ghost ever get released?	03:52
tsukasa	no, they scraped that one	03:52
K-Ryan	bUzz-iN: The Quakes do, I don't know about Doom though	03:52
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K-Ryan	tsukasa: Oh they finally did? It looked like it would of been fun...	03:52
bUzz-iN	thats cool i'd love to runn quake with out a codewever etc here .	03:53
K-Ryan	Still think it's fixed view?	03:53
bUzz-iN	or wine	03:53
brian_	back	03:53
tsukasa	K-Ryan: hey scghost got scraped a long time ago, almost a year. but apparently sc2 has been in the works sense the start of WoW.	03:53
K-Ryan	Welcome back	03:53
K-Ryan	tsukasa: I never really followed it, I saw it here and there and then I just never saw it again.	03:53
brian_	got linux figured out now if i could get my winserver fixed	03:54
bUzz-iN	ok, i'm off to read up on my system sound issues, late	03:54
K-Ryan	Yeah it's definitely not fixed camera, you can tell by the angles in the screen shots.	03:54
K-Ryan	Good luck bUzz-iN	03:54
bUzz-iN	thx-	03:54
tsukasa	K-Ryan: i followed it for a small bit, i had been playing starcraft sense day one, one of my fav games ever. so i was pretty pissed when they scraped ghost. but now i am glade they scraped it.	03:55
K-Ryan	tsukasa: It just finished installing.	03:55
tsukasa	K-ryan: sweet, good luck cause it would log me out and restart me the first time i installed.	03:56
K-Ryan	tsukasa: I'm going to try it out I'll brb in a few. On a side note, I was a late entry to Starcraft. But it's definitely one of the greatest games ever made.	03:56
K-Ryan	Alright, here I go	03:56
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K-Ryan	Yeah umm, I don't think I'd be able to play on Battlenet.	03:58
tsukasa	bnet is said to not be compatable with linux	03:58
K-Ryan	I tried to update it, but the archive couldn't be opened so I'm assuming it has to be done manually somehow and I can't be bothered to do that.	03:58
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tsukasa	go to the website and dl the update patchs	03:59
K-Ryan	Compatable with Linux probably not, but it's in Wine so..	03:59
K-Ryan	I have to go in a minute so tomorrow.	03:59
K-Ryan	But the main menu was a tad laggy.	03:59
K-Ryan	So I'm curious how it's going to play out.	03:59
K-Ryan	But I'm out for the night, bye guys.	03:59
K-Ryan	May all your problems be solved ;)	04:00
tsukasa	i have it in wine and crossover, neither one worked properly for me, lags like all hell, no sound and croped screen.	04:00
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Alonea	i stopped trying to get games to work in linux on wine...too frustrating.	04:01
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Lilacor	does anyone know how to get nvidia drivers to save its resolution?	04:01
geoff__	eh...	04:02
tsukasa	i cant remember, but i do know i did a search on it in google, fround some repositories for nvidia, now they work perfectly, you will know it works when you are booting up and a nvidia splash shows up at least for me	04:02
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Lilacor	my nvidia drivers aren't broken.. I'm using the nvidia driver right now but I have to change the resolution everytime I reboot	04:02
tsukasa	wow that weird	04:03
tsukasa	i had problems when the driver was the nv drivers that came with kubu	04:04
trix`G	quick question, I have a *.zix archive (that's ziX not zip) that I need to extract, but when searching for a program or utility to extract it all I can find is winzix, which is a windows program... anyone know a linux utility that can extract .zix files?	04:04
dwidmann	lilacor: when you run nvidia-settings (presuming you do so), do you run it as root (ie: with kdesu or sudo), or without, also, do you just click apply, or dod you click save settings to file or whatnot	04:04
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asdf	im about to smash konversation	04:04
Lilacor	I have run it under a root shell and I apply the settings and then try to save it to my xorg.conf	04:05
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Lilacor	and it won't save...	04:05
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dwidmann	It won't? Well, that explains why you have to redo it every time	04:05
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Lilacor	dwidmann: yes but the reason why it won't save escapes me	04:06
dwidmann	Does it say why it won't save Lilacor?	04:06
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dwidmann	Lilacor: hit alt+f2 and type in "kdesu nvidia-settings"	04:06
dwidmann	(just-in-case)	04:07
trix`G	worst case scenario just edit the xorg config file manually and set your preferred resolution as default	04:07
geoff__	so, why can i not log in as root on kubuntu?	04:07
geoff__	what's up with that?	04:07
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geoff__	it never prompted to set the root password.	04:07
geoff__	i can't even boot into runlevel 1	04:07
geoff__	to change it.	04:07
Lilacor	geoff__: there is no root	04:07
geoff__	wtf	04:07
dwidmann	geoff__: root account is locked,	04:07
geoff__	heh	04:07
geoff__	that's not cool	04:07
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Hirvinen	!root \| geoff__	04:07
ubotu	geoff__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	04:07
dwidmann	geoff__: sudo is used _in stead_ of su	04:08
trix`G	geoff: three reasons, one: completely unnecessary, two: dangerous, and three: you still can, just "sudo /bin/bash" in console	04:08
geoff__	dude...	04:08
Lilacor	dwidmann: it says....ERROR: Failed to generate an X config file!	04:08
Lilacor	dwidmann: among many other things	04:08
geoff__	i work in a datacenter for a server hosting company	04:08
geoff__	i build and set up servers	04:08
geoff__	i know what sudo is	04:08
dwidmann	Lilacor: can you pastebin your xorg.conf file, oh, and the error message too	04:08
trix`G	so "sudo /bin/bash" and poof you are root	04:08
geoff__	trixG	04:08
hitmanWilly	geoff__: if you really want, it is possible to enable the root acct	04:08
dwidmann	trix`G: "sudo -s" ??	04:08
Lilacor	geoff__: or just 'sudo -s'	04:08
Sleepy_Coder	Er....	04:08
geoff__	when i booted the kernel i set init=/bin/sh	04:08
geoff__	to change it	04:08
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geoff__	and it's "refused"	04:09
Sleepy_Coder	su ftw. :P	04:09
trix`G	yeah taht works too	04:09
geoff__	which is stupid	04:09
DaSkreech	What's the deal with the flash plugin?	04:09
dwidmann	DaSkreech: free food on tuesdays, duh.	04:09
geoff__	eh, i'll just go back to freebsd	04:09
geoff__	heh	04:09
BWOlf85	daskreech what do u mean	04:09
DaSkreech	freefood?	04:09
trix`G	geoff: then re-enable the root account and set the password with "passwd"	04:09
trix`G	it's east	04:09
dwidmann	geoff__: the setup isn't hard to change	04:09
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Sleepy_Coder	[19:09:08] <DaSkreech> What's the deal with the flash plugin? <--wishing they had a 64 bit version also?	04:09
Alonea	ok, I downloaded a source file and I don't get how to install this one...there is no make file. Just a bunch of python files. How do I install it?	04:09
trix`G	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	04:09
trix`G	that tells you how	04:09
geoff__	i'm checking out ubuntu	04:09
geoff__	or kubuntu	04:09
DaSkreech	Sleepy_Coder: Nope	04:10
Lilacor	wow, I wish they had a x64 version also	04:10
BWOlf85	i like kubuntu better	04:10
geoff__	and i wasn't happy with the no root login	04:10
dwidmann	"sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"	04:10
DaSkreech	Sleepy_Coder: Jsut an Open source one	04:10
tsukasa	woo to Kubu	04:10
Sleepy_Coder	hehehe	04:10
DaSkreech	Hi Alonea	04:10
BWOlf85	KDE is much more fun	04:10
Alonea	DaSkreech: hey. how are ya?	04:10
Sleepy_Coder	The only complaints I've heard is that people are using the 32 bit version because they don't have one for their dual processors.	04:10
trix`G	anyone know how to extract a *.zix archive in linux? (zix, not zip)	04:10
hitmanWilly	Alonea: python is interperted lang, just python <name of main file>	04:10
geoff__	trixG re-enable the root account?	04:10
geoff__	heh	04:10
geoff__	where? how?	04:10
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Alonea	hitmanWilly: ok, will try that	04:10
geoff__	i don't see anything like that	04:10
DaSkreech	Alonea: terrible how are you ?	04:10
geoff__	so tell me	04:10
dwidmann	geoff__: the last thing I said will do it	04:11
trix`G	geoff: "sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"	04:11
tsukasa	if .zix is a windows only, try installing that into wine and then opening the formate with that.	04:11
trix`G	which is what dwidmann said	04:11
hitmanWilly	geoff__: set a root passwd is all you need to do	04:11
dwidmann	yes, that	04:11
tsukasa	if wine will work that is...	04:11
geoff__	dwidmann	04:11
Jucato	geoff__: there's a guide in that RootSudo page	04:11
geoff__	i didn't see what you said.	04:11
bUzz-iN	ok, how do i become "root' in console to dl nvidia driver ??	04:11
bUzz-iN	shell	04:11
Lilacor	bUzz-iN: 'sudo -s'	04:11
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bUzz-iN	nvidia-installer must be run as root	04:12
Alonea	DaSkreech: well, I am finally among the working...I guess that can be considered good	04:12
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DaSkreech	Where are you working? :)	04:12
geoff__	dwidmann... i missed what you said i guess	04:12
geoff__	repeat.	04:12
dwidmann	geoff__: sorry then, maybe I forgot to highlight it for you :P	04:12
hitmanWilly	bUzz-iN: try downloading the driver from the repos, works better	04:12
trix`G	tsukasa: I can fall back on that if necessary but I was really hoping there's a linux utility out there somewhere to extract zix archives.	04:12
bUzz-iN	this is the file i have to load, but get that error...	04:12
bUzz-iN	sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run	04:12
geoff__	?	04:13
trix`G	geoff: "sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"	04:13
Alonea	DaSkreech: on campus in the Career Services department. Clerical stuff mostly	04:13
trix`G	which is what dwidmann said	04:13
dwidmann	bUzz-iN: any reason you're doing it the hard way? why not just "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"	04:13
bUzz-iN	repos?hitmanWilly	04:13
dwidmann	bUzz-iN: it's in multiverse	04:13
hitmanWilly	bUzz-iN: with apt...ie sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx	04:13
geoff__	sudo apt-get install yum	04:13
dwidmann	bUzz-iN: the package is nvidia-glx-new	04:13
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tsukasa	Trix`G: there may be, the way i tend to find things is looking up the formates in add/remove or maybe google, put the formate in the search with the work linux or what ever distro you are useing.	04:14
geoff__	yum -y update	04:14
DaSkreech	Alonea: Working in Career... oh the irony	04:14
bUzz-iN	hmmm	04:14
geoff__	dwidmann: still waiting on what you said.	04:14
Lilacor	dwidmann: wait a section...aren't I supposed to use nvidia-glx instead?	04:14
dwidmann	geoff__: oh?	04:14
DaSkreech	Hi Jucato	04:14
Lilacor	second	04:14
Lilacor	dOh!	04:14
Jucato	hi DaSkreech	04:14
trix`G	tsukasa: I've already been trying google for the last hour and a half, and Add Remove (Adept) was the first thing I tried	04:14
DaSkreech	Jucato: How goes?	04:14
Jucato	doing ok. :)	04:14
Alonea	DaSkreech: indeed. Seeing how they do this job finder thing at college central, which is where I found the job in the first place	04:14
dwidmann	Lilacor: as far as I can tell, nvidia-glx is the 1.0-9639, and nvidia-glx-new is 1.0-9755	04:15
geoff__	dwidmann please advise.	04:15
trix`G	ahh well wine will have to do I guess, or if not i'll extract it on my roomate's computer and copy it over	04:15
bUzz-iN	so, sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-new ????	04:15
sparr	firefox and thunderbird use a different mouse cursor theme than all my other applications. help?	04:15
dwidmann	1.0-9639 is now the legacy driver, 1.0-7xxx is the old legacy	04:15
dwidmann	geoff__: on?	04:15
hitmanWilly	bUzz-iN: unless you have a legacy card	04:15
geoff__	enabling root account.	04:15
bUzz-iN	not sure ?	04:16
BWOlf85	sparr should just use your default ones...never seen them use anything special	04:16
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dwidmann	bUzz-iN: lspci \| grep VGA	04:16
sparr	BWOlf85: they DO use my default ones. but im not using the default anywhere else.	04:16
geoff__	dwidmann ..... ?	04:16
trix`G	sparr: mind if I /msg you? (about an unrelated matter)	04:16
dwidmann	geoff__: what do you want to be advised on?	04:17
geoff__	dude	04:17
geoff__	i just told you	04:17
geoff__	enabling root account.	04:17
geoff__	enabling root account.	04:17
geoff__	enabling root account.	04:17
geoff__	enabling root account.	04:17
geoff__	enabling root account.	04:17
geoff__	enabling root account.	04:17
BWOlf85	woah	04:17
trix`G	geoff: "sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"	04:17
trix`G	geoff: "sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"	04:17
sparr	trix`G: yes	04:17
trix`G	for the last friggin time	04:17
geoff__	DUDE	04:17
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tsukasa	Trix`G: try install synaptic packate installer and then search from inside there. thats a really good bet. and with google, find some multiverse or other repositors and add them to the list.	04:17
geoff__	that does NOT work	04:17
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dwidmann	geoff__: you asked how to reenable the root account, we already said that all you have to do is sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"	04:17
trix`G	can you be more specific?	04:17
sparr	geoff__: good. you dont need a root account. we are glad that it doesnt work.	04:17
dwidmann	geoff__: It should ...	04:17
geoff__	sigh	04:17
Jucato	geoff__: do not flood please	04:18
bUzz-iN	well that did something	04:18
bUzz-iN	:0	04:18
Qnoy	gggggggggggg	04:18
dwidmann	passwd -u root = unlock the root account, passwd root = set the root password	04:18
sparr	geoff__: perhaps if you were more specific than "that does NOT work" we might get somewhere	04:18
DaSkreech	!pastebin	04:18
bUzz-iN	where did that code come from	04:18
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	04:18
geoff__	i think i'm in chat with people who know nothing about linux. i swear to god.	04:18
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jack_	I can't seem to remember how to allow sshfs to let me have permission to view the mounted share	04:18
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Jucato	wow that was nice	04:18
Fivetwentysix	OKay i give up	04:19
Fivetwentysix	these nvidia drivers hate me	04:19
dwidmann	geoff__: please be nice, I'm almost out of mountain dew, and I've been up for 19 hours. I'm a tad sleepy	04:19
Lilacor	ewww	04:19
trix`G	dwidmann: he already left	04:19
Jucato	dwidmann: too late :)	04:19
BWOlf85	dwindmann he left	04:19
BWOlf85	oops	04:19
dwidmann	Good riddance	04:19
Lilacor	dwidmann: that guy was an asshole	04:19
BluesKaj	dwidmann, put the coffee pot on :)	04:19
Lilacor	a very POMPOUS asshole at that	04:19
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Alonea	DaSkreech: sorry things have not been well for you. Hope things get better!	04:20
trix`G	people need to learn to be patient	04:20
DaSkreech	Alonea: They will after dinner	04:20
trix`G	well that and he seemed to think it's our job to get his problem fixed or something	04:20
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Alonea	DaSkreech: food makes everything better	04:20
Jucato	Lilacor: language please	04:20
DaSkreech	anyone installed flashplugin nonfree recently?	04:20
rollerskatejamms	Does anybody know how to add users to a group? I put the users on the proper line in /etc/group and it does nothing	04:20
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DaSkreech	Alonea: Believe it!	04:20
dwidmann	BluesKaj: seeing as I've already gone through five cans of mountain dew and a pot of tea, I guess the pot of coffee would be the next logical step, thanks for the plan	04:20
geoff__	so tell me dwidmann	04:20
geoff__	why did that not work?	04:20
geoff__	why can i not log in as root still?	04:20
Alonea	DaSkreech: damn...now I think I am hungry again...	04:20
geoff__	with the command that YOU gave me	04:20
geoff__	that is supposed to work?	04:21
dwidmann	geoff__: should be able to ...	04:21
geoff__	nope.	04:21
Jucato	geoff__: you are trying to login graphically as root?	04:21
dwidmann	try seperating it into two statements	04:21
geoff__	YES	04:21
trix`G	haha	04:21
DaSkreech	hitmanWilly: Hear hear!	04:21
dwidmann	geoff: sudo passwd -u root; sudo passwd root	04:21
trix`G	ok	04:21
geoff__	no	04:21
BluesKaj	hehe, was just kidding dwidmann , we all have to sleep sometime , after 19hrs ...it's time :)	04:21
geoff__	does not work.	04:21
Jucato	!root \| geoff__	04:21
ubotu	geoff__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	04:21
dwidmann	BluesKaj: lies. Sleep is for the weak	04:21
Jucato	geoff__: that page has instructions on how to do that	04:21
geoff__	jucato ...... shhhhhh.......	04:21
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DaSkreech	Is the Flashplugin not verified by the apt system?	04:22
Jucato	DaSkreech: what do you mean "not verified"?	04:22
geoff__	god just forget it.... no linux knowing people	04:22
Cface	How do i know which driver to install for my Sound card?	04:22
DaSkreech	"WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! flashplugin-nonfree Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?	04:22
Jucato	hm... strange	04:22
jordo23	Why does ARK always fail to open my .tat.gz archives? Is there something that I need?	04:23
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dwidmann	DaSkreech: last I heard, the flash package was just a script to download flash from adobes site and set it up, I've never tried it though so I wouldn't know (said convenient package/script isn't in the amd64 repo)	04:23
rollerskatejamms	Does anybody know what the file "/etc/group-" is for. NOT /etc/group	04:23
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hitmanWilly	DaSkreech: apt-key issues sounds like	04:23
Jucato	DaSkreech: better ask in #ubuntu-motu or ping crimsun	04:23
DaSkreech	I know	04:23
DaSkreech	Jucato: Ok	04:23
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rollerskatejamms	Grr	04:23
dsmith__	geoff needs to learn to lighting up	04:23
Jucato	dwidmann: btw, he was asking how to login graphically as root. but he should have still read the wiki. which has the exact instructions he needs	04:24
dwidmann	geoff needs to get a life, or better yet, find someone else to harass	04:24
hitmanWilly	i just can't figure out why he would need to log in graphically as root...makes no sense	04:24
Jucato	actualy, he just needs to learn how to read	04:24
dsmith__	dont need root	04:24
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hitmanWilly	since the normal ubu acct is root jr. anyway	04:25
Jucato	but yeah. no need to login graphically as root at all	04:25
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dwidmann	root jr?	04:25
Jucato	sudoer	04:25
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hitmanWilly	sudo enabled	04:25
BluesKaj	bedtime for me ..nite all	04:25
dwidmann	Jucato: nothing su -c can't handle eh?	04:25
hitmanWilly	do root stuff w/out a root password	04:25
dwidmann	ah, true enough	04:26
Lilacor	what a freakin' tool	04:26
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BWOlf85	you get over it hitman lol	04:27
hitmanWilly	i still think its a gaping security hole...	04:27
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dwidmann	hitmanWilly: maybe so	04:28
dwidmann	hitmanWilly: still, better than nothing, or negative something (aka windows)	04:28
hitmanWilly	lol	04:28
DaSkreech	hitmanWilly: how is it a hole?	04:29
trix`G	hitmanWilly: easy to fix, just set a root password.	04:29
dwidmann	requiring regular programs to run as root, practically a walk-in invitation...	04:29
hitmanWilly	one of the first things i did	04:29
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hitmanWilly	at least on the laptop...the one that runs kubuntu	04:30
dsmith__	Caution: Sudo command invoked... Cancel or Allow?	04:30
hitmanWilly	roflmao	04:30
trix`G	lol when I first switched to kubuntu I set a root password and enabled the root account, because I was used to having one, now, months later, I realize that I haven't actually logged in as root once since I enabled it, I've grown used to sudo or sudo /bin/bash	04:30
dsmith__	:P	04:31
hitmanWilly	i still su all the time for editing config files and such	04:31
=== dsmith__ don;t need no stinkin' root
Jucato	trix`G: sudo /bin/bash?	04:31
trix`G	that's what I 'sudo /bin/bash' for	04:31
DaSkreech	Jucato: It's not supposed to do that	04:31
trix`G	jucato: ghetto way of logging root in	04:32
Jucato	DaSkreech: hm... strange...	04:32
BWOlf85	allow solitare cancel or allow	04:32
=== hitmanWilly grew up on slackware
Jucato	trix`G: you mean like "sudo -i"?	04:32
trix`G	yeah	04:32
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BWOlf85	anyone maybe be able to help me over pm as to why my windows computer wont let the ethernet card install	04:33
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DaSkreech	kyah2004: yo	04:33
trix`G	except i didn't know about that switch when I first thought of sudo /bin/bash	04:33
DaSkreech	BWOlf85: try ##windows	04:33
dwidmann	!windows	04:33
ubotu	For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents	04:33
DaSkreech	how's things in Jamaica ;)	04:34
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Alonea	damn..I still can't figure out how to get this PySol to work right...I am too used to make, make install. I don't understand what is wrong here...	04:34
DaSkreech	!flash	04:34
trix`G	BWOlf85: windows? have you tried rebooting a few dozen times during the install?	04:34
ubotu	To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	04:34
BWOlf85	trix it just wont go anywhere	04:34
masterk	how do I start group chat in gaim on msn protocol?	04:34
kyah2004	waddup	04:34
hitmanWilly	Alonea: are there any shell scripts in the dir?	04:34
kyah2004	what do i do next	04:34
BWOlf85	just sits there with the files "moving" from one folder to the next	04:34
Fivetwentysix	Does gaim even work on KDE?	04:34
tsukasa	yes	04:35
DaSkreech	kyah2004: you have a strange problem :-)	04:35
trix`G	uhm, reboot? the only thing I really know about windows is that you have to reboot to change anything. over and over.	04:35
masterk	!windows	04:35
ubotu	For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents	04:35
dwidmann	Fivetwentysix: of course	04:35
kyah2004	so i notice	04:35
masterk	lol I love that message	04:35
DaSkreech	Jucato: I have to run home. Can You look at kyah2004's problem for me in the interim?	04:35
masterk	ubotu you are the best	04:35
Alonea	hitmanWilly: nope. all .py or .pyc . For the sound server, there was make files and even a readme. that all worked out ok and when I do python pysol.py, it doesn't complain about the sound server anymore	04:35
dwidmann	!bot	04:35
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	04:35
DaSkreech	!bug 1	04:35
ubotu	For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents	04:35
DaSkreech	:-)	04:35
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masterk	lol	04:36
Jucato	DaSkreech: huh? I'm actually in the middle of studying... what's the problem?	04:36
DaSkreech	Jucato: no worries then	04:36
hitmanWilly	Alonea: any error messages? or just won't start?	04:36
DaSkreech	Flash won't install	04:36
DaSkreech	dwidmann: Got a few minutes ?	04:36
dwidmann	DaSkreech: yeah	04:37
DaSkreech	dwidmann: kyah2004 is trying to install flash	04:37
Alonea	hitmanWilly: there are error messages that confuse me	04:37
dwidmann	DaSkreech: and the results are?	04:37
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DaSkreech	It seems that apt is pulling the package but after that things get hairy	04:37
masterk	kyah2004 did you try installing through adept?	04:37
hitmanWilly	Alonea: can you pastebin them? i know a very little python	04:37
DaSkreech	I have to run home can you look at it for me in the interim	04:37
kyah2004	masterk: yeh it crashed	04:37
DaSkreech	masterk: nope Command line	04:37
masterk	ah	04:37
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ses1959_	i am looking for the new thunderbird 2.0 in the 64 bit linux but could not find the link. Does anyone have the link for this please?	04:38
Alonea	hitmanWilly: ttp://pastebin.ca/499503	04:38
DaSkreech	dwidmann: I had him try manually open the tar.gz that apt pulled down and it seemed corrupt	04:38
Alonea	http://pastebin.ca/499503	04:38
kyah2004	masterk: or better yet it hung in the process, so i am trying command lime now and i am still having some issues	04:38
dwidmann	DaSkreech: one minute then, I might as well whip up a little script. If the repository is giving trouble, it'd be easier to do it manually	04:38
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ses1959_	or is thunderbird only available for 32 at this time	04:38
DaSkreech	so he removed it and re did the apt-get install :)	04:38
DaSkreech	kyah2004: dwidmann is the ... ummm mann I guess	04:39
DaSkreech	I gotta run home	04:39
DaSkreech	listen to him and jam here	04:39
masterk	what happens under the command line?	04:39
GWillakers	How can I arrange the order of songs in a playlist using GTKPOD? Not very intuitive if there's a way.	04:39
DaSkreech	If you got other questions this is the place to shoot them	04:39
kyah2004	alright thanks Daskreech	04:39
trix`G	what is the use of /dev/null?	04:39
tsukasa	>> anyone know how to get a zune to be detectable in kubu without useing vmware?	04:40
Alonea	hitmanWilly: there is also a .gdbinit file in there	04:40
kyah2004	alright when i run the command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree it continues and finishes at ok...	04:40
dwidmann	Anyone by chance know firefox's default plugin directory?	04:41
hitmanWilly	Alonea: its having problems finding files it needs, you may want to see if there's an install instructions file somewhere	04:41
masterk	have you tried downloading the package from adobe then installing using the command prompt?	04:41
Alonea	hitmanWilly: will look around some more...	04:41
kyah2004	then i have to ctrl-c to get back command prompt	04:41
hitmanWilly	dwidmann: /usr/lib/moziila i think	04:41
BWOlf85	i had to do what masterk did	04:42
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Lilacor	geez, whaddyaknow... I install nvidia-glx-new and then I can save to xorg.conf!	04:42
Lilacor	>_<;;;	04:42
dwidmann	hitmanWilly: /usr/lib/mozilla, or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?	04:42
nixternal	trix`G: /dev/null is used for disposing of unwanted input/output streams	04:42
hitmanWilly	dwidmann: /plugins	04:42
hitmanWilly	dwidmann: i figured you could get that part :)	04:43
trpr	i can enable compiz from within kde?	04:43
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dwidmann	kyah2004: Okay, I've got the script whipped up and ready to go, I guess I'll pastebin it	04:43
kyah2004	when i go to adobe the website doesnt load, mainly bcuz i think they have flash on the website that they allow u to download flash	04:43
trix`G	nixternal: unwanted input/output streams... I would guess you would simply stream them directly to it (so it's like a black hole in the computer?) but what would be an unwanted input/output stream? I mean could you provide an example?	04:44
kyah2004	alrighht thanks dwidmann	04:44
trix`G	oh and thank you nixternal	04:44
dwidmann	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21777/ kyah2004	04:44
nixternal	dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null > Packages	04:44
nixternal	trix`G: yes you are correct about the "black hole"	04:44
Coldwar55	Question, I'm getting a "slight jerkiness" when I play DVDs in Kaffine which never happened before	04:46
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Coldwar55	Any reason why that would happen?	04:46
dwidmann	Coldwar55: maybe dma decided to disable itself	04:46
hitmanWilly	Coldwar55: dma probly	04:46
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Coldwar55	How woudl I check that?	04:46
dwidmann	Coldwar55: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hd*	04:46
trix`G	nixternal: thanks!	04:46
Coldwar55	All on	04:47
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dwidmann	Coldwar55: do you have postprocessing and deinterlacing settings on? They can be pretty cpu intensive	04:47
Coldwar55	I don't belive so	04:47
hitmanWilly	Coldwar55: it might just be system resources	04:47
Coldwar55	I didn't do anythign to my system	04:47
Alonea	hitmanWilly: I guess I will just go back to the one in the repo, even though sound does not work.	04:47
dwidmann	Coldwar55: is the system under load?	04:48
Coldwar55	10-20%	04:48
Coldwar55	which is wierd	04:48
Coldwar55	I only have KvIRC, amarok (Not playing anything) and Kopete open	04:48
dwidmann	Coldwar55: weird indeed, what processes are to blame?	04:48
hitmanWilly	Alonea: well, you might be able to simply install the repo version, then compile the sound server seperately	04:49
dwidmann	Probably X I reckon ... but I could be wrong	04:49
Coldwar55	I think	04:49
Coldwar55	When I went to system process	04:49
Coldwar55	It has a 10.50% cpu utilization	04:49
Coldwar55	which is somethign I don't understand because I did nothing to my system over the past week	04:49
Alonea	hitmanWilly: maybe. Thing is, a sound server is listed in the repos, but it doesn't seem to work	04:49
Coldwar55	and yesterday I was playing DVDs fine	04:49
dwidmann	Hmm, what video driver are you using Coldwar55?, X is taking up rather a bit of CPU	04:50
Coldwar55	ATi	04:50
Coldwar55	I never had this problem before	04:50
hitmanWilly	Alonea: apt-build the sound server...that compiles from source a la gentoo	04:50
Coldwar55	Oh and i Have superkaramba running but that's never beena problem	04:50
dwidmann	Coldwar55: Maybe it's just the disk?	04:50
dwidmann	!!	04:50
dwidmann	Coldwar55: Close superkaramba	04:50
Coldwar55	I dont' know	04:50
dwidmann	Coldwar55: superkaramba always makes the screen jitter when it repaints, I don't know why, but it does.	04:51
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BWOlf85	um wow just noticed the time tracker...im scared to use it to see how much time i spend on here	04:52
dwidmann	Especially if you have superkaramba open, as well as having a video maximized in kaffeine, you can see it stutter where the applets are positioned	04:52
Coldwar55	hmm	04:52
Coldwar55	it's odd	04:52
Coldwar55	Because theis never happened before	04:52
dwidmann	BWOlf85: is that time spent idling or talking?	04:52
Coldwar55	How do I renable the the applet?	04:52
Coldwar55	on the tray	04:52
BWOlf85	time im on the computer	04:52
BWOlf85	can time whatever task u want	04:52
dwidmann	Coldwar55: erm, well, just restart superkaramba from the menu?	04:52
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dwidmann	BWOlf85: having fun with the time command?	04:53
BWOlf85	yah	04:53
dwidmann	BWOlf85: think the last time I used it was when I decided to figure out how l ong it took to rip a DVD ... think it was in the 1.5-2 hour range	04:53
BWOlf85	yah	04:54
hitmanWilly	about as long as it takes to watch it :)	04:54
Alonea	hitmanWilly: w00t! I have sound!	04:54
dwidmann	Hmm, my uptime is nowhere near where it usually is ..... oh, that's right, I just resetup Kubuntu the other day :O	04:54
hitmanWilly	Alonea: :) how'd you get it?	04:55
dwidmann	I'd turned traitor and installed Debian ;)	04:55
dwidmann	which reminds me that I need to grab Debians kernel and install it in feisty ...	04:55
Alonea	hitmanWilly: not quite positive if it was because I installed the sound server with apt or if it was from when did it from source. ^^;;	04:55
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Coldwar55	That's rather annoying	04:56
Coldwar55	that worked	04:56
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Coldwar55	but I never had a problem with Superkaramba running	04:56
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hitmanWilly	Alonea: probably one of the two :)	04:56
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dwidmann	Coldwar55: yhou have now I guess?	04:56
hitmanWilly	Alonea: or a combo	04:56
Coldwar55	??	04:56
dwidmann	kyah2004: did it work?	04:56
Coldwar55	It works now	04:56
Coldwar55	no jerkiness	04:56
Coldwar55	But I feel "naked" without superkaramba :/	04:56
BWOlf85	so is the true difference between kubuntu and ubuntu the KDE user interface?	04:56
Alonea	hitmanWilly: either way, it works now and I am happy for sound. I hate it when features in a program does not work	04:56
hitmanWilly	ditto	04:57
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ejortegau	hi there. any kubuntu / ubuntu mantainers here? i think i found a problem with the dependencies of amarok	04:57
dwidmann	Coldwar55: yeah, I know what you mean ... just add an icon for it in your tray, or ready your fingers and use katapult	04:57
Coldwar55	errm	04:57
Coldwar55	What's katapult do?	04:57
dwidmann	ejortegau: odd, I didn't have any problem with it	04:57
dwidmann	Coldwar55: hit alt+space, start typing	04:57
Coldwar55	adfadf	04:57
dwidmann	Coldwar55: you'll see ;)	04:57
Coldwar55	nothign?	04:57
ejortegau	dwidmann: well, i just installed 7.04 and amarok would not play radio stations	04:58
dwidmann	odd, is it not running? must not be	04:58
Coldwar55	nope	04:58
Coldwar55	it's not	04:58
ejortegau	problem was 2 missing packages	04:58
dwidmann	Coldwar55: alt + f2, type katapult	04:58
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ejortegau	libxine something and other i don't remember.	04:58
Coldwar55	o_O	04:59
Coldwar55	Whoa that's wierd	04:59
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dwidmann	ejortegau: what format is the radio stations format in? if it's mp3 keep in mind that kubuntu doesn't ship with mp3 support, so it might be an optional dependency?	05:00
ejortegau	mp3	05:00
dwidmann	Coldwar55: big-time time saver :)	05:00
ejortegau	hm	05:00
ejortegau	i didn't know that	05:00
ejortegau	why? patent issues?	05:00
tsukasa	mp3 i belive runs under sertain license	05:00
ejortegau	i see...	05:00
tsukasa	as well as encrypted dvd support	05:00
hitmanWilly	licensing issues	05:00
dwidmann	ejortegau: either patent or copyright or both	05:00
ejortegau	that sucks... still, how come other distros do? are they breaking any laws or something?	05:01
dwidmann	wait, yeah, it's patent	05:01
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dwidmann	ejortegau: hard to say, it depends on what country you're in.	05:01
hitmanWilly	either they pay the licensing fees, or are based overseas	05:01
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hitmanWilly	overseas == not US	05:01
ejortegau	i see	05:02
ejortegau	hm, ok	05:02
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muaddib	anyone want to help me out with some open-ssh info?	05:03
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masterk	how do I install a deb package?	05:04
ninina	anyone know how I can make firefox my defualt webbrowser for stuff	05:04
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Jucato	masterk: right-click on the .deb file -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package	05:04
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Jucato	ninina: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser	05:04
hitmanWilly	masterk: or sudo dpkg -i <pkg_name>	05:04
ejortegau	ok, thanks guys, cya	05:05
kyah2004	dwidmann: seems like there is an issue downloading from the url u gave me for flash	05:05
dwidmann	kyah2004: odd, it worked the other day ...	05:05
ninina	Jucato: Thanks I assume other defualts are done the same way?	05:06
Lilacor	ninina: still kickin' and not giving up on linux yet I see	05:06
dwidmann	kyah2004: that link just go the works-for-me stamp of approval. The link certainly isn't dead.	05:06
Lilacor	ninina: that's good	05:06
dwidmann	kyah2004: what does wget say when it tries to download it, if there are any errors can you pastebin them for me?	05:07
masterk	it seems it didn't install correctly or something	05:07
masterk	has anyone here installed frostwire?	05:07
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hitmanWilly	masterk: probably unmet dependencies	05:07
ninina	Lilacor: Meh I always have a few days in me, what will really show is if I'm still here after the newness of beryl wears off and I deside I want to play a video game	05:08
masterk	is java already in kubuntu?	05:08
kyah2004	dwidmann: there isnt any errors it just sticks at 0% forever with the time moving	05:08
dwidmann	masterk: in which case, running it in konsole would probably unmask your problems running it	05:08
hitmanWilly	masterk: not by default	05:08
dwidmann	kyah2004: that's really weird	05:08
Lilacor	ninina: linux isn't made for games...yet	05:08
masterk	thats why it didn't run	05:08
dwidmann	kyah2004: ctrl + c then re-run the script and see if it works	05:08
ninina	Lilacor: that's why I go back to windows...and I tend not to return	05:09
kyah2004	cool	05:09
hitmanWilly	ninina: that's the last major area for linux to get a foothold in	05:09
Lilacor	ninina: oh well..whatever suits you	05:09
dwidmann	masterk: there is a jvm included in kubuntu, however, it ain't that great, you'd be better off installing sun's jvm	05:09
ninina	Lilacor: so if I do return then I'm sold	05:09
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kyah2004	dwidmann: should i run the script in parts or should i copy and paste all of it and run it one time	05:10
hitmanWilly	ninina: for games, you might want to look into wine or cedega	05:10
dwidmann	kyah2004: faster to do it all at once, but it doesn't really matter	05:10
kyah2004	cool	05:10
ninina	hitmanWilly: I know, but I find that the game support is massively limited	05:11
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hitmanWilly	ninina: that's cause game developers don't like spending money to port games over to a system that has such a small market share	05:13
kyah2004	dwidmann: i even tried using konquerer and firefox to download from that url and the file just stalls	05:14
hitmanWilly	ninina: at least that's how they see it...plus they've spent so much time working with directx they don't want to change over to opengl	05:14
hitmanWilly	ninina: with a few notable exceptions	05:15
dwidmann	kyah2004: odd, try going to adobe.com , and downloading the file manually from there ... I don't know why the link won't work for you, it works fo rme	05:16
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kyah2004	oh zeen	05:16
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ninina	hitmanWilly: I completely understand, I was going to be a game programmer for a while so I know some of the politics, but I need my games in the end...I'm such an adict =(	05:17
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hakaisou	!startup	05:20
ubotu	To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup	05:20
hakaisou	bah!	05:21
hitmanWilly	ninina: that was my last holdout for windows too :)	05:21
hakaisou	same here.	05:21
dwidmann	hakaisou: if you need programs runnign when you startup kde, just open whatever you want to have running at startup and go to k-menu-> save session	05:21
=== hitmanWilly is angry that ut3 is not going to ship with linux support
hakaisou	are you crazy willy?	05:22
dwidmann	:	05:22
ninina	hitmanWilly: I have a few others, namely Visual Studios...but yeah that is the big one	05:22
dwidmann	:O	05:22
hakaisou	major games NEVER have linux support	05:22
hendaus	i want to update my kubuntu from dapper to fiesty, can anyone help me please	05:22
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dwidmann	hendaus: best way would be to get the feisty cd, and do a reinstall	05:23
hitmanWilly	ut has always been linux capable	05:23
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ebarber	hi	05:23
hitmanWilly	plus id's games all have linux installers you can download	05:23
hitmanWilly	made by id	05:24
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hendaus	dwidmann: i dont have feisty cd	05:24
Pelo	!download	05:24
ubotu	Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php	05:24
matt001	hendaus, can you backup your files?	05:24
Pelo	hendaus, dl the cd from there	05:24
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hendaus	matt001: backup?	05:25
dwidmann	I say the best way is a reinstall because if you can't do a reinstall, you have to first upgrade to edgy, then upgrade to feisty ... so you'd be downloading quite a bit more	05:25
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hendaus	Pelo: but i dont have cd in blank now cool, i am searching	05:25
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masterk	adept isn't opening now...	05:25
intelikey	well i guess i'll have to use a case fan on my cpu. oh none...	05:25
matt001	hendaus, so that you can keep a safe copy of your files if you decide to upgrade / full install	05:25
bob_	any error message?	05:25
masterk	nope	05:26
Pelo	hendaus, start downloading it anyway, you can always get some cd,s later, we're not gonna do this tonight anyway, it's getting a bit late for me	05:26
masterk	after I type in the password it just doesn't do anything	05:26
bob_	check the sources list	05:26
hitmanWilly	intelikey: heh...	05:26
bob_	sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list	05:26
hakaisou	dwidmann: i'm not seeing this option...	05:26
hitmanWilly	intelikey: old one die?	05:26
intelikey	yep	05:26
intelikey	stone cold grave yard dead.	05:27
dwidmann	hakaisou: it was always there before ... odd.	05:27
hakaisou	!session	05:27
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:27
hitmanWilly	its an older proc, right? a heatsink by itself might do the trick...maybe	05:27
hendaus	Pelo: cool , i am living in colombia so i have time to install	05:27
ubuntu_	Hello	05:27
hakaisou	hello ubuntu	05:27
Minataku	Hey, intelikey and dwidmann, guess what I got my hands on by complete chance	05:27
ubuntu_	Is there a way to move a partition to somewhere else?	05:27
dwidmann	Minataku: a million dollars that you want to share with me?	05:27
intelikey	hitmanWilly yeah i could prolly get by with no fan but i don't really like the idea.	05:28
hitmanWilly	neither would i :)	05:28
intelikey	Minataku i'm all ears	05:28
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hendaus	Pelo: yes i have found a cd blank	05:28
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Minataku	A prototype SGI POWER Indigo^2 :D	05:28
intelikey	really ?	05:28
Minataku	It's an IP26 mainboard and R8000 CPU module in a teal Indigo^2 case	05:28
Minataku	Yeah	05:28
GWillakers	How can I arrange the order of songs in a playlist using GTKPOD? Not very intuitive if there's a way.	05:28
Pelo	hendaus, hve fun then	05:29
Minataku	The sticker on the back with the FCC info and such is missing	05:29
needs2repart	:-S	05:29
Minataku	It's replaced with a white label that says "PROTOTYPE TETON PRE MR"	05:29
needs2repart	!repartition	05:29
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about repartition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:29
dwidmann	Interesting	05:29
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hitmanWilly	hmmm	05:29
needs2repart	!partition	05:29
ubotu	Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter	05:29
intelikey	kewl	05:29
dwidmann	So, it's from the mid-90's right?	05:30
Minataku	dwidmann: Yeah	05:30
hendaus	Pelo: download .torrent or iso which one fast	05:30
Minataku	It's a rare prototype of an already rare machine	05:30
dwidmann	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indigo2	05:30
dwidmann	Indeed.	05:30
bob_	that depends hendaus	05:30
dwidmann	How'd you come by it?	05:30
Minataku	dwidmann: University decomissioned equipment sale	05:30
Pelo	hendaus, impossible to tell, you're choice, if you have torrent capability you are helping the community by using torrents	05:30
bob_	en torrent puede ser mas seguro	05:30
dwidmann	Minataku: How much did it set you back? It's a classic :)	05:31
hendaus	ok thanx anyway	05:31
Minataku	Heehee	05:31
Minataku	$10	05:31
Minataku	:D	05:31
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dwidmann	Whoa, that's cheap!	05:31
Minataku	Indeed	05:31
hitmanWilly	nice	05:32
masterk	how do I install a patch file?	05:32
Minataku	The proto label was covered up by some company's name	05:32
Minataku	Probably the company that sold it to the Uni	05:32
Minataku	They hid that it was a proto, and I guess the Uni recently decomissioned it	05:32
bob_	what u mean exactly?, patch file?	05:32
intelikey	so that was the 75mhz modle ?	05:33
Minataku	intelikey: Yeah, it's got the 75MHz R8000	05:33
intelikey	i heard that over clocking was an option there.	05:33
Minataku	The CPU Module is "Assy no. 030-0751-001 Rev. 0"	05:33
masterk	I downloaded a gz file that contained a patch file, it is the ibm_acpi patch	05:34
intelikey	jumpers on the board iirc	05:34
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bob_	does it have a CONFIGURE file?	05:34
masterk	nope just the patch file	05:34
ninina	anyone know how my autostart beryl...or is that a bad idea?	05:34
word	What's the name for the xserver debuginfo package?	05:34
masterk	hmm... maybe theres more to dl	05:35
bob_	no idea masterk, maybe you need to paste it on the desired folder?	05:35
Minataku	hitmanWilly: Heehee, sorry, this is my baby now XD	05:35
hitmanWilly	ninina: link to the beryl exec file in ~/.kde/Autostart	05:35
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dsmith__	nas anyone noticed that some peope do not care if they run windows or linux?	05:36
dsmith__	*has	05:36
intelikey	ninina beryl support is "supposed" to be in #ubuntu-effects but a link or script in ~/.kde/Autostart/ should answer your Q.	05:36
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dwidmann	dsmith__: yeah, point being?	05:36
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dsmith__	just an observation	05:36
=== hitmanWilly has noticed that most people just want a computer that works
intelikey	dsmith__ yes. sad.	05:36
dsmith__	exactly...	05:36
dwidmann	Me, I personally do care. I hate Windows' guts.	05:36
dsmith__	lol...	05:37
bob_	i do care, on Windoze i was worried about worms, virus and garbage config files, not anymore	05:37
ninina	intelikey: #ubuntu-effect said "we don't anything that starts with a K" T_T	05:37
word	dwidmann: how can you hate windows' guts if you can't see them? ZING	05:37
dsmith__	hah	05:37
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hitmanWilly	ugh, gnomes	05:37
intelikey	ninina so you found a jerk, and you can tell them i said so.	05:37
dsmith__	!	05:37
hitmanWilly	seconded	05:37
masterk	can someone take a look at this patch file and tell me what to do with it? it's just a bunch of code and stuff I don't understand	05:38
dsmith__	kde is much nicer	05:38
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ninina	intelikey: okies well I'll mess around with .kde/autostart	05:38
Lilacor	holy cow the latest mac vs pc ad is brutal!	05:38
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Lilacor	it's sad but true...lots of windows boxes come bloated with all kinds of crapware	05:38
dwidmann	bob_: I think I was just afraid of Windows itself really. What with explorer.exe crashing, and things like Windows Update available to sabotage your computer until you turned it off, and viruses running amok everywhere, even on the windows update site (kind of sad really). Maintenace #$!@#.	05:38
dsmith__	i have 5 desktops to populate nest week for the office and I have been contemplating using xubuntu vs. kde, but gosh darn kubuntu is so much prettier	05:38
ninina	I think KDE's desktop image rotate is the best pre-beryl invention	05:38
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dsmith__	ninina: I love that feature	05:39
dsmith__	i got someone to checkout linux due to that	05:39
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Minataku	Heh, IP26 doesn't have a working Linux yet XD	05:39
bob_	we all now that kind of garbage that windoze actually is...., sorry for the flaming	05:39
masterk	can someone take a look at this patch file and tell me what to do with it? it's just a bunch of code and stuff I don't understand please?	05:39
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dsmith__	not flaming... TRUTHS	05:39
Lilacor	ninina: image rotate? do tell..	05:40
intelikey	ninina hehhe :)	05:40
bob_	indeed dsmith	05:40
Minataku	I'll need to get my hands on a copy of IRIX for the SGI	05:40
dsmith__	Lilacor: KDE has a desktop background rotate feature	05:40
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dsmith__	so does XP though	05:40
intelikey	yeah should be a dl on the web no?	05:40
ninina	dsmith__: XP does?	05:41
Minataku	intelikey: Supposedly	05:41
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Lilacor	dsmith__: do I just do that through desktop settings?	05:41
Minataku	I probably need an SGI account	05:41
dsmith__	one sec	05:41
Minataku	Like I have with Sun to get Solaris for free	05:41
ninina	intelikey: I thought it was pretty good hehe	05:41
bob_	could somebody give a hand to masterk, i'm walking on darkness when becomes to patch files	05:41
dwidmann	Minataku: how is solaris, I never did get around to playing with it	05:42
Minataku	It's nice, especially on Sun machines	05:42
dsmith__	Lilacor: Right click Desktop...configure desktop...click on background..click on slideshow...then setup	05:42
Lilacor	okie dokey	05:42
intelikey	bob_ unfortunately i'd be shadow boxing too.	05:42
bob_	k	05:42
hitmanWilly	beyond me as well	05:43
Minataku	I got 6 other computers too	05:43
bob_	sorry masterk, we tried...	05:43
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Minataku	But the prototype SGI kinda trumps them all	05:43
word	masterk: patch -p0 > [patchfile] in the directory of the software your working on pre-compile	05:43
Minataku	Uh	05:43
word	i always get the > and < mixed up flip it if you get an error..	05:43
Minataku	It's <	05:43
intelikey	bob_ & masterk normally anything that comes as a tarball also has it's on instructions look for all caps file names	05:43
bob_	there u go	05:43
dwidmann	Minataku: heh, I only have one (working) computer.	05:43
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Minataku	You want to pipe the data from the patch file into the patch program	05:44
dsmith__	speaking of PCs, I almost acquired (4) Acer P3's on Saturday, for $10each. ASUS board 512mb ram, etc....	05:44
bob_	yup, I asked fot something like that to masterk	05:44
dwidmann	dsmith__: almost? I would have jumped on that ...	05:44
hitmanWilly	me too	05:44
dsmith__	it was for a charity, but someone told them to get $100 for one pc, keyboard, mouse and monitor	05:44
bob_	what do u think about Dell selling PCs with ubuntu preinstalled?	05:44
dsmith__	i balked and walked	05:45
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Aresilek	ok first things first how do i change the keyboard layout to a latin keyboard in kubuntu?	05:45
dsmith__	bob_: swee	05:45
Minataku	Heh	05:45
dsmith__	bob_: sweet	05:45
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dwidmann	bob_: I'd think a little more of it if it were better advertised	05:45
Minataku	I've got... uh... 23 computers now	05:45
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dsmith__	lol	05:45
bob_	lol	05:45
word	noz!	05:45
dwidmann	word: because, there seems to be no support going on at the moment, and it's rather dull when the room is dead.	05:45
dsmith__	23?	05:46
Aresilek	!latin keyboard	05:46
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about latin keyboard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:46
Lilacor	dsmith__: hmm...and is the background supposed to just scroll or change ever certain time interval	05:46
Lilacor	?	05:46
Aresilek	:-(	05:46
dsmith__	Lilacor: add some pics in that folder	05:46
intelikey	Minataku you are growing i'm in decline. i think i only have 6 now.	05:46
dsmith__	yes	05:46
dsmith__	i have ~20	05:46
Minataku	Heh	05:46
masterk	ok i'm lost with this...	05:46
bob_	I have only 2 systems....:P	05:46
hitmanWilly	Aresilek: should be in kcontrol under regional/accessibility -> keyboard layout	05:46
dwidmann	If I have 1 with 5 virtual machines, does that count as six?	05:46
bob_	LOL	05:47
dsmith__	of course	05:47
Lilacor	dsmith__: I did. I added all of the default pictures.	05:47
masterk	i found out i needed to dl something else	05:47
bob_	perfect masterk	05:47
intelikey	dwidmann if it does my count is gonna sky rocket	05:47
dsmith__	Lilacor: it should rotate based on your time settings	05:47
masterk	so i dl it and the readme loses me... what's this about getting a kernel with acpi support?	05:47
Lilacor	dsmith__: I'm an idiot. I had it set for an hour.	05:48
bob_	boom	05:48
hitmanWilly	masterk: don't worry, ubuntu has that	05:48
dsmith__	Lilacor: No, your a linux user..	05:48
dsmith__	:)	05:48
Lilacor	dsmith__: :P	05:48
bob_	;)	05:48
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Lilacor	I think I like the SVG background better	05:49
Lilacor	very smooth	05:49
bob_	damn i need a shower and a good shave,,,,,:P	05:49
Aresilek	how do i open kcontrol?	05:49
BWOlf85	go get one bob	05:49
intelikey	geeky	05:49
Lilacor	bob_: in that order?	05:49
bob_	LOL	05:49
hitmanWilly	Aresilek: alt-f2 then type it in	05:50
bob_	sitting here all day	05:50
dwidmann	bob_: so do I, but I was going to procrastinated. And you had to go and remind me :\	05:50
dwidmann	* minus d	05:50
bob_	hahahhaa	05:50
dsmith__	I planted all my tomato plants today... instead of setting in front of my laptop	05:50
dsmith__	:)	05:50
Aresilek	does alt-f2 bring up a terminal?	05:50
null	how can i abort a shutdown now?	05:50
bob_	i was playing ET :P	05:50
Aresilek	and is so how do i get out once im in it?	05:50
hitmanWilly	Aresilek: just a run dialog	05:50
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intelikey	dwidmann being reminded has never broken my procrastination...	05:51
hitmanWilly	Aresilek: close the window	05:51
dsmith__	there is always tomorrow..	05:51
dwidmann	intelikey: shhhh, you might remind my conscious self of that.	05:51
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Aresilek	ok thanks it's on latin keyboard now....	05:52
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word	is the packages.ubuntu.com site down temporarily?	05:52
dwidmann	I think my bed is going to kidnap me for about 10-16 hours now.	05:52
hitmanWilly	word: apparently	05:53
bob_	i have to be up and running at 6 am tomorrow :(	05:53
masterk	what's this about make?	05:53
word	masterk: sudo apt-get install build-essential	05:53
dwidmann	bob_: I work weekends ... and as such I had to be up and running at 3am today	05:53
word	masterk: that installs make as well as other utilitys	05:53
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bob_	damn	05:54
word	masterk: you need them to compile programs	05:54
intelikey	i had two grand fathers.... not unlike some of you... the one's philosophy was something like this. "why put off until tomarrow what you can finish today" while the other would say something along the line of "i've got to much to do, to get it all done anyway; i think i'll just go fishing" so i can by rights choose either approach to lifes issues...	05:54
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tulga	can I install beryl on kubuntu 7.04?	05:55
tulga	where is good howto guide	05:55
BWOlf85	lfs?	05:55
bob_	I work from home, but still, it's work :P	05:55
hitmanWilly	linux from scratch	05:55
dwidmann	tulga: the beryl wiki has a nice guide IIRC	05:55
intelikey	tulga yes. the wikis have docs	05:55
tulga	ok. is beryl nice?	05:56
intelikey	or is that wikii	05:56
dwidmann	bob_I got home early today though :D 2:30	05:56
bob_	hehe	05:56
BWOlf85	i need a way that i can work at home!	05:56
bob_	ebay!	05:56
hitmanWilly	intelikey: no, cuz just one would be wikus then :)	05:56
BWOlf85	selling what on ebay	05:56
word	tulga: the guide is -very- easy beryl-desktop.org there's like 2 commands to get your xorg configured and a couple more for some optional things	05:56
bob_	i seel linux stuff on ebay, thats what i do	05:56
intelikey	hitmanWilly not if wiki is single	05:56
dwidmann	BWOlf85: souls?	05:57
bob_	sell*	05:57
tulga	okey	05:57
dwidmann	BWOlf85: but arms and legs preferably	05:57
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BWOlf85	dwidmann no souls their to hard to get people are stingy bout them	05:57
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intelikey	well you could be right. it's your language, i'm just trying to abuse it.	05:57
hitmanWilly	lol	05:57
intelikey	anyone here speek cherokee ?	05:58
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hitmanWilly	i think english deserves to be abused as much as possible	05:58
intelikey	perzactly	05:58
dwidmann	intelikey: I have a feeling the odds of that are abysmally low	05:58
word	!gibberish	05:59
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gibberish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:59
word	apparently no channel for people who speak gibberish	05:59
dwidmann	"I refuse to be part of a society that encourages the rampant abuse of its own language."	05:59
bob_	check this out guys, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250098633518	05:59
intelikey	dwidmann me too	05:59
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hitmanWilly	dwidmann: what, just because a scan of Spin crashed my spellchecker?	06:00
puppetmaster	hi everyone	06:00
puppetmaster	I installed kubuntu on ubuntu	06:01
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puppetmaster	when i press logout nothing comeup unless logout option	06:01
puppetmaster	how do i show the shutdown & restart option	06:02
dwidmann	hitmanWilly: That's funny.	06:02
hitmanWilly	"open office spellcheck has found 152,978 spelling errors"	06:02
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hitmanWilly	"now checking page 2"	06:02
word	puppetmaster: just a shot in the dark here but...maybe you don't have the permissions to shutdown? o.O	06:02
intelikey	well of all the farf-ig-nugen in a box...	06:02
dwidmann	puppetmaster, you must have started X with startx instead of through kdm or gdm?	06:02
puppetmaster	anyone help me please	06:02
puppetmaster	so, what should i do???	06:03
dwidmann	puppetmaster: log out, then if you need to shutdown, use "sudo shutdown -h now", if you want to reboot, use "sudo reboot"	06:03
puppetmaster	I know that	06:03
word	puppetmaster: hmm...not sure...is there any specific reason you want to have both?	06:03
DaSkreech	kyah2004: Sorted?	06:04
puppetmaster	what should i do to show the buttons	06:04
intelikey	puppetmaster yes that a setting kcontrol and login screen i think is the place to change it.	06:04
puppetmaster	??	06:04
word	puppetmaster: intelikey is your saviour	06:04
dwidmann	DaSkreech: last I check kyah2004 was having trouble fetching the file from Adobe's site, haven't heard from kyah2004 in a while though	06:04
intelikey	word i don't even run a gui	06:04
DaSkreech	ok	06:04
word	just keep saying kyah2004's name and maybe kyah2004 will come back	06:05
intelikey	only works if kyah2004 is still around tho	06:05
hitmanWilly	word: it works better if you say kyah2004's name on seperate lines	06:05
hitmanWilly	such as kyah2004, please	06:05
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hitmanWilly	come back kyah2004	06:06
hitmanWilly	:)	06:06
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tinyx	hey	06:06
intelikey	or in pm	06:06
tinyx	how do I use my webcam with ubuntu?	06:06
tinyx	or kubuntu	06:06
intelikey	tinyx i give up how ?	06:06
tinyx	Like what program do I use to record videos?	06:06
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intelikey	oh	06:06
tinyx	like what is a good video editing program for kubuntu?	06:06
intelikey	!webcam	06:07
ubotu	Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras	06:07
dwidmann	tinyx: I think kino, cinelerra, and kdenlive are the only video editors I've heard about, dunno how good they are (or aren't) though	06:07
eljefe	tinyx: KDEnlive but you have to go to the website to get it, and its still young	06:07
tinyx	Is there anything like "Windows Movie Maker"?	06:08
intelikey	i think they already answerd that	06:08
intelikey	e	06:08
tinyx	I mean, are those programs like that?	06:08
hitmanWilly	tinyx: i think cinerella is the closest you'll find	06:08
eljefe	KDEnlive is great; kino is good at capture but thats about it; cinelerra is difficult in my opinion; Jahshaka is decent but a bit confusing; MainActor is pretty good but needs Intel-brand hardware or it crashes (and its closed source and costs money)	06:09
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eljefe	tinyx: nothing that simple that i know of :( KDEnlive is pretty easy though, if you know what "cutting footage" and 'making clips on a timeline" mean	06:09
tinyx	yes i know those	06:10
intelikey	that's just how it is. you get what you pay for. if you pay for software your not free...	06:10
tinyx	what is KDEnlive's website?	06:10
eljefe	tinyx: i think that you'll figure them out then	06:10
eljefe	www.google.com ;)\	06:10
intelikey	eljefe .	06:10
eljefe	intelikey: how'd the fan turn out?	06:10
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tinyx	haha alright	06:10
tinyx	bbiab	06:11
intelikey	eljefe it's dead.	06:11
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eljefe	oh no... but you're running... another computer?	06:11
intelikey	"""<eljefe> www.google.com ;)\""" <<<< only that.	06:11
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eljefe	ah... lol yeah. ok, i guess, but if the asker has to go to the web anyway...	06:11
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intelikey	no same one. i pulled that fan and set a case fan in front of the heat sync	06:12
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dwidmann	Okay, 22 hours of consciousness is enough for me for a day. I think I'm goint to go sleep, maybe I'll even get up tomorrow ... afternoon	06:12
eljefe	haha good start...	06:12
masterk	is there a process manager?	06:12
Minataku	eljefe... the PLA eljefe?	06:12
eljefe	masterk: in KDE, hit [ctrl] [esc]	06:12
dwidmann	masterk: ctrl + esc	06:12
intelikey	eljefe yeah i know. and often i what to tell idiots off but the whole idea is to help not just make them mad enough to shut up....	06:13
eljefe	Minataku: um sorry, not sure what PLA means, so probably not him/me...	06:13
Minataku	Ah	06:13
Minataku	Sorry, then	06:13
DaSkreech	word: You have to look in the mirror and say his name three times	06:13
eljefe	lol no problem mate	06:13
Minataku	It's "Phone Losers of America", btw	06:13
DaSkreech	word: preferably in the bathroom	06:13
eljefe	ah	06:13
masterk	it says theres another adept running when i try to run adept	06:13
masterk	but i don't see one...	06:13
eljefe	well glad that i'm not him i think!	06:13
masterk	i only see adept notify	06:14
intelikey	!adaptcrashfix \| masterk	06:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about adaptcrashfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:14
intelikey	!adeptcrashfix \| masterk	06:14
ubotu	masterk: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	06:14
eljefe	does anyone know how to add video files to an iPod running Apple's firmware?	06:15
DaSkreech	I know that I can kill a user's terminal session by killing the bash pid	06:17
DaSkreech	how do I do that for an X session ?	06:17
intelikey	kill x ?	06:17
masterk	ok i did that... and now it froze...	06:17
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DaSkreech	intelikey: Little less drastic?	06:18
tinyx	how do I install KDEnlive?	06:18
intelikey	DaSkreech kill their DE	06:18
tinyx	The installation guide.. is in, french.	06:18
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DaSkreech	killall kdeinit ?	06:19
intelikey	DaSkreech something along the line of killall gnome-session	06:19
intelikey	yeah that ^	06:19
eljefe	tinyx: heres a repository link http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/index.html	06:19
masterk	how do i kill processes?	06:19
intelikey	DaSkreech note that if more than one session exists you get them all that way	06:19
masterk	it says i have insufficient...	06:20
DaSkreech	Yeah I realize	06:20
DaSkreech	I'd have to find one owned by said offender?	06:20
eljefe	masterk: either right-click in the [ctrl] [esc] window and pick SIGKILL (or just click it, and then click [Kill] ...	06:20
intelikey	masterk sudo killall <name> <name> can be obtained from ps ax	06:20
intelikey	DaSkreech there might be a betterway with fuser -k	06:21
intelikey	i haven't really played with that very much.	06:21
eljefe	masterk: or fin out its PID (Process ID) and go to a command line and type 'kill -9 <pid#>' or 'sudo kill -9 <pid#>' (sudo is for those nasty ones but its the root account, make sure that you know what you're killing)	06:21
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wolferine	I have apache 2 and php5 installed, but my php isnt working	06:22
wolferine	where should I start to look?	06:22
intelikey	eljefe yes. but that is process specific and may not work like the new user expects. specally when trying to kill the parrent of a process and wondering why the thing just [defunct] on them.	06:22
intelikey	!lamp \| wolferine ?	06:23
ubotu	wolferine ?: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	06:23
eljefe	intelikey: true enough, good thinks.	06:24
wolferine	intelikey, that link has absolutely nothing to do with helping me	06:24
intelikey	wolferine has to do with the instalation/setup of php does it not ?	06:24
eljefe	does anyone know how to add video files to an iPod running Apple's firmware?	06:25
masterk	FUDGE! adept keeps freezing ever since I tried to install jre and it got locked because that froze	06:26
Jucato	!adeptfix \| masterk	06:26
ubotu	masterk: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	06:26
DaSkreech	masterk: install java in the command line	06:26
eljefe	masterk: once you unlock adept/apt/dpkg the first thing you should do is try to remove jre... then try to reinstall or install-something or whatever	06:26
wolferine	anyone willing to help me get php5 to work with apache2 (I had a previous apache install -- which is the reason for the issue) ?	06:27
eljefe	masterk: yes at the command line you'll be much better able to answer the licensing questions	06:27
eljefe	sorry wolferine i don't know	06:27
intelikey	wolferine can you not go to the page and look at the "trubble shooting" php 5 section ?	06:28
wolferine	intelikey, ill wait for someone else to help me, thanks	06:28
intelikey	you're welcome.	06:28
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intelikey	wolferine and you do have "libapache2-mod-php5" installed ?	06:29
wolferine	intelikey, as I said, ill wait for someone else, thank you	06:29
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intelikey	as you wish.	06:30
masterk	when I try to get build-essential and the others in adept it says there was a problem downloading the packages or it might break something...	06:31
DaSkreech	dwidmann: apparently he had to download it on a windows machine	06:31
intelikey	masterk can you show the exact error ?	06:32
masterk	There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.	06:33
intelikey	masterk sudo apt-get install build-essential and see if it's more forthcomming with info	06:33
intelikey	close adept first ^	06:33
masterk	sudo apt-get install build-essential	06:34
masterk	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)	06:34
masterk	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?	06:34
intelikey	close adept first ^	06:34
masterk	oh... silly me?	06:34
Jucato	silly adept :)	06:34
intelikey	silly smily	06:35
masterk	sexy~ it seems to be working	06:35
DaSkreech	Yes?	06:35
eljefe	tinyx: PiTiVi is also an easy video editor and it is in ubuntu's repositories	06:35
DaSkreech	Someone called?	06:35
Jucato	DaSkreech: you're nickname is "silly"?	06:36
intelikey	we caught it the first time DaSkreech just didn't laugh	06:36
eljefe	DaSkreech: pah-leeese	06:36
DaSkreech	Sexy with a tilde :0	06:36
eljefe	lol	06:36
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lnxkde	hey	06:36
masterk	wth its installing java re too?	06:36
lnxkde	I need to launch a command before X and KDM	06:36
lnxkde	were should I put it?	06:36
intelikey	upstart ?	06:37
masterk	how do I change my name to a different color in irc lol	06:37
lnxkde	intelikey: upstart ?	06:37
intelikey	idk /etc/rcS.d/S99yourscript.sh	06:37
lnxkde	I just want to load a special modulo	06:38
lnxkde	I want to put	06:38
lnxkde	modprobe -i module	06:38
intelikey	masterk in the menu ?	06:38
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eljefe	masterk: in KDE's Konversation, look in Settings _> Comfigure...	06:39
intelikey	lnxkde then /etc/rcS.d/S99yourscript.sh should work... but adding the module name to /etc/modules should work alos	06:39
intelikey	also	06:39
Jucato	masterk: it means that it wasn't finished installing jre, which would be why Adept was acting up	06:39
masterk	there we go	06:39
lnxkde	intelikey: how was I started a script?	06:40
masterk	my manly colored name	06:40
Minataku	Heya, Jucato	06:40
lnxkde	#/bin/bash or /bin/bash	06:40
Jucato	hi Minataku	06:40
kane_	anyone have any idea how to get the " X Int10 " server module for Xorg?	06:40
intelikey	lnxkde #!/bin/sh	06:40
Jucato	lnxkde: #!/bin/bash or #!/bin/sh	06:40
Jucato	bah	06:40
Minataku	Jucato: Did you hear? I got a prototype SGI POWER Indigo^2 (IP26) :D	06:41
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DaSkreech	:-)	06:41
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Jucato	Minataku: um.. didn't hear.. don't even know what's that...	06:41
Minataku	Heehee	06:41
intelikey	lnxkde but as i said that's what /etc/modules exists for.	06:41
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masterk	what kind of file should I be looking to use make on?	06:41
masterk	it didn't tell me in the readme	06:41
Jucato	!compile \| masterk	06:41
ubotu	masterk: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)	06:41
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Zeelot	question: do I need to install chipset drivers in linux? o.O	06:41
lnxkde	intelikey: module wont work unless I do the modprobe -i	06:41
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Jucato	2 more corners up for grabs :)	06:42
kyah2004	Daskreech: from one thing to the next. youtibe loads but keeps on freezing when i try to load a flash file	06:42
Jucato	(presuming the room is quadrilateral	06:42
intelikey	lnxkde well the script should work. don't for get to let root own it and make it 700 or at the most 744	06:42
intelikey	not pentagonal ?	06:43
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lnxkde	ohh I was makiing it 755	06:43
lnxkde	:s	06:43
intelikey	lnxkde you don't really want non-root users trying to exec it.	06:44
intelikey	don't even really need them reading.	06:44
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Jucato	700 then? :)	06:44
Jucato	or 740..	06:44
DaSkreech	kyah2004: any other pages work?	06:44
intelikey	yeah 740 is good	06:44
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DaSkreech	ok	06:45
Minataku	Heya, DaSkreech	06:45
kyah2004	let me try	06:45
Minataku	I take it you heard my find :D	06:45
DaSkreech	hiya	06:45
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DaSkreech	Yeah :)	06:46
Minataku	Cool, eh? :3	06:46
DaSkreech	Yeah	06:46
kyah2004	by the way when i type about:plugins this is what is shown	06:46
DaSkreech	what are you going to do with it?	06:46
DaSkreech	!paste	06:46
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:46
Minataku	DaSkreech: Use it	06:46
Minataku	XD	06:46
eljefe	DaSkreech: whats the great plugin find?	06:46
intelikey	yeah man routers/servers are always in season...	06:47
masterk	it says "make: Nothing to be done for `Makefile'." when I try to run make	06:47
lnxkde	brb	06:47
eljefe	Minataku: whats the great plugin find?	06:48
Minataku	??	06:48
intelikey	masterk then it needs a ./configure or something look for all CAPS file names and read.	06:48
eljefe	Minataku: i thought that you and DaSkreech had something good to share, a cool plugin or something	06:48
Minataku	Nah, just my cool computer	06:48
eljefe	ah	06:48
eljefe	lol cool	06:48
DaSkreech	kyah2004: try orisinal.com	06:48
intelikey	eljefe you know. "kid with a new toy" :)	06:49
intelikey	christmas in july, and all the raw.	06:49
intelikey	i'm glad for him. but not as excited as he is.	06:50
lnxkde	time to test	06:50
=== DaSkreech hugs his Vista
Minataku	...	06:50
eljefe	...!	06:50
DaSkreech	Oh wonderful Vista how ever would I live without you	06:50
intelikey	that's just sick.	06:50
Minataku	Even as a joke	06:50
Minataku	That's XXXXXXX wrong	06:51
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eljefe	DaSkreech: this is a family forum, please watch the language	06:51
DaSkreech	So Vista reboots my machine without asking me after installing updates i told it not to	06:51
intelikey	yeah that's it DaSkreech	06:51
DaSkreech	Then it comes back up and tells me it did this in a helpful popup	06:51
DaSkreech	Then it pops up a "solutions" bubble	06:51
intelikey	now you're telling it like it is.	06:51
DaSkreech	apparently the issue with my machine is firefox	06:51
Kite_DH	intelikey: sick, indeed	06:51
kyah2004	Daskreech: yeh website loads	06:52
Minataku	"I know better than you, because you're obviously too stupid to do anything since you spent $400 on me"	06:52
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DaSkreech	kyah2004: as does the flash?	06:52
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kyah2004	yeh but now firefore has frozen again	06:52
Minataku	Come to think of it, DaSkreech... why WERE you so stupid that you bought Vista?	06:52
intelikey	Kite_DH ok, i was over dramatic. i'll tone down.	06:52
masterk	!paste	06:53
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:53
Minataku	Heehee, sorry, DaSkreech	06:53
kyah2004	Daskreech: yeh but now firefox has frozen again	06:53
Minataku	But seriously... why? XD	06:53
DaSkreech	Minataku: came with the new computer. no choice given	06:53
Minataku	Ah	06:53
Minataku	Call 'em up and tell them you want the refund on the Vista license	06:53
Minataku	That should be a good $100	06:53
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eljefe	anyone know how to change my nickname so that my ISP's IP address isn't tagged to the end?	06:54
DaSkreech	My mom is using it :(	06:54
DaSkreech	It's annoying	06:54
Minataku	DaSkreech: Not anymore she isn't	06:54
eljefe	ouch!	06:54
intelikey	yes. Minataku that's the first i've heard that mentioned in here. we should put that link in the topic. you can get a refund on the M$ crap if you remove it.	06:55
Minataku	Tell her Vista is evil and it will rape you in your sleep (You as in DaSkreech... hit on the motherly protective instinct XD )	06:55
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masterk	can someone take a look at this	06:55
masterk	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21791/	06:55
Jucato	eljefe: you will have to ask freenode staffers for an IRC cloak	06:55
eljefe	Jucato: really? is that a pain?	06:56
Minataku	I remember doing that... I personally asked lilo for mine... ;~;	06:56
Minataku	He gave it to me, too ;o;	06:56
Jucato	eljefe: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks	06:56
eljefe	thanks	06:56
intelikey	yeah lilo was top notch	06:56
masterk	Minataku do you like anime?	06:56
Minataku	masterk: Yes	06:56
masterk	you makie lots of anime emotes minataku	06:57
kyah2004	Daskreech: would not installing drivers ffor my monitor cause firefox to crash so often when running flash	06:57
Minataku	My computer naming system is anime characters XD	06:57
DaSkreech	no	06:57
masterk	so can someone look at that portion of the readme for me?	06:57
masterk	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21791/	06:57
DaSkreech	that would cause the monitor to crash	06:57
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DaSkreech	kyah2004: hey. actually the #ubuntu would probably have more help with firefox	06:58
DaSkreech	most people here use konqueror	06:58
Minataku	intelikey: Yeah, I used to PM him once in a while and talk with him for a bit	06:58
kyah2004	oh zeen	06:59
Minataku	Heh	06:59
eljefe	DaSkreech: not so sure about that, konq has its benefits but so does Firefox	06:59
Minataku	I don't even use Kubuntu or any variant of Ubuntu XD	06:59
DaSkreech	kyah2004: you can type /join #ubuntu here	06:59
DaSkreech	You can be in both at the same time	06:59
kyah2004	ok cool	06:59
eljefe	Minataku: is this just a fun place to hang out, or what? ;)	06:59
DaSkreech	eljefe: yeah but crashing as soon as flash loads is one the Firefox seems to hold	07:00
Minataku	eljefe: I like to help people	07:00
eljefe	kyah2004: look for the connections on the left (of Konversation) to pick which you want to 'be' in	07:00
Minataku	Of course I often tend to confuse the crap out of them in here XD	07:00
eljefe	lol	07:00
intelikey	masterk ok what hangs ? you are in the dir ?	07:01
kyah2004	eljefa: i only see #kubuntu	07:01
Minataku	Being a Gentoo user will cause that XD	07:01
eljefe	ok folks its time for me to sleep. good evening (or whatever time you have)	07:01
eljefe	kyah2004: did you type /join ubuntu ?	07:01
kyah2004	oh zeen thanks	07:01
eljefe	zeen?	07:01
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intelikey	masterk you run make ?	07:02
intelikey	masterk ?	07:02
masterk	i run make on makefile and it says "make: Nothing to be done for `Makefile'." intelikey sorry I was doing laundry	07:03
intelikey	eljefe i don't know if i fully answered you eariler. i pulled the cpu fan and stood a case fan dirrected at the heat sync for a temp fix.	07:04
intelikey	masterk ok you are in the ibm-acpi* dir ?	07:04
masterk	yes	07:04
intelikey	ok ls \| grep -ie make	07:05
masterk	~/acpi/ibm-acpi-0.11$ ls \| grep -ie make	07:05
masterk	Makefile	07:05
masterk	Makefile~	07:05
intelikey	you have exited the makefile ?	07:06
intelikey	edited	07:06
masterk	no	07:06
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intelikey	you have build-essential installed ?	07:06
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kane_	Is there anyway to work around the issues with fiesty and TV outs with nvidia?	07:07
masterk	yes	07:07
intelikey	hmmm ok. masterk what url did you dl that from, let me give it a look see.	07:08
intelikey	?	07:09
masterk	http://ibm-acpi.sourceforge.net/	07:09
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intelikey	k give me a few.	07:10
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masterk	i got that from here: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_ACPI_work I am trying to make standby work	07:13
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kyah2004	Daaskreech: which location do i copy thesee plugins for konqueror to work with flash	07:13
masterk	i got that from here: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_ACPI_work I am trying to make standby work intelikey	07:13
DaSkreech	!flash \| kyah2004	07:14
ubotu	kyah2004: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	07:14
DaSkreech	that page should sort you out with konqueror	07:14
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kyah2004	Daskreech: cool thanks	07:15
DaSkreech	no prob	07:15
wolferine	anyone willing to help me get php5 to work with apache2 (I had a previous apache install -- which is the reason for the issue) ? -- I also had this same issue occur at work, I had to format my system to get it to work...	07:16
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DaSkreech	!php	07:17
ubotu	LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	07:17
wolferine	btw, looking for someone who really knows what they are doing	07:18
DaSkreech	wolferine: asked in #php ?	07:19
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wolferine	its a ubuntu/apache issue	07:19
intelikey	masterk i don't see anything wrong there. i'm using dapper so i can't fully test it but it seems to make ok for me. maybe you got a bumb package ? idk.	07:19
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intelikey	masterk i can't duplicate the error so i can't really trubble shoot it.	07:20
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wolferine	how do you perform complete removal (dependencies, all files in each dir, etc..) ?	07:21
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wolferine	from cli	07:21
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DaSkreech	sudo apt-get remove <package> --purge	07:21
DaSkreech	!purge	07:21
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:21
masterk	well maybe you can help me get standby to work?	07:21
masterk	well maybe you can help me get standby to work? intelikey	07:22
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wolferine	wouldn't aptitude be more suited for a complete removal?	07:22
intelikey	masterk prolly not. but that's not kde specific. if no one pipes up in here you can ask in /join #ubuntu about that.	07:22
DaSkreech	wolferine: sure	07:22
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intelikey	masterk i've never actually messed with standby/suspend no lappy with a need for that.	07:23
ejupin	Can't start KDE, I can only log into Gnome., something corrupted? Is there a fix?	07:23
wolferine	so what would I do then DaSkreech ?	07:23
DaSkreech	aptitude remove <package> --purge I would guess	07:24
masterk	ah dam	07:24
intelikey	ejupin maybe chown `whoami` -R ~/.kde	07:24
wolferine	so you have no idea then?	07:24
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ubuntu	hi	07:24
ubuntu	how can i mount a writing floppy disk	07:24
ejupin	intelikey: I can do that from a terminal here in Gnome?	07:24
ubuntu	?	07:25
intelikey	ejupin yes	07:25
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intelikey	ejupin and sudo it.	07:25
ejupin	thanks	07:25
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intelikey	brecha sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media -o umask=000	07:25
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brecha	i tried 'sudo mount -t vfat -w /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy'	07:26
brecha	ok	07:26
brecha	let me try it...	07:26
DaSkreech	wolferine: a quick man aptitude search for purge should get you sorted right quick	07:26
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intelikey	and mountpoint is at your discression	07:26
wolferine	well, there is no --purge for aptitude	07:26
wolferine	if you dont know the answer DaSkreech, do you mind not answering...	07:26
DaSkreech	I did till you started talking about aptitude. not my app	07:27
DaSkreech	I do knwo how to use a man page though	07:27
DaSkreech	I suggest you learn as well	07:27
DaSkreech	saves you years	07:27
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intelikey	:)	07:27
wolferine	DaSkreech, i think I know enough about "how to use a man page", please dont be insulting	07:28
DaSkreech	karma is wonderful my friend :)	07:28
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wolferine	how do you perform complete removal (dependencies, all files in each dir, etc..) ?	07:29
intelikey	you say karma, i say reaping what you sow. you say ****** you. i say bless you....	07:29
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DaSkreech	intelikey: I've heard of this rm -rf thing.. how does that work?	07:29
intelikey	DaSkreech ahhhh i think you have to be root.	07:30
intelikey	:)	07:30
brecha	<intelikey> brecha sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media -o umask=000--->> i made this.. i cannot even see the files in the floppy.. an it steel... read only..	07:30
intelikey	brecha mountpoint "/media" -vs- "/mnt/floppy"	07:31
intelikey	repost to brecha <intelikey> and mountpoint is at your discression	07:31
Captain_Haddock	wolferine: apt-get remove --purge probably	07:31
brecha	now.. im good with that	07:31
brecha	thanks	07:31
intelikey	np	07:31
wolferine	Captain_Haddock, so your not sure?	07:32
wolferine	--purge	07:32
wolferine	Use purge instead of remove for anything that would be removed. An	07:32
wolferine	asterisk ("*") will be displayed next to packages which are	07:32
wolferine	scheduled to be purged. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Purge.	07:32
wolferine	hmm, thats helpful	07:33
Jucato	!paste \| wolferine	07:33
ubotu	wolferine: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	07:33
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tulga	howto install RestrictedDriversManager?	07:33
wolferine	Jucato, how about you help instead?	07:33
tulga	wiki not working	07:33
DaSkreech	Damn it we lost again!	07:33
tmbg	wolferine, how about you not piss off 200 people	07:34
Captain_Haddock	Anybody fancy helping me sort out Samba authentication issues?	07:34
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Jucato	wolferine: there's not reason for you to flood the channel	07:34
intelikey	or 360 people even	07:34
wolferine	flood	07:34
tulga	howto install RestrictedDriversManager?	07:34
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wolferine	Jucato, did I hurt your eyes?	07:34
Captain_Haddock	wolferine: play nice or don't play at all.	07:35
wolferine	i have a question, no one has an answer	07:35
Captain_Haddock	Time to move on then.	07:35
wolferine	im just bored with your "wasting my time" chit chat	07:35
intelikey	tulga i can't find any such package ? search the packagemanager for what you are refering tooo	07:35
Jucato	!info restricted-manager	07:35
ubotu	restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB	07:35
intelikey	there ya go. ^	07:36
Jucato	tulga: it's very dependent on GNOME	07:36
tulga	okey	07:36
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intelikey	yes and what Jucato is saying does not mean you can't use it in kubuntu. just that it will require a lot of gnome libs and packages.	07:37
brecha	wich kind of HD is an serial ata drive??	07:37
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brecha	i mean if im trying to mount it	07:37
tulga	I want install beryl on KDE. but I need install ATI driver	07:37
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intelikey	brecha in the later live CD all are sd? for scsi emulation is in use.	07:38
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intelikey	brecha and cat /proc/partitions	07:39
intelikey	should give you info so you can find/identify the partitions you want.	07:39
masterk_	crap when I tried suspend it only made me unable to get out of suspend without taking out the battery and unpliugging thae laptop...	07:39
brecha	thanks again	07:39
brecha	:P	07:39
wolferine	whose responsible for setting up .deb packages on each of the sites? (in sources.list)	07:40
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intelikey	masterk_ ohhh yuch. ;{	07:40
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tulga	my feisty cannot restart. where is problem?	07:42
brecha	thanks for the heko	07:42
brecha	help	07:42
brecha	bye	07:42
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intelikey	tulga can you define "cannot restart" please?	07:44
masterk_	my dad is in the kitchen writing in a notebook and sniffeling while looking at his and my moms wedding... >.>	07:44
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tulga	intelikey: when I click restart, my computer's all hardware stopped. but cannot start	07:45
Ayabara	I want to connect my Inspiron laptop with ati m300 graphics to an lcd-tv using vga. Can I expect this to work out of the box?	07:45
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intelikey	tulga hmmm ok. there is one thing i read on that issue, you might want to check into it; that the kernel is compiled for one (most common) type of bios call for halt and reboot. but that another call is used on some bios'. perhaps that could be why. there is also on some occations that one process does not stop correctly and the kernel is simply waiting for it's return signal... that i know nothing about really	07:47
tulga	ok. I think latest thing too	07:48
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epimeth	and a good morning to all	07:48
intelikey	right back at ya epimeth	07:49
intelikey	or leroy :)	07:49
epimeth	oh no! the secret is out!	07:49
epimeth	:-)	07:49
epimeth	garr	07:49
epimeth	my kubuntu is buggy as all hell	07:50
epimeth	amarok's gui won't start half the time	07:50
intelikey	epimeth latest version i suppose ?	07:50
epimeth	and now the server list isn't closing	07:50
epimeth	yup	07:50
epimeth	fully upgraded except for hal	07:50
epimeth	and why are there two konqueror's open? geez...	07:51
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DaSkreech	Yeah feisty is a pain	07:51
intelikey	maybe you can upgrade to the next prerelease ?	07:51
epimeth	lol	07:51
epimeth	sure	07:52
epimeth	lets get as much buggy software on my work box as possible	07:52
epimeth	brb	07:52
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epimeth	I think part of the problem is beryl, actually....	07:53
DaSkreech	sure just cause you have exotic pets ;-P	07:53
epimeth	but thats only when beryl is actually running	07:53
DaSkreech	I get Bambi	07:53
intelikey	i was complaining this morning that there was nothing broken and asking if i should upgrade to remidy that....	07:53
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service	hi there. can i find out what audio card i have without having to dissasemble the computer?	07:53
Ayabara	how can prevent stuff like knetworkmanager and "power manager" from showing in the system tray?	07:53
epimeth	service: depends.... look at the output of lspci	07:53
epimeth	Ayabara: prevent from showing, or not run?	07:54
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Ayabara	epimeth: prevent from showing	07:54
intelikey	oh never mind.	07:54
intelikey	Ayabara you can have them auto hide	07:54
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Ayabara	epimeth: the tray get's awfully cluttered after a while	07:54
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wolferine	how can I check if apache/apache-perl/apache2 are installed? from cli	07:55
service	doesn't say what it is	07:55
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service	is there any audio driver in kubuntu that works for any audio card?	07:55
epimeth	Ayabara: I dunno, actually... thats a good question	07:55
intelikey	epimeth 'him' the deer in the movie. but she the girl next door in real life.	07:56
tulga	howto add beryl-manager to startup?	07:56
epimeth	service: you got that backwords... "do I have an audio card that works with generic sound drivers?	07:56
tulga	where is startup?	07:56
epimeth	~/.kde/Autostart	07:56
service	haha	07:56
epimeth	tulga: ?^	07:56
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tulga	copy to Autostart folder?	07:57
epimeth	tulga: no, symlink	07:57
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epimeth	tulga: $man ln	07:57
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tulga	ok thanks	07:57
epimeth	tulga: specifically, ln -s TARGET LINK_NAME	07:57
intelikey	and path.	07:58
epimeth	tulga: you can call it anything, but I'd suggest something meaningful :-)	07:58
tulga	ok	07:58
epimeth	intelikey: awww... unrequieted love?	07:58
tulga	today I received 3 Kubuntu CDs. very happy day	07:58
intelikey	not at all. just an observation.	07:59
Jezz_X	3 ?	07:59
tulga	yes	07:59
epimeth	intelikey: so whats the deal with exotic pets?	07:59
intelikey	tulga ln -s /usr/bin/beryl ~/.kde/Autostart/$RANDOM	07:59
intelikey	epimeth idk you brought that up...	08:00
tulga	yes. I do it	08:00
tulga	but beryl not working :(	08:00
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intelikey	tulga should start when you login	08:01
tulga	yes, I restarted	08:01
intelikey	have you loged out and back in ?	08:01
intelikey	ok.	08:01
tulga	yes. beryl cannot select Beryl window manager	08:01
tulga	it automatically select Kwin	08:01
epimeth	isn't it bery-manager ?	08:01
intelikey	can you run it in a konsole ?	08:01
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intelikey	epimeth prolly is. i'm not a gui guy	08:02
tulga	Checking for Xcomposite extension : failed	08:02
intelikey	ok there it is.	08:02
epimeth	intelikey: I brought up exotic pets?	08:02
intelikey	!ati \| tulga	08:02
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tulga	glxinfo \| grep direct	08:03
ubotu	tulga: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:03
tulga	direct rendering is yes	08:03
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intelikey	do the nvidia-config ?	08:04
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tulga	ATI	08:04
tulga	X600	08:04
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intelikey	epimeth no it was DaSkreech that brought up exotic pets. sorry	08:05
intelikey	ok. then i don't guess i know why.	08:05
intelikey	@ tulga	08:05
intelikey	tulga you can ask in #ubuntu-effects	08:06
tulga	ok	08:06
intelikey	!beryl	08:06
ubotu	Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects	08:06
oldwest	hi	08:08
epimeth	tulga: I'd also suggest a google search for beryl and the error you are getting	08:08
intelikey	i kinda wish my nvidia card was supported...	08:08
intelikey	oldwest	08:09
oldwest	hay whatz cook'n?	08:09
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oldwest	sunday evening rest time	08:10
intelikey	steaks and 'taters green beans and biscuts	08:10
intelikey	come on over and bring the young'ens	08:10
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oldwest	can't remember how to change time format - anyone?	08:10
intelikey	oldwest right click the clock and configure	08:11
oldwest	funny	08:11
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oldwest	sounds great	08:11
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intelikey	it's in the locals/lang & formats section i think	08:12
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intelikey	i kinda lost interest in kde when it defaulted to changing the first day of the weak to monday, which it's not.	08:13
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RawSewage	lol	08:13
oldwest	intel - changed to pacific - la - but still military - need to restart session?	08:14
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intelikey	oldwest no it's in the same config but it's a different section	08:14
oldwest	hmmmm.... look again	08:15
intelikey	oldwest i don't have kde so i can't give exact names. but something to do with language	08:15
wolferine	when I do a dpkg -L \| grep package, some are listed as 'rc' not 'ii', what does that mean?	08:15
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intelikey	that's where you select 12/24 hour	08:15
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intelikey	and which day is first day of the weak, and the date format... all that stuff	08:15
oldwest	yup i finally found it & said i had to reboot session - will make a note this time git'n fergetful ya know	08:17
oldwest	:o)	08:17
intelikey	:)	08:17
intelikey	yes i knew when you found it you would get it all streight.	08:17
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oldwest	intel - you use gnome?	08:18
intelikey	no	08:18
intelikey	i use blackbox "when i use a gui"	08:18
intelikey	which is not often.	08:18
oldwest	you said no kde - what desktop u like?	08:18
intelikey	blackbox ^	08:19
intelikey	fluxbox is a fork of blackbox	08:19
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oldwest	oh ok i looked at that a couple reloads back - it looks pretty kool - this load is a work in progress ....	08:19
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intelikey	yeah it's not "feature rich" but it's real light.	08:20
oldwest	by end of week will have blkbx & maybe gnome or sumthin else to try out	08:20
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intelikey	i have learned to edit the style's if i want to, and it's menu is flexable. seeing that i don't like icons anyway it's like it was talour made for me.	08:21
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oldwest	runn'n a hotrod dual core w/2gigs ram - was evaling vista & scrubbed it	08:21
oldwest	runs great w/linux	08:21
intelikey	:)	08:22
oldwest	this is so much more stable	08:22
intelikey	i'm running a cold rod p1 with 64m ram so light is the name of the game for me.	08:22
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oldwest	thats a capital P-/I fpr pentium - I w/64 right?	08:23
intelikey	pentium one 100 mhz mmx cpu with 64mb ram.	08:24
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oldwest	howse it run unbuntu w/blkbox - pretty good?	08:24
kronoman	hello	08:25
intelikey	yeah real good imo	08:25
kronoman	any other music player for KDE, besides amarok?	08:25
kronoman	must be a music player, not music manager	08:25
kronoman	I just want to hear the music, not manage it	08:25
intelikey	vlc	08:25
Cruzader	xmms? does that count?	08:25
oldwest	wow havn't seen one of those in awhile - great!	08:25
kronoman	I already have xmms and it hangs sometimes	08:25
kronoman	some KDE native?	08:25
wolferine	when I do a dpkg -L \| grep package, some are listed as 'rc' not 'ii', what does that mean?	08:26
intelikey	kronoman if you are for real about the "must be a music player, not music manager" sox	08:26
intelikey	it's not kde it's CLI	08:26
RawSewage	theres Audacious	08:26
intelikey	totem	08:26
RawSewage	Totem is GNOME	08:27
intelikey	k something .... ah let me look	08:27
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RawSewage	but for something like WinAmp, try Audacious	08:27
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intelikey	kaboodle - light, embedded media player for KDE	08:27
kronoman	ok, I'm checking them	08:27
intelikey	that's what i was thinking of.	08:27
kronoman	audacious, kaboodle	08:27
kronoman	I will use them a few days to decide which one I like most	08:28
kronoman	Amarok was using ~50 % cpu on my modest machine to play mp3s	08:28
Zabulus	alright, need help, just installed feisty, and my mouse randomly locks up	08:28
intelikey	kronoman but do give VLC a shoot	08:28
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intelikey	shot	08:28
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intelikey	next word would get me in trubble.	08:28
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kronoman	vlc looks nice, but adds video functionality	08:30
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Zabulus	...	08:30
intelikey	yes it does both audio and vidio	08:30
Zabulus	well, that was fun	08:30
intelikey	kronoman and handles most formats without any help/codecs	08:31
Zabulus	ok, apparently im not allowed to use adept...	08:31
intelikey	Zabulus open a konsole and type sudo echo yes	08:31
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Zabulus	ummmm, my mouse froze, how do i get to it from keyboard?	08:32
intelikey	alt+f2 konsole	08:32
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Zabulus	ok...what did that do?	08:32
intelikey	did it say yes ?	08:33
Zabulus	yeah	08:33
Zabulus	now what?	08:33
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intelikey	then the sudoers file is ok and you are in the admin group. so you are root jr.	08:34
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intelikey	!adeptcrashfix	08:34
ubotu	If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	08:34
intelikey	type in sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;sudo dpkg --configure -a	08:34
intelikey	then adept should work for you.	08:35
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intelikey	what exactly are you trying to install ?	08:35
intelikey	if i may be so bold.	08:35
Zabulus	trying to get amarok to play mp3's	08:35
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wolferine	!bug	08:36
intelikey	!mp3	08:36
ubotu	If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots	08:36
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	08:36
Zabulus	soo, anyone know anything about the mouse freezing?	08:37
intelikey	usb mouse ?	08:37
Zabulus	yep	08:37
Zabulus	it works for a little, then freezes	08:37
intelikey	try unplug/replug ?	08:37
intelikey	hmmm that sounds buggy.	08:38
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intelikey	maybe you should also check dmesg and tail /var/log/xorg.* or is it Xorg.* ??	08:39
KevinAlaska	Hello Everyone! :) Hoping someone here might be able to point me in the correct direction to fix a USB HDD connection issue that uses 'NTFS Config' program?	08:39
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intelikey	prolly not useful to you but the bot has a listing.	08:41
intelikey	!ntfs	08:41
ubotu	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse	08:41
Zabulus	well, unplug replug didnt work, cant see much in konsole using dmesg	08:42
intelikey	you can page up not that it will help.	08:42
intelikey	in konsole i mean	08:43
KevinAlaska	microsofts HDD format stands for New Technology File System (from what I read) anyhow.. in media all I get now (worked last night) is a file folder icon in KDE (feisty) and from there it reads there is full empty drive. but when you move it to my wifes WinXP computer it comes up.	08:43
michael__	is there a konsole cmomand to install deb's	08:43
michael__	?	08:43
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intelikey	michael__ three or four	08:44
michael__	might i have one :D?	08:44
michael__	i usually right click and click install but im just wondering	08:44
KevinAlaska	Loading the link now ubotu.. thanks for the link I will check it out. I will try to multitask. :P	08:44
intelikey	michael__ apt-get install package-name aptitude dselect and dpkg to round out the list	08:44
michael__	ah, thanks	08:45
intelikey	michael__ if the deb is local dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb	08:45
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michael__	okay thx	08:45
intelikey	michael__ and for all the above you need root perms. sudo them	08:45
michael__	yeh	08:45
intelikey	!dpkg	08:46
ubotu	dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.	08:46
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intelikey	ok i'm ready for the releaf pitcher. who can help these newcommers while i snooze ?	08:48
Ichilegend	Wassup?	08:48
intelikey	come on don't be shy	08:48
wolferine	i will	08:48
RawSewage	I dont like helping people	08:48
Ichilegend	Here 4 u intelikey	08:48
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RawSewage	It makes me break out	08:48
KevinAlaska	heh.. poor intelikey.. duty is strong. :)	08:48
intelikey	ok thanks guy. and good night.	08:48
Ichilegend	;)	08:49
wolferine	guy?	08:49
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KevinAlaska	sleep well intelikey	08:49
KevinAlaska	doh.. to late	08:49
epimeth	intellikey is jewish?	08:50
epimeth	awesome... I'm not alone! :-)	08:50
Ichilegend	Mazeltov	08:50
epimeth	luck has nothing to do with it! :-p	08:51
Ichilegend	lol	08:51
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epimeth	and its mazal, not mazel :-)	08:51
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Ichilegend	not jewish, just wishing you both well	08:51
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epimeth	I'm just trying to teach you the proper terminology	08:52
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Ichilegend	I have been learned	08:52
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insmod	anyone know why forward never works with e-mail in mozilla or thunderbird etc ?	08:53
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Ichilegend	I am sure it works at least some times or it would not be a "feature"	08:53
epimeth	coughbugcough	08:54
insmod	Ichilegend: nope on every distro in 11 yrs no	08:54
epimeth	actually, I've never used thunderbird so I wouldn't know	08:54
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insmod	Ichilegend: i just sends new reply not previous pics or messages	08:54
epimeth	there any way to run javascript from the command line?	08:54
insmod	it	08:55
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epimeth	you sure it doesn't send it as an attachment?	08:55
insmod	epimeth: nope	08:55
Cruzader	epimeth: sudo apt-get install js (i believe, if not load up adept and search for javascript)	08:55
Ichilegend	hmm, let me set it up and check	08:55
insmod	epimeth: it is the attachments i want sent	08:55
Ichilegend	you ever use evo;ution?	08:56
Ichilegend	evoution?	08:57
insmod	it only sends a reply not the previouse attachment or message	08:57
epimeth	evolution! away evil gnome fellow!	08:57
epimeth	kmail all the way, baby!	08:57
insmod	Ichilegend: evolution ya -- but it is for the wife	08:57
Ichilegend	lol fair enough, but it is a great package and supports exchange (for those of us in corporate IT)	08:58
epimeth	yea... waiting eagerly for kmail to do so as well	08:58
kraut	moin	08:59
epimeth	when I'll need to connect to exchange I'll have to use evolution :-(	08:59
insmod	Ichilegend: i am a debian guy that runs enligh.. and window maker black box etc -- i put kubuntu on hers because she likes kde	08:59
Ichilegend	ok, installing thinderbird	08:59
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epimeth	in adept, whats with the kubuntu icon between the package and status columns?	09:00
Ichilegend	Oh hells yah, KDE is the cats meyow, but that does not mean there are not a few good gtk apps aout there	09:00
Zabulus	ok, where was i?	09:00
insmod	epimeth: apt-get is the man :)	09:00
epimeth	I agree, but when searching I prefer adept	09:01
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insmod	Ichilegend: gtk-gnutella :)	09:01
Cruzader	epimeth: that means its officially supported by kubuntu IIRC	09:01
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Captain_Haddock	epimeth: you can use synaptic too.. I find adept painstakingly slow.	09:01
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Captain_Haddock	epimeth: Girls? :P	09:01
insmod	lol	09:02
Ichilegend	L O L	09:02
epimeth	adept runs blazingly fast for me... on slower machines I opt for aptitude	09:02
Zabulus	anyone know about any problems with feisty and microsoft mice?	09:02
epimeth	Captain_Haddock: and if I was???? you shouldn't make fun of people's allergies!	09:02
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wolferine	Zabulus, symptoms?	09:02
Captain_Haddock	epimeth: :D	09:02
Zabulus	mouse randomly locks up	09:02
epimeth	sooo... rhino or ngs-js?	09:03
Zabulus	i was asking about it earlier, but i had to go afk and i cant scroll up to look for responses......	09:03
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wolferine	Zabulus, combo, or just the mouse?	09:03
epimeth	Zabulus: you tried a non-ms mouse? my ms optical doesn't give me any problems	09:03
Zabulus	just the mouse	09:04
Zabulus	microsoft laser mouse 6000 v1.0	09:04
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Zabulus	works for a little, then just stops	09:04
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Ichilegend	ok weird shutdown but thunderbird is installed	09:05
wolferine	added it to a currnt install?	09:05
wolferine	or a new install?	09:05
Zabulus	just installed feisty, was using dapper, worked fine with dapper	09:05
Zabulus	went into feisty, tried opening up adept, mouse froze	09:05
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Zabulus	anyone have any ideas?	09:07
insmod	Zabulus: nvidia ? they have had some glx issues in the new one	09:07
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epimeth	soooo... again..... rhino or ngs-js?	09:08
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Zabulus	how do i get it fixed, or dont i?	09:08
insmod	Zabulus: do you have nvidia ? it was a guess	09:09
Zabulus	an nvidia graphics, yes	09:09
Zabulus	but why does that f up the mouse?	09:09
insmod	Zabulus: lol	09:09
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insmod	Zabulus: try disabling glx in xorg if that works then you know	09:10
insmod	Zabulus: 3d accel	09:10
Zabulus	ummm, how do i do that?	09:11
insmod	Zabulus: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and hash out option glx	09:11
monzie	Hi all	09:12
monzie	i am on kubuntu 7.04	09:12
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monzie	how do i enable beryl/compiz on my laptop?	09:12
monzie	i have an ATI Radeon X200	09:12
Zabulus	ok, how do i get xorg.conf open without mouse?	09:12
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insmod	Zabulus: in gui or console ?	09:13
Cruzader	Zabulus: is the only problem that your mouse cursor is invisible?	09:13
Zabulus	no, my cursor is visible, it just wont move	09:13
Cruzader	oh. hehe	09:13
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Cruzader	well you could drop to a text console	09:13
Cruzader	ctrl alt f1	09:13
Zabulus	however i can open the file to edit it without mouse	09:13
insmod	Zabulus: all the time or does it stop ?	09:13
OlliK	Mroning, y'all	09:15
epimeth	OlliK: Mroning to you too!	09:15
KevinAlaska	GOOD Morning! :)	09:15
OlliK	How can I make application to run as a service, or start automatically when computer is started?	09:15
Ichilegend	OK, thunderbird problem, i did not have a problem	09:16
insmod	OlliK: /etc/init.d	09:16
epimeth	OlliK: depends on the app as well	09:16
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OlliK	ventrilo server, and few eggdrop bots	09:16
insmod	OlliK: :P	09:16
monzie	help	09:17
insmod	bugger off	09:17
Zabulus	well, so far feisty is annoying the s*** out of me	09:17
OlliK	I tried to look at System Settings -> Services but can't add any there :/	09:17
monzie	https://wiki.kubuntu.com/BerylOnFeisty?highlight=%28beryl%29 points me to	09:17
monzie	https://wiki.kubuntu.com/RestrictedDriversManager	09:17
monzie	but https://wiki.kubuntu.com/RestrictedDriversManager is empty	09:17
monzie	how do i get my ati driver?	09:17
Ichilegend	add remove the chhose ATI binary	09:18
Ichilegend	then choose	09:18
Cruzader	kubuntu doesnt come with the restricted-drivers-manager	09:18
epimeth	OlliK: so take a look at /etc/rc.d	09:19
KevinAlaska	Bah... getting late for me. have a wonderful day/night everyone.	09:19
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Zabulus	well, my mouse is working, for now	09:20
Cruzader	monzie: go to a console and type sudo apt-get install restricted-manager	09:20
Zabulus	so, how do i get amarok to play mp3 files?	09:20
Ichilegend	I have been recommending to friends to Step 2 install ubuntu, step 2 sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop therefore the get the apps like restricted drivers	09:20
Cruzader	which should download the video driver manager	09:20
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Ichilegend	sorry , step 1 then step 2	09:20
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epimeth	!codec \| Zabulus	09:20
ubotu	Zabulus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	09:20
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insmod	Zabulus: install the package	09:21
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Zabulus	which package?	09:22
insmod	http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=kubuntu+%2B+amarok+%2B+mp3&spell=1	09:22
Zabulus	nvm	09:22
Cruzader	monzie: everything working so far?	09:22
OlliK	I didn't find rc.d from /etc	09:22
monzie	Cruzader: i already had restriced manager	09:22
OlliK	do you mean /etc/init.d/rc.local?	09:22
monzie	Cruzader: i backed up my /etc/X11/xorg.conf	09:22
Cruzader	have you run it?	09:23
monzie	i ran restricted-manager and i checked the ATI tickbox	09:23
Cruzader	ok	09:23
epimeth	OlliK: rcN.d	09:23
epimeth	where N is the runlevel you want	09:23
monzie	Cruzader: not it's installing the driver	09:23
epimeth	those are the scripts that autorun	09:23
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OlliK	epimeth: I have to make a script? I don't know how to do it	09:24
OlliK	epimeth: I was hoping I could just add the path to the executable in some file...	09:24
insmod	epimeth: why help -- that is why i love #linuxhelp we don't help eggdropers	09:24
insmod	OlliK: then learn	09:25
Ichilegend	BTW, thunderbird forward issue worked very well	09:25
epimeth	OlliK: you don't have to write a script, you just create a symlink to the existing script :-)	09:25
insmod	Ichilegend: pictures etc	09:25
epimeth	OlliK: they are symlinks to /etc/init.d	09:26
OlliK	epimeth: yep.. well my program is not located there so I don't know how to do it	09:26
epimeth	insmod: thats not very nice... why do we have to ignore non kubuntu-specific queries?	09:26
insmod	epimeth: what the hell man :P	09:27
OlliK	doesn't Kubuntu have any graphical interface for adding programs to start while starting the system?	09:27
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epimeth	thats for making me think you were serious!	09:27
epimeth	:-p	09:27
insmod	epimeth: as harm to the servers you speek on	09:27
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tyyy	hi all	09:27
tyyy	does anybody know what this is? Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!	09:27
tyyy	xorg.log tells me that	09:27
epimeth	OlliK: then what you want aren't services	09:28
OlliK	insmod: Harm? in what way?	09:28
insmod	epimeth: fuck you i would rather a safe distro	09:28
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epimeth	???	09:28
OlliK	insmod: My eggdrop is in IRCnet and EFnet so I don't think it would affect Freenet servers in any way.. and what's wrong with bots?	09:28
OlliK	epimeth: Yep I guess just a startup would be enough, as long as it doesn't shut down the program when I exit X for example	09:29
epimeth	oh!!! damn.... my bad insmod... I didn't know what he was doing....	09:29
monzie	how do i check for what ports are open in my machine?	09:29
OlliK	epimeth: I told earlier that I'm trying to make ventrilo server and bot to start automatically.. but what's up with the anti-bot attitudes here?	09:29
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epimeth	OlliK: it depends on the bot	09:30
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epimeth	but either way, I really don't know... never dealt with irc servers or bots	09:30
OlliK	epimeth: My bot is purely serving in multiple channels to keep them and share operator status to channel operators.. I don't know what's wrong with that	09:30
OlliK	epimeth: But the issue in general has nothing to do with IRC servers or bots, because it could be just any program that I'm trying to execute automatically while starting Kubuntu	09:31
tyyy	is there anybody who can help me?	09:31
monzie	i have ati drivers installed	09:31
monzie	beryl is installed	09:31
monzie	yet beryl refuses to wrok	09:32
tyyy	monzie	09:32
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tyyy	is aiglx running?	09:32
tyyy	or yet better wich drivers do you use?	09:32
monzie	tyyy: how do i know if aiglx is running"?	09:32
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monzie	tyyy: it does say direct rendering: yes	09:32
tyyy	ok dri is running	09:33
Zabulus	!wine	09:33
ubotu	wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.	09:33
tyyy	is beryl starting up?	09:33
epimeth	OlliK: but thats just it, like I said it depends on the program	09:33
service	can i make a shortcut on the desktop for konsole? but when it starts to make a command	09:33
tyyy	are you runing kubuntu or ubuntu?	09:33
monzie	tyyy: nope	09:33
monzie	tyyy: i have ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop	09:33
OlliK	epimeth: What different options there are for different kind of programs?	09:33
tyyy	do you see the bery manager icon?	09:34
tyyy	beryl	09:34
epimeth	OlliK: services exist in /etc/init.d	09:34
OlliK	epimeth: Basically ventrilo is a voice communication program, similar to TeamSpeak, which servers as a host to multiple clients who connect to it to talk with voice chat..	09:34
tyyy	its a red ruby	09:34
epimeth	OlliK: those are what can/do run at startup, before you log in	09:34
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epimeth	tyyy: are there rubies that aren't red? :-)	09:35
OlliK	epimeth: And the bot is just a program that connects to IRC and joins to the channels it has been set to join, and keeps the channel in order	09:35
monzie	tyyy: i do see it	09:35
monzie	but selecting beryl/compiz	09:35
tyyy	yes there are youll wonder but its true	09:35
monzie	does nothing	09:35
OlliK	epimeth: ok, thanks, I'll try to look more into that init.d	09:35
epimeth	OlliK: you might have to write a script	09:35
epimeth	OlliK: take a look at some of the ones that are already there	09:36
tyyy	ok then click there and select windowmanager beryl	09:36
monzie	tyyy: i am doing that	09:36
tyyy	is emerald runing?	09:36
monzie	tyyy: the screen flashes, all windows redraw themselves	09:36
monzie	but i dont see the beryl startup screen	09:36
monzie	nor do i see any effects	09:36
tyyy	you dont need to see the startupscreen	09:36
monzie	tyyy: i dont see emerald as well	09:36
tyyy	usually it is by default turned off	09:37
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tyyy	go to the red ruby and tell me what is in windowmanager selected	09:37
monzie	tyyy: its kwin now	09:37
tyyy	is emerald available?	09:37
monzie	tyyy: nope	09:37
tyyy	then you must install it	09:38
monzie	tyyy: beryl, compize, kwin, metacity	09:38
tyyy	apt-get install emerald in konsole	09:38
monzie	tyyy:	09:38
monzie	manish@freedom:~$ sudo apt-get install emerald	09:38
monzie	Reading package lists... Done	09:38
monzie	Building dependency tree	09:38
monzie	Reading state information... Done	09:38
monzie	emerald is already the newest version.	09:38
monzie	emerald set to manual installed.	09:38
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tyyy	ah sorry	09:38
tyyy	i mean window decorator	09:39
tyyy	what is there selected?	09:39
paul__	!nvidia	09:39
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	09:39
monzie	tyyy: i selected emerald	09:40
monzie	no point	09:40
monzie	it's not working	09:40
tyyy	when you try to open beryl settings manager does it work?	09:40
Zabulus	hmm, is there something easier than wine?	09:40
tyyy	yes beer	09:43
tyyy	lol	09:43
monzie	tyyy: yes it opens	09:43
tyyy	wait monzie	09:43
monzie	tyyy: ok	09:43
tyyy	did you restart x?	09:43
tyyy	can you tell me what is now in windowmamger selected and in window decorator?	09:43
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tyyy	actually i came here to ask for help lol	09:43
tyyy	can somebody help me?	09:43
monzie	tyyy: i rebooted my machine	09:43
tyyy	can you tell me what is now in windowmamger selected and in window decorator?	09:43
Zabulus	alright, need help with wine, trying to get ragnarok(private server) to work	09:44
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tyyy	what is the problem?	09:45
tyyy	ill liste to it maybe i know what it is	09:45
monzie	tyyy: what do i do now?	09:45
monzie	i restarted x	09:45
tyyy	i cant promise to	09:45
monzie	it still does not work	09:45
tyyy	can you tell me what is now in windowmamger selected and in window decorator?	09:45
monzie	win manager = Kwin	09:45
monzie	window decorator = grayed out	09:46
tyyy	change to beryl and emerald once	09:46
monzie	tyy: i tried, to no avail	09:46
tyyy	and then check again and tell me what is selected	09:46
monzie	tyyy: all windows lose their decorations for a second	09:46
monzie	tyyy: and then they come back to the original state	09:46
monzie	(kwin) again	09:46
monzie	no window decorator gets selected	09:47
tyyy	go to a terminal	09:47
tyyy	and type glxinfo	09:47
monzie	is my radeon express not supported?	09:47
monzie	tyyy: yeah i did	09:57
monzie	direct rendering is on, if that is what you're askin	09:57
tyyy	im not sure, but you should be usually better off then me with intel. but i got it running	09:57
tyyy	just make it sure please	09:57
tyyy	check it again	09:57
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monzie	tyyy: output of glxinfo	09:57
monzie	http://pastebin.ca/499817	09:57
monzie	tyyy: am i better off with xgl?	09:57
tyyy	well fact is its not running	09:57
monzie	tyyy: yeah	09:57
tyyy	thats your problem	09:57
tyyy	i have no idea about radeon, but	09:57
tyyy	as much as i know its running with aiglx	09:57
tyyy	but you can try #beryl	09:57
tyyy	you have defenetly a driver problem	09:57
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tyyy	hallo?	09:57
tyyy	is any body there	09:57
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gnomefreak	tyyy: what can we/me help you with?	09:57
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paul__	hi	09:57
paul__	can i have some help please?	09:57
gnomefreak	!ask	09:57
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	09:57
tyyy	does anybody know what this is? Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!	09:57
paul__	lol	09:57
paul__	i tried to install the nvidia drivers	09:57
paul__	the -glx ones	09:57
tyyy	thats what im getting from xorg.0.log	09:57
paul__	and it killed my system	09:57
gnomefreak	tyyy: its not important as im assuming you get this with X	09:57
paul__	i had to do CRTL+F5 to get a terminal	09:57
tyyy	i had in mind	09:57
gnomefreak	paul__: what card?	09:57
Zabulus	when using wine, do you have to use an install exe, or can you use an exe that simply starts the game?	09:57
paul__	then i restored the config	09:57
paul__	nvidia 6600GT	09:57
tyyy	that could couse my freez state sometimes	09:57
gnomefreak	tyyy: look for things that start with [E]	09:57
tyyy	and then only a reset works	09:57
gnomefreak	paul__: nvidia-glx-new is the one you want iirc	09:57
paul__	oh ic, i'll give that a try	09:57
gnomefreak	Zabulus: install i believe but i dont use wine	09:57
Zabulus	is there something better i can use? or do i not have much choice?	09:57
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tyyy	ok no error with E thx alot	09:57
tyyy	zabulus	09:57
gnomefreak	Zabulus: cedega but again never used it	09:57
tyyy	what is the problem exactly?	09:57
Zabulus	isnt cedega the one that charges?	09:57
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horde	Hi. Can anyone give me some ideas as to why I can't connect to localhost in Firefox, Konqueror, etc.? Thanks	10:11
tyyy	?	10:11
tyyy	what do you want to do?	10:11
tyyy	im not sure if i get the question right	10:12
rbrunhuber	horde : are you really having problems to connect in firefox?	10:12
rbrunhuber	horde : I only have this in konqueror if knetworkmanager is thinking to be offline.	10:12
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horde	knetworkmanager is online, and firefox can connect to other external web pages, but not to localhost on my machine	10:13
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horde	I'm trying to connect to the SABnzb web interface	10:14
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horde	It's served up on localhost	10:14
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tyyy	maybe tis blocked	10:14
horde	how do I check that...sorry am a newb	10:14
rbrunhuber	horde : but is it plain localhost? no ports nothing else?	10:15
paul__	gnomefreak: I'm back :(, it didn't work. Same problem, it started loading then went to a black screen with a cursor	10:15
horde	yeah, localhost:8080	10:15
horde	I've tried switching ports	10:15
rbrunhuber	horde : open a terminal and use netstat -an \|grep LISTEN	10:15
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rbrunhuber	horde : look if someone is listening on 127.0.0.1:8080 or :8080 or ffff:8080	10:16
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Ahmuck	why is kubuntu using mDNS ?	10:18
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : Why not?	10:18
horde	Did netstat....doesn't look like anything else is on that port.	10:18
Ahmuck	because it creates a lot of traffic	10:18
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : It should only do if you are in "avahi" mode	10:19
Ahmuck	is there a reason i should be in avahi mode?	10:19
horde	at least it doesn't lot explicitly anything listening on port 8080	10:19
horde	sorry, lot=list	10:19
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rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : If you have no network connection with dns and no static ip address then you are in avahi mode. You should have a 169.x.y.z ip address then.	10:20
Ahmuck	no network connection with dns, as in my isp dns server is borken?	10:21
Ahmuck	i have a good ip address	10:21
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : and you have no nick with a 169 address?	10:21
gnomefreak	paul__: what ubuntu version? can you pastebin the errors in the log file? did you ever use the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com on this system?	10:21
Ahmuck	correct	10:21
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : And your local domain name is ends not in .local?	10:22
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Ahmuck	correct	10:22
service	!scanner	10:22
ubotu	Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners	10:22
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rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : So what do you mean with "mdns is causing a lot of traffic"?	10:23
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : brb	10:23
service	!cinvert	10:23
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about cinvert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:23
service	!convert	10:23
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:23
Ahmuck	k, why would i need avahi? it appears that ps -ax is showing two processes with avahi	10:23
service	!mp3	10:23
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	10:23
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horde	How can I check if "localhost:8080" is blocked?	10:24
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horde	better yet, how can I check thru bash if something on my machine is running a service (gui interface) on localhost:8080?	10:26
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mo0osah	I uninstalled some themes from superkaramba and now when I go back to install them... i says they're already installed	10:31
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rbrunhuber	horde: netstat -an should show you if a service is listening on :8080	10:32
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rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : Do you use the easy file transfer applet in kde?	10:32
rbrunhuber	horde : What service do you want to use?	10:33
horde	I'm running SABnzb and direct it's interface to localhost:8080	10:33
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Ahmuck	rbrunhuber: no	10:34
rbrunhuber	horde : Don't know this. What is SABnzb?	10:34
horde	it's a usenet binary downloader	10:34
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : What do you mean that mdns is causing a lot of traffic?	10:34
rbrunhuber	horde : is this using apache or inet.d ?	10:35
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alesan	hi	10:35
horde	rbrunhuber: netstat -an doesn't list anything on localhost:8080	10:35
alesan	where can I read the difference between desktop and alternate?	10:36
horde	rbrunhuber: sorry, I have no idea...how do I check?	10:36
Ahmuck	http://www.net.princeton.edu/filters/mdns.html	10:36
rbrunhuber	horde : did you adapt any configuration files?	10:37
horde	rbrunhuber: yes, it has it's own config file	10:38
horde	rbrunhuber: but that's the only one I touched for this program	10:38
horde	rbrunhuber: strange thing is...sometimes it works and not others	10:39
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rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : But what is your problem with this?	10:39
Ahmuck	i am getting serious lockups and trying to reduce anything that may be causing it	10:39
Ahmuck	it almost feels like windows	10:40
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : So why don't you just kick the processes out then?	10:40
Ahmuck	my bigger problem, is why a service is bieng started when it does not need to be	10:40
Ahmuck	i can do that easy enough, but why should it be enabled anyway ?	10:40
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Ahmuck	it seems less secure	10:41
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : the easiest but most time consuming way is to just disable all services or daemons you don't need.	10:41
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harmental	hi everybody......since my upgrade to feisty one month ago i've have a problem with my wireless connection (via PCMCIA)....i wont autoconnect at startup....	10:42
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : Or you don't know and look if something is no longer working.	10:42
harmental	i have to use wirelesslan everybody.....which is kind of annoying...	10:42
harmental	the thing is that it worked like a charm with edgy....	10:42
harmental	any ideas?	10:42
rbrunhuber	horde : is there a service running which is called sab* ?	10:43
horde	yes	10:43
horde	it's definitely working...I'm pulling down files...but I just can't connect to it's interface	10:44
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rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : To answer you question: AFAIK There were long discussions about avahi on the devel list. The result was that avahi is restricted to local addresses and .local domain (means if you got no address and have no static address). The concerns of princeton are that other os manufacturers have no such restriction.	10:49
rbrunhuber	Ahmuck : so you have a lot of broadcast traffic because every connected mac announces all his services via broad/multicast. Which causes a lot of traffic.	10:50
pisq	roconner, how goes it where you are?	10:50
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monzie	Detected xserver : AIGLX	11:03
monzie	Checking Display :0 ...	11:03
monzie	Checking for XComposite extension : failed	11:03
monzie	No composite extension	11:03
monzie	beryl: No composite extension	11:03
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monzie	this is the output i get after i run beryl-manager from console	11:03
youbuntu	hello : occasionally when start up and log in, my email, or web browser doesn't work. Though I can ping a extranal ip address. shutting down and rebooting once or twice fixes the problem - any ideas?	11:04
benjamin	hi all, where do I assign file-extensions to programms in kubuntu?	11:04
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aenna	hi!	11:06
aenna	i want to know how i can launch apps one after another	11:07
aenna	i used a batch	11:08
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aenna	like *.bat in ms-dos	11:08
harmental	hi everybody......since my upgrade to feisty one month ago i've have a problem with my wireless connection (via PCMCIA)....i wont autoconnect at startup....	11:08
aenna	but here i want to launch apps but i need them not to ble closed when i launcjh the next one	11:09
harmental	i have to use wirelesslan everytime.....which is kind of annoying...	11:09
benjamin	aenna: name the file XXX.sh	11:09
harmental	the thing is that it worked like a charm with edgy....	11:09
harmental	any ideas?	11:09
monzie	hi all	11:09
aenna	ok thanks haremental	11:09
benjamin	aenna: and it must be executable	11:09
monzie	is there a way i can check which ports are open in ubuntu?	11:09
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aenna	benjamin i used that but my problem is that with that method i must wait to kill tha app to run next one	11:11
aenna	*the	11:12
aenna	its a problem whith kiba-dock	11:12
aenna	for example if i run it on a terminal i must close it to if i want the terminalt to let mi execute another thing	11:13
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benjamin	aenna: use && betwean the programmnames	11:17
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aenna	ok	11:17
aenna	thankyou	11:17
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hw_	How can I prevent that Xorg generates a new xorg.conf if I change the graphic(s)?	11:19
hw_	...graphic cards	11:19
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benjamin	aenna: if you use programm & you could still use the console	11:21
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benjamin	aenna: but be aware, that if you close the console every executed prog gets killed . .	11:22
PhinnFort	lol	11:24
PhinnFort	the executed gets killed	11:24
PhinnFort	:P	11:24
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aenna	benjamin now with & it works perfect	11:28
aenna	tahnkyou very much!	11:28
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luxio4	hello	11:29
luxio4	ciao	11:29
luxio4	can anyone help me to install UBUNTU?	11:29
epimeth	anybody here a webdev?	11:29
luxio4	i haven't portable media	11:29
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luxio4	i would like to install from internet UBUNTU replacing the current OS ( mandrake )	11:29
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epimeth	luxio4: download the iso, burn it, and install! :-)	11:30
luxio4	is there a CLICK from internet without burns and portable media?	11:30
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epimeth	luxio4: nope	11:30
epimeth	luxio4: you can't magically install an os :-)	11:31
luxio4	i want replace all in my hdd is there a micro distro i can download and start that replaces all and install automatically UBUNTU?	11:31
epimeth	luxio4: you always need a disk of some sort	11:31
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luxio4	nahhh why do you think OLD? Portable media are OLD	11:31
luxio4	i have INTERNET connection and i want don't waste my time reading or interpreting scripts	11:31
luxio4	i want just CLICK and GO with an UBUNTU installation	11:32
luxio4	i tried LUBI but it's always the same ... dependencies... strange errors ... and finally when all seems ok	11:32
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luxio4	GRUB doesn't show the UBUNTU item in the menu	11:32
luxio4	so i m looking for and EASY brain that let install UBUNTU with a simple CLICK replacing all in the HD windows , linux or other	11:33
epimeth	luxio4: I guess you create a partition and put all the files there manually, but I don't know how you would do that	11:33
luxio4	is there a little distro that starts and assuring the network connection install ubuntu?	11:33
luxio4	MANUALLY??????	11:33
epimeth	yea	11:34
epimeth	I'v never heard of someone wanting to do what you want	11:34
luxio4	naahhhh we are in 2007 3D view and so on ( WINDOWS SVISTA ahah ) and you talk about "Manually"!!!!!	11:34
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luxio4	when you dowload a PROGRAM from internet maybe you burn a CD to run IT???	11:35
luxio4	*do	11:35
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epimeth	you capitalized it wonderfully	11:36
epimeth	PROGRAM	11:36
luxio4	you donwload at least compile and then RUN	11:36
epimeth	no try OPERATING SYSTEM	11:36
epimeth	s/no/now	11:36
luxio4	the cool of linux is the DISTRO	11:36
luxio4	you have lot of DISTRO	11:36
luxio4	but internet == mega CD ROM	11:36
luxio4	internet == mega pen drive	11:37
luxio4	so why do you need to burn	11:37
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luxio4	LIVE CD is a great thing	11:37
luxio4	i want LIVE INTERNET	11:37
epimeth	then go off and make one	11:37
luxio4	but this is not possible because internet is slowwwww	11:37
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epimeth	closest thing to what you want is network boot	11:37
luxio4	so i want only a little click to REPLACE all in my HDD	11:38
luxio4	and not lot of strange documentations about "Installation Methods ...."	11:38
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luxio4	i want network boot for ubuntu YEAH	11:38
epimeth	look... I'm starving so I'm going down for lunch. what you want is great, unfortunately beyond what is currently available	11:38
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epimeth	network boot is only for the local network	11:39
epimeth	and you need a server for the os loader	11:39
epimeth	this probably exists	11:39
epimeth	but you'd need to install it	11:39
epimeth	by downloading the cd and installing	11:39
luxio4	local network for start up but i need only a micro distro to download the ubuntu iso and to install it automatically	11:39
luxio4	LUBI seems to do it but i used it and it doesn't seems robust	11:40
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epimeth	then get the base download for debian and replace all the repos with ubuntu ones	11:40
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epimeth	but again, I'm going to go eat	11:41
epimeth	good luck	11:41
luxio4	good meal	11:41
epimeth	cheers	11:41
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luxio4	neutrinux ciao	11:41
luxio4	Gran Sasso	11:42
luxio4	do you know the Gran Sasso in Italy where neutrinus are observed?	11:42
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luxio4	oki at the end it's not possible to install UBUNTU without a removable media or without strange scripts	11:43
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luxio4	i hope in the future	11:43
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Neutrinux	luxio4: of course i know!!	11:44
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luxio4	you know :))	11:45
luxio4	i live at 50 mn from there	11:45
luxio4	min	11:45
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Neutrinux	o ok cool. living 600km from the lhc where the neutrino beam is created (geneve)!! and this sommer having hollyday at napoli so not far from u! but all of this is out the subject of this chan	11:48
Neutrinux	;)	11:48
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ozzi	hi	11:49
ozzi	i just figured out how to get this thing working	11:49
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ozzi	i think...	11:50
ozzi	anybody here?	11:50
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nuu	only 388 persons	11:50
nuu	:)	11:50
ozzi	yeah, i noticed that now	11:50
ozzi	this is mi first irc in windows or linux	11:51
zapp	i can't run adept manager anymore. someone know wich are the proceses that use adept database?	11:51
nuu	welcome then ozzi	11:52
ozzi	thanks	11:52
ozzi	nice to be here	11:52
nuu	:)	11:53
ozzi	by the way do es anybody knw if i can command beryl from console?	11:53
ozzi	or scripts?	11:53
Lynoure	zapp: apt and aptitude at least. Check with ps -A, for example	11:54
zapp	thx! i try	11:55
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ozzi	...	12:01
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ubuntu	hi there	12:02
ozzi	greetings	12:02
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zapp	irc kubuntu italia	12:08
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stranger_	hello, I have a small problem connecting with Konqueror to an ftp server of a webspace provider. the login is in the following format "login@hostname/dir" (that is just the login) does anybody know any solution? thanks	12:20
NiceGuyUK	stranger_: what is the problem you're getting?	12:20
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stranger_	the error is "login incorrect" .. with the console ftp it works ok.	12:21
nuu	does it ask for a password somewhere ?	12:21
stevec__	anyone know how to disable join and leave message on irssi?	12:22
NiceGuyUK	stranger_: you could try the format ftp://username:password@hostname	12:22
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NiceGuyUK	also, some FTP connections need you to omit the /dir part until after you've logged in	12:23
stranger_	@nuu .. it asks also for a pass but I guess that is not the problem as it connects fine with the standart ftp	12:23
nuu	stranger_: "login incorrect" means you either type in the wrong username, or the wrong password	12:23
NiceGuyUK	agreed	12:24
nuu	stranger_: or that, in a very unlucky case, you're accessing the wrong host which coincidentially has the ftp service up and running, and therefore not accepting you, being an unkown user	12:24
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nuu	stranger_: i'd double check user, host, and password :)	12:24
stranger_	with the standart url notation the whole login looks like this "ftp://username@hostname/dir:pass@hostname" .. i guess I am looking for a way to substitute the @	12:24
nuu	that's wrong, stranger_	12:25
nuu	it's user:pass@host/dir	12:25
nuu	not user@host/dir:pass	12:25
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youbuntu	!ubuntu	12:25
ubotu	Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome	12:25
stevec__	^	12:26
stevec__	use_msgs_window = OFF	12:26
stevec__	oops :-)	12:26
stranger_	my problem is that the login is exactly : "name@hostname/dir"	12:26
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nuu	stranger_: try escaping the @ character as \@ then	12:26
nuu	and the / too, as \/	12:26
NiceGuyUK	nasty logon - I blame the ISP admins	12:27
stranger_	:) will try that thanks	12:27
nuu	NiceGuyUK: totally agreed	12:27
stranger_	:-) i am considering switching	12:27
nuu	NiceGuyUK: i can understand giving my users a per-domain logon, involving the @ symbol, but using a pathname in a logon is like	12:28
NiceGuyUK	also you could try just ftp://hostname and wait for Konqeror to prompt you for username/password in the dialogue box. May work tidier	12:28
nuu	incredibly stupid :)	12:28
youbuntu	occasionally when start up and log in, my email, or web browser doesn't work (no external connection). Though I can ping a external ip address. shutting down and rebooting once or twice fixes the problem - any ideas?	12:28
NiceGuyUK	nuu: reminds me of the guy I know who wanted the address admin@atatdotdot.com	12:29
stranger_	ok 10x for the ideas will try them	12:29
nuu	could be a nameserver issue youbuntu, make sure your /etc/resolv.conf is correctly setup before you try accessing the outside network	12:29
nuu	NiceGuyUK: hehe	12:29
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youbuntu	nuu : thanks looking at it now ( it's working though). how many IPs should be in there?	12:33
youbuntu	do u have a simple explaination of this file?	12:34
nuu	youbuntu: do you know how dns works ?	12:34
youbuntu	nuu: a little dns looks up domain names and converts ti ip addresses - yes?	12:35
nuu	precisely	12:36
nuu	so youbuntu, basically that file lists the address of dns servers which will be used for such conversion	12:36
nuu	so if you can access the network (you say pinging an ip works), but you can't browse the web (where you most likely use a hostname, and not an ip), then probably the dns isn't correctly setup	12:37
youbuntu	nuu: ok so the ip addresses there are the dns's i am using	12:37
nuu	ie your machine isn't correctly resolving hostnames to ips	12:37
youbuntu	why would be - sometimes	12:37
nuu	thus apparently crippling your connectivity, while you really are connected, just unable to access the network using hostnames	12:37
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nuu	youbuntu: resolv.conf lists the nameserver(s) used by your connection to perform such dns lookup	12:38
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nuu	therefore if one or more of those nameservers have a connection problem, you have a connection problem too as a consequence of dns lookup failures	12:38
nuu	is that clear enough ?	12:38
NiceGuyUK	worth noting - some NetGear routers incorrectly overwrite the resolv.conf file. I had to use root to make it unwritable to get around this.	12:38
youbuntu	so my router could be the issue?	12:39
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NiceGuyUK	youbuntu: theoretically possible. it kept overwriting my DNS to 192.168.0.1	12:39
youbuntu	i'm using a d-link adsl modem	12:40
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NiceGuyUK	I only have experience of netgear ones	12:40
nuu	youbuntu: well, if that's the case, then you need to properly configure the dns server being given to dhcp clients in your router	12:40
nuu	it's all down to configuration: probably NiceGuyUK's router was configured with 192.168.0.1 (which is a LAN ip, most likely a default ip in the factory default configuration), and thus his linux install kept using it as a nameserver	12:41
nuu	chances are if you configure your router to use a different (valid) nameserver ip, NiceGuyUK, the problem will solve itself as your router does not directly modify resolv.conf	12:41
nuu	it just instructs the dhcp client (your linux box, in your case), as to what the dns to use is	12:41
youbuntu	nuu, NiceGuyUK : thanks very much guys. You given me something to check.	12:42
nuu	if you set it up to use a valid ip, your linux box will write that address inside resolv.conf, and everything will work nicely	12:42
youbuntu	excellent	12:42
nuu	np youbuntu	12:42
youbuntu	:)]	12:42
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youbuntu	nuu , youbuntu : one more thing....when i said i could ping a external addess it was a .com adddress i typed ( not a ip address) doesn't that mean the dns was working?	12:56
nuu	it could mean it's working for some addresses and not others	12:56
nuu	or it could mean you had it in your local dns cache	12:57
youbuntu	ok ......(ping www.googlw.com worked)	12:58
nuu	anyhow, one way to make 100% sure that your dns is the issue, you can first of all get the ip for a website that typically doesnt work when the problem occurs	12:58
youbuntu	where is local dns cache?	12:58
youbuntu	ok	12:58
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nuu	then when the problem actually occurs, and you can't access that website with its hostname	12:58
nuu	you try accessing it via its ip address	12:58
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nuu	that's a sure bet that will help you rule out nameserver issues	12:59
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nuu	of course, make sure the website actually displays something when clients use its ip address	12:59
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nuu	because it's not always the case (hostnames can be used as a "virtual host" to redirect to one of a batch of co-hosted websites on a single server, being exposed to the internet with a single ip address)	01:00
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youbuntu	yes ok ....... again thanks....i appreciate it!......i may have more (different??) questions later if u don't mind....	01:02
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nuu	just join the channel and ask em ;) if i'm not around/dont know the answer, i'm sure you'll find plenty of helpful people here	01:02
ninHer	i need some help with ps3/yellow dog	01:02
nuu	just keep it on-topic ;)	01:02
ninHer	im stucked	01:02
ninHer	:-(	01:02
andre	hi all. not sure if I'm right here. how can I change the language interface for gtk-apps (like vlc-player) running in kde?	01:03
ninHer	andre look at packet manager and try find i18n and your language	01:05
andre	ninHer: thx!	01:05
ninHer	english woud be en and spanish would be es	01:05
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youbuntu	is there a startup apps dir which lists apps that will auto start at login? (eg how do i make Kontact to auto start at login)	01:12
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RawSewage	yes	01:18
RawSewage	/home/you/.kde/AutoStart	01:19
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BluesKaj	Howdy All :)	01:20
youbuntu	RawSewage : so in there what file should reside for an app to start? (eg Kontact)	01:22
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RawSewage	right click inside there	01:22
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RawSewage	Link to Application	01:22
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RawSewage	Create new...	01:23
RawSewage	Link to App	01:23
youbuntu	RawSewage : thanks I'll try it now! :)	01:23
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epimeth	any webdevs here?	01:35
RawSewage	sort of	01:35
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Riddell	epimeth: webdevs?	01:39
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youbuntu	RawSewage: me again tried it (autostart) it works but it's a manual process to setup. Is there a easier way to add a app to autostart?	01:44
RawSewage	youbuntu, what do you mean, manual	01:44
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youbuntu	is there a way for a basic (non techical) user to make a app autostart?	01:45
RawSewage	You go to that folder, right-clcik -- Add New- Link to application	01:45
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RawSewage	3 fields to fill in	01:46
RawSewage	Kontact	01:46
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RawSewage	and in the Application Tab... Name: Kontact	01:46
RawSewage	Command: kontact	01:46
RawSewage	thats it	01:46
RawSewage	I dont know if there's an easier way	01:47
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nuu	youbuntu: copy the app link to the .kde/Autostart directory under your home folder	01:48
youbuntu	yes that's a good idea	01:48
RawSewage	oh	01:49
youbuntu	I can do it - I just thinking of how would a 'office worker' handle doing that .....	01:49
youbuntu	the link would help	01:49
RawSewage	I didnt know about the drag and drop method	01:49
youbuntu	ah....even better	01:50
nuu	yep, drag and drop i meant. the application link is what appears in your kde menu	01:51
youbuntu	I have no probs handling the basic tech stuff ...i'm just thinking what i give it to a non tech person to do.	01:52
youbuntu	thanks guys	01:52
nuu	np	01:53
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youbuntu	autostart drag/drop to creat link works great!	02:17
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alexicon	anyone here run a photo gallery? know a good one on apt to get?	02:19
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_6StringKng_	k, when I adjust my volume to 80% using my keyboard if I hover my mouse over kmix it says 77%?	02:20
alexicon	keyboard might be editing pcm and not master?	02:21
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_6StringKng_	no clue, not a big deal, was just wondering	02:22
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alexicon	yeah dunno what it might be. try opening alsamixer and watching what changes when you use the keyboard verse kmix	02:23
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epimeth	any webdevs here?	02:29
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youbuntu	#ubuntu	02:29
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Tm_T	good morning BluesKaj	02:32
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BluesKaj	hi Tm_T	02:33
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Tm_T	BluesKaj: guess what, it's hot here	02:35
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Tm_T	and a week or so ago it was snowing <3	02:35
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epimeth	its been hot here for a while	02:35
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epimeth	one of the perks of living in the holy land ^.^	02:36
BluesKaj	heh, cool here , might get up to 17C , but it is sunny ...this so called global warming isn't affecting us very much.	02:36
uft	Alguem fala Portugues?	02:36
BluesKaj	!pt	02:36
ubotu	Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.	02:36
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uft	ok	02:36
alexicon	global warming done us right last month	02:36
alexicon	bit chilly again for now though	02:36
uft	Thanks	02:36
alexicon	whole month of april over 18-20C everyday mmm	02:37
epimeth	see thats where you're wrong.... global warming is an average. it might be cold and rainy where you are, but the areas that have always been hot and dry are even hotter and dryer	02:37
BluesKaj	alexicon, where are you ?	02:37
Jucato	!ot	02:37
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	02:37
alexicon	uk BluesKaj	02:37
Tm_T	this slow ssh is torturing me so see you later ->	02:37
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BluesKaj	<--Canada	02:37
epimeth	Jucato: what up! been a while :-)	02:37
alexicon	its gotten warmer and warmer year over the past 5 esp	02:37
alexicon	the winters have been getting warmer and shorter each year	02:38
Jucato	epimeth: hi :)	02:38
epimeth	you wouldn't happen to be a webdev mayhaps?	02:38
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Jucato	epimeth: me? how I wish :D	02:38
BluesKaj	yes, ours was quite mild and very little snow.	02:38
epimeth	heh	02:38
epimeth	useless! all of you!	02:38
alexicon	anyone here run a web photo gallery? im lookin for a simple one thats easy to setup but will support my 5k+ images	02:38
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epimeth	flikr, no?	02:39
BluesKaj	flickr	02:39
alexicon	5000 images :P	02:39
alexicon	i dont wanna upload all that	02:39
BluesKaj	oooh	02:39
epimeth	oh, you want to host one?	02:39
epimeth	I'm sure there's something....	02:39
alexicon	just want to make them acessible from my website	02:39
alexicon	yeah	02:39
alexicon	im running jigl atm	02:39
alexicon	for just a small amount of the images	02:39
alexicon	nice easy perl script	02:39
BluesKaj	photobucket	02:39
alexicon	!photobucket	02:40
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about photobucket - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:40
epimeth	dunno about photos, but jinzora is awesome for music	02:40
alexicon	hrm	02:40
epimeth	:-)	02:40
alexicon	ooh nice	02:40
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epimeth	speaking of easy perl scripts... there are like a million ways to make an http request with perl... anybody know which is preferred?	02:41
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epimeth	geez... I ask a question and everybody runs :-(	02:42
alexicon	epimeth: how hard is the setup for jinzora, ive had awful luck with icecast	02:43
alexicon	id ask in #perl epimeth ;)	02:43
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Jucato	epimeth: it seems it's not because you asked a question.. it's because you asked about perl :)	02:43
alexicon	heh	02:44
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=== epimeth can replace you with a very short perl script
epimeth	and I have, too....	02:45
alexicon	oh does this jinzora work with shoutcast then..	02:45
epimeth	while(<>) {$\|=1; print;}	02:45
epimeth	muahaha	02:45
epimeth	alexicon: I think so... I know it works with amarok :-)	02:45
alexicon	hrm	02:46
alexicon	ok	02:46
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epimeth	I haven't set it up, but my friend has.... didn't say anything about any problems	02:46
alexicon	if this thing works with shoutcast, i might as well go back to icecast and mpdphp	02:46
Jucato	:s/epimeth/null/	02:46
Jucato	no perl :)	02:46
epimeth	Jucato.out > /dev/null	02:46
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BluesKaj	amarok woeks well with shoutcast ...what's all the fuss about ?	02:47
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mattimeo78	I have a quick question.	02:50
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mattimeo78	How do I set a user to full access?	02:50
epimeth	mattimeo78: only root has full access	02:51
epimeth	you can give a user full sudo access	02:51
epimeth	see the /etc/sudoers file	02:51
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mattimeo78	So I just sudo when a folder is asking for permission?	02:51
epimeth	sudo -i	02:54
epimeth	that will make you root	02:54
epimeth	then you can access any directory	02:54
epimeth	or do you mean in the gui?	02:54
mattimeo78	That would be helpful. I can't even delete broken folders.	02:54
epimeth	if so, you have to alt+f2 "kdesu konqueror" (or whatever file manager you use) and then put in your password	02:55
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alexicon	did they get rid of the sudo group in feisty?	02:55
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nuu	what do you mean, the sudo group ?	02:56
Jucato	alexicon: hm...I recall answering that question already... (can't remember when)	02:56
alexicon	on edgy i added myself to the sudo group	02:56
Jucato	alexicon: if you mean the sudoers group, it has always been the admin group in Kubuntu	02:56
alexicon	then i didnt have to type my password all the time	02:57
alexicon	on	02:57
alexicon	maybe its cos i moved over to ubuntu	02:57
Jucato	ah	02:57
Jucato	I think you can edit /etc/sudoers (using visudo) for that. I don't know how though	02:57
mattimeo78	SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual - Why is this?	02:57
okapi	hello to all	02:57
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mattimeo78	Hello, Okapi.	02:57
nuu	alexicon: you can modify sudoers and add the NOPASSWD keyword to the group/user you don't want to input a password when sudo'ing	02:57
alexicon	cheers	02:58
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lbgist	hello	02:58
lbgist	i need help with kubuntu	02:58
Jucato	!ask	02:59
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	02:59
alexicon	heh	02:59
mattimeo78	I partitioned my drive backwards. >.<	02:59
okapi	I have problems with the Kubuntu 7.10. I just installed into my laptop DELL LAtitude 600 and it is not reconizing my pcmcia controller. Anyone can help?	03:00
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nuu	now that's a topic candidate	03:00
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epimeth	nuu: whats with the nick? nuu means "come on!" in hebrew...	03:00
mattimeo78	It means "Noo" in chatspeak.	03:01
nuu	interesting, nick's actually nu, which means naked in french, and now in swedish	03:01
nuu	it has infinite variations	03:01
BluesKaj	backwards ?	03:01
mattimeo78	Accidentally gave Windows only 30 GB and Ubuntu 100.	03:01
nuu	mattimeo78: that's a sign of the gods	03:01
Jucato	100GB to Ubuntu? nice :)	03:01
nuu	they want you to use linux	03:01
lbgist	when i reboot from kubuntu i close my dvd drive without cd and i press enter. and nothing appear	03:01
BluesKaj	windows deserves just 30	03:01
lbgist	no boot	03:02
mattimeo78	Which is a bummer, because Ubuntu picked up an extra 30GB that windows did not, and because I did it backwards that 30 went back into the abyss.	03:02
Jucato	mine just has 20GB :)	03:02
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lbgist	someone can help me is a bug?	03:02
BluesKaj	<-48g for windows , 98 for kubuntu	03:02
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lbgist	hello?	03:03
mattimeo78	Hello.	03:03
BluesKaj	have to reinstall windows due to scanner incompatablities	03:03
lbgist	hello can you help me with my problem?	03:04
lbgist	kubuntu problem	03:04
mattimeo78	Nope. I'm practically a retard with Ubuntu.	03:04
nuu	lbgist: if you close a dvd drive without a disc inserted, i'm fairly sure it is by design, that nothing happens	03:04
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BluesKaj	bbl	03:05
lbgist	why cant reboot?	03:05
lbgist	and how i reboot?	03:06
mattimeo78	Lol. Yeah, installing my drivers might help fix my GL problems. I'm even using my onboard sound because I didn't think to install my sound drivers.	03:06
nuu	you can reboot using the "log out" button in your kde menu	03:06
nuu	and then selecting "restart"	03:06
nuu	or you can use "reboot" from a terminal	03:06
lbgist	ok thanks	03:07
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mattimeo78	Is the Konsole case-sensitive?	03:08
nuu	yes	03:08
epimeth	mattimeo78: all of linux is case-sensitive	03:09
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mattimeo78	How do I edit my X file? Trying to install NVIDIA drivers.	03:13
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nuu	mattimeo78: the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf	03:17
mattimeo78	Aye, I found it.	03:18
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leotr	hi all. how can i add russian language to my KDE? what should i download?	03:19
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Jucato	!locale \| leotr	03:19
ubotu	leotr: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf	03:19
Jucato	!ru \| leotr	03:19
ubotu	leotr: #ubuntu-ru / Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke	03:19
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exceswater	hi all	03:20
exceswater	i have a question	03:20
exceswater	adept shows that i have 3 packs to update	03:20
exceswater	but if i try to run it...	03:20
exceswater	it says some other process is using something	03:20
exceswater	and i cannot use adept	03:20
exceswater	how can i make it work	03:21
exceswater	????///	03:21
Jucato	!adeptfix \| exceswater	03:21
ubotu	exceswater: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	03:21
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mattimeo78	I don't mean to over-ask, but when I attempt to instal NVIDIA drivers it asks me to exit X and then try again. How do I do this?	03:21
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alexicon	mattimeo78: ctrl+alt+backspace	03:22
alexicon	but right after you install the nvidia stuff it tells you to reboot in feisty right	03:22
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alexicon	sup haydar_	03:23
haydar_	nothing :)	03:23
haydar_	you?	03:23
haydar_	;D	03:23
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Ace2016	Hi all	03:23
haydar_	hi	03:23
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Ace2016	krandrtray says my refresh rate is 50hz, how do i boost this to 75hz, i use 75 in xp	03:23
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mattimeo78	Wasn't expecting that.	03:24
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haydar_	ace2016	03:24
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haydar_	Do you have videocard drivers installed	03:24
Ace2016	haydar_: nvidia drivers are installed	03:24
haydar_	Strange	03:24
haydar_	Sorry more i cant hel	03:25
haydar_	p	03:25
haydar_	kinda newb :P	03:25
mattimeo78	I'm trying to instal mine right now. Having no luck.	03:25
mattimeo78	Thing still says I'm running an X server.	03:25
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alexicon	mattimeo78: it will always be x	03:25
haydar_	suo alexicon :P	03:25
haydar_	sup*	03:25
alexicon	to test if the nv drivers are installed right, do glxgears	03:25
alexicon	if that program works your drivers have been installed	03:25
alexicon	hey haydar_ not much, avoiding work, looking for a web gallery :P	03:26
Ace2016	mattimeo78: what are you trying to do?	03:26
mattimeo78	Install NVIDIA drivers.	03:26
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mattimeo78	Just realized I never did it for Ubunut.	03:26
alexicon	feisty right mattimeo78?	03:26
Ace2016	mattimeo78: have you tried installing from the repos or is this a custom kernel?	03:26
mattimeo78	Gonna have to dumb it down a little, Ace. >.<	03:27
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haydar_	rofl	03:27
haydar_	;) i'm trying to install WoW	03:27
alexicon	lol haydar_	03:27
Ace2016	!nvidia	03:27
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	03:27
haydar_	I got it working already	03:27
haydar_	but it lags like shit :P	03:27
Ace2016	mattimeo78: have a look at the link	03:28
alexicon	cedega wont run eve for me D:	03:28
haydar_	tweaking it keke	03:28
mattimeo78	WoW is Linux?	03:28
alexicon	my version is way old tho :/	03:28
alexicon	wow works in linux mattimeo78	03:28
alexicon	a lot of games do [and a lot more dont >_>]	03:28
haydar_	:P i know WoW works	03:28
haydar_	but it lags	03:28
haydar_	100 fps @ windows :P	03:29
morpheus_	do you use wine to run the games?	03:29
haydar_	15 fps @ linux	03:29
haydar_	atm	03:29
alexicon	i use cedega atm	03:29
alexicon	but i dont pay for it anymore	03:29
alexicon	so its a bit old	03:29
mattimeo78	Has anyone tried to get NWN to run on Linux?	03:29
alexicon	still plays wow, cs, jedi academy and loads of other stuff tho	03:29
alexicon	yeah nwn works native	03:29
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haydar_	Alex	03:29
alexicon	<3 nwn for that	03:29
haydar_	Does it work smooth	03:29
alexicon	unreal runs native too	03:30
haydar_	<3	03:30
alexicon	haydar_ yeah	03:30
mattimeo78	I'm not sure how to use the Linux binaries.	03:30
haydar_	apt-get update?	03:30
haydar_	:p	03:30
alexicon	mattimeo78: you just stick the cd in and it should recognise	03:30
morpheus_	cedega? wow looks good	03:30
alexicon	cedega is nice cos of the interface	03:30
morpheus_	not wow as in WoW but wow hehehe	03:31
alexicon	just makes it a bit easier to install the stuff	03:31
haydar_	=D	03:31
alexicon	i find getting a working wine configuration takes forever for me :/	03:31
haydar_	Well	03:31
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haydar_	I'm getting crazy because	03:31
haydar_	i'm only getting 15 FPS	03:31
haydar_	laggy sound i already fixed	03:31
alexicon	hrmm	03:31
haydar_	\o/	03:31
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alexicon	i played wow in linux for 2 years before i tried it on windows	03:32
alexicon	and i really didnt notice much performance difference	03:32
alexicon	cept my laptop which has windows is higher spec than my desktop :P	03:32
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alexicon	its not worth it :P	03:32
morpheus_	too busy giving everyone a hard on at work with kubuntu and beryl :P	03:33
alexicon	lol yeah	03:33
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Ace2016	a hard on with kubuntu....	03:33
alexicon	converted about 4 people at uni to linux	03:33
morpheus_	given out 5 CD's already today :)	03:33
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Zeelot	in the matrix? duh	03:34
morpheus_	lol	03:34
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haydar_	Hmm, this time lockup	03:34
alexicon	:/	03:34
haydar_	:*	03:34
alexicon	my music player locked up	03:34
BluesKaj	morpheus_, easily impressed by eye candy eh ? ... that's one way to reel them in :)	03:34
alexicon	again :/ it didnt do this in edgy ever	03:35
haydar_	Hmm really i dont know why.. :OO	03:35
haydar_	is there anyway to track it down	03:35
haydar_	lockups	03:35
alexicon	impressed with all that eye candy and still out doing the performance of xp hands down X_D	03:35
haydar_	How you mean?	03:35
morpheus_	gonna have a play with ubuntu server this week	03:35
BluesKaj	anyone here have experience with *.uif files ?	03:35
alexicon	ubuntu even going with beryl and all the graphics stuff runs faster for me than winxp	03:36
haydar_	True.	03:36
haydar_	I have alot of shizzle	03:36
haydar_	on	03:36
Zeelot	my xp completely outperforms linux...never saw a fast gnome or kde desktop yet =/	03:36
alexicon	and when i startup ubuntu i dont have to spend the first 5 minutes killing processes -_-	03:36
haydar_	alex :P	03:36
haydar_	services.msc	03:36
alexicon	gnome feels faster than kde for me atm	03:36
haydar_	i have kde	03:36
morpheus_	I'm on an old 1.5Mhz machine with a 200NX graphics card, and it still psanks vista :):):)	03:36
haydar_	Kubuntu	03:37
morpheus_	spanks*	03:37
haydar_	xd	03:37
alexicon	i switched back to ubuntu for feisty	03:37
alexicon	but i prefer this chan <3	03:37
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mattimeo78	I'm on a 933.	03:37
haydar_	Axe2016	03:37
alexicon	ace i havent used windows since 2001 :P	03:37
haydar_	Its easy to clear startupp	03:37
alexicon	really not up with it, just came on a laptop i got last summer	03:37
haydar_	programs	03:37
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alexicon	japanese no less, so it gives me grief :P	03:37
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haydar_	-.-" its virus attractive	03:37
alexicon	just use it for games really	03:38
alexicon	i could never imagine having to develop using windows D:	03:38
mattimeo78	I can't figure out this install. I'm gonna cry.	03:38
haydar_	Well thats what i wanted to do	03:38
alexicon	which one mattimeo78 nvidia still?	03:38
haydar_	But i dont have windows lying around	03:38
alexicon	are you on edgy or feisty mattimeo78	03:38
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mattimeo78	Feisty.	03:38
alexicon	haydar_: i didnt either til i got this laptop heh. its kinda been novel getting to try new games though	03:38
alexicon	mattimeo78: hrm, you running the restricted drivers manager mattimeo78 ?	03:39
haydar_	Well i used a cracked windows version for	03:39
haydar_	7 years now	03:39
morpheus_	wonder how many people are coming over to kubuntu each day, everyone I know has given it a go now and are dual booting at least	03:39
haydar_	Then, i saw this rofl	03:39
alexicon	heh	03:39
mattimeo78	All I see is three drivers in use. -.-	03:39
haydar_	morpheus_	03:39
haydar_	i dont have dualboot	03:39
haydar_	:P	03:39
alexicon	mattimeo78: does it list the nvidia one for install? how far have you gotten?	03:40
haydar_	:[ and i wanna play WoW	03:40
haydar_	rofl	03:40
morpheus_	but for dedicated winblows users to have an alternative os is a big step	03:40
alexicon	mattimeo78: do this at the terminal	03:40
alexicon	cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf \| grep driver	03:40
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haydar_	Alexicon	03:41
haydar_	I wanna try it with cedega	03:41
haydar_	is it opensource?	03:41
Jucato	!cedega	03:41
ubotu	cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega	03:41
alexicon	cedega is pay unfortunately	03:41
Jucato	cedega cvs is free iirc...	03:41
alexicon	you might be able to get an unsupported cvs version tho	03:41
alexicon	nod	03:42
haydar_	Where imo	03:42
alexicon	good idea actually	03:42
haydar_	Kinda new to this stuff rofl	03:42
alexicon	erm transgaming.org i think	03:42
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haydar_	Let me look	03:42
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alexicon	!cvs	03:42
ubotu	cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/	03:42
alexicon	wewt!! http://picasa.google.com/linux/	03:43
haydar_	Damn	03:43
alexicon	cool!	03:43
haydar_	need to register on the site	03:43
haydar_	the transgaming one	03:43
haydar_	:DDDDDDDDD	03:43
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alexicon	wewt and a deb file!!!	03:43
mattimeo78	BRB	03:43
alexicon	yeah i had emerald membership..	03:43
alexicon	joined back when WoW first came out	03:43
haydar_	Its not really free	03:44
alexicon	man that was a hassle..	03:44
alexicon	nope it isnt	03:44
alexicon	but you can get developer version for free	03:44
alexicon	might be buggy tho	03:44
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haydar_	:> serialcode	03:44
haydar_	generator	03:44
haydar_	?	03:44
haydar_	:P	03:44
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haydar_	i'm mean :D	03:44
haydar_	Developer version	03:44
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haydar_	Hey alex	03:47
haydar_	is it	03:47
haydar_	this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=cedega+cvs	03:47
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alexicon	itll be a cvs link haydar_	03:48
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haydar_	Its a howto	03:48
haydar_	for the cvs	03:48
alexicon	yep	03:48
alexicon	this is installing wine first em	03:48
haydar_	Do i now need to unistall	03:48
haydar_	I got wine already	03:48
haydar_	the newest one	03:48
haydar_	from the sitr	03:48
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haydar_	site*	03:48
alexicon	you dont want wine cvs	03:48
alexicon	you want cedega	03:48
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haydar_	Yea	03:49
ebees	Hi all. I'm running 6.06 on my desktop and laptop. I've a scanner that works on my desktop but not the lappy. It runs as root. I've checked ubuntuforums and checked all my settings against my desktop. Still can only run as root. groups shows me as belonging to scanner.	03:49
ejupin	I can't see KDE, I can log in but then I get desktop with nothing on it.. any idea's how I get it back.. Gnome works fine.	03:49
alexicon	http://cedega.com/cvs/	03:49
alexicon	http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS	03:49
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ebees	any assistance or advice would be appreciated	03:49
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haydar_	Alex	03:50
haydar_	its wineX	03:50
haydar_	or something	03:50
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alexicon	confusing	03:51
_6StringKng_	when you browse for file like when pening documents and stuff using kate,is there any way to add to the sort by mneu?	03:51
alexicon	point2play was what the gui used to be called	03:51
_6StringKng_	for files when using*	03:51
_6StringKng_	dammit	03:51
alexicon	they blocked it all together i think after 5.2.x	03:51
_6StringKng_	opening, lmao	03:51
Jucato	_6StringKng_: er... please rephrase w/ the correct spellings :)	03:52
haydar_	Please also note that Point2Play is not available through CVS.	03:52
alexicon	heh	03:52
alexicon	oh well	03:52
haydar_	Damn..:(	03:52
RobNyc-work	anyone here uses Kubuntu + Xchat ?	03:52
_6StringKng_	yeah, well, I'll try not to mess stuff up this time	03:52
_6StringKng_	lol	03:52
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alexicon	haydar_: can you get pm messages?	03:52
haydar_	hmm nope :P	03:53
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haydar_	You got msn ?:P	03:53
Jucato	_6StringKng_: still waiting :)	03:53
abrahao	Hi, How Can I access the ubuntu server via internet?	03:53
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_6StringKng_	ok, when you open files and stuff, like for example in kate, say I opened a document, when your gith click in the dir where your opening the file, can you add to the "Sorting" menu	03:53
alexicon	mrr msn	03:53
_6StringKng_	right click, sorry	03:53
Jucato	_6StringKng_: add what to the sorting menu?	03:54
_6StringKng_	like by type for example if its not there	03:54
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_6StringKng_	I think I remember being able to do it when I used 6.10 or 6.06	03:54
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Jucato	I don't think so... I think it's presumed that the only file type you'll be opening will be text files (and the like)	03:55
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_6StringKng_	well everything is listed, its just I like them to be sorted by type, hehe	03:56
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_6StringKng_	gets on my nerves when there sortyed by name, or size etc.	03:56
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alesan	hi	03:56
alesan	I am logged remotely on a ubuntu computer, how do I install ndiswrapper? using adept would have been easier I do not know the exact package name	03:56
alesan	apt-get install "what"?	03:57
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ehamberg	source /etc/bash_completion	03:57
alesan	:)	03:57
ehamberg	Let you tab-complete package names	03:57
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alexicon	ace	03:58
bumzo	hi pple	03:59
bumzo	how do i install a .bin file?	03:59
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ehamberg	probalby by setting it to executable and running it: chmod +x [file] ; ./[file]	03:59
ehamberg	(But a "bin" file can be almost anything...)	04:00
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alexicon	hey peeps, how do you check package version on apt again?	04:02
alexicon	or was it a dpkg call	04:02
alexicon	why do i seem to remember dpkg -k or something	04:02
Jucato	apt-cache policy <package> ?	04:02
Jucato	or just apt-cache show <package>	04:03
alexicon	ah cheers	04:03
ehamberg	Or dpkg -s <package> :)	04:03
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alexicon	ah yeah thats the one :D	04:04
alexicon	policy shows a nice shorthand tho	04:04
alesan	I installed ndiswrapper-common but this is not enough. if I try to install ndiswrapper-utils it gives me an error saying Package ndiswrapper-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.	04:04
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alexicon	what type of wifi card alesan	04:05
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alesan	alejandro, a broadcom softmac	04:05
ehamberg	alesan: Did you try the tab-completion trick? I can see that there's a package called ndiswrapper-utils-1.9...	04:05
alexicon	ick broadcom D:	04:06
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abrahao	<alesan> how can you be remote remotely?	04:06
alesan	the native driver... well it can detect and connect to a network but the transfer rate is way too low	04:06
haydar_	Damn	04:06
ehamberg	(I don't know anything about which package(s) you need :)	04:06
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haydar_	haydar@haydar-desktop:~$ apt-get update python	04:06
haydar_	E: De 'update'-opdracht aanvaard geen argumenten	04:06
haydar_	Dont works	04:06
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alesan	abrahao, sorry? what do you mean	04:06
ehamberg	haydar_: apt-get install python	04:06
ehamberg	haydar_: "update" updates the database, not a package	04:06
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haydar_	Aah	04:06
haydar_	:XD	04:07
haydar_	alex	04:07
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haydar_	from adept-manger	04:07
haydar_	i managed to install python-gtk2	04:07
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alexicon	ah cool	04:07
alexicon	yeah get python-glade2 as well	04:07
alexicon	then try the cedega dpkg again	04:07
haydar_	did it	04:08
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alexicon	nice	04:08
alexicon	dpkg works this time?	04:08
abrahao	<alesan> you typed that are logged remotely on a ubuntu computer, how Can I do that?	04:09
alesan	abrahao, install the package named "ssh"	04:09
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alesan	and then use on a remote computer the command: ssh user@IP	04:09
alesan	if the "client" computer is windows, you can use a program named putty	04:10
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abrahao	<alesan> the client is windows, Can I get an acceess like terminal serviece/?	04:11
alesan	what is terminal serviece? I am not familiar with windows	04:11
alesan	explain what is	04:11
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abrahao	<alesan> access ubuntu via remote desktop, see the gnome	04:13
alesan	well this channel is kubuntu, we use KDE	04:14
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abrahao	<alesan> can be kde	04:15
alesan	anyway you can install and start the x11vnc program and use a vnc client on the windows ciomputer, like realvnc	04:15
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abrahao	<alesan> install x11 using apt-get install x11vnc?	04:16
alesan	mh yes, or more comfortably in adept	04:17
alesan	it's called x11vnc	04:17
alexicon	anyone used nx? or xen?	04:18
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leotr	!ru	04:20
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ubotu	#ubuntu-ru / Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke	04:20
abrahao	<alesan> and to install ssh can I use apt-get install ssh?	04:20
epimeth	well... another day has ended... adios folks!	04:21
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ForgeAus	YAY starcraft 2 is announced.. finally!	04:26
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ForgeAus	um but it doesn't look like theres likely to be any *nix support ... I could be wrong	04:26
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DJServers	yo	04:27
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alexicon	if blizzard didnt support wow they wont support anything for linux...	04:29
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alexicon	unfortunately :P	04:29
haydar_	MACOS	04:30
haydar_	but no linux	04:30
haydar_	omg	04:30
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caa1980	hi	04:36
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caa1980	how do i get the mingw gui to work in Kubuntu 7.04	04:37
caa1980	how do i get the mingw gui to work in Kubuntu 7.04?	04:37
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ubunturos	what is wrong with GCC 4.0?	04:37
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caa1980	how do i get the mingw gui to work in Kubuntu 7.04? It's a C++ compiler that looks like visual c++	04:38
caa1980	I prefer something that looks like what I am used to	04:38
nuu	suppose i'm browsing a remote samba share, full of avi files, using the smb protocol in konqueror. Also assume i don't want to use smb4k or generally mount the filesystem locally, i want to use it remotely without mounting it. if i want vlc (my default video player) to stream the file without first downloading it, i have to "open with ..." and pass it "wxvlc %u". How can i make this the default choice for every .avi file on a smb share ?	04:39
nuu	ie, the one that you get when double clicking the file, without having to "open with..->wxvlc" every time	04:39
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caa1980	I'd like a IDE that looks like visual c++	04:39
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lupul	!process	04:40
sparr	caa1980: how is it not working?	04:40
nuu	"remember application association for this type of file" didnt work, by the way	04:40
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	04:40
lupul	does anyoe know the command to list the processes?	04:40
sparr	lupul: ps	04:40
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lupul	the entire command :D	04:40
caa1980	I downloaded the mingw package but dosen't show in the K menue	04:40
sparr	thats it	04:40
pag	lupul, ps -A ?	04:41
DJServers	!pastine	04:41
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pastine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	04:41
DJServers	or what what it?	04:41
DJServers	the paste site of ubuntu?	04:41
pag	!paste \| DJServers	04:41
lupul	i mean the one something like this	04:41
ubotu	DJServers: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	04:41
lupul	grep \| ....	04:41
DJServers	thx	04:41
pag	lupul, not sure what you mean... you could try ps -A \| grep TheThingYouWantToSearchFor	04:42
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lupul	that's it	04:42
caa1980	Plus my college classes use visual c++ but that's only on windows and I prefer linux.	04:42
lupul	thanks very much	04:42
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caa1980	so how do I get IDE GUI that looks like Visual c++?	04:43
pag	caa1980, I never used VS2005, but you miht want to have a look at KDevelop, it's quite nice IDE	04:44
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caa1980	it's to KDE	04:44
abrahao	<alesan> cant find package called x11vnc via apt-get install	04:44
caa1980	minGW looks like visual basic if only I could get it in my K menue and up and working.	04:44
caa1980	alesan try just vnc	04:45
pag	caa1980, try to launch it from Run Dialog ( alt + F2 )	04:45
llutz	caa1980: if it is installed and runs, just use kmenueedit to add it to your k-menu	04:45
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caa1980	if I new the command to lounch it i would	04:45
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alesan	what is the server that adds skype to the list of available programs?	04:46
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caa1980	and i tride "mingw" and nothen came up.	04:46
iarwain_	hiya there, anyone know how to mount a crashed hard drive? (partition is labelled SFS-type by fdisk, and not found in my /dev/sdb's )	04:46
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sparr	packages.ubuntu.com down?	04:47
cristina		04:47
caa1980	no	04:47
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caa1980	I guise there is no answer to my question then.	04:48
sparr	then im having an insanely specific internet failure	04:48
llutz	caa1980: "dpkg -L mingw32\|grep /bin/"	04:48
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llutz	caa1980: if mingw32 is the packagename	04:49
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caa1980	ok and now what?	04:49
llutz	caa1980: now you see the installed executables	04:49
egocarmen	felix my friend his name is felix	04:50
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llutz	caa1980: and maybe a look into the documentation would be helpfull	04:50
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lupul	which is the command to search for one process in all active?	04:50
egocarmen	felix: felix my friend his name is felix	04:50
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caa1980	mingw32msvc-c++	04:50
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iarwain_	lupul: try 'ps -aux \|grep processname'	04:51
lupul	ok thanks	04:51
sercanii	hi, my usb host device stops responding when I boot my computer with any usb plugin device... kubuntu, ubuntu ( all ubuntu dist.s ) (some linux dist this eror not occur), thanks	04:51
caa1980	/usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-g++	04:51
caa1980	/usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-c++	04:52
caa1980	/usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gcov	04:52
caa1980	/usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gccbug	04:52
caa1980	/usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-cpp	04:52
caa1980	/usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gcc	04:52
caa1980	/usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gcc-3.4.5	04:52
caa1980	/usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-cc	04:52
caa1980	that's all i get	04:52
caa1980	thats tell's me nothing	04:53
iarwain_	noone knows how to get a lost partition back? (i tried testdisk)	04:53
llutz	caa1980: read docu	04:53
caa1980	other then the compilers are there dosen't tell me ho to get the mingw gui to come up	04:53
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caa1980	i guise this was no help	04:55
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llutz	caa1980: according to the mingw32 homepage, there is no GUI	04:56
caa1980	thats not true	04:56
caa1980	I have seen it	04:56
BluesKaj	iarwain_, did you install windows after ubuntu ?	04:56
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caa1980	maybe i'll use eclipse	04:56
pag	caa1980, umm... where? Have you got a link?	04:56
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iarwain_	BluesKaj: i did not install anything, my partition just got lost (it is the hard-drive of a NAS tbh) when i tried mounting it	04:56
Ace2016	Hi all	04:57
llutz	caa1980: fine, go back where you've seen it, read docu and use it	04:57
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iarwain_	Ace2016: hiya there =)	04:57
Ace2016	How do i make the ok in the startup process of kubuntu like this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=49074&file1=49074-1.png&file2=49074-2.png&file3=49074-3.png&name=Gentoo+Splash	04:57
Ace2016	all my text is white :(	04:57
llutz	caa1980: http://www.mingw.org/	04:57
caa1980	MinGW Studio	04:58
dhq	fdoving, i want to play music from my laptop and it should stream on my pc at the same time something like esd i want amarok to use the feature please help	04:58
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BluesKaj	!grub \| iarwain_	04:58
ubotu	iarwain_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	04:58
iarwain_	Ace2016: i have NO idea, 'd like to know it myself too =)	04:58
Ace2016	dhq: use vlc, it can stream stuff like that	04:58
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iarwain_	BluesKaj: i did not lose grub, i lost a partition -_-'	04:58
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BluesKaj	lost the partition or just access to it ?	04:59
dhq	Ace2016, i am faraway from that pc	04:59
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iarwain_	BluesKaj: access for sure, partition i do not know (altough fdisk list it as a SFS type, but has a questionmark next to it)	04:59
dhq	!esd	05:00
ubotu	esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead	05:00
BluesKaj	dhq, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)	05:00
DJServers	ehm.... what is the chmod command i forgot it it something like: chmod FILE MODE	05:00
DJServers	i dont now it	05:01
Ace2016	dhq: but you have network right? then a player on your laptop can tune into it	05:01
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iarwain_	DJServers: chmod +x filename	05:01
iarwain_	DJServers: for example =)	05:01
DJServers	ok\	05:01
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BluesKaj	SFS ?	05:01
dhq	Ace2016, i wanna play music on my laptop and make my other machine as speakers cauz i have good speakers	05:02
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BluesKaj	iarwain_, so your partiton doesn't have a designation like hd0,1 or hda, sda	05:02
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iarwain_	BluesKaj: indeed. It has /dev/sdb6 assigned, but that file doesn't exist	05:04
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morpheus_	anyone know how to make a bootable kubuntu USB pen drive?	05:06
DJServers	This normally involves CHMODing them 777. i need to to that what is the command for that?	05:08
llutz	DJServers: chmod 777 file-to-change	05:09
DJServers	ok	05:09
iarwain_	DJServers: try 'chmod 777 filename'	05:09
llutz	DJServers: or chmod -R 777 directory-to-change-with-subs	05:09
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Daisuke-Ido	morpheus_: about a minute of googling would have netter you this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/	05:09
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Jucato	!install	05:09
ubotu	Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate	05:09
alexicon	anyone here tried the jboss suite?	05:09
morpheus_	just having a look, does that cover kubuntu too?	05:10
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Daisuke-Ido	i would imagine since ubuntu and kubuntu have identical live cd structures...	05:10
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DJServers	ok it works thx	05:10
morpheus_	cheers	05:10
Jucato	morpheus_: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent	05:10
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iarwain_	morpheus_: kubuntu is the same as ubuntu (just the DE differs)	05:11
nuu	ace2016	05:11
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quanti	bonjour, je voulais savoir comment installer de nouvelles icones (tlcharges sur gnome-look.org) pour le bureau gnome ?	05:12
pag	!fr \| quanti	05:12
ubotu	quanti: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	05:12
dugar	Hola	05:13
quanti	oops i'm sorry i thought i was on the french channel	05:13
Ace2016	nuu: yea?	05:13
nuu	you gotta use setterm for that	05:13
nuu	just read your question about colors in init scripts	05:13
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Ace2016	nuu: does setterm require kernel patches?	05:14
nuu	don't think so, just try it on your console locally, and see :)	05:15
nuu	try for instance setterm -foreground=yellow and see what happens	05:15
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haydar_	man :(	05:17
haydar_	i'm sad	05:17
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haydar_	10-23 FPS	05:18
haydar_	on WoW	05:18
haydar_	windows = 50-70 fps	05:18
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haydar_	;[ cedega	05:18
llutz	haydar_: use win	05:18
haydar_	nope	05:18
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justin_	hello?	05:20
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Ace2016	nuu: cool thanks, but how do i get it to work in konsole? nothing happens when i try setterm there	05:21
Ace2016	it works in F1	05:21
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nuu	init scripts are run in a terminal, not under a virtual terminal like konsole	05:22
ejupin	I cant see KDE desktop, just wallpaper. How do I reset/reinstall? Gnome works fine	05:22
Ace2016	oh	05:22
justin_	I'm having a strange problem. About 1hr+ after using any bittorrent client (Ktorrent Azereus), the computer becomes unresponsive, slow and the internet kicks off.	05:23
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Ace2016	justin_: try reducing the number of connections, this might help	05:25
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DJServers	how can i see my network ip?	05:26
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DJServers	not the lan ip but the network ip	05:26
leotr	where is it possible to download kde-i18n-ru?	05:27
rbrunhuber	DJServers : what do you mean with network ip?	05:27
llutz	DJServers: http://www.ipheaven.com/	05:27
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leotr	...package	05:27
DJServers	whell the ip like: 192.168.1.100 but we have more PC's so where can i see that ip of this PC	05:28
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justin_	Ace2016, I'll try but the problem just started a little bit after installing Feisty.	05:28
llutz	DJServers: ifconfig	05:28
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llutz	DJServers: or "ip add show"	05:29
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DJServers	ok i got it	05:29
korobase	Hi,all. a problem about playing the avi file!	05:29
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korobase	When I play,it only have audio but no vedio.	05:30
korobase	What is wrong?	05:30
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korobase	Please help me.All friends!!!!!!	05:31
morpheus_	<korobase>what are you playing it with?	05:31
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alexicon	wow picasa is awesome!	05:31
Daisuke-Ido	korobase: get the proper codecs or use VLC.	05:32
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korobase	kaffeine.	05:32
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lacrymology	excuse me	05:32
korobase	VLC.what?	05:32
morpheus_	ahhh, install vlc then	05:32
lacrymology	how do I add repos to the sources?	05:32
Daisuke-Ido	VLC	05:32
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lacrymology	e.g: how do I add Universe and Multiverse?	05:32
Daisuke-Ido	lacrymology: open adept and go to manage repositories	05:32
lacrymology	I was used to the gnome distro and I can't find it	05:32
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lacrymology	Daisuke-Ido: ok	05:33
DJFrankie	DJServers here	05:33
DJFrankie	i restarted my internet but now the name DJServers is still in use :P	05:33
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Daisuke-Ido	bummer	05:33
lacrymology	Daisuke-Ido: I dont see manage repositories in adept..	05:34
Daisuke-Ido	didn't quit konversation before restarting your connection, it seems	05:34
_6StringKng_	just get it formt he konsole, instructions are on the site	05:34
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Daisuke-Ido	lacrymology: adept manager > Adept > Manage Repositories	05:34
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lacrymology	so	05:38
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lacrymology	is there any sensible way of mantaining a linux distro without an internet connection	05:38
lacrymology	like..	05:38
Daisuke-Ido	um	05:38
lacrymology	let's say I want to install something... are there any pre-arranged ber packages that will have all dependencies?	05:38
Ace2016	How do i get kubuntu to show the mount dialogue? i think i broke it	05:38
nuu	Ace2016: perhaps this could also be interesting, haven't tried it though. maybe you wanna take a look: http://madchicken.altervista.org/tech/2006/02/put-colours-in-your-ubuntu-startup-and.html	05:39
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lacrymology	because it's enough of a pain to have to burn CDs at work, but bringing them home only to realize I forgot the asc012-2001.93.104-2.4.567 package it's quite annoying	05:39
icecruncher	what does it mean when it says "SSL support is needed for MSN. Please install a supported SSL library." reffering to pidgin	05:40
icecruncher	what do i have to install	05:40
lacrymology	icecruncher: it means exactly that, you need to install ssl	05:40
icecruncher	how	05:40
lacrymology	open adept and search for ssl	05:40
Daisuke-Ido	lacrymology: you have no internet connection at home?	05:40
lacrymology	I think you have to instal TLS, but I'm not sure. Give me a sec	05:40
lacrymology	Daisuke-Ido: nopes	05:40
Daisuke-Ido	ouch	05:40
Ace2016	nuu: thanks, looks like i'll have to edit it by hand using that as a referance	05:41
nuu	np	05:41
Daisuke-Ido	well, you can always use aptitude from a live cd at work, save the /vat/cache/apt/archives directory to a usb drive and do it that way...	05:41
Daisuke-Ido	sp/vat/var	05:42
Ace2016	Anyone know how to edit the startup process order? the login tty console starts too early before other processes and it messes up the tty1 display	05:42
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Jucato	lacrymology: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/	05:42
nuu	Ace2016: the debian initscript startup order is defined by the number after the S in the name	05:42
lacrymology	icecruncher: I can't find it, I'm running the liveCD right now	05:42
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icecruncher	lacrymology: k	05:42
lacrymology	but google for SSL and debian	05:42
nuu	the higher the number, the later the script gets executed	05:42
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Daisuke-Ido	ooh, i hadn't heard about apt on cd	05:43
nuu	infact rc.local, which typically is executed last on every distro, is named S99rc.local	05:43
lacrymology	icecruncher: or try apt-get install ssl maybe you'll get lucky	05:43
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Ace2016	nuu: thanks i found them using locate	05:44
lacrymology	icecruncher: that's "sudo apt-get install ssl" or "sudo apt-get instal libssl" on a terminal	05:44
nuu	Ace2016: bear in mind you need to consider the runlevel too, when changing order. and be careful not to break anything. the order is there typically because there often are dependencies with earlier scripts	05:44
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dcorbin	Which package contains gvim?	05:44
Jucato	!info gvim	05:45
ubotu	Package gvim does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	05:45
Jucato	hm...	05:45
nuu	Ace2016: you can see your current runlevel by typing runlevel in a terminal. typically you're runlevel 2 which is full multiuser runlevel. runlevel 1 is single-user level, and 3-5 are same as 2, while 6 is reboot	05:45
SlimeyPete	dcorbin: do an "apt-cache search gvim"	05:45
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kane_	has anyone been succesfull in getting a Nvidia TV-out to work correctly with fiesty/	05:45
jeff_	HI, all	05:45
nuu	so if you're planning to make changes in the startup order, generally you want to do them under /etc/rc2.d	05:45
alexicon	yeah kane_	05:45
kane_	it worked great in 6.10	05:45
Jucato	dcorbin: try installing vim-full	05:46
nuu	which contains init scripts order for runlevel 2	05:46
Daisuke-Ido	i would be so much happier if aptoncd were available in a QT variant :\	05:46
alexicon	works fine for me on fx5200 twinview	05:46
korobase	I have install the vlc.But It have another problem when I play the avi file the screen is flicked.	05:46
kane_	alexicon: did you have to do anything special?	05:46
alexicon	just copied my xorg.conf over from edgy	05:46
korobase	flickering all the time.	05:46
jeff_	I'm not sure where the best place is to find this information, so please point me in the right direction if this isn't the channel for this.	05:46
Ace2016	nuu: i wish i could just get initng to work, that was nice but never found out how to get my network to start	05:46
nuu	Ace2016: as a rule of thumb, cp -Rp /etc/rc2.d /etc/rc2.d-bak	05:46
kane_	hrm, mine must just hate me.	05:46
alexicon	the restricted driver manager got nv drivers setup perfectly @_@	05:46
jeff_	I'm looking for a feeling for when Pidgin will show up for installation in Feisty.	05:46
Daisuke-Ido	korobase: are you trying to play xvids on a 486 or something?	05:46
jeff_	From what I read, I'	05:47
jeff_	er.. I'm waiting for it to be backported so it'	05:47
jeff_	grr. So it'll show up in Apt.	05:47
kane_	yeah ive got the drivers installed, it just wont detect the fact that the TV is indeed connected.	05:47
korobase	Daisuke-Ido:no.I use my notebook.	05:47
nuu	Ace2016: what do you mean you can't get your network to start ?	05:47
jeff_	Sorry for the carriage returns. I keep hitting enter when I want single quote.	05:47
alexicon	kane_: drivers are working?	05:48
korobase	How to fix this problem.All friends.	05:48
alexicon	glxgears and glxinfo works?	05:48
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kane_	yeah they work.	05:48
kane_	i can play 3d games.	05:48
kane_	etc	05:48
kane_	nvidia-settings works.	05:48
alexicon	hrm	05:48
Ace2016	nuu: just that whenever i booted with initng my network wouldn't work, i guess i need to add something, eth0 is what i'm using to connect to the router now	05:48
alexicon	configuration problem? you looked at xorg errors?	05:48
alexicon	still have your working xorg.conf from last time?	05:49
nuu	Ace2016: if you're planning to add custom network scripts, consider to make your changes in a script that starts after the networking initscript	05:49
kane_	yeah the only error is the the fact that it appears that ubuntu did not compile the Xorg int10 module in for somereason.	05:49
nuu	check /etc/rcS.d, see how networking starts #40	05:49
kane_	no i dont have the config file still, but it was one generated by nvidia-settings anyway.	05:50
DJFrankie	can someone check if my new site works? (hosted on this PC) www.dj-habbo.us.tt	05:50
alexicon	ok	05:50
alexicon	can you copy your xorg.conf to the pastebin kane_	05:50
alexicon	!pastebin	05:50
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	05:50
alexicon	>_>	05:50
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cyt	!grub \| cyt	05:50
DJFrankie	can someone look if this link works plz... : www.dj-habbo.us.tt	05:50
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Ace2016	nuu: i guess i could edit the net script itself, copy the lo section and make a new eth section	05:51
pescez	hello everybody!!	05:51
pescez	is there anyone able to tell me how to set a usb pendrive's label without formatting it?	05:51
DJFrankie	thx for not looking -_-'	05:51
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kane_	alexicon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21835/	05:52
nuu	Ace2016: modify your interface settings in /etc/network/interfaces	05:52
nuu	it's pretty easy to grasp	05:52
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Ace2016	nuu: its already setup, it has auto eth0 already	05:53
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nuu	Ace2016: check "dmesg \| grep eth0" for hints	05:54
sercanii	DJFrankie - it works	05:54
morpheus_	lacrymology>djfrankie, seems fine to me	05:54
nuu	anyway, 6pm, home time	05:54
nuu	later guys	05:54
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morpheus_	duh!	05:54
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pescez	...	05:54
jeff_	DJFrankie: e107 is installed.	05:54
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DJFrankie	ok	05:56
DJFrankie	thx	05:56
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ReMiiRuru	What is a command to list all processes?	05:59
llutz	ReMiiRuru: ps -aux	06:00
SlimeyPete	ps -aux	06:00
Jucato	ps aux	06:00
lustrousrodent	something like ps	06:00
raylu	lol	06:00
lustrousrodent	O_o	06:00
llutz	Jucato: you win :)	06:00
lustrousrodent	i lose	06:00
Jucato	or Ctrl+Esc to launch the GUI version	06:00
ReMiiRuru	Thanks	06:00
Jucato	I lostto llutz :)	06:00
Jucato	lost to*	06:00
DJFrankie	look at my site now i have installled a new theme: www.dj-habbo.us.tt	06:00
llutz	Jucato: "ps -a " = bad syntax	06:01
llutz	Jucato: "ps a" = preferred	06:01
Jucato	hm.. ok... :)	06:01
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raylu	ew. e107	06:03
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Lilacor	Anyone using KVM +NVIDIA?	06:06
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Lilacor	I've read that this isn''t possible because the nvidia drivers conflict with paravirt. :(	06:06
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Lilacor	I'd like to hear any opinions on this....	06:06
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close2	hello, do you have an idea, how to find out, why "cat 3MB-file > /dev/null" could take ~10 seconds	06:07
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close2	it used to work, works under a rescue-cd	06:07
close2	and dma and 32bit is on (hdparm)	06:07
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markm_	The module Disk & Filesystems could not be loaded...	06:08
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markm_	i see a few posts with this problem. Aby resolution?	06:09
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markm_	seems like i wasted a cd on Ubuntu... back to Gentoo...	06:14
billytwowilly	Hi, can anyone point me to something talking about how to replace a software raid 5 array with bigger disks?	06:14
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Jucato	markm_: try reinstalling the package named "kde-guidance"	06:14
markm_	tried it	06:15
markm_	hardinfo->storage devices also crashes	06:15
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danny500	Hey, I need a little help	06:16
danny500	trying to install ATI graphics driver	06:17
danny500	anyone?	06:17
jussi01	danny500: whats the problem?	06:17
danny500	!pastebin	06:17
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:17
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talius31	Hi everyone	06:17
danny500	ok look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21847/	06:18
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danny500	does this mean it's installed?	06:18
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danny500	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21847/	06:19
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talius31	is someone know where can i find the file where's stored the global variables? the export command doesn't work weel and i really don't know what file to check :/	06:19
Daisuke-Ido	enough spamming, it's now visible twice without scrolling.	06:19
danny500	sorry	06:19
Daisuke-Ido	are those the newest drivers?	06:19
Ace2016	markm_: what setttings in kcontrol are you after? i would have thought a former gentoo user would never have used such a thing ;)	06:19
Daisuke-Ido	and did those come from the feisty repo or ati's site?	06:20
danny500	the only drivers for this machine	06:20
danny500	newest	06:20
danny500	no it came for ati's site	06:20
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Daisuke-Ido	64 bit	06:20
danny500	both	06:20
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Pouzy	Hi	06:20
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Daisuke-Ido	k...	06:20
Ace2016	hi	06:20
danny500	it can install 64 or 32 bit	06:20
Daisuke-Ido	tried xorg-driver-fglrx yet?	06:21
Pouzy	Euh, my login is owned by someone else.. maybe it was me some times before : How can i do to send the password by mail ?	06:21
Daisuke-Ido	Pouzy: they expire after 30 days, it's probably someone else now.	06:22
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Flosoft	hi	06:22
Flosoft	has anyone got KDE 4 Alpha running?	06:22
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danny500	"tried xorg-driver-fglrx yet?" how do I do that?	06:23
Daisuke-Ido	as i'm not a kde developer, and it's, as you said, alpha, most people aren't in any position to screw with it	06:23
lerneaen_hydra	random check: there's no support for labelflash in *nix at the moment yet, right?	06:23
mzanfardino1	I've played around with Xubuntu and like the weather forecast applet. Is there a similar applet available for KDE?	06:23
Daisuke-Ido	danny500: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver fglrx	06:23
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markm_	bloody hell half the system apps crash. this is crap. goodbye ubuntu!	06:24
danny500	E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver	06:24
raylu	danny500, sudo aptitude install xorg-drivere-fglrx	06:24
Daisuke-Ido	oops	06:24
danny500	mark_:stop your whining it's how you use the machine it's not the apps	06:24
Daisuke-Ido	danny500: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx	06:24
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markm_	rubbish. i've used slackware, redhat and gentoo.	06:24
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Daisuke-Ido	markm_: have fun with your virus-ridden windows :)	06:25
danny500	yes have fun	06:25
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Daisuke-Ido	and good riddance. if people aren't willing to learn, they should stick with the system geared toward the lowest common denominator	06:25
danny500	I've benn using ubuntu for 6 months without turning off, so go play wit h you week windows	06:25
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danny500	to use ubuntu you need to know how to read	06:26
llutz	danny500: not only for ubuntu....	06:26
danny500	if your not good at following instructions then ubuntu won't work for you	06:26
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pescez	!pastebin	06:26
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:26
danny500	I know	06:26
Pouzy	Daisuke-Ido: really strange.	06:26
mzanfardino	!mdeiubuntu	06:26
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mdeiubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:26
Pouzy	Ok, it doesn't matter	06:26
jhutchins	!mediabuntu	06:26
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:26
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raylu	...	06:27
Daisuke-Ido	!medibuntu	06:27
ubotu	medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/	06:27
Daisuke-Ido	\o/	06:27
danny500	ok now what?	06:27
Pouzy	I just wanted to know : I've installed the fglrx drivers yesterday, how can I know if they work with the 3D ?	06:27
Daisuke-Ido	danny500: got it installed?	06:27
mzanfardino	Daisuke-Ido: thanks	06:27
danny500	what installed?	06:27
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Daisuke-Ido	xorg-driver-fglrx	06:27
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danny500	I did that code you told me	06:28
danny500	so guessing yes	06:28
Daisuke-Ido	and it installed it	06:28
Daisuke-Ido	you did that in a terminal right, not with the run command dialog	06:28
danny500	how do I do that?	06:28
danny500	I'm running terminal	06:28
raylu	danny500, did it say it installed?	06:28
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danny500	Reading package lists... Done	06:29
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danny500	Building dependency tree	06:29
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danny500	Reading state information... Done	06:29
danny500	E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver	06:29
danny500	danny500@netkiller:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx	06:29
danny500	Reading package lists... Done	06:29
danny500	Building dependency tree	06:29
danny500	Reading state information... Done	06:29
danny500	xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.	06:29
danny500	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	06:29
Daisuke-Ido	you're already using the proprietary drivers then	06:29
Daisuke-Ido	and in the future, use pastebin :)	06:30
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danny500	I know	06:30
Daisuke-Ido	so... what else is there to do?	06:30
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danny500	I don't want the proprietary driver's, they suck, I want the ones I downloaded	06:30
Daisuke-Ido	the ones you downloaded... from ati	06:31
danny500	yes	06:31
Daisuke-Ido	those are proprietary drivers.	06:31
Daisuke-Ido	the same ones, i might add	06:31
danny500	oh ok well they don't work so well	06:31
danny500	I can't get beryl to work	06:31
Daisuke-Ido	ati in linux is a joke so far, hopefully amd is committed to fixing that, probably not.	06:31
danny500	I have a 512MB graphics card	06:31
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Daisuke-Ido	danny500: doesn't matter if the card's great, if the drivers suck	06:32
danny500	ATI Radeon x550	06:32
Daisuke-Ido	and ati's drivers DO suck	06:32
danny500	with a AMD 64 Athlon 3200+	06:32
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danny500	how do I get beryl to work then?	06:33
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_6StringKng_	yeah I wish ATI and Beryl worked like it does with nvidia, lol	06:33
bsundsrud	danny500: IF You can get the drivers working, you can MAYBE use beryl with XGL...	06:33
danny500	ok I'll try that thanks	06:33
bsundsrud	but XGL is a huge pain in the butt	06:33
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bsundsrud	it sucks compared to AIGLX, so much slower	06:34
Ace2016	oh i have an nvidia	06:35
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bsundsrud	?	06:35
Ace2016	??	06:36
bsundsrud	why not use AIGLX with an nvidia card?	06:36
mzanfardino	how about it guys? Anyone aware of a weather forecast applet for KDE?	06:36
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Ace2016	mzanfardino: have a look at kde-look.org	06:36
bsundsrud	forecast? i know of one that tells current weather... and also the liquid weather superkaramba applet	06:37
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Ace2016	mzanfardino: something like this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Grass+--+liquid+weather+background?content=56164	06:37
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sebsebseb	Feisty Fawn Grub has screwed up and cannot boot into it, on the Dapper Live CD, and have tryed to fix it. Getting Grub Error 17	06:42
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raylu	sebsebseb, show us your menu.lst	06:44
sebsebseb	on a Live CD	06:45
sebsebseb	so how to get the one for the install?	06:45
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raylu	sebsebseb, mount your linux boot partition	06:50
sebsebseb	carn't remember how to do that	06:50
sebsebseb	how?	06:50
Pouzy	Hi there !	06:51
Pouzy	Just : How can I know if the 3D is on on my computer ?	06:51
raylu	Pouzy, 3d acceleration?	06:52
raylu	!mount \| sebsebseb	06:52
ubotu	sebsebseb: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter	06:52
raylu	o.0...that's a bit overcomplicated	06:52
raylu	you can just use the mount command.	06:52
raylu	sudo mkdir [partition name]	06:52
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raylu	sudo mount /dev/[partition name] [partition name]	06:53
pag	Pouzy, do you mean glxinfo \| grep -i direct ?	06:53
sebsebseb	partion name?	06:53
raylu	sebsebseb, do you know the name of the partition? like sda1 or something	06:54
raylu	qtparted will show you the name	06:54
sebsebseb	sda1 well really on Ubuntu Live CD. so Gparted	06:54
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raylu	ok. so go and mount that	06:54
sebsebseb	/dev/sda1	06:55
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Pouzy	pag :	06:55
Pouzy	Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".	06:55
Pouzy	direct rendering: No	06:55
Pouzy	OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect	06:55
Pouzy	Here it goes	06:55
Pouzy	? i think there isnt' the 3D ?	06:55
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pag	Pouzy, you're right :-/	06:56
Pouzy	Ok. I'll try out after.	06:56
Pouzy	I just want to know something else :	06:56
Pouzy	How can i compile a C program with linux ? I've got C lessons and I need to compile some	06:57
Pouzy	to see if it works	06:57
raylu	Pouzy, gcc	06:57
raylu	actually, there are a lot of c compilers	06:58
raylu	sebsebseb, is it working now?	06:58
sebsebseb	said /dev/sda1 already exists	06:58
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raylu	sebsebseb, are you in /media?	06:58
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sebsebseb	no I was about to say, I need to tell it to use the installation not LIve CD?	06:58
Pouzy	raylu: i've tried to open gcc, but it didn't work. How to use it !gcc	06:58
Pouzy	!gcc	06:58
ubotu	Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)	06:58
raylu	sebsebseb, it = ?	06:58
raylu	Pouzy, gcc = gnu c compiler, i believe	06:59
sebsebseb	ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /dev/sda1	06:59
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raylu	sebsebseb, cd /media first	06:59
sebsebseb	mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/sda1': File exists	06:59
raylu	then sudo mkdir sda	06:59
sebsebseb	ok :)	06:59
raylu	*sudo mkdir sda1	06:59
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llutz	Pouzy: gcc is a commandline-app, no gui so far. info with "man gcc"	06:59
raylu	you can't make /dev/sda1. that represents your hd	06:59
Pouzy	llutz: Erf. I need a graphic one, cause i've got my sources on a .txt file	07:00
sebsebseb	permssion denied	07:00
sebsebseb	for sda1	07:00
sebsebseb	dir	07:00
sebsebseb	ok made sda1 dir	07:01
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sebsebseb	ok	07:03
sebsebseb	so what go in that directory	07:03
sebsebseb	and then?	07:03
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raylu	sebsebseb, no, don't	07:05
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raylu	(sorry for the slow reponse time, doing other stuff)	07:05
raylu	stay in /media and	07:05
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raylu	sudo mount /dev/sda1 sda1	07:05
sebsebseb	also I want to make an Ext3 by th eway	07:05
raylu	sebsebseb, so use gtparted	07:05
sebsebseb	well deleting an NTFS screwed it up in the first place I think	07:05
raylu	*gparted	07:05
sebsebseb	and it's got an empty NTFS there at the moment, that I don't want there, I want an Ext3	07:05
raylu	right-click and there should be an option to change to ext3	07:05
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raylu	but i suggest doing this later after you've fixed yoru grub	07:06
raylu	*your	07:06
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sebsebseb	yes	07:08
sebsebseb	,but it could go wrong?	07:08
sebsebseb	and effect Grub again?	07:08
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Ayabara__	I'm trying to connect my dell inspiron 6000 with ati m300 graphics to an lcd tv. all I've done this far is connecting it, and the tv says out of range. can someone help me out?	07:08
sebsebseb	ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 sda1	07:09
sebsebseb	/dev/sda1 looks like swapspace - not mounted	07:09
sebsebseb	mount: you must specify the filesystem type	07:09
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sebsebseb	ok so what's the next command?	07:09
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sebsebseb	it's mounted	07:09
sebsebseb	well no	07:10
sebsebseb	iot's not	07:10
sebsebseb	I got an error mesaghe about swap	07:10
sebsebseb	well it might be mounted	07:10
raylu	lol, as i figured	07:10
Ayabara__	do I need to install the drivers from ati?	07:10
raylu	partition 1 was swapspace, so it's probably 2	07:10
raylu	sudo mkdir sda2 \| sudo mount /dev/sda2 sda2	07:10
sebsebseb	ok	07:10
raylu	!ati \| Ayabara__	07:11
ubotu	Ayabara__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	07:11
raylu	Ayabara__, you don't need to, but it's betteter	07:11
sebsebseb	mount: mount point sda2 does not exist	07:11
Ayabara__	raylu: ok. you know how I can even get started with VGA out on my laptop? haven't found anything to configure yet...	07:12
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Zabulus	hey sebsebseb, try typing glxgears in console, see what fps it shows	07:12
sebsebseb	according to Gparted. sda 1 swap sda 3 extended sda5 ext3	07:12
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sebsebseb	so it's sda5?	07:13
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raylu	Ayabara__, for me, i just plugged it in and it worked	07:13
sebsebseb	fps?	07:13
raylu	sebsebseb, probably	07:13
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Zabulus	frames per second	07:13
sebsebseb	gixgears command not found	07:14
kristjan_	hey, suggest good application/ easy to use app for creating short video of 50pngs	07:14
raylu	*glx	07:14
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Ayabara__	raylu: ok. do you have ati? did you install the non-free driver?	07:14
raylu	Ayabara__, no, i have intel on this one. but i had an nv and an ati on other 2 computers and, before installing anything, i could output to a monitor	07:14
raylu	Ayabara__, try plugging it in before booting	07:15
sebsebseb	ok sda5 seems to be mounted now	07:15
raylu	sebsebseb, ok, go in there and show us /boot/grub/menu.lst	07:15
raylu	i don't get you're numbering though...1,3,5, lol	07:15
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sebsebseb	neither do I	07:15
sebsebseb	there seems to be no	07:15
sebsebseb	2 or 4	07:15
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Ayabara__	raylu: thanks for the tip. plugging in after booting was no success.	07:16
raylu	its happened to me and i don't understand it either. i usually just try reconfiguring until it's sequential	07:16
sebsebseb	ok	07:16
Ayabara__	I'll try rebooting and then installing the free driver if that doesn't work (or maybe anyway)	07:16
raylu	Ayabara__, there may also be a crt/lcd button on your keyboard (fn) or it may be squares	07:16
raylu	i doubt its a driver issue, though	07:17
Ayabara__	raylu: the button is there, but it had no effect	07:17
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raylu	woo...i just crashed konversation	07:17
raylu	that was strange.	07:17
Ayabara__	raylu: why not a driver issue? is there a layer above that decides on the resolution, timing and stuff?	07:18
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raylu	Ayabara__, i didn't need to install my specific driver before outputting...wait a sec	07:18
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raylu	i had a laptop and i think that one was nv...the desktop was avi, so maybe that's why i didn't need the driver to output to a monitor	07:19
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raylu	*the desktop was ati	07:19
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raylu	i'm not too clear on this :(	07:19
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Ayabara__	raylu: ok. I see that I have the option to configure a secondary display in "Monitor and Display" in system settings.	07:20
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Ayabara__	anyway. I'll try the reboot thingy first.	07:20
Ayabara__	thanks	07:20
raylu	np, good luck	07:20
spark_	hoi	07:20
leonardo_terni	hi guys	07:21
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sebsebseb	here it is:	07:21
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sebsebseb	http://www.pastebin.co.uk/14896	07:21
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spark_	anyone can help me with playing flash sound in firefox please? :)	07:21
ilona	nope.. sorry	07:22
raylu	flash sound?	07:22
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raylu	do you get any other sound in ff?	07:22
sebsebseb	raylu: http://www.pastebin.co.uk/14896	07:22
pag	spark_, are you using dapper?	07:22
raylu	sebsebseb, i saw it	07:22
spark_	uhm i don't think so. which other plugins can play sound?	07:22
spark_	no i use feisty	07:23
sebsebseb	ok so I guess it's currupted?	07:23
sebsebseb	and needs editing	07:23
sebsebseb	?	07:23
raylu	sebsebseb, are you sure this is your installed menu.lst? it should be in /media/sda5/boot/grub/menu.lst	07:23
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raylu	sebsebseb, was this from /boot/grub/menu.lst or /media/sda5/boot/grub/menu.lst?	07:24
raylu	spark_, try going to a site with background music	07:24
spark_	i installed flash plugin as ubuntuusers.de says but i just can't hear any sound with e.g. youtube	07:24
sebsebseb	sda5 boot grub	07:24
spark_	hmhm do you have a link?	07:24
raylu	sebsebseb, o.0. do you know anything else about your error? and what was the code again?	07:24
sebsebseb	error 17	07:25
raylu	spark_, no, sorry. try closing firefox, killall artsd, restart firefox	07:25
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spark_	i did it a thousand times before	07:25
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raylu	spa	07:25
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raylu	spark_, your sound is fine in other apps?	07:25
sebsebseb	raylu: error 17	07:25
raylu	sebsebseb, i saw. i think instead of (hd0,5)	07:26
raylu	they should be (hd0,6)	07:26
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sebsebseb	hda0,6 is the NTFS partion that I told you about ealtrier	07:26
raylu	since the /dev numbering starts at 1 but grub numbering starts at 0	07:26
spark_	yipp. really great. but i have to use an own asouncrc to support my 5.1. soundcard	07:26
sebsebseb	sda6 is the NTFS I told you about ealrier	07:26
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raylu	so sda5 is grub's ...wait, that's grub's 4	07:26
raylu	change it to 4 :P	07:26
sebsebseb	remind me how, I can edit that file, been a while, and need to be root	07:27
raylu	spark_, then i'm out of ideas, sorry :p	07:27
spark_	ok doesn't matter thank you	07:27
ilona	okay.. this is to complicated for me :p	07:27
raylu	sebsebseb, kdesu kate, but i'm not sure you need to be root	07:27
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raylu	oh, wait, use gksudo gedit	07:27
sebsebseb	well really on Ubuntu Live CD so gedit	07:27
sebsebseb	yes once cd'd into that directory of course?	07:28
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raylu	no. you can always open the file after starting gedit	07:28
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Ayabara___	raylu: a little better when I booted. I could actually see that the background was blue...	07:28
raylu	actually, cd'ing to that dir will do nothing	07:28
Ayabara___	!restricted	07:28
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	07:28
raylu	Ayabara___, huh?	07:28
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Ayabara___	raylu: the vga out issue	07:29
raylu	you mean that you had some output?	07:29
raylu	i thought you would just have a blank screen or some no input error from the monitor	07:29
Lilacor	I'm core dumping when trying to run kvm, what do I do to resolve this?	07:29
raylu	!kvm	07:29
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:29
raylu	!find kvm	07:29
ubotu	Found: linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server-bigiron, ikvm (and 4 others)	07:29
Ayabara___	yep. it was out of range when I plugged in after boot. garbled blue logon screen when I connected before boot	07:29
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raylu	o.0	07:29
Lilacor	raylu: :-/	07:30
raylu	what is kvm? lol	07:30
sebsebseb	change which bit to what exactly?	07:30
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Lilacor	raylu: kernel-based virtual machine	07:30
raylu	sebsebseb, (hd0,5) to (hd0,4)	07:30
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sebsebseb	all the hd0,5's?	07:30
raylu	Ayabara___, you could try booting into a livecd and seeing the xorg.conf	07:30
raylu	sebsebseb, yes	07:30
raylu	sebsebseb, actually, only the first is fine	07:30
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raylu	sebsebseb, and if it works, change the other 2 also	07:31
sebsebseb	well I changed the 3	07:31
sebsebseb	so save the file and re boot and hopefully Grub will work or?	07:31
raylu	yes. show me the whole line that you changed?	07:32
Ayabara___	how do I run the restricted drivers installer on kubuntu?	07:32
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sebsebseb	I changed the 3 lines with hd,05 to 04	07:32
haydar_	Hmm can anyone help me with Cedega + WoW	07:32
Ayabara___	!restricted	07:32
raylu	sebsebseb, could you copy/paste the whole line?	07:32
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	07:32
Ayabara___	!ati	07:32
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	07:32
raylu	Ayabara___, no idea :P	07:32
haydar_	It works fine until i get ingame	07:32
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haydar_	1 fps	07:32
sebsebseb	i'll pastebin the whole thing again	07:32
haydar_	D: *:(	07:32
sebsebseb	ah just reolized it's in read only in gedit	07:33
sebsebseb	so yes	07:33
JuJuBee	Anybody know if it is possible to use ~ ad the tftproot for tftpd-hpa?	07:33
raylu	haydar_, you may need to install the driver for your graphics card	07:33
sebsebseb	need to gksudo then	07:33
raylu	sebsebseb, oops :(	07:33
JuJuBee	*as	07:33
haydar_	raylu	07:33
haydar_	I already got it installed	07:33
haydar_	Wolfenstein Enemy-territory i get 125 FPS	07:33
haydar_	and on 30+ players 60-90	07:34
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raylu	haydar_, what graphics card are you using and what is the driver specified in xorg.conf?	07:34
haydar_	ATi Radeon 96600	07:34
haydar_	9600*	07:34
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haydar_	fglrx	07:34
raylu	o.0. i've never tried wow, but i think some people said wine worked just fine for it	07:35
haydar_	Well i tried wine	07:35
haydar_	totally crap on wine	07:35
haydar_	Cedega runs fine	07:35
haydar_	like on windows	07:35
raylu	:(	07:35
haydar_	until i login	07:35
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haydar_	then it all stutters very bad	07:35
haydar_	Maybe this is the problem	07:35
haydar_	I installed WoW with wine	07:36
haydar_	and i'm doing this in terminal	07:36
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raylu	possibly. i don't really understand winex since i've never used it	07:36
haydar_	cedega /...../WoW.exe	07:36
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raylu	eh? why not just cd to the directory with wow.exe and cedega from there?	07:37
haydar_	Yea i do that	07:37
haydar_	It works	07:37
haydar_	only the ingame lag	07:37
haydar_	makes it unplayble	07:37
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haydar_	Raylu maybe you know how to trace problems	07:37
raylu	the thing is, if you use cedega /.../WoW.exe, you're starting from whatever other directory	07:37
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raylu	which may not contain the other files WoW references	07:38
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haydar_	C:/Program Files/World Of Warcraft	07:38
hakaisou	opinion: WoW is supported better my vanilla Wine than by cedega	07:38
haydar_	Well maybe it is mine winecfg	07:38
raylu	there is no C:/, so i'm not sure what you mean	07:38
haydar_	drive_c	07:38
haydar_	:p	07:38
haydar_	the one that wine makes	07:38
raylu	~/.wine/drive_c/?	07:38
haydar_	yep	07:39
JuJuBee	Can I use my version of UT2004 from windows to run on linux somehow (natively)?	07:39
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raylu	cd to the wine directory and use just "cedega WoW.exe"	07:39
haydar_	Yep i did it	07:39
haydar_	Same	07:39
raylu	JuJuBee, ...no	07:39
raylu	oh :(	07:39
raylu	haydar_, have you tried winehq's instructions for wow	07:39
JuJuBee	I have to purchase another copy for linux?	07:39
sebsebseb	raylu: here with the changes: http://www.pastebin.co.uk/14901	07:39
haydar_	Yep.	07:39
haydar_	JuJuBee	07:39
raylu	JuJuBee, i thought ut2k4 was free for linux	07:39
haydar_	Free??!!	07:40
haydar_	:p	07:40
hakaisou	raylu: WTF are you smoking?	07:40
JuJuBee	Hmmm. didnt know that...	07:40
hakaisou	and where can I get some?	07:40
raylu	sebsebseb, that looks good.	07:40
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raylu	oh. the demo is free. sorry :P	07:40
hakaisou	there is a linux client?	07:40
haydar_	Just download it from a random ftp/torrent	07:40
sebsebseb	ok so re boot and it should all work fine?	07:41
sebsebseb	boot up Ubuntu again	07:41
hakaisou	raylu, there is a linux client for UT2k4?	07:41
raylu	JuJuBee, does the cd have a linux-installer.sh?	07:41
raylu	hakaisou, http://www.linuxelectrons.com/features/reviews/playing-unreal-tournament-2004-linux	07:41
raylu	sebsebseb, yes	07:41
JuJuBee	Cant find the CD. Ive moved 3x since I bought it...	07:41
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sebsebseb	ok well thanks if it works, if not I am coming back	07:42
hakaisou	native support?	07:42
hakaisou	EPIC WIN!!!!!	07:42
raylu	do you have your cdkey (or does ut2k4 not use those)?	07:42
haydar_	Raylu	07:42
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haydar_	Do you got the url for the turt on winehq	07:42
haydar_	:$	07:42
raylu	ill find it	07:42
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JuJuBee	raylu : have it.	07:43
raylu	JuJuBee, i suppose you could download the cd	07:43
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haydar_	I think i just found the problem	07:43
haydar_	http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6482&iTestingId=11732	07:43
raylu	lol, haydar_, wow is a wine gold application	07:43
raylu	http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6482	07:44
haydar_	Not for 7.04	07:44
hakaisou	works just fine for me	07:44
Ayabara___	hmm. I can't find the restricted drivers manager for kubuntu anywhere. maybe it doesn't exist?	07:44
raylu	oh. no idea then :(	07:44
raylu	Ayabara___, afaik, it doesn't	07:44
haydar_	Really i'm getting emo	07:44
haydar_	:(	07:44
Ayabara___	and of course now I found it	07:44
Ayabara___	actually	07:44
hakaisou	i've only had one issue with it in that I can't change my video settings in game lest i crash the game, but i got them preconfigured	07:44
raylu	lol? where is it, Ayabara___?	07:44
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Ayabara___	"sudo restricted-manager"	07:44
raylu	o.0	07:45
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raylu	ah. must be installed	07:45
raylu	good to know for later	07:45
Ayabara___	raylu: after doing "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager" like the ati howto said	07:45
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haydar_	Thats not the problem here	07:45
haydar_	It runs 100% fine	07:45
haydar_	until it gets ingame	07:46
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haydar_	Wish i could trace the problem	07:46
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JohnM	Hi, i was following the instructions on this guide (http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/liste_portables/toshiba_satellite_pro_p-100-420) to get sound on my laptop, but when i run the 3rd last command in the "rgler le problme de son" section i get 'Error 1' from the 'make' instruction, anyone know what's going wrong?	07:49
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sebsebseb	still coming	07:55
sebsebseb	up with error 17	07:55
sebsebseb	:(	07:55
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haydar_	[: 337: 81: unexpected operator	07:58
haydar_	anyone knows	07:58
haydar_	what that mean	07:58
haydar_	s	07:58
Chousuke	do you have a space after the [ ?	07:59
haydar_	i just pasted it out of terminal	07:59
haydar_	like that	07:59
haydar_	Cedega WoW.exe	08:00
Chousuke	ah, right	08:00
Chousuke	well I don't know anything about cedega	08:00
haydar_	Well i have the same on Wine	08:00
Chousuke	I don't know much about that either.	08:00
haydar_	;) u know someone that does know :p	08:00
Lynoure	He does?	08:01
Chousuke	maybe you should ask on #wine or whatever the channel is	08:01
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Lynoure	Cedega probably has support forums of it's own	08:02
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haydar_	Well .>_<	08:02
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seamus_ie	I'm trying to use konqueror to trnfer files via ftp but when I open an ftp site (ftp:/username@ftp.site.com) it displays it as a web page. How can I change this to a file browser view?	08:03
kakarotto	espaol	08:03
kakarotto	??	08:03
kakarotto	cual es la sala en espaol	08:04
kakarotto	?	08:04
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K-Ryan	Hey everybody!	08:05
kane_	hey whats the best way to turn /home into its own partition?	08:05
kakarotto	necesito ayuda con el mp3	08:05
kakarotto	y los videos	08:05
haydar_	How, can i test if i got the newest ATi driver avi	08:05
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haydar_	Maybe its the driver	08:05
K-Ryan	!es \| kakarotto	08:05
ubotu	kakarotto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	08:06
K-Ryan	haydar_ Ati driver avi?	08:06
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hendaus	can anyone help me please	08:06
haydar_	How do you mean.	08:06
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K-Ryan	What do you mean by the "avi" at the end?	08:07
haydar_	availible	08:07
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haydar_	or something :p	08:07
K-Ryan	Oh, alright	08:07
K-Ryan	Thought you were talking about .avi, a confused person	08:07
haydar_	Is there a way to check it . :p	08:07
haydar_	haha ;)	08:07
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K-Ryan	I haven't used Ati in a while, but you don't use the official drivers right?	08:08
K-Ryan	Ah hold on, I might as well look something up before I ramble	08:08
K-Ryan	!ati	08:08
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:08
haydar_	display: :0.0 screen: 0	08:08
haydar_	OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.	08:08
haydar_	OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600	08:08
haydar_	OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)	08:08
haydar_	Current version	08:08
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haydar_	fglrxinfo	08:08
luca	hi	08:09
luca	does someone here use bibus?	08:09
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K-Ryan	haydar_: The first step is to enter the following line in your terminal.	08:10
K-Ryan	sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager	08:10
haydar_	Okay its installing	08:11
K-Ryan	That should take a little while so let me know when that finishes.	08:11
haydar_	Atm, i have D3 support	08:11
haydar_	All works	08:11
K-Ryan	Oh, right	08:11
haydar_	Only thing i wanna know if i have the newest version avaliable	08:11
haydar_	;)	08:11
K-Ryan	By the way, you're running Feisty?	08:11
haydar_	Yep	08:11
hendaus	somebody help me please!	08:11
haydar_	7.04	08:11
haydar_	Kubuntu	08:12
K-Ryan	hendadaus: What's the problem?	08:12
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K-Ryan	Well I knew it was Kubuntu =P	08:12
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K-Ryan	haydar_: This program is either going to be able to tell you or not, otherwise I'm out of ideas.	08:12
mahdi	what was the name of that kdm replacement?	08:12
K-Ryan	Sorry I'm not a linux guru, but I try ;)	08:12
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haydar_	:P	08:12
hendaus	K-Ryan: i am using kubuntu dapper, and now i have burned the fiesty on cd, what should i do?	08:12
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K-Ryan	handaus: Sorry for mispelling your name #1	08:13
K-Ryan	Damn it!	08:13
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K-Ryan	hendaus: Okay, I haven't upgraded from a CD but I know it can be done.	08:13
K-Ryan	!upgrade	08:13
ubotu	See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)	08:13
K-Ryan	I'll see if that has a walk through for it	08:14
hendaus	K-Ryan: but i have dapper not edgy	08:15
jake	guys how do i install a log in theme?	08:15
K-Ryan	It includes that as well.	08:15
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K-Ryan	jake: KDE Menu > System settings > Splash Screen	08:15
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K-Ryan	hendaus: This does not recommend skipping versions, ie. Dapper -> Feisty	08:16
K-Ryan	Unless you plan on using a fresh install.	08:16
K-Ryan	Rather than upgrading.	08:16
Greenery	i kept getting X Error BadDevice when using Konsole. Is that normal?	08:16
hendaus	K-Ryan: i am newbie on this, i download now the fiesty 7.4 and burn into a cd, so what can i do to make upgrade	08:16
K-Ryan	hendaus: What is your primary language?	08:17
jake	not the splash screen, i mean the log in screen where you promp to type your password	08:17
BluesKaj	K-Ryan, wouldn't it be safer if he moved his home file to differnt partition than root and then he could just overwrite the OS in / .. ?	08:17
K-Ryan	jake: same menu.	08:17
K-Ryan	BluesKaj: I wouldn't be able to say, I've never done it.	08:17
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hendaus	K-Ryan: espanish english	08:17
hendaus	why	08:18
K-Ryan	Have you tried !es	08:18
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K-Ryan	Oh that doesn't work, hold on	08:18
K-Ryan	!es	08:18
ubotu	Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	08:18
K-Ryan	That?	08:18
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K-Ryan	I don't know if it would be easier for you.	08:18
BluesKaj	I tried it and it was successful to some degree but I screwed up mtab so i had to reinstall clean	08:18
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K-Ryan	Well there you go =P	08:18
jake	<K-Ryan> in what area there? i couldnt see it. it looks like this area is only for splash screens	08:18
hendaus	K-Ryan: i am using kubuntu english, so i want english :)	08:19
K-Ryan	Oh wait you mean the actual box?	08:19
K-Ryan	hendaus: Alright, whichever is easier for you.	08:19
BluesKaj	hehe, well still a noob in some areas :/	08:19
K-Ryan	Me too =P	08:19
hendaus	K-Ryan: i like english	08:19
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K-Ryan	jake: you mean the actual pop up box?	08:19
jake	yes..	08:20
K-Ryan	Not sure if you can change that, if you can I don't know how.	08:20
K-Ryan	Ask around though, I'm sure someone knows.	08:20
haydar_	Guys.	08:20
haydar_	I got a mx519	08:20
haydar_	518*	08:20
haydar_	And i have readen a guide	08:20
haydar_	it tells me to edit this	08:20
haydar_	wait paste bin	08:20
jake	ive searched the forums through the net but i couldnt find the answer for kubuntu useras	08:20
hendaus	K-Ryan: i am already now	08:21
Greenery	should I worry about the X Error that keeps popping out when I use Konsole?	08:21
K-Ryan	hendaus: One second	08:21
hendaus	ok	08:21
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K-Ryan	hendaus: You are just upgrading right, not a clean install?	08:21
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haydar_	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21875/	08:22
hendaus	K-Ryan: yes	08:22
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Ayabara___	bah. tv out from a laptop was not easy (for me)	08:23
K-Ryan	Alright	08:23
haydar_	:P i dont want another xorg crash	08:23
The_Machine	I need a recommendation for a video card to be used on a system that is running Kubuntu Feisty.. (I have a budget of about $100). Should I go ATI or nvidia? Anyone have a suggestion?	08:23
K-Ryan	Can anyone help haydar_ with a version upgrade from CD?	08:23
haydar_	not me :p	08:23
K-Ryan	The_Machine: Nvidia, definitely.	08:23
hendaus	K-Ryan: first i install kubuntu dapper and now i got fiesty and burn it on cd, so what can i do booting from cd or click at start.exe from cd	08:23
K-Ryan	hendaus: If you reinstall from the CD without making any changes to your current version it will just overwrite everything, not what you want.	08:24
K-Ryan	Like a fresh install.	08:24
privet	the "global keyboard shortcuts": in which file is this stored?	08:24
hendaus	K-Ryan: ok so tell me what can i do?	08:25
The_Machine	ri thought so K-Ryan.. just making sure. So, nvidia anything?	08:25
K-Ryan	hendaus: I'm not really that sure, I'm looking through the help though.	08:25
K-Ryan	The_Machine: That part I'm not sure about, I myself have a GeForce 6600 and it works seemlessly.	08:25
K-Ryan	I'm not sure what the going price is on it.	08:26
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hendaus	K-Ryan: ok	08:26
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The_Machine	hmm	08:27
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K-Ryan	hendaus: Sorry I'm not really sure and I wouldn't want to guide you through something I'm not familiar with.	08:27
K-Ryan	Keep asking around though, I'm sure someone can help you.	08:28
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lupul	need some help pls. how can i reset the audio driver back to generic?	08:28
hendaus	K-Ryan: ok thanx, i think you are kubuntu helper :)	08:28
chris_scummette	!adept-fix	08:28
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:28
K-Ryan	hendaus: I try ;)	08:28
chris_scummette	!adeptdix	08:28
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptdix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:28
chris_scummette	!adpt-fix	08:28
K-Ryan	!aptfix	08:28
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about adpt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:28
ubotu	If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	08:28
K-Ryan	;)	08:29
chris_scummette	:D	08:29
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BluesKaj	hendaus, the advice i have seen given here is; upgrade to edgy first and then to feisty ..,jumping directly from dapper to feisty is risky	08:29
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BluesKaj	!adeptfix	08:30
ubotu	If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	08:30
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hendaus	BluesKaj: someone tell me about to burn fiesty into a cd and then install it	08:30
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BluesKaj	hendaus, that's only if you don't need to save your files	08:32
hendaus	BluesKaj: i dont have anything on my kubutu dapper, coz i made format yesterday	08:32
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chris_scummette	how do i have the right to write in the usr/ directory?	08:33
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BluesKaj	you formatted the dapper partition ?	08:33
chris_scummette	check permissions	08:33
chris_scummette	what does that mean	08:33
hendaus	BluesKaj: i was using before windows, and yesterday i make format and install kubuntu dapper from a cd	08:34
BluesKaj	chris_scummette, kdesu kate /usr...............	08:34
BluesKaj	in the run command	08:35
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chris_scummette	doesnt work	08:35
BluesKaj	hendaus, then just install feisty over dapper	08:35
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BluesKaj	chris_scummette, kdesu kate /usr/filename	08:36
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BluesKaj	what's the name of the file chris_scummette ?	08:36
raylu	chris_scummette, what do you want to do with the file?	08:37
chris_scummette	i want to copy the file to usr/share/amsn/skins	08:44
chris_scummette	this is a zip file	08:44
hendaus	BluesKaj: from boot cd, or manually from the cd click at start.exe?	08:44
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chris_scummette	its on my desktop	08:44
raylu	!cp	08:44
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:44
raylu	chris_scummette, use sudo cp file.zip sur/share/amsn/skins	08:44
BluesKaj	hendaus, boot	08:44
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raylu	BluesKaj, don't you need to upgrade dapper -> edgy first?	08:45
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hendaus	BluesKaj: is necessary to replace dapper to fiesty from sources.list?	08:45
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BluesKaj	raylu, he has no personal files , he just installed dapper yesterday and wants to upgrade to feisty	08:45
HaSH	hmm anyone know of a good utility to stream music to a shoutcast server?	08:45
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raylu	oh	08:45
BluesKaj	gstream	08:45
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HaSH	hmm gstreamer will broadcast to a shoutcast server?	08:45
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DaSkreech	!icecast	08:45
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:45
BluesKaj	hendaus, the sources list will be autmatically updated when you install feisty , then when it's installed you can edit the sources list by removing the # from the deb repositories	08:45
DaSkreech	!info icecast	08:45
ubotu	Package icecast does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	08:45
DaSkreech	Liar	08:45
HaSH	ok ok...i have a shoutcast server. im looking for a linux client to broadcast music on here to the shoutcast server...icecast is a server right?	08:45
haydar_	Guys	08:45
haydar_	i made a copy of my xorg.conf	08:45
haydar_	with	08:45
haydar_	sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak	08:45
mzanfardino	Ace2016: thank you for the link. LiquidWeather with SuperKaramba is pretty slick. I'd love it if it would automatically cycle through several selected cities, but other than that is does what I need...	08:45
haydar_	if it crashes	08:45
haydar_	how do i restore it	08:45
haydar_	so it uses the backup	08:45
hendaus	BluesKaj: ok after done fiesty i told, i forgot to tell u if i boot from cd u have to make foramt or not?	08:45
raylu	HaSH, http://www.shoutcast.com/download/broadcast.phtml	08:45
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bsundsrud	haydar_: just sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf	08:45
raylu	haydar_, sudo mv xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf	08:45
raylu	oh, i suppose cp is better	08:45
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HaSH	raylu, ...yea i was hoping for a gui.... i have way to much music / way to little time to make a list of each song i want to play.	08:45
raylu	HaSH, oh :(	08:45
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HaSH	yea...ive tried many things so far.	08:45
HaSH	maby wine with winamp?	08:45
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hendaus	ok brb...,!	08:45
raylu	that's what i was thinking...	08:45
compilerwriter	hadar_ just rename the .bak to .conf	08:45
david__	XMMS is a clone of winamp for linux	08:45
raylu	or perhaps you could use a different server setup (as in not shoutcast)	08:45
HaSH	i tried wine with sam..but it didnt work	08:45
HaSH	david__, i know	08:45
BluesKaj	no hendaus when you run feisty you will have a desktop with an install option on it , then when you follow the instructions just let the installer do the automatic partitioning for you .	08:45
HaSH	raylu, ...not my desission..	08:45
david__	oh ok, I butted in halfway through a conversation	08:45
chris_scummette	i cant unzip it in the destination file	08:45
chris_scummette	:(	08:45
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chris_scummette	dpkg?	08:46
raylu	HaSH, there's really no need for the dj to be on linux	08:46
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D_Ed	How do I set up GPG keys in Kmail?	08:46
HaSH	um.	08:46
bsundsrud	haydar_: if that complains, do sudo cp -f sourcefile destinationfile, which will force the copy	08:46
HaSH	yea there is	08:46
hendaus	ok	08:46
HaSH	i use linux and not windows.	08:46
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HaSH	there for i should be able to use shoutcast.	08:46
bsundsrud	haydar_: where sourcefile and destination file are the xorg.conf's	08:46
haydar_	etc/X11	08:46
haydar_	i suppose	08:46
raylu	what I meant was that having the server on linux is good	08:46
bsundsrud	yeah	08:46
bsundsrud	unless you cd /etc/X11	08:47
raylu	having the dj on linux is unnecessary. but i know what you mean	08:47
haydar_	i'm trying to make my mouse working	08:47
alexicon	where can i add an /etc/init.d/ script for start up?	08:47
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HaSH	raylu, ...eh i totaly feel dif.....i dont think thats right at all	08:47
haydar_	but i'm afraid to fuck this up	08:47
bsundsrud	haydar_: what kind of mouse?	08:47
haydar_	Mx518	08:47
haydar_	because a while ago i tried	08:47
raylu	alexicon, in.../etc/init.d...	08:47
bsundsrud	extra buttons, or what doesnt work?	08:47
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haydar_	Mouse4 and mouse5	08:47
alexicon	raylu: if i want the script there to start on boot	08:47
haydar_	the extra buttons	08:47
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haydar_	mouse4 works as mouse2	08:48
haydar_	mouse5 works as mouse3	08:48
haydar_	thats not right	08:48
alexicon	mrrr yeah haydar_ i have an mx1000 and the side buttons used to work, they havent since breezy for me tho	08:48
raylu	alexicon, did you chmod +x?	08:48
bsundsrud	alexicon: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/script /etc/rc5.d/51script	08:48
alexicon	cheers bsundsrud	08:48
bsundsrud	alexicon: alos	08:48
bsundsrud	alexicon: er also	08:48
compilerwriter	haydar_ One should work with ones Xorg config files the same as one works out ones salvation. With fear and trembling. So you should just be careful like you are and work slowly and methodically. Your idea of backing up along the way is good practise. You can do it my friend.	08:48
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(bsundsrud/#kubuntu) alexicon: you chmod +x it?		08:50
(bsundsrud/#kubuntu) the file, not the link		08:50
(haydar_/#kubuntu) i got a tut		08:50
(bsundsrud/#kubuntu) ok		08:50
(haydar_/#kubuntu) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Activate_side-mouse-buttons_in_FireFox		08:50
(bsundsrud/#kubuntu) then just take backups and you'll do fine		08:50
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(alexicon/#kubuntu) yeah they all work and have the right mods		08:50
(haydar_/#kubuntu) But its for firefox		08:51
(bsundsrud/#kubuntu) good good		08:51
(alexicon/#kubuntu) just needed to add it to the boot up		08:51
(haydar_/#kubuntu) i need it for games tbh		08:51
(haydar_/#kubuntu) :P		08:51
(bsundsrud/#kubuntu) haha		08:51
(haydar_/#kubuntu) Dunno if this is going to make it work		08:51
(haydar_/#kubuntu) in games		08:51
(haydar_/#kubuntu) :'[ what a hell of a job this rofl :D		08:51
bsundsrud	hah	08:51
bsundsrud	im used to editing xorg.confs now, i can whip one up from scratch. Dual monitors in ubuntu is something they should really work on	08:52
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alexicon	make sure you keep copies of all your config files once you get it working haydar ;)	08:52
haydar_	ok	08:52
bsundsrud	Fedora and SuSE handle them fine, but i have to craft my own xorg for (k)ubuntu	08:52
haydar_	i pray for me	08:52
haydar_	i'm restarting X	08:52
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haydar_	I think it worked :D	08:53
haydar_	i restarted X	08:53
haydar_	ctrl+alt+del	08:53
haydar_	and it went fine	08:53
haydar_	xD	08:53
bsundsrud	ctrl alt backspace?	08:53
haydar_	yes	08:53
haydar_	:p	08:53
bsundsrud	ok	08:53
bsundsrud	well if you still have a mouse, thats a good sign. how bout scrolling?	08:54
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haydar_	works fine	08:54
haydar_	XD	08:54
bsundsrud	good deal	08:54
haydar_	Its easy	08:55
haydar_	tbh	08:55
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haydar_	But yea the fear :p	08:55
haydar_	of booting into textmode	08:55
haydar_	:DD:D	08:55
raylu	oh no. a console. it's terrible.	08:55
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bsundsrud	haha	08:55
haydar_	its black mesa :(	08:55
bsundsrud	i love the console	08:56
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bsundsrud	the power...	08:56
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haydar_	yea 2 powerful imo	08:56
haydar_	:-D	08:56
bsundsrud	with great power comes great responsibility	08:56
bsundsrud	haha	08:56
haydar_	haha:p	08:56
haydar_	i'm using kubuntu for 3 days now	08:56
haydar_	:P i just had enough of winXP	08:57
haydar_	C:/Format	08:57
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linenoise	with great power also comes hot women	08:57
raylu	tried vista yet?	08:57
haydar_	Yep	08:57
haydar_	780 MB RAM	08:57
raylu	linenoise, i couldn't find any hot girls in su :(	08:57
linenoise	just sitting?	08:57
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linenoise	780MB?	08:57
raylu	that's because of superfetch	08:57
haydar_	yep	08:57
haydar_	but games where like	08:57
haydar_	1/2 FPS	08:57
haydar_	all	08:57
bsundsrud	linenoise: theres a definite lack of hot women in linux, unfortunately :)	08:57
raylu	the ram usage _seems_ high, that's all.	08:57
raylu	oh yeah. it's also bad for gaming	08:57
bsundsrud	not to disparage any ladies here	08:57
pulaski	hello	08:57
haydar_	and i game alot :P	08:58
haydar_	Q3 Engine	08:58
haydar_	and WoW	08:58
chris_scummette	how do i extract a zip file into another file?	08:58
chris_scummette	dpkg?	08:58
haydar_	but WoW i just cant get it working good	08:58
pulaski	I'm running ubuntu server 7.04 w/ LAMP	08:58
raylu	http://www.patrick.fremont.ca.us/media/linux/ (NSFW, I think)	08:58
haydar_	its a common issue atm	08:58
bsundsrud	what kind of zip chris_scummette?	08:58
linenoise	yeah.... the less women look like RMS the better... no offense RMS if you're lurking... I'm just sayin.... That's a wizard of a beard	08:58
chris_scummette	a zipped file	08:58
bsundsrud	chris_scummette: a .zip or a .gz or .bz2?	08:58
raylu	chris_scummette, you could always double-click on it	08:58
bsundsrud	chris_scummette: which are all 'zipped'	08:58
pulaski	I've made ~/public_html the dir from wich pages are served	08:59
bsundsrud	yeah double clicking will open ark, most likely	08:59
chris_scummette	nope i need the console command cause i cant access the destination folder without bieing su	08:59
chris_scummette	a zip, of course;)	08:59
raylu	pulaski, depending on your server, I don't think ~ is valid	08:59
raylu	chris_scummette, kdesu konqueror	08:59
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raylu	chris_scummette, and as long as you're unzipping to somewhere where you have write access, you don't even need to be root	09:00
bsundsrud	chris_scummette: or if you really wanna do the console, sudo unzip file.zip -d /path/you/want/it/in	09:00
chris_scummette	no protocol specified :(	09:00
haydar_	What mediaplayer	09:00
pulaski	can someone show me a doc that will show how to configure apache2 so it will execute cgi scripts from ~/public_html/cgi-bin?	09:00
haydar_	do you guys use	09:00
raylu	huh?	09:00
chris_scummette	ok!	09:00
haydar_	kaffeine?	09:00
haydar_	vlc?	09:00
haydar_	T_T	09:00
raylu	kaffeine, vlc, winamp and, occasionally, wmp	09:01
bsundsrud	haydar_: kaffeine is pretty good usually, i use VLC in windows	09:01
haydar_	VLC in windows is much better	09:01
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haydar_	then the Nix version	09:01
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haydar_	in nix it feels " cheap "	09:01
haydar_	:P	09:01
chris_scummette	Nice raylu	09:01
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chris_scummette	thanks	09:01
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bsundsrud	haydar_: or, mplayer with kplayer frontend	09:02
raylu	chris_scummette, np	09:03
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haydar_	Good news	09:03
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haydar_	W:ET	09:03
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haydar_	works like a charm	09:04
haydar_	mouse4	09:04
haydar_	and mouse5	09:04
haydar_	all :D	09:04
haydar_	i can finally /kill ingame keke :P	09:04
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tee-zett	hi, i have some difficulties with my wlan - it always forgets the WEP key	09:04
chris_scummette	wahts does -d stand for ?	09:04
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tee-zett	in which config file should be stored best?	09:05
raylu	tee-zett, are you using knetworkmanager?	09:05
haydar_	my wishlist atm : patch q3 engine with alsa	09:05
raylu	chris_scummette, in what? unzip?	09:05
tee-zett	not yet, raylu	09:05
chris_scummette	yes	09:05
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raylu	tee-zett, then what is asking for your wep key?	09:05
raylu	chris_scummette, unzip --help	09:05
raylu	--help works on almost everything	09:05
chris_scummette	i just want to understand what commands i type	09:05
chris_scummette	ok	09:06
tee-zett	i set the key with iwconfig	09:06
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raylu	chris_scummette, if that doesn't work, man unzip	09:06
tee-zett	cause knetworkmanager did not work	09:06
chris_scummette	it worked	09:06
chris_scummette	i just wanted to understand how this works	09:06
raylu	tee-zett, kmenu>system settings>network settings>select network properties>specify wep key	09:06
chris_scummette	typing back stupidly is dumb i think	09:07
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chris_scummette	i try to understand the way it goes	09:07
raylu	chris_scummette, did you read "man unzip"?	09:07
chris_scummette	nope	09:08
raylu	pgdown, pgup, and q	09:08
raylu	use those to navigate manpages	09:08
raylu	or up and down, i suppose	09:08
tee-zett	raylu: this is the same dialog like in knetworkmanager	09:08
raylu	tee-zett, it is :P	09:08
chris_scummette	ok!	09:08
raylu	tee-zett, after specifying your key, save it and let it save the network settings. it hasn't asked me for my wep key since	09:08
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tee-zett	raylu, there the key was stored, but it always forgets the gateway adress	09:09
raylu	tee-zett, oh...have you specified that?	09:09
tee-zett	yes, what else?	09:10
tee-zett	dhcp did not work	09:10
raylu	o.0 :(	09:11
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tee-zett	i found that settings are stored in /etc/network/interfaces	09:12
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tee-zett	but i could not find where the key is set there	09:12
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raylu	you may want to try looking for the ascii/hex version (whichever you're not searching for)	09:13
tee-zett	that's not really different - but i need the general setting	09:14
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raylu	oh...heh, perhaps i should take a look	09:16
raylu	wireless-essid 2WIRE668	09:16
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raylu	wireless-key 1234567890	09:16
raylu	that's what i have	09:16
tee-zett	where is this? in /etc/network/interfaces?	09:16
raylu	yes	09:17
raylu	perhaps you could just stick it in there	09:17
tee-zett	thanks, i will try - this is also WEP?	09:17
raylu	yes	09:17
raylu	!kwifimanager	09:17
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kwifimanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:17
raylu	\=	09:17
raylu	you could also try that, though	09:17
raylu	!info kwifimanager	09:17
ubotu	kwifimanager: wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 234 kB, installed size 800 kB	09:17
tee-zett	then this should work - i just found the settings for wpa	09:18
raylu	o.0	09:18
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Ayabara____	anyone know how I can revert/reconfigure my xorg.conf automatically?	09:18
LjL	!xconfig > Ayabara____ (Ayabara____, see the private message from Ubotu)	09:19
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raylu	LjL, who maintains the bot?	09:19
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Ayabara____	LjL: thanks in this channel too :-)	09:20
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LjL	raylu: Dennis Kaarsemaker	09:20
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raylu	!chmod	09:21
ubotu	The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux	09:21
raylu	o.0	09:21
raylu	it's been fixed	09:21
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LjL	what's been fixed?	09:22
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K-Ryan	I'm back	09:23
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raylu	the chmod command	09:24
raylu	it used to talk about su	09:24
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michael__	okay something is way messsed up	09:25
michael__	i just restarted and thins are taking like 3min to load a webpage	09:25
michael__	and konqueror says its running at 2.6kb/s	09:25
michael__	any ideas ?	09:25
K-Ryan	What did you do before you restarted?	09:25
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K-Ryan	Is it all internet requiring applications?	09:26
michael__	re installed wine i believe	09:26
michael__	yeh konqueror/firefox	09:26
K-Ryan	Bad internet?	09:26
michael__	real slow	09:26
chris_scummette	!mp3	09:26
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	09:26
michael__	actually nevermind, its randomly working again	09:26
raylu	chris_scummette, trying to play an mp3?	09:26
chris_scummette	where can i fond the codecs for amarok	09:26
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chris_scummette	lol yep	09:26
K-Ryan	Strange, somebody probably hit a pole or something michael__ =P	09:26
raylu	when you play an mp3, doesn't it ask you to install it?	09:26
K-Ryan	No raylu	09:26
chris_scummette	yes but it crashes	09:27
K-Ryan	It just doesn't	09:27
K-Ryan	Well it didn't for me at least..	09:27
raylu	oh...	09:27
chris_scummette	adept has it i think	09:27
michael__	lol	09:27
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raylu	sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs	09:27
michael__	ive installed like every codec possible	09:27
michael__	:P	09:27
raylu	(i think)	09:27
chris_scummette	:D	09:27
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michael__	i installed all the ubuntu-studio things and thennn all the codecs	09:28
K-Ryan	just go for libxine-extracodecs	09:28
K-Ryan	raylu what's aptitude for?	09:28
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raylu	!aptitude	09:29
ubotu	aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide	09:29
K-Ryan	Oh, that's neat	09:29
raylu	i don't know why people prefer apt-get	09:29
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raylu	!gogo	09:30
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ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gogo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:30
raylu	!info gogo	09:30
ubotu	gogo: mp3 encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.39b-7 (feisty), package size 280 kB, installed size 736 kB (Only available for i386)	09:30
raylu	lol............	09:30
K-Ryan	I don't think people know about aptitude	09:30
raylu	what would you do if your mp3 was tagged "encoded with gogo"	09:30
peyote	Is it possible to use synaptic with aptitude as a backend?	09:30
raylu	the veterans in here and on websites often show commands with apt-get	09:30
raylu	peyote, that makes no sense. both of them are just apt backends	09:31
raylu	aptitude is a frontend	09:31
raylu	*are just using apt as backends	09:31
peyote	i mean to get the dependencies manged by aptitude... so unneeded packages are removed if main packet is deleted	09:31
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raylu	i think synaptic might do that by itself...though i never really used it unless i had to	09:32
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peyote	ok, will have a look thanks..	09:32
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Ayabara____	when I choose monitor #2 in my "Monitor & Display" setup, is that the settings for my vga output?	09:38
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Ayabara____	after I configure that one I get a Section "Monitor" and a Section "Screen" in my xorg.conf	09:40
raylu	it depends on where you specify the identifier	09:40
cox377_	can someone look @ this pastebin and see what i'm doing wrong with my java?	09:40
cox377_	http://pastebin.ca/500868	09:40
raylu	cox377_, install one of those...	09:41
BlackBsd	does the kubuntu knetwork manager use wpa supplicant?	09:41
cox377_	raylu: but i've got JRE6 installed	09:41
BlackBsd	if so where does it store its configuration, so i can ripp off the settings	09:41
raylu	cox377_, do you know where?	09:41
cox377_	raylu: i installed it via apt-get	09:42
raylu	cox377_, i'm sure there's a better way, but you could go into adept, click the package you installed, show details, and look at installed files	09:42
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cox377_	raylu: once i've done that what do i do?	09:43
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cox377_	raylu: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts	09:43
cox377_	thats the command i used	09:43
raylu	go into adept, click the package you installed, show details, and look at installed files	09:43
raylu	(in this case, sun-java6-jre)	09:44
hendaus	BluesKaj: ok i insert the cd fiesty and then i click install and after minutes it appears a new desktop, then my connection cannot work , i dont know hwy	09:44
blekos_	hi, i've run this blekos@blekos-laptop:/media/My Book/Backup$ sudo rsync -arvu /home /etc /opt	09:44
blekos_	but i just see my / to be 1 gb less	09:44
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Ace2016	cox377_: did you run this after you installed it? sudo update-alternatives --config java	09:45
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raylu	blekos_, rsync sends files...so, I don't understand the question	09:46
ubuntu	Need help. Is there any why to open a harddrive in linux that are used to Windows?	09:46
blekos_	well, i thought i asked it to send file to my usb hd but i cant see them	09:46
Ace2016	ubuntu: mount it	09:47
raylu	ubuntu, yes, linux can read ntfs	09:47
Ace2016	ubuntu: you can read and write to fat32, only read on ntfs	09:47
cox377_	raylu: http://pastebin.ca/500880	09:47
SlimeyPete	Ace2016: you can read on ntfs too.	09:47
SlimeyPete	*write	09:47
BluesKaj	hendaus, perhaps Ace2016 can help with eth0 , I'm not very good at network stuff	09:47
ubuntu	Only getting an error message...	09:47
raylu	but it's buggy/unstable	09:47
cox377_	raylu: i've copied it down from "installed files"	09:47
SlimeyPete	!ntfs-3g	09:47
ubotu	ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions	09:47
Ace2016	SlimeyPete: my guess is ubuntu is using the live cd	09:47
blekos_	if lets say, i had made a mistkake and asked rsync to send files to the same directory from which, it gets its date	09:47
blekos_	what would happen?	09:48
SlimeyPete	raylu: not really. It's fine fo esktop use. Wouldn't want to use it on a workstation yet, though.	09:48
SlimeyPete	Ace2016: ah right. Good point.	09:48
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raylu	[14:45:20] <Ace2016> cox377_: did you run this after you installed it? sudo update-alternatives --config java	09:48
ubuntu	Mount. Cant find \dev\hdal in \etc\fstab or \etc\mtab... What is wrong_	09:49
raylu	SlimeyPete, the point is, you risk data loss	09:49
cox377_	raylu: when i run that command the different java's arn't listed	09:49
raylu	ubuntu, what command did you run?	09:49
Danker	Hi	09:49
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cox377_	raylu: my lie	09:49
raylu	cox377_, huh?	09:49
ubuntu	command_	09:49
ubuntu	??	09:49
cox377_	raylu:	09:49
cox377_	There is only 1 program which provides java	09:49
cox377_	(/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.	09:49
raylu	ubuntu, what did you type in to mount	09:50
ubuntu	just did right click on the hard drive and pressed mount...	09:50
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raylu	ubuntu, where did you right-click it from?	09:50
ubuntu	system menu	09:50
raylu	cox377_, for me, java is installed in /usr/bin/java	09:51
cox377_	: (	09:51
raylu	ubuntu, you mean /media?	09:51
raylu	*storage media?	09:51
raylu	cox377_, as in the executable is there. i assume it's a link to something else	09:51
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ubuntu	yes	09:51
raylu	ubuntu, do you know the name of the device that you want to mount? like sda1?	09:52
Ace2016	ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java /usr/bin/java should do it	09:52
ubuntu	You mean what it's name on windows_	09:52
ubuntu	?	09:52
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ayreon81forgot	hello doods! :)	09:52
raylu	ubuntu, er...ok, do this: ls /dev \| grep sda	09:53
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raylu	[14:52:16] <Ace2016> ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java /usr/bin/java should do it	09:53
hendaus	Ace2016: i have kubuntu dapper installed, and now i have burn the fiesty on a cd, i boot the fiesty from cd and hit install,after 10 minutes it appears the desktop and connection failed :(, the i make restart and it shows on the black screen umount is busy and cannot find	09:53
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cox377_	raylu: for me?	09:54
ubuntu	raylu, where to pu that command?? :S	09:54
raylu	cox377_, yes.	09:55
raylu	ubuntu, are you in kubuntu or ubuntu? are you on a livecd?	09:55
cox377_	raylu: ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/java' to `/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java': File exists	09:55
ubuntu	livecd kubuntu	09:55
raylu	cox377_, try "which java"	09:55
raylu	ubuntu, alt+f2, konsole	09:55
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ubuntu	ok, when I insert the command there I only get a black screen window...	09:56
raylu	cox377_, actually, that command is backwards	09:56
cox377_	raylu: literally "which java" in the command?	09:56
raylu	cox377_, reverse the two. and yes, literally	09:56
raylu	ubuntu, are you sure? what happens when you type: ls /dev	09:57
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cox377_	raylu: lol sorry man, java which?	09:57
ubuntu	yellow text appear XD	09:57
hendaus	brb ....	09:57
raylu	cox377_, if "which java" returns nothing, do the ln command but reverse the two arguments	09:57
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raylu	cox377_, the ln commmand was the one that was backwards, sorry	09:57
cox377_	so "java which"	09:57
ubuntu	raylu, a lot of text appear.	09:57
Ace2016	raylu and cox377, run file /usr/bin/java && file /etc/alternatives/java this will show you whats going on	09:57
raylu	cox377_, no, "which java"	09:57
Ace2016	i'm guessing cox377 has a borken symlink there	09:58
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raylu	o.0, why does mine point to /etc/alternatives/java?	09:58
cox377_	raybash: which java: command not found	09:58
raylu	ubuntu, ok, now run the command: ls /dev \| grep -i da	09:58
cox377_	raylu: ***	09:59
Ace2016	raylu and cox377, run file /usr/bin/java && file /etc/alternatives/java && file /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun this will clear it up,	09:59
ubuntu	ok, and then__	09:59
ubuntu	??	09:59
Ace2016	its just a mess of symlinks, if one is broken it won't work	09:59
raylu	ubuntu, what does it say?	09:59
raylu	that's like...a quadruple symlink...	10:00
ubuntu	hda, hda1, hda2, hda5, ptyda, ttyda	10:00
cox377_	Ace2016: umm you want me to pastebin the results?	10:00
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raylu	ubuntu, ok, do you know which is your windows partition?	10:00
raylu	cox377_, i think you can just paste them here	10:00
ubuntu	hda5	10:00
cox377_	cox377@cox377-desktop:~$ file /usr/bin/java && file /etc/alternatives/java && file /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun	10:00
cox377_	/usr/bin/java: broken symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/java'	10:00
cox377_	/etc/alternatives/java: broken symbolic link to `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java'	10:00
cox377_	/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun: symbolic link to `java-6-sun-1.6.0.00'	10:00
raylu	ubuntu, cd /media	10:00
raylu	ubuntu, sudo mkdir hda5	10:01
raylu	ubuntu, sudo mount /dev/hda5 hda5	10:01
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dwidmann	/etc/alternatives/java is a symlink to your default jvm, set by the update-alternatives command	10:01
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dwidmann	IIRC	10:01
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cox377_	dwidmann: as in "sudo update-alternatives --config java"	10:02
raylu	he could just manually symlink /etc/alternatives/java to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun	10:02
ubuntu	Error : Could not enter folder /media/hda5	10:03
raylu	ubuntu, on which command?	10:03
cox377_	lol think i've bust it	10:03
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ubuntu	after the mount command	10:03
Ace2016	raylu: maybe the best thing would be is to install anotehr java package, then alternatives realises it needs the symlink and fixes itself, and then he could run sudo update-alternatives --config java to pick java 6 again	10:03
dwidmann	cox, you'd need the full path to the binary probably, so tack /bin/java onto the end of that path and you should have it	10:03
Ace2016	another*	10:04
raylu	ubuntu, what does ls show?	10:04
ubuntu	When I try to acces the folder or?	10:04
raylu	Ace2016, but we know which symlink is broken and it's a 1-line fix	10:04
raylu	ubuntu, ...when you type "ls"	10:04
cox377_	Ace2016: i installed 1.4, when running the alternative command it allowe me to select 6 again	10:05
ubuntu	hda1 hda2 hda5	10:05
Ace2016	raylu: but if he ever updates java its going to mess it up again	10:05
raylu	ubuntu, and you couldn't mount it with "sudo mount /dev/hda5 hda5"	10:05
raylu	?	10:05
ubuntu	no.	10:05
raylu	Ace2016, if he updates java, won't it update the symlink from alternatives?	10:05
raylu	ubuntu, are you sure the error you showed me wasn't from cd hda5?	10:06
ubuntu	when I try cd /media/hda5, I get message : Permission denied	10:06
raylu	oh...lol, that's what i thought :P	10:06
raylu	you said that was the error you got from using mount	10:06
ubuntu	ops XD	10:06
raylu	you can either browse it as root or	10:06
ubuntu	how to do that_	10:06
ubuntu	?	10:06
raylu	sudo chown ubuntu hda5	10:07
raylu	using kdesu konqueror	10:07
raylu	(to browse as root)	10:07
Ace2016	raylu: doubt it since when he just installed java v6 and it didn't create the correct symlink	10:07
raylu	(sudo chown ubuntu hda5 assumes your username is ubuntu)	10:07
raylu	Ace2016, i guess.	10:07
dogatemycomputer	raylu: this conversation seems familliar :)	10:08
raylu	dogatemycomputer, i remember you from yesterday, though i can't remember having a conversation likes this	10:08
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ubuntu	do not work when using konqueror...	10:09
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Ace2016	sudo fdisk -l, find the fat32 or ntfs partition in the middle of that and remember what its /dev/* was, then do cd /media, sudo mkdir win, then sudo mount /dev/whatever win, then go into win and play about,	10:09
raylu	ubuntu, you must use kdesu konqueror (alt+f2)	10:09
raylu	Ace2016, he has it mounted, but its owned by root	10:09
ubuntu	nothing...	10:10
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dwidmann	raylu: always bugs me that everyone does everything the hard way .... just say $USER instead of replace this with that or assuming such and such ... saves so much time ;)	10:10
raylu	ubuntu, i think you should use "sudo chown ubuntu hda5" after cd /media (assuming you're username is ubuntu)	10:10
dogatemycomputer	raylu: I was referring to the guy who was trying to access a fat32 partition.. and he kept getting "access denied" errors even after changing changing ownership..	10:10
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raylu	oh. i forgot about $USER	10:11
raylu	dogatemycomputer, i might have been idle for that	10:11
dogatemycomputer	raylu: i was online last week though.. so its been a while and i'm sure you've helped dozens since..	10:11
raylu	are you sure you weren't online yester?	10:11
dogatemycomputer	raylu: you were helping the guy although I can't remember his name.	10:11
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dogatemycomputer	raylu: nope.. i only connect from the office.. and I had friends from out of town. I haven't been here for like 4 days.	10:12
raylu	hm...	10:12
dogatemycomputer	raylu: just seems to be a common problem with linux. the whole mounting process should be easier.	10:12
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raylu	the again, in windows, it mounts it for you...you just don't really get to specify the mount point if it screws up	10:13
raylu	or any mount options...	10:13
raylu	or get any debug info on what happened...	10:13
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dogatemycomputer	raylu: lol.. you are absolutely right..	10:14
raylu	what we need is a mount gui...	10:15
dogatemycomputer	raylu: not bashing linux.. just think its something we could do better for the average.. ummm.. user.	10:15
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dogatemycomputer	raylu: exactly.	10:15
dogatemycomputer	raylu: something stupid-proof..	10:15
ubuntu	raylu, how the check username on the livecd?? XD	10:15
raylu	ubuntu, use $USER	10:15
raylu	you can also get your username in the konsole:	10:16
raylu	raylu@foor:~$	10:16
raylu	raylu is my username, foor is my computer name	10:16
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dragan	anyone played with mirrors and repos?	10:19
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raylu	dragan, sort of...why?	10:20
dragan	I have downloaded whole feisty repo by apt-mirror	10:20
raylu	o.0...you asked this not too long ago, didn't you?	10:21
dragan	now I want to use it as file repo.. not web/local repo	10:21
dragan	yes :-)	10:21
dragan	still no answer ...	10:21
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raylu	have you tried pasting it to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?	10:21
dragan	hmmmm what will that do?	10:22
raylu	if it comes down to it, you could always install them manually with dpkg	10:22
raylu	dragan, i _think_ that's where apt downloads packages to before installing them	10:22
dragan	yes.. but since I wish to share that with other people...	10:22
raylu	share them..how?	10:22
raylu	on a LAN?	10:22
dragan	as repo... via usb rack	10:23
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dragan	with people with no net.	10:23
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dragan	would symlink do? that with /sources.list.d ?	10:23
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raylu	dragan, no, that'd only be for yourself	10:23
raylu	a repos is out of the option if they have no net, i think	10:24
dragan	ln -s /media/usb/repostuff /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?	10:24
dragan	or it is other way around :-)	10:24
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dragan	I use mc for that :-)	10:25
raylu	the usb rack connects one usb hd with multiple computers?	10:25
Daisuke-Ido	raylu: no it isn't, check out aptoncd	10:25
drkns	hello	10:25
jrick	I have a problem with kalzium. Whenever I try to export a spectrum for an element as an image, kalzium crashes. I think this is because a dependancy is not satisified. Can anyone help?	10:25
raylu	!aptoncd	10:25
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:25
drkns	has anyone can help me with the blackberry?	10:25
raylu	Daisuke-Ido, ?	10:25
dragan	no.. usb rack is for external drive raylu	10:25
raylu	jrick, check the suggested packages	10:25
drkns	are there any software that i can use to recharge and use blackberry	10:25
Daisuke-Ido	http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/	10:25
dragan	one sata drive of 160GB	10:25
jrick	raylu where is that?	10:25
raylu	jrick, in adept-manager, choose the kalzium package and show details	10:26
jrick	ok, let me check	10:26
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dragan	I just want to avoid having to install apache... and just link those repo files like for example DVD is added in sources.list	10:27
jrick	ok, adept isn't loading, i think i need to restart (again)	10:27
Daisuke-Ido	jrick: don't	10:27
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Daisuke-Ido	the solution in linux isn't "oh it doesn't work, time for a reboot"	10:28
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jrick	i know there's a command, but i don't know what it is	10:28
Daisuke-Ido	then ask	10:28
dragan	may billy be with you jrick ;-)	10:28
jrick	ok, what is the command?	10:28
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raylu	what happens when you load adept?	10:28
SlimeyPete	jrick: it might be worth installing synaptic. I find that it's more stable	10:29
Daisuke-Ido	try going into ksysguard	10:29
Daisuke-Ido	and see if adept is running	10:29
dragan	or type ps -aux \| grep adept	10:29
Daisuke-Ido	dragan's is quicker, i was just going the gui route.	10:29
dragan	ctrl+esc	10:29
dragan	is shortcut for ksysguard	10:30
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Daisuke-Ido	dragan: apparently not by default in feisty	10:30
Daisuke-Ido	ctrl+esc brings up the kmenu	10:30
dragan	hmmm is so... worked for me on laptop...	10:30
dragan	but I will have to check...	10:30
raylu	o.0, ctrl+esc is for windows start menu	10:30
raylu	i don't remember having to configure ctrl+esc either, though	10:31
Daisuke-Ido	ah, that would explain it.	10:31
Daisuke-Ido	it's a behaviour thing	10:31
raylu	oh	10:31
raylu	you set it to windows?	10:31
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ThePhantom	hi	10:32
Daisuke-Ido	i did, to make it easier for my girlfriend to use.	10:32
jrick	yeah, it's an apt-get problem. If I remember correctly, something is locked (like in use) and anything apt-get related (adept, synaptic) won't load.	10:32
Daisuke-Ido	maybe it's time to switch it back	10:32
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dragan	yes.. there can be only one apt-get process	10:33
raylu	jrick, sudo dpkg --configure -a	10:33
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dragan	no	10:33
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jrick	ah, that looks familiar.	10:33
jrick	:)	10:33
raylu	no?	10:33
dragan	just kill another adept process	10:33
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dragan	if it is active	10:33
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raylu	(don't kill adept_notifier)	10:33
dragan	;-)	10:34
raylu	actually, kill it anyway	10:34
dragan	as I said....	10:34
dragan	type ps -aux \| grep adept	10:34
jrick	hmmm, still not loading	10:34
jrick	I did that	10:34
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dragan	that will help us speed up diagnostic	10:34
dragan	and what was reply?	10:34
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ml	hi	10:35
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jrick	uh, where's the pastebin?	10:35
dragan	it should read something lik this	10:35
dragan	ps -aux \| grep adept	10:36
dragan	Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html	10:36
dragan	root 6362 32.0 4.4 80664 45808 ? Rl 22:35 0:04 adept_manager	10:36
dragan	dragan 6474 0.0 0.0 2800 756 pts/3 R+ 22:35 0:00 grep adept	10:36
jrick	ok, mine looks like this	10:36
jrick	joshua 25956 0.0 1.1 26436 12136 ? S 16:26 0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager	10:36
jrick	joshua 26071 0.0 1.1 26436 12140 ? S 16:30 0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager	10:36
jrick	joshua 26153 0.3 1.1 26432 12132 ? S 16:34 0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager	10:36
jrick	joshua 26173 0.0 0.0 2884 752 pts/1 R+ 16:34 0:00 grep adept	10:36
dragan	AHAHHAHAHAAAAAA	10:36
dragan	you have not 2 but 3 processes :-)	10:36
Daisuke-Ido	jrick: killall adept_manager	10:36
dragan	so..	10:36
dragan	with sudo first	10:36
dragan	sudo killall adept_manager	10:36
Daisuke-Ido	shouldn't even need sudo for that	10:37
dragan	has to...	10:37
Daisuke-Ido	his account launched the processes	10:37
dragan	nope	10:37
dragan	see ownership	10:37
dragan	root	10:37
Daisuke-Ido	blah	10:37
Daisuke-Ido	yeah, sudo :D	10:37
ThePhantom	Excuse me, I have a problem with my bluetooth dongle in ubuntu 7.04. When I put the dongle in usb port, I read in hall terminal a flood of this error message: hci_scodata_packet: hci0 packet unknown connection handle 92.	10:37
ThePhantom	what can I do?	10:37
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jrick	adept_manager: no process killed	10:37
dragan	buy another bt dongle :-)	10:37
ThePhantom	doch	10:37
ThePhantom	douch	10:37
ThePhantom	why?	10:38
dragan	unknown connection handle 92	10:38
ThePhantom	the dongle work!	10:38
dragan	not reckoginzed	10:38
ThePhantom	I can send and receive file	10:38
ThePhantom	!	10:38
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Daisuke-Ido	it works in ubuntu?	10:38
dragan	hmm in that case ignore error messages	10:38
ThePhantom	yes	10:38
Daisuke-Ido	so... what's the problem?	10:38
ThePhantom	in gnome it works	10:38
raylu	ThePhantom, dont run it in a terminal?	10:38
Daisuke-Ido	then if it doesn't work in kde, there's something not installed	10:39
Daisuke-Ido	search in adept for something related to bluetooth	10:39
ThePhantom	The problem is when i connect the dongle	10:39
raylu	no, the issue isn't that it doesn't work	10:39
mat1980	what about kdar? I can't find it in the repository of feisty. There is a package that provide it?	10:39
raylu	mat1980, what's kdar?	10:39
raylu	!find kdar	10:39
dragan	sudo kill -9 25956 26071 26153 jrick	10:39
ubotu	Package/file kdar does not exist in feisty	10:39
ThePhantom	in terminal i read a flood of message	10:39
raylu	ThePhantom, what happens if you close the terminal?	10:40
mat1980	kdar is a frontend for dar, a program for advanced backup	10:40
ThePhantom	when I press CTRL+ALT+F1	10:40
Daisuke-Ido	ThePhantom: if it works, ignore the messages.	10:40
dragan	ThePhantom: just ignore them.. if it works..	10:40
dragan	ehehee	10:40
ThePhantom	no, I can't use any terminal	10:40
ThePhantom	!	10:40
LjL	mat1980: kdar is not available in the repositories anymore due to being kind of unmaintained, and incompatible with the current version of dar	10:40
raylu	there is tty2...	10:40
ThePhantom	because i see this message	10:40
raylu	and 3, 4, 5, 6	10:40
Daisuke-Ido	uBUH... you could have mentioned this first	10:40
ThePhantom	yes!	10:40
mat1980	LjL: oh... ok... thanks... do you know some alternative?	10:41
jrick	dragan: ERROR: garbage process ID "jrick".	10:41
ThePhantom	tty1,2,3,4,5,6 is not accessible for this message	10:41
ThePhantom	tty1,2,3,4,5,6 is not accessible cause this message	10:41
dragan	then kill them one by one	10:41
raylu	jrick, sudo killall kdesu	10:41
Daisuke-Ido	ThePhantom: so get a new dongle	10:41
dragan	list them all first	10:41
jrick	oh, i should use jrick at the end.	10:41
dragan	and sudo kill -9 procUID	10:42
raylu	lol, Daisuke-Ido, that's not helpful	10:42
ThePhantom	mmmm	10:42
ThePhantom	I can't do anythings?	10:42
Daisuke-Ido	raylu: i'm still trying to figure out what the problem is	10:42
jrick	no, adept still doesn't work.	10:42
raylu	all his ttys are being flooded with msgs and he can't use them	10:42
LjL	mat1980: not really... but "apt-cache rdepends dar" shows a couple of (non-kde) programs	10:42
raylu	jrick, did you try my command?	10:43
ThePhantom	raylu: yes! this is the problem	10:43
Daisuke-Ido	either it works or it doesn't, and if it works, he has multiple ttys he can use, just by unplugging the usb dongle, which does not need to be plugged in all the time.	10:43
jrick	just did	10:43
raylu	ThePhantom, have you tried google?	10:43
raylu	jrick, did it kill anything? have you tried adept since then?	10:43
jrick	no, adept still stalls	10:43
ThePhantom	Yes I tried on google, onubuntu forum but, i can't find the solution	10:44
raylu	and ksysguard/ps now shows no adepts?	10:44
raylu	ThePhantom, brand of dongle?	10:44
dragan	jrick: you MUST kill them alll BEFORE starting NEW adept process	10:44
raylu	(i assume he knows that)	10:44
dragan	hmmmm	10:44
ThePhantom	ES-388	10:44
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ThePhantom	no brand...	10:45
raylu	oh. i meant model anyway :p	10:45
ThePhantom	on windows I use widcomm driver	10:45
jrick	ok, now I have this:	10:45
jrick	Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html	10:45
jrick	joshua 26420 0.1 1.1 26432 12128 ? S 16:43 0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager	10:45
jrick	joshua 26456 0.0 0.0 1676 196 pts/1 R+ 16:44 0:00 grep adept	10:45
dragan	ok... sudo kill -9 26420	10:45
raylu	and why is a grep still running?	10:45
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raylu	wait. nevermind.	10:45
dragan	it is ok	10:46
mat1980	LjL: thanks a lot! it doesn't matter if they are non-kde.	10:46
jrick	ok, only grep is running now	10:46
dragan	great	10:46
jrick	should I open adept?	10:46
ThePhantom	...	10:46
dragan	now start adept from konsole	10:46
dragan	sudo adept	10:46
michi	is this also a help channel??	10:46
raylu	um...adept_manager is gui	10:46
dragan	no official michi	10:46
raylu	and adept isn't a command :P	10:46
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Daisuke-Ido	and start gui apps with kdesu rather than sudo	10:47
dragan	yes.. I know... but sudo is shorter ;-)	10:47
raylu	Daisuke-Ido, but that won't give error output, will it?	10:47
jrick	yes. adept opens	10:47
Daisuke-Ido	raylu: it also won't bork configs in some apps	10:47
jrick	now back to my orriginal problem...	10:47
raylu	oh...so maybe he didn't know dragan :(	10:47
dragan	:-)	10:48
raylu	jrick, find the details on whatever app that was...	10:48
ThePhantom	is I try "hcidump" I read a flood of this message: SCO data: handle 92 dlen 48	10:48
jrick	um, adept won't let me make changes.	10:48
raylu	jrick, kdesu it	10:48
jrick	oh, i need to be root :)	10:48
dragan	o YEAH	10:48
dragan	:-)	10:48
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dragan	if you really want to mess up things... you have to use THE POWER ;-)	10:49
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ThePhantom	is impossible to solve my problem?	10:49
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jrick	yeah, I ran it without the sudo command.	10:49
jrick	and now it won't open...	10:49
lupul	is there anyway i can edit the right click menu in feisty?	10:50
jrick	great.	10:50
lupul	right click on the desktop	10:50
dragan	you have anotherone running.... jrick	10:50
dragan	ONLY ONE can run jrick	10:50
jrick	yeah, i know that by now.	10:50
dragan	:-)	10:50
ThePhantom	:(	10:50
Ace2016	lupul: i think that might be hard coded, but ask in #kde they should know	10:50
lupul	ok	10:50
lupul	thank	10:50
lupul	*thanks	10:50
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jrick	what do I need to kill now?	10:53
jrick	Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html	10:53
jrick	joshua 26625 0.0 1.1 26436 12132 ? S 16:50 0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager	10:53
jrick	joshua 26633 0.2 1.1 26436 12132 ? S 16:52 0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager	10:53
jrick	joshua 26641 0.0 0.0 2884 748 pts/1 R+ 16:53 0:00 grep adept	10:53
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DraxNS	first 2	10:54
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jrick	the command?	10:54
DraxNS	26625 and 26641	10:54
DraxNS	oh boy	10:54
human	Zd@r3c all	10:54
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DraxNS	sudo kill -9 procID	10:54
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ThePhantom	excuse me, I can trash my dongle?	10:55
DraxNS	:-D	10:55
ThePhantom	no solution???	10:55
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DraxNS	guess not.. as in not now	10:55
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ThePhantom	I come back to windows... douch	10:55
DraxNS	right app for right hw ;-)	10:55
ThePhantom	:)	10:56
jrick	nope, still doesn't open.	10:56
jrick	I know restarting will solve it, though.	10:56
jrick	it kills everything	10:56
DraxNS	you have messed it up good	10:56
DraxNS	:_)	10:56
jrick	restart?	10:56
DraxNS	will you teach me :_)	10:56
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DraxNS	;-_	10:57
DraxNS	oh darn keyboard	10:57
DraxNS	:-)	10:57
jrick	haha I use dvorak	10:57
DraxNS	nock yourself out... :-)	10:57
jrick	much more accurate	10:57
jrick	...then QWERTY	10:57
DraxNS	ahem.. it is easy to blame keyboard for typos ;-)	10:58
jrick	ok, restarting.	10:58
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linija2	Hi... anyone know how to change permission to "READ-ONLY FILE SYSTEM"??? thanks	11:02
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papatom	Zd@r3c all	11:02
raylu	linija2, there is a read-only mount flag	11:03
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linija2	in fstab?	11:03
raylu	for the mount command	11:03
raylu	either -r or -o ro	11:04
linija2	sorry... nooob... what does that mean?	11:04
linija2	trying to install in /var dir	11:04
linija2	says "read-only file system	11:04
raylu	you said you wanted to change the permission TO read-only	11:05
raylu	you want to make it writable?	11:05
linija2	YES :)	11:05
raylu	oh. in that case, it's probably read-only because it's ntfs	11:05
raylu	is it?	11:05
linija2	ext2	11:05
raylu	o.0....	11:05
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raylu	ok, explain what you mean: [16:04:28] <linija2> trying to install in /var dir	11:05
papatom	Nevte jak se d naisntaloval firefox ? Mam teprve 1 den kubuntu a nevim jak se instaluje	11:06
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papatom	pls help	11:06
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linija2	partitioned /boot with 100MB then "encrypted" hda for the rest	11:06
linija2	boots fine	11:06
linija2	runs fine	11:06
linija2	trying to install kde-core and it won't finish	11:06
raylu	papatom, what language?	11:07
linija2	says error /var "read only file system	11:07
papatom	czech	11:07
raylu	linija2, i take /var to be the mount point...what's mounted there?	11:07
raylu	!cz \| papatom	11:07
ubotu	papatom: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.	11:07
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linija2	installed plain debian base system... now trying to install GUI and did apt-get install kde-core	11:08
raylu	linija2...what's mounted at /var?	11:08
linija2	nothing	11:08
raylu	...then how can it be read-only?	11:08
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raylu	type mount in a terminal and show me the output for /var	11:09
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linija2	ohh.. one sec.. it's on my laptop	11:09
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linija2	devpts	11:10
linija2	udev	11:10
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linija2	tmpfs	11:10
tanja	hello, having some probs with playing mp3s	11:11
linija2	making sense ?	11:11
raylu	...the output for /var	11:11
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raylu	tanja, i think you need to install libxine-extracodecs	11:11
linija2	it's on my laptop and I'm typing to you from PC	11:11
linija2	can't copy / paste :)	11:11
raylu	!pastebine \| linija2	11:11
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	11:11
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raylu	!pastebin \| linija2	11:12
ubotu	linija2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	11:12
linija2	I'll be back.. gotta figure this out.. thnks raylu	11:13
tanja	amarok and other players play the song, but no sound it given to the speakers.. and they dont play track normal	11:14
raylu	tanja, close all your players, killlall artsd, try again	11:14
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tanja	let me try	11:15
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tanja	raylo: no no sound is given, and the track dont play normal, it "jumps", from 0:00 to 5:00, 10:00 ... and so on till end	11:17
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tanja	system sounds work fine..	11:19
crackhead_25	question: anyone know how to get kaffeine to stop hanging? i played some movie on it, and it seemed to have some corrupted portion, and kaffeine hanged. then i had to kill kaffine and its kio page. now when i play kaffeine, i can't hear any sound on things, and when i try to skip ahead (in a movie), it hangs agan, and i have to kill it again. anyone know what to do?	11:20
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BluesKaj	crackhead_25, sorry to say my kaffeine is broken as well, so i switched to VLC , it plays great ,highly recommended	11:22
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dogatemycomputer	crackhead_25: i had a similar problem and switched to kplayer (not to be confused with kmplayer)	11:23
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allergen	hi everybody	11:24
crackhead_25	just all of a sudden?	11:24
crackhead_25	i tried the others. the others have the same problem.	11:24
crackhead_25	i think it has to do with a driver that is still running or something.. like maybe i have to refresh/re-start a driver thread??	11:24
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BluesKaj	dogatemycomputer, kplayer	11:29
BluesKaj	?	11:29
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raijinsetsu	Can someone give me some help with a fresh install of Kubuntu using an existing LVM?	11:30
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linija2	raylu.. u still here	11:31
raijinsetsu	Can someone give me some help with a fresh install of Kubuntu using an existing LVM?	11:32
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linija2	ummm. I screwed up FSTAB.. now can't edit...can anyone help	11:32
KevinAlaska	Hello Everyone! :) Might anyone know the difference between the DVD & CD versions of Kubuntu? From the install I can't see anything different and does not seem to install extra packages..	11:33
KevinAlaska	Sorry linija2... I sure can not help you. :(	11:34
linija2	raijinsetsu... does Kubuntu give u option to encrypt partition or just LVM?	11:34
SlimeyPete	KevinAlaska: the DVD has lot sof packages from the repositories on it. It's mainly useful for PCs without 'net access.	11:34
linija2	DVD has a whole lot of packages	11:34
raijinsetsu	lini: when using the alt-install CD, I can type vgscan, and that lists my VG00, but pvscan reports theres no device mapper.	11:34
blekos_	when i installed kubuntu i made two partition 1. / 2. /home, now under / i see a /home folder what's going on	11:34
KevinAlaska	oh.. How might you install them from the DVD? Manually browse the DVD file system?	11:35
SlimeyPete	blekos_: under Linux, partitions are mounted into directories	11:35
SlimeyPete	blekos_: so your home partition has been mounted under /home	11:35
raijinsetsu	The problem is my usr,var,home directories are in the LVM, but the partitioner doesn't see them, and therefore won't install into them.	11:35
SlimeyPete	it's actually pointing to your second partition.	11:35
blekos_	but when i want to see the remaiming space in / partion would it calculate the /home as occupied space?	11:36
raijinsetsu	no	11:36
SlimeyPete	nope	11:36
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Al	Hlo. How do I auto-rejoin on kick in Konversation?	11:36
blekos_	i c	11:36
raijinsetsu	blekos: type "df -h"	11:37
SlimeyPete	blekos_: notice that your cd/dvd drive is in a directory called "/media/", btw	11:37
SlimeyPete	same principle.	11:37
linija2	Hey..."SlimeyPete" ;) .. how do you make it so the person you are talking to name appears in < > instead of typing name out?	11:37
KevinAlaska	Anyone know if I can do a reinstall on this Kubuntu feisty but still keep the data directory of my porfile /home/kevinalaska (only 1 on the computer)?	11:37
blekos_	yes	11:37
LjL	Al: you can't and that's a feature :)	11:37
Al	It's a crap feature	11:37
Al	Fix it :(	11:38
raijinsetsu	Kevin: is /home on a different partition?	11:38
SlimeyPete	KevinAlaska: you can just back up what's in that directory, then copy it back over after your reinstall	11:38
KevinAlaska	no.. just swap and ext3	11:38
Al	/kick in the channels I attend is generally considered an amical greeting :x	11:38
Al	amicable*	11:38
SlimeyPete	KevinAlaska: just make sure you back up the .* directories as well as the normal ones	11:38
raijinsetsu	Then you have to do a backup, like Slimey says :)	11:38
blekos_	but wont he loose his program settings?	11:39
raijinsetsu	Not if you mean desktop settings	11:39
SlimeyPete	blekos_: they're generally stored in/home/ (usually in directories and files which are named .[something] )	11:39
blekos_	i mean if u have install ie gnucash	11:39
KevinAlaska	okay my backup is not here at the moment and I dont have much to save just wouldn't mind fixing the errors now instead of waiting.. I am bad that way. :(	11:39
SlimeyPete	blekos_: then your settings are in /home/you/.gnucash	11:39
SlimeyPete	(iirc)	11:40
blekos_	i c	11:40
KevinAlaska	test	11:40
raijinsetsu	Kevin... You could be dangerous and delete all directories EXCEPT home... But... That's difficult at times.	11:40
blekos_	hm, i've run deporphan and autoclean but my / partion has only 8,7gb of 16.5 free (i've install gnome as well)	11:40
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KevinAlaska	at times.. heh	11:40
raijinsetsu	After the delete, you could re-install to that partition and choose not to format.	11:41
blekos_	is there a way to have more space?	11:41
Al	ohay does Konversation have scripting?	11:41
Al	Or is the omission of that a feature too?	11:41
raijinsetsu	blekos: only if you're using LVM or something similar	11:41
KevinAlaska	what about resizing the partition?	11:41
SlimeyPete	blekos_: delete applications. That's about your only option, really.	11:41
KevinAlaska	what does KDE use for this and is it "some what" friendly?	11:41
raijinsetsu	So... Does anyone have any clues on how to install 7.04 using an existing LVM group?	11:42
raijinsetsu	Kev: you'd have to use the command line	11:42
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KevinAlaska	ahhh.. no GUI format for this.. heh.. never mind there then. I am to newbie in linux for this. I am still good with DOS (/shudder) just not much yet on any of the shells in Linux. =/	11:43
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blekos_	slimeypete, i've also installed kbfx, if i had make a clean install and then restored only home directory, would it reappear? my questin basically is: aren't there any progrs that require to put components into the /?	11:43
jrattner1	Question: What can I do to reset the password for KDE wallet if I forgot it?	11:43
raijinsetsu	blekos_: if they do, they're doing it wrong. All App settings belong in your home directory. Only System Apps have config in /etc	11:43
raijinsetsu	Or, that's the way it's supposed to be.	11:44
SlimeyPete	blekos_: some system components store configuration options in /etc, but other than that programs just use your home directory. If yuo run a program, that program can only write to your home directory anyway - only programs running with root priviledges (i.e. after you have typed your password in) can write to the rest of the system	11:44
blekos_	hmm, but when i installed kbfx i did sudo aptitude install <package>	11:45
KevinAlaska	how does one send that little sound when they message you in chat? I am using Kopete.	11:45
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SlimeyPete	that's fine. That was just installation. When you run it, it runs as you, not root.	11:46
blekos_	the same applies to firestarter etc	11:46
blekos_	ok	11:46
blekos_	got the difference	11:46
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SlimeyPete	blekos_: though... kbfx is a menu, isn't it?	11:46
blekos_	yes it is	11:46
SlimeyPete	so actually it might be one of the exceptions, I'm not sure. But 95% of progs just use your home directory.	11:47
SlimeyPete	stuff like your web browser, word processor, that sort of thing :)	11:47
blekos_	but you actually mention "all app *settings" so what about the program itself?	11:47
raijinsetsu	You'd have to re-install the program	11:47
raijinsetsu	But, it shouldn't over-write your settings	11:48
SlimeyPete	yeah.	11:48
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liam	hi	11:53
dwidmann	hi	11:54
blekos_	is there a way to get rid of gnome while keeping a few programs (gnucash, firestarter)	11:54
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liam	i have prblem with the audio on my lappy, could ayone help me?	11:54
crimsun	liam: can you be more specific?	11:55
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liam	yup! Adsio was fine earlier. I unmuted the speakers about 5 mins ago to watch something on youtube and there is a constant beeping in the background	11:55
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liam	they sound like bios beeps / pc speaker	11:56
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liam	doesnt matter	11:56
liam	i am stupid and have fixed it	11:56
ubuntu	oi	11:56
ubuntu	tem alguem ae	11:57
ubuntu	quem pode me ajuda a liga o beryl no kubuntu?	11:57
ubuntu	oi	11:57
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liam	if anyone isntalls kwifi manager and then heres beeps when you unmute your speakers	11:57
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liam	try exiting kwifi first! then it should be grand	11:58
LjL	!es \| ubuntu	11:58
ubotu	ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	11:58
LjL	!pt \| ubuntu	11:58
ubotu	ubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.	11:58
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LjL	blekos_: yes but the basic GNOME libraries that those programs need will stay there...	12:00
LjL	!purekde	12:00
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about purekde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:00
LjL	where was it	12:00
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LjL	http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde	12:00
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sl00	Hi. I just installed apache2 using Kubuntu's Adept Manager. I copied the sites-available/default to have a site at a different location than /var/www (I want the default aswell) but how do I access the other site. I changed NameVirtualHost from * to 'devsite' and same with the <VirtualHost *> tag. I added a symlink in 'sites-enabled' and named it 001-devsite aswell.	12:01
blekos_	ok thnx	12:01
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dominik_	moin	12:07
dominik_	anyone already tried the new linuxmce 1.1?	12:08
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dogatemycomputer	dominik_: I have never tried it but it looks cool. Thanks!	12:10
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