[12:16] <PhinnFort> now I've done it myself, just to check that I did it right
[12:16] <carl_> nothing happened
[12:16] <PhinnFort> kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend kde"
[12:17] <PhinnFort> from - to -: -kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend kde"-
[12:17] <masterk> how do I find my kernel version?
[12:17] <PhinnFort> carl_: what did it say in the console
[12:17] <PhinnFort> masterk: uname .a
[12:17] <Cruzader> uname -r
[12:17] <PhinnFort> masterk: uname -a
[12:17] <PhinnFort> -r
[12:17] <Cruzader> or that
[12:17] <Coldwar55> Do I have to restart the xsession for changes in the fstab table to take effect?
[12:17] <PhinnFort> -r just gives version;)
[12:17] <masterk> in console?
[12:17] <Cruzader> -r is just kernel version
[12:17] <carl_> it just went on down to another line
[12:17] <Cruzader> ye
[12:17] <Cruzader> yes
[12:17] <PhinnFort> Coldwar55: you should reboot, to be on the safe side
[12:18] <Coldwar55> Ok
[12:18] <K-Ryan> Hey guys
[12:18] <PhinnFort> carl_: something is weird, but do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:18] <K-Ryan> I need help making a shortcut.
[12:18] <carl_> now in the configure display it says "this configureation section is already opened resize and rotate"
[12:18] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: drag, hold ctrl+shift, drop
[12:19] <K-Ryan> It's more complicated than that =P
[12:19] <carl_> nothing happened again
[12:19] <masterk> hey I was wondering... is there a way to move my kubuntu setup from this hard drive to another?
[12:19] <K-Ryan> I need "steam.exe" to be opened, through wine.
[12:19] <K-Ryan> masterk: No
[12:19] <PhinnFort> masterk: yes
[12:19] <masterk> who is right?
[12:19] <K-Ryan> Well I mean you can't take it and move it over.
[12:19] <PhinnFort> masterk: just get the package list, and your /home
[12:19] <K-Ryan> You could copy it over
[12:19] <Coldwar55> One more question, how do I add a program to start up?
[12:19] <lobster> K-Ryan man, you are in her alot now! try right click, make new shortcut
[12:20] <PhinnFort> masterk: it should be okay to just move the hard drive too
[12:20] <K-Ryan> Well yeah PhinnFort but that's not the whole thing.
[12:20] <K-Ryan> Can you really move the whole thing?
[12:20] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: this isn't windows, you can actually move the harddrive to another machine
[12:20] <K-Ryan> lobster: I do come in here often
[12:20] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: microsoft has put in artificial restraints on that
[12:20] <K-Ryan> PhinnFort: I know you can move the physical hard drive, but it sounded like he wanted to move a partition from one HDD to another.
[12:20] <carl_> I'll brb
[12:20] <K-Ryan> That's possible?
[12:21] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: dd?
[12:21] <masterk> well I'm not talking about the packages I'm talking about all the configurations I'm about to make to the kernel and such because I'm working out the glitches right now using the thinkpad wiki
[12:21] <K-Ryan> Hard Drive Disk
[12:21] <PhinnFort> masterk: you can use a copy program that preserves links and rights
[12:21] <lobster> PhinnFort, you can but there are issues with moving certain directories over. anything in /home should be fine though
[12:21] <K-Ryan> Anyways
[12:21] <masterk> what do you mean phinnfort?
[12:21] <PhinnFort> lobster: you mean /dev?
[12:22] <K-Ryan> I need to make a shortcut that will open a file through wine.
[12:22] <PhinnFort> masterk: using cp --archive, I think would do it
[12:22] <Coldwar55> Hmm funny, Beryl is fine on my laptop but kills my desktop
[12:22] <K-Ryan> Coldwar55: Video card drivers setup right?
[12:22] <Coldwar55> Correct
[12:22] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: right click, shortcut to program, wine as program, program to be run with path as arguments
[12:22] <Coldwar55> Well
[12:22] <masterk> what is the cp command?
[12:22] <Coldwar55> Laptop has an Intel chip and Desktp is ATI
[12:22] <K-Ryan> There's your problem.
[12:22] <PhinnFort> masterk: "cp --archive /source /target"
[12:22] <Coldwar55> So yeah :
[12:22] <Coldwar55> I know
[12:22] <lobster> phinnfort /ev isn't real, so it will rewrite itself
[12:23] <lobster> phinnfort ^^ /dev
[12:23] <Coldwar55> Even though it's a decent ATI card it still has problem
[12:23] <PhinnFort> lobster: /dev is real, it's just not normal files
[12:23] <Coldwar55> Cause ATI is anal like that.
[12:23] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[12:23] <PhinnFort> lobster: you can make /dev files with mknod
[12:23] <carl_> I'm back
[12:23] <masterk> ah... hmm... but how do I copy it back into the other installation when the other installation is running?
[12:23] <carl_> I just rebooted
[12:23] <ReMiiRuru> I was wondering, what good image viewers for linux are out there? Something with file browser that can access archived files would be nice...
[12:23] <K-Ryan> When I had an Ati I had trouble with Beryl, I'm not sure if it was before or after I had setup fglrx though.
[12:24] <PhinnFort> carl_: how is it?
[12:24] <carl_> now my screen looks uglier than ever
[12:24] <carl_> 640X480
[12:24] <Cruzader> i just wish ATi would fix it so i can use AIGLX, i hate XGL
[12:24] <K-Ryan> PhinnFort: I'm not exactly getting this shortcut thing.
[12:24] <masterk> maybe I'll just do all the config after I install
[12:24] <Coldwar55> Yeah well I'm not goign to go out and buy a card to replace my Sapphire X1600 Pro
[12:24] <Coldwar55> Just fro Beryl/XGL
[12:24] <PhinnFort> carl_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --frontend noninteractive
[12:25] <PhinnFort> carl_: that should try to set it up automatically
[12:25] <Coldwar55> Desktop is absolutely fine without it
[12:25] <PhinnFort> carl_: afterwards, close open programs, ctrl+alt+bspace
[12:25] <lobster> Phinnfort, the whole point of /dev is that it is just like normal files, but it isn't real, in that if you install the extfs on windows, there will be nothing in /dev.but since it is virtually managed by the system, it will rewrite itself.
[12:25] <carl_> k
[12:25] <carl_> will do
[12:25] <PhinnFort> lobster: it's written by udev
[12:25] <Cruzader> Coldwar55: yeah i just got it so direct-rendering was enabled, bugger XGL or all that other stuff. just so i have accel when i need it
[12:25] <PhinnFort> lobster: and I believe if you pull the plug, then boot up in windows, /dev will be populated
[12:26] <masterk> how big should I make swap?
[12:26] <PhinnFort> masterk: 2x your ram, is my thumbrule
[12:26] <Coldwar55> has to be at least 256 MB
[12:26] <PhinnFort> lobster: ...or not on ubuntu, it has it as a ramdisk;)
[12:26] <PhinnFort> masterk: but how much ram do you have?
[12:26] <Fivetwentysix> How do i restart X?
[12:26] <K-Ryan> ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:26] <Coldwar55> Typically 1 gig ram = 2 gb swap
[12:27] <masterk> i'll just make it a gig... not much loss on a 80 gig drive
[12:27] <PhinnFort> Fivetwentysix: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:27] <carl_> nope, same as b4
[12:27] <K-Ryan> I think ctrl+alt+backspace is easier.
[12:27] <masterk> I have 256+128...
[12:27] <PhinnFort> carl_: same as when?
[12:27] <masterk> I'm being slow someone do that math
[12:27] <PhinnFort> carl_: before we started?
[12:27] <K-Ryan> 384?
[12:27] <masterk> i guess?
[12:27] <carl_> lol worse
[12:27] <K-Ryan> Yeah sounds right
[12:27] <K-Ryan> 768 swap
[12:28] <carl_> the setting tops out as 640X480
[12:28] <K-Ryan> To be exact.
[12:28] <masterk> but yes I have 2 sticks of ram in there and one is 256 and the other is 128
[12:28] <K-Ryan> You could always bump it up to 800MB to even it out if you wanted.
[12:28] <carl_> and second monitor is still going crazy
[12:28] <PhinnFort> carl_: can you manage to open xorg.conf with "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste it to rafb.net/paste?
[12:28] <carl_> what would u like me 2 paste
[12:28] <PhinnFort> carl_: the xorg.conf file
[12:28] <K-Ryan> All of it
[12:29] <PhinnFort> carl_: run "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and it should open
[12:29] <carl_> oh ok
[12:29] <PhinnFort> carl_: then I will post a (hopefully) working one, that you can replace the original with
[12:29] <carl_> awsome ok
[12:29] <K-Ryan> PhinnFort: For the shortcut you mean Link to application under "New" ?
[12:29] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: yeah
[12:29] <masterk> well off to format an 80 gig
[12:30] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:30] <hydan> when i do apt-get remove konversation, i'm told that kubuntu-desktop has to be removed as well.
[12:30] <hydan> is this true?
[12:30] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: I have a norwegian locale, so...
[12:30] <K-Ryan> Gotcha
[12:30] <PhinnFort> hydan: don't worry
[12:30] <PhinnFort> hydan: it's not a real package
[12:30] <K-Ryan> I don't get this shortcut making though.
[12:30] <PhinnFort> hydan: it just depends on all the default applications
[12:30] <K-Ryan> I don't see how to make it use wine.
[12:31] <hydan> ok
[12:31] <hydan> thanks PhinnFort
[12:31] <PhinnFort> yw
[12:31] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: under command write "wine"
[12:31] <luca> hi - is anyone here non-english speaking and using Latex?
[12:31] <K-Ryan> Oh, thought I needed a file path.
[12:31] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: followed by the full path to the program
[12:31] <K-Ryan> luca what language?
[12:31] <K-Ryan> PhinnFort: Oh, much easier, thanks.
[12:31] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: choose the path where it is installed
[12:31] <PhinnFort> the .exe, that is
[12:31] <Cruzader> bah phinn beat me to it
[12:31] <K-Ryan> Yeah, thanks.
[12:32] <PhinnFort> ;D
[12:32] <PhinnFort> carl_: you can get it to just auto-detect again by (re)moving the config file
[12:33] <PhinnFort> carl_: "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[12:33] <PhinnFort> "
[12:33] <PhinnFort> and ctraltbspace
[12:33] <luca> K-Ryan: Italian
[12:33] <K-Ryan> !italian
[12:33] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[12:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:33] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:33] <K-Ryan> Hmm, Ubotu isn't working?
[12:33] <K-Ryan> Ah there we go
[12:34] <luca> K-Ryan: some problems with accented chars, but someone on the italian channel is already helping thanks :)
[12:34] <K-Ryan> Oh, alright just figured I'd let you know about that if you didn't know.
[12:34] <carl_> ok, I think I managed 2 do it, (kinda dificult on 640X480 :P) http://rafb.net/p/uayMng65.html
[12:34] <PhinnFort> carl_: understandably;)
[12:35] <Graham> does http://packages.ubuntu.com work for anybody here?
[12:36] <K-Ryan> Not me
[12:36] <PhinnFort> carl_: http://rafb.net/p/fZiUAS12.html
[12:36] <PhinnFort> carl_: it has a maximum resolution of 1600x1200
[12:36] <PhinnFort> which is what I use
[12:36] <carl_> that is good
[12:36] <carl_> that is what I generally run
[12:36] <carl_> in windows :P
[12:37] <PhinnFort> carl_: just replace what's in the file you have opened, with what I pasted
[12:37] <jerware> hello
[12:37] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[12:37] <jerware> what is a light weight paint program?
[12:37] <jerware> linux eqivilant to ms paint
[12:37] <K-Ryan> Err, well Krita comes default.
[12:37] <PhinnFort> !info kolourpaint | jerware
[12:37] <ubotu> jerware: kolourpaint: a simple paint program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1047 kB, installed size 2360 kB
[12:37] <jerware> i need the hex values for colors too, php/html
[12:37] <jerware> thanx pal
[12:37] <PhinnFort> jerware: kolourpaint is what you want
[12:37] <PhinnFort> yw
[12:37] <carl_> do I have 2 click save anywhere?
[12:38] <PhinnFort> carl_: try ctrl+s
[12:38] <PhinnFort> carl_: it should warn you if you haven't saved
[12:38] <carl_> ok, so now I close all progs and crt alt bkspc?
[12:38] <PhinnFort> carl_: yeah
[12:38] <PhinnFort> carl_: and pray;)
[12:38] <carl_> k thanks
[12:38] <K-Ryan> How do I resize icons?
[12:38] <carl_> I'll brb
[12:39] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: alt+f2, kcontrol, search for icons
[12:39] <Coldwar55> lol linux auto corrects errors on windows drives?
[12:39] <Coldwar55> upon startup
[12:39] <PhinnFort> yeah
[12:39] <Coldwar55> Funny :p
[12:39] <K-Ryan> No I mean resize just one.
[12:39] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: how do you mean?
[12:39] <K-Ryan> I can't remember if I did it on Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[12:39] <K-Ryan> You could change the size of icons, stretch 'em and the like.
[12:39] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: sounds stupid;)
[12:40] <PhinnFort> sorry, but it really does;)
[12:40] <K-Ryan> No no, I know
[12:40] <K-Ryan> But my Steam shortcut icon is a penguin.
[12:40] <K-Ryan> And it deserves to be bigger.
[12:40] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:40] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: you could ask in #kde
[12:40] <PhinnFort> the kdesktop and fileview and whatever-developers hang there, so if anyone knows about something like that, they do
[12:41] <K-Ryan> It's not that big of a deal, just figured I'd ask if anyone knew.
[12:41] <lobster> K-ryan: right click, configure desktop- behovior - fili icons
[12:41] <utnubuk> i dont have ownership rights on my usbdisk, what command do i use to get it back?
[12:41] <K-Ryan> Just one icon, not all of them lobster =P
[12:41] <utnubuk> chmod of some kind i assume?
[12:41] <PhinnFort> utnubuk: yeah, sudo chmod
[12:41] <PhinnFort> utnubuk: or rather chown
[12:41] <K-Ryan> kubuntu backwards, nice
[12:41] <utnubuk> :
[12:42] <PhinnFort> utnubuk: or kdesu konqueror, and navigate and right click, permissions
[12:42] <lobster> K-ryan: you could right click on the specific icon and change it to something bigger?
[12:42] <utnubuk> ok ty
[12:42] <K-Ryan> lobster: Don't worry about it =P
[12:43] <K-Ryan> It's really not that big of a deal, so I'm off to go enjoy Half-Life on Linux
[12:43] <PhinnFort> glhf
[12:43] <K-Ryan> I pretty much severed my last tie to Windows by finally figuring Wine out =)
[12:43] <ahmed> guys ,, any one know a java editor that compiles and is working on ubuntu ?
[12:43] <PhinnFort> Eclipse?
[12:43] <K-Ryan> Thanks PhinnFort, catch you guys later.
[12:43] <PhinnFort> !eclipse
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <PhinnFort> !info eclipse
[12:43] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 124 kB, installed size 412 kB
[12:44] <ahmed> eclipse is an ide
[12:44] <ahmed> kinda too complex
[12:44] <carl_> k I'm back
[12:44] <carl_> now we seem to be getting somewhere
[12:44] <ahmed> jgrasp ,, jeditor,,, bluej all are fine
[12:44] <ahmed> but any version for linux ?
[12:44] <carl_> where back where we started now :D
[12:44] <carl_> lol
[12:45] <PhinnFort> carl_: resolution?
[12:45] <PhinnFort> ahmed: try Kate?
[12:45] <PhinnFort> carl_: 640x480?
[12:45] <carl_> I'm topping out at 1280X1024 now
[12:46] <SlimeyPete> suely you can run bluej in linux.... it's java-based
[12:46] <PhinnFort> carl_: now, I see why
[12:46] <ahmed> Kate ?
[12:46] <carl_> I think that it is recogniseing the monitor wrong, i was playing with some settings to get it to go 2 1600X1200
[12:46] <ahmed> got a link ?
[12:46] <PhinnFort> carl_: have you installed the NVidia driver
[12:46] <PhinnFort> ahmed: you already have her
[12:46] <PhinnFort> ahmed: alt+f2, kate
[12:46] <carl_> nope it is a fresh kubuntu install
[12:46] <carl_> (i'm a noob) very noob when it comes 2 linux
[12:46] <PhinnFort> !nvidia
[12:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:47] <PhinnFort> carl_: I'll help you
[12:47] <carl_> ok
[12:47] <ahmed> oh ya
[12:47] <ahmed> but it doesnt compile
[12:47] <carl_> when I changed monitor settings it said 2 restart the x server or something
[12:47] <carl_> should I do that
[12:47] <PhinnFort> carl_: yes, probably
[12:47] <PhinnFort> carl_: but first install the nvidia drivers
[12:47] <carl_> ok
[12:48] <carl_> how do I do that?
[12:48] <PhinnFort> carl_: I'm not really sure how to do it, doesn't tell in the wiki
[12:48] <carl_> windows analogies will really help me*
[12:48] <PhinnFort> carl_: but go to the hardware tab of the monitor and display settings
[12:48] <carl_> i'm there
[12:48] <carl_> driver says "nv"
[12:48] <PhinnFort> carl_: click on configure
[12:49] <carl_> k
[12:49] <PhinnFort> click on select
[12:49] <carl_> it goes to Geforce FX (generic)
[12:50] <PhinnFort> carl_: try "Ok"
[12:50] <carl_> ok
[12:50] <carl_> that was the same setting as b4
[12:50] <PhinnFort> oh...
[12:50] <PhinnFort> hang on
[12:51] <carl_> k
[12:51] <PhinnFort> I don't have an nvidia, nor do I need those darn, pesky binary drivers;)
[12:51] <PhinnFort> so this is kinda new to me
[12:51] <PhinnFort> carl_: go to Add/Remove programs
[12:52] <PhinnFort> search for "nvidia"
[12:52] <carl_> ok i'll give it a try just a minite
[12:52] <PhinnFort> select the nvidia binary driver
[12:54] <carl_> only thing "adept installer" comes up with is "Nvtv TV Out" and it isn't installed
[12:54] <carl_> oh srry it is under the system tab
[12:54] <PhinnFort> carl_: found it?
[12:54] <carl_> so uninstall
[12:54] <carl_> ya
[12:54] <PhinnFort> is it installed?
[12:55] <zeee> http://magegame.ru/?rf=53617264656c6b61
[12:55] <zeee> http://magegame.ru/?rf=53617264656c6b61
[12:55] <zeee> http://magegame.ru/?rf=53617264656c6b61
[12:55] <carl_> nvidia binary X.Org driver
[12:55] <PhinnFort> go die, spammer
[12:55] <PhinnFort> carl_: is it hooked of already?
[12:55] <carl_> nope
[12:55] <carl_> should I deselect it?
[12:55] <PhinnFort> hook it off, and apply
[12:55] <PhinnFort> no, it should be selected
[12:56] <carl_> oops, it was on, now isnt :S
[12:56] <PhinnFort> heh
[12:56] <carl_> put it back on?
[12:56] <PhinnFort> it should be installed
[12:56] <PhinnFort> yeah
[12:57] <carl_> there are 2 there one is a "legacy" what is the diff?
[12:57] <Cruzader> Phinn, what do you use for an IRC client?
[12:57] <PhinnFort> Cruzader: Konvi
[12:57] <PhinnFort> carl_: Legacy is for older stuff
[12:57] <PhinnFort> Cruzader: you did a CTCP-VERSION?
[12:57] <Cruzader> Konversation, or is there another app named Konvi i should be aware of
[12:57] <carl_> what is the def of "older stuff"
[12:57] <carl_> my card is AGP
[12:57] <Cruzader> bah, ive been away from IRC too long, forget i can VERSION
[12:57] <PhinnFort> carl_: TNT-2 and friends
[12:58] <carl_> ok, really old then
[12:58] <carl_> lol
[12:58] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:58] <PhinnFort> it's called legacy for a reason;)
[12:58] <Cruzader> lol Phinn, MS Instant relay chat?
[12:59] <carl_> There was an error commiting changes. It's possible that there was a problem downloading some of the packages, or that the commit would break other packages.
[12:59] <PhinnFort> Cruzader: :P
[12:59] <carl_> that came up when I uninstalled and installed
[12:59] <PhinnFort> carl_: crap...
[12:59] <carl_> both times
[12:59] <PhinnFort> carl_: close adept, open a console, and type in "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx"
[01:00] <carl_> ok that did a bunch f stuff, seems there where lots of errors though
[01:01] <PhinnFort> carl_: can you paste it?
[01:01] <MementoMori> hi all
[01:01] <carl_> what was the url 2 the paste site again?
[01:01] <KevinAlaska> Anyone on here who might be able to answer a question on how to reset a USB drive that shows up in KDE as a folder even if the drive is not connected?  Even when I connect the drive it shows up as a folder but does not bring it up as a usable device, even though I see the drive listed when its plugged and "NTFS configuration" sees it and is configured.  It was working last night when I shut down the computer but didn't do a unmount on it before 
[01:01] <KevinAlaska> to my wiffes computer then reboot THEN I was able to unmount it in WindosXP safty. That didn't fix the Linux problem though. Any ideas? ;(
[01:01] <PhinnFort> rafb.net/paste
[01:01] <MementoMori> where is inittab in feisty?
[01:01] <PhinnFort> KevinAlaska: just try to move the folder
[01:02] <PhinnFort> KevinAlaska: it's probably just a "ghost", if it doesn't show up in "media:/"
[01:02] <carl_> http://rafb.net/p/uk0FNJ47.html
[01:02] <PhinnFort> danke
[01:03] <PhinnFort> carl_: it seems when we brutally killed the config last time, we screwed up some stuff
[01:03] <carl_> lol
[01:03] <KevinAlaska> it did show up in meadia but the move option was not shown in Media.. I did just a control X then right click paste and it moved it from Media...
[01:03] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:03] <carl_> no worries
[01:03] <KevinAlaska> Should I just try plugging it back in now? and thanks for the move idea
[01:03] <carl_> how do i fix?
[01:03] <LjL> MementoMori: nowhere
[01:03] <LjL> !upstart > MementoMori    (MementoMori, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:03] <carl_> I'm here 2 learn
[01:04] <PhinnFort> carl_: I'm looking into it;)
[01:04] <carl_> ok, thanks
[01:04] <MementoMori> thank you LjL
[01:04] <PhinnFort> carl_: apparently, the dpkg (package program) believes that something is using /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[01:04] <PhinnFort> because it didn't exit cleanly
[01:04] <carl_> ok
[01:05] <PhinnFort> carl_: try "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[01:05] <carl_> that rings a bell actually, I saw something about that pop up a while ago
[01:05] <PhinnFort> heh
[01:05] <carl_> ok I typed that in
[01:05] <PhinnFort> try my last command again
[01:05] <carl_> it just came up with another line
[01:06] <PhinnFort> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[01:06] <PhinnFort> carl_:  it should
[01:06] <carl_> I'll paste it
[01:06] <PhinnFort> carl_: does it error out again?
[01:06] <PhinnFort> carl_: try to add an "-f"
[01:07] <PhinnFort> "sudo aptitude -f install nvidia-glx"
[01:07] <voidmage> error - artsmessage
[01:07] <voidmage> Sound server fatal error:
[01:07] <voidmage> error while initializing the sound driver:
[01:07] <voidmage> device: default can't be opened for playback (operation not permitted)
[01:07] <carl_> http://rafb.net/p/PRvDA778.html
[01:07] <PhinnFort> voidmage: have you messed with your users and groups?
[01:07] <voidmage> last thing i did was change my hostname
[01:08] <PhinnFort> carl_: "sudo aptitude -f install nvidia-glx"
[01:08] <PhinnFort> does it change anything?
[01:08] <carl_> I don't know
[01:08] <carl_> I think some stuff might have changed
[01:08] <carl_> I just pasted the results 4 u
[01:08] <carl_> http://rafb.net/p/PRvDA778.html
[01:09] <PhinnFort> carl_: is that with -f?
[01:09] <carl_> ???
[01:09] <PhinnFort> "sudo aptitude -f install nvidia-glx"
[01:09] <PhinnFort> notice the -f switch I added;)
[01:09] <PhinnFort> aptitude -f
[01:10] <carl_> ok
[01:10] <carl_> I just used that last one
[01:10] <PhinnFort> carl_: what does it say?
[01:10] <carl_> pasted it inot console
[01:11] <carl_> last line: Errors were encountered while processing: libssl0.9.7
[01:11] <PhinnFort> hrmm
[01:11] <PhinnFort> carl_: try to run "lsof | grep 'config.dat'"
[01:12] <carl_> nothings seems 2 happen
[01:12] <PhinnFort> wait a bit
[01:12] <carl_> the console just gave me another line, i can type on it
[01:13] <PhinnFort> i know, it means it's working
[01:13] <lnxkde> FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module nvidia.ko uses GPL-only symbol 'para
[01:13] <lnxkde>    virt_ops'
[01:13] <lnxkde>    make[4] : *** [__modpost]  Error 1
[01:13] <carl_> how long 2 I wait?
[01:13] <lnxkde> I get that error when tring to install my nvidia driver
[01:13] <lnxkde> what could it be?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> carl_: lsof shows all open files, while grep only let through files that match
[01:13] <carl_> how long do I wait*
[01:13] <carl_> ???
[01:13] <PhinnFort> carl_: isn't it finished yet?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> carl_: ctrl+c
[01:13] <carl_> nothing happened
[01:14] <carl_> oh ic
[01:14] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. How can I downloa the Kubuntu KDE power configuration/CPU scaler in Ubuntu? I desperately need to scale my CPU down and I can't get cpufreqd working, or do it in Bios.
[01:14] <carl_> it took away the line prefix?
[01:14] <PhinnFort> carl_: it just haven't given it back
[01:14] <carl_> oh???
[01:15] <PhinnFort> carl_: when you have the line prefix, it means that a shell is running, waiting for your commands
[01:15] <carl_> ok, well there is no prefix, just the currsor
[01:15] <PhinnFort> carl_: when you run a command, the shell gives control to that, and when the program/command returns, the shell gives a new prefix
[01:15] <carl_> and a >
[01:15] <voidmage> PhinnFort: still can't get the sound to work
[01:16] <PhinnFort> voidmage: I'm sorry I cant help, but I can only help poor carl before I need to sleep :S
[01:16] <carl_> lol, srry if I'm keeping u up, this isn't urgent or anything
[01:17] <PhinnFort> well, I can't give up;)
[01:17] <utnubuk> i tried kdesu konqueror but that did not allow me to set the permissions for my usbdisk.  what chmod command should i try??
[01:17] <PhinnFort> carl_: try "fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[01:17] <PhinnFort> utnubuk: man:chmod in konqueror
[01:17] <PhinnFort> *man:chown
[01:17] <carl_> lol, it might take some time, i think it is a "carl problem" not a "computer problem"
[01:17] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:18] <PhinnFort> carl_: I just want you to get your darn resolution
[01:18] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:18] <Shaddox> I need help scaling my CPU like I did in Kubuntu, is it possible to download the KDE power configuration module?
[01:18] <PhinnFort> carl_: happy news
[01:18] <carl_> ok, I just put in that last line
[01:18] <PhinnFort> carl_: try to reboot
[01:18] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:19] <carl_> ok
[01:19] <carl_> complete restart
[01:19] <PhinnFort> "The lock is a flock() lock which can only be held open if the process remains running"
[01:19] <carl_> ???
[01:19] <PhinnFort> yeah
[01:19] <carl_> ok
[01:19] <carl_> brb
[01:19] <voidmage> hey about my arts error
[01:19] <voidmage> i think a dpkg-reconfigure artsd fixed it
[01:20] <voidmage> let me restart x and make sure
[01:20] <PhinnFort> voidmage: nice;)
[01:20] <OptimusRex> I'm sort of guessing my way around K-Network manager but I would like to be able to just click a button and connect to the myriad of networks I come accross each day including the work domain
[01:20] <OptimusRex> is there a simple way of handling networks?
[01:20] <PhinnFort> OptimusRex: knetwormanager
[01:20] <PhinnFort> OptimusRex: it should come preinstalled
[01:21] <voidmage> success!
[01:21] <PhinnFort> return 0, then;)
[01:21] <OptimusRex> yes it is preinstalled but changing to the different secured networks I have around me is not easy<PhinnFort>
[01:21] <PhinnFort> someone tell carl I went to the bathroom, if he wonders, mkay?
[01:21] <voidmage> still a few minor errors
[01:21] <voidmage> i think dpkg-reconfigure -a SHOULD fix that
[01:22] <OptimusRex> the work network has a different domain and so does the one at my brother's place compared to my home network
[01:23] <carl_> I'm back
[01:23] <PhinnFort> me too
[01:23] <carl_> what 2 do?
[01:23] <PhinnFort> carl_: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:24] <PhinnFort> search for where it says "  driver "nv"" under "Device"
[01:24] <PhinnFort> replace nv with "nvidia"
[01:24] <voidmage> dpkg-reconfigure --frontend noninteractive -a
[01:24] <OptimusRex> I have a rough idea of how to set up different profiles but somehow it does not work so well as it only gives the installed network adaptors and if you want to use wireless as opo
[01:24] <voidmage> strange i have to run that
[01:25] <OptimusRex> opposed to wried then you're in trouble
[01:25] <carl_> ok I changed that
[01:25] <carl_> save and exit now?
[01:25] <PhinnFort> carl_: yup
[01:26] <carl_> what now?
[01:26] <PhinnFort> and then close all programsctrlaltbspace
[01:26] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:26] <carl_> ok
[01:26] <carl_> brb
[01:26] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:26] <PhinnFort> he's back
[01:27] <carl_> I'm happy now
[01:27] <PhinnFort> 1600?
[01:27] <OptimusRex> is there detailed documentation on knetwork manager that anyone knows about?
[01:27] <PhinnFort> OptimusRex: try kwirelessmanager, maybe?
[01:27] <voidmage> there's some stuff on opensuse's page
[01:27] <voidmage> but nothing substantial
[01:27] <carl_> WOOT it worked!!!
[01:27] <PhinnFort> carl_: :D:D:D
[01:27] <OptimusRex> where is kwireless manager PhinnFort?
[01:28] <OptimusRex> or do I install it from Adept?
[01:28] <PhinnFort> carl_: now do a "glxinfo | grep Direct" please
[01:28] <carl_> 1600X1200 at 78hz
[01:28] <PhinnFort> !info kwireless
[01:28] <ubotu> Package kwireless does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:28] <PhinnFort> !find kwireless
[01:28] <voidmage> !info kwireless-manager
[01:28] <Hobbsee> kwifimanager sucks.
[01:28] <ubotu> Found: kwirelessmonitor
[01:28] <ubotu> Package kwireless-manager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:28] <voidmage> !info kwifimanager
[01:28] <Hobbsee> it's very broken
[01:28] <ubotu> kwifimanager: wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 234 kB, installed size 800 kB
[01:28] <Hobbsee> knetworkmanager tends to work better
[01:28] <PhinnFort> OptimusRex: well, there's a whole lot of programs
[01:29] <PhinnFort> I also saw some python scripts and I believe desktop applets
[01:29] <carl_> ok that didn't seem 2 do anything
[01:29] <OptimusRex> is there one that shows the visible wireless networks?
[01:29] <PhinnFort> carl_: "glxinfo | grep -i Direct"
[01:29] <PhinnFort> i mean
[01:29] <PhinnFort> OptimusRex: KNetworkManager does that here
[01:30] <PhinnFort> carl_: does it say yes?
[01:30] <carl_> yuppers
[01:30] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:30] <carl_> :D
[01:30] <PhinnFort> carl_: you, my friend, now even have 3D-acceleration
[01:30] <carl_> SUWEEET
[01:30] <PhinnFort> now I will retire to my quarters
[01:30] <carl_> I saw the nvida spash screen on restart
[01:31] <PF-Away> :P
[01:31] <carl_> berl?
[01:31] <carl_> will that work now?
[01:31] <voidmage> i can't wait to see the nvidia splash
[01:31] <voidmage> come tuesday
[01:31] <PF-Away> carl_: should
[01:31] <PF-Away> carl_: but I can't promise anything;)
[01:31] <PF-Away> !beryl
[01:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:31] <voidmage> this is another nifty feature
[01:32] <carl_> thanks allot PhinnFort!!!
[01:32] <PF-Away> carl_: it should be just a matter of adding the repositories/installing in Adept, and running
[01:32] <voidmage> konqueror: ctrl+e
[01:32] <PF-Away> you're very welcome;)
[01:32] <carl_> ok i added previously but couldn't get it 2 work
[01:32] <voidmage> run one command working out of your current directory
[01:32] <luca> carl_ if you add: Option  NoLogo true you will see the logo no more :D
[01:32] <carl_> I like the logo :P
[01:32] <luca> oh ok ;)
[01:32] <OptimusRex> PhinnFort for some reason mine does not show the available networks. It did initially but all that is gone and i don't know how to turn it on
[01:33] <voidmage> oh that's why the windows all move down when i hide kicker
[01:33] <voidmage> the're docked to kicker
[01:34] <SlimeyPete> I can still connect to them manually, though
[01:35] <voidmage> or they're not docked to the top
[01:35] <voidmage> interesting
[01:35] <OptimusRex> I have the same problem SlimeyPete
[01:36] <jerware> hi im having a web browser issue. Konquoror
[01:36] <OptimusRex> does anyone know how to turn on the display for available networks so as to enable one to choose what to connect to ?
[01:36] <jerware> what plug-in is needed for you tube?
[01:36] <masterk> flash
[01:36] <jerware> OptimusRex: try netstat
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: mine seemed to lose them after we switched the network to WPA and I tried to connect (it didn't work, and we switched back to WEP)
[01:36] <jerware> if there are connections you dont want, kill the PID
[01:37] <SlimeyPete> since then, I've not been able to see any networks
[01:37] <masterk> jerware: flash media player for whichever browser you are using
[01:39] <masterk> what package do I need to install my wifi card using windows drivers?
[01:39] <masterk> I forget
[01:39] <BlindSIde> ndiswrapper
[01:39] <masterk> thx
[01:39] <OptimusRex> thanks jereware. Is there a way of switching the display so tha I don't have to netstat all the time? By the way, I find that Konqueror does not show my gmail well so I installed mozilla firefox
[01:41] <jerware> can kaffiene rip audio tracks?
[01:43] <OptimusRex> heeeeeeeeeeeeelp! Anyone know how to turn the display for available networks on?
[01:44] <sl00> Hi. When I run the Adept Updater or Adept MAnager it says the database is locked even tho I just booted up. How do I fix this?
[01:44] <carl_> can someone help me with beryl? I just started it up and the top bar on my windows vanished! So I cannnot move the windows around on my screen
[01:45] <phpcode> How to get a valid-ident on irc?
[01:47] <hydan> i've a few questions :)
[01:47] <hydan> in gnome there's startup sessions, is there anything like that in kde?
[01:48] <hydan> some program that allows you to specify which programs run on startup
[01:49] <masterk_> ugh... I got disconnected and it think's I'm still logged on as masterk can someone tell me how to to tell the server that i just reconnected
[01:51] <phpcode> masterk_: it shold disconnect soon :-)
[01:51] <masterk_> kk thanks
[01:51] <masterk_> hey does anyone know what kind of programming would be good for me to get into?
[01:52] <masterk_> I only know HTML, CSS, and BASIC
[01:52] <masterk_> I want to learn programming and network administration so I can get jobs doing those
[01:53] <RawSewage> Python maybe
[01:54] <masterk_> umm... when I open up adept it says Su returned with an error.
[01:55] <utnubuk> has anybody ran into problems with their sound? i reinstalled edgy and now i can't hear anything :(
[01:56] <dkkong> Current virtual machine
[01:56] <hendaus> hiya
[01:56] <dkkong> Is there any way I can use my Lexmark's Scanner Feature under Linux? I see it listed under lsusb, but nothing will work with it software wise.
[01:57] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[01:57] <cWolfe> dkkong,  a long time ago i had a lexmark all in one scanner/printer
[01:57] <cWolfe> i never got the scanner working
[01:57] <cWolfe> things may have chnaged
[01:57] <dkkong> Did the printer ever work on it either?
[01:58] <cWolfe> dont remember
[01:58] <dkkong> USB?
[01:58] <cWolfe> yes
[01:58] <cWolfe> if i recall, it shows up as having a builtin usb hub inside of it
[01:58] <dkkong> Same here :/
[01:59] <dkkong> It does.. and it even shows up as Lexmark International under lsusb.
[01:59] <hendaus> can anyone help me how to open my second hard disk please!
[01:59] <cWolfe> hendaus,  a torx t8 should work
[02:00] <hendaus> cWolfe:  i am newbie friend,
[02:00] <cWolfe> im just messing with you
[02:00] <dkkong> sudo mount /dev/yourharddisc here /whereyouwantitmounted
[02:01] <cWolfe> hendaus,  using fiesty?
[02:01] <hendaus> cWolfe:  how ca i know if fiesty?
[02:01] <cWolfe> uname -a
[02:02] <hendaus> cWolfe:  Linux hendaus 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:02] <cWolfe> me thinks that is edgy
[02:03] <dkkong> Correct you are
[02:03] <cWolfe> look for hda or hdb in /dev/
[02:04] <hendaus> cWolfe:  i have hda1 , but i want hdb1
[02:04] <dkkong> fdisk -l should show you all drives connected?
[02:04] <cWolfe> does hdb exist?
[02:04] <hendaus> yes but cannot open
[02:05] <OlliK> Hi, does anyone here have a Windows XP or 2000?
[02:05] <dkkong> I think that's a hangable offense around here...
[02:05] <cWolfe> i have windows at work
[02:05] <hendaus> OlliK:  use kubuntu better than windows
[02:05] <OlliK> I need one file from there, it's called msgsm32.acm and it's in system32-folder...
[02:05] <OlliK> hendaus: I'm using kubuntu
[02:06] <OlliK> OlliK: If I had windows, I would copy the file by myself :)
[02:06] <hendaus> cWolfe:  how can i open the sourcelist , ?
[02:06] <OlliK> I'm trying to get Ventrilo working via Wine, but I need that file in order to make the GSM-codec to work
[02:07] <OlliK> So if anyone here has Windows 2000 or XP, I would appreciate a lot if someone could send me the file msgsm32.acm which is in system32-folder..
[02:08] <hendaus> anyone knows how to open the sourceslist thanx
[02:08] <OlliK> np I got it already
[02:11] <hendaus> helpers, can anyone help
[02:12] <carl_> any beryl experts here?
[02:13] <hendaus> hiya
[02:13] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[02:13] <BlindSIde> hry carl_ whats wrong with beryl?
[02:13] <carl_> I'm having trouble with beryl killing my window frames
[02:13] <carl_> so then I can't resize or move windows
[02:13] <BlindSIde> when you resize?
[02:13] <BlindSIde> i got taht problem when i resized
[02:14] <carl_> they just disapear alltogether
[02:14] <BlindSIde> so i went ot the settings
[02:14] <BlindSIde> and i changed the mode from normal to scale
[02:14] <carl_> when beryl is activated
[02:14] <BlindSIde> change the resize mode
[02:14] <BlindSIde> to scale
[02:14] <BlindSIde> and itll be sweet
[02:15] <BlindSIde> sorry i mean stretch
[02:15] <BlindSIde> Window Management - Resize Window
[02:15] <BlindSIde> Behaviour
[02:15] <carl_> ok
[02:15] <BlindSIde> Resize Display Mode - Set that to stretch
[02:16] <carl_> nope didn't work
[02:16] <BlindSIde> it didnt?
[02:16] <BlindSIde> still freezes?
[02:16] <carl_> as soon as as I turn on beryl my window borders just vanish
[02:16] <BlindSIde> hmm
[02:16] <BlindSIde> thats a different problem
[02:16] <BlindSIde> any errors in console?
[02:16] <carl_> I hav e2 go back 2 standard KDE to get them 2 come back
[02:17] <dkkong> Is there any way I can use my Lexmark's Scanner Feature under Linux? I see it listed under lsusb, but nothing will work with it software wise.
[02:17] <BlindSIde> what happens if you set something other than emerald as window decorator?
[02:17] <carl_> well, I was reading some help files (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl?highlight=%28beryl%29) and I tried 2 fix using these, but didn't work
[02:21] <luca> hi everyone again
[02:21] <luca> does anyone know how to use kbibtex effectively? which means, being able to add the bibliography INTO the main tex file :)
[02:32] <hendaus> can anyone help me how to open my second hd?
[02:33] <hendaus> dkkong:  how can i open sources.list?
[02:34] <dkkong> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <hendaus> dkkong:  thanks friend, so i have dapper
[02:35] <dkkong> I think edgy, but not sure.
[02:35] <dkkong> DOes it say dapper in the sources list?
[02:35] <hendaus> dkkong:  i have on my desktop the second hd, i open it and cannot show me the files
[02:36] <dkkong> What filesystem is it?
[02:36] <hendaus> dkkong:  yes dapper
[02:36] <dkkong> Then yeah, you're in dapper. Do you know what filesystem is on the hard drive?
[02:36] <khirr> i've updated amsn , and i need tsl files, how can i do it? is there sme command for console to can update that?
[02:36] <hendaus> dkkong:  fat32
[02:37] <dkkong> You should be able to direct mount it then. Create a folder on your desktop called mount
[02:38] <hendaus> dkkong:  ok then
[02:38] <dkkong> now do you know the name of the drive? (ie /dev/hdb1 ,etc?)
[02:39] <hendaus> yes hdb1
[02:39] <dkkong> then go to a console and type  sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home/yourusername/Desktop/mount
[02:39] <dkkong> replace yourusername with whatever you use to login
[02:40] <hendaus> ok
[02:40] <jerware> hi
[02:40] <chad7> i accidentally uninstalled gdm when uninstalling gnomekeys, how do set kdm as the default [whatever this is called] 
[02:40] <jerware> how can i get kolorpaint to return the hex value for a color in the picture?
[02:40] <hendaus> dkkong: bash: /dev/hdb1: Permission denied
[02:40] <dkkong> sudo umount -a
[02:40] <dkkong> then try again
[02:41] <hendaus> dkkong:  it says device is busy
[02:42] <hendaus> dkkong:  and i try another time and got the same thing denied
[02:42] <dkkong> Hmm... then it must think it has it mounted somewhere else
[02:42] <kaboom> i've searched google, but to no avail.
[02:42] <hendaus> dkkong:  i have two hd, one is for kubuntu and the other for files
[02:43] <dkkong> Okay, let's try this. Do sudo kate /etc/fstab and tell me what it says next to hdb1
[02:44] <hakaisou> i have a small question about microphones over alsa
[02:44] <hakaisou> specifically, is there an option to boost the volume?
[02:44] <hendaus> dkkong:  /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
[02:44] <crimsun> hakaisou: if your driver exposes a 'Mic Boost*' element, yes.
[02:44] <hendaus> opps
[02:45] <hakaisou> crud.....
[02:45] <hakaisou> it doesn't......
[02:45] <kubuntu> Hello
[02:45] <crimsun> hakaisou: does `amixer' confirm that?
[02:45] <dkkong> That's hda, but there's no hdb1 in there?
[02:45] <kubuntu> How do I remake my grub stage files ?
[02:45] <hendaus> dkkong:  i cant see hdb1?
[02:45] <kubuntu> I think that they are corrupt
[02:45] <dkkong> Not even in fstab?
[02:46] <masterk> why doesn't it show the pages in konqueror as they are loading instead of after everything for the page has been loaded?
[02:46] <hendaus> dkkong:  no
[02:46] <kubuntu> !grub
[02:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:47] <kubuntu> Can someone help with a grub 1.5 loading non error?
[02:47] <hakaisou> i'm 95% sure that there is no option for it
[02:48] <masterk> what is a good chat program that can use all known protocols? I can't use GAIM because it freezes when I load msn
[02:48] <hakaisou> kopete is good
[02:48] <hakaisou> it's bundled with kubuntu
[02:49] <kubuntu> hakaisou: Sorry?
[02:49] <masterk> but when I use kopete it won't let me have aim chat rooms
[02:49] <kubuntu> oh wait ;)
[02:49] <masterk> or yahoo chat rooms
[02:49] <kubuntu>  braid dead name to have :)
[02:49] <hakaisou> which is why I use Gaim *shrug*
[02:49] <hakaisou> sorry, i'm kinda new to kubuntu myself
[02:50] <masterk> yeah but for some odd reason Gaim freezes upon connection to msn
[02:50] <khirr> what's the command to delete one file?
[02:50] <hakaisou> ok that sounds familiar
[02:50] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[02:50] <hakaisou> get the latest version via apt-get masterk
[02:50] <hakaisou> sudo apt-get install gaim
[02:51] <RawSewage> hendaus, did you try rebooting
[02:51] <hendaus> RawSewage:  no
[02:51] <RawSewage> try that first
[02:52] <hendaus> ok
[02:52] <hendaus> brb
[02:52] <kubuntu> Any one have any idea how to recreate stage files for grub?
[02:55] <masterk> which protocol is for google on gaim?
[02:56] <kubuntu> jabber
[02:56] <masterk> server? O.o
[02:56] <hendaus> back
[02:56] <kubuntu> talk.google.com
[02:56] <hendaus> RawSewage:  when i open the hd , mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:57] <luca> ah probably something wrong with those files
[02:58] <luca> myself I'd recommend using automatix to make it do the harsh work ;)
[02:58] <K-Ryan> Hey guys when I open a music file/playlist in Amarok it adds on to the current playlist instead of opening just that single file or playlist, how do I fix it?
[03:00] <RawSewage> hendaus, I dont know
[03:00] <hendaus> ok thanx
[03:01] <masterk> it said it couldn't connect to the server for google talk using gaim
[03:02] <masterk> am I supposed to leave resourse as Gaim
[03:02] <kubuntu> masterk: Make that whatever you like
[03:03] <masterk> well it says it couldn't connect kubuntu
[03:03] <kubuntu> Does anyone know how to recreate stage files in grub/
[03:03] <kubuntu> masterk: You checked use TLS ?
[03:03] <masterk> yes
[03:04] <kubuntu> and changed teh server to talk.google.com ?
[03:04] <masterk> yes
[03:05] <kubuntu> http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[03:06] <sl00> Hi. When I run the Adept Updater or Adept MAnager it says the database is locked even tho I just booted up. How do I fix this?
[03:06] <kubuntu> !adept crash fix
[03:06] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:08] <sl00> Thanks
[03:17] <brian_> hello
[03:18] <brian_> chatsdead
[03:19] <brian_> super dead
[03:20] <kubuntu> :-)
[03:21] <kubuntu> brian_: You have a question?
[03:21] <brian_> wish i knew why my wifi wasnt reliable
[03:22] <kubuntu> What do you mean?
[03:22] <brian_> it wont connect when it starts up i have to toy with it for about half hour before it works
[03:22] <brian_> worked perfect with ubuntu...then i switched to kubuntu and now its unreliable
[03:24] <Zeelot> hello guys
[03:24] <brian_> hey
[03:26] <brian_> have a question zeelot
[03:26] <Zeelot> yes just a sec =P
[03:27] <Zeelot> I have kubuntu feisty installed and it seems slowish compared to windows when running apps, video smoothness, etc...I know linux is alot easier to customize and optimize...so is there anything I can do for this?
[03:28] <Zeelot> or should I expect linux+GUI candy to always be slowish?
[03:28] <fivetwentysix> What's easier to learn? C or C++, or what wouldyou recommend?
[03:28] <Zeelot> both? =P
[03:29] <Alonea> anyone manage to get sound working in PySol?
[03:29] <Zeelot> once you know C, C++ isn't too hard to pickup (once you know any programming language all the others are alot easier to pick up)
[03:29] <brian_> whats pysol
[03:29] <Zeelot> most of the time atleast
[03:31] <K-Ryan> Wow the chat is pretty quiet
[03:31] <brian_> yah
[03:31] <Zeelot> brian_: no answer to my q? =(
[03:32] <sushubh> hey people!
[03:32] <K-Ryan> Zeelot what are you system specs?
[03:32] <fivetwentysix> Zeelot i know php but i think c++ is just insane to learn
[03:32] <Zeelot> does compiling your own kernel help performance? and is it fairly easy?
[03:32] <brian_> whats slow zeelot
[03:32] <K-Ryan> Hey sushubh!
[03:32] <sushubh> i love ubuntu :D
[03:32] <K-Ryan> Zeelot, no and no.
[03:32] <Alonea> brian_: PySol is a solitaire game suite written in Python.
[03:32] <Zeelot> Sysinfo for 'zeelot-workstation': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ at 2000 MHz (4023 bogomips), HD: 973/1522GB, RAM: 1975/2027MB, 131 proc's, 1.23d up
[03:32] <brian_> i just found that
[03:33] <sushubh> 1522GB :o
[03:33] <Zeelot> I have other systems though with lower specs that I would like to speed up
[03:33] <Zeelot> yea =P
[03:33] <K-Ryan> I'm thinking 973 are full?
[03:33] <sushubh> 1.5 TB :O
[03:33] <sushubh> o m f g
[03:33] <K-Ryan> If I had that much space I wouldn't be able to fill it
[03:33] <Zeelot> i have more drives but they are IDE and dont feel like putting them in
[03:33] <K-Ryan> I haven't filled my 160GB yet...
[03:33] <Alonea> anyway. There is a PySol sound server thing and a pack of music and sounds, but when I go to turn on sound in the program, the sound box is greyed out
[03:33] <K-Ryan> Anyway...
[03:34] <K-Ryan> Any programs in particular that slow it down?
[03:34] <Zeelot> no everything is just slowish
[03:34] <Zeelot> any program takes long to start
[03:34] <fivetwentysix> What do i install if i havea 7600 GT geforce card?
[03:34] <K-Ryan> !nvidia
[03:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:34] <Zeelot> even file browsers and whatnot
[03:34] <fivetwentysix> I installed a driver and had to reinstall ubuntu
[03:34] <fivetwentysix> lol
[03:34] <tsukasa> sorry for a stupid question, i am very new to linux (wabout 1 week today) and i am trying to find something better than wine, i hear crossover, but it still gives me problems.. any ideas for something better? or maybe a channel/server i can connect to that would help?
[03:34] <K-Ryan> fivetwentysix you can start there but it's not very descriptive
[03:35] <K-Ryan> tsukasa this is a good channel for it
[03:35] <tsukasa> okay good to know
[03:35] <Zeelot> if I drag windows I can see them lag, bunch of little annoying things
[03:35] <K-Ryan> Zeelot, was it always like that?
[03:35] <Zeelot> any linux I try yes
[03:35] <Zeelot> gnome and kde atleast
[03:35] <K-Ryan> My system specs are a good half of yours and I don't get that.
[03:36] <K-Ryan> So I don't know if you would be able to optimize that
[03:36] <Zeelot> hmm
[03:36] <K-Ryan> But you said it works in Windows..
[03:36] <Zeelot> even fresh installs?
[03:36] <K-Ryan> Have you tried it?
[03:36] <Zeelot> tried what
[03:36] <K-Ryan> Fresh install
[03:36] <Zeelot> Im comparing performance windows vs linux+GUI
[03:36] <Zeelot> yes this is like a few days old
[03:36] <Zeelot> out of the box its alot slower than windows
[03:36] <K-Ryan> And it's been that way since the install...
[03:37] <K-Ryan> What about when you run the Live CD?
[03:37] <Zeelot> nvidia drivers helped with the gi stuff
[03:37] <Zeelot> same yea
[03:37] <K-Ryan> Then it's not an install thing.
[03:37] <K-Ryan> Unless the CD's you got/burned are erroneous.
[03:37] <Zeelot> any Linux distro is like this
[03:38] <K-Ryan> Sounds like a hardware thing.
[03:38] <Zeelot> windows is just alot faster
[03:38] <bUzz-iN> i"m having problems with, system sound & audio programs ?
[03:38] <Zeelot> multiple computers
[03:38] <bUzz-iN> running in Kubuntu
[03:38] <K-Ryan> bUzz-iN: Are you having trouble? You were asking a question =P
[03:38] <bUzz-iN> i was
[03:38] <K-Ryan> Yes you put a "?" at the end, regardless
[03:39] <bUzz-iN> ummm, ok
[03:39] <K-Ryan> What kind of problem? Sound in general, or playing mp3 files and the like?
[03:39] <bUzz-iN> is a a driver i'm missing etc ?
[03:39] <bUzz-iN> system sound etc yes
[03:39] <K-Ryan> Zeelot: stick around and ask around. I'm not sure about what you could do to fix that and I'm out of ideas. Good luck though
[03:40] <Zeelot> alright
[03:40] <K-Ryan> bUzz-iN: You don't hear any sounds, right?
[03:40] <bUzz-iN> true
[03:40] <Zeelot> I'll ask again tomorrow heh
[03:40] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[03:40] <bUzz-iN> nothing
[03:40] <K-Ryan> It's worth a shot Zeelot
[03:40] <K-Ryan> !audio
[03:40] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:40] <Zeelot> I need someone that uses windows and linux
[03:40] <K-Ryan> =P
[03:40] <Zeelot> >_<
[03:40] <Zeelot> dual boot?
[03:40] <K-Ryan> Kubuntu + XP Home Edition
[03:41] <Zeelot> you don't think xp is just more responsive?
[03:41] <K-Ryan> Nah
[03:41] <K-Ryan> bUzz-iN: Try the first thing that ubotu said, if that doesn't work check the links.
[03:42] <fivetwentysix> I use xp and kubuntu
[03:42] <Zeelot> takes me 3-4 seconds to open konqueror to /home
[03:42] <K-Ryan> Takes me 1-2
[03:42] <bUzz-iN> yes, i have & i'll view those links thanks i hope that works
[03:42] <fivetwentysix> takes me .8
[03:42] <masterk> how do I get a decoder for wma files for amarok?
[03:42] <Zeelot> hmm
[03:42] <K-Ryan> If not come back here bUzz-iN and ask.
[03:42] <Zeelot> wtf then
[03:42] <fivetwentysix> AMD 64 3000 2gb ram
[03:42] <bUzz-iN> i wi;ll thank you
[03:42] <fivetwentysix> pci express 7600gt
[03:43] <K-Ryan> Yeah, rub it in fivetwentysix
[03:43] <Zeelot> 64bit kubuntu?
[03:43] <fivetwentysix> hmm my pc is like $500 or less now
[03:43] <K-Ryan> Sitting here on a 6 year old Pentium 4, had to upgrade to 512 RAM...
[03:43] <K-Ryan> I'm probably going to save my money up for a new computer though.
[03:43] <masterk> so I have a pentium 3 thinkpad
[03:44] <fivetwentysix> OK i installed the driver
[03:44] <bUzz-iN> thx's, Ubotu & K-Ryan
[03:44] <fivetwentysix> for nvidia
[03:44] <fivetwentysix> I pray this works
[03:44] <K-Ryan> Do you think I'd be able to get them to not include Vista so I could save the 100-200 bucks?
[03:44] <fivetwentysix> cuz if it doesn't ima have to reinstall ubuntu again loool
[03:44] <masterk> !amarok decoder
[03:44] <K-Ryan> bUzz-iN: Ubotu is an information bot
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok decoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <fivetwentysix> or can is there a disable command?
[03:44] <fivetwentysix> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:44] <tsukasa> K-ryan: been haveing a issue with wine, mostly with a game, starcraft. it installs and all that, but i need to run it in a window, if it opens in fullscreen it pretty much gets croped off with my task bars, also no sound. winehq says it workes perfect on the other hand.. useing kubuntu btw
[03:44] <bUzz-iN> sweet
[03:44] <fivetwentysix> if the driver doesn't work can i do sudo nvidia-glx-config disable
[03:44] <fivetwentysix> ?
[03:45] <bUzz-iN> also i have a nvidia 8800 series card so maybe that's the problem
[03:45] <bUzz-iN> as i still can't find a driver for that
[03:45] <tsukasa> it does the same thing useing crossover
[03:45] <K-Ryan> tsukasa: I have yet to install/play starcraft but I'll do that maybe...
[03:45] <Zeelot> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable didnt work for me I had to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:45] <fivetwentysix> buzz-in nvidia just released the drivers for it
[03:45] <K-Ryan> tsukasa I don't know about running it windowed, however you should be able to optimize it to not get cut off.
[03:45] <fivetwentysix> well according to their website
[03:45] <bUzz-iN> damn really where at ?
[03:45] <bUzz-iN> nvidia,com ?
[03:46] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[03:46] <bUzz-iN> wooo-ho
[03:46] <tsukasa> K-Ryan: ah okay, thanks though. how do i go about doing that, or atleast start doing that?
[03:46] <K-Ryan> Well it's http://www.amd.nvidia.com
[03:46] <K-Ryan> I'm pretty sure
[03:46] <bUzz-iN> i'll go check that out thx :0
[03:46] <fivetwentysix> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[03:46] <fivetwentysix> I see 8800 there
[03:46] <Zeelot> amd is ati
[03:46] <K-Ryan> Oh, mixed it up.
[03:46] <K-Ryan> Ignore my last link then =)
[03:46] <Zeelot> yup
[03:46] <K-Ryan> tsukasa: To be honest I'm not sure, I'm new to Wine myself.
[03:47] <K-Ryan> However, stick around in the channel I'm sure someone has had your problem and/or knows how to fix it.
[03:47] <tsukasa> K-Ryan: aah okay, thanks anyways. I'll do that
[03:47] <fivetwentysix> OK here it goes
[03:47] <fivetwentysix> restarting X
[03:47] <K-Ryan> tsukasa: Sorry I couldn't help more =P
[03:47] <K-Ryan> I'll install Starcraft now though to see if it happens to me too.
[03:48] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: Hell it's about time
[03:48] <tsukasa> K-Ryan: its all good :p  i gotta learn somehow. i compleatly got ride of windows and have been teaching myself kubuntu sense... no turning back now.
[03:48] <K-Ryan> DaSkreech: I'm not as big of a Starcraft player as I was
[03:48] <bUzz-iN> has anyone here been able to play, "openarena" ?
[03:49] <K-Ryan> The free version of quake.
[03:49] <tsukasa> I'm not going to lie though, i'm getting a seperat install fro windows just for starcraft 2 :p
[03:49] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: Pulling the heck out of gametrailers.com now for all the new gameplay movies
[03:49] <K-Ryan> I've been trying to get my quake working but I haven't really been trying.
[03:49] <K-Ryan> I heard there are installers for quake. Not sure if it would work with openarena, loki installers I think.
[03:50] <bUzz-iN> i think the new quake4 has a linux disc
[03:50] <K-Ryan> Here
[03:50] <K-Ryan> !quake
[03:50] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under Ubuntu - See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[03:50] <K-Ryan> It does =P
[03:50] <bUzz-iN> no no , the open souse game, "openarena"
[03:50] <K-Ryan> tsukasa: Starcraft 2?
[03:50] <bUzz-iN> r*
[03:50] <Zeelot> wow
[03:50] <Alonea> i would love to run Quake 4 on here...but I have ati card and I can't run anything but my gl screensavers.
[03:50] <K-Ryan> bUzz-iN: Sorry, I've only heard of the free version of quake.
[03:50] <Zeelot> I didn't think any of the new games ran in linux
[03:51] <bUzz-iN> hmmmm
[03:51] <tsukasa> K-ryan: yea, they just annonced it after 10 years sense the first one.  www.blizzard.com
[03:51] <K-Ryan> Are you kidding me?
[03:51] <K-Ryan> That's so awesome
[03:51] <tsukasa> no, thats the same thing i asked my friend
[03:51] <tsukasa> they WERE going to release a gameplay video today
[03:51] <K-Ryan> Yeah, "were" figures
[03:51] <Zeelot> bah so no diablo 3 yet =(
[03:52] <bUzz-iN> ? does anyone know if "doom3" can be played in Linux
[03:52] <GWillakers> anyone here use GTKPOD?  I'm having trouble organizing my playlists.
[03:52] <K-Ryan> Don't count your chickens though
[03:52] <K-Ryan> Or whatever the saying is
[03:52] <Zeelot> sc2 will be just as fun though...as long as its not another damn warcraft I'm happy
[03:52] <bUzz-iN> i have heard that id games runn in Linux ?
[03:52] <K-Ryan> Did Starcraft: Ghost ever get released?
[03:52] <tsukasa> no, they scraped that one
[03:52] <K-Ryan> bUzz-iN: The Quakes do, I don't know about Doom though
[03:52] <K-Ryan> tsukasa: Oh they finally did? It looked like it would of been fun...
[03:53] <bUzz-iN> thats cool i'd love to runn quake with out a codewever etc here .
[03:53] <K-Ryan> Still think it's fixed view?
[03:53] <bUzz-iN> or wine
[03:53] <brian_> back
[03:53] <tsukasa> K-Ryan: hey scghost got scraped a long time ago, almost a year. but apparently sc2 has been in the works sense the start of WoW.
[03:53] <K-Ryan> Welcome back
[03:53] <K-Ryan> tsukasa: I never really followed it, I saw it here and there and then I just never saw it again.
[03:54] <brian_> got linux figured out now if i could get my winserver fixed
[03:54] <bUzz-iN> ok, i'm off to read up on my system sound issues, late
[03:54] <K-Ryan> Yeah it's definitely not fixed camera, you can tell by the angles in the screen shots.
[03:54] <K-Ryan> Good luck bUzz-iN
[03:54] <bUzz-iN> thx-
[03:55] <tsukasa> K-Ryan: i followed it for a small bit, i had been playing starcraft sense day one, one of my fav games ever. so i was pretty pissed when they scraped ghost. but now i am glade they scraped it.
[03:55] <K-Ryan> tsukasa: It just finished installing.
[03:56] <tsukasa> K-ryan: sweet, good luck cause it would log me out and restart me the first time i installed.
[03:56] <K-Ryan> tsukasa: I'm going to try it out I'll brb in a few. On a side note, I was a late entry to Starcraft. But it's definitely one of the greatest games ever made.
[03:56] <K-Ryan> Alright, here I go
[03:58] <K-Ryan> Yeah umm, I don't think I'd be able to play on Battlenet.
[03:58] <tsukasa> bnet is said to not be compatable with linux
[03:58] <K-Ryan> I tried to update it, but the archive couldn't be opened so I'm assuming it has to be done manually somehow and I can't be bothered to do that.
[03:59] <tsukasa> go to the website and dl the update patchs
[03:59] <K-Ryan> Compatable with Linux probably not, but it's in Wine so..
[03:59] <K-Ryan> I have to go in a minute so tomorrow.
[03:59] <K-Ryan> But the main menu was a tad laggy.
[03:59] <K-Ryan> So I'm curious how it's going to play out.
[03:59] <K-Ryan> But I'm out for the night, bye guys.
[04:00] <K-Ryan> May all your problems be solved ;)
[04:00] <tsukasa> i have it in wine and crossover, neither one worked properly for me, lags like all hell, no sound and croped screen.
[04:01] <Alonea> i stopped trying to get games to work in linux on wine...too frustrating.
[04:01] <Lilacor> does anyone know how to get nvidia drivers to save its resolution?
[04:02] <geoff__> eh...
[04:02] <tsukasa> i cant remember, but i do know i did a search on it in google, fround some repositories for nvidia, now they work perfectly, you will know it works when you are booting up and a nvidia splash shows up at least for me
[04:02] <Lilacor> my nvidia drivers aren't broken.. I'm using the nvidia driver right now but I have to change the resolution everytime I reboot
[04:03] <tsukasa> wow that weird
[04:04] <tsukasa> i had problems when the driver was the nv drivers that came with kubu
[04:04] <trix`G> quick question, I have a *.zix archive (that's ziX not zip) that I need to extract, but when searching for a program or utility to extract it all I can find is winzix, which is a windows program... anyone know a linux utility that can extract .zix files?
[04:04] <dwidmann> lilacor: when you run nvidia-settings (presuming you do so), do you run it as root (ie: with kdesu or sudo), or without, also, do you just click apply, or dod you click save settings to file or whatnot
[04:04] <asdf> im about to smash konversation
[04:05] <Lilacor> I have run it under a root shell and I apply the settings and then try to save it to my xorg.conf
[04:05] <Lilacor> and it won't save...
[04:05] <dwidmann> It won't? Well, that explains why you have to redo it every time
[04:06] <Lilacor> dwidmann: yes but the reason why it won't save escapes me
[04:06] <dwidmann> Does it say why it won't save Lilacor?
[04:06] <dwidmann> Lilacor: hit alt+f2 and type in "kdesu nvidia-settings"
[04:07] <dwidmann> (just-in-case)
[04:07] <trix`G> worst case scenario just edit the xorg config file manually and set your preferred resolution as default
[04:07] <geoff__> so, why can i not log in as root on kubuntu?
[04:07] <geoff__> what's up with that?
[04:07] <geoff__> it never prompted to set the root password.
[04:07] <geoff__> i can't even boot into runlevel 1
[04:07] <geoff__> to change it.
[04:07] <Lilacor> geoff__: there is no root
[04:07] <geoff__> wtf
[04:07] <dwidmann> geoff__: root account is locked,
[04:07] <geoff__> heh
[04:07] <geoff__> that's not cool
[04:07] <Hirvinen> !root | geoff__
[04:07] <ubotu> geoff__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:08] <dwidmann> geoff__: sudo is used _in stead_ of su
[04:08] <trix`G> geoff: three reasons, one: completely unnecessary, two: dangerous, and three: you still can, just "sudo /bin/bash" in console
[04:08] <geoff__> dude...
[04:08] <Lilacor> dwidmann: it says....ERROR: Failed to generate an X config file!
[04:08] <Lilacor> dwidmann: among many other things
[04:08] <geoff__> i work in a datacenter for a server hosting company
[04:08] <geoff__> i build and set up servers
[04:08] <geoff__> i know what sudo is
[04:08] <dwidmann> Lilacor: can you pastebin your xorg.conf file, oh, and the error message too
[04:08] <trix`G> so "sudo /bin/bash" and poof you are root
[04:08] <geoff__> trixG
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> geoff__: if you really want, it is possible to enable the root acct
[04:08] <dwidmann> trix`G: "sudo -s" ??
[04:08] <Lilacor> geoff__: or just 'sudo -s'
[04:08] <Sleepy_Coder> Er....
[04:08] <geoff__> when i booted the kernel i set init=/bin/sh
[04:08] <geoff__> to change it
[04:09] <geoff__> and it's "refused"
[04:09] <Sleepy_Coder> su ftw. :P
[04:09] <trix`G> yeah taht works too
[04:09] <geoff__> which is stupid
[04:09] <DaSkreech> What's the deal with the flash plugin?
[04:09] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: free food on tuesdays, duh.
[04:09] <geoff__> eh, i'll just go back to freebsd
[04:09] <geoff__> heh
[04:09] <BWOlf85> daskreech what do u mean
[04:09] <DaSkreech> freefood?
[04:09] <trix`G> geoff: then re-enable the root account and set the password with "passwd"
[04:09] <trix`G> it's east
[04:09] <dwidmann> geoff__: the setup isn't hard to change
[04:09] <Sleepy_Coder> [19:09:08]  <DaSkreech> What's the deal with the flash plugin?  <--wishing they had a 64 bit version also?
[04:09] <Alonea> ok, I downloaded a source file and I don't get how to install this one...there is no make file. Just a bunch of python files. How do I install it?
[04:09] <trix`G> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:09] <trix`G> that tells you how
[04:09] <geoff__> i'm checking out ubuntu
[04:09] <geoff__> or kubuntu
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Sleepy_Coder: Nope
[04:10] <Lilacor> wow, I wish they had a x64 version also
[04:10] <BWOlf85> i like kubuntu better
[04:10] <geoff__> and i wasn't happy with the no root login
[04:10] <dwidmann> "sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Sleepy_Coder: Jsut an Open source one
[04:10] <tsukasa> woo to Kubu
[04:10] <Sleepy_Coder> hehehe
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Hi Alonea
[04:10] <BWOlf85> KDE is much more fun
[04:10] <Alonea> DaSkreech: hey. how are ya?
[04:10] <Sleepy_Coder> The only complaints I've heard is that people are using the 32 bit version because they don't have one for their dual processors.
[04:10] <trix`G> anyone know how to extract a *.zix archive in linux?  (zix, not zip)
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: python is interperted lang, just python <name of main file>
[04:10] <geoff__> trixG re-enable the root account?
[04:10] <geoff__> heh
[04:10] <geoff__> where?  how?
[04:10] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok, will try that
[04:10] <geoff__> i don't see anything like that
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Alonea: terrible how are you ?
[04:10] <geoff__> so tell me
[04:11] <dwidmann> geoff__: the last thing I said will do it
[04:11] <trix`G> geoff: "sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"
[04:11] <tsukasa> if .zix is a windows only, try installing that into wine and then opening the formate with that.
[04:11] <trix`G> which is what dwidmann said
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> geoff__: set a root passwd is all you need to do
[04:11] <dwidmann> yes, that
[04:11] <tsukasa> if wine will work that is...
[04:11] <geoff__> dwidmann
[04:11] <Jucato> geoff__: there's a guide in that RootSudo page
[04:11] <geoff__> i didn't see what you said.
[04:11] <bUzz-iN> ok, how do i become "root' in console to dl nvidia driver ??
[04:11] <bUzz-iN> shell
[04:11] <Lilacor> bUzz-iN: 'sudo -s'
[04:12] <bUzz-iN> nvidia-installer must be run as root
[04:12] <Alonea> DaSkreech: well, I am finally among the working...I guess that can be considered good
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Where are you working? :)
[04:12] <geoff__> dwidmann... i missed what you said i guess
[04:12] <geoff__> repeat.
[04:12] <dwidmann> geoff__: sorry then, maybe I forgot to highlight it for you :P
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> bUzz-iN: try downloading the driver from the repos, works better
[04:12] <trix`G> tsukasa: I can fall back on that if necessary but I was really hoping there's a linux utility out there somewhere to extract zix archives.
[04:12] <bUzz-iN> this is the file i have to load, but get that error...
[04:12] <bUzz-iN> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[04:13] <geoff__> ?
[04:13] <trix`G> geoff: "sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"
[04:13] <Alonea> DaSkreech: on campus in the Career Services department. Clerical stuff mostly
[04:13] <trix`G> which is what dwidmann said
[04:13] <dwidmann> bUzz-iN: any reason you're doing it the hard way? why not just "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[04:13] <bUzz-iN> repos?hitmanWilly
[04:13] <dwidmann> bUzz-iN: it's in multiverse
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> bUzz-iN: with apt...ie sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:13] <geoff__> sudo apt-get install yum
[04:13] <dwidmann> bUzz-iN: the package is nvidia-glx-new
[04:14] <tsukasa> Trix`G: there may be, the way i tend to find things is looking up the formates in add/remove  or maybe google,  put the formate in the search with the work linux or what ever distro you are useing.
[04:14] <geoff__> yum -y update
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Working in Career... oh the irony
[04:14] <bUzz-iN> hmmm
[04:14] <geoff__> dwidmann:  still waiting on what you said.
[04:14] <Lilacor> dwidmann: wait a section...aren't I supposed to use nvidia-glx instead?
[04:14] <dwidmann> geoff__: oh?
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Hi Jucato
[04:14] <Lilacor> second
[04:14] <Lilacor> dOh!
[04:14] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[04:14] <trix`G> tsukasa: I've already been trying google for the last hour and a half, and Add Remove (Adept) was the first thing I tried
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Jucato: How goes?
[04:14] <Jucato> doing ok. :)
[04:14] <Alonea> DaSkreech: indeed. Seeing how they do this job finder thing at college central, which is where I found the job in the first place
[04:15] <dwidmann> Lilacor: as far as I can tell, nvidia-glx is the 1.0-9639, and nvidia-glx-new is 1.0-9755
[04:15] <geoff__> dwidmann please advise.
[04:15] <trix`G> ahh well wine will have to do I guess, or if not i'll extract it on my roomate's computer and copy it over
[04:15] <bUzz-iN> so, sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-new   ????
[04:15] <sparr> firefox and thunderbird use a different mouse cursor theme than all my other applications.  help?
[04:15] <dwidmann> 1.0-9639 is now the legacy driver, 1.0-7xxx is the old legacy
[04:15] <dwidmann> geoff__: on?
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> bUzz-iN: unless you have a legacy card
[04:15] <geoff__> enabling root account.
[04:16] <bUzz-iN> not sure ?
[04:16] <BWOlf85> sparr should just use your default ones...never seen them use anything special
[04:16] <dwidmann> bUzz-iN: lspci | grep VGA
[04:16] <sparr> BWOlf85: they DO use my default ones.  but im not using the default anywhere else.
[04:16] <geoff__> dwidmann ..... ?
[04:16] <trix`G> sparr: mind if I /msg you? (about an unrelated matter)
[04:17] <dwidmann> geoff__: what do you want to be advised on?
[04:17] <geoff__> dude
[04:17] <geoff__> i just told you
[04:17] <geoff__> enabling root account.
[04:17] <geoff__> enabling root account.
[04:17] <geoff__> enabling root account.
[04:17] <geoff__> enabling root account.
[04:17] <geoff__> enabling root account.
[04:17] <geoff__> enabling root account.
[04:17] <BWOlf85> woah
[04:17] <trix`G> geoff: "sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"
[04:17] <trix`G> geoff: "sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"
[04:17] <sparr> trix`G: yes
[04:17] <trix`G> for the last friggin time
[04:17] <geoff__> DUDE
[04:17] <tsukasa> Trix`G: try install synaptic packate installer and then search from inside there. thats a really good bet. and with google, find some multiverse or other repositors and add them to the list.
[04:17] <geoff__> that does NOT work
[04:17] <dwidmann> geoff__: you asked how to reenable the root account, we already said that all you have to do is sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root"
[04:17] <trix`G> can you be more specific?
[04:17] <sparr> geoff__: good.  you dont need a root account.  we are glad that it doesnt work.
[04:17] <dwidmann> geoff__: It should ...
[04:17] <geoff__> *sigh*
[04:18] <Jucato> geoff__: do not flood please
[04:18] <bUzz-iN> well that did something
[04:18] <bUzz-iN> :0
[04:18] <Qnoy> gggggggggggg
[04:18] <dwidmann> passwd -u root = unlock the root account, passwd root = set the root password
[04:18] <sparr> geoff__: perhaps if you were more specific than "that does NOT work" we might get somewhere
[04:18] <DaSkreech> !pastebin
[04:18] <bUzz-iN> where did that code come from
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[04:18] <geoff__> i think i'm in chat with people who know nothing about linux.  i swear to god.
[04:18] <jack_> I can't seem to remember how to allow sshfs to let me have permission to view the mounted share
[04:18] <Jucato> wow that was nice
[04:19] <Fivetwentysix> OKay i give up
[04:19] <Fivetwentysix> these nvidia drivers hate me
[04:19] <dwidmann> geoff__: please be nice, I'm almost out of mountain dew, and I've been up for 19 hours. I'm a tad sleepy
[04:19] <Lilacor> ewww
[04:19] <trix`G> dwidmann: he already left
[04:19] <Jucato> dwidmann: too late :)
[04:19] <BWOlf85> dwindmann he left
[04:19] <BWOlf85> oops
[04:19] <dwidmann> Good riddance
[04:19] <Lilacor> dwidmann: that guy was an asshole
[04:19] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, put the coffee pot on :)
[04:19] <Lilacor> a very POMPOUS asshole at that
[04:20] <Alonea> DaSkreech: sorry things have not been well for you. Hope things get better!
[04:20] <trix`G> people need to learn to be patient
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Alonea: They will after dinner
[04:20] <trix`G> well that and he seemed to think it's our job to get his problem fixed or something
[04:20] <Alonea> DaSkreech: food makes everything better
[04:20] <Jucato> Lilacor: language please
[04:20] <DaSkreech> anyone installed flashplugin nonfree recently?
[04:20] <rollerskatejamms> Does anybody know how to add users to a group? I put the users on the proper line in /etc/group and it does nothing
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Believe it!
[04:20] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: seeing as I've already gone through five cans of mountain dew and a pot of tea, I guess the pot of coffee would be the next logical step, thanks for the plan
[04:20] <geoff__> so tell me dwidmann
[04:20] <geoff__> why did that not work?
[04:20] <geoff__> why can i not log in as root still?
[04:20] <Alonea> DaSkreech: damn...now I think I am hungry again...
[04:20] <geoff__> with the command that YOU gave me
[04:21] <geoff__> that is supposed to work?
[04:21] <dwidmann> geoff__: should be able to ...
[04:21] <geoff__> nope.
[04:21] <Jucato> geoff__: you are trying to login graphically as root?
[04:21] <dwidmann> try seperating it into two statements
[04:21] <geoff__> YES
[04:21] <trix`G> haha
[04:21] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: Hear hear!
[04:21] <dwidmann> geoff: sudo passwd -u root; sudo passwd root
[04:21] <trix`G> ok
[04:21] <geoff__> no
[04:21] <BluesKaj> hehe, was just kidding dwidmann , we all have to sleep sometime , after 19hrs ...it's time :)
[04:21] <geoff__> does not work.
[04:21] <Jucato> !root | geoff__
[04:21] <ubotu> geoff__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:21] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: lies. Sleep is for the weak
[04:21] <Jucato> geoff__: that page has instructions on how to do that
[04:21] <geoff__> jucato ...... shhhhhh.......
[04:22] <DaSkreech> Is the Flashplugin not verified by the apt system?
[04:22] <Jucato> DaSkreech: what do you mean "not verified"?
[04:22] <geoff__> god just forget it.... no linux knowing people
[04:22] <Cface> How do i know which driver to install for my Sound card?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  flashplugin-nonfree Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?
[04:22] <Jucato> hm... strange
[04:23] <jordo23> Why does ARK always fail to open my .tat.gz archives? Is there something that I need?
[04:23] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: last I heard, the flash package was just a script to download flash from adobes site and set it up, I've never tried it though so I wouldn't know (said convenient package/script isn't in the amd64 repo)
[04:23] <rollerskatejamms> Does anybody know what the file "/etc/group-" is for. NOT /etc/group
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: apt-key issues sounds like
[04:23] <Jucato> DaSkreech: better ask in #ubuntu-motu or ping crimsun
[04:23] <DaSkreech> I know
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Ok
[04:23] <rollerskatejamms> Grr
[04:23] <dsmith__> geoff needs to learn to lighting up
[04:24] <Jucato> dwidmann: btw, he was asking how to login graphically as root. but he should  have still read the wiki. which has the exact instructions he needs
[04:24] <dwidmann> geoff needs to get a life, or better yet, find someone else to harass
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> i just can't figure out why he would need to log in graphically as root...makes no sense
[04:24] <Jucato> actualy, he just needs to learn how to read
[04:24] <dsmith__> dont need root
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> since the normal ubu acct is root jr. anyway
[04:25] <Jucato> but yeah. no need to login graphically as root at all
[04:25] <dwidmann> root jr?
[04:25] <Jucato> sudoer
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> sudo enabled
[04:25] <BluesKaj> bedtime for me ..nite all
[04:25] <dwidmann> Jucato: nothing su -c can't handle eh?
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> do root stuff w/out a root password
[04:26] <dwidmann> ah, true enough
[04:26] <Lilacor> what a freakin' tool
[04:27] <BWOlf85> you get over it hitman lol
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> i still think its a gaping security hole...
[04:28] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: maybe so
[04:28] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: still, better than nothing, or negative something (aka windows)
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:29] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: how is it a hole?
[04:29] <trix`G> hitmanWilly: easy to fix, just set a root password.
[04:29] <dwidmann> requiring regular programs to run as root, practically a walk-in invitation...
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> one of the first things i did
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> at least on the laptop...the one that runs kubuntu
[04:30] <dsmith__> Caution: Sudo command invoked... Cancel or Allow?
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> roflmao
[04:30] <trix`G> lol when I first switched to kubuntu I set a root password and enabled the root account, because I was used to having one, now, months later, I realize that I haven't actually logged in as root once since I enabled it, I've grown used to sudo or sudo /bin/bash
[04:31] <dsmith__> :P
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> i still su all the time for editing config files and such
[04:31] <Jucato> trix`G: sudo /bin/bash?
[04:31] <trix`G> that's what I 'sudo /bin/bash' for
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It's not supposed to do that
[04:32] <trix`G> jucato: ghetto way of logging root in
[04:32] <Jucato> DaSkreech: hm... strange...
[04:32] <BWOlf85> allow solitare cancel or allow
[04:32] <Jucato> trix`G: you mean like "sudo -i"?
[04:32] <trix`G> yeah
[04:33] <BWOlf85> anyone maybe be able to help me over pm as to why my windows computer wont let the ethernet card install
[04:33] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: yo
[04:33] <trix`G> except i didn't know about that switch when I first thought of sudo /bin/bash
[04:33] <DaSkreech> BWOlf85: try ##windows
[04:33] <dwidmann> !windows
[04:33] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:34] <DaSkreech> how's things in Jamaica ;)
[04:34] <Alonea> damn..I still can't figure out how to get this PySol to work right...I am too used to make, make install. I don't understand what is wrong here...
[04:34] <DaSkreech> !flash
[04:34] <trix`G> BWOlf85: windows? have you tried rebooting a few dozen times during the install?
[04:34] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:34] <BWOlf85> trix it just wont go anywhere
[04:34] <masterk> how do I start group chat in gaim on msn protocol?
[04:34] <kyah2004> waddup
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: are there any shell scripts in the dir?
[04:34] <kyah2004> what do i do next
[04:34] <BWOlf85> just sits there with the files "moving" from one folder to the next
[04:34] <Fivetwentysix> Does gaim even work on KDE?
[04:35] <tsukasa> yes
[04:35] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: you have a strange problem :-)
[04:35] <trix`G> uhm, reboot?  the only thing I really know about windows is that you have to reboot to change anything.  over and over.
[04:35] <masterk> !windows
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[04:35] <dwidmann> Fivetwentysix: of course
[04:35] <kyah2004> so i notice
[04:35] <masterk> lol I love that message
[04:35] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I have to run home. Can You look at kyah2004's problem for me in the interim?
[04:35] <masterk> ubotu you are the best
[04:35] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: nope. all .py or .pyc . For the sound server, there was make files and even a readme. that all worked out ok and when I do python pysol.py, it doesn't complain about the sound server anymore
[04:35] <dwidmann> !bot
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[04:35] <DaSkreech> !bug 1
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[04:35] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:36] <masterk> lol
[04:36] <Jucato> DaSkreech: huh? I'm actually in the middle of studying... what's the problem?
[04:36] <DaSkreech> Jucato: no worries then
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: any error messages? or just won't start?
[04:36] <DaSkreech> Flash won't install
[04:36] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: Got a few minutes ?
[04:37] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: yeah
[04:37] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: kyah2004 is trying to install flash
[04:37] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: there are error messages that confuse me
[04:37] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: and the results are?
[04:37] <DaSkreech>  It seems that apt is pulling the package but after that things get hairy
[04:37] <masterk> kyah2004 did you try installing through adept?
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: can you pastebin them? i know a very little python
[04:37] <DaSkreech>  I have to run home can you look at it for me in the interim
[04:37] <kyah2004> masterk: yeh it crashed
[04:37] <DaSkreech> masterk: nope Command line
[04:37] <masterk> ah
[04:38] <ses1959_> i am looking for the new thunderbird 2.0 in the 64 bit linux but could not find the link.  Does anyone have the link for this please?
[04:38] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ttp://pastebin.ca/499503
[04:38] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: I had him try manually open the tar.gz that apt pulled down and it seemed corrupt
[04:38] <Alonea> http://pastebin.ca/499503
[04:38] <kyah2004> masterk: or better yet it hung in the process, so i am trying command lime now and i am still having some issues
[04:38] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: one minute then, I might as well whip up a little script. If the repository is giving trouble, it'd be easier to do it manually
[04:38] <ses1959_> or is thunderbird only available for 32 at this time
[04:38] <DaSkreech> so he removed it and re did the apt-get install :)
[04:39] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: dwidmann is the ... ummm mann I guess
[04:39] <DaSkreech> I gotta run home
[04:39] <DaSkreech>  listen to him and jam here
[04:39] <masterk> what happens under the command line?
[04:39] <GWillakers> How can I arrange the order of songs in a playlist using GTKPOD?  Not very intuitive if there's a way.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> If you got other questions this is the place to shoot them
[04:39] <kyah2004> alright thanks Daskreech
[04:39] <trix`G> what is the use of /dev/null?
[04:40] <tsukasa> >> anyone know how to get a zune to be detectable in kubu without useing vmware?
[04:40] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: there is also a .gdbinit file in there
[04:40] <kyah2004> alright when i run the command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree it continues and finishes at ok...
[04:41] <dwidmann> Anyone by chance know firefox's default plugin directory?
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: its having problems finding files it needs, you may want to see if there's an install instructions file somewhere
[04:41] <masterk> have you tried downloading the package from adobe then installing using the command prompt?
[04:41] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: will look around some more...
[04:41] <kyah2004> then i have to ctrl-c to get back command prompt
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann: /usr/lib/moziila i think
[04:42] <BWOlf85> i had to do what masterk did
[04:42] <Lilacor> geez, whaddyaknow... I install nvidia-glx-new and then I can save to xorg.conf!
[04:42] <Lilacor> >_<;;;
[04:42] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: /usr/lib/mozilla, or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[04:42] <nixternal> trix`G: /dev/null is used for disposing of unwanted input/output streams
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann: /plugins
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann: i figured you could get that part :)
[04:43] <trpr> i can enable compiz from within kde?
[04:43] <dwidmann> kyah2004: Okay, I've got the script whipped up and ready to go, I guess I'll pastebin it
[04:43] <kyah2004> when i go to adobe the website doesnt load, mainly bcuz i think they have flash on the website that they allow u to download flash
[04:44] <trix`G> nixternal: unwanted input/output streams... I would guess you would simply stream them directly to it (so it's like a black hole in the computer?) but what would be an unwanted input/output stream?  I mean could you provide an example?
[04:44] <kyah2004> alrighht thanks dwidmann
[04:44] <trix`G> oh and thank you nixternal
[04:44] <dwidmann> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21777/ kyah2004
[04:44] <nixternal> dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null > Packages
[04:44] <nixternal> trix`G: yes you are correct about the "black hole"
[04:46] <Coldwar55> Question, I'm getting a "slight jerkiness" when I play DVDs in Kaffine which never happened before
[04:46] <Coldwar55> Any reason why that would happen?
[04:46] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: maybe dma decided to disable itself
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> Coldwar55: dma probly
[04:46] <Coldwar55> How woudl I check that?
[04:46] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hd*
[04:46] <trix`G> nixternal: thanks!
[04:47] <Coldwar55> All on
[04:47] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: do you have postprocessing and deinterlacing settings on? They can be pretty cpu intensive
[04:47] <Coldwar55> I don't belive so
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> Coldwar55: it might just be system resources
[04:47] <Coldwar55> I didn't do anythign to my system
[04:47] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: I guess I will just go back to the one in the repo, even though sound does not work.
[04:48] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: is the system under load?
[04:48] <Coldwar55> 10-20%
[04:48] <Coldwar55> which is wierd
[04:48] <Coldwar55> I only have KvIRC, amarok (Not playing anything) and Kopete open
[04:48] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: weird indeed, what processes are to blame?
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: well, you might be able to simply install the repo version, then compile the sound server seperately
[04:49] <dwidmann> Probably X I reckon ... but I could be wrong
[04:49] <Coldwar55> I think
[04:49] <Coldwar55> When I went to system process
[04:49] <Coldwar55> It has a 10.50% cpu utilization
[04:49] <Coldwar55> which is somethign I don't understand because I did nothing to my system over the past week
[04:49] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: maybe. Thing is, a sound server is listed in the repos, but it doesn't seem to work
[04:49] <Coldwar55> and yesterday I was playing DVDs fine
[04:50] <dwidmann> Hmm, what video driver are you using Coldwar55?, X is taking up rather a bit of CPU
[04:50] <Coldwar55> ATi
[04:50] <Coldwar55> I never had this problem before
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: apt-build the sound server...that compiles from source a la gentoo
[04:50] <Coldwar55> Oh and i Have superkaramba running but that's never beena problem
[04:50] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: Maybe it's just the disk?
[04:50] <dwidmann> !!
[04:50] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: Close superkaramba
[04:50] <Coldwar55> I dont' know
[04:51] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: superkaramba always makes the screen jitter when it repaints, I don't know why, but it does.
[04:52] <BWOlf85> um wow just noticed the time tracker...im scared to use it to see how much time i spend on here
[04:52] <dwidmann> Especially if you have superkaramba open, as well as having a video maximized in kaffeine, you can see it stutter where the applets are positioned
[04:52] <Coldwar55> hmm
[04:52] <Coldwar55> it's odd
[04:52] <Coldwar55> Because theis never happened before
[04:52] <dwidmann> BWOlf85: is that time spent idling or talking?
[04:52] <Coldwar55> How do I renable the the applet?
[04:52] <Coldwar55> on the tray
[04:52] <BWOlf85> time im on the computer
[04:52] <BWOlf85> can time whatever task u want
[04:52] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: erm, well, just restart superkaramba from the menu?
[04:53] <dwidmann> BWOlf85: having fun with the time command?
[04:53] <BWOlf85> yah
[04:53] <dwidmann> BWOlf85: think the last time I used it was when I decided to figure out how l ong it took to rip a DVD ... think it was in the 1.5-2 hour range
[04:54] <BWOlf85> yah
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> about as long as it takes to watch it :)
[04:54] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: w00t! I have sound!
[04:54] <dwidmann> Hmm, my uptime is nowhere near where it usually is ..... oh, that's right, I just resetup Kubuntu the other day :O
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: :) how'd you get it?
[04:55] <dwidmann> I'd turned traitor and installed Debian ;)
[04:55] <dwidmann> which reminds me that I need to grab Debians kernel and install it in feisty ...
[04:55] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: not quite positive if it was because I installed the sound server with apt or if it was from when did it from source. ^^;;
[04:56] <Coldwar55> That's rather annoying
[04:56] <Coldwar55> that worked
[04:56] <Coldwar55> but I never had a problem with Superkaramba running
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: probably one of the two :)
[04:56] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: yhou have now I guess?
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: or a combo
[04:56] <Coldwar55> ??
[04:56] <dwidmann> kyah2004: did it work?
[04:56] <Coldwar55> It works now
[04:56] <Coldwar55> no jerkiness
[04:56] <Coldwar55> But I feel "naked" without superkaramba :/
[04:56] <BWOlf85> so is the true difference between kubuntu and ubuntu the KDE user interface?
[04:56] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: either way, it works now and I am happy for sound. I hate it when features in a program does not work
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> ditto
[04:57] <ejortegau> hi there. any kubuntu / ubuntu mantainers here? i think i found a problem with the dependencies of amarok
[04:57] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: yeah, I know what you mean ... just add an icon for it in your tray, or ready your fingers and use katapult
[04:57] <Coldwar55> errm
[04:57] <Coldwar55> What's katapult do?
[04:57] <dwidmann> ejortegau: odd, I didn't have any problem with it
[04:57] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: hit alt+space, start typing
[04:57] <Coldwar55> adfadf
[04:57] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: you'll see ;)
[04:57] <Coldwar55> nothign?
[04:58] <ejortegau> dwidmann:  well, i just installed 7.04 and amarok would not play radio stations
[04:58] <dwidmann> odd, is it not running? must not be
[04:58] <Coldwar55> nope
[04:58] <Coldwar55> it's not
[04:58] <ejortegau> problem was 2 missing packages
[04:58] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: alt + f2, type katapult
[04:58] <ejortegau> libxine something and other i don't remember.
[04:59] <Coldwar55> o_O
[04:59] <Coldwar55> Whoa that's wierd
[05:00] <dwidmann> ejortegau: what format is the radio stations format in? if it's mp3 keep in mind that kubuntu doesn't ship with mp3 support, so it might be an optional dependency?
[05:00] <ejortegau> mp3
[05:00] <dwidmann> Coldwar55: big-time time saver :)
[05:00] <ejortegau> hm
[05:00] <ejortegau> i didn't know that
[05:00] <ejortegau> why? patent issues?
[05:00] <tsukasa> mp3 i belive runs under sertain license
[05:00] <ejortegau> i see...
[05:00] <tsukasa> as well as encrypted dvd support
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> licensing issues
[05:00] <dwidmann> ejortegau: either patent or copyright or both
[05:01] <ejortegau> that sucks... still, how come other distros do? are they breaking any laws or something?
[05:01] <dwidmann> wait, yeah, it's patent
[05:01] <dwidmann> ejortegau: hard to say, it depends on what country you're in.
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> either they pay the licensing fees, or are based overseas
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> overseas == not US
[05:02] <ejortegau> i see
[05:02] <ejortegau> hm, ok
[05:03] <muaddib> anyone want to help me out with some open-ssh info?
[05:04] <masterk> how do I install a deb package?
[05:04] <ninina> anyone know how I can make firefox my defualt webbrowser for stuff
[05:04] <Jucato> masterk: right-click on the .deb file -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[05:04] <Jucato> ninina: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> masterk: or sudo dpkg -i <pkg_name>
[05:05] <ejortegau> ok, thanks guys, cya
[05:05] <kyah2004> dwidmann: seems like there is an issue downloading from the url u gave me for flash
[05:05] <dwidmann> kyah2004: odd, it worked the other day ...
[05:06] <ninina> Jucato: Thanks I assume other defualts are done the same way?
[05:06] <Lilacor> ninina: still kickin' and not giving up on linux yet I see
[05:06] <dwidmann> kyah2004: that link just go the works-for-me stamp of approval. The link certainly isn't dead.
[05:06] <Lilacor> ninina: that's good
[05:07] <dwidmann> kyah2004: what does wget say when it tries to download it, if there are any errors can you pastebin them for me?
[05:07] <masterk> it seems it didn't install correctly or something
[05:07] <masterk> has anyone here installed frostwire?
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> masterk: probably unmet dependencies
[05:08] <ninina> Lilacor: Meh I always have a few days in me, what will really show is if I'm still here after the newness of beryl wears off and I deside I want to play a video game
[05:08] <masterk> is java already in kubuntu?
[05:08] <kyah2004> dwidmann: there isnt any errors it just sticks at 0% forever with the time moving
[05:08] <dwidmann> masterk: in which case, running it in konsole would probably unmask your problems running it
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> masterk: not by default
[05:08] <dwidmann> kyah2004: that's really weird
[05:08] <Lilacor> ninina: linux isn't made for games...yet
[05:08] <masterk> thats why it didn't run
[05:08] <dwidmann> kyah2004: ctrl + c then re-run the script and see if it works
[05:09] <ninina> Lilacor: that's why I go back to windows...and I tend not to return
[05:09] <kyah2004> cool
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> ninina: that's the last major area for linux to get a foothold in
[05:09] <Lilacor> ninina: oh well..whatever suits you
[05:09] <dwidmann> masterk: there is a jvm included in kubuntu, however, it ain't that great, you'd be better off installing sun's jvm
[05:09] <ninina> Lilacor: so if I do return then I'm sold
[05:10] <kyah2004> dwidmann: should i run the script in  parts or should i copy and paste all of it and run it one time
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> ninina: for games, you might want to look into wine or cedega
[05:10] <dwidmann> kyah2004: faster to do it all at once, but it doesn't really matter
[05:10] <kyah2004> cool
[05:11] <ninina> hitmanWilly: I know, but I find that the game support is massively limited
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> ninina: that's cause game developers don't like spending money to port games over to a system that has such a small market share
[05:14] <kyah2004> dwidmann: i even tried using konquerer and firefox to download from that url and the file just stalls
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> ninina: at least that's how they see it...plus they've spent so much time working with directx they don't want to change over to opengl
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> ninina: with a few notable exceptions
[05:16] <dwidmann> kyah2004: odd, try going to adobe.com , and downloading the file manually from there ... I don't know why the link won't work for you, it works fo rme
[05:16] <kyah2004> oh zeen
[05:17] <ninina> hitmanWilly: I completely understand, I was going to be a game programmer for a while so I know some of the politics, but I need my games in the end...I'm such an adict =(
[05:20] <hakaisou> !startup
[05:20] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[05:21] <hakaisou> bah!
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> ninina: that was my last holdout for windows too :)
[05:21] <hakaisou> same here.
[05:21] <dwidmann> hakaisou: if you need programs runnign when you startup kde, just open whatever you want to have running at startup and go to k-menu-> save session
[05:22] <hakaisou> are you crazy willy?
[05:22] <dwidmann> :
[05:22] <ninina> hitmanWilly: I have a few others, namely Visual Studios...but yeah that is the big one
[05:22] <dwidmann> :O
[05:22] <hakaisou> major games NEVER have linux support
[05:22] <hendaus> i want to update my kubuntu from dapper to fiesty, can anyone help me please
[05:23] <dwidmann> hendaus: best way would be to get the feisty cd, and do a reinstall
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> ut has always been linux capable
[05:23] <ebarber> hi
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> plus id's games all have linux installers you can download
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> made by id
[05:24] <hendaus> dwidmann:  i dont have feisty cd
[05:24] <Pelo> !download
[05:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[05:24] <matt001> hendaus, can you backup your files?
[05:24] <Pelo> hendaus,  dl the cd from there
[05:25] <hendaus> matt001: backup?
[05:25] <dwidmann> I say the best way is a reinstall because if you can't do a reinstall, you have to first upgrade to edgy, then upgrade to feisty ... so you'd be downloading quite a bit more
[05:25] <hendaus> Pelo:  but i dont have cd in blank now cool, i am searching
[05:25] <masterk> adept isn't opening now...
[05:25] <intelikey> well i guess i'll have to use a case fan on my cpu.     oh none...
[05:25] <matt001> hendaus, so that you can keep a safe copy of your files if you decide to upgrade / full install
[05:25] <bob_> any error message?
[05:26] <masterk> nope
[05:26] <Pelo> hendaus,  start downloading it anyway,  you can always get some cd,s later,  we're not gonna do this tonight anyway, it's getting a bit late for me
[05:26] <masterk> after I type in the password it just doesn't do anything
[05:26] <bob_> check the sources list
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: heh...
[05:26] <bob_> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:26] <hakaisou> dwidmann: i'm not seeing this option...
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: old one die?
[05:26] <intelikey> yep
[05:27] <intelikey> stone cold grave yard dead.
[05:27] <dwidmann> hakaisou: it was always there before ... odd.
[05:27] <hakaisou> !session
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> its an older proc, right? a heatsink by itself might do the trick...maybe
[05:27] <hendaus> Pelo:  cool , i am living in colombia so i have time to install
[05:27] <ubuntu_> Hello
[05:27] <hakaisou> hello ubuntu
[05:27] <Minataku> Hey, intelikey and dwidmann, guess what I got my hands on by complete chance
[05:27] <ubuntu_> Is there a way to move a partition to somewhere else?
[05:27] <dwidmann> Minataku: a million dollars that you want to share with me?
[05:28] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yeah i could prolly get by with no fan  but i don't really like the idea.
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> neither would i :)
[05:28] <intelikey> Minataku i'm all ears
[05:28] <hendaus> Pelo:  yes i have found a cd blank
[05:28] <Minataku> A prototype SGI POWER Indigo^2 :D
[05:28] <intelikey> really ?
[05:28] <Minataku> It's an IP26 mainboard and R8000 CPU module in a teal Indigo^2 case
[05:28] <Minataku> Yeah
[05:28] <GWillakers> How can I arrange the order of songs in a playlist using GTKPOD?  Not very intuitive if there's a way.
[05:29] <Pelo> hendaus,  hve fun then
[05:29] <Minataku> The sticker on the back with the FCC info and such is missing
[05:29] <needs2repart> :-S
[05:29] <Minataku> It's replaced with a white label that says "PROTOTYPE TETON PRE MR"
[05:29] <needs2repart> !repartition
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repartition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <dwidmann> Interesting
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[05:29] <needs2repart> !partition
[05:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:29] <intelikey> kewl
[05:30] <dwidmann> So, it's from the mid-90's right?
[05:30] <Minataku> dwidmann: Yeah
[05:30] <hendaus> Pelo:  download .torrent or iso which one fast
[05:30] <Minataku> It's a rare prototype of an already rare machine
[05:30] <dwidmann> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indigo2
[05:30] <dwidmann> Indeed.
[05:30] <bob_> that depends hendaus
[05:30] <dwidmann> How'd you come by it?
[05:30] <Minataku> dwidmann: University decomissioned equipment sale
[05:30] <Pelo> hendaus, impossible to tell, you're choice, if you have torrent capability you are helping the community by using torrents
[05:30] <bob_> en torrent puede ser mas seguro
[05:31] <dwidmann> Minataku: How much did it set you back? It's a classic :)
[05:31] <hendaus> ok thanx anyway
[05:31] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:31] <Minataku> $10
[05:31] <Minataku> :D
[05:31] <dwidmann> Whoa, that's cheap!
[05:31] <Minataku> Indeed
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> nice
[05:32] <masterk> how do I install a patch file?
[05:32] <Minataku> The proto label was covered up by some company's name
[05:32] <Minataku> Probably the company that sold it to the Uni
[05:32] <Minataku> They hid that it was a proto, and I guess the Uni recently decomissioned it
[05:32] <bob_> what u mean exactly?, patch file?
[05:33] <intelikey> so that was the 75mhz modle ?
[05:33] <Minataku> intelikey: Yeah, it's got the 75MHz R8000
[05:33] <intelikey> i heard that over clocking was an option there.
[05:33] <Minataku> The CPU Module is "Assy no. 030-0751-001 Rev. 0"
[05:34] <masterk> I downloaded a gz file that contained a patch file, it is the ibm_acpi patch
[05:34] <intelikey> jumpers on the board iirc
[05:34] <bob_> does it have a CONFIGURE file?
[05:34] <masterk> nope just the patch file
[05:34] <ninina> anyone know how my autostart beryl...or is that a bad idea?
[05:34] <word> What's the name for the xserver debuginfo package?
[05:35] <masterk> hmm... maybe theres more to dl
[05:35] <bob_> no idea masterk, maybe you need to paste it on the desired folder?
[05:35] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Heehee, sorry, this is my baby now XD
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> ninina: link to the beryl exec file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:36] <dsmith__> nas anyone noticed that some peope do not care if they run windows or linux?
[05:36] <dsmith__> *has
[05:36] <intelikey> ninina beryl support is "supposed" to be in #ubuntu-effects    but a link or script in ~/.kde/Autostart/  should answer your Q.
[05:36] <dwidmann> dsmith__: yeah, point being?
[05:36] <dsmith__> just an observation
[05:36] <intelikey> dsmith__ yes. sad.
[05:36] <dsmith__> exactly...
[05:36] <dwidmann> Me, I personally do care. I hate Windows' guts.
[05:37] <dsmith__> lol...
[05:37] <bob_> i do care, on Windoze i was worried about worms, virus and garbage config files, not anymore
[05:37] <ninina> intelikey: #ubuntu-effect said "we don't anything that starts with a K" T_T
[05:37] <word> dwidmann: how can  you hate windows' guts if you can't see them? ZING
[05:37] <dsmith__> hah
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> ugh, gnomes
[05:37] <intelikey> ninina so you found a jerk,  and you can tell them i said so.
[05:37] <dsmith__> !
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> seconded
[05:38] <masterk> can someone take a look at this patch file and tell me what to do with it? it's just a bunch of code and stuff I don't understand
[05:38] <dsmith__> kde is much nicer
[05:38] <ninina> intelikey: okies well I'll mess around with .kde/autostart
[05:38] <Lilacor> holy cow the latest mac vs pc ad is brutal!
[05:38] <Lilacor> it's sad but true...lots of windows boxes come bloated with all kinds of crapware
[05:38] <dwidmann> bob_: I think I was just afraid of Windows itself really. What with explorer.exe crashing, and things like Windows Update available to sabotage your computer until you turned it off, and viruses running amok everywhere, even on the windows update site (kind of sad really). Maintenace #$!@#.
[05:38] <dsmith__> i have 5 desktops to populate nest week for the office and I have been contemplating using xubuntu vs. kde, but gosh darn kubuntu is so much prettier
[05:38] <ninina> I think KDE's desktop image rotate is the best pre-beryl invention
[05:39] <dsmith__> ninina: I love that feature
[05:39] <dsmith__> i got someone to checkout linux due to that
[05:39] <Minataku> Heh, IP26 doesn't have a working Linux yet XD
[05:39] <bob_> we all now that kind of garbage that windoze actually is...., sorry for the flaming
[05:39] <masterk> can someone take a look at this patch file and tell me what to do with it? it's just a bunch of code and stuff I don't understand please?
[05:39] <dsmith__> not flaming... TRUTHS
[05:40] <Lilacor> ninina: image rotate? do tell..
[05:40] <intelikey> ninina hehhe    :)
[05:40] <bob_> indeed dsmith
[05:40] <Minataku> I'll need to get my hands on a copy of IRIX for the SGI
[05:40] <dsmith__> Lilacor: KDE has a desktop background rotate feature
[05:40] <dsmith__> so does XP though
[05:40] <intelikey> yeah should be a dl on the web    no?
[05:41] <ninina> dsmith__: XP does?
[05:41] <Minataku> intelikey: Supposedly
[05:41] <Lilacor> dsmith__: do I just do that through desktop settings?
[05:41] <Minataku> I probably need an SGI account
[05:41] <dsmith__> one sec
[05:41] <Minataku> Like I have with Sun to get Solaris for free
[05:41] <ninina> intelikey: I thought it was pretty good hehe
[05:41] <bob_> could somebody give a hand to masterk, i'm walking on darkness when becomes to patch files
[05:42] <dwidmann> Minataku: how is solaris, I never did get around to playing with it
[05:42] <Minataku> It's nice, especially on Sun machines
[05:42] <dsmith__> Lilacor: Right click Desktop...configure desktop...click on background..click on slideshow...then setup
[05:42] <Lilacor> okie dokey
[05:42] <intelikey> bob_ unfortunately i'd be shadow boxing too.
[05:42] <bob_> k
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> beyond me as well
[05:43] <Minataku> I got 6 other computers too
[05:43] <bob_> sorry masterk, we tried...
[05:43] <Minataku> But the prototype SGI kinda trumps them all
[05:43] <word> masterk: patch -p0 > [patchfile]  in the directory of the software  your working on pre-compile
[05:43] <Minataku> Uh
[05:43] <word> i always get the > and < mixed up flip it if you get an error..
[05:43] <Minataku> It's <
[05:43] <intelikey> bob_ & masterk normally anything that comes as a tarball also has it's on instructions   look for all caps file names
[05:43] <bob_> there u go
[05:43] <dwidmann> Minataku: heh, I only have one (working) computer.
[05:44] <Minataku> You want to pipe the data from the patch file into the patch program
[05:44] <dsmith__> speaking of PCs, I almost acquired (4) Acer P3's on Saturday, for $10each. ASUS board 512mb ram, etc....
[05:44] <bob_> yup, I asked fot something like that to masterk
[05:44] <dwidmann> dsmith__: almost? I would have jumped on that ...
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> me too
[05:44] <dsmith__> it was for a charity, but someone told them to get $100 for one pc, keyboard, mouse and monitor
[05:44] <bob_> what do u think about Dell selling PCs with ubuntu preinstalled?
[05:45] <dsmith__> i balked and walked
[05:45] <Aresilek> ok first things first how do i change the keyboard layout to a latin keyboard in kubuntu?
[05:45] <dsmith__> bob_: swee
[05:45] <Minataku> Heh
[05:45] <dsmith__> bob_: sweet
[05:45] <dwidmann> bob_: I'd think a little more of it if it were better advertised
[05:45] <Minataku> I've got... uh... 23 computers now
[05:45] <dsmith__> lol
[05:45] <bob_> lol
[05:45] <word> noz!
[05:45] <dwidmann> word: because, there seems to be no support going on at the moment, and it's rather dull when the room is dead.
[05:46] <dsmith__> 23?
[05:46] <Aresilek> !latin keyboard
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about latin keyboard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <Lilacor> dsmith__: hmm...and is the background supposed to just scroll or change ever certain time interval
[05:46] <Lilacor> ?
[05:46] <Aresilek> :-(
[05:46] <dsmith__> Lilacor: add some pics in that folder
[05:46] <intelikey> Minataku you are growing   i'm in decline.    i think i only have 6 now.
[05:46] <dsmith__> yes
[05:46] <dsmith__> i have ~20
[05:46] <Minataku> Heh
[05:46] <masterk> ok i'm lost with this...
[05:46] <bob_> I have only 2 systems....:P
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> Aresilek: should be in kcontrol under regional/accessibility -> keyboard layout
[05:46] <dwidmann> If I have 1 with 5 virtual machines, does that count as six?
[05:47] <bob_> LOL
[05:47] <dsmith__> of course
[05:47] <Lilacor> dsmith__: I did. I added all of the default pictures.
[05:47] <masterk> i found out i needed to dl something else
[05:47] <bob_> perfect masterk
[05:47] <intelikey> dwidmann if it does my count is gonna sky rocket
[05:47] <dsmith__> Lilacor: it should rotate based on your time settings
[05:47] <masterk> so i dl it and the readme loses me... what's this about getting a kernel with acpi support?
[05:48] <Lilacor> dsmith__: I'm an idiot. I had it set for an hour.
[05:48] <bob_> boom
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> masterk: don't worry, ubuntu has that
[05:48] <dsmith__> Lilacor: No, your a linux user..
[05:48] <dsmith__> :)
[05:48] <Lilacor> dsmith__: :P
[05:48] <bob_> ;)
[05:49] <Lilacor> I think I like the SVG background better
[05:49] <Lilacor> very smooth
[05:49] <bob_> damn i need a shower and a good shave,,,,,:P
[05:49] <Aresilek> how do i open kcontrol?
[05:49] <BWOlf85> go get one bob
[05:49] <intelikey> geeky
[05:49] <Lilacor> bob_: in that order?
[05:49] <bob_> LOL
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> Aresilek: alt-f2 then type it in
[05:50] <bob_> sitting here all day
[05:50] <dwidmann> bob_: so do I, but I was going to procrastinated. And you had to go and remind me :\
[05:50] <dwidmann> * minus d
[05:50] <bob_> hahahhaa
[05:50] <dsmith__> I planted all my tomato plants today... instead of setting in front of my laptop
[05:50] <dsmith__> :)
[05:50] <Aresilek> does alt-f2 bring up a terminal?
[05:50] <null> how can i abort a shutdown now?
[05:50] <bob_> i was playing ET :P
[05:50] <Aresilek> and is so how do i get out once im in it?
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> Aresilek: just a run dialog
[05:51] <intelikey> dwidmann being reminded has never broken my procrastination...
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> Aresilek: close the window
[05:51] <dsmith__> there is always tomorrow..
[05:51] <dwidmann> intelikey: shhhh, you might remind my conscious self of that.
[05:52] <Aresilek> ok thanks it's on latin keyboard now....
[05:52] <word> is the packages.ubuntu.com site down temporarily?
[05:52] <dwidmann> I think my bed is going to kidnap me for about 10-16 hours now.
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> word: apparently
[05:53] <bob_> i have to be up and running at 6 am tomorrow :(
[05:53] <masterk> what's this about make?
[05:53] <word> masterk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:53] <dwidmann> bob_: I work weekends ... and as such I had to be up and running at 3am today
[05:53] <word> masterk: that installs make as well as other utilitys
[05:54] <bob_> damn
[05:54] <word> masterk: you need them to compile programs
[05:54] <intelikey> i had two grand fathers....   not unlike some of you...   the one's philosophy was something like this.  "why put off until tomarrow what you can finish today"   while the other would say something along the line of  "i've got to much to do, to get it all done anyway; i think i'll just go fishing"     so i can by rights choose either approach to lifes issues...
[05:55] <tulga> can I install beryl on kubuntu 7.04?
[05:55] <tulga> where is good howto guide
[05:55] <BWOlf85> lfs?
[05:55] <bob_> I work from home, but still, it's work :P
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> linux from scratch
[05:55] <dwidmann> tulga: the beryl wiki has a nice guide IIRC
[05:55] <intelikey> tulga yes.   the wikis have docs
[05:56] <tulga> ok. is beryl nice?
[05:56] <intelikey> or is that wikii
[05:56] <dwidmann> bob_I got home early today though :D 2:30
[05:56] <bob_> hehe
[05:56] <BWOlf85> i need a way that i can work at home!
[05:56] <bob_> ebay!
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: no, cuz just one would be wikus then :)
[05:56] <BWOlf85> selling what on ebay
[05:56] <word> tulga: the guide is -very- easy beryl-desktop.org there's like 2 commands to get your xorg configured and a couple more for some optional things
[05:56] <bob_> i seel linux stuff on ebay, thats what i do
[05:56] <intelikey> hitmanWilly not if wiki is single
[05:57] <dwidmann> BWOlf85: souls?
[05:57] <bob_> sell*
[05:57] <tulga> okey
[05:57] <dwidmann> BWOlf85: but arms and legs preferably
[05:57] <BWOlf85> dwidmann no souls their to hard to get people are stingy bout them
[05:57] <intelikey> well you could be right.     it's your language, i'm just trying to abuse it.
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:58] <intelikey> anyone here speek cherokee ?
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> i think english deserves to be abused as much as possible
[05:58] <intelikey> perzactly
[05:58] <dwidmann> intelikey: I have a feeling the odds of that are abysmally low
[05:59] <word> !gibberish
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gibberish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <word> apparently no channel for people who speak gibberish
[05:59] <dwidmann> "I refuse to be part of a society that encourages the rampant abuse of its own language."
[05:59] <bob_> check this out guys, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250098633518
[05:59] <intelikey> dwidmann me too
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann: what, just because a scan of Spin crashed my spellchecker?
[06:00] <puppetmaster> hi everyone
[06:01] <puppetmaster> I installed kubuntu on ubuntu
[06:01] <puppetmaster> when i press logout nothing comeup unless logout option
[06:02] <puppetmaster> how do i show the shutdown & restart option
[06:02] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: That's funny.
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> "open office spellcheck has found 152,978 spelling errors"
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> "now checking page 2"
[06:02] <word> puppetmaster: just a shot in the dark here but...maybe you don't have the permissions to shutdown? o.O
[06:02] <intelikey> well of all the farf-ig-nugen in a box...
[06:02] <dwidmann> puppetmaster, you must have started X with startx instead of through kdm or gdm?
[06:02] <puppetmaster> anyone help me please
[06:03] <puppetmaster> so, what should i do???
[06:03] <dwidmann> puppetmaster: log out, then if you need to shutdown, use "sudo shutdown -h now", if you want to reboot, use "sudo reboot"
[06:03] <puppetmaster> I know that
[06:03] <word> puppetmaster: hmm...not sure...is there any specific reason you want to have both?
[06:04] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Sorted?
[06:04] <puppetmaster> what should i do to show the buttons
[06:04] <intelikey> puppetmaster yes that a setting      kcontrol   and login screen     i think is the place to change it.
[06:04] <puppetmaster> ??
[06:04] <word> puppetmaster: intelikey is your saviour
[06:04] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: last I check kyah2004 was having trouble fetching the file from Adobe's site, haven't heard from kyah2004 in a while though
[06:04] <intelikey> word i don't even run a gui
[06:04] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:05] <word> just keep saying kyah2004's name and maybe kyah2004 will come back
[06:05] <intelikey> only works if kyah2004 is still around tho
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> word: it works better if you say kyah2004's name on seperate lines
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> such as kyah2004, please
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> come back kyah2004
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> :)
[06:06] <tinyx> hey
[06:06] <intelikey> or in pm
[06:06] <tinyx> how do I use my webcam with ubuntu?
[06:06] <tinyx> or kubuntu
[06:06] <intelikey> tinyx i give up    how ?
[06:06] <tinyx> Like what program do I use to record videos?
[06:06] <intelikey> oh
[06:06] <tinyx> like what is a good video editing program for kubuntu?
[06:07] <intelikey> !webcam
[06:07] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:07] <dwidmann> tinyx: I think kino, cinelerra, and kdenlive are the only video editors I've heard about, dunno how good they are (or aren't) though
[06:07] <eljefe> tinyx: KDEnlive but you have to go to the website to get it, and its still young
[06:08] <tinyx> Is there anything like "Windows Movie Maker"?
[06:08] <intelikey> i think they already answerd that
[06:08] <intelikey> e
[06:08] <tinyx> I mean, are those programs like that?
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> tinyx: i think cinerella is the closest you'll find
[06:09] <eljefe> KDEnlive is great; kino is good at capture but thats about it; cinelerra is difficult in my opinion; Jahshaka is decent but a bit confusing; MainActor is pretty good but *needs* Intel-brand hardware or it crashes (and its closed source and costs money)
[06:09] <eljefe> tinyx: nothing that simple that i know of :(  KDEnlive is pretty easy though, if you know what "cutting footage" and 'making clips on a timeline" mean
[06:10] <tinyx> yes i know those
[06:10] <intelikey> that's just how it is.    you get what you pay for.   if you pay for software your not free...
[06:10] <tinyx> what is KDEnlive's website?
[06:10] <eljefe> tinyx: i think that you'll figure them out then
[06:10] <eljefe> www.google.com ;)\
[06:10] <intelikey> eljefe .
[06:10] <eljefe> intelikey: how'd the fan turn out?
[06:10] <tinyx> haha alright
[06:11] <tinyx> bbiab
[06:11] <intelikey> eljefe it's dead.
[06:11] <eljefe> oh no... but you're running... another computer?
[06:11] <intelikey> """<eljefe> www.google.com ;)\"""  <<<< only that.
[06:11] <eljefe> ah... lol yeah.  ok, i guess, but if the asker has to go to the web anyway...
[06:12] <intelikey> no same one.     i pulled that fan and set a case fan in front of the heat sync
[06:12] <dwidmann> Okay, 22 hours of consciousness is enough for me for a day. I think I'm goint to go sleep, maybe I'll even get up tomorrow ... afternoon
[06:12] <eljefe> haha good start...
[06:12] <masterk> is there a process manager?
[06:12] <Minataku> eljefe... the PLA eljefe?
[06:12] <eljefe> masterk: in KDE, hit [ctrl] [esc] 
[06:12] <dwidmann> masterk: ctrl + esc
[06:13] <intelikey> eljefe yeah i know.  and often i what to tell idiots off    but the whole idea is to help not just make them mad enough to shut up....
[06:13] <eljefe> Minataku: um sorry, not sure what PLA means, so probably not him/me...
[06:13] <Minataku> Ah
[06:13] <Minataku> Sorry, then
[06:13] <DaSkreech> word: You have to look in the mirror and say his name three times
[06:13] <eljefe> lol no problem mate
[06:13] <Minataku> It's "Phone Losers of America", btw
[06:13] <DaSkreech> word: preferably in the bathroom
[06:13] <eljefe> ah
[06:13] <masterk> it says theres another adept running when i try to run adept
[06:13] <masterk> but i don't see one...
[06:13] <eljefe> well glad that i'm not him i think!
[06:14] <masterk> i only see adept notify
[06:14] <intelikey> !adaptcrashfix | masterk
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adaptcrashfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | masterk
[06:14] <ubotu> masterk: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:15] <eljefe> does anyone know how to add video files to an iPod running Apple's firmware?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> I know that I can kill a user's terminal session by killing the bash pid
[06:17] <DaSkreech> how do I do that for an X session ?
[06:17] <intelikey> kill x ?
[06:17] <masterk> ok i did that... and now it froze...
[06:18] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Little less drastic?
[06:18] <tinyx> how do I install KDEnlive?
[06:18] <intelikey> DaSkreech kill their DE
[06:18] <tinyx> The installation guide.. is in, french.
[06:19] <DaSkreech> killall kdeinit ?
[06:19] <intelikey> DaSkreech something along the line of killall gnome-session
[06:19] <intelikey> yeah that ^
[06:19] <eljefe> tinyx: heres a repository link http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/index.html
[06:19] <masterk> how do i kill processes?
[06:19] <intelikey> DaSkreech note that if more than one session exists you get them all that way
[06:20] <masterk> it says i have insufficient...
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Yeah I realize
[06:20] <DaSkreech>  I'd have to find one owned by said offender?
[06:20] <eljefe> masterk: either right-click in the [ctrl] [esc]  window and pick SIGKILL (or just click it, and then click [Kill] ...
[06:20] <intelikey> masterk     sudo killall <name>      <name> can be obtained from   ps ax
[06:21] <intelikey> DaSkreech there might be a betterway with fuser -k
[06:21] <intelikey> i haven't really played with that very much.
[06:21] <eljefe> masterk: or fin out its PID (Process ID) and go to a command line and type 'kill -9 <pid#>' or 'sudo kill -9 <pid#>' (sudo is for those nasty ones but its the root account, make sure that you know what you're killing)
[06:22] <wolferine> I have apache 2 and php5 installed, but my php isnt working
[06:22] <wolferine> where should I start to look?
[06:22] <intelikey> eljefe yes.  but that is process specific and may not work like the new user expects.    specally when trying to kill the parrent of a process and wondering why the thing just [defunct]  on them.
[06:23] <intelikey> !lamp | wolferine ?
[06:23] <ubotu> wolferine ?: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:24] <eljefe> intelikey: true enough, good thinks.
[06:24] <wolferine> intelikey, that link has absolutely nothing to do with helping me
[06:24] <intelikey> wolferine has to do with the instalation/setup of php   does it not ?
[06:25] <eljefe> does anyone know how to add video files to an iPod running Apple's firmware?
[06:26] <masterk> FUDGE! adept keeps freezing ever since I tried to install jre and it got locked because that froze
[06:26] <Jucato> !adeptfix | masterk
[06:26] <ubotu> masterk: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:26] <DaSkreech> masterk: install java in the command line
[06:26] <eljefe> masterk: once you unlock adept/apt/dpkg the first thing you should do is try to remove jre... then try to reinstall or install-something or whatever
[06:27] <wolferine> anyone willing to help me get php5 to work with apache2 (I had a previous apache install -- which is the reason for the issue) ?
[06:27] <eljefe> masterk: yes at the command line you'll be much better able to answer the licensing questions
[06:27] <eljefe> sorry wolferine i don't know
[06:28] <intelikey> wolferine can you not go to the page and look at the "trubble shooting" php 5  section ?
[06:28] <wolferine> intelikey, ill wait for someone else to help me, thanks
[06:28] <intelikey> you're welcome.
[06:29] <intelikey> wolferine and you do have  "libapache2-mod-php5"   installed ?
[06:29] <wolferine> intelikey, as I said, ill wait for someone else, thank you
[06:30] <intelikey> as you wish.
[06:31] <masterk> when I try to get build-essential and the others in adept it says there was a problem downloading the packages or it might break something...
[06:31] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: apparently he had to download it on a windows machine
[06:32] <intelikey> masterk can you show the exact error ?
[06:33] <masterk> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[06:33] <intelikey> masterk sudo apt-get install build-essential       and see if it's more forthcomming with info
[06:33] <intelikey> close adept first ^
[06:34] <masterk> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:34] <masterk> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:34] <masterk> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:34] <intelikey> close adept first ^
[06:34] <masterk> oh... silly me?
[06:34] <Jucato> silly adept :)
[06:35] <intelikey> silly smily
[06:35] <masterk> sexy~ it seems to be working
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Yes?
[06:35] <eljefe> tinyx: PiTiVi is also an easy video editor and it is in ubuntu's repositories
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Someone called?
[06:36] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you're nickname is "silly"?
[06:36] <intelikey> we caught it the first time DaSkreech just didn't laugh
[06:36] <eljefe> DaSkreech: pah-leeese
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Sexy with a tilde :0
[06:36] <eljefe> lol
[06:36] <lnxkde> hey
[06:36] <masterk> wth its installing java re too?
[06:36] <lnxkde> I need to launch a command before X and KDM
[06:36] <lnxkde> were should I put it?
[06:37] <intelikey> upstart ?
[06:37] <masterk> how do I change my name to a different color in irc lol
[06:37] <lnxkde> intelikey: upstart ?
[06:37] <intelikey> idk  /etc/rcS.d/S99yourscript.sh
[06:38] <lnxkde> I just want to load a special modulo
[06:38] <lnxkde> I want to put
[06:38] <lnxkde> modprobe -i module
[06:38] <intelikey> masterk in the menu ?
[06:39] <eljefe> masterk: in KDE's Konversation, look in Settings _> Comfigure...
[06:39] <intelikey> lnxkde then   /etc/rcS.d/S99yourscript.sh   should work...    but adding the module name   to   /etc/modules  should work alos
[06:39] <intelikey> also
[06:39] <Jucato> masterk: it means that it wasn't finished installing jre, which would be why Adept was acting up
[06:39] <masterk> there we go
[06:40] <lnxkde> intelikey: how was I started a script?
[06:40] <masterk> my manly colored name
[06:40] <Minataku> Heya, Jucato
[06:40] <lnxkde> #/bin/bash or  /bin/bash
[06:40] <Jucato> hi Minataku
[06:40] <kane_> anyone have any idea how to get the " X Int10 " server module for Xorg?
[06:40] <intelikey> lnxkde  #!/bin/sh
[06:40] <Jucato> lnxkde: #!/bin/bash or #!/bin/sh
[06:40] <Jucato> bah
[06:41] <Minataku> Jucato: Did you hear? I got a prototype SGI POWER Indigo^2 (IP26) :D
[06:41] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:41] <Jucato> Minataku: um.. didn't hear.. don't even know what's that...
[06:41] <Minataku> Heehee
[06:41] <intelikey> lnxkde but as i said   that's what  /etc/modules exists for.
[06:41] <masterk> what kind of file should I be looking to use make on?
[06:41] <masterk> it didn't tell me in the readme
[06:41] <Jucato> !compile | masterk
[06:41] <ubotu> masterk: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:41] <Zeelot> question: do I need to install chipset drivers in linux? o.O
[06:41] <lnxkde> intelikey: module wont work unless I do the modprobe -i
[06:42] <Jucato> 2 more corners up for grabs :)
[06:42] <kyah2004> Daskreech: from one thing to the next. youtibe loads but keeps on freezing when i try to load a flash file
[06:42] <Jucato> (presuming the room is quadrilateral
[06:42] <intelikey> lnxkde well the script should work.    don't for get to let root own it and make it 700   or at the most 744
[06:43] <intelikey> not pentagonal ?
[06:43] <lnxkde> ohh I was makiing it 755
[06:43] <lnxkde> :s
[06:44] <intelikey> lnxkde you don't really want non-root users trying to exec it.
[06:44] <intelikey> don't even really need them reading.
[06:44] <Jucato> 700 then? :)
[06:44] <Jucato> or 740..
[06:44] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: any other pages work?
[06:44] <intelikey> yeah 740 is good
[06:45] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:45] <Minataku> Heya, DaSkreech
[06:45] <kyah2004> let me try
[06:45] <Minataku> I take it you heard my find :D
[06:45] <DaSkreech> hiya
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Yeah :)
[06:46] <Minataku> Cool, eh? :3
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[06:46] <kyah2004> by the way when i type about:plugins this is what is shown
[06:46] <DaSkreech> what are you going to do with it?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> !paste
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:46] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Use it
[06:46] <Minataku> XD
[06:46] <eljefe> DaSkreech: whats the great plugin find?
[06:47] <intelikey> yeah man routers/servers are always in season...
[06:47] <masterk> it says "make: Nothing to be done for `Makefile'." when I try to run make
[06:47] <lnxkde> brb
[06:48] <eljefe> Minataku: whats the great plugin find?
[06:48] <Minataku> ??
[06:48] <intelikey> masterk then it needs a ./configure    or something     look for all CAPS file names and read.
[06:48] <eljefe> Minataku: i thought that you and DaSkreech had something good to share, a cool plugin or something
[06:48] <Minataku> Nah, just my cool computer
[06:48] <eljefe> ah
[06:48] <eljefe> lol cool
[06:48] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: try orisinal.com
[06:49] <intelikey> eljefe you know.   "kid with a new toy"     :)
[06:49] <intelikey> christmas in july,  and all the raw.
[06:50] <intelikey> i'm glad for him.    but not as excited as he is.
[06:50] <lnxkde> time to test
[06:50] <Minataku> ...
[06:50] <eljefe> ...!
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Oh wonderful Vista how ever would I live without you
[06:50] <intelikey> that's just sick.
[06:50] <Minataku> Even as a joke
[06:51] <Minataku> That's XXXXXXX wrong
[06:51] <eljefe> DaSkreech: this is a family forum, please watch the language
[06:51] <DaSkreech> So Vista reboots my machine without asking me after installing updates i told it not to
[06:51] <intelikey> yeah that's it DaSkreech
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Then it comes back up and tells me it did this in a helpful popup
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Then it pops up a "solutions" bubble
[06:51] <intelikey> now you're telling it like it is.
[06:51] <DaSkreech> apparently the issue with my machine is firefox
[06:51] <Kite_DH> intelikey: sick, indeed
[06:52] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh website loads
[06:52] <Minataku> "I know better than you, because you're obviously too stupid to do anything since you spent $400 on me"
[06:52] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: as does the flash?
[06:52] <kyah2004> yeh but now firefore has frozen again
[06:52] <Minataku> Come to think of it, DaSkreech... why WERE you so stupid that you bought Vista?
[06:52] <intelikey> Kite_DH ok,  i was over dramatic.    i'll tone down.
[06:53] <masterk> !paste
[06:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:53] <Minataku> Heehee, sorry, DaSkreech
[06:53] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh but now firefox has frozen again
[06:53] <Minataku> But seriously... why? XD
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Minataku: came with the new computer. no choice given
[06:53] <Minataku> Ah
[06:53] <Minataku> Call 'em up and tell them you want the refund on the Vista license
[06:53] <Minataku> That should be a good $100
[06:54] <eljefe> anyone know how to change my nickname so that my ISP's IP address isn't tagged to the end?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> My mom is using it :(
[06:54] <DaSkreech> It's annoying
[06:54] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Not anymore she isn't
[06:54] <eljefe> ouch!
[06:55] <intelikey> yes.       Minataku that's the first i've heard that mentioned in here.   we should put that link in the topic.   you can get a refund on the M$ crap if you remove it.
[06:55] <Minataku> Tell her Vista is evil and it will rape you in your sleep (You as in DaSkreech... hit on the motherly protective instinct XD )
[06:55] <masterk> can someone take a look at this
[06:55] <masterk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21791/
[06:55] <Jucato> eljefe: you will have to ask freenode staffers for an IRC cloak
[06:56] <eljefe> Jucato: really?  is that a pain?
[06:56] <Minataku> I remember doing that... I personally asked lilo for mine... ;~;
[06:56] <Minataku> He gave it to me, too ;o;
[06:56] <Jucato> eljefe: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[06:56] <eljefe> thanks
[06:56] <intelikey> yeah   lilo was top notch
[06:56] <masterk> Minataku do you like anime?
[06:56] <Minataku> masterk: Yes
[06:57] <masterk> you makie lots of anime emotes minataku
[06:57] <kyah2004> Daskreech: would not installing drivers ffor my monitor cause firefox to crash so often when running flash
[06:57] <Minataku> My computer naming system is anime characters XD
[06:57] <DaSkreech> no
[06:57] <masterk> so can someone look at that portion of the readme for me?
[06:57] <masterk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21791/
[06:57] <DaSkreech> that would cause the monitor to crash
[06:58] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: hey. actually the #ubuntu would probably have more help with firefox
[06:58] <DaSkreech> most people here use konqueror
[06:58] <Minataku> intelikey: Yeah, I used to PM him once in a while and talk with him for a bit
[06:59] <kyah2004> oh  zeen
[06:59] <Minataku> Heh
[06:59] <eljefe> DaSkreech: not so sure about that, konq has its benefits but so does Firefox
[06:59] <Minataku> I don't even use Kubuntu or any variant of Ubuntu XD
[06:59] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: you can type /join #ubuntu here
[06:59] <DaSkreech> You can be in both at the same time
[06:59] <kyah2004> ok  cool
[06:59] <eljefe> Minataku: is this just a fun place to hang out, or what? ;)
[07:00] <DaSkreech> eljefe: yeah but crashing as soon as flash loads is one the Firefox seems to hold
[07:00] <Minataku> eljefe: I like to help people
[07:00] <eljefe> kyah2004: look for the connections on the left (of Konversation) to pick which you want to 'be' in
[07:00] <Minataku> Of course I often tend to confuse the crap out of them in here XD
[07:00] <eljefe> lol
[07:01] <intelikey> masterk   ok what hangs ?      you are in the dir ?
[07:01] <kyah2004> eljefa: i only see #kubuntu
[07:01] <Minataku> Being a Gentoo user will cause that XD
[07:01] <eljefe> ok folks its time for me to sleep.  good evening (or whatever time you have)
[07:01] <eljefe> kyah2004: did you type /join ubuntu ?
[07:01] <kyah2004> oh zeen thanks
[07:01] <eljefe> zeen?
[07:02] <intelikey> masterk you run    make  ?
[07:02] <intelikey> masterk ?
[07:03] <masterk> i run make on makefile and it says "make: Nothing to be done for `Makefile'." intelikey sorry I was doing laundry
[07:04] <intelikey> eljefe i don't know if i fully answered you eariler.    i pulled the cpu fan and stood a case fan dirrected at the heat sync    for a temp fix.
[07:04] <intelikey> masterk ok  you are in the   ibm-acpi*     dir ?
[07:04] <masterk> yes
[07:05] <intelikey> ok  ls | grep -ie make
[07:05] <masterk> ~/acpi/ibm-acpi-0.11$ ls | grep -ie make
[07:05] <masterk> Makefile
[07:05] <masterk> Makefile~
[07:06] <intelikey> you have exited the makefile ?
[07:06] <intelikey> edited
[07:06] <masterk> no
[07:06] <intelikey> you have build-essential installed   ?
[07:07] <kane_> Is there anyway to work around the issues with fiesty and TV outs with nvidia?
[07:07] <masterk> yes
[07:08] <intelikey> hmmm ok. masterk what url did you dl that from, let me give it a look see.
[07:09] <intelikey> ?
[07:09] <masterk> http://ibm-acpi.sourceforge.net/
[07:10] <intelikey> k give me a few.
[07:13] <masterk> i got that from here: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_ACPI_work I am trying to make standby work
[07:13] <kyah2004> Daaskreech: which location do i copy thesee plugins for konqueror to work with flash
[07:13] <masterk> i got that from here: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_ACPI_work I am trying to make standby work intelikey
[07:14] <DaSkreech> !flash | kyah2004
[07:14] <ubotu> kyah2004: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:14] <DaSkreech> that page should sort you out with konqueror
[07:15] <kyah2004> Daskreech: cool thanks
[07:15] <DaSkreech> no prob
[07:16] <wolferine> anyone willing to help me get php5 to work with apache2 (I had a previous apache install -- which is the reason for the issue) ? -- I also had this same issue occur at work, I had to format my system to get it to work...
[07:17] <DaSkreech> !php
[07:17] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:18] <wolferine> btw, looking for someone who really knows what they are doing
[07:19] <DaSkreech> wolferine: asked in  #php ?
[07:19] <wolferine> its a ubuntu/apache issue
[07:19] <intelikey> masterk i don't see anything wrong there.   i'm using dapper so i can't fully test it but it seems to make ok for me.    maybe you got a bumb package ?     idk.
[07:20] <intelikey> masterk i can't duplicate the error so i can't really trubble shoot it.
[07:21] <wolferine> how do you perform complete removal (dependencies, all files in each dir, etc..) ?
[07:21] <wolferine> from cli
[07:21] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get remove <package> --purge
[07:21] <DaSkreech> !purge
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <masterk> well maybe you can help me get standby to work?
[07:22] <masterk> well maybe you can help me get standby to work? intelikey
[07:22] <wolferine> wouldn't aptitude be more suited for a complete removal?
[07:22] <intelikey> masterk prolly not.   but that's not kde specific.  if no one pipes up in here you can ask in /join #ubuntu   about that.
[07:22] <DaSkreech> wolferine: sure
[07:23] <intelikey> masterk i've never actually messed with standby/suspend  no lappy with a need for that.
[07:23] <ejupin> Can't start KDE, I can only log into Gnome., something corrupted? Is there a fix?
[07:23] <wolferine> so what would I do then DaSkreech ?
[07:24] <DaSkreech> aptitude remove <package> --purge I would guess
[07:24] <masterk> ah dam
[07:24] <intelikey> ejupin maybe chown `whoami` -R ~/.kde
[07:24] <wolferine> so you have no idea then?
[07:24] <ubuntu> hi
[07:24] <ubuntu> how can i mount a writing floppy disk
[07:24] <ejupin> intelikey: I can do that from a terminal here in Gnome?
[07:25] <ubuntu> ?
[07:25] <intelikey> ejupin yes
[07:25] <intelikey> ejupin and sudo it.
[07:25] <ejupin> thanks
[07:25] <intelikey> brecha sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media -o umask=000
[07:26] <brecha> i tried 'sudo mount -t vfat -w /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy'
[07:26] <brecha> ok
[07:26] <brecha> let me try it...
[07:26] <DaSkreech> wolferine: a quick man aptitude search for purge should get you sorted right quick
[07:26] <intelikey> and mountpoint is at your discression
[07:26] <wolferine> well, there is no --purge for aptitude
[07:26] <wolferine> if you dont know the answer DaSkreech, do you mind not answering...
[07:27] <DaSkreech> I did till you started talking about aptitude. not my app
[07:27] <DaSkreech>  I do knwo how to use a man page though
[07:27] <DaSkreech> I suggest you learn as well
[07:27] <DaSkreech>  saves you years
[07:27] <intelikey> :)
[07:28] <wolferine> DaSkreech, i think I know enough about "how to use a man page", please dont be insulting
[07:28] <DaSkreech> karma is wonderful my friend :)
[07:29] <wolferine> how do you perform complete removal (dependencies, all files in each dir, etc..) ?
[07:29] <intelikey> you say karma,  i say reaping what you sow.   you say ****** you.   i say bless you....
[07:29] <DaSkreech> intelikey: I've heard of this rm -rf thing.. how does that work?
[07:30] <intelikey> DaSkreech ahhhh   i think you have to be root.
[07:30] <intelikey> :)
 brecha sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media -o umask=000--->> i made this.. i cannot even see the files in the floppy.. an it steel... read only..
[07:31] <intelikey> brecha mountpoint  "/media"  -vs-  "/mnt/floppy"
[07:31] <intelikey> repost to brecha  <intelikey> and mountpoint is at your discression
[07:31] <Captain_Haddock> wolferine: apt-get remove --purge probably
[07:31] <brecha> now.. im good with that
[07:31] <brecha> thanks
[07:31] <intelikey> np
[07:32] <wolferine> Captain_Haddock, so your not sure?
[07:32] <wolferine> --purge
[07:32] <wolferine>           Use purge instead of remove for anything that would be removed. An
[07:32] <wolferine>           asterisk ("*") will be displayed next to packages which are
[07:32] <wolferine>           scheduled to be purged. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Purge.
[07:33] <wolferine> hmm, thats helpful
[07:33] <Jucato> !paste | wolferine
[07:33] <ubotu> wolferine: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:33] <tulga> howto install RestrictedDriversManager?
[07:33] <wolferine> Jucato, how about you help instead?
[07:33] <tulga> wiki not working
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Damn it we lost again!
[07:34] <tmbg> wolferine, how about you not piss off 200 people
[07:34] <Captain_Haddock> Anybody fancy helping me sort out Samba authentication issues?
[07:34] <Jucato> wolferine: there's not reason for you to flood the channel
[07:34] <intelikey> or 360 people even
[07:34] <wolferine> flood
[07:34] <tulga> howto install RestrictedDriversManager?
[07:34] <wolferine> Jucato, did I hurt your eyes?
[07:35] <Captain_Haddock> wolferine: play nice or don't play at all.
[07:35] <wolferine> i have a question, no one has an answer
[07:35] <Captain_Haddock> Time to move on then.
[07:35] <wolferine> im just bored with your "wasting my time" chit chat
[07:35] <intelikey> tulga i can't find any such package ?    search the packagemanager for what you are refering tooo
[07:35] <Jucato> !info restricted-manager
[07:35] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:36] <intelikey> there ya go.  ^
[07:36] <Jucato> tulga: it's very dependent on GNOME
[07:36] <tulga> okey
[07:37] <intelikey> yes and what Jucato is saying does not mean you can't use it in kubuntu.  just that it will require a lot of gnome libs and packages.
[07:37] <brecha> wich kind of HD is an serial ata drive??
[07:37] <brecha> i mean if im trying to mount it
[07:37] <tulga> I want install beryl on KDE. but I need install ATI driver
[07:38] <intelikey> brecha in the later live CD  all are sd?   for scsi emulation is in use.
[07:39] <intelikey> brecha and   cat /proc/partitions
[07:39] <intelikey> should give you info so you can find/identify the partitions you want.
[07:39] <masterk_> crap when I tried suspend it only made me unable to get out of suspend without taking out the battery and unpliugging thae laptop...
[07:39] <brecha> thanks again
[07:39] <brecha> :P
[07:40] <wolferine> whose responsible for setting up .deb packages on each of the sites? (in sources.list)
[07:40] <intelikey> masterk_  ohhh yuch.     ;{
[07:42] <tulga> my feisty cannot restart. where is problem?
[07:42] <brecha> thanks for the heko
[07:42] <brecha> help
[07:42] <brecha> bye
[07:44] <intelikey> tulga can you define "cannot restart" please?
[07:44] <masterk_> my dad is in the kitchen writing in a notebook and sniffeling while looking at his and my moms wedding... >.>
[07:45] <tulga> intelikey: when I click restart, my computer's all hardware stopped. but cannot start
[07:45] <Ayabara> I want to connect my Inspiron laptop with ati m300 graphics to an lcd-tv using vga. Can I expect this to work out of the box?
[07:47] <intelikey> tulga hmmm   ok.   there is one thing i read on that issue, you might want to check into it; that the kernel is compiled for one (most common) type of bios call for halt and reboot.  but that another call is used on some bios'.   perhaps that could be why.    there is also on some occations that one process does not stop correctly and the kernel is simply waiting for it's return signal...   that i know nothing about really
[07:48] <tulga> ok. I think latest thing too
[07:48] <epimeth> and a good morning to all
[07:49] <intelikey> right back at ya epimeth
[07:49] <intelikey> or leroy   :)
[07:49] <epimeth> oh no!  the secret is out!
[07:49] <epimeth> :-)
[07:49] <epimeth> garr
[07:50] <epimeth> my kubuntu is buggy as all hell
[07:50] <epimeth> amarok's gui won't start half the time
[07:50] <intelikey> epimeth latest version i suppose ?
[07:50] <epimeth> and now the server list isn't closing
[07:50] <epimeth> yup
[07:50] <epimeth> fully upgraded except for hal
[07:51] <epimeth> and why are there two konqueror's open?  geez...
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Yeah feisty is a pain
[07:51] <intelikey> maybe you can upgrade to the next prerelease ?
[07:51] <epimeth> lol
[07:52] <epimeth> sure
[07:52] <epimeth> lets get as much buggy software on my work box as possible
[07:52] <epimeth> brb
[07:53] <epimeth> I think part of the problem is beryl, actually....
[07:53] <DaSkreech> sure just cause you have exotic pets ;-P
[07:53] <epimeth> but thats only when beryl is actually running
[07:53] <DaSkreech> I get Bambi
[07:53] <intelikey> i was complaining this morning that there was nothing broken and asking if i should upgrade to remidy that....
[07:53] <service> hi there.  can i find out what audio card i have without having to dissasemble the computer?
[07:53] <Ayabara> how can prevent stuff like knetworkmanager and "power manager" from showing in the system tray?
[07:53] <epimeth> service: depends.... look at the output of lspci
[07:54] <epimeth> Ayabara: prevent from showing, or not run?
[07:54] <Ayabara> epimeth: prevent from showing
[07:54] <intelikey> oh never mind.
[07:54] <intelikey> Ayabara you can have them auto hide
[07:54] <Ayabara> epimeth: the tray get's awfully cluttered after a while
[07:55] <wolferine> how can I check if apache/apache-perl/apache2 are installed? from cli
[07:55] <service> doesn't say what it is
[07:55] <service> is there any audio driver in kubuntu that works for any audio card?
[07:55] <epimeth> Ayabara: I dunno, actually... thats a good question
[07:56] <intelikey> epimeth 'him'  the deer in the movie.  but  she the girl next door  in real life.
[07:56] <tulga> howto add beryl-manager to startup?
[07:56] <epimeth> service: you got that backwords... "do I have an audio card that works with generic sound drivers?
[07:56] <tulga> where is startup?
[07:56] <epimeth> ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:56] <service> haha
[07:56] <epimeth> tulga: ?^
[07:57] <tulga> copy to Autostart folder?
[07:57] <epimeth> tulga: no, symlink
[07:57] <epimeth> tulga: $man ln
[07:57] <tulga> ok thanks
[07:57] <epimeth> tulga: specifically, ln -s TARGET LINK_NAME
[07:58] <intelikey> and path.
[07:58] <epimeth> tulga: you can call it anything, but I'd suggest something meaningful :-)
[07:58] <tulga> ok
[07:58] <epimeth> intelikey: awww... unrequieted love?
[07:58] <tulga> today I received 3 Kubuntu CDs. very happy day
[07:59] <intelikey> not at all.   just an observation.
[07:59] <Jezz_X> 3 ?
[07:59] <tulga> yes
[07:59] <epimeth> intelikey: so whats the deal with exotic pets?
[07:59] <intelikey> tulga   ln -s /usr/bin/beryl ~/.kde/Autostart/$RANDOM
[08:00] <intelikey> epimeth idk you brought that up...
[08:00] <tulga> yes. I do it
[08:00] <tulga> but beryl not working :(
[08:01] <intelikey> tulga should start when you login
[08:01] <tulga> yes, I restarted
[08:01] <intelikey> have you loged out and back in ?
[08:01] <intelikey> ok.
[08:01] <tulga> yes. beryl cannot select Beryl window manager
[08:01] <tulga> it automatically select Kwin
[08:01] <epimeth> isn't it bery-manager ?
[08:01] <intelikey> can you run it in a konsole ?
[08:02] <intelikey> epimeth prolly is.   i'm not a gui guy
[08:02] <tulga> Checking for Xcomposite extension : failed
[08:02] <intelikey> ok there it is.
[08:02] <epimeth> intelikey: I brought up exotic pets?
[08:02] <intelikey> !ati | tulga
[08:03] <tulga> glxinfo | grep direct
[08:03] <ubotu> tulga: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:03] <tulga> direct rendering is yes
[08:04] <intelikey> do the     nvidia-config      ?
[08:04] <tulga> ATI
[08:04] <tulga> X600
[08:05] <intelikey> epimeth no it was DaSkreech that brought up exotic pets.   sorry
[08:05] <intelikey> ok.  then i don't guess i know why.
[08:05] <intelikey> @ tulga
[08:06] <intelikey> tulga you can ask in #ubuntu-effects
[08:06] <tulga> ok
[08:06] <intelikey> !beryl
[08:06] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:08] <oldwest> hi
[08:08] <epimeth> tulga: I'd also suggest a google search for beryl and the error you are getting
[08:08] <intelikey> i kinda wish my nvidia card was supported...
[08:09] <intelikey> oldwest
[08:09] <oldwest> hay whatz cook'n?
[08:10] <oldwest> sunday evening rest time
[08:10] <intelikey> steaks and 'taters green beans and biscuts
[08:10] <intelikey> come on over and bring the young'ens
[08:10] <oldwest> can't remember how to change time format - anyone?
[08:11] <intelikey> oldwest right click the clock and configure
[08:11] <oldwest> funny
[08:11] <oldwest> sounds great
[08:12] <intelikey> it's in the locals/lang & formats  section i think
[08:13] <intelikey> i kinda lost interest in kde when it defaulted to changing the first day of the weak to monday, which it's not.
[08:13] <RawSewage> lol
[08:14] <oldwest> intel - changed to pacific - la - but still military - need to restart session?
[08:14] <intelikey> oldwest no it's in the same config but it's a different section
[08:15] <oldwest> hmmmm.... look again
[08:15] <intelikey> oldwest i don't have kde so i can't give exact names.  but something to do with language
[08:15] <wolferine> when I do a dpkg -L | grep package, some are listed as 'rc' not 'ii', what does that mean?
[08:15] <intelikey> that's where you select 12/24 hour
[08:15] <intelikey> and which day is first day of the weak,   and the date format...  all that stuff
[08:17] <oldwest> yup i finally found it & said i had to reboot session - will make a note this time git'n fergetful ya know
[08:17] <oldwest> :o)
[08:17] <intelikey> :)
[08:17] <intelikey> yes i knew when you found it you would get it all streight.
[08:18] <oldwest> intel - you use gnome?
[08:18] <intelikey> no
[08:18] <intelikey> i use blackbox   "when i use a gui"
[08:18] <intelikey> which is not often.
[08:18] <oldwest> you said no kde - what desktop u like?
[08:19] <intelikey> blackbox ^
[08:19] <intelikey> fluxbox is a fork of blackbox
[08:19] <oldwest> oh ok i looked at that a couple reloads back - it looks pretty kool - this load is a work in progress ....
[08:20] <intelikey> yeah it's not "feature rich" but it's real light.
[08:20] <oldwest> by end of week will have blkbx & maybe gnome or sumthin else to try out
[08:21] <intelikey> i have learned to edit the style's if i want to, and it's menu is flexable.    seeing that i don't like icons anyway it's like it was talour made for me.
[08:21] <oldwest> runn'n a hotrod dual core w/2gigs ram - was evaling vista & scrubbed it
[08:21] <oldwest> runs great w/linux
[08:22] <intelikey> :)
[08:22] <oldwest> this is so much more stable
[08:22] <intelikey> i'm running a cold rod p1 with 64m ram    so light is the name of the game for me.
[08:23] <oldwest> thats a capital P-/I fpr pentium - I w/64 right?
[08:24] <intelikey> pentium one    100 mhz  mmx cpu     with 64mb ram.
[08:24] <oldwest> howse it run unbuntu w/blkbox - pretty good?
[08:25] <kronoman> hello
[08:25] <intelikey> yeah real good   imo
[08:25] <kronoman> any other music player for KDE, besides amarok?
[08:25] <kronoman> must be a music player, not music manager
[08:25] <kronoman> I just want to hear the music, not manage it
[08:25] <intelikey> vlc
[08:25] <Cruzader> xmms? does that count?
[08:25] <oldwest> wow havn't seen one of those in awhile - great!
[08:25] <kronoman> I already have xmms and it hangs sometimes
[08:25] <kronoman> some KDE native?
[08:26] <wolferine> when I do a dpkg -L | grep package, some are listed as 'rc' not 'ii', what does that mean?
[08:26] <intelikey> kronoman if you are for real about the "must be a music player, not music manager"    sox
[08:26] <intelikey> it's not kde it's CLI
[08:26] <RawSewage> theres Audacious
[08:26] <intelikey> totem
[08:27] <RawSewage> Totem is GNOME
[08:27] <intelikey> k something ....     ah   let me look
[08:27] <RawSewage> but for something like WinAmp, try Audacious
[08:27] <intelikey> kaboodle - light, embedded media player for KDE
[08:27] <kronoman> ok, I'm checking them
[08:27] <intelikey> that's what i was thinking of.
[08:27] <kronoman> audacious, kaboodle
[08:28] <kronoman> I will use them a few days to decide which one I like most
[08:28] <kronoman> Amarok was using ~50 % cpu on my modest machine to play mp3s
[08:28] <Zabulus> alright, need help, just installed feisty, and my mouse randomly locks up
[08:28] <intelikey> kronoman but do give   VLC  a shoot
[08:28] <intelikey> shot
[08:28] <intelikey> next word would get me in trubble.
[08:30] <kronoman> vlc looks nice, but adds video functionality
[08:30] <Zabulus> ...
[08:30] <intelikey> yes it does both audio and vidio
[08:30] <Zabulus> well, that was fun
[08:31] <intelikey> kronoman and handles most formats without any help/codecs
[08:31] <Zabulus> ok, apparently im not allowed to use adept...
[08:31] <intelikey> Zabulus open a konsole and type   sudo echo yes
[08:32] <Zabulus> ummmm, my mouse froze, how do i get to it from keyboard?
[08:32] <intelikey> alt+f2  konsole
[08:32] <Zabulus> ok...what did that do?
[08:33] <intelikey> did it   say    yes ?
[08:33] <Zabulus> yeah
[08:33] <Zabulus> now what?
[08:34] <intelikey> then the sudoers file is ok and you are in the admin group.  so you are root jr.
[08:34] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix
[08:34] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:34] <intelikey> type in sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:35] <intelikey> then adept should work for you.
[08:35] <intelikey> what exactly are you trying to install ?
[08:35] <intelikey> if i may be so bold.
[08:35] <Zabulus> trying to get amarok to play mp3's
[08:36] <wolferine> !bug
[08:36] <intelikey> !mp3
[08:36] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <Zabulus> soo, anyone know anything about the mouse freezing?
[08:37] <intelikey> usb mouse ?
[08:37] <Zabulus> yep
[08:37] <Zabulus> it works for a little, then freezes
[08:37] <intelikey> try unplug/replug ?
[08:38] <intelikey> hmmm that sounds buggy.
[08:39] <intelikey> maybe you should also check   dmesg      and tail /var/log/xorg.*    or is it Xorg.*  ??
[08:39] <KevinAlaska> Hello Everyone! :) Hoping someone here might be able to point me in the correct direction to fix a USB HDD connection issue that uses 'NTFS Config' program?
[08:41] <intelikey> prolly not useful to you but the bot has a listing.
[08:41] <intelikey> !ntfs
[08:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:42] <Zabulus> well, unplug replug didnt work, cant see much in konsole using dmesg
[08:42] <intelikey> you can page up     not that it will help.
[08:43] <intelikey> in konsole i mean
[08:43] <KevinAlaska> microsofts HDD format stands for New Technology File System (from what I read)  anyhow.. in media all I get now (worked last night) is a file folder icon in KDE (feisty) and from there it reads there is full empty drive.  but when you move it to my wifes WinXP computer it comes up.
[08:43] <michael__> is there a konsole cmomand to install deb's
[08:43] <michael__> ?
[08:44] <intelikey> michael__ three or four
[08:44] <michael__> might i have one :D?
[08:44] <michael__> i usually right click and click install but im just wondering
[08:44] <KevinAlaska> Loading the link now ubotu.. thanks for the link I will check it out.  I will try to multitask. :P
[08:44] <intelikey> michael__  apt-get install package-name     aptitude    dselect   and  dpkg to round out the list
[08:45] <michael__> ah, thanks
[08:45] <intelikey> michael__ if the deb is local  dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[08:45] <michael__> okay thx
[08:45] <intelikey> michael__ and for all the above you need root perms.    sudo them
[08:45] <michael__> yeh
[08:46] <intelikey> !dpkg
[08:46] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[08:48] <intelikey> ok i'm ready for the releaf pitcher.   who can help these newcommers while i snooze ?
[08:48] <Ichilegend> Wassup?
[08:48] <intelikey> come on don't be shy
[08:48] <wolferine> i will
[08:48] <RawSewage> I dont like helping people
[08:48] <Ichilegend> Here 4 u intelikey
[08:48] <RawSewage> It makes me break out
[08:48] <KevinAlaska> heh.. poor intelikey.. duty is strong. :)
[08:48] <intelikey> ok thanks guy.   and good night.
[08:49] <Ichilegend> ;)
[08:49] <wolferine> guy?
[08:49] <KevinAlaska> sleep well intelikey
[08:49] <KevinAlaska> doh.. to late
[08:50] <epimeth> intellikey is jewish?
[08:50] <epimeth> awesome... I'm not alone! :-)
[08:50] <Ichilegend> Mazeltov
[08:51] <epimeth> luck has nothing to do with it! :-p
[08:51] <Ichilegend> lol
[08:51] <epimeth> and its mazal, not mazel :-)
[08:51] <Ichilegend> not jewish, just wishing you both well
[08:52] <epimeth> I'm just trying to teach you the proper terminology
[08:52] <Ichilegend> I have been learned
[08:53] <insmod> anyone know why forward never works with e-mail in mozilla or thunderbird etc ?
[08:53] <Ichilegend> I am sure it works at least some times or it would not be a "feature"
[08:54] <epimeth> *cough*bug*cough*
[08:54] <insmod> Ichilegend: nope on every distro in 11 yrs no
[08:54] <epimeth> actually, I've never used thunderbird so I wouldn't know
[08:54] <insmod> Ichilegend: i just sends new reply not previous pics or messages
[08:54] <epimeth> there any way to run javascript from the command line?
[08:55] <insmod> it
[08:55] <epimeth> you sure it doesn't send it as an attachment?
[08:55] <insmod> epimeth: nope
[08:55] <Cruzader> epimeth: sudo apt-get install js (i believe, if not load up adept and search for javascript)
[08:55] <Ichilegend> hmm, let me set it up and check
[08:55] <insmod> epimeth: it is the attachments i want sent
[08:56] <Ichilegend> you ever use evo;ution?
[08:57] <Ichilegend> evoution?
[08:57] <insmod> it only sends a reply not the previouse attachment or message
[08:57] <epimeth> evolution!  away evil gnome fellow!
[08:57] <epimeth> kmail all the way, baby!
[08:57] <insmod> Ichilegend: evolution ya -- but it is for the wife
[08:58] <Ichilegend> lol fair enough, but it is a great package and supports exchange (for those of us in corporate IT)
[08:58] <epimeth> yea... waiting eagerly for kmail to do so as well
[08:59] <kraut> moin
[08:59] <epimeth> when I'll need to connect to exchange I'll have to use evolution :-(
[08:59] <insmod> Ichilegend: i am a debian guy that runs enligh.. and window maker black box etc -- i put kubuntu on hers because she likes kde
[08:59] <Ichilegend> ok, installing thinderbird
[09:00] <epimeth> in adept, whats with the kubuntu icon between the package and status columns?
[09:00] <Ichilegend> Oh hells yah, KDE is the cats meyow, but that does not mean there are not a few good gtk apps aout there
[09:00] <Zabulus> ok, where was i?
[09:00] <insmod> epimeth: apt-get is the man :)
[09:01] <epimeth> I agree, but when searching I prefer adept
[09:01] <insmod> Ichilegend: gtk-gnutella :)
[09:01] <Cruzader> epimeth: that means its officially supported by kubuntu IIRC
[09:01] <Captain_Haddock> epimeth: you can use synaptic too.. I find adept painstakingly slow.
[09:01] <Captain_Haddock> epimeth: Girls? :P
[09:02] <insmod> lol
[09:02] <Ichilegend> L O L
[09:02] <epimeth> adept runs blazingly fast for me... on slower machines I opt for aptitude
[09:02] <Zabulus> anyone know about any problems with feisty and microsoft mice?
[09:02] <epimeth> Captain_Haddock: and if I was???? you shouldn't make fun of people's allergies!
[09:02] <wolferine> Zabulus, symptoms?
[09:02] <Captain_Haddock> epimeth: :D
[09:02] <Zabulus> mouse randomly locks up
[09:03] <epimeth> sooo... rhino or ngs-js?
[09:03] <Zabulus> i was asking about it earlier, but i had to go afk and i cant scroll up to look for responses......
[09:03] <wolferine> Zabulus, combo, or just the mouse?
[09:03] <epimeth> Zabulus: you tried a non-ms mouse?  my ms optical doesn't give me any problems
[09:04] <Zabulus> just the mouse
[09:04] <Zabulus> microsoft laser mouse 6000 v1.0
[09:04] <Zabulus> works for a little, then just stops
[09:05] <Ichilegend> ok weird shutdown but thunderbird is installed
[09:05] <wolferine> added it to a currnt install?
[09:05] <wolferine> or a new install?
[09:05] <Zabulus> just installed feisty, was using dapper, worked fine with dapper
[09:05] <Zabulus> went into feisty, tried opening up adept, mouse froze
[09:07] <Zabulus> anyone have any ideas?
[09:07] <insmod> Zabulus: nvidia ? they have had some glx issues in the new one
[09:08] <epimeth> soooo... again..... rhino or ngs-js?
[09:08] <Zabulus> how do i get it fixed, or dont i?
[09:09] <insmod> Zabulus: do you have  nvidia ? it was a guess
[09:09] <Zabulus> an nvidia graphics, yes
[09:09] <Zabulus> but why does that f up the mouse?
[09:09] <insmod> Zabulus: lol
[09:10] <insmod> Zabulus: try disabling glx in xorg if that works then you know
[09:10] <insmod> Zabulus: 3d accel
[09:11] <Zabulus> ummm, how do i do that?
[09:11] <insmod> Zabulus: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and hash out option glx
[09:12] <monzie> Hi all
[09:12] <monzie> i am on kubuntu 7.04
[09:12] <monzie> how do i enable beryl/compiz on my laptop?
[09:12] <monzie> i have an ATI Radeon X200
[09:12] <Zabulus> ok, how do i get xorg.conf open without mouse?
[09:13] <insmod> Zabulus: in gui or console ?
[09:13] <Cruzader> Zabulus: is the only problem that your mouse cursor is invisible?
[09:13] <Zabulus> no, my cursor is visible, it just wont move
[09:13] <Cruzader> oh. hehe
[09:13] <Cruzader> well you could drop to a text console
[09:13] <Cruzader> ctrl alt f1
[09:13] <Zabulus> however i can open the file to edit it without mouse
[09:13] <insmod> Zabulus: all the time or does it stop ?
[09:15] <OlliK> Mroning, y'all
[09:15] <epimeth> OlliK: Mroning to you too!
[09:15] <KevinAlaska> GOOD Morning! :)
[09:15] <OlliK> How can I make application to run as a service, or start automatically when computer is started?
[09:16] <Ichilegend> OK, thunderbird problem, i did not have a problem
[09:16] <insmod> OlliK: /etc/init.d
[09:16] <epimeth> OlliK: depends on the app as well
[09:16] <OlliK> ventrilo server, and few eggdrop bots
[09:16] <insmod> OlliK: :P
[09:17] <monzie> help
[09:17] <insmod> bugger off
[09:17] <Zabulus> well, so far feisty is annoying the s*** out of me
[09:17] <OlliK> I tried to look at System Settings -> Services but can't add any there :/
[09:17] <monzie> https://wiki.kubuntu.com/BerylOnFeisty?highlight=%28beryl%29 points me to
[09:17] <monzie> https://wiki.kubuntu.com/RestrictedDriversManager
[09:17] <monzie> but https://wiki.kubuntu.com/RestrictedDriversManager is empty
[09:17] <monzie> how do i get my ati driver?
[09:18] <Ichilegend> add remove the chhose ATI binary
[09:18] <Ichilegend> then choose
[09:18] <Cruzader> kubuntu doesnt come with the restricted-drivers-manager
[09:19] <epimeth> OlliK: so take a look at /etc/rc.d
[09:19] <KevinAlaska> Bah... getting late for me. have a wonderful day/night everyone.
[09:20] <Zabulus> well, my mouse is working, for now
[09:20] <Cruzader> monzie: go to a console and type sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[09:20] <Zabulus> so, how do i get amarok to play mp3 files?
[09:20] <Ichilegend> I have been recommending to friends to Step 2 install ubuntu, step 2 sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop  therefore the get the apps like restricted drivers
[09:20] <Cruzader> which should download the video driver manager
[09:20] <Ichilegend> sorry , step 1 then step 2
[09:20] <epimeth> !codec | Zabulus
[09:20] <ubotu> Zabulus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:21] <insmod> Zabulus: install the package
[09:22] <Zabulus> which package?
[09:22] <insmod> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=kubuntu+%2B+amarok+%2B+mp3&spell=1
[09:22] <Zabulus> nvm
[09:22] <Cruzader> monzie: everything working so far?
[09:22] <OlliK> I didn't find rc.d from /etc
[09:22] <monzie> Cruzader: i already had restriced manager
[09:22] <OlliK> do you mean /etc/init.d/rc.local?
[09:22] <monzie> Cruzader: i backed up my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:23] <Cruzader> have you run it?
[09:23] <monzie> i ran restricted-manager and i checked the ATI tickbox
[09:23] <Cruzader> ok
[09:23] <epimeth> OlliK: rcN.d
[09:23] <epimeth> where N is the runlevel you want
[09:23] <monzie> Cruzader: not it's installing the driver
[09:23] <epimeth> those are the scripts that autorun
[09:24] <OlliK> epimeth: I have to make a script? I don't know how to do it
[09:24] <OlliK> epimeth: I was hoping I could just add the path to the executable in some file...
[09:24] <insmod> epimeth: why help -- that is why i love #linuxhelp we don't help eggdropers
[09:25] <insmod> OlliK: then learn
[09:25] <Ichilegend> BTW, thunderbird forward issue worked very well
[09:25] <epimeth> OlliK: you don't have to write a script, you just create a symlink to the existing script :-)
[09:25] <insmod> Ichilegend: pictures etc
[09:26] <epimeth> OlliK: they are symlinks to /etc/init.d
[09:26] <OlliK> epimeth: yep.. well my program is not located there so I don't know how to do it
[09:26] <epimeth> insmod: thats not very nice... why do we have to ignore non kubuntu-specific queries?
[09:27] <insmod> epimeth: what the hell man :P
[09:27] <OlliK> doesn't Kubuntu have any graphical interface for adding programs to start while starting the system?
[09:27] <epimeth> thats for making me think you were serious!
[09:27] <epimeth> :-p
[09:27] <insmod> epimeth: as harm to the servers you speek on
[09:27] <tyyy> hi all
[09:27] <tyyy> does anybody know what this is? Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
[09:27] <tyyy> xorg.log tells me that
[09:28] <epimeth> OlliK: then what you want aren't services
[09:28] <OlliK> insmod: Harm? in what way?
[09:28] <insmod> epimeth: fuck you i would rather a safe distro
[09:28] <epimeth> ???
[09:28] <OlliK> insmod: My eggdrop is in IRCnet and EFnet so I don't think it would affect Freenet servers in any way.. and what's wrong with bots?
[09:29] <OlliK> epimeth: Yep I guess just a startup would be enough, as long as it doesn't shut down the program when I exit X for example
[09:29] <epimeth> oh!!! damn.... my bad insmod... I didn't know what he was doing....
[09:29] <monzie> how do i check for what ports are open in my machine?
[09:29] <OlliK> epimeth: I told earlier that I'm trying to make ventrilo server and bot to start automatically.. but what's up with the anti-bot attitudes here?
[09:30] <epimeth> OlliK: it depends on the bot
[09:30] <epimeth> but either way, I really don't know... never dealt with irc servers or bots
[09:30] <OlliK> epimeth: My bot is purely serving in multiple channels to keep them and share operator status to channel operators.. I don't know what's wrong with that
[09:31] <OlliK> epimeth: But the issue in general has nothing to do with IRC servers or bots, because it could be just any program that I'm trying to execute automatically while starting Kubuntu
[09:31] <tyyy> is there anybody who can help me?
[09:31] <monzie> i have ati drivers installed
[09:31] <monzie> beryl is installed
[09:32] <monzie> yet beryl refuses to wrok
[09:32] <tyyy> monzie
[09:32] <tyyy> is aiglx running?
[09:32] <tyyy> or yet better wich drivers do you use?
[09:32] <monzie> tyyy: how do i know if aiglx is running"?
[09:32] <monzie> tyyy: it does say direct rendering: yes
[09:33] <tyyy> ok dri is running
[09:33] <Zabulus> !wine
[09:33] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:33] <tyyy> is beryl starting up?
[09:33] <epimeth> OlliK: but thats just it, like I said it depends on the program
[09:33] <service> can i make a shortcut on the desktop for konsole? but when it starts to make a command
[09:33] <tyyy> are you runing kubuntu or ubuntu?
[09:33] <monzie> tyyy:  nope
[09:33] <monzie> tyyy: i have ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <OlliK> epimeth: What different options there are for different kind of programs?
[09:34] <tyyy> do you see the bery manager icon?
[09:34] <tyyy> beryl
[09:34] <epimeth> OlliK: services exist in /etc/init.d
[09:34] <OlliK> epimeth: Basically ventrilo is a voice communication program, similar to TeamSpeak, which servers as a host to multiple clients who connect to it to talk with voice chat..
[09:34] <tyyy> its a red ruby
[09:34] <epimeth> OlliK: those are what can/do run at startup, before you log in
[09:35] <epimeth> tyyy: are there rubies that aren't red? :-)
[09:35] <OlliK> epimeth: And the bot is just a program that connects to IRC and joins to the channels it has been set to join, and keeps the channel in order
[09:35] <monzie> tyyy: i do see it
[09:35] <monzie> but selecting beryl/compiz
[09:35] <tyyy> yes there are youll wonder but its true
[09:35] <monzie> does nothing
[09:35] <OlliK> epimeth: ok, thanks, I'll try to look more into that init.d
[09:35] <epimeth> OlliK: you might have to write a script
[09:36] <epimeth> OlliK: take a look at some of the ones that are already there
[09:36] <tyyy> ok then click there and select windowmanager beryl
[09:36] <monzie> tyyy: i am doing that
[09:36] <tyyy> is emerald runing?
[09:36] <monzie> tyyy: the screen flashes, all windows redraw themselves
[09:36] <monzie> but i dont see the beryl startup screen
[09:36] <monzie> nor do i see any effects
[09:36] <tyyy> you dont need to see the startupscreen
[09:36] <monzie> tyyy: i dont see emerald as well
[09:37] <tyyy> usually it is by default turned off
[09:37] <tyyy> go to the red ruby and tell me what is in windowmanager selected
[09:37] <monzie> tyyy: its kwin now
[09:37] <tyyy> is emerald available?
[09:37] <monzie> tyyy: nope
[09:38] <tyyy> then you must install it
[09:38] <monzie> tyyy: beryl, compize, kwin, metacity
[09:38] <tyyy> apt-get install emerald in konsole
[09:38] <monzie> tyyy:
[09:38] <monzie> manish@freedom:~$ sudo apt-get install emerald
[09:38] <monzie> Reading package lists... Done
[09:38] <monzie> Building dependency tree
[09:38] <monzie> Reading state information... Done
[09:38] <monzie> emerald is already the newest version.
[09:38] <monzie> emerald set to manual installed.
[09:38] <tyyy> ah sorry
[09:39] <tyyy> i mean window decorator
[09:39] <tyyy> what is there selected?
[09:39] <paul__> !nvidia
[09:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:40] <monzie> tyyy: i selected emerald
[09:40] <monzie> no point
[09:40] <monzie> it's not working
[09:40] <tyyy> when you try to open beryl settings manager does it work?
[09:40] <Zabulus> hmm, is there something easier than wine?
[09:43] <tyyy> yes beer
[09:43] <tyyy> lol
[09:43] <monzie> tyyy: yes it opens
[09:43] <tyyy> wait monzie
[09:43] <monzie> tyyy: ok
[09:43] <tyyy> did you restart x?
[09:43] <tyyy> can you tell me what is now in windowmamger selected and in window decorator?
[09:43] <tyyy> actually i came here to ask for help lol
[09:43] <tyyy> can somebody help me?
[09:43] <monzie> tyyy: i rebooted my machine
[09:43] <tyyy> can you tell me what is now in windowmamger selected and in window decorator?
[09:44] <Zabulus> alright, need help with wine, trying to get ragnarok(private server) to work
[09:45] <tyyy> what is the problem?
[09:45] <tyyy> ill liste to it maybe i know what it is
[09:45] <monzie> tyyy: what do i do now?
[09:45] <monzie> i restarted x
[09:45] <tyyy> i cant promise to
[09:45] <monzie> it still does not work
[09:45] <tyyy> can you tell me what is now in windowmamger selected and in window decorator?
[09:45] <monzie> win manager = Kwin
[09:46] <monzie> window decorator = grayed out
[09:46] <tyyy> change to beryl and emerald once
[09:46] <monzie> tyy: i tried, to no avail
[09:46] <tyyy> and then check again and tell me what is selected
[09:46] <monzie> tyyy: all windows lose their decorations for a second
[09:46] <monzie> tyyy: and then they come back to the original state
[09:46] <monzie> (kwin) again
[09:47] <monzie> no window decorator gets selected
[09:47] <tyyy> go to a terminal
[09:47] <tyyy> and type glxinfo
[09:47] <monzie> is my radeon express not supported?
[09:57] <monzie> tyyy: yeah i did
[09:57] <monzie> direct rendering is on, if that is what you're askin
[09:57] <tyyy> im not sure, but you should be usually better off then me with intel. but i got it running
[09:57] <tyyy> just make it sure please
[09:57] <tyyy> check it again
[09:57] <monzie> tyyy: output of glxinfo
[09:57] <monzie> http://pastebin.ca/499817
[09:57] <monzie> tyyy: am i better off with xgl?
[09:57] <tyyy> well fact is its not running
[09:57] <monzie> tyyy: yeah
[09:57] <tyyy> thats your problem
[09:57] <tyyy> i have no idea about radeon, but
[09:57] <tyyy> as much as i know its running with aiglx
[09:57] <tyyy> but you can try #beryl
[09:57] <tyyy> you have defenetly a driver problem
[09:57] <tyyy> hallo?
[09:57] <tyyy> is any body there
[09:57] <gnomefreak> tyyy: what can we/me help you with?
[09:57] <paul__> hi
[09:57] <paul__> can i have some help please?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> !ask
[09:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:57] <tyyy> does anybody know what this is? Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
[09:57] <paul__> lol
[09:57] <paul__> i tried to install the nvidia drivers
[09:57] <paul__> the -glx ones
[09:57] <tyyy> thats what im getting from xorg.0.log
[09:57] <paul__> and it killed my system
[09:57] <gnomefreak> tyyy: its not important as im assuming you get this with X
[09:57] <paul__> i had to do CRTL+F5 to get a terminal
[09:57] <tyyy> i had in mind
[09:57] <gnomefreak> paul__: what card?
[09:57] <Zabulus> when using wine, do you have to use an install exe, or can you use an exe that simply starts the game?
[09:57] <paul__> then i restored the config
[09:57] <paul__> nvidia 6600GT
[09:57] <tyyy> that could couse my freez state sometimes
[09:57] <gnomefreak> tyyy: look for things that start with [E] 
[09:57] <tyyy> and then only a reset works
[09:57] <gnomefreak> paul__: nvidia-glx-new is the one you want iirc
[09:57] <paul__> oh ic, i'll give that a try
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Zabulus: install i believe but i dont use wine
[09:57] <Zabulus> is there something better i can use? or do i not have much choice?
[09:57] <tyyy> ok no error with E thx alot
[09:57] <tyyy> zabulus
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Zabulus: cedega but again never used it
[09:57] <tyyy> what is the problem exactly?
[09:57] <Zabulus> isnt cedega the one that charges?
[10:11] <horde> Hi. Can anyone give me some ideas as to why I can't connect to localhost in Firefox, Konqueror, etc.?  Thanks
[10:11] <tyyy> ?
[10:11] <tyyy> what do you want to do?
[10:12] <tyyy> im not sure if i get the question right
[10:12] <rbrunhuber> horde : are you really having problems to connect in firefox?
[10:12] <rbrunhuber> horde : I only have this in konqueror if knetworkmanager is thinking to be offline.
[10:13] <horde> knetworkmanager is online, and firefox can connect to other external web pages, but not to localhost on my machine
[10:14] <horde> I'm trying to connect to the SABnzb web interface
[10:14] <horde> It's served up on localhost
[10:14] <tyyy> maybe tis blocked
[10:14] <horde> how do I check that...sorry am a newb
[10:15] <rbrunhuber> horde : but is it plain localhost? no ports nothing else?
[10:15] <paul__> gnomefreak: I'm back :(, it didn't work.  Same problem, it started loading then went to a black screen with a cursor
[10:15] <horde> yeah, localhost:8080
[10:15] <horde> I've tried switching ports
[10:15] <rbrunhuber> horde : open a terminal and use netstat -an |grep LISTEN
[10:16] <rbrunhuber> horde : look if someone is listening on 127.0.0.1:8080 or :8080 or ffff:8080
[10:18] <Ahmuck> why is kubuntu using mDNS ?
[10:18] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : Why not?
[10:18] <horde> Did netstat....doesn't look like anything else is on that port.
[10:18] <Ahmuck> because it creates a lot of traffic
[10:19] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : It should only do if you are in "avahi" mode
[10:19] <Ahmuck> is there a reason i should be in avahi mode?
[10:19] <horde> at least it doesn't lot explicitly anything listening on port 8080
[10:19] <horde> sorry, lot=list
[10:20] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : If you have no network connection with dns and no static ip address then you are in avahi mode. You should have a 169.x.y.z ip address then.
[10:21] <Ahmuck> no network connection with dns, as in my isp dns server is borken?
[10:21] <Ahmuck> i have a good ip address
[10:21] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : and you have no nick with a 169 address?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> paul__: what ubuntu version? can you pastebin the errors in the log file? did you ever use the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com on this system?
[10:21] <Ahmuck> correct
[10:22] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : And your local domain name is ends not in .local?
[10:22] <Ahmuck> correct
[10:22] <service> !scanner
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[10:23] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : So what do you mean with "mdns is causing a lot of traffic"?
[10:23] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : brb
[10:23] <service> !cinvert
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[10:23] <Ahmuck> k, why would i need avahi?  it appears that ps -ax is showing two processes with avahi
[10:23] <service> !mp3
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[10:24] <horde> How can I check if "localhost:8080" is blocked?
[10:26] <horde> better yet, how can I check thru bash if something on my machine is running a service (gui interface) on localhost:8080?
[10:31] <mo0osah> I uninstalled some themes from superkaramba and now when I go back to install them... i says they're already installed
[10:32] <rbrunhuber> horde: netstat -an should show you if a service is listening on :8080
[10:32] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : Do you use the easy file transfer applet in kde?
[10:33] <rbrunhuber> horde : What service do you want to use?
[10:33] <horde> I'm running SABnzb and direct it's interface to localhost:8080
[10:34] <Ahmuck> rbrunhuber: no
[10:34] <rbrunhuber> horde : Don't know this. What is SABnzb?
[10:34] <horde> it's a usenet binary downloader
[10:34] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : What do you mean that mdns is causing a lot of traffic?
[10:35] <rbrunhuber> horde : is this using apache or inet.d ?
[10:35] <alesan> hi
[10:35] <horde> rbrunhuber: netstat -an doesn't list anything on localhost:8080
[10:36] <alesan> where can I read the difference between desktop and alternate?
[10:36] <horde> rbrunhuber: sorry, I have no idea...how do I check?
[10:36] <Ahmuck> http://www.net.princeton.edu/filters/mdns.html
[10:37] <rbrunhuber> horde : did you adapt any configuration files?
[10:38] <horde> rbrunhuber: yes, it has it's own config file
[10:38] <horde> rbrunhuber: but that's the only one I touched for this program
[10:39] <horde> rbrunhuber: strange thing is...sometimes it works and not others
[10:39] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : But what is your problem with this?
[10:39] <Ahmuck> i am getting serious lockups and trying to reduce anything that may be causing it
[10:40] <Ahmuck> it almost feels like windows
[10:40] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : So why don't you just kick the processes out then?
[10:40] <Ahmuck> my bigger problem, is why a service is bieng started when it does not need to be
[10:40] <Ahmuck> i can do that easy enough, but why should it be enabled anyway ?
[10:41] <Ahmuck> it seems less secure
[10:41] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : the easiest but most time consuming way is to just disable all services or daemons you don't need.
[10:42] <harmental> hi everybody......since my upgrade to feisty one month ago i've have a problem with my wireless connection (via PCMCIA)....i wont autoconnect at startup....
[10:42] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : Or you don't know and look if something is no longer working.
[10:42] <harmental> i have to use wirelesslan everybody.....which is kind of annoying...
[10:42] <harmental> the thing is that it worked like a charm with edgy....
[10:42] <harmental> any ideas?
[10:43] <rbrunhuber> horde : is there a service running which is called sab* ?
[10:43] <horde> yes
[10:44] <horde> it's definitely working...I'm pulling down files...but I just can't connect to it's interface
[10:49] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : To answer you question: AFAIK There were long discussions about avahi on the devel list. The result was that avahi is restricted to local addresses and .local domain (means if you got no address and have no static address). The concerns of princeton are that other os manufacturers have no such restriction.
[10:50] <rbrunhuber> Ahmuck : so you have a lot of broadcast traffic because every connected mac announces all his services via broad/multicast. Which causes a lot of traffic.
[10:50] <pisq> roconner, how goes it where you are?
[11:03] <monzie> Detected xserver                                : AIGLX
[11:03] <monzie> Checking Display :0 ...
[11:03] <monzie> Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[11:03] <monzie> No composite extension
[11:03] <monzie> beryl: No composite extension
[11:03] <monzie> this is the output i get after i run beryl-manager from console
[11:04] <youbuntu> hello : occasionally when start up and log in, my email, or web browser doesn't work. Though I can ping a extranal ip address. shutting down and rebooting once or twice fixes the problem - any ideas?
[11:04] <benjamin> hi all, where do I assign file-extensions to programms in kubuntu?
[11:06] <aenna> hi!
[11:07] <aenna> i want to know how i can launch apps one after another
[11:08] <aenna> i used a batch
[11:08] <aenna> like *.bat in ms-dos
[11:08] <harmental> hi everybody......since my upgrade to feisty one month ago i've have a problem with my wireless connection (via PCMCIA)....i wont autoconnect at startup....
[11:09] <aenna> but here i want to launch apps but i need them not to ble closed when i launcjh the next one
[11:09] <harmental> i have to use wirelesslan everytime.....which is kind of annoying...
[11:09] <benjamin> aenna: name the file XXX.sh
[11:09] <harmental> the thing is that it worked like a charm with edgy....
[11:09] <harmental> any ideas?
[11:09] <monzie> hi all
[11:09] <aenna> ok thanks haremental
[11:09] <benjamin> aenna: and it must be executable
[11:09] <monzie> is there a way i can check which ports are open in ubuntu?
[11:11] <aenna> benjamin i used that but my problem is that with that method i must wait to kill tha app to run next one
[11:12] <aenna> *the
[11:12] <aenna> its a problem whith kiba-dock
[11:13] <aenna> for example if i run it on a terminal i must close it to if i want the terminalt to let mi execute another thing
[11:17] <benjamin> aenna: use && betwean the programmnames
[11:17] <aenna> ok
[11:17] <aenna> thankyou
[11:19] <hw_> How can I prevent that Xorg generates a new xorg.conf if I change the graphic(s)?
[11:19] <hw_> ...graphic cards
[11:21] <benjamin> aenna: if you use programm & you could still use the console
[11:22] <benjamin> aenna: but be aware, that if you close the console every executed prog gets killed . .
[11:24] <PhinnFort> lol
[11:24] <PhinnFort> the executed gets killed
[11:24] <PhinnFort> :P
[11:28] <aenna> benjamin now with  & it works perfect
[11:28] <aenna> tahnkyou very much!
[11:29] <luxio4> hello
[11:29] <luxio4> ciao
[11:29] <luxio4> can anyone help me to install UBUNTU?
[11:29] <epimeth> anybody here a webdev?
[11:29] <luxio4> i haven't portable media
[11:29] <luxio4> i would like to install from internet UBUNTU replacing the current OS ( mandrake )
[11:30] <epimeth> luxio4: download the iso, burn it, and install! :-)
[11:30] <luxio4> is there a CLICK from internet without burns and portable media?
[11:30] <epimeth> luxio4: nope
[11:31] <epimeth> luxio4: you can't magically install an os :-)
[11:31] <luxio4> i want replace all in my hdd is there a micro distro i can download and start that replaces all and install automatically UBUNTU?
[11:31] <epimeth> luxio4: you always need a disk of some sort
[11:31] <luxio4> nahhh why do you think OLD? Portable media are OLD
[11:31] <luxio4> i have INTERNET connection and i want don't waste my time reading or interpreting scripts
[11:32] <luxio4> i want just CLICK and GO with an UBUNTU installation
[11:32] <luxio4> i tried LUBI but it's always the same ... dependencies... strange errors ... and finally when all seems ok
[11:32] <luxio4> GRUB doesn't show the UBUNTU item in the menu
[11:33] <luxio4> so i m looking for and EASY brain that let install UBUNTU with a simple CLICK replacing all in the HD windows , linux or other
[11:33] <epimeth> luxio4: I guess you create a partition and put all the files there manually, but I don't know how you would do that
[11:33] <luxio4> is there a little distro that starts and assuring the network connection install ubuntu?
[11:33] <luxio4> MANUALLY??????
[11:34] <epimeth> yea
[11:34] <epimeth> I'v never heard of someone wanting to do what you want
[11:34] <luxio4> naahhhh we are in 2007 3D view and so on ( WINDOWS SVISTA ahah ) and you talk about "Manually"!!!!!
[11:35] <luxio4> when you dowload a PROGRAM  from internet maybe you burn a CD to run IT???
[11:35] <luxio4> *do
[11:36] <epimeth> you capitalized it wonderfully
[11:36] <epimeth> PROGRAM
[11:36] <luxio4> you donwload at least compile and then RUN
[11:36] <epimeth> no try OPERATING SYSTEM
[11:36] <epimeth> s/no/now
[11:36] <luxio4> the cool of linux is the DISTRO
[11:36] <luxio4> you have lot of DISTRO
[11:36] <luxio4> but internet == mega CD ROM
[11:37] <luxio4> internet == mega pen drive
[11:37] <luxio4> so why do you need to burn
[11:37] <luxio4> LIVE CD is a great thing
[11:37] <luxio4> i want LIVE INTERNET
[11:37] <epimeth> then go off and make one
[11:37] <luxio4> but this is not possible because internet is slowwwww
[11:37] <epimeth> closest thing to what you want is network boot
[11:38] <luxio4> so i want only a little click to REPLACE all in my HDD
[11:38] <luxio4> and not lot of strange documentations about "Installation Methods ...."
[11:38] <luxio4> i want network boot for ubuntu YEAH
[11:38] <epimeth> look... I'm starving so I'm going down for lunch.  what you want is great, unfortunately beyond what is currently available
[11:39] <epimeth> network boot is only for the local network
[11:39] <epimeth> and you need a server for the os loader
[11:39] <epimeth> this probably exists
[11:39] <epimeth> but you'd need to install it
[11:39] <epimeth> by downloading the cd and installing
[11:39] <luxio4> local network for start up but i need only a micro distro to download the ubuntu iso and to install it automatically
[11:40] <luxio4> LUBI seems to do it but i used it and it doesn't seems robust
[11:40] <epimeth> then get the base download for debian and replace all the repos with ubuntu ones
[11:41] <epimeth> but again, I'm going to go eat
[11:41] <epimeth> good luck
[11:41] <luxio4> good meal
[11:41] <epimeth> cheers
[11:41] <luxio4> neutrinux ciao
[11:42] <luxio4> Gran Sasso
[11:42] <luxio4> do you know the Gran Sasso in Italy where neutrinus are observed?
[11:43] <luxio4> oki at the end it's not possible to install UBUNTU without a removable media or without strange scripts
[11:43] <luxio4> i hope in the future
[11:44] <Neutrinux> luxio4: of course i know!!
[11:45] <luxio4> you know :))
[11:45] <luxio4> i live at 50 mn from there
[11:45] <luxio4> min
[11:48] <Neutrinux> o ok cool. living 600km from the lhc where the neutrino beam is created (geneve)!! and this sommer having hollyday at napoli so not far from u! but all of this is out the subject of this chan
[11:48] <Neutrinux> ;)
[11:49] <ozzi> hi
[11:49] <ozzi> i just figured out how to get this thing working
[11:50] <ozzi> i think...
[11:50] <ozzi> anybody here?
[11:50] <nuu> only 388 persons
[11:50] <nuu> :)
[11:50] <ozzi> yeah, i noticed that now
[11:51] <ozzi> this is mi first irc in windows or linux
[11:51] <zapp> i can't run adept manager anymore. someone know wich are the proceses that use adept database?
[11:52] <nuu> welcome then ozzi
[11:52] <ozzi> thanks
[11:52] <ozzi> nice to be here
[11:53] <nuu> :)
[11:53] <ozzi> by the way do es anybody knw if i can command beryl from console?
[11:53] <ozzi> or scripts?
[11:54] <Lynoure> zapp: apt and aptitude at least. Check with ps -A, for example
[11:55] <zapp> thx! i try
[12:01] <ozzi> ...
[12:02] <ubuntu> hi there
[12:02] <ozzi> greetings
[12:08] <zapp> irc kubuntu italia
[12:20] <stranger_> hello, I have a small problem connecting with Konqueror to an ftp server of a webspace provider. the login is in the following format "login@hostname/dir" (that is just the login) does anybody know any solution? thanks
[12:20] <NiceGuyUK> stranger_: what is the problem you're getting?
[12:21] <stranger_> the error is "login incorrect" .. with the console ftp it works ok.
[12:21] <nuu> does it ask for a password somewhere ?
[12:22] <stevec__> anyone know how to disable join and leave message on irssi?
[12:22] <NiceGuyUK> stranger_: you could try the format ftp://username:password@hostname
[12:23] <NiceGuyUK> also, some FTP connections need you to omit the /dir part until after you've logged in
[12:23] <stranger_> @nuu .. it asks also for a pass but I guess that is not the problem as it connects fine with the standart ftp
[12:23] <nuu> stranger_: "login incorrect" means you either type in the wrong username, or the wrong password
[12:24] <NiceGuyUK> agreed
[12:24] <nuu> stranger_: or that, in a very unlucky case, you're accessing the wrong host which coincidentially has the ftp service up and running, and therefore not accepting you, being an unkown user
[12:24] <nuu> stranger_: i'd double check user, host, and password :)
[12:24] <stranger_> with the standart url notation the whole login looks like this "ftp://username@hostname/dir:pass@hostname" .. i guess I am looking for a way to substitute the @
[12:25] <nuu> that's wrong, stranger_
[12:25] <nuu> it's user:pass@host/dir
[12:25] <nuu> not user@host/dir:pass
[12:25] <youbuntu> !ubuntu
[12:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:26] <stevec__> ^
[12:26] <stevec__>  use_msgs_window = OFF
[12:26] <stevec__> oops :-)
[12:26] <stranger_> my problem is that the login is exactly : "name@hostname/dir"
[12:26] <nuu> stranger_: try escaping the @ character as \@ then
[12:26] <nuu> and the / too, as \/
[12:27] <NiceGuyUK> nasty logon - I blame the ISP admins
[12:27] <stranger_> :) will try that thanks
[12:27] <nuu> NiceGuyUK: totally agreed
[12:27] <stranger_> :-) i am considering switching
[12:28] <nuu> NiceGuyUK: i can understand giving my users a per-domain logon, involving the @ symbol, but using a pathname in a logon is like
[12:28] <NiceGuyUK> also you could try just ftp://hostname and wait for Konqeror to prompt you for username/password in the dialogue box. May work tidier
[12:28] <nuu> incredibly stupid :)
[12:28] <youbuntu> occasionally when start up and log in, my email, or web browser doesn't work (no external connection). Though I can ping a external ip address. shutting down and rebooting once or twice fixes the problem - any ideas?
[12:29] <NiceGuyUK> nuu: reminds me of the guy I know who wanted the address admin@atatdotdot.com
[12:29] <stranger_> ok 10x for the ideas will try them
[12:29] <nuu> could be a nameserver issue youbuntu, make sure your /etc/resolv.conf is correctly setup before you try accessing the outside network
[12:29] <nuu> NiceGuyUK: hehe
[12:33] <youbuntu> nuu : thanks looking at it now ( it's working though). how many IPs should be in there?
[12:34] <youbuntu> do u have a simple explaination of this file?
[12:34] <nuu> youbuntu: do you know how dns works ?
[12:35] <youbuntu> nuu: a little dns looks up domain names and converts ti ip addresses - yes?
[12:36] <nuu> precisely
[12:36] <nuu> so youbuntu, basically that file lists the address of dns servers which will be used for such conversion
[12:37] <nuu> so if you can access the network (you say pinging an ip works), but you can't browse the web (where you most likely use a hostname, and not an ip), then probably the dns isn't correctly setup
[12:37] <youbuntu> nuu: ok so the ip addresses there are the dns's i am using
[12:37] <nuu> ie your machine isn't correctly resolving hostnames to ips
[12:37] <youbuntu> why would be - sometimes
[12:37] <nuu> thus apparently crippling your connectivity, while you really are connected, just unable to access the network using hostnames
[12:38] <nuu> youbuntu: resolv.conf lists the nameserver(s) used by your connection to perform such dns lookup
[12:38] <nuu> therefore if one or more of those nameservers have a connection problem, you have a connection problem too as a consequence of dns lookup failures
[12:38] <nuu> is that clear enough ?
[12:38] <NiceGuyUK> worth noting - some NetGear routers incorrectly overwrite the resolv.conf file.  I had to use root to make it unwritable to get around this.
[12:39] <youbuntu> so my router could be the issue?
[12:39] <NiceGuyUK> youbuntu: theoretically possible. it kept overwriting my DNS to 192.168.0.1
[12:40] <youbuntu> i'm using a d-link adsl modem
[12:40] <NiceGuyUK> I only have experience of netgear ones
[12:40] <nuu> youbuntu: well, if that's the case, then you need to properly configure the dns server being given to dhcp clients in your router
[12:41] <nuu> it's all down to configuration: probably NiceGuyUK's router was configured with 192.168.0.1 (which is a LAN ip, most likely a default ip in the factory default configuration), and thus his linux install kept using it as a nameserver
[12:41] <nuu> chances are if you configure your router to use a different (valid) nameserver ip, NiceGuyUK, the problem will solve itself as your router does not directly modify resolv.conf
[12:41] <nuu> it just instructs the dhcp client (your linux box, in your case), as to what the dns to use is
[12:42] <youbuntu> nuu, NiceGuyUK : thanks very much guys. You given me something to check.
[12:42] <nuu> if you set it up to use a valid ip, your linux box will write that address inside resolv.conf, and everything will work nicely
[12:42] <youbuntu> excellent
[12:42] <nuu> np youbuntu
[12:42] <youbuntu> :)] 
[12:56] <youbuntu> nuu , youbuntu : one more thing....when i said i could ping a external addess it was a .com adddress i typed ( not a ip address) doesn't that mean the dns was working?
[12:56] <nuu> it could mean it's working for some addresses and not others
[12:57] <nuu> or it could mean you had it in your local dns cache
[12:58] <youbuntu> ok ......(ping www.googlw.com worked)
[12:58] <nuu> anyhow, one way to make 100% sure that your dns is the issue, you can first of all get the ip for a website that typically doesnt work when the problem occurs
[12:58] <youbuntu> where is local dns cache?
[12:58] <youbuntu> ok
[12:58] <nuu> then when the problem actually occurs, and you can't access that website with its hostname
[12:58] <nuu> you try accessing it via its ip address
[12:59] <nuu> that's a sure bet that will help you rule out nameserver issues
[12:59] <nuu> of course, make sure the website actually displays something when clients use its ip address
[01:00] <nuu> because it's not always the case (hostnames can be used as a "virtual host" to redirect to one of a batch of co-hosted websites on a single server, being exposed to the internet with a single ip address)
[01:02] <youbuntu> yes ok ....... again thanks....i appreciate it!......i may have more (different??) questions later if u don't mind....
[01:02] <nuu> just join the channel and ask em ;) if i'm not around/dont know the answer, i'm sure you'll find plenty of helpful people here
[01:02] <ninHer> i need some help with ps3/yellow dog
[01:02] <nuu> just keep it on-topic ;)
[01:02] <ninHer> im stucked
[01:02] <ninHer> :-(
[01:03] <andre> hi all. not sure if I'm right here. how can I change the language interface for gtk-apps (like vlc-player) running in kde?
[01:05] <ninHer> andre look at packet manager and try find i18n and your language
[01:05] <andre> ninHer: thx!
[01:05] <ninHer> english woud be en and spanish would be es
[01:12] <youbuntu> is there a startup apps dir which lists apps that will auto start at login? (eg how do i make Kontact to auto start at login)
[01:18] <RawSewage> yes
[01:19] <RawSewage>  /home/you/.kde/AutoStart
[01:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[01:22] <youbuntu> RawSewage : so in there what file should reside for an app to start? (eg Kontact)
[01:22] <RawSewage> right click inside there
[01:22] <RawSewage> Link to Application
[01:23] <RawSewage> Create new...
[01:23] <RawSewage> Link to  App
[01:23] <youbuntu> RawSewage : thanks I'll try it now! :)
[01:35] <epimeth> any webdevs here?
[01:35] <RawSewage> sort of
[01:39] <Riddell> epimeth: webdevs?
[01:44] <youbuntu> RawSewage: me again tried it (autostart) it works but it's a manual process to setup. Is there a easier way to add a app to autostart?
[01:44] <RawSewage> youbuntu,  what do you mean, manual
[01:45] <youbuntu> is there a way for a basic (non techical) user to make a app autostart?
[01:45] <RawSewage> You go to that folder, right-clcik --  Add New-  Link to application
[01:46] <RawSewage> 3 fields to fill in
[01:46] <RawSewage> Kontact
[01:46] <RawSewage> and in the Application Tab...   Name:  Kontact
[01:46] <RawSewage> Command:  kontact
[01:46] <RawSewage> thats it
[01:47] <RawSewage> I dont know if there's an easier way
[01:48] <nuu> youbuntu: copy the app link to the .kde/Autostart directory under your home folder
[01:48] <youbuntu> yes that's a good idea
[01:49] <RawSewage> oh
[01:49] <youbuntu> I can do it - I just thinking of how would a 'office worker' handle doing that .....
[01:49] <youbuntu> the link would help
[01:49] <RawSewage> I didnt know about the drag and drop method
[01:50] <youbuntu> ah....even better
[01:51] <nuu> yep, drag and drop i meant. the application link is what appears in your kde menu
[01:52] <youbuntu> I have no probs handling the basic tech stuff ...i'm just thinking what i give it to a non tech person to do.
[01:52] <youbuntu> thanks guys
[01:53] <nuu> np
[02:17] <youbuntu> autostart drag/drop to creat link works great!
[02:19] <alexicon> anyone here run a photo gallery? know a good one on apt to get?
[02:20] <_6StringKng_> k, when I adjust my volume to 80% using my keyboard if I hover my mouse over kmix it says 77%?
[02:21] <alexicon> keyboard might be editing pcm and not master?
[02:22] <_6StringKng_> no clue, not a big deal, was just wondering
[02:23] <alexicon> yeah dunno what it might be. try opening alsamixer and watching what changes when you use the keyboard verse kmix
[02:29] <epimeth> any webdevs here?
[02:29] <youbuntu> #ubuntu
[02:32] <Tm_T> good morning BluesKaj
[02:33] <BluesKaj> hi Tm_T
[02:35] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: guess what, it's hot here
[02:35] <Tm_T> and a week or so ago it was snowing <3
[02:35] <epimeth> its been hot here for a while
[02:36] <epimeth> one of the perks of living in the holy land ^.^
[02:36] <BluesKaj> heh, cool here , might get up to 17C , but it is sunny ...this so called global warming isn't affecting us very much.
[02:36] <uft> Alguem fala Portugues?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> !pt
[02:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:36] <uft> ok
[02:36] <alexicon> global warming done us right last month
[02:36] <alexicon> bit chilly again for now though
[02:36] <uft> Thanks
[02:37] <alexicon> whole month of april over 18-20C everyday mmm
[02:37] <epimeth> see thats where you're wrong.... global warming is an average.  it might be cold and rainy where you are, but the areas that have always been hot and dry are even hotter and dryer
[02:37] <BluesKaj> alexicon, where are you ?
[02:37] <Jucato> !ot
[02:37] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:37] <alexicon> uk BluesKaj
[02:37] <Tm_T> this slow ssh is torturing me so see you later ->
[02:37] <BluesKaj> <--Canada
[02:37] <epimeth> Jucato: what up!  been a while :-)
[02:37] <alexicon> its gotten warmer and warmer year over the past 5 esp
[02:38] <alexicon> the winters have been getting warmer and shorter each year
[02:38] <Jucato> epimeth: hi :)
[02:38] <epimeth> you wouldn't happen to be a webdev mayhaps?
[02:38] <Jucato> epimeth: me? how I wish :D
[02:38] <BluesKaj> yes, ours was quite mild and very little snow.
[02:38] <epimeth> heh
[02:38] <epimeth> useless! all of you!
[02:38] <alexicon> anyone here run a web photo gallery? im lookin for a simple one thats easy to setup but will support my 5k+ images
[02:39] <epimeth> flikr, no?
[02:39] <BluesKaj> flickr
[02:39] <alexicon> 5000 images :P
[02:39] <alexicon> i dont wanna upload all that
[02:39] <BluesKaj> oooh
[02:39] <epimeth> oh, you want to host one?
[02:39] <epimeth> I'm sure there's something....
[02:39] <alexicon> just want to make them acessible from my website
[02:39] <alexicon> yeah
[02:39] <alexicon> im running jigl atm
[02:39] <alexicon> for just a small amount of the images
[02:39] <alexicon> nice easy perl script
[02:39] <BluesKaj> photobucket
[02:40] <alexicon> !photobucket
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about photobucket - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <epimeth> dunno about photos, but jinzora is awesome for music
[02:40] <alexicon> hrm
[02:40] <epimeth> :-)
[02:40] <alexicon> ooh nice
[02:41] <epimeth> speaking of easy perl scripts... there are like a million ways to make an http request with perl... anybody know which is preferred?
[02:42] <epimeth> geez... I ask a question and everybody runs :-(
[02:43] <alexicon> epimeth: how hard is the setup for jinzora, ive had awful luck with icecast
[02:43] <alexicon> id ask in #perl epimeth ;)
[02:43] <Jucato> epimeth: it seems it's not because you asked a question.. it's because you asked about perl :)
[02:44] <alexicon> heh
[02:45] <epimeth> and I have, too....
[02:45] <alexicon> oh does this jinzora work with shoutcast then..
[02:45] <epimeth> while(<>) {$|=1; print;}
[02:45] <epimeth> muahaha
[02:45] <epimeth> alexicon: I think so... I know it works with amarok :-)
[02:46] <alexicon> hrm
[02:46] <alexicon> ok
[02:46] <epimeth> I haven't set it up, but my friend has.... didn't say anything about any problems
[02:46] <alexicon> if this thing works with shoutcast, i might as well go back to icecast and mpdphp
[02:46] <Jucato> :s/epimeth/null/
[02:46] <Jucato> no perl :)
[02:46] <epimeth> Jucato.out > /dev/null
[02:47] <BluesKaj> amarok woeks well with shoutcast ...what's all the fuss about ?
[02:50] <mattimeo78> I have a quick question.
[02:50] <mattimeo78> How do I set a user to full access?
[02:51] <epimeth> mattimeo78: only root has full access
[02:51] <epimeth> you can give a user full sudo access
[02:51] <epimeth> see the /etc/sudoers file
[02:51] <mattimeo78> So I just sudo when a folder is asking for permission?
[02:54] <epimeth> sudo -i
[02:54] <epimeth> that will make you root
[02:54] <epimeth> then you can access any directory
[02:54] <epimeth> or do you mean in the gui?
[02:54] <mattimeo78> That would be helpful. I can't even delete broken folders.
[02:55] <epimeth> if so, you have to alt+f2 "kdesu konqueror" (or whatever file manager you use) and then put in your password
[02:55] <alexicon> did they get rid of the sudo group in feisty?
[02:56] <nuu> what do you mean, the sudo group ?
[02:56] <Jucato> alexicon: hm...I recall answering that question already... (can't remember when)
[02:56] <alexicon> on edgy i added myself to the sudo group
[02:56] <Jucato> alexicon: if you mean the sudoers group, it has always been the admin group in Kubuntu
[02:57] <alexicon> then i didnt have to type my password all the time
[02:57] <alexicon> on
[02:57] <alexicon> maybe its cos i moved over to ubuntu
[02:57] <Jucato> ah
[02:57] <Jucato> I think you can edit /etc/sudoers (using visudo) for that. I don't know how though
[02:57] <mattimeo78> SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual - Why is this?
[02:57] <okapi> hello to all
[02:57] <mattimeo78> Hello, Okapi.
[02:57] <nuu> alexicon: you can modify sudoers and add the NOPASSWD keyword to the group/user you don't want to input a password when sudo'ing
[02:58] <alexicon> cheers
[02:58] <lbgist> hello
[02:58] <lbgist> i need help with kubuntu
[02:59] <Jucato> !ask
[02:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:59] <alexicon> heh
[02:59] <mattimeo78> I partitioned my drive backwards. >.<
[03:00] <okapi> I have problems with the Kubuntu 7.10. I just installed into my laptop DELL LAtitude 600 and it is not reconizing my pcmcia controller. Anyone can help?
[03:00] <nuu> now that's a topic candidate
[03:00] <epimeth> nuu: whats with the nick?  nuu means "come on!" in hebrew...
[03:01] <mattimeo78> It means "Noo" in chatspeak.
[03:01] <nuu> interesting, nick's actually nu, which means naked in french, and now in swedish
[03:01] <nuu> it has infinite variations
[03:01] <BluesKaj> backwards ?
[03:01] <mattimeo78> Accidentally gave Windows only 30 GB and Ubuntu 100.
[03:01] <nuu> mattimeo78: that's a sign of the gods
[03:01] <Jucato> 100GB to Ubuntu? nice :)
[03:01] <nuu> they want you to use linux
[03:01] <lbgist> when i reboot from kubuntu i close my dvd drive without cd and i press enter. and nothing appear
[03:01] <BluesKaj> windows deserves just 30
[03:02] <lbgist> no boot
[03:02] <mattimeo78> Which is a bummer, because Ubuntu picked up an extra 30GB that windows did not, and because I did it backwards that 30 went back into the abyss.
[03:02] <Jucato> mine just has 20GB :)
[03:02] <lbgist> someone can help me is a bug?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> <-48g for windows , 98 for kubuntu
[03:03] <lbgist> hello?
[03:03] <mattimeo78> Hello.
[03:03] <BluesKaj> have to reinstall windows due to scanner incompatablities
[03:04] <lbgist> hello can you help me with my problem?
[03:04] <lbgist> kubuntu problem
[03:04] <mattimeo78> Nope. I'm practically a retard with Ubuntu.
[03:04] <nuu> lbgist: if you close a dvd drive without a disc inserted, i'm fairly sure it is by design, that nothing happens
[03:05] <BluesKaj> bbl
[03:05] <lbgist> why cant reboot?
[03:06] <lbgist> and how i reboot?
[03:06] <mattimeo78> Lol. Yeah, installing my drivers might help fix my GL problems. I'm even using my onboard sound because I didn't think to install my sound drivers.
[03:06] <nuu> you can reboot using the "log out" button in your kde menu
[03:06] <nuu> and then selecting "restart"
[03:06] <nuu> or you can use "reboot" from a terminal
[03:07] <lbgist> ok thanks
[03:08] <mattimeo78> Is the Konsole case-sensitive?
[03:08] <nuu> yes
[03:09] <epimeth> mattimeo78: all of linux is case-sensitive
[03:13] <mattimeo78> How do I edit my X file? Trying to install NVIDIA drivers.
[03:17] <nuu> mattimeo78: the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:18] <mattimeo78> Aye, I found it.
[03:19] <leotr> hi all. how can i add russian language to my KDE? what should i download?
[03:19] <Jucato> !locale | leotr
[03:19] <ubotu> leotr: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[03:19] <Jucato> !ru | leotr
[03:19] <ubotu> leotr:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:20] <exceswater> hi all
[03:20] <exceswater> i have a question
[03:20] <exceswater> adept shows that i have 3 packs to update
[03:20] <exceswater> but if i try to run it...
[03:20] <exceswater> it says some other process is using something
[03:20] <exceswater> and i cannot use adept
[03:21] <exceswater> how can i make it work
[03:21] <exceswater> ????///
[03:21] <Jucato> !adeptfix | exceswater
[03:21] <ubotu> exceswater: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:21] <mattimeo78> I don't mean to over-ask, but when I attempt to instal NVIDIA drivers it asks me to exit X and then try again. How do I do this?
[03:22] <alexicon> mattimeo78: ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:22] <alexicon> but right after you install the nvidia stuff it tells you to reboot in feisty right
[03:23] <alexicon> sup haydar_
[03:23] <haydar_> nothing :)
[03:23] <haydar_> you?
[03:23] <haydar_> ;D
[03:23] <Ace2016> Hi all
[03:23] <haydar_> hi
[03:23] <Ace2016> krandrtray says my refresh rate is 50hz, how do i boost this to 75hz, i use 75 in xp
[03:24] <mattimeo78> Wasn't expecting that.
[03:24] <haydar_> ace2016
[03:24] <haydar_> Do you have videocard drivers installed
[03:24] <Ace2016> haydar_: nvidia drivers are installed
[03:24] <haydar_> Strange
[03:25] <haydar_> Sorry more i cant hel
[03:25] <haydar_> p
[03:25] <haydar_> kinda newb :P
[03:25] <mattimeo78> I'm trying to instal mine right now. Having no luck.
[03:25] <mattimeo78> Thing still says I'm running an X server.
[03:25] <alexicon> mattimeo78: it will always be x
[03:25] <haydar_> suo alexicon :P
[03:25] <haydar_> sup*
[03:25] <alexicon> to test if the nv drivers are installed right, do glxgears
[03:25] <alexicon> if that program works your drivers have been installed
[03:26] <alexicon> hey haydar_ not much, avoiding work, looking for a web gallery :P
[03:26] <Ace2016> mattimeo78: what are you trying to do?
[03:26] <mattimeo78> Install NVIDIA drivers.
[03:26] <mattimeo78> Just realized I never did it for Ubunut.
[03:26] <alexicon> feisty right mattimeo78?
[03:26] <Ace2016> mattimeo78: have you tried installing from the repos or is this a custom kernel?
[03:27] <mattimeo78> Gonna have to dumb it down a little, Ace. >.<
[03:27] <haydar_> rofl
[03:27] <haydar_> ;) i'm trying to install WoW
[03:27] <alexicon> lol haydar_
[03:27] <Ace2016> !nvidia
[03:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:27] <haydar_> I got it working already
[03:27] <haydar_> but it lags like shit :P
[03:28] <Ace2016> mattimeo78: have a look at the link
[03:28] <alexicon> cedega wont run eve for me D:
[03:28] <haydar_> tweaking it keke
[03:28] <mattimeo78> WoW is Linux?
[03:28] <alexicon> my version is way old tho :/
[03:28] <alexicon> wow works in linux mattimeo78
[03:28] <alexicon> a lot of games do [and a lot more dont >_>] 
[03:28] <haydar_> :P i know WoW works
[03:28] <haydar_> but it lags
[03:29] <haydar_> 100 fps @ windows :P
[03:29] <morpheus_> do you use wine to run the games?
[03:29] <haydar_> 15 fps @ linux
[03:29] <haydar_> atm
[03:29] <alexicon> i use cedega atm
[03:29] <alexicon> but i dont pay for it anymore
[03:29] <alexicon> so its a bit old
[03:29] <mattimeo78> Has anyone tried to get NWN to run on Linux?
[03:29] <alexicon> still plays wow, cs, jedi academy and loads of other stuff tho
[03:29] <alexicon> yeah nwn works native
[03:29] <haydar_> Alex
[03:29] <alexicon> <3 nwn for that
[03:29] <haydar_> Does it work smooth
[03:30] <alexicon> unreal runs native too
[03:30] <haydar_> <3
[03:30] <alexicon> haydar_ yeah
[03:30] <mattimeo78> I'm not sure how to use the Linux binaries.
[03:30] <haydar_> apt-get update?
[03:30] <haydar_> :p
[03:30] <alexicon> mattimeo78: you just stick the cd in and it should recognise
[03:30] <morpheus_> cedega? wow looks good
[03:30] <alexicon> cedega is nice cos of the interface
[03:31] <morpheus_> not wow as in WoW but wow hehehe
[03:31] <alexicon> just makes it a bit easier to install the stuff
[03:31] <haydar_> =D
[03:31] <alexicon> i find getting a working wine configuration takes forever for me :/
[03:31] <haydar_> Well
[03:31] <haydar_> I'm getting crazy because
[03:31] <haydar_> i'm only getting 15 FPS
[03:31] <haydar_> laggy sound i already fixed
[03:31] <alexicon> hrmm
[03:31] <haydar_> \o/
[03:32] <alexicon> i played wow in linux for 2 years before i tried it on windows
[03:32] <alexicon> and i really didnt notice much performance difference
[03:32] <alexicon> cept my laptop which has windows is higher spec than my desktop :P
[03:32] <alexicon> its not worth it :P
[03:33] <morpheus_> too busy giving everyone a hard on at work with kubuntu and beryl :P
[03:33] <alexicon> lol yeah
[03:33] <Ace2016> a hard on with kubuntu....
[03:33] <alexicon> converted about 4 people at uni to linux
[03:33] <morpheus_> given out 5 CD's already today :)
[03:34] <Zeelot> in the matrix? duh
[03:34] <morpheus_> lol
[03:34] <haydar_> Hmm, this time lockup
[03:34] <alexicon> :/
[03:34] <haydar_> :*
[03:34] <alexicon> my music player locked up
[03:34] <BluesKaj> morpheus_, easily impressed by eye candy eh ? ... that's one way to reel them in :)
[03:35] <alexicon> again :/ it didnt do this in edgy ever
[03:35] <haydar_> Hmm really i dont know why.. :OO
[03:35] <haydar_> is there anyway to track it down
[03:35] <haydar_> lockups
[03:35] <alexicon> impressed with all that eye candy and still out doing the performance of xp hands down X_D
[03:35] <haydar_> How you mean?
[03:35] <morpheus_> gonna have a play with ubuntu server this week
[03:35] <BluesKaj> anyone here have experience with *.uif files ?
[03:36] <alexicon> ubuntu even going with beryl and all the graphics stuff runs faster for me than winxp
[03:36] <haydar_> True.
[03:36] <haydar_> I have alot of shizzle
[03:36] <haydar_> on
[03:36] <Zeelot> my xp completely outperforms linux...never saw a fast gnome or kde desktop yet =/
[03:36] <alexicon> and when i startup ubuntu i dont have to spend the first 5 minutes killing processes -_-
[03:36] <haydar_> alex :P
[03:36] <haydar_> services.msc
[03:36] <alexicon> gnome feels faster than kde for me atm
[03:36] <haydar_> i have kde
[03:36] <morpheus_> I'm on an old 1.5Mhz machine with a 200NX graphics card, and it still psanks vista :):):)
[03:37] <haydar_> Kubuntu
[03:37] <morpheus_> spanks*
[03:37] <haydar_> xd
[03:37] <alexicon> i switched back to ubuntu for feisty
[03:37] <alexicon> but i prefer this chan <3
[03:37] <mattimeo78> I'm on a 933.
[03:37] <haydar_> Axe2016
[03:37] <alexicon> ace i havent used windows since 2001 :P
[03:37] <haydar_> Its easy to clear startupp
[03:37] <alexicon> really not up with it, just came on a laptop i got last summer
[03:37] <haydar_> programs
[03:37] <alexicon> japanese no less, so it gives me grief :P
[03:37] <haydar_> -.-" its virus attractive
[03:38] <alexicon> just use it for games really
[03:38] <alexicon> i could never imagine having to develop using windows D:
[03:38] <mattimeo78> I can't figure out this install. I'm gonna cry.
[03:38] <haydar_> Well thats what i wanted to do
[03:38] <alexicon> which one mattimeo78 nvidia still?
[03:38] <haydar_> But i dont have windows lying around
[03:38] <alexicon> are you on edgy or feisty mattimeo78
[03:38] <mattimeo78> Feisty.
[03:38] <alexicon> haydar_: i didnt either til i got this laptop heh. its kinda been novel getting to try new games though
[03:39] <alexicon> mattimeo78: hrm, you running the restricted drivers manager mattimeo78 ?
[03:39] <haydar_> Well i used a cracked windows version for
[03:39] <haydar_> 7 years now
[03:39] <morpheus_> wonder how many people are coming over to kubuntu each day, everyone I know has given it a go now and are dual booting at least
[03:39] <haydar_> Then, i saw this rofl
[03:39] <alexicon> heh
[03:39] <mattimeo78> All I see is three drivers in use. -.-
[03:39] <haydar_> morpheus_
[03:39] <haydar_> i dont have dualboot
[03:39] <haydar_> :P
[03:40] <alexicon> mattimeo78: does it list the nvidia one for install? how far have you gotten?
[03:40] <haydar_> :[ and i wanna play WoW
[03:40] <haydar_> rofl
[03:40] <morpheus_> but for dedicated winblows users to have an alternative os is a big step
[03:40] <alexicon> mattimeo78: do this at the terminal
[03:40] <alexicon>  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver
[03:41] <haydar_> Alexicon
[03:41] <haydar_> I wanna try it with cedega
[03:41] <haydar_> is it opensource?
[03:41] <Jucato> !cedega
[03:41] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:41] <alexicon> cedega is pay unfortunately
[03:41] <Jucato> cedega cvs is free iirc...
[03:41] <alexicon> you might be able to get an unsupported cvs version tho
[03:42] <alexicon> nod
[03:42] <haydar_> Where imo
[03:42] <alexicon> good idea actually
[03:42] <haydar_> Kinda new to this stuff rofl
[03:42] <alexicon> erm transgaming.org i think
[03:42] <haydar_> Let me look
[03:42] <alexicon> !cvs
[03:42] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[03:43] <alexicon> wewt!! http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[03:43] <haydar_> Damn
[03:43] <alexicon> cool!
[03:43] <haydar_> need to register on the site
[03:43] <haydar_> the transgaming one
[03:43] <haydar_> :DDDDDDDDD
[03:43] <alexicon> wewt and a deb file!!!
[03:43] <mattimeo78> BRB
[03:43] <alexicon> yeah i had emerald membership..
[03:43] <alexicon> joined back when WoW first came out
[03:44] <haydar_> Its not really free
[03:44] <alexicon> man that was a hassle..
[03:44] <alexicon> nope it isnt
[03:44] <alexicon> but you can get developer version for free
[03:44] <alexicon> might be buggy tho
[03:44] <haydar_> :> serialcode
[03:44] <haydar_> generator
[03:44] <haydar_> ?
[03:44] <haydar_> :P
[03:44] <haydar_> i'm mean :D
[03:44] <haydar_> Developer version
[03:47] <haydar_> Hey alex
[03:47] <haydar_> is it
[03:47] <haydar_> this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=cedega+cvs
[03:48] <alexicon> itll be a cvs link haydar_
[03:48] <haydar_> Its a howto
[03:48] <haydar_> for the cvs
[03:48] <alexicon> yep
[03:48] <alexicon> this is installing wine first em
[03:48] <haydar_> Do i now need  to unistall
[03:48] <haydar_> I got wine already
[03:48] <haydar_> the newest one
[03:48] <haydar_> from the sitr
[03:48] <haydar_> site*
[03:48] <alexicon> you dont want wine cvs
[03:48] <alexicon> you want cedega
[03:49] <haydar_> Yea
[03:49] <ebees> Hi all. I'm running 6.06 on my desktop and laptop. I've a scanner that works on my desktop but not the lappy. It runs as root. I've checked ubuntuforums and checked all my settings against my desktop. Still can only run as root. groups shows me as belonging to scanner.
[03:49] <ejupin> I can't see KDE, I can log in but then I get desktop with nothing on it.. any idea's how I get it back.. Gnome works fine.
[03:49] <alexicon> http://cedega.com/cvs/
[03:49] <alexicon> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[03:49] <ebees> any assistance or advice would be appreciated
[03:50] <haydar_> Alex
[03:50] <haydar_> its wineX
[03:50] <haydar_> or something
[03:51] <alexicon> confusing
[03:51] <_6StringKng_> when you browse for file like when pening documents and stuff using kate,is there any way to add to the sort by mneu?
[03:51] <alexicon> point2play was what the gui used to be called
[03:51] <_6StringKng_> for files when using*
[03:51] <_6StringKng_> dammit
[03:51] <alexicon> they blocked it all together i think after 5.2.x
[03:51] <_6StringKng_> opening, lmao
[03:52] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: er... please rephrase w/ the correct spellings :)
[03:52] <haydar_> Please also note that Point2Play is not available through CVS.
[03:52] <alexicon> heh
[03:52] <alexicon> oh well
[03:52] <haydar_> Damn..:(
[03:52] <RobNyc-work> anyone here uses Kubuntu + Xchat ?
[03:52] <_6StringKng_> yeah, well, I'll try not to mess stuff up this time
[03:52] <_6StringKng_> lol
[03:52] <alexicon> haydar_: can you get pm messages?
[03:53] <haydar_> hmm nope :P
[03:53] <haydar_> You got msn ?:P
[03:53] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: still waiting :)
[03:53] <abrahao> Hi, How Can I access the ubuntu server via internet?
[03:53] <_6StringKng_> ok, when you open files and stuff, like for example in kate, say I opened a document, when your gith click in the dir where your opening the file, can you add to the "Sorting" menu
[03:53] <alexicon> mrr msn
[03:53] <_6StringKng_> right click, sorry
[03:54] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: add what to the sorting menu?
[03:54] <_6StringKng_> like by type for example if its not there
[03:54] <_6StringKng_> I think I remember being able to do it when I used 6.10 or 6.06
[03:55] <Jucato> I don't think so... I think it's presumed that the only file type you'll be opening will be text files (and the like)
[03:56] <_6StringKng_> well everything is listed, its just I like them to be sorted by type, hehe
[03:56] <_6StringKng_> gets on my nerves when there sortyed by name, or size etc.
[03:56] <alesan> hi
[03:56] <alesan> I am logged remotely on a ubuntu computer, how do I install ndiswrapper? using adept would have been easier I do not know the exact package name
[03:57] <alesan> apt-get install "what"?
[03:57] <ehamberg> source /etc/bash_completion
[03:57] <alesan> :)
[03:57] <ehamberg> Let you tab-complete package names
[03:58] <alexicon> ace
[03:59] <bumzo> hi pple
[03:59] <bumzo> how do i install a .bin file?
[03:59] <ehamberg> probalby by setting it to executable and running it: chmod +x [file]  ; ./[file] 
[04:00] <ehamberg> (But a "bin" file can be almost anything...)
[04:02] <alexicon> hey peeps, how do you check package version on apt again?
[04:02] <alexicon> or was it a dpkg call
[04:02] <alexicon> why do i seem to remember dpkg -k or something
[04:02] <Jucato> apt-cache policy <package> ?
[04:03] <Jucato> or just apt-cache show <package>
[04:03] <alexicon> ah cheers
[04:03] <ehamberg> Or dpkg -s <package> :)
[04:04] <alexicon> ah yeah thats the one :D
[04:04] <alexicon> policy shows a nice shorthand tho
[04:04] <alesan> I installed ndiswrapper-common but this is not enough. if I try to install ndiswrapper-utils it gives me an error saying Package ndiswrapper-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:05] <alexicon> what type of wifi card alesan
[04:05] <alesan> alejandro, a broadcom softmac
[04:05] <ehamberg> alesan: Did you try the tab-completion trick? I can see that there's a package called ndiswrapper-utils-1.9...
[04:06] <alexicon> ick broadcom D:
 how can you be remote remotely?
[04:06] <alesan> the native driver... well it can detect and connect to a network but the transfer rate is way too low
[04:06] <haydar_> Damn
[04:06] <ehamberg> (I don't know anything about which package(s) you need :)
[04:06] <haydar_> haydar@haydar-desktop:~$ apt-get update python
[04:06] <haydar_> E: De 'update'-opdracht aanvaard geen argumenten
[04:06] <haydar_> Dont works
[04:06] <alesan> abrahao, sorry? what do you mean
[04:06] <ehamberg> haydar_: apt-get install python
[04:06] <ehamberg> haydar_: "update" updates the database, not a package
[04:06] <haydar_> Aah
[04:07] <haydar_> :XD
[04:07] <haydar_> alex
[04:07] <haydar_> from adept-manger
[04:07] <haydar_> i managed to install python-gtk2
[04:07] <alexicon> ah cool
[04:07] <alexicon> yeah get python-glade2 as well
[04:07] <alexicon> then try the cedega dpkg again
[04:08] <haydar_> did it
[04:08] <alexicon> nice
[04:08] <alexicon> dpkg works this time?
 you typed that are  logged remotely on a ubuntu computer, how Can I do that?
[04:09] <alesan> abrahao, install the package named "ssh"
[04:09] <alesan> and then use on a remote computer the command: ssh user@IP
[04:10] <alesan> if the "client" computer is windows, you can use a program named putty
 the client is windows, Can I get an acceess like terminal serviece/?
[04:11] <alesan> what is terminal serviece? I am not familiar with windows
[04:11] <alesan> explain what is
 access ubuntu via remote desktop, see the gnome
[04:14] <alesan> well this channel is kubuntu, we use KDE
 can be kde
[04:15] <alesan> anyway you can install and start the x11vnc program and use a vnc client on the windows ciomputer, like realvnc
 install x11 using apt-get install x11vnc?
[04:17] <alesan> mh yes, or more comfortably in adept
[04:17] <alesan> it's called x11vnc
[04:18] <alexicon> anyone used nx? or xen?
[04:20] <leotr> !ru
[04:20] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
 and to install ssh can I use apt-get install ssh?
[04:21] <epimeth> well... another day has ended... adios folks!
[04:26] <ForgeAus> YAY starcraft 2 is announced.. finally!
[04:26] <ForgeAus> um but it doesn't look like theres likely to be any *nix support ... I could be wrong
[04:27] <DJServers> yo
[04:29] <alexicon> if blizzard didnt support wow they wont support anything for linux...
[04:29] <alexicon> unfortunately :P
[04:30] <haydar_> MACOS
[04:30] <haydar_> but no linux
[04:30] <haydar_> omg
[04:36] <caa1980> hi
[04:37] <caa1980> how do i get the mingw gui to work in Kubuntu 7.04
[04:37] <caa1980> how do i get the mingw gui to work in Kubuntu 7.04?
[04:37] <ubunturos> what is wrong with GCC 4.0?
[04:38] <caa1980> how do i get the mingw gui to work in Kubuntu 7.04? It's a C++ compiler that looks like visual c++
[04:38] <caa1980> I prefer something that looks like what I am used to
[04:39] <nuu> suppose i'm browsing a remote samba share, full of avi files, using the smb protocol in konqueror. Also assume i don't want to use smb4k or generally mount the filesystem locally, i want to use it remotely without mounting it. if i want vlc (my default video player) to stream the file without first downloading it, i have to "open with ..." and pass it "wxvlc %u". How can i make this the default choice for every .avi file on a smb share ?
[04:39] <nuu> ie, the one that you get when double clicking the file, without having to "open with..->wxvlc" every time
[04:39] <caa1980> I'd like a IDE that looks like visual c++
[04:40] <lupul> !process
[04:40] <sparr> caa1980: how is it not working?
[04:40] <nuu> "remember application association for this type of file" didnt work, by the way
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <lupul> does anyoe know the command to list the processes?
[04:40] <sparr> lupul: ps
[04:40] <lupul> the entire command :D
[04:40] <caa1980> I downloaded the mingw package but dosen't show in the K menue
[04:40] <sparr> thats it
[04:41] <pag> lupul, ps -A ?
[04:41] <DJServers> !pastine
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <DJServers> or what what it?
[04:41] <DJServers> the paste site of ubuntu?
[04:41] <pag> !paste | DJServers
[04:41] <lupul> i mean the one something like this
[04:41] <ubotu> DJServers: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <lupul> grep | ....
[04:41] <DJServers> thx
[04:42] <pag> lupul, not sure what you mean... you could try ps -A | grep TheThingYouWantToSearchFor
[04:42] <lupul> that's it
[04:42] <caa1980> Plus my college classes use visual c++ but that's only on windows and I prefer linux.
[04:42] <lupul> thanks very much
[04:43] <caa1980> so how do I get  IDE GUI that looks like Visual c++?
[04:44] <pag> caa1980, I never used VS2005, but you miht want to have a look at KDevelop, it's quite nice IDE
[04:44] <caa1980> it's to KDE
 cant find package called x11vnc via apt-get install
[04:44] <caa1980> minGW looks like visual basic if only I could get it in my K menue and up and working.
[04:45] <caa1980> alesan try just vnc
[04:45] <pag> caa1980, try to launch it from Run Dialog ( alt + F2 )
[04:45] <llutz> caa1980: if it is installed and runs, just use kmenueedit to add it to your k-menu
[04:45] <caa1980> if I new the command to lounch it i would
[04:46] <alesan> what is the server that adds skype to the list of available programs?
[04:46] <caa1980> and i tride "mingw" and nothen came up.
[04:46] <iarwain_> hiya there, anyone know how to mount a crashed hard drive? (partition is labelled SFS-type by fdisk, and not found in my /dev/sdb's )
[04:47] <sparr> packages.ubuntu.com down?
[04:47] <cristina> 
[04:47] <caa1980> no
[04:48] <caa1980> I guise there is no answer to my question then.
[04:48] <sparr> then im having an insanely specific internet failure
[04:48] <llutz> caa1980: "dpkg -L mingw32|grep /bin/"
[04:49] <llutz> caa1980: if mingw32 is the packagename
[04:49] <caa1980> ok and now what?
[04:49] <llutz> caa1980: now you see the installed executables
[04:50] <egocarmen> felix  my friend his name is felix
[04:50] <llutz> caa1980: and maybe a look into the documentation would be helpfull
[04:50] <lupul> which is the command to search for one process in all active?
[04:50] <egocarmen>   felix:  felix  my friend his name is felix
[04:50] <caa1980> mingw32msvc-c++
[04:51] <iarwain_> lupul: try 'ps -aux |grep processname'
[04:51] <lupul> ok thanks
[04:51] <sercanii> hi, my usb host device stops responding when I boot my computer with any usb plugin device... kubuntu, ubuntu ( all ubuntu dist.s ) (some linux dist this eror not occur), thanks
[04:51] <caa1980> /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-g++
[04:52] <caa1980> /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-c++
[04:52] <caa1980> /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gcov
[04:52] <caa1980> /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gccbug
[04:52] <caa1980> /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-cpp
[04:52] <caa1980> /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gcc
[04:52] <caa1980> /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gcc-3.4.5
[04:52] <caa1980> /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-cc
[04:52] <caa1980> that's all i get
[04:53] <caa1980> thats tell's me nothing
[04:53] <iarwain_> noone knows how to get a lost partition back? (i tried testdisk)
[04:53] <llutz> caa1980: read docu
[04:53] <caa1980> other then the compilers are there dosen't tell me ho to get the mingw gui to come up
[04:55] <caa1980> i guise this was no help
[04:56] <llutz> caa1980: according to the mingw32 homepage, there is no GUI
[04:56] <caa1980> thats not true
[04:56] <caa1980> I have seen it
[04:56] <BluesKaj> iarwain_, did you install windows after ubuntu ?
[04:56] <caa1980> maybe i'll use eclipse
[04:56] <pag> caa1980, umm... where? Have you got a link?
[04:56] <iarwain_> BluesKaj: i did not install anything, my partition just got lost (it is the hard-drive of a NAS tbh) when i tried mounting it
[04:57] <Ace2016> Hi all
[04:57] <llutz> caa1980: fine, go back where you've seen it, read docu and use it
[04:57] <iarwain_> Ace2016: hiya there =)
[04:57] <Ace2016> How do i make the ok in the startup process of kubuntu like this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=49074&file1=49074-1.png&file2=49074-2.png&file3=49074-3.png&name=Gentoo+Splash
[04:57] <Ace2016> all my text is white :(
[04:57] <llutz> caa1980: http://www.mingw.org/
[04:58] <caa1980> MinGW Studio
[04:58] <dhq> fdoving, i want to play music from my laptop and it should stream on my pc at the same time something like esd i want amarok to use the feature please help
[04:58] <BluesKaj> !grub | iarwain_
[04:58] <ubotu> iarwain_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:58] <iarwain_> Ace2016: i have NO idea, 'd like to know it myself too =)
[04:58] <Ace2016> dhq: use vlc, it can stream stuff like that
[04:58] <iarwain_> BluesKaj: i did not lose grub, i lost a partition -_-'
[04:59] <BluesKaj> lost the partition or just access to it ?
[04:59] <dhq> Ace2016, i am faraway from that pc
[04:59] <iarwain_> BluesKaj: access for sure, partition i do not know (altough fdisk list it as a SFS type, but has a questionmark next to it)
[05:00] <dhq> !esd
[05:00] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[05:00] <BluesKaj> dhq,  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)
[05:00] <DJServers> ehm.... what is the chmod command i forgot it  it something like: chmod FILE MODE
[05:01] <DJServers> i dont now it
[05:01] <Ace2016> dhq: but you have network right? then a player on your laptop can tune into it
[05:01] <iarwain_> DJServers: chmod +x filename
[05:01] <iarwain_> DJServers: for example =)
[05:01] <DJServers> ok\
[05:01] <BluesKaj> SFS ?
[05:02] <dhq> Ace2016, i wanna play music on my laptop and make my other machine as speakers cauz i have good speakers
[05:02] <BluesKaj> iarwain_, so your partiton doesn't have a designation like hd0,1 or hda, sda
[05:04] <iarwain_> BluesKaj: indeed. It has /dev/sdb6 assigned, but that file doesn't exist
[05:06] <morpheus_> anyone know how to make a bootable kubuntu USB pen drive?
[05:08] <DJServers> This normally involves CHMODing them 777.    i need to to that what is the command for that?
[05:09] <llutz> DJServers: chmod 777 file-to-change
[05:09] <DJServers> ok
[05:09] <iarwain_> DJServers: try 'chmod 777 filename'
[05:09] <llutz> DJServers: or chmod -R 777 directory-to-change-with-subs
[05:09] <Daisuke-Ido> morpheus_: about a minute of googling would have netter you this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[05:09] <Jucato> !install
[05:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:09] <alexicon> anyone here tried the jboss suite?
[05:10] <morpheus_> just having a look, does that cover kubuntu too?
[05:10] <Daisuke-Ido> i would imagine since ubuntu and kubuntu have identical live cd structures...
[05:10] <DJServers> ok it works thx
[05:10] <morpheus_> cheers
[05:10] <Jucato> morpheus_: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[05:11] <iarwain_> morpheus_: kubuntu is the same as ubuntu (just the DE differs)
[05:11] <nuu> ace2016
[05:12] <quanti> bonjour, je voulais savoir comment installer de nouvelles icones (tlcharges sur gnome-look.org) pour le bureau gnome ?
[05:12] <pag> !fr | quanti
[05:12] <ubotu> quanti: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:13] <dugar> Hola
[05:13] <quanti> oops i'm sorry i thought i was on the french channel
[05:13] <Ace2016> nuu: yea?
[05:13] <nuu> you gotta use setterm for that
[05:13] <nuu> just read your question about colors in init scripts
[05:14] <Ace2016> nuu: does setterm require kernel patches?
[05:15] <nuu> don't think so, just try it on your console locally, and see :)
[05:15] <nuu> try for instance setterm -foreground=yellow and see what happens
[05:17] <haydar_> man :(
[05:17] <haydar_> i'm sad
[05:18] <haydar_> 10-23 FPS
[05:18] <haydar_> on WoW
[05:18] <haydar_> windows = 50-70 fps
[05:18] <haydar_> ;[ cedega
[05:18] <llutz> haydar_: use win
[05:18] <haydar_> nope
[05:20] <justin_> hello?
[05:21] <Ace2016> nuu: cool thanks, but how do i get it to work in konsole? nothing happens when i try setterm there
[05:21] <Ace2016> it works in F1
[05:22] <nuu> init scripts are run in a terminal, not under a virtual terminal like konsole
[05:22] <ejupin> I cant see KDE desktop, just wallpaper. How do I reset/reinstall? Gnome works fine
[05:22] <Ace2016> oh
[05:23] <justin_> I'm having a strange problem. About 1hr+ after using any bittorrent client (Ktorrent Azereus), the computer becomes unresponsive, slow and the internet kicks off.
[05:25] <Ace2016> justin_: try reducing the number of connections, this might help
[05:26] <DJServers> how can i see my network ip?
[05:26] <DJServers> not the lan ip but the network ip
[05:27] <leotr> where is it possible to download kde-i18n-ru?
[05:27] <rbrunhuber> DJServers : what do you mean with network ip?
[05:27] <llutz> DJServers: http://www.ipheaven.com/
[05:27] <leotr> ...package
[05:28] <DJServers> whell the ip like:   192.168.1.100   but we have more PC's so where can i see that ip of this PC
[05:28] <justin_> Ace2016, I'll try but the problem just started a little bit after installing Feisty.
[05:28] <llutz> DJServers: ifconfig
[05:29] <llutz> DJServers: or "ip add show"
[05:29] <DJServers> ok i got it
[05:29] <korobase> Hi,all. a problem about playing the avi file!
[05:30] <korobase> When I play,it only have audio but no vedio.
[05:30] <korobase> What is wrong?
[05:31] <korobase> Please help me.All friends!!!!!!
what are you playing it with?
[05:31] <alexicon> wow picasa is awesome!
[05:32] <Daisuke-Ido> korobase: get the proper codecs or use VLC.
[05:32] <korobase> kaffeine.
[05:32] <lacrymology> excuse me
[05:32] <korobase> VLC.what?
[05:32] <morpheus_> ahhh, install vlc then
[05:32] <lacrymology> how do I add repos to the sources?
[05:32] <Daisuke-Ido> VLC
[05:32] <lacrymology> e.g: how do I add Universe and Multiverse?
[05:32] <Daisuke-Ido> lacrymology: open adept and go to manage repositories
[05:32] <lacrymology> I was used to the gnome distro and I can't find it
[05:33] <lacrymology> Daisuke-Ido: ok
[05:33] <DJFrankie> DJServers here
[05:33] <DJFrankie> i restarted my internet but now the name DJServers is still in use :P
[05:33] <Daisuke-Ido> bummer
[05:34] <lacrymology> Daisuke-Ido: I dont see manage repositories in adept..
[05:34] <Daisuke-Ido> didn't quit konversation before restarting your connection, it seems
[05:34] <_6StringKng_> just get it formt he konsole, instructions are on the site
[05:34] <Daisuke-Ido> lacrymology: adept manager > Adept > Manage Repositories
[05:38] <lacrymology> so
[05:38] <lacrymology> is there any sensible way of mantaining a linux distro without an internet connection
[05:38] <lacrymology> like..
[05:38] <Daisuke-Ido> um
[05:38] <lacrymology> let's say I want to install something... are there any pre-arranged ber packages that will have all dependencies?
[05:38] <Ace2016> How do i get kubuntu to show the mount dialogue? i think i broke it
[05:39] <nuu> Ace2016: perhaps this could also be interesting, haven't tried it though. maybe you wanna take a look: http://madchicken.altervista.org/tech/2006/02/put-colours-in-your-ubuntu-startup-and.html
[05:39] <lacrymology> because it's enough of a pain to have to burn CDs at work, but bringing them home only to realize I forgot the asc012-2001.93.104-2.4.567 package it's quite annoying
[05:40] <icecruncher> what does it mean when it says "SSL support is needed for MSN. Please install a supported SSL library." reffering to pidgin
[05:40] <icecruncher> what do i have to install
[05:40] <lacrymology> icecruncher: it means exactly that, you need to install ssl
[05:40] <icecruncher> how
[05:40] <lacrymology> open adept and search for ssl
[05:40] <Daisuke-Ido> lacrymology: you have no internet connection at home?
[05:40] <lacrymology> I think you have to instal TLS, but I'm not sure. Give me a sec
[05:40] <lacrymology> Daisuke-Ido: nopes
[05:40] <Daisuke-Ido> ouch
[05:41] <Ace2016> nuu: thanks, looks like i'll have to edit it by hand using that as a referance
[05:41] <nuu> np
[05:41] <Daisuke-Ido> well, you can always use aptitude from a live cd at work, save the /vat/cache/apt/archives directory to a usb drive and do it that way...
[05:42] <Daisuke-Ido> sp/vat/var
[05:42] <Ace2016> Anyone know how to edit the startup process order? the login tty console starts too early before other processes and it messes up the tty1 display
[05:42] <Jucato> lacrymology: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[05:42] <nuu> Ace2016: the debian initscript startup order is defined by the number after the S in the name
[05:42] <lacrymology> icecruncher: I can't find it, I'm running the liveCD right now
[05:42] <icecruncher> lacrymology: k
[05:42] <lacrymology> but google for SSL and debian
[05:42] <nuu> the higher the number, the later the script gets executed
[05:43] <Daisuke-Ido> ooh, i hadn't heard about apt on cd
[05:43] <nuu> infact rc.local, which typically is executed last on every distro, is named S99rc.local
[05:43] <lacrymology> icecruncher: or try apt-get install ssl maybe you'll get lucky
[05:44] <Ace2016> nuu: thanks i found them using locate
[05:44] <lacrymology> icecruncher: that's "sudo apt-get install ssl" or "sudo apt-get instal libssl" on a terminal
[05:44] <nuu> Ace2016: bear in mind you need to consider the runlevel too, when changing order. and be careful not to break anything. the order is there typically because there often are dependencies with earlier scripts
[05:44] <dcorbin> Which package contains gvim?
[05:45] <Jucato> !info gvim
[05:45] <ubotu> Package gvim does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:45] <Jucato> hm...
[05:45] <nuu> Ace2016: you can see your current runlevel by typing runlevel in a terminal. typically you're runlevel 2 which is full multiuser runlevel. runlevel 1 is single-user level, and 3-5 are same as 2, while 6 is reboot
[05:45] <SlimeyPete> dcorbin: do an "apt-cache search gvim"
[05:45] <kane_> has anyone been succesfull in getting a Nvidia TV-out to work correctly with fiesty/
[05:45] <jeff_> HI, all
[05:45] <nuu> so if you're planning to make changes in the startup order, generally you want to do them under /etc/rc2.d
[05:45] <alexicon> yeah kane_
[05:45] <kane_> it worked great in 6.10
[05:46] <Jucato> dcorbin: try installing vim-full
[05:46] <nuu> which contains init scripts order for runlevel 2
[05:46] <Daisuke-Ido> i would be so much happier if aptoncd were available in a QT variant :\
[05:46] <alexicon> works fine for me on fx5200 twinview
[05:46] <korobase> I have install the vlc.But It have another problem when I play the avi file the screen is flicked.
[05:46] <kane_> alexicon: did you have to do anything special?
[05:46] <alexicon> just copied my xorg.conf over from edgy
[05:46] <korobase> flickering all the time.
[05:46] <jeff_> I'm not sure where the best place is to find this information, so please point me in the right direction if this isn't the channel for this.
[05:46] <Ace2016> nuu: i wish i could just get initng to work, that was nice but never found out how to get my network to start
[05:46] <nuu> Ace2016: as a rule of thumb, cp -Rp /etc/rc2.d /etc/rc2.d-bak
[05:46] <kane_> hrm, mine must just hate me.
[05:46] <alexicon> the restricted driver manager got nv drivers setup perfectly @_@
[05:46] <jeff_> I'm looking for a feeling for when Pidgin will show up for installation in Feisty.
[05:46] <Daisuke-Ido> korobase: are you trying to play xvids on a 486 or something?
[05:47] <jeff_> From what I read, I'
[05:47] <jeff_> er.. I'm waiting for it to be backported so it'
[05:47] <jeff_> grr.  So it'll show up in Apt.
[05:47] <kane_> yeah ive got the drivers installed, it just wont detect the fact that the TV is indeed connected.
[05:47] <korobase> Daisuke-Ido:no.I use my notebook.
[05:47] <nuu> Ace2016: what do you mean you can't get your network to start ?
[05:47] <jeff_> Sorry for the carriage returns.  I keep hitting enter when I want single quote.
[05:48] <alexicon> kane_: drivers are working?
[05:48] <korobase> How to fix this problem.All friends.
[05:48] <alexicon> glxgears and glxinfo works?
[05:48] <kane_> yeah they work.
[05:48] <kane_> i can play 3d games.
[05:48] <kane_> etc
[05:48] <kane_> nvidia-settings works.
[05:48] <alexicon> hrm
[05:48] <Ace2016> nuu: just that whenever i booted with initng my network wouldn't work, i guess i need to add something, eth0 is what i'm using to connect to the router now
[05:48] <alexicon> configuration problem? you looked at xorg errors?
[05:49] <alexicon> still have your working xorg.conf from last time?
[05:49] <nuu> Ace2016: if you're planning to add custom network scripts, consider to make your changes in a script that starts after the networking initscript
[05:49] <kane_> yeah the only error is the the fact that it appears that ubuntu did not compile the Xorg int10 module in for somereason.
[05:49] <nuu> check /etc/rcS.d, see how networking starts #40
[05:50] <kane_> no i dont have the config file still, but it was one generated by nvidia-settings anyway.
[05:50] <DJFrankie> can someone check if my new site works? (hosted on this PC)   www.dj-habbo.us.tt
[05:50] <alexicon> ok
[05:50] <alexicon> can you copy your xorg.conf to the pastebin kane_
[05:50] <alexicon> !pastebin
[05:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:50] <alexicon> >_>
[05:50] <cyt> !grub | cyt
[05:50] <DJFrankie> can someone look if this link works plz... :   www.dj-habbo.us.tt
[05:51] <Ace2016> nuu: i guess i could edit the net script itself, copy the lo section and make a new eth section
[05:51] <pescez> hello everybody!!
[05:51] <pescez> is there anyone able to tell me how to set a usb pendrive's label without formatting it?
[05:51] <DJFrankie> thx for not looking -_-'
[05:52] <kane_> alexicon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21835/
[05:52] <nuu> Ace2016: modify your interface settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:52] <nuu> it's pretty easy to grasp
[05:53] <Ace2016> nuu: its already setup, it has auto eth0 already
[05:54] <nuu> Ace2016: check "dmesg | grep eth0" for hints
[05:54] <sercanii> DJFrankie - it works
[05:54] <morpheus_> lacrymology>djfrankie, seems fine to me
[05:54] <nuu> anyway, 6pm, home time
[05:54] <nuu> later guys
[05:54] <morpheus_> duh!
[05:54] <pescez> ...
[05:54] <jeff_> DJFrankie: e107 is installed.
[05:56] <DJFrankie> ok
[05:56] <DJFrankie> thx
[05:59] <ReMiiRuru> What is a command to list all processes?
[06:00] <llutz> ReMiiRuru: ps -aux
[06:00] <SlimeyPete> ps -aux
[06:00] <Jucato> ps aux
[06:00] <lustrousrodent> something like ps
[06:00] <raylu> lol
[06:00] <lustrousrodent> O_o
[06:00] <llutz> Jucato: you win :)
[06:00] <lustrousrodent> i lose
[06:00] <Jucato> or Ctrl+Esc to launch the GUI version
[06:00] <ReMiiRuru> Thanks
[06:00] <Jucato> I lostto llutz :)
[06:00] <Jucato> lost to*
[06:00] <DJFrankie> look at my site now i have installled a new theme: www.dj-habbo.us.tt
[06:01] <llutz> Jucato: "ps -a " = bad syntax
[06:01] <llutz> Jucato: "ps a" = preferred
[06:01] <Jucato> hm.. ok... :)
[06:03] <raylu> ew. e107
[06:06] <Lilacor> Anyone using KVM +NVIDIA?
[06:06] <Lilacor> I've read that this isn''t possible because the nvidia drivers conflict with paravirt. :(
[06:06] <Lilacor> I'd like to hear any opinions on this....
[06:07] <close2> hello, do you have an idea, how to find out, why "cat 3MB-file > /dev/null" could take ~10 seconds
[06:07] <close2> it used to work, works under a rescue-cd
[06:07] <close2> and dma and 32bit is on (hdparm)
[06:08] <markm_> The module Disk & Filesystems could not be loaded...
[06:09] <markm_> i see a few posts with this problem. Aby resolution?
[06:14] <markm_> seems like i wasted a cd on Ubuntu... back to Gentoo...
[06:14] <billytwowilly> Hi, can anyone point me to something talking about how to replace a software raid 5 array with bigger disks?
[06:14] <Jucato> markm_: try reinstalling the package named "kde-guidance"
[06:15] <markm_> tried it
[06:15] <markm_> hardinfo->storage devices also crashes
[06:16] <danny500> Hey, I need a little help
[06:17] <danny500> trying to install ATI graphics driver
[06:17] <danny500> anyone?
[06:17] <jussi01> danny500: whats the problem?
[06:17] <danny500> !pastebin
[06:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:17] <talius31> Hi everyone
[06:18] <danny500> ok look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21847/
[06:18] <danny500> does this mean it's installed?
[06:19] <danny500> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21847/
[06:19] <talius31> is someone know where can i find the file where's stored the global variables? the export command doesn't work weel and i really don't know what file to check :/
[06:19] <Daisuke-Ido> enough spamming, it's now visible twice without scrolling.
[06:19] <danny500> sorry
[06:19] <Daisuke-Ido> are those the newest drivers?
[06:19] <Ace2016> markm_: what setttings in kcontrol are you after? i would have thought a former gentoo user would never have used such a thing ;)
[06:20] <Daisuke-Ido> and did those come from the feisty repo or ati's site?
[06:20] <danny500> the only drivers for this machine
[06:20] <danny500> newest
[06:20] <danny500> no it came for ati's site
[06:20] <Daisuke-Ido> 64 bit
[06:20] <danny500> both
[06:20] <Pouzy> Hi
[06:20] <Daisuke-Ido> k...
[06:20] <Ace2016> hi
[06:20] <danny500> it can install 64 or 32 bit
[06:21] <Daisuke-Ido> tried xorg-driver-fglrx yet?
[06:21] <Pouzy> Euh, my login is owned by someone else.. maybe it was me some times before : How can i do to send the password by mail ?
[06:22] <Daisuke-Ido> Pouzy: they expire after 30 days, it's probably someone else now.
[06:22] <Flosoft> hi
[06:22] <Flosoft> has anyone got KDE 4 Alpha running?
[06:23] <danny500> "tried xorg-driver-fglrx yet?" how do I do that?
[06:23] <Daisuke-Ido> as i'm not a kde developer, and it's, as you said, alpha, most people aren't in any position to screw with it
[06:23] <lerneaen_hydra> random check: there's no support for labelflash in *nix at the moment yet, right?
[06:23] <mzanfardino1> I've played around with Xubuntu and like the weather forecast applet.  Is there a similar applet available for KDE?
[06:23] <Daisuke-Ido> danny500: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver fglrx
[06:24] <markm_> bloody hell half the system apps crash. this is crap. goodbye ubuntu!
[06:24] <danny500> E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver
[06:24] <raylu> danny500, sudo aptitude install xorg-drivere-fglrx
[06:24] <Daisuke-Ido> oops
[06:24] <danny500> mark_:stop your whining it's how you use the machine it's not the apps
[06:24] <Daisuke-Ido> danny500: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:24] <markm_> rubbish. i've used slackware, redhat and gentoo.
[06:25] <Daisuke-Ido> markm_: have fun with your virus-ridden windows :)
[06:25] <danny500> yes have fun
[06:25] <Daisuke-Ido> and good riddance.  if people aren't willing to learn, they should stick with the system geared toward the lowest common denominator
[06:25] <danny500> I've benn using ubuntu for 6 months without turning off, so go play wit h you week windows
[06:26] <danny500> to use ubuntu you need to know how to read
[06:26] <llutz> danny500: not only for ubuntu....
[06:26] <danny500> if your not good at following instructions then ubuntu won't work for you
[06:26] <pescez> !pastebin
[06:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:26] <danny500> I know
[06:26] <Pouzy> Daisuke-Ido: really strange.
[06:26] <mzanfardino> !mdeiubuntu
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdeiubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <Pouzy> Ok, it doesn't matter
[06:26] <jhutchins> !mediabuntu
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <raylu> ...
[06:27] <Daisuke-Ido> !medibuntu
[06:27] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[06:27] <Daisuke-Ido> \o/
[06:27] <danny500> ok now what?
[06:27] <Pouzy> I just wanted to know : I've installed the fglrx drivers yesterday, how can I know if they work with the 3D ?
[06:27] <Daisuke-Ido> danny500: got it installed?
[06:27] <mzanfardino> Daisuke-Ido: thanks
[06:27] <danny500> what installed?
[06:27] <Daisuke-Ido> xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:28] <danny500> I did that code you told me
[06:28] <danny500> so guessing yes
[06:28] <Daisuke-Ido> and it installed it
[06:28] <Daisuke-Ido> you did that in a terminal right, not with the run command dialog
[06:28] <danny500> how do I do that?
[06:28] <danny500> I'm running terminal
[06:28] <raylu> danny500, did it say it installed?
[06:29] <danny500> Reading package lists... Done
[06:29] <danny500> Building dependency tree
[06:29] <danny500> Reading state information... Done
[06:29] <danny500> E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver
[06:29] <danny500> danny500@netkiller:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:29] <danny500> Reading package lists... Done
[06:29] <danny500> Building dependency tree
[06:29] <danny500> Reading state information... Done
[06:29] <danny500> xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[06:29] <danny500> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:29] <Daisuke-Ido> you're already using the proprietary drivers then
[06:30] <Daisuke-Ido> and in the future, use pastebin :)
[06:30] <danny500> I know
[06:30] <Daisuke-Ido> so...  what else is there to do?
[06:30] <danny500> I don't want the proprietary driver's, they suck, I want the ones I downloaded
[06:31] <Daisuke-Ido> the ones you downloaded...  from ati
[06:31] <danny500> yes
[06:31] <Daisuke-Ido> those are proprietary drivers.
[06:31] <Daisuke-Ido> the same ones, i might add
[06:31] <danny500> oh ok well they don't work so well
[06:31] <danny500> I can't get beryl to work
[06:31] <Daisuke-Ido> ati in linux is a joke so far, hopefully amd is committed to fixing that, probably not.
[06:31] <danny500> I have a 512MB graphics card
[06:32] <Daisuke-Ido> danny500: doesn't matter if the card's great, if the drivers suck
[06:32] <danny500> ATI Radeon x550
[06:32] <Daisuke-Ido> and ati's drivers DO suck
[06:32] <danny500> with a AMD 64 Athlon 3200+
[06:33] <danny500> how do I get beryl to work then?
[06:33] <_6StringKng_> yeah I wish ATI and Beryl worked like it does with nvidia, lol
[06:33] <bsundsrud> danny500: IF You can get the drivers working, you can MAYBE use beryl with XGL...
[06:33] <danny500> ok I'll try that thanks
[06:33] <bsundsrud> but XGL is a huge pain in the butt
[06:34] <bsundsrud> it sucks compared to AIGLX, so much slower
[06:35] <Ace2016> oh i have an nvidia
[06:35] <bsundsrud> ?
[06:36] <Ace2016> ??
[06:36] <bsundsrud> why not use AIGLX with an nvidia card?
[06:36] <mzanfardino> how about it guys?  Anyone aware of a weather forecast applet for KDE?
[06:36] <Ace2016> mzanfardino: have a look at kde-look.org
[06:37] <bsundsrud> forecast? i know of one that tells current weather... and also the liquid weather superkaramba applet
[06:37] <Ace2016> mzanfardino: something like this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Grass+--+liquid+weather+background?content=56164
[06:42] <sebsebseb> Feisty Fawn Grub has screwed up and cannot boot into it, on the Dapper Live CD, and have  tryed to fix it. Getting Grub Error 17
[06:44] <raylu> sebsebseb, show us your menu.lst
[06:45] <sebsebseb> on  a Live CD
[06:45] <sebsebseb> so  how  to get the one for the install?
[06:50] <raylu> sebsebseb, mount your linux boot partition
[06:50] <sebsebseb> carn't remember how to do that
[06:50] <sebsebseb> how?
[06:51] <Pouzy> Hi there !
[06:51] <Pouzy> Just : How can I know if the 3D is on on my computer ?
[06:52] <raylu> Pouzy, 3d acceleration?
[06:52] <raylu> !mount | sebsebseb
[06:52] <ubotu> sebsebseb: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:52] <raylu> o.0...that's a bit overcomplicated
[06:52] <raylu> you can just use the mount command.
[06:52] <raylu> sudo mkdir [partition name] 
[06:53] <raylu> sudo mount /dev/[partition name]  [partition name] 
[06:53] <pag> Pouzy, do you mean  glxinfo | grep -i direct ?
[06:53] <sebsebseb> partion name?
[06:54] <raylu> sebsebseb, do you know the name of the partition? like sda1 or something
[06:54] <raylu> qtparted will show you the name
[06:54] <sebsebseb> sda1  well really  on Ubuntu  Live CD.  so Gparted
[06:54] <raylu> ok. so go and mount that
[06:55] <sebsebseb>    /dev/sda1
[06:55] <Pouzy> pag :
[06:55] <Pouzy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:55] <Pouzy> direct rendering: No
[06:55] <Pouzy> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:55] <Pouzy> Here it goes
[06:55] <Pouzy> ? i think there isnt' the 3D ?
[06:56] <pag> Pouzy, you're right :-/
[06:56] <Pouzy> Ok. I'll try out after.
[06:56] <Pouzy> I just want to know something else :
[06:57] <Pouzy> How can i compile a C program with linux ? I've got C lessons and I need to compile some
[06:57] <Pouzy> to see if it works
[06:57] <raylu> Pouzy, gcc
[06:58] <raylu> actually, there are a lot of c compilers
[06:58] <raylu> sebsebseb, is it working now?
[06:58] <sebsebseb> said  /dev/sda1 already exists
[06:58] <raylu> sebsebseb, are you in /media?
[06:58] <sebsebseb> no  I was about to say,  I need to tell it to use the installation not LIve CD?
[06:58] <Pouzy> raylu: i've tried to open gcc, but it didn't work. How to use it !gcc
[06:58] <Pouzy> !gcc
[06:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:58] <raylu> sebsebseb, it = ?
[06:59] <raylu> Pouzy, gcc = gnu c compiler, i believe
[06:59] <sebsebseb> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /dev/sda1
[06:59] <raylu> sebsebseb, cd /media first
[06:59] <sebsebseb> mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/sda1': File exists
[06:59] <raylu> then sudo mkdir sda
[06:59] <sebsebseb> ok  :)
[06:59] <raylu> *sudo mkdir sda1
[06:59] <llutz> Pouzy: gcc is a commandline-app, no gui so far. info with "man gcc"
[06:59] <raylu> you can't make /dev/sda1. that represents your hd
[07:00] <Pouzy> llutz: Erf. I need a graphic one, cause i've got my sources on a .txt file
[07:00] <sebsebseb> permssion denied
[07:00] <sebsebseb> for sda1
[07:00] <sebsebseb> dir
[07:01] <sebsebseb> ok made sda1 dir
[07:03] <sebsebseb> ok
[07:03] <sebsebseb> so  what go in that directory
[07:03] <sebsebseb> and  then?
[07:05] <raylu> sebsebseb, no, don't
[07:05] <raylu> (sorry for the slow reponse time, doing other stuff)
[07:05] <raylu> stay in /media and
[07:05] <raylu> sudo mount /dev/sda1 sda1
[07:05] <sebsebseb> also  I want to make an Ext3 by th eway
[07:05] <raylu> sebsebseb, so use gtparted
[07:05] <sebsebseb> well deleting an NTFS screwed it up in the first place I think
[07:05] <raylu> *gparted
[07:05] <sebsebseb> and  it's got an empty NTFS there at the moment,  that I don't want there,  I want an Ext3
[07:05] <raylu> right-click and there should be an option to change to ext3
[07:06] <raylu> but i suggest doing this later after you've fixed yoru grub
[07:06] <raylu> *your
[07:08] <sebsebseb> yes
[07:08] <sebsebseb> ,but  it could go wrong?
[07:08] <sebsebseb> and  effect Grub again?
[07:08] <Ayabara__> I'm trying to connect my dell inspiron 6000 with ati m300 graphics to an lcd tv. all I've done this far is connecting it, and the tv says out of range. can someone help me out?
[07:09] <sebsebseb> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 sda1
[07:09] <sebsebseb>          /dev/sda1 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[07:09] <sebsebseb> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:09] <sebsebseb> ok  so what's the next command?
[07:09] <sebsebseb> it's mounted
[07:10] <sebsebseb> well no
[07:10] <sebsebseb> iot's not
[07:10] <sebsebseb> I got an error mesaghe about swap
[07:10] <sebsebseb> well it might be mounted
[07:10] <raylu> lol, as i figured
[07:10] <Ayabara__> do I need to install the drivers from ati?
[07:10] <raylu> partition 1 was swapspace, so it's probably 2
[07:10] <raylu> sudo mkdir sda2 | sudo mount /dev/sda2 sda2
[07:10] <sebsebseb> ok
[07:11] <raylu> !ati | Ayabara__
[07:11] <ubotu> Ayabara__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:11] <raylu> Ayabara__, you don't *need* to, but it's betteter
[07:11] <sebsebseb> mount: mount point sda2 does not exist
[07:12] <Ayabara__> raylu: ok. you know how I can even get started with VGA out on my laptop? haven't found anything to configure yet...
[07:12] <Zabulus> hey sebsebseb, try typing glxgears in console, see what fps it shows
[07:12] <sebsebseb> according to Gparted.  sda 1  swap  sda 3 extended  sda5 ext3
[07:13] <sebsebseb> so it's sda5?
[07:13] <raylu> Ayabara__, for me, i just plugged it in and it worked
[07:13] <sebsebseb> fps?
[07:13] <raylu> sebsebseb, probably
[07:13] <Zabulus> frames per second
[07:14] <sebsebseb> gixgears command not found
[07:14] <kristjan_> hey, suggest good application/ easy to use app for creating short video of 50pngs
[07:14] <raylu> *glx
[07:14] <Ayabara__> raylu: ok. do you have ati? did you install the non-free driver?
[07:14] <raylu> Ayabara__, no, i have intel on this one. but i had an nv and an ati on other 2 computers and, before installing anything, i could output to a monitor
[07:15] <raylu> Ayabara__, try plugging it in before booting
[07:15] <sebsebseb> ok sda5 seems to be mounted now
[07:15] <raylu> sebsebseb, ok, go in there and show us /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:15] <raylu> i don't get you're numbering though...1,3,5, lol
[07:15] <sebsebseb> neither do I
[07:15] <sebsebseb> there seems to be no
[07:15] <sebsebseb> 2 or 4
[07:16] <Ayabara__> raylu: thanks for the tip. plugging in after booting was no success.
[07:16] <raylu> its happened to me and i don't understand it either. i usually just try reconfiguring until it's sequential
[07:16] <sebsebseb> ok
[07:16] <Ayabara__> I'll try rebooting and then installing the free driver if that doesn't work (or maybe anyway)
[07:16] <raylu> Ayabara__, there may also be a crt/lcd button on your keyboard (fn) or it may be squares
[07:17] <raylu> i doubt its a driver issue, though
[07:17] <Ayabara__> raylu: the button is there, but it had no effect
[07:17] <raylu> woo...i just crashed konversation
[07:17] <raylu> that was strange.
[07:18] <Ayabara__> raylu: why not a driver issue? is there a layer above that decides on the resolution, timing and stuff?
[07:18] <raylu> Ayabara__, i didn't need to install my specific driver before outputting...wait a sec
[07:19] <raylu> i had a laptop and i think that one was nv...the desktop was avi, so maybe that's why i didn't need the driver to output to a monitor
[07:19] <raylu> *the desktop was ati
[07:19] <raylu> i'm not too clear on this :(
[07:20] <Ayabara__> raylu: ok. I see that I have the option to configure a secondary display in "Monitor and Display" in system settings.
[07:20] <Ayabara__> anyway. I'll try the reboot thingy first.
[07:20] <Ayabara__> thanks
[07:20] <raylu> np, good luck
[07:20] <spark_> hoi
[07:21] <leonardo_terni> hi guys
[07:21] <sebsebseb> here it is:
[07:21] <sebsebseb> http://www.pastebin.co.uk/14896
[07:21] <spark_> anyone can help me with playing flash sound in firefox please? :)
[07:22] <ilona> nope.. sorry
[07:22] <raylu> flash sound?
[07:22] <raylu> do you get any other sound in ff?
[07:22] <sebsebseb> raylu:  http://www.pastebin.co.uk/14896
[07:22] <pag> spark_, are you using dapper?
[07:22] <raylu> sebsebseb, i saw it
[07:22] <spark_> uhm i don't think so. which other plugins can play sound?
[07:23] <spark_> no i use feisty
[07:23] <sebsebseb> ok  so  I guess it's currupted?
[07:23] <sebsebseb> and needs editing
[07:23] <sebsebseb> ?
[07:23] <raylu> sebsebseb, are you sure this is your installed menu.lst? it should be in /media/sda5/boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:24] <raylu> sebsebseb, was this from /boot/grub/menu.lst or /media/sda5/boot/grub/menu.lst?
[07:24] <raylu> spark_, try going to a site with background music
[07:24] <spark_> i installed flash plugin as ubuntuusers.de says but i just can't hear any sound with e.g. youtube
[07:24] <sebsebseb> sda5 boot grub
[07:24] <spark_> hmhm do you have a link?
[07:24] <raylu> sebsebseb, o.0. do you know anything else about your error? and what was the code again?
[07:25] <sebsebseb> error 17
[07:25] <raylu> spark_, no, sorry. try closing firefox, killall artsd, restart firefox
[07:25] <spark_> i did it a thousand times before
[07:25] <raylu> spa
[07:25] <raylu> spark_, your sound is fine in other apps?
[07:25] <sebsebseb> raylu: error 17
[07:26] <raylu> sebsebseb, i saw. i think instead of (hd0,5)
[07:26] <raylu> they should be (hd0,6)
[07:26] <sebsebseb> hda0,6 is the NTFS partion that I told you about ealtrier
[07:26] <raylu> since the /dev numbering starts at 1 but grub numbering starts at 0
[07:26] <spark_> yipp. really great. but i have to use an own asouncrc to support my 5.1. soundcard
[07:26] <sebsebseb> sda6 is  the NTFS I told you about ealrier
[07:26] <raylu> so sda5 is grub's ...wait, that's grub's 4
[07:26] <raylu> change it to 4 :P
[07:27] <sebsebseb> remind me how,  I can edit that file,  been a while,  and need to be root
[07:27] <raylu> spark_, then i'm out of ideas, sorry :p
[07:27] <spark_> ok doesn't matter thank you
[07:27] <ilona> okay.. this is to complicated for me :p
[07:27] <raylu> sebsebseb, kdesu kate, but i'm not sure you need to be root
[07:27] <raylu> oh, wait, use gksudo gedit
[07:27] <sebsebseb> well  really on  Ubuntu  Live CD  so gedit
[07:28] <sebsebseb> yes  once cd'd into that directory of course?
[07:28] <raylu> no. you can always open the file after starting gedit
[07:28] <Ayabara___> raylu: a little better when I booted. I could actually see that the background was blue...
[07:28] <raylu> actually, cd'ing to that dir will do nothing
[07:28] <Ayabara___> !restricted
[07:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <raylu> Ayabara___, huh?
[07:29] <Ayabara___> raylu: the vga out issue
[07:29] <raylu> you mean that you had some output?
[07:29] <raylu> i thought you would just have a blank screen or some no input error from the monitor
[07:29] <Lilacor> I'm core dumping when trying to run kvm, what do I do to resolve this?
[07:29] <raylu> !kvm
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <raylu> !find kvm
[07:29] <ubotu> Found: linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server-bigiron, ikvm (and 4 others)
[07:29] <Ayabara___> yep. it was out of range when I plugged in after boot. garbled blue logon screen when I connected before boot
[07:29] <raylu> o.0
[07:30] <Lilacor> raylu: :-/
[07:30] <raylu> what is kvm? lol
[07:30] <sebsebseb> change which bit to what exactly?
[07:30] <Lilacor> raylu: kernel-based virtual machine
[07:30] <raylu> sebsebseb, (hd0,5) to (hd0,4)
[07:30] <sebsebseb> all the hd0,5's?
[07:30] <raylu> Ayabara___, you could try booting into a livecd and seeing the xorg.conf
[07:30] <raylu> sebsebseb, yes
[07:30] <raylu> sebsebseb, actually, only the first is fine
[07:31] <raylu> sebsebseb, and if it works, change the other 2 also
[07:31] <sebsebseb> well I changed the 3
[07:31] <sebsebseb> so save the file and re boot and hopefully Grub will work or?
[07:32] <raylu> yes. show me the whole line that you changed?
[07:32] <Ayabara___> how do I run the restricted drivers installer on kubuntu?
[07:32] <sebsebseb> I  changed the 3 lines with hd,05  to 04
[07:32] <haydar_> Hmm can anyone help me with Cedega + WoW
[07:32] <Ayabara___> !restricted
[07:32] <raylu> sebsebseb, could you copy/paste the whole line?
[07:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:32] <Ayabara___> !ati
[07:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:32] <raylu> Ayabara___, no idea :P
[07:32] <haydar_> It works fine until i get ingame
[07:32] <haydar_> 1 fps
[07:32] <sebsebseb> i'll pastebin the whole thing again
[07:32] <haydar_> D: *:(
[07:33] <sebsebseb> ah  just reolized it's in read only in gedit
[07:33] <sebsebseb> so  yes
[07:33] <JuJuBee> Anybody know if it is possible to use ~ ad the tftproot for tftpd-hpa?
[07:33] <raylu> haydar_, you may need to install the driver for your graphics card
[07:33] <sebsebseb> need to gksudo then
[07:33] <raylu> sebsebseb, oops :(
[07:33] <JuJuBee> *as
[07:33] <haydar_> raylu
[07:33] <haydar_> I already got it installed
[07:33] <haydar_> Wolfenstein Enemy-territory i get 125 FPS
[07:34] <haydar_> and on 30+ players 60-90
[07:34] <raylu> haydar_, what graphics card are you using and what is the driver specified in xorg.conf?
[07:34] <haydar_> ATi Radeon 96600
[07:34] <haydar_> 9600*
[07:34] <haydar_> fglrx
[07:35] <raylu> o.0. i've never tried wow, but i think some people said wine worked just fine for it
[07:35] <haydar_> Well i tried wine
[07:35] <haydar_> totally crap on wine
[07:35] <haydar_> Cedega runs fine
[07:35] <haydar_> like on windows
[07:35] <raylu> :(
[07:35] <haydar_> until i login
[07:35] <haydar_> then it all stutters very bad
[07:35] <haydar_> Maybe this is the problem
[07:36] <haydar_> I installed WoW with wine
[07:36] <haydar_> and i'm doing this in terminal
[07:36] <raylu> possibly. i don't really understand winex since i've never used it
[07:36] <haydar_> cedega /...../WoW.exe
[07:37] <raylu> eh? why not just cd to the directory with wow.exe and cedega from there?
[07:37] <haydar_> Yea i do that
[07:37] <haydar_> It works
[07:37] <haydar_> only the ingame lag
[07:37] <haydar_> makes it unplayble
[07:37] <haydar_> Raylu maybe you know how to trace problems
[07:37] <raylu> the thing is, if you use cedega /.../WoW.exe, you're starting from whatever other directory
[07:38] <raylu> which may not contain the other files WoW references
[07:38] <haydar_> C:/Program Files/World Of Warcraft
[07:38] <hakaisou> opinion:  WoW is supported better my vanilla Wine than by cedega
[07:38] <haydar_> Well maybe it is mine winecfg
[07:38] <raylu> there is no C:/, so i'm not sure what you mean
[07:38] <haydar_> drive_c
[07:38] <haydar_> :p
[07:38] <haydar_> the one that wine makes
[07:38] <raylu> ~/.wine/drive_c/?
[07:39] <haydar_> yep
[07:39] <JuJuBee> Can I use my version of UT2004 from windows to run on linux somehow (natively)?
[07:39] <raylu> cd to the wine directory and use just "cedega WoW.exe"
[07:39] <haydar_> Yep i did it
[07:39] <haydar_> Same
[07:39] <raylu> JuJuBee, ...no
[07:39] <raylu> oh :(
[07:39] <raylu> haydar_, have you tried winehq's instructions for wow
[07:39] <JuJuBee> I have to purchase another copy for linux?
[07:39] <sebsebseb> raylu:  here with the changes:  http://www.pastebin.co.uk/14901
[07:39] <haydar_> Yep.
[07:39] <haydar_> JuJuBee
[07:39] <raylu> JuJuBee, i thought ut2k4 was free for linux
[07:40] <haydar_> Free??!!
[07:40] <haydar_> :p
[07:40] <hakaisou> raylu:  WTF are you smoking?
[07:40] <JuJuBee> Hmmm. didnt know that...
[07:40] <hakaisou> and where can I get some?
[07:40] <raylu> sebsebseb, that looks good.
[07:40] <raylu> oh. the demo is free. sorry :P
[07:40] <hakaisou> there is a linux client?
[07:40] <haydar_> Just download it from a random ftp/torrent
[07:41] <sebsebseb> ok so re boot and it should all work fine?
[07:41] <sebsebseb> boot up Ubuntu again
[07:41] <hakaisou> raylu, there is a linux client for UT2k4?
[07:41] <raylu> JuJuBee, does the cd have a linux-installer.sh?
[07:41] <raylu> hakaisou, http://www.linuxelectrons.com/features/reviews/playing-unreal-tournament-2004-linux
[07:41] <raylu> sebsebseb, yes
[07:41] <JuJuBee> Cant find the CD.  Ive moved 3x since I bought it...
[07:42] <sebsebseb> ok well thanks if it works,  if not I am coming back
[07:42] <hakaisou> native support?
[07:42] <hakaisou> EPIC WIN!!!!!
[07:42] <raylu> do you have your cdkey (or does ut2k4 not use those)?
[07:42] <haydar_> Raylu
[07:42] <haydar_> Do you got the url for the turt on winehq
[07:42] <haydar_> :$
[07:42] <raylu> ill find it
[07:43] <JuJuBee> raylu : have it.
[07:43] <raylu> JuJuBee, i suppose you could download the cd
[07:43] <haydar_> I think i just found the problem
[07:43] <haydar_> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6482&iTestingId=11732
[07:43] <raylu> lol, haydar_, wow is a wine gold application
[07:44] <raylu> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6482
[07:44] <haydar_> Not for 7.04
[07:44] <hakaisou> works just fine for me
[07:44] <Ayabara___> hmm. I can't find the restricted drivers manager for kubuntu anywhere. maybe it doesn't exist?
[07:44] <raylu> oh. no idea then :(
[07:44] <raylu> Ayabara___, afaik, it doesn't
[07:44] <haydar_> Really i'm getting emo
[07:44] <haydar_> :(
[07:44] <Ayabara___> and of course now I found it
[07:44] <Ayabara___> actually
[07:44] <hakaisou> i've only had one issue with it in that I can't change my video settings in game lest i crash the game, but i got them preconfigured
[07:44] <raylu> lol? where is it, Ayabara___?
[07:44] <Ayabara___> "sudo restricted-manager"
[07:45] <raylu> o.0
[07:45] <raylu> ah. must be installed
[07:45] <raylu> good to know for later
[07:45] <Ayabara___> raylu: after doing "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager" like the ati howto said
[07:45] <haydar_> Thats not the problem here
[07:45] <haydar_> It runs 100% fine
[07:46] <haydar_> until it gets ingame
[07:46] <haydar_> Wish i could trace the problem
[07:49] <JohnM> Hi, i was following the instructions on this guide (http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/liste_portables/toshiba_satellite_pro_p-100-420) to get sound on my laptop, but when i run the 3rd last command in the "rgler le problme de son" section i get 'Error 1' from the 'make' instruction, anyone know what's going wrong?
[07:55] <sebsebseb> still coming
[07:55] <sebsebseb> up with error 17
[07:55] <sebsebseb> :(
[07:58] <haydar_> [: 337: 81: unexpected operator
[07:58] <haydar_> anyone knows
[07:58] <haydar_> what that mean
[07:58] <haydar_> s
[07:59] <Chousuke> do you have a space after the [ ?
[07:59] <haydar_> i just pasted it out of terminal
[07:59] <haydar_> like that
[08:00] <haydar_> Cedega WoW.exe
[08:00] <Chousuke> ah, right
[08:00] <Chousuke> well I don't know anything about cedega
[08:00] <haydar_> Well i have the same on Wine
[08:00] <Chousuke> I don't know much about that either.
[08:00] <haydar_> ;) u know someone that does know :p
[08:01] <Lynoure> He does?
[08:01] <Chousuke> maybe you should ask on #wine or whatever the channel is
[08:02] <Lynoure> Cedega probably has support forums of it's own
[08:02] <haydar_> Well .>_<
[08:03] <seamus_ie> I'm trying to use konqueror to trnfer files via ftp but when I open an ftp site (ftp:/username@ftp.site.com) it displays it as a web page. How can I change this to a file browser view?
[08:03] <kakarotto> espaol
[08:03] <kakarotto> ??
[08:04] <kakarotto> cual es la sala en espaol
[08:04] <kakarotto> ?
[08:05] <K-Ryan> Hey everybody!
[08:05] <kane_> hey whats the best way to turn /home into its own partition?
[08:05] <kakarotto> necesito ayuda con el mp3
[08:05] <kakarotto> y los videos
[08:05] <haydar_> How, can i test if i got the newest ATi driver avi
[08:05] <haydar_> Maybe its the driver
[08:05] <K-Ryan> !es | kakarotto
[08:06] <ubotu> kakarotto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:06] <K-Ryan> haydar_ Ati driver avi?
[08:06] <hendaus> can anyone help me please
[08:06] <haydar_> How do you mean.
[08:07] <K-Ryan> What do you mean by the "avi" at the end?
[08:07] <haydar_> availible
[08:07] <haydar_> or something :p
[08:07] <K-Ryan> Oh, alright
[08:07] <K-Ryan> Thought you were talking about .avi, a confused person
[08:07] <haydar_> Is there a way to check it . :p
[08:07] <haydar_> haha ;)
[08:08] <K-Ryan> I haven't used Ati in a while, but you don't use the official drivers right?
[08:08] <K-Ryan> Ah hold on, I might as well look something up before I ramble
[08:08] <K-Ryan> !ati
[08:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:08] <haydar_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:08] <haydar_> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[08:08] <haydar_> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600
[08:08] <haydar_> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[08:08] <haydar_> Current version
[08:08] <haydar_> fglrxinfo
[08:09] <luca> hi
[08:09] <luca> does someone here use bibus?
[08:10] <K-Ryan> haydar_: The first step is to enter the following line in your terminal.
[08:10] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[08:11] <haydar_> Okay its installing
[08:11] <K-Ryan> That should take a little while so let me know when that finishes.
[08:11] <haydar_> Atm, i have D3 support
[08:11] <haydar_> All works
[08:11] <K-Ryan> Oh, right
[08:11] <haydar_> Only thing i wanna know if i have the newest version avaliable
[08:11] <haydar_> ;)
[08:11] <K-Ryan> By the way, you're running Feisty?
[08:11] <haydar_> Yep
[08:11] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[08:11] <haydar_> 7.04
[08:12] <haydar_> Kubuntu
[08:12] <K-Ryan> hendadaus: What's the problem?
[08:12] <K-Ryan> Well I knew it was Kubuntu =P
[08:12] <K-Ryan> haydar_: This program is either going to be able to tell you or not, otherwise I'm out of ideas.
[08:12] <mahdi> what was the name of that kdm replacement?
[08:12] <K-Ryan> Sorry I'm not a linux guru, but I try ;)
[08:12] <haydar_> :P
[08:12] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  i am using kubuntu dapper, and now i have burned the fiesty on cd, what should i do?
[08:13] <K-Ryan> handaus: Sorry for mispelling your name #1
[08:13] <K-Ryan> Damn it!
[08:13] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Okay, I haven't upgraded from a CD but I know it can be done.
[08:13] <K-Ryan> !upgrade
[08:13] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:14] <K-Ryan> I'll see if that has a walk through for it
[08:15] <hendaus> K-Ryan: but i have dapper not edgy
[08:15] <jake> guys how do i install a log in theme?
[08:15] <K-Ryan> It includes that as well.
[08:15] <K-Ryan> jake: KDE Menu > System settings > Splash Screen
[08:16] <K-Ryan> hendaus: This does not recommend skipping versions, ie. Dapper -> Feisty
[08:16] <K-Ryan> Unless you plan on using a fresh install.
[08:16] <K-Ryan> Rather than upgrading.
[08:16] <Greenery> i kept getting X Error BadDevice when using Konsole. Is that normal?
[08:16] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  i am newbie on this, i download now the fiesty 7.4 and burn into a cd, so what can i do to make upgrade
[08:17] <K-Ryan> hendaus: What is your primary language?
[08:17] <jake> not the splash screen, i mean the log in screen where you promp to type your password
[08:17] <BluesKaj> K-Ryan, wouldn't it be safer if he moved his home file to differnt partition than root and then he could just overwrite the OS in / .. ?
[08:17] <K-Ryan> jake: same menu.
[08:17] <K-Ryan> BluesKaj: I wouldn't be able to say, I've never done it.
[08:17] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  espanish english
[08:18] <hendaus> why
[08:18] <K-Ryan> Have you tried !es
[08:18] <K-Ryan> Oh that doesn't work, hold on
[08:18] <K-Ryan> !es
[08:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:18] <K-Ryan> That?
[08:18] <K-Ryan> I don't know if it would be easier for you.
[08:18] <BluesKaj> I tried it and it was successful to some degree but I screwed up mtab so i had to reinstall clean
[08:18] <K-Ryan> Well there you go =P
 in what area there? i couldnt see it. it looks like this area is only for splash screens
[08:19] <hendaus> K-Ryan: i am using kubuntu english, so i want english :)
[08:19] <K-Ryan> Oh wait you mean the actual box?
[08:19] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Alright, whichever is easier for you.
[08:19] <BluesKaj> hehe, well still a noob in some areas :/
[08:19] <K-Ryan> Me too =P
[08:19] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  i like english
[08:19] <K-Ryan> jake: you mean the actual pop up box?
[08:20] <jake> yes..
[08:20] <K-Ryan> Not sure if you can change that, if you can I don't know how.
[08:20] <K-Ryan> Ask around though, I'm sure someone knows.
[08:20] <haydar_> Guys.
[08:20] <haydar_> I got a mx519
[08:20] <haydar_> 518*
[08:20] <haydar_> And i have readen a guide
[08:20] <haydar_> it tells me to edit this
[08:20] <haydar_> wait paste bin
[08:20] <jake> ive searched the forums through the net but i couldnt find the answer for kubuntu useras
[08:21] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  i am already now
[08:21] <Greenery> should I worry about the X Error that keeps popping out when I use Konsole?
[08:21] <K-Ryan> hendaus: One second
[08:21] <hendaus> ok
[08:21] <K-Ryan> hendaus: You are just upgrading right, not a clean install?
[08:22] <haydar_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21875/
[08:22] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  yes
[08:23] <Ayabara___> bah. tv out from a laptop was not easy (for me)
[08:23] <K-Ryan> Alright
[08:23] <haydar_> :P i dont want another xorg crash
[08:23] <The_Machine> I need a recommendation for a video card to be used on a system that is running Kubuntu Feisty..  (I have a budget of about $100).  Should I go ATI or nvidia?  Anyone have a suggestion?
[08:23] <K-Ryan> Can anyone help haydar_ with a version upgrade from CD?
[08:23] <haydar_> not me :p
[08:23] <K-Ryan> The_Machine: Nvidia, definitely.
[08:23] <hendaus> K-Ryan: first i install kubuntu dapper and now i got fiesty and burn it on cd, so what can i do booting from cd or click at start.exe from cd
[08:24] <K-Ryan> hendaus: If you reinstall from the CD without making any changes to your current version it will just overwrite everything, not what you want.
[08:24] <K-Ryan> Like a fresh install.
[08:24] <privet> the "global keyboard shortcuts": in which file is this stored?
[08:25] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  ok so tell me what can i do?
[08:25] <The_Machine> ri thought so K-Ryan..  just making sure.  So, nvidia anything?
[08:25] <K-Ryan> hendaus: I'm not really that sure, I'm looking through the help though.
[08:25] <K-Ryan> The_Machine: That part I'm not sure about, I myself have a GeForce 6600 and it works seemlessly.
[08:26] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure what the going price is on it.
[08:26] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  ok
[08:27] <The_Machine> hmm
[08:27] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Sorry I'm not really sure and I wouldn't want to guide you through something I'm not familiar with.
[08:28] <K-Ryan> Keep asking around though, I'm sure someone can help you.
[08:28] <lupul> need some help pls. how can i reset the audio driver back to generic?
[08:28] <hendaus> K-Ryan: ok thanx, i think you are kubuntu helper :)
[08:28] <chris_scummette> !adept-fix
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <K-Ryan> hendaus: I try ;)
[08:28] <chris_scummette> !adeptdix
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptdix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <chris_scummette> !adpt-fix
[08:28] <K-Ryan> !aptfix
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adpt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:29] <K-Ryan> ;)
[08:29] <chris_scummette> :D
[08:29] <BluesKaj> hendaus, the advice i have seen given here is; upgrade to edgy first and then to feisty ..,jumping directly from dapper to feisty is risky
[08:30] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix
[08:30] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:30] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  someone tell me about to burn fiesty into a cd and then install it
[08:32] <BluesKaj> hendaus, that's only if you don't need to save your files
[08:32] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  i dont have anything on my kubutu dapper, coz i made format yesterday
[08:33] <chris_scummette> how do i have the right to write in the usr/ directory?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> you formatted the dapper partition ?
[08:33] <chris_scummette> check permissions
[08:33] <chris_scummette> what does that mean
[08:34] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  i was using before windows, and yesterday i make format and install kubuntu dapper from a cd
[08:34] <BluesKaj> chris_scummette, kdesu kate /usr...............
[08:35] <BluesKaj> in the run command
[08:35] <chris_scummette> doesnt work
[08:35] <BluesKaj> hendaus, then just install feisty over dapper
[08:36] <BluesKaj> chris_scummette, kdesu kate /usr/filename
[08:36] <BluesKaj> what's the name of the file chris_scummette ?
[08:37] <raylu> chris_scummette, what do you want to do with the file?
[08:44] <chris_scummette> i want to copy the file to usr/share/amsn/skins
[08:44] <chris_scummette> this is a zip file
[08:44] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  from boot cd, or manually from the cd click at start.exe?
[08:44] <chris_scummette> its on my desktop
[08:44] <raylu> !cp
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <raylu> chris_scummette, use sudo cp file.zip sur/share/amsn/skins
[08:44] <BluesKaj> hendaus, boot
[08:45] <raylu> BluesKaj, don't you need to upgrade dapper -> edgy first?
[08:45] <hendaus> BluesKaj: is necessary to replace dapper to fiesty from sources.list?
[08:45] <BluesKaj> raylu, he has no personal files , he just installed dapper yesterday and wants to upgrade to feisty
[08:45] <HaSH> hmm anyone know of a good utility to stream music to a shoutcast server?
[08:45] <raylu> oh
[08:45] <BluesKaj> gstream
[08:45] <HaSH> hmm gstreamer will broadcast to a shoutcast server?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> !icecast
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <BluesKaj> hendaus, the sources list will be autmatically updated when you install feisty , then when it's installed you can edit the sources list by removing the # from the deb repositories
[08:45] <DaSkreech> !info icecast
[08:45] <ubotu> Package icecast does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Liar
[08:45] <HaSH> ok ok...i have a shoutcast server. im looking for a linux client to broadcast music on here to the shoutcast server...icecast is a server right?
[08:45] <haydar_> Guys
[08:45] <haydar_> i made a copy of my xorg.conf
[08:45] <haydar_> with
[08:45] <haydar_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[08:45] <mzanfardino> Ace2016: thank you for the link.  LiquidWeather with SuperKaramba is pretty slick.  I'd love it if it would automatically cycle through several selected cities, but other than that is does what I need...
[08:45] <haydar_> if it crashes
[08:45] <haydar_> how do i restore it
[08:45] <haydar_> so it uses the backup
[08:45] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  ok after done fiesty i told, i forgot to tell u if i boot from cd u have to make foramt or not?
[08:45] <raylu> HaSH, http://www.shoutcast.com/download/broadcast.phtml
[08:45] <bsundsrud> haydar_: just sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:45] <raylu> haydar_, sudo mv xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf
[08:45] <raylu> oh, i suppose cp is better
[08:45] <HaSH> raylu, ...yea i was hoping for a gui.... i have way to much music / way to little time to make a list of each song i want to play.
[08:45] <raylu> HaSH, oh :(
[08:45] <HaSH> yea...ive tried many things so far.
[08:45] <HaSH> maby wine with winamp?
[08:45] <hendaus> ok brb...,!
[08:45] <raylu> that's what i was thinking...
[08:45] <compilerwriter> hadar_ just rename the .bak to .conf
[08:45] <david__> XMMS is a clone of winamp for linux
[08:45] <raylu> or perhaps you could use a different server setup (as in not shoutcast)
[08:45] <HaSH> i tried wine with sam..but it didnt work
[08:45] <HaSH> david__, i know
[08:45] <BluesKaj> no hendaus when you run feisty you will have  a desktop with an install option on it , then when you follow the instructions just let the installer do the automatic partitioning for you .
[08:45] <HaSH> raylu, ...not my desission..
[08:45] <david__> oh ok, I butted in halfway through a conversation
[08:45] <chris_scummette> i cant unzip it in the destination file
[08:45] <chris_scummette> :(
[08:46] <chris_scummette> dpkg?
[08:46] <raylu> HaSH, there's really no need for the dj to be on linux
[08:46] <D_Ed> How do I set up GPG keys in Kmail?
[08:46] <HaSH> um.
[08:46] <bsundsrud> haydar_: if that complains, do sudo cp -f sourcefile destinationfile, which will force the copy
[08:46] <HaSH> yea there is
[08:46] <hendaus> ok
[08:46] <HaSH> i use linux and not windows.
[08:46] <HaSH> there for i should be able to use shoutcast.
[08:46] <bsundsrud> haydar_: where sourcefile and destination file are the xorg.conf's
[08:46] <haydar_> etc/X11
[08:46] <haydar_> i suppose
[08:46] <raylu> what I meant was that having the server on linux is good
[08:46] <bsundsrud> yeah
[08:47] <bsundsrud> unless you cd /etc/X11
[08:47] <raylu> having the dj on linux is unnecessary. but i know what you mean
[08:47] <haydar_> i'm trying to make my mouse working
[08:47] <alexicon> where can i add an /etc/init.d/ script for start up?
[08:47] <HaSH> raylu, ...eh i totaly feel dif.....i dont think thats right at all
[08:47] <haydar_> but i'm afraid to fuck this up
[08:47] <bsundsrud> haydar_: what kind of mouse?
[08:47] <haydar_> Mx518
[08:47] <haydar_> because a while ago i tried
[08:47] <raylu> alexicon, in.../etc/init.d...
[08:47] <bsundsrud> extra buttons, or what doesnt work?
[08:47] <haydar_> Mouse4 and mouse5
[08:47] <alexicon> raylu: if i want the script there to start on boot
[08:47] <haydar_> the extra buttons
[08:48] <haydar_> mouse4 works as mouse2
[08:48] <haydar_> mouse5 works as mouse3
[08:48] <haydar_> thats not right
[08:48] <alexicon> mrrr yeah haydar_ i have an mx1000 and the side buttons used to work, they havent since breezy for me tho
[08:48] <raylu> alexicon, did you chmod +x?
[08:48] <bsundsrud> alexicon: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/script /etc/rc5.d/51script
[08:48] <alexicon> cheers bsundsrud
[08:48] <bsundsrud> alexicon: alos
[08:48] <bsundsrud> alexicon: er also
[08:48] <compilerwriter> haydar_  One should work with ones Xorg config files the same as one works out ones salvation.  With fear and trembling.  So you should just be careful like you are and work slowly and methodically.  Your idea of backing up along the way is good practise.  You can do it my friend.
[08:50] (bsundsrud/#kubuntu) alexicon: you chmod +x it?
[08:50] (bsundsrud/#kubuntu) the file, not the link
[08:50] (haydar_/#kubuntu) i got a tut
[08:50] (bsundsrud/#kubuntu) ok
[08:50] (haydar_/#kubuntu) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Activate_side-mouse-buttons_in_FireFox
[08:50] (bsundsrud/#kubuntu) then just take backups and you'll do fine
[08:50] (alexicon/#kubuntu) yeah they all work and have the right mods
[08:51] (haydar_/#kubuntu) But its for firefox
[08:51] (bsundsrud/#kubuntu) good good
[08:51] (alexicon/#kubuntu) just needed to add it to the boot up
[08:51] (haydar_/#kubuntu) i need it for games tbh
[08:51] (haydar_/#kubuntu) :P
[08:51] (bsundsrud/#kubuntu) haha
[08:51] (haydar_/#kubuntu) Dunno if this is going to make it work
[08:51] (haydar_/#kubuntu) in games
[08:51] (haydar_/#kubuntu) :'[ what a hell of a job this rofl :D
[08:51] <bsundsrud> hah
[08:52] <bsundsrud> im used to editing xorg.confs now, i can whip one up from scratch.  Dual monitors in ubuntu is something they should really work on
[08:52] <alexicon> make sure you keep copies of all your config files once you get it working haydar ;)
[08:52] <haydar_> ok
[08:52] <bsundsrud> Fedora and SuSE handle them fine, but i have to craft my own xorg for (k)ubuntu
[08:52] <haydar_> i pray for me
[08:52] <haydar_> i'm restarting X
[08:53] <haydar_> I think it worked :D
[08:53] <haydar_> i restarted X
[08:53] <haydar_> ctrl+alt+del
[08:53] <haydar_> and it went fine
[08:53] <haydar_> xD
[08:53] <bsundsrud> ctrl alt backspace?
[08:53] <haydar_> yes
[08:53] <haydar_> :p
[08:53] <bsundsrud> ok
[08:54] <bsundsrud> well if you still have a mouse, thats a good sign. how bout scrolling?
[08:54] <haydar_> works fine
[08:54] <haydar_> XD
[08:54] <bsundsrud> good deal
[08:55] <haydar_> Its easy
[08:55] <haydar_> tbh
[08:55] <haydar_> But yea the fear :p
[08:55] <haydar_> of booting into textmode
[08:55] <haydar_> :DD:D
[08:55] <raylu> oh no. a console. it's terrible.
[08:55] <bsundsrud> haha
[08:55] <haydar_> its black mesa :(
[08:56] <bsundsrud> i love the console
[08:56] <bsundsrud> the power...
[08:56] <haydar_> yea 2 powerful imo
[08:56] <haydar_> :-D
[08:56] <bsundsrud> with great power comes great responsibility
[08:56] <bsundsrud> haha
[08:56] <haydar_> haha:p
[08:56] <haydar_> i'm using kubuntu for 3 days now
[08:57] <haydar_> :P i just had enough of winXP
[08:57] <haydar_> C:/Format
[08:57] <linenoise> with great power also comes hot women
[08:57] <raylu> tried vista yet?
[08:57] <haydar_> Yep
[08:57] <haydar_> 780 MB RAM
[08:57] <raylu> linenoise, i couldn't find any hot girls in su :(
[08:57] <linenoise> just sitting?
[08:57] <linenoise> 780MB?
[08:57] <raylu> that's because of superfetch
[08:57] <haydar_> yep
[08:57] <haydar_> but games where like
[08:57] <haydar_> 1/2 FPS
[08:57] <haydar_> all
[08:57] <bsundsrud> linenoise: theres a definite lack of hot women in linux, unfortunately :)
[08:57] <raylu> the ram usage _seems_ high, that's all.
[08:57] <raylu> oh yeah. it's also bad for gaming
[08:57] <bsundsrud> not to disparage any ladies here
[08:57] <pulaski> hello
[08:58] <haydar_> and i game alot :P
[08:58] <haydar_> Q3 Engine
[08:58] <haydar_> and WoW
[08:58] <chris_scummette> how do i extract a zip file into another file?
[08:58] <chris_scummette> dpkg?
[08:58] <haydar_> but WoW i just cant get it working good
[08:58] <pulaski> I'm running ubuntu server 7.04 w/ LAMP
[08:58] <raylu> http://www.patrick.fremont.ca.us/media/linux/ (NSFW, I think)
[08:58] <haydar_> its a common issue atm
[08:58] <bsundsrud> what kind of zip chris_scummette?
[08:58] <linenoise> yeah.... the less women look like RMS the better... no offense RMS if you're lurking... I'm just sayin....  That's a wizard of a beard
[08:58] <chris_scummette> a zipped file
[08:58] <bsundsrud> chris_scummette: a .zip or a .gz or .bz2?
[08:58] <raylu> chris_scummette, you could always double-click on it
[08:58] <bsundsrud> chris_scummette: which are all 'zipped'
[08:59] <pulaski> I've made ~/public_html the dir from wich pages are served
[08:59] <bsundsrud> yeah double clicking will open ark, most likely
[08:59] <chris_scummette> nope i need the console command cause i cant access the destination folder without bieing su
[08:59] <chris_scummette> a zip, of course;)
[08:59] <raylu> pulaski, depending on your server, I don't think ~ is valid
[08:59] <raylu> chris_scummette, kdesu konqueror
[09:00] <raylu> chris_scummette, and as long as you're unzipping to somewhere where you have write access, you don't even need to be root
[09:00] <bsundsrud> chris_scummette: or if you really wanna do the console, sudo unzip file.zip -d /path/you/want/it/in
[09:00] <chris_scummette> no protocol specified :(
[09:00] <haydar_> What mediaplayer
[09:00] <pulaski> can someone show me a doc that will show how to configure apache2 so it will execute cgi scripts from ~/public_html/cgi-bin?
[09:00] <haydar_> do you guys use
[09:00] <raylu> huh?
[09:00] <chris_scummette> ok!
[09:00] <haydar_> kaffeine?
[09:00] <haydar_> vlc?
[09:00] <haydar_> T_T
[09:01] <raylu> kaffeine, vlc, winamp and, occasionally, wmp
[09:01] <bsundsrud> haydar_: kaffeine is pretty good usually, i use VLC in windows
[09:01] <haydar_> VLC in windows is much better
[09:01] <haydar_> then the Nix version
[09:01] <haydar_> in nix it feels " cheap "
[09:01] <haydar_> :P
[09:01] <chris_scummette> Nice raylu
[09:01] <chris_scummette> thanks
[09:02] <bsundsrud> haydar_: or, mplayer with kplayer frontend
[09:03] <raylu> chris_scummette, np
[09:03] <haydar_> Good news
[09:03] <haydar_> W:ET
[09:04] <haydar_> works like a charm
[09:04] <haydar_> mouse4
[09:04] <haydar_> and mouse5
[09:04] <haydar_> all :D
[09:04] <haydar_> i can finally /kill ingame keke :P
[09:04] <tee-zett> hi, i have some difficulties with my wlan - it always forgets the WEP key
[09:04] <chris_scummette> wahts does -d stand for ?
[09:05] <tee-zett> in which config file should be stored best?
[09:05] <raylu> tee-zett, are you using knetworkmanager?
[09:05] <haydar_> my wishlist atm : patch q3 engine with alsa
[09:05] <raylu> chris_scummette, in what? unzip?
[09:05] <tee-zett> not yet, raylu
[09:05] <chris_scummette> yes
[09:05] <raylu> tee-zett, then what is asking for your wep key?
[09:05] <raylu> chris_scummette, unzip --help
[09:05] <raylu> --help works on almost everything
[09:05] <chris_scummette> i just want to understand what commands i type
[09:06] <chris_scummette> ok
[09:06] <tee-zett> i set the key with iwconfig
[09:06] <raylu> chris_scummette, if that doesn't work, man unzip
[09:06] <tee-zett> cause knetworkmanager did not work
[09:06] <chris_scummette> it worked
[09:06] <chris_scummette> i just wanted to understand how this works
[09:06] <raylu> tee-zett, kmenu>system settings>network settings>select network properties>specify wep key
[09:07] <chris_scummette> typing back stupidly is dumb i think
[09:07] <chris_scummette> i try to understand the way it goes
[09:07] <raylu> chris_scummette, did you read "man unzip"?
[09:08] <chris_scummette> nope
[09:08] <raylu> pgdown, pgup, and q
[09:08] <raylu> use those to navigate manpages
[09:08] <raylu> or up and down, i suppose
[09:08] <tee-zett> raylu: this is the same dialog like in knetworkmanager
[09:08] <raylu> tee-zett, it is :P
[09:08] <chris_scummette> ok!
[09:08] <raylu> tee-zett, after specifying your key, save it and let it save the network settings. it hasn't asked me for my wep key since
[09:09] <tee-zett> raylu, there the key was stored, but it always forgets the gateway adress
[09:09] <raylu> tee-zett, oh...have you specified that?
[09:10] <tee-zett> yes, what else?
[09:10] <tee-zett> dhcp did not work
[09:11] <raylu> o.0 :(
[09:12] <tee-zett> i found that settings are stored in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:12] <tee-zett> but i could not find where the key is set there
[09:13] <raylu> you may want to try looking for the ascii/hex version (whichever you're not searching for)
[09:14] <tee-zett> that's not really different - but i need the general setting
[09:16] <raylu> oh...heh, perhaps i should take a look
[09:16] <raylu> wireless-essid 2WIRE668
[09:16] <raylu> wireless-key 1234567890
[09:16] <raylu> that's what i have
[09:16] <tee-zett> where is this? in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:17] <raylu> yes
[09:17] <raylu> perhaps you could just stick it in there
[09:17] <tee-zett> thanks, i will try - this is also WEP?
[09:17] <raylu> yes
[09:17] <raylu> !kwifimanager
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwifimanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <raylu> \=
[09:17] <raylu> you could also try that, though
[09:17] <raylu> !info kwifimanager
[09:17] <ubotu> kwifimanager: wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 234 kB, installed size 800 kB
[09:18] <tee-zett> then this should work - i just found the settings for wpa
[09:18] <raylu> o.0
[09:18] <Ayabara____> anyone know how I can revert/reconfigure my xorg.conf automatically?
[09:19] <LjL> !xconfig > Ayabara____    (Ayabara____, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:19] <raylu> LjL, who maintains the bot?
[09:20] <Ayabara____> LjL: thanks in this channel too :-)
[09:20] <LjL> raylu: Dennis Kaarsemaker
[09:21] <raylu> !chmod
[09:21] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:21] <raylu> o.0
[09:21] <raylu> it's been fixed
[09:22] <LjL> what's been fixed?
[09:23] <K-Ryan> I'm back
[09:24] <raylu> the chmod command
[09:24] <raylu> it used to talk about su
[09:25] <michael__> okay something is way messsed up
[09:25] <michael__> i just restarted and thins are taking like 3min to load a webpage
[09:25] <michael__> and konqueror says its running at 2.6kb/s
[09:25] <michael__> any ideas ?
[09:25] <K-Ryan> What did you do before you restarted?
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Is it all internet requiring applications?
[09:26] <michael__> re installed wine i believe
[09:26] <michael__> yeh konqueror/firefox
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Bad internet?
[09:26] <michael__> real slow
[09:26] <chris_scummette> !mp3
[09:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:26] <michael__> actually nevermind, its randomly working again
[09:26] <raylu> chris_scummette, trying to play an mp3?
[09:26] <chris_scummette> where can i fond the codecs for amarok
[09:26] <chris_scummette> lol yep
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Strange, somebody probably hit a pole or something michael__ =P
[09:26] <raylu> when you play an mp3, doesn't it ask you to install it?
[09:26] <K-Ryan> No raylu
[09:27] <chris_scummette> yes but it crashes
[09:27] <K-Ryan> It just doesn't
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Well it didn't for me at least..
[09:27] <raylu> oh...
[09:27] <chris_scummette> adept has it i think
[09:27] <michael__> lol
[09:27] <raylu> sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[09:27] <michael__> ive installed like every codec possible
[09:27] <michael__> :P
[09:27] <raylu> (i think)
[09:27] <chris_scummette> :D
[09:28] <michael__> i installed all the ubuntu-studio things and thennn all the codecs
[09:28] <K-Ryan> just go for libxine-extracodecs
[09:28] <K-Ryan> raylu what's aptitude for?
[09:29] <raylu> !aptitude
[09:29] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:29] <K-Ryan> Oh, that's neat
[09:29] <raylu> i don't know why people prefer apt-get
[09:30] <raylu> !gogo
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gogo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <raylu> !info gogo
[09:30] <ubotu> gogo: mp3 encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.39b-7 (feisty), package size 280 kB, installed size 736 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:30] <raylu> lol............
[09:30] <K-Ryan> I don't think people know about aptitude
[09:30] <raylu> what would you do if your mp3 was tagged "encoded with gogo"
[09:30] <peyote> Is it possible to use synaptic with aptitude as a backend?
[09:30] <raylu> the veterans in here and on websites often show commands with apt-get
[09:31] <raylu> peyote, that makes no sense. both of them are just apt backends
[09:31] <raylu> aptitude is a frontend
[09:31] <raylu> *are just using apt as backends
[09:31] <peyote> i mean to get the dependencies manged by aptitude... so unneeded packages are removed if main packet is deleted
[09:32] <raylu> i think synaptic might do that by itself...though i never really used it unless i had to
[09:32] <peyote> ok, will have a look thanks..
[09:38] <Ayabara____> when I choose monitor #2 in my "Monitor & Display" setup, is that the settings for my vga output?
[09:40] <Ayabara____> after I configure that one I get a Section "Monitor" and a Section "Screen" in my xorg.conf
[09:40] <raylu> it depends on where you specify the identifier
[09:40] <cox377_> can someone look @ this pastebin and see what i'm doing wrong with my java?
[09:40] <cox377_> http://pastebin.ca/500868
[09:41] <raylu> cox377_, install one of those...
[09:41] <BlackBsd> does the kubuntu knetwork manager use wpa supplicant?
[09:41] <cox377_> raylu: but i've got JRE6 installed
[09:41] <BlackBsd> if so where does it store its configuration, so i can ripp off the settings
[09:41] <raylu> cox377_, do you know where?
[09:42] <cox377_> raylu: i installed it via apt-get
[09:42] <raylu> cox377_, i'm sure there's a better way, but you could go into adept, click the package you installed, show details, and look at installed files
[09:43] <cox377_> raylu: once i've done that what do i do?
[09:43] <cox377_> raylu: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[09:43] <cox377_> thats the command i used
[09:43] <raylu> go into adept, click the package you installed, show details, and look at installed files
[09:44] <raylu> (in this case, sun-java6-jre)
[09:44] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  ok i insert the cd fiesty and then i click install and after  minutes it appears a new desktop, then my connection cannot work , i dont know hwy
[09:44] <blekos_> hi, i've run this blekos@blekos-laptop:/media/My Book/Backup$ sudo rsync -arvu /home /etc /opt
[09:44] <blekos_> but i just see my /  to be 1 gb less
[09:45] <Ace2016> cox377_: did you run this after you installed it? sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:46] <raylu> blekos_, rsync sends files...so, I don't understand the question
[09:46] <ubuntu> Need help. Is there any why to open a harddrive in linux that are used to Windows?
[09:46] <blekos_> well, i thought i asked it to send file to my usb hd but i cant see them
[09:47] <Ace2016> ubuntu: mount it
[09:47] <raylu> ubuntu, yes, linux can read ntfs
[09:47] <Ace2016> ubuntu: you can read and write to fat32, only read on ntfs
[09:47] <cox377_> raylu: http://pastebin.ca/500880
[09:47] <SlimeyPete> Ace2016: you can read on ntfs too.
[09:47] <SlimeyPete> *write
[09:47] <BluesKaj> hendaus, perhaps Ace2016 can help with eth0 , I'm not very good at network stuff
[09:47] <ubuntu> Only getting an error message...
[09:47] <raylu> but it's buggy/unstable
[09:47] <cox377_> raylu: i've copied it down from "installed files"
[09:47] <SlimeyPete> !ntfs-3g
[09:47] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:47] <Ace2016> SlimeyPete: my guess is ubuntu is using the live cd
[09:47] <blekos_> if lets say, i had made a mistkake and asked rsync to send files to the same directory from which, it gets its date
[09:48] <blekos_> what would happen?
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> raylu: not really. It's fine fo esktop use. Wouldn't want to use it on a workstation yet, though.
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> Ace2016: ah right. Good point.
[09:48] <raylu> [14:45:20]  <Ace2016> cox377_: did you run this after you installed it? sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:49] <ubuntu> Mount. Cant find \dev\hdal in \etc\fstab or \etc\mtab... What is wrong_
[09:49] <raylu> SlimeyPete, the point is, you risk data loss
[09:49] <cox377_> raylu: when i run that command the different java's arn't listed
[09:49] <raylu> ubuntu, what command did you run?
[09:49] <Danker> Hi
[09:49] <cox377_> raylu: my lie
[09:49] <raylu> cox377_, huh?
[09:49] <ubuntu> command_
[09:49] <ubuntu> ??
[09:49] <cox377_> raylu:
[09:49] <cox377_> There is only 1 program which provides java
[09:49] <cox377_> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[09:50] <raylu> ubuntu, what did you type in to mount
[09:50] <ubuntu> just did right click on the hard drive and pressed mount...
[09:50] <raylu> ubuntu, where did you right-click it from?
[09:50] <ubuntu> system menu
[09:51] <raylu> cox377_, for me, java is installed in /usr/bin/java
[09:51] <cox377_> : (
[09:51] <raylu> ubuntu, you mean /media?
[09:51] <raylu> *storage media?
[09:51] <raylu> cox377_, as in the executable is there. i assume it's a link to something else
[09:51] <ubuntu> yes
[09:52] <raylu> ubuntu, do you know the name of the device that you want to mount? like sda1?
[09:52] <Ace2016> ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java /usr/bin/java should do it
[09:52] <ubuntu> You mean what it's name on windows_
[09:52] <ubuntu> ?
[09:52] <ayreon81forgot> hello doods! :)
[09:53] <raylu> ubuntu, er...ok, do this: ls /dev | grep sda
[09:53] <raylu> [14:52:16]  <Ace2016> ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java /usr/bin/java should do it
[09:53] <hendaus> Ace2016: i have kubuntu dapper installed, and now i have burn the fiesty on a cd, i boot the fiesty from cd and hit install,after 10 minutes it appears the desktop and connection failed :(, the i make restart and it shows on the black screen umount is busy and cannot find
[09:54] <cox377_> raylu: for me?
[09:54] <ubuntu> raylu, where to pu that command?? :S
[09:55] <raylu> cox377_, yes.
[09:55] <raylu> ubuntu, are you in kubuntu or ubuntu? are you on a livecd?
[09:55] <cox377_> raylu: ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/java' to `/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java': File exists
[09:55] <ubuntu> livecd kubuntu
[09:55] <raylu> cox377_, try "which java"
[09:55] <raylu> ubuntu, alt+f2, konsole
[09:56] <ubuntu> ok, when I insert the command there I only get a black screen window...
[09:56] <raylu> cox377_, actually, that command is backwards
[09:56] <cox377_> raylu: literally "which java" in the command?
[09:56] <raylu> cox377_, reverse the two. and yes, literally
[09:57] <raylu> ubuntu, are you sure? what happens when you type: ls /dev
[09:57] <cox377_> raylu: lol sorry man, java which?
[09:57] <ubuntu> yellow text appear XD
[09:57] <hendaus> brb ....
[09:57] <raylu> cox377_, if "which java" returns nothing, do the ln command but reverse the two arguments
[09:57] <raylu> cox377_, the ln commmand was the one that was backwards, sorry
[09:57] <cox377_> so "java which"
[09:57] <ubuntu> raylu, a lot of text appear.
[09:57] <Ace2016> raylu and cox377, run file /usr/bin/java && file /etc/alternatives/java  this will show you whats going on
[09:57] <raylu> cox377_, no, "which java"
[09:58] <Ace2016> i'm guessing cox377 has a borken symlink there
[09:58] <raylu> o.0, why does mine point to /etc/alternatives/java?
[09:58] <cox377_> raybash: which java: command not found
[09:58] <raylu> ubuntu, ok, now run the command: ls /dev | grep -i da
[09:59] <cox377_> raylu: ***
[09:59] <Ace2016> raylu and cox377, run file /usr/bin/java && file /etc/alternatives/java  && file /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun       this will clear it up,
[09:59] <ubuntu> ok, and then__
[09:59] <ubuntu> ??
[09:59] <Ace2016> its just a mess of symlinks, if one is broken it won't work
[09:59] <raylu> ubuntu, what does it say?
[10:00] <raylu> that's like...a quadruple symlink...
[10:00] <ubuntu> hda, hda1, hda2, hda5, ptyda, ttyda
[10:00] <cox377_> Ace2016: umm you want me to pastebin the results?
[10:00] <raylu> ubuntu, ok, do you know which is your windows partition?
[10:00] <raylu> cox377_, i think you can just paste them here
[10:00] <ubuntu> hda5
[10:00] <cox377_> cox377@cox377-desktop:~$ file /usr/bin/java && file /etc/alternatives/java  && file /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[10:00] <cox377_> /usr/bin/java: broken symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/java'
[10:00] <cox377_> /etc/alternatives/java: broken symbolic link to `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java'
[10:00] <cox377_> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun: symbolic link to `java-6-sun-1.6.0.00'
[10:00] <raylu> ubuntu, cd /media
[10:01] <raylu> ubuntu, sudo mkdir hda5
[10:01] <raylu> ubuntu, sudo mount /dev/hda5 hda5
[10:01] <dwidmann> /etc/alternatives/java is a symlink to your default jvm, set by the update-alternatives command
[10:01] <dwidmann> IIRC
[10:02] <cox377_> dwidmann: as in "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[10:02] <raylu> he could just manually symlink /etc/alternatives/java to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[10:03] <ubuntu> Error : Could not enter folder /media/hda5
[10:03] <raylu> ubuntu, on which command?
[10:03] <cox377_> lol think i've bust it
[10:03] <ubuntu> after the mount command
[10:03] <Ace2016> raylu: maybe the best thing would be is to install anotehr java package, then alternatives realises it needs the symlink and fixes itself, and then he could run   sudo update-alternatives --config java   to pick java 6 again
[10:03] <dwidmann> cox, you'd need the full path to the binary probably, so tack /bin/java onto the end of that path and you should have it
[10:04] <Ace2016> another*
[10:04] <raylu> ubuntu, what does ls show?
[10:04] <ubuntu> When I try to acces the folder or?
[10:04] <raylu> Ace2016, but we know which symlink is broken and it's a 1-line fix
[10:04] <raylu> ubuntu, ...when you type "ls"
[10:05] <cox377_> Ace2016: i installed 1.4, when running the alternative command it allowe me to select 6 again
[10:05] <ubuntu> hda1 hda2 hda5
[10:05] <Ace2016> raylu: but if he ever updates java its going to mess it up again
[10:05] <raylu> ubuntu, and you couldn't mount it with "sudo mount /dev/hda5 hda5"
[10:05] <raylu> ?
[10:05] <ubuntu> no.
[10:05] <raylu> Ace2016, if he updates java, won't it update the symlink from alternatives?
[10:06] <raylu> ubuntu, are you sure the error you showed me wasn't from cd hda5?
[10:06] <ubuntu> when I try cd /media/hda5, I get message : Permission denied
[10:06] <raylu> oh...lol, that's what i thought :P
[10:06] <raylu> you said that was the error you got from using mount
[10:06] <ubuntu> ops XD
[10:06] <raylu> you can either browse it as root or
[10:06] <ubuntu> how to do that_
[10:06] <ubuntu> ?
[10:07] <raylu> sudo chown ubuntu hda5
[10:07] <raylu> using kdesu konqueror
[10:07] <raylu> (to browse as root)
[10:07] <Ace2016> raylu: doubt it since when he just installed java v6 and it didn't create the correct symlink
[10:07] <raylu> (sudo chown ubuntu hda5 assumes your username is ubuntu)
[10:07] <raylu> Ace2016, i guess.
[10:08] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: this conversation seems familliar :)
[10:08] <raylu> dogatemycomputer, i remember you from yesterday, though i can't remember having a conversation likes this
[10:09] <ubuntu> do not work when using konqueror...
[10:09] <Ace2016> sudo fdisk -l, find the fat32 or ntfs partition in the middle of that and remember what its /dev/* was, then do cd /media, sudo mkdir win, then sudo mount /dev/whatever win, then go into win and play about,
[10:09] <raylu> ubuntu, you must use kdesu konqueror (alt+f2)
[10:09] <raylu> Ace2016, he has it mounted, but its owned by root
[10:10] <ubuntu> nothing...
[10:10] <dwidmann> raylu: always bugs me that everyone does everything the hard way .... just say $USER instead of replace this with that or assuming such and such ... saves so much time ;)
[10:10] <raylu> ubuntu, i think you should use "sudo chown ubuntu hda5" after cd /media (assuming you're username is ubuntu)
[10:10] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: I was referring to the guy who was trying to access a fat32 partition.. and he kept getting "access denied" errors even after changing changing ownership..
[10:11] <raylu> oh. i forgot about $USER
[10:11] <raylu> dogatemycomputer, i might have been idle for that
[10:11] <dogatemycomputer> raylu:  i was online last week though.. so its been a while and i'm sure you've helped dozens since..
[10:11] <raylu> are you sure you weren't online yester?
[10:11] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: you were helping the guy although I can't remember his name.
[10:12] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: nope..  i only connect from the office.. and I had friends from out of town.  I haven't been here for like 4 days.
[10:12] <raylu> hm...
[10:12] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: just seems to be a common problem with linux.  the whole mounting process should be easier.
[10:13] <raylu> the again, in windows, it mounts it for you...you just don't really get to specify the mount point if it screws up
[10:13] <raylu> or any mount options...
[10:13] <raylu> or get any debug info on what happened...
[10:14] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: lol..  you are absolutely right..
[10:15] <raylu> what we need is a mount gui...
[10:15] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: not bashing linux.. just think its something we could do better for the average.. ummm..  user.
[10:15] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: exactly.
[10:15] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: something stupid-proof..
[10:15] <ubuntu> raylu, how the check username on the livecd?? XD
[10:15] <raylu> ubuntu, use $USER
[10:16] <raylu> you can also get your username in the konsole:
[10:16] <raylu> raylu@foor:~$
[10:16] <raylu> raylu is my username, foor is my computer name
[10:19] <dragan> anyone played with mirrors and repos?
[10:20] <raylu> dragan, sort of...why?
[10:20] <dragan> I have downloaded whole feisty repo by apt-mirror
[10:21] <raylu> o.0...you asked this not too long ago, didn't you?
[10:21] <dragan> now I want to use it as file repo.. not web/local repo
[10:21] <dragan> yes :-)
[10:21] <dragan> still no answer ...
[10:21] <raylu> have you tried pasting it to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?
[10:22] <dragan> hmmmm what will that do?
[10:22] <raylu> if it comes down to it, you could always install them manually with dpkg
[10:22] <raylu> dragan, i _think_ that's where apt downloads packages to before installing them
[10:22] <dragan> yes.. but since I wish to share that with other people...
[10:22] <raylu> share them..how?
[10:22] <raylu> on a LAN?
[10:23] <dragan> as repo... via usb rack
[10:23] <dragan> with people with no net.
[10:23] <dragan> would symlink do? that with /sources.list.d ?
[10:23] <raylu> dragan, no, that'd only be for yourself
[10:24] <raylu> a repos is out of the option if they have no net, i think
[10:24] <dragan> ln -s /media/usb/repostuff /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[10:24] <dragan> or it is other way around :-)
[10:25] <dragan> I use mc for that :-)
[10:25] <raylu> the usb rack connects one usb hd with multiple computers?
[10:25] <Daisuke-Ido> raylu: no it isn't, check out aptoncd
[10:25] <drkns> hello
[10:25] <jrick> I have a problem with kalzium.  Whenever I try to export a spectrum for an element as an image, kalzium crashes.  I think this is because a dependancy is not satisified.  Can anyone help?
[10:25] <raylu> !aptoncd
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <drkns> has anyone can help me with the blackberry?
[10:25] <raylu> Daisuke-Ido, ?
[10:25] <dragan> no.. usb rack is for external drive raylu
[10:25] <raylu> jrick, check the suggested packages
[10:25] <drkns> are there any software that i can use to recharge and use blackberry
[10:25] <Daisuke-Ido> http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[10:25] <dragan> one sata drive of 160GB
[10:25] <jrick> raylu where is that?
[10:26] <raylu> jrick, in adept-manager, choose the kalzium package and show details
[10:26] <jrick> ok, let me check
[10:27] <dragan> I just want to avoid having to install apache... and just link those repo files like for example DVD is added in sources.list
[10:27] <jrick> ok, adept isn't loading, i think i need to restart (again)
[10:27] <Daisuke-Ido> jrick: don't
[10:28] <Daisuke-Ido> the solution in linux isn't "oh it doesn't work, time for a reboot"
[10:28] <jrick> i know there's a command, but i don't know what it is
[10:28] <Daisuke-Ido> then *ask*
[10:28] <dragan> may billy be with you jrick ;-)
[10:28] <jrick> ok, what is the command?
[10:28] <raylu> what happens when you load adept?
[10:29] <SlimeyPete> jrick: it might be worth installing synaptic. I find that it's more stable
[10:29] <Daisuke-Ido> try going into ksysguard
[10:29] <Daisuke-Ido> and see if adept is running
[10:29] <dragan> or type ps -aux | grep adept
[10:29] <Daisuke-Ido> dragan's is quicker, i was just going the gui route.
[10:29] <dragan> ctrl+esc
[10:30] <dragan> is shortcut for ksysguard
[10:30] <Daisuke-Ido> dragan: apparently not by default in feisty
[10:30] <Daisuke-Ido> ctrl+esc brings up the kmenu
[10:30] <dragan> hmmm is so... worked for me on laptop...
[10:30] <dragan> but I will have to check...
[10:30] <raylu> o.0, ctrl+esc is for windows start menu
[10:31] <raylu> i don't remember having to configure ctrl+esc either, though
[10:31] <Daisuke-Ido> ah, that would explain it.
[10:31] <Daisuke-Ido> it's a behaviour thing
[10:31] <raylu> oh
[10:31] <raylu> you set it to windows?
[10:32] <ThePhantom> hi
[10:32] <Daisuke-Ido> i did, to make it easier for my girlfriend to use.
[10:32] <jrick> yeah, it's an apt-get problem.  If I remember correctly, something is locked (like in use) and anything apt-get related (adept, synaptic) won't load.
[10:32] <Daisuke-Ido> maybe it's time to switch it back
[10:33] <dragan> yes.. there can be only one apt-get process
[10:33] <raylu> jrick, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:33] <dragan> no
[10:33] <jrick> ah, that looks familiar.
[10:33] <jrick> :)
[10:33] <raylu> no?
[10:33] <dragan> just kill another adept process
[10:33] <dragan> if it is active
[10:33] <raylu> (don't kill adept_notifier)
[10:34] <dragan> ;-)
[10:34] <raylu> actually, kill it anyway
[10:34] <dragan> as I said....
[10:34] <dragan> type ps -aux | grep adept
[10:34] <jrick> hmmm, still not loading
[10:34] <jrick> I did that
[10:34] <dragan> that will help us speed up diagnostic
[10:34] <dragan> and what was reply?
[10:35] <ml> hi
[10:35] <jrick> uh, where's the pastebin?
[10:35] <dragan> it should read something lik this
[10:36] <dragan>  ps -aux | grep adept
[10:36] <dragan> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[10:36] <dragan> root      6362 32.0  4.4  80664 45808 ?        Rl   22:35   0:04 adept_manager
[10:36] <dragan> dragan    6474  0.0  0.0   2800   756 pts/3    R+   22:35   0:00 grep adept
[10:36] <jrick> ok, mine looks like this
[10:36] <jrick> joshua   25956  0.0  1.1  26436 12136 ?        S    16:26   0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager
[10:36] <jrick> joshua   26071  0.0  1.1  26436 12140 ?        S    16:30   0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager
[10:36] <jrick> joshua   26153  0.3  1.1  26432 12132 ?        S    16:34   0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager
[10:36] <jrick> joshua   26173  0.0  0.0   2884   752 pts/1    R+   16:34   0:00 grep adept
[10:36] <dragan> AHAHHAHAHAAAAAA
[10:36] <dragan> you have not 2 but 3 processes :-)
[10:36] <Daisuke-Ido> jrick: killall adept_manager
[10:36] <dragan> so..
[10:36] <dragan> with sudo first
[10:36] <dragan> sudo killall adept_manager
[10:37] <Daisuke-Ido> shouldn't even need sudo for that
[10:37] <dragan> has to...
[10:37] <Daisuke-Ido> his account launched the processes
[10:37] <dragan> nope
[10:37] <dragan> see ownership
[10:37] <dragan> root
[10:37] <Daisuke-Ido> blah
[10:37] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, sudo :D
[10:37] <ThePhantom> Excuse me, I have a problem with my bluetooth dongle in ubuntu 7.04. When I put the dongle in usb port, I read in hall terminal a flood of this error message: hci_scodata_packet: hci0 packet unknown connection handle 92.
[10:37] <ThePhantom> what can I do?
[10:37] <jrick> adept_manager: no process killed
[10:37] <dragan> buy another bt dongle :-)
[10:37] <ThePhantom> doch
[10:37] <ThePhantom> douch
[10:38] <ThePhantom> why?
[10:38] <dragan> unknown connection handle 92
[10:38] <ThePhantom> the dongle work!
[10:38] <dragan> not reckoginzed
[10:38] <ThePhantom> I can send and receive file
[10:38] <ThePhantom> !
[10:38] <Daisuke-Ido> it works in ubuntu?
[10:38] <dragan> hmm in that case ignore error messages
[10:38] <ThePhantom> yes
[10:38] <Daisuke-Ido> so...  what's the problem?
[10:38] <ThePhantom> in gnome it works
[10:38] <raylu> ThePhantom, dont run it in a terminal?
[10:39] <Daisuke-Ido> then if it doesn't work in kde, there's something not installed
[10:39] <Daisuke-Ido> search in adept for something related to bluetooth
[10:39] <ThePhantom> The problem is when i connect the dongle
[10:39] <raylu> no, the issue isn't that it doesn't work
[10:39] <mat1980> what about kdar? I can't find it in the repository of feisty. There is a package that provide it?
[10:39] <raylu> mat1980, what's kdar?
[10:39] <raylu> !find kdar
[10:39] <dragan> sudo kill -9 25956 26071 26153 jrick
[10:39] <ubotu> Package/file kdar does not exist in feisty
[10:39] <ThePhantom> in terminal i read a flood of message
[10:40] <raylu> ThePhantom, what happens if you close the terminal?
[10:40] <mat1980> kdar is a frontend for dar, a program for advanced backup
[10:40] <ThePhantom> when I press CTRL+ALT+F1
[10:40] <Daisuke-Ido> ThePhantom: if it works, ignore the messages.
[10:40] <dragan> ThePhantom: just ignore them.. if it works..
[10:40] <dragan> ehehee
[10:40] <ThePhantom> no, I can't use any terminal
[10:40] <ThePhantom> !
[10:40] <LjL> mat1980: kdar is not available in the repositories anymore due to being kind of unmaintained, and incompatible with the current version of dar
[10:40] <raylu> there is tty2...
[10:40] <ThePhantom> because i see this message
[10:40] <raylu> and 3, 4, 5, 6
[10:40] <Daisuke-Ido> uBUH...  you could have mentioned this *first*
[10:40] <ThePhantom> yes!
[10:41] <mat1980> LjL: oh... ok... thanks... do you know some alternative?
[10:41] <jrick> dragan: ERROR: garbage process ID "jrick".
[10:41] <ThePhantom> tty1,2,3,4,5,6 is not accessible for this message
[10:41] <ThePhantom> tty1,2,3,4,5,6 is not accessible cause this message
[10:41] <dragan> then kill them one by one
[10:41] <raylu> jrick, sudo killall kdesu
[10:41] <Daisuke-Ido> ThePhantom: so get a new dongle
[10:41] <dragan> list them all first
[10:41] <jrick> oh, i should use jrick at the end.
[10:42] <dragan> and sudo kill -9 procUID
[10:42] <raylu> lol, Daisuke-Ido, that's not helpful
[10:42] <ThePhantom> mmmm
[10:42] <ThePhantom> I can't do anythings?
[10:42] <Daisuke-Ido> raylu: i'm still trying to figure out what the problem is
[10:42] <jrick> no, adept still doesn't work.
[10:42] <raylu> all his ttys are being flooded with msgs and he can't use them
[10:42] <LjL> mat1980: not really... but "apt-cache rdepends dar" shows a couple of (non-kde) programs
[10:43] <raylu> jrick, did you try my command?
[10:43] <ThePhantom> raylu: yes! this is the problem
[10:43] <Daisuke-Ido> either it works or it doesn't, and if it works, he has multiple ttys he can use, just by unplugging the usb dongle, which does not need to be plugged in all the time.
[10:43] <jrick> just did
[10:43] <raylu> ThePhantom, have you tried google?
[10:43] <raylu> jrick, did it kill anything? have you tried adept since then?
[10:43] <jrick> no, adept still stalls
[10:44] <ThePhantom> Yes I tried on google, onubuntu forum but, i can't find the solution
[10:44] <raylu> and ksysguard/ps now shows no adepts?
[10:44] <raylu> ThePhantom, brand of dongle?
[10:44] <dragan> jrick: you MUST kill them alll BEFORE starting NEW adept process
[10:44] <raylu> (i assume he knows that)
[10:44] <dragan> hmmmm
[10:44] <ThePhantom> ES-388
[10:45] <ThePhantom> no brand...
[10:45] <raylu> oh. i meant model anyway :p
[10:45] <ThePhantom> on windows I use widcomm driver
[10:45] <jrick> ok, now I have this:
[10:45] <jrick> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[10:45] <jrick> joshua   26420  0.1  1.1  26432 12128 ?        S    16:43   0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager
[10:45] <jrick> joshua   26456  0.0  0.0   1676   196 pts/1    R+   16:44   0:00 grep adept
[10:45] <dragan> ok... sudo kill -9 26420
[10:45] <raylu> and why is a grep still running?
[10:45] <raylu> wait. nevermind.
[10:46] <dragan> it is ok
[10:46] <mat1980> LjL: thanks a lot! it doesn't matter if they are non-kde.
[10:46] <jrick> ok, only grep is running now
[10:46] <dragan> great
[10:46] <jrick> should I open adept?
[10:46] <ThePhantom> ...
[10:46] <dragan> now start adept from konsole
[10:46] <dragan> sudo adept
[10:46] <michi> is this also a help channel??
[10:46] <raylu> um...adept_manager is gui
[10:46] <dragan> no official michi
[10:46] <raylu> and adept isn't a command :P
[10:47] <Daisuke-Ido> and start gui apps with kdesu rather than sudo
[10:47] <dragan> yes.. I know... but sudo is shorter ;-)
[10:47] <raylu> Daisuke-Ido, but that won't give error output, will it?
[10:47] <jrick> yes. adept opens
[10:47] <Daisuke-Ido> raylu: it also won't bork configs in some apps
[10:47] <jrick> now back to my orriginal problem...
[10:47] <raylu> oh...so maybe he didn't know dragan :(
[10:48] <dragan> :-)
[10:48] <raylu> jrick, find the details on whatever app that was...
[10:48] <ThePhantom> is I try "hcidump" I read a flood of this message: SCO data: handle 92 dlen 48
[10:48] <jrick> um, adept won't let me make changes.
[10:48] <raylu> jrick, kdesu it
[10:48] <jrick> oh, i need to be root :)
[10:48] <dragan> o YEAH
[10:48] <dragan> :-)
[10:49] <dragan> if you really want to mess up things... you have to use THE POWER ;-)
[10:49] <ThePhantom> is impossible to solve my problem?
[10:49] <jrick> yeah, I ran it without the sudo command.
[10:49] <jrick> and now it won't open...
[10:50] <lupul> is there anyway i can edit the right click menu in feisty?
[10:50] <jrick> great.
[10:50] <lupul> right click on the desktop
[10:50] <dragan> you have anotherone running.... jrick
[10:50] <dragan> ONLY ONE can run jrick
[10:50] <jrick> yeah, i know that by now.
[10:50] <dragan> :-)
[10:50] <ThePhantom> :(
[10:50] <Ace2016> lupul: i think that might be hard coded, but ask in #kde they should know
[10:50] <lupul> ok
[10:50] <lupul> thank
[10:50] <lupul> *thanks
[10:53] <jrick> what do I need to kill now?
[10:53] <jrick> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[10:53] <jrick> joshua   26625  0.0  1.1  26436 12132 ?        S    16:50   0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager
[10:53] <jrick> joshua   26633  0.2  1.1  26436 12132 ?        S    16:52   0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager
[10:53] <jrick> joshua   26641  0.0  0.0   2884   748 pts/1    R+   16:53   0:00 grep adept
[10:54] <DraxNS> first 2
[10:54] <jrick> the command?
[10:54] <DraxNS> 26625 and 26641
[10:54] <DraxNS> oh boy
[10:54] <human> Zd@r3c all
[10:54] <DraxNS> sudo kill -9 procID
[10:55] <ThePhantom> excuse me, I can trash my dongle?
[10:55] <DraxNS> :-D
[10:55] <ThePhantom> no solution???
[10:55] <DraxNS> guess not.. as in not now
[10:55] <ThePhantom> I come back to windows... douch
[10:55] <DraxNS> right app for right hw ;-)
[10:56] <ThePhantom> :)
[10:56] <jrick> nope, still doesn't open.
[10:56] <jrick> I know restarting will solve it, though.
[10:56] <jrick> it kills everything
[10:56] <DraxNS> you have messed it up good
[10:56] <DraxNS> :_)
[10:56] <jrick> restart?
[10:56] <DraxNS> will you teach me :_)
[10:57] <DraxNS> ;-_
[10:57] <DraxNS> oh darn keyboard
[10:57] <DraxNS> :-)
[10:57] <jrick> haha I use dvorak
[10:57] <DraxNS> nock yourself out... :-)
[10:57] <jrick> much more accurate
[10:57] <jrick> ...then QWERTY
[10:58] <DraxNS> ahem.. it is easy to blame keyboard for typos ;-)
[10:58] <jrick> ok, restarting.
[11:02] <linija2> Hi... anyone know how to change permission to "READ-ONLY FILE SYSTEM"??? thanks
[11:02] <papatom> Zd@r3c all
[11:03] <raylu> linija2, there is a read-only mount flag
[11:03] <linija2> in fstab?
[11:03] <raylu> for the mount command
[11:04] <raylu> either -r or -o ro
[11:04] <linija2> sorry... nooob... what does that mean?
[11:04] <linija2> trying to install in /var dir
[11:04] <linija2> says "read-only file system
[11:05] <raylu> you said you wanted to change the permission TO read-only
[11:05] <raylu> you want to make it writable?
[11:05] <linija2> YES :)
[11:05] <raylu> oh. in that case, it's probably read-only because it's ntfs
[11:05] <raylu> is it?
[11:05] <linija2> ext2
[11:05] <raylu> o.0....
[11:05] <raylu> ok, explain what you mean: [16:04:28]  <linija2> trying to install in /var dir
[11:06] <papatom> Nevte jak se d naisntaloval firefox ? Mam teprve 1 den kubuntu a nevim jak se instaluje
[11:06] <papatom> pls help
[11:06] <linija2> partitioned /boot with 100MB then "encrypted" hda for the rest
[11:06] <linija2> boots fine
[11:06] <linija2> runs fine
[11:06] <linija2> trying to install kde-core and it won't finish
[11:07] <raylu> papatom, what language?
[11:07] <linija2> says error /var "read only file system
[11:07] <papatom> czech
[11:07] <raylu> linija2, i take /var to be the mount point...what's mounted there?
[11:07] <raylu> !cz | papatom
[11:07] <ubotu> papatom: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:08] <linija2> installed plain debian base system... now trying to install GUI and did apt-get install kde-core
[11:08] <raylu> linija2...what's mounted at /var?
[11:08] <linija2> nothing
[11:08] <raylu> ...then how can it be read-only?
[11:09] <raylu> type mount in a terminal and show me the output for /var
[11:09] <linija2> ohh.. one sec.. it's on my laptop
[11:10] <linija2> devpts
[11:10] <linija2> udev
[11:10] <linija2> tmpfs
[11:11] <tanja> hello, having some probs with playing mp3s
[11:11] <linija2> making sense ?
[11:11] <raylu> ...the output for /var
[11:11] <raylu> tanja, i think you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[11:11] <linija2> it's on my laptop and I'm typing to you from PC
[11:11] <linija2> can't copy / paste :)
[11:11] <raylu> !pastebine | linija2
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <raylu> !pastebin | linija2
[11:12] <ubotu> linija2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:13] <linija2> I'll be back.. gotta figure this out.. thnks raylu
[11:14] <tanja> amarok and other players play the song, but no sound it given to the speakers.. and they dont play track normal
[11:14] <raylu> tanja, close all your players, killlall artsd, try again
[11:15] <tanja> let me try
[11:17] <tanja> raylo: no no sound is given, and the track dont play normal, it "jumps", from 0:00 to 5:00, 10:00 ... and so on till end
[11:19] <tanja> system sounds work fine..
[11:20] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know how to get kaffeine to stop hanging? i played some movie on it, and it seemed to have some corrupted portion, and kaffeine hanged. then i had to kill kaffine and its kio page. now when i play kaffeine, i can't hear any sound on things, and when i try to skip ahead (in a movie), it hangs agan, and i have to kill it again. anyone know what to do?
[11:22] <BluesKaj> crackhead_25, sorry to say my kaffeine is broken as well, so i switched to VLC , it plays great ,highly recommended
[11:23] <dogatemycomputer> crackhead_25: i had a similar problem and switched to kplayer (not to be confused with kmplayer)
[11:24] <allergen> hi everybody
[11:24] <crackhead_25> just all of a sudden?
[11:24] <crackhead_25> i tried the others. the others have the same problem.
[11:24] <crackhead_25> i think it has to do with a driver that is still running or something.. like maybe i have to refresh/re-start a driver thread??
[11:29] <BluesKaj> dogatemycomputer, kplayer
[11:29] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:30] <raijinsetsu> Can someone give me some help with a fresh install of Kubuntu using an existing LVM?
[11:31] <linija2> raylu.. u still here
[11:32] <raijinsetsu> Can someone give me some help with a fresh install of Kubuntu using an existing LVM?
[11:32] <linija2> ummm. I screwed up FSTAB.. now can't edit...can anyone help
[11:33] <KevinAlaska> Hello Everyone! :)  Might anyone know the difference between the DVD & CD versions of Kubuntu?  From the install I can't see anything different and does not seem to install extra packages..
[11:34] <KevinAlaska> Sorry linija2... I sure can not help you. :(
[11:34] <linija2> raijinsetsu... does Kubuntu give u option to encrypt partition or just LVM?
[11:34] <SlimeyPete> KevinAlaska: the DVD has lot sof packages from the repositories on it. It's mainly useful for PCs without 'net access.
[11:34] <linija2> DVD has a whole lot of packages
[11:34] <raijinsetsu> lini: when using the alt-install CD, I can type vgscan, and that lists my VG00, but pvscan reports theres no device mapper.
[11:34] <blekos_> when i installed kubuntu i made two partition 1. /  2. /home, now under / i see a /home folder what's going on
[11:35] <KevinAlaska> oh.. How might you install them from the DVD?  Manually browse the DVD file system?
[11:35] <SlimeyPete> blekos_: under Linux, partitions are mounted into directories
[11:35] <SlimeyPete> blekos_: so your home partition has been mounted under /home
[11:35] <raijinsetsu> The problem is my usr,var,home directories are in the LVM, but the partitioner doesn't see them, and therefore won't install into them.
[11:35] <SlimeyPete> it's actually pointing to your second partition.
[11:36] <blekos_> but when i want to see the remaiming space in / partion would it calculate the /home as occupied space?
[11:36] <raijinsetsu> no
[11:36] <SlimeyPete> nope
[11:36] <Al> Hlo. How do I auto-rejoin on kick in Konversation?
[11:36] <blekos_> i c
[11:37] <raijinsetsu> blekos: type "df -h"
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> blekos_: notice that your cd/dvd drive is in a directory called "/media/", btw
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> same principle.
[11:37] <linija2> Hey..."SlimeyPete" ;) .. how do you make it so the person you are talking to name appears in < > instead of typing name out?
[11:37] <KevinAlaska> Anyone know if I can do a reinstall on this Kubuntu feisty but still keep the data directory of my porfile /home/kevinalaska (only 1 on the computer)?
[11:37] <blekos_> yes
[11:37] <LjL> Al: you can't and that's a feature :)
[11:37] <Al> It's a crap feature
[11:38] <Al> Fix it :(
[11:38] <raijinsetsu> Kevin: is /home on a different partition?
[11:38] <SlimeyPete> KevinAlaska: you can just back up what's in that directory, then copy it back over after your reinstall
[11:38] <KevinAlaska> no.. just swap and ext3
[11:38] <Al> /kick in the channels I attend is generally considered an amical greeting :x
[11:38] <Al> amicable*
[11:38] <SlimeyPete> KevinAlaska: just make sure you back up the .* directories as well as the normal ones
[11:38] <raijinsetsu> Then you have to do a backup, like Slimey says :)
[11:39] <blekos_> but wont he loose his program settings?
[11:39] <raijinsetsu> Not if you mean desktop settings
[11:39] <SlimeyPete> blekos_: they're generally stored in/home/ (usually in directories and files which are named .[something] )
[11:39] <blekos_> i mean if u have install ie gnucash
[11:39] <KevinAlaska> okay my backup is not here at the moment and I dont have much to save just wouldn't mind fixing the errors now instead of waiting.. I am bad that way. :(
[11:39] <SlimeyPete> blekos_: then your settings are in /home/you/.gnucash
[11:40] <SlimeyPete> (iirc)
[11:40] <blekos_> i c
[11:40] <KevinAlaska> test
[11:40] <raijinsetsu> Kevin... You could be dangerous and delete all directories EXCEPT home... But... That's difficult at times.
[11:40] <blekos_> hm, i've run deporphan and autoclean but my / partion has only 8,7gb of 16.5 free (i've install gnome as well)
[11:40] <KevinAlaska> at times.. heh
[11:41] <raijinsetsu> After the delete, you could re-install to that partition and choose not to format.
[11:41] <blekos_> is there a way to have more space?
[11:41] <Al> ohay does Konversation have scripting?
[11:41] <Al> Or is the omission of that a feature too?
[11:41] <raijinsetsu> blekos: only if you're using LVM or something similar
[11:41] <KevinAlaska> what about resizing the partition?
[11:41] <SlimeyPete> blekos_: delete applications. That's about your only option, really.
[11:41] <KevinAlaska> what does KDE use for this and is it "some what" friendly?
[11:42] <raijinsetsu> So... Does anyone have any clues on how to install 7.04 using an existing LVM group?
[11:42] <raijinsetsu> Kev: you'd have to use the command line
[11:43] <KevinAlaska> ahhh.. no GUI format for this.. heh.. never mind there then.  I am to newbie in linux for this.  I am still good with DOS (/shudder) just not much yet on any of the shells in Linux. =/
[11:43] <blekos_> slimeypete, i've also installed kbfx, if i had make a clean install and then restored only home directory, would it reappear? my questin basically is: aren't there any progrs that require to put components into the /?
[11:43] <jrattner1> Question: What can I do to reset the password for KDE wallet if I forgot it?
[11:43] <raijinsetsu> blekos_: if they do, they're doing it wrong. All App settings belong in your home directory. Only System Apps have config in /etc
[11:44] <raijinsetsu> Or, that's the way it's supposed to be.
[11:44] <SlimeyPete> blekos_: some system components store configuration options in /etc, but other than that programs just use your home directory. If yuo run a program, that program can only write to your home directory anyway - only programs running with root priviledges (i.e. after you have typed your password in) can write to the rest of the system
[11:45] <blekos_> hmm, but when i installed kbfx i did sudo aptitude install <package>
[11:45] <KevinAlaska> how does one send that little sound when they message you in chat?  I am using Kopete.
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> that's fine. That was just installation. When you run it, it runs as you, not root.
[11:46] <blekos_> the same applies to firestarter etc
[11:46] <blekos_> ok
[11:46] <blekos_> got the difference
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> blekos_: though... kbfx is a menu, isn't it?
[11:46] <blekos_> yes it is
[11:47] <SlimeyPete> so actually it might be one of the exceptions, I'm not sure. But 95% of progs just use your home directory.
[11:47] <SlimeyPete> stuff like your web browser, word processor, that sort of thing :)
[11:47] <blekos_> but you actually mention "all app *settings" so what about the program itself?
[11:47] <raijinsetsu> You'd have to re-install the program
[11:48] <raijinsetsu> But, it shouldn't over-write your settings
[11:48] <SlimeyPete> yeah.
[11:53] <liam> hi
[11:54] <dwidmann> hi
[11:54] <blekos_> is there a way to get rid of gnome while keeping a few programs (gnucash, firestarter)
[11:54] <liam> i have prblem with the audio on my lappy, could ayone help me?
[11:55] <crimsun> liam: can you be more specific?
[11:55] <liam> yup! Adsio was fine earlier. I unmuted the speakers about 5 mins ago to watch something on youtube and there is a constant beeping in the background
[11:56] <liam> they sound like bios beeps / pc speaker
[11:56] <liam> doesnt matter
[11:56] <liam> i am stupid and have fixed it
[11:56] <ubuntu> oi
[11:57] <ubuntu> tem alguem ae
[11:57] <ubuntu> quem pode me ajuda a liga o beryl no kubuntu?
[11:57] <ubuntu> oi
[11:57] <liam> if anyone isntalls kwifi manager and then heres beeps when you unmute your speakers
[11:58] <liam> try exiting kwifi first! then it should be grand
[11:58] <LjL> !es | ubuntu
[11:58] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:58] <LjL> !pt | ubuntu
[11:58] <ubotu> ubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[12:00] <LjL> blekos_: yes but the basic GNOME libraries that those programs need will stay there...
[12:00] <LjL> !purekde
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purekde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <LjL> where was it
[12:00] <LjL> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[12:01] <sl00> Hi. I just installed apache2 using Kubuntu's Adept Manager. I copied the sites-available/default to have a site at a different location than /var/www (I want the default aswell) but how do I access the other site. I changed NameVirtualHost from * to 'devsite' and same with the <VirtualHost *> tag. I added a symlink in 'sites-enabled' and named it 001-devsite aswell.
[12:01] <blekos_> ok thnx
[12:07] <dominik_> moin
[12:08] <dominik_> anyone already tried the new linuxmce 1.1?
[12:10] <dogatemycomputer> dominik_: I have never tried it but it looks cool.  Thanks!
[12:10] <kgx> can anyone explain to me why the script is called twice in this cron script: 00 05 * * * root [ -f /mnt/clusternfs2/extranet/cron.php ]  && cd /mnt/clusternfs2/extranet/ && php4 -f cron.php > /mnt/clusternfs2/extranet/cron_output.txt
[12:14] <BWolf85> hol