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bhagman88hello01:37
LaserJockhi01:37
bhagman88I'm having an installation issue01:37
bhagman88could you help me?01:37
LaserJockI might01:38
bhagman88ok01:38
LaserJockbut I'd need to know you're problem first ;-)01:38
bhagman88so when i try to partition01:38
bhagman88i'm not ble to01:38
bhagman88i actusally try to just partition the entire thing01:39
bhagman88and it doesnt allow me to01:39
LaserJockhmm01:39
LaserJockyou want to wipe the whole drive?01:40
willvdldoes it give an error? or just nothing happens?01:40
bhagman88error01:40
bhagman88and I would indeed like to wipe the entire driv :-)01:40
bhagman88i want to make a dedicated linux laptop01:41
willvdlwhat error does it give?01:41
bhagman88awe man now I feel like an idiot01:41
bhagman88I wrote it down but can't find it01:41
bhagman88i guess that this will be unanswered till i find the error again :-)01:42
willvdlthe error could be the key :)01:43
bhagman88indeed it could :-P01:43
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yuriyhey LaserJock, any idea when i can expect silentk to be around?01:53
willvdlLaserJock, rewrote. hopefully more generic like original.02:01
willvdlWill work on design again tomorrow02:01
LaserJockk02:02
willvdlthanks again for the help. will (must) have it done by spec review cut-off (end of month)02:07
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moquistwhat's the "good" GUI for managing network connections these days? I almost never use GUIs, but I'm prepping a laptop for a GUI-ish person, and I want to give him whatever the recommended thing is. Is the default thing the right one in feisty?02:18
bimberimoquist: Yes, Network Manager is installed by default and is excellent02:20
moquistbimberi: Great! I'd heard of "Network Manager", but I wouldn't know it if it hit me in the face.02:21
moquistAh! I guess selecting "About" after right-clicking on the applet tells me what it is. Cool.02:21
moquistbimberi: thx02:21
bimberimoquist: np02:21
moquistTotem is really doing well. I'm very pleased with its DVD playing.02:23
moquistI'm actually excited to hand this to the user, and I have high hopes that he won't want the Windows XP dual-boot anymore.02:23
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willvdlwindows cannot handle my 3G connection anymore. it is dead to me :)02:29
LaserJockheh02:29
willvdlseriously, it gives 633 errors repeatedly02:34
willvdlchanges my desktop theme by itself02:34
willvdland eventually locks my cardbus02:35
willvdlok. late. bed02:35
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HellTradeCould here someone help me please?04:58
LaserJockyou'll need to state the problem in order for people to know04:58
HellTradesure04:59
HellTradebut it is polite to ask no?04:59
HellTrade1. How do I make the graphics card driver for an NvidiaG4 work04:59
HellTradeI found the right driver - the older one - they have too04:59
HellTradeand found five different manuals04:59
HellTradeon the net04:59
HellTradenone workd04:59
HellTradeI even read in a forum a guy complaining05:00
LaserJockusually we'd prefer it if you simply ask the question, when it comes to IRC05:00
HellTradenow you have it05:00
LaserJockwell, if you don't need 3d acceleration I belive you can install nvidia-legacy drivers05:01
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HellTradeit is an old card05:02
HellTradebut it is ugly to have an 21 inch screen and not be able to have 80 hz or good resulution05:02
HellTradeI show you the driver05:03
LaserJockHellTrade: you might want to look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper05:03
HellTradeso it is an NVIDIA Gforce4 MX05:03
HellTradeI looked there for sure05:03
HellTradewas the first place that pagte05:03
LaserJockor perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:04
yuriyis it dapper? or what version?05:04
HellTradewhat is a dapper?05:05
HellTradeI find it05:05
yuriydapper = ubuntu 6.0605:05
HellTradethe newest05:06
HellTradesorry i am new05:07
HellTradefeisty05:07
HellTradehttp://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_1.0-2802.html05:08
HellTradethat I found now - but not debian/ubuntu05:08
HellTradebut i was last time on another site and found what was recommended05:08
HellTradeso this should owrk?05:09
HellTradeThe easiset method by far is to use System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager. If that fails, see below.05:09
HellTradeok i take a look05:11
HellTradecan i encrypt the partition?05:12
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bimberi:-O05:20
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cliebow_using wireshark what should the print command be besides lpr?03:18
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sbalneavMorning all04:01
jsgotangcohi04:04
juliuxhi sbalneav04:05
sbalneavHello juliux04:05
willvdlsbalneav, woohoo04:06
sbalneavHello willvdl04:06
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RichEdhi willvdl sbalneav juliux ogra-classmate04:46
willvdlhey04:46
sbalneavhiya04:46
RichEdogra-classmate: how's the classmate ?04:46
highvoltagehey RichEd willvdl and juliux04:46
ogra-classmatehey04:46
RichEdhi highvoltage04:46
ogra-classmateRichEd: fast04:46
ogra-classmatethe image i got now is perfect for usage, i dont think i can get it any faster04:47
RichEdogra-classmate: good :) mine is quite slow when you load more than one application04:48
RichEdogra-classmate:  I sent a mail a few minutes ago that I'd like some input on from you ... please see the attached doc and questions I have left for you.04:48
ogra-classmatewell, thats a general thing on mine you can run two or three without probs but then it runs out of ram at some pooint04:48
ogra-classmatecurrenly my system thinks it has 3Gig btw ;)04:49
RichEdhow did you manage to do that ?04:50
ogra-classmateusing a squashfs for the main system .... a readonly sys04:50
RichEdokay ...04:50
ogra-classmatethen i mount a second (300mb) partition to that04:50
ogra-classmateand use unionfs to merge these two04:51
ogra-classmatethe system now sees only /04:51
ogra-classmatewhike / is in fact a merge of /readolny-squashfs and /readwrite_partition04:51
ogra-classmateeverything thats unmodified just comes from teh squashed fs04:52
ogra-classmateeverything i9 modify moves automatically to the rw partition04:52
ogra-classmatethis makes it possible to install upodates, codecs etc with no problems04:53
sbalneavogra-classmate: Hey, just checking, ldm itself is staying in Python, right? It's just the GREETERS that are c-ified04:53
sbalneavSlick work on the classmate, btw04:53
ogra-classmateadd/remove works at a reasonabkle spped here btw04:53
ogra-classmatei installed flash and the mp3 codecs with it yesterday04:53
RichEdogra-classmate: sounds like some creative genius is at work there :)04:53
ogra-classmatewell i'm nearly done ... just some settings and a new usplash04:54
ogra-classmatethe other artwork is fixed as well already04:54
RichEdogra-classmate: then the test to see if I can update mine across the wire ...04:55
ogra-classmateall i'm missing is an install script or something04:55
ogra-classmatethat wont work this easily yet#04:55
ogra-classmateyou need a certsain partition layout04:56
ogra-classmatesbalneav: i'd love to switch to something lihter, but form a security pov its way easier to contribiute to the python script04:57
ogra-classmatei'm fearing we land in security hell if we switch to something else04:57
sbalneavI agree.  Change the greeters, but lets keep the core ldm in python.04:57
ogra-classmatewell04:58
RichEdogra-classmate: that's why I'm here to test and follow instructions from you, if I can't do it with your assistance, we'll need to make another plan04:58
ogra-classmatepython puts some speed issues up04:58
sbalneavI've done some hacking on the weekend.  Did gadi actually send you a patch?04:58
sbalneavOr did he just make a suggestion?04:58
juliuxhi RichEd highvoltage04:59
sbalneavI'm working on adding python.pexpect support into the pipeline to handles errors/password expiry.04:59
ogra-classmateRichEd: let me finish the image first ... we'll test during the week, i need to test myself first, currently i'm running everything fromn an external 2g usbstick04:59
RichEdogra-classmate: no rush ... when you feel you are at a good baseline, we'll give the "upgrade" a go05:00
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ogra-classmateyep05:00
ogra-classmatewell, i felt a bit under pressure from maria ... i was wondering if i should just send her one usbstick with the image to boot from05:01
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RichEdogra-classmate: is there a specific mail where she is asking for quick results ?05:02
ogra-classmateintel also sent me a new driver from ralink i'll have to test that as well and i'm still missing an idea why the resuming doesnt work05:02
ogra-classmatethere was one about he wanting to demo it if we have anything already05:03
ogra-classmates/he/her05:03
RichEdogra-classmate: please /join #CmPc @canonical05:12
juliuxare there only classmate pc user allowed;)05:15
RichEdping ogra05:15
ogra-classmatei'm there :)05:15
RichEdthanks05:17
highvoltagehey juliux05:40
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lifehi05:51
lifeanyone in?05:51
lifei have some questions about edubuntu05:51
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lifehello?05:51
sbalneavHello05:59
sbalneavWhat can I help you with?05:59
sbalneavlife: ping06:00
highvoltagesometimes you give life a ping, and get nothing back. that's just how life is.06:01
RichEdlife has quit ? quit living or quite smoking life or quit asking questions ?06:03
RichEd*quit smoking life06:04
willvdlquit quitting06:05
LaserJockmorning Edubuntu people!06:09
willvdlevening LaserJock06:11
RichEdhello LaserJock06:11
RichEdbye all ... dinner with the father in law06:12
highvoltageit's tough when life quits on you.06:12
highvoltagebye RichEd!06:12
highvoltagemorning LaserPerson!06:12
LaserJockheh06:12
LaserJockogra-classmate: yeah, I'm a member again ;-)06:16
LaserJockhmm06:17
LaserJockwe should probably talk about EC at the meeting today06:18
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highvoltageLaserJock: the TB meeting?06:24
LaserJockoh wait, Edubuntu meeting is tomorrow06:25
LaserJockmy bad06:25
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bddebianHeya06:27
highvoltagehey bddbbdebian06:27
bddebianHi highvoltage06:27
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LaserJockogra-classmate: when you've got a chance please sponsor my debdiff on bug #3225206:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 32252 in tuxpaint "Installs two desktop launchers in different sections" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3225206:40
ogra-classmateindeed06:43
LaserJockI didn't realize that bug was affecting gnome-app-install06:51
LaserJockI'm not sure if we have any other "offenders" installing .desktop to non-/usr/share/applications/ directories but we need to fix any that we might have06:51
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GNu_Joeis there a live-CD version of the Edubuntu server? need something to demo to a grade school08:26
highvoltagenixternal: not yet08:26
highvoltagenixternal: oops, not you :)08:26
highvoltageGNu_Joe: no, not yet. it is planned for a future release though08:26
GNu_Joeany ideas on how to demo Edubuntu to show how it will allow the old equiptment to be used again?08:27
cbx33hey highvoltage08:28
highvoltagehey see bee ex 3308:28
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cbx33hey HedgeMage08:31
LaserJockGNu_Joe: there is a LiveCD08:43
LaserJockthat would show off the apps and what it'd look like08:43
GNu_JoeLaserJock, yes?08:43
LaserJockbut it won't demo the LTSP setup08:43
GNu_JoeLaserJock, need to demo the LTSP stuff08:44
LaserJockthen I'd take a laptop with Edubuntu on it08:44
LaserJockand do a direct connection to one of their machines08:44
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HedgeMagecrimsun: hi09:12
HedgeMageoops09:12
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HedgeMagehi cbx3309:20
cbx33hey HedgeMage09:22
nixternaloi!09:22
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GNu_JoeCan the LiveCD be used to doa LTSP boot?09:25
cbx33did anyone get an email about ubuntu live?09:25
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LaserJockGNu_Joe: you mean as the client?09:43
sbalneavGNu_Joe: Best way would be to set up Edubuntu server on a laptop or something like that, then come in, and boot the lab off of that.09:44
yuriyhoping of course that the lab computers can boot off the network09:47
LaserJockyou check that first of course ;-)09:48
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willvdlalright. back online.12:18
willvdlhaving pcmcia issues. the pccardctl util tends to hang uninteruptably12:19

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