=== sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-6-59.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === bhagman88 [n=shaanbha@pool-71-178-247-151.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:37] hello [01:37] hi [01:37] I'm having an installation issue [01:37] could you help me? [01:38] I might [01:38] ok [01:38] but I'd need to know you're problem first ;-) [01:38] so when i try to partition [01:38] i'm not ble to [01:39] i actusally try to just partition the entire thing [01:39] and it doesnt allow me to [01:39] hmm [01:40] you want to wipe the whole drive? [01:40] does it give an error? or just nothing happens? [01:40] error [01:40] and I would indeed like to wipe the entire driv :-) [01:41] i want to make a dedicated linux laptop [01:41] what error does it give? [01:41] awe man now I feel like an idiot [01:41] I wrote it down but can't find it [01:42] i guess that this will be unanswered till i find the error again :-) [01:43] the error could be the key :) [01:43] indeed it could :-P === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu [01:53] hey LaserJock, any idea when i can expect silentk to be around? [02:01] LaserJock, rewrote. hopefully more generic like original. [02:01] Will work on design again tomorrow [02:02] k [02:07] thanks again for the help. will (must) have it done by spec review cut-off (end of month) === kleinmat|lernen [i=KhnkZrw0@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has left #edubuntu [] === caravena [n=caravena@228-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@228-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has left #edubuntu [] === merriam_ [n=merriam@85-211-245-180.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [02:18] what's the "good" GUI for managing network connections these days? I almost never use GUIs, but I'm prepping a laptop for a GUI-ish person, and I want to give him whatever the recommended thing is. Is the default thing the right one in feisty? [02:20] moquist: Yes, Network Manager is installed by default and is excellent [02:21] bimberi: Great! I'd heard of "Network Manager", but I wouldn't know it if it hit me in the face. [02:21] Ah! I guess selecting "About" after right-clicking on the applet tells me what it is. Cool. [02:21] bimberi: thx [02:21] moquist: np [02:23] Totem is really doing well. I'm very pleased with its DVD playing. [02:23] I'm actually excited to hand this to the user, and I have high hopes that he won't want the Windows XP dual-boot anymore. === pitux [n=pitux@105-93-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.32] has joined #edubuntu [02:29] windows cannot handle my 3G connection anymore. it is dead to me :) [02:29] heh [02:34] seriously, it gives 633 errors repeatedly [02:34] changes my desktop theme by itself [02:35] and eventually locks my cardbus [02:35] ok. late. bed === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja_ [n=andy@host176-168-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #edubuntu === bonbonthejon [n=jon@cpe-69-133-37-32.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === pitux_ [n=pitux@130-92-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === mtoroyarzo [n=insane@200.72.195.157] has joined #edubuntu === HellTrade [n=x@p57BB0E26.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [04:58] Could here someone help me please? [04:58] you'll need to state the problem in order for people to know [04:59] sure [04:59] but it is polite to ask no? [04:59] 1. How do I make the graphics card driver for an NvidiaG4 work [04:59] I found the right driver - the older one - they have too [04:59] and found five different manuals [04:59] on the net [04:59] none workd [05:00] I even read in a forum a guy complaining [05:00] usually we'd prefer it if you simply ask the question, when it comes to IRC [05:00] now you have it [05:01] well, if you don't need 3d acceleration I belive you can install nvidia-legacy drivers === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu [05:02] it is an old card [05:02] but it is ugly to have an 21 inch screen and not be able to have 80 hz or good resulution [05:03] I show you the driver [05:03] HellTrade: you might want to look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper [05:03] so it is an NVIDIA Gforce4 MX [05:03] I looked there for sure [05:03] was the first place that pagte [05:04] or perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [05:04] is it dapper? or what version? [05:05] what is a dapper? [05:05] I find it [05:05] dapper = ubuntu 6.06 [05:06] the newest [05:07] sorry i am new [05:07] feisty [05:08] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_1.0-2802.html [05:08] that I found now - but not debian/ubuntu [05:08] but i was last time on another site and found what was recommended [05:09] so this should owrk? [05:09] The easiset method by far is to use System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager. If that fails, see below. [05:11] ok i take a look [05:12] can i encrypt the partition? === nixternal is now known as I_LUV_VISTA === I_LUV_VISTA is now known as nixternal [05:20] :-O === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42804.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-159-185.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-159-185.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-27c5c64f319b1859] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-159-185.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja_ is now known as bluekuja === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === mtoroyarzo [n=insane@201-221-204-14.bk11-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@121.97.244.247] has joined #edubuntu === ogra-classmate [n=teacher@p548AE18C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:18] using wireshark what should the print command be besides lpr? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] Morning all [04:04] hi [04:05] hi sbalneav [04:05] Hello juliux [04:06] sbalneav, woohoo [04:06] Hello willvdl === ogra-classmate [n=teacher@p548AE18C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:46] hi willvdl sbalneav juliux ogra-classmate [04:46] hey [04:46] hiya [04:46] ogra-classmate: how's the classmate ? [04:46] hey RichEd willvdl and juliux [04:46] hey [04:46] hi highvoltage [04:46] RichEd: fast [04:47] the image i got now is perfect for usage, i dont think i can get it any faster [04:48] ogra-classmate: good :) mine is quite slow when you load more than one application [04:48] ogra-classmate: I sent a mail a few minutes ago that I'd like some input on from you ... please see the attached doc and questions I have left for you. [04:48] well, thats a general thing on mine you can run two or three without probs but then it runs out of ram at some pooint [04:49] currenly my system thinks it has 3Gig btw ;) [04:50] how did you manage to do that ? [04:50] using a squashfs for the main system .... a readonly sys [04:50] okay ... [04:50] then i mount a second (300mb) partition to that [04:51] and use unionfs to merge these two [04:51] the system now sees only / [04:51] whike / is in fact a merge of /readolny-squashfs and /readwrite_partition [04:52] everything thats unmodified just comes from teh squashed fs [04:52] everything i9 modify moves automatically to the rw partition [04:53] this makes it possible to install upodates, codecs etc with no problems [04:53] ogra-classmate: Hey, just checking, ldm itself is staying in Python, right? It's just the GREETERS that are c-ified [04:53] Slick work on the classmate, btw [04:53] add/remove works at a reasonabkle spped here btw [04:53] i installed flash and the mp3 codecs with it yesterday [04:53] ogra-classmate: sounds like some creative genius is at work there :) [04:54] well i'm nearly done ... just some settings and a new usplash [04:54] the other artwork is fixed as well already [04:55] ogra-classmate: then the test to see if I can update mine across the wire ... [04:55] all i'm missing is an install script or something [04:55] that wont work this easily yet# [04:56] you need a certsain partition layout [04:57] sbalneav: i'd love to switch to something lihter, but form a security pov its way easier to contribiute to the python script [04:57] i'm fearing we land in security hell if we switch to something else [04:57] I agree. Change the greeters, but lets keep the core ldm in python. [04:58] well [04:58] ogra-classmate: that's why I'm here to test and follow instructions from you, if I can't do it with your assistance, we'll need to make another plan [04:58] python puts some speed issues up [04:58] I've done some hacking on the weekend. Did gadi actually send you a patch? [04:58] Or did he just make a suggestion? [04:59] hi RichEd highvoltage [04:59] I'm working on adding python.pexpect support into the pipeline to handles errors/password expiry. [04:59] RichEd: let me finish the image first ... we'll test during the week, i need to test myself first, currently i'm running everything fromn an external 2g usbstick [05:00] ogra-classmate: no rush ... when you feel you are at a good baseline, we'll give the "upgrade" a go === superseth [n=smarinel@adsl-75-15-120-201.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:00] yep [05:01] well, i felt a bit under pressure from maria ... i was wondering if i should just send her one usbstick with the image to boot from === ogra-classmate bought a collection of these things :) [05:02] ogra-classmate: is there a specific mail where she is asking for quick results ? [05:02] intel also sent me a new driver from ralink i'll have to test that as well and i'm still missing an idea why the resuming doesnt work [05:03] there was one about he wanting to demo it if we have anything already [05:03] s/he/her [05:12] ogra-classmate: please /join #CmPc @canonical [05:15] are there only classmate pc user allowed;) [05:15] ping ogra [05:15] i'm there :) [05:17] thanks [05:40] hey juliux === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === ogra-classmate [n=teacher@p548AE18C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has left #edubuntu ["Moodle..."] === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === life [n=newbie_e@ip72-192-121-1.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] hi [05:51] anyone in? [05:51] i have some questions about edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] hello? [05:59] Hello [05:59] What can I help you with? [06:00] life: ping [06:01] sometimes you give life a ping, and get nothing back. that's just how life is. [06:03] life has quit ? quit living or quite smoking life or quit asking questions ? [06:04] *quit smoking life [06:05] quit quitting [06:09] morning Edubuntu people! [06:11] evening LaserJock [06:11] hello LaserJock [06:12] bye all ... dinner with the father in law [06:12] it's tough when life quits on you. [06:12] bye RichEd! [06:12] morning LaserPerson! [06:12] heh [06:16] ogra-classmate: yeah, I'm a member again ;-) [06:17] hmm [06:18] we should probably talk about EC at the meeting today === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu [06:24] LaserJock: the TB meeting? [06:25] oh wait, Edubuntu meeting is tomorrow [06:25] my bad === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [06:27] Heya [06:27] hey bddbbdebian [06:27] Hi highvoltage === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [06:40] ogra-classmate: when you've got a chance please sponsor my debdiff on bug #32252 [06:40] Launchpad bug 32252 in tuxpaint "Installs two desktop launchers in different sections" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32252 [06:43] indeed [06:51] I didn't realize that bug was affecting gnome-app-install [06:51] I'm not sure if we have any other "offenders" installing .desktop to non-/usr/share/applications/ directories but we need to fix any that we might have === pauljw [n=paul@pool245.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A9544E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === goxenul_ [n=goxenul@chello084010161240.chello.pl] has joined #edubuntu === goxenul_ [n=goxenul@chello084010161240.chello.pl] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === GNu_Joe [n=joe@ool-44c7dc56.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:26] is there a live-CD version of the Edubuntu server? need something to demo to a grade school [08:26] nixternal: not yet [08:26] nixternal: oops, not you :) [08:26] GNu_Joe: no, not yet. it is planned for a future release though [08:27] any ideas on how to demo Edubuntu to show how it will allow the old equiptment to be used again? [08:28] hey highvoltage [08:28] hey see bee ex 33 === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu [08:31] hey HedgeMage [08:43] GNu_Joe: there is a LiveCD [08:43] that would show off the apps and what it'd look like [08:43] LaserJock, yes? [08:43] but it won't demo the LTSP setup [08:44] LaserJock, need to demo the LTSP stuff [08:44] then I'd take a laptop with Edubuntu on it [08:44] and do a direct connection to one of their machines === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === mtoroyarzo [n=insane@201-221-204-14.bk11-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #edubuntu [09:12] crimsun: hi [09:12] oops === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [09:20] hi cbx33 [09:22] hey HedgeMage [09:22] oi! === creadorcreativo [n=insane@201-221-204-14.bk11-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #edubuntu [09:25] Can the LiveCD be used to doa LTSP boot? [09:25] did anyone get an email about ubuntu live? === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.129] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [09:43] GNu_Joe: you mean as the client? [09:44] GNu_Joe: Best way would be to set up Edubuntu server on a laptop or something like that, then come in, and boot the lab off of that. [09:47] hoping of course that the lab computers can boot off the network [09:48] you check that first of course ;-) === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-162-81.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Youmer [n=ken@user-5442f67a.lns3-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@adsl-75-15-120-201.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@196.1.61.32] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [12:18] alright. back online. [12:19] having pcmcia issues. the pccardctl util tends to hang uninteruptably