[01:37] <bhagman88> hello
[01:37] <LaserJock> hi
[01:37] <bhagman88> I'm having an installation issue
[01:37] <bhagman88> could you help me?
[01:38] <LaserJock> I might
[01:38] <bhagman88> ok
[01:38] <LaserJock> but I'd need to know you're problem first ;-)
[01:38] <bhagman88> so when i try to partition
[01:38] <bhagman88> i'm not ble to
[01:39] <bhagman88> i actusally try to just partition the entire thing
[01:39] <bhagman88> and it doesnt allow me to
[01:39] <LaserJock> hmm
[01:40] <LaserJock> you want to wipe the whole drive?
[01:40] <willvdl> does it give an error? or just nothing happens?
[01:40] <bhagman88> error
[01:40] <bhagman88> and I would indeed like to wipe the entire driv :-)
[01:41] <bhagman88> i want to make a dedicated linux laptop
[01:41] <willvdl> what error does it give?
[01:41] <bhagman88> awe man now I feel like an idiot
[01:41] <bhagman88> I wrote it down but can't find it
[01:42] <bhagman88> i guess that this will be unanswered till i find the error again :-)
[01:43] <willvdl> the error could be the key :)
[01:43] <bhagman88> indeed it could :-P
[01:53] <yuriy> hey LaserJock, any idea when i can expect silentk to be around?
[02:01] <willvdl> LaserJock, rewrote. hopefully more generic like original.
[02:01] <willvdl> Will work on design again tomorrow
[02:02] <LaserJock> k
[02:07] <willvdl> thanks again for the help. will (must) have it done by spec review cut-off (end of month)
[02:18] <moquist> what's the "good" GUI for managing network connections these days? I almost never use GUIs, but I'm prepping a laptop for a GUI-ish person, and I want to give him whatever the recommended thing is. Is the default thing the right one in feisty?
[02:20] <bimberi> moquist: Yes, Network Manager is installed by default and is excellent
[02:21] <moquist> bimberi: Great! I'd heard of "Network Manager", but I wouldn't know it if it hit me in the face.
[02:21] <moquist> Ah! I guess selecting "About" after right-clicking on the applet tells me what it is. Cool.
[02:21] <moquist> bimberi: thx
[02:21] <bimberi> moquist: np
[02:23] <moquist> Totem is really doing well. I'm very pleased with its DVD playing.
[02:23] <moquist> I'm actually excited to hand this to the user, and I have high hopes that he won't want the Windows XP dual-boot anymore.
[02:29] <willvdl> windows cannot handle my 3G connection anymore. it is dead to me :)
[02:29] <LaserJock> heh
[02:34] <willvdl> seriously, it gives 633 errors repeatedly
[02:34] <willvdl> changes my desktop theme by itself
[02:35] <willvdl> and eventually locks my cardbus
[02:35] <willvdl> ok. late. bed
[04:58] <HellTrade> Could here someone help me please?
[04:58] <LaserJock> you'll need to state the problem in order for people to know
[04:59] <HellTrade> sure
[04:59] <HellTrade> but it is polite to ask no?
[04:59] <HellTrade> 1. How do I make the graphics card driver for an NvidiaG4 work
[04:59] <HellTrade> I found the right driver - the older one - they have too
[04:59] <HellTrade> and found five different manuals
[04:59] <HellTrade> on the net
[04:59] <HellTrade> none workd
[05:00] <HellTrade> I even read in a forum a guy complaining
[05:00] <LaserJock> usually we'd prefer it if you simply ask the question, when it comes to IRC
[05:00] <HellTrade> now you have it
[05:01] <LaserJock> well, if you don't need 3d acceleration I belive you can install nvidia-legacy drivers
[05:02] <HellTrade> it is an old card
[05:02] <HellTrade> but it is ugly to have an 21 inch screen and not be able to have 80 hz or good resulution
[05:03] <HellTrade> I show you the driver
[05:03] <LaserJock> HellTrade: you might want to look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[05:03] <HellTrade> so it is an NVIDIA Gforce4 MX
[05:03] <HellTrade> I looked there for sure
[05:03] <HellTrade> was the first place that pagte
[05:04] <LaserJock> or perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:04] <yuriy> is it dapper? or what version?
[05:05] <HellTrade> what is a dapper?
[05:05] <HellTrade> I find it
[05:05] <yuriy> dapper = ubuntu 6.06
[05:06] <HellTrade> the newest
[05:07] <HellTrade> sorry i am new
[05:07] <HellTrade> feisty
[05:08] <HellTrade> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_1.0-2802.html
[05:08] <HellTrade> that I found now - but not debian/ubuntu
[05:08] <HellTrade> but i was last time on another site and found what was recommended
[05:09] <HellTrade> so this should owrk?
[05:09] <HellTrade> The easiset method by far is to use System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager. If that fails, see below.
[05:11] <HellTrade> ok i take a look
[05:12] <HellTrade> can i encrypt the partition?
[05:20] <bimberi> :-O
[03:18] <cliebow_> using wireshark what should the print command be besides lpr?
[04:01] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:04] <jsgotangco> hi
[04:05] <juliux> hi sbalneav
[04:05] <sbalneav> Hello juliux
[04:06] <willvdl> sbalneav, woohoo
[04:06] <sbalneav> Hello willvdl
[04:46] <RichEd> hi willvdl sbalneav juliux ogra-classmate
[04:46] <willvdl> hey
[04:46] <sbalneav> hiya
[04:46] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: how's the classmate ?
[04:46] <highvoltage> hey RichEd willvdl and juliux
[04:46] <ogra-classmate> hey
[04:46] <RichEd> hi highvoltage
[04:46] <ogra-classmate> RichEd: fast
[04:47] <ogra-classmate> the image i got now is perfect for usage, i dont think i can get it any faster
[04:48] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: good :) mine is quite slow when you load more than one application
[04:48] <RichEd> ogra-classmate:  I sent a mail a few minutes ago that I'd like some input on from you ... please see the attached doc and questions I have left for you.
[04:48] <ogra-classmate> well, thats a general thing on mine you can run two or three without probs but then it runs out of ram at some pooint
[04:49] <ogra-classmate> currenly my system thinks it has 3Gig btw ;)
[04:50] <RichEd> how did you manage to do that ?
[04:50] <ogra-classmate> using a squashfs for the main system .... a readonly sys
[04:50] <RichEd> okay ...
[04:50] <ogra-classmate> then i mount a second (300mb) partition to that
[04:51] <ogra-classmate> and use unionfs to merge these two
[04:51] <ogra-classmate> the system now sees only /
[04:51] <ogra-classmate> whike / is in fact a merge of /readolny-squashfs and /readwrite_partition
[04:52] <ogra-classmate> everything thats unmodified just comes from teh squashed fs
[04:52] <ogra-classmate> everything i9 modify moves automatically to the rw partition
[04:53] <ogra-classmate> this makes it possible to install upodates, codecs etc with no problems
[04:53] <sbalneav> ogra-classmate: Hey, just checking, ldm itself is staying in Python, right? It's just the GREETERS that are c-ified
[04:53] <sbalneav> Slick work on the classmate, btw
[04:53] <ogra-classmate> add/remove works at a reasonabkle spped here btw
[04:53] <ogra-classmate> i installed flash and the mp3 codecs with it yesterday
[04:53] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: sounds like some creative genius is at work there :)
[04:54] <ogra-classmate> well i'm nearly done ... just some settings and a new usplash
[04:54] <ogra-classmate> the other artwork is fixed as well already
[04:55] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: then the test to see if I can update mine across the wire ...
[04:55] <ogra-classmate> all i'm missing is an install script or something
[04:55] <ogra-classmate> that wont work this easily yet#
[04:56] <ogra-classmate> you need a certsain partition layout
[04:57] <ogra-classmate> sbalneav: i'd love to switch to something lihter, but form a security pov its way easier to contribiute to the python script
[04:57] <ogra-classmate> i'm fearing we land in security hell if we switch to something else
[04:57] <sbalneav> I agree.  Change the greeters, but lets keep the core ldm in python.
[04:58] <ogra-classmate> well
[04:58] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: that's why I'm here to test and follow instructions from you, if I can't do it with your assistance, we'll need to make another plan
[04:58] <ogra-classmate> python puts some speed issues up
[04:58] <sbalneav> I've done some hacking on the weekend.  Did gadi actually send you a patch?
[04:58] <sbalneav> Or did he just make a suggestion?
[04:59] <juliux> hi RichEd highvoltage
[04:59] <sbalneav> I'm working on adding python.pexpect support into the pipeline to handles errors/password expiry.
[04:59] <ogra-classmate> RichEd: let me finish the image first ... we'll test during the week, i need to test myself first, currently i'm running everything fromn an external 2g usbstick
[05:00] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: no rush ... when you feel you are at a good baseline, we'll give the "upgrade" a go
[05:00] <ogra-classmate> yep
[05:01] <ogra-classmate> well, i felt a bit under pressure from maria ... i was wondering if i should just send her one usbstick with the image to boot from
[05:02] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: is there a specific mail where she is asking for quick results ?
[05:02] <ogra-classmate> intel also sent me a new driver from ralink i'll have to test that as well and i'm still missing an idea why the resuming doesnt work
[05:03] <ogra-classmate> there was one about he wanting to demo it if we have anything already
[05:03] <ogra-classmate> s/he/her
[05:12] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: please /join #CmPc @canonical
[05:15] <juliux> are there only classmate pc user allowed;)
[05:15] <RichEd> ping ogra
[05:15] <ogra-classmate> i'm there :)
[05:17] <RichEd> thanks
[05:40] <highvoltage> hey juliux
[05:51] <life> hi
[05:51] <life> anyone in?
[05:51] <life> i have some questions about edubuntu
[05:51] <life> hello?
[05:59] <sbalneav> Hello
[05:59] <sbalneav> What can I help you with?
[06:00] <sbalneav> life: ping
[06:01] <highvoltage> sometimes you give life a ping, and get nothing back. that's just how life is.
[06:03] <RichEd> life has quit ? quit living or quite smoking life or quit asking questions ?
[06:04] <RichEd> *quit smoking life
[06:05] <willvdl> quit quitting
[06:09] <LaserJock> morning Edubuntu people!
[06:11] <willvdl> evening LaserJock
[06:11] <RichEd> hello LaserJock
[06:12] <RichEd> bye all ... dinner with the father in law
[06:12] <highvoltage> it's tough when life quits on you.
[06:12] <highvoltage> bye RichEd!
[06:12] <highvoltage> morning LaserPerson!
[06:12] <LaserJock> heh
[06:16] <LaserJock> ogra-classmate: yeah, I'm a member again ;-)
[06:17] <LaserJock> hmm
[06:18] <LaserJock> we should probably talk about EC at the meeting today
[06:24] <highvoltage> LaserJock: the TB meeting?
[06:25] <LaserJock> oh wait, Edubuntu meeting is tomorrow
[06:25] <LaserJock> my bad
[06:27] <bddebian> Heya
[06:27] <highvoltage> hey bddbbdebian
[06:27] <bddebian> Hi highvoltage
[06:40] <LaserJock> ogra-classmate: when you've got a chance please sponsor my debdiff on bug #32252
[06:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 32252 in tuxpaint "Installs two desktop launchers in different sections" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/32252
[06:43] <ogra-classmate> indeed
[06:51] <LaserJock> I didn't realize that bug was affecting gnome-app-install
[06:51] <LaserJock> I'm not sure if we have any other "offenders" installing .desktop to non-/usr/share/applications/ directories but we need to fix any that we might have
[08:26] <GNu_Joe> is there a live-CD version of the Edubuntu server? need something to demo to a grade school
[08:26] <highvoltage> nixternal: not yet
[08:26] <highvoltage> nixternal: oops, not you :)
[08:26] <highvoltage> GNu_Joe: no, not yet. it is planned for a future release though
[08:27] <GNu_Joe> any ideas on how to demo Edubuntu to show how it will allow the old equiptment to be used again?
[08:28] <cbx33> hey highvoltage
[08:28] <highvoltage> hey see bee ex 33
[08:31] <cbx33> hey HedgeMage
[08:43] <LaserJock> GNu_Joe: there is a LiveCD
[08:43] <LaserJock> that would show off the apps and what it'd look like
[08:43] <GNu_Joe> LaserJock, yes?
[08:43] <LaserJock> but it won't demo the LTSP setup
[08:44] <GNu_Joe> LaserJock, need to demo the LTSP stuff
[08:44] <LaserJock> then I'd take a laptop with Edubuntu on it
[08:44] <LaserJock> and do a direct connection to one of their machines
[09:12] <HedgeMage> crimsun: hi
[09:12] <HedgeMage> oops
[09:20] <HedgeMage> hi cbx33
[09:22] <cbx33> hey HedgeMage
[09:22] <nixternal> oi!
[09:25] <GNu_Joe> Can the LiveCD be used to doa LTSP boot?
[09:25] <cbx33> did anyone get an email about ubuntu live?
[09:43] <LaserJock> GNu_Joe: you mean as the client?
[09:44] <sbalneav> GNu_Joe: Best way would be to set up Edubuntu server on a laptop or something like that, then come in, and boot the lab off of that.
[09:47] <yuriy> hoping of course that the lab computers can boot off the network
[09:48] <LaserJock> you check that first of course ;-)
[12:18] <willvdl> alright. back online.
[12:19] <willvdl> having pcmcia issues. the pccardctl util tends to hang uninteruptably