=== Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-006-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] Riddell: We need to smack whoever decided not to make KDE3 compatibility classes for the various KDE3 action classes. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:31] hi all [12:32] cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/share/services/kresources/kabc/net.desktop': No such file or directory [12:37] from? [12:39] kdelibs 3.5.7 === Hobbsee needs it for reference [12:39] dh_install --list-missing [12:39] oh bugger, not this root problem again [12:40] haha, I had to go through and do that [12:40] I am stuck not having libsyndication, so I can't build kde4pim [12:40] heh [12:44] crimsun: would you happen to know of a way that all the files dont change to ownership root when bindmounting a directory in pbuilder? [12:44] does using fakeroot stop that? [12:45] fakeroot shouldn't have anything to do with that. [12:45] that's what i thought... [12:45] i just dont rememmber usually having this problem === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-006-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:55] Riddell: oh dear. i look like a drowned water rat in that picture [12:59] hehe, I just watched Flushed Away last night (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424095/) === Hobbsee pokes for life [01:12] how is 1300 UTC for our meeting, sometime next week? [01:16] 1AM, lovely === ajmitch will try & be asleep by then [01:17] :) [01:17] maybe, 1300 UTC on this friday, seeing as there's nothign else scheduled [01:17] poor ajmitch [01:17] ajmitch: you have to do the MOTU one [01:17] I know [01:17] I'll try & avoid it if possible [01:20] I'm a bit dismayed that a couple people are unhappy with the current situation but haven't proposed feasible resolutions. [01:20] Oh well. :-) [01:21] crimsun: yes, we suck. [01:21] we know it. [01:22] nah, no one in here. [01:22] crimsun: still, it doesnt mean that we're not thinking about it, just because we're not actually proposing a solution === Hobbsee thought she was the troublemaking one [01:22] Hobbsee: you are [01:23] oh good [01:23] I would propose a solution, but I don't even know what the problem is ;) [01:23] good thing i was too cold to cause trouble at UDS then [01:23] nixternal: we know your problem. Stop using Vista as the excuse! [01:23] nevah! [01:23] Vista > GNOME any day [01:23] KDE > Vista > Windows ME > GNOME [01:24] tis what you get! [01:24] and another kde4 build bites the dust [01:24] hehe [01:24] nixternal: who do you think will win? you or me? [01:24] you [01:24] hands down === Hobbsee wonders just how long she's got for these builds [01:26] Oh, come on. Proprietary software will never be better than Free Software :) [01:27] Besides, we looked at Ubuntu Studio at the Ubuntu-Illinois meeting. [01:27] manchicken: in this case.... ;) [01:27] Not too shabby. [01:27] Kubuntu Studio would be better === nixternal hears a project coming on [01:27] Ku Ku Studio [01:28] sing it like Phil Collins would though [01:28] ahh, the reason for this build failure for kdeedu is booged code it seems [01:29] error: 'class QPolygonF' has no member named 'containsPoint' [01:29] lovely [01:29] hehe [01:30] nixternal: Get right on that :) [01:31] on which one? [01:31] kubuntu studio [01:31] the code or the Phil Collins Kubuntu === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Prezu [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] uploading my kde4 amd64 packages now [02:03] admin, graphics, toys, multimedia, and games [02:03] nothing else wants to play nice and build [02:04] so the rest need some tweaking to satisfy [02:04] yay! [02:04] and from the looks of it, a lot of tweaking [02:04] you're beating me, then [02:04] that won't last long [02:04] nixternal: and lots of pointy-clicky vista action? [02:04] omg drown! [02:04] haha [02:04] damn you crimsun [02:04] haha [02:05] it has migrated to another channel [02:05] it started in motu, now kubuntu-devel...what's next? [02:05] #ubuntu-devel [02:05] hte rest of the ubuntu channels [02:05] nobody knows me there [02:05] sure sure [02:08] nixternal: you know you're going to be teased about that forever, dont you? [02:08] i'm surprised no one's blogged about it yet [02:09] thanks Hobbsee for giving them the idea [02:09] haha [02:09] I have never ever even used Vista === Hobbsee pulls up her blog... [02:09] sure, that's what they all say... === nixternal removes blog from planet, Hobbsee's blog that is [02:09] I will admit to having a 20GB partition with XP on it though [02:10] nah, that's Vista with an XP theme. [02:10] lol [02:10] I can't afford Vista === Hobbsee has an XP partition === Hobbsee has 2 linux ones, though [02:10] well, + /home [02:10] I only use it for the stupid VB class at school and to play Battlefield 2 [02:10] oh, I have at least 20 linux ones [02:11] hehe [02:11] not including chroots === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.181.228.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:31] LOCK KDEgames === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:36] evening === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:37] woot! kdelibs built === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.90] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:47] Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/pkg/kde4-feisty-amd64/ [02:47] that is what we have so far [02:48] nixternal: is it shiny? [02:48] nope [02:48] hehe [02:48] aww [02:48] JR has the rest on http://kubuntu.or/~jriddell/tmp/3.90.1 [02:48] does it point and click? [02:48] you know it [03:14] Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/pkg/7.10/kubuntu-docs/ === Hobbsee builds kdegames [03:16] hiya nixternal [03:16] howdy jjesse [03:16] ewww, kdepim buglist looks evil [03:17] alrighty, nevermind kflickr then [03:17] kdenetwork looks equally bad [03:18] ya, kdepim is nasty [03:18] I went through one evening a few months back and attempted to clean it up as well [03:18] wth needs a sync/merge that hasn't already? [03:19] ksudoku will, but not yet [03:19] k [03:19] (it hasnt cleared debian yet) [03:19] I will work on tonio's kftpgrabber [03:19] oh, iknow [03:19] oh you do [03:19] tell me ;) [03:19] yakuake needs cleaning up [03:20] we should sync that from debian, if we can, and push our changes back [03:20] ahh, my favorite [03:20] basket 1.0.2 is released, too [03:20] we can sync it from debian I believe..I am running a debian version...ooh, I am using hte new beta one..that's right [03:20] excellent [03:20] I will check it out now [03:21] good. still building. === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:24] hrmm..i figured since ana was doing yakuake it would be in extras [03:27] Hobbsee: that libtool update patch, I can replace that with the relibtoolization at build like we have been doing in kde-extras [03:27] that will drop a patch [03:27] then again...it is patched in debian as well [03:28] nixternal: ahhh... [03:28] hrmm [03:29] now yakuake_2.8~beta1-1 doesn't have any patches at all [03:29] I don't believe it is going to stay beta much longer, but Sho_ would know better about that [03:31] right, yeah [03:33] I wonder if we should even worry about 2.7.5 for Gutsy [03:34] want to just request a beta sync? or is that to scary [03:35] basket 1.0.2-1 is already in the repos [03:38] oh neat [03:38] yeah, request the beta sync [03:38] roger === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957C2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:50] wow i have no focus tonight to get any work done [03:52] what is focus? [03:52] :/ [03:52] apparently something i'm lacking tonight [03:52] something I must be lacking for years now... or maybe my whole life :D [03:53] i think its the heroes season finale that is doing it [03:53] hehe :) [03:53] I can hear it playing [03:59] wow that was an awesome ending :) [04:00] maybe now i can work [04:00] "maybe"... :D [04:04] shh i haven't seen it yet, others are watching 24 [04:04] yuriy: ok i won't tell anything [04:04] some of us don't care about 24 :) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:36] grr, no go on yakuake sync...we had Kubuntu changes..I have updated the changes, dropped one patch, and am building it now..will request merge after testing [04:37] hrmm, wrong chan [04:37] grin :) [04:37] :P [04:37] hehe [04:37] oh well === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.181.228.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hsitter [n=me@N756P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick is now known as LongVeryPointySt === LongVeryPointySt is now known as LongPointyStick === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-228.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:20] <_marseillais> hi === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57aed310.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais_ [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:20] Riddell: re 3.5.7> knetworkmanager works now, thanks === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AED310.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [i=sfs@nat/ibm/x-b92ecabcc2a4e05b] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:04] <_StefanS_> morning === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@WL-POOL00-51.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@194.187.225.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:09] hey :) [10:09] fdoving: interested in fixing another media related bug ? [10:09] fdoving: very small one, bug annoying :) === mbiebl [n=michael@e180071172.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:11] hi mbiebl [10:11] Tonio_: hi [10:21] <_marseillais_> yop Tonio_ :) [10:21] <_marseillais_> could you come 2 minutes on kubuntu-fr [10:21] <_marseillais_> i got a little thing to ask to you === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54955844.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:52] Riddell: kdegames done [11:02] anyone alive? [11:04] <_marseillais_> hi Hobbsee [11:04] <_marseillais_> for the patch i send to you yesterday [11:04] <_marseillais_> it build but it makes kopete crash (i've only install kopete from kde3.5.7 and keep all kdenetwork from kde 3.5.6 [11:04] <_marseillais_> i'll try today to fix it === Tonio__ [n=tonio@194.187.225.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:04] ahh [11:05] okay [11:05] hi Tonio_! === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [11:17] Hobbsee: got kdelibs available? [11:17] Riddell: sure [11:17] Riddell: same place as the rest [11:18] Hobbsee: remind me again where that is === Hobbsee has done arts, kdelibs, kdegames, and is working on kdepim at the moment [11:18] hobbsee.ubuntwire.com/kdelibs [11:18] and the binaries are in /debs [11:18] Riddell: you're looking at doing some? [11:19] Hobbsee: I'll look at uploading what you've done first [11:19] Riddell: okay :) === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AED1EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee closes more bugs. [11:23] nixternal: where are your source packages? === _marseillais_ is now known as marseillai [11:25] Riddell: suggest you use /lastlog [11:27] Riddell: kde 3.5.7 was to be the last kde4 release, right? [11:27] that's unclear, there may be a 3.5.8 [11:28] Hobbsee: KDE3, probably not. [11:28] ah right [11:28] It's supposed to become less though. [11:28] But it will be supported for some time to come. [11:29] Yielding the interesting question if that's long enough for Gutsy+1 as LTS, or if that should be KDE4-based [11:29] That also depends on when 4.0 and 4.1 will be out. === Hobbsee --> dinner [11:30] sebas: er, yeah, kde3 [11:30] sebas: what do you mean by supported? [11:31] hi sebas. has anybody yet worked on separating the displayconfig backend from guidance? [11:32] Riddell: Upstream fixes bugs [11:32] glatzor: Nope, a bit busy atm [11:33] And I'm not a packaging dude anyway [11:33] glatzor: not imminently, it'll happen as part of merges hopefully but just now there's three kde releases being packaged [11:45] Riddell: I'll probably be there tomorrow to help on packaging 3.5.7 if needed === superstoned_ [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned_ [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ is now known as Tonsio_ === Tonsio_ is now known as Tonio_ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:13] (darn connection) === glatzor [n=sebi@p54967437.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-62-244.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:46] Riddell: whihc bit of kde are you doing now? [12:47] Hobbsee: I'm not, I'm still waking up :) [12:49] right === Hobbsee hands you some irn bru :P [12:49] whee! [12:50] hehe! === Hobbsee notes you didnt get tipsy at UDS that she saw :( [12:59] Tonio_: about? [12:59] Riddell: ? [12:59] Riddell: i want to attack kdepim, and kdenetwork. the rest i dont mind about, per se === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] Tonio_: do you want to be assigned any specs? e.g. kubuntu-accessibility-keyboard, kubuntu-dolphin-by-default? [01:00] Hobbsee: for kdepim you may want to fix the debian/rules include for simple-patchsys, it's a local include but should be the normal cdbs one [01:00] right, thanks for the headsup [01:01] Riddell: hum yes please, I'll work on those 2 ones [01:01] Riddell: and probably the kdebluetooth one too :) [01:02] I can't find the bluetooth one now [01:02] Riddell: I'll take those in charge, and btw as soon as you have 3.5.7 packages out, I'll also start to backport the fixes w have done for the french parliament [01:02] Riddell: hu ? let me check === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:03] Riddell: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-bluetooth [01:04] Riddell: can't wait to be back in the effort..... one month without even an upload...... I'm angry :) [01:05] poor Tonio_ [01:05] :P [01:05] Tonio_: i'm wokrign on them - but i am at uni too... [01:06] Hobbsee: the good point is that I already have a bunch of uploads to perform, but I need deps to come in the repos first (kaffeine.......) === mbiebl [n=michael@e180071172.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] someone could explain me what can be the reason why i don't have any backtrace : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21968/ ??? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hsitter [n=me@N937P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:18] marseillai_: the crash is caused by the library missing a function, not by something that needs a backtrace [01:25] oki [01:25] thanks Riddell [01:25] it's because i've done something bad in my package? === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:34] marseillai_: something has done something bad yes [01:35] Do the 3.5.7 feisty packages have known regressions? [01:35] it's using a library version that it wasn't compiled with [01:35] sebas: not so far [01:35] Ok thanks :) === sebas upgrades then [01:35] xinerama probably broken [01:35] I will be able to tell you in a minute. [01:36] Well, some minutes. === Huahua [n=hua@116.21.125.132] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mars [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-62-244.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee is just being slow === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === buz [n=buz@84-72-54-173.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has left #kubuntu-devel ["irssi] [01:40] can i trigger the same HAL code path that guidance power manager uses for suspend from the cli? [01:41] buz: power-manager has dcop interface [01:41] buz: or use dbus [01:42] buz: it is couple of lines of python code [01:42] for dcop i need kde running (i' trying to debug a suspend issue from text mode) [01:42] ok i'll see about that === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEE847.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:42] buz: for command line you can do "sudo pmi action suspend" (or hibernate) [01:42] ah that was what i was looking for [01:42] thanks! [01:42] Riddell: it's because i've done something bad in my package or it's an upstream bug? upstream dev say it comes from my package but i don't think i've done anything bad [01:43] mars: only reason I can think of is that you're mixing files from different compiled (e.g. your compile and a package from the archive) [01:44] oki i'll continue this later this evening [01:44] and don't give up [01:45] Riddell: do you know if all the kubuntu-specific patches in kdepim have been named kubuntu_*? [01:46] Hobbsee: yes [01:46] they have [01:46] excellent [01:48] yay, power === Hobbsee notes that she's diff'd this backwards, which wont be helping. [01:49] does kde3.5.7 have a fix for those annoying crashes in kmail when you select a new mail? [01:49] buz: should do, yes. [01:50] finally ;) [01:50] that nearly drove me to thunderbird a while back [01:50] as in, assuming usptream has actually fixed it like they say htey have [01:50] well they claimed to have fixed in their dev branch but i couldnt figure out if that got incorporated into 3.5.7 [01:50] Riddell: do we still want to use -make-orig-source: .... in the rules file? === Hobbsee can pastebin, for more info [01:52] and simple-patchsys is already not a local one [01:52] were you thinking of debian-qt-mk? [01:52] include debian/cdbs/debian-qt-kde.mk [01:53] Hobbsee: I must have been thinking of the feisty packages === Hobbsee is slightly confused as to what that's there for, as it's not in kubuntu-debian-changes [01:53] Hobbsee: I don't use make-orig-source [01:53] right [01:54] Riddell: http://rafb.net/p/KLYONC76.html is something debian had and dropped, then? [01:54] Hobbsee: guess so, I removed those files upstream so there shouldn't be a need to do it as packagers [01:54] cool === Hobbsee testbuilds, then [01:55] oh, bugger it. i wanted to fix your bodgy networkstatus [02:05] why is there a flurry of posts about women in OSS? did something happen? [02:05] seele: when? [02:05] and where? [02:06] oh, ubuntu planet, the equality stuff? [02:06] melissa, richard, daniel, mark van den borre [02:06] yeah [02:07] interesting [02:07] i think some of them discussed it at UDS [02:07] jono was interested in it [02:07] and i never hear anyone asking "Where are all the Black people in OSS" [02:07] seeing as there are very few women around in ubuntu [02:07] this is true - but tha twould be more discrimatory [02:07] well, obvious discrimination, more so [02:07] maybe [02:08] why? because i'm pointing out that a group is underrepresented in my world in the universe of OSS? [02:08] i'm not sure [02:08] thats what people are doing with women [02:08] this is true [02:08] LP users has had a recent thread about code of conduct for LP, and having to use full names [02:09] i'd suspect that there's more of a culture to say "dont jump on the black people" in lots of places [02:09] whereas women are the context of a lot of men's jokes [02:09] but i'm really not sure, and i think i'm ranting [02:09] yeah, i dunno [02:10] i didnt realise the topic of black people was sensitive outside the US [02:10] it's not, inside the US? === Hobbsee doesnt know [02:10] no, it is inside the uS [02:11] we did a great job of fucking over black people and native americans in the 300 years [02:11] say if i were to have a go at aboriginies in my country...it wouldnt go down so well - i'd get labelled racist very quickly [02:11] yes [02:11] why? wouldnt that make people sexist for pointing out women's issues? [02:12] i just dont understand why every time the code of conduct or other social issue comes up, women in floss has to be discussed === Zanoi_ [n=zanoi@zanoi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee shrugs === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@WL-POOL02-44.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:13] sorry, didnt meant to take it out on you [02:13] it seems to me that there's a great push to try to establish something that they'll never see - and that htey'll never really undersatnd, as they havent been thru [02:13] no problem [02:14] i suspect that they're only looking at one subset at a time, though. like women first, then black people, or whatever === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottK has never understood how one gets people to stop dividing people into groups by dividing people into groups ... [02:15] ScottK: heh. that's one of the reasons i'm not in ubuntu-women [02:16] seele: i guess one thing is, with the women groups, that a lot of the women wont put up with the same shit that you or i will, just because we're more used to it. so it probably has a place. [02:16] i guess [02:17] but some women cant separate a comment that was made to them because they were a bitch rather because they have a vagina [02:17] this is true [02:17] which means they need educatoin too [02:17] yeah [02:17] or an appointment with the cluebat, either way. [02:17] i'm all for the education of sexist attitude, its just my opinion that is not whats going on here [02:18] what do you think is going on? [02:18] i dont know [02:18] some people like to complain, some people dont like being underrepresented, some people like fighting for a cause === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-006-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:19] soem people have the bad luck of working with assholes [02:19] but it should remain on social issues, not the fact that women get picked on [02:19] because i dont think that happens as much as it seems to be talked about === sebas [i=sebas@belphegor.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] cant say i've been overly picked on, apart from UDS, in a good...maybe 3 months? [02:21] wait, does bluefoxicy count? === jjesse [n=jjesse@207.73.139.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:22] you were picked on at UDS? [02:22] some. not much [02:22] not by you people [02:23] where you == kubuntu type [02:23] no kde love [02:24] seele: apologies. kubuntu-type == kubuntu+kde [02:24] hehe [02:25] seemed so few, so i grouped them together === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4475f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p54967437.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |TheInfinity| [n=TheInfin@WL-POOL02-44.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:49] grrrr my poor c++ skills tell me it should work : ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/kopete/kdenetwork-3.5.7/debian/patches/kubuntu_08_emoticons_editor.diff but it doesn't. === glatzor_ [n=sebi@p54966345.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:50] my non-existant c++ skills tell me I'm not the one to help you figure it out ;-) [02:55] marseillai: have an http link ? [02:55] marseillai: I'd like to have a look but it looks like I can't connect to your ftp... [02:56] marseillai: the link isn't good in fact [02:56] 404 for me [02:57] arf ah oui [02:57] wait [02:57] Tonio_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21975/ [02:59] Tonio_, it crashes when i use edittheme function telling me this error : symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kopete_appearanceconfig.so: undefined symbol: _ZN19EmoticonsEditDialogC1EP7QWidget7QStringPKc === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4475f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger is waiting for the new kde to appear in gutsy. === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@WL-POOL02-44.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:15] marseillai: Try pasting the _ZN... stuff into c++filt. That should at least give you the demangeled name. [03:15] hunger: there are a few debs [03:16] Hobbsee: Not yet in gutsy. Don't want to add more repositories than absolutely necessary. === Hobbsee isnt repo-literate, so there are only debs [03:16] i believe Riddell is going to start uploading them [03:16] Wow, great! [03:16] Riddell: it'd be nice to upload arts+kdelibs for a start === hunger hops. [03:16] makingthe rest easier to build with pbuilder [03:17] Hobbsee: will do after lunch [03:17] : [03:17] :) [03:17] hunger, i don't understand what you've said [03:17] Riddell: Thanks! [03:17] marseillai: fiou....... that patch is wau too complicated for my poor c++ knowledge :) [03:18] marseillai: try "c++filt _ZN19EmoticonsEditDialogC1EP7QWidget7QStringPKc" in a terminal. [03:18] oki [03:18] i'm currently at work [03:18] marseillai: That should give you proper classnames, etc. on the missing symbol. [03:18] but i'll try [03:18] oki [03:18] Riddell: kcontrol is broken again in gutsy.... same problem we previously had during feisty..... I'll have a look at that [03:18] marseillai: It is EmoticonsEditDialog::EmoticonsEditDialog(QWidget*, QString, char const*) for what its worse. [03:19] Riddell: looks like the obex kcontrol entry is back and afaicr that was causing the issue.... [03:19] thanks hunger [03:19] marseillai: The compiler pushes all those C++ names through a wringer and turns them into this undecipherable garbadge. [03:19] marseillai: c++filt reverses the process:-) [03:19] so the message means that this function is missing in /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kopete_appearanceconfig.so ???? [03:19] Yes. [03:20] Is it in one of the source files? Is that compiled and linked into the .so-file? [03:20] Usually this kind of thing happens when you screw up the build system:-) [03:20] really? i don't know [03:21] Riddell: kdepim done [03:21] i've apply a patch find on kde-apps and build it hunger [03:21] bah. or not [03:21] but your information gives some way to looks for problem [03:21] :) [03:21] thanks [03:21] marseillai: You are welcome. [03:23] hunger, may be if you look at the patch you could see something : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21975/ (if you have time) [03:23] Hobbsee: you rock [03:23] marseillai: I don't. But I'll sneak a peek anyway;-) [03:24] Riddell: failed at the end. grr. [03:25] marseillai: There is no such method:-( === hunger wonders why it thinks there should be. [03:25] yes [03:25] i've just saw that [03:25] Oh, sorry, just missed it. It is there. [03:26] there is only +EmoticonsEditDialog::EmoticonsEditDialog(QWidget *parent, QString theme, const char* name) wich i not exactly the same [03:26] marseillai: line 274. [03:26] it's not exactly the same you told me [03:26] it's const char* instead of char const* [03:26] marseillai: It is close enough I thing. [03:27] marseillai: That patch seems to introduce a new file (kdenetwork-3.5.7/kopete/kopete/config/appearance/emoticonseditdialog.cpp). [03:27] I do not see where that is made known to the buildsystem. [03:27] yes [03:28] line 589 hunger [03:28] marseillai: Hmmm... right:-( [03:28] What did you do after applying the patch? reconfigure? [03:29] no [03:29] debuild and build in pbuilder [03:29] I think you might even need to rerun automake to generate the proper makefiles. [03:31] before building ? [03:31] but the patch only apply after the build [03:32] but the patch only apply after the build start === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] <_StefanS_> Riddell: any plans for adding kdevelop 3.4.1 to the kde 3.5.7 repo? [03:36] _StefanS_: I don't plan to, it wasn't trvial to do so I left it out [03:36] <_StefanS_> Riddell: okay, dont bother about it then :) === Hobbsee rebuilds kdepim. gah [03:36] <_StefanS_> Riddell: not really important [03:36] <_StefanS_> Riddell: the packages work fine btw === glatzor_ [n=sebi@p57aee847.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] Hobbsee: what's up? [03:38] Riddell: FTBFS - a file doesnt exist anymore. [03:38] debuild -nc is your friend [03:38] but this should be it, i hope [03:38] Tonio_: I've right now configured my mighty bt mouse without command line help. With kdebluetooth-dbus-integration it will work out of the box (no hidd necessary) [03:38] what's that do? [03:38] the -nc bit? no clean? [03:38] rebuilds without cleaning first [03:39] neat === Hobbsee notes that photo is seriously evil... === allee admires Hobbsee. Without -nc I would have never dared to build kdelibs kdebase .. [03:40] haha === Hobbsee hasnt done kdebase [03:41] and i dont think that admiring for idiocy is terribly good, anyway [03:41] Riddell, my patch for kopete changes makefile.am and it seems this change are not take into account during the build! is there a way to change that? [03:41] marseillai: make -f debian/rules buildprep [03:41] which applies the patch and runs autothings [03:42] thanks a lot! :) [03:42] so like that the patck _should_ work [03:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: someone is asking on bug 103401, regarding the unfixed reboot/restart button [03:42] Launchpad bug 103401 in kdebase "Reboot-Restart Button with classic LogOut Dialog (doUbuntuLogout=0) doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103401 [03:43] <_StefanS_> Riddell: the packages for kde 3.5.7 is just the same as 3.5.6 patch-wise, right? [03:43] _StefanS_: they are yes [03:43] <_StefanS_> Riddell: well, I'll just write that in the bug [03:43] Riddell, last question : is there a way with pbuilder ton build ONLY kopete and not all kdenetwork wich take for me more than an hour and a half ? [03:44] marseillai: nope, you'd have to compile by hand for that === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@WL-POOL00-57.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:45] oki Riddell thanks anyway === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:48] allee: interesting [03:48] allee: where is the package ? [03:48] allee: build from svn ? [03:49] allee: let's stay connected on that point as I'll start working on that spec soon :) [03:52] <_StefanS_> hey Tonio_ [03:52] _StefanS_: Hi _StefanS_ [03:52] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: so youre checking time, eh :) [03:52] yo _StefanS_ rbrunhuber [03:52] _StefanS_ : I tried to find out if you are ilde. but did not succeed. [03:53] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: I was born idle. [03:54] _StefanS_ : Ok back to other topics. My networkmanager is not running anymore. So no bug for .x509 and no mockups. [03:54] allee: I am on the svn, looks pretty active at the moment [03:55] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: well thats bad :) - why dont you just reinstall the packages? [03:55] allee: I'd like to know when is that supposed to be released [03:55] allee: but that sounds promissing :) let's try to get that done with gutsy..... I'll update the wikipage concerning this [03:56] sebas: you're being marked as the assignee of kubuntu-gutsy-guidance since you were at UDS (although it'll presumably be the usual mix of you, me, lure, sime, whoever else) [03:56] _StefanS_ : I upgraded to gutsy already (I don't use the machine productive). There are unmet dependencies. [03:56] Riddell: That means? [03:56] rbrunhuber: fix is on it's way [03:56] rbrunhuber: downgrade to feisty version of networkstatus [03:56] sebas: it means you get launchpad karma :) [03:56] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: ok nevermind that, I have almost done the LEAP thingy btw [03:56] Hehe. [03:56] sebas: you should implement it and we will look at you ;-) [03:56] I'll happily wait for launchpad karma then. [03:56] rbrunhuber: unmet deps are normal, etc [03:57] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: could you write me what commands you use to split up the certificate manually? [03:57] I'll implement parts and merge patches of others. [03:57] Someone came up and started on powermanager port to Qt4 btw [03:58] _StefanS_ : Can i send them later to you. Not on a linux machine now. [03:58] sebas: really? who's that? [03:58] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: thats fine [03:58] Tonio_: So when are you going to teach me how to use rosetta? [03:58] A student from Edinburgh [03:58] David Edmundson [03:58] mikearthur? [03:58] oh, another one [03:58] sebas: do we have the right pyqt4 in feisty - only latest support dbus event loop, afair [03:58] cool [03:58] I told you that blogging works ;-) [03:58] Lure: Dunno [03:59] He first starts to straightforward port, and then hopefully make it event-based rather than polling [03:59] sebas: I tried event loop stuff (have proto code), but I had to use snapshot version of pyqt [03:59] sebas: when port is done, I can finish event loop stuff [03:59] Lure: isn't the code for that in dbus python bindings rather than pyqt? [03:59] sebas: will port be done on branch? [04:00] Lure: Not sure, he'll send patches as soon as something works [04:00] Riddell: no, python-dbus only ship glib loop, while pyqt adds another qt event loop support [04:00] I've already merged an unrelated patch by him yesterday (extending the dbus interface) [04:01] _StefanS_ : I'm such a dumbshot. I have a second machine at home which still uses feisty. So i can use that for mockups and things. Did not think on this, because it only uses wired networking so no need for knetworkmanager. [04:01] sebas: good - I plan to rework battery stuff a bit (so that we have support for ups and mouse battery too) [04:01] sebas: just need to find some time ;-) [04:02] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: ok sounds good :) - please send those split commands for x509 also (mailto: sfs@enhance-it.dk) [04:02] I'm still not sure what mouse battery has to do there, and how that should be presented to the user. [04:05] Hobbsee, Riddell: The kde 3.5.7 packages for feisty are great. Installed them yesterday. Upgrade was very smooth. [04:05] rbrunhuber: gutsy or feisty? [04:05] Hobbsee : Feisty. [04:05] ah right === Hobbsee cant take any credit for that, then [04:06] Hobbsee : Did the gutsy packages already hit the repos? [04:07] sebas: it would be just another bar under battery with type as label (type: Primary, Mouse, UPS...) [04:07] rbrunhuber: no. see earlier. [04:07] they're only partly built [04:07] Lure: Is that kind of stuff in HAL? [04:07] sebas: the only additional aspect could be pasive notification on low battery (but I do not plan to do this unless I have some tester with HW) [04:07] sebas: yes, there is bug opened with UPS details [04:08] sebas: currently we filter out battery by type != "primary" [04:08] Lure: What about energy level of the user :-)? [04:08] rbrunhuber: that will be after kde4 port ;-) [04:08] rbrunhuber: we need plasma for that ;-) [04:09] Lure : Or even better oxygen :-) === hsitter [n=me@N937P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] rbrunhuber: great, thanks for testing [04:29] Lure: ah, I see. there was someone who packaged the new pyqt but I've entirely forgotten who it was now [04:29] someone on #kde-devel [04:30] Riddell : Thanks for packaging :-) === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-153-43-232.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee tries debuild -nc [04:37] Riddell: I will upload them now [04:38] Riddell: it seems we just need sync: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/python/python-qt4 [04:39] Lure: nice [04:40] cp: cannot stat `/home/hobbsee/kdepim/kdepim-3.5.7/debian/tmp////usr/bin/kitchensync': No such file or directory [04:40] wtf? [04:40] !language [04:40] :) [04:40] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [04:41] they havent suddenly moved the binary or something, have htey? === Hobbsee ignores Tonio_, and sleeps on his shoulder instead. [04:41] Hobbsee: 3.5.7 is supposed to have new kitchensync - using opensync framework [04:41] Hobbsee: maybe you need to add some build rules for it [04:41] Lure: so i'm seeing... === manchicken [n=manchkn@adsl-76-199-11-5.dsl.chmpil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:42] Hobbsee: just kiddin' of course [04:42] Hobbsee: http://www.in.fh-merseburg.de/~jahn/opensync-0.21/ might be of help - they have older version of it as separate package [04:43] Hobbsee: see kitchensync-opensync on that page [04:43] Hobbsee: disclaimer: I just think this is the same ;-) [04:43] heh [04:43] hmmm.. debian still has that file in place === Hobbsee gives up for a while [04:44] it's almost done [04:45] it's on @aurora.ubuntuwire.com in /home/hobbsee/kdepim if anyone wants to look at it [04:48] Tonio_: So when are you gonna give me that crash course in translations? [04:49] Lure: i think i'll just remove all of kitchensync :P [04:49] Hobbsee: please don't - I really hope we can have proper sync with phones in gutsy [04:49] Lure: it appeared to build for debian, which is the weird thing [04:50] s/build/built/ [04:50] Hobbsee: but you can do it temporarily [04:50] Hobbsee: maybe debian has newer opensync? [04:50] not much point === Hobbsee will hope Riddell or someone has a look at it [04:50] nope [04:50] doesnt seem so [04:51] manchicken: as soon as get my normal life back :) [04:51] manchicken: possibly next week [04:51] I know that feeling. [04:51] We had to *RUSH* to the doctor's yesterday in panic mode. I really hope that doesn't happen too much more. I don't think I can handle that much fear. [04:53] manchicken: ouch....... [04:53] Tell me about it. === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4475f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] Tonio_: sure, what bug do you have in mind? [05:04] fdoving: here is how to reproduce [05:04] fdoving: insert 2 usb keys [05:04] ah, that one. [05:05] right click the desktop icons -> you can eject [05:05] eject one of the keys : you can't eject anymore :) [05:05] fdoving: known bug according to you ? [05:05] yeah, i know it. [05:05] i'll have a look later today. [05:06] fdoving: thanks :) [05:06] Tonio_: did you see the mail i sent you, about k-d-s and konqueror view-modes? [05:06] fdoving: not yet, when did you send it ? [05:07] friday, 21:20 [05:07] Subject: Fwd: [Bug 69168] Re: konqueror file manager loses chosen view setting [05:07] Launchpad bug 69168 in kubuntu-default-settings "konqueror file manager loses chosen view setting" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69168 [05:07] fdoving: nothing in my mailbox [05:07] oh. [05:07] i'll re-send. [05:08] fdoving: just have your audiocd eject patch, that I'll upload if riddell doesn't put it in the 3.5.7 packages [05:08] fdoving: great thanks [05:09] sent. [05:09] bbl, dinner. i'll look at that remove-thing later. [05:10] fdoving: I agree concerning your fix [05:10] fdoving: we should enable this [05:11] fdoving: is that an hidden setting ? [05:11] fdoving: can't find it in the konqueror config menus === \sh is now known as \sh_away === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:33] Tonio_: what needs to go into 3.5.7? [05:35] Riddell: a fix for the media patches, to eject an audio cd [05:36] Tonio_: hidden by the kubuntu supplied .rc change. [05:37] fdoving: yep I saw that [05:37] Riddell: do you have the fix ? [05:37] Riddell: fdoving should have send it to you [05:37] Riddell: btw, if you don't have time, I'll just add the fix with a further upload [05:38] did i send anything to anyone? [05:38] Tonio_: don't think i sent it to riddell, maybe stefans did. [05:39] Riddell: I can send it to you if you want === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-53-230.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:40] is it to kdelibs? [05:40] kdebase iirc. [05:41] kdesktop/kdiconview.cc i think. [05:41] ah, I'm not on kdebase yet [05:41] but e-mail it to me and I'll incude it [05:42] Riddell: the mail is gone :) [05:42] it should probably be fixed in the media patch that makes the problem. [05:42] s/gone/sent [05:42] but i haven't found the time to do that yet. [05:42] fdoving: that's what I'm saying in the mail, that your patch is a "patch for the patch" === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:44] Riddell: about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-remove-media - that's more or less finished. [05:44] fdoving: groovy [05:45] you may win the prize for first gutsy spec to completion :) [05:45] Riddell: tonio did some testing and reports success. [05:45] Riddell: tiny spec :) [05:45] Riddell: we're using this in the french parliament [05:46] Riddell: 1000 computers, no issues reported :) [05:46] Tonio_: nice. :) === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:46] fdoving: btw, why an external application ? [05:46] isn't that simpler to just patch kdebase/kdelibs ? [05:47] fdoving: because getting this on the cd means, go through revu, get it approved, write a main inclusion report etc ........ [05:47] fdoving: why nor just patching the existing binary that just doesn't work as proposed, even if that means replace the all code ? [05:47] s/nor/not === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@134.82.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:48] Tonio_: well, i could make a patch to add the app to the kdebase source. [05:48] fdoving: that would be way easier for us to implement it [05:49] fdoving: then I'll just have to patch, test and upload and that it :) === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Moodle..."] [05:49] more work for me. [05:49] hum, indeed...... [05:49] well you decide, I'll manage to do the bureaucracy thing ;) [05:49] well.. i'd rather keep it separate. getting it into main can't be that much work. [05:50] fdoving: not that much [05:50] fdoving: as I said you decide :) [05:50] making it part of kdebase is more work, that's my guess. [05:50] then it'll be a separate package. [05:50] okay [05:51] well do you still have to work on the code ? [05:51] if not we should upload it to revu now [05:51] I may do it as I cleaned up your packaging a bit :) [05:51] missign builddeps etc... [05:51] code is finished if it works for your 1000 computers. [05:51] fdoving: perfect [05:51] fdoving: I'll upload to revu on friday and try to get it approved the same day [05:51] there is a new version at http://frode.kde.no/misc/kio_umountwrapper/ with automake deps. [05:51] that's on my todo list [05:51] great. [05:52] fdoving: great [05:52] and i'd like patches to the packaging, or links to source etc. when you're finished polishing packaging. [05:52] then if i ever make changes, the new packages will appear at http://frode.kde.no/misc/kio_umountwrapper/ [05:53] sure [05:53] fdoving: well I think it was just a matter of missing builddep [05:53] fdoving: those changes were just for the local deployement, I wouldn't have upload to revu without emailing you the changes :) [05:54] fdoving: btw we have to wait for kde 3.5.7 to reach the repos as we need the fixed kde code.... [05:54] fdoving: I won't patch kde 3.5.6 now :) === giangy [i=giangy@voyager.techtemple.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:00] Hi, I have to report two problems with kde 3.5.7 packages [06:01] lucky_lucas: what's up? [06:01] Hi Riddell let me explain [06:01] So first of all I did the update from CLI [06:02] I didn't add the key but it doesn't make a difference, does it ? [06:02] Know I wanted to install kdeveolp 3.4.1 and realize that only the 3.4.0 is available [06:03] I wanted to add the key with adept and the nice kubuntu way of managing repos is replace with the standrad adept one, which cannot handle key [06:03] replaced sorry === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:05] kdevelop isn't in the archive I'm afraid [06:05] do you have software-properties-kde installed? [06:05] I just check [06:06] no it wasn't installed i do it now [06:06] that's it [06:08] And now i got the nice kubuntu interface to manage the repos [06:08] thank you [06:08] It's maybe related with the fact that I installed ubuntu and after I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [06:08] ? [06:09] that should still install software-properties-kde [06:09] did you upgrade from edgy? [06:10] no a fresh install form ubuntu live cd [06:10] from sorry [06:10] curious [06:10] have you installed kde 4? [06:10] but I installed kde4 packages once [06:11] Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/pkg/7.04/kde4-3.90.1 [06:11] debs and src [06:11] that'll be it, the qt from kde 4 removes qt 4 apps like software-properties-kde [06:11] I will continue working on the other packages...as they will need to be created from scratch [06:11] nixternal: groovy [06:11] which from the looks of it, I can copy debian/ from other packages, make some changes, and build [06:11] nixternal: you could also try going i386 [06:11] heh, sure [06:12] tonio, there is no depend on it anywhere, you don't need any changes to kdebase as it won't autoinstall anywhere. should be fine to just upload. [06:12] nixternal: there are sources for other kde 4 packages in feisty [06:12] Riddell: thank you I didn't notice the change with kde4 packages because I rarely use adept [06:13] And only use because of the tutoriel on kubuntu.org to install your key [06:14] nothing stopping you doing it the command line either of course [06:15] Sure but I didn't remember the apt-key add sequence, so I follow the guide [06:17] Anyway, my two problems are fixed because the 3.4.1 isn't in the repos.. === \sh_away is now known as \sh === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:20] <\sh> Riddell: why don't we enable the exchange plugin for kdepim? [06:20] \sh: I don't know === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:22] <\sh> Riddell: I just saw it somewhere...hmm...lemme look === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:27] Heya === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-228.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:29] Riddell: perhaps we should add this correction to konqueror for feisty on kde 3.5.7 no ? === jjesse [n=jjesse@207.73.139.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:30] marseillai_: which? [06:30] arf sorry forgot link [06:30] did the gmail one make it into 3.5.7 ? [06:30] http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2807 [06:30] fdoving: no [06:30] it was what i talk about [06:30] marseillai_: ah, ok. i [06:30] i [06:30] grr.. [06:30] fdoving: yes [06:31] Riddell: ok. good. [06:31] Riddell: it seems no [06:31] Riddell: kde.org tagged 3.5.7 too, or did you patch it into the kubuntu package? [06:31] narishma on kubuntu-fr still have the bug [06:31] I checked half an hour ago, the code in that blog is in the current 3.5.7 tar [06:31] good. :) [06:32] possibly not the feisty ones though, KDE updated the tar throughout the week [06:32] ah oki === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:40] Riddell: indeed for feisty i've just check here : http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357/pool/kdelibs/kdelibs_3.5.7.orig.tar.gz and the patch is not here for gmail === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:42] marseillai_: fooey [06:43] Riddell: if i make a debdiff for that you are interest for feisty ? [06:44] marseillai_: the main task is finding the time to compile it [06:44] i understand [06:45] but now i allready one debdiff pour kde 3.5.7 : one for kopete and maybe another for konqueror and i can build for i386 [06:45] kopete? [06:46] yes === \sh is now known as \sh_away [06:46] kopete_emoticon_manager [06:46] what's changed in kopete? [06:46] that's a feature, that won't go in kubuntu.org packages [06:46] i add a great feature [06:46] oki [06:46] didn't know === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@207.73.139.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@207.73.139.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180072011.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:41] 'evening guys [07:43] Hiya [07:43] Should there be a 3.5.7 in the topic in #kubuntu? [07:43] na, should there? [07:43] maybe. [07:44] DaSkreech: yes [07:45] like that? [07:46] si === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:00] Riddell: ping === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4475f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:15] hi hsitter [08:15] ahoy captain :) === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:15] Riddell: what do you think about integrating about including suse's sysinfo kio slave in kubuntu? [08:16] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/tmp035.png [08:16] i was playing with packaging that once. [08:16] yes [08:16] kopete_emoticons_manager works! :) [08:16] thanks for your help Riddell [08:16] i was missing sudo make -f debian/rules buildprep [08:17] the problem with sysinfo is that there is no own source package for it, so I'd have to create an own tarball - now question is: shall I put the sources in bzr? [08:19] i extracted the source from the opensuse sourcepackage. [08:22] i'm all for RCSs in any way possible :) [08:22] RCS? [08:22] ah, right [08:22] sure, go ahead === glatzor__ [n=sebi@p57AEE847.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hsitter starts reading on how to use bzr === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:47] thx for the 3.5.7 packages === _buz [n=buz@84-72-54-173.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:48] <_buz> i'm experiencing weird behavior with kmail filters since upgrading to 3.5.7 [08:48] <_buz> the log says the filters matched and messages got moved, but they stay where they are [08:49] <_buz> manually moving works, so it cant be a fs / server issue === allee [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nuu [i=neuro@host50-149-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hsitter [n=me@N932P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:13] Riddell: Kubuntu Team as owner of the branches? [09:13] should be Kubuntu members...team is expired/not used === hsitter is not even member there :P [09:15] "substantial contribution" [09:15] now I wonder whether that applies [09:18] nixternal: you think it's necessary to create an upstream branch? [09:18] what are we talking about here? [09:19] the kio-sysinfo thing from suse [09:19] you can always create your own branch as well on LP [09:19] nixternal: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/tmp035.png [09:19] ahh [09:19] well [09:19] yes that is sweet [09:20] is that a SUSE box or did you port it over for Kubuntu already? [09:21] I noticed the 2.6.20-15 kernel [09:21] nixternal: not much of porting, it's using hal :) [09:21] true [09:21] just needs to be doctored by kwwii [09:21] yeah :) === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.181.228.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:21] hola jjesse [09:23] hiya nixternal [09:29] is there a reason why konqueror identifies as firefox and not safari, when talking to gmail? [09:29] letz pray for a working upload :D [09:29] .. is that default setting something we set in k-d-s? [09:29] fdoving: safari causes misbehaviour on usual google search [09:29] no right click IIRC [09:30] ok. [09:30] fdoving: it is because gmail will not accept konqi [09:30] nixternal: it does work for me with safari identification. [09:30] oh, don't know why it doesn't do with safari [09:30] there is a patch out for konqi to fix the issue [09:31] sure. [09:31] but changing the identification is easier. [09:31] .. or can work as a workaround. [09:31] the patch is very very small. [09:31] hsitter: if you want [09:33] hm [09:33] does bzr disallow branch pushes to groups one's not member of? [09:35] .. identifying as opera works too. [09:35] hsitter: i guess you don't have write access to groups you're not member of. [09:35] hm === hsitter is confused anyway :S [09:36] yeah, no permission [09:36] i'm confused too. i can't figure out what makes the contextmenus on rightlicking removable devices on the dekstop. [09:38] omg [09:38] there's not even a date for the next meeting [09:43] gah.. this media stuff is so broken. [09:43] refreshing the desktop with removable devices plugged in removes the "safely remove" option from the context menus. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:54] made a personal branch for now https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/kio-sysinfo/ubuntu [09:54] and I need to talk to the committee to find out why I'm not member by default ^_^ === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-153-43-232.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:10] hsitter: that's HW info? [10:10] DaSkreech: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/tmp035.png [10:10] Yeah Just looked at it [10:10] That's out sideof Kcontrol? [10:11] yep === DaSkreech still wants Kcontrol to show up hardware info in a redable manner [10:16] DaSkreech: whats wrong with /proc/diskstat ? [10:17] Yeah that lets me know what processor and Video card I have :-P [10:18] DaSkreech: it is hidden in those numbers, trust me === mschiff [n=mschiff@e176126091.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:21] heya! is there a problem with kitchensync in 3.5.7? [10:22] (because the package is missing in the repo...) === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-037-179.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:33] toma: Whats Your Network card specs based on that? [10:34] "-464" but that might be a bug [10:34] -464 B/s ? [10:34] Better start uploading fast :) [10:34] ;-) === ded [n=ded@lor34-1-82-240-239-109.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:37] But seriously you'd give your mom or child's school teacher instructions to read that to gain more information on the computer? [10:38] what's wrong with kinfocenter? [10:39] It's not bad but a little intimidating [10:39] lshw -html is easier to read [10:41] kinfocenter used to have nice little bars for showing free hdd space, but they seem to have disappeared [10:48] I think you mean memory === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEE847.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-154-11.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel