[12:14] <BWolf85> hola
[12:15] <BWolf85> whats ctcp received version request from tsdgeos
[12:16] <tsdgeos> BWolf85: sorry, i wanted to whois you and pressed wrong menu entry
[12:16] <tsdgeos> nothing serious
[12:16] <BWolf85> what is it
[12:16] <tsdgeos> night!
[12:16] <tsdgeos> BWolf85: use google ;-)
[12:16] <tsdgeos> or anyone will ask
[12:16] <tsdgeos> answer
[12:16] <tsdgeos> night2!
[12:19] <koriel> hi all, I followed some instructions about installing beryl in 7.04 with some ready script but after restarting X I get that kernel nvidia module has different version than X module...
[12:19] <Flatline> koriel:
[12:19] <Flatline> try to reconfigure your X server
[12:19] <Flatline> you know the command?
[12:19] <koriel> no
[12:19] <koriel> I'm in konsole mode now
[12:19] <Flatline> type:
[12:19] <Flatline> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:20] <blekos__> what is a zombie task?
[12:20] <Flatline> choose VESA for your driver, and everything else should be default.
[12:20] <Flatline> once that works then reinstall the latest nvidia driver with envy.
[12:20] <munzir> Hi, I am facing a problem similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/75725 and the first comment from Daniel is "Please use alsa-driver 1.0.14rc1." but I cannot find this version in Feisty
[12:21] <Flatline> if it doesnt work, its probably because the PCI location supplied to xserver is wrong
[12:21] <Flatline> type LSPCI to see the location of your nvidia card, then you can reconfigure X.
[12:22] <nuu> blekos_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[12:22] <koriel> FlatLine tried to reconfigure xorg but same thing
[12:22] <Flatline> can you past the whole error message?
[12:22] <Flatline> paste*
[12:23] <koriel> how I'm in konsole mode...I can tell you what is the kernel version and what's the module version
[12:24] <Flatline> one moment
[12:24] <koriel> Error: API mismatch
[12:25] <Flatline> koriel, perhaps removal of beryl, and a reconfigure of X would solve the problem,
[12:25] <Flatline> and then just use adept to retreive beryl rather than a script.
[12:26] <koriel> Flatline how can I remove beryl right now?
[12:27] <Flatline> hm
[12:27] <Flatline> im not completely sure on syntax. i think that the command is
[12:27] <Flatline> sudo apt-get purge beryl-manager
[12:27] <Flatline> but im not sure
[12:28] <dogatemycomputer> dominik_: you still there?
[12:29] <Flatline> brb restarting X
[12:29] <mario__> #/join ubuntu.pl
[12:30] <dominik_> dogatemycomputer: yes i'm still there :-)
[12:33] <dominik_> dogatemycomputer: ? :-)
[12:33] <BWolf85> where can i get beryl from
[12:33] <dogatemycomputer> dominik_: I think i'm going to download and try it out.  I've always wanted to replace my Tivo.  I just wish there was a way to output from my computer via Coax to a TV in another room.
[12:33] <Flatline> use the adept package manager
[12:34] <Flatline> bwolf85: first make sure your graphics card drivers are properly installed.
[12:34] <Flatline> after that use adept to get the following packages.
[12:34] <BWolf85> how could i check that flatline
[12:34] <Flatline> beryl-manager
[12:34] <Flatline> beryl-settings
[12:34] <Flatline> emerald-themes
[12:34] <dominik_> dogatemycomputer:  you know if it's working with fglrx.. as in the wiki something is mentioned with an other window manager cause of effects..
[12:35] <Flatline> using adept will allow you to download all dependancies too.
[12:35] <BWolf85> how do i check if my cards right
[12:35] <Flatline> BWolf85: what card do you have?
[12:35] <dogatemycomputer> dominik_: i've never tried it so i'm going to test it out this weekend.
[12:35] <BWolf85> let me find out
[12:35] <dogatemycomputer> dominik_: if i can't export to coax it won't do me much good but it still looks cool.
[12:36] <raijinsetsu> Anyone else having trouble with LVM2 on a fresh install of 7.04?
[12:36] <rik_> Hi, this might sound silly .. but how do i get the trashcan onto my DESKTOP ... i got in the taskbar but cant figure out how to put it on the desktop :/
[12:36] <Flatline> BWolf85: just type "lspci" in konsole
[12:36] <dominik_> dogatemycomputer: i've no idea what changed in the look from 1.0 to 1.1
[12:37] <BWolf85> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[12:37] <BWolf85> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[12:37] <Flatline> Rik_
[12:37] <sl00> Hi. How do I automount a device
[12:37] <Flatline> to get trash onto my desktop
[12:37] <sl00> I never played with udev before :(
[12:37] <rik_> yesyesyes
[12:37] <Flatline> you right click your desktop>new>location link
[12:38] <Flatline> in the name type:  "trash"
[12:38] <Flatline> and for the URL type "trash:/"
[12:38] <sl00> I created a new partition on /dev/sda4 but in /etc/fstab there are UUID= etc I guess that is udev stuff?
[12:38] <dogatemycomputer> dominik_: probably nothing..  improved stability?
[12:38] <Minataku> sl00: UUID is Universally Unique IDentifier
[12:38] <rik_> yeah ^^
[12:38] <rik_> thanks
[12:38] <Minataku> It's kinda like a serial number, and yes, it's udev related
[12:39] <sl00> Minataku: Yes I know that but what is the UUID for my new partition then?
[12:39] <Flatline> no problem rik_
[12:39] <Flatline> happy to help
[12:39] <Minataku> sl00: Not needed, just add the partition to the fstab without it
[12:39] <Minataku> It's udev _related_ not udev _required_
[12:40] <sl00> Minataku: Well hehe. I know that too. Would be nice to find out tho.
[12:40] <Minataku> I dunno how, heh
[12:40] <BWolf85> do those work
[12:40] <sl00> :)
[12:40] <Minataku> I might also be automount related, too
[12:40] <dominik_> dogatemycomputer: could be.. at least the package is realy big.. 2 cds..
[12:41] <Minataku> *It
[12:41] <Minataku> Aaargh, confused now
[12:41] <Minataku> XD
[12:41] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[12:41] <Flatline> BWolf85: Its highly unlikely that an integrated card will support beryl.
[12:41] <Kite_DH> guys i have a serious problem :(
[12:41] <Flatline> as far as i know anyway.
[12:41] <Kite_DH> let me tell ya
[12:41] <Flatline> care to elaborate Kite_DH? :P
[12:41] <Kite_DH> ._.
[12:41] <Minataku> Flatline: As long as it has a driver that supports 3D acceleration
[12:42] <ace_ace> can k3b import an existing cddb file while ripping ?
[12:42] <ace_ace> !k3b
[12:42] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[12:42] <Minataku> It may not be fast or good, but it's not highly unlikely to not support it at all
[12:42] <Kite_DH> so, i upgraded from edgy to feisty, now when i boot i get this http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1076 and it doesnt continue at all, i've been sitting in front of my screen with the same message for 3 hours now
[12:42] <sl00> Flatline: I played with a LiveCD before and it worked fine on my laptop with an Intel 915. It was Compiz tho IIRC.
[12:42] <Kite_DH> please help :(
[12:42] <Minataku> Woah
[12:42] <Minataku> That looks... bad
[12:43] <Minataku> Probably fixable, though
[12:43] <Kite_DH> Minataku, talking to me?
[12:43] <Minataku> Yes
[12:43] <Kite_DH> how to fix it then?
[12:43] <dogatemycomputer> dominik_: have you tested the first version already?  (v1.0?)
[12:43] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: Seems to hang at a disk check ?
[12:43] <Minataku> Fix those files init is complaining about
[12:43] <Minataku> ace_ace: It looks like it finishes that
[12:43] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, yes, after the fsck
[12:43] <Kite_DH> it hung up
[12:44] <Kite_DH> Minataku, how should i do that, i cant boot at all
[12:44] <dominik_> dogatemycomputer: no.. just have seen the video on youtube and the website
[12:44] <Minataku> I think init is spinning
[12:44] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: how did you upgrade - did you follow the instructions ?
[12:44] <ace_ace> !upgrade
[12:44] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:44] <Minataku> Kite_DH: I'm gonna bow out of helping you, because I don't know how
[12:44] <BWolf85> so will those work for beryl
[12:44] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: you can use the install cd as rescue cd and then you will have access to the harddisk.
[12:44] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, the guys from #kubuntu-de said to change everything with edgy to feisty in sources.list and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:44] <Minataku> Sorry, but I'd rather tell you that than give you random information
[12:45] <dogatemycomputer> dominik_: that's all I have..   I can try screwing around with it this weekend and letting you know.  I'm still a noob so if you have more experience than I do.. then you can try it and email me?   i'm sure there are some reviews out there?
[12:45] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: this is a wierd advice, I think you need a dist-upgrade somewhere inbetween,
[12:45] <BluesKaj> yes Kite_DH , it should work for most apps
[12:45] <ace_ace> Please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes and after you read it, tell me if you are confident the upgrade went well.
[12:46] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, well, its too late now, right?
[12:46] <dominik_> i've no experience with stuff of this kind.. just studing computer science ;-)
[12:46] <dominik_> dogatemycomputer:  i've no experience with stuff of this kind.. just studing computer science ;-)
[12:46] <Minataku> Kite_DH: You can probably fix it
[12:46] <Minataku> By booting in via the LiveCD then chrooting
[12:46] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: if you want my help. please follow my advice, I have other things to do.
[12:47] <Minataku> Which will put you into your installed system within that shell until you exit it
[12:47] <ace_ace> Kite_DH and it's not too late with linux, ever ! There is lots of ways to repair stuff.
[12:47] <Minataku> Yeah, this isn't Windows, where "Too late" is immediately after installing it.
[12:47] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i will read it now first
[12:47] <Kite_DH> Minataku, haha ^^
[12:47] <Minataku> :3
[12:47] <sayers> is the DVD any better than the cd?
[12:47] <Minataku> Holds more crap on-disc
[12:48] <Minataku> That's about it
[12:48] <Minataku> If you're installing, leave it
[12:48] <sayers> so not worth the 6 hour download
[12:48] <ace_ace> Minataku: LOL !
[12:48] <Minataku> If you're running off the CD, grab it
[12:48] <sayers> grab with my mighty mouse?
[12:48] <sayers> :P
[12:48] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, btw, i had Kubuntu Edgy Eft
[12:48] <Minataku> sayers: Depends on if you're just using it for LiveCD or if you're installing
[12:49] <dogatemycomputer> dominik_: well..  dogatemycomputer@gmail.com .. i can test it over the weekend and let you know what it looks like.  if you email me then i'll respond when I figure it out using a basic computer..
[12:49] <Minataku> If you're installing Kubuntu, then grab the CD
[12:49] <muaddib> anyone mind answering a couple questions about openssh?
[12:49] <Minataku> If you're gonna boot and run off the disc, then grab the DVD
[12:49] <Kite_DH> Minataku, i dont haev a CD / DVD
[12:49] <Minataku> Of course you've gotta have the proper hardware for both
[12:49] <Minataku> Kite_DH: I'm talking to sayers
[12:49] <Kite_DH> oh, sry
[12:49] <ace_ace> Kite_DH if you had a look at the docs, then you'll see that there is MUCH more to it then the advice you got from 'the guys at kubuntu-de'.
[12:49] <sayers> Minataku, no, I have to mess with a lot of Power Managment things and stuff
[12:49] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: make sure you tell them that some day !
[12:50] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i will, so i could've chosen the Update Manager, but what can i do now to boot Kubuntu again?
[12:50] <Minataku> sayers: Look. Answer this. What are you doing? A: Installing Kubuntu B: Trying out Kubuntu
[12:50] <Minataku> A or B, nothing else.
[12:50] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: do you have your /home on a different partition ?
[12:50] <Flatline> time to VMware my BSD install ;)
[12:50] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i really dont know, sorry
[12:50] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i dont think so tho
[12:50] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: do youhave important data on the hard disk ?
[12:50] <Kite_DH> yes i do
[12:51] <Minataku> ace_ace: I'm sure if he/she had a LiveCD, he/she could chroot after booting from it
[12:51] <Kite_DH> very much and very important data
[12:51] <ace_ace> I think your best bet is now to move all the data from you /home directory on a
[12:51] <Minataku> Which may get her to the point he/she can fix it
[12:51] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: external disk or CDROM
[12:51] <Minataku> At the very least you'll need a LiveCD anyway
[12:51] <ace_ace> Something you should have done BEFORE upgrading anyway.
[12:52] <Kite_DH> uh huh
[12:52] <Kite_DH> so, how to get a live CD?
[12:52] <Kite_DH> is there a small one?
[12:52] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: you think you can backup your data using the LiveCD (the install CD)?
[12:52] <Minataku> Download and burn or purchase
[12:52] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i dont think so..
[12:52] <ace_ace> Kite_HD: you don't have a live CD at all, laying around ?
[12:52] <sayers> Anyway I am going to install now
[12:52] <sayers> have fun
[12:52] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, no, sry
[12:52] <ace_ace> Kite_HD on what computer yu are working now ?
[12:53] <BWolf85> is there a program that u can burn iso's with?
[12:53] <Flatline> the live CD is the install disk Kite_DH
[12:53] <ace_ace> BWolf98: k3b
[12:53] <ace_ace> Flatline: she apt-upgraded !
[12:53] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i have a windows PC without internet (normally) but now i pluged it to the inet to ask here what to do
[12:53] <ace_ace> Flatline: Kite_DH apt-upgraded ! over the internet!
[12:53] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, and i have my other pc, with kubuntu on it
[12:53] <Flatline> indeed. but she must have originally installed with a disk to be able to upgrade from 6.10
[12:54] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: how fast can you download the install cd for Kubuntu 7.04 ?
[12:54] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i have a damn small linux but when i boot it it says "corrupt kernel on disk"
[12:54] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, 1 - 2 hours
[12:54] <ace_ace> Flatline: good point. Kite_DH do you have an older LiveCD/Install disk for ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[12:54] <Flatline> :)
[12:54] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i gave that one to my friend :(
[12:55] <Minataku> Well, go beat up your friend
[12:55] <Minataku> Or even better, ask for it back
[12:55] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: Well, if you want to have your data back, you need to be able to read the harddisk. This
[12:55] <Minataku> You should probably ask first.
[12:55] <ace_ace> is best done with a liveCD, preferably the newest Kubuntu 7.04
[12:55] <Kite_DH> i will download it
[12:55] <BWolf85> okay so where can i find out id beryl is for me
[12:55] <ace_ace> So, best to wiat 1-2 hrs (cook something nice or read a book :-)
[12:55] <ace_ace> wiat=wait
[12:55] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, its 1am :)
[12:55] <Flatline> i think there is a command to see if your card currently accepts 3d accelleration
[12:56] <Flatline> however I cant remember it. :(
[12:56] <ace_ace> and you burned the cd and then start it up
[12:56] <ace_ace> do NOT install it, just run the live CD.
[12:56] <ace_ace> Find a way to mount your harddisk, and burn the data to cd.
[12:56] <ace_ace> Check the data on the cd !!
[12:56] <ace_ace> Then install feisty from scratch on the Kubunmtu machine
[12:57] <ace_ace> then use the cd to get your data back.
[12:57] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i'll try DamnSmallLinux for a minute again, wait
[12:57] <Flatline> ace_ace: will the machine not even boot into CLI? perhaps if thats possible, a NC transfer?
[12:57] <ace_ace> Next time, make sure you make a 10-12 GB partition for / and make another larger partition for /home so if you want to do a system reinstall
[12:57] <ace_ace> you don't worry about your data !!!
[12:58] <BWolf85> wow it takes forever to burn a cd in kubuntu
[12:58] <Flatline> BWolf85: it's only as fast as your hardware :P
[12:58] <ace_ace> BWold85: forever? that's too long, don't you agree ?
[12:58] <ace_ace> BWolf85: and how would you detect that ?
[12:58] <ace_ace> BWolf85: seeing that you're a mere mortal :-)
[12:59] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, it says "Invalid or corrupt kernel image" then "boot:                  "
[12:59] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, seems not to work
[12:59] <Flatline> Kite_DH- this is DSL we are talking about now?
[12:59] <Kite_DH> Flatline, yes
[12:59] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: if you want to use dsl, just download a dsl with your winblows machine
[12:59] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, i did that 1 hours ago, then i burned it on cd-rw
[01:00] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, when i boot it says the stuff above
[01:00] <Flatline> Burn it again at a slower speed.
[01:00] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: but there seems to be something wrong with it !
[01:00] <hendaus> helpers, how can i get amsn amule and skype, somebody help me please!
[01:00] <Flatline> ISO's are reccomended to be burnt at around 4x.
[01:00] <ace_ace> !skype
[01:00] <michael__> oaky who uses vi?
[01:00] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:00] <Kite_DH> Flatline, oh
[01:00] <michael__> how do i stop vi from adding text
[01:00] <michael__> i want to get out of the add charachter mode
[01:00] <michael__> what button do i pus
[01:00] <michael__> h
[01:00] <ace_ace> michael_: press ESC
[01:00] <Flatline> michael: i think ":Q"
[01:00] <michael__> ah thx
[01:00] <Flatline> ah nvm ;)
[01:01] <ace_ace> Flatline, Michael, it's :q not :Q to quit.
[01:01] <Zeelot> hellooooo
[01:01] <Flatline> ace: thankyou for clarification
[01:01] <ace_ace> Flatline: yeah vi... you can really get lost in there...
[01:01] <Flatline> zeelot: hello.
[01:01] <Zeelot> ^_^
[01:02] <rocky> salut
[01:02] <ace_ace> k3b anyone ?
[01:02] <ace_ace> I need to rip a cd, but I have the cddb info in a seperate file...
[01:02] <Flatline> rocky: vous parle francais?
[01:02] <rocky> oUi je parle francais
[01:02] <Flatline> rocky: et mois, un petit-peut.
[01:03] <rocky> ok moi toujours :P
[01:03] <Flatline> rocky: mais, parles en anglais dans IRC sil-vous-plait.
[01:03] <ace_ace> Kite_DH sorry, i gotta go.
[01:03] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, okay
[01:03] <rocky> ok np
[01:03] <raijinsetsu> Anyone else do a fresh install of 7.04 and have problems with LVM?
[01:03] <Flatline> Kite_DH: i will still be here to help where i can.
[01:03] <Hirvinen> !fr rocky
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr rocky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <Kite_DH> Flatline, should i download Kubuntu 7.04 Desktop CD or Alternate install CD?
[01:03] <Hirvinen> Grrt.
[01:03] <Hirvinen> !fr | rocky
[01:03] <ubotu> rocky: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:03] <rocky> Yeah im Fr ?
[01:04] <Flatline> kite_DH: the desktop CD.
[01:05] <Flatline> kite: the alternate is for problems with the VESA driver, and supports a CLI install option.
[01:05] <Kite_DH> Flatline, ok
[01:05] <Kite_DH> Flatline, im gonna be AFK in the time it DLs the *.iso
[01:06] <Flatline> Kite_DH: i may have to go before you get back.
[01:06] <Kite_DH> Flatline, then tell me what to do now
[01:06] <Flatline> are you sure about the process you need to complete?
[01:06] <Kite_DH> Flatline, when the  iso is burned at lowest speed, then...
[01:06] <Flatline> Kite_DH: you download the *.iso, burn it to a CD.
[01:07] <Flatline> at 4x speed.
[01:07] <Kite_DH> Flatline, yes
[01:07] <Kite_DH> ok
[01:07] <Flatline> once that is done, boot into the live CD but DONT install.
[01:07] <Kite_DH> ok
[01:07] <Flatline> launch K3B and burn all your important data to disk
[01:07] <Kite_DH> ok
[01:07] <Flatline> then CHECK that it has burnt correctly.
[01:08] <Kite_DH> k
[01:08] <Flatline> then you may proceed to install 7.04
[01:08] <Flatline> make 10-12GB for your root partition ("/")
[01:08] <Kite_DH> but everything will be gone then, right?
[01:08] <Flatline> and the rest for your /home partition
[01:08] <raijinsetsu> Anyone else having trouble with LVM on the 7.04 install?
[01:08] <Flatline> then when the installer is finished, use the CD you burnt (with all the data on) and transfer your files back.
[01:09] <Flatline> raijinsetsu, sorry, no, I have no knowledge in LVM
[01:09] <Kite_DH> Flatline, all my files will be gone??
[01:09] <Flatline> Kite_DH,  are you clear on what you need to do?
[01:09] <Kite_DH> Flatline, is there no other way??
[01:10] <Rocky> yeah
[01:10] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: mount your harddisk using the Live CD and burn a CD from your data !
[01:10] <Flatline> Kite_DH, no, Use the live CD to launch K3B. that way you can burn your data onto a CD before doing the re-install
[01:10] <ace_ace> Yeah, flatline is right!
[01:10] <hendaus> ace_ace:  thanx, but amsn and amule also, by the way kaffaine cannot open a video clip coz it needs plugin
[01:10] <Flatline> ace_ace, i think i just hit a fatal flaw in our plan
[01:10] <Kite_DH> but thats a way more GB than i have DVDs
[01:10] <Kite_DH> :(
[01:10] <Kite_DH> is there no way to fix this http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1076
[01:11] <Kite_DH> so it boots properly the system i have installed now
[01:11] <Flatline> ace_ace, he wont be able to open his CD tray to burn a CD if he is using a combi-drive
[01:11] <Flatline> ace_ace, because the live CD wont let him.
[01:11] <ace_ace> Flatline: yeah, maybe use an external drive then
[01:11] <Kite_DH> i dont have that ace_ace
[01:11] <Flatline> Kite_DH, a USB key will suffice.
[01:12] <ace_ace> Flatline, Kite_DH: other plan: take an old disk and build it in to your PC
[01:12] <ace_ace> and use your current disk as second disk and install Kubuntu on the old disk
[01:12] <Kite_DH> wha?
[01:12] <Flatline> ace_ace, Perhaps using the live disk, one can transfer files via FTP or some other protocol?
[01:12] <ace_ace> Kite_DH: I *know* I can make it work, but not via chat... I have to see what I can do and have my hands on your keyboard.
[01:12] <Flatline> time consuming, but perhaps.
[01:12] <ace_ace> so, *sorry*
[01:12] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, if i boot from the liveCD, can i get access to my HD?
[01:13] <Flatline> Kite_DH, yes. you can mount your hard drive.
[01:13] <ace_ace> bye !
[01:13] <Kite_DH> Flatline, so, if i fix the files from the error message http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1076
[01:13] <Kite_DH> ace_ace, byebye
[01:13] <Kite_DH> Flatline, will i be able to boot then?
[01:13] <Flatline> Kite_DH, perhaps, however it may go deeper than the init.
[01:14] <naegling23> Im having a kwin problem, when I hit kwin --replace, I get errors, I can only toggle win the beryl-manager
[01:14] <Flatline> Kite_DH, I would still reccomend a re0install.
[01:14] <Kite_DH> Flatline, but my precious files :(
[01:15] <Flatline> Kite_DH, follow my instructions, use the live disk, and K3B to burn your files to a CD/DVD
[01:15] <Kite_DH> Flatline, but its 1am and i dont have enough empty DVDs
[01:15] <Kite_DH> Flatline, and how can i burn if the liveCD wont let me open the cd drive?
[01:16] <Flatline> Kite_DH, use a USB pen instead of a CD then
[01:16] <Kite_DH> Flatline, my usb stick has only 256mb :(
[01:16] <Flatline> Kite_DH, then its going to take a little while isnt it? :)
[01:16] <Kite_DH> Flatline, yea...
[01:17] <Kite_DH> Flatline, hmm..can we try to fix the files first??
[01:17] <hendaus> ace_ace:  can u help me friend
[01:17] <Flatline> Kite_DH, We could, but I dont have enough knowledge of linux to do so.
[01:17] <Flatline> I'm only a newbie myself.
[01:17] <Kite_DH> Flatline, hmm..so we need ace_ace ^^ but hes gone
[01:17] <Flatline> hendaus, ace_ace has left. Can I help?
[01:18] <Kite_DH> Flatline, is it possible to run the upgrade from liveCD?
[01:18] <Kite_DH> Flatline, so my files dont get lost
[01:19] <BWolf85> wow it said it wrote successfully but didnt put nething on the disc
[01:19] <Flatline> Kite_DH, No, as it runs entirely in memory. and a CD is not writeable after its already been burnt
[01:19] <Kite_DH> hmm
[01:19] <Flatline> BWolf85, you have something wrong in your settings then
[01:19] <BWolf85> like what
[01:20] <Flatline> BWolf85, perhaps you need to state that K3B must close the disk.
[01:21] <almostkorean> how do i mount my external hard drive? i can never find that article
[01:21] <Kite_DH> Flatline, can i transfer my files over LAN to this pc??
[01:21] <Flatline> Kite_DH, Possibly. im not sure exactly how to do this, but i think its possible.
[01:22] <Kite_DH> Flatline, i'll try my best
[01:22] <Flatline> perhaps once you figure it out, you could email me and let me know?
[01:22] <Kite_DH> Flatline, i can
[01:22] <Flatline> greetings mike anderson :)
[01:23] <Flatline> Everyone: I probably should go to bed now. I have exams in the morning.
[01:23] <BWolf85> exams are over rated ;-)
[01:24] <allergen> hi
[01:24] <Flatline> agreed. but they are something that we all have to suffer :)
[01:24] <Flatline> welcome allergen
[01:24] <allergen> thx
[01:24] <Flatline> goodnight Kite_DH , best of luck
[01:25] <Kite_DH> Flatline, thx
[01:25] <Flatline> Kite_DH, if you get stuck, you can find me on http://kubuntuforums.com     my username is "f1rem0th"
[01:25] <Kite_DH> okay
[01:25] <allergen> i came here tio havea list of plugin to be sure to read evrything
[01:27] <michael__> hmm
[01:27] <michael__> can someone take a llook at this apt error im getting
[01:27] <michael__> http://pastebin.ca/501281
[01:27] <dogatemycomputer> has anyone ever setup 3 monitors with linux?  I have a dual monitor card and an on-board video card that I could probably enable..  would be interesting to see all three monitors working at the same time.
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> dogatemycomputer: not sure if that is possible... maybe though.
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> michael__: its a conflicting package errir
[01:30] <dogatemycomputer> nosrednaekim: I just wouldn't look forward to the xorg.conf file that I would need to write.. plus..  isn't there a desktop size limit for xorg?
[01:30] <michael__> nosrednaekim, how can i stop libsm6 from triny to install
[01:30] <dogatemycomputer> ls /etc/X11/
[01:30] <dogatemycomputer> whereis X11
[01:30] <dogatemycomputer> lol
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:31] <dogatemycomputer> I'm just trying to figure out if there is a command to tell me what release of X11 i'm running.
[01:31] <dogatemycomputer> X11R6 shows up but i'm confident i'm running 7.2..
[01:31] <dogatemycomputer> not 6..
[01:32] <michael__> nosrednaekim, here is my error from apt-get upgrade http://pastebin.ca/501289
[01:32] <michael__> how can i stop it from trying to install libsm6 o.0
[01:34] <bhagman88> helloo
[01:35] <bhagman88> i was wondering if someone could help me with an installation problem
[01:37] <hydan> does anyone in here use xchat?
[01:37] <hydan> i've got a quick question
[01:37] <hydan> more like a favor to ask of you, i'll go ahead and ask it.
[01:37] <hydan> if you're using xchat, will you look to see where your sound files are located?
[01:38] <hydan> i'm not being notified of messages.
[01:41] <michael__> hmm, now i get this apt error http://pastebin.ca/501307
[01:42] <brian_> my konqueror keeps switching back to the last page i was on :( its impossible to browse net
[01:44] <Minataku> That explains the lag
[01:44] <brian_> AGH!
[01:46] <brian_> why does my konqueror keep going to the previous page when i scroll down?
[01:49] <brian_> wow whatd going on
[01:49] <mike__> Can someone help me install the latest version of Java so i can install Frostwire
[01:53] <pete> who plays online poker here? i cant get partypoker or fulltilt to work on my lappy...
[01:56] <BenWhitey> hey
[01:56] <BenWhitey> i'm having trouble setting up wifi
[01:56] <hendaus> can anyone give me the upgrade site dapper to edgy? thanx
[01:56] <evfreshman2025> can someone help me install the latest version of Java so i can get Frostwire?
[01:57] <BenWhitey> can someone help me with wifi?
[02:04] <BenWhitey> anyone here?
[02:04] <BenWhitey> i can't find anything on the forums
[02:04] <dimebag> !codecs
[02:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:04] <BenWhitey> i can't get my wifi to work in kubuntu
[02:05] <BenWhitey> i'm trying to get it to work on my tablet
[02:06] <brian_> benwhitey what card do u have
[02:06] <BenWhitey> hmm
[02:06] <BenWhitey> AR5212
[02:07] <BenWhitey> its an Atheros
[02:08] <BenWhitey> i think i'm having issues configuring it or something
[02:08] <hendaus> can anyone give me the upgrade site dapper to edgy? thanx
[02:09] <brian_> hold on ben in trying to find on a site some info that might help
[02:09] <brian_> my browser doesnt like me
[02:09] <BenWhitey> lol
[02:09] <BenWhitey> ok
[02:09] <BenWhitey> maybe you should try IE
[02:09] <BenWhitey> lol
[02:09] <brian_> im in kde
[02:09] <BenWhitey> i presumed you were
[02:09] <BenWhitey> it was a joke
[02:09] <BenWhitey> lol
[02:10] <imagine> BenWhitey: tss use wine + ie
[02:10] <BenWhitey> lol
[02:10] <hendaus> brian_: i have dapper kubuntu , i need to upgrade to edgy, can u help me thanx
[02:11] <imagine> hendaus: apt-get ?
[02:11] <hendaus> imagine:  yes
[02:12] <brian_> grrr
[02:12] <hendaus> imagine:  i am using kubuntu dapper, there is an update edgy right?
[02:12] <imagine> think so
[02:13] <BenWhitey> and what makes it worse, is that i have alergies
[02:13] <hendaus> ok, do u know how to upgrade?
[02:13] <brian_> ben: did u use ndiswrapper
[02:13] <BenWhitey> no
[02:13] <brian_> !wifi | benwhitey
[02:13] <ubotu> benwhitey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:14] <BenWhitey> my card isn't there
[02:14] <BenWhitey> its not on the "supported" list
[02:15] <brian_> !ndiswrapper
[02:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:15] <brian_> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/
[02:15] <brian_> try this
[02:16] <brian_> what i used to get mine working. doesnt seem that anyone has it figure out 100% for your card. so, to me, you seem in a brave new workd
[02:16] <BenWhitey> does it matter that my Atheros card isn't on teh list
[02:16] <BenWhitey> lol
[02:16] <jaevel> can someone point me in the right direction for re-compiling my kernel so i can install the correct driver (9631) for the nvidia driver?
[02:16] <BenWhitey> uh oh, i'm new to linux
[02:16] <brian_> try install ndiswrapper
[02:17] <BenWhitey> i think the driver is working
[02:17] <BenWhitey> but i'm not sure
[02:17] <BenWhitey> i think i just can't configure it
[02:17] <BenWhitey> ive tried all the help stuff
[02:18] <BenWhitey> or at least i think i did
[02:18] <BenWhitey> i tried what i could
[02:18] <brian_> so what is wrong? is your wifi light on?
[02:18] <brian_> it just wont connect?
[02:18] <BenWhitey> i think i can't make it connect
[02:18] <BenWhitey> like i type iwconfig
[02:18] <BenWhitey> and it lists some stuff
[02:18] <BenWhitey> "link quality 16/94"
[02:18] <brian_> whats its say
[02:19] <BenWhitey> among other things
[02:19] <BenWhitey> IEEE 802.11g ESSID "linksys" Nickname ""
[02:19] <BenWhitey> Mode: managed Frequency 2.412 GHz Access Point Not-associated
[02:20] <brian_> whats is say when you try to open up a browser?
[02:20] <BenWhitey> Bit Rate 1Mb/s Tx-Power 8dBm Sensitivy=0/3
[02:20] <BenWhitey> "Cannot connect" or w/e
[02:20] <BenWhitey> Link Quality=16/94 Signal level =-82 dBm  Noise level =-98dBm
[02:21] <BenWhitey> Rx invalid iwid:1332 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
[02:21] <brian_> seems to me that the card is working
[02:21] <BenWhitey> Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc: 0 missed beacon: 0
[02:21] <BenWhitey> yeah
[02:21] <BenWhitey> but i can't make it con nect
[02:21] <brian_> do u have KWifiManager
[02:21] <BenWhitey> i cant ping my router
[02:22] <BenWhitey> hm
[02:22] <BenWhitey> i don't think so
[02:22] <BenWhitey> let me check
[02:22] <brian_> what i had to download to get mine to connect in kubuntu
[02:22] <intelikey> a case fan will work as a cpu fan.   i have just proved it.
[02:23] <hitmanWilly> :)
[02:23] <BenWhitey> hmm
[02:23] <BenWhitey> well
[02:23] <BenWhitey> hmm
[02:23] <hendaus> !upgrade edgy
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgrade edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: is it running any hotter than it used to?
[02:23] <hendaus> !upgrade
[02:23] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:23] <BenWhitey> what about setting my IP and stuff thru console?
[02:24] <intelikey> hitmanWilly not 1 bit
[02:24] <hitmanWilly> hmm, well there ya go
[02:24] <BenWhitey> brian: can i PM you?
[02:24] <BenWhitey> or should we just do this here
[02:25] <brian_> yah pm me doesnt matter
[02:25] <brian_> i have aim and yahoo as well if it helps
[02:26] <BenWhitey> lol
[02:26] <BenWhitey> naw i don't need those
[02:26] <brian_> i mean to contact me is all
[02:26] <BenWhitey> yeah
[02:26] <BenWhitey> i know
[02:26] <brian_> try to install kwifimanager
[02:27] <BenWhitey> that would invovle downloaidng it here, burning it to a cd
[02:27] <BenWhitey> :(
[02:27] <brian_> what do u mean? why would u need to burn it to a cfd
[02:27] <BenWhitey> cdf?
[02:27] <brian_> cd
[02:27] <brian_> typo sorry
[02:27] <BenWhitey> i'm on windows
[02:27] <hendaus> brian_:  sorry but i have a question, if i want to upgrade from dapper to edgy, can u give me the site please
[02:27] <BenWhitey> here
[02:27] <brian_> ah
[02:28] <BenWhitey> my laptop is next to me
[02:28] <BenWhitey> and my desktop is wireless
[02:28] <brian_> ben do u not have a connection to the net over a ethernet cable to the laptop
[02:28] <brian_> because u will need it
[02:28] <BenWhitey> damn it
[02:28] <BenWhitey> ok
[02:28] <BenWhitey> hold up
[02:28] <brian_> i mean not completely nessicary but easier till u get it connected
[02:28] <BenWhitey> well
[02:29] <BenWhitey> ok
[02:29] <BenWhitey> actually, i just realized i'm on LAN with my desktop, i'll switch it to wifi and then use the ethernet on my laptop
[02:29] <BenWhitey> i'll be back in a few
[02:29] <brian_> hednaus ill see what i can find.. ben that works
[02:29] <BenWhitey> hopefully on my laptop
[02:29] <hendaus> brian_:  can u answer my question please, if there is no noisy for you, thanx
[02:30] <brian_> no noisy? ill see what i can come up with hendaus
[02:30] <hendaus> lool ok thank u :)
[02:31] <hydan> i'm looking at the instructions on the site for getting kde4 which say to install kde4base-dev. what's the difference between kde4base-dev and kde4base?
[02:31] <brian_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:31] <brian_> see if that helps you hendaus
[02:31] <intelikey> hendaus  you change all "dapper"  to "edgy" in your  /etc/apt/sources.list    then  run this.   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:32] <hitmanWilly> hydan: -dev pkg's usually have the original source and development libs
[02:32] <BenWhitey> now on wireless on desktop
[02:32] <brian_> ok
[02:32] <hendaus> intelikey:  thank u, i try
[02:32] <brian_> go to adept and seach for kwifi
[02:32] <hydan> hitmanWilly: so unless i'm a developer, i don't need those files, correc?
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> hydan: not usually
[02:33] <Arwen> hydan, nope
[02:33] <Arwen> well, if you need to compile anything from source, you'll need them
[02:33] <hydan> hitmanWilly, Arwen: i'm not a developer yet, but i'd like to be one day :)
[02:33] <jaevel> i downloaded the nvidia driver from the website, and it said that the no kernel can be found would i like to re-compile the kernel to work with the driver and it said i need the source? can someone tell me what source i need to install in order for this to work?
[02:33] <hydan> i'm just starting to learn python
[02:34] <ben_> yo
[02:34] <hydan> so i think i'll stick with the basics right now.
[02:34] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: waht's wrong with the driver in the repos?
[02:34] <brian_> ben_ are u benwhitey
[02:34] <jaevel> i install it and i cannot get it to work?
[02:34] <ben_> i am
[02:34] <Arwen> hydan, well, the other guy didn't do a terribly good explanation - the *-dev packages contain the source files you need to develop/compile a program that uses that particular library
[02:34] <ben_> oops, hitmanwilly, i just pm
[02:34] <jaevel> i made the normal changes to xorg.conf and it just dies
[02:34] <ben_> d you by accident
[02:35] <hitmanWilly> ben_: you did? didn't pop up...
[02:35] <Arwen> so, if you wanted to develop a firefox plugin, you'd need firefox-dev. If you need to build a kernel module, you'd need linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:35] <Arwen> etc etc
[02:35] <ben_> oh, ok cool i didn't mean go :)
[02:35] <hendaus> intelikey:  ok it is upgrading now, after done what can i do
[02:35] <brian_> what do u men hendaus
[02:35] <intelikey> lib-cleaner.sh   >>>  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36631
[02:36] <intelikey> hendaus when it is finished (if it doesn't error out) it is upgraded.  you just reboot into the new system.
[02:36] <hendaus> brian_:  intelikey gave me how to upgrade to edgy,and it is upgrading now
[02:36] <brian_> okay my link does the same
[02:36] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: which version of the pkg are you grabbing?
[02:36] <Arwen> intelikey, or, you could just install deborphan and do it yourself...
[02:36] <hendaus> intelikey:  ok after done can i upgrade to fiesty?
[02:37] <intelikey> hendaus supposedly  yes
[02:37] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: there's three different ones...
[02:37] <ben_> brian: it says that it is contained in the main KDE distribution
[02:37] <hendaus> brian_:  thanx u too :)
[02:37] <intelikey> Arwen recursively   :)
[02:38] <Arwen> lol
[02:38] <brian_> what do u mean ben
[02:38] <jaevel> hitmanWilly, i usually install nvidia-glx version 9631 install it and fix the xorg.conf and it normally works
[02:38] <hendaus> intelikey: if i want to upgrade to fiesty, so i have to replace edgy to fiesty from sources.list?
[02:38] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: nvidia-glx (96xx series) nvidia-glx-new (97xx), and nvidia-glx-legacy (older)
[02:38] <ben_> http://kwifimanager.sourceforge.net/html/download.html
[02:39] <jaevel> hitmanWilly, i installed and still have installed nvidia-glx (96xx)
[02:39] <brian_> ben i have to use kwifimanager and wireless assiant to connect with kubuntu
[02:39] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: also, you need the linux headers pkg as well as the linux-restricted-modules packages
[02:39] <intelikey> hendaus no.  there is a script for that.   it should notify you that feisty is ready for you system, and offer to upgrade
[02:39] <hendaus> brian_:  i open a video clip and kaffeine cannot open it , it needs a plugin and no sound
[02:40] <hendaus> intelikey:  ah ok :)
[02:40] <hendaus> intelikey:  thanx
[02:40] <ben_> brian: hold up i think i'm getting it
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: those missing is probably why the vanilla driver from nvidia.com isn't installing
[02:40] <hendaus> intelikey:  i got an error
[02:40] <ben_> brian: word, i
[02:41] <jaevel> hitmanWilly, i have installed linux-restricted-modules version 2.6.20
[02:41] <ben_> 'm getting it (i'm also still getting used to this laptop keyboard
[02:41] <intelikey> hendaus good luck with it,  that trip is not always plesent.  and some find it easier to dl the fiesty iso and install fresh
[02:41] <jaevel> hitmanWilly, but not the headers
[02:41] <intelikey> hendaus oh.   what error ?
[02:41] <jaevel> hitmanWilly, i do not see the headers in the list
[02:41] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: you have to have the headers to compile kernel modules
[02:41] <hendaus> intelikey:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21913/
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:42] <intelikey> looking
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: apt-get that and it will install them
[02:42] <ben_> briran: ok, let me try unnplugging my LAN
[02:43] <intelikey> hendaus ok you need to just comment out the line about the cdrom in the  /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:43] <j1tters> hey guys. have a question.  brand new install of fiesty. everything works. even dual monitor. but for some reason a process called whiptail is sitting at 99% proc usage? any idea why ?
[02:43] <hendaus> intelikey:  what can i do?
[02:43] <brian_> ben you need to connect to the router first
[02:43] <jaevel> hitmanWilly, gonna try now...
[02:43] <intelikey> hendaus just comment out the line about the cdrom in the  /etc/apt/sources.list     put  #  as first char of the line
[02:44] <hendaus> intelikey:  ok
[02:44] <sdf__> what is the difference between kubuntu alternate and kubuntu desktop??
[02:44] <intelikey> hendaus then re-run the command.
[02:44] <intelikey> sdf__ text mode installer
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> sdf__: the alternate cd is a more advanced text mode installer only
[02:44] <hendaus> intelikey:  ok thanx
[02:45] <hitmanWilly> sdf__: ie not a live cd
[02:45] <intelikey> ?
[02:45] <hendaus> intelikey:  i open a video clip with kaffaine and doesnot have a sound, why, and others needs plugin
[02:46] <Fivetwentysix> Whenever I use my keyboard, my mouse stops working, how do I fix this?
[02:46] <ben_> didn't work
[02:46] <LjL> intelikey: attacks you during the sleep and eats you
[02:46] <jaevel> hitmanWilly, ok, i have installed the headers, it should compile now?
[02:46] <intelikey> hendaus after the upgrade.
[02:46] <ben_> brian: i think that i need to manually set the channel or something of the wifi card because it kept on changing between 2 and 5 when the network is on 1
[02:47] <hendaus> intelikey: ok :)
[02:47] <sdf__> hitwanwilly   what is the best? what is cd that you advise??
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: actually, try reconfiguring nvidia-glx
[02:47] <intelikey> hendaus doesn't matter what that system does if you will not be using it anymore in only a few hours.
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> sdf__: depends on what you want to do
[02:47] <Fivetwentysix> Anyone got a solution for me?
[02:47] <intelikey> and yes two upgrades will take a few hours
[02:48] <hendaus> intelikey:  few hours????????? how many time it needs upgrading?
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> sdf__: the live cd just installs the default system while the alt cd is a more traditional linux install process
[02:48] <jaevel> hitmanWilly, just use the nvidia-xconfig enable thing?
[02:48] <intelikey> hendaus you specified two.
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: sudo dpkg --reconfigure nvidia-glx
[02:48] <intelikey> one to edgy one to feisty
[02:49] <hendaus> intelikey:  my connection adsl 300kb/s
[02:49] <hitmanWilly> jaevel: then run through the process like you just installed it
[02:49] <ben_> mine is 640 down and 200 up :)
[02:49] <intelikey> ok several hours then.
[02:49] <hendaus> intelikey:  lol so i have to go outside until finishing :)
[02:50] <ben_> brian: can you help me with kwifimanager?
[02:50] <hendaus> brb...
[02:51] <ben_> it says "No access point"
[02:51] <sdf__> hitmanwilly what is the best cd from your opinion?
[02:52] <Fivetwentysix> Whenever I use my keyboard, my mouse stops working, how do I fix this?
[02:52] <Fivetwentysix> It's totally annoying how can i fix this?
[02:52] <Fivetwentysix> Like my mouse just stutters
[02:53] <BloodyTux> ello everyone
[02:53] <Aqualyt> Question: in KTorrent, is it possible to have it not ask me which files to save by default? and can anyone suggest another bittorrent client to check out (im new to linux)
[02:54] <ben_> stupid spammers, make it so i can't pm brian
[02:54] <BloodyTux> hmmmmm
[02:54] <BloodyTux> Azureus
[02:54] <BloodyTux> or however youy spell it. search for torrent in synaptic
[02:54] <BloodyTux> or adept
[02:54] <Aqualyt> theres azureus for linux? great, thats all i needed to know :)
[02:54] <Aqualyt> thanks
[02:55] <BloodyTux> :)
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> there's azureus for every platform that supports java...
[02:55] <BloodyTux> hey Dai
[02:55] <trenton1> here's a q:     I've tried installing Kubuntu 7.04 a few times now. I've checked the cd for errors, and checked the md5sum a few times. Everything seems A-OK. But it will not boot correctly when installed. I haven't had a problem with Ubuntu 7.04 installing, so what could it be? The setup is hda1 as Vista, hda2 as swap, and hda3 as /
[02:56] <BloodyTux> hmmmm
[02:56] <BloodyTux> i can't help you, sorry. I've been having installation problems myself... i'm using win2k since i can't install any distro right now for some reason
[02:57] <_ben_> hmm
[02:57] <trenton1> Well, I'm installing yet again with a different dvd drive, thinking it might be my drive...hopefully it works
[02:57] <BloodyTux> yea
[02:58] <_ben_> where did brian go?
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought about going back to windows
[02:58] <BloodyTux> ???
[02:58] <BloodyTux> why?
[02:58] <BloodyTux> i'm hating this ****
[02:58] <BloodyTux> :(
[02:58] <trenton1> I guess if it doesn't work, I'll be back in here. Gotta reboot :|
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> and then i realized what i was thinking, and promptly hit myself in the head.
[02:59] <BloodyTux> YAY!
[03:00] <Daisuke_Ido> what seems to be the problem?
[03:00] <Pollywog> is there a way to make Konqueror recognize xmpp: links?  atm it acts as though they are mailto: links
[03:00] <benwhitey> damn it, all the nicks are taken
[03:00] <BloodyTux> idk it keeps stopping at 6% when it says Please Wait...
[03:00] <BloodyTux> i waited 4 DAMN hours
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> tried other versions?
[03:01] <BloodyTux> sorry for caps. really touchy on this subject
[03:01] <Fivetwentysix> Whenever I use my keyboard, my mouse stops working, how do I fix this?
[03:01] <BloodyTux> yea, gentoo can't extract 1 package. ubuntu won't work on this machine, kanotix won't work, mepis stalls
[03:01] <BloodyTux> :(
[03:01] <Fivetwentysix> Please someone answer, im so desperate for a solution.
[03:01] <BloodyTux> 526???
[03:01] <BloodyTux> wtf?
[03:02] <Fivetwentysix> ?
[03:02] <Pollywog> BloodyTux: did you try the alternate install CD?
[03:02] <BloodyTux> thats what i'm using since i only have 128mb of ram...
[03:02] <Pollywog> k
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Pollywog: if he's having stalling problems on every distro he's tried...
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> !
[03:02] <BloodyTux> it worked before on my other older machine with 128
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> tried another drive?
[03:02] <Fivetwentysix> err 128 is like below standard man
[03:03] <BloodyTux> no, my parents got stuck on windows again so i can't wipe this drive
[03:03] <Pollywog> BloodyTux: I even installed Debian on an old Thinkpad when nothing else installed
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> Fivetwentysix: we're not all rich
[03:03] <Pollywog> tried Debian?
[03:03] <BloodyTux> i'm stuck with a useless 8gb
[03:03] <BloodyTux> yes i have
[03:03] <Pollywog> paid?
[03:03] <Fivetwentysix> Diasuke_Ido got a answer to my solution?
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> but to be fair, 128 IS a little outdated...  by a little i mean a whole lot
[03:04] <BloodyTux> yea i know
[03:04] <BloodyTux> 2k runs like ****
[03:04] <Fivetwentysix> i mean my question
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> not sure why keyboard would be affecting mouse
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> are both usb or ps/2?
[03:04] <Fivetwentysix> It stutters my mouse movement when i type.
[03:04] <BloodyTux> ps/2 is for squares!
[03:04] <BloodyTux> :)
[03:04] <Fivetwentysix> oh could that be it?
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: and triangles and circles and x'es
[03:05] <Fivetwentysix> because it's not a usb keyboard.
[03:05] <BloodyTux> ... ok then...
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: PS2.
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> playstation 2
[03:05] <Fivetwentysix> but my mouse is usb
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> OKAY, anyway, back to the situation at hand
[03:05] <Pollywog> should I get a USB kb so I am not considered a [ ]  ?
[03:05] <BloodyTux> ??? huh??? where did ps2 come into play?
[03:05] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: :D
[03:05] <BloodyTux> anyways
[03:05] <BloodyTux> yep
[03:06] <BloodyTux> you=[] 
[03:06] <Fivetwentysix> Daisuke_Ido do i have to change my keyboard?
[03:06] <BloodyTux> you+USB= 8)
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> how is your mouse detected in x?
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> you shouldn't have to change your keyboard, no
[03:06] <BloodyTux> :)
[03:06] <Fivetwentysix> I never configured my mouse
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> or your mouse
[03:06] <Fivetwentysix> It worked right out of the box
[03:06] <Fivetwentysix> However my back button on it doesn't work
[03:06] <Fivetwentysix> It's a logitech g7
[03:07] <BloodyTux> logitech=/_\
[03:07] <BloodyTux> dell=O
[03:07] <BloodyTux> microsoft=[] 
[03:08] <benwhitey> ok, can somebody else help me with my wifi?
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> Fivetwentysix: take a look at that ^
[03:11] <hydan> i was abou to say that i didn't see the difference between kde 4.0 and my previous version, but supposively i'm still using 3.5.6
[03:11] <hydan> i thought i followed the instructions on the website correctly.
[03:11] <dimebag> um, why doesnt kubuntu have a plugin for flac installed?
[03:15] <dimebag> um, why doesnt kubuntu have a plugin for flac installed?
[03:15] <Arwen> dimebag, um, because Kubuntu isn't a program?
[03:16] <dimebag> oh yeah , what is it?
[03:17] <benwhitey> hey
[03:17] <Arwen> dimebag, where exactly do you need a flac plugin? amarok and kaffiene should have it
[03:17] <benwhitey> but could someone help me wtih my wifi???
[03:17] <benwhitey> i'm quite lost
[03:17] <dimebag> amarok, dosnt have it
[03:18] <hydan> i'm wondering why i don't have kde4 after following the instructions on the site.
[03:19] <benwhitey> ok i'll try tomorrow
[03:19] <benwhitey> this is annoying
[03:19] <Jucato> hydan: did you follow everything? the bottom part gives instructions how to add a KDE 4 session in kdm
[03:20] <hydan> aah
[03:20] <hydan> i stopped after the export commands
[03:20] <Jucato> tsk tsk :)
[03:20] <Jucato> hydan: playing with KDE 4, you should make a habit of reading *all* instructions carefully :)
[03:20] <hydan> :)
[03:20] <hydan> sorry guys
[03:21] <hydan> thanks for the suggestion Jucato
[03:24] <bonbonthejon> what is the default permissions for /home/user
[03:28] <hitmanWilly> back in a bit, have to go out for a minute
[03:34] <Fivetwentysix> How do i know if im using KDE or Gnome
[03:34] <Fivetwentysix> i dont really know the differences
[03:34] <hydan> i'm checking the site to see that i followed the instructions correctly, i'm sure i did. when i select "kde4" from the kde menu and login, the screens goes blank, and returns back to kdm.
[03:35] <hydan> the only difference between the instructions on the site and what i did is that i installed kdebase4 instead of kde4base-dev
[03:36] <bonbonthejon> Fivetwentysix: go to help, and it should say about kde or about gnome
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> Fivetwentysix- what does the button in the lower-left corner of your screen look like?
[03:41] <sayers> When the KDE wallet says "Please enter a password to use with this wallet" what password should I use. The one for the account it is trying to store or what?
[03:44] <stanley_> hi could anyone help me install a window decoration on fiesty
[03:44] <stanley_> ??
[03:46] <oldwest> what is it?
[03:47] <oldwest> stan - what are u trying to install?
[03:47] <Jucato> sayers: it's a separate password. your user account is not associated with your kde wallet
[03:47] <Jucato> user account password I mean
[03:48] <oldwest> anybody home? are the lights on?
[03:48] <stanley_> oh oldwest i'm trying to install a window decoration
[03:48] <stanley_> i downloaded it from kde look
[03:48] <oldwest> stanley - what kind?
[03:49] <stanley_> it's in tar.gz format
[03:49] <Jucato> stanley_: you have to compile it most probably
[03:49] <oldwest> hmmm can't find an rpm?
[03:49] <Jucato> er... we don't use RPM's here...
[03:49] <Jucato> try finding a DEB
[03:49] <stanley_> nope no rpm
[03:50] <Arwen> !alien
[03:50] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:50] <stanley_> well atleast not on kde look
[03:50] <stanley_> isn't there another way of installing window decorations??
[03:50] <stanley_> the way u can install bootscreens
[03:50] <oldwest> yup debian would be best
[03:50] <Jucato> stanley_: what is the name of the window decoration?
[03:50] <stanley_> n icon packaages
[03:50] <stanley_> it's called IceNine
[03:50] <hydan> so....anyone want to try helping me to understand why the kde4 session doesn't work?
[03:51] <Jucato> stanley_: you have to install window decorations as programs, unless it's not a complete window decoration (like a deKorator or IceWM theme)
[03:51] <stanley_> i think it's an iceWM theme
[03:51] <Jucato> !changethemes | stanley_
[03:51] <ubotu> stanley_: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[03:51] <stanley_> ok
[03:51] <Jucato> stanley_: last link, scroll to the window decoration part
[03:52] <stanley_> aright
[03:52] <stanley_> thanx jucato
[03:52] <kakarotto> ayuda en espaol
[03:52] <Jucato> !es | kakarotto
[03:52] <ubotu> kakarotto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:53] <masterk> is there a divx web player plugin for firefox on linux?
[03:53] <masterk> !divx
[03:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:53] <Jucato> masterk: try the mozilla mplayer plugin
[03:53] <masterk> that didn't help
[03:53] <masterk> what?
[03:54] <masterk> mplayer?
[03:54] <masterk> where do I get it?
[03:54] <masterk> !mplayer
[03:54] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[03:54] <Jucato> from the repositories. try searching for it
[03:54] <oldwest> what would i look for in synaptics that would be same as Notepad or similar?
[03:54] <masterk> lol thx ubotu and jucato
[03:54] <Jucato> oldwest: Kate (already instaled)
[03:54] <oldwest> don't see it - running kubuntu - kde
[03:55] <Jucato> oldwest: K Menu -> Utilities
[03:55] <Jucato> oldwest: or press Alt+Space and beginning typing "kate"
[03:56] <oldwest> yup - putting the cart before the horse again - sorry.....
[03:56] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer | masterk
[03:56] <ubotu> masterk: mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31+main-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 477 kB, installed size 1636 kB
[03:58] <oldwest> yea jucato - found it - sorry....
[03:58] <hydan> nope, that didn't work...
[03:59] <sayers> Jucato: thanks
[03:59] <oldwest> is there a way to highlight just a section or a sentence to save in Xchat?
[03:59] <Jucato> hm??
[04:01] <BluesKaj> no copy & paste in xchat ?
[04:01] <hydan> does anyone have time to help me debug this problem?
[04:02] <oldwest> I meant that if you wanted to highlight and save a response or something in Xchat -  is there a way to do that without saving a whole session?
[04:02] <hydan> oldwest: i'msure you could write a python script for it
[04:03] <BluesKaj> oldwest, use konversation ..copy & paste works in it , as  does url links , just like mirc
[04:03] <hydan> oldwest: #xchat MIGHT be able to help you.
[04:03] <hydan> yeah, i use konversation as well.
[04:03] <hydan> seems to work better in my experience
[04:04] <oldwest> can you do it with Konversation maybe?
[04:04] <hydan> yep
[04:04] <dimebag> how do i install flac codec?
[04:05] <hydan> dimebag: have you tried "apt-cache search flac"?
[04:05] <oldwest> well I just highlighted and saved a sentence I wanted to save the info and it saved the whole running page of all questions and answers from before
[04:06] <hydan> oldwest: in konversation?
[04:06] <oldwest> blues thx that what I needed to know
[04:07] <BluesKaj> oldwest, my advice is dump xchat
[04:08] <Jucato> oldwest: you mean something like channel logging?
[04:08] <oldwest> blueskaj - will do some reading about xchat - see if i can find easy way to do cut'n'paste - thx - i have konversation installed - will use that for awhile
[04:09] <hydan> oldwest: try messing around with the advanced options in the "configure notifications" menu
[04:09] <Anubuntu> Gots a question folks, I need a program(s) to turn two mp4 files into something that can be played in a common household DVD player.
[04:09] <oldwest> blues sounds good to me - xchat was installed and didn't know about konversation till a day or so ago
[04:09] <geekytrent> so, i finally got Kubuntu installed. the problem seemed to be a dvd drive going bad.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> oldwest, i used xchat alot but konversation is much more flexible , except for the lack of serverlists ...that's the only thing lacking IMO.
[04:10] <hydan> Anubuntu: have you played w/ k3b yet?
[04:10] <oldwest> blues - is it fairly straight forward to save the kubuntu channel in konversation?
[04:11] <Anubuntu> hydan: not really, wasnt aware it had that function.
[04:11] <hydan> click on the "further actions" tab at the bottom.
[04:11] <hydan> Anubuntu --^
[04:11] <dimebag> hydan: there are many flac codecs
[04:11] <hydan> Anubuntu: it should be of some help
[04:11] <hydan> dimebag: indeed :)
[04:12] <dimebag> hydan: which one is for amarok?
[04:13] <ninina> Hmmm I have a problem.  I need to print to an epsilon stylus printer that is shared on the network, but the computer it is actually attached to is a PC...how do I set this up
[04:14] <Anubuntu> kk, I'm sorry, but I am still rather lost.
[04:15] <sayers> So "technically" I shouldn't use Mp3's?
[04:15] <BluesKaj> yes oldwest , when you're configuring , you'll see the spaces where to insert the server and below that the space to insert the chats
[04:15] <Arwen> no, you shouldn't. MP3s suck in more ways than I can count.
[04:15] <darkwatch> hello
[04:15] <Anubuntu> I tried to go for the Video DVD, but it seems to want dvd video files, how does one convert mp4 to dvd video/audio files?
[04:15] <sayers> Arwen: I like them :)
[04:16] <darkwatch> the kubuntu is the best
[04:16] <Arwen> bah, they're like Vinyl records.... antiquated
[04:16] <sayers> I don't have a fine-tuned ear to notice anyway
[04:16] <Arwen> use Vorbis or AAC
[04:16] <hydan> dimebag: i'm not sure
[04:16] <RawSewage> does Kubuntu have jobs available
[04:16] <darkwatch> someone can tell me ???
[04:16] <hydan> dimebag: maybe someone in #amarok will know.
[04:16] <sayers> Well I'll take that into mind if I rip more CD's but I doubt there is a huge difference
[04:16] <darkwatch> i want heelp
[04:16] <dimebag> hydan: k, ty
[04:17] <darkwatch> k,ty
[04:17] <Arwen> sayers, there isn't, but it doesn't hurt to be up-to-date
[04:17] <oldwest> Hay blueskaj - did google on cut n paste - came up w/faq - highlight test - tap middle moudse button - open kate and paste there it is - kool
[04:17] <Arwen> then again, if you rip CDs you should be using lossless so that you have a master to encode future versions from..
[04:17] <oldwest> highlight text - opps
[04:17] <sayers> Arwen: I rip from the Master so :)
[04:17] <Arwen> heh
[04:18] <sayers> Anyway I could care less. I can't tell a difference
[04:18] <hydan> Anubuntu: http://www.ipodlinux.org/requests/?do=details&id=249
[04:18] <BluesKaj> ok, oldwest good to know ...but I'm sticking with konversation just the same :)
[04:18] <hydan> Anubuntu: that came up on a simple google.com/linux search
[04:18] <sayers> Arwen: the question was "Are mp3's legal?"
[04:18] <Arwen> eh? yes. lol
[04:19] <Arwen> not legal to encode or decode, but the files themselves are legal.
[04:19] <sayers> Hm?
[04:19] <sayers> Encode , decode? As in burn / rip
[04:19] <hydan> dimebag: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210683
[04:19] <underdog5004> encode, decode, as in create or play
[04:19] <Arwen> because some asshole claims to have a patent on it and wants $5 for each copy of it
[04:19] <masterk> mplayer is playing the audio and video weird... the sound is fine but the video is really slow
[04:19] <Arwen> encode = make a file. decode = play a file.
[04:19] <masterk> and this is the firefox plug mplayer
[04:19] <sayers> Arwen: Haha! well that asswhole is gonna be very poor if he wants $5 for me to play a song
[04:20] <Arwen> sayers, not to play a song - he wants $5 for the use of an mp3 decoder :-)
[04:20] <underdog5004> so, what's the story...is mp3 dead?
[04:20] <el_isma> Hello, I've got a question. How do I launch a new KDM in a new xserver from console? (while there's one kdm and xserver already running)
[04:20] <Arwen> either way, nobody cares :-P
[04:20] <sayers> And what is funny is not just the users dont care, big companys dont either
[04:20] <sayers> maybe they do >.>
[04:20] <Jucato> el_isma: you can only have 1 instance of KDM (or GDM) running
[04:20] <Arwen> masterk, is your CPU slow? also, could be bandwidth, increase your cache size
[04:21] <Arwen> underdog5004, no, but it should have died ages ago.
[04:21] <el_isma> Jucato: Oh
[04:21] <el_isma> Jucato: how do I get a new login screen, then?
[04:21] <masterk> it played fine under windows when i had windows on this
[04:21] <trpr_> they get their $5 from the software projects willing to pay for a license. mp3 support is missing from the repos because ubuntu has no intention of paying for the license required to legally distribute / use the codec
[04:21] <Jucato> el_isma: K Menu -> Start New Session? but it's the same KDM
[04:21] <oldwest> hay jucato - thx for tip on alt+space - great short cut - I'll learn this stuff it kills me  :o)
[04:22] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:22] <sayers> masterk: The problem is your Video Card. Need to get a driver for it :)
[04:22] <underdog5004> trpr_, I'm so glad I've already got the codec installed!
[04:22] <sayers> That would be my best guess.
[04:22] <Fivetwentysix> trpr_ I always though the mpeg-3 codec was opensource.
[04:22] <trpr_> underdog5004: heh. YOU are free to do whatever you want. its Ubuntu's but that is on the line by offering it via official repo
[04:22] <underdog5004> gotcha
[04:23] <masterk> well how do I check if it has the correct driver installed?
[04:23] <underdog5004> ubuntu == canonical, yeah?
[04:23] <el_isma> I should explain a bit more my problem. I'm setting up NX server, and, by default, when I log in (in nx) I get what I would if I had logged on KDE locally. I want to have a choice
[04:23] <oldwest> VLC works pretty good for play .wmv files - any other suggestions?
[04:23] <el_isma> oldwest: w32codecs + any player
[04:24] <el_isma> oldwest: not sure though, "it just works" on my kaffeine
[04:24] <masterk> this is the video card I have: S3 Savage IX8+
[04:24] <oldwest> el_isma - w32codecs in synaptics?
[04:24] <masterk> how do I check to see if it is installed as this?
[04:25] <Jucato> !w32codecs | oldwest
[04:25] <ubotu> oldwest: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:26] <oldwest> thx -ju & ub -
[04:27] <trpr_> Fivetwentysix: some company called Thompson Consumer Electronics claims ownership over it. maybe you are thinking of ogg vorbis. its a comparable format, but open source
[04:27] <underdog5004> I'm doing a  mke2fs  -jSc /dev/hdc1 on a 200Gb hdd...it's taking _forever_!
[04:27] <BluesKaj> el_isma, don't forget the libdvdcss2 codec as well
[04:28] <el_isma> BluesKaj: I don't have DVDs :) Don't believe in them
[04:29] <BluesKaj> too bad
[04:30] <BluesKaj> what is it that makes you avoid them, el_isma ?
[04:33] <BluesKaj> these days it's like saying "i don't believe in movies"
[04:33] <Aresilek> is it possible to extend a partition leftwards?
[04:33] <el_isma> BluesKaj: DVD- and DVD+ seem too much trouble. Format wars ain't pretty. HD-DVD and Bluray seem to be wanting to enter the ring (though, I don't think either will dethrone DVD).
[04:34] <trpr_> isn't the capacity on those new formats many times that of dvd though?
[04:34] <el_isma> trpr_: not enough
[04:34] <el_isma> trpr_: They're about 3-4 times bigger
[04:34] <BluesKaj> the players and recoreders are quite universal now ...as far as regular def is concerned , there really is no format war anymore
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> fd to cd, now there was a jump
[04:35] <trpr_> i'm not such a big fan myself. i resent all the drm built into dvd
[04:35] <el_isma> BluesKaj: So, if you had to choose, which one would you use? + or -?
[04:35] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:35] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:35] <trpr_> Jucato: affirmative
[04:35] <el_isma> Jucato is really rigth, We should continue in offtopic
[04:36] <el_isma> right. I hate th-ht
[04:36] <Jucato> :)
[04:37] <BluesKaj> I use + RW anmd +R mostly
[04:37] <Jack31> how do i enable universe / resitrcited formats in kubuntu
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> Jack31: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[04:38] <Jack31> feisty
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> Jack31: i do believe they are enabled by default on feisty
[04:39] <Jack31> oh okay
[04:39] <BluesKaj> Jack31, open your in the run command type : kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list ..take out any #'s you see in front of the deb repository addresses and save the file then in the terminal  sudo apt-get update
[04:39] <Jack31> i thought so but wasnt sure
[04:39] <Jack31> yeh i think I did that already, ill check
[04:40] <el_isma> I'm setting up nx server. My pc is always logged in (in kde, of course). When I log in NX, it restores my last saved session (which usually is weeks old). Is there anything I could do to tell it not to restore the session? As far as I know, Nx just runs "startkde"
[04:41] <masterk> it says that S3 Inc. 86Chow do I install this driver: http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html
[04:41] <masterk> oops typos
[04:41] <masterk> how do I install this driver: http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html
[04:42] <rollerskatejamms> Anybody know how I can manage services and runlevels from the command line without installing an additional tool like sysv-rc-conf
[04:42] <rollerskatejamms> I want to do it manually
[04:44] <familia> hi
[04:44] <kakarotto> hi
[04:44] <familia> anyone knows how to install snes9x or zsnes in kubuntu?
[04:44] <kakarotto> someone can help me?
[04:44] <familia> i managed to install zsnes
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> !upstart
[04:44] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[04:45] <familia> it runs fine but when i load the games nothing happens
[04:45] <kakarotto> how i do to play mp3 in amarok?
[04:45] <familia> lol thats a good question me neither knows how to do that
[04:47] <albertmk> Hello. Can anyone help me?
[04:47] <kakarotto> hello?
[04:47] <kakarotto> i need help!
[04:47] <Jucato> for mp3s, install "libxine-extracodecs"
[04:47] <albertmk> I can't use the command "sudo apt-get install build-dep gdal"
[04:48] <rollerskatejamms> !ask | kakarotto
[04:48] <ubotu> kakarotto: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:48] <Jucato> albertmk: you're not supposed to use "install" and "build-dep" together I think
[04:48] <Jucato> rollerskatejamms: he already asked
[04:48] <rollerskatejamms> oh
[04:48] <albertmk> jucato: even so, it doesn't work
[04:48] <kakarotto> ok  but isn't work
[04:48] <rollerskatejamms> silly me
[04:49] <kakarotto> it' s says something about the pack
[04:49] <albertmk> if I type "sudo apt-get install gdal" , it says that "Coudn't find package gdal"
[04:50] <kakarotto> the same for me
[04:50] <albertmk> I cannot find it in google ...
[04:50] <kakarotto> me too
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> !find gdal
[04:50] <ubotu> Found: gdal-bin, libgdal-doc, libgdal1-1.3.2, libgdal1-1.3.2-dev, libgdal1-1.3.2-grass (and 1 others)
[04:51] <familia> hey for the mp3's is "sudo apot-get install libxine-extracodecs" right?
[04:51] <familia> apt**
[04:51] <Jucato> familia: yes
[04:51] <familia> coooool
[04:51] <albertmk> Ubotu: I already installed these packs
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> albertmk, You can't talk to ubotu :-P
[04:51] <albertmk> but I cannot find the specific "gdal!
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> Ubotu is a bot
[04:51] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[04:52] <albertmk> Yes, I have noticed , lol hes a bot
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> albertmk: try running gdal-bin
[04:52] <kakarotto> y tried to instal de extracodec but isn't work
[04:52] <familia> root@familia-desktop:~# sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:52] <familia> Reading package lists... Done
[04:52] <familia> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:52] <familia> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:52] <familia> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:52] <familia> is only available from another source
[04:52] <familia> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[04:52] <familia> thats what i get when trying to install the stuff for hearing mp3's
[04:53] <albertmk> What should I do to run gdal-bin?
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> familia: do you have your universe/multiverse repos enabled?
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> albertmk: type it into the console :)
[04:53] <familia> i've formatted so many times this pc that i don't know if i have them enabled
[04:54] <familia> where can i enable them?
[04:54] <kakarotto> i done the same like familia
[04:54] <masterk> how do I install this driver: http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> familia: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <albertmk> If I type "gdal-bin", it says: " bash: gdal-bin: command not found.
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> familia: uncomment everything with a deb in front of it
[04:55] <familia> deb http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[04:55] <familia> deb-src http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[04:55] <familia> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[04:55] <familia> ## distribution.
[04:56] <familia> deb http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[04:56] <familia> deb-src http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[04:56] <familia> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[04:56] <familia> ## repository.
[04:56] <familia> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[04:56] <familia> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[04:56] <familia> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[04:56] <familia> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[04:56] <familia> ## team.
[04:56] <albertmk> Can anyone help me please?
[04:56] <familia> # deb http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[04:56] <masterk> !paste
[04:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:56] <familia> # deb-src http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[04:56] <familia> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[04:56] <familia> ## repository.
[04:56] <BluesKaj> !pastebin |  familia
[04:56] <ubotu> familia: please see above
[04:56] <familia> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[04:56] <familia> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[04:57] <familia> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[04:57] <familia> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[04:57] <familia> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> familia: uncomment the deb and deb-src lines after the universe blurb
[04:57] <familia> # deb http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:57] <HellTrade> Could here some one help me?
[04:57] <familia> # deb-src http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:57] <familia> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[04:57] <familia> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[04:57] <familia> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[04:57] <familia> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[04:57] <familia> thats what it says
[04:57] <familia> what should i do to enable the required repositories?
[04:57] <familia> how do i uncomment?
[04:57] <masterk> take away the "#"
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> familia: remove the # in front of the line
[04:57] <familia> ok
[04:58] <familia> i can't
[04:58] <albertmk> Please, I need help to find "gdal" package.
[04:58] <masterk> how do I install this driver: http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html
[04:59] <Jucato> familia: next time use a pastebin
[04:59] <Jucato> !paste | familia
[04:59] <ubotu> familia: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> familia: run kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in a console
[05:00] <familia> ok
[05:00] <familia> hey what's the diference between using the "normal" paste method and the pastebin?
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> familia: root owns the etc directory
[05:00] <|lostbyte|> Is there a definition for each environmental Variable in bash and their defaults ?
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> familia: just pasting in here floods the channel
[05:01] <masterk> damnit can no one help with my driver issues?
[05:01] <familia> ok, there is a problem if i only paste 2 lines?
[05:01] <masterk> that wasn't just 2 lines familia
[05:02] <familia> but i'm talking from now on
[05:02] <familia> lol
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> familia: i would say no problem there, but anything over that you should use pastebin
[05:02] <familia> ok
[05:02] <masterk> 2  lines is no big deal
[05:02] <|lostbyte|> max 5 is allowed.
[05:02] <familia> sorry about that, im a n00b
[05:02] <familia> root@familia-desktop:~# kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <|lostbyte|> Not more
[05:02] <familia> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> familia: my general rule is anything over 2 lines gets pastebinned
[05:02] <familia> thats what i get when trying to run what you said
[05:03] <masterk> !savage
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about savage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> familia: does just that come up? or does a box asking for a passwd come up as well?
[05:03] <masterk> !S3 Savage IX8+
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s3 savage ix8+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <familia> no, i'm already logged as sudo
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> familia: with sudo -i?
[05:04] <familia> yeah
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> familia: not really a good idea...
[05:04] <familia> ufff
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> familia: but does kate come up?
[05:05] <familia> no
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> familia: ok, in a console sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <familia> hey wait, i just opened the folder from konqueror
[05:06] <familia> selected open with --->Kate
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> familia: it probably won't let you save it tho
[05:06] <familia> but when i try to save the changes
[05:07] <familia> i get an error mesage like "could not write blablabla"
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> familia: when you sudo -i it only works in the console session you did it in
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> familia: root owns that file
[05:07] <familia> ok i'm going to try the nano thing
[05:08] <familia> oo ok
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> familia: nano is a handy tool when you need to edit files from the command line
[05:08] <familia> i can see the file in "konsole" style
[05:08] <familia> but how can i edit it?
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> familia: keyboard
[05:09] <masterk> what's the command to show the pci info?
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> masterk: lspci
[05:09] <BluesKaj> hitmanWilly, I tried that today but i couldn't save my changes cuz i forgot what the save command is :)
[05:09] <familia> great
[05:09] <familia> now to save it?
[05:09] <familia> how i save it?
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> familia: ctrl-o
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj: you too :)
[05:10] <BluesKaj> now he tells me :)
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> its written right on the bottom...
[05:10] <familia> File Name to Write: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:10] <familia> then enter?
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> familia: yup
[05:10] <BluesKaj> i didn
[05:10] <masterk> it shows up as "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)" in lspci but I should have a "S3 Savage IX8+"
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> familia: then ctrl-x to exit
[05:11] <hydan> can someone PLEASE help me get kde4 to work??
[05:11] <familia> so then is sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs?
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> familia: run sudo apt-get update first
[05:11] <familia> and thats it, i can play mp3's?
[05:12] <BluesKaj> I didn't see that hitmanWilly, I just stuff like, ^X etc
[05:12] <BluesKaj> saw
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj: nano's pretty easy compared to the alternatives, ie vim or emacs
[05:13] <HellTrade> can i encrypt the partition?
[05:13] <albertmk> Please, I need help.
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> familia: assuming everything works on the install, yup
[05:13] <albertmk> I cannot install "gdal" package because I cannot find it...
[05:13] <familia> damn its so hard to install stuff... i dont have a clue of what to do with .tar.gz
[05:13] <familia> thanks hitmanwilly ;)
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> familia: tar.gz is just like a zip file
[05:14] <familia> yeah, i unzipped it but still i don't have a clue of what to do with whats inside
[05:14] <BluesKaj> yeah i used suado nano to open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file cuz there was an error on one of the lines, but never did figure out what was wrong ...had reconfig xserver-xorg to get back to the desktop
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> familia: is it source?
[05:15] <familia> i don't know
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> familia: try this: go into the dir where its unzipped
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> familia: in konsole
[05:15] <familia> desktop
[05:15] <familia> how do i do that?
[05:15] <familia> sorry but i'm a ultranoob
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> familia: cd ~/Desktop/<unzipped_folder_name>
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> familia: the ~ is a shortcut to your home folder
[05:16] <albertmk> It seems that I ll have to solve this problem by myself
[05:16] <familia> ok
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> familia: now run ./configure
[05:16] <familia> hey look, i updated the las thing that showed up is
[05:16] <masterk> can someone help me get my video to not be laggy when I play video on the firefox mplayer plugin?
[05:16] <familia> Fetched 3766kB in 2m59s (21.0kB/s)
[05:16] <familia> Reading package lists... Done
[05:17] <underdog5004> !pastebin > familia
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> familia: now you can run sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:18] <familia> its right?
[05:18] <familia> ok
[05:18] <hydan> i can't get any help to get kde4 working, so my question now is, when i 'sudo apt-get remove kdebase4', why is it that only 193mb will be freed, when there was about 600mb used for the installation?
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> familia: most things in linux will spit out error messages if something goes wrong
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> familia: no error means no error :)
[05:19] <familia> same stuff.... i says i doesnt have any candidates blabla
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> familia: hold on...
[05:19] <BluesKaj> nite folks
[05:20] <masterk> !vista | I_LUV_VISTA
[05:20] <ubotu> I_LUV_VISTA: vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> love the link :)
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> familia: it may not be available for dapper....
[05:21] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: yo
[05:21] <kyah2004> Daskreech: i think i am about to go back to windows for a while man
[05:21] <HellTrade> anyone knows a good RSS reader?
[05:21] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Ha ha :)
[05:21] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: What's up now?
[05:21] <familia> buuuuuuuuu
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> HellTrade: try akregator
[05:21] <hydan> when i 'sudo apt-get remove kdebase4', why is it that only 193mb will be freed, when there was about 600mb used for the installation?
[05:21] <familia> damn my pc freezzes sometimes
[05:21] <DaSkreech> HellTrade: Alt+space -> Akre -> <enter>
[05:21] <kyah2004> daskreech: i think this 64 bit thing might be affecting 32 bit firefix
[05:22] <HellTrade> an a and what is about a good good IRC client?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: ..
[05:22] <familia> dude's anyone knows hardware?
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> hydan: try sudo apt-get autoremove after that
[05:22] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: I thought that you were using 32 bit ?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> that makes a lot of difference
[05:22] <familia> my pc does a strange noise and then freezes a few seconds
[05:22] <DaSkreech> HellTrade: What are you using now?
[05:22] <kyah2004> DaSkreech: yeh i am for kubuntu but the hardware is 64 bit
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> familia: you may want to run a memtest, its an option on boot
[05:23] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: AMD?
[05:23] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh
[05:23] <familia> yeah, it runs fine
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[05:23] <familia> but still it happens random
[05:23] <familia> it does the same noise that when i power the pc
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> how hot does the box run?
[05:23] <familia> no, p4 intel
[05:23] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Well if you installed 32 bit then it should run in 32 bit
[05:23] <familia> hyper threading 3,06
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> familia: you say that it makes a funny noise when you start it up?
[05:24] <HellTrade> a good IRC client?
[05:24] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Did you try run firefox from the command line so you could see any errors that it threw?
[05:24] <kyah2004> Daskreech: well man i cant say i didnt try. i'll stick with virus filled windows for now until i can buy a mac or until linux reach mac level
[05:24] <familia> no, it makes the same noise that when i power the pc
[05:25] <DaSkreech> HellTrade: What are you using now?
[05:25] <kyah2004> Daskreech: ok i will try that now
[05:25] <HellTrade> Is there an alternative to skype?
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> familia: like a hard drive is skipping?
[05:25] <familia> hmmm i don't think so, i changed the hard drive
[05:25] <familia> but it still happens
[05:26] <DaSkreech> WOuld help if you answered some questions so that I can answer some of yours
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> i don't know, hardware issues are really hard to diagnose remotely...
[05:26] <familia> i'm leaving, school tomorrow lol
[05:26] <familia> thaks for the help
[05:26] <familia> bye
[05:26] <DaSkreech> bye
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> later, sorry the mp3 didn't work for ya
[05:27] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: Use Firefox?
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> yup
[05:27] <DaSkreech> installed flash?
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> yup
[05:27] <kyah2004> Daskreech: i'll post the errors to that ubuntu page and send u the link
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Cool
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: i take it it doesn't work for you?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> It does
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> oh, ok...
[05:28] <DaSkreech> I'm trying to help kyah2004 and he's having a hell of a time
[05:28] <albertmk> hi
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> ahh, gotcha...
[05:28] <DaSkreech> pretty much after firefix installed everything after that went to hell
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Flash wouldn't verify
[05:28] <DaSkreech>  then it wouldn't install
[05:29] <DaSkreech> now Firefox crashes everytime he loads a page
[05:29] <DaSkreech> ...
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Never heard anything like it
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: reconfigure it?
[05:29] <jake> hi guys ive just installedt feisty, but when i mount my external storage, it cant open the the device
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: i found the best way was to install via the repos
[05:30] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: Firefox?
[05:30] <jake> everythings fine in edgy
[05:30] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: the repos don't work
[05:30] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: .... strange
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: yeah, sounds like a config file got borked somewhere
[05:30] <DaSkreech> For flash? or Firefox?
[05:30] <kyah2004> Daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21931/
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> are universe/multiverse enabled?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: yup
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, that is strange
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Yaeh
[05:31] <DaSkreech> I know
[05:31] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: This is pre crash I take it :)
[05:31] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: that all looks normal
[05:31] <kyah2004> Daskreech: oh zeen
[05:32] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: as an aside how many addons do you ahve installed?
[05:32] <kyah2004> Daskreech yeh its precrash
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> kyah2004: that's normal
[05:32] <DaSkreech> have
[05:32] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: youtube crashes it you say?
[05:32] <kyah2004> Daskreech: just the google browser sync
[05:32] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh
[05:32] <DaSkreech> ok I think that should work
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Ok go to youtube and when it crashes see if there are more messages printed in the konsole
[05:33] <kyah2004> Daskreech: ok cool
[05:33] <RawSewage> in Konversation, is there a way to hide Joins/Quits on a per-channel basis
[05:33] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: you haven't heard any problems with the new flash and any well known flash sites?
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> nope, but i usually don't look at stuff like that unless ive got an issue :)
[05:34] <kyah2004> Daskreech: strange enough not crashing so far
[05:34] <kyah2004> Daskreech: actually playing a file
[05:34] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Is it loading?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: Yaeh but we sit in a support channel :)
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> ff can be twitchy at times...
[05:34] <nirmal> :D :P
[05:35] <DaSkreech> you tend to "overhear" common problems
[05:35] <DaSkreech> tell me about it
[05:35] <kyah2004> Daskreech: haha hold on i testing torrentspy now
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> lol...well it hasn't been on slashdot
[05:35] <DaSkreech> It's very much a Windows application
[05:35] <kyah2004> Daskreech: torrentspy stil not loading
[05:35] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: If it's on Slashdot it MUST be true!!
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> unless its april 1st...
[05:36] <DaSkreech> OMG! POniez!!!
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> roflmao
[05:36] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: what is it doing?
[05:37] <sonic> anyone know my ubuntu creates grub menu.lst with "root=UUID=42aef9ff-883b-48ed-8632-f0f3ecffe3fc"   Im trying to install xubuntu on and old machine and boot fails because it cant find /dev/disk/by-uuid/....
[05:37] <kyah2004> Daskreech: youtube seems to be working fine
[05:37] <kyah2004> Daskreech: but torrentspy not loading
[05:37] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Yeah I heard. But is Torrentspy trying to load or does it just load up a blank page and say done ?
[05:39] <kyah2004> Daskreech: loads a black page but continues loading
[05:39] <DaSkreech> Well if you would like to know they found the biggest jellyfish ever
[05:39] <RawSewage> no they didnt
[05:40] <RawSewage> they killed the biggest jellyfish ever
[05:40] <RawSewage> man always has to kill things
[05:40] <DaSkreech>  well they also found a Peanut butter fish
[05:40] <DaSkreech> what else were they to do?
[05:40] <RawSewage> near the Sandwich Islands
[05:40] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know how to stop all the "snd" modules and restart them at once?
[05:41] <crackhead_25> for some reason, my sound stopped working everywhere
[05:41] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Well I have two other quick options
[05:41] <DaSkreech>  Konqueror :)
[05:41] <DaSkreech> and ktorrent has toerrntspy built into it
[05:41] <DaSkreech> !sound
[05:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:43] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Do you browse torrentspy or just search?
[05:43] <kyah2004> Daskreech: search
[05:43] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: alt+space -> ktor -> <enter>
[05:44] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: let me know when it's open
[05:44] <kyah2004> well remember i use my firefox browser plugins
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:44] <DaSkreech> This is probably just as good
[05:44] <DaSkreech> at least.. we shall see
[05:44] <kyah2004> Daskreech: its open
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Ok in the bottom Left corner there should be a search button
[05:45] <crackhead_25> anyone?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Click it and it expands
[05:45] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh
[05:45] <DaSkreech> !sound | crackhead_25
[05:45] <ubotu> crackhead_25: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:45] <DaSkreech> YOu can select torrentspy from the drop down
[05:45] <meuhlol> hi someone can help me? i want be able to read midi files in firefox, how do it?
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Do  a search for something and I'll do it from the browser and see if it matches up
[05:46] <DaSkreech> !midi
[05:46] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[05:46] <meuhlol> not midi files
[05:46] <kyah2004> Daskreech: bleach
[05:46] <DaSkreech> 723 hits
[05:46] <meuhlol> files at server, like <bgsound src = urltomidi.mid> firefox ask me for a plugin
[05:47] <DaSkreech> oh..
[05:47] <DaSkreech> umm
[05:47] <DaSkreech> mplayer?
[05:47] <meuhlol> already installed
[05:47] <DaSkreech> not sure. Never hit that problem
[05:47] <kyah2004> Daskreech: where do i see the hits
[05:48] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: #ubuntu is more versed in wrangling with Firefox
[05:48] <DaSkreech> you can ask there as well
[05:48] <carutsu> ubotu
[05:48] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: You typed bleach in the search and hit enter ?
[05:48] <DaSkreech> with torrentspy selected?
[05:48] <carutsu> !info yakuake>carutsu
[05:48] <meuhlol> but im on kubuntu xD
[05:48] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh
[05:49] <majnoon> anyone else having trouble burning cdroms after feisty upgrade ???
[05:49] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: It's an app issue unfortunately :-)
[05:49] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: and a answer that works is an answer that works :)
[05:49] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: and you dont' get a new tab?
[05:49] <DaSkreech> at the top you should have a tab that says all torrents
[05:49] <DaSkreech> then one that says bleach
[05:50] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh i see that
[05:50] <crackhead_25> ubotu: i just un-enabled and re-enabled my sound system. now it just keeps cycling through the "starting sound system" dialog box now, though. 0 to 100%, then it does it again.
[05:50] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: app issue? u mean?
[05:50] <kyah2004> Daskreech: but i don tsee the hits number
[05:50] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: and nothing in the page?
[05:51] <crackhead_25> i just un-enabled and re-enabled my sound system. now it just keeps cycling through the "starting sound system" dialog box now, though. 0 to 100%, then it does it again.
[05:51] <crackhead_25> [23:51]  <meuhlol> DaSkreech: app issue? u mean?
[05:51] <ninina> I'm trying to add a printer connected to XP system, but when I browse to find it I keep getting: Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[05:51] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: you can play midi but firefox can't and firefox is an #ubuntu type app
[05:51] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh it shows some links and there file sizes
[05:51] <DaSkreech> Search Results: bleach
[05:51] <DaSkreech>  Torrents found: 723| 50 Result Size
[05:51] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Don't see that?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Right above RSS feeds for this search?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: I don't get people :(
[05:52] <kyah2004> Daskreech: whats the search engine option u using
[05:52] <kyah2004> Daskreech: ?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Torrentspy
[05:53] <kyah2004> Daskreech: seems like i have to add that hold on..
[05:53] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Where are you searching?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> In Ktorrent?
[05:53] <kyah2004> Daskreech: it was searching ktorrent by default
[05:53] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: so only use old sh*** of konkeror? :/
[05:53] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: really?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Hmm
[05:54] <meuhlol> rofl, at win firefox rulz with all, but windoz = kaka xD
[05:54] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Settings -> Configure Ktoarrent -> plugins -> search plugin
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Load it
[05:54] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: No. Ask in #ubuntu as well
[05:55] <DaSkreech> I'm sure that Firefox can play Midi I just don't know how off the top of my head
[05:55] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: I don't think I get people either
[05:55] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: I know ironic eh?
[05:55] <meuhlol> im on lol
[05:55] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: They ask for help and you ask them something to better answer and they get huffy and log out
[05:56] <kgx> does the % sign have any special meaning in cron? for reason, the following doesnt get executed if i have a % sign in it:  php4 -f cron_BatchEmailInvoices.php > /var/log/accounts_mailer_$(date +%d).log
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> midi in firefox? mplayer won't handle it?
[05:56] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: I hate when they do that.
[05:56] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: I'm sure that it does but I have no idea how to do it
[05:56] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: You got that?
[05:57] <kyah2004> Daskreech: it keep on saying bad url
[05:57] <kyah2004> nad i double checked it
[05:57] <DaSkreech> When you load the plugin and search?
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> kyah2004: that means its pointing at a bad url? maybe?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: But I'm using it here
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> oh, ok...
[05:58] <DaSkreech> I'm starting to wonder if it's a network issue...
[05:58] <dwidmann> The % character introduces an escape sequence  that
[05:58] <dwidmann>               is  expanded  to a time value or other information.  The escape sequences
[05:58] <dwidmann>               and their meanings are as follows; the braces denote optional portions.
[05:58] <dwidmann> man bash ;)
[05:58] <DaSkreech> kgx: I think that putting it in ' ' quotes may help
[05:59] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: in ktorrent ?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> with the torrentspy search plugin?
[05:59] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:00] <DaSkreech> ok try a new one
[06:00] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to stop and then restart all of the snd drivers, or why sound throughout my system would suddenly have just stopped working??
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Let me see something
[06:00] <crimsun> crackhead_25: pastebin ``amixer'', then tell me the URL.
[06:00] <jake> guys whats the command to repair the adept?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix
[06:00] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:01] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: I'm trying to see if it's a underlying network issue
[06:01] <kgx> DaSkreech: if i do that, the file ends being called /var/log/accounts_mailer_$(date +%d).log (and not todays date as i want)
[06:01] <crackhead_25> http://pastebin.ca/501609
[06:01] <crackhead_25> crimsun: above
[06:01] <DaSkreech> kgx: Doh! I mean " " quotes :)
[06:02] <crackhead_25> it was working fine, until yesterday when i played some corrupted video file, i think
[06:02] <DaSkreech> So any suggestions why you could resolve a websites name, ping it but you can't get the HTML ?
[06:03] <crimsun> crackhead_25: do you have a crippled SBLive or SB Audigy?
[06:03] <crackhead_25> the soundcard is an audigy
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Is it a Vietnam Vet?
[06:04] <jake> thanks
[06:04] <crimsun> crackhead_25: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}')&&sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state&&sudo modprobe snd-ca0106
[06:04] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: If another torrent site plugin works let me know
[06:05] <crackhead_25> crimsun: can you make a pastebin of exactly the commands in what order i should run?
[06:05] <crackhead_25> (im kind of new to this)
[06:05] <kyah2004> Daskreech: bittorrent sorks
[06:05] <crimsun> crackhead_25: I gave you the precise command. Just copy and paste it into a konsole.
[06:05] <crackhead_25> oh ok
[06:05] <crackhead_25> seemed really long..
[06:06] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: the only one or you tried others?
[06:06] <kyah2004> Daskreech: isohunt wokrs as well
[06:06] <DaSkreech> ...
[06:06] <DaSkreech> so.. it doesn't seem to be a network issue
[06:06] <crackhead_25> ok, i ran it.. now the k menu bar /tool bar at the bottom of the screen has disappeared ha.. what do i do now?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Flow right?
[06:07] <crimsun> crackhead_25: that's ok, that's just the mixer.  You can readd it by starting KMix.
[06:07] <kyah2004> Daskreech: no c&w
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Oh..
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Well I'm C& W as well... assuming they didn't gain b***s when I was on vacation
[06:08] <crackhead_25> no, the whole tool bar disappeared.. not just thekmixer
[06:08] <crimsun> crackhead_25: ah. Just log out and back in, then.
[06:08] <DaSkreech> crackhead_25: type in kicker & in the konsole
[06:08] <crackhead_25> thanks.. ok, it's back
[06:08] <crackhead_25> kicke rworked
[06:08] <crimsun> you may have some arts weirdness until the logout/-in cycle; shouldn't really matter.
[06:08] <crackhead_25> crimsun: now what about the sound?
[06:08] <crackhead_25> should i test it somehow?
[06:09] <crimsun> crackhead_25: well, test it.  ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav''
[06:09] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: I wonder if they are doing one of thier blackouts..
[06:09] <crackhead_25> the test produced this error..
[06:09] <kgx> DaSkreech: that didnt work either. in works on the command line but not in cron. the cron log shows that it clips off just before the % sign: cron_BatchEmailInvoices.php > "/var/log/accounts_mailer_$(date + )
[06:09] <kyah2004> Daskreech: i doubt it bcuz i just test it on a windows machine
[06:10] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: :-) Good I was hoping you wouldn't have to reboot
[06:10] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: ok lets give Ktorrent the benefit of it being lazy coding :)
[06:10] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Close it and reopen and see if it reloads the plugin
[06:10] <crackhead_25> wait a min.. maybe it worked after all. .the test you gave iddnt work.. butttt.. i think im hearing sound from something else.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> and see if torrentspy works
[06:10] <kyah2004> Daskreech: ok cool
[06:11] <kgx> DaSkreech: i'll try escaping it and then try...
[06:11] <DaSkreech> kgx: Oh good idea
[06:11] <DaSkreech> What does it come up as when you have it plain?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> cat killing minds everywhere want to know
[06:12] <kgx> same as before, it clips it before the % sign: php4 -f cron_BatchEmailInvoices.php > "/var/log/accounts_mailer_$(date + )
[06:12] <crackhead_25> crimsun: nah, false alarm.. didnt work.. im getting sound on firefox.. but not through something like kaffeine.. if i go try to play a movie there, it doesnt work.. visual works, but audio doesn't..
[06:13] <kgx> DaSkreech: escaping the % sign worked :)
[06:13] <crimsun> crackhead_25: that's just flash 9 and firefox hogging the sound device. Not much can be done currently. Just close firefox.
[06:13] <kgx> didnt know it was something special in cron
[06:13] <crackhead_25> crimsun: how do i log out/back in so that when i log back in all the windows that were previously open will open again exactly as they were?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Why does Flash do that?
[06:13] <crimsun> DaSkreech: shrug.
[06:13] <DaSkreech> crimsun: oh wait not FOSS...
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Sorry about that
[06:13] <crimsun> it's closed source, so I can't fix it.
[06:15] <kyah2004> Daskreech: hey skreech i appreciate ur help a lot man really thanks a million but i think this is where i install windows. i have geven linux a week or more man and it hasnt come thru
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Ok then
[06:15] <DaSkreech> cool :)
[06:16] <DaSkreech> I'd want to find out why it's not loading that one site :(
[06:16] <carutsu> kyah2004: going back to windows, eh, what went wrong?
[06:16] <kyah2004> Daskreech: i was feeling adventurous but not again star maybe later when windows crashes 2 times on me in a month
[06:17] <DaSkreech> It won't load torrentspy.com
[06:17] <nirmal> kyah2004: Linux is easy than windows
[06:17] <kyah2004> nor me other flash stuff
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Well youtube works now
[06:17] <carutsu> kyah2004: flash is what is wrong?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> What other flash site is broken?
[06:17] <carutsu> kyah2004: have you installed the nonfree plug in?
[06:17] <kyah2004> yeh man flash not running in firefox properly only youtube works
[06:18] <kyah2004> yep
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Only youtube?
[06:18] <carutsu> !flash-nonfree
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <carutsu> !flasjh
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flasjh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <carutsu> !flash
[06:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:18] <DaSkreech> That's stranger than nothing working.
[06:18] <carutsu> !info flash-nonfree
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Which other site won't work?
[06:18] <ubotu> Package flash-nonfree does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:18] <dwidmann> kyah2004: you were having trouble getting it off adobe's site yesterday, how'd you get past that?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> carutsu: It's flashplugin-nonfree and he said he has it installed already
[06:18] <kyah2004> i had to download it from a windows machine
[06:19] <dwidmann> Odd
[06:19] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: see it's stuff like that makes me think that it's a network issue
[06:19] <carutsu> kyah2004: you downloaded what from a windows machine?
[06:19] <DaSkreech> But everytime I ask him to go to a site it works fine ...
[06:19] <mokkan> hey, does anyone know where i can get a package for blender 2.44?
[06:19] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: same
[06:19] <DaSkreech> carutsu: the flash plgin
[06:19] <kyah2004> even that is another reason for not bothering, some download sites dont work like that one
[06:19] <mokkan> amd64
[06:19] <DaSkreech> !info blender
[06:19] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.43-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 7120 kB, installed size 18600 kB
[06:19] <kyah2004> and the downloads are moving too slow
[06:19] <carutsu> DaSkreech: omg, why did he do that?! he can only apt-get it
[06:20] <DaSkreech> carutsu: no he can't. that's the problem we are trying to fix
[06:20] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: See? network again
[06:20] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: like 56 k speeds?
[06:20] <carutsu> DaSkreech: he! that's weird, I have installed it on several machines now, mmm, double checked the sources.list?
[06:20] <kyah2004> yep man
[06:20] <DaSkreech> or just not what you are used to
[06:20] <DaSkreech> carutsu: Thrice
[06:20] <wolferine> once I have apache2 and php5 installed, and I want to offer my /home/user dir, is there a quick script I can run to setup the apache.cong/httpd.conf, to allow it?
[06:21] <kraut> moin
[06:21] <DaSkreech> hi kraut
[06:21] <dwidmann> Sounds more like perhaps a DNS issue or something
[06:21] <carutsu> DaSkreech: he has to have the weirdest problem i've ever seen, normally the problems have a reason
[06:21] <DaSkreech> carutsu: tell me about it :)
[06:21] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: huh?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: he can resolve
[06:21] <dwidmann> Can't even get through to some really odd things
[06:21] <DaSkreech> it just moves slow
[06:22] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: Yeah but they all resolve
[06:22] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: sometimes it doens't move at all
[06:22] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: You have a dhcp at home right?
[06:22] <dwidmann> or so he said ... he said wget just sat at 0%
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Oh missed that one
[06:22] <kyah2004> Daskreech: yeh
[06:22] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: yes, that was while you were gone, last night
[06:23] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Direct from the Modem or from a router in between?
[06:23] <kyah2004> Daskreech: well we have a switch that gives a dynamic IP locally
[06:24] <DaSkreech> and What does it feed out as it's DNS ?
[06:24] <kyah2004> Daskreech: not sure what u mean
[06:25] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: You can check in System Settings -> Network settings -> Network Connections -> Domain name system
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Alt+space -> system to get to system settings
[06:26] <DaSkreech> On the domain name servers tab you should have a section that says Domain Name servers with at least one ip in it
[06:26] <kyah2004> Daskreech: what u want to know the ip address
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Gimmie the ip
[06:26] <DaSkreech> it's probably 192.168.0.1
[06:26] <DaSkreech> or some such
[06:27] <kyah2004> no 200.10.252.232
[06:27] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: change that to 200.10.152.232
[06:27] <kyah2004> no 200.10.152.232
[06:27] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[06:27] <kyah2004> yeh thats what it is
[06:28] <DaSkreech> ok I'm changing mine to match yours
[06:28] <wolferine> once I have apache2 and php5 installed, and I want to offer my /home/user dir, there is a quick script I can run to set it up called userdir.load, how do I add that into apache?
[06:28] <mokkan> hm
[06:28] <kyah2004> Daskreech: cool, i hope these guys cant hack me at that address
[06:28] <mokkan> arent you supposed to be able to right click on .deb's and install them like that?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> no but C&W should be shivering :)
[06:29] <dwidmann> I think the DNS is fetched from the modem, and each IP has one.
[06:29] <kyah2004> Daskreech: haha, shiver me timbers :-)
[06:29] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[06:29] <dwidmann> *ISP
[06:29] <DaSkreech> can't load torrentspy.com
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Wait it is
[06:29] <DaSkreech> just slow
[06:29] <DaSkreech> ...
[06:30] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: That's the DNS for the ISP
[06:30] <dwidmann> if you want to try to resolve with a DNS without actually changing yours to it, try using hostname or dig or something, I forget, but at least one of those has an option for specifying what DNS server it's using
[06:31] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Torrentspy.com search in ktorrent doesn't work you say?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> it came up for me just took a while
[06:31] <wolferine> once I have apache2 and php5 installed, and I want to offer my /home/user dir, there is a quick script I can run to set it up called userdir.load, how do I add that into apache?
[06:32] <kyah2004> Daskreech: it cant be added
[06:33] <kyah2004> Daskreech: i get an error message saying bad url
[06:33] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: What?
[06:33] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: even though it's the one for the ISP, it's also what would be listed in resolvconf
[06:33] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: where are you adding it?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: tell me what you are doing from opening ktorrent
[06:34] <kyah2004> Daskreech: Preferences -> search section
[06:34] <hendaus> brian_:  somebody help me please
[06:34] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: ooh
[06:34] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Whats the URl you put in?
[06:35] <kyah2004> Daskreech: i think i see the problem. i just clicked the update from internet option
[06:35] <DaSkreech> have to admit I never tried that before :)
[06:35] <kyah2004> Daskreech: and torrentspy option loaded
[06:35] <DaSkreech>  Yeah I was going to suggest that but again never tried that before :)
[06:35] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Sweet
[06:35] <DaSkreech> ok now tell me if you get hits
[06:36] <hendaus>   somebody help me please , after upgrading to edgy i got this --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21935/
[06:36] <kyah2004> Daskreech: seems like is because i didnt add foobar and some other foolishness to the web url thats why it never work
[06:36] <mokkan> does anybody know where i could get a ubuntu package for blender 2.44 (amd64) ?
[06:36] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Yeah it does a drop in replacement
[06:36] <DaSkreech> !info blender
[06:36] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.43-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 7120 kB, installed size 18600 kB
[06:36] <dwidmann> hmm, a new version of opera is out
[06:36] <DaSkreech> mokkan: It's in universe
[06:37] <mokkan> DaSkreech how do i access universe? in adept manager?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> !universe
[06:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:37] <DaSkreech> mokkan: ^^^
[06:38] <kyah2004> Daskreech: it not loading same way though
[06:38] <hendaus>   somebody help me please , after upgrading to edgy i got this --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21935/ , please!!!!
[06:38] <DaSkreech> hendaus: you have a future date on your lists
[06:38] <|lostbyte|> what is a file descriptor ?
[06:38] <slicknick> so i have a DVD that i want to turn into a bootable .iso that i can load in vmware.  any suggestions?
[06:39] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  what do u mean?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> hendaus: http://my.opera.com/render/blog/show.dml/337121
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Should help
[06:39] <kyah2004> alright guys see yah later i'll play with linux another time
[06:39] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: black screen?
[06:39] <kyah2004> Daskreech: no white
[06:39] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21935/ <-- look at this please
[06:40] <Jack31> how might I add a command that will be ran upon reboot?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> hendaus: I just did and I gave you http://my.opera.com/render/blog/show.dml/337121
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Jack31: every reboot?
[06:40] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  i am newbie on this friend, can u help me please
[06:40] <wolferine> nm, I got it
[06:40] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Ok man. If you bring your computer over some day I'll run a live cd on it and see if I can figure it out
[06:41] <DaSkreech> hendaus: thats a newbie friendly page :)
[06:41] <kyah2004> alright thanks skreech
[06:41] <mokkan> DaSkreech thank you :)
[06:41] <kyah2004> later all
[06:41] <|lostbyte|> what is the diff when passing text through a "|" than from "<" ?
[06:41] <Jack31> DaSkreech, yes
[06:41] <Jack31> Daskreech, or startup, whatever
[06:41] <Jack31> just so it loads when ubuntu loads
[06:41] <DaSkreech> kyah2004: Still thinking it's a network error :( which means I should come to your house
[06:42] <DaSkreech> |lostbyte|: | is a pipe < is a redirector
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Jack31: When Gnome loads or when Ubuntu loads ?
[06:42] <Jack31> daskreech, well,  i use kubuntu, but i just want to add te command to my startupscripts
[06:43] <Ichilegend> | and < are subtle differences as DaSkreech mentioned
[06:43] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: Stranger and curiouser
[06:43] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  su  returned with an error --> this happen when i click adjust date &time
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Jack31: You can add it to your rc.local file
[06:43] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Hmm
[06:43] <Jack31> daskreech, where is that?
[06:43] <|lostbyte|> yes, how is it diff, in case of input ? if i want to restrict use of one only ?
[06:43] <Jack31> ~/rc.local ?
[06:44] <DaSkreech>  /etc/rc.local
[06:44] <Ichilegend> jack31 in kde you can add a script to ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:44] <Jack31> oh
[06:44] <DaSkreech> |lostbyte|: One is a pipe it converts standard output to standard input
[06:44] <|lostbyte|> for one < takes the data on the right as "standard input".
[06:45] <DaSkreech> so the output of one command becomes the input for the one on the other side
[06:45] <DaSkreech> One turns a file into standard input
[06:45] <DaSkreech> so it converts the contents of a file on the drive so that a program thinks that you are typing it in
[06:45] <mokkan> DaSkreech, it still only wants to install 2.43.. any ideas?
[06:46] <|lostbyte|> DaSkreech, then why doest cat file.txt | read var            wrok ?
[06:46] <Jack31> Daskreech, if i just add timidity -iA -B8,2 -Os to the rclocal file before the exit 0, it will be ran at startup?
[06:46] <|lostbyte|> for example !
[06:46] <|lostbyte|> DaSkreech, But read var < file.txt works.
[06:46] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Gimmie a second
[06:47] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  ok
[06:47] <DaSkreech> |lostbyte|: read is a strange case
[06:47] <|lostbyte|> ahh, lol
[06:48] <DaSkreech> hendaus: What was the first error from?
[06:48] <Jack31> Ichilegend: how would i create the script, something like midi.sh and add timidity -iA -B8,2 -Os to it?
[06:49] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  on the clock i click on adjust date &time and it shows an error message
[06:49] <DaSkreech> a dist-upgrade or an update ?
[06:49] <Jack31> how do i create a script for a command to run at the konsole?
[06:50] <DaSkreech> hendaus: of course it does. Why should life be simple :)
[06:50] <DaSkreech> hendaus: I assume you want to fix this without rebooting?
[06:50] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  i dont know but i type this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:50] <navets> anyone here experienced with virutal operating systems
[06:50] <DaSkreech> hendaus: and it somehow broke sudo
[06:50] <navets>  im trying to install mac os X tiger with with virtual software. I want to know if you can open a .dmg file as a .iso file
[06:50] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  ok how please
[06:51] <DaSkreech> hendaus: I'm trying to formulate one that won't make you reboot
[06:51] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: see this is where having root comes in handy :(
[06:51] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  thank u
[06:52] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  so edgy done completely?
[06:52] <jake> guys how can i change my log in screen?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> mokkan: looks like yuo may have to sit ight
[06:52] <mokkan> :\
[06:52] <DaSkreech> No packages out yet
[06:54] <mokkan> i found a .deb in the debian repositories, but they need a slightly higher version of libc
[06:54] <DaSkreech> mokkan: not worth it
[06:54] <mokkan> yeah i sorta figured
[06:55] <DaSkreech> hendaus: try sudo -K
[06:55] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  ok
[06:55] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 22 07:47:02 2007
[06:56] <DaSkreech> ha ha of course
[06:56] <DaSkreech> hendaus: do you have a live CD?
[06:56] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  what is live cd?
[06:56] <mokkan> i guess i could make my own package, but that would suck
[06:57] <DaSkreech> hendaus: You are using Kubuntu?
[06:57] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  yes
[06:57] <DaSkreech> mokkan: not as bad as you think if you need 2.44
[06:57] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Did you install it?
[06:57] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  i have kubuntu cd installation dapper
[06:57] <firecrotch> !kernel
[06:57] <mokkan> well i run a 64 bit system, and blender just became 64 bit compatible in 2.44
[06:57] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:57] <DaSkreech> it boots into a desktop?
[06:57] <mokkan> so i guess it is sorta important
[06:58] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  it boots from cdrom
[06:58] <DaSkreech> mokkan: Yeah but I see that it still has some outstanding 64 bit bugs in the Launchpad
[06:58] <DaSkreech> hendaus: That is a live CD
[06:58] <DaSkreech> hendaus: could you boot that up and then come back here?
[06:58] <DaSkreech> mokkan: you could offer some help in #ubuntu-motu I guess
[06:59] <DaSkreech> See if you can help speed things along
[06:59] <mokkan> how could i help them?
[06:59] <|lostbyte|> DaSkreech, ok, here is what's diff. | is a stdout while < is stdin. And read takes only stdin. So, its not a strange case. :)
[06:59] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  u mean insert the cd another time and let it boot from cd and then installation?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> |lostbyte|: sort of :)
[06:59] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Yes but don't install
[07:00] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  ok wait
[07:00] <DaSkreech> hendaus: when the cd comes up go to the menu and internet then Konversation and come here
[07:00] <DaSkreech> ask for me so I know that it's you :)
[07:00] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  after booting what option shuold i hit ?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Menu -> Internet -> Konversation
[07:01] <DaSkreech> (irc client)
[07:01] <matt001> Hi!
[07:02] <ejupin> Can someone help me get KDE going again, I can only start Gnome
[07:02] <hitmanWilly> ok all, gotta work tomorrow, so sleep it is :)
[07:02] <slicknick> any ideas how to turn this hfs+ formatted mac os x install dvd to boot in vmware ?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Install parallels?
[07:03] <dwidmann> work? Ohhhhhhhh, that thing between sleep and more sleep
[07:03] <matt001> One of my programs crashed and I summitted a bug report, however I've got an email back saying "** Tags added: need-i386-retrace" does anyone know what this means?
[07:03] <slicknick> DaSkreech : linux host
[07:04] <RadiantFire> ejupin: whats the problem?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> matt001: It means you don't need to submit the bug report again
[07:04] <matt001> thank you DaSkreech
[07:05] <ejupin> RadiantFire:I get the log in screen, it attempts to boot up. I get to the desktop, but nothing is there but the generic kbuntu wallpaper
[07:05] <DaSkreech> in short
[07:05] <ejupin> RadiantFire: Gnome works perfectly
[07:05] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  back
[07:05] <RadiantFire> hmm...
[07:05] <DaSkreech> hendaus: on the Cd?
[07:06] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  yes
[07:06] <DaSkreech> hendaus: ok We are going to load your hard drive
[07:06] <albertmk> Can anyone tell me where I have to type "apt-get install..."?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> hendaus: can you open a konsole and type mkdir drive
[07:06] <RadiantFire> ejupin: is there anything in $HOME/.xsession-errors
[07:06] <DaSkreech> albertmk: In the konsole
[07:06] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  ok then
[07:06] <albertmk> Yes, I know it
[07:07] <albertmk> But in which folder?
[07:07] <DaSkreech> albertmk: doesn't matter
[07:07] <albertmk> ok, thanks!
[07:08] <DaSkreech> hendaus: how many hard drives do you have?
[07:08] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  2
[07:08] <ejupin> RadiantFire: Never been there.. in terminal?
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Ok do you know which one Linux is on?
[07:08] <RadiantFire> its just a text file in your home directory
[07:08] <RawSewage> Does Kubuntu use Linux
[07:08] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  yes hda1
[07:08] <RadiantFire> but the . means its hidden
[07:09] <RadiantFire> you can open it if you do the show hidden files
[07:09] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Ok sudo mount /dev/hda1 drive
[07:09] <DaSkreech> sudo should work now
[07:09] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  ok i type password
[07:10] <DaSkreech> hendaus: It asked you for a password?
[07:10] <hendaus> yes
[07:10] <DaSkreech> ?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> umm
[07:10] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:10] <DaSkreech> It's not supposed to
[07:11] <DaSkreech> It accepted the password?
[07:11] <hendaus> yes
[07:11] <DaSkreech> o.0
[07:11] <DaSkreech> well
[07:11] <DaSkreech> if it works
[07:12] <DaSkreech> ls drive/ and check that it has a var folder
[07:12] <ejupin> RadiantFire: Doesnt appear to be anything there
[07:12] <RadiantFire> hmmm...
[07:12] <ejupin> Can I remove and install KDE again in apt?
[07:12] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  i open drive and it contains folders
[07:13] <RadiantFire> i'm not sure if that would help
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Does it have a var folder?
[07:13] <RadiantFire> ejupin: one thing that might help if it is a kde misconfiguration is to move the .kde folder in your home directory to something like .kde-backup
[07:13] <hendaus> yes
[07:13] <ejupin> I'm getting used to Gnome :) but have never been a huge fan, prefer kde
[07:13] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  yes
[07:13] <RadiantFire> that way, you would know if something in kde is glitched in configs
[07:13] <ejupin> yep
[07:14] <emiliano75> goodmorning chsnnel :-)
[07:14] <DaSkreech> ok there should be a drive/var/run/sudo/hendaus file
[07:14] <emiliano75> channel... sorry
[07:14] <RadiantFire> aside from that, I can't thnk of anything else that could cause that
[07:14] <RawSewage> I think Shuttleworth should be focusing more on Kubuntu
[07:14] <DaSkreech> hendaus: delete that file :)
[07:14] <RawSewage> just my opinion
[07:14] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: Why?
[07:15] <RawSewage> it's more advanced and configurable.  more features.  Windows users would feel more at home
[07:15] <RawSewage> plus KDE4 is coming
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Yeah but Ubuntu has mind share
[07:15] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  there is no sudo/hendaus
[07:15] <RawSewage> DaSkreech, you mean larger development community?
[07:15] <dwidmann> mind share? what's that?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: that too
[07:16] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: That's Microsoft's life blood
[07:16] <RawSewage> what is mind share
[07:16] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: but more people know about Ubuntu
[07:16] <RawSewage> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_share
[07:16] <RadiantFire> it does make me sad that KDE is falling behind, when it is superior, but this is all talk for #ubuntu-offtopic/#kubuntu-offtopic
[07:16] <DaSkreech> if I try and google a issue it's much more likely to have an Ubuntu solution than a Kubuntu solution
[07:16] <RawSewage> Im not allowed in the Ubuntu channels because of my name
[07:16] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  /home/hendaus/drive/var/run ,, alsa cups,dbus hal hplip klogd screen
[07:17] <RadiantFire> actually, most of the solutions seem to be terminal solutions
[07:17] <RadiantFire> DaSkreech: that could also be a sign KDE has fewer problems :-)
[07:17] <mokkan> kde4 is due out soon anyway
[07:17] <DaSkreech> hendaus: no sudo folder ?
[07:18] <RadiantFire> ejupin: anyway, I wish you luck, aside from some wonkiness with configs, I have no other ideas
[07:18] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  no
[07:18] <DaSkreech> hendaus: hmm ok Let me check something else before you reboot
[07:18] <ejupin> RadiantFire: Thanks, guess im stuck with Gnome, cause I really dont want to do another clean reinstall
[07:18] <hendaus> folders name ->  alsa cups,dbus hal hplip klogd screen
[07:18] <RadiantFire> ejupin: one last idea
[07:19] <ejupin> I think Im going back to Suse actually, had more bugs with feisty than any other distro i have used
[07:19] <RadiantFire> ejupin: do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then issue the xinit startkde command from a terminal and see what happens
[07:19] <RadiantFire> ejupin: that should give you terminal output if the loading stalls
[07:19] <stk_> how to mount a drive via command?
[07:19] <ejupin> RadiantFire: will try, ty!
[07:20] <RadiantFire> stk_: pmount /dev/<insert drive name here>
[07:21] <DaSkreech> hendaus: you still have a konsole open?
[07:21] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  yes
[07:21] <DaSkreech> hendaus: type chroot ~/drive
[07:22] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  chroot: cannot change root directory to /home/hendaus/drive: Operation not permitted
[07:22] <DaSkreech> sudo chroot ~/drive
[07:22] <stk_> not working..
[07:22] <RadiantFire> stk_: what error does it give?
[07:22] <DaSkreech> stk_:  where are you mounting it to?
[07:23] <RadiantFire> chroot needs a shell inside the chroot to execute
[07:23] <stk_> could not find /dev/hdb5
[07:23] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  root@hendaus:/#
[07:23] <RadiantFire> you won't be able to chroot into ~/drive unless /bin/bash is floating around in there
[07:23] <DaSkreech> ok sudo ls /var
[07:23] <RadiantFire> stk_: that means that you have the wrong name
[07:23] <RadiantFire> you sure its the 5th partition on your 2nd harddrive?
[07:24] <stk_> yes.
[07:24] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  backups  cache  lib  local  lock  log  mail  opt  run  spool  tmp
[07:24] <RadiantFire> an easy way to look for devices is to issue the command ls /dev/h*
[07:25] <DaSkreech> sudo ls /var/run
[07:25] <RadiantFire> stk_: ubuntu has gotten weird with drive namings in recent versions, it could also be /dev/sdb5
[07:25] <RadiantFire> stk_: actually, is it an external harddrive?
[07:25] <RadiantFire> stk_: pmount won't mount internal harddisks for security reasnos
[07:26] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  alsa  cups  dbus  hal  hplip  klogd  screen  utmp
[07:26] <stk_> internal. I was using it in windows. But suddenly it didn't work there.. So I'm trying to recover data from that harddrive.
[07:26] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Ok I think that you should be ok to reboot back into your machine now
[07:26] <DaSkreech> hendaus: let me know if that doesn't work
[07:26] <RadiantFire> your going to have to use the sudo mount command then stk_
[07:26] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  with the cd live?
[07:26] <albertmk> Can anyone help me with compilation please?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> hendaus: No just normally
[07:27] <albertmk> it is really important
[07:27] <RadiantFire> do something like sudo mkdir /mnt/hd; sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hd
[07:27] <DaSkreech> !compile
[07:27] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:27] <stk_> and how to do that?? :S
[07:27] <albertmk> ~/dev/cpp/openmodeller/build$ make
[07:27] <albertmk> make[2] : *** No rule to make target `/build/buildd/gdal-1.3.2/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libgdal1.3.2.so', needed by `src/openmodeller/libopenmodeller.so'.  Stop.
[07:27] <albertmk> make[1] : *** [src/openmodeller/CMakeFiles/openmodeller.dir/all]  Error 2
[07:27] <albertmk> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[07:27] <RadiantFire> stk_: copy from the first sudo to the end of the line into the terminal and execute
[07:27] <RadiantFire> !pastebin | albertmk
[07:27] <ubotu> albertmk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:27] <albertmk> Does anyone know what's the problem?
[07:28] <stk_> Sudo??
[07:28] <albertmk> sudo make also doesnt work
[07:28] <RadiantFire> albertmk: try make cleaning first
[07:28] <DaSkreech> albertmk: did you do a ./configure ?
[07:28] <RadiantFire> there might be a problem with the configure
[07:28] <RadiantFire> as well
[07:29] <albertmk> there is no configure file for that
[07:29] <RadiantFire> oh, its cmake
[07:29] <RadiantFire> i knownothing about cmake
[07:30] <albertmk> yes , it is cmake
[07:30] <albertmk> :(
[07:30] <DaSkreech> albertmk: does it have a INSTALL file?
[07:30] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  back
[07:30] <albertmk> it does have a install file
[07:30] <stk_> RadiantFire, Sudo???
[07:30] <DaSkreech> albertmk: did you read it?
[07:30] <albertmk> I read it like 5 times, downloaded the packs... nothing work
[07:30] <RadiantFire> stk_: yeah, sudo, it gains super user priveldges
[07:30] <RadiantFire> stk_: try runing this command
[07:31] <RadiantFire> sudo mkdir /mnt/hd; sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hd
[07:31] <RadiantFire> stk_: that should mount your drive at /mnt/hd if it can be mounted
[07:31] <RadiantFire> stk_: because internal drives require admin access
[07:31] <DaSkreech> albertmk: pastebin the install file
[07:31] <albertmk> What do you mean?
[07:32] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  did i upgrade edgy lost on kubuntu?
[07:32] <DaSkreech> You are on dapper now?
[07:32] <albertmk> I dont know what is a dapper
[07:32] <albertmk> I am trying to compile and run openModeller software
[07:32] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  ah ok, but upgrading edgy , it needs to upgrade from begining or not?
[07:33] <stk_> It says I havn't acces :S
[07:33] <DaSkreech> !pastebin | albertmk
[07:33] <ubotu> albertmk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:33] <DaSkreech> hendaus: You are on dapper now?
[07:34] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  yes
[07:34] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:34] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get update
[07:34] <stk_> RadiantFire, It says that I don't have acces, when I'm trying to acces it.
[07:35] <albertmk> My steps:
[07:35] <albertmk> cmake ..
[07:35] <albertmk> sudo make
[07:35] <albertmk> problems apper:
[07:36] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  everything done
[07:36] <albertmk> ~/dev/cpp/openmodeller/build$ make
[07:36] <albertmk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21939/
[07:37] <DaSkreech> hendaus: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:38] <albertmk> Did you read it DaSkreech?
[07:38] <stk_> How to change accest to a folder??
[07:38] <tahsin> can anyone help me install grub boot splash ?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> albertmk: Needs a make target
[07:39] <DaSkreech> pastebin the install file
[07:39] <albertmk> ok dude
[07:39] <albertmk> wait a sec
[07:40] <tahsin> can anyone help me install grub boot splash ?
[07:40] <yuriy> !aptfix
[07:40] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:40] <stk_> How to change accest to a folder??
[07:40] <albertmk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21940/
[07:41] <stk_> How to acces locked folders+
[07:41] <tahsin> ubotu can u help me install a grub splash screen?
[07:41] <albertmk> http://openmodeller.cria.org.br/wikis/om/HowToCompileOnLinux   --> manual
[07:43] <stk_> How to change acces to a folder that are locked by owner root ;S?
[07:43] <DaSkreech> albertmk: is there an autogen.sh ?
[07:44] <albertmk> there is
[07:44] <yuriy> stk_: if you want to do it graphically, you can do kdesu konqueror and then just right click on the folder and do it there
[07:44] <yuriy> stk_: or you can use sudo chmod
[07:44] <yuriy> !chmod
[07:44] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[07:44] <albertmk> DaSkreech: There is "autogen.sh"
[07:45] <DaSkreech> albertmk: did you run it?
[07:45] <albertmk> How?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> ./autogen.sh
[07:47] <albertmk> Problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21942/
[07:47] <stk_> yuiri how to it with sudo chmod??
[07:48] <brian_> anyone alive currecntly
[07:50] <stk_> Yuiri there?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> albertmk: did you install build-essentials?
[07:50] <tahsin> stk_ can you help me install boot splash theme ?
[07:50] <albertmk> Yes , I did.
[07:50] <stk_> no, sry...
[07:51] <albertmk> by Adept Manager
[07:51] <brian_> im proud to say i use linux now more than windows
[07:51] <tahsin> DaSkreech can you help me install boot splash theme ?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> tahsin: Where did you get it from?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> albertmk: and you have no automake
[07:52] <tahsin> DaSkreech www.kde-look.org
[07:52] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: We need more people in #kubuntu helping in any case :)
[07:52] <albertmk> No automake :(
[07:52] <RawSewage> DaSkreech, heping with what
[07:52] <DaSkreech> tahsin: Should have instructions
[07:52] <RawSewage> DaSkreech, oh
[07:52] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: Problems
[07:52] <albertmk> I spent my all day to make it work.
[07:53] <DaSkreech> albertmk: see if you have automake 1.9 installed
[07:53] <albertmk> ok
[07:53] <tahsin> DaSkreecim a newbie so dont understant them ...they are complicated
[07:53] <albertmk> I do not have it installed, and I am installing it
[07:54] <albertmk> Linux is really dificcult when you are newbie. Windows is easier hehe.
[07:54] <tahsin> albertmk is right
[07:55] <stk_> Anyone that can help me change acces to a folder?
[07:55] <RadiantFire> right click on the folder
[07:55] <RadiantFire> select properties
[07:56] <RadiantFire> the permissions tab has access controls
[07:56] <stk_> then?
[07:56] <stk_> there are no permissoon tab...
[07:56] <RadiantFire> what folder are you trying to change
[07:57] <DaSkreech> albertmk: Freedom normally doesn't mean easier
[07:57] <RadiantFire> there should aways be a permissions
[07:57] <albertmk> DaSkreech: Really.
[07:57] <albertmk> DaSkreech:
[07:57] <stk_> That folder I mounted... in the mnt folder
[07:57] <RadiantFire> albertmk: it doesn't necessarily mean harder either
[07:57] <albertmk> DaSkreech: But freedom for few ppl ^^
[07:57] <RadiantFire> stk_: do you know what the filesystem type is?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> albertmk: forces you to make choices :)
[07:58] <stk_> no...
[07:58] <RadiantFire> stk_: some filesystems don't support permissions
[07:58] <RadiantFire> can you not access the folder?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> But once you know waht you want then it's much easier and much better
[07:58] <stk_> no.. It's says you don't have permission.
[07:58] <albertmk> Oh yeah, pro ppl take advantage with Linux.
[07:58] <RadiantFire> oh, stk_ sudo umount the folder
[07:59] <RadiantFire> then do sudo -o umask=0000 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hd
[07:59] <RadiantFire> er
[07:59] <RadiantFire> whoops
[07:59] <RadiantFire> sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hd
[07:59] <DaSkreech> albertmk: there is a libtool error there. I don't know what that is
[07:59] <RadiantFire> sorry, forgot about that
[07:59] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  it stills upgrading, it shows unpacking and installing, lol is it big?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> maybe one of the dependeices
[07:59] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Huuuuuge
[07:59] <albertmk> hmm.. I have installed many libs that I cannot remember all them.
[07:59] <RadiantFire> albertmk: I don't think you have those files installed
[07:59] <RadiantFire> albertmk: it seems to think you don't
[08:00] <albertmk> Which files you mean?
[08:00] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  is it necessary to keep the cd live on the cdrom when upgrading or not?
[08:00] <RadiantFire> albertmk: see what happens if you apt-get install autotool-dev automake and libtool
[08:00] <DaSkreech> hendaus: No
[08:00] <RadiantFire> then try again
[08:00] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Are tyou on the CD now?
[08:00] <hendaus> ah ok
[08:01] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  no
[08:01] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Oh good :)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> that scared me
[08:01] <albertmk> it doesnt find autotool-dev
[08:01] <RadiantFire> oh drats
[08:01] <RadiantFire> albertmk: hang on, I can't remember what the exact name is
[08:01] <albertmk> RadiantFire: It doesnt find autotool-dev
[08:01] <DaSkreech> autotools-dev
[08:01] <RadiantFire> yes, thats it
[08:01] <albertmk> ok
[08:02] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  i got error
[08:02] <leotr> hi all. I am trying to install HP LJ1018 printer, seems like it has been installed (i manuallyt specified bus and device number in "hp-setup") when i give a command to print test page, it is queued, but no pages are printed
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Uh oh
[08:02] <albertmk> Is there any excelent book to understand Linux?
[08:02] <RadiantFire> there are a few out there
[08:02] <RadiantFire> I had Linux in Easy Steps, but that is more mandriva specific, and kind of autodated
[08:03] <albertmk> I see.
[08:03] <DaSkreech> The Ubuntu book is good
[08:03] <RadiantFire> omg, its actually mandrake specific, I feel old now...
[08:03] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  Errors were encountered while processing: debtags
[08:03] <stk_> Ok, I think I have acces now. But I'm using the command window. So how to copy files via command to another folder?
[08:03] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:04] <RadiantFire> stk_:  you can use the filebrowser just type /mnt/hd in the bar
[08:04] <RadiantFire> stk_: or you can use the cp command
[08:04] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg --configure -a hendaus
[08:04] <RadiantFire> stk_: its cp <target files> <destination folder>
[08:04] <albertmk> RadiantFire and DaSkreech: Same problems -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21943/
[08:04] <stk_> if i'm targeting a folder then?
[08:05] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  ok and then
[08:05] <RadiantFire> stk_: cp -r then
[08:05] <RadiantFire> it will -r(ecursively) copy everything
[08:05] <DaSkreech> hendaus: It's finished?
[08:05] <RadiantFire> iif your looking around, this is a useful guide to basic unix commands
[08:05] <RadiantFire> stk_: http://www.webmonkey.com/webmonkey/reference/unix_guide/
[08:05] <RadiantFire> always useful read
[08:05] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  yes
[08:06] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Hmm
[08:06] <RadiantFire> well, less errors :-)
[08:06] <RC-Needs-Help> hello everybody
[08:06] <DaSkreech> try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again
[08:06] <RadiantFire> albertmk: did you make clean already
[08:06] <stk_> cp /mnt/hd/ -r /home/stk/Desktop/Test    ,,, Is that right?
[08:06] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  dpkg: --configure --pending does not take any non-option arguments
[08:06] <RadiantFire> stk_: cp -r /mnt/hd/ /home/stk/Desktop/Test
[08:06] <RadiantFire> almost though
[08:06] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[08:06] <albertmk> HAHAHA!
[08:06] <RadiantFire> roflmao
[08:06] <albertmk> THANKS!
[08:06] <albertmk> XD
[08:07] <RadiantFire> albertmk: that worked?
[08:07] <albertmk> damn
[08:07] <albertmk> it seems so, but a error has just come
[08:07] <RadiantFire> thats funny
[08:07] <DaSkreech> hendaus: That's apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:07] <RadiantFire> it might be the same eror
[08:07] <albertmk> let me repeat
[08:07] <RadiantFire> just after rebuilding everything else
[08:07] <albertmk> now seems to be compiling
[08:08] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  yes
[08:08] <albertmk> at 32% the same error has come
[08:08] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  this show on the konsole when i type --> sudo dpkg --configure -a hendaus
[08:08] <belen_> hello *
[08:08] <wqy> hi
[08:08] <DaSkreech> hendaus: no. Take out the hendaus :-)
[08:08] <DaSkreech> sorry
[08:09] <belen_> ath0 not appear when i type ifconfig , why?
[08:09] <DaSkreech> try iwconfig
[08:09] <RadiantFire> belen_: it might be called eth0
[08:09] <RadiantFire> or wlan0
[08:09] <belen_> before, a lot month ago, i works well
[08:09] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded
[08:09] <RadiantFire> belen_: yeah, sometimes weirdness happens
[08:09] <belen_> DaSkreech: RadiantFire: not, it is ath0
[08:09] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  hendaus@hendaus:~$
[08:10] <albertmk> I am in trouble, I do not know why it doesn't work out
[08:10] <albertmk> RadiantFire, if you have sometime now, read it please http://openmodeller.cria.org.br/wikis/om/HowToCompileOnLinux
[08:10] <belen_> si a laptop ifconfig only show eth0 y lo, is a laptop
[08:10] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:10] <RadiantFire> sigh, I hate building
[08:10] <belen_> RadiantFire: DaSkreech: do u know please ?
[08:10] <RadiantFire> why isit so finicky
[08:11] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded.
[08:11] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  hendaus@hendaus:~$
[08:11] <RadiantFire> belen_: try sudo modprobe ath_pci
[08:12] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  the first line says: Reading package lists... Done
[08:12] <DaSkreech> hendaus: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:13] <DaSkreech> RadiantFire: Sorry gotta hit the bed
[08:13] <DaSkreech> See you tomorrow
[08:13] <RadiantFire> toodles
[08:13] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  on konqueror i am getting error :(
[08:13] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Good night
[08:14] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  An error occurred while loading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/:
[08:14] <hendaus> oh u are sleepy :)
[08:14] <DaSkreech> hendaus: can you load anyother site?
[08:14] <brian_> im sleepy but wide awake
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[08:14] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  the same
[08:14] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[08:15] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[08:15] <DaSkreech> hendaus: sudo apt-get remove konqueror && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:15] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[08:15] <RadiantFire> wow, thats weird
[08:15] <belen_> my card is a atheros
[08:15] <DaSkreech> RadiantFire: What is?
[08:15] <RadiantFire> unable to load the ioslaves
[08:15] <brian_> i hate my laptop its to comfertable to be online all day
[08:16] <RadiantFire> belen_: did you try to sudo modprobe ath_pci
[08:16] <DaSkreech> RadiantFire: Middle of a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy and it broke
[08:16] <DaSkreech> still has 27 packages to install
[08:17] <RadiantFire> what package did it fail on?
[08:17] <RadiantFire> sometimes removing that package will fix it
[08:17] <DaSkreech> DOn't know
[08:17] <RadiantFire> I failed an upgrade from breezy to dapper and that fixed it
[08:17] <DaSkreech> Not really awake enough to pay attnetion
[08:17] <RadiantFire> what does sudo apt-get -f install do?
[08:17] <DaSkreech> hendaus could probably rell tyou
[08:17] <RadiantFire> hendaus: what package did your upgrade fail on?
[08:17] <DaSkreech> hendaus: try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:17] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  no why remove konqueror and install desktop?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> hendaus: try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:18] <DaSkreech> hi intelikey :)
[08:18] <intelikey> hey,
[08:18] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  but on konsole is installing,??
[08:19] <DaSkreech> hendaus: It's installing now?
[08:19] <Aqutavia> im sure you guys are sick of getting these noob questions. but. here it goes anyhow. i got kubuntu on live dvd. i have dsl with a router. and static ip addresses. i can get the kubuntu to log into my router. but it cant see other computers or the modem. tips?
[08:19] <RadiantFire> Aqualyt: diid you set your DNS servers
[08:19] <ejupin> RadiantFire: If you are still here.. I got KDE working again thnx for help
[08:19] <RadiantFire> er, sorry Aqutavia did you set your DNS servers
[08:19] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  yes
[08:19] <intelikey> i'm having an issue with a gui and it's env.   seems i can't save changes to a file that is group writable and i'm in the group...   thoughts?
[08:19] <RadiantFire> ejupin: what was wrong with it?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> hendaus: Ok :) good night then :)
[08:19] <intelikey> groups | grep -owie root
[08:20] <intelikey> root
[08:20] <hendaus> DaSkreech:  goodnight :)
[08:20] <ejupin> RadiantFire: combination of a few things.. somehow some settings in graphics section got changed.. my vid card wasnt working right
[08:20] <hendaus> wb intelikey
[08:20] <intelikey> file is    -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 339 2007-05-22 00:12
[08:20] <Aqutavia> what should be in the dns server(s). i dont think i did. since i cant answer your question.
[08:20] <Aqutavia> i did try putting some ip's in there. but the ones i put in didnt change anything.
[08:21] <RadiantFire> ejupin: I'm glad you got it fixed
[08:21] <ejupin> RadiantFire: same here.. gnome is ok to play with, but its not home :)
[08:21] <intelikey> anyone ?
[08:21] <hendaus> intelikey:  still not finish edgy, many errors shown on konsole
[08:21] <RadiantFire> Aqutavia: DNS servers allow you to resolve domain names, i.e. www.google.com into IP addresses, generally with a static configuration you need to set some different DNS servers
[08:22] <RadiantFire> hendaus: did you do the apt-get install -f
[08:22] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  no coz somothing is installing now on konsole
[08:22] <Aqutavia> should i use those that are used with my modem? or something that is related to my lan?
[08:22] <intelikey> hendaus hmmm yeah,  like i cautioned you.  it's the openion of some that its easier to dl the iso and burn the install cd  than to do a dubble upgrade
[08:23] <RadiantFire> hendaus: ok, well, if it fails, try it
[08:23] <brian_> hendaus your still here?
[08:23] <RadiantFire> Aqutavia: modem is a good idea, probably
[08:23] <belen_> RadiantFire: yeah, Module ath_pci not found, install madwifi?
[08:23] <RadiantFire> Aqutavia: if that doesn't work, sometimes setting the router works
[08:23] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  thanx
[08:23] <belen_> RadiantFire: yeah, Module ath_pci not found, install madwifi?
[08:24] <hendaus> brian_:  yes :(
[08:24] <Aqutavia> alright. ill try that.
[08:24] <belen_> RadiantFire: thx
[08:24] <Aqutavia> you mean resetting the router?
[08:24] <RadiantFire> Aqutavia: no, I meant if your modem has DNS servers that "go with it" try setting those
[08:25] <Aqutavia> oh alright.
[08:25] <Aqutavia> well its auto configured. but i could use its current settings anyhow just to test it;)
[08:25] <belen_> RadiantFire: this laptop before works good, but one day not appear ath0 when run ifconfig
[08:25] <belen_> RadiantFire: do u know why disappear?
[08:25] <RadiantFire> belen_: try installing madwifi, I know that contains some aetheros driers
[08:25] <RadiantFire> technically, the ath_pci module is a driver for your wireless it might work
[08:26] <belen_> RadiantFire: a detail with livecd, ath0 appear ;)
[08:26] <belen_> RadiantFire: is posible the modules, but why unload o doesnt work? i dont know
[08:27] <RadiantFire> belen_: I would try installing madwifi, it probably can't do any harm
[08:27] <RadiantFire> belen_: and I know madwifi should contain some drivers for the card you are using
[08:27] <belen_> RadiantFire: yeah now make on madwifi fail me
[08:28] <RadiantFire> wait, your trying to compile it?
[08:29] <Aqutavia> thanx radiantfire.... i had a friend tell me that i might have to setup samba. i dont know if that apply's here.
[08:30] <RadiantFire> belen_: try installing linux-restricted-modules-generic instead, that should contain the madwifi drivers
[08:30] <RadiantFire> belen_: no need to compile them
[08:30] <RadiantFire> Aqutavia: nice to know thats working, samba is a file server
[08:30] <Aqutavia> ok.
[08:30] <RadiantFire> Aqutavia: if you need to share files, thats cool, although if your only sharing between linux boxes, I've personally found openssh-server works quite well
[08:35] <belen_> RadiantFire: but this package is installed already :(
[08:36] <RadiantFire> belen_: I don't know what to do then, I'm sorry I can't be of more help
[08:36] <belen_> RadiantFire: thx i load me now
[08:36] <belen_> RadiantFire: ath_pci
[08:36] <belen_> RadiantFire: ;)
[08:37] <RadiantFire> belen_: oh, cool, it works then?
[08:38] <CaptainApathy> ok... The system that we installed Feisty on has two network cards... the first one is active, however the second one was not set as active.... How can we fix that?
[08:39] <albertmk> Whats the command in terminal to check if a package is already installed?
[08:39] <belen_> RadiantFire: yeah thx!
[08:40] <belen_> RadiantFire: bye friend
[08:40] <RadiantFire> belen_: bye
[08:40] <albertmk> Whats the command in terminal to check if a package is already installed?
[08:41] <RadiantFire> albertmk: whats the package name?
[08:41] <albertmk> gdal , for instance
[08:41] <RadiantFire> dpkg --get-selections | grep gdal
[08:41] <RadiantFire> if you get a line, gdal          install
[08:41] <RadiantFire> then it is installed
[08:42] <albertmk> thanks
[08:42] <CaptainApathy> anyone know why the second nic card wouldn't be active?
[08:42] <CaptainApathy> we've checked and linux knows about the card...
[08:43] <RadiantFire> CaptainApathy: is it a fresh install? fresh installs only activate one interface
[08:43] <CaptainApathy> we've changed /etc/network/interfaces so that eth1 is set to inet dhcp
[08:43] <CaptainApathy> it is a fresh install
[08:43] <hendaus> RadiantFire: ok now done , but i dont know if done all
[08:44] <RadiantFire> CaptainApathy: if you set it to inet dhcp it won't come up normally, since you can only have 1 default access interface, and dhcp wants to make whatever interface it is r unning on the routing interface
[08:44] <hendaus> RadiantFire: Setting up amarok (1.4.3-0ubuntu10) , Setting up kubuntu-desktop (1.22)
[08:44] <hendaus> hendaus@hendaus:~$
[08:44] <RadiantFire> hendaus: try apt-get -f install
[08:45] <CaptainApathy> RadiantFire: ok, how so how do I get it up and working?
[08:46] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  Reading package lists... Done , Building dependency tree,Reading state information... Done
[08:46] <hendaus> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 26 not upgraded
[08:46] <hendaus> hendaus@hendaus:~$
[08:46] <RadiantFire> CaptainApathy: what do you need both interfaces for?
[08:46] <RadiantFire> hendaus: hmmm... do you know which package failed to upgrade originally
[08:47] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  no
[08:47] <RadiantFire> what are the packages that didn't upgrade?
[08:47] <CaptainApathy> RadiantFire: They will be going to two seperate networks
[08:47] <RadiantFire> CaptainApathy: you are routing through one right?
[08:48] <CaptainApathy> RadiantFire: No, there will be an external network and an internal network.  This isn't a routing box, but it will have access to both networks
[08:49] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  i dont know, i am looking from konsole and cannot find any package error
[08:49] <RadiantFire> hmmm... I'm not sure how that would work? I'd say use the interface on the external network with dhcp and statically config the one on the internal network
[08:50] <CaptainApathy> so we can't have dhcp for both network interfaces?
[08:50] <RadiantFire> I don't think so
[08:50] <RadiantFire> CaptainApathy: my knowledge of network architecture is somewhat limited
[08:51] <CaptainApathy> we've tried setting a static ip, but it's not activating
[08:51] <CaptainApathy> Do you know where the configuration file is?
[08:51] <RadiantFire> did you ifconfig up it?
[08:51] <CaptainApathy> like where the mac address is at?
[08:51] <RadiantFire> mac address is in the device
[08:52] <RadiantFire> you might want to ifconfig <device> up before trying to set addresses
[08:52] <CaptainApathy> it's not in the ifconfig list
[08:52] <RadiantFire> oh, its not even there?
[08:52] <RadiantFire> what kind of device is it?
[08:53] <CaptainApathy> the first network card is the same type
[08:53] <CaptainApathy> and linux detects it ok
[08:53] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  can u help me please coz i have much time here and cannot solve the upgrade edgy :((
[08:54] <RadiantFire> hendaus: what packages aren't being upgraded?
[08:54] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  how can i know?
[08:55] <RadiantFire> hendaus: sometimes they show up in adept if you only have the "ugpradable" checkbox marked
[08:56] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  let me open adept
[08:58] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  ok i just keep upgradable checkbox marked and no package shew
[08:58] <RadiantFire> sigh...
[08:58] <RadiantFire> hendaus: I'm not sure
[08:58] <RadiantFire> my brain just shut off
[08:59] <hendaus> so how can i know if edgy was updated or not?
[08:59] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  or maybe i have to make reboot
[08:59] <RadiantFire> hendaus: I honestly don't know, if its only 26 packages you might be ok for now
[09:00] <RadiantFire> eventually you'll have to figure it out
[09:00] <RadiantFire> sorry i can't be more help
[09:01] <CaptainApathy> hm.... sounds like we've got it working now
[09:01] <RadiantFire> excellent
[09:01] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  yes maybe python packages
[09:02] <RadiantFire> you can always try manually installing things like python or python-minimal
[09:02] <RadiantFire> sometimes that will give you a clue
[09:02] <RadiantFire> however
[09:02] <hendaus> ok
[09:02] <RadiantFire> goodnight all
[09:03] <mikkael> where can i define my fancy keyboard buttons (volume control, media player stuff, etc..) some work, some dont..its a logitech cordless desktop
[09:03] <RC-Needs-Help> i need help with my wireless card, who can help me ? please
[09:04] <hendaus> RadiantFire:  goodnight
[09:05] <albertmk> Does anyone know where I can find "build-dep" package?
[09:08] <RawSewage> I dont know.  do an apt-cache search
[09:09] <sushubh> how do i mount cue/bin files in linux?
[09:10] <baudthief> sushubh: Google says http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/82
[09:11] <baudthief> ugh I'm so close to reverting back to windows man :(
[09:11] <aftertaf> anyone help with a wifi problem?
[09:11] <aftertaf> baudthief: argh!!!
[09:11] <sushubh> hmm... any gui program :D
[09:11] <RC-Needs-Help> I'm also close to reverting
[09:12] <RC-Needs-Help> wireless issues driving me nuts
[09:12] <baudthief> aftertaf: heh it's the trouble finding help for me, its usually the pissy little issues like video tearing, but right now its my inability to install my new samsung laser mfp
[09:12] <mikkael> windows can be much more pain
[09:13] <mikkael> i had no sound, no wirless keyboard mouse working, s
[09:13] <baudthief> on the contrary, I know windows inside out, and its piss easy to resolve pretty much any issues like that
[09:13] <mikkael> nvidia twinview problems
[09:13] <mikkael> all no prob in linux
[09:13] <RC-Needs-Help> windows finds wireless cards no prob
[09:13] <baudthief> hah we're the opposire :p
[09:13] <baudthief> *opposite
[09:13] <stevec_> sushubh: google says cdemu
[09:14] <mikkael> RC-Needs-Help: propably right, but i doubt its that hard to get it working
[09:14] <RawSewage> what is the apt package that install Japanese character support
[09:14] <stevec_> sushubh: http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/cdrecording/
[09:14] <mikkael> well i gtg
[09:14] <RC-Needs-Help> i dont think my card is supported in ubuntu
[09:14] <RC-Needs-Help> Atheros AR5005G
[09:15] <aftertaf> i know mine was supported.
[09:15] <aftertaf> it has since disappeared and i dont know if its normal or if i got sth wrong
[09:16] <stevec_> RC-Needs-Help: Your card is supported by the madwifi driver. General download page can be found at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/GettingMadwifi.
[09:17] <RC-Needs-Help> thanks stevec_
[09:17] <RC-Needs-Help> I'm gonna try it
[09:20] <Jack31> hey guys i made a script called midi to start when kde starts, and i put it in .kde/autostart
[09:20] <Jack31> but instead it loaded it in kate text editor on boot up
[09:20] <Jack31> what does that mean?
[09:21] <Pr0phet> can anyone help me figure out why when i restart my resolution isn't on 1152x864?
[09:21] <stevec_> Jack31: is it executable?
[09:22] <stevec_> chmod 755 /path/to/script
[09:22] <Jack31> ooh, thanks :P
[09:22] <Jack31> shoudl i sudo that?
[09:22] <stevec_> Jack31: won't hurt if you do
[09:23] <Jack31> okay
[09:23] <RawSewage> Pr0phet, did you set it with nvidia-settings
[09:23] <Pr0phet> yes, also went to save to x configuration
[09:23] <RawSewage> run  sudo nvidia-settings
[09:23] <RawSewage> or it wont save
[09:24] <Pr0phet> oh awesome i didn't even think of that lol, thanks
[09:25] <stevec_> RC-Needs-Help: try a look at here too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=277160
[09:27] <Jack31> stevec_, when i click the file in konqueror should it start kate? cause thats what it does
[09:27] <intelikey> i think i found a bug in MC   major memory leak when trying to save a file that root owns but you are in the group.   -/+ buffers/cache:     103964     151728
[09:28] <stevec_> Jack31: right click and create 'link to application' then put that in startup
[09:28] <intelikey> a four line file should never eat 8M of ram
[09:29] <intelikey> i just reinstalled thinking that i had corrupted files somehow.   but no change.
[09:29] <intelikey> tested same exact conditions from another linux.    no mem leak no problem.
[09:29] <Jack31> stevec_, i dont have that
[09:30] <intelikey> i'll look for  an update, and test it.
[09:30] <RC-Needs-Help> thx stevec_ i appreciate your help
[09:30] <stevec_> Jack31: if you right click on the desktop?
[09:30] <Jack31> oh
[09:31] <Jack31> stevec_
[09:31] <stevec_> Jack31:
[09:31] <Jack31> stevec_ im starting a command, exec timidity -iA -B8,2 -Os
[09:31] <Jack31> well just timidity -iA -B8,2 -Os
[09:32] <stevec_> Jack31: right click desktop, link to application, under command /path/to/timidity -iA -B8,2 -Os
[09:32] <Jack31> ah, okay thanks
[09:46] <baudthief> ugh can someone please help me install the samsung software for this printer? I'm so friggen close to installing windows to get it working properly
[09:46] <Jack31> is there a way to add a shortcut like ctrl+k to start a konsole
[09:46] <baudthief> $1100 printer :(
[09:46] <Jack31> what type of printer
[09:47] <Jack31> model nubmers
[09:47] <baudthief> SCX-5530FN
[09:47] <baudthief> it's an all-in-one MFP
[09:47] <baudthief> Followed samsungs linux install "manual" (it's like half a page), all I get is a bunch of errors after running their install script
[09:48] <Jack31> so youve seen thsi page http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-scx-5530fn
[09:48] <Jack31> and you got the linux driver from their website
[09:49] <baudthief> checking now, I thought the discs that came from samsung would be adequate
[09:49] <Jack31> yeh probably
[09:49] <Jack31> here, www.pastebin.ca
[09:49] <Jack31> put up your error there, as well as the command you used that gave it
[09:49] <purple> why does kubuntu 7.04 can't use SSH???
[09:50] <RawSewage> it can
[09:50] <Jack31> it cant o.0
[09:50] <Jack31> ?
[09:50] <purple> i can't use that anymore
[09:51] <baudthief> Jack31: http://www.pastebin.ca/501871
[09:54] <Jack31> baudtheif, gimme a minnute
[09:54] <Jack31> i may be on to something :D
[09:54] <baudthief> thanks!
[10:00] <Jack31> hmm
[10:00] <Jack31> baudthief: can you upload the samsung driver to www.rapidshare.com
[10:02] <kai> wasup ppl
[10:02] <kai> is there .pdf for cli refrences any one knows of?
[10:05] <baudthief> Jack31: Does it have to be rapidshare? It'd be quicker to put it on my webhost account
[10:06] <Jack31> actually nevermind, i have something for you to try
[10:06] <baudthief> sweet!
[10:06] <Jack31> http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=SS&CttFileID=1018862&CDCttType=DR&ModelType=N&ModelName=SCX-5530FN&VPath=DR/200704/20070425134047593_UnifiedLinuxDriver.tar.gz
[10:07] <Jack31> grab that,and run tar xzf drivername.tar.gz
[10:07] <Jack31> cd into that dir that it made
[10:08] <bumzo_> hi good pple of kubuntu
[10:08] <bumzo_> i need help
[10:08] <bumzo_> how do u installa .bin file?
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> in a terminal, type "./<bin file name goes here". If it doesn't work, do a "chmod +r <bin file name>" and then try again.
[10:10] <bumzo_> slimeypete the file is on my desktop, will it stil lwork?
[10:10] <llutz> chmod +x  not +r
[10:10] <SlimeyPete> llutz: oops, yeah
[10:11] <SlimeyPete> bumzo_: yeah, should work fine
[10:11] <SlimeyPete> bumzo_: your desktop is in the "Desktop" directory under your home directory
[10:12] <baudthief> Jack31: I'm in that dir now
[10:12] <baudthief> execute autorun?
[10:13] <Jack31> is the dir called cd somethign?
[10:13] <baudthief> yup, cdroot
[10:13] <Jack31> okay go to the dir above that i guess
[10:13] <Jack31> or it doesnt really matter
[10:14] <baudthief> if it's worth mentioning, I got a couple of errors during extraction (something about ignoring trailing garbage)
[10:14] <alban_> Hi :)
[10:14] <Jack31> i think thats fine,
[10:14] <Jack31> anyways do, sudo cdroot/autorun
[10:14] <Jack31> or sudo autorun
[10:14] <Jack31> tell me when that is done
[10:15] <baudthief> done, output looks slightly better: http://www.pastebin.ca/501914
[10:16] <Jack31> okay that looks good
[10:16] <Jack31> now sudo ln -s /usr/share/cups/model/samsung /usr/share/ppd/custom/samsung
[10:16] <baudthief> done
[10:17] <alban_> Hi there : I just wanted to know how I can partition my HDD in fat32 ? I've got a NTFS partition which contains datas : I want to format it to use it with linux too. But cfdiskmakes me a fatal error :/
[10:17] <Jack31> okay, now im a little lost
[10:17] <Jack31> the last stepis to " Execute Configurator, and Add your printer model name by Add Printer"
[10:17] <Jack31> i duno if you know whats meant about that
[10:17] <baudthief> I've got a new configurator icon on my desktop heh, maybe its that
[10:17] <Jack31> yehtry
[10:18] <llutz> !ntfs|alban
[10:18] <ubotu> alban: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:18] <llutz> !ntfs-3g|alban
[10:18] <ubotu> alban: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:19] <rizoma> hi
[10:19] <llutz> alban_: if you convert your ntfs-partition into vfat, your data will be lost
[10:19] <baudthief> Jack31: Done, printer part of it works!
[10:20] <Jack31> printer part?
[10:20] <baudthief> heh yeah, it's a printer/scanner/fax - scanner didn't install :(
[10:21] <Jack31> was the printer working before
[10:21] <Jack31> ?
[10:21] <aftertaf> i cant load knetworkmanager: libnetworkstatus.so. missing
[10:21] <baudthief> nope, I couldn't get it to install at all - so thanks for helping out in getting that part goign!
[10:21] <baudthief> *going
[10:21] <Jack31> okay, so we got something working, thats good!
[10:21] <Jack31> now lemme see what else we can do
[10:22] <rizoma> hi i've a similar problem my usb ntfs drive was recognized but automount doesnt work, i'm with feisty, when i turn on that drive a window tell me if i want open it but nothing appear,,,, i've readed in a forum that in edgy it work...
[10:22] <rizoma> sorry 4 bad english
[10:23] <baudthief> Jack31:  haha yeah, it's so hard to go back to windows after running feisty + beryl (you inadvertantly try and due the ctrl+alt screen switch thing on windows, but it doesnt work!) - Its just that I *NEED* to get at least printing going, thanks for the help so far!
[10:23] <baudthief> Jack31: Worst case scenario, I can setup an FTP server on this box, and get the printer to upload all scanned stuff to it
[10:24] <Jack31> yeh, im sure we can get the scanning working just have to find the right stuff to do
[10:26] <kai> nobody has a refrence for command line they can point me 2?
[10:26] <Jack31> baudthief: im thinkin xsane might work
[10:27] <Jack31> kai what did you ask?
[10:27] <kai> Jack31: a cli refrence sheet ?
[10:28] <kai> Jack31: any Ideas?
[10:28] <Jack31> i have no idea what that is?
[10:28] <Jack31> cli reference?
[10:28] <Jack31> command line reference?
[10:28] <alban_> llutz: there's no matter to loose my datas, cause i've got an external HDD to save them. But with which tool can I convert my partitiON ,
[10:28] <alban_> ?
[10:28] <kai> Jack31: yea
[10:28] <Jack31> kai, you mean this http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html
[10:29] <Jack31> i just happened to bookmark that the other day
[10:29] <llutz> alban_: change partition type with fdisk, make new filesystem with mkfs.vfat -F32
[10:29] <kai> Jack31: really? how come
[10:29] <baudthief> Jack31: xsane started, then quit saying no devices found (maybe because it's on a network? not sure if linux supports network scanning w/samsung)
[10:30] <Jack31> baudthief: your printers networked oh?
[10:30] <alban_> erf. I'll try that (I didn't understand anything, but i'll try)
[10:30] <kai> Jack31: There nothing on that page
[10:31] <baudthief> baudthief: yep, has a 10/100 lan port - ubuntu is printing to it fine though, on the windows machine you usually setup a small server using the samsung software - it registers your username on the printer, so when you go and scan something, you choose your userid, enter your password and it sends the documents straight to your machine
[10:31] <baudthief> (it's kinda cool actually! didn't expect that feature)
[10:31] <kai> Jack31: I got it this time
[10:32] <kai> Jack31: its pretty thorough eh?
[10:32] <Jack31> i think so
[10:32] <Jack31> kai, you might try http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[10:32] <Jack31> baudthief, hmmmmmmm, sounds a little not fun
[10:32] <kai> I just wanna do some scripting before ai go over seas
[10:33] <kai> Automate some task perhaps
[10:33] <Jack31> baudthief, do you think the printer requires a userid/pass , or just the software
[10:33] <baudthief> the printer itself asks for it
[10:34] <baudthief> no prob though, I don't mind scanning straight to FTP or to a flashdisk, I can live with it :)
[10:34] <kai> Jack31: any other resources?
[10:34] <kai> Jack31: Say have you ever heard of PoSH
[10:34] <kai> Its kinda cool
[10:36] <baudthief> Jack31: Thanks again for your help, you've stopped me crossing over to the dark side!
[10:36] <baudthief> gotta get some stuff printed heh, bbl
[10:36] <Jack31> haha no problem, sorry i cant help with scanning
[10:36] <baudthief> nah its alright lol
[10:36] <baudthief> printing is more important ;p
[10:36] <Jack31> sounds like it would be real harder for scanning with a userid/pass in linux
[10:37] <baudthief> harder than getting printing working? geez that must be hell :P
[10:38] <baudthief> heh alright i'm off, thanks again!
[10:38] <rizoma> no one have solved that automount usb problem?
[10:40] <kai> if I do a command, and returns to the next line how can i get ou of it
[10:40] <kai> Sometime 'exit' works
[10:41] <kai> but not all the time I tryed 'ctrl+q'
[10:41] <kai> I have to close down the whole thing
[10:41] <kai> ...is there another waq?
[10:44] <_6StringKng_> .clear
[10:44] <_6StringKng_> shit
[10:46] <ubunturos> kai: Ctrl+C or Ctrl+D should work
[10:47] <megablade> anibody home?
[10:48] <megablade> ok i'm a total noob to this os so i wil probably need help from someone
[10:54] <haydar_> Good morning ;D
[11:01] <Jack31> 2am is bad mornin :\
[11:05] <jtmoney> anyone want to recommend a method or synchronizing files between an xp workstation (on 24/7) and a laptop running kubuntu? rsync the best way?
[11:08] <leotr> hi all. isn't there package kde-games in kubunu CD 4.07
[11:11] <sukow360> i cant get mp3 support, cant find anything in package manager.
[11:12] <sukow360> guess everyone is a bot :(
[11:15] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[11:15] <RawSewage> for mp3
[11:20] <bumzo_> hel here
[11:20] <bumzo_> how di i install a .bin file
[11:21] <RawSewage> is it a CD image
[11:21] <bumzo_> no ... i have it on my desktop
[11:21] <RawSewage> how big is it
[11:21] <RawSewage> 700 mb?
[11:21] <bumzo_> just downloaded it ....googleearth actually
[11:21] <RawSewage> oh
[11:21] <bumzo_> 5.2MB
[11:21] <RawSewage> you dont need that
[11:21] <SlimeyPete> bumzo_: did the method I suggested not work?
[11:22] <bumzo_> SlimeyPete ... thank god you here .... i lost connection
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> ah right
[11:22] <bumzo_> SlimeyPete please giveme the command line again .. please
[11:22] <RawSewage> http://packages.debian.org/testing/misc/googleearth-package
[11:23] <RawSewage> nm
[11:23] <RawSewage> forget that.  I thought that was a deb file for Google Earth
[11:23] <SlimeyPete> bumzo_: "cd <directory with bin file in it>", then "chmod +x <bin file name>" to make it executable, then "./<bin file name>" to run. You might need to run "sudo ./<bin file name>" if it requires admin privelidges.
[11:24] <SlimeyPete> (remove the quote-marks and angle-brackets)
[11:24] <bumzo_> ok
[11:27] <RawSewage>  Kubuntu is officially faster and uses less memory than Ubuntu
[11:27] <RawSewage> I couldnt install Ubuntu on my laptop without using the alternate text install
[11:28] <RawSewage> but I can install Kubuntu on it in normal fashio
[11:28] <bumzo_> its unpacking slimeypete
[11:29] <SlimeyPete> bumzo_: good good
[11:29] <RawSewage> youll need to install NVidia drivers for GoogleEarth
[11:29] <leotr> I have kubuntu 7.04 CD but i can't play DVD although i have Kaffeine. What else do i need to download?
[11:30] <RawSewage> youre trying to play a DVD with a live CD?
[11:30] <youbuntu> RawSewage: kubuntu faster - really?
[11:30] <RawSewage> yes
[11:30] <leotr> nope i have installed it on my PC
[11:31] <RawSewage> oh
[11:31] <RawSewage> maybe try vlc
[11:31] <RawSewage> vlc plays pretty much everything
[11:31] <TheInfinity> leotr: libdvdcss2 installed?
[11:32] <leotr> TheInfinity: default installation. I don't know
[11:33] <bumzo_> thanks slimeypete ... YOUA RE TOO GOOD i  really appreciate
[11:33] <youbuntu> leotr : have you tried- sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[11:33] <belen_> hello
[11:34] <belen_> ath_pci is needly for atheros card, but which other module is necessary load
[11:34] <belen_> bcoz my wifi connection down and up
[11:34] <leotr> youbuntu: unfortunately the PC with ubuntu is offline (
[11:34] <TheInfinity> libdvdcss2 is because of legal things not in default installation
[11:35] <TheInfinity> it switches the copy protection off to get the data of the dvd
[11:35] <TheInfinity> thats why the media industry does not like this lib
[11:35] <SlimeyPete> bumzo_: no problem :)
[11:35] <rizoma> someone can handle usb ntfs automount on feisty 7.04?
[11:35] <TheInfinity> so its not allowed to put it on the cd. but you can install it afterwards
[11:37] <bumzo_> slimeypete ... one more Question please. how do i put it uunder my start menu?
[11:37] <RawSewage> restart X maybe
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> bumzo_: if you right-click on the "K" button you can open a menu editor
[11:38] <RawSewage> last time I installed Google Earth, restarting X put it in the menu
[11:39] <_Hug[o] _> What DVD player programs are there in kubuntu?
[11:40] <RawSewage> basicaly any media player
[11:40] <crazy_bus> I connected a mobile phone to my kubuntu computer via a usb cord.  How do I connect to it now to put files onto it?
[11:40] <TheInfinity> andy media player when you have this lib installed ;)
[11:41] <RawSewage> yeah, libdvdcss2
[11:41] <leotr> can someone give me a link to this package. i can't find it
[11:42] <mrdlouisd> My hdd went out in my laptop, so im using the livedvd, i used to remote to my windows box all the time, it had sound. Since I have been using the livedvd I can not get the sound to work, anyone have any idea if im missing drivers?
[11:43] <leotr> libdvdcss2 ^
[11:43] <bumzo_> then...
[11:43] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[11:43] <mrdlouisd> thank you
[11:43] <MrC_> do you guy/gals knows any good weather widget for kubuntu/ubuntu?
[11:43] <RawSewage> oh, nm
[11:44] <mrdlouisd> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:44] <mrdlouisd> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:44] <mrdlouisd> is only available from another source
[11:44] <RawSewage> libdvdread3 ?
[11:44] <RawSewage> anyway, I think if you install vlc, you can watch DVDs with it
[11:46] <belen__> belen_: davilac@davilac.net
[11:46] <belen__> sorry
[11:46] <RawSewage> just install vlc
[11:46] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:46] <RawSewage> simple
[11:47] <mrdlouisd> its odd i used krdc all the time with sound but the livedvd doesnt get it going
[11:48] <mrdlouisd> vlc wont work on livedvd
[11:48] <MrC_> I think realplayer is better for videos
[11:48] <RawSewage> ok
[11:48] <mrdlouisd> thanks anyways
[11:48] <mrdlouisd> its appreciated
[11:50] <RawSewage> The swirly Debian logo comes from the chin of Buzz Lightyear
[11:54] <youbuntu> leotr: try http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fx%2Fxine-extracodecs%2Flibxine-extracodecs_1.1.1%2Bubuntu1-2_i386.deb&md5sum=5512ee45d3d0c9dd30f2588512729aa8&arch=i386&type=main
[11:55] <crazy_bus> is there anyway to connect to a LG mobilephone via usb.  As kmobiletools isn't working
[11:57] <RawSewage> there's kandy
[11:58] <RawSewage> kandy - KDE mobile phone utility
[11:59] <RawSewage> I dont know anything about mobile phones
[11:59] <RawSewage> apt-cache search mobile phone
[12:02] <MrC_> There is Gammu ,it is a good program as well
[12:03] <youbuntu> !#ubuntu
[12:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:03] <youbuntu> #ubuntu
[12:03] <RawSewage> !#Kubuntu
[12:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:03] <crazy_bus> thanks everyone.  I'm having the most luck with wammu.  It detected the phone but I'm not sure if it will allow me to transfer files
[12:04] <NiceGuyUK> mobile phones are evil. I tried getting the Smartphone stuff working and it never did do anything useful
[12:04] <RawSewage> I'm lucky.  I dont have any friends, so I have no need to use a mobile phone
[12:04] <ahmed> hi guys,, after i installed kde on ubuntu,, now in the start menu the gnome application icons doesnt appear though the application can be run....plz helpp
[12:05] <NiceGuyUK> RawSewage: with SMS messages in the US twice the cost of those in the UK, I don't blame you!
[12:05] <ahmed>  hi guys,, after i installed kde on ubuntu,, now in the start menu the gnome application icons doesnt appear though the application can be run....plz helpp
[12:05] <RawSewage> lol
[12:06] <ahmed> hello
[12:06] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: right-click the K button and use the menu editor. If you didn't have KDE installed when you installed the apps, then the KDE menu won't have been updated automatically.
[12:07] <SlimeyPete> I'm not sure if there's an automatic way to sync the two menus - there might be, I guess
[12:08] <NiceGuyUK> I thought there were supposed to be open desktop standards in both Gnome and KDE that they adhered to, including this menu syncing stuff
[12:08] <ahmed> slimeypete: what shall ido with the menu editor ..  ??? shall i re choose an icon for each application that was in gnome ??
[12:09] <NiceGuyUK> ahmed: Currently Gnome uses /usr/share/gnome/apps for storing its menu entries, while KDE uses /usr/share/applnk. Both KDE and Gnome use the same ".desktop" file format for its menu entry
[12:10] <NiceGuyUK> ahmed: you might be able to copy them across
[12:10] <ahmed> copy all stuff in gnome/apps to share/applnk ?
[12:10] <NiceGuyUK> worth a try...
[12:10] <ahmed> niceguyuk: ?
[12:10] <ahmed> k
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: yeah
[12:11] <spark_> hi
[12:11] <ahmed> slimeypete: folder doesnt exist the apps one in gnome ,, isnt there
[12:11] <ahmed> niceguyuk
[12:12] <NiceGuyUK> hmm, they must have moved it since the last time I used gnome then
[12:12] <leotr> where is it possible to download libdvdcss2?
[12:12] <NiceGuyUK> you could try searching your filesystem for .desktop files ?
[12:12] <leotr> can't find it
[12:12] <NiceGuyUK> !restricted | leotr
[12:12] <ubotu> leotr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:12] <NiceGuyUK> !plf | leotr
[12:12] <ubotu> leotr: The Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas
[12:13] <ahmed> Niceguysyk: search file and folder for .desktop ??
[12:13] <NiceGuyUK> yeah, to find where GNOME puts them these days
[12:13] <MrC_> is it there any program for ubuntu/kubuntu to defragment or to clean menory form old,unused files ?
[12:14] <NiceGuyUK> MrC_: defragging is done periodically by fsck (on ext2 and ext3 this is e2fsck)
[12:14] <NiceGuyUK> example, mine does it every 30 boots
[12:14] <MrC_> sorry is it there any program for ubuntu/kubuntu to defragment or to clean memory from old,unused files ?
[12:14] <ahmed> niceguyuk: can u tell me wat i would fine in this folder.. like will i find 1 file or many files ,, 1 for each program i have in gnome or wat ??
[12:15] <MrC_> ok how do i set it?
[12:15] <spark_> hmhmh. anyone knows if i can sync my mails and contacts between kontact and ms outlook? (sryi cant use feisty on my laptop...
[12:15] <NiceGuyUK> ahmed: each menu entry should have a .desktop file
[12:15] <MrC_> or is it set automatically?
[12:15] <NiceGuyUK> !fsck | MrC_
[12:15] <ubotu> MrC_: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[12:16] <ahmed> found nothing niceguyuk:
[12:16] <NiceGuyUK> ahmed, not sure then, been too long since I used GNOME
[12:16] <NiceGuyUK> sorry
[12:16] <MrC_> ok thx nice to know that.Why is Microsoft Windows so behind Linux?
[12:18] <cntb> can ther be an msi installer on wine?
[12:18] <NumPy> MrC: if it is indeed behind.. then its because all of its developers "punch a clock" :)
[12:18] <NiceGuyUK> cos they don't wanna admit we're smarter ;)
[12:18] <NiceGuyUK> !windows | MrC_
[12:18] <ubotu> MrC_: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:19] <cntb> can ther be an msi installer on wine? anyone ?
[12:19] <NiceGuyUK> I'll probably get derided and mocked for saying it, but Vista isn't too bad (once you turn off that UAC crap). Still prefer my Kubuntu boxes though
[12:19] <MrC_> Me too
[12:20] <MrC_> Since i moved to Linux i have gived life sentence to Microsoft
[12:20] <spark_> i think vista needs muuch to much ram....
[12:20] <MrC_> or death sentence
[12:20] <NiceGuyUK> cntb: you want to install a program on WINE that uses an msi?
[12:20] <ahmed> guys,plzz help,, after installing kde in ubuntu , the backspace doesnt work,, i mean when iam in a folder and i wanna go up one level used to press backspace in windows and in gnome too but in kde its not working can any one help plzzzzzzzzzz
[12:21] <MrC_> too much i think,it needs @ 1 gig to run well,i am running my old HPOnmibook with 256 mb and quit fast
[12:22] <spark_> ahmed:  in konqeuror? just go to settings/shortcuts and choose the one u want
[12:22] <NiceGuyUK> spark_: I gave it 1gb RAM, a 2ghz Celeron and a new(ish) nVidia and it still only rated my system at 2.3 out of 6.0
[12:22] <spark_> exactly THIS i wanted to say... my linux with every eyecandy i could find runs smooth with 512 mb....
[12:23] <MrC_> 2 the end of the year a lot of people will be moving/migrating to Linux because microsoft stop to give support to it WinXP users,they want that they move to Vista($$$$)
[12:23] <spark_> i don't see any advantage in using vista if i use xp....
[12:23] <NiceGuyUK> spark_: yeah, my KDE/Beryl combo works real sweet
[12:23] <spark_> yipp :) i love to browse through the snowstorm....
[12:24] <MrC_> I mean they want to sell Vista,so they will stop to support WinXP
[12:24] <ahmed> ok one more thing,, shortcuts used to be on desktop in gnome for my media drives,, shall i just copy paste shortcuts or there is 1short smart way ?
[12:25] <MrC_> like they already did to the previous versions of Windows
[12:25] <MrC_> and wait for OpenMoko to come up it will be a big Linux blast
[12:25] <spark_> yipp. but vista is already fully cracked so why should i pay thousands of dollars to get a os which doesn't work properly....
[12:25] <spark_> MrC_:  whats openMoko? oO
[12:26] <NiceGuyUK> ahmed: removable drives come and go automatically as you attach them, but for fixed drives, I think you'll have to create them manually
[12:26] <MrC_> Have anyone hearded about OpenMOko
[12:26] <NiceGuyUK> nope
[12:26] <MrC_> OpenMoko is the new mobile phone form Linux
[12:26] <spark_> oO
[12:26] <MrC_> or with linux inside,it uses Gnome/Kde and it will be Open Source too
[12:26] <ahmed> ok to run windows application i should use wine right ??
[12:27] <youbuntu> ahmed : shortcut is alt left - u should be able to set s/c to backspace
[12:27] <NiceGuyUK> ahmed: yeah, wine will work with most smaller apps
[12:27] <ahmed> but wont emulation be much slower than real thingie..
[12:27] <spark_> great... for smartphones(instead of windowsmobile) or just for "normal" mobiles?
[12:27] <ahmed> wat abt the  larger ones ?
[12:27] <MrC_> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ
[12:27] <MrC_> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page
[12:27] <NiceGuyUK> ahmed: depends what larger ones you want
[12:28] <youbuntu> ahmed : backspace - i tried setting the s/c - it works
[12:28] <MrC_> OpenMoko is an Open Source project to create the world's first free mobile phone operating system.
[12:28] <MrC_> The OpenMoko project is a community that anyone can join, and help to design their ideal phone.
[12:28] <MrC_> The Neo1973 from FIC is the first of many phones that OpenMoko will run on.
[12:28] <ahmed> thx youbuntu already done..
[12:29] <ahmed> abt the icons of gnome in the start menu of kde,, they just dont appear do any one have any clue abt this ??
[12:30] <ahmed> ?
[12:31] <ahmed> hello
[12:32] <NiceGuyUK> ahmed: you tried Googling ?
[12:32] <ahmed> yea
[12:32] <ahmed> came up with nothing
[12:32] <ahmed> ok lets forget this
[12:33] <NiceGuyUK> sorry I couldn't help more on that one, its not something I've tried before
[12:33] <dunar> just ariived
[12:33] <NiceGuyUK> so I see
[12:33] <ahmed> in ma laptop i have some media button like to launch internet explorer and default mail application ,, lower the volume and raise it and so on,, as for the volume its workin great in linux but for running applications i can run the mail app but not the ie one,, any one have any idea how to edit this or so ????
[12:35] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: in the System Settings menu, click "keyboard and mouse" and look at "keyboard shortcuts". You may be able to do something in there.
[12:36] <ahmed> thx alot
[12:36] <ahmed> one more thing
[12:36] <ahmed> best mp3 / media player ubuntu ?? i already use amarok any one better than it ?
[12:37] <NiceGuyUK> amarok is pretty much the best for audio multimedia I think
[12:38] <ahmed> ok ..
[12:40] <ahmed> now the win key in my keyboard, first in beryl its acting as the super key but it doesnt work,, discover now why,, was tryin to make a key shortcut to run the terminal ,, tryin WIN+T,, but each time i pres the window key it appear win+ then i press T letter it removes the win+ and makes it only T.. any idea ??
[12:40] <ahmed> ??
[12:41] <SlimeyPete> I have the same problem. If you find out how to fix it, let me know ;)
[12:41] <ahmed> lol...kai..
[12:42] <ahmed> now its ma first time to run liinux... do u know any good games that it is compaitable with ubuntu and good to play.. i dun want solitare or this basic stuff am talkin abt halflife,, generals,counter strike ? any gamers around ???
[12:43] <jussi01> ahmed: tremulous, enemy territory, open arena
[12:43] <jussi01> just to name a few...
[12:44] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: Half-Life 2 can be made to run in Linux. The Quake games and Neverwinter Nights also have clients available, as does UT2004
[12:44] <jussi01> tremulous and open arena are in the repos, enemy territory isnt
[12:44] <SlimeyPete> WoW also runs
[12:44] <stefan> Hello all :)
[12:44] <ahmed> warcraft 3 ?
[12:44] <SlimeyPete> And there's a Counterstrike-like game called Ture Combat: Elite (or something similar)
[12:44] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: not sure about WC3. It might work. Look into Wine and Cedega.
[12:45] <stefan> I have kvpnc running and need to export a openvpn connection and can not find the config files or a way to export
[12:45] <ahmed> well now u mentioned many games,,, how to get them to run.. ? also is it some emulator to run them or there is a linux version of them ??
[12:45] <stefan> Is there a way to do this
[12:45] <stefan> Can someone help?
[12:45] <jussi01> ahmed: some games you need wine/cedega, tho many are now coming to linux
[12:45] <NiceGuyUK> SlimeyPete and ahmed: I set the Win+T shortcut up to launch Konsole using KControl without problems
[12:45] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: for some (quake games, doom 3, UT2004, NWN, enemy territory, tc:e and tremulous) there are linux clients available. Otherwise, you have to use Wine or Cedega to run them.
[12:46] <ahmed> k wont wine or cedega be slow in running themm
[12:46] <SlimeyPete> NiceGuyUK: odd. Maybe it's an issue with certain keyboards/layouts.
[12:46] <ahmed> i mean emulation is always slow
[12:46] <ahmed> sliemeypete: i guess so
[12:46] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: Wine Is Not An Emulatore (hence the name ;)
[12:46] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: Wine can be as fast as Windows for some games
[12:46] <SlimeyPete> it's just a re-implementation of the Windows API - it doesn't emulate a computer.
[12:47] <mordocan> hoi leute
[12:47] <NiceGuyUK> SlimeyPete: cheapest laptop I could find here, never had any problems. Expensive ones are the trouble!
[12:47] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: the only problem is that Wine doesn't run everything, and it can be buggy.
[12:47] <NiceGuyUK> !de | mordocan
[12:47] <ubotu> mordocan: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:47] <mordocan> can someone help me intall my network printer?(using d-link as printserver)
[12:48] <mordocan> i can speak english aswell just forgot to use it :)
[12:48] <NiceGuyUK> lol, ok
[12:49] <ahmed> shall i install wine or cedega ?
[12:49] <NiceGuyUK> wine = free as in beer
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: install Wine first. If it doesn't work, try Cedega.
[12:49] <NiceGuyUK> cedega = pay a sunscription
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> Cedega costs money unless you pirate it.
[12:49] <jussi01> SlimeyPete: or compile it...
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: check out appdb.winehq.com for a list of things which run in Wine
[12:49] <NiceGuyUK> *cough* we don't encourage that kinda behaviour round here ;)
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> jussi01: well yeah, or that. That's tricky, though ;)
[12:50] <jussi01> SlimeyPete: yeah...
[12:50] <ahmed> k installed wine now ,, shal i just run exe files
[12:50] <ahmed> or there is some to be done first /
[12:50] <jussi01> !wine
[12:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:50] <jussi01> ahmed: ^
[12:51] <NiceGuyUK> why is the traceroute in the standard repos marked as untrusted?
[12:55] <NiceGuyUK> !traceroute
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about traceroute - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <haydar_> Hmm lol
[12:57] <haydar_> how can i do a complete cleanreboot :P
[12:58] <NiceGuyUK> K Menu -> Log Out -> Restart ?
[12:58] <ahmed> guys i tried running a game now in wine ,, it runs very slow and graphics are badd also this eror appears ..Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[12:58] <haydar_> Well then it starts all the programs
[12:58] <haydar_> i left before reboot
[12:59] <NiceGuyUK> ah ok, in KControl, look for the stuf about Sessions, you can set it to start a clean session every time
[01:00] <haydar_> O; oky
[01:02] <haydar_> Hmm i cant find kcontrol
[01:02] <haydar_> :P
[01:03] <haydar_> aah got it nvm
[01:10] <Timsen> hi, i have a network with some ubuntu hosts, but these hosts do not answer to broadcast pings, is that a feature or a bug ? :)
[01:11] <Glaf> How do i fix the nvidia driver when. The nvidia kernel module has another version then the X module has?
[01:12] <sayers> How do I share my printer of samba so the windows laptop can use it?
[01:16] <Glaf> How do i fix the nvidia driver when. The nvidia kernel module has another version then the X module has?
[01:16] <jussi01> !printing | sayers
[01:16] <ubotu> sayers: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:17] <jussi01> Glaf: Im sorry, I have no knowledge of that, someone will drop in some time, that will know
[01:17] <jussi01> In the meantime, does this help?
[01:17] <jussi01> !nvidia
[01:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:17] <sayers> I don't understand this line : #Modify 192.168.0.* to match your configuration.
[01:17] <jussi01> works out of the box...
[01:18] <Glaf> not with my 8800GTX :(
[01:19] <jussi01> sayers, you need to chage that to the start of your network config
[01:19] <sayers> And where would I find that information?
[01:19] <jussi01> sayers: what do the network addresses on tyur network currently look like
[01:20] <jussi01> sayers: type if config into terminal
[01:20] <jussi01> sorry, ifconfig
[01:20] <jussi01> sayers then pastebin me the output
[01:20] <youbuntu> how do i turn up microphone gain?
[01:21] <jussi01> youbuntu: click mixer when you click on the volume control, then go to input
[01:22] <sayers> !pastebin
[01:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:22] <sayers> jussi01: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21970/
[01:22] <youbuntu> jussi01 : thanks
[01:23] <jussi01> youbuntu: np's
[01:23] <jussi01> sayers: Allow From 192.168.1.*
[01:23] <jussi01> thats what it sould look like for you...
[01:24] <jussi01> the second last line
[01:24] <sayers> jussi01: thanks
[01:24] <jussi01> sayers: drop back if you have any other problems
[01:25] <sayers> jussi01: I don't think I have "/etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf"
[01:25] <jussi01> sayers: are you running dapper?
[01:26] <sayers> No, feisty
[01:26] <sayers> Oh, I read now. Where is Network Options?
[01:27] <jussi01> is it not in the same file you just edited?
[01:27] <sayers> Maybe it is...
[01:28] <sayers> jussi01: it doesnt have anything about network options
[01:29] <jussi01> sayers: can you pastebin the file contents for me?
[01:30] <sayers> Found somthing very similar to what they want tho
[01:30] <sayers> Anyway I have to go now, I will finish the seccond part later. Thanks jussi01
[01:30] <jussi01> sayers: no probs
[01:36] <buz> can anyone tell me how i trigger the code path guidance power manager uses for suspending on the cli?
[01:40] <Ayabara> anyone know of some resources to help me get tv out on my laptop working? I need to connect to a 1366*768 lcd tv, but I only get "signal out of range"
[01:41] <buz> does your lcd have vga or dvi?
[01:41] <monzie> is dvi really better
[01:41] <buz> yes
[01:41] <buz> very much so if you can use, use it
[01:43] <Ayabara> buz: it has both, but I need to connect vga-vga
[01:43] <buz> what resolution does your laptop lcd have
[01:43] <Ayabara> 1680*1050
[01:44] <buz> try running it at 800x600 or something
[01:44] <buz> what graphics card?
[01:44] <Ayabara> ati m300 (currently using the open source driver)
[01:44] <buz> look into xinerama config
[01:44] <buz> for dual head
[01:45] <buz> if you want clone, you wil lneed to lower resolution of main lcd
[01:46] <Ayabara> buz: ok. If I choose clone, should I do something to deactivate the vga output when nothing is connected to it? to save power I mean
[01:46] <Stratys> ahhhh... please help me
[01:47] <buz> no idea how you would deactivate that
[01:47] <neonlinux> hey, anyone know where i can get the latest version of iceweasel?
[01:47] <neonlinux> preferably a tar
[01:47] <Stratys> I have an error on line 47 of my sources list and I can't get in to change it
[01:48] <neonlinux> Stratys: cant sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:48] <stdin> neonlinux: iceweasel is firefox, just without the logos
[01:49] <neonlinux> stdin: isnt there also a few things not included?
[01:49] <neonlinux> that have been stripped from the build?
[01:49] <Ayabara> I have ati dualconfig at work, with 1440*900 and 1280*1024. Maybe I could just as well use ati's driver
[01:49] <buz> radeon and ati drivers should be the same these days, no?
[01:50] <stdin> neonlinux: it's mostly the same, but with a few patches, the website is here: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ the code should be there too
[01:51] <neonlinux> stdin: cool thanks... was oping to find a version based upon firefox2 last build there is from 22 oct 2006
[01:51] <Stratys> neonlinux I am a newbie and I have no idea what im looking for
[01:51] <neonlinux> buz: i think that may depend on the age of the card
[01:51] <buz> x300 should be supported
[01:51] <buz> iirc
[01:52] <buz> X1000+ is not
[01:52] <buz> (i must know, i suffer of fglrx with my x1400)
[01:52] <neonlinux> Stratys: ok, open a terminal, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:52] <neonlinux> Stratys: go down to line 47
[01:52] <Stratys> neonlinux im there
[01:53] <neonlinux> ok.. whats on that line
[01:55] <Stratys> ok i deleted the bad source...now what
[01:55] <neonlinux> ok, after deleting teh bad source (are you in nano)?
[01:55] <Stratys> neonlinux yes sir
[01:56] <neonlinux> press ctrl+o
[01:56] <neonlinux> it will ask if you want to save it
[01:57] <Stratys> cool thank you
[01:57] <neonlinux> no worries.. after hitting ctrl+o it will ask to save.. hit enter to save, and after that hit ctrl+x to exit
[01:58] <ReMiiRuru> I'm trying to compile kernel, but I'm getting 'make[1] : *** [.tmp_vmlinux1]  Error 1' and 'make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel]  Error 2'. How can I get rid of those?
[01:59] <spawn57> ReMiiRuru: why are you compiling the kernel though?
[02:00] <neonlinux> ok.. later all
[02:01] <dromer> how can I see what filesystem a hd has? I have a 2.5" ancient hd (still has win95 on it) connected with a 2.5->3.5 converter to a 3.5->usb converter .. my pc doesn't recognize it, and I can't mount it manually because I don't know the filesystem
[02:01] <DJServers> hi all
[02:01] <spawn57> dromer: you can use cfdisk, or in kubuntu you can use..um
[02:02] <paolo_> hi. i have to check the actual status of CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST (kernel). how can i do?
[02:02] <ReMiiRuru> spawn57: Because I'm silly idiot and nvidia drivers won't work with me, nvnews guys said it might be kernel bug, and I remember it worked with kernel I'm trying to compile... so, I just wanted to test it out.
[02:02] <berkes> anyone here using kate for coding?
[02:02] <spawn57> system settings -> advanced -> file and disk systems
[02:03] <berkes> I'd like to know if there is a trick/way to perform regexp search-replace over multiple lines.
[02:03] <DJServers> berkes: what you mean coding whit kate
[02:03] <DJServers> for sites?
[02:03] <berkes> DJServers: any coding, C, C++, Perl/PHP Css etc
[02:04] <DJServers> o no i dont
[02:04] <spawn57> ReMiiRuru: compiling the kernel is a big thing, can you tell me how you installed the nvidia driver?
[02:04] <Glaf> How do i fix the nvidia drivers when the Nvidia kernel module and X module has different versions?
[02:04] <spawn57> paolo_: get the kernel headers for your kernel version, install them, and check the .config file it comes iwth
[02:04] <ReMiiRuru> spawn57: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21594/
[02:05] <berkes> Basically I'd like to know, e.g. how to replace '} else {' with '}\n else {' and such replacements.
[02:05] <icecruncher> how can i open edit and save binaries?
[02:06] <ahmed> hi ,, guys how to installl deamon tools in kubuntu
[02:06] <ahmed> ?
[02:06] <berkes> icecruncher: do you have a hexeditor?
[02:06] <icecruncher> berkes: no, any good ones?
[02:07] <ahmed> Hello
[02:07] <spawn57> ReMiiRuru: damn...that's harsh
[02:07] <spawn57> ReMiiRuru: alright there's a debian way for doign this that's  more neater, lemme just get you the link
[02:07] <berkes> icecruncher: you won't believe it, but its called. (drumrrrrrroolll)
[02:07] <paolo_> spawn57: without kernel headers, is there a way to obtain the info?
[02:07] <berkes> khexedit
[02:08] <icecruncher> lol
[02:08] <spawn57> paolo_: not that I know of ..there might be though
[02:08] <mizzle> I want beryl working here on kubuntu.
[02:09] <mizzle> I installed the stuff in Adept
[02:09] <icecruncher> berkes: thnks
[02:09] <spawn57> ReMiiRuru: http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=164
[02:10] <ReMiiRuru> spawn57: Thanks, I'll look trough that.
[02:20] <ubuntu_> hallo
[02:20] <ubuntu_> can anyone guide me how to restore my mbr
[02:20] <ubuntu_> it gives me an error
[02:20] <ubuntu_> error 15
[02:20] <ubuntu_> i use kubuntu feisty
[02:21] <PhinnFort> !mbr
[02:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:29] <youbuntu>  my audio mic input is very quiet( at play back) kmix mic volume is up with mic boost selected - an ideas on how to increace mic gain more?
[02:30] <leotr> where are files downloaded by apt-get stored and how can i reuse them?
[02:31] <llutz> leotr: /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:31] <ubuntu_> theres no error 15 there
[02:34] <shinigami> hi all
[02:35] <shinigami> do you like kubuntu 7.04?
[02:35] <mc__> shinigami: i do
[02:35] <shinigami> ^^
[02:35] <shinigami> me 2
[02:35] <shinigami> i've just reinstalled it
[02:51] <eljefe> does anyone know how to boot VMWare files within Qemu?
[02:56] <eljefe> how do i lock my PCM volume in my KMix?  what does PCM even mean?
[02:56] <NiceGuyUK> Pulse Code Modulation
[02:56] <PhinnFort> soundthingy
[02:56] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:57] <NiceGuyUK> I know what it is, just dunno how to lock it ;)
[02:58] <NiceGuyUK> anyone know how I add programs to Katapult's list of programs it recognises?
[02:58] <PhinnFort> NiceGuyUK: throw it in the menu?
[02:59] <JuJuBee> What command can I use to find the size of the folders in my home dir?  ls -alh only shows the folders as 4K
[02:59] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: du -h
[02:59] <PhinnFort> -h for human readable numbers
[02:59] <NiceGuyUK> PhinnFort: it picks up anything thats in Kicker?
[02:59] <PhinnFort> NiceGuyUK: it picks up the .desktop files in the usual places
[02:59] <PhinnFort> i believe
[02:59] <NiceGuyUK> ah ok
[02:59] <NiceGuyUK> ta
[02:59] <PhinnFort> :P
[02:59] <JuJuBee> Thanks
[03:00] <JuJuBee> I dont want it to list all the files, just the files and or folders in the current working dir.
[03:02] <JuJuBee> I'm running out of space and I need to figure out which folders in my home dir are taking up so much.
[03:02] <eljefe> JuJuBee: use the 'du' command
[03:02] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: use filelight
[03:02] <PhinnFort> !info filelight
[03:02] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[03:02] <PhinnFort> it's pure genius for finding out what's taking space
[03:02] <kingcobra_> can somebody tell me why kopete wont connect to my gmail acc
[03:03] <PhinnFort> kingcobra_: bad karma
[03:03] <eljefe> filelight is buggy
[03:03] <PhinnFort> eljefe: how so?
[03:03] <PhinnFort> it crashes when you close it, but otherwise it's quite nice
[03:03] <kingcobra_> PhinnFort, gaim will connect tho
[03:03] <JuJuBee> I need to know what switches to use with du so It doesn't show me all files recursively.
[03:03] <PhinnFort> kingcobra_: sorry, can't help, gone for food
[03:03] <kingcobra_> PhinnFort, i think i hav the right params in right place
[03:04] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: just install filelight
[03:04] <PhinnFort> http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-utils/filelight/radial_map.png
[03:06] <kingcobra_> PhinnFort, ok
[03:07] <JuJuBee> I found it... du -hs
[03:07] <kingcobra_> can anybody help with kopete please
[03:08] <asincrono> I don't know, what's the problem?
[03:09] <kingcobra_> asincrono,  kopete wont connect to my gmail acc
[03:11] <kingcobra_> asincrono, in basic setup are you supposed to have full email add for id
[03:12] <numan> i just updated to feisty fawn and got the error for restricted driver usage,anybody know how to solve it?
[03:13] <asincrono> sorry I never connect to gmail with kopete :S
[03:14] <kingcobra_> asincrono, ok
[03:14] <asincrono> don't you need to use yahoo to connect to gmail account?
[03:14] <kingcobra_> not with gaim anyway
[03:14] <asincrono> ok, sorry
[03:14] <kingcobra_> asincrono, its a jabber network i think
[03:20] <JuJuBee> I customize my kmenu somewhat and I want the current config to be given to any new accounts created on the server.  What do I copy from the local machine to the skel folder on the server to make this happen?
[03:25] <jovans> Kde 3.5.7 for fesity lokk at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[03:30] <KiPSeRoN> somone can help me i install all the java componnets in kubuntu the sun-java6-jre jdk plugin but when i type java to run class file from java i get this error:http://pastebin.ca/502292 somone know how to solve that how i can run the class from the sun java jdk
[03:31] <paolo_> hi. i have to download a packet from /pub/Linux/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m . which is the line that I have to add in repos list, in order to manage this repository?
[03:32] <JuJuBee> Should I copy the entire .kde folder to /etc/skel if I want all newly created accounts to start with the current settings?
[03:35] <Glaf> How do i fix the nvidia driver when the nvidia kernel module have another version then the X module?
[03:36] <dwidmann> Glaf: try running the nvidia installer with --uninstall, then reinstall it.
[03:36] <paolo_> hi. i have to download a packet from /pub/Linux/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m . which is the line that I have to add in repos list, in order to manage this repository?
[03:37] <Glaf> Did that and it works. But when I restart the pc the error is back.
[03:38] <faidillinger> Hi there, has anyone got any idea on how to make firefox open a kmail new message windows when i click on a mailto link ?????
[03:38] <dwidmann> glaf, hmm, it must not be removing all versions when it does that then, darn.
[03:42] <dwidmann> Glaf, try running "sudo updatedb" then "locate nvidia | grep [sk] o", try removing the files that come up, well, only the ones in /usr/lib32 or /usr/lib/libnvidia or /usr/lib/nvidia
[03:42] <dwidmann> *I think*
[03:42] <BenWhitey> hi
[03:42] <dwidmann> hi
[03:42] <BenWhitey> can anyone help me with my interfaces file? i think i messed it up
[03:42] <dwidmann> interfaces file?
[03:42] <BenWhitey> ./etc/network/interfaces
when  i rmmod  nvidia. And then startx it works.
[03:44] <dwidmann> which package owns that file? You could try moving that file, then reinstalling the package and see if it works.
[03:44] <BenWhitey> well, i need to cinfigure it
[03:44] <BenWhitey> i'm having trouble making my wireless work
[03:45] <BenWhitey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=450987&highlight=interfaces
[03:45] <BenWhitey> its for my lapotp
[03:45] <BenWhitey> right now i'm in windows on my desktop which is wired
[03:47] <dwidmann> I've never set up a wireless network, probably best to check back later, when the channel is more active
[03:48] <dwidmann> apart from that, maybe you could find something out from this:
[03:48] <dwidmann> !wireless
[03:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:49] <elisboa> Hi, where can I find info about how to enable compiz in KDE?
[03:50] <boud> Eek... After updating to 3.5.7, kmail crashes for me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21978/
[03:51] <dwidmann> :O KDE 3.5.7 was released and I missed it? For shame (on me)
[03:52] <BenWhitey> hmm
[03:52] <BenWhitey> yeah, well i'm stumped
[03:53] <dwidmann> wait a minute ..... it was released today ... okay, I guess that isn't too bad on my part
[03:54] <calamari> hi
[03:55] <calamari> I'd like to execute a program when a certain user logs into kdm, but not when other users log in.  Where do I do this?
[03:55] <dwidmann> boud: what were you doing when it crashed?
[03:56] <spark_> hi
[03:56] <boud> dwidmann: starting kmail
[03:56] <dwidmann> calamari: well, you could save the session
[03:56] <calamari> dwidmann: the program doesn't continue to run
[03:56] <dwidmann> boud: get any extra output when starting it from konsole?
[03:57] <dwidmann> calamari: it doesn't?
[03:57] <calamari> dwidmann: correct
[03:57] <elisboa> If I $(call compiz -replace), it replaces kwin, but doesn't give a window manager. How do I fix it?
[03:57] <dwidmann> and you need it to?
[03:57] <boud> dwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21979/
[03:57] <calamari> dwidmann: no.. it just changes some settings and then terminates
[03:58] <dwidmann> calamari: just a script or something? if so ... you could put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:58] <boud> dwidmann: I can start kmail as another user
[03:58] <calamari> dwidmann: thanks!
[03:58] <boud> dwidmann: so I guess the undefined symbols don't hurt
[03:59] <dwidmann> boud: if you can start it as another user, try purging your user config
[03:59] <cewanf> Just installed KDE 3.5.7, and now the feature to move a window to another screen using a keyboard shortcut has been removed, very annoying! anyone know why?
[03:59] <dwidmann> undefined symbols means that you don't have (all of, at least) the debugging symbols installed, as far as I can understand
[04:00] <boud> dwidmann: that's what I'm doing now, but that's a problem. Given that I'm a very heavy kmail user with a lots of accounts, filters and folders.
[04:00] <dwidmann> I would reckon it would be kdepim-dbg or something
[04:00] <calamari> dwidmann: do I have to use any sort of naming scheme or does it just execute everything in that directory that can be executed?
[04:00] <dwidmann> calamari: everything
[04:00] <calamari> dwidmann: perfect.. thanks a lot :)
[04:01] <dwidmann> calamari: you're welcome
[04:01] <BluesKaj> Morning All :)
[04:01] <dwidmann> morning BluesKaj
[04:02] <sparrw> I have 4 displays.  4 monitors, 4 screens, 4 devices.  If I use just the first one, it works.  If I use just the fourth one, it works.  If I use either of the middle two then I get insufficient memory errors from X.  Help?
[04:02] <dwidmann> boud: I'm pretty sure the mail folder is seperate ... leave ~/Mail intact and see if it will start
[04:02] <cewanf> the reason I am asking this here is that I believe that the kubuntu team patched kde 3.5.6 so that this feature would be added
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> 4 displays under linux and you wonder why it doesn't work?
[04:03] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: I don't see why it would be that far-fetched, dual monitor is really easy to set up
[04:05] <boud> dwidmann: sure, and all my mail is on my server, I'm using dimap. But re-configuring six accounts, recreating all the filters and folder settings is lots of work.
[04:05] <dromer> hi all, I'm trying to create a new partition table for an old 2.5 hd of my laptop, I have it hooked up to usb, but gfdisk gives me (after writing to disk): Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed.  Reboot to update table.  a reboot doesn't fix it, the partition table is not writen
[04:05] <dromer> that's cfdisk*
[04:06] <sjapbnc5> Jo
[04:06] <Daisuke_Ido> cewanf: have you looked in the keyboard shortcuts dialog to set that particular shortcut?
[04:06] <dwidmann> boud: then try leaving those parts for now, and delete the rest of the settings, then if neccessary systematically start deleting other parts. Just trying to save you some time & effort.
[04:06] <sparrw> Daisuke_Ido: err, why wouldnt it work?  ive had it working plenty of times in the past with 4 or more
[04:06] <boud> dwidmann: yes... I'll do that.
[04:06] <Daisuke_Ido> sparrw: dunno, seems like overkill, maybe?
[04:07] <sparrw> depends on the application
[04:07] <BenWhitey> (sigh), wireless networking is so easy in windows
[04:08] <cewanf> I agree BenWhitey
[04:09] <BenWhitey> (sigh)
[04:11] <cewanf> Daisuke_Ido: yup, and it was there before I upgraded to KDE 3.5.7 which was released today
[04:12] <Daisuke_Ido> well that sucks
[04:12] <Daisuke_Ido> ever think that maybe it was just removed?
[04:12] <dwidmann> I guess I had best upgrade to kde 3.5.7 ... I hope it won't be too much trouble
[04:13] <cewanf> I wish I didn't upgrade, I really miss that feature :-(
[04:13] <cewanf> it's a great feature when working with a dual monitor setup
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> so downgrade?
[04:13] <cewanf> good idea, how do I do that?
[04:14] <cewanf> hehe
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> personally, i would have waited for a repo
[04:14] <cewanf> hmm, what do you mean? I added the kubuntu repo
[04:15] <cewanf> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357 feisty main
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, so reinstall 3.56 perhaps
[04:15] <LjL> oh, kde 3.5.7, sweet
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> they usually don't have a kubuntu repo available that soon
[04:15] <cewanf> I think they added it too fast
[04:16] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: it's been same-day a lot of times before, at worst it lags by a day or two ...
[04:16] <cewanf> how do I reinstall 3.5.6?
[04:17] <LjL> erm, how come www.kde.org doesn't have an announcement on the front page...
[04:17] <LjL> !downgrade | cewanf
[04:17] <ubotu> cewanf: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[04:17] <dwidmann> cewanf: can be ab it of a pain, just remove the repo, apt-get update, then apt-get install every last kde related package.
[04:18] <cewanf> dwidmann: okey, I will try that!
[04:18] <cewanf> ubotu: you dont recommend dwidmanns solution?
[04:18] <dwidmann> !bot
[04:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:19] <cewanf> LjL: I am not really talking about downgrading Ubuntu, but downgrading KDE, no?
[04:20] <LjL> cewanf: the concept is not very much different. you can try but it will be a pain and there's still the possibility of breaking it.
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> time to upgrade :)
[04:21] <cewanf> daarn, I have gotten so used to this feature, using it all the time now to move windows
[04:21] <lucifiel> !ubotu
[04:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> downloading 3.5.7 now
[04:23] <dwidmann> me to Daisuke_Ido
[04:23] <dwidmann> *too
[04:26] <BluesKaj> BBL
[04:29] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know how to fasten my boot times (it takes 40s, but it would be nice to get it faster)
[04:29] <mikkael> where can i setup my hotkeys in kubuntu (talking about special keyboard buttons, like volume up/down etc) ? at the moment only some of them work
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> 40s?  i'd kill for that.  i'm at at least a minute or more...
[04:30] <dwidmann>  iarwain_ booting with the "profile" option is a good place to start
[04:30] <cewanf> So this is the patch that apparently the Kubuntu team applied to 3.5.6, but were too lazy (or forgot) to apply to 3.5.7: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/xinerama/
[04:30] <iarwain_> dwidmann: gonna try right away xD see you later ;-)
[04:30] <mikkael> !hotkeys
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotkeys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <cewanf> mikkael: add kmix to applet panel, then right click on it and choose "Configure global shortcuts"
[04:31] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: I think at one point I had mine down to 18s
[04:32] <mikkael> cewanf: doesnt work
[04:33] <mikkael> cewanf: it recognizes if i configure those buttons to it, but if i press them it doesnt do
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i errored out on 3.5.7
[04:33] <cewanf> ah, special buttons? sorry, thought you were talking about regular key combinations
[04:33] <mikkael> nope, special ones
[04:33] <vit_> hello
[04:33] <vit_> anybody here
[04:33] <mikkael> cewanf: i OSD appears, but at the moment only for mute and lower volume, but not for increase volume
[04:34] <mikkael> cewanf: *a
[04:34] <RC-Needs-Help> hello vit_
[04:34] <vit_> somebody speak english or spanish?
[04:34] <vit_> how are you?
[04:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i would imagine we speak english
[04:34] <RC-Needs-Help> well n you
[04:34] <vit_> where are you from?
[04:34] <Daisuke_Ido> #kubuntu-es if you want spanish
[04:34] <RC-Needs-Help> south africa
[04:35] <vit_> very good
[04:35] <RC-Needs-Help> i cant help with anything if you wanted help
[04:35] <vit_> and what are you to do?
[04:36] <RC-Needs-Help> nothing much, just trying to learn
[04:36] <RC-Needs-Help> from people who know linux
[04:36] <arykn> Hi. I want to conect to internet. I need to change the usser name and pasword. How can I do it?
[04:37] <cewanf> seems you are connected, otherwise it would be hard joining this chat :-)
[04:37] <RC-Needs-Help> :)
[04:37] <arykn> haha, yes. but now Im using Win$
[04:37] <vit_> i don't know so much about linux
[04:37] <vit_> i like to learn a lot
[04:37] <arykn> I cant connecto me from Kubuntu
[04:38] <ads_> any way to get a windows media plyr web plugin for linux???
[04:39] <vit_> alguien habla espaol
[04:39] <vit_> ?
[04:39] <Neil-> !es
[04:39] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:39] <dwidmann> ads_: nope. Youc an play back quite a many audio/video formats with kaffeine, kmplayer, or vlc plugins though.
[04:39] <ahmed> hello,, after installing beryl and using the xgl driver now games run very slow in wine though they used to run fast,, when i change session to gnome or kde without xgl it works fine but not all the games work cause they have a problem in registry,, though they run in the xgl session ,,, PLEAZE HELP
[04:39] <vit_> gracias
[04:39] <vit_> si me entiendes
[04:40] <ads_> ahh  unfortunately my fav radio show is on the web as windows media plyr plugin    shaaame
[04:40] <ads_> cud always use vmware i guess
 do you know how to get there?
[04:40] <ahmed> hello,, after installing beryl and using the xgl driver now games run very slow in wine though they used to run fast,, when i change session to gnome or kde without xgl it works fine but not all the games work cause they have a problem in registry,, though they run in the xgl session ,,, PLEAZE HELP
[04:40] <cewanf> arykn: sorry no
[04:41] <arykn> ok, thanks
[04:41] <cewanf> ads_: try to locate the stream url, then open it in amarok
[04:41] <sdx> does anyone know why i get this error "Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0" "
[04:41] <ads_> aha  okz  ill try that
[04:41] <ads_> thanQ
[04:42] <_eMaX_> is there a way to start a kde program from the commandline so that it automatically is set to run "always on top" of other windows?
[04:45] <MetaBookfoziS> Hi all
[04:45] <purdobol> elo
[04:45] <MetaBookfoziS> has anybody working rt2561 wireless card?
[04:45] <MetaBookfoziS> i haev one, seems working, but i can't connect with it
[04:45] <BenWhitey> hmm
[04:45] <BenWhitey> i have a similar issue
[04:45] <BenWhitey> i'm waiting for a replay on the forums
[04:46] <BenWhitey> but a different card
[04:46] <vit_> somebody can help me please
[04:46] <MetaBookfoziS> i have disabled the networkmanager as others said
[04:46] <BenWhitey> i can't open networkmanager lol
[04:46] <purdobol> ;] 
[04:46] <rizoma> hi
[04:46] <MetaBookfoziS> and setted up in the interfaces my device
[04:46] <MetaBookfoziS> all cool, but i can'T get ip, and nowhere any debug output
[04:46] <BenWhitey> i think i messed up hte interfaces
[04:46] <BenWhitey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=450987
[04:47] <MetaBookfoziS> anybody knows how can we debug this ?
[04:47] <MetaBookfoziS> thx i check
[04:47] <BenWhitey> thats mine
[04:47] <BenWhitey> lol
[04:47] <BenWhitey> you won't find a solution
[04:47] <MetaBookfoziS> :/
[04:47] <BenWhitey> at least i dont' think you will
[04:47] <thomax> I've got a fat32 external HD with 2 partitions, when I mount 'em in kubuntu I've got 2gb free space on it, when I mount it in windows I've got 30gb free space on it, any ideas?
[04:47] <iarwain_> dwidmann: 'profile' only saved me 3 seconds =)
[04:48] <BenWhitey> thomax>  maybe your partition tables are messed up?
[04:48] <thomax> how can it be that it gives correct free space in windows and not in linux?
[04:49] <BenWhitey> no clue
[04:49] <blekos__> hi, i've run this command rsync -arvu /home /etc /opt
[04:49] <calamari> thomax: did you already do a scandisk or a fsck?
[04:49] <thomax> nop
[04:49] <blekos__> but somehow it copies itself to / partition
[04:49] <blekos__> is there a way to reverse it or find duplicate entries?
[04:49] <vit_> chapaopo nopo quipisipieperonpo apayupudarpa. nopo propoblempe, esperonpo nopo nepecepesipitenpe depe mipi
[04:49] <calamari> thomax: fat32 gets messed up all the time.. I'd recommend it, just in case
[04:50] <Guest_826_> How can aces to my internet conections information?
[04:50] <Guest_826_>  I want to change the login user name and password
[04:50] <vit_> of wa
[04:51] <MetaBookfoziS> wtf is ra0:avahi?
[04:53] <boud> Argh. It turns out to be completely impossible to rebuild my kmail dimap cache with 3.5.7 :-(
[04:54] <DarkFeeling> hi can i speak spanish in here?
[04:54] <DarkFeeling> seems like no ok
[04:55] <DarkFeeling> is there any command to know the KDE version im using now? so i can download the correct theme from kde-lok.com
[04:56] <Sanne> DarkFeeling: click help/about kde in any kde program, should give you the info
[04:56] <thomax> Free cluster summary wrong (2059 vs. really 426441)
[04:56] <thomax> this was the prob
[04:56] <_eMaX_> is there a way to start a kde program from the commandline so that it automatically is set to run "always on top" of other windows?
[04:56] <calamari> thomax: good 'ol fat32 :)
[04:58] <DarkFeeling> Sanne, thanks!!
[04:58] <Sanne> DarkFeeling: you're welcome :)
[04:58] <calamari> _eMaX_: http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=15748
[04:58] <bch> what is latest version of kde?
[04:59] <iarwain_> bch: 3.5.7 i think
[04:59] <bch> im showing 3.5.5 as whats installed
[04:59] <bch> not too far off then. thanks
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> bch: you're running edgy
[04:59] <bch> yeah
[04:59] <iarwain_> anyone know how to fasten the wireless connecting? (takes about a minute to connect to my WPA-wifi)
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, pretty close, looks like only a few minor changes between
[05:00] <blekos__> i have and external hd, can anyoen tell me the command to have a FULL system backup there with tar?
[05:00] <bch> i support about 6 people running ubuntu. the two newest hires are running feisty, so I will have switch if I ever get time
[05:01] <pisq> am now running ubuntu 7.04, just installed last night.
[05:01] <bch> blekos, you ever use rsync? it will get all your files, but don't expect to reinstall from the backup files.
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i did something horrible
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i installed ubuntu-desktop
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> haven't used gnome since 6.06, maybe it's nicer now
[05:03] <dorin_> How can i set refresh rate to 60Hz using nvidia-glx? I can do this only using nvidia-glx-legacy. Thanks!
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> and something has GOT to be done about making the other language channels known around here.
[05:04] <thomax> thomas@linuxbox:~$ fsck.vfat /dev/sde2
[05:04] <thomax> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[05:04] <calamari> Daisuke_Ido: one thing about gnome... it never gets nicer, it only gets worse.. they take away features on each release
[05:04] <thomax> There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
[05:04] <thomax> Differences: (offset:original/backup)
[05:04] <thomax>   65:01/00
[05:04] <thomax> 1) Copy original to backup
[05:04] <thomax> 2) Copy backup to original
[05:04] <thomax> 3) No action
[05:05] <thomax> what to do?
[05:05] <LjL> copy original to backup
[05:05] <thomax> thanks
[05:05] <thomax> Free cluster summary wrong (69545 vs. really 1266724)
[05:05] <thomax> 1) Correct
[05:05] <thomax> 2) Don't correct
[05:05] <calamari> Daisuke_Ido: that's why I switched to KDE .. they seem to be keeping stuff around.. if that ever changes, goodbye KDE as well :)
[05:06] <thomax> I suppose 1 over here
[05:06] <calamari> thomax: ya
[05:06] <rizoma> hi, my kubuntu sometimes shutdown , where i can read some logs to understand what's going on? (sorry for bad english)
[05:06] <thomax> it says: Leaving file system unchanged.
[05:06] <_eMaX_> thanks
[05:07] <calamari> thomax: did you run with sufficient permissions?
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> thomax: here's what you do: you use pastebin for long pastes like that.
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> mmmkay?
 yeah sorry, had not to much time
[05:08] <thomax>  <calamari> good idea ^^
[05:08] <calamari> bbl
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> be back eventually
[05:08] <galathalion> halp! Opera wont start! I klick the icon and its loading but then it just vanish and nothing happens! pls help me.
[05:09] <iarwain_> hiya, someone knows why my wireless connects so slowly? (i have a WPA2 wifi)
[05:09] <thomax> permisions don't change shit
[05:09] <iarwain_> galathalion: try running it via konsole?
[05:09] <thomax> :'(
[05:09] <galathalion> iarwain_: still wont start.
[05:10] <iarwain_> galathalion: do you get an error?
[05:10] <galathalion> iarwain_: yeah.. a pretty big one.
[05:11] <iarwain_> galathalion: it would be helpful if you pastebin'ed that ;-)
[05:11] <galathalion> iarwain_: how does it work?
[05:11] <hydan> opensuse or kubuntu?
[05:11] <hydan> are there preconfigurations, saved desktop settings that make your desktop like suse's?
[05:12] <iarwain_> galathalion: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , paste your error, get the link, paste link here xD
[05:12] <galathalion> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21984/
[05:12] <galathalion> :D
[05:13] <MidMark> hi, someone can tell me if in his/her ubuntu installation has one partition in fstab and if yes if it's shown in media:/ list?
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> gnome still sucks
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> took me less than a minute to realize that :D
[05:14] <iarwain_> galathalion: did you install sun-java5-jre ? or sun-java6-jre?
[05:17] <galathalion> iarwain_: no
[05:17] <rizoma> http://pastebin.ca/502491 someone can help me?
[05:18] <iarwain_> galathalion: install it then ;-) 'sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre'
[05:18] <galathalion> iarwain_: ok :>
[05:19] <galathalion> iarwain_: should it work then?
[05:19] <iarwain_> galathalion: i suppose it should
[05:20] <galathalion> ok.. exiting.
[05:20] <galathalion> :D
[05:26] <Haydar`> ok :) i fixed sound
[05:26] <Haydar`> anyone
[05:26] <Haydar`> if i install beryl
[05:26] <Haydar`> and i play a fullscreened 3D game
[05:26] <Haydar`> will it effect the fps
[05:26] <Haydar`> or
[05:27] <iarwain_> Haydar`: try full sentences ;-) and no, if you Disable Beryl, it will not affect your fps (as far as i know)
[05:28] <Haydar`> okay, so if i install beryl and play a 3D game it wont effect the frames
[05:28] <iarwain_> Haydar`: if you disable beryl before playing ;-) (changing back to kwin will do)
[05:29] <hydan> last night i mentioned that installed kde4base which ended up using 600+mb of hard drive space, when i did apt-get remove, only 300+mb were removed. Someone recommended I use Aptitude, I tried it whenever I wanted to remove Evolution, and it did the same thing the apt-get remove command did, and left dependencies i didn't need. Is there a better package management system?
[05:29] <jermain> hi everyone
[05:30] <jermain> i said HI! Now acknowledge my precence and bow down, you mere humans!
[05:30] <iarwain_> hydan: when i use aptitude, it tells me what packages are not needed anymore, and deletes them aswell. Could it be that some packages needed by Evolution are needed by other programs aswell?) Don't know anything about KDE4 though
[05:30] <jermain> ;)
[05:30] <iarwain_> jermain: ;o
[05:30] <dwidmann> :O looks like one of my most hated kde+xinerama related bugs is fixed in kde 3.5.7 :)
[05:31] <jermain> low priority question: does anyone here play freeciv?
[05:31] <hydan> thanks iarwain_
[05:32] <iarwain_> hydan: np's =)
[05:32] <hydan> :)
[05:32] <jermain> !freeciv
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freeciv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <bch> jermain, i tried freeciv several times over the years and never really liked it
[05:32] <jermain> lol, well i could try haha
[05:32] <bch> it just doesnt compare to the real civ games
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> hydan: apitude
[05:32] <jermain> bch: icic i like it but i have this returning problem
[05:33] <bch> well, i can't help ya ;)
[05:33] <jermain> i dunno when a trade route makes a profit ><
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> or try apt-get autoremove
[05:33] <jermain> hehe
[05:33] <jermain> dang
[05:34] <who_> how come ktorrent cuts off my modem??
[05:34] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago!!!
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean cuts off?
[05:34] <who_> it make it stop working
[05:35] <who_> all lights go blank
[05:35] <Haydar`> hmm people can hear my ingame sounds
[05:35] <Haydar`> and i can hear my self when i talk
[05:35] <who_> only when running ktorrent
[05:35] <brian_> its saying get broadband ;-) jp
[05:35] <Haydar`> anyone know how to fix this :P
[05:35] <jthomas> good day!  does anyone know, is Launchpad down?  I want to make a bugreport but it keeps telling me to try later.
[05:36] <who_> its cable it is broadband
[05:36] <who_> :)
[05:36] <Haydar`> anyone ?
[05:36] <brian_> who: yes
[05:36] <jthomas> Haydar`: whats the issue?  sorry just joined
[05:37] <dwidmann> o.O maybe your ISP just doesn't like bittorrent, or something
[05:37] <biblioteca> hi
[05:37] <Haydar`> hmm people can hear my ingame sounds
[05:37] <Haydar`> anyone know how to fix this :P
[05:37] <Haydar`> and i can hear my self when i talk
[05:37] <Haydar`> i know it has something to do with mute and stuff
[05:37] <SlimeyPete> Haydar`: move further away from the speakers?...
[05:37] <Haydar`> SlimeyPete
[05:37] <who_> hmmm that sux
[05:37] <Haydar`> its a headset
[05:37] <Haydar`> Sennheiser :P
[05:37] <who_> thx
[05:37] <jthomas> yes i'd say its a feedback issue, either move further away or find a way to 'dull' the sensitivity on your mic
[05:38] <jthomas> i've not noticed that on my headset
[05:38] <jthomas> do you have your plugs in wrong somehow?
[05:39] <Haydar`> its all fine the plugs
[05:39] <Haydar`> maybe its in the settings
[05:39] <Haydar`> of the mixer
[05:42] <Dushmol> Bjr tt le monde
[05:45] <faidillinger> bjr
[05:45] <jthomas> Haydar`: in Audacity there is a way to capture the speaker output as an input, maybe its something similar
[05:46] <jthomas> do you have the JACK running?  it might be something there
[05:46] <Haydar`> its not that
[05:46] <Haydar`> it has something to do
[05:46] <Haydar`> with muting and stuff
[05:46] <Haydar`> on windows i can talk normally without people hearing
[05:46] <jthomas> i'm not sure then, good luck
[05:46] <Haydar`> my ingame sounds
[05:49] <jthomas> good day!  does anyone know, is Launchpad down?  I want to make a bugreport but it keeps telling me to try later.
[05:49] <lucky_lucas> does anyone noticed a problem with adept and kde 3.5.7 ? I think it removed the ubuntu way of managing repos ?
[05:49] <jthomas> lucky_lucas: from where did you get 3.5.7??  unless its an official package it may have done somethig...
[05:50] <jthomas> but i don't know for sure
[05:50] <lucky_lucas> jthomas: It had been released today
[05:50] <Jucato> jthomas: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[05:50] <lucky_lucas> it's available  in hte kubuntu repos
[05:50] <jthomas> awesome!  but is it in ubuntu's repo?
[05:50] <Jucato> 3.5.7 is officially released
[05:50] <jthomas> no kidding?
[05:50] <ejupin> jthomas: www.kde.org
[05:50] <lucky_lucas> no
[05:51] <jthomas> and its already in the official repos?
[05:51] <ejupin> yep
[05:51] <damien_> bonjour y aurait il un francais
[05:51] <lucky_lucas> but it seems to destroy the way kubuntu manage repository
[05:51] <Jucato> jthomas: check the announcement
[05:51] <Jucato> !fr | damien_
[05:51] <ubotu> damien_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:51] <lucky_lucas> damien_: oui
[05:51] <Jucato> lucky_lucas: please explain
[05:51] <ejupin> lucky_lucas: i did the update via apt-get, no problems at all here
[05:52] <damien_> j ai 2 ou 3 questions a propos de mandriva???
[05:52] <lucky_lucas> Jucato: Kubuntu display a little window on top of adept with tabs to check authentifiaction and stuff like that
[05:52] <damien_> qq un pourrait il me renseigner svp
[05:52] <lucky_lucas> damien_: va sur ubuntu-fr
[05:52] <Jucato> damien_: please English only
[05:53] <lucky_lucas> Jucato:
[05:53] <lucky_lucas> for example in the release of 3.5.7 it mentions that click the auth... tab
[05:54] <damien_> j y suis aller et c pour ca que je suis la j ai rien trouver
[05:54] <Jucato> !fr | damien_
[05:54] <ubotu> damien_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:54] <jthomas> aah yes, those packages... its nice to get them quickly but i've had enough of trying to update from the KDE people/ Jonathan Riddell.  They work but always cause me problems down the road.  I learned not to do that back with SuSE and i am not starting with it again!
[05:55] <blackflag> how can I backup a route table?
[05:55] <jthomas> (nothing against Jonathan Riddell!)
[05:55] <neverblue> http://pastebin.ca/502597 <-- can someone look at my xorg.conf to setup duals?
[05:55] <jthomas> neverblue: ATI or NVidia?
[05:55] <neverblue> SiS + onboard Intel
[05:56] <jthomas> mmm... not sure, look at this tho http://www.ubuntux.org/howto-setup-dual-monitors-with-nvidia-in-ubuntu
[05:56] <OptimusRex> Hi all. Can someone remind me how to go into konsole and change my display settings. What is the command to type in?
[05:56] <jthomas> may give you some hints, but i cannot look into it right now for you
[05:56] <neverblue> um, its not an nvidia card, btw
[05:56] <jthomas> kcontrol
[05:57] <neverblue> but thanks tough
[05:57] <neverblue> though*
[05:57] <jthomas> neverblue: just for the setup/hints that it might give you
[05:57] <neverblue> jthomas, i hand wrote the xorg.conf myself
[05:57] <Jucato> !xconfig | OptimusRex
[05:57] <neverblue> I know a thing or two ;)
[05:57] <ubotu> OptimusRex: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[05:58] <jthomas> neverblue: cool, because i really don't! lol
[06:04] <duiliu> slack rox
[06:04] <duiliu> slackware
[06:04] <OptimusRex> thanks for that Ubotu. Will try that. Will also write that down.
[06:04] <Ober0ne> *sigh* more mounting problems
[06:04] <Jucato> !thanks | OptimusRex
[06:04] <ubotu> OptimusRex: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:05] <Ober0ne> ok, so I tried to mount a sata drive and now I don't have access to my /media folder
[06:05] <AUHUhauhaua> hello duiliu
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[06:05] <duiliu> slackare rox
[06:05] <duiliu> kubuntu dudes
[06:05] <BWolf85> ?
[06:06] <duiliu> helo dudes
[06:06] <BWolf85> hi dude
[06:06] <AUHUhauhaua> uauahua...so jorge est de voltaaa
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[06:06] <Ownatik> gtfo.
[06:06] <duiliu> sao jorgeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:06] <AUHUhauhaua> duiliu: sem noo
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[06:07] <duiliu> rai lugue is agai
[06:07] <duiliu> my name is duikl
[06:07] <AUHUhauhaua> lucas gambiarra
[06:07] <AUHUhauhaua> uahuaua
[06:07] <nicolai_> !moderator
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moderator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <duiliu> my name is duiliiop
[06:07] <AUHUhauhaua> hello nicolai_ are you embaando mano ...ta de ca ?
[06:07] <duiliu> I'm looking for a guy
[06:08] <AUHUhauhaua> owwww ....a gay person on this chanel
[06:08] <Ober0ne> lol
[06:08] <Ober0ne> thank you LjL
[06:08] <AUHUhauhaua> why yoy banned de guy ?
[06:09] <AUHUhauhaua> just because he is gay !?
[06:09] <LjL> 1) i didn't. 2) seems pretty obvious.
[06:09] <AUHUhauhaua> uahuahauha
[06:09] <LjL> 3) you're clones aren't you
[06:10] <Ober0ne> ljl, you have a few spare minutes?
[06:10] <devcenter> hello guyes
[06:10] <jpnurmi> does 3.5.7 update fix the konqueror+gmail problem?
[06:10] <AUHUhauhaua> no you arent ?
[06:10] <LjL> Ober0ne: i think so
[06:10] <devcenter> i need a mail notification for kde
[06:10] <dr_willis> devcenter,  and what kind of mail? gmail? hotmail? just normal mail?
[06:10] <AUHUhauhaua> i was just stablishing a conversation with him
[06:10] <devcenter> gmail
[06:11] <nicolai_> Oberone: try typing this in '/'  ls -lah
[06:11] <devcenter> i need a that function with any protocols
[06:11] <Ober0ne> is the L ah?
[06:11] <dr_willis> !find gmail
[06:11] <Ober0ne> sorry, is that* Lah?
[06:11] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail, checkgmail, enigmail-locale-ca, enigmail-locale-cs, enigmail-locale-de (and 21 others)
[06:11] <nicolai_> Oberone: ls -lah
[06:12] <dr_willis> ive used checkgmail, and i think thers a kde equilivent also.
[06:12] <Ober0ne> dr-x
[06:12] <nicolai_> Oberone: It tells you information on the subfolders
[06:12] <devcenter> but checkmail is not gnome
[06:12] <LjL> Ober0ne i've never had SATA... "you don't have acess to /media" what do you mean precisely?
[06:12] <hakaisoutwo> dr_willis: what are you looking to do?
[06:12] <kane__> So, i wanted to be able to open gui applications on a computer over SSH.  IE, i want to application to open up on the computer i am SSHing into.  Is that possible?  i think you have tto use the screen env var, but for the life of me i cant recall
[06:13] <Ober0ne> I click on the storage media icon on the system menu, and it says...
[06:13] <dr_willis> theres gnome and kde, checkgmail programs (for the panel) and i think theres several karamba/gdesklets variants also that do it.
[06:13] <Ober0ne> "Unable to enter file:///media, you do not have access rights to this location
[06:13] <Ober0ne> "
[06:13] <hakaisou> hmmm
[06:13] <hakaisou> do you use firefox?
[06:13] <hakaisou> just curious
[06:13] <LjL> Ober0ne:  ls -l / | grep media 
[06:14] <Ober0ne> ok
[06:14] <dr_willis> try replacing file:///media with media:/ or /media
[06:14] <Ober0ne> I'm going into it from a menu... I don't think I have that option
[06:15] <Ober0ne> "ls -l / | grep media" gives info on my cdrom, which I have no worries about
[06:15] <Haydar`> When i got to alsamixer
[06:15] <Haydar`> and mic
[06:15] <Haydar`> and press M
[06:15] <Haydar`> it doesnt mute
[06:15] <LjL> i'm not interested in the cdrom line Ober0ne, but in the media line.
[06:15] <Ober0ne> and says... dr-x------   1 root root 90112 2007-05-20 10:48 media
[06:15] <Haydar`> also with kmix
[06:15] <Haydar`> anyone ?
[06:16] <LjL> Ober0ne: the permissions are indeed wrong.
[06:16] <Ober0ne> ok, I don't know how to change permissions yet
[06:16] <Ober0ne> my linux+ text is unclear on the matter
[06:16] <LjL> Ober0ne:  sudo chmod a+rx /media ; sudo chmod u+wrx /media 
[06:16] <LjL> then try again
[06:16] <nicolai_> Oberone: the following command should give you read/access rights
[06:16] <nicolai_> OberOne: sudo chmod -R 733 '/media'
[06:16] <nicolai_> sorry
[06:16] <nicolai_> wait
[06:17] <nicolai_> OberOne: sudo chmod 733 '/media'
[06:17] <Ober0ne> chmod: changing permissions of `/media': Read-only file system
[06:17] <LjL> Ober0ne: rea...? type  mount 
[06:18] <Ober0ne> !pastebin
[06:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:18] <Ober0ne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21999/
[06:19] <LjL>  /dev/sdc1 on /media type ntfs (rw)
[06:19] <LjL> you've tried to mount /dev/sdc1 *on* the /media directory itself
[06:19] <LjL> what is /dev/sdc1?
[06:19] <LjL> Ober0ne: i'd assume some Windows partition that you want to be mounted somewhere, correct?
[06:19] <Ober0ne> yes
[06:19] <Ober0ne> sadly
[06:20] <LjL> Ober0ne: type  sudo umount /media ; sudo mkdir /media/sdc1 ; sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1 
[06:20] <Ober0ne> I'm still trying to get all my information removed from windows so it can all be linux
[06:20] <Ober0ne> ok, I did that
[06:20] <Ober0ne> now I have access to media
[06:20] <Ober0ne> BUT
[06:21] <Ober0ne> now I don't have sufficient rights to access sdc1
[06:21] <LjL> no indeed, the command i gave you only allows root to access it
[06:21] <LjL> !ntfs
[06:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:21] <LjL> follow the instructions here (if you need read access only), or use ntfs-3g if you really have to get write access
[06:21] <Ober0ne> oh, I have diskmounter
[06:22] <Daisuke_Ido> now i think i know why that one guy was having such a problem with kde 3.5.7
[06:22] <Daisuke_Ido> he said the keyboard shortcuts for moving windows between *desktops* is gone, though it's still there, but he meant moving between *displays*
[06:23] <Ober0ne> but it's telling there's a read/write error
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> which is not.  explains why i couldn't help
[06:23] <Ober0ne> lol, and ntfsfix refuses to work on it
[06:25] <LjL> Ober0ne: if the partition is corrupted, you need to fire up windows and chkdsk it.
[06:25] <Ober0ne> *sigh*
[06:25] <Ober0ne> I hate windows
[06:25] <RadiantFire> as well you should
[06:25] <nizo2> hy
[06:25] <Ober0ne> y'know, someone told me the other day that linux is not as powerful as windows
[06:25] <Ober0ne> I had to laugh
[06:25] <nizo2> german ?
[06:26] <LjL> it
[06:26] <RadiantFire> so, on a different note, has anyone installed the new 3.5.7 packages?
[06:26] <LjL> it's not necessarily a false statement, just meaningless.
[06:26] <RadiantFire> are there any bugs
[06:26] <nicolai_> OberOne: Grasping for straws, but try:   sudo chmod 733 '/media/sdc1'
[06:26] <Sanne> !de | nizo2
[06:26] <ubotu> nizo2: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:27] <nizo2> thx
[06:27] <Sanne> :)
[06:27] <Ober0ne> nope, I give up
[06:27] <Ober0ne> I'll work on it later
[06:28] <neverblue> can I (via cli) change a screen's (ihave duals) res and depth manually?
[06:29] <RadiantFire> neverblue: sometimes you can do it with the xrandr program
[06:30] <RadiantFire> neverblue: I'm not sure about depth
[06:30] <neverblue> yeah, that fails when I select it in my menu
[06:30] <neverblue> sudo xrandr
[06:30] <neverblue> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[06:30] <neverblue> ouch
[06:30] <neverblue> thats not good :)
[06:30] <Kite_DH> hello, i have the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=eeebe705632be468ee0ae8eff56aa6af&t=424078
[06:30] <Kite_DH> but i dont know how to change the files
[06:30] <RadiantFire> neverblue: no, thats no good, thats actually a bug in xrandr
[06:30] <Kite_DH> im on the feisty live-CD rightnow
[06:31] <neverblue> RadiantFire, work around?
[06:31] <Kite_DH> i mounted my HD, and if i try to change the files, it says i cant save them
[06:31] <RadiantFire> neverblue: thats all I know of, I know you can also change resolution in system-settings under monitor & display
[06:31] <RadiantFire> but thats not cli
[06:31] <neverblue> yeah
[06:32] <neverblue> np, thanks though
[06:32] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: is it an NTFS-drive?
[06:32] <Kite_DH> i think so, yes
[06:32] <neverblue> Kite_DH, are you installing on a MAC?
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> if it's a mac, why would it have an ntfs drive?
[06:33] <Kite_DH> no i tried to upgrade from edgy to feisty via konsole
[06:33] <neverblue> thats what I was going to say..
[06:33] <Kite_DH> and now it wont boot anymore
[06:33] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: so it is your old Linux drive?
[06:33] <Kite_DH> yes
[06:33] <neverblue> but the URL posted is related to a MAC having issues
[06:33] <Kite_DH> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=eeebe705632be468ee0ae8eff56aa6af&t=424078
[06:33] <Kite_DH> then it wont boot anymore
[06:33] <Kite_DH> after the fsck
[06:33] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: then it is an ext3 drive
[06:33] <Kite_DH> and then i searched the forum and i found that
[06:33] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: You have it mounted?
[06:33] <Kite_DH> and now im trying to change the files
[06:33] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: yes nicolai_
[06:34] <neverblue> and since he said, "i think so", its a good idea to possibly eliminate that as the issue
[06:34] <Kite_DH> im mounted to /sda1/
[06:34] <neverblue> so my question is logical to his issue
[06:34] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: what is the the mountpoint? hda1?
[06:34] <Kite_DH> sda1
[06:34] <Kite_DH> i tried to change it with nano
[06:34] <Kite_DH> root@ubuntu:~# nano /etc/event.d/tty1
[06:34] <Kite_DH> root@ubuntu:~#
[06:34] <Kite_DH> but its still the same as before
[06:34] <Kite_DH> even tho i saved it
[06:34] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: not media/sda1? Just want to be certain :)
[06:35] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: media:/sda1/
[06:35] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: sudo chmod -R 777 'media/sda1'
[06:35] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: sudo chmod -R 777 '/media/sda1'
[06:35] <nicolai_> I'm just not good at typing today :P
[06:35] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: chmod: Zugriff auf /media/sda1 nicht mglich: No such file or directory
[06:35] <Kite_DH> not granted
[06:36] <Kite_DH> thats there the files are i have to edit : media:/sda1/etc/event.d
[06:36] <Kite_DH> tty1 to 6
[06:36] <Kite_DH> everytime the last 2 lines
[06:37] <nicolai_> Kite_DH:    media:/ works no matter where the mountpoint is. Try looking in /media
[06:38] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: The two other logical locations would be the root or home folder
[06:38] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: media:/sda1/media/cdrom0 ??
[06:38] <galathalion> libjvm.so libawt.so <-- what is this and why arnt they working for me?
[06:38] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: thats all what in /media/ is
[06:39] <neverblue> can I (via cli) change a screen's (ihave duals) res and depth manually? my second monitor is falling to a res not specified in my xorg.conf
[06:39] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: hehe. You shouldn't start with 'media:/'. try '/sda1' and '/home/ubuntu/sda1'
[06:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: but the files are in /mnt/sda1/etc/event.d/
[06:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: oh! now it works
[06:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: i had to go in there with nano
[06:41] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: You fixed the problem?
[06:42] <roggers> hi
[06:42] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: almost
[06:43] <roggers> how can change the style of kpassivepopups?
[06:46] <sakabatou> People : http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
[06:50] <_buz> is there any howto on building LRM for a kernel.org kernel? (2.6.21.1 fixes a number of annoying bugs with my thinkpad)
[06:51] <sercik> hi can anyone help me on how to uninstall nvidia driver??
[06:51] <_buz> did you install it by hand
[06:52] <neverblue> sercik, use the ubuntu guide (google it)
[06:52] <neverblue> it will explain how to do it properly
[06:52] <sercik> hi _buz i have installed the official nvidia
[06:53] <_buz> theres an --uninstall or something like that parameter to the nvidia binary
[06:53] <_buz> use that
[06:53] <sercik> i have searched but it seems that doesn't exists that parameter
[06:53] <_buz> something like that exists
[06:53] <_buz> i have used it myself
[06:53] <sercik> sorry you are right
[06:54] <sercik> i haven't seen it is on advanced options
[06:54] <Jack31> is there a way to have an option in konqueror for run using script
[06:54] <Jack31> like in nautilus
[06:55] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: hey, i edited the files now
[06:55] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: i didnt make a dist-upgrade after the upgrade to feisty, do you think i can do that now?
[06:58] <nashk> Hi guys, I was wondering, is it possible to have a dual-monitor-big-desktop setup usint the ati oss drivers?
[06:59] <nashk> All forums seem to expect fglrx
[06:59] <_buz> no, use xinerama
[06:59] <nashk> With xinerama, I would have to use the binary ones?
[06:59] <_buz> no
[06:59] <_buz> works with oss
[06:59] <fdoving> nashk: yes you can with xrandr support and mergedfb. xinerama is not the way to go for the oss ati driver.
[07:00] <nashk> fdoving, thanks, do you know of any good walkthroughs to use these?
[07:00] <fdoving> nashk: this is one of my setups: http://frode.kde.no/misc/xorg.conf - with the oss ati driver.
[07:00] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm trying to install the proprietry ati drivers, but when I try to load the module I get a "fatal error" what am I doing wrong?
[07:00] <nashk> cool, is it big desktop?
[07:01] <fdoving> nashk: it's not a walkthrough, but you'll figure it out. it's setup for a 1024x768+1280x1024
[07:01] <nashk> ok, thanks, but just to make sure: is it a big desktop setup?
[07:02] <fdoving> nashk: 'man radeon' from the commandline if you need more info on the options. what do you mean by big desktop? - it's like one screen to the right of the other, you can move windows and all.
[07:03] <nashk> fdoving: Does the tool bar extend on both monitors, or just the primary one?
[07:03] <hakaisou> crud...
[07:03] <hakaisou> anyone here know anything about FLTK?
[07:03] <fdoving> nashk: i belive you can set that in the kde settings. select what you want.
[07:04] <PhinnFort> !compile | kubuntian
[07:04] <ubotu> kubuntian: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:04] <nashk> ok, thanks. I'll check it out.
[07:04] <hakaisou> that doesn't help...
[07:04] <Lunar_Lamp> !ati
[07:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:05] <hakaisou> i'm getting an error when I try to compile the code I downloaded
[07:05] <kubuntian> i am getting the following error while trying to compile kile, could you tell me what i am missing?
[07:05] <kubuntian> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[07:05] <kubuntian> kdelibs4-dev?
[07:05] <PhinnFort> yeah
[07:05] <Haydar`> lo
[07:05] <PhinnFort> (3.5 - 3) * 10 - 1
[07:06] <dr_willis> ! (3.5 - 3) * 10 - 1
[07:06] <dr_willis> ! (3.5 - 3) * 10 - 1 = 4
[07:07] <neverblue> can I (via cli) change a screen's (ihave duals) res and depth manually? my second monitor is falling to a res not specified in my xorg.conf
[07:07] <dr_willis> thats all controlleed by the xorg.conf that file is just a text file.. so yes you can change it manually :)
[07:07] <dr_willis> theres also helper tools to tweak it.
[07:08] <dr_willis> what video card you got?
[07:08] <hakaisou> !X11
[07:08] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:08] <hakaisou> WROOOOOONG!
[07:08] <hakaisou> ugh...
[07:08] <hakaisou> or maybe not, what do i know...
[07:08] <dr_willis> hakaisou,  heh? order of operators? :)
[07:09] <neverblue> dr_willis, this situation is a bit more in depth
[07:09] <rothchild> hi please can someone help me troubleshoot a xorg problem with kubuntu feisty please?
[07:09] <hakaisou> i'm trying to install FLTK, but when I compile it i get this error
[07:09] <hakaisou> configure: error: Configure could not find required X11 libraries
[07:09] <neverblue> i have edited the xorg.conf, but the res is going to one i didnt specify in the xorg.conf
[07:10] <hakaisou> so my question is, where do i download the libraries?
[07:10] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: are you there ??
[07:10] <dr_willis> hakaisou,  for most libs theres also a simileray named -dev package for the developer parts.
[07:11] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Jep. Back in normal kubuntu?
[07:12] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: no, but the "Unknown stanza" messages are now gone, i still cant boot at all
[07:12] <rothchild> I've got a lot of 'could not init font path element'
[07:12] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: it now looks like this http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1086
[07:12] <animimotus> hi
[07:12] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: and it stays like this for ever
[07:12] <Kite_DH> animimotus: hi
[07:12] <dr_willis> rothchild,  those often come from xfont directories being mentioned/listed but not existing. normally not a issue.
[07:13] <hakaisou> no go on that captain....
[07:13] <animimotus> when I clic an url konqueror when me to dl it as a file instead to open it :] 
[07:13] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: It sound like some part of the drive isn't accesible
[07:13] <animimotus> * want
[07:13] <dr_willis> animimotus,  thats often a server side issue.
[07:13] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: how can i make it accesible
[07:14] <davem> I need to install ubuntu server via network.  I can boot from CD/DVD but that's about it.  Does anyone have an RTFM reference on how to do this?
[07:14] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: did you run this command from before?    sudo chmod -R 777 *
[07:14] <animimotus> dr_willis: the server is google :)
[07:14] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: whats the *
[07:14] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: sda1 ?
[07:15] <animimotus> I think it a worse bind between application en file extention (php ?)
[07:15] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: The asterix is the real location of the drive
[07:15] <animimotus> * and
[07:15] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Yeah
[07:15] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: /dev/sda1 ?
[07:15] <rothchild> @dr_willis thanks maybe it's this 'no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) ?
[07:15] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: i ran it, and now?
[07:16] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: what dit it say?
[07:16] <Kite_DH> root@ubuntu:/# sudo chmod -R 777 /dev/sda1
[07:16] <Kite_DH> root@ubuntu:/#
[07:16] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: ok
[07:17] <neverblue> i have just setup my system to run duals, I am having an issue with changing the res on the second screen (SiS 300 + ATI Rage), I edited my xorg.conf to only have "higher" res, but its falling on 800x600, anything I can do to change it?
[07:17] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: i didnt make a dist-upgrade after the upgrade to feisty, can i run it when im only mounted??
[07:17] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: i forgot to do a dist-upgrade :-(
[07:17] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: maybe that causes that
[07:18] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: I might have been a little hasty before. The chmod command cave complete access to everything for everyone, it might be a good idea to change it later, but wait a second.
[07:18] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: I have a hard time seeing how you dist-upgrade from a live-cd.
[07:18] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: oh
[07:19] <goxenul> hi all :)
[07:19] <Kite_DH> goxenul: hey hey
[07:19] <dr_willis> rothchild,  that would be VERY VERY impiorntant info there. :)
[07:19] <dr_willis> rothchild,  check lspci and see aht Busid it says for your video card
[07:20] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: An alternate cd or when logged in by normal means would probably be fairly easy, but the other thing is too hard for me to grasp.
[07:20] <blekos__> anybody knows how i can change encoding in vlc
[07:20] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: so its not possible to run a dist-upgrade from a live-cd?
[07:20] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Do you want to make sure access is properly configured now?
[07:20] <SlimeyPete> blekos__: encoding?
[07:20] <SlimeyPete> VLC is a player, not an encoder...
[07:21] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: I haven't heard about doing it while in the graphical environment.
[07:21] <SlimeyPete> although I guess it does encode when using it over a network, iirc
[07:21] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: hm..
[07:21] <blekos__> i cannot have subtitles displayed correctly,
[07:21] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: All the normal commands would affect the live-cd session, not the installed system
[07:21] <blekos__> so i have to change the encoding?
[07:21] <blekos__> to my ISO
[07:21] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: but im mounted to the installed system
[07:22] <neverblue> i have just setup my system to run duals, I am having an issue with changing the res on the second screen (SiS 300 + ATI Rage), I edited my xorg.conf to only have "higher" res, but its falling on 800x600, anything I can do to change it?
[07:22] <brian_> anyone know why adept says theres another process is using the packagine system database
[07:22] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: isnt it possible to run it on that?
[07:22] <n0n4m3-> guys what do you think http://shrani.si/files/linuxwallp10wy7.jpg ?:D
[07:22] <timmay> hey all
[07:22] <n0n4m3-> my first pic in gimp
[07:22] <n0n4m3-> :p
[07:22] <brian_> nice n0n4m3
[07:22] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: but the system only understands this as a drive. If you had two installations of Kubuntu installed and mounted, which one should it choose?
[07:23] <n0n4m3-> thanks
[07:23] <n0n4m3-> :)
[07:23] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: uh..
[07:23] <rothchild> @dr_willis 00:02.1 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM.. etc is that the one?
[07:23] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: so theres no way to boot the system now?
[07:24] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: We can probably make it bootable first, then fix the upgrade afterwards, while in the proper session.
[07:24] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: how can we make it bootable?? :)
[07:24] <rothchild> @dr_willis I also have a warning in Xorg.log about Bad V_Bios checksum
[07:25] <ahmed> guys  how to remove the wine folder completly?
[07:25] <cox377> http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess3.shtml
[07:25] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Hehe. It should hopefully already have been done by the code you typed, but I made a small mistake, so I suggest we fix that first.
[07:25] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: lets do so
[07:26] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: sudo chmod -R 733 '/dev/sda1'
[07:27] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: For the second command I need to know your login-name, if you want it to work by copy-paste.
[07:27] <dr_willis> rothchild,  you may want to check the forums/wiki pages for tghat intel stuff. ive never used intel video cards.
[07:27] <dr_willis> !find 915
[07:27] <ubotu> Found: 915resolution
[07:28] <dr_willis> !info 915resolution
[07:28] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[07:28] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Otherwise the simple solution would be:   sudo chmod -R 777 '/dev/sda1/home/'
[07:28] <spawn57> nicolai_: 775, never 777
[07:29] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: listen to spawn57
[07:29] <spawn57> Kite_DH: when I tell you to jump, you say "HOW HIGH!?!?"
[07:29] <nicolai_> spawn57: :P
[07:30] <nicolai_> spawn57: Just a bad habit from when I learned the chmod command.
[07:30] <spawn57> nicolai_: same, till someone told me never to do that
[07:30] <nicolai_> :)
[07:30] <rothchild> @ dr_willis I've had a cursory look but not seen anything obvious, it was working last night and now isn't today I don't remember changing anything significant
[07:31] <DaSkreech> tackat: Hi :)
[07:31] <DaSkreech> tackat: Lots of Marble Love :0
[07:31] <asalam> hi all
[07:32] <hakaisou> X11
[07:32] <asalam> KDE 3.5.7 is out, any chance we get it by the update manager of kubuntu?
[07:32] <DaSkreech> asalam: No. Quite likely they will put upa repo by tomorrow
[07:33] <nicolai_> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[07:33] <DaSkreech> asalam: In short you can get it and it will be easy
[07:33] <DaSkreech> or they will have one up already :)
[07:33] <nicolai_> Downloaded it a few hours ago
[07:33] <nicolai_> It was up before the official announcement :D
[07:33] <asalam> by the update manager?
[07:33] <hakaisou> hooray!  thanks for that -dev tip, whoever said it
[07:34] <DaSkreech> asalam: read the announcement
[07:34] <asalam> right, excusez-moi
[07:34] <nicolai_> asalam: remeber to add the key.
[07:34] <dr_willis> hakaisou,  heh heh :)
[07:35] <ahmed> guys did any one here install warcraf 3 before on ubuntu
[07:35] <asalam> thanks
[07:35] <nicolai_> asalam: Jonathan Riddell is one of the developers working on kubuntu and KDE 4.0, so he should be trustable.
[07:35] <asalam> :)
[07:35] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: sorry, KDE hung up :(
[07:35] <asalam> im gonna try it right now
[07:35] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: im mounting for a minute, can u write the cmds again?
[07:36] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: First:    sudo chmod -R 733 '/dev/sda1'
[07:36] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: b4 mounting?
[07:36] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: oh, sry i understand
[07:37] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: second:      sudo chmod -R 773 '/dev/sda1/home/'
[07:37] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: on my installed system i have 3 users
[07:37] <asalam> !fonts
[07:37] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:37] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: u wanted to know that, right?
[07:37] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: the names
[07:38] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Do you mind it applies to all of them?
[07:38] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: what do you mean
[07:39] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: the '773' means owner and group have complete read/write/access while others can only access and read.
[07:39] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: hmm, they should have all access
[07:40] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Then this should be fine
[07:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: i typed "sudo chmod -R 733 '/dev/sda1'"
[07:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: sudo chmod -R 773 '/dev/sda1/home/' too?
[07:40] <nicolai_> jep
[07:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: it says "no permission"
[07:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: chmod: Zugriff auf /dev/sda1/home/ nicht mglich: Not a directory
[07:41] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: the first is to make sure only root can change critical files, while the second is to make sure a regular user can change files iin his/her own folders
[07:41] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: sounds strange. Try going to the folder.
[07:43] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: i would also expect /media/sda1 to be the correct location.
[07:43] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: /mnt/sda1/home
[07:43] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: can you see the home directories from there?
[07:44] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: yes
[07:44] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: of the 3 different users
[07:44] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Then I'll change the command for you
[07:44] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:44] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: sudo chmod -R 733 '/mnt/sda1/'
[07:45] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: weird, it says "no such file or directory"
[07:45] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: sudo chmod -R 773 '/mnt/sda1/home/'
[07:45] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: both cmds say the same message
[07:46] <brian_> anyone know how to install firefox without adept
[07:46] <duanarchy> Is it possible to do a cdrom-less install?
[07:46] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: try this:   cd /media
[07:46] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: and now?
[07:46] <nicolai_> Kite_DH:  dir
[07:47] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: cdrom  cdrom0
[07:47] <fdoving> duanarchy: yes, more info on ways to install at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[07:47] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: hmm..
[07:47] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: back to the /mnt folder
[07:47] <duanarchy> fdoving, thanks
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !netinstall
[07:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:48] <fdoving> Kite_DH: what's your problem? i'm a little into removable media handling in kubuntu.
[07:48] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: outside of the konsole
[07:48] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: right click on the 'sda1' icon
[07:48] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: ok
[07:48] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: /mnt/sda1
[07:48] <dominik_> hello world...
[07:48] <Osiris_> hiya everyone i need a bit of help'[
[07:49] <brian_> whats the deal osiris
[07:49] <Osiris_> i tried installing LTS on my new pc , and it just hangs there
[07:49] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: you need to be in /mnt not /mnt/sda1.
[07:49] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: ok
[07:49] <newbie_> hi, i seem to of really broken kubuntu XD
[07:49] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: im in  /mnt now
[07:49] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: I want to know exactly where it says the moint point is
[07:49] <chatters> osiris what does it show
[07:49] <Osiris_> grr , i gotta go , i'll be back later sorry for bugging ya's
[07:50] <duanarchy> An even simpler question, is it possible to upgrade from ubuntu 5.04 --> Kubuntu feisty?
[07:50] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: right click on the 'sda1' icon and read the second last line
[07:50] <fdoving> duanarchy: yes, but you need to go all the way, 5.04 -> 5.10 -> 6.06 -> 6.10 -> 7.04
[07:50] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: montiert aus perhaps :P
[07:50] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: "laufwerkverbindung lsen"
[07:50] <duanarchy> fdoving, that could take all day -- it would probably be simpler than doing a cd-less install eh?
[07:50] <Sephnroth> i installed nvidia drivers on my kubuntu (fiesty, amd64) and well, it seems to of half n half worked.  im in KDE now, i get the nvidia logo when kde starts.  my main monitor (dual CRT setup) is indeed displaying in 1280x960... but....
[07:51] <dominik_> am having problem updating my system, the adept manager and the apt-get are not working....
[07:51] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: i translate: unmount driveconnection
[07:51] <Sephnroth> the monitor isnt set to that res it seems because moving the mouse to the edge scrolls it.  my 2nd monitor is stuck in 640x480 nothing i can do helps it.  i get a sigsegv err on kde load
[07:51] <dominik_> no matter what I do, I can't seem to connect to the update site
[07:51] <Sephnroth> which i belive is restore_screen.py
[07:51] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: ahh sorry, my bad. press 'Permissions' first.
[07:51] <Sephnroth> and clicking on the monitors/displays icon in the system settings window causes another sigsegv every time :P
[07:52] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: ok
[07:52] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: properties ><
[07:52] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: I'm running the dansih version. :P
[07:52] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: properties > permissions
[07:52] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: It's cheaper to do a full install
[07:52] <ninina_> Anyone know anything about remote connections?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: Hope you have a home partition
[07:53] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, ?  I
[07:53] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, i'm in linux right now ..  (blag fd6)
[07:53] <ses1959_> dumb question on tz and installing programs
[07:53] <duanarchy> fc6*
[07:53] <fdoving> ses1959_: no questions are dumb in here. shoot.
[07:53] <cyberkill> CyberKiLL
[07:53] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: try the first tab. 'general' I guess.
[07:53] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: Right so you want to upgrade from Old *buntu to new ?
[07:53] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: okay, whats there
[07:54] <fdoving> nicolai_, kite_dh, what are you guys trying to do?
[07:54] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, either that or install the new kubuntu without a cdrom
[07:54] <Kite_DH> fdoving: getting my system to boot
[07:54] <ses1959_> I downloaded adobe reader and used tar -zv to unzip and found file but need next step to install the install file it made
[07:54] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: what does the second last line say?
[07:54] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ok. what's wrong with it?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: You can upgrade but expect that to take like three days
[07:55] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i wonder
[07:55] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, I'll try installing from my home partition
[07:55] <Sephnroth> no one got any clues for me? ;)
[07:55] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: do you have a home partition?
[07:55] <ses1959_> tried apt-get but it did not work
[07:55] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, actually, no just a root partition and a boot partition.
[07:55] <ses1959_> I think that i need to make or make install or something like that
[07:56] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, can't I just do it from root?
[07:56] <nicolai_> fdoving: right now I'm trying to figure out the mount point for the hard disk drive.
[07:56] <fdoving> !software | ses1959_
[07:56] <ubotu> ses1959_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[07:56] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7826/bildschirmphoto1xj2.png
[07:56] <fdoving> nicolai_: a mounted disk?
[07:56] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: mountpoint: /mnt/sda1
[07:57] <fdoving> nicolai_: /proc/mounts is usefull
[07:57] <Search4Lancer> is there a package for cairo itself in any repositories? I'm not finding it, and all I've got so far is libraries and bindings
[07:58] <nicolai_> fdoving: yep, it is from a live-cd. We are trying to give the installed system the correct permissions.
[07:58] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: yes you can
[07:58] <fdoving> Search4Lancer: libcairo?
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> fdoving: I have libcairo2, it doesn't seem to help me much
[07:58] <fdoving> nicolai_: what files have permission problems?
[07:58] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, hope it's not too difficult
[07:58] <fdoving> Search4Lancer: are you compiling software?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: to do an upgrade?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> shouldn't be but it is long
[07:59] <fdoving> Search4Lancer: if you are, then you need libcairo2-dev
[07:59] <Search4Lancer> fdoving: yeah, trying to install the program used to make the hurricane track maps on Wikipedia, cairo is a requirement
[07:59] <nicolai_> fdoving: this was the paste Kite_DH gave: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1086
[07:59] <ahmed> guys i have so many xorg files how do i know which one is currently being used ??
[07:59] <hakaisou> !freetype
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, .*blinks* . . to do a full install.  I'm *not* running ubuntu right now .. I'm running a lesser known fedora distro
[07:59] <fdoving> ahmed: the one name xorg.conf with no more dots or numbers.
[07:59] <iarwain_> ahmed: the one called /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;-)
[07:59] <Black_Monkey> hi, I just went to upgrade to kde 3.5.7 from the packages on the kubuntu homepage, but it's saying that kdm, konqueror, kicker, ksplash, smbclient and samba-common can't be installed because their dependencies are 3.5.6 :/
[08:00] <ahmed> there are some others that arent back ups
[08:00] <ahmed> i suspect that they r being used or so
[08:00] <klinger> je tu nekdo z CR
[08:00] <ahmed> xorg.conf.fglrx5
[08:00] <nicolai_> Black_Monkey: did you remember  to add the riddell key?
[08:00] <sephnroth> well at least im in a proper version of kvirc now.
[08:01] <Black_Monkey> nicolai_: yeah, I already had it added from installing kde 3.5.6 on edgy
[08:01] <Black_Monkey> or would it be a different one?
[08:01] <fdoving> ahmed: no, only xorg.conf is beeing used, many packages make their own backup, backups are not overwritten by others, so any program changing your xorg.conf makes its own backup.
[08:01] <Search4Lancer> fdoving: thanks, that seemed to have worked
[08:01] <sephnroth> i am missing XRandR apprantly preventing me from dynamically changing my desktop resolution in nvidia config - how do i get it?  apt-get doesnt know what it is
[08:01] <fdoving> nicolai_: what makes you think some permissions are wrong?
[08:02] <duanarchy> Okay, if I am creating a bootable partition to install kubuntu from my existing linux box, will it be possible to get that 750megs or so back? (To collapse the partition and place the memory back into root or home)
[08:02] <fdoving> sephnroth: start krandrtray - kmenu -> run command 'krandrtray' - you have it already.
[08:02] <nicolai_> fdoving: some of the previous problems from before the paste
[08:03] <nicolai_> fdoving: It was just to make sure that part worked correctly, but the konsole didn't seem to recognize the mountpoint.
[08:03] <nicolai_> Black_Monkey: I used the same key as on Edgy
[08:03] <sephnroth> mm, fdoving, running that does indeed run it and sit it in my tray.  but, even after closing and rerunning, the nvidia config still insists the extension is not there or not supported by the server
[08:03] <fdoving> nicolai_: hmm.. the paste only shows a fsck.
[08:03] <sephnroth> i really screwed this kubuntu somehow :(
[08:04] <fdoving> sephnroth: ah, nvidia, i have no idea if they support xrandr or not.
[08:04] <sephnroth> its not essential, everything else would still be broken anyway
[08:05] <fdoving> nicolai_: did fsck from the livecd work?
[08:05] <Kite_DH> fdoving: didnt try
[08:06] <sephnroth> glxgears gives me 5392.261 FPS - so the drivers are installed right.  just.. not working as they "should" - smeg what have i moofed up
[08:06] <duanarchy> i get 220 fps on a ti4600
[08:07] <duanarchy> (with open OR propriety drivers installed)
[08:07] <nicolai_> Kite_DH and fdoving: Have to go to dinner or my dad will get cross. Sorry..
[08:07] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: mhm
[08:08] <fdoving> Kite_DH: can you explain your problem to be from the start? - what was your initial problem?
[08:08] <sephnroth> well.  when kde starts i get a sigsegv (restore_screen.py i think).  when i goto "System Settings" from kmenu and then click "Monitor and Display" it crashes with sigsegv
[08:08] <Kite_DH> fdoving: can i query?
[08:08] <sephnroth> no one know whats going on?
[08:08] <fdoving> Kite_DH: sure.
[08:09] <fdoving> sephnroth: i guess displayconfig doesn't support nvidia closed source driver very well.
[08:09] <viktor> how do i associate a protcol (irc://) with an application (konversation)
[08:10] <i\o> that's discrimination
[08:10] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ok. the device is mounted at /mnt/sd<somethin> right?
[08:11] <fdoving> Kite_DH: you can start with opening an konsole, (kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[08:11] <Kite_DH> fdoving: /mnt/sda1
[08:12] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i got my konsole running on root
[08:12] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ok. good. then run 'chroot /mnt/sda1'
[08:13] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok and now
[08:13] <sercik> someone is able to install and run beryl with nvidia on kubuntu??
[08:13] <fdoving> Kite_DH: 'aptitude update;aptitude -u dist-upgrade'
[08:13] <sercik> i go to lunch goodbye
[08:13] <fdoving> Kite_DH: does it want to upgrade anything?
[08:13] <Black_Monkey> sercik: beryl installed no problem for me
[08:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving: wait for a min
[08:14] <Black_Monkey> with binary nvidia drivers
[08:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1092
[08:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving: do u think it has anything to do with this?
[08:14] <fdoving> Kite_DH: no.
[08:15] <fdoving> Kite_DH: that's the fstab, if you didn't resize or change the paritions in any way that should be fine.
[08:15] <Kite_DH> fdoving:
[08:15] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok*
[08:16] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: Yes It's easy to do an install
[08:16] <DaSkreech> you will have to use a text installer
[08:16] <DaSkreech> Why were you asking about 5.04 ?
[08:18] <turcko> hi, someone can help me with kdialog please?
[08:18] <muaddib> there anywhere where i can check to see if certain hardware is supported in kubuntu?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> !hardware
[08:18] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:19] <muaddib> neat
[08:19] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[08:19] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:19] <n0n4m3-> !die
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about die - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <n0n4m3-> xD
[08:19] <muaddib> that reminds me, might have to test the last release of fedora, haven't used it since 4
[08:19] <dromer> hmm, I just had to boot into windows again, but I couldn't and got an "Error 13". how can I fix this?
[08:21] <fdoving> dromer: have a look at forexample: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=371087
[08:21] <ninina_> anyone know how secure K Remote Desktop is?
[08:22] <Kite_DH> fdoving: bash: chroot /mnt/sda1/: No such file or directory
[08:22] <fdoving> Kite_DH: so, it isn't mounted anymore?
[08:22] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i mount it again
[08:22] <fdoving> ninina_: like vnc.
[08:22] <fdoving> Kite_DH: mount it, and run 'chroot /<mountpoint>' as root.
[08:22] <ninina_> fdoving: and that ish?
[08:23] <Kite_DH> fdoving: wait, im still mounted
[08:23] <logixoul> hi. konq 3.5.6 in feisty freezes all the time for no visible reason. each time it takes about 10 seconds to unfreeze. I think it may be related to plugins. any hints?
[08:23] <fdoving> ninina_: not secure at all. no encrypted traffic etc.
[08:23] <Kite_DH> fdoving: still says that
[08:23] <fdoving> logixoul: any processes using 100% cpu?
[08:23] <fdoving> logixoul: ctrl-esc wil ltell you.
[08:23] <ninina_> fdoving: =\ well I guess that idea doesn't work out
[08:24] <fdoving> Kite_DH: is your mountpoint correct? - check mountpount with 'cat /proc/mounts'
[08:24] <dromer> fdoving: wel, it worked fine before and I have totally no idea what could have changed
[08:24] <logixoul> fdoving: nope, max is 5%
[08:24] <fdoving> ninina_: you can run it though an ssh tunnel.
[08:24] <fdoving> logixoul: i mena when it's "freezing"..
[08:24] <Kite_DH> fdoving: /dev/sda1 / ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
[08:25] <ninina_> fdoving: ssh isn't very secure either though
[08:25] <fdoving> Kite_DH: so you have rebooted?
[08:25] <Kite_DH> fdoving: when?
[08:25] <Kite_DH> fdoving: no
[08:25] <fdoving> ninina_: it isn't?
[08:25] <logixoul> fdoving: right, it was frozen when I checked
[08:25] <ninina_> fdoving: no from what I've heard
[08:26] <fdoving> ninina_: well, it is pretty secure.
[08:26] <logixoul> fdoving: ah I think I found it - a zombie amarokapp process. thx.
[08:26] <ninina_> fdoving: well I'm gonna read up on it, so I'll be back with my oppinion in a few
[08:27] <neverblue> i have just setup my system to run duals, I am having an issue with changing the res on the second screen (SiS 300 + ATI Rage), I edited my xorg.conf to only have "higher" res, but its falling on 800x600, anything I can do to change it?
[08:27] <fdoving> Kite_DH: hmm.. ok. 'mkdir /newroot && mount /dev/sda1 /newroot && chroot /newroot' (you can copy everything inside the ''s.
[08:27] <Kite_DH> fdoving: but im already mounted
[08:29] <Kite_DH> fdoving:
[08:29] <Kite_DH> root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/sda1
[08:29] <Kite_DH> root@ubuntu:/#
[08:29] <Kite_DH> fdoving: and what now?
[08:30] <fdoving> Kite_DH: now you're running with / beeing your linux /. so 'aptitude update;aptitude dist-upgrade' - does it want to update alot of pckages?
[08:30] <HymnToLife> w00t, KDE 3.5.7 out
[08:30] <ses1959_> thank you ubotu
[08:30] <Kite_DH> fdoving: yes
[08:30] <ses1959_> i found my mistake all it needed was ./INSTALL to install the program
[08:30] <Kite_DH> fdoving: but does it update the installed system on my HD?
[08:30] <sephnroth> umm, i appear to of got my mouse trapped in a frozen "xracer" window
[08:31] <Kite_DH> fdoving: not the live-cd
[08:31] <ses1959_> but not it does not work and ran under term
[08:31] <sephnroth> how can i force it to close? alt+f4 and ctrl+c no helping
[08:31] <Osiris_> hello everyone
[08:31] <Osiris_> i came on earlier
[08:31] <Osiris_> i had problems installing kubuntu
[08:32] <Osiris_> it was freezing at the part where it tried to see how to partition my hard drive
[08:32] <Osiris_> at least thats what i assume it was doing ;p
[08:32] <ses1959_> libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64  this it the error code i have install some of the libgdk with manager program
[08:33] <dave_> hey guys
[08:33] <dave_> how do i launch a second instance of the same application?
[08:33] <iliya> Hi, I have XP and Kubuntu 6.06 instaled
[08:33] <iliya> but acedently i boot from XP cd, and he removed Grub
[08:33] <iliya> now it's NT loader and he dont see Kubuntu
[08:33] <iliya> How to install Grub again?
[08:33] <iliya> From live Kubuintu CD won't mount hda6:
[08:33] <iliya> mount /proc
[08:33] <iliya> sudo -i
[08:33] <fdoving> Kite_DH: yes, that's what teh 'chroot' command is for.
[08:33] <iliya> mount media/dev/hda6  (can't find /media/dev/hda6 in /stc/fstab)
[08:33] <Kite_DH> iliya: lol
[08:33] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok, ill let it update then, right?
[08:33] <iliya> sorry
[08:33] <K-Ryan> Wow
[08:34] <sephnroth> switchin back to windows for a bit
[08:34] <sephnroth> brb
[08:34] <K-Ryan> And I thought I was bad at separating my speech.
[08:34] <muaddib> man, i don't remember compiling anything and having it take this long, going on 8 minutes installing kopete from source
[08:34] <K-Ryan> Well, "with"
[08:34] <iliya> :)
[08:34] <K-Ryan> !grub | illiya
[08:34] <ubotu> illiya: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:34] <iliya> help please
[08:34] <K-Ryan> Follow the first link
[08:34] <iliya> ok
[08:34] <iliya> thanks
[08:35] <K-Ryan> No problem ;)
[08:35] <fdoving> Kite_DH: you can, or you can run fsck manually from the livecd, then reboot and make it update the proper way. you can also try to hit ctrl-alt-del when it "stops" during boot. it's preferred to be running the system one is upgrading.
[08:35] <Kite_DH> fdoving: the dist-upgrade runs now
[08:35] <pisq> AmyRose, which KDE you running?
[08:35] <ninina_> fdoving: I SSH will work I guess
[08:36] <Osiris_> anyone?
[08:36] <Kite_DH> fdoving: how to break it up
[08:36] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ctrl-c
[08:36] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok, how to ru the fsck now
[08:37] <dave_> anyone know how to run 2 instances of kopete?
[08:37] <fdoving> Kite_DH: 'exit' to exit from the chroot, then 'umount -l /mnt/sda1' then 'e2fsck -f /dev/sda1'
[08:38] <Ayabara> I need a dual monitor clone setup to connect my laptop to my tv. would you recommend the open source driver with xinerama or the restricted ati driver?
[08:38] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok it runs
[08:38] <fdoving> dave_: you can't as one user.
[08:38] <muaddib> dave_: i don't think you can run two instances, but it supports more than one account at a time, so why would you need to?
[08:39] <fdoving> Kite_DH: good, when it's finished, reboot and try to boot kubuntu the normal way.
[08:39] <Kite_DH> fdoving: okay
[08:39] <Kite_DH> fdoving: if that doesnt work, do we need to mount the sda1 again, and make a dist-upgrade?
[08:39] <dave_> i was just curious - i read a tutorial about gtalk that said to 3-way call you must have two instances running (in windows)
[08:39] <dave_> but i was then just curious on how to do 2 instances in linux of any program
[08:39] <fdoving> Kite_DH: yes, that's an option. but remember, you can try to hit ctrl-alt-del if it "hangs" during the boot process.
[08:40] <Kite_DH> fdoving: alright, i'll remind that
[08:40] <muaddib> dave_: interesting, maybe when this gets around to finishing i'll see if i can figure that out
[08:40] <dave_> ok cool thanks
[08:40] <chenxfei> I'm in
[08:41] <K-Ryan> Hehehe
[08:41] <chenxfei> hi
[08:41] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[08:41] <chenxfei> there
[08:41] <chenxfei> where u are
[08:42] <K-Ryan> ?
[08:42] <chenxfei> where are u?
[08:42] <chenxfei> hehe
[08:42] <K-Ryan> Okay okay
[08:42] <chenxfei> ?
[08:42] <K-Ryan> Need help with something?
[08:42] <Kite_DH> fdoving: takes a while, doesnt it?
[08:43] <fdoving> Kite_DH: probably.
[08:43] <fdoving> Kite_DH: don't sit there waiting for it, play a game or something, kmahjongg is cool .)
[08:43] <chenxfei> i want to install a new kubuntu in my pc, but i hasn't the cd of kubuntu
[08:43] <Kite_DH> fdoving: hahaha
[08:43] <chenxfei> how can i
[08:44] <K-Ryan> http://shipit.kubuntu.org
[08:44] <timmay> how do you just upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu feisty fawn?
[08:44] <K-Ryan> You can order from there
[08:44] <chenxfei> OK,thank u
[08:44] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[08:44] <sercik> someone i able to install beryl on kubuntu with nvidia?? i have followed all possible online guide but it don't work
[08:44] <K-Ryan> sercik
[08:44] <K-Ryan> Yes you can, have you installed you drivers yet?
[08:44] <chenxfei> OK
[08:44] <chenxfei> yes
[08:44] <sercik> Hi K-Ryan are you new on this channel??
[08:44] <K-Ryan> No
[08:45] <chenxfei> but i hasn't  .ISO
[08:45] <Osiris207> back again
[08:45] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok its done
[08:45] <K-Ryan> chenxfei: You order a CD, they send you it.
[08:45] <K-Ryan> In the mail
[08:45] <fdoving> Kite_DH: then try rebooting.
[08:45] <Osiris207> so does anyone have any idea why kubuntu does install for me?
[08:45] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok see
[08:45] <chenxfei> i have a tey
[08:45] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok see ya in a fewmin*
[08:45] <fdoving> Kite_DH: i'll be around.
[08:45] <K-Ryan> Osiris207: You mean it doesn't install?
[08:45] <Osiris207> doesnt**
[08:46] <Osiris207> yes it doesnt
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Are you getting any error messages?
[08:46] <Osiris207> (double negative)
[08:46] <Osiris207> no i dont
[08:46] <Osiris207> i just freezes...
[08:46] <sercik> My X crashes sorry for repeat someone is able to install beryl on kubuntu with nvidia??
[08:46] <larisca> ce pula mea bazarit?
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Strange...
[08:46] <Osiris207> not as in the windows sense of crashing , but as in it sits there for hours doing nothing
[08:46] <larisca> pe ce limba?
[08:46] <larisca> pidarilor
[08:46] <K-Ryan> sercik: Have you installed the drivers for your card?
[08:46] <Osiris207> perhaps i am being inpaitent
[08:47] <sercik> Yes K-ryan i'm not noob
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Not everyone knows how to, that they need to, or even how to do it correctly.
[08:47] <sercik> i have installed thw last drivers from nvidia and 3d works good
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Excuse me for trying to help.
[08:47] <djwisdom> Osiris207: check your cmos default values, tweaking with it sometimes makes linux irritable.
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Okay then, have you installed the beryl and emerald-themes package?
[08:47] <sercik> K-Ryan: not excuse i have told only so you can know on who are speaking!
[08:48] <hakaisou> note to self
[08:48] <sercik> yes i have tried with latest SVN from trevino repository and from beryl ubuntu
[08:48] <K-Ryan> sercik: What's is your native language?
[08:48] <sercik> italian
[08:48] <hangthedj> anybody getting errors after upgrading to kde 3.5.7
[08:48] <Osiris207> hmmm , as in over cloaking you mean ? it goes to the bit where it looks at your partitions , and it just..sits there.. see i cleared a whole mass of space for linux to go on , unformatted space
[08:48] <K-Ryan> !italian | sercik
[08:48] <ubotu> sercik: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:48] <hakaisou> NEVER EVER EVER use Ctrl+A in Adept Manager
[08:48] <K-Ryan> hakaisou: What's ctrl+a do in Adept?
[08:48] <sercik> i'm talking in english
[08:48] <sercik> or i'm trying
[08:48] <hakaisou> selects everything
[08:48] <grurf> Hello
[08:48] <hakaisou> regardless of your filter
[08:49] <K-Ryan> Well it was a little hard for me to understand you sercik, it was only a suggestion.
[08:49] <K-Ryan> hakaisou: I'll remember not to do that now =P
[08:49] <hakaisou> so when i went to remove my freetype packages, it started removing EVERYTHING
[08:49] <djdarkman> hy, what is kaccess ?
[08:49] <sercik> sorry K-ryan
[08:49] <K-Ryan> It is okay
[08:49] <sercik> so i have installed drivers and beryl packages
[08:49] <hakaisou> what is beryl anyway?
[08:49] <sercik> when i try to start with beryl manager kdm restarts
[08:49] <K-Ryan> When you try to open Beryl, X crashes?
[08:49] <K-Ryan> !beryl | hakaisou
[08:49] <ubotu> hakaisou: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:50] <grurf> After an upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, the middle mouse button of this computer doesn't function correctly anymore. Scrolling works, but clicking doesn't. Is this a known problem? Any suggestions?
[08:50] <K-Ryan> (It's pretty effects for your desktop(s) )
[08:50] <djwisdom> Osiris207: question: were you able to successfully load and play with kubuntu live cd?
[08:50] <sercik> Yes and kdm restart
[08:50] <Osiris207> djwisdom: yes i was
[08:50] <K-Ryan> Osiris207: Sorry I kind of abandoned you there =/
[08:50] <djwisdom> Osiris207: what program did you use to clear your hard drive, or is this a brand new one?
[08:51] <K-Ryan> sercik: You may want to try the #ubuntu-effects channel.
[08:51] <Osiris207> well my whole pc is new , but i used partition magic to clear the space for linux
[08:51] <Frederick> folks how can I re-start my sound system?
[08:51] <sercik> #ubuntu-effects
[08:51] <K-Ryan> Click it sercik =P
[08:51] <sercik> Thanl you K-Ryan
[08:51] <K-Ryan> I hope they can help you.
[08:51] <sercik> i hope also
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Might take time, but I'm sure they will.
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Good luck
[08:52] <djwisdom> Osiris270: and were playing around with how many  GB of brand new hard drive? 120GB?
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Osiris207: You know that the installer includes a partitioner, that you don't need to use a program to do it.
[08:53] <Osiris207> 60gb unfomratted for linux
[08:53] <Osiris207> 100 gb , being used by windows xp
[08:53] <Osiris207> so 160 in all
[08:53] <djwisdom> Osiris207: are you using IDE, EIDE, SATA or SCSI?
[08:53] <Osiris207> SATA
[08:53] <djwisdom> tsk.
[08:53] <Osiris207> ???
[08:54] <Roey> hi
[08:54] <K-Ryan> Hi there!
[08:54] <djwisdom> i hope i'm wrong, but SATA under linux is not as rock solid as IDE
[08:54] <Roey> Does Kubuntu's glibc support running 32-bit programs in 64-bit environments?
[08:54] <Roey> Debian Proper doesn't.
[08:54] <Roey> arg.
[08:55] <Osiris207> perhaps not , but ubuntu likes it , opesuse likes it.. yet kubuntu just sits there
[08:55] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure myself, but stick around I'm sure someone knows.
[08:55] <Osiris207> perhaps i am being impatiant
[08:55] <Kite_DH> fdoving: didnt work
[08:55] <K-Ryan> Osiris207: You could try installing Ubuntu, then upgrading it to Kubuntu
[08:55] <Osiris207> you can do that ?
[08:55] <djwisdom> that might work.
[08:55] <Kite_DH> fdoving: oh crap...i forgot the ctrl+alt+del thing
[08:55] <fdoving> Kite_DH: what does it stop at? - did it start fsck?
[08:55] <K-Ryan> Yep, you can.
[08:56] <Kite_DH> fdoving: the fsck is always done, then afterwards it stands like this
[08:56] <K-Ryan> I don't remember the process exactly, but I know you can.
[08:56] <Kite_DH> fdoving: as you saw in the pastebin
[08:56] <Osiris207> problem is , i have the latest version of kubuntu and it doesnt detect my wifi
[08:56] <Osiris207> where as , the older version does
[08:56] <Osiris207> bloody stupid if you ask me lol
[08:56] <K-Ryan> You need to install ndiswrapper if I'm not mistaken.
[08:56] <Osiris207> its gone back in time ;p
[08:56] <Kite_DH> fdoving: should we try the dist-upgrade?
[08:56] <K-Ryan> I'm not experienced with wifi setup, although I should be by now...
[08:57] <fdoving> Kite_DH: that's an option, did you manage to upgrade anything at all before rebooting the -first- time? - do you have older kernels in the grub list? - did you try booting one of those?
[08:57] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i have older kernels in there
[08:58] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i didnt try booting one of them
[08:58] <Osiris207> i hope upgrading from ubuntu to kubuntu is ok , cos i dont liek gnome at all
[08:58] <Kite_DH> fdoving: lets dist-upgrade now, what was the cmd again?
[08:58] <Kite_DH> fdoving: should i mount first?
[08:58] <fdoving> Kite_DH: try that first. then if that fails try one of the recovery options. (older is better chance of working)
[08:58] <Kite_DH> fdoving: recovery options??
[08:58] <fdoving> Kite_DH: i'd recommend to try atleast one of the other kernels first. then dist-upgrade if it doesn't work.
[08:59] <Kite_DH> fdoving: okay
[08:59] <hakaisou> uggh... this is totally screwed...
[08:59] <Kite_DH> fdoving: now?
[08:59] <Osiris207> why would the new version of kubuntu not pick up my wifi card , but thje older version does?
[09:00] <fdoving> Kite_DH: reboot and try to boot one of the older kernels.
[09:00] <Kite_DH> fdoving: okay
[09:00] <hakaisou> well... gives me a chance to finally reinstall kubuntu fresh and fix my damn partitions
[09:01] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i think its not gonna work
[09:01] <Kite_DH> fdoving: hm..shouldnt we dist-upgrade first, it really sounds better =/
[09:02] <fdoving> Kite_DH: dist-upgrading inside a chroot like that might make problems configuring your packages, making initrd images might break hard etc. it's not recommended.
[09:02] <Kite_DH> fdoving: lets just ty the kernel thing first
[09:02] <Kite_DH> fdoving: :)
[09:03] <[GNR] Maxou> hi everybody> someone could help me? i'm trying to install Planeshift but i get "Erreur de segmentation (core dumped)"
[09:03] <Rictoo> how do I print an entire text file to command line again>?
[09:03] <nuu> hey fdoving. not sure if you remember us talking about hal policy files not being parsed, turned out it probably is a hal bug under ubuntu
[09:04] <nuu> i spoke to the package maintainer and he asked me to file a bug about it, because hal is supposed to parse /etc/hal
[09:04] <fdoving> nuu: i remember, great. then it'll be handled. it really should include the /etc/hal, yes.
[09:05] <[GNR] Maxou> nobody for Planeshift?
[09:06] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:06] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  wb
[09:06] <K-Ryan> Not sure [GNR] Maxou, give me a minute I'll see if I can install it.
[09:06] <K-Ryan> Thank you hendaus, ever fix your problem?
[09:07] <ninina_> fdoving: what ssh server should I use?
[09:07] <hendaus> K-Ryan: yes now i am using feisty, upgrade dapper --> edgy --> feisty :)
[09:07] <fdoving> ninina_: openssh-server
[09:07] <K-Ryan> Ah, that's great!
[09:07] <ninina_> fdoving: Okies la~
[09:07] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan>thx
[09:08] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  yes nice, but i open video clip with kaffeine and it needs a plugin
[09:08] <K-Ryan> Strange, I never needed to get more than libxine-extracodecs
[09:09] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  maybe i dont have it installed
[09:09] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:09] <K-Ryan> ;)
[09:09] <K-Ryan> [GNR] Maxou: I'm not sure about the file type, I've yet to use a .bin file, I think...
[09:09] <K-Ryan> I'm going to download and try anyway.
[09:10] <K-Ryan> If anything you can always compilet the source.
[09:10] <K-Ryan> *compile
[09:11] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another pack age , This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:11] <hendaus> is only available from another source
[09:11] <K-Ryan> Have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[09:11] <K-Ryan> It's in one of those, hold on
[09:11] <K-Ryan> !libxine-extracodecs
[09:12] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan> ok but how do you do that
[09:12] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  i dont know where to enable universe and multi
[09:12] <K-Ryan> [GNR] Maxou: Don't worry about that yet =P
[09:12] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Open up Adept
[09:12] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  ok
[09:12] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan: ok
[09:13] <K-Ryan> The bot doesn't seem to have information on the package..
[09:13] <[GNR] Maxou> lol
[09:13] <K-Ryan> So we'll just enable both.
[09:13] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  ok i open adept, and then
[09:13] <timmay> can skype run in kopete?
[09:13] <hakaisou> no
[09:13] <timmay> dang
[09:13] <hakaisou> but you can install skype in linux
[09:13] <K-Ryan> Can only run skype in skype if I'm not mistaken.
[09:14] <timmay> ok cool
[09:14] <timmay> i'll go do thta then
[09:14] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Under Adept, click manage repositories.
[09:14] <[GNR] Maxou> timmay> use medibuntu
[09:14] <K-Ryan> timmay: You know to install it from it's package not an installer right?
[09:14] <[GNR] Maxou> timmay> there's a package
[09:14] <K-Ryan> !skype | timmay
[09:14] <ubotu> timmay: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:15] <K-Ryan> Woo! Go freenode!
[09:15] <hakaisou> yay
[09:16] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Under manage repositories, check the universe and multiverse boxes.
[09:17] <timmay> hey when i go into add/remove i'm getting an error after putting in my password that say "conversation with su failed" any ideas?
[09:17] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  ok
[09:18] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Now you can either search it in Adept, or go back to the terminal
[09:18] <K-Ryan> Either way you want libxine-extracodecs
[09:18] <K-Ryan> In Adept you just search it, click it, request install, apply changes
[09:18] <K-Ryan> The terminal command:
[09:19] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:19] <K-Ryan> That'll do it.
[09:19] <Kite_DH> fdoving: didnt work
[09:19] <Kite_DH> fdoving: should we try the dist-upgrade now?
[09:20] <hendaus> K-Ryan: i open manage repositories and it open a dialog -> software sources
[09:20] <K-Ryan> Yeah under the manage repositories, check the two boxes for universe and multiverse.
[09:20] <kim_> Em... Anyone used Ardour?
[09:20] <K-Ryan> !Ardour
[09:20] <kim_> ok?
[09:20] <kim_> Em..
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  they are checked
[09:21] <K-Ryan> That's what I was waiting for kim_ =P
[09:21] <K-Ryan> Sorry, I don't, stick around though I'm sure someone does.
[09:21] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Alright now try to install libxine-extracodecs again
[09:21] <fdoving> Kite_DH: how long do you wait? does hitting num lock or caps lock toggle the keyboard led?
[09:21] <hendaus> ok
[09:21] <kim_> I have some problem, when i klick ardour after installing 32 from http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=860 The icon jumps but the program wont start
[09:22] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i waited a little time, the fsck message was gone, but the thing that comes after that is still there, and it wont go away
[09:22] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i tried ctrl+alt+del and nothing happened
[09:22] <K-Ryan> [GNR] Maxou: You still here?
[09:23] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan> yeah, that's okay i was trying to install it with sudo ./*.bin
[09:23] <K-Ryan> No I've got it
[09:23] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan> and not as root
[09:23] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan> now it works
[09:23] <K-Ryan> You need to right click the installer, properties, permissions, then check "executable"
[09:23] <Lennings> Talkin to me?
[09:23] <[GNR] Maxou> yes chmod +x ?
[09:23] <Lennings> sry
[09:23] <Kite_DH> fdoving: only that is left now http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1095
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Yes =P
[09:24] <underdog5004> I had a hard-drive failure on my server. before it crashed, rtorrent would stick downloaded files in /media/storage/.../downloads. Now when I reinstalled, rtorrent is looking for the path to the old download place (/media/storage/.../downloads), even though I've specified /home/matthew/.../downloads/ for the current completed downloads folder. Any ideas?
[09:24] <luca> hi everyone
[09:24] <jbnet> I added the KDE 3.5.7 source, but the new KDevelop doesn't seem to be in there
[09:24] <K-Ryan> Hello again luca!
[09:24] <luca> hi K-Ryan :)
[09:24] <Lennings> How do i install ''using ALSA-supported audio interfaces'' Thats what a program i want to install says i need. Anyone?
[09:24] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: You're sure the download path is set to /home/matthew/.....
[09:24] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  yes i found it on adept and it is installing, thanx
[09:24] <K-Ryan> Yes?
[09:24] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ok. open a konsole, become root. 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/' then 'mount -t none -o bind /tmp /mnt/tmp' then 'mount -t none -o bind /dev /tmp/dev' then 'mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc' then 'chroot /mnt/' then 'aptitude dist-upgrade'
[09:24] <K-Ryan> You're welcome hendaus
[09:24] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, yes sir
[09:25] <underdog5004> I set it perm. in the .rtorrent.rc config file
[09:25] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[09:25] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  brb .. lunch time and back for u
[09:25] <luca> can someone help me configuring properly kmail? I want to have every mail account bound to a specific smtp server
[09:25] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Enjoy lunch =P
[09:25] <hendaus> thanx :)
[09:25] <hakaisou> god... this is really screwed......
[09:25] <hakaisou> i can't find any method of data backup that still works
[09:25] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: I'm not familiar with rtorrent but I'm sure someone around here is so stick around and ask around.
[09:25] <Kite_DH> fdoving: is 'chroot /mnt/sda1' then 'aptitude dist-upgrade' ok too?
[09:26] <Lennings> How do i install ''using ALSA-supported audio interfaces'' Thats what a program i want to install says i need. Anyone?
[09:26] <underdog5004> alrighty
[09:26] <Lennings> Where do i find alsa drivers
[09:26] <K-Ryan> !alsa
[09:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:26] <hakaisou> !alsa | Lennings
[09:26] <ubotu> Lennings: please see above
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Beat ya' =P
[09:26] <hakaisou> bah
[09:26] <Lennings> im confused.
[09:26] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, maybe it's the meta-data that's stuck on the files themselves? is there any way to change that?
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Check those links
[09:26] <Lennings> Im new in kubuntu
[09:27] <Kite_DH> Lennings: welcome
[09:27] <Lennings> alright
[09:27] <Kite_DH> Lennings: to heaven
[09:27] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: I'm not sure
[09:27] <underdog5004> oh, wait...maybe it's the last session it's trying to load...h/o
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Welcome to the other side.
[09:27] <Lennings> kite_dh: ah :P
[09:27] <hakaisou> welcome... to the REAL world
[09:27] <hakaisou> XD
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Hehehe
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Second Matrix line within the past hour.
[09:27] <hakaisou> what other cheesy welcomes can we come up with
[09:28] <Kite_DH> fdoving: dist-upgrade is now running
[09:28] <fdoving> Kite_DH: then you need to change all the mount commands to /mnt/sda1/<thing> accordingly.. but yes.
[09:28] <hakaisou> I'm boned.
[09:28] <Lennings> Brb, im gonna reboot... MB the program will work then
[09:28] <Kite_DH> hakaisou: ew
[09:28] <K-Ryan> Well I was reading a bunch of Linux-y type quotes.
[09:28] <K-Ryan> Kite_DH: I don't think that's what he meant...
[09:28] <Kite_DH> K-Ryan: haha :)
[09:28] <hakaisou> Either I lose some of my data, or I lose a different some of my data
[09:28] <hakaisou> i can't back up anything!
[09:29] <K-Ryan> One of my favorites was "Ignorance is bliss, no wonder so many people are happy with Windows!"
[09:29] <hakaisou> F*** YOU ADEPT!!!!!
[09:29] <Lennings> Im dont repooting..
[09:29] <Lennings> done*
[09:29] <hakaisou> yea, isn't Linux great like that
[09:29] <underdog5004> k-ryan, thanks for being a sounding board. I just had to delete the old session that it was loading from and reload all the torrents. nice and easy, considering that I was about to rm -rf downloads/*.* lol, 136Gb would have taken awhile
[09:29] <K-Ryan> Or "Linux is like air conditioners, they stop working when you open Windows"
[09:29] <hakaisou> ctrl-alt-backspace == 5 second reboot
[09:29] <K-Ryan> Glad I could kind of help underdog5004 ;)
[09:30] <zoohouse> Hello everyone
[09:30] <underdog5004> have a good one, K-Ryan
[09:30] <K-Ryan> You too
[09:30] <K-Ryan> Hi there zoohouse!
[09:30] <hakaisou> sigh...
[09:30] <Lennings> Gah! Ardour wont start when i click the icon... Gah
[09:30] <hakaisou> would there be a log for the packages that got removed that I could access?
[09:31] <K-Ryan> I don't think there is a log for package adding/removal.
[09:31] <bobleny> Any one know of a linux based data recovery software for bad floppy disks?
[09:31] <hakaisou> ;
[09:31] <K-Ryan> I remember someone asking about a log of packages being added.
[09:31] <hakaisou> ;_;
[09:31] <drkns> hello
[09:31] <K-Ryan> Hi drkns!
[09:31] <hakaisou> bobleny: yea it's called a flashdrive  XD
[09:31] <drkns> i have this .386.rpm file that i want to compile
[09:31] <drkns> how can i do this?
[09:31] <hakaisou> seriously thouhg, i don't know
[09:32] <zoohouse> I am having trouble getting the outside world to see my vncserver... I have my computer connected directly to my DSL modem and using firestarter, I have the firewall disabled. Yet I can't connect to my vncserver using my public ip yet my local ip works fine. when I use canyouseeme.org it say "connection timed out" What may be wrong?
[09:32] <K-Ryan> I'm not very familiar with compiling but let's see what the bot has to say.
[09:32] <K-Ryan> !compile
[09:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:32] <K-Ryan> I don't think that's what you're looking for, but you can try,
[09:32] <bobleny> hakaisou: I know, thats why I dont use floppys, normally...
[09:32] <K-Ryan> Otherwise stick around in the channel, someone is bound to be able to help.
[09:32] <drkns> k-ryan i will try
[09:32] <bobleny> Any one know of a linux based data recovery software for bad floppy disks?
[09:32] <drkns> thx
[09:33] <K-Ryan> You're welcome.
[09:33] <|ericsson|> Anyone know how to get java?
[09:33] <K-Ryan> !java
[09:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:33] <|ericsson|> thnx K-Ryan
[09:33] <K-Ryan> You're welcome ;)
[09:33] <K-Ryan> zoohouse: I know it may sound funny, but you might want to try port forwarding if you are behind a router.
[09:34] <drkns> thats not it but i think i found smtg else on the net thx anyways
[09:34] <navets>  does anyone here know if you have to have a mac to run a virtual mac os on linux or can you do it with a pc
[09:34] <K-Ryan> My router has a built in firewall that "supposedly you can shut down", I always end up having to forward the ports though.
[09:34] <zoohouse> K-Ryan: but I am connected directly to the modem, i disconnected the router all together.
[09:34] <bkudria> is there any sort ETA for (semi) official kdevelop 3.4.1 packages?
[09:34] <K-Ryan> Then I'm not sure
[09:34] <drkns> zoohouse do you have a dnsserver set up?
[09:35] <drkns> or your dns servers are advertising the ips that you want to use?
[09:35] <K-Ryan> navets: You can probably run a virtual mac on Linux.
[09:35] <hakaisou> quick!  software that can blast an NTFS partition and reformat it into a linux compatable format!
[09:35] <K-Ryan> Gparted
[09:35] <hakaisou> thank you!
[09:35] <bkudria> ntfs is linux compatible - sorta
[09:36] <K-Ryan> Read only
[09:36] <navets> K-Ryan: k thanks
[09:36] <nuu> no, read-write
[09:36] <K-Ryan> Writing is another story..
[09:36] <K-Ryan> Write is possible, not recommended.
[09:36] <K-Ryan> You're welcome navets.
[09:36] <hakaisou> i know that
[09:36] <hakaisou> i just need to blast the partition
[09:36] <nuu> it wasn't recommended once...nowadays ntfs-3g is pretty stable
[09:37] <hakaisou> just want to get rid of the partition
[09:38] <nuu> hakaisou: then K-Ryan already answered :)
[09:38] <zoohouse> drkns: no...
[09:38] <hakaisou> i know
[09:38] <hakaisou> installing it already
[09:38] <hakaisou> :D
[09:38] <hakaisou> i love apt-get
[09:38] <hakaisou> :hugs his CLI:
[09:38] <K-Ryan> I've gotten 8 thank yous this session, =)
[09:39] <K-Ryan> That's more than 1 every 10 minutes.
[09:39] <K-Ryan> Or about that...
[09:39] <nuu> K-Ryan ;)
[09:39] <K-Ryan> Yeah a little over 10 minutes =)
[09:39] <K-Ryan> I'm on a roll today.
[09:40] <zoohouse> drkns: I would need a dnsserver?
[09:40] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, do you know how to make sure that ssh is started on boot? I'm running a headless server and it's a huge hassle to [dis|re] connect my monitor.
[09:40] <bkudria> is there any sort ETA for (semi) official kdevelop 3.4.1 packages?
[09:40] <hakaisou> wow...
[09:40] <hakaisou> this is gonna take a bit
[09:40] <nuu> underdog5004: use update-rc.d or rcconf
[09:40] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: To be honest, I don't know what ssh is =P
[09:40] <hakaisou> secure shell, mirite?
[09:40] <underdog5004> !ssh > K-Ryan
[09:41] <underdog5004> nuu, update-rc.d ssh   ?
[09:41] <nuu> underdog5004: sudo apt-get install rcconf && sudo rcconf
[09:41] <K-Ryan> Oh it's a remote connection kind of thing.
[09:41] <underdog5004> nuu, thanks
[09:41] <chris_scummette> hi everybody
[09:41] <nuu> you'll figure it out easily from there
[09:42] <K-Ryan> Hi there chris_scummette!
[09:42] <timmay> !skype
[09:42] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:43] <K-Ryan> Wow
[09:43] <K-Ryan> Has anyone ever just typed "find" in their terminal?
[09:43] <nuu> find is one of the most useful tools ever ;)
[09:43] <K-Ryan> brb
[09:44] <hakaisou> XD at find
[09:44] <hakaisou> find EVERYTHING!!!!!!
[09:44] <hakaisou> if ever i wanted to see everything on my harddrive at light speed, that was the way to do it
[09:44] <LjL> K-Ryan: not alone. sometimes find | wc -l
[09:45] <hakaisou> you can have that be logged can't you?
[09:45] <hakaisou> like into a text file?
[09:45] <nuu> use >
[09:45] <hakaisou> thought so
[09:45] <hakaisou> that makes it good to use as a file inventory then
[09:46] <zoohouse> f
[09:46] <nuu> hakaisou: file inventory how ?
[09:47] <nuu> what's the purpose of listing all files on your disk :)
[09:47] <hakaisou> none really
[09:47] <drkns> ok thse things wont work
[09:47] <nuu> i see ;)
[09:47] <hakaisou> but then again...
[09:47] <drkns> i am trying to install this package
[09:47] <hakaisou> whats the purpose of setting up dual boots?
[09:47] <nuu> but then again, this is linux and now you're FREE!
[09:47] <nuu> free to hack around :P
[09:48] <drkns> barry-0.1-1bcharge.i386.rpm and under the directory i use rpm -i file name
[09:48] <luca> about hacking...
[09:48] <drkns> but this wont work
[09:48] <luca> I have a problem with bibus, a python application :D
[09:48] <hakaisou> 99% of dual boot users will rarely or never use the secondary OS's in a dual boot system
[09:49] <nuu> hakaisou: you generally use find to, say, delete files older than x days, or perform repeated actions on every file matching a given pattern in its filename, and such
[09:49] <underdog5004> nuu, hmm, there was no option for ssh
[09:49] <nuu> underdog5004: did you install openssh-server ?
[09:49] <luca> when I tell it to open a file of the bibliography (added the url in the tags of the biblio item) it calls firefox...and instead of opening file:///etc. it does file:///home/luca/"file:///etc."
[09:49] <underdog5004> nuu, yep
[09:49] <hakaisou> then i just thought of a good use for it then
[09:49] <hakaisou> i read lots of comics right?
[09:49] <luca> obviously nothing opens out of the box, dunno how to debug it :)
[09:50] <|lostbyte|> where can i find the tunctrl command in ?
[09:50] <hakaisou> but unzipping into individual chapters is annoying
[09:50] <hakaisou> MASS RENAMES FTW!!!!
[09:50] <nuu> underdog5004: ls -l /etc/init.d | grep ssh
[09:50] <nuu> hakaisou :)
[09:51] <underdog5004> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2016 2006-10-05 02:43 ssh
[09:51] <hakaisou> lets see if amarok still works
[09:51] <hakaisou> yay!  it does
[09:51] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  whats up
[09:51] <hakaisou> lets see if i still got mp3 support
[09:51] <underdog5004> nuu, when I sudo apt-get install openssh-server, it says that it's already the newest version
[09:52] <nuu> underdog5004: and when you start sudo rcconf, you don't see a "ssh" in the list ?
[09:52] <nuu> you tried scrolling down using your arrow keys toO ?
[09:53] <underdog5004> nuu, nope, and yes
[09:53] <underdog5004> I'm on ubuntu 6.10, server.
[09:54] <K-Ryan> I'm back
[09:54] <hakaisou> i swear if i don't get some power metal right the hell now...
[09:54] <nuu> underdog5004: try sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[09:55] <muaddib> they have the relevant KDE repositories for fiesty up yet?
[09:55] <K-Ryan> Had someone here to spray my backyard for fleas & ticks so I had to point it out and yeah...
[09:55] <underdog5004> it says:  System startup links for /etc/init.d/ssh already exist.
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> muaddib: for 3.5.7?
[09:55] <hakaisou> thank you Powerman 5000
[09:55] <underdog5004> so, it'll come up automatically already?
[09:55] <hakaisou> you keep me from thrashing stuff
[09:55] <nuu> underdog5004: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/ | grep ssh
[09:55] <underdog5004> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  13 2007-05-22 02:39 S20ssh -> ../init.d/ssh
[09:55] <muaddib> Daisuke_Ido yeah
[09:56] <nuu> good, it's already set to automatically start :)
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> muaddib: they've been up for at least hours
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm already running it :)
[09:56] <muaddib> Daisuke_Ido neat, was just about to install Fiesty again, got my computer working fine and I've got nothing to fix at the moment
[09:57] <nuu> underdog5004: strange that rcconf fails to detect it though. Not that it matters, but would you try sudo update-rcconf-guide && sudo rcconf ?
[09:57] <nuu> and see if it's there
[09:57] <underdog5004> sure, h/o
[09:57] <K-Ryan> !planeshift
[09:58] <underdog5004> nuu, still nothing regarding ssh
[09:58] <underdog5004> not a biggie, though
[09:58] <underdog5004> thanks for the help
[09:58] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to launch Planeshift?
[09:58] <LjL> !find tunctrl | |lostbyte|
[09:58] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, what is it?
[09:58] <nuu> what do you see there underdog5004 ?
[09:59] <K-Ryan> http://www.planeshift.it
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> LjL, done that first.. nothing.
[09:59] <nuu> underdog5004: it's still a misbehavior on rcconf's side
[09:59] <K-Ryan> MMORPG
[09:59] <Osiris207> heya everyone\
[09:59] <Osiris207> i got kubuntu to install
[09:59] <K-Ryan> Ah, that's good.
[09:59] <Osiris207> but i had to use the new version of kubuntu that doesnt seem to like my wifi card
[09:59] <K-Ryan> That can be fixed though.
[09:59] <Osiris207> its wierd , in kinfo you can see thew wifi card is there
[09:59] <underdog5004> nuu, umm, just shut it down, but from what I can recall: apache, 2-3 mysql things, hdparm, and 3-4 bootclean? entries
[09:59] <Osiris207> it says , realtek wireless lan controller
[09:59] <LjL> |lostbyte|: then it's not available in any package.
[10:00] <K-Ryan> Be right back again.
[10:00] <Osiris207> but doesnt show up in the network devices
[10:00] <Osiris207> ok
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> :(
[10:02] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  wb
[10:02] <Osiris207> wb
[10:02] <hakaisou> how do i unmount a drive?
[10:03] <nuu> umount mountpoint or partition
[10:03] <timmay> get off it'
[10:03] <Osiris207> lol
[10:03] <timmay> unmount and whatever drive it is
[10:03] <Osiris207> so anyone here good with wifi ?
[10:04] <nuu> !ask | Osiris207
[10:04] <timmay> Osiris: what are you looking to find out>?
[10:04] <hakaisou> ugh!
[10:04] <hakaisou> mtab says it's not mounted...
[10:04] <hakaisou> but gparted says won't do anything with it
[10:04] <nuu> hakaisou: sudo umount then
[10:04] <nuu> see if that helps
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about planeshift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <ubotu> |lostbyte|: Package/file tunctrl does not exist in feisty
[10:04] <Osiris207> why it is that the new kubuntu hates my wifi card , where as the old one didnt lol
[10:04] <Osiris207> basically it dont show up in network devices
[10:04] <ubotu> Osiris207: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:05] <hakaisou> oh...
[10:05] <|lostbyte|> lol
[10:05] <hakaisou> :D
[10:05] <timmay> lol
[10:05] <hakaisou> ID 10 T error
[10:05] <Osiris207> now it shows up in kingo
[10:05] <Osiris207> kinfo**
[10:05] <timmay> there ya go...fixed it
[10:05] <timmay> :)
[10:05] <LjL> |lostbyte|: well, he thought it through
[10:05] <Osiris207> but , you cant use it
[10:05] <Osiris207> so i dunno what to do lol
[10:05] <Osiris207> its there , but it aint ;p
[10:05] <nuu> hakaisou: any luck ?
[10:06] <hakaisou> got it
[10:06] <|lostbyte|> yea :P
[10:06] <Osiris207> so there you go , eat ya heart out ;p
[10:08] <hakaisou> all right hten
[10:09] <hakaisou> reforming sda2 as sda1
[10:09] <Osiris207> well any idea's anyone?
[10:10] <hakaisou> yes
[10:10] <hakaisou> but only if you're REALLY serious!
[10:10] <Osiris207> you talking to me?
[10:10] <hakaisou> yea
[10:10] <hakaisou> i don't know what the topic is though...
[10:10] <Osiris207> wifi
[10:10] <hakaisou> i'm just making stuff up as i go
[10:11] <hakaisou> and quoting ask a ninja
[10:11] <Osiris207> lol
[10:11] <Osiris207> i installed kubuntu and it dont show my wifi card in network devices
[10:11] <Osiris207> but it is shown in kinfo... so its knows its there ;p
[10:12] <hakaisou> have you checked to see if its compatable with kubuntu?
[10:12] <Osiris207> well it was compatible with the old kubuntu
[10:12] <Osiris207> so be pritty backwards if it aint compatable with the new one ;p
[10:12] <Osiris207> thats normally a windows-vista joke.. but i wont go there
[10:13] <hakaisou> stranger things have happened
[10:13] <Osiris207> true
[10:13] <hakaisou> the Cleveland Indians are top of the league right now
[10:13] <hakaisou> i mean come on
[10:13] <Osiris207> but it does my head in
[10:13] <Osiris207> lol
[10:14] <Osiris207> kubuntu is great , i am a big linux fan , but i always get trouble with wifi , does my head in
[10:14] <jtmoney> how come it's taking so long for ubuntu to release an updated package for gaim/pidgin? it went from beta to final, i figured that would be kind of important to roll-out
[10:14] <hakaisou> i love wired internet
[10:14] <timmay> what utility would be used for burning CD's and DVD's?
[10:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving: its done
[10:14] <Osiris207> i dont have that luxury at the moment
[10:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving:
[10:14] <Kite_DH>  acpid
[10:14] <Kite_DH>  acpi-support
[10:14] <Kite_DH>  powermanagement-interface
[10:15] <Kite_DH> fdoving: it says there were errors at dist-upgrade
[10:15] <hakaisou> timmay: k3b
[10:15] <muaddib> timmay: k3b
[10:15] <hakaisou> beat ya
[10:15] <hakaisou> :D
[10:15] <Kite_DH> timmay: k3b
[10:15] <Kite_DH> luv ya guys
[10:15] <Osiris207> so , does anyone know how to help my problem?
[10:15] <Kite_DH> lol
[10:16] <muaddib> damn!
[10:16] <hakaisou> sorry, i don't mess with wifi too much
[10:16] <hakaisou> over my head
[10:16] <timmay> cool, hehe it's only my second day on kubuntu...so it's a hard transition from windows to this
[10:16] <timmay> but i'm liking it more
[10:16] <Kite_DH> fdoving: should i reeboot now?
[10:16] <sayers> I just cant get this printer to work on windows :(
[10:17] <muaddib> timmay: k3b is one of those programs that is so incredibly better than anything on windows, or other linux programs as well. one of my favorite applications
[10:18] <timmay> will it "backup" my copyrights items? ;)
[10:18] <sayers> k3b is good ;)
[10:18] <sayers> even better than stuff you can waste money on :D
[10:18] <Osiris207> is there a channel for wifi support on irc?
[10:19] <Osiris207> i mean specifcally kubuntu wifi*
[10:21] <Ayabara> why oh why must it be so hard to get the vga on my laptop to output something that my tv can understand?
[10:22] <Osiris207> !wifi
[10:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:23] <binks> hey can i check a hdd for errors under linux ie my doze drive keeps restarting even after a fresh install and since i mainly use *nix is there a disk testing tool
[10:23] <timmay> question: my buddy is using ubuntu and just installed the kubuntu upgrade, but how does he change the GUI to show like kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[10:23] <Fahuadai> on the klogin, select session
[10:23] <Fahuadai> login^
[10:24] <timmay> ty
[10:24] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  are u there
[10:25] <mzanfardino> okay, can those of us who have not upgraded to Fiesty get to a repository for KDE 3.5.7 for Edgy?
[10:26] <RawSewage> Im in Feisty and have 3.5.6
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> RawSewage: well yeah, that's what's included with feisty
[10:27] <RawSewage> whats in 3.5.7
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> mzanfardino: probably not until some enterprising soul creates an edgy repo
[10:27] <mzanfardino> I'm on Edgy with 3.5.6 as well. I was hoping 3.5.7 would be available for Edgy... all the links I'm finding are for fiesty
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> not much
[10:28] <mzanfardino> Daisuke_Ido: ok, good enough
[10:28] <RawSewage> whats so great about .7
[10:28] <zoohouse> I am having trouble getting the outside world to see my vncserver... I have my computer connected directly to my DSL modem and using firestarter, I have the firewall disabled. Yet I can't connect to my vncserver using my public ip yet my local ip works fine. when I use canyouseeme.org it say "connection timed out" What may be wrong?
[10:29] <Daisuke_Ido> foward the ports.
[10:30] <zoohouse> Daisuke_Ido: it is connected directly to the modem with ippasstrough enabled
[10:30] <Daisuke_Ido> then it obviously isn't working
[10:30] <Timsen> does the vnc listen on the outside address?
[10:31] <Timsen> can you see that with netstat -tanp ?
[10:31] <zoohouse> Timsen: what do you mean?
[10:31] <zoohouse> Timsen: cp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5901            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     7465/Xtightvnc
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> o_O
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> it's listening on 0.0.0.0
[10:32] <Timsen> okay should listen
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ?
[10:32] <Timsen> that means it does listening on all interfaces
[10:32] <zoohouse> Is that wrong?
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> alright then.
[10:33] <zoohouse> right
[10:33] <Daisuke_Ido> perhaps ip passthrough isn't working?
[10:33] <zoohouse> I have firestarter allowing port 5901 from everyone
[10:33] <zoohouse> Daisuke_Ido: that is running trough my head...
[10:34] <Timsen> i can be a problem because you are trying to reach your external ip from withing your external ip
[10:34] <Timsen> it
[10:34] <zoohouse> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i am going to have to do this after work
[10:34] <zoohouse> Timsen: I don't think so because I also use canyouseeme.org to test the port
[10:35] <Timsen> thats a good point
[10:36] <zoohouse> Timsen: thanks for the help but I am going to have to tackle this later after work.
[10:36] <zoohouse> see you guys later
[10:36] <Timsen> bye
[10:40] <lurkinsimon> evening
[10:41] <lurkinsimon> anyone home ?
[10:41] <Ace2016> hi
[10:41] <Ace2016> most people are away getting kde 3.5.7
[10:43] <lurkinsimon> ah
[10:43] <lurkinsimon> I am a bit in trouble here, I could use a tad bit of help
[10:44] <hakaisou> ok then
[10:44] <lurkinsimon> anyone knowledgeable about wifi and wep issues ?
[10:44] <hakaisou> installing
[10:45] <hakaisou> how do i mount partitions off a live CD?
[10:45] <stdin> hakaisou: like 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt '
[10:46] <bbeck_> does anyone know the package name for the kickoff menu?
[10:47] <Arwen> kicker? lol
[10:47] <hakaisou> yea...
[10:47] <hakaisou> stdin:  where does that mount to?
[10:47] <stdin> hakaisou: to /mnt
[10:47] <OlliK> Hi, all!
[10:47] <stdin> !kickoff | bbeck_
[10:47] <ubotu> bbeck_: Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[10:47] <OlliK> Does anyone know what is the command-line command for taking a screenshot in KDE?
[10:47] <OlliK> Something similar than the gnome-screenshot in gnome
[10:48] <stdin> bbeck_: don't know if it's in the repos tho
[10:48] <stdin> OlliK: ksnapshot?
[10:48] <lurkinsimon> I have a router which runs only wep for now, as putting it on wpa is quite troublesome. How do I get knetworkmanager to let me use the network he detected, in wep ?
[10:48] <lurkinsimon> by default it doesn't let me
[10:48] <OlliK> stdin: thanks
[10:50] <lurkinsimon> anybody ? :D
[10:50] <stdin> knetworkmanager always asked me for the wep key
[10:51] <hakaisou> stdin: thanks
[10:51] <Kite_DH> fdoving: okay im on feisty now, everything, except of the sound
[10:52] <lurkinsimon> stdin, when I run knetworkmanager it sees my router (a livebox) but by default it does not allow me to select a wep, just wpa. If on the other hand I tell it "conenct me to antoher network" then I get a wep option.
[10:52] <lurkinsimon> which is ridiculous since that other network is just fictious
[10:53] <lurkinsimon> on the "real" network it just sees wpa personal or enterprise
[10:53] <stdin> do you only use one wifi network? if so, then just put the settings in System Settings -> Network Settings
[10:53] <hakaisou> question, is there a second place where I can mount a drive in the live cd?
[10:53] <Jack31> oh yay
[10:53] <Jack31> kde 3.7
[10:53] <hakaisou> oh... ok then
[10:53] <hakaisou> i got it
[10:54] <stdin> hakaisou: yeah, just make a directory and mount it there, eg: sudo mkdir /mount1
[10:54] <Cugel> No problems with it, hakai?
[10:54] <stdin> Jack31: 3.7? you mean 3.5.7?
[10:54] <phpcode> how to get a valid ident?
[10:54] <Jack31> oops yeh
[10:54] <Jack31> :D
[10:54] <hakaisou> i think i figured out a solution
[10:54] <Jack31> is it worth an upgrade?
[10:54] <hakaisou> inside the first mounted drive there was folder also named mnt
[10:55] <hakaisou> so i used that
[10:55] <stdin> phpcode: install a ident server, I use pidentd
[10:55] <Cugel> Well they fixed a few bugs and introduced some new ones, so I guess it's okay.
[10:55] <stdin> hakaisou: just make sure you un-mount them in order then
[10:56] <RawSewage> i named my folder Drive B
[10:56] <RawSewage> i named my folder DriveB
[10:56] <phpcode> stdin: Ok. thx :)
[10:57] <binks> anyone no why or how i find out why kubuntu hangs when i try restart
[10:57] <binks> i just get a black screen
[10:57] <hakaisou> awesome
[10:57] <hakaisou> thanks for the assist stdin
[10:58] <hakaisou> now i can keep all my stuff
[10:58] <Osiris207> hey everyone
[11:00] <Osiris207> can anyone tell me why my wifi is unclaimed** , have a look in the pastebin and you'll see what i mean
[11:00] <Osiris207> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22042/
[11:02] <stdin> I think that means that the driver isn't loaded for it
[11:02] <Osiris207> so what do i do
[11:02] <Osiris207> sorry to sound blunt
[11:03] <stdin> not sure, find what the driver is and sudo modprobe it
[11:03] <stdin> !wifi
[11:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:03] <Osiris207> i have a linux  driver for the chipset i got , i just dont know how to use it
[11:03] <Osiris207> as in , i dont understand the readme
[11:04] <stdin> pastebin it
[11:04] <Osiris207> ok
[11:04] <ahmed> guys does any one know hot to disable xgl ?
[11:05] <Osiris207> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22043/
[11:05] <Osiris207> there you go stdin
[11:05] <Cugel> ahmed: just remove it?
[11:05] <ahmed> well i dont want to remove it
[11:05] <ahmed> i run a game under wine
[11:05] <ahmed> it runs very slowly
[11:05] <ahmed> warcraft 3..
[11:05] <Cugel> Ah, like that. Sorry I don't run it myself.
[11:06] <Cugel> Google for 'disable xgl', I found a few hints.
[11:07] <stdin> Osiris207: seems you just need to run "./makedrv" from the same directory as the README filr
[11:07] <stdin> *file
[11:07] <Osiris207> how do you run it?
[11:07] <Osiris207> do i just type ./makedrv
[11:07] <stdin> yeah
[11:07] <Osiris207> in the consol
[11:07] <Osiris207> i did that
[11:07] <Osiris207> nothing happens
[11:07] <stdin> nothing?
[11:08] <Osiris207> apartently you have to change its file type or something
[11:08] <Osiris207> so it says in the read me.. chmod 788 , but that dont do anything either
[11:08] <Osiris207> i dunno what ia m doing ;p
[11:08] <stdin> got a link to the file you downloaded, so I can poke around?
[11:09] <Osiris207> yeah sure
[11:09] <Osiris207> i'll get one for you
[11:09] <Osiris207> sorry to be a pain
[11:11] <raylu> Osiris207, chmod +x makedr
[11:11] <raylu> *makedrv
[11:11] <hakaisou> you know?
[11:11] <Osiris207> chmod +x makedrv , that whole command in the console?
[11:12] <hakaisou> it's amazing how long it takes for 30 gigs to transfer from one drive to another
[11:12] <Osiris207> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&ProdID=35&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[11:12] <nardax> Hi there,
[11:12] <Osiris207> there you go stdin
[11:12] <hakaisou> hennl nardax
[11:12] <hakaisou> hello even
[11:12] <raylu> Osiris207, yes
[11:12] <jtmoney> how come it's taking so long for ubuntu to release an updated package for gaim/pidgin? it went from beta to final, i figured that would be kind of important to roll-out
[11:12] <Osiris207> what does that do>
[11:12] <intelikey> ok i have compiled the information.   i don't know where to drop the info,  i'm not sure if it's kernel side (probably is)   or in the app (mc = midnight commander).     i'm not going to regester with launchpad but if anyone is interested in the bug report i can dcc a copy of the text file   or pastebin it  at your discression.
[11:13] <K-Ryan> Boo
[11:13] <nardax> Im a newbie
[11:13] <raylu> Osiris207, it allows it to be executed
[11:13] <K-Ryan> Welcome to the other sid nardax.
[11:13] <K-Ryan> *side
[11:13] <nardax> hah
[11:13] <raylu> Osiris207, when you ls it, it will be green. i believe the two 8s in 788 are for that too
[11:13] <Osiris207> ls it ?
[11:13] <K-Ryan> nardax: Having trouble with something?
[11:13] <raylu> when you type ls, the color of the file will be green
[11:14] <nardax> yup.. it's the video driver
[11:14] <raylu> that may help
[11:14] <Osiris207> why do i need to type ls?
[11:14] <K-Ryan> What make and model video card do you have?
[11:14] <nardax> my laptop is IBM T60 which has ATI mobile 1400
[11:14] <Osiris207> sorry i must sound dumb lol
[11:14] <raylu> Osiris207, i'm just mentioning it
[11:14] <intelikey> anybody interested ?  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36657
[11:14] <raylu> you don't need to of course
[11:14] <Osiris207> oo i see  thankyou
[11:14] <raylu> it's the quickest, easiest way to check :P
[11:15] <nardax> I already downloaded the driver and run it..
[11:15] <K-Ryan> nardax: I haven't done an Ati one in a while but I'll try to walk you through it.
[11:15] <K-Ryan> nardax: There is more than just downloading from Ati
[11:15] <K-Ryan> Hold on two seconds
[11:15] <K-Ryan> !ati
[11:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:15] <Osiris207> i need all the help i can get lol
[11:15] <nardax> run with command ./ blar blar.run
[11:16] <NotFaint> New-ish Kubuntu user here. Who's got an ear for my problems?
[11:16] <raylu> !ask
[11:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:16] <K-Ryan> NotFaint, ask away
[11:16] <nardax> wow you guy are very nice to me, thank you all
[11:16] <K-Ryan> If someone has an answer, they will answer.
[11:16] <NotFaint> Oh no, I don't know who I should listen to! :P
[11:16] <K-Ryan> Sorry nardax =P
[11:16] <Osiris207> stdin , did you have a look?
[11:16] <NotFaint> My problem is with using KlamAV to scan a drive I've got in a mobile bay.
[11:16] <K-Ryan> I'm reading through the help file to figure out what you should do.
[11:17] <raylu> Osiris207, you set it to x, right? try running it now
[11:17] <K-Ryan> nardax: Open up your terminal
[11:17] <stdin> Osiris207: I'm looking at it
[11:17] <Osiris207> i am not on kubuntu , so i'll have  reboot
[11:17] <nardax> It detected the video card and I chose the detected one
[11:17] <raylu> Osiris207, oh. what are you trying to do anyway?
[11:17] <Osiris207> i'll let stdin have a look at the driver and comment , then i'll reboot and see what i can do
[11:17] <NotFaint> I created a mountpoint, mounted the drive -- the partition is NTFS, by the way, which could be the whole problem -- and tried to scan it in KlamAV, selecting it from /media/customerdrive (the mountpoint I made) but I don't have permission. Do I need to run Klam with sudo or something like that?
[11:17] <Osiris207> i am trying to install a driver for my wifi
[11:17] <Osiris207> card*
[11:17] <nardax> However, after I restart the ubuntu it is gone.
[11:18] <raylu> !chown | NotFaint
[11:18] <ubotu> NotFaint: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:18] <raylu> er...wtf...
[11:18] <K-Ryan> nardax: You're using Kubuntu right?
[11:18] <raylu> NotFaint, type "man chown"
[11:18] <raylu> Osiris207, i assume you're working on ndiswrapper?
[11:18] <Osiris207> no
[11:18] <nardax> yup
[11:18] <nardax> kubuntu
[11:18] <NotFaint> raylu: I know loosely what it does, enough that the man would just feel tedious to read :P
[11:18] <NotFaint> but
[11:18] <K-Ryan> 7.04 Feisty?
[11:18] <Osiris207> i have a driver specifically for linux
[11:18] <nardax> yup
[11:18] <nardax> correct
[11:19] <NotFaint> if I chown it to myself, am I chowning the mount point or the device or what?
[11:19] <K-Ryan> But the video card isn't working?
[11:19] <underdog5004> nuu, K-Ryan , I restarted my server,  but I couldn't ssh in...nmap wasn't even showing it...so I futzed around, read a magazine, and when I finally plugged the monitor in, it was showing the installation screen. I'd left the install cd in the drive!
[11:19] <K-Ryan> Well, drivers
[11:19] <raylu> NotFaint, the mount. the device is owned by root (i believe)
[11:19] <NotFaint> Gotcha. Will try. Thanks.
[11:19] <raylu> NotFaint, and it's in /dev
[11:19] <nardax> no. Kubuntu works as Vesa mode
[11:19] <raylu> nardax, *X?
[11:19] <K-Ryan> Vesa mode?
[11:19] <nardax> yup
[11:19] <raylu> i think he means X is using the vesa driver
[11:19] <K-Ryan> Mayve
[11:19] <nardax> yup I think so
[11:19] <K-Ryan> *Maybe
[11:20] <K-Ryan> Alright, open your console and type "glxgears"
[11:20] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: So all is well?
[11:20] <underdog5004> yes sir
[11:20] <nardax> ok
[11:20] <NotFaint> Also, if anybody knows, once I get to scanning this with Klam, since it's NTFS and I can only read it, can Klam still kill viruses it finds?
[11:20] <K-Ryan> Glad to hear
[11:20] <underdog5004> just thought I'd share my exp with you
[11:20] <raylu> NotFaint, no
[11:20] <Osiris207> stdin , i will just reboot and try the suggestion , i'll be back on a in a min if you have any comments
[11:20] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: Thanks ;)
[11:21] <NotFaint> so do I need a third-party NTFS driver or something
[11:21] <raylu> NotFaint, unelss you want to use the ntfs writing driver
[11:21] <stdin> Osiris207: ok
[11:21] <raylu> yep.
[11:21] <K-Ryan> nardax: Is it running smoothly or choppy?
[11:21] <NotFaint> raylu: I keep reading that there are... problems.
[11:21] <raylu> K-Ryan, he's ATI, right? fglrxinfo?
[11:21] <nardax> K, smoothly
[11:21] <NotFaint> This is a customer's machine, and I don't want to screw it up TOO bad, but I don't wanna risk infecting another Windows machine by putting it in there.
[11:21] <K-Ryan> raylu: Yeah he's an Ati user(Yes only the A is capital)
[11:21] <pirunga> how can I upgrade kubuntu from dapper to feisty ??
[11:21] <K-Ryan> But with official drivers or something.
[11:21] <raylu> NotFaint, yeah. it's possible that it screws up and you lose a lot of data, but it's stable enough for desktop use (so most people say)
[11:21] <NotFaint> pirunga: shouldn't Adept prompt you?
[11:21] <nardax> but I cant use the maximum resolution.
[11:21] <raylu> pirunga, to edgy first
[11:21] <K-Ryan> nardax: If it's running smoothly, then your card seems to be working properly.
[11:22] <stdin> !upgrade | pirunga
[11:22] <ubotu> pirunga: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:22] <K-Ryan> For glxgears? It's supposed to be small.
[11:22] <NotFaint> raylu: And how about you? Do YOU trust it? :P
[11:22] <underdog5004> notfaint, check out ntfs-3g for mounting ntfs drives rw
[11:22] <K-Ryan> or bigger, my bad...
[11:22] <K-Ryan> nardax: Or do you mean your screen resolution?
[11:22] <NotFaint> underdog5004: Thought I read somewhere about that one being older than something else that's out... I can't remember exactly what I read now
[11:22] <raylu> NotFaint, nope. I have windows installed so I use it for that. I don't need it, so my opinion isn't very meaningful. it's mostly useless to me
[11:23] <raylu> it would be a welcome convenience, but not worth the risk
[11:23] <NotFaint> raylu: I can kinda see what you mean about not needing it. If I didn't play games...
[11:23] <pirunga> raylu, can I use apt or something to get edgy first?
[11:23] <nardax> screen resolution
[11:23] <NotFaint> Well, maybe I'll just risk my Windows partition. I can always wipe it. And it's not like I could get a boot sector virus, since grub owns that
[11:23] <raylu> pirunga, i think so...but i don't know how. I just installed over my edgy (never had dapper) because I wanted a fresh start
[11:24] <NotFaint> Thanks all. I'm out.
[11:24] <K-Ryan> nardax: Okay, so your maximum screen resolution isn't showing up in KDE Menu > System Settings > Monitor and Display?
[11:24] <raylu> NotFaint, you could find the virus with klam and
[11:24] <nardax> It is supposed to be able to get bigger one..
[11:24] <K-Ryan> Bye Notfaint
[11:24] <raylu> NotFaint, remove it in windows manually
[11:24] <NotFaint> raylu: It'll probably be hidden somehow in Windows.
[11:24] <nardax> no. thats the problem
[11:24] <hakaisou> anyone know of a program that can stream and transcode media to an XBox 360?
[11:24] <raylu> NotFaint, huh? why?
[11:24] <mikkael> i got enabled onboard sound + a pci card. where do i tell kubuntu which one it should use ?
[11:24] <K-Ryan> nardax: I said it isn't showing =P
[11:24] <K-Ryan> Hold on a minute here
[11:24] <NotFaint> raylu: Rootkits, stuff like that -- I'm a bit rusty, I let the utilities handle that stuff.
[11:25] <hakaisou> i know that there are windows programs that can do it, but i'm not sure about linux
[11:25] <raylu> mikkael, I think it's kmenu > system settings > sound, but i'm not sure
[11:25] <stdin> pirunga: follow this guide to go to edgy: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[11:25] <nardax> Because of that texts look little bit weird
[11:25] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:25] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:25] <NotFaint> but I mean, files hidden in alternate data streams, even, or just... I don't know. Last time I tried deleting a known infected file manually it just didn't work.
[11:25] <raylu> pirunga, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[11:25] <stdin> pirunga: then this one to go from edgy to feisty http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[11:25] <K-Ryan> nardax: Ah, okay I'm looking for a fix as we speak.
[11:25] <hakaisou> woah... infected?
[11:25] <NotFaint> Anyway, REALLY gone this time. :P Thanks again all.
[11:26] <hakaisou> did someone get a virus in linux when i wasn't looking?
[11:26] <pirunga> what the name of packege gksu ???
[11:26] <nardax> Oh, thank you..
[11:26] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[11:26] <nardax> =)
[11:26] <underdog5004> hakaisou, no, it's a virus on a windows partition, I think
[11:26] <underdog5004> a pretty mean set of 'em, sounds like
[11:27] <K-Ryan> Alright here's where I begin to not know what to do.
[11:27] <hakaisou> ah
[11:27] <hakaisou> ok then, that makes sense
[11:27] <K-Ryan> However, you're going to need to add a line in your xorg.conf
[11:27] <nardax> ok
[11:27] <basquiat> hi there. installing kde 3.5.7, I have two little questions: 1) kpager doesn't seem to work well with beryl again (only one desktop is 'active'), 2) kmail is supposed to be able to show useragent/x-mailer in fancy headers - I can't find the configuration for that. any hints?
[11:27] <Ownatik> hi, if I install kubuntu over freebsd, will it overwrite the loader?
[11:27] <nardax> I know where it is
[11:27] <raylu> pirunga, gksu = kdesu for gnome
[11:27] <K-Ryan> But I'm not sure exactly what all the numbers should be.
[11:27] <K-Ryan> Don't open it yet because I'm not going to be able to tell you what to put in.
[11:27] <raylu> basquiat, 1. is a known issue, i think. no idea about 2
[11:28] <underdog5004> basquiat, why even use kpager? just hold down the scroll button on the mouse, and move all around!
[11:28] <raylu> Ownatik, do you have a seperate /boot partition?
[11:28] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, nardax needs help adding a screen resolution in his xorg.conf, can someone help him?
[11:28] <stdin> pirunga: kde uses kdesu, not gksu
[11:28] <nardax> OK
[11:28] <basquiat> underdog5004: ehe, yes, that regression bug doesn't hurt too much, right. :)
[11:28] <raylu> K-Ryan, google: "modeline" i'm feeling lucky
[11:28] <raylu> *nardax
[11:29] <K-Ryan> But wouldn't it differ based on the monitor?
[11:29] <nardax> xorg.conf is under /ect/X11 right?
[11:29] <nardax> yup.. I'm here
[11:29] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:29] <raylu> K-Ryan, yes. but it asks you for your scan/refresh rate, etc.
[11:29] <underdog5004> basquiat, I think it's easier, imho, to use the mouse to move, rather than a little panel
[11:29] <Ownatik> raylu I don't really know .. I had windows xp installed, installed desktopbsd, got an error about grub on install and now it only loads desktopbsd which is corrupted ...
[11:29] <raylu> Ownatik, what's your partition setup?
[11:29] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:29] <K-Ryan> Oh okay that would work
[11:29] <raylu> nardax, yes. /etc
[11:29] <stdin> ahmed: maybe try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176636
[11:29] <nardax> I got it
[11:30] <stdin> ahmed: or just don't log into a xgl session
[11:30] <raylu> nardax, before you use the modeline generator, you'll need to find your monitor specs
[11:30] <ahmed> failed
[11:30] <ahmed> well there is a game warcraft3
[11:30] <ahmed> runs very slow in xgl session
[11:30] <ahmed> and in other sessions
[11:30] <Ownatik> raylu 110 gb XP, 20gb BSD , 20 gb fat32 (mp3)
[11:30] <ahmed> it doesnt run at all cause of some registry mess with wine
[11:30] <ahmed> i have an ati card, fglrx driver
[11:30] <nardax> ok
[11:30] <raylu> Ownatik, it can't be that simple. doesn't BSD require an extended and a swap partition?
[11:31] <K-Ryan> nardax: That looks like it will work so you are going to want to add that in your xorg.conf
[11:31] <K-Ryan> Save, and try to switch to it in Monitor and Display
[11:31] <nardax> OK
[11:31] <raylu> the modeline generator even tells you what section to add the modeline to and how to configure your screens
[11:31] <nardax> Should I restart Ubuntu in order to apply the change?
[11:32] <raylu> nardax, no, just X. ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:32] <raylu> wait, make sure you know how to use the console
[11:32] <nardax> and startx?
[11:32] <nardax> command
[11:32] <raylu> to revert back to your old xorg.conf
[11:32] <nardax> ok
[11:32] <raylu> ctrl+alt+backspace starts x for you
[11:32] <nardax> ok
[11:32] <Ownatik> raylu probably, but the install should make one
[11:32] <nardax> I'll do it right now
[11:32] <K-Ryan> "Linux, because rebooting is only for hardware changes."
[11:33] <raylu> Ownatik, it's not uncommon for nix installs to have seperate partitions for /etc, /boot, /home, etc...
[11:33] <nardax> ok..
[11:33] <nardax> I got it
[11:33] <K-Ryan> Just a quote =P
[11:33] <raylu> lol, K-Ryan. wait till you see me hotplug a cd-drive in :P
[11:33] <AutoMatriX> hi there, you geeks
[11:33] <nardax> thank you guys. After I restart the X, I'll be back
[11:33] <K-Ryan> Hello AutoMatriX...
[11:33] <K-Ryan> No problem nardax
[11:34] <Ownatik> raylu anyway im pretty screwed, all I want is my XP back so I can reinstall kubuntu after
[11:34] <raylu> Ownatik, huh? i thought your concern was your grub loader
[11:34] <Osiris207> back
[11:34] <raylu> Ownatik, does your boot loader not work?
[11:34] <Osiris207> stdin , did you find anything
[11:35] <Ownatik> raylu that's it , but it seems the BSD loader override grub or something
[11:35] <Osiris207> i did that chmod +x makedrv , but that script has errors all over it
[11:35] <raylu> Ownatik, what's the BSD loader called?
[11:35] <raylu> Osiris207, chmod or makedrv?
[11:35] <stdin> Osiris207: can't get it to work here, I'd say to try ndiswrapper
[11:35] <Osiris207> makedrv
[11:35] <raylu> what's Osiris's brand/model?
[11:35] <Ownatik> raylu I don't really know but I think it's or BTX or boot0loader
[11:35] <Ownatik> something like that
[11:35] <raylu> what were the errors makedrv gave?
[11:35] <Osiris207> rtl8185l
[11:36] <Osiris207> i didnt copy them
[11:36] <raylu> Ownatik, it is possible to install just grub from a (k)ubuntu livecd
[11:36] <Osiris207> but it was loads , files missing , all sorts
[11:36] <raylu> Osiris207, i'm sure you just need to install a few packages
[11:36] <raylu> Osiris207, unless they were syntax errors or something
[11:37] <Osiris207> i'll use ndiswrapper , i've used it before , but it mucked opensuse up
[11:37] <Osiris207> lets hope kubuntu isnt as bad
[11:37] <Ownatik> raylu I don't know, but i'm reinstalling kubuntu instead od BSD , hope it'll work or im screwed
[11:37] <raylu> Ownatik, why? if you just want XP back, just install grub
[11:37] <stdin> raylu: output here is http://stdin.pastebin.us/36659
[11:38] <Ownatik> raylu i want xp ans kubuntu, so wo't installing kubuntu install grub also?
[11:38] <raylu> stdin, i assume you ran the configure script?
[11:38] <K-Ryan> Yes Ownatik
[11:38] <raylu> Ownatik, oh. in that case, go ahead
[11:38] <Ownatik> ok thanks
[11:38] <stdin> raylu: there is no configure script
[11:39] <raylu> stdin, yeah. the thing isn't passing the right number of arguments to a dozen different functions. i suppose it actually was miscoded...
[11:39] <hakaisou> ok, now to unmount the drives
[11:39] <hakaisou> the unmount command is umount, right?
[11:39] <DarkFeeling> is there to difficult to change the bootsplash image and set one i like?
[11:40] <RawSewage> I use KwikDisk
[11:40] <stdin> raylu: either that, or the kernel has changed too much in the time it was written, it's for 2.6.x
[11:40] <RawSewage> it's an icon in your tray for easy mounting, see how much space you have, etc.   It's part of the  kdf package
[11:40] <raylu> oh.
[11:40] <K-Ryan> DarkFeeling: I know it's easy to change the splash screen, but I'm not sure about a custom one.
[11:40] <raylu> hakaisou, yes
[11:41] <stdin> hakaisou: yeah, sudo umount /mnt/mnt, then sudo umount /mnt
[11:41] <raylu> DarkFeeling, the boot loader or the splash screen?
[11:41] <stdin> hakaisou: if that's how you mounted them
[11:41] <hakaisou> it is
[11:41] <selim> selam
[11:41] <DarkFeeling> K-Ryan, its not the splash screen. is that one that says kubunu with the blue bar right before you type the login stuff.
[11:41] <hakaisou> and yea they are all unmounted now
[11:41] <selim_> 1
[11:41] <orville> DarkFeeling: there is a readme that comes with the grub-themes that explains how.
[11:41] <K-Ryan> Ah, not sure about that/
[11:41] <K-Ryan> He wants to change the Kubuntu loading screen logo.
[11:42] <orville> DarkFeeling: nm. I don't think you're referring to the grub boot screen :-)
[11:42] <K-Ryan> When booting up.
[11:42] <orville> oh.
[11:42] <raylu> DarkFeeling, usplash. but don't run that command :P there is some too to configure it
[11:42] <DarkFeeling> K-Ryan, thats right i dindt know whow to say it
[11:42] <orville> he does.
[11:42] <raylu> *tool
[11:42] <raylu> !startupmanager
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startupmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <raylu> !info startupmanager
[11:42] <ubotu> Package startupmanager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:43] <raylu> eh?
[11:43] <raylu> oh, right
[11:43] <ahmed> guys any windows emulator other than wine ??
[11:43] <raylu> DarkFeeling, deb http://ubuntusoftware.info/ edgy all
[11:43] <raylu> ahmed, winex, cedega, crossover
[11:43] <raylu> all mostly the same thing :P
[11:43] <stdin> ahmed: wine is not an emulator tho
[11:43] <stdin> and winex is dead
[11:44] <stdin> has been for a while now
[11:44] <matthew_> ahmed, maybe...cedega...but it's based on wine, I think
[11:44] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I change the menu so it doesn't do "Package name (package description)"? I can't find the option anywhere at all, and I really don't like it.
[11:44] <ahmed> well wine alternate then
[11:44] <ahmed> but cedega aint free .. any pirated version or so ?
[11:44] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, context, please
[11:44] <matthew_> we can't endorse that, I'm sorry, ahmed
[11:44] <Lunar_Lamp> raylu, the "k-menu".
[11:44] <raylu> ahmed, if there was, woiuld we tell you?
[11:44] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, the kmenu doesn't say package anywhere...
[11:44] <LjL> !piracy
[11:44] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[11:45] <matthew_> ahmed, you might check out virtualbox or vmware player. You can just install windows on a virtual machine and run whatever from there.
[11:45] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, oh. i see what you mean. right-click > edit menu
[11:45] <Lunar_Lamp> raylu, it gives the package name in the menu, and the package description. For example "k3b (CD&DDVD burning)"
[11:45] <ahmed> well yea but it will be real slow
[11:45] <ahmed> running anything
[11:45] <ahmed> especially games
[11:45] <raylu> that's neither the package name nor description, though :p
[11:45] <matthew_> ahmed, what game are you trying to play? you might ust want to have an XP partition that is specifically for gaming
[11:46] <Lunar_Lamp> I can't see any option to change it when I right click and edit menu...
[11:46] <matthew_> ahmed, dual booting, I mean
[11:46] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, type it in on the right
[11:46] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, and click save to update
[11:46] <nardax> I'm back
[11:46] <ahmed> nahh
[11:46] <ahmed> matthew i want a wine alternate
[11:46] <Lunar_Lamp> raylu, I want to stop it showing the descriptions...
[11:46] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, so take them out!
[11:47] <Lunar_Lamp> All of them? There are loads!
[11:47] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm sure there's an option to turn that off too..
[11:47] <raylu> not really. each one is set independently of the others
[11:47] <Lunar_Lamp> So there is no "hide description" button?
[11:47] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm sure I've used it before...
[11:48] <raylu> not that i know of. again, it's not a description
[11:48] <raylu> it's part of the menu label
[11:48] <Lunar_Lamp> The dialogue calls it a description.
[11:48] <K-Ryan> Umm, how would I go about searching "insert file name"
[11:48] <K-Ryan> ?
[11:48] <Lunar_Lamp> Name: Akregator
[11:48] <raylu> K-Ryan, in what?
[11:48] <Lunar_Lamp> Descroption: RSS feed reader
[11:48] <K-Ryan> Terminal
[11:48] <K-Ryan> Konsole
[11:48] <raylu> K-Ryan, searching...in what
[11:48] <Lunar_Lamp> Comment: an rss akregator for kde
[11:48] <ahmed> whats winex ?
[11:49] <K-Ryan> In the Konsole
[11:49] <K-Ryan> I'm looking for a file
[11:49] <hakaisou> question
[11:49] <raylu> K-Ryan, oh. in your HD, then
[11:49] <hakaisou> is a 2Gig swap file overkill?
[11:49] <K-Ryan> Oh, right, sorry =P
[11:49] <hakaisou> swap partition i mean
[11:49] <K-Ryan> How much RAM?
[11:49] <hakaisou> 2 Gigs
[11:49] <K-Ryan> Err, they recommend twice your RAM
[11:49] <ahmed> wats winex ?
[11:49] <hakaisou> a ripoff
[11:49] <K-Ryan> But 4 gigs of swap, never heard of that before.
[11:49] <K-Ryan> !winex
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <raylu> K-Ryan, i don't remember the command, but find [path]  [expr]  may work for you
[11:50] <K-Ryan> No idea ahmed
[11:50] <hakaisou> winex is now called cedega
[11:50] <hakaisou> !cedega
[11:50] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:50] <hakaisou> if you want to spend money on stuff Wine can do anyway, sure
[11:50] <K-Ryan> raylu: expr?
[11:50] <raylu> K-Ryan, expression. try kfind
[11:50] <hakaisou> well, i'll stick with a 2gig Swap
[11:50] <raylu> wait, nvm. that's GUI
[11:50] <mahdi_> there anyway to switch my system clock from military time to regular am/pm?
[11:51] <hakaisou> mostly cause i've got it configured like that, and 4 gigs does seem WAY overkill
[11:51] <K-Ryan> I don't seem to have Kfind...
[11:51] <raylu> mahdi_, right-click, format
[11:51] <K-Ryan> Yes mahdi_
[11:51] <raylu> K-Ryan, lowercase k. but that's gui
[11:51] <K-Ryan> Right click the clock and goto configure clock
[11:51] <K-Ryan> Oh, right
[11:51] <K-Ryan> "kfind"
[11:52] <K-Ryan> mahdi_: Sorry that's not it, ignore my "right click configure"
[11:52] <tree_> hello
[11:52] <raylu> locate(1), locatedb(5), updatedb(1),  xargs(1),  chmod(1),  fnmatch(3),
[11:52] <raylu>        regex(7),  stat(2),  lstat(2), ls(1), printf(3), strftime(3), ctime(3),
[11:52] <raylu>        Finding Files (on-line in Info, or printed).
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Hi there tree_!
[11:52] <mahdi_> K-Ryan: was about to say, didn't see anything in the configure dialogue for that
[11:53] <K-Ryan> Yeah it's right click date & time format
[11:53] <tree_> i keep having a reoccuring problem where under fiesty.. certain sites like nhl.com etc cause flash to sieze up and freeze the machine
[11:53] <K-Ryan> Have you tried to install flash?
[11:53] <tree_> is there anyway to uninstall flash 9?
[11:53] <K-Ryan> How did you try to install it?
[11:53] <K-Ryan> You didn't download the package did you? =P
[11:54] <tree_> i might have
[11:54] <K-Ryan> Did you download it from Add/Remove Programs, sudo apt-get install, Adept Package Manager, or Synaptic Package Manager?
[11:55] <tree_> i did sudo apt-get install
[11:55] <tree_> i did this :   sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:56] <K-Ryan> oh
[11:56] <tree_> now i wished i hadent
[11:56] <K-Ryan> That sounds about right
[11:56] <tree_> ok
[11:56] <K-Ryan> Here's what you do
[11:56] <tree_> k
[11:56] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[11:56] <albertmk> Does anyone understand the problem with "No rule to make target,," ?????
[11:56] <K-Ryan> Then afterward you can try reinstalling it, otherwise you may need some kind of a replacement.
[11:56] <raylu> albertmk, you need to ./configure
[11:57] <albertmk> In fact, there is no configure file anywhere
[11:57] <albertmk> It must be because I am using cmake.
[11:57] <tree_> kryan thx
[11:57] <raylu> albertmk, what are you trying to make?
[11:57] <tree_> wheres the best place to install flash 9 from?
[11:57] <raylu> tree_, firefox has an automatic installer, but that doesn't seem to work too often
[11:57] <K-Ryan> The repositories
[11:57] <K-Ryan> (What you did)
[11:58] <albertmk> raylu: I am trying to make a software called openModeller
[11:58] <K-Ryan> When I first had Ubuntu I actually downloaded the linux version from adobe and somehow managed to get it working.
[11:59] <tree_> i'll do some more googling
[11:59] <albertmk> raylu: Do you want me to show you the text of the problem?
[11:59] <K-Ryan> tree_ are you using firefox?
[11:59] <tree_> yes swiftfox even
[11:59] <K-Ryan> swiftfox? never heard of it
[11:59] <raylu> albertmk, sure, I guess
[11:59] <K-Ryan> However, you might want to try sudo apt-get isntall swf-player
[11:59] <K-Ryan> *install
[11:59] <tree_> but it freezes konqueror on the same pages as firefox
[11:59] <raylu> !swiftfox
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <K-Ryan> How about when you didn't have flash?
[12:00] <albertmk> raylu: can you tell me the website for posting stuff?
[12:00] <K-Ryan> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <K-Ryan> ;)
[12:00] <luke-jr_work> Does Kubuntu count as Ubuntu?
[12:00] <albertmk> :P
[12:00] <K-Ryan> It's a version of it
[12:00] <raylu> !kubuntu
[12:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:00] <luke-jr_work> eg, if I am installing a server, will I get the *exact* same thing?
[12:00] <K-Ryan> What do you mean by "thing"?
[12:00] <raylu> o.0? ubuntu server is ubuntu without the gui...
[12:00] <raylu> so wth is a kubuntu server?
[12:01] <luke-jr_work> K-Ryan: finished product
[12:01] <K-Ryan> Sure, might use a different program.
[12:01] <luke-jr_work> all the files binary equal etc
[12:01] <K-Ryan> By default anyway
[12:01] <luke-jr_work> hm
[12:01] <albertmk> raylu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22056/
[12:01] <K-Ryan> Rule of thumb is that whatever works on Ubuntu works on Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu
[12:01] <luke-jr_work> doesn't mean a corp will support it...
[12:02] <luke-jr_work> unless it's binary equal so they cannot determine a difference
[12:02] <hakaisou> ok then, time to reboot
[12:02] <hakaisou> :D
[12:02] <K-Ryan> The same file would work on Ubuntu/Kubuntu/etc.
[12:02] <K-Ryan> Without changes
[12:02] <K-Ryan> Granted it's not meant for Windows
[12:02] <Cugel> "Since this seems to be a pretty big issue and ALL the solutions proposed don't work in my case, I'm switching back to Windows." -- some people need to be a bit more patient.
[12:02] <raylu> albertmk, what's in build.bat, autogen.sh, and doCheckInstall.sh?
[12:02] <Ash-Fox> Apparently I shouldn't be able to play dvds on according to someone if I don't have libdvdcss. Now, I know if I set the regioncode on my DVD drive to the correct region of the DVD, I can play those DVDs. However, what I found was interesting... I can play region 1 DVDs on my DVD drive that has region 2 set, while not having libdvdcss installed (I just have ubuntu-restricted-extras and libxine-extracodecs installed) -- Can anyone explain the 
[12:02] <K-Ryan> I agree Cugel
[12:03] <luke-jr_work> but unless it's exactly Ubuntu 6.06, the company will not support
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> I bet that cut off.
[12:03] <Cugel> (from a thread on the ubuntuforums)
[12:03] <albertmk> raylu: Do you want me to run it?
[12:03] <raylu> albertmk, um...sure.
[12:03] <K-Ryan> luke-jr_work: Same
[12:03] <K-Ryan> What works on 6.06 works on 6.10 and 7.04 if I'm not mistaken
[12:03] <albertmk> raylu: hmmm
[12:03] <tree_> k-ryan on a site that says you need this flash plugin click here to install... and it installs adobe flash...is that the best way to go?
[12:04] <raylu> K-Ryan, wireless :P
[12:04] <raylu> tree_, i'd recommend trying t
[12:04] <raylu> *it
[12:04] <K-Ryan> Psshh, that's not an issue here raylu
[12:04] <tree_> k thx
[12:04] <K-Ryan> tree_ You might want to try reinstalling the flash package first
[12:04] <K-Ryan> Just in case it was a package gone wrong
[12:04] <K-Ryan> Up to you though
[12:04] <albertmk> raylu: How can I run a .bat file?
[12:04] <luke-jr_work> K-Ryan: but if I call up VMWare, they will refuse to help if it's 6.10 or 7.04
[12:04] <K-Ryan> Whatever works you should use =P
[12:05] <raylu> albertmk, oh. don't run that one :P just open it in a text editor
[12:05] <albertmk> raylu: and I cannot run doCheckInstall.sh.
[12:05] <K-Ryan> Then you should be happy you're on 6.06 luke-jr_work
[12:05] <raylu> albertmk, why not?
[12:05] <tree_> every time i go to NHL.com i get a system freeze
[12:05] <tree_> from flash
[12:05] <tree_> i suspect
[12:05] <K-Ryan> Is there no flash-less version?
[12:06] <K-Ryan> I haven't been there in a while so I don't know...
[12:06] <albertmk> ./doCheckInstall.sh
[12:06] <albertmk> ./doCheckInstall.sh: line 13: checkinstall: command not found
[12:06] <tree_> im only going there as a test
[12:06] <K-Ryan> Without flash?
[12:06] <tree_> because i know it did freeze the system before
[12:06] <tree_> its full of flash
[12:06] <K-Ryan> No, are you going there without flash installe
[12:06] <K-Ryan> d
[12:07] <tree_> when u install ubuntu does it matter whether you choose gdm or kdm?
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Welcome back hendaus
[12:07] <hendaus> thanx K-Ryan :)
[12:07] <K-Ryan> tree_ Just changes your commands I believe
[12:07] <tree_> flash was uninstalled, then reinstalled
[12:07] <hendaus> can i private u
[12:07] <albertmk> raylu: Build.bat has: qmake and make
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Sure
[12:07] <hendaus> :)
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Okay tree_, try that out.
[12:07] <K-Ryan> If that doesn't work, you can't use that flash package.
[12:07] <tree_> try which out???
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Going to the site
[12:08] <Hash-the-cracker> hello
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Actually, have you tried going somewhere with maybe one or two flash things?
[12:08] <tree_> with flash uninstalled?
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Less intensive
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Hi there Hash-the-cracker
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Yes tree_, if you reinstalled that's the only way to test the package.
[12:08] <Hash-the-cracker> hehe, thankz 4 the welcome
[12:08] <K-Ryan> No problem ;)
[12:09] <K-Ryan> So, having trouble?
[12:09] <Hash-the-cracker> yea a bit
[12:09] <K-Ryan> What's the problem?
[12:09] <Hash-the-cracker> think you could help me
[12:09] <Hash-the-cracker> well...
[12:09] <tree_> its unnerving becuase it causes a full crash that requires a reboot
[12:09] <K-Ryan> I can imagine tree_
[12:09] <K-Ryan> It's up to you =P
[12:09] <tree_> im going to uninstall flash and reinstall it carefully
[12:10] <albertmk> raylu: raylu?
[12:10] <raylu> ?
[12:10] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  did u read my pvmsg?
[12:10] <raylu> i'm out of ideas :P
[12:10] <albertmk> raylu: Any idea?
[12:10] <K-Ryan> Didn't get it hendaus
[12:10] <albertmk> :(
[12:10] <raylu> albertmk, have you read the install file?
[12:10] <albertmk> yes, like 10 times.
[12:11] <Hash-the-cracker> each time there are updates or i install something, i install them, but at the end it says that it did not install all packages even tho it did and the same 3 packages keep coming up, the problem for all of them was the couldent be configured, any help?
[12:11] <K-Ryan> What packages?
[12:11] <raylu> Hash-the-cracker, you sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:11] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  dude i want to install amsn,amule,xchat , avidemux and many things.... how can i download automatix2
[12:11] <ThinkTank> Hello, does anyone know how to add the latest NVIDIA driver to Kubuntu low latency kernel
[12:11] <raylu> hendaus, automatix2 isn't recommended
[12:11] <K-Ryan> !automatix | hendaus
[12:11] <ubotu> hendaus: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:12] <K-Ryan> Don't use it, I've already had one person do it and they needed a fresh install.
[12:12] <Hash-the-cracker> also, what is aptitude?
[12:12] <raylu> !aptitude
[12:12] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:12] <K-Ryan> Same as apt-get but it tracks dependencies I'm told
[12:12] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  so help me with amsn amule xchat and skype ..
[12:13] <raylu> same as apt-get, but without super cow powers, or so it claimms
[12:13] <raylu> *claims
[12:13] <K-Ryan> Well I knwo there is a skype package in the repositories somewhere
[12:13] <K-Ryan> *know
[12:13] <K-Ryan> No idea about amsn, amule, or xchat
[12:13] <raylu> sudo aptitude install skype
[12:13] <hendaus> ok and amule?
[12:13] <K-Ryan> See above ;)
[12:13] <raylu> sudo aptitude install xchat
[12:14] <Hash-the-cracker> how can i get ubuntu to see my mic? they way i see it a mic is a mic, so shouldnt it be covered by a generic driver??
[12:14] <raylu> sudo aptitude install amule
[12:14] <sayers> !nvidia|Sayers
[12:14] <K-Ryan> !nvidia | sayers
[12:14] <raylu> oh yeah. amsn.
[12:14] <ubotu> sayers: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:14] <K-Ryan> You need the space =P
[12:14] <sayers> I got it already :s
[12:14] <sayers> it pmed me \
[12:14] <sayers> thats what i wanted :)
[12:14] <K-Ryan> Oh!
[12:14] <raylu> sudo aptitude install amsn
[12:14] <raylu> :D
[12:15] <K-Ryan> Ok, didn't know that was another way to PM it...
[12:15] <tree_> i went back from swiftfox to firefox and it seems to work no freeze yet
[12:15] <K-Ryan> That's good
[12:15] <hendaus> raylu: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "skype"
[12:15] <Hash-the-cracker> so... about the mic