[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #4027 in rosetta "Timeout error when browsing a translation (dup-of: 3991)" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4027
[03:47] <LaserJock> argg, he's at it again ;-)
[03:49] <_thumper_> LaserJock: who?
[03:49] <LaserJock> Joey
[03:50] <LaserJock> I love getting lots of retargetting bugs
[03:51] <Hobbsee> which joey?
[03:51] <thumper> Hobbsee: Rinchen
[03:51] <Hobbsee> ahh
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116135 in launchpad "Bounty pages are still visible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116135
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116138 in launchpad-bazaar "Upgrade code hosting to use Bazaar 0.16" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116138
[08:41] <carlos> morning
[08:42] <adedov> hi! I have a question aboute bazaar. Can I change commit text of an already commited change? Without hacks so I could propagate it to remote branch too.
[08:43] <jml> adedov: well, there is uncommit
[08:44] <adedov> So I can 'push' uncommit to remote branch?
[08:51] <jml> adedov: yes, I think so.
[08:58] <adedov> hm. I cannot realize how to do that :(
[09:00] <adedov> I have commited revision that was actually merge from launchpad branch. And then pushed it back on launchpad. But it has been appeared that commit message is wrong. Can I fix it out now?
[09:09] <mpt> Awesome, Launchpad is now famous enough to be the target of domain squatters
[09:10] <mpt> http://launchpadnet.com/
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #50438 in bzr "Race during simultaneous commits to the same bound branch (dup-of: 87934)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50438
[09:16] <Fujitsu> mpt: Heh.
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116153 in malone "Can't record that a bug was fixed in a now-inactive milestone" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116153
[11:16] <SteveA> morning
[11:27] <Hobbsee> hi SteveA!
[11:30] <dneary> hi
[11:30] <dneary> Rosetta question:
[11:30] <dneary> How do people use Rosetta to translate .desktop comments?
[11:30] <dneary> (or rather, do people use Rosetta to translate .desktop comments?)
[11:43] <SteveA> Hobbsee: hi
[11:47] <carlos> dneary: .desktop comments?
[11:47] <carlos> dneary: you mean Title, Name, etc ?
[11:47] <dneary> carlos: .desktop files
[11:47] <dneary> they contain a fiels "Comment"
[11:47] <dneary> which gets translated 
[11:47] <carlos> oh, right, and other fields to translate
[11:47] <dneary> Are there others?
[11:48] <dneary> That's the important one, since it's the info message when you hover over an icon
[11:48] <carlos> dneary: we don't support that directly, but GNOME and KDE have procedures to get such files translated inside a .po file
[11:48] <dneary> carlos: I guess I'll look at the GNOME procedures, then
[11:49] <carlos> dneary: hmm,  Name and Comment (I mixed Title with Comment)
[11:49] <carlos> dneary: for GNOME, it's intltool
[11:49] <carlos> dneary: is it for WengoPhone?
[11:49] <dneary> carlos: yes
[11:49] <carlos> dneary: isn't it using QT?
[11:49] <dneary> I didn't think intltool particularly did desktop files
[11:49] <carlos> dneary: yeah, it does
[11:50] <dneary> carlos: Unlike KDE, we use QT .ts files
[11:50] <dneary> But we go through Launchpad, thus .po to .ts conversion
[11:50] <dneary> And if there's a way to generate a .po file from a .desktop file, that'll do me
[11:50] <dneary> we'll shove it into launchpad, and just keep it as a po
[11:50] <carlos> ok, I was going to suggest to use the same tools as KDE for .desktop files, but if you are already using something else for translations, I guess is ok. intltool is just a build time dependency
[01:29] <tokj> hi
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116190 in launchpad "Duplicate bugs not visible when bug is marked duplicate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116190
[05:06] <seb128> hi
[05:07] <seb128> how do we change the default product associted to a package?
[05:33] <kiko> seb128, it requires a database mod, but email me and I can sort it out.
[05:33] <seb128> kiko: I need to figure all the package borked
[05:33] <kiko> what changed, seb128 
[05:34] <seb128> there is a redubuntu taking over upstream product for several desktop packages
[05:43] <kiko> seb128, redubuntu?
[05:44] <seb128> "rebuntu"
[05:44] <kiko> seb128, can you explain in more detail? I'm concerned but confused!
[05:44] <seb128> kiko: try opening an upstream task on gnome-themes
[05:44] <seb128> wait
[05:45] <kiko> okidok
[05:45] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-themes/+bug/94791
[05:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 94791 in gnome-themes "custom colors for active and inactive are too similar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[05:45] <seb128> click on "Upstream"
[05:45] <seb128> it does
[05:45] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-themes/+bug/94791/+add-affected-product?field.product=rebuntu
[05:45] <seb128> 
[05:45] <seb128> the default product used to be gnome-themes
[05:45] <seb128> quite some desktop packages have been screwed the same way
[05:46] <seb128> some product took over the nice assignment we configured :(
[05:46] <seb128> so now when you click on Upstream, copy the bugzilla URI and hit enter you get a task on rebuntu
[05:46] <seb128> which has nothing to do with the corresponding package
[05:47] <seb128> kiko: clearer? ;)
[05:48] <kiko> wtf
[05:48] <seb128> I spoke about it with carlos yesterday morning
[05:48] <carlos> kiko: I sent an email to launchpad mailing list yesterday
[05:49] <carlos> about it
[05:49] <kiko> I think, I think we can just nuke all the packaging entries
[05:49] <seb128> gnome-utils is b0rked by it also
[05:49] <kiko> seb128, I'm going to deal with it today. hang on.
[05:49] <carlos> kiko: sure, but someone should contact the owner of the product and explain the issue
[05:49] <kiko> matsubara, can you help me a tad?
[05:50] <seb128> kiko: if you can do something quickly I'll own you a beer ;)
[05:50] <kiko> carlos, I'm going to do just that. 
[05:50] <carlos> kiko: thanks
[05:50] <matsubara> kiko: what's up?
[05:50] <kiko> matsubara, can you do a query on packaging and see how many entries we have pointing to "rebuntu"?
[05:50] <kiko> matsubara, maybe stick it in a paste for me?
[05:52] <seb128> kiko: https://launchpad.net/rebuntu/+distributions ?
[05:58] <matsubara> kiko: I think seb128's listing has it.
[05:58] <kiko> yeah, perfect.
[06:35] <tokj> hi all
[06:38] <kiko> hey tokj 
[07:22] <jan___> hello
[08:20] <jan___> I have a question about keyboard shortcuts
[08:20] <jan___> Do I have to add a & in translations?
[08:22] <kiko> jan___, you need to, most likely.
[08:22] <kiko> jan___, can you show me the exact string?
[08:23] <jan___> For example the English word is '&Close'
[08:24] <jan___> How do I have to translate this. The Dutch word is 'Afsluiten'
[08:24] <jan___> So I cannot put the '&' in front of a 'c' in the Dutch word.
[08:25] <kiko> I think the &Close means that C will be the shortcut, right.
[08:25] <jan___> I think so
[08:25] <kiko> jan___, in this case it is slightly tricky but you need to figure out what letters are free in the translated menu.
[08:25] <kiko> and then prefix the & to what letter you find.
[08:26] <jan___> If I choose a another letter, will it be automatically recognized as the new shortcut?
[08:26] <kiko> yes, that's the idea.
[08:26] <jan___> OK, thanks
[08:26] <kiko> is this for a KDE package?
[08:26] <kiko> or qt-based?
[08:27] <jan___> No it is for wengophone, indeed qt-based
[08:27] <kiko> jan___, okay. for gtk+ apps it's a leading underscore, which is why the & put me slightly confused.
[08:28] <jan___> hmm, I saw the & in the original English sentences.
[08:29] <jan___> Looking in the application, I do not see keyboard shortcuts at all.
[08:30] <kiko> jan___, they might not be displayed graphically
[08:30] <kiko> maybe they are highlighted on alt
[08:31] <jan___> indeed they are highlighted on alt
[08:31] <kiko> bingo
[08:35] <jan___> OK, thanks, bye
[08:38] <Mosby> hi!
[08:52] <glatzor__> carlos: evening. could you please remove the German Rosetta translations of gdm and gnome-power-manager?
[08:53] <carlos> glatzor__: please file a request on answers.launchpad.net/rosetta
[08:53] <carlos> I'm quite busy right now with some urgent tasks so I will not be able to do it until tomorrow or maybe Thursday
[08:53] <carlos> that way I don't forget it
[08:54] <Mosby> how can I delete a wrong "release series" and protect my project from being changed by unauthorized people?
[08:55] <carlos> Mosby: changed in which way?
[08:55] <carlos> Mosby: are you the current owner of the project?
[08:55] <Mosby> yes
[08:56] <Mosby> as I saw, anyone can create release series in my project...
[08:56] <carlos> Mosby: about removing series, I think you cannot do it yourself you will need to file a request on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad so and admin does it for you
[08:56] <Mosby> how can i allow only team people to do that?
[08:57] <Mosby> ok...
[08:57] <carlos> Mosby: hmm, there is no way to prevent it right now, is the way the system is 
[08:57] <Mosby> will be any way to prevent this in a near future?
[08:57] <carlos> Mosby: I think you should file a bug requesting it to be changed with your argument
[08:58] <Mosby> ok, thanks
[09:00] <lifeless> salgado: also, wget https: -> wants password: )
[09:00] <carlos> Mosby: btw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/2141 is your other problem (remove a series)
[09:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 2141 in launchpad "You can't remove series in products" [Low,Confirmed]  
[09:00] <lifeless> salgado: so this is a problem :)
[09:00] <salgado> lifeless, indeed
[09:01] <lifeless> salgado: in fact, I can't seem to get the key no matter what :(.
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116258 in launchpad "Anyone can change any project" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116258
[09:23] <Mosby> carlos, i sent the bug as you said...
[09:23] <carlos> Mosby: I saw it. Thank you
[09:26] <Mosby> btw, my name is carlos too ^^
[09:28] <carlos> Mosby: :-)
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116131 in malone "launchpad timeout error on subject" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116131
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116265 in launchpad "It is possible to subscribe to wiki pages you don't have permission to see" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116265
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #116279 in launchpad "cdmirror info page lists flavours randomly sorted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116279
[11:26] <thumper> morning