[09:09] <aftertaf> hi all.... any info on wifi with prism54 cards?
[09:09] <aftertaf> i have no wifi anymore
[09:12] <aftertaf> SIOCSIFADDR: no such device
[09:12] <aftertaf> eth 1: ERROR while getting interface flags
[09:13] <aftertaf> and when i search for modules for prism, i dont see any above 2.6.20.13 in lib/modules/[kernel] 
[09:32] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: feisty support is in #ubuntu now
[09:33] <aftertaf> i know. but i'm on gutsy
[09:33] <aftertaf> because i could never  boot to the stable feisty kernel
[09:33] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: not with that kernel your not
[09:33] <aftertaf> so u upgraded and have tried 22-1,2,3,4 and have similar problems
[09:33] <aftertaf> im on 22-3 right now
[09:33] <gnomefreak> lowest gutsy kernel is 2.6.20-15
[09:34] <gnomefreak> ah
[09:34] <aftertaf> but still...... no modules available.
[09:34] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: you do know that kernel isnt complete right?
[09:34] <aftertaf> which can explain why it aint modprobing.....
[09:34] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: when its complete you will get upgrade notification
[09:35] <aftertaf> yeah, but even when i revert to older kernel (feisty dev kernel) i dont have wifi anymore
[09:35] <aftertaf> 2.6.20-13 is the last working kernel on my machine... working as in wifi ok and PC boots ok.
[09:35] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: because the drivers you need are in the parts of the kernel that are not complete.
[09:35] <aftertaf> d'oh .... :)
[09:36] <gnomefreak> 2.6.20-15 == gutsy kernel in gutsy
[09:36] <aftertaf> thats a good explanation, in any case...
[09:36] <aftertaf> 20-15 is the stable feisty too, right?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:36] <gnomefreak> notice you have 2.6.22 restricted modules package installed also
[09:37] <aftertaf> because it justes freezes on my PC like a lot of the dev kernels did too... hangs on boot (due to SATA problem i think)
[09:37] <gnomefreak> right where wifi drivers are held (unless they moved)
[09:37] <aftertaf> ..restricted..;, yes I do
[09:38] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: what your seeing is normal on devel systems it has been like that in all since breezy (atleast since ive been using devel versions) they are normally fixed by alpha 1-2
[09:39] <aftertaf> i think i upgraded a little early, but i was hoping the kernel would work better than the feisty release version
[09:39] <aftertaf> ok... but what is weird is that stable feisty wont boot either
[09:39] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: way too early
[09:39] <aftertaf> (me too for unstable.... i like the danger... it's good to learn...)
[09:39] <aftertaf> wayyyyyyyyyy :)
[09:39] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: that is your system
[09:39] <aftertaf> yeah, but.....
[09:39] <gnomefreak> im using the 2.6.20-15 fine here
[09:41] <aftertaf> i have a sata controller that i dont use in my PC, and since the first 2.6.19-kernels in development feisty it  wouldnt boot
[09:41] <gnomefreak> brb smoke while upload finishes
[09:42] <aftertaf> i found info from ben collins about a code change in the kernel to fix it, they did it.... and it seems they rolled back on it for stable ... :/
[09:42] <aftertaf> me too. cig :)
[09:42] <aftertaf> top o' tha mornin' ompaul :)
[09:48] <ompaul> mornin
[09:49] <gnomefreak> morning
[09:51] <aftertaf> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106864
[09:52] <aftertaf> resumes my feisty problem
[09:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed] 
[09:52] <aftertaf> (also with 22-1 and 22-4)
[09:52] <gnomefreak> not 22-5?
[09:57] <aftertaf> not ttried yet
[09:57] <aftertaf> i have to move my router to put a lan cable
[09:57] <aftertaf> no wifi.... remember? :)
[09:58] <aftertaf> damn, never rolled that cigarette.....
[09:58] <aftertaf> trying the piix initramfs solution
[10:02] <aftertaf> hey... looking good :)
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ha
[10:04] <gnomefreak> oops sorry
[10:04] <gnomefreak> glad you got it working
[10:04] <aftertaf> not yet working, but looking like module is loaded
[10:09] <aftertaf> ok, still failing to bring up wifi
[10:09] <aftertaf> and control center is showing no devices.....
[10:13] <aftertaf> now no dhcp being offered.
[10:13] <aftertaf> like i cant activate wep or anything
[10:14] <aftertaf> and what is wmaster0 ?
[10:23] <aftertaf> ok. it is loading the driver but i cant get wifi working... maybe some remnants of gutsy?
[10:24] <aftertaf> can i auto drop back to feisty packages?
[10:36] <SmokeyD> hey people. Does anybody know when mozilla thunderbird will be put in Ubuntu? And Is Mozilla SUnbird going to be incorporated in Ubuntu?
[10:38] <crimsun> mozilla-thunderbird has been in Ubuntu since Warty.
[10:39] <crimsun> Are you meaning to ask about TB v2?
[10:39] <SmokeyD> yeah
[10:39] <SmokeyD> sorry
[10:39] <SmokeyD> typo
[10:39] <SmokeyD> :)
[10:39] <crimsun> thunderbird is already in Ubuntu gutsy.
[10:40] <crimsun> there is no ETA on a backport to stable releases.
[10:40] <SmokeyD> ok
[10:40] <SmokeyD> cool
[10:40] <SmokeyD> will updates to TB v2 also become available for feisty? Or should I wait for Gutsy to become stable
[10:41] <crimsun> < crimsun> there is no ETA on a backport to stable releases.
[10:41] <SmokeyD> oops
[10:41] <SmokeyD> sorry
[10:42] <SmokeyD> :) I should read better
[10:44] <julo> hi
[10:46] <gnomefreak> not yet decided if/when it will happen
[10:46] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: we are looking at sunbird but we are waiting for them to use stable tree instead of trunk
[10:47] <gnomefreak> maybe .5 in gutsy
[10:47] <SmokeyD> ok cool
[10:47] <SmokeyD> it has some nice plugins and stuff. For synchronizing google calendar, opensync, etc. And is cross platform unlike evolution :)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: there is a testing repo with tb2 in it for feisty
[10:48] <SmokeyD> hmm, ok. Which is it?
[10:48] <SmokeyD> So I can test it
[10:48] <SmokeyD> :)
[10:49] <gnomefreak> !moztest
[10:49] <ubotu> The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[10:49] <SmokeyD> ok
[10:49] <SmokeyD> cool
[10:49] <SmokeyD> didn't know about that
[10:50] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: reminder we have new build of ff and nss and nspr in there so they will want to upgrade. should be fairly safe. me and a bunch of others are running it and all works good
[10:50] <SmokeyD> cool
[10:51] <SmokeyD> thanks a lot
[10:51] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:51] <SmokeyD> I will test it and report if I find anything
[10:51] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: firefox-trunk might be one you might want too
[10:51] <gnomefreak> its in there as well
[02:27] <SmokeyD> Hey people, am I correct to assume that thunderbird_2.0.0.0-0.mt1_i386.deb is not available on http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing because it is work in progress and thus TB2 is not available for testing yet for feisty?
[02:27] <SmokeyD> for amd64
[02:31] <Tomcat_> SmokeyD: feisty is in #ubuntu, and it has TB 1.5.
[02:32] <Tomcat_> SmokeyD: About third party repos, you better ask the maintainers of that repo... :-)
[02:33] <Hobbsee> !moztest
[02:33] <ubotu> The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[02:33] <Hobbsee> Tomcat_: ^
[02:33] <Hobbsee> Tomcat_: so they're kinda official
[02:34] <Hobbsee> Tomcat_: more to the point, the packages will move and become official
[02:36] <SmokeyD> yeah, I was testing them. But can't install them on amd64 since the thunderbird_2.0.0.0-0.mt1 package is not available for amd64 yet.
[02:37] <Hobbsee> you cant on feisty anyway, iirc.
[02:39] <Tomcat_> Hobbsee: Alright, thanks... so they will backport TB 2.0 into feisty? o_O
[02:39] <Hobbsee> perhaps
[05:40] <gortiz> is yet a way to make fglrx works?
[10:04] <Qaldune> hi there