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[02:31] <Jang1> hey, can anybody help me with beryl?
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=== troy_s slits wrist.
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[04:26] <[1] Ravenseye> hello all, good evening :)
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[04:28] <troy_s> hello
[04:28] <[2] Ravenseye> hi troy
[04:29] <[2] Ravenseye> so, how in the world did I get cloned....
[04:29] <[2] Ravenseye> well..that cleared that up nicely :)
[04:29] <[2] Ravenseye> Whats going on troy?
[04:30] <troy_s> uh
[04:31] <troy_s> in what regard?
[04:31] <[2] Ravenseye> in the general "Hi How ya doing?" regard...
[04:34] <[2] Ravenseye> just general chit chat really :) I didn't mean to bother ya if I did. I apologise if I did.
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[11:31] <Baby> hi :)
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[04:28] <Baby> hi, anyone awake? :)
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[05:05] <troy_s> Baby: what do you need?
[05:05] <Baby> artwork, of course... my I explaing what I'm myself into? :)
[05:08] <troy_s> Baby: Sorry?
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[05:10] <konam_> hi, someone knows how to create a .deb package of a theme?
[05:13] <troy_s> konam_: You are better off in MOTU
[05:13] <troy_s> konam_: The true debian package wizards lurk there...
[05:16] <Baby> I've packaged Ren'Py ( http://www.renpy.org/ ) some days ago, and I wanted to create a free set of characters, especially to be used in educationally-oriented games
[05:17] <troy_s> Baby: Interesting... well that would require someone with decent illustration skills or else it will end up looking like much else out there (rather ... not so good)
[05:18] <troy_s> Baby: Unfortunately, there aren't a terrific number of illustrators out there in this sort of crowd.  What styling are you looking for on the characters -- Anime?
[05:20] <Baby> yup, kinda anime
[05:20] <Baby> I want to be targetting kids around 12-16
[05:21] <Baby> yup i know i need someone who decent skills... it wouldn't come out so good if i did it myself
[05:25] <troy_s> Baby: Unfortunately, I have seen possibly 2-3 folks who are capable artists in terms of anything beyond manipulating gradients or copying real world objects...
[05:25] <troy_s> Baby: Anime is also a specific niche, perhaps try some of the other channels or browse deviant art for someone with a decent set of drawing skills related in particular to anime.
[05:27] <Baby> yup, that might be the last resort
[05:27] <troy_s> Baby: first resort
[05:27] <Baby> as artists are quite reluctant to allowing modification or unlimited usage of their art
[05:28] <troy_s> Baby: No... there are quite a few out there who would be open to say, cc by sa
[05:28] <troy_s> Baby: not many know of the licensing issues.
[05:28] <troy_s> Baby: those that generally don't want you muddling with their work probably don't have work worth muddling with anyways.
[05:28] <troy_s> Baby: as it is a self - security rooted ideal.
[05:28] <Baby> cc-by-sa would be nice, in fact i want to try to make  some cc-by-sa into debian and see what happens
[05:29] <troy_s> Baby: I think what might go a long way is to perhaps draft up a list of what would be 'ideal'
[05:29] <troy_s> Baby: As you aren't just asking for anime -- you are asking for a very action / verb neutral form of anime
[05:29] <troy_s> Baby: A girl with a fish in her hand isn't quite as much use as just the girl -- correct?
[05:30] <Baby> yup
[05:30] <Baby> right
[05:33] <Baby> i know it's quite difficult
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