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| akio | hello | 05:49 |
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| Keybuk | BenC: ping? | 03:18 |
| BenC | Keybuk: pong | 04:25 |
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| fabbione | hey BenC | 04:27 |
| BenC | hey | 04:27 |
| Keybuk | BenC: what would be the estimated timeline for getting http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=d9aca22cf443f5ed77d15a320abbab055ae4a976 into our kernels? | 04:28 |
| fabbione | BenC: i will pretty soon need 2 things from you.... pull from gfs2-nmw tree and export the 3 symbols i need for gfs1. | 04:29 |
| fabbione | BenC: but i will give you a ping when it's time. I need 2 more fixes to hit gfs2-nmw | 04:29 |
| BenC | fabbione: why isn't gfs2-nmw in 2.6.22? | 04:29 |
| BenC | I really wanted to avoid pulling in other trees, especially when there's time to push things upstream still | 04:30 |
| fabbione | BenC: not all of it yet. but i need it before otherwise new userland doesn't build/work | 04:30 |
| BenC | Keybuk: Should be next upload, hopefully on or before Friday | 04:30 |
| fabbione | BenC: i understand, but there is a change on dlm headers and gfs2 headers that i need to propagated to build the new userland.. otherwise i am blocked. | 04:31 |
| fabbione | BenC: i still want these 2 extra fixes in before you pull | 04:31 |
| BenC | Keybuk: We need to talk about bug #115616 | 04:31 |
| fabbione | BenC: also.. i saw kernel.u.c | 04:31 |
| BenC | fabbione: any assurance that those changes will be pushed upstream for 2.6.22 or are we stuck with the divergence in gutsy? | 04:32 |
| BenC | fabbione: you might have an account on kernel.u.c, try ssh to zinc.u.c | 04:32 |
| fabbione | BenC: they will be pushed upstream for sure.. when it's something i can't say right now, but i can ask | 04:32 |
| BenC | you can clone, and put whatever changes you want to push to me there | 04:32 |
| fabbione | BenC: i already have an account there | 04:32 |
| fabbione | how do i setup a tree that shows up in gitweb? | 04:32 |
| BenC | fabbione: are you in kernel_team group? | 04:33 |
| fabbione | i was planning to put gfs2/ocfs2 and gfs1 team | 04:33 |
| fabbione | i guess so... checking | 04:33 |
| BenC | if so, mkdir /srv/kernel.ubuntu.com/git/fabbione/ | 04:33 |
| BenC | then clone a tree, mv newtree/.git /srv/kernel.ubuntu.com/git/fabbione/fabbione-gutsy.git | 04:33 |
| fabbione | yes i am | 04:33 |
| Keybuk | BenC: ok :) | 04:34 |
| BenC | fabbione: you might want to look at 115616 too, since it involves evms, and I could use some feedback | 04:34 |
| fabbione | BenC: i saw that bug. i will need to look at whatchanges | 04:35 |
| BenC | The basic issue is described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/115616/comments/3 | 04:35 |
| fabbione | BenC: not sure i can get there by today | 04:35 |
| BenC | Mainly that I want to ditch the horrible bd_claim patch, but we need a way for users not to have broken systems that were based on the work around | 04:35 |
| Keybuk | BenC: ah, ok, it was a patch we dropped? | 04:36 |
| BenC | Keybuk: yeah, we've been carrying it around for a few releases, and it really is evil, and in actuality creates more room for breakage than it fixes | 04:36 |
| Keybuk | agree | 04:37 |
| Keybuk | the evms FAQ doesn't offer a better solution though | 04:37 |
| BenC | Actually, it does, which is to convert to evms totally, or ignore devices that evms isn't using | 04:37 |
| Mithrandir | fixing it is easy. Move partition discovery out of the kernel and just use devmapper devices. | 04:37 |
| Mithrandir | fsvo easy, that is. | 04:37 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: actually, that doesn't help, since evms would still fight over the devmapper devices | 04:38 |
| Keybuk | claim applies to the devmapper ones too | 04:38 |
| BenC | it still tries to lock the physical block dev, which is the problem | 04:38 |
| fabbione | BenC: ok.. i have the tree cloned as you say... now? | 04:38 |
| Keybuk | evms for all => well, if you're using evms, you're doomed anyway | 04:38 |
| BenC | fabbione: "mv newtree/.git /srv/kernel.ubuntu.com/git/fabbione/fabbione-gutsy.git" | 04:39 |
| Keybuk | we actually have udev set to prefer to *not* use the evms-supplied devices right now | 04:39 |
| fabbione | BenC: done that | 04:39 |
| === Mithrandir will not be very happy if somebody decides to break all his systems. | ||
| Keybuk | evms to exclude => it doesn't seem easy to do that either, since we don't know what to exclude or not? | 04:39 |
| BenC | fabbione: the main gitweb page is hourly generated...let me run the script | 04:39 |
| fabbione | BenC: ok | 04:40 |
| BenC | fabbione: shows up now | 04:40 |
| fabbione | oh neay | 04:40 |
| fabbione | neat | 04:40 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: make it not lock the whole device unless it contains an evms volume, and if so, see if it can just claim a partition? | 04:40 |
| fabbione | how do i setup the repo description? | 04:40 |
| BenC | fabbione: vi ubuntu-gutsy-gfs2.git/description | 04:40 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: do you know how to do that? | 04:40 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: a) get drunk, b) dive into the evms source code. | 04:41 |
| Mithrandir | it's a big and scary chunk of code. | 04:41 |
| Mithrandir | talking to upstream might be a good start, though | 04:41 |
| Keybuk | given that upstream haven't felt inclined to fix it yet, I doubt they'll be responsive | 04:41 |
| BenC | yeah, their FAQ is sort of "eh, deal with it" | 04:42 |
| Mithrandir | depends.. I've found them very good in the past when I've managed to catch their attention. | 04:42 |
| fabbione | BenC: ok.. all done.. can you regenerate the page? | 04:42 |
| fabbione | BenC: coolness it works | 04:42 |
| BenC | fabbione: weez cookin' now | 04:43 |
| === Keybuk never understood why evms creates all those devmapper'd copies anyway | ||
| Keybuk | I think we have two choices: | 04:47 |
| Keybuk | - apply the bd-claim patch | 04:47 |
| Keybuk | - stop supporting evms | 04:47 |
| BenC | Keybuk: what's the fallout from option 2? | 04:54 |
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| Keybuk | upsetting some users | 04:55 |
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| BenC | is there any way we can make option 2 work without asking users to hack a config file? | 05:03 |
| fabbione | BenC: let see if the git-send-pack works :) | 05:07 |
| fabbione | yeps | 05:07 |
| fabbione | gfs1 tree updated... | 05:07 |
| fabbione | BenC: the gfs2 author is in vacation this week. there are a set of patches in there that will be pushed to Linus (like the 2 i am waiting for), others will make .23 for sure | 05:09 |
| fabbione | BenC: if you really really feel unconfortable with that, i can start diverging userland, but it's just shifting one problem from one place to another | 05:10 |
| fabbione | BenC: also note that gfs2 tree touches "only" dlm and gfs2.. meaning none of the core kernel functionalities | 05:10 |
| fabbione | and not stuff people will use regularly | 05:11 |
| BenC | fabbione: that's good | 05:11 |
| fabbione | anyway. i will let you take a breath on it and ping you once the other fixes are in | 05:11 |
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| Keybuk | BenC: how do you mean? | 05:23 |
| BenC | Keybuk: I mean our work arounds include: 1) uninstall evms, 2) edit evms.conf to ignore the disks, 3) switch to evms completely | 05:24 |
| BenC | none of which seem easy to do with update-manager or something | 05:25 |
| Keybuk | the problem with 2) is that it's not obvious to me why evms doesn't just do that by default | 05:25 |
| Keybuk | (ignore volumes without evms metadata) | 05:26 |
| BenC | yeah, that does seem pretty broken | 05:26 |
| BenC | the people having the problem so far are not even using evms at all | 05:26 |
| BenC | it's just being stupid | 05:26 |
| Keybuk | yeah | 05:26 |
| Keybuk | we installed it by default once | 05:26 |
| Keybuk | yay us | 05:26 |
| BenC | which release was that, dapper? | 05:26 |
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| Keybuk | warty | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | +/** | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * activate_on_kernel_partition | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * The normal activation failed. If we're running on a 2.6 kernel, this could | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * be due to bd_claim, meaning the user may have a kernel partition mounted on | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * the same disk that we're trying to activate on. In this case, lets try to | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * activate the segment on top of the kernel partition instead of the disk. | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * The only things that change are the minor number for the target device and | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * the starting offset. | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * If this succeeds, we must indicate that this segment is active on top of a | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + * kernel partition, since it means certain other functionality cannot be used. | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | + **/ | 05:32 |
| BenC | sounds like it's supposed to work around things | 05:33 |
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| Keybuk | yeah, trying to work out exactly how | 05:34 |
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| bdmurray | what is the ti multimedia card reader bug number? | 07:21 |
| rtg | bdmurray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/53923 | 07:23 |
| bdmurray | rtg: thanks | 07:25 |
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| johanbr | I've never been bitten by the above bug, but I noticed SD cards no longer automount with the Gutsy kernel. They work fine after manually mounting, though. | 07:56 |
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| bdmurray | rtg: is dmidecode helpful with bugs like 116185? | 08:38 |
| BenC | bdmurray: /proc/acpi/dsdt is more helpful, but in reality, most bugs like that are BIOS bugs | 08:41 |
| BenC | dsdt will help find out | 08:41 |
| bdmurray | BenC: okay, thanks | 08:43 |
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