| gnomefreak | ok its fixed and built thanks to the motu guys | 12:42 |
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| gnomefreak | asac: everything from yesterday is done and i got evo done | 09:28 |
| gnomefreak | ok evo done and upgrading | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | evo doesnt start due to systems config doesnt match evos. there is a help and tells you to add a line to an .xml file but im wondering if i should have built it in. | 09:59 |
| gnomefreak | seems it does that on dapper with dappers version too :) | 10:03 |
| asac | gnomefreak: really | 10:05 |
| asac | great news | 10:05 |
| asac | oh ... evo doesn't start ... hmm | 10:05 |
| gnomefreak | yep but it still doesnt start but does it on dappers version | 10:05 |
| gnomefreak | its nothing i did :) | 10:05 |
| asac | gnomefreak: hmm ... so first issue: evo needs some system config tweaks | 10:06 |
| asac | do you have the exact message? | 10:06 |
| gnomefreak | asac: maybe not on a normal system | 10:06 |
| gnomefreak | i can | 10:06 |
| gnomefreak | Your system configuration does not match your Evolution configuration. | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | Click help for details | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | clicking help | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | What does "Your system configuration does not match your Evolution configuration" mean? | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | This means that the system configuration is not what it should be for the application to run well. To fix this, you must be root and edit the file /etc/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-config.xml by adding the line | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | <item>$PREFIX/lib/bonobo/servers</item> | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | in the <searchpath> section. After this, kill the process "bonobo-activation-server" and restart Evolution. | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | is on the page that help brings me to | 10:07 |
| asac | what is in that bonobo xml file? | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | dont know didnt look at it yet | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | i will give me a sec | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | 13 full lines :( | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | thats kind of tiny | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | <flood> | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | <?xml version="1.0"?> | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | <oafconfig> | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | <searchpath> <!-- Examples: --> <!-- <item>/opt/gnome2/lib/bonobo/servers</item> --> <!-- <item>/usr/local/gnome2/lib/bonobo/servers</item> --> <!-- <item>/usr/local/lib/bonobo/servers</item> --> <!-- <item>/opt/gnome2/bonobo-activation/lib/bonobo/servers</item> --> | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | </searchpath> | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | <endflood> | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | </oafconfig> | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | we need someone to test it on a full dapper system | 10:12 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you build the same version that is in dapper, right? e.g. not evol from feisty? | 10:12 |
| gnomefreak | right | 10:12 |
| asac | ok that should be fine | 10:12 |
| asac | howver i doubt that a full system will change a thing ... though it might be right | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | 2.6.1-0ubuntu7.1 | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | !info evolution dapper | 10:13 |
| asac | gnomefreak: does evol start in clean dapper + evo install (e.g. without respin) ? | 10:13 |
| ubotu | evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7.1 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | asac: no | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | same error | 10:13 |
| asac | gnomefreak: it doesn't start? | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | not in my chroot at all | 10:13 |
| asac | gnomefreak: can you ask on -desktop what to do in order to test evo in chroot ? | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 10:14 |
| asac | cool | 10:14 |
| gnomefreak | not promissing an answer though | 10:15 |
| gnomefreak | btw gaim-encryption needed its rules file edited to build | 10:19 |
| gnomefreak | simple edit i seemed to have been overlooking (real simple) | 10:20 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmm | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | installing bonobo to see what happens | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | maybe adding that to a depend would be helpful | 10:33 |
| gnomefreak | s/to a/as a | 10:33 |
| gnomefreak | in ~5 mnutes or so i will see if it helps than upgrade to our build | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | that didnt fix issue | 10:40 |
| gnomefreak | im willing to bet installing ubuntu-desktop will let evo run, there has to be a lib for -desktop that i dont have installed | 10:44 |
| gnomefreak | but part that bothers me id installing evo should grab all needed libs. | 10:45 |
| gnomefreak | well asac im not sure why it fails in chroot. | 10:53 |
| asac | sad | 10:53 |
| asac | :) | 10:53 |
| gnomefreak | you gonna tell me OO.o-core is next arnt you? | 10:54 |
| gnomefreak | btw firefox runs why are we backporting everything else? | 11:00 |
| asac | does any ooo thing depend on firefox, libnss or libnsprs? | 11:01 |
| asac | gnomefreak: because when we push ffox 2 in dapper ... everything else will likely crash :) | 11:01 |
| asac | as the old gets removed | 11:01 |
| gnomefreak | yes it does :( let me see what one it is | 11:02 |
| asac | every rdepends is candidate for respin | 11:04 |
| asac | lets say evo works :) | 11:04 |
| asac | just push it to your archive as it is | 11:04 |
| asac | and let the forum crowd test it | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | it is | 11:04 |
| asac | good | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | openoffice.org-core (hold) | 11:04 |
| asac | what was the issue with gaim-encryption | 11:04 |
| asac | openoffice.org-core? | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | openoffice.org-core (hold) | 11:04 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ok | 11:04 |
| asac | it depends on libnss3 and libnspr4 | 11:04 |
| asac | so openoffice needs respin | 11:04 |
| asac | but should be pretty simple | 11:04 |
| asac | just spin | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | not listed for ff | 11:04 |
| asac | with bumped version in changelog | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | just nss and nspr | 11:04 |
| asac | yes its for libnspr4 | 11:04 |
| asac | yes ... needs an update then (though it should be binary compatible) | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | ok will try. | 11:05 |
| asac | good luck :) | 11:05 |
| gnomefreak | do you see anything else that needs to be done first | 11:05 |
| asac | there is one file that takes 1 hour to build on a decent system | 11:05 |
| asac | your build might take 24 hours :) | 11:05 |
| asac | not first ... you could do something else :) | 11:05 |
| asac | but openoffice is really important ... so go ahead | 11:05 |
| gnomefreak | asac: gaim-* in the rules file nss and nspr pointed to usr/..../mozilla/.. and should have been firefox | 11:06 |
| asac | really? | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | ok will spin it | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | yeah | 11:06 |
| asac | does gaim-encryption actually work? | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | now it does | 11:06 |
| asac | i mean ... before the respin | 11:06 |
| asac | gnomefreak: can you maintaine a patch for that? | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | oh i dont know i assumed so | 11:06 |
| asac | e.g. like what i did for epiphany | 11:06 |
| asac | so we have all patches we need when we are done with that? | 11:07 |
| asac | you can do so by: | 11:07 |
| asac | cp debian/rules debian/rules.orig | 11:07 |
| asac | then modify debian/rules | 11:07 |
| gnomefreak | ok i will try what to name it? | 11:07 |
| asac | then run diff -u gaim-encryp.../debian/rules.orig gaim-en.../debian/rules > /tmp/gaim-dapper-ffox2.patch | 11:07 |
| asac | gaim-encryption-dapper-ffox2.patch | 11:08 |
| gnomefreak | can i just use diff -u debian/riles? | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | or do i need to be out further? | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | k patch is made | 11:14 |
| gnomefreak | grabbing source for o.o-core | 11:19 |
| gnomefreak | oo.o-core even | 11:19 |
| asac | gnomefreak: please do the diff from top-level-dir/.. - one more up | 11:35 |
| gnomefreak | hell just grabbing the source is 2+ hours | 11:35 |
| asac | right :) | 11:35 |
| gnomefreak | from outside the unpacked source dir? | 11:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: maybe you should take care of everything else ... and leave me ... or some volunteer with a speedy system the ooo build | 11:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: is ooo-core a separate source package= | 11:37 |
| asac | ? | 11:37 |
| asac | or is it all-in-one-wonder tarball for all openoffice? | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | doesnt seem to be | 11:37 |
| asac | ok ... so you are pulling full oo? | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main openoffice.org 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.3 (dsc) [3264B] | 11:37 |
| asac | ok with you if you build everything else? | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | looks like it | 11:37 |
| asac | can people already get the things from dapper repo? | 11:38 |
| asac | e.g. if i ask someone on motu to do the ooo respin? | 11:38 |
| gnomefreak | thats fine give me a list or do you want everything built? we are runnning low on things afaict | 11:38 |
| asac | gnomefreak: thats good news | 11:38 |
| asac | first take care that every rdepends on libnss3 and libnspr4 is respun | 11:38 |
| asac | then go to firefox | 11:38 |
| asac | (exclude ooo from it of course) | 11:39 |
| gnomefreak | i can do about 5 or so a day | 11:39 |
| gnomefreak | k order shouldnt be an issue? | 11:39 |
| asac | you will probably notice | 11:39 |
| asac | just try to build :) | 11:39 |
| gnomefreak | gaim-encryption-2.38 is the dir you want me in? | 11:39 |
| asac | if installing the build-deps brings old firefox/libnss somehow | 11:39 |
| asac | you probably need something else first | 11:39 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok | 11:39 |
| asac | but most should be direct depends | 11:39 |
| asac | gnomefreak: on top of that dir | 11:40 |
| asac | i want gaim-encryption directory to be in diff path | 11:40 |
| gnomefreak | oh ok wher ethe tar and diff is | 11:40 |
| asac | the idea is that you can apply patches with -p1 if you are *in* the top-level dir | 11:40 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok | 11:40 |
| asac | gnomefreak: right | 11:40 |
| gnomefreak | ok lets see wha tit holds now | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | make: Nothing to be done for `gaim-encryption-2.38/debian/rules'. | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | that cant be good | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | seems from that dir it cant be done | 11:43 |
| gnomefreak | gaim-encryption-2.38/debian/rules.orig gaim-encryption-2.38/debian/rules > ~/gaim-encryption-dapper-ffox2.patch | 11:43 |
| gnomefreak | that is the command | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | oh crap | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | nvm | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | ok its done | 11:45 |
| gnomefreak | helps if you use the diff -u command | 11:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you have to start with unmodified gaim-e package | 11:46 |
| asac | the copy the rules to rules.orig | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | already did that | 11:46 |
| asac | ah :) | 11:46 |
| asac | cool | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | i diffed .orig against rules | 11:46 |
| asac | you can push it somewhere so i can push the patch to my transition dir on people.ubuntu.com | 11:46 |
| asac | ? | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | yes i can :) | 11:47 |
| asac | somewhere not called "pastebin" please :) | 11:47 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 11:47 |
| asac | hehe | 11:47 |
| gnomefreak | my site will have it | 11:47 |
| asac | damn motu crowed appears to be not that tempted to help on ooo respin | 11:48 |
| asac | no answer so far :) | 11:48 |
| gnomefreak | http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/gaim-encryption-dapper-ffox2.patch | 11:48 |
| gnomefreak | you can wget from there ;) | 11:48 |
| asac | gnomefreak: well done | 11:48 |
| gnomefreak | libcamel1.2-8 needs to be built? | 11:49 |
| asac | gnomefreak: are the headers nowhere else? | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | headers? | 11:49 |
| asac | if its in rdepends ... then yes | 11:49 |
| asac | nevermind | 11:49 |
| asac | i will look | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | k | 11:49 |
| asac | all is ok | 11:49 |
| asac | they are really in /usr/include/firefox/ | 11:49 |
| asac | ok | 11:49 |
| asac | patch accepted | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | ty ;) | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | i changed it on my version by hand | 11:50 |
| gnomefreak | the one in my repo | 11:50 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/dapper-ffox2-transition/ | 11:50 |
| asac | if the patch applies cleanly then its fine | 11:51 |
| asac | i don't bother that the version in your repo was done by hand | 11:51 |
| gnomefreak | ok if an rdepend is in nss but not nspr no need to build or we should build everything anyway | 11:51 |
| gnomefreak | libnss3 libnspr4 | 11:51 |
| gnomefreak | eh cant hurt to build everything they all seem small other than oo.o | 11:52 |
| gnomefreak | dont tell me you thought someone would help build that. its a beast of an app ;) | 11:53 |
| asac | we need to build everything that is remotely linked to anything libnss3 and libnspr4 | 11:59 |
| asac | etc. | 11:59 |
| gnomefreak | i thought so | 11:59 |
| asac | i will find someone for ooo build | 12:00 |
| gnomefreak | if not ill do it overnight one night | 12:00 |
| gnomefreak | crap | 12:32 |
| gnomefreak | more evo crap | 12:32 |
| asac | what kind of crap is it? | 12:52 |
| gnomefreak | evolution-data-server-1.6.1 | 12:55 |
| gnomefreak | is named libcamel1.2-8 in rdepends | 12:55 |
| gnomefreak | i may have bad memory :( | 12:56 |
| asac | if its squeezed out of the data source source | 01:01 |
| asac | then yes | 01:01 |
| asac | otherwise ... i don't know | 01:01 |
| asac | you will figure out | 01:01 |
| asac | :) | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | i will :) | 01:02 |
| gnomefreak | its already building | 01:02 |
| gnomefreak | im gonna reboot when its done. i keep getting a system beep for no reason and praying its not memory | 01:03 |
| asac | sounds bad | 01:06 |
| asac | maybe your hard-disk is dying? | 01:06 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ? | 01:06 |
| gnomefreak | i dont know its a single beep every so often maybe 5 minutes apart | 01:06 |
| gnomefreak | maybe 10 builds without clear mem can cause that on low mem system? | 01:11 |
| gnomefreak | Mem: 255608k total, 251448k used, | 01:12 |
| gnomefreak | very possible let me reboot | 01:12 |
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| gnomefreak | still doing it :( | 01:17 |
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| SmokeyD | hey people. The thunderbird_2.0.0.0-0.mt1 for amd64 is missing in the mozilla preview archive. That way I can't install TB 2.0 form the preview archive on amd64 | 02:41 |
| SmokeyD | should I report it as a bug or is it still work in progress | 02:41 |
| SmokeyD | I am using feisty | 02:41 |
| asac | SmokeyD: ok | 02:49 |
| asac | i will build one | 02:49 |
| SmokeyD | thanks | 02:49 |
| asac | just keep the preview archive line ... there should be a package soon | 02:49 |
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| asac | hi Riddell ... thanks! | 03:31 |
| asac | Riddell: just one more note ahead ... the idea is to revive the firefox-kde-support spec ... and then figure out how we can do this in a way that is suitable for upstream inclusion ;) | 03:32 |
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| asac | Admiral_Chicago: do we have a list of kde issues for firefox? | 04:55 |
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| asac | ups | 04:56 |
| asac | that was fast :) | 04:56 |
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| asac | Admiral_Chicago: ping? you having connectivity issues? | 04:57 |
| Admiral_Chicago | asac: yes. my internet connection at home likes to drop out on my linux machines | 04:57 |
| asac | oh ... received my question? | 04:57 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i worked it our with a router, but the router's settings got hosed and it refuses to set itself back up, :\ | 04:58 |
| Admiral_Chicago | no, which question was that? | 04:58 |
| asac | Admiral_Chicago: you think you can help me to come up with a list of problems of firefox in kde? | 04:58 |
| asac | if i search the bugs for kde ... i get a few results ... but they are not well sorted out ... and not always kde related | 04:59 |
| Admiral_Chicago | of course. I haven't seen too many, but i'll try check it out | 04:59 |
| asac | Admiral_Chicago: e.g. the url protocol handler ... its probably not dealt with correctly for kde | 04:59 |
| Admiral_Chicago | asac: let me go through those, but give me 20 minutes to grab breakfast and commit some stuff | 05:00 |
| asac | sure | 05:00 |
| Admiral_Chicago | got a link to that bug | 05:00 |
| asac | following points out of my head (we should check them and ensure that we have bugs open for them) | 05:00 |
| asac | 1. url handler | 05:00 |
| asac | 2. background image | 05:00 |
| asac | 3. MIME handling ... are the right applications suggested if you open some file? | 05:01 |
| asac | 4. virtual file system ... is there such a thing like gnome-vfs that lets you access remote network filesystems etc. | 05:01 |
| asac | 5. theming ... does the gtk-qt engine apply kde themes) (i hope so ... but just want to ensure that this is actualyl the case) | 05:02 |
| asac | 6. there is a bug about the startup-notification ... e.g. that its not properly recognized ... is this really the case? | 05:04 |
| asac | 7. what bout font? | 05:05 |
| Riddell | 3) should wait for everyone to use xdg mime standard. kde 4 does, I think gnome does, no idea about firefox | 05:07 |
| Riddell | 4) yes, kioslaves, what does firefox need that for? | 05:08 |
| Riddell | 5) gtk-qt does apply yes (to kubuntu users), although there's some firefox fix for it that I think no longer works | 05:08 |
| Riddell | fonts seem to work fine | 05:09 |
| Riddell | startup notification works fine for me | 05:09 |
| Admiral_Chicago | here is the thing, when I get a ogg theora from say, lugradio, it offers to open it with ogg123 | 05:10 |
| Admiral_Chicago | maybe its because I don't have default apps, i've added xubuntu-desktop etc | 05:10 |
| Admiral_Chicago | by default, Fx should use amarok afaik | 05:10 |
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| Riddell | amarok will use the KDE 3 mimetype system, which firefox won't use | 05:13 |
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| asac | Riddell: firefox/mozilla apps have gnome-vfs support ... i remember voices asking for something similar on kde | 05:17 |
| Riddell | asac: but to do what? | 05:18 |
| asac | open, save, navigate files? | 05:18 |
| Riddell | right | 05:18 |
| asac | e.g. if you want to save an image on a samba share | 05:18 |
| Riddell | although presumably it should work fine running from KDE as well | 05:19 |
| asac | problem is that we pull in loads of gnome libs | 05:20 |
| Admiral_Chicago | so we would have to do the same with fx correct? | 05:22 |
| Riddell | getting it to dynamically load kioslaves libs or gnome-vfs libs on demand as appropriate would be pretty hard to do | 05:22 |
| asac | Riddell: mozilla has a component system ... we should be able to do that | 05:22 |
| asac | Riddell: question is ... how do we detect if kde is actually running | 05:24 |
| asac | ... which is kind of a fundamental question we have to solve before we can do anything properly :) | 05:24 |
| asac | Riddell: any idea how we can test if the current X display is kdeish? | 05:25 |
| Riddell | this is a common problem and I've yet to see a good answer | 05:25 |
| asac | yes ... its not really kde only :) | 05:26 |
| Riddell | apport does it by testing if ksmserver is running | 05:27 |
| Riddell | it's really something that xdg-utils should solve | 05:27 |
| asac | does apport test if ksmserver is serving current display ... or in general? | 05:27 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure, I can't find the code just now | 05:28 |
| asac | Riddell: http://librarian.launchpad.net/6718554/KDEBackground.diff | 05:30 |
| asac | that code tries to test for running kde :) | 05:30 |
| asac | its from linspire | 05:30 |
| Riddell | asac: /usr/bin/ubuntu-bug | 05:31 |
| Riddell | doesn't seem to care for machines running multiple sessions | 05:31 |
| asac | can you look at the diff? they do some wierd thing with color parsing in .kdesktoprc ... any idea what's checked by that? | 05:34 |
| asac | Riddell: ^^ | 05:36 |
| Riddell | I don't know what it's doing | 05:36 |
| Riddell | it's reading .kde/share/config/kdesktoprc for the Color1 key | 05:37 |
| Riddell | and seems to think if it finds it that makes us a KDE desktop | 05:37 |
| Riddell | which would be crazy | 05:37 |
| asac | yeah ... i saw that ... but what do they get from that :) | 05:37 |
| asac | good to have someone confirm that it makes no sense ... at least not obviously | 05:38 |
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| Riddell | this is a mozilla plugin to set the desktop background right? | 05:39 |
| Riddell | I think it's syncing between KDE and gnome background settings | 05:39 |
| Riddell | doesn't seem to be what we're after | 05:40 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | still having connection issues... | 05:41 |
| asac | Riddell: it allows you to set the kde background if you click on the "use image as background" in firefox ... i don't think it syncs anything | 05:42 |
| asac | its just a hack that copies the downloaded file somewhere and sets it as kde background | 05:42 |
| asac | i am just interested in the "isKDEDesktop" detection code | 05:43 |
| Riddell | right | 05:43 |
| asac | maybe its something magic and Color1 is set at the beginning of a kde session or something .) | 05:43 |
| Riddell | not for me it isn't | 05:43 |
| Riddell | possibly linspire does something magic but I doubt it | 05:43 |
| asac | ok ... i will ask them for clarification | 05:44 |
| asac | Riddell: its bug 90851 | 05:45 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 90851 in firefox "Firefox does not set KDE wallpaper" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90851 | 05:45 |
| asac | Jim Massey is the linspire guy that works with us somehow | 05:45 |
| Riddell | works for canonical? | 05:47 |
| Riddell | or a linspire guy who tries to talk to ubuntu as their upstream? | 05:47 |
| Riddell | seems like a good bug to get fixed, not it wants to change Wallpaper= not Color1= | 05:48 |
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| asac | Riddell: he works for linspire ... its an efford to increase cooporation with downstream (from our side) | 05:51 |
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| FreddyM | crap network...okay i promise one day i'll stay online for longer than 10 minutes | 06:20 |
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| Admiral_Chicago_ | okay I have the latest clue files for firefox. I see we have added some things but for the most part they look like they need some love | 07:06 |
| Admiral_Chicago_ | I'm leaving comments now for the people interested in mentoring | 07:07 |
| Admiral_Chicago_ | asac: do you want to be CC'ed on the email for Bughelper? | 07:16 |
| asac | i think i get them? i am in the team? | 07:25 |
| asac | otherwise yes | 07:25 |
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| Admiral_Chicago1 | did you get my message asac? my connection dropped/ | 07:33 |
| Admiral_Chicago1 | also, I seem to have found the culprit... | 07:33 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | okay internet works now | 10:08 |
| Admiral_Chicago | IPv6 was the culprit | 10:08 |
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