[12:01] <Silent_G> hello, somebody can tell me how to set the Cflags on ubuntu?
[12:01] <dyrne> scorch: in xubuntu youd 'xscreensaver-demo' but i think ubuntu is using gnome screensaver now
[12:01] <hendaus> Pelo:  yes,but when i open irc failed and also konqueror
[12:01] <PepperBob> Silent_G: afaik just create a CFLAGS env var
[12:01] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: other than being able to access the data on the LAN how will I know if I'm connected to the wireless or the LAN?
[12:01] <Silent_G> how ?
[12:01] <scorch> dyrne: it's not a screen saver it's just a black screen
[12:01] <Silent_G> its not for me its for a friend
[12:01] <PepperBob> export CFLAGS = bla
[12:01] <Silent_G> uh
[12:01] <Silent_G> ok
[12:02] <Silent_G> ;ole
[12:02] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: Ahh :) well use a gnome desklet for that :D
[12:02] <Pelo> hendaus,  it's not taht I donT' want to help you but I do not know where stuff is in kubuntu , so no matter what yor problem is I am seriously limited in my capacity to help ,  you need someone familiar with kubuntu to help you ,  specialy because you are a newbie
[12:02] <dyrne> scorch: yeah but the settings are in xscreensaver. though like I said im not sure of gnome
[12:02] <PepperBob> Silent_G: but it might be overwritten by the makefile
[12:02] <LjL> Silent_G: if you mean rebuilding everything using different gcc flags - this is not gentoo.
[12:02] <Silent_G> like export CFLAGS=k8 ?
[12:02] <Silent_G> lol
[12:02] <generalj> anyone know much about the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15 package? Like should I have generic and lowlatency installed?
[12:02] <atrus> scorch: they're in the power management preferences.
[12:02] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: would you mind recommending a good one that's fairly easy to configure?
[12:02] <Pelo> hendaus, just click the install and let it install it self,  never mind connecting to the internet while you are doiing it
[12:02] <Silent_G> so you cant use what CFlags you want on ubuntu ? uh sry for that cause i use gentoo
[12:02] <tashe> hjk
[12:02] <tashe> \\
[12:03] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: they are all easy to configure but i have no idea which one.. i use fluxbox mostly just google desklet + ubunt
[12:03] <scorch> atrus: what's that called? I'm using Ion3, so I can't access it through the menu as one would usually do
[12:03] <PepperBob> Silent_G: gcc will respect them but they will be overwritten by running configure imho
[12:03] <Slart> is there a way to synchronize the thunderbird address  book with the evolution address book? I want to use the "look up name" panel toy thingy.. but all my addresses are in thunderbird
[12:03] <Silent_G> uh ok
[12:03] <atrus> scorch: oh. uhm. if you're not running a screensaver at all it might be the native X stuff.
[12:03] <LjL> Silent_G, packages on Ubuntu come *precompiled*. binary. executable. you don't normally download source and build it. it's possible, and there are automated tools to do it, but if you want to do that sort of thing for *every* or almost every package on the system, then just go use Gentoo, much better off
[12:03] <[11touche] > .
[12:03] <Silent_G> so there is no file like make.conf where you can set the cflags?
[12:03] <hendaus> Pelo: ok, after i make restart it appears a black screen that say umount is busy and cannot be found
[12:03] <atrus> scorch: man xset
[12:04] <Pelo> hendaus, I realy donT, know what that is
[12:04] <LjL> !info apt-build > Silent_G
[12:04] <Silent_G> yes i use gentoo LjL but my friend just installed ubuntu now and im helping him and i tought if ubuntu used cflags too
[12:04] <Silent_G> hehe
[12:04] <LjL> !info apt-src > Silent_G
[12:04] <atrus> scorch: "dpms" and "s" settings for power management and screensaver respectively
[12:05] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: thanks I'll look into that.
[12:05] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: np
[12:05] <hendaus> Pelo:  ok thanx
[12:05] <scorch> atrus: think I fixed it. Was in xscreensaver as dyrne said. :/
[12:06] <Silent_G> thankz :P
[12:06] <LjL> Silent_G, "cflags" are simply options to the GCC compiler. as such, Ubuntu with GCC installed (like any other distribution) can certainly use them. however, the point is that you normally just *don't compile packages*, in Ubuntu
[12:06] <daniel-eads> Hello, I was in here last night needing help with a cursor constantly moving to a corner of the screen with an ATI Raedon Mobility...  was able to fix this in Dapper by changing the colour depth from 24 to 16 but this isn't working in Feisty
[12:06] <atrus> scorch: cool. keep xset in mind if it fails though, as X might kick in its screen-blanker/power settings anyways.
[12:06] <Pelo> does  restarting x kill my uptime ?
[12:06] <PepperBob> Pelo: no
[12:06] <stevefisher> thank you, thank you, thank you, i can see the files, now to get them shared on the network
[12:07] <Pelo> brb
[12:07] <scorch> atrus: yeah, will do. Thanks. :)
[12:07] <LjL> !info pentium-builder > Silent_G
[12:07] <jovans> is it possible to change the login background colour?
[12:07] <jovans> i mean to chosse a background picture
[12:07] <jovans> jpg or png
[12:07] <OuZo> is there a command line weather report tool? thanks
[12:08] <scorch> shouldn't it be better to hide joins/parts in this channel?
[12:08] <heroin> scorch: i agree
[12:08] <daniel-eads> jovans: a lot of people have uploaded downloadable themes to deviantart for gnome login
[12:08] <LjL> Silent_G: keep in mind that all these "solutions" i'm giving you are... well, hacks, to be a little extreme. they're not part of Ubuntu's standard package management framework. they may work, they may work with some troubles, they may break stuff.
[12:08] <tashe> i am using XChat on ubuntu, and i cant see the users that are online on the channel.Can somebody help me?
[12:08] <jovans> not the gdm theme itselfs
[12:08] <heroin> tashe: hehe use irssi
[12:08] <tashe> whats that?
[12:08] <jovans> i amean the background when i am loggin into the desktop
[12:08] <Silent_G> uhm LjL
[12:08] <Silent_G> listen one thing
[12:09] <Silent_G> so when my friend wants to install something
[12:09] <heroin> jovans: no clue google?
[12:09] <Silent_G> like Xchat
[12:09] <Silent_G> he downloads the package
[12:09] <Silent_G> and use apt-get Xchat install
[12:09] <Silent_G> for example?
[12:09] <LjL> Silent_G: no, he types "sudo apt-get install xchat", or uses Synaptic
[12:09] <daniel-eads> jovans: right, you can download JUST logon screens
[12:09] <Silent_G> and ubuntu will get it from internet?
[12:09] <LjL> Silent_G: no, he doesn't have to manually download anything.
[12:09] <heroin> Silent_G: no// sudo apt-get isntall Xchat
[12:09] <heroin> Silent_G: thats i..
[12:09] <Silent_G> ok
[12:09] <LjL> heroin: xchat even
[12:09] <Silent_G> thanks
[12:09] <Silent_G> :P
[12:09] <tashe> please help
[12:09] <Administrator___> hi, i'm having trouble with DHCPNAK messages under feisty
[12:10] <nickrud> tashe, on the right of the window, you should see some dots halfway up: grab them with the mouse and pull left
[12:10] <daniel-eads> jovans: oh, hmm....  i think that was in an options menu somewhere, i know what you're saying now
[12:10] <LjL> Silent_G: yes, as long as he's got the right repositories enabled. xchat happens to be in Universe. your friend should probably make sure he's got all of Main, Restricted, Universe and Multiverse enabled. the first two are enabled by default.
[12:10] <LjL> !repositories > Silent_G    (Silent_G, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:10] <tashe> COOL
[12:10] <tashe> elementary stuff
[12:10] <Silent_G> ok :P
[12:10] <tashe> thanks
[12:11] <nickrud> tashe, you aren't the first caught by that ;)
[12:11] <Pelo> is there a way to force nice to apply to the dependencies of an app , like  nice frostwire -19 applying to the java process that is started ?
[12:11] <stevefisher> oh my god, i have shared network folders, i can sleep a happy man
[12:11] <LjL> Silent_G: of course, we mentioned apt-get now, but he can certainly also use the Synaptic graphical interface if he prefers. they're equivalent.
[12:11] <heroin> Silent_G: i agree w. LjL
[12:12] <Administrator___> hi, i'm having trouble with DHCPNAK messages under feisty that never showed up under edgy. Can anyone help?
[12:12] <LjL> Pelo: from man setpriority, "A child created by fork(2) inherits its parent's nice value."
[12:12] <sergioA> hi
[12:13] <Silent_G> anthrax@Underground:~$ sudo apt-get install amsn
[12:13] <Silent_G> Password:
[12:13] <sergioA> I'm trying and trying to find someone to help me
[12:13] <Silent_G> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:13] <Silent_G> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:13] <Silent_G> anthrax@Underground:~$
[12:13] <Silent_G> whats that?
[12:13] <Silent_G> :/
[12:13] <heroin> Silent_G: u have TWO apt-get things open.. u can only install 1 thing at a time
[12:13] <nickrud> Silent_G, got synaptic open?
[12:13] <sergioA> about a sound problem with ubuntu edgy
[12:13] <LjL> Silent_G: well, is another process using it? i.e. is there Synaptic open, or another instance of apt-get, or anything that uses the APT system?
[12:13] <LjL> !paste > Silent_G    (Silent_G, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:13] <Pelo> LjL, hmmm, how about grand-children ? because the sh process seem to be at 19 but java is only 10
[12:13] <sergioA> and the alsamixer its all unmuted
[12:14] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: I just got fluxbox from synaptic... i found fluxbox in /usr/bin and clicked it but nothing happened. what am I missing?
[12:14] <daniel-eads> sergioA: i also had a ton of problems with ALSA in edgy, upgrading to feisty fixed all of them if that's a feasable solution for you
[12:14] <LjL> Pelo, as long as they're all just forked... maybe they're started in some more awkward way. weird, though.
[12:14] <cycom> Any idea why whenever I run VMWare Server I get rtc errors?
[12:14] <generalj> anyone know a good program to burn iso to a dvd?
[12:14] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: Ohh dude u dont need fluxbox.. u need DESKLETS like little plugins ontop of the desktop
[12:14] <cycom> I've heard rumblings that rtc stuff is disabled in the 64 bit kernel...
[12:14] <dyrne> swatF1RESTORM: logout and click on 'sessions' button then choose flux and login
[12:14] <Prognatus> Q: why does a cp command put all files in the Lost+Found on the destination partition?
[12:15] <Pelo> LjL,  I can't find  man setpriority in my system ? do I need to install something ?
[12:15] <ward__> anyone got ideas to fix this error? i got it while trying to "make" a program i want to install
[12:15] <LjL> Pelo: but wait, if the "main" program is really just a shell script, why not just modify it and add a "nice -n 19" before the concerned commands?
[12:15] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: fluxbox is a advanced user window manager.. stick w. gnome for now
[12:15] <ward__> treeview_moc.cpp:11:26: error: qapplication.h: No such file or directory
[12:15] <ward__> treeview_moc.cpp:13:34: error: private/qucomextra_p.h: No such file or directory
[12:15] <LjL> Pelo: manpages-dev
[12:15] <LjL> ward__: do you have libqt3-dev installed?
[12:15] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: u want this >> http://www.gdesklets.org/
[12:16] <dyrne> swatF1RESTORM: be a man and install twm :)
[12:16] <ward__> LjL, its supposed to be a program that uses QT4, but i'll try to make sure
[12:16] <Pelo> LjL, I don't actualy know if I can edit frostwire,  I'd have to check
[12:16] <swatF1RESTORM> dyrne: what's that?
[12:16] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: dont install twm.. just go to http://www.gdesklets.org/ :P
[12:16] <LjL> ward__: well then libqt4-dev
[12:16] <sergioA> No one have problem with the sound???!
[12:16] <dyrne> swatF1RESTORM: another window manager. ignore me :)
[12:16] <zbrown> it would seem not.
[12:16] <heroin> sergioA:  nope :D
[12:16] <Pelo> !sound | sergioA
[12:16] <ubotu> sergioA: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:16] <LjL> Pelo: i don't know, i just inferred it might be a shell script since you talked about "sh process"
[12:16] <ward__> LjL, was installed when i got the error
[12:17] <swatF1RESTORM> dyrne: lol. conisder yourself ignored (until I need your help again :-p)
[12:17] <generalj> So does anyone know a good program to use to burn a iso to dvd?
[12:17] <Prognatus> cp -a /* /media/linux/*  <--- puts everything in Lost+Found on /media/linux. Why?
[12:17] <zbrown> generalj: the built in one in gnome...
[12:17] <sergioA> Pelo: You have already given me that links and nothing change the situacion
[12:17] <sergioA> situation
[12:17] <dyrne> generalj: well.. if you want bells and whistles you can install k3b its sort of like nero
[12:17] <ward__> generalj, the one that's standard in ubuntu :p
[12:18] <[D] avidoffMentho> -.-
[12:18] <Pelo> LjL, I just meant that there is no acualy frostwire process in the system monitor , it shows a bash and a sh  as dependendies and I can see the frostwire command line when I display that column , which is what I meant by sh
[12:18] <ward__> dyrne, generalj , there's also a free nero beta for linux :-)
[12:18] <Pelo> sergioA,  check for your hardware model in the forum
[12:18] <generalj> ward__, well I am sorta new to linux so what is standard with ubuntu ? a command line one?
[12:18] <ward__> and it seemed to work ok
[12:18] <LjL> Pelo, not clear, please just pastebin your "ps aux"
[12:18] <ward__> generalj, put an empty cd in your recorder
[12:18] <ward__> or dvd
[12:18] <ward__> and see the iwndow that pops up
[12:18] <Possum> anyone know how to play with usplash? When running dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` I get a line that says this which I'm concerned about: Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
[12:19] <ward__> generalj, and i'm new too :-)
[12:19] <sergioA> what the hell, is very obvious that I'm here because I've already seen the forums
[12:19] <amr> is there difference between logon screen resolution and account resolution ?
[12:19] <LjL> ward__: well, qapplication.h *is* included in libqt4-dev, so i assume that cpp file is looking for it in the wrong place (or the 'configure' pointed to the wrong place)
[12:19] <juice`> when i try to watch movies using vlc or totem or xine, i clearly see pixels when i select fullscreen. output goes on TV, but it was not like that on windows. any idea what could be the reason ?
[12:19] <LjL> amr: not by default
[12:19] <nickrud> amr, there can be ...
[12:19] <generalj> ward__,  so it does pop a window up but I see no option to burn iso to dvd. I dont want to jsut burn the file to dvd i want it to extract the iso and then burn it on
[12:20] <ward__> generalj, just a sec
[12:20] <LjL> !usplash > Possum    (Possum, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:20] <ward__> there is an option trough that way
[12:20] <ward__> let me see how i did iit
[12:20] <amr> ok i changed resolution for my account but the logon resolution is still the old value howa can i change it ?
[12:20] <dyrne> juice`: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf  does it say vesa or i810 or nvidia or what
[12:20] <zbrown> generalj: right click the application, click open with CD/DVD creator
[12:20] <Pelo> LjL,   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21904/
[12:20] <nickrud> !fixres > amr
[12:21] <juice`> dyrne: i use fglrx, but i can grep of course
[12:21] <zbrown> generalj: it will know if its DVD or CD, and click "write"
[12:21] <dyrne> juice`: nm
[12:21] <Prognatus> What is the correct cp command for copying everything in my current partition to another partition, while retaining all permissions etc.
[12:21] <munzir> Hi, I am facing a problem similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/75725 and the first comment from Daniel is "Please use alsa-driver 1.0.14rc1." but I cannot find this version in Feisty
[12:21] <nickrud> amr you should have got a pm with a direction at some instructions
[12:21] <LjL> Prognatus: the "-a" option is a start
[12:21] <Prognatus> Ljl, tried it...
[12:21] <Possum> LjL, thanks, nothing I found on google told me to do the update-initramfs command >.<
[12:21] <dyrne> juice`: sorry i fear the ati
[12:21] <Pelo> LjL,  the java in that one is set to 19 because I changed it manualy
[12:21] <juice`> dyrne: :*
[12:21] <LjL> Possum: it's not normally required
[12:21] <Possum> Lemme try rebooting...
[12:21] <juice`> i meant :(
[12:21] <zbrown> nickrud: grammar*
[12:21] <Prognatus> LjL, tried it...
[12:21] <ward__> generalj, i can't find an empty disk lol
[12:21] <nickrud> zbrown, ;)
[12:22] <Possum> LjL, weird... I'll try rebooting see if it worked
[12:22] <generalj> zbrown, this will write an iso as it should and not jsut put the iso itself on the disc? i mean it will extract the iso and then burn it?
[12:22] <ward__> generalj, but i'm VERY sure its implemented
[12:22] <zbrown> generalj: yes.
[12:22] <ward__> i burned ISO's that way
[12:22] <tnkami1> Q: need help with Ubuntu installation on my second partition
[12:22] <juice`> dyrne: but that could be the drivers fault? if so i could try other
[12:22] <Prognatus> LjL, all files goes into Lost+Found
[12:22] <zbrown> generalj: i did it 3 times this morning.
[12:22] <generalj> ward__,  zbrown had a good tip, right click on the file you want to burn and select open with cd.dvd burner
[12:22] <dyrne> juice`: well i guess you could replace with vesa and test. im not sure
[12:22] <LjL> Pelo: eek it's all cut, i can't read anything :P try ps aux | cat
[12:22] <ward__> LjL, QT4 dev package was allready installed when i got the error
[12:22] <generalj> zbrown, ok i will test it now
[12:22] <ward__> generalj, yeah thats how i did it :-)
[12:23] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: can you help me rename my network devices? i.e. wireless = wlan0 and wired = eth0 ?
[12:23] <amicrawler> it there a power mangement  control for ubuntu ?
[12:23] <Slart> amicrawler: in system, preferences
[12:23] <ward__> amicrawler, yes
[12:23] <vikzx86> Does anyone here use xmms-winamp plug in?
[12:23] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: i dont know how :) but just know which is which :D
[12:23] <dyrne> swatF1RESTORM: sudo nano /etc/iftab
[12:23] <amicrawler> my computer goes to sleep a dont not wake up after 4 hrs
[12:24] <LjL> ward__: i got that, i'm saying the makefile or configure is probably broken. try "grep -R qapplication.h" in the source directory, and change any relevant files to point to the right filepath (use dpkg -L libqt4-dev | grep qapplication to find it out)
[12:24] <Prognatus> LjL, this is the command I used: cp -a /* /media/linux/*  ...and everything got in Lost+Found.
[12:24] <Pelo> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21905/
[12:24] <Nergar> whats the default port of vnc?
[12:24] <ward__> LjL, that is chinese to me
[12:24] <amicrawler> is that in gnome or kde i use  kde
[12:24] <dyrne> swatF1RESTORM: but wait more would be involved than that youd have to edit /etc/network/interfaces too unless the gui configs it for you
[12:24] <ward__> LjL, but i understand what the problem is though
[12:25] <Slart> Nergar: 5800?
[12:25] <LjL> Prognatus, i have no idea why it got in lost+found. however that is unlikely to work, as /* itself *contains* /media/linux, among other things. add the "-x" option to make "cp" stay in the bounds of one filesystem only
[12:25] <ward__> LjL, just not the commands
[12:25] <swatF1RESTORM> dyrne: so just change eth1 to wlan0?
[12:25] <Slart> Nergar: or 5900
[12:25] <generalj> anyone use blackbox/fluxbox ?
[12:25] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: look i would leave it as is.. screwing with renaming network interfaces is just asking for problems
[12:25] <juice`> dyrne: what was the auto-config tool for Xorg ?
[12:25] <juice`> some Xconfigurator
[12:25] <juice`> but i can't find the package for it
[12:25] <orbisvicis> hey, what man-pages tool do I need with this error <make[2] : *** No rule to make target `adesklets.1', needed by `all-am'.  Stop.
[12:25] <orbisvicis> > ?
[12:25] <Nergar> Slart, you shure? i need to forward it but don't know which one is it
[12:25] <Prognatus> LJL, Ok
[12:25] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: perhaps u can add an alias.. i would google it at best
[12:25] <Flatline> how do i show the user list in XCHAT?
[12:25] <rococo> generalj, I used to
[12:26] <fxfitz> Whenever I try to open a file, the gnome file selector program is always showing hidden files. It didn't use to, and I don't know what I might have done to change it. Can anyone help me make it so I can only see the non-hidden files?
[12:26] <rococo> Flatline, it should just be on the right. Usually when it isn't there the window just isn't big enough
[12:26] <Pelo> juice`,  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:26] <Slart> Nergar: I would check the documentation for the vnc server you're using.. but most use 5900
[12:26] <Slart> !vnc
[12:26] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:26] <Flatline> my window is maximised...
[12:26] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: this has been the only real place I've found results... i guess my google-fu is weak
[12:26] <juice`> Pelo: thanks
[12:26] <Flatline> and theres no user list >.<
[12:26] <generalj> rococo, what do you use now just standard gnome?
[12:27] <Pelo> Flatline,  play aorund with the settings in display  the member list is rezised to almost nothig on the right
[12:27] <Nergar> k thnx
[12:27] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: ok well i guees if someone else knows, just leave it as is
[12:27] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: which desklet did u find? link?
[12:27] <LjL> ward__, i'm just thinking of something very empirical.  grep -R qapplication.h  simply searches all files in the program's directory for any lines that contain the string "qapplication.h", and lists them.    now, you know that your qapplication.h file is at /usr/include/qt4/Qt/qapplication.h (since that's what  dpkg -L libqt4-dev  says: try it).   so you need to find which of those lines is wrong, and use a text editor to change it.
[12:27] <Nergar> Slart, i'm using the one that comes with ubuntu
[12:27] <fxfitz> Anyone?
[12:27] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: i just did sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[12:27] <LjL> ward__, it might be non trivial. what's this program you're compiling?
[12:27] <rococo> generalj, I usually use Enlightenment, though occasionally Gnome, and I use either with beryl depending on how my graphics card is feeling
[12:27] <mirra> whats the easiest way to install two instances of mysql on the same machine (i want to set up replication for an effective backup without locking the main db)
[12:27] <orbisvicis> that is, if it is a man tool
[12:27] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: lol ok.. and did u find some usefull ones?
[12:28] <Pelo> fxfitz,  rightclick  uncheck show hidden files
[12:28] <amicrawler> ok i found the power mangamnet
[12:28] <amicrawler> it said never for sleep
[12:28] <amicrawler> but still does
[12:28] <fxfitz> Pelo, Aw man, I can't believe it was that simple. Thanks!!
[12:28] <amicrawler> after 4-5hrs
[12:28] <generalj> rococo, lol, yeah my card seems to work better at times, like right now it seems to be wierding out.
[12:28] <amicrawler> i have to shut down the box  cold shutdown
[12:29] <nexous> Anyone successfully create their own cd via reconstructor?
[12:29] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: I found one under the system/net category... SideCandy Network v.10
[12:29] <vikzx86> I am Linux newbie. I have downloaded source of a program. I have no idea how a compile and install it. Any Help?
[12:29] <Pelo> fxfitz,  you'd be surprised what ppl ask that they could find out for themselves with a few simple tries
[12:29] <Slart> Nergar: go with 5900... if you haven't changed anything it should be that one.. or rather 5900 + display number...
[12:29] <Possum> LjL, awesome, it worked... that's all I needed was the second command
[12:29] <ward__> LjL, its gephex
[12:29] <amicrawler> vikzx86  what distro
[12:29] <heroin> vikzx86: big chance u dont need to compilte it.. just apt-get it
[12:29] <rococo> generalj, it pretty just depends on where the memory is, and if anything's leaked it, I think. My graphics card isn't the best, either
[12:29] <ward__> LjL, and i tried the first command u said but it does nothing :s
[12:29] <Slart> Nergar: and I think you're sharing display number 0
[12:29] <fxfitz> Pelo, You know what, I actually tried that too. Except I didn't click on the file list. I clicked right under it. :-P
[12:29] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: and how do I respond to just you?
[12:29] <ward__> it just goed to the next line
[12:29] <sayers> Are there any email clients better than Evolution :p
[12:29] <blackjackel> anyone know what it means when it says: "some packages could not be authenticated" and "Install packages without verification?"
[12:30] <Nergar> Slart, ok, thnx. i used the network tools to check for open ports and 5900 is open
[12:30] <sayers> blackjackel, google ;)
[12:30] <rococo> sayers, I prefer Thunderbird over evolution, personally
[12:30] <vikzx86> amicrawler, Ubuntu
[12:30] <Pelo> sayers,  if you want just email try thunderbird
[12:30] <amicrawler> vikzx86  the only time you may need to compile a prg  is where there is not a dpkg
[12:30] <generalj> rococo, well i have a nice nvidia 6800 so i dunno why it is having troubles
[12:30] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: well whenever someone says my name it highlights the line so i see whenever u say something in clear white
[12:30] <LjL> ward__: err wrong command,  grep -R qapplication.h .    <-- note the period at the end
[12:30] <sayers> Pelo, Well Evolution doesn't work with email to well
[12:30] <fxfitz> Speaking of VNC, with windows I once used a VNC program that I could access a server through http. Does anyone know if thats possible from Linux?
[12:30] <vikzx86> heroin, I have this xmms-plugin source. how do i install it?
[12:30] <generalj> rococo, you know if you can get enlightenment though synaptic?
[12:30] <nuu> fxfitz: yes it is
[12:30] <UberDuper> What's the apt command to see currently installed packages?
[12:31] <vikzx86> amicrawler, , I have this xmms-plugin source. how do i install it?
[12:31] <Pelo> sayers,  it works well for me, and I have 3 accounts setup
[12:31] <fxfitz> nuu, How would I go about doing that??
[12:31] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: ok cool. so now that I am on my LAN what will happen if I restart? wil lit auto-look for wifi?
[12:31] <heroin> vikzx86: ./configure make install then make i believe :D
[12:31] <sayers> Pelo, I cant get the smtp working
[12:31] <Pelo> UberDuper,  man apt
[12:31] <amicrawler> no need for it
[12:31] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: yush i believe it will :D
[12:31] <dyrne> UberDuper: dpkg -L or l i forget which
[12:31] <rococo> generalj, last I checked, it was on there, but I don't think the newest version, e17, is (e17 has a lot more features than e16)
[12:31] <amicrawler> from the shell do a apt-get install xmms
[12:31] <amicrawler> from the shell do a sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:31] <GenNMX> How does one check the size of their HDDs?
[12:31] <Pelo> sayers,  it is a secured account ?  try  addin the port for the server as  ???.???.???:port
[12:31] <dyrne> GenNMX: df -h
[12:31] <UberDuper> dyrne: Ah dpkg. It'll all come back to me soon enough.
[12:31] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: and then to get it to switch over to the LAN once I've restarted?
[12:32] <GenNMX> dyrne: That goes by partition.
[12:32] <rococo> generalj, e16 is still quite good, you just have to spend time configuring it to get it to act the way you want
[12:32] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: it will probaly pick LAN as prefered connection and then wifi
[12:32] <Pelo> GenNMX,  menu> system > admin > system monitor  last tab
[12:32] <ward__> LjL, ok i'll try it
[12:32] <heroin> heroin: so if LAN drop it picks up WIFI :)
[12:32] <amicrawler> or you can get it from the pakage manager
[12:32] <blackjackel> sayers, googling those terms returns results of people having trouble and the solutions to them... not WHY it says that...
[12:32] <ward__> LjL, its hard to keep up with u :p
[12:32] <nuu> fxfitz: sudo apt-get xvnc4viewer
[12:32] <dyrne> GenNMX: want a long one liner command using awk and such to add em together ;p
[12:33] <rococo> generalj, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:33] <LjL> ward__, you're trying to manually compile software that's got a broken makefile. it just isn't easy, no way around that.
[12:33] <amicrawler> ubuntu is a deb based system  not rpm or  pkg  bsd etc:
[12:33] <smacky> i need the command to install something that makes a mpg file to a iso file plz
[12:33] <ward__> LjL, maybe yeah
[12:33] <generalj> rococo, fiesty 7.04
[12:33] <sayers> blackjackel, you have to install some GPG key I believe it is called
[12:33] <LjL> smacky: "mv file.mpg file.iso"?
[12:33] <Pelo> this channel woudl be a lot easier to follow if ppl would prefix the name of the person they are talking to
[12:34] <rollerskatejamms> Pelo, YES!
[12:34] <amicrawler> smaky  use k3b
[12:34] <LjL> true
[12:34] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: it connected to my wifi first, with the cable plugged in
[12:34] <amicrawler> and make it a iso
[12:34] <rollerskatejamms> smacky, Agreed k3b rocks, and I don't even use KDE
[12:34] <Pelo> smacky,  sudo apt-get install devede
[12:34] <kaostikone> hey does any one know a good website creation tool for Ubuntu????
[12:34] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: O.o ok iam not a network connection expert :D
[12:34] <blackjackel> sayers, oh, I see.... Yeah this one site told me to do this "
[12:34] <blackjackel> wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -" but doing that dosent actually complete... it just hangs there and does nothing
[12:34] <Pelo> kaostikone,  nvu
[12:34] <dyrne> rollerskatejamms: the trumpet startles me every time though
[12:34] <rococo> generalj, so you're using the beryl that's included in the Ubuntu repositories, rather than the 3rd-party beryl repository you needed with edgy?
[12:34] <kaostikone> thanks pelo
[12:34] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: but in my world internet is internet :D wifi OR lan :)
[12:35] <amicrawler> amicrawler needs  k3b to copy disk to iso but will not let me
[12:35] <amicrawler> protected content
[12:35] <rollerskatejamms> dyrne, hehe
[12:35] <amicrawler> i just want a back up
[12:35] <amicrawler> and it is from my dvdr
[12:35] <amicrawler> it add drm to it
[12:35] <kaostikone> pelo where can i get nvu???
[12:35] <amicrawler> my bad
[12:35] <generalj> I think so, before this install of feisty I was using the svn of beryl that i got info about from lhancock blog
[12:35] <Pelo> amicrawler, you can'T copy cpyrightd contend, and this is freenode we can't tell you how to do it,  not that I would know anyway
[12:36] <smacky> ok is devede the one that works  with the command of .....mkiso ?
[12:36] <Pelo> kaostikone, synaptic probably
[12:36] <kaostikone> nope
[12:36] <amicrawler> it;s not
[12:36] <kaostikone> tried
[12:36] <Pelo> kaostikone, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[12:36] <kbrooks> !info deskbar
[12:36] <fxfitz> nuu, Isn't that just a vncviewing program though? I want to access a server and "view" the desktop through Firefox.
[12:36] <ubotu> Package deskbar does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:36] <Pelo> kaostikone, google for a site
[12:36] <kaostikone> thanks again
[12:36] <amicrawler> came from my 8mm cam
[12:36] <kaostikone> okee
[12:36] <amicrawler> and copyed to a dvd-r
[12:36] <heroin> fxfitz: urm google would answer that.. tightvnc might have http?
[12:36] <Pelo> amicrawler,   stop using the enterkey as punctuation please
[12:36] <amicrawler> but now my content  has drm writen all over it
[12:37] <ward__> LjL, could u please paste your explenation of the commands again?
[12:37] <nuu> fxfitz: there are java vnc viewers too, that run inside a browser
[12:37] <Flannel> kaostikone: Nvu has been removed from the repos (as of feisty) because it's not under active development.  Check out Kompozer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kompozer
[12:37] <fxfitz> heroin, Gotcha. I will check it out.
[12:37] <LjL> ward__, i'm just thinking of something very empirical.  grep -R qapplication.h .  simply searches all files in the program's directory for any lines that contain the string "qapplication.h", and lists them.    now, you know that your qapplication.h file is at /usr/include/qt4/Qt/qapplication.h (since that's what  dpkg -L libqt4-dev  says: try it).   so you need to find which of those lines is wrong, and use a text editor to change it.
[12:37] <ward__> LjL, ultrafast scroll of this channel made me loose them
[12:37] <Pelo> amicrawler, check the site of you camera maker
[12:37] <ward__> tthenax
[12:37] <ward__> LjL, thanx
[12:37] <kaostikone> hhahahahah was nvu dot com
[12:37] <amicrawler> sony 8mm
[12:37] <amicrawler> anlog cam
[12:37] <smacky> Pelo is devede the one that works with the command of mkiso movie.mpg    ?????
[12:37] <amicrawler> not fire wire
[12:37] <amicrawler> just old 8mm
[12:38] <generalj> anyone know a good debian/ubuntu program to print out cd covers that actually adhear onto the cd?
[12:38] <Pelo> smacky,  devede is gui , you just tell put in your video file and asjust a few settings and it makes your iso for you
[12:38] <Flannel> kaostikone: you don't want nvu, you want kompozer.  It's nvu but updated
[12:38] <Pelo> smacky,  in vcd , svcd or dvd format
[12:38] <smacky> thanks bro
[12:38] <heroin> Flannel: NVU has been updated?
[12:38] <swatF1RESTORM> heroin: sorry you just know more than me and are one of the only people to help me out all day. I guess the network desklet i got is not working because my Device stays at eth0 no matter if I'm on wired or wireless. I think my brains cooked for the day anyway. :-p
[12:38] <amicrawler> pelo  you know the old  8mm cams
[12:38] <kaostikone> kewl
[12:38] <Flannel> heroin: Not nvu itself, but a fork-ish sort of thing, yeah.  Now called kompozer.
[12:39] <amicrawler> got one
[12:39] <travel> Is it possible to create a Windows like login script for Ubuntu that will allow me to mount a Windows network share?
[12:39] <Pelo> generalj,  that,s not the program that's the media you print on
[12:39] <amicrawler> and using my manovox
[12:39] <kaostikone> can i get synaptic??? of kompozer?? Flannel
[12:39] <amicrawler> dvd-r player
[12:39] <Flannel> !samba | travel
[12:39] <juice`> where else i can look for logs if GNOME doesnt want to start? else than /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[12:39] <LjL> travel: you can just mount it in /etc/fstab
[12:39] <ubotu> travel: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:39] <Flannel> kaostikone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kompozer
[12:39] <amicrawler> to copy to
[12:39] <amicrawler> but i lead out on a disk
[12:39] <Pelo> travel, you can probably do that with samba and fstab but dont, ask me how
[12:39] <heroin> swatF1RESTORM: no problem just trying to help :) i always use LAN so its simpler for me
[12:39] <kbrooks> !deskbar
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deskbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <LjL> !enter | amicrawler
[12:39] <ubotu> amicrawler: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:39] <kaostikone> thanks Flannel
[12:39] <kbrooks> pelo: it is not that hard
[12:40] <Pelo> kbrooks, what ?
[12:40] <amicrawler> and can not  undo this !
[12:40] <peepsalot> what do you guys think is the best news(nntp) client?
[12:40] <Pelo> kbrooks,  nvm
[12:40] <wastedfluid> Can anyone lend me a hand with a synaptic touchpad issue?
[12:40] <Pelo> amicrawler,  are you reading anything ppl tell you ?
[12:40] <kaostikone> i use thunderbird for my nntp and mail
[12:40] <amicrawler> yes i am 1
[12:40] <kaostikone> peepsalot
[12:40] <amicrawler> !
[12:40] <Pelo> !synaptics > wastedfluid  check for a private msg from ubotu  with instructions
[12:40] <travel> Alright ill give this a try
[12:40] <generalj> Pelo, well i downloaded a cd cover for ubuntustudio that they had on their site but when i print it prints full page sized and not the correct cd size. I dont want to keep testing different sizes there i get the size that works was hoping a program i could get would auto do that for me
[12:40] <wastedfluid> ty
[12:41] <Pelo> amicrawler,  state your problem in none paragraph, so we can read it in one go
[12:41] <LjL> Pelo: none paragraph will work
[12:41] <juice`> where else i can look for logs if GNOME doesnt want to start? else than /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[12:41] <LjL> juice`: /var/log/Xorg.0.log :)
[12:42] <default> hello I have a real tek sound card, I downloaded the package from the manufacturer , but i don't know how to install it. Any help with this would be very nice:)_
[12:42] <nickrud> juice`, also ~/.xsession-errors
[12:42] <blackjackel> Anyone know why the following command won't finish: "
[12:42] <juice`> LjL: that's not 'else' :)
[12:42] <blackjackel> wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -" ?
[12:42] <Pelo> generalj,  check the print settings of whatever program you used to print to full size and not to fit the page,  try in gimp also that would probably be best
[12:42] <kaostikone> later all
[12:42] <LjL> juice`: yes it is, since you said Xorg.log.0 :)
[12:42] <amr> hello i have installed flight gear game and then i tried to run it but the graphics run too slow can anyone help
[12:42] <LjL> !sound > default    (default, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:42] <ward__> LjL, extremely many files seem to contain qapplication.h
[12:42] <juice`> LjL: oh ok, well just typing mistake
[12:42] <ward__> in the source
[12:42] <Pelo> amicrawler,  state your problem in one paragraph, so we can read it in one go
[12:42] <UberDuper> There any apt sources for ubuntu xen 3.1 packages?
[12:43] <heroin> Pelo:  lol :P
[12:43] <generalj> Pelo, yeah i will try gimp i did download the xcf version of it from the site
[12:43] <LjL> ward__: that doesn't suprise me. however, see if among those there is "Makefile", or "configure"
[12:43] <ward__> LjL, ok
[12:43] <m1r> hi all
[12:43] <m1r> 7.04 hybernation problem on laptop
[12:43] <jnie> Can anybody help with an internal card reader?
[12:44] <m1r> it dont boot after , jsut blocks
[12:44] <default> ljl: thanks but i did that i think, i have the kernal package in this but i don't know how to install it
[12:44] <LjL> ward__: another approach: just edit that one .cpp file that's erroring out, and change the line containing #include <qapplication.h> (there should be one) into #include "/usr/include/qt4/Qt/qapplication.h" --- however, that will probably give you other errors later
[12:44] <Pelo> m1r, hibernation problems in linux period, check the forum for details
[12:44] <m1r> ty pelo
[12:44] <wastedfluid> Pelo; that synaptics guide isn't my problem.. I just looked..
[12:44] <LjL> default: what card is this precisely?
[12:44] <ward__> LjL, ok will try the first one first
[12:45] <default> ljl: how do you log into x-chat?
[12:45] <amr> hello i have installed flight gear game and then i tried to run it but the graphics run too slow can anyone help
[12:45] <wastedfluid> I'm having the problem as to trying to "move" your cursor w/ the touchpad will click.. it will paste.. drag... and it's making it really hard to use the touchpad at all.
[12:45] <LjL> amr: do you have an nvidia or ati card?
[12:45] <dyrne> amr: you have nvidia or ati or intel card?
[12:45] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  I donT know anyting about synaptics and it's a busy channel I just thought it might be agood place to start, give the forum a try
[12:45] <wastedfluid> Okay, thanks Pelo.
[12:45] <amr> i have SIS card
[12:45] <default> ljl: It is realtek onboard audio, Its a biostar TFORCE 550 mbo
[12:46] <LjL> sis? uh...
[12:46] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  you are not being dismissed , I'm just tring to get you some help in these busy times
[12:46] <ward__> LjL, no makefile or configure file with the string in it :(
 can i run the game
[12:46] <Plouj> hi
[12:47] <wastedfluid> Pelo; I understand.  I've been looking for a fix, and I found one on a gentoo wikipedia.. but I can't use it.  I tried to install gsynaptics, but it doesn't like my atk package
[12:47] <Iceman_B> whoa
[12:47] <Plouj> what are some diagnostic commands I can run to make sure that all of my apps are installed correctly?
[12:47] <Iceman_B> hi
[12:47] <wastedfluid> so I'm just at a loss.
[12:47] <LjL> amr, i have no idea what that SIS graphics card of yours would be like, so i don't know. keep in mind FlightGear does require a relatively beefy graphics card.
[12:47] <seedofc> amr: I don't think there is a supported accelerated driver for SiS chipsets (or most of them at least).
[12:47] <dawkins> Can I run a self-extracting Windows executable on Wine?
[12:47] <nickrud> wastedfluid, it's a pain, yes: you can add Option "TouchpadOff" 2 to /etc/X11/xorg.conf under the Synaptics Touchpad section, that will turn off all scrolling.
[12:47] <default> realtek supports this audio card with linux and redhat, I downloaded package to desktop, but can't install it, using 64 bit ubuntu
[12:47] <dyrne> dawkins: yeah
[12:47] <Pelo> wastedfluid, if it's a matter of package you can always compile the source it'snot complicated, just tedious
[12:48] <vikzx86> Help. I have installed Xmms but i cant see any Characters. All dialog boxes are empty boxes.
[12:48] <Iceman_B> anyone have a clue how to give xchat a mirc look(colorswise) and does it support multiple-servers at the same time?
[12:48] <wastedfluid> Well.. I don't think my scrollbar is what is going crazy... if it's the scrollbar in the touchpad that's making it paste everytime I touch anywhere on the touchpad, I'll disable it ..
[12:48] <shawn34> how can i convert an avi to mp4 with avidemux2 ?
[12:48] <swatF1RESTORM> what would cause a desklet to display incorrect network information?
[12:48] <LjL> default: what's the output of  lshw -C sound  ?
[12:48] <wastedfluid> but it just seems every time I touch the touchpad at all.. to move the cursor, it will paste if in a textbox, it'll drag windows, etc.
[12:48] <ubuntu> Pelo:  ok i am back , and i am at fiesty
[12:48] <nickrud> wastedfluid, man synaptics has a whole bunch of things you can adjust, I just used that as a hammer on that problem
[12:48] <Pelo> Iceman_B,  it does do multi server and check in the prefs for colours
[12:48] <Iceman_B> thanks
[12:49] <dyrne> vikzx86: well there is always beep media player. youre using gnome with regular window manager?
[12:49] <hendaus> Pelo:  sorry but i make configure the connection
[12:49] <m1r> is it only me or ubuntuforums.org a bit down atm ?
[12:49] <wastedfluid> nickrud; I just wish I could figure them out.
[12:49] <Pelo> ubuntu ?
[12:49] <EJL> Is this the right channel for ubuntu installing help?
[12:49] <LjL> yes EJL
[12:49] <hendaus> Pelo:  ubuntu = hendaus
[12:49] <heroin> EJL yes
[12:49] <Pelo> ah
[12:49] <UberDuper> Any of you know if xen 3.1 packages are available for ubuntu?
[12:49] <default> The package contains; alsa driver,alsa lib, alsa utils,install,modules,readtxt,test,tubolinux txt....
[12:49] <Pelo> hendaus,  I donT, understand your problem
[12:49] <heroin> UberDuper: apt-cache search xen
[12:49] <nickrud> wastedfluid, there's some info on turning on SHMConfig (sp?) and then you can interactively change the stuff (ie, experiment)
[12:50] <default> ljl: checking
[12:50] <nexous> Wow, my laptop wont load my cd
[12:50] <Pelo> UberDuper, google
[12:50] <seedofc> m1r: nope it' snot
[12:50] <UberDuper> heroin: The default sources only have 3.0
[12:50] <hendaus> Pelo:  i am now on fiesty, but still the hards disks cannot be shown on desktop
[12:50] <UberDuper> Pelo: Google failed.
[12:50] <m1r> seedofc , dont get it ?
[12:50] <seedofc> m1r: ubuntuforums.org is not down
[12:50] <Pelo> hendaus, same thing we did yesterday
[12:50] <heroin> UberDuper: then i doubt thre us a xen 3.1 package eh :P
[12:51] <EJL> I'm having an issue with installing ubuntu on an IBM Thinkpad iSeries 1171 laptop.  Any version I try to install hangs at "SCSI subsystem initialized".  I'm not ablt to find any help online about that issue.
[12:51] <m1r> seedofc, content is messed up a bit
[12:51] <Pelo> hendaus,  but you will need to ask in #kubuntu for help because like I said, I donT, know where the stuff is in kubuntu that we need to use
[12:51] <hendaus> Pelo: give me the command to open sources.list and let me see if dapper replaces with fiesty
[12:51] <seedofc> m1r: looks fine to me!
[12:51] <m1r> hmm strange
[12:52] <m1r> like tables are messed
[12:52] <Pelo> hendaus,   kdsu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:52] <seedofc> m1r: must be your browser, try some other sites... or sites with forums
[12:52] <default> ljl: don't see output, just multimedia unclaimed and so-on
[12:52] <m1r> ok i check
[12:52] <m1r> maybe also hibernation problem  :/
[12:53] <seedofc> m1r:  just went on the forum, logged in, did a search for bitchx, opened up an post, all with no problems.
[12:53] <FP> Notte a Tutti
[12:53] <LjL> default: err, by "output" i meant "whatever it printed"
[12:53] <m1r> yes i see content but i dont see pictures or tables, i try reboot
[12:53] <LjL> !pastebin > default    (default, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:53] <default> ljl: wait I will paste bin
[12:54] <mirra> whats the easiest way to install two instances of mysql on the same machine (i want to set up replication for an effective backup without locking the main db)?
[12:54] <default> ljl:lol ok hang on i will paste it
[12:54] <mbutUbuntu01> hello folks
[12:54] <ward__> LjL, treeview_moc.ccp does not exist in the source dir of the program i'm trying to compile !
[12:54] <seedofc> mirra: virtual machine mabye?
[12:54] <ward__> ffs :s
[12:54] <Taime1> my windows computers cannot see my linux machines on my network at work... samba is installed and setup correctly, and the linux machines, until today, were having no problem communicating with the other windows machines... what am i doing wrong??
[12:54] <heroin> mirra: urm.. wouldnt know but perhaps mysql and some other sql lightsql or whatever?
[12:54] <mbutUbuntu01> do you know If I can clean the deb packages cache??
[12:54] <EJL> Anyone know what would cause an install to lockup at "SCSI subsystem initialized"?
[12:54] <preaction> mirra: you can run two instances of the same server with different configurations i believe
[12:54] <heroin> Taime1: windows update or something shitty?
[12:55] <LjL> ward__: "that's interesting" :-P while i look at it... there is a Debian package available on the program's site. it fails a dependency on Feisty, but i've tried it and it runs.
[12:55] <Taime1> hm...i dunno
[12:55] <wastedfluid> Could any of you recommend a program outside of gsynaptics that I can adjust the sensivitiy of the "clicks" on a synaptic touchpad?  Someone on ubuntu forums recommened gsynpatics, but I can't get it installed
[12:55] <juice`> when i try to watch movies using vlc or totem or xine, i clearly see pixels when i select fullscreen. output goes on TV, but it was not like that on windows. any idea what could be the reason ?
[12:55] <mirra> preaction, is there an easy way to install it, maybe with apt, so it can be removed easily..do you know of a tutorial or something I can follow??
[12:55] <preaction> mirra: but it might be easiest to run a mysqldump, it's a non-locking read
[12:55] <ward__> LjL, it didn't run here :s
[12:55] <ward__> maybe its updated
[12:55] <preaction> mirra: same server, same binary, different Instances using different configurations
[12:55] <ward__> here it still have the dependency
[12:55] <Pelo> wastedfluid, why can't you get it installed ? I can probably help with that
[12:55] <mirra> preaction, i keep getting mixed reviews on that..everyone in #mysql says it is far from safe to do it on a active db
[12:55] <default> ljl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21908/
[12:55] <heroin> ward__: enter someones name before a sentence please
[12:56] <ward__> heroin, i do that the first sentence allways...
[12:56] <LjL> ward__, it has broken dependencies here too - dpkg complains. but then the program runs when you try to run it.
[12:56] <heroin> ward__: u can hit the TAB key to auto compelte someones name
[12:56] <thunderbar1> hello...is this the right place to get help printing?
[12:56] <ward__> dpkg?
[12:56] <heroin> ward__: u should do it every sentence :)
[12:56] <wastedfluid> Pelo; gsynaptics says my libatk Dependency is not satisifable; I re-isntalled libatk with the Synaptics Package manager, and it still doesn't work
[12:56] <ward__> did u install it with dkpg?
[12:56] <EJL> What would cause an install to lockup at "SCSI subsystem initialized"?
[12:56] <Pelo> thunderbar1, rigth place wrong time
[12:56] <ward__> heroin, i know about the tab lol
[12:57] <Pelo> wastedfluid, also install the related -dev package
[12:57] <ward__> heroin, i'm not retarded, :-p
[12:57] <rococo> EJL, that's a tough one. what are you using for install CD?
[12:57] <wastedfluid> Synaptics Package Manager installs depencies, doesn't it?
[12:57] <wastedfluid> -dev package, let me check .. I think I have
[12:57] <ward__> LjL, did u install it with dkpg?
[12:57] <LjL> ward__: how else?
[12:57] <Pelo> thunderbar1, if you have a specific issue state it and if someone knows they will try and answer
[12:57] <GenNMX> With RAID1, should each of the two HDDs need to be the exact same make & model?
[12:57] <LjL> default, i'm quite clueless
[12:57] <default> ljl:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21908/
[12:57] <hendaus> Pelo:  how can i get amsn?
[12:57] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  usualy sometimes you need to five it a little help
[12:57] <ward__> LjL, i just open it with the standard installer
[12:57] <Matir> GenNMX, it would be ideal, but same size is sufficient
[12:57] <wastedfluid> Pelo; everything "libatk" is installed.. lol
[12:57] <LjL> ward__: oh, gdebi? use dpkg.
[12:58] <wastedfluid> I guess I couldn't figure out which one it needed, and I installed them all.
[12:58] <heroin> hendaus: amsn should come w. ubuntu but type sudo apt-get install amsn
[12:58] <ward__> LjL, "dkpg package.deb"  ?
[12:58] <Pelo> hendaus,  install it , check in the kubuntu package manager, or ask in #kubuntu how to instal it
[12:58] <default> ljl: ok lol thats um helpfull :)
[12:58] <Apex> How to you change default applications (i.e. change by default cd/dvd burning program to gnomebaker)?
[12:58] <LjL> ward__: disclaimer: i cannot guarantee anything, not even that it will uninstall cleanly.
[12:58] <Apex> do*
[12:58] <thunderbar1> pelo - shouli i just jump in with a question?
[12:58] <LjL> ward__: no sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[12:58] <Pelo> wastedfluid, what is the exact dependency message ?
[12:58] <ward__> LjL, ok
[12:58] <wastedfluid> Hold on, Pelo.
[12:58] <Pelo> thunderbar1, that's usualy the best way to go
[12:58] <ward__> LjL, doesnt matther, if it runs there it'll probably run here, if not, too bad
[12:58] <LjL> !default > Apex    (Apex, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:59] <wastedfluid> Error: Dependacy is not satisiiable: libatk1.0-0
[12:59] <Apex> thx
[12:59] <LjL> ward__, i can't understand the treeview_moc.cpp issue. you say it's not in the source tree, but i can't see it in any package, either
[12:59] <Pelo> wastedfluid, what version of libatk do you hve installed ?
[12:59] <LjL> !find libatk
[12:59] <ubotu> Found: libatk1.0-0, libatk1.0-dbg, libatk1.0-dev, libatk1.0-doc, libatk1-ruby (and 1 others)
[12:59] <rfc> Hi escitalopram  ;)
[12:59] <LjL> !info libatk1.0-0 feisty
[12:59] <ubotu> libatk1.0-0: The ATK accessibility toolkit. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 76 kB, installed size 200 kB
[12:59] <nixternal> some dude installed (tried to) frostwire, says it crashed and now when he boots up gnome he gets just the tan background and nothing else...what does he need to remove in ~/ in order to fix this? I don't use gnome, and he don't use IRC
[12:59] <wastedfluid> Pelo; 1.11.4
[01:00] <ward__> LjL, its just a f*cked up source i think
[01:00] <default> ljl: lol thout default was for me:)
[01:00] <wastedfluid> libatk1.11.4 is installed.. every "libatk" is installed, and all versions are 1.11.4
[01:00] <Pelo> wastedfluid, check the gsynatpic website fro a more resent version of the package,
[01:00] <LjL> wastedfluid, you're not on Feisty are you?
[01:00] <wastedfluid> Let me check, Pelo.
[01:00] <wastedfluid> I think I have the most up to date verison.
[01:00] <default> ljl:is there more i can check?
[01:00] <LjL> wastedfluid: then i wonder why your libatk1.0-0 would be version 1.11.4 rather than 1.18.0 as it should
[01:01] <wastedfluid> Ljl; I have no idea man.
[01:01] <Pelo> wastedfluid, I mean the gsynaptic package   and  you are also a few libatk versions ahead of everyone else
[01:01] <wastedfluid> I just used Synaptic Package Manager to install them
[01:01] <crimsun> default: please don't use Realtek's tarball(s).
[01:01] <LjL> wastedfluid: what's the output of  lsb_release -a  ? what's the output of  apt-cache policy libatk1.0-0  ?
[01:01] <GaiaX11> I have had problems with my cd/dvd driver. They mount the media, but sometimes they fail. Do you think that I have to clean their lens up with alcohol?
[01:01] <ward__> LjL, sudo: dkpg: command not found
[01:01] <Apex> Do I right click a cd or dvd for properties?
[01:01] <wastedfluid> Ljl; you are talking to someone who is not a unix guru..
[01:01] <ward__> :s
[01:01] <LjL> wastedfluid: dpkg
[01:01] <default> crimsun: what is tarball?
[01:01] <thunderbar1> ok.. I have just installed 6.06 on a basic pc. i can't seem to print to a network printer, even tho' I've set one up as the default??
[01:02] <wastedfluid> want me to lsd_release -a in a terminal/
[01:02] <kafitz> can someone help me with my sound?
[01:02] <crimsun> default: the form in which Realtek distributes those drivers.
[01:02] <LjL> wastedfluid, just type those two commands and paste whatever they print on your screen into the pastebin
[01:02] <Pelo> GaiaX11,  that kind of advice is abit beyond the scopeof this channel
[01:02] <crimsun> kafitz: what's the issue?
[01:02] <LjL> !pastebin > wastedfluid    (wastedfluid, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:02] <ward__> sorry lol
[01:02] <default> well, i don't know how to use that i am newb
[01:02] <kafitz> crimsum: for some reason, when i use my external control, it makes this terrible loud crackle
[01:02] <LjL> wastedfluid: yes, i want you to do that
[01:02] <Iceman_B> is there any more sophisticated alternative to Xchat?
[01:02] <kafitz> crimsum: it doesn't do this in windows
[01:02] <rococo> thunderbar1, did you put in the printer's IP and such?
[01:02] <default> its in the trash
[01:02] <wastedfluid> Wow I'm stupid.  I have an outdated version of gsynpatics.. let me download the newer version.
[01:02] <Iceman_B> so far Ive opnly worked with mIRC
[01:02] <Silent_G> hm
[01:02] <crimsun> kafitz: "external control"?
[01:02] <Pelo> thunderbar1,  you'll need to install samba to comunicate with the network and probably give permissions for using the network printer,  check here for details  (I think )  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty or the forum
[01:02] <Silent_G> hello
[01:03] <LjL> !irc > Iceman_B    (Iceman_B, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:03] <thunderbar1> rococo - where do i do that?
[01:03] <kafitz> crimsum: yeah, i have a little whell which comtrols the volume
[01:03] <macd> !java
[01:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:03] <Pelo> Iceman_B, you are probably using xchat-gnome, try real xchat
[01:03] <Silent_G> LjL is it posible to make KDE as defualt window manager on ubuntu ?
[01:03] <seedofc> Iceman_B: BitchX
[01:03] <GaiaX11> Pelo: I have asked in #ubuntu-offtopic as well, but ...
[01:03] <linxeh> GaiaX11: maybe you need to clean the lens, but just use a brush - no alcohol. you might want to clean the rubber grips that hold the CD in place. If that doesn't work, buy a new drive
[01:03] <crimsun> default: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[01:03] <default> crimsun: did you look at pastebin url?
[01:03] <kafitz> crimsum: i had this problem in the past that i fixed by reconfiguring something
[01:03] <Iceman_B> pelo: thats available through the package manager?
[01:03] <linxeh> Iceman_B: kvirc3 is very much like mirc
[01:03] <ward__> what does dpkg stand for?
[01:03] <Iceman_B> k
[01:04] <linxeh> ward__: debian package
[01:04] <rococo> thunderbar1, System-->Administration-->Printing
[01:04] <Pelo> Iceman_B, yes , it's just called xchat,  you can also get iit in Add/REmove
[01:04] <Plouj> is there some easy way to install a kernel that is exactly the same as the stock Ubuntu kernel but has the badblocks (RAM) patch?
[01:04] <Silent_G> LjL is it posible to make KDE as defualt window manager on ubuntu ?
[01:04] <Iceman_B> Il try both that and kvirc3, thanks again guys
[01:04] <crimsun> Plouj: easy?  No.
[01:04] <GaiaX11> linxeh: My drive is not old. About 5 months old
[01:04] <ward__> linxeh, thanx, easyer to remember lol
[01:04] <ace> Hi All. Question about K3b. When Ripping a CD, I have the cddb info in a seperat file, how can I integrate ?
[01:04] <rococo> thunderbar1, when you add the printer it should give you options about what kind of network printer it is, you select that and it gives you stuff to fill in
[01:04] <LjL> Silent_G, why don't you just select KDE as your session when you login? it should be remembered the next time.
[01:05] <wastedfluid> give me a second to use the pastebin; I'm trying to install gsynaptics now
[01:05] <Plouj> crimsun: so, in order to use badblocks I have to compile my own kernel?
[01:05] <thunderbar1> thanks rococo and pelo! I'll try those things first..bye
[01:05] <linxeh> GaiaX11: then return it as faulty (at least, in the UK I would do that as we get a 12 month warantee on most stuff)
[01:05] <Silent_G> ok
[01:05] <Pelo> ace,  try a k3b channel if ther is one or #kubuntu
[01:05] <crimsun> Plouj: yes.
[01:05] <Silent_G> is kde installed with installation or do he has to install it manually ?
[01:05] <default> crimsun: what do i open script with
[01:05] <default> ?
[01:05] <ace> Pelo: right, there is no k3b channel, and the doc says to look here :-P
[01:05] <LjL> Silent_G: err, no, Ubuntu comes with GNOME by default. Kubuntu comes with KDE by default.
[01:05] <LjL> !kde > Silent_G    (Silent_G, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:05] <ward__> LjL, it works indeed, but there are no effects lol
[01:05] <l_r> hello
[01:05] <Pelo> Silent_G,  kde is the default manger in kubuntu,  if you installed ubuntu it's gnome  you can get kde with  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <ace> Pelo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+sources/k3b/+gethelp
[01:05] <crimsun> default: no, save it.  Then run ``bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh''
[01:06] <dhorner> hey I've got a new machine with intel matrix raid mirror
[01:06] <l_r> have you ever tried ubuntu 64-bit on a core 2 duo?
[01:06] <ward__> LjL, how can i uninstall with dpkg?
[01:06] <dhorner> the 7.4 is seeing the raid as two drives!
[01:06] <wastedfluid> wow; it says I need libgnomeui-2.0
[01:06] <default> ok crimsun: i am new at this give me one min
[01:06] <Plouj> erm
[01:06] <ward__> LjL, (or try to, doesnt matther if it fails)
[01:06] <Plouj> I meant BadRam kernel patch
[01:06] <linxeh> l_r: I have it running on dual dual-core opterons
[01:06] <LjL> ward__: sudo dpkg -r packagename. but you can just use apt-get
[01:06] <obsethryl> rfc: you need something?
[01:06] <dhorner> does ubuntu have drivers for my intel raid controller?
[01:06] <l_r> linxeh, is it ok?
[01:06] <dhorner> it comes on the motherboard
[01:07] <Pelo> obsethryl, he' s ctcping everyong
[01:07] <chrisjs169> obsethryl: rfc isn't on...
[01:07] <chrisjs169> but i got ctcp'd
[01:07] <l_r> linxeh, any problems?
[01:07] <linxeh> l_r: yeah, it's great (that is as a server)
[01:07] <PrimoTurbo> I'm using xubuntu 7.04 when I plug in my Kodak CX4200 camera it's not automatically mounted
[01:07] <PrimoTurbo> is there anyways to make it work?
[01:07] <ward__> LjL, thanx
[01:07] <linxeh> l_r: I wouldn't run 64bit though unless you have more than 4GB ram
[01:07] <l_r> linxeh, and no experience on a desktop?
[01:07] <obsethryl> chrisjs169: yeah it was the ctcp thing
[01:07] <ward__> LjL, seemd to uninstall fine
[01:07] <Pelo> PrimoTurbo, plug thecamera and turn it on
[01:07] <obsethryl> i think somebody is doing statistics
[01:07] <PrimoTurbo> Pelo: doesn't work
[01:07] <macd> !info sun-java5-jre
[01:07] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-11-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 7287 kB, installed size 16168 kB
[01:07] <PrimoTurbo> it doesn't get mounted or anything
[01:08] <l_r> linxeh, isn't it faster in 64-bit mode?
[01:08] <PrimoTurbo> I have no access to it
[01:08] <linxeh> l_r: I have an AMD64 desktop too, and I run 32 bit on it - too many proprietry drivers / plugins are 32 bit only
[01:08] <ward__> LjL, any other suggestions?
[01:08] <Pelo> PrimoTurbo, check the model and number in the forum
[01:08] <ward__> i'mstarting to get forced back to windows lol
[01:08] <thunderbar1> ...rococo or pelo - I have the printer properties dialog box open: what should I put into the "location" field?
[01:08] <linxeh> l_r: I don't think so; it didn't seem faster when I tried it (but that might be because it was AMD not Intel)
[01:08] <wastedfluid> Ok; I'm trying to install gsynpatics.. the latest version, and it says no libgnomeui-2.0 found. . . I have libgnomeui-2.14.1.. so any ideas?
[01:08] <l_r> is wijndows vista 64-bit?
[01:08] <ward__> more then a week and still not ONE vj program working !
[01:08] <linxeh> l_r: there is a 64 and 32bit version of it
[01:09] <l_r> okay
[01:09] <Pelo> thunderbar1, thepath to the printer throught the netwrok  would guess, I realy don' know anything about this sorry,  I donT do networks
[01:09] <linxeh> l_r: again, they have the same problems with compatibility
[01:09] <dyrne> wastedfluid: you could make a link named what it is looking for to your current lib. that often works for me
[01:09] <Iceman_B> oh here's a kicked, I installed Feisty thinking it would be easier to get Beryl running, but where is it ?
[01:09] <wastedfluid> dyrne; how do i do that
[01:09] <rococo> thunderbar1, Well, what kind of network printer is it?
[01:09] <Pelo> Iceman_B,  ask in #beryl
[01:09] <wastedfluid> wow I'm glad I found this place.
[01:10] <thunderbar1> it's a konica magicolor 2430
[01:10] <wastedfluid> dyrne; how do I point libgnomeui-2.0 to libgnomeui-2.14.1
[01:10] <wastedfluid> ?
[01:10] <ward__> Iceman_B, its compiz that's installed standard...
[01:10] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  now that you are one of us you'll need to give somehelp to
[01:10] <dyrne> ln /path/to/libgnomeui-2.14.1 /path/to/libgnomeui-2.0  or somesuch
[01:10] <wastedfluid> Pelo; I will help as much as I can.  but I am too big of a nube to help anyone right now.
[01:10] <wastedfluid> Maybe if you give me a few weeks I'll pick up on some of this stuff
[01:10] <rococo> thunderbar1, right, what kind of network? I mean, I presume you have this printer working with other computers, yes?
[01:10] <wastedfluid> but you're talking to someone who is having problems compiling gsynpatics >:|
[01:11] <IdleOne> !synaptics | wastedfluid
[01:11] <ubotu> wastedfluid: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:11] <default> crimsun:i typed command said no such file or directory
[01:11] <wastedfluid> No..
[01:11] <wastedfluid> I don't need help with synaptics >:|
[01:11] <wastedfluid> I've read that.. hehe, thank you though
[01:11] <crimsun> default: where did you download and save the alsa-info.sh script?
[01:11] <IdleOne> wastedfluid, nerver mind that link unless you need it hehe
[01:11] <wastedfluid> I need to figure out how to point libgnomeui-2.0 to libgnomeui-2.14.1 so I can install gsynpatics
[01:11] <default>  ``bash~/desktop/alsa-info.sh''
[01:11] <default> bash: bash~/desktop/alsa-info.sh: No such file or directory
[01:11] <Pelo> IdleOne, please read the questions carefully before triggering the bot for no good reason
[01:11] <wastedfluid> It won't ./configure
[01:11] <rococo> thunderbar1, you should see a dropdown with a few different types. you can guess if you really don't know, though I'm guessing it'll be a Windows (SMB) or TCP (direct raw)
[01:11] <default> crimsun: to the desktop
[01:11] <thunderbar1> rococo - yes, it's a windows network (don't laugh). this printer is served by a win2003 svr box
[01:12] <IdleOne> Pelo, :P
[01:12] <archan> is anyone here good with getting windows drives to automount in ubuntu?
[01:12] <rococo> thunderbar1, then all you should really have to do is put in the printer's IP (or name) under "host"
[01:12] <thunderbar1> rococo - i have selected the SMB option but toi no avail.
[01:12] <Scunizi> archan, what do you mean windows drives.  Ntfs drives?
[01:12] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  when you compile manualy you often need to install the -dev package of the dependency as well
[01:12] <h4wk0> wastedfluid; have a look in the configure file
[01:12] <archan> yes, a ntfs drive
[01:12] <wastedfluid> can I xedit and just change libgnomeui-2.0 to libgnomeui-2.14.1..
[01:12] <wastedfluid> or do I need to roll back to libgnomeui-2.0 ?
[01:13] <rococo> thunderbar1, If you don't know what it is, you can probably look it up on the properties on a windows machine
[01:13] <Pelo> archan,   do you know the /dev/ adress of the window partiton ?
[01:13] <default> crimsun: can i open with txt editor?
[01:13] <crimsun> default: Did you run ``bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh'' ?
[01:13] <Scunizi> archan, are you running fiesty or dapper or edgy
[01:13] <archan> all I can do is get it to automount - but owned by root and without permisions to view
[01:13] <ward__> LjL, any ideas left?
[01:13] <archan> fiesty - and I do know the /dev/ tree, yep!
[01:13] <thunderbar1> rococ0 - i'll try putting the ip into that field
[01:13] <Scunizi> !fstab | archan
[01:13] <ubotu> archan: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:13] <wastedfluid> Is there any way I can roll back to libgnomeui-2.0 w/ Synaptics Package manager?  or.. ?
[01:13] <default> crimsun:Yes and it said""" ``bash~/desktop/alsa-info.sh''
[01:13] <default> bash: bash~/desktop/alsa-info.sh: No such file or directory
[01:13] <h4wk0> wastedfluid; in the configure file it should have where it looked for the libfile
[01:13] <cjae> sup my peeps
[01:13] <wastedfluid> Okay; hold on
[01:13] <wastedfluid> let me check
[01:14] <dyrne> archan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[01:14] <h4wk0> Maybe something like /usr/local/lib
[01:14] <crimsun> default: you made multiple typos.  It's ``bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh''
[01:14] <Pelo> archan, what is the dev tree for it ?
[01:14] <archan> this might help more... last time I messed with the fstab I got my resolution stuck to 640x480 - heh
[01:14] <Scunizi> archan, I could give you one of the lines I have in my fstab for dapper ntfs partitions.  That might help.
[01:14] <cjae> hello all
[01:14] <crimsun> default: capitalisation and whitespace are very important.
[01:14] <wastedfluid> er; what do I call to edit configure?
[01:15] <default> wish i couls copy xchat
[01:15] <h4wk0> nano configure
[01:15] <archan> hmm
[01:15] <kafitz> crimsum: i have a realtek alc882 chipset and some monsoon flat panel speakers
[01:15] <h4wk0> or gedit configure
[01:15] <archan> would you recommend the NTFS Fuse module?
[01:15] <LjL> ward__: afraid not
[01:15] <Pelo> later folks
[01:16] <Scunizi> archan, /dev/sda1    /media/sda1    ntfs   defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0  1
[01:16] <ward__> LjL, is there something i can tell the devs to give them more info?
[01:16] <ward__> on what went wrong$
[01:16] <Scunizi> archan, your messages get lost in the noise if you don't mention my nick in the post.
[01:16] <default> crimsun:http://pastebin.ca/501263
[01:16] <wastedfluid> so do I just replace libgnomeui-2.0 in configure with libgnomeui-2.14.1 ?
[01:17] <archan> ooh, gotcha Scunizi
[01:17] <Scunizi> archan, never used the fuse module.... I'm on dapper by the way. so my fstab might look a little different.
[01:17] <archan> Scunizi: the diskmounter script got it up and running for me, going to see how it works writing into it
[01:17] <default> wonder if they got the url?
[01:17] <h4wk0> What does it read wastedfluid?
[01:17] <Scunizi> archan, you can also type part of a nick and then hit tab. Some Irc clients will attempt to finish it fo ryou.
[01:17] <crimsun> default: yes, I'm just very busy.  Please be patient.
[01:17] <default> ljl:
[01:18] <rrmm> whats a good converter from mp3 to ogg?
[01:18] <crabgrass> so i accidentally stopped gnome-system-monitor from within gnome-system-monitor... and i can't get the window to go away. short of restarting x or banishing it to another workspace, what do i do?
[01:18] <LjL> ward__, whole output of the compilation program.
[01:18] <default> crimsun: ok np
[01:18] <wastedfluid> h4wk0; it found libgnomeui-2.0 in two places; I just replaced them with libgnomeui-2.14.1
[01:18] <ward__> LjL, will do
[01:18] <Scunizi> archan,  are you dual booting with winxx?
[01:18] <wastedfluid> and now it says it can't find libgnomeui-2.14.1... lol
[01:18] <dyrne> crabgrass: sometimes xkill and clicking on it is a good solution
[01:18] <crimsun> default: you need to compile and install alsa-{kernel,driver} hg.  We've already fixed that.
[01:18] <archan> Scunizi, the tab trick works, thanks! No writing capabilities, but I can read off of it
[01:18] <crabgrass> xkill?
[01:19] <h4wk0> wastedfluid; do this  - sudo updatedbd | locate libgnomeui-2.14.1
[01:19] <dyrne> crabgrass: yeah gives you a skill cursor and allows you to click/kill
[01:19] <h4wk0> And show me what it throws back
[01:19] <default> crimsun: um ok what did i not do?
[01:19] <rrmm> whats a good converter from mp3 to ogg?
[01:19] <h4wk0> hang on
[01:19] <crabgrass> dyrne: oh damn, that's awesome... thanks!
[01:19] <nj786> how do  icheck my internet connection to see if it running normally?
[01:19] <archan> Scunizi, thank you kindly, your links worked. don't know why I couldn't find it on my own. Guess I'm rustier than I thought - thank you again!
[01:19] <h4wk0> wastedfluid;  sudo updatedb | locate libgnomeui-2.14.1
[01:19] <wastedfluid> updatedb not found
[01:19] <Scunizi> no prob.
[01:19] <crimsun> default: it's not anything you didn't do.  It's just fixed in a newer version.
[01:19] <Scunizi> archan, no prob
[01:19] <wastedfluid> wait; i typed updatebd
[01:19] <wastedfluid> lol
[01:19] <h4wk0> Sorry i noticed my typo
[01:20] <h4wk0> just after i pressed enter :)
[01:20] <lgc> Hi! I copied HDD to a bigger one (with some partition reordering, except for the Windows one) and I can't get Wiindows to start. I end up at "UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME". I will appreciate your advice (except "delete your Windoze" or the like).
[01:20] <crabgrass> okay, next up, anyone have any experiance setting up mpd?
[01:20] <mirra> how can I get the latest mysql-server for ubuntu6.10 without using apt?
[01:20] <mirra> the source
[01:20] <wastedfluid> h4wk0: it did nothing
[01:20] <wastedfluid> It worked for a second..
[01:20] <h4wk0> mirra; the source - build it yourself
[01:20] <EJL> Anyone know what would cause an install to lockup at "SCSI subsystem initialized"? Install CD is good because it works in other pc's.  I've tried ubuntu 7.04 live and ubuntu alt., kubuntu, and xubuntu all with the same hang.  I've checked the system bios and there's not really any options and no bios updates.  I've installed ubuntu on the hard drive in another laptop and when it reboots put the hard drive back into the other laptop with the s
[01:20] <default> crimsun: ok um how do i get it?got url for reposatory in synap?
[01:20] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | lgc
[01:20] <ubotu> lgc: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:20] <crabgrass> mirra: head over to their website and download the source, then compile it
[01:20] <mirra> h4wk0, which one
[01:21] <lgc> IdleOne, thanks. Let me take a look at it...
[01:21] <h4wk0> Unless they have the deb packages still around mirra (cant remeber if they still do)
[01:21] <mirra> on the site its only has 6.06
[01:21] <h4wk0> wastedfluid; kk
[01:21] <linxeh> mirra: the source, not a binary
[01:21] <crimsun> default: follow the bottom of the Download page linked from http://www.alsa-project.org
[01:21] <crabgrass> !mpd
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <wastedfluid> h4wk0: Okay, updatedb is done.. but it still says it cannot find libgnomeui-2.14.1 after I ./configure Gsynaptics
[01:21] <h4wk0> wastedfluid; sudo updatedb | locate libgnomeui
[01:21] <crabgrass> how do i find things?
[01:21] <rrmm> why is ogg so much better and how do i convert mp3 to ogg? there is a cool program but its only for kubuntu
[01:21] <wastedfluid> ok
[01:21] <wastedfluid> It just.. did that
[01:21] <wastedfluid> whatever that did.. lol
[01:22] <IdleOne> lgc, not exactly what you need but may help you some. think what you need to do is fix the MBR for windows but grub handles the booting of multiple OS'es better
[01:22] <Scunizi> crabgrass, from the console type locate or find then part of the file.
[01:22] <crabgrass> i'm looking for a search or find app... or somesuch terminal command
[01:22] <h4wk0> what did it say
[01:22] <wastedfluid> look like it installed osmetihng..
[01:22] <wastedfluid> something*
[01:22] <linxeh> rrmm: don't convert mp3 to ogg- but put any new files in ogg. alternatively, keep everything in mp3 format and actually be able to play them outside of your PC!
[01:22] <wastedfluid> bunch of /user/share
[01:22] <mirra> is there a way to use apt to install two mysql's..like a way to pass options so they are set up differently/
[01:22] <seedofc> crabgrass: sudo find / | grep "whateveryou'relookingfor"
[01:22] <rrmm> linxeh: i know what i want
[01:22] <seedofc> crabgrass: minus the quotes
[01:23] <crabgrass> seedofc: naturally... filenames work too?
[01:23] <seedofc> crabgrass: yess
[01:23] <default> crimsun:you mean the reposatory url?
[01:23] <dyrne> crabgrass: either locate filename or sudo find / -name something.mp3     where the / is /whetever/directory/to/start/at
[01:23] <Scunizi> crabgrass, seedofc .. you shouldn't need sudo should you?
[01:23] <rrmm> and i want to convert
[01:23] <stirt> man theres a shitload of people in here
[01:23] <EJL> "SCSI subsystem initialized" lockup anyone?
[01:23] <seedofc> Scunizi: nope
[01:23] <stirt> can anybody tell me how to delete this shitty os off my computer and put on windows?
[01:23] <Scunizi> seedofc, good that's what I thought...
[01:23] <crimsun> default: yes.
[01:23] <rrmm> linxeh: dont assume things, i want to convert
[01:23] <crabgrass> Scunizi, dyrne: got it, thanks... forgot that linux can pipe things, that's such an awesome yet simple feature
[01:23] <linxeh> rrmm: ok, then ogg is a more modern codec than mp3, it has a better perceptual model. it is also free. if you want the kde app then install it using apt-get and the system will install the kde libraries for you. I run gnome stuff on kde etc. you can also probably use "sox" to convert your files
[01:24] <seedofc> Scunizi: but you'll get errors if you're trying to access dirctories where you may not have read access (or list directory access), if i'm not mistaken
[01:24] <Flannel> stirt: just reinstall windows overtop of linux.  There's no "deleting" involved
[01:24] <linxeh> rrmm: sorry for trying to help.
[01:24] <italianninja2> ubuntu good for multimedia server?
[01:24] <stirt> somebody told me rm -rf /
[01:24] <wastedfluid> LOL
[01:24] <linxeh> rrmm: I'll remember nextime
[01:24] <Flannel> stirt: well, as long as you're not root, that's a fine command.
[01:24] <Scunizi> seedofc, you mean while looking in areas outside of "home"
[01:24] <stirt> but they said.. su before it
[01:24] <Flannel> stirt: it'll just give you an error.
[01:25] <Flannel> stirt: we don't use su.  And, you shouldn't listen to them anymore.
[01:25] <seedofc> Scunizi: correct, thus the "find /"
[01:25] <EJL> "SCSI subsystem initialized"?
[01:25] <stirt> lol i was only kidding, i thought it was based on linux?
[01:25] <Scunizi> seedofc, what does the / do?
[01:25] <rrmm> linxeh: its not in the repos smart one
[01:25] <seedofc> Scunizi: you're telling find to seach starting at the root of the filesystem, i.e. /
[01:26] <wastedfluid> h4wk0: Okay.  I did both updatedb.  deleted, and re-extracted gsynaptics.. but ./configure still says it can not find  libgnomeui-2.0
[01:26] <rrmm> what do people recommend for converting mp3 to ogg?
[01:26] <seedofc> Scunizi: for instance, in your case, find /home/scunizi | grep file.jpg
[01:26] <stirt> if I installed unbuntun ontop of windows, will the bootloader automatically kick in so i can choose from windows or unbuntu?
[01:26] <Scunizi> seedofc, * Scunizi hits forehead with palm of hand....OF COurse..
[01:26] <wastedfluid> stirt; Mine did.
[01:26] <bimberi> !info mp32ogg | rrmm
[01:26] <Flannel> stirt: yeah.  YOu'll be able to choose at boot
[01:26] <wastedfluid> Grubb automatically detected XP.
[01:26] <stirt> ahh thanks then
[01:26] <ubotu> rrmm: mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-8 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[01:26] <nixnoob> anyone know how i can install fluxbox ontop of my regular ubuntu install?
[01:26] <wastedfluid> Make sure to make unpartitioned hd space
[01:26] <stirt> is there another choice besidees grubb?
[01:26] <wastedfluid> and it should detect.
[01:26] <linxeh> rrmm: as I said, sox...
[01:26] <wastedfluid> sure there is
[01:27] <wastedfluid> there's a bunch of different boot loaders.. but why not just stick with grubb?
[01:27] <rrmm> linxeh: u said not to convert
[01:27] <linxeh> rrmm: yes, I wouldn't convert. I did say to use sox if you wanted to convert though
[01:27] <crabgrass> rm doesn't follow symbolic links by default... right?
[01:27] <rococo> thunderbar1, any luck?
[01:27] <dyrne> wastedfluid: id echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH and echo $LIBPATH im not too familiar with ubuntu but id do that then locate whateverlib to see if the path is there. maybe you mispelled
[01:27] <seedofc> nixnoob: I suppose you could install it and then edit your .xinitrc with a line that says "exec fluxbox"
[01:27] <seedofc> nixnoob: then restart x
[01:28] <bimberi> crabgrass: yes that's right, it just deletes the link
[01:28] <Flannel> stirt: lilo is one.  but really, grub is your best bet for most
[01:28] <seedofc> nixnoob: not sure how that affects gdm, xdm, kdm, etc
[01:28] <stirt> mehhh ok
[01:28] <default> crimsun: ok, i feel stupid , i can't get the url rite for reposatory
[01:28] <Scunizi> seedofc, why not just find /home/scunizi file.jpg .... why the grep.  ( I haven't used that command enough to know)
[01:28] <crabgrass> bimberi: thank god
[01:28] <michael__> can soemoen take a look at this apt error im gettingn, http://pastebin.ca/501281
[01:28] <nixnoob> seedofc, if it doesnt work i can always recovery and edit the file again right?
[01:28] <michael__> i dunno why its doin that
[01:28] <michael__> but maybe if I can stop it from trying to install the libsm6-dev package it will work
[01:29] <Beirdo> anyone here using xen on feisty?
[01:29] <sileni> hello, can someone help me
[01:29] <EJL> Is there another channel I can go to for some "SCSI subsystem initialized" install lockup help?
[01:29] <seedofc> Scunizi: I believe if you do that, it will just list every file it searches.  I believe the command "find" by default lists the directories it's searching be default
[01:29] <linxeh> michael__: have you tried an apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade?
[01:29] <Scunizi> sileni, just ask you question... don't ask to ask
[01:29] <michael__> linxeh, no ill try that
[01:29] <seedofc> Scunizi: so if you grep, you only display instances of what you're searching for
[01:29] <michael__> linxeh, how would i do a dist-upgrade?
[01:29] <crabgrass> okay, anyone experianced with setting up mpd?
[01:29] <linxeh> michael__: it might be you have some packages skewed or something
[01:29] <stirt> whats the default window handler, gnome?
[01:29] <Scunizi> seedofc, gotcha.. that's probably why I typically use locate
[01:30] <seedofc> nixnoob: yes, you don't even have to go into any "recovery" mode... just delete the .xinitrc
[01:30] <sileni> i installed ndiswrapper and got my wireless to work, but everytime i reboot it does not load ndiswrapper, i have to type depmod -a and modprobe ndiswrapper to start my wlan0. i even tried ndiswrapper -m but that is not working
[01:30] <Beirdo> when I added xen to one of my feisty boxes, I get absolutely spammed with  device-mapper: table: 254:7: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed on the console
[01:30] <linxeh> michael__: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:30] <michael__> thanks
[01:30] <Flannel> !anyone | crabgrass
[01:30] <ubotu> crabgrass: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:30] <dyrne> sileni: id add it to /etc/modules i guess
[01:30] <linxeh> michael__: be sure to do sudo apt-get update first though
[01:30] <michael__> okay
[01:30] <seedofc> nixnoob: if i'm not mistaken, the .xinitrc in your home directory does not exit.  You'll have to create it and add "exec fluxbox" (without the quotes).  The next time you startx, that should tell X to use fluxbox
[01:31] <linxeh> michael__: this will upgrade packages you have installed to the latest versions in the repositories. it is possible something is skewed I guess
[01:31] <Dark_Avenger> ll
[01:31] <linxeh> right, night all
[01:31] <wastedfluid> Okay; I pastebin'd my gsynaptic error.. maybe someone can help me. http://pastebin.ca/501285 I have libgnomeui-2.14.1, not libgnomeui-2.0
[01:31] <seedofc> nixnoob: again, I'm not sure if that overtakes GDM, which is your default GUI login manager.  You may have to /etc/init.d/gdm stop, and then do a manual startx to see fluxbox
[01:31] <Puppy_> Does anyone know if these files (I don't know what they are... files, programs...) come with Ubuntu 7.04? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21910/
[01:31] <crabgrass> hmm, alright, here's my problem. i can't start mpd because it's already running, but i can't stop it because it's not installed.
[01:31] <michael__> linxeh, http://pastebin.ca/501289
[01:32] <sileni> dyrne, would i just type ndiswrapper under /etc/modules?
[01:32] <linxeh> michael__: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:32] <seedofc> crabgrass: do a ps -aux in a terminal, find the offending pid, and do a kill -9 (pid)
[01:32] <Flannel> crabgrass: Its not installed?  then how is it runnign?  what errors do you get?  what does ps aux say?
[01:32] <michael__> linxeh, same error with that
[01:32] <default> crimsun: what am i doing wrong with reposatory url?
[01:32] <dyrne> sileni: yeah
[01:33] <linxeh> michael__: you might need to remove those packages it is complaining about too, and reinstall them I guess - apt-get remove packagename then apt-get clean
[01:33] <dyrne> sileni: just append it to the file
[01:33] <crimsun> default: what error are you getting?
[01:33] <wastedfluid> Okay; I pastebin'd my gsynaptic error.. maybe someone can help me. http://pastebin.ca/501285 I have libgnomeui-2.14.1, not libgnomeui-2.0
[01:33] <sileni> dyrne, can you teach me how to append :(
[01:33] <crabgrass> Flannel: that's what i want to know... ps aux says there's three instances running.
[01:33] <Iceman_B> okay so, where do I begin installing Beryl?
[01:33] <dyrne> sileni: i think.. ive never used it myself. thats just my way of saying type the module name in the file on its own line
[01:33] <seedofc> Iceman_B: search ubuntuguide.org
[01:34] <seedofc> Iceman_B: quick and supereasy instructions
[01:34] <sileni> dyrne, ok thank you
[01:34] <linxeh> Iceman_B: was kvirc any good to you ?/
[01:34] <Iceman_B> I hope so, cause I really broke things last time
[01:34] <sileni> sudo gedit /etc/modules.text
[01:34] <nexous> Hi, how do I install the pixmap engine and mist engine into Fiesty?
[01:34] <sileni> dam
[01:34] <Iceman_B> linx: still on my list
[01:34] <linxeh> Iceman_B: ah :)
[01:34] <Puppy_> So does anyone know if these files are installed in Ubuntu 7.04? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21910/
[01:34] <default> crimsun: I am here-http://www.alsa-project.org/download.php and i can't get any of these url's to work in my reposatory url space, where you add third party url's...
[01:34] <Iceman_B> definitely looks good
[01:34] <Iceman_B> I guess you didnt get my pm's as well
[01:34] <crimsun> default: no, those aren't apt repos.
[01:35] <stokeraground> evening all.  Looking for help with Frostwire after upgrade to Fiesty
[01:35] <linxeh> Iceman_B: no - are you registered on freenode?
[01:35] <Flannel> Puppy_: packages.ubuntu.com can get you all the versiony goodness
[01:35] <crimsun> default: please ensure that you have the following packages installed: build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), autoconf, automake1.7, libtool, mercurial
[01:35] <Puppy_> Fannel: Thanks! :)
[01:35] <Iceman_B> I *think* so
[01:35] <MSG4> Does anyone here own a Asus laptop??
[01:35] <linxeh> Iceman_B: you need to login to nickserv to be able to send priv messages iirc
[01:36] <Iceman_B> yeh, and yeh
[01:36] <Iceman_B> I didnt know this was freenode heh
[01:36] <wastedfluid> sweet.  installing libgnomeui-2.0-dev was the solution
[01:36] <variant> does feisty still create a .trash on removable media?
[01:37] <default> crimsun: do i just search for them in add remove ,,or reposatory?
[01:37] <Tarkus> does anyone know of a company that sells notebooks with linux instead of windows? i hate having to pay for windows even if your never going to use it.
[01:37] <puff> Tarkus: Dell is working on that.
[01:37] <seedofc> Tarkus: search google for linux laptops
[01:37] <stokeraground> Here are the details: http://www.frostwire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1554
[01:37] <puff> Tarkus: Michael Dell runs ubuntu on his laptop.
[01:37] <Tarkus> i like hp the best, and i know they support open-source. although i cant seem to find any systems they sell with linux (notebooks)
[01:37] <variant> Tarkus: sagernotebook.. just ask them in your order to leave the disk blank and you will get a 75 dolalr rebate
[01:38] <Flannel> Tarkus: system76
[01:38] <default> <<sighes
[01:38] <puff> I recently upgraded to feisty, and my mouse scroll-wheel stopped working.  I'm finding this surprisingly annoying.
[01:38] <crabgrass> are there any benefits to installing things from source versus using synaptec?
[01:38] <Tarkus> puff, alright, well im not planning to get a notebook soon, in about 6 months or so. so i might buy from dell if they sell ubuntu with their notebooks by then.
[01:39] <variant> anyway, has anyone noticed if usb keys get .trash folders made on them in feisty?
[01:39] <nickrud> crabgrass, in general, it's more beneficial to use synaptic
[01:39] <wastedfluid> OK; this should be an easy one.. GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics ...
[01:39] <Flannel> crabgrass: package management is much better than source.  the good things far outweight the benefits of source compiling
[01:39] <puff> crabgrass: Generally no.  There are proponents of installing from source, but AFAIK they are'nt into ubuntu.
[01:39] <etplayer> Is there an Enemy Territory package for Ubuntu? I can't find one and I've searched pretty thoroughly with apt-cache.
[01:39] <Flannel> default: Use synaptic, not add/remove.  Add/remove has but a fraction of the stuff in the repository
[01:39] <nexous> I installed mist and pixmap engines in synaptic, but when I drag the zip and bz2 files into themes, it says invalid format
[01:39] <crabgrass> i see. thanks
[01:39] <Flannel> etplayer: Check the forums (ubuntuforums.org), theres a bunch of guides on ET
[01:39] <puff> crabgrass: Using ubuntu's configuration management system is, IMHO, more than half the reason to use ubuntu.
[01:40] <nickrud> wastedfluid, add Option "SHMConfig" "On" to the synaptics section of /etc/X11/xorg.cof
[01:40] <dyrne> etplayer: i dont think so. i know it wouldnt make it into official repos
[01:40] <crabgrass> puff: heh, true.
[01:40] <wastedfluid> k; hold on
[01:40] <dyrne> etplayer: not hard to install and there is tremulous in the repos
[01:40] <kbrooks> ther is no xf86 in ubuntu now wastedfluid
[01:40] <nickrud> wastedfluid, then you'll need to log out, hit ctl-alt-backspace and log back in (may be overkill, but it works every time)
[01:41] <puff> Anybody know how to get my mouse scroll wheel working again?
[01:41] <nexous> I installed mist and pixmap engines in synaptic, but when I drag the zip and bz2 files into themes, it says invalid format
[01:41] <variant> crabgrass: certain things do provide significant performance improvments when optimised for your cpu (mplayer for example uses runtime cpu detection in pre compiled binaries, hd movies can be choppy etc but if you compile it from source there is a vast improvement) but generaly on modern fast computers there is not real need
[01:41] <s> How can I actualy complete changing of my hostname after that I changed it in hosts file?
[01:41] <rollerskatejamms> whoops
[01:41] <crabgrass> whoa
[01:41] <michael__> linxeh, i fixed the apt-get error, but now i get this error, http://pastebin.ca/501307
[01:41] <s> How can I actualy complete changing of my hostname after that I changed it in hosts file?
[01:41] <LjL> !netsplit
[01:41] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:41] <variant> s: /etc/init.d/hostname restart
[01:41] <dyrne> puff: either edit xorg.conf with the zaxis thing or just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:41] <crabgrass> LjL: thanks, was wondering what that was
[01:42] <jrib> !hostname > s (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:42] <kbrooks> ljl:  why say !netsplit when there is a netsplit?
[01:42] <puff> dyrne: Thanks, I'll try the reconfigure route.
[01:42] <LjL> kbrooks: uhm... see crabgrass above?
[01:42] <h4wk0> so people dont ask stupid questions
[01:42] <crabgrass> kbrooks: so people like me don't get paranoid and begin to expect to hear the feds knocking
[01:43] <puff> dyrne: Hm, is this a safe thing to do?
[01:43] <default> crimsun: can you email me the list it disapeared in chat?
[01:43] <wastedfluid> nickrud:
[01:44] <s> variant: I haven't hostname command in etc/init.d/
[01:44] <wastedfluid> It says I don't have permission to edit xorg; it's read only.
[01:44] <dyrne> puff: well i prefer to edit one part of the file but the reconfigure is the standard recomendation here
[01:44] <crabgrass> wastedfluid: did you sudo or gksudo?
[01:44] <variant> !hostname | s
[01:44] <ubotu> s: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[01:44] <wastedfluid> i'll sudo
[01:44] <seedofc> wastedfluid: sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:44] <nickrud> wastedfluid, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf; but first do cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf to the Desktop
[01:44] <seedofc> oops
[01:44] <puff> Harrum.... my invoice from IBM when I bought this laptop says it's ATI MOBILITY FIRE GL V3200 - 128 MB, but reconfigure's auto-detection says ATI Technologies Inc M24 1T [FireGL M24 GL] _
[01:45] <default> crimsun: my email is scoobydoo28139@gmail.com
[01:45] <nickrud> wastedfluid, backup before editing, always :)
[01:45] <crabgrass> puff: afaik m24 is the gpu chipset
[01:45] <puff> crabgrass: Ah...
[01:45] <default> crimsun: do i owe you anything for helping me?
[01:45] <dyrne> im his accountant. we take paypal
[01:46] <s> variant what's mean of !command????
[01:46] <wastedfluid> ok; SHMConfig option is set to "On"
[01:46] <yuno> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me out with a problem with my ATI x1300? If i enabled the "ATI accelerated graphic driver" X-Sever crashes on reboot.
[01:46] <wastedfluid> Now log off, and do what?
[01:46] <wastedfluid> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:46] <default> what was the last three things crimsun wanted me to ,make sure i had?
[01:46] <nickrud> wastedfluid, yes
[01:46] <wastedfluid> ok, brb
[01:47] <benjyamon> say, i have ubuntu running on my titanium powerbook g4, sort of made it thru an upgrade, but wanted to reinstall fresh -- thing is, i find only other hardware architectures avail for d/l
[01:47] <crabgrass> yuno: what does x say? does it error out or just not go?
[01:47] <pianoboy3333> My friend is trying to mount his windows drive, but is unable to do it, he can not find a gui to do it, and doing good ol' sudo mount /dev/<device> /media/<dir> says the drive is busy, but he can't think of anything that could be using it, he tried killing nautilus, and he tried rebooting... still no luck... any ideas?
[01:47] <benjyamon> does anybody know the dealio with ubunto on ppc?
[01:47] <benjyamon> are they still supporting?
[01:47] <s> variant when I try to run it, it fires a command not found...
[01:47] <jrib> pianoboy3333: does "mount" list the drive?
[01:47] <yuno> X-Server has failed to start would you like to see a log
[01:47] <yuno> or something like that
[01:48] <jrib> !ppc > benjyamon (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:48] <pianoboy3333> jrib: no it doesn't
[01:48] <violot> There isn't a package for the vim kpart is there?
[01:48] <puff> Anybody remember the name of the thinkpad channel?
[01:48] <default> crimsun: can you email me the list of stuff???
[01:48] <puff> Ah, #ibmthinkpad.
[01:48] <jrib> pianoboy3333: can you get him to pastebin the full error message?  Why doesn't he just join the channel?
[01:48] <yuno> sorry if i am not being too specific
[01:49] <pianoboy3333> jrib: nm, he got it, he was doing /dev/hdb instead of /devv/hdb1
[01:50] <crabgrass> !cron
[01:50] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[01:50] <crabgrass> !thanks ubotu
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <crabgrass> =(
[01:50] <Slart> !botsnack
[01:50] <xtknight> !thanks | crabgrass
[01:50] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:50] <ubotu> crabgrass: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:50] <ablyss> hey guys.. is it normal for the cups printing system to be so unearthly slow when spooling graphics ?
[01:50] <the_ccvp> Do not fret because of evil men or be envious of those who do wrong for like the grass they will soon wither, like green plants they will soon die away.
[01:50] <the_ccvp> For evil men will be cut off, but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land. A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found
[01:50] <the_ccvp> The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.
[01:51] <crabgrass> !offtopic | the_ccvp
[01:51] <ubotu> the_ccvp: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:51] <xtknight> ablyss, yea, especially if your printer doesnt support PCL or postscript
[01:51] <pete> hey does anybody here play partypoker or fulltilt poker on nix??
[01:51] <crabgrass> thanks, xtknight
[01:51] <pete> cant get those to work thru wine..
[01:51] <ablyss> xtknight, i just bought this laser printer.. its brand new though
[01:51] <dyrne> its like standing on a street corner in New York..
[01:51] <crabgrass> dyrne: or west hollywood
[01:51] <CVD> hey there newbie in here
[01:52] <xtknight> !ask
[01:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:52] <dave132> warning!!! "murder in iraq" youtube video completely crashed my firefox browser, crash persisted through restart, had to uninstall and reinstall firefox package.
[01:52] <jrib> CVD: welcome
[01:52] <ablyss> would it be better to use usb printer cable ? would it make that much of a difference in speed ?
[01:52] <Ram0n> hi
[01:52] <xtknight> ablyss, nope
[01:52] <xtknight> ablyss, doubtful.
[01:52] <ablyss> i didn' think so
[01:52] <GenNMX> What's a good raid controller for an Ubuntu server used at home?
[01:52] <savvas> how do i know if my wireless usb adapter is detected and working?
[01:52] <Ram0n> anyone know splashutils package for ubuntu?
[01:52] <wastedfluid> Now another question; my touchpad still is going nuts.  When I touch it to move my mouse, it acts as if I clicked, and I'm trying to highlight stuff.. or select multiple files.  It won't just let me move the cursor.. it mistakes me touching my touchpad to move my cursor as a click; Gsynaptics settings didn't really effect it; any idea?
[01:52] <xtknight> ablyss, the processing time is due to your cpu sending cmds to the printer whether it be usb or parallel
[01:52] <kazol> How do I switch the text into buttons in Open Office?
[01:52] <crabgrass> savvas: well, you're online right now, so i'd say it's working
[01:52] <GenNMX> savvas: Try dmesg | grep wireless, see if that gets any results
[01:52] <kazol> I want it to be like Microsoft Office.
[01:53] <GenNMX> savvas: Otherwise, try dmesg | grep usb
[01:53] <CVD> I Ask questioen here or in the ubuntuforums?
[01:53] <xtknight> CVD, here
[01:53] <guilux> quit
[01:53] <jarrod> Question: what is needed to install wine. directories, files, DOS???
[01:53] <nickrud> wastedfluid, back to my original one: I set option TouchpadOff to 2, it killed it all :)
[01:53] <ablyss> xtknight, it has to be the cups driver... i mean 10 years ago I was spooling out graphics on the blink w/ a 550mhz cpu
[01:53] <yuno> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me out with a problem with my ATI x1300? If i enabled the "ATI accelerated graphic driver" X-Sever crashes on reboot.
[01:53] <wastedfluid> It killed the entire touchpad?
[01:53] <LjL> !wine > jarrod    (jarrod, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:53] <xtknight> ablyss, ahh well it probably is.  it could be that the linux one is unaccelerated
[01:53] <default> is crimsun still here?????
[01:53] <wastedfluid> Oh snap.  So I can disable the touchpad "clicking" and just use the buttons?
[01:53] <jarrod> !wine
[01:53] <dyrne> jarrod: sudo apt-get install wine;winecfg  thats it
[01:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:53] <savvas> crabgrass: i don't have a wireless access point yet, but i'd like to see if ubuntu identifies it
[01:54] <wastedfluid> nickrud; sweet.  Tell me how to disable the touchpad clicking, because it's really getting annoying :D
[01:54] <nickrud> wastedfluid, no, I still had mouse control, that turned off the touching being interpreted as mouse clicks
[01:54] <crabgrass> savvas: use a neighbors?
[01:54] <kazol> Is there an Open Office IRC channel?
[01:54] <jarrod> dyrne: really? thanks
[01:54] <jrib> !openoffice > kazol (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:54] <ablyss> xtknight, i hear the compannion cd from cups ( $24 usd ) is worth it.. maybe worth a shot if my spooling needs grow
[01:54] <LjL> kazol: #users.openoffice.org if memory doesn't fail..
[01:54] <CVD> cuz flah video dont have sound in firefox, and i do the "aoss"but stil the same   ; 7.04
[01:54] <wastedfluid> ah; there's no way to disable "tapping" - and just having to click left and right mouse buttons under my touchpad?
[01:54] <nickrud> wastedfluid, Option "TouchpadOff" 2
 who plays online poker here? i cant get partypoker or fulltilt to work on my lappy...
[01:54] <xtknight> ablyss, hm companion cd?  what is it, where do you get that?
[01:54] <wastedfluid> Will that completely disable the touchpad? (as in you can't use it to move your cursor)
[01:54] <crabgrass> savvas: you could also check system >> networking tools to see if it's listed
[01:54] <wastedfluid> because I don't have an additional mouse
[01:54] <ablyss> xtknight, off the cups website
[01:55] <nickrud> wastedfluid, no, see man synaptics: it'll explain
[01:55] <ablyss> brb, dinner
[01:55] <crabgrass> pete: know what they run off of? if it's flash, just install flash, but if it's shockwave you're sol afaik
[01:55] <wastedfluid> ok; let me do that right now.  Option "TouchpadOff" 2 ?
[01:55] <nickrud> wastedfluid, I have to go, I'll miss my carpool
[01:55] <christoffersenb_> hey
[01:55] <crampSTAR> Hello
[01:55] <christoffersenb_> WHO R U PEOPLE!
[01:55] <nickrud> wastedfluid, one sec
[01:55] <crampSTAR> hey!
[01:56] <crabgrass> !hi | christoffersenb_:
[01:56] <ubotu> christoffersenb_:: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:56] <crampSTAR> Bree ur a hot bitch
[01:56] <nickrud> yes
[01:56] <nickrud> wastedfluid, yes
[01:56] <xtknight> !language
[01:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:56] <wastedfluid> okay..
[01:56] <wastedfluid> Hold on.
[01:56] <nickrud> wastedfluid, I'm off, I'll be back 9am pst
[01:56] <crampSTAR> hahaha
[01:56] <savvas> GenNMX: thanks, i think it's ok: http://www.pastebin.ca/501325 < does this mean my wireless usb adapter is connected and working ok?
[01:56] <crampSTAR> sorry
[01:56] <pete> crabgrass: any ideas how to install active x capabilities for wine?
[01:56] <BREEZA> Heyhey
[01:56] <crampSTAR> why is there so many people on here?
[01:57] <BREEZA> CRAMPY!!
[01:57] <crampSTAR> BREEEEEEE
[01:57] <GenNMX> savvas: After you connect it, you'll need to set it up of course, if you want it connected to a wireless AP.
[01:57] <crampSTAR> ur back
[01:57] <xtknight> pete, dcom98.exe probably
[01:57] <Gnea> crampSTAR: because they all joined.
[01:57] <BREEZA> so where is everyone from??
[01:57] <ColdBeer> hey can i run a mail server if im using a dynamic dns?
[01:57] <CVD> After following the instruction to make flash sound work ubuntuforums etc.., flas still dont have sound, another advie?
[01:57] <jarrod> is wine the best emulator would you gurus say?
[01:57] <savvas> GenNMX: how do i set it up? :\ any wikis?
[01:58] <Subhuman> jarrod, for running win32 apps wine is the ONLY app to do it
[01:58] <xtknight> jarrod, best emulator-like thing, easily.  but there are also virtual machines
[01:58] <Flannel> jarrod: wine isn't an emulator, but it does its job rather well. yes
[01:58] <yuno> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me out with a problem with my ATI x1300? If i enabled the "ATI accelerated graphic driver" X-Sever crashes on reboot.
[01:58] <xtknight> virtual machines 'emulate' perfectly
[01:58] <kazol> ColdBeer: yes, just with extra applications and services.
[01:58] <Subhuman> that and crossover and cedega - which both work off wine.
[01:58] <Gnea> jarrod: it depends what you want to run with it
[01:58] <kazol> ColdBeer: they dynamic IP is the easy part.
[01:58] <CVD> any forefox tweaker here?
[01:58] <kazol> ColdBeer: other mail services blocking your IP *is* a problem.
[01:58] <xtknight> CVD, grab fasterfox extension it's really all yo uneed
[01:58] <kazol> ColdBeer: But you can overcome it.
[01:59] <Gnea> CVD: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[01:59] <xtknight> swiftfox is poopoo
[01:59] <nol13> hi, my cpu usage is at 100% and i didnt have anything running, (ok now xchat is running)  how do i find out what is using up my cpu? something running in background? or something stuck in a loop?
[01:59] <savvas> GenNMX: how do i set it up? :\ any wikis?
[01:59] <Gnea> nol13: top
[01:59] <xtknight> nol13, type 'top' in the terminal to determine cpu usage
[01:59] <GenNMX> savvas: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+usb+wireless+howto&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[01:59] <wastedfluid> nickrud: Wow!
[01:59] <wastedfluid> That totally fixed my problem.
[01:59] <Beirdo> OK, I think I found my problem.  a LONG time ago I'd put "alias dm-linear off" in /etc/modprobe.d/local
[02:00] <Beirdo> that could be an issue :)
[02:00] <wastedfluid> I'm not even kidding.. nickrud, ty you so much man.. lol, that was a lot easier then installing gsynaptic.
[02:00] <jarrod> xtknight, can u explain the differance between wine and Virtual machinces
[02:00] <xtknight> Beirdo, what was your problem?
[02:00] <xtknight> jarrod, sure
[02:00] <Beirdo> when I added xen to one of my feisty boxes, I get absolutely spammed with  device-mapper: table: 254:7: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed on the console
[02:00] <nol13> 79% gnome-cups icon, usually i idle a 0%
[02:00] <xtknight> jarrod, wine contains open source equivalents of windows libraries, or it works off windows x32 or x64 binaries to try and run a Win32 Application in a linux environment
[02:00] <nol13> what does that mean?
[02:00] <recon> Does anybody know how to get rid of this "phantom data" on my USB drive? The only way I can find to get rid of it is to reformat it.
[02:01] <xtknight> jarrod, virtual machines virtualize , or simulate, a real computer and intercept all the calls to make it appear as a real computer.
[02:01] <Beirdo> xtknight, not surprised it couldn't find it when I had it specifically disabled for other reasons that aren't valid anymore
[02:01] <foso> hey all, trying to install gizmod, extracted the tarball, now what do i do? im a noob, but know how to open a terminal
[02:01] <xtknight> jarrod, you install windows on a virtual machine the exact same way you install windows on a PC.  a vitrual machine is a mini IBM pc with its own BIOS and (virtual) hard disk file
[02:01] <scoobydoo28139> does anyone have a log of this chat???
[02:01] <rococo> jarrod, in other words, wine is an emulator (despite what it claims! heh) and a virtual machine is.. well, just that, a virtual machine
[02:01] <Iceman_B> whoever was it that recommended kvirc just now ?
[02:01] <LjL> !logs > scoobydoo28139    (scoobydoo28139, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:02] <scoobydoo28139> I need the list that crimsun gave to default
[02:02] <Flannel> !compile | foso
[02:02] <ubotu> foso: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
 okay that makes sense
[02:02] <Flannel> !away > nekton[A] 
[02:02] <xtknight> jarrod, VMWare 6 is the most popular virtual machine, though there is also VirtualBox (free and GPL version)
[02:02] <xtknight> i prefer VMware myself, i've found that to be the fastest through heavy experimentation ..
[02:02] <CVD> ok, youtube with-out sound here we go...
[02:02] <scoobydoo28139> ljl: will that be there ya think?
[02:02] <yuno> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me out with a problem with my ATI x1300? If i enabled the "ATI accelerated graphic driver" X-Sever crashes on reboot.
[02:03] <sonictwin> what is the website for dvd codecs?
[02:03] <yuno> sorry if i am not being too specific
[02:03] <foso> thanks
 thanks, for explaining it to me. It really helps
[02:03] <xtknight> !dvd | sonictwin
[02:03] <ubotu> sonictwin: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:03] <xtknight> !seveas | sonictwin
[02:03] <ubotu> sonictwin: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:03] <nol13> is gnome-cups-icon supposed to be using up 80% of my cpu time? also when i try to update clamav i cant update becauuse it says my version is out of date, but its the newest one in the repository?
[02:03] <CaptainOblivious> alright, how do i switch servers on this client, im tryin to get to zirc.org
[02:03] <LjL> scoobydoo28139: if not right now, in a dozen of minutes
[02:03] <foso> how do i check to see if its checking all the repositories?
[02:03] <xtknight> jarrod, no problem.  i run a VM everyday and that's really my area of expertise ;P
[02:03] <xtknight> foso, what is checking the repositories for what?
[02:03] <hendaus> helpers, i want to upgrade from dapper to edgy, thanx
[02:03] <nol13> now 95%
[02:04] <scoobydoo28139> ljl: lol ok i was just looking for the info that was given to default
[02:04] <xtknight> !upgrade
[02:04] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:04] <Pokit> every time i try to copy files into system folders it gives me a "You do not have permissions to write to this folder." error
[02:04] <Pokit> how can i fix this
[02:04] <xtknight> Pokit, what do you need to copy into a system folder?
[02:04] <hendaus> xtknight:  kubuntu??
[02:04] <xtknight> hendaus, what about it?
[02:04] <Pokit> well im not sure its a system folder
[02:04] <Pokit> im trying to copy a GTK theme into /usr/share/themes
[02:04] <Pokit> and it wont let me
[02:04] <rococo> yuno, are you enabling it using a tool in the GUI or in xorg.conf?
[02:04] <xtknight> Pokit, okay.  the user equivalent to which you have full write permissions is ~/.themes/
[02:05] <xtknight> Pokit, though copying it to /usr/share/themes is a better idea.
[02:05] <hendaus> xtknight: i have kubuntu and i want to upgrade edgy? can u help me thanx
[02:05] <xtknight> Pokit, you can so it using the `sudo` command.
[02:05] <Pokit> ok
[02:05] <nol13> ok, can i kill gnome-cups icon withouut fucking shit up? thanks
[02:05] <xtknight> hendaus, try #kubuntu
[02:05] <Pokit> i tried physically dragging the folder into there and it gave me that msg
[02:05] <xtknight> lol
[02:05] <wastedfluid> Okay; so this is problem a dumb question.  but I copied about 3,000 mp3s over from an iPod I used as "data" - and I can't get any music player to play them in Ubuntu; do you have to convert them to .oGG?
[02:05] <foso> uboto told me that not all repositories are enabled, im trying to install gizmod, i extracted a tarball , now i am trying to find out what to do
[02:05] <hendaus> xtknight:  no one answering :(
[02:05] <PriceChild> foso, gizmod isn't in ubuntu
[02:05] <LjL> !language | nol13
[02:05] <Gnea> !language | nol13
[02:05] <ubotu> nol13: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:06] <yuno> it annoying that i can't watch .AVI's
[02:06] <Pokit> xtknight, do i just type cp filename /destination ?
[02:06] <PriceChild> foso, funnily enough... I'm currently packaging it ready for gutsy
[02:06] <xtknight> Pokit, 'sudo cp filename /destination'
[02:06] <Pokit> is that how i copy
[02:06] <Pokit> ok
[02:06] <rococo> wastedfluid: make sure you have the gstreamer with mp3 in its name installed - one sec, I'll find the specific name for you
[02:06] <xtknight> to /usr/share..
[02:06] <PriceChild> foso, are you on x86 or 64bit?
[02:06] <wastedfluid> roco; i'll look for it on synaptic
[02:06] <xtknight> gizmod is not in any repository
[02:06] <foso> i dont know....
[02:06] <Beirdo> argh
[02:06] <foso> im new to this
[02:06] <xtknight> no official one rather
[02:06] <rococo> wastedfluid: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 - it'll be on there ;-)
[02:06] <Beirdo> this machine is mounting filesystems on boot that don't show in mount or df
[02:06] <PriceChild> xtknight, I'll make sure its in gutsy ;)
[02:06] <wastedfluid> ok, hold on
[02:07] <Beirdo> but are definitely mounted
[02:07] <xtknight> PriceChild, eh what is GizMod?
[02:07] <PriceChild> xtknight, gizmode.sourceforge.net
[02:07] <foso> its not in ubuntu, but can i install it?
[02:07] <PriceChild> foso, yeah course
[02:07] <foso> ok
[02:07] <xtknight> o hweird
[02:07] <foso> i dont know these things sorry
[02:07] <wastedfluid> rococo; so there's NO way to relaly replicate the iTunes .. so every time I want to update my ipod, i have to boot into xp?
[02:07] <PriceChild> foso, easiest way is to download the source from sourceforge, them compile it yourself...
[02:07] <xtknight> foso, yup you usually can if there is a generic Linux source package for it
[02:07] <yuno> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me out with a problem with my ATI x1300? If i enabled the "ATI accelerated graphic driver" X-Server crashes on reboot.
[02:07] <rococo> yuno: again, how did you try to enable it? by editing xorg.conf or with a tool in the GUI?
[02:07] <xtknight> or you might be able to find ubuntu packages online
[02:08] <PriceChild> foso, or you could use my source packages to build a deb from...
[02:08] <xtknight> if they aren't in the official repositories
[02:08] <scoobydoo28139> ljl: i still got no sound
[02:08] <foso> i honestly have no idea how to do that
[02:08] <PriceChild> foso, I would build you a deb but I haven't got a feisty machine sorry
[02:08] <foso> thanks anyway
[02:08] <xtknight> i can perhaps
[02:08] <xtknight> foso, i386?
[02:08] <rococo> wastedfluid: I update my itunes using an awesome media program called banshee. you can also do it with amarok and rhythmbox
[02:08] <sonictwin> thanks guys!
[02:08] <foso> how do i tell?
[02:08] <xtknight> foso, type 'uname -a'
[02:08] <wastedfluid> I have all three of those, rococo
[02:08] <rococo> wastedfluid: or rather, my ipod. I don't use itunes
[02:08] <wastedfluid> but none of them support mp3s
[02:08] <PriceChild> xtknight, if you want to... then use my source
[02:08] <xtknight> PriceChild, url?
[02:08] <gluttony> what is my installer not letting me select a mount point?
[02:09] <foso> i686
[02:09] <xtknight> foso, okay good
[02:09] <wastedfluid> k, i installed gstreamer
[02:09] <PriceChild> xtknight, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5226
[02:09] <foso> i really want to learn, i have only been at it about a month or so
[02:09] <rococo> wastedfluid: they will once you install that gstreamer thingy. if that still doesn't work, also install lame (I think it's in multiverse)
[02:10] <wastedfluid> okay; hold on
[02:10] <wastedfluid> Let me try to play in amarok
[02:10] <rococo> wastedfluid: but try that mp3 gstreamer thing first. restart your media programs and give it a shot
[02:10] <PriceChild> xtknight, that packaging should be fine... it just doesn't work on 64bit yet.
[02:10] <xtknight> PriceChild, okay
[02:10] <CVD> Hey one question thats i hate about gnome.. Why the hell gnome show all the long name of folders and files no matter how long they are, i hate this cuz the arrangemnet fu*ked up
[02:11] <wastedfluid> rococo:  ever used JuK?
[02:11] <wastedfluid> or gtkpod? gtkpod is the one everyone recommends.. you like banshee bette though?
[02:11] <foso> so what do i do?
[02:11] <foso> the steps on that link someone sent?
[02:12] <ingrix> Hi.  I've been having a bit of a problem installing Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop (Gateway MX6448).  It installs fine and everything, but on bootup if there is a mouse/keyboard in the USB ports, it hands on loading the USB HID driver.  If I don't do that, it hangs on waiting for the root filesystem.  Anything that seems apparently obviously out of place here or anything?
[02:12] <scoobydoo28139> crimsun: thanks for the help, going to re-start now see if it works
[02:12] <m1r> hi all
[02:12] <rococo> wastedfluid: I've used gtkpod. I like banshee better because I can just play with my music library and then sync it to the ipod, or jsut click and drag, rather than having to go in every time and explicitly throw stuff on my ipod
[02:12] <BENN92647> hi everyone, I need help seems no matter what I do fiesty wont recognize my soundcard
[02:12] <scoobydoo28139> ljl: thank you also
[02:12] <rococo> wastedfluid: gtkpod is nice and all, but doing it in banshee (or whatever) skips an extra step
[02:12] <PriceChild> foso, bear with me...
[02:12] <wastedfluid> Okay; let me download banshee
[02:12] <CVD> any way to make gnome behave the names like in windows?
[02:12] <xtknight> PriceChild, can you refresh me on how to build the debian pkg with those files?
[02:12] <PurpZeY> BENN: Did you search the forums?
[02:12] <m1r> i installed "hibernation and wmshutdown" package , now system wont go to hibernate at all
[02:12] <m1r> any help ?
[02:12] <rococo> wastedfluid: banshee is pretty much the same thing as amarok, only it runs way faster in gnome and in my experience it has better ipod support
[02:12] <foso> ok, sorry, i missed whats going on i guess
[02:13] <PriceChild> xtknight, i have a better idea... will do it now
[02:13] <PriceChild> foso, I'm gonna build you some debs
[02:13] <xtknight> dpkg-buildpackage -uc?
[02:13] <foso> awesome
[02:13] <wastedfluid> sweet deal
[02:13] <wastedfluid> I'm downloading it now
[02:13] <BENN92647> purpzey: this is usually the first place i go, forums take days to get answers from.
[02:13] <|_ocke> hey, i just installed a new HD and made a new (much larger) swap apartitonj on it
[02:13] <ingrix> Or is there any possible solution?
[02:13] <|_ocke> i want to use the new swap instead of the old one
[02:13] <m1r> !hibernate
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <|_ocke> can someone point me to some instructions
[02:13] <PurpZeY> BENN: Yes, but you should search the forums to see if anyone had the issue you are having.
[02:13] <jaevel> can someone point me in the right direction to recompile my kernel to the right nvidia driver for my system? im trying to get my system back to the 9631 nvidia driver
[02:13] <|_ocke> i cant seem to find it with google
[02:14] <|_ocke> well, without reading 100 pages
[02:14] <PurpZeY> m1r: This is just what I've experienced...I've found that hibernating isn't any faster than turning off and back on...and from what I read in here a lot of people have trouble with suspend.
[02:14] <ColdBeer> hey can i run a mail server if im using a dynamic dns?
[02:14] <wastedfluid> Okay.. here's a basic question.  I have three programs I want to add to auto startup.. how do I go about doing that?
[02:14] <alvins> hi
[02:14] <|_ocke> ColdBeer, technically, yes
[02:14] <|_ocke> but optimally, no
[02:14] <Scunizi> ColdBeer, why not?
[02:14] <m1r> puprzey , on 6.10 hibernate was working like a charm
[02:14] <PurpZeY> wastedfluid: system-->prefs-->Session
[02:15] <|_ocke> you can use dyndns or something
[02:15] <BENN92647> purpzey, it's been off and on with Linux Edgy and now fiesty...I am thinking its a generic problem.. I will search forum but if you know a quick solution tell me please
[02:15] <|_ocke> but you're way better off with a static ip
[02:15] <PurpZeY> m1r: I honestly don't know.
[02:15] <PriceChild> foso, Give me 10... 15 minutes
[02:15] <foso> ok
[02:15] <m1r> ok :)
[02:15] <PurpZeY> m1r: I just see people in here several times a day with that issue.
[02:15] <juice`> when i try to watch movies using vlc or totem or xine, i clearly see pixels when i select fullscreen. output goes on TV, but it was not like that on windows. any idea what could be the reason ? i use fglrx drivers for ATI
[02:15] <|_ocke> plus most dynamic ip setups have less than desirable bandwidth on the upstraem
[02:15] <PurpZeY> BENN: I don't...but often with hardware, someone already had this issue and there is a fix.
[02:15] <m1r> yes, 7.04 got somthing messed up with it :/
[02:15] <foso> one more question, does it display your name when i click on your name first?
[02:15] <ColdBeer> so lets say i have a dynamic dns of  user.homeip.net , can i make unlimited email address with like user1.. user2.. user3..   user4@user.homeip.net?
[02:16] <PriceChild> foso, > pm
[02:16] <PriceChild> foso, nope
[02:16] <|_ocke> so.. any ideas how i switch swap from /dev/hda5 to /dev/hdb5?
[02:17] <rococo> foso: run "glxinfo|grep rendering" in a terminal and see it's enabled
[02:17] <davef> |_ocke: edit /etc/fstab
[02:17] <m1r> seems strange , but after instaled "hibernate and wmshutdown" , pc wont even consider going down
[02:17] <tim167> how do i start Remote Desktop from the terminal ?
[02:17] <m1r> just return me to login
[02:17] <BENN92647> ok I can't find anything that tells me what to do just stuff about how to play music..I need help Fiesty wont play music or rsound from anything at all
[02:17] <|_ocke> ah. k
[02:17] <|_ocke> should have thought of that :P
[02:18] <yuno> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me out with a problem with my ATI x1300? If i enabled the "ATI accelerated graphic driver" X-Server crashes on reboot.
[02:18] <davef> |_ocke: Is it feisty?
[02:18] <|_ocke> no, edgy
[02:18] <rococo> yuno: once again, how are you enabling it? in xorg.conf or with a tool in the GUI? You keep missing my responses ;-)
[02:18] <misheh1> /ns info mishehu
[02:18] <yuno> oh sorry
[02:19] <|_ocke> # /dev/hda5
[02:19] <|_ocke> UUID=72f255b7-4c87-46f7-b763-fabc7f94e589 none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:19] <foso> rococo it says no
[02:19] <yuno> im really not sure
[02:19] <davef> |_ocke: sudo vol_id /dev/hdb5
[02:19] <|_ocke> is the current entry
[02:19] <|_ocke> k
[02:19] <yuno> i think xorg.conf
[02:19] <rococo> yuno: I mean, what did you do to try and enable it that made it crash?
[02:19] <wastedfluid> rococo: it worked.  banshee looks great.
[02:19] <wastedfluid> If I sync my ipod now - will it corrupt the iPod?
[02:19] <yuno> oh
[02:19] <rococo> foso: I think that's your problem
[02:19] <|_ocke> jsut replace the UUID in that line?
[02:19] <yuno> i enabled it in the GUI
[02:20] <BENN92647> can someone help me?  I have had problems for the last 3 months first with Edgy then with Fiesty. Edgy kept losing the info on my sound card and disconnecting from it now fiesty cant even find it..please help
[02:20] <rococo> wastedfluid: I'm pretty sure there's a risk, but it hasn't happened to me
[02:20] <wastedfluid> I use my ipod to connect to my dvd player in my car.. so I'm assuming Banshee won't corrupt it?
[02:20] <rococo> wastedfluid: can never hurt to hae backups, though
[02:20] <davef> |_ocke: yeah, and change the comment above it so you don't confuse yourself later.  Oh, and 'sudo mkswap /dev/hdb5'
[02:20] <foso> rococo: that will make it check all the repositories?
[02:21] <|_ocke> oh i already changed the comment :)
[02:21] <rococo> yuno: okay. what driver does it say you have right now?
[02:21] <|_ocke> cool, does it affect me if im running x currently
[02:21] <|_ocke> or can it be done onthefly
[02:21] <trix`G> what is the name of the 'apt-get' package that houses the current nvidia drivers for a newer model geforce?
[02:21] <davef> |_ocke: After that, a 'sudo swapoff -a' followed by 'sudo swapon -a' should have you switched over.  Unless you're currently swapping, it will be smooth as cream.
[02:21] <Draconicus> Dudes... What's up with you and not updating GAIM?
[02:22] <Draconicus> Where's Pidgin? :P
[02:22] <rococo> foso: huh?
[02:22] <BENN92647> can someone help me I have had problems 1st with edgy disconnecting from my sound card now fiesty has do it and says it cant find my sound card...please help
[02:22] <yuno> how do i check? im pretty new to all of this :\
[02:22] <xtknight> PriceChild, foso: feisty,i386 http://xtknight.atothosting.com/dev/gizmod/
[02:22] <henaro> Hay gaiz
[02:22] <|_ocke> cannot allocate memory
[02:22] <henaro> 4Whats good?
[02:22] <|_ocke> should i just restart
[02:22] <xtknight> seems to work on mine
[02:22] <bimberi> !pidgin | Draconicus
[02:22] <ubotu> Draconicus: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[02:22] <henaro> I'm in need of help :|
[02:22] <foso> rococo: you told me to run a command that would fix my problem, what problem? sorry
[02:22] <|_ocke> im always swapping
[02:22] <ColdBeer> so lets say i have a dynamic dns of  user.homeip.net , can i make unlimited email address with like user1.. user2.. user3..   user4@user.homeip.net?
[02:22] <BENN92647> can someone help me I have had problems 1st with edgy disconnecting from my sound card now fiesty has do it and says it cant find my sound card...please help
[02:22] <henaro> You see,
[02:23] <trix`G> what is the name of the 'apt-get' package that houses the current nvidia drivers for a newer model geforce?
[02:23] <|_ocke> davef, im always swapping, i only have 256 ram
[02:23] <PriceChild> xtknight, and i had just finished the pbuild create :)
[02:23] <henaro> I am having trouble switching from my XGL sessions to the GNOME session
[02:23] <jarrod> how do i open a user friendly desktop in wine
[02:23] <PurpZeY> trix`g: Search the repositories.
[02:23] <rococo> foso: oh, sorry. that command was to check if you had that problem. the problem is that your card driver isn't working quite right with your card, or all the options aren't enabled. I'll get to helping you fix it in a sec - sorry, I answered too many people in here at once ;-)
[02:23] <Draconicus> Whoa... whoa...
[02:23] <trix`G> how?
[02:23] <Draconicus> What the bloody hell?!
[02:23] <Draconicus> No.
[02:23] <davef> |_ocke: Ohh, if you're swapping, that won't work to well.
[02:23] <tim167> hello, can someone help me? i want to reach System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop from the Terminal so i dont have to use gnome-panel, thanks !
[02:23] <PurpZeY> jarrod: You have to install programs into the wine directory. The call wine and point to the program.
[02:23] <Draconicus> You don't do that.
[02:23] <Draconicus> "Not soon enough."
[02:23] <henaro> I log in with the command line using sudo login
[02:23] <BENN92647> can someone help me I have had problems 1st with edgy disconnecting from my sound card now fiesty has do it and says it cant find my sound card...please help
[02:23] <Draconicus> Gusty's not due for months.
[02:23] <henaro> Then I run startx
[02:23] <davef> |_ocke: Did the swapoff fail?
[02:23] <|_ocke> davef, yes
[02:23] <rococo> yuno: it should have been visible in the same tool you used to try and enable the other one
[02:24] <henaro> How can I get this to put me into the GNOME session and not the XGL session?
[02:24] <Draconicus> You guys are gonna get a lot of crap if you don't do something about pidgin. It's not that hard to adapt a package from Debian, guys. Hell, I'll go grab it myself right now.
[02:24] <|_ocke> i have 193/425MB swap used
[02:24] <davef> |_ocke: type 'free' and see if it actually took the swap partition off.
[02:24] <|_ocke> no idt didnt
[02:24] <Taime1> i compiled pidgin the other day
[02:24] <Taime1> it was HELL
[02:24] <PurpZeY> Draconicus: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:24] <nixnoob> is there any way to get that right-click system menu like fluxbox in gnome/metacity?
[02:24] <foso> rococo, im confused, i think im good thanks!
[02:24] <rococo> yunno, foso: this is the best place to start for getting your graphics card working: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[02:24] <BENN92647> can someone help me I have had problems 1st with edgy disconnecting from my sound card now fiesty has do it and says it cant find my sound card...please help
[02:24] <|_ocke> it said cannot allocate memory when i did swapoff
[02:24] <davef> |_ocke: try the 'sudo swapon -a'
[02:25] <|_ocke> worked
[02:25] <hjj> hello
[02:25] <foso> rococo, my card is working fine
[02:25] <Gnea> BENN92647: what sound card?
[02:25] <lgc> IdleOne, you still there?
[02:25] <davef> |_ocke: 'free' ?
[02:25] <bimberi> tim167: 'vino-preferences'
[02:25] <foso> i think you have me confused with someone else
[02:25] <rococo> foso: well, the direct rendering part of it isn't if it said "no." having direct rendering working will make everything work much, much better in fullscreen
[02:25] <|_ocke> Swap:      4634668     158080    4476588
[02:25] <tim167> bimberi cool, thanks i'll try that :)
[02:25] <|_ocke> now after swapon
[02:26] <|_ocke> now how do i turn off just /dev/hda5
[02:26] <foso> rococo: ok thanks, ill hang on until you have time to tell me how to enable it
[02:26] <bimberi> tim167: np
[02:26] <BENN92647> Gnea: Diamond sound card..it's running the CM804### chip on it but fiesty doesnt seem to have that information
[02:26] <alvins> hi guys
[02:26] <|_ocke> or i guess i could just leave it on'
[02:26] <foso> xtknight: thanks alot!
[02:26] <henaro> Anyone want to help me?
[02:26] <rococo> foso: that guide I linked you to has an awesome place to start
[02:26] <|_ocke> i was going to resize / to include the megs freed from /dev/hda5 though
[02:26] <smacky> ok guy's i have tovid i want to convert a mpg to a iso ...what is the command plz
[02:26] <IronMaiden> i have switched from xubuntu to gnome and have xfce packages in  /usr/bin/X11, does harm to erase them?
[02:26] <Gnea> BENN92647: could you paste the output of lspci to a pastebin please?
[02:26] <foso> rococo, thanks ill check it!
[02:26] <yuno> rococo: im enabling in restricted drivers all it says is "ATI accelerated graphic drivers"
[02:26] <Gnea> !pastebin
[02:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:26] <CVD> How i do to someone listen to me?
[02:26] <davef> |_ocke: It should be fine then.
[02:27] <xtknight> foso, sure thing, i guess PriceChild's got some in the works too heh.  whatever works ;)
[02:27] <BENN92647> Gnea sure how do i paste it to a bin?
[02:27] <nixnoob> is there a right-click menu thing like fluxbox for gnome/metacity?
[02:27] <|_ocke> yeah 154.3MB of 4.4GB used hehe
[02:27] <|_ocke> thats what i was going for, so its alright
[02:27] <davef> |_ocke: Sorry, 'sudo swapoff /dev/hda5'
[02:27] <Gnea> BENN92647: highlight it with left click+drag, then middle click into the window...
[02:27] <smacky> ok guy's i have tovid i want to convert a mpg to a iso ...what is the command plz
[02:27] <davef> |_ocke: Or leave it on...
[02:27] <|_ocke> i was just encountering a constant inability top do anything since it was always getting full
[02:27] <Gnea> !plz
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <|_ocke> i installed a new 40gb drive to relieve it
[02:28] <Gnea> smacky: man tovid
[02:28] <BENN92647> gnea ok..sorry forgot line command to bring up sys info..do you know it?
[02:28] <yuno> rococo: i think im using fglrx
[02:28] <|_ocke> davef, next step is to copy the filesystem from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdb1
[02:28] <bimberi> IronMaiden: you're better off using the package manager to remove the packages associated with the files.  You can find out which package a file belongs to with 'dpkg -S /full/path/to/file'
[02:28] <Gnea> BENN92647: lspci
[02:28] <|_ocke> and use the 40gb drive instead
[02:28] <CVD> sudo help me
[02:28] <foso> xtknight, it failed to load libh
[02:28] <IronMaiden> nice thanx!
[02:28] <|_ocke> but its not critical to do that right now
[02:29] <xtknight> foso, yeah? where does it say that?  what's the exact error?
[02:29] <|_ocke> i just need the system to work coinsistently and not go down for now
[02:29] <rococo> yuno: that's what you should be using if you have an ATI card. I also suggest you try out the steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[02:29] <foso> it failed to install
[02:29] <henaro> So yeah
[02:29] <davef> |_ocke: That you may want to find a guide for, it's easy to f' up and trash stuff.
[02:29] <dave00989> hey all
[02:29] <henaro> I'm having login session trouble :)
[02:29] <xtknight> foso, btw you do need some dependencies.  "sudo apt-get install libboost-filesystem1.33.1 libboost-program-options1.33.1 libboost-python1.33.1 libboost-thread1.33.1"
[02:29] <|_ocke> in the future ill need to mirror the drive to the larger drive so i dont runb out of space
[02:29] <Pelo> how do I get rid of a zombie process ?
[02:29] <henaro> Yep
[02:29] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok I copied it but I need to send it to bin it isnt giving me a send to bin option
[02:29] <dave00989> can anyone help me with my lack of sound?
[02:29] <xtknight> Pelo, kill the parent process, or reboot
[02:30] <PurpZeY> Pelo: kill or reboot.
[02:30] <rococo> yuno: only, I suggest making a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf so you can put the old one back in if it messes up
[02:30] <Pelo> xtknight, thanks
[02:30] <henaro> Need to login with the GNOME desktop and not the XGL desktop
[02:30] <|_ocke> davef, i know :P i was trying to do it with dd, but all the guides i found were insufficient for my scenario
[02:30] <Gnea> BENN92647: did you open the site up?
[02:30] <xtknight> Pelo, 'pstree' for a parent- child process tree
[02:30] <ozzyboy> anyone can recomend a good IRC client for console? sirc isnt great
[02:30] <yuno> rococo: ok, thank
[02:30] <henaro> Mmmhm, sure would be nice if someone could help
[02:30] <cables> notsplit
[02:30] <PurpZeY> wow.
[02:30] <BENN92647> Gnea: yes and I gotthe information you need now how do i send it to you without out spaming it in chat
[02:30] <cables> netsplit
[02:30] <PurpZeY> nasty netsplit.
[02:31] <xtknight> that happens like everyday
[02:31] <Pelo> xtknight, it's not a child,  so I am out of luck  , I'll just leave it there
[02:31] <|_ocke> its running WAY better now that it doesnt have to redo the swap partition every 5 seconds though
[02:31] <rococo> yuno: so before you follow the guide, open up a terminal and type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" and if it messes up and crashes X, do "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:31] <foso> xtknight it said all dependencies satisfied
[02:31] <xtknight> Pelo, it's a child of 'init' but killing that is dangerous :P
[02:31] <foso> ill try that command though
[02:31] <Gnea> henaro: be patient.
[02:31] <xtknight> foso, okay, so where is the error?
[02:31] <Pelo> that wasn't a net split,    HEROES is about to start
[02:31] <davef> |_ocke: I make the filesystems on the drive, mount them somewhere, and use tar to copy them.  The problem then is getting the master boot record onto the new drive.
[02:31] <|_ocke> most of my purpose is to run secondlife reasonably so i can code in it
[02:31] <henaro> Gnea: I'll try :)
[02:31] <|_ocke> davef, exactly..
[02:31] <Gerro> I don't think the fan in my laptop is working, what are required to make it increase speed?
[02:31] <ozzyboy> how can i tell ubuntu to not lookup dhcp for a certain eth card on boot?
[02:31] <|_ocke> the mbr is the entire complication
[02:31] <Gnea> BENN92647: by using the pastebin site that i pointed out to you in the first place.
[02:32] <|_ocke> i could copy the filesystem just fine im sure, but i dont want to ahve to spend an hour trying to boot it while my server is down
[02:32] <IronMaiden> /etc/network/interfaces
[02:32] <Pelo> xtknight, thanks but I.ll just live with it,  I want to keep my uptime for now, I'm 2hrs away from seeing if a little script mode I made worked
[02:32] <Gnea> man, you just can't help some people.
[02:32] <Pelo> script mod
[02:32] <xtknight> Pelo, how much uptime?
[02:32] <|_ocke> not that im so important people are trying to access me 24/7
[02:32] <xtknight> 15.8333 days here :D
[02:32] <henaro> Soo yeah if anyone could tell me how I would login using the GNOME desktop instead of the XGL desktop, from the command line that would be greeeaaate
[02:32] <|_ocke> but its the principle of the thing
[02:33] <Pelo> xtknight,  right now   1 day 21h57
[02:33] <IronMaiden> ozzyboy
[02:33] <IronMaiden> ^^^
[02:33] <|_ocke> and i dont want to kill my uptime ;)
[02:33] <IronMaiden> /etc/network/interfaces
[02:33] <alvins> im from venezuela
[02:33] <alvins> i don't speak english very well but y understand so so
[02:33] <xtknight> im aiming for a couple months, perhaps
[02:33] <foso> xtknight i clicked to download the libh file, the very bottom one, and it started
[02:33] <ozzyboy> IronMaiden: ?
[02:33] <xtknight> !es | alvin
[02:33] <ubotu> alvin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:33] <xtknight> !es | alvins
[02:33] <ubotu> alvins: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:33] <|_ocke> in case i have to refute a windows fool
[02:33] <CVD> Its theer a way to gnome hide the long names?
[02:33] <foso> xt knightthen it stopped
[02:33] <ozzyboy> oh
[02:33] <xtknight> foso, hmm
[02:33] <ozzyboy> i saw
[02:33] <ozzyboy> thanks
[02:33] <|_ocke> CVD, why would you want to?
[02:33] <IronMaiden> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[02:33] <fiXXXerMet> Why can't I do rm -r *.ini?
[02:33] <Jang1> Hey, can anybody give me an advice on beryl? I use Feisty Fawn and Beryl seems to work just fine until I try to add it to autostart. If I do so and reboot, after logging it would say that the "last session lasted less than 10 seconds and blah-blah" and get me to the logging screen again. Is there a way to fix it? Thanks!
[02:33] <|_ocke> to poretend you're DOS-based
[02:33] <fiXXXerMet> It says "No such fine or directory"
[02:34] <Pelo> xtknight,  I donT, realy care about the uptime itself but in 2hrs it should go from  1 day to  2 dayS ,  if my display scritp modification worked
[02:34] <cables> !effects | Jang1
[02:34] <ubotu> Jang1: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[02:34] <CVD> cuz the arrangemnet dont look good
[02:34] <j1tters> question.  Just installed fiesty. Everything runs great. except whiptail is just eating 99% of processor.  any idea why?
[02:34] <xtknight> foso, seems to work here :\
[02:34] <v3n0m`> is there an easy way to mounti img/cue files or should I use this complex but old solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144236&page=2
[02:34] <foso> xtknight ill try again and try to get you more info
[02:34] <Jang1> cables, ubotu: thanks!
[02:34] <rococo> Jang1: instead of adding beryl to autostart, add beryl-manager to autostart (downlod it if you don't have it)
[02:34] <CVD> in windows the long name are hide until you select the file
[02:34] <xtknight> Pelo, ahhh
[02:34] <Jang1> rococo: yeah that's what i meant
[02:35] <yuno> rococo: im being asked for a PCI identifier
[02:35] <BENN92647> i got locked out
[02:35] <Jang1> rococo: it still does not work though :) thanks i'll try another channel
[02:35] <Gnea> !pastebin | BENN92647
[02:35] <ubotu> BENN92647: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:35] <henaro> Sooo Uhmm...
[02:35] <|_ocke> well, it might not be ultra quick, but now i can always switch processes ad desktops without  it screwing up or going into an endless loop
[02:35] <BENN92647> Gnea: sorry for the IM but the other suggestion you gave me didn't work
[02:35] <CVD> .
[02:35] <henaro> )Yeah, if someone could help me.
[02:35] <|_ocke> or even giving up noticable response time
[02:35] <foso> xtknight it says dpkg: error processing then it has the directory and file name
[02:35] <rococo> yuno: you should be able to skip most o the questions you don't know the answers to
[02:35] <yuno> rococo: my bad a video card bus identifier
[02:35] <Gnea> BENN92647: IM?
[02:35] <|_ocke> so thank you much davef
[02:35] <rococo> yuno: usually it gives a default value
[02:35] <yuno> OMG
[02:36] <Iceman_B> ok....I just tried compiz --replace and eded up with a white screen
[02:36] <Iceman_B> -_-
[02:36] <xtknight> foso, okay.. type "wget -c http://xtknight.atothosting.com/dev/gizmod/libh_3.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libh_3.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[02:36] <davef> |_ocke: Sure.  Later.
[02:36] <|_ocke> late
[02:36] <j1tters> any ideas about the whiptail process and why its eating up all available processes?
[02:36] <v3n0m`> is there an easy way to mount bin/img/cue/iso files to virtual drives?
[02:36] <BENN92647> Gnea: i am in paste bin and put the info in ther now how do i get it to you?
[02:36] <|_ocke> im creating a pretty sweet texturing HUD in secondlife currently if you're interessted in that type fio thying
[02:37] <Gnea> BENN92647: th url
[02:37] <Gnea> *the
[02:37] <foso> xtknight: it says the same thing but now its in the terminal
[02:37] <|_ocke> and i only have one fully functional hand to explain my ridiculous typos
[02:37] <BENN92647> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21912/plain/
[02:37] <jarrod> how do u install a windows application in to the wine directory?
[02:37] <Pelo> xtknight, I still need to get rid of a black frame border in that same script if you are insterested
[02:37] <rococo> yuno: but here http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Determining_the_video_card's_bus_identifier
[02:37] <BENN92647> Gnea did I do it right?
[02:37] <yuno> rococo: use kernel framebuffer device interface (Y/N)?
[02:37] <Gnea> BENN92647: looks good
[02:37] <xtknight> Pelo, < not good with scripts
[02:37] <Pelo> jarrod, just select the installation folder just like in windows
[02:38] <xtknight> Pelo, im not good with scripts, i mean.
[02:38] <rococo> yuno: if the Y or the N is capitalized, that's the default value. best advice is to hit enter and let it pick the default
[02:38] <fiXXXerMet> Any reason rm -r *.ini shouldn't work?
[02:38] <BENN92647> Gnea: thank you in advance for the time you are taking to help me it is appreciated very much
[02:38] <CVD> why question if there are not an answer
[02:38] <tannerld> has anyone install zabbix on ubuntu?
[02:38] <xtknight> foso, can you pastebin the exact error
[02:38] <xtknight> !pastebin
[02:38] <Pelo> xtknight, your ogirinal statement was correct as well,  if a little bit toughtless
[02:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:38] <jarrod> pelo inside of the wine file
[02:38] <BENN92647> i have Ubuntu
[02:38] <xtknight> Pelo, lol
[02:38] <jarrod> pelo ?*
[02:38] <rococo> yuno: if this stuff goes wrong the first time, you can always try again
[02:38] <imbecile> ok, im trying to move a file from my desktop to my file system.. how do i do this please?
[02:39] <foso> xtknight: like this? 19:36:40 (31.55 KB/s) - `libh_3.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb' saved [73850/73850] 
[02:39] <foso> (Reading database ... 97901 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:39] <foso> Unpacking libh (from libh_3.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[02:39] <foso> dpkg: error processing libh_3.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[02:39] <foso>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libH.so.3', which is also in package gizmod
[02:39] <foso> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:39] <Gnea> BENN92647: ok, now can you provide the output of the dmesg command to that site?
[02:39] <foso>  libh_3.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[02:39] <henaro> Does anyone want to help me login in using GNOME instead of XGL?
[02:39] <yuno> rococo: it really says Yes or No  not Y or N
[02:39] <LjL> !paste > foso    (foso, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:39] <rococo> yuno: and both the yes and the no have the exact same capitalization?
[02:39] <|_ocke> holy crap, swap space works like 5x faster than the swap partition in windows
[02:39] <Pelo> jarrod,   wine  /pathto/proginstaller.exe     then during the install proceedure you will be asked where t isntall to ,  select the location to install there
[02:39] <BENN92647> Gnea: o.k
[02:39] <foso> LjL sorry/thanks
[02:39] <xtknight> foso, try "sudo dpkg -i --force-all libh*.deb"   next time use pasteibn please
[02:39] <|_ocke> hell, 4gb swap works like 50% as well as 4gb of ram in windows :P
[02:40] <Pelo> henaro, it,sw not a matter of want , it a matter of can
[02:40] <Gnea> LjL: you're too kind. in #debian, the bot auto-kicks after the 4th line pasted.
[02:40] <CVD> how to change the target home/cvd to hda5?
[02:40] <rococo> yuno: anyway, if hitting enter doesn't do it, I suggest no - I think that's the default for that one anyway
[02:40] <foso> sorry im a noob!
[02:40] <v3n0m`> how can I mount img/cue to virtual drive(s)?
[02:40] <Dark_Avenger> how do i get devc++ for linux what do i put in the terminal??
[02:40] <Gnea> foso: no need to let us know, we can tell.
[02:40] <LjL> Gnea: i'm not that fast. no use kicking after the fact
[02:40] <imbecile> ok, im trying to move a file from my desktop to my file system.. how do i do this? pleeeeaasseeee
[02:40] <foso> haha
[02:40] <henaro> Pelo: I'm sure people here can.  I'm just wondering if there is a way to login using GNOME instead of XGL from the commandline.
[02:40] <amr>  i want to know how to install media player that can be integrated with firefox and can play real media
[02:41] <Dark_Avenger> what do i type in the temrinal to get devc++?
[02:41] <v3n0m`> imbecile: right click on the file > click cut > open my computer > open filesystem > click paste
[02:41] <Frogzoo> did printing break in feisty? can't add a network (jet direct) printer
[02:42] <foso> what syntax do i select in pastebin
[02:42] <BENN92647> Gnea:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21914/
[02:42] <amr> are you there
[02:42] <Gnea> BENN92647: so far, i see 2 different audio devices on your system.
[02:42] <amr> ?
[02:42] <Pelo> henaro, well from a login screen coudln't you select the type of session you log in to ,  I know it is like that when you have both gnome and kde installed ,  wouldn'T it be the same ?  and starting gnome from the command liine is   gdm I think
[02:42] <rococo> henaro: if you edit "~/.xinitrc" and tell it to start gnome, you can log into the command line and start gnome by typing "startx"
[02:42] <v3n0m`> amr: you can try VLC's browser plugins
[02:42] <|_ocke> wtf happened to davef?
[02:42] <|_ocke> i never saw him leave
[02:43] <henaro> Pelo: I don't use the login screen though.  I have to go by the commandline
[02:43] <BENN92647> Gnea: you see where I think Fiesty disabled my PCI sound card?
[02:43] <xtknight> foso, doesnt matter
[02:43] <Gnea> BENN92647: no, i don't. looks like a kernel issue.
[02:43] <imbecile> v3n0m`:  you are a friggin' genius.. I LOVE you man.. you saved me so many headaches
[02:43] <foso> ok, im pasting it now
[02:43] <Pelo> henaro, try start gdm
[02:44] <henaro> I will thanks
[02:44] <Frogzoo> !ping
[02:44] <ubotu> pong
[02:44] <levander> Are there any GTK jukebox applications that support MTP?
[02:44] <|_ocke> well, if you're here and i didnt notice, thanks DaveF, and i hope you'll check out my (relatively new) blog and webcomic at http://locke.serveblog.net/blog/
[02:44] <|_ocke> and everyone else too
[02:44] <BENN92647> Gnea: can i swap out kernels?
[02:44] <|_ocke> its geared towards alaskans
[02:44] <|_ocke> but it might be funny anyways
[02:45] <Gnea> BENN92647: okay, is there any output from: cat /proc/asound/cards ?
[02:45] <[BreliC] > hey everyone
[02:45] <j1tters> hey all. brand new install of fiesty.  Anyone know why/what a process called whiptail is just sitting at 99% proc usage?
[02:45] <Gnea> BENN92647: no need.
[02:45] <foso> xtknight: does that make sense?
[02:45] <[BreliC] > i have a question... it's not Ubuntu-specific, but I'm using Fesity.
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=446598    <--- quote  --->  DevC++ is not portable, the only way to run it is with "wine" or some derivation of it.
[02:45] <IronMaiden> There is a lot of good IDE's that run on Linux.
[02:45] <IronMaiden> Take a look at Anjuta, Eclipse (with CDT), Codeblocks, etc. They are way better than the DevCpp.
[02:45] <xtknight> foso, you have to give me the URL
[02:45] <IronMaiden> soory
[02:45] <BENN92647> Gnea how do I access that string?
[02:45] <foso> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21915/
[02:45] <xtknight> IronMaiden, you dont have to direct questions toward only me
[02:46] <Gnea> cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:46] <bimberi> [BreliC] : hi, just ask away
[02:46] <kaostikone> ne one familiar with html ????
[02:46] <BENN92647> Gnea: i tried that terminal didnt like it'
[02:46] <[BreliC] > Anyway, I wrote a short bash script to take a screenshot every 3 seconds using scrot, but no matter what i've done, i can't stop it from beeping every time it takes a shot...
[02:46] <BENN92647> cat/proc/asoundcards
[02:46] <IronMaiden> whats that mean?
[02:46] <xtknight> foso, libh*.deb  not .de
[02:46] <Gnea> kaostikone: yes, i see it everytime i load a webpage.
[02:46] <CVD> .
[02:46] <IronMaiden> that was an answer to your guestion
[02:46] <xtknight> IronMaiden, there is not a linux version of devC++
[02:46] <kaostikone> lol
[02:46] <[BreliC] > i've disabled the bell in the terminal
[02:46] <xtknight> IronMaiden, sorry, must not haev been my question
[02:47] <Teng1> kaostikone: a little
[02:47] <Gnea> BENN92647: you need to type it exactly as i typed it.
[02:47] <xtknight> IronMaiden, i never asked of dev C++
[02:47] <xtknight> Dark_Avenger asked of DevC++
[02:47] <xtknight> thanks for answering his question, though
[02:47] <kaostikone> i need help i am building a ws and i am trying to make a table access a txt file for easier editing and up dating
[02:47] <BENN92647> Gnea: its small want me to post it in here?
[02:47] <IronMaiden> oops soory man
[02:48] <[BreliC] > bimberi, and i've also put 'set bell-style none' in .inputrc
[02:48] <IronMaiden> :P
[02:48] <[BreliC] > no luck
[02:48] <[BreliC] > any ideas?
[02:48] <Gnea> kaostikone: ok, but what channel is this?
[02:48] <r5a> is there a way to remove packages without removing the dependencies?
[02:48] <r5a> with apt-get?
[02:48] <Gnea> BENN92647: if it's less than 4 lines, sure
[02:48] <xtknight> it's ok im just ornary
[02:48] <Pelo> kaostikone, I'm sure there is a channel for html or css or somethig you can go to,  but this is a channel for an OS
[02:48] <xtknight> :)
[02:48] <[BreliC] > same happens with Konsole.. it's definitley the internal speaker and i can't get rid of it
[02:48] <bimberi> [BreliC] : See if modifying the setting at  System -> Preferences -> Sound, System Beep tab  helps
[02:48] <kaostikone> yea i know i figure yall gnow some ubuntu chit figured it wouldn't hurt to ask? right?
[02:48] <killown> what the best software for Creating flash animations in Linux?
[02:49] <Beirdo> xtknight, do I really need evms?
[02:49] <spx2> i have a question , how can i disable that fuckin fsck
[02:49] <BENN92647> 0 [CK804          ] : NFORCE - NVidia CK804
[02:49] <BENN92647>                       NVidia CK804 with ALC850 at 0xfe02c000, irq 17
[02:49] <BENN92647>  1 [CMI8738MC8     ] : CMI8738-MC8 - C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC8
[02:49] <BENN92647>                       C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC8 (model 68) at 0x9c00, irq 20
[02:49] <henaro> Hey guys
[02:49] <Gnea> kaostikone: it helps to a) stick to topic b) spell correctly
[02:49] <xtknight> r5a, by default it does not remove dependencies.  autoremove removes dependencies
[02:49] <Teng1> kaostikone: you might try server side includes or doing something in php/mysql
[02:49] <spx2> i have a question , how can i disable that fuckin fsck
[02:49] <henaro> It said start gdm was an unknown command
[02:49] <Beirdo> I use lvm, but not sure if evms is useful to me
[02:49] <Pelo> kaostikone, it hurst our head when we break concentration to answer offtopics
[02:49] <xtknight> Beirdo, hrm im not even sure what EVMS is
[02:49] <Teng1> or loading the text file in a frame
[02:49] <bimberi> !ohmy | spx2
[02:49] <ubotu> spx2: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:49] <kaostikone> yea
[02:49] <Beirdo> xtknight, hehe, that makes two of us :)
[02:49] <Gnea> BENN92647: i don't see then problem then, both sound cards are detected - tried unmuting them?
[02:49] <rococo> henaro: try "startx gnome" or "startx gdm"
[02:49] <xtknight> Beirdo, in context to what though?
[02:49] <spx2> bimberi: sorry but i had big problems because of it
[02:49] <[BreliC] > bimberi, haha, of course!  Thanks, it worked.  I was trying everything in console and it never occurred to me that it might be in the menu
[02:49] <alvins> hi
[02:50] <Gnea> spx2: you don't.
[02:50] <kaostikone> sorry can any one point me in a good direction to a different room???
[02:50] <xtknight> must have forgotten what you asked (for the escond time:)
[02:50] <Pelo> spx2,  what are you taslking about ,  what do you want to disable ?
[02:50] <trig> could some body please message me, I have a simple question
[02:50] <bimberi> [BreliC] : cool, np :)
[02:50] <henaro> I'll try
[02:50] <rococo> henaro: "startx" runs X, and then it will run gnome on top of that
[02:50] <Gnea> spx2: you're wrong, disabling it makes things worse. just shut the computer off like you should.
[02:50] <Beirdo> xtknight, on a machine I'm trying to get running xen (feisty-based)...  it's throwing errors constantly about not finding dm-linear, and I'm not sure why
[02:50] <BENN92647> Gnea: how do i do that
[02:50] <[BreliC] > Feisty is pretty darn slick
[02:50] <bimberi> spx2: yes, the check always seems to happen when you want a fast boot
[02:50] <Beirdo> but that seems to be loaded by evms, and I'm not sure I need it
[02:50] <xtknight> Beirdo, ahh yeah...hrmm
[02:51] <trig> could somebody please message me, I need help
[02:51] <[BreliC] > compiz is actually quite stable.  i've been using it since Feisty came out and the only problem i encountered was using VMWare to run Windows.. it wouldn't shut down properly
[02:51] <[BreliC] > other than that, no complaints
[02:51] <Gnea> BENN92647: type this: alsamixer
[02:51] <Beirdo> I think I'm gonna remove evms and see if it likes me
[02:51] <Beirdo> heh
[02:51] <spx2> Gnea: there are cases when it freezes,theres no otehr solution
[02:51] <spx2> Gnea: i need to disable fsck
[02:51] <Gnea> trig: ask it in channel.
[02:51] <foso> xtknight: i got the libh one, but now im getting the same error on the second one
[02:52] <xtknight> foso, blah! ;)
[02:52] <Gnea> spx2: if it froze then there's a problem bigger than fsck itself.
[02:52] <xtknight> foso, do me a favor and download all those .debs to a new folder.
[02:52] <spx2> Gnea: or else if it runs it makes all my hda readonly and then i rip hair from my head and im mad and i hit the keyboard
[02:52] <Gnea> spx2: disabling it would only make things worse.
[02:52] <IronMaiden> spx2 The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[02:52] <foso> xtknight all five or?
[02:52] <xtknight> foso, yup all five
[02:52] <Gnea> spx2: if you're getting mad and ripping hair then you're reacting wrong.
[02:52] <foso> k
[02:52] <xtknight> i do that all the time
[02:52] <xtknight> :p
[02:52] <spx2> NOOOOOOOOOOOO i dont want a fsck check never !!!!
[02:53] <spx2> i get my hda readonly and then all hell breaks looooose !!!!
[02:53] <IronMaiden> lol
[02:53] <xtknight> spx2, check out "bonager" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295262
[02:53] <Gnea> spx2: you don't deserve to run linux, go back to windows.
[02:54] <foso> xtknight: got them
[02:54] <xtknight> foso, cd into that folder using the terminal.
[02:54] <tim167> i'm trying to connect to my remote desktop, but i get "vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused", the ip is correct tho... any ideas ?
[02:54] <spx2> can i please get an answer to my simple question ?
[02:54] <xtknight> foso, type "sudo dpkg -i --force-all *.deb"
[02:54] <bcardarella> What's the command line shutdown -> restart command? ('shutdown -r now' isn't really working)
[02:54] <xtknight> spx2, we already gave you an answer
[02:54] <Gnea> spx2: you have your answer.
[02:54] <xtknight> spx2, check out "bonager" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295262
  The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[02:55] <xtknight> isn't init 6 reboot?
[02:55] <novato_br> which of the two systems linux or windows is more optimized for make animes encoder?
[02:55] <Cryoniq> Anyone know what to do when xorg log tells at startup in Kubuntu that API Nvidia module driver version doesnt match Xserver module version?
[02:55] <bcardarella> spx2?
[02:55] <spx2> IronMaiden: if it freezes i dont get a chance to run that
[02:55] <spx2> bcardarella: what ???
[02:55] <bcardarella> Are you guys calling me spx2?
[02:55] <rococo> xtknight: there's 8 bazillion ways to reboot
[02:55] <EpP> does anyone know if theres a recent build of ubuntu for xobx?
[02:55] <spx2> xtknight: ok where do i get config for that ?
[02:55] <EpP> xbox*
[02:55] <xtknight> rococo, direct towards bcardarella
[02:55] <r5a> xtknight: The following packages will be REMOVED: <lists a bunch> After unpacking 119MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? n
[02:55] <Gnea> spx2: if it freezes then something is wrong with your hardware.
[02:55] <trig> where do I find the .iso to install ubuntu, on the forums it says I need an is. However what I downloaded is a cd but not in iso
[02:56] <Beirdo> HAH
[02:56] <bcardarella> or are there a bunch of people asking the same question that I just did? :)
[02:56] <rococo> xtknight: oh.
[02:56] <Beirdo> error message disappeared
[02:56] <Beirdo> bah humbug to evms
[02:56] <r5a> that sounds like it will be removed when i run it.
[02:56] <xtknight> rococo, well i'm curious also lol ;)
[02:56] <rococo> bcardarella: okay, the command to reboot from command line is just "reboot" but you need to use sudo to do it
[02:56] <xtknight> spx2, what config?
[02:56] <EpP> trig, the ubuntu.com download is a iso
[02:56] <xtknight> r5a, huh?
[02:56] <kitche> trig: you can download the iso from ubuntu's website
[02:56] <CSWookie> Is there some central place I can go to make Gnome stop listening for function keys?
[02:56] <r5a> you awensered my question eariler
[02:56] <Gnea> bcardarella: just a bunch of newbies trying to figure out the difference between a kernel and a GUI :)
[02:56] <CSWookie> It seems like every single one of them has been co-opted by some worthless program.
[02:56] <rococo> bcardarella, xtknight: "telinit 6" will also do it, also with sudo. also "shutdown" with a bunch of added options, but I'm too lazy for that
[02:57] <xtknight> r5a, sorry can you give me a quick recap (bad memory0
[02:57] <foso> xtknight i know how to navigate to the desktop
[02:57] <Cryoniq> These driver problems for xserver and cards is starting to bugg me quite a lot =( nv works, but app want proprietary.. changing to nvidias own and it craps me all over back.. =(
[02:57] <HLM> spx2 are you just dense or just plain lazy ?
[02:57] <Anohaakten> hi, can i get some help on which version of ubuntu to get for my ibook g3, it has the powerpc processor
[02:57] <bcardarella> rococo: cool, thanks. I haven't used Linux in a while... previously RedHat and shutdown -r now worked for me there but not in Ubuntu... I guess 'reboot' makes more sense
[02:57] <spx2> this channel is useless to me
[02:57] <xtknight> Anohaakten, Ubuntu PPC (powerPC)
[02:57] <r5a> apt-get remove <package>, is there a way to not remove the dependenices
[02:57] <foso> but when i type in the name of the folder it tries to run something else that it did before i dl'd the five deb files
[02:57] <Anohaakten> I cant find it on there website xtknight
[02:57] <cables> What's best: Thoggen, DVD::Rip, or AcidRip? I want to backup my own, self-created DVDs... yeah. That's what I want to do :)
[02:57] <EpP> trig, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECVHXy4KXwk
[02:57] <r5a> im removing a libgdbm which is linked to mysql, openssl and a whole bunch
[02:57] <r5a> it says they will all be removed
[02:57] <xtknight> Anohaakten, Feisty does not have an official PPC port.  a community-supported one is coming
[02:57] <rococo> bcardarella xtknight: "reboot" is best because I'm lazy
[02:58] <r5a> resulting in 119 megs removed if i hit yes.
[02:58] <xtknight> Anohaakten, older distro (Edgy) has an official PPC port
[02:58] <m1ce> is there a way to check to see if my video card is using the correct drivers?
[02:58] <spx2> HLM: that reply of yours isnt helping at all
[02:58] <EpP> trig, sry wrong link lol. its http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[02:58] <Anohaakten> where can i get edgy?
[02:58] <xtknight> foso, okay...did you get to the folder in the terminal then?
[02:58] <xtknight> r5a, hmm using apt-get or aptitude?
[02:58] <cables> m1ce, what card do you have, and what driver do you have? How did you install it?
[02:58] <xtknight> CSWookie, gnome-keybinding-properties
[02:58] <foso> xtknight im just at the desktop, i dont know how to get to the foler
[02:58] <foso> *folder
[02:58] <xtknight> foso, at the desktop in the terminal?
[02:58] <trig> ok thanks man, and also which sowftware do you recommend for burning, and can I use a DVD or does it have to be a cd?
[02:58] <foso> yeah
[02:59] <xtknight> foso, type "cd FolderName"
[02:59] <HLM> spx2  the solution to help you has been posted 2 times in the channel
[02:59] <CSWookie> xtknight: Is that the manpage I look at, or what?
[02:59] <xtknight> CSWookie, it is the command you type
[02:59] <EpP> anyone know if theres a current build of ubuntu for xbox?
[02:59] <xtknight> xbox 1 is i386, xbox 2 is ...well i dont know
[02:59] <spx2> HLM: it hasnt been posted,those commands i can run IF IT DONT FREEZE,if it FREEZE i CANNOT RUN THEM !
[02:59] <cables> EpP, if Google doesn't know about it, there isn't... and there probably isn't.
[02:59] <m1ce> cables, the card is Radeon Mobility 7500.  it uses whatever driver is default with feisty
[02:59] <CVD> long names in gnome?
[02:59] <cables> xtknight, lol, xbox 2?
[02:59] <xtknight> Anohaakten, one moment
[02:59] <Gnea> HLM: he's just a big baby who expects something for nothing, or else he'll throw a temper tantrum. we've tried to help him, but he refused to try anything. the real problem is that his hardware is messed up, but he refuses to look for a real solution.
[02:59] <xtknight> xbox 360 bleh ;)
[02:59] <CSWookie> xtknight: Not enough.  Apparently there are others.  My particular problem is with the desktop indexer, whatever that is.
[03:00] <xtknight> CSWookie, wait, what is your problem again?
[03:00] <xtknight> i thought it was with function keys?
[03:00] <CSWookie> xtknight: It is, but they aren't all mapped there.
[03:00] <BENN92647> Gnea: sorry i have a 5 months old daughter who just woke up
[03:00] <trig> which sowftware can I use  to burn the .iso to a cd, and can I use a DVD or does it have to be a CD?
[03:00] <xtknight> Anohaakten, IBM-PPC (POWER5)  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/
[03:00] <Iceman_B> anyone know why 3 of my 4 workspaces disappear when I activate "use desktop effects"  ?
[03:00] <Gnea> BENN92647: no problem
[03:00] <xtknight> CSWookie, bealge is coming up with f12?
[03:00] <CSWookie> xtknight: The Desktop indexer maps them seperately apparently, and won't give up its stranglehold on f12.
[03:01] <kitche> trig: use any software but ubuntu has a dvd also
[03:01] <spx2> HLM: ill be back in a gippie
[03:01] <Iceman_B> also, they seem to have returned when I started the Beryl manager
[03:01] <xtknight> CSWookie, i'd imagine beagle has properties for keyboard shortcuts
[03:01] <Gnea> BENN92647: let me know when you're ready :)
[03:01] <CSWookie> xtknight: If that is what desktop indexer is.
[03:01] <xtknight> it is , indeed
[03:01] <foso> xtknight: did that and ran the last command you told me
[03:01] <xtknight> foso, any errors since then?
[03:01] <BENN92647> Gnea: alsamixer failed
[03:01] <jcole> is there a hack around the "javascript menus behind flash" bug yet?
[03:01] <Gnea> BENN92647: what was the failure message?
[03:01] <CSWookie> xtknight: I think I'll just get rid of beagle then.
[03:01] <fiXXXerMet> Any reason why rm -r *.ini shouldn't work?
[03:02] <foso> xtknight no, it said it installed some config files i didnt have
[03:02] <cables> m1ce, hmm, I'm not sure how to check for that type of card... sorry.
[03:02] <jcole> for example, try to use the adobe menus -> http://www.adobe.com/
[03:02] <xtknight> jcole, i'm not sure but i have the same problem.  is it well documented yet
[03:02] <xtknight> ?
[03:02] <m1ce> okay, thanks
[03:02] <xtknight> foso, pastebin again please
[03:02] <jcole> xtknight: this bug has existed for YEARS
[03:02] <kitche> I have no problems with the menu's and flash
[03:03] <kaostikon4> i am aware this is a ubuntu room but if there is any 1 with good knowledge of html or knows some where i may be able to get answers please msg me
[03:03] <jcole> kitche: try to use the adobe menus -> http://www.adobe.com/
[03:03] <kitche> jcole: so it might be how your web browser is setup or something else
[03:03] <BENN92647> Gnea: thank you the msg is :0 [CK804          ] : NFORCE - NVidia CK804
[03:03] <BENN92647>                       NVidia CK804 with ALC850 at 0xfe02c000, irq 17
[03:03] <BENN92647>  1 [CMI8738MC8     ] : CMI8738-MC8 - C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC8
[03:03] <BENN92647>                       C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC8 (model 68) at 0x9c00, irq 20
[03:03] <kitche> jcole: as I said I have no trouble
[03:03] <Magic> Finalement je reste avec ubuntu :)
[03:03] <xtknight> !fr
[03:03] <BENN92647> opps
[03:03] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:03] <xtknight> jcole, i do have trouble with that site
[03:03] <Gnea> heh
[03:03] <BENN92647> Gnea:alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such devic
[03:03] <xtknight> jcole, maybe it's adblock?
[03:04] <Gnea> BENN92647: what about this: alsamixer -c 1
[03:04] <jcole> kitche: so, what do you do different than everyone else that uses firefox on linux
[03:04] <jcole> kitche: are you using a plugin
[03:04] <foso> xtknight :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21918/
[03:04] <amr> i have aproblem regarding playing arabic subtitles the arabic charachters cannot be displayed
[03:04] <xtknight> foso, okay that's fine.  gizmod is installed properly
[03:05] <foso> ok
[03:05] <BENN92647> Gnea: i got some kind of graph LOL
[03:05] <xtknight> foso, how to use it, i have no idea.  but it is there ;)
[03:05] <foso> ok
[03:05] <xtknight> i have never uesd gizmod
[03:05] <xtknight> only made the pkgs
[03:05] <EpP> cables, actually i just found it. But its breezy... thats too old for my liking.
[03:05] <amr> i have aproblem regarding playing arabic subtitles the arabic charachters cannot be displayed
[03:05] <BENN92647> Gnea: it looks like a command console for sound
[03:05] <foso> xtknight thanks a lot, everyone else thanks for being patient with me!
[03:05] <Gnea> BENN92647: nice, what does it say next to 'Card: '?
[03:05] <amr> can anyone answer me
[03:05] <foso> ill use pastebin from now on to! thanks again
[03:05] <xtknight> amr, try #mplayer
[03:05] <Gnea> BENN92647: yes, it is a soundmixer for your c-media card
[03:05] <amr> i tried mplayer already
[03:06] <BENN92647> Gnea: C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC8
[03:06] <amr> ok i got you
[03:06] <mIgUeL_sAn> i have a problem trying to get in the folder in my ntfs, how can i get into the folder name "linux unix" there is a space between of them
[03:06] <raxor> hey all, I just installed feisty and it is failing on boot. I see an (EE) No drivers availble and then Fatal Server Error: no screens found. I have an NVidia graphics card and am assuming I need to sudo apt-get somenvidiadriver... any ideas?
[03:06] <Gnea> BENN92647: you should unmute the Master volume by pressing the 'm' key, then go over to PCM and unmute that.... try increasing the volume to 100% for master and around 50% for PCM
[03:06] <jcole> mIgUeL_sAn: cd "linux unix"
[03:06] <EJL> How do you disable usb detection when installing ubuntu?
[03:06] <spx2> wow icewm is GREAT !!!
[03:06] <xtknight> amr, try the #mplayer channel
[03:07] <kitche> jcole: some systems don't have problems while others do
[03:07] <jcole> mIgUeL_sAn: or, cd linux\ unix
[03:07] <Gnea> BENN92647: open another terminal and: alsamixer -c 0
[03:07] <wastedfluid> Okay; synaptics question.  I disabled the touch pad so it can't click anymore.. but my mouse buttons(I have left click+right click under my synaptics pad) no longer work.. any way around this?  I can't double click..
[03:07] <jcole> kitche: some systems? which ones don't?
[03:07] <rococo> amr: do you already have arabic fonts/characters working on your computer?
[03:07] <CSWookie> Glory!  The jumping jacks I have to go through to make this user freindly system usable.
[03:07] <cjae> anyone know a good encrypting email program is ??
[03:07] <mIgUeL_sAn> jcole thanks a lot man
[03:07] <CSWookie> xtknight: Thanks.  You told me the programs to get rid of to make F12 work.
[03:08] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok its open
[03:08] <xtknight> CSWookie, no problem
[03:08] <nelsonuwp> are there any really good linux programs to aid me in the making of a web page?
[03:08] <jcole> mIgUeL_sAn: next time do this: cd linux[TAB] [TAB] 
[03:08] <cjae> my boys gf keeps reading his email and then he doesn't get to go out
[03:08] <spx2> exit
[03:08] <kitche> jcole: I never had that problem on any linux I used and I know many others have not it has to do with how the javascript is written I tend to have javascript off unless I m programming in it
[03:08] <Gnea> BENN92647: weird... okay, it should show the nvidia as the card now?
[03:08] <raxor> cjae, I have heard good things about hushmail
[03:08] <BENN92647> Gnea: the first one shows no volume the second shows the volume all the way up
[03:08] <r5a> xknight: apt-get
[03:08] <Flannel> cjae: Use gpg/pgp to encrypt email
[03:08] <BENN92647> Gnea: the second one does sorry
[03:09] <Gnea> BENN92647: ok, so unmute it and turn the volume up
[03:09] <cjae> is it difficult cause he not so savy and  I think he has a winbox
[03:09] <Gnea> BENN92647: and double-check your physical speaker connections for both soundcards and try to play something
[03:09] <jcole> kitche: if you have javascript disabled, how can you test javascript menus with flash
[03:09] <BENN92647> Gnea: how do i adjust it?
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[03:09] <AnRkey> how do i link two sliders in my sound control panel?
[03:09] <kitche> jcole: I enable it
[03:09] <mIgUeL_sAn> thanks jcole
[03:09] <cjae> Flannel, win version?\
[03:10] <xtknight> r5a, what is the full command you are using?
[03:10] <Gnea> BENN92647: up/down arrows, left/right arrows to change ... master and pcm are the most important
[03:10] <m1r> how can i backup my current system ?
[03:10] <r5a> apt-get remove libgdbm3
[03:10] <cjae> Flannel, free as beer ?? or free freedom
[03:10] <BENN92647> Gnea: they are all up and open
[03:10] <Gnea> BENN92647: if it has a MM, then it's muted
[03:10] <[Neurotic] > Is there a way I can stop the Vmware services starting up when I login to ubuntu? I can't see them in the services manager, and using update-rc.d seems to muck up the vmware install?
[03:11] <xtknight> r5a, interesting.  it looks to be a required system file though.  why are you removing it?
[03:11] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok so how do I access it so i get the MM off?
[03:11] <Gnea> BENN92647: just selected it and press m
[03:11] <Dark_Avenger> How do i download devc++ for ubuntu ?
[03:11] <Akuma_> i get a notification on startup that my network uses a .local domain and because of it avahi gets disabled ... how can i fix this? what should i change in the router's config?
[03:12] <Flannel> cjae: gpg is in main, `gnupg`
[03:12] <hatter> what do i use in gnome to burn an iso to cd ?
[03:12] <poningru> [Neurotic] : there is an option within vmware
[03:12] <cjae> Flannel, i c
[03:12] <xtknight> Dark_Avenger, IronMaiden answered your question earlier.  scroll up
[03:12] <[Neurotic] > poningru: ah.. where is it, I can't see the thing?
[03:12] <Flannel> cjae: http://www.gnupg.org/  theres a windows version too.
[03:13] <ion__> Flannel, quick question about gnupg
[03:13] <cjae> Flannel, keyrings or passwords
[03:13] <Akuma_> Dark_Avenger: is there a linux version of devc++ ?
[03:13] <[Neurotic] > p.s. I'm using vmware 6
[03:13] <wastedfluid> hey guys; have touchpadoff set to 2.  it disabled my double click with my left+right click with my buttons under my touchpad on my synaptic; any ideas?
[03:13] <ion__> Flannel, for some reason I cannot select an AES algo for a key
[03:13] <ion__> why?
[03:13] <ion__> only RSA ?
 DevC++ is not portable, the only way to run it is with "wine" or some derivation of it.
[03:13] <IronMaiden> There is a lot of good IDE's that run on Linux.
[03:13] <IronMaiden> Take a look at Anjuta, Eclipse (with CDT), Codeblocks, etc. They are way better than the DevCpp.
[03:13] <IronMaiden> Reply With Quote
[03:13] <kitche> ion__: AES is not supported it's either DSA or RSA
[03:13] <IronMaiden> not again
[03:13] <IronMaiden> :D
[03:14] <BENN92647> Gnea: i got everything all the way up now how do I switch from the nvidia alsamixer to my sound card mixer beacuse i am still without sound
[03:14] <v3n0m`> I need to temporarily allow all permissions to the usr folder, but it's saying I'm not the owner...?
[03:14] <ion__> kitche, that blows, is there something I can use to support Aes
[03:14] <v3n0m`> how do I log in as root
[03:14] <ion__> aes is the advanced encryption standard and gnupgp dont use it ....
[03:14] <Akuma_> Dark_Avenger: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248358
[03:14] <v3n0m`> ion__: i'm guessing Truecrypt
[03:14] <ion__> thats just wrong.
[03:14] <IronMaiden> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=446598
[03:14] <kitche> ion__: not that I know of never heard of AES really
[03:14] <ion__> v3n0m`, I use truecrypt but Id like something for email
[03:14] <kitche> ion__: but I know RSA and DSA is standard
[03:15] <CVD> any way to truncate the loooooooooooooon names of files and folders in gnome?
[03:15] <Flannel> v3n0m`: You don't.  Use suo
[03:15] <ion__> AES is the national standard for encryption "advanced encryption standard"
[03:15] <Flannel> v3n0m`: sudo, even
[03:15] <ion__> the NSA uses AES
[03:15] <v3n0m`> ion__: i see, so you want to encrypt for something like gmail? (i assume you know about hushmail)
[03:15] <ion__> its unbreakable
[03:15] <ion__> DSA/RSA has been broken
[03:15] <poningru> [Neurotic] : its in one of the preferences some where
[03:15] <poningru> I dont have an install with me
[03:16] <ion__> v3n0m`, yea gmail
[03:16] <BENN92647> Gnea: i was aable to switch divices but still no sound thru the movie watching program
[03:16] <ion__> id like to encrypt individual files as well
[03:16] <v3n0m`> ion__: as attachments?
[03:16] <rococo> ion__: everything is breakable if you have a strong enough computer or enough time
[03:16] <usser> ion__: gpg?
[03:16] <[Neurotic] > poningru: I assume you mean somewhere in workstation? okay, I'll keep hunting
[03:16] <Gnea> BENN92647: what movie program are you using?
[03:16] <v3n0m`> Flannel: i'm sorry I don't understant
[03:17] <ionstorm> rococo, yea but AES it takes thousands of years longer to break
[03:17] <v3n0m`> Flannel: I need to set permissions so my game can install itself
[03:17] <rococo> ionstorm: doesn't it use the same basic technique, just with more complicated keys?
[03:17] <ionstorm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard
[03:17] <poningru> [Neurotic] : in server is where I'm talking about
[03:18] <ionstorm> Advanced Encryption Standard (AES), also known as Rijndael, is a block cipher adopted as an encryption standard by the U.S. government. It has been analyzed extensively and is now used widely worldwide[2]  as was the case with its predecessor, the Data Encryption Standard (DES). AES was announced by National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) as U.S. FIPS PUB 197 (FIPS 197) in November 26, 2001 after a 5-year standardization pro
[03:18] <ionstorm> cess (see Advanced Encryption Standard process for more details). It became effective as a standard May 26, 2002. As of 2006, AES is one of the most popular algorithms used in symmetric key cryptography.
[03:18] <ionstorm> eh my bad
[03:18] <Flannel> v3n0m`: instead of logging in as root, prepend whatever commands you want to do with 'sudo', and theyll be performed with more permissions
[03:18] <Flannel> !sudo | v3n0m`
[03:18] <ubotu> v3n0m`: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:18] <[Neurotic] > poiningru: I just installed the workstation... how do I configure the server?
[03:19] <shawn_selig29> hi guys...
[03:19] <ionstorm> , the only successful attacks against AES have been side channel attacks. The National Security Agency (NSA) reviewed all the AES finalists, including Rijndael, and stated that all of them were secure enough for US Government non-classified data. In June 2003, the US Government announced that AES may be used for classified information.
[03:19] <v3n0m`> Flannel: the game has it's own built in installer
[03:19] <usser> shawn_selig29: hello
[03:19] <shawn_selig29> can i c&p a question here?
[03:19] <rococo> ionstorm: holy crap, that must take forever
[03:19] <nelsonuwp> are there any really good linux programs to aid me in the making of a web page?
[03:19] <Frogzoo> neuratix: the desktop is a superset of server
[03:19] <v3n0m`> Flannel: I can't force it to use sudo, I'd prefer just setting permissions for until it installs then removing them if possible
[03:19] <kitche> ionstorm: umm DES is different then DSA
[03:20] <Frogzoo> neuratix: you might like to install lamp
[03:20] <shawn_selig29> ##tech-talk
[03:20] <ionstorm> AES=only way to go for encryption, if the NSA uses it. use it
[03:20] <shawn_selig29> sorry..
[03:20] <shawn_selig29> wrong c&p
[03:20] <ionstorm> yea thats the hashing algo
[03:20] <shawn_selig29> i got a dell dimension 4700..is it compatible?
[03:20] <usser> shawn_selig29: almost all dells i've seen so far work with linux pretty good
[03:21] <ionstorm> "The design and strength of all key lengths of the AES algorithm (i.e., 128, 192 and 256) are sufficient to protect classified information up to the SECRET level. TOP SECRET information will require use of either the 192 or 256 key lengths. The implementation of AES in products intended to protect national security systems and/or information must be reviewed and certified by NSA prior to their acquisition and use."
[03:21] <Cryoniq> Can anyone help me with this? : API Mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631. Please make sure that the kernel module and the NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[03:21] <shawn_selig29> cool
[03:21] <kitche> !offtopic | ionstorm
[03:21] <ubotu> ionstorm: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:21] <crdlb> Cryoniq: yes
[03:21] <shawn_selig29> i think i gonna remove xp..and try linux.
[03:21] <Cryoniq> =)
[03:21] <Frogzoo> AES wireless security > physical security of ethernet
[03:21] <crdlb> Cryoniq: there's a pretty simple fix
[03:21] <rococo> RSA is a lot more convenient, though, and it's still very difficult to break unless you open yourself to middleman-based attacks, and if that happens then you're usually in trouble anyway
[03:21] <shawn_selig29> any install guides?
[03:21] <poningru> [Neurotic] : hehe no no, workstation is 'server' with more features
[03:22] <Flannel> !install > shawn_selig29
[03:22] <kitche> ionstorm: but anyways openssl is uses it but only gnupg is used for signing and such that I know of
[03:22] <sldkfj> v3n0m`sounds like it's a windows game.  you need to look at system requirements on teh packaging and see if linux is anywhere there.
[03:22] <rococo> if somebody was gonig to try THAT hard to get my data to the point of breaking RSA directly, then I think they'd also torture me for the password, so I'm screwed anyway
[03:22] <Cryoniq> crdlb, how I love to hear that part with simple fix :P
[03:22] <crdlb> Cryoniq: in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common, set DISABLED_MODULES="nvidia_legacy nvidia_new"
[03:22] <kitche> rococo: yeah read an article about RSA it takes months to break RSA if you go the long key way
[03:23] <crdlb> Cryoniq: just keep in mind that would break if you switch to nvidia-glx-new
[03:23] <crdlb> (you need at least a FX series card for that)
[03:23] <spx2> how do i switch windows in irss besides /window next ?
[03:23] <[Neurotic] > poningru: aha! Thanks... I've been through the workstation preferences, and can't find anything. Any pointers in the right direction?
[03:23] <jbrown> !sync
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <jbrown> !synce
[03:23] <ubotu> Details of setting up synce-serial at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PocketPCHowto
[03:23] <Cryoniq> crdlb, he he I have an old Geforce2 GTS/Pro :)
[03:23] <Bogaurd> I'm having some problems with my spamassasin... I keep getting all these russian emails, which are getting a spam score of -1.4, 5 needed to trigger the filter - it says 'tests=ALL_TRUSTED' in the headers. I've tried teaching spamassassin with obout 100 of these, but it still won't catch them.
[03:23] <Pelo> heroes over already ??
[03:24] <rococo> kitche: I actually learned to do it by hand in a math course - you're talking about figuring out a key that's on the level of 2^200.... there is no efficient method of factoring to find that quickly
[03:24] <kitche> spx2: alt+<num>
[03:24] <jarrod> crdlb do u ever find 20 dollarbills just lying around?
[03:24] <spx2> kitche: im in an xterm it dont work
[03:24] <spx2> kitche: it prints me weird characters
[03:24] <kitche> spx2: then it's /window <num> in irssi
[03:24] <spx2> kitche: like this 
[03:25] <spx2> kitche: im sure there must be a much better way
[03:25] <gordboy> rococo: use a one-time pad generated from motherboard entropy, and distribute the keys using a rsa handshake. just an idea ...
[03:25] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok so she was hungry and pooped LOL.  I did what you said but the sound is still not working
[03:25] <kitche> spx2: I told you alt+num is the easiest way and techinally should work in xterm
[03:25] <v3n0m`> sldkfj & Flannel: it is a linux game
[03:26] <rococo> gordboy: I encrypted my data the best way: I set my computer on fire
[03:26] <m1r> gn all
[03:26] <pirate-king> Im running xubuntu got 2 drives in th pc how do access the other drive
[03:26] <spx2> kitche: well it dont
[03:26] <Pelo> kitche, spx2   ascii codes  using alt+num don't work in ubuntu,  and I donT think they work in linux period, I've been trying for close to a year
[03:26] <Gnea> BENN92647: aaah... what movie program are you using? totem?
[03:26] <spx2> if i disable gdm will i still be able to login into icewm ?
[03:26] <Grein> Is there any way to boot the Ubuntu LiveCD so it copies entirely into RAM, freeing up my DVD-R drive for burning?
[03:26] <kitche> Pelo: not talking about ascii codes talking about having irssi switch windows like it's suppose to
[03:26] <spx2> will i be screwed ?
[03:27] <Flannel> v3n0m`: which game?
[03:27] <Pelo> kitche,  my mistake, carry on
[03:27] <poningru> [Neurotic] : uh.. sorry dude just browse help
[03:27] <rococo> spx2: you should be able to start icewm from the command line by typing "startx icewm"
[03:27] <|_ocke> Pelo, did you try using the numpad
[03:27] <|_ocke> with numlock on and off
[03:28] <rococo> spx2: but that's if you're at the complete, total, black screen command line
[03:28] <spx2> rococo: if i disable gdm am i supposed to logon from console ?
[03:28] <|_ocke> i think the number row generates different ascii codes than the pad
[03:28] <spx2> rococo: its like...i logon from console and then i get in icewm no ?
[03:28] <[Neurotic] > poningru: thanks anyway, I'll do that
[03:28] <spx2> rococo: how could i reenable back gdm on startup ?
[03:28] <rococo> spx2: right. you log into the console, and once in type "startx icewm"
[03:28] <poningru> [Neurotic] : sorry we werent more help
[03:28] <spx2> rococo: if i do disable it
[03:28] <Pelo> |_ocke, yes,  if it is possible is is not something obvious
[03:28] <raxor> hmm, any of the admins here have a helpful "how to make nvidia not break | raxor"?
[03:28] <poningru> [Neurotic] : the trouble is workstation isnt free with ubuntu
[03:28] <Frogzoo> spx2: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:28] <|_ocke> hmmm
[03:28] <poningru> so most people dont know the prefs very well including me
[03:28] <Cryoniq> crdlb, might be much to ask for, but does that change prevent some kind of linking at boot of system so that nvidia-glx-legacy are prevented?
[03:29] <spx2> Frogzoo: thanks
[03:29] <[Neurotic] > poningru: yep, but figured I would ask here first before I went to vmware to ping them. thanks anyway :D
[03:29] <Pelo> |_ocke,  and no  it's the number that is important , not the key
[03:29] <rick__> Hello
[03:29] <poningru> [Neurotic] : they usually sell workstation with support
[03:29] <wastedfluid> Synaptic question; I disabled the touchpad... and it disabled my two mouse buttons.  Anyway I can disable touchpad but keep those buttons enabled?
[03:29] <poningru> [Neurotic] : gl
[03:29] <crdlb> Cryoniq: yes
[03:29] <rick__> Does anyone know that best way to rip dvd's in linux?
[03:29] <kitche> rococo: spx2 you can also edit a file called .xinitrc and add starticewm or soemthing like that so you can just type startx and it will load the window manager I don't know icewm's start command
[03:29] <Pelo> rick__, dvd2avi
[03:29] <|_ocke> Pelo, whats the deal with alt then, does it have to be a differnt keystroke?
[03:29] <crdlb> Cryoniq: at boot the right nvidia module is supposed to be chosen (all three are always installed)
[03:29] <rococo> spx2: well, the way you disable it is by looking in /etc/rc2.d and changing the name of the script that starts with an S and has "gdm" in it so that it starts with a K. The way to reenable it on startup is to change it back to S. (by change I mean the filenames)
[03:29] <poningru> wastedfluid: hold on
[03:29] <rick__> I used to use DVDFab in windows, but no ver for linux
[03:30] <crdlb> Cryoniq: but sometimes it picks the wrong one, so you blacklist the other two
[03:30] <wastedfluid> poningru: thanks man
[03:30] <rococo> kitche, spx2: yes, that will also do it if you want it this way long-term
[03:30] <jason0_> Anyone know why lshal would return a volume.uuid = '' for a usb memory stick?
[03:30] <michup> hi, ive question what should i use to make my own radio auditions?
[03:30] <Cryoniq> crdlb, :) Thanks.. rebooting system now and... *looking across the room at that old box.. * hmm.. KDE failed to boot.. leaving that old blinking cursor in left upper corner.. wonder what log file say this time :P
[03:30] <|_ocke> i dont know the altcode to realize ascii codes
[03:30] <Frogzoo> jason0_: ext file system?
[03:30] <AttackPenguin> I'm building a new computer. However, I never get any video or beeps out of it. The fans and light are on. It does exactly the same when everything, even the memory is removed. Where do I start?
[03:31] <Pelo> |_ocke,  alt on the left side of the keyboard ( in dos/win anyway_ in combination with a number will select a character from a code page,   the alt-gr key on the right site of the space bar is like shift but for the character on the lower right side ofthe key
[03:31] <BENN92647> Gnea: movie player.. i finally am at least getting static in my headphones now LOL
[03:31] <Pelo> rick__,  I don'T take pms from ppl I don't know please talk to me in the chanel
[03:31] <jason0_> Frogzoo: this is a usbstick with fat16 FS
[03:31] <michup> some good recorder with mixer and able to mix records and with filters etc
[03:31] <|_ocke> seems the left alt doesnt apply the ascii codes
[03:31] <poningru> wastedfluid: go to a terminal
[03:31] <sldkfj> michup, maybe ubuntu studio?
[03:31] <usser> AttackPenguin: that might be broken cpu
[03:31] <wastedfluid> yeah
[03:31] <user_chris> I'm using a laptop that has a native resolution higher than 1024x768, but I can;t change it to anything else in the scren resolution preferences. Is there any other way to change the resolution?
[03:31] <Pelo> |_ocke,  that is the point I was making earlier
[03:32] <AttackPenguin> usser: Any way I could tell?
[03:32] <usser> AttackPenguin: corrupt memory usually makes a long beep
[03:32] <michup> in other words for proffesional audio recording and making radio autytions
[03:32] <usser> AttackPenguin: if u have a spare motherboard
[03:32] <|_ocke> damn.. i thought there was an easy solutionm
[03:32] <usser> AttackPenguin: try it
[03:32] <jarrod> got effects working- got wine working - now all need is a desk not made of cardboard
[03:32] <|_ocke> seems stupid that alt-codes dont work
[03:32] <usser> AttackPenguin: it might be motherboard too
[03:32] <novato_br> where can i find the "driver" for gpu gma950 intel ?
[03:32] <AttackPenguin> usser: no -- one motherboard, one CPU
[03:32] <Pelo> user_chris,  yuou need to add the extra resolutions you need manualy in xorg.conf   gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:32] <|_ocke> thers gottabe another way in linux
[03:32] <michup> ill check that ubuntu studio but it sounds too global
[03:32] <wastedfluid> poningru: got a terminal up
[03:32] <|_ocke> that stuff is important
[03:33] <|_ocke> and i know the codes are supportesd
[03:33] <poningru> wastedfluid: synclient TouchpadOff 3
[03:33] <poningru> err
[03:33] <kitche> |_ocke: alt works in linux but ubuntu has it turned off or something
[03:33] <rococo> user_chris: what Pelo said, but putting your resolution past native usually isn't very pretty
[03:33] <michup> ive heard about internet DJ studio but its probably not included in ubuntu repos?
[03:33] <Pelo> |_ocke,  please prefix the name of the person you are talking to , it helps keep track in a busy channel ,  and please stop using the enterkey as punctuation
[03:33] <wastedfluid> okay
[03:33] <wastedfluid> just edit xconf
[03:33] <novato_br> where can find drivers for my gpu?
[03:33] <AttackPenguin> usser: is it okay to take the heatsink off the cpu and see if it has physical damage?
[03:33] <wastedfluid> and make it option 3
[03:33] <wastedfluid> and ctrl+alt+backspace?
[03:33] <wastedfluid> k; hold on.
[03:33] <usser> AttackPenguin: i dont know of any other way to check sorry, btw there's an additional 4pin power connector on most newer motherboards, did u plug that in?
[03:33] <|_ocke> Pelo, sorry, i was speakin g informally
[03:33] <AttackPenguin> usser: yes
[03:34] <poningru> wastedfluid: no dude hold on
[03:34] <usser> AttackPenguin: its ok take it off but dont turn the comp on with heatsink off
[03:34] <Chat452> why does lame refuse to make a file thats 44.1 ?!
[03:34] <|_ocke> Pelo, i know it calls the user based on nick mention
[03:34] <Frogzoo> novato_br: apt-cache search xserver
[03:34] <AttackPenguin> usser: okay -- thanks
[03:34] <novato_br> |_ocke, are u brazilian?
[03:34] <usser> AttackPenguin: it overheats in seconds
[03:34] <Chat452> I tell it to --resample 44.1
[03:34] <|_ocke> novato_br, no
[03:34] <|_ocke> novato_br, i'm from alska
[03:34] <Pelo> |_ocke,  when you keep using the enter key you end up scrolling the channel for no good reason, making it more difficult for ppl to keep up with their own discussions
[03:34] <AttackPenguin> usser: I'll disconnect it from the wall just to make sure --
[03:34] <Chat452> but it keeps using 48
[03:34] <novato_br> Frogzoo, i'm not run linux, i'm on windows
[03:34] <pirate-king> for some reason I lost my tool bar on the bottom
[03:35] <wastedfluid> brb
[03:35] <wastedfluid> oh
[03:35] <pirate-king> can some one help me out
[03:35] <poningru> wastedfluid: hmm yeah try this
[03:35] <novato_br> i get the driver by windows, Frogzoo
[03:35] <wastedfluid> I set it to 3
[03:35] <wastedfluid> lol
[03:35] <novato_br> where can i find it?
[03:35] <wastedfluid> okay; I'm waiting
[03:35] <Pelo> pirate-king,  what doyou need ?
[03:35] <harry_> is hdcp capability hardware-based (i.e. if I plug an hdcp-capable card running Linux into a hdmi port that requires hdcp, will it work?)
[03:35] <pirate-king> for some reason I lost my tool bar on the bottom
[03:35] <We_Superstylin> quiero actualizar mi msn por el 0.96 lo baje pero luego no se que hacer :( soi novato
[03:35] <|_ocke> novato_br, Pelo, i just only have one functional hand, and its my n on-dominatnt hand, i fell asleep at my computer like 3 months ago and when i woke up 2-3 hours later my right hand didnt work anymore...
[03:36] <BENN92647> Gnea: do you think it's the devices
[03:36] <Pelo> pirate-king,  right click a free space on the top pannel and select add a pannel,  then move the new pannel to the bottom ,   right click the new bottom panne and select add to pannel  you get a lst of pannel applets you and use t restore it
[03:36] <poningru> wastedfluid: no change it to 2 not 3
[03:36] <|_ocke> novato_br, Pelo, my dominant hand i only can use one finger on anymore, so i try to save typing as much as possible
[03:36] <wastedfluid> poningru; it is on 3
[03:36] <wastedfluid> er, it is on 2
[03:36] <novato_br> sorry, |_ocke
[03:36] <wastedfluid> but the buttons below my touchpad don't work.
[03:36] <odat> how do i remove an entire directory from the command line
[03:36] <Gnea> BENN92647: i think you need to try something else, like xmms to play music
[03:36] <wastedfluid> odat; look up rm
[03:37] <|_ocke> i could type 140wpm before, now its about 30-45wpm, if i dont majke any mi8stakes
[03:37] <demonspork> How do I configure X to use Dual Displays?
[03:37] <|_ocke> every error cost sme about 2 seconds
[03:37] <usser> |_ocke: hehehe
[03:37] <kitche> odat: rmdir if the dir is empty
[03:37] <novato_br> ok
[03:37] <|_ocke> usser, yeah it sucks heh
[03:37] <todd1814_> Need help w/proftpd on Feisty...can anyone help?
[03:37] <Pelo> |_ocke, it's not like I don'T make typos myself
[03:37] <wastedfluid> poningru: I have it set on "2" - and the buttons below my touchpad still won't double click
[03:37] <rococo> odat: quick way to do it is "rm -f /path/to/directory" but be careful with it because you can seriously crew up your system if you accidentally kill the wrong directories
[03:37] <poningru> wastedfluid: oh its 1 not 2
[03:37] <wastedfluid> Okay; hold on
[03:37] <Fivetwentysix> Locke thats like really scary
[03:37] <wastedfluid> let me sudo
[03:37] <rococo> odat: sorry, I meant "rm -rf /path/to/directory"
[03:38] <Fivetwentysix> What'd the doctors say about your hand?
[03:38] <user_chris> I'm a bit lost in xorg.conf. I can see the native resolution, 1280x800 under section "screen", where it also identifies my monitor and card, but I can't select that resolution in the preferences menu, only 1024x768.
[03:38] <wastedfluid> poningru:
[03:38] <wastedfluid> poningru: I'm going to test it. brb.
[03:38] <|_ocke> Pelo, no, i made typos wen i had 2 hands, but its extremely obvious when you only have your non-dominant hand to type with (as well as do anything else with)
[03:38] <poningru> wastedfluid: and then restart X
[03:38] <poningru> right
[03:38] <usser> |_ocke: omg stop
[03:38] <|_ocke> Pelo, to be honest, i cant even effectively masturbate anymore since it happemned
[03:38] <BENN92647> Gnea: I would but it wont even play the music CD Error Playing CD   Reason: could not open resource for writing
[03:39] <|_ocke> so i havent got a nut in 3 months
[03:39] <Pelo> user_chris,  laptop you said ?   try this,  in menu > system > admin > restricted drivers, see if there is a drive there that you need but donT have installed, it may resolve the problem
[03:39] <Silent_G> lol
[03:39] <SubOne> How do I install a "deb" file? http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=558
[03:39] <cjae> |_ocke, I had that happen with my leg
[03:39] <|_ocke> well, except when my ex0-gfs baby-daddy was in  jail last month
[03:39] <Pelo> |_ocke,  family freindly channel
[03:39] <Silent_G> |_ocke
[03:39] <Cryoniq> crdlb, problem is that I am trying to switch to the nvidia proprietary driver, but it fails. When changing to nv driver it works right off. Seemed to have something to do with the screens so I changed to proprietary and copy pasted the screen modes over to new one and got it working. Then.. he he.. I decided to try Linux MCE install on this Kubuntu 7.04 and sometime during the installation something was changed and it failed again,
[03:39] <Silent_G> try building a terminator hand?
[03:39] <poningru> SubOne: double click on it or from terminal sudo dpkg -i something.deb
[03:39] <|_ocke> then i did her good heh
[03:39] <Silent_G> LOL
[03:39] <|_ocke> er
[03:39] <|_ocke> sorry
[03:39] <Silent_G> |_ocke try building a mechanical one?
[03:40] <user_chris> there's only one driver on the restricted list, but it's enabled and in use
[03:40] <SubOne> poningru: double clicking it opens in ark.. lemme try that command...
[03:40] <Pelo> !offtopic
[03:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:40] <Fivetwentysix> Drill a hole in the wall
[03:40] <|_ocke> SilenceGold, i've been thinking of getting metal legs.....
[03:40] <Silent_G> hmm
[03:40] <poningru> SubOne: what version are you running? of Ubuntu I mean
[03:40] <Silent_G> you should see terminator the movie
[03:40] <Silent_G> and get some ideas from it |_ocke
[03:40] <crdlb> Cryoniq: the DISABLED_MODULES thing didn't work?
[03:40] <BENN92647> Gnea: is there a way to reset all of the sound to sometype of default setting?
[03:40] <SubOne> fiesty
[03:40] <|_ocke> can you believe theres tv commercials fpr zwinky.com opn evey channel now?
[03:40] <Gnea> BENN92647: what about mp3's?
[03:40] <demonspork> How do I configure X to use Dual Displays?
[03:41] <cjae> |_ocke,  I was sick with the norwalk flu and knelt in front of the toilet to long pinched nerve in lower leg (foot drop)
[03:41] <wastedfluid> poningru:  still can't double click with buttons below synaptic
[03:41] <v3n0m`> Flannel: UT2004
[03:41] <BENN92647> Gnea: do you know a site I can test it with?
[03:41] <Pelo> demonspork,  check in the forums there are a few howtos in there  www.ubuntuforums.com
[03:41] <pirate-king> hey I lost my bar on the bottom
[03:41] <demonspork> !dual
[03:41] <pirate-king> how do I restore it
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <|_ocke> why couldnt i score moolah off that ? ive had way better ideas than a naked cartoon avatar you drag bikinis and sunglasses onto since like 1995
[03:41] <Pelo> pirate-king,  right click a free space on the top pannel and select add a pannel,  then move the new pannel to the bottom ,   right click the new bottom panne and select add to pannel  you get a lst of pannel applets you and use t restore it
[03:41] <|_ocke> why cant i be rich like those jerks
[03:41] <poningru> wastedfluid: I thought you wanted to turn it all off
[03:41] <rococo> wastedfluid: if you put your xorg.conf in a pastebin, I'll take a look at it
[03:42] <poningru> wastedfluid: just man synaptics
[03:42] <Gnea> BENN92647: http://shoutcast.com
[03:42] <wastedfluid> poningru: I originally used the setting '2'
[03:42] <WaxyFresh> in gaim when you initate a direct connect where does log your friends ip?
[03:42] <Pelo> !offtopic | |_ocke
[03:42] <ubotu> |_ocke: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:42] <usser> |_ocke: cause u only have one hand duh
[03:42] <SubOne> poningru: I'm on Kubuntu Fiesty, I am installing the dependancies required by the package now, ty
[03:42] <Cryoniq> crdlb, it seem to done something because it doesn't complain about version mismatch anymore. Log file now tells: Failed to load NVIDIA kernel module!
[03:42] <wastedfluid> I originalled used the setting '2' - but I can't duble click with my bottom two mouse buttons
[03:42] <wastedfluid> rococo: give me a second bro
[03:42] <|_ocke> cjae, i was reading about foot droop earlier today in relation to king loius XVIII i think on wikipedia
[03:42] <rococo> wastedfluid: oh, it's a problem that only pops up in synaptic? or you can't double-click at all?
[03:42] <pirate-king> that is a panel I need the bar where you can have 4 diffrennt desk tops on it
[03:42] <Pelo> !offtopic | |_ocke
[03:42] <ubotu> |_ocke: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:42] <cjae> |_ocke, sucks tripping up stairs
[03:42] <Gnea> BENN92647: you may need to configure the output that xmms uses by default
[03:43] <crdlb> Cryoniq: oh yay, does anything happen if you: sudo modprobe nvidia ?
[03:43] <Pelo> pirate-king,   you add that to the pannel from the rigth click menu
[03:43] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok how do I do that?
[03:43] <|_ocke> :( i know.. i was just trying to continue my convop with the same users :(
[03:43] <|_ocke> sorry im pathetic
[03:43] <Silent_G> you are...
[03:43] <SubOne> poningru: is there a comman dline option i can use to auto get dependancies?
[03:43] <wastedfluid> rococo: No.. I mean, I can't dobule click with my synaptic touchpad buttons.. I don't want the touchpad to be able to click; the setting "2" is correct for me.. but, I want to be able to double click with my two buttons BELOW the touchpad on my laptop
[03:43] <cjae> |_ocke, almost better now took me about 5-6 months
[03:43] <cjae> |_ocke, interesting driving
[03:43] <bruenig> Subhuman, for a particular deb package you can do "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb ; sudo apt-get install -f"
[03:43] <poningru> SubOne: it should have done it
[03:43] <Gnea> BENN92647: just right click on it and choose the preferences under options
[03:44] <rococo> wastedfluid: that's a weird one, but go ahead and pastebin it and I'll give it a go
[03:44] <|_ocke> cjae, wish mine was, itsd exactly the same as the first night it happened :P
[03:44] <wastedfluid> http://pastebin.ca/501437
[03:44] <nelsonuwp> are there any good gimp tutorials that take you through an entire picture?
[03:44] <SubOne> poningru: it says that the depends werent installed
[03:44] <nelsonuwp> im just starting
[03:44] <wastedfluid> There you go, rococo
[03:44] <Gnea> BENN92647: it's pretty stright-forward - make sure ALSA is the selected output plugin
[03:44] <Cryoniq> crdlb, hmm.. it says it is not loading nvidia module, because it isn't used in xorg.conf :D
[03:44] <pirate-king> that isn't what I had
[03:44] <wastedfluid> Like, on the setting 2 - it was perfect.  Touchpad wasn't going crazy.. but I can't double click with my two mouse buttons below my touchpad on my laptop
[03:44] <Gnea> BENN92647: it'll use the first soundcard by default (the built-in nvidia)
[03:44] <WaxyFresh> where does gaim log records of ip's from direct conect sessions?
[03:44] <|_ocke> so, anyone have any clue how i can make alsa redetect my sound card
[03:44] <pirate-king> when I minimize the web browser it goes away
[03:44] <|_ocke> i swapped the current HD to a new CPU/mobo
[03:44] <intenz> HI guys ! how do i go to my computer/ my documents and videos?
[03:45] <|_ocke> and its the same onboard via chipset for sound
[03:45] <intenz> how do i go to my videoz
[03:45] <Frogzoo> !ops
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[03:45] <intenz> !OPS
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[03:45] <Gnea> owned.
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[03:45] <intenz> !ops
[03:45] <Pelo> pirate-king,  right click the new bottom panel  select  add to pannel, from the list  select  the desktop swither thingy,  and the windows list  and the desktop closeing thing
[03:45] <Gnea> !ops
[03:45] <Pelo> sigh
[03:45] <Silent_G> wtF?
[03:45] <Silent_G> O_O
[03:45] <Cryoniq> 0o
[03:45] <Frogzoo> thx LjL
[03:46] <wastedfluid> yeah
[03:46] <Pelo> pirate-king,  right click the new bottom panel  select  add to pannel, from the list  select  the desktop swither thingy,  and the windows list  and the desktop closeing thing
[03:46] <|_ocke> crap
[03:46] <Silent_G> what was that?
[03:46] <intenz> Guys how do i turn off my computer? :S
[03:46] <wastedfluid> rococo: Okay.  I can't doubel click in Banshee.. on different songs.  I have to use the << and >> buttons to get it to work right..
[03:46] <|_ocke> how cabn i registwer
[03:46] <Silent_G> proxies ? -_-
[03:46] <raxor> crdlb, sorry, I was trying to read what you were saying earlier but lost the backscroll what is the "DISABLED OPTIONS thing"
[03:46] <Cryoniq> If all those spammers would do something constructive, we would have starships tomorrow.. sigh..
[03:46] <Silent_G> old anoying proxies? -_-
[03:46] <PriceChild> !register | |_ocke
[03:46] <ubotu> |_ocke: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:46] <nixternal> ya, I love how the ban kicked in 5 minutes later :)
[03:46] <MikeStyle> Hi, im having some trouble with ubuntu 7.04 desktop effects...it says they cannot be enabled...i've tried glxinfo | grep direct and it says direct rendering: No....im using an ati radeon mobility 9600...can anyone help me?
[03:46] <poningru> SubOne: yeah it should have automatically gotten the dependencies from repositories if it existed in the repo
[03:46] <Frogzoo> intenz: quit
[03:46] <cjae> what causes stuff like that          curiosity  total irc noob
[03:46] <PriceChild> Lets please get back on topic everyone.
[03:46] <Pelo> |_ocke,  /nickserv register help
[03:47] <rococo> wastedfluid: okay, looking now
[03:47] <poningru> SubOne: since the dependencies do not exist in the repo it couldnt get them
[03:47] <crdlb> raxor: if the wrong nvidia kernel modules is being loaded, it's a way to force the right one to be
[03:47] <poningru> SubOne: so you have to go download the dependencies for it
[03:47] <Gnea> LjL:  *!*@adsl-75-16-242-181.dsl.kntpin.sbcglobal.net *!*@ppp-71-128-207-82.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net *!*@c-24-91-191-233.hsd1.ma.comcast.net *!*@ool-18ba2c7b.dyn.optonline.net *!*@75-131-170-173.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com *!*@71.16.119.149 *!*@adsl-68-126-142-174.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net *!*@c-69-139-234-226.hsd1.md.comcast.net *!*@c-68-59-95-59.hsd1.fl.comcast.net *!*@c-71-228-58-109.hsd1.il.comcast.net *!*@ CPE000795d59dd4-CM00186851c2f8.c
[03:47] <SubOne> poningru: well it says jackd was in there, but also has dependancies when i tried to install that
[03:47] <WaxyFresh> where does gaim log ip addys from direct connect sessions?
[03:47] <anandanbu> can someone tell me the tools for recording my desktop and how do i install it
[03:47] <Gnea> LjL: hope that helps
[03:47] <raxor> crdlb, what is the command?
[03:47] <nelsonuwp> are there any good gimp tutorials that take you through an entire picture?... im just starting
[03:47] <LjL> Gnea: thanks
[03:48] <nixternal> Gnea: big thanks for that
[03:48] <nixternal> now we don't have to scroll up ;)
[03:48] <poningru> !gimp
[03:48] <Gnea> :)
[03:48] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[03:48] <Fivetwentysix> Is the Nvidia 7600 GT running on AMD64 platform supported?
[03:48] <Cryoniq> oh.. maybe what I said got lost in that chaos above.. he he
[03:48] <|_ocke> k i think im identified
[03:48] <Pelo> anandanbu, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager  search for  recordmydesktop or smeting similar
[03:48] <|_ocke> can you see this?
[03:48] <MikeStyle> I hope you will all scroll up to see my issue plz :D
[03:48] <Cryoniq> crdlb, hmm.. it says it is not loading nvidia module, because it isn't used in xorg.conf :D
[03:48] <crdlb> raxor: in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common, set DISABLED_MODULES="nvidia_legacy nvidia_new"
[03:48] <raxor> crdlb, as near as I can tell that is my error... I tried to overwrite it with the drivers from nvidias site but it is still not working correctly...
[03:48] <pirate-king> yeah got that but the bar
[03:48] <raxor> cool
[03:48] <Pelo> |_ocke,  the channel is no longer moderated
[03:48] <|_ocke> i was regd on dalnet and undernet like 14 years ago
[03:48] <|_ocke> ok
[03:48] <pirate-king> but it didn't go acrross the bottom
[03:48] <crdlb> raxor: or use nvidia instead of nvidia_new
[03:48] <SubOne> poningru: hold on completing steps the command line output suggested
[03:49] <Silent_G> they flooded gentoo too O_o
[03:49] <crdlb> raxor: if you're using the 9755 driver
[03:49] <raxor> yeah, I think I am
[03:49] <Gnea> nixternal: i think i put a space in there by mistake
[03:49] <|_ocke> so anyways
[03:49] <SubOne> poningru: i think it worked
[03:49] <Fivetwentysix> Is the Nvidia 7600 GT running on AMD64 platform supported?
[03:49] <|_ocke> real question...
[03:49] <|_ocke> so, anyone have any clue how i can make alsa redetect my sound card
[03:49] <Slart> is there nothing I can do to kill zombie processes? kill -9 etc doesn't work
[03:49] <rococo> wastedfluid: am I right in thinking that you turned off touchepad doubleclicking entirely, but it also disabled doubleclicking on the buttons?
[03:49] <Cryoniq> going to try run the xorg display config again and maybe I am lucky he he
[03:49] <Gnea> Fivetwentysix: yes
[03:49] <|_ocke> i swapped the current HD to a new CPU/mobo
[03:49] <wastedfluid> rococo: yes..
[03:49] <|_ocke> and its the same onboard via chipset for sound
[03:50] <wastedfluid> The TurnTouchpadOff setting is now '2'
[03:50] <rococo> wastedfluid: okay, just getting caught up - I missed the beginnings of the issue
[03:50] <cjae> what causes stuff like that          curiosity  total irc noob those floods of the channel
[03:50] <poningru> SubOne: awesome
[03:50] <Slart> !zombie
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zombie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <_hp_> getting dual display running under ubuntu is damn hard
[03:50] <|_ocke> but now the volume doesnt control it abd i dont have anything excepot visual out[puit
[03:50] <Gnea> cjae: spyware.
[03:50] <Pelo> Slart,  I asked earlier    kill the parrent or reboot is hat I was told
[03:50] <MikeStyle> did anyone see my issue? plz i need help =\
[03:50] <demonspork> What do I do if nvidia-settings isn't detecting the second monitor?
[03:50] <poningru> MikeStyle: whats wrong?
[03:51] <MikeStyle> Hi, im having some trouble with ubuntu 7.04 desktop effects...it says they cannot be enabled...i've tried glxinfo | grep direct and it says direct rendering: No....im using an ati radeon mobility 9600...can anyone help me?
[03:51] <SubOne> poningru: damn it lives was unable to open the file... is there no way to edit video from my camera (quicktime mov)
[03:51] <Pelo> cjea can yuou pleas stop pasting stuff,  those are ban of flod bots
[03:51] <cjae> Gnea, what like on ppls boxes
[03:51] <v3n0m`> FLANNEL!
[03:51] <Slart> Pelo: grumble grumble... worlds greatest os.. and I get undead in it... just my luck =)
[03:51] <BENN92647> Gnea: GF is now home making this 10 times more difficult uggh
[03:51] <Gnea> cjae: where else do you find spyware?
[03:51] <poningru> SubOne: there are many such as kdenlive or cineramma or kino etc.
[03:51] <raxor> cjae: "Failed to load module "nvidia" module does not exist"
[03:51] <Pelo> Slart,  just keep a pointy spike handy you'll be fine
[03:52] <ionstorm> whats the best way to encrypt my whole ubuntu partition without reinstalling everything
[03:52] <BENN92647> Gnea: can i uninstall all of the Linux movie player and music players and download and install one that will work?
[03:52] <Slart> Pelo: hehe.. I'll do so... well I guess they don't use any memory and no processor time.. it just annoys me that they are there
[03:52] <cjae> Gnea,  got lots of ppl with win boxes
[03:52] <raxor> cjae: should I assume the install went bad and try again... or is this kind of thing pretty common?
[03:52] <cjae> raxor, you are talking to wrong person
[03:52] <Gnea> BENN92647: er, i don't know - you just need to make sure your speakers are plugged into the right ports and that your applications are pointed at the correct sound devices
[03:52] <raxor> cjae, whoops!
[03:53] <Slart> ionstorm: from what I've read, all the encryption software that does encryption of volumes will empty then volume when they encrypt it.. ie no encrypting in place
[03:53] <raxor> crdlb: should I assume the install went bad and try again... or is this kind of thing pretty common?
[03:53] <Pelo> Slart, agreed, but I'm 44 minutes from seing if the mod I made to my uptime display script is gonna works I'm not rebooting
[03:53] <poningru> MikeStyle: you cant use aiglx with that card
[03:53] <poningru> Mikelevel: which is what beryl relies on
[03:53] <ionstorm> Slart, ok
[03:53] <v3n0m`> how can I set the permissions for the usr folder and subfolders temporarily to allow all (it says I'm not root) [I'm trying to install a game] 
[03:53] <|_ocke> has anyone encountered the MySWebSearch toolbar on firefox linux?
[03:53] <khermans> how can i remove all packages ending in "-doc" using apt or aptitude?
[03:53] <Slart> ionstorm: but go check out truecrypt.. they might have come up with something clever
[03:53] <poningru> MikeStyle: yeah that card only does 2d
[03:53] <rococo> wastedfluid: you might be able to fix it by changing what the duration of a "click" is. I think the option is "clicktime" but you can find a table of them at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad#Summary_of_Options
[03:53] <|_ocke> i actually saw it once
[03:54] <crdlb> raxor: if you're going to use the nvidia installer, you need DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[03:54] <Gnea> cjae: it's just a pyramid scheme
[03:54] <wastedfluid> Oh.  I remember
[03:54] <poningru> SubOne: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg34t5.htm
[03:54] <Slart> khermans: sudo apt-get remove *-doc ?
[03:54] <Pelo> |_ocke,  check the ff site for extensions and pluggins,
[03:54] <wastedfluid> I set my double click REALLY low
[03:54] <poningru> SubOne: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92934.html
[03:54] <wastedfluid> LOL.
[03:54] <wastedfluid> Wow.
[03:54] <|_ocke> i just disabled the enxtejnsiopjm from about:config
[03:54] <kitche> |_ocke: umm not that I know of but could be but it's spyware and ztwinky.com needs it
[03:54] <khermans> slackwarelife, dont think so
[03:54] <rococo> heh
[03:54] <wastedfluid> rococo:  I'm sorry for wasting your time by me being a dumbass dude.
[03:54] <wastedfluid> I really am.
[03:54] <khermans> Slart, ^
[03:54] <MikeStyle> poningru:ive seen other people online solve this issue with the same card with the "ati restricted drivers"...but i have those enabled...plus im not using beryl just the built in ubuntu 7.04 desktop effects
[03:54] <rollerskatejamms> If I have an ATA133 ide drive, and a computer that can only handle ATA100, will it scale down?
[03:54] <NemesisD> hi how would I go about setting JAVA_HOME in ubuntu? I just installed j2re which i'm assuming is what I need but this script says JAVA_HOME isnt set
[03:54] <rococo> wastedfluid: it happens ;-)
[03:54] <Slart> khermans: you might want to do that with the -s switch first.. just in case (-s  is simulate, nothing really happens)
[03:54] <|_ocke> whjich worked, buit maybe they';re coming up with enw innovations in linux spyuware
[03:54] <wastedfluid> Okay
[03:54] <wastedfluid> time to exit
[03:54] <v3n0m`> how can I set the permissions for the usr folder and subfolders temporarily to allow all (it says I'm not owner) [I'm trying to install a game] 
[03:54] <wastedfluid> well
[03:55] <kitche> v3n0m`: you don't use sudo
[03:55] <BENN92647> Gnea: thank you for helping...from what you say eveything is fine, I am just at a loss for why it wont play thru my headphones..does Linux not know what headphones are?
[03:55] <wastedfluid> rococo: do you know the difference between the Turnofftouchpad codes
[03:55] <|_ocke> it was on the comp of someone who had like 200 new pieces of spyware daily in windows
[03:55] <wastedfluid> IE; 1, 2, 3, 4, etc? or is that on that webpage?
[03:55] <poningru> MikeStyle: hmm use #ubuntu-effects for more help then cause I have no idea sorry
[03:55] <|_ocke> oibviously it was the first piece of spyware encoun tered in 8 months of using linux
[03:55] <v3n0m`> kitche: the game won't let me choose what commands, it has a built-in installer
[03:55] <rococo> wastedfluid: 0 is enabled, 1 is off, and 2 is tapping and scrolling only off
[03:55] <|_ocke> but i wish i knew how it happened
[03:55] <Gnea> BENN92647: no it doesn't, it only knows what ports to turn on and off and which to adjust
[03:55] <kitche> v3n0m`: run the installer with sudo
[03:55] <wastedfluid> Hm.  I want touchpad off.. so 1 is definately the setting I should use.
[03:55] <spx2> how do i change so that i can put icons on desktop in icewm ?
[03:56] <rococo> wastedfluid: I think that will make ALL of it off
[03:56] <Bino> rollerskatejamms: yes i'll work
[03:56] <SurfnKid> how can i change the date format in ubuntu
[03:56] <SurfnKid> mm/dd/yy
[03:56] <SurfnKid> dd/mm/yy
[03:56] <wastedfluid> Nah.  I'm on 1 atm..
[03:56] <wastedfluid> and my scrollbars work.
[03:56] <wastedfluid> Or atleast, I hope so..
[03:56] <Pelo> |_ocke,   does the sentence off topic mean anyting to you ? this is a support channel ,  for chit chat please goto #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:56] <Toma-> spx2: you cant really, but you can get fbdesk or even xfdesktop
[03:56] <v3n0m`> kitche: ill try that (something like 'sudo linux-installer.sh' right? )
[03:56] <Gnea> BENN92647: which card do you have the headphones plugged into?
[03:56] <rollerskatejamms> Bino, You'll work? Great! Make me a sandwich.
[03:56] <spx2> Toma-, what are those ?
[03:56] <pirate-king> why doeas it alway stay in the ceneter
[03:56] <BENN92647> Gnea: my diamond sound card
[03:56] <kitche> SurfnKid: man date it tells you in there it's like a regexpr
[03:56] <wastedfluid> Hm; what should I use? I forgot what I was using originally, rococo
[03:56] <|_ocke> Pelo, i thought discussion of spyware in linux was on-topic
[03:56] <Gnea> BENN92647: oh, the c-media?
[03:56] <SurfnKid> kitche, coolers
[03:56] <wastedfluid> I don't want the touchpad clicking.. so I think 1 is the right option
[03:56] <SurfnKid> :)
[03:57] <kitche> v3n0m`: yeam might have to give sudo the full path though
[03:57] <BENN92647> Gnea: yes
[03:57] <wastedfluid> I don't want my touchpad clicking at all.
[03:57] <bk123456> Is ubuntu a good distro if you like easy to use (I've heard good things about this) but also like to be able to use the command line to do stuff (install stuff, compile, configure, etc.).
[03:57] <Toma-> spx2: programs that make you have icons on your desktop
[03:57] <wastedfluid> rococo: 1 will turn off the touchpads ability to click.. or it just disables the entire touchpad?
[03:57] <Slart> Does anyone here use the Azuentech or Bluegears soundcards? thinking of getting one if it's supported under linux
[03:57] <poningru> bk123456: yes
[03:57] <BENN92647> Ubuntu rules!
[03:57] <Gnea> BENN92647: ok, do this then - with xmms open, right click on it and open preferences, change the output plugin to ALSA, if it isn't already
[03:57] <rococo> wastedfluid: I think 1 will make the touchpad not even move when you use it, so if you don't want the touchpad to register 'taps' as clicks, put it on 2, and you can still move the mouse with it
[03:57] <poningru> bk123456: but we are probably a bit biased
[03:57] <Gnea> BENN92647: then click on 'configure'
[03:57] <wastedfluid> Okay.  2 it is
[03:57] <Slart> bk123456: sounds like ubuntu is what you want
[03:57] <BENN92647> except it likes to mess with your sound constantly
[03:57] <poningru> bk123456: you may want outside opinions
[03:57] <bk123456> I would assume so...
[03:58] <|_ocke> Pelo, as well as reconfiguring alsa to support my new mobo/onboard soundcard
[03:58] <wastedfluid> brb.
[03:58] <Gnea> BENN92647: then change the audio device from hw:0,0 to hw:1,0
[03:58] <spx2> Toma-, can i get a file explorer etc ?
[03:58] <|_ocke> i thought i stopped discussing my offtopic subjects immediately after you said that'
[03:58] <BENN92647> Gnea: how do i open xmms?
[03:58] <spx2> Toma-, i dont want a fullblown desktop tough...
[03:58] <Fivetwentysix> Yay i'm so happy
[03:58] <Fivetwentysix> I installed my graphic card driver
[03:58] <Fivetwentysix> it's sooo much smoother now
[03:58] <Slart> bk123456: there are some other distros that also try to be easy-to-migrate-to-from-windows.. I don't remember names now.. but do a little googling
[03:58] <Gnea> BENN92647: click on 'ok', then click on 'ok', then quit xmms, then reopen xmms - just type xmms in a terminal window
[03:58] <Pelo> |_ocke,  I can'T help you with that,  restate your problem periodicaly maybe someone else will be able to help
[03:58] <Toma-> spx2: fbdesk is for you then.
[03:59] <v3n0m`> kitche: how can I browse to a mounted drive in the terminal
[03:59] <Slart> bk123456: but of course.. ubuntu has this wonderful support channel.. hard to beat that ;)
[03:59] <spx2> Toma-,  WOOOOOOOOOHAAAAAAAA !!!
[03:59] <SubOne> poningru: you mean cinelerra? i tried that one too
[03:59] <bk123456> Slart, Well, I'm already on linux... not ubuntu though...
[03:59] <BENN92647> Gnea: its not installed
[03:59] <Toma-> spx2: ?!
[03:59] <Gnea> BENN92647: apt-get install xmms
[03:59] <SubOne> poningru: what would be a good video format to try to convert this to to work with it?
[03:59] <raxor> crdlb, okay I got a little lost, but I got x to start.... I used the driver "nv" in my xorg.conf after doing a sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new and setting DISABLED_MODULES to "nvidia_legacy nv"-- I am sure I have done something wrong but it is working ;)
[03:59] <demonspork> !compile < demonspork
[04:00] <spx2> Toma-, do i need to reboot ?
[04:00] <demonspork> !compile > demonspork
[04:00] <Pelo> demonspork,   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[04:00] <|_ocke> well... i changed my HD from a p3-1ghz comp to a athlonxp 3000+ box, with 256mb DDR2, and a geforce fx5500 card (which was also in the celeron) and booted it.. changed the swap partition to a new drive so i
[04:00] <Toma-> spx2: for fbdesk? no. you need to run it, and make it run each time you start a new session
[04:00] <BENN92647> Gnea: sudo apt-get install its installing
[04:00] <Slart> bk123456: oh.... then you should have no problems... it's still a normal linux system, as far as I can tell, you still have the basic debian stuff if you want it
[04:00] <crdlb> raxor: I think you're using a mix of the nvidia installer and the ubuntu packages though
[04:00] <|_ocke>  so i have 4gb of swap space since it was performing abysmally
[04:00] <wastedfluid> rococo: "2" doesn't disable the "clicking"
[04:00] <Fivetwentysix> Is there any way to switch to KDE from Gnome?
[04:00] <BENN92647> Gnea: i got error codes
[04:00] <Gnea> BENN92647: ok, it should be in the menu afterward
[04:00] <raxor> crdlb, that seems bad.. right/
[04:00] <Fivetwentysix> Without like reinstalling the whole operating system
[04:00] <Gnea> BENN92647: such as?
[04:00] <poningru> SubOne: did you try kino?
[04:00] <crdlb> raxor: so it may break when the next kernel upgrade happens
[04:00] <raxor> hmmm
[04:01] <Slart> Fivetwentysix: install the KDE desktop package.. you can have both
[04:01] <wastedfluid> my touchpad still clicks.. but I can live with it.  I have one additional question for you.  Sometimes, if anything is on my clipboard.. when I click on a text box, it pastes whatever is in my clipboard.  any idea, rococo?
[04:01] <|_ocke> the video card works great, especially since it s the same card in the same (effective) slot
[04:01] <crdlb> raxor: no it's not that big of a deal though since they're the same version
[04:01] <Pelo> Fivetwentysix,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:01] <raxor> crdlb, well I just installed, would you recommend reinstalling and starting again with my sanity hat on?
[04:01] <|_ocke> but the sound doesnt work.. i have no soun d output, but it is tghe same soundboard, sdame chipset and everything, but differnt motherboard maybe different address
[04:01] <BENN92647> Fetched 813kB in 2s (381kB/s)
[04:01] <BENN92647> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[04:01] <BENN92647>   Major opcode:  147
[04:01] <BENN92647>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:01] <spx2> Toma-, ive been to .fluxbox/fbdesk.icons this
[04:01] <spx2> Desktop Entry] 
[04:01] <spx2> Name=default
[04:01] <spx2> Exec=
[04:01] <spx2> Icon=
[04:01] <spx2> Pos= 32 32
[04:01] <spx2> [end] 
[04:02] <bk123456> Slart, Yeah.. I was really worried about it dumbing it down too far for my taste...
[04:02] <|_ocke> it doesnmt seem to autodetect iot, opr it does but nop actual sound outputy
[04:02] <spx2> Toma-, how do i add icons to my desktop ?
[04:02] <Pelo> !sound > |_ocke   check pm for instructions from ubotu
[04:02] <crdlb> !baddevice | BENN92647
[04:02] <Frogzoo> spx2: pastebin, thx
[04:02] <wastedfluid> start using pastebin..
[04:02] <ubotu> BENN92647: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[04:02] <Toma-> spx2: dont. paste. in. the channel.
[04:02] <|_ocke> other programs can work with the output (visualization etc) but no sound
[04:02] <pegger> has anyone used firewall builder, I am getting confused on how it works, eg are all hosts supose to be in one file???
[04:02] <rococo> wastedfluid: it still clicks even though you restarted X? Odd... anyway, the clipboard thing, I'm afraid I haven't a clue
[04:02] <Slart> bk123456: there is a live-cd.. why not try it.. see if you like it
[04:02] <spx2> Toma-, how do i add icons to it ?
[04:02] <crdlb> raxor: only if you want to :)
[04:02] <Toma-> spx2: you can read the documentation here. http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbdesk/
[04:02] <BENN92647> Gnea: is ubotu a real person?
[04:03] <Slart> !bot
[04:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:03] <Pelo> !botsnack
[04:03] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:03] <bk123456> I know, downloading it now
[04:03] <anandanbu_> the recordmydesktop app doesn't work for me can someone help
[04:03] <v3n0m`> one of my mounted volumes has (vcd) following the name.. how can I open this in terminal
[04:03] <BENN92647> LOL!
[04:03] <|_ocke> alsa is selected btw, and works as far as programs are concerned
[04:03] <Slart> BENN92647: did that answer your question? =)
[04:03] <Gnea> BENN92647: no :)
[04:03] <BENN92647> I lvoe you Ubotu!
[04:03] <wastedfluid> rococo: perhaps a restart will work.  Let me bother you one with one additional question.  It takes my connection forever to resolve any domain, and it takes along time to load webpages.. and even connect to IRC>  a speed test reveals my connection is still fast(as fast as it was on Windows), but it seems as if the DNS takes forever.  Any ideas?
[04:03] <|_ocke> even  oscilliscope type outputs work flawlessly
[04:03] <raxor> crdlb, well I think I may... it seems like a good time for it... and now I think I can go from scratch without a bunch of weird stuff... that was always the problem with my dapper install :)
[04:03] <|_ocke> but no actual sound through speakers
[04:03] <Slart> !thanks | BENN92647
[04:03] <ubotu> BENN92647: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:03] <BENN92647> Gnea: so i guess it installed ok so now what
[04:04] <Gnea> BENN92647: see if it's in the sound applications menu
[04:04] <BENN92647> LOL..it's o.k my GF says I am in love with computers
[04:04] <rococo> wastedfluid: does it do this with every single page, or only when you first start using the internet?
[04:04] <BENN92647> Gnea: how do I do that
[04:04] <guerrillawon> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu, I've installed and uninstalled various things through synaptic, aptitude etc. I was wondering if there is a catalog of all installed packages I can go through to clean up my system?
[04:04] <wastedfluid> rococo: It does it with every page; if I browsed the page before, it's quicker.
[04:04] <Gnea> BENN92647: click on the applications menu and look...
[04:04] <Slart> wastedfluid: you could try disabling ipv6 if your ISP doesn't use it.. I think there is some issues with dns and ipv6.. something about trying ipv6 first and if that don't work, do it normally. that would create some kind of lag I guess
[04:04] <BENN92647> synoptic packet manager
[04:04] <|_ocke> grrr i want the popularity of that BS spyuware zwinky.com crap :(
[04:05] <wastedfluid> Slart: how do I do that?  I don't know what comcast uses.
[04:05] <Fivetwentysix> What's more popular KDE or Gnome?
[04:05] <wastedfluid> but it takes FOREVER to resolve domains.  Windows doesn't have the problem.
[04:05] <Slart> guerrillawon: run synaptic and chose installed packages as a filter.. there are buttons to the left
[04:05] <BENN92647> Gnea: i got it it's sooooo tiny :)
[04:05] <|_ocke> i ahve way better content and respect for my customers than that :P
[04:05] <guerrillawon> Ok, I saw that but wasn't sure if it showed all installed packages.
[04:05] <Slart> wastedfluid: windows doesn't have ipv6 installed by default.. ubuntu has that
[04:05] <guerrillawon> I'll use that, thanks man.
[04:05] <wastedfluid> Slart; awesome.  Must be the problem.  how do I disable IPV6? have a link..?
[04:06] <|_ocke> why couldnt i be in the right place and time to make billionms from some stupid gif avataqr site
[04:06] <wastedfluid> I don't want to bug you too much.  I've been bugging you guys ALL night.
[04:06] <Slart> wastedfluid: there are probably lots of ways.. one is to blacklist the ipv6 module
[04:06] <wastedfluid> How do I do that?
[04:06] <|_ocke> i cant evern afford to eat if i dont find some gimmick or work to do :(
[04:06] <Slart> wastedfluid: hang on.. I'll see if I can remember what I did... it was some time ago
[04:06] <wastedfluid> You are talking to someone who is fairly new; my biggest accomplishments were editing xorg.conf and installing gsnaptics through a terminal.. lol
[04:06] <BENN92647> Gnea: how do i use it?
[04:07] <Gnea> BENN92647: ever used winamp?
[04:07] <EpP> whats the command to reset all my interfaces?
[04:07] <|_ocke> in fact i havent even been able to eat moer than the bottled water provided at my job since night before last, an d i have my own webcomic :P
[04:07] <Slart> wastedfluid: ah.. you're on the path to enlightenment then =) this should be a piece of cake =)
[04:07] <EpP> network interfaces*
[04:07] <BENN92647> Gnea: yes but it doesnt auto recognize my cdrom
[04:07] <wastedfluid> Slart: you guys make this stuff so much easier.  i would have given up by now.. I'm sticking around here.
[04:07] <v3n0m`> is it possible to right click on a folder in the file browser and open a terminal window with the prompt of that directory?
[04:07] <|_ocke> makes me want to do a lot of drugs i cant afford to do anyways
[04:08] <Gnea> BENN92647: it's different - it loads tracks as files
[04:08] <|_ocke> jerks
[04:08] <raxor> |_ocke, who are you talking to???
[04:08] <|Zippo|> somebody use skype-rec at feisty?
[04:08] <spx2> Toma-, but isnt this configuring by hand/manual of icons to appear on desktop kinda prehistoric/precambrian stylke ?
[04:08] <Pelo> v3n0m`,  just open a terminal window and drag the folder to it
[04:08] <BENN92647> Gnea: and it doesnt read all formats
[04:08] <spx2> Toma-, *style
[04:08] <Slart> wastedfluid: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html heres a page from the forums.. basically you have to find one file and edit one line in it, then reboot..read the whole page though.. there might be other tricks around
[04:08] <wastedfluid> thanks; reaidng now
[04:08] <|_ocke> raxor, nobody in particular.. but the alsa [problems were to anybody with info
[04:08] <Gnea> BENN92647: whoa, what?
[04:08] <wastedfluid> it takes forever to resolve domains
[04:08] <wastedfluid> so it'll be a good 15 seconds or so.  lol
[04:08] <Gnea> BENN92647: methinks you have much to learn yet lol
[04:08] <Slart> !ipv6
[04:08] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:09] <Slart> tadaaaa!
[04:09] <Pelo> !sound | |_ocke
[04:09] <ubotu> |_ocke: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:09] <Gnea> BENN92647: do you have any mp3s lying around?
[04:09] <Fivetwentysix> I clicked on "Desktop Effects" and got an error box stating: The Composite Extension is Not Available
[04:09] <|_ocke> i thought alsa was supposed to be able to autodetect
[04:09] <Slart> !ipv6 | wastedfluid
[04:09] <ubotu> wastedfluid: please see above
[04:09] <|_ocke> Pelo, iove donme all that
[04:09] <rococo> Slart: I literally had that link in the clipboard, but you beat me to it. Nice shootin', Tex!
[04:09] <Gnea> BENN92647: actually - if you go to that shoutcast site and click on a 'tune in!' link, it should give you the option of opening it in xmms
[04:09] <|_ocke> it thinks its working correctly
[04:09] <BENN92647> Gnea: cool
[04:09] <Pelo> |_ocke,  check the forum then
[04:10] <Slart> didn't think ubotu knew about ipv6.. he's actually starting to earn all those bot snacks =)
[04:10] <Gnea> BENN92647: now, whether or not it plays through your headphones will be up to you ;)
[04:10] <EpP> Whats the command to resest my network interfaces. I have just changed it to dhcp and i dont want to restart
[04:10] <spx2> anyone here use fbdesk ?
[04:10] <|_ocke> in fact, as far as the system is concerned, it s outputting fine,. i can evebn redirect output to inpoutr and recordit
[04:10] <Pelo> g'night folks
[04:10] <|_ocke> but thers no actual output
[04:10] <BENN92647> pelo: GN
[04:10] <SubOne> Anyone know the answer to this? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070521190944AAzSbuV&pa=FYd1D2bwHTHwI7NhHeM8SYTmOdyhBKT5wPPWWav3gA2VDA--&paid=asked&msgr_status=
[04:10] <|_ocke> ive tried all the forum entries i could find regardign alsa in genmeral
[04:10] <Fezzler> Added 2nd hard drive and mounted as /srv to place /user server files in /srv/dadfs  /srv/momfs, etc. Someone told me it is better to disolve the old /home and rename /srv  /home?
[04:10] <|_ocke> first i tried the ones regarding output
[04:10] <BENN92647> Gnea: it absolutely refuses to open any audio CD I put in it
[04:11] <trpr_> EpP: err, for example. ifdown eth0 ... then ifup eth0 ... that is of course requiring that eth0 be defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:11] <|_ocke> bvut all i found didnt do anytbhing agt all
[04:11] <Gnea> BENN92647: forget audio cds for now
[04:11] <wastedfluid> k
[04:11] <wastedfluid> brb
[04:11] <wastedfluid> hopefully this slow ass ipv6 is gone
[04:11] <|_ocke> in fact they had me reconfigure it to the same con figuration already in place
[04:11] <Gnea> BENN92647: audio cds don't use PCM anyway
[04:11] <rococo> spx2: I haven't used in it a long time. You could probably get more help with that on #fluxbox, though
[04:11] <|_ocke> id like to have it 'redetect' myy card and address if possible
[04:12] <|_ocke> but everything iove found on the web so far just ahas me reconfigure it to the already existing conmfiguration
[04:12] <chrisjs169> chrisjs
[04:12] <chrisjs169> whoops - meant to search for my name - search box didn't appear
[04:13] <Fezzler> stefg?
[04:14] <|_ocke> Fezzler, if hat was from me, i only have one working hand, its hard for me to correc all erroprs
[04:14] <rococo> chrisjs169: in my mind I was imagining you saying "chrisjs" very slowly and pointing to yourself in an effort to communicate with a foreign culture, and you had to ruin it by correcing yourself!
[04:14] <BENN92647> Gnea: uggh its not even giving methe option to use xmms stupid rythm box is only option
[04:14] <Pokit> anyone happen to know where userchrome.css is located for firefox
[04:15] <EpP> thanks alot trpr_
[04:15] <spx2> rococo,  i cant get any help from there
[04:15] <spx2> rococo, i need guidance
[04:15] <BENN92647> Gnea: where do i find the xmms.exe at?
[04:15] <Fezzler> lock: no, not you
[04:15] <chrisjs169> rococo: yeah, very slowly :P
[04:16] <Fivetwentysix> BENN92647 you want to install Xmms?
[04:16] <rococo> spx2: I'll try.... what exactly are you having trouble with?
[04:16] <Gnea> BENN92647: should be in /usr/bin
[04:16] <shawn34> how do I tell what pixel shader version my card supports?
[04:16] <BENN92647> fivetwentysix/Gnea:installed it but shotcast cant see it
[04:17] <Gnea> BENN92647: /usr/bin/xmms
[04:17] <darwin81> What is generally considered the best dock app right now (stable, but still cool effects and functionality)?
[04:17] <jason0_> Anyone here use e17 and know how to turn on logging?
[04:17] <spx2> rockstar_, am i supposed to open .fluxbox/fbdesk.init and start writing entries to get icons on my desktop , or is there a simpler way
[04:17] <spx2> ?
[04:17] <AngryElf> when I drag theme archives I downloaded from gnome-look.org to my Theme preferences it says file format invalid
[04:18] <spx2> rococo, am i supposed to open .fluxbox/fbdesk.init and start writing entries to get icons on my desktop , or is there a simpler way
[04:18] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok now here is a new error LOL Couldn't open Audio
[04:18] <spx2> rococo, or is there a better way ?
[04:18] <scoobydoo28139> Who is on teck duty tonight? My sound card still doesn't work. Nore does my tv card
[04:19] <Gnea> BENN92647: remember, you need to change the audio device options:)
[04:19] <oldude67_> is there and apt-get command to get new kernels?
[04:19] <BENN92647> Gnea: i love you..ok so where do i need to do that at
[04:19] <Fezzler>  I installed new 200 gig and mounted it as /srv ; now I wish I mounted it as /home.  Can a charge it w/ too much harm?
[04:19] <rococo> spx2: I remember editing it for each icon. It doesn't really take that much work, unless you want to create a million icons
[04:19] <Fezzler> setting up samba to have 200 gig serve as file server for home network
[04:19] <spx2> rococo, so suppose i need usb stick ?
[04:20] <Gnea> BENN92647: lol - right click->options->preferences->configure ALSA as the output plugin
[04:20] <spx2> rococo, hmmm on fluxbox do i have like a navigator ?
[04:20] <ninina> is there any way to switch from KDE to gnome without logging out?
[04:20] <spx2> rococo, or smth llike that ?
[04:20] <BENN92647> Gnea: right click what
[04:20] <Gnea> BENN92647: on xmms - doesn't matter where, as long as the cursor is over it
[04:20] <scoobydoo28139> seveas you familiar with sound cards?
[04:20] <rococo> spx2: usb sticks and such won't automatically make an icon on the desktop in fbdesk
[04:21] <BENN92647> Gnea: doesnt tell me where to select playback device
[04:21] <rococo> spx2: you can also just start nautilus when running fluxbox - this will make icons appear on your desk top the exact same way gnome does it and give you a navigator, if you don't want to use fbdesk
[04:21] <scoobydoo28139> ubotu: sound
[04:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:21] <wastedfluid> wow.  the internet is so much better without ipv6
[04:21] <Gnea> BENN92647: what DOES it tell you?
[04:21] <Jack333> booo, register crap
[04:21] <Frogzoo> anyone know of a better password saver than revelation? one that integrates with seahorse would be nice
[04:22] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Jack333
[04:22] <ubotu> Jack333: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:22] <PriceChild> Jack333, we can't avoid it sorry
[04:22] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. I need some help with something. How can I verify that the image is able to be mounted with the mount command?
[04:22] <spx2> rococo, wich would be better ?
[04:22] <Gnea> Jack333: sorry, too many trolls. prove you're not one of them and we're cool.
[04:22] <|_ocke> IMO ipv6 is worthlesss till we have like 50x the hosts online as now
[04:22] <bruenig> Shaddox, try to mount it
[04:22] <Jack333> pricechild you are joking about the "c" word right?
[04:22] <wastedfluid> rococo: IPv6 is off.  MUCH faster.
[04:23] <BENN92647> Gnea: it has alsa already selected
[04:23] <PriceChild> Jack333, more the principle
[04:23] <spx2> rococo, im thinking of making some perl scripts to enhance fbdesk  to get a visual thing to set icon positions names etc
[04:23] <Gnea> BENN92647: ok, now click 'configure'
[04:23] <Jack333> PriceChild: eh i guess
[04:23] <PriceChild> Gnea, please don't accuse others of trolling
[04:23] <spx2> rococo, also it needs like usb detection
[04:23] <Gnea> Jack333: read the channel guidelines, in the /topic
[04:23] <darwin81> What is generally considered the best dock app right now (stable, but still cool effects and functionality)?
[04:23] <spx2> rococo, like nautilus has...
[04:23] <rococo> wastedfluid: had a feeling that might do it. IPv6 is still super-new
[04:23] <Shaddox> bruenig: What's the command to mount x.cue as an image at /mount/x?
[04:23] <Jack333> Gnea: I am perfectly fine, thanks
[04:23] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok
[04:23] <wastedfluid> rococo: thanks a ton dude.  you have been so much help today.
[04:24] <bruenig> Shaddox, cue? I thought cue was just a text file accompanying a bin
[04:24] <Gnea> PriceChild: sorry, i take that quite seriously.
[04:24] <rococo> spx2: all that is theoretically possible, but if I were you I'd take the lazy way and use nautilus, unless your system doesn't have a lot of memory
[04:24] <rococo> wastedfluid: hey, no problem
[04:24] <Fivetwentysix> So I justed installed KDE, how do I switch from Gnome to KDE without restarting my Kernal
[04:24] <Shaddox> It's a .bin and a .cue.
[04:24] <bruenig> !mountiso | Shaddox convert the bin to iso
[04:24] <ubotu> Shaddox convert the bin to iso: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:24] <Gnea> BENN92647: now change the audio device from hw:0,0 to hw:1,0
[04:24] <rococo> wastedfluid: it isn't completely out of the goodness of my heart - the more I help other people with random problems, the more I end up knowing
[04:24] <Frogzoo> Fivetwentysix: log out & hit ctrl alt backspace twice
[04:24] <spx2> rococo, i have little memory
[04:24] <Shaddox> Downloading Starcraft ISO's to mount [i do legally own the game] 
[04:25] <Shaddox> In celebration that Blizzard finally announced Starcraft 2 ^^\
[04:25] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok did it
[04:25] <spx2> rococo, do you think fbdesk comunity will appreciate my efforts ill get fame money women and a ferrari like carmack if i write that kind of scirpts ?
[04:25] <Fivetwentysix> Yes, I'm excited too
[04:25] <wastedfluid> rococo: for whatever reason you do it, thanks.
[04:25] <Fivetwentysix> But not excited enough to play starcraft lol
[04:25] <Gnea> BENN92647: click ok , then click ok again ... then close xmms, and open xmms again
[04:25] <rococo> spx2: you may get the presidential medal of freedom
[04:25] <Shaddox> im going to win with that new Protoss Mothership ^^
[04:25] <spx2> rococo, lol
[04:25] <Fivetwentysix> Frogzoo, but I'm on Gnome right now and on Gnome by default...
[04:25] <Fivetwentysix> Will that still switch me to using KDE?
[04:26] <Frogzoo> Fivetwentysix: try it & see
[04:26] <BENN92647> Gnea: audio devicehw: 1,0 Mixer card:  C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC8 mixer device: master
[04:26] <Fivetwentysix> OK brb.
[04:26] <Shaddox> Bruenig: Will that mount it every time I start the PC?
[04:26] <Scunizi> Shaddox, do you run starcraft in wine?
[04:26] <Gnea> BENN92647: looks right
[04:26] <Shaddox> Scunizi: Cedega.
[04:26] <|_ocke> k im about to have a smoke, then try all the  options on that alsa !page
[04:26] <BENN92647> Gnea: WOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:26] <bruenig> Shaddox, no, it converts it to an iso, then you can mount the iso via the command, did you go to the link with the conversion tools
[04:26] <Shaddox> Scunizi: But I lost my CDkey last month. >.<
[04:26] <Gnea> :)
[04:26] <BENN92647> Gnea: you rule the world and everything in it!
[04:26] <Scunizi> Shaddox, would wine work too? or is Cedega just tuned for it.
[04:26] <Shaddox> I did, bruenig
[04:27] <spx2> rococo, would it be enough if i do like edit .fluxbox/startup and append a line "fbdesk &"
[04:27] <|_ocke> if none of thenm have any effect again, will somebody help me more specificall?
[04:27] <Gnea> hahaha
[04:27] <rollerskatejamms> Anybody know a good system information tool?
[04:27] <bruenig> Shaddox, so use the bin2iso and then use the command in the same factoid that tells you how to mount isos
[04:27] <rollerskatejamms> Similar to belarc or everest
[04:27] <spx2> rollerskatejamms, whatcha mean ?
[04:27] <BENN92647> wow!
[04:27] <bruenig> !info conky
[04:27] <rococo> spx2: that should make it start up naturally, yes
[04:27] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 123 kB, installed size 416 kB
[04:27] <Shaddox> Installing bin2iso and mdf2iso
[04:27] <awsoonn> hi hi
[04:27] <spx2> rollerskatejamms, gkrellm
[04:27] <rollerskatejamms> spx2, something that gives you all your sysinfo, like cpu, memory, hd, all that
[04:27] <|_ocke> im not erxatly a linux newbie, ive been working with iot since about slackware 3.0 onm 95 or 96
[04:27] <Scunizi> !gkrellm
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gkrellm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok soooo can i listen to my movies now?
[04:27] <bruenig> rollerskatejamms, use conky, it is very nice
[04:28] <awsoonn> I lost all my 'system-try' icons
[04:28] <|_ocke> but in the last 3-4 years ive used it exclusively, and this is the first time ive hd a sound issue
[04:28] <Gnea> BENN92647: if you have the OSS compatibility layer initialized, you should be able to use the /dev/dsp* as audio output options as well
[04:28] <awsoonn> can someon please giv em a hand gettign them back?
[04:28] <Gnea> BENN92647: many movie players require those
[04:28] <bruenig> awsoonn, right click on the panel, click add the panel, then selection notification applet
[04:28] <rollerskatejamms> I dont want a real time monitor
[04:28] <Fivetwentysix> Hmm so I pressed CTRL + ALt + BACKSPACE the second time
[04:28] <Fivetwentysix> and it gave me a blackscreen with a loading cursor...
[04:28] <spx2> rococo, have you had problems with xfce in the sense that sometimes gvim or other windows wouldnt refresh properly ?
[04:28] <Shaddox> It couldnt find bin2iso
[04:28] <rollerskatejamms> I just want a summary of system components. The system->preferences->hardware doesnt have ram
[04:28] <|_ocke> rollerskatejamms, why not? that sems dumb
[04:28] <Fivetwentysix> But when i pressed it again it took me back to gnome
[04:28] <spx2> rollerskatejamms, you found it ?
[04:29] <spx2> rollerskatejamms, gkrellm
[04:29] <bruenig> Shaddox, you have to put it in the PATH, do echo $PATH to see where those locations are
[04:29] <rollerskatejamms> yeah i see it but i dont need real time monitors
[04:29] <spx2> rollerskatejamms, what do you need then ?
[04:29] <Shaddox> No, i mean when i did apt-get
[04:29] <Fivetwentysix> Anyone know why KDE gives me a blackscreen?
[04:29] <rococo> spx2: I'm afraid I never really used XFCE
[04:29] <rollerskatejamms> spx2, ever heard of the program everest, or belarc?
[04:29] <Fivetwentysix> Do i needto full reboot after installing it?
[04:29] <spx2> Shaddox, modify /etc/apt/sources.list ,decomment some stuff,then apt-get update ,then try again
[04:30] <BENN92647> Gnea: how do I select the sound options for movie player?
[04:30] <spx2> rollerskatejamms, everest is a dictionary
[04:30] <rollerskatejamms> spx2, no, lavalys.com
[04:30] <Gnea> BENN92647: i don't know what movie player you're using
[04:30] <Shaddox> its cool
[04:30] <jturek> man i remember when #gentoo had this many users in it
[04:30] <spx2> rollerskatejamms, sorry i dont know what you're talking about
[04:30] <Shaddox> i'll just compile the source myself
[04:30] <jturek> pretty awesome that we can get 1125!
[04:30] <rococo> spx2: if you want something easy on the memory but with graphical configuration tools, you might want to try Enlightenment. It doesn't give you a desktop by default either, though
[04:30] <BENN92647> Gnea: the totem default LINUX movie player
[04:30] <rococo> spx2: icons, thati s
[04:31] <spx2> rollerskatejamms,  you can get all your info if you parse the output of dmesg
[04:31] <bruenig> BENN92647, there is no such thing as a default linux movie player
[04:31] <Frogzoo> jturek: I wonder what are the plans for the future, 10000 people in here would get pretty strange
[04:31] <rococo> bruenig: I am the default linux movie player
[04:31] <spx2> rococo, so thats exactly how i am with fluxbox right now ?
[04:31] <|_ocke> up till now everything ive needeed desperately has been text, subtitled, lor something similar
[04:31] <Shaddox> Got it, working. ^^
[04:31] <BENN92647> Gnea: Totem movie player 2.18.1
[04:31] <spx2> Shaddox, how ?
[04:31] <rollerskatejamms> spx2, i can find out if i have pc4200 ram vs 5300?
[04:31] <|_ocke> buit recently ive encountered a few that had ONLY audio feeds for the informationm
[04:32] <Shaddox> downloaded bin2iso.c from its website
[04:32] <Shaddox> compiled it myself
[04:32] <Shaddox> and sudo mv'd it to /usr/bin
[04:32] <|_ocke> plis id like to be able to use multimedia as intended'
[04:32] <rococo> spx2: well, um... kinda. but I like Enlightenment a lot better than fb
[04:32] <Vagitarius> fuck
[04:32] <Shaddox> !ohmy > Vagitarius
[04:32] <rococo> spx2: just a thought ;-)
[04:32] <Vagitarius> lol
[04:32] <Vagitarius> wrong channel
[04:32] <|_ocke> insteade of jjust visual output with no sound on trailers and npreviews at $4-5 eahch
[04:33] <spx2> rococo, ok thanks i think ill write some perl/tk scripts for this fbdesk thing to get stuff working write
[04:33] <spx2> rococo, s/write/right
[04:33] <inrs> Hi
[04:33] <Aresilek> is it possible to extend a partition leftwards?
[04:33] <spx2> inrs, hi :)
[04:33] <Fivetwentysix> Sorry did anyone know why my screen went black after installing KDE?
[04:33] <inrs> can someone help me with ubuntu and ndiswrapper?
[04:33] <spx2> Aresilek, check qparted
[04:33] <Aresilek> spx2 i'm in qparted
[04:34] <Aresilek> now what?
[04:34] <inrs> I install it and i can see wireless networks but i can't access the network even using the correct WEP code
[04:34] <Aresilek> or qtparted
[04:34] <spx2> Fivetwentysix, get exactly what video device you have get drivers and check out xorg.conf
[04:34] <spx2> Fivetwentysix, you'll have a long day today if you want to make it work
[04:34] <wastedfluid> Hm.  Odd question.  Is there any program like Notebook Hardware COntrol for ubuntu? I read about a way to being able to change voltages, but I'm not that brave.. :p
[04:34] <spx2> Fivetwentysix, i suggest you take a linux distro wich auto-detects all stuff
[04:34] <Fivetwentysix> I already installed my video drivers
[04:34] <Fivetwentysix> It works on gnome
[04:35] <spx2> Aresilek, well its visual qparted,what dont you understand ? :)
[04:35] <Gnea> BENN92647: edit the ~/.gnome2/totem_config file change the #audio.device.alsa_default_device:default to audio.device.alsa_default_device:hw:1,0
[04:35] <Fivetwentysix> But it doesn't load my video settings in KDE
[04:35] <Fivetwentysix> and spx2 you should be promoting Ubuntu not depromoting it :-P
[04:35] <UberDuper> Is the ubunbu 7.04 server installer known to have problems with lvm setup during install?
[04:35] <rollerskatejamms> !networking
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <rollerskatejamms> !networ
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <rollerskatejamms> !network
[04:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:35] <spx2> Fivetwentysix, to me all distros are the same
[04:36] <spx2> Fivetwentysix, and i have no interest in promoting
[04:36] <spx2> ok im gone bye
[04:36] <Aresilek> is there a way to paste my partition table here?
[04:36] <Fivetwentysix> OK well any link to get me started?
[04:36] <Frogzoo> Aresilek: no
[04:36] <Chat452> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
[04:36] <Frogzoo> !pastebin | Aresilek
[04:36] <ubotu> Aresilek: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:36] <Chat452> Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x00 (command sequence error) Fru 0x0
[04:36] <Chat452> is the error I get from cdrecord
[04:37] <spx2> Fivetwentysix, search for a proper distro for your computer , hints : Mandriva , Fedora , Suse have good hardware support
[04:37] <rococo> ewwww
[04:37] <Fivetwentysix> I like Ubunty
[04:37] <Fivetwentysix> ubuntu
[04:37] <akio> i need to apply a kernel patch, im not real familiar with the process, can anyone lend a hand?
[04:37] <shrimants> im having a problem with sound on ubuntu: i have an inspiron 9300. i can elaborate more to anyone that would care to help me out
[04:37] <dabaR> Fivetwentysix: what is your support question again? Sorry I just got here.
[04:37] <spx2> Fivetwentysix, in linux world you have 2 options , fuck your head against the table if drivers dont work with your distro or throw away your distro and search for a good one
[04:38] <Shaddox> akio: In Ubuntu, it should upgrade using the update manager.
[04:38] <spx2> Fivetwentysix, and believe me all distros are the same
[04:38] <Fivetwentysix> I just installed KDE
[04:38] <Fivetwentysix> I currently have Gnome installed and am using it now
[04:38] <Shaddox> Fivetwentysix: What're your system specs?
[04:38] <Aresilek> frogzoo is there a way and can copy it in the first place?
[04:38] <BENN92647> Gnea: did you see the movie player i am using?
[04:38] <akio> the current build of a kernel module supports my wireless card
[04:38] <Fivetwentysix> Amd64 GeForce7600GT
[04:38] <Fivetwentysix> Nforce motherboard
[04:38] <dabaR> !kernelcompile| akio
[04:38] <Gnea> BENN92647: yes, i use it too
[04:38] <ubotu> akio: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:38] <Fivetwentysix> Anyways when i switched to kde
[04:38] <Fivetwentysix> the screen went black
[04:39] <Fivetwentysix> I don't think they loaded my nvidia drivers
[04:39] <Shaddox> How, nice
[04:39] <BENN92647> Gnea: it is awesome! but no sound:(
[04:39] <Shaddox> A Geforce
[04:39] <Shaddox> I am just on a crappy laptop ^^
[04:39] <dabaR> akio: I have never compiled one, though, and I hear it can be tricky. Make sure you have a helper, and perhaps back things up.
[04:39] <Shaddox> I'm working on a 1800$ machine that's going to both work Linux AND windows, so i can play every game without too much trouble ^^
[04:39] <dabaR> !ask | shrimants
[04:39] <ubotu> shrimants: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:39] <akio> nice runaround i got
[04:40] <akio> is there a more appropriate channel?
[04:40] <shrimants> i did ask a question: does anyone want to help me "configure" my alsa driver
[04:40] <spx2> !seen rococo
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen rococo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <spx2> !seen rocococo
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen rocococo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <Fivetwentysix> dabaR you see my problem?
[04:40] <BENN92647> did Gnea leave?
[04:41] <rollerskatejamms> Hey, how can I manage services that run at startup manually, i.e. without using sysv-rc-conf or anything like that
[04:41] <rollerskatejamms> from the terminal
[04:41] <wastedfluid> rollerskatejamms:  system/preferences/session
[04:41] <wastedfluid> oh
[04:41] <wastedfluid> hm; Not sure about that.
[04:41] <dabaR> Fivetwentysix: is it black even in the console(alt-ctrl-f1)
[04:41] <akio> i dont need a wiki on what a kernel is, i want to patch mine
[04:41] <Gnea> BENN92647: ugh, i'm not sure... i've had issues getting totem to work on a second soundcard before and i know that's one of the options i had to edit....
[04:41] <Gnea> BENN92647: i gotta go sleep tho
[04:41] <shrimants> in any case, heres whats goin on(http://shrimants.blogspot.com): the subwoofer and the PC Speaker are controlled differently, the master volume doesnt control the master volume, just PC Speaker, and the media keys only control PC Speaker. i figure that theres a config file somewhere for the alsa mixer/media keys, i just dont know where or what to do to it
[04:42] <Gnea> BENN92647: maybe someone else knows how to configure totem
[04:42] <BENN92647> Gnea: ok thank you ever soooooo mcuh for all the hours you spent helping me today It is appreciated
[04:42] <Gnea> BENN92647: no problem, good luck
[04:42] <BENN92647> Gnea: sleep tight
[04:43] <BENN92647> ok anyone in here a movie lover?
[04:43] <rollerskatejamms> BENN92647, sure why not
[04:44] <BENN92647> Rollerskatejamms: how do you configure sound in Totem
[04:44] <Grein> Is there any way to boot the Ubuntu LiveCD so it copies entirely into RAM, freeing up my DVD-R drive for burning?
[04:44] <guerrillawon> Does anyone have any recommendations for a quality linux security site?
[04:44] <rollerskatejamms> BENN92647, Hah. I can't figure that out either.
[04:45] <akio> cls
[04:45] <dabaR> akio: the second link will tell you, I think.
[04:45] <akio> nope
[04:46] <akio> its a wiki loop
[04:46] <inrs> Hi, i can't find in the wirelessdoc website any info abour my wireless card MN-719
[04:46] <dabaR> akio: Oh, it used to be a separate page, afaik. Sorry about that.
[04:46] <inrs> Can i use the same procedure as the Broadcom card
[04:46] <akio> im reading howtoforge
[04:46] <Pelo> guerrillawon,  linux is pretty secure, I'm not sure you'll find a lot of site dedicated to making it safer
[04:46] <Pelo> guerrillawon, found this  on google  http://www.linuxsecurity.com/
[04:46] <philwhln> I've been using azureus and now everytime I open it, it closes after 2 seconds. I've tried uninstalling it and removing my .azureus folder, but no change
[04:47] <dabaR> philwhln: any error in terminal?
[04:47] <Pelo> Grein,  maybe you can find something you can install to a usb flash drive and use that to boot your comp and burn your cd
[04:47] <Fivetwentysix> dabar when i press ctrl alt f1
[04:47] <Fivetwentysix> took me to console
[04:48] <Fivetwentysix> I dont know how to load gnome from console tho
[04:48] <BENN92647> ok i need to mount all my cd roms again in fiesty anyone able to help me with that please
[04:48] <Jack31> you know what I would loveto see in the console, if I type apt-get , it automatically makes it sudo apt-get and asks for a password
[04:48] <Fivetwentysix> And i got the nvidia splash screen when i launch KDE
[04:48] <dabaR> Fivetwentysix: try sudo dpkg --reconfigure gdm. then sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[04:48] <Pelo> Fivetwentysix, gdm  or start gdm , or something along those lines I think
[04:48] <Flannel> Grein: do you have a thumbdrive or something similar?
[04:48] <Fivetwentysix> but when KDE launches the screen is black
[04:48] <Fivetwentysix> i do however get a loading cursor
[04:49] <verb3k_> How to add the network manager's icon " applet" to the panel? because I lost it and couldn't add it from the "add to panel"  function ....please rspond and thanks in advance .
[04:49] <verb3k_> respond*
[04:49] <h3xis> verb3k_ try (from the terminal) nm-a
[04:49] <BENN92647> anyone know the command prompt to remount all drives?
[04:49] <Chat452> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
[04:49] <Chat452> Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x00 (command sequence error) Fru 0x0
[04:49] <philwhln> dabaR, maybe I should start it from the terminal. good idea. was opening it from themenu
[04:49] <Chat452> is the error I get from cdrecord
[04:50] <BENN92647> anyone know the command prompt to remount all drives?
[04:50] <dabaR> philwhln: always a good start to debugging.
[04:50] <shrimants> heres whats goin on(http://shrimants.blogspot.com): the subwoofer and the PC Speaker are controlled differently, the master volume doesnt control the master volume, just PC Speaker, and the media keys only control PC Speaker. i figure that theres a config file somewhere for the alsa mixer/media keys, i just dont know where or what to do to it. suggestions?
[04:50] <Fivetwentysix> Sorry
[04:50] <noiesmo> BENN92647: mount -a
[04:50] <Fivetwentysix> pressed the wrong button
[04:50] <verb3k_> h3xis, it says command not found
[04:50] <Fivetwentysix> canyou repeat those commands please
[04:50] <usser> Jack31: u can do that too =)
[04:50] <h3xis> verb3k_ okay, one sec. i'll figure it out. i always forget
[04:50] <HellTrade> HIii
[04:50] <Jack31> usser, how?
[04:50] <Fivetwentysix> Dabar could you repeat the commands you told me please.
[04:50] <HellTrade> Could anyone help me?
[04:50] <BENN92647> noiesmo: says only root can do that?
[04:50] <Jack31> usser, or do you mean just type sudo myself?
[04:50] <HellTrade> two quostions
[04:50] <dabaR> Fivetwentysix: try sudo dpkg --reconfigure gdm. then sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[04:51] <noiesmo> BENN92647: sudo mount -a then
[04:51] <Fivetwentysix> Thank you
[04:51] <HellTrade> anyone?
[04:51] <Flannel> !anyone | HellTrade
[04:51] <h3xis> verb3k_ nm-applet
[04:51] <ubotu> HellTrade: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:51] <usser> Jack31: theres a thing called alias
[04:51] <craigbass1976> I want to do video capture.  When I fire up the camera, I get "usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5" in /var/log/messages but am not sure what to do in kino to see what the camera is seeing.
[04:51] <Fivetwentysix> Wait that reconfigures gdm? My gnome is fine but KDE has a problem
[04:51] <Fivetwentysix> dabar: Wait that reconfigures gdm? My gnome is fine but KDE has a problem
[04:51] <usser> Jack31: find a .bashrc file in your home and put the following there
[04:52] <dabaR> Fivetwentysix: one moment, please.
[04:52] <HellTrade> That are 3 but two important ones
[04:52] <BENN92647> noiesmo: it asked for password then did nothing?
[04:52] <Fivetwentysix> Thanks
[04:52] <Jack31> yeh i know about alias, oh make it do alias apt-get=sudo apt-get?
[04:52] <usser> Jack31: alias apt-get='sudo apt-get'
[04:52] <HellTrade> 1. how can I encrypt the hd?
[04:52] <Jack31> yeh, exactly :D
[04:52] <noiesmo> Fivetwentysix: all infor for your user for kde is stored in ~/.kde/ if you remove these files and then start kde again settings will be reset to default
[04:52] <philwhln> dabaR, azureus seems to be core dumping. Problematic frame: C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x9172] 
[04:52] <HellTrade> 2. can I change parition size if there is the rest windows and swap?
[04:52] <satandole666> Can someone help me with resolution problems...hardware is 8800gts 320mb and Dell P1100 21" trinitron CRT...tried the guides from the ubuntu forums and couldn't get anything to work
[04:52] <HellTrade> (have two more haha)
[04:52] <LKRaider> Jack31: I actually alias apt='sudo apt-get install'  :)
[04:53] <Yuno> can someone help me set pu my ATI x1300 graphics card
[04:53] <bruenig> alias agi='sudo apt-get install'
[04:53] <Cryoniq> kubuntu is kinda interesting.. managed to remove the nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-kernel module and not apt-get just being an idiot and refuse to let me install them again because it thinks (broken) install. So I go to nvidia for the fracken proprietary driver and get hold of install, and when building it fails to build kernel module and no availanle for system to download.. this starting to drive me mad.. lol
[04:53] <Jack31> LKraider, how can you do apt-get update etc?
[04:53] <h3xis> Yuno i have that same card. what do you need?
[04:53] <Jack31> lkraider, oh, its just for apt command
[04:53] <Yuno> well..
[04:53] <Jack31> ncie
[04:53] <verb3k_> h3xis, thank you very much ...but  it doesn't appear and I don't get the command prompt back ...
[04:53] <usser> Jack31: or just write a script
[04:53] <BENN92647> Noeismo: I did sudo mount -a and it asked for password then nothing happened after that
[04:53] <LKRaider> Jack31: yes. I also alias update='sudo apt-get update'  :P
[04:53] <h3xis> verb3k_ it just doesnt appear at all? do you have the system tray enabled?
[04:53] <HellTrade> Why do you nat answer questions privately?
[04:53] <arsalan> anyone recommend a good cd/dvd burning software for ubuntu? something simple and uncluttered
[04:54] <Jack31> nice
[04:54] <Fivetwentysix> noiesmo: my problem is when i load kde the screen is black
[04:54] <verb3k_> h3xis, yeah
[04:54] <h3xis> arsalan gnomebaker or k3b is fine
[04:54] <santhony12441> Just installed ubuntu as a dual-boot on a home built PC; hibernate works, suspend doesn't. I could use some help either figuring out why suspend fails, or how to make hibernate automatic.
[04:54] <usser> arsalan: k3b is pretty cool its for kde though
[04:54] <noiesmo> BENN92647: then all the drives listed in fstab are mounted you can do df -h to list mounted drives
[04:54] <Flannel> !burn | arsalan
[04:54] <ubotu> arsalan: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:54] <arsalan> h3xis: thanks
[04:54] <Fivetwentysix> noiesmo: nothing appears but a loading cursor
[04:54] <h3xis> verb3k_ try reinstalling it then?
[04:54] <Cryoniq> ...at least it isn't like windows, doing stuff and doesnt tell what problems actually are :P (being positive here)
[04:54] <Yuno> when i enable ATI drivers and reboot it gives me a error saying x-server failed to start
[04:54] <h3xis> Yuno how did you install them
[04:55] <foxiness> is there an editor support aspx (just highlight if i can add this to gedit or monodevelop will be better)
[04:55] <Jack31> arsalan, go grab the nero linux beta 3
[04:55] <verb3k_> h3xis,  could you please tell me how to reinstall it?
[04:55] <Jack31> its free :D, for now
[04:55] <HellTrade> this is too fast for me
[04:55] <noiesmo> Fivetwentysix: did you remove any kde packages etc what did you do before kde stoped working
[04:55] <BENN92647> noiesmo: LOL doesnt show any of my CD/DVD roms as mounted
[04:55] <usser> Jack31: nah nero sucks
[04:55] <chuckrevar> hi all
[04:55] <h3xis> verb3k_ let me look up the name of the package, i forgot :/
[04:55] <steev> HellTrade: yeah, it gets crazy sometimes
[04:55] <Jack31> nero rocks bah
[04:55] <HellTrade> and who ever asked me before why everyone asked if I can get help because I did not
[04:55] <verb3k_> h3xis,  your memory is just as mine :)
[04:55] <chuckrevar> can anybody help me access my "connect to server" windows mount via songbird
[04:56] <Aresilek> This is my partition table: http://rafb.net/p/ShA2TW41.html I wish to recover the 2 gigs of lost space between sda3 and sda4, can anyone help, i'm using kubuntu 7 live cd
[04:56] <Fivetwentysix> noiesmo: I just installed KDE
[04:56] <HellTrade> and also because it is polite
[04:56] <noiesmo> BENN92647: can you not just remove cdrom and re insert so ubuntu remounts it
[04:56] <Yuno> i used uhh...
[04:56] <HellTrade> I write in a forum that is better
[04:56] <dabaR> Fivetwentysix: look for the kubuntu-desktop package.
[04:56] <Jack31> usser: maybe i love it cause i used to use it on windows all the time, but it never gave me trouble and has lots of features
[04:56] <arsalan> nero was pain enough in windows. you set it to write a batch of dvds, and the computer is useless until it's done
[04:56] <shrimants> when i start ubuntu, it automounts my windows XP partition. i cant unmount it because "permission is denied" how do i prevent it from mounting? should i make it a hidden partition?
[04:56] <BENN92647> noiesom you me physically take it out and put it back?
[04:56] <noiesmo> Fivetwentysix: k maybe install kubuntu-desktop as dabaR mentioned
[04:56] <Jack31> arsalan: you musta had a cruddy computer :p
[04:56] <Fivetwentysix> It is iinstalled.
[04:57] <usser> Jack31: yea i know its the app for windows, however k3b is in many respects the same if not better
[04:57] <h3xis> verb3k_ try sudo apt-get --reinstall install network-manager-gnome
[04:57] <noiesmo> BENN92647: no just the cd it self not the drive or is the drive not being seen
[04:57] <Aresilek> i want to know the answer to shrimants question as well
[04:57] <BENN92647> noiesmo: you mean take it out and phyiscally put it back in
[04:57] <Yuno> h3xis: how did you install it since i just did a clean wipe
[04:57] <h3xis> Yuno i downloaded the .run file from amd's site and ran it
[04:57] <arsalan> Jack31: athlon 2600+ with a gig of ram. it was windows after all :P
[04:57] <Jack31> usser: ah, i havent actually use k3b, havent had a need to burn cds :p
[04:57] <verb3k_> h3xis,  thanks h3xis  for taking the time and trouble to help me ...thank you very much
[04:57] <Jack31> arsalan: haha, yeh windows probably used 3/4 for itself :P
[04:58] <arsalan> Jack31: i still wake up in the middle of the night to make sure it really is uninstalled
[04:58] <Yuno> i was using the fglx driver or something
[04:58] <raxor> crdlb, still around?
[04:58] <arsalan> Jack31: what a nightmare...
[04:58] <UzzaDead> evening all, I'm trying to set beryl-manager to run as a startup program and it tells me to go to System > Preferences > Sessions and I can't seem to locate it any help on that?
[04:58] <crdlb> raxor: yep
[04:58] <chuckrevar> does "connect to server" create a mount anywhere?
[04:58] <Jack31> arsalan: what uninstalled, windowS?
[04:58] <flyingsquirrel33> When I sync my palm device, the sync is successfull, but the log shows, it hasn't synced contacts or half of the other things in the list.
[04:58] <raxor> crdlb, I reinstalled and eveything worked out of the box...
[04:59] <steev> UzzaDead: first off, you're using Ubuntu and not Kubuntu, right?
[04:59] <arsalan> Jack31: yup. after WINE, it seemed silly to keep it lying around
[04:59] <Justi1> Anyone familiar with the Codeweavers Crossover program?
[04:59] <Aresilek> This is my partition table: http://rafb.net/p/ShA2TW41.html I wish to recover the 2 gigs of lost space between sda3 and sda4, can anyone help, i'm using kubuntu 7 live cd
[04:59] <raxor> crdlb, the only thing I did differently was I didn't enable the restricted mode drivers during nstall the second time... I think that causes things to not work...
[04:59] <taometaway> I have a really annoying problem... I restart and randomly (it seems) it starts a different session from like 2 weeks ago... how can I see the sessions and delete extras?
[05:00] <Yuno> h3xis: what manufacturer? i have a visiontek
[05:00] <dabaR> Fivetwentysix: so logging into gnome works fine?
[05:00] <h3xis> Yuno of laptop?
[05:00] <Jack31> arsalan: I still keep windows cause i know that sometime i wil have programs only for windows that I like, especially like Joost and tvuplayer, neither work well in wine
[05:00] <Fivetwentysix> dabaR: yes
[05:00] <steev> taometaway: should be System-> Preferences ->sessions
[05:00] <albertmk> Can anyone help me?
[05:00] <Yuno> no the x1300
[05:00] <chuckrevar> anybody know how to have songbird access my ubuntu mounted windows server volume?
[05:00] <h3xis> albertmk with what
[05:00] <Fivetwentysix> dabaR: I'm going to try loading kde up again brb.
[05:00] <albertmk> I type "sudo apt-get install gdal"
[05:00] <steev> albertmk: with waht?
[05:00] <taometaway> steev, ok, so I go there, then what?
[05:00] <h3xis> Yuno ati radeon mobility
[05:00] <albertmk> and it says that cannot find this package.
[05:00] <Yuno> oh i have the desktop verison
[05:00] <h3xis> albertmk what package do you need
[05:00] <Justi1> Anyone familiar with the Codeweavers Crossover program? or Anyone familiar with installing WoW onto Ubuntu, that is my ultimate goal here. And yes i've tried the walkthrough on the ubuntu/world of warcraft help section.
[05:00] <Aresilek> How do I stop ubuntu from mounting my partitions?
[05:00] <raxor> chuckrevar, by access do you mean search for media?
[05:01] <dabaR> Fivetwentysix: how about installing xnest, then running gdmflexiserver --xnest, and trying to log into KDE?
[05:01] <verb3k_> h3xis, it seems that network manager is working perfectly but I can't see the icon even after reinstalling the package
[05:01] <taometaway> steev cause all I have is start programs, current session and session options
[05:01] <arsalan> Jack31: i miss photoshop CS2. GIMP is good, but no lens correction or HDR. but windows isn't worth it.
[05:01] <UzzaDead> steev, kubuntu, dont beat me :D
[05:01] <chuckrevar> raxor - well I don't know where to start the search
[05:01] <chuckrevar> its doesnt see my mounts
[05:01] <usser> Aresilek: edit /etc/fstab but u gotta know what are u doing
[05:01] <steev> taometaway: that should show the session that it starts up with...make sure that that one has the things that you want....you're saying that your problem is that sometimes it starts with your usual session, but ocassionally with a different one?
[05:01] <chuckrevar> it doesnt see my mounts
[05:01] <santhony12441> Repost: I could use some help on problems with suspend/hibernate. Is there a better channel for that?
[05:01] <h3xis> verb3k_ in terminal type ps aux | grep nm-applet and see if you get anything back
[05:01] <dabaR> UzzaDead: what specifically.
[05:01] <raxor> chuckrevar, can you see the mounts browsing around in the ubuntu desktop?
[05:01] <verb3k_> h3xis,  ok
[05:01] <Aresilek> usser: i'm using a live cd
[05:01] <chuckrevar> rexor yes
[05:02] <steev> uzzadead: not a big deal. i acutally like kde better.
[05:02] <usser> Aresilek: what mounts then?
[05:02] <UzzaDead> Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty
[05:02] <will> anyone here installed ubuntu on a ps3?
[05:02] <taometaway> steev yeah, and I lost tons of data and stuff, I just want something stable so I can rebuild
[05:02] <taometaway> *sighs*
[05:02] <Jack31> arsalan: yeh i have photoshopCS2 / aftereffects/ premier pro, its worth it to keep windows if you use those for video editing alot IMO
[05:02] <will> mine says "permission denied" at the kboot prompt
[05:02] <steev> uzzadead: however, that's not why it's working for you, those are instructions for gnome
[05:02] <Fivetwentysix> Still no luck
[05:02] <Fivetwentysix> Could it be because I installed my nvidia drivers before installing KDE?
[05:02] <raxor> chuckrevar, hmm, then I am not sure, I only ever had it not see my ipod
[05:02] <shrimants> bbl, im booted in windows right now
[05:02] <Justi1> Anyone familiar with the Codeweavers Crossover program? or Anyone familiar with installing WoW onto Ubuntu, that is my ultimate goal here. And yes i've tried the walkthrough on the ubuntu/world of warcraft help section. Another channel maybe? any feedback is appreciated.
[05:02] <UzzaDead> yeah so i figured but i attemtped to find my way to where i needed to go but i cant
[05:02] <verb3k_> h3xis,  there is :   nm-applet --sm-disable
[05:03] <h3xis> verb3k_ i'm not sure what that argument is o.0
[05:03] <will> ps3 ubuntu, permission denied, anyone?
[05:03] <chuckrevar> raxor - you know if the "connect to server" mounting creates mounts on disk?
[05:03] <steev> taometaway: ahh...I guess then I don't really know what to tell you. I haven't heard of that happening...I guess all you can do is make sure  that you dont have a session saved or something...
[05:03] <chuckrevar> I've looked around
[05:03] <Aresilek> my extended linux partitions
[05:03] <verb3k_> h3xis,  strange case I am having :)
[05:03] <usser> chuckrevar: no
[05:03] <Aresilek> which i want to delete
[05:03] <taometaway> steev so should I check or uncheck "auto save"?
[05:03] <usser> chuckrevar: but u can use smbfs
[05:03] <h3xis> verb3k_ do killall nm-applet and then do "nm-applet &" in the terminal and see what happens
[05:03] <usser> chuckrevar: and mount command
[05:03] <chuckrevar> yeah I'll try that
[05:03] <steev> tametaway: i have mine unchecked
[05:03] <verb3k_> h3xis,  ok
[05:03] <guerrillawon> What's that popular music player for linux? I can't remember the name. The icon is a wolf?
[05:04] <UzzaDead> amarok
[05:04] <chuckrevar> but thats a pain
[05:04] <guerrillawon> ahh yes
[05:04] <mae> amarok is lame
[05:04] <steev> uzzadead: give me one second to recall from my memory how to do it on kde, i've been using ubuntu since fiesty came out
[05:04] <Yuno> h3xis: i get this when i open the .run file
[05:04] <Yuno> Could not open the file /home/ubuntu/Desktop/atiler-8.36.5-x86.x86_64.run using the Western (ISO-8859-15) character coding.
[05:04] <arsalan> rhythmbox > amarok
[05:04] <mae> its bloated
[05:04] <guerrillawon> mae your suggestion?
[05:04] <verb3k_> h3xis,  same result
[05:04] <mae> and banshee is oversimplified
[05:04] <raxor> chuckrevar, are you accessing them the same way? I thought you just needed to set watched folders to "/mnt/share" or "/media/xxx" or whatever...
[05:04] <mae> rhythmbox
[05:04] <masterk> can someone help me install my video drivers?
[05:04] <UzzaDead> alright steev  no big hurry :D
[05:04] <mae> or beep-media-player and konq :)
[05:04] <linuxnub> hihi
[05:04] <h3xis> Yuno do chmod +x ati* then try to run it
[05:04] <Yuno> masterk is it a x1300?
[05:04] <h3xis> verb3k_ have you restarted? :p i'm running out of ideas
[05:04] <UzzaDead> how about winamp mae?
[05:04] <masterk> I have S3 Savage IX8+ and it doesn't show up as that in the info thingy
[05:04] <linuxnub> can anyone help me to figure out why my cd player wont work in ubuntu
[05:04] <mae> haven't tried it
[05:05] <UzzaDead> lol, its a windows app :)
[05:05] <steev> uzzadead: okay, well, if you're not afraid of the command line, the file '~/.kde/Autostart' is a script that runs when you first login
[05:05] <Justi1> Anyone familiar with the Codeweavers Crossover program? or Anyone familiar with installing WoW onto Ubuntu, that is my ultimate goal here. And yes i've tried the walkthrough on the ubuntu/world of warcraft help section. Another channel maybe? any feedback is appreciated.
[05:05] <UzzaDead> i was expecting a beating
[05:05] <mae> rhythmbox is good because it has the radio and ipod features but its been around a long time and is fairly stable
[05:05] <Punkunity> hello
[05:05] <dabaR> UzzaDead: what exactly about amarok (btw, to learn how to ask questions on a support channel, google "smart questions raymond")
[05:05] <usser> UzzaDead: winamp works in wine btw
[05:05] <arsalan> Jack31: guess so. those are pretty expensive software apps.
[05:05] <Aresilek> usser: it mounts my linux partition which i want to delete
[05:05] <masterk> and just in case your wondering I'm using kubuntu but no one there is of any help right now
[05:05] <UzzaDead> steev, will editing that work for me?
[05:05] <h3xis> running winamp under linux is stupid. run audacious instead. it's basically a replica
[05:05] <usser> Aresilek: oh, cant u just unmount it?
[05:06] <steev> uzzadead: so you can add the line 'beryl-manager' to it, and it should run it
[05:06] <verb3k_> h3xis,  :)  ....I am having this for 2 days I think ....so restart won't fix anything :) ....I will try to figure something out then .....thanks for your precious time brother :)
[05:06] <steev> uzzadead: but let me see if i can find the gui way
[05:06] <taometaway> oh well, thanks steev, I'm going to do some industrial cleaning with kdirstat or something, it's pry not super wise but I'm about to uninstall.
[05:06] <h3xis> verb3k_ okay :p i'll check around on google for a few minutes
[05:06] <UzzaDead> im not afraid of the command line worst i can do is get scared and exit the file without saving
[05:06] <Jack31> whats with the application in medibunter, like amarok-xine?
[05:06] <Jack31> what does that mean, a plugin for xine?
[05:06] <masterk> I found a driver for it but I have no clue how to install it: http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html
[05:06] <UzzaDead> steev, the file is empty is that normal?
[05:07] <h3xis> verb3k_ i dont run gnome so idk about this but is "notification area" and system tray the same thing?
[05:07] <Yuno> h3xis: that seemed to work
[05:07] <h3xis> Yuno ;)
[05:07] <steev> taometaway: okay, good luck. sorry i cant help more
[05:07] <Aresilek> usser: http://rafb.net/p/5v59AK21.html these are my mounts i don't see it there
[05:07] <steev> uzzadead: yep
[05:07] <verb3k_> h3xis,  hmmm let me see
[05:07] <linuxnub> hello my cdrom wont work help plz
[05:07] <UzzaDead> alright let me give that a whirl
[05:07] <taometaway> steev, thanks, it's cool... it's weird.
[05:07] <usser> masterk: thats for xfree
[05:07] <h3xis> linuxnub be more specific?
[05:07] <UzzaDead> be back in a min
[05:07] <usser> masterk: ubuntu uses xorg
[05:07] <masterk> oh... I'm just a noob...
[05:07] <linuxnub> my cd rom fails to mount or read anything
[05:08] <masterk> lol
[05:08] <mooma> Does anyone know what to do for an upgrade that is totally messed. I came home last week and upgraded to 7.04 (I realize that was my first mistake) and now I cannot login to my regular account. I added another account, and I can get that to work, but I cannot get a terminal open. Every time I try to start one up the session crashes, and I have to log in again.
[05:08] <linuxnub> in ubuntu only
[05:08] <h3xis> linuxnub what are you trying to mount and how are you doing it?
[05:08] <|_ocke> ah
[05:08] <|_ocke> in a weird spot
[05:08] <linuxnub> works great in pclos, mandriva, debian and sabayon
[05:08] <foxiness> is there a way on ubuntu to get the 0.13 monodevelop ?
[05:08] <Yuno> h3xis: all it seemed to do was extract a bunch of stuf
[05:08] <masterk> well the driver with kubuntu 6.06 and after all the updates to newest updates is still not showing up as the device I have
[05:08] <verb3k_> h3xis,  That's it :) ....what a stupid guy I am ..it is actually in the notification area
[05:08] <Yuno> it that what it was suppose to do?
[05:08] <h3xis> verb3k_ haha okay
[05:09] <|_ocke> brb
[05:09] <verb3k_> h3xis,  thanks bro
[05:09] <h3xis> Yuno i believe so. did it say it installed it?
[05:09] <usser> Aresilek: ok, its not there what happens when u try to delete your partition
[05:09] <jturek> anybody here from the Broomfield Colorado area?
[05:09] <gluttony> is it possible to make a file that runs a predefined set of commands?
[05:09] <Aresilek> usser: it says its mounted
[05:09] <h3xis> gluttony shell script?
[05:10] <UzzaDead> doesnt look like it worked steev
[05:10] <steev> gluttony: a shell script?
[05:10] <usser> Aresilek: well hm i dunno
[05:10] <Yuno> terminal jus gave a bumch of dots and then had ATI Tech.
[05:10] <gluttony> h3xis: is shell the same as terminal?
[05:10] <steev> uzzadead: hmm. still trying to google up the graphical way...
[05:10] <Yuno> bunch*
[05:10] <craigbass1976> Anyone ever done video capture from a camcorder with usb?
[05:10] <h3xis> gluttony terminal is a shell, but you need a shell script
[05:10] <Yuno> then the terminal window closed
[05:10] <h3xis> gluttony know what batch files are in windows?
[05:10] <UzzaDead> can you paste the directory that file should be in again?
[05:10] <masterk> it shows up as "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)" in lspci but I should have a "S3 Savage IX8+"
[05:10] <h3xis> Yuno are you getting a dialog box of some sort?
[05:10] <patricio> efefef
[05:10] <eytrtu> I'm testing out pidgin's "invisible" mode. can someone put me on their buddylist and see if im visible or not? my AIM is amfibeus
[05:10] <patricio> fefef
[05:10] <patricio> efe
[05:10] <patricio> fef
[05:10] <patricio> efe
[05:11] <patricio> fef
[05:11] <patricio> ef
[05:11] <Aresilek> usser: i just found out its mounting my swap partition how do i stop it from doing that?
[05:11] <Yuno> i'll screensho it
[05:11] <gluttony> h3xis: heard of them. never knew how to make one
[05:11] <UzzaDead> i think i screwed up :D
[05:11] <bruenig> gluttony, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21929/
[05:11] <radu> Hello
[05:11] <h3xis> eytrtu yes you are invisible
[05:11] <orlo> hi - can a user become root with ubuntu?
[05:11] <radu> is this the correct place to ask a question or is ther another channel?
[05:11] <h3xis> orlo yes
[05:11] <UzzaDead> yes orlo
[05:11] <eytrtu> h3xis - you cant see me online?
[05:12] <h3xis> eytrtu nope
[05:12] <radu> orlo sudo -i
[05:12] <usser> masterk: ubuntu has all the s3 drivers
[05:12] <eytrtu> thanks
[05:12] <patricio> ere
[05:12] <patricio> ewe23e322e
[05:12] <patricio> wewd
[05:12] <patricio> wdwd
[05:12] <patricio> w
[05:12] <patricio> ewrw
[05:12] <patricio> 32e
[05:12] <patricio> 2
[05:12] <patricio> e2
[05:12] <bruenig> !ops
[05:12] <__mikem> !ops
[05:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[05:12] <patricio> e
[05:12] <usser> masterk: u dont need to donwload something else
[05:12] <Aresilek> usser: never mind sudo swapoff -a did the trick
[05:12] <patricio> d
[05:12] <masterk> then why isn't it showing up as the correct device?
[05:12] <pianoman> hello all
[05:12] <nixternal> thanks nalioth
[05:12] <UzzaDead> steev, it says Autostart is a directory
[05:12] <__mikem> horray for nalioth
[05:12] <steev> uzzadead: try doing this instead: run ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager
[05:12] <usser> masterk: what does it say it is?
[05:12] <steev> uzzadead: yeah, it is
[05:12] <masterk> it shows up as "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)" in lspci but I should have a "S3 Savage IX8+"
[05:13] <UzzaDead> :D there goes my n00bness rearing its head
[05:13] <steev> uzzadead: that command will put a symlink to beryl-manager into your autostart folder
[05:13] <bruenig> steev, iirc ln is not fond of ~
[05:13] <gluttony> h3xis: whats bin/bash? is it something i need to change?
[05:13] <h3xis> gluttony where do you see that?
[05:13] <bruenig> gluttony, no, that is the name of the shell, the bash shell
[05:13] <pianoman> is there a way to upgrade to Fiesty through terminal?
[05:13] <eytrtu> h3xis - sorry to bug you, but how about now?
[05:13] <radu> does anyone know why when I click to start terminal a taskbar thing tab pops up that says "starting terminal" stays for a couple of seconds then disapears and terminal doesnt open up for me
[05:13] <bruenig> gluttony, when you open a terminal, you are actually in a bash shell, so just put the commands there as you would put them in the terminal
[05:13] <steev> bruenig: oh? I've never had problems...maybe my tab completion tends to expand it to the full /home/steev
[05:13] <jeremyb> make that patricio
[05:13] <Yuno> h3xis: http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1065/screenshotyk1.png
[05:13] <h3xis> eytrtu still offline
[05:13] <h3xis> Yuno k
[05:13] <arsalan> video card question: if i upgrade my card, will X boot properly or will i need to switch it to vesa mode beforehand?
[05:13] <eytrtu> ok
[05:14] <bruenig> steev, I know it gets upset sometimes about full paths, I forget if ~ is part of that
[05:14] <orlo> h3xix/UzzaDead - can root be gotten at login
[05:14] <jeremyb> numist: does patricio do that often?  that was really weird... not exactly flooding or spamming... not sure what to call it :s
[05:14] <steev> uzzadead: bruenig mentioned that ln might have a problem with the ~, so try /home/YourUserName instead
[05:14] <Yuno> also h3xis it show more but terminal closes before i get a screenshot
[05:14] <gluttony> bruenig: how do i save the commands?
[05:14] <UzzaDead> ok
[05:14] <bruenig> gluttony, you put that in a text file
[05:14] <steev> bruenig: awesome. i'll keep that in mind, thanks :)
[05:14] <will> n/m, bad cd
[05:14] <will> bye all
[05:14] <masterk> usser: it shows up as "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)" in lspci but I should have a "S3 Savage IX8+"
[05:14] <radu> does anyone know why when I click to start terminal a taskbar thing tab pops up that says "starting terminal" stays for a couple of seconds then disapears and terminal doesnt open up for me
[05:15] <gluttony> bruenig: do i give it a certain file extension?
[05:15] <numist> jeremyb: .?
[05:15] <h3xis> Yuno it's not running in the background? it should pop up a dialog box starting the installation
[05:15] <Yuno> nope :\
[05:15] <h3xis> Yuno terminal should NOT close
[05:15] <bruenig> gluttony, no, put that in a text file, save the text file and then do chmod +x nameofthefile
[05:15] <h3xis> Yuno you're doing ./ati* right?
[05:15] <Yuno> yes
[05:15] <pianoman> is there a way to upgrade to Fiesty through terminal?
[05:15] <hatter> what do i do in feisty fawn with gnome to remember and reload all running apps on reboot ?
[05:15] <h3xis> Yuno as root or normal user?
[05:15] <Flannel> !upgrade | pianoman
[05:16] <ubotu> pianoman: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:16] <DerekS> it is not possible to have flash on a 64bit install...right?
[05:16] <Yuno> root
[05:16] <gluttony> bruenig: well, is there a way that all i have to do is click on the file?
[05:16] <bruenig> hatter, session saving is not a gnome feature
[05:16] <h3xis> Yuno try doing it as normal user
[05:16] <bruenig> gluttony, yes, after you chmod +x it, you should be able to just click it
[05:16] <hatter> bruenig: ah. do you know if kde does it ?
[05:16] <bimberi> radu: hit ALT-F2, type 'xterm', hit Run.  does a terminal pop up?
[05:16] <jeremyb> numist: person you just kicked.  i lastlogged and since join there were a bunch of lines but nothing intelligible.  only thing close to that i've seen on IRC is foreign charsets where they don't get you can't see their letters.
[05:16] <bruenig> gluttony, chmod +x means 'make it executable'
[05:16] <h3xis> hatter AFAIK gnome can save sessions
[05:16] <numist> I havent kicked anyone today...
[05:16] <numist> have I?
[05:16] <DanaG> Argh, Gnome is stalling at login.
[05:17] <UzzaDead> steev, trying again brb
[05:17] <jeremyb> grrrrrr
[05:17] <gluttony> bruenig: o ok. just curious, because i've become obsesed with terminal commands
[05:17] <bruenig> gluttony, they are handy
[05:17] <numist> jeremyb: maybe nalioth?
[05:17] <jeremyb> numist: SORRY :-{  (you're not nalioth)
[05:17] <numist> ya
[05:17] <steev> gluttony: once you start, you never go back :)
[05:17] <DanaG> Oh, and I'm still seeing a ridiculously long time between gnome-panel crashing and gnome-panel reloading.
[05:17] <usser> masterk: it probably is the same series/makes/models so it detects it IX-MV
[05:17] <bruenig> I have terminal shortcutted and I probably use it everytime I sit down at my desktop
[05:17] <gluttony> bruenig: oh, thats chmod from python. no wonder !# looked familier
[05:18] <jeremyb> numist: from now on all opers must have unique first letters in nicks.  ok? ;)
[05:18] <h3xis> hatter in your preferences look for Sessions
[05:18] <gluttony> bruenig: yeah, im talking irssi right not
[05:18] <Pelo> bruenig, windows key ?
[05:18] <steev> uzzadead: well?
[05:18] <UzzaDead> worked perfectly steev thanks alot
[05:18] <bruenig> Pelo, windows key + v, I use the windows key as the modifier key for all my shortcuts
[05:18] <masterk> well the reason I was looking into the driver was because in the mplayer plugin for firefox the video plays slower than the sound and the sound plays at normal speed usser
[05:18] <hatter> h3xis, ok thx
[05:18] <steev> uzzadead: awesome. apparently kde has no graphical method to do that, i can't believe it
[05:18] <gluttony> anyone know an instant messanger that is run in the terminal?
[05:18] <steev> uzzadead: maybe kde4...
[05:18] <bruenig> gluttony, gaim-text
[05:18] <Yuno> h3xis: Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x720' directory
[05:18] <Yuno> You may override the detected version using the following syntax:
[05:18] <Yuno>      X_VERSION=<xdir> ./ati-driver-installer-<ver>-<arch>.run [--install] 
[05:18] <h3xis> hatter find it? there should be a checkbox that says something like "automatically save session" or something
[05:18] <bruenig> gluttony, or I think it is some other name now
[05:18] <masterk> !vista
[05:18] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[05:18] <UzzaDead> maybe, but isnt that alpha or beta?
[05:19] <h3xis> gluttony naim
[05:19] <Yuno> i got terminal to stay
[05:19] <bruenig> gluttony, yeah it is called finch
[05:19] <gluttony> bruenig: just apt-get that right?
[05:19] <steev> uzzadead: kde4? yeah, pre-alpha ish
[05:19] <numist> jeremyb: bah
[05:19] <bruenig> gluttony, it should be installed with pidgin
[05:19] <hatter> h3xis, yes, it has autmatically save session
[05:19] <h3xis> hatter that's it then ;)
[05:19] <gluttony> bruenig: ah, see i dont have it
[05:19] <UzzaDead> i think i'll stay away from that with my not so stellar linux track record
[05:19] <bruenig> gluttony, type "finch"
[05:19] <hatter> h3xis, sounds good, i will try reboot shortly :)
[05:19] <craigbass1976> Anyone ever done video capture from a camcorder with usb?
[05:19] <steev> speaking of pidgin, how long till it's in the repos?
[05:20] <bruenig> oh pidgin isn't in the repos
[05:20] <bruenig> gluttony, I didn't realize pidgin wasn't in the repos, my fault
[05:20] <gluttony> bruenig: command not found
[05:20] <h3xis> Yuno i'm kind of fuzzy about this, but do you have an ati card at all?
[05:20] <dorio_man> How do you get a dumb terminal going in fiesty?  I'm lost not having /etc/inittab to edit.
[05:20] <gluttony> bruenig: its np
[05:20] <Flannel> steev: Pidgin will be in gutsy
[05:20] <bruenig> !info gaim
[05:20] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1700 kB, installed size 4808 kB
[05:20] <UzzaDead> whats pidgin?
[05:20] <bruenig> gluttony, gaim-text should be installed
[05:21] <bruenig> UzzaDead, new name of gaim
[05:21] <Pelo> UzzaDead,  the new name for gaim
[05:21] <madman_> ok this new version of ubuntu is tripping me out
[05:21] <harry_> but I don't want to wait 'til gutsy for pidgin
[05:21] <h3xis> UzzaDead gaim 2.0. it had to be renamed due to copyright issues
[05:21] <UzzaDead> oh
[05:21] <gluttony> bruenig: now, how do i make it do i dont have to use sudo?
[05:21] <UzzaDead> with AOL i assume?
[05:21] <bruenig> gluttony, for what?
[05:21] <h3xis> harry_ compile it yourself
[05:21] <h3xis> UzzaDead yes :S
[05:21] <gluttony> terminal installs
[05:21] <Pelo> madman91,  is that a good thing I 'm not up on the lingo
[05:21] <Flannel> gluttony: you don't want to.
[05:21] <UzzaDead> heh i figured as much, the basts
[05:21] <steev> flannel: that long? oh well...i've compiled it myself, and i really like it, but i dont' install non-repo software for the couple of people who aren't computer people, so i was wondering if they'd get it sometime soon. oh well
[05:21] <bruenig> gluttony, yeah you really don't want that, bad security problem
[05:22] <madman_> ok, i reinstall this new version over debian
[05:22] <harry_> h3xis: compiling things is scary.....
[05:22] <Pelo> UzzaDead, it's just a new name , some copyright thing
[05:22] <Flannel> steev: Repositories are effectively frozen once release.  So it won't be in Feisty.  Gutsy is the next version, so it'll be in that.
[05:22] <madman_> installation process was amazing
[05:22] <h3xis> harry_ no it isnt
[05:22] <gluttony> bruenig: ah. can i start ubuntu in terminal mode?
[05:22] <UzzaDead> i think im going to be replacing windows with this kubuntu :D
[05:22] <madman_> then this import feature
[05:22] <h3xis> madman_ what a terrible decision XD
[05:22] <craigbass1976> !video
[05:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[05:22] <bruenig> gluttony, you mean like what you see when you do ctrl + alt + f1
[05:22] <madman_> now my import of these im's seem to be picked up by ubuntu
[05:22] <steev> flannel: gotcha. i never knew they froze them...interesting. Yet another reason to be excited for Gutsy...fiesty is really, really good, but there are still those one or two things...
[05:22] <madman_> now thats trippy as hell
[05:22] <gluttony> bruenig: yes.
[05:23] <harry_> h3xis: Then again, i used to be afraid of the command line, so I guess it's only a matter of time.
[05:23] <UzzaDead> when is gutsy due?
[05:23] <h3xis> harry_ it's just ./configure; make; sudo make install provided that it doesnt give you any errors
[05:23] <madman_> im a bsd guy and im absolutely flored with feisty fawn
[05:23] <Flannel> UzzaDead: Gutsy will be 7.10, so itll be released in October (10)
[05:23] <Pelo> UzzaDead,  october
[05:23] <UzzaDead> harry_, in russia the command line fears you
[05:23] <bruenig> gluttony, you could uninstall gdm, or do chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm to make sure it doesn't execute
[05:23] <UzzaDead> sweet
[05:23] <Fivetwentysix> Alright i'm giving up on installing kde
[05:23] <Fivetwentysix> :-)
[05:23] <Flannel> !bum | gluttony
[05:23] <ubotu> gluttony: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:23] <Fivetwentysix> Anyone know how to get the desktop effects working in Gnome?
[05:23] <Flannel> bruenig: theres a better way than that (rc stuff)
[05:24] <Yuno> h3xis: check PM
[05:24] <bruenig> better perhaps
[05:24] <UzzaDead> Fivetwentysix, you mean beryl/compiz?
[05:24] <gluttony> bruenig: ah. i think ill just stick to ctrl alt f1
[05:24] <harry_> what about 'in soviet russia, firefox keeps tabs on YOU!'
[05:24] <Fivetwentysix> mine says composite extension is not available
[05:24] <Pelo> Fivetwentysix,   a menu item in system > prefs
[05:24] <Frogzoo> a network (direct jet) printer that worked in edgy now won't print after upgrading to feisty - any pointers?
[05:24] <jacobnix> hello guys
[05:24] <harry_> got to go
[05:24] <madman_>  only problem with ubuntu is the fact its a pain in the ass
[05:24] <jacobnix> hello guyyssssssssssssssssss
[05:24] <UzzaDead> harry_, thats in china ;)
[05:24] <Pelo> Fivetwentysix, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[05:24] <gluttony> bruenig: know a good email client?
[05:24] <bruenig> gmail
[05:24] <steev> Fivetwentysix: that means that the driver you're using doesn't work with it
[05:24] <jacobnix> evolution
[05:24] <jacobnix> ?=
[05:24] <bruenig> non BSD init confuses me, too much going on
[05:24] <UzzaDead> thunderbird?
[05:25] <jacobnix> guys
[05:25] <steev> fivetwentysix: i dont' use ati, so i don't know what to tell you other than that
[05:25] <h3xis> Yuno i dont see it
[05:25] <gluttony> bruenig: just go to gmail in lynx?
[05:25] <jacobnix> i have sme question
[05:25] <Flannel> gluttony: you might try mutt
[05:25] <steev> jacobnix: yes?
[05:25] <jacobnix> guys , i have a question
[05:25] <Pelo> jacobnix, just ask
[05:25] <UzzaDead> we may have some answer
[05:25] <jacobnix> Pelo: ok
[05:25] <Pelo> damned, he picked me
[05:25] <UzzaDead> im glad my wireless worked right out of the box
[05:25] <madman_> sigh
[05:26] <Pelo> madman_,  you should bo back to window before you overdose on fiesty
[05:26] <madman_> ?
[05:26] <UzzaDead> you dont have to go to a methadone clinic or VD clinic for feisty overdoses right?
[05:27] <Pelo> UzzaDead,  a walk in the park usualy takes care of it
[05:27] <gluttony> bruenig: ok, last for now. how do i make the terminals in ctrl alt f1 - f6 log me in instead of me loging into all of them
[05:27] <Frogzoo> gluttony: evolution is good - the pgp support is excellent
[05:27] <UzzaDead> i dont have a park :(
[05:27] <PurpZeY> Is there a way to mute the sounds upon login? If so, would muting the system before a shutdown handle this or is there a specific preference?
[05:27] <jacobnix> i have a linux ubuntu feisty installed (GNOME 2.18) but i was installing some KDE applications and libs , my question is...someone knows what application allows add my kde applications in a GNOME menu
[05:28] <santhony12441> How do I set my desktop to automatically hibernate?
[05:28] <Yuno> h3xis: this is what i got
[05:28] <steev> jacobnix: they should just add themselves when you isntall them
[05:28] <Yuno> Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x720' directory
[05:28] <Yuno> You may override the detected version using the following syntax:
[05:28] <Flannel> gluttony: You don't.  That's... silly.  You imght look into screen.  Which will let you do sort of the same thing.
[05:28] <madman_> anyone try to get sedcond life to load?
[05:28] <gluttony> Flannel: why is that silly?
[05:28] <Frogzoo> jacobnix: sys -> prefs -> main menu
[05:28] <diabolix> how do i install a gnome applet as user?
[05:28] <Flannel> gluttony: because automatically logging in... well, do you want to let random people delete your files?
[05:28] <h3xis> Yuno do you have an ati card?
[05:29] <Yuno> yes
[05:29] <gluttony> Flannel: but im logging in through the gui, then ctrl alt to the terminals
[05:29] <Pelo> diabolix,  you don'T you need sudo
[05:29] <Yuno> its ati radeon x1300
[05:29] <madman_> 64 bit or 32 bit..  cant get second life to  run
[05:29] <diabolix> Pelo, i want to put it in my home directory.
[05:29] <Flannel> gluttony: Theyre all separate things.  each tty is an entirely separate entity
[05:29] <madman_> under feisty fawn
[05:29] <gluttony> Flannel: ok
[05:30] <madman_> anyone have a clue
[05:30] <madman_> ?
[05:30] <UzzaDead> i want linux on my xbox 360
[05:30] <diabolix> you should be capable of installing everything in you're home directory...
[05:30] <linuxnub> hihi can someone help me to make a symlink to /dev/dvd plz
[05:30] <Pelo> diabolix,  are you new to linux ?
[05:30] <diabolix> Pelo, nope.
[05:30] <h3xis> Yuno i'm looking
[05:30] <SpeakerMania> I can't view my Windows drive through Ubuntu. I have Edgy
[05:31] <Yuno> k thanks ^-^
[05:31] <madman_> will secondlife run under a 64bit version of ubuntu?
[05:31] <UzzaDead> im new but old, i used to compile gentoo and my own kernels and everything but forgot most of it :(
[05:31] <madman_> I bet money no one here has a clue
[05:31] <gluttony> well, thanks to everyone who answered my q's. im out
[05:31] <UzzaDead> i'd bet that it wont madman_
[05:31] <Pelo> diabolix, ok just checking because your question soundedvery strange to me,    run sudo to install stuff,  any user with access should be able to use it I think
[05:31] <PurpZeY> If I shutdown with the volume muted, will Ubuntu still play the system sounds when I boot up?
[05:31] <madman_> fine
[05:31] <linuxnub> my cdrom seems to be unnaccessable due to missing symlink in fiesty
[05:31] <madman_> i tried it under a 32 bit version
[05:31] <Pollifax> hi
[05:31] <madman_> what libraries need to be installed
[05:31] <madman_> googled this crap
[05:32] <madman_> found 3 that dont exist
[05:32] <diabolix> Pelo, I don't want to install a deb package, i want to put an applet in my home...
[05:32] <UzzaDead> i found the 32bit generally more compatible than 64bit in some aspects but i have no experience with second life
[05:32] <diabolix> Pelo, i've installed compilers in my home.. this should be easy.. but i'm having trouble...
[05:32] <h3xis> Yuno try X_VERSION=x710 sudo ./ati*
[05:32] <madman_> yeah... true that 32bit more compatible with everything
[05:32] <SpeakerMania>  I can't view my Windows drive through Ubuntu. I have Edgy. Can anyone help?
[05:32] <gluttony> wait, apparetly apt-get cant find finch
[05:32] <kandrews> Hi, can anybody tell me where the console configuration files are? My caps lock key doesn't work on startup in the consoles but does work once a rerun 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup', however, that is getting tedious. Thanks!
[05:32] <UzzaDead> i used to think linux was out to kill me until i started to understand more of it
[05:33] <madman_> second  life and ubuntu help me out
[05:33] <Pelo> diabolix,  you know more about his then I do , I've only beenusing ubuntu for 9 months
[05:33] <UzzaDead> SpeakerMania, one sec
[05:33] <madman_> second  life and ubuntu help me out
[05:33] <madman_> please
[05:33] <Flannel> madman_: second life only has a 32bit linux client.   You'dneed to run it in a chroot
[05:33] <ajmorris_> if im in gnome using KDE app, does it use gnome proxy settings or kde's?
[05:33] <Flannel> martin91: and please stop repeating so quickly.
[05:33] <FunnyLookinHat> SpeakerMania, does it show up in your devices at all?
[05:33] <madman_> new feisty fawn is a pain in the ass
[05:33] <SpeakerMania> No.
[05:33] <Pelo> madman_, check the forum
[05:33] <madman_> I know flannel
[05:33] <Yuno> YES
[05:33] <gluttony> bruenig: i cant install finch
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> SpeakerMania, Try going to Places - Computer - Filesystem - Media
[05:34] <Yuno> THANK YOU IT WORKED
[05:34] <SpeakerMania> Crap, I have to chat with a Quest person, be back in a little
[05:34] <h3xis> Yuno :p
[05:34] <UzzaDead> its probably not in his fstab or something
[05:34] <bruenig> gluttony, yes I know, ubuntu is a bit behind in its pidgin situation or they are intentionally behind waiting for gutsy
[05:34] <gluttony> dang
[05:34] <h3xis> Yuno when the dialog pops up it will ask if you want to generate packages or just install the modules. tell it to just install the modules. do NOT generate the ubuntu packages
[05:34] <gluttony> know anyother i.m. bruenig?
[05:35] <madman_> I want to pull my hair out im used to bsd
[05:35] <diabolix> bruenig, ubuntu doesn't update needlessly between releases.
[05:35] <FunnyLookinHat> SpeakerMania, sounds good
[05:35] <bruenig> no I would just compile
[05:35] <steev> bruenig: flannel told me repos get frozen at launch. pidgin wasn't availabile till after fiesty, so it'll be in gutsy
[05:35] <Pelo> ajmorris_,  gnome and kde are just interfaces, the settings they control are the same
[05:35] <rukuartic> Is there anything in linux like 'start service' for RedHat? I'm curious :P
[05:35] <Pelo> moreor less
[05:35] <luckyaba13> my webcam is showing a blue picture. anyway to adjust it?
[05:35] <bruenig> diabolix, yes that is what I mean, intentionally behind was the best way I could think of putting it
[05:35] <Yuno> definitly saving this for future reference
[05:35] <gluttony> bruenig: compile?
[05:35] <bruenig> gluttony, get the source code and compile away
[05:35] <UzzaDead> SpeakerMania, try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[05:35] <Pelo> rukuartic, menu > system > prefs > sessions ? is that what you want ?
[05:35] <kandrews> gluttony: try centericq if you are looking for a command line messenger similar to finch.
[05:36] <h3xis> rukuartic you do it by running /etc/init.d/<service name> start|stop|restart
[05:36] <ajmorris_> Pelo, kk tks
[05:36] <JimM> Hey everyone, quick question. Is the Server version of Ubuntu 7.04 just the desktop with the Server tools installed?
[05:36] <bhuey_> Hello, I'm having dm-linear Device look up failed messages all over the place with my custom kernel. I have raid enabled and the device manager driver compiled in.
[05:36] <gluttony> kandrews: is that only for irc? or does it do aim?
[05:36] <diabolix> i don't know if i should be happy or upset that people are using linux and not knowing what it means to compile something...
[05:36] <bhuey_> Anybody know what's going on with that ?
[05:36] <NemesisD> anyone have any experience with funambol? im trying to get contacts between my blackberry and a local installation of SugarCRM
[05:36] <UzzaDead> SpeakerMania, did you get my message?
[05:36] <Pollifax> i have a graphics/video related question if anyone can help
[05:37] <kandrews> gluttony: it does most of the ones that pidgin does. I used it for msn, myself
[05:37] <UzzaDead> Pollifax,  ask away
[05:37] <Pelo> diabolix, I just know enough to compile apps I need,  and I donT' compile to my home folder I just trst the commands to do what they do and I'm happywith it
[05:37] <SpeakerMania> What message? I'm 3 in line for talking to Quest about my bhigh speed problem.
[05:37] <SpeakerMania> bbs
[05:37] <bimberi> JimM: no, there's no gui but it has a selection of server related packages (samba, mysql, apache ....) instead
[05:37] <DanaG> I have pidgin in Fiesty -- however, the way I did it is EXTREMELY hackish:
[05:37] <gluttony> kandrews: cool thanks
[05:37] <diabolix> Pelo, i wasn't refering to you specifically.. i was commenting on what someone said before.
[05:37] <JimM> Bimberi, on the default install would I be able to install either KDE or Gnome along with X fairly easily?
[05:38] <UzzaDead> SpeakerMania, try this for your drives problem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[05:38] <Pollifax> if i try to use an emulator, or other application full screen, my video is distorted - like the V-hold on an old television
[05:38] <kandrews> gluttony: no problem
[05:38] <diabolix> Pelo, if you know what sudo is you can't be clueless.
[05:38] <FunnyLookinHat> diabolix, it's GREAT that people can finally use linux without having to compile...  make's it user-friendly    :-D
[05:38] <bimberi> JimM: sure.  you would install [k] ubuntu-desktop
[05:38] <jacobnix> Frogzoo thanks, but someone i dont remember who ....someone post that exists an application to add KDE applications in Gnome MENU
[05:38] <DanaG> Download the deb, install with dpkg --force-depends-version -i pidgin*.deb, then edit /var/lib/dpkg/status to remove everthing that references it.
[05:38] <bhuey_> This was a big fiesty upgrade
[05:38] <JimM> Bimberi, thanks for the help. I appreciate it :).
[05:38] <jacobnix> for example
[05:38] <DanaG> er, everything about, not everything that references.
[05:38] <bimberi> JimM: np :)
[05:39] <jacobnix> i have installed Kate
[05:39] <h3xis> Yuno dont forget to edit your xorg.conf when youve installed them
[05:39] <Gurpartap> Whats good to download a audio file via rtsp protocol? :)
[05:39] <Gurpartap> way*
[05:39] <jacobnix> but in sys-pref-mainmenu ....doesnt no appear kate to add in gnome menu
[05:39] <Pollifax> any takers?
[05:39] <Pelo> jacobnix,  you add it
[05:39] <oldude67_> why am i hearing people downloading kernel 2.6.21?
[05:40] <scamboy> helo everyone...
[05:40] <h3xis> oldude67_ because it's current?
[05:40] <DanaG> dynticks, for one.
[05:40] <Pelo> oldude67_,  the new thing, the in thing , the now thing ,
[05:40] <Flannel> oldude67_: because people are uner the assumption that bigger version numbers are always better
[05:40] <Pollifax> i want to pop your kernel
[05:40] <oldude67_> how would i do that?
[05:40] <Pelo> Pollifax,  just ask the question
[05:40] <rukuartic> h3xis: I know... its just much cooler to do start-service /whatever/
[05:40] <Fivetwentysix> I clicked on themes and got an error
[05:40] <Pollifax> i did already
[05:40] <Fivetwentysix> Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'.
[05:40] <Fivetwentysix> Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager.
[05:40] <rukuartic> Pelo: Ty by the way :P
[05:40] <scamboy> QUESTION: Does ubuntu falls under the Free & Open Source Software or the other way round???
[05:41] <Flannel> scamboy: Yes.  Ubuntu is FOSS
[05:41] <Pelo> rukuartic, too late,  statled gratitude is not appreciated
[05:41] <Pollifax> i need to fine tune my video, but this operating system is organized different than what im used to
[05:41] <SpeakerMania> I'm next, wish me luck
[05:41] <rukuartic> =P
[05:41] <Pollifax> if i run something fullscreen its distorted
[05:41] <scamboy> flannel: can you refer me to any website pls?
[05:41] <h3xis> rukuartic you cant do that in ubuntu
[05:41] <Flannel> scamboy: a website for what?
[05:41] <scamboy> flannel: that says ubuntu is foss
[05:42] <rukuartic> k31th: perhaps some script... !#/bin/bash / /etc/init.d/$1 start
[05:42] <Pelo> Pollifax,  you'll need to get a lot more specific then that
[05:42] <jacobnix> Pelo: but when i installed an application from synaptic, not only kate it is installed , more kde applications dependencies were installed
[05:42] <Flannel> scamboy: ubuntu.com
[05:42] <jacobnix> and i donkt know which applications
[05:42] <Pollifax> well, ive got an ATI graphics card, got the driver for it installed
[05:42] <scamboy> flannel: nope..it only say that ubuntu comes with foss
[05:42] <_hp_> anyone sucessfully got dual display working on a macbook?
[05:42] <Pollifax> cant tell shit from shit to see if i have done it correctly
[05:43] <Pelo> jacobnix,  dependencies dont, appear in the menues, only the applications,   most dependencies are librairies and stuff like that
[05:43] <jacobnix> pelo: i refered to applications like kate , quanta, kfilereplace
[05:43] <Pelo> Pollifax, did you use the restricted driver item in   menu >`system > admin ?
[05:43] <jacobnix> pelo som kde apps there are in gnome menu
[05:44] <Pelo> jacobnix, if they are not in the menu you add then to the menu,  you need to remember what you installed to do that
[05:44] <Pelo> jacobnix, then add the others
[05:44] <Pollifax> "your hardware does not need restricted drivers"
[05:44] <X-Martin> anyone here can help me mounting Windows shared-folder to Ubuntu ?
[05:44] <Pollifax> is what she told me
[05:44] <crdlb> Pollifax: what ati card is it?
[05:44] <jacobnix> pelo : but how to know which kde apps is installed ....mmmmm...mmm i supposed query to synaptic .....
[05:44] <Pelo> Pollifax,  what kind of distrotion are you seeing ? and what kind of monitor do you have ?
[05:45] <Sergo> hello, what bit torrents client is good
[05:45] <Flannel> scamboy: What?  Ubuntu is nothing but a conglomeration of FOSS software.  I don't understand what you're asking specifically
[05:45] <Sergo> =] 
[05:45] <Pelo> jacobnix, only happs you have decided to install will have been installed,  when you are running gnome there are no kde apps by default
[05:45] <jacobnix> pelo: i konw
[05:45] <jacobnix> pelo: i know
[05:45] <scamboy> flannel: hmn...nvm...thanks...
[05:45] <Pollifax> radeon
[05:45] <Sergo> !torrents
[05:45] <pants> monzsca
[05:45] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[05:46] <Pelo> jacobnix, so you should know which kde app you have installed
[05:46] <Yuno> Sergo: Azureus
[05:46] <Pollifax> the model number eludes me at the moment, i opened her up to see if it was printed on it, but alas
[05:46] <crdlb> Pollifax: lspci|grep VGA
[05:46] <Sergo> Yuno on the slow pc it will run slowly
[05:46] <Sergo> =[
[05:46] <Yuno> yes
[05:46] <Pollifax> the distortion looks like its trying to draw in an unsupported resolution
[05:46] <Yuno> hmm
[05:46] <ahp_duncan> Quick question, in xchat, how can I see the userlist?
[05:47] <jacobnix> pelo: yes....now changing the idea , about kickoff kde menu ,.....can i installed kde right now to see the new kde menu?
[05:47] <Pelo> Pollifax,   try looking up the kind of distrotion you say you are seeing in the forum,  maybe you will find a way to fix it there
[05:47] <Yuno> get automatrix2
[05:47] <crdlb> ahp_duncan: are you sure it's Xchat, not Xchat-gnome?
[05:47] <Pollifax> the colors are ok, its bands
[05:47] <Pollifax> i have tried pelo
[05:47] <Yuno> it has a few client in it
[05:47] <Jarrod> <ahp_duncan its there crushed to the right
[05:47] <Pollifax> thats why i came to real life people
[05:47] <Pelo> jacobnix,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <jacobnix> pelo: or is unavailabel for now
[05:47] <Sergo> i'll try deluge for some days but it's not very well =] 
[05:47] <Pelo> jacobnix,  you'llhave to wait then
[05:48] <crdlb> !automatix | Yuno
[05:48] <ubotu> Yuno: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:48] <Pollifax> horizontal bands of fucked upness
[05:48] <crdlb> !language | Pollifax
[05:48] <ubotu> Pollifax: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:48] <jacobnix> pelo: where are you from?
[05:48] <Pollifax> sorry
[05:48] <Pollifax> my bad
[05:48] <X-Martin> anyone can help me out with mounting Windows Shared-Folder in Ubuntu ?
[05:48] <mark_> dd
[05:49] <Pelo> Pollifax,  sounds a bit like a horizsync proble,   sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.cong find the horizsync value and ajust it
[05:49] <ahp_duncan> thanks, but I don't see it..
[05:49] <Jarrod> how can i get it to see my thumbdrive?
[05:49] <Pelo> jacobnix, canada
[05:49] <meuhlol> hello all
[05:49] <Pelo> Jarrod,  plug it in it should get mounted to your desktop
[05:49] <GTroy_> !modules
[05:49] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[05:49] <ahp_duncan> Jarrod, I don't think its crushed to the right
[05:49] <majnoon> anyone else having trouble burning cdroms after feisty upgrade ???
[05:49] <Pollifax> xorg.cong or xorg.conf
[05:49] <FunnyLookinHat> X-Martin, it can be a bit finnicky....   but the best way to do it is to have the computer running windows be set to a static IP and then go to Places - Connect to Server - and then choose "Windows Share" as the server type and fill in the info
[05:50] <meuhlol> someone can help me with firefox & midi files? when im on one web page with midi music in bg, like <bgsound src=urltomidi.mid> firefox asks me for plugin, & not find any.
[05:50] <Pelo> Pollifax, .conf.  sory for the typo it is getting late
[05:50] <meuhlol> I have mplayer installed
[05:50] <bruenig> why does that thing that you control mplayer with not minimize when I tell it to
[05:50] <Jarrod> pelo: nothing new is appearing :(
[05:50] <Yuno> how do i get .AVIs to play?
[05:50] <Pelo> Jarrod,  check in my computer, it might be detected but not mounted
[05:50] <Pelo> !restricted | Yuno
[05:50] <ubotu> Yuno: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:50] <bimberi> ahp_duncan: is there a User Count (eg. "1126 Users")  If so, try clicking on it.  Note that I'm using xchat-gnome though.
[05:51] <oldude67_> can someone point me in the how tos to update kernel?
 do u have one or two scrol bars?
[05:51] <bthornton> Whereas 'echo "mytext" >> myfile ' will append "mytext" to the very last line of 'myfile', is there a way to do the same thing to the very beginning of a file?
[05:51] <Pollifax> im getting the hang of this!  now that im understanding how its set up im liking it much more than dos or windows
[05:51] <Pelo> oldude67_, don'T bother they will update automaticaly when a new stable package becomes available for ubuntu
[05:51] <oldude67_> ok
[05:52] <oldude67_> pelo: ok....will remember that....
[05:52] <Pelo> Pollifax,  it's nice to get under the hood isn't it
[05:52] <Jarrod> pelo nothing in comp cept the norm
[05:52] <Sergo> oh sheat, ubuntu slow my pc considerably
[05:52] <Sergo> :D
[05:52] <Pollifax> indeed
[05:52] <meuhlol> ubotu: already have support for this... also installed mplayer who reads avi, mpeg & others directly in firefox
[05:52] <Sergo> need to buy an ram
[05:52] <Pollifax> it feels like years wasted
[05:52] <meuhlol> LOL
[05:52] <Pelo> Jarrod, ask again in a fw minutes maybe someone will know how to fix it
[05:52] <v3n0m`> what is the sudo copy command?
[05:52] <oldude67_> i kicked windoze box to curb
[05:52] <Pelo> olddu what do you mean ? you will remember that ?  did I offend you ?
[05:53] <Pollifax> its not like i wasted money on software, its just now i can do it legally
[05:53] <meuhlol> v3n0m`: sudo copy? cp
[05:53] <v3n0m`> sudo copy doesn't work
[05:53] <Jarrod> pelo okay ill try a different drive in the mean time
[05:53] <v3n0m`> says no command 'copy'
[05:53] <oldude67_> pelo: nope, just thought i was running behind but if its not stable i dont even want to try it...
[05:53] <Sergo> meuhlol: hello.. about mplayer.. do you find that mplayer or totem overload system?
[05:53] <mark_> Anyone know where I can get a complete list of edubuntu educational software ?
[05:54] <v3n0m`> nevermind
[05:54] <inrs> Hi
[05:54] <v3n0m`> ill use the cut command
[05:54] <bthornton> does bash have any operand to append text to the beginning of a file?  i.e. similar to the >> operand, but instead insert text at the first line...
[05:54] <Frogzoo> v3n0m`: man cp
[05:54] <inrs> I'm trying to install my wireless usb adapter using ndiswrapper
[05:54] <mark_> Anyone know where I can get a complete list of edubuntu educational software ?
[05:54] <meuhlol> Sego, im on kubuntu, and dont use totem, use mplayer to have direct stream reading in Firefox
[05:54] <inrs> i've alrady tested the documentation
[05:54] <inrs> but
[05:55] <v3n0m`> oh I thought that was some sort of smiley..lol thanks
[05:55] <Pelo> oldude67_,  basicaly you have ppl working on this stuff all the time, and there is a new version almost every month,  if you like life on the edge go for it,  but stiking with the distros release and upgrades is usualy safest and less trouble all around
[05:55] <meuhlol> v3n0m`: cp (file to copy) (file to save)
[05:55] <Pelo> v3n0m`,  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[05:55] <inrs> i can use wlist and see my wireless network
[05:55] <Pollifax> hey i just noticed something - my xorg.conf makes no mention of my graphics card - it keeps saying generic gfx card - is that right?
[05:55] <inrs> but i can't connect to it
[05:56] <inrs> DHCP didn't get any ip address
[05:56] <v3n0m`> Frogzoo, meuhlol, Pelo: thanks
[05:56] <oldude67_> pelo: well i made my disc about 3 weeks before it was released and i think it installed an older version ....thats why i was wondering
[05:56] <meuhlol> v3n0m`: np
[05:56] <Pelo> Pollifax,  that is possible, I've never paid much atention t that bit
[05:56] <cryedwolf> hey could someone tell me how to change the login splashbar of edgy
[05:56] <cryedwolf> ??
[05:56] <meuhlol> so sergo, have an idea?
[05:56] <mark_> Anyone know where I can get a complete list of edubuntu educational software ?
[05:56] <bimberi> mark_: Applications -> Add/Remove... and click on the "Education" category
[05:56] <Pelo> oldude67_,  if you are running feisty you've been updated
[05:56] <Sergo> meuhlol: idea on what?=] 
[05:57] <oldude67_> pelo:cool...
[05:57] <meuhlol> how to let firefox play midi, when midi is inside server, on page, embed src...
[05:57] <Pelo> cryedwolf,  check for usplash in the forum
[05:57] <meuhlol> firefox asks for plugin
[05:58] <Pelo> cryedwolf,  I donT take pm from ppl I don'T know talk to me in the channel
[05:58] <Flannel> oldude67_: if you installed an alpha/beta release of FF, just normal upgrades will get you to the release version
[05:58] <cryedwolf> pelo, ok sos
[05:59] <dru> hello
[05:59] <Pelo> helo dru
[05:59] <dru> i still would like to know why my firefox crashed when i view flash videos
[05:59] <oldude67_> Flannel:ya pelo told me but thanks anyways....apreciate it....im a newbie
[05:59] <dru> if it diddnt do it on windows .. why is it doing it now?
[05:59] <meuhlol> dru reinstall flash plugin
[05:59] <dru> i did 3 times
[05:59] <meuhlol> i had this one at youtube - paf freeze and may to kill process xD
[06:00] <bimberi> !fffc | dru
[06:00] <ubotu> dru: If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )
[06:00] <FunnyLookinHat> dru, are you on 64-Bit Ubuntu by any chance?
[06:00] <meuhlol> after i del my firefox & plugins, after reinstalled all
[06:00] <camonz> hello
[06:00] <dru> but there is just too many problems with linux
[06:00] <dru> im switching back to windows ... i have no photoshop, no zune ... and firefox keeps messing up
[06:00] <camonz> i was wondering how to edit CFLAGS. i'm having problems with erlang and crypto suppoert
[06:00] <dru> i gave it a run, dont like it .. ill still to the crash happy windows
[06:00] <oldude67_> me too
[06:01] <meuhlol> dru me like photoshop too, but me have two pc xD othervise install windows into VirtualBox ;)
[06:01] <Pelo> bye bye dru  hope you enjoy yourself, be safe
[06:01] <dru> what do u mean?
[06:01] <Greatmetal> Firefox works Gimp is just as good as photoshop to me and Zune ROFLROFL LOL
[06:01] <dru> virtual box?
[06:01] <meuhlol> VirtualBox => Virtual Machine xD
[06:01] <Fivetwentysix> Is there any php TiDy programs for ubuntu?
[06:01] <FunnyLookinHat> dru, well yea...  of course photoshop doesn't work...  there is no version for linux  : )         sorry to hear about your zune not working though, most mp3 players work fine
[06:01] <Fivetwentysix> My code is a mess :-(
[06:01] <meuhlol> wait dru
[06:01] <dru> gimp = watered down photoshop to long time users ... and zune yea works with my 360 and microsoft points
[06:01] <bimberi> Greatmetal: that isn't really helping ;)
[06:01] <Greatmetal> Yeah :)
[06:02] <Pelo> Fivetwentysix,   open up synaptic,   use the search option and look up packages relating to php
[06:02] <Greatmetal> I mean just who in their right mind would buy a Zune
[06:02] <dru> meuhlol: i dont get what u mean tho by virtual machine .. how do i install it?
[06:02] <FunnyLookinHat> Greatmetal, good question...  I don't know who   :)
[06:02] <dru> i would ... better resolution and screen size than ipod .... but lets stick on topic to ubuntu
[06:02] <vbabiy> what software can I use to print to PDF
[06:02] <Pelo> Greatmetal,  FunnyLookinHat  this is a support channel not a bashing one
[06:03] <Flannel> vbabiy: what are you trying to print
[06:03] <Frogzoo> vbabiy: install a PDF print driver
[06:03] <vbabiy> from firefox
[06:03] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I finally got qemu / KVM to get an IP address and networking,
[06:03] <FunnyLookinHat> Pelo, chill dude, my one off-topic comment is hardly more than your little comments about enjoying your PM-blocker script.
[06:03] <Greatmetal> I guess. dru did you try mounting your Zune manually?
[06:03] <DanaG> but now the VM doesn't have a route to the outside network.
[06:03] <meuhlol> dru: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[06:03] <dru> wouldnt know how
[06:03] <vbabiy> Frogzoo: where do i get one
[06:03] <dru> i tryed asking in the chat
[06:03] <kandrews> Hi, which init script would I edit if I wanted to run a command at boot?
[06:03] <DanaG> Oddly, my iAudio6 still shows up as Mass Storage even in MTP mode.
[06:04] <dru> all i got was ususb commands
[06:04] <dru> and that diddnt help
[06:04] <bimberi> kandrews: /etc/rc.local (if it's to be run as root)
[06:04] <kandrews> bimberi: thanks!
[06:04] <bimberi> kandrews: np
[06:04] <meuhlol> dru
[06:04] <meuhlol> it have xD
[06:05] <dru> meuhlol: yes?
[06:05] <meuhlol> you just need to configure it, like "network card connected"
[06:05] <meuhlol> in VM
[06:05] <camonz> where are downlaoded apt-get packages stored?
[06:05] <meuhlol> i use it xD
[06:05] <ori> is there a way to get aspire built in Ali webcams to work on ubuntu?
[06:05] <vbabiy> is there a package that will install a PDF Printer
[06:05] <bimberi> camonz: /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:05] <crdlb> Greatmetal: the zune is MTP; it doesn't mount at all :)
[06:05] <camonz> bimberi: thanks!, i was also wondering how to edit CFLAGS so i can compile from source
[06:05] <Flannel> vbabiy: install cups-pdf
[06:05] <FunnyLookinHat> vbabiy, as far as I know there isn't....  but a lot of programs can save in PDF format (such as OpenOffice and Gimp)
[06:06] <vbabiy> thanks Flannel
[06:06] <FunnyLookinHat> vbabiy, sorry ignore my response, Flannel knows   : )
[06:06] <bimberi> camonz: whoa, a bit of a leap for me that one.  dunno sorry
[06:06] <bimberi> !compile | camonz
[06:06] <ubotu> camonz: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:07] <camonz> thanks!
[06:07] <Flannel> vbabiy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PDFPrinting
[06:07] <meuhlol> So someone knows how to activate midi support in firefox? :S
[06:07] <vbabiy> thanks Flannel
[06:08] <homanj> i want to create a vmware image of windows xp, is there a way besides installing windows and using vmware converter?
[06:10] <Jack31> Is there a timidity front end for linux?
[06:10] <bimberi> homanj: you can create an image by installing XP using vmware-server
[06:11] <homanj> bimberi: thanks.
[06:12] <bimberi> homanj: yw.  btw, vmware-server is available in feisty-commercial
[06:12] <homanj> bimberi: ah, cool. thanks again
[06:12] <bimberi> homanj:  np :)
[06:13] <Sergo> use kubuntu
[06:13] <Sergo> the ubuntu and gtk are slow
[06:13] <Sergo> :))
[06:13] <homanj> bimberi: how do i enable commercial?
[06:15] <homanj> bimberi: nvm, i found it.
[06:15] <cables> Is there any way, in Deluge, to set which files I want to download? I unchecked the ones I don't in the Files tab, ut it still seems to be downloading them.
[06:15] <bimberi> homanj: it might be available via Applications -> Add/Remove...
[06:15] <DanaG> Any idea on the routing for Qemu?
[06:15] <DanaG> I'm using VDE.
[06:15] <pirate-king> i installed xmms how do I get it to play mp3's
[06:15] <bimberi> homanj: cool, otherwise I can give you the sources.list line
[06:15] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and where was that alsa-hg howto?
[06:16] <homanj> bimberi: a quick search got me the sources.lost line
[06:16] <homanj> bimberi: at least i think so.
[06:16] <homanj> bimberi: and you were right, server is in add/remove apps
[06:16] <bimberi> homanj: great, thanks for confirming
[06:16] <homanj> bimberi: np.
[06:16] <homanj> bimberi: now we both know
[06:17] <bimberi> :)
[06:17] <linuxnub> hello can someone help me to mount my dvd drive plz
[06:18] <Jack31> Is there a gui for timidity
[06:18] <homanj> bimberi: only problem, is that vmware player and vmware server conflict. cannot be installed at the same time.
[06:20] <kraut> moin
[06:20] <bimberi> homanj: ah, ok :|
[06:20] <SquirreL> quick question. if I do a complete reinstall, will the installer keep my usr files?
[06:21] <Flannel> SquirreL: /usr? or /home?
[06:21] <homanj> bimberi: though, i can create the image with server. and then use it with player. i dont necessarily need both installed at the same time.
[06:21] <SquirreL> "/home" sorry
[06:21] <homanj> bimberi: am i correct
[06:21] <Flannel> SquirreL: do you have /home on it's own partition?
[06:22] <SquirreL> I have linux on it's own partition, but not home itself
[06:22] <Flannel> SquirreL: then no.  If you make /home it's own partition, you'll reinstall and mount (and not format) home, but currently your stuff will get overwritten
[06:22] <lamalex> allo, I need help burning an iso from the command line
[06:23] <lamalex> I can't get the md5sum to check out
[06:23] <insomniac190> I am trying to change the mac address for my network card...can someone tell me if what i am doing would work?
[06:23] <SquirreL> Flannel: ok thanks, I guess I will just back it up before then overright again. Thanks
[06:23] <Flannel> !backup | SquirreL
[06:23] <ubotu> SquirreL: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[06:23] <phagg> how's ubuntu 7
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> very nice phagg
[06:23] <phagg> is the ntfs support ready to go?
[06:24] <phagg> i mean can you write to it without problems?
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> it works well enough.. you can install ntfs3g, but you still might lose data
[06:24] <phagg> bah
[06:24] <cyros> in the lastest version yea i believe u have to enable it im not sure though
[06:25] <phagg> ill have to test it out :D
[06:25] <yunno> is h3xis still here?
[06:25] <phagg> !cloning
[06:25] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[06:25] <lamalex> anyone know anything about command line burning isos?
[06:25] <h3xis> yunno yes
[06:25] <yunno> ok
[06:25] <yunno> well... now i have another problem
[06:25] <Punkunity> i need help with converting an AVI file to DVD format so i can burn it onto a dvdrw disk
[06:25] <Punkunity> anyone??
[06:26] <zcat[1] > Punkunity: devede is easiest, qdvdauthor does a better job but is rather complex.
[06:26] <gortba> Hi. I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix this error that I'm getting: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[06:26] <yunno> when i try to start ubuntu with the ATI card it gives me the x-server error and a V_BIOS error
[06:27] <Punkunity> zcat[1] , i have the author program and i have heard that devede is a crappy quality
[06:27] <Adremelech> can someone help me with my deb?
[06:27] <kandrews> Hi, I have a very odd problem. I can't use my caps locks key in the tty consoles until I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup (I don't need to change any options, I just need to run it) in a console. I tried running it in a virtual console but that didn't work. I also tried adding the command to the /etc/rc.local script and that didn't work either. It seems the command must be done in a console.
[06:27] <Punkunity> zcat[1] , what about tovid , i heard it is good?
[06:27] <zcat[1] > Punkunity: well, I made some vcd's using it and they came out pretty good. It's very easy to use.
[06:28] <zcat[1] > Punkunity: devede that is, I never tried todiv
[06:28] <Punkunity> hmm...i want to copy onto dvd tho
[06:28] <mirra> can someone point me to a guide or tutorial for installing two instances of mysql on the same computer??
[06:28] <Punkunity> oh ok, ill give it a try
[06:28] <Punkunity> thanks zcat[1]  ...again
[06:28] <homanj> hmm, is there a reason why the hal update is being kept back?
[06:28] <zcat[1] > worst case you make a coaster and have to learn a better tool :)
[06:29] <ironuckles> Hello, I am having a hard time trying to do a fresh install of Ubuntu 7.04.
[06:29] <insomniac190> If I added the line hwaddress ether :mac address: to my /etc/network/interfaces file, would that change my network card's mac address?
[06:29] <Ted_Nancy> Hi again... I'm trying this on gaim (now Pidgeon)
[06:29] <Ted_Nancy> Couldn't get a chat started in Mirc
[06:29] <Ted_Nancy> Anyone there?
[06:30] <insomniac190> yes we are here
[06:30] <ironuckles> the installer doesn't even work. i get a tty error
[06:30] <yunno> h3xis: when i try to start ubuntu with the ATI card it gives me the x-server error and a V_BIOS error
[06:30] <pirate-king> I got 2 hard drives in my pc when I installed it saw both drives how come now that I installed xubuntu I can see the scsi drive?
[06:31] <bimberi> homanj: sorry I stepped away for a bit,  yes - in fact you can use server as a player.  I prefer it personally.
[06:31] <h3xis> yunno did you edit your xorg.conf?
[06:31] <Ted_Nancy> Awesome... sorry if I was spamming earlier people... I kept typing and not getting a response. Musta been Mirc.
[06:31] <yunno> *coughs* no
[06:31] <homanj> bimberi: ah, cool. nice
[06:31] <h3xis> yunno run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and go through that. when it asks you which driver you want to use say fglrx
[06:32] <kandrews> ironnuckles: do you check the md5sum of the install disc? You might have a bad ubuntu cd.
[06:32] <imbecile> I'm supposed to find my network interface.. how do i do this?
[06:33] <Ted_Nancy> New user, just installled xubuntu 7.04 on an old Compaq Armada. I've been trying to get the ethernet card going. It's PCMCIA (I think), a 3COM 3CCFEM556 B, the net says that its supported by this driver
[06:33] <Ted_Nancy> 3c574_cs driver
[06:34] <Ted_Nancy> I've tried "sudo modprobe 3c574_cs"
[06:34] <Ted_Nancy> ifup eth0
[06:34] <Ted_Nancy> to no effect
[06:35] <pr0tekk_> http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/333/kaaayuv8.jpg  :o
[06:35] <imbecile> I'm supposed to find my network interface.. how do i do this? pleeeaassee
[06:36] <abarbaccia> hello all - im having some serious grub problems with mdadm but i don't have a raid array (although i do use LVM). this all happened when i upgraded to feisty
[06:36] <Ted_Nancy> If anyone can help me load this driver to get the network interface going that would be much appreciated... the forums have not yielded an answer as yet....
[06:36] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, what do you need to do with you network interface
[06:37] <Ted_Nancy> imbecile "sudo ifconfig" should show you the network interfaces that are working.
[06:37] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx: Im trying to see whats going on in my network with ettercap
[06:37] <mirra> can someone point me to a guide on how to install mysql twice on one machine????
[06:37] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, so you are sniffing?
[06:38] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx: someone is piggybacking on my wpa2 encrypted network... yes
[06:38] <^Ocean^> is there Java 6 for ubuntu yet ?
[06:38] <kandrews> ^Ocean^: yes
[06:39] <^Ocean^> were would i find the package ?  all i find when i do apt-cache search is 5
[06:39] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, try changin wpa2 password and dont use wireless to see whats going on in your network
[06:39] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, another good sniffers are ethereal and dsniff or sniffit
[06:39] <konam> hi
[06:39] <konam> someone knows how i can do a .deb package of a theme?
[06:39] <kandrews> Can anyone point me to some information on what console-setup actually does?
[06:40] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, if you try sniffing with wireless card, you may not get any answer, that happens to me
[06:40] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  I have wireshark.. basically i'm I'm trying arp cache poisoning on my network
[06:40] <erpo> How can I get a list of files in a particular package?
[06:41] <Fezzler> olo?
[06:41] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, so why or for what you need to find your network iface?
[06:41] <kandrews> konam: what theme do you want? I'm pretty good at installing those.
[06:41] <Fezzler> orlo
[06:41] <crdlb> erpo: dpkg -L package
[06:42] <nj786> i downloaded a .rar file andi  want to know how to extract it
[06:42] <erpo> crdlb: Thanks. :)
[06:42] <crdlb> !rar
[06:42] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:42] <Ted_Nancy> lspcmia -v detects my card, "3Com Megahertz 3CCFEM556B"
[06:42] <konam> kandrews I have one theme configuration, and i know some people package them (gtk-theme, gdm, icons, etc) into a deb package. how can i do one of those?
[06:42] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  to configure ettercap i go to "sniff" and it asks me to select an interface
[06:43] <Ted_Nancy> So why can't I bring it up by modprobing my dirver, then using ifup
[06:43] <Fivetwentysix> rar is free
[06:43] <Fivetwentysix> isnt it?
[06:43] <kandrews> konam: ah, I'm sorry I can't help you with packaging .deb files
[06:43] <myr> Fivetwentysix,  the package: yes
[06:43] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, so i guess you dont have a list of devices there?
[06:43] <nj786> crdlb, can you help me?
[06:43] <konam> kandrews ok
[06:44] <nj786>  i downloaded a .rar file andi  want to know how to extract it
[06:44] <Fivetwentysix> is rar compression and decompression methods quicker than zip and tar?
[06:44] <crdlb> nj786: just install the unrar package from multiverse
[06:44] <nj786> crdlb, how do i do that?
[06:44] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, you are using ettercap-gtk right?
[06:44] <myr> nj786, in a terminal type: sudo aptitude install rar
[06:44] <navets> hey can anyone here help me out with some virtual software
[06:44] <crdlb> unrar
[06:44] <crdlb> !info unrar
[06:44] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[06:45] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  I only have one system up at the moment.. i want to get it ready for next time the log on.. yes ettercap-gtk
[06:45] <SpeakerMania> Idiots from Quest...
[06:45] <nj786> crdlb, what do i do now its done
[06:45] <crdlb> nj786: you installed unrar?
[06:46] <nj786> yesi  typed it in terminal
[06:46] <crdlb> nj786: did you install rar or unrar?
[06:46] <navets> im trying to install mac os X tiger with with virtual software. I want to know if you can open a .dmg file as a .iso file
[06:46] <nj786> crdlb, i have no idea
[06:46] <crdlb> nj786: look at what you ran
[06:46] <nj786> crdlb, all i did was type w.e u told me to on terminal
[06:46] <crdlb> I didn't tell you that
[06:47] <nj786> im sorry
 nj786, in a terminal type: sudo aptitude install rar
[06:47] <nj786> he told me that
[06:47] <crdlb> then you need to: sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:47] <myr> unrar isnt free
[06:47] <mobutu> isnt there a package named unrar-free ?
[06:47] <nj786> myr...where can i find this unrar?
[06:47] <crdlb> but it's not as good
[06:48] <nj786> i need to uninstall it
[06:48] <nj786> myr?
[06:48] <kandrews> hey, is there a way to scroll up in a console?
[06:48] <nj786> myr,it isnt free?
[06:48] <mobutu> you could download the real rar source and make a package with checkinstall, then install it
[06:48] <mobutu> what features is unrar-free missing ?
[06:48] <crdlb> nj786: free as in freedom, not as in price
[06:48] <myr> nj786, restart nautilus by typing nautilus -q
[06:48] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, i now see, it displays invalid interface right?
[06:49] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  yes
[06:49] <crdlb> mobutu: support for the latest version of rar I believe
[06:49] <myr> nj786, then you will be able to extract the file by right clicking on it an selecting extract here
[06:49] <nj786> myr, it doesnt work like that
[06:49] <myr> rar is free afaik
[06:49] <linuxnub> hey anyone know how to make a symlink to /dev/dvd for the cdrom drive?
[06:49] <ColdBeer> Hey does anyone ever use postfix in here?
[06:49] <nj786> myr, what do i do
[06:49] <crdlb> rar is in multiverse
[06:49] <crdlb> which implies it isn't
[06:50] <sileni> hello how do i set 777 with chmod to all the files in a directory
[06:50] <sileni> in ubuntu dapper ><
[06:50] <bulmer> why would one even use rar? isnt that more of a windows archiving than nix kind?
[06:50] <RAOF> sileni: "chmod 777 *" should do it.
[06:50] <melon> does anybody have a link (or a solution) to how i'd recover ubuntu after i accidentally partitioned the hd?
[06:50] <feross> ColdBeer: I use postfix, what's your question?
[06:50] <myr> nj786, restart nautilus by typing nautilus -q
[06:50] <RAOF> bulmer: It's warez kiddies archiving :)
[06:50] <crdlb> you have to be able to open them :)
[06:50] <nj786> myr, into terminal?
[06:51] <myr> nj786, yes
[06:51] <RAOF> sileni: If you're not the owner of the files, you'll need root privs, which you can get with "sudo chmod 777 *"
[06:51] <mobutu> where i d0wnload warez ?
[06:51] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, trying to configure it but the same error.. try using dsniff or sniffit
[06:51] <crdlb> mobutu: not here :)
[06:51] <myr> i guess rar isnt free :[
[06:51] <myr> nj786, then you will be able to extract the file by right clicking on it an selecting extract here
[06:51] <nj786> myr, now what
[06:52] <insomniac190> what are these programs httpcachecleaner and knotify...ubuntu seems to always launch them
[06:52] <ColdBeer> can i create many diferent email accounts with it?
[06:52] <ColdBeer> do i need a static ip?
[06:52] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  I'm trying to find the launcher for them.. do I launch it via terminal?
[06:52] <jacobnix> /gnome
[06:53] <feross> ColdBeer: yes you can create different email accounts with it, no you don't need a static IP but it is much better if you do.
[06:53] <crdlb> insomniac190: no idea but they may know in #kubuntu
[06:53] <nj786> myr is that it?
[06:53] <myr> yea
[06:53] <myr> nj786, then you will be able to extract the file by right clicking on it an selecting extract here
[06:53] <myr> nj786, it extracts it to a folder
[06:53] <ColdBeer> feross so can i use dyndns
[06:53] <insomniac190> !info httpcachecleaner
[06:53] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, for sniffit and dsniif?
[06:53] <ubotu> Package httpcachecleaner does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:54] <insomniac190> !knotify
[06:54] <crdlb> !find httpcachecleaner
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knotify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <ubotu> Package/file httpcachecleaner does not exist in feisty
[06:54] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  yes
[06:54] <feross> ColdBeer: yes, I'll save you some trouble.. MX records and CNAME records cannot mix.
[06:55] <ColdBeer> like so i have dybnmaic dns, and my ip is setup so that its  maxhome.homeip.org
[06:55] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx: sorry man i'm pretty new to all of this.. I just want to catch this guy
[06:55] <insomniac190> ehh its no big deal...just opens up on my application toolbar as "launching knotify"
[06:55] <myr> i like rar because it can create .rar unlike unrar
[06:55] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, for sniffit try: sudo sniffit and it will show you the help
[06:55] <ColdBeer> feross whats a mx record?
[06:55] <ColdBeer> like tree.forest.com, forest would be the mx?
[06:56] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx: ok will give it a try
[06:56] <feross> ColdBeer: no, the MX is a record that points to your email server in your domain.
[06:56] <^Ocean^> whats the command too switch your java enviroment ?
[06:57] <wlx> ^Ocean^, you mean update-alternative?
[06:57] <ColdBeer> how do i access that record?
[06:57] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, and when you install dsniff it also istall other packages try: dsniff --help, msgsnarf --help, mailsnarf --help, urlsnarff --help, filesnarf --help
[06:58] <^Ocean^> wlx: maybe ?
[06:58] <feross> ColdBeer: you put it in your DNS server.
[06:58] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, macof --help, dnsspoof --help, sshmitm --help and i think that is about it
[06:58] <ColdBeer> feross: whats a cname,
[06:59] <ColdBeer> so can i use a free dynamic dns service to host my own email?
[06:59] <Oli``> sure
[06:59] <zcat[1] > ColdBeer: a cname is like an alias; www.forest.com points to tree.forest.com. And A record says what the IP address is.. tree.forest.com is 192.168.1.2
[06:59] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, if you try dsniff -w > file.txt it will listen passwords on the default interface and will send them to file.txt
[07:00] <clinton> hallo! I seem to be having a bit of an issue -- I have  GeForce4MX4000, running 7.03, and I believe the nVidia driver is loaded, but I can't get beyond 1024x768x50hz
[07:00] <linuxnub> can anyone plz help me to get my dvd drive to work?
[07:00] <^Ocean^> wlx: how would i do it with update-alternatives ?
[07:00] <RAOF> clinton: You mean, you can't get any higher refresh rate?  That's a deliberate (but _stupid_) feature of the nvidia drivers.
[07:00] <Oli``> clinton: does the nvidia logo come up when X starts?
[07:00] <zcat[1] > ColdBeer: and in this case if you set up an MX for forest.com domain, you would want it to reference tree.forest.com, not www.forest.com
[07:00] <clinton> RAOF: I can't get a higher resolution either
[07:01] <linuxnub> can anyone plz help me to get my dvd drive to work?
[07:01] <RAOF> clinton: They mis-report the refresh rate (and use it for TwinView - your first monitor is 50hz, second is 51Hz, etc)
[07:01] <clinton> Oli``: I haven't seen, I'm on my first reboot after Ubuntu told me to :P
[07:01] <ColdBeer> zcat yes
[07:01] <kandrews> does anyone here know how to page up inside of a terminal?
[07:01] <^Ocean^> whats the command too change your Java Enviroment ?
[07:01] <rredd4> using gtkpod, where can I find mp4v2 library to load m4a files?
[07:01] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx: you are awesome.. I'm not entirely sure what i'm doing though
[07:01] <feross> ColdBeer: yes you can use dydns service to host your own email but it's not simple at all, you should read some howto for it.
[07:01] <clinton> RAOF: It's being reported in the system --> preferences --> screen resolution panel, is there a different place to configure the nvidia driver properly?
[07:01] <VoX> kandrews: shift-pgup
[07:02] <RAOF> clinton: Well, running "nvidia-settigns" from a terminal will allow you to change the refresh rate, yes.
[07:02] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  thats why i tried ettercap cuz of the gui
[07:02] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, hahaha it is just practica and follow manuals and help. try using : man dsniff or any other command and will show more help
[07:02] <clinton> RAOF: well, that explains why I'm not dying of flicker with a 50hz refresh rate, becasue it's not really 50hz :P
[07:02] <Ted_Nancy> Hey, I found a solution to my ethernet card problem, but i don't understand it. Hopefully someone can help me.
[07:03] <ColdBeer> feross, when i mean host i mean like user1 to user2 ect... ect.. whatever i like@ mymadeupemailname@freedynamicdns.com    ?
[07:03] <clinton> RAOF: any idea why I can't seem to get above 1024x768?
[07:03] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, try using ethereal it also has a gui, i rather use the command line
[07:03] <Ted_Nancy> I have this same card, and only need the ethernet to work, not the modem too.
[07:03] <RAOF> clinton: Yup, indeed.  How did you install the drivers?
[07:03] <Ted_Nancy> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-pcmcia/2007-February/004391.html
[07:03] <Ted_Nancy> The command is  cp /etc/pcmcia/cis/3CXEM556.dat /lib/firmware/3CXEM556.cis
[07:04] <Ted_Nancy> but I don't have a "cis" directory there
[07:04] <clinton> RAOF: I just installed my system about an hour ago, this is my first foray into graphical linux :P I was poking around the system preferences, and went to system --> preferences --> desktop effects
[07:04] <Ted_Nancy> oops... sorry wrong link.
[07:04] <Ted_Nancy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+bug/52510
[07:04] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  ethereal is now called wireshark right?
[07:04] <Ted_Nancy> correct link
[07:04] <RAOF> clinton: Ah, and it fired up the "Restricted Manager", yes?
[07:05] <slicknick> any ideas how to turn this hfs+ formatted mac os x install dvd to boot in vmware ?'
[07:05] <clinton> RAOF: it told me to install the invidia driver, and gave me two buttons, "install" or "cancel." I clicked install, it asked me for my password, did the install in it's beautiful idiot proof manner, then told me to reboot and run desktop effects again.
[07:05] <RAOF> clinton: There was a bug in the pre-release version of Feisty (Ubuntu 7.04) where the restricted manager would incorrectly write the wrong resolutions to xorg.conf.
[07:05] <clinton> RAOF: after the reboot, it brought up the restricted driver manager, which says it's loaded and hunky dory.
[07:05] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, i dont know visit www.ethereal.com for more info about it, but i dont think it changed name
[07:06] <kandrews> VoX: thanks, but it isn't working for me in my terminal. It only works inside of my 'Terminal' application. Can you use it in you
[07:06] <RAOF> clinton: But if you're using the full release, I thought that was fixed.  However, it should be easy to fix.
[07:06] <zcat[1] > ColdBeer: if you don't have a static address I would suggest borrow a mailserver (gmail or something) and use fetchmail.. otherwise it's really complex and there's a good chance your mail will get lost or given to someone else..
[07:06] <kandrews> VoX: in your /dev/tty terminals?
[07:06] <RAOF> !resolution > clinton <--- First, check out the link in the private message from ubotu.
[07:07] <VoX> kandrews: yeah
[07:07] <zcat[1] > .. and besides I don't know how you'd set it up :)
[07:07] <bullgard4> Synaptic does not show me any hwmon package. But I have 30 files in my Ubuntu 7.04 containing a 'hwmon' string. What is the associated DEB program package?
[07:08] <Punkunity> I really need help installing a .tar.gz file, i forget how to , and I cant cd into the dir for some reason
[07:08] <zcat[1] > bullgard4: apt-cache search hwmon  ?
[07:08] <RAOF> bullgard4: dpkg to your rescue!  "dpkg -S _filename_" will list all packages containing that file.
[07:08] <Punkunity> anybody?
[07:09] <Punkunity> i have dowbnloaded tovid-0.30.tar.gz onto my desktop
[07:09] <Punkunity> and I cannot cd into the directory after I extract here to the desktop
[07:09] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  so i can do a mitm with just ethereal?
[07:09] <clinton> RAOF: okay, so the section I want is "You use the "nvidia" driver (Binary drivers)
[07:09] <kandrews> VoX: thanks, that is another thing I need to fix then.
[07:10] <feross> Punkunity: tar zxvf tovid...tar.gz   to extract
[07:10] <sah10_br> Does anyone know how to print in economic mode on Ubuntu Feisty?
[07:10] <zcat[1] > Punkunity: cd Desktop/tovid-0.30
[07:10] <djzn> hi... how do I install compiz themes in FEISTY?
[07:10] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, nope
[07:10] <Punkunity> n ow i just moved it into my home folder i am going to try it there, there is very poor explainations on how to do this on the net
[07:10] <Punkunity> ty zcat[1] 
[07:10] <Punkunity> brb zcat[1] 
[07:10] <zcat[1] > then probably ./configure
[07:11] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  what else do i need to do?
[07:11] <sah10_br> djzn: I think u can install emerald
[07:11] <Punkunity> ./configure and everything went well zcat[1]   ty again, i am going to write that down lol
[07:11] <RAOF> clinton: There should have been a suggestion to run the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in that link, right?  That should fix your problem (when you select the right set of resolutions)
[07:11] <m_bison21> could anyone tell me if there is a way to lower the delay it takes for an autohide taskbar to come back? if so, i would greatly appreciate some help..
[07:11] <ubuntubeginz> djzn : maybe this will help.. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html
[07:11] <zcat[1] > Punkunity: cool, if no errors, the next step is 'make' and then 'make install' usually
[07:12] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, try changing your wpa key
[07:12] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, use capital letters and numbers if possible
[07:12] <m_bison21> well...i guess nobody knows.
[07:12] <m_bison21> oh well
[07:13] <m_bison21> or maybe i wasn't very clear..
[07:13] <ubuntubeginz> for a moment, i thought RoAkSoAx was being rude... wat kinda a nick is a imbecile... sigh...
[07:13] <m_bison21> by come back i of course mean...pop back up
[07:13] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, or instead of changing your wpa key to a hard one, try using a filter, can be mac filter or IP filter
[07:13] <RAOF> djzn: You don't, because Compiz themes don't exist.
[07:13] <sah10_br> How can I print in economic mode in Feisty?
[07:13] <djzn> so
[07:14] <djzn> this desktop effects things in FEISTY
[07:14] <clinton> RAOF: upon the edit of xorg.conf, do I need to reboot?
[07:14] <djzn> is it themable?
[07:14] <RAOF> djzn: The things labelled as "compiz themes" are actually for beryl before it was called beryl.
[07:14] <imbecile> ubuntubeginz:  It happens all the time
[07:14] <zcat[1] > djzn: yes, the same way the regular desktop is..
[07:14] <djzn> because the beryl themes, are bin files
[07:14] <RAOF> djzn: Yes, it uses your Gnome themes.  (Or KDE themes, if you are using kde-window-decorator)
[07:14] <djzn> these .bin packs
[07:14] <djzn> how do i install it?
[07:15] <djzn> .bin packs gotten from beryl-themes.org
[07:15] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  that doesnt help me catch whoever it is.. although I do have my suspicions
[07:15] <zcat[1] > djzn: I think you need to be using beryl to use those themes
[07:15] <m_bison21> so...how do i lower the delay time it takes for a taskbar that has been autohidden to pop back up when i move my mouse over it?
[07:15] <djzn> ok so what technology engine spins for Desktop Effects Ubuntu 7.04 preview
[07:16] <zcat[1] > beryl has it's own emerald theme manager (and it's own way of fetching themes from repositories)
[07:16] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, yeah it wont catch but at least you can filter those who are connected and find out who is he, but using a packet filter will tell you who is doing what
[07:16] <zcat[1] > djzn: the desktop effects stuff is compiz; beryl is a fork and quite a lot different now.
[07:16] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, or at least it will show which kind of packets is sending
[07:17] <djzn> so
[07:17] <djzn> the compiz thing
[07:17] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, other tool that you can use is tcpdump
[07:17] <sah10_br> Can't I print in Economic Mode?? Please, someone.. =/
[07:17] <djzn> cannot read these .bin themes
[07:17] <zcat[1] > djzn: so apt-get install beryl-manager seryl-settings emerald
[07:17] <pirate-king> I got 2 hard drives in my pc when I installed it saw both drives how come now that I installed xubuntu I can see the scsi drive?
[07:17] <m_bison21> for some reason terminal won't open...it just sits there for about 10-15 seconds trying to load...then it does nothing
[07:17] <m_bison21> what do i need to do to fix it?
[07:18] <djzn> ok zcat[1]  downloading now
[07:18] <pirate-king> I got 2 hard drives in my pc when I installed it saw both drives how come now that I installed xubuntu I can see the scsi drive?
[07:18] <Punkunity> it said it installed tovid but then it told me to get txt2tags and that is a .tgz file and I cant cd into that the same way zcat[1] 
[07:18] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  thanks man.. i really dont know what i'm doing some guy told me i could catch him that way so I'm giving it a try
[07:18] <pirate-king> I got 2 hard drives in my pc when I installed it saw both drives how come now that I installed xubuntu I can find see the scsi drive?
[07:18] <insomniac190> does anyone use sbackup to backup their files?
[07:18] <Punkunity> after extracting by right clicking of course zcat[1] 
[07:18] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, what is he doing exactly?
[07:19] <pirate-king> I got 2 hard drives in my pc when I installed it saw both drives how come now that I installed xubuntu I can"t find see the scsi drive?
[07:19] <Frogzoo> !anyone > insomniac190
[07:19] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  I dunno.. i just know he is on my private network
[07:19] <Frogzoo> pirate-king: one more time with feeling!
[07:19] <zcat[1] > Punkunity: cd ~/Desktop/wherever (I left off ~ last time 'cos you were already there.. now you're not.
[07:19] <m_bison21> i used to print gay porn pictures on a neighbor's printer when he'd get on my wireless network...lmfao
[07:19] <pirate-king> lol
[07:19] <pirate-king> I got 2 hard drives in my pc when I installed it saw both drives how come now that I installed xubuntu I can"t find see the scsi drive?///////////////
[07:19] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  thats why i try to arp cache poison him to find out what hes doing
[07:19] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, is he connecting illegally or messing with your network?
[07:20] <dutch> hey does anyone know why my Feisty install wont recognize my mouse wheel? ZAxisMapping is turned on with options "4 5"...
[07:20] <Punkunity> zcat[1] , cd to the tovid again
[07:20] <insomniac190> i just wanted to know if sbackup worked good for people that use it
[07:20] <zcat[1] > set up squid and filter all the web images through imagemagic, add blur or rotate them slightly...
[07:21] <varka> pirate-king: just try to imaging what would happen if every unanswered question wpuld be spammed to the channel every 10 seconds...
[07:21] <bullgard4> RAOF: Thank you very much. It helped!
[07:21] <pirate-king> yeah yeah sorry
[07:21] <zcat[1] > Punkunity: to the txt2whatever thing you just unpacked...
[07:21] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, does he has permission to be in your private network?
[07:22] <Punkunity> cdoh ok
[07:22] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  just cracking my wpa2 key a few times.. and no he doesnt have premission.. I just got lucky i notced him
[07:22] <bullgard4> zcat[1] : 'apt-cache search hwmon' does not produce an output. --  The answer of RAOF seems to be more appropriate.
[07:22] <zcat[1] > RoAkSoAx: in my opinion... his wap's been broadcasting "here I am, use me!" packets on a shared frequency about 50 times a second..
[07:22] <ubuntu> hey
[07:22] <ubuntu> someone here
[07:22] <ubuntu> i install automatix
[07:23] <ubuntu> is this good program
[07:23] <m_bison21> not really.
[07:23] <Ted_Nancy> Has changed the way it handles PCMCIA cards from Dapper, the solutions I'm finding online all require using programs and changing files that my system doesn't have.
[07:23] <zcat[1] > bullgard4: yeah, I realised that after I said it.. RAOFs answer was better
[07:23] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, what kind of router you using?
[07:23] <ubuntu> m_bison21: ????
[07:23] <Punkunity> bryan@bryan-desktop:~/Desktop/txt2tags-2.4$ ./configure
[07:23] <Punkunity> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[07:23] <Punkunity>   zcat[1] 
[07:23] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  wrt54g
[07:23] <ubuntu> why automatix is not good.
[07:23] <zcat[1] > Punkunity: is there a README.txt ?
[07:23] <Geeerd> how do i enable tv out for ubuntu?
[07:23] <RoAkSoAx> zcat[1] , yes he has and open wifi network
[07:24] <insomniac190> can someone tell me if what i am doing would change my network cards mac address?
[07:24] <Punkunity> yeah i think but it just explains what its all about, should it is a tgz file
[07:24] <jxxxt> ubunru: he said not really
[07:24] <jxxxt> ubuntu: he said not really
[07:24] <m_bison21> i would rather know what is happening .
[07:24] <zcat[1] > RoAkSoAx: otoh just 'cos my wifi is open doesn't mean I owe anyone an unmolested connection to the web :)
[07:24] <ubuntu> jxxt and why he say that
[07:24] <ubuntu> jxxxt: why it is not good
[07:24] <brylie> ubuntu, have you tried Synaptic?
[07:24] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, disable SSID broadcast, change your SSID and change password for a stronger one
[07:24] <ubuntu> it install ctrl+alt+del
[07:24] <Viddy> insomniac190: what are you doing?
[07:24] <hilts50_> Anyone have experience with the Ultimate OSX Pack?
[07:25] <ubuntu> brylie: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-popular-applications-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn-using-automatix2.html
[07:25] <Punkunity> readme file is a bunch of crap zcat[1]  no install info in there
[07:25] <jxxxt> ubuntu: it breaks things and make dist upgrades v difficult
[07:25] <RoAkSoAx> zcat[1] , yeah but still if someone want to mess with an open connection will do it like if he was in your home
[07:25] <ubuntu> brylie: yes but did you see the what they have do
[07:25] <insomniac190> Viddy: I went into /etc/network/interfaces
[07:25] <Ayabara> I'm having trouble using VGA out from my laptop. Anyone know of a guide/tutorial/post that can help? I get an "out of range" message on my tv, so I suspect I have to adjust resolution (and maybe syncsignals)
[07:25] <ubuntu> jxxxt: man why don't you tell before
[07:26] <brylie> ubuntu, what they have do?
[07:26] <insomniac190> Viddy: then I added this line to the bottom of my eth0 section
[07:26] <jxxxt> ubuntu: I only just saw your Q
[07:26] <ubuntu> brylie: nothing
[07:26] <colleycol> Guys, Have a question.  I am trying to get the scroll on my serial mouse working.  Any hints?
[07:26] <ubuntu> jxxxt: ok what can i do,
[07:26] <brylie> ok
[07:26] <zcat[1] > Punkunity: building stuff from sources is usually hard...
[07:26] <varka> ubuntu automatix ignores a lot of programming principles and has no roll back function, if something goes wrong, its pretty hard to fix your system after that
[07:26] <ubuntu> jxxxt: i install gaim 2.06 beta it work
[07:26] <insomniac190> Viddy: hwaddress ether 'mac address"
[07:27] <Viddy> insomniac190: ah, it could
[07:27] <zcat[1] > !automatix
[07:27] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:27] <Viddy> insomniac190: depending on what you put for 'mac address'
[07:27] <ColdBeer> feross u there?
[07:27] <jxxxt> ubuntu: I Honestly do not know what to do.. maybe someone elase can help
[07:27] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  its a random 30 something character alphanumeric pw.. maybe i just disable ssid broadcast change ssid and pw.. then I should be okay right?
[07:27] <Airwulf> hello to you all
[07:27] <ubuntu> varka: and now i need to restore all what i install and delete it .
[07:27] <colleycol> hey
[07:28] <Airwulf> how can I change the umask for plugable devices (usb disk ...) on ubuntu?
[07:28] <m_bison21> so....my terminal won't open in gnome, it just says loading terminal for about 15-20 seconds and then disappears.
[07:28] <Viddy> insomniac190: i think...
[07:28] <m_bison21> anyone have advice on what i need to do to get it working?
[07:28] <Ted_Nancy> If someone can help me with my PCMCIA ethernet card problems please PM me.
[07:28] <insomniac190> Viddy: I put a series of 6 2-digit intervals "01:02:03:04...
[07:28] <Viddy> insomniac190: if you do a ifconfig eth0, does it show that mac address?
[07:28] <m_bison21> i just enabled xinerama...could this be related?
[07:28] <colleycol> anybody have any experience with serial mouse scrolling
[07:28] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, it would be harder for him, but you can also try using IP or MAC filtering. Use the rule where says: only allow the ones on the list, after creating a list of allowed pcs
[07:28] <hilts50_> Getting this error tying to change the usplash artwork......    usplash-artwork.c:1: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '_attribute_' before 'opening'   Any ideas?
[07:29] <Viddy> insomniac190: if not, then it might next time you reboot or if you run /etc/init.d/networking restart as root
[07:29] <zcat[1] > oh well, stuff to do around here..
[07:29] <ssukijth> Hi'
[07:29] <spx2> running without fsck is a bless !!! :)
[07:29] <Punkunity> zcat[1] , there it is tright there in synaptic, but the program i first installed requires the txt2tags and it isnt in synaptic....whatever ty so much man, i'll leave tyou be ....for now..lol
[07:30] <Viddy> insomniac190: i take it you have read the man page for interfaces?
[07:30] <Viddy> insomniac190: ie, man interfaces ?
[07:30] <m_bison21> i've personally come to the conclusion that it is impossible to get a wiresless b card in kubuntu...anyone have experience?
[07:30] <imbecile> RoAkSoAx:  ok will do, dang I wanted to catch him.. i think its my stinky neighbor.. I always see him with laptop and he seems shifty.. i just hope he's not using it for anything nefarious
[07:30] <ColdBeer> feross u there?
[07:30] <insomniac190> Viddy:  not sure what that is
[07:30] <Jack31> is tehre a command to show the sizes of all folders in the current dir?
[07:31] <FunnyLookinHat> m_bison21, depends on the card...  but most cards will work in Ubuntu/Kubuntu just fine if you use the restricted drivers manager
[07:31] <KDan> hello all... trying to install sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-jre from .deb packages (since they've mysteriously disappeared from the repositories), but somehow even though i type "dpkg --install sun-java5*" it complains about dependencies between bin and jre...
[07:31] <Viddy> Jack31: du -sh *
[07:31] <KDan> any ideas?
[07:31] <Jack31> viddy, that doesnt show hidden files like .local etc
[07:31] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, he will probably the one who is doing that, remember that wifi networks have like 100 meters of range
[07:31] <Viddy> Jack31: heh, then its something like du -sh .
[07:32] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, i think it's like 300 feet
[07:32] <godtvisken> What's a program with which I could take a clip out of a large movie I have and add music or something to the background?
[07:32] <RoAkSoAx> imbecile, another thing that you can do is lowering the antennas broadcast power
[07:33] <m_bison21> FunnyLookinHat....my card doesn't seem to need restricted drivers...
[07:33] <FunnyLookinHat> m_bison21, what card do you have?  specific model number?
[07:33] <m_bison21> hmm...
[07:33] <m_bison21> wmp11 i believe..
[07:33] <m_bison21> linksys
[07:34] <Viddy> Jack31: ah, thats a lovely one
[07:34] <Flannel> !away > JaeSharpZZZ
[07:35] <gumjo> Hello, each time I install PCLOS on my system with Ubuntu and XP, it always installs its own grub menu over the existing one which only shows itself as an OS option. How can I keep the Ubuntu one??
[07:35] <FunnyLookinHat> m_bison21, check this out, should help you out...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=156980&postcount=7
[07:35] <Viddy> Jack31: the really ugly way is do: find |xargs du -sh
[07:35] <Viddy> but thats going to give you listings for everything
[07:36] <Jarrod> viddy your name reminds me of a clockwork orange
[07:36] <Viddy> heh
[07:37] <Viddy> Jarrod:  its came from an evening playing quake in the compsci labs at the uni, when i stuffed up and connected with the nick vid_mode :)
[07:37] <Viddy> it kinda stuck
[07:37] <hilts50_> anyone know how to change the usplash in feisty?
[07:38] <m_bison21> ok thanks funnylookinhat..i'll take a look.
[07:40] <Viddy> hilts50_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[07:40] <Viddy> seems to be quite a good starting place
[07:40] <bobstro> hilts50_: which do you want?
[07:40] <hilts50_> Viddy:  thanks.  I'll take a look.
[07:40] <cabin> hello
[07:40] <cabin> just wondering if anyone has time for a question
[07:40] <Flannel> !ask | cabin
[07:40] <hilts50_> Ohh a custom one.  trying to play a hoax on a friend make it look like an apple.
[07:40] <ubotu> cabin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <cabin> I am having troubles getting to my desaktop, there is 2 kernel entries and 2 recovery modes.. how can I set the proper one and delete the others from boot?
[07:41] <hilts50_> trying to follow these directions, but the command line instructions break down at the third step for usplash http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200892
[07:41] <Draco_> morning everyone, can a Xchat user tell me if there is a setting somewhere to exclude file types from DCC ?
[07:42] <Viddy> hilts50_: heh, do you have sudo access?
[07:42] <hilts50_> yes sir
[07:42] <Draco_> I can accept .zip files but not avi mpg etc
[07:42] <cabin> im not sure what i did but i corrupted grub somehow
[07:43] <cabin> if i dont tell it to boot the kernel im on right now it gives an error about out of data or some such
[07:43] <ResPiDeR> hey... is there a correction to "desktop effects"? I keep enabling it and title disappears
[07:44] <jxxxt> cabin: you can edit your grub.conf just delete the ones you do not want be CAREful
[07:44] <Viddy> hilts50_: erm, this assumes that you've got gcc installed
[07:44] <cabin> just edit as root and delete?
[07:44] <hilts50_> Viddy:  GCC?
[07:45] <cabin> i'll have to restart to make sure which one is the good one
[07:45] <Flannel> cabin: It'll boot, by default, the most recent one.
[07:45] <Viddy> sure? i thought it was the top one
[07:45] <jxxxt> cabin: Yes but make sure first ok if you are not sure just comment them # first
[07:45] <Flannel> cabin: you remove te other one by removing the kernel package, with your package manager.  HOWEVER, it's usually a good idea to have 2 kernels (new one, and one old working one), just incase you find a bug
[07:45] <cabin> only one in the list (this one) seems to work
[07:45] <Draco_> any Xchat experts around ?
[07:45] <Flannel> DONT just edit the menu.lst.  jxxxt, cabin
[07:46] <cabin> so whats the best way again ? edit grub.conf?
[07:47] <jxxxt> flannel: What did I say?
[07:47] <ScurveyFrog> I'm trying to get my saa7146 device set up in Linux
[07:47] <jxxxt> cabin: Hang on
[07:47] <ScurveyFrog>  I have already done: modprobe dpc7146
[07:48] <ScurveyFrog> modprobe i2c-core, i2c-dev, videodev
[07:48] <ScurveyFrog> and now the device shows up in lsmod
[07:48] <ScurveyFrog> but I can't get any video through it
[07:48] <Viddy> hilts50_: heh, ah, yeah... the gnu c compiler. I've got to run, but I'd gently suggest that if you're going to pull a prank on your mate, putting the monitor out in the garage would probably be safer than modifying the kernel
[07:48] <ScurveyFrog> what do I need to try next?
[07:48] <Flannel> jxxxt: if you edit your menu.lst, the kernels will just come back the next time you install a new kernel
[07:48] <Flannel> cabin: no.  Remove the packages from your package manager.  But, its best to leave two kernels
[07:49] <ScurveyFrog> It is a Canopus capture card that I want to use as a dvb
[07:49] <jxxxt> flannel: OK sorry
[07:49] <hilts50_> Viddy: thanks for your time.
[07:49] <Viddy> np
[07:49] <cabin> what is the file name for the kernel file to remove?
[07:49] <jxxxt> cabin: I am giving you bad advise sorry
[07:49] <Flannel> cabin: linux-image-[version] -[arch] 
[07:49] <thedonvaughn> cabin: linux-image-2.6.20-blah-blah
[07:50] <cabin> thanks a lot ...doing it
[07:50] <thedonvaughn> Flannel's is more descriptive :)
[07:50] <m_bison21> wow, i hope xinerama didn't fubar my install
[07:50] <ScurveyFrog> can someone help me with my video4linux problem?
[07:50] <Ted_Nancy> I just discovered my sound doesn't work. What gives. All this works on a fresh install of w2k
[07:50] <Ted_Nancy> sigh...
[07:50] <m_bison21> apparently xinerama + nvidia = fubar
[07:50] <RAOF> m_bison21: Yeah pretty much I think.  (No GL acceleration)
[07:51] <m_bison21> no terminal either.
[07:51] <thedonvaughn> Ted_Nancy: what sound card do you have?
[07:51] <m_bison21> no synaptec
[07:52] <Ted_Nancy> thedonvaughn: according to my manual, the ESS1879 sound chip
[07:52] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418360
[07:52] <RAOF> m_bison21: Oh, that bug.  You should be able to either disable composite or add argb-glx-visuals support
[07:53] <m_bison21> well, how would i go about editing xconfig without terminal?
[07:53] <m_bison21> no root access
[07:53] <thedonvaughn> Ted_Nancy: is this a laptop?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96240&highlight=laptop+soundcard
[07:53] <cabin> one kernel is marked blah blah 23  and the other 27
[07:53] <cabin> bison are you in kde?
[07:53] <Ted_Nancy> yes, laptop
[07:53] <ScurveyFrog> Does someone know how to get a device to work with video4linux now that it is recognized in lsmod?
[07:54] <m_bison21> not at the moment.
[07:54] <Ted_Nancy> scurvey: "no such file or directory"
[07:54] <Flannel> m_bison21: no root access?
[07:54] <m_bison21> not on this partition.
[07:54] <ben_> hey-- I'm an idiot- - I deleted /etc/init.d/vmware -- can someone tell me what package that's in?
[07:54] <m_bison21> well....to edit xconfig i need to be a root...i can't edit it without access to terminal
[07:54] <Flannel> ben_: dpkg -S /etc/init.d/vmware
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> ben_, probably vmware-player
[07:54] <ben_> flannel thanks let me try that
[07:54] <RAOF> m_bison21: Boot into recovery mode
[07:54] <m_bison21> nor can i install another terminl wihtout a terminal in the first place.
[07:54] <ben_> FunnyLookinHat: you'd think... but it's not..
[07:55] <Flannel> m_bison21: Why don't you have a terminal?
[07:55] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: when I clicked the link, it took me right to it
[07:55] <thedonvaughn> m_bison21: are you phyiscally at the machine?
[07:55] <m_bison21> xinerama + nvidia = fubar
[07:55] <m_bison21> well
[07:55] <m_bison21> almost fubar
[07:55] <Flannel> !doesntwork | m_bison21
[07:55] <ubotu> m_bison21: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:55] <gumjo> How can I keep ubuntu's GRUB menu from being overridden by another
[07:55] <ben_> Flannel:  it couldn't find it...  it's part of the main ubuntu installation I think....
[07:55] <tbuss> what does xine mean that I should reinstall xinel-lib..
[07:56] <thedonvaughn> gumjo: don't install other bootloaders into the mbr? :)
[07:56] <Flannel> ben_: "main ubuntu installation" is still packages
[07:56] <ben_> Flannel well it says it's not found...  it's a missing file-- I need to replace it.. I have no idea wher eit might be..
[07:56] <Flannel> ben_: it's vmware-player, right?
[07:57] <gumjo> the problem is I want to install another distro (PCLOS), and it always installs its own grub loader onto the existing ubuntu one, and it doesnt show any option for other OS like ubuntu and XP
[07:57] <ScurveyFrog> can anyone help me get my capture card working?
[07:57] <Flannel> ben_: /etc/init.d/vmware-player?
[07:57] <mark_> why does my mouse arrow turn black after the screensaver has been on
[07:57] <m_bison21> oh yeah i can install another terminal from the recovery boot .
[07:57] <RoAkSoAx> gumjo, install the new distro, and after that boot with an ubuntu live cd and reinstall GRUB
[07:57] <Flannel> m_bison21: How does nvidia drivers affect your ability to have a terminal?
[07:57] <asimismo> I'm installing ZoneMinder. I've got an error and Google says the solution is to increase Shared Memory. I try echo 134217728 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmall as suggested and get Permission Denied. Any idea what to try next?
[07:57] <Ted_Nancy> scurvy: sorry, I meant when I tried to follow the instructions on the page linked to by you.
[07:57] <m_bison21> flannel, its a bug
[07:57] <kaner_> how would one go about dual booting pclinuxos and ubuntu? i can boot the ubuntu but it wants to use the pclinuxos kernel..
[07:58] <ben_> Flannel: yeah I installed it then tried installing vmware-server (which isn't working) but to get vmware-server installed I deleted /etc/init.d/vmware and a couple of files like S20vmware-player   == but it turns out that re-installing vmware-player doesn't install those files...  i think they load vmmon and other kernel modules and I have no idea how to re-install those...
[07:58] <bimberi> asimismo: try 'sudo echo ...'
[07:58] <Flannel> m_bison21: moreso, how do you expect to install more terminals from a non-terminal single user mode?
[07:58] <m_bison21> the bug being nvidia drivers and xinerama = synatpetc broken, and terminal broken
[07:58] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: oh, it's fine if you don't have the file. Just follow the rest of the instructions
[07:58] <Flannel> ben_: You need to remove/purge the package, then reinstall it
[07:58] <Flannel> ben_: in synaptic its "complete removal" in apt it's with --purge
[07:58] <ben_> Flannel: I did that...  I didn't purge.. just removed then installed and those files didn't reappear....
[07:59] <ben_> Flannel I coulda sworn I did that.. but I can try it again....
[07:59] <Flannel> ben_: right.  Just "remove" wont do anything about config, just binaries.
[07:59] <asimismo> bimberi: Sorry--should have said I run it under 'sudo' with the same error
[07:59] <gumjo> RoAkSoAx, how do I do that? I've install Ubuntu numerous times, I've never seen an option for that
[07:59] <m_bison21> i expect to install another terminal using apt-get from the recovery screen...i tihnk its just gnome thats broken
[07:59] <Flannel> !grub | gumjo, first link
[07:59] <ubotu> gumjo, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:59] <bimberi> asimismo: ah yes.  do a 'sudo -i' to get a root shell and run the echo... from there.
[07:59] <Flannel> m_bison21: if it's just gnome that's broken, you can get to a terminal.  ctrl-alt-f1
[07:59] <ben_> Flannel: I'm trying remove --purge again....
[07:59] <gumjo> !grub
[08:00] <asimismo> bimberi: Is the -i on the whole command string or a separate command?
[08:00] <Flannel> asimismo: the -i is an option to sudo.  You don't run it with a command, just `sudo -i` and thatll drop you into a root shell
[08:00] <RoAkSoAx> gumjo, go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[08:00] <bimberi> asimismo: as a separate command  - 'sudo -i'
[08:01] <asimismo> bimberi: Gotcha. Great--worked! How do I know the value I got from Google is a good one?
[08:01] <Ted_Nancy> asoundconf list returns no cards.
[08:02] <dedicated> hi! if I install apache will it be automaticaly in autostart at boot ?
[08:02] <l3ored> hi
[08:02] <Flannel> dedicated: yep
[08:02] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: okay, read further, there is someone else in that thread who had the same problem, and someone else refers him to another thread that explains what to do
[08:02] <l3ored> are you guys ubuntu developers?
[08:02] <dedicated> Flannel and same with other appz, like mysql ? or postfix ?
[08:02] <Ted_Nancy> Scury: ok.
[08:02] <gumjo> thanks a lot!
[08:02] <bimberi> asimismo: that I cant really answer.  You might be able to find information on what values for that kernel parameter are considered sane.
[08:02] <Geeerd> I cant find any text in the context menu of xmms
[08:02] <RoAkSoAx> dedicated, yes
[08:02] <dedicated> thanks
[08:02] <Geeerd> what should i do to fix it
[08:02] <Flannel> dedicated: almost all do start at boot by default.  Some don't though.  but theyre rare.
[08:03] <joedaddymac> SOMEBODY HELP ME! PLEASE!
[08:03] <bimberi> asimismo: but if it works and doesn't crash your system it's probably good ;)
[08:03] <Flannel> !anyone | joedaddymac
[08:03] <ubotu> joedaddymac: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:03] <tikka> Hi all. Apache2, UserDir public_html.. not working ideas?
[08:03] <asimismo> Flannel: Missed your comment above--thanks for the help!
[08:04] <joedaddymac>  how do I create a home network on ubuntu?
[08:04] <Flannel> tikka: /home/username and also /home/uesrname/public_html need to be readable by www-data
[08:04] <joedaddymac> !anyone
[08:04] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:04] <asimismo> bimberi: Thanks! I'll poke around some more. Still getting an error in the logs (and no video), but this seemed like a correct step.
[08:04] <Geeerd> I cant find any text in the context menu of xmms , what should i do to get it back
[08:04] <overboard> 'ola
[08:04] <ScurveyFrog> my system has loaded the drivers for my capture card, but I still can't get video through it. does anyone know what to do about this?
[08:04] <bimberi> asimismo: np, good luck :)
[08:04] <nito> hi
[08:05] <tikka> Flannel, ahh, thank you :D
[08:05] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: what do you want to do with the network?
[08:05] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: file-sharing? games?
[08:05] <leotr> hi all. I am trying to install HP LJ1018 printer, seems like it has been installed (i manuallyt specified bus and device number in "hp-setup") when i give a command to print test page, it is queued, but no pages are printed
[08:05] <joedaddymac> I want to connect my xbox and ubuntu box together so that I can ftp to the xbox.
[08:06] <the_hammer> !offtopic
[08:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:06] <ejupin> Help, I can't get kde going only gnome.. anyone help?
[08:06] <Ted_Nancy> scurvey: lspci -v returns a bunch of stuff, how do I know if my audio card is listed... there's nothing that says audio. My manual says that it is an ESS1879 sound chip, but I don't see those words either.
[08:06] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: I don't have an xbox, do they belong to a workgroup like a windows computer?
[08:07] <joedaddymac> I just want to share the internet between them.
[08:07] <joedaddymac> I have a modded xbox
[08:07] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: try: lspci | grep ess
[08:07] <HKJGN__> joedaddymac: i cant stand those
[08:07] <joedaddymac> what?
[08:07] <noiesmo> Ted_Nancy: it might be listed as MultiMedia
[08:07] <dubar> gmosley
[08:07] <HKJGN__> joedaddymac: modded Xboxs
[08:07] <HKJGN__> XD
[08:07] <joedaddymac> why?
[08:08] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: are they hooked up to the same router/switch?
[08:08] <HKJGN__> i unno, i figure i paid for a Game Console, not another Computer
[08:08] <insomniac190> is it possible to change my computers mac address or only my network cards mac address
[08:08] <mirra> can someone help me with a mysql question (#mysql is dead)
[08:08] <joedaddymac> Im trying to connect them together using a crossover cable.
[08:08] <joedaddymac> I dont have a router.
[08:09] <noiesmo> !ask | mirra
[08:09] <ubotu> mirra: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:09] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: do you know the IP address of the XBOX?
[08:09] <mirra> here goes
[08:09] <joedaddymac> yup
[08:09] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: can you ping it from your computer?
[08:09] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: youre trying to connect your xbox to your computer with crossover cable?
[08:09] <mirra> is there a way to setup replication using a single instance of mysql? basically have two db's - one of them just replicating the other?
[08:09] <tikka> Flannel, do you happen to know of the best way to set the permissions? I am really lost
[08:09] <mirra> if not..can someone help me install two instances of mysql on ubuntu??
[08:10] <noiesmo> mirra: you could use rsync for that on a cron job
[08:10] <rredd4> how do I do this? > You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library.
[08:10] <joedaddymac> yeah
[08:10] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey: "lspci | grep ess" returns nothing. Sound works fine in W2K so I doubt it's a bios issue. Should I just continue on with the instructions?
[08:10] <mirra> noiesmo, can't..its an active db and the tables cannot be locked on the main one
[08:10] <joedaddymac> yes to both questions
[08:10] <HKJGN__> joedaddymac: not to sound stupid, but you're sure its a crossover right? and not just a standard Ethernet cable
[08:10] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: yeah, I would give it a shot
[08:10] <joedaddymac> yeah Im sure, I spliced it myself. : )
[08:11] <joedaddymac> converted a regular to a crossover
[08:11] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: try: lspci
[08:11] <HKJGN__> joedaddymac: a little more insulting question... are you sure you did it right? :x
[08:11] <HKJGN__> lol
[08:11] <joedaddymac> ha ha ha
[08:11] <mirra> noiesmo, can you help with either of those issues?
[08:11] <joedaddymac> yes im sure
[08:11] <HKJGN__> ok
[08:11] <noiesmo> mirra: I once had co that had server in usa and the database was rsync'd with a local one every 15 minutes
[08:11] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: this will be a simplified version of the other list, maybe easier to spot your device
[08:11] <HKJGN__> we'll, that covers the hardware
[08:11] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: i was having problems when i was getting mine set up.  Are you trying to stream vids and stuff with xbmc?
[08:11] <Ted_Nancy> noiesmo: yeah, nothing like that either. Just: Hostbridge, PCI bridge, Cardbus Bridge (x2), ISA bridge, IDE interface, USB Controller, VGA compat controller
[08:12] <mirra> noiesmo, i was told that unless the tables are locked..any method like that won't ensure a reliable backup
[08:12] <joedaddymac> yeah Im trying to send roms to my emu's
[08:12] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: have you tried to ftp to that IP address?
[08:12] <joedaddymac> I dont know how on ubuntu...
[08:12] <insomniac190> joedaddymac:  is it showing up that it is not connected?
[08:12] <meee> joedaddymac: yeah, don't you usually use FTP to access xbox normally?
[08:12] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: does an xbox definitely accept ftp connections?
[08:13] <HKJGN__> >.>
[08:13] <noiesmo> mirra: not sure about the lock'd bit sorry.
[08:13] <mirra> noiesmo, can you help with either issue
[08:13] <joedaddymac> it says that it refuses the connection
[08:13] <mirra> noiesmo, can replication be done with only one mysql instance?
[08:13] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey: Yeah, looking at lspci now... Hostbridge, PCI bridge, Cardbus Bridge (x2), ISA bridge, IDE interface, USB Controller, VGA compat controller
[08:13] <Ted_Nancy> Gonna try moving on and seeing what happens
[08:13] <joedaddymac> I think Im nust not doing it right.
[08:13] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: use gftp
[08:14] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: you'll probably have to install it
[08:14] <joedaddymac> I installed it a little while ago but I have no idea how to use it.
[08:14] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: try: man gftp
[08:15] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: what dont you understand?
[08:15] <joedaddymac> in terminal right?
[08:15] <joedaddymac> how to set it up
[08:16] <noiesmo> mirra: sorry not sure I know we use to just rsync between two boxes then when the usa on broke we just copied the most recent sync back to usa and off we went again
[08:16] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: on your modded xbox dashboard it displays the ip address right?
[08:16] <mirra> for an active web site/
[08:16] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: sudo apt-get install gftp
[08:16] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey: Well, I can't find my hardware, and when I try to modprobe snd-ess18xx I get a not found error. Pressing tab doesn't show me a list of modules like it should.
[08:16] <joedaddymac> yeah, I put it in gftp but it says that it refuses the connecton
[08:17] <joedaddymac> I put the username and pass but no luck.
[08:17] <insomniac190> sounds like its not connected
[08:17] <joedaddymac> yeah
[08:17] <joedaddymac> I know
[08:17] <rredd4> using fiesta, how do I do this? > You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library.  I tried sudo apt-get install gtkpod && sudo apt-get install libmp4v2-0.  When I open a m4a file It doesn't work
[08:17] <joedaddymac> It's not finding the xbox
[08:17] <meee> joedaddymac: and you're absolutely sure that the ftp server is turned on on the xbox?
[08:17] <joedaddymac> yeah
[08:17] <joedaddymac> it is
[08:18] <joedaddymac> everything is as it should be
[08:18] <joedaddymac> its just not connecting
[08:18] <RC-Needs-Help> can anyone tell me where I can get a driver for Atheros AR5005G? Please
[08:18] <insomniac190> when i set mine up, i had to mess around with the wired connection in system>preferences>network
[08:18] <noiesmo> mirra: yes active web site with online store the sysnc was set to run every 3 minutes from usa to local back up so there would be possible 3 minutes loss of info hope that helps
[08:19] <Jack31>  how do i run a .py python file?
[08:19] <v3n0m`> I need help getting my tv tuner to work..I can find the tuner in device manager
[08:19] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_
[08:19] <mirra> no..thanks though
[08:19] <mirra> the data needs to be locked
[08:19] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: have you looked at this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88322
[08:19] <mirra> with that method
[08:19] <tikka> anyone know how to setup public_html ?
[08:20] <Frogzoo> Jack31: python blah.py
[08:20] <joedaddymac> aarrgghh... this is so frustrating.
[08:20] <joedaddymac> I installed flashfxp with wine
[08:20] <Jack31> thanks frogzoo
[08:20] <ubuntubeginz> hi...i downloaded GoogleEarthLinux.bin... how do i run this thing in ubuntu..
[08:20] <joedaddymac> it says it connects but then freezes
[08:20] <v3n0m`> lol nice
[08:20] <Flannel> tikka: your homedir should be 755 as should your public_html
[08:21] <pleb2> !wmv
[08:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: try going into system<preferences>network  and click the box next to wired connections
[08:21] <kitsuneofdoom> My process list looks like Shawn of the Dead. I have a bit of a zombie process problem, and init is using large tracts of cycles. It's 2:30 AM and I'm refrencing things like crazy. Any ideas?
[08:21] <insomniac190> so it has a check next to it
[08:21] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: Google Earth is available in the Medibuntu repository
[08:21] <dustin> what are the minimum requirements to run ubuntu 6.06 lts I have a pentium three box with like 256mb of pc100 ram and it loads so slow on the live cd
[08:21] <pleb2> !rmv
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: take a look at this: http://support.real-time.com/linux/web/gftp.html#upload
[08:21] <pleb2> !.rm
[08:21] <Flannel> dustin: that'll work fine.  LiveCDs are... well, liveCDs
[08:21] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:21] <pleb2> !rm
[08:21] <joedaddymac> I dont have a network option in there.
[08:22] <noiesmo> mirra: np :) don't know if this helps http://www.howtoforge.org/mysql_database_replication
[08:22] <Frogzoo> kitsuneofdoom: unless you're creating zombies yourself, it's likely someone hammering your network, maybe web
[08:22] <joedaddymac> oh wait....
[08:22] <joedaddymac> my bad
[08:22] <pleb2> !rm
[08:22] <joedaddymac> lol
[08:22] <joedaddymac> one sec
[08:22] <ubuntubeginz> Flannel: any idea on how to run this *.bin file
[08:22] <dustin> it froze up on me
[08:22] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: don't.  Just use the one from the repository
[08:22] <Frogzoo> !enter | joedaddymac
[08:22] <ubotu> joedaddymac: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:22] <v3n0m`> I need help getting my tv tuner to work..I can find the tuner in device manager, but that's it so far, i'm not finding anything too useful on the forums > this is my tuner http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167956&highlight=tv+tuner+feisty
[08:22] <pleb2> !ram | pleb2
[08:22] <RC-Needs-Help> Does an Atheros AR5005G work in Ubuntu ???
[08:22] <kitsuneofdoom> Frogzoo: that would be odd. Oh well, I suppose that explains why it's mostly sshd. The only port that goes through the firewall
[08:23] <pleb2> !realplayer
[08:23] <insomniac190> ubuntubeginz: try this method, its easier
[08:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:23] <joedaddymac> o.k. im there
[08:23] <insomniac190> ubuntubeginz: http://www.internetschoon.nl/viewSingleItem/229/Installing-Google-Earth-on-Ubuntu.htm
[08:23] <ubuntubeginz> Flanel: so do i type...sudo apt get install GoogleEarth
[08:23] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey... chekcing it out now, then off to bed. Thanks for your help and time.
[08:23] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: first youll have to add a repository, but yeah.
[08:23] <blackjackel> hey DBO , you there?
[08:23] <Flannel> !medibuntu | ubuntubeginz
[08:23] <ubotu> ubuntubeginz: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:24] <ubuntubeginz> insomniac190: k.. i will try it oso...
[08:24] <dustin> no you have to add to your source list first
[08:24] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: no problem, sorry I don't know the answer, I'm just sharing what I do know
[08:24] <Flannel> insomniac190, ubuntubeginz, don't use that.  Get the deb.  Either download the deb individually or add the repos
[08:24] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey: I'm farther along then I was. Best,
[08:25] <Flannel> installing from source (effectively what a bin does) leaves crap all over
[08:25] <Flannel> well, not from source.  but the end result is the same.
[08:25] <kitsuneofdoom> Frogzoo: Ok, my firewall isn't allowing port 22 anymore. Should the zombies start dissapearing>
[08:25] <ubuntubeginz> Flanel: ok..will folow ur method then...
[08:25] <tikka> Flannel, I have now set home a public_html to drwxr-xr-x and went to localhost/~tikka/
[08:25] <tikka> Flannel,  unfortunatelly still not working
[08:25] <insomniac190> Flannel: what do you mean?
[08:25] <Flannel> tikka: what error do you get?
[08:26] <tikka> Flannel, 404
[08:26] <Flannel> tikka: and both /home/tikka and /home/tikka/public_html are 755?
[08:27] <Flannel> insomniac190: bin files (like installing from source) just throw files all over.  There's no way to cleanly remove it later, or upgrade cleanly, etc.  Package management gives you an easy way to cleanly remove everything you've added
[08:27] <tikka> Flannel, yep
[08:28] <insomniac190> Flannel: will keep that in mind
[08:28] <damian> hi what is the command to install all development packages?
[08:28] <crdlb> damian: all?
[08:28] <damian> dpkg install dev?
[08:29] <Flannel> tikka: go to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled, are userdir.conf and userdir.load there?
[08:29] <crdlb> damian: you can install all need to build a certain package with: sudo apt-get build-dep package
[08:29] <crdlb> needed*
[08:29] <Flannel> tikka: hmm.  Try restarting apache, just... to make sure.  `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart`
[08:29] <damian> i know there is a quick way to set up basic development packages i just forgot
[08:30] <varka> damian: do you mean build-essential perhaps?
[08:30] <Flannel> damian: the build-essential package
[08:30] <damian> yeah
[08:30] <damian> thanks
[08:30] <insomniac190> is there anyway to change the mac address of my computer itself?
[08:30] <kitsuneofdoom> ok, these zombies are not dissapearing
[08:31] <tikka> Flannel, thank you.. I didn't have the symlinks, now added working perfect. Thank you for your help :D
[08:32] <Bibagi> I want setup pppoe in ubuntu... how can i do that ?
[08:33] <Fivetwentysix> Bibagi: type "sudo pppoeconf" in terminal
[08:35] <CaptainApathy> ok... The system that we installed Feisty on has two network cards... the first one is active, however the second one was not set as active.... How can we fix that?
[08:35] <oldude67> hey where can i find some wallpapers?
[08:35] <mboman> oldude67: what type of wallpapers?
[08:35] <Madpilot> oldude67, gnome-look.org, among other places
[08:35] <oldude67> desktop back grounds
[08:35] <ScurveyFrog> oldude67: www.interfacelift.com
[08:35] <kitsuneofdoom> My zombies are not being reaped.
[08:36] <ScurveyFrog> oldude67: kde-look.org
[08:36] <GenNMX> kitsuneofdoom: I had that problem until I switched to 'Old Spice'.
[08:36] <nafis_devlpr> does anyone knows how to rescue grub after windows being re-installed
[08:36] <Flannel> !grub | nafis_devlpr
[08:36] <mboman> oldude67: I found some nice ones at http://www.desktopography.net/
[08:36] <ubotu> nafis_devlpr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:36] <jabbar> question about gaim
[08:36] <Madpilot> kitsuneofdoom, your what?
[08:36] <nafis_devlpr> i have tried the ways of ubuntu.com
[08:36] <crabgrass> so... how do i openbox? i logged in with an openbox session... and there's nothing here
[08:36] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: That first link there.
[08:36] <nafis_devlpr> but it didn't work
[08:36] <oldude67> thanks people
[08:36] <jabbar> how do you hide your username when logigng into IRC
[08:37] <jabbar> in gaim
[08:37] <Bibagi> Fivetwentysix i did.. and i saw a instruction too.. also i did put info in the box.. but how to dail that connection ?
[08:37] <CaptainApathy> ok... The system that we installed Feisty on has two network cards... the first one is active, however the second one was not set as active.... How can we fix that?
[08:37] <homanj> jabbar: might be a quicker answer in #pidgin
[08:37] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: yep
[08:37] <jabbar> kool
[08:37] <CaptainApathy> sorry if someone already answered that, I lost my connection
[08:37] <crabgrass> !openbox
[08:37] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[08:37] <kitsuneofdoom> I have a bunch of zombie processes, mostly sshd and sendmail-mta. Most of these were created yesterday
[08:37] <dustin> I just downloaded the new debian etch and was wanting to know if any of you have ran it is it ANY GOOD
[08:37] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  is what you need.  if youre having furhter problems, youll have to tell us
[08:37] <Bibagi> Fivetwentysix what i did in windows is... i enable the lan card.. then i dail the connection that i have created .. :S what to do in ubuntu
[08:38] <Flannel> dustin: #debian is what you want
[08:38] <dustin> ?
[08:38] <crabgrass> okay, better question: what's the difference between a window manager and ... a ... desktop manager? i'm not sure what all my options are
[08:38] <dustin> yeah i am running it because it is what my box can handle at this point in time
[08:38] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: I have done exactly what the link told me to, but it didn't work at all
[08:39] <Madpilot> dustin, this is #ubuntu, not #debian...
[08:39] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: You'll need to be more specific than "didnt work"
[08:39] <Fivetwentysix> Bibagi i'm not sure i understand your question? You're using a LAN card?
[08:39] <GenNMX> dustin: First, God made Debian. And there was much rejoicing. Then God made Ubuntu from one of Debian's ribs. And there was much rejoicing. Sadly, the two, while similiar, do not really know what each other are thinking.
[08:39] <RAOF> crabgrass: A window manager manages your windows (titlebars, allows you to move, minimize, etc).  A desktop manager manages your desktop (icons, background, etc)
[08:39] <dustin> it was just casual conversation i appologize
[08:39] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: well it suppose to show the grub loader menu, but it didn't, just boot the windows
[08:39] <Flannel> dustin: ah.  That's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for
[08:40] <crabgrass> RAOF: alright, i see... so a window manager is between you and X, yes?
[08:40] <Fivetwentysix> Bibagi if you configure your pppoe connection it's automatically connected, you need to do nothing further.
[08:40] <Bibagi> Fivetwentysix : yes :S i need to enable the lan card.. then i need to dail to connect.. there is a cable connected to my lan card which came from media converter... UTP cable ..
[08:40] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: Sounds like you didn't successfully reinstall grub.  Did it give you any errors while you were trying to?
[08:40] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: nope, not at all
[08:40] <dhorner> how do I do multi-monitor in ubuntu?
[08:41] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: How are your partitions setup?
[08:41] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: like what??
[08:41] <dhorner> I've installed the ati binary drivers
[08:41] <dhorner> but I don't see any way of setting up the multi-monitors
[08:41] <chuck____> I need help enabling WPA on feisty so I can connect to my wireless router... any tips on how to do this with relative ease?  I'd like to enable WPA for roaming mode as well, not just set the wireless NIC to automatically connect to my router and authenticate
[08:41] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: We need to know where Ubuntu is (partition wise) and where Windows is and stuff.  Which harddrives have which, stuff like that
[08:42] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: windows is on a primary partition while ubuntu is on a logical one
[08:43] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: Alright, this is all on hda then I imagine (primary master).  So, which route did you take while reinstalling grub?
[08:43] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: tried to boot with the Live CD
[08:43] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: exactly what ubuntu has stated
[08:44] <UberDuper> What's the ubuntu SDL package?
[08:44] <Fivetwentysix> Is there any good multiplayer games that run on ubuntu?
[08:44] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: There's a few different things you couldve done with still "following" that page.  Which one did you do?  And where did you install grub?
[08:45] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel : typed find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:45] <quarkpup> Fivetwentysix: what flavor? www.happypenguin.org
[08:45] <AlienX> what's the command to set vim as my default editor?
[08:45] <AlienX> it's escaping me at 3am :(
[08:45] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel : which gave me the partition to re-install grub
[08:45] <njero> okay, I am doing something stupid but I don't know what. I am trying to sudo apt-get install mysql-server but the package cannot be found... I have included universe in my sources.list... I have run apt-get clean and apt-get update... is there something I am missing?
[08:46] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: no.  That's not what you want.  You want the next group, the "Overwriting windows bootloader" one.
[08:46] <RAOF> crabgrass: Not really.  X just displays stuff.  The window manager is one of the things that uses X to display stuff (ie: the window borders) but even then it generally uses an underlying library (like GTK)
[08:46] <kitsuneofdoom> I have lots of zombie processes that have a PPID of 1 and don't seem to be dying.
[08:47] <quarkpup> UberDuper: I'm not very familiar with SDL but there's a libSDL series of packages if you search synaptic
[08:47] <ubuntubeginz> Flanel: i followed the instructions and installed GoogleEarht.... then after installing, i went to Applications->Internet->Google Earth...and my comp crash... anyway to debug this...
[08:47] <quarkpup> UberDuper: scroll down a few dozen after searching for sdl
[08:47] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel : ??
[08:47] <enigma_> sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0?
[08:47] <kayde> hi, I REALLY need help to fix my ipod, HOW do I format it? what is the EASIEST way for me to do it? !!Im a complete noob to Linux!!
[08:47] <Draco_> are the repositories broken atm ? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.89.8 80] 
[08:47] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel :  got that
[08:48] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: You followed (from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows) the "Using the Desktop/LiveCD while preserving Windows Bootloader" instructions, you don't want that.  You want to follow: "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader"
[08:48] <njero> enigma_, please shoot me...
[08:48] <enigma_> its early in the mornin'
[08:48] <chuck____> I need help enabling WPA on feisty so I can connect to my wireless router... any tips on how to do this with relative ease?  I'd like to enable WPA for roaming mode as well, not just set the wireless NIC to automatically connect to my router and authenticate
[08:48] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel : thanks :)
[08:48] <enigma_> peace
[08:48] <njero> enigma_, thanks :)
[08:48] <enigma_> welcome
[08:48] <bloodMuffin> when i installed beryl it has the option of using compiz instead, and now i want to use compiz, but where can i change the options for compiz?
[08:49] <njero> enigma_, I am not sure why it didn't turn up in apt-cache search... odd
[08:49] <Draco_> anyone know if theres a problem with repositories ?
[08:49] <ubuntubeginz> hi guys, when i run Google Eath from the Applications->Internet->Google Earth, anyone else has tried installing Google Earth in Ubuntu...thanks
[08:49] <quarkpup> Draco_:  trying to refresh synaptic's list failed for me as well
[08:49] <vamp1r3> hey what is the nautilus window ?
[08:50] <Draco_> thanks quarkpup  :(
[08:50] <ubuntubeginz> vamp1r3: it is like windows explorer ..
[08:50] <kayde> hi, I REALLY need help to fix my ipod, HOW do I format it? what is the EASIEST way for me to do it? !!I'm a complete noob to Linux!!
[08:50] <Draco_> Linux makes ipods ??
[08:50] <vamp1r3> ubuntubeginz, okay thanks
[08:51] <kitsuneofdoom> kayde: did you install iPod-linux?
[08:51] <njero> kayde: easiest way is install itunes on windows... or a mac... then resync it. Then use gtkpod or songbird from within linux, but don't format in linux
[08:51] <kayde> Draco nope, but windows wont detect it, so im using linux
[08:51] <Ademan> !xen
[08:51] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[08:51] <ben_> hey does anyone have a version of vmware tools that will run in windows xp?  I can't get networking to work :(
[08:51] <ben_> and only running vmware-player
[08:51] <kayde> njero: erm.. windows wont detect it, thats why im using linux
[08:52] <kayde> kitsuneofdoom: yes, it screwd my ipod, thats why i need to reformat it
[08:54] <jessmon> Hello. I just got the latest dist. upgrade on feisty, but now, when i open terminal I'm thrown back to the login screen?? Any help appreciated...
[08:54] <bloodMuffin> where can i see the options for compiz?
[08:54] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, I have a bunch of zombie processes that won't dissapear. They are mostly sshd and sendmail-mta. What should I do to get rid of them?
[08:54] <jessmon> bloodmuffin:tried beryl-manager?
[08:54] <kayde> HOW do I format a removable drive on linux!!??
[08:55] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, wait, they will be reaped by init provided the parent process eventually dies
[08:55] <jessmon> bloodmuffin:tried beryl-manager?
[08:55] <bloodMuffin> jessmon: do those options carry over to when i use compiz?
[08:55] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: they've been around a while, some are from yesterday
[08:55] <ben_> anyone here have vmware tools for windows?  I can't install it with vmware player!
[08:55] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, parents PID?
[08:55] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: also, their PPID is listed as 1
[08:56] <v3n0m`> help tv tuner nonworking
[08:57] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, the zombies should be reaped eventually by init... if they are not you cant really kill them since they are not really processes.  Rebooting would of course get rid of them...
[08:57] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: someone also said it might indicate someone is hammering my computer
[08:57] <Fivetwentysix> Any sites that run on Ubuntu that have games like Chess, Spades, etc and are really popular?
[08:58] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: which means that probably someone was trying to burteforce SSH?
[08:58] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, move ssh off port 22 if you are worried about that
[08:59] <xt{c}> Fivetwentysix, try yahoo
[08:59] <kayde> r5u
[08:59] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, that cuts down dramatically on bot attacks
[08:59] <kayde> njero: so how do i format it in linux?
[08:59] <robokop> can sb help me with the crosshurd package to install freebsd
[09:00] <bloodMuffin> jessmon: do those options carry over to when i use compiz?
[09:00] <Fivetwentysix> Hmm just realised i needa install flash
[09:00] <njero> kayde: I am not sure... formatting wasn't the problem iirc if you do really bad things like install a bad ipod-linux you may have bricked your ipod... sites I have read said that windows+itunes or a mac should be able to recover it
[09:00] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: the problem is, I'm not sure if my school will firewall other ports or not. Since I'm no longer at school, I'm just closing it off outside my home subnet.
[09:01] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, you could also disable password logins
[09:01] <njero> kayde, the good news is I did that to my ipod and was eventually able to revive it... but windows+itunes was able to see it (following the step by step reset instructions that came with the ipod)
[09:01] <LightPwnyTesting> anyone here use xchat-gnome?
[09:01] <mdious> DBO:  sorry to interrupt...what cuts down dramtically on bot attacks?
[09:01] <ben_> does anyon ehere have vmware-tools for XP?  I cna't install it w/vmware-player!
[09:01] <Fivetwentysix> Whish is better, Gnash or Swfdec?
[09:02] <DBO> mdious, moving ssh off port 22 will cut down on brute force bot attacks (provided they are just scanning around)
[09:02] <DBO> mdious, obviously not a final answer but it does cut down on simple load issues
[09:02] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: I still maintain, anyone hacking into my computer will be seriously dissapointed.
[09:03] <LightPwnyTesting> haha, same here
[09:03] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, no good dirt eh?  oh well.  Again, moving away from password authentication to public keys will most likely mitigate the issue as well
[09:03] <mdious> DBO:  ah gotcha ;)
[09:03] <eddmul> Hallo everyone,
[09:04] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: ooh. How would I do that?
[09:04] <LightPwnyTesting> so any good recommendations for an irc client on gnome other than xchat?
[09:04] <XMR2F77> good morning, i went from xubuntu to  gnome manually, now i can log in to gnome but i only get a black brown screen, i think i forgot to remove or add something, anybody a clue?
[09:04] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, lemme see if I can get you a walkthrough
[09:04] <chico``_> LightPwnyTesting: BitchX
[09:04] <doseryder> Can someone help me out with VMWare? I just got VMWare Player through Automatix but apparently I'm asked to load a VMX (i think) file.  Keep my question simple, how do I load WinXP in there? I should have to do with the VMX file that i'm supposed to load I assume
[09:04] <eddmul> I have a question, is it possible to upgrade Eidgy to Feisty by CD ? How ?
[09:04] <pavs> lightpawnytesting:bitchx
[09:05] <LightPwnyTesting> isnt that terminal based chico``_?
[09:05] <DBO> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30709.html  <--- kitsuneofdoom
[09:05] <kitsuneofdoom> eddmul: yeah. THe alt-cd
[09:05] <doseryder> Thx in advance boyz
[09:05] <mdious> PasswordAuthentication no in /etc/ssh/ssh_config ?
[09:05] <chico``_> LightPwnyTesting: Yes
[09:05] <RAOF> !automatix | doseryder
[09:05] <LightPwnyTesting> ... and pavs
[09:05] <pavs> yup
[09:05] <ubotu> doseryder: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:05] <kitsuneofdoom> eddmul: it's listed on the site.
[09:05] <LightPwnyTesting> hrm
[09:05] <CheshireViking> !upgrade | eddmul
[09:05] <ubotu> eddmul: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:06] <njero> !WorksFoMe
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worksfome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <njero> !WorksForMe
[09:06] <Wooombat> Hello guys! How do I save a boot log on startup in case the GUI is not usable?
[09:06] <eddmul> kitsuneoofdoom, could you describe it in details? Thank you
[09:07] <LightPwnyTesting> whats so great about bitchx?
[09:07] <ubuntubeginz> !GoogleEarth
[09:07] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[09:07] <doseryder> RAOF: in my case do i need to reinstall? Also, can you gimme the gist of how I should go about loading WInXP in VMWare?
[09:07] <l3ored> how do i use my windows dlls for wine?
[09:07] <pavs> --[ BitchX-Client-Statistics ] ------------------------------------------
[09:07] <pavs> | Client Version: BitchX-1.1-final 20040326
[09:07] <pavs> | Client Running Since Tue Apr 17 04:55:22 2007
[09:07] <pavs> | Client Uptime: 34d 22h 11m 11s
[09:08] <DBO> LightPwnyTesting, its the only way to swear in this room without people getting mad... pavs, please dont do that again
[09:08] <kayde> njero: I need to make the ipod VISIBLE to windows, it isnt...
[09:08] <pavs> lol
[09:08] <pavs> sorry
[09:08] <chuck____> can a user belong to multiple groups?
[09:08] <mdious> Woombat:  you could do a dmesg > bootup.txt ?
[09:08] <DBO> chuck____, yep
[09:08] <LightPwnyTesting> chuck____: i dont think so
[09:08] <LightPwnyTesting> oh you can?
[09:08] <RAOF> doseryder: Your milage may vary, but automatix tends to break systems.  Just be aware, particularly when you upgrade.
[09:08] <LightPwnyTesting> or do you mean in unix?
[09:08] <LightPwnyTesting> i was thinking with irc servers =P
[09:08] <DBO> chuck____, see the /etc/group file =)
[09:09] <baudthief> I bought a new Samsung SCX-5530FN multifunction printer today, I was told it works well on linux - I inserted the disc, browsed to the Linux directory, and ran ./install.sh from a root prompt, but i get this error: ./install.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[09:09] <Wooombat> mdious - where i supposed to do this?
[09:09] <LightPwnyTesting> dont listen to me, i R stupid
[09:09] <baudthief> any ideas please?
[09:09] <PurpZeY> l3ored: I believe with wine the best way to go about things is to drop the install into wine, or call wine using the location of the install file, then it will install like windows...
[09:09] <PurpZeY> l3ored: That is just my understanding.
[09:09] <Wooombat> mdious - in BusyBox?
[09:09] <eddmul> ok, thank you everyone for helping me, i'll return if i found any trouble...God bless you all
[09:09] <l3ored> which install?
 terminal $ dmesg
[09:09] <DBO> chuck____, to see what groups you are in right now, run the... groups... command
[09:09] <aftertaf> since going to feisty stable... i have no wifi. cant load prism card
[09:09] <chuck____> DBO : ah okay, so the user list is delimited by commas
[09:09] <bezao> i have win at hda and ubuntu at hdb, how do i set a line at boot.ini to see option to boot to win or ubunto when startup?
[09:09] <RAOF> doseryder: As for your actual question... I'm not sure.
[09:10] <aftertaf> can anyone shed light?
[09:10] <Wooombat> XMR2F77 - I can only boot in BusyBox (
[09:10] <chuck____> DBO : so adding a user to another group as adding it to the appropriate line
[09:10] <DBO> chuck____, yep
[09:10] <mdious> Woombat:  I do not know what BusyBox is...what is Busybox...in a terminal like XMR2F77 suggested
[09:10] <XMR2F77> dont know about that sorry.... then ctrl - alt  f1
[09:10] <LightPwnyTesting> so is the cutter driver for broadcom good now or should i stick to wrapping it?
[09:11] <doseryder> RAOF: well, I've been using Ubuntu for 4 months now and I loved it.  Can't remember when the last time I booted into windows but I was told to use automatix2 the day I installed ubuntu.  But anyways, I stop using it.
[09:11] <PurpZeY> l3ored: For whatever program it is...download the install. drop the install in ~/wine and then call wine path
[09:11] <gordonjcp> baudthief: probably you'll find that the disk is mounted "noexec"
[09:11] <gordonjcp> baudthief: try copying the linux folder over to your home directory and running install.sh from there
[09:11] <MrC_> hi there
[09:11] <PurpZeY> l3ored: If you bear with me for one sec I can get you the path.
[09:11] <baudthief> gordonjcp: Thanks for the suggestion, will try that now
[09:11] <CheshireViking> bezao, do you use windows to manage the boot process, or are you using grub? from your question, it sounds like you're using windows and not grub thats normally installed by ubuntu
[09:11] <LightPwnyTesting> i was told automatix is a good starting tool
[09:12] <njero> kayde, I really understand that... my point is I wasn't able to do that from LINUX. everything I read at the time said that the only way to do it was through windows or mac. If you can't do the itunes restore (which can work even when windows doesn't "see" the device) then you may be in bad shape. Only other suggestion is to find a friend with a mac. Of course I could totally be wrong... but I spent days trying to find how to repair it
[09:12] <CaptainMorgan> can someone please tell me which is a good startup script to place something like "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace" in? I tried /etc/rc.local as someone suggested the other day, but it does not work
[09:12] <njero> from linux and couldn't find that. That is all I am saying...
[09:12] <Wooombat> mdious - while booting my root file system is failed to be mounted and i get into a BusyBox - minimal CLI
[09:12] <XMR2F77> dmesg | grep <what ever u look for>
[09:12] <LightPwnyTesting> i thought the windows boot loader didnt have linux built in
[09:12] <kayde> njero: thanks mate, im trying annother linux ipod-restorer..
[09:12] <CheshireViking> !grub | bezao
[09:12] <kuru> not related to Ubuntu or linux, but I don't know where else to ask -- when mtr shows that somewhere along the line, there are some serious packet losses on the way to your hosted server
[09:12] <ubotu> bezao: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:12] <kuru> who do you talk to?
[09:13] <kuru> The ISP says not my problem
[09:13] <kuru> the hosting provider says not my problem
[09:13] <PurpZeY> l3ored: You did winecfg?
[09:13] <kuru> and I'm not in a position to talk to Level3 London or swhatever it is
[09:13] <mdious> Woombat:  I just looked at http://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html and it looks like you can use dmesg
[09:13] <njero> kayde, I am eager to know if you get it working...
[09:13] <LightPwnyTesting> lol grub should be the default boot manager for everything
[09:13] <mdious> Wooombat:  I just looked at http://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html and it looks like you can use dmesg
[09:13] <kuru> Since I'm not an ISP and I'm not a hosting provider
[09:13] <mdious> sorry double posting...
[09:13] <bezao> how do i boot ubuntu from boot.ini of winxp?
[09:14] <ganes> hiplz a help
[09:14] <Wooombat> mdious - it says "command ton found"
[09:14] <bezao> sorry, i saw now ubotu
[09:14] <MrC_> does anyone knows which kinda of archive manager can i open .RAR files?
[09:14] <neutralrobotboy> i have 2 hard drives on this computer -- hda and sda (ide and sata). i want to install ubuntu on the ide drive, but have it boot from the sata drive. the default boot location is "hd0". do i want to change it then to "sd0"?
[09:14] <chuck____> I have my apache docroot with my linux login being the owner and the group is www-data... now that I've added my login to the www-data group, when I create a new file in that directory, will the file belong to chuck.chuck or chuck.www-data?
[09:14] <krinns> hi all
[09:14] <jessmon_> hello, when i try go to terminal in feisty, I get kicked back to the login screen - any ideas?
[09:14] <Grein> I've got a 2.8ghz core 2 duo with 2gb ram. Can I run Ubuntu within WinXP using VMware and not have it fail at life?
[09:14] <ganes> hi how to change the kernel version
[09:14] <krinns> when i install ubuntu bapper its going to blank after 50% on install
[09:14] <chuck____> nevermind, it doesn't work like that
[09:14] <krinns> any idea
[09:14] <krinns> its Inter server board
[09:14] <krinns> intel
[09:15] <njero> bezao, it is a pain... did you install windows after ubuntu?
[09:15] <bezao> njero no, i did  xp then ubuntu
[09:15] <mdious> Wooombat:  could you just look at /var/log/syslog ?
[09:15] <cbs> lol, i have a newb question...how do I unmount folders in /media?
[09:15] <njero> bezao, and it is really looking at boot.ini?
[09:15] <kitsuneofdoom> cbs: sudo umount /media/hda1
[09:15] <kitsuneofdoom> or whatever
[09:15] <robokop> cbs: sudo umount /media/folder
[09:15] <bezao> but i had some problens with hal.dll of winxp, so i need to erase grub
[09:15] <cbs> OH! umount
[09:15] <kitt2> Hi all: I am Using Ubuntu 7.04 from few days.. The first time i booted after installation i got the sound card recognized.. but after restart, i was not getting any sound.. I have a Crystal CS 4281 sound card..
[09:16] <CheshireViking> !grub > bezao, See the private message from ubotu for details on how to restore grub
[09:16] <njero> bezao, if you can, just use grub... change your bios to point at your ubuntu drive
[09:16] <njero> oh
[09:16] <chuck____> Does anyone know how this can be done?  to automatically set new files in a certain directory to belong to a certain group?  I've chowned the directory, but whenever I make a new file it belongs to my linux login chuck.chuck instead of chuck.www-data (www-data is the group that owns the dir)
[09:16] <Wooombat> mdious - Yes i can! from the live cd
[09:16] <kitt2> what do i d o now???
[09:16] <cbs> not uNmount
[09:16] <PurpZeY> !sound
[09:16] <kayde> njero: ok :) here goes...
[09:16] <bezao> thaqnks CheshireViking
[09:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:16] <PurpZeY> Kitt2: See Above.
[09:16] <MrC_> Bezao i have sended you a pvt message
[09:17] <kitt2> PurpZeY: will try and get back to you.. thanks
[09:17] <cbs> how do I display all currently mounted devices?
[09:17] <cbs> and how do I remove the folders in /media?
[09:17] <bezao> MrC_ i did not got it
[09:17] <Knoeki> what was the name of the general ubuntu chat channel?
[09:17] <mdious> Wooombat:  Good thinking, hope you sort out your problem :(
[09:17] <ganes> hi how to change the kernel for live cd
[09:17] <DBO> cbs, to display all mounted devices... type "mount" in a terminal
[09:18] <CheshireViking> !offtopic | Knoeki
[09:18] <ubotu> Knoeki: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:18] <Knoeki> cheers mate ^_^
[09:18] <Wooombat> mdious - actualy the syze of syslog is 0 bytes (
[09:18] <v3n0m`> help tv tuner nonworking
[09:18] <ganes> plz answer me
[09:18] <chuck____> Is that even possible to automatically set new files to be owned by a certain group instead of the user who created it?
[09:18] <DBO> cbs, to remove folders in media, first check to make sure they arent already mountpoints for anything... if they aren't, sudo rm -rf /media/foldername
[09:18] <ganes> how to change the kernel for live
[09:18] <PurpZeY> There any sort of equivalent of AnyDVD for Ubuntu?
[09:18] <cbs> ty DBO
[09:19] <thespy> hey all
[09:19] <MrC_> Bezao,fala
[09:19] <MrC_>  eu acho que o ubuntu nao funciona direito ao lado do Windows,o problema 'e con a particao de memoria
[09:19] <mdious> Woombat:  what error do you get when trying to boot normally?  can you boot using recovery mode?
[09:19] <Wooombat> mdious - the log is empty because the kernel cant mount the root fs
[09:19] <thespy> i'm wondering how do i upgrade from dapper to feisty with a cd?
[09:19] <thespy> without removing my settings...
[09:19] <sahil> what settings?
[09:20] <aftertaf> any wifi experts around???
[09:20] <thespy> just general config, wallpaper, files..
[09:20] <bezao> the problem is that, i installed ubuntu, then i got problems to boot xp, then i erase boot, and maked mbr again, so i booted xp, but now i cant boot, linux(ubuntu) how i boot on it to set a floppyboot?
[09:21] <Wooombat> mdious - it says something like that "modprobe - abnormal exit" and when we use verbose boot it says "waiting for root folesytem" and then i get into Busybox
[09:21] <shimete> does anyone run songbird
[09:21] <v3n0m`> I need help getting my tv tuner to work >
[09:21] <ganes>  how to change the kernel for live
[09:21] <mdious> bezao:  could you boot ubuntu from live cd and run update-grub to redo your um...wait are you even using grub?
[09:21] <mdious> Wooombat:  you don't know what module it is trying to load do you?
[09:21] <ganes> preply plz
[09:21] <PurpZeY> mdious: I think he said he got rid of grub.
[09:21] <ganes> reply plz
[09:21] <Wooombat> mdious  - i dont.
[09:22] <MrC_> No,but i would to run Songbird too,but i don't have a clue how to install it.SHIMETE
[09:22] <bezao> mdious nop, i'm using mbr
[09:22] <mdious> PurpZey:  sorry to interrupt without reading everything properly :P
[09:22] <thespy> i run sonbird in windoze
[09:22] <mdious> bezao:  you handle dual booting with just your mbr?
[09:22] <Wooombat> mdious - ihave sis 650 chipset and P4 on the laptop
[09:22] <doseryder> Is WMWare Player what i need to load for example Windows XP?
[09:22] <PurpZeY> mdious: You're helping a lot of people...Best I can do is help you
[09:22] <bezao> mdious i want do that, but i got problem
[09:22] <bezao> lol
[09:22] <MrC_> how did you install it THESPY
[09:22] <MrC_> ?
[09:23] <mdious> PurpZey:  hehe, I'm not helping anyone...I guess it is sort of a good thing that it looks like it :P
[09:23] <CaptainMorgan> can someone please tell me which is a good startup script to place something like "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace" in? I tried /etc/rc.local as someone suggested the other day, but it does not work
[09:23] <thespy> from a cd originally
[09:23] <bezao> give me a link to re-install grub,
[09:23] <bezao> pls
[09:23] <krinns> CheshireViking can u send me how i restore grub
[09:23] <MrC_> have you got it from synaptic or super user manager?THESPY
[09:23] <CheshireViking> !grub > krinns
[09:23] <mdious> Wooombat:  i have no idea...maybe your HD chipset thingo is not supported...or you need to build a custom kernel with support for your chipset/drivers etc...I really don't know sorry, I am extreme newbie!
[09:23] <Wooombat> mdious - so do i
[09:23] <shimete> MrC_, you can run it by just downloading the file off the website but ubuntu doesn't register it as a proper application in the application menu, nor does it see it as a package in the package manager...
[09:24] <thespy> MrC: i dont have a clue
[09:24] <Wooombat> mdious - BUT! it DO boot from Live CD.....
[09:24] <krinns> yes
[09:24] <krinns> have installed ubuntu then windoes
[09:24] <krinns> now windows cant load
[09:25] <mdious> Wooombat:  can you see your HD when you boot from the live cd?  One thing I found with gentoo and ubuntu on my testing server that lead me to find I did not have the right support for my sata drive was that I couldn't actually see the drive when going to install it...but ah...you have already installed
[09:25] <bezao> krinns hal.dll?
[09:25] <Wooombat> mdious - yes i can see it from live cd. but syslog is empty
[09:26] <krinns> what
[09:27] <thespy> lots of questions, no solutions >_<
[09:27] <bezao> how to reinstall grub?
[09:27] <PurpZeY> bezao: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438262&highlight=hal.dll
[09:27] <thespy> meh, no
[09:27] <albertmk> I think that ppl are not expert enough
[09:27] <Enverex> I have an annoying round robin issue on my laptop. The Feisty installer didn't install the ATi binary drivers when it installed so X doesn't start. It doesn't connect to my WiFi because it uses WPA so I need to use network manager to connect to it to download the ATi drivers, but I can't get to network manager because I can't start X so I can't download the ATi drivers... see the issue? :/
[09:27] <aeon17x> Where can I find a list of shortcut keys for Ubuntu's desktop effects?
[09:28] <thespy> and win key + * doesn't work with anything
[09:28] <PurpZeY> bezao: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=449841&highlight=hal.dll -- More solutions
[09:28] <albertmk> I need a help
[09:28] <RAOF> Enverex: You *should* be able to use either the "ati" or "vesa" drivers to get X working.
[09:28] <Enverex> RAOF: ATi is only for things up to x850 and vesa for some reason just says "No screens found"
[09:29] <RAOF> Enverex: Failing that, you can (theoretically) use wpa_supplicant to connect to your WiFi from the CLI
[09:29] <mdious> Wooombat:  has this happened before on the laptop?
[09:29] <PurpZeY> !ask | albertmk
[09:29] <ubotu> albertmk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:29] <albertmk> I am having problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21945/
[09:29] <RAOF> Enverex: Only for 3D up to x850.  It *should* do 2D higher than that.  Sucks to be vesa, though.
[09:29] <Wooombat> mdious - in recovery mode i see it tries to boot pata_sis module and then modprobe exits abnormally
[09:29] <jjido> Hi All
[09:30] <Wooombat> mdious - the install is fresh
[09:30] <Wooombat> mdious - im a windoze user
[09:30] <v3n0m`> how are you on irc Enverex?
[09:30] <chuck____> In what directory do I add a script or symlink to start pure-ftpd as part of the normal boot/startup process?  /etc/init.d?
[09:30] <mdious> Wooombat:  check this link and see if it helps:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/107774
[09:30] <albertmk> I wish I knew why there are like 100 ppl here and only 3 or 4 ppl help users
[09:31] <CheshireViking> !upgrade > thespy, have a look at uboto's private message, maybe that will help, but I'm not sure if you can upgrade from a live cd, I thought it was only from the alternate cd
[09:31] <Grein> We're here to observe and pick up stuff so we can help people in the future.
[09:31] <Wooombat> mdious - ill try
[09:31] <mdious> albertmk:  i wish I knew why I try to help people when clearly I have no idea what the hell i'm doing lol...guess i'm just keen from some chit-chat/company lol
[09:31] <mdious> Woombat:  hope it helps...sorry i can't help more, wish i knew what i was doing :P
[09:32] <albertmk> mdious: I think 50% ppl here is sleeping
[09:32] <albertmk> -_-
[09:32] <jjido> I am trying to upgrade to feisty on the command-line, I ran cdromupgrade to extract the archive, then it errors (gksu fails) and I did: sudo ./feisty -c $PWD --frontend DistUpgradeViewText
[09:32] <Wooombat> mdious - ok thanks a lot
[09:32] <thespy> thanks CheshireViking
[09:32] <albertmk> Can anyone help me? I am having problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21945/
[09:33] <jjido> TypeError: askYesNoQuestion() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given)
[09:33] <soloso> I have a problem with X, ATI RAGE IIC card and Samsung SyncMaster 914V monitor... manually configured ranges for monitor but I'm still not getting 1280x1024 option
[09:33] <RAOF> thespy: You *can't*.  You *have* to go through Edgy.  So, you could either install Feisty over the top of your Dapper install (which will overwrite everything, unless you have your /home on a separate partition)
[09:33] <tarelerulz> Does  Ubuntu , have a wireless net finder tool by default
[09:33] <FP> Buongiorno a Tutti
[09:33] <mzuverink> Might anyone know if it is possible to put the trash bin in avant-window-navigator?
[09:34] <RAOF> thespy: Or you can additionally download the Edgy (6.10) *alternate* install CD, and use that to upgrade Dapper->Edgy and then the alternate Feisty CD to upgrade Edgy -> Feisty
[09:34] <thespy> RAOF oh crap, i meant edgy, not dapper
[09:34] <varka> soloso: please paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste an post the link to the generated page here
[09:34] <jjido> RAOF: I have trouble with the alternate install CD
[09:35] <RAOF> thespy: Heh.  In that case, if you've got the Alternate CD, it should *ask* you whether or not you want to upgrade when you put it in.  If you've got the desktop CD, you can't upgrade from it (because it doesn't have the pacakges on it, just the unpacked filesystem)
[09:35] <RAOF> jjido: "trouble" is not something I can help with :). Just ask your question.
[09:36] <soloso> varka: will do
[09:36] <jjido> I am trying to install Feisty from the command-line, I get an error -- TypeError: askYesNoQuestion() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given)
[09:36] <jack_deltrino> How do I do what dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9 > Packages.gz does with apt-ftparchive? If you don't know what dpkg-scanpackages does, then you most likely won't know how to help me.
[09:36] <varka> tarelerulz: yesterday you asked for an yahoo messenger client with webcam and voice-support: have a look at GYach Enhanced
[09:36] <thespy> oh alright
[09:36] <jjido> I did: sudo ./feisty -c $PWD --frontend DistUpgradeViewText
[09:37] <tarelerulz> Varka, I looked into that and I have never seen to get it installed right.
[09:37] <doseryder> I was told that I need WMWare to load Windows XP in linux  and I just installed WMWare Player.  I'm not sure if I
[09:37] <RAOF> jjido: Where did you do that?  I've never seen that set of commands before.
[09:37] <MrC_> Could anyone help with the installation of realplayer?
[09:37] <Libere> thespy: Yes, except that the end result of that is that you have vista.  *shudder*
[09:38] <doseryder> Im not sure how to get this to work, can someone give me the gist of it?
[09:38] <jjido> RAOF: I looked inside the cdromupgrade script
[09:38] <MrC_> i am trying to install it but i am getting this errors root@charlles-laptop:~# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[09:38] <MrC_> -su: deb: command not found
[09:38] <MrC_> root@charlles-laptop:~# sudo apt-get realplayer deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[09:38] <MrC_> E: Invalid operation realplayer
[09:38] <MrC_> root@charlles-laptop:~# sudo apt-get install realplayer
[09:38] <MrC_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:38] <MrC_> Building dependency tree
[09:38] <MrC_> Reading state information... Done
[09:38] <MrC_> Package realplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:38] <MrC_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:38] <tarelerulz> Kopete seem to be the only one I have seen that is well supported and easy to install .
[09:38] <MrC_> is only available from another source
[09:38] <CheshireViking> !paste
[09:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <MrC_> E: Package realplayer has no installation candidate
[09:39] <RAOF> jjido: As far as I know, upgrade-manager is not supported except from the GUI.  There's always the "sudo sed -i s/edgy/feisty/ /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" option, however.
[09:40] <robokop> burning doesn't work for me, because my burning device is an ide device and cdrecorder wants a scsi device
[09:40] <jjido> RAOF: that is a bit risky. I would really like the text-based installer (low memory)
[09:40] <Enverex> jjido: That is text based
[09:41] <baudthief> how do you set bash as the default command to execute .sh files?
[09:41] <mdious> Wooombat:  was that link any help...I just googled for "modprobe exits abnormally pata_sis"...maybe that can help you more...sorry for not helping more, trying to get some job applications underway since I am not unemployed hehe
[09:41] <RAOF> jjido: I didn't know there *was* a text-based installer, quite frankly.
[09:42] <soloso> varka: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/10950/
[09:42] <RAOF> jjido: And that error is either a bug (that you'll need some Python knowledge to fix) or something that the devs don't care about, becasue it's not meant to work.
[09:42] <ioka||> how can i install ubuntu without booting to live cd ?
[09:42] <RAOF> ioka||: By downloading the Alternate CD.
[09:42] <Myrtti> download and burn alternative install cd
[09:42] <robokop> baudthief: look if the file starts with #! /usr/bin/bash
[09:42] <ioka||> thanks
[09:43] <mdious> ioka | |:  you can just boot the cd and choose to install in text mode...I think...but alternative install cd sounds better...
[09:43] <varka> soloso: your xorg.conf looks correct, what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[09:43] <CheshireViking> !installing > ioka||, see the private message from uboto, maybe that link will help
[09:43] <soloso> just a sec
[09:43] <Jack31> is there a way to add a shortcut like ctrl +k or ctrl +c to starta console?
[09:44] <Jack31> well i guess not ctrl c
[09:44] <Jack31> but ctrl k
[09:44] <mdious> quick noob question, if I install say...debian, gentoo whatever...on another partition I already have setup...don't install a bootloader during those installs, then boot ubuntu and run update-grub...will that add the entries for debian/gentoo to menu.lst?
[09:44] <varka> Jack31: gconf-editor   apps/metacity/global_keybinds
[09:44] <soloso> varka: something in particular to look for?
[09:45] <jjido> RAOF: Ok I will take it as a bug, maybe the developers will help me.
[09:45] <Jack31> varka, does that work for kde also?
[09:45] <PurpZeY> mdious: Not that I know what I'm talking about, but it seems like grub is designed to work like that.
[09:45] <varka> Jack31: no, but you have to aks somebody else for the kde solution
[09:45] <RAOF> jjido: I'd try to find some command-line upgrade stuff on the ubuntu-wiki, and then perhaps file a bug against the update-manager thingy
[09:45] <cuco> hi, i am trying to install ubuntu 7.04 using debootstrap and need some help
[09:46] <vamp1r3> how do u check kernel version ?
[09:46] <MrC_> does anyone knows how to install a .bin file/program?
[09:46] <PurpZeY> !ask | cuco
[09:46] <ubotu> cuco: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:46] <Biohazard> hi
[09:46] <Enverex> MrC_: Just run it
[09:46] <Jack31> !ask | ubotu
[09:46] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:46] <Jack31> :)
[09:46] <vamp1r3> MrC, you have to right click and under permisson set it to auto execute
[09:47] <varka> soloso: you can start with looking at WW or EE started lines by running cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep WW or EE
[09:47] <mdious> PurpZey:  Thanks, I set up a few partitions when I set my laptop up again...it said in the man page that that is what is suppose to happen, but haven't tried it so thought I would ask to see if anyone else has used it.  Thanks for your help!
[09:47] <soloso> varka: I see a couple of 1280x1024 (insufficient memory for mode)
[09:47] <soloso> I was running this same set up with RH in 1280x1024 mode
[09:48] <varka> soloso: ok, then your graphics adapter isnt capable of that resuliton because of too few memory
[09:48] <jack_deltrino> cat and grep? *shudder*
[09:48] <IronMaiden> hello,  can i remove xscreensaver?
[09:48] <PurpZeY> mdious: I think you and I are in the same position...know enough to help with small problems...but not know enough to be particularly helpful...hehehe
[09:48] <MrC_> ok thcx vamp1r3
[09:49] <mdious> PurpZey:  very true, I should just keep quiet :P
[09:49] <varka> jack_deltrino: im not that kind of crack, so tell me: what is a better command to suggest?
[09:49] <jack_deltrino> varka: Just grep...
[09:49] <jack_deltrino> varka: cat piping to grep is wasteful.
[09:49] <cuco> the new machine boots up, but "/" is mounted RO on boots, and is not shows in "df", any ideas?
[09:49] <cuco> vamp1r3: uname -a
[09:50] <varka> jack_deltrino: i see, thx
[09:50] <cuco> PurpZeY: nice, but again, read my last message
[09:50] <cuco> the new machine boots up, but "/" is mounted RO on boots, and is not shows in "df", any ideas?
[09:51] <Enverex> Are the FGLRX drivers on the Feisty install CD itself? (as it has a mini-repo on it)
[09:51] <PurpZeY> jack_deltrino: What do you mean by cat piping? That different from running a command say ls | grep var ?
[09:51] <jack_deltrino> varka: You also lost me on the idiom by the way. "not that kind of crack" ?
[09:51] <soloso> varka: thanks for the pointer
[09:51] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: That's different
[09:51] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: cat is dumping information which grep would have processed anyway.
[09:51] <Frogzoo> Enverex: why not take a look at the cd?
[09:51] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: grep'ing files != ls | grep
[09:52] <Enverex> Frogzoo: Because I'm trying to limit movement right now, heh
[09:52] <mdious> I'm off, cya everyone, thanks for your help - sorry I could not return the favour...one day!
[09:52] <PurpZeY> jack_deltrino: Ok, so you are saying it's just generally inefficient to just grep something without anyone command?
[09:53] <PurpZeY> jack_deltrino: I am just curious as to what you were saying was a poor thing to do.
[09:53] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: Not sure what you mean by that, but if you see any program reading information from a file and then passing it to grep is a poor thing to do.
[09:53] <varka> jack_deltrino: the idiom was a poor english atempt to tell you about my mediorce linux skills ;)
[09:53] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: grep's purpose is to read through the file
[09:54] <PurpZeY> jack_deltrino: Ok I see. thanks.
[09:54] <Enverex> Frogzoo... I also seem to have lost the CD :/
[09:56] <puntux> how to make gnome terminal tabbable (open several terminals as tabs within the same terminal)
[09:56] <melchior> puntux, shift-control-t
[09:56] <MrC_> So,now where should put those files and how to create/add(RealPlayer) it to the menu?Enverex
[09:56] <Enverex> Does anyone know if the fglrx packages are actually included on the Feisty CD?
[09:56] <crdlb> Enverex: I'm pretty sure they aren't
[09:57] <crdlb> I remember having to download nvidia-glx
[09:57] <puntux> melter: where is the option that I can set it to be a permanent default behavior?
[09:58] <MrC_> I just have extracted the RealPlayer files,now where should i place it,and how can i add/create a shortcut on desktop?
[09:58] <CheshireViking> Enverex, they might be included, but i'm not certain, the other week I installed on a laptop (admittedly using the alternate cd) and it installed fglrx drivers before any updates were downloaded
[09:59] <the_giver> damn intel: http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/21/negroponte-intel-should-be-ashamed-of-itself/   we need to start boycotting them or do smoething about this.. cuz that is not cool
[09:59] <Libere> mrC_: System>Preferences>Main Menu>  New Item
[09:59] <melchior> puntux, just create them as you need them
[10:00] <MrC_> ok ,but what about the files,i mean the ones that i have extrected to make RealPlayer to work
[10:00] <MrC_> Libere
[10:01] <HyperDevil> I cannot seem to install wine, i have all the sources but i cannot find the package?
[10:01] <Flannel> HyperDevil: You need to enable universe
[10:01] <HyperDevil> Flannel: that is enabled
[10:01] <Libere> MrC_: Stash them in a folder labelled realplayer along with your other applications.
[10:02] <Flannel> HyperDevil: How are you trying to install?
[10:02] <HyperDevil> sudo apt-get install wine
[10:02] <HyperDevil> and with Synaptocs
[10:02] <HyperDevil> Synaptic
[10:02] <Flannel> HyperDevil: have you updated your package cache after enabling universe?
[10:02] <HyperDevil> I have not updated anything, it was on by default
[10:02] <Flannel> HyperDevil: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[10:03] <HyperDevil> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe
[10:03] <HyperDevil> The package aint there
[10:03] <bytee> I run Feisty Fawn, and I'm wondering how I can install Seamonkey? a simple apt-cache search shows nothing... is it renamed to something else? (this is Mozilla Seamonkey I'm referring to)
[10:04] <Enverex> bytee It's not in the repos
[10:04] <Flannel> HyperDevil: yes it is. I'm looking at it right now.
[10:04] <bytee> Enverex: is there a reason why this is the case? Lack of a maintainer or some other reason?
[10:05] <HyperDevil> Flannel: Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:05] <Flannel> bytee: seamonkey will be in gutsy, before (in edgy) it was still mozilla-suite.
[10:06] <Flannel> HyperDevil: again: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine`
[10:06] <heroin> U think it be ok to a counter strike source howto to the wiki?
[10:06] <MrC_> on which file of File System should place them?Lebere
[10:06] <deCon> how do i install a file from a .tar.gz that i download?
[10:06] <HyperDevil> Flannel: i have dont a update, no success same problem
[10:06] <bytee> Flannel: ok. but there's no "reason"?
[10:06] <levon> how do i change my color resolution
[10:06] <deCon> the easiest way
[10:06] <HyperDevil> done
[10:06] <Flannel> bytee: I don't know why, but Im sure theres some reason.
[10:06] <deCon> heroin: what about CSS??? I've been wondering about installing it over on my linux partition
[10:06] <Flannel> HyperDevil: pastebin your sources.list
[10:06] <heroin> deCon: a server for css and half life
[10:07] <bytee> Flannel: heh, thanks. i'll keep my search alive to see why then. thanks
[10:07] <Flannel> bytee: you might ask in #ubuntu-motu
[10:07] <deCon> how do i install something from a downloaded file?
[10:07] <heroin> deCon: so the server part not the client part :)
[10:07] <levon> does anyone know how to change the color resolution? please
[10:08] <deCon> heroin: gotcha...does CSS run alright in steam?
[10:08] <deCon> heroin: rather...in ubuntu?
[10:08] <frying_fish> deCon, it can sometimes work under wine
[10:08] <MrC_> does anyone knows where to place the files from RealPlayer that i just extracted.I mean on the File System
[10:08] <deCon> Flannel: how do i install something from a tar.gz that I have downloaded?
[10:08] <frying_fish> but, seomtimes not.
[10:08] <heroin> deCon: well i hate CSS but 1.6 runs like a demon :)
[10:09] <frying_fish> deCon, tar xf FILE.tar.gz  then go into the dir it makes and see what it says
[10:09] <Flannel> deCon: That depends on what's in the archive; assuming it's source....
[10:09] <Flannel> !compile | deCon
[10:09] <MrC_> or where does the applications files goes on theFile System
[10:09] <ubotu> deCon: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:09] <deCon> Flannel: thanks!
[10:09] <levon> flannel do you know how to change the color resolution in ubunut?
[10:09] <mrcreativity> can some one upplease help me with auto logging into the keyring manager on start
[10:09] <levon> *ubuntu
[10:10] <compengi> Seveas, hi
[10:10] <Flannel> MrC_: what's the executable?  type "which real[tab] [tab] " and it should autocomplete the executable name. Then the which command will tell you where it is
[10:10] <Enverex> bytee No idea
[10:10] <Flannel> mrcreativity: I believe "libpam-keyring" will do that
[10:10] <compengi> Seveas, can i pm you?
[10:11] <dchky> I wonder what elvis would think.
[10:11] <ko12upt> aright, can anyone please help me im trying to adjust my color resolution and i cant find the pannel to to it in
[10:11] <Frogzoo> mrcreativity: there's forum posts on it - you need to install a pam module
[10:11] <mrcreativity> im did that, i cant seem to find the page that has the information
[10:12] <Flannel> mrcreativity: can't find what?
[10:12] <heroin> Anyway shall i add a css server howto to the wiki?
[10:12] <mrcreativity> the post
[10:13] <mrcreativity> that shows how to configure
[10:13] <dchky> Why do you need to change the colour depth in X ko12upt
[10:13] <anathematic> what version kernal is ubuntu 7.04 running?
[10:13] <ko12upt> im not sure if its using the right depth
[10:13] <crdlb> anathematic: 2.6.20
[10:13] <dchky> have you updated it ever anathematic
[10:13] <anathematic> crdlb:  thank you
[10:13] <Bibagi> how to setup pppoe in ubuntu ?????????????????
[10:13] <ko12upt> doesnt look right it should be 16 million colors but doesnt look like it
[10:14] <dchky> type xdpyinfo | less in a shell window and read the first 15 or so lines
[10:14] <Flannel> mrcreativity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager#head-691ab1f191007294d3bf039bd627131628b40410
[10:14] <Flannel> mrcreativity: right above that heading.
[10:14] <MrC_> Flannel  already did it but i just don't know where to place the files now,on which file of the File System should i place it?
[10:14] <MrC_>  I have extracted them to the desktop,so i need to place the somewhere(like in Windows for ex.C:/Program Files/xxx
[10:14] <ko12upt> i just enabled my nvidia card too so thats working fine but im just curious on the color depth
[10:14] <ko12upt> thanis
[10:15] <mrcreativity> thank you
[10:15] <crdlb> !pppoe | Bibagi
[10:15] <ubotu> Bibagi: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[10:15] <crdlb> and if that doesn't work, you could always get a router :P
[10:15] <dchky> xdpyinfo | awk /depth\ of/ - if it says 24 then you have 32bit color
[10:16] <Flannel> MrC_: ah, I understand.  Uh, actually, before you do that.  There's a realplayer package in canonicals repositories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[10:16] <ko12upt> okay 32 bits per bixle min key code is 8 and max is 255
[10:16] <ko12upt> *pixel
[10:17] <Ronald|Laptop> Anybody know about debugging something postfix+sasl on feisty (migrating it from gentoo where it works) ?
[10:17] <ziroday> have some trouble with truecrypt and forcefield any help?
[10:17] <Bibagi> crdlb : i tried that one.. but that does't work :S
[10:17] <dchky> what needs debugging?
[10:17] <dchky> postfix or sasl?
[10:18] <ko12upt> dcky how do i change the depth? its not right
[10:18] <Ronald|Laptop> warning: SASL authentication failure: no secret in database - SASL CRAM-MD5 authentication failed: authentication failure
[10:18] <Ronald|Laptop> obviously the data is there in SQL :P
[10:18] <dchky> what is your current depth? ko12upt ?
[10:18] <dchky> type this: xdpyinfo | awk /depth\ of/ then tell me what it says
[10:18] <dchky> only if you want to though...
[10:18] <ubuntubeginz> hi guys, although the apt and synaptic manager are the best way to install programs,,,however i want to try .deb and source installtions...anyone can recommend some simple programs which fall into this category... cheers
[10:19] <ko12upt> 32 bites
[10:19] <Enverex> ubuntubeginz The point of source is that there is no "program" to do it for you
[10:19] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: package managers use .deb files.  They just do the downloading/installing in one step
[10:19] <dchky> 32 planes? That's as good as it gets ko12upt
[10:19] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: to install a deb you just have to save it somewhere then double click on it
[10:20] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: so i take sasl :)
[10:20] <dchky> Sorry Ronald|Laptop yup, i had that problem a while back, it is sasl
[10:20] <ubuntubeginz> i mean software which hasnt been packaged for ubuntu yet...
[10:20] <ko12upt> aw wait 24 planes
[10:20] <dchky> I'm thinking what I did to fix it.
[10:20] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: perhaps you remember what you did ;)
[10:20] <ubuntubeginz> so they exisitng in the deb or source format...
[10:20] <ko12upt> dchky its only 24 planes
[10:21] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: to convert a .rpm you can use alien but installing from source is a pain
[10:21] <dchky> 24 planes = 32 bits ko12upt - your colour depth is at maximum.
[10:21] <leatherpantz> fuck this room is busy..
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | leatherpantz
[10:21] <ubotu> leatherpantz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:21] <leatherpantz> alright
[10:22] <leatherpantz> correction:
[10:22] <ko12upt> dchky there isnt a panel that i could check out?
[10:22] <Ronald|Laptop> dhorner: /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21950/
[10:22] <leatherpantz> blimey, this room's packed!
[10:22] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: sorry
[10:22] <ko12upt> its alrigh thanks for the help dchky
[10:22] <Madpilot> leatherpantz, 1100 is pretty typical for #ubuntu
[10:23] <chuck____> I want to create a new user with a password but the -p option for the useradd command only accepts an already-encrypted password using crypt()... how do I go about getting this encrypted password?  i tried looking for a man page for crypt but it doesn't exist
[10:23] <dchky> ko12upt,  not sure sorry, I just tweak the config files manually.
[10:23] <zaggynl> ~1250 lately
[10:23] <ubuntubeginz> ziroday: i am asking this qn..cos i am reading the Ubuntu hacks book...and they were explaining how other modes of installing programms are available..and I wanted to try and thus asked for some recommendations..
[10:23] <dchky> Welcome, sorry, I'm not at the right computer here, it's offline.
[10:24] <leatherpantz> i take it this is Not the right channel to talk about, i dont know, leather clothes
[10:24] <leatherpantz> i mean.. room.
[10:24] <leatherpantz> blimey..
[10:24] <chuck____> Where the hell is this crypt function?
[10:24] <dchky> chuck____, why don't you just do adduser, then passwd username
[10:24] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: sorry the three main formats are source (a pain), .deb and .rpm
[10:24] <chuck____> what does that do?
[10:24] <dchky> adds a user to the system, then changes the password for that user.
[10:24] <chuck____> can you be a little more specific on the syntax of what I have to do
[10:24] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: maybe i dont quite understand what youre looking for??
[10:24] <dchky> ok, open a terminal window
[10:24] <chuck____> passwd username password?
[10:25] <dchky> type adduser
[10:25] <chuck____> passwd username password?
[10:25] <chuck____> Is all I need to know
[10:25] <mrgenixus> is there a way to remove the ubuntu branding from the distubution (post-install)
[10:25] <dchky> once the user has been added to the system, type password username <- replace the word username with the name you just added, then hit enter
[10:25] <ubuntubeginz> ziroday: can give me some softwares Examples which exist in these 3 formats... so i can install them and learn the other ways of installing stuff
[10:25] <mrgenixus> all the logos and stufff...
[10:25] <dchky> it'll ask you to type a password for that user,
[10:25] <chuck____> oh okay
[10:25] <dchky> type passwd --help
[10:25] <ubuntubeginz> ziroday: U catch wat i am saying now..
[10:25] <Ax3> "Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem."
[10:26] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: yea do you want the same package or are diff packages okay?
[10:26] <Ax3> anyone get this problem using vmware?
[10:26] <mrgenixus> Ax3: sounds serious
[10:26] <chuck____> dchky : is there a difference between adduser and useradd or are they analagous
[10:26] <dchky> I wonder why it's called bonobo
[10:26] <dchky> sorry, I might have messed up, it's adduser
[10:26] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: you meant to tell me you cannot reach your machine to look at sasl :)?
[10:26] <Ax3> using vmware, just started up 7.04 for the first time, and got that error
[10:26] <dchky> useradd should not be on the system.
[10:27] <ubuntubeginz> ziroday: just some simple softwares...names or sumtin...so i can dl them and try....
[10:27] <dchky> Sorry Ronald|Laptop, it's in the office over the road, and I unplugged it about an hour ago. Some kind of murphy's law I guess.
[10:27] <chuck____> dchky : ? why not?  It appears to have the same functionality as adduser
[10:27] <dchky> chuck____, it's probably aliased, I suspect it's an identical command.
[10:27] <leatherpantz> ok... let's... make the discussion a bit more interesting
[10:27] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: guess so, i'm sure someone among the 1100 here must know though ;)
[10:27] <leatherpantz> Macs RUUUULE
[10:27] <leatherpantz> right?
[10:27] <chuck____> dchky : aye that's what i asked :<
[10:27] <dchky> <-- slow today.
[10:28] <leatherpantz> oh wow, like, 3 people left
[10:28] <leatherpantz> that sentence is magic
[10:28] <compengi> !de
[10:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:28] <dchky> what do macs rule?
[10:29] <ubuntubeginz> leatherpantz: pls dont spam in this channel
[10:29] <Fivetwentysix> Macs rule apple
[10:29] <Fivetwentysix> lol
[10:29] <Ronald|Laptop> So anyone else want to have a go at a Sasl problem (migrating setup from gentoo to feisty)
[10:29] <MrC_> thx Flannel good link
[10:29] <stow_> so i'm having a problem with samba. any help available?
[10:30] <Frogzoo> !anyone
[10:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:31] <dchky> It's been like that since 1992 ubotu
[10:31] <stow_> and it's also why i didn't aske that question...
[10:31] <stow_> take note i asked if help was available, not "is anyone else having" my problem
[10:32] <stow_> and it appears that there isn't any help available at 3:30 am.
[10:32] <stow_> wtf is wrong with you people. sleep is for the weak.
[10:32] <ubuntubeginz> stow_: just ask the qn,man ... and dont start a cyberwar here
[10:33] <stow_> ok then. samba is running, on my windows mach i can see the ubuntu box, but my share isn't showing.
[10:33] <stow_> i used um . . .
[10:34] <Ronald|Laptop> Postfix+Sasl problem: warning: SASL authentication failure: no secret in database warning: unknown[192.168.0.33] : SASL CRAM-MD5 authentication failed: authentication failure / http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21950/
[10:34] <Gabz> stow_: it's 6 33 pm in australia keep your ideas that you live in the only country in the world to yourself :P
[10:34] <dchky> stow_, open up a nautilus window, hit ctrl+L then type smb://ip_address_of_the_windows_machine
[10:34] <stow_> i used swat to set it up.
[10:34] <stow_> Gabz i was simply going by the same assumption that the installer did ^_^
[10:34] <mzuverink> In gnome, I have check the show trash box in the apps section of configuration editor, but it does not appear.  What can I do to make it appear
[10:36] <Frogzoo> stow_: don't know if it will mess up swat, but I'd add the share in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:36] <Gabz> stow_:  you can paste your smb.conf and we can look for problems..
[10:36] <stow_> that'd be great. It's one of the things i need help with tho.
[10:36] <stow_> ok hold 1.
[10:36] <Frogzoo> stow_: specifically, the share needs 'browseable'
[10:36] <Myrtti> stow_: to pastebin
[10:37] <stow_> heh yes i knew not to spam the chan, but thanx for clarifying.
[10:37] <Myrtti> just to make sure ;-)
[10:38] <neutralrobotboy> so... for lack of a better way of putting it, the ubuntu installer has screwed me and now i need to put things right.
[10:38] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: what happned ?
[10:38] <stow_> fark... pastebin has a db problem. . . hold 1.
[10:39] <neutralrobotboy> grub does not recognize the partition ubuntu is installed on, nor does it have windows as an option.
[10:39] <neutralrobotboy> so for the moment, my only oses are live cds.
[10:40] <stow_> http://dpaste.com/10799/
[10:40] <stow_> quite vanilla.
[10:40] <stow_> thanks for lookin at it.
[10:41] <neutralrobotboy> can anyone help with this problem? 'cause i'd kinda like to be able to use my computer...
[10:41] <stow_> Yoh is the drive that doesn't show up as a share.
[10:42] <Gabz> stow_:  available = No shouldn't that be yes... hold on while i find a refference file...
[10:43] <mzuverink> For some reason I cannot get my trash bin to appear on the desktop even though I checked the box in Configuration Editor.  I am thinking that I may have deleted inadvertantly.  What do I need to do to get it back?
[10:43] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: i have same problem
[10:43] <stow_> god i hope it was that simple Gabz
[10:44] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: had any luck fixing it?
[10:44] <Gabz> stow_: probably not just finding a reference
[10:44] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: ofcourse
[10:44] <stow_> Gabz: no that was it.
[10:45] <Gabz> stow_: there you go you had the share disabled..
[10:45] <stow_> in SWAT that "available" flag is under a header called "event log"
[10:45] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: get on a boot-diskette for windows and type format /mbr and you're good to go for windows
[10:45] <Rex> Good morning all.
[10:45] <stow_> so it didnt' really connect to me in that way. you know?
[10:45] <stow_> Gabz: anyway thank you for you time and your help.
[10:45] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: it will only wipe out and rewrite mbr for windows nothing else !
[10:46] <Gabz> stow_: no probs
[10:46] <stow_> Gabz: just curious where in Austr are you?
[10:46] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: and i guess ubuntu is just not going to work with my computer?
[10:46] <tri3axe> Heyas, what apps are there for erasing/rewriting cd-rw's and burning .iso images?
[10:46] <Rex> I have just recently configured X for my ATI Radeon 9000. Now the buttons on my windows are a different colour than the theme. Anyone ever seen this before?
[10:46] <stow_> i have a friend in brisbane. maybe you know him? (= just kidding.
[10:46] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: it is going to work
[10:46] <Gabz> stow_: hunter valley coal mining country
[10:46] <stow_> that southern coast?
[10:46] <Frogzoo> tri3axe: k3b
[10:47] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: the problem is that newbies like you and me get how stuff is working after 10-20 unsuccesful installs
[10:47] <tri3axe> k3b in gnome?
[10:47] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: you just learn from mistakes
[10:47] <Gabz> stow_: mid north coast 200km up from sydney and 600 km down from brisbane
[10:47] <spx2> tri3axe: im running gnochm in fluxbox so what ?
[10:47] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: so, reformatting the mbr will fix both problems?
[10:47] <stow_> cool.
[10:47] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: no , it will just let you acces windows
[10:48] <compengi> !ru
[10:48] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:49] <stow_> Gabz: well thanks again... this has been a huge thorn in my side for about a month now. I just tonight blew away kubuntu and installed ubuntu server then kde. previously i had a totally different problem that i couldn't get solved. when the problem was different this time i was very hopeful.
[10:49] <stow_> many sleepless nights have now paid off. good job and thanks aga.
[10:49] <stow_> later all
[10:49] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: ok. i have a feeling that this could all be fixed with proper usage of grub, but i don't understand grub.
[10:49] <Draco_> can anyone recommend a better irc client than xchat ?
[10:49] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: there's very little to know about grub
[10:50] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: what you want to know more about is what grub understands tghrough (x,y,z)
[10:50] <GigaClon> Draco_, what is your problem with it
[10:51] <spx2> Gabz: does a primary partition contain logical ones ?
[10:51] <Draco_> GigaClon,  its unable to establish ctcp conenctions and dcc receives, I get the error DCC SEND  to J^cumm failed. Bad file descriptor
[10:51] <spx2> Draco_: irssi
[10:51] <Gabz> spx2:  it can and it can't
[10:51] <spx2> Draco_: why does not xchat fit ur needs ?
[10:52] <GigaClon> its prolly not a xchat thing, its prolly a router thing
[10:52] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: hmm... i installed grub on the right drive, but maybe not the right partition?
[10:52] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: yes
[10:52] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: how much ram you got ?
[10:52] <neutralrobotboy> 1gb
[10:52] <Draco_> let me try irssi and see if I have the same problem
[10:53] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: then i suggest you run ubuntu in a vpc/vmware
[10:53] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: so that you dont hurt your system and cause data-losss
[10:53] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: until you get to understand it better
[10:53] <chuck____> for some reason I can't get PureDB authentication to work with pure-ftp.  Unix authentication works fine, however.  I've added the user using pure-pw, rebuilt the PureDB database file, and restarted the server to no avail.  i'm consistently getting a "login failed."  the only login that works is my linux login.  i had gotten another account to work through UNIX auth by adding a user with useradd and giving it a password  but that's n
[10:53] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: hmm, i guess. i thought that ubuntu was supposed to be easy for newbies to install and use.
[10:54] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: no linux is easy for newbies,it has too much liberty and you can fuck up your system in seconds
[10:54] <Draco_> great repositories are still broken
[10:54] <backblue> hi, how can i rebuild a package, for ubuntu?
[10:54] <GigaClon> test it with Gaim
[10:54] <chuck____> pure-ftpd is really getting on my nerves tonight
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Draco_: use a differnet country code
[10:55] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: well, i never had it this bad with mandrake... and i thought ubuntu was supposed to be easier to work out of the box.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> backblue: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[10:55] <Draco_> gnomefreak, tried ZA and main both not working
[10:55] <backblue> gnomefreak: tks
[10:55] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:55] <chuck____> UNIX auth works, then it doesn't, then it does with only my actual desktop login, rinse and repeat... and PureDB is just 100% fubar
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Draco_: my dapper feisty and gutsy ones work fine here
[10:55] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: well...then put mandrake back up , imho mandrake ubuntu slack ...all the same
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Draco_: i use no country code
[10:56] <Akuma_> gnome apps often specify keyboard shortcuts with <Control>, <Alt>, etc ... where can a get a list of those?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> did you try gb or uk?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> they are up the most
[10:56] <Draco_> I just select main in repositories havent changed anything else
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Draco_: look in /etc/apt/sources.list file to see what CC its using
[10:57] <Draco_> checking
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> Hey, i need help.
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> whats happening if: root@sawtooth:~# ps
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> PID TTY TIME CMD
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21414 pts/0 00:00:00 bash
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21783 pts/0 00:00:00 proc
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21786 pts/0 00:00:00 ps
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> root@sawtooth:~# kill -9 -1 21783
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> what is the result of killing proc?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> heeeeeoii: please use pastebin to paste
[10:57] <GigaClon> !paste
[10:57] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: i guess that's what i'll do. i'll do the mbr repair now and leave it for a while. thanks for your help.
[10:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> !paste root@sawtooth:~# ps
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> PID TTY TIME CMD
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21414 pts/0 00:00:00 bash
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21783 pts/0 00:00:00 proc
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21786 pts/0 00:00:00 ps
[10:57] <chuck____> =\
[10:58] <heeeeeoii> root@sawtooth:~# kill -9 -1 21783
[10:58] <VoX> USE THE PASTEBIN YOU TOOL
[10:58] <ompaul> VoX, not how we do it here
[10:58] <ompaul> !paste | heeeeeoii
[10:58] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: no problem
[10:58] <intelikey> in my package cache, why would an older version have a newer date ?
[10:58] <Draco_> gnomefreak, I dont see a country code anywhere ?
[10:58] <intelikey> libss2_1.38-2ubuntu1_i386.deb   33728  Aug 21  2006
[10:58] <intelikey> libss2_1.38-2ubuntu2_i386.deb   33768  May 12  2006
[10:58] <ubotu> heeeeeoii: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:59] <gnomefreak> Draco_: try adding gb and running update to see if it helps
[10:59] <gnomefreak> Draco_: need to open it with sudo/gksudo/kdesu
[10:59] <intelikey> that's not an isolated case ^  there are a lot of that sort of thing   ^   ???
[10:59] <Draco_> gnomefreak yup using sudo
[11:00] <Jack31> is an intel core solo, i686
[11:00] <Draco_> where does the country code go ?
[11:00] <heeeeeoii> !paste | heeeeeoii
[11:00] <ompaul> intelikey, no idea, file a bug
[11:00] <ompaul> heeeeeoii, stop
[11:00] <heeeeeoii> sorry!
[11:01] <heeeeeoii> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21953/ here is my text!
[11:01] <heeeeeoii> plz have a look it and tell me what the result will be! :)
[11:01] <tkr> hi. trying to set my LC_MONETARY etc locales to non-US (I like the english default language) but putting them to .profile doesnt seem to help. which is the correct place in ubuntu 7.04?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Draco_: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Draco_: it will look simular to that
[11:02] <Draco_> checking
[11:02] <gnomefreak> i only gave you the first part of the repo. leave security alone no CC is needed for them
[11:02] <tkr> anyone? this must be an easy question.
[11:02] <Gabz> gnomefreak: just send him to the sources list generator site ?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> Gabz: its out of date last i heard
[11:03] <ompaul> heeeeeoii, it is not funny
[11:04] <Draco_> should I be getting Index of /ubuntu for that url ?
[11:04] <chuck____> anyone feel like devoting some brainpower to helping me with this pure-ftpd problem?  I've been at this for hours now with hardly any progress
[11:04] <Gabz> gnomefreak: should be find for major countries. anyway with 7.04 you can do it all through gui and the select servers. button
[11:04] <Jack31> so, when i run the ubuntu low latency kernel, my wifi is non existant
[11:04] <Gabz> gnomefreak:  s/find/fine
[11:04] <rowland> hello folks, just a quickie.  Why aren't windows visible when opening first time in Feisty?
[11:04] <Jack31> the driver just isnt there
[11:05] <chuck____> =(
[11:05] <chuck____> meh
[11:05] <Gabz> Jack31:  they could of taken your drivers out of the kernel..
[11:05] <tkr> pretty please? :)
[11:05] <chuck____> pure-ftpd is doomed to be a broken wreck forever it seems
[11:05] <Draco_> my sources.list is the default one and it worked fine yesterday
[11:06] <Frogzoo> rowland: you mean you can see the desktop? try opening a terminal
[11:06] <MrC_> hello again
[11:06] <diego> tax soy diego buenos dias
[11:06] <jtmoney> anyone want to recommend a method or synchronizing files between an xp workstation (on 24/7) and a laptop running ubuntu? rsync the best way?
[11:06] <jtmoney> *method for
[11:06] <ompaul> !es | diego
[11:06] <ubotu> diego: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:06] <luna7kiss> does anyone know why i dont have spellcheck working on my ubuntu feisty?
[11:07] <rowland> Frogzoo:  I think it's just when I am using applications like firefox
[11:07] <jtmoney> luna7kiss: do you have the aspell package installed?
[11:07] <Draco_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.89.8 80] 
[11:07] <MrC_> i was wondering if do i need any kinda of Anti-Spy-ware for my Ubuntu.Do i need any program like that?
[11:07] <jtmoney> MrC_: nope
[11:07] <rowland> Frogzoo:  I open something and noi text, reduce it, maximise it again and hey presto it's there!
[11:07] <Frogzoo> jtmoney: there's an app in the repos called unison - you could use that to sync to a samba mount
[11:08] <Eevee1> hi
[11:08] <luna7kiss> whats the package called, i checked that i do have "myspell" package installed
[11:08] <MrC_> I am new with linux ,which do you guys/gals recommend
[11:08] <Gabz> Draco_: sounds like that server is down. or the link between you and that server is down
[11:08] <MrC_> ?
[11:08] <MrC_> Sorry if i need it
[11:08] <Frogzoo> !docs | MrC_
[11:08] <ubotu> MrC_: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[11:08] <MrC_> thx
[11:08] <jtmoney> Frogzoo: thanks
[11:08] <Jack31> how do i know what version of ubuntu i installed?
[11:08] <Jack31> like if its i386
[11:08] <Jack31> orwhat
[11:09] <GigaClon> uname
[11:09] <DaveTarmac> i'm having WPA problems with my feisty install. In the network icon on the top bar, I can see my wireless network, but i have no WPA options in order to connect to it. Without this connection I cannot access the internet in Ubuntu. My network card is D-Link G520+.
[11:09] <Draco_> Gabz, will try tomorrow then
[11:09] <luna7kiss> jtmoney, whats the package called, i checked and  do have "myspell" package installed, is there anything else i need to install?
[11:09] <spx2> is there any pageant for linux ?
[11:09] <DaveTarmac> I've looked on the forums, but can't find any solutions
[11:09] <GigaClon> Jack31, uname -a
[11:10] <Trig> Heya everyone, is it a must to have a ramdisk in Ubuntu, or is there an option to have some simple 'pagefile' for swapping memory?
[11:10] <chuck____> I can't get my WPA working either.  It's rather annoying
[11:10] <leotr> hi all. are there .deb files on ubuntu CDs?
[11:10] <Gabz> Draco_: i suggest you uses your countries local one but yeah try again tomorrow it's just a 404 not found error
[11:10] <Frogzoo> leotr: sure is
[11:10] <spx2> is there any pageant for linux ?
[11:10] <DaveTarmac> chuck____: you're telling me... do you have the same card?
[11:10] <Draco_> Gabz, I get that for main and for local unfortunately
[11:11] <spx2> is there a pageant in linux ?
[11:11] <GigaClon> !questions
[11:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:12] <leotr> Frogzoo: is it possible to install some ubuntu games (gnome) to kubuntu?
[11:12] <GigaClon> spx2 stop asking your question if anyone know they will answer
[11:12] <spx2> GigaClon: i think i might just have better chances for it to be answered
[11:12] <Trig> Heya everyone, is it a must to have a ramdisk in Ubuntu, or is there an option to have some simple 'pagefile' for swapping memory?
[11:12] <GigaClon> Trig i belive its is a must
[11:13] <spx2> Trig: at install you can set up a swap partition
[11:13] <Gabz> Draco_:  blame your ISP :p there is something wrong with your net connection which is preventing acess to the update server
[11:13] <luna7kiss> jtmoney, whats the package called, i checked and  do have "myspell" package installed, is there anything else i need to install?
[11:13] <Frogzoo> leotr: ask your questions to the chan, someone will know
[11:13] <luna7kiss> does anyone know why i dont have spellcheck working on my ubuntu feisty?
[11:13] <Draco_> Gabz, such a long list of people to blame anyways will wait till tomorrow
[11:13] <Trig> spix2: I know i can, but i asked do i have to? :P
[11:13] <tkr> ahh. sorry. forget about my question. I had just forgotten to export them in .profile. sigh :)
[11:14] <ccooke> Trig: Using a dedicated swap partition is faster and more efficient. However, the swap tools will work on anything - you can create a swapfile and tell the system to swap to it.
[11:14] <Gabz> Draco_:  pretty much, the problems of the internet every one between you and the server are to blame.
[11:14] <Trig> ccooke, thanks a lot :)
[11:15] <Frogzoo> spx2: apt-cache search pageant
[11:15] <Frogzoo> Trig: you can use ramdisks for swap, and it's actually very nice
[11:16] <ccooke> Trig: the tools you're after are: mkswap ('formats' a file into swap space), swapon and swapoff (which tells the system to use an existing swap area as swap space)
[11:16] <Frogzoo> Trig: you can run without any swap completely, I don't think it's recommended but people do strange things
[11:20] <neutralrobotboy> hmm... well, that didn't quite do it.
[11:20] <jtmoney> what can i use to mount a windows share across the network?
[11:20] <jtmoney> i.e. xp has the share, ubuntu is accessing it
[11:21] <Burnwood> Hey.
[11:21] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: are you still around?
[11:21] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: yes
[11:21] <SlimeyPete> jtmoney: samba. google for details on how to mount a samba share. I think you might be able to do it graphically in Gnome these days.
[11:21] <Burnwood> I'm on the Ubuntu livecd part. Can I install Ubuntu to an NTFS partition?
[11:21] <jtmoney> i thought samba created a share on the linux box?
[11:21] <jtmoney> Burnwood: no, but you can resize an ntfs partition
[11:21] <jtmoney> (from the install cd)
[11:21] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: the windows recovery console's "fixboot" didn't do it. "fixmbr" tells me i might lose my partition table. this would be extremely bad.
[11:22] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: is there any chance at all of me being able to boot windows from grub?
[11:22] <Burnwood> I can? I've got an NTFS partition with 20GB free space, using the LiveCD can I cut 5GB out of it or so and format+dedicate that to Ubuntu?
[11:22] <LordKratos> I already have Linux 6.06 installed, and I'm running the 7.04 on the live CD. Since there isn't any other way I can install this new one (due to deleting the graphical interface of 6.06) I was wondering if I could just delete the "ext3" partition of the old one, and make a new one with this CD. Will it work?
[11:22] <jtmoney> Burnwood: yeah, that would work
[11:24] <LordKratos> So, can anyone help?
[11:24] <CheshireViking> Burnwood, just make sure you've got a backup of the partition (assuming there's anything on it you want to keep) before you start changing paritions, you should be able to repartition by shrinking the 20gb and using the free'd space to install
[11:24] <Rage_> LordKratos: Linux 6.06 does not exist yet. You mean Ubuntu.
[11:24] <Burnwood> hmm, I opened gparted but my HDD has a padlock icon on it
[11:24] <salaah> whats the channel for beryleffects problems?
[11:24] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, I don't understand your question.
[11:24] <tokj> salaah: #ubuntu-effects
[11:25] <salaah> thank u
[11:25] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: use format /mbr
[11:25] <dawn_chorus> Burnwood, if you're wanting to resize the Ubuntu partition, you'll have to use a LiveCD.  You cannot resize a mounted partition.
[11:25] <FearMoth> I've installed Ubuntu with just the base command-line installation. Is there any package that I can install to get a LAMP setup going?
[11:26] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: that isn't available.
[11:26] <Miso> I'm getting a red blocked connection in firestarter right before losing my internet connection
[11:26] <jtmoney> isn't there a command like grub-update?
[11:26] <jtmoney> it's been a while since i toyed with grub
[11:26] <dawn_chorus> jtmoney, yes.
[11:26] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: make it available
[11:26] <jtmoney> you could always fixmbr then boot off the livecd and then grub-update
[11:26] <neutralrobotboy> spx2:  the /mbr switch doesn't work with format in my recovery console.
[11:26] <LordKratos> I have Ubuntu 6.06 installed on my computer. I tired to install Beryl a few weeks ago, but I deleted some stuff, and now when I start up 6.06, all I see is text. I got the Ubuntu 7.04 a few days ago, but without an interface in 6.06, I can't do much. I'm using 7.04 off the live CD. I was wondering if I could just delete the old partitions of Ubuntu 6.06 and make new ones for 7.04 to work.
[11:26] <jtmoney> neutralrobotboy: yeah, it doesn't have that command
[11:27] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: google for it
[11:27] <jtmoney> fixmbr, fixboot
[11:27] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: there is a format /mbr
[11:27] <jtmoney> the recovery console is SEVERLY limited
[11:27] <neutralrobotboy> jtmoney: what would grub-update do?
[11:27] <MrC_> other question that i have about Linux is Do i need any kinda of security software for Linux?
[11:27] <jtmoney> spx2: you're thinking dos
[11:27] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: get hirens boot cd and work your way
[11:27] <spx2> jtmoney: im thinking hirens boot cd
[11:27] <jtmoney> MrC_: not really, although ubuntu comes with no firewall by default
[11:27] <spx2> jtmoney: or a boot disquetet , disket
[11:27] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, yes you could do that.  you could simply overwrite the data on the existing partitions, too.
[11:28] <LeventO> hi all, i've done something stupid, i mounted one partition at /media when i was installing, i now have trouble using this partition, and i want to mount it somewhere else but cant figure out how, gnome partition manager is giving me an error when i try to unmount in...
[11:28] <jtmoney> neutralrobotboy: can you copy/paste your original problem?
[11:28] <neutralrobotboy> jtmoney: it gave me a warning that fixmbr might screw with my partition table.
[11:28] <dawn_chorus> MrC_, you may want something to scan emails, so you don't pass anything along to friends who use Windows.
[11:28] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: So I can just delete the "ext3" partition and make a new one?
[11:28] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Because the linux-swap doesn't seem to be deletedable
[11:28] <MrC_> so,should install a firewall then?
[11:28] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, well, it'd be simpler to simply format the existing partition.  you'll get the same effect.
[11:28] <jtmoney> MrC_: only if you don't have a hardware one (router)
[11:28] <MrC_> which one should i install?
[11:29] <dawn_chorus> MrC_, you alread have one.  iptables.
[11:29] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  How do I do that?
[11:29] <jtmoney> neutralrobotboy: fixmbr will prevent grub from loading
[11:29] <MrC_> ok
[11:29] <neutralrobotboy> jtmoney: basically i tried to install ubuntu, and when i boot up, grub neither boots ubuntu (says it can't recognize the partition), nor gives booting windows as an option.
[11:29] <Madpilot> MrC_, there is a firewall built in to Ubuntu, and already running. Firestarter and such are just control panels
[11:29] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: i suggest you use the classic tool wich is format. see for yourself here
[11:29] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: http://expert.mandriva.com/question/1495
[11:29] <MrC_> ok thx
[11:29] <jtmoney> neutralrobotboy: yeah, that's a little over my head... listen to spx2 ;)
[11:29] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, when you edit the ext3 partition within GParted (or whatever), there will be a "Format partition?" option.  choose "Yes."
[11:29] <jtmoney> grub-update MIGHT fix it
[11:30] <MrC_> for we are decades in front of Windows users?
[11:30] <LordKratos> Yes.
[11:30] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: Yes. The option is there.
[11:30] <Burnwood> Weird, when I unmount my partition Ubuntu auto-remounts it, how do I get that to stop?
[11:30] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, right on.  there's really no point in recreating the partition. just format it and mount it to / .
[11:30] <MrC_> Why da reck do they still uses Windows if it is crap?
[11:30] <MrC_> and unsafe
[11:30] <FearMoth> What packages do I need to install a preconfigured Apache/MySQL/PHP server? Is there any metapackage in Feisty?
[11:30] <heeeeeoii> How do i use findcommand to NOT serach in /tmp but everywhere else??
[11:31] <dawn_chorus> MrC_, some people have to use it for their work.  some people are just dumb.
[11:31] <MrC_> like me before
[11:31] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: i'm a bit worried about this because i'm not using win98...
[11:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, lamp | FearMoth
[11:31] <ubotu> FearMoth: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:31] <Burnwood> Anyone?
[11:31] <jtmoney> Burnwood: you need to boot from a livecd
[11:31] <jtmoney> or use knoppix
[11:31] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: well i was using xp when i solved my problem this way
[11:31] <dawn_chorus> MrC_, and some people, like me, choose to use it because they like some software that's available.  I have a laptop with XP dedicated to nothing but audio editing.
[11:31] <Burnwood> I am on a LiveCD.
[11:31] <MrC_> moved to Linux for good and trying to bring some with me
[11:31] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Hold on. "Format to" is what you were talking about, right?
[11:31] <samiloop> hi. is there a administrative tool in ubuntu that lets you configure multiple monitors and an extended desktop ? after installing the nvidia restricted drivers, the two screens went a bit funny...
[11:32] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: did you have a non-standard partition table? this is what it warns me about with fixmbr...
[11:32] <MrC_> ok fair enough
[11:32] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, yeah.  that'll work.
[11:32] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: dude , have you read what i gave you , if you would have read what i gave you at this link ericx_2 d.louie
[11:32] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: I'm not given a "/" option.
[11:32] <spx2> Incident Number	1495
[11:32] <LeventO> how do i manually unmount a partition
[11:33] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you cannot set a mount point?  not a format option, but a "mount to" option?
[11:33] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: http://www.mandrivaexpert.com/showarchive.php?arc=1495
[11:33] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: you should have solved your problem by now
[11:33] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, oh, nevermind.  that'll come when you actually install 7.04.  :)
[11:33] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  The only thing I see is "unmount" and it can't be selected.
[11:33] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: ...ok. i read that. i guess i'll try it.
[11:33] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: also look here http://forums.pcworld.co.nz/archive/index.php/t-20397.html
[11:33] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, yeah.  that's normal.
[11:34] <jericho> hey guys... how do i use a .run file?
[11:34] <johns^> jericho: most likely ./nameoffile.run
[11:34] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: I can let you take control of the computer if you'd like. I'm not very good with directions...
[11:35] <johns^> jericho: or sh nameoffile.run
[11:35] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, what?  let me take control?  what do you mean?
[11:35] <Burnwood> How do I get ubuntu to stop auto-mounting partitions?
[11:35] <Miso> my firewall is blocking a port 53 dns 192.168.2.1 icmp connection and then i lose my internet connection until i reset the modem and router
[11:35] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Let you um, control my desktop. As in, move things around, click, etc.
[11:35] <LeventO> hello, anyone know how i can manually unmount a partition
[11:35] <johns^> Burnwood: edit /etc/fstab add ,no-auto after 'default' on the partitions you don't want autoounted
[11:36] <johns^> LeventO: umount /mount/point
[11:36] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, well, I've never done that before, but ... I'm willing to try, I guess.  :/
[11:36] <mc44> Burnwood: System->preferences->Removable Drives and Media
[11:36] <LordKratos> Ok.
[11:36] <Miso> it happens every few hours
[11:36] <DaveTarmac> ok, I give up. which wifi card chipsets are natively supported with WPA support in Feisty?
[11:36] <jericho> ok... thanks... sh (filename) did the trick
[11:37] <MrC_> i am looking for a weather widget for my feisty fawn.Does any knows a good one?
[11:37] <dawn_chorus> !wifi | DaveTarmac
[11:37] <ubotu> DaveTarmac: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:38] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  I seem to have forgotten how... So can you proceed with helping?
[11:38] <LeventO> johns^, so if i were to unmount the partition mounted at /media: umount /media, should do it? because that gives me an error, possibly because it the /media folder which all removable drives mount into...
[11:38] <heeeeeoii> How do i use findcommand to NOT serach in /tmp but everywhere else??
[11:39] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, sure.
[11:39] <johns^> LeventO: nou you have to unmount the individual drives.
[11:39] <johns^> or use a umount -a
[11:39] <LeventO> what does the -a do?
[11:39] <johns^> unmounts all the partitions that are not in use
[11:40] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  So what shall I do with my ext3 partition?
[11:41] <babo> My firefox freezes all of the time. It practically times out, hogs 100% of CPU for 2-3 mins when I do something simple like click on the gmail settings on the igoogle page ...
[11:41] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, are you actually installing from the LiveCD now?
[11:41] <babo> sometimes it comes back after a while. Sometimes it doesn't.
[11:41] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  I'm running Ubuntu off the CD, not installing it.
[11:41] <babo> it doesn't crash X, but I can't bring the firefox window back up.
[11:41] <babo> why is that ?
[11:42] <fatal_> looks like the first dell models to ship with ubuntu are (unofficially) announced.... sad to see the laptop having an ATI Radeon X1400 which doesn't have any free drivers (not even 2D AFAIK)..... does anyone know of an effort to get dell to put their pressure on ati to release specs for their newer cards?....
[11:42] <LeventO> johns^, thanks, that did the trick, now how do i remount all my removable drives?
[11:42] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, well, the most you'll be able to do at this point is format it.
[11:42] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  What shall I reformat it to?
[11:43] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, ext3.
[11:43] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: It's already ext3
[11:43] <tarelerulz> I used ndiswrapper to install my wireless card and I can't get my wireless connection at all.
[11:44] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, right.  it's not really worth bothering with until you install though.  what you're wanting to do is wipe the partition.  formatting it will do that.
[11:44] <mc44> babo: maybe a bug in firefox, maybe a bug in an extenstion you have
[11:44] <jmg_> hey all
[11:44] <LordKratos> Ok, so I've hit "Format to" "ext3" and now it's got an operation pending. Do I hit apply?
[11:44] <babo> mc44: right. how do I find out more about a running process ?
[11:45] <jmg_> anyone know how to stop a laptop trying to resume from hibernation? i think its fscking mine.
[11:45] <mc44> babo: what more do you want to find out?
[11:45] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you got it.
[11:45] <babo> ldd gives me the linked libs ... what are the other program tools ? There's a tool that will monitor the system calls ? What's that called again ?
[11:45] <zmo> babo: strace
[11:46] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  An error occurred.
[11:46] <babo> zmo: right. thanks.
[11:46] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, what error?
[11:47] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  /dev/hda3 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!
[11:47] <LeventO> what is the command to create a folder?
[11:47] <h4wk0> mkdir
[11:47] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, oh yeah.
[11:47] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you can unmount it, right?
[11:48] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Well, after I closed the error, all partitions have a lock, and the ext3 one now says "Unknown".
[11:48] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, that means it's time to go ahead and install. :)
[11:48] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: But now it has the "unmount" option
[11:48] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Ah
[11:49] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Now what do I do?
[11:49] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, there should be a "install to hard drive" or similar button on your desktop.
[11:50] <danny3793> can someone help me with a problem in FF? it keeps crashing when i try to view flash things, i have flash installed, i let FF do it...any idea why it freezes each time i do try to do stuff with flash, like play my playlist on Imeem
[11:50] <LordKratos> dawn Yes
[11:50] <anathematic> how do i c heck if i have the 64 or the 32 bit ubuntu on my box? (i can't remember which one i put on)
[11:50] <babo> are there any other process tools besides strace and ldd ?
[11:51] <babo> ... and ps and top
[11:51] <danny3793> babo: htop is pretty nice
[11:51] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, double click that bad boy.  and off you go!
[11:51] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Hehe. I've gotten to the Prepare disk space part. Now what?
[11:51] <foo> Hm, I am dragging an mp3 file into k3b for a music CD and it's saying an unsupported format. Any ideas?
[11:52] <MrC_> soon on linux http://www.chinwong.com/index.php/site/article/widgets_for_linux/
[11:52] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, uh ... memory's a bit rusty.  Could you post a screenshot perhaps?
[11:52] <CheshireViking> foo, you need to download a codec to enable k3b to convert mp3's to cd format
[11:52] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: How do I do that?
[11:52] <CheshireViking> foo, i'm not sure which it is off the top of my head though
[11:52] <LordKratos> Oh
[11:53] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Hold on
[11:53] <amorphous_> hi. Could anybody tell me - if I ping an IP address (cable connection) is it the modem that replies or does it get forwarded to the PC to reply?
[11:53] <bonii> I am running Feisty with Postgresql 8.2 and Python 2.5. Now I want to interface postgres from python so I need to install Pygresql is it available as a package or is there another alternative??
[11:53] <foo> CheshireViking: Yeah, that's what I figured. Hm, let me check apt-cache.
[11:54] <samiloop> hi. does gnome support dual monitors in any way?
[11:54] <mjr> amorphous_, usually cable modems are just media converters, so to the PC, but if your particular one acts as a NAT router or something, then not
[11:54] <CheshireViking> foo, sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[11:54] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: Here you go. http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7213/screenshotck7.png
[11:54] <CheshireViking> foo, i think that should solve the problem
[11:54] <bonii> I am running Feisty with Postgresql 8.2 and Python 2.5. Now I want to interface postgres from python so I need to install Pygresql is it available as a package or is there another alternative??
[11:54] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, choose "manual">
[11:54] <guest> cbnxcbn
[11:55] <foo> CheshireViking: libk3b2-mp3
[11:55] <foo> CheshireViking: err, you beat me :)
[11:55] <gu355wh0> guys, how can i do switching between english layout and my own language layout... i add my language but don't know how to switch
[11:55] <foo> CheshireViking: Thanks
[11:55] <foo> CheshireViking: And that did work..
[11:55] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Now it took me to "Prepare Partitions"
[11:55] <LeventO> what is the command to copy a file?
[11:55] <CheshireViking> foo, your welcome
[11:55] <LordKratos> I can edit, delete, or undo changes to partitions.
[11:55] <gu355wh0> LeventO, cp
[11:55] <LeventO> thanks
[11:55] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, um .. I guess ... another screenie?
[11:56] <amorphous_> only I'm getting reports of a mchine not abe to check email or go 'into' websites beyond the first page. The machine is remote to me and I cant seem to ping it. mjr - the modem goes into a router then the pc (the router is wireless but the pc is eth wired into it). The ping sommand is giving no output but also not giving up (no errors etc). Would that be normal
[11:56] <amorphous_> ?
[11:56] <andcor> Anyone familiar with the problem latex has with multibib and captions ?
[11:56] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9586/screenshot1qe1.png
[11:57] <spx2> does ubuntu really expect me to recompile the kernel so that i get suspend/hibernate/sleep function for my laptop ?
[11:57] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you'll select /dev/hda3, "edit partition".  make it ext3 and set the mount point to / .  also, you'll want to click the format option.
[11:57] <Draconicus> brb
[11:57] <spx2> LordKratos: who's diana ? :P
[11:58] <danny3793> is there anything i can do about each time flash tries to play a sound, it freezes my FF..?
[11:58] <amorphous_> mjr - would a router in before the pc constitute NAT? I'm assuming not and the the router would just forward it... that right?
[11:58] <spx2> does ubuntu really expect me to recompile the kernel so that i get suspend/hibernate/sleep function for my laptop ?
[11:58] <dawn_chorus> spx2, kernel recompilation is easy as pie.  don't be scared.
 Ubuntu does not at all expect you to recompile your kernel
[11:58] <spx2> dawn_chorus: right..and i'm jojo the clown
[11:58] <amorphous_> spx2 - kernel comile is not as scary as it sounds...
[11:58] <LordKratos> spx2:  She's my girlfriend.
[11:58] <john_watson> How to use scanner in ubuntu?
[11:59] <dawn_chorus> spx2, whatever.
[11:59] <spx2> LordKratos: so you came here to brag abount your gf ?
[11:59] <gu355wh0> how can i do switching between english layout and my own language layout ?
[11:59] <Chousuke> spx2: it is easy, really.
[11:59] <Chousuke> spx2: it's the configuration that most people get wrong
[11:59] <spx2> Chousuke: ofcourse
[11:59] <LordKratos> spx2:  No...
[11:59] <andcor> but, you will have to understand that they can't make an kernel that fixes all the problems at one time
[11:59] <john_watson> How to use scanner in ubuntu?
[11:59] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Dawn, the mount point doesn't have an option.
[11:59] <andcor> Anyone familiar with the problem latex has with multibib and captions ?
[12:00] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Is that normal?
[12:00] <Chousuke> spx2: the only command you need to compile the kernel is "make" :P
[12:00] <spx2> andcor: right..tahts why windows kernel can be patched...modified on the fly without needing recompiling...
[12:00] <amorphous_> mjr: sorry - were if they were silly questions, but I'm still trying to get to grips with the networking thing. :/
[12:00] <danny3793> can someone help me with flash freezing FF to where i have to "force quit" it
[12:00] <Chousuke> spx2: that's false
[12:00] <andcor> spx2: right. And if it's windows you want, then don't install linux
[12:00] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, no?  hm ... another screenie?
[12:01] <Chousuke> spx2: no-one modifies the windows kernel without recompiling it
[12:01] <andcor> spx2: it isn't the same
[12:01] <Chousuke> spx2: the windows devs just supply you a precompiled kernel image that has the faults patched.
[12:01] <spx2> Chousuke andcor you both dont know squat about what you're talking about right?
[12:01] <Chousuke> spx2: I do.
[12:01] <mjr> amorphous_, again it really depends on if the router does nat or if it's a plain router
[12:02] <Chousuke> You appear not to :(
[12:02] <pianoboy3333> I'm looking for the old english font that comes standard on windows boxes, I can't seem to find it on my windows box, and I really need it for this project, can anyone dcc it to me, or tell me how I can get it? I believe it's called Old English Text MS
[12:02] <wam> Hi, I upgraded from edge to feisty an now it hangs on boot saying "starting early crypto disks". I have some crypted partitions which are mounted by pam when a user logs in. They should not be mounted at boot time. When I hit Enter when feisty hangs on boot, it continues. How can I fix this?
[12:02] <spx2> Chousuke andcor i just realised i'm talking to some total noobletz
[12:02] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5559/screenshot2oe4.png
[12:02] <mc44> !noob | spx2
[12:02] <ubotu> spx2: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:02] <mjr> amorphous_, so with this info, there's no definite answer
[12:02] <Chousuke> though I suppose the patches could contain just a binary delta
[12:02] <andcor> spx2: sure i do, I just can't stand that everyone is comparing linux with windows
[12:03] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, there's nothing in the Mount point drop down list?
[12:03] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Exactly.
[12:03] <andcor> spx2: It isn't the same, linux is free, and therefore you can't expect them to do all the work for you
[12:03] <CheshireViking> !offtopic
[12:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <spx2> andcor: w/e
[12:03] <ubuntubeginz> any of u guys wat the memtesting thing is about,,,before boot in at grub loader...
[12:03] <Chousuke> spx2: if you are suggesting that it is sane to try to fix any fault in the windows kernel without access to the source (and thus recompiling it), you're just wrong
[12:03] <danny3793> andcor: people compare all the time, including windows to mac, windows to any linux distro, and windows distros to other window distros..
[12:03] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, that's weird.  try formatting it first and then go back to see if it'll give you a mount point.  or maybe it'll do it automatically.
[12:03] <amorphous_> mjr: sorry - it's a normal high st router.. only setting not default is ssh forwarding, and that's been fine up until now. Users can use google but cannot go into sites any deeper. - they are also locked down (pessulus) so dont see how they could have messed with software - they have no admin rights...
[12:03] <Burnwood> hm, you can't install ubuntu onto a fat32 partition? damn
[12:04] <andcor> danny3793: I know. but it's wrong
[12:04] <spx2> Chousuke: w/e
[12:04] <yell0w> ubuntubeginz, test your physical memory
[12:04] <andcor> danny3793: If it's windows you wan't, then it is an mistake to install linux
[12:04] <c> Hi Newbie here, running feisty . I have set up XGL and Beryl and when I right click the beryl manager and try to change to beryl all my widow title-bar's disappear any hints on how to fix this thanks
[12:04] <spx2> people here should be voiced so that i know who are and aren't noobletz in here,dont loose my time talking to them...
[12:04] <tondar> anyone here has demonoid account?
[12:05] <mc44> spx2: please drop the attitude
[12:05] <dawn_chorus> c, try alt+f2.  type in 'emerald --replace'
[12:05] <BoY_14> some girl????
[12:05] <mc44> !piracy | tondar
[12:05] <ubotu> tondar: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:05] <danny3793> andcor: how is it wrong? comparing things goes down to the littlest things, such as shoes, what to wear, saying to compare a few OS's is wrong, is like saying people shouldnt figure out what to wear..
[12:05] <Chousuke> spx2: Trolls aren't welcome here.
[12:05] <Chousuke> spx2: please leave.
[12:05] <amorphous_> spx - so traffic & knowledge is only one way with you...?
[12:05] <tondar> np
[12:05] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  I can select the format thing. What should I do?
[12:05] <ubuntubeginz> yell0w: test as in... whether by Ram is working... btw, can i click memtesting now ( the thing is that i have installed my ubuntu oredi), it wont messup anything if i clik memtesting now rite..
[12:06] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, just go ahead and format the partition.  we'll deal with the mount point in a moment.
[12:06] <andcor> danny3793: That's right, but if you compare to such different things as linux and windows, then it is bound to go wring
[12:06] <andcor> wrong
[12:06] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: Sorry. I meant to say "Can't"
[12:06] <exs> what does AM2 mean on amd processors?
[12:06] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: right.  And even if you accidentally clicked the "install" options, it'd be a while before you messed anything up anyway. (youd have to go a few steps into an install)
[12:06] <LeventO> how do i start filebrowser with superuser access?
[12:06] <mc44> LeventO: gksudo nautilus
[12:07] <LeventO> thanks
[12:07] <dawn_chorus> LeventO, that's not recommended, but it's what mc44 said.
[12:07] <andcor> danny3793: If you start using linux with the attitude that you want anything to be like in windows, then you can't enjoy all the good things about linux
[12:07] <LeventO> just need to copy somefiles
[12:07] <ubuntubeginz> Flannel: Ok dokie,dude...
[12:07] <dawn_chorus> LeventO, just be careful.
[12:07] <Chousuke> andcor: the point spx2 was trying to make seems completely wrong anyway. :P
[12:08] <mc44> windows vs linux = offtopic for here, please :)
[12:08] <amorphous_> mjr: sorry - it's a normal high st router.. only setting not default is ssh forwarding, and that's been fine up until now. Users can use google but cannot go into sites any deeper. - they are also locked down (pessulus) so dont see how they could have messed with software - they have no admin rights...
[12:08] <amorphous_> Ooops... sorry... rpted by mistake...
[12:08] <amorphous_>  :?
[12:08] <andcor> Chousuke: right
[12:08] <amorphous_> :/
[12:08] <danny3793> andcor: right, i came to ubuntu from windows XP, and at first it did seem a bit tough to get things going and such, but i dont mind having to put alittle bit of effort into something, especially when i get to do it through terminal :P
[12:09] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  So I can't click on the "format?" square next to the partition
[12:09] <yell0w> geez folks this' ubuntu support channel, not #bash-one-another-s-whatever
[12:09] <clarkey>  Hi Newbie here, running feisty . I have set up XGL and Beryl and when I right click the beryl manager and try to change to beryl all my widow title-bar's disappear any hints on how to fix this thanks
[12:09] <Burnwood> i'm installing ubuntu now, i rightclicked my secondary file-backup disk/partition and said "use as... dontuse". that means ubuntu won't even touch it, right?
[12:10] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you can't format the partition?
[12:10] <danny3793> clarkey: i know exactly whats wrong with ya :P, here lemme get you the pastebin link so you can paste your xorg.conf
[12:10] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Nope.
[12:10] <andcor> danny3793: exactly, what I think is wrong is for people to come here and demand that the ubuntu people makes their computer work as if there was windows on it
[12:10] <clarkey> thanks
[12:10] <LeventO> can cp copy folders as well as just files?
[12:10] <dawn_chorus> LeventO, yes.
[12:11] <ubuntubeginz> clarkey:btw, ur graphic card is ATI or Nvidia
[12:11] <andcor> LeventO: sure - cp -r
[12:11] <danny3793> andcor: yeah, that does get annoying, but those people are the lazy ones who dont want to learn anything about their computer, and they normally end up going back to windows as they found Linux not as "user friendly" as they would have liked for it to have been :P
[12:11] <Burnwood> Anyone? Does 'dontuse' mean Ubuntu won't touch it, or will it rape the disk?
[12:11] <clarkey> ATI mobility
[12:11] <dawn_chorus> Burnwood, dontuse should be fine.
[12:11] <Burnwood> thanks, :)
[12:11] <danny3793> clarkey: alright, i need you to go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , and paste your xorg.conf, which can be found in /etc/X11/, you can open it up with your Text Editor (GEdit)
[12:12] <andcor> danny3793: right
[12:12] <SlimeyPete> clarkey: install & run beryl-manager. Right-click on the red diamon which appears in your taskbar. Select a window manager and a window decorator ("Emerald" is the decorator)
[12:12] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, I'm not sure what's going on dude.  :(  How old is your hard drive?
[12:12] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: A few months old.
[12:12] <danny3793> slimeypete: his title bars are disappearing :P
[12:12] <clarkey> ok 1 sec
[12:12] <danny3793> slimeypete: he already has beryl and the manager
[12:12] <SlimeyPete> danny3793: yes. Those are handled by the window decorator.
[12:12] <LeventO> somehow cp doesn't want to copy files from a network location, it gives me an error: cp: cannot stat `smb://networkpc': No such file or directory
[12:13] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, hmm ... and you can't edit the partition, you can't format it.  I have no clue what's going on.
[12:13] <SlimeyPete> danny3793: I get no title bars when I boot. I have to turn the decorator on manually.
[12:13] <SlimeyPete> that fixes the problem.
[12:13] <tondar> any fifa type game for ubuntu?
[12:13] <jscinoz> Hey guys, whenever my GPU reaches 100% load or runs out of graphical ram it locks up with graphical artifacts all over the screen and i have to do a hard reboot, this happens quite often as i only have 64mb of graphical ram, is there a fix to this problem?
[12:13] <jimwhimpey> I have an old box with Ubuntu installed, I've reintalled about 10 times in the past and my WiFi card has always worked out of the box, this time it doesn't
[12:13] <mc44> SlimeyPete: you can just add it to your sessions settings to get it to run automatically
[12:13] <danny3793> slimeypete: have you added "AddARGBGLXVisuals" to your xorg?
[12:13] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Oh wow. After I hit "Use as" and chose "ext3" it marked the "Format?"
[12:14] <SlimeyPete> mc44: yeah, I know... I tried doing that myself but it didn't work.
[12:14] <clarkey> danny3973 ok posted under clarkey
[12:14] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, cool.
[12:14] <SlimeyPete> danny3793: I think so. Tbh, I'm actually finding that I prefer not having title bars.
[12:14] <mc44> SlimeyPete: meh, beryl sucks :P
[12:14] <SlimeyPete> they're kinda pointless.
[12:14] <danny3793> clarkey: gotta give me the link :P
[12:14] <MrC_> is it there any program for ubuntu/kubuntu to defragment or to clean memory from old,unused files ?
[12:14] <exs> can I download ubuntu 7.04 and have all the updated files?
[12:14] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Now what do I do? Do I hit "forward"?
[12:14] <dawn_chorus> exs, you may want a net install.
[12:14] <SlimeyPete> MrC_: you don't need to defragment in Linux.
[12:14] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, right on.
[12:14] <orbin> jscinoz: what card and driver?
[12:15] <LeventO> how do i copy from a network location (smb://
[12:15] <jscinoz> Nvidia Geforce go5200, nvidia driver 9755
[12:15] <ubuntubeginz> hi, at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ..under the syntax drop down list, i saw a language called BrainFuck... OMG...wat a language... damn funny man.. :D
[12:15] <happytron> hi, my internet keeps crapping out
[12:15] <danny3793> clarkey: nvm got it :P
[12:15] <clarkey> Slimey pete Emerald isnt a choic in my menue only GTK and Heliodor
[12:15] <tondar> fifa for ubuntu?
[12:15] <exs> dawn_chorus:  how do you do a net install?
[12:15] <happytron> /etc/init.d/networking restart helps
[12:15] <mailfaker> Venez ecouter et telecharger gratuitement et sans inscription de la musique sur http://gonutz.free.fr  (site garantit sans popup)
[12:15] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Once again I get an error... "No root file system is defined.
[12:15] <LordKratos> Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[12:15] <happytron> but i have to do it like every 5 minutes
[12:15] <SlimeyPete> clarkey: then you don't have Emerald installed - that's your problem. Install it via synaptic.
[12:15] <happytron> anyone have any ideas?
[12:15] <ubuntubeginz> tondar: get cedaga
[12:15] <CheshireViking> !install > exs, see the private message from ubotu
[12:15] <dawn_chorus> exs, it's a CD.  you pop it in the tray and you download the packages from the internet instead of from a CD.
[12:16] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, right.  that means that you need to mount /dev/sda3 to / .
[12:16] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: Oh. Done.
[12:16] <clarkey> danny3937 soory newbie here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21961/
[12:16] <Ronald|Laptop> Postfix+Sasl problem: warning: SASL authentication failure: no secret in database warning: unknown[192.168.0.33] : SASL CRAM-MD5 authentication failed: authentication failure / sasl smtpd.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21950/
[12:16] <exs>  is 7.04 good?.. i am giving it to a friend.. i use 6
[12:16] <SlimeyPete> exs: I like it.
[12:16] <tondar> ubuntubeginz: oh really will it work?
[12:17] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  I'll send a screenshot just to make sure I'm doing things right.
[12:17] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, ok.
[12:17] <exs> where is the 7.04 dvd version?
[12:17] <ubuntubeginz> tondar: not sure for fifa, can install warcraft though... :)..wait i chk for u..
[12:17] <tondar> ubuntubeginz: thanks
[12:17] <Moniker42> hey, startup problem
[12:17] <Moniker42> it's someone i know that's got it...
[12:18] <Moniker42> they get the ubuntu splash screen
[12:18] <danny3793> clarkey: ok, go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21964/ , scroll to the bottom right click inside the box, select all and copy what is in there, then go to Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal, type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", once that has opened, right click in gedit, and select all then paste and save the file
[12:18] <douglas__> I need help getting kdevelop to work I get error 77 c++ cannot create executables
[12:18] <Moniker42> then apparently it "freezes" then goes into a black screen with writing on it
[12:18] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Here: http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7392/screenshot5hs7.png
[12:18] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, perfect.
[12:18] <bobbo> I installed KDE on my Standard Ubuntu (GNOME) computer using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and i tried to remove it using sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop but the boot screen shows Kubuntu, KDE is still in the sessions menu and all of the KDE apps still exist. How cn i get rid of KDE from my system?
[12:19] <perl_contract> hi folks. I'm a long time linux user, but first time playing with ubuntu. when you boot into the live environment, do you pick packages first then do install to install them? or how does picking packages work?
[12:19] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  So now I just procceed?
[12:19] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, right on dude.
[12:19] <dawn_chorus> bobbo, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[12:19] <danny3793> dawn_chorus: does gnome partition editor screw up your computer? im thinking of splitting up my main partition into two
[12:19] <Ronald|Laptop> perl_contract: no picking. just install a proper system
[12:20] <perl_contract> weird.
[12:20] <perl_contract> then you install more/deinstall packages after install?
[12:20] <clarkey> Danny3793 done it
[12:20] <dawn_chorus> danny3793, it can.  depends on what you do.  if you step over critical files, it'll bork it.  but as long as you do what's safe, you'll be fine.
[12:20] <bobbo> dawn_chorus  - you are an absolute legend
[12:20] <dawn_chorus> bobbo, naw dude.
[12:20] <Flannel> perl_contract: if you want to choose to build-up instead of strip down, get the alternate CD, and install a "server" install on there (just a minimal installation sans GUI), then add stuff
[12:20] <clarkey> dann3793 anything more?
[12:21] <danny3793> clarkey: ok now hit CTRL-ALT-Backspace, this will restart your X server, and cause you to logout, log back in and your title bars should be back
[12:21] <xerophyte> ERROR: Command "/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT" Failed what is this error means ?
[12:21] <danny3793> dawn_chorus: im thinking of taking some free space and turning it into a partition, just incase i decide to install a second OS or something :P
[12:22] <clarkey> danny3793 thanks a lot mate I really struggled with this thanks 4 ur help
[12:22] <dawn_chorus> danny3793, right on.  I've got partitions enough for five OS's right now. :)
[12:22] <ubuntubeginz> tondar: hei , found the #cedega channel...maybe U can ask there...
[12:22] <perl_contract> one more question about installation. I already have Windows XP on the first partition and am installing ubuntu after that. but grub just shows "boot stage 1.5" then hangs on boot. any ideas?
[12:22] <danny3793> clarkey: np, dont thank me till you make sure it works :P
[12:22] <Stormx2> xerophyte: How did you get to that error?
[12:22] <danny3793> dawn_chorus: nice, :P, whats the apt-get install command for gnome partition editor?
[12:22] <Frogzoo> xerophyte: s/-m state/-m conntrack/
[12:22] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Now it's asking if I want to import any accounts from Windows. Should I?
[12:22] <Carb0n> hi, I installed feisty a day ago and am bugged with some weird queries
[12:22] <clarkey> danny3793 yeah true that mate brb checkin it now
[12:23] <dawn_chorus> danny3793, i think you want gparted.  sudo apt-get install gparted
[12:23] <Frogzoo> xerophyte: oh no
[12:23] <danny3793> dawn_chorus: kk thanks :)
[12:23] <xerophyte> Frogzoo, ??
[12:23] <Carb0n> I was previously running Dapper, and now Feisty is completely a new beast
[12:23] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, yeah. that works pretty good.  by the way, you're going to want to close your other programs while you install.
[12:23] <Ronald|Laptop> how do you manage startup services on feisty server?
[12:24] <Carb0n> Any idea why my Hitachi ATA harddisk is being shown as /dev/sda?
[12:24] <mc44> !init | Ronald|Laptop
[12:24] <ubotu> Ronald|Laptop: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:24] <Ronald|Laptop> Carb0n: thats normal.
[12:24] <SlimeyPete> Carb0n: all hard disks are /dev/sd* now
[12:24] <Ronald|Laptop> Carb0n: drivers moved into scsi layer stuff
[12:24] <perl_contract> hmmm
[12:24] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Ok. I will.
[12:24] <SlimeyPete> Carb0n: it's a kernel thing. All the ATA stuff was moved into the SCSI subsystem.
[12:24] <Frogzoo> xerophyte: wierdly, that command works here
[12:24] <Ronald|Laptop> mc44: ty
[12:24] <perl_contract> on mine they're hdb
[12:24] <SD> bleh
[12:24] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: you using a pre-Feisty ubuntu?
[12:25] <clarkey> danny3793 spoke 2 soon mate
[12:25] <Carb0n> OK.  So why is root= parameter  being passed using the UUID?
[12:25] <SD> use /dev/hd* until i turn off highlighting thankyou
[12:25] <danny3793> clarkey: what happened, still no title bars?
[12:25] <Carb0n> instead of the label thig?
[12:25] <mc44> Carb0n: becuase UUIDs are used by default now
[12:25] <perl_contract> SlimeyPete dunno. grabbed it from the website
[12:25] <perl_contract> last week
[12:25] <Carb0n> mc44: Any rationale for this?
[12:25] <xerophyte> Frogzoo, i have all the modules for it but i have problem with it http://www.pastebin.ca/502070
[12:25] <Leonidasttt> fdfd
 mc44: Any rationale for this?
[12:25] <dawn_chorus> what's with UUID's anyway?  why are they superior?
[12:25] <SD> haha dont go there
[12:26] <mc44> Carb0n: yes, not sure what it was though :p Makes mounting external stuff better, I believe
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: oh. Odd. That should be Feisty then. It's evidently decided you're special and you deserve /dev/hd* ;)
[12:26] <clarkey> danny3793 yeah same prob
[12:26] <perl_contract> SlimeyPete ubuntu-7.04-desktop
[12:26] <perl_contract> which one is that?
[12:26] <Carb0n> mc44: Anything to do with security stuff?  Like SELinux tampering proof or something?
[12:26] <danny3793>  clarkey: alright, gimme a sec here
[12:26] <mc44> Carb0n: I don't think so
[12:26] <digital_k> hello all :)
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: it's Feisty, the latest one (with the new kernel which should put everything in /dev/sd*)
[12:26] <Frogzoo> xerophyte: using sudo?
[12:27] <clarkey> danny3793 should I do what slimey pete suggested install emerald
[12:27] <SD> STOP SAYING SD
[12:27] <xerophyte> Frogzoo, nope direct root
[12:27] <SlimeyPete> SD: I LIKE SAYING SD
[12:27] <SlimeyPete> it pleases me.
[12:27] <digital_k> lol
[12:27] <Frogzoo> xerophyte: well if you must;)
[12:27] <Carb0n> Why did the kernel-image move to a generic type?
[12:27] <mc44> SD: change your name to HD, now we don't use hd8 anymore :P
[12:27] <SD> haha yeas
[12:27] <mc44> hd*
[12:27] <perl_contract> SlimeyPete: so I'm special then? or is it a PATA thing?
[12:27] <danny3793> clarkey: you can try yeah, that may work
[12:27] <Eevee1> All have to have a hobby.
[12:27] <dawn_chorus> Carb0n, so it could be mega-bloated?
[12:27] <digital_k> Carb0n: generic types support more procs, less trouble.
[12:28] <MrC_> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page
[12:28] <mc44> dawn_chorus: er.. hardly
[12:28] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: you're special.
[12:28] <clarkey> danny3793 soz ull hav 2 tell me how newbie remember
[12:28] <danny3793> clarkey: if you go into your package manager and just search beryl, emerald will come up too, there should be 2 emerald things to download
[12:28] <perl_contract> SlimeyPete: any tips on making grub behave with windows xp?
[12:28] <SD> i remember how stupid it used to be when all burners were 'scsi' even if they were ide
[12:28] <digital_k> its really like a one size fits all kind of thing I'd imagine.
[12:28] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: what's the problem, exactly?
[12:28] <Carb0n> digital_k: I see that root has come back on Feisty, why?
[12:28] <mc44> Carb0n: no it hasnt
[12:28] <mc44> Carb0n: root is exactly the same as ever
[12:28] <SD> then usb-storage became scsi
[12:28] <perl_contract> SlimeyPete grub hangs with "stage 1.5", then hard disk light stays on forever
[12:28] <SD> NOW EVERYTHING
[12:29] <clarkey> danny3793 by package manager do u mean the install/uninstall  icon in the applications menu?
[12:29] <Carb0n> mc44: The "Users and Group" tool never used to display the root a/c name
[12:29] <digital_k> Carb0n: root is still disabled by default, as always, what do you mean?
[12:29] <danny3793> clarkey: alright :P, go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, once in there click on the Search button, and type in beryl, once it has finished searching, scroll down and look for emerald, there should be two things with the name emerald, right click on one of them and mark for installation, it should check the second one too, if not then youll have to right click on the second one and mark for installation also
[12:29] <MrC_> OpenMoko is an Open Source project to create the world's first free mobile phone operating system.
[12:29] <MrC_> The OpenMoko project is a community that anyone can join, and help to design their ideal phone.
[12:29] <MrC_> The Neo1973 from FIC is the first of many phones that OpenMoko will run on.
[12:29] <Carb0n> digital_k: Maybe I misinterpreted something.  Its only been 2 days since I've been twidling Feisty
[12:29] <spikeb> MrC_: I'm excited :)
[12:30] <mc44> Carb0n: root really hasnt changed :)
[12:30] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: hmm, not sure. My usual advice in these situations is "check c:\boot.ini" - it can conflict with grub (particularly wrt partition numbers)
[12:30] <justbanana> /quit+
[12:30] <Frogzoo> xerophyte: if that's all the error you get, try it using strace
[12:30] <danny3793> dawn_chorus: hmm, i have no options to resize my partition..
[12:30] <Carb0n> mc44: When I enable the Desktop Effects thingy (not beryl) it won't display the videos I play (screen appears just blank)
[12:30] <digital_k> I think Ubuntu's implementation of root works , I like it.
[12:30] <perl_contract> SlimeyPete: what should boot.ini say for /boot on /dev/hdb6 ?
[12:30] <MrC_> me too .I would love to get my hands in this mobile
[12:30] <clarkey> danny3793 emerald or emerald-dbg ?
[12:31] <Carb0n> digital_k: me too
[12:31] <danny3793> clarkey: go for emerald, im not sure what dbg is lemme check
[12:31] <mc44> Carb0n: does desktop effects work?
[12:31] <MrC_> Have you seem the pics?Spykeb
[12:31] <manjunath> has anyone got ubuntu working on IA64
[12:31] <Carb0n> mc44: The wobbly windows does, the cube sometimes fails (almost always)
[12:31] <Frogzoo> xerophyte: you might also try it using sudo, in case there's a group perm you need somewhere
[12:31] <MrC_> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction#Photos
[12:31] <mc44> Carb0n: fails? what card do you have?
[12:31] <danny3793> clarkey: you dont see an emerald-themes?
[12:31] <dawn_chorus> danny3793, yeah.  you can't resize a mounted partition.  here's what you want:  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
[12:31] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: boot.ini should mention linux stuff... it's a windows thing (it configures the windows bootloader). It only needs to know about windows partitions.
[12:31] <spikeb> MrC_: yes, it's lovely :)
[12:31] <Carb0n> mc44: Intel 915GM
[12:32] <Carb0n> mc44: This is my laptop
[12:32] <MrC_> you will be able to use your kde/gnome applications of it.It will be like your kubuntu/ubuntu
[12:32] <danny3793> dawn_chorus: oof, ill have to do that later, working on stuff right now :P
[12:32] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: *shouldn't mention
[12:32] <clarkey> danny3793 got it am installing the emerald one atm
[12:32] <digital_k> It seems everyone wants all that eyecandy jazz...lol..I just use Ubuntu ..and it just works, nicely and trouble free.
[12:32] <fastlikeacat> how the hell do i stop this stupid shit from coming here
[12:32] <mc44> Carb0n: try playing in gstreamer-properties to get video to work, Xv may not work well with desktop effects
[12:32] <fastlikeacat> ?
[12:32] <fastlikeacat> lol
[12:32] <danny3793> dawn_chorus: ill go ahead and download it now though, thanks for the link ;)
[12:32] <perl_contract> SlimeyPete is grub installed on /boot, or just in the mbr?
[12:32] <digital_k> i feel those effects arent practical for everyday use.
[12:32] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | fastlikeacat
[12:32] <ubotu> fastlikeacat: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:33] <Carb0n> mc44: ok
[12:33] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: in the mbr, usually. That's the default.
[12:33] <fastlikeacat> my bad
[12:33] <danny3793> clarkey: alright, once thats done click search and type in "emerald-themes" and see if it comes up with anything...it should :P
[12:33] <Carb0n> digital_k: How else do we impress the hell outa the Vista weenies?
[12:33] <SlimeyPete> perl_contract: but its config files are often in /boot/grub
[12:33] <digital_k> lol i know i know......
[12:33] <mc44> digital_k: they work fine for everyday use here )
[12:33] <crdlb> Carb0n: you're experiencing a bug in the intel drivers, a workaround is to use mplayer with xv
[12:33] <clarkey> danny3793 ok marked it 4 install
[12:33] <crdlb> for some reason mplayer is unaffected
[12:34] <Frogzoo> digital_k: beryl is a point of difference with windows, it's totally superficial, but can impress your boss, who is clueless about linux
[12:34] <Carb0n> crdlb: Only Totem was installed default.  Now I'm at the college updating and installing stuff
[12:34] <cinex> does wine-tools not work for anyone else or just me? I keep getting told it wont work on old versions
[12:34] <clarkey> danny3793 ok thats been installed aswell
[12:34] <Superdot> hello everyone
[12:34] <Superdot> from sunny tenerife
[12:34] <prayer_tramontan> Hello
[12:34] <Carb0n> cinex: Add the wine repository from the winehq.com
[12:34] <digital_k> Frogzoo: beryl is quite impressive, no doubt.
[12:35] <cinex> ok Carb0n, will do
[12:35] <prayer_tramontan> Im having some problems with my Evolution Mail :/
[12:35] <prayer_tramontan> I dont know how to change the SMTP port to 2525
[12:35] <prayer_tramontan> can someone help me ?
[12:35] <digital_k> prayer_tramontan: explain the issue someone may be able to help. :)
[12:35] <Superdot> Im so diggin ubuntu studio, Im into music creation and recording
[12:35] <danny3793> clarkey: ok now right click on the Red gem up in your taskbar go to Window Decoration Manager, and tell it to use emerald
[12:35] <Carb0n> why does adobe(r) acrobat(r) doesn't show up in Add/Remove programs?
[12:36] <danny3793> clarkey: "select window decorator" :P
[12:36] <Frogzoo> prayer_tramontan: smtp? or pop?
[12:36] <prayer_tramontan> digital_k: My ISP is blocking the 25 port, so i need to change the outgoing SMTP mail to 2525
[12:36] <Frogzoo> prayer_tramontan: anyhow, you change that in the mailbox settings
[12:36] <prayer_tramontan> Frogzoo: Its the SMTP poutgoing 2525
[12:36] <SlimeyPete> Carb0n: don't use add/remove programs. It's pointless. Use Synaptic from the System menu.
[12:36] <digital_k> you can do that in the preferences. i use non imap defaults, so the defaults dont work for me.
[12:36] <prayer_tramontan> Okay, i am new to ubuntu, so i open evolution mail now
[12:36] <mc44> Carb0n: because the commercial repository for fesity isn't working yet
[12:36] <clarkey> danny3793 still not availiable there
[12:36] <mc44> SlimeyPete: er... Add/Remove isn't pointless at all
[12:36] <spikeb> it isn't pointless :(
[12:37] <SlimeyPete> mc44: what's the point of it?
[12:37] <prayer_tramontan> ok i am in Evolution Mail now
[12:37] <mc44> SlimeyPete: it lets you add and remove stuff easilt
[12:37] <mc44> *easily
[12:37] <blackjackel> I'm trying to make ubuntu look and act more like windows so I'm a bit more used to it, how can I make "trash" a desktop Icon?
[12:37] <danny3793> clarkey: you dont see Standard Beryl Decorator (Emerald)"?
[12:37] <Carb0n> SlimeyPete: I prefer aptitude myself.  Synaptic almost always leaves my apt db in a broken state
[12:37] <digital_k> alright , open preferences, find your account in there and select edit.
[12:37] <Superdot> ubuntu studio it just works superb out of the box on my system, no problems with hard at all
[12:37] <SlimeyPete> mc44: um... but Synaptic does that...
[12:37] <digital_k> then find the sending mail tab
[12:37] <prayer_tramontan> oka
[12:37] <mc44> SlimeyPete: synaptic is way too intimidating for most people
[12:37] <Superdot> im just impressed
[12:37] <mc44> SlimeyPete: add/remove is easy to use and does the job
[12:37] <clarkey> danny3793 no same 2 options as before
[12:37] <danny3793> blackjackel: why did you switch to linux then, if all your trying to do is make it Windows
[12:37] <Carb0n> mc44: Synaptic is easy for intermediaries
[12:37] <danny3793> clarkey: what 2 options do you have?
[12:38] <tondar> is cedega FREE?
[12:38] <digital_k> danny3793: here here!
[12:38] <SlimeyPete> mc44: I have to admit, I'm basing my opinion on Edgy and Dapper. I found that add/remove gave me a tiny subset of available programs and hardly ever showed the ones that were already installed.
[12:38] <prayer_tramontan> I am in my Mail options now !
[12:38] <spikeb> tondar: no.
[12:38] <Carb0n> mc44: What in Windows world is known as Power Users
[12:38] <mc44> Carb0n: Im not saying its not, I'm just saying add/remove is useful
[12:38] <MenZa> tondar: you can get it for free from cvs, iirc.
[12:38] <blackjackel> danny3793, what a retarded question. I switched to linux for the functionality, not the looks
[12:38] <danny3793> tondar: its kindal ike $15 one time fee :)
[12:38] <Carb0n> mc44: I agree
[12:38] <Frogzoo> SlimeyPete: on feisty, add/remove is interesting just to see how much is available
[12:38] <danny3793> blackjackel: what a retarded question, and statement, as your are trying to make Linux act more like Windows, when it is what? Linux.
[12:38] <mc44> SlimeyPete: it gives nearly all commonly used applications these days, ranked by popularity too, its quite handy
[12:38] <spikeb> add/remove generally shows _programs_ not _packages_
[12:38] <Carb0n> mc44: Gives you a holistic view to install stuff. Later you can resort to aptitude to fine tune the system
[12:38] <digital_k> prayer_tramontan: find your account in the window highlight and select edit
[12:39] <atlas95> hello
[12:39] <Carb0n> mc44: deporphan is my friend
[12:39] <spikeb> (exception made for some gstreamer plugins)
[12:39] <atlas95> anyone have a asustek laptop please?
[12:39] <mc44> SlimeyPete: if its not for you, fine, I'm just saying don't dismiss it for everyone
[12:39] <blackjackel> danny3793, all I want to do is make it more familiar. In windows trash is an icon, and thats what I want to do
[12:39] <atlas95> i want to know if all hardware work on ubuntu
[12:39] <clarkey> danny3793 ok
[12:39] <SlimeyPete> mc44: fair enough. I wasn't aware that it had improved so much.
[12:39] <spikeb> i usually fire up terminal instead of synaptic hehe
[12:39] <Carb0n> SlimeyPete: Personaly, I HATE it too
[12:39] <tondar> yo guys I can't but this thing :( not in the US :(
[12:39] <danny3793> blackjackel: trash is on your bottom taskbar, how is that so hard to see?
[12:39] <tondar> cedega
[12:39] <mc44> SlimeyPete: well maybe you won't think it has :P
[12:39] <digital_k> spikeb:me too, unless Im searching for a particular software.
[12:39] <clarkey> danny3793 ok I reloaded the manager thing and Ive got emerald now but still no titebars
[12:39] <spikeb> cedega requires a US residency to pay? bah
[12:40] <Carb0n> spikeb: Thats not an option when you have to build up the system to what it had previously
[12:40] <spikeb> digital_k: apt-cache search |less
[12:40] <spikeb> heh
[12:40] <danny3793> clarkey: no? alright lemme give you this paste bin link and go ahead and do what you did before (open xorg.conf through terminal, etc etc)
[12:40] <jkgsdgjksdgjsdgk> do^ng va(t...
[12:40] <blackjackel> danny3793, it isn't, but I'm making a new taskbar to look like windows, and it dosen't include trash, and I don't want anything taking more space on the taskbar
[12:40] <spikeb> Carb0n: it's more of a pain for multiple things, yes.
[12:40] <danny3793> clarkey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21965/
[12:41] <tondar> what the **** no one answers in #cedega
[12:41] <tondar> ?!!!
[12:41] <danny3793> blackjackel: so....what did you switch to linux for again?
[12:41] <digital_k> i really get annoyed when people say there is no software selection for Ubuntu, it just isnt the case. there is software for anything you want to do.
[12:41] <digital_k> and its free.
[12:41] <blackjackel> danny3793, the performance
[12:41] <Carb0n> spikeb: Who said to use it for a life-time.  Install some stuff.  Synaptic to fill the gaps.  Throw both away and do it with aptitude.
[12:41] <mc44> tondar: its a commerical product, what do you expect :)
[12:41] <tondar> mc44: i want to know if I could run uefa with it ?
[12:41] <tondar> EA
[12:42] <DIGITALCLIENT> hello
[12:42] <Kien_Mo> co' thang nao` Viet Nam ko ?
[12:42] <digital_k> hi DIGITALCLIENT
[12:42] <spikeb> !vt
[12:42] <digital_k> !vietnamese
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vietnamese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <spikeb> bah
[12:42] <mc44> tondar: I don't know, check on winehq
[12:42] <digital_k> well
[12:42] <spikeb> what's the country code
[12:42] <DIGITALCLIENT> help me , i dont have internet on kubuntu
[12:42] <Kien_Mo> co' ai ko ?
[12:42] <DIGITALCLIENT> ethernet ok
[12:42] <tondar> mc44: come on no way wine could do this
[12:42] <clarkey> danny3793 ok Ive done the same thing pasted that into xorg.conf
[12:43] <tondar> lol
[12:43] -Kien_Mo:#ubuntu- co' ai o Viet Nam ko ?
[12:43] -Kien_Mo:#ubuntu- co' ai o Viet Nam ko ?
[12:43] <dawn_chorus> DIGITALCLIENT, using guarddog?
[12:43] <DIGITALCLIENT> ehm
[12:43] <danny3793> clarkey: kk now restart your xserver again
[12:43] <DIGITALCLIENT> im newb
[12:43] <danny3793> !viet
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about viet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <CheshireViking> !english | Kien_Mo
[12:43] <spikeb> !vt
[12:43] <ubotu> Kien_Mo: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <Superdot> Im not able to make the tv out to work on my Nvdia Gforce FX5200, Ive got the restricted drivers working fine
[12:43] <spikeb> yes, sorry.
[12:43] <zaggynl> !vn | Kien_Mo
[12:43] <DIGITALCLIENT> you indicate me
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <spikeb> !vn
[12:43] <Kien_Mo> a` hay day
[12:43] <zaggynl> it is vn
[12:43] <spikeb> yes. bah
[12:44] <mc44> tondar: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7305
[12:44] <dawn_chorus> DIGITALCLIENT, guess you're not using guarddog then.  so are you in a livecd or something?
[12:44] <Kien_Mo> no english
[12:44] <varka> tondar: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7305
[12:44] <anathematic> could someone point me towards the correct package for all codecs (read: to play mp3's/anime) on ubuntu?
[12:44] <anathematic> going to need  a package due ot lack of internet on the box
[12:44] -Kien_Mo:#ubuntu- co' ai o Viet Nam ko ?
[12:44] <zaggynl> Kien_Mo, nobody here speaks Vietnamese, and there isn't a channel for it I guess :(
[12:44] <Frogzoo> !codecs
[12:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:44] <CheshireViking> spikeb, don't think there is vietnamese channel
[12:44] <Chamelion-coder> Kien_Mo stop it
[12:44] <DIGITALCLIENT> no i kubuntu installed
[12:44] <zaggynl> lol, notices work in#ubuntu ?!
[12:44] <xtknight> why does my time always get desync'd?
[12:44] <digital_k> !Annamese
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about annamese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <Kien_Mo> hic'''
[12:44] <spikeb> there's nobody in ubuntu-vn :(
[12:44] <digital_k> hmmm
[12:44] <Kien_Mo> akay
[12:44] <DIGITALCLIENT> i start guarddog?
[12:44] <anathematic> thank you Frogzoo
[12:44] <Kien_Mo> tra co ma nao` o Viet Nam a`
[12:45] <Frogzoo> Kien_Mo: people speak english in this channel
[12:45] <xtknight> maybe you vn guys could goto #ubuntu-offtopic or something
[12:45] <tondar> mc44: variant , wonderful
[12:45] <dawn_chorus> DIGITALCLIENT, no.  you probably don't have it installed.  you can't get any net access at all?
[12:45] <tondar> thank you
[12:45] <danny3793> there is no vietnam thing for ubotu :(
[12:45] <xtknight> or #ubuntu-vn even just make a channel w/e
[12:45] <digital_k> apparently there isnt .
[12:45] <clarkey> danny3793 still no luck
[12:45] <xtknight> !vn
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <CheshireViking> no point making a channel unless somebody else speaks vietnamese who can help anyway
[12:46] <Superdot> thnak so much "ubotu" I'll have a look see what I can do
[12:46] <neutralrobotboy> can someone tell me exactly where to find the grub config file on my system?
[12:46] <danny3793> clarkey: no? darn...maybe SlimeyPete knows whats wrong, sorry :(
[12:46] <DIGITALCLIENT> i dont have internet
[12:46] <digital_k> !thanks
[12:46] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:46] <neutralrobotboy> like, where it lists the options and what disks to mount and so on?
[12:46] <Frogzoo> I think this Kien_Mo guy is the first person in Vietnam running ubuntu
[12:46] <Flannel> neutralrobotboy: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:46] <clarkey> danny3793 not sure if I told u this clearly enough but as soon as I switch to compiz or metacity the titlebars comeback
[12:46] <Superdot> /boot/grub
[12:46] <spikeb> there's a vietnamese distro based on ubuntu.
[12:46] <dawn_chorus> DIGITALCLIENT, so are you on a livecd or something?
[12:46] <Superdot> I think
[12:46] <Seveas> !vt
[12:46] <Flannel> neutralrobotboy: but, "what disks to mount" isn't there.  That's /etc/fstab
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <neutralrobotboy> Flannel: thank you = )
[12:46] <clarkey> Slimeypete any hints?
[12:47] <danny3793> clarkey: yeah, its a beryl issue, i know i had the same problem with beryl
[12:47] <xtknight> how do i enable NTP?  how often does it update?  my time is getting desynchronized a lot, but a "sudo ntpdate-debian" fixes it
[12:47] <DIGITALCLIENT> i have a livecd of kubuntu
[12:47] <Flannel> Seveas: it's vn
[12:47] <danny3793> clarkey: could be the way your xorg.conf is layed out, mine is a bit different
[12:47] <neutralrobotboy> Flannel: yeah. ubuntu actually doesn't boot on my system at all. i've finally figured out how to boot into windows, but i want to make windows the only boot option, since ubuntu doesn't boot at all for me.
[12:47] <Frogzoo> xtknight: right click the gnome clock & look around
[12:47] <dawn_chorus> DIGITALCLIENT, you use cable ethernet?
[12:47] <Seveas> Flannel, thanks. The vietnamese factoid seems to be missing though :/
[12:47] <Flannel> xtknight: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html  Suggest ntpd not ntpdate
[12:47] <DIGITALCLIENT> yes
[12:47] <tondar> guys a good photoshop like app for ubuntu?
[12:47] <Flannel> Seveas: So does the channel, I believe
[12:48] <tondar> besides GIMP
[12:48] <xtknight> Flannel, oh, i thought ntpd was a NTP protocol server..
[12:48] <danny3793> great.....create a launcher is now frozen -_-, brb
[12:48] <SlimeyPete> clarkey: if selecting Emerald didn't work, then I'm not sure tbh. Try running "emerald" from terminal and see if it prints any errors.
[12:48] <Seveas> Flannel, :)
[12:48] <digital_k> tondar:well the GIMP is it as far as I know.
[12:48] <Frogzoo> tondar: photoshop under wine
[12:48] <DIGITALCLIENT> cable work i try
[12:48] <crdlb> clarkey: #ubuntu-effects
[12:48] <spikeb> gimp is the best for getting close to PS featurewise.
[12:48] <danny3793> perhaps when i get back someone can help me with my ff and flash/sound problem ;)
[12:48] <dawn_chorus> DIGITALCLIENT, make sure dhcpd is on when you boot up.
[12:48] <tondar> Frogzoo: tried it out, didnt like it
[12:48] <Carb0n> gxine sucks, everytime (not in Feisty) I used it. the video played will be ghostly white
[12:48] <tondar> Frogzoo: jammed
[12:48] <Carb0n> whatever player I tried next will have the same problem
[12:48] <DIGITALCLIENT> i reboot kubuntu?
[12:48] <Frogzoo> !appdb > tondar
[12:49] <digital_k> Carb0n: have you tried totem-xine? it works well for me, always has.
[12:49] <Flannel> xtknight: it's both.  it syncs you, and you can use it to sync other machines.  but the nice thing is it's not jumpy like ntpdate, so logs dont get screwy
[12:49] <Superdot> neutral robot boy the easiest way is to boot from windows and execute Fdisk /mbr
[12:49] <Superdot> it will clean your mbr
[12:49] <tondar> spikeb: how to do blending in gimp?
[12:49] <Carb0n> digital_k: ANy player I use, after playing with Gxine, it will be ghostly white -- totem, xine, vlc, whatever
[12:49] <spikeb> tondar: no idea, i'm still at the "screwing around and not knowing what i am doing" stage iwth gimp
[12:49] <tondar> spikeb: blending options in ps is ? in gimp?
[12:49] <clarkey> Slimeypete ok ive got an error:  emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display "localhost:1.0"
[12:50] <Carb0n> digital_k: I was suspecting the problem to be with gstreamer libs
[12:50] <Superdot> make sure to make windows partition as bootable
[12:50] <digital_k> i dont mean totem and xine, i mean totem-xine. its a different player
[12:50] <xtknight> Flannel, cool, thanks.  i'll have to check later today to see if it worked
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> clarkey: try googling for the error message. I'm afraid I can't be much more help.
[12:50] <xtknight> tried the ntpd..
[12:50] <tondar> anyone know where is the blending options for gimp?
[12:50] <jtmoney_> how can i mount an xp share (using smbfs or /etc/fstab) and enable regular users on my linux box to have read/write access to that share?
[12:50] <clarkey> Slimeypete ok thanks neway
[12:50] <zaggynl> 'but, does it blend?'
[12:50] <Carb0n> digital_k: I know, I had totem (with gstreamer) and xine-ui and vlc and mplayer installed
[12:50] <Flannel> xtknight: just make sure it's running.  And yeah, it'll take a bit
[12:50] <varka> tondar: if you dont mind spending a little money .... pixel was my choice, its quite photoshoplike an has everything you normally need
[12:51] <xtknight> Flannel, does it have to be in 'cron', or something?
[12:51] <xtknight> Flannel, 'cause if i have to type "sudo ntpdate" or "sudo ntpdate-debian" off and on it isn't much good
[12:51] <digital_k> eh
[12:51] <Flannel> xtknight: no.  ntpd runs constantly.  ntpdate is the cron thing.  you'll want to get rid of that if youve done anything with it
[12:51] <Flannel> xtknight: that page tells you all about what you need to do
[12:51] <Carb0n> digital_k: Any idea?  I asked in #ubuntu-in and nobody seem to know whats causing it
[12:51] <xtknight> Flannel,  at the end of the ntpd instructions it had you execute ntpdate
[12:52] <digital_k> Carb0n: does that happen with any media you play?
[12:52] <varka> tondar: http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12
[12:52] <xtknight> never mind, it must be a separate section
[12:52] <Flannel> xtknight: no.  It gives you the "Changing Time Servers" instruction for both methods
[12:52] <Carb0n> digital_k: Only videos ;)
[12:52] <Skfarek> i use Kubuntu. and i have installed Tango packages. i configured Qt and it works fine. but still problem with configure GTK with Tango. how can i do it? i use Fvwm so don't have any wizard i think...
[12:52] <digital_k> streaming videos or dvd?
[12:52] <digital_k> or what?
[12:52] <xtknight> Flannel, is there a pkg that will remove the old ntpdate stuff?  safe to remove?
[12:53] <xtknight> removing <ntpdate> shouldn't affect ntpd?
[12:53] <Flannel> xtknight: safe to leave around.  Believe u-d depends on it.
[12:53] <Frogzoo> xtknight: don't understand why you're poking around - ntp works out of the box more or less
[12:53] <tondar> varka: will check it out, thanks
[12:53] <xtknight> Frogzoo, because my time is getting descynhronized
[12:53] <Carb0n> digital_k: Localy stored files as well as VCD/DVDs
[12:53] <xtknight> Frogzoo, even though i say 'update with internet server' in the time applet
[12:54] <tondar> varka: not free :(
[12:54] <jtmoney> xtknight: ntpdate time.windows.com?
[12:54] <xtknight> edgy worked fine.  feisty has problems with ntp, for me
[12:54] <varka> tondar: said that before
[12:54] <digital_k> Carb0n: that sounds to me like a codec issue more or less.
[12:54] <xtknight> once you execute ntpdate it's fine
[12:54] <xtknight> but over a period of 5 hours itll be off maybe 5 minutes
[12:54] <Flannel> xtknight: yeah, when I had a GUI, I never got the blasted thing working either.  Which is one of the main reasons I switched to ntpd
[12:54] <xtknight> well maybe 24 hours/5 mins
[12:54] <digital_k> I would recommend automatix2, but that is frowned upon here. ;)
[12:54] <Carb0n> digital_k: Its only visible when I use gxine
[12:55] <Carb0n> digital_k: Thats why I specifically said xine-ui isn't affected (before)
[12:55] <xtknight> Flannel, k so all you did is install ntp-simple and editing that conf file to add servers/etc...nothing more?
[12:55] <Gabz> clear
[12:55] <Carb0n> digital_k: After using gxine, all players are affected
[12:55] <Stormx2> digital_k: easyubuntu ftw
[12:55] -Kien_Mo:#ubuntu- co' ai o Viet Nam ko ?
[12:55] <Flannel> xtknight: stop any ntpdate things you have running, but yeah.
[12:55] <xtknight> Flannel, yeah see that's where im confused, what ntpdate things?
[12:56] <youbuntu> digital_k: why is automatix2 frowned upon ?
[12:56] <Stormx2> !vn | -Kien_Mo
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <Flannel> xtknight: and, ntpdate is a dependant of ubuntu-minimal, so don't remove it
[12:56] <Stormx2> Hm.
[12:56] <digital_k> well i suggested it once and i got the 3rd degree for doing so.
[12:56] <xtknight> Flannel,  'disable sync of internet' in applet, or something else too?
[12:56] <Flannel> xtknight: `ps aux | grep ntp`  see if anything is runnign
[12:56] <xtknight> sync with internet*
[12:56] <xtknight> nope
[12:56] <Carb0n> Anyone know how to set up a framebuffer in a 1280x800 res?
[12:56] <youbuntu> digital_k : yeah i have seen that too but wondered why
[12:56] <DIGITALCLIENT> my kubuntu dont go in internet
[12:57] <Carb0n> the module I want is intelfb
[12:57] <digital_k> the codec install by automatix2 is more comprehensive than whats on the repos.
[12:57] <digital_k> it installs alot more
[12:57] <jrib> Kien_Mo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VietnameseTeam http://ubuntu-vn.tuxfamily.org/
[12:57] <Flannel> hmm.  Alright, I always had one running.  So, no need to kill that.  Yeah, you'll want to uncheck whatever youve checked, I imagine stuff will be happier
[12:57] <Flannel> youbuntu: because automatix breaks systems horribly and irreprehensibly
[12:57] <DIGITALCLIENT> my kubuntu dont go in internet
[12:57] <digital_k> Flannel: ive never had that happen in 2 years Ive been using it.
[12:58] <Stormx2> DIGITALCLIENT: Have you configured it?
[12:58] <Flannel> !worksforme | digital_k
[12:58] <ubotu> digital_k: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:58] <tondar> guys if I install uefa under windows will I be able to play it with wine under linux? I mean the installation is done in windows but can I use wine to play it ?
[12:58] <digital_k> see thats the 3rd degree i mentioned.
[12:58] <Flannel> digital_k: and we've seen hundreds of people in here that it has broken with.
[12:58] <youbuntu> ok thanks for explaining that
[12:58] <tondar> something like wine c:/program/uefa.....
[12:58] <tondar> ?
[12:58] <tondar> is this possible
[12:58] <tondar> ?
[12:58] <Stormx2> digital_k: Please don't recommend it, okay? The repo install is fine. You can run 1 command
[12:58] <DIGITALCLIENT> i want  this  help
[12:58] <Frogzoo> I think flaming automatix is unproductive, but if people want to use it, they should -> #automatix, and not come here
[12:58] <mc44> tondar: no
[12:59] <Stormx2> tondar: yeah. Don't use newline as punctuation
[12:59] <digital_k> Stormx2: i didnt recommend it.
[12:59] <Stormx2> mc44: What? Yes it does. If he quotes it.
[12:59] <xtknight> Flannel, now im really confused ;)...ntp-simple only contains man pages
[12:59] <tondar> yes or no
[12:59] <tondar> ?
[12:59] <jrib> tondar: you can try
[12:59] <xtknight> at least in Feisty
[12:59] <tondar> jrib: hmmm
[12:59] <Stormx2> tondar: yes, but you need to quote it. Like wine "C:\Program Files\..."
[12:59] <DIGITALCLIENT> stormx2
[12:59] <Flannel> xtknight: ah.  As of Feisty, ntp-simple is a transitional, it depends on ntp.
[01:00] <youbuntu> DIGITALCLIENT : can u ping an extranal ip address
[01:00] <Stormx2> !it | DIGITALCLIENT
[01:00] <xtknight> ah that makes sense
[01:00] <ubotu> DIGITALCLIENT: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:00] <tondar> Stormx2: k
[01:00] <tondar> cool
[01:00] <xtknight> ok i'll see how it is later on
[01:00] <jrib> Stormx2: wouldn't that point it at ~/.wine/drive_c instead of the mounted windows partition?
[01:00] <DIGITALCLIENT> okappa tanks
[01:00] <mc44> Stormx2: you can run stuff installed in windows via wine?
[01:00] <Stormx2> jrib: yeah... is that not what is needed?
[01:00] <Stormx2> Oh, maybe I misunderstood
[01:00] <tondar> mc44: sure you can
[01:00] <tondar> mc44: I do all the time
[01:01] <mc44> tondar: Straight off your windows partition?
[01:01] <Stormx2> mc44: You can, but its very buggy. Really, you need to install it using wine
[01:01] <tondar> mc44: YES
[01:01] <mc44> Stormx2: thats what I was saying :)
[01:01] <jrib> mc44: well I've run paint like that
[01:01] <mc44> tondar: then how come you asked how to do it if you already do?
[01:01] <Stormx2> It's okay for like, notepad
[01:01] <Stormx2> But anything that needs to be installed you need to wine the installer
[01:01] <thedonvaughn> runs windows poker clients well :)
[01:01] <tondar> mc44: im doing it already for utorrent staright off windows and some other stuff
[01:01] <CheshireViking> tondar, you might find that you need to install it through wine, there's probably registry settings that the install would make that you wouldn't get by just running your windows version
[01:01] <tondar> mc44: I wanted to see if its possible for uefa
[01:01] <tondar> if someone had done it b4
[01:02] <tondar> mc44: thats all
[01:02] <Neil-> hey all.. my monitor can rotate 90 degrees to allow viewing pdfs and whatever...
[01:02] <Neil-> anyone know how to make the screen do this in ubuntu?
[01:02] <tondar> CheshireViking: maybe
[01:02] <Stormx2> tondar: You need to install it again using wine
[01:02] <Neil-> came with a windows app to rotate it, but no *nix
[01:02] <tondar> Stormx2: probably
[01:02] <Stormx2> Neil-: Ooh I haven't heard that question before. Definately probably possible. Maybe as in #xorg?
[01:02] <kayef_> how do i restart a PPPOE connection?
[01:03] <Neil-> thanks, ill ask
[01:03] <youbuntu> Flannel: "automatix breaks systems horribly and irreprehensibly" - applies to kubuntu too?
[01:03] <spikeb> yes, youbuntu
[01:03] <thedonvaughn> youbuntu, yes all debian based systems
[01:03] -InTerNetKetBan:#ubuntu- co' ai o Viet Nam ko ?
[01:03] <tondar> kayef: pon dsl-provider
[01:03] <youbuntu> thanks
[01:03] <mc44> InTerNetKetBan: please stop doing that
[01:03] <InTerNetKetBan> ok
[01:03] <Frogzoo> kayef_: poff -a ; pon dsl-provider
[01:03] <spikeb> pon poff!
[01:03] <Carb0n> digital_k: Whats this avahi stuff?
[01:04] <spikeb> yay. i remember that from....a very long time ago
[01:05] <tondar> hey guys i have 2 accounts for my connection one day and the other which is FREE for the night
[01:05] <tondar> I did the same procedure for the night connection to set it up but it wont connect
[01:05] <Miso> i'm trying to install nvidia drivers and getting this error sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[01:05] <tondar> ??
[01:05] <tondar> WHY?
[01:05] <crdlb> Miso: are you on feisty?
[01:05] <mc44> Miso: which version of ubuntu are you on?
[01:05] <Miso> feisty
[01:05] <crdlb> Miso: do you have an 8800?
[01:05] <tondar> any ideas?
[01:06] <thedonvaughn> Miso, how are you trying to install it?
[01:06] <Miso> crdlb: no
[01:06] <mc44> Miso: use System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager
[01:06] <crdlb> then use that ^^
[01:06] <Neil-> Hmm.. looks like I need to use something called xrandr, which is already installed, to rotate my screen.. anyone got any experiecne with it?
[01:06] <spikeb> hmm
[01:07] <Frogzoo> Neil-: xrandr may/may not work
[01:08] <Frogzoo> Neil-: but 'xrandr -x'
[01:08] <Neil-> Frogzoo: gives an error :(
[01:08] <Frogzoo> ati strikes again!
[01:09] <Neil-> I'm nVidia
[01:09] <Neil-> :P
[01:10] -InTerNetKetBan:#ubuntu- co' ai o Viet Nam ko ?
[01:11] <arruah> hi
[01:11] <arruah> i've some problem with old pc
[01:11] <arruah> celeron 600
[01:11] <arruah> i've error: soft lockup detection on CPU#0
[01:11] <arruah> ubuntu 7.04 server
[01:12] <Glaf> How do i fix the nvidia driver when. The nvidia kernel module has another version then the X module has?
[01:12] <arruah> who can help me ?
[01:13] <digital_k> arruah: perhaps you need the alternate install version?
[01:13] <smiesko> hello
[01:13] <smiesko> i have problem ...
[01:13] <arruah> digital_k: it's really help ?
[01:13] <smiesko> I need help
[01:13] <digital_k> smiesko: what is your problem? please explain.
[01:13] <smiesko> pls
[01:13] <^aleta^> hi all, I've got a problem with evince. When accessing the print dialog showing the available printers the program freeze and have to kill it. Launching evince from a terminal does not show any error message nor does syslog. However I have no porblems printing with OpenOffice. Any ideas where to look?
[01:13] <digital_k> arruah: perhaps
[01:14] <arruah> digital_k: ok i'll try
[01:14] <Timsen> hi, does the ubuntu kernel not support broadcast ping answering?
[01:14] <smiesko> digital_k: when I up sound in my headpohone, it give bad sound ...
[01:15] <gael> hi
[01:15] <digital_k> smiesko: distorted sound?
[01:15] <smiesko> digital_k: I spaek english a liitle, sorry ...
[01:15] <fatal_> Timsen: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts
[01:15] <Frogzoo> Timsen: incorrect
[01:15] <digital_k> smiesko: what is your native language?
[01:15] <smiesko> digital_k: ou yes distorted ...
[01:15] <neutralrobotboy> so... i can't mount the drive ubuntu is on in windows, and i can't seem to modify files on it from a live boot disc.
[01:16] <smiesko> digital_k: slovak, I am a beginner in linux
[01:16] <neutralrobotboy> this is a problem because i want to change my grub configuration.
[01:16] <digital_k> so you speak russian?
[01:16] <digital_k> !russian
[01:16] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:16] <ub12> does any here know about rhythmbox?
[01:16] <neutralrobotboy> but ubuntu won't load either.
[01:16] <Timsen> thanks fatal_
[01:16] <smiesko> digital_k: I speak a little germen ...
[01:16] <CheshireViking> neutralrobotboy, have you installed the ext2fs add on for windows?
[01:16] <digital_k> !german
[01:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:17] <neutralrobotboy> CheshireViking: yes.
[01:17] <neutralrobotboy> the drive it's on shows up as an unformatted fat drive in windows for some reason.
[01:17] -InTerNetKetBan:#ubuntu- co' ai o Viet Nam ko ?
[01:17] <youbuntu> smiesko : what language do you normally speak?
[01:17] <neutralrobotboy> it's... strange.
[01:17] <CheshireViking> neutralrobotboy, rite, thats me out of idea's then
[01:18] <jrib> InTerNetKetBan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VietnameseTeam http://ubuntu-vn.tuxfamily.org/ stop pinging the channel
[01:18] <thompa> my backlight keys f1 f2 stopped working, hiw can i get them back? I beleive it happened after hal update
[01:18] <CheshireViking> neutralrobotboy, i'm running it on my laptop & my ubuntu partition shows up without problems
[01:18] <neutralrobotboy> CheshireViking: something's really screwed up with my ubuntu install obviously. i have no idea what.
[01:18] <smiesko> youbuntu: my native language is slovak
[01:18] <CheshireViking> neutralrobotboy, doesn't sound good
[01:18] <digital_k> !slovak
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slovak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <digital_k> well......
[01:19] <cherva>  help i thin ubuntu 7.04 has a major flaw in the HDD control system (i think you will get my point) recently i had an installed ubuntu 6.10 for over 3-4 mounts but when i upgraded to 7.10 my HDD started to ( i don't know how to describe it in english ) very strange from time to time every thing freezes and the HDD makes very strange noice like the pin scratches the disks for a sec and everything starts working normaly. The HDD died ;( then because my 
[01:19] <neutralrobotboy> when grub starts up, it gives a bit of a command line syntax. that is how i've booted into windows. is there a way to save the boot configuration from there?
[01:19] <CheshireViking> !cz
[01:19] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[01:19] <digital_k> smiesko: go to system>preferences>sound, is autodetect selected for all options?
[01:20] <ub12> how do you add to ubotu's responses?
[01:20] <smiesko> digital_k: my sound is allright, but when I up sound in headpohone, sound is going clicks
[01:20] <joe4444> i tried to open a file that has no application associated with it, and for some reason the Add/Remove Applications program appeared... now it is unresponsive, constantly flashes in my panel, and i cannot force it to close... can i do anything other than restart?
[01:20] <mar77i> hi. what kind of data recovery tools are available on ubuntu? I deleted an ntfs partition... I can imagine that something like this even exists for ubuntu, doesn't it?
[01:20] <smiesko> digital_k: yes, I selected autodetect for all options ...
[01:21] <digital_k> smiesko: that happens with anything you listen too? or just one thing in particular?
[01:21] <orbin> joe4444: how have you tried to close it?
[01:22] <joe4444> of course
[01:22] <joe4444> normally trying to close a frozen app prompts me with the force close option, but nothing happens when i try it on this
[01:22] <Timsen> okay fatal_ thanks for help on that issue
[01:22] <smiesko> digital_k: when I hear music in speaker, sound is beautifil and when i hear music in headphone, sound is beautiful, but when I up sound , sound is bad
[01:22] <arruah> digital_k: may be try to instaal distr with 2.4 kernel ? my pc so old (celeron 600)
[01:22] <cubex> hello everyone
[01:23] <cubex> is there anyway to completely replace eog with gThumb?
[01:23] <joe4444> also, the "Searching for appropriate applications" dialog is stuck at 100% "Loading System Tools..."
[01:23] <digital_k> arruah: its worth a try.
[01:23] <joe4444> orbin, sorry...misread what you wrote :)
[01:23] <Ronald|Laptop> Postfix+Sasl problem: warning: SASL authentication failure: no secret in database warning: unknown[192.168.0.33] : SASL CRAM-MD5 authentication failed: authentication failure / sasl smtpd.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21950/
[01:23] <Ronald|Laptop> Anybody able to assist?
[01:23] <joe4444> orbin, i tried to click the X and i tried to right-click and choose Close
[01:23] <eyessssss> hello all.. I am a new user to Ubuntu, I need a small help : Can anybody please give me a good site that may help to start with Ubunut?
[01:24] <orbin> joe4444: i got the gist of it.  try running xkill, then clicking on it
[01:24] <cubex> i can't find anyway to completely remove eog
[01:24] <cubex> am i missing anything?
[01:24] <joe4444> actually i finally got it
[01:24] <mc44> eyessssss: help.ubuntu.com
[01:24] <joe4444> tried Alt+F4 on the dialog window and that worked
[01:24] <joe4444> then i got access to the main window again
[01:24] <joe4444> very weird
[01:24] <cherva> help i think ubuntu 7.04 has a major flaw in the HDD control system (i think you will get my point) recently i had an installed ubuntu 6.10 for over 3-4 mounts but when i upgraded to 7.10 my HDD started to ( i don't know how to describe it in english ) very strange from time to time every thing freezes and the HDD makes very strange noice like the pin scratches the disks for a sec and everything starts working normaly. The HDD died ;( then because my 
[01:24] <joe4444> so... now how do i associate .torrent files with KTorrent?
[01:25] <mc44> cherva: that sounds like a hardware problem
[01:25] <CheshireViking> eyessssss, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[01:25] <eyessssss> mc44: ok
[01:26] <cherva> mc44: my HDD is 2 weeks old and it has the same problem as my old one who died 2 weeks after i upgraded to 7.10
[01:26] <mar77i> hi. what kind of data recovery tools are available on ubuntu? I deleted an ntfs partition... I can imagine that something like this even exists for ubuntu, doesn't it?
[01:26] <eyessssss> thanks CheshireViking :)
[01:26] <Ronald|Laptop> cherva: don't you think if that flaw was true it would be shouted out loudly over the internet?
[01:26] <Ronald|Laptop> like
[01:27] <Ronald|Laptop> about as loud as if bill gates married steve jobs :P?
[01:27] <mc44> cherva: ubuntu can't physically break your harddrive
[01:27] <cherva> Ronald|Laptop:maybe i missed that part
[01:28] <cherva> mc44: so there is no connection for that after 2 weeks my hdd brakes TWICE
[01:28] <arruah> digital_k: what distr you recomend to me ?
[01:28] <mc44> cherva: I think ubuntu is probably not the only common factor in your hard disk breaking twice
[01:29] <tokj> hi
[01:29] <cherva> mc44: what do you think it could be ?
[01:29] <mar77i> cherva: check cable connections & try to measure the wire voltages...
[01:29] <CheshireViking> cherva, once is unlucky, a 2nd new drive is likely to be a manufacturing fault, if a hdd is going to break from new, they normally do very quiickly
[01:29] <Ronald|Laptop> cherva: your other hardware perhaps :)
[01:30] <CheshireViking> cherva, or possibly overheating in the case
[01:30] <cherva> mc44: i've installed ubuntu on partition made with partition magic for win there should be no porblem here right ?
[01:30] <mc44> cherva: nope
[01:30] <depesz> hi.
[01:31] <depesz> can you tell me where is ubuntu's inittab file? usually it was /etc/inittab, but i can't find it there. i need it to decrease number of running gettys.
[01:31] <Enverex> !speedstep
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speedstep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <cherva> mc44: i don't need fitness i can just continue moving my pc from home to the service and back ;(
[01:31] <Enverex> Does anything special need to be done to get speedstep to work on C2D processors?
[01:32] <Ronald|Laptop> Enverex: cpufreqd/powernowd
[01:32] <Enverex> Ronald|Laptop, Which of the two is better?
[01:32] <Ronald|Laptop> no clue
[01:32] <Enverex> hrm
[01:32] <Ronald|Laptop> just giving you aa pointer to search with
[01:33] <Frogzoo> Enverex: have you installed the cpufreqd applet? that will show your MHz
[01:33] <Enverex> Frogzoo, It says my processor doesn't support Scaling, which it obviously does, which makes me think I'm missing a kernel module or app
[01:33] <cherva> mc44: ok bye i'll get my pc to service
[01:34] <Frogzoo> Enverex: is C2D based on the Pmobile's scaling or something different? my mobile scales out of the box
[01:35] <Enverex> Frogzoo, Erm, no idea, It's a Core 2 Duo T7200 and idles at 1Ghz in Windows.
[01:36] <Ronald|Laptop> Enverex: i didn't do a thing after my feisty install, and the cpu freq applet shows 1Ghz right now, and the 'ondemand' profile, which is absolutely what I want
[01:36] <Ronald|Laptop> i have a Core original duo though
[01:36] <Enverex> Hrm
[01:36] <Ronald|Laptop> and its a 2Ghz chip
[01:36] <tondar> how would I install kde on gnome using the 7.04 CD?
[01:37] <Enverex> tondar, aptitude install kde-base
[01:37] <tondar> Enverex: will that install off CD>
[01:37] <tondar> ?
[01:37] <Enverex> tondar, KDE isn't on the CD
[01:37] <tondar> Enverex: so you must connect to the net?
[01:38] <Enverex> tondar, Yes
[01:38] <tondar> Enverex: how about if I want to do it on a pc at home?
[01:38] <flac> hi there
[01:38] <Ronald|Laptop> best to fetch a kubuntu cd if you want kde
[01:38] <tondar> Enverex: can I take the package after install at work?
[01:38] <Ronald|Laptop> its not 1 package
[01:38] <Enverex> Ronald|Laptop, That's a bit wasteful
[01:38] <Enverex> tondar, It's like 250 packages
[01:39] <toocrazypt> hi
[01:39] <Ronald|Laptop> could you use a kubuntu cd in your ubuntu sources list ;)
[01:39] <tondar> Enverex: so what should I do if I have multi pcs?
[01:39] <Ronald|Laptop> then he should be able to get both
[01:39] <Enverex> tondar, Copy the files from the /var/cache folder to each PC after downloading it on one
[01:40] <tondar> Ronald|Laptop: do i have to order the kubuntu cd?
[01:40] <avertv-cardbus> hi there! i am a complete newbie and installed ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop. Everything works ok except my tv tuner avermedia avertv cardbus model E501R
[01:40] <Ronald|Laptop> download&burn where you are now?
[01:40] <tondar> Enverex: could I do it with aptoncd app?
[01:40] <avertv-cardbus> dmesg says saa7134[0] : subsystem: 1461:b6e8, board: UNKNOWN/GENERIC [card=0,autodetected] 
[01:40] <avertv-cardbus> saa7134[0] /alsa: saa7134[0]  at 0x54000000 irq 16 registered as card -2
[01:41] <Enverex> tondar, I have no idea what that is
[01:42] <Enverex> Frogzoo, Ronald|Laptop : * Starting power management daemon powersaved                                  FATAL: Module speedstep_centrino not found.
[01:42] <Enverex> That could be why
[01:42] <flac> y) ! I tried many things, my master sound is not at 0, I tried to reinstall alsa, but no sound ... I do not even get the welcoming sound at the opening
[01:42] <tondar> Enverex: you should check it out
[01:42] <flac> I got a question : my sound doesn't work anymore (i'm on Feist
[01:42] <flac> (that's the beginning)
[01:43] <Frogzoo> Enverex: maybe
[01:44] <tondar> where to download the kubuntu cd?
[01:45] <prayer_tramontan> hi
[01:45] <prayer_tramontan> Anyone there who knows how to change SMTP port to 2525 in Evolution Main ?
[01:46] <Enverex> Frogzoo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401267&highlight=speedstep+core+duo&page=2
[01:46] <Enverex> Seems Linux doesn't support the Merom core Core 2 Duos
[01:46] <Enverex> Damn
[01:46] <Frogzoo> ouch
[01:47] <anathematic> !mp3
[01:47] <Laney> np: Aphex Twin - Untitled
[01:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:47] <PSIclops> hi
[01:47] <anathematic> !vlc
[01:47] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:47] <cubex> guys, is there anyway to change the default image viewer in gnome?
[01:47] <anathematic> !codecs
[01:47] <Bluhd> I'm doing a dist-upgrade and it asks me if I want to replace /etc/login.defs.... Do I want to retain my old copy or update to the newer one?
[01:47] <Caroz> hi have anyone here installed Red5 on Fedora disto before ?
[01:47] <cubex> i mean without actually going over all file types right-clicking and changing associations
[01:48] <PSIclops> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:48] <webmind> hello
[01:48] <Frogzoo> Caroz: can I suggest #fedora or whatever?
[01:48] <sipior> prayer_tramontan: interesting. i don't think it's possible. maybe an ssh tunnel will do what you want?
[01:49] <webmind> I'm trying to install feisty on one of these dell workstations which should work with linux
[01:49] <Caroz> okay thanks frogzoo i will try there
[01:49] <flac> did anyone have a no sound problem on Feisty ?
[01:49] <webmind> yet I've got no Xorg xcept for with vesa
[01:49] <prayer_tramontan> sipior: I am all new to Linux so i dont know nothing about it
[01:49] <flac> webmind: what is your graphic card ?
[01:49] <prayer_tramontan> sipior: but i cant find that option in my mail preferences
[01:49] <Frogzoo> !docs | prayer_tramontan
[01:49] <ubotu> prayer_tramontan: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[01:49] <sipior> prayer_tramontan: may i ask why you want to change port numbers? that's a bit unusual for a mail server.
[01:50] <fatal_> webmind: I also found it weird that Dell choose models with Radeon X1xxx graphics cards... those are not supported....
[01:50] <PSIclops> hi ran this command " sudo aptitude purge open-office.org "  and this confusing result came out --->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21971/   how do i uninstall openoffice, since i only want to use abiword
[01:50] <Prognatus> Anybody happens to know the key scan code for Scroll Lock?
[01:50] <prayer_tramontan> sipior: Simply because port 25 is blocked by my ISP
[01:50] <webmind> flac, it's an ATI
[01:50] <webmind> not sure which
[01:50] <fatal_> webmind: try lspci -nn
[01:50] <webmind> er
[01:50] <webmind> fatal_,
[01:51] <flac> webmind: ok I got many problems with these :)
[01:51] <Bluhd> repeating my question (It has gone off-screen)
[01:51] <Bluhd> I'm doing a dist-upgrade and it asks me if I want to replace /etc/login.defs.... Do I want to retain my old copy or update to the newer one?
[01:51] <webmind> first to get a command line back :)
[01:51] <flac> webmind: but don't worry mine works with an ATI
[01:51] <webmind> flac, so it'll probably work ?
[01:51] <flac> webmind: it depends on your model I think
[01:52] <webmind> flac, it says ATI unknown
[01:52] <jordan> Hey guys, I need to know if 2d/3d is rendered on the local or remote client when using XDMCP
[01:52] <prayer_tramontan> Does anyone know another good mailprogram than Evolution mail ?
[01:52] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: thunderbird
[01:52] <spikeb> thunderbird
[01:52] <Frogzoo> Bluhd: unless you've messed around in there & can remember doing it, go with the new file
[01:52] <flac> webmind: what is the result of l ?
[01:52] <prayer_tramontan> Okay i'v read a bit about it, but how to install ?
[01:52] <webmind> l?
[01:52] <Bluhd> Frogzoo: Ok, thanks :)
[01:52] <webmind> lspci gives that
[01:52] <flac> webmind: lspci |grep ATI
[01:52] <webmind> yes
[01:52] <veritanuda> Hi all... Just wondering if anyone has had any experience at setting up bluez to be a print server?
[01:52] <prayer_tramontan> It says i need to open Add Remove programs, but where do i find it
[01:53] <sipior> prayer_tramontan: if they're blocking inbound port 25, there's not much you can do. if you're hoping to have mail directly sent to your machine, you'll need 25 open.
[01:53] <fatal_> jordan: the X server renders the grapics... that's the part you run locally....
[01:53] <webmind> flac, ATI Technologies Inc Unbknown device
[01:53] <jordan> dangit..
[01:53] <Prognatus> Never mind, I found out myself - Scroll Lock scan code is &H46.
[01:53] <flac> webmind: lol Unknown ...
[01:53] <fatal_> webmind: could you use the -nn option so the id's are shown?
[01:53] <prayer_tramontan> sipior: no becuase on my other computers on the network i can use outlook express and ms outlook on port 2525 without problems
[01:53] <fatal_> webmind: also try update-pciids
[01:53] <flac> webmind: have you tried the proprietary device manager of feisty ?
[01:53] <anathematic> where should i got ot download all the libraries and everything vlc player needs including the program it's self for linux?
[01:54] <anathematic> i need to downlaod it on my mac and transfer across btw
[01:54] <Bluhd> anathematic: try running synaptic
[01:54] <sipior> prayer_tramontan: that's very different. are you having mail sent directly to your machine, or are you hoping to connect to an outside machine on port 2525?
[01:54] <webmind> fatal_, I thought I did
[01:54] <flac> anathematic: videolan.org
[01:54] <jordan> fatal_ is there any way, or any other program/protocol that does similar things as xdmcp but renders remotely.. and I mean fast transmission
[01:54] <prayer_tramontan> sipior: I am using my domain providers SMTP server, that are availeble on port 2525
[01:54] <AmirB> I need help with the mac-menubar applet
[01:54] <prayer_tramontan> costumer-smtp.one.com
[01:54] <webmind> flac, yes
[01:54] <fatal_> jordan: you're looking for something like VNC which just does a screen capture -> transfer -> playback ....
[01:55] <Caroz> anyone here can install http://osflash.org/red5/fc4 on my fedora machine i can pay for the work being done
[01:55] <flac> flac: Ok guys I gotta go. Bye
[01:55] <AmirB> anyone have any idea how to compile/use it?
[01:55] <webmind> fatal_, 0300 and 0380
[01:55] <Bluhd> flac: You're talking to yourself :P
[01:55] <flac> Bluhd: ??
[01:55] <webmind> ah
[01:55] <webmind> update helpoed
[01:55] <Bluhd> flac: you said "flac: Ok guys I gotta go. Bye"
[01:55] <jordan> fatal_ yes I know about vnc but I have found it is too slow.  I need large resolutions and fast updating of the screen
[01:55] <webmind> Radeon X1300/X1550
[01:55] <Bluhd> flac: i.e. you were directing that message to yourself
[01:55] <flac> Bluhd: :D I didn't pay attention
[01:55] <webmind> and a X1300 Pro
[01:55] <veritanuda> Come on guys.. ? Is it really such an unusual request...? All I want to do is to be able to print to my laptop over bluetooth.
[01:57] <fatal_> jordan: it would be logical that you want to have local rendering if you want speed..... there's lots of different options for compressing the X protocol to get it to go faster on low bandwidth.... try (Free)NX or similar....
[01:57] <Enverex> When using SCP, how do you escape spaces?
[01:57] <sipior> prayer_tramontan: in that case, you'll only need to switch clients, as i don't believe evolution can specify a different port. could be wrong though. i'd also consider sending a nasty note to your ISP, maybe they can arrange something for you.
[01:57] <prayer_tramontan> Sipior: Yes i have dowloaded thunderbrd
[01:57] <prayer_tramontan> how do I install Thunderbrd ? lol, im new to linux..
[01:57] <prayer_tramontan> i have downloaded and extracted but what file do i need to open ?
[01:58] <fatal_> prayer_tramontan: or switch isp to one that doesn't filter away one of the most fundamental ports used on Internet.... Filtering SMTP traffic to prevent spam is as idiotic as dropping web traffic to prevent popups...
[01:59] <CheshireViking> prayer_tramontan, does this help, it mentions changing port in evolution https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/5393
[01:59] <sipior> fatal_: i tend to agree, but some areas don't get an option for different network carriers.
[01:59] <prayer_tramontan> thank you CheshireViking
[02:00] <sipior> hey, cheers CheshireViking, i'll file that away myself :)
[02:00] <dromer> how can I see what filesystem a hd has? I have a 2.5" ancient hd (still has win95 on it) connected with a 2.5->3.5 converter to a 3.5->usb converter .. my pc doesn't recognize it, and I can't mount it manually because I don't know the filesystem
[02:00] <CheshireViking> prayer_tramontan, also http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9758 suggests the same sort of thing
[02:00] <prayer_tramontan> Can someone tell me how to install Thunderbrd ? I have just downloaded it, and extracted but i dont know witch file to open ,
[02:00] <webmind> fatal_, any idea if those are supported?
[02:01] <johns^> prayer_tramontan: use synaptic
[02:01] <AmirB> how do I compile/use the mac-menubar-applet?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> dromer gparted will show you what you need.. or qtparted etc..
[02:01] <prayer_tramontan> johns^: What is that
[02:01] <fatal_> webmind: I've already said X1xxx are not supported by any free drivers.... blame ATI..... your options are VESA or the crappy proprietary drivers...
[02:02] <orbin> dromer: try sudo fdisk -l
[02:02] <mc44> fatal_: and vesa is screwed on ati in fesity :)
[02:02] <webmind> fatal_, I've got blank screen with the prop. drivers
[02:02] <dromer> Jack_Sparrow: I tried qparted in knoppix (then the drive was connected with ide), but it couldn't touch the drive
[02:02] <webmind> fatal_, so those even work
[02:02] <con-man> wohooooooooooooooo patch 2.1 for world of warcraft came out
[02:03] <sipior> con-man: wow man, you're easily impressed :)
[02:03] <Bluhd> con-man: I'm more excited for starcraft 2 :|
[02:03] <fatal_> webmind: there's a rumour that ATI has promised to get their act together.... I guess now would be a good time for you to contact them and ask when they are going to live up to their promises. ;)
[02:03] <Bluhd> WOOOO ZERGRUSH
[02:03] <dromer> Jack_Sparrow: gparted doesn't see the disk
[02:03] <orbin> AmirB: link?
[02:04] <AmirB> orbin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[02:04] <Caroz> anyone here can install http://osflash.org/red5/fc4 on my fedora machine i can pay for the work being done trough paypal or western union
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> dromer yea, got it... What was the config you were using big drive or small to the adapter
[02:04] <AmirB> orbin: I downloaded the source files and stuff, but I have no idea how to install anything other than .deb files (still a newb)
[02:05] <Glaf> How do i fix the nvidia drivers when the Nvidia kernel module and X module has different versions?
[02:05] <dromer> Jack_Sparrow: it's a 2.5" disk, atm I have it hooked on usb, but I can't mount it because I don't know the type
[02:05] <Bluhd> So does Ubuntu 7.04 have bulletproof X like it said in the roadmap?
[02:05] <dromer> Jack_Sparrow: so 2.5->3.5->usb
[02:05] <mc44> Bluhd: no
[02:05] <webmind> fatal_, ok, I'll do that, thanks.
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> dromer: Some of those adapters do not key the connection and can get reversed..
[02:05] <Bluhd> mc44: ah well
[02:05] <Joelio> Got a problem booting into Feisty after installation on a Dell Optiplex - the only extra is AN NVIDIA graphics card. Tried adding acpi=off to grub line.. no avail
[02:05] <mc44> Bluhd: but 7.10 will :)
[02:06] <Bluhd> mc44: oooh
[02:06] <mc44> Bluhd: (hopefully) :)
[02:06] <sipior> Bluhd: bullet resistant
[02:06] <Bluhd> -nod-
[02:06] <dromer> Jack_Sparrow: I couldn't format it in knoppix when I had it on 2.5->3.5 as ide either
[02:06] <jordan> fatal_ I have a professional network with gigabit speed, theres no way to do a high speed vnc type thing?
[02:06] <MortarMan> hello ,  my friend wanna install feisty fawn , but his pc freezes on the installation window , which is about exporting documents from windows.does somebody know whats up ?
[02:06] <dromer> Unable to open /dev/sda - unrecognised disk label.
[02:06] <ahmed> guys how to install deamon tools in ubuntu
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> dromer: can you connect it driectly to an ide cable inside and bypass the usb?
[02:07] <Joelio> Got a problem booting into Feisty after installation on a Dell Optiplex 320 - the only extra is AN NVIDIA graphics card. Tried adding acpi=off to grub line.. no avail
[02:07] <johns^> MortarMan: the alternate install cd is a lot more reliable
[02:07] <ahmed>  guys how to install deamon tools in ubuntu
[02:07] <AmirB> orbin: anything?
[02:07] <Chat452> cdrecord: faio_wait_on_buffer for writer timed out.
[02:07] <dromer> Jack_Sparrow: yes I had that already, and knoppik could'nt mount it, I just said that 3 times :#
[02:07] <Myrtti> ahmed: what for?
[02:07] <Bluhd> ahmed: daemon tools doesn't have a linux port if I remember correctly
[02:07] <prayer_tramontan> How do i install Thunderbird ?
[02:07] <Joelio> ahmed: daemon tools for mounting isos? this can be done using, mount -t iso9660 -o loop ISO.iso dir/
[02:07] <ahmed> wat to use to mount iso ,bin images then
[02:07] <johns^> prayer_tramontan: use synaptic
[02:07] <Bluhd> ahmed: besides, you can mount ISO images easily
[02:07] <johns^> ahmed: mount
[02:07] <dwight> what is the keyboard shortcut to jump to the panels in gnome..?
[02:07] <Myrtti> !iso | ahmed
[02:07] <ahmed> i hate working with the terminal
[02:07] <ahmed> no software to do it ?
[02:08] <orbin> quick jump to the end of the thread refers to this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868&page=54#532
[02:08] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: yeah, load synaptic and do a package search for "thunderbird"
[02:08] <orbin> AmirB: ^
[02:08] <AmirB> orbin: ?
[02:08] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: if you're new to linux you'll learn how wonderful synaptic is and you'll never ever dislike it :P
[02:08] <aMMuNix> I've been told to install a package using my package manager, but it's not in the list, I'm really new to all this, so please help me :P
[02:08] <sipior> prayer_tramontan: if you've downloaded the tarball from mozilla.org,  there should be an executable called "thunderbird" or the like.
[02:08] <Bluhd> aMMuNix: what package?
[02:08] <orbin> AmirB: quick jump to the end of the thread refers to this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868&page=54#532
[02:08] <johns^> aMMuNix: what package
[02:08] <skip> Help please - my icons in sensor-applet are not visible
[02:08] <ubotu> ahmed: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:09] <Joelio> Anybody else have this trouble? I've installed Feisty from the install CD, everything went fine.. won't boot though, grub comes up but the kernel just hangs after that
[02:09] <AmirB> orbin: great! thanks!
[02:09] <mc44> !info gmountiso | ahmed
[02:09] <ubotu> ahmed: gmountiso: This is Gmountiso, a PyGTK GUI to mount your cd images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 116 kB
[02:09] <aMMuNix> johns^, win32codecs
[02:09] <johns^> use add/remove software
[02:09] <Frogzoo> anyone know why ansi escapes don't work in emacs run in a vt100 window ? (emacs -nw) ?
[02:10] <johns^> aMMuNix: select 'all available software' on the top of that screen
[02:10] <nomad111> i cant get my external lcd to display at 1680x1050 from my laptop
[02:10] <Bluhd> aMMuNix: that might be in the multiverse repository
[02:10] <aMMuNix> alright
[02:10] <p512o> hi! does anyone know, if seahorse-agent is actually working in current feisty? I've trouble with defunct agent processes, unreachable agentsand/ or nonworking password prompts..
[02:10] <nomad111> i dont get it
[02:10] <johns^> and look in other for ubuntu-restricted-extra's
[02:10] <mc44> !winjohwin32codecs isn't availiable by default
[02:10] <johns^> or something like that
[02:10] <mc44> johns^:  win32codecs isn't availiable by default
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nomad111 seems most lappy run ati and there is a driver problem with those
[02:11] <mc44> !w32codecs | aMMuNix
[02:11] <Pici> mc44: Bot is lagged
[02:12] <johns^> mc44: it's available in other packages IFAIK
[02:12] <Joelio> Anybody else have this trouble? I've installed Feisty from the install CD, everything went fine.. won't boot though, grub comes up but the kernel just hangs after that. I'm using a dell optiplex 320 - There were issues with drivers in the series before 2.6.20 - but the kernel is fine.. tired acpi=off too
[02:12] <mc44> johns^: its not in the official repositories
[02:13] <Bluhd> Sometimes I wonder if it's really necessary to have ubuntu generate these locales if I only use one of them
[02:13] <mc44> johns^: so you can't get it through Add/Remove
[02:13] <aMMuNix> johns^, that restricted package will just enable me the use of some restricted packages?
[02:13] <nomad111> Jack_Sparrow: i have intel 945gm
[02:13] <Bluhd> Who ghosted ubotu??
[02:13] <chjunior> where are the default themes of gnome in ubuntu?
[02:13] <Bluhd> er
[02:13] <Bluhd> only one question mark I meant to use
[02:13] <steal> giorno
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> nomad111 did you google to see if it is supported?
[02:13] <steal> scusate una domanda..
[02:13] <steal> posso?
[02:13] <moDumass> evenin all, um, my delete key refuses to delete stuff, it just shakes my screen (some kinda effect)
[02:14] <nomad111> i tried ubuntuforums and wiki.ubuntu but no idea
[02:14] <mc44> !it | steal
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> nomad111 is it running vesa drivers?
[02:14] <Pici> steal: /j #ubuntu-it
[02:14] <nomad111> i dont know wat to search for really
[02:14] <mc44> Pici: /me forgets :)
[02:14] <steal> raga qualche italiano?
[02:14] <nomad111> Jack_Sparrow: how can i find out
[02:14] <CheshireViking> johns^, win32codecs can be installed by using Sevea's repo's
[02:14] <Pici> steal: #ubuntu-it
[02:14] <aMMuNix> johns^, that restricted package will just enable me the use of some restricted packages?
[02:14] <steal> ok
[02:14] <orbin> chjunior: /usr/share/themes
[02:14] <johns^> aMMuNix: it will install a whole bunch of stuff
[02:15] <mc44> aMMuNix: it won't install w32codecs
[02:15] <aMMuNix> what will it do then? and why do I need it
[02:15] <Joelio> Anybody else have this trouble? I've installed Feisty from the install CD, everything went fine.. won't boot though, grub comes up but the kernel just hangs after that. I'm using a dell optiplex 320 - There were issues with drivers in the series before 2.6.20 - but the kernel is fine.. tired acpi=off too. Any ideas at all? Really stuck now
[02:15] <dwight> anyone know the keycombo for the notification area in the gnome-panel?
[02:15] <bobbo> Hi! I think my Synaptic is broken :(  I dont think apt-get is working properly, the update manager wont work and when i run Synaptic i get "Failed to check for installed and available applications
[02:15] <bobbo> This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'."
[02:15] <aMMuNix> I wanna start understanding stuff instead of just following steps
[02:15] <CheshireViking> Bluhd, mc44, what did you do to the bot, licking & slapping it, its gone on strike & quit :)
[02:16] <Bluhd> Eh, what?
[02:16] <mc44> aMMuNix: w32codecs has some codecs for formats such as .wma
[02:16] <Bluhd> CheshireViking: See, it's just fine.
[02:16] <Biohazard> re
[02:16] <Bluhd> :D
[02:16] <aMMuNix> I know, I need it to use some program with wine, but I can't find it
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> nomad111 read this and see if that helps  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274398
[02:16] <CheshireViking> Bluhd, its back, it disappeared offline for a min
[02:17] <mc44> aMMuNix: you can't find wine?
[02:17] <Pici> ubotu: ping
[02:17] <aMMuNix> lol, you misunderstand me
[02:17] <Bluhd> Wow, apt-get is really booking now
[02:17] <Bluhd> Go, go, go!
[02:17] <mc44> aMMuNix: you can't get w32codecs?
[02:17] <aMMuNix> I can't see it
[02:17] <chjunior> orbin, thanks! :D
[02:17] <spikeb> doesnt ffmpeg do everything that w32codecs can?
[02:17] <Merjin> how do I see how much free disk space I have?
[02:17] <johns^> mc44: You're right. It's in medibuntu
[02:17] <johns^> Merjin: df -h
[02:17] <ubotu> pong
[02:17] <Merjin> thanks
[02:18] <mc44> aMMuNix: because it isn't in the ubuntu repositories, you need to use an external repository
[02:18] <aMMuNix> how do I do that
[02:18] <bobbo> can anyone help with my apt/synaptic problem?
[02:18] <CheshireViking> !seveas | aMMuNix, try Sevea's repos for w32codecs
[02:18] <johns^> aMMuNix: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[02:18] <Seveas> CheshireViking, bot has lag poblem,s
[02:18] <Pici> bobbo: Have you tried running  'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'."
[02:18] <bobbo> yes
[02:18] <aMMuNix> k hold on
[02:18] <bobbo> still the same errors
[02:18] <ubotu> aMMuNix, try Sevea's repos for w32codecs: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:18] <CheshireViking> Seveas, ok, thanks
[02:20] <prayer_tramontan> ok, all is fixed now thanks to Thunderbird, thanks for ur help gyes
[02:20] <prayer_tramontan> guys*
[02:20] <Bluhd> no problem
[02:21] <aMMuNix> johns^, thanks, now I can see w32codecs in the package manager
[02:21] <moDumass> asd
[02:21] <johns^> aMMuNix: yw
[02:21] <moDumass> hmm, ive masshed my collours
[02:21] <fester225> How do I edit something protected by root?
[02:22] <mc44> fester225: sudo
[02:22] <VSpike> fester225: gksudo gedit file.txt
[02:22] <gordboy> i used the medibuntu w32codecs, is that wrong ?
[02:22] <mc44> gordboy: define "wrong" :)
[02:22] <mc44> gordboy: but, no
[02:22] <ablyss> sometime if you right click a file.. a submenu will pop up saying "edit as root"
[02:22] <moDumass> l
[02:22] <gordboy> mc44: someone was saying about seveas repo
[02:22] <prayer_tramontan> But now I have thunderbird in a folder , isn't it possible to use it every time i click on the Email logo in the top bar ?
[02:22] <bobbo> My Ubuntu tells me that i have a broken package on my computer and to use the broken filter, how do i do this?
[02:23] <mc44> gordboy: doesn't make much difference
[02:23] <Seveas> gordboy, w32codes is the same in both repos :)
[02:23] <WaxyFresh> for some reason i cant conect to the repos anymore,this has happend before and i was forced to reinstall,all i know is that it has something to do with tor/foxyproxy or some firewall/proxy type thingy
[02:23] <CCmonster> is there a way to play wmv in linux?
[02:23] <CCmonster> none of my players will handle it
[02:23] <johns^> prayer_tramontan: you didn't install through synaptic/
[02:23] <johns^> ?
[02:23] <DVS01> is there a linux equivalent for nero?
[02:23] <WaxyFresh> !media | CCmonster:
[02:23] <Seveas> CCmonster, install w32codecs, mplayer adn gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[02:24] <ubotu> CCmonster:: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:24] <johns^> DVS01: k3b
[02:24] <prayer_tramontan> Johns^: I dont know what it is and how to install it:S
[02:24] <savetheWorld> k3b
[02:24] <DVS01> k3b lets me do everything nero does?
[02:24] <gordboy> mc44, Seveas : right. that's what i thought. i was interested to hear about w64codecs tho. is that for real or just wrappers ?
[02:24] <WaxyFresh> !codecs | CCmonster
[02:24] <ubotu> CCmonster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:24] <johns^> prayer_tramontan: synaptic is your package manager. it's in 'system'
[02:24] <savetheWorld> apt install k3b << that should do it, I think
[02:24] <belfegor> hello i have installed xchat and i dont see in the right part of the screen the users
[02:24] <CCmonster> i can hear the audio on this file, just no video
[02:24] <DVS01> i have it
[02:24] <belfegor> what should i do?
[02:24] <johns^> prayer_tramontan: no need to download and install manually, synaptic will do that for you
[02:24] <DBO> savetheWorld, sudo aptitude install k3b
[02:24] <mc44> gordboy: its rather small, so I don't think it has many codecs
[02:25] <prayer_tramontan> Johns^:Okay and how do i Use it
[02:25] <Bluhd> I keep getting this strange error in apt-get, and I think it's because I selected "none" when it asked for MD arrays
[02:25] <Bluhd> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=36266
[02:25] <johns^> DVS01: and install libk3b2-mp3
[02:25] <savetheWorld> DBO: OK. :-)
[02:25] <DVS01> thanks johns
[02:25] <IdleOne> belfegor, point mouse on right side of screen then click and drag
[02:25] <savetheWorld> gordo!
[02:25] <johns^> DVS01: it will install kde stuff, like libs. but it's a good cd/dvd burner
[02:25] <gordboy> savetheWorld: good afternoon
[02:25] <DVS01> it looks good so far
[02:25] <WaxyFresh> help! i cant conect to the repos anymore,this has happend before and i was forced to reinstall,all i know is that it has something to do with tor/foxyproxy or some firewall/proxy type thingy
[02:25] <ziroda1> has anyone got any experience with truecrypt and forcefiled
[02:25] <prayer_tramontan> Johns^: How do I find and use Synaptis ?
[02:26] <IdleOne> WaxyFresh, paste /ect/apt/sources.list to !pastebin
[02:26] <WaxyFresh> prayer_tramontan: it shbould be in your sytstem dropdown menu,as for useing it there shold be a how to online
[02:26] <IdleOne> !pastebin | WaxyFresh
[02:26] <ubotu> WaxyFresh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:26] <johns^> prayer_tramontan: You've got a menu bar somewhere, with a 'System' button
[02:26] <WaxyFresh> !paste
[02:26] <BigBaconAndEggs> hey does anyone have a link to the changelog for 7.04?
[02:26] <johns^> prayer_tramontan: in a terminal you could type 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird'
[02:27] <WaxyFresh> lol missed that^
[02:27] <johns^> that would do the same
[02:27] <prayer_tramontan> Johns^: ok thanks
[02:27] <IdleOne> BigBaconAndEggs, www.ubuntu.com should have a link on there
[02:27] <Bluhd> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=36266 << this is somewhat urgent, could someone check this out?
[02:28] <johns^> prayer_tramontan: look around in synaptic. it's a great tool. You hardly have to download/install/upgrade manually in Ubuntu (or any Linux distro ;) ). It's soooo user friendly :)
[02:28] <BigBaconAndEggs> IdleOne: okay cheers :)
[02:28] <BigBaconAndEggs> just couldnt find it before :Z
[02:28] <IdleOne> no problem
[02:29] <youbuntu> my audio mic input is very quiet( at play back) kmix mic volume is up with mic boost selected - an ideas on how to increace mic gain more?
[02:30] <voraistos> HI. I have a question about *other* linux distros.
[02:30] <johns^> youbuntu: I had that with line in. I used alsamixer in a terminal and looked for the 'capture' slide. it was way down
[02:30] <voraistos> How come some companies can charge for it ?
[02:30] <Chat452> cdrecord: faio_wait_on_buffer for writer timed out.
[02:30] <Deztorix> Okay I've got a little problem...I can't boot my windows anymore... I installed ubuntu but I'm not sure if it fully installed so I just deleted its partition and well now when I go to boot my pc it says :A disk read error..press ctrl alt del to restart.
[02:30] <johns^> voraistos: because they do a lot of work
[02:30] <SlimeyPete> voraistos: it's perfectly legal to charge for Linux, as long as you give away the source code for any modifications you've made to it
[02:31] <Bluhd> Deztorix: sounds like something bigger than a "little problem"
[02:31] <SlimeyPete> voraistos: Canaonical/Ubuntu could charge if they wanted to.
[02:31] <WaxyFresh> IdleOne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21972/
[02:31] <savetheWorld> voraistos: You can charge  for GPL software if you want  - but you must release the soruce code.  Most people charge for support/service subscriptions instead of the actual product. Tahts what RedHat does  for example
[02:31] <IdleOne> voraistos, all linux distro's can be " charged for" just that some companies choose to not charge anything and some choose to charge for enterprise versions only
[02:31] <Bluhd> Deztorix: You might have overwritten your windows partition, but it's more likely that you simply messed up the boot sector
[02:31] <CCmonster> ok, it says, Windows Media Video 9 for video and MS Windows Media Audio 2 (ffmpeg)
[02:31] <CCmonster> for this file
[02:31] <Deztorix> lol yeah Bluhd...it is..well I can see the files when I boot ubuntu  live thingy. but it just wont boot
[02:31] <CCmonster> audio runs fine,
[02:31] <voraistos> but it is supposed to be based on the GPL, and the GPL says you cant charge for the software, but you can charge for the support
[02:31] <Bluhd> Deztorix: there are some programs out there that let you repair the Windows NT Boot sector
[02:31] <CCmonster> video is being sketchy,
[02:31] <CCmonster> i went and added some gstreamer codecs, and no luck
[02:31] <prayer_tramontan> John^: Ok i have used Synaptic now and it works , thank you
[02:32] <mjr> voraistos, the GPL says no such thing
[02:32] <SlimeyPete> voraistos: the GPL doesn't say that at all.
[02:32] <Deztorix> so what would I google?
[02:32] <WaxyFresh> IdleOne: i just removed the part that automatix installed,still no luck:Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:32] <voraistos> ok. maybe i messed up with another license
[02:32] <PTRx2> Deztorix: Put your XP cd in and boot to the Windows recovery console, and type FIXBOOT press enter then type FIXMBR
[02:32] <IdleOne> WaxyFresh, you just found your problem
[02:32] <SlimeyPete> voraistos: it says that if you modify the software and distribute it, you must release the source code for free. You can charge as much as you like for the compiled version.
[02:32] <Deztorix> okay well I dont have the same windows xp cd, should this matter?
[02:32] <IdleOne> WaxyFresh, automatix breaks more then it installs
[02:32] <IdleOne> !automatix
[02:32] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> HAs automatix improved enough to try it.  I remember before you could not easilly undo the non-std stuff it did to your system?
[02:33] <Deztorix> my computer has winxp sp1 and the disc ive got has sp2.
[02:33] <IdleOne> Jack_Sparrow, at your own risk and dont expect support in here
[02:33] <IdleOne> try #automatix
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Agreed..
[02:33] <voraistos> SlimeyPete: ok thanks. ill try to look for some people's code and sue them if i cant :P
[02:33] <Bluhd> Deztorix: you'll need to get to the recovery console somehow, and run FIXBOOT
[02:33] <Knar1> can anyone help me with the following problem ? Sometimes I 'drop the line
[02:33] <Knar1>  ' on only some programs
[02:33] <Deztorix> um okay, I'll give it ago
[02:33] <PTRx2> Deztorix: Doesn't matter, when you boot off the cd it will ask you to press r to enter the recovery console
[02:34] <Bluhd> Deztorix: I have windows XP home so I had to use a tool that blanks the admin password (because it's impossible to log in to recovery console under XP home)
[02:34] <Frogzoo> Jack_Sparrow: ask that question in #automatix, if anything goes wrong for you, we'd prefer you don't come back here
[02:34] <PTRx2> Deztorix: FIXMBR will be the command that fixes your problem
[02:34] <Bluhd> yeah
[02:34] <Bluhd> not fixboot
[02:34] <Bluhd> fixmbr
[02:34] <kairu0> i have an etch samba domain member server that is having a problem. if i log in, and then try to SU, it prompts me for the password twice (because it fails looking up "root" on the domain the 1st time.) how can i fix this?
[02:34] <vbabiy> hey has any one used MultiSync
[02:34] <WaxyFresh> IdleOne:im aware of that,but im sure this problem was not caused by automatix,this has happend before and the beest i can figure out is that its related to tro/foxyproxy/some other firewall/proxy
[02:34] <WaxyFresh> /join#automatix
[02:34] <Deztorix> okay thanks guys, Ill give this ago
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> frogzoo.. If you ask if Automatix works in Automatix what do you think their answer would be.  I was just wanting to confim it has not gotten any better.
[02:35] <Bluhd> Deztorix: after you run fixmbr you will need to get grub running again
[02:35] <hypn0> Jack_Sparrow: you don't need automatix now
[02:35] <PTRx2> Good luck
[02:35] <Deztorix> grub? doing th wont loose my data right?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> I never needed #Automatix before..
[02:35] <IdleOne> WaxyFresh, sorry to tell you but you probably have to do a fresh install. cant help you with it
[02:35] <Bluhd> Deztorix: grub is needed if you want to choose your operating system at boot
[02:35] <jayson> Hi People Why My Pentium D Showing Only One Core in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn ?
[02:35] <Bluhd> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=36266 << I still need to get this problem fixed before I do a reboot
[02:35] <voraistos> Jack_sparrow : the easier non broken way to do the same thing would be to follow the wiki and make an .sh script out of it.
[02:35] <Frogzoo> I personally don't get the automatix hostility thing, it's foss, just not supported here
[02:36] <Deztorix> I dont want to choose Iwant it to auto go winxp
[02:36] <Bluhd> ah
[02:36] <Bluhd> ok
[02:36] <Bluhd> then fixmbr is all you need to run
[02:36] <PTRx2> Deztorix: You deleted your ubuntu partition so don't worry about Grup
[02:36] <Deztorix> awesome.
[02:36] <PTRx2> grub, my bad
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Deztorix: easy enough to fix
[02:37] <IdleOne> Frogzoo, I have nothing againts automatix. it would be a great application if it didnt force it's way into making things work
[02:37] <Deztorix> opka so the disc is in..and at windows xp pro setup... it says to repair a windows xp installation using recovry console press r..
[02:37] <Deztorix> I do this?
[02:37] <kdubois> join #videolan
[02:37] <Chat452> cdrecord: faio_wait_on_buffer for writer timed out.
[02:37] <youbuntu> johns^ : trying alsamixer...not sure how to use it
[02:38] <IdleOne> !spam | kdubois
[02:38] <ubotu> kdubois: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[02:38] <PTRx2> Yes
[02:38] <PTRx2> Press r
[02:38] <PTRx2> then it will ask you which drive to load
[02:38] <zaggynl> err, what's wrong here : 'Error reading /home/zaggynl/.nano_history: Permission denied'
[02:38] <voraistos> Deztorix: i think you should go on a windows or microsoft channel for this
[02:38] <Bluhd> PTRx2: it will also ask for the admin password
[02:38] <PTRx2> you sould probably press 1 and then enter for your C:
[02:38] <Deztorix> nah voraistos..theses guys know what they are doing
[02:38] <IdleOne> zaggynl, try using sudo
[02:38] <PTRx2> Bluhd: It might, might not, I've seen it both ways
[02:38] <zaggynl> I'm trying to edit a file on my desktop, in my home folder
[02:39] <SmSpillaz> !Language
[02:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:39] <Bluhd> voraistos: I've had to do this myself, so I know what I'm doing as well
[02:39] <PTRx2> If it does there are ways around that
[02:39] <SmSpillaz> thanks ubotu :)
[02:39] <voraistos> Bluhd ok :)
[02:39] <Bluhd> PTRx2: tell me about it ;)
[02:39] <aMMuNix> does desktop effects have any system requirements?
[02:39] <Bluhd> PTRx2: I had to get a (somewhat illegal) bootcd just so I could get to the recovery console
[02:40] <Bluhd> PTRx2: the entire bootcd just for a single utility
[02:40] <IdleOne> zaggynl, sudo nano file.name
[02:40] <zaggynl> why do I need root to edit a file in my home folder
[02:40] <jayson> Hi People Why My Pentium D Showing Only One Core in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn ?
[02:40] <Bluhd> you don't.
[02:40] <dawn_chorus> IdleOne, use sudo for files in the /home folder?
[02:40] <PTRx2> Bluhd: Same with me. I used UBCD4WIN, although that is a legal solution
[02:40] <zaggynl> ill change ownership to myself
[02:40] <voraistos> aMMuNix : what do you have ?
[02:40] <Bluhd> PTRx2: ah, see, if I had known about UBCD4WIN I probably would have used it
[02:40] <WaxyFresh> um i installed a few anon proxys on my system and now ther causeing problems,the problem is i dont remember what i installed.is thre anyway to find out?
[02:40] <zaggynl> there, fixed it
[02:40] <youbuntu> johns^ figured it out all on full
[02:40] <IdleOne> zaggynl, perhaps the permissions are wrong beats me but it wants you to use sudo
[02:41] <aMMuNix> voraistos it's a P4 intel, not sure about the graphics card
[02:41] <aMMuNix> how can I check?
[02:41] <voraistos> yep
[02:41] <johns^> youbuntu: ah ok, i was just typing an answer :)
[02:41] <voraistos> aMMuNix : lspci
[02:41] <voraistos> that should tell you somewhere what your graphics card is
[02:41] <infinito> does anyone know a way to make ESD to listen for tcp/ip connections?
[02:41] <Frogzoo> WaxyFresh: maybe "dpkg --get-selection | less"
[02:42] <Bluhd> well, I'm going to run sudo apt-get check and then reboot
[02:42] <aMMuNix> it told me a lot of things
[02:42] <Bluhd> I hope this works
[02:42] <aMMuNix> VGA compatible controller?
[02:42] <youbuntu> johns^ : ok thanks........on full, but still not loud
[02:42] <Bluhd> no broken packages.... time for reboot
[02:42] <Bluhd> brb
[02:42] <voraistos> aMMuNix: err, yeah, it says nothing else ?
[02:42] <aMMuNix> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400/G450 (rev 04)
[02:42] <johns^> youbuntu: hm, maybe some of the other options. I'll look brb
[02:42] <voraistos> aMMuNix : damn
[02:43] <voraistos> i think you are doomed. but if there are open source drivers
[02:43] <voraistos> with dri support
[02:43] <voraistos> try glxinfo
[02:43] <voraistos> and give me the output
[02:43] <aMMuNix> Just wanted to know if it's supported, no worries if it's not
[02:43] <WaxyFresh> can anyone list some common proxy servies and tor related packages?
[02:43] <johns^> youbuntu: the 'Mic' slider? PCM slider?
[02:43] <mjr> G400/450 should have at least some DRI support
[02:43] <WaxyFresh> Frogzoo: no luck just a blank screen with END at teh bottom
[02:43] <soundray> aMMuNix: I think the open source mga driver is accelerated, so it should work.
[02:44] <Frogzoo> WaxyFresh: maybe "dpkg --get-selections | less"
[02:44] <johns^> getting sound into linux is hard ;) Been messing with ubuntustudio and DeMuDi and 64before that
[02:44] <aMMuNix> alright, and don't worry about me, this is a temp rig :P
[02:44] <youbuntu> johns^ pcm on full, mic on full
[02:44] <voraistos> aMMuNix: if there is MESA DRI somewhere in glxinfo, you are good
[02:44] <aMMuNix> erm
[02:44] <youbuntu> boost +20
[02:44] <aMMuNix> lots of things written there, lemme see
[02:45] <voraistos> beginning of the file
[02:45] <johns^> youbuntu: try running alsamixer like this: alsamixer -V capture
[02:45] <voraistos> aMMuNix : glxinfo | grep DRI
[02:45] <Bluhd> yay it worked
[02:46] <Bluhd> I think
[02:46] <hollow87> howdy, i was wondering how to check the chipset of my wireless adapter
[02:46] <johns^> youbuntu: after that I'm through ideas :(
[02:46] <jayson> Hi People Why My Pentium D Showing Only One Core in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn ?
[02:46] <aMMuNix> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20061030 AGP 1x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
[02:46] <voraistos> yeah, peace of cake
[02:46] <aMMuNix> good :)
[02:46] <voraistos> so, technically, it should work
[02:46] <aMMuNix> will it work good? :P
[02:46] <voraistos> dunno
[02:46] <aMMuNix> well I'ma try anyway
[02:47] <voraistos> those ar not very good graphics card i think, BUT
[02:47] <Deztorix> guys I still got an error.
[02:47] <voraistos> with an old intel graphics card you can run beryl quite nicely
[02:47] <Deztorix> I still get A disk read error occurred.
[02:47] <orbin> hollow87: in a terminal, run lspci or lsusb depending on the adapter type.  then search for the wireless line.
[02:48] <hollow87> ok thx
[02:48] <aMMuNix> well it pretty much makes every window glichy :P
[02:48] <voraistos> aMMuNix: be carefull however, when you get the fancy options on beryl it might use your cpu, and possibly crash :(
[02:48] <Bluhd> Haha, this is interesting. Apparently I have my network set up so that I don
[02:48] <Bluhd> er
[02:48] <Bluhd> wait a second
[02:48] <aMMuNix> not using beryl
[02:48] <hollow87> brb forgot to plug it in from other computer
[02:48] <Bluhd> something is messed up
[02:48] <aMMuNix> just desktop effects on ubuntu
[02:48] <PTRx2> Deztorix: did you have to type in a password?
[02:48] <aMMuNix> or is that beryl :P
[02:48] <Bluhd> my apostrophe key isnt working properly
[02:49] <Deztorix> yeah admin is blank
[02:49] <Deztorix> so I hit enter
[02:49] <voraistos> aMMuNix : ?? oh yeah, i dont know about that, it might be the old compiz.
[02:49] <Deztorix> then it said to type commant
[02:49] <Deztorix> command.
[02:49] <Bluhd> it is behaving as an accent key so I can type things like     
[02:49] <Deztorix> or w/e it says.
[02:49] <aMMuNix> well whatever
[02:49] <aMMuNix> like I said, temp rig
[02:49] <voraistos> aMMuNix : so it should work nicely
[02:49] <voraistos> at some point :P
[02:49] <cables> Has anyone noticed AIM connections in Pidgin being dodgy? How about in Gaim?
[02:49] <aMMuNix> ok, thanks
[02:49] <aMMuNix> I'ma leave now, thanks again
[02:50] <voraistos> Bluhd: great, how did you get this feature ?
[02:50] <PTRx2> Deztorix: Did the error occur when you typed FIXMBR?
[02:50] <Frogzoo> Bluhd: you're using a dead keys keyboard map
[02:50] <Deztorix> nope it said everything went fine
[02:50] <Deztorix> the error occurs when booting.
[02:50] <PTRx2> What is the exact text of the error?
[02:51] <hypn0> cables: try #pidgin
[02:51] <soundray> Bluhd: to get a quote character, hit the key twice. To get rid of this behaviour, install a keymap with the "nodeadkeys" option.
[02:51] <Deztorix> one sec
[02:51] <Deztorix> this:
[02:51] <Deztorix> A Disk read error occurred
[02:51] <Deztorix> Press ctrl alt del to restart
[02:52] <cables> hypn0, I did, and it's pretty much all devs there, and they only use Jabber :)
[02:52] <youbuntu> john^s ok thanks i will continue with this for a while...
[02:52] <Bluhd> soundray: ah, the dist-upgrade set my default layout to the dead-keys one
[02:52] <johns^> youbuntu: goodluck
[02:52] <youbuntu> thanks
[02:53] <DaveTarmac> Ok, anyone got any idea why I can connect to the network (now WEP), but DHCP isn't working on my feisty installation?
[02:53] <hypn0> how can you use aim after they did that to gaim devs, you should be ashamed of urself cables :-)
[02:53] <Deztorix> this is the error I've gotten for people whome were helping me
 this:
 A Disk read error occurred
 Press ctrl alt del to restart
[02:53] <PTRx2> Deztorix: try it again running FIXMBR followed by FIXBOOT
[02:53] <cables> hypn0, lol
[02:53] <Deztorix> okay.
[02:55] <DaveTarmac> the wifi card finds the AP/Router, I can apparently connect to it, but cannot do any internet things (browse web, update). When I look at the connection information - it says no IP. If I try to give a static IP, I still can't get out anywhere
[02:56] <ubuntu___> i have ubuntu installed on /dev/hda2 with grub, and windows is on the MBR and /dev/hda1. for some reason, as of this morning, whenever i try and load into GRUB at the windows loader, i am meat with GRUB _  - and nothing else happens. Any ideas?
[02:56] <prayer_tramontan> I'v just installed Bittornado, but i cant see where it's listed and where to open the program ?
[02:57] <ubuntu___> prayer_tamotan alt+f2, then entering bittornado should work
[02:57] <IdleOne> prayer_tramontan, should be under Apllications>Internet or else just type the app name in terminal to start it
[02:58] <WaxyFresh> how do i use the force comand with apt-get remove?
[02:58] <prayer_tramontan> Ah yes its listed in Applications.. Does EVERY program I install, does that goes under the Applications?
[02:58] <IdleOne> prayer_tramontan, most of them dobut not always
[02:59] <prayer_tramontan> IdleOne: okay thnx
[02:59] <ubuntu___> i have ubuntu installed on /dev/hda2 with grub, and windows is on the MBR and /dev/hda1. for some reason, as of this morning, whenever i try and load into GRUB at the windows loader, i am meat with GRUB _  - and nothing else happens. Any ideas?
[02:59] <babo> guys, does anyone have that tutorial on associating the skype: protocol in firefox handy ?
[02:59] <prayer_tramontan> Hey does Ubuntu have a interated Firewall ?
[03:00] <cinex> iptables
[03:00] <CheshireViking> !iptables | prayer_tramontan
[03:00] <ubotu> prayer_tramontan: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:00] <WaxyFresh> prayer_tramontan: but it dosent need one
[03:00] <Bluhd> anyone know a good "junk" process that uses a bunch of CPU so I can test to see if I've got the right sensor for my cpu core?
[03:00] <ubuntu___> i just tried reinstalling ubuntu and grub - but i still get stuck with GRUB _
[03:00] <prayer_tramontan> okay i was thinking when i need to open a port where to go ..
[03:00] <NiceGuyUK> Bluhd: yeah, firefox :P
[03:00] <Bluhd> lol
[03:00] <prayer_tramontan> like in windows i go in controle panel, windows firewall, open ports there
[03:00] <Pelo> damit,  each time I restart two instances of frostwire get started and it's unchecked in sessions
[03:00] <IdleOne> Bluhd, run firefox and a couple of sound apps and that should do it
[03:01] <saispo> with useradmin it's not possible to configure an ldap authentification ?
[03:01] <WaxyFresh> how do i combine the --force comand with sudo apt-get remove package?
[03:01] <NiceGuyUK> I used to have a bash script that was a fork-spawner. That's do it
[03:01] <Bluhd> michael@Ubuntu:~$ sensors
[03:01] <Bluhd> k8temp-pci-00c3
[03:01] <Bluhd> Adapter: PCI adapter
[03:01] <Bluhd> Core0 Temp:
[03:01] <Bluhd>              +43C
[03:01] <Bluhd> it says PCI but the temperature increases with CPU load
[03:01] <Pelo> brb maybe
[03:02] <NiceGuyUK> ooh, hot PCI action ;)
[03:02] <youbuntu> johns^ it seem to be bit louder - not sure what change did this - thanks ....
[03:02] <prayer_tramontan> Lol this is my first day using Linux Ubuntu, and i preffer it more than windows now, also if I dont know so much :D
[03:03] <ziroday> anyone help me make a mountpoint
[03:03] <sipior> ziroday: mkdir /mnt ?
[03:04] <hypn0> ziroday: its just a directory
[03:04] <Deztorix> still didn't work for people who were helping me, maybe if I restore system files..or what ever the winxp cd has..
[03:04] <Bluhd> Can I restart something in init.d to update my sensor info? It added lines to /etc/modules
[03:04] <ziroday> thanks ill try
[03:04] <dawn_chorus> ziroday, a mount point is just a directory.  use create it the same way you create any other directory.  :)
[03:04] <ubuntu___> i have ubuntu installed on /dev/hda2 with grub, and windows is on the MBR and /dev/hda1. for some reason, as of this morning, whenever i try and load into GRUB at the windows loader, i am meat with GRUB _  - and nothing else happens. Any ideas?
[03:05] <PTRx2> Deztorix: I would suggest reinstalling Windows without formating
[03:05] <Deztorix> without reformatting?
[03:05] <Deztorix> Please explain...
[03:06] <sdac> hi i've been using fiesty xubuntu with reiserf file system, for the last week my /data partition which i use to store all my files had 40 GB free... but today i open the machine and see that there is 71GB free.   what happened ???
[03:06] <saispo> all is lost :)
[03:06] <Riot777> how to stop firestarter from logging everything into syslog :/ ?
[03:07] <sdac> saispo: was that for me ?
[03:07] <soundray> ubuntu___: has your partitioning changed?
[03:07] <prayer_tramontan> Is there a big diffrent on the latest ubuntu and the version just before ?
[03:07] <orbin> Bluhd: well that's just a textfile that specifies whcih modules you wish to load at boot.  you can use modprobe to load it immediately
[03:07] <CheshireViking> sdac, did you have some deleted files in the wastebin thats been emptied since last time you checked free space?
[03:07] <SlimeyPete> prayer_tramontan: not a huge difference. Edgy (the one before) didn't have the Restricted Hardware Manager or Desktop Effects.
[03:08] <Bluhd> Haha, oh wow. By removing all the obsolete kernels and their headers, I'm freeing 445 megs
[03:08] <sdac> no..files in bin couldnt have been > 1GB at max
[03:08] <SlimeyPete> and obviously the kernel & apps are a bit more up-to-date in the new one
[03:08] <NiceGuyUK> SlimeyPete: how do you get to that Restricted HArdware thingy?
[03:08] <prayer_tramontan> ok im using 6.10 now, should i update to newest ?
[03:08] <Riot777> how to stop firestarter from logging everything into syslog ?
[03:08] <SlimeyPete> NiceGuyUK: it's in the menus at the top. System -> Administration I think? I can't remember (I'm on Kubuntu now)
[03:08] <PTRx2> Deztorix: Run your xp install cd
[03:08] <WaxyFresh> i have tor running how do i stop it so i can uninstall it?apt-get says this:Stopping tor daemon: There is no /var/run/tor directory.
[03:08] <WaxyFresh> invoke-rc.d: initscript tor, action "stop" failed.
[03:08] <johns^> prayer_tramontan: I like 7.04 better then 6.10
[03:08] <NiceGuyUK> SlimeyPete: oh, its not in Kubuntu? no wonder I never saw it
[03:08] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: if you want to update it'll take several hours to get all the new files
[03:08] <PTRx2> Deztorix: where you pressed r before press enter
[03:08] <sdac> CheshireViking: ill go through and open a bunch of files to on the system to see if anythin is corrupted... is reiserf know for things like this ?
[03:09] <SlimeyPete> NiceGuyUK: well, I haven't found it in Kubuntu.
[03:09] <PTRx2> Deztorix: then the license agreement will come up and you can just press f8
[03:09] <Deztorix> oh yeah
[03:09] <CheshireViking> sdac, i don't know about resierf, i don't use it
[03:09] <Deztorix> im doing that now
[03:09] <Deztorix> thanks.
[03:09] <NiceGuyUK> SlimeyPete: maybe Kubuntu doesn't restrict your hardware like GNOME does :P
[03:09] <prayer_tramontan> Bluhd: i download with 1600kb/sk how much does it occupate?
[03:09] <Deztorix> and it says would you like to install a fresh coppy or fix a previous
[03:09] <lethu> Riot777, there is one ugly hack for that but it works well :)
[03:09] <Riot777> yes plz tell me :P I like ugly hacks
[03:10] <Riot777> I done this before but don't remember
[03:10] <NiceGuyUK> Riot777: I dated a few ugly hacks ;)
[03:10] <PTRx2> Deztorix: then DO NOT install a clean verison of XP instead it will ask if you want to repair by pressing r
[03:10] <soundray> prayer_tramontan: it will only take minutes at your network speed (a few hundred megabytes to download, depending on what's installed)
[03:10] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: oh, you must have the 10meg thing from insight
[03:10] <lethu> Riot777, lol k one moment please
[03:10] <Riot777> kk
[03:10] <Deztorix> yeah i did thanks, you got me worryed with them caps:(
[03:10] <soundray> ubuntu___: has your partitioning changed?
[03:10] <PTRx2> Deztorix: Do that and you will not loose any of your apps or data
[03:10] <prayer_tramontan> Bluhd: I have 15mbit from my ISP, but i receive about 16mbit
[03:11] <WaxyFresh> how do i stop tor?apt-get said:Stopping tor daemon: There is no /var/run/tor directory.
[03:11] <WaxyFresh> invoke-rc.d: initscript tor, action "stop" failed.
[03:11] <Deztorix> Awesome, thanks we will see how this goes.
[03:11] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: nice! it shouldn't take that long then
[03:11] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: now, before you upgrade
[03:11] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: I need to know some things: Are you going from 6.10 to 7.04 without using a CD?
[03:11] <PTRx2> Deztorix: if that doesn't work then obviously a clean format and install will solve your problem
[03:11] <Deztorix> yeah
[03:11] <Deztorix> I can always do a live boot of vista
[03:11] <prayer_tramontan> Bluhd: Yes i dont wanna burn a cd if its not nessesary
[03:11] <Deztorix> not vista
[03:11] <Deztorix> ubuntu
[03:11] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: ok
[03:12] <Deztorix> then get my files
[03:12] <prayer_tramontan> Bluhd: Where can I update then ?
[03:12] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan:  just a sec
[03:12] <PTRx2> Deztorix: See how Linux keeps you coming back for more?
[03:12] <prayer_tramontan> Bluhd: thank you :)
[03:12] <Deztorix> noooooooooooooo
[03:12] <Deztorix> same error
[03:12] <lethu> Riot777, go to "/etc/firestarter/configuration" and comment out the last line
[03:12] <Deztorix> biiiitttchh
[03:12] <Riot777> lethu: <3 thx
[03:12] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:12] <lethu> Riot777, that should be "LOG_LEVEL=info"
[03:13] <prayer_tramontan> Bluhd: Should i write that in my terminal ?
[03:13] <lethu> Riot777, yw :)
[03:13] <Bluhd> yes
[03:13] <prayer_tramontan> ok
[03:13] <soundray> Bluhd: please don't recommend a manual upgrade, unless update-manager has failed ( prayer_tramontan)
[03:13] <PTRx2> Deztorix: Well sorry it didn't work out for you
[03:13] <ror> found "learning perl" (llama) for 4.50 in good condition today :D
[03:13] <Bluhd> soundray: ah. see, this is how I always do it :P
[03:13] <soundray> !upgrade > prayer_tramontan, please read the private message from ubotu
[03:13] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: you're probably better off running update-manager
[03:13] <Deztorix> Yeah, um, where can I find a microsoft irc channel.. maybe they could help..if not..well I tryed
[03:14] <prayer_tramontan> Bluhd: I think sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is a bit difficult to me
[03:15] <soundray> prayer_tramontan: the page that ubotu sent you is fairly easy to follow. Do take it literally, though.
[03:15] <Bluhd> prayer_tramontan: yes, follow what soundray is telling you. The method I was about to suggest is the hard way :P
[03:15] <orbin> Deztorix: i think it's ##windows
[03:16] <Deztorix> thanks
[03:16] <prayer_tramontan> Yes thank you i'v seen
[03:16] <basix> can someone please tell me if Ubuntu's latest release, Fiesty Fawn 7.04 has proprietary drivers? I heard that it was to include them?? Is there any other proprietary software / drivers in there from early on?
[03:16] <smiesko> where can I find free bible guide to ubuntu
[03:17] <swmiller6> I have a strange problem and wanted to know if anyone here has experienced the same thing.. Login takes for ever when I am wireless but is normal when wired.
[03:17] <Bluhd> +1.8V:     +2.39 V  (min =  +2.39 V, max =  +2.39 V)   ALARM
[03:17] <Bluhd> interesting
[03:17] <prayer_tramontan> Well that looks very easy:)
[03:17] <a7p_> smiesko, what exactly are you looking for? gnome-sword, kde-bibletime or an Ubuntu-documentation? *g*
[03:18] <a7p_> basix, it has ... but you'll be warned, that you are using non-free Software.
[03:18] <Riot777> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2699735 anybody maybe know anything about that I got same problem
[03:18] <arruah> so who can help me with error soft lockup detection on CPU#0
[03:18] <WaxyFresh> IdleOne: ive figured out the problem its not automatix its anon-proxy and tor,but when i try to remove tor i get:Stopping tor daemon: There is no /var/run/tor directory. invoke-rc.d: initscript tor, action "stop" failed.
[03:18] <smiesko> a7p:  I am beginner in linux and I want know all about ubuntu ...
[03:18] <sahil> anyone here use Evolution on Windows, or tried it ?
[03:18] <NiceGuyUK> sahil: tried it, wasn't a pleasant experience
[03:19] <arruah> smiesko: help.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <CheshireViking> smiesko, if you're looking for help with ubuntu, these websites are a good place to start https://help.ubuntu.com/ and http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Main_Page
[03:19] <netkung-fu> hi folks.  Anyone here able to assist me with a crypto file system issue that I'm having?
[03:19] <NiceGuyUK> (or but the official ubuntu book by mako hill and jono bacon)
[03:19] <WaxyFresh> smiesko: at a command line you can type tabb twice then all the commands will scroll down the screen type man then your cmmand name and youll get info poages about them
[03:19] <smiesko> arruah: and cheshireViking thx
[03:20] <basix> a7p_, i'm not talking about installing non-free software. i'm wanna know if the default install has some binary drivers / proprietary codecs by default?
[03:20] <WaxyFresh> how do i stop a tor deamon?
[03:20] <smiesko> WaxyFresh: thx to
[03:20] <sahil> NiceGuyUK can you be more specific
[03:20] <a7p_> basix, yes, it has, but you'll be warned!
[03:20] <VSpike> WaxyFresh: you could try sudo invoke-rc.d tor stop
[03:20] <a7p_> drivers are software *eg*
[03:20] <NiceGuyUK> sahil: its not as stable as the Linux version and some features are incomplete
[03:21] <a7p_> madwifi for example @ basix
[03:21] <sahil> my uncle wants an email client, but does not like Thunderbird as it doesnt have the calender and memos and tasks option
[03:21] <basix> a7p_, ipw2200 / ipw2100
[03:21] <sahil> NiceGuyUK what do you use now?
[03:21] <basix> a7p_, is it there?
[03:21] <madinfo__> hi
[03:21] <madinfo__> does anyone have a wlan card with chipset ralink ?
[03:21] <NiceGuyUK> sahil: well, I only use Windows at work so its Outlook 2003 here. At home, I use Kontact
[03:21] <madinfo__> i allways get timou
[03:21] <a7p_> basix, should work - but aren't there free drivers available for the ipw-stuff?
[03:21] <madinfo__> timout
[03:21] <madinfo__> associating
[03:21] <WaxyFresh> VSpike: Stopping tor daemon: There is no /var/run/tor directory.
[03:21] <WaxyFresh> invoke-rc.d: initscript tor, action "stop" failed.
[03:22] <sahil> NikeGuyUK does Kontact have the memos, tasks, and calender tabs
[03:22] <arruah> so who can help me with error soft lockup detection on CPU#0
[03:22] <sahil> and can it import stuff from outlook ?
[03:22] <basix> a7p_, no the drivers r free but the firmware is not
[03:22] <VSpike> WaxyFresh: is it actually running for sure? ps ax | grep tor
[03:23] <hwMoD|buntu> could anyone maybe help me with an ultra specific question? My wifi (pc-card through ndiswrapper, on a p3 400mhz laptop) will not resume on laptop's resume from suspend mode.
[03:23] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! I'm having a problem with OO.o, after upgrading to feisty all odt documents apparently show changes in line spacing. I mean, the line spacing values are the same, but the real space is bigger, so that a doc that in edgy fit exactly in a page now goes beyond the page limit. Any hint or idea? thank you!
[03:23] <sahil> NiceGuyUK does Kontact have the memos, tasks, and calender tabs
[03:23] <NiceGuyUK> sahil: yes, but its for KDE not GNOME
[03:23] <hwMoD|buntu> I have to disable and reenable the connection for it to work
[03:23] <MetaBookfoziS> Has anybody RT2561 Wireless chip working?
[03:23] <NiceGuyUK> you could install kde libs to get it working maybe
[03:23] <hwMoD|buntu> is there a way to automate this?
[03:23] <paolob-parroquia> Surely it happens with Nimbus Roman No9 L font
[03:23] <a7p_> basix, the differents between drivers and firmware is maginal ... if the firmware get's loaded by the driver it's some kind of betrayer ... all just idological confusion ...
[03:23] <NiceGuyUK> sahil: maybe Seamonkey will have what you need
[03:24] <basix> a7p_, okie
[03:24] <VSpike> sahil: Kontact is really nice, but if you interact with Outlook people a lot, Evolution works out better IMO
[03:24] <dbrewer_rjr> i am having a problem connecting to vnc from an external connection on feisty. i think the problem is with the firewall. i forwarded 5800-5805 and 5900-5905, but no dice.
[03:24] <WaxyFresh> VSpike: no its not running,wierd
[03:24] <bimberi> Pelo: yes, we need you!
[03:24] <sahil> VSpike, just sending mail is what he needs it for
[03:24] <Pelo> bimberi, soundray,  why ?  give me one good reason ?  are you afraid you'll have to do all the helping in here yourselves ????
[03:25] <soundray> Pelo: exactly!
[03:25] <VSpike> sahil: Evolution renders incoming HTML emails from outlook better, and also preserves formatting when replying
[03:25] <tatters> When I "empty deleted items folder" I get error   "The file or folder /home/test/.local/share/Trash/files/VMware-server-installer-1_1.0.1-29996.exe does not exist."  any way to fix this ?
[03:25] <eRazor> Hi all
[03:25] <VSpike> sahil: kontact doesn't render them so well, and strips html format when replying
[03:25] <bimberi> Pelo: helping? ;)
[03:25] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: I got it to work with the legacy rt61 CVS driver from serialmonkey.
[03:25] <ben_underscore> tatters: go in via the shell and delete the files manually
[03:26] <dbrewer_rjr> can anyone help me with vnc server???
[03:26] <tatters> ben_underscore: but the file does not exist?
[03:26] <VSpike> sahil: I know html email is (mostly) evil, but if it's a requirement for work or whatever, it's worth noting
[03:26] <eRazor> I have a system with NVIDIA 5200 FX Graphics card
[03:26] <Pelo> bimberi,  the action of giving help
[03:26] <eRazor> I want to install Ubuntu Feisty on that
[03:26] <MetaBookfoziS> soundray: iirc i have the same (i have changed a hundred times the ndiswrapper(2version), default and the serialmonkey one driver
[03:27] <bimberi> Pelo: oh that
[03:27] <eRazor> I have liveCD but I am not able to boot at all the from that LiveCD
[03:27] <MetaBookfoziS> so i see my network
[03:27] <MetaBookfoziS> but i can't connect to it anyways.
[03:27] <eRazor> Can some one help me
[03:27] <Pelo> !hardware | eRazor  check this link first
[03:27] <ubotu> eRazor  check this link first: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:27] <MetaBookfoziS> soundray > can you help me how can i debug why? Knetworkmanager stops conencting, rutilt also.
[03:27] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: I also had to disable NetworkManager and nm-applet completely, configuring it via System-Admin-Network instead.
[03:27] <ben_underscore> tatters: open up a terminal session and do a "cd ~/.Trash"
[03:27] <bimberi> dbrewer_rjr: describe the problem.  If someone can help, they'll answer
[03:27] <toocrazypt> anyone knows a game to play poker online on ubuntu ??
[03:27] <Pelo> eRazor,  if you can't boot the live cd you'll need to use the alternate install cd  it is text based  you can add the drivers afterwards
[03:28] <dyrne> dbrewer_rjr: well it looks like youre forwarding 22 correctly.. try sudo iptables -L
[03:28] <hammer> hello all installed ubuntu feisty yesterday and I am quite pleased with it......its is running on a Toshiba M55 laptop ...At the moment I have connected an external monitor which is using the same resolution settings as the laptop screen. I have only one problem with this because the refresh rate on my external monitor is only 60Hz which I would like to increase as it is not easy for the eyes. Does someone have a suggestion on how to inc
[03:28] <hammer> rease the refresh rate on the external monitor whilst keeping the refresh rate on the laptop screen at 60Hz
[03:28] <Pelo> !alternate | eRazor  check pm for alternate cd links
[03:28] <ubotu> eRazor  check pm for alternate cd links: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:28] <dyrne> dbrewer_rjr: alot of rules setup or they just say ACCEPT?
[03:28] <MetaBookfoziS> I check thats.
[03:28] <tatters> ben_underscore: yup done that
[03:28] <ben_underscore> tatters: now when you do the command "ls -lRa" what do you see?
[03:29] <eRazor> Pelo: It says yes for auto detection 2D and 3D for my card
[03:29] <WaxyFresh> how do i force apt-get to uninstall something?it claims i have tor still running but i dont and it wont remove it
[03:29] <Pelo> eRazor,  if you can't boot the live cd you'll need to use the alternate install cd  it is text based  you can add the drivers afterwards
[03:29] <dbrewer_rjr> dyrne: policy ACCEPT
[03:29] <sylverpyro> anyone know if you can select the mount point for, or install to, a md device from the dapper server install cd?
[03:29] <tatters> ben_underscore: total 8
[03:29] <tatters> drwx------  2 test test 4096 2007-05-11 11:41 .
[03:29] <tatters> drwxrwxrwx 73 test test 4096 2007-05-22 14:09 ..
[03:29] <ben_underscore> tatters: paste the output into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:29] <dyrne> dbrewer_rjr: and you can vnc to localhost but not external ip?
[03:29] <MetaBookfoziS> soundray: how you disabled the networkmanager?
[03:30] <MetaBookfoziS> apt-get remove --purge?
[03:30] <dbrewer_rjr> dyrne: i can run vncviewer on the server box, but not on another computer
[03:30] <MetaBookfoziS> knetworkmanager
[03:30] <soundray> WaxyFresh: you can edit the script that is failing. It is located in /var/lib/dpkg/info. The brutal way is to insert "exit 0" as the second line
[03:30] <eRazor> Pelo: Thanks my friend has a copy of the altenate install CD. I will do it from that
[03:30] <dbrewer_rjr> dyrne: correct
[03:30] <Pelo> eRazor, best of luck
[03:30] <tatters> ben_underscore: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21976/
[03:30] <ben_underscore> tatters: what I am saying is that you should be able to delete the files in your .Trash directory to clean it up using the "rm -Rf <directory>" command, but use it carefully
[03:31] <dbrewer_rjr> did i forward enough ports?
[03:31] <MetaBookfoziS> oh, nm-applet is a gnome tool, so you don't have knetworkmanager as i think
[03:31] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: 'sudo chmod -x /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager /etc/dbus-1/event.d/26NetworkManagerDispatcher', and removing nm-applet from the Session startup.
[03:31] <dyrne> tatters: <directory>/*
[03:31] <sylverpyro> n/m that previous request, I just read the alt. install cd doc.  I'm trying to do it off the standard cd
[03:31] <dbrewer_rjr> dyrne: did i forward enough ports? 5800-5805 5900-5905
[03:31] <eRazor> Pelo: But one question. Is it possible to get the display i.e XServer if I install from the alternate CD since I you told me that I have to install the drivers later
[03:31] <ben_underscore> tatters: well that's weird ... nothing there
[03:32] <eRazor> Pelo: In the sense should I install the drivers in text mode?
[03:32] <MetaBookfoziS> i'm under kubuntu, and i missread you, so nm-applet is something like knetworkmanager under kubu. but networkmanager still sucks
[03:32] <tatters> ben_underscore: yup thats what error says also
[03:32] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: the chmod -x procedure applies to kubuntu as well.
[03:32] <MetaBookfoziS> i have that
[03:32] <Pelo> eRazor,  I think it ,s a matter that when you are installed you get a generic driver  but when yo utry to use the live cd it can't identify your card so it just fails ,  Im not quite sure how it works
[03:32] <MetaBookfoziS> after that , what you do?
[03:32] <MetaBookfoziS> or after disabling it's just worked?
[03:33] <foormea> hey all
[03:33] <paolo_> hi. i have to download a packet from /pub/Linux/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m . which is the line that I have to add in repos list, in order to manage this repository?
[03:33] <pegger> I am having a issue with my server,  it is a compaq server that has two built in NIC, I have a diffrent ip plumbed on each interface, when I ping the ip on eth0 I see ICMP but also when I ping the ip on eth1 I see ICMP on eth0, I dont get it
[03:33] <MetaBookfoziS> What tool you use fo rmanaging wifi conenctions?
[03:33] <eRazor> Pelo: Thank you anyhow
[03:33] <foormea> is there an easy way to change a partition's number? i.e. make sda2 become sda3
[03:33] <WaxyFresh> soundray: /info is a directory what file am i looking for?
[03:33] <tatters> ben_underscore: and this is the exact error message that pops up when emptying trash http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21977/
[03:33] <MetaBookfoziS> i see there is a lot , but noone seems usefull.
[03:34] <dbrewer_rjr>  dyrne: did i forward enough ports? 5800-5805 5900-5905
[03:34] <dyrne> dbrewer_rjr: sorry im at work.. well the default port should be 5900 just starting up. that is all you shoul need
[03:34] <soundray> WaxyFresh: your error messages should have told you. Probably tor.prerm or tor.postrm
[03:34] <dyrne> dbrewer_rjr: is it running now?
[03:34] <ramtheus> Hi to all. I run Ubuntu 6.0 lts on 386 plataform. I installed all gstreamer libraries and Xine video as well as Totem stopped displaying video. Uninstalled and reinstalled using SPM. No luck. Any special order to re-install the whole deal?
[03:34] <dbrewer_rjr> dyrne:yes
[03:35] <ben_underscore> tatters: that is really weird ... sorry i led you down the garden path there ...
[03:35] <Acs> hello
[03:35] <tatters> ben_underscore:  no worries
[03:35] <Acs> any guide for people that have winxp and want to install ubuntu on a new partion
[03:35] <ben_underscore> tatters: i'm going to have to say that i don't know how to fix that one!
[03:35] <MetaBookfoziS> soundray > thanx a lot, i need restart i think to networkmanager shuts up... brb!
[03:35] <ramtheus> It seems like some codec is missing.
[03:36] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my second partition. But the partition tool doesn't show ANY partition. Also Gparted only shows "unallocated space". What do I need to do to fix this?
[03:36] <tatters> ben_underscore:  thnx for trying anyways ,
[03:36] <Glaf> How do i fix the nvidia driver when the nvidia kernel module have another version then the X module?
[03:36] <Acs> I am installing ubuntu on another pc at the momment and I have the Migrate Documents and Settings dialog. I don't want ubunt to erase windows section
[03:36] <ben_underscore> tatters: yeah good luck with it
[03:36] <johns^> tatters: you could try to go to all the subdirs in .local/Trash and rm everyting there
[03:36] <dyrne> dbrewer_rjr: does your route have an option for setting a dmz server?
[03:37] <soundray> ubuntu_: is this an Intel Mac?
[03:37] <paolo_> hi. i have to download a packet from /pub/Linux/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m . which is the line that I have to add in repos list, in order to manage this repository?
[03:37] <dyrne> dbrewer_rjr: might try that real quick
[03:37] <ubuntu_> its intel
[03:37] <tatters> johns^: I been there Trash is empty
[03:37] <dyrne> dbrewer_rjr: router i mean
[03:37] <johns^> tatters: and i've had that one time with a file that wasn't owned by me. did a chown -R user:group .Trash first after wich it could be deleted
[03:37] <soundray> ubuntu_: by Apple?
[03:37] <ubuntu_> no
[03:38] <dasteuber> hy
[03:38] <ubuntu_> i have Athlon xp 2000+
[03:38] <tatters> Does Tash have a file that it uses to cache whats to be deleted or not?
[03:38] <Acs> anyone???
[03:38] <tatters> trash^
[03:38] <Bluhd> ubuntu_: ah, good old socket A
[03:38] <bimberi> tatters: ~/.Trash
[03:38] <dbrewer_rjr> dyrne: yes, it has dmz host function. what is that?
[03:38] <johns^> tatters: and if you put another file in Trash and try emptying then?
[03:39] <fruitflute> Acs: Ubuntu won't erase the Windows partition unless you specifically tell it to.
[03:39] <fourcheeze> where are the gimp freefonts and sharefonts in ubuntu?
[03:39] <WaxyFresh> soundray: http://pastebin.ca/502303 i didint see the file in the output of apt-get
[03:39] <ramtheus> 2nd question: I can no longer download win32 codecs on ubuntu 6.06 LTS , any way to do this?
[03:39] <hammer> hello all installed ubuntu feisty yesterday and I am quite pleased with it......its is running on a Toshiba M55 laptop ...At the moment I have connected an external monitor which is using the same resolution settings as the laptop screen. I have only one problem with this because the refresh rate on my external monitor is only 60Hz which I would like to increase as it is not easy for the eyes. Does someone have a suggestion on how to inc
[03:39] <hammer> rease the refresh rate on the external monitor whilst keeping the refresh rate on the laptop screen at 60Hz
[03:39] <dbrewer_rjr> dyrne: is that wide open access?
[03:39] <Acs> fruitflute great
[03:39] <Acs> :)
[03:40] <tatters> johns^: if I add another file to trash and delete it dissapears although the error message still pops up
[03:40] <soundray> WaxyFresh: it says pre-removal, so it must be /var/lib/dpkg/info/tor.prerm
[03:41] <soundray> ubuntu_: is there an operating system on the first partition?
[03:41] <ramtheus> Ok guys, thanks, I'm not laike a newbie or something, I migrated  from Gentoo and SPM is kind'a a solution but it sometimes does not do what it's suppose to do. Thanks anyway
[03:41] <WaxyFresh> soundray: any idea on how to fix those locale errors?
[03:42] <johns^> tatters: and if you do '/home/test/.local/share/Trash/files/VMware-server-installer-1_1.0.1-29996.exe'
[03:42] <johns^> and then empty
[03:42] <johns^> ah a touch in front of that
[03:42] <johns^> touch /home/test/.local/share/Trash/files/VMware-server-installer-1_1.0.1-29996.exe
[03:42] <soundray> WaxyFresh: not really. I'd just ignore them
[03:43] <tatters> johns^: thnx m8 that stopped error message when emptying,
[03:43] <Pelo> having read my boot log as part of the trouble shoot process of my little problem, I am given to wonder if I can disable the wifi search thingu
[03:44] <dimon08>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY gfhjkm
[03:44] <johns^> tatters: great :)
[03:44] <soundray> Pelo: do you mean NetworkManager?
[03:44] <CheshireViking> dimon08, time for a password change :)
[03:45] <dyrne> Pelo: ls /etc/init.d/   there are a few things there you prob dont need
[03:45] <johns^> dimebar: nice password :)
[03:45] <Pelo> phone
[03:45] <johns^> i mean dimon08
[03:45] <CarlFK> does the live CD install and the 'alternate install (text based installer)' leave you with the same things installed ?
[03:45] <taometaway> I have been having some seriuosly bad problems with sessions, do you guys recomend to check the "save sessions automatically box"?
[03:45] <Pici> CarlFK: Yes.
[03:45] <johns^> taometaway: no
[03:45] <CarlFK> Pici thanks.
[03:45] <Cryption> Anyone here have experience installing mongrel rails on Ubuntu?
[03:45] <Cryption> If so please private msg me
[03:45] <dimebar> johns^: made me to :o then lol
[03:46] <taometaway> OK johns^.... so... just don't even worry about saving sessions ever?
[03:46] <Pelo> thank dyrne ,  soundray  I'm not sure I just saw a few lines in the boot log that said the system did not find  any wifi devices  wasn'T paying all that much attention I was lookign for something else  but if I can shorten the boot time that would be great
[03:46] <johns^> taometaway: I don't.
[03:46] <tatters> johns^: So I guess I should go look what "touch" does, but how did it work? how did you know Y it might work?
[03:46] <johns^> Pelo: that are the biggest problems most of the time
[03:46] <soundray> Pelo: that's a recipe for disaster ;)
[03:47] <johns^> tatters: touch 'touches' a file. creates it if it isn't there and update things like dates if it *is* there
[03:47] <simplyviven> hi
[03:47] <taometaway> johns^ - thanks, My system has been acting so screwy with sessions, I'll just stop saving them, thanks. :)
[03:48] <BaBL> what about alsaconf in feisty? it doesn't present in alsa-utils
[03:48] <johns^> taometaway: I always hated it when things start up automatically. Especially desktop stuf
[03:48] <MetaBookfoziS> soundray > is you here?
[03:48] <johns^> +f
[03:48] <MetaBookfoziS> What app you use toc onnect wifi networks?
[03:49] <taometaway> johns^, yeah, I keep a little row of things to start up, and I do them one at a time.
[03:49] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: no app. Just configure it via System-Administration-Network (disable roaming and set up DHCP)
[03:49] <johns^> taometaway: things 'you can't live without' can be added manually to your sessions in that same config thingy
[03:49] <MetaBookfoziS> soundray > that is an application, or a way in gnome settings?
[03:49] <smacky> gm how do i fix this  `apt-get -f install'
[03:49] <magicrobotmonkey> does anyone use jedit?
[03:50] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: oh, you're in kubuntu... sec
[03:50] <MetaBookfoziS> i have something like this
[03:50] <taometaway> johns^ OK... thanks a lot.
[03:50] <Ares|Work> in kubuntu how do you switch to dbl-click to run instead of single-clicking?
[03:50] <MetaBookfoziS> but i thought that is a different program
[03:50] <MetaBookfoziS> Ares|Work > kcontrol->peripherials->mouse
[03:51] <smacky> gm how do i fix this  `apt-get -f install'
[03:51] <johns^> smacky: what's there to fix?
[03:52] <smacky>  `apt-get -f install'
[03:52] <smacky>  that
[03:52] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: add these lines to your /etc/network/interfaces: "iface ra0 inet dhcp", "wireless-essid youressid" and "auto ra0"
[03:52] <johns^> seems good. Nice fonts, solid command.
[03:52] <carbanm> alright, so i have lm-sensors installed, and have just confirmed that i do have power over my fans(using pwmconfig) how how do i set my fans to not sound like an airplane taking off?
[03:52] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: replace ra0 with your real interface name and youressid with your ESSID ;)
[03:52] <johns^> smacky: I don't understand what you're asking.
[03:53] <SolidAsArocK> c na rien donner le reboot pour acceder a synaptique :(
[03:53] <johns^> !fr
[03:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:53] <SolidAsArocK> looo
[03:53] <SolidAsArocK> right sorry
[03:53] <SolidAsArocK> ;)
[03:53] <carbanm> or is there a way/
[03:53] <johns^> :)
[03:53] <MetaBookfoziS> soundray >  thx, i trying
[03:53] <Bluhd> ...Is Ubuntu going to warn me every time I restart my computer that I'm using restricted drivers?
[03:53] <johns^> Bluhd: no
[03:53] <johns^> I saw it once
[03:53] <Bluhd> johns^: good :D
[03:54] <CheshireViking> Bluhd, once for me as well
[03:54] <rambo3> Bluhd, warn you where ?
[03:54] <Bluhd> rambo3: I used nvidia-glx-config enable and it warned me that I was using proprietary drivers
[03:54] <Enverex> Bluhd, Ignore it
[03:55] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: when you're ready, do a 'sudo ifup ra0'
[03:55] <carbanm> anyone have any advice for this fan control issue?
[03:55] <carbanm> i can view the sensor info no problem, but getting it set just seems out of my reach
[03:55] <rambo3> could feity be most stable ubuntu ever, only 2 uppdates
[03:55] <carbanm> unless, after running pwmconfig would i have to reboot?
[03:56] <David_28> hello
[03:56] <johns^> rambo3: feisty rock's. Like it as much as I did like dapper :)
[03:56] <CheshireViking> rambo3, only 3 updates? i've had about 10-15 updates, but suppose it depends which additional app's are installed
[03:56] <tatters> if I need to post a screenshot of a problem what is best place to do this?
[03:56] <CheshireViking> rambo3, should say 2 updates
[03:57] <soundray> tatters: probably ubuntuforums
[03:57] <NekoKun> Guys... I have a windows and a linux box. I need to transfer files between them the fastest way possible, in a way that both access the files, what you suggest? We're using samba, but it is too slow...
[03:58] <carbanm> flash drive.
[03:58] <tatters> soundray:  there is no pastebin type feature for screenshots?
[03:58] <carbanm> just kidding ,shared folder on the windows computer, as long as it's not vista.
[03:58] <rambo3> Do you own a star trek transporter ?
[03:58] <soundray> NekoKun: probably netcat. It's available for Windows as part of cygwin
[03:59] <soundray> tatters: I think there are image bins, but I don't have an address. Have you stfw?
[03:59] <tatters> stfw?
[03:59] <soundray> tatters: searched the fine web
[04:00] <tatters> ah I C of course
[04:00] <gordonjcp> NekoKun: removable USB2 drive?
[04:00] <carbanm> anyone on my issue?
[04:01] <carbanm> fan control problem, confirmed pwm can do it, just don't know how.
[04:01] <NekoKun> gordonjcp: I can't have a human on the process.. and they are in a lan
[04:01] <soundray> carbanm: people will respond if they know. Try asking again, but leave longer intervals.
[04:01] <carbanm> alright, thanks soundray
[04:01] <gordonjcp> NekoKun: possibly rsync over ssh, or scp then
[04:01] <NekoKun> mmm
[04:02] <MetaBookfoziS> soundray > i actually get "Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :" it's not problem i'm under googling or this, but that is not problem if in the iwlist, ra0 thinks she's SSID is something else than my wanted network?
[04:02] <newpZ> hi there, i have 2 wireless pcmcia card, both card when doing a ton of work (azuerus or scp over the network) drop off the network and will not go back on without a reboot.. i dont see anything in dmesg or anywherre else when it happens..i even switche kernes to i386 from smp
[04:02] <MetaBookfoziS> i have edited the driver's config
[04:02] <soundray> MetaBookfoziS: sorry, I'm not familiar with that error
[04:03] <minerale> newpz: it could also be the wireless router, mine can not handle a large load and requires a restart from time to time
[04:03] <rambo3> MetaBookfoziS, try iwconfig essid
[04:03] <DaveTarmac> WEP Networking on a fresh Feisty install. I can see the network,connect to it but I do not get assigned an IP by DHCP, nor does static IP work for giving me access to the internet.
[04:03] <AngryElf_> how do I install JRE 1.5+?
[04:03] <newpZ> mindframe_, i have a another lappy exact with breezy on it... it handles it fine :P)
[04:03] <itsikarg> hi - anyone knows a good howto on connecting to internet through a wirelss router?
[04:03] <minerale> newpz: try setting limit on azureus so that it only runs at about 25% capacity
[04:03] <newpZ> its smething with fawn
[04:04] <itsikarg> anyone has any experience with connecting through a wireless router?
[04:04] <Pelo> soundray,   the budjet can't handle it right now or I would have , and local availabilily is also a factor
[04:04] <rambo3> itsikarg, yeah what
[04:04] <soundray> Pelo: hope it's Rockbox-compatible, then
[04:05] <Pelo> soundray, just a basic 2 gig rca model , just audio
[04:05] <digital_k> hello all:)
[04:05] <Neil-> does ubuntu-studio have anything missing compared to ubuntu?
[04:05] <Neil-> or just extra stuff
[04:05] <itsikarg> rambo3, i never used wireless ,even on windows,i got the drivers set, tomorrow im going to connect thru a wirelss router, what should i prepare?
[04:06] <digital_k> im having an issue with fonts in openoffice, particuarly the dropdown menu fonts, they are truncated. I havent changed anything that i know of,any fix for it?
[04:06] <slim> hello all, i'm having a problem with "archive manager" I'm trying to uncompress a .rar file and it says that it cannot open it, why is that?
[04:06] <lbawinowns> Im srry if this is really is about Kubuntu,  but I think it's the exact for Ubuntu, when I want to download a iso wit Kubuntu feisty, what is difference between "desktop" and "alternate" version?
[04:06] <rational> Hello all...!
[04:06] <Pelo> soundray, I 've been buying  mp3 players with the same cash for a year,  I keep returning for refund befor the warranty expires because of bad  earphone or other things like that,  I liked my last one but the flash was defective
[04:06] <itsikarg> rambo3, i mean do i just choose 'wirelss' in the network options and thats it?
[04:07] <jhaig> lbawinowns: The desktop version boots into a live CD, while the alternate version installs with a text based interface.
[04:07] <rational> I have been trying all night to download 7.04 fiesty and can only get 678MB of 697MB before it stalls...and I have tried 3 different computers....any ideas??
[04:07] <lbawinowns> jhaig, as i suspected, thanks :)
[04:08] <CarlFK> in X, open a shell, run a script that does "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" - that will close the shell, which will kill the script, so the next line wont run, right?
[04:08] <jhaig> lbawinowns: That is, the alternate version uses a text based interface to install, but it can install Ubuntu in the same way as the Desktop version.
[04:08] <slim> rational: dowload the torrent
[04:08] <lbawinowns> jhaig, but desktop is cooler right?
[04:08] <Pelo> soundray,  the nice thing is with prices dropping, advances in tech, and new models comming in, I've been able to upgrade everytime for basicaly the same amount of money,  I got stated with a 512 meg and now I'm gonna have a 2 gig one
[04:08] <Peaker> Hi. I want to build libsdl1.2 with debug symbols. I used "apt-get source", what should I change to make it build with debug?
[04:08] <rambo3> itsikarg, you have a manual for your router . first login(http://192.1.0.X ) to router and setup some security . then connect to internet.
[04:09] <rational> thx...guess I don't have a choice....I was hoping for a speedy download, but torrent it is...
[04:09] <digital_k> so no one have any ideas about the openoffice menu font? i will google I guess.
[04:09] <slim> rational: hold on
[04:09] <rational> k
[04:09] <Pelo> rambo3,  asking in ##linux might be a good idea
[04:09] <soundray> Pelo: enjoy
[04:09] <itsikarg> rambo3, it's that simple?
[04:09] <jhaig> lbawinowns: The desktop version allows you to see it without installing it first.  The alternate version allows you to install on older hardware and (I think) configure it more during the install.
[04:09] <slim> rational: have you tried downloading from the exact mirror?
[04:09] <Pelo> digital_k,  #openoffice.org
[04:10] <rambo3> itsikarg, depends on security you chose . pretty simple
[04:10] <digital_k> thank you pelo! i will check it out.
[04:10] <rational> tried 4 different mirrors from the Ubuntu site....is that what you mean??
[04:10] <rambo3> Pelo, i am guessing message was for somone else ?
[04:10] <lbawinowns> jhaig, so there is factual advantages wit text based?
[04:10] <itsikarg> rambo3, this router is in my office ,it is already configured ,works with mac ans windows, can i just connect to it and that's it?
[04:10] <jhaig> lbawinowns: Also, with the desktop version you have a working desktop while the install is taking place.
[04:10] <Pelo> rambo3,  yes sorry
[04:11] <slim> rational: when the download is almost complete, and it fails, try the same exact link and some times it will resume where it cut off
[04:11] <Pelo> he's gone now
[04:11] <rambo3> !wireless | itsikarg
[04:11] <ubotu> itsikarg: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:11] <lbawinowns> jhaig, yep, I had that too, I surfed internet while installing B)
[04:11] <jhaig> lbawinowns: If you want to install a server, for example, you would probably use the alternate version.  I've also installed Xubuntu on a machine which doesn't have enough memory for the live CD.
[04:11] <rational> yep..tried that too.....tried to resume the download....no luck....
[04:11] <itsikarg> rambo3, thanks!!
[04:11] <KillerBunny> rational, get a download manager (flashget or something like that=
[04:11] <KillerBunny> or try another mirror
[04:12] <rational> sounds like a good idea...
[04:12] <slim> hmmm. well i guess the toorent is your only hope man, sorry
[04:12] <rational> no problem...thanks for the help...
[04:12] <rational> any help is good help..
[04:12] <slim> no problem
[04:12] <KillerBunny> A dl manager should be able to resume if the host supports it.
[04:13] <slim> ok anyone know how to open a .rar file using "archive manager" ?
[04:13] <LMJ2> Hello the chan
[04:13] <lbawinowns> jhaig, I got worried, I've ordered 3*2 CDs with Ubuntu and Kubuntu, will they be desktop or alternate, I want desktop
[04:13] <dappis> slim: install unrar to add support for rar-archives
[04:14] <dappis> lbawinowns: all CDs are desktop-versions
[04:14] <LjL> !rar > slim    (slim, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:14] <slim> dappis: is that sudo apt.........unrar ?
[04:14] <dappis> at least all my CDs were :)
[04:14] <dappis> sudo aptitude install unrar
[04:14] <dappis> apt-get gives the same result
[04:14] <lbawinowns> dappis, thanks
[04:14] <CheshireViking> lbawinowns, i've just had some cd's through last week, they were desktop as well
[04:14] <LMJ2> samba 3.0.24 (smbd) segfault on feisty, anyone knows about this bug ? is there a fix ?
[04:15] <jhaig> lbawinowns: I don't know, but I suspect desktop.  The manufactured CDs are intended to show of Ubuntu, which is done better with the live CD.
[04:15] <lbawinowns> Nice :)
[04:15] <erUSUL> !bugs > LMJ2
[04:15] <slim> ok thanks guys (and ubotu)
[04:15] <dappis> alternate-cd is better if you already know you want to install ubuntu, it is a little bit faster and provides more installation options
[04:16] <Triplee23> Anyone managed to get Xvnc working? I get the logon screen in my vncviewer but the password is not accepted, anyone who can help me?
[04:16] <lbawinowns> dappis, alternate is for hackers and professionals right?
[04:17] <Deztorix> I've got an error this does have todo with windows though....A kernal file is missing from the disk. inster a system diskette and restart the system"  what does this mean? put in winxp disc?
[04:17] <rausb0> lbawinowns: the alternate version also install a desktop system, but the installer itself is textmode only
[04:18] <ufoeraser> ehi guys
[04:18] <lbawinowns> ok
[04:18] <jStefan> how do restore my gnome application menu to default, the restore button doesnt do the trick.
[04:18] <CheshireViking> lbawinowns, alternate is just an alternate, livecd sometimes doesn't work with some hardware wheras the alternate can do because it doesn't use the graphical installer
[04:18] <ufoeraser> what is the best mathematics software to calculate limits or other things....?
[04:18] <Bluhd> ufoeraser: What's the formula? :P
[04:19] <ufoeraser> ???
[04:19] <Bluhd> ufoeraser: nevermind
[04:19] <ufoeraser> what?
[04:19] <ufoeraser> ok....
[04:19] <Bluhd> ufoeraser: you're probably looking for a computer algebra system
[04:19] <ufoeraser> correct!
[04:19] <dappis> alternate-cd is text-based and I don't consider myself as a hacker
[04:20] <Bluhd> ufoeraser: as for "best", I don't know
[04:20] <jStefan> how do I restore my gnome application menu to defaults, the restore button doesnt do the trick.
[04:20] <Bluhd> ufoeraser: it all depends on what you find the easiest to use
[04:20] <Triplee23> Anyone managed to get Xvnc working? I get the logon screen in my vncviewer but the password is not accepted, anyone who can help me?
[04:20] <ufoeraser> Bluhd: ok....and for you?
[04:20] <bulmer> Triplee23: i dont recall the steps, but did you do a vncpasswd to set the password?
[04:21] <Frogzoo> how to install additional fonts plz ?
[04:21] <CheshireViking> Frogzoo, which fonts? have you installed mscorefonts via synaptic?
[04:21] <rowdy> I am having X server problems with feisty. I have an ATI Radeon X300 card. All the drivers are installed properly, When I login. the screen has a grey tinge over it. The way I am working around is to go to System->preferences->screen resolution and select some other resolution..the grey tinge vanishes and then I select keep previous resolution
[04:21] <MetaBookfoziS> I'm didin't get ip from my network over wifi, i have RT2561, please help me.
[04:21] <rowdy> any ideas why its happening?
[04:21] <MetaBookfoziS> I'm using wpa2psk with tkip
[04:22] <M__> Hello, i am having a problem, well, more like a lack of understanding, with Lm-sensors' ability to control fan speed. i have 2 cpu fans(dual cpu system) each running at 7k rpm, as you can imagine, sounds like a plane taking off, i have confirmed an ability to control fan speed with pwmconfig, but the "fancontrol"script on ubuntuguide.org doesn't function for me, at all, any tips/
[04:22] <Bluhd> ufoeraser: I find most CAS to be too confusing for my tastes. I just use my TI-83+
[04:22] <Frogzoo> CheshireViking: I mean additional .ttf fonts, with no .deb
[04:22] <jtreach> anyone know how I can let all connections through a port on ubuntu?
[04:22] <Frogzoo> jtreach: that's default
[04:23] <jtreach> you sure because i've been reading the azureus wiki on port forwarding and it gives me the impression that its not......
[04:23] <littletank> Hi, I am looking for a scanner which will work on Feisty, please help
[04:23] <Bluhd> ufoeraser: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_computer_algebra_system_software
[04:23] <Frogzoo> jtreach: I'm sure - you may need to forward from your firewall is all
[04:24] <rowdy> I am having X server problems with feisty. I have an ATI Radeon X300 card. All the drivers are installed properly, When I login. the screen has a grey tinge over it. The way I am working around is to go to System->preferences->screen resolution and select some other resolution..the grey tinge vanishes and then I select keep previous resolution
[04:24] <dappis> littletank: use the google
[04:24] <Triplee23> bulmer, It is not the vncpassword that is the problem, I manage to get a vnc connection. It is the actual ubuntu password. I try to logon put nothing happens when i enter U/P.
[04:24] <dromer> how can I scan a hd for errors?
[04:24] <rowdy> dromer: e2fsck
[04:24] <rowdy> do u know how to boot into single user mode
[04:24] <CheshireViking> Frogzoo, http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Ttf-Fonts-on-Ubuntu does this help?
[04:25] <feenster> Hi all. I've got a 2 disk RAID-1 array in an LVM, and have been trying to split it down back to a single disk. I seem to have removed the disk from the RAID-1 (which i'm now rebuilding), and have tried to use vgreduce but it gave me a message about the disk being in use. Is there a really quick way to just take of the 2 disks and copy it's data off to another server?
[04:25] <littletank> Google is no help because lots of scanners will not work on Feisty
[04:25] <ufoeraser> CAS= euler computer algebra system?
[04:25] <Bluhd> ufoeraser: mathomatic looks promising
[04:25] <Frogzoo> I should hope so CheshireViking, thx
[04:25] <CheshireViking> no probs
[04:25] <lbawinowns> Is there any real reasons for a Ubuntu or Linux user to have protection programs such as anti-virus and firewalls?
[04:25] <ufoeraser> mathomatic?ok.....i'll try:)
[04:26] <jtreach> i've got a NAT problem with azureus and my router is definitely configured to forward that port, and according to the azureus wiki i have to eneter all of these commands
[04:26] <jtreach>  /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport <your_port_number> -j ACCEPT          /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -p udp --dport <your_port_number> -j ACCEPT ) &
[04:26] <jtreach> :S
[04:26] <dappis> I have HP PSC 1310 (printer/scanner/copier) and it works, printing and scanning goes smoothly
[04:26] <dappis> I make a guess that HP has good support for linux
[04:26] <littletank> I only need a scanner
[04:26] <Frogzoo> jtreach: sure you're not reading how to configure an ubuntu firewall to forward azureus ?
[04:27] <josh_> !compile
[04:27] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:27] <rowdy> I am having X server problems with feisty. I have an ATI Radeon X300 card. All the drivers are installed properly, When I login. the screen has a grey tinge over it. The way I am working around is to go to System->preferences->screen resolution and select some other resolution..the grey tinge vanishes and then I select keep previous resolution
[04:27] <Bluhd> I thought that port forwarding had to be done on the router level
[04:28] <LjL> faggot: change your nickname please
[04:28] <jtreach> errrr.... possibly i'm not really sure all i know is that azureus says I have a NAT problem after I tried to change the port (to try and combat traffic shaping) my router is definitely configured correctly and I don't know what to do
[04:28] <rowdy> any ideas where i should be looking for errors
[04:28] <Bluhd> I was waiting for something like that to happen :P
[04:28] <dyrne> he's a lump of wood. perfectly PC
[04:28] <jtreach> plus the fact I can't remember my old port number
[04:28] <Bluhd> faggot is also known as savory duck
[04:29] <LjL> i don't care, just change the nickname
[04:29] <Bluhd> :P
[04:29] <sumigamer> guys is there anyway to install KDE from the kubuntu CD in Ubuntu feisty
[04:29] <Bluhd> LjL: he's probably idling now
[04:29] <LjL> sumigamer: no, unless it's the alternate cd
[04:29] <sumigamer> the alternate cd??
[04:29] <LjL> !alternate > sumigamer    (sumigamer, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:30] <LjL> sumigamer: the standard Desktop CD doesn't have an APT repository (well, it has a very minimal one), so you can't install packages from it
[04:30] <Bluhd> wait
[04:30] <Bluhd> that ban mask looks weird
[04:30] <Bluhd> #ubuntu-ops ?
[04:30] <LjL> yeah i got it wrong
[04:30] <hylje> redirect
[04:30] <Bluhd> oh
[04:31] <VSpike> I need to put the effort in to learn vim properly
[04:31] <rollerskatejamms> Anybody but me notice that rhythmbox transfers music to ipods very slow? Much slower then banshee or exaile does.
[04:31] <honeymonkey> hi all
[04:31] <VSpike> My mind is too wired around visual pointy-clicky editors... I know I'll be so much happier if I can make the change, but reconfiguring your brain like that is painful and hard
[04:31] <rollerskatejamms> Anybody but me notice that rhythmbox transfers music to ipods very slow? Much slower then banshee or exaile does.
[04:31] <littletank>  will come back later
[04:32] <smacky> man i love ununtu but i hate tovid
[04:32] <drif> I'm running xorg but when I try to invoke something..such as winecfg it complains about my $DISPLAY settings
[04:33] <Lui> Hi all
[04:33] <Lui> I search Rainbow Table MS Office
[04:33] <Lui> can you help me?
[04:34] <DaveTarmac> Can anyone help me? I've got a wireless network which I can connect to, but I do not get assigned an IP via DHCP. I have tried a Static IP, but I cannot get out on the internet using that either. Does anyone have any advice?
[04:34] <jhaig> drif: Does it do that if you try any X application?
[04:34] <babo> guys, what's the best way to set up dynamic dns on the ubuntu system ?
[04:34] <drif> jhaig: pretty much, when doing that from console
[04:34] <babo> I need a domain name to test my paypal IPN connection ...
[04:34] <jhaig> Can you launch anything from the menu?
[04:34] <HaRDaWaY> hi
[04:34] <drif> jhaig: from menu everything's ok
[04:35] <jhaig> Have you su'ed to root?  By "sudo su", for example?
[04:35] <fwj> Hi, I am new to this ubuntu irc chat. Question: Anybody has experience with installing Adempiere via IzPack Installer? I get to the point where the installer says Adempiere inflating...ERROR.
[04:35] <drif> jhaig: $DISPLAY is set to :0.0
[04:35] <jhaig> drif: ... or su to any other user?
[04:35] <scarter> anyone using MythTV? or Freevo? or LinuxMCE? i'm trying to pick a replacement (or have multiple options, depending on hardware support) to replace my M$ MCE.
[04:36] <drif> jhaig: I've tried both as root and normal user
[04:36] <dappis> "sudo su -" gives you access to root terminal, but be careful because linux processes every command as root
[04:36] <LjL> why not use "sudo -i" instead of "sudo su -" redundancy anyway?
[04:36] <drif> jhaig: actually :D as normal user it seems to work..so how do I do it as root as well?
[04:36] <jhaig> dappis, drif: The reason I ask about that is that I've found that when using su I cannot bring up X applications.
[04:37] <carbanm> what is a safe cpu temp?
[04:37] <carbanm> for an athlon
[04:37] <dappis> "sudo application"
[04:37] <drif> carbanm: below 70 :D
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[04:37] <jhaig> drif: I haven't got round to fixing it myself, but you should be able to do it with the $DISPLAY setting and xhost.  Try "xhost +localhost" (as the user you are logged in as"
[04:37] <CheshireViking> carbanm, my laptop regularly goes to 60c before the fan kicks in
[04:37] <carbanm> so a good "low temp" for lmsensors would be like 60?
[04:37] <dappis> carbanm: it depends, I don't like temps over +60'C
[04:38] <drif> dappis: if that was for me..or anyone else for that respect.. please direct'em bit better?
[04:38] <DaveTarmac> Can anyone help me? I've got a wireless network which I can connect to, but I do not get assigned an IP via DHCP. I have tried a Static IP, but I cannot get out on the internet using that either. Does anyone have any advice on how I can fix this?
[04:38] <dappis> jhaig: "sudo application"
[04:39] <ahmed> hello,, after installing beryl and using the xgl driver now games run very slow in wine though they used to run fast,, when i change session to gnome or kde without xgl it works fine but not all the games work cause they have a problem in registry,, though they run in the xgl session ,,, PLEAZE HELP
[04:39] <LjL> !beryl > ahmed    (ahmed, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:39] <dappis> !beryl > dappis
[04:39] <LjL> ahmed: (short answer: live with that, it's a shortcoming of xgl)
[04:39] <gr_man> hi all
[04:40] <drif> jhaig: xhost not helping itself..what about htta $DISPLAY setting
[04:40] <drif> that
[04:40] <ahmed> guys, can i unload xgl before running the game ,then re run it when done ?
[04:40] <jhaig> drif: Try what dappis suggests.  He's probably got a better idea than I have.
[04:40] <LjL> ahmed, you don't get the point i think. Beryl and Xgl are *not* supported here, but *only* in #ubuntu-effects
[04:40] <dappis> from the beryl-manager select metacity
[04:41] <LjL> ahmed: also it's not really nice to spam questions in several channels at a time
[04:41] <ahmed> k
[04:41] <drif> dappis: so as normal user sudo application to run it as root?
[04:41] <ahmed> now wine is supported here righT ?
[04:41] <gr_man> any women for chat
[04:41] <drif> dappis: seems to work
[04:41] <dappis> drif: yes, use sudo app to run it as root
[04:41] <mjr> ahmed, you'd probably be better off with #winehq for that
[04:41] <CheshireViking> ahmed, your best bet for wine is try in #winehq
[04:42] <n0n4m3> does anyone know when will opera release a 64bit version of it's browser for linux?
[04:42] <LjL> ahmed: yeah, though especially if you're using the latest version, #winehq might know better than us.
[04:42] <dappis> drif: and "sudo su -" gives you a root terminal, where "application" runs the app as root
[04:42] <drif> dappis: got reason why it's not happening after applying su?
[04:42] <LjL> sudo -i works as well and doesn't involve redundancy of commands
[04:42] <dappis> no idea
[04:43] <codnix> hi all
[04:43] <codnix> what is the cpp lib package name ?
[04:43] <codnix> i wanna apt-get it
[04:43] <dappis> try "sudo aptitude search cpp lib"
[04:43] <zLinux_> hi
[04:44] <codnix> isnt there is a specific name ?
[04:44] <LjL> codnix: what is the cpp lib?
[04:44] <Neil-> Hey all.. just a general question - what is the realtime/RT kernel?
[04:44] <codnix> c plus plus
[04:44] <codnix> when i ./configure
[04:44] <LjL> codnix: so you mean the standard library for C++ programs?
[04:44] <LjL> !build-essential > codnix    (codnix, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:44] <codnix> ya
[04:44] <dappis> oh, try installing build-essential
[04:45] <Elko> hmm, I put auth users and secrets file in rsyncd.conf, but rsync only works with local usernames, not virtual ones as stated in the manpage. any idead on what I'm missing here?
[04:45] <LjL> codnix: "cpp" is the C preprocessor, to most people
[04:45] <carbanm> Anyone here able to help me configure Lm-sensors for cpu fan control?
[04:45] <DaveTarmac> Can anyone help me? I've got a wireless network which I can connect to, but I do not get assigned an IP via DHCP. I have tried a Static IP, but I cannot get out on the internet using that either. Does anyone have any advice?
[04:45] <dappis> some programs require additional packages to compile programs but build-essential includes all necessary packages
[04:45] <Triplee23> Is there an easy terminal command which makes it possible to enter two rows of text at the end of an existing text file, or do I have to you a text editor?
[04:46] <Dutch_Gecko> cat >> filename
[04:46] <LjL> Triplee23: cat >> filename, use Ctrl+D when finished writing
[04:46] <LjL> Triplee23: CAREFUL, if you use only one >, the file gets overwritten
[04:46] <feross> DaveTarmac: try  Network Manager (nm-applet) it works great for wireless.
[04:47] <sipior> Neil-: real time kernels aer used for device control appliactions, or anywhere else where you don't want to have to worry about your process being rescheduled by the scheduler. also i believe harware interrupts are treated differently as well, for the same reason.
[04:47] <Triplee23> Did I understand correct: cat >> file.txt Text 1 Text 2?
[04:47] <Cyberdance> Hi! Anybody here who can give me a little support getting MythTV running on Feisty?
[04:47] <Dutch_Gecko> cat >> file.txt, hit enter
[04:47] <Dutch_Gecko> type your first line
[04:47] <Dutch_Gecko> hit enter
[04:47] <LjL> Triplee23: no.  cat >> file.txt , then press Enter, then type whatever you want to type (one line, two lines, three... whatever), and then Ctrl+D to end
[04:47] <Dutch_Gecko> then the second
[04:47] <Dutch_Gecko> hit enter
[04:47] <DaveTarmac> feross: Is that supplied with Ubuntu at install? I don't have a network connection within the OS. I'm on my vista partition at the moment
[04:47] <LjL> !enter
[04:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:47] <Dutch_Gecko> then ctrl+D
[04:48] <thomax>  I've got a fat32 external HD with 2 partitions, when I mount 'em in kubuntu I've got 2gb free space on it, when I mount it in windows I've got 30gb free space on it, any ideas?
[04:48] <Dutch_Gecko> kk :)
[04:49] <sipior> thomax: corrupt partition table maybe? have a look with fdisk?
[04:49] <LjL> Triplee23: if you just want a single command,  echo -e "first line\nsecond line" >>filename.txt 
[04:49] <Triplee23> LjL: thanx!
[04:49] <hylje> using vim, how would i shuffle between two (or more?) files at a time
[04:49] <feross> DaveTarmac: yes. Here is a link to a little howto.  http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com/ look for the WPA how to at the bottom
[04:49] <sipior> hylje: ":e <file2>"
[04:50] <Acs> hey
[04:50] <DaveTarmac> feross: sorry, my network is encrypted using WEP shared
[04:50] <Acs> doesn't ubuntu support dual monitor???
[04:50] <SlimeyPete> hylje: use ":e <file 2>" to open a new file, then ctrl-<n> to switch to window <n>
[04:50] <LjL> !dualhead > Acs    (Acs, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:50] <PepperBob> Acs, it's the graphics driver imho that has to support dual monitor
[04:50] <DaveTarmac> feross: and my network card uses the ACX111 chipset if that's any help
[04:50] <sipior> hylje: also, check out the "bufexplorer" plugin at vim.org, lovely for switching between multiple buffers
[04:50] <SlimeyPete> hylje: you can also press <n> then ctrl-w ctrl-^ to split the screen between the two buffers
[04:51] <mjr> Acs, short answer: Yes, but it doesn't have automatic configuration of dualhead; see the ubotu response LjL apparently sent you
[04:51] <DaveTarmac> feross: I have checked the wiki about compatible cards and the D-Link G520+ is on there as 'working out of the box' apparently, but I seem to be having a load of problems with it
[04:51] <Acs> mjr I read it
[04:51] <Acs> but it just tells that is supports
[04:52] <Acs> no config stuff
[04:52] <LjL> Acs: err, there is a web link, and it tells you to also see !xinerama, which has another link.
[04:52] <LjL> both links explain.
[04:52] <Acs> !Xinerama
[04:52] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:52] <ac> hello
[04:53] <Acs> thanks
[04:53] <ac> need a bit of help
[04:53] <ac> i have a hidden essid
[04:53] <LjL> !ask
[04:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:53] <ac> the way to connect that is
[04:53] <LjL> !enter
[04:53] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:53] <ac> ljl;)
[04:53] <PepperBob> heh
[04:53] <ac> iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid
[04:53] <ac> right?
[04:53] <sipior> LjL: please don't use ubotu as punctuation
[04:53] <sipior> ac: yep
[04:53] <MetaBookfoziS> Has anybody a working RT2561 wifi card on feisty setted up?
[04:54] <MetaBookfoziS> with wpapsk?
[04:54] <MetaBookfoziS> I just didn't get ipadress
[04:54] <ac> LjL I bet ubotu can't answer my question right...
[04:54] <LjL> ac: maybe
[04:54] <LjL> !wifi
[04:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:54] <hylje> sipior, SlimeyPete thanks
[04:54] <kintaro0e> hey guys..how to install adobe acrobat in Feisty Fawn
[04:54] <MetaBookfoziS> LjL > you think, i'm not watching that for a week?
[04:55] <LjL> MetaBookfoziS: i wasn't talking to you, i was talking to ac.
[04:55] <|StOnE|> hi ppl
[04:55] <sipior> kintaro0e: look at the "medibuntu" repository
[04:55] <sipior> kintaro0e: should have what you need
[04:55] <MetaBookfoziS> oh, sorrry
[04:56] <kintaro0e> sipior: sory but i'm new on ubuntu..how can i go to medibuntu
[04:56] <ianubuntu> how can i get menu support for my dvd playback on ubuntu - someone recommended me a program (4 letters in the name i think) but i can't remeber what
[04:56] <GigaClon> kintaro0e, you should already have a program that reads pdfs
[04:56] <ac> tx
[04:56] <sipior> kintaro0e: google "medibuntu", and it should turn up
[04:56] <kintaro0e> sipior: ok thanks
[04:57] <LjL> !medibuntu
[04:57] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[04:57] <ianubuntu> cpyo or something
[04:57] <Jack31> Does the intel centrino chipset use nvidia for video?
[04:57] <sipior> kintaro0e: follow the "repository howto" on the page, and then reload your package list in synaptic. acroread sould then be available
[04:58] <mjr> ianubuntu, xine, in the package xine-ui, does dvd-menus fine for me
[04:58] <kintaro0e> sipior: thanks
[04:58] <ianubuntu> it wasn't xine, it was a program which had a rather limited seperate UI for the controls, but it was pretty awesome
[04:58] <roxlu> hi!
[04:58] <digital_k> ianubuntu:you need to install livdvdcss2 for dvd encrypted dvd playback
[04:58] <sipior> Jack31: wikipedia has an extensive listing on Centrino, in all its phases
[04:58] <roxlu> Does someone knows an article how to install windows vista/xp + mac os x on ubuntu?
[04:59] <ianubuntu> digital_k: i have that thanks, but totem doesn't support menus
[04:59] <digital_k> i typed to many words in that response, sorry
[04:59] <sipior> Jack31: should have what you're looking for.
[04:59] <LjL> !virtualizers > roxlu    (roxlu, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:00] <sipior> roxlu: don't believe mac os install is possible atm, though i'd be happy to be wrong. no virtualisation for osx, to my knowledge...
[05:00] <jtreach> setting a static local ip in ubuntu anyone?
[05:00] <roxlu> sipior: check this: http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/mac_os_x_and_windows_xp_on_ubuntu
[05:00] <feenster> Just done a fresh install of 7.04 desktop, and i'm not seeing the top or bottom menu bar in Gnome. Any idea how to sort it?
[05:00] <sipior> jtreach: ifconfig <iface> <ipaddress> <netmask> up
[05:01] <sipior> jtreach: or just look in the network tab of the admin interface :)
[05:01] <Frogzoo> feenster: adjust vertical resolution? (crt)
[05:01] <jtreach> errrr sorry
[05:01] <jtreach> noob
[05:01] <jtreach> as it were
[05:01] <dyrne> feenster: try run gnome-panel from terminal
[05:01] <jtreach> can you explain really simply
[05:01] <dyrne> feenster: er.. its prob a res issue though
[05:01] <Frogzoo> jtreach: do it from network manager
[05:01] <jtreach> okay
[05:01] <sipior> roxlu: interesting, but light on details...
[05:02] <feenster> Thanks - how can I run a terminal when I cant see the menu bar, and can't access the quick launcher? All i can do is create launchers on the desktop :S
[05:02] <turten> Hello!
[05:02] <mobutu> http://www.starcraft2.com/screenshots.xml
[05:02] <ianubuntu> anyone know a dvd player that supports menus besides xine?
[05:02] <digital_k> feenster: it sounds as if your monitor is zoomed in, have you tried to set the verticle and horizontal on the monitors menu as was suggested?
[05:02] <turten> I'm trying to create a floppy image
[05:03] <mobutu> ianubuntu: ogle ?
[05:03] <digital_k> vertical even
[05:03] <turten> but dd says:dd: reading `/media/2515_MASTER': Is a directory
[05:03] <dyrne> feenster: well you can i guess alt-ctrl-f2 then login and type export DISPLAY=:0.0   then run gnome-panel
[05:03] <LjL> sipior: OS X for PPC can be virtualized using PearPC (and possibly qemu, not sure if it can boot it yet). OS X for Intel can be used under VMWare with modifications that may in some/many/most countries be illegal.
[05:03] <turten> any help here? Thanks
[05:03] <ianubuntu> mobutu: thats the one :D thanks
[05:03] <jtreach> network settings? is that right?
[05:03] <feenster> digital_k - i'm not sure I can - let me just check
[05:03] <dyrne> feenster: f7 to get back to bui
[05:03] <sipior> LjL: interesting, thanks.
[05:03] <jtreach> im trying top get around a NAT problem with azureus
[05:03] <sipior> LjL: i may even have a go, could be fun.
[05:03] <jtreach> its not my router, its something to do with ubuntu
[05:04] <LjL> sipior: the PPC emulation route is, of course, quite slow.
[05:04] <sipior> LjL: yeah, i figured :)
[05:05] <dyrne> feenster: feenster id adjust the monitor buttons untill you can see black around the top and bottom though
[05:06] <jtreach> okay i figured out how to give myself a static ip
[05:06] <jtreach> but it disconnects me if i change it
[05:06] <ianubuntu> test
[05:07] <jtreach> what do i put for ip address / subnet mask / gateway address are there standard values?
[05:07] <jtreach> or specific to my router
[05:07] <jtreach> and if so where would i find this information
[05:07] <saidkasim> i have problem when i insert dvd disc in my optiarc ad-7170 drive and i click to open it and recive this message "Invalid mount option when attepting to mount the drive"
[05:07] <dyrne> jtreach: im guessing if you change the static ip you might need to 'sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1' <-- or whatever
[05:07] <sipior> jtreach: generally folks use dhcp to get this from a provider. what are you trying to accomplish precisely?
[05:08] <AnThOnYhO> hello everybody My phone can recognize my bt adapter but can't connect to the computer why.
[05:08] <shane634> sounds like he is having NAT issues in Azureus
[05:08] <jtreach> the people over at azuereus support said a static ip would help my get around a NAT problem
[05:08] <jtreach> hence why im trying to give my computer a static ip rather than dhcp
[05:09] <shane634> jtreach, in your router can you set it as a static dhcp address?
[05:09] <jtreach> i think so yes
[05:09] <shane634> jtreach, this will give the ubuntu box the same IP every boot.. this will resolve the Azureus issue
[05:09] <sipior> jtreach: but generally your isp assigns these addresses, and prefer to do so dynamically. have you checked with them?
[05:10] <chainlynx> how do I save my session on the newest version of ubuntu?  it used to prompt me when I logged out
[05:10] <shane634> jtreach, you just need to know your MAC address
[05:10] <sipior> chainlynx: have a look at System-->Preferences-->Sessions
[05:10] <shane634> jtreach, you can get your MAC or hardware address with ifconfig in terminal
[05:10] <jtreach> okay
[05:11] <chainlynx> sipior, yes, the appropriate option is "automatically save changes to session" under "session options"?
[05:11] <saidkasim> i have problem when i insert dvd disc in my optiarc ad-7170 drive and i click to open it and recive this message "Invalid mount option when attepting to mount the drive"
[05:11] <Lazarus^> is there a way to obtain pressed CD's of the latest ubuntu release?
[05:11] <jtreach> the thing is it was working fine with another port earlier
[05:11] <sipior> chainlynx: i think there's also an "ask at logout" option
[05:11] <jtreach> so how can it be an ip problem
[05:11] <shane634> jtreach, then set up port forwading.. and tell firestarter to use that port
[05:12] <shane634> jtreach, for help on that look here http://portforward.com/routers.htm
[05:12] <jtreach> firestarted?
[05:12] <gcbdm> What's the fastest way to get ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant on my system once I installed Ubuntu?
[05:12] <jtreach> okay thank anyway
[05:12] <chainlynx> sipior: no, that's the only option I see under "session options" as well as a button that says "save the current session"
[05:12] <jtreach> thanks*
[05:12] <shane634> jtreach, firestarter is the frontend for IP tables the buuilt in firewall
[05:12] <sipior> chainlynx: ah well
[05:13] <Cryption> I need help installing mongrel_rails on Feisty
[05:13] <CheshireViking> Lazarus^, you need to use shipit
[05:13] <chainlynx> sipior: I actually did check this option and then a few things started going wacky so now I'm booting in failsafe mode... windows lost their borders/toolbars, always opened in the top left, lots of keyboard shortcuts didn't work anymore... can you speculate on a reason for this happening?
[05:14] <Lazarus^> Uhh.. I was planning to do a "Local ShipIt" thingy
[05:14] <chainlynx> even stranger, when I unchecked it, the undesired behavior persisted
[05:14] <sipior> chainlynx: problems with gconfd, most likely. i only save session manually, as i don't trust the damned thing, frankly.
[05:14] <Lazarus^> I would like to distribute Ubuntu CD's here as well
[05:14] <CheshireViking> Lazarus^, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ not sure about a local thing, but here's the website in case you haven;'t already got it
[05:15] <sipior> chainlynx: in fact, it's a problem going back to very early versions of gnome. perhaps they're considered features now...
[05:15] <Lazarus^> You know, I already know that... They only support up to Dapper
[05:15] <orbin> gcbdm: i think wpasupplicant is part of default install.  and ndiswrapper is on the cd iirc
[05:15] <coleb> Has anyone seen this error when doing a cvs login? cvs: ldap-nss.c:1374: do_init: Assertion `cfg->ldc_uris[__session.ls_current_uri]  != ((void *)0)' failed.
[05:15] <saidkasim> i have problem when i insert dvd disc in my optiarc ad-7170 drive and i click to open it and recive this message "Invalid mount option when attepting to mount the drive"
[05:15] <FunnyLookinHat> Lazarus^, usually LoCo teams do local distribution because they are allowed to request very large amounts of CDs
[05:15] <chainlynx> sipior: so how do you, personally, save your session manually?
[05:15] <Lazarus^> So how can I join a LoCo team?
[05:15] <mIgUeL_sAn> hi guys... what's the package name for wine? i need to install it using apt-get thanks in advance
[05:16] <orbin> wine
[05:16] <sipior> chainlynx: gnome-session-save
[05:16] <shane634> Lazarus^, in the ubuntu forums look for a loco team near you and sign up
[05:16] <Lazarus^> uhuhh.... I just registered
[05:16] <chainlynx> ok, thanks sipior
[05:16] <gcbdm> What's the fastest way to get ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant on my system once I installed Ubuntu?
[05:17] <`AnthraX> hello
[05:17] <`AnthraX> i got a problem :>
[05:17] <shane634> gcbdm, probably synaptic
[05:17] <devcenter> hello, guys
[05:17] <mIgUeL_sAn> !wine
[05:17] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:17] <gcbdm> shane634: The thing is that I won't have my wireless setup yet.
[05:17] <`AnthraX> E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <Cryption> What is the equivalent of chkconfig on Ubuntu?
[05:17] <chainlynx> one more question... I'm booting in failsafe mode now for GNOME and nothing seems to be different... I gather that failsafe mode does not run the stuff in ~/.gnome2/sessions ... are these programs really that helpful/essential?
[05:17] <devcenter> I liked to install mercury-messenger with apt-get.....but it dont search
[05:18] <Cryption> Anyone here running Mongrel on Feisty?
[05:18] <shane634> gcbdm, i think ndiswrapper is on the install cd not certain though.. you will need net or another comp for wpa
[05:18] <swatF1RESTORM> NetworkingQuestion: what's the best way to freshly install feisty in a wifi & LAN network?
[05:18] <devcenter> I liked to install mercury-messenger with apt-get.....but it dont meet
[05:18] <jsizzle> greets, anyone know how to get the font garamond on ubuntu?
[05:18] <gcbdm> shane634: Because when I first installed Ubuntu, I tried to install wpa_supplicanyt by hand. And it was depedency hell
[05:19] <shane634> gcbdm, yes i am sure it was
[05:19] <apakatt>  i've got a strange problem. my Kubuntu suddely stoped working yesterday. when i reach KDM-login manager and enter my password it falls back to KDM again, and X failes to start from console even though i havn't touch either my hardware or any software (that i can rember)
[05:19] <shane634> apakatt, did you do any updates at all?
[05:19] <feross> swatF1RESTORM: what's your concern? the best way is the same no matter what ;)
[05:20] <AlbertoP> hello
[05:20] <feross> swatF1RESTORM: just download the CD image, burn it, boot and install. After instal configure wifi and lan.. done
[05:20] <apakatt> shane634: I don't think so, not any I remember. But i only do official updates from ubuntu-repos and i dont think it has been any x.org related or such
[05:20] <swatF1RESTORM> feross: my concern is the ease of switching back and forth. It's been a real headache so far and I think a fresh reinstall is needed.
[05:21] <shane634> apakatt, which version are you using? if you did a kernel update it can break X
[05:21] <apakatt> shane634: Kubuntu 7.04 and i have tried different old kernels aswell
[05:21] <swatF1RESTORM> feross: I'm sitting at the 'Start or Install Ubuntu' screen now ;-)
[05:21] <`AnthraX> E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:21] <shane634> apakatt, which vid card? can you pastebin your xorg.conf file?
[05:22] <gluttony> hi. ive been running termnial programs latley, and i accidently configure the email client Mutt wrong. how do i fix this?
[05:22] <devcenter> I liked to install mercury-messenger with apt-get.....but it dont meet
[05:22] <PepperBob> gluttony, dpkg-reconfigure will probably do
[05:22] <forteshadow> How does one uninstall PPC Ubuntu
[05:23] <forteshadow> How does one uninstall PPC Ubuntu?
[05:23] <Broccoly> does anyone have experiance with mencoder turning jpg's into movies?
[05:23] <mjr> forteshadow, by installing something else in its place?
[05:23] <Frogzoo> !anyone | Broccoly
[05:23] <ubotu> Broccoly: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:23] <seraphim> download, burn, insert, install
[05:23] <cn28h> how do I remove keys from my known_hosts file? Usually it stores the host names with the keys so that you can tell which is which but i don't see it in my hosts file now.  Is there some manager I'm suppowed to use (running kubuntu feisty)
[05:23] <apakatt> shane634: GF660 GT http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21988/
[05:23] <saidkasim> i have problem when i insert dvd disc in my optiarc ad-7170 drive and i click to open it and recive this message "Invalid mount option when attepting to mount the drive"
[05:24] <Broccoly> Frogzoo: i did ask, jeez
[05:24] <forteshadow> mjr, I just want to get rid of it. I don't want anything else.
[05:24] <gluttony> dpkg-reconfigure told me to speciy what to reconfig. where to i put that in the command
[05:24] <PepperBob> gluttony, well dpkg-reconfigure <package-name>
[05:24] <jsizzle> does anyone have the font garamond working in ubuntu?
[05:24] <gluttony> thanks
[05:24] <swatF1RESTORM> Is there a way I can assign network interface names doing a fresh install? i.e. name my wireless wlan0 from the jump?
[05:25] <forteshadow> How does one uninstall PPC Ubuntu?
[05:25] <PepperBob> forteshadow, what do you mean by "uninstall" - from you ibook?
[05:25] <forteshadow> It's on an iMac
[05:25] <gluttony> does anyone know how to set up an email account in mutt?
[05:25] <forteshadow> On a partion
[05:25] <shane634> apakatt, i need to see this file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:26] <apakatt> shane634: one sec, the wierd thing is that i have not changed my xorg for years and it has worked perfectly until now.
[05:26] <shane634> apakatt, that is odd for sure then
[05:27] <forteshadow> How does one uninstall PPC Ubuntu on a pariton?
[05:27] <PepperBob> forteshadow, i think everyone read you question now several times. so be patient a little...
[05:27] <forteshadow> Okay, Sorry.
[05:27] <apakatt> shane634: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21989/
[05:27] <PepperBob> forteshadow, i can imagine using the os x disk utility
[05:28] <forteshadow> Okay, I will try that.
[05:28] <forteshadow> Thanks
[05:28] <PepperBob> forteshadow, i guess you're running os x and ubuntu parallel?
[05:28] <forteshadow> No, It's a PPC mac
[05:28] <forteshadow> Oh wait
[05:28] <forteshadow> Duh, yes.
[05:28] <PepperBob> forteshadow, well on this mac there's os x and ubuntu installed right?
[05:28] <forteshadow> Yep.
[05:28] <orbin> swatF1RESTORM: don't think so.
[05:28] <PepperBob> forteshadow, is os x asking what os to boot when booting up?
[05:28] <gluttony> anyone know another terminal email client besides mutt?
[05:29] <Grummus> apakatt, X is working towards automatic detection with every new release, the goal is to have only one entry in the xorg.conf, the driver you use, for some setups it already works
[05:29] <drif> where do I harness special keyboard functions under my own usage? like volume wheel
[05:29] <saidkasim> dragi ljudi pa jestel vi normalni :)
[05:29] <saidkasim> jebo vas kod
[05:29] <forteshadow> It's a boot menu
[05:29] <saidkasim> al onaj iz FDS-a
[05:29] <saidkasim> il osmica
[05:29] <saidkasim> 8
[05:29] <shane634> apakatt, that all looks right to me
[05:30] <devcenter> guys, to exist a software to alert for new mail message
[05:30] <devcenter> a simple software for it!
[05:30] <seraphim> mail-notification
[05:31] <orbisvicis> um, Is it possible to get the top panel back exactly as it was originally ?
[05:31] <flac> Hi there, i'm having a big problem with my sound ....
[05:31] <flac> no sound at all, and no solution on forums ..
[05:32] <BE-shoter> drivers for sound card?
[05:32] <flac> it is on a laptop
[05:32] <flac> HDA intel
[05:32] <Grummus> apakatt, at least let X detect monitor automatically if it's not a very old crt/lcd
[05:32] <stefg> !intelhda | flac
[05:32] <ubotu> flac: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[05:32] <orbin> orbisvicis: why? what have you done? :P
[05:32] <devcenter> seraphim: but mail notification is a gnome application, i need a email notification for kde application
[05:32] <AndrewB> !dvd
[05:32] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:33] <flac> ubotu: Thnaks, I'll see :)
[05:33] <seraphim> devcenter: oh. sorry, no idea.
[05:33] <apakatt> Grummus: but i dont get it way it suddenly stopped working after all this time
[05:33] <swatF1RESTORM> orbin: any idea why?
[05:33] <orbisvicis> lol, orbin , I have deleted it ; (
[05:33] <flac> stefg: thanks :)
[05:34] <Grummus> apakatt, well you are doing a bit funny nvidia specific stuff in this xorg.conf, can you pastebin the X.out logfile?
[05:34] <DIGITALSERVER_> hello
[05:34] <apakatt> Grummus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21988/
[05:35] <tashe> guys, can someone help me with installing DC++ on 7.04, please?
[05:35] <DIGITALSERVER_> my ubuntu don't work in internet, help me
[05:35] <orbisvicis> deleting .gnome2 did not restore the panel !
[05:35] <orbin> swatF1RESTORM: as to why you can't choose interface names during install?  no, sorry.  easy enough to just edit it afterwards though.
[05:35] <flac> stefg: I knew thius page in fact ... Ihave already done all this, but nothing worked ...
[05:35] <orbin> orbisvicis: you could always re-create it
[05:35] <Grummus> apakatt, there is no error in the logfile, no reason why X should not start
[05:35] <afief> DIGITALSERVER_, what type of connection do you use?
[05:36] <SpArtAko> hi
[05:36] <stefg> flac: did you recompile alsa (as staed on the page)?
[05:36] <SpArtAko> speak spanish?
[05:36] <swatF1RESTORM> orbin: do you think you could help me with that then? after I reinstall?
[05:36] <DIGITALSERVER_> eth0
[05:36] <tashe> guys, can someone help me with installing DC++ on 7.04, please?
[05:36] <stefg> !es
[05:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:36] <apakatt> Grummus: its so wierd. KDM starts with correct resolution aswell
[05:36] <afief> DIGITALSERVER_, do you need to dial, use a static IP, anything?
[05:36] <flac> stefg: Yes ... I'll try another time :)
[05:36] <Grummus> well then it's a problem with gdm not X
[05:36] <saidkasim> olosi
[05:37] <saidkasim> i have problem when i insert dvd disc in my optiarc ad-7170 drive and i click to open it and recive this message "Invalid mount option when attepting to mount the drive"
[05:37] <stefg> !fixres
[05:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:37] <DIGITALSERVER_> afief i have dhcp ok
[05:37] <Yggdrasil>  hello, i know this inst quite the proper place to ask this , does anyone know if there is a way to run a console/terminal in xchat , under one of the tabs ? iseem to remember being able to do this.
[05:37] <DIGITALSERVER_> automatic is good?
[05:37] <dbrewer_rjr> on feisty, vncviewer localhost:2 just gives me a tweed background. anyone know what is going on?
[05:37] <afief> DIGITALSERVER_, from what you're saying network-manager should be able to figure it out by itself
[05:37] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[05:38] <apakatt> Grummus: i dont know, it failes to start from console aswell
[05:38] <dinochopins> i need to start up my postgresql 8.1 on ubuntu box
[05:38] <orbin> swatF1RESTORM: run ifconfig to work out the mac address of the interface you want to relabel, edit /etc/iftab to say, replace eth1 with wlan0, then match it with /etc/network/interfaces
[05:38] <haptiK> does anyone in here have a PDF of the Zend PHP5 Practice Book?
[05:38] <Grummus> apakatt, then there should be some sort of error message, there is none in the log...
[05:38] <dinochopins> where should I put the script ? /etc/profile, /etc/rc.local ?
[05:38] <RealET> hi, My NTFS USB drives doesn't auto mount on 7.04, can't find how to make them auto mount when I plug them
[05:38] <stefg> dinochopins: rc.local
[05:39] <RealET> ntfs3g is no help
[05:39] <DIGITALSERVER_> dhcp automatic is good or needs ip static?
[05:39] <RealET> nor pmount
[05:39] <dinochopins> stefg, thanks :)
[05:40] <orbisvicis> orbin : I cant seem to find the item that displays tray processes, ie beryl & firestarter ?
[05:40] <travel> If I have a slow laptop HDD would reiser or EXT3 be better for performance
[05:40] <Cryption> Is the version of ECLIPSE in Feisty using GCJ or Java?
[05:40] <travel> Isn't reiser faster?
[05:40] <orbin> orbisvicis: notification area
[05:40] <dbrewer_rjr> on feisty, vncviewer localhost:2 just gives me a tweed background. anyone know what is going on?
[05:40] <Grummus> travel, not really
[05:41] <orbisvicis> orbin : thank you !
[05:41] <emarkd> hello
[05:41] <Yggdrasil> does anyone know if there is a way to run a console/terminal in xchat , under one of the tabs ? iseem to remember being able to do this.
[05:41] <stefg> RealET: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[05:42] <orbin> orbisvicis: i'd be stumped if you deleted both panels though :)
[05:43] <orbisvicis> im glad I didn't, lol
[05:43] <dbrewer_rjr> there are 10 different ways of explaining binary and I know both of them
[05:43] <LjL> mIgUeL_sAn: surprisingly, it's "wine". it's in Universe, you need to have it enabled.
[05:43] <dbrewer_rjr> can anyone help me with vnc?
[05:43] <dbrewer_rjr> on feisty, vncviewer localhost:2 just gives me a tweed background. anyone know what is going on?
[05:44] <LjL> dbrewer_rjr: there are 1024x768 ways of using vnc, and i don't know any of them.
[05:44] <shane634> anyone got an Alienware M9700 running with SLI?
[05:44] <Yasuo> hi, are tehre packages for vmware-player 2?
[05:44] <haptiK> im downloading VNC right now
[05:44] <tashe> please help
[05:44] <dunta> I need some help with a dualboot situation.
[05:44] <Yasuo> or vmware-player 2 backports for dapper
[05:44] <nelsonuwp> any idea how to use yahoo's music? i get an unsupported browser
[05:45] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, looks like there is just a X server running without any application when you connect to it via vnc
[05:45] <Eliveer> Yggdrasil:there is a link at the linux documentation project that covers this as part of irc chat background information
[05:45] <foormea> hey
[05:45] <dbrewer_rjr> can you give me the line to put in xstartup?
[05:46] <Yggdrasil> eliveer where ?
[05:46] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: can you give me the line to put into xstartup?
[05:46] <gluttony> do you use the !#/bin/bash command to make any text file into an exe?
[05:46] <foormea> i'm desperately looking for the second life binary that was released before 1.15.1.3, does anyone know where i could find it? 1.15.1.3 seems not to work with ubuntu (although apparently it works with other distros)
[05:46] <jcaceres> hello i have lost my capability of administrator, can i recover it?
[05:46] <Eliveer> Yggdrasil: let me look now and will be back
[05:46] <dr_willis> !root
[05:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:46] <jcaceres> i am in the group admin\
[05:46] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/56.html
[05:47] <jcaceres> i men i gnome
[05:47] <dr_willis> jcaceres,  you removed the inital first user? or did somthing else odd?
[05:47] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, google is wonderful thing :)
[05:47] <jcaceres> dr_willis, i did groupmod jcaceres root
[05:47] <jcaceres> because i needed to add some libraries for a while
[05:47] <drif> am I able to grab logitech keyboard commands such as 'volume wheel'? to make it do something else than adjusting my volume?
[05:48] <tashe> Type 'deb' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <flac> stefg: that didn't work :( compilation is Ok but no sound !
[05:48] <RealET> stefg: when I plug the USB drive, ubuntu tell me : "What do you want to do?" Media type : "Unmount media"
[05:48] <tashe> can soome one helpm e with this one ("Type 'deb' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list")
[05:48] <flac> tashe: copy here the line 44 of your sources.list
[05:48] <dr_willis> jcaceres,  thats a command ive never used, or actually HEARD about untill just now. :)
[05:49] <tashe> I'll try
[05:49] <jcaceres> but then when i go to system there is not administrator
[05:49] <SlimeyPete> tashe: looks like you have some characters in the file, before 'deb'. The line needs to start with deb.
[05:49] <tashe> to find it
[05:49] <drif> tashe: seems there's some garbage chars in your sources.list
[05:49] <dr_willis> jcaceres,  from reading its man pages. it modifies the groups file.  you may have to boot to rescue mode and repair that file manually
[05:49] <jcaceres> i have repairit
[05:49] <flac> tashe: if you read with vim it shows you the line number
[05:50] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: same pattern. i found that page in google too, about a day ago
[05:50] <tashe> i reached the /etc/apt/ directory, but how can i open the file?
[05:50] <flac> vim sources.list in console mode
[05:50] <tashe> i am completely new to this one
[05:50] <Eliveer> Yggdrasil: found it---http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IRC/index.html
[05:50] <flac> or gedit sources.list if you want a graphical interface
[05:50] <jcaceres> but when i go to system there is nothing
[05:50] <Yggdrasil> Eliveer thanks
[05:50] <defrysk> sudo gedit blahblah
[05:50] <shane634> tashe, either will tell ya what line you are on
[05:51] <tashe> i opened it
[05:51] <devcenter> anyone install kde 4 in ubuntu 7.04
[05:51] <Nalleman> Hi, just wonder how to install some cool "icon panels" for the desktop
[05:51] <shane634> no alienware users on today?
[05:51] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, how do you start vnc? via vncserver or Xvnc?
[05:52] <Eliveer> devcenter: have not done that but i thought that was the purpose of kubuntu?
[05:52] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: i just type 'vncserver'
[05:52] <yiphoyin> hi
[05:52] <flac> tashe: so copy it here :)
[05:52] <yiphoyin> have hk ppl?
[05:52] <life> it said ubuntu and kubuntu were aimed at different audiences
[05:53] <life> but didn't say what audiences
[05:53] <life> ?
[05:53] <neverblue> thats life :)
[05:53] <dr_willis> vncserver should spawn a 'virtual' desktop in the background you can connect to with a vnc client. xvnc does a similer task.. but a little differently. it shares the current desktop (i belive)
[05:53] <shane634> life, KDE is just a different desktop environment.. all about freedom here
[05:53] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, you edit the ~/.vnc/xstartup file from the same user you run "vncserver"?
[05:53] <dr_willis> i run kde and gnome and xfce all 3 :) and others. on same box.
[05:53] <emarkd> anyone know how to config the keyboard media buttons in edgy?  they work, i just need them to do something different
[05:53] <life> so it kubuntu isn't aimed at developers/programmers?
[05:54] <neverblue> http://pastebin.ca/502597 <-- can someone look at my xorg.conf to setup duals?
[05:54] <dr_willis> life,  no its not.
[05:54] <neverblue> life, what tools do you use?
[05:54] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: i justed killed the vncserver session, and typed 'Xvnc'. it says 'SErver is already active for display 0'
[05:54] <shane634> life, it can be used for whatever your heart desires mate
[05:54] <stefg> !keytouch | emarkd
[05:54] <ubotu> emarkd: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[05:54] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: yes to your last
[05:54] <tashe> this is line 44
[05:54] <tashe> deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main
[05:54] <life> ok, so the functionality of the desktop is different?
[05:54] <tashe> this is line 44
[05:54] <tashe> deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main
[05:54] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, Xvnc is normally run via a desktop manager like gdm or kdm
[05:54] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to setup an ubuntu box as a PXE server, and I'm following these directions http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server it says if you have a DHCP server, add this to it, my DHCP server is my router, do I still add that?  Sorry if this is the wrong room
[05:54] <neverblue> life, why not give them both a try?
[05:55] <dr_willis> dbrewer_rjr,  how did you  kill it? you should of used the vncserver --kill :0 command (or similer)
[05:55] <defrysk> tashe, be wise and remove the complete line
[05:55] <life> i am new to ubuntu, have  been using it for about 3 weeks, its awesome, i used automatix and beryl
[05:55] <shane634> life,  it is a different desktop is all
[05:55] <emarkd> stefg:  thanks, but i was looking for a commandline solution...
[05:55] <tashe> i tried
[05:55] <tashe> and says that i dont have acces
[05:55] <shane634> life, meaning it looks differnt
[05:55] <LjL> !automatix
[05:55] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:55] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: yes that is how i killed it... vncserver -kill :2
[05:55] <haptiK> whats the best option: VMWare WorkStation and Install Ubuntu myself or download VMPlayer and install a VMTN of Ubuntu???
[05:55] <life> ok, you said you  were running them both from the same box?  same install?  or do i need a new partition/etc..
[05:55] <defrysk> tashe use sudo gedit blah blah
[05:55] <dr_willis> tashe,  you need to use sudo/root access to edit that file.
[05:55] <defrysk> tashe, you need root acces..
[05:56] <shane634> life, just type in a terminal apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:56] <defrysk> tashe, and stay away from automatix
[05:56] <dr_willis> haptiK,  ive not seen a feisty vmware image yet.. they mey be out now however. That does save time.
[05:56] <tashe> ok
[05:56] <tashe> how do i become sudo?
[05:56] <LjL> !sudo > tashe    (tashe, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:56] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, when you edit vnc config files you have to kill / restart the vncserver
[05:56] <haptiK> dr_willis there is a feisty image i believe.
[05:56] <dr_willis> haptiK,  then use it and save an hr :)
[05:56] <life> after i do that, i will be able to switch between u and k with no problems?  how do i switch between them?
[05:56] <LjL> tashe: sudo is a command, you don't become sudo. sudo allows you to gain superuser privileges temporarily for executing a command that needs them.
[05:56] <shane634> tashe, simply type sudo in front of whatever you opened it with
[05:56] <JP_> lo folks, where can i suggest features for the gutsy gibbon release?
[05:56] <haptiK> dr_willis: will i be able to run it as if its on my machine? i mean. install software and do whatever i want?
[05:56] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, i would just do "killall vncserver" ;)
[05:56] <LjL> life: by selecting the desired type of session from your login screen
[05:57] <neverblue> http://pastebin.ca/502597 <-- can someone look at my xorg.conf to setup duals?
[05:57] <dr_willis> haptiK,  of course
[05:57] <life>  o i c.  well that is pretty cool
[05:57] <shane634> JP_, in the gutsy devel forum
[05:57] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, and check with "ps ax | grep vnc" if anything survived
[05:57] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: when I ps -ef and grep for vnc, there is nothing running, but when I type Xvnc, it says the process is running
[05:57] <JP_> shane634: where is that?
[05:57] <life> ok  a couple more questions real quick
[05:57] <tashe> Perfect guys
[05:57] <tashe> i fixed it
[05:57] <haptiK> dr_willis: excellent. this way i wont have to renew my licence key every 30 days too
[05:57] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, do not run Xvnc
[05:57] <shane634> JP_,  at ubuntu forums
[05:57] <dr_willis> for vncserver - killing it improperly may leave some pid/log files laying about.
[05:57] <life> what are the requirements for edubuntu?
[05:57] <haptiK> dr_willis: if i was to use vmware workstation that is
[05:57] <dr_willis> haptiK,  license key? 30 days? for what? i just use the free vmware server.
[05:58] <life> and will it run slowly on older computers?
[05:58] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, Xvnc is an entirely different beast then vncserver
[05:58] <dr_willis> life,  for an older box xubuntu may be the  best bet.
[05:58] <life> also, can i have u/k/e all on same box?
[05:58] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: typing 'Xvnc' gives : Server is already active for display 0
[05:58] <shane634> JP_, this is a link http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=238
[05:58] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, yes
[05:58] <life> xubuntu.. ah... i will look that up too
[05:58] <haptiK> dr_willis: uhm... free vmware server to run ubuntu desktop?
[05:58] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, that's actually correct behaviour, do not run Xnvc
[05:58] <dr_willis> life,  you can easially install ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu on the same box. they are just differnet packages.
[05:58] <life> wow
[05:58] <LjL> tashe: yes
[05:59] <stefg> !edubuntu
[05:59] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[05:59] <dr_willis> haptiK,  i got the free vbmware server. i use it to test out different disrtos all the time.
[05:59] <haptiK> dr_willis:  hmm ill download that
[05:59] <shane634> life, if you have the free disk space you can have em all and pick at login lol
[05:59] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, just run "vncserver"
[05:59] <life> how in depth is the educational aspect of it , anyone know?
[05:59] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: when i kill the vncserver, i always run ps -ef to check the kill.
[05:59] <life> each one takes a couple gigs?
[05:59] <shane634> life, it is geared toward children i believe
[05:59] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, good :)
[05:59] <dbrewer_rjr> i always start with just 'vncserver'
[06:00] <life> ya,  i am helping my friend build a computer for his little sister
[06:00] <JP_> thanks shane634
[06:00] <shane634> life, edubuntu is good then
[06:00] <aubade> ^ But her a mini, be done with it!
[06:00] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: i always start with just 'vncserver'
[06:00] <shane634> JP_, no problem mate
[06:00] <RealET> stefg: pmount-hal give me a dbus_connexion_close error (cf http://www.google.fr/search?q=dbus_connection_close+ntfs+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:fr:official&client=firefox-a)
[06:00] <dr_willis> best way to kill off vncserver is --->   vncserver -kill <X-display>
[06:00] <life> ok great, well i am downloading the other iso's... i guess when that is done i will try and install the other os's
[06:01] <orbin> life: you might be getting confused.
[06:01] <dr_willis> life,  you are doing it wrongly. :)
[06:01] <life> so i ... sudo apt-get command command?
[06:01] <dr_willis> life,  you can install ubuntu, then apt-get install most all the other desktops
[06:01] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: i think i need another line than just 'exec gnaome-session &'
[06:01] <aubade> Going to kiss someone/something if there aren't a/v sync issues. Even if I couldn't extract the chapters listing properly.
[06:01] <dr_willis> life,  install ubuntu, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[06:01] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: read gnome
[06:01] <dr_willis> and ya got all 3
[06:01] <shane634> life, you can just install em off the net no need for new downloads and burning
[06:01] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, anything past "exec [...]  &" will get ignored
[06:01] <life> ok, well i can do that on mine, but i figured i will burn it on disc for them, they will not have a good net connection
[06:01] <haptiK> dr_willis: vmware server download area tells me i need a valid serial
[06:01] <dr_willis> amazing how simple ubuntu can make things.
[06:01] <shane634> life, ok then lol
[06:02] <life> ok supergreat, thanx shane
[06:02] <life> i am going to go read about xubuntu
[06:02] <life> thx all
[06:02] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: then it must have something to do with the geometry?
[06:02] <dr_willis> haptiK,  they want your email address. fill out the form.. get serial.. enjoy. They dont even check the email address
[06:02] <anton1> what is xubuntu desktop ?
[06:02] <shane634> life, thank the good people at Ubuntu not me lol
[06:02] <dr_willis> !xubuntu
[06:02] <haptiK> see thast what i was doing with workstation
[06:02] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[06:02] <haptiK> ffs now i have to restart my download lol
[06:02] <life> thx good people at ubuntu
[06:02] <life> :-)
[06:02] <anton1> thanks :)
[06:03] <dr_willis> haptiK,  ive never used workstation.  i just use the free server. on several machines.
[06:03] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, use "vncserver -geometry widthxheight"
[06:03] <_Duesentrieb_> hi all
[06:03] <_Duesentrieb_> how do i find the name/type/id of my laptop's main board?
[06:03] <Grummus> dbrewer_rjr, also "man vncserver" is very informative :)
[06:03] <haptiK> cockballs. i found the free server section . i was in teh wrong area
[06:03] <haptiK> dr_willis: cheers ears
[06:03] <_Duesentrieb_> i guess it's in /proc somewhere...
[06:03] <_Duesentrieb_> but where?
[06:03] <Motorhead> ubuntu ftw
[06:03] <Motorhead> sorry
[06:04] <haptiK> \o/ yay!
[06:04] <haptiK>  |
[06:04] <Motorhead> heh
[06:04] <haptiK> ahh you messed up my little guy before i could get the legs on
[06:04] <RealET> stefg: I have this bug : http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg310921.html
[06:04] <DVS01> my systray stopped working properly. programs that show up in it no longer do (such as skype), and wine's systray ends up being its own window. also, the network manager disappeared from the systray. why would this happen and how can i fix it?
[06:04] <DVS01> using gnome
[06:04] <haptiK> ./\
[06:04] <dbrewer_rjr> Grummus: i just found the log file. it has errors i can work on. bye for now
[06:04] <DVS01> with feisty
[06:04] <aubade> Audio doesn't sync up properly. ;\
[06:05] <aubade> Still, 140m movie @ 960M isn't bad.
[06:05] <newbie001> Hello
[06:05] <flac> hello
[06:05] <newbie001> How can I edit the mime types in Nautilus?
[06:05] <newbie001> I couldn't find any info on google...
[06:06] <haptiK> my barse is itching like mad
[06:06] <aubade> gconf-editor but there's bound to be a more sane place.
[06:06] <newbie001> Ok... That's good....
[06:07] <flac> I still have no sound ... I tried this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[06:07] <newbie001> I couldn't find any easy way to edit an existing application.
[06:07] <flac> but nothing helps
[06:07] <haptiK> lol no sound 4 u!
[06:07] <newbie001> But I'll try gconf-editor
[06:07] <flac> haptiK: ?
[06:07] <haptiK> *point and laugh*
[06:07] <flac> haptiK: :(
[06:07] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[06:07] <flac> hi
[06:07] <haptiK> *giggle tee hee*
[06:08] <dinochopins> I used to set my IP address (eth0) to class C network => 192.168.2.1
[06:08] <fw1> /msgNickServhelp IDENTIFY
[06:08] <dinochopins> with subnet 255.255.255.0
[06:09] <dinochopins> but when I set to IP then when I try to set to other IP : 202.57.4.43
[06:09] <orbisvicis> has any one noticed that applications launched from the tray in the top panel have this quick enlarging-square animation effect ?
[06:09] <stefg> !coc | haptiK
[06:09] <ubotu> haptiK: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:09] <haptiK> stefg: ffs im just messing with him. he knows im joking.
[06:09] <dinochopins> It returns : Could not enable the interface eth0. Check that the settings are correct for this network and that the computer is correctly connected to it
[06:09] <dinochopins> why it returns that ?
[06:09] <orbisvicis> is it possible to turn that off ?
[06:10] <haptiK> flac: i'm sorry i was making fun of you :)
[06:10] <flac> haptiK: I know ...
[06:10] <Dutch_Gecko> dinochopins: that address is an internet address and could already be in use
[06:10] <Dutch_Gecko> if it is, the network won't let you enable it
[06:10] <foormea> hey. does anyone have the one-before-last binary of secondlife? i can't find it anywhere and latest binary won't work here...
[06:10] <dinochopins> Ducth_Gecko, yes the address already in use... and it's also my server
[06:11] <dinochopins> Dutch_Gecko, now I try to setup a replacement server (Ubuntu box) and still not connected to any cable
[06:11] <Dutch_Gecko> ah ok
[06:11] <dr_willis> foormea,  from what little ive used 2nd live under linux. it updates itself to the latest when ran. May be they got some bigger bugs going on.
[06:11] <Motorhead> DVS01: have you tried deleting gnome configuration?
[06:11] <juanescle> no entender
[06:11] <dinochopins> Dutch_Gecko, should I plugin any cable first ?
[06:11] <foormea> dr_willis> nah, auto update is not supported on linux version :)
[06:12] <Dutch_Gecko> dont think it would make a difference
[06:12] <Dutch_Gecko> hmm, I'm not sure
[06:12] <dinochopins> Dutch_Gecko, yeah.. think so. Hm.. weird
[06:12] <Dutch_Gecko> anyone else?
[06:12] <dr_willis> foormea,  i though i saw it auto-updating stuff last  minth.. but i do run/install it as a user. notsystem wide
[06:12] <haptiK> i would like to run beryl. what window manager should i run beryl on?
[06:12] <belfegor> there is a program like dc++ for ubuntu?
[06:12] <dr_willis> foormea,  but that may of been for little updates
[06:12] <flac> belfegor: linuxdcpp
[06:12] <belfegor> ok thanks
[06:13] <foormea> yeah. i run it as user, not systemwide too. hum. does that latest version work on your box?
[06:13] <anton1> q again: does ubuntu support switch user like windows?
[06:13] <haptiK> oh beryl is a window manager
[06:13] <haptiK> woops
[06:13] <Grummus> dinochopins, network config also includes dns / routing information, did you change this also to the "live" setup?
[06:13] <gordonjcp> anton1: what does Windows do?
[06:13] <dr_willis> foormea,  using remote linux desktop at the moment.. so not tried it ina bout a month. so cant tell ya
[06:13] <Motorhead> /q
[06:13] <dinochopins> Grummus, hm... where do I take a look at that configuration ?
[06:13] <foormea> dr_willis> i see. well thanks anyway :)
[06:14] <Motorhead> D=
[06:14] <anton1> gordonjcp: when I login as a user.. I can switch (or login again) as another user...
[06:14] <Crane_> dinochopins: are you behind a router
[06:14] <anton1> it helps here in my home where we share the pc..
[06:14] <juanescle> help help help
[06:14] <LjL> !helpme
[06:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:14] <Crane_> dinochopins: it could be that that range of IP is not available
[06:14] <gordonjcp> anton1: well, you can log out and log in as another user, like in Windows
[06:14] <dinochopins> Crane_ : no.. still a stand alone one
[06:15] <soundray> anton1: when you select System-Quit, there is a "Switch user" option. When you've logged in a second time, you can switch back and forth with Ctrl-Alt-F7 and Ctrl-Alt-F9
[06:15] <gordonjcp> anton1: but you could also use sudo from the command line or gksu to run something as root
[06:15] <dinochopins> Crane_ : my server is still an isolated one, not connected to any network
[06:15] <dinochopins> Crane_ : I need to migrate some data from PLESK, so I need to set the live IP
[06:15] <Crane_> dinochopins: then you computer connect direct to the modem that is going out to internet?
[06:15] <anton1> gordonjcp: I mean we don't have to logoff the current user... if I run a program and switch to another user.. my program still run...
[06:15] <Crane_> oh OK
[06:16] <Crane_> I missed that parts
[06:16] <dinochopins> Crane_ : there is a modem, but also not up :)
[06:16] <soundray> anton1: that's how switch user works in Ubuntu as well
[06:16] <anton1> it's like multiple users log on simultaneously on a single computer
[06:16] <dinochopins> Crane_ : it's ok... what should I do ?
[06:16] <soundray> anton1: are you listening?
[06:16] <intangir_> lorenzo lammas!
[06:16] <intangir_> hahaha
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[06:16] <intangir_> oops mistell
[06:16] <dinochopins> Crane_ : the network script seems ok, it looks like the one that I going to replace soon
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[06:16] <dinochopins> Crane_ : weird...
[06:17] <Grummus> dinochopins, i am not on a ubuntu box right now, but if your dns / routing information does not fit to your ip address it maybe result in the network not coming up
[06:17] <anton1> soundray: oh I found it .... thanks man.. stupid me.. :)
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[06:17] <newbie001> Ok, nothing on gconf-editor
[06:17] <dinochopins> Grummus:  Ok, will try to find out first...
[06:17] <newbie001> Any other idea?
[06:17] <Crane_> dinochopins: I'm confused, so you are connected to a modem but it is down. You are not connected to a network or router?
[06:18] <anton1> soundray: sorry.. I was checking around first before replying... :) I just got my box up ... :)
[06:18] <Grummus> Crane_, i think dinochopins is setting up a second box as a replacement for a server
[06:18] <newbie001> Anyone knows how to edit the application that opens a file?
[06:18] <dinochopins> Grummus, exactly
[06:19] <soundray> newbie001: right-click, select Properties, select the Open with... tab
[06:19] <dinochopins> Grummus, in my named.conf zone => there is a zone which point to 192.168.1.1, will try to troubleshoot that
[06:19] <hentai_jeff> anyone know a better IRC bot then eggdrop? preferably easier to setup too
[06:20] <Grummus> dinochopins, that's not the problem
[06:20] <apokryphos> hentai_jeff: supybot is the most popular one on freenode probably
[06:20] <flac> Ok, episode 3 : now when I try to play a sound, xmms says "check that your soundcard is properlyconfigured or that another program is not blocking the sound"
[06:20] <newbie001> soundray: that allows me to add or remove aplications. But I want to edit a personalized application I have already set.
[06:20] <hentai_jeff> thanks apok
[06:20] <belgarath_> Hi, anyone know a good url/wiki about acpi for laptops ???
[06:20] <Crane_> dinochopins: look at /etc/network/interfaces
[06:20] <dinochopins> Grummus, yes.. exactly not the problem :)
[06:20] <Crane_> dinochopins: That is where you can set up a static IP
[06:20] <Flatline> tu
[06:21] <dinochopins> Crane_, ok.. will take a look at it
[06:21] <soundray> newbie001: I'm not sure what you mean -- can you rephrase?
[06:21] <stefg> flac: check that alsa is configured as output for xmms,
[06:21] <Flatline> Hello, I'm having a problem with ym mounted system all of a sudden. is anyone free to help?
[06:21] <flac> stefg: yes it's ok ... I tried OSS and esound too .. same result
[06:21] <newbie001> Ok, I have set mplayer with some custom parameters as the application that opens avi files...
[06:21] <Enverex> How do you get network manager to NOT connect to a Wireless point or to detatch from one if it's already connected? It only seems to want to let me disable roaming mode if I specify an access point :(
[06:21] <soundray> Flatline: describe the problem and hope for the best.
[06:21] <Flatline> for months now, my windows partition has been loading with read/write access fine as /media/sda1
[06:21] <newbie001> I want to change some parameters now.
[06:21] <Crane_> dinochopins: your DNS servers should be listed in /etc/resolv.conf  if you are connected to a netwwork
[06:22] <Flatline> but now, i turn on my pc, and its mounted and shows as /media/sda1 but theres nothing in it...
[06:22] <dedi> are there common problems with x window system hanging up when shutting down or starting without "single" command?
[06:22] <dinochopins> Crane_, hm... seems like it is the problem. Wait, I have broadcast address that is different from my IP's network
[06:22] <daemonize> is there a pyuic for qt4?
[06:22] <omnius> Enverex: I use Wicd instead of network manager, look it up in the forums
[06:22] <stefg> Flatline: check dmesg for file system panic messages
[06:22] <MetaBookfoziS> Is there anybody who knows the solution for the broken powernowd thingy in feisty
[06:22] <Flatline> stefg, how would i do that?
[06:22] <MetaBookfoziS> ?
[06:22] <newbie001> soundray:  Ok, I have set mplayer with some custom parameters as the application that opens avi files...
[06:22] <Enverex> MetaBookfoziS, Are you on a Core2Duo?
[06:22] <Crane_> your broadcast should be 192.168.1.255
[06:23] <newbie001> soundray:  I want to change some parameters now.
[06:23] <MetaBookfoziS> No, i'm on Mobile Amd athlon xp
[06:23] <stefg> Flatline: dmesg | grep panic
[06:23] <Crane_> dinochopins: or xxx.xxx.xxx.255 rather
[06:23] <MetaBookfoziS> but it says cpu freequency scaling not supported
[06:23] <Crane_> dinochopins: 202.57.4.255
[06:23] <Grummus> Crane_, that may not be correct
[06:24] <Enverex> MetaBookfoziS, Is it new? It may be like my C2D and it's just not supported yet
[06:24] <soundray> newbie001: so you go to the Open With tab as described and select "Custom command".
[06:24] <Flatline> stefg, nothing is output :-
[06:24] <Flatline> lonewolf@lonewolf-kubuntu:~$ dmesg | grep panic
[06:24] <Flatline> lonewolf@lonewolf-kubuntu:~$ dmesg | grep panic
[06:24] <Flatline> lonewolf@lonewolf-kubuntu:~$
[06:24] <daemonize> where can I find pyqt-tools for qt4?
[06:24] <Crane_> Grummus: oh my bad
[06:24] <aubade> E6320 working fine here, more a matter of the mainboard is supported.
[06:24] <compengi> how do i change the language interface of my whole system?
[06:24] <dedi> anyone got ati drivers work on feisty x64? googled all sites didnt work
[06:24] <aubade> of=if*
[06:24] <Grummus> dinochopins, do you have a /24 network on your "live" ip?
[06:24] <dinochopins> Crane_, yes
[06:24] <MetaBookfoziS> no, it's very old (2.5 year) and it's worked well without anything before (in breezy,dapper,edgy feisty)
[06:24] <HellioN> Whoot.
[06:25] <dinochopins> Grummus, yes
[06:25] <stefg> Flatline: please does 'mount' say it's mounted rw ?
[06:25] <MetaBookfoziS> so something changed
[06:25] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: could you possibly help me with getting my network correctly setup? I'm 94% into a fresh install.
[06:25] <khin> hi i have a question, i just bought a new laptop. how do i know whether it is a 64 bit system or not. is it just, if its dual core then its a 64 bit system?
[06:25] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: if your too busy that's understandable
[06:25] <Flatline> no it doesnt. i cant see it in the list
[06:25] <dinochopins> Crane_, i think I have problem here => iface eth0 inet static and iface eth0:1 inet static
[06:25] <Flatline> stefg, no it doesnt. I cant see it in the list
[06:25] <Grummus> dinochopins, then Crane_ was right, but since CIDR you can't rely on /24 that often anymore
[06:25] <dinochopins> Crane_, 2 adressess ? How come it doesn't show up in Gnome networking tool ?
[06:26] <craigbass1976> I want to capture, via usb, streaming video from my camcorder.  Anyone done this?
[06:26] <stefg> Flatline: so apparently it's not mounted
[06:26] <craigbass1976> I've got a web cam working, but the picture sucks
[06:26] <soundray> khin: no. Early dual-cores were 32bit only. If it's a Core 2 Duo or any AMD dual core, it will run amd64.
[06:26] <dinochopins> Grummus, CIDR ?
[06:26] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: I can. but I am about to leave my desk for a couple hours.
[06:26] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: I will be glad to help when I return though
[06:27] <Grummus> dinochopins, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing
[06:27] <khin> and how do i get the specs on the system in ubuntu
[06:27] <dinochopins> Grummus, what is CIDR ?
[06:27] <dinochopins> Grummus, ah... ok. will take a look at that
[06:27] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: I actually think I'll wait. Hit me up when you get back, if you can remember and if I'm on :-p
[06:27] <newbie001> soundray: that allows me to add a new command, but I want to edit an existing command.
[06:28] <omnius> khin: System>Harware Information
[06:28] <dyrne> khin: you can look at things in /proc like 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and /proc/meminfo
[06:28] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: Cool I will be glad to be sure to look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html for some good reading
[06:28] <Crane_> Be back in a bit
[06:28] <neverblue> can I (via cli) change a screen's (ihave duals) res and depth manually?
[06:29] <Flatline> stefg, so why would that explain the directory being there? im using the auto ntfs-mounter installed via automatix 2.
[06:29] <soundray> newbie001: so add the correct command and remove the old one afterwards.
[06:29] <stefg> !automatix | Flatline
[06:29] <ubotu> Flatline: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:29] <Bogaurd> I use a little script to train my spamassassin... I got it off the net ages ago, can someone help me decode what a line of it does?
[06:30] <mobutu> 10 people are goign to type !automatix | Flatline now
[06:30] <Flatline> stefg, I'll brb, If you're still here when i get back ill discuss it with you then.
[06:30] <ironfroggy> maybe this is the wrong place
[06:30] <ironfroggy> but whats wrong with the openclipart.org website?
[06:30] <newbie001> soundray: yes, the problem is I don't remember the old parameters, I want to keep them. I was looking for a way to at least read what the old command was. I only know it is mplayer, but I don't know the parameters
[06:31] <DVS01> my systray stopped working properly. programs that show up in it no longer do (such as skype), and wine's systray ends up being its own window. also, the network manager disappeared from the systray. why would this happen and how can i fix it?  this is in gnome, using ubuntu feisty
[06:32] <soundray> newbie001: perhaps you'll find it if you search with this command in terminal (cd ~ first if you aren't already there): 'for i in .g* ; do grep -r $i mplayer ; done'
[06:32] <stefg> DVS01: try ##gnome?
[06:32] <DVS01> will do, thanks
[06:32] <soundray> Bogaurd: nobody knows if they can help you before you quote the line
[06:33] <Bogaurd> :)
[06:33] <lethu> DVS01, that can happen if you removed directly or indirectly the panel utilities
[06:33] <soundray> newbie001: sorry, got it the wrong way round
[06:33] <Bogaurd> the line is 'set -- "$source"/*' and also 'if [ -f "$1" ] '
[06:33] <heroin> ok i have a 40GB harddisk iam partitioning it as such: #1 PRIMARY 30GB BOOTFLAG F EXT3 / >> #5 logical 1.0GB f swap swap >> #6 logical 10.0GB f fat
[06:34] <lethu> DVS01, right click on the panel then --> Add to panel
[06:34] <heroin> will this work?
[06:34] <soundray> newbie001: for i in .g* ; do grep -r mplayer $i ; done
[06:34] <neverblue> can I (via cli) change a screen's (ihave duals) res and depth manually?
[06:34] <soundray> Bogaurd: is it a shell script?
[06:34] <Bogaurd> soundray: yeah.
[06:35] <Bogaurd> i guess $1 is the first arg
[06:35] <khin> so, even though my proc is intel core 2, when it matters i run the amd64 versions of everything?
[06:35] <Bogaurd> but i'm not sure
[06:35] <newbie001> soundray: that's a good one. I tried it but didn't work
[06:35] <lethu> DVS01, I guess what you are missing is the Notification Area under the utilities Section etc..
[06:35] <DVS01> yes
[06:35] <DVS01> just found that out
[06:35] <DVS01> thanks lethu
[06:35] <lethu> DVS01, yw
[06:35] <tokj> hi all
[06:35] <Paradoxx> How do I extract the contents of a zip file at the command line?
[06:36] <mjr> unzip foo.zip
[06:36] <Paradoxx> mjr: thx
[06:37] <newbie001> soundray: found something now... seraching everything
[06:37] <leonel> is there  any  openJDK  ubuntu TEAM ?
[06:38] <khin> this is correct, if i have intel core 2 i should run amd64 versions of stuff?
[06:38] <soundray> Bogaurd: I've never got the hang of set. Here's the documentation: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#SEC58
[06:39] <Bogaurd> thanks :)
[06:39] <DVS01> lethu: why do some icons go into the panel, and some are in the notification area?
[06:39] <DVS01> what is the effective difference between the two?
[06:39] <newbie001> soundray: thank you!
[06:40] <soundray> Bogaurd: if [ -f "$1" ]  means "if the first parameter passed to the script is the name of an existing file"
[06:40] <newbie001> soundray: good bye!
[06:40] <drivera90> Hi. I broke my X Server.
[06:40] <drivera90> Help.
[06:40] <shane634> drivera90, how did you break it?
[06:40] <Bogaurd> soundray: great, thanks :D
[06:40] <neverblue> drivera90, did you backup?
[06:41] <drivera90> shane634, I can't switch between windows, use the "Show desktop" button on my bar thingie, and the maximize/minimize/close buttons (and their bar) are gone.
[06:41] <drivera90> I also can't move windows around.
[06:41] <dyrne> drivera90: alt-ctrl-f2 then login then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choos vesa a driver and the rest just go with defaults then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  <--generic answer
[06:41] <soundray> Bogaurd: man test to find about -f and friends (options to [ )
[06:41] <xvmde> hi
[06:41] <Bogaurd> thanks :)
[06:41] <xvmde> i've a vlan problem
[06:41] <neverblue> wow dyrne thats a complex response
[06:42] <neverblue> drivera90, are you trying to setup compiz/beryl?
[06:42] <shane634> that is what needs to be done none the less
[06:42] <xvmde> hi, i've a VLAN problem
[06:42] <xvmde> can you help me ?
[06:42] <soundray> drivera90: your X is probably fine. Your metacity window manager has crashed.
[06:42] <xvmde> the summary of my problem is here
[06:42] <xvmde> http://www.mail-archive.com/lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl/msg16852.html
[06:42] <shane634> xvmde, what is VLAN?
[06:43] <neverblue> can I (via cli) change a screen's (ihave duals) res and depth manually? my second monitor is falling to a res not specified in my xorg.conf
[06:43] <Bogaurd> ok soundray, do you think the set command would just be setting the $1 paramater assuming no parameters are specified when the script is called?
[06:43] <xvmde> shane634, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7268
[06:44] <shane634> xvmde, yes i just looked sorry i can't help with that
[06:44] <sdf_> how can i copy any file at location 1 and paste it in location 2 with terminal?
[06:44] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to setup a TFTP server on Feisty, as part of a PXE server, and all the clients get a PXE error 32 error opening TFTP or something similar, does anyone know how I can make sure TFTP is running?
[06:44] <SpArtAko> espaol
[06:45] <SpArtAko> spanish
[06:45] <neverblue> !es | SpArtAko
[06:45] <ubotu> SpArtAko: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:45] <SpArtAko> thanks
[06:45] <neverblue> np
[06:45] <Flatline> what is the correct syntax to mount a harddrive?
[06:45] <soundray> Bogaurd: it's possible...
[06:46] <drivera90> Alright. That alt+ctrl+f2 thing wasn't cool.
[06:46] <Xyhthyx> sdf_: cp -v <file> <location-path>
[06:46] <sdf_> thanx
[06:46] <soundray> Bogaurd: yes, I think you're right. '--' just prevents $source from being interpreted as options, should it begin with a dash.
[06:46] <neverblue> drivera90, you missed alot since you were gone
[06:46] <shane634> drivera90, it never is lol
[06:46] <neverblue> you might want to scroll back up
[06:46] <ian13> my microphone won't work with ubuntu (speakers do) - could someone help me troubleshoot?
[06:46] <Bogaurd> ah
[06:46] <Bogaurd> excellent
[06:47] <Bogaurd> thanks for the help soundray
[06:47] <Bogaurd> :)
[06:47] <Xyhthyx> sdf_: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[06:47] <anton1> I just activated ATI  accelerated graphics driver from restricted drivers, now Desktop Effects stops working with message: The Composite extension is not available.. what can I do to solve this? thanks..
[06:47] <neverblue> ian13, did you turn the mic up?
[06:47] <drivera90> I don't know if I caught it. I pressed alt+ctrl+f2 and it all went black and I didn't see shit.
[06:47] <soundray> Bogaurd: I've learnt something new in the process, so thank you back ;)
[06:47] <drivera90> Unpleasant.
[06:47] <Bogaurd> hehe
[06:47] <sdf_> xyhthyx thank you very much
[06:47] <ian13> neverblue: clicking on the speaker icon on the panel - yes it is turned up and on on both of the card options (i only have one card though)
[06:47] <soundray> !language | drivera90
[06:47] <ubotu> drivera90: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:47] <Xyhthyx> drivera90: Ctrl+Alt+F7 returns you to your window manager.
[06:47] <neverblue> anton1, ubuntu guide (google it) will show you how to setup your drivers/effects
[06:47] <Bogaurd> soundray: now to work out how to modify this script so it'll take another argument and not die on me ;)
[06:48] <goban> have they considered changing the default theme from the ugly brown?
[06:48] <drivera90> Oh, that's nifty, Xyhthyx.
[06:48] <neverblue> ian13, what app are you "checking" it with?
[06:48] <Grummus> anton1, the ati driver does not support composite extension completly, you have to use xgl with ati card for desktop effects
[06:48] <anton1> neverblue: thanks
[06:48] <neverblue> anton1, np
[06:48] <ian13> neverblue: tried the sound recorder and skype
[06:48] <neverblue> ian13, ok, what device is your mic, plugged in? or your webcam?
[06:48] <soundray> Bogaurd: sorry, I'll have to leave you alone with this. The guys in #bash are helpful.
[06:49] <soundray> Bogaurd: good luck
[06:49] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to setup a TFTP server on Feisty, as part of a PXE server, and all the clients get a PXE error 32 error opening TFTP or something similar, does anyone know how I can make sure TFTP is running?
[06:49] <anton1> grummus: can I install xgl from synaptic ?
[06:49] <Bogaurd> soundray: no probs, thanks for your help! i'm sure i'll be able to get it working :)
[06:49] <Ronald|Laptop> I have a sasl problem related to postfix smtp auth. Log and configfile http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22006/
[06:49] <ian13> neverblue: my mic is just a headset, plugged into the front panel mic slot. the headphone slot works fine though.
[06:49] <Grummus> anton1, don't know, luckily i never had to :)
[06:50] <neverblue> ian13, maybe you need to plug that "mic input" in the front fo your case into the motherboar
[06:50] <neverblue> motherboard*
[06:50] <neverblue> it might not be setup yet...
[06:50] <anton1> grummus: <grin> at least I know what to google now .. xgl here I come.. thanks bro.. :)
[06:50] <neverblue> anton1, use the ubuntu guide
[06:50] <ian13> neverblue: sorry? i can confirm it has always worked fine from windows - or do you want me to try plugging it directly into the back?
[06:50] <neverblue> it will tell you how to do it all
[06:51] <anton1> neverblue: I'm opening it... me and my poor connection :)
[06:51] <ian13> neverblue: what will tell me?
[06:51] <aeiko_> Would this be the best channel to get help with setting up my modem?
[06:51] <neverblue> ian13, it worked in windows, and its setup the same way (physically) ?
[06:51] <ian13> neverblue: yes - same physical setup.
[06:51] <neverblue> aeiko_, if your using ubuntu :)
[06:51] <aeiko_> neverblue: And indeed I am.
[06:52] <neverblue> ian13, ok, so you may want to just try your back mic input, just to elimiate that the front my be broken
[06:52] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to setup a TFTP server on Feisty, as part of a PXE server, and all the clients get a PXE error 32 error opening TFTP or something similar, does anyone know how I can make sure TFTP is running?
[06:52] <neverblue> can I (via cli) change a screen's (ihave duals) res and depth manually? my second monitor is falling to a res not specified in my xorg.conf
[06:52] <ian13> neverblue: will do
[06:52] <JDahl> does the Gnome launcher add any working directories or other options to Openoffice Spreadsheet? The launch command is just " ooffice -calc %U" - what does %U do?  I am asking because oocalc crashes on python scripts when started from the command line,  but it works fine when I start oocalc from the menus
[06:53] <aeiko_> I'm having trouble with my modem. It's integrated in the hardware of my laptop.
[06:53] <neverblue> bobbob1016, it will use a port, you could portscan that system
[06:54] <aeiko_> For some reason it's not detecting my modem :(
[06:55] <Paradoxx> Is there a command to find out where a program is installed?
[06:55] <ian13> neverblue: sound recorder refuses to play, nor will it save (invalid parameters) - skype picked up no sound as before
[06:55] <JDahl> Paradoxx, which <program>
[06:55] <Paradoxx> JDahl: thx
[06:56] <neverblue> ian13, have you rebooted recently?
[06:56] <Grummus> neverblue, modern X server can change the resolution via software request without a complete restart, but i think they still can't change bit depth
[06:56] <LjL> Paradoxx: dpkg -L packagename, if you know the package but not the filename
[06:56] <JDahl> paradon, or possible dpkg -L <debian package>
[06:56] <J03L> hi everyone.
[06:56] <Flatline> do i need a wiblow$ disk to install it on vmware? or is there a pre-made image i can use?
[06:56] <aeiko_> Can anyone help me with a modem issue?
[06:56] <ian13> neverblue: yes, well, in the last 30mins
[06:56] <neverblue> Grummus, then how could I possibly change the res?
[06:56] <J03L> I want to know how can i set permissions in the windows partition, so i can create files while i'm on linux
[06:56] <ian13> neverblue: sound control seems to think i have two devices: Intel ICH5 (ALSA) and Realtek ALC650F (OSS)
[06:57] <neverblue> ian13, ok, so you should try and maybe use Skype, its good for recording, test using different devices
[06:57] <stefg> Flatline: you need a license, and a valid serial number and a CD
[06:57] <neverblue> use the ALSA
[06:57] <dr_willis> Flatline,  a premade vmware image of windows95/xp would not be 'legal' :)  not to say that they dont exist.
[06:57] <fr3ak> How do I fix my monitor my image is shaking
[06:57] <neverblue> fr3ak, hit it
[06:57] <h4wk0> Anyone ever used hamachi to connect to vnc?
[06:57] <J03L> I need to know how can i set permissions in the windows partition, so i can create files while i'm on linux
[06:57] <h4wk0> Or is there a tutorial somewhere
[06:57] <Flatline> dr_willis, thanks ;) care to um... explain where *hypothetically* of course..... where i might obtain ?
[06:57] <dedi> can i prevent that linux mount /dev/sda while booting?
[06:57] <ian13> neverblue: um, well, i tried all the options i had, but none worked. i have a realtek chipset, but there was no realtek or oss option there
[06:57] <fr3ak> neverblue, ok smart one i meen xorg.conf configuration...
[06:58] <angenoir> Hi
[06:58] <neverblue> fr3ak, use the ubuntu guide and follow your setup of the correct drivers
[06:58] <Grummus> neverblue, you could always cycle through the supported resolutions with alt-ctrl-+ and alt-ctrl--, if you want to change res via software google "XRandR"
[06:58] <lebecca> g
[06:58] <neverblue> google it
[06:58] <erstazi> when in Terminal Server Client, how do you switch to your desktop when you are full screen?
[06:58] <neverblue> yeah, XRandR gives me a seg fault
[06:58] <neverblue> i guess its a bug
[06:58] <LMJ> Hello the chan
[06:58] <J03L> I need to know how can i set permissions in the windows partition, so i can create files while i'm on linux
[06:58] <fr3ak> neverblue, sounds better
[06:58] <dr_willis> erstazi,  hmm i though that was the f11 key. or somthing with F11
[06:58] <fr3ak> ..
[06:59] <neverblue> hello the LMJ
[06:59] <dr_willis> J03L,  you set the umask and permissions when mounting a windows partition.
[06:59] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[06:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:59] <ian13> neverblue: so i thought it might be missing, but i dunno
[06:59] <erstazi> dr_willis, will try, thanks much
[06:59] <dr_willis> !windows
[06:59] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:59] <J03L> I'm sorry... how do i do that?
[06:59] <bobbob1016> neverblue, sorry, I was distracted, how do I do a portscan?
[06:59] <dr_willis> hmm what is that factoid.
[06:59] <dr_willis> J03L,  you using feisty?
[06:59] <J03L> Ubuntu
[06:59] <neverblue> ian13, the OSS is the sound you will want to fall back on, if nothing else works
[06:59] <dr_willis> J03L,  and what VERSION of ubuntu....
[06:59] <neverblue> but you should use ALSA
[06:59] <jarlath> Can anyone reccomend a wireless PCI card that works out of the box?
[06:59] <J03L> 6.06
[06:59] <LMJ> Samba 3.0.24 (smbd exactly) segfault/code dump/crash when i launch it ? Got a fresh Feisty x86_64 install, is that a famous bug ? is there a salution ?
[07:00] <neverblue> bobbob1016, in the Network Tools
[07:00] <neverblue> Grummus, any other ideas?
[07:00] <dr_willis> J03L,  you proberly need to manually edit the fstab file to allow the proper umask=option i think its umask=0000
[07:00] <ian13> neverblue: okay. skype doesn't seem to even offer that
[07:00] <J03L> I'm a total newbie in this... can u orient me a little please.
[07:00] <neverblue> ian13, what devices do you have in Skype?
[07:01] <J03L> where do i find this fstab ?
[07:01] <gcbdm> Any way I can install Ubuntu via Knoppix?
[07:01] <Grummus> neverblue, no sry, XRandR should work with recent X servers
[07:01] <neverblue> J03L, might be a good read for you --> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[07:01] <robokop>  J03L /etc/fstab
[07:01] <neverblue> Grummus, well, thanks anyways
[07:01] <J03L> ok
[07:01] <dr_willis> J03L,  the ubuntu wiki/forums and otehr sites detail what needs to be done in great detail.
[07:01] <UberPsyX> hi, bit of a newbie, how do i install programs that are .tar.gz?
[07:01] <ian13> ALSA (Intel ICH5 and USB Camera (i do have a webcam with a mic - but that doesn't seem to work either)) and OSS (/dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1)
[07:02] <J03L> thanks
[07:02] <dr_willis> UberDuper,  you mean from  'source' ?
[07:02] <ian13> neverblue: *ALSA (Intel ICH5 and USB Camera (i do have a webcam with a mic - but that doesn't seem to work either)) and OSS (/dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1)
[07:02] <dr_willis> UberDuper,  what program? instructions can vary.
[07:02] <robokop> UberPsyX: tar -xvf <tar file>
[07:02] <neverblue> use ALSA
[07:02] <fr3ak> neverblue, how to set my monitor frequency manually?
[07:02] <robokop> and then see the README
[07:02] <neverblue> you need to setup your webcam properly
[07:02] <abd> heyo all
[07:02] <UberPsyX> robokop ok thanks a lot
[07:02] <neverblue> have fun with google :)
[07:03] <haptiK> !kbuntu
[07:03] <neverblue> fr3ak, are you asking me?
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <ian13> neverblue: on another note, my computer busser wont work either when i send messages to /dev/speaker
[07:03] <haptiK> !kubuntu
[07:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[07:03] <fr3ak> neverblue,  i am i just saw my monitor configuration and i want to set hz configuration manually
[07:03] <neverblue> ian13, its probably not related...
[07:03] <neverblue> fr3ak, in xorg.conf
[07:04] <robokop> is there a way to restart x without losing all my open apps
[07:04] <Flatline> robokop, not taht i know of ;)
[07:05] <robokop> Flatline: tbh i know there is but dunno how :S
[07:05] <neverblue> robokop, nope
[07:05] <gcbdm> Any way I can install Ubuntu via Knoppix?
[07:05] <dr_willis> gcbdm,  not very esially
[07:05] <ian13> neverblue: i tried both of the ALSA again, but they didn't work
[07:05] <bobbob1016> neverblue, I scanned, from the computer I want to be the server (only ubuntu machine I have easily available) and it doesn't have tftp there, that means it isn't running, right?
[07:05] <Flatline> can i just say.... AMAROK RAPES.
[07:05] <neverblue> ian13, like I said, use ALSA, setup your webcam properly
[07:06] <nouri> Is it just me or is automounting usb devices broken in feisty?
[07:06] <diablos_raven> i need to find out why i cant change objects in a panel
[07:06] <neverblue> bobbob1016,  i dont know much about tftp, but I am sure it will be using a port to run its service
[07:06] <flac> Hi there
[07:06] <ian13> neverblue: well - speaking at my webcam doesn't seem to work either
[07:06] <abd> I'm playing mpeg on gxine properly , when I installed mplayer I get error to intialize video :O .. so anyone help me to play  .avi videos ?????
[07:06] <flac> i'm back with a new problem :)
[07:06] <neverblue> you should start by finding out what port it does use
[07:06] <flac> when I try to run a ound I get this message : ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[07:06] <neverblue> ian13, thats why I said, you need to set it up properly
[07:07] <Lunar_Lamp> Where can I get a copy of the default .bashrc file in ubuntu? I don't want to create a new user, but messed mine up.
[07:07] <dr_willis> Lunar_Lamp,  /etc/skel perhaps
[07:07] <neverblue> can I (via cli) change a screen's (ihave duals) res and depth manually? my second monitor is falling to a res not specified in my xorg.conf
[07:07] <Lunar_Lamp> dr_willis, ofc! :-)
[07:07] <ian13> neverblue: set up what exactly? i don't know where any other settings would be
[07:07] <jburd> I have a problem with Ubuntu Feisty fawn freshly installed on a pentium 4 system.  I see the startup splash screen and for a split second the busy mouse pointer, but after that there is no display.  Any help is appreciated.  :-)
[07:08] <neverblue> ian13, does the webcam work?
[07:08] <neverblue> video...
[07:08] <jburd> It should alos be noted that display was visible earlier.
[07:08] <ian13> neverblue: i dont believe so
[07:08] <flac> jburd: which video card ? no errors ? does it return to console or just crash ?
[07:08] <neverblue> ian13, then setup that and you should probably have a working mic
[07:08] <jburd> it doesn't crash. it shows me a blank screen.
[07:08] <bobbob1016> can anyone help me with a TFTP problem I'm having on Feisty?
[07:08] <jburd> the video card is an intel 845GV built in.
[07:08] <neverblue> as for not setting it up, you will probably be using OSS
[07:08] <StarkD> Hi! Trying to install feisty but it crashes at step 5 of 7. Is it possible to use the text-based GNU/Linux installer instead? Or any other ideas?
[07:08] <jburd> no errors
[07:09] <ian13> neverblue: it is an unbranded camera for which i only have a windows driver. i personally see using my microphone socket as more suited
[07:09] <dr_willis> StarkD,  the live cd cant do a text based install. use the alternative cd for that.
[07:09] <jburd> i should tell you i enabled "accessible login" in gdm-setup before this happened.
[07:09] <drif> does kde support something similiar to fluxbox ExecCommand?
[07:09] <jburd> and a different greeter that presents a user list.
[07:10] <jburd> flac: What could be the problem?
[07:10] <savetheWorld> Hi all - I'm adding a user account that runs a special program for the user instead of a shell.  My problem is I can't seem to set the account password to be blank.  Can anyone point me to a clue? (PS - this is normally easy to do in most *NIX/Linuxen)
[07:10] <neverblue> ian13, then you need to test settings with your OSS
[07:10] <flac> jburd: I really don't know ...
[07:10] <ian13> neverblue: i have tried both OSS also in skype, and neither worked
[07:10] <neverblue> you can change settings in the app (Skype) and in the sound manager (speaker icon on the panel)
[07:10] <StarkD> dr_willis: OK too bad. I'm on a slow connection here. If I partition manually how big should the swap be and which filesystem?
[07:10] <savetheWorld> !password
[07:10] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[07:10] <neverblue> also lsusb and lspci might help alot
[07:11] <OlliK> Is there any howto/gui how can I make my Kubuntu into Ubuntu (how to install / setup gnome?)
[07:11] <neverblue> commands to find your installed devices
[07:11] <flac> jburd: try to look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:11] <jburd> all right.
[07:11] <jburd> just a second.
[07:11] <ian13> neverblue: where do i enter these commands? terminal?
[07:11] <dr_willis> StarkD,  i always use 512mb swap - it alld epends on the system
[07:11] <neverblue> yes
[07:11] <StarkD> dr_willis: which filesystem? not ext3 is it?
[07:11] <neverblue> the rest is upto you
[07:11] <mon^rch> what's the command to become root again please?
[07:11] <neverblue> sudo su
[07:11] <dappis> StarkD, put your swap to roughly the same size as your RAM (256-1024MB usually)
[07:12] <OlliK> A question: In ubuntu (gnome), is it possible to set the background color of menus separatedly? In KDE it is not (if you change menu background color, you'll change something like button colors etc at same time, which is annoying, that's why I want to switch to ubuntu)
[07:12] <dr_willis> StarkD,  the swap parttion dosent use ext3 its 'swap' filesystem i guess. ya can say
[07:12] <peepsalot> i know about ls -a, but how can i ls _only_ hidden files?
[07:12] <mon^rch> ty
[07:12] <ian13> neverblue: would you like a paste of the data?
[07:12] <jburd> flac: nothing suspicious.
[07:12] <neverblue> ian13, no, as i said, the rest is upto you
[07:12] <StarkD> dr_willis, dappis: thank you! will try to do it manually
[07:12] <Desmaano> guyss, what causes my cycle redudancy check (CRC) error ?? Im trying to move a file to a home file server :\\
[07:12] <neverblue> i have my own issues to work on
[07:12] <flac> jburd: really strange ... I don't know what could have happen
[07:12] <ian13> neverblue: well, i don't know how this data in any way assists me
[07:13] <dappis> StarkD: it uses filesystem "swap". partitioning isn't too hard
[07:13] <SlimeyPete> Desmaano: hard disk failure or filesystem corruption
[07:13] <jburd> can i somehow end the gdm process and restart it in safe mode or something?
[07:13] <OlliK> If someone replies to me, please put my nick in front so I can see that the message is for me, here comes so many messages that I won't see your reply otherwise
[07:13] <jburd> because i don't think X is the problem.
[07:13] <Desmaano> SlimeyPete: filesystem corruption?
[07:13] <OlliK> Or send me a PM
[07:13] <jburd> the display goes blank after an initial flicker of the mouse pointer.
[07:13] <flac> jburd: you can start in safemode ( = single-user mode) directly in console
[07:13] <SlimeyPete> Desmaano: yeah. More likely to be a hard disk error though, in my experience.
[07:13] <savetheWorld> Does anyone know how to set up a user account with no password?
[07:13] <flac> if you have Grub installes
[07:13] <flac> -s+d
[07:14] <Desmaano> SlimeyPete: can't be, 2 brand new hdd's in raid1 array :\
[07:14] <dr_willis> savetheWorld,  edit the passwd file manually. (ick!) :) the user tool might have that option also.
[07:14] <Desmaano> and only a few files causes errors
[07:14] <SlimeyPete> Desmaano: just because they're new doesn't mean one of them isn't broken ;)
[07:14] <ian13> anyone else got any ideas on troubleshooting my microphone?
[07:14] <savetheWorld> dr_willis: willis that. no go
[07:14] <SlimeyPete> Desmaano: maybe it's something to with your RAID... that's not entirely implausible but I don't know much about RAID myself
[07:14] <savetheWorld> err *tried that.
[07:14] <flac> ian13: what's your pb ?
[07:15] <ian13> flac: pb?
[07:15] <Desmaano> but how is it possible only a few files causes errors?, the first 130 GiB i uploaded went perfect
[07:15] <flac> problem
[07:15] <jburd> i will try starting in single user mode
[07:15] <jburd> brb
[07:15] <jburd> thanks flac
[07:15] <ian13> flac: basically my microphone doesn't work. my headphones and speakers do.
[07:15] <SlimeyPete> Desmaano: my own fileserver currently has a failing hard disk and I get CRC errors, but not on all files. It seems to depend upon which part of the disk it's accessing
[07:15] <flac> Is your microphone sound  on ?
[07:15] <ian13> flac: and i am not too sure how to get them working
[07:16] <ian13> flac: yes
[07:16] <flac> I had this problem sometimes
[07:16] <Desmaano> If i add files now, they all work, just a few iso and rar files causing errors
[07:16] <flac> ian13: Your microphone sound is on in alsamixer
[07:16] <ian13> flac sound controler thinks i have two sound devices, an ibm and a realteck
[07:16] <SlimeyPete> Desmaano: I'd suggest running fsck on the filesystem that's producing the errors, at least. Then see where you can go from there.
[07:16] <flac> ian13: but have you looked in the graphical interface ?
[07:16] <Desmaano> SlimeyPete: fsck doesnt return any errors
[07:17] <flac> ian13: I had this problem, the graphical inteface interferred ...
[07:17] <neverblue> i have just setup my system to run duals, I am having an issue with changing the res on the second screen (SiS 300 + ATI Rage), I edited my xorg.conf to only have "higher" res, but its falling on 800x600, anything I can do to change it?
[07:17] <ian13> flac: in alsa the sound ))) icon shows and the mic bar is up to top
[07:17] <SlimeyPete> Desmaano: ah right. Dunno then, but it's definitely a disk/fs-related issue.
[07:17] <ian13> flac: i have only checked in the GUI
[07:17] <ian13> flac: is there (another!) interface for sound?
[07:17] <skymera> hi
[07:18] <gcbdm> Any way I can install Ubuntu via Knoppix?
[07:18] <flac> ian13: alsamixer in consoe
[07:18] <flac> ian13: console
[07:18] <Desmaano> aarghh, this error is slowing me down for few weeks allready :\
[07:18] <skymera> can someone help? when i booted it done a disk scan and 0.6% of my files died!? what is that????
[07:18] <Grisha> hello, can someone tell me the name of the dock bar which is an imitation of the one in MacOS X?
[07:19] <Desmaano> !crc
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <ian13> flac: there it shows Intel ICH5, Realtek ALC650F, [Playback]  Capture All, Mic [dB gain=12.00] 
[07:19] <shane634> Grisha, kiba dock
[07:19] <Desmaano> Anybody have experience with crc errors?
[07:19] <Grisha> shane634, thanks
[07:19] <skymera> can someone help? when i booted it done a disk scan and 0.6% of my files died!? what is that????
[07:19] <flac> ian13: it seems OK ...
[07:19] <ian13> flac: there is also a micboost and micselect
[07:20] <flac> ian13: micboost should be on, but not on top
[07:20] <Grisha> skelter, how did you shutdown last time?
[07:20] <SlimeyPete> skymera: what do you mean "died"
[07:20] <SlimeyPete> ?
[07:20] <ian13> flac: micboost looks off
[07:20] <ian13> flac: no idea how to change that
[07:21] <skymera> slimey - it does the boot screen and scans my disk, it fails and says some of my files died. im guessing there system onesd as my progs dont work
[07:21] <Grisha> skymera, how did you shutdown last time?
[07:21] <skymera> i am puzzled
[07:22] <neverblue> i have just setup my system to run duals, I am having an issue with changing the res on the second screen (SiS 300 + ATI Rage), I edited my xorg.conf to only have "higher" res, but its falling on 800x600, anything I can do to change it?
[07:22] <SlimeyPete> skymera: boot a live cd (e.g. the ubuntu one) and see if you can access the partition from there
[07:22] <skymera> i had to abort.
[07:22] <skymera> my ubuntu disk is corrupt. i downloading again
[07:22] <flac> ian13: I'll find it ... have you a sound icon on left top of your screen ?
[07:22] <meeeeeee> Question - is there a way to probe my onboard graphics to see its max res? I know my screen can go to 1600x1200
[07:22] <lagrimo_> my somone help, please?
[07:22] <ian13> flac: yes
[07:23] <flac> ian13: (right top...)
[07:23] <flac> try ti get in there
[07:23] <skymera> should i reinstall ubuntu?
[07:23] <Grisha> it seems that you problem is because of Improper shutdown...
[07:23] <flac> ian13: double click and there you can configure reconrding stuff I think
[07:23] <flac> ian13: try changing things in there
[07:23] <SlimeyPete> meeeeeee: how much memory is allocated to your onboard graphics? if it's got 32MB or more then it almost certainly does 1600x1200.
[07:23] <meeeeeee> additional - max res or available resolutions?
[07:24] <ian13> flac: i still cant seem to get to mic boosyt
[07:24] <Grisha> skymera, i think you there is no other way to fix it
[07:24] <skymera> so reinstall yeah?
[07:24] <ian13> flac: i got a switches and options dialog though
[07:24] <Grisha> yes
[07:24] <ian13> flac - oh enabled boost
[07:24] <skymera> ok. well tis easy to do! thanks for clearing that up for me!
[07:25] <meeeeeee> Thanks SlimeyPete I have no idea, I have just installed on a machine that was being thrown out, so I installed Ubuntu, and I am just trying to get the best out
[07:25] <skymera> leaving
[07:25] <meeeeeee> so far I am on 1200x764
[07:25] <flac> ian13: does it work now ?
[07:25] <ahmed> guys  how to remove the wine folder completly
[07:25] <ian13> flac: still fiddling and checking
[07:25] <Desmaano> Question: Is there someone who can help me solve my CRC errors ???
[07:26] <jarlath> ahmed, I think you just have to delete the .wine folder in you home folder
[07:26] <jarlath> Then remove any menu entries.
[07:26] <Grisha> ahmed, rm -rf ~/.wine
[07:26] <meeeeeee> Is there a link to graphics query commands forterminal?
[07:27] <meeeeeee> !graphics
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <ian13> flac: skype still doesnt pic up anything. sound recorder still refuses to play or save (invalid parameter)
[07:27] <lemare> Why is Ubuntu just so damn cool?
[07:28] <hylje> lemare: because it does what it says it does
[07:28] <lemare> ^^
[07:28] <flac> ian13: cr*p
[07:28] <Fri13> lemare: because ubuntu takes simple pieces and puts them together (Gnome + good Gnome apps)....
[07:29] <Fri13> and Debian as "core" ofcource
[07:29] <jarras> hi everbody
[07:29] <ian13> flac (ive no idea whats wrong with sound recorder)
[07:29] <jarras> An noob question: is ubuntu better which gentoo or slackware?
[07:29] <jarras> :P
[07:29] <Ubuntu> Oh my! Please don't pretend Ubuntu is better than Vista!
[07:29] <m0se5> How do I disable the keyboard shortcut "ctrl+alt+F6" on Ubuntu? Ubuntu replaced init with upstart event daemon.
[07:29] <Grisha> jarras, it's easier
[07:29] <Ubuntu> Keyboard remap
[07:30] <jarras> I don't know :\
[07:30] <Grisha> but better is hard to be told
[07:30] <Fri13> jarras: Ubuntu is much easier but much limited too.
[07:30] <Grisha> every dist is better some way
[07:30] <jarras> what is diff?
[07:30] <Ubuntu> There really isn't any best distro -- depends on what you intend to use it for
[07:30] <shane634> Fri13, how is it limited?
[07:30] <jarras> so for develop?
[07:31] <jarras> :\
[07:32] <abhi> opera is now working after installation.pls help?
[07:32] <tapH20guru> what's the difference between ubuntu-xen-desktop and ubuntu-xen-server?
[07:32] <jarras> ok nvm
[07:32] <Fri13> shane634: Ubuntu is very good for basic system and what deeper you want to go, you need start using more packages or configs outside of base ubuntu. And then starts problems. If user wants be sure everything works like he/she wants, ne builds own distro but it isint easy.
[07:32] <shane634> abhi, cool it is working
[07:32] <ian13> flac: okay - somethings happened - whatever i say in the mic comes straight out the speaker now
[07:32] <jarras> thank you
[07:32] <flac> ian13: :)
[07:32] <MasTool> Hi guys..
[07:32] <Madcow> Hey folks
[07:33] <flac> ian13: So your mic works
[07:33] <ian13> flac: now we just need to get it to go in the right place
[07:33] <abhi> shane634: how do you install it?
[07:33] <Holek_> hi, my xine doesn't play ogg files, nor theora, nor vorbis... i have message, that "there is no demuxer plugin"
[07:33] <MasTool> i need a tiny help :)
[07:33] <drif> how can execute something when for example XF86AudioPlay occures under KDE?
[07:33] <shane634> Fri13, yes but that is the same with any distro
[07:33] <ian13> flac: well - skype still doesnt pick it up :P
[07:33] <MasTool> I'm having hard time with XGL..
[07:33] <MasTool> i installed the ATI drivers, with envy installer.
[07:33] <shane634> abhi, you said it was working
[07:33] <MasTool>  and everything is ok, but when i try to run the startxgl script, i get a grey screen and then the desktop look scrambeled
[07:33] <Madcow> I need a little help choosing what flavour of ubuntu would be best for me
[07:33] <ian13> flac: and thats with Mic Select set to Mic2 as opposed to Mic1
[07:34] <jughead> Madcow, whyat setup do you have?
[07:34] <dr_willis> Madcow,  you can easially install kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu all on the same desktop.
[07:34] <MasTool>  i see the background picture, but all icons are messed up :(  can anyone help please?
[07:34] <flac> ian13: maybe ... you shloud try
[07:34] <abhi> shane634: sorry i forgot to write not..
[07:34] <Madcow> bear in mind Im a total linux novice....
[07:34] <Fri13> shane634: Its same on every distro but ubuntu is _very_ limited against others. Of cource it dont stop you editing it but there is alot things what it does. Its more like KDE vs Gnome (no more about it ;-)).
[07:34] <aeiko_> I'm having some trouble with my modem, could anyone give me some assistance?
[07:34] <SlimeyPete> Madcow: get standard Ubuntu. You can change it into Kubuntu by installing kubuntu-desktop, or into xubuntu in the same way I think. That way, you can try them all out.
[07:34] <fliper_> godd evening guys...from a scale 1 to 10 how had is to program  pc wih ccc+++++ to ligth a led in rs32 or paralel with no hardware micro controlers
[07:34] <Madcow> jughead: well, right now I just have windows xp installed
[07:34] <shane634> Fri13, cool just a preference issue then
[07:35] <tim167> hi all, is there an ATI driver installer for  X.Org 7.2.x somewhere ?
[07:35] <Fri13> By personal i would say that Ubuntu is great because it gives good learning curve for linux world but when user wants more he starts looking other distros more...
[07:35] <ahmed> guys did any one here install warcraf 3 before on ubuntu ??
[07:35] <m0se5> How do I disable the keyboard shortcut "ctrl+alt+F6" on Ubuntu? Ubuntu replaced init with upstart event daemon. Is this keyboard shortcut hard coded?
[07:35] <SlimeyPete> personally, I like Kubuntu, but that's just me
[07:35] <jughead> Madcow, have you ever used linux?
[07:35] <Madcow> jughead: nay :)
[07:35] <ahmed> guys did any one here install warcraf 3 before on ubuntu ??
[07:35] <Madcow> wow -- how can you hold a conversation in here? busy as hell :P
[07:35] <abhi> fliper_: 7
[07:35] <ahmed> guys did any one here install warcraf 3 before on ubuntu  ??
[07:35] <fliper_> ahmed did u try wine?
[07:35] <ahmed> it works fine
[07:35] <ahmed> but after doing some patch to make it run online
[07:36] <ahmed> it gets an error
[07:36] <ahmed> cuase of some registry bad stuff
[07:36] <xyph> is there a difference in setting my timezone to Eastern or New York?
[07:36] <ahmed> like registry returns a wrong value to the game
[07:36] <ahmed> but when i run it on xgl
[07:36] <ahmed> it runs but very slow
[07:36] <Madcow> I've pretty much narrowed it down to Ubuntu, ubuntu studio or Kbuntu.....
[07:36] <Lorelei> #bash.org.pl
[07:37] <tim167> question: how can i install ATI video card drivers for X Server: X.Org 7.2.x  on ubuntu feisty ?
[07:37] <abhi> can oneone tell what is the bar representing at the bottom right of xchat?
[07:37] <shane634> tim167, did you try the repos? or envy?
[07:37] <crdlb> tim167: use the restricted manager
[07:37] <jughead> Madcow, it's a matter of preference (you;ll see).  The two big desktop environments are GNOME and KDE.  I use KDE and to me KDE is closer to Windows than GNOME.  I would start with Kubuntu and then try GNOME after that
[07:37] <tbuss> what is the easiest way to stream video on my home network. I would like to watch movies on one computer that are stored on another
[07:38] <shane634> tbuss, samba maybe
[07:38] <tim167> crdlb: the restricted manager ? where is that ?
[07:38] <Fri13> shane634: And one difference to ubuntu to other distros is almoust nothing. Ubuntu just takes Gnome and few good Gnome apps and use Debian other ways because it has longest support for updates. Any other distro can be good and even better than ubuntu. Ubuntu just is so simple to install so it has got attension.
[07:38] <jughead> tbuss, I do that all the time; I just setup samba sharing
[07:38] <Madcow> jughead: ok, so which is the easiest to setup a dual boot with? From what I've read it seems to be ubuntu
[07:38] <tbuss> shane634: samba is setup, but mplayer failes to open the avi file
[07:38] <crdlb> tim167: only on ubuntu: system>administration>restricted manager
[07:38] <linux_stu> hello i am installing ubuntu from a live cd, and x won't start, is there a terminal command to install ubuntu to a partition?
[07:38] <shane634> Fri13, i agree 100% easy is good though
[07:39] <tbuss> I noticed vlc does nto have an option for smb://
[07:39] <Fri13> jughead: and if someone wants use kubuntu because KDE, i suggest to remove those kubuntu profiles for KDE and use KDE defaults.. more options to use it as user wants.
[07:39] <Garnol> Hi .. where can i find printer drivers `???
[07:39] <Madcow> jughead: Im worried about somehow invalidating my XP installation
[07:39] <alex_> slaut
[07:39] <tim167> crdlb: ok thanks
[07:39] <ian13> flac: ...
[07:39] <jughead> Madcow, the installer is the same for both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
[07:39] <Garnol> Hi ... where can i find printer drivers ??
[07:39] <shane634> tbuss, sounds like a permissions issue
[07:40] <zero> hi, how do i install berly?
[07:40] <digital_k> hello again all :)
[07:40] <Garnol> Hi ... where can i find printer drivers ??
[07:40] <shane634> Garnol, cups has printer drivers built in
[07:40] <crdlb> zero: see #ubuntu-effects
[07:40] <shane634> Garnol, or the wiki page
[07:41] <Fri13> shane634: There is need for one very simple distro what just shows that linux isint hard to use. Right now it is Ubuntu what just came out on right time when Linux Desktops are taking long steps for better usability and there isin't so much need for CLI. Most important thing is Ubuntu just can show that linux isint so hard what old rumors told...
[07:41] <shane634> Fri13, once again i agree.. that is why i come here to help out when i can
[07:42] <fliper_> abhi sorry i was talking to the phone...i asked how hard is to get a +5v singal from a pin in rs232 or parralel with out microcontolers....
[07:42] <zero> crdlb: desktop effects "composite effects no extension avaible"
[07:42] <Madcow> jughead: that's good to hear.....to be honest Kbuntu has only entered the equation in the last ten minutes, so I haven't had time to read up on it yet....what are the advantages over the regular ubuntu?
[07:42] <surferita> holas
[07:43] <Garnol> Hi ... where can i find printer drivers ??
[07:43] <tbuss> shane634: well, I was misleading, mplayer opens the file, but it fails after I try to skip ahead in the video. After that, mplayer fails to load the file again. Do you have a preference of which media player you use, or one that is particularly good at streaming video
[07:43] <crdlb> zero: come to #ubuntu-effects
[07:43] <zero> ok
[07:43] <Fri13> shane634: Yes, it is very important to teach new users to first learn Gnome and show how simple it is to do simple task. And show how to get codecs etc installed. After they have learned these and basic security lessons, they can start making thigs more like they want and teach others users too.
[07:43] <Garnol> Hi ... where can i find printer drivers ??
[07:43] <fliper_> tried cups?
[07:43] <shane634> tbuss, i use mplayer.. vlc is very good as well
[07:44] <zero> join #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <PriceChild> Garnol, they should mostly all be already installed?
[07:44] <zero> join ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <PriceChild> zero, /join
[07:44] <Madcow> hehe
[07:44] <zero> PriceChild, thx
[07:44] <Garnol> PriceChild: i need to setup a new printer, i have a canon mp150
[07:44] <m0se5> How do I disable the keyboard shortcut "ctrl+alt+F6" on Ubuntu 7.04, so when I hit it, nothing happens?
[07:44] <tbuss> shane634: okay, thanks for your help. I just installed vlc, I'll give it a shot
[07:44] <rageagaintthis> what does everyone use for ruby programming.  I am going to take a stab at it.
[07:44] <shane634> Fri13, yep we agree once again.. this is the crossover from windows and should be painless
[07:44] <jughead> Madcow, the big difference between the two is the desktop environment.  If you want you can google GNOME (Ubuntu) and KDE (Kubuntu) to see the difference.  KDE looks more like windows and might be easier for someone just making the switch.
[07:44] <PriceChild> Garnol, have you gone through system > admin > printing ?
[07:44] <shane634> tbuss, let me know how it goes
[07:45] <Garnol> PriceChild: this is where i tried to setup
[07:45] <tbuss> shane634: np
[07:45] <fliper_> anyway..kepp up guys...
[07:45] <Garnol> PriceChild: i go to Canon .. but there isnt something wirten about MP150
[07:45] <EverythingEvil> lol, the old kde/gnome debate
[07:45] <Madcow> jughead: ahh....right. you already mentioned that, sorry for making you reply again :)
[07:45] <Madcow> so that's pretty much it?
[07:45] <shane634> debates are for forums not chat
[07:46] <CarlFK> is python part of ubuntu-desktop ?
[07:46] <dbrewer_rjr> i got vnc server to run in feisty by downgrading it to the edgy release of vnc4server. now how do i get it to init at startup?
[07:46] <Fri13> shane634: And i'm waiting KDE4 to come because it makes big changes to KDE so it is more easily to learn by default without losing that configuration power what it has.
[07:46] <EverythingEvil> i just like too many of the gnome apps
[07:46] <shane634> Fri13, nice hope it goes well for you
[07:47] <shane634> any Alienware users here?
[07:47] <jughead> Madcow, use Kubuntu if you don't like earth tones.  the default theme for Ubuntu is ugly to me (I don't like nature scenes or dirt colored backgrounds and menus).  KDE has a good looking default theme
[07:47] <savetheWorld> Hi all - I need to set up an account with no password on login.  Is there any way to do that?
[07:47] <PriceChild> Garnol, http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP150 says you can use the gutenprint driver
[07:47] <Fri13> jughead: or just download human theme for gnome what is blue. I saw one once on gnome-look.org
[07:48] <CarlFK> savetheWorld: how about a pw, but that user gets automatilally logged in ?
[07:48] <PriceChild> Garnol, so download that and install it (there's a install button on the printer wizard)
[07:48] <MetaBookfoziS> Anybody, who know howcan i debug, why my wifi doesnt work? I put: "iwconfig ra0 mode managed channel 1 key restricted s:KEY essid NETWORK", it doesnt say anything, syslog doesnt say anything, but i didn't get ip address and it isn't work.
[07:48] <savetheWorld> CarlFK: no, this is for a non shell account that runs a specifc command.  But thank you.
[07:48] <shane634> jughead, i use clearlooks quite nice and by default in themes
[07:49] <shane634> MetaBookfoziS, what card is it?
[07:49] <jughead> shane634, I messed with the themes in Ubuntu and I got it looking nice except for the spash screen when GNOME loads... it was still dirt
[07:49] <MetaBookfoziS> 00:0a.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[07:49] <MetaBookfoziS> shane634 > ^
[07:49] <Beets> hi
[07:49] <MrC_> Crystal Clear,NuovoXT and DropLine Nuovo are the best themes
[07:50] <MrC_> shane64
[07:50] <shane634> jughead, in feisty you can change the boot screen in System
[07:50] <haptiK> im such an idiot
[07:50] <CarlFK> savetheWorld: sounds like you are scripting something.  how would "no pw" be better than "some pw that is used in the script" ?
[07:50] <EverythingEvil> is the KDE alpha worth anything?
[07:50] <shane634> MetaBookfoziS, which wireless card do you use?
[07:50] <Beets> I can't set the resolution and refresh rate on my Feisty installation to anything above 60hz 1280x768.... What can I do? It has a intel GMA950 adapter
[07:50] <MetaBookfoziS> 00:0a.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[07:50] <haptiK> i closed my ubuntu iso download with 3 seconds left on it by accident
[07:50] <haptiK> FFS!!!!!
[07:50] <Beets> I tried editing xorg.org, but it seems to have no effect at all...
[07:50] <ian13> how do i add it so that a program loads when i loggin?
[07:50] <ladonna> shane634: tbuss on other computer.....
[07:50] <MrC_> does anyone knows how to install themes on xubuntu?
[07:50] <CarlFK> haptiK: use BT - it will finish (fix) it
[07:50] <savetheWorld> CarlFK: this technique allows a user in a public  library to reserve a terminal without  logging in.  and its not ascript.
[07:51] <crdlb> !startup | ian13
[07:51] <shane634> ladonna, ok
[07:51] <ubotu> ian13: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[07:51] <haptiK> BT?
[07:51] <dbrewer_rjr> how do i get a program to star ton bootup?
[07:51] <Garnol> Cant i setup my Canon Pixma MP150 ?? There is now Driver Preinstalled i think :( .... anyone here who knows some problems like this ??
[07:51] <MetaBookfoziS> shane634 > 00:0a.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[07:51] <haptiK> CarlFK: what is BT? and ive already removed and restarted the download its at 50%
[07:51] <savetheWorld> CarlFK: they just walk up to any kiosk not in use and enter "reservation"  for a user name
[07:51] <PriceChild> haptiK, do you stil have the image?
[07:51] <PriceChild> haptiK, or was it deleted?
[07:51] <Holek_> hi, my xine doesn't play ogg files, nor theora, nor vorbis... i have message, that "there is no demuxer plugin"
[07:51] <ian13> crdlb: thanks
[07:52] <PriceChild> haptiK, as if you still have most of it you could rsync or torrent the rest
[07:52] <CarlFK> savetheWorld: ah, got it.  I have even worked in library lab... (now pondering...)
[07:52] <haptiK> PriceChild i deleted it
[07:52] <PriceChild> :(
[07:52] <ladonna> shane634: it worked, I opened VLC, cliked file | open network stream | clicked in 'customize' and input smb://homeserver/external/Media_Server
[07:52] <shane634> MetaBookfoziS, look here http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=20663969
[07:52] <haptiK> PriceChild: its at 50 % again anyway
[07:52] <haptiK> no worries
[07:52] <PriceChild> ok
[07:52] <CarlFK> haptiK: Bit Torrent - it will work with what ever part you currently have
[07:52] <shane634> ladonna, good to hear then
[07:52] <neverblue> i have just setup my system to run duals, I am having an issue with changing the res on the second screen (SiS 300 + ATI Rage), I edited my xorg.conf to only have "higher" res, but its falling on 800x600, anything I can do to change it?
[07:52] <dbrewer_rjr> how do i get a program to start on bootup?
[07:53] <flac> ian13: does it work ?
[07:53] <haptiK> CarlFK: oh
[07:53] <PriceChild> dbrewer_rjr, when you boot or when you log into gnome?
[07:53] <flac> I have my sound again :D
[07:53] <dbrewer_rjr> boot
[07:53] <dbrewer_rjr> PriceChild: boot
[07:53] <EverythingEvil> dbrewer_rjr, in ubuntu?
[07:53] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, add it to session start up
[07:53] <dbrewer_rjr> ubuntu feisty
[07:53] <ian13> flac: well - no - it just seems to repeat out the speakers everything that i say - but skype doesnt like it
[07:53] <ladonna> shane634: is there a way to 'default' to that location, instead of typing the path every time?
[07:53] <dbrewer_rjr> is that a gui?
[07:53] <shane634> ladonna, not sure lol
[07:53] <flac> ian13: have you tried to pass your recording stuff into OSS ?
[07:54] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, yes under System-->sessions
[07:54] <EverythingEvil> dbrewer_rjr, system -> preferences -> seesions -> Startup programs tab
[07:54] <Chest> is there a command to verify a drive, NFS in this case, is actually mounted.?
[07:54] <ian13> flac: not too sure how to do that - but skype seems to just loose sound out when i use one of them
[07:54] <PriceChild> dbrewer_rjr, that only works when you log in, not on boot
[07:54] <ladonna> shane634: okay, well it works and I'm happy with that, thanks again for your help
[07:54] <shane634> ladonna, i do what i can lol
[07:55] <kml> hi
[07:55] <Xyhthyx> Chest: mount
[07:55] <dbrewer_rjr> i need vnc on the bootup, so the server gives me a desktop after a powerfailure while my ass is at home
[07:55] <dbrewer_rjr> i put a symlink in init.d, but it does not do it
[07:55] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, you will need to edit fstab possibly
[07:55] <kml> can someone help me to solve the hibernating mode problem
[07:56] <kml> i cannot use this mode
[07:56] <littletank> Thanks to Feisty my scanner does not work. Has anyone got a scanner that does please?
[07:56] <ladonna> shane634: same here, if it werent for forums, man pages and this chat I'd be lost
[07:56] <craigbass1976> I want to capture, via usb, streaming video from my camcorder.  Anyone done this?
[07:56] <dbrewer_rjr> wow i am looking at fstab, how depressing... not clear what to do to start vnc
[07:57] <neverblue> littletank, why isnt it working?
[07:57] <Beets> I really have no clue why setting resolution in Ubuntu is so incredible hard...
[07:57] <shane634> ladonna, i am a less than a year user.. i read alot lol
[07:57] <ian13> flac: yes, nothing
[07:57] <brutopia> feisty broke littletank's scanner, now someone have to give littletank a new one
[07:57] <ernst> In PaintShop Pro you can arrange multiple pictures on A4 or Letter ie and print it.... what's an equivalent for Ubuntu?
[07:57] <neverblue> Beets, what are you trying to do exactly?
[07:57] <ladonna> shane634: going on two months, very frustrating times :)
[07:58] <littletank> Because it is a Canon and Feisty kernel stops it working
[07:58] <shane634> Beets, edit xorg.conf is all
[07:58] <Beets> neverblue: trying to get a more sane resolution/refresh rate than 1280x768/60Hz...
[07:58] <jwt> jwt
[07:58] <brutopia> littletank: I'm sorry, I have canon too
[07:58] <stefg> Beets: because not enough attention was put on it, it's taht simple :-\
[07:58] <shane634> ladonna, if you need further help add me at yahoo as shane634
[07:58] <Beets> neverblue: I edited xorg.conf, but it has no effect at all on the resolution...
[07:58] <brutopia> just dump your canon and buy hp or some other supported hardware
[07:58] <neverblue> Beets, what card?
[07:58] <Xyhthyx> Beets: Did you restart x?
[07:58] <Beets> neverblue: Intel GMA 950
[07:58] <Garnol> Cant i setup my Canon Pixma MP150 ?? There is now Driver Preinstalled i think :( .... anyone here who knows some problems like this ??
[07:59] <dbrewer_rjr> hey maybe i edit grub? where is the grub file?
[07:59] <neverblue> Beets, what did you find you had to edit in your xorg.conf?
[07:59] <brutopia> I hammered my canon printed after finding out that it isn't and never will be supported on linux
[07:59] <Beets> Xyhthyx: yup, many times.
[07:59] <ernst> Garnol: on ubuntuforums.org someone found out how to install MP150
[07:59] <brutopia> then I stoned the windows of the shop I bought it from
[07:59] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, fstab is hooked to grub
[07:59] <Beets> neverblue: the vertical + horizontal frequencies of the monitor + the modes in the Screen section.
[07:59] <Garnol> brutopia: i can forget it with this printer ??
[07:59] <ahmed> guys i have so many xorg files how do i know which one is currently being used ??
[07:59] <dbrewer_rjr> shane634, fstab is just mountung the file systems
[07:59] <ian13> flac: any ideas :(
[08:00] <tbuss> shane634: will do, I'm tbozzbus @ yahoo
[08:00] <neverblue> Beets, did it not work initially and did you back up the original xorg.conf?
[08:00] <JinRoh> Hello, plz can anyone tell me how to fix the Azureus bug?? (crashes on startup, need to remove .azureus/logs)
[08:00] <ian13> flac: a different driver maybe? i dunno
[08:00] <brutopia> god I hate canon because of their missing linux support
[08:00] <flac> ian13: sorry, I got no other idea
[08:00] <JinRoh> ahmed:  what do you mean by so many?
[08:00] <bobrik> Hello, possible to _create_ _ad-hoc_ wifi network with NetworkManager? Seems not working with "Create new wireless network ..." - any experience?
[08:00] <aoirthoir> whew
[08:00] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, pastebin a dmes log perhaps
[08:00] <lethu> ahmed, the one named xorg.conf
[08:00] <tuxmaniac> Beets, go to terminal and do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:00] <Beets> neverblue: I backed it up. THe problem was there originally...
[08:00] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, dmesg
[08:00] <neverblue> JinRoh, check the ubuntu guide (google it) and it will show you an alternative install method
[08:00] <flac> ian13: I got this problem too and I remember that I solved it changing parameters in volume managers
[08:00] <ernst> In PaintShop Pro you can arrange multiple pictures on A4 or Letter ie and print it.... what's an equivalent for Ubuntu?
[08:00] <brutopia> Garnol: you may have luck with newest models since they claim to be working on linux support on them
[08:00] <Garnol> brutopia .. lol .. k now i have to ask my brohter everytime for printing :( .. hm .. i hate Canon same as ATI & others
[08:00] <neverblue> Beets, so the res nin the original wasnt high enough?
[08:01] <flac> ian13: but I dont remember exactly and my volume manager has disappeared, I dont know how to have it again
[08:01] <tuxmaniac> Beets, reconfgure the data and it should be up and running
[08:01] <shane634> ernst, gimp perhaps
[08:01] <Beets> tuxmaniac: Did that, nothing changed... Still only can choose 60Hz and up to 1280x768 in the Screen Resolution app.
[08:01] <Garnol> brutopia: whats new ?? (new is relativ- you know)
[08:01] <ernst> shane634:  I tried. but cannot find multiple print function in Gimp
[08:01] <ian13> flac: okay, thanks anyway
[08:01] <Beets> I Even tried to make a new modeline without any effect
[08:01] <h3h_timo> does anyone know how to edit the right click menu?
[08:01] <tuxmaniac> Beets, do you know whether your video card supports better ones?
[08:01] <brutopia> Garnol: I can't remember since my mind is resisting all canon crap
[08:02] <Garnol> HEHE
[08:02] <Beets> tuxmaniac Yeah, it supports up to 2048xsomething
[08:02] <shane634> ernst, the newest gimp?
[08:02] <tuxmaniac> w00t!
[08:02] <Garnol> ciao..
[08:02] <ernst> shane634:  I have 2.2.13 in feisty
[08:02] <shane634> ernst, ok
[08:03] <shane634> ernst, it is in setting somewhere not real familiar with it
[08:03] <ian13> flac: as a side note - the microphone tab obly appears under playback
[08:03] <ariel> hey
[08:04] <ernst> shane634: I'm looking again in gimp
[08:04] <JinRoh> neverblue:  I don't find that alternate method
[08:04] <ariel> what can I do, if i want to install ubuntu inside a solaris 10 container
[08:04] <neverblue> JinRoh, did you find the guide?
[08:04] <kemik> how do i enable direct framebuffer in ubuntu ?
[08:04] <JinRoh> yep
[08:04] <kemik> or recompile my kernel?
[08:04] <neverblue> at the top, go to the previous Ubuntu release
[08:04] <JinRoh> neverblue:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_P2P_BitTorrent_Client_.28Azureus.29
[08:04] <joseAway> 'lo all 1275 of yez
[08:04] <neverblue> JinRoh, its in Drake I think
[08:05] <neverblue> the alt. install of uzerus
[08:05] <joseAway> Anyone here that knows about installing phpmyadmin from apt-get?
[08:05] <ian13> flac: no idea if that makes any difference
[08:05] <tuxmaniac> !azureus neverblue
[08:05] <JinRoh> neverblue:   oh :/ so what bt client do you recommend me? I actually don't like azureus now :P
[08:05] <flac> apt-get install phpmyadmin ?
[08:05] <flac> ian13: No idea too, sorry ...
[08:05] <tuxmaniac> !azureus > neverblue
[08:05] <joseAway> flac, right, I've got that bit
[08:06] <FutureMarine> what are the system requirements for ubuntu version 5.04
[08:06] <neverblue> tuxinator_linux, your helping the wrong person
[08:06] <joseAway> Once it's installed, it's behaving strangely
[08:06] <JinRoh> !azureus > JinRoh
[08:06] <neverblue> shoot, tuxmaniac i mean
[08:06] <flac> joseAway: so what's the matter ?
[08:06] <flac> joseAway: ah ok
[08:06] <tuxmaniac> neverblue, aah ok :-) Sorry
[08:06] <ian13> anyone else know if it is an issue if in alsamixer the microphone appears under the playback tab (and there is no input/recording tab)
[08:06] <brutopia> FutureMarine: just install the newest version since since it doesn't work like with microsoft's products that every version needs more performance
[08:06] <LMJ> Samba 3.0.24 (smbd exactly) segfault/code dump/crash when i launch it ? Got a fresh Feisty x86_64 install, is that a famous bug ? is there a salution ?
[08:06] <LMJ> solution*
[08:07] <neverblue> JinRoh, azureus is a hog
[08:07] <FutureMarine> Its on a laptop that is not all that powerful
[08:07] <joseAway> flac, it may be a problem I should ask the PMA people about, but when I try to log in as root and my mysql root user's password, I just go back to the login screen. No error
[08:07] <dbrewer_rjr> ok here is the answer: make a symlink to vncserver in init.d; and then: sudo update-rc.d vncserver defaults
[08:07] <neverblue> JinRoh, i think its like ktorrent
[08:07] <FutureMarine> Im trying to install it
[08:07] <neverblue> or itorrent
[08:07] <JinRoh> *looking up "hop"*
[08:07] <neverblue> something like that
[08:07] <brutopia> in fact the newest version quite possibly has better performance because of newer drivers
[08:07] <Cryoniq> Question: How do I reinstall for example nvidia-glx-legacy driver if xorg logfile tell me API mismatch where kernel module has version 1.0-7184 while X module is 1.0-9631? When I try it says there are no package for nvidia-glx-legacy or that it is linked (or similiar) by or to something else however?
[08:07] <JinRoh> *hog
[08:08] <JinRoh> neverblue:   what do you think of deluge?
[08:08] <CarlFK> ian13: skype has issues.  convince your friends (not easy) to use a standard VoIP protocol like SIP and then use one of the 100's of phones (like Ekiga)
[08:08] <flac> joseAway: try to reset mysql root pass ... there are tutorials for that
[08:08] <CRY> HI! any body speak to Russian?
[08:08] <joseAway> flac, aye, just did
[08:08] <Pelo> !ru | CRY
[08:08] <ubotu> CRY:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:08] <ian13> carlfx: i am only using it to try and check my mic - sound recorder just returns incalid parameter
[08:09] <joseAway> it's with the new password I'm getting this lack of an error (before I just got 'wrong password')
[08:09] <ian13> oh - got it working :D
[08:09] <neverblue> JinRoh, never used it
[08:09] <ian13> Capture, as opposed to microphone is what i needed
[08:09] <neverblue> I use IRC for all my "downloads"
[08:09] <JinRoh> xdcc?
[08:09] <FutureMarine> is linux hard to learn when your a newbie at it
[08:10] <FutureMarine> ?
[08:10] <_defcon> I need HELP, i have a dell, I formatted my main hard disk drive and I am using ubuntu on another drive, It does not autoboot, I have to press F12 and boot to utility partition to run ubuntu
[08:10] <neverblue> thats none of your business :)
[08:10] <JinRoh> FutureMarine:  no
[08:10] <flac> FutureMarine: we all have been newbies at one time :)
[08:10] <neverblue> FutureMarine, yes
[08:10] <neverblue> :)
[08:10] <JinRoh> FutureMarine:  no
[08:10] <JinRoh> :p
[08:10] <FutureMarine> lol
[08:10] <flac> FutureMarine: I did not find it very difficult
[08:10] <neverblue> take a vote?
[08:10] <FutureMarine> :)
[08:10] <_defcon> how do I set it up to autoboot?
[08:10] <shane634> FutureMarine, yes and no.. do you have time? windows wasn't instant either
[08:10] <dbrewer_rjr> shit that still did not do it
[08:10] <dbrewer_rjr> !!!
[08:10] <JinRoh> hands up who says no
[08:10] <_defcon> in bios I have no option to boot to my ubuntu drive
[08:10] <savetheWorld> CarlFK: Found  it:  change /etc/pam.d/common  auth  line : > auth  required        pam_unix.so nullok_secure  to   < auth  required        pam_unix.so nullok, and then use passwd -s <username> on theaccount.
[08:10] <chekker> i'm new to ubuntu, run it for a week now and i am doing okay, pretty easy to set up
[08:10] <Pelo> JinRoh, are you looking for a torrent client ?  try runninig utorrent on wine , it does a very nice job
[08:10] <neverblue> !language | dbrewer_rjr
[08:10] <ian13> and i would use something other than skype- but i dont know of any comparible alternatives to skypeout
[08:10] <CarlFK> neverblue: it is worth the effort
[08:10] <_defcon> !ktorrent
[08:10] <neverblue> CarlFK, is what?
[08:11] <dbrewer_rjr> sowwy :(
[08:11] <FutureMarine> Im a lot more familair with Windows but I really dont like Windows I only use it for playing video games
[08:11] <ubotu> dbrewer_rjr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <CarlFK> savetheWorld: thanks - Ill drop that from my list of things I am pondering :)
[08:11] <Carsten> hi, how can i avoid that grub is installed on mbr (7.04 alternate), it should be installed to bootsektor of partion
[08:11] <JinRoh> Pelo:  maybe I should try, actually I have used uTorrent on Windows for a year on windows :p
[08:11] <shane634> FutureMarine, i offer help here after less than a year.. not hard at all just different
[08:11] <dbrewer_rjr> i canot come up with another thing to do to get vnc to start on bootup
[08:11] <savetheWorld> CarlFK: $.05 charge... :-)
[08:11] <CarlFK> neverblue: "it is" was not a question.  regardless of easy/hard rating, learn about Linux.
[08:11] <_defcon> I need HELP, i have a dell, I formatted my main hard disk drive and I am using ubuntu on another drive, It does not autoboot, I have to press F12 and boot to utility partition to run ubuntu?
[08:12] <neverblue> oh
[08:12] <Pelo> JinRoh,  a few minor things don'T work but otherwise it works great, (right click status bar speed control just doesn'T happen)
[08:12] <FutureMarine> Yea I have been trying to find the right distro for sometime
[08:12] <neverblue> yeah, I dont think it is easy
[08:12] <neverblue> no matter what distro your using
[08:12] <mc44> FutureMarine: well, you found it :)
[08:12] <shane634> FutureMarine, welcome to the most user friendly i have found
[08:12] <neverblue> its all a learning process, and learning is tough, unless your 5
[08:12] <dbrewer_rjr> there must be a way to get vnc to start at bootup!!!!
[08:13] <vorbote> _defcon: Is there no way that you can set the second disk as the boot volume in the BIOS?
[08:13] <mc44> !startup | dbrewer_rjr
[08:13] <ubotu> dbrewer_rjr: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[08:13] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, is it that hard to start upon boot?
[08:13] <CarlFK> my comments on distros: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten
[08:13] <Pelo> dbrewer_rjr,   system > prefs > sessions
[08:13] <FutureMarine> o yea I have been through so many cd's of burning distro and this is a really good one, is this linux like Linspire because I find Linspire really easy too
[08:13] <_defcon> vorbote, nope
[08:13] <ariel> hey where I can find some kind os CG library for festy
[08:13] <dbrewer_rjr> i saw that, but that is post-login execution?
[08:13] <_defcon> vorbote, is there something I can do, do I need a boot loader on my main drive?
[08:13] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, no that is startup execution
[08:13] <Pelo> ariel,  C G ?
[08:14] <Carsten> hi, how can i avoid that grub is installed on mbr (7.04 alternate), it should be installed to bootsektor of partion
[08:14] <ariel> yeah
[08:14] <dbrewer_rjr> ok, brb
[08:14] <ariel> CG
[08:14] <vorbote> _defcon: Then, the straight thing would be to swap the order in the IDE cable to make your ubuntu drive the master...
[08:14] <Pelo> _defcon,  I think you can install the bootloader on any drive yo want
[08:14] <Pelo> !grub | _defcon
[08:14] <ubotu> _defcon: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:14] <vorbote> _defcon: Or you can install grun in the master disk
[08:14] <brianski> hmm, i managed to compile myself a kernel where i get no text output whatsoever - nothing until X starts except a black screen.... anyone know what i might have missed?
[08:14] <vorbote> s/grun/grub
[08:15] <ismailmf> hi all
[08:15] <ismailmf> i have a quick question
[08:15] <shane634> _defcon, windows hates grub
[08:15] <Pelo> ariel,  can you tell me what CG means ?
[08:15] <_defcon> shane634, I dont have windows
[08:15] <Pelo> ismailmf,  there is no such thing
[08:15] <ismailmf> if you dont an internet connection how do you install te nvidia drivers
[08:15] <belfegor> hi,how can i see the computers on my network?
[08:15] <shane634> ismailmf, you get the net working
[08:15] <ariel> computer graphics...
[08:15] <dacompjoe> When installing Feisty on an external hard drive (which I've done successfully before), it always lists the partitions and file system types for my internal hard drives (which I don't want to affect) -- so I always end up removing these from the list during installation, but then they are not mounted at startup -- will they lose their data if I leave them on the list in the partition manager during installation?
[08:15] <FutureMarine> The only thing that really confuses me about linux is the fact that I dont know how to install programs onto
[08:15] <Pelo> ismailmf,  put your installation cd in the cd drive,   sudo apt-get update , and then install , but I can'T garranty that the nvidia drivers are on the instalation cd
[08:16] <FutureMarine> it
[08:16] <ariel> libraries that you can use to make games... or movies i
[08:16] <shane634> FutureMarine, it is very easy.. use synaptic to install em
[08:16] <vorbote> dacompjoe: no, unless you mess with the contents yourself.
[08:16] <ismailmf> there is no way to get a net connection where the pc is based. is there any url where i can get the deb files
[08:16] <Pelo> dacompjoe,  no , just make sure the format check box is not checked
[08:16] <FutureMarine> o ok
[08:16] <dbrewer_rjr> ok, so that you guys know in the future, adding to the seesions does nothing to the bootup
[08:16] <FutureMarine> is it used for installing all linux programs
[08:16] <FutureMarine> is it with ubuntu?
[08:16] <Pelo> ariel,  try searching the forum for info
[08:17] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, why not?
[08:17] <HyperDevil> where can i download a dc client for ubuntu? cant find anything in the ubuntu repositories...
[08:17] <dbrewer_rjr> sessions does not start until i log in
[08:17] <dacompjoe> thanks everyone
[08:17] <ariel> I was trying for that...
[08:17] <Pelo> ismailmf,  put your installation cd in the cd drive,   sudo apt-get update , and then install , but I can'T garranty that the nvidia drivers are on the instalation cd
[08:17] <dbrewer_rjr> if i change the server from home using vnc, and then reboot, i cannot get back inthe way it is configured
[08:17] <lethu> FutureMarine, System --> Administration --> Synaptic...
[08:17] <vorbote> HyperDevil: there are a couple. dc++ comes to mind.
[08:17] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, they are startup programs lol
[08:18] <s0urce> crdlb: much thx
[08:18] <HyperDevil> vorbote: but it is not in the repositorie.. :(
[08:18] <FutureMarine> what does synaptic do is it a step by step process of installing programs?
[08:18] <ariel> but I maybe some one about... and can tell me ... some library i can use inside my C program
[08:18] <ariel> because I the last one can help me to fix my game
[08:18] <shane634> FutureMarine, it handles everything for you... click install and it does lol
[08:18] <PriceChild> Pelo, you are not muted
[08:18] <dbrewer_rjr> shane634: so no one has answered the question, how to get a program to start on bootup
[08:18] <Neil-> getting so tired of mp3 in ubuntu.. rhythmbox closes itself for no reason with a sigsegv, its a reported bug too
[08:18] <Neil-> beep does the same
[08:18] <FutureMarine> even tarballs
[08:18] <FutureMarine> ?
[08:18] <Neil-> is there any decent mp3 player that doesnt just die?
[08:18] <Pelo> ariel,  windows game running on wine ? try asking in #winehq
[08:19] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, add it to startup in session manager
[08:19] <s0urce> crdlb: u know a reason, why i cant import my exported settings file?
[08:19] <vorbote> HyperDevil: sure they are. Use apt-cache search <blah> (I find it easier than synaptic for this sort of thing.
[08:19] <ariel> well... it fine
[08:19] <shane634> FutureMarine, all dependicies are handled
[08:19] <FutureMarine> nice
[08:19] <Pelo> Thanks PriceChild  but you'Re an op you would see me talk anyway ,  :-)<
[08:19] <jughead> Neil-, what do you mean?  How did your mp3 player die?
[08:19] <dromer> hmm, I just had to boot into windows again, but I couldn't and got an "Error 13". how can I fix this?
[08:19] <shane634> FutureMarine, no issues at all
[08:19] <PriceChild> Pelo, only if i were +o
[08:19] <ariel> I live without that... but maybe i can make one
[08:19] <Neil-> they close after a few minutes of playing
[08:19] <dbrewer_rjr> shane634: have you been paying attention? i just did that, and rebooted, and tried to login remotely, and nooooooo dice!
[08:19] <Neil-> i guess it must be the same bug..
[08:19] <FutureMarine> Well now I really like this linux
[08:20] <HyperDevil> vorbote: apt-cache search dc++ ...... nothing
[08:20] <ariel> hey,.. how can i make a GTK library
[08:20] <ariel> ??
[08:20] <Neil-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs2/+bug/94893
[08:20] <dbrewer_rjr> sessions run AFTER you log in
[08:20] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, your remote settings are not spot on then
[08:20] <vorbote> HyperDevil: drop the ++
[08:20] <FutureMarine> does the program synaptics also uninstalls programs too?
[08:20] <Neil-> this is my rhythmbox issue, but beep does it too, so annoying
[08:20] <profoX`> Hi. I added a new user to my feisty installation with "sudo adduser" and I edited /etc/group afterwards to make the groups correct, but I still forgot somethiing, because changing the desktop wallpaper won't work in GNOME.. I also can't make new folders directly on the desktop (I can through nautilus though) -- any idea?
[08:20] <shane634> FutureMarine, yes it does
[08:20] <HyperDevil> vorbote: the standard ubuntu version is not ++ right?
[08:20] <dbrewer_rjr> shane634, after i log in to the server, they work just fine. try again.
[08:20] <FutureMarine> nice
[08:20] <dbrewer_rjr> both pc's are on the desk next to me
[08:21] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, after..put that in front of the login command perhaps
[08:21] <NoiseTherapy> a
[08:21] <vorbote> HyperDevil: The point is: ++ is two regex atoms. Those foobar your search pattern
[08:21] <FutureMarine> would you recommend a antivirus for ubuntu?
[08:21] <clinton> Hello! I'm having odd display problems -- I have the nvidia drivers installed, and ubuntu's screen resolution thinger won't display modes above 1024x768x50hz, and nvidia-settings displays 1024x768, 1152x768, 1280x768, and 1280x800
[08:21] <dbrewer_rjr> ????
[08:21] <Pelo> FutureMarine, if you are just starting consider using  add/remove in the applications menu,  synaptic is everyting libs and such   add remove is just applications
[08:21] <FutureMarine> ok
[08:21] <vorbote> HyperDevil: search for dcc
[08:22] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, you realize these commands are complex correct?  allow for such in the startup
[08:22] <Pelo> FutureMarine,  you migth find this usefull   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[08:22] <clinton> I would appreciate assistance on getting resolutions working that aren't like, weird widescreen resolutions at refresh rates of under 50hz
[08:22] <HyperDevil> thanks
[08:22] <dbrewer_rjr> this has become a major issue. i can do this in redhat, and in fact need to all the time to manage the server remotely
[08:22] <Neil-> Would using kde fix it perhaps? Getting annoying with all my music closing on me
[08:22] <Neil-> sames its a gnome vfs issue
[08:22] <clinton> Ubuntu 7.03
[08:22] <dbrewer_rjr> shane634: the command is : vncserver
[08:22] <vorbote> HyperDevil: dcgui, sorry
[08:22] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, i am no server wiz but it is simple
[08:23] <dbrewer_rjr> there are no arguments to it at all
[08:23] <FutureMarine> thanks
[08:23] <dbrewer_rjr> ok then i am waiting for the answer!!!
[08:23] <Pelo> clinton, I'm pretty sure I have seen something about this in the forum,  something about changing nvdia for nv in xorg.conf
[08:23] <shane634> dbrewer_rjr, put it in startup and reboot that is the answer
[08:24] <dbrewer_rjr> i put a link in init.d, and ran update-rc.d, still no vnc at bootup
[08:24] <neverblue> FutureMarine, google ubuntu guide
[08:24] <irie> only english ?
[08:24] <FutureMarine> I have a question does ubuntu need a antivirus
[08:24] <FutureMarine> ?
[08:24] <neverblue> might be a big help for you
[08:24] <shane634> FutureMarine, no
[08:24] <dbrewer_rjr> i already put it in startup and rebooted.. that is not the answer
[08:24] <Pelo> !de | irie
[08:24] <ubotu> irie: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:24] <PriceChild> irie, there are other language channels.
[08:24] <dbrewer_rjr> startup fires after login
[08:24] <irie> thx :)
[08:24] <Pelo> dbrewer_rjr, in startup   sudo vncserver
[08:24] <FutureMarine> why doesnt ubuntu need an antivirus?
[08:24] <irie> same server ?
[08:25] <dbrewer_rjr> brb
[08:25] <neverblue> i have just setup my system to run duals, I am having an issue with changing the res on the second screen (SiS 300 + ATI Rage), I edited my xorg.conf to only have "higher" res, but its falling on 800x600, anything I can do to change it?
[08:25] <PriceChild> !virus | FutureMarine
[08:25] <ubotu> FutureMarine: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:25] <ariel> hey i found some in nvidia developer
[08:25] <shane634> FutureMarine, there are many forum post's on that
[08:25] <PriceChild> irie, yes
[08:25] <clinton> Pelo: I be a newbie to the whole graphical linux thing, and ubuntu in general, can you point me in the general direction of which forum I should look in? :P
[08:25] <irie> thx
[08:25] <ariel> but... maybe It's not for free
[08:25] <Pelo> FutureMarine,  the way linux is constructed most virus aren't compatible,  adn there are few virus around for linux anyway
[08:25] <tim167> does envy work on feisty ?, i ran envy on ubuntustudio to install nvidia drivers and now X wont start anymore, i tried replacing xorg.conf with the old one but it doesnt work
[08:25] <Neil-> !envy
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <littletank> Thanks to Feisty my Canon scanner will not work. Has anyone got a scanner working in Feisty?
[08:25] <shane634> tim167, you need the newest envy for that
[08:26] <PriceChild> tim167, envy is unsupported here... but afaik it does work on feisty
[08:26] <PriceChild> !xcondig | tim167
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xcondig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <PriceChild> !xconfig | tim167
[08:26] <ubotu> tim167: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:26] <orbisvicis> !ldap
[08:26] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[08:26] <kemik> it seems the kernel has a module for VESA VGA, which atm is not loaded.. how do i figure out the module name and load it manually ?
[08:26] <PriceChild> tim167, do the second command there
[08:26] <Pelo> clinton,  www.ubuntuforums.com   use the search feature and search for your card model,  I can'T realy help you more then that , I know little about hardware problesm and nothing abut nvidia cards
[08:26] <shane634> PriceChild, it does work with envy
[08:26] <PriceChild> tim167, then use the restricted drivers manager for nvidia
[08:26] <clinton> Pelo: thanks for your assistance :)
[08:26] <FutureMarine> thanks for the help
[08:26] <MrC_> I am trying to install some themes on Xubuntu,but when i try to extract the files it says:"You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/usr/share/themes"
[08:26] <tim167> PriceChild: ok i did restricted drivers first tho, but 3d was still slow
[08:26] <shane634> though manually is sometimes better
[08:27] <Pelo> clinton, ccheck in again at different times of day, differnt crowds have different skills
[08:27] <ShaoKahn> Hello
[08:27] <shane634> FutureMarine, no prob
[08:27] <dromer> can someone help me fix grub, I can't boot into windows anymore (haven't done so in over half a year :P no I need it and I can't :S) I get Error 13 upon boot
[08:27] <MrC_> Could anyone give some help on this?
[08:27] <fuzzy_logic> hello people
[08:27] <Pelo> MrC_,  donT' extract the theme packages , just drop them in your theme manager
[08:27] <orbisvicis> !rpcbind
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rpcbind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <MrC_> ok thx
[08:27] <fuzzy_logic> anyone have idea how i can make my own web repositories for apt-get?
[08:27] <dbrewer_rjr> Pelo: added the sudo to the front, rebooted, still no remote connection till i login. guess i have to drive to work every time i reboot?
[08:28] <digital_k> Pelo: some of them arent packaged right and you have to extract them to get all of themes, Ive noticed this lately with themes from gnome.org
[08:28] <littletank> I need a new scanner that will work on Feisty, ideas please.
[08:28] <Pelo> dromer,  try asking in #grub
[08:28] <bbrazil> orbisvicis: what's your question?
[08:28] <FutureMarine> Not good
[08:28] <digital_k> Pelo:  I sorted my o.o issue, I changed the font that o.o uses and the size also, all fixed.
[08:28] <Pelo> dbrewer_rjr,  does vncserver establish a connection automaticaly when it starts ?
[08:28] <FutureMarine> ok nm
[08:28] <Neil-> Are the debug packages not available for BMP in the ubuntu repository?
[08:28] <dromer> Pelo: kay, thnx
[08:28] <Pelo> digital_k,  great
[08:28] <Neil-> im doing a backtrace, but assuming I need those really
[08:28] <orbisvicis> what is rpcbind ? and rpc
[08:29] <orbisvicis> ok, nvrmind, I dont want to shut that down
[08:29] <honeymonkey> hi everybody, twice after leaving my computer for some time gdm has restarted, presenting me with the login screen. I'm using beryl with fgxrl. I'm guessing X is crashing when the screensaver starts (not all the time, sometimes it begins with no problem, and I know I shouldn't be using fgxrl and all), but I don't know if I should be concerned about security with this issue. What do you think?
[08:29] <ariel> umm... what't that??
[08:29] <albert> is it possible to let both, debian and ubuntu, use the same /boot directory?
[08:29] <bbrazil> orbisvicis: for rpcbind, look up 'portmap'
[08:29] <dbrewer_rjr> Pelo, right now i have to pull up a terminal window and type: 'vncserver' to get it to start
[08:29] <bbrazil> orbisvicis: rpc are Remote Prodcedure Calls, generally across a network
[08:29] <Pelo> honeymonkey,   #beryl might be a better place to ask
[08:30] <orbisvicis> turning off the rpcbind service is a bad idea, right ?
[08:30] <tim167> PriceChild: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh didnt help...
[08:30] <Pelo> dbrewer_rjr, stupid question here becaue I have been having some issues with the startup manager myself, but make sure you "save session " before exiting , when vnc running
[08:31] <honeymonkey> ok, thanks pelo, security-wise you wouldn't be concerned then?
[08:31] <lastent> hi does anyone use Bison or Yacc
[08:31] <PriceChild> tim167, that resets defaults. then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" and it will restart your x
[08:31] <Pelo> dbrewer_rjr,  you could also ask in a vnc channel for proper startup string
[08:31] <orbisvicis> !portmap
[08:31] <ShaoKahn> i have a little question, maybe i am wrong, but i just would be on the secure side. i have a system with 3 SIL3112 Raid Cards. on each card i have 2 Disks with 400 GB. i set them in raidmenu on Raid1 (mirror) in partitioning (install ubuntu 6.06.1) i see every disk. sda sdb sdc sdd sde sdf. shouldn't i see only 3 (the mirror sets) thanx for any hints. (PS: looks the same in suse 10.2, debian4)
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <bbrazil> orbisvicis: probably, FAM needs it
[08:32] <slimz> does anyone know of a fax solution for ubuntu?
[08:32] <bbrazil> orbisvicis: which KDE at least requires
[08:32] <littletank> Please, please can anyone help with a scanner that works on Feisty?
[08:32] <Pelo> honeymonkey,  general security rules still apply, donT' open unknown emails or attachements,   stay away from phishing sites etc,  there are antivirues you can use   clamav is one,  but personnaly I am not all that bothred
[08:32] <Elrohi1> hello to everybody
[08:32] <orbisvicis> ok
[08:32] <orbisvicis> thanks
[08:32] <gatorworks> Anyone know a utility that will compare two files with different EOL styles?  Can I do it with diff + some arguments or something?  Right now it says 100% different because of EOL style.
[08:32] <Pelo> slimz, I do , took me months to figure it out
[08:32] <Beets> hm... I find it completely unacceptable that the resolution of X11 is impossible to control in 7.04.... No matter what I write in xorg.conf, I still have the exactly same choices in the "Screen Resolution" app....
[08:32] <linxeh> littletank: what scanner ?
[08:32] <honeymonkey> thanks pelo
[08:33] <slimz> Pelo: is it something where you can receive faxes in evolution?
[08:33] <littletank> Any scanner that works on Feisty
[08:33] <shane634> Beets, what is the issue exactly?
[08:33] <tim167> PriceChild: i tried /etc/init.d/gdm restart, still no luck...
[08:33] <slimz> Pelo: i've been googling forever and i cant find anything thatll help
[08:33] <aoirthoir> honeymonkey, security breaches in Gnu/Linux would be more along the lines of phishing sites, or insecure passwords.
[08:33] <dave_> anyone know how to start a second instance of the same application?
[08:33] <gatorworks> Beets: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg-server
[08:33] <andatche> gatorworks: convert one of the files to the same EOL as the other
[08:33] <PriceChild> tim167, sudo
[08:33] <tim167> RiceChild: yes, did it with sudo
[08:33] <Pelo> slimz, no but I have read somewhere that you can rederect ti to a mail server for evolution to pick up , but my basic setup is just a little app in the top pannel
[08:33] <aoirthoir> honeymonkey, it is rare that you are going to find yourself viewing a jpg and thus installing a virus
[08:33] <Beets> shane634: I can only choose between 640, 800, 1024 and 1280 in the resolution setting, and 60Hz in the refresh setting..
[08:34] <slimz> Pelo : do you know what its called
[08:34] <slimz> Pelo: ?
[08:34] <Beets> gatorworks: I have done that a great many times...
[08:34] <Rex> hello all...
[08:34] <Pelo> slimz,     sudo apt-get efax-gtk
[08:34] <shane634> Beets, can you set em in xorg.conf?
[08:34] <aoirthoir> watup Rex
[08:34] <Pelo> slimz,     sudo apt-get install efax-gtk
[08:34] <gatorworks> Beets: sorry, that's the extent of my expertise :(
[08:34] <Beets> shane634: that has no effect what so ever.. It is as if the Screen Resolution app lives its own life...
[08:34] <orbisvicis> theres an unknown tcp service on port 683, what could it be ?
[08:34] <Pelo> slimz,  when you are done installing let me know and I will check your config with you and tell you how to setup print to fax
[08:34] <Rex> Beets, what's up? I am just working on resolution myself.
[08:35] <aoirthoir> orbisvicis, I think that is CUPS
[08:35] <littletank> I'll come back later.
[08:35] <aoirthoir> orbisvicis, try http://localhost:683
[08:35] <shane634> Beets, yes it is a seperate deal can you post your xorg.conf in pastebin?
[08:35] <aoirthoir> orbisvicis, nevermind cups is 631.
[08:35] <h3h_timo> hey all, is there a way to customize a group so that anyone that joins it will have the same settings for their desktop and panels and such??
[08:35] <orbisvicis> aoirthoir : its a blank? page
[08:36] <aoirthoir> orbisvicis, i was mistaken. port 631 is cups.
[08:36] <slimz> Pelo : can evolution pick up the email without the internet connection?
[08:36] <orbisvicis> ok
[08:36] <Neil-> Anyone suggest a 3rd mp3 player? Both rhythmbox and beep segfault out for different reasons, getting a bit annoying
[08:36] <shane634> slimz, no
[08:36] <ShaoKahn> no one expirienced in raidproblems?
[08:36] <DuckFart> hi. I've been LiveCD testing Ubuntu 7.04. Everything went great until I tried to setup my printer. PC froze instantly, no keyboard or mouse action, but my keyboard LEDs flashed on and off constantly, Anyone got any ideas on that one? Thanks in advance!
[08:36] <mx-zoom> Neil-: amarok?
[08:36] <Rex> Neil... amarok
[08:36] <Beets> shane634: pastebin is down.. what's the name of the other one again?
[08:36] <Molluck> rofl
[08:36] <benzs_s> amarok fails
[08:36] <Neil-> Ok ta guys, fingers crossed, will give it a go
[08:36] <Molluck> my name is neil and my brother's name is rex
[08:36] <Neil-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beep-media-player/+bug/116252
[08:36] <dave_> anyone know how to run 2 instances of kopete?
[08:36] <shane634> Beets, beats me lol
[08:36] <Neil-> this look ok?
[08:37] <Rex> lol
[08:37] <jughead> Neil-, amarok, VLC, xmms, noaturn
[08:37] <dbrewer_rjr> ShaoKahn: what is the problem?
[08:37] <orbisvicis> corba-iiop ?
[08:37] <Pelo> slimz,  I beleive so but honestly I do not know how to do that part ,  it gets you can setup so the faxes get redirected trhouht a imap on your system or something,  but you won't need it
[08:37] <mx-zoom> benzs_s: fails at what?
[08:37] <ShaoKahn> dbrewer_rjr: i have a little question, maybe i am wrong, but i just would be on the secure side. i have a system with 3 SIL3112 Raid Cards. on each card i have 2 Disks with 400 GB. i set them in raidmenu on Raid1 (mirror) in partitioning (install ubuntu 6.06.1) i see every disk. sda sdb sdc sdd sde sdf. shouldn't i see only 3 (the mirror sets) thanx for any hints. (PS: looks the same in suse 10.2, debian4)
[08:37] <honeymonkey> thank you aoirthoir. the only thing that scares me are rootkits. I'm worried that my inexperience may make my system vulnerable via misconfiguration.
[08:37] <benzs_s> working :(
[08:37] <Molluck> Rex, hi brother!
[08:37] <Rex> Molluck: hey...
[08:38] <Rex> lol
[08:38] <mx-zoom> benzs_s: amarok completely pwns imho. never had a problem with it. what error do you get?
[08:38] <aoirthoir> honeymonkey, it is much more difficult under Gnu/Linux to install those. However, if you only install software (for the time being) from the ubuntu repositories, you should be ok
[08:38] <dbrewer_rjr> if the card does not support raid5 and it was inexpensive, you may be running fakeraid
[08:38] <Rex> Beets: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:38] <benzs_s> when trying to load a playlist it simply freezes
[08:38] <dbrewer_rjr> ShaoKahn,if the card does not support raid5 and it was inexpensive, you may be running fakeraid
[08:38] <orbisvicis> if I do sessions -> startup programs -> sudo firestarter, why does firestarter never start ?
[08:38] <benzs_s> the load bar doesn't budge from 0% etc
[08:38] <Pelo> honeymonkey,  the nice thing about ubuntu is it's userfreindly ness, there is little that you can do by accident that will make your system less secure,  just donT, run as root , run as a regular user and use sudo when you need to only
[08:39] <benzs_s> probably something i've done to break it, but banshee works anyway :)
[08:39] <mx-zoom> benzs_s: try the #amarok channel. maybe someone can help you
[08:39] <ShaoKahn> dbrewer_rjr: i have other cards on clients (i know, bad word: wind0ws xp) and they are running pefect (showing only 1 disk instead of the 2 connected)
[08:39] <Beets> shane634: This is the modified-to-the bone version:  http://pastebin.ca/503057
[08:39] <Pelo> orbisvicis, it is stared , just not the gui you can see,  make sure the session is saved
[08:39] <dbrewer_rjr> ShoaKahn: windows has no prob running fakeraid, linux does
[08:39] <Beets> shane634: this is the original:  http://pastebin.ca/503059
[08:40] <neverblue> how can I pipe a large (LAN) file from a url?
[08:40] <ShaoKahn> dbrewer_rjr: lol.. so then.. i have to try someting else! thanx for your time!
[08:40] <neverblue> and save it on my local system
[08:40] <Elrohi1> someone can help install ubuntu?:)
[08:40] <aoirthoir> honeymonkey, so to clarify what Pelo is saying, if a site recommends you type the command "sudo" make sure it is a trusted website. sudo in ubuntu equals root (sort of)
[08:40] <neverblue> Elrohi1, google: ubuntu guide
[08:40] <orbisvicis> is it possible to get the gui started too ?
[08:40] <honeymonkey> thanks again aoirthoir and pelo
[08:40] <Rex> Beets: you absolutely sure about your horiz and vert rates?
[08:40] <aoirthoir> yw honeymonkey
[08:40] <Elrohi1> oki I'll try
[08:41] <shane634> Beets, what are the actual issues?
[08:41] <dromer> Pelo: absolutely no reply @ #grub .. this must have come because of some ubuntu update though ..
[08:41] <Pelo> aoirthoir, clarify your statement,  sites donT, ask for your OS password,  instrucitons from site to do stuff might require you to but not sites themsleves
[08:41] <Pelo> !grub | dromer  try reinstalling grub, instrucons to follow
[08:41] <ubotu> dromer  try reinstalling grub, instrucons to follow: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:41] <aoirthoir> Pelo, if a site gives you instructions on how to download and install their software, they might tell you to run the install as sudo...before you do that you should verify the site.
[08:42] <Pelo> aoirthoir,  much better
[08:42] <aoirthoir> Pelo, and even a site that gives instructions, when it says to use sudo, should only be done by a trusted site.
[08:42] <Znuff> Hi. What will the next version of ubuntu be called?
[08:42] <Beets> shane634: no matter what modelines I insert, it offers the same low res/refresh options in the "Screen Resolution" app
[08:42] <mirf> is there a quick way to autoconfigure my /etc/fstab ?
[08:42] <aoirthoir> Pelo, so essentially any site that tells you to use sudo under any circumstances, should be a trusted place.
[08:42] <shane634> Beets, ok
[08:42] <Pelo> Znuff, gutsy giggon
[08:42] <Znuff> that's funny :>
[08:42] <neverblue> how can I pipe a large (LAN) file from a url and save it locally?
[08:43] <mirf> neverblue, scp
[08:43] <fuzzy_logic> anyone have idea how i can make my own web repositories for apt-get??? please help me!
[08:43] <Beets> shane634: I need to be able to set a usable res, like 1600x1200@75Hz
[08:43] <aoirthoir> neverblue, from CLI type wget http://blabla
[08:43] <Znuff> Beets, nVidia?
[08:43] <mx-zoom> mirf: fstab isn't that hard to configure lol
[08:43] <shane634> Beets, you need to change the res lines to the highest res you can use is all
[08:43] <mirf> mx-zoom, yeah I know
[08:43] <Pelo> aoirthoir,  personnaly I think that anysite asking for you sudo password should not be trusted under any circumstances but that may be just my limited understanding
[08:43] <mirf> mx-zoom, but...
[08:43] <mirf> heh
[08:43] <dbrewer_rjr> Pelo: still the same problem. the changes made to sessions>startup do not take effect until you log in. i will not be in the same facility when this server boots
[08:43] <shane634> Beets, add 1600.1200 on all lines
[08:43] <Beets> shane634: I did that... but it doesn't respect it.
[08:43] <Pelo> fuzzy_logic,  ther are probably some instructions on the ubuntu site
[08:43] <Znuff> Beets, are you on a nVidia card?
[08:44] <aoirthoir> Pelo, i am not talking about sites asking for your password..i am talking about sites that tell you to enter sudo in your terminal. we wouldnt want somebody to type sudo rm bla bla without knowing what they are doing
[08:44] <shane634> beef, 1600x1200
[08:44] <Pelo> aoirthoir, I get you
[08:44] <fuzzy_logic> Pelo: that is what i told too.. but i couldn't find anything
[08:44] <Beets> Znuff: no, Intel GMA 950
[08:44] <shane634> Beets, did you save the file ??
[08:44] <neverblue> scp doesnt do it, but wget does :)
[08:44] <Beets> shane634: yup, naturally :-)
[08:44] <mirf> neverblue, coooool
[08:44] <aoirthoir> neverblue, wget is for websites, scp is for ssh copying.
[08:44] <Pelo> dbrewer_rjr, I've been having problems wth startup myself today,  it might be a problem with that ,  sorry I canT' help further
[08:45] <mirf> neverblue, scp kicks ASS btw
[08:45] <DuckFart> hi. I've been LiveCD testing Ubuntu 7.04. Everything went great until I tried to setup my printer. PC froze instantly, no keyboard or mouse action, but my keyboard LEDs flashed on and off constantly, Anyone got any ideas on that one? Thanks in advance!
[08:45] <Pelo> fuzzy_logic,  look in the how to contribute section ( might be called something else , like get involved)
[08:45] <Znuff> Actually rsync kicks collective ass
[08:45] <aoirthoir> mirf, yes scp is excellent. I love it.
[08:45] <mirf> Znuff, lol
[08:45] <shane634> Beets, for stuff and grins try it again
[08:45] <[GNR] Maxou> est-ce que quelqu'un a deja russi  installer PlaneShift SvP ?
[08:45] <Flannel> fuzzy_logic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalAptGetRepository
[08:45] <Pelo> DuckFart, usb printer keyboard, and mouse ?
[08:45] <Flannel> !fr | [GNR] Maxou
[08:45] <ubotu> [GNR] Maxou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:45] <[GNR] Maxou> may someone help to install PLaneshift on Ubuntu?
[08:45] <[GNR] Maxou> *help me
[08:46] <DuckFart> pelo: no. only printer is USB. Epson CX3600 MFP.
[08:46] <Znuff> [GNR] Maxou, welll, download the binary package first
[08:46] <Pelo> [GNR] Maxou,   demande dans   #ubuntu-fr  y'a du monde en francais
[08:46] <[GNR] Maxou> Znuff> done
[08:46] <sea> Feisty~!
[08:47] <[GNR] Maxou> ouais mais personne ne sait visiblement
[08:47] <Znuff> [GNR] Maxou, did you unpackage it?
[08:47] <aoirthoir> waht is planeshift..everyone keeps talking about it
[08:47] <[GNR] Maxou> Znuff> how can i do it ?
[08:47] <Znuff> aoirthoir, a MMORPG
[08:47] <shane634> aoirthoir, a game
[08:47] <Znuff> [GNR] Maxou, chmod +x file.bin && ./file.bin
[08:47] <aoirthoir> Znuff, ah. ok sounded like something Dungeons and dragonny.
[08:47] <sea> anyone help with gps module nmea protocol for gps drove?
[08:47] <fuzzy_logic> Flannel: i beleive that is only for local repositories.. i would like one for the web.. i already have a server ready for it.. the prob is that it doesn't run ubuntu but mandriva
[08:47] <DuckFart> Pelo: no. only printer is USB. Epson CX3600 MFP.
[08:47] <[GNR] Maxou> Znuff> yeah but it stops briefly
[08:47] <Znuff> [GNR] Maxou, any error?
[08:47] <Pelo> DuckFart, I assume you tried a few times ?  rebooting in between,  menu > system > prefs > removable media,  ther is a  place on the last tab for auto starting usb printers that might do it for you
[08:47] <sea> serial to usb gps from pharos gps
[08:48] <Znuff> [GNR] Maxou, what is the last line?
[08:48] <shane634> Beets, any luck
[08:48] <merc_work> is there a novell client for ubuntu?
[08:48] <[GNR] Maxou> Znuff> erf i don't remember
[08:48] <Znuff> well, do it now and see
[08:48] <[GNR] Maxou> Znuff> i try again and i come back
[08:48] <Znuff> mind staying HERE and trying?
[08:49] <rthompson> tyr what
[08:49] <rthompson> try what
[08:49] <lcphr3ak> Hey, i'm trying to setup proftpd, and i'm getting a 530 error (login). I am behind a router, but everything is forwarded correctly. Can someone take a look? http://lcphr3ak.com/proftpd.conf
[08:49] <shane634> this place rocks lol
[08:49] <rthompson> dont patronize me Znuff
[08:49] <Pelo> merc_work,  what do you mean a novell clent ? novell is another companty all togeter  what program ?
[08:49] <Znuff> rthompson, I wasn't talking to you
[08:49] <[GNR] Maxou> i stay here lol but i minimize
[08:49] <DuckFart> Pelo: didn't see that! i'll give that a try shortly. I'm back on 6.10 at the moment. 7.04 got my sound, nvid card, 'net connection all in one hit, but my printer combo has been a nightmare so far. thanks.
[08:49] <rthompson> oh
[08:49] <merc_work> Pelo, well, i just want to be able to access the novell file server and printers here at work. :
[08:49] <karan> i am unable to view the userlist of channels in xchat-gnome
[08:49] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, exact error message?
[08:50] <Znuff> karan, get xchat not xchat-gnome :P
[08:50] <Flannel> fuzzy_logic: "Local" in that case means "on your computer".  If nothing else, it's extremely similar.
[08:50] <Pelo> merc_work,  I assume you would do that with samba  but I am no expert
[08:50] <merc_work> yeah, i have to authenticate with novell server before i can do anything...
[08:50] <grurf> Hello
[08:50] <grurf> After an upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, the middle mouse button of this computer doesn't function correctly anymore. Scrolling works, but clicking doesn't. Is this a known problem? Any suggestions?
[08:50] <mirf> can anyone reccomend a nice terminal I can stick to my desktop?
[08:51] <Pelo> merc_work, if you know the name of a novell client , you might try looking it up in synaptic,  it you don'T find one there,  and you know of one for linux, you can compile the source
[08:51] <antknight> alt-F7 returns me to X from a virtual desktop.  but it is zoomed.  how can I unzoom?
[08:51] <[GNR] Maxou> Znuff> ok when it stops, konsole says "Erreur de segmentation (core dumped)"
[08:51] <fuzzy_logic> Flannel: ok.. but in the howto it says that i have to install something with apt-get.. i don't think that's possible on mandriva right?
[08:51] <Pelo> !mouse | grurf
[08:51] <ubotu> grurf: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[08:51] <pteron> Anyone know a program like SmartDraw (http://www.smartdraw.com/) for linux?
[08:51] <merc_work> Pelo, the 'official' novell client for linux relies on rpms and stuff, and another unoffical one is just ancient.
[08:51] <grurf> Pelo: ok, will have a look
[08:51] <kazuka> i know this is stupid but is there a way to get vmware to run under ubuntu and use xp as virtual host
[08:52] <Pelo> merc,  it there is a rpm there should be a source,  if not you can install the rpm in ubuntu   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[08:52] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: "530: Login Incorrect"
[08:52] <AD_> hi
[08:52] <Flannel> fuzzy_logic: you're setting up a repository for mandrivia?  Oh, no.  FOR ubuntu, but with mandrivia?
[08:52] <AD_> is there a live distribution that is dedicated to undelete files from the local hard drive?
[08:53] <kazuka> i know this is stupid but is there a way to get vmware to run under ubuntu and use xp as virtual host ?
[08:53] <Pelo> pteron,   openoffice has a chart thing to do stuff like that,  try asking about it in #openoffice.org
[08:53] <syosoft> Hey guys - have a bit of a problem. I followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438543 - had audio, no video, one suggestion to fix it was to install nvidia beta drivers. i did, it worked. I booted up this morning and gdm wouldn't load. i've tried reinstalling nvidia-glx a half dozen times and every time i restart gdm, it fails saying glx isnt found and displays are found but no display config or something...really at 
[08:53] <fuzzy_logic> Flannel: yes.. i use that server not only for that, but also as a mailserver and webserver.. i found mandriva much easier for servers then ubuntu, that's why i don't run ubuntu server.. i think there is a way to do this? right..
[08:53] <fuzzy_logic> ?
[08:54] <Pelo> kazuka, ask in #vmware  and I think you mean xp as client os
[08:54] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, you're not using root to log in, I hope
[08:54] <Flannel> fuzzy_logic: yeah, you'll be able to do it.  Just... need to find instructions
[08:54] <DuckFart> Pelo: cheers for the printer advice. I'm off to play with 7.04. will let you know how i get on later! :)
[08:54] <Znuff> [GNR] Maxou, it's pretty much hopeless then :-/
[08:54] <pteron> Pelo, ok, thx
[08:54] <fuzzy_logic> Flannel: that's why im here :D
[08:54] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: nope, not that stupid :)
[08:54] <Pelo> syosoft, did you simply try the restricted drivers in menu > system > admin ?
[08:55] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, and are you sure you're using your username and password to log in ?
[08:55] <andre> I've got a problem trying to boot my pc
[08:55] <Pelo> andre,  more details
[08:55] <andre> anyone can help?
[08:55] <andre> I talked to you yesterday
[08:55] <syosoft> hrm...where exactly pelo?
[08:55] <andre> pelo
[08:55] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, try loging in to localhost, see if that works
[08:55] <Poll> I heard that Ubuntu is destroying the Internet at http://www.infiltrated.net/ubuntuDestruction.php URL. Is this true?
[08:55] <Pelo> andre,  you 've been here before you knwo how this works,  just ask the question and if someone can help they will,if they donT' ask again later
[08:56] <andre> I can't boot my windows xp properly after I partitioned my HD
[08:56] <aoirthoir> poll yes
[08:56] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: alright, i'll give localhost a try
[08:56] <Pelo> syosoft,  ubuntu menu > system > admin > restricted drivers    in feisty only
[08:56] <Znuff> andre, then you probably messed up the partitioning
[08:56] <Poll> heh
[08:56] <Znuff> Poll, yes, very. It's nuking it to pieces.
[08:56] <LjL> !offtopic | Poll
[08:56] <ubotu> Poll: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:56] <andre> grub appears, and my ubuntu works perfectly, but my Xp doesn't
[08:56] <Pelo> andre,  open up gparted and make sure that the windows partition is still flagged as boot
[08:57] <Poll> I just wanted to ask that.
[08:57] <Poll> Good day, Ubuntu head-in-sand people.
[08:57] <LjL> Poll: it's not an Ubuntu support question.
[08:57] <Flannel> fuzzy_logic: actually, that howto only asks you to apt-get a few things.  You'd just install them however on other systems.  But, I imagine theres a better hwoto out there anyway
[08:57] <aoirthoir> Poll, yo can pm me if you want:)
[08:57] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: hmm, my normal user and the cwinkftp one won't work even on local.
[08:57] <syosoft> any reason i dont see "restricted drivers manager" in admin menu?
[08:57] <andre> it appears on Grub, but when I select it to boot, a message with "xmnt2002 not found" shows up
[08:58] <swmiller6> having a problem when logging in wireless login takes several minutes and until I connect the system is really slow however if I login with the ethernet cable plugged in I login like normal in just a few seconds. anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing thius?
[08:59] <Znuff> swmiller6, probably bad driver
[08:59] <kazim59> hello
[08:59] <Pelo> andre,  do you have your windows cd ?    perform a windows repair install,  http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm  and after you will need to reinstall grub
[08:59] <swmiller6> work fine for months
[08:59] <human> cuz all
[08:59] <[GNR] Maxou> Znuff> can't you help me anymore?
[08:59] <Pelo> andre,  sorry man but I donT' take private messages anymore
[08:59] <Znuff> [GNR] Maxou, not sure what's wrong, core dumped could mean right about anything
[08:59] <spx2> is 94C at CPU OK ?
[08:59] <Pelo> syosoft,  are you using  feisty ?
[09:00] <Znuff> [GNR] Maxou, I suggest having a look at their support forums and see if anyone else had similar problems.
[09:00] <Azrael---> hiya guys!
[09:00] <Znuff> spx2, erm, no
[09:00] <Pelo> syosoft, type  gnome-control-center  in a terminal , it is also there
[09:00] <Flannel> fuzzy_logic: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html  thats probably your best bet
[09:00] <syosoft> yea, just had to install it from a repo....wasnt aware of it's existance.
[09:01] <spx2> Znuff: but acpi says its ok
[09:01] <syosoft> going to restart, hopefully i'll have dualies soon...
[09:01] <fuzzy_logic> Flannel: thanks i will have a look at it
[09:01] <Znuff> Uhm, dude, 94C is _not_ ok
[09:01] <Azrael---> Don't suppose anybody here would know how to downgrade packages from the Feisty version to the Edgy version?
[09:01] <Znuff> spx2, unless the sensors package shows bad info, you should have the computer checked
[09:01] <spx2> fuzzy_logic: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:01] <Azrael---> Could I just change the sources.list to use edgy repos, and then aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg
[09:01] <Znuff> Azrael---, downgrading is not recommended on .deb distros
[09:02] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: I'm all out of ideas
[09:02] <kazim59> i tried to install ubuntu 7.04 on my friends' usb harddisk.... installation was successful... but ubuntu installed GRUB on internal harddisk... after some fiddling.. we were able to install two grub's separately on two harddisks... now ubuntu boots when booting from USB harddisk... but this installation doesn't work on any other PC!
[09:02] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, are you bond to proftpd?
[09:02] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: bond?
[09:02] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, do you have to use proftpd?
[09:02] <fuzzy_logic> spx2: i don't want to add a repository.. i want to start my own
[09:02] <spx2> kazim59: thats because its not supposed to
[09:02] <Azrael---> Znuff: Feisty's broken support for my ATI card's proprietry drivers, now I've got no hardware acceleration.
[09:02] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, I'd suggest another ftp daemon, like pureftpd or vsftpd
[09:03] <haptiK> whoa ubuntu makes jungle noises
[09:03] <Azrael---> I'm going crazy without gaming.
[09:03] <Azrael---> Seriously.
[09:03] <Znuff> Azrael---, oy, atis drivers just suck... on a large scale :-(
[09:03] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: I guess i could, do you have a perfered one?
[09:03] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, I like pureftpd for the simple fact that it supports virtual users out of the box
[09:03] <Azrael---> I know, Znuff. But I've spent all my money on 2 new games for our Wii.
[09:03] <kazim59> spx2: that's what i want to know.. can't i make a usb installation that configures itself everytime it boots to the particular pc configuration!?
[09:03] <Znuff> Play wii! =)
[09:03] <Azrael---> Indeed :)
[09:03] <SecrethX> what chmod should ~ be?
[09:03] <Pelo> later folks
[09:04] <Azrael---> I've got a Sonic game, I've ordered Zelda and Eledees =)
[09:04] <jharr> is there any way to get apt to only use the first IP returned by DNS rather than picking a random one in the list?
[09:04] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: Alrighty, thanks! I'm hoping i'll be able to setup from there
[09:04] <orbisvicis> how can I make ubuntu appear invisible, by blocking ping probes?
[09:04] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, it's pretty straight forward
[09:04] <Rictoo> how do I print an entire text file to command line again?
[09:04] <Azrael---> cat
[09:04] <aoirthoir> Rictoo, cat
[09:04] <Znuff> orbisvicis, that's a bad practice. Don't do that.
[09:04] <Rictoo> <3 thanks
[09:04] <Znuff> or dog
[09:04] <littletank> I need a scanner for work which will work on Feisty. Any ideas please?
[09:04] <Znuff> wich is far better ;)
[09:04] <Znuff> littletank, define scanner
[09:04] <xNinja> hello....i have strange problem...maybe i feel it strange....i have laptop with 2x60gb working as raid 0 by bios raid not linux or windows software raid....and i was having windowsxp home installed and working fine...but after installing ubuntu in the install wizard it did ask me to choose the drive and i did choose one i forget which one exactly 1 or 2....and i have already 6gb free space partition which i make before with partition magic as ex
[09:04] <andre> #ubuntu-br
[09:04] <aoirthoir> Znuff, why is it bad practice?
[09:04] <spx2> kazim59: if you would take a livecd and write to a partition and then make it boot every time
[09:05] <Azrael---> I'm not quite sure whether you're joking r.e. cat and dog.
[09:05] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: alright, great, thanks!
[09:05] <aoirthoir> Azrael---, cat filename. the dog comment was a joke
[09:05] <Znuff> aoirthoir, many services depend on icmp probes
[09:05] <Znuff> actually no
[09:05] <Azrael---> There are so many antonym-named programs, I can't tell.
[09:05] <Znuff> apt-get install dog
[09:05] <aoirthoir> Azrael---, yes I know.
[09:05] <Znuff> and I'm pretty serious
[09:05] <aoirthoir> Znuff, ok. But cat is there already.
[09:05] <ExIG> quick question, I have Epson RX425, ubuntu picks up the card reader, but wont mount anything thats put in it any ideas?
[09:05] <Azrael---> Somebody made more, the next person made less :/
[09:05] <aoirthoir> Azrael---, if you want to scroll use less.
[09:05] <Znuff> yeah, but god is more full featured ;)
[09:05] <Znuff> you can even "dog" urls ;)
[09:05] <kazim59> spx2: but a live cd is different... what if i want to add packages to it? i've to add them everytime?
[09:05] <orbisvicis> bad practice ?
[09:05] <SecrethX> what chmod should ~ be?
[09:06] <Znuff> orbisvicis, many services depend on icmp probes
[09:06] <Azrael---> OK, I'm installing dog now :D
[09:06] <orbisvicis> oh
[09:06] <Znuff> SecrethX, 755
[09:06] <blackdiamond> hi guys, sorry for the stupid question.. what version of gnome is there in Ubuntu 7.04? 2.18? right?
[09:06] <SecrethX> Znuff, thx
[09:07] <Znuff> kazim59, I think there are some howtos about creating your own Ubuntu livecds
[09:07] <aoirthoir> Znuff, dog looks pretty much like cat to me.
[09:07] <SecrethX> Znuff, Im having a strange error on startup: it says that my home should be owned by me, and that .dmrc should be writeble or something (I cant make a screeny)
[09:07] <littletank> I really do need a scanner.
[09:07] <Znuff> aoirthoir, man dog please
[09:07] <olrrai> hi
[09:07] <Azrael---> It's quite obvious who knows what in this channel. I'm picturing #ubuntu in my head; I see Znuff sitting in the middle, 3 miles high.
[09:07] <ExIG> littletank, I use an Epson RX425 all in one printer and scanner and that works really well
[09:08] <Znuff> SecrethX, hmmm, well, what's the user that owns your ~ ?
[09:08] <Flannel> kazim59, Znuff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[09:08] <Znuff> littletank, what kind of scanner
[09:08] <Azrael---> The lesser users are simply standing around in a circle, waiting for their share of knowledge.
[09:08] <kazim59> Znuff: good but... once you've created one as booting from a usb partition... you won't be able to add packages....
[09:08] <SecrethX> Znuff, its named leandro
[09:08] <kazim59> Znuff: is it possible to add?
[09:08] <Znuff> SecrethX, and... it's that correct?
[09:08] <Znuff> kazim59, nope :-/
[09:08] <littletank> I suppose it is called a flat bed scanner
[09:08] <olrrai> hello, I have artsd running but I have gnome, is it normal?
[09:08] <Znuff> littletank, then buy one?
[09:09] <SecrethX> Znuff, yes, so I have no idea why it says that
[09:09] <Znuff> SecrethX, well, what's the owner of that .dmrc file?
[09:09] <kazim59> Znuff: all i wanted is a portable ubuntu!
[09:09] <littletank> I would be delighted to buy one if it would work in Feisty.
[09:09] <Znuff> kazim59, google ;)
[09:09] <Znuff> kazim59, http://ask.metafilter.com/42024/How-to-create-a-customized-portable-Ubuntu-environment
[09:09] <syosoft> Same error - something about glx not loading. gdm failed, had to load basic xorg to get into gnome....any m ore ideas?
[09:09] <SecrethX> Znuff, same, leandro.
[09:09] <kazim59> Znuff: thanks for pointers
[09:10] <Znuff> kazim59, welcomed
[09:10] <Znuff> SecrethX, hmmm, try creating another user and see if it works logging in?
[09:10] <Znuff> kazim59, welcomed
[09:11] <SecrethX> Znuff, k, will do. Oh, before I forget, it also says that my session cant be stored, or something
[09:11] <Znuff> Azrael---, I've been hanging around linux channels too much :P
[09:11] <syosoft> Anyone know how to recover from a botched nvidia beta driver install? can't seem to get glx running now...It worked after i installed it, then shut down, then booted this morning and got gdm errors.
[09:11] <Rex>  I am looking to install ver 2 of thunderbird. I am unable to find how to install it. Anyone able to point me in the right direction? I can only download sources.
[09:11] <syosoft> Rex, pretty sure you just dl and extract it.
[09:11] <PirateHead> Rex: are you unable to compile from source?
[09:11] <fuzzy_logic> Flannel: do you know what the md5sum-thing is in the Packages file of a repository?
[09:11] <Znuff> Rex, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/18/manually-install-thunderbird-2-ubuntu-704/
[09:11] <dbrewer_rjr> i cannot get vnc server to load on bootup
[09:12] <joedaddymac> how do I make a home network with ubuntu?
[09:12] <olrrai> anyone can tell me if has artsd running on gnome?
[09:12] <lethu> fuzzy_logic, that's for checking the files integrity
[09:12] <joedaddymac> I just want to share the internet between two computers.
[09:12] <Znuff> joedaddymac, instal it and ta-da, it's ready :-)
[09:12] <xNinja> hello...
[09:12] <joedaddymac> how?
[09:12] <littletank> I will have to come back another time. Obviously, no one here is interested in scanners.
[09:12] <fuzzy_logic> lethu: is that required?
[09:12] <Znuff> joedaddymac, well, both computers running linux?
[09:12] <Znuff> littletank, google.com/search?q=linux+supported+scanner
[09:12] <Rex> Znuff: thanks... that was the only search string I didn't google... lol
[09:12] <lethu> fuzzy_logic, nop
[09:13] <joedaddymac> xbox running xbmc, and ubuntu linux
[09:13] <fuzzy_logic> lethu: ok thanks
[09:13] <Rex> syosoft: PirateHead: Thanks guys...
[09:13] <littletank> Znuff: Google is no use.
[09:13] <lethu> fuzzy_logic, yw
[09:13] <Znuff> joedaddymac, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[09:13] <Znuff> littletank, hmmm, must be
[09:14] <joedaddymac> great thanxz a bunch! : )
[09:14] <Znuff> littletank, http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/scanners-usb.html
[09:14] <syosoft> So..help? Cant seem to get nvidia drivers to install after following this guide to install beta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296933 and yes, i didnt heed the warnings... :(
[09:14] <littletank> Good bye
[09:14] <SecrethX> Znuff, the error has disappeared. Thanks a lot!
[09:14] <putridp> join #debian
[09:14] <Azrael---> So then, people. How would I go about downgrading X from 7.2 (feisty default) to 7.1 (edgy default)?
[09:15] <Znuff> SecrethX, welcome
[09:15] <xNinja> can someone help me
[09:15] <d2812> Can I install Dapper onto an ext3 hdd, without losing the existing data, as long as there is space?
[09:15] <Znuff> Azrael---, try something like this: http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html
[09:15] <Azrael---> d2812: You'd need to repartition the drive, first.
[09:15] <[GNR] Maxou> xNinja> what's the matter?
[09:15] <Azrael---> OK, Znuff, I will.
[09:15] <ExIG> quick question, I have Epson RX425, ubuntu picks up the card reader, but wont mount anything thats put in it any ideas?
[09:16] <d2812> Azrael---: Thanks.
[09:16] <xNinja> [GNR] Maxou did you see what i wrote ?
[09:16] <Znuff> xNinja, just ask a question! :)
[09:16] <xNinja> Znuff ok then i have to repeat it
[09:16] <[GNR] Maxou> xNinja> no sorry
[09:16] <mirf> I can't mount /dev/sdb1 "special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist" but it's definitely there and ubuntu installer can see it
[09:16] <Znuff> xNinja, your only other line in here was "hello"
[09:16] <xNinja> hello....i have strange problem...maybe i feel it strange....i have laptop with 2x60gb working as raid 0 by bios raid not linux or windows software raid....and i was having windowsxp home installed and working fine...but after installing ubuntu in the install wizard it did ask me to choose the drive and i did choose one i forget which one exactly 1 or 2....and i have already 6gb free space partition which i make before with partition magic as ex
[09:16] <Devyll> is there any way to connect to a ubuntu box from a Windows box via RDP ?
[09:16] <mirf> Devyll: vnc
[09:17] <Znuff> Devyll, rdp, no.
[09:17] <Trynemjoel> Does anyone have experience with the Avant Windows Manager? The Preference and change of icon is unresponsive. Is there something imediate i can do or should i just try a reinstall via aptitude?
[09:17] <Znuff> Devyll, RDP is a proprietary protocol. No servers for linux unfortunatelly.
[09:17] <Devyll> Znuff thanks
[09:17] <Pelo> Trynemjoel, try kxdockers instead or there is also an evolution doc bar
[09:17] <cyber_brain_mfkg> pidgin(x gaim) requires some SSL librarys for MSN acc! what files do i need???
[09:17] <soundray> Devyll: you could look into vnc, though
[09:17] <Vousi> Hi, what is the way to see shared files from linux to windows 2003 using command line?
[09:17] <xNinja> Znuff did you see my msg ?
[09:17] <mardukblue> alguien habla espaol?
[09:17] <Pelo> Trynemjoel,  I mean an enligthenment doc
[09:18] <Vousi> mardukblue: Yo castellano ...
[09:18] <Znuff> xNinja, yeah
[09:18] <SirBob1701> is there a main menu access plugin for gnome so it acts like Enlightenment?
[09:18] <soundray> !es | mardukblue
[09:18] <ubotu> mardukblue: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:18] <Vousi> no Espaol ...
[09:18] <PirateHead> !es | markukblue
[09:18] <Znuff> Vousi, smbclient
[09:18] <ubotu> markukblue: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:18] <Trynemjoel> I'll give it a go, thanks Pelo
[09:18] <Pelo> !es | mardukblue
[09:18] <Znuff> SirBob1701, you can install enlightenment
[09:18] <Vousi> Znuff: wich syntax?
[09:18] <Znuff> Vousi, man smbclient :-)
[09:18] <zambaroo> hi guys
[09:18] <xNinja> so can someone help ?
[09:18] <PirateHead> Hey zambaroo.
[09:18] <mardukblue> gracias
[09:18] <PirateHead> no problemo mardukeblue
[09:18] <zambaroo> vnc does not show me the desktop panels
[09:18] <zambaroo> just the background
[09:19] <cyber_brain_mfkg> pidgin(x gaim) requires some SSL librarys for MSN acc! what files do i need???someone :(
[09:19] <zambaroo> has anyone seen this?
[09:19] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ??
[09:19] <Znuff> zambaroo, that's because you're using it wrong.
[09:19] <Pelo> xNinja,  state your problem if someone can help they will try
[09:19] <zambaroo> Znuff, please elaborate
[09:19] <soundray> zambaroo: did you configure the server through vino-preferences?
[09:19] <PirateHead> !help
[09:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:19] <Znuff> SirBob1701, please don't msg me. I can barely keep up here :)
[09:19] <zambaroo> soundray, no, i did not, will do. thatnks.
[09:19] <SirBob1701> lol k
[09:19] <Znuff> zambaroo, well, you probably want x11vnc, not vnc
[09:19] <Pelo> cyber_brain_mfkg,  do you get an error msg telling you which file ?  look for them in synaptic
[09:19] <PirateHead> !private | SirBob1701
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about private - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <soundray> Znuff: don't you agree he wants vino most likely?
[09:20] <Znuff> zambaroo, vnc by default doesn't attach to your already-running session or environment unless you tell it
[09:20] <SirBob1701> ah
[09:20] <PirateHead> !pm
[09:20] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[09:20] <PirateHead> That would be the one.
[09:20] <SirBob1701> was wondering how that worked for a while just took a shot in the dark lol
[09:20] <SirBob1701> !private SirBob1701 test
[09:20] <xNinja> ok 1 question: can ubuntu or any other OS damage the bios raid or which they call it hardware raid?
[09:20] <zambaroo> Znuff, so this is client side?
[09:20] <Znuff> zambaroo, no, server side
[09:20] <LjL> !bot > SirBob1701    (SirBob1701, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:21] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Pelo: nope!it just says:"SSL support is needed for MSN.Please install a supported SSL library."
[09:21] <Pelo> xNinja, do a search in the forums
[09:21] <Znuff> soundray, sorry, not familiar with vino
[09:21] <Znuff> cyber_brain_mfkg, you need libssl
[09:21] <grurf> Hello, I'm back again
[09:21] <Znuff> cyber_brain_mfkg, or probably some gaim-ssl package
[09:21] <abo> is there a script or program that can, copy a image containing text and paste it as text characters corresponding to the text in the image? .. it shouldn't be hard to write combining the copy and the ocr applications..
[09:21] <grurf> The middle mouse button still doesn't work
[09:21] <EADG02> Can I mount a HDD using a Kubuntu Dapper live cd on a Win XP box? I need to retrieve a file.
[09:22] <Pelo> cyber_brain_mfkg,  menu >system > admin > synaptic package manager >   search for   msn and ssl, together or seperately, see what comes up, also try looking in the forum for a solution
[09:22] <Znuff> abo, nope
[09:22] <grurf> It doesn't even generate an event when testing it with xev
[09:22] <travel> Whats the command to see processes that are running on my machine
[09:22] <abo> Znuff, wow, you sound so sure
[09:22] <soundray> zambaroo: most easily accessed through System-Preferences-Remote Desktop (this is on the server side)
[09:22] <EADG02> travel: top
[09:22] <Znuff> abo, I'm pretty sure nobody ever needed that :-)
[09:22] <putridp> 20:22    math_b [n=mathieu@vbo91-2-82-239-207-88.fbx.proxad.net]  quits ("Ex-Chat")
[09:22] <nuked_omen> cyber_brain_mfkg: what are you trying to do?
[09:22] <linxuz3r> anyone have installed vmware successfully in fiesty fawn?
[09:22] <Pelo> grurf,  check the forum for more info try searching your mouse model
[09:23] <Azrael---> OK then, people!
[09:23] <abo> Znuff, I do :) if no one did it, I'll start the project on sourceforge :P
[09:23] <nuked_omen> ahmed:
[09:23] <zambaroo> soundray, im running it from the command line (ssh -X -C)
[09:23] <syosoft> i did an upgrade to feisty w/ vmware installed just had to run the config again and it's been smooth sailing...
[09:23] <Pelo> linux_stu, many I would assume  try asking for help in #vmware
[09:23] <travel> EADG02, what about programs running in the background?
[09:23] <Znuff> abo, be my guest. I know I searched for something similar ages ago
[09:23] <nuked_omen> Azrael---: where did you get that name from?
[09:23] <Azrael---> I'm about to downgrade my X server - one of the most dangerous Ubuntu-related stunts ever!
[09:23] <Azrael---> nuked_omen: I dunno.
[09:23] <Znuff> Azrael---, you'll break it.
[09:23] <Azrael---> Znuff: If I can't frag, it's already broken afaik.
[09:23] <nuked_omen> Azrael---: in arabic, this is the name of the death angel, one that takes lives
[09:23] <bbrazil> Azrael---: eh, no. That'd be downgrading libc
[09:24] <EADG02> travel: top shows all iirc. You can also use 'ps -e |less'
[09:24] <soundray> zambaroo: vino-preferences then ;)
[09:24] <nuked_omen> Azrael---: na mean?
[09:24] <Azrael---> I know, nuked_omen.
[09:24] <Pelo> Azrael---,   remember you break it you bought it
[09:24] <Azrael---> I didn't buy it.
[09:24] <linxuz3r> thanks ill try
[09:24] <cyber_brain_mfkg> nuked_omen: i installed pidgin and Yahoo acc works just fine but MSN requires SSL support!!!
[09:24] <linxuz3r> if not then
[09:24] <linxuz3r> i dont know
[09:24] <zambaroo> soundray, yep, it's not too happy though. trying w/ -alwaysshared
[09:24] <Vousi> Znuff: to use a shared files I need to use smbclient too?
[09:24] <Azrael---> I know! I'll just downgrade my WHOLE SYSTEM back to edgy!
[09:24] <Znuff> Vousi, define use
[09:25] <nuked_omen> cyber_brain_mfkg: i see.. i use gaim 2 and i don't have problems connecting
[09:25] <Azrael---> Feisty hasn't fixed any problems for me...
[09:25] <abo> Znuff, ah... so some ppl would need that after all ;) anyway I've seen software much less usefull :) .. thx anyway
[09:25] <zambaroo> soundray, ah, worked :)
[09:25] <SirBob1701> wow factoids just kinda splats everything at ya
[09:25] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: i've got everything running on pureftp, but can't find a config to set port. From what the website says, there is no config. Is there somewhere i can put the port command in the init.d pure-ftpd script?
[09:25] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, hmmm, not having a running pure-ftpd right now. Wait a sec and I'll tell you
[09:25] <cyber_brain_mfkg> nuked_omen: i did't had any problems few days agu but i've installed pidgin(gaim 2.0)
[09:25] <Vousi> Znuff: like \\sharedfile under windows
[09:25] <cyber_brain_mfkg> *ago
[09:26] <Znuff> Vousi, you mean \\machine\share\file :)
[09:26] <Vousi> yes
[09:26] <Znuff> Vousi, you'll have to mount it to be able to use it
[09:26] <Vousi> how to do it?
[09:26] <Vousi> with mount command??
[09:26] <soundray> zambaroo: good. With the basic vnc server, you would have had to run gnome-session and various other bits. vino is a bit more straightforward to use.
[09:26] <Znuff> Vousi, apt-get install smbmount
[09:26] <Vousi> ok
[09:26] <Neil-> having some probs with a prog due to dbus...
[09:26] <Vousi> I have smbmount I think
[09:27] <Neil-> is there a way to force it to restart to see if it helps?
[09:27] <Znuff> Vousi, then man smbmount and it should be straight forward
[09:27] <belfegor> on my network device is written loopback  interface (lo) not eth0 and i dont have permisions to modify
[09:27] <Znuff> Neil-, /etc/init.d/dbus restart I think
[09:27] <Azrael---> grr!
[09:27] <Neil-> thanks
[09:27] <EADG02> Can I mount a HDD using a Kubuntu Dapper live cd on a Win XP box? I need to retrieve a file.
[09:27] <soundray> !info smbmount
[09:27] <ubotu> Package smbmount does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:27] <Znuff> belfegor, lo is loopback
[09:27] <Azrael---> Nothing's happending!
[09:27] <soundray> !info smbfs
[09:27] <Znuff> !info smbfs
[09:27] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 416 kB, installed size 972 kB
[09:27] <Azrael---> I'm tempted to backup my ~ dir to my iPod.
[09:27] <Azrael---> And just reinstall Edgy.
[09:27] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: alrighty :)
[09:28] <Znuff> Azrael---, would save you the pain :)
[09:28] <belfegor> ok and i select eth0...and it return to loopback again
[09:28] <Azrael---> I'm gonna do more research into the problem, see if there's any way to get fglrx and X 7.2 to stop picking on my radeon 9200.
[09:28] <soundray> EADG02: yes. 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt' (substitute the partition device name)
[09:28] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Znuff: Pelo: i've installed libssl 9.7 and 9.8 and libssl-dev and -dbg files but nothing helps!:(!there are no gaim-ssl or such thing!!!
[09:29] <heroin> how do i mount a harddrive?
[09:29] <Pelo> Azrael---,  for future use just put your /home folder on a seperate partition , it will save you the trouble of backing it up when reinstalling
[09:29] <EADG02> soundray: thanks a ton.
[09:29] <Pelo> cyber_brain_mfkg,  look up the error msg in the forums,   www.ubuntuforums.com
[09:29] <eletido> Pelo: is it possible to do that after install?
[09:30] <Rex> have a good day everyone... thanks for the help.
[09:30] <Pelo> eletido, yes but a bit more complex
[09:30] <eletido> Pelo: ok, thanks.
[09:30] <soundray> heroin: one partition at a time, with 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt' with /dev/hda1 being the partition device name
[09:30] <Pelo> elekfs,  you ll be doing it from the live cd
[09:30] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, uhm, why are you changing port, btw?
[09:30] <scott-> sorry
[09:30] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: I don't want it to be the default 21
[09:30] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, if you're going to forward it anyway
[09:31] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, you can forward the external port 9999 to internal 21, you know? :)
[09:31] <mrcreativity> id like to install google earth on my ubuntu installation,
[09:31] <mrcreativity> can someone help me?
[09:31] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: ... ohh crap, i forgot. Lol, thanks!
[09:31] <Crane_> what a day
[09:31] <linux_stu> is it possible to boot into an ubuntu partition using either an ubuntu livecd or an ubuntu alternate cd?
[09:32] <Azzuron> Wow there are alot of peoples in this channel :)
[09:32] <soundray> mrcreativity: http://debian.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/google/
[09:32] <Znuff> lcphr3ak, and read about Virtual Users if you want to give users only ftp access, /usr/share/doc/pure-ftpd/README.Virtual-Users.gz
[09:32] <Pelo> linux_stu,  you can boot the live cd and mount the partition afterward
[09:32] <linux_stu> ok
[09:32] <linux_stu> the livecd won't boot
[09:32] <linux_stu> btw
[09:32] <linux_stu> is it possible to do it with the ubuntu alternate cd?
[09:32] <Pelo> linux_stu,  try the laternate install cd
[09:33] <navets> does anyone here know if you have to have a mac to run a virtual mac os on linux or can you do it with a pc
[09:33] <Azzuron> Anyone know if there are apt-get issues with the security.ubuntu.com servers? i keep getting no route errors
[09:33] <Azrael---> :/ Ubuntu just questioned me about the certificate of ubuntu.com...
[09:33] <Pelo> linux_stu,  the partition thing ?  yes but it will be text based I can't realy navigate you trhough it
[09:33] <orbisvicis> aunes, were you asking about that ugly enlarging square effect in ubuntu ?
[09:33] <linux_stu> i think i can figure out how to do it
[09:33] <zoohouse> I am having trouble getting the outside world to see my vncserver... I have my computer connected directly to my DSL modem and using firestarter, I have the firewall disabled. Yet I can't connect to my vncserver using my public ip yet my local ip works fine. when I use canyouseeme.org it say "connection timed out" What may be wrong?
[09:33] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: alright, thanks for all your help!
[09:33] <orbisvicis> in ubuntu-effects
[09:34] <mrcreativity> ty
[09:34] <Znuff> zoohouse, tell firestarter to allow ports 5900-5910
[09:34] <[spy] > depends on what you mean by "learn"
[09:34] <nano_> hola
[09:34] <Pelo> linux_stu,  basicaly,  you'll be rezising your current linux partiton,   creating a new one from the unallocated space,   then you copy you /home folder over to the new partiton and chage fstab to mount  the new partition to /home
[09:34] <[spy] > er, wrong window
[09:34] <neverblue> zoohouse, can you port scan your system?
[09:34] <zoohouse> Znuff: ok
[09:34] <nuked_omen> hola amigos
[09:34] <aoirthoir> zoohouse, also are you logged into the computer that is running vncserver. by default it does not allow you to vnc in unless you are logged in.
[09:35] <nuked_omen> gracie senior
[09:35] <zoohouse> aoirthoir: i am logged, yes
[09:35] <yuno> hi, i was wondering if anyone could help me install my Visiontek ATI x1300 PCI i am having some trouble
[09:36] <olrrai> how can I unninstall arts ?
[09:36] <Pelo> !ati | yuno
[09:36] <ubotu> yuno: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:36] <neverblue> !arts
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <Pelo> olrray sudo apt-get remove package name
[09:37] <linxuz3r> is there a new cd release of ubuntu?
[09:37] <Pelo> yuno,  if you have any specific issues feel free to ask
[09:37] <soundray> olrrai: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove arts'
[09:37] <Neil-> Anyone here use songbird?
[09:37] <yuno> Pelo: i've done this but X-server crashes and i can't get into ubuntu
[09:37] <Neil-> Does it have a visualisation thing at all?
[09:37] <Pelo> linxuz3r,  the current is  fiesty fawn  7.04
[09:37] <linxuz3r> anyone is there a new cd release of ubuntu?
[09:37] <zoohouse> Znuff: where do I add the ports on firestarter? the policy only adds hosts/ip
[09:37] <brianski> does anyone actually use epiphany?
[09:37] <Znuff> zoohouse, I honestly have no idea. Haven't used firestarter.
[09:37] <linxuz3r> are all the cd release the same or some have different files in it
[09:37] <linxuz3r> same inside
[09:37] <Pelo> yuno,    when you boot to the command line    sudo dkpg-reconfigre xserver-xorg
[09:37] <soundray> brianski: yes, people who think firefox is bloated.
[09:38] <olrrai> Pelo: I try that, but /bin/artsd still running
[09:38] <zoohouse> Znuff: firestarter is disabled anyway.... though...
[09:38] <Znuff> linxuz3r, last release is 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[09:38] <Znuff> zoohouse, perhaps your ADSL modem/router whatever has a firewall?
[09:38] <brianski> soundray: do you use it, out of curiosity?
[09:38] <sjoerd_> hi everyone
[09:38] <feliciano> Hi, its possible install ubuntu and xubuntu in diferent partitions using the same swap partition for both?????
[09:38] <soundray> brianski: no :)
[09:38] <Pelo> linxuz3r,   all the same but on the off chance that a beta is still lingering in torrent land get it from the site
[09:38] <neverblue> linxuz3r, what is the point?
[09:38] <Znuff> feliciano, yes
[09:38] <Pelo> !torrents
[09:38] <sjoerd_> hello im new
[09:38] <olrrai> I try sudo apt-get --purge remove arts, but /bin/artsd still running
[09:38] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[09:38] <orbisvicis> what is wrong: make putty forward 5801->5801 & 5901->5901 for remote administration doesnt work? ... firefox doesnt get forwarded
[09:39] <zoohouse> Znuff: I have IP passthrough turned on.. it should let everything in right?
[09:39] <Pelo> olrrai,   sudo killall artsd
[09:39] <soundray> sjoerd_: ask a support question, or join #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[09:39] <Znuff> zoohouse, I'm not sure... could be
[09:39] <Znuff> zoohouse, I wouldn't know how your modem behaves :)
[09:39] <Pelo> sjoerd,  welcome to the madhouse,  how can we help you today ?
[09:39] <feliciano> Znuff, and I dont going to have any problem?
[09:39] <linxuz3r> now i am waiting for ubuntu to install
[09:39] <Znuff> feliciano, none so ever
[09:40] <da_> hello guys
[09:40] <Pelo> hello da
[09:40] <tgm4883> feliciano, znuff, only if you use hibernation
[09:40] <olrrai> ok. restart
[09:40] <feliciano> tgm4883... how is that??
[09:41] <mrcreativity> where can i find realplayer for ubuntu please?
[09:41] <soundray> mrcreativity: did you get my earlier response?
[09:41] <Pelo> !realplayer | mrcreativity
[09:41] <ubotu> mrcreativity: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:41] <tgm4883> feliciano, hibernation suspends your session in swap, if you go into hibernation on one partition, then go use the other partition it will get rid of your previous session
[09:41] <feliciano> tgm4883... what is that about hibernation??
[09:42] <tgm4883> feliciano, see above
[09:42] <feliciano> I see
[09:42] <mrcreativity> someone gave me a link with a package for ubuntu once, i cant seem to find it
[09:42] <tgm4883> feliciano, otherwise no problems
[09:42] <Pelo> mrcreativity, it was in the links I gave you , it's on the first page I think
[09:42] <tgm4883> feliciano, also no problems if you hibernate and return to the same partition
[09:42] <da_> can anyone tell me how i can boot up windows again without uninstalling ubuntu?#
[09:42] <feliciano> tgm4883... do you mean about hibernation when I going to shotdown??? this hibernation??
[09:42] <bilbowf1> Hey, i have a problem with Plustek OptikPro on Ubuntu 7.04. The scanner is detected by XSane but after warm up the lamp goes out and then begins the scan and I get an I-O-Error. Have someone an idea?
[09:43] <LjL> !dualboot > da_    (da_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:43] <bbrazil> da_: reboot, windows should be an option in the grub menu
[09:43] <tWs_Mortorojo> Can anybody help me figure out y ubuntu wont boot off disk
[09:43] <linxuz3r> da_: you need to recover the mbr
[09:43] <Pelo> da_,  did you install over your windows ?  no then   when you boot wait around for the boot menu there should be an entry for windows, usualy aat the bottom
[09:43] <tgm4883> feliciano, if you do shutdown>shutdown your fine, if you do shutdown>hibernate then you cannot go into the other partition
[09:43] <da_> its not there m8
[09:43] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,  which disk ?
[09:43] <soundray> linxuz3r: no
[09:44] <Znuff> tgm4883, I don't think hibernation has anything to do with the swap partition
[09:44] <da_> 3 grub options only
[09:44] <tWs_Mortorojo> im a nub at linux what u mean by wich disk
[09:44] <Pelo> da_,  is windows still on your comptuer ?
[09:44] <soundray> da_: is Windows on the first partition of your hard disk?
[09:44] <Azzuron> how do you get the version of ubuntu from a LTS server?
[09:44] <SurfnKid> hi guys, how can I change the footer server name on apache 2 to remove (Ubuntu) on it
[09:44] <feliciano> tgm4883... I understand now... I never use hibernation... then I dont having problems
[09:44] <SurfnKid> is there a file i could edit
[09:44] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,  hard disk  ? floppy ? cd ? usb externalt ?
[09:44] <mrcreativity> actually, it was a link to a deb packaged real player
[09:45] <Pelo> mrcreativity, look at the links I gave you earlier there is a link the r to a page wher you can dl realplayer from and install it
[09:45] <Znuff> SurfnKid, nope
[09:45] <SurfnKid> Znuff, youre kidding
[09:45] <mrcreativity> thanks
[09:45] <SurfnKid> :/
[09:45] <SurfnKid> :\
[09:45] <Znuff> SurfnKid, no
[09:45] <Luuna_> hilts50, is there any programmer who can explain to me how to link gtk lib in eclipse plz?
[09:45] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,  I donT take private msg from  ppl I donT' know  please talk to me in the channel
[09:45] <SurfnKid> k
[09:45] <tWs_Mortorojo> k
[09:46] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,  what is the problem you are having ?
[09:46] <tgm4883> znuff, I thought hibernation suspended the session to swap(disk) while sleep suspended to ram?
[09:46] <mirf> when I try to mount sdb I get "special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist" but fstab shows it
[09:46] <mirf> what's up with that?
[09:46] <Znuff> tgm4883, swap has nothing to do with it
[09:46] <serage> hey
[09:47] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: I hate to bother you again, but it's boggling my mind. I can log in locally to the ftp server fine. But when i try outside of the router, it doesn't let me login.
[09:47] <soundray> mirf: try 'sudo fdisk -l' to see what the block device names of the available partitions are.
[09:47] <Znuff> tgm4883, what if the user DOESN'T have a swap partition? or the swap partition is smaller than the user's memory
[09:47] <LjL> mirf: ehm, fstab only shows what's been put in it. it's just a config file. if mount says it doesn't exist, it most likely doesn't exist.
[09:47] <pjman> My USB hard drive is getting I/O errors on a fresh Feisty install. The USB drive works fine under the LiveCD. Does anyone have any ideas?
[09:47] <Pelo> mirf, check in gparted to make sure you have the correct devtree
[09:47] <lcphr3ak> Znuff: Or it hangs
[09:47] <LjL> Znuff: then hibernation fails
[09:47] <tgm4883> znuff, no hibernation
[09:47] <soundray> da_: have you figured it out?
[09:47] <Pelo> pjman,  check the forum for your exact error msg
[09:47] <LjL> Znuff: which is why the user *should* have a swap partition and it should be at least as big as the RAM.
[09:47] <tgm4883> LjL, beat me to it
[09:47] <Znuff> LjL, that's nonsense.
[09:48] <Znuff> LjL, if I have 4GB of ram there wouldn't be the need for a 4GB swap partition.
[09:48] <serage> who is playing her et?
[09:48] <da_> its on a different drive
[09:48] <tWs_Mortorojo> when i enter the menu and then try to boot of the disk it eventually gets to something that says something about drivers then it just starts to show something like this [ 100.00]  and the number begins to grow
[09:48] <wedgeV> i cant print in gimp... my printer is setup fine. and other applications can print. but in gimp it wont let me select my printer... and in the setup printer dialog in the gimp print window my printer isnt supported
[09:48] <pjman> Pelo: I don't know what you mean by check the forum... I have a thread opened but no one has replied. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=449562
[09:48] <LjL> Znuff: no, yours is nonsense. please read about swapping on linux. do you have more RAM than you have HD space? no, i guess not. then swap space *is* useful.
[09:48] <mirf> Pelo, gparted says its' not there
[09:48] <mirf> oh wait
[09:48] <mirf> yeah it is
[09:49] <mirf> ! next to the /edv/sdb1
[09:49] <Toruko> hi
[09:49] <da_> hello m8
[09:49] <Pelo> pjman,  use the search feature to search for the error msg for otther ppl with the same problem and the replys they got with the fixes they tried
[09:49] <Pelo> mirf,   sudo apt-get install gparted
[09:49] <mirf> I have gparted
[09:49] <da_> windows is on a different drive from ubuntu
[09:50] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,  you're not giving me much to go on ,  have you ever sucessfully started ubuntu from your hdd ?
[09:50] <soundray> da_: please use my nick so I don't miss your messages. How many drives do you have in total?
[09:50] <mirf> Pelo, even gparted says "open /dev/sdb1:No such file or directory"
[09:50] <tWs_Mortorojo> no becasue i cant even get to the install from th ecd
[09:50] <LjL> Znuff, for starters, i just told you that without as much swap space as you have RAM, hibernation doesn't work, which was the thing we were talking about i think. so my implication that people should have it is valid.   secondly, Linux is aggressive with file caching: if it thinks it needs RAM for file caching, and there are processes in RAM that have been idle for long, then it'll swap out those processes and use the RAM as file cache. that works (and
[09:50] <LjL> improves performance, provided that the kernel makes the right "guesses") even if you have 32 gigs of RAM. as long as you've got more than 32 gigs of HD space.
[09:51] <Pelo> mirf,  if you in gparted select the partiton in the list , right click info for the meaning of the !
[09:51] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,  haaaaaaaaaa
[09:51] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo, fist thing,   from the bot menu run the cd integrity check
[09:51] <pjman> Pelo: is this a common problem? I have searched the forum to no avail.
[09:51] <da_> sound i have two drives
[09:51] <tWs_Mortorojo> i have it says its fine
[09:51] <mirf> Pelo, the problem is the device does not exist
[09:51] <mirf> Pelo, but it's there
[09:51] <tWs_Mortorojo> ie also ran a memory test
[09:52] <soundray> da_: do you know how to edit a system file?
[09:52] <tWs_Mortorojo> ive*
[09:52] <kaostikone> can anyone recommend a good room other than #html those people dont help for nothing
[09:52] <orbisvicis> is anyone familiar with tunneling ssh on putty ?
[09:52] <da_> soundray no
[09:52] <Znuff> LjL, suspend2 doesn't need a swap partition. It can use a swap-file too.
[09:52] <LjL> !offtopic | kaostikone
[09:52] <ubotu> kaostikone: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:52] <Pelo> pjman,  you'Ve hardlybeen gone 5 minustes you can'T have searched that much,  try searching for usb i/o problemes or other possible keywords,  show some initiative
[09:52] <Pelo> mirf,  what kind of hdd is ths ?  ;internatl , external ?
[09:53] <soundray> da_: open a terminal and run 'gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst', then go to the end of the file.
[09:53] <LjL> Znuff: i don't think we have suspend2 in the kernel... anyway sure, i was thinking about swap in general, not partition vs file.
[09:53] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,  you need to run the cd integrity check to make sure the cd is ok ,  and please use my nick when talking to me I,m helping 3 ppl at once here
[09:53] <tatters> I read id software runs nativly on linux, soooooo if I downloaded a cracked doom3 for testing purposes will this run?
[09:53] <soundray> da_: do you see a line containing ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST ?
[09:53] <kaostikone> ljl i am aware that it is off topic... but this is the only room i've seen people actually talking in ... and i am comfortable to talk in please dont state the obvious.....
[09:53] <Znuff> tatters, provided you download a linux binary for it, it should
[09:53] <da_> soundray can you do 1 to 1
[09:53] <Pelo> kaostikone,  look for a channel for whatever language you are using
[09:53] <Crane_> tatters: try teh demo
[09:53] <mirf> Pelo, internal sata
[09:54] <tWs_Mortorojo> Pelo, Ive ran a CD integrity check, and ive also ran a memory test to
[09:54] <Znuff> tatters, but you need to _install_ it. Thus a "cracked" version might not work
[09:54] <soundray> da_: yeah, #ubuntu-classroom please
[09:54] <LjL> kaostikone: if it's obvious, then why are you ignoring it? there is people on #ubuntu-offtopic. they often talk. and if you ask your offtopic question there, you won't annoy the 1313 people here who actually are here for Ubuntu support.
[09:54] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo, what video card do you have on this computer ?
[09:54] <pjman> Pelo: I've been working on this problem for going on three weeks now. I've been on this IRC channel multiple times over the past two weeks. No one has a clue to my problem. I keep checking back every couple of days hoping someone will have some ideas.
[09:54] <boxrock> can someone help me get flash video like youtube working in fiesty?
[09:54] <Pelo> mirf,  have you ever been able to acess this hdd from ubuntu ?
[09:54] <tWs_Mortorojo> Pelo, Redeon 9200
[09:54] <brianski> LjL: 1313  ?
[09:54] <LjL> brianski: now 1311
[09:55] <kaostikone> thank ljl ...
[09:55] <Pelo> pjman, that was the best I could do for you sorry  maybe there is a problem with your disk istelf, try it on a different computer
[09:55] <kaostikone> ] ...
[09:55] <brianski> is that supposed to be a corruption of elite via leet?
[09:55] <mirf> Pelo, yes last night with the live cd I copied 150gb of data to it
[09:55] <LjL> brianski: no, it's supposed to be a number.
[09:55] <da_> how do i get in ubuntu classroom
[09:55] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,   that's the problem  ati doesn'T support  linux much,  but you can still intall ubuntu,  you'll need to use the alternate isntall cd
[09:55] <LjL> da_: /join #ubuntu-classroom
[09:55] <soundray> da_: enter /join #ubuntu-classroom
[09:55] <Pelo> !alternate > tWs_Mortorojo  check pm for a msg from ubuntu
[09:56] <brianski> LjL: oh! :)
[09:56] <mrcreativity> im sorry, but i cant find a link for real player
[09:56] <Pelo> mirf,  what format is this hdd ? what file system ?
[09:56] <boxrock> youtube video on fiesty hangs after a couple seconds of video play, anyone have any ideas?
[09:56] <tyranos> hello everyone
[09:56] <Crane_> What is ubuntu classroom channel for?
[09:56] <Znuff> boxrock, maybe it's buffering?
[09:56] <pjman> Pelo: Thanks for taking a look. The drive itself is fine. It works fine under Windows and Ubuntu Feisty Live CD. Something is different between the way Ubuntu handles USB drives from the Live CD and a full installation.
[09:56] <mirf> Pelo, win95 lba
[09:56] <Pelo> mrcreativity, google realplayer linux
[09:56] <LjL> !classroom > Crane_    (Crane_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:56] <brianski> boxrock: are you using flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:56] <ariel> hey I need some help
[09:56] <brianski> !seveas
[09:56] <LjL> !ask
[09:56] <HaRDaWaY> hi
[09:56] <wedgeV> i cant print in gimp... my printer is setup fine. and other applications can print. but in gimp it wont let me select my printer... and in the setup printer dialog in the gimp print window my printer isnt supported
[09:56] <brianski> hrm....
[09:56] <tgm4883> !classroom > tgm4883
[09:57] <brianski> !seveas >brianski
[09:57] <Pelo> pjman,  I assume you have tried restarting the comp?  how do other usb mass storage devices do ?
[09:57] <LjL> the bot is lagging, please just be patient until it responds
[09:57] <tgm4883> well it was worth a shot
[09:57] <da_> no idea how to enter ubuntu classroom/
[09:57] <tgm4883> ah
[09:57] <mrcreativity> i have to download a .bin file,
[09:57] <Crane_> LOL ubotu did not message me
[09:57] <LjL> Crane_, see what i said just above
[09:57] <Znuff> da_, just double click the channel name: #ubuntu-classroom
[09:57] <Azrael---> brb.
[09:57] <Pelo> wedgeV, try asking in #gimp or checking the printer model in the forums
[09:57] <ariel> maybe you can remember me how to config the ipadrees of my net
[09:58] <Crane_> LjL: Sorry
[09:58] <Znuff> da_, or, right click it and select Join channel
[09:58] <boxrock> brianski: i think i installed flash from prowser prompt, how should i have done it?
[09:58] <tyranos> i m on edgy and my mplayer crashes  sometimes   and i have to hard reset can someone help me locate the source of the error
[09:58] <Znuff> boxrock, oh, that doesn't work under linux
[09:58] <brianski> boxrock: you want to get the flashplugin-nonfree from seveas' repository
[09:58] <brianski> that way you have support for flash9
[09:58] <pjman> Pelo: Yes, I have tired restarting the computer. You need to restart to use the Live CD :-) My USB memory stick works fine on this machine.
[09:58] <tWs_Mortorojo> Pelo, check my pm??
[09:58] <boxrock> seveas'? how?
[09:59] <brianski> seveas.imbrandon.com
[09:59] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,  check the private msg windows on your clients,  you just got a msg from ubotu with instructions about the alternate install cd
[09:59] <Znuff> boxrock, uhm, just enable the non-free repository under Synaptic
[09:59] <Znuff> and install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:59] <pjman> Pelo: I've narrowed it down to software. The hard drive is fine. It works fine when I boot up with the Live CD. Something is different from the Live CD and the actual install - I just don't know what
[09:59] <da_> what am i right clicking on
[09:59] <brianski> oh is flashplugin-nonfree in multiverse now?
[09:59] <boxrock> how can i uninstall other flash?
[09:59] <Pelo> mirf,  ok sorry I missed your last reply,  I assume you have windows 95 installed on that partiton ? does it boot  ? is there anything else on that hdd ?
[09:59] <tWs_Mortorojo> Pelo, sorry but i never got one.
[10:00] <Seveas> brianski, has been for a while
[10:00] <Znuff> brianski, yes, it's in feisty
[10:00] <Pelo> pjman,  I wouldnT' think so
[10:00] <soundray> da_: forget clicking. Can you PLEASE just type /join #ubuntu-classroom
[10:00] <Pelo> !alternate | tWs_Mortorojo
[10:00] <brianski> nice
[10:00] <soundray> da_: where you type your replies
[10:00] <pjman> Pelo: either would I...
[10:00] <Crane_> lol
[10:00] <mirf> Pelo, I just formatted it that way with cfdisk just has a load of data on it
[10:01] <brianski> ah new version of xmoto, i keep :)
[10:01] <Seveas> brianski, w32codecs?
[10:01] <dbrewer_rjr> i think i just blew up my feisty install. where are the files that govern session>startup? i am recursively starting vncserver
[10:01] <avertv-cardbus> hi there! i am a complete newbie and installed ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop. Everything works ok except my tv tuner avermedia avertv cardbus model E501R
[10:01] <Pelo> tWs_Mortorojo,  apparently the bot is lagging a bit,  you can download the alternate install cd fom the www.ubuntu.com site it is text based and install a vesa driver until you can get a proer driver for your dard
[10:01] <praecox> hey guys
[10:01] <tri3axe> how to i make a new user with home dir in /var/www/? using ubuntu server install btw
[10:01] <Seveas> brianski, heh ;)
[10:01] <Seveas> xmoto rocks
[10:01] <praecox> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207512
[10:01] <avertv-cardbus> upon executing scantv i get the error "device has no tuner, exiting"
[10:01] <praecox> I've got similar problem
[10:01] <tWs_Mortorojo> Pelo, thanks
[10:01] <praecox> to the above one
[10:01] <brianski> Seveas: i'm on amd64, i don't need no stinkin w32codecs :)
[10:01] <Znuff> da_, are you using xchat?
[10:01] <praecox> got lots of cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[10:01] <bbrazil> tri3axe: udermod -m -d /path/to/home username
[10:01] <LjL> !adduser > tri3axe    (tri3axe, see the private message from Ubotu) | user the 'adduser' command
[10:01] <bbrazil> tri3axe: *useradd
[10:01] <praecox> while trying to print remotly on my LAN
[10:01] <Pelo> mirf,  an you access it in another way,  back up the data and reformat it
[10:01] <praecox> anyone got an idea?
[10:01] <Seveas> brianski, then no new xmoto for you either (no amd64 builds yet)
[10:02] <bbrazil> tri3axe: also, I'm not sure you want to do that
[10:02] <mirf> Pelo, I get an error when I boot if I watch tty1 "ata1.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0X4)"
[10:02] <Pelo> mirf,  is this a sata drive or a ata one ?
[10:02] <brianski> Seveas: oh really? dag.... i suppose i could take your source and build it on amd64
[10:02] <mirf> Pelo, yes I can reformat it, you agree this is gonan be the straightest way forward?
[10:02] <dbrewer_rjr> Pelo: i think i just blew up my feisty install. where are the files that govern session>startup? i am recursively starting vncserver
[10:02] <mirf> sata
[10:02] <mirf> Pelo, sata
[10:02] <Seveas> brianski, yeah, that's not hard to do :)
[10:03] <samael> Hi everyone, I would like to request ubuntu to import into universe a package that is in debian experimental. Is it possible?
[10:03] <mirf> hey Pelo you seem REALLY busy, thanks for your help I'm gonna reformat it
[10:03] <tri3axe> bbrazil: well i kinda need that i think.. using ftp server.. so a remote user can modify/uppload new weppages in the www/ dir
[10:03] <Znuff> Pelo, both sata is ata too :) old ide drives are refered to as pata now ;)
[10:03] <Pelo> mirf, I think that is your best solution,  and avoid fat16 as a file system go for at least fat32
[10:03] <ashaffer> I've got a dual display setup going right now, one monitor shows up at the right width but wrong height, the other is the wrong with and correct height.  My xorg.conf has both listed at the proper height x width, any suggestions/fixes?
[10:03] <mirf> Pelo, it is fat32 I think the lba setting is screwing somethign around
[10:03] <CactusWiZaRd> ubuntu doesn't support NTFS yet?
[10:04] <tri3axe> if there isnt better solutions tho
[10:04] <Pelo> Znuff,  I can never keep up with you young kids and your fancy lingo
[10:04] <soundray> samael: file a wishlist bug on launchpad. See also the private message from ubotu
[10:04] <Znuff> CactusWiZaRd, yes it does
[10:04] <brianski> ashaffer: wait for xorg 7.3 ? ;)
[10:04] <soundray> !bugs > samael
[10:04] <ashaffer> :(
[10:04] <Znuff> Ubuntu has ntfs-3g now
[10:04] <mirf> Znuff, really?!
[10:04] <samael> thanks! :)
[10:04] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:04] <mirf> Znuff, full read write support?
[10:04] <da_> am in classroom
[10:04] <Znuff> yup
[10:04] <ashaffer> brianski:1440x900 isn't that hard of a resolution
[10:04] <Znuff> for some time now
[10:04] <Seveas> ubotu is waking up :)
[10:04] <ubotu> tWs_Mortorojo: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:04] <mirf> Znuff, awesome, might try ntfs on the drive now
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is waking up :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <mrcreativity> its still not what im looking for, im sorry if im being a pain, but i cant seem to file the realplayer installer im looking for
[10:05] <CactusWiZaRd> Znuff: i haven't noticed that... or maybe my hd doesn't support ntfs yet
[10:05] <xNinja> hey...after deleting raid 0 strip array.....and rebuild it the data in that drives will be damaged or i can just delete the array and rebuild it and the data will be there again ?
[10:05] <Znuff> mirf, what kind of drive is that? what are you using it?
[10:05] <mirf> Znuff, although I sometimes boot live cds that might not like ntfs...
[10:05] <brianski> ashaffer: yeah but X's multi-monitor support kind of sucks... 7.3 is supposed to fix some if not all of that.
[10:05] <Znuff> CactusWiZaRd, your hd??! are you smoking something? :)
[10:05] <orbisvicis> hey, putty requires two colons and a / for vnc !
[10:05] <Znuff> mirf, then stick to fat32
[10:05] <da_> no
[10:05] <brianski> xinerama really runs best with two same-size monitors
[10:05] <eletido> brianski: when will 7.3 hit ubuntu?
[10:05] <mirf> Znuff, mass storage think you're right
[10:05] <fuzzy_logic> hello people
[10:05] <CactusWiZaRd> Znuff: Hd as hard drive
[10:05] <CactusWiZaRd> :D
[10:05] <brianski> eletido: probably not till gutsy (6 months)
[10:05] <ashaffer> yeah... i can tell it's not that great.  I set it for 1440x900 manually, but it set one to 1024x900 and the other to 2480x1050
[10:05] <Znuff> CactusWiZaRd, HDs don't care about filesystem
[10:06] <eletido> brianski: ok.
[10:06] <fuzzy_logic> does anyone know with what app i can make .gz packages?
[10:06] <CactusWiZaRd> Znuff: mm, k, good to know that
[10:06] <James> Anybody know how to get Pidgin (AKA GAIM) installed in Feisty?
[10:06] <Znuff> fuzzy_logic, gzip, but you're probably looking for tar (tar.gz or .tgz)
[10:06] <brianski> ashaffer: i had a coworker who fought for like a week to get X to work properly with his built in monitor and VGA-out on his laptop
[10:06] <Znuff> James, it's installed by default
[10:06] <James> GAIM is yes
[10:06] <soundray> fuzzy_logic: gzip
[10:06] <fuzzy_logic> Znuff: no.. gz.. thanks i will have a look at it
[10:06] <Znuff> James, GAIM == Pidgeon
[10:06] <James> but what about Pidgin?
[10:06] <fuzzy_logic> soundray: thanks
[10:07] <ashaffer> I figured running two of the exact same make and model on an nvidia card would be fairly simple
[10:07] <Znuff> Pidgin, whatever...
[10:07] <eletido> James: you can compile on your own
[10:07] <dangerousbrian> now i am
[10:07] <_Fade> hi
[10:07] <brianski> ashaffer: wait are you trying to do the same resolution on both?
[10:07] <James> I have compiled it nd have got it working but after about 10 seconds it just dissapears
[10:07] <Znuff> fuzzy_logic, btw, you can only compress ONE file with gzip
[10:07] <CactusWiZaRd> how about installing Feisty to a remote hard drive? could it work?
[10:07] <Znuff> CactusWiZaRd, installing it, yes, booting it? no :>
[10:07] <ashaffer> Yeah
[10:07] <fuzzy_logic> Znuff: that's also what i want :)
[10:08] <brianski> ashaffer: i think there is a nvidia-xconfig script or something like that
[10:08] <CactusWiZaRd> Znuff: damn, then i wont try that :D
[10:08] <ashaffer> brianski:  I'm trying to do 1440x900 on each, but the displays just go crazy on me;  I ran that script already
[10:08] <brianski> try that, it should give you a sane xorg.conf that works with your cards
[10:08] <Znuff> CactusWiZaRd, it can be done, but it's too complicated :)
[10:08] <eletido> James: hmm, thats odd. i wish i could help more. i have compiled on 2 machines at home, but i am at work on windows.
[10:08] <aoliax> hi, is there a way to remove keys from a keyserver for gpg?
[10:08] <eletido> James: you could try #pidgin for more help
[10:08] <brianski> ashaffer: ah well then i'm out of ideas...
[10:08] <silkey> kickstart in ubuntu feisty lacks nfs support for install bases?
[10:08] <Znuff> fuzzy_logic, look at bzip2, better compression ;)
[10:08] <brianski> ashaffer: edgy or feisty?
[10:08] <ashaffer> feisty
[10:08] <James> eletido: :( it is really odd
[10:08] <fuzzy_logic> Znuff: ok
[10:09] <brianski> hmm you should have the newer driver which supports more oddball sizes then
[10:09] <eletido> James: did you run from terminal and then close terminal?
[10:09] <orbisvicis> how do you forward sound over tightvnc ?
[10:09] <ashaffer> Yeah, I have no idea why it's going bonkers
[10:09] <Znuff> orbisvicis, you don't
[10:09] <brianski> yeah so i dunno. i know with ati you're very limited in terms of choosing resolutions, on nvidia dual monitor i've never tried
[10:09] <POVaddct> orbisvicis: i don't think vnc can do that
[10:09] <orbisvicis> oh -> soundserver then ?
[10:09] <Znuff> orbisvicis, tightvnc can't forward sound.
[10:09] <stinger05> hi there, which instant messaging program is used best in ubuntu so i can voice talk to "windows xp users" ??
[10:09] <Znuff> orbisvicis, esd can do that
[10:09] <James> eletido, I configured, Made, Make install it did all of that then I just ran the .Dektop file
[10:09] <Znuff> stinger05, gaim
[10:09] <orbisvicis> ill look into that
[10:09] <ashaffer> Would xinerama be of any help for this configuration?
[10:10] <White_Storm25> hi people. I use ubuntu. I need your help
[10:10] <orbisvicis> thanks
[10:10] <asanchez> hi all!
[10:10] <Znuff> !ask | White_Storm25
[10:10] <ubotu> White_Storm25: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:10] <stinger05> does it have voice chat ?
[10:10] <White_Storm25> who can help me?
[10:10] <h3xis> White_Storm25 absolutely nobody.
[10:10] <Pelo> White_Storm25,  hello we help and we need yourproblem
[10:10] <dangerousbrian> wheres soundray gone?
[10:10] <CactusWiZaRd> Znuff: Gaim doesn't support voice chat
[10:10] <tgm4883> White_Storm25, nobody unless you state your problem
[10:10] <Znuff> stinger05, I'm not sure to be honest.
[10:10] <zoohouse> I am having trouble getting the outside world to see my vncserver... I have my computer connected directly to my DSL modem and using firestarter, I have the firewall disabled. Yet I can't connect to my vncserver using my public ip yet my local ip works fine. when I use canyouseeme.org it say "connection timed out" What may be wrong?
[10:10] <soundray> dangerousbrian: what's up?
[10:10] <Znuff> CactusWiZaRd, I wasn't the one asking, but thanks :P
[10:10] <Znuff> Whatever happened to Gaim-VV btw?
[10:10] <mrcreativity> how can i make the desktop icons smaller
[10:11] <CactusWiZaRd> stinger05: so, gaim doesn't support voice chat, try aMSN or Kopete
[10:11] <asanchez> somebody knows about ipw4965 ubuntu support?
[10:11] <dangerousbrian> cant seem to be able to have 1 to 1
[10:11] <stinger05> k thx dude :D
[10:11] <CactusWiZaRd> stinger05: np
[10:11] <mk1_salami> hi all
[10:11] <h3xis> asanchez ipw4965 doesnt exist
[10:11] <_Fade> complete linux newbie - im having some problems after installing ubuntu, i had the same problem with kubuntu. The install goes ok, after restarting it just drops me at a prompt after displaying "screen(s) found, but non have a usuable configuration, fatal server error no screens found, any help is much appreciated
[10:11] <Pelo> mrcreativity, rightlck
[10:11] <eletido> James: that is odd.
[10:11] <HarleyQuine> hi everyone. HackerWatch.org says that my ports are closed but unsecure but nmap says all ports are closed. Which do I believe? :S
[10:11] <soundray> dangerousbrian: we can if you join #ubuntu-classroom
[10:12] <CactusWiZaRd> stinger05: aMSN for sure supports voice chat, about Kopete i'm not so sure
[10:12] <asanchez> h3xis, i have one of this at job
[10:12] <White_Storm25> I can't play vcd and audio with vlc media player. how can I solve it?
[10:12] <h3xis> asanchez and it's a wireless card?
[10:12] <Yuno> pelo: it didn't work
[10:12] <linux_stu> anyone know much about configuring an ubuntu parition with an EFI?
[10:12] <mrcreativity> Pelo: then?
[10:12] <eletido> James: i'll be back home in a few hours. i could try to help more then.
[10:12] <mk1_salami> does anyone have a minute to help me out with a file permission problem? I don't know how to make my 2 hdd's non read-only.
[10:12] <brianski> HarleyQuine: what is  "closed but unsecure" supposed to mean?
[10:12] <Znuff> _Fade, log in and then use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and reconfigure your X server
[10:12] <Pelo> _Fade,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:12] <CactusWiZaRd> White_Storm25: have you tried using XMMS for audio?
[10:12] <asanchez> yes, its the wireless card of SantaRosa platform "Centrino Pro"
[10:12] <James> eletido: i will be gone then :(
[10:12] <dangerousbrian> #ubuntu-classroom
[10:12] <Yuno> the command yougave me didn't work either
[10:12] <HarleyQuine> that the port is not being blocked but there's no program accepting connections
[10:12] <LjL> dangerousbrian: /join #ubuntu-classroom
[10:12] <CactusWiZaRd> White_Storm25: or is it just VLC you want to use?
[10:12] <h3xis> asanchez how do you know it's an ipw4965 and not using ipw3945
[10:12] <White_Storm25> no I didn't use xmms
[10:12] <eletido> James: you could try #pidgin
[10:12] <Yuno> i have to reinstall ubuntu :\
[10:13] <Pelo> Yuno,  that was my best guess search the forum for you card model and number maybe you'll find a fix there or ask again later in here
[10:13] <White_Storm25> where can I find it?
[10:13] <h3xis> White_Storm25 dont use xmms
[10:13] <kdubois> xmms. eww. use listen
[10:13] <praecox> anyone with printer problem?
[10:13] <Pelo> Yuno,  the command didn'T do anything or it did and it didn'Twork ?
[10:13] <h3xis> White_Storm25 use audacious, it's the same (like winamp) but less crappier
[10:13] <James> ahhhh
[10:13] <asanchez> h3xis, because its a intel 965GM chipset
[10:13] <James> eletido: I think that may work lol :D silly me
[10:13] <asanchez> i965GM don't support 3945 chipset
[10:13] <Pelo> praecox, are you offering or asking ?
[10:13] <White_Storm25> I can see vcd movies with audacious playes?
[10:14] <Yuno> it said dpkg-reconfigre was invaild
[10:14] <ubuntulover> ok, so the long time test for a linux distro is "can my grandmother use it". I about have her converted, but one problem remains. she is an aol user. I want to help her in baby steps, and there is no broadband in her area. can AOL work on ubuntu?
[10:14] <h3xis> asanchez ah right, my apologies, i made a typo when looking for it :p
[10:14] <linux_stu> anyone know much about configuring an ubuntu parition with an EFI?
[10:14] <soundray> dangerousbrian: I don't have the patience for this. Can you please familiarize yourself with basic usage of your IRC software and then ask again.
[10:14] <asanchez> h3xis, sorry my english is so bad
[10:14] <jtmoney> how come it's taking so long for ubuntu to release an updated package for gaim/pidgin? it went from beta to final, i figured that would be kind of important to roll-out
[10:14] <nuked_omen> is there a decent image editor for linux?
[10:14] <h3xis> asanchez it's fine, i understand it
[10:14] <Adlai> plenty
[10:14] <dangerousbrian> soundray am in classroom
[10:14] <Pelo> Yuno,   sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg     I apologise if the typo was my fault
[10:14] <ubuntulover> Pixel or my favorite, GIMP
[10:14] <Adlai> nuked_omen, plenty
[10:14] <SlimeyPete> nuked_omen: the Gimp is the most popular, assuming you mean photos
[10:14] <h3xis> asanchez how old is that chipset?
[10:15] <asanchez> 7 days old
[10:15] <ubuntulover> TheGimp = photoshop 4.5
[10:15] <diesel> Ever since my ugrade to Feisty, I have noticed my SSH connections take quite some time to establish.  I turned on debug and noticed: "debug: An invalid name was supplied" and "Cannot determine realm for numeric host" in the debug output.  ANyone know a solution.  Other non-SSH connections are very responsive (instantaneous)
[10:15] <h3xis> asanchez since it was released to the public?
[10:15] <praecox> Pelo, I'm looking for help with my printer problem.
[10:15] <nuked_omen> the gimp is very ugly and confusing, i want a more user-freindly one
[10:15] <Adlai> diesel, check /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf
[10:15] <mrcreativity> i still cant realplayer
[10:15] <nuked_omen> Pixel isn't free
[10:15] <Pelo> ubuntulover, check the forum , i assume the connection itself will work but she won't have the aol interface
[10:15] <Znuff> nuked_omen, gimp is your best choice
[10:15] <asanchez> yes, its a travelmate 6492Lmi
[10:15] <Azrael-|-BRB> I still miss photoshop, nuked: I know what you mean...
[10:15] <mrcreativity> i downloaded a .bin file but i cant install it
[10:15] <mrcreativity> i know there was a .deb packager somewhere
[10:15] <LjL> nuked_omen: krita? gimpshop?
[10:15] <James> eletido: that worked lol thx :D
[10:15] <nuked_omen> Znuff: no it's not.. i tried to adapt with the gimp but i just couldn't
[10:15] <SlimeyPete> nuked_omen: there aren't really any that come close to the Gimp in terms of features. I don't like the interface either, but it's worth getting used to.
[10:15] <Pelo> praecox, statte your problem and wait for an answer , it a busy chanel
[10:15] <h3xis> asanchez then it's highly doubtful that it is supported in ubuntu out of the box. let me check intel's site to see if they offer linux drivers
[10:16] <nuked_omen> i found that many people agree too
[10:16] <HarleyQuine> scary port thingys, believe the program as opposed to the site?
[10:16] <Znuff> nuked_omen, then you're screwed :)
[10:16] <LjL> mrcreativity: it's mentioned https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods here
[10:16] <asanchez> h3xis, im seeking for this too
[10:16] <monkeyshit> anyone in here a mad-botter?
[10:16] <monkeyshit> need some help
[10:16] <Yuno> Pelo: i figured you made a typo and tried it that way but it gave me  sudo: dkpg-reconfigure: command not found
[10:16] <nuked_omen> Znuff: :(
[10:16] <nuked_omen> there should be more choices
[10:16] <LjL> Yuno: dpkg not dkpg
[10:16] <nuked_omen> like you have the choice to dump OOo
[10:16] <karan> while running ./configure
[10:17] <karan> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:17] <nuked_omen> but the gimp is like unavoidable
[10:17] <LjL> !build-essential > karan    (karan, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:17] <Znuff> karan, install libc6-dev
[10:17] <karan> okie
[10:17] <Pelo> Yuno, hold on
[10:17] <monkeyshit> bot help>?
[10:17] <Azrael-|-BRB> nuked_omen: There was a guide on the web to get Photoshop CS2 running smoothly under Wine.
[10:17] <nuked_omen> i might as well get pixel if it's worth it
[10:17] <LjL> !ask | monkeyshit
[10:17] <ubotu> monkeyshit: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:17] <Azrael-|-BRB> It all depends on whether you have a problem with piracy :D
[10:18] <James> eletido: u there?
[10:18] <LjL> !away > Azrael---    (Azrael---, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:18] <nuked_omen> Azrael-|-BRB: i'll google that.. although i hate all types of emulation, api layers, virtual machines
[10:18] <eletido> James: hi
[10:18] <h3xis> asanchez it appears intel does not yet suppport linux for that chipset (which is unacceptable and ridiculous) so you might have to use ndiswrapper and hope that it works
[10:18] <James> eletido: I dont have sounds :(
[10:18] <HHornblower> anybody here have TiLP working?
[10:18] <Pelo> Yuno,  try  sudo apt-get install dkpg and then the command
[10:18] <HHornblower> I can't get the kernel modules to install.
[10:18] <James> eletido: my pc speaker just beeps
[10:18] <`AnthraX> hello
[10:19] <`AnthraX> i need help
[10:19] <Yuno> i got it to work
[10:19] <LjL> Pelo: again, dpkg not dkpg :) which is why the dKpg-configure was failing in the first place, i guess
[10:19] <Yuno> thanks
[10:19] <asanchez> h3xis, thanks a lot!
[10:19] <`AnthraX> E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:19] <`AnthraX> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:19] <Yuno> still my ATI card does not work
[10:19] <`AnthraX> im having this error :/
[10:19] <Pelo> LjL,  do I keep making that mistake ?
[10:19] <mrcreativity> Pelo: u were saying something about reducing the desktop icon size
[10:19] <eletido> James: did you check to see how the sounds are configured in the prefs?
[10:19] <h3xis> asanchez i wasn't aware intel came out with that chipset, but i guess i do now :p
[10:19] <LjL> Pelo: apparently :P
[10:19] <Azrael---> Yuno: You're having ATI problems too?
[10:19] <Pelo> damit
[10:19] <Azrael---> What card have you got?
[10:20] <h3xis> asanchez they'll probably release linux drivers within a month or two, hopefully
[10:20] <diesel> Adlai: what am I suppose to see/not see in /etc/hosts.  My resolv.conf is correct for the network that I am on.  I did see 127.0.1.1 <hostname>.  I blew that away and still have the same issue.
[10:20] <LjL> `AnthraX: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list (which i guess you messed up)
[10:20] <James> eletido: It says Console beep, command or no sounds
[10:20] <Yuno> Visiontek ATI X1300
[10:20] <Yuno> OCI
[10:20] <Yuno> PCI*
[10:20] <Pelo> mrcreativity, read up, show the tiniest bit of initiative please this is a busy chanel
[10:20] <`AnthraX> :P
[10:20] <Azrael---> PCI :D
[10:20] <`AnthraX> yes i did
[10:20] <Adlai> where are you trying to ssh to?
[10:20] <eletido> James: looks like pidgin doesnt like your sound card.
[10:20] <`AnthraX> and i don't know how :/
[10:20] <`AnthraX> from one program i downloaded
[10:20] <mrcreativity> im sorry
[10:20] <`AnthraX> :/
[10:20] <James> eletido: :(, GAIM worked
[10:20] <diesel> Adlai: any ssh connection has the problem.
[10:20] <Azrael---> I think there was a guide on ubuntuforums.org to fix problems with X**** cards, have you tried them?
[10:20] <Pelo> Yuno,  did yo notice the error ljl picked up in the command I was giving you ?
[10:20] <monkeyshit> Well... it's about designing a bot...    like this !@ www.importantllink.com / description   << Would then archive the link/description ... username and date ... the archives could be called up upon typing !@ + user OR description keyword OR date/date-range   //\\ also would auto dump to html and auto upload to an ftp server for later viewing of full archives seperated by each day.
[10:21] <James> eletido: Why shouldn't Pidgin?
[10:21] <monkeyshit> So that is my idea for the bot... I just don't know how to do anything like that.
[10:21] <Znuff> monkeyshit, supybot
[10:21] <EADG02> Is anybody running seprate consecutive consoles on multi-monitor set up? (not in X, cli only :) I just want to know if it's possible...
[10:21] <orbisvicis> if i use the same /home in another linux, will it overwrite all my ubuntu files ?
[10:21] <Adlai> diesel, dunno then
[10:21] <LjL> `AnthraX: well we'll fix it (hopefully you haven't also installed packages you shouldn't have, but anyway...) - just pastebin it and i'll give you a corrected version
[10:21] <eletido> James: no idea. again, try #pidgin for more info. its where all the pidgin devs reside
[10:21] <monkeyshit> supybot, znuff?
[10:21] <James> kk
[10:21] <James> Thx
[10:21] <Adlai> orbisvicis, I would suggest making a "storage" partition and symlinking to that from the /home/user/ folder on both OSes
[10:22] <Znuff> monkeyshit, it has something like that
[10:22] <Yuno> the error i got was (ww) fglrx no matching device
[10:22] <Adlai> that way configuration files (.gnome/......) won't get changed
[10:22] <monkeyshit> ok.. thanks.. I'm going to check it out.
[10:22] <Pelo> orbisvicis,  is should make use of the setting found there but it might mofify some to fit the apps in thenew distro,  so it is possible that goign back to ubuntu some might not work well
[10:22] <Znuff> monkeyshit, you could probably extend the url plugins to create html pages
[10:22] <monkeyshit> I'm not sure how this shit works, znuff... I just know it would be very useful to have something like that.
[10:22] <Yuno> section for instsaceBusID (PCI: 2:0:0
[10:22] <Yuno> instance*
[10:22] <monkeyshit> I don't really have time to learn about it either...
[10:23] <iamelite> Anyone know a how to, to get the Radeon X1300 to work?
[10:23] <Znuff> !list Url
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list url - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <`AnthraX> hmm i don't know how to get there.. it';s my first time on linux since last night and i havent slept yet :P can you guide me how to find my /etc/apt/sources ?
[10:23] <Znuff> ubotu, what are you?
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what are you? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <nuked_omen> monkeyshit: learn what?
[10:23] <Yuno> a bot
[10:23] <_Fade> Newbie Question - im having some problems after installing ubuntu, i had the same problem with kubuntu. The install goes ok, after restarting it just drops me at a prompt after displaying "screen(s) found, but non have a usuable configuration, fatal server error no screens found, the pc im installing to is an IBM Netvista with onboard intel 845G Video, thanks for any help offered :)
[10:23] <monkeyshit> nuked_omen  really any damn thing
[10:23] <iamelite> ubotu, X1300
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x1300 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <Pelo> `AnthraX,  get some sleep it will be easier when you are rested
[10:24] <iamelite> ubotu, computers and that stuff.
[10:24] <Yuno> _Fade: lol im working with a netvista for a school project
[10:24] <Azrael---> ubotu, radeon
[10:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <`AnthraX> no man is cool till now
[10:24] <Pelo> !hardware | _Fade  check your hardware here to see if it is supported
[10:24] <ubotu> _Fade  check your hardware here to see if it is supported: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:24] <`AnthraX> i just want to work them out :)))))))
[10:24] <`AnthraX> they are  goood
[10:24] <Azrael---> ubotu, downgrading
[10:24] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[10:24] <`AnthraX> a new world to me
[10:24] <`AnthraX> :)
[10:24] <Pelo> iamchris,  please donT' play with the bot
[10:24] <Azrael---> ubotu, ubotu
[10:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:25] <_Fade> ubotu : ok, thanks
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <albert> i lost my /etc/fstab entry for hdb2 for some reason. now i'd like to regenerate with my fstab-backup but the uuid doesn't work anymore. how do i fix this?
[10:25] <orbisvicis> well, ill make a backup first
[10:25] <bbrazil> monkeyshit: you can't really expect to produce something new without learning something. I'd suggest reading though the supybot website, it's a nice base to work with
[10:25] <ben81> anyone know a recovery software to retrieve my lost files on a disk ?
[10:25] <Azrael---> ubotu, anything
[10:25] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[10:25] <Azrael---> damnit.
[10:25] <Znuff> ben81, what fs?
[10:25] <_Fade> Yuno: Have u got ubuntu installed on it?
[10:25] <Azrael---> Ubotu wins.
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wins. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <LjL> !info testdisk > ben81
[10:25] <orbisvicis> arch linux & suse will be sharing /tmp , /home with ubuntu
[10:25] <LjL> !info magicrescue > ben81
[10:25] <Azrael---> My intelligence was beaten by ubotu.
[10:26] <Pelo> `AnthraX,   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  but if you are not an expert try using hte gui instead,   menu > system > admin > sources something
[10:26] <Azrael---> I feel ashamed now :(
[10:26] <southafrikanse> Hello. Firefox wont close. How can I terminate it?
[10:26] <h3xis> southafrikanse in terminal do killall firefox-bin
[10:26] <bbrazil> southafrikanse: pkill firefox
[10:26] <monkeyshit> alright bbrazil  I'll check into it.  I doubt I'll get anywhere with configuring my own
[10:26] <Znuff> southafrikanse, killall -9 firefox-bin
[10:26] <monkeyshit> though*
[10:26] <ben81> LjL thanks
[10:26] <southafrikanse> thank you
[10:26] <Pelo> southafrikanse,  sudo killall firefox
[10:26] <binks> anyone no of a disk checking tool for ubuntu to hdd for errors
[10:26] <Pelo> binks,  fsck
[10:26] <`AnthraX> software sources
[10:27] <Pelo> `AnthraX, yep that 's it
[10:27] <orbisvicis> is something like this possible ps -ef | grep firefox kill
[10:27] <bbrazil> h3xis: try to use pkill in preference of killall. You'll thank me if you ever admin a solaris box
[10:27] <mrcreativity> Pelo: found it, and i found the realplayer as well.
[10:27] <h3xis> bbrazil i do admin a solaris box.
[10:27] <Pelo> mrcreativity, congrats
[10:27] <binks> Pelo: fsck ok cheers
[10:27] <diesel> Adlai: I fixed the timing with setting GSSAPIAuthentication no in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[10:27] <bbrazil> h3xis: then you should know the danger
[10:27] <Adlai> congrats
[10:27] <albert> i lost my /etc/fstab entry for hdb2 for some reason. now i'd like to regenerate it with my fstab-backup but the uuid doesn't work anymore. how do i fix this?
[10:27] <iamchris> Pelo
[10:27] <h3xis> bbrazil i do ;) but it's never been an issue within linux with such trivial processes as that
[10:27] <iamchris> Im not exactly sure what you mean about playing with the bot
[10:27] <Pelo> iamchris, ?
[10:27] <`AnthraX> hmmmm
[10:27] <iamchris> these are the first words I've ever typed here
[10:27] <PsyDev> me too
[10:28] <`AnthraX> strange
[10:28] <LjL> nuked_omen: perhaps because the operators don't spend 100% of their time watching every single message in this rather busy channel
[10:28] <LjL> !language | monkeyshit
[10:28] <ubotu> monkeyshit: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:28] <Pelo> iamchris,  sorry wrong nick it was directed at iamelite
[10:28] <binks> Pelo: i was after a hardware check not a filesystem check any ideas
[10:28] <iamchris> Okay, phew. I thought something crazy was gojng on
[10:28] <tri3axe> gah.. how do i change the "/home" dir for a user?
[10:28] <monkeyshit> ljl  sorry... it's only a nickname though.
[10:28] <`AnthraX> ok found them
[10:28] <mrcreativity> although, i have a new problem, i have a folder on the desktop that i cant delete
[10:28] <Pelo> binks,  I donT' know of any but I'm not a good source on this,  try searching the forum for suggestions
[10:29] <iamelite> Pelo, whats up?
[10:29] <`AnthraX> let me paste em
[10:29] <Pelo> iamelite, nvm , too late
[10:29] <paer> Hi. I'm having problems with Ubuntu Feisty. When using gnome-btdownload to get files bigger than 2gb, they stop downloading at around 2gb and I get error "IO Error [Errno 27]  File too large". Some googling suggests it's because python can't handle big files. Is this something I can do anything about? Thanks for help...
[10:29] <LjL> monkeyshit: i was talking about something else (some of your previous messages) - though i agree you could consider changing the nickname too
[10:29] <Pelo> `AnthraX,  donT'
[10:29] <binks> Pelo: :):)
[10:29] <iamelite> Anyone have info on installing the RX1300 ATI card, i would be most greatful
[10:29] <mayorbuttes> Hey guys, Just upgraded to feisty, and now it won't boot up...gets past the loading screen, but then hangs at a blank black screen
[10:29] <Znuff> paer, I'd suggest using rtorrent
[10:29] <Pelo> !pastebin | `AnthraX
[10:29] <ubotu> `AnthraX: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:29] <Filthpig> hi, is java -jar /path/to/jar all I really need to install something with java? (this something baing azureus)
[10:29] <Filthpig> being*
[10:29] <Filthpig> !azureus
[10:30] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[10:30] <monkeyshit> ljl oh... I sometimes don't pay attention to what I say... sorry.
[10:30] <pjman> Hi everyone. Can someone help me figure out why my USB drive works when booted to Feisty LiveCD but not after installing it? I'm getting I/O errors and it automatically unmounts when trying to read from it. I have the /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=449562. Are there any other logs that would be helpful?
[10:30] <Znuff> Filthpig, you're not installing it. You're running it with tha tcommand
[10:30] <Pelo> iamelite, try with  menu > system > admin > restricted drivers first
[10:30] <Youmer> ! lost network mounts
[10:30] <paer> Znuff: ok I happen to like gnome-btdownload. Would bigger files work with rtorrent? Isn't there any way to fix gnome-btdownload instead?
[10:30] <`AnthraX> here we go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22035/
[10:30] <iamelite> Pelo, Yes... Reboots with Black screen of death!
[10:30] <Znuff> paer, it's the best client you can get for linux
[10:31] <Znuff> paer, or you could try azureus, but imho that just sucks
[10:31] <mrcreativity> can someone help me? there is a folder on the desktop that i cant delete
[10:31] <albert> doesn't anybody know how the UUID entry in the fstab is generated?
[10:31] <h3xis> mrcreativity which?
[10:31] <Pelo> iamchris, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to restor the vesa  then try the following
[10:31] <`AnthraX> Pelo ok got it?
[10:31] <mirf> Pelo, you still there?
[10:31] <mayorbuttes> once more:
[10:31] <mayorbuttes> Hey guys, Just upgraded to feisty, and now it won't boot up...gets past the loading screen, but then hangs at a blank black screen
[10:31] <mirf> oh I see you are
[10:31] <mrcreativity> its called hxsetup
[10:31] <Znuff> 	 18 	Attacks 	in 	0:18:05 h
[10:31] <Pelo> !ati | iamelite
[10:31] <ubotu> iamelite: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:31] <Pelo> damit
[10:31] <Znuff> erm, wrong window
[10:31] <h3xis> mrcreativity try deleting it from terminal
[10:31] <stefg> !uuid | albert
[10:31] <Filthpig> Znuff: yeah well the plan is to install a *.jar-file
[10:31] <ubotu> albert: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:31] <Pelo> mirf, yes how can I help you ?
[10:31] <orbisvicis> Adlai: with your suggestion, there still might be conflicts after the installation, I think ?
[10:31] <Azrael---> mayorbuttes: You have no access to the terminal?
[10:32] <albert> stefg, ty
[10:32] <Znuff> Filthpig, you don't install .jar files!
[10:32] <paer> Znuff: yea i've tried azureus, only had problems and memory hogging. Still, telling me to change client isn't really an answer to my question. Are you sure that's what I will have to do? Why is then gnome-btdownloaded installed by Ubuntu, and not rtorrent?
[10:32] <Znuff> Filthpig, you _run_ jar files
[10:32] <Znuff> paer, because rtorrent is console, not guy
[10:32] <Filthpig> k
[10:32] <Znuff> erm, GUI :)
[10:32] <Adlai> orbisvicis, I have none, with this setup:
[10:32] <mayorbuttes> Azrael---: well I COULD reboot into recover mode :)
[10:32] <Filthpig> anyhow, azureus won't start
[10:32] <Filthpig> it throws some error
[10:32] <wastedfluid> Anyone else have a hibernation problem when dual booting..?
[10:32] <mayorbuttes> Azrael---: but as of right now, no i don't even have access to a terminal
[10:32] <Pelo> Filthpig,  utorrent running on wine
[10:32] <Znuff> Filthpig, what's the error?
[10:32] <Azrael---> :/
[10:33] <binks> Pelo: badblocks -s /dev/sda checks the hdd fyi cheers
[10:33] <Filthpig> 1 sec
[10:33] <Znuff> Filthpig, rTorrent ;)
[10:33] <Adlai> /dev/sda1 is /boot, /dev/sda2 is swap, /dev/sda3 is / (on ubuntu), /dev/sda4 is /media/gentoo (and / on gentoo), /dev/sda5 is /media/storage
[10:33] <Azrael---> Reboot into recovery mode, see if it loads then.
[10:33] <mirf> Pelo, well this hard drive I'm being teased with cna be mounted fine in windows or with a linux rescue cd
[10:33] <Pelo> binks,  I'll try to remember
[10:33] <mayorbuttes> Azrael---: will do.
[10:33] <Adlai> then I have a link /home/adlai/storage -> /media/storage
[10:33] <Filthpig> $ java -jar Azureus3.0.1.2.jar
[10:33] <Filthpig> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/ParseException
[10:33] <Adlai> under both distros
[10:33] <paer> Znuff: OK i guess I'll have to install it then, but I'm not happy about it. Should I report a bug on gnome-btdownload? Haven't anyone else had this problem?
[10:33] <binks> Pelo: you never no when it will pop up again
[10:33] <Pelo> mirf,  there migth be a problem with the mouting line in fstab
[10:34] <Pelo> binks,  indead
[10:34] <Znuff> paer, really not sure. I'm only using rTorrent to be honest.
[10:34] <mirf> Pelo, would this also affect booting ubuntu live cd?
[10:34] <paer> Znuff: OK. thanks for helping.
[10:34] <albert> stefg, thx, got my harddrive back
[10:34] <_Fade> ubotu : according to the compatability list my hardware is supported, however is also says "In Feisty, a more up-to-date Intel driver package is available (in Universe)" followed by a command "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" when i run the command it gives me a list of what i assume are drivers but i dont see intel mentioned in any of them and it tells me that i must explicitly select one to install
[10:34] <_Fade> lol
[10:34] <mrcreativity> i cant delete from terminal, it says file is write protected
[10:35] <DuckFart> Pelo: thanks for the printer advice for 7.04, printer and scanner worked perfectly!
[10:35] <stefg> albert, just lost mine due to f*cking gparted
[10:35] <LjL> !permissions > mrcreativity    (mrcreativity, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:35] <Pelo> mirf,  the live cd will just automount everthing it sees,   the installed version relies on  fstab to avoid scanning the comp everytime
[10:35] <h3xis> mrcreativity sudo rm -rf <directory>
[10:35] <albert> stefg, same here ;)
[10:35] <sidim> Hi question about wireless
[10:35] <h3xis> sidim yes?
[10:35] <LjL> h3xis: careful with giving commands like that
[10:35] <sidim> why is my signal is so low
[10:35] <Pelo> DuckFart,  well I'm glad I helped at leastt one person today,  that make it 1/532
[10:35] <sidim> having lot of connection drop
[10:35] <h3xis> LjL i think we both know what we're doing ;)
[10:35] <mirf> Pelo, problem is ubuntu live cd does not mount this drive either
[10:35] <h3xis> sidim what chipset
[10:35] <drega> ah anyone able to prod my memory and tell me how to execute my crontab entries manually?
[10:35] <wastedfluid> Pelo; you helped me out a lot yesterday.. so cheer up.
[10:36] <mayorbuttes> Azrael---: seems to have logged me in as root right away
[10:36] <Pelo> mirf, oh, sorry I missread
[10:36] <sidim> Dlink G520
[10:36] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  the pressure is just getting to me
[10:36] <mrcreativity> h3xis: thanks, that worked
[10:36] <Znuff> mirf, hmm, what FileSystem?
[10:36] <DuckFart> :) could be worse. the other 511 could figure out where you live and pay a visit...
[10:36] <stefg> albert, so lets start a petition on launchpad to either fix this data-junkyard or keep it out of ther distro , grrrrmlll
[10:36] <Znuff> mirf, did you try mounting it manually?
[10:36] <orbisvicis> ok
[10:36] <mirf> Znuff, vfat
[10:36] <wastedfluid> Pelo: LOL.  You'll be okay.  I appreciate your help from yeterday.
[10:36] <mirf> Znuff,yup
[10:36] <h3xis> sidim do a lspci -vv and look for your wireless card there. it should tell you the chipset. AFAIK dlink does not make chipsets
[10:36] <Znuff> mirf, and? works or doesn't?
[10:36] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  you are welcome
[10:36] <h3xis> sidim i think dlink uses atheros so look for that
[10:36] <Filthpig> why are there no decent *.deb-packages for azureus..? the one I tried from the repos just aborted when loading
[10:37] <sidim>  Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[10:37] <wastedfluid> Pelo; know anything about a hibernation issue on 6.* with dual boot setup?  I go to start Ubuntu after I hibernate it, and all I see is ORANGE and BLACK lines (vertical)
[10:37] <Pelo> mirf, look up the hdd model in the forum and in the harware wiiki maybe there is a known issue
[10:37] <orbisvicis> i have a spare partition, but I mounted it root .... do I change that in mtab ?
[10:37] <h3xis> sidim so your chipset is ar5212. are you using it out of the box or did you compile the drivers/use ndiswrapper?
[10:37] <albert> stefg, well, maybe just a warning log, before you it actually begins working. sth. like: Warning: Fstab needs to be fixed after any change to your harddrives.
[10:37] <linxeh> Filthpig: they are in the universe i think. you shouldnt use the ubuntu package iirc though - it was broken last time I tried it. get the download from the azureus.sf.net site
[10:37] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  the only thing I know is that suspend /hibernate in linux in general is not all that reliable yet
[10:37] <orbisvicis> the permissions, i mean
[10:37] <mirf> Pelo, good idea, it's just really strange, the live cd worked fine with it last night
[10:38] <wastedfluid> Pelo; any other way to "stand by" or "hiberanate" it - that you know of?
[10:38] <sidim> just out of the box
[10:38] <Pelo> wastedfluid, your problem sounds like the video card is not comming out of hibernation properly
[10:38] <Znuff> mirf, so... does it work mounted manually?
[10:38] <wastedfluid> That
[10:38] <wastedfluid> That's what I was thinking; perhaps try to find a driver upgrade?
[10:38] <h3xis> sidim are you dual booting with windows per chance?
[10:38] <Adlai> orbisvicis, you need to edit /etc/fstab
[10:38] <Pelo> wastedfluid, I'm on a desktop I haven'T had much need for those things
[10:38] <mirf> Znuff, yeah just not in ubuntu anymore, live or otherwise
[10:38] <Adlai> add "user" to the options
[10:38] <sidim> yes
[10:38] <wastedfluid> Ah; definately on a laptop.  don't want it running ALL day.
[10:38] <sidim> window XP
[10:38] <mirf> k I gotta be afk for a bit
[10:38] <stefg> Filthpig: to answer why? noone cares enough, to answer how? d/l from sourcefourge and replace the azureus .jar (after you made sure your java is recentand configured)
[10:38] <mayorbuttes> Azrael---: Should I just private message you?
[10:38] <Pelo> mirf, it this a very old hdd ? it might have died
[10:38] <h3xis> sidim and do you have this problem within windows?
[10:38] <Znuff> mirf, try mounting it manually then check dmesg
[10:39] <quasar7> Anyone had luck installing qmail in dapper?
[10:39] <sidim> not at all
[10:39] <Znuff> quasar7, qmail is bad for your health
[10:39] <Adlai> orbisvicis, then remount it
[10:39] <h3xis> sidim could be the drivers that ubuntu is using. you could download them and compile them yourself to see if that fixes it
[10:39] <Pelo> Znuff, right now mirf 's hdd is not even recognised properly  trying to mount it will do nothing
[10:39] <Filthpig> stefg: I only find the azureus.jar on sf
[10:39] <`AnthraX> Pelo ok got it?
[10:39] <gtadmin>  /foreach window /window level MSGS PUBLICS NOTICES CTCPS ACTIONS JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS MODES TOPICS NICKS CLIENTCRAP
[10:39] <`AnthraX> :)
[10:39] <Znuff> Pelo, _oh_
[10:39] <sidim> so where to find the driver
[10:40] <Pelo> `AnthraX,  what ?
[10:40] <h3xis> sidim let me check
[10:40] <sidim> ok
[10:40] <Adlai> so someone messed that up
[10:40] <Znuff> Filthpig, try downloading the older azureus 2.x release?
[10:40] <brianski> has anyone else had a problem where they install a custom kernel and on reboot the screen is blank? i only changed the cpu optimisation from 586 to athlon, so i can't imagine it's something i did wrong
[10:40] <Pelo> mirf,  if it is an old  hdd, that last format might have been one to many
[10:40] <Filthpig> same stuff
[10:40] <orbisvicis> got it
[10:40] <orbisvicis> thanks
[10:40] <Adlai> np
[10:40] <Filthpig> the tar.bz-file only contains a jar
[10:40] <Filthpig> :s
[10:40] <stefg> Filthpig: the ubuntu-deb is junk anyway, so you can safely overwrite teh one which was installed by synaptic.
[10:40] <Znuff> Filthpig, hmmm, what jre do you have?
[10:40] <orbisvicis> time to install arch
[10:40] <orbisvicis> later
[10:40] <stefg> !sun-java| Filthpig
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <linxuz3r> !firefox
[10:41] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:41] <h3xis> sidim check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[10:41] <stefg> !sunjava | Filthpig
[10:41] <`AnthraX> hmm
[10:41] <linxuz3r> guys i am having problems with firefox can someone help me?
[10:41] <ubotu> Filthpig: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:41] <sidim> thanks
[10:41] <mayorbuttes> Hey guys, I'm sittin here starin' at the recovery console for feisty. it auto logged me in as root. When I tried to boot into the regular ubuntu with x, it just froze at a blank black screen.
[10:41] <wastedfluid> Shit.  Flash.  Java.  I wish.
[10:41] <h3xis> linxuz3r what kind
[10:41] <wastedfluid> I wish.
[10:41] <wastedfluid> *grumbles about 64bit support*
[10:41] <Znuff> wastedfluid, oh, that's bad :)
[10:41] <wastedfluid> lol.  :)
[10:41] <wastedfluid> Isn't it horrible?
[10:41] <Znuff> 64bit is bad for desktop :-)
[10:42] <Pelo> mayorbuttes, what video card ?
[10:42] <tri3axe> is there somthing like front page for ubuntu?   like a wysiwyg editor..  so you can build webpage in diffrent modes..not only html mode
[10:42] <wastedfluid> hehe, this is my only laptop
[10:42] <wastedfluid> No big deal
[10:42] <linxuz3r> !vmware
[10:42] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[10:42] <mayorbuttes> Pelo: Some ati I believe.
[10:42] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  just install the 32 bit version it will still work and you'll get all the goodies
[10:42] <Znuff> wastedfluid, just install a 32bit version
[10:42] <wastedfluid> The 32 bit version will install fine?
[10:42] <Znuff> wastedfluid, yes
[10:42] <Yancho> hi. i have a gforce 420mx. are the linux drivers installed by default with the os? (haave ubuntu). i did the test by cedega and it is not seeing the open_gl drivers :S
[10:42] <wastedfluid> I was thinking of htat; but the tutorial I read
[10:43] <wastedfluid> made it look complicated, and like it takes forever.
[10:43] <Filthpig> oh well, I'm off
[10:43] <Znuff> wastedfluid, uhm?
[10:43] <Filthpig> I'll look into it later
[10:43] <Znuff> wastedfluid, dude, just stick the cd in there
[10:43] <Pelo> mayorbuttes,    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf   that should get x fixed soyou an boot the gui  from there come back andwe'll try to get your cardworking
[10:43] <emun> help how do i install Realplayer 10 on ubuntu Feisty
[10:43] <Znuff> wastedfluid, there's nothing special to do
[10:43] <wastedfluid> the ubuntu cd?
[10:43] <Znuff> wastedfluid, yes
[10:43] <wastedfluid> stick my 64-bit ubuntu cd in for firefox 32-bit?
[10:43] <mrcreativity> emun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods#head-6660c7f44edb9d54e6fa9e04c825e0f9540d6107
[10:43] <Pelo> mayorbuttes,  wait typos ,   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:44] <wastedfluid> Okay.  I'll give it a wirl.
[10:44] <linxuz3r> wow
[10:44] <Pelo> wastedfluid,  that sounds so gay
[10:44] <linxuz3r> direct x support?
[10:44] <Znuff> wastedfluid, no dude, download the 32bit version!
[10:44] <wastedfluid> Pelo: LOL.
[10:44] <Znuff> wastedfluid, of UBUNTU.
[10:44] <Pelo> linxeh,  no  xserver support
[10:44] <emun> mrcreativity, thanks
[10:44] <stefg> !cedega | linxuz3r
[10:44] <mrcreativity> ur welcome
[10:44] <ubotu> linxuz3r: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[10:45] <h3xis> emun you dont need the actual player. you just need the codecs that allow you to do so so that you can play them in totem/mplayer
[10:45] <`AnthraX> Pelo sorry for saying this for the 3rd time man, i just want to make sure if you got the link i gave you ...
[10:45] <wastedfluid> Znuff; oh.  No way am I installing the 32-bit edition of Ubuntu.  I'd just do the tutorial to get 32-bit version of Firefox to install on the 64-bit system.  Re-installing the 32-bit edition is even more wokr than the tutorial I read.. lol
[10:45] <Pelo> `AnthraX,  if you want me to see the links  prefix my nick in the line with the link in it
[10:45] <spark_> hi all
[10:45] <Znuff> wastedfluid, suite yourself
[10:45] <wastedfluid> it would be nice, though
[10:45] <`AnthraX> Pelo : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22035/
[10:45] <Pelo> `AnthraX,  and donT try to pm me, I block pms
[10:45] <`AnthraX> :)
[10:45] <`AnthraX> yea
[10:46] <`AnthraX> i will not try that..
[10:46] <stefg> wastedfluid: wait until you want to watch flash or wmv-streams :-)
[10:46] <`AnthraX> :/
[10:46] <wastedfluid> I already can't watch them
[10:46] <wastedfluid> It hurts.
[10:46] <Pelo> `AnthraX,  that's the way , what is this link about anyway, ? what is the problem  ?
[10:46] <coolgeek> guys, why cant i get gaim to close to system tray?
[10:46] <Armageddon00> Where is a website that I can dump my error logs to?
[10:46] <wastedfluid> Armageddon00: ; pastebin.ca
[10:46] <`AnthraX> Pelo this is the problem: E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:46] <`AnthraX> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:46] <Armageddon00> wastedfluid: thank you
[10:46] <stefg> Armageddon00: /topic
[10:47] <coolgeek> any one?
[10:47] <wastedfluid> Blah.  I probably would be easier to install the 32-bit version of Ubuntu.
[10:47] <Pelo> `AnthraX,  I see,  remove that line from sources.list it doesnt, belong there  and you shoudlnT, be using automatics anyway, it causes more problems then it solves but if you insist that line is a command for the terminal , not a repos
[10:47] <Armageddon00> stefg: Oh, hah, I didn't even see that in the topic
[10:47] <coolgeek> ive set the option in gaim to minimize to system tray, but when i click close or minimize it doest work
[10:48] <wastedfluid> coolgek - When you hit X, it doesn't close to tray?
[10:48] <lemare> Odd -- mine works
[10:48] <SirBob1701> whtas the command so that you can address someone in the main chat?
[10:48] <coolgeek> no it closes the app and nothing in the system tray
[10:48] <`AnthraX> hmm ok
[10:48] <coolgeek> wastedfluid: nope. just closes
[10:48] <murlox> maybe upgrading to pidgin would solve it
[10:48] <h3xis> SirBob1701 you um, type their name and press tab to autocomplete the nick
[10:48] <Pelo> SirBob1701, just use their nick in each line
[10:49] <kaostikone> i need help modifying apache config to add php on ubuntu can anyone give me a step by step?
[10:49] <SirBob1701> Pelo: ok
[10:49] <coolgeek> wastedfluid: any ideas?
[10:49] <Azrael---> I'm going to murder somebody soon.
[10:49] <Pelo> SirBob1701,  yes just like that
[10:49] <wastedfluid> *shrug*
[10:49] <wastedfluid> I'd ask again.
[10:49] <`AnthraX> oleeeee
[10:49] <`AnthraX> it fixed
[10:49] <coolgeek> lol
[10:49] <`AnthraX> thanks Pelo
[10:49] <coolgeek> any one else?
[10:49] <`AnthraX> :))))))))))
[10:49] <`AnthraX> :))))))))))
[10:49] <Azrael---> kaostikone: There are a multitude of tutorials for that on the web.
[10:49] <`AnthraX> i was gonna format again
[10:49] <h3xis> coolgeek i havent been following, what do you need?
[10:49] <`AnthraX> :/
[10:49] <stefg> !traffic
[10:49] <coolgeek> gaim not closing to system tray issue
[10:49] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[10:49] <mayorbuttes_> Hey guys
[10:49] <mayorbuttes_> Sorry bout that
[10:49] <danfg> hey guys, where do i find the ubuntu startup/shutdown sounds, in what directory are they usually?
[10:49] <mayorbuttes_> I froze before I got an answer from any of you guys.
[10:49] <Armageddon00> Anyone here know a little about cdrecord errors?  I get a "write track data: error after XXXXX bytes" everytime I try to burn an iso. (The number in XXXXX varies each time but its usually 600,000+)?
[10:50] <Azrael---> Pelo, what was that for?
[10:50] <coolgeek> h3xis: ive set gaim so its supposed to close to the system tray but it doesnt work
[10:50] <Armageddon00> The error log is here http://pastebin.ca/503325
[10:50] <pirk> how do I play .mid filesin ubuntu?
[10:50] <stefg> Armageddon00: dirty drive ?
[10:50] <h3xis> coolgeek you mean to disable the icon?
[10:50] <POVaddct> pirk: install timidity
[10:51] <mayorbuttes_> Pelo: dunno if you're still here or not, but I never got an answer if you happened to tell me
[10:51] <coolgeek> h3xis: ? disable the icon? No.... So i want to minimize the program to the system tray, instead of the task bar..
[10:51] <Armageddon00> stefg: Heh, It was a discount one at staples so I'm asuming its broken in some way shape or form.  I suppose I could try air dusting it, but it reads fine, its only when it tries to write that it bombs.
[10:51] <pirk> POVaddct: is that a separate player
[10:51] <POVaddct> pirk: yes
[10:51] <kaostikone> kewl thats nice that theres tutorials but that doesn't and isnt as efficient as having some one help thats what this chan is for right???
[10:51] <tideline> Armageddon00: did you check the md5sum?
[10:51] <pirk> POVaddct: thanks
[10:52] <paer> Znuff: do you know how I can get rtorrent to pick up on the download I have done with gnome-btdownload? Or will the already downloaded 2gb be just waste?
[10:52] <wastedfluid> kaostikone: the people who waste most of their day helping people probably would appreciate it if you'd actually use the tutorials.
[10:52] <h3xis> coolgeek sorry, read what you said wrong. how are you doing it? you just close gaim and it stays in the sys tray
[10:52] <Armageddon00> tideline: No, I'll check it but I doubt that is the problem, it happens with every ISO i have tried
[10:52] <Pelo> mayorbuttes,  sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  that will get your x reset to use a vesa driver ,come back after so we can give a shot at getting you some real drivers for your ati card
[10:52] <coolgeek> yep but that doesnt work
[10:52] <coolgeek> h3xis: yes but it doesnt work
[10:52] <mayorbuttes_> thanks pelo
[10:52] <tideline> Armageddon00: can you record anything at all?
[10:52] <Pelo> Azrael---,  I don'T accept pm anymore
[10:52] <h3xis> coolgeek are you using 2 b6?
[10:52] <coolgeek> h3xis: 2 b6?
[10:52] <h3xis> coolgeek gaim 2 beta 6
[10:53] <Armageddon00> tideline: (All of these are dummies FYI, but it happens on real discs too) I dummy wrote a txt file with the string "Hello World" and that didn't bomb with an error
[10:53] <coolgeek> h3xis: yes
[10:53] <Pelo> Armageddon00, I donT' think you can use cdrecord to burn an iso
[10:53] <h3xis> coolgeek try reinstalling it. sudo apt-get --reinstall install gaim
[10:53] <kaostikone> Nd
[10:54] <Armageddon00> Pelo: Why not, Isn't that one of the designated uses?
[10:54] <mayorbuttes_> Pelo: alrighty, just went through all the steps.
[10:54] <ubuntu__> hello in the xterm con can i see hidden files in the directoty
[10:54] <h3xis> ubuntu__, yes do ls -a
[10:55] <ubuntu__> ty
[10:55] <ice9> how can I get 720p or 1080i using ubuntu feisty with a 6600 GT card
[10:55] <Pelo> Armageddon00, iso is a form of archive  I donT think cdrecord actulay unpacks before recording, but i could be wrong
[10:55] <stefg> !cli | ubuntu__
[10:55] <Armageddon00> Pelo: Infact, a quick grep of the manpage for cdrecord shows theres a paramater for isosize
[10:55] <ubotu> ubuntu__: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:55] <ice9> !hdtv
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <asanchez> h3xis, sorry, do you know how to collaborate with ubuntu hardware support?
[10:55] <Pelo> Armageddon00, ok , I was offereing an opinion
[10:55] <Armageddon00> Pelo: Well, I'm up to try anything, what other tools are available?
[10:55] <ice9> !nvidia
[10:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:55] <h3xis> asanchez can you be more specific?
[10:55] <ubuntu__> how do i know witch r the hiddens?
[10:55] <bezao> my ubuntu cant boot, i'm gettin this message as the last as appear on the screen, SCSI device sda: 156368016 512-byte hdwr sector - sda: write partition is off, whats wrong? i just installed ubuntu and it cant boot :S
[10:55] <Pelo> mayorbuttes,  did you manage to start x ?
[10:56] <asanchez> i have send the report to hwdb.ubuntu.com
[10:56] <mayorbuttes_> Pelo: it starts fine as root in recovery mode.
[10:56] <Pelo> Armageddon00,  in gui gnome or kde   gnomebaker and k3b work well
[10:56] <h3xis> asanchez afraid i don't :/ i dont even run ubuntu
[10:56] <ubuntu__> how do i know with r the hiddens
[10:56] <asanchez> h3xis, we receive at work the latest hardware
[10:56] <tideline> Armageddon00: looking at your paste did you use the livecd*.iso for all isos?  I wonder if it doesn't like the *
[10:56] <mayorbuttes_> Pelo: it's when I try to boot up normally it doesn't work correctly
[10:56] <Pelo> mayorbuttes, still ?
[10:56] <h3xis> ubuntu__ the hidden ones have a dot in front of the file names
[10:56] <mayorbuttes_> Pelo: oh god it's all jaggedy now
[10:56] <lemare> Ubuntu boots VERY slowly on my system. And I have 4GB of RAM and a C2D 2.3 wtf
[10:56] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: hey hey
[10:57] <Armageddon00> tideline: All try typing the whole thing out.  (what a pain...)
[10:57] <neverblue> what is a great IDE that I can use for web design/programming?  I really need something with highlighting, tag/bracket matching, php handling, CSS, etc...
[10:57] <LivesessionHELP> help, I cannot boot to my ubuntu partition, I need to install grub to boot into my linux partition and cant I pasted my fdisk -l here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22040/
[10:57] <h3xis> lemare disable the splash and watch it boot to see if anything weird is going on
[10:57] <Armageddon00> Pelo: Ok i'll see if baker is installed, does it come with the standard install?
[10:57] <asanchez> neverblue, phpeclipse
[10:57] <neverblue> good with CSS asanchez ?
[10:57] <lemare> Anyone know why Ubuntu boots very slowly (2 mins) on 4GB of RAM, 10RPM, and 2.3C2D?
[10:57] <Pelo> mayorbuttes,  I was just giving you some general advice, to get you going , it clearly didnT work,  ask again in a few minutes maybe someone else can help
[10:57] <LivesessionHELP> can someone walk me through installing grub to load /dev/sdb1
[10:57] <lemare> thanks h3xis I will try that
[10:58] <drega> anything special in ubuntu I need to do to get my cron scripts to execute?
[10:58] <bezao> my ubuntu cant boot, i'm gettin this message as the last as appear on the screen, SCSI device sda: 156368016 512-byte hdwr sector - sda: write partition is off, whats wrong? i just installed ubuntu and it cant boot :S
[10:58] <Pelo> Armageddon00,  not by default    sudo apt-get install gnomebaker ,   look in the tools for burn cd image
[10:58] <h3xis> lemare in your grub menu.lst you need to remove "splash" from your kernel parameters
[10:58] <asanchez> neverblue, I think that cssed is better with CSS
[10:58] <mayorbuttes_> pelo alrighty roo
[10:58] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: hello
[10:58] <Azrael---> wow, everybody's gone so quiet...
[10:58] <neverblue> so looks like more than one tool is needed
[10:58] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: do still have time to help me out?
[10:58] <LivesessionHELP> help, I cannot boot to my ubuntu partition, I need to install grub to boot into my linux partition and cant I pasted my fdisk -l here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22040/ can someone walk me through installing grub to load /dev/sdb1
[10:58] <asanchez> neverblue, cssed its only a CSS Editor, PHPEclipse its a whole IDE
[10:58] <tideline> Armageddon00: try dev=0,0,0
[10:59] <lemare> Sweet I'll try it H3! Why does it do this on my system but people who much much slower systems Ubuntu boots quick?
[10:59] <Pelo> bezao, install again, there is something wrong with the partition it can't read it
[10:59] <asanchez> neverblue, what IDE are you using now?
[10:59] <neverblue> is it just Eclpise?
[10:59] <tideline> Armageddon00: try this first cdrecord -scanbus
[10:59] <bezao> pelo ok.
[10:59] <GonfOl> here's one for you: I just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy.  When i reboot, grub seemed to have created two new listings and kept the old kernel listings. Can i just delete the old ones in the menu.lst?
[10:59] <neverblue> EClipse*
[10:59] <Flannel> LivesessionHELP: Why do you want to install grub to sdb1?
[10:59] <neverblue> im using Bluefish
[10:59] <Pelo> LivesessionHELP, do you get the grub menu at all ?
[10:59] <h3xis> lemare no idea, you'll have to see :p
[10:59] <Armageddon00> tideline: Ok i'll try those, using the full name made no difference
[11:00] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: I'll see what I can do, I have about 30 minutes left before I leave work.
[11:00] <h3xis> lemare how long is it taking?
[11:00] <asanchez> Eclipse its a multi language IDE, you can add PHP plugin
[11:00] <LivesessionHELP> Flannel: I want to get into my ubuntu and cant
[11:00] <LivesessionHELP> Pelo:  thats correct
[11:00] <LivesessionHELP> I need to install it
[11:00] <neverblue> yeah, thats what I thought, its a plugin for it
[11:00] <paer> Znuff: np I found it out
[11:00] <Flannel> LivesessionHELP: right, but usually thats done by installing GRUB to hd0, in your case, sda
[11:00] <paer> Znuff: (just point it to the directory)
[11:00] <LivesessionHELP> Flannel: yes can you help me do that
[11:00] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: weren't you setting up a wired and wireless network the other day
[11:00] <Pelo> !grub > LivesessionHELP  check for a private msg from ubotu
[11:00] <LivesessionHELP> im in my live cd now
[11:00] <Yancho> is there any way to test if the video card drivers are working .. something like dxdiag for windows pls ?
[11:00] <Flannel> LivesessionHELP: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:00] <Pelo> never mind
[11:00] <rageagaintthis> where do i go to setup hibernate on fiesty.  So that after one hour of inactivity it hibernates
[11:01] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: ok. first i'm at the point to remove the install CD and hit enter to reboot. Should I have the ethernet cable plugged in before irestart?
[11:01] <GonfOl> !grub
[11:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:01] <Flannel> LivesessionHELP: follow the (second set of) instructions there.  "While Overwriting the windows bootloader"
[11:01] <stefg> Yancho: glxinfo
[11:01] <mischko> Is there a default "preseed" file for ubuntu installs so you can install a server without attaching a monitor?
[11:01] <LivesessionHELP> Flannel: I didnt install anything I just formatted my hd0
[11:01] <LivesessionHELP> and lost grub
[11:01] <mar77i> hi there. could someone explain me why my standard user is not authorized to shut down the pc (from bash), and that the button "shut down" is missing on the corresponding window?
[11:01] <Jowen> Hello people.
[11:01] <Flannel> LivesessionHELP: right, those are still the instructions you need to follow.  Install grub on sda (not sda1, sda)
[11:01] <`AnthraX> !paste / `anthrax
[11:01] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: yes, that was me
[11:02] <`AnthraX> :P
[11:02] <LivesessionHELP> ok
[11:02] <Pelo> later folks
[11:02] <Armageddon00> tideline: Both of those commands say they cannot open SCSI driver.  I have an IDE CD Drive, I only have one SATA HDD (the one I'm on).  The cd is located at /dev/hdc
[11:02] <PsyDev> can anyone explain why when i install ubuntu it, after the ubuntu logo,just stays at the blinking cursor screen forever?
[11:02] <`AnthraX> :P
[11:02] <PsyDev> this is the same regardless of safe graphics mode
[11:02] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: I would plug it it, so it will detect when you retsart
[11:02] <`AnthraX> loool @ pelo quit
[11:02] <neverblue> asanchez, can you get the plugin (php) within eclipse? I dont see it
[11:03] <tideline> Armageddon00: try cdrecord -scanbus
[11:03] <crookshanks> how can i specify specify packages i want to install from gutsy without upgrading my whole system?
[11:03] <Jowen> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to work with wireless on my Compaq ?
[11:03] <lemare> yes
[11:03] <LivesessionHELP> root@ubuntu:~# grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda
[11:03] <LivesessionHELP> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[11:03] <LivesessionHELP> Could not find device for /boot/boot: Not found or not a block device.
[11:03] <LivesessionHELP> root@ubuntu:~#
[11:03] <Flannel> !prevu | crookshanks
[11:03] <LivesessionHELP> im lost
[11:03] <LivesessionHELP> heh
[11:03] <lemare> Enable wireless
[11:03] <ubotu> crookshanks: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[11:03] <LivesessionHELP> im in my live cd
[11:03] <gcc_> hola all, i'm having some trouble with an ipod, anybody have time to walk a n00b through the problem?
[11:03] <crookshanks> Flannel: thanks :)
[11:03] <mar77i> psyDev: x does not start properly. u can't really find out what's wrong, because you don't really get an error message? think you
[11:03] <Jowen> How can I enable wireless?
[11:03] <lemare> There are too many people here....damn
[11:03] <neverblue> !pastebin | LivesessionHELP
[11:03] <ubotu> LivesessionHELP: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:03] <lemare> Right click the wireless icon on the top panel
[11:03] <ubeuntwo> Does ubuntu have any sort of update roll-back feature? I updated and rebooted and am getting an error about unable to mount file system while booting.
[11:04] <Flannel> LivesessionHELP: Follow those instructions.  Theyre really well layed out.
[11:04] <lemare> select your wireless (or steal someone elses)
[11:04] <h3xis> gcc_ i dont have an ipod, but try asking your question
[11:04] <PsyDev> mari77: yea there's no error message, it just stays forever
[11:04] <wastedfluid> gcc_: what problems are you having?
[11:04] <PsyDev> it works on another computer, though
[11:04] <rageagaintthis> where do i go to setup hibernate on fiesty.  So that after one hour of inactivity it hibernates, is it possible?
[11:04] <wastedfluid> I had problems getting all iPod programs to work except banshee.
[11:04] <ahmed> guys does any one know hot to disable xgl ?
[11:04] <wastedfluid> I forgot the package I downloaded to play mp3s
[11:04] <nixblicker> hi guys
[11:04] <cion> hey can someone tell me how to gain privileges to mount usb pen drives?
[11:04] <mar77i> psyDev: got the same problem after having the pc "asleep"
[11:04] <traian> hi there
[11:04] <lemare> you don't want to hibernate. it leaks data so people can steal your shit...whoops i mean thats for Microsoft !!! hahahahaha
[11:04] <traian> i got a situation
[11:04] <ahmed> guys does any one know hot to disable xgl ?
[11:04] <nixblicker> today I installed apt-build to compile gaim with bonjour support
[11:04] <mar77i> try to start ubuntu in console mode from grub
[11:04] <Alberio> wow. flody
[11:05] <nexous> How do I install the pixmap engine and mist engine?
[11:05] <Alberio> floody*
[11:05] <tideline> Armageddon00: OK since you don't have a scsi drive, try cdrecord -dev ATAPI:/dev/hdc -data cd_image.iso
[11:05] <gcc_> I can plug in the ipod, and it says do not disconnect, dmesg lists it as sdb, but i can't mount it and dosfsck terminates with an i/o error
[11:05] <PsyDev> mar77i: how do i do that?
[11:05] <Armageddon00> tideline: It spits out TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM, scsidev: /dev/hdc, devname: /dev/hdc, scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun -2, linux sg driver version: 3.5.27, wodim version: 1.1.2 scsi buffer size: 64512 (<- is that a problem?)....
[11:05] <traian> only a program can use the souncard at a time
[11:05] <mischko> Is there a default "preseed" file for ubuntu installs so you can install a server without attaching a monitor?
[11:05] <Jowen> Going to get my laptop.... and Ubuntu CD.
[11:05] <nixblicker> but when I download the sources with apt-build source gaim the following error appears
[11:05] <h3xis> ahmed ask #xgl
[11:05] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: ok it has detected the wired connection. do i go to /etc/network/interfaces and input my network details?
[11:05] <traian> if one program is using it if another tries to use it i get the resource busy message
[11:05] <gcc_> well, rather, i can mount it periodically, but not now
[11:06] <mayorbuttes_> oh sweet jesus.
[11:06] <nixblicker> ok, no error, but a warning, the gpg-key for the package is missing
[11:06] <ice9> does anyone know how to configure feisty for hdtv 720p 1080i
[11:06] <tideline> Armageddon00: ok try the last one with ATAPI
[11:06] <mayorbuttes_> Just tried rebooting the computer, and I've got this crazy green bar at the top of the screen.
[11:06] <mar77i> PsyDev: grub is the first thing started when booting. you have to press enter or something...
[11:06] <nixblicker> the Key-ID is A2D7D292
[11:06] <ubeuntwo> Is there an emergency boot disc I can use for my ubuntu fiesty fawn so I can backup my files? X won't load...
[11:06] <mayorbuttes_> it's still the loading bar, but the bar is almost all the way across
[11:06] <wastedfluid> brb.  Testing out a new wireless program.  this one is driving me nuts.
[11:06] <traian> dows anybody know?
[11:06] <mayorbuttes_> and there's some weird green bar at the very top of the screen
[11:06] <nixblicker> is that an official ubuntu-key?
[11:07] <gcc_> wow lots of people
[11:07] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: yes you can, what did it detect?
[11:07] <Armageddon00> tideline: Oh, darn!  Same error as before except the hex numbers changed =/
[11:07] <PsyDev> mar77i: yea i know... im booting from a LiveCD, trying to install ubuntu... what option should I choose?
[11:07] <mayorbuttes_> pelo: ok, it booted into x... although it seems it's really really laggy.
[11:07] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: do you have gui?
[11:07] <cion> i can't mount pen drives someone can help me?
[11:07] <h3xis> cion what's wrong
[11:07] <gcc_> h3xis, wastedfluid, seen this before?
[11:07] <mayorbuttes_> pelo: aka, I move the mouse, 2 seconds later it jumps to where I moved it.
[11:07] <tideline> Armageddon00: so nothing records?
[11:07] <h3xis> gcc_ seen what?
[11:07] <tideline> even files that are not iso's
[11:07] <Armageddon00> tideline: It also mentions that "wodim cannot fixate disk."
[11:08] <tideline> Armageddon00: how old is the drive?
[11:08] <cion> h3xis when i plug pen drive it says i dont have privileges to mount it although it finds it perfectly
[11:08] <Armageddon00> tideline: nothing.
[11:08] <auridius> Hi, maybe a weird question, but is it possible to configure sound effects to keystrokes?
[11:08] <traian> pliz?
[11:08] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: if so you can go to network under administration menu and input you network info there as well
[11:08] <h3xis> cion so do it using sudo
[11:08] <Armageddon00> tideline: Few years?  No more than 7, i think I got it in 2002ish.
[11:08] <tideline> Armageddon00: what speed were you setting?
[11:08] <gcc_> h3xis: my ipod mounts periodically at best, i don't get the icon when it does, and when it doesnt (the vast majority of the time) dmesg still detects but spits out a ton of i/o errors etc
[11:08] <cion> h3xis every time i have to do it that way?
[11:09] <sbalneav> cion: make sure you're in the group "plugdev"
[11:09] <Zara_thrustra> hello?
[11:09] <h3xis> cion it should do it by itself; but i'm an old linux user so that's how i do it
[11:09] <Armageddon00> tideline: "speed=1" Is one of my command line arguments, is that in the correct format?
[11:09] <cion> sbalneav: how do i check that?
[11:09] <cion> h3xis: im newbie
[11:09] <mar77i> PsyDev: don't know exactly what choices you have, but try to start in console/bash mode only and then start one thing after another...
[11:09] <h3xis> gcc_ can you mount it manually though?
[11:09] <Zara_thrustra> hey
[11:09] <tideline> Armageddon00: try something like 24
[11:09] <h3xis> gcc_ i assume you can mount ipods :p
[11:09] <sbalneav> cion: Go to Administration -> Users and groups
[11:10] <mar77i> hi there. could someone explain me why my standard user is not authorized to shut down the pc (from bash), and that the button "shut down" is missing on the corresponding window?
[11:10] <Zara_thrustra> how do I run ubuntu on a nVidia 6800 pc?
[11:10] <Armageddon00> tideline: Ok
[11:10] <h3xis> cion it doesnt automatically mount it and pop up the contents in nautilus?
[11:10] <Zara_thrustra> it tells me that the video mode cannot be shown
[11:10] <gcc_> h3xis: i can type it, but it usually just sits there
[11:10] <cion> h3xis: nope
[11:10] <h3xis> gcc_ maybe your ipod is bad? :S
[11:10] <Armageddon00> tideline: Should i still use the -scanbus option?
[11:10] <cion> sbalneav: im on it
[11:10] <tideline> Armageddon00: wait are you using Feisty?
[11:11] <gcc_> h3xis: quite possibly, but is there any way to tell for sure? i've been using it with Sabayon until i decided to switch to ubuntu, seemed to work as well as anything else did in sabayon...
[11:11] <h3xis> cion okay, i havent used gnome in years but i think there's an option in the preferences somewhere that specify what it will do when a removeable device is inserted. i dont remember what it's called in the preferences - maybe Media or something?
[11:11] <Armageddon00> tideline: 7.04? I think thats feisty.
[11:11] <Zara_thrustra> can anyone here help me?
[11:11] <tideline> Armageddon00: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/109211
[11:11] <tideline> Armageddon00: I think you are a victim of this bug
[11:11] <Ben_> quick question- i'm wondering which type of ubuntu to download (standard personal computer, 64 bit AMD and Intel, of Sun UltraSPARC based). I have a white 2GHz early 2006 macBook. specs are at http://support.apple.com/specs/macbook/macbook.html
[11:11] <h3xis> gcc_ whyd you switch to ubuntu?
[11:11] <Ben_> any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks!
[11:11] <mar77i> PsyDev: I'll have a look, mayhap find something for you
[11:12] <Neil3> Ben_, is it a g4?
[11:12] <cion> h3xis gotta go i'll solve the thing tomorrow, thx
[11:12] <Neil3> or intel?
[11:12] <cion> bye
[11:12] <Ben_> intel.
[11:12] <h3xis> Neil3 it's intel, they never made ppc macbooks
[11:12] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: ok. lemme see if i can get it right. I've found where you are talking about. I do have GUI.
[11:12] <Armageddon00> tideline: Ugh, it may not be an external, but the output does look painfully similar.  Any suggestions on linux friendly drives?
[11:12] <h3xis> Ben_ go with personal standard
[11:12] <Neil3> ah silly me i'm half asleep... i work with the things every day hehe
[11:12] <h3xis> :p
[11:12] <gcc_> h3xis: parents wanted something a little more stable. i love sabayon- was a dev for a while- but they need something that inspires more polished than bleeding edge
[11:12] <Zara_thrustra> hello?
[11:12] <Neil3> we have a bunch of powerbooks though
[11:13] <jtmoney> how come it's taking so long for ubuntu to release an updated package for gaim/pidgin? it went from beta to final, i figured that would be kind of important to roll-out
[11:13] <h3xis> gcc_ blasphemy.
[11:13] <Ben_> i'm sot sure though, doesn't it say that i should use the 64 bit one for intel?
[11:13] <insomninja> My bluetooth phone and computer can see each other, is there any way I can make them talk to each other, for file transfer etc?
[11:13] <jtmoney> Neil3: sell me one
[11:13] <tideline> Armageddon00: I don't have any experience with external drive personally, but I would expect most anything USB would be ok
[11:13] <Ben_> *not
[11:13] <Flannel> jtmoney: It wont be put in the releases that are currently out.  It'll be in Gutsy.  Gaim Beta6 is in Feisty.
[11:13] <Neil3> how much?
[11:13] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: the network manager has a place to set static or dhcp
[11:13] <h3xis> Ben_ 64bit under linux doesnt work so well, and if you have an early macbook it's using the core duo which is not 64bit
[11:13] <Ben_> okay. thanks a ton!
[11:13] <Armageddon00> tideline: I have a spot for an internal, are there any hardware manufacturers who support linux well?
[11:13] <jtmoney> Flannel: wait, i have to wait 6 months for a package to go from b6 to final?
[11:14] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: you may still need to add you dns servers to /etc/resolv.conf
[11:14] <tideline> Armageddon00: Desktop or lappy?
[11:14] <Armageddon00> tideline: Desktop
[11:14] <Neil3> Ben_, afaik you cant use stuff like flash/java in the 64bit ubuntu
[11:14] <tideline> Armageddon00: I think I use a pretty Cheep Walmart special at home, seams to work ok
[11:14] <jtmoney> there's a workgroup
[11:14] <gcc_> h3xis: <shrugs> hey, ive got my parents using linux, im willing to hold off on source code for a few years ;)
[11:14] <jtmoney> *workaround
[11:14] <tideline> cant remember the brand
[11:14] <Flannel> jtmoney: Ubuntu freezes the versions of stuff per release.  Only bugfixes/security stuff once repos are frozen (well, there are rare exceptions).
[11:14] <Armageddon00> Neil3: You can use nspluginwrapper to get 32bit flash into firefox 64 IIRC
[11:15] <h3xis> gcc_ i really have no idea. the only time ive seen i/o errors has been from bad devices or a misconfigured system
[11:15] <pirk> I installed timidity but it tells me to configure it to use alsa Enable Alsa Sequencer first by editing /etc/default/timidity.
[11:15] <Armageddon00> tideline: Ok I'll do some googling around, thanks for your help
[11:15] <rthompson> where do i get no cd crack for ubuntu
[11:15] <pirk> but that file is empty
[11:15] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: cam I not set it using the gui network manager? there is a tab for DNS servers
[11:15] <tideline> Arsorry couldnt help more
[11:15] <h3xis> rthompson are you serious?
[11:15] <ice9> ok so I used the binary nvidia drivers from there x started just fine but I can only get gnome to work and nothing else doesn't even prompt me for other managers
[11:15] <ice9> what's going on
[11:15] <rthompson> yes
[11:15] <intelikey> ok i have compiled the information.   i don't know where to drop the info,  i'm not sure if it's kernel side (probably is)   or in the app (mc = midnight commander).     i'm not going to regester with launchpad but if anyone is interested in the bug report i can dcc a copy of the text file   or pastebin it  at your discression.
[11:15] <Armageddon00> O.o, a no cd crack for ubuntu? What are you talking about...
[11:15] <intelikey> anybody interested ?  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36657
[11:16] <rthompson> i dont want to have to use the cd
[11:16] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: yes you can, I forgot about that tab
[11:16] <Zara_thrustra> ubuntu is opensource isn't it?
[11:16] <Zara_thrustra> then why crack it
[11:16] <h3xis> rthompson you have to if youre going to install it
[11:16] <gcc_> h3xis: yeah... i dunno, i suppose its possible that its just screwing up, was hoping that it was something easy to fix. What i know about ipods on linux- besides how to plug them in- wouldnt fill a midget's thimble
[11:16] <Armageddon00> rthompson: Then get floppies.
[11:17] <Jowen> OK, my "light" is on for wireless, and wireless is enabled, yet when I click on firefox, it says "server is not found". Any suggestions?
[11:17] <h3xis> gcc_ yeah, i dont have one; i just know you can mount them and use gtkpod :p
[11:17] <wastedfluid> hm.  Anyone ever killed a process(such as Konversation) - and then all your icons in your tray disappear?
[11:17] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: ok now if i want to make sure it's on the same domain as my xp box do i need to imput the domain name under the general tab?
[11:17] <gcc_> h3xis: ah well. thank you for your time
[11:17] <h3xis> :p
[11:17] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: yes if you are on a domain
[11:18] <Lunar_Lamp> !w32codecs
[11:18] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:18] <diego> Hi, how I can minimize thunderbird?!
[11:18] <Zara_thrustra> are there Sound Blaster Audigy drivers for ubuntu?
[11:18] <PurpZeY> swatFIRESTORM: You still trouble shooting that same issue?
[11:18] <diego> in kubuntu with beryl as Windows Manager
[11:18] <mar77i> why do I have to be su to shutdown -r? anyone?
[11:18] <Crane_> hello PurpZeY
[11:18] <PurpZeY> Hi.
[11:19] <swatF1RESTORM> PurpZeY: Kinda. I'm doing a fresh install and setting up the LAN before the wifi.
[11:19] <Armageddon00> diego: Are your minimize, maximize and close buttons missing?
[11:19] <Jowen> Could someone help me with my wireless for Ubuntu?
[11:19] <h3xis> Jowen what chipset
[11:19] <Jowen> let me see
[11:19] <Jowen> AMD sempron
[11:19] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: does domain name = primanry dns suffix?
[11:19] <diego> Armageddon00, sorry i mean minimize in the tray list of kde
[11:19] <PurpZeY> swatFIRESTORM: I take it then that there you couldn't figure out the problem?
[11:19] <Armageddon00> diego: nevermind then.
[11:19] <Flannel> mar77i: because shutting down a computer is dangerous on a multiuser system.  You have to know that it's ok to do it, so anyone isn't allowed to
[11:20] <diego> nevermind?!
[11:20] <h3xis> Jowen you gotta be more specific :p go into terminal and type lspci -vv. look for something that talks about your wireless card. often times it's described as a wireless controller or something
[11:20] <swatF1RESTORM> PurpZeY: I got it working yesterday but then once i went home and got on my wifi i couldn't get back on my LAN this morning. plus i think i screwed up some system files between fooling w/ beryl and trying to get the network situation down :-p
[11:20] <Armageddon00> diego: I thought it was a different problem, i dunno how to fix yours, I've never used thunderbird, I'm a webmail kind of person
[11:21] <wastedfluid> hm.  Anyone ever killed a process(such as Konversation) - and then all your icons in your tray disappear?  only icon still in my tray is the volume manager
[11:21] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: are you on a domain? if not then do not enter anything there
[11:21] <Jowen> ok, hang on...
[11:21] <diego> Do You use horde as webmail?
[11:21] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: most home networks are not on a "domain"
[11:21] <PurpZeY> swatFIRESTORM: Ack. What did you do using beryl? I just installed it, want to be sure not to make the same mistake.
[11:21] <Flannel> mar77i: because shutting down a computer is dangerous on a multiuser system.  You have to know that it's ok to do it, so anyone isn't allowed to
[11:21] <Armageddon00> diego: GMail.
[11:22] <diego> aha I can use horde..thx
[11:22] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: I am on a domain at work. that's the only LAN i need to join
[11:22] <h3xis> Jowen if you have no idea what to look for, go to www.pastebin.ca and paste the output there and give me the link and i'll find it
[11:22] <Zara_thrustra> I want to have a dual boot pc
[11:22] <diego> one software fewer ;)
[11:22] <neverblue> asanchez, do you just use a text editor in phpeclipse?
[11:22] <PurpZeY> Zata_thrustra: What is the question?
[11:23] <Armageddon00> diego: More harddrive space is always good.
[11:23] <Zara_thrustra> I want to be able to boot in linux if I open the bootup options, but I want it to default to XP
[11:23] <Zara_thrustra> because this computer is my families
[11:23] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: what i am unclear of is which name to put: the actual name that you would see at login or this xxx.local address i see when i ipconfig /all on my windows box
[11:23] <Flannel> Zara_thrustra: in /boot/grub/menu.lst, change the "default" option
[11:23] <asanchez> neverblue, im not a developer, people at my work uses phpeclipse for almost everything
[11:23] <Jowen> ok, I think I have it, bear with me....
[11:23] <mar77i> Flannel: but I might auto-su that command, right?
[11:23] <EADG02> Is anybody running seprate consecutive consoles on multi-monitor set up? (not in X, cli only :) I just want to know if it's possible...
[11:23] <PurpZeY> Zara_thrustra: Whenever Grub loads, it asks what operating system...and you can chage the default.
[11:23] <neverblue> asanchez, ahhh
[11:23] <Zara_thrustra> Flannel: is that after I install it?
[11:23] <Flannel> Zara_thrustra: yeah
[11:23] <daedra> Zara_thrustra: thus spake
[11:23] <PurpZeY> Zara_thrustra: Yes.
[11:23] <FutureMarine> What wireless cards are supported for ubuntu
[11:24] <Znuff> FutureMarine, atheros ^_^
[11:24] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: should be the address you see when you look at other boxes
[11:24] <h3xis> FutureMarine basically anything broadcom, atheros, and intel
[11:24] <Jowen> Yikes, I cant type all of this....
[11:24] <wastedfluid> i use an atheros too ;] 
[11:24] <Jowen> :-)
[11:24] <Flannel> mar77i: what?  Ubuntu uses sudo.  If you'd like, you could give everyone access to sudo, and restrict their sudo usage to shutdown only.
[11:24] <h3xis> Jowen use pastebin.ca :p
[11:24] <FutureMarine> what about Netgear
[11:24] <tobyr> Really stupid question - But how do I launch Compiz?
[11:24] <tWs_Mortorojo> Im havin some problems tryin to boot ubuntu can anybody help me
[11:24] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: so it you see box2.network.lan the network.lan is your domain
[11:24] <h3xis> FutureMarine netgear uses atheros
[11:24] <wastedfluid> what chipsets do netgear use?
[11:24] <tobyr> I got compiz --replace butit doesn't seem very elegant?
[11:24] <wastedfluid> okay, if netgear uses atheros.. you're fine.
[11:24] <FutureMarine> o ok
[11:24] <swatF1RESTORM> PurpZeY: not sure really but something I did caused beryl not to work on startup for me. then a removal/reinstall didn't even work... so i started over :-D
[11:24] <stefg> !wifi | FutureMarine
[11:25] <ubotu> FutureMarine: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:25] <sldkfj> tobyr, ask in #Ubuntu-effects
[11:25] <tobyr> Thanks :>
[11:25] <Jowen> Eathernet Controller: Realtalk Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C
[11:25] <FutureMarine> how do I use it do I just restart my computer and it will detect it automatically
[11:25] <PurpZeY> swatFIRESTORM: Got it.
[11:25] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:25] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: ok I'll try the .local address
[11:25] <tobyr> Anyone here with the Toshiba Black Bar problem with an nVidia card?
[11:25] <h3xis> Jowen sounds like your hard ethernet port; dont think that's it
[11:25] <tobyr> I've sorted mine - Just wanted to know if anyone else needs help?
[11:25] <Zara_thrustra> Flannel: I have a problem that I don't have audio when I boot into linux tho, the audio card is a creative sound blaster audigy 2 ZS
[11:25] <Jowen> ok, let me have another look...
[11:25] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: should I save this as a 'Location' ?
[11:25] <Flannel> FutureMarine: I don't think you can.  But, #ubuntu-effects wil be able to help you there
[11:26] <PurpZeY> swatFIRESTORM: So far so good for me, cross your fingers.
[11:26] <FutureMarine> ok
[11:26] <wastedfluid> h3xis: ever had icons(Gaim, Banshee, Etc.) not appear in your tray anymore?
[11:26] <h3xis> wastedfluid nope, dont use gnome :p
[11:26] <tWs_Mortorojo> Y when I try to boot ubuntu it says Loading hardware drivers then it starts to roll numbers and some commands over and over and never stopping
[11:26] <wastedfluid> o
[11:27] <swatF1RESTORM> PurpZeY: almost missed your message.. that's a (1) in my name, not and ( i ) 8-)
[11:27] <Jowen> Broadcom Corperation BCM4318 [airforce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless lan conroller.
[11:27] <swatF1RESTORM> PurpZey: and fingers crossed (y)
[11:27] <rthompson> ok swatF1RESTORM
[11:27] <wastedfluid> JOwen; that's it.
[11:27] <swatF1RESTORM> rthopmson: hey
[11:27] <FutureMarine> what audio cards are supported?
[11:27] <tobyr> Anyone with Toshiba Black Bar problems:- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2631551#post2631551
[11:27] <Flannel> !hardware | FutureMarine
[11:27] <ubotu> FutureMarine: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:28] <dennda> !upgrade
[11:28] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:28] <h3xis> Jowen yeah, that's it. it should work out of the box. what version of ubuntu are you using? edgy, dapper, feisty?
[11:28] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: not sure about location
[11:28] <tWs_Mortorojo> Problems trying to Boot can anybody help
[11:28] <Zara_thrustra> I don't have sound in linux!, someone help me please, I have a creative labs sound blaster audigy 2 ZS
[11:28] <Jowen> feisty
[11:28] <FutureMarine> thanks
[11:28] <h3xis> Jowen and it doesnt work?
[11:28] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: is the location a tab in the network manager?
[11:28] <Jowen> Light is on (the blue one), wireless is enabled, yet no internet.
[11:29] <h3xis> Jowen i assume youre using ethernet now then?
[11:29] <didi> hi
[11:29] <Jowen> I'm beside my laptop on my desktop.
[11:29] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:29] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:29] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: location is at the top of the window just under the title bar. there is a save, delete, and apply button.
[11:29] <h3xis> Jowen okay. look on your laptop in the system tray. do you see something that looks like a disconnected plug?
[11:29] <Jowen> let me see, h3xis
[11:30] <stefg> !effects | ahmed
[11:30] <ubotu> ahmed: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[11:30] <Flannel> ahmed: I don't think you can.  But, #ubuntu-effects wil be able to tell you for sure
[11:30] <ubuntu_> hi my live cd doesn't show my partitions
[11:30] <tWs_Mortorojo> can somebody help me figure out y ubuntu gets stuck on boot
[11:30] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: I believe it is where you can save it as a location so you can actually have different locations saved if you move around
[11:31] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, define stuck
[11:31] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: I'll have to check into it or maybe someone else here will know for sure
[11:31] <Jowen> h3xis, all I see is the little tinny screens, with a little ! in between, my battery life, and the sound icon. Thazzit.
[11:31] <FutureMarine> how do I get my sound card to work I dont think alsa detected it, I need help.
[11:31] <wastedfluid> a lot more than I have in my tray :(
[11:31] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: I'll just try it. it *shouldn't* mess anything up.
[11:31] <h3xis> Jowen okay in terminal type "nm-applet &" without quotes and hit enter
[11:31] <linux_stu> does ubuntu have ndiswrapper?
[11:32] <h3xis> linux_stu check and see
[11:32] <linux_stu> i tried
[11:32] <wastedfluid> lol
[11:32] <h3xis> and it's not there?
[11:32] <stefg> tWs_Mortorojo, FutureMarine :http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[11:32] <ubuntu_> hi my live cd doesn't show my partitions inside instalation program
[11:32] <linux_stu> nope h3xis
[11:32] <ubuntu__> sorry to ask y have lost my root usr passwor but i have how can i recover control of the computer
[11:32] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, well whin I tryedto boot the boot screen would get stuck at about 4 bars so i restarted in recovery mode and then it would say loading hardware driver, then starting rolling numbers and some commands over and over never ending for 12 hours
[11:32] <h3xis> linux_stu guess not then. you could install it
[11:32] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: I would think it to be OK, just name the location work or something
[11:32] <h3xis> linux_stu what chipset do you have?
[11:32] <Yuno> h3xis: hi again
[11:32] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, is a reinstall an option?
[11:32] <FutureMarine> thanks
[11:32] <h3xis> Yuno hey, any luck?
[11:32] <linux_stu> atheros
[11:32] <LjL> ubuntu__: why do you have a root user?
[11:33] <h3xis> linux_stu what model?
[11:33] <Jowen> h3xis, I got, [1]  8820
[11:33] <tobyr> Erk
[11:33] <Yuno> nope
[11:33] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, yes but i dont think it would since this is the second time i have tried to install it
[11:33] <h3xis> Jowen okay, look in the system tray now. it should be there. that's just the process ID so it's running
[11:33] <neverblue> what are you installing?
[11:33] <h3xis> Yuno what happened?
[11:33] <ubuntu__> i lost my root password how can i recover it
[11:33] <neverblue> which version/is it the alt CD or not?
[11:33] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: that's what I named it, lol... but now when i mouse over the network manager in the upper panel it says 'Manual network configuration'... shouldn't it say Wired Connection?
[11:33] <h3xis> ubuntu_ sudo passwd
[11:33] <Flannel> ubuntu__: Ubuntu doesn'thave a root password.  It uses sudo.
[11:33] <Flannel> h3xis: No.
[11:34] <Jowen> Now I have two little monitors with the "!" in it.
[11:34] <h3xis> Flannel if he wants one, it'll create one
[11:34] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: or is that something ubuntu does by default when it detects a new LAN?
[11:34] <ubuntu__> but i cant enter as root
[11:34] <h3xis> Jowen that sounds like that's it. close one of them
[11:34] <Flannel> h3xis: He probably doesn't want one.  He thinks he should have one, thinks he doesn't know it.  Doesn't know we don't have one.
[11:34] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, ive done it on both the alt and regular
[11:34] <Flannel> ubuntu__: that's correct.  You don't need to.  Ubuntu uses suo instead of a root account.
[11:34] <Flannel> !sudo | ubuntu_
[11:34] <ubotu> ubuntu_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:34] <h3xis> pft, sudo. su ftw
[11:34] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, 64?
[11:34] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, and the same thing happens
[11:35] <blackbutterfly> in which package can i find libXm.so.3?
[11:35] <Flannel> h3xis: This is #ubuntu, please play by the rules.
[11:35] <LjL> h3xis, you can have your own opinions fine, but please still to the supported advice in this channel
[11:35] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: that's just saying you set it up instead if it autodetecting
[11:35] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, 32bit P4 2.8ghz
[11:35] <neverblue> RAM?
[11:35] <LjL> s/still/stick/
[11:35] <h3xis> Flannel telling someone how to gain root goes against them?
[11:35] <tWs_Mortorojo> 512
[11:35] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, have you ever starting into the OS?
[11:35] <Flannel> h3xis: When it's most likely that theyre just nescient of the fact that ubuntu doesn't use the root account, yes.
[11:35] <Jowen> h3xis, how do I close one? They dont give me the option when I right click on them?
[11:35] <sldkfj> Isn't it actually:    sudo passwd <user>
[11:35] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: sorry man, they are running me out of here. I should be on at home in a little while. Then I will actually be on Ubuntu. lol
[11:36] <Crane_> See you guys an  little bit
[11:36] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, no it hasent ever mad e it to that even if i try to boot off the disk not off my hardrive
[11:36] <h3xis> Flannel what if youre assuming too much?
[11:36] <LjL> h3xis, i don't think he's asked how to gain root - he asked how to recover a lost root password (and one could infer he didn't have one to start with). anyway if someone really want to enable root, you *first* explain them it's not a recommended action, and then you point them to !root.
[11:36] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: haha, no problem I should be on for atleast another hour and a half
[11:36] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, so a live CD will not boot
[11:36] <h3xis> Jowen do killall nm-applet in terminal, and then re-do nm-applet &
[11:36] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: if I don't see you again, thanks for the help
[11:36] <LjL> !find libXm.so.3 | blackbutterfly
[11:36] <neverblue> did you confirm that the CD image is ok?
[11:36] <Flannel> h3xis: If someone came in here and asked you how to chown his whole directory tree, would you tell him right away? or first make sure he actually knows what hes doing?
[11:36] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, a live or from a HDD
[11:36] <linux_stu> h3xis, atheros AR5008
[11:36] <tWs_Mortorojo> live CD*
[11:37] <h3xis> Flannel id tell him right away, and then ask why
[11:37] <ubotu> blackbutterfly: Package/file libxm.so.3 does not exist in feisty
[11:37] <Crane_> swatF1RESTORM: anytime. If you come here you will see me again. LOL
[11:37] <Crane_> Later all
[11:37] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: I'm sure I'll see ya around then :-p
[11:37] <Flannel> h3xis: that's the wrong order.  By the time you've explained (assuming they stick around), half their filesystem is FUBAR.
[11:38] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, did you confirm the CD image was good?
[11:38] <swatF1RESTORM> Crane_: real quick do i need to do a sudo /etc/init.d networking restart for the changes to take effect?
[11:38] <h3xis> Flannel, theyre not going to instantaneously look away from the channel and run the command feverishly
[11:38] <Jowen> h3xis, done. And I brought one of them back with the previous command.
[11:38] <Mickbuntu> its crashing  xchat sorry
[11:38] <Yuno> (ww) fglrx: no matching Dvice section for instance (BusID PCI: 2:0:0) (SAME ERROR BUT PCI: 2:0:1) (EE) No devices detected
[11:38] <LjL> blackbutterfly: regardless of what the bot says, that file is in libmotif3 (there's also a file called the same in j2re1.4)
[11:38] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, yes on both the at CD and regular
[11:38] <h3xis> Jowen good. now click on it and it should show you wireless signals with SSIDs
[11:38] <linux_stu> h3xis, my wireless card is an atheros AR5008
[11:38] <blackbutterfly> Thank you very much, LjL :)
[11:38] <h3xis> linux_stu sorry :p let me look
[11:38] <linux_stu> k
[11:38] <travel> How do I do a ping -a in Linux?
[11:38] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, can you think of any reason why the Live CD would not allow you to boot into the OS?
[11:39] <LjL> travel: by going to a terminal and typing  ping -a <hostname>  ?
[11:39] <swatF1RESTORM> when should you do: *etc/init.d/ networking restart* ?
[11:39] <Flannel> h3xis: yeah, they do.  If I came in and asked "How do I do X" and someone gave me a command, I'm doing it right away.  Anyway, this is getting offtopic.
[11:39] <LordV> Hello, does anyonw know why Ubuntu will not load? It gets to the laoding bar and then nothing happens...
[11:39] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, the only thing i could think of is that I have a ATi Redeon 9200 and I not ATI and Linux dont work well together
[11:39] <Jowen> h3xis, when I click on it I get "Wireless networks", Connect to OTher Wireless Networks", Create New Wireless Network", and manual configuration."
[11:39] <tWs_Mortorojo> i no*
[11:40] <Yuno> h3xis: this is the error i get: (ww) fglrx: no matching Dvice section for instance (BusID PCI: 2:0:0) (SAME ERROR BUT PCI: 2:0:1) (EE) No devices detected
[11:40] <h3xis> Jowen no SSIDs?
[11:40] <orville> I know of doing that
[11:40] <Jowen> I'll check again....
[11:40] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, there should be no reason why a LiveCD would not get you in
[11:40] <LjL> LordV: boot it verbosely, by hitting "e" while in your GRUB menu, then hitting the down arrow to select the kernel line, remove the "quiet splash" part, and hit "b" to boot
[11:40] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, i think its a user error ;)
[11:40] <linxuz3r> how do i install linux kernel headers?
[11:40] <h3xis> Yuno maybe try searching for that error on google? ive never seen it :S
[11:40] <LjL> !boot > LordV    (LordV, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:40] <linxuz3r> !kernel
[11:40] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:40] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, yea thats what i say but it wont let me
[11:40] <LjL> LordV: that way, you'll hopefully be able to see what it's getting stuck on
[11:40] <h3xis> linux_stu still looking :p
[11:40] <Znuff> linxeh, apt-get install linux-headers
[11:41] <Jowen> h3xis, whatever an SSID is, I don't have that option,no.
[11:41] <linux_stu> k h3xis
[11:41] <h3xis> Jowen an SSID is a name of a wireless lan
[11:41] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, well then what am I doing wrong
[11:41] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, wont let you and exactly what the issue is are two differenet things
[11:41] <Yuno> neverblue: have you told him to set up cd-rom as boot in BIOS?
[11:41] <LjL> Znuff, linux-headers-generic. linux-headers doesn't exist in feisty
[11:41] <Jowen> <h3xis, OK.
[11:41] <Znuff> well, I was close :P
[11:41] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, the LiveCD doesnt require you to do an install
[11:41] <neverblue> so maybe your thinking about something else...
[11:41] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, yes I no
[11:41] <Jowen> The light is still on however h3xis.
[11:41] <travel> LjL, it does not do the same thing
[11:42] <LjL> travel: same thing as what?
[11:42] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, without any details from your end, I cannot help you anymore
[11:42] <h3xis> Jowen yeah, so it's detected. um, try that command i told you to kill it and then re-run it only doing sudo nm-applet &
[11:42] <travel> LjL, When you do a ping -a in Windows it comes back with the hostname
[11:42] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, I have tryed to live boot but I just starts to roll numbers with commands next to them for ever and ever never stopping
[11:42] <LordV> Ljl: thanks
[11:42] <neverblue> cause this could be a million different things
[11:42] <Jowen> h3xis, I got to go move the car. Give me 2 min?
[11:42] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, the LiveCD shouldnt do that
[11:42] <LjL> travel: you never said Windows. what do you mean "comes back with the hostname" anyway?
[11:42] <Znuff> travel, no it doesn't
[11:42] <ahmed> guys any windows emulator other than wine ???????????
[11:42] <tWs_Mortorojo> neverblue, well it is
[11:43] <Jowen> thx
[11:43] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, maybe your CD/DVD rom is busted
[11:43] <h3xis> linux_stu ar5008 is not yet supported by madwifi thus it is not supported by feisty yet. you'll have to make do :/
[11:43] <neverblue> buy a new one
[11:43] <h3xis> Jowen okay
[11:43] <Znuff> travel, and linux does that by default
[11:43] <tWs_Mortorojo> ist 2 days old
[11:43] <Yuno>  neverblue: have you told him to set up cd-rom as boot in BIOS?
[11:43] <LjL> ahmed: cedega. or you could use a virtual machine, in certain circumstances. ReactOS is a free Windows clone.
[11:43] <tWs_Mortorojo> its*
[11:43] <LjL> !virtualizers > ahmed    (ahmed, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:43] <Znuff> travel, if the IP has an in-arpa reverse
[11:43] <neverblue> Yuno,  your quite capable of telling him whatever you want
[11:43] <tWs_Mortorojo> Yuno, I have already done that
[11:44] <neverblue> tWs_Mortorojo, doesnt matter that its not working....
[11:44] <neverblue> a new image drive could not work right outta the box
[11:44] <neverblue> like I said, its a million different things, im not going to touch on each thing with you
[11:44] <ahmed> well i dunt want vmware,, it wud be slow runngin anything there
[11:44] <neverblue> thats wasting both our time
[11:44] <travel> Znuff, Well in Windows I can ping -a IP and it will come back with the reverse if I do the same in linux it does not
[11:44] <ahmed> any wine alternate ??
[11:44] <pjman> Hi everyone. Can someone help me figure out why my USB drive works when booted to Feisty LiveCD but not after installing it? I'm getting I/O errors and it automatically unmounts when trying to read from it. I have the /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=449562. Are there any other logs that would be helpful?
[11:44] <frenchy> does anyone have cenon installed?
[11:44] <Znuff> travel, dude, it does
[11:44] <LjL> !es | valentino^o
[11:44] <ubotu> valentino^o: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:45] <LjL> ahmed, i see you completely disregarded my reply, so the next answer is "no".
[11:45] <Jowen> h3xis, back. Thanks for your time BTW.
[11:45] <Znuff> and anyway, just do: dig -x ip to find out the hostname/reverse dns of an ip
[11:45] <h3xis> Jowen ;)
[11:45] <Jowen> What should i do again h3xis?
[11:46] <ahmed> sryy
[11:46] <valentino^o> sorry man it was an /ame message
[11:46] <linux_stu> is there a console based web browser in ubuntu fiesty?
[11:46] <LjL> valentino^o: avoid those please.
[11:46] <ahmed> lJL: i dun wnna install windows ,, cause it will run slow on emulators
[11:46] <h3xis> Jowen in terminal do killall nm-applet and then instead of running it as a normal user, run it using sudo so do sudo nm-applet &
[11:46] <ahmed> i need a wine alternate
[11:46] <Znuff> linux_stu, elinks
[11:46] <swatF1RESTORM> *Question: -->* If I perform "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart would it detect my LAN or wifi first? and if it would detect my wifi first would it automatically connect after the command was done?
[11:46] <neverblue> ahmed, google it
[11:46] <LjL> linux_stu: links, link2, elinks, w3m, lynx
[11:46] <roxlu> Hi everyone!
[11:46] <linux_stu> Znuff, thanks
[11:46] <mr32123_> hey guys
[11:47] <roxlu> does someone knows a good torrent client?
[11:47] <swatF1RESTORM> sup roxlu and mr32123_!
[11:47] <linux_stu> LjL, thanks as well
[11:47] <Znuff> there's an elinks-lite heh
[11:47] <albert> LjL, you mentioned reactos, did you use it?
[11:47] <klock> roxlu: ktorrent
[11:47] <LjL> linux_stu: i think w3m is installed by default. it's good.
[11:47] <PriceChild> roxlu, my favourite is rtorrent
[11:47] <Znuff> roxlu, rTorrent
[11:47] <LjL> albert: tried it very briefly.
[11:47] <PriceChild> roxlu, but that's command line and scary :)
[11:47] <mr32123_> Anyone got time to help me figure out how to get my widescreen to get teh right resolution?
[11:47] <Jowen> h3xis, so I have a blue light on, wireless is enabled, but with "no network connection".
[11:47] <trippen> hello
[11:47] <Moduliz0r> where is the WINE config file stored?
[11:48] <travel> Znuff, 64 bytes from 192.168.0.207: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.393 ms
[11:48] <roxlu> PriceChild: how is the usability?
[11:48] <Yancho> can someone pls walk me into the reconfiguration of xorg pretty please?
[11:48] <travel> There is no name there
[11:48] <trippen> is there someway to get dvi output to work with ubuntu i do not have a vga option
[11:48] <roxlu> (speed, navigation ?)
[11:48] <FutureMarine> I was looking in the forum to make sure my card will work and I am not sure if WG511 v2 will work with ubuntu version 5.04
[11:48] <h3x_> hello.. is there a way to disable the GNOME graphical login? i just want text based
[11:48] <albert> LjL, is it stable enough to handle drivers and games?
[11:48] <KNY> Moduliz0r, check ~/.wine/
[11:48] <PriceChild> roxlu, its cli... if you know the shortcuts its quicker than anything else
[11:48] <Znuff> travel, that's because damn windows uses netbios lookups
[11:48] <Moduliz0r> ok thanks
[11:48] <KNY> how can I invoke the hibernate via SSH?
[11:48] <kbj> Can someone help me, Im encountering very slow netwrok performance..
[11:48] <LjL> albert: i doubt it.
[11:48] <drega> I've got the simplist of simple scripts running as a cron job
[11:48] <h3xis> Jowen right, you ran that command and youre still getting the same thing?
[11:48] <travel> Znuff, Alright well is there anyway to accomplish the same thing from linux?
[11:49] <albert> LjL, k thx, but i'll keep an eye on it ;)
[11:49] <Znuff> travel, yes
[11:49] <Znuff> travel, but it's not easy
[11:49] <drega> and althought I see cron running the script isn't executed
[11:49] <travel> Znuff, What does it require
[11:49] <trippen> HELP! im stuck in a console how can i get gnome to display over a dvi output!
[11:49] <Znuff> drega, how did you add it?
[11:49] <Jowen> Could you refresh what command I was to run? :-)
[11:49] <Znuff> travel, samba and some tweaking
[11:49] <swatF1RESTORM> I need help getting my computer connected to my LAN
[11:49] <pjman> Does anyone have any ideas on my USB hard drive problem? It works fine with the Live CD but not in a base Feisty install.
[11:49] <drega> I've got it set to 10 * * * *      /home/drega/ping_testing.sh
[11:49] <travel> :(
[11:49] <LjL> travel, Znuff: nmblookup (1)        - NetBIOS over TCP/IP client used to lookup NetBIOS names
[11:49] <drega> which should run every 10 minutes ya?
[11:49] <Moduliz0r> how come whenever I create a drive for / (usually E:) after running an app with WINE it is gone?
[11:50] <Znuff> drega, that will run the script every xx:10 hour
[11:50] <Znuff> drega, like, 22:10, 23:10 1:10 so on
[11:50] <Znuff> drega, you probably want to run it every 10 minutes, wich should look like: */10 * * * * /path/to/script
[11:50] <drega> correct every 10 minutes of every hour Znuff
[11:50] <drega> ah ok
[11:50] <trippen> i dont want to have to go back to windows.. is there a way to get a dvi out put to work with gnome
[11:50] <drega> mumble grumble lemmie try that
[11:51] <emun> help, just installed realplayer10 , but when i click on on it in sound and and video , it comes up on desktop but i can not play even an audio cd in my dvdrom
[11:51] <KNY> emun, why do you need RP10?
[11:51] <FutureMarine> I was looking in the forum to make sure my card will work and I am not sure if WG511 v2 will work with ubuntu version 5.04
[11:51] <Znuff> LjL, wich is part of samba :)
[11:51] <travel> LjL, Thanks dude thats perfect
[11:51] <SteveWrightNZ> I changed the soundcard and now no sound - how do I get Ubuntu to automagically reconfigure it ?
[11:51] <nexous> How do I install the pixmap engine and mist engine?
[11:51] <travel> Thats all I needed
[11:51] <LjL> never said the contrary
[11:51] <Jowen>  h3xis, right. I scrolled up and got the command you said. I ran it and I still have "no network connection" on the applet.
[11:51] <kbj> Can someone help me, Im encountering very slow network performance.. both via samba and via ftp
[11:51] <mr32123_> how do i get a widescreen resolution?
[11:51] <KNY> kbj, check your network
[11:52] <h3xis> Jowen sounds like ubuntu has pathetic drivers for your chipset out of the box. i'd recommend installing them yourself as much of a pain that is
[11:52] <kbj> KNY: its not it
[11:52] <drega> Znuff: I suppose the only way of knowing if that works is waiting 11 minutes or so.
[11:52] <h3xis> Jowen, let me look up bcm4318 drivers
[11:52] <deefzi> any idea why my quake3 keeps jamming every 3 seconds for like 0,2s?
[11:52] <emun> KNY, just thought it was good player in windows so decided to try it out in ubuntu
[11:52] <Jowen> h3xis, could you tell me how to go about doing that ?
[11:52] <h3xis> Jowen yeah one sec
[11:52] <Jowen> ok h3xis, thanks
[11:52] <KNY> emun, VLC is the best :)
[11:52] <swatF1RESTORM> how do I determine which MAC address is for my wireless and which is my true ethernet port?
[11:52] <Znuff> drega, it will work ;)
[11:52] <KNY> sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:53] <drega> Znuff: what I believe I'm having an issue with is cron in general .. when running  ps -aux I see /usr/sbin/cron running
[11:53] <KNY> swatF1RESTORM, ifconfig
[11:53] <kbj> KNY: i checked everything, I can even download from the internet twice as fast as I can from my ubuntu box
[11:53] <h3xis> Jowen bcm4318 (your chipset) is included in the newer 2.6 kernels but im not sure if ubuntu uses some package or if it's enabled in the kernel. i'm suspecting the former
[11:53] <drega> but even with my prior settings 10 * * * * it didnt' seem to run
[11:53] <trippen> anyone know how to get dvi support with gnome/xorg ?
[11:53] <kbj> KNY: and its a brand new feisty install
[11:53] <KNY> kbj, ethernet or wireless?
[11:53] <Jowen> h3xis, ok...
[11:53] <emun> KNY IS VLC IN THE SYNAPTIC PACKAGE
[11:53] <Pokit> anyone have a clue why nsplugiinwrapper is telling me "nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for libflashplayer.so" ?
[11:53] <Znuff> drega, cron always runs. it's a daemon
[11:53] <Pokit> i'm trying to install flash player 9
[11:54] <swatF1RESTORM> KNY: eth0 says link encap:Ethernet and so does eth1. those are the only 2 listed in my /etc/iftab
[11:54] <KNY> emun, yes, it's in the repos. sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:54] <Znuff> drega, 10 * * * * means that it will run at xx:10 precisely
[11:54] <neverblue> emun, use the ubuntu guide to install it (google the guide)
[11:54] <kbj> KNY: 1gbit ethernet. I just reformatted the ubuntu box because of some errors before and I was getting 50mb/sec 1 hour ago, now I can only get 1mb/sec
[11:54] <drega> anyway to execute cron jobs manually
[11:54] <Znuff> drega, no, that's the whole point -_-
[11:54] <drega> Znuff: other than using the command
[11:54] <trippen> well since no one can help me with my main problem can someone tell me how to exit BitchX
[11:54] <drega> ok well I'm a twat then
[11:54] <nexous> How do I install the pixmap engine and mist engine?
[11:55] <emun> THANK YOU GUYS
[11:55] <Znuff> or just use a time frame like, */2 * * * *, dreamnid
[11:55] <Znuff> drega I mean
[11:55] <neverblue> trippen, /exit
[11:55] <trippen> thanks you neverblue
[11:55] <KNY> emun, working?
[11:55] <neverblue> emun, why all the caps?
[11:55] <mischko> I heard that work is progressing on ubuntu headless installs.  Anyone know about this?
[11:55] <swatF1RESTORM> KNY: any ideas?
[11:56] <KNY> swatF1RESTORM, no, not really. Sorry
[11:56] <emun> neverblue, sorry my mistake
[11:56] <tri3axe> damn... i have some files in /var/www/ that i cant acces in the ftp client .. i set chmod 644 /var/www/  ..the files that was upploaded was created on another comp with other permissions on them.. how can i take ownership?
[11:56] <neverblue> emun, np
[11:56] <swatF1RESTORM> KNY: thanks :-)
[11:56] <drega> Znuff: I even checked my config using a graphical utility and it confirmed what mine was doing...
[11:56] <Pokit> anyone have a clue why nsplugiinwrapper is telling me "nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for libflashplayer.so" ?  I'm tyring to get flash player 9 to work
[11:56] <KNY> tri3axe, sudo chown <user> <file>
[11:56] <drega> there isn't anything different in ubuntu server is there?
[11:56] <Jowen> h3xis, any thoughts, or is it hopeless for this laptop?
[11:57] <h3xis> Jowen oh it isnt hopeless, i dont think, still looking
[11:57] <emun> KNY, i will try the vlc and get back to you
[11:57] <Znuff> drega, no mate, cron has always been the same
[11:57] <Jowen> ok, h3xis
[11:57] <klock> Jowen, wireless drivers are tough sometimes
[11:57] <neverblue> emun, you might want to read that document I suggested earlier
[11:58] <mischko> The dapper installer doesn't even give me the option to fetch packages from a custom mirror! :(
[11:58] <tri3axe> KNY: could i pick a dir instead of file?
[11:58] <Jowen> klock, I'm pretty easy going. If it means i can get rid of Windows on my travel computer, I'll go the extra mile.
[11:58] <KNY> tri3axe, sudo chmod -R <user> <dir>
[11:58] <michup> hi ive pdf file how can i convert it to base text in ubuntu?
[11:58] <klock> Jowen, I know how you feel. I have had no end of trouble with wireless drivers. feisty broke almost all of mine.
[11:58] <KNY> tri3axe, chown*, sorry
[11:59] <rubydo> Hi, 7.04 is locking up fairly regularly for me - it responds for a second every minute or so - anyone have any ideas what this might be due to?
[11:59] <Pokit> I can't get nspluginwrapper to install flash player 9. it keeps telling me "nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for libflashplayer.so"  any clue how to fix this
[11:59] <cn28h> rubydo, check in top and see if something is using 100% CPU?
[11:59] <Jowen> Klock, I have Ubuntu on my desktop and my son's laptop.
[11:59] <Jowen>  Love it.
[11:59] <Moduliz0r> good
[11:59] <Moduliz0r> its great!
[11:59] <Moduliz0r> Have you tried Ubuntu Studio?
[11:59] <aeiko_> I have a problem with my modem. It detects okay, but when I try to dial out I get the following error: period size 48 is not supported by playback . Any idea how to fix this?
[11:59] <h4wk0> I love it to jowen :)
[12:00] <Znuff> Ewww, ubuntu-studio?
[12:00] <Moduliz0r> Znuff: it's actually really good
[12:00] <Flannel> tri3axe: Usually it's best to play with ftp permissions.  A lot have methods to automatically chown files and stuff.  Or play with groups (add your ftp user to www-data, or whatnot)
[12:00] <Yancho> guys how can i map a windows folder? i have samba installed and i can access it - but need the software to do so
[12:00] <klock> Most people who visit this channel do or on their way to loving it
[12:00] <Znuff> Moduliz0r, it violates every piece of the GPL
[12:00] <nitrocks> i'm using feisty w/ beryl w/ the cube desktops.. i am also using gdesklets for some widgets.. is there anyway that I can have the widgets only show up on one side of the cube?
[12:00] <emun> neverblue , i am reading the document as suggested .
[12:00] <Moduliz0r> Znuff: haha
[12:00] <Moduliz0r> But I like it
[12:00] <roxlu> PriceChild: when I want to set a upload rate of 38 kB/s, what do I need to use as value for "upload_rate"
[12:01] <roxlu> PriceChild: 3800 or something?
[12:01] <h3xis> Jowen in terminal do sudo iwconfig. what is the name of your wireless interface? wlan0? eth1?
[12:01] <rubydo> cn28h: Thanks, I'll use that next time it locks up and see if I can track down the problem!
[12:01] <Owner> hey