[12:30] <maxamillion> crabgrass: probably conky, i think its something to do with the double buffer ... but i could be wrong
[12:40] <crabgrass> maxamillion: yeah... looks like it is conky
[12:40] <crabgrass> maxamillion: i don't know much about conkyrc, and google is no help... is there any way i can have conky draw to it's own transparent window that doesnt (or does, i dont care) show up in the task list?
[12:41] <crabgrass> shit, and i just stopped system monitor.
[12:41] <crabgrass> how do i kill it with terminal?
[12:42] <DRF> ps -A to get the ID then kill <ID num> (may need sudo for the kill)
[12:44] <crabgrass> hmm, didn't work
[12:44] <crabgrass> oh well
[12:45] <crabgrass> fixing conky is the only thing i really care about
[12:54] <maxamillion> crabgrass: http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[01:11] <ThatTallGuy> crimsun: thanks loads for looking at this, but it's 1am here, I've got to get to bed -- if you have any suggestions put them in the pastebin page?  I'll check for them tomorrow.
[01:11] <crimsun> ThatTallGuy: if you don't prepend my nick, I'm likely to miss
[01:12] <ThatTallGuy> uh -- I did
[01:12] <crimsun> I'm in ~90 IRC channels; there's no way to track everyone.
[01:12] <ThatTallGuy> Oh -- you mean the pastbin page?  Sorry...
[01:12] <crimsun> yes.  I'll look now.
[01:13] <maxamillion> crimsun: you really in ~90 irc channels?
[01:13] <crimsun> yes
[01:13] <crimsun> several dozen IRC nets
[01:15] <crimsun> ThatTallGuy: amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute
[01:16] <crabgrass> /leave
[01:16] <maxamillion> crimsun: wow ... what irc client you use?
[01:16] <crimsun> maxamillion: irssi in screen.
[01:16] <maxamillion> crimsun: ah
[01:16] <ThatTallGuy> crimsun: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[01:17] <crimsun> ThatTallGuy: amixer -c0 set 'External Amplifier' mute
[01:17] <ThatTallGuy> Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0
[01:17] <ThatTallGuy>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
[01:17] <ThatTallGuy>   Playback channels: Mono
[01:17] <ThatTallGuy>   Mono: Playback [off] 
[01:17] <crimsun> right.  Now pastebin your /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc*
[01:19] <ThatTallGuy> asound.conf does not exist.  .asoundrc* appended to pastebin.
[01:21] <crimsun> I presume http://pastebin.ca/501273 ?
[01:22] <crimsun> you get a new URL if you update.
[01:22] <ThatTallGuy> Yes that's the one, sorry -- never heard of pastebin before, very useful tool
[01:24] <crimsun> yes, your ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf is invalid.
[01:24] <crimsun> There's no audio device on your system named "Names"
[01:24] <crimsun> 17:56 < ThatTallGuy> First cmd gives     0 [I82801CAICH3   ] : ICH - Intel
  --yeah, that would be invalid all right :)
[01:24] <crimsun> there is one called "I82801CAICH3"
[01:25] <crimsun> I would simply remove ~/.asoundrc*
[01:25] <crimsun> then log out and back in
[01:27] <ThatTallGuy> excellent -- alsamixer now works -- aplay makes sound -- gxine not working yet though, 1 sec
[01:29] <vidd> is there a know fix to the "xfburn dont burn iso's" issue?
[01:31] <ThatTallGuy> crimsun -- you're my new best friend :)  xmms works, don't know why gxine doesn't but don't care much.  Many thanks.
[01:31] <crimsun> np.
[01:31] <vidd> ThatTallGuy, what ya trying to do with gxine?
[01:31] <ThatTallGuy> Play an mp3
[01:32] <vidd> did you install libxine-extracodecs?
[01:33] <ThatTallGuy> gxine was not the app of choice, just what was installed with xubuntu.  No, is mp3 not supported by default?
[01:33] <vidd> no...mp3 is a proprietary codec
[01:34] <vidd> just like dvd playback is
[01:34] <ThatTallGuy> gxine going strong -- thanks.  Looking for the lightest-weight apps possible since machine is small and busily torrenting.
[01:35] <vidd> you want to play dvd's?
[01:36] <ThatTallGuy> No -- machine doesn't even have a cd player without the docking station, which I don't have on it normally.  It's a file server, a torrent server, a minimalist webserver, and a jukebox, that's all.
[01:36] <vidd> ....he said "all"....
[01:37] <bhagman88> hello
[01:37] <ThatTallGuy> Well... you'll stress that even more when I tell you that it's got 1.2+ TB of files to serve :)
[01:37] <vidd> thats about 3x more then whatthgis machine is
[01:38] <ThatTallGuy> External drive tower over USB.  http://www.addonics.com
[01:38] <vidd> this is a chatter, browser, email client
[01:38] <vidd> oh....on dvd player
[01:39] <ThatTallGuy> This machine serves the movies to my main laptop over wifi.
[01:39] <vidd> =] 
[01:40] <ThatTallGuy> Anyway -- thanks a bunch, crimsun, appreciate the help.  Night all...
[01:40] <vidd> maxamillion, whats up with the lappy?
[01:43] <maxamillion> vidd: well i need something with newer packages than in debian to get optimal battery life, i want something more stable than ubuntu, and i want to try using a different distro for daily functions ... freebsd failed, archlinux failed, gentoo is in the process of failing .... think i might try vector linux next and use xfce instead of kde
[01:45] <maxamillion> negative
[01:45] <maxamillion> it would be Xebian if anything ;)
[01:50] <vidd_laptop> so is Xebian just a WORKING title...or is it to be a full scale launch? lol
[01:52] <vidd_laptop> maxamillion, can you name your recommendations for an HTML WYSIWYG app?
[01:53] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: WYSIWYG?
[01:53] <maxamillion> actually i gotta run ... bbl
[02:08] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: annnnd i'm home
[02:08] <vidd_laptop> wb
[02:08] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: thankies, so what were you talking about?
[02:08] <vidd_laptop> to answer your question....
[02:09] <vidd_laptop> WYSIWYG is What You See Is What You Get
[02:09] <vidd_laptop> we were talking HTML apps
[02:11] <maxamillion> i probably have in passing
[02:12] <greg> Hi folks. I was wondering what I can do to help with gutsy. Do they have their own IRC channel?
[02:12] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: uhmmm... so you basically just want something simple?
[02:12] <maxamillion> greg: you should join the -dev mailing lists
[02:12] <maxamillion> greg: check the link on the website
[02:12] <vidd_laptop> maxamillion, yeah...nothing flashy
[02:13] <greg> check which link on which website? I get dev-announce and really don't know what I'm looking at.
[02:13] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: dillo
[02:14] <maxamillion> greg: http://www.xubuntu.org/devel <--- mailing list link on the right
[02:15] <vidd_laptop> maxamillion, we love ya for it!
[02:16] <greg> great, thanks for the link.
[02:16] <maxamillion> greg: np
[02:17] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: aww thanks ... but nobody every uses it :/
[02:17] <vidd_laptop> that is SO not true.....
[02:17] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: i would bug radomir about the new theme more if i thought anyone actually referenced the site ...
[02:17] <vidd_laptop> i go there at least twice an install
[02:18] <maxamillion> :)
[02:18] <maxamillion> well that makes me feel a little better
[02:18] <maxamillion> jeebus gentoo is unique
[02:18] <maxamillion> sorry ... side note
[02:18] <vidd_laptop> maxamillion, there is a theme change on the web site....
[02:19] <vidd_laptop> =\
[02:20] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: no, there isn't ... there is one being written at the moment
[02:20] <vidd_laptop> ah...
[02:20] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: it will look exactly like ubuntu.com accept with a xubuntu twist
[02:21] <vidd_laptop> there used to be a forum's page...what ever happened to it?
[02:21] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: wait, what?
[02:22] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: we lose our place on ubuntuforums.org?
[02:22] <vidd_laptop> there used to be a forum on the xubuntu page...not kidnapped and controlled by ubuntuforums
[02:24] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: no, there is one on xubuntu.info ... different site
[02:24] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: appears their site went down too ....
[02:26] <vidd_laptop> everything on ubuntuforums is ....well...ubuntu
[02:26] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: no, there is a little place for us
[02:27] <maxamillion> hmmm... well we used to, but they called it "xfce"
[02:28] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: looks like it just got thrown away with the addition of "Desktop Environments" section
[02:28] <vidd_laptop> there is no "distro-specific section"
[02:29] <maxamillion> nope
[02:29] <maxamillion> zero xubuntu love
[02:33] <vidd_laptop> they have thier own wiki....
[02:33] <Gerro> I don't think my fan is working in my laptop, help! i don't want it to overheat
[02:34] <vidd_laptop> yhey have thier own forums
[02:34] <vidd_laptop> no-one loves xubuntu...they wont even shipit to ya
[02:35] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: i will bring it up as an option to add a xubuntu specific forums module to our drupal setup on the site
[02:35] <Gerro> xubuntu is awesome
[02:35] <maxamillion> Gerro: uhmm, fan should be controled by acpi i would imagine
[02:35] <vidd_laptop> Gerro, we get no conical-love
[02:36] <maxamillion> canonical*
[02:36] <vidd_laptop> xubuntu gets treated like a second class citizen
[02:36] <maxamillion> we get minimal canonical love
[02:37] <vidd_laptop> ya...i think they love to ignore us
[02:37] <vidd_laptop> =\
[02:37] <maxamillion> its really a matter of user base, i think once we get as many users as kubuntu then canonical will start shipping xubuntu cds and maybe even start paying jani
[02:37] <vidd_laptop> it dont matter that we have the BEST tech help on the Net
[02:38] <vidd_laptop> which reminds me....
[02:38] <vidd_laptop> are they EVER going to ship a fully functional cd burner with xubuntu?????
[02:39] <maxamillion> yeah we do ... if i had a dollar for evertime i had someone say "wow, i should have come here first instead of trying around #ubuntu for the past X amount of time"
[02:39] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: well if graveman were officially supported by ubuntu, yes .... otherwise, no
[02:39] <vidd_laptop> xfburn dont burn iso's...just makes frisbee's
[02:39] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: the problem is getting a lightweight burner to be officially supported in main
[02:40] <vidd_laptop> why not get the one we have to WORK?
[02:40] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: i dunno
[02:40] <vidd_laptop> anyone know WHY it makes frisbee's and not iso's?
[02:41] <vidd_laptop> is there a hack around it?
[02:41] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: i actually have started using the command line for burning ... it just ends up being easier no more "omg, what button do i push?" or "where was that one feature i needed?" ... its just "man cdrecord" to refresh the memory and go on with life
[02:41] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: no clue
[02:44] <vidd_laptop> what is the CLI for burning an iso into a bootable disk?
[02:49] <vidd_laptop> looks like xfce gave up on xfburn in sept 2005!
[02:49] <atarinox> does anybody know the xorg entry to get my third mouse button to work as a double click?
[02:51] <maxamillion> atarinox: not off the top of my head, no
[02:52] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: yeah, don't doubt it
[02:52] <j1tters> hey. got a small prob. hopefully one of you have seen this before.
[02:52] <j1tters> fresh install of fiesty.  everything works great but.
[02:52] <j1tters> process whiptail is just sitting there taking up almost 100% of processor usage. any ideas?
[02:53] <maxamillion> oohhhhh
[02:54] <j1tters> hm. yeh me neither.
[02:54] <maxamillion> j1tters: its for displaying dialog boxes, just do a "killall whiptail" in the terminal and make sure to save session for future logins when you log out and you shouldn't have any problems after that .... not sure what auto started it, but i know its not supposed to
[02:54] <j1tters> just so you know. only thing weird is im running dual monitors with twinview. but that shouldnt have anything to do with it should it?
[02:55] <j1tters> oh thats so much better. !  thanks a ton maxamillion.  system is much snappier now.
[03:06] <maxamillion> j1tters: yeah, shouldn't matter ... i run dual monitors at work
[03:06] <maxamillion> j1tters: anytime :)
[03:07] <j1tters> well thanks much.
[03:07] <keb> are there any caveats or tips about compiling a custom kernel for xubuntu?
[03:07] <j1mc> hi maxamillion
[03:08] <j1mc> keb: any special reason you want to compile a customer kernel?
[03:08] <keb> i hear it will make my system run faster and leaner
[03:09] <j1tters> fiesty made dual moniter sooo much simpler. (well with an nvidia card that is)
[03:10] <j1mc> keb...  there are ways to do that w/o compiling a customer kernel.  or at least there are things that you can do that can speed up your system before considering the custome kernel option.
[03:10] <keb> ok, where can i read up on them
[03:10] <j1tters> like what jlmc?
[03:10] <j1mc> heh.  oh, i actually need to find the tips for you?  :)
[03:11] <keb> well i've already removed all the daemons i don't think are needed
[03:11] <keb> and uninstalled lots of packages
[03:11] <peepsalot> my xfce4-menu-plugin is taking up 235MB, does that sound right?
[03:11] <j1tters> heh no.
[03:12] <peepsalot> didn't think so :(
[03:12] <j1tters> no peeps that no was for jlmc not you
[03:12] <j1mc> keb: that sounds like a good approach.
[03:13] <keb> j1mc : ok what sorts of things would be next?
[03:13] <j1mc> removing the unused daemons will help quite a bit.
[03:14] <peepsalot> is there an xfce equivalent to gnome system monitor?
[03:14] <keb> peepsalot : i had that happen after i changed some menu items, but it went away next time i restarted X
[03:14] <j1mc> keb: not sure.  sorry.  i think if you google for "recompile kernel and performance" you can find some tips.
[03:14] <keb> thanks
[03:15] <j1mc> be careful, though.  i'd always keep a copy of the stock kernel available for boot.
[03:16] <keb> yeah, i have a 386 and 686 kernel of latest and previous versions in grub
[03:17] <j1mc> any special reason you want the extra fast performance?  do you have a really slow machine?
[03:18] <keb> it isnt really slow, i just find somethings sluggish , e.g. switching windows
[03:18] <bordy240> Anyone here on a Thinkpad 600 by any chance?
[03:19] <j1tters> anyone running beryl?
[03:19] <keb> not running beryl anymore
[03:20] <j1mc> i used to run beryl, too
[03:20] <keb> i didnt find any functional advantages to beryl
[03:20] <j1tters> ahh. thats what i was wondering.
[03:20] <maxamillion> i ran beryl, got annoyed ... made me less productive
[03:21] <keb> the instant window thumbnail view might have been handy sometimes
[03:21] <odat> help
[03:21] <odat> lost the entire desktop after restart and it keeps freezing
[03:22] <pirate-king> hello
[03:23] <odat> lost the entire desktop after restart and it keeps freezing
[03:26] <odat> lost the entire desktop after restart and it keeps freezing
[03:26] <pirate-king> Im running xubuntu got 2 drives in th pc how do access the other drive
[03:27] <vidd_laptop> pirate-king, what is on the other drive?
[03:28] <pirate-king> nothing
[03:28] <pirate-king> want it for hard drive space
[03:28] <bordy240> nobody happens to be using a thinkpad 600?
[03:28] <pirate-king> one is ice where the files for the pc are
[03:29] <pirate-king> one is ide where the files for the pc are
[03:29] <bordy240> or happen to know where I can find a suitable xorg.conf file for my thinkpad so it stops flickering on me?
[03:29] <j1mc> bordy240: when does it flicker?
[03:29] <bordy240> anytime x is running
[03:29] <bordy240> and I am crap with xorg files
[03:30] <vidd_laptop> pirate-king, was the drive there when you installed? or is it newly added?
[03:30] <odat> lost the entire desktop after restart and it keeps freezing
[03:30] <vidd_laptop> pirate-king, try this: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch27_:_Expanding_Disk_Capacity
[03:30] <pirate-king> was ther
[03:31] <pirate-king> ok
[03:31] <pirate-king> was  there when installed
[03:32] <j1mc> bordy240: it doesn't flicker when x isn't running?
[03:32] <bordy240> well, not in console mode no
[03:33] <bordy240> for example, I can run puppy linux from the CD like intended, and it wont flicker for some reason... but if I run it installed, it does. very strange.
[03:33] <j1mc> hm.  weird.  can you put your xorg.conf file up in pastebin?  (see the topic of the channel for info on pastebin)
[03:33] <bordy240> yeah doing now
[03:34] <j1mc> thanks.
[03:35] <bordy240> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21919/
[03:36] <odat> how do i remove an entire directory from the command line
[03:36] <keb> odat: rm -rf directoryname
[03:36] <j1mc> odat: very carefully :)
[03:37] <j1mc> bordy240: can you also do the same after entering "lspci" and "lsmod" into the command line?
[03:37] <maxamillion> odat: use that command as though it were a gun, be very sure you want to pull the trigger
[03:37] <j1mc> odat: keb is right, though...  that's the command.
[03:38] <j1mc> odat: if you don't wnat to "force" it, you can just do "rm -r name_of_directory"
[03:38] <j1tters> ok this is probably simple. how do i get all 4 buttons of my usb 4 button mouse working?
[03:39] <bordy240> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21920/
[03:39] <maxamillion> jeebus i hate waiting for kernels to compile ....
[03:40] <bordy240> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21921/
[03:40] <bordy240> lspci is first, then lsmod
[03:40] <j1mc> bordy240: thanks... give me a bit of time to look at them.
[03:42] <keb> hmm libpci2 is listed in sympatic as obsolete but lots of packages depend on it (e.g. gdm, hal, ivman, gnome-mount, thunar, xfce4-session)
[03:42] <keb> *synaptic
[03:42] <BFTD> how do I force eject a drive?
[03:42] <BFTD> I'm installing a game via wine
[03:43] <keb> BFTD : eject /dev/hdc
[03:43] <keb> sudo ...
[03:44] <maxamillion> BFTD: the drive might be busy, you might have to kill the process holding onto the drive
[03:44] <BFTD> maxamillion but I don't, then I'd have to kill the installation
[03:44] <BFTD> I just need to switch disk's
[03:44] <maxamillion> BFTD: i could be wrong though ... the command keb gave you should work, if not then try unmounting it first
[03:45] <maxamillion> BFTD: ahhh ok
[03:45] <j1mc> bordy240: try setting the default color depth to 16
[03:45] <keb> yeah it wont eject or unmount if root (wine) has got ahold of it
[03:45] <j1mc> to do that, first, backup your xorg.conf file
[03:45] <j1mc> do you know where that is located?
[03:45] <bordy240> yep
[03:47] <maxamillion> wait ... no way ...
[03:47] <maxamillion> this might be the fastest kernel compilation i have ever seen
[03:47] <odat> lost the entire desktop after restart and it keeps freezing
[03:47] <maxamillion> jeebus ... that was FAST
[03:47] <maxamillion> 5 minutes
[03:47] <j1mc> what are you doing, maxamillion ?
[03:48] <maxamillion> j1mc: installing gentoo on my laptop
[03:48] <bordy240> j1mc: OMG! That was sdamn easy... how the HELL! lol.
[03:48] <maxamillion> !language | bordy240
[03:48] <ubotu> bordy240: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:48] <bordy240> apologize, maxamillion... so excited!
[03:48] <j1mc> bordy240: did it work?  changing the default dept?
[03:49] <maxamillion> bordy240: no worries, just some people are easily offended and we attempt to appeal to everyone :)
[03:49] <bordy240> maxamillion: oh no, I understand. I am running into moderation issues w/i my loco right now... gotta keep everyone at peace
[03:49] <bordy240> j1mc yes it did! such a simple fix too...
[03:49] <j1mc> bordy240: it sounds like X works now.  was it because you changed the default depth?
[03:50] <j1mc> oh, cool.
[03:50] <odat> lost the entire desktop after restart and it keeps freezing
[03:50] <bordy240> j1mc: right now i am running vectorlinux (keep trying new distros hoping one would work)... but if I were to go back to xubuntu, would this xorg.conf file work there too?
[03:50] <j1mc> a friend on a thinkpad t20 had an xserver issue, and after researching it, that helped, so...
[03:50] <bordy240> that did it... looks beautiful now, clean, the text isnt choppy and there is no flicker
[03:51] <j1mc> bordy240: not sure.  you would use the neomagic driver, though, and the default depth would be set to 16.
[04:01] <odat> how do i remove a with purge
[04:01] <odat> in the command line
[04:02] <bordy240> just a lil off-topic, but it must be done: zomg heroes.
[04:10] <peepsalot> bordy240, did you ever know that you're my hero?
[04:10] <keb> pls do not break into song ;)
[04:11] <bordy240> +1
[04:12] <peepsalot> just sayin
[04:12] <peepsalot> you're the wind beneath my wings
[04:12] <keb> :x
[04:13] <peepsalot> don't worry, i'm done :D
[04:14] <keb> odat: did you run a memtest recently?  your system could be freezing due to bad ram
[04:16] <peepsalot> how can i restart my panel?
[04:17] <keb>  /usr/bin/xfce4-panel
[04:17] <keb> might have to kill the old one first ;)
[04:20] <peepsalot> hmm, so i killed the xfce menu a few minutes ago.  obviously, it disappears from the panel.  i thought that restarting the panel would bring it back though.
[04:20] <keb> the menu is a separate process from the panel
[04:21] <peepsalot> yeah, i figured the panel automatically loaded it though, like a child process or something
[04:21] <peepsalot> sooo, do you know how i might get my menu back?
[04:23] <keb> does the menu work with right-click on your desktop?
[04:24] <peepsalot> yeah
[04:24] <keb> ok then you just need to add an applet to the panel
[04:24] <keb> right click on panel, add item
[04:24] <keb> and xfce menu should be in the list of possible items to add
[04:49] <maxamillion> heh... nothing like getting banned from #gentoo
[05:13] <HellTrade> can i encrypt the partition?
[05:15] <peepsalot> what partition
[05:15] <HellTrade> the one where the system is on
[05:15] <HellTrade> and the swap
[05:16] <HellTrade> on thep c is also crappy windows
[05:16] <HellTrade> I need it for some software
[05:16] <HellTrade> I am brand new
[05:16] <HellTrade> just installed I am so happy beside some problems
[05:16] <HellTrade> that anny me
[05:16] <HellTrade> already did sudo
[05:16] <HellTrade> and some stuff
[05:16] <HellTrade> ;-)
[05:17] <peepsalot> http://polishlinux.org/howtos/encrypted-home-partition-in-linux/
[05:17] <HellTrade> thanks can I also resize - I rad the windows one could vanish
[05:18] <HellTrade> read I meant
[05:18] <peepsalot> you can try, might wanna backup before though
[05:18] <peepsalot> google GParted LiveCD
[05:18] <HellTrade> oh no
[05:18] <HellTrade> I would go mad only to istall all that crap
[05:18] <HellTrade> I am just making another hd free
[05:18] <HellTrade> can i install then also software on the other hd?
[05:19] <peepsalot> i have no idea what you are talking about
[05:19] <HellTrade> I think I found one more site because of the stupid graphics driver problem
[05:19] <HellTrade> I mean
[05:19] <HellTrade> some programms on harddisk that is with ubuntu and win
[05:19] <HellTrade> and now with another hd
[05:19] <HellTrade> also there programms or lets the system install you software (programs on the partition where it is itself (kernel)
[05:21] <GTroy_> can I endorse 2.6.21?
[05:21] <GTroy_> good stuff
[05:22] <GTroy_> once I changed to 2.6.21 I haven't had any swap usage at all
[05:25] <peepsalot> lol encrypting swap, i just re-read that.  probably better to just disable swap entirely
[05:26] <peepsalot> GTroy_, does 2.6.21 have that revolutionary new scheduler i read about not too long ago?
[05:26] <GTroy_> yah
[05:27] <peepsalot> neato
[05:27] <GTroy_> peepsalot, it's cool
[05:27] <peepsalot> you know what it's called, can't remember
[05:27] <peepsalot> the scheduler algorithm
[05:28] <GTroy_> timing ticks
[05:28] <GTroy_> something like that
[05:28] <GTroy_> too
[05:29] <peepsalot> found it, completely fair scheduler http://kerneltrap.org/node/8059
[05:50] <peepsalot> so it looks like F11 is a shortcut to go to fullscreen, can I override this shortcut?
[06:16] <pirate-king> i installed xmms how do I get it to play mp3's
[06:18] <Catoptromancy> you have codecs?
[06:18] <pirate-king> nope
[06:20] <Catoptromancy> Well im on wrong OS, or else I would have list heh
[06:20] <Catoptromancy> sudo aptitude install "find some codecs"
[06:20] <Catoptromancy> ok....
[08:57] <aboyousif> good morning
[09:02] <maxamillion> yes, it is turning out to be so
[09:02] <maxamillion> :)
[09:34] <albertmk> I am having problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21945/
[09:35] <Merchelo> does the file exist?
[09:36] <Merchelo> /build/buildd/gdal-1.3.2/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libgdal1.3.2.so
[09:36] <albertmk> let me see
[09:36] <albertmk> the folder buildd doesnt even exist
[09:37] <maxamillion> Merchelo: yeah, that is completely non-supported software ... you might want to get in contact with the project's support team, i honestly wouldn't even know where to begin to try to help you with that
[09:38] <albertmk> ?
[09:39] <Merchelo> yeah, I was just thinking the same from the build error :/
[09:40] <Merchelo> albertmk: probably best to get in touch with the people at openmodeller
[09:40] <albertmk> but I am part of openmodeller..
[09:41] <albertmk> I ll have to talk with the developer
[12:32] <XMR2F77> hi, where do i find the packages for xubuntu in the internet
[12:33] <XMR2F77> like pool
[12:34] <XMR2F77> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[12:36] <Myrtti> they're there
[12:36] <XMR2F77> i found m, used #debian-bots to find
[12:37] <XMR2F77> whats the default office ( like openoffice ) writer in xubuntu
[12:38] <Myrtti> abiword
[12:39] <XMR2F77> nice, thanx mate
[12:39] <Myrtti> sure ;-)
[12:40] <sander> hello xubuntu peepz !  first time i'm here,  discovering xubuntu,  and uhm..  i'm not an linux user so need some help sometimes,  but its great how it works on an old laptop!
[12:40] <Myrtti> XMR2F77: wrong sex though :-)
[12:40] <XMR2F77> ? :) doesnt matter
[12:41] <XMR2F77> to me
[12:42] <XMR2F77> like now <sander> ?
[12:43] <sander> google and ubuntu forum helps me a lot...
[12:44] <XMR2F77> #ubuntu-bots and #debian-bots help me alot too
[12:45] <sander> hmm ty,  adding this chans..
[12:45] <XMR2F77> np
[03:18] <cliebow_> using wireshark what should the print command be besides lpr?
[03:19] <Riot777> anyone know something about that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2699735 I got the same problem :P
[05:27] <montag_> hi, i've installed compiz on xubuntu  feisty fawn, but now my font size go crazy, some fonts big, some fonts small....how set global font size ?
[06:10] <bordy240> hey folks... anyone know how to get my xircom realport pcmcia card working in xubuntu?
[06:11] <TheSheep> !pcmcia | bordy240
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <TheSheep> :/
[06:11] <TheSheep> bordy240: search on forums.ubuntu.com
[06:46] <bordy240> evidently I have to edit my grub to add "pnpbios=off acpi=off" but I have no idea how to do that, or to save it afterwards. lol
[06:46] <TheSheep> bordy240: press 'esc' when booting, then press 'e'
[06:47] <TheSheep> bordy240: once the system is up, you just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:48] <bordy240> I do that after I press e?
[06:48] <bordy240> or once I am actually into the system
[06:48] <peepsalot> how can i auto arrange icons on the desktop, it's driving me nuts, i can't find anything
[06:54] <peepsalot> anyone aroud?
[06:54] <peepsalot> around
[06:56] <grazie> peepsalot: dunno...but as desktop icons were only recently added by the xfce team due to popular demand it's probably not supported
[06:57] <grazie> bordy240: as TheSheep says, to do it as boot hit 'esc' and then hit 'e'
[06:58] <peepsalot> hmm, i wonder if a script could be written to arrange icons.  does anyone know where the icon placement data might be stored?
[06:58] <grazie> bordy240: to make the change permanent edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:59] <grazie> at boot* ^^
[07:02] <grazie> TheSheep: you know an irc channel were i can get a little broadband support? My isp has been useless, but I'm making some progress.
[07:05] <bordy240> grazie: at boot, when I hit esc and then hit e, what do I do there?
[07:07] <abd> I'm playing mpeg on gxine properly , when I installed mplayer I get error to intialize video :O .. so anyone help me to play  .avi videos ?????
[07:07] <grazie> bordy240: add the paramaters you mentioned to the right line in the boot file
[07:07] <TheSheep> abd: you need to select proper -vo opetion first
[07:07] <bordy240> grazie: I see root, kernel, initrd, quiet, savedefault
[07:09] <grazie> bordy240: on the kernel line...but if TheSheep says you need ^^ you need that too :)
[07:10] <abd> mplayer can play .avi
[07:10] <abd> ?
[07:10] <hyper_ch> hiho
[07:10] <bordy240> this is scary!
[07:11] <grazie> bordy240: will your computer boot without adding those paramaters?
[07:11] <bordy240> yes it will. I am trying to get my xircom card to be recognized.
[07:12] <grazie> bordy240: best boot and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:12] <bordy240> instad of doing it before booting?
[07:13] <grazie> bordy240: yeah
[07:13] <bordy240> Antyhing special I need to do aside from just adding the line somewhere?
[07:13] <hyper_ch> anyone knows how I can convert a OOo writer doc into a pdf... but not a pdf that still contains the text but one that has been converted into "images (pictures)"?
[07:14] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: why?
[07:14] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: because I don't want to have it auto-indexed
[07:15] <grazie> bordy240: you add those parameters to the line starting kernel (if there's more than 1, then to every kernel line tHat needs it)
[07:16] <bordy240> youch.
[07:16] <bordy240> I am so happy I finally got xubuntu working right.... 3 weeks of distro swapping, all because of th esame issues... and all I had to do was change depth from 24 to 16. lol
[07:17] <hyper_ch> bordy240: why do you need to change the color depth?
[07:18] <grazie> bordy240: you'll need to reboot of course once edited. Play with the 'esc' option another time maybe
[07:18] <bordy240> hyper_ch: no idea... before I did it all the text was choppy and the screen had a wicked (but mild) flicker.
[07:18] <bordy240> now its perfect.
[07:19] <bordy240> grazie: do I add it just like pnpbios=off acpi=off ?
[07:20] <grazie> bordy240: if you been told the following will fix your problem then add "pnpbios=off acpi=off" to the line(s) starting with "kernel"
[07:21] <bordy240> sweet. sorry for all the questions.
[07:21] <grazie> bordy240: without the quotes :)
[07:27] <SerCanii> hi, my xubuntu desktop manager crashes and restart when I try to open terminal application :( how can I fix
[07:28] <abd> TheSheep: I re-installed mplayer plz be patient & help me ....
[07:30] <MrC_> hi
[07:31] <MrC_> does anyone knows how to change the theme in xubuntu?
[07:31] <TheSheep> abd: try 'mplayer -vo help'
[07:31] <TheSheep> MrC_: settings->user interface settings
[07:32] <MrC_> ok
[07:32] <bordy240> TheSheep and Grazie: That didn't work after I rebooted... don't I need to update grub or something to that effect?
[07:33] <TheSheep> no
[07:33] <MrC_> i can't find it
[07:34] <MrC_> sorry i've found it
[07:38] <SerCanii> does anybody know how to fix it?
[07:40] <grazie> SerCanii: have you tried opening a virtual console?
[07:41] <SerCanii> no, how can I open wirtual desktop, I only write my comands via pressin f2+alt and type the command in run dialog box
[07:43] <SerCanii> how can I open-run virtual console?
[07:43] <grazie> alt+ctrl+f1
[07:44] <SerCanii> thnxs
[07:44] <grazie> use alt+ctrl+f7 to return to desktop
[07:46] <MrC_> how do i install theme on xubuntu?i have a long time ago,but now i don't remember
[07:46] <SerCanii> I'll try it, i need a console to connect internet... Im using wifi :(      Thanks again.. and last info is usefull 4 me
[07:51] <MrC_> anyone there?
[07:56] <grazie> MrC_: Download the theme and unpack to ~/.themes (for your use only) or to the system theme folder for everyone to use
[07:57] <grazie> /usr/share/themes (is the system theme folder)
[07:58] <MrC_> grazie amico
[07:58] <grazie> no problemo
[08:17] <peepsalot> aha! ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0.rc
[08:18] <peepsalot> now all i gotta do is write a program to arrange the data in that file
[08:26] <MrC_> I am trying to install some themes on Xubuntu,but when i try to extract the files it says:"You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/usr/share/themes"
[08:26] <MrC_> how do i install it then?
[08:44] <TheSheep> MrC_: extract them in your home dircetory and copy over as root
[08:45] <MrC_> i have tried that
[08:45] <MrC_> but it won't go
[08:46] <TheSheep> MrC_: open a terminal and type 'gksu Thunar'
[08:46] <MrC_> ok
[08:47] <jeriko> anyone know if xubuntu can be booted off usb via qemu from within window?
[08:47] <jeriko> windows*
[08:47] <TheSheep> jeriko: why not
[08:48] <jeriko> know of howto doc?
[08:48] <TheSheep> !install | jeriko
[08:48] <ubotu> jeriko: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[08:51] <jeriko> looks like this is all for booting via usb device
[08:55] <TheSheep> jeriko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[08:55] <jeriko> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/03/09/use-qemu-to-boot-linux-from-windows/
[08:56] <jeriko> that last link you posted has no reference to qemu virtual boot
[08:56] <TheSheep> jeriko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QemuEmulator
[08:57] <TheSheep> jeriko: virtual usb orreal usb -- they are all the same *inside*
[08:57] <TheSheep> jeriko: but you don't want to boot from usb
[08:58] <jeriko> oh cool
[08:58] <jeriko> reading now thx
[09:02] <c00hjn> !record
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <c00hjn> does anyone know a program I can use to record sound with the mic?
[09:05] <Maybelline> c00hjn: audacity
[09:06] <c00hjn> Maybelline, thanks!
[09:06] <Maybelline> c00hjn: no problem.  It's ugly, but it works pretty well.
[09:06] <tors> :)
[09:18] <Korijn> Hello
[09:18] <tors> Hi Korijn
[09:18] <Korijn> I have a simple question about ndiswrapper
[09:19] <Korijn> I downloaded the package from their site (ndiswrapper-1.44.tar.gz) and tried to install it following the instructions in the INSTALL file
[09:19] <Korijn> And it gives me a whole bunch of errors :o
[09:19] <Korijn> I'm using the latest version of xubuntu!
[09:19] <Korijn> Anyone willing to help me out?
[09:20] <TheSheep> Korijn: I think there is ndiswrapper in the ubuntu repositories
[09:20] <TheSheep> Korijn: already compiled and installed, you only have to install the package
[09:20] <Korijn> Yes, I've read about that
[09:20] <TheSheep> !info ndiswrapper
[09:20] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:20] <TheSheep> hmm...
[09:20] <Korijn> I put the xubuntu cd in the drive and tried to find the package using the search thing
[09:21] <Korijn> searching for 'ndis'
[09:21] <Korijn> the package is called ndiswrapper-utils, isn't it?
[09:21] <Korijn> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[09:21] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-utils does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:21] <Korijn> oh.
[09:21] <TheSheep> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all
[09:21] <TheSheep> weird
[09:21] <TheSheep> must be broken
[09:22] <TheSheep> the !info thing, I mean
[09:22] <TheSheep> because the package is there
[09:22] <Seveas> !find ndiswrapper
[09:22] <ubotu> Found: linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server-bigiron, ndiswrapper-common (and 3 others)
[09:22] <Seveas> !find ndiswrapper-utils
[09:22] <ubotu> Found: ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[09:22] <Seveas> there you go :)
[09:22] <Korijn> Alright...
[09:22] <Korijn> I recently switched to xubuntu... I just install it like I would on ubuntu?
[09:23] <TheSheep> Korijn: yes
[09:23] <Korijn> Ok
[09:23] <Korijn> Thanks a lot everyone
[09:23] <TheSheep> Korijn: here is the exact package http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[09:23] <Korijn> I'll give it a shot. If it doesn't work then I'll check back. :P
[09:23] <Korijn> It's on the xubuntu cd isn't it?
[09:24] <Korijn> nvm, brb!
[09:26] <Tigr> hello! I'm trying to install Xubuntu 6.06.1 on one of my computers. I get to the install screen and try to install it but it gets stuck at 100% when loading Linux Kernel. Anyone knows why?
[09:27] <TheSheep> Tigr: it tries to connect to the network and download the latest version of the kernel
[09:27] <Tigr> hmm
[09:27] <TheSheep> Tigr: downloading can take some time
[09:27] <Tigr> so I have to be connected to a network? :)
[09:28] <TheSheep> Tigr: no, then you get the kernel supplied on the cd
[09:29] <Tigr> hmm
[09:29] <Tigr> how do I install without the Loading Linux Kernel thing then?
[09:29] <TheSheep> Tigr: I think it tries to download the newst kernel if you configure the network in the instalator
[09:29] <TheSheep> Tigr: but I'm not sure
[09:35] <Tigr> hmm
[09:35] <Tigr> just trying Start or install Xubuntu
[09:46] <bordy240> TheSheep: somehow got my interwebs working.
[10:14] <Korijn> :(
[10:14] <Korijn> I don't get it.
[10:15] <Korijn> I tried installing the ndiswrapper package from the xubuntu disc using Synaptic
[10:15] <Korijn> And Add/Remove...
[10:16] <Korijn> But it just doesn't find the package :o
[10:16] <Korijn> What am I doing wrong?
[10:16] <Korijn> I tried sudo apt-get as well
[10:20] <somerville32> Is the disk a live cd?
[11:09] <kalikiana> Every time I watch a video, mplayer says "gnome_screensaver_control". I found some reports of this problem on the web, but nobody appears to have fixed it.
[11:09] <kalikiana> Does anyone know what to do?
[11:09] <maxamillion> kalikiana: no clue :(
[11:09] <maxamillion> kalikiana: how's the web browser coming along?
[11:10] <kalikiana> maxamillion, It's going good. The biggest problem is still webkit's incompleteness. :/
[11:18] <maxamillion> kalikiana: yeah .... i would imagine that to put a damper on things
[11:23] <Tigr> Anyone knows whats the problem is when Xubuntu-installation is stuck at 100% on Loading Linux Kernel?
[11:24] <somerville32> Tigr: Were you here earlier?
[11:24] <Tigr> ye
[11:24] <Tigr> still here :)
[11:24] <Tigr> still stuck on 100% :/
[11:24] <somerville32> lol
[11:24] <somerville32> Live cd or alternative cd?
[11:25] <Tigr> the non-alternative one I think
[11:25] <maxamillion> live
[11:25] <Tigr> altnerative looked like you could mess it up
[11:25] <Tigr> so I chose the first one
[11:25] <Tigr> :D
[11:25] <Tigr> Desktop CD
[11:26] <somerville32> Ok.
[11:26] <Tigr> Know what the problem could be?