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venky# join ubuntu02:45
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homerhomerATI suck in Linux digg this and let ATI know that your next graphics card will not be an ATI (unless things change) http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_Avoid_ATI_Video_Cards03:53
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jmichaelxis it possible to upgrade to gutsy by changing the repo entries in the sources.list from 'edgy' to 'gutsy'?03:58
crimsunI do not recommend that. First dist-upgrade to feisty from edgy then to gutsy.04:06
FunnyLookinHatjmichaelx, you could do it that way...  but it would be pretty nasty04:06
FunnyLookinHatFurthermore...  use the update manager to get from edgy to feisty04:06
FunnyLookinHatrather than the apt-get method.04:06
jmichaelxcrimsun: that is what i meant.... change the repos to gutsy then dist-upgrade..... i meant to say feisty instead of edgy, sorry about that04:08
jmichaelxFunnyLookinHat: why use the upgrade manager? just curious as i have never used it04:08
FunnyLookinHatjmichaelx, there are discrepencies between releases that cannot be accounted for by simply updating the packages on your system.  A good example of that was from dapper -> Edgy when they changed the startup script04:10
Hobbseewell, you need to know what you're doing a bit04:10
jmichaelxinteresting04:10
Hobbseeit will work using apt - but you cant just mindlessly hit y, and expect it to work04:11
jmichaelxi usually wind up having to run dist-upgrade a few times for everything to take, then fenagle with some remaining python stuff that did not want to upgrade. it has never been too rough04:12
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Hobbseeyay, breakage04:22
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SmokeyD!mozilla12:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
SmokeyD!moztest12:41
ubotuThe Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.12:42
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Stormx2Any specs for gutsy yet?01:41
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Tomcat_Stormx2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy01:59
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RivaeAeryaHow gutsy is gutsy by now?03:38
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gnomefreakRivaeAerya: not really for public testing yet03:45
RivaeAeryaalright.03:46
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Stormx2Do you guys recon compositebydefault will be aproved?03:51
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ryanpgxorg is crashing... afterwords, apport runs... and it crashes too03:53
ryanpgthen apport runs again to debug it's own crash... it tries to open firefox (which is already open because I have to log-in to my network through a browser), firefox presents a dialog complaining that there's already a version running and please close it03:54
ryanpgthen it all happens again03:54
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ryanpgis there a howto that describes how to run dbg on a /var/crash/*.crash file?03:55
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ryanpgsorry meant gdb above of course03:56
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ryanpghuh, the files in /var/crash appear not to be core dumps04:01
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ryanpgwhen an application crashes, where is the core file found?04:44
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ryanpgI thought I could run apport-retrace on the *.crash file... apparently not... of course I'm completely guessing at what might be going on04:57
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Trewasit's quite annoying that there is no meta-package (linux-image-generic etc) in gutsy, or rather that the package has not been upgraded to depend on current 2.6.22-x kernels05:02
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MikelevelTrewas~ install it manually ... search 2.6.2205:05
Mikeleveland install all you need05:05
TrewasI know, but it won't get new kernels automagically on upgrades05:06
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