[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116303 in network-manager (main) "patch to add led + wireless power control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116303
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116304 in zope-common (main) "Please sync zope-common (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116304
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116306 in scim-hangul (main) "Sync request for libhangul from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116306
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116307 in constraint (universe) "[Sync Request]  Sync constraint (0.3.0-6) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116307
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116308 in wu-ftpd (universe) "[Merge]  wu-ftpd 2.6.2-26ubuntu1" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116308
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116310 in gnome-media (main) "sound goes through speakers with headphones connected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116310
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116305 in pidgin (main) "Gaim crashes when i send/resieve a massage during file transfer with OTR plugin enabled." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116305
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116311 in rhythmbox (main) "ipod say do not disconnect and I can't transfert songs." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116311
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116312 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116312
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116313 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  adept - repository manager - vbetool crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116313
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116314 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "After successful test and xorg.conf modification, reports failure" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116314
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #116315 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "Support for vx2025wm" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116315
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116316 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "displayconfig-gtk crashes when no xorg.conf present" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116316
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116317 in ia32-libs-sdl (universe) "missing libsdl-ttf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116317
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116318 in totem (main) "movie player wont respond when movies are loaded" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116318
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #116319 in update-manager (main) "update-manager aborts on hplip updating to Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116319
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116323 in jumpnbump (universe) "Please sync jumpnbump (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116323
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116320 in Ubuntu "slow load on all applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116320
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116321 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  baobab crashed with SIGSEGV in IA__gdk_region_rectangle()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116321
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116322 in gnomebaker (universe) "in feisty, gnomebaker cannot burn CD whereas wodim can" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116322
[01:44] <bdmurray> or a gag
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116324 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116324
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116325 in kmplayer (main) "[apport]  kxineplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_gui_send_vo_data()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116325
[01:46] <fernando> a gallows is very drastic too
[01:46] <owh> I have a bug that has a fix released and have now been asked to provide a backport to Dapper. How do I tell launchpad? Am I supposed to lodge a new bug and link the two?
[01:47] <owh> Or should I ask this in #launchpad?
[01:48] <bdmurray> what bug is that owh?
[01:48] <persia> owh: Would the fix go to the backports repository, or to the updates repository?  For updates, use "Nominate for Release" to ask for approval to get into updates.  For backports, use "Also affects Distribution" to also assign the bug to the dapper-backports virtual package.
[01:48] <owh> Bug #62831
[01:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 62831 in dosfstools "fsck.vfat truncates files of 4294967295 bytes length to 0 bytes at boot-time" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/62831
[01:49] <owh> persia: It's an update, not a backport. Its a bug fix for dosfstools.
[01:49] <owh> persia: So, you're saying I should "nominate for release"
[01:49] <persia> owh: In that case, use Nominate for Release.
[01:49] <persia> owh: Right.
[01:49] <owh> Doe
[01:50] <owh> doh, that should be "Done"
[01:50] <owh> It's easy when you know how :)
[01:50] <owh> Thanks all!
[01:50] <bdmurray> persia: the sru process doesn't require something different?
[01:52] <persia> bdmurray: The SRU process requires making a special package for the previously released distribution and subjecting to testing (search SRU on the wiki), but the first step is "Nominate for Release".
[01:53] <bdmurray> and subscribe ubuntu-sru team right?
[01:53] <owh> Do I need to do anything else?
[01:53] <persia> bdmurray: Probably.  I haven't done many SRUs.
[01:53] <bdmurray> owh: you might want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[01:55] <persia> bdmurray: Right - I think the only difference is that "Backport fix to releases" has become "Nominate for Release".
[01:55] <owh> I was just wondering that :)
[01:56] <owh> Subscribing the ubuntu-sru team doesn't seem to make sense. They won't get any updates because it's fixed, or will they get an announcement that they were added?
[01:56] <bdmurray> persia: okay
[01:57] <bdmurray> owh: they'll get an announcement about being subscribed
[01:57] <persia> owh: The bug will appear on the team's summary page, and they will receive the additional comments about the bug.  Subscribing teams is an important part of workflow.
[01:58] <owh> Yup. Just added them. I'm working through the list on the page that bdmurray showed me.
[01:58] <persia> owh: Thanks a lot.
[01:58] <bdmurray> I'm gonna change Backport to Nominate on the wiki page
[01:59] <owh> I'm not sure about the other things that I *must* provide. The patch was applied to the Edgy source, but AFAIK the Dapper source is the same.
[02:00] <persia> bdmurray: Also, the process appears to be a little different for main and universe: contrast https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU.
[02:00] <persia> owh: If the source is the same (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<package> shows which versions were in which releases), the patch would be the same, but the changelog entry is a little different.
[02:01] <owh> persia: I'm just clicking to check to confirm that they are the same.
[02:04] <owh> This shows that the version we patched: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dosfstools/2.11-2.1ubuntu1  was released to both dapper and edgy, or am I reading that wrong?
[02:04] <owh> the v2.11-2.1ubuntu2 was removed, the patch was wrong, the current version is v2.11-2.1ubuntu3
[02:05] <persia> owh: I think you are reading that right (although I use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dosfstools/ to look).
[02:05] <owh> persia: I was looking for that page, but couldn't get to it from the bug itself :)
[02:06] <persia> owh: The Overview link from the bug goes there.
[02:06] <owh> Ah, nice.
[02:07] <owh> So, how do I comply with the wiki? Where do I put all that information, or have I done my bit by nominating it and subscribing sru?
[02:08] <persia> owh: add all the information requested in the "Propose" section as a comment to the bug.
[02:09] <owh> persia: I don't see that section.
[02:10] <persia> owh: Which wiki page are you using?
[02:11] <owh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[02:11] <persia> owh: Under "How", section "1. Propose".
[02:12] <owh> persia: Yes, I see that, but where do I put the information being requested? In a comment?
[02:12] <owh> s/a comment/the bug comment/
[02:12] <persia> owh: The wiki page isn't very clear.  I'd use a comment, but I'm not 100% sure.
[02:13] <owh> persia: It's almost as if the expectation is that I send an email somewhere.
[02:13] <owh> Which doesn't make much sense.
[02:14] <owh> Is there an#ubuntu-sru channel?
[02:15] <owh> Yes, one with me in it :)
[02:15] <persia> owh: It looks that way to me as well, but there's no email address :)
[02:15] <owh> Heh. That's what I thought too.
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116326 in Ubuntu "No audio INTEL HD audio Realtek chip toshiba A205-S4577" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116326
[02:15] <owh> I'll start with a comment and go from there perhaps.
[02:17] <owh> The biggest killer is that dosfstools appears to have quite a few bugs and that not many are interested in actually fixing them. Some of these reports have been around for a long time.
[02:18] <Hobbsee> owh: then please fix them?
[02:19] <owh> Hobbsee: I'm working on it, I'm working on it. I'm just finding the going hard.
[02:19] <Hobbsee> ahh.  that may well be why, and that most people dont use it?
[02:19] <owh> There is only one of me, and most don't appear to care that much.
[02:19] <owh> Hobbsee: Well, quite a few people use it. You use it every time you use a FAT partition.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> there's only <60 developers on ubuntu, too.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> so, you're 1/60th, at the worst.
[02:20] <owh> :)
[02:20] <Hobbsee> in fact, i thought it was around 30
[02:20] <Hobbsee> not sure
[02:20] <owh> I don't feel so bad now :)
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116327 in gnome-applets (main) "Disk Mounter applet fails to appear on panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116327
[02:21] <Hobbsee> owh: people are under the impression that there are infinite developers, like there are in debian, maybe.  they're mistaken
[02:21] <owh> Hobbsee: Now I feel all warm and fuzzy :) Stop it :)
[02:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116328 in gnome-terminal (main) "no sound with ubuntu install on gateway laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116328
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116330 in sysklogd (main) "[apport]  syslogd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116330
[02:43] <owh> persia: So, have I now made a complete hash of it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dosfstools/+bug/62831
[02:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 62831 in dosfstools "fsck.vfat truncates files of 4294967295 bytes length to 0 bytes at boot-time" [High,Fix released] 
[02:48] <ScottK> keescook: Did you see the agenda for Friday's MOTU meeting?
[02:48] <persia> owh: It's not a hash, but it could be better.  Personally, I believe if the two bugs cover the same issue, they should be marked duplicates (and I'd use 62831 as the master).  Also, you've linked to a patch that brings it up to the current release version.  Ideally, there would be a two patches to make 2.11-2.1ubuntu1.1, which included only the necessary change to address the bug.  These patches would differ only in the target release (dapper-pro
[02:49] <keescook> ScottK: I did, yeah, looks pretty good.  I'm going to try to make it.  :)
[02:49] <ScottK> Great.
[02:49] <owh> persia: Your comment was broken off at (dapper-pro
[02:49] <ScottK> Opps.  Just noticed the channel.  Meant to ask in #ubuntu-motu.  Glad you saw it.
[02:49] <persia> owh: Sorry.  I hate buffers.  "(dapper-proposed vs. edgy-proposed)."
[02:50] <Hobbsee> keescook: good.  you have to come.  :P
[02:50] <keescook> :)
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116331 in debian-installer (main) "Firefox (v1.0.5.11) crashes unexpectedly from time to time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116331
[02:51] <owh> persia: Ok, some of what you say I think I understand. The two bugs are not covering the same issue, the patch covers both separate bugs. (And when I proposed the release I had forgotten that.)
[02:51] <owh> persia: I'm not sure how I do what you suggest with regard to the patch.
[02:52] <persia> owh: I think one is supposed to create a new bug for an SRU that addresses multiple issues, rather than using one of the affected bugs.
[02:52] <persia> owh: Have you created debdiff patches before?
[02:52] <owh> persia: No.
[02:53] <owh> persia: Sistpoty did the actual update. I just came along for the ride - and poking my finger in :)
[02:54] <owh> persia: He did the integer overflow, I found the rename bug.
[02:55] <persia> owh: That's a little more complicated then :)  I'm not seeing an easy guide on the Wiki.  I suspect that if you asked in #ubuntu-motu, someone would be happy to walk you through the process.
[02:55] <owh> Cool. I'm happy to do that.
[02:56] <crimsun> See the bottom half of https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/updating-chap.html
[02:56] <owh> crimsun: Is that for me?
[02:56] <crimsun> yes, WRT debdiff
[02:56] <owh> Ah
[02:56] <owh> Tah
[02:58] <owh> Can I not just cheat and tweak the patch that's already there, it's the same source AFAIK, or am I missing something?
[02:58] <persia> crimsun: Thanks.
[02:58] <persia> owh: You can cheat and tweak, but it's easy to break a patch.  If you manually adjust, be sure to test the patch before attaching it.
[03:00] <owh> Ok, I feel like I've bitten off a whole lot more than I can chew. I'm going to be off-line for 9 days as of tomorrow. I'm unsure how I do this without pissing anyone off.
[03:02] <persia> owh: If you will be away, the best things to do are to either find someone else to track and chase the fix, or just leave a comment that you'll be away, will be getting back to when you return (dates are good), and would welcome anyone else helping with the process while you are away.
[03:04] <owh> persia: So, from your description I get a sense of what needs to happen, but I'm not sure I grasp the finer detail. Is there some kind of mentor process than can assist me in walking through this?
[03:08] <persia> owh: One's just being set up, but won't be ready for a few more days.  Until then, asking here about bug processing and in #ubuntu-motu about packaging and patching is your best option.
[03:10] <owh> I don't have a sense at all how much time I'm committing to by nominating for release. At the moment it feels like many hours, but I don't know if that is skewed by my lack of understanding. I have no way of measuring my error.
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #116333 in Ubuntu "JAVA mouse pointer lags, slower than XP Pro" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116333
[03:21] <owh> persia: I don't have a sense at all how much time I'm committing to by nominating for release. At the moment it feels like many hours, but I don't know if that is skewed by my lack of understanding. I have no way of measuring my error.
[03:22] <owh> Sorry, just Ctrl-W on the wrong focus.
[03:22] <persia> owh: Sorry.  It depends on the bug.  For some things, the process goes quickly, and for others it is slow.  It takes me about 20 minutes to prep & test a simple patch, but I've a bit of practice.  Most of the time commitment will not be active, but rather keeping track of how many days have passed, and following the processes.
[03:23] <persia> Overall, I'd guess that it takes about two weeks to process an SRU, if things go well.
[03:24] <owh> persia: I'm thinking that it would be smartest for me to add a comment that says: I'll be offline. And when I come back to use the hopefully released mentor scheme to do this. What do you think?
[03:24] <persia> owh: If you'll be away for 9 days, that sounds reasonable.
[03:25] <owh> persia: I'll make it so :)
[03:26] <owh> persia: Thanks for your assistance.
[03:26] <persia> owh: No problems.  Thanks for helping with dosfstools - as you said, it needs some attention :)
[03:26] <owh> persia: :)
[03:27] <owh> Or should that be :|
[03:27] <persia> :)
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116334 in iputils (main) "traceroute6 provides useless man page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116334
[03:43] <persia> bdmurray: Do we really need retraces for duplicate bugs?  At least in the case 87434, 89485 and 55839, I'm certain of the duplication without the retrace.
[03:50] <bdmurray> persia: sorry about that I was going throught the bugs mailing list and I think some messages might be missing in it.  I'll go double check those
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116335 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116335
[03:51] <persia> bdmurray: No worries.  I don't mind a little extra mail, but thought you might be able to save yourself a little work if there was a way to check duplication as part of your workflow.
[03:54] <bdmurray> I'm using some mutt madness with the ubuntu-bugs mailing list to tag the old ones needing retrace.  However, I'm not positive everything goes to the mailing list and checking each bugs web page would be more work.
[03:56] <bdmurray> persia: are those bugs numbers the bugs I tagged or dups of those bugs?
[03:56] <persia> bdmurray: More work is bad.  Keep sending retrace requests - they're a huge help when it's not obvious.
[03:56] <bdmurray> with gutsy apport will auto add the tags
[03:56] <bdmurray> I was just trying to clean up the feisty stuff
[03:57] <persia> bdmurray: Those are master bugs.  The most recent tags were 103259 and 90490.  With apport adding the tags, I expect the retrace will get there before it is triaged.  I was just suprised to see retrace requests for bugs I understood and knew had been addressed.
[03:59] <bdmurray> hmm, I didn't receive a duplication e-mail about 90490 for sure
[04:00] <persia> bdmurray: No.  You marked it duplicate when adding the tag (at least as I understand my bugmail).  That's the trigger than made me ask.
[04:01] <bdmurray> persia: that's odd I found this archive about that bug
[04:01] <bdmurray> http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg202713.html
[04:01] <bdmurray> showing somebody else marking it as a dup and a mail I didn't get, but that must be me
[04:02] <persia> bdmurray: No, it's just me reading bugmail wrong.  I wasn't a bug contact for audacity in march, so Malone decided to send me the last two changes with your name attached.  Sorry for the confusion.
[04:03] <bdmurray> persia: no problem, ideally I wouldn't have tagged it
[04:04] <persia> bdmurray: Ideally, but if you're processing the bugmail queue directly, it's a lot of extra work to make sure you don't tag dups.
[04:06] <bdmurray> yeah, I think the error is okay for now but I should get it worked out
[04:07] <bdmurray> at least I'm not tagging python bugs for retracing
[04:07] <persia> bdmurray: :)
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116336 in iptables (main) "iptables package should include an example script to save/restore config" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116336
[04:24] <persia> bdmurray: Another one - for bug 114389, apport retracing already happened.  Again, I don't mind the mail, but I thought you might want feedback on your workflow.
[04:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114389 in horgand "horgand crashes when changing instrument" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114389
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116341 in Ubuntu "Dist-upgrade failed in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116341
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #116343 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116343
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116344 in Ubuntu "Sifilinaptic Package Error for 3 days" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116344
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #116346 in htop (universe) "upgrade/update to latest release 0.6.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116346
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116347 in boson (universe) "[apport]  boson crashed with SIGSEGV in glGetString()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116347
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #116348 in banshee (universe) "Banshee Crashes While playing a Song and clicking a Recommended Artist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116348
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #116349 in cupsys (main) "[apport]  pstops crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116349
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116329 in gdm (main) "Login screen missing when login reconfigured" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116329
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116350 in software-properties (main) "[apport]  software-properties-kde crashed with SIGSEGV in QTreeWidgetItem::setData()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116350
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116351 in Ubuntu "terminal window fork bomb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116351
[08:41] <dholbach> good morning
[08:42] <thekorn> hey dholbach
[08:42] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[08:42] <dholbach> how's it going?
[08:43] <thekorn> I'm fine, you are right with the api-change,
[08:43] <thekorn> will start a branch now
[08:44] <dholbach> excellent
[08:44] <dholbach> i'll check it out every now and then and make some suggestions
[08:45] <dholbach> thekorn: will the API changes be what you're working on atm?
[08:45] <dholbach> thekorn: btw: your output changes ROCK - the html output in the bughelper reports is clean and nice now
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #113220 in Ubuntu "System's groups must have a fix gid" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113220
[08:47] <thekorn> dholbach: yeah, I will start changing HTMLOperations maybe today
[08:48] <dholbach> thekorn: you ROCK
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #113427 in clamav (universe) "[apport]  clamscan crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113427
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #113590 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113590
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #116352 in vlc (universe) "[apport]  vlc crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116352
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #114849 in thunderbird (main) "Aprs utilisation liste numrote, bug lors de la suppression et lors du retour en ligne normale " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114849
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #114881 in gparted (main) "[needs-packaging]  gparted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114881
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115105 in update-manager (main) "update-manager locks apt permanently" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115105
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115134 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115134
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116353 in uqm (multiverse) "Please merge uqm 0.6.2.dfsg-3 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116353
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115376 in synaptic (main) "[apport]  synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115376
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116354 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "keyboard hungs up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116354
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #115668 in gnome-panel (main) "Multiple workspaces disabled, cannot activate desktop effects, xgl and beryl didn work, keys were invalid." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115668
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #110801 in vmware-player (multiverse) "VMware player 1.0.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110801
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116054 in xorg-server (main) "low display resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116054
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116355 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116355
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116356 in kdebase (main) "Konsole cannot be made borderless like Eterm and other terminal emulators" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116356
[10:06] <thedonvaughn> when i'm anwsering a question on launchpad, how do i set it to "Needs information" ?
[10:06] <thedonvaughn> nevermind i got it figured out :)
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116357 in Ubuntu "usb disk will not auto mount" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116357
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116358 in qtparted (main) "QtParted doesn't report about number of partitions limitation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116358
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116359 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  etree-scripts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116359
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116360 in Ubuntu "seems that DHCP leases are not renewed after resuming from hibernation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116360
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116361 in Ubuntu "weather applet crashes on logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116361
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116362 in gedit (main) "Preferences>View>Display right margin doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116362
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116363 in libxcb (main) "Please sync libxcb 1.0-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116363
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116365 in xorg-server (main) "X SERVER RESTART" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116365
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116366 in Ubuntu "Feisty will not recognize Epson C60 printer." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116366
[11:13] <thekorn> dholbach: I'm starting the api changes in python-lp-bugs now, I think we can commit the patch against bughelper in bug 116243 to bughelper.main and commit the other one to py-lp-bugs/api-change
[11:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116243 in python-launchpad-bugs "move utils.py from python-launchpad-bugs to bughelper" [Low,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116243
[11:20] <dholbach> thekorn: right, that should work
[11:22] <thekorn> dholbach: that might be the easiest solution, otherwise we would need a bughelper/api-change branch too
[11:22] <dholbach> thekorn: ok cool :)
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116368 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116368
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116370 in Ubuntu "109181  kprinter's "mail pdf file" crashes with konqueror" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116370
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116372 in bughelper (main) "[apport]  bughelper crashed with TypeError in main()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116372
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116371 in bzr (main) "bzr doc-base directs to wrong index page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116371
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116373 in gs-esp (main) "not sure what the package is for even" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116373
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #116374 in yelp (main) "ubuntu help center open repeatidlynig " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116374
[12:01] <thekorn> dholbach: we need some scripts to test code changes in bughelper/py-lp-bugs, otherwise we will get more bugreports like bug 116372
[12:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116372 in bughelper "[apport]  bughelper crashed with TypeError in main()" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116372
[12:02] <dholbach> thekorn: definitely agreed, please commit the patch - it looks good
[12:02] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll look into unittest and doctest
[12:05] <thekorn> dholbach: commited, I don't have any experiences with those test modules, will read some docs/examples
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116375 in kdebase (main) "No hdd icons on KDesktop (KDE 3.5.7)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116375
[12:06] <dholbach> thekorn: same here :)
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116376 in mpage (universe) "mpage produces PostScript which makes p2pdf suck memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116376
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116379 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116379
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116380 in autoconf (main) "autoconf --version outputs errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116380
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116381 in apport (main) "apport-qt removed when install KDE 4 alpha: problem with qt dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116381
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116378 in bzr-gtk "Out of date in gutsy (no 0.16 package)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116378
[01:02] <ubotu> New bug: #116382 in briquolo (universe) "I tried to run Briquolo, but it crashed. I believe that my OpenGL installation/configuration may be flawed in some way, or my NVIDIA drivers may be badly installed. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116382
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116383 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116383
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116384 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116384
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116385 in bcel (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116385
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116386 in Ubuntu "[apport]  scim-launcher crashed with SIGSEGV in _Unwind_DeleteException()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116386
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116389 in alacarte (main) "Drag and Drop requires an application restart to function properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116389
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116390 in kernel-patch-vserver (universe) "No kernel-patch-vserver for feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116390
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #116391 in alacarte (main) "Pressing Enter Key on New Menu/New Item should trigger the OK/Close Button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116391
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #116392 in gdm (main) "gdm crashes with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116392
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116394 in enchant (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116394
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116395 in keep (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116395
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116396 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "No sound on Toshiba p200 laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116396
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116397 in libmx4j-java (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116397
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116398 in libxalan2-java (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116398
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116399 in gnome-session (main) "[apport]  gnome-session crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116399
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116400 in libxerces2-java (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116400
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116401 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-kde crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in assemble()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116401
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116402 in rhino (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116402
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116403 in zope-common (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116403
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116404 in rhythmbox (main) ""Copy to library" button appears to do nothing." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116404
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116405 in twisted-conch (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116405
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116406 in ubiquity (main) "Instalation chashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116406
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116407 in twisted-web2 (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116407
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116408 in twisted-web (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116408
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116412 in twisted-mail (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116412
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116413 in twisted-lore (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116413
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116409 in twisted-news (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116409
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116410 in twisted-names (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116410
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116411 in acpi-support (main) "wrong s2disk parameters invoked by hibernate.sh in acpi-support 0.95 when /etc/usplash.conf is present" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116411
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #116414 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in doPoll()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116414
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #93840 in upstart "power button pressed many times on gdm gives root access" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93840
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116415 in puppet (universe) "puppet and puppetd have no man pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116415
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116416 in Ubuntu "guidance-power-manager and kpowersave stop working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116416
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116417 in puppet (universe) "puppetmasterd and puppetca have no man pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116417
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116418 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  PARTIAL package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): installArchives() failed " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116418
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116419 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "cannot install Ubuntu 7.04 on sun ultra 45" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116419
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116420 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "Backend requires a module section" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116420
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #116421 in firefox (main) "firefox shell breaks "profile" option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116421
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #116422 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116422
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116423 in Ubuntu "kde-init says has crashed on system launch..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116423
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116424 in Ubuntu "no onboard sound on laptop (NEC)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116424
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116425 in Ubuntu "screen saver (MOLECULE) hangoff my pc and i only see this path(CREATING MOLECULE) and my system does n't responed any more" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116425
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116429 in samba (main) "[apport]  net crashed with SIGSEGV in run_rpc_command()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116429
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116427 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror crashed with signal 11 (SIGSEGV) when it was closed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116427
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116431 in gnuplot (universe) "Compressed documentation breaks gnuplot demos" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116431
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116432 in postgis (universe) "postgis should provide postgresql-8.2-postgis" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116432
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116434 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  FFTV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116434
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116435 in totem (main) "Plays CD, but won't play DVD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116435
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116436 in ubuntu-meta (main) "wrong version of ndiswrapper in ship-live seed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116436
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116428 in Ubuntu "7.04 liveCD crashes at boot time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116428
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #116438 in Ubuntu "LC_CTYPE, LC_MESSAGES, LC_* is mostly incorrectly encoded by startup scripts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116438
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116440 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "USB hard drive (iPod) I/O errors on read. Works fine in Feisty LiveCD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116440
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116441 in vmware-player (multiverse) "Please upgrade VMWare Player to current (1.0.2 -> 2.0) (Feisty and LTS)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116441
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116442 in firefox (main) "Firefox Crashes While Doing Nothing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116442
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116443 in Ubuntu "Cannot set custom program icons in the application menu." [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116443
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116444 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "[patch]  i810 requires MonitorLayout in dual screen layout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116444
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116445 in software-properties (main) "software-properties-kde does not check if apt lines are valid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116445
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116446 in sshfs-fuse (universe) "[apport]  sshfs crashed with SIGSEGV in g_hash_table_insert()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116446
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #116447 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116447
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116448 in evince (main) "document is set iin the centre of the screen; i can't view full screen or fit to page width." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116448
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116449 in Ubuntu "sound sounds and can be saved from the file menu, but then the play-back/record/save buttons won't work.  It's V.2.5 with Japanese interface." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116449
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116450 in libpgjava (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116450
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116453 in evince (main) "evince can not find special characters in pdfs " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116453
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116455 in Ubuntu "uim-gtk2.0: blocks upgrade of gtk (gutsy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116455
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116456 in Ubuntu "Unexplained feisty lockups" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116456
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116457 in glom (universe) "crashes when all fields in a table are removed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116457
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #116459 in bluez-utils (main) "[apport]  hcid crashed with SIGSEGV in strftime_l()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116459
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116460 in gnome-terminal (main) "cannot update any package or security update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116460
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116461 in rdiff-backup (main) "keep error : Exception '[Errno 27]  File too large' raised of class" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116461
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116463 in python2.5 (main) "[apport]  pydoc2.5 crashed with AttributeError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116463
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116464 in gnome-power-manager (main) ""Display brightness" slider does not show up on Dell Latitude D810" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116464
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116465 in Ubuntu "Update to feisty failed on 3 different computers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116465
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116466 in serpentine (main) "Serpentine problem when musics are erased" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116466
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116467 in service-discovery-applet (universe) "sda crashes on login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116467
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #116451 in freetype (main) "integer overflow security vunelrability (CVE-2007-2754)" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116451
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116468 in upstart (main) "recovery menu hookins for upstart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116468
[07:36] <dkm> hi, I found a bug report which may not be in the good state -> #106884
[07:36] <dkm> it's marked as "fix released" but it's not the case
[07:37] <dkm> the reporter of the bug closed it by this way
[07:37] <dkm> maybe it should be rejected
[07:37] <crimsun> bug 106884
[07:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106884 in xorg-server "xorg catches signal 11 visiting iPhone pages on apple.com" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106884
[07:37] <dkm> (I don't know if it has an influence on the processing of packaging, so I prefer to signal it)
[07:41] <crimsun> yes, that's a mistriage.  It's most definitely not an xorg-server bug.  It likely belongs in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20, and it should have been rejected.
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #116469 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV in dlopen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116469
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116470 in sox (universe) "[apport]  sox crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116470
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116473 in gfa (universe) "Sync request: gfa_0.4.1-1 from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116473
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116475 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with IOError in gzopen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116475
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116476 in Ubuntu "distribution upgrade "A fatal error occured"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116476
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116477 in hal (main) "canoscan lide 20 not working in ubuntu feisty 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116477
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116479 in gnome-games (main) "Bug after getting blackjack on split aces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116479
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116480 in nvidia-settings (restricted) "Can only change resolution through nvidia-settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116480
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #116481 in openoffice.org (main) "OOo Writer crashes with gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116481
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116482 in Ubuntu "Drag & Drop with X causes GNOME not to respond any more" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116482
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116483 in Ubuntu "neomagic + xfce teminal = xfce restart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116483
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116484 in mixxx (universe) "[apport]  mixxx crashed with SIGSEGV in __R300DRMSubmitPM4()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116484
[09:24] <Xk2c_> two questions:
[09:25] <Xk2c_> 1. is it possibly that a [apport]  bug ever has missing or wrong information?
[09:25] <bdmurray> 1. yes
[09:25] <Xk2c_> 2. following situation
[09:25] <Xk2c_> we uploaded a new version to gutsy
[09:25] <Xk2c_> that fix a bug
[09:26] <Xk2c_> the user has feisty and will not automatically get the update
[09:26] <Xk2c_> how to tell him in kind way in that bugreport?
[09:26] <Xk2c_> (i want to close that bug in question)
[09:27] <Xk2c_> bdmurray: huh?
[09:27] <Xk2c_> that surprises me
[09:27] <Xk2c_> how come?
[09:28] <bdmurray> It is possible that there was a failure in the transmission of the data or that the user decided not to send the core dump.
[09:28] <Xk2c_> ic
[09:28] <bdmurray> in regards to 2 see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#head-db3dbd9f6807f984cf427c8c993ba67c2b61d4f3
[09:28] <Xk2c_> is there a singh to me as a triager that a aport bug is incomplete
[09:28] <Xk2c_> ?
[09:29] <bdmurray> missing a CoreDump.gz in the attachments is a good sign
[09:30] <bdmurray> failre to provide an informative retrace is also problematic and it is a good idea to ask for a backtrace on their system
[09:31] <Xk2c_> link to "Backports Homepage" on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#request-new-packages is broken
[09:31] <bdmurray> I think it is also important to check the package version as there may be some lingering prerelease apport bugs.
[09:32] <bdmurray> really? that worked for me
[09:33] <Xk2c_> bdmurray: $ httping -g http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:33] <Xk2c_> PING backports.ubuntuforums.org:80 (http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/):
[09:33] <Xk2c_> The specified host is unknown.
[09:33] <Xk2c_> The specified host is unknown.
[09:33] <Xk2c_> on  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#request-new-packages
[09:33] <Xk2c_> down at the end
[09:33] <bdmurray> ah, I misread what link was broken
[09:34] <Xk2c_> ok bdmurray when coredump is missing it difficult, right?
[09:35] <bdmurray> As I understand it yes it is more difficult.  But keep in mind a python crash won't have a core dump.
[09:36] <Xk2c_> :/
[09:36] <Xk2c_> ok bdmurray thanks again
[09:36] <Xk2c_> :) cu later
[09:37] <bdmurray> no problem take care
[09:40] <Fan> Ima li iko ovde da  govori srpski
[09:40] <Fan> Im found couple bugs in Feisty fawn
[09:41] <Fan> about TTY
[09:42] <Fan> hello
[09:43] <Fan> jebem vam majk cigansku popisam vam se  Slackvare je miliardu puta bolji
[09:43] <Fan> *slackware
[09:46] <Fan> Who is owner of tis room
[09:47] <Fan> Feisty Fawn have bugs in Gaim
[09:48] <Flannel> Fan: launchpad.net
[09:48] <Fan> what about bugs in TTY screens
[09:48] <Flannel> Fan: All Ubuntu bugs are files at Launchpad
[09:48] <crimsun> specifically, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+filebug
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116486 in ettercap (universe) "Ettercap-gtk: Shows Invalid Network Interface" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116486
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #116487 in thunderbird (main) "Mozilla Thunderbird does not correctly interpret drag'n'dropped file addresses " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116487
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #116488 in alacarte (main) "New Menu displays error "the name of the launcher is not set"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116488
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #116489 in alacarte (main) "Cancel button for "New Menu"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116489
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116490 in alacarte (main) "Can't move up / down twice in a row" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116490
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #114258 in Ubuntu "Trouble viewing beyond 3GB of available 4GB memory using 64bit kernel" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114258
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116491 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Failing middle click bug from linux-source-2.6.20 is back in 2.6.22-5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116491
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116492 in alacarte (main) "Delete button should appear below "Move Up" and "Move Down"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116492
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116493 in Ubuntu "Bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116493
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116494 in alacarte (main) "Confirmation Dialog before Deleting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116494
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116495 in alacarte (main) "Can't create separator unless we select the right pane." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116495
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116496 in alacarte (main) "Reverting changes when submenus are created make the submenus appear as alacarte-made-#" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116496
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116497 in alacarte (main) "Can't delete item if it's a duplicate is in the same folder." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116497
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116499 in inkscape (main) "[apport]  inkscape crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116499
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116501 in alacarte (main) "Dark line when drag and dropping is very difficult to see" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116501
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116502 in linux-meta (main) "Wishlist: Compile the kernel with NFSv3 ACL support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116502
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116500 in alacarte (main) "Pressing Delete key when selecting left pane should ask for confirmation, then delete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116500
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116503 in alacarte (main) "Inconsistency between Copy and Move while Drag and Droping" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116503
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #116504 in alacarte (main) "When creating a new item, the "name" field should be selected by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116504
[10:22] <Xk2c_> question: apport bug, retrace attached, user has been asked for vlagrind log
[10:22] <Xk2c_> user did not respond yet
[10:22] <Xk2c_> is there anything left to do now?
[10:23] <Xk2c_> maybe with the retrace?
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #116498 in alacarte (main) "Right clicking left pane should trigger a menu (New Menu, New Item, Revert, Delete)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116498
[10:32] <seb128> Xk2c_: close the bug
[10:32] <seb128> if he doesn't provide the valgrind log
[10:32] <Xk2c_> seb128: first reported on 2007-03-29
[10:33] <Xk2c_> seb128: he had enough time
[10:33] <seb128> 1 month without reply is enough to close the bug
[10:33] <Xk2c_> since we are about it
[10:33] <seb128> he can still reopen if he replies later
[10:33] <Xk2c_> ic
[10:33] <Xk2c_> since we are about it
[10:33] <Xk2c_> i am cruurently writing a mail about this issue
[10:34] <Xk2c_> "needs info" bugs without reply
[10:34] <seb128> to say what?
[10:34] <seb128> we just close them
[10:34] <Xk2c_> how about a timer on those bugs
[10:34] <Xk2c_> that exeeds after say 3 months
[10:34] <Xk2c_> ans close them
[10:35] <Xk2c_> with an reminder send out once a month?
[10:35] <Xk2c_> would that be usefull?
[10:35] <seb128> no real need for the reminder
[10:35] <seb128> we just close them
[10:35] <Xk2c_> yes
[10:35] <seb128> you can list need info by "recently changed" list
[10:35] <Xk2c_> but that needs an extra manual action
[10:35] <seb128> autoclose might be something to discuss, not sure if that's a good idea
[10:36] <seb128> sometime people reply and don't reopen
[10:36] <seb128> sometime they reopen something which is of no use
[10:37] <seb128> sometime bug are needinfo but might have enough informations to not be closed
[10:37] <Xk2c_> ic
[10:38] <seb128> you can still mail the bugsquad list about the idea
[10:38] <bdmurray> seb128: I think there was some auto close discussion at UDS
[10:38] <Xk2c_> ok seb128
[10:38] <seb128> bdmurray: I think it would make sense for crashers
[10:39] <seb128> bdmurray: not sure about other bugs
[10:39] <seb128> it depends if "Needs Info" is used for bugs which have no use without extra detail
[10:39] <bdmurray> Personally I just closed ~40 bugs w/o a response
[10:40] <seb128> or to ask details which are not really required
[10:40] <seb128> Daniel closed like 100 this afternoon
[10:40] <seb128> and I closed like 40 yesterday
[10:40] <bdmurray> it is a slow process
[10:40] <seb128> that's easy usually list Needs Info by "recently changed" and 90% of the old bugs can be closed
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116505 in Ubuntu "i am not able to see a foreward button when I am installing." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116505
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116506 in gnash (universe) "[apport]  gnash crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116506
[10:40] <seb128> I don't find it that slow
[10:41] <bdmurray> right I still have to have to go to every bug's web page and wait for lp to load
[10:41] <seb128> it's just a middle click on a list of bugs and use the stock reply on all the bugs that can be closed
[10:42] <seb128> right, I made them load in tabs by clicking on a serie of bugs in the list
[10:42] <seb128> and then close tabs to go to next one which is already loaded
[10:42] <seb128> that's still manual work and automatic closing could be nice
[10:42] <bdmurray> what do you mean by clicking on a series?
[10:43] <seb128> middle click on like 10 bugs in the list
[10:43] <seb128> that will open tabs for them
[10:43] <bdmurray> each bug one at a time though right?
[10:43] <seb128> yes
[10:44] <seb128> making a greasmonkey script to open all the bugs in tabs is probably easy
[10:44] <seb128> maybe I should do a quick hack ;)
[10:44] <pochu> seb128: let us know if you do it :)
[10:44] <seb128> pochu: k ;)
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116507 in alacarte (main) "When moving, item disappears temporarily" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116507
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #116508 in alacarte (main) "Incorrect item selected when creating new item" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116508
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #116509 in gnome-panel (main) "impossible d enregistrer une image puis de fermer le fichier" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116509
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116511 in Ubuntu "BBC news videos launch three embedded kmplayers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116511
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116512 in Ubuntu "update fails to install ia32-libs_1.19ubuntu1_amd64.deb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116512
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116513 in Ubuntu "'MacBook/MacBook Pro (Intl)' Keyboard Model error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116513
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116516 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "HP Pavillon w5000 Geforce6600 GT" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116516
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116517 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu won't access USB Phone" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116517
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116518 in Ubuntu "KDE 3.5.7 upgrade removes "split window" Konqi feature" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116518
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #116519 in angrydd (universe) "[apport]  angrydd.py crashed with AttributeError in __init__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116519