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gnomefreak@schedule new_york02:14
ubotuSchedule for America/New_York: 23 May 16:00: Edubuntu | 24 May 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 25 May 08:00: MOTU | 27 May 10:00: LoCo Team | 29 May 11:00: Kernel Team | 29 May 17:00: Community Council02:14
gnomefreakim gonna let this run over night and see if i get the beep again it hasnt beeped since i loged in 15-25 minutes ago.02:33
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Admiral_Chicagoseems as if my router is now online...should be able to *stay* online too after all my stuggling with it09:12
gnomefreakcongrats :) sorry to hear about your router issues09:37
gnomefreakasac: if your up, did you find anyone to build OO.o?09:46
gnomefreakok got to stop uploading for now.10:03
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asacola11:52
=== asac starting in a long day :/
asacgnomefreak: anything urgent11:52
asac?11:52
asaclike ... everything crashes in dapper repo :)11:53
asacor even worse ... in gutsy11:53
gnomefreaknope just building my ass off11:53
gnomefreakjust wanted to know if you found someone for OO.o11:53
gnomefreakoh and do i build the alternates? the ones that start with a | in rdepends11:53
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asacgnomefreak: we had a netsplit12:00
asacif you didn't realize12:00
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asacgnomefreak: you there?12:00
asacif you hear me: we should rebuild everything that has build-depends on firefox-dev libnss3-dev and libnspr4-dev12:01
asacfor packages that just have depends on firefox (but no build-depends on firefox-dev or that alike) we should test them thoroughly12:01
gnomefreakyep here12:01
asacand maybe look at code to verify that things are ok12:01
asac(dunno if any such package exists actually)12:01
asacgnomefreak: for locale packages we should add the ones from feisty12:02
asace.g. replace the current ones with what we have in feisty12:02
asacbut exclude locales that have not been previously been in dapper12:02
gnomefreakok12:02
asacif you come to those (which are really important) :) ... let me know12:02
gnomefreakk just take dappers locales from feisty and build12:02
asachow far did you get so far?12:02
asacwhat applications are there?12:03
gnomefreaki rocking12:03
gnomefreak60+12:03
asacgnomefreak: yes ... please make the version of the locale packages smaller then the ones in feisty12:03
gnomefreakwell change that12:03
asacso people will still get an upgrade12:03
asac60+ ?12:03
asacapps?12:03
asacdo you have a list?12:03
gnomefreakim done with all of libnss libnspr12:03
asacare they all online already12:04
asac?12:04
gnomefreakyeah if you give me a few minutes ill type them up12:04
gnomefreakyes online ready to use12:04
asacno ... i will just look in repo then12:04
asacyou have url?12:04
gnomefreakyeah one sec12:04
asacat hand ;)12:04
gnomefreakhttp://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/dapper/main/12:05
gnomefreakim uploading gnome-app-install and flash atm12:05
asacyou rock :)12:06
gnomefreak:)12:06
asacsources all up as well?12:06
gnomefreaki had very bad day yesterday so im trying to make up for it :)12:07
gnomefreakyes12:07
gnomefreaki have maybe 12 more to build total. i have a list of what is left so i dont have to check rdepends all the time12:07
asacfine12:14
asacwhen you are done i will respin everything :)12:14
gnomefreaklol12:17
gnomefreakthats alot of work btw ;12:17
gnomefreak)12:17
asaci hope i find a way to auto-respin12:19
gnomefreakok taking a break now12:23
gnomefreakhmmmmmm12:30
gnomefreakasac: you know anything about gecko-sharp?12:31
gnomefreaklast changelog entry is gecko-sharp (0.6-3ubuntu3) breezy; urgency=low12:32
asacdunno ... probably a c-sharp binding to gecko mozembed12:37
asacneeds a rebuild I guess12:37
asacand some testcase to verify that it actually works12:38
asacare there examples in that package?12:38
asacgnomefreak: ^^^ ?12:38
gnomefreakit is and it does12:38
gnomefreakit was autosynced12:38
gnomefreakthats why no changelog for dapper12:39
asacsure12:39
asacso does it build?12:39
asacare there examples you can test?12:39
gnomefreaknot sure yet but everything looks good so far12:39
gnomefreakexamples?12:39
gnomefreakim grabbing build-deps atm for it12:40
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SmokeyDhey people, just for fun I tried to apt-get -b source thunderbird from the preview archive on amd64. I get the known bug that in order to build thunderbird I need libnspr4-dev which conflicts with libnspr4 (provided by firefox). So I can't install libnspr4-dev and therefore not compile thunderbird without unintalling firefox and most gnome packages12:44
SmokeyDthe libnspr4-dev conflict is a known bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner/+bug/5716112:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 57161 in xulrunner "Impossible to install libsmjs-dev with firefox present" [High,Confirmed] 12:44
gnomefreakSmokeyD: its not built using xulrunner yet12:45
gnomefreakSmokeyD: you need the -dev packages to build anything. after its built install the other ones back12:45
SmokeyDok, yeah that is a solution12:45
gnomefreakthere is nothing we can do with that yet12:45
SmokeyDnot the best one but it will work :)12:45
gnomefreakSmokeyD: that is why we built it for you12:47
SmokeyD:) yeah I know12:47
gnomefreakso we are the only ones that have to deal with that atm12:47
SmokeyDI just like playing around12:47
SmokeyD:)12:47
SmokeyDBut that is my problem, I know12:47
SmokeyDonce I have something in my head, I won't stop till I have it ;)12:48
asacSmokeyD: thunderbird is not up to date for amd64 i guess12:51
asaci wanted to build it today :)12:51
SmokeyD:)12:51
asace.g. that is if you are on feisty12:51
SmokeyDyep12:51
gnomefreakasac: in case i forgot trunk fails to build. last one that built was 20070430 (incase you find time)12:53
asacgood ... do we have trunk in gutsy as well? or just in feisty for now?12:56
asacgnomefreak: not so good of course ... but thanks for the reminder :)12:56
gnomefreakonly feisty12:58
gnomefreakonce we find out what is wrong (something with gfx(or whatever its called)12:58
gnomefreaki can make a gutsy repo and send it there for you to build or figure that out when we get there. my most important thing is trying to finish this backports stuff. i was reversed i had finished 12 not 12 left. wont know how many left until i figure out what builds what01:01
asacgnomefreak: ok ... gutsy trunk build can wait01:09
asaci will prepare a -preview package with latest 3.0 alpha release as soon as alpha5 is out01:09
gnomefreakk01:11
gnomefreakasac: your not using dapper repo yet right?01:24
asaci have no x86 :)01:25
gnomefreakah ok01:26
gnomefreaklots and lots of building ;)02:19
asacright ... thats the way it should be02:22
asacno ooo volunteer yes02:22
gnomefreakkind of fun02:22
gnomefreakwhen i finish if we still dont have a volunteer ill do it but it will just take time (if it really is that big)02:47
asacif you have done everything else ... give it a spin02:53
asacand lets pray :)02:53
asacgnomefreak: maybe you can try to catch volunteers? maybe you have more luck :)02:54
gnomefreakill try sometime today02:54
asac:)02:55
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SmokeyDhey guys. I succeeded in compiling TB2 on amd64 in feisty03:27
SmokeyD:)03:27
gnomefreakSmokeyD: if it was broke we wouldnt have uploaded it ;)03:29
SmokeyD:)03:29
SmokeyDthat's true. :D I'm just glad it worked03:30
gnomefreakis that your first one?03:30
SmokeyDwell, not mu first compiled program, but the first one with such a devel status and from apt source files03:30
SmokeyDI did ./configure make make-install tons of times03:31
gnomefreakah ok congrats than03:31
SmokeyD:)03:31
gnomefreakanyone in here feeling brave?03:33
=== gnomefreak might get to it tonight at the rate im moving asac
gnomefreakvlc was a big one but i think that is about it for the long builds, maybe locales03:37
gnomefreakcaller ID applet for ubuntu would really really come in handy today03:48
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gnomefreakjava sucks04:23
gnomefreak@schedule new_york04:27
ubotuSchedule for America/New_York: 23 May 16:00: Edubuntu | 24 May 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 25 May 08:00: MOTU | 27 May 10:00: LoCo Team | 29 May 11:00: Kernel Team | 29 May 17:00: Community Council04:27
gnomefreakrunning last build for a a few hours to get caught up04:30
SmokeyDhey people, when releasing TB2 for amd64, is it possible to also add the lightning extension?04:53
SmokeyDit is only available for Linux x86 not amd6404:54
asacSmokeyD: i am working on lightning05:23
asacis a bit tricky to do it right05:23
asacthe way upstream builds it is just a mess05:23
asacand should only be a last resort in case we cannot make it better05:23
Admiral_Chicagoconnection is fixed now...06:38
Admiral_Chicagogreat06:38
Admiral_Chicagotime to get ready for me day...06:38
gnomefreakok im back working06:47
gnomefreakwe really need one package that builds all firefox extenstions :(06:47
gnomefreakasac: is that feasible or way too much to do?06:48
asacyou understood wrong06:55
asacwe need to build lightning from sunbird sources06:55
asacnot all extensions06:58
gnomefreakno i mean for what im working on06:58
asacwhat firefox extensions do you see?06:59
gnomefreakthere are maybe 9 mozilla-* packages like mozilla-nukeimage mozilla-tabextenstion06:59
asaccan you give me a complete list .... somewhere in wiki at best ... i can add comments then06:59
asacgnomefreak: if they are not arch dependent you should just try if they still work07:00
asacthey might work07:00
asacif they don't then we need to upgrade them07:00
asacto new upstream07:00
asacgnomefreak: if you come up with a complete list, then i can comment on them ... e.g. what to do07:01
gnomefreakill do that tomorrow maybe. i have to look at gutsy to better give you a list07:01
gnomefreakk07:01
asacyou wanna do that? ... otherwise, just go ahead and build other apps07:01
gnomefreakim still building them as is to get it done07:01
asacyes... please don't build extensions07:02
asacmakes not much sense07:02
gnomefreakthey dont take long at all to build thats one of the reasons i think it would be better atleast for gutsy and newer to package them together if we can. build once upload once07:02
gnomefreakhave to07:02
asacwhy?07:03
gnomefreakpart of the rdepends07:03
asacyes ... but i say: it doesn't matter07:03
asaci don't think there are any "native" extensions07:03
asacthe others either work or don't07:03
asaca respin does not help a thing07:03
gnomefreakthan ill stop at as many as i have done already and go on to locales or the otehr 2 package si have07:04
asaclocales need an update07:04
asace.g. you need to import them from feisty07:04
gnomefreakthey will today07:04
asacprobably you should do the same for extensions07:04
asacnow that you say it :)07:04
gnomefreakill take the xpis from feisty put them inplace of dappers and spin07:05
asacgnomefreak: good: pull extensions and locales from feisty07:05
asacnothing else07:05
asac... or edgy07:05
asacyour choice07:05
asacxpis from feisty?07:05
asacjust get the package ... adjust version and spin07:05
asacthen done07:05
gnomefreakyes the locales are xpi arnt they?07:05
gnomefreakoh07:05
asacyes and no ... they are already packaged in feisty07:05
asacyou just need to grab them07:05
gnomefreakuse feistys package with different version07:06
asacyes07:06
asacmake it smaller than feisties version07:06
gnomefreakill look at them07:06
gnomefreaki have to make them smaller than edgys version too07:07
gnomefreaki use dappers version and just add the .ffox2.0mt1 to it?07:08
asacno .... add ~.ffox2.0mt107:09
asacto feisty version07:09
asac:-D07:09
gnomefreakoh ok :)07:10
asacgnomefreak: ~ is the magic trick that makes a version exactly smaller07:10
asacso use feisty and append with preceeding ~07:10
gnomefreakk07:10
gnomefreakand change control a bit to use the right versions of apps/libs and build07:11
asache?07:11
asacthere are not much build-depends07:11
asaci think you don't need to touch anything for extensions and locales07:12
asacif there is a native extension ... maybe you need07:12
asacbut i don't think there is any07:12
gnomefreaki havent looked yet waiting for uploads to finish before i open another term. or file viewer07:12
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gnomefreakasac: does mozilla-firefox-locale-tr-tr replace mozilla-firefox-locale-tr08:28
asactransitional package should be available if it does08:29
gnomefreak(Feisty)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~$ show mozilla-firefox-locale-tr08:29
gnomefreakW: Unable to locate package mozilla-firefox-locale-tr08:29
gnomefreakE: No packages found08:29
gnomefreakthe tr-tr is mozilla-firefox-locales-all in feisty08:30
asacgnomefreak: yes ... just use that package08:33
gnomefreakk08:42
gnomefreakfirefox08:55
gnomefreakReverse Depends:08:55
gnomefreak |openoffice.org08:55
gnomefreak |mozilla-checky08:55
gnomefreak  mozilla-bonobo08:55
gnomefreakthats all i got left ;)08:55
gnomefreakim uploading locales now08:56
gnomefreakhmmmm seems mozilla-checky isnt in feisty09:12
gnomefreakok everything is uploaded and built. now openoffice (start in next 30-60 minutes on it)10:00
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asacgnomefreak: well done10:23
gnomefreakty :)10:24
asacmozilla-bonobo?10:24
asacwhat did you do about that?10:24
gnomefreaki have about 3 hours on download for oo.o and than that will start10:24
gnomefreaki built it from dappers since the build-deps were not in dapper but were in feisty10:25
=== gnomefreak installing everything now to test what i didnt already have
asacsure ... build ooo from dapper ... as well as bonbo10:25
gnomefreakyep10:25
gnomefreakhas anyone made a post on the forums about the testing packages/repos10:38
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JenFraggle_hello, i'm new here11:07
Admiral_Chicagohey there11:11
Admiral_ChicagoJenFraggle_: i seem to know that name...firefox clue files+?11:11
JenFraggle_yes, working through the email11:11
Admiral_Chicagogreat!11:11
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Admiral_Chicagobrb, /me is blogging11:12
JenFraggle_ok11:12
Admiral_Chicagoback..11:19
JenFraggle_cool11:20
Admiral_Chicagodo you have the bazaar branch pulled?11:20
Admiral_Chicagoerr checked out that is11:20
JenFraggle_I've installed bughelper, is that the same thing?11:21
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JenFraggle_and bazaar11:23
Admiral_Chicagono.11:23
Admiral_Chicagowell yes and no.11:23
Admiral_Chicagobughelper is the tool that uses clue files11:24
Admiral_Chicagoclue files are under active development in a bazaar branch11:25
Admiral_Chicagobazaar is a tool that we use to share code and make changes in an intelligent manner11:25
Admiral_ChicagoJenFraggle_: bughelper will not run without clue files associated with the package11:27
JenFraggle_I'm just trying to find the webpage I used to do it and see what that says11:28
Admiral_Chicagoafai11:29
Admiral_Chicagoafaik*11:29
Admiral_ChicagoJenFraggle_: give me a second, i'll pull it up for you11:29
Admiral_Chicagohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/doc/writing-clue-files11:30
Admiral_Chicagolook down to sharing clue files11:30
Admiral_Chicagoand it'll be titled "get the latest copy of bughelper"11:30
JenFraggle_hmm, got an error message11:32
JenFraggle_it said permission denied11:32
JenFraggle_bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net; EOF during negotiation11:32
Admiral_ChicagoJenFraggle_: give me a link to your LP page11:33
Admiral_Chicagoyou may need to do ssh-keygen and make an ssh key11:33
JenFraggle_https://launchpad.net/~rj-ockwell11:33
Admiral_Chicagothen take ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and paste it as an sshkey11:33
Admiral_Chicagolook on your page for update SSH keys.11:35
Admiral_ChicagoJenFraggle_: do you have all that, or do you need help?11:35
JenFraggle_think I've done that now11:36
Admiral_Chicagobzr checkout sftp://rj-ockwell@bazaar.launchpad.net/~bugsquad/bughelper-data/main bughelper-data11:36
JenFraggle_It says SSH key added11:36
Admiral_Chicagothat'll be the full command if you think you have it11:36
Admiral_Chicagogreat11:36
JenFraggle_same message again, does it take time to be updated?11:37
Admiral_Chicagoyes i think so11:37
Admiral_Chicagoyou didn't do sudo ssh-keygen did you?11:38
JenFraggle_no, just ssh-keygen11:39
Admiral_Chicagogood11:39
JenFraggle_still isn't working11:39
Admiral_Chicagohmm, okay give me a second11:40
Admiral_Chicago16:40 < nixternal> I would give it 15 minutes...as it needs to propagate down to bazaar11:41
JenFraggle_ok11:41
Admiral_Chicagowhy don't you try it again11:45
Admiral_Chicagobtw, you may want to cd to a folder for development11:45
Admiral_Chicagosomething like "mkdir ~/Development/Bughelper && cd ~/Development/Bughelper"11:46
JenFraggle_still nothing11:48
JenFraggle_i'll try again tomorrow, it's nearly 11pm so I'm going to log off now11:53
JenFraggle_thanks for your help11:54
Admiral_Chicagonp11:56
Admiral_Chicagothanks for your interest11:56
Admiral_Chicagohavea good night.11:57
JenFraggle_and you11:57
asacgnomefreak: do packages like xubuntu-desktop really need a respin because ffox transition?12:11
asacidoubt they do12:11
asacif you are done building we should go through the package tomorrow and drop that are not necessary12:12
asacgnomefreak: cu tomorrow12:12
asacnight12:12
Admiral_Chicagoasac: sec...12:13
Admiral_Chicagowhat do you mean respin?12:13
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gnomefreakasac: xubuntu-desktop edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop all carry ffox so i figured they were needed. and you said do ALL :)12:16
gnomefreaknight asac12:16
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: build12:17
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: we backported ffox for dapper, however i think its gonna stay in our dapper repo for a long while12:17
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Admiral_Chicagowhich version12:18
Admiral_Chicago(s)12:18
gnomefreak2.0.0.312:19
gnomefreakas is atm12:20
gnomefreakthis may change depending when 2.0.0.4 is released or .5 since 1.5 branch is supported until august i think12:20
gnomefreakand there were some packages out of the 30 of them that i backported from feisty (most of the extensions and stuff12:21
gnomefreaktook me 16+ hours to get all packages built except for OO.o i havent started that yet. and he thinks that is gonna be ~24 hours12:22
Admiral_Chicagothats a rought time12:23
Admiral_Chicagoi'm glad Mozilla is going to start chosing a base to build packages on...12:23
gnomefreakwell we have a few things to change on how they are set up but seems ffox now has it good12:24

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