[02:14] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[02:14] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 23 May 16:00: Edubuntu | 24 May 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 25 May 08:00: MOTU | 27 May 10:00: LoCo Team | 29 May 11:00: Kernel Team | 29 May 17:00: Community Council
[02:33] <gnomefreak> im gonna let this run over night and see if i get the beep again it hasnt beeped since i loged in 15-25 minutes ago.
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> seems as if my router is now online...should be able to *stay* online too after all my stuggling with it
[09:37] <gnomefreak> congrats :) sorry to hear about your router issues
[09:46] <gnomefreak> asac: if your up, did you find anyone to build OO.o?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ok got to stop uploading for now.
[11:52] <asac> ola
[11:52] <asac> gnomefreak: anything urgent
[11:52] <asac> ?
[11:53] <asac> like ... everything crashes in dapper repo :)
[11:53] <asac> or even worse ... in gutsy
[11:53] <gnomefreak> nope just building my ass off
[11:53] <gnomefreak> just wanted to know if you found someone for OO.o
[11:53] <gnomefreak> oh and do i build the alternates? the ones that start with a | in rdepends
[12:00] <asac> gnomefreak: we had a netsplit
[12:00] <asac> if you didn't realize
[12:00] <asac> gnomefreak: you there?
[12:01] <asac> if you hear me: we should rebuild everything that has build-depends on firefox-dev libnss3-dev and libnspr4-dev
[12:01] <asac> for packages that just have depends on firefox (but no build-depends on firefox-dev or that alike) we should test them thoroughly
[12:01] <gnomefreak> yep here
[12:01] <asac> and maybe look at code to verify that things are ok
[12:01] <asac> (dunno if any such package exists actually)
[12:02] <asac> gnomefreak: for locale packages we should add the ones from feisty
[12:02] <asac> e.g. replace the current ones with what we have in feisty
[12:02] <asac> but exclude locales that have not been previously been in dapper
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ok
[12:02] <asac> if you come to those (which are really important) :) ... let me know
[12:02] <gnomefreak> k just take dappers locales from feisty and build
[12:02] <asac> how far did you get so far?
[12:03] <asac> what applications are there?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> i rocking
[12:03] <gnomefreak> 60+
[12:03] <asac> gnomefreak: yes ... please make the version of the locale packages smaller then the ones in feisty
[12:03] <gnomefreak> well change that
[12:03] <asac> so people will still get an upgrade
[12:03] <asac> 60+ ?
[12:03] <asac> apps?
[12:03] <asac> do you have a list?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> im done with all of libnss libnspr
[12:04] <asac> are they all online already
[12:04] <asac> ?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> yeah if you give me a few minutes ill type them up
[12:04] <gnomefreak> yes online ready to use
[12:04] <asac> no ... i will just look in repo then
[12:04] <asac> you have url?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> yeah one sec
[12:04] <asac> at hand ;)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/dapper/main/
[12:05] <gnomefreak> im uploading gnome-app-install and flash atm
[12:06] <asac> you rock :)
[12:06] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:06] <asac> sources all up as well?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i had very bad day yesterday so im trying to make up for it :)
[12:07] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i have maybe 12 more to build total. i have a list of what is left so i dont have to check rdepends all the time
[12:14] <asac> fine
[12:14] <asac> when you are done i will respin everything :)
[12:17] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:17] <gnomefreak> thats alot of work btw ;
[12:17] <gnomefreak> )
[12:19] <asac> i hope i find a way to auto-respin
[12:23] <gnomefreak> ok taking a break now
[12:30] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[12:31] <gnomefreak> asac: you know anything about gecko-sharp?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> last changelog entry is gecko-sharp (0.6-3ubuntu3) breezy; urgency=low
[12:37] <asac> dunno ... probably a c-sharp binding to gecko mozembed
[12:37] <asac> needs a rebuild I guess
[12:38] <asac> and some testcase to verify that it actually works
[12:38] <asac> are there examples in that package?
[12:38] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^^ ?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> it is and it does
[12:38] <gnomefreak> it was autosynced
[12:39] <gnomefreak> thats why no changelog for dapper
[12:39] <asac> sure
[12:39] <asac> so does it build?
[12:39] <asac> are there examples you can test?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> not sure yet but everything looks good so far
[12:39] <gnomefreak> examples?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> im grabbing build-deps atm for it
[12:44] <SmokeyD> hey people, just for fun I tried to apt-get -b source thunderbird from the preview archive on amd64. I get the known bug that in order to build thunderbird I need libnspr4-dev which conflicts with libnspr4 (provided by firefox). So I can't install libnspr4-dev and therefore not compile thunderbird without unintalling firefox and most gnome packages
[12:44] <SmokeyD> the libnspr4-dev conflict is a known bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner/+bug/57161
[12:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 57161 in xulrunner "Impossible to install libsmjs-dev with firefox present" [High,Confirmed] 
[12:45] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: its not built using xulrunner yet
[12:45] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: you need the -dev packages to build anything. after its built install the other ones back
[12:45] <SmokeyD> ok, yeah that is a solution
[12:45] <gnomefreak> there is nothing we can do with that yet
[12:45] <SmokeyD> not the best one but it will work :)
[12:47] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: that is why we built it for you
[12:47] <SmokeyD> :) yeah I know
[12:47] <gnomefreak> so we are the only ones that have to deal with that atm
[12:47] <SmokeyD> I just like playing around
[12:47] <SmokeyD> :)
[12:47] <SmokeyD> But that is my problem, I know
[12:48] <SmokeyD> once I have something in my head, I won't stop till I have it ;)
[12:51] <asac> SmokeyD: thunderbird is not up to date for amd64 i guess
[12:51] <asac> i wanted to build it today :)
[12:51] <SmokeyD> :)
[12:51] <asac> e.g. that is if you are on feisty
[12:51] <SmokeyD> yep
[12:53] <gnomefreak> asac: in case i forgot trunk fails to build. last one that built was 20070430 (incase you find time)
[12:56] <asac> good ... do we have trunk in gutsy as well? or just in feisty for now?
[12:56] <asac> gnomefreak: not so good of course ... but thanks for the reminder :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> only feisty
[12:58] <gnomefreak> once we find out what is wrong (something with gfx(or whatever its called)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> i can make a gutsy repo and send it there for you to build or figure that out when we get there. my most important thing is trying to finish this backports stuff. i was reversed i had finished 12 not 12 left. wont know how many left until i figure out what builds what
[01:09] <asac> gnomefreak: ok ... gutsy trunk build can wait
[01:09] <asac> i will prepare a -preview package with latest 3.0 alpha release as soon as alpha5 is out
[01:11] <gnomefreak> k
[01:24] <gnomefreak> asac: your not using dapper repo yet right?
[01:25] <asac> i have no x86 :)
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[02:19] <gnomefreak> lots and lots of building ;)
[02:22] <asac> right ... thats the way it should be
[02:22] <asac> no ooo volunteer yes
[02:22] <gnomefreak> kind of fun
[02:47] <gnomefreak> when i finish if we still dont have a volunteer ill do it but it will just take time (if it really is that big)
[02:53] <asac> if you have done everything else ... give it a spin
[02:53] <asac> and lets pray :)
[02:54] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe you can try to catch volunteers? maybe you have more luck :)
[02:54] <gnomefreak> ill try sometime today
[02:55] <asac> :)
[03:27] <SmokeyD> hey guys. I succeeded in compiling TB2 on amd64 in feisty
[03:27] <SmokeyD> :)
[03:29] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: if it was broke we wouldnt have uploaded it ;)
[03:29] <SmokeyD> :)
[03:30] <SmokeyD> that's true. :D I'm just glad it worked
[03:30] <gnomefreak> is that your first one?
[03:30] <SmokeyD> well, not mu first compiled program, but the first one with such a devel status and from apt source files
[03:31] <SmokeyD> I did ./configure make make-install tons of times
[03:31] <gnomefreak> ah ok congrats than
[03:31] <SmokeyD> :)
[03:33] <gnomefreak> anyone in here feeling brave?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> vlc was a big one but i think that is about it for the long builds, maybe locales
[03:48] <gnomefreak> caller ID applet for ubuntu would really really come in handy today
[04:23] <gnomefreak> java sucks
[04:27] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[04:27] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 23 May 16:00: Edubuntu | 24 May 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 25 May 08:00: MOTU | 27 May 10:00: LoCo Team | 29 May 11:00: Kernel Team | 29 May 17:00: Community Council
[04:30] <gnomefreak> running last build for a a few hours to get caught up
[04:53] <SmokeyD> hey people, when releasing TB2 for amd64, is it possible to also add the lightning extension?
[04:54] <SmokeyD> it is only available for Linux x86 not amd64
[05:23] <asac> SmokeyD: i am working on lightning
[05:23] <asac> is a bit tricky to do it right
[05:23] <asac> the way upstream builds it is just a mess
[05:23] <asac> and should only be a last resort in case we cannot make it better
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> connection is fixed now...
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> great
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> time to get ready for me day...
[06:47] <gnomefreak> ok im back working
[06:47] <gnomefreak> we really need one package that builds all firefox extenstions :(
[06:48] <gnomefreak> asac: is that feasible or way too much to do?
[06:55] <asac> you understood wrong
[06:55] <asac> we need to build lightning from sunbird sources
[06:58] <asac> not all extensions
[06:58] <gnomefreak> no i mean for what im working on
[06:59] <asac> what firefox extensions do you see?
[06:59] <gnomefreak> there are maybe 9 mozilla-* packages like mozilla-nukeimage mozilla-tabextenstion
[06:59] <asac> can you give me a complete list .... somewhere in wiki at best ... i can add comments then
[07:00] <asac> gnomefreak: if they are not arch dependent you should just try if they still work
[07:00] <asac> they might work
[07:00] <asac> if they don't then we need to upgrade them
[07:00] <asac> to new upstream
[07:01] <asac> gnomefreak: if you come up with a complete list, then i can comment on them ... e.g. what to do
[07:01] <gnomefreak> ill do that tomorrow maybe. i have to look at gutsy to better give you a list
[07:01] <gnomefreak> k
[07:01] <asac> you wanna do that? ... otherwise, just go ahead and build other apps
[07:01] <gnomefreak> im still building them as is to get it done
[07:02] <asac> yes... please don't build extensions
[07:02] <asac> makes not much sense
[07:02] <gnomefreak> they dont take long at all to build thats one of the reasons i think it would be better atleast for gutsy and newer to package them together if we can. build once upload once
[07:02] <gnomefreak> have to
[07:03] <asac> why?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> part of the rdepends
[07:03] <asac> yes ... but i say: it doesn't matter
[07:03] <asac> i don't think there are any "native" extensions
[07:03] <asac> the others either work or don't
[07:03] <asac> a respin does not help a thing
[07:04] <gnomefreak> than ill stop at as many as i have done already and go on to locales or the otehr 2 package si have
[07:04] <asac> locales need an update
[07:04] <asac> e.g. you need to import them from feisty
[07:04] <gnomefreak> they will today
[07:04] <asac> probably you should do the same for extensions
[07:04] <asac> now that you say it :)
[07:05] <gnomefreak> ill take the xpis from feisty put them inplace of dappers and spin
[07:05] <asac> gnomefreak: good: pull extensions and locales from feisty
[07:05] <asac> nothing else
[07:05] <asac> ... or edgy
[07:05] <asac> your choice
[07:05] <asac> xpis from feisty?
[07:05] <asac> just get the package ... adjust version and spin
[07:05] <asac> then done
[07:05] <gnomefreak> yes the locales are xpi arnt they?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> oh
[07:05] <asac> yes and no ... they are already packaged in feisty
[07:05] <asac> you just need to grab them
[07:06] <gnomefreak> use feistys package with different version
[07:06] <asac> yes
[07:06] <asac> make it smaller than feisties version
[07:06] <gnomefreak> ill look at them
[07:07] <gnomefreak> i have to make them smaller than edgys version too
[07:08] <gnomefreak> i use dappers version and just add the .ffox2.0mt1 to it?
[07:09] <asac> no .... add ~.ffox2.0mt1
[07:09] <asac> to feisty version
[07:09] <asac> :-D
[07:10] <gnomefreak> oh ok :)
[07:10] <asac> gnomefreak: ~ is the magic trick that makes a version exactly smaller
[07:10] <asac> so use feisty and append with preceeding ~
[07:10] <gnomefreak> k
[07:11] <gnomefreak> and change control a bit to use the right versions of apps/libs and build
[07:11] <asac> he?
[07:11] <asac> there are not much build-depends
[07:12] <asac> i think you don't need to touch anything for extensions and locales
[07:12] <asac> if there is a native extension ... maybe you need
[07:12] <asac> but i don't think there is any
[07:12] <gnomefreak> i havent looked yet waiting for uploads to finish before i open another term. or file viewer
[08:28] <gnomefreak> asac: does mozilla-firefox-locale-tr-tr replace mozilla-firefox-locale-tr
[08:29] <asac> transitional package should be available if it does
[08:29] <gnomefreak> (Feisty)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~$ show mozilla-firefox-locale-tr
[08:29] <gnomefreak> W: Unable to locate package mozilla-firefox-locale-tr
[08:29] <gnomefreak> E: No packages found
[08:30] <gnomefreak> the tr-tr is mozilla-firefox-locales-all in feisty
[08:33] <asac> gnomefreak: yes ... just use that package
[08:42] <gnomefreak> k
[08:55] <gnomefreak> firefox
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Reverse Depends:
[08:55] <gnomefreak>  |openoffice.org
[08:55] <gnomefreak>  |mozilla-checky
[08:55] <gnomefreak>   mozilla-bonobo
[08:55] <gnomefreak> thats all i got left ;)
[08:56] <gnomefreak> im uploading locales now
[09:12] <gnomefreak> hmmmm seems mozilla-checky isnt in feisty
[10:00] <gnomefreak> ok everything is uploaded and built. now openoffice (start in next 30-60 minutes on it)
[10:23] <asac> gnomefreak: well done
[10:24] <gnomefreak> ty :)
[10:24] <asac> mozilla-bonobo?
[10:24] <asac> what did you do about that?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> i have about 3 hours on download for oo.o and than that will start
[10:25] <gnomefreak> i built it from dappers since the build-deps were not in dapper but were in feisty
[10:25] <asac> sure ... build ooo from dapper ... as well as bonbo
[10:25] <gnomefreak> yep
[10:38] <gnomefreak> has anyone made a post on the forums about the testing packages/repos
[11:07] <JenFraggle_> hello, i'm new here
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: i seem to know that name...firefox clue files+?
[11:11] <JenFraggle_> yes, working through the email
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> great!
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> brb, /me is blogging
[11:12] <JenFraggle_> ok
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> back..
[11:20] <JenFraggle_> cool
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> do you have the bazaar branch pulled?
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> err checked out that is
[11:21] <JenFraggle_> I've installed bughelper, is that the same thing?
[11:23] <JenFraggle_> and bazaar
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> no.
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> well yes and no.
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> bughelper is the tool that uses clue files
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> clue files are under active development in a bazaar branch
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> bazaar is a tool that we use to share code and make changes in an intelligent manner
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: bughelper will not run without clue files associated with the package
[11:28] <JenFraggle_> I'm just trying to find the webpage I used to do it and see what that says
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> afai
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> afaik*
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: give me a second, i'll pull it up for you
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/doc/writing-clue-files
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> look down to sharing clue files
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> and it'll be titled "get the latest copy of bughelper"
[11:32] <JenFraggle_> hmm, got an error message
[11:32] <JenFraggle_> it said permission denied
[11:32] <JenFraggle_> bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net; EOF during negotiation
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: give me a link to your LP page
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> you may need to do ssh-keygen and make an ssh key
[11:33] <JenFraggle_> https://launchpad.net/~rj-ockwell
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> then take ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and paste it as an sshkey
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> look on your page for update SSH keys.
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: do you have all that, or do you need help?
[11:36] <JenFraggle_> think I've done that now
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> bzr checkout sftp://rj-ockwell@bazaar.launchpad.net/~bugsquad/bughelper-data/main bughelper-data
[11:36] <JenFraggle_> It says SSH key added
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> that'll be the full command if you think you have it
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> great
[11:37] <JenFraggle_> same message again, does it take time to be updated?
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> yes i think so
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> you didn't do sudo ssh-keygen did you?
[11:39] <JenFraggle_> no, just ssh-keygen
[11:39] <Admiral_Chicago> good
[11:39] <JenFraggle_> still isn't working
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, okay give me a second
[11:41] <Admiral_Chicago> 16:40 < nixternal> I would give it 15 minutes...as it needs to propagate down to bazaar
[11:41] <JenFraggle_> ok
[11:45] <Admiral_Chicago> why don't you try it again
[11:45] <Admiral_Chicago> btw, you may want to cd to a folder for development
[11:46] <Admiral_Chicago> something like "mkdir ~/Development/Bughelper && cd ~/Development/Bughelper"
[11:48] <JenFraggle_> still nothing
[11:53] <JenFraggle_> i'll try again tomorrow, it's nearly 11pm so I'm going to log off now
[11:54] <JenFraggle_> thanks for your help
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks for your interest
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> havea good night.
[11:57] <JenFraggle_> and you
[12:11] <asac> gnomefreak: do packages like xubuntu-desktop really need a respin because ffox transition?
[12:11] <asac> idoubt they do
[12:12] <asac> if you are done building we should go through the package tomorrow and drop that are not necessary
[12:12] <asac> gnomefreak: cu tomorrow
[12:12] <asac> night
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: sec...
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean respin?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> asac: xubuntu-desktop edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop all carry ffox so i figured they were needed. and you said do ALL :)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> night asac
[12:17] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: build
[12:17] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: we backported ffox for dapper, however i think its gonna stay in our dapper repo for a long while
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> which version
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> (s)
[12:19] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0.3
[12:20] <gnomefreak> as is atm
[12:20] <gnomefreak> this may change depending when 2.0.0.4 is released or .5 since 1.5 branch is supported until august i think
[12:21] <gnomefreak> and there were some packages out of the 30 of them that i backported from feisty (most of the extensions and stuff
[12:22] <gnomefreak> took me 16+ hours to get all packages built except for OO.o i havent started that yet. and he thinks that is gonna be ~24 hours
[12:23] <Admiral_Chicago> thats a rought time
[12:23] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm glad Mozilla is going to start chosing a base to build packages on...
[12:24] <gnomefreak> well we have a few things to change on how they are set up but seems ffox now has it good