[12:33] Cyberdance|away, that is usually caused by beryl or compiz [12:33] running [12:33] ... which i am running ... [12:34] Switch to metacity for the moment and it should perform as expected [12:34] I havent heard of any workarounds at all [12:34] similar issues happen with vlc [12:34] full screen [12:34] when beryl/compiz is running [12:35] that's it... so simple... [12:35] well i think i can live with that workaround [12:36] but how can i make the frontend hiding channels that are marked as invisible in mythweb? [12:37] i usually just delete the channels from the channel line up all together, but i'm not sure what you mean by "hide" [12:37] like parental control? [12:37] well, i've got hundrets of channels, most of them i do not need [12:38] mythtv offers an option [12:38] a field named "visible" for each channel [12:38] a checkbox, i unchecked it for the channels i do not want to see when switching through the channels [12:38] you might need to restart the master backend for that to take effect [12:39] hm, i'll try, one second... [12:39] (and of course the frontend too) [12:41] that's it again... well solutions are so simple... [12:41] :) [12:41] mythtv is really great... thx a lot! [12:41] np, enjoy [12:43] that's what i'm going to do right now... thx a lot, cu [12:44] Daviey, further thinking about making that metapackage [12:44] i think the idea can be taken a little further [12:44] mythbuntu-live and mythbuntu-desktop [12:45] mythbuntu-live would be depending on mythbuntu-desktop [12:45] and mythbuntu-desktop would have stuff like mythtv-common vlc xorg stuff gdm stuff [12:45] etc [12:45] mythbuntu-live would have mythbuntu desktop, ubiquity, and anything else used only during live mode [12:46] mythbuntu-live would depend on all plugins all backend frontend stuff too, since some of it would be removed at the end, but not all of it necessarily [12:47] but mythbuntu-desktop would be installed at the end still [12:47] Hang on.. let me read that again [12:47] k [12:48] hmm [12:48] Would mythbuntu-live need to be in universe aswell? [12:48] both would go into universe [12:48] (same source package) [12:49] and some of those configuration files would then be part of mythbuntu-desktop and some mythbuntu-live [12:49] Do any other packages in universe depend on ubiquity? [12:49] ubiquity-frontend-gtk and ubiquity-frontend-kde [12:49] - i'm having problems understanding why people would need that package outside mythbuntu install cd [12:50] well there is no reason that they would need to [12:50] but also there is no reason someone needs ubiquity outside of a live cd in the first place [12:50] Does it deserve to be in universe then? [12:51] well if we're going to stay true to our word and release changes back into ubuntu, yes [12:51] okay... so from my understanding both packages would be meta? [12:51] thats the way i'm thinking [12:52] and we would adjust the preseed [12:52] so that we seed into mythbuntu-desktop [12:52] and that will then better control what packages are there after the install is done [12:52] i'm still not 100 percent on the preseed business, but that will have to be the start [12:55] doing it this way will also take control of what packages are installed by default out of that script, so that we can manage it by this package instead [12:56] voyager.imbrandon.com <- what machine is that? [12:56] imbrandon's [12:56] :) [12:56] heh [12:56] Was going to set up email access on mythbuntu.org [12:56] but MX record says voyager is dealing with mail [12:56] so i can't do anything :( [12:57] i sent imbrandon an email about mail a week or two ago [12:57] maybe next month eh? [12:58] not to mention our mailing list, i really dont know what the hold up can be with that [12:58] do we need to become an official "recognized" team [12:58] or something? === Chir [n=Chir@c-24-11-25-78.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:35] Anyone have a second for a lirc question? === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:05] ello? === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883_@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:28] hi === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === spiderworm [n=spiderwo@blender/support/spiderworm] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:07] rogue780|mythsvr, your usplash was just uploaded to the archive [03:07] expect to see her show up in gutsy [03:20] is gutsy the next ubuntu release? [03:21] yes [03:21] ah, Im behind :-) [03:21] not on feisty yet? [03:22] no, still on edgy [03:22] it works as my primary work os so I'm scared to change lol [03:24] ah of course [03:24] plus I dread getting beryl working like I like it again... Really should change though. I hear the wireless support is much better? [03:25] wireless is better, beryl is easier to set up [03:25] codecs are easier [03:25] mythtv support is better [03:25] I wish I could use the ubuntu packages but I have to compile from svn..... many patches and such. [03:26] ah yes i forgot [03:26] :) [03:26] lol [03:26] how is that patch coming along? [03:26] did it help? [03:26] Ive been bitten by a bad bug in Myth today [03:27] I applied it to my brothers box, plan to test it online this weekend. [03:27] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting:Error_was_encountered_while_displaying_video [03:27] my bug [03:28] why is this happening to you? [03:28] well better yet [03:28] is it consistently happening [03:28] over and over [03:28] every time [03:28] wish I knew, it appears to be widespread amoung DVB users [03:28] hm [03:28] odd [03:28] want to see my log snippets? [03:29] http://pastebin.ca/503789 [03:29] is the file being made even? [03:30] no [03:31] so sounds like more of a sketchy signal issue then? [03:31] perhaps [03:31] I did see an error about the signal meter [03:33] And Im constantly getting these "2007-05-22 21:30:25.635 AutoExpire: ERROR when trying to autoexpire file: /store/mythtv/recordings/1301_20070512230054.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed. [03:33] 2007-05-22 21:30:25.636 AutoExpire: ERROR when trying to autoexpire file: /store/mythtv/recordings/1301_20070512230055.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed. [03:33] 2007-05-22 21:30:25.636 AutoExpire: ERROR when trying to autoexpire file: /store/mythtv/recordings/1301_20070512230056.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed. [03:33] " [03:34] sounds verbatim like your not getting locks on these channels [03:34] all signs of that [03:34] well, funny thing is, Im not watching tv right now.... [03:35] its sitting at the menu and nothings recording. [03:36] well it thinks those files exist [03:36] in the database [03:36] you will have to manually delete them from mysql or from the show recordings screen when the live tv filter is turned off [03:39] ah, it is the same file listed every time. I'll try deleteing from the frontend [03:42] finally deleted, I just did a touch on those filenames [03:45] that works too === defendguin [n=supertux@cpe-72-181-7-135.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Killerkiwi [n=jason@203.109.173.5] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:09] Im getting corrupt video if one show is immediately after another ie finish 7:30 start 7:30.. any ideas? [06:32] what does mythtv need to be able to play mp3? [06:32] when i scan for music i don't think it is picking up any of my music [06:39] i don't think it needs any gstreamer packages [06:54] nm i got it figured out === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f78c.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:15] heya gusy [10:15] guys [10:15] hey imbrandon [10:15] wasup superm1 [10:16] i was wondering if i could poke about this build process again? [10:16] err at least getting pegasus a machine account on your x86 buildd [10:16] ahh yea, i just upgraded the servers this last weekend so this weekend is the "software" side [10:16] yup [10:16] aurora is the x86 buildd [10:16] so will it just be a matter of you setting up an nfs mount to aurora's build space? [10:17] and then it watches a directory for dsc's and builds from those? [10:17] yup [10:17] where will the files end up when done? [10:17] and then spits them back to a diffrent dir [10:17] in another nfs dir? [10:17] ah [10:17] yup [10:17] will it send some other sort of notification too? [10:17] or just spit them there [10:17] if you want i can have it send mail to a list of people [10:18] well the big thing would be to let pegasus know to run falcon update [10:18] to update a repository with the new files [10:18] but i'm not sure how that sort of thing could be automated [10:18] other than a time delayed cron job [10:20] ahh === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:22] i'd imagine your buildd's q would grow too, so time delaying it might cause it to be missed out on still [10:23] true, yea i can work something up [10:23] shouldent be too hard [10:23] k [10:24] okay next thing i was going to ask about - mail addresses yet. the MX is set to voyager.imbrandon.com. is that your mail server that you generally use for these such sites? [10:26] yup [10:26] thats my mail server, i figured i could just put you on mine [10:26] so you wouldent have to run your own postfix [10:26] ah okay [10:26] can you get those accounts that i mentioned in a mail a week or two ago set up on there then? [10:27] yup i'll do that before the nights over [10:27] k cool cool [10:27] :) [10:28] notice i upgraded the server? thats my old main server, the one than handled ubuntustudio.org getting dugg without going down [10:28] so it should be solid [10:28] nice [10:28] yea daviey mentioned it was upgraded [10:28] i upgraded my main server to a core2duo [10:28] :) [10:28] i was out of town this weekend while it happened i guess :) [10:29] i can add more beef too as needed to that one [10:29] well if this handled ubuntustudio.org before, i think we'll be fine [10:29] also i have a few speed improvements for drupal [10:29] if you want [10:29] sure [10:29] i can do those later too [10:29] i was going to ask how did you get those url's print so nicely? [10:29] like /upgrading [10:29] or /screenshots [10:29] rather than node/X or node/Y [10:29] hehe when you edit a page, its an option almost at the bottom [10:30] its collapsed with as + [10:30] you have to expand it and rename the page [10:30] ah thats probably why i overlooked it [10:30] makes the site much cleaner [10:30] yea :) [10:31] ubuntuwire.com and ubuntustudio.org both run drupal, i learned a bit of tricks there ;) [10:31] ah i see [10:31] speaking of which: daviey said ubuntuwire.com's jabber was acting wonky [10:31] yea its fskin wildfire, i need to migrate it to ejabberd [10:31] but been lazy [10:31] i havent tried my account in a while [10:31] i have to restart it like once a day atm [10:31] kinda sucks [10:32] if you really wanto be lazy then, make a cron job to restart it once a day [10:32] thats why i turned off the signup page for the moment [10:32] but existing accounts work [10:32] hahah yea [10:34] wanna see something funny [10:34] i've been toying with [10:34] sure [10:34] k one sec [10:35] well i think we'll be looking at a public announcement of a beta for mythbuntu in the next few weeks here. i've got most of the work put into the ubiquity GUI that we were hoping for by first beta. just need the backend work finished on it (which is appearing to be a mess of debconf stuff). and everything else we had planned can wait for post-beta [10:35] http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/beta/ [10:35] cool beans, just let me know before hand so i can watch the server close incase it gets dugg too [10:35] :) [10:35] try that search out [10:36] i'm working on a custom ubuntu google search with the google api [10:36] what are you including in the pages? [10:36] ubuntuforums and h.u.c [10:36] and w.u.c and what else? [10:37] wiki planet ubuntuforums ubuntuguide [10:37] umm [10:37] i have a list somewhere [10:37] looks pretty useful from the results i'm getting here [10:37] good color scheme you got going there too [10:39] hehe [10:39] i'm gonna grab a domain for it [10:39] sometime [10:39] and announce it [10:39] or use ubuntuwire.com [10:39] dunno yet [10:39] is there a limit to how many searches you can do from google api though? [10:39] no [10:39] not anymore, used to be with the soap api [10:39] ah thats what i'm remembering then [10:40] but not with this one [10:40] i think that'd be a pretty sweet thing to have on ubuntuwire [10:40] :) [10:40] ubuntuwire could be a good gateway site then [10:40] yea thats what i was thinking [10:41] i think they dont limit the searches anymore is because they [10:42] put ad's in them now [10:42] its only on some of the searches i'm getting the ads though [10:42] yea [10:42] its been ages since i've seen google ads. i wonder why customizegoogle and adblock plus are catching these [10:42] *arent [10:43] i dont mind google ad's they help me pay for imbrandon.com :) [10:43] there you go [10:43] good pt [10:43] they still help even when people adblock them though too - ff still downloads the ad and you still get the credit [10:43] it just filters it before display [10:44] ahh cool [10:44] well you dont actualy get any money unless someone clicks on one [10:44] hehe [10:44] ohh [10:44] well then i guess it doesnt help then.... [10:45] oh man. its 3;45 i really need to get to bed. [10:45] heh ok, gnight [10:45] night~ [10:45] take it easy === MegaQuark [n=gary@pool-71-117-203-17.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === rogue780|mythsvr [n=rogue780@c-68-49-53-29.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === lengau [n=lengau@c-68-53-53-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === lengau [n=lengau@c-68-53-53-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Daviey [n=Daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Hugolp [n=jo@89.129.185.28] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === lengau [n=lengau@c-68-53-53-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f78c.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Daviey [n=Daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:46] keescook, you had mentioned that you might have some hardware that andrew and I will be able to use at ulive. Do you know what hardware? [05:46] oh! right, let me check on that, one second... [05:46] :), we're supposed to be getting our HD HomeRuns' that silicon dust sponsored us this week [05:46] oooh, very nice! [05:46] * UMPiloto has quit ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") [05:46] hm, my buddy will be out of town during the conference; perhaps I can put something together. what did you want to have handy? [05:46] well i have to discus with andrew yet, but the most ideal situation would be a system that we can just bring a hard drive over to and pop in i think [05:46] for presentation purposes [05:46] so as to not have to bring a whole system over [05:46] that's pretty tied to the tuner, etc, though, isn't it? [05:46] i mean if you just want to demo software, you could put it on a laptop. :) [05:46] howdy [05:46] keescook, you had mentioned that you might have some hardware that andrew and I will be able to use at ulive. Do you know what hardware? [05:46] oh! right, let me check on that, one second... [05:46] :), we're supposed to be getting our HD HomeRuns' that silicon dust sponsored us this week [05:46] rogue780|mythsvr: please stop doing that [05:46] oooh, very nice! [05:46] * UMPiloto has quit ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") [05:46] hm, my buddy will be out of town during the conference; perhaps I can put something together. what did you want to have handy? [05:46] well i have to discus with andrew yet, but the most ideal situation would be a system that we can just bring a hard drive over to and pop in i think [05:46] for presentation purposes [05:46] so as to not have to bring a whole system over [05:46] that's pretty tied to the tuner, etc, though, isn't it? [05:47] i mean if you just want to demo software, you could put it on a laptop. :) [05:47] howdy [05:47] keescook, you had mentioned that you might have some hardware that andrew and I will be able to use at ulive. Do you know what hardware? [05:47] oh! right, let me check on that, one second... [05:47] :), we're supposed to be getting our HD HomeRuns' that silicon dust sponsored us this week [05:47] oooh, very nice! [05:47] * UMPiloto has quit ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") [05:47] hm, my buddy will be out of town during the conference; perhaps I can put something together. what did you want to have handy? [05:47] well i have to discus with andrew yet, but the most ideal situation would be a system that we can just bring a hard drive over to and pop in i think [05:47] for presentation purposes [05:47] so as to not have to bring a whole system over [05:47] that's pretty tied to the tuner, etc, though, isn't it? [05:47] i mean if you just want to demo software, you could put it on a laptop. :) [05:47] howdy [05:47] keescook, you had mentioned that you might have some hardware that andrew and I will be able to use at ulive. Do you know what hardware? [05:47] oh! right, let me check on that, one second... [05:47] :), we're supposed to be getting our HD HomeRuns' that silicon dust sponsored us this week [05:47] oooh, very nice! [05:47] * UMPiloto has quit ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") [05:47] hm, my buddy will be out of town during the conference; perhaps I can put something together. what did you want to have handy? [05:47] well i have to discus with andrew yet, but the most ideal situation would be a system that we can just bring a hard drive over to and pop in i think [05:47] for presentation purposes [05:47] so as to not have to bring a whole system over [05:47] that's pretty tied to the tuner, etc, though, isn't it? [05:47] i mean if you just want to demo software, you could put it on a laptop. :) [05:48] howdy [05:48] keescook, you had mentioned that you might have some hardware that andrew and I will be able to use at ulive. Do you know what hardware? [05:48] oh! right, let me check on that, one second... [05:48] :), we're supposed to be getting our HD HomeRuns' that silicon dust sponsored us this week [05:48] oooh, very nice! [05:48] * UMPiloto has quit ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") [05:48] hm, my buddy will be out of town during the conference; perhaps I can put something together. what did you want to have handy? [05:48] well i have to discus with andrew yet, but the most ideal situation would be a system that we can just bring a hard drive over to and pop in i think [05:48] for presentation purposes [05:48] so as to not have to bring a whole system over [05:48] that's pretty tied to the tuner, etc, though, isn't it? [05:48] i mean if you just want to demo software, you could put it on a laptop. :) [05:48] howdy [05:48] keescook, you had mentioned that you might have some hardware that andrew and I will be able to use at ulive. Do you know what hardware? [05:48] oh! right, let me check on that, one second... [05:48] :), we're supposed to be getting our HD HomeRuns' that silicon dust sponsored us this week [05:48] oooh, very nice! [05:48] * UMPiloto has quit ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") [05:48] hm, my buddy will be out of town during the conference; perhaps I can put something together. what did you want to have handy? [05:48] well i have to discus with andrew yet, but the most ideal situation would be a system that we can just bring a hard drive over to and pop in i think [05:48] for presentation purposes [05:48] so as to not have to bring a whole system over [05:48] that's pretty tied to the tuner, etc, though, isn't it? === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:48] i mean if you just want to demo software, you could put it on a laptop. :) [05:48] howdy [05:49] keescook, you had mentioned that you might have some hardware that andrew and I will be able to use at ulive. Do you know what hardware? [05:49] oh! right, let me check on that, one second... [05:49] :), we're supposed to be getting our HD HomeRuns' that silicon dust sponsored us this week [05:49] oooh, very nice! [05:49] * UMPiloto has quit ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") [05:49] hm, my buddy will be out of town during the conference; perhaps I can put something together. what did you want to have handy? [05:49] well i have to discus with andrew yet, but the most ideal situation would be a system that we can just bring a hard drive over to and pop in i think === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:49] for presentation purposes [05:49] so as to not have to bring a whole system over [05:49] that's pretty tied to the tuner, etc, though, isn't it? [05:49] i mean if you just want to demo software, you could put it on a laptop. :) [05:49] howdy [05:49] keescook, you had mentioned that you might have some hardware that andrew and I will be able to use at ulive. Do you know what hardware? [05:49] oh! right, let me check on that, one second... [05:49] :), we're supposed to be getting our HD HomeRuns' that silicon dust sponsored us this week [05:49] oooh, very nice! [05:49] * UMPiloto has quit ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") [05:49] hm, my buddy will be out of town during the conference; perhaps I can put something together. what did you want to have handy? [05:49] well i have to discus with andrew yet, but the most ideal situation would be a system that we can just bring a hard drive over to and pop in i think [05:49] for presentation purposes [05:49] so as to not have to bring a whole system over === denny [n=denny@freenode/staff/denny] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:49] that's pretty tied to the tuner, etc, though, isn't it? [05:49] i mean if you just want to demo software, you could put it on a laptop. :) [05:49] howdy [05:49] keescook, you had mentioned that you might have some hardware that andrew and I will be able to use at ulive. Do you know what hardware? [05:50] oh! right, let me check on that, one second... [05:50] :), we're supposed to be getting our HD HomeRuns' that silicon dust sponsored us this week [05:50] oooh, very nice! [05:50] * UMPiloto has quit ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") [05:50] hm, my buddy will be out of town during the conference; perhaps I can put something together. what did you want to have handy? [05:50] well i have to discus with andrew yet, but the most ideal situation would be a system that we can just bring a hard drive over to and pop in i think [05:50] for presentation purposes [05:50] jono: ping [05:50] so as to not have to bring a whole system over [05:50] jono: ping [05:50] jono: ping [05:50] that's pretty tied to the tuner, etc, though, isn't it? [05:50] hey [05:50] i mean if you just want to demo software, you could put it on a laptop. :) [05:50] howdy [05:50] what is needed? [05:50] this guy seems to have pasted a weeks' logs [05:50] oh great, now he stops :) [05:50] i think rogue780|mythsvr has a paste problem ;) [05:50] heh [05:50] denny: no, it's the same thing over and over [05:50] jono, op me if you dare :) [05:51] ompaul: heh [05:51] ompaul: heya dude :) [05:51] yeap [05:51] jono: hi, by the way :) [05:51] denny: you freenode staff still ? [05:51] hey denny :) [05:51] yeah [05:51] denny, is [05:51] as am I [05:51] I was really bad in a previous life === animeloe [n=animeloe@ool-457adbec.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:51] denny: can I transfer this channel to the ubuntu ops team? [05:51] ;) [05:51] if their contact wants it, yeah [05:51] jono, say don't see why not [05:51] jono, hand it to seveas === SportChick [n=essy@freenode/staff/sportchick] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:52] denny: so do I just get their approval and you can do the rest? === ompaul goes to play fetch with the orange haired one [05:52] jono: yup [05:52] just get them to request it [05:52] denny: wicked [05:52] asked him to get here [05:52] will do [05:52] will drop him a mail now === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Ex-Chat"] [05:53] wow mail [05:53] what is that :-) time delayed irc [05:53] denny: do get him to ping you on IRC? [05:53] ompaul: he is at work isnt he? === animeloe [n=animeloe@ool-457adbec.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] [05:54] jono: actually you can set him as the contact yourself [05:54] /cs identify [05:54] /cs set #ubuntu-mythtv contact seveas [05:54] probably polite to ask him first though :) [05:54] jono he would be [05:55] doing it, nothing happening === denny wavicles [05:55] hrm [05:55] did you do the identify first? [05:55] and did it say 'you now have founder access' or something like that? [05:55] I am identified to nickserv [05:56] how do I identify to chanserv? [05:56] nothing [05:56] /cs identify #ubuntu-mythtv [05:56] nothing [05:56] do you have the /cs command? :) [05:56] try /msg chanserv [05:57] still nothing [05:57] oddness [05:57] clearly it hates you [05:57] in the face [05:57] seems so :P [05:57] rogue780|mythsvr: any chance of you saying 'sorry' by the way? [05:58] apparently you just flooded this place for quite a while... === denny wonders if that was a case of 'cat treads on right mouse button' [05:59] jono: are you in any channels that ChanServ is in? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:59] sometimes its output goes in weird directions [05:59] Seveas: hi [06:00] hi [06:00] ahhh [06:00] ompaul, sup? [06:00] yeah went to #lugradio [06:00] ok its set to seveasnow [06:00] Seveas, talk with jono he wants this place [06:00] to be yours [06:00] actually he just set it to be yours [06:00] merry christmas ;) [06:00] haha [06:00] heh [06:01] Seveas, seems I was a bit late [06:01] nobody else wants it? :) [06:01] Seveas, strongly suggest you set freenode/staff on it given what happened eariler [06:01] Seveas: all yours pal :) === denny recomands adding freenode staff to the access list, in case there are no ops the next time someone floods it to death [06:01] my job is done [06:01] later all [06:01] jono, I'll need the pass though, or I can't do anything :) [06:01] jono, that is what you think [06:01] /cs access #ubuntu-mythtv add *!*@freenode/staff/* 10 [06:01] I can't remember the password [06:01] Seveas: you're the contact, you can just do /cs identify #ubuntu-mythtv [06:02] denny: could you reset the password for me? [06:02] as long as you're id'd to nickserv, that will work [06:02] denny, I'd need a pass for that :) [06:02] ah! [06:02] is that new? [06:02] not that I'm aware of [06:02] more undocumented :) [06:02] heh [06:02] jono, no he can reset it for seveas :) === denny laughs [06:02] ompaul++ === ompaul puts a glass of sangria in front of jono [06:02] heh [06:03] right, have fun you crazy kids === denny runs away, nearly hometime === denny [n=denny@freenode/staff/denny] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["/part(y)"] [06:04] So, who's active in the mythtv team? [06:04] And in this channel? [06:04] Seveas, see the pm [06:05] Seveas, I'll sit on it while online for a week or so if you want [06:05] we'll catch them all then :) [06:06] that imbrandon fellow is here [06:06] he is everywhere :) [06:06] hehe === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o ompaul] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-mythtv:ompaul] : Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: mythtv on the wiki, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV :: Have a great day === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [-o ompaul] by ChanServ [06:08] that concludes my activity on that for a moment :) [06:09] rogue780|mythsvr, you have a pm === SportChick [n=essy@freenode/staff/sportchick] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === Hugolp [n=jo@89.129.185.28] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883_@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883 [n=thomas@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [i=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:29] We have a topic :) [07:29] Seveas, did you set it? [07:30] er it appears ompaul, I don't believe I know you? [07:30] hi superm1 [07:30] hi Seveas [07:30] superm1, I doubt it, I come from the other end of the universe :) [07:31] ompaul, is your last name Ford? [07:31] s/last/first/ [07:31] too warm here [07:32] Seveas, :-) only groked the joke now [07:32] heh :) [07:32] Seveas, you know it is not, you know I am the "o'malley" of strange stuff [07:32] superm1, are you active in the mythtv team? [07:32] yes Seveas [07:32] who else in here are? [07:33] gardengnome, Daviey DaveMorris keescook [07:33] well i guess some of them aren't here right now [07:33] and a few of the other guys in here help with support and such [07:33] ok, let's give a few of you some op powers [07:33] and imbrandon is helping us with a server atm [07:33] wonderful Seveas [07:33] thanks [07:34] I added you kees and daviey [07:34] should be enough :) [07:34] yes indeed [07:34] who is team leader? [07:34] Me :) [07:34] heh :) [07:34] then you should manage this channel, have fun with it ;) [07:35] great, I guess i'll have to figure out how to do so with xchat now... [07:35] google for chanserv.py -- it helps with op actions [07:35] k [07:35] superm1, at the moment you now have freenode/staff on the list of channel managers, this means freenode staff will help if no ops are around [07:35] or channel ops === ompaul is getting hot [07:36] Ok === Seveas starts throwing icecubes [07:36] there hasnt been a big need for ops in here for any troubles, so hopefully we won't have to bug you guys too much [07:36] superm1, if you are around later I can give you a walk though on what chanserv.py does when you flick its switches [07:36] yea that'd be good [07:36] superm1, if you need ops, you can find them in #ubuntu-ops :) [07:36] i'll be around most of today [07:37] superm1, and chanserv.py is easy to understand if you know a bit of python [07:37] Yea just seeing it right now. looking pretty straightforward [07:37] superm1, well I am off to actually try set up mythtv on a fiesty box afik and then do all the other stuff like move the guys backed up home dir in a sane fashion into his new fesity box [07:38] superm1, yeap [07:38] superm1, the best thing with someone who causes grief is a little poke, in the form of a /cs k $nick [07:38] they can come back after that if they still give grief you have two choices [07:38] mute them [07:38] ompaul, should be a pretty painless process with the latest feisty packages hopefully [07:38] /cs m nick [07:39] or /cs kb nick which is a remove and a ban [07:39] you can set the channel topic with [07:39] /cs t New Topic Here [07:39] is there a limit to topic lengths? [07:40] not really but if they get too long just put the text in the wiki and point at that [07:40] k [07:40] ubuntu channels tend to put the full text of the url in the channel no tinyurl.com stuff [07:41] well and those two urls you put up there are the ones that i would have put when setting the channel anyhow, so you thought ahead of me [07:41] you should invite chanserv to keep the channel open and thus keep the topic alive if all people get disconnected or some such === adilson [n=adilson@201.47.76.202.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:42] I'm assuming just /i chanserv ? === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [-o Seveas] by ChanServ [07:42] /cs i chanserv [07:42] ah k [07:43] only ops can invite :) [07:43] chanserv's not responding though [07:43] So when i use these commands, am I automatically given ops status and removed after the command is done? [07:43] yup [07:43] yes [07:43] Hi all. I'm just a happy MythTV user and want to ask if there is any imediate plans to update the Ubuntu packages as there's being some major changes like the mythweather plugin. [07:43] superm1, http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [07:43] the -n flag disables the deopping [07:43] adilson, I was just looking into mythweather solutions this morning actually [07:43] ompaul, do you know what's up with chanserv? [07:44] there is a patch on trac that i'm considering rather than switching to mythweather-revamp [07:44] no has he gone on holidays again? === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o ompaul] by ChanServ [07:44] heh, no. You don't invite chanserv [07:44] you set guard on [07:44] /doh [07:44] there is that === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [-o ompaul] by ChanServ [07:44] /cs set #ubuntu-mythtv guard on [07:44] What is guard on? [07:44] that is what you want to do to make chanserv sit here [07:44] superm1: I was thinking about doing it myself but I don't want to mess around on the machine I use for it. [07:45] guard is the chanserv setting that makes chanserv join your channel ;) === ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:45] there ya go [07:45] ah [07:45] superm1, now your topic is safe if everyone leaves the channel [07:45] superm1, you now see ubotu is here you have a very powerful and useful bot [07:45] adilson, do you know if that patch on trac is functional? it's about a month old and hasn't been committed to 0.20-fixes for some reason or another [07:46] !patience [07:46] The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped. Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [07:46] :) [07:46] superm1, doubt that will be needed but there ya go [07:46] @now dublin [07:46] Current time in Europe/Dublin: May 23 2007, 18:46:28 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 2 hours 13 minutes [07:46] Only thing i've been using ubotu for thus far was debian bugs, ubuntu bugs and gnome bugs [07:46] oh thats a neat one i didn't know ubotu could do [07:46] superm1, get your top ten current faqs [07:46] tell me and I'll add them to the bot [07:47] unless Mr S adds you to editors [07:47] we don't do every little thing but we do have [07:47] !mythtv [07:47] MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV [07:47] k, i'll have to think that one over [07:47] thats probably the number one big one [07:48] okay I better go and take care of this machine for my mate [07:48] good luck with it :). cu ompaul [07:48] so when I go away I mark myself away with /away message so I will be here but not so to speak [07:49] if you have any questions about doing stuff in channels or on freenode feel free to ask me [07:49] k [07:49] I know the ubuntu landscape fairly well [07:49] Seveas, Is it worthwhile for ubuntu-mythtv to stand up at the next CC meeting to be officially recognized by the CC? [07:50] superm1, that would be great === ompaul goes [07:50] superm1, you should come there as mythtv team, not as irc channel :) [07:50] hehe [07:52] well we've been trying to get canonical to make our mailing list, but its been in the queue for the last two months. I was thinking perhaps standing up and being recognized might prod a little more for it to get done [07:52] would help :) [07:57] keescook, I saw mythtvfs-fuse get uploaded to debian and ubuntu? Your wrote it? [07:57] and packaged it? [08:03] adilson, have you heard any success in #mythtv-users or on the mailing list with the trac patch that I mentioned? [08:03] or anything more about it? [08:03] or were you just thinking do mythweather-revamp instead? [08:03] superm1: No, I didn't but I donm't follow that IRC channel, just the ML. [08:04] ohok [08:05] well on my plate i've got some other ubiquity stuff to sort out yet the next few days, but i'll look into it after that. I'll plan to upload fixed packages to gutsy and then back port them to feisty [08:52] re [08:53] superm1: wrt the svn packages: i hope i can have them finished and tested by the weekend. RL is interfering a lot lately. [08:53] oh, i didn't know i was part of the mythtv team. [08:54] guess that forces me to hurry up with those packages :) [08:54] gardengnome, :) [08:54] what you think you just hang out here for fun? [08:54] kinda [08:54] ;) [08:55] gardengnome, are you building mythweather-revamp in the packages? [08:55] superm1: no, not yet. that's a smart idea, though. [08:55] or using patches to mythweather to resolve? [08:55] no, i haven't done anything to mythweather yet. [08:55] well as i was mentioning above, i'd more like to apply that patch from trac [08:55] (i need to get a working feisty VM or a replacement mainboard first) [08:55] rather than use -revamp [08:55] ah, k [08:56] the packages are mostly done. they can be installed, just a few patches need updating and some additional cosmetic issues AFAIK [08:56] (hopefully) that patch from trac applied cleanly to both svn and 0.20-fixes [08:56] I tried this morning, and saw several things i'll have to change to make it work though because it depends on you already having run qmake [08:57] ouch [08:57] ugly hack :( [08:57] probably why it hasn't been applied to 0.20-fixes yet [08:58] and has just been on trac for over a month === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:10] superm1: wrote it and packaged it yeah. [09:10] keescook, it looks really interesting. i'll have to play with it [09:11] keescook, are you going to be around tomorrow? I'm going to have a set of changes for mythtv / mythplugins hopefully ready tomorrow to go towards gutsy [09:11] it's really only useful if you want to browse your myth recordings outside of mythtv. [09:12] awsome. yup, I'll be here. :) [09:12] well I do do that when i'm archiving, because I do it outside of mytharchive lately [09:12] and i have a big messy symlink way of doing things [09:12] and a cron job to update all the symlinks every 5 min [09:12] cool. it needs improvement, but it does the job of making metadata visible on the filesystem. :) [09:13] well depending on where the improvement is needed yet, I might be able to help make a patch for it [09:13] what did you have in mind for it? === Daviey [n=Daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Daviey [n=Daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] [09:42] hi guys [09:42] What log file can I check to see why my apache2 server wont start? All I get is 'failed'. It worked up until yesterday.... [09:43] see in /var/log/apache2 [09:43] there should be several logs in there [09:44] shew, figured it out [09:44] libapache2-mod-php5 was missing for some reason... odd [09:44] nothing was being written to /var/log/apache2/error.log or access.log [09:45] . [09:45] well %&^%&^$* [09:45] no mythweb wont work [09:46] nm [09:57] got it? === Daviey [n=Daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:06] hey Daviey [10:06] hey [10:06] got my mail this morning? [10:06] we have a topic?! [10:06] yes sir [10:06] downloading the iso now [10:06] 56% done [10:06] some of the pages are a bit quirky, but you can get an idea of how things are looking now [10:07] with the artwork and the content [10:07] :) [10:07] like the assign a user page broke i noticed during my test install as well as a few others [10:07] and yes... we have a topic now === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o Daviey] by ChanServ [10:08] you and I both have channel ops === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [-o Daviey] by ChanServ [10:08] and keescook [10:08] trific [10:08] a lot happened since yesterday :) [10:09] anything important? [10:09] well all was in the email so [10:09] the topic of the email you sent me started to scare me :) [10:09] haha [10:10] You sent me that email at 3:50am your time?! [10:10] yea, well i was going to go to bed a lot earlire [10:10] but i was on a roll [10:10] I didn't read the attachment - readintg it now [10:10] and then i was about to go to bed again, and Laserjock asked me to do the behind the MOTU thing [10:10] and then i was going to go to bed again, and imbrandon showed up [10:12] and lastly, i was going to go to bed again and the ISO finished running through the install so I could see the broken stuff [10:12] and .... then i finally got to bed [10:14] heh [10:14] Did he get the mail sorted? [10:14] well i haven't spoken with him since last night [10:15] he said he was going to [10:15] that's why i jumped in here :) [10:15] That custom google search could be good [10:15] OT - [10:16] yea [10:17] 69% done on iso [10:18] i'm not sure how to keep it from installing language packs during install as of yet either [10:18] if you have web access it will try to download all these packs for languages that aren't installed for some reason [10:18] Hmm.. wish i understood how ubiquity works [10:19] well this has been a week or two in learning for me, and a lot of it is that i just grep around for where functions are called [10:19] and how things are assigned === adilson [n=adilson@201.47.76.202.adsl.gvt.net.br] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [10:20] you can do a debdiff of whats in bzr against the regular ubiquity dsc/tar.gz to see what i've had to change thus far [10:20] really its not too much, but working out the fine points around has been the trouble [10:23] like making sure that certain pages are reset depending on choices made at different pages [10:33] Daviey, would you be able to make the next CC meeting? [10:33] on the 29th? [10:33] hmm [10:34] do you know what time? [10:34] I spoke with major idiot over email and he said that he should hopefully be able to pop in for a bit. He's been plagued by lots of health issues lately and hence hasn't been around [10:34] 21:00 UTC [10:34] oooh a good time for me. 4pm [10:35] should be able to make it [10:36] then you think we should stand up? [10:36] Odd... isn't in my calender [10:36] Yes... i really should be able to make it [10:36] and with screenshots - we'll have a decent case [10:37] mind you - only two weeks between meetings [10:37] well the thing i'm wondering is how we should handle it - talk mythbuntu [10:37] talk about two seperate teams with both running, or just an ubuntu mythtv team [10:37] and explain that we have a split of interests on it [10:37] yes, i agree [10:38] with the latter? [10:38] about an ubuntu mythtv team containing split interests [10:38] split interest [10:38] Ok [10:39] i need to jump for 20 mins [10:39] k [10:44] keescook, would you be able to join at the CC meeting next week if we go to stand up? [10:58] superm1: absolutely. in fact, I'll already be there for someone else. :) [10:58] Daviey: oooh, I got channel ops? cool [10:58] keescook, me you and Daviey got it [10:59] keescook, I guess we'll have to scrub all of our wiki pages [10:59] and update and stuff before the meeting [10:59] heh === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o keescook] by ChanServ [11:00] rock! [11:01] imbrandon, prod [11:01] Seveas, he's not usually alive during the day time hours here it appers === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [-o keescook] by ChanServ [11:01] usually from 10P-5A or so i've seen him (Central time - GMT-6) [11:02] heh,true [11:02] Seveas, prod back [11:02] it's awake ! [11:02] i just happen to be awake :) [11:02] heya Seveas :) [11:02] heya keescook [11:02] imbrandon, falcon 2.0 is now able to scan & export my repo [11:02] hi imbrandon :) [11:02] Seveas, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [11:02] i love you [11:03] imbrandon, I still need to do some work on the web templating system, lots of work on the mirrors and write a new configuration backend [11:03] cool [11:03] doing the config backend now, it's a hadache :) [11:03] debuild -S -sa -us -c build code too ? :) [11:04] falcon-build is planned for beta 2 [11:04] s/-c/-uc/ [11:04] cool [11:04] but falcon is BLAZING FAST now :) [11:04] sweet [11:04] and far more extendable (it has a plugin system!) [11:04] i just picked up 2 new python books yesterday [11:04] :) [11:04] nice [11:06] Seveas, when can i start alpha testing ? [11:06] hehe [11:06] you gonna let me sponsor 2.0 in gutsy ? [11:07] after config + html is done you can alpha test if you don't have mirrors [11:07] kk [11:07] seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/falcon2/ [11:07] yea i can run it right on the server if it works in feisty [11:07] nowhere near done as you can see [11:07] and it runs on feisty ;) [11:08] nice [11:12] hey imbrandon [11:12] did you happen to sort out the mail last night? [11:12] superm1, mostly , i'll shoot you an email with all the info here in a sefdc [11:12] sec* [11:12] k [11:14] Seveas, i have a little web project i'm gonna unlease in a few days too [11:14] that i think will be really nice [11:15] nice [11:15] have a peek ( very very raw atm ) http://beta.ubuntuwire.com/index.html?cx=015625750094112125028%3A7utzntxrw5m&cof=FORID%3A11&q=seveas&sa=Search [11:15] btw, look at http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/code/ [11:15] bzrwb! [11:15] bzrweb! [11:15] omfg no way [11:15] that sooooooooo rocks [11:16] indeed [11:16] 13 months ago: Initial checkin into bzr, falcon 0.10 is now a reality! [11:17] that long already :) [11:17] I started it in december 05 iirc [11:17] :) [11:18] Seveas, falcon is quite an amazing app. I look forward to seeing it show up on ubuntu mirrors in gutsy :) [11:26] imbrandon, you said aurora would be the server in charge of x86 builds right? It doesn't even appear to be up (or its filtering pings and such)? [11:31] its down for the second, new bigger hdd array going in it [11:32] superm1, ^ [11:32] brb food [11:32] imbrandon, ah [11:33] :) === daviey_ [n=Daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === daviey_ is now known as Daviey === majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:02] hey he's alive :) [12:02] hey majoridiot [12:02] hola! [12:03] what's this about a meeting? [12:03] well so on tuesday [12:03] at 4PM [12:03] is the CC meeting [12:04] we were looking to hopefully stand up and become officially recognized [12:04] so we will need to get all our wiki pages in order [12:04] are they out of order? [12:04] get screenshots all ready and be ready to talk about everything that we've worked with here as a team [12:04] support, documentation, packaging, ideas etc [12:04] wlel the h.u.c ones are great yet :) [12:05] the w.u.c ones that talk about our team need to be polished [12:05] h.u.c? [12:05] !mythtv > Daviey [12:05] thank you, daviey [12:05] :) [12:06] superm1 thanks for letting me know [12:06] haha [12:06] "superm1 wants you to know: MythTV is a...." O RLY [12:06] !mythtv [12:06] MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV [12:06] so the whole channel can see [12:07] superm1 has a new toy [12:07] haha [12:07] ompaul taught me that today [12:07] !ohmy [12:07] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [12:07] :) [12:08] so majoridiot [12:08] yes? [12:08] its at 4PM your time tuesday [12:08] in #ubuntu-meeting === majoridiot makes a note [12:09] what will you need from me for this? [12:09] well just be ready to speak to what you've done for the team, and if you have a few moments look over our pages on w.u.c [12:09] fix any typos and such [12:10] w.u.c.? [12:10] wiki.ubuntu.com [12:10] our MythTVTeam pages [12:10] that talk about the team [12:10] that haven't been updated in ages [12:10] ah [12:10] no... they haven't. [12:10] we started to a week or two ago during the mythbuntu discussions === majoridiot hasn't looked in ages [12:10] but didnt finish up [12:11] majoridiot, ubiquity is starting to come together too now, so eventually we'll need to be writing pages for it on h.u.c or possibly just on mythbuntu.org [12:11] whichever makes more sense to do [12:12] jared is sussing it ok, then? [12:12] well he got me some background info, and i've been chugging along with it the last week or so [12:12] the gui is all finished up for it [12:12] just need the backend items [12:12] :) [12:13] CC is 29th? [12:13] Yup [12:13] 21:00 utc [12:15] majoridiot, do you want an acct at mythbuntu.org for editing pages and writing pages and such? [12:16] yes [12:16] k ill set you up in a min [12:16] k [12:22] majoridiot, <-- as username? [12:23] yes [12:23] ty [12:23] majoridiot, you've got mail [12:24] not yet ;) [12:24] majoridiot, pm [12:25] bbl, dog walking [12:26] seems as though mythbuntu's mailing service is crawling eh? [12:26] i asked her for a pssword reset and didnt get my mail yet either