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PriceChildsomeone in #ubuntu mimicking chanserv's nick....?01:06
BurgundaviaPriceChild: ?01:09
PriceChildhe's changed again now01:09
PriceChildwas chonserv and chensarv and things.01:09
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JucatoLjL: I wouldn't put the blame on hakaisou entirely, though01:18
LjLJucato: which is why, while after seeing the "you dick" part i got +o and was going to kick, eventually, i -o'd and just called ubotu... :)01:19
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Jucato:)01:20
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DabianOK ... just for the record, I think you should ban those join/part trolls.02:35
DabianI don't know if they do it on purpose .. but it sure seems that way02:35
crdlbever had wifi?02:36
LjLi couldn't say. maybe some of them, or many even, do it on purpose02:36
DabianIf its not on purpose, they seriously need to reconsider their IRC-habits.02:36
LjLIRC habits?02:36
Dabianyeah02:36
LjLthere's people coming to #ubuntu who've never used IRC before and are just trying to get support02:36
Dabianjoin irc ... wait 2 min.   quit irc02:36
LjLif they manage to kill their X or their connection or whatever twice in the meanwhile, i'm certainly not banning them for that02:37
Hobbseebecause they expect their answer right now.02:37
Dabianrepeat until dabian upset, then continue.02:37
Hobbseeyou can turn off join/parts in your client02:37
DabianLjL: I am not talking about those that do it once ..but if they keep doing it.02:37
DabianHobbsee: I don't wish to do that.02:37
Hobbseewell, dunno about yours, per se.  most of htem02:37
DabianHobbsee: I can also ignore regular trolls, but I prefer those to be kicked as well.02:38
LjLDabian: if they keep doing it it still might be their connection failing spottily. it might be a hundred things. there's way worse things happening on #ubuntu seriously02:38
LjLDabian: we already have02:39
LjL!away02:39
ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines and !nickspam02:39
LjL!nickspam02:39
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently02:39
LjLand, guess what, a LOT of people, when told this, start calling us crazy and whatnot02:40
DabianLjL: academo did this 4 times, and I don't think he had any reason to join #Ubuntu; he didn't say anything.02:40
LjLdifferent channels have different standards. we try to keep a decent compromise between what's tolerated and what gets you banned, given a channel with more than 1000 people on it02:40
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LjLthat's quite possible as #ubuntu is joined automatically by default, with the clients that come with Ubuntu02:41
LjLat least some of them02:41
DabianReally?02:41
DabianPrehaps that is the problem?02:41
LjLperhaps. perhaps it's also not a "problem".02:42
DabianI would ban anyone who had the pattern of academo unless he was a known contributor.02:42
DabianYou don't have to make the ban permanent, just ban him for a month or even a week.02:42
Dabianmaybe just a day.02:42
LjLoh yes, a month for rejoining...02:42
DabianBut make it automated I advise.. that way it will be fair.02:43
DabianLjL: In my book its called "joinflood".02:43
LjLlet's check again - what disturbance did academo create compared to the offtopic discussion we had? counting by mere number-of-lines. (not blaming you, i kept it on as well, just saying).02:43
DabianMaybe all ops are ignoring join/part02:43
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LjLthis is joinflood02:44
DabianLjL: This discussion was prompted by the joinflood.02:44
DabianLjL: What you did, wasn't very different from what academo did02:44
LjLno, the timeframe was kind of different.02:44
Dabian(Not trying to nail academo btw.  he is just an exaple)02:44
Dabianexample.02:44
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DabianLjL: Yeah .. your wavelength was different .. otherwise it was the same as academo :)02:45
LjLwell, repeating a question every 10 minutes is in that respect the same as repeating it every 10 seconds02:46
LjLyet, the latter gets kicked, the former does not02:46
DabianTrue02:46
DabianHe didn't wait 10 min. before next cycle though.02:46
DabianWell, I guess I made my point ...02:47
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DabianJust annoying for a foreigner that has trouble reading english already to get spammed with join/parts from the same handful of persons. :)02:48
TheSheepDabian: just add ignores02:48
DabianTheSheep: Thank you for the advise ... I try not to use the ignore feature unless I feel forced to it though.02:49
Seeker`Dabian: If they are looking for support, someone who has trouble reading english could also ask in their loco group02:49
TheSheepDabian: consider yourself forced02:49
DabianSeeker`: Right .. try and find someone who speaks danish and is able to answer my questions - oh .. and is online.02:50
Seeker`Timezones suck.02:50
DabianSeeker`: Thank you for the advise though. :)02:51
Seeker`Speaking of which, it is almost 2am and I should be in bed.02:51
Seeker`night02:51
Dabian2:51am here :)02:51
DabianNight Seeker`:)02:51
LjLDabian: camouflage your danish as swedish and join #ubuntu-se, that one's populated :P02:52
DabianLjL: lol :)02:52
DabianI don't really understand swedish well. :)02:52
Dabiangerman might be good02:53
Dabianbut not as good as english though.02:53
Dabianagain .. thanks for the advise02:53
DabianI guess you already considered banning these flooders, and chose against it for whatever reasons you may have had.02:53
DabianJust one question more .. I know #ubuntu is logged .. is it possible to access this log online?  It would amuse me to analyse the log to get an idea how bad the problem is .. and how many "join/part trolls" are really bad.02:55
crdlb!log02:57
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs02:57
LjLDabian, there are statistics somewhere too02:57
Dabianoh .. thats nice02:57
LjLthey won't include the one thing you're looking for though i suppose02:57
Dabianahh02:57
LjLshould be at  http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org , seems down for me right now though02:58
DabianThe logs are filtered for parts?03:02
LjLDabian: anyway i agree in principle that gratuitous joining and parting is bad, but 1) spotting it manually isn't easy, i see so many joins and parts that i wouldn't even have noticed that guy you talked about at all  2) doing automatically would be very bad, as this is not just like, say, an auto-kick on excessive flooding (which we don't have, anyway)03:02
LjLperhaps a script that could spot these patterns and just inform me, and then i talk to the guy involved. perhaps. still, i'd have to write it ;)03:02
LjLi don't remember, quite a few things are filtered indeed though03:03
DabianIf the kick/ban message informed the user on the reason of the sanction, I guess its preventive in itself.03:03
DabianI looked on the log for 22nth.  Manually it seems that ZenDJiNN was the "worst" that day.03:03
DabianHe joined 7 times, without saying a word.03:04
DabianUnfortunately, the joins are not logged with a time stamp.03:05
Dabian04:49-05:13 he joined 3 times though03:05
DabianThat would be 6 lines of j/p info.03:06
DabianNot all parts are filtered btw.03:06
DabianSo I wonder if some joins are filtered?03:06
LjLwould be weird03:07
LjLperhaps nick changes are filtered?03:07
DabianThat might be03:07
DabianI don't have a single part for ZenDJiNN though.03:08
DabianOf cause he might change nick as the first thing.03:08
Dabiannot all nick changes are filtered03:08
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DabianThen agian .. that could be a "/me".03:09
LjLDabian: maybe quits are shown but parts are not, or vice versa03:10
Dabianseems parts are shown, but not quits.03:10
DabianWhy is it filtered anyhow?03:11
LjLno idea honestly03:11
LjLi guess the IP addresses are filtered for privacy reasons03:12
DabianThey're not filtered, though. ;)03:12
LjLoh :)03:12
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LjLwell then i suppose the logging program is just dodgy :P03:12
DabianSince there is no timestamp, and the channel is idle chat-wise several times a day .. I guess its hard to make anything useful from these logs.03:13
Dabian9:41-12:32 ... I wonder if the channel really was idle here .. or if the log-bot was simply sleeping/offline.03:15
Dabiansame with 03:19-05:2703:16
LjLi saw the bot going offline a couple of times in the past two days or so03:17
Dabian*nod*03:17
Hobbseefabionne's had trouble with his connection03:19
Dabiangalternatives is great btw.  :)03:20
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DabianHobbsee: I guess LjL is right .. it would be fair to analyse the situation manually, and then possibly have a chat with offenders.  On the other hand, that would require a lot of work.  In the end, I guess people are responsible for managing their own connection, and contacting their ISP if there is problems.03:22
Hobbseethis is true03:24
Hobbseeand there's not a large number of ops either03:25
Hobbseeand they tend to have better things to do03:25
DabianI take it all that have voice here are ops?03:25
LjLthat's correct03:25
DabianOn another channel I am on, we have about 97 ops ... but only a few is active.  I guess the same is the case here?03:26
LjLway fewer ops in #ubuntu, active or not03:27
Dabianwell .. active ops on the other channel is less than 1003:27
Dabianmaybe less than 5.03:27
DabianIts an old channel .. maybe founded in '96.03:28
effie_jayxDabian, ops here are wise :D03:28
DabianMany of the ops don't IRC03:28
Dabianeffie_jayx: Thats nice.03:29
HobbseeDabian: sure, i have ops on stacks of the channels.  but i'm also a dev, so i'm working on that, and only attending to ops when needed03:29
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effie_jayxHobbsee,  and you give doom :D03:29
DabianHobbsee: Right.03:29
LjLHobbsee: or when feeling pointysticky :P03:30
effie_jayxLjL,  righto...03:30
DabianHobbsee: Which reminds me that I should go back to developing my little program.03:30
LjLlet me guess - a log analyzer? :P03:30
Dabianheh no03:31
DabianIts a specialised browser.03:31
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: and lots of doom.03:32
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: you shoul dhave come to UDS.03:32
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DabianLjL: A program to login to a website with cookies and gather some information etc.03:33
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I didn't get to... maybe next month03:33
effie_jayxnext one03:33
Hobbseeawww03:33
DabianLjL: Nah .. I give up on the log thing.  But thanks for the updatealternatives. :)03:33
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effie_jayxHobbsee,  you are a KDE developer03:34
LjLwhich means she's attacking me with her long pointy stick of doom even when she isn't even on irc, or awake for that matter03:35
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: kubuntu, yes.03:35
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: and motu03:35
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: but i'm not employed by canonical, and they dont tend to sponsor twice in a row03:35
Dabiansponsor?03:36
Hobbseesend people to UDS and pay for it03:36
DabianUDS?03:36
Hobbseeubuntu developers summit03:37
LjLubuntu?03:37
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Dabianhehe03:37
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LjLgah, i was *almost* going to get +o in time03:37
DabianI still don't know what ubuntu developers summit is .. but I guess its something I could find on some website if I cared to read a lot of text. :)03:38
Hobbseelikely, yes.03:38
Hobbseew.u.c/UDS-Sevilla, i believe03:39
LjLthey give them free wifi in order for them to tell one another jokes about what people say on irc03:39
LjLbasically03:39
DabianYou have to travel somewhere to work for canoical for a period and then they'll throw money at you?03:39
Hobbseehehe03:39
Hobbseeand use cowsay03:39
Hobbseenot really03:40
Dabianapt-get -cow03:40
Hobbsee __________________________________03:40
Hobbsee< Dabian should learn about cowsay >03:40
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LjLbesides, it's apt-get moo03:40
DabianThis lousy client uses proportional font03:40
DabianI need to fix that.03:41
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DabianWell .. lousy is a harsh word .. but its inapropiate to use proportional font for IRC ... that way you miss 62% of Hobbsee's posts. :)03:42
Hobbseehaha03:42
LjLwell, true, i did miss that03:43
LjLsomehow i think i can read the first three letters though03:43
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LjLi have an idea03:44
LjLnext time we have a clonebot attack03:44
LjLwe could ban in ascii art03:44
LjL50 bots, 50 lines of ascii03:44
DabianIs ascii art allowed in #Ubuntu?03:45
LjLnot quite03:45
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Hobbseenope03:45
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Dabianhehe .. I get your point now though.03:45
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Hobbseewhat was that?03:45
DabianYou mean to kick in ascii art :)03:46
LjL[03:45:44]  *** You have kicked Hobbsee from the channel (It's not like it's allowed here for that matter).03:46
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Hobbsee _______________________________________03:46
Hobbsee< yes it is. it was at the ops meeting. >03:46
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Hobbsee!opabuse03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opabuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
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Dabiangreat ... it seems I cannot change the font03:46
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Dabian!opsabuse03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opsabuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
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Hobbseemorning nalioth03:48
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Hobbseepft03:48
DabianI can compile .. but I cannot figure out how to run.  I guess its bedtime for me. :)03:49
Dabian(again)03:49
naliothhowdy y'all03:50
Hobbsee[11:50]  [Notice]  -SeenServ- I last saw Sarah (n=Pune@203.188.35.49) 2h 41m 22s ago, quiting: D-lined03:50
Hobbseepity, i was hoping that nick was inactive :P03:51
DabianYou do not like your nick?03:51
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effie_jayxHobbsee,  sorry for the delay... elkbuntu  went twise ;)03:53
DabianHobbsee: Is this your pic? http://tinyurl.com/3b7z2p03:54
Dabian(From google images)03:54
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HobbseeDabian: of course!03:55
Hobbseebecaues if it's on google, it must be true!03:55
elkbuntueffie_jayx, :)03:55
Dabian(Here is the whole page: http://tinyurl.com/2shkvw03:55
DabianIf you don't trust tiny url you can use: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2shkvw03:56
DabianTHats supposed to show you which url it is first.03:56
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Dabiananyway .. I was heading for bed, I guess.03:57
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effie_jayxhow does one unban oneself after a bot bans you :D05:23
Hobbseeoh?05:23
ubotuIn #kubuntu, KevinAlaska said: Ubotu, what is that last symbol at the end of that text?05:28
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effie_jayxHobbsee,  you see we have a bot that watches out for bad words and stuff... if you say the repetitively05:33
effie_jayxit bans you for 10 minutes05:33
Hobbseeahhh05:33
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HobbseeSportChick: poke06:47
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Seveas!staff07:00
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)07:00
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Hobbseeoh no, i'ts the mad dutchman, and his sidekick!07:04
Seveasheh07:04
SeveasI love you too :p07:04
Seveas(Or is such a joke also off-limits nowadays :p)07:05
Madpilotevening all07:05
Seveasevening?07:05
Seveasit's 7:05!07:05
SeveasI just woke up07:06
Madpilot2205 here07:06
Madpilotjust got back from work07:06
Seveasweird canadians, always lagging :P07:06
naliothSeveas: yes?07:06
Burgundaviahey Madpilot07:06
Seveasnalioth, hiya, can I bother you in pm?07:06
Madpilotevening Burgundavia07:06
naliothSeveas: any time07:06
Hobbseehi weaselboywhocanttellages07:10
HobbseeSeveas: glad to hear it :P07:11
BurgundaviaHobbsee: you should have been pleased...07:12
HobbseeBurgundavia: oh i was07:13
Hobbseebut i'll tease you about ti anyway07:13
tonyyarussohow far off was he?07:13
Hobbsee3-4 years07:13
tonyyarussonot bad07:13
SeveasHobbsee, so he guessed 10?07:14
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Hobbseeno love for you.07:15
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tonyyarusso27 +- 5 work?07:16
SeveasHobbsee, hey, at least nobody said "and guessed 3/4 years too high" ;)07:17
Hobbseehaha07:17
Hobbseetonyyarusso: heh07:17
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Seveas!ops07:33
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok07:33
ubotuSeveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops07:33
MadpilotMrh?07:33
Seveasif bob2 asks for access: do NOT give it. He's not the real bob2, but an impostor07:34
HobbseeSeveas: what?07:34
elkbuntuyessir?07:34
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Hobbseeahh07:34
Hobbseeoops, sorry07:34
Hobbseeright07:34
naliothlot of you may not remember bob207:34
Seveashe was around until early 200607:34
elkbuntuheh. may i assume this is part of the recent... controversy?07:34
MadpilotI think I do - from .au, active a year or so ago07:34
Seveaselkbuntu, no, this is just a rat07:34
elkbuntuyeah, never met him, but i heard good things about him.07:35
naliothelkbuntu: no07:35
elkbuntuthe real bob2 was bad?07:36
Burgundaviano, the real bob2 was amazing07:36
elkbuntuwhat happened? similar to whiprush's exodus?07:37
naliothelkbuntu: real life happened07:39
elkbuntudamn that real life07:40
Burgundaviaindeed07:40
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Hobbseespeaking of that, i shoudl really do some assignments...07:43
BurgundaviaSeveas: email sent07:44
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Hobbsee_nick Hobbsee08:12
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naliothdisregard the bob2 thing, i now have control of the nicks in question08:15
=== poningru irritates the mad dutchman somemore
Madpilotponingru, he's going to have to set his IRC client to ping on 'mad dutchman' now, otherwise he'll miss all the good stuff08:21
poningruindeed08:23
=== poningru lulz
poningruI dont know how you guys do this with a 9-5 job08:23
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naliothponingru: you drive a taxi, and have a 25/8 job08:24
poningru...08:24
maxamillionponingru: we drink lots of coffee08:24
poningruseriously though... come home from work at like 6, you read a bit of /. ,all your rss feeds etc. and bam time for bed already08:25
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poningruI need to start better managing my times08:26
Madpilotjust get less sleep08:27
naliothhi ompaul08:27
ompaulmorning08:28
poningru...08:30
poningruyou people are crazy08:30
poningruofcourse better coding skillz help too08:30
elkbuntuheh, i dont need to start better managing my time until i actually manage my time08:35
naliothelkbuntu: you started quite a thread today08:38
=== elkbuntu struts
elkbuntuYup!08:39
poningruque?08:39
naliothponingru: mailing list08:41
poningruoh? which one?08:42
Madpilotthe one one sounder?08:43
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ompaulMadpilot, you weasled your continual name calling with your brother into that blog post :P08:44
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elkbuntuMadpilot, and on my blog, and on nixternal's blog, and on the linux-aus list08:45
Madpilotompaul, of course. That was almost the entire point of that blogpost :)08:45
ompaulit was rather funny to hear you on the phone and then see his facial reaction to the news08:46
elkbuntui didnt hear Madpilot on the phone... :-/08:47
Madpilothmm? you mean the sip conf. line? I never did use it, so not sure who you heard on there...08:48
elkbuntui think it's because i fed the news through08:55
elkbuntuwe were talking to imbrandon in that session iirc08:58
elkbuntui cant remember who addressed corey either, was it jono or me?08:58
Madpilothehe09:01
elkbuntuits great he can cop such ribbings and not let them get him down though. he'd have been a wreck by the end of the week otherwise09:25
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ompaulohh09:39
ompaulI thought it was you - maybe imbrandon knew it too and said it and started to laugh09:40
elkbuntuwell i had announced it in the room, and he would have been listening at that point09:41
ompaulahh09:41
ompaulI walked in after that part of it09:41
ompaulI saw seveas addressing corey with it09:41
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elkbuntuhehe09:42
poningruI have no idea what you ugys are talking about09:47
poningruguys*09:47
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ompaulponingru, be happy09:48
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poningru:p09:49
ompaulit is very very silly09:49
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ompaulyeap09:50
Madpilotvery silly.09:51
ompaulMadpilot, you are missing a very in there09:51
Madpilotponingru, I let elkbuntu and a couple of other people know one of Burgundavia's nicknames, and they dropped it on him at UDS. I'm evil. But I have fun. :)09:51
poningrurofl09:52
Madpilotmy little brother probably thought he was a continent & a big ocean away from my evil influence at the time09:54
gnomefreakMadpilot: welcome to planet ;)10:04
Madpilotgnomefreak, thanks.10:04
gnomefreakyw10:04
Hobbseeprepare for much madness10:04
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Madpilotnot too much. I might tweak my blog to have a planet-only RSS feed, but currently everything is syndicated to p.u.c10:06
gnomefreakis there another good rss feed on ubuntu other than planet?10:08
gnomefreaklike a rss feed focused more on devel?10:09
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Hobbseegnomefreak: devel of what?10:11
gnomefreakHobbsee: im looking for rss' that focus on ubuntu (more so than linux.com or debian blogs10:11
Hobbseeahh10:12
gnomefreakatm the only one i have found is planet since it seems to be most used10:12
Hobbseeyes10:12
Hobbseethere's planets for toehr countries, but i think they're no better10:12
Madpilotthe UWN has an RSS feed10:12
gnomefreakthats an idea since i never see it ;)10:13
Madpilothttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/uwn/feed10:14
Madpilotdirect RSS link ^^10:14
gnomefreakyeah i got it ty10:16
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elkbuntuhmm.. did Lounge end up being banned the other night or not?11:56
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PriceChild:O there's a #ubuntu-men...12:20
Jenna_80sure there is12:20
ompaulor there is now?12:21
mc44people like to make a stand, even if it is silly12:21
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PriceChildHopefully this move towards "ubuntu for all" will help get rid of silly things like this12:22
ompaulPriceChild, okay lets have a new hirearchy for the ubuntu world12:22
PriceChildcan we have a code to the death on who gets to be top?12:22
ompaulPriceChild, nothing so radical12:23
PriceChildactually yeah I wouldn't get far...12:23
mc44lets have a pun to the death12:23
mc44all hail king ompaul12:23
PriceChildAnyway what were you saying ompaul? :)12:23
ompaul #ubuntu #ubuntu-tld-cc #ubuntu-irc-channels_managed_by_the_council12:24
ompaulso that makes locos good12:25
ompaulyou can't join the tld list unless you are on the loco list12:25
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PriceChildI'm confused.12:26
ompaulPriceChild, the idea was to mark the projects that had CC approval very easily and the rest could not join the trees until they were "approved"12:34
PriceChildahh ok12:34
ompaulso for instance #ubuntu-irc-meeting12:34
HobbseePriceChild: i thought that was a legit loco channel12:40
PriceChildHobbsee, what was?12:40
Hobbsee#ubuntu-men12:40
PriceChildloco channel for who?12:40
PriceChildi'm not saying it isn't legit.... anyone can make a channel if they follow guidelines etc.12:40
mc44for us poor opressed men, obviously :P12:41
Hobbseeheh12:42
Hobbseeyes you poor people12:42
ompaulmc44, you confuse your words, repressed is not opressed12:42
Hobbseei dont remember - but i think it is one12:42
mc44ompaul: arf :)12:43
Hobbseethen again, it does have ao...painful in there12:44
mc44yes. /me sighs12:44
PriceChild*groan* he's quoting freenode guidelines to me... :(01:01
mc44oh he has become well versed in them01:02
PriceChildI'm off to lecture01:02
elkbuntuHobbsee, dont worry about -men. it's a stupid idea that will never achieve anything except nicely kill the "why isnt there a.. ' attitude -women get01:07
Hobbseeah, fun01:08
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PriceChildhmm?03:07
Seeker`somerville32: You fear LongPointy Stick03:08
somerville32Of course.03:08
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Seveasapokryphos, ping06:35
apokryphosSeveas: hey06:36
Seveasapokryphos, pm06:36
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LjL!staff | unklined exploiter in #ubuntu, "ur_mum"10:21
ubotuunklined exploiter in #ubuntu, "ur_mum": Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)10:21
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LjLnalioth, is that you or just your client? i've put ur_mum in a limbo (i.e. +q), i think he needs a kline10:23
LjLnevermind :)10:24
PriceChildwow only 3 people were disconnected10:31
naliothPriceChild: this is why we do what we do10:35
PriceChildindeed :)10:35
LjLi think feisty helped too...10:36
nixternalyou think? :)10:37
nixternalI had just noticed working on konversation that it is set to 8001 finally10:37
LjLwell, konversation at least comes with 8001 as default in feisty10:37
LjLyeah10:37
nixternalI remember bringing that up last year and it got shot down10:37
LjLi'm not too sure about other clients though10:37
nixternalnalioth: you remember that? I went to the devs with it and they were like ummm..no10:37
LjLperhaps last year it wasn't this widespread yet10:37
nixternalno it was...it was pretty much at the peak of the dcc's10:38
LjLwell, it's quite sad that an irc client would have to connect to a non-irc port by default10:38
LjLit's needed though10:38
nixternalalso, 8001 gets through the proxy at the university lab10:39
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ubotuMenZa called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic11:14
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