[01:06] <PriceChild> someone in #ubuntu mimicking chanserv's nick....?
[01:09] <Burgundavia> PriceChild: ?
[01:09] <PriceChild> he's changed again now
[01:09] <PriceChild> was chonserv and chensarv and things.
[01:18] <Jucato> LjL: I wouldn't put the blame on hakaisou entirely, though
[01:19] <LjL> Jucato: which is why, while after seeing the "you dick" part i got +o and was going to kick, eventually, i -o'd and just called ubotu... :)
[01:20] <Jucato> :)
[02:35] <Dabian> OK ... just for the record, I think you should ban those join/part trolls.
[02:35] <Dabian> I don't know if they do it on purpose .. but it sure seems that way
[02:36] <crdlb> ever had wifi?
[02:36] <LjL> i couldn't say. maybe some of them, or many even, do it on purpose
[02:36] <Dabian> If its not on purpose, they seriously need to reconsider their IRC-habits.
[02:36] <LjL> IRC habits?
[02:36] <Dabian> yeah
[02:36] <LjL> there's people coming to #ubuntu who've never used IRC before and are just trying to get support
[02:36] <Dabian> join irc ... wait 2 min.   quit irc
[02:37] <LjL> if they manage to kill their X or their connection or whatever twice in the meanwhile, i'm certainly not banning them for that
[02:37] <Hobbsee> because they expect their answer right now.
[02:37] <Dabian> repeat until dabian upset, then continue.
[02:37] <Hobbsee> you can turn off join/parts in your client
[02:37] <Dabian> LjL: I am not talking about those that do it once ..but if they keep doing it.
[02:37] <Dabian> Hobbsee: I don't wish to do that.
[02:37] <Hobbsee> well, dunno about yours, per se.  most of htem
[02:38] <Dabian> Hobbsee: I can also ignore regular trolls, but I prefer those to be kicked as well.
[02:38] <LjL> Dabian: if they keep doing it it still might be their connection failing spottily. it might be a hundred things. there's way worse things happening on #ubuntu seriously
[02:39] <LjL> Dabian: we already have
[02:39] <LjL> !away
[02:39] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines and !nickspam
[02:39] <LjL> !nickspam
[02:39] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[02:40] <LjL> and, guess what, a LOT of people, when told this, start calling us crazy and whatnot
[02:40] <Dabian> LjL: academo did this 4 times, and I don't think he had any reason to join #Ubuntu; he didn't say anything.
[02:40] <LjL> different channels have different standards. we try to keep a decent compromise between what's tolerated and what gets you banned, given a channel with more than 1000 people on it
[02:41] <LjL> that's quite possible as #ubuntu is joined automatically by default, with the clients that come with Ubuntu
[02:41] <LjL> at least some of them
[02:41] <Dabian> Really?
[02:41] <Dabian> Prehaps that is the problem?
[02:42] <LjL> perhaps. perhaps it's also not a "problem".
[02:42] <Dabian> I would ban anyone who had the pattern of academo unless he was a known contributor.
[02:42] <Dabian> You don't have to make the ban permanent, just ban him for a month or even a week.
[02:42] <Dabian> maybe just a day.
[02:42] <LjL> oh yes, a month for rejoining...
[02:43] <Dabian> But make it automated I advise.. that way it will be fair.
[02:43] <Dabian> LjL: In my book its called "joinflood".
[02:43] <LjL> let's check again - what disturbance did academo create compared to the offtopic discussion we had? counting by mere number-of-lines. (not blaming you, i kept it on as well, just saying).
[02:43] <Dabian> Maybe all ops are ignoring join/part
[02:44] <LjL> this is joinflood
[02:44] <Dabian> LjL: This discussion was prompted by the joinflood.
[02:44] <Dabian> LjL: What you did, wasn't very different from what academo did
[02:44] <LjL> no, the timeframe was kind of different.
[02:44] <Dabian> (Not trying to nail academo btw.  he is just an exaple)
[02:44] <Dabian> example.
[02:45] <Dabian> LjL: Yeah .. your wavelength was different .. otherwise it was the same as academo :)
[02:46] <LjL> well, repeating a question every 10 minutes is in that respect the same as repeating it every 10 seconds
[02:46] <LjL> yet, the latter gets kicked, the former does not
[02:46] <Dabian> True
[02:46] <Dabian> He didn't wait 10 min. before next cycle though.
[02:47] <Dabian> Well, I guess I made my point ...
[02:48] <Dabian> Just annoying for a foreigner that has trouble reading english already to get spammed with join/parts from the same handful of persons. :)
[02:48] <TheSheep> Dabian: just add ignores
[02:49] <Dabian> TheSheep: Thank you for the advise ... I try not to use the ignore feature unless I feel forced to it though.
[02:49] <Seeker`> Dabian: If they are looking for support, someone who has trouble reading english could also ask in their loco group
[02:49] <TheSheep> Dabian: consider yourself forced
[02:50] <Dabian> Seeker`: Right .. try and find someone who speaks danish and is able to answer my questions - oh .. and is online.
[02:50] <Seeker`> Timezones suck.
[02:51] <Dabian> Seeker`: Thank you for the advise though. :)
[02:51] <Seeker`> Speaking of which, it is almost 2am and I should be in bed.
[02:51] <Seeker`> night
[02:51] <Dabian> 2:51am here :)
[02:51] <Dabian> Night Seeker`:)
[02:52] <LjL> Dabian: camouflage your danish as swedish and join #ubuntu-se, that one's populated :P
[02:52] <Dabian> LjL: lol :)
[02:52] <Dabian> I don't really understand swedish well. :)
[02:53] <Dabian> german might be good
[02:53] <Dabian> but not as good as english though.
[02:53] <Dabian> again .. thanks for the advise
[02:53] <Dabian> I guess you already considered banning these flooders, and chose against it for whatever reasons you may have had.
[02:55] <Dabian> Just one question more .. I know #ubuntu is logged .. is it possible to access this log online?  It would amuse me to analyse the log to get an idea how bad the problem is .. and how many "join/part trolls" are really bad.
[02:57] <crdlb> !log
[02:57] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:57] <LjL> Dabian, there are statistics somewhere too
[02:57] <Dabian> oh .. thats nice
[02:57] <LjL> they won't include the one thing you're looking for though i suppose
[02:57] <Dabian> ahh
[02:58] <LjL> should be at  http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org , seems down for me right now though
[03:02] <Dabian> The logs are filtered for parts?
[03:02] <LjL> Dabian: anyway i agree in principle that gratuitous joining and parting is bad, but 1) spotting it manually isn't easy, i see so many joins and parts that i wouldn't even have noticed that guy you talked about at all  2) doing automatically would be very bad, as this is not just like, say, an auto-kick on excessive flooding (which we don't have, anyway)
[03:02] <LjL> perhaps a script that could spot these patterns and just inform me, and then i talk to the guy involved. perhaps. still, i'd have to write it ;)
[03:03] <LjL> i don't remember, quite a few things are filtered indeed though
[03:03] <Dabian> If the kick/ban message informed the user on the reason of the sanction, I guess its preventive in itself.
[03:03] <Dabian> I looked on the log for 22nth.  Manually it seems that ZenDJiNN was the "worst" that day.
[03:04] <Dabian> He joined 7 times, without saying a word.
[03:05] <Dabian> Unfortunately, the joins are not logged with a time stamp.
[03:05] <Dabian> 04:49-05:13 he joined 3 times though
[03:06] <Dabian> That would be 6 lines of j/p info.
[03:06] <Dabian> Not all parts are filtered btw.
[03:06] <Dabian> So I wonder if some joins are filtered?
[03:07] <LjL> would be weird
[03:07] <LjL> perhaps nick changes are filtered?
[03:07] <Dabian> That might be
[03:08] <Dabian> I don't have a single part for ZenDJiNN though.
[03:08] <Dabian> Of cause he might change nick as the first thing.
[03:08] <Dabian> not all nick changes are filtered
[03:09] <Dabian> [03:09] <Dabian> Then agian .. that could be a "/me".
[03:10] <LjL> Dabian: maybe quits are shown but parts are not, or vice versa
[03:10] <Dabian> seems parts are shown, but not quits.
[03:11] <Dabian> Why is it filtered anyhow?
[03:11] <LjL> no idea honestly
[03:12] <LjL> i guess the IP addresses are filtered for privacy reasons
[03:12] <Dabian> They're not filtered, though. ;)
[03:12] <LjL> oh :)
[03:12] <Dabian> [03:12] <LjL> well then i suppose the logging program is just dodgy :P
[03:13] <Dabian> Since there is no timestamp, and the channel is idle chat-wise several times a day .. I guess its hard to make anything useful from these logs.
[03:15] <Dabian> 9:41-12:32 ... I wonder if the channel really was idle here .. or if the log-bot was simply sleeping/offline.
[03:16] <Dabian> same with 03:19-05:27
[03:17] <LjL> i saw the bot going offline a couple of times in the past two days or so
[03:17] <Dabian> *nod*
[03:19] <Hobbsee> fabionne's had trouble with his connection
[03:20] <Dabian> galternatives is great btw.  :)
[03:22] <Dabian> Hobbsee: I guess LjL is right .. it would be fair to analyse the situation manually, and then possibly have a chat with offenders.  On the other hand, that would require a lot of work.  In the end, I guess people are responsible for managing their own connection, and contacting their ISP if there is problems.
[03:24] <Hobbsee> this is true
[03:25] <Hobbsee> and there's not a large number of ops either
[03:25] <Hobbsee> and they tend to have better things to do
[03:25] <Dabian> I take it all that have voice here are ops?
[03:25] <LjL> that's correct
[03:26] <Dabian> On another channel I am on, we have about 97 ops ... but only a few is active.  I guess the same is the case here?
[03:27] <LjL> way fewer ops in #ubuntu, active or not
[03:27] <Dabian> well .. active ops on the other channel is less than 10
[03:27] <Dabian> maybe less than 5.
[03:28] <Dabian> Its an old channel .. maybe founded in '96.
[03:28] <effie_jayx> Dabian, ops here are wise :D
[03:28] <Dabian> Many of the ops don't IRC
[03:29] <Dabian> effie_jayx: Thats nice.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> Dabian: sure, i have ops on stacks of the channels.  but i'm also a dev, so i'm working on that, and only attending to ops when needed
[03:29] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  and you give doom :D
[03:29] <Dabian> Hobbsee: Right.
[03:30] <LjL> Hobbsee: or when feeling pointysticky :P
[03:30] <effie_jayx> LjL,  righto...
[03:30] <Dabian> Hobbsee: Which reminds me that I should go back to developing my little program.
[03:30] <LjL> let me guess - a log analyzer? :P
[03:31] <Dabian> heh no
[03:31] <Dabian> Its a specialised browser.
[03:32] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: and lots of doom.
[03:32] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: you shoul dhave come to UDS.
[03:33] <Dabian> LjL: A program to login to a website with cookies and gather some information etc.
[03:33] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I didn't get to... maybe next month
[03:33] <effie_jayx> next one
[03:33] <Hobbsee> awww
[03:33] <Dabian> LjL: Nah .. I give up on the log thing.  But thanks for the updatealternatives. :)
[03:34] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  you are a KDE developer
[03:35] <LjL> which means she's attacking me with her long pointy stick of doom even when she isn't even on irc, or awake for that matter
[03:35] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: kubuntu, yes.
[03:35] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: and motu
[03:35] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: but i'm not employed by canonical, and they dont tend to sponsor twice in a row
[03:36] <Dabian> sponsor?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> send people to UDS and pay for it
[03:36] <Dabian> UDS?
[03:37] <Hobbsee> ubuntu developers summit
[03:37] <LjL> ubuntu?
[03:37] <Dabian> hehe
[03:37] <LjL> gah, i was *almost* going to get +o in time
[03:38] <Dabian> I still don't know what ubuntu developers summit is .. but I guess its something I could find on some website if I cared to read a lot of text. :)
[03:38] <Hobbsee> likely, yes.
[03:39] <Hobbsee> w.u.c/UDS-Sevilla, i believe
[03:39] <LjL> they give them free wifi in order for them to tell one another jokes about what people say on irc
[03:39] <LjL> basically
[03:39] <Dabian> You have to travel somewhere to work for canoical for a period and then they'll throw money at you?
[03:39] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:39] <Hobbsee> and use cowsay
[03:40] <Hobbsee> not really
[03:40] <Dabian> apt-get -cow
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[03:40] <Hobbsee> < Dabian should learn about cowsay >
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[03:40] <LjL> besides, it's apt-get moo
[03:40] <Dabian> This lousy client uses proportional font
[03:41] <Dabian> I need to fix that.
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[03:42] <Dabian> Well .. lousy is a harsh word .. but its inapropiate to use proportional font for IRC ... that way you miss 62% of Hobbsee's posts. :)
[03:42] <Hobbsee> haha
[03:43] <LjL> well, true, i did miss that
[03:43] <LjL> somehow i think i can read the first three letters though
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[03:44] <LjL> i have an idea
[03:44] <LjL> next time we have a clonebot attack
[03:44] <LjL> we could ban in ascii art
[03:44] <LjL> 50 bots, 50 lines of ascii
[03:45] <Dabian> Is ascii art allowed in #Ubuntu?
[03:45] <LjL> not quite
[03:45] <Hobbsee> nope
[03:45] <Dabian> hehe .. I get your point now though.
[03:45] <Hobbsee> what was that?
[03:46] <Dabian> You mean to kick in ascii art :)
[03:46] <LjL> [03:45:44]  *** You have kicked Hobbsee from the channel (It's not like it's allowed here for that matter).
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[03:46] <Hobbsee> < yes it is. it was at the ops meeting. >
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[03:46] <Hobbsee> !opabuse
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opabuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <Dabian> great ... it seems I cannot change the font
[03:47] <Dabian> !opsabuse
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opsabuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <LjL> !opabuse
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[03:47] <Hobbsee> 
[03:48] <Hobbsee> morning nalioth
[03:48] <Hobbsee> pft
[03:49] <Dabian> I can compile .. but I cannot figure out how to run.  I guess its bedtime for me. :)
[03:49] <Dabian> (again)
[03:50] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[03:50] <Hobbsee> [11:50]  [Notice]  -SeenServ- I last saw Sarah (n=Pune@203.188.35.49) 2h 41m 22s ago, quiting: D-lined
[03:51] <Hobbsee> pity, i was hoping that nick was inactive :P
[03:51] <Dabian> You do not like your nick?
[03:53] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  sorry for the delay... elkbuntu  went twise ;)
[03:54] <Dabian> Hobbsee: Is this your pic? http://tinyurl.com/3b7z2p
[03:54] <Dabian> (From google images)
[03:55] <Hobbsee> Dabian: of course!
[03:55] <Hobbsee> becaues if it's on google, it must be true!
[03:55] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, :)
[03:55] <Dabian> (Here is the whole page: http://tinyurl.com/2shkvw
[03:56] <Dabian> If you don't trust tiny url you can use: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2shkvw
[03:56] <Dabian> THats supposed to show you which url it is first.
[03:57] <Dabian> anyway .. I was heading for bed, I guess.
[05:23] <effie_jayx> how does one unban oneself after a bot bans you :D
[05:23] <Hobbsee> oh?
[05:28] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, KevinAlaska said: Ubotu, what is that last symbol at the end of that text?
[05:33] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  you see we have a bot that watches out for bad words and stuff... if you say the repetitively
[05:33] <effie_jayx> it bans you for 10 minutes
[05:33] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[06:47] <Hobbsee> SportChick: poke
[07:00] <Seveas> !staff
[07:00] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[07:04] <Hobbsee> oh no, i'ts the mad dutchman, and his sidekick!
[07:04] <Seveas> heh
[07:04] <Seveas> I love you too :p
[07:05] <Seveas> (Or is such a joke also off-limits nowadays :p)
[07:05] <Madpilot> evening all
[07:05] <Seveas> evening?
[07:05] <Seveas> it's 7:05!
[07:06] <Seveas> I just woke up
[07:06] <Madpilot> 2205 here
[07:06] <Madpilot> just got back from work
[07:06] <Seveas> weird canadians, always lagging :P
[07:06] <nalioth> Seveas: yes?
[07:06] <Burgundavia> hey Madpilot
[07:06] <Seveas> nalioth, hiya, can I bother you in pm?
[07:06] <Madpilot> evening Burgundavia
[07:06] <nalioth> Seveas: any time
[07:10] <Hobbsee> hi weaselboywhocanttellages
[07:11] <Hobbsee> Seveas: glad to hear it :P
[07:12] <Burgundavia> Hobbsee: you should have been pleased...
[07:13] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: oh i was
[07:13] <Hobbsee> but i'll tease you about ti anyway
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> how far off was he?
[07:13] <Hobbsee> 3-4 years
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> not bad
[07:14] <Seveas> Hobbsee, so he guessed 10?
[07:15] <Hobbsee> no love for you.
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> 27 +- 5 work?
[07:17] <Seveas> Hobbsee, hey, at least nobody said "and guessed 3/4 years too high" ;)
[07:17] <Hobbsee> haha
[07:17] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: heh
[07:33] <Seveas> !ops
[07:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[07:33] <ubotu> Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[07:33] <Madpilot> Mrh?
[07:34] <Seveas> if bob2 asks for access: do NOT give it. He's not the real bob2, but an impostor
[07:34] <Hobbsee> Seveas: what?
[07:34] <elkbuntu> yessir?
[07:34] <Hobbsee> ahh
[07:34] <Hobbsee> oops, sorry
[07:34] <Hobbsee> right
[07:34] <nalioth> lot of you may not remember bob2
[07:34] <Seveas> he was around until early 2006
[07:34] <elkbuntu> heh. may i assume this is part of the recent... controversy?
[07:34] <Madpilot> I think I do - from .au, active a year or so ago
[07:34] <Seveas> elkbuntu, no, this is just a rat
[07:35] <elkbuntu> yeah, never met him, but i heard good things about him.
[07:35] <nalioth> elkbuntu: no
[07:36] <elkbuntu> the real bob2 was bad?
[07:36] <Burgundavia> no, the real bob2 was amazing
[07:37] <elkbuntu> what happened? similar to whiprush's exodus?
[07:39] <nalioth> elkbuntu: real life happened
[07:40] <elkbuntu> damn that real life
[07:40] <Burgundavia> indeed
[07:43] <Hobbsee> speaking of that, i shoudl really do some assignments...
[07:44] <Burgundavia> Seveas: email sent
[08:12] <Hobbsee_> nick Hobbsee
[08:15] <nalioth> disregard the bob2 thing, i now have control of the nicks in question
[08:21] <Madpilot> poningru, he's going to have to set his IRC client to ping on 'mad dutchman' now, otherwise he'll miss all the good stuff
[08:23] <poningru> indeed
[08:23] <poningru> I dont know how you guys do this with a 9-5 job
[08:24] <nalioth> poningru: you drive a taxi, and have a 25/8 job
[08:24] <poningru> ...
[08:24] <maxamillion> poningru: we drink lots of coffee
[08:25] <poningru> seriously though... come home from work at like 6, you read a bit of /. ,all your rss feeds etc. and bam time for bed already
[08:26] <poningru> I need to start better managing my times
[08:27] <Madpilot> just get less sleep
[08:27] <nalioth> hi ompaul
[08:28] <ompaul> morning
[08:30] <poningru> ...
[08:30] <poningru> you people are crazy
[08:30] <poningru> ofcourse better coding skillz help too
[08:35] <elkbuntu> heh, i dont need to start better managing my time until i actually manage my time
[08:38] <nalioth> elkbuntu: you started quite a thread today
[08:39] <elkbuntu> Yup!
[08:39] <poningru> que?
[08:41] <nalioth> poningru: mailing list
[08:42] <poningru> oh? which one?
[08:43] <Madpilot> the one one sounder?
[08:44] <ompaul> Madpilot, you weasled your continual name calling with your brother into that blog post :P
[08:45] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, and on my blog, and on nixternal's blog, and on the linux-aus list
[08:45] <Madpilot> ompaul, of course. That was almost the entire point of that blogpost :)
[08:46] <ompaul> it was rather funny to hear you on the phone and then see his facial reaction to the news
[08:47] <elkbuntu> i didnt hear Madpilot on the phone... :-/
[08:48] <Madpilot> hmm? you mean the sip conf. line? I never did use it, so not sure who you heard on there...
[08:55] <elkbuntu> i think it's because i fed the news through
[08:58] <elkbuntu> we were talking to imbrandon in that session iirc
[08:58] <elkbuntu> i cant remember who addressed corey either, was it jono or me?
[09:01] <Madpilot> hehe
[09:25] <elkbuntu> its great he can cop such ribbings and not let them get him down though. he'd have been a wreck by the end of the week otherwise
[09:39] <ompaul> ohh
[09:40] <ompaul> I thought it was you - maybe imbrandon knew it too and said it and started to laugh
[09:41] <elkbuntu> well i had announced it in the room, and he would have been listening at that point
[09:41] <ompaul> ahh
[09:41] <ompaul> I walked in after that part of it
[09:41] <ompaul> I saw seveas addressing corey with it
[09:42] <elkbuntu> hehe
[09:47] <poningru> I have no idea what you ugys are talking about
[09:47] <poningru> guys*
[09:48] <ompaul> poningru, be happy
[09:49] <poningru> :p
[09:49] <ompaul> it is very very silly
[09:50] <ompaul> yeap
[09:51] <Madpilot> very silly.
[09:51] <ompaul> Madpilot, you are missing a very in there
[09:51] <Madpilot> poningru, I let elkbuntu and a couple of other people know one of Burgundavia's nicknames, and they dropped it on him at UDS. I'm evil. But I have fun. :)
[09:52] <poningru> rofl
[09:54] <Madpilot> my little brother probably thought he was a continent & a big ocean away from my evil influence at the time
[10:04] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: welcome to planet ;)
[10:04] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, thanks.
[10:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:04] <Hobbsee> prepare for much madness
[10:06] <Madpilot> not too much. I might tweak my blog to have a planet-only RSS feed, but currently everything is syndicated to p.u.c
[10:08] <gnomefreak> is there another good rss feed on ubuntu other than planet?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> like a rss feed focused more on devel?
[10:11] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: devel of what?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: im looking for rss' that focus on ubuntu (more so than linux.com or debian blogs
[10:12] <Hobbsee> ahh
[10:12] <gnomefreak> atm the only one i have found is planet since it seems to be most used
[10:12] <Hobbsee> yes
[10:12] <Hobbsee> there's planets for toehr countries, but i think they're no better
[10:12] <Madpilot> the UWN has an RSS feed
[10:13] <gnomefreak> thats an idea since i never see it ;)
[10:14] <Madpilot> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/uwn/feed
[10:14] <Madpilot> direct RSS link ^^
[10:16] <gnomefreak> yeah i got it ty
[11:56] <elkbuntu> hmm.. did Lounge end up being banned the other night or not?
[12:20] <PriceChild> :O there's a #ubuntu-men...
[12:20] <Jenna_80> sure there is
[12:21] <ompaul> or there is now?
[12:21] <mc44> people like to make a stand, even if it is silly
[12:22] <PriceChild> Hopefully this move towards "ubuntu for all" will help get rid of silly things like this
[12:22] <ompaul> PriceChild, okay lets have a new hirearchy for the ubuntu world
[12:22] <PriceChild> can we have a code to the death on who gets to be top?
[12:23] <ompaul> PriceChild, nothing so radical
[12:23] <PriceChild> actually yeah I wouldn't get far...
[12:23] <mc44> lets have a pun to the death
[12:23] <mc44> all hail king ompaul
[12:23] <PriceChild> Anyway what were you saying ompaul? :)
[12:24] <ompaul>  #ubuntu #ubuntu-tld-cc #ubuntu-irc-channels_managed_by_the_council
[12:25] <ompaul> so that makes locos good
[12:25] <ompaul> you can't join the tld list unless you are on the loco list
[12:26] <PriceChild> I'm confused.
[12:34] <ompaul> PriceChild, the idea was to mark the projects that had CC approval very easily and the rest could not join the trees until they were "approved"
[12:34] <PriceChild> ahh ok
[12:34] <ompaul> so for instance #ubuntu-irc-meeting
[12:40] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: i thought that was a legit loco channel
[12:40] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, what was?
[12:40] <Hobbsee> #ubuntu-men
[12:40] <PriceChild> loco channel for who?
[12:40] <PriceChild> i'm not saying it isn't legit.... anyone can make a channel if they follow guidelines etc.
[12:41] <mc44> for us poor opressed men, obviously :P
[12:42] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:42] <Hobbsee> yes you poor people
[12:42] <ompaul> mc44, you confuse your words, repressed is not opressed
[12:42] <Hobbsee> i dont remember - but i think it is one
[12:43] <mc44> ompaul: arf :)
[12:44] <Hobbsee> then again, it does have ao...painful in there
[12:44] <mc44> yes. /me sighs
[01:01] <PriceChild> *groan* he's quoting freenode guidelines to me... :(
[01:02] <mc44> oh he has become well versed in them
[01:02] <PriceChild> I'm off to lecture
[01:07] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, dont worry about -men. it's a stupid idea that will never achieve anything except nicely kill the "why isnt there a.. ' attitude -women get
[01:08] <Hobbsee> ah, fun
[03:07] <PriceChild> hmm?
[03:08] <Seeker`> somerville32: You fear LongPointy Stick
[03:08] <somerville32> Of course.
[06:35] <Seveas> apokryphos, ping
[06:36] <apokryphos> Seveas: hey
[06:36] <Seveas> apokryphos, pm
[10:21] <LjL> !staff | unklined exploiter in #ubuntu, "ur_mum"
[10:21] <ubotu> unklined exploiter in #ubuntu, "ur_mum": Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[10:23] <LjL> nalioth, is that you or just your client? i've put ur_mum in a limbo (i.e. +q), i think he needs a kline
[10:24] <LjL> nevermind :)
[10:31] <PriceChild> wow only 3 people were disconnected
[10:35] <nalioth> PriceChild: this is why we do what we do
[10:35] <PriceChild> indeed :)
[10:36] <LjL> i think feisty helped too...
[10:37] <nixternal> you think? :)
[10:37] <nixternal> I had just noticed working on konversation that it is set to 8001 finally
[10:37] <LjL> well, konversation at least comes with 8001 as default in feisty
[10:37] <LjL> yeah
[10:37] <nixternal> I remember bringing that up last year and it got shot down
[10:37] <LjL> i'm not too sure about other clients though
[10:37] <nixternal> nalioth: you remember that? I went to the devs with it and they were like ummm..no
[10:37] <LjL> perhaps last year it wasn't this widespread yet
[10:38] <nixternal> no it was...it was pretty much at the peak of the dcc's
[10:38] <LjL> well, it's quite sad that an irc client would have to connect to a non-irc port by default
[10:38] <LjL> it's needed though
[10:39] <nixternal> also, 8001 gets through the proxy at the university lab
[11:14] <ubotu> MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic