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test3rhihi !.01:08
test3r!hardware compatability01:08
test3r!compatability01:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compatability - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:09
test3rive got an older eMachine that i want to know if it could run Xubuntu on01:11
kalikianatest3r, What are your specs?01:12
test3rits about a 1Ghrz descent amount of RAM i think01:12
test3rprob whatever vid card01:12
test3r128 RAM , intel video Netgear LAN, "SoundMAX" audio01:13
test3rthere those r the specs i wrote down01:13
Mercheloyeah, should do it01:13
Mercheloxubuntu needs a min 64megs to run once installed01:13
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test3rsweet. i got 11+ gigs to work with so im thinking im going to use gParted01:13
test3ryeah ill use the alt insytall cd should take less01:14
kalikianaSounds just fine, give it a try already :D01:14
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test3rRight? hmmmmmm I would have to unhook This though01:14
test3r=(01:14
test3rwell here goes nuthin01:15
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n0xiei got a newbie question01:16
n0xiei've been playing around with xubuntu on my old laptop01:17
Merchelonewb away01:17
n0xieit has a ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY videocard01:17
Mercheloand you need drivers?01:17
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n0xiewell it's working sofar with standard ati drivers01:18
n0xiei just want to give beryl a go01:18
n0xiebut i know ati is usually not the best way to start01:18
n0xieso should i even try or is it doomed to fail?01:18
crdlbactually old ati cards work really well with beryl01:18
maxamillionn0xie: beryl on an older machine?01:18
crdlbit's new ati cards that suck01:18
n0xiemaxamillion: yes01:18
crdlbberyl/compiz runs fine on my M701:19
n0xiecrdlb: do you have any howto or faq where i could start?01:19
crdlbn0xie: #ubuntu-effects01:19
maxamillionn0xie: guess its worth a shot, i know if you had the nvidia drivers you could do it ... i know someone who ran beryl on an amd k6-2 333mhz with 192mb of ram because he had a nvidia mx4000 and the nvidia drivers know how to offset the work load correctly01:19
n0xieyeah this is a 1700 with 512 ram, so it's not the specs that worry me, more the fact that it's ati and a mobility01:20
maxamillionn0xie: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu01:20
crdlbthe M6 (aka radeon 7000) is the oldest ati card01:20
crdlbthat can run beryl01:20
crdlbno not that wiki please01:20
maxamillionwhy not?01:20
crdlbbecause it's terrible01:20
n0xiewell there are so many contradictionary howto's and faqs01:21
crdlbthere's a link in the topic of #ubuntu-effects01:21
maxamillioncrdlb: beryl is terrible, what's your point?01:21
crdlberm what?01:21
maxamillionnothing ... i just don't like beryl01:21
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n0xiemaxamillion: i'm just curious how it looks :)01:24
maxamillionn0xie: http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&gbv=2&q=beryl+screenshots&btnG=Search+Images01:25
maxamillion:)01:25
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n0xiewell it's different seeing a screenshot than actually using it ;)01:26
maxamillion18:24 < n0xie> maxamillion: i'm just curious how it looks :)01:27
maxamillion;)01:27
nullhow can i find out what default charset my distro is using?01:35
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shroomskyhello01:35
nullhi01:35
maxamillionhi01:36
shroomskymy firefox already has flash working but i cant seem to get it going with opera01:36
maxamillionshroomsky: different plugin for different browsers ... i don't use opera so i can't entirely help you with that one though :/01:36
shroomskyok01:37
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ochosiwhy would a usb-stick not be found in xubuntu 7.04? (lsusb doesn't show a thing)01:43
maxamillionochosi: not all usb sticks are supported01:45
ochosimaxamillion: seriously?01:45
n0xiewell gonna try to get this beryl business started->reboot01:46
n0xiewish me luch01:46
ochosimaxamillion: it's a "safestick" by "powerram", so a cheap one, i guess...01:46
n0xieerr luck too01:46
maxamillionochosi: yeah, different usb chipsets do different things ... :/01:46
ochosimaxamillion: that's really weird... it works in windoze, but not i xubuntu...01:47
ochosimaxamillion: so incompatibility is your last word? nothing we could probably do about it?01:47
maxamillionochosi: no not last word, just first thought01:48
ochosimaxamillion: hihi, ok, i see ;)01:48
maxamillionochosi: lemme check something01:49
maxamillionochosi: can you pastebin the output of the command "lshal | grep usb"01:50
ochosimaxamillion: ok, one sec...01:50
ochosisorry, seems to be difficult to find a workin pastebin01:54
maxamillioni gotta run, getting off work01:54
maxamillion!pastebin | ochosi01:55
ubotuochosi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:55
maxamillionreall sorry, but i have to run01:55
ochosihttp://pastebin.4programmers.net/218901:56
ochosihttp://pastebin.4programmers.net/218901:56
ochosianyone there who could have a look at that instead of maxamillion?01:57
ochosioook.02:00
ochosino worries02:00
ochosiwill figure it out somehow02:00
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kioskanyone know of an image editor more lightweight than GIMP?04:35
kioskthat can save in many formats?04:35
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mlalkakahi everyone04:38
j1mchi mlalkaka04:38
mlalkakais it possible to install xubuntu from the ubuntu main installation cd or the alternate cd? if so, which one?04:39
j1mcmlalkaka: yes, although it's preferred to install from a xubuntu cd.  if those are your only options....04:44
j1mcyou could use the alternate install cd to install the base ubuntu system . . .04:44
j1mcand then reboot to the command line . . .04:44
j1mcand enter "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"04:44
j1mcmlalkaka: does that help?04:45
mlalkakaj1mc: after doing that, how can i get rid of any unecessary ubuntu packages?04:45
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j1mcmlalkaka: what do you mean?  could you explain further?04:47
mlalkakaj1mc: oh nvm. after reading your suggestion again, i noticed that you said "base ubuntu system". i originally thought you meant to do a full install of ubuntu, then install xubuntu-desktop.04:48
mlalkakabut if it's preferred to install from a xubuntu cd, then i'll just do that. it'll be simpler :-).04:49
mlalkakaout of curiosity, though, how do you install a base ubuntu system using one of the ubuntu cd's?04:49
j1mcmlalkaka: that is possible, too04:49
j1mc(it's possible to have both ubuntu and xubuntu installed...  )  as for your question about installing a base system...04:50
j1mcyou'd use the alternate install cd...04:50
j1mcand select "install a command-line system."  (i think that's what it's called)04:50
kioskwhat GUI comes with ubuntu?04:51
j1mcthat would give you all of the core ubuntu components, but no graphical environment.04:51
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j1mckiosk: ubuntu comes with gnome04:51
j1mcxubuntu comes with xfce04:51
kioskthat is really the key difference between the two right?04:51
KHatfullHi there...12 month Ubuntu user, just did first install of Xubuntu...all works great except when I try to start the terminal X gets blown and I go back to the GDM login...any ideas?04:52
kioskand kubuntu is KDE . . .04:52
mlalkakakiosk: that's right04:53
j1mcKHatfull: yes. i think i can help.04:53
j1mcKHatfull: is it a slightly older system?04:53
j1mcKHatfull: do you know where your xorg.conf file is located?04:54
KHatfullI just found it in the forums....24 -> 16 bit?04:54
KHatfullOh yeah, I;ve had to manually configure a 1024x600 screen before :-(04:55
j1mcKHatfull: yes.04:55
j1mc24->1604:55
j1mcthat has helped a few people that i know...04:55
mlalkakadoes NetworkManager work with xfce/xubuntu?04:56
j1mcmlalkaka: do you mean the gnome nm-applet?04:56
j1mcthe little icon in the toolbar that lets you connect to wired and wireless networks?04:57
mlalkakaj1mc: oh yes that's what i meant? it's a gnome thing? is there a replacement for it in xubuntu?04:57
KHatfullwicd works good too04:57
kioskI installed netmonitet-applet with apt get yesterday04:57
kiosk*netmoniter-applet04:58
KHatfullmlalkaka: search the forums for "wicd"....works great, doesn;t use Gnome libs04:58
j1mcmlalkaka: there isn't yet an xfce replacement ("airconfig" is in the works, but it wasn't ready for feisty).04:58
j1mcgnome's network manager applet (nm-applet) does work in xubuntu, though.04:58
KHatfullhttp://wicd.sourceforge.net/04:58
j1mcKHatfull: thanks for the tip.  i'll check that out.04:58
KHatfull24 -> 16 worked here for terminal, thanks04:59
mlalkakaKHatfull, j1mc: thanks04:59
j1mcKHatfull: glad it worked.  :)05:00
j1mcmlalkaka: take it easy!05:01
j1mcgood night, all.  i'm headed out.05:01
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BFTDyo06:46
BFTDwhats a good linux video format to use?06:57
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peepsalotBFTD, see http://xiph.org/ for free software codecs07:09
peepsalottheora is the one for video07:09
peepsaloti've never tried it though07:09
BFTDyeah07:12
BFTD.ogg is only audio07:12
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airdogHello is anyone available to help me with a failed xubunto install? when i do the install no splash it drops with a unable to call job, but no error message, the last message i see it says it attachd my scsi sg007:16
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MyrttiIt would be so much fun if install related questions would be at #ubuntu07:42
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PrimoTurboHow do I install Cursors in xubuntu?10:54
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salty-horsehi. I'm trying to locate the icon used for "quit" in the "action button" panel applet12:30
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kmindi|ibm-t20hello12:52
kmindi|ibm-t20I have many *.tar.gz / *.tar.bz2 archives (fluxbox styles). how can i unpack all without typing everytime "tar -xzf nameofarchive.tar.[gz/bz2] "?12:53
kmindi|ibm-t20i tried it with "tar -xzf *.gz"12:54
kmindi|ibm-t20but that did not work12:54
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crdlbfor i in *.tar.gz; do tar -xzf $i; done01:02
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kmindi|ibm-t20thx @ crdlb01:07
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Gremhi04:02
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Gremneed some advice.. I'm on a laptop, and what keeps me using Kubuntu over Xubuntu is the bluetooth and access samba shares facilities that KDE has.. Is there a good alternative in Xubuntu?04:03
kim_hey, has anyone ahd any problems with the printer add wizard? when i try and add a new printer, it asks me for the password for 'root'...needless to say, my sudo password doesnt work. any ideas? is this a bug?04:04
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Merchelobah05:14
Zeqfreedbah bah05:16
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somerville32bah bah bah05:30
Merchelotime to go to the pub05:31
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Aaron44Hi05:43
Aaron44What's the root password?05:43
TheSheep!root | Aaron4405:43
ubotuAaron44: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:43
Aaron44Cheers05:43
LectusHello05:45
Lectushow do I seach for a file name on / ?05:45
TheSheepLectus: you can either use 'locate' or 'find', the former is much faster, but uses an index that is periodically created, so it may not find recently added files05:47
Lectuswhat's the syntax for find?05:47
TheSheepLectus: the simpliest use is 'find / -name filename', see 'man find' for details05:48
Lectusok... thanks05:48
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DeviadHello06:11
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somerville32Hello! :)06:15
DeviadCan anyone pls tell me what's wrong with this scripts and xubuntu? http://www.linuxvar.it/index.php/Debian_su_MacBook_Pro#Illuminazione_schermo.2C_tastiera_e_sensori06:17
DeviadThose scripts are supposed to lower the clock when you unplug the power cable and raise that when you plug it instead06:18
Deviadthe latest section adds a "couple of things" when you close the monitor06:18
Deviadof your laptop06:18
DeviadBeyond lowering and raising the clock they should lower and raise the backlight of the monitor as well06:19
Deviadthis last thing does not work...06:19
Deviadthe backlight is always the same06:19
DeviadUnfortunately no scripts like this came as default with xubuntu :\06:19
somerville32Hmmm... I'll take a look at the script later.06:20
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spottedHello06:28
spottedCan anyone pls copy and past the contents of lid.sh?06:29
spottedI have deleted the file for a mistake06:29
spottedthe file is located in /etc/acpi/lid.sh06:29
spottedthank you very much06:29
PriceChildspotted, that file is part of the package acpi-support06:29
spottedPriceChild, can you pls just copy the contents of the file?06:31
spottedIt will uninstall xubuntu-desktop as well06:31
spottedand I don't know the consequences of that :|06:31
PriceChildi never said uninstall and reinstall :)06:31
spotteddpkg-reconfigure is ok?06:31
spottedI guess it didn't work06:32
PriceChildspotted, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22177/ although I don't know whether that is feisty or gutsy's06:32
PriceChildsudo apt-get install --reinstall should do the best job afaik06:32
spottedit didn't reinstall the script06:33
spotted:\06:33
spottedthanks... pasting was the only thing to do :P06:35
hyper__chanyone got a tv card?06:37
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graziehyper__ch: ^^06:48
hyper__chwell, getting already help in the German forum :)06:48
hyper__chchannel06:48
grazieI probably wouldn't be much help anyway06:49
hyper__chgrazie: thx anyway06:51
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jpbotelhohiha06:56
jpbotelhoi installed xfce in ubuntu yestarday, when i used gnome, the option of Screen Lock is work, but when i instaled xfce, it dont work anymore06:58
jpbotelhocan any1 helpme?06:58
hyper__chwhat's screen lock?07:00
hyper__chjpbotelho:07:01
jpbotelhoScreen lock option07:02
hyper__chjpbotelho: what's that?07:02
jpbotelhoLock Screen Option07:03
jpbotelhohave Exit button and Screen Lock button07:04
hyper__chjpbotelho: what do they do?07:04
jpbotelhoif i click in Exit, it work fine.. but if i click in "Screen Lock" it dont work07:05
graziejpbotelho: Are these buttons on your keyboard? Have you tried ctrl+alt+Delete?07:06
jpbotelhoi fixed xcreensaver07:08
jpbotelhono problem more07:08
jpbotelhoty07:08
spottedCan anyone pls tell me how to fix these errors: http://rafb.net/p/aFwkWk13.html07:12
spotted?07:12
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mlalkakawhat program comes with xubuntu that i can use to manage wireless networks? i'm looking for a program that would allow me to select from a list of available wireless networks. it can be a console program too.07:23
TheSheep!wifi | mlalkaka07:24
ubotumlalkaka: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:24
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mlalkakaTheSheep: thanks07:25
VR_TheSheep: have you by any chance tried compiling 4.4.1 ?07:25
hyper__chTheSheep: ever since I turned on the Display Composition Window Tweak with transparency the screensaver has problems...07:25
graziespotted: Is there no build help from where you got the source utility from? Looks like you're missing stuff07:26
spottedI googled around and it is reported as a bug07:26
spottedthat's why I stopped to look for other causes07:26
TheSheephyper__ch: try enabling "display full screen overlay windows directly" in wm tweaks07:28
hyper__chTheSheep: it is activated... maybe I should deactivate it?07:30
TheSheephyper__ch: try07:30
hyper__chTheSheep: I'll do :)07:31
hyper__chbtw, if you have a mail server that has TSL it will only secure the transmission of your email from your computer to the server right? It does not mean that the server will then securly transmit the email to the recipient server, right?07:32
TheSheepdepends where you have the tsl07:35
hyper__chTheSheep: well I tend to think not all email servers have TSL and I tend to think not all servers have SSL certificates and stuff... that's why I think the transmission between the email servers is not secured07:37
hyper__cham I wrong on that?07:37
TheSheephyper__ch: I never looked at the details, but I know it's negotiated -- so the secure protocols are tried first07:38
hyper__chTheSheep: ah ok... well the problem is that one of my bosses (in his other firm) use SSL secured email server and they only have problems with it... and I kept thinking why using it if e-server to e-server isn't also secured07:39
hyper__chand if that's the case then there's no need to secure the email from sender to e-mail server07:39
TheSheephyper__ch: it's much harder to tap into the server-server communication07:40
hyper__chTheSheep: you think so?07:40
hyper__chI thought some "institutions" monitor all traffic like the echelon system07:41
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TheSheephyper__ch: if you check your mial in an internet cafe, the cafe owner can look at it. but if two servers excachnge information, you need someone on the routers to eavesdrop07:41
hyper__chI thought the US gvt does that07:42
TheSheephyper__ch: well, they also forbid using any encryption too strong for them to break07:43
hyper__chand they also can order you to reveal passwords07:43
grazieOff topic but I'm sure someone here will know. Is it possible to connect s-video or SCART output to a DVI monitor input?07:44
TheSheepgrazie: there are converters07:44
hyper__chgrazie: it's less offtopic than my conversation with TheSheep right now... I even pointed out that I'm in #xubuntu-offtopic ;)07:45
hyper__chbtw, I just bought the other day a new videocard now with a dvi output... where will I notice quality enhancements?07:45
grazieTheSheep: Thanks...I've seen the kits, I've even got a v.old myself. I'll take a closer look07:46
hyper__chis here a OOo pro?07:55
hyper__chI wonder how to enter the special characters from OOo with the keyboard... in Windows in M$ Office (and ASCII) code it was ALT+...07:56
TheSheephyper__ch: google for 'compose key'07:57
hyper__chOOo also have a keycombo but it's defined as "u+...."07:57
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hyper__ch*restarting X*08:03
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BFTDho all08:15
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hyper_chanyone can help me identifying a process?08:33
hyper_chI have lotus notes started through wine08:33
hyper_chbut it became un-responsive08:34
hyper_chnow I have still that wine windows open08:34
hyper_chbut ps aux | grep     lotus or notes or wine don't return anything08:34
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somerville32hyper_ch, press: ctrl + alt + esc08:35
somerville32And then click the window.08:35
Smygiskillall wine; pkill wine*; xkill klickonwindow08:35
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hyper_chsomerville32: nope... tried that last time... killed other stuff... not that unresponsive window08:35
somerville32lol08:35
somerville32Most interesting08:35
hyper_chsomerville32: well, this time it worked... when I click on the window top bar...08:36
somerville32Tada :] 08:36
hyper_chbut still, what process was it?08:36
somerville32Can't tell you know :P08:37
somerville32lol08:37
hyper_ch;)08:38
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somerville32Oh crap08:39
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somerville32*now08:39
somerville32Stupid k key... too close to the n key : (08:39
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sopottedhttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-pciutils-discuss/2007-February/000165.html08:41
sopottedDoes anyone know any way to solve that bug?08:41
sopottedI'm kind of disappointed cos I cannot compile backlight.c08:41
sopottedbecause of that error :\08:41
somerville32I'm pretty sure that out pciutils package is forked08:42
sopottedsomerville32, what do you mean?08:42
somerville32We have ubuntu specific modifications08:43
sopottedI have that problem on ubuntu08:45
sopotted:|08:45
sopottedgosh... I have to install gentoo just for a backlight to work... cool08:46
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jeriko<3 gentoo08:50
somerville32sopotted, I doubt it.08:52
somerville32Backlight works on my laptop08:52
somerville32Your laptop might not support it08:52
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jerikoindeed, linux is linux, distro shouldn't matter08:53
TheSheepjeriko: linux is kernel08:54
graziehyper_ch: you only need too much spare time if you watch every single line of code compile. A second machine is a necessity if you don't care to do this :)08:55
TheSheepgrazie: you know, I've heard that there are actually some operating systems that do multitatskin, I mean, you can compile things and do other things at the same time...08:55
hyper_chgrazie: :)08:55
hyper_chTheSheep: multitasking is a myth08:56
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grazieknowing*08:57
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hyper_chTheSheep: he's mortally wounded... cpr won't help...08:59
TheSheephyper_ch: sure, but it's fun ;)08:59
hyper_chTheSheep: you just want to see the blood spill out of his wound09:00
TheSheephyper_ch: likeo n tv, you see09:00
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Lectusare the ubuntu repositories down? I keep getting error messages with apt-get09:02
hyper_chLectus: maybe just the one you use are down09:02
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LectusI'm getting 404 not found09:03
hyper_chmy repos work fine09:04
LectusI'll try to change the country09:05
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hyper_chLectus: need mine?09:05
hyper_chch.archive.ubuntu.com09:06
Lectusnope... I got on: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/09:06
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Lectusgot it working now09:10
Lectusit seems that the repo from my country are down09:10
hyper_chLectus: can happen :)09:10
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arkanabarEver since I made xubuntu my default desktop, I've gotten a bug buddy report on every boot regarding evolution.  Where do I send this thing?09:13
hyper_ch!bugs09:14
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots09:14
arkanabarThanks.09:16
hyper_charkanabar: you're welcome :)09:16
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Lectuswow... I installed IceWM on xubuntu... looks cool09:18
hyper_chLectus: it's a nice manager09:18
hyper_chLectus: I have it on my USB stick09:19
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Lectusalthough not all programs are visible on the menu... I don't know why09:20
hyper_chLectus: some thing remain a miracle ;)09:20
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CatoptromancyOk some reason I get w3m as my defaultbrowser instead of firefox09:39
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hyper_chCatoptromancy: do you have a question or was this just a statement?09:46
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Catoptromancyheh09:47
CatoptromancyI think it was only gaim09:47
Catoptromancyno big deal09:47
Catoptromancywanted firefox as default browser to open09:47
Catoptromancydidnt even know I had w3m until it somehow opened by default09:48
hyper_ch;)09:51
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DeviadMILAN CHAMPION10:59
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largosI'm having a problem with OO.org on a xubuntu system, and I'm not sure where to ask about it.11:54
largosToday the font used in OO for drawing all the controlling widgets is much, much larger than it should be (eg: the menu bars / toolbars, etc.) and it generally looks less... detailed.  I think the rulers are missing mm ticks, for example11:55
largosscreenshot up here: http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/clouds/clouds_2048.jpg11:55
largoser, http://ciscavate.org/data/oo-large.jpg  <-- there11:55
largosOpenOffice is in front, with Abiword in back to show the contrast in font size.11:55
largosyesterday everything looked fine, but after a reboot (and possibly an update?) it started looking like this.  Any ideas?11:56
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darrendlargos: installing openoffice.org-gtk might fix it11:57
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largosdarrend: ah.. thanks. I'll give that a shot.11:57
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largosdarrend++12:00
largosthat's much, much better :)12:00
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darrendcool :)12:00
somerville32\o/12:00
largosI wonder why it changed12:01
largos(the gtk version looks like what I was using yesterday)12:01
darrenddon't know - some config messup somewhere probably.  I've had OOo issues like that on both gentoo (with xfce) and xubuntu12:02
largoshm... it also seems to have some different settings re: the document formatting.12:02
largosall my headings lost the space between number and content. eg: 1,2Analysis of the Problem vs. 1,2 Analysis of the Problem12:03
largos<sigh> I wish I could just go back to using LaTeX12:03
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Ezep-notebookhi12:16
Ezep-notebookhow could i change the language of the keyboard?12:16
maxamillionEzep-notebook: just a moment12:19
largoshm.. I'm wondering that too, actually :)12:20
largosI've always used xmodmap & .xsession, but it'd be nice to know the "xubuntu" suggested way...12:20
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Ezep-notebookmaxamillion: thx12:21
maxamillionits actually something we are going to be targeting as a subject to cover in the next release documentation, it seems to be a popular issue12:21
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largosactually, I guess my question is more general -- I'd like to do arbitrary key remapping12:22
largos(and ideally have those changes persist across different WMs and into VTs12:23
maxamillionlargos: right, that's what we plan to address ... i actually don't know how to do it, i've never had to change the key mapping post installation but our doc team is working on it and i am looking for the info at the moment12:23
BFTDanyone use ham radio and linux together?12:25

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