rodrigo_inthemixlet's go, have a good night12:13
K-RyanHas anyone installed PlaneShift before?12:14
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foxxSergo-Kubuntu: You can add the Medibuntu repository in order to gain access to them if legal in your country.12:14
K-RyanSucessfully I might add...12:14
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foxxSergo-Kubuntu: If you're on 64-bit Kubuntu you can check out the w64codecs package (all the w32 codecs but in 64-bit-Ubuntu digestible form)12:14
Sergo-Kubuntufoxx: to gain access to codecs?12:14
K-RyanIt's an MMORPG, www.planeshift.it12:15
Sergo-Kubuntui'm on 32-bit12:15
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: By default the codecs aren't installed because they arne't open source.12:15
K-RyanThe download is a .bin, and I'm trying to install it through the terminal12:15
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aroobdgraue: I chose scim but nothing showed up in the taskbar12:15
ForgeAusfoxx? even if they're not legal to simply download you can pay for them right?12:15
K-RyanOh hold on, I got a message from planeshift channel...12:15
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foxxForgeAus: That depends, there are no legal paid codecs for some of them for Linux12:15
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bdgrauearoo: do you have scin installed?12:16
foxxForgeAus: The legality is "questionable," not necessarily illegal12:16
ForgeAusfoxx, grrr this annoys me it should be illegal for companies to do that!12:16
foxxForgeAus: Yes, you'd imagine so, but it's the world we live in, right?12:16
bdgrauearoo: do you have scim or skim installed?12:16
K-RyanNever mind, this guy's helping me and knows what he's talking about..12:16
ForgeAusif theres a movie in a format you get you should have access (sure even if you ahve to pay some for the codec) to view it...12:16
aroobdgraue: one sec I might have found the problem12:17
foxxForgeAus: They separate the codec pack (Sergo-Kubuntu, you're looking for the one named "w32codecs") because IF it ever becomes flat-out illegal nobody can shut down Ubuntu12:17
Sergo-Kubuntuwhat is w32codecs properly, what it contains?12:18
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Sergo-Kubuntuthe collection of codecs?12:18
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: Basically all the 32-bit codecs from Windows.12:18
ForgeAusyeah mostly windows ones12:18
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: WMV9, for instance12:18
RawSewagethey wouldnt make it illegal.  Microsoft likes Ubuntu and the Linux community.  thats why they made a deal with Novell, so they can help us make Linux even better12:18
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aroobdgraue: I didn't have scim-canna installed whoops :)12:18
ForgeAusRaw I disagree12:18
foxxRawSewage: lol, yeah, of course.12:19
foxxForgeAus: I think he's making a joke12:19
ForgeAusmicrosoft recently are saying that 40+ of their patents have been breached in the linux OS12:19
bdgrauearoo: so it works now?12:19
aroobdgraue: yes :012:19
Sergo-Kubuntufoxx: can i install codecs for kubuntu so: http://ubuntu.org.md/?p=4 ?12:19
ForgeAusI hope 20+ of them are simply SAMBA related12:19
K-RyanForgeAus: Well that's Microsoft for ya'...12:19
Sergo-Kubuntuthere is a list of codecs ..12:19
ForgeAuslinux can do without Samba if it needs to...12:19
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RawSewageI like Samba12:20
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: I'm sorry, I do not speak that language, but as long as you get a repository that has "w32codecs.deb" you're golden12:20
ForgeAusme 2 raw12:20
foxxForgeAus: I like my Samba.12:20
foxxIt's one of the few things MS has made that's actually kinda nice (not Samba itself, the protocol used, SMB)12:20
RawSewageis Samba patented12:21
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foxxRawSewage: Nope, it's a complete impelentation from the ground up12:21
ForgeAusfoxx sure might be12:21
foxxRawSewage: Or heck, I suppose it COULD be12:21
ForgeAusbut it still might use patented functionality12:22
foxxForgeAus: I doubt it.  When's the last time someone patented a network protocol?12:22
ForgeAuseven if developed independantly from it12:22
K-Ryan"cd PlaneShift/" "Permission denied"12:22
ForgeAusfoxx maybe not the protocol itself12:22
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ForgeAusbut an aspect that makes the protocol unworkable?12:22
foxxForgeAus: Sure there's software patents but I've never heard of one on a protocol.  Provided you don't have a patented protocol you can implement it any way you like12:22
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LucianSolarisANYONE: Here's something that's pissing me off, in Kubuntu, under kcontrol, i've disabled the power option to turn off my screen, except it seems to have no effect in not turning off my screen!  is there anything else that would make my screen turn off (it isn't hardware)?12:23
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: Ah, here we are.  This is the Medibuntu repository.  Follow the "Repository How-To" and you'll be in good shape to get the w32codec packs and anything else you need:  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/12:23
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K-RyanTurn off like, screen saver turn off?12:23
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foxxOh yeah, I have a question.  Is anyone here using Aquamarine and Beryl?12:24
Sergo-Kubuntufoxx: ye thanks i'm downloading now those close-sources12:24
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: Good stuff, glad we could help.12:24
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: You *may* need to point Kaffeine at the w32codecs but it should be automatic.  Just fire up your favorites12:24
K-RyanI can't changedir to a directory, permission denied12:24
K-Ryanhow do i fix it?12:24
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: IF for some reason you still can't, there's a final solution12:24
Sergo-KubuntuK-Ryan: sudo su12:24
Sergo-Kubuntuto become an root12:25
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foxxSergo-Kubuntu: The VideoLAN Client (called "VLC") has built-in codec support for...well...just about ANYTHING.12:25
LucianSolarisk-ryan: i mean 'turning off the screen', not a screensaver12:25
LucianSolarisi want it to quit killing my screen12:25
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: It's also free, open-source, and on every platform just about12:25
LucianSolarisi want my screen saver to be there 6 hours from when i leave it12:25
LucianSolarisnot a black screen12:25
K-RyanYes, that's what I was talking about12:25
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foxxSergo-Kubuntu: I'd recommend installing VLC (will be called "vlc" in the repository) just in case you come across something you can't play.12:25
K-Ryanright click your desktop and goto configure desktop12:25
luckyoneafter following this: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/ruby/2007/04/26/ruby-on-rails-meets-eclipse.html?page=3 , eclipse just eats 100% of my processor - does anyone know what is going on?12:26
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: Guaranteed that player will work.  If it doesn't, it's flat-out not possible to play.12:26
Sergo-Kubuntuok thanks for remembering me about vlc i just forget about vlc its' really rocks12:26
K-RyanErr, never mind, that's not where I saw it.12:26
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K-RyanI'll keep looking though.12:26
LucianSolarisit's already been disabled in kcontrol12:26
liam_vlc is awesome. if it cant play a file then the file is wrong12:26
LucianSolarisunder the energy start hing12:26
liam_simple as that12:26
LucianSolaris*star thing12:26
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Sergo-Kubuntuhow this is possible that vlc doesn't need any codecs to play something12:28
Sergo-Kubuntuit's seems it's an ultra program12:28
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: Heh, it is, pretty much.  Basically they built all codec support into the program already12:28
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: This makes it difficult to extend, but on the positive side there isn't a codec out there it can't play12:29
foxxSergo-Kubuntu: Flat-out removes all the codec guessing.  On the negative side it's not as pretty as something like Kaffeine (and my sound quality is **** with it for some unknown reason)12:29
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frectomexwho can guide me to install LEADTEK DTV 2000 H ? pls :)12:30
foxxI should note I still absolutely LOVE VLC, though.12:31
foxxI just hate my sound chip. =)12:31
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Sergo-Kubuntudosen't matter if vlc isn't pretty, if it's work fine this is enought :)12:32
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Sergo-Kubuntuand i will remove now all w32codecs and will install probaly vlc12:33
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BWolf85what problem is everyone wresting with today12:34
Sergo-Kubuntuvlc is also pretty12:34
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foxxBWolf85: Well, I had a serious issue with my Envy24HT sound chip but crimsun helped me track down that problem (broken asound.state file)12:35
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foxxSergo-Kubuntu: Yeah, I think everyone loves VLC.  It's the only player I use in Windows now and one of hte only ones I use in Linux12:35
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BWolf85VLC is good what i used in windows all the time12:36
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foxxBWolf85: Any idea what would give you poor audio performance in VLC (and pretty much ONLY VLC) under Linux?12:38
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foxxBWolf85: I've heard it might be a flaw in the ALSA implementation12:38
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david__anyone here familiar wiht beryl?12:39
BWolf85u mean a popping or clicking12:39
BWolf85!beryl | david12:39
|frectomex|who know how to install a hybrid tv card12:39
ubotudavid: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:39
david__thanks BWolf85, i just can't get window borders or any themes to work12:40
foxxBWolf85: popping and crackling, yeah12:40
foxxdavid__: Check out http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=13833.msg70914;topicseen#new as well12:40
BWolf85yah my vlc does that at times too just depends on the music file *mp3* some times it doesnt12:41
liam_im writing an scrits using bash for an assignment i have to do. Its amazing how powerful it is12:41
K-Ryanscripts? =P12:41
foxxWhich reminds me of something else, is there a recommended package to install for MP3 support?  I'm not all that satisfied with the one automatickally downloaded for Amarok (if I crank the PCM output to max it sound HORRIBLE)12:42
liam_lol, i used to be able to spell12:42
foxxliam_: Yeah, scripts should be mandatory for computer usage.  They make you love the bomb.12:42
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liam_true! awk and grep and my new best friends. Im hoping i can at least get a B :)12:43
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ReMiiRuruCan I get OpenGL working(even if very slow) without nvidia drivers?12:44
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just-this-timehow do I know the version of Xserver ?12:46
VSpikedoes anyone recommend intalling the 3.5.7 packages on feisty?12:46
VSpikeI installed 3.5.6 on edgy and had problems.  Then again, they are supposed to be mostly bugfixes and stability improvements.  So I don't know whether it's a good idea or not.12:46
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foxxThinkGeek got rid of the grepmaster mugs!12:46
foxxHow could they?!12:46
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liam_ha! gutted12:47
VSpikejust-this-time: aptitude show xserver-xorg12:47
liam_yus! just as i was saying how much i loved scripting. i have done something bad. my scripts have gone :( Always keep a baclup!12:48
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foxxVSpike: Generally I don't think too many people have had a positive experience with Edgy.  Have you considered trying Feisty?12:48
BWolf85love the feisty!12:48
BWolf85*then again its all ive used(12:48
foxxReMiiRuru: Probably not.  You need graphics acceleration for OpenGL12:48
foxxReMiiRuru: Depending on your card you *could* try the open source drivers (for nvidia it's "nv") but they kill my GF7800GT12:49
hivemindI've used the last four editions, Fiesty is nice ^_^12:49
BWolf85can i post a linux related link here?12:49
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BWolf85i think so12:49
foxxBWolf85: I've used Edgy and still do on my Media server (just don't want to upgrade until I get that external hard drive backup working...you never know)12:49
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BWolf85linux open sourse cellphones12:49
foxxBWolf85: But overall Feisty is much nicer12:49
ReMiiRurufoxx: I use nv(because I can not get nvidia drivers to work) but I don't have OpenGL, I remember that on suse, when I had it year ago, I could use OpenGL without nvidia drivers, but fps was about 5~12:50
BWolf85my external HD works fine in feisty12:50
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s17lanshello there12:50
foxxBWolf85: It's not a question of it "working," it's actually getting it connected.  ;)12:50
VSpikefoxx: sorry, i mean I have feisty, and I saw http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php12:50
s17lansi just installed kubuntu and i need some help about updating12:50
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VSpikefoxx: was wondering if anyone had installed.12:51
BWolf85whats up s17lans12:51
foxxBWolf85: I need to get an enclosure to make my hard drive external, plug it in, then put it in the cron to do it regularly12:51
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s17lanshow i do updates ?12:51
VSpikefoxx: when I had edgy, I installed the kde 3.5.6 packages which were backported, but I had some problems with them12:51
foxxVSpike: Ah, I apologize then.12:51
VSpikefoxx: np :)12:51
s17lansi dont mean apt-get etc12:51
VSpikefoxx: I agree, on the whole feisty works better for me12:52
ulmolavenderhow do I scan images? I've got an hp all-in one, xsane says "Failed to open device hpaio:/usb/psc......." Error during device I/O.12:52
foxxAlright, it was great hanging out with you all but I have yet more things to break (I've come to the conclusion that anyone using Linux probably enjoys breaking things)12:52
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)12:52
VSpikefoxx: ain't that the truth12:52
liam_i agree12:52
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ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners12:52
BWolf85my computer tells me when there is an update needed12:52
ReMiiRuruAnyone can think of linux/BIOS/whatever magic needed to fix it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21594/12:53
foxxVSpike: Yeah, pretty much.  You figure it this way...you had a functional system, and you PURPOSEFULLY broke it to put Linux on it12:53
|frectomex|who knows how to install a hybrid tv card ?12:53
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VSpikefoxx: also true :)12:53
foxxVSpike: Looking at it from that perspective I think there's probably just something in us that inherently likes broken things. ;)12:53
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VSpikefoxx: or enjoys a challenge12:53
foxxYes...of how to break it.  ;P12:54
liam_or is really bored12:54
VSpikeliam_: that too12:54
BWolf85my computer breaks all the time by me making mistakes...ive learned more that way then any12:54
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BWolf85keep info backed up and can always just reinstall and reformat if all else fails hah12:54
liam_same here! teaches you the importance of backing up too12:54
foxxWhile not directly Kubuntu related I also wanted to relate a victory for Open Source.  As of yesterday my household is now completely Windows-free12:54
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liam_nice one foxx12:54
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foxxMy wife just got her first Linux installation up and running, Slackware 11.0.  Complete with Wireless!12:55
foxxNow I just have to make my 360 play nice with my media server and we'll be golden. ;)12:55
VSpikemine is still asking "where has Word gone?"12:55
foxxVSpike: lol12:55
liam_wireless is evil! feisty sems to handle it better though12:55
foxxVSpike: Tell it about Kate, she's pretty. ;P12:55
BWolf85i have a windows partition for school because its what me university used to use all the time. though i also use winders for my website server.12:55
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foxxliam_: We used ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant to get our Broadcom working12:56
VSpikeShe's coming to an accomodation with OpenOffice12:56
liam_i had a bad ralink chipset12:56
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BWolf85i used ndiswrapper for my wireless12:56
liam_not even the drivers form tha ralink site worked12:56
ReMiiRuruI have to use windows for school/work, but 95% of my PC uptime is on linux.12:56
foxxFor us since we got a 360 we haven't felt like doing pretty much gaming on the pc at all.12:56
liam_in the end i bought a new card :)12:56
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BWolf85my pc is pure business i have ps3 and 360 for games hah12:57
foxxAfter using the system for awhile now i've been thinking MS should just pull out of Windows and just do game systems...they're shockingly good for it12:57
foxxI hated to say it back when we bought an XBox but console systems seem to be where their ideology flourishes.12:57
BWolf85PS3 kills xbox 360 but needs better games12:57
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foxxI dunno, I disagree from a hardware and third party perspective, but that's another story.  I'm just glad we have two systems to choose from. ;)12:58
ReMiiRurufoxx: it's three, I like to count Wii in as well.12:58
BWolf85i wish i had a wii too hah12:58
foxxReMiiRuru: I like the Wii, I just don't compare it to those.  Just doesn't seem fair since PS3/360 are for a totally different audience.12:59
foxxFor what the Wii does there's just nothing that competes.  class of its own12:59
BWolf85though i do agree 360/ps3 would eat a wii for breakfast if you truely compare the systems12:59
BWolf85THOUGH you can put ubuntu on PS312:59
ReMiiRuruActually for me it was more like a joice of 360+Wii VS ps312:59
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foxxYeah, that's for us, too.  PS3 just doesn't have the hardware or the software I want.  I'm glad it's there though for people that like it...wouldn't be fun console gaming without variety, after all01:00
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foxxWhen Sony puts God of War on PS3 I'll say it's time for us to get one.  ;)01:00
VSpikemm that's quite nice: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KIO+Slave+sysinfo:++-+Kubuntu+7.04+pkg?content=5870401:01
BWolf85god of war 2 was ehh but i love gw01:01
Sergo-Kubuntui use kopete and i don't know how to exit icq and use irc01:01
ReMiiRuruBut anyway I use DS the most, I just don't seem to have time to play games at home.01:01
Sergo-Kubuntuanyone now01:01
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BWolf85what do u mean exit icq and use irc01:01
BWolf85isnt there an icon at the bottom of the program u can right click on then choose disconnect01:02
RawSewageBWolf85, use Konversation01:02
BWolf85i use konversation for irc01:02
BWolf85was referting to sergo's question01:02
VSpikeRawSewage: you meant that for Sergo-Kubuntu I think01:02
BWolf85or so i though lol01:02
Sergo-Kubuntuhow to exit ICQ kopete and to use back irc anyone know01:03
Sergo-Kubuntukopete irc01:03
foxxReMiiRuru: I know what you mean.  We're the opposite way, no time for portable systems, lots of time for home consoles.01:03
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BWolf85portable system seemed limited to me but trust me they did come in handy during highschool01:04
ReMiiRurufoxx: Yeah, I know people like that as well :)01:04
foxxYeah, we just live on an island quite literally in the middle of nowhere.01:04
foxxNot exactly anywhere to use one.01:04
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foxxAnd if we're at home...well, it's 360 + Linux time for us.01:04
sayersI was inable to get WiFi to work on the laptop. Anything special I had to do?01:04
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illriginalHey what's up guys? I have a question about Edgy Vs. Fiesty which is more reliable as of now?01:05
foxxsayers: That depends.  Are you using ndiswrapper?01:05
foxxillriginal: Feisty, easily01:05
lucahi everyone01:05
sayersfoxx: not sure, I never installed it. Just the CD01:05
lucais it possible to make firefox more integrated in KDE?01:05
foxxillriginal: Well, Check out the UbuntuForums.  Number of Edgy problems reported are far more than Feisty problems01:05
BWolf85fiesty is the newer version illriginal so it will be supported more now. if there were improvements needed to be made then the wouldnt have updated01:05
illriginalwell that's good to know foxx and BWolf85 :D01:06
lucaI'd like to use Konqueror for file browsing and Kmail for mail instead of Firefox firing up Nautilus and Evolution01:06
illriginalyeah foxx... I've seen a quite a lot of complaints on Edgy01:06
foxxillriginal: Sure thing. I really like Feisty and this is coming from a Gentoo user01:06
Sergo-KubuntuRawSewage i know about Konvestation but Kopete have more advantages01:06
BWolf85get feisty illriginal01:06
RawSewageSergo-Kubuntu, ok01:06
illriginalyeah I downloaded and I'm gonna burn it onto a disc01:06
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foxxWell, Gentoo and Slackware.  (Oh yeah, we don't use use Linux, we USE Linux)01:06
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illriginaljust a quick question, have they made it easier on the compatibility of Wireless connections?01:07
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BWolf85yes from what i hear they are better at wifi01:07
nitro4ceis it possible to convert my disk (ext3) to ext4?01:07
foxxillriginal: As much as possible.  *Most* will work out of the box.  Sometimes you may still need to open up a wpa_supplicant.conf but pretty much, yeah01:07
illriginalthat's good to read :D01:07
illriginalvery good gentlemen, thank you very much for answering my questions01:08
BWolf85the ubuntu site offeres a LOT of information about wifi01:08
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sayersHow would I install the ndiswrapper foxx ? If it doesnt have connections to the interweb01:08
VSpikeluca: I'm sure I found an article on that once, but I can't find it now :/01:08
illriginalthanks again foxx and BWolf8501:08
lucaVSpike ok thanks anyway :) anyone else?01:08
BWolf85np ill01:08
foxxsayers: Chances are it'll be available off the CD01:09
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foxxsayers: If not you'll need to get it to the wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper DEB files to the system some other way, like by way of USB key01:09
nitro4cedoes anyone know?01:09
VSpikeluca: http://konquefox.free.fr/ looks interesting01:09
foxxsayers: At least, this is how to do it the "hard" way in Slackware (if it works in one it should work in another)01:10
VSpikeluca: I know what you mean, especially on the GTK file picker.  I also use Evolution, and have the same problem01:10
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foxxIf you've got a Windows-only driver board (like a Broadcom) then you'll need to use NDISwrapper to use it01:10
discernirHi. Newbie here. How do I enable 3d acceleration for nvidia card (on a toshiba m200)?01:10
BWolf85yes i have a broadcom and you do ndiswrapper01:11
VSpikeSo really, none of you serial upgrade junkies intstalled the KDE 3.5.7 packages yet?  That's amazing!01:11
sayersfoxx: how would I run it with it then if it Comes with the cd01:11
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foxxVSpike: When it's available for update I'll do it, but otherwise KDE 3.5 is KDE 3.5 to me.01:11
foxxsayers: chances are it's already installed.  Easy way to tell is pull up a console and type "lspci" or "sudo lspci"01:11
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VSpikefoxx: What do you mean, available for update?  Add one lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list and it will be01:12
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foxxIf you see your WiFi card there in the output then congrats, your WiFi card is recognized.01:12
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foxxVSpike: I mean in the standard universe/multiverse/medibuntu repositories.  Honestly I don't really venture outside of those much.01:12
lucaVSpike: it is interesting, but still not what I look for :) thanks anyway :)01:12
foxxVSpike: If I muck with a sources.list too much I might forget just what exactly is installed on the system and that's a scary state for me01:13
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foxxVSpike: not to mention installing Kubuntu on another system would mean I'd need to remember what repositories to use in case I don't have a backup...the little inconveniences continue.01:13
discernirHi and greetings from Bolivia  :) Could anyone help me on enabling 3D acceleration in Kubuntu for a laptop with a geforce card? Thanks, Badi01:14
foxxsayers: Now if you DON'T see your WiFi card then there's some trouble.  You can check to see if ndiswrapper is installed from the LiveCD but chances are it already is01:14
VSpikefoxx: I know what you mean. I went a little crazy on adding new repos to my edgy system, and it became very flakey01:14
VSpikefoxx: That's why I want someone *else* to test these for me first!01:14
foxxsayers: If it's not connecting but you see your WiFi card don't worry, that just means it's an actual connection issue instead of a hardware recognition issue (much easier to fix than hardware)01:15
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foxxVSpike: Yeah, I tend to like to keep the standard repos.  If I absolutely HAVE to have something not in the multiverse I'll just download the .deb so I know exactly where it is01:15
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foxxVSpike: I've had enough systems die on me for various reasons to make me paranoid about getting too complacent with any one01:16
VSpikefoxx: http://dot.kde.org/1179831426/ makes it sound tempting though ;)01:16
maltaethironHey, how do I relaunch the desktop if it's failed?01:16
foxxVSpike: I dunno, nothing in there I care too terribly much about minus KDevelop.01:17
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foxxVSpike: I don't use the PIM suite.  Storing those kinds of things *generally* speaking always strikes me as a bad idea01:17
XBehaveif im using an edgy install instead ofa fiesty lvie cd will i need to change my repos to use bootstrap or will i be ok?01:17
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bdgraueso, no one can help me with isdn in feisty, avm fritzcard pci? then i have to try other distros?  :-((01:18
BWolf85isdn? sorry im TERRIBLE with acronyms01:19
VSpikemaltaethiron: depends what you mean.. are you at a command prompt?01:19
cavvemanHi. I can't use my soundcard. I have a SoundMax AD1986a. How do I configure Alsa so it can work in kubuntu?01:19
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:19
VSpikemaltaethiron: or you want to kill a running session?01:19
delightare there plans for debs of kdevelop 3.4.1 on kubuntu.org ?01:19
BWolf85yes rictoo01:20
Rictoo__how would I get aprocess list from console?01:20
maltaethironVSpike: well, i booted my computer, and everything is working fine, but there was a KDE crash message up when i started, and it said the desktop crashed01:20
Rictoo__how would I get a process list from console?01:20
BWolf85rictoo: K > system > KSysGuard01:20
Rictoo__from console01:20
delightRictoo__: ps or maybe pstree01:20
delightps aux01:21
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BWolf85ksysguard in console will do it01:21
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Rictoo__oh, BWolf85 I'll try01:21
VSpikedelight: http://dot.kde.org/1179831426/ & http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php01:21
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Rictoo__Of course it won't work01:22
Rictoo__IM IN CONSOLE01:22
Rictoo__NO KDE OR ANYTHING -.-'01:22
BWolf85just worked for me hah01:22
VSpikeRictoo__: htop is the best process manager for console.  sudo apt-get install htop01:22
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achillequalche italiano?01:23
delightVSpike: I got this repo and kde 3.5.7 installed but there was no kdevelop 3.4.1 in it yet ... question is are they on the way?01:23
BWolf85yes ricto do what vspike said i just followed it and it does work01:23
VSpikedelight: hmm that's odd the first link definitely says it's included01:24
VSpikedelight: I haven't installed those repos yet - was just trying to find if anyone had01:24
delightthe first link is from kde ... the second from kubuntu ... kubuntu only got the kde packages up till now in there repos01:24
delightVSpike: i did on my feisty i38601:25
delightworks great for me01:25
delightand i got tons of software isntalled on my box01:25
KevinAlaskaHow do I type with a keyboard? ;)01:26
VSpikedelight: if they are in gutsy you can use prevu to backport them01:26
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VSpikeI only discovered that recently. It's very neat01:26
delightVSpike: don't know about prevu ... what is that ?01:26
maltaethironvspike: so is there any hope for my desktop? lol01:26
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ubotusayers: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:27
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ubotuprevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details01:27
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.01:27
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ubotuA desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.01:27
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VSpikedelight: the wiki is pretty detailed.  I used it to backport the gutsy packages of dovecot-imap 1.0 release to feisty01:28
delightVSpike: thnx ;) strange thing is they have the new umbrello in it but not the new kdevelop01:28
BWolf85where is everyone from01:28
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VSpikemaltaethiron: so you say everything is working OK now? Do you know what the exact error was?01:28
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KevinAlaskaare there problems installing gnome with a native kubuntu installation?01:28
delightVSpike: i backported a lot of things on my debian box ... kept it in stable and got me packages from testing / unstable ;)01:29
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delightVSpike: this looks even more easy ;)01:29
VSpikedelight: I guess sometimes they will work without recompiling, but this recompiles them from source against the libs on your system.  I think01:30
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maltaethironvspike: i know that it said "KDE Crash Handler" and said something about the desktop crashing.  All my apps work just fine, but i can't see any icons on the desktop, or right click, for example.01:34
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K-RyanThe desktop process probably isn't running01:34
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K-RyanTried restarting X?01:35
KevinAlaskaHow do you register in Freenode?01:35
VSpikemaltaethiron: you could do alt-F2 and run "kdestop"01:35
VSpikemaltaethiron: "kdesktop" i mean01:35
maltaethironvspike: if i do that, will it end this current session?01:35
K-RyanTry what VSpike said maltaethiron01:35
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VSpikemaltaethiron: nope01:35
K-RyanNo, it won't01:35
K-RyanIt will just restart the desktop process01:36
VSpikemaltaethiron: that's the next step if all else fails.. just log out and back in again :)01:36
maltaethironok, and how do i get out of alt-F2, because ive been stuck in there before01:36
K-RyanHit escape01:36
RawSewagemaltaethiron, are you on a laptop01:36
VSpikemust go sleep... good luck maltaethiron01:36
VSpikenight all01:36
K-RyanNight VSpike01:36
maltaethironyes RawSewage, thanks vspike01:36
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RawSewageI installed Kubuntu on my laptop the other day, and it works fine, but I have some random crashes01:37
RawSewageI dont have crashes on my destop, which also has Kubuntu01:37
K-Ryanmaltaethiron: did running kdesktop fix it?01:37
RawSewagerun kicker too01:37
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maltaethironalt f2 didnt work, ima try to run it from Konsole01:38
RawSewagemaltaethiron, what kind of laptop01:38
maltaethirona Dell Latitude D50501:38
RawSewagemine's a Toshiba01:38
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RawSewageI bet it has something to do with laptop power management app01:39
K-Ryanmaltaethiron: Unless ending your current session is a big deal you can always just ctrl+alt+backspace(restart X)01:39
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klobsteranyone try an install on a fujitsu stylistic 3400?01:39
BWolf85anyone like to know my biggest excitement with kubuntu?01:39
maltaethironk-ryan, rawsewage: i ran kdesktop from Konsole, and it worked fine01:40
K-RyanSure BWolf8501:40
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klobsterBWolf85 yeah01:40
K-Ryanmaltaethiron: Ah, then all is well. Glad to hear.01:40
BWolf85I can make my P4 laptop last almost 2 and a half hours01:40
maltaethironThanks, now I get to go write my Senior Project on Dorian Gray and Macbeth....fun fun01:40
klobsterBWolf85 not bad!01:40
BWolf85yah compaired with windows i could barely make a full hour01:40
K-RyanSee ya' maltaethiron01:41
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ReMiiRuruWhat is the simplest way to setup writing with japanese input? Something like windows IME, I don't know how stuff like that is called under linux...01:41
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RadiantFireReMiiRuru: scim/skim01:42
RadiantFireReMiiRuru: there are some really complicated instructions floating around somewhere on how to do it01:42
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ReMiiRuruRadiantFire: Well, good to know how it's called, bad thing is it's complicated @_@01:43
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RadiantFireReMiiRuru: there are indepth i nstructions, they are just long01:45
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RadiantFireReMiiRuru: I think there are 4 or 5 steps, but I know my technologically illiterate friend was able to do it without help01:45
RadiantFireReMiiRuru: they are floating around on the forums01:45
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BWolf85wheres the batter ap01:46
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sergiuit is possible to replace konqueror with dolphin?01:46
sergiufor kubuntu01:47
RawSewageKDE4 will have both01:47
RawSewageyou can install Dolphin01:47
ReMiiRuruRadiantFire: Oh, thats much better, now I'm not discouraged to try ^_^01:47
RawSewageDolphin isnt meant as a Konq replacement01:47
sergiuRawSewage: do you mean that kde4 when will be realised will include dolphin as file manager01:47
RawSewagebut it will still have Konqueror01:48
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RawSewageyou can install Dolphin now if you want01:48
RadiantFirethe current incarnation of dolphin is highly... unimpressive01:48
RadiantFiremost of the development is happening for KDE401:48
RadiantFirewhich the current version of dolphin doesn't have01:48
RawSewageis that why Kubuntu didnt get all those new features that Ubuntu did01:49
RadiantFirewhat do you mean?01:49
RawSewageRestricted Driver Manager, for one01:49
RawSewageCompiz 1-click enable01:49
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RawSewageand some other things01:50
RadiantFirethey are coming for gutsy I think01:50
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BWolf85im bored01:50
RadiantFirebut yeah, but we got an xserver configurator and they didn't01:50
MinatakuHeehee... Gassy Giraffe. That can be the next version. XD01:50
RawSewageRadiantFire, Whats that.  I dont know about that01:50
RadiantFireRawSewage: the display & monitor module in system settings has no corresponding gnome equivalent01:51
RadiantFirewell, it does, but its not default installed yet01:51
RawSewageyou mean the thing that lists all the different brands of monitors01:51
RawSewagethats new for Feisty?01:52
sergiuwho have xp with kopete..01:52
RadiantFireRawSewage: it has new powers01:52
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tj__hello everyone01:53
RadiantFirei personally think being able to control resolutio from the gui is more useful than a restircted manager, but thas just me01:53
K-RyanHi there tj__!01:53
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RadiantFirehello tj__01:53
Minatakutj__, come on down, you're the next contestant on... THE PRICE IS RIGHT01:54
MinatakuNot that it'll be the same after this year01:54
MinatakuThough it really hasn't been the same since Rod Roddy died :(01:54
tj__sorry at work and on the phones lol01:54
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tj__simple question ok well not really but go with it lol01:55
Sergo-Kubuntuwhen i lunch kopete there is icq windows but i want to chose another messenger01:55
Sergo-Kubuntuhow to do01:55
RawSewageControlling resolution in Monitor panel isnt new to Feisty though01:55
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tj__when sitting at the pc and starting beryl-manager it says detected NVIDIA but if for just testing purposes i loaunch while in an NX session it says detected AIGLX does anyone know if there is really any difference??01:57
j1ttershey all. can someone help with a quick stupid question.01:57
Minatakuj1tters: As long as it's not too stupid.01:57
ni1sj1tters: sure01:57
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j1ttersok. usb 2.0 drive plugged in. formatted. shows everywhere. how in the heck to i get it to show in thunar or krusader or whatever. i can see it under /dev/sda but cant actuall open it.01:58
j1ttersam i just a retard01:58
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MinatakuYou need to mount it, or if it automounts, open up where it gets mounted to01:59
j1ttersall i want to do is copy a drive over to it. but im just looking for an icon or something.01:59
K-RyanNo j1tters, you aren't a retard =P01:59
j1ttersit shows under gparted. its formated etc.01:59
klobsterit should automount, did it create an icon on your desktop?  where is this "everywhere" you are seeing it?01:59
j1ttersno. no icon on desktop.02:00
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klobstercheck in /media?02:00
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j1ttersnot there02:00
tj__hmmm guess no one has the answer to mine huh.... grrrr lol02:00
Sergo-Kubuntuanyone know how to change kopete protocol02:00
j1tterscan i mount it under gparted or ... another way?02:00
K-Ryantj__: Ask again or wait around, someone is bound to have an answer.02:00
tj__when sitting at the pc and starting beryl-manager it says detected NVIDIA but if for just testing purposes i loaunch while in an NX session it says detected AIGLX does anyone know if there is really any difference??02:01
BWolf85tj questions get lost with a fast chat02:01
j1ttersgparted shows it as unmounted but gives me no way to mount it.02:01
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tazzi am having a problem configuring my eth1 interface, is there any lan configuration tool for kubuntu as there is one for ubuntu?02:02
klobstertj_ sorry, thats a tough one02:02
BWolf85eth1 being wifi tazz02:02
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Sergo-Kubuntucan i remove kopete from kubuntu?02:02
tazzBWolf85, no its my rj45 lancard02:02
j1tterswhats the best way to mount /dev/sda02:02
klobsterj1tters no gparted won't mount it.  hold on02:02
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BWolf85oh eth1 on my laptop is wifi sorry02:02
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zarilionIm having some trouble loging in after installing the nvidia drivers>< running irssi from command line now:P02:03
K-RyanHi there pulaski!02:03
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Minataku/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/external type ufs (ro)02:03
BWolf85whats the card doing though taxx02:03
zariliondont seeme to be able to start x-server02:04
tj__same prob with NVIDIA a while back02:04
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K-Ryanzarilion: Did you modify your xorg.conf?02:04
MinatakuI formatted a floppy on my Sun Ultra 2 to have a UFS filesystem02:04
tj__what did you install restricted drivers or ??02:04
zarilionK-Ryan: no. dunno if the installer did it but02:04
MinatakuAs a result it also has a Solaris SPARC disklabel02:04
K-Ryanzarilion: Installer?02:04
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zariliontj__: did a sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new02:05
tazzBWolf85, i have to configure dns -, but i dont know how to do this.02:05
K-RyanOh okay, that kind of an installer...02:05
pulaskiHi K-Ryan, I need to use kubuntu feisty fawn efax to send a fax using my modem.  My /dev/ttyS0 is not the correct device.  Do you know what kubuntu calls the modem or how I can find out?02:05
K-Ryanzarilion: There is a different package, are you sure that's not what you needed?02:05
tj__remove that...... and try ... wait have to find mine lol02:05
MinatakuThankfully I have support for that compiled into my kernel02:05
K-RyanThen there are also the legacy drivers.02:05
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K-Ryanpulaski: I myself have not dealt with efax, but I'm sure someone in the channel has so stick around and someone is bound to help you.02:06
tj__hmmm you know hwat i used automatix for that actually.....02:06
tj__opps what02:06
zarilionK-Ryan: i have been using ubuntu for about 2 months now and always have been using those drivers.. but today i installed kubuntu and got this problem:P02:06
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tj__download automatix... use the nvidia drivers from it... gthat gives you the nvidia control panel too02:07
K-Ryanzarilion: Strange... Uninstall them for now.02:07
K-RyanNever ever ever use automatix!02:07
K-Ryan!automatix | tj__02:07
zarilionK-Ryan: didnt:P02:07
tinincould someone tell me how do i install a few packages at the same time inside a folder?02:07
j1ttersi need to walk away. be back in a bit.02:07
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tj__well the long way takes a while to explain that at least gets things started in the right direction02:08
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Minatakutj__: No, it just breaks things02:08
ni1sWhy should I avoid automatix?02:08
MinatakuVery badly02:08
tj__wow really02:08
K-RyanYes really02:08
tj__never had a prob yet since 5.04 i think lol02:08
K-RyanOften times it breaks stuff so bad you need to do a clean isntall.02:08
Minatakuubotu would tell you that if it wasn't completely dead02:08
zarilionK-Ryan: dont kubuntu have the restricted drivers manager as ubuntu have?02:08
pulaskiK-Ryan, efax is not my problem. I need to know how to find out what the /dev/name is for my modem?02:08
tj__got tired of spending an hour in the shell typing building etc etc....02:08
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K-Ryanpulaski: Sorry, not sure =/02:09
pulaskiok good enough02:09
Minatakupulaski: IS there a /dev/modem ?02:09
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K-Ryanzarilion: I'm not sure, I was trying to figure that out the other day02:09
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tj__zarilion... check xorg file and see what default res is setr to02:10
zarilionK-Ryan: whats the command to start up KDM from the terminal to see what the loader says?02:10
Minatakupulaski: Hm02:11
MinatakuI don't happen to have a working modem, so I can't help either... sorry :(02:11
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tj__if default res is set to 16 or 24 nvidia drivers usually wont start... mine has to be set to 32 to have X start.... dont know why im not that deep into it but only thing that works on this end on a geforce 702:11
pulaskithanks for considering this Minataku02:11
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pulaskiit is a standard data/fax us robotics modem that kubunt had a driver for02:12
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Minatakupulaski: You can keep poking things and see if any of them are it02:12
klobsterpulaski: did you look here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13340902:12
zarilionhow do i open the xorg.conf file? im in the dir but dunno how to open it:P02:12
david2edit it as root02:12
tj__sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:12
MinatakuIt might also not be set to "COM1" aka ttyS002:12
K-Ryanyou need to be in root02:12
david2in a text editor02:13
pulaskiwell yes thanks02:13
K-Ryansudo nano /ect/X11/xorg.conf02:13
MinatakuTry the other ttySn devices02:13
MinatakuOne of them might be it02:13
tj__to escape type <esc> :q! to exit or <esc> :x to save02:13
tj__nevermind hehehe02:13
klobsterpulaski: sorry, wrong click https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto02:13
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pulaskigood thanks klobster02:14
zariliondefault its set to 640x480><02:14
K-RyanI wish I had something to type up, I want to play with nano =)02:14
tj__no not res... the default depth sorry02:14
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MinatakuHeehee, I have a floppy disk with a Solaris SPARC disklabel and a UFS filesystem :302:16
zariliontj__: 2402:16
tj__change to 32 see what happens02:16
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klobsterpulaski: HTH02:17
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tj__zarilion can i send my xorg file through here to you... never really used this... but you could use for comparision02:18
K-RyanOh yeah, ubotu is dead02:18
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K-RyanI'm not sure if he could view it though..02:19
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klobster!ubotu dead?02:20
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ivanaldoe aeeeeeeeeeee02:21
Minatakuubotu is completely unresponsive02:21
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tj__did that work?02:21
tj__sorry.... zarilion did that work changing to 3202:22
zariliontj__: hmm. nop. still only get a blinking bar on the top of the screen02:22
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zariliontj__: where is the backup xorg.conf file?? its gone:P02:23
K-RyanIt should be in the same place as the xorg.conf02:23
tj__should be in the same direct. call xorg.conf.1 or something02:23
SolifugusAnyone get vmware server to install?02:23
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Solifuguson feisty fawn, that is02:23
Zeelotvmware workstation?02:23
Zeelotor is that different02:24
MinatakuNo, server02:24
MinatakuThe free one02:24
zariliontj__: ahh. found it:) now how do i swap em out again?02:24
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Zeelotomg there's a free one >_<02:24
SolifugusDoes workstation let you create images and run them or just run them?02:24
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MinatakuSolifugus: No, that's server02:24
Zeelotcreate images?02:24
Zeelotfrom what02:24
tj__you have mc installed??02:24
Solifugusinstall operating systems02:24
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Zeelotyea can02:25
Zeelotyou can*02:25
Solifugusoh wait.. workstation in not freely available.. is it?02:25
Zeelotguess not02:25
Solifuguswell then.. server...02:25
Zeelotsince it's not free? =P02:25
zariliontj__: mc?02:25
Zeelotnever used server02:25
tj__man lol i just blanked on how to rename file from command line lol02:25
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SolifugusI had it server worked on the previous kubuntu02:25
tj__i always use MC aka midnight commander02:26
Solifugustj__:   mv  filefrom fileto02:26
MinatakuI've used VMWare Server02:26
tj__thanks.... ok whats the file name for the backup xorg file02:26
MinatakuIf you don't mind having proprietary modules taint the kernel, it's fairly excellent02:26
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zarilionits xorg.conf.102:26
K-RyanSee ya' guys02:27
tj__ok so first sudo rm xorg.conf02:27
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SolifugusMinataku: i don't.. but it says it fails in building the vmmon kernel module02:27
tj__then mv xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf02:27
MinatakuSolifugus: The whole error being...?02:27
underdog5004how can I check to see how much of my disk is free?02:27
tj__ok dumb question... private (red messages) how? lol02:28
Minatakuunderdog5004: Better is df -h02:28
underdog5004lol, I was so close...I was thinking mf...thanks!02:28
zariliontj__: tnx:) ill try now:)02:28
Minatakuno problem02:28
underdog5004Minataku, I know...I've asked here like 4 times already...02:28
underdog5004thank you thank you thank you02:28
MinatakuI like the one Gentoo provides02:28
MinatakuMuch better02:28
tj__zarilion good luck ;)02:29
osirisany idea how to remedy this02:29
osirisException in thread "main" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError02:29
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:29
ubotutj__: please see above02:29
SolifugusMinataku: The last line is "Unable to build the vmmon module"02:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dead? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:30
MinatakuBelieve me, ub^Hbotu, I _don't_ think you're intelligent02:30
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killuxcan you get quickbooks on kubuntu02:30
tj__huh? was that directed to me?02:30
Minatakutj__: Ignore it02:30
MinatakuIt's waaaaaaaaaay lagged out02:30
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killuxwhat is quickbooks02:30
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zariliontj__: no change:(02:31
tj__hey minataku is that a private message that you sent or ???02:31
SolifugusMinataku: The error in compilation seems to be three lines, similar to this error: /tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/./include/compat_kernel.h:21: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before compat_exit02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnucash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
tj__well do this02:31
Minatakutj__: If you're using XChat, messages are in red when your nickname is in them02:31
tj__sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg02:31
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tj__that will get you back to basics at least02:31
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tj__start fresh02:31
tj__oh ok02:32
klobsterkillux: ? no quickbooks for linux, gnucash is similar or kmymoney02:32
tj__thought it was a private or something lol02:32
MinatakuJust a feature02:32
killuxklobster: can you emulate it?02:32
tj__thats actually good especially with all the text rolling out on here02:33
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SolifugusMaybe I will need to re-install the older version of kubuntu... and say good bye to fiesty fawn.02:33
klobsterkillux: ^^ see above02:34
klobstererp over 20 sec lag02:34
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zariliontj__: what now? pretty new to all the command stuff:P02:34
tininhow do i instal a lot of packages that i have inside a folder please?02:34
Minataku!it | don02:35
ubotudon: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:35
tj__well if you did all that sucessfully start x02:35
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tj__dpkg -i<then select all and drag to command line> at least thats the way i do it ;)02:35
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klobstertinin: right click on said package, choose actions - install02:36
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jaevelis there a way to check if my kernel and nvidia driver are the same version?02:36
tininthey are a lot of compiz git packages02:36
tinintj__ i'll try that02:37
tj__well why not use the repository the just apt-get compiz etc.... i use trevinos repo and just apt-get beryl everything else needed installs on its own02:37
tj__last time i donwloaded all the packages from there then did the install for all and wow a a nightmare for cleanup that was hrhehehe02:38
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Zeelotis there a way to play a sound from the console?02:38
Minataku!info sox02:38
tj__ohhh good question that would be nice!!!02:39
ubotusox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.18.2-1 (feisty), package size 323 kB, installed size 748 kB02:39
MinatakuTry that02:39
SolifugusZeelot: I sometimes fart in my chair, while at the console.. that works..02:39
MinatakuIt should provide a "play" command02:39
tinintj__ i use that repo too, but i wanted to test compiz git with this: http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/xtra-debs/compiz-compcomm+git20070510-3v1test.tar.gz02:39
ZeelotMinataku: thanks02:39
tinincopy paste worked thanx02:39
tinini hope compiz too02:40
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MinatakuZeelot: np02:40
SolifugusZeelot: (sorry.. i am having a bad day today)02:40
tj__well thats cool02:40
tj__but those are all the core files you get when you apt-get compiz or something like beryl... when i do beryl it gives me emrerald, the kde controller etc... that package is for all the different parts you COULD need but many are useless depending on what "Buntu" youre using02:41
zariliontj__: when i do the sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg i get the message: dpkg: unknown command --reconfigure02:41
tj__lol opps sorry02:42
tinintj__ kubuntu, and beryl/compiz sux here, so i'm always looking something new and better02:43
tj__thanks zeelot was not thinking when i typoed that.....02:43
tj__wow wish i could let you see mine in action......02:43
tj__toned down the things not needed and rmaped up everything else.... works so fluid like and at my spped its nice02:44
Zeelotmine runs good exept videos with mplayer open up with 3 times the width they should for some reason...02:44
tj__but ok regardless (rabbit trail) try that package but be carefull al LOT of packages in there will not work with each other02:44
ZeelotI have to resize, drag resize, drag resize02:45
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tj__hmmmmm  see with Automatix, then trevinos repo etc etc... aka the things everyone stays away from because they dont work> works great for me....  and all this wilth no probs on a DELL LAPTOP  ;)02:45
zariliontrying again then:P02:45
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jaevelcan someone help me figure out why my nvidia-glx driver is not working?02:46
MinatakuWell, either way02:47
tj__see all previous conversation with zarlion....  whats going on02:47
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:47
tj__ok that bot gets annoying FAST!02:47
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.02:47
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MinatakuKeep those both in mind, tj__02:47
j1tterscan anyone tell me how to mount a usb drive?02:47
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MinatakuIf you're gonna push Automatix I may ask you be removed from the channel02:48
tj__no i was commenting on how someone said that their beryl on kubuntu messed up and i.... ok whatever no pushing anything02:48
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zariliontj__: got it up now.. but cant get better resolution than 1024x768:P02:49
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tj__well its a generic driver running right now......02:49
dragonfly7What file extension means it is a MPEG1 file?02:49
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tj__you could always go the long way..... my PREFRENCE let me repeat for clairty to thers PREFRENCE would then to be using the nvidia install02:50
Minatakudragonfly7: You don't need to give it one at all02:50
MinatakuBut yeah, .mpg is a good choice02:50
jaevelok, i had the driver working, then i installed the newest driver and that killed it. so ive been trying to get it back to the original kernel and driver for the last few days....02:51
dragonfly7So if I had a program convert it to MPEG, and saved it as *.mpeg, I can just change it to *.mpg and it will be recognized as such by other programs? I am trying to create a video CD and k3b did not recognize it.02:51
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Minatakudragonfly7: It has to be a specific format of MPEG for a VideoCD02:52
MinatakuIt has to be a certain resolution, bitrate, etc02:52
dragonfly7I am using avidemux, do you know anything about it?02:52
MinatakuIf you saw the file in k3b and it rejected it, changing the extension won't help, the file is encoded wrong02:53
MinatakuNot a thing, sorry02:53
dragonfly7Ok, will I guess I will play around with these other formats.02:53
j1ttersmount ? anyone?02:53
dragonfly7Does MPEG PS A+V sound right?02:53
zariliontj__: the last line of questions from me:P how do i install the proper nvidia drivers so i dont get this f*** up again?02:54
Minatakudragonfly7: Look up VideoCD on Google02:54
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MinatakuAnd get the correct setup for a VCD friendly video file02:54
MinatakuThen when you encode the file, use those settings02:54
klobsterj1tters: what version of kubuntu are you running?02:54
underdog5004I'm just starting on shell scripting, and I was wondering if anyone would take a look at this and tell me that it's ok?        http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/22248/02:55
Minatakuunderdog5004: Well, does it run?02:55
MinatakuIf it runs and does what it's supposed to, it's okay. If not, then it's not. ;302:55
tj__zarilion you can used the nvidia installer off nvidia website just make sure you have your kernel sources so it can compile a driver for your kernel or you could use the program that no one mentions its up to you... i have to log off my nx session and get out of work... will be home shortly and log back in if youre still here and need help ill be back in like 25 mins02:56
underdog5004Minataku, lol, I just wanted to make sure it's not gonna bork my system when I do run it02:56
underdog5004low chance, I know02:56
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Minatakuunderdog5004: Well, that's why you don't write crap that could be dangerous when you're just starting :302:56
SolifugusVersion 6.06 Dapper was the one just before feisty fawn, right?02:56
underdog5004I guess...02:56
tj__6.10 wasnt it?02:57
zariliontj__: thanks for all your help:) ill try and get back to you if i fuck it up:P02:57
tj__if you dont have the right stuff the nvidia wont work anyways02:57
Solifugustj__: I am seeing 6.06.1 at http://ftp.wwc.edu/pub/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/dapper/02:57
tj__if it does succed02:57
SolifugusI need to revert to the older kubuntu, so I can get vmware-server working.02:58
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tj__it most likely will work02:58
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SolifugusI know it works on the older version, cause i had it working before...02:58
SolifugusOr.. I could wipe out my second hard disk and put windows xp on it.02:59
tj__yeah tlook at the directory your in the one FOR dapper that was 6.06 then edgy eft 6.10 i think thien feisty02:59
tj__ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NO XP02:59
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Solifugustj__: I need to do visual studio programming for me work... that's why i need the stinking vmware working..03:00
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Solifugusit's sad.. i really like feisty fawn03:00
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tj__i use vmware workstation... you could try innotex virtual box it works really well to (at least for me)03:00
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tj__solifugus i must admit i  bought vmware workstation.... my cell phone (go figure) and my video software (Vegas) just could not run under wine and no equiv. on linux03:02
tj__ok gotta run cant stay at work anyomre ahhhh lol03:03
CraZy675I've updated using Adept Updater to 7.04 from 6.10 now k3b, xine, vlc, adept don't seem to be working.  Starting with Adept I get the following error message:03:03
CraZy675its not able to commit the changes03:03
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poltohello all03:18
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generic_noob01Does anyone here have time to answer a quick question for me?03:20
phisrowI'll do my best.03:20
generic_noob01Is there anyway to get sound blaster x-fi fatal1ty xtremegamer profess1onal to work with kubuntu?03:20
generic_noob01There currently is no official support for it03:20
poltocan sb help me? I'm doing a customized version of kubuntu LiveDVD. things are going well but i have a little question. How can i show partitions and not mounted disks on the KDE desktop ?03:20
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sayers_Are there any tools that will record my mouse movement and clicks so it can repeat somthing03:22
K-RyanGuess who!03:22
phisrowIf there is some way to get an x-fi working at the moment, I don't know what they are.03:22
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klobsterpolto: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-239981.html03:23
phisrowI know creative plans on doing something about that(probably a ghastly binary thing); but no dice as yet(so far as I know).03:23
generic_noob01ok :/03:23
orlosayers - there must be a way to trap it03:23
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generic_noob01klobster gave me a link that seems relevant03:24
KanRiNiNHey, I unplugged my usb hard drive and it unmounted.  Is there a way to make it automount03:24
generic_noob01I guess i'll stay with xp until creative releases that driver03:25
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generic_noob01My onboard soundcard doesn't work03:26
generic_noob01Thanks for all the help03:26
klobsteroops, I must have addressed that to the wrong person, sorry.  Check the ALSA boards, maybe try the current driver?03:27
poltoklobster, do you have some link for me ?03:27
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klobsterpolto: I'm researching for you now.  I assume these partitions are already mounted (not usb, or firewire)?03:28
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ismailhi all03:28
klobstergeneric_noob01: try the liveCD and see how it runs, it won't cvhange your system03:28
ismailim having troube making beryl work properly03:28
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ismailemerald doesnt work03:29
klobsterismail: Nvidia, or ATI?03:29
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klobsterberyl is running?03:29
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ismailthe engin is runing03:29
ismailbut the decoration is not there03:29
ismailit disapear03:30
generic_noob01Card delivered to developers. Completely new architecture. Creative actively preventing support due to no datasheets being released to ALSA developers. Reverse engineering work not started due to lack of time.03:30
poltoklobster, no . if i connect a flash it mount it and show it on the Desktop, but how to show linux and windows partitions of my computer from liveDVD on the Desktop ?03:30
klobsterright click on the beryl ruby and tell me what window managers and window decorators are selected.03:31
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generic_noob01Oh well, I guess i'll be back when new drivers come out or when i change my computer03:31
ismailand emerald03:31
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klobstergeneric_noob01: try the liveCD and see how it runs, it won't cvhange your system03:32
draikAnyone here know how to get the Firefox plugin of DivX?03:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:32
klobsterismail: it did this to me, let's see.03:32
klobsterismail: give me a sec.03:32
ismailwait in the konsol i get this03:33
klobsterpolto: and you are building a custom DVD?03:33
ismailNo GLXFBConfig for depth 3203:33
ismailberyl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3203:33
klobsterismail: when doing what?03:33
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K-RyanHey guys, earlier on I had opened up KInfoCenter and checked the Memory tab03:35
K-RyanIt says I have 0 kb of Swap03:35
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K-RyanBut in the Partitions tab my Swap partition DOES show up03:35
ismailwhen i run beryl from the konsol03:36
K-RyanHow can I fix?03:36
poltoklobster,  yes sorry i was out of my computer.03:37
klobsterpolto: you are building a custom DVD?03:37
poltoklobster, yes i did.03:37
klobsterdid or are planning to?03:38
poltoit work, i just need to show not mounted disks on the desktop03:38
K-RyanAnyone know what to do about my swap?03:39
klobsterpolto: I am afraid I don't quite understand what you are meaning03:39
klobsterk-ryan do they show up under partitions03:40
K-RyanYeah the partition shows there03:40
aroo  Does anyone know why someone on my friends list can't read my Canna characters that I input with SCIM, but he can receive them from others?03:41
rubyatK-Ryan: tried the swapon command?03:41
klobsterwhat does it say about your swap(s) in partitions?03:41
K-RyanDon't know how to use it03:41
poltoklobster, i have my modified DVD, it boot work etc... but: my goal now is to show computer's windows and linux partitions on the desktop to give the user the possibility to mount it by a simple click.03:41
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K-RyanThe only thing it notes is the mount options are "sw"03:42
K-RyanBtw, its on an ext3 partition03:42
K-RyanNo I lied03:42
K-Ryanit's swap03:42
K-RyanI mixed it up =)03:42
MinatakuAw, crap03:42
tj__zarilion  so did any of that work for you?03:42
K-RyanBe right back...03:42
MinatakuI think BOTH drives in my Ultra 10 are bad :(03:42
klobsterpolto: why not automount them before hand?03:43
MinatakuOh well, they came with it and it uses IDE03:43
MinatakuNo real big problem03:43
MinatakuAnnoying but not fatal.03:43
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poltoklobster, it's an idea ..  but how to automount all partitions on boot ?03:43
Minatakupolto: Put them all in fstab03:43
MinatakuMake sure they're all available when you boot the system03:44
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MinatakuDon't specify "noauto" as an option in fstab03:44
klobsterk-ryan: what does mount point and fs type say?03:44
poltoklobster, it's a LiveDVD , can boot on different computers. and i need to automount all partitions on any computer.03:44
klobsteryeah, that won't put them on the desktop, but a simple script in etc should do it03:45
phisrowPolto: You might have luck asking the Knoppix people and/or power users.03:45
phisrowThey are also debian based, and know how to do what you want to do.03:45
klobsterpolto: I agree #knoppix might be your best bet03:46
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blackvdSo I installed flash plugin with firefox32 following the how to in the forums on a 64 bit machine. Flash seems to work about half the time the other half of the time the browser locks ups(turns grey when running beryl) Anyone else have this problem?03:47
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tj__blackvd same here but 32 bit system does it with java too03:48
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blackvdtj_ find a fix for flash yet?03:48
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tj__noi just kill it and start over... its annoying especially when your screen fades to grey (beryl) and just sits there.....  i have a button on my desktop to kill firefox in that case... i know its a cheat but just faster and only does it ever couple of days so not often enough to dig deep and figure out lol03:50
blackvdtj_ mine seems to crash on almost every flash video i try to watch03:51
tj__my main concern is java plugin..... cant have just the plugin have to have the hwole java system and then link the plugin so it locks up on 1 website that i use a lot but never on any others..... but if i go with just the plug-in by itself logmein wont work....03:52
tj__on every flash?03:52
tj__hmmmm  uninstall and re-install?03:52
Xbehavedo /tmp and /var get preserverd across a boot?03:52
blackvdanyone tried out flock in here for 64?03:54
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K-Ryanklobster: none and swap04:02
K-Ryanhi zblack04:02
zblachhow's it going?04:02
K-Ryansorry =P04:02
K-RyanGood, you?04:02
zblach's cool. that's how it's pronounced04:03
zblachi'm alright04:03
K-RyanHaving trouble with something or just here to hang?04:03
BluesKajevening greekists :)04:03
zblach'cept for this nagging problem with kaddprinterwizard04:03
MinatakuThe videocard in my Ultra 1 is bad04:03
K-RyanHi BluesKaj04:03
MinatakuWhite appears as "piss yellow"04:03
pulaskithanks K-Ryan and everyone who helped me, g'night04:03
MinatakuThat's definitely not correct04:03
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K-RyanNight pulaski04:03
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BluesKajhey K-Ryan...lotsa support this evening ?04:04
BluesKajhi Minataku04:04
K-RyanNot too much today, everyone seemed to have oddball problems.04:04
MinatakuHeya, BluesKaj04:04
hitmanWillyhowdy all04:04
K-RyanHey there hitmanWilly04:05
Minatakulo, hitmanWilly04:05
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K-RyanHey guys I was trying to fix this earlier with klobster but he doesn't seem to be there right now, my swap isn't working.04:05
K-RyanIn KInfoCenter under memory I have no swap04:06
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: did you try swapon?04:06
K-RyanhitmanWilly: What do I do with that?04:06
phisrowYour fstab ok?04:06
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K-RyanDon't know04:06
BluesKajhate them strange fixes..still on the learning curve , myself ... but this room is just great , full of helpful info .04:06
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: swapon </dev/swap_partition>04:06
K-RyanIn partitions it says it isn't mounted04:06
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orlok-ryan   what does    free    give04:06
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: try the swapon04:07
K-Ryanorlo: What?04:07
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: swap partitions aren't mounted in the traditional sense04:07
K-RyanhitmanWilly: swap_partition in that string represents what?04:07
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: the device where your swap partion is located, ie hda204:08
K-Ryanerr, where do I find that?04:08
K-RyanI'm not sure which it was04:08
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: sudo fdisk -l04:08
BluesKajbasically swaps slaves04:08
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: look for the device that says something about swap04:09
K-Ryangot it04:09
K-RyanIt worked04:09
K-RyanHow big of an improvement is that going to be on my system?04:09
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: that'll only work for this session, you need to fix fstab04:09
orloif you have to use swap it will slow things down :)04:10
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: sudo nano /etc/fstab04:10
BluesKajberyl loves swap04:10
K-RyanWhat do I edit in here?04:11
K-RyanErr, add...04:11
orloBluesKaj - so is  that why beryl is  so slow?04:11
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K-Ryanorlo: Do you have the drivers for your graphics card? Is your graphics card an Ati?04:12
Xbehavedoes temp get wiped on reboot? or is it persistent?04:12
BluesKajcould be04:12
orloK-ryan lol04:12
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: see if it has anything listed as a swap partition04:12
K-Ryanwell I see the "UUID=blahblahblah none swap sw 0 0"04:13
K-Ryanwhich is what was in KINfoCenter04:13
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: the uuid is probably messed up, try changing that to the device name04:13
zblachbetter yet04:14
zblachopen a console and type04:14
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: ie the same device you just swaped on04:14
K-RyanAll the UUID's listed are =<insert numbers and letters>04:14
zblachsudo vol_id -u $DEVICE04:14
zblachthat'll spit out the correct uuid04:14
K-Ryanwhat exactly do i change to the /dev/sdb3 ?04:14
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: the UUID=<big string of stuff>04:15
K-Ryanchange it to UUID=/dev/sdb3 ?04:15
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan:just /dev/sdb304:15
K-RyanNo UUID?04:15
hitmanWillyno UUID req'd04:15
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orloK-Ryan is a gentoo troll you guys04:15
K-RyanI've never used gentoo04:15
underdog5004Minataku, remember that script I wanted you to take a look at? here's the address: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/22252/ . I get this error when I try to run it:     cp: omitting directory `/home/matthew/rtorrent/'04:15
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zblachthanks for that constructive input04:16
underdog5004why is it omitting that directory?04:16
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K-RyanhitmanWilly: That's it?04:16
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: yup04:16
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: to test it, swapoff /dev/sda304:16
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: then sudo mount -a04:17
underdog5004hitmanWilly, I gave it a shot as well...it was really confusing for me.04:17
underdog5004more like, hard to understand.04:17
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K-Ryanit gave an invalid argument04:17
orloi love the comedy here - but why not see if he really has swap on  with typing       free04:17
K-Ryanorlo: My swap IS on04:17
K-RyanWe turned it on -.-04:17
underdog5004hitmanWilly, awesome. Choice of distro ultimately comes down to _personal_ _choice_04:18
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: swapoff -a04:18
urlialguien habla espaol04:18
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: then sudo mount -a04:18
K-Ryan!es | urli04:18
ubotuurli: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:18
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orloyou have the correct entry in /etc/fstab what makes you think that you didn't have swap to begin with04:18
urlihola alguien04:18
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:18
K-RyanHablan espanol en #kubuntu-es04:19
K-Ryanorlo, it wasn't on because in KInfoCenter, it showed 0, that's ZERO, swap memory04:19
orlo0 swap memory being used?04:19
K-RyanTotal swap memory04:19
K-RyanThe whole box just greyed out04:19
K-RyanI'm not an idiot04:19
hitmanWillyorlo: also, it wouldn't have let him swapon if it was already on, would give a device busy error04:19
K-RyanhitmanWilly: mount -a worked04:20
K-Ryanbut swap didn't turn on04:20
K-RyanI'll return to the matter tomorrow, I've gotta go04:20
orloback to gentoo04:20
K-RyanThanks for the help hitmanWilly04:20
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: that's weird, but ok04:20
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hitmanWillymore than likely anfstab error04:20
orlothey run when you expose them04:20
K-RyanDude I come in here every day04:21
K-RyanSo I look forward to seeing everyone else tomorrow, except you orlo04:21
K-RyanGood night(everyone except orlo)04:21
orlowith pre-newbie problems about swap?04:21
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K-RyanI'm not going to argue, this is stupid04:21
orloif you installed kubuntu - swap is set up automatically - no?04:21
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zblachusually, but there are problems sometimes04:22
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artabrahaohi, the vncviewer works fine in ubuntu, but when I type vncserver appears command not fount. What can it be?04:22
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rikanferalwhat is the kde screenshot app called?04:22
hitmanWillyorlo: #kubuntu is linux for newbies...at least that's what the powers that be would have one believe04:22
zblachrikanferal: kscreenshot04:22
underdog5004yay!!!!!! I figured it out! cp needs the -r flag to copy directories!04:22
zblachmy bad04:23
orlounderdog  - or -a04:23
underdog5004-a == all?04:23
orloit preserves permissions and ownership04:23
maltaethironis there any way to change key bindings for kubuntu?  for example, i have a Function key that lets me turn the volume up and down with the page up and page down buttons in windows.04:24
zblachmaltaethiron: laptop?04:24
maltaethironyes zblach04:24
orlogreat for copying a dir that contains . files - everything is copied intact  cp -a /dir1 /dir/   all of dir1 is copied into dir04:24
zblachxbindkeys may be what you're looking for04:24
maltaethironis that a package?04:25
sayers_what does the varialbe -f do in apt-get install -f?04:25
maltaethironubotu die?04:25
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hitmanWillysayers_: fixes (supposedly) dependencies iirc04:25
sayers_Oh yes04:25
sayers_I forgot04:25
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MinatakuThe bot is having serious issues tonight04:26
maltaethironYeah looks like it, poor buddy04:26
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hitmanWillyany serious netsplits lately, sometimes that screws with it04:26
artabrahaohi, the vncviewer works fine in ubuntu, but when I type vncserver appears command not fount. What can it be?04:26
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MinatakuIt'll come back as ubotwo in a couple minutes and dump everything it's heard since it farted out again04:26
maltaethironim scared for that, lol04:27
zblachha. ubotwo04:27
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zblachi can't remember what I need to access printers on my networked windows machine04:28
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zblachkaddprinterwizard is on the fritz04:29
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thumperhow do I get kubuntu starting with beryl rather than KWin?04:34
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hitmanWillythumper: ln beryl in ~/.kde/Autostart04:35
thumperhitmanWilly: thanks, do I need beryl-manager too?04:35
thumperor is beryl sufficient by itself?04:36
Jucato!beryl | thumper04:36
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Jucatothere's a guide in the #ubuntu-effects channel04:36
hitmanWillythumper: it helps, but it's not req'd04:36
Jucatobot's on coffee break?04:36
thumperJucato: thanks04:36
druntarmust be04:36
druntarI'm trying to figure out how to access my ntfs partition from linux04:36
hitmanWillyubotu is dead...04:36
hitmanWillydruntar: research ntfs-3g04:37
druntarI have installed it and am trying to use it's usage instructions from the website but I guess I'm just stupid lol or doing something wrong04:37
orlohitmanWilly announcing ubotu is  dead  ..... suspicious :)04:37
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hitmanWillydruntar: just mount them as type ntfs-3g04:38
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hitmanWillydruntar: it installs its own fs type definition04:38
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hitmanWillydruntar: are you familiar with the mount cmd?04:39
druntarno I'm new to linux but I used the usage command right off the website and am getting04:39
druntarFailed to access '/dev/hda1': No such file or directory04:39
zblachdruntar: do you know if you have a sata drive?04:39
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hitmanWillydruntar: are you using sata drives?04:40
druntarit is sata04:40
zblach /dev/sda104:40
druntaroh ok04:40
hitmanWillydruntar: the /dev/hda1 is just an example...04:40
hitmanWillydruntar: that'll change depending on the drive/partition...04:40
druntarhmm well it found the device this time but gave me this error instead04:41
hitmanWillywrong fs type, right?04:41
druntarfusermount: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/windows: No such file or directory04:41
druntarFUSE mount point creation failed04:41
druntarUnmounting /dev/sda1 (Core)04:41
hitmanWillydruntar: run sudo fdisk -l04:42
druntarok done04:43
hitmanWillydruntar: see what the actual device name for your ntfs partition is04:43
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druntarok the windows part is /dev/sda104:44
hitmanWillydruntar: the type will be all the way on the right, device name on the left04:44
zblachis cups accessible at localhost:631?04:44
hitmanWillydruntar: try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 </mount/point>04:45
hitmanWillydruntar: or is that what you're doing already?04:45
druntarpretty much04:45
druntarI don't know what the mount point is though04:46
hitmanWillydruntar: wherever you want the drive to mount to, ie /mnt/windows04:46
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druntarbut the folder has to be there right?04:47
yurimxpxmanI just installed Gnash, but the plugin doesn't show up in Konqueror or Firefox. What's the deal with that?04:47
hitmanWillydruntar: yes, just mkdir it04:47
druntarthere it wen04:48
druntarthank you hintman04:48
druntarjesus I wish I could type tonight04:49
MinatakuHintman... that's pretty clever, at least XD04:49
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yurimxpxmandoes anybody in here know about my gnash problem?04:50
urli_alguien habla espaol04:50
Minataku!es | urli_04:50
MinatakuOh yeah04:50
urli_alguien habla espaol04:50
urli_alguien habla espaol04:50
urli_alguien habla espaol04:50
urli_alguien habla espaol04:50
urli_alguien habla espaol04:50
urli_alguien habla espaol04:50
Minatakuurli_: #kubuntu-es04:50
urli_alguien habla espaol04:50
urli_alguien habla espaol04:50
MinatakuNow shut the hell up, asswad04:50
orlothere is a #gnash04:51
maltaethironubotwo back up yet?04:51
MinatakuThe bot is completely retarded tonight04:51
orlogentooed you mean?04:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xbindkeys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
MinatakuWatch it, orlo04:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about die? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
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orloThe bot is gentooed04:52
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ubotuthumper: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:52
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is dead... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:52
Minatakuorlo: If it was Gentoo'd, it be working faster than usual04:52
orloyurimxpxman - there is  a #gnash channel04:52
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MinatakuIt'd give you the info BEFORE you had to ask for it04:52
yurimxpxmanorlo: nobody's responded in there, either :(04:52
yurimxpxmandoes anybody know where I can download the source code to w?04:53
ubotuurli_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:53
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orlois gnash close to bash? that is a lively channl04:53
MinatakuOh, shut up, you stupid bot04:53
arooWhat is the KDE equivalent of Windows "charmap"04:53
Minatakuaroo: There's a GTK-based one04:54
Minataku!info charmap04:54
ubotuPackage charmap does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:54
Minataku!info gcharmap04:54
Jucatoaroo: kcharselect04:54
MinatakuOr that04:54
ubotuPackage gcharmap does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:54
yurimxpxmanorlo: gnash is the GNU Flash player04:54
druntardidn't expect that to work04:54
MinatakuDon't use the GNU Flash Player04:54
MinatakuIt's useless04:55
orlohaha - shame is on me04:55
druntarjust out of curiosity I went to my World of warcraft folder and clicked the .exe and the game started04:55
hitmanWillyorlo: its an open source hack on flash...and it sucks04:55
hitmanWillyorlo: but you knew that :)04:55
orlono i didn't - i do now04:55
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hakaisoubesides, there are enough methods for installing adobe flash 9 that it's pointless to use an alternative04:56
MinatakuSorry, I got a bit short in the past couple minutes XD04:56
MinatakuBut yeah, gnash is completely useless04:56
hitmanWillyhakaisou: unless you're an idealogical purist...aka RMS04:56
MinatakuIgnore the idiotic "don't use restricted formats" argument in this case04:57
orloash bash ... gnash - i thought ..?04:57
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MinatakuWhen you're not the one choosing the format, you obviously have no choice04:57
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hakaisouhitmanWilly:  what?  Minataku:  yea, in this and a few others04:57
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MinatakuSo yeah, when it comes to Flash, there's no "don't use restricted formats" argument04:57
MinatakuYou're gonna need the real Flash player or you're SOL04:58
RadiantFireMinataku: it works for some stuff04:58
hitmanWillyhakaisou: RMS==Richard Stallman, founder of the GNU project and all around nuisance04:58
RadiantFireMinataku: I can actually get some older flash sites to work in it04:58
orlowould the real flash run under wine or xen?04:58
RadiantFireorlo: real flash is available for linux04:58
MinatakuJust don't bother with it in the first place, RadiantFire.04:58
RadiantFireorlo: flashplugin-nonfree04:58
MinatakuIt's not worth it.04:58
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hakaisouah, ok i see hitmanWilly05:00
hakaisoui thought you were calling me one, was very confused05:00
hitmanWillyhakaisou: no :)05:00
hakaisouway I see it, if it works, i'll use it05:01
MinatakuHey now, without RMS, we'd all still be using Windows05:01
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hakaisouif there is a free alternative that works, I'll use that too if i feel like it05:01
MinatakuMaybe FreeBSD, but BSD had a lot of issues in it's early days05:01
MinatakuAnd even there, GNU tools play a sizeable part05:01
hakaisoukind of why i'm a beta for Crossover05:01
hakaisouthey support stuff that wine doesn't so much05:01
hitmanWillyMinataku: yes, but he's becoming more of a hinderance than an asset these days, imho05:01
hakaisouand the nightly builds are free05:02
hakaisouwhich reminds me05:02
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Eh. Just don't listen to him. :305:02
hitmanWillyi don't :)05:02
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MinatakuhitmanWilly: He does have some stupid ideas, but then he is still good for pointing things out, like ATI's anticonsumerism05:03
hitmanWillyMinataku: problem is, the media tend to go to him for all things linux related, and he makes us all look like crazy nutcases05:04
hitmanWillyand i am SO offtopic right now...05:05
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orlohitmanWilly - the off topicis good reading until someone with a problem comes in :)05:07
BluesKajMinataku, ATI's anti linux consumerismm...a bit of paradox :)05:07
hakaisouATI:  Half decent products...  full terrible customer service05:08
hitmanWillythat appears to be changing what with AMD buying them out and all05:08
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hakaisouhitmanWilly:  Here's to hoping05:08
underdog5004same here05:08
MinatakuYou need to hope two things05:09
orloi'll bet the linux ati driver gets good05:09
MinatakuOne that AMD changes ATI05:09
MinatakuAnd one that AMD doesn't go under05:09
druntarhow can I make my self root while using a program05:09
hakaisouAMD won't go under05:09
hakaisoukdesu (program) (argumnets)05:09
Jucato!sudo | druntar05:09
ubotudruntar: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:09
hakaisoubut yea05:09
druntarI mean once I'm already running the program05:10
hakaisouyou can't05:10
druntaroh so I have to start over ok05:10
hakaisouyou have to start the program in SU mode05:10
druntarthank you05:10
hakaisouone thing05:10
Jucatodruntar: not unless the program has a function that lets you do it, like some part of system settings (administrator mode)05:10
orlosudo -i05:10
hakaisoutry to only use sudo for programs that stay inside the terminal, and kdesu for stuff that will launch outside it05:10
druntaroh ok05:11
druntarI'm trying to set it up so it always mounts my ntfs05:11
hakaisoui was told once that if you use sudo with a launched program, it can cause issues05:11
druntarto do that I have to edit /etc/fstab05:11
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hakaisouwake up ubotu!05:11
ulmolavenderwoa, alt-f5!05:12
hakaisoualt f7 will save ya05:12
hakaisoubut they are kinda cool05:12
hakaisouoh hey, i didn't know about that one05:13
hakaisoui thought that was one of the "full screen terminal" commands05:13
MinatakuYou can switch to the VTs from X using Ctrl+Alt+Fn05:13
MinatakuWhere n is typically an integer from 1 to 605:13
Jucatohe was talking about something else05:13
hakaisouand revert back to05:14
hakaisouX with F705:14
MinatakuWhen you're at a VT, you can simply switch with just Alt+Fn05:14
MinatakuCorrect, Alt+F7 for X05:14
JucatoShow Window List in KDE05:14
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hakaisouyou know what irritates me?05:14
hakaisouSoundblaster Audigy 2 series05:15
Minatakuhakaisou: Caustic chemicals?05:15
MinatakuCaustic chemicals irritate me05:15
hakaisouevery single variant is supported05:15
underdog5004lemon juice in your eyes?05:15
hakaisouEXCEPt the plain vanilla Audigy 2 ZS05:15
MinatakuThen I have to wash them off so they'll stop irritating me05:15
hakaisouMinataku: don't forget to neutralize the acid first05:16
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MinatakuIt can be a base, too05:16
MinatakuI remember in chem lab, one of my lab partners spills H2SO4 and tries to clean it up with a paper towel05:16
hakaisouok then neutralize tha base too...05:16
MinatakuI told him to stop then grabbed the baking soda05:16
hakaisoujerk, ruined my Fight Club refrence XD05:17
MinatakuSorry >.>05:17
hakaisouit's cool05:17
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raffytaffyhello is it me or is anyone else finding the repos SLOW tonight05:18
hakaisouwouldn't know, haven't installed anything yet05:19
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hakaisoudon't plan on it either05:19
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hakaisoui'm actually going to get some sleep for once :D05:19
raffytaffyim trying to d/l xmms ..its not a big package. ETA 42 mins. im on 15mb down cable lol05:20
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raffytaffyyeah i know. usually takes a few seconds05:20
dandi040jest tam arti040??05:21
raffytaffyi already have xmms, but i wanna recompile some packages. i set the cflags to k8 and figured i would start off with xmms05:21
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cvill64hello, I'm googling, but cannot find how to add ssh to automatically start up by default, could anybody send me to a tutorial or program, etc05:27
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blackvdSo i followed ever guide for getting flash working on a 64 bit machine with firefox but every time i load a flash video my browser turns grey(using beryl) Any one been able to solve this problem?05:28
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blackvdcvill64 I'm probably way off on this but there's ~/.kde/Autostart05:31
Minatakucvill64: You want to add sshd to the default runlevel05:31
cvill64current Minataku, however I don't know how to do that in kubuntu05:31
MinatakuNeither do I05:32
MinatakuI use Gentoo05:32
cvill64lol, same here for the most part :/05:32
MinatakuWell, in order of precedence, Gentoo Linux/i686, Debian Linux/i586, Sun Solaris/SPARC05:32
cvill64desktop - gentoo, lappy - kubuntu05:33
MinatakuThere's also A/UX in there, but I don't use that very often at all05:33
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BluesKajso Minataku, who do ya luv ...(k)ubuntu or gentoo ?05:33
cvill64well, at the same rate, anybody know how to get sound out of a audigy 2 zs on the amd64 arch ?05:34
MinatakuPiyoko runs Gentoo, Mahoro runs Debian, Dejiko and Haruko run Solaris 2.6, ULTRA2 runs Solaris 2.8, Sasuke runs A/UX 3.1.1, Usada runs NeXTSTEP/risc 3.305:34
MinatakuBluesKaj: Gentoo05:34
MinatakuI've got more computers but for the sake of my fingers and/or they don't currently run anything, are unlisted05:35
BluesKajthen, may I ask...why are you here ? :)05:35
MinatakuBluesKaj: To help with general Linux issues05:35
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MinatakuOnes that aren't Kubuntu-specific05:35
cvill64and there are many linux users that use more than one type of distro?05:35
BluesKajgeneral linux issues .... heh05:35
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MinatakuI've got some 20 computers05:35
MinatakuI need to rebuild my list, a couple were deemed unusable after testing05:36
RadiantFiremmm... solaris05:36
BluesKajadmin eh05:36
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MinatakuBluesKaj: Collector05:36
MinatakuRight now I have a Sun Ultra 1 idling away, doing nothing05:37
BluesKajerrr, Minataku ...i wont ask05:37
MinatakuSitting under a Macintosh Classic05:37
MinatakuAtop my Sun Ultra 2, a 64bit SMP machine05:37
Minataku2x UltraSPARC-I @ 168MHz :D05:38
BluesKajmy band mate has 22 guitars ...i think I get it05:38
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MinatakuWhich will probably be upgraded to 2x UltraSPARC-II @ 300MHz05:38
MinatakuIf it'll take them, don't know yet05:39
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ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter05:39
MinatakuShut up, you05:39
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Minatakuneptunepink, jupiterorange... uranusbrown05:39
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druntarlol it just now responded to you?05:40
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MinatakuIt's been buggered up all day05:40
MinatakuWell, all evening, at least05:40
administrator_hi people :)05:41
druntaranyone here know anything about wine?05:41
druntarI'm wanting to get WoW running in linux05:41
administrator_wini is sucks05:41
BluesKaj<---- one complete Ludwig rock drumkit..one star snare and pastiche hihat for garage gigging and a pr of congas...keeps me busy on weekends :)05:41
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MinatakuI play around with all my various computers :305:41
cvill64does kubuntu have something simliar to alsaconf ?05:42
MinatakuIt should have alsaconf itself05:42
maltaethironquick question, is pastebin on the fritz?05:42
MinatakuPerhaps it is05:43
MinatakuThe bot is screwed up05:43
MinatakuI've heard complaints that the repos are slow05:43
maltaethirongod, whatever ubotu got, it gave it to pastebin05:43
cvill64Minataku: there is no alsaconf command05:43
cvill64BluesKaj: would you happen to know the command or package to install then ?05:43
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BluesKajcvill64, it's  .asoundrc :http://alsa.opensrc.org/Main_Page05:45
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cvill64hmm...weird. website ain't working for me05:46
hakaisoushoot... forgot to install unrar...05:46
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free05:46
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klobsterI'm back!05:46
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klobsterooh! and ubotu is back too?05:47
MinatakuIn and out05:47
MinatakuMostly out05:47
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khaije1so kubuntu doesn't have socks support by default?05:47
MinatakuSpeaking of out, so am I05:47
MinatakuNight, all05:47
khaije1any reccomendations for which to go with? they seems about the same to me...05:48
BluesKajnite Minataku05:48
hakaisouthe heck?05:48
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hakaisoui installed unrar-free, but ark still won't unrar this archive...05:49
cvill64okay, so basically, kubuntu has nothing similar to alsaconf, as I see no guided configuration tool ???  I need to specify for the os to use the audigy exclusively instead of the other nvidia which is installed05:49
crimsuncvill64: asoundconf set-default-card05:49
crimsuncvill64: pass one of the strings given by asoundconf list05:49
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klobstercrimsun: any idea how to emulate/force 5.1 sound from a stereo file?05:51
hakaisouasoundconf list05:51
crimsunklobster: on what driver?05:51
cvill64does this require a restart crimsun, as I still get no sound after specifying Audigy2 with asoundconf set-default-car Audigy2 (as listed by the list command)05:51
hakaisouthen asoundconf set-default-card (name of the card you want according to the list)05:52
crimsuncvill64: it requires you to log out and back in to KDE.05:52
cvill64ty, brb then05:52
druntarhow can I see how much space is left on my HD?05:53
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free05:53
crimsunklobster: use http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/configs/confirmed/asoundrc.CA0106-upmix05:53
khaije1druntar: df -h05:53
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cvill64interesting, it works, but I still have to respecify the card each time in kmix beforehand05:54
crimsunklobster: i.e., download that file, rename it to ~/.asoundrc , then restart your alsa app(s)05:54
klobstercrimsun, wow, thanks, how did you find that?05:55
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cvill64lol, now to get the keyboard volume keys to work :P05:55
crimsunklobster: we've been building up an asoundrc database for ~2 years05:55
red_why is it that when I manually update the /etc/groups and open a new shell, I still don't see the new group when I execute 'groups'05:55
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klobstercvill64: my volume keys work now, on my belkin wireless...05:55
klobstercrimsun: we?05:56
crimsunklobster: those of us in #alsa , and those of us who maintain ALSA across the various Linux distributions05:56
cvill64using a usb viewsonic atm, the MS wireless works05:56
klobstercrimsun: you rock, I didn't even think there was a solution for that, I just figured I had to find a way to record my mp3's in surround...05:57
klobstercvill64: you can program them in, no?05:58
cvill64yes, you can klobster, just was hoping for autoworking :P05:58
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cvill64wouldn't happen to know flash in amd64 or adding ssh to default services would you ?05:59
crimsuncvill64: for the latter, you need to install openssh-server06:00
cvill64that is installed06:00
crimsunflash9 for amd64 is a bit tricky.06:00
crimsunthen it's already "addedto default services"06:00
klobstercrimsun: where should I place that file for all users' use?06:00
cvill64didn't know it does that06:00
crimsunyes, ls /etc/rc2.d/*ssh*06:01
crimsunklobster: /etc/asound.conf06:01
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cvill64ah, very nice06:01
cvill64you must forgive my ignorance, <-- comes from a gentoo world and is learning the others out there also06:01
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cvill64hmm... crimsun does kmix normally stop working when doing the command you gave me ?06:04
crimsuncvill64: no06:06
raffytaffyive used apt-build to build xmms with k8 clfag. how can i find out if my xmms indeed is k8 and not the default 486?06:06
cvill64okay, just the mute doesn't work06:06
cvill64the sound volume does06:06
cvill64and I'm getting a system sound comming from somewhere.... :P06:06
raffytaffymy updater is also trying to update xmms. even thou its the same version06:06
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raffytaffywill "locking version" prevent updater from updating a package?06:10
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klobsteranyone recommend any good "lurk and learn channels"?06:14
hitmanWillyklobster: maybe ##linux?06:15
orlo#bash is a good channel06:16
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klobsterooh I like bash06:16
boubbinhow to update to the latest kde (3.5.7) ?06:17
orloklobster - you use mplayer?06:17
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Zeelothey guys, could someone remind me how to apply a kde theme?06:19
klobsteronly in firefox06:19
RadiantFireboubbin: there are instructions if you follow the link from the kubunto.org website06:19
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!06:20
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raffytaffywhat does apt-build world do? does it recompile everything?06:22
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MattParryHi Zeelot, do sudo kcontrol then select apperance & themes then theme manager06:23
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MilhousePunkRockMy /var/apt/cache/archives has grown to a size of 3.7 GB. Is it only an archive for the .deb packages I ever downloaded, or is this where Kubuntu actually installs stuff?06:23
dr_willissudo kcontrol would set the theme for the root user - id think.06:23
ZeelotMattParry:  thanks06:23
dr_willisor install them system wide. perhaps06:23
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klobsterorlo: why?06:24
Jordan_UMilhousePunkRock, sudo apt-get clean06:25
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raffytaffyapt-build world . is this safe? lol or will it hose my system06:26
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ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:28
intelikeyhere i am.  on the bug infested ubuntu dapper drake 6.6 LTS system....06:28
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dsmith_how can I increase my partition space?06:29
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cvill64has anybody run accross having a rogue almost "aim-like" sound coming from amd64 but sound notifications are off in all the programs ??06:29
Zeelothmm I got new themes from kde-look but they dont show up when I try to add them in kcontrol?06:29
mokkanhey, so apparently blender 2.44 is in the gutsy repository now06:29
intelikeydsmith_ live CD06:29
intelikeydsmith_ gparted live CD06:29
mokkanhow do i access that from adept?06:29
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dsmith_ooh damn thats right, I did not wvwn think about that one06:30
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dsmith_lol, i have both06:30
dsmith_thx man06:30
dsmith_just upgraded to a larger HD :)06:30
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underdog5004just so everyone knows, I finally perfected my first shell script, which backs up my bit-torrent folder to a backup drive.06:32
intelikeycvill64 i wouldn't know what an aim sound was...06:33
intelikeyunderdog5004 is it open source ?    pastebin it, we might all benifit from it.06:34
cvill64lol, damn college roomates will teach you :p06:34
cvill64actually I think it was a "power" problem with a fan plugged into the surge protector....weird one06:34
underdog5004intelikey, no, but I'm selling licenses!06:36
underdog5004ha ha ha06:36
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intelikeyunderdog5004 heh  yeah     count me out.   :)06:37
MilhousePunkRockJordan_U: Great, that's shrunk it from 3.something GB to 35 MB! Thanks for the hint06:37
intelikeyno i meant, was it open source as opposed to having personal data embeded in it...06:37
underdog5004not too portable though...I'm going to learn variables next06:38
underdog5004nope, no personal data06:38
underdog5004except my first name...06:38
intelikeyvar's are easy.  array's are where it gets interesting.06:38
underdog5004I know how to do arrays in C++...is it similar?06:39
MilhousePunkRockOK, looking at Konqueror's file size view (a nice feature, by the way), the next big players are kern.log and syslog... Do they have to be about 1 GB each?06:39
intelikeyvar=(are easy arrays are where it gets interesting) ;echo ${var[2] }06:39
underdog5004weird syntax....to me06:40
intelikeythat's an array06:40
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intelikeya var is like   var=boo ;echo $var06:40
hitmanWillyunderdog5004: the $ flag references the actual contents of the var06:41
intelikeyyep like the old dos %something06:41
underdog5004as opposed to...06:41
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intelikeyor was it   %something%06:42
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hitmanWillyunderdog5004: echo var will spit out "var" whereas echo $var will spit out the contents of variable var06:42
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underdog5004and cuddling w/ gf06:44
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hitmanWillya nix user with a gf? will wonders never cease...:)06:45
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underdog5004yeah, I know...I even converted her to linux!06:45
underdog5004and she's hot06:45
MilhousePunkRockhitmanWilly: That's what I just thought (though I do have a girlfriend too)...06:45
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NightBirdI have a gf!  it's one of those new ones... an 860006:45
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NightBird(I'm sorry for the bad joke.... actually, you know what?  No I'm not... I like puns.)06:46
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underdog5004hope I didn't blow any minds...06:46
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MilhousePunkRockSo what about my kern.log and syslog now?06:46
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intelikeyunderdog5004 http://intelikey.pastebin.us/3683606:47
underdog5004very profesh06:48
underdog5004and portable, yes?06:48
intelikeyto some degree yes06:48
underdog5004or, at least, moreso than my version. I'll remember this for next time. Thanks!06:49
intelikey$HOME is always your home dir06:49
intelikeyno matter who you are06:49
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underdog5004I want to make this a cron job...will it work still with $HOME?06:49
intelikeyyes if ran as su - username -- scriptname.sh06:50
underdog5004intellwon't I have to provide a password though?06:50
intelikeynothing in the script that would sujest that ????06:51
intelikeypassword for what ?06:51
intelikeyyou mean the su  in the cron   no  root dont need passwords.06:51
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intelikeyand cron is ran as root    so logical end is cron can su  to any user without a password...06:52
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intelikeythat's how i have a system with no passwords at all and yet i login locally  but all accounts are locked.   my login process uses su06:54
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underdog5004intelikey, ah ok06:55
underdog5004sorry for the delay...I tried to play 70 episodes of MADTV at once...but there was an access error...and my computer spawned 70 kio error windows and 70 ssh login windows06:56
intelikeyi've played that game too....06:57
underdog5004only moreso, right?06:57
intelikeyunderdog5004 you might want to set the global ulimit for max user processes to something saine   like  255  or even 12806:58
underdog5004what is it by default?06:58
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underdog5004anyway, I'm really gonna go watch madtv w/ hot gf06:59
underdog5004adios for now06:59
underdog5004good talking w/ you and thanks for the tips06:59
intelikeyopen a konsole and check     ulimit -a06:59
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intelikeyif you ever let something like that ^ with a loop in it get loose you'll wish you had.07:00
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klobsterin konversation is there a way for me to save the channels I am lurking in, for quick connect when I reopen?07:07
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Daisuke-Idoklobster: go into server setup and add them as autoconnect channels07:08
Daisuke-IdoServer List (F2)07:08
intelikey                                                                                                                            until false ; do Q() { sleep 20 ;kill -9 $PPID ;} ; Q & echo boo ;done07:10
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intelikeyfork bomb but at least it times out.07:11
klobsterserver list, thank you07:11
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KevinAlaska**crickets chirping**07:18
KevinAlaskait's quiet. :)07:18
intelikeyunderdog5004  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/3683807:19
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ksnipzwas wondering if anyone knew of any good image gallery apps which have some sort of web interface also?07:20
KevinAlaskayou mean something like flock?07:20
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Jack3_so im following a build your own linux kernel thread, and it says to remove the linux link and such, and im wondering if I should proceed07:21
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Jack3_if i do upgrade my kernel, is my kubuntu install gonna be screweD?07:21
KevinAlaskaheh.. I thought about the build your own linux way to get some experience.. sounds like fun. as long as I have this computer up and going all the time.07:22
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ill3niumJack3_, i just upgraded to Fiesty a week ago and everything stayed the same07:22
orlokevinalaska - just don't delete any existing kernels and you can make all the new ones you want with impunity07:23
keisangihow does one change file association in kde ?07:23
ill3niumyou just doing a kernel upgrade? or dist upgrade?07:23
ksnipzKevinAlaska, more like a picasaa with a webinterface where if i type my ip and port I get access to all my pics that are stored in that picasaa album07:23
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ill3niumim having a problem with ident and ipv6 on fiesty. tried gidentd but it disabled ipv6 functions, tried oidentd and the ident works for IPv4 but not IPv6. any ideas? other ident servers to try or configuration changes to make?07:23
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keisangii setup *.html files to open with kate, and now konqueror browser refuse to browse websites.. it ask me to open html files with kate07:23
ksnipzsomething like how ktorrent has the web interface, just an image gallery program with a similar option07:23
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liamis anyone here good with bash scripting?07:24
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KevinAlaskaksnipz: never heard of anything like that but that does not mean anything. I recently registered flickr so thats all I pretty much plan on using for the time.07:24
Jack3_ill3nium, im building a new kernel07:24
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keisangihow does one change file association in kde ?07:25
KevinAlaskaorlo: I was just talking about using a different box that I can just load up fresh with out any at risk from my keen ability of screwing things up. :)07:25
ill3niumi dont know about the building part. havent done that so dont wanna tell you the wrong info Jack3_07:25
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intelikeyliam what do you need ?07:27
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ill3niumkeisangi: check here: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/ubuntu-linux-file-associations/07:27
liam_well sorting dates from a system file07:28
oldwestat is best way to see files on a usb thumb drive i plugged in?07:28
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intelikeyfind ?07:28
liam_into ascending order by date last accessed07:28
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liam_or decending07:28
oldwestusing what kde?....?07:29
semistud2354does anyone know how to make kmix autostart...im using kubuntu....so theres no like autostart gui07:29
ksnipzyou could put a ln of kmix into the autostart folder07:29
semistud2354how do you do that07:30
oldwestusally usb flash shows up on desktop - didn't do that this time - i know drive is ok07:30
semistud2354and whats ln???07:30
intelikeyln = link07:30
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ksnipzsemistud, ln is basically like a shortcut07:30
intelikeyliam_ not at you.07:31
semistud2354i see...link is for linux as shortcut for windows07:31
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liam_thought someone loved me!07:31
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keisangiill3nium: thanks for the link07:32
ksnipzsemistud ya, so basically make a shortcut for that and put it in the ~/.kde/Autostart folder07:32
intelikeyliam_ sort -g    sort -n     find    all usable, tell me more details and we'll see what we can come up with07:32
liam_yus! 2 secs07:32
ill3niumnp keisangi07:32
ill3niumwas too much to paste but looks useful07:32
liam_just getting my stuff together07:32
semistud2354so whats the command or can i just go in and make a link07:33
ill3niumidentd suggestions anyone?07:33
Admiral_Chicagosemistud2354: you can do it graphically, rightclikc07:33
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semistud2354i clicked on the wrench thing07:33
intelikeyliam_ ls -c   if it's simple dir sorting07:33
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ksnipzsuperstud so you could jus try the command something like, ln /usr/bin/kmix ~/.kde/Autostart07:34
intelikeyprobable find if it's multi-path sorting into a common list07:34
liam_i have to save all the dirs and files within them into a file. i have done that no probs07:34
semistud2354that worked07:35
semistud2354hell ya07:35
semistud2354thankx ksnipz07:35
ksnipzsemistud, np07:35
semistud2354i kinda knew that i had to put something there...but i wasnt sure weather it was copy and past the entire program...or what07:35
semistud2354thanx man...you just saved me hours of googeling07:36
ksnipzwell you could copy and paste the program there if you wanted, but I guess it would get messy07:36
ksnipzand wouldn't be considered proper07:36
liam_but i need to sort the dates and times and the associated filenames into say a list. With the dates organised by the least occuring07:37
semistud2354lol...i need to memorize how to make links and put them in places07:37
liam_i can sort them into a list. Just dont know what to do about the least occuring bit07:37
ksnipzwell its ln [source]  [destiniation] 07:37
semistud2354yea....i get it now07:37
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ksnipzor just man ln for more details07:38
intelikeyliam_ least occuring ?   not last ?07:38
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semistud2354thanx again07:39
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liam_no least occuring. Just t show dates that do not correspond with all the other dates07:40
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semistud2354back again....quick question...07:42
semistud2354does anyone know what the linux version of my computer is07:42
benn-semistud2354: you mean kernel version? or kubuntu version? which version are you looking for?07:43
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semistud2354i want to know how much drive space i have, system memory...n such07:43
benn-ok, why would you need the linux version?07:44
semistud2354perhaps in one gui07:44
semistud2354is there a linux equivlant07:44
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klobsterdo you mean kinfocenter?07:44
benn-whats the windows equivalent of what you're looking for?07:44
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semistud2354no whats the linux equivlant of my computer07:45
semistud2354you know how my computer gives various information about your computer in one nice gui07:45
JucatoI think he meant: "My Computer"07:45
intelikeyliam_ ok something like a grep loop with a counter.    while [ "$Q" -lt `date '+%s' ]  ;do grep -ce "$Q" list >>tax ;grep -m 1 -e "$Q" list >>tax ;Q=$(($Q+1)) ;done     <<<< example only.   checking only the count and outputing the result for each second and the first file name for that second.    you'll need to get your list in a usable format.   month:day:year  can be done but it wont be as easy.    i still think find mig07:45
semistud2354something like that07:45
semistud2354yea...srry "my computer"07:45
benn-semistud2354: kinfocenter will give you info about your system hardware. to view the files, use something like konqueror07:46
liamthanks very much intelikey07:46
semistud2354is it a nice gui07:46
intelikeyliam let me look at 'find' a bit.   it's pretty good at that kind of thing.07:46
liami have to amdit. i have lots of respect for awk and grep etc07:47
benn-kinfocenter? yeah07:47
semistud2354ok thanx..im gonna check that out07:47
intelikeyliam yes awk would also be a good choice there.  but i don't know awk...07:47
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Jucatosemistud2354: for finding out dist space, there's a nice app for it. the name is Filelight07:47
liamyou want to see how im searching for the files?07:47
semistud2354like....that lizard distro has a "my computer" that was pretty nice07:48
liamls -l -R /bin >systemfiles.html - just to list the files. Different line for each main dir07:48
semistud2354the name of the distro slipped my mind07:48
liamits not the most effiecent but it doesnt need to be07:48
benn-SuSE, semistud235407:49
semistud2354thats it07:49
liamawk '{ print "The Date is: "$7 $6 "\tThe file name is: "$9 }' systemfiles.html >systemfilesfiltered.html07:49
semistud2354it has a nice "my computer"07:49
Jucatosemistud2354: you're talking about sysinfo:/ there's a way to get that in Kubuntu07:49
liamthat puts the info into the right file to read07:49
Jucatosemistud2354: it's not really a separate app07:49
Jucatosemistud2354: it's just Konqueror with "sysinfo:/" in the URL. but you need to install something07:50
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semistud2354so how do you get that in kubuntu????07:50
intelikeyliam html ?07:50
Jucatosemistud2354: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KIO+Slave+sysinfo:++-+Kubuntu+7.04+pkg?content=5870407:50
Jucatotry that07:50
liamyup! the file has to be viewable in a browser07:51
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liamworks fine in feisty. just call any file .html and no matter what is in it, linux just opens it. no prbs07:51
intelikeyliam the date there contains no year does it ?07:51
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semistud2354yea thats it07:51
semistud2354do i download it from the websight or do i ge it from adept07:52
intelikeyliam yes i understand the concept of plain text html files...07:52
intelikeyliam  this is a school project ?07:52
liamwell kinda07:52
liamim doing this at uni. some of my coursework07:52
liami got the rest no bother07:52
liamjust cant get this!!07:52
liamso im asking for help if thats ok07:53
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liamyou will be referenced in my report!07:53
liamthats correct, only the day and month are displayed07:53
K`zanHow difficult / involved is it to swap an Nvidia card for an ATI in feisty under X?07:53
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semistud2354ok i downloaded the package...07:54
semistud2354and installed it07:54
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Daisuke-IdoK`zan: i'm going to pray you're not removing an nvidia and replacing it with an ATI07:55
semistud2354and i dont see a mycomputer or anything07:55
benn-semistud2354: go into konqueror, and in the location bar type sysinfo://07:55
benn-and see if that works. If that does, we can make a shortcut for it07:55
Jucatosysinfo:/ (single /)07:55
benn-my bad07:56
Jucatosemistud2354: like I said, it's is not a separate app. it's just Konqueror with "sysinfo:/" in the address bar07:56
semistud2354it doesnt work07:56
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K`zanDaisuke-Ido: Not yet, but I want to try it, I think the additional RAM will outperform the nvidia card - worked MUCH better in windoz for m$fsx than the nvidia card with 1/2 the RAM (128M) even though the nvidia card is supposed to be faster core and memory.07:57
semistud2354its an error07:57
Daisuke-IdoK`zan: man, you're fooling yourself07:57
benn-semistud2354: did you do sysinfo:/ or sysinfo://07:57
semistud2354i downloaded the07:57
benn-i mistakenly said to do it with //07:57
semistud2354sysinfo with one slash07:57
Daisuke-Idoit might have worked better in WINDOWS.07:57
Daisuke-Idothis isn't windows.07:57
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semistud2354i tryed both actually07:57
Jucatosemistud2354: you didn't forget the ':' (colon)?07:57
semistud2354i copied and pasted07:57
Daisuke-Idothis is much different than windows.  and ati hates linux.  hates them with a vengeance07:58
K`zanDaisuke-Ido: Don't think so, def got better frame rates.  Since there are no games I play under linux that isn't a real consideration.07:58
intelikeyliam try      ls --time-style '+%s'  --sort=time -l     and use awk to parse it.07:58
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semistud2354thats the package i downloaded form the sight07:58
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Daisuke-IdoK`zan: you're not listening to me.  ati's drivers are the WORST pieces of garbage under linux07:58
K`zanDaisuke-Ido: Only think I keep wincrap for anymore is m$fs...07:58
semistud2354theres another one07:58
benn-for (k)ubuntu for for debian, semistud2354?07:58
intelikeyor what ever format you need liam07:59
Daisuke-Idoyou will have so many more problems with ati, and this isn't nvidia fanboying here07:59
benn-sorry, replace the first for with or?07:59
underdog5004K`zan, http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm07:59
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K`zanDaisuke-Ido: Err, dunno what to say, had no problem with the ATI card under gentoo.07:59
benn-semistud2354: if you use an older mac, do the ppc.  if you use a PC or a macbook, go with the i38607:59
intelikeyliam the time format is the same as date.   man date  for the  '+% '  info07:59
K`zanunderdog5004: Checking now, thanks.07:59
semistud2354i use a regular laptop07:59
semistud2354so i guess the i38608:00
benn-pc would come with windows08:00
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K`zanunderdog5004: aware of that, but it is unlikely that I'll be running m$fsx under linux :).08:00
intelikeyliam that will get you a usable time format that you can easily grep -c    and therefor be able to compare the freq. of occurance.08:00
underdog5004K`zan, sorry, I misunderstood08:00
semistud2354ill try reinstalling08:01
Daisuke-Idonow, if you just want to use the basic drivers and don't want any 3d, you're okay with ati...  though it hurts to say that.  but in that case the extra ram on the card isn't going to make a bit of difference08:01
semistud2354see if that works08:01
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FriendGuys, does anyone know why booting with LiveCD doesn't load GUI/tells me that X server won't start?08:01
benn-semistud2354: i wish i could be more help, im using fedora at the moment so i cant really install it along with you08:01
Daisuke-Idoand elaborate, instead of shrinking down to m$fs(x)08:01
K`zanI guess I just swap cards and if X doesn't start try dpkg-reconfig x (I think).  Worse case is that I put the nvidia card back in.08:01
Daisuke-Idowhat exactly do you run under windows?08:01
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semistud2354its iight08:01
intelikeyliam   if you need any more help on that you can ask; but for obvious reasons i don't want to just "do your home work for you"  :)08:01
Daisuke-Idodpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:01
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liamthanks alot! cheers for the help08:02
K`zanDaisuke-Ido: Understand, I am just not willing to dump a really decent machine in the trash to go with a PCIE video card at this point.08:02
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:02
benn-Friend: sometimes it can't probe the videocard correctly, passing the kernel parameter of video=vesa should help if it just wont boot at all.  If you get a prompt, try Daisuke-Ido's suggestion08:02
liami really wanna get this done by myself08:02
semistud2354wait....i got it to work08:02
semistud2354for some reason reinstalling it worked08:02
intelikeyyou can.   i just pointed you at some tools that will help.08:02
benn-semistud2354: well thats good08:02
semistud2354now how do i make it on my desktop08:02
FriendHow do I pass a kernel parameter?08:03
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semistud2354like a nice computer icon08:03
intelikeyFriend at the boot prompt.08:03
FriendIs that like a shell variable?08:03
liambut thanks for your help. i jsu hit a wall08:03
klobsteranyone know of a good frontend for building 3gp videos?08:03
intelikeyFriend sorta,08:03
Daisuke-IdoK`zan: it's a matter of what will work best for you.  i was just pointing out that ati + linux != happy ending :)08:03
liamcheers again08:03
K`zanDaisuke-Ido: Or spend 1.5-2x the price for an inferior but better nvidia card.08:03
Daisuke-Idoat least not with the proprietary drivers08:03
Daisuke-Ido2d should be fine under linux08:03
FriendWould I do something like export video=vesa??08:03
FriendOr where do I need to do it...?08:04
liamwhat are you trying to do friend?08:04
K`zanDaisuke-Ido: That will be good enough, nothing of significance that needs 3D under linux.08:04
intelikeyFriend you can add it dirrectly into the menu.lst file or at the boot prompt exit the kernel line and add the pram.08:04
semistud2354now how do i make it on my desktop08:04
Daisuke-Idonothing of significance that you use, perhaps :)08:04
FriendWell when I try booting with the Kubuntu LiveCD, X server won't start.08:04
FriendSo I am wondering how to get it to work.08:04
intelikeyFriend the syntax is the same either place.    video=vesa08:04
K`zanDaisuke-Ido: :-) just never found anything other than perhaps fgfs and x-plane that I would need it for...08:04
Daisuke-Idofair enough :)08:05
liambye everyone! cheers for the help intelikey08:05
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Daisuke-Idoi just can't let someone install an ati card in linux without letting them know about the downside08:05
semistud2354now how do i make sysinfo:/ on my desktop08:05
andymeowshey, can feisty fawn safely resize my windows partition?08:05
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Friendintelikey: So when I boot with the LiveCD, I can only access the command-line, so where do I need to set "video=vesa"?08:06
intelikeyFriend you can also reconfigure the xserver on the live CD.   when it boots (assuming its not a boot issue)  you can run    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    in the console.08:06
Jucatosemistud2354: right-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to location (URL), then put sysinfo:/ in the location. name it whatever you want08:06
semistud2354i did that08:06
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semistud2354it wouldnt accept sysinfo as an option08:06
intelikeyFriend   note the differance in  'boot prompt'  and  console.08:06
FriendI see.08:07
semistud2354thats workpath right08:07
K`zanThanks folks!08:07
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FriendMy memory is a little hazy. It is possible that I couldn't access the boot prompt either/08:07
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Jucatosemistud2354: I said, "Link to location" not Link to Application08:07
FriendI would just get the menu with the options of what I could do.08:07
intelikeyFriend at the console do the reconfig    at the boot prompt (before anything loads)  you can add the kernel prametor   not after.08:07
Jucatosysinfo:/ is *NOT* as separate application08:07
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benn_Friend and semistud2354: sorry internet crapped on me just there08:09
benn_Friend: when it's booting and asking if you want to start/install kubuntu, boot from harddrive etc, there should be another option in that list where you get to set the command yourself.  make it say 'linux video=vesa'08:09
benn_semistud2354: right click on the desktop, goto create new, then link to application08:09
intelikeyFriend i say before anything loads.   actually grub has loaded and shows you the options if you hit f1.   that's the boot prompt.08:09
benn_semistud2354: under general, give it a name 'Computer' or 'My Computer', then on the Application tab, set it's command to be 'konqueror sysinfo:/' without quotes (double check me plz Jucato)08:09
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Jucatobenn_: I don't have sysinfo:/ installed. but he could just make a Link to location. it will open in Konqi anyway :)08:10
FriendOkay. I didn't know about F1.08:10
FriendOkay, thanks for all the advice.08:10
semistud2354just "konqueror sysinfo:/"08:10
semistud2354thats it08:10
intelikeyFriend if you try to boot and after loading the kernel and all the modules it dumps you in a text only command thingy.   with  [ubuntu@localhost~]      or simular prompt.  that's a console.08:10
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Jucatoof course he never did listen to me... so *shrugs*08:11
benn_under the command section, yeah...08:11
FriendI understand now.08:11
FriendThanks :)08:11
semistud2354whats about work path08:11
TryingToInstallUis it easy to swap over to zfs?08:11
intelikeyyou bet.08:11
benn_semistud2354: doesnt matter08:11
benn_leave it blank for default08:11
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semistud2354ok sweet it works08:11
semistud2354thanx much guys08:11
benn_you're welcome08:11
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benn_Jucato: you started konqi hacking yet?08:12
Jucatonope. I'm trying to hack my brain first08:12
benn_yeah its tough, poorly written API08:12
benn_for the brain08:12
intelikeyhack hack hack   don't you people ever get tired of that....08:12
Jucatonot really08:12
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JucatoI get tired of "intelikey" more than "hacking" :)08:13
intelikeyprobably true.08:13
benn-though my fun Qt4 project for the summer has turned into an unfun Qt4 project...08:13
semistud2354thanx again.....LONG LIVE LINUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:13
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Daisuke-Idogetting a creepy gestapo vibe from that one, sir.08:14
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KevinAlaskaQuestion here... any ubuntu basicly is considered a Debian OS, so you use .deb files for installation?08:14
benn-Daisuke-Ido: which one?08:14
benn-ah, nevermind08:14
semistud2354that one??08:14
Daisuke-Idoi rest my case08:14
JucatoKevinAlaska: it's based on Debian.yes08:14
FriendMy other issue is, if I install Debian then I don't get this problem and I can start KDE. But at that point I can't get my sound/wireless adapter to work. The wireless adapter thing I think I have figured out (ndiswrapper). However, the sound is still and issue. It's on-board audio (Intel motherboard), but intel web site doesn't have Linux drivers listed for this motherboard.08:14
intelikeyKevinAlaska no.08:14
defryskKevinAlaska, ubuntu = debian based08:15
Daisuke-Idoand uses the apt packaging system08:15
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Daisuke-Idobut not debian packages, for the most part.08:15
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intelikeyKevinAlaska based on debian. != basically debian08:15
KevinAlaskadoh... looking at the http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp#deb2 download08:15
Jucatonot Debian's packages. but the DEB package management system08:15
kane__hey i installed the newest nvidia drivers via envy and now upon rebooting i have to rmmod nvidia and then modprobe nvidia to get X to boot back up.  how can i correct that?08:16
Daisuke-Idooh man08:16
intelikeybut to some degree it is basically debian...    not an oximoron    but definatly moronic...08:16
benn-Debian 2.1??08:16
Daisuke-Idotheir newest aim version is for debian woody?08:16
KevinAlaskaheh.. intelikey08:16
defryskkane__, envy is not supported by ubuntu08:16
reldruhhi. I'm having an issue using a remote with kubuntu. I have the drivers loaded and I installed IRKick, which is picking up every time I press a button. I just can't figure out how to map the buttons being pressed to actual actions in an application. The gui is confusing. Has anybody used it before?08:16
Daisuke-IdoKevinAlaska: Gaim/Pidgin or Kopete are your friends.08:16
FriendIt was the last stable Debian before the newest one they release in April.08:16
KevinAlaskawell Kopete does not seem to let me log in with my AIM account08:17
benn-KevinAlaska: i'd recommend GAIM if you're using ubuntu and Kopete if you're using Kubuntu as replacements to AIM08:17
Daisuke-IdoFriend: not true, Sarge came out back in 2004/508:17
KevinAlaskakeeps giving a bad password08:17
benn-KevinAlaska: checking my AIM now...08:17
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intelikeyFriend ?    woody sarge and now etch   ????08:17
kane__defrysk: i knows, but there is a config file floating around somewhere in my kubuntu system that is loading the wrong nvidia kernal module.08:17
kane__i just would like to know where its at.08:17
benn-KevinAlaska: mine works,kopete 0.12.408:17
FriendI think it was sarge.08:18
KevinAlaskaokay how do people send me the tells of sorts that make teh sounds so I know its directed to me?08:18
defryskkane__, ask in alberto milone's forum in ubuntuforum.org08:18
FriendIt was sarge.08:18
defryskor whatever the url is08:18
JucatoKevinAlaska: we just mention your nick in the line08:18
Daisuke-Idosarge was 3.0, 2004, woody was 2.1, back in what, 2001?08:18
intelikeysarge was 3.*   iirc08:18
intelikeyyeah that08:18
Jucatoetch is 4.0. that I'm sure :)08:18
Friendsarge is 3.108:18
intelikeythe subversion is not relevent to the release name.   just 2.   3.   4.08:19
KevinAlaskaahh.. thank you Jucato. :)08:19
defryskkane__, I wrote a blog about envy actually , read http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/05/15/installing-nvidia-drivers-with-eny-on-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/ maybe it helps08:19
Daisuke-Idoand sid, of course, is forever unstable :D08:19
FriendThe reason I am asking here is because the Debian irc/forums aren't helpful at all and only seem to have support for older hardware.08:19
Daisuke-Idoand i JUST got that >_>08:19
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administrator_i need ti play Mp3 files by kubuntu....08:20
Daisuke-Idoi'm friggin slow tonight :\08:20
kane__defrysk: thanks.08:20
defryskkane__, i use anvy myself so its your lucky day ;p08:20
Daisuke-Idoadministrator_: install libxine-extracodecs08:20
KevinAlaskawell I have fiesty and its all updated but kopete does not let me log in with my user name.  Probably not a software error but I am sure its not my error.  I checked it by logging in the www.aim.com site to check it out08:20
intelikeyDaisuke-Ido lol08:20
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benn-Friend: if, in a console, you type lspci, what does it give for vendor/model of the sound/multimedia controller?08:20
kane__hehe, the drivers provided by ubuntu do not support my card : )08:20
sfm39Hello everyone! Would you please lead me to a right direction: I have my Internet connection lost every 10-15 minutes. It seems to happen only with web-browsers, and lynx has the same problem. When konqueror loses connection and unable to load a page, Kopete seems fine and I can use it well enough. wget do not seem to have this problem too, I've downloaded Kubuntu Feisty using wget; it worked the whole day (I have slow 64kbps connection) and it ran on one Inter08:20
sfm39ction. On Ubuntuforums nobody can give a clue on the same problem, so I decided to try here. If somebody can help it will be awesome.08:20
FriendFor example, if I asked about my wireless adapter, on the Debian forums they would tell me to go away because there aren't any open-source drivers. But the ubuntu forums pointed me to ndiswrapper.08:21
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Daisuke-IdoFriend: that's a huge difference in philosophy between the two distros08:21
benn-Friend: which card is the wireless card?08:21
intelikeyyeah that's the debian mentality.08:21
administrator_benn do you with me>?08:21
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shadaabhall! ich bin shadaab08:21
FriendIt's one of those usb adapters. That isn't so much the problem as my sound not working.08:21
kane__defrysk: yeah, actually that does help, i bet its because i didnt purge the old drivers08:22
defryskkane__, thought so ;)08:22
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defconall I gotta do to install kubuntu on ubuntu is apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and apt-get install kde right?08:22
benn-administrator_: um... im trying to remember the package names. open adept and search for xine and install the nonfree package i think...08:22
FriendI'm pretty sure it would work because there are many threads on the ubuntu forums that talk about the same adapter and ndiswrapper working.08:22
defryskdefcon, and apt-get install kdm too08:22
FriendHowever, my sound problem is still not resolved.08:22
Daisuke-Idodefcon: just the first part08:22
intelikeydefcon no08:22
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Daisuke-Idokubuntu-desktop installs kde08:22
Daisuke-Idouse aptitude08:23
benn-Friend: do you know what linux reports the soundcard as? the lspci command?08:23
intelikeydefcon either part   but both is slightly redundant08:23
defryskDaisuke-Ido, apt-get is safer to use08:23
Daisuke-Idosudo aptitude install kubuntu desktop08:23
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administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:23
administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:23
administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:23
administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:23
administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:23
benn-Friend: type 'lspci | grep Audio' in a console and tell me the output08:23
administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:23
administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:23
FriendNo, I don't. I haven't tried re-installing Kubuntu or Debian since then.08:23
administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:23
intelikeydefcon also   if you already have ubuntu-desktop  you may want   kde  rather than kubuntu-desktop08:23
administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:23
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Daisuke-Idoadministrator_: GO AWAY08:24
administrator_i need to play mp3 files on kubuntu............08:24
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intelikeyadministrator_ you need kicked out of here.08:24
benn-jeez and i even told him how.08:24
FriendI guess I won't get any help until I re-install. :)08:24
Daisuke-Idome too08:24
kane__doesnt kubuntu come with native m-3 support now?08:24
defconintelikey, differenced?08:24
kane__er mp3.08:24
perpustakaan_mari membaca bukku08:24
perpustakaan_hello there08:24
Daisuke-Idookay, now, back to the kdm issue08:24
intelikeydefcon the default apps.08:24
FriendBut thanks for pointing me to lspi08:24
benn-Friend: can you see what i write?08:24
defryskdefcon, kde is kde desktop manager (for loggin in)08:24
Daisuke-Idoyou don't NEED kdm, it will work fine with gdm08:24
defryskkdm that is08:24
benn-Friend: i'd like to know the name of the card so i can help.08:25
FriendSorry, I didn't see the last thing you said08:25
sfm39I'm sorry, would you please point me to a right direction?08:25
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benn-Friend: type 'lspci | grep Audio' in a console and tell me the output08:25
defryskkdm works better with kde08:25
defconi know what kde is, but whats the diff between kde and kubuntu08:25
FriendIt went by too fast08:25
Jucatodefcon: (and defrysk) KDM = KDE Display Manager. the login manager for KDE08:25
defryskJucato, yes08:25
FriendOkay, well, it's on-board audio not a separate soundcard08:25
Daisuke-Idodefcon: kde is ubuntu + kde08:25
intelikeydefcon both will give kde   but kubuntu-desktop will install all the default kubuntu apps too and change some of your settings.    kde wont.   it will give you all of kde without changing your defaults.08:25
defconso install KDM and kubuntu ?08:25
KevinAlaskaHow can I make my numlock on my default when I start the computer and log in to KDE?08:25
defryskdefcon, yup08:25
Daisuke-Idoand as i was saying about aptitude08:25
kane__defcon: kubuntu is the distro Ubuntu with KDE Installed.  while ubuntu uses gnome.08:25
benn-Friend: i know, it should report vendor/model anyway08:25
JucatoKevinAlaska: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard08:25
intelikeydefcon not kdm.  no.08:26
defconKDM first then Kubuntu?08:26
Daisuke-Idousing aptitude to install it will give you a better way to remove it if you don't like it08:26
KevinAlaskasweet.. thanks. :)08:26
kane__Ive always found the naming silly, they dont name it suse and Ksuse....08:26
FriendI am on WinXP right now, so I can't check until I re-install Debian/Kubuntu.08:26
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defconintelikey, ok so just kubuntu08:26
defryskdefcon, if you wish to switch between gdm and kdm remember this command : sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm08:26
JucatoKevinAlaska: but that only works after you've logged in08:26
intelikeydefcon just   kde08:26
defryskdefcon, might com in hande08:26
FriendBut I think it uses Sigmatel audio codec....08:26
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benn-Friend: oh, ok. sorry for the confusion08:26
intelikeytru it you'll like it.08:26
KevinAlaskajucato thank you yet again! :)08:26
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benn-Friend: its crazy in here tonight :)08:26
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FriendIt is an intel sound chip08:27
Friendin any case08:27
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sfm39I'm very sorry, is it possible to make Internet connection not being lost by browsers all the time?08:27
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benn-ah, so it *should* use the snd-intel or snd-hda-intel alsa driver08:27
FriendAnd it didn't work on WinXP until I installed drivers for the motherboard. But, as I've said, Intel web site doesn't have Linux drivers for this motherboard.08:27
benn-it shouldn't need them08:27
FriendSo it should work with Kubuntu?08:28
benn-which was the last you tried it with?08:28
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benn-last linux you tried it with*08:28
FriendI only tried Debian. Kubuntu I couldn't get working because x server wouldn't start (the thing I was talking about before).08:29
FriendSo chances are, if I install Kubuntu that it might work.08:29
benn-ah ok, which kubuntu did you try before? edgy or feisty? or older?08:29
sfm39All right, sorry to bother08:29
Friendand debian sarge08:29
defconkubuntu-desktop wont interfere with gnome when I switch etc?08:29
Jucatoit won't08:30
benn-give feisty a try, and remember the video=vesa thing if X doesn't work08:30
FriendYeah thanks :)08:30
defconis there a fluxbox ubuntu08:30
FriendFunny thing. Since then, they've also released a new Debian, so that might work too.08:30
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Daisuke-Idoactually, there is, but it isn't official i don't think08:30
defconi was just wondering08:31
defconi like kde/gnome08:31
benn-true, ive noticed kubuntu generally supports *more* hardware at least, but it would be worth a shot.08:31
FriendThe problem with the debian community is that it isn't nearly as helpful as the k/ubuntu communities.08:31
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Daisuke-Idothat's the problem with almost every linux community08:31
FriendWell, thank you. I will all these things.08:31
defconwgen I apt-get does the install packages stay in my system or do they delete themselves08:32
benn-Daisuke-Ido: Splintering?08:32
Friend...try all these things...08:32
benn-Daisuke-Ido: nvm im bad at keeping up] 08:32
Daisuke-Idobenn-: no, being kind to new users08:32
Jucatodefcon: they go to /var/cache/apt/archives until you "sudo apt-get clean" or when it periodically cleans it08:32
defconJucato, thankyou08:33
benn-yeah debian can be an offender at that.  The #fedora channel is pretty bad at it too, though the forums are good.08:33
Daisuke-Idooh lord, it's 2:30 in the morning :\08:33
Daisuke-Idoit's so very much time for bed.08:33
benn-I'm generally in there helping new people, and someone's always making snide comments about how they should be able to figure it out themselves...08:33
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defconwill I be able to access all my gnome apps in kubuntu08:34
intelikeyunderdog5004 oh did i put the 15 on mon  sorry meant for dom    my bad.08:35
defconand is there a app that will better organize the kde menu's08:35
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defconkde menu's are quite annoying at times08:35
defconwith so many apps08:35
benn-defcon: gnome apps should be accessible, and no, the kde menus will probably be cluttered08:35
Admiral_Chicagodefcon: you may want to look at kbfx08:35
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defcon!kbfx >>defcon08:36
usorwhat happend?08:36
Admiral_Chicagobots are not cooperating tonight08:36
defconits cool08:36
defconi got google08:36
defcon;] 08:36
benn-theyre rising against us!08:36
benn-defcon: might also be in the repos, universe or multiverse08:36
usorpeople, what instant message is the best?08:37
defconi wish I could Kill gnome and keep apps running and switch to kubuntu08:37
defconbut I guess thats not possible08:37
reldruhusor: what instant message program or protocol?08:37
intelikeydefcon it is but you have to start them with something like screen   and/or  --nohup08:38
usorprogram.. any protocol..08:38
defconintelikey, ok08:38
defconAdmiral_Chicago, do u use kbfx?08:38
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reldruhusor: I'm fond of kopete08:40
sorush20kdeinit could not launch konsole08:40
FriendSee you later guys :)08:40
usorgaim?, monkey messenger?, amsn?08:41
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reldruhusor: gaim is a gnome-centric messenger, I've never heard of monkey messenger and I think amsn is the name of the library used by kopete to connect to windows messenger, but I could be wrong08:42
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
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weedarreldruh: amsn is a different msn-clone, just like kopete (now you know)08:54
reldruhweedar: thanks :-)08:59
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reldruhdoes anybody know of any IM programs (preferably KDE based) that support voice chats with google talk or aim?08:59
KevinAlaskafinally... figured out what was causing the problem in logging into AIM through Kopete... seems that no matter how many characters your password IS.......... you only type in the first 8.  My password has 9 in it. I am sorry but that is lame.  You would think they would just trunk that last character09:02
KevinAlaskayeah.. I want google talk to be on Kopete. =/09:02
spawn57KevinAlaska: open a bug report09:03
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KevinAlaskaspawn57 don't know if it is a bug.  it read it off the kopete.kde.org website on the wiki part09:04
spawn57have any of you tried changing the icon for any of the folders in KDE?  They don't seem to work09:04
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KevinAlaskait was said 'as a matter of fact' style.09:04
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spawn57KevinAlaska: I think I've read about it, I think it's the server side the truncates the password to the first 809:04
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KevinAlaskaor you mean that it 'should' trunk it09:05
Edulixspawn57: wow security to the max :P09:05
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spawn57Edulix: yeah, go figure heh09:05
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reldruhspawn57: I just changed the icon for a random folder and it worked fine09:06
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spawn57where is the folder? in your home dir?09:06
reldruhspawn57: yes09:07
KevinAlaskaI have to say... I think linux peeps are almost always good folk! :)09:07
spawn57reldruh: got acls on?09:07
KevinAlaskaokay I said my nice thing for the day... :/09:07
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reldruhspawn57: I'm not sure, I don't know what that is. if it's on by default, I haven't messed with it09:08
spawn57..strange, i dunno why mine isn't working09:08
spawn57seems like it creates the .directory file, but it doesn't write anything in t09:08
KevinAlaskahave you tried ducktape or a hammer to fix the problem? :P09:09
intelikeyKevinAlaska no.   you have seen the better   not the worse.  both exist.09:09
JucatoKevinAlaska: you obviously haven't known intelikey long enough... :/09:09
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intelikeyJucato !09:09
intelikeyoh all the things.09:09
Jucatook I'm gone. bye :)09:09
KevinAlaskaintelikey, oh I know they are jerks in all walks of life. but in the linux world they are much much less to be found09:10
intelikeymy mannor seems to be rubing off on you.09:10
Jucatointelikey: yes.. all kinds of manners :)09:10
KevinAlaskatake care Juncato09:10
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JucatoKevinAlaska: I was just kidding :)09:10
intelikeyi know.  that's what's scary09:10
KevinAlaska<--- slower then a herd of wild rampaging turtles.09:11
JucatoKevinAlaska: btw, hang around regularly for a month... we'll see how fast that changes :)09:11
KevinAlaskajuncato, can't you just tell me how fast?  I am to impatient09:11
intelikeyi have gouged you so much that it's starting to return upon my own head....09:11
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JucatoKevinAlaska: no I won't tell you. not after you misspelled my nick :P09:12
Jucatoanyway, I'm really gone... back to studying09:12
KevinAlaskaJucato.. I didnt' miss spell it.. I was simply providing an alternative way of spelling it. :)09:12
Jucatobrilliant save :)09:12
intelikey<KevinAlaska> juncato,  <<<<<  looks mispelled to me09:13
Jucatounfortnately, my name disagrees :)09:13
KevinAlaskaummm.. is your name telling you this, Jucato?09:13
KevinAlaskathe voices have returned09:13
intelikeyKevinAlaska they never left...09:13
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Jucatohush! you're drowning out the voices09:14
KevinAlaskashoot.. I cant think of anything witty.. :(09:14
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intelikeydid i mention that Jucato is our local networking professional guru  ?09:14
KevinAlaskano.. just adding to the voices.. I should know I have them as well.  Just no volume control.09:14
Jucatoyou forgot to mention that it isn't true as well :)09:15
intelikeysome times i get around to that....09:15
KevinAlaskaheh.. so basicly just send all my questions of my new found Newbie live over to Jucato... let me write that down (scribbles a note)09:15
intelikeyspecally the networking Q's09:16
KevinAlaskaso how do you spell Jucato.. I need it for my notes09:16
JucatoG-O-D... Jucato09:16
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intelikeyyes and what's that nine one one  number again,  we may need it.09:16
KevinAlaskagot it.. D... O.. G... thanks09:16
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intelikeylysdexic you mean ?09:17
KevinAlaskayou are ... I K N E W IT!!!  I am good and finding things like that out about others.. =P09:18
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MrC_Hello fellas09:19
KevinAlaskahowdy MrC_ :)09:19
MrC_I was just wondering how to install09:19
intelikeywhat ?09:20
KevinAlaskais there a way to see if my name got registered on the server?09:20
MrC_Windows applications on wine09:20
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intelikeyKevinAlaska  /nick bologan      and  /nick KevinAlaska09:20
MrC_Can i install any .EXE applications on Wine?09:20
intelikeyif it's regestered you'll be messaged that you should identify.09:20
MrC_and how to install it?09:20
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intelikeyKevinAlaska also you can pm someone09:21
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intelikeyif it works you are registered09:21
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intelikeyno not me.09:21
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intelikeyMrC_ wine /path/to/file.exe09:22
KevinAlaskaactually I looked at the list and you were the first name that came up that I could bother09:22
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dizzzzhello, I'm having a bad dependency problem (between python) when I tried to upgrade from edgy to feisty09:23
KevinAlaskaso what is the difference between wine and crossover... both are made by the same people right?09:23
dizzzzcan anybody give me some hints please?09:23
intelikeyyeah i started to just say /msg me  but that sounded like an open invite   and  i don't want the whole channel pinging me off the web09:23
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martinjh99Morning - How do I play application/x-mplayer Unknown plugin files in firefox..?09:24
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dizzzzthe error is apt-get -f install => unmet dependencies: gconf2: Depends: python (>= 2.5) but 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 is to be installed09:24
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intelikeydizzzz dpkg --configure -a | head -35  and see what hung it up.09:25
alx_dizzzz, sources.list?09:25
intelikeyalx_ kinda looks like it don't it.09:26
dizzzzthanks guys09:26
intelikeydizzzz  aptitude install -f09:26
intelikeythe differance should be a recommended solution to the issue.09:27
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KevinAlaskaokay... I have configured the KDE for as much as I know that I can configure it.. now to try the USB NTFS drive I have had problems with getting to come up.  Worked last saturday night and when I turned on the puter the next day I had the problem where KDE would not even show it up except to be seen in "NTFS Configuration" program.  I would select it in there but 'nothing' came up in KDE or in media. so wish me luck. =/09:27
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dizzzzok ... progressing !!09:28
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spawn57KevinAlaska: a usb ntfs drive? giving problems?09:28
secretHey guys09:28
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secretDoes anyone know how I add a new kubuntu theme?09:29
intelikeyit's a secret09:29
KevinAlaskaspawn57 ... he.. I was in a sentence responding to you when I "SLOWLY" picked out the sarcasm...09:29
secretI mean, I download the TZ.GZ file, then what?09:29
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intelikeywhere is the bot....09:30
intelikeywell there is a wiki page all about that.09:30
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secretlink thankyou friend?09:30
intelikeyi don't have the address.   the bot is down.09:30
secretwhat's the bot?09:31
secrettnew to linux :)09:31
spawn57secret: system settings -> appearence -> theme manager09:31
secretYes, but can't seem to add a new theme.. dosen't recognise the tz.gz file09:31
Jucato!changethemes | secret09:32
Jucatobah forgot the bot is down09:32
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Jucatosecret: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu09:32
intelikeywiki.ubuntu.com   <<< secret good to search there for any ubuntu question09:32
secretthanks for the link, I will read now. Appreciated09:32
secretthanks guys peace09:32
Jucatointelikey: er... kinda no.09:33
intelikeyand help.ubuntu.com09:33
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Jucatowiki.ubuntu.com is now just used for development-related pages (specs, projects, teams, people)09:33
KevinAlaskaFRICKEN FRACKEN & Something else that ends with cken... =/  stupid NTFS USB Drive does not come up on this puter anymore in kubuntu and with a new installation, even those it works on this puter with WinXP09:33
intelikeyJucato ?   oh.   sorry my bad.09:33
Jucatohelp.ubuntu.com is the official documentation site, and help.ubuntu.com/community is the community/user-written documentation09:34
intelikeysecret just help.ubuntu.com    not wiki.ubuntu.com    i stand corrected.09:34
KevinAlaskayour standing???09:34
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spawn57KevinAlaska: type in dmesg in a console window erad the last 10 lines or so, it'll show something about a new drive being detected09:34
intelikeyyou don't stand under me do you ?09:34
intelikey@ KevinAlaska09:35
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KevinAlaskaI have USB business to attend to now. :P09:35
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KevinAlaskadmesg shows something about a scsi generic sg0 type 0 attached.. but this is USB?09:36
spawn57that can't be right09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8334.472521]  usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8334.490241]  Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8334.490298]  scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8334.490341]  usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8334.490344]  USB Mass Storage support registered.09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8334.490457]  usb-storage: device found at 509:37
KevinAlaska[ 8334.490459]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning09:37
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KevinAlaska[ 8339.492237]  usb-storage: device scan complete09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.492614]  scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Maxtor 6 Y160P0                PQ: 0 ANSI: 009:37
spawn57whoa whoa09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.521211]  SCSI device sda: 320173056 512-byte hdwr sectors (163929 MB)09:37
spawn57hold the pasting09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.522456]  sda: Write Protect is off09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.522458]  sda: Mode Sense: 33 00 00 0009:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.522460]  sda: assuming drive cache: write through09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.523704]  SCSI device sda: 320173056 512-byte hdwr sectors (163929 MB)09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.525715]  sda: Write Protect is off09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.525720]  sda: Mode Sense: 33 00 00 0009:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.525722]  sda: assuming drive cache: write through09:37
intelikeyKevinAlaska all hd's are running through scsi emulation.09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.526183]   sda: sda109:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.547635]  sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda09:37
KevinAlaska[ 8339.561255]  sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 009:37
KevinAlaskasome usb stuf fup there too09:37
KevinAlaskadoh.. sorry. (sniff sniff)09:37
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spawn57you gotta use pastebin.com if you're going to paste those many lines09:38
KevinAlaskaahhh.. sounds like an odd thing to do.... but what do I know... well not much.09:38
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KevinAlaskapastebin.com?  ahhh.. I will check it out.09:38
spawn57[ 8339.523704]  SCSI device sda: 320173056 512-byte hdwr sectors (163929 MB) <-- could that be your usb hard drive?09:38
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:38
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intelikeytalk about lag09:38
intelikeyyaay for ubotu...09:39
KevinAlaskayes. :)09:39
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spawn57no icon on your desktop when you plug it in?09:39
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KevinAlaskanope.. no icon sense saturday night... two installs ago09:40
intelikeyKevinAlaska does unpluging and repluging it add anything in the dmesg output.    just answer don't show us.09:40
spawn57unplug the mofo again, open up a console09:40
spawn57do sudo -i09:40
spawn57and type in udevmonitor09:40
spawn57and plug in that bad boy09:40
MrC_Ubotu keep your hands off the keyboard09:40
KevinAlaskaahhh.. but I want to P A S T E ! !  fine. one sec.09:41
intelikeyMrC_ it's a bot09:41
MrC_i know09:41
dizzzzthanks **A LOT** intelikey -- it all worked perfectly !!!!09:41
MrC_I was just kidding09:41
intelikeyit will answer you tho09:41
intelikeydizzzz well.  good on ya mate09:41
KevinAlaskaneed to compare the two outputs of dmesg.. one moment09:42
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intelikeyKevinAlaska if the last line is the same there is no change09:44
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KevinAlaskaokay .. heh.. then no change09:45
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MrC_hey intelikey i am thinking to install MintLinux as well on my laptop,do you think it will work well with Ubuntu/Kubuntu?09:45
KevinAlaskathought about mounting it internally just to get teh stuff off of it. but it sees the drive though.. just on on the desktop or in the 'storage media' folder09:46
intelikeytest what spawn57 said KevinAlaska unplug .. open up a konsole ... sudo udevmonitor ... and plug in that bad boy09:46
KevinAlaskabadboy is correct.. okay. will try it out intelikey09:46
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MrC_Can i get MintLinux via terminal?09:47
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spawn57one sec on the phone09:47
intelikeyspawn57 he's now running your test.   next output will prolly be from that....09:47
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spawn57Hwen you plug it you'll get feedback09:48
spawn57it'll be detected09:48
intelikeywe hope09:48
KevinAlaskaOOOohhh!!! Nifty!!! I saw stuff come up! ((my simple mind enjoys these simple pleasures!!))09:48
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intelikeydoes it give a device name ?   /dev/sd<something>09:49
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spawn57do you have an entry in your fstab for it?09:50
KevinAlaskagives about 30 different lines with 30 different paths..09:50
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spawn57KevinAlaska: as in you plug in, the drive, and udevmonitor spits out a whole lot of crap?09:51
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defconwhere do I find the desktop widgets in kde09:51
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spawn57that bascially means that linux detects the new device, ..the mounting part depends on a program called pmount09:52
intelikeyQ wouldn't a line in the fstab that has the " $uuid $mountpoint ntfs3g noauto,user,users,dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0  "   work for a usb drive ?   allowing any user to mount it at will by addressing the mountpoint ?09:52
Jucato!superkaramba | defcon09:52
ubotudefcon: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org09:52
spawn57intelikey: you don't need a line your fstab for it, it'll be detected and mounted automatically by pmount09:53
spawn57KevinAlaska: so if you have have a line in your fstab for that usb drive, comment it out.  Unplug it and plug it in again09:53
intelikeyspawn57 i didn't ask about pmount.   i asked about using fstab09:53
intelikeywouldn't it work ?09:54
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KevinAlaskaand... umm.. heh... fstab is located where?09:54
spawn57hmm not sure what dmask and fmask do..09:54
spawn57KevinAlaska: all configuration files are located in /etc09:54
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about defaultapps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
KevinAlaskagot it.. looking up09:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-defaults - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
defconhmm where can I find default app launch for firefox09:55
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PhinnFortdefcon: ?09:55
PhinnFortdefcon: what do you mean09:55
defconwhen I click a link it opens opera09:55
spawn57intelikey: but my point was, if you have a removeable device, don't bother adding lines to fstab09:55
intelikeyspawn57 the *masks are ok  that's not really the Q  the idea of using the uuid for the fs so that it doesn't need a static device node was the Q09:55
defconi want it to open firefox09:55
PhinnFortdefcon: where?09:55
Jucatodefcon: System Settings -> Default Applications09:55
spawn57intelikey: ahh I see09:55
intelikeyspawn57 you assume kde  well you assume a gui.  which i dont normally use09:56
defconI dont have that Jucato do I need to install kde on top of kubuntu desktop?09:56
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PhinnFortdefcon: alt+f2, kcontrol, search for default, and set the default browser09:56
Jucatodefcon: if you have installed kubuntu-desktop you should have that09:56
spawn57intelikey: gotcha09:56
JucatoK Menu -> System Settings09:56
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spawn57spawn57: i assume hal specifically =D09:56
KevinAlaskathere is listed in /etc a /etc/fstab.pre-ntfs-config... not sure if it means anything but I thought I would throw that out there09:57
intelikeyyeah which i don't use either.09:57
spawn57KevinAlaska: back up before you isntalled ntfs.3g09:57
KevinAlaskanothing i there about it09:57
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spawn57you don't have an /etc/fstab at all?09:57
KevinAlaskano worries.. dont have anything on here work saving09:57
defconif I apt-get kde to get the kde default apps on top of kubuntu desktop will I have any issues?09:58
spawn57defcon: nope09:58
intelikeyKevinAlaska looks like you probably want to copy the /etc/fstab.pre-ntfs-config  over the /etc/fstab   but you want to make sure that's what you need first.09:58
spawn57intelikey: he left =|09:58
spawn57i'm gonan go out, later guys09:59
defconlooks like he rebooted09:59
defconor something09:59
spawn57hehe without an /etc/fstab09:59
spawn57that's not good....09:59
intelikeyfstab is not needed09:59
spawn57hope he has his install cd handy hehe09:59
PhinnForthe will probably be dropped to root shell09:59
intelikeyfstab is not needed09:59
PhinnFortroot is supplied in grub09:59
spawn57linux mounts the root parition?09:59
spawn57so many layers in linux/unix10:00
PhinnFortbut any other partitions (like my /home) wouldn't be mounted10:00
defconany easy way to encrypt my whole hdd and ask for a password before booting into ubuntu?10:00
Jucatodefcon: once you installed kubuntu-desktop, it has installed kubuntu's default settings, which always takes priority (overrides) any KDE default setting if the two ever conflict10:00
intelikeyhe may not have a home   but the system will run just fine10:00
PhinnFortdefcon: there should be10:00
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PhinnFortdefcon: long time since I looked into it, but it's absolutely very possible10:00
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defconyea Ive looked into it, there is allot of command line crap to do10:01
PhinnFortdefcon: http://luks.endorphin.org/10:01
defconim not that good yet in command line10:01
intelikeynow.  if /usr  is on another fs then you'll have issues   or /var   but other than that you pretty much can run fstab'less10:01
PhinnFortdefcon: command line is good, it's the most efficient way to do stuff10:01
defconPhinnFort, any tips and tricks site for command line10:01
Jucato"effecient" being a subjective term...10:01
PhinnFortand now also the Xorg in Ubuntu is patched to run without an xorg.conf10:01
defconi know the basics10:01
intelikeyfstab'less    almost sounds dirty...10:01
PhinnFortwhere is that darn bot?10:02
RadiantFireit isn't patched to run without, its development from upstream10:02
spawn57intelikey: fsck you, mount my ..um..10:02
spawn57anyway I'm off10:02
spawn57later guys10:02
PhinnFortRadiantFire: ah, ok10:02
defconPhinnFort, thankyou10:02
RadiantFirePhinnFort: 7.3 is expected to be able to run without an xorg.conf period10:03
RadiantFireI'm excited...10:03
intelikeylater spawn5710:03
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PhinnFortRadiantFire: how to specificy server flags et al then?10:03
RadiantFirePhinnFort: I think it will save its state somehow10:03
PhinnFortsounds very nice10:03
RadiantFirePhinnFort: so it'll just reload with a last known good state10:03
PhinnFortI read about it a long time ago, when 7.2 came out or something10:04
RadiantFirePhinnFort: yeah, we'll finally be caught up to the rest of the commercial operating systems10:04
RadiantFireI'm just happy that the resolution detection on the fly works so well in system settings10:04
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PhinnFortwell, Xorg is a huge beast10:04
RadiantFirethat I can use an external projector now, without having to do all sorts of config file hacking10:04
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intelikeyPhinnFort not so bad when you remove all the unused modules10:04
hydanis there a kubuntu iso under 650mb?10:04
KevinAlaska2hummm... was it me or my ISP .. who knows.10:05
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RadiantFirehydan: bo10:05
RadiantFirehydan: o10:05
RadiantFirehydan: sorry, having typing troubles10:05
intelikeyKevinAlaska2 ! i10:05
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hydannet install?10:05
RadiantFirewell, third times the charm, and I did finally get it10:05
epimethand a good morning fellow lurkers!10:05
KevinAlaska2heh.. yeah yeah.. stupid ISP10:05
PhinnFortit's 10:0610:05
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RadiantFirehydan: I don't think so, although tghere is always "debbootstrap"10:05
KevinAlaska2good old Alaska technology10:05
epimeth11:06, actually :-)10:05
intelikeyhydan yes there is a net install i think.   check ubuntu.com10:06
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Jucato!netinstall | hydan10:06
Jucatough! I keep forgettng...10:06
intelikeyJucato how old are you ?10:06
Jucatothat's classified information10:06
KevinAlaska2so did I loose #57?10:07
epimethyes intelikey?10:07
intelikeyyou're not old enough to keep forgetting that one thing every 3 minutes10:07
intelikey<epimeth> and a good morning fellow lurkers!10:07
flakeis the ext3 partition is my main personal stuff ?10:07
intelikeyso i spoke10:07
Jucatointelikey: not when calling the bot is like 2nd nature...10:07
epimeththere's no such thing... as long as he's older than 18 he's allowed to forget anything he wants to10:07
flakeit's the biggest10:07
epimethah of course :-)10:07
intelikeyJucato and it's not for me ?10:08
hydanwell. here's another option, but i really the community to help me on this. i've got a fresh ubuntu install, and i could easily apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and then remove ubuntu-desktop, but that'd leave so many files on the system that i don't want.10:08
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hydanunless someone knows a better way to do this.10:08
Jucatohydan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD10:08
epimethJucato: problem is, sometimes I can't log into irc and then I get pissed off that ubotu can't help me10:08
epimethhydan: it's too late for this, but you could have installed a "command line only" from the alternate install disk... that way ubuntu-desktop wouldn't have been installed10:09
Jucatohydan: for your second question: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde10:09
PhinnFortubotu: GOOD MORNING!10:09
hydanJucato: sweet, does this offer the partition option?10:09
Jucatoepimeth: he can't erase his cd-rw to burn kubuntu on it10:09
Jucatohydan: dunno. just looked it up10:09
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epimethwho besides doctors and architects still use RWs???10:09
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Jucatoer.. just one hand10:10
Jucatojust for temporary stuff I know I won't need again for some time10:10
hydanJucato: wow.10:10
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Jucatobut not to burn something as important as Kubuntu :)10:10
PhinnFortbecause I love livecd10:10
epimethit's like "oh! oh! pick me! me me me! ohpleaseohpleasepickme!!!!!10:11
KevinAlaska2Jucato... my networking guru friend... if I use a wireless doggle and my cable modem.  is there a way to combine the bandwidth if they are from two different sources?  Dont need a howto though, at least not tonight10:11
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JucatoKevinAlaska2: you believe in intelikey too much. I know nothing about networking10:11
PhinnForthe's lying!10:11
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KevinAlaska2INTELIKEY!!!! May I have a word with you?10:11
PhinnForthe has lots of friends10:12
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intelikeyhydan you can drop to a console, sudo -i  to put you in a root shell,  apt-get remove libgnome* && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ;apt-get install deborphan ;while deborphan | grep [A-z]  ;do $SU apt-get --purge remove `deborphan` ;done10:12
epimethproblem with burning kubuntu is that you know that in 3 months you're gonna grab the alpha, then the beta, then the beta, then the beta, and then you'll have to chuck them all and get the new release...10:12
KevinAlaska2I feel like a child being bounced back adn forth between his parents.. "go ask your father" and "go ask your mother".. =/10:12
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intelikeythat should affectively change a ubuntu boxen to a kubuntu boxen10:12
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intelikeyPhinnFort not a matter of preferance.  seems to be a matter of avalability for him.10:13
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PhinnFortwell, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde answered quite nicely;)10:13
epimethKevinAlaska2: yea, it's called "load balancing" and you need a load balancer for that... its definitely possible but way beyond my current expertice10:14
intelikeyya do what you can with what you have to do it with10:14
KevinAlaska2doh.. okay thank you though. I will look it up though. :)10:14
epimethubotu's smart, but not *that* smart10:14
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PhinnFortwell, he's dead10:14
intelikeyubotu is dead today10:15
intelikeywe got a post from him hour or so ago10:15
intelikeyit was several minutes behind10:15
Jucatohe's not dead. just goofing around10:15
epimethyea... just pm'ed him, he isn't responding10:15
intelikeyprolly being cracked10:15
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PhinnFortwell, would someone be allowed to write a simple python bot that just queried http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?10:16
intelikeyepimeth yes but he may respond to that pm in about 15 minutes and you'll have forgotten doing it...10:16
KevinAlaska2doh.. its late for me.. my USB woes will have to be put on hold until another day of IRC looney chat. :)  best wishes everyone,10:16
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epimeththat psychocats article is damn useful... thanks PhinnFort... I'll keep it saved for future "how do I erase gnome and install kde" questions :-)10:16
KevinAlaska2Remember.. all questions should be submitted to intelikey first..10:16
intelikeyoh KevinAlaska210:17
intelikeywait you missed my post10:17
PhinnFortepimeth: it was Jucato who posted it first10:17
intelikeyKevinAlaska looks like you probably want to copy the /etc/fstab.pre-ntfs-config  over the /etc/fstab   but you want to make sure that's what you need first.10:17
KevinAlaska2what post?  ((taps foot impatiently))10:17
intelikeyreposted for you   ^10:17
epimethwell thanks Jucato!10:17
KevinAlaska2okay.. I will try it and see what happens..10:18
Jucatothank my bookmarks :P10:18
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epimethI'm impressed... nothing was broken today... usually I have to fight with either amarok or knetman... everything loaded just fine this time!10:19
KevinAlaska2is there a way to load into ubuntu wiht out going into X first but just into BASH I guess?  meaning if something happens when I copy the file over?  I dont mind looseing my current config and jsut reinstalling but hay.. if I can avoid it? :)10:19
epimethKevinAlaska2: alt+ctrl+f1/2/3/4/5 at any point10:19
KevinAlaska2EPIMETH.. FIND WOOD FAST and KNOCK on it.. :) just twice though.10:19
flakectrl - alt - F1  from the login screen10:19
KevinAlaska2ahh.. right.. thanks. forgot about those10:19
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intelikeyPhinnFort that page is for getting "back to kde" he never had it yet...     and yes i know it has useful info on his Q  don't get me wrong.  just having to wade through the non-pertanant to get there.10:19
Jucatohm... my head is made of Polyester...10:20
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Jucatopreviously it was made of Plastik10:20
KevinAlaska2polyester is an oil by product.. :P10:20
PhinnFortmy head was previously made of QtCurve, which makes absolutely no sense10:20
epimethKevinAlaska2: but x will still be running in the 6th terminal... in order to not start x at all you have to either set a different default initlevel or remove kdm from initlevel 610:20
epimethor is it 7th terminal?  I can never remenber10:20
KevinAlaska2right.. init 5 and 3 right?10:20
KevinAlaska2just not zero10:21
Jucatoactually I heard Kubuntu does something weird with runlevels...10:21
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Jucatoor rather Ubuntu (Kubuntu follows suit)10:21
epimethbtw... inittab doesn't exist anymore... where can I set/get my default init level nowadays?10:21
flakeI do who -a  and I get me plus tty0-tty6, system boot and something else.. guess that's normal10:21
epimethJucato: it's not weird... just different from most distros10:21
KevinAlaska2Intelikey, should I try that copy of pre-ntfs in the terminal then now?  and with or with otu the plug in of the USB?10:22
Jucatoepimeth: no I meant that it starts kdm from runlevel 3 or something instead of 5.. or something like that...10:22
JucatoI can't recall exactly.. and I'm not a runlevel kind of guy10:22
JucatoI just run :)10:22
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flakedammt I need another machine to spearmint on...  i count 3 i have full control over, and all 3 are as i like them10:22
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KevinAlaska2jucato is bragging.. heh.. as I would. :)10:23
intelikeyKevinAlaska2 may i sujest; sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak ;sudo cp /etc/fstab.pre-ntfs-config /etc/fstab10:23
flakeoww.oowww..  quit fstabbing me10:23
intelikeyKevinAlaska2 and you'll prolly find it the most simple to "reboot" to affect that change.   it's not mandatory if you don't like to reboot.10:24
KevinAlaska2humm.. let me think about if you can sujest that or not.. .... .... ..... ... ahh hell.. sure you can. :)  (all serious.. thanks for the help)10:24
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KevinAlaska2full reboot or control plus alt plus backspace?10:24
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about encrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:24
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!10:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:25
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:25
epimethwho... look who just woke up!10:25
ubotuhydan: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues10:25
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about good morning! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:25
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about loadbalancing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is dead today - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:26
intelikeyone could    sudo umount -a ;sudo umount `cut -d' ' -f2 /proc/mounts `   ;sudo mount -a10:26
defcontalk about lag10:27
intelikeyerrr the second may cause issues if you don't   sudo /etc/init.d/mountver* start10:27
intelikeydefcon yes.10:27
PhinnFortbut is it stable now?10:27
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!10:27
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KevinAlaska2intelikey, rebooting and will be back to let you know about it.10:28
intelikeyhacker/cracker got tired and left... or got what they wanted...10:28
intelikeyKevinAlaska2 ok.10:28
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intelikeyor the owner put a stop to it ?   who knows10:29
PhinnFortseveas just probably restarted it10:29
dregorthwhat might you be speaking of intelikey?10:29
intelikeyif so and my guess is correct it will soon be lagging again10:30
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intelikeydregorth ubotu10:30
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dregorththis is first time here so just sitting back and reading things to get the feel for this place10:30
PhinnForthmm, i can't seem to access the ubotu database with pysqlite10:31
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intelikeyit looked to me like either a serious malfunction (in which case it shouldn't be here right now) or a brute force attack10:31
hydani don't need postfix do i?10:31
hydani selected no configuration.10:31
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intelikeyhydan prolly not.10:32
hydangood, i want to do delete it then.10:32
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intelikeybut something may depend on it.10:32
hydan*but likes so many.10:32
intelikeybetter read the list of things it will take with it.10:32
hydanwill do.10:32
epimethheh... "I'm leaving!  And I'm taking libc6 with me!"10:33
_4strOyop yop10:33
epimethahoy _4strO10:33
intelikeywell not that bad...  Package postfix is not installed, so not removed10:33
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intelikeybut i think something in kde does depend on it10:34
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epimethhii yourself!10:34
intelikeyKevinAlaska what's the word10:34
epimethain't you heard? the birds the word!10:35
KevinAlaskaintelikey "they" say (who the hell ever 'THEY' are!) no word is good word.. but in this case.. I don't think that holds true10:35
LordDeLaCepaI need help10:35
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KevinAlaskano sign of the elusive USB drive....10:35
epimeth!ask | LordDeLaCepa10:36
ubotuLordDeLaCepa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:36
intelikeyKevinAlaska ouch10:36
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intelikeyKevinAlaska pastebin your persent fstab for me.10:36
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LordDeLaCepaI need the nodes, gwebcaches and hostiles.txt lists for giFT, for any net... someone could help me? please...10:36
KevinAlaskaheh... :)  fast question on mounting it via IDE... anything special to that?10:36
KevinAlaskasure.. one ec10:36
boeroehi i have a qtek s200 pda . iwant to synchronise my date with my laptop. anyone knows a progarma like activesync from microsoft that can work unde3r kubyntu?10:36
intelikeyKevinAlaska no nothing special to that.   shouldn't be to this either....10:37
intelikeyboeroe ntpdat10:37
intelikeyboeroe ntpdate10:37
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KevinAlaskathere is also one other fstab file in there... called /etc/fstab.uuid10:38
boeroethx will check it out10:38
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intelikeyKevinAlaska they can't be long   pastebin them all.10:38
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intelikeyboeroe you can sync them both with the network.   pool.ntp.org10:38
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intelikeyntp.org has info about that10:39
intelikeyman ntpdate10:39
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boeroei pute my question wrong, i mean data not DATE, date like adresses pictures etc which are on my pda i want to sync with my laptop10:40
KevinAlaskawait.. correctin.. /etc/stab.pre-uuid10:40
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raulhello please10:40
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rauldo u know way for works projector in kubuntu?10:40
raulnot works for me10:41
KevinAlaskasorry.. was afk with son waking up.10:41
rauli don want use win for presentation :(10:41
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intelikeyboeroe :)10:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
KevinAlaskafor pastebin.com .. just paste in field and give name right?10:42
KevinAlaskaer.. or wrong10:42
intelikeyand give us the URL10:43
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KevinAlaskaI get a --> Query failure: Can't open file: 'recent.MYI'. (errno: 145)10:43
KevinAlaskalock tables recent write10:43
KevinAlaskafigures.. heh10:43
KevinAlaskalet me try another browser.. firefox instead10:43
boeroeoke thx ubotu10:44
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intelikeyNightVVulf you and KevinAlaska are in the same boat.   is this a conspiracy ?10:44
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KevinAlaskasame error different font. figures :(10:45
NightVVulfmust be10:45
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KevinAlaskaare you tracking our location now? O.O10:45
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KimppaHello. Does anyone know a good software for kubuntu for merging pdfs?10:46
flakeKimppa - openoffice ?10:46
intelikeypdf   yuch.10:47
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PhinnFortdarn that bot!10:47
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flakewhy do people put ! in front of words, is it like an info thing?10:47
KevinAlaskawhat the hell.. works in ubuntu.pastebin.com but not jsut pastebin.com?10:47
PhinnFortflake: it should query the bot10:47
PhinnFortflake: the bot parses anything that begins with an !, and should react10:48
intelikeyflake  the bot ubotu recognizes !word as a quarry yes10:48
PhinnFortbut something has happened10:48
PhinnFortand now I try to make a temporary replacement, but I can't read that darn database10:48
KevinAlaskato get themselves first in line in the list.. :)10:48
PhinnFort"pysqlite2.dbapi2.DatabaseError: file is encrypted or is not a database"10:48
flakecool - wonder if someone thought up an irc channel that parses it like a text adventure -  a mmorpg text adventure game10:49
PhinnFortflake: probably;)10:49
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intelikeyKevinAlaska that's the now present fstab ?10:49
Kimppaflake: oh, is there really a pdf merge tool in OO?10:49
flakedon't know, i cut and paste10:49
KevinAlaskacorrect Intelikey10:49
intelikeyKevinAlaska the problem is not there.10:50
Kimppaflake: who said I'm trying to merge pdf files containg text? :)10:50
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flakenever tried it10:50
intelikeyKevinAlaska you need to file a bug report on that.10:50
epimeth"you find yourself on an island by a place wreck, people are milling about confused"10:50
PhinnFortKimppa: sqlite10:50
epimeth"there is a large turbine spinning off to one side"10:50
PhinnFortKimppa: http://ktmatu.com/info/merge-pdf-files/10:51
flake!jump into turbine10:51
PhinnForti mean10:51
epimeth"you see your third grade teacher, she hands you a shoe"10:51
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intelikeyNightVVulf you should confirm KevinAlaska's bug report and/or add your info to it.10:51
epimeth"you can't, as both the shoe and your teacher have dissapeared"10:51
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intelikeyNightVVulf and KevinAlaska in the mean while you can both try to manually mount the drives.      the command syntax is;  sudo mount /dev/something /media/something       where the 'something' can be sdb  or sdb1   or the like.   sudo fdisk -l    should help you find the 'something'10:53
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intelikeyall commands specified are for konsole10:54
NightVVulfyups. I can do that fine. I was just getting tired of doing that every time10:54
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=== epimeth is happy he doesn't have any problems with automounting
KevinAlaskaI am nto sure if this helps any.. but I had this USB drive at my kids school when I was putting there yearbook together.. I had a strange problem on a pair of MacOS 10 computers. computer A all of a sudden cut off the connection I had with the USB drive and they could not be brought up back on the computer (no matter how hard I and a Mac person tried)... but after visiting computer b... it worked again when I went over to computer A10:54
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intelikeyNightVVulf may i sujest for your convienance a script that does the command and a launcher on the desktop10:55
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KevinAlaskaalso now that I have had this problem with this drive.. to get it to work on WinXP.. I have to turn on winxp.. then restart and then unmount it.. at that point it will work again at this comptuer10:55
epimethKevinAlaska: who knows?  give it a shot... plug it into a different kubuntu box and plug it back into yours....10:55
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NightVVulfKevinAlaska: what kind of drive is it?10:56
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KevinAlaskamaxtor 16010:56
intelikeyNightVVulf what command do you type to mount it ?10:56
KevinAlaskaide.. exact model I can get10:56
NightVVulfheh... I am using a Mastor as well...10:56
NightVVulfI was using the standard mount >drive name< to >/home/location name<10:57
intelikeyNightVVulf yes if you give me the exact command i'll write the script for you10:58
NightVVulfhold on... let me find the locations again10:58
KevinAlaskaI should try that exactly like that.. into the other I set up for my kids use... but for being late.. I am thinking I did try that... er.. maybe I dont.. hell time to find out.. brb on useing the usb hdd on the other puter10:58
intelikeyKevinAlaska are you watching this too ?10:59
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KevinAlaskaer... ahh.. that "this" part in your question troubles my understanding of yoru words... :(10:59
NightVVulfdoes it matter where I mount it?10:59
intelikeyKevinAlaska :)10:59
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NightVVulfI was trying to have it availible with the KDE GUI11:00
intelikeyKevinAlaska i'm about to give NightVVulf a command to make him a script to manually mount his'n11:00
KevinAlaskaahhh.. spifty11:00
flakeKimba - 14 day free trial http://www.tucows.com/preview/40670911:00
intelikeyNightVVulf location of the mountpoint doesn't matter to me.11:00
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flakecourse have to try it in wine11:01
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NightVVulfsudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/11:01
heath__how do you get back to the setup which allows you to specify that you want kde to use little system resources as possible on desktop effects11:02
intelikeyok the netxt thing i post will be the full command.  copy and paste it in a konsole.11:02
heath__it has a bar and at the highest end it says that it is recommended for systems with lotos resources11:02
PhinnFortheath__: run "kpersonalizer"11:02
heath__thanks PhinnFort11:03
PhinnFortheath__: you might have to install it11:03
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heath__PhinnFort: it's working :)11:03
KevinAlaskaNightVvulf, was that ment for me to type in? Sorry getting late here...11:03
NightVVulfthat was the mounting command... intelikey was putting together the script11:04
intelikeyecho -e '#!/bin/sh \n\ngksu mount /dev/sda1 /media/ ' > ~/mounter.sh ;chmod 755 ~/monter.sh11:04
heath__thank you again :)11:04
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NightVVulfso... for my learning poposes ... what does this command do?11:04
PhinnFortNightVVulf: it puts the command and some other stuff into a file11:05
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PhinnFortecho just outputs text somewhere11:05
intelikeyNightVVulf when you run that.   then in konqueror file manager navagate to your home and right click on mounter.sh   drag it to the desktop  and link there11:05
NightVVulfdoes it matter if the drive is mounted or un-mounted at the moment?11:05
PhinnFortthe > means it pipes it into the file11:05
KevinAlaskaI am guessing it mounts the physical device of the sda1 to the usable errrr.. file system location at which it is part of the working computer?  my best guess11:06
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PhinnFortintelikey: shouldn't it be "kdesu"11:06
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intelikeythis is kde11:07
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KevinAlaskaheh... palm to forhead moment? :)11:07
intelikeyecho -e '#!/bin/sh \n\nkdesu mount /dev/sda1 /media/ ' > ~/mounter.sh ;chmod 755 ~/monter.sh11:07
intelikeylook better ?11:07
KevinAlaskadid you just type some form of hyroglyphics?  (spelling??)11:07
NightVVulfmmm...  [ chmod: cannot access `/home/nightvvulf/monter.sh': No such file or directory ] 11:08
intelikeyyou can tell i don't actually use kde...11:08
NightVVulfshould I just create the location?11:08
intelikeyecho -e '#!/bin/sh \n\nkdesu mount /dev/sda1 /media/ ' > ~/mounter.sh ;chmod 755 ~/mounter.sh11:08
KevinAlaskawhat do you use?11:08
intelikeyyou left out the u   *11:08
intelikeyKevinAlaska linus11:09
PhinnFortNightVVulf: just open Kate, type in "#!/bin/bash" on the first line and "kdesu mount /dev/sda1 /media/" on the second line11:09
intelikeyand typos11:09
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KevinAlaskaheh.. dell now. :)11:09
intelikeyi get flustered.   when i hurry11:09
PhinnFortNightVVulf: then save it as monter.sh or something, go to the dir in konqueror, and right-click and set executable11:09
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NightVVulfah...... *smiles sheepishly* still learning11:10
intelikeyPhinnFort you did it.  you pointed out a gnome/kde aside and i typoed after correcting...11:10
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PhinnForteverone blames me;)11:11
KevinAlaskaoh the shame.. heh11:11
KevinAlaskaif only I could be so shameful11:11
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PhinnFortif someone sees seveas sometime soon, tell him his code repository is a mess;)11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mergepdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
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PhinnFortyeah, thanks11:12
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dhqhow do i create a virtual lan11:13
intelikeyNightVVulf http://intelikey.pastebin.us/3684011:13
dhqPhinnFort, ???11:13
intelikeyyou might want PhinnFort to proff read it first11:13
KevinAlaskawell I hate doing it but I am all out of finger typing power.  Time for me to pull the computer over before I hurt some kubuntu OS that might be infront of me.11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virtuallan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:13
PhinnFortgreen light from me;)11:14
intelikeyKevinAlaska well said.11:14
dhqPhinnFort, help me out11:14
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KevinAlaskahay.. dont agree with me on such a statement of sell ill will.11:14
defconis guarddog better than firestarter?11:15
KevinAlaskaer.. self ill will11:15
defconcan I activly view logs?11:15
KevinAlaskasee what I mean... logging.. cheers11:15
defconand will it autostart on logon?11:15
intelikeyKevinAlaska only safe pinguin is one that isn't in contact with me....11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virtualnetwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
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KevinAlaskawell in a virtual way you are in contact with each and everyone person logged in this room .. even those who are ''away''.11:16
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).11:16
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intelikeyfirestarter is the gnome version of that  as far as i know11:16
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defconSetting up guarddog (2.5.0-1ubuntu1) ...11:17
defconUnable to start guarddog firewall - /etc/rc.firewall does not exist11:17
intelikeywhy does his nick still autocomplete ?11:18
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PhinnFortdoesn't here11:18
intelikeydefcon you'll have to configure it11:18
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intelikeyoh.  he left the channel but not the network   hehhe    now he's gone.11:19
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intelikeyi've dont that too...11:19
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NightVVulfso... the script works great. Thanks. but I guess I still have a problem. I can't access the mounted drive through the GUI. it needs root privileges. should I just make a root user... or is there a way to make Konqueror promt for a password everytime ?11:20
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intelikeyNightVVulf hehhe  wait i'll give you a replacement.  that was your command.  try mine.   oh and do you have ntfs3g installed ?11:21
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:21
NightVVulfnot sure... checking11:21
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions11:21
intelikeymake it ntfs-3g11:21
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NightVVulfI do now11:22
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NightVVulfyeah sorry about that... I just realized that I am using the standard user setup without root and all... so I can't directly access that location without a superuser status11:23
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intelikeyhere   http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36841    open the script   and open this page and copy and paste the new script into your and save it.    http://intelikey.pastebin.us/3684111:23
heath__is there a way to configure two desktops simultaneously? or, is there a way to install plugins for all users' browsers through root?11:23
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sheldonhi, I'm new to ubuntu, downloaded and installed the fiesty fawn dvd, I can't seem to get adept to use the repositories on the dvd instead of downloading packages, even though I've added the dvd repository, can anyone help?11:23
intelikeyNightVVulf with that one you can11:24
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NightVVulfso basically you want to replace the entire script with your new one?11:25
intelikeysheldon i could be wrong,  but i don't think you can unless you comment out the net repos.11:25
intelikeyNightVVulf yep11:25
intelikeyNightVVulf the new one will both mount and unmount it plus has a setting so you can access it as user without root permission11:26
sheldonthat seems odd, why download the big dvd if I can't install packages off it easily :(11:26
sheldonthanks for the advice though, I'll give it a try quick11:27
intelikeysheldon.  np.11:27
Jucatosheldon: I think you need to disable the online repositories first11:27
NightVVulfmmm... now there is no right click option to make it a exe11:27
JucatoNightVVulf: in Konqueror?11:27
intelikeyNightVVulf doesn't need to be.  you didn't change that did you ?11:27
sheldonwell, I tried putting the dvd repo above all the others, in the hope that if the version online wasn't an upgrade it would use the dvd, and use the net repo's for upgrades from the dvd... but no luck :(11:28
NightVVulfits saved as an .sh file now11:28
NightVVulfis that what it needed to be?11:28
Jucatosheldon: then just disabled the "main" repositories, those that don't have -updates or -security11:28
intelikeyyou edited the one on the desktop not the one in your home ?11:28
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NightVVulfI used kate to make a new one11:29
intelikeyoh new one.   where ?11:29
intelikeydesktop ?11:30
NightVVulfjust in the home folder11:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:30
intelikeysame name ?11:30
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sheldonJucato: e.g. I tried to install firefox, where the online version is exactly the same as the one on the dvd, and it started downloading the .deb file from the online repo... the exact one that's on the dvd :( but I'll just disable all the online repos. thanks guys.11:30
intelikeyyou deleted the old one ?11:30
intelikeyhelp me see what you did !11:31
intelikeythen i can answer what you need to do.11:31
NightVVulfmmm... you want to recap those instructions for me one more time? I must have missed something... as simple as what you have showed me is... I'm tired and might have messed up somewhere11:31
NightVVulfI copied the script into the text editor... then saved it as a .sh file in my users home directory11:32
intelikeyopen the script in your home.   open this webpage "blah" copy the script from the webpage to the editor and save it.11:32
intelikeywell clear the file first cause it was a full rewrite11:32
NightVVulfand I want to save it as what? just double checking11:32
intelikeysame file11:33
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intelikeyor what ever the name was11:33
intelikeythat way the perms are still right.  the link on the desktop is still right.  and you are good to go11:34
reldruhis there a way to tell the computer to shut itself off via dcop?11:34
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reldruhor to hibernate?11:34
intelikeycan dcop send a command ?11:34
Marukohi peopl11:34
Marukojust a question11:34
reldruhthat would work. If it could send a command I could turn it off that way11:35
intelikeytell it to    init 011:35
MarukoI don't have a NVIDIA or ATI card...but a S3 video card...can I install Beryl/Compiz anyway?11:35
reldruhintelikey: come again?11:35
intelikeyreldruh the command   init 0     switches the boxen to runlevel 0 (power off mode)11:36
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reldruhintelikey: and how do I make dcop execute that command?11:37
intelikeyreldruh idk    i asked can you get it to send a command ?11:37
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intelikeywhat about an arg to kdesu ?11:38
reldruhoh, I thought you were asking if getting it send a command would solve my problem11:38
intelikeyor konsole ?11:38
intelikeyreldruh it will.  if you can use dcop to send a command you can send  init 0  and the box will halt11:39
reldruhright, but I don't know how to make it execute a command11:39
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reldruhyou can't run kdcop?11:40
reldruhI thought it was an integral part of kde11:40
intelikeyso of course no docs on it either11:40
intelikeyreldruh it probably is11:40
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reldruhI see11:41
intelikey-root: kdcop: command not found11:41
intelikey-root: dcop: command not found11:41
intelikeyyou have dcop you read the docs11:42
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reldruhhaha, I'm going through them now but all of my searches have turned up naught11:42
NightVVulfintelikey: well apparently I am being an idiot at the moment. I can't seem to make the script work... I will continue trying at a later date. but you think you might be able to tell me what the command in Konsole would be just by itself. I think I can manage with manually doing it for now.11:43
intelikeyNightVVulf chmod 755 ~/mo*11:43
intelikeythen try11:44
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intelikeyreldruh  dcop kdesu init 011:44
intelikeysee if that works ^11:44
intelikeyand when you get back i'll be gone.11:45
reldruhintelikey: kdesu isn't one of my options11:45
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NightVVulfthanks for the help by the way.11:46
intelikeyreldruh wait !   that just reeks of fish.   why do you want to halt someone elses computer ?11:46
reldruhintelikey: not somebody else's, mine11:46
intelikeyreldruh then why not kdesu ?11:46
intelikeyNightVVulf np.11:46
reldruhthere's a gui utility to set up what commands each button executes11:46
reldruhand kdesu isn't one of the dcop options11:47
reldruhit's IRKick11:47
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intelikeyi don't think i followed that......11:48
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intelikeyreldruh are you trying to setup a hotkey for power off ?11:48
reldruhno, a button on a remote11:48
reldruhthe utility I'm using to set up which button does what is IRKick11:48
reldruhand when I tell IRKick that I want a particular button to execute something over DCOP, it gives me a list of applications, and then a list of objects and finally a list of functions11:49
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reldruhkdesu isn't one of the applications I can choose11:49
intelikeynow it makes more sense.    pastebin the list11:49
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reldruhintelikey: http://pastebin.ca/50701911:53
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reldruhperhaps it's ksmserver?11:53
reldruhthere's a logout command there, I'm looking up what the parameters do now11:54
Marukonobody loves me here?11:54
intelikeyreldruh yes ksmserver should work.11:55
intelikeyreldruh kdesktop probably will too  not sure11:55
intelikey18. klauncer  ??? is that a typo ?11:56
reldruhklauncher, I think it's supposed to be11:56
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reldruhyes, a typo on my part11:56
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intelikeyklauncher surely will11:57
reldruhwow, I had no idea alll that functionality was in klauncher11:57
intelikeyhehhe  it's about like   /bin/sh  for the gui11:58
intelikeyall it does is "launch" things11:59
reldruhI just wish I could find better documentation on all this11:59
se7enwhat do i have to do if i would like to format a fat32 inro ext3 the device is /dev/sda811:59
reldruhthe kdcop browser isn't so great at explaining things11:59
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intelikeyse7en sudo mke2fs -cj /dev/sda811:59
intelikeybut you should change the partition type first12:00
intelikeysudo cfdisk /dev/sda12:00
se7enthanks intelikey12:00
intelikeyand only change the partition type on that partition   then write changes to disk and quit   then run the mkfs command12:01
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n0n4m3-can someone help me ?12:01
n0n4m3-in this screen you see12:01
n0n4m3-the xchat12:01
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intelikeyi assumed you wanted to let it check the drive for errors.   if not drop the c12:01
n0n4m3-why is it on a12:01
n0n4m3-background ?12:02
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=== n0n4m3- [a>] [Three Doors Down - Kryptonite (Now, Vol. 5 #17) (2000)] [15%, 0:35/3:55]
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intelikeyn0n4m3- you can change the colours of the app.  look in the menu bar12:02
n0n4m3-how i change it ?12:02
intelikeyin it's menu12:02
n0n4m3-i don't understand you12:03
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intelikeysomething like     edit > preferances > color12:03
intelikeyi don't even use a GUI.12:03
n0n4m3-but how do i change then12:04
n0n4m3-that the names you see12:04
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n0n4m3-that it will be in white12:04
n0n4m3-not in black12:04
intelikeyit's all there in the settings12:04
n0n4m3-i can't find it12:04
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n0n4m3-i try it12:04
intelikeyit's there12:04
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intelikeyyes i did try it yesterday,  it's there12:04
intelikeyok i'm left12:05
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intelikeyi'm went12:05
FriendAnyone here?12:05
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n0n4m3-someone here ?:/12:08
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unamhello la room12:11
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h3athwill someone please help me.12:17
n0n4m3-will somneone12:17
n0n4m3-please help me ?:D12:17
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h3athi'm assuming you need some help to? :P12:18
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adaptrsorry, non help here 4 you12:19
adaptrsmart nick...12:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:19
n0n4m3-h3ath,  yes:P12:19
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n0n4m3-i asked12:19
n0n4m3-you see12:19
n0n4m3-the xchat12:19
n0n4m3-in the right corner12:19
h3ath /sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list crashes and this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22281/12:20
n0n4m3-it has a gray background how can i change it ?12:20
n0n4m3-to black12:20
meuhlolhi all, i need your help to install Epson Stylus CX3200 multifunction printer to my kubuntu feisty fawn12:20
meuhlolplease help12:20
meuhlolit's urgent12:20
h3athi'm trying to configure this system for the family, but it's near impossible w/out the extra repositories.12:20
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meuhlolh3ath: it's normal xD12:22
meuhlolfor bad device it's for wacom tablets12:22
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Jucatoh3ath: use "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"12:23
n0n4m3-can anyone help12:23
n0n4m3-me with my problem ?12:23
secretIs the guy here who was helping me before with installing Kubuntu themes?12:23
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meuhlolh3ath: better: go to /etc/apt right click on sources.list and in Action sub menu do: edit in root mode12:24
secretcant remember his name, dang12:24
secretanyways, i need help with connecting to the network12:24
secretti have an ibm thinkpad laptop with wifi?12:24
secretanyone with links to readable material?12:25
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secretno one here?12:27
meuhlolwhats prob?12:27
secretneed help connecting to my network12:27
meuhlolwhat you use as wifi manager?12:27
secretti have an ibm thinkpad with wifi12:28
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secretIknetwork manager?12:28
secretI dont know, new to kubuntu12:28
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secretok then12:29
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meuhlolsecret you using wpa or wep?12:29
secrethow do know this friend?12:29
secreti have no idea12:30
meuhloltry this12:30
secretok then, thanks12:30
secretalso do i need drivers for my client wifi12:31
secretcisco aironet12:31
secretill read thanks12:31
meuhlolsecret for drivers & others: http://www.google.fr/linux?hl=fr&q=cisco+aironet&btnG=Rechercher&meta=12:32
secretok great, thanks for the help meuglol12:32
meuhlolgoogle linux :p12:32
secreti did, but too confusing man my bad12:32
secretbut i really like linux now12:33
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secretok thanks for all of your help, much appreciated12:33
meuhloli didnt help you i just googled xD12:34
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meuhlolfor wifi i prefer to use kWifiManager12:34
MrC_hi there,wifi radar also is very good12:34
MrC_you can get it from Synaptic12:35
secretwoah man, im going back to windows...12:35
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meuhlolMrC_: yes :)12:35
meuhlolyou scare him :p12:35
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MrC_Does anyone knows how to change the windows style or just install window styles?12:36
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JucatoMrC_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu12:39
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meuhlolMrC_: lol System Config > Appariance12:41
Jucato(actually System Settings)12:41
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n0n4m3-someone please help me ?12:45
heath_now i'm at a loss for what to do, i've uninstalled kubuntu-desktop, and reinstalled.12:45
heath_still kate crashes when it's ran.12:46
meuhlolplease help me to install epson stylus cx3200 :/ i need only scanner12:46
meuhlolfrom this mfp12:46
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meuhlolheath_: reinstall kate xD12:46
n0n4m3-please READ me now12:47
n0n4m3-you see in the tray12:47
n0n4m3-the xchat icon12:47
n0n4m3-on a gray background? how can i change this12:47
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meuhlolsystem config and apparance12:48
n0n4m3-i try it12:48
n0n4m3-but what then ?12:48
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meuhlolor right click on bottom taskbar12:48
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meuhloland do Config12:48
n0n4m3-did it..12:48
meuhlolor Settings something like that12:48
meuhlolafter go to apparance12:49
meuhlolto choose look12:49
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n0n4m3-i don't know what to do12:49
n0n4m3-i tryed12:49
meuhloljucato sorry, im in french xD12:49
eeos Is there a way to scan / refresh the parallel ports manually from the command line in kubuntu?12:50
Jucaton0n4m3-: if I'm not mistaken, I don't think there's a fix for that. not really sure though. maybe because XChat isn't a KDE or Qt app, so it doesn't blend in well. not really sure though12:50
n0n4m3-but i know12:50
n0n4m3-some time12:50
n0n4m3-it was white12:50
n0n4m3-but then suddenly12:50
n0n4m3-but when i installed it12:50
eeosI have a problem with a parallel printer. If we switch the printer off and then on, Mandriva does not realise that the printer has changed status. it simply says the parallel port is busy.12:50
n0n4m3-it was normall12:50
Jucaton0n4m3-: please stop using your Enter key as a punctuation mark...12:50
n0n4m3-but do you know how to change12:50
n0n4m3-ok sorry sorry:D12:50
ejkoo[izlezi] can anybody help me a liitle bit about KUBUNTU?12:51
Jucato(I presume you can tpoe in complete sentences on one line anyway)12:51
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n0n4m3-well do you know how to change then in the taskbar you see the firefox as an example it's written in dark12:51
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n0n4m3-do you know how to change it in white ?12:51
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Jucaton0n4m3-: are you on KDE 3.5.6?12:53
Jucaton0n4m3-: because if you are on 3.5.7, I think there's an option now to change the color of the text in the taskbar12:53
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Jucatobut I can't say for sure, because I'm still on 3.5.6 :)12:53
n0n4m3-I'm on12:53
n0n4m3-eh  it's not that but12:53
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n0n4m3-only the xchat thingy is... so out because of the gray background:D12:54
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meuhloltry KVIrc ;)12:57
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urasomeone can help me with my wireles card?01:12
urai have configured my wireless with ndiswrapper01:12
uraand i have noticed that the eth1 is up01:12
urabut i cannot assign an ip..01:14
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eeoshow do you try to assig it01:17
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sayersHow do I burn a bin/cue with K3B on to a DVD01:24
meuhlolhello :)01:24
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meuhlolsayers: launch k3b, click on "other functions" (dont know how is in english i'm on french)01:25
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meuhlolafter choose "CD Image"01:25
sayersmeuhlol: okay but that is a CD image. I need it to burn on a dvd01:26
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meuhlolchoose your dvd recorder01:28
meuhlolchoose "Burn DVD Iso" something like that01:29
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aleks_youhou !!01:38
aleks_coucou !01:39
aleks_ya du monde didons !01:39
aleks_mais personne qui parle01:39
aleks_trop pur ! ;)01:39
BluesKajpersonne parle francais01:39
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:40
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ccoffeyI have a question. In kubuntu (7.04 anyway) what is handling the XF86 keyboard shortcuts? currently XF86AudioMedia is foregrounding amarok. I would instead like to call the "dcop amarok player showOSD". Where are these shortcuts managed?02:02
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eeos Is there a way to rescan / refresh the parallel ports manually from the command line in kubuntu or using a kde tool?02:10
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coolzgeekCan anyone help me get X to start on boot?02:14
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coolzgeekIs anyone there?02:15
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Moniker42hi, how do i change keyboard type (US/UK) in feisty kubuntu?02:30
martijnanyone here knows why kdevelop 3.4.1 is not part of the kde357 update?02:30
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JucatoMoniker42: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout02:30
Jucatomartijn: probably because it hasn't been packaged for feisty yet... still pending I believe02:31
Moniker42Jucato: 'system' and 'settings' are to seperate menus02:31
JucatoMoniker42: no, the one directly in the K Menu02:31
Jucato(presuming you have a default Kubuntu)02:31
Moniker42K menu?02:32
BluesKajMoniker42, are you using gnome ?02:32
martijn@jucatol; ok, then i'll wait a few days02:32
JucatoI meant the "System Settings" app02:32
JucatoK Menu - KDE Main menu02:32
martijnstart menu :)02:32
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Jucatothe blue square witha white K and a gear logo02:32
Moniker42yes, yes i'm not that clueless ;)02:33
Moniker42but it is my first time using kde...02:33
Jucatojust trying to be more specific :)02:33
Moniker42i never noticed that02:33
Moniker42i was trawling through everything else...02:33
Moniker42woot, UK ;)02:34
Moniker42Jucato: can i add a minimise-everything-to-desktop button?02:35
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icecruncherMoniker42: there should be a little button at the bottom02:37
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Moniker42icecruncher: KDE not gnome02:38
Moniker42unless i'm mistaken...02:38
Moniker42and it's so little i can't see it...02:38
SlimeyPetethere is one on my screen.02:38
icecruncherblue square with a pencil and paper02:38
SlimeyPeteit's big, thrid from left02:38
SlimeyPeteit's a blue square with a pen & paper on it02:38
Moniker42well it's not on mine02:39
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Moniker42SlimeyPete: icecruncher: any idea how to add it then?02:39
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SlimeyPeteif you right-click the bar, you can probably add it from the configuration menus, I imagine02:40
icecruncheradd applet and its called02:40
icecrunchershow desktop02:40
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Moniker42very customisable...02:41
icecrunchersame here02:41
icecruncherand now can anybody ell me how to bake the konsole part of the desktop, so it's in the background02:42
JucatoMoniker42: sorry went afk for a bit. Ctrl+Alt+D also does it02:43
Jucatoicecruncher: what do you mean?02:44
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icecruncherJucato: as in make the konsole part of the desktop02:47
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Jucatorun a Konsole window fullscreen, without borders, with (fake) translucency (so you can see the wallpaper), and always at the bottom02:47
Jucatoor you could use Yakuake :)02:47
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AutoMatriXdoes anybody know if the 'gnome' screensaver called sonar could be used with the KDE desktop ?02:48
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Moniker42time to enable beryl/compiz02:50
Moniker42how do i do that?02:50
Moniker42apt-get beryl-manager?02:50
Jucato!beryl | Moniker4202:50
ubotuMoniker42: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:50
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Jucatooh there02:51
Jucatosee the topic in that channel02:51
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Moniker42thanks Jucato02:51
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Moniker42what's happening with beryl and compiz right now?02:52
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Moniker42i thought they were merging again02:52
icecruncherdunno, aint running it myself02:53
ubuntu_will beryl run properly with Kubuntu ????02:54
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marcI've got beryl running with kubuntu it works pretty good02:54
vbgunzI cannot eject my cdrom tray. when I tried eject -r at the command line, I get this: eject: unable to eject, last error: Input/output error02:54
marceven on my laptop with the lowly i815 driver it runs well although I've not got it tweaked outyet02:55
vbgunzcan someone help me eject my tray?02:55
Moniker42vbgunz: if it's just a one-time error you could just stick a pin/paperclip/smallscrewdriver into the little hole on the front of the drive02:55
Moniker42it ejects it manually02:56
ubuntu_will it work with Nvidia ?02:56
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ubuntu_i got lots of problems when trying to run it on Suse with Gnome02:56
Moniker42but if you experience the problem repeatedly it might be something to bother about :P02:56
marcyes it works especially well with nvidia but you need to use the propriatory driver02:56
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vbgunzMoniker42: I really dont want to manually take out the tray02:56
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vbgunztheres got to be something to make this errro go away or force it to eject02:57
Moniker42vbgunz: it's not a drastic last resort of anything02:57
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Moniker42there's nothing wrong with ejecting your drive like that afaik02:57
icecruncherubuntu_: try on #beryl02:57
vbgunzMoniker I do not have a pinhole or anything that'll help me eject my tray. it looks like I'll have to yank it out or something :(02:58
ubuntu_oh there is a channel __02:58
nomad__any suggestions ?02:58
icecruncherubuntu_: yes02:59
icecrunchernomad__: ?02:59
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Jucatothere's also #ubuntu-effects02:59
jovanscan i use the gutsy/dev kernel in feisty?02:59
Jucatofor beryl and compiz02:59
nomad__[14:51]  <nomad> Mjello02:59
nomad__[14:53]  <nomad> has anyone tried the LMCE1.1beta installer on kubuntu7.04 ?02:59
nomad__[14:53]  <nomad> got some issues with the initial part of the setup, namely the nvidia driver change02:59
nomad__[14:54]  <nomad> it just sits there, and nothing happens :)02:59
jovansor anybody know an third par. mirror/inofficial02:59
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nomad__looks like it got lost somehow :)02:59
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icecruncherjovans: please explain03:01
icecrunchernomad__: sorry no03:01
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nomad__the lmce wiki mentions IRC support, but it didn't give the network or channel :)03:02
jovansexplain??? Hm i want u use a newr kernek 2.6.22 from gutsy does it works on feisty?03:02
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HymnToLifejovans, most likely not, just build your own03:03
nomad__anyone with knowledge of their whereabouts ?03:03
jovanshm any inofficial or third par. repos avalib.?03:03
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HymnToLifejovans, not that I know of, and please try to write correct english03:04
Moniker42"write correct english"?03:04
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Feldegastdoes the kubuntu dvd have a repair option to fix a broken kubuntu install?03:04
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icecruncherFeldegast: is it live or alternate?03:05
Feldegastit's the DVD03:05
Feldegastmy understanding is the DVD has both03:05
icecruncherFeldegast: k then it should have the option, yes03:06
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Feldegasthow do i use it then? my problem is i can't start X as non root03:06
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icecruncherFeldegast: you don;t need to use x03:09
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icecruncherit should be part of the boot options03:09
Feldegastto re-install i know03:09
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Marukohi everyboody03:09
MarukoI just installed beryl-manager03:09
Marukobut don't know where tostart03:10
Marukocan you help me configure it?03:10
icecruncherMaruko: pls try  #ubuntu-effects03:10
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felix_ehmm, the folders kubuntu.org/packages/kde-stable and kde-latest are still outdated...03:12
icecruncherFeldegast: work?03:12
icecruncherfelix_e: you mean 3.57?03:12
felix_eicecruncher: jep03:12
icecrunchermine updated yesterday03:13
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icecruncherand today for that matter03:13
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felix_ehttp://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ <-- thats not 3.5.703:13
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felix_eicecruncher: you changed your sources.list, right?03:14
TorresAlguem do Brasil ?03:14
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Torressomeone of Brazil ?03:15
icecruncherI just updated them then upgraded03:15
gnomefreak!br | Torres03:15
ubotuTorres: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.03:15
felix_eya, sure. my point is: the symlinks kde-latest and kde-stable don't point to the correct location03:15
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Daisuke_Idothat's because the latest available for edgy, to my knowledge, is 3.5.603:15
crazy_busis there any way to clean the memory in linux or something.  Because a program isn't loading because of a seg fault.  And leaving it for around 15minutes usually fixes it.  Is there any way to speed this up?03:15
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felix_eDaisuke_Ido: ok but what's the point? isn't kde-latest supposed to be pointing to the latest kde? i mean... kubuntu's latest version(s) are feisty and dapper. why edgy?03:17
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kdeFREAKFeldegast reinstall keeping the /home intact03:19
Daisuke_Idok-buh wha?03:20
Daisuke_Idodapper's older than edgy.03:20
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felix_eDaisuke_Ido: dapper is LTS03:20
Daisuke_Idoright, and is only supported with security and bugfix updates03:20
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Daisuke_Idoso no kde 3.5.703:20
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Daisuke_Idoedgy has been replaced with feisty, so no 3.5.7 in edgy either03:21
felix_eright. that's why i don't understand why kde-latest points to 3.5.6 for edgy instead of 3.5.7 for feisty03:21
Daisuke_Idofeisty defaults to 3.5.6, but there are repos for 3.5.703:21
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felix_ei think you're missing the point03:21
sjapbnc5Anyone know a good Unrarrer03:21
Daisuke_Idobecause they haven't updated it to show feisty?03:21
Jucatofelix_e: because kde-latest points to the latest kde for the particular release03:21
Daisuke_Idosjapbnc5: unrar.03:22
sjapbnc5with graphical interface03:22
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Daisuke_Idounrar with ark03:22
sjapbnc5Yea i dont know how to use that.03:22
sjapbnc5Well ark03:22
Jucatosjapbnc5: install unrar and you can do it with ark03:22
sjapbnc5aah ok03:22
felix_eJucato: no. kde-latest points to the latest kde for edgy.03:22
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Jucatofelix_e: yes. edgy's kde-latest will point to the latest KDE for Edgy. it will not point to the kde-latest for Feisty03:22
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Jucatoas that will break things03:22
felix_ethere is no "edgy's kde-latest"03:22
felix_ethere is exactly one kde-latest03:23
felix_eit is located here: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/03:23
Daisuke_Idobecause kde-latest for feisty is installed by default03:23
felix_eand it points to the wrong location03:23
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: nope. feisty installs kde 3.5.603:24
Daisuke_Ido3.5.7 hasn't made it into the official repos yet03:24
Jucatofelix_e: then probably that mirror has not be updated03:24
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JucatoDaisuke_Ido: if you mean by official, the ubuntu.com repos, they never do03:24
bernierHi, I know i have 1168,8mb of unused space on my disk. Is there a way I can create  a swap file with it?03:24
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Jucatoand there's not 3.5.7 for edgy. whether there will be.. I don't know03:25
felix_eJucato: isn't kubuntu.org the main download site for (unofficial) kubuntu-packages? also, kubuntu.org already has
felix_ei don't think its an synchonisation issue.03:25
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felix_esomebody forgot to update the symlink.03:25
crazy_busI typed clearlinks and accidently deleted around 10 empty folders.  Is there anyway to undo this?03:25
felix_ei just wanted to report that.03:25
felix_ebut it seem jriddel isn't here anyway03:26
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Jucatofelix_e: because his IRC nick is Riddell03:26
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felix_eRiddell: could you update kde-latest and kde-stable? thanks.03:27
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Daisuke_Idofelix_e: if you use edgy, you won't be getting 3.5.7 right away if at all, and if you use feisty, the repos are already there.  so what exactly are you complaining about?03:29
felix_eDaisuke_Ido: the transition 3.5.6 -> 3.5.7 should be happening automatically for a feisty user who uses kde-latest.03:30
felix_ethat's the whole point of this symlink.03:30
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HobbseeDaisuke_Ido: wont be at all.03:32
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Jucatooh hi Hobbsee!! taking this chance to ask you about kdevelop 3.4.1 :D03:33
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Jucato(on feisty of course :P)03:33
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HobbseeJucato: build it..03:34
HobbseeJucato: build it in a chroot, and get Ridde*ll to upload it.03:35
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Jucatoah ok. :)03:35
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seanI'm trying to play a DVD and the picture has the green of the picture in the top-left, with a purple shadow in the bottom right. Is this region protection or something?03:41
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seanI also get this from kaffeine: libdvdnav: Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!03:44
seanbut my DVD drive played dvd's before..03:44
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sivajiwhat is the command to display root password03:48
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ardchoillesivaji: There is no root password, use sudo03:48
Jucatothere is no such command03:48
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ardchoille!sudo | sivaji03:49
sivajiwhat is command will do "sudo passwd -l  root"03:49
ardchoilleIs ubotu not displaying bot triggers anymore?03:49
ardchoillesivaji: That is not recommended nor supported.03:50
ardchoillesivaji: That will lock the root account, but it should already be locked.03:50
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acp_hey ppl, someone can help me selecting my default sound card ? in gnome I just simply enter to the configuration panel and select if I want onboard sound or my soundblaster, but In KDE i can't find it via GUI03:58
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acp_hey ppl, someone can help me selecting my default sound card ? in gnome I just simply enter to the configuration panel and select if I want onboard sound or my soundblaster, but In KDE i can't find it via GUI04:01
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afd__hi guys! I'm using kubuntu and all the gtk open file dialogs are 1.) very small windows (although can be resized) 2.) it hides everything except the media and home folder in the root.04:02
dr_willisi wonder if im the only one in the world that disables obboard sound in the bios settings.. :)04:02
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afd__what can be done about my problems04:03
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dr_willisthe hiding stuff in root is a feature04:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:08
ubotuKubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:08
dr_willisit was a feature. removed in feisty now.04:08
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afd__dr_willis: I'm using feisty04:08
dr_willisdid you upgrade? or do a clean install?04:08
afd__upgrade from dapper > edgy > feisty04:08
dr_willisthats proberly the issue then. check that wiki page on how to disable the hidden feature04:09
afd__I may even had had breezy here04:09
afd__which wiki page?04:09
afd__oh, sorry04:09
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Daisuke-Idoyou truly are a masochist04:09
afd__I saw it now04:09
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afd__well, the upgrade sometimes fails (actually almost always) but I usually remove with dpkg -r the packages that are broken and then continue the upgrade04:10
dr_willisi tend to keep /home on its own hd. and just do clean reinstalls. :)04:10
afd__it never happened that I got a broken machine04:10
afd__although I usually upgrade to the alphas04:10
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afd__or betas04:10
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afd__dr_willis: thanks :)04:11
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afd__I thought gtk doesn't have right click menus in file dialogs, so I didn't even check that04:12
sparrwwhere might i get the efivars kernel module?04:12
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epimethis anybody using the kde 4 beta?  just want to hear about experiences and suggestions on whether or not to jump into it?04:15
MrC_hi there04:15
MrC_I have a question to ask,04:15
epimeth!ask | MrC_04:15
ubotuMrC_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:15
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MrC_I was doing the update via terminal and it appear this line The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:04:16
MrC_  liborbit2-dev libsm-dev gstreamer0.8-jpeg libgnomeui-dev plib1.8.4-dev04:16
MrC_  libice-dev x11proto-xext-dev libneon26 libtasn1-3-dev gstreamer0.8-festival04:16
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MrC_is it safe to remove them?04:16
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dr_willisbut they proberly aint hurting anything either.04:17
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MrC_and then Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them04:17
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LenningsHello, i have a problem... Ive downloaded cinelerra 2.1 and extracted... But when i type sudo ./configure this output comes up:kim@Uber:~$ cd '/home/kim/vrigt/cinelerra-2.1'kim@Uber:~/vrigt/cinelerra-2.1$ sudo ./configure./configure: 47: Syntax error: Bad fd number    What's wrong?04:17
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pagepimeth, kde4 is still alpha ;) And afaik it's rather unstable, so I wouldn't reccomend using it as a main system04:18
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Feldegastso if i do a fresh install and don't format /home i won't loose any of my stuff in /home?04:19
Feldegast.... /home is a seperate partition04:19
dr_willisi keep /home on its own drive. and tel the installer to NOT format it.04:20
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dr_willisactually i dont even let the isntaller  mount it. I edit the fstab later to mount it..04:20
dr_willisthat way im extra sure. :)04:20
Feldegastdo u add the user in the installer or do it later?04:20
linuxbombdr_willis: whooo04:20
dr_willisi add the one user i use. :)04:20
dr_willisthen i fix /home tobe where i want it to be.04:21
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Feldegasthere goes a format then04:21
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dr_willisof coursei always backup my /home just in case. :)04:22
Feldegastit's prolly time i did 1, havn't formatted since i installed 6.0604:23
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epimethpag: I coulda sworn I heard it was beta now... whups :-)04:23
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epimethI gotta say, I can't wait for it to come out... the icons are stunning and I'm already using dolphin, anyway... so I won't have any new things to have to get used to :-004:24
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amachui cannot burn DVD-R using K3B04:25
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amachuwhile it sails smooth with regard to DVD-RW04:26
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sudobashtry DVD+R04:26
sudobashyour drive might be better suited with dvr+r use04:26
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amachusudobash: means?04:27
uraplease help me to understand this problem: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory04:27
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urathis error appear when i write : sudo ifconfig eth1 up04:28
urasomeone can help me?04:28
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MrC_Has anyone in the US(in here) already bough the Dell pc/notebook with Ubuntu pre-installed already?04:29
dr_willisi dident think you used the up option that way04:29
dr_willisMrC_,  given that they just came out today.. :)04:29
dr_willisi d frogotten about them! thanks Mc!04:29
dr_willisi gotta go look04:29
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MrC_i know it just comed today,but some freaks my buy it04:30
LenningsAfter release of Vista. there were 2 million downloads of fedora Linux a week during release of Vista, and 8 million new users to Ubuntu in the last 3 months. This was their plan when buddying up with Novell, do use legal issues to attempt to either scare to control their market share. MAC sales increased also (which I'm sure you knew) Also Best Buy increased their models of MAC in stores nation wide. DOD, California, Indiana, French04:30
LenningsParliament, Cuba have switched to Linux. MS has lost ground.04:30
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LenningsHello, i have a problem... Ive downloaded cinelerra 2.1 and extracted... But when i type sudo ./configure this output comes up:kim@Uber:~$ cd '/home/kim/vrigt/cinelerra-2.1'kim@Uber:~/vrigt/cinelerra-2.1$ sudo ./configure./configure: 47: Syntax error: Bad fd number    What's wrong?04:31
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MrC_I know,Bill Gates is rich already ,i don't think he will mind about that04:31
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dr_willisMicroSoft is allready ticked off about it.04:32
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dr_willisStarting price for the E520n desktop and the E1505n notebook is $599; the XPS 410n starts at $899.04:32
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dr_willisStarting price for the E520n desktop and the E1505n notebook is $599; the XPS 410n starts at $899.04:34
dr_willisso.. im guessing that NO ONE has bouight one yet. :)04:34
dr_willisThese systems will be available at www.dell.com/open by 4pm CST today.04:34
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MrC_Some friend of my in the UK bought a pc and her got some money back because he didn't want Vista04:35
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
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dr_willisi dont even see the specs for the E520n on their web site04:38
dr_willisahh that is in the desktop area! :004:39
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LenningsHow do you know how to install cinnerella?04:39
dr_willis!invo cinnerella04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about invo cinnerella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:39
LenningsI cant figure it out04:39
dr_willisthat a video editing program?04:39
dr_willisI recall it being rather dumb in that are last i used it.04:40
dr_willis!info cinnerella04:40
ubotuPackage cinnerella does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:40
dr_willisunless itsin the repos by now. guess not04:40
Lenningsi tryd extracting and typing: ./configure04:40
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Lenningsi got this syntax error thing04:40
ScottishDuckHuntlo kubuntu helpers04:40
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dr_willishttp://www.cinematography.com/forum2004/lofiversion/index.php?t13334.html  has some info on it.. but they install the rpms which is not a good idea04:41
kumamotodon't know if that will help on the cinelerra issue04:41
kumamotoHow to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft04:41
ScottishDuckHuntI'm having burning issues with my feisty DVD,i checked the MD5, tried X1 burn speed etc but no success, any halp?04:42
ubotucinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu04:42
dr_willisthere ya go! :004:42
dr_willisScottishDuckHunt,  i never bother with the dvd. the cd works good enough forme.04:42
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dr_willisScottishDuckHunt,  what is it not doing? what program are ya burning it with?04:42
ScottishDuckHuntI have tried alcohol 120%04:43
ScottishDuckHunti believe i need the DVD because i need ndiswrapper for my usb wireless adapter04:43
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ScottishDuckHuntand installing ndiswrapper offline is a pain04:43
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dr_willisScottishDuckHunt,  im not even sure the dvd includes that stuff.04:44
ScottishDuckHunti checked the list, it does :)04:44
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dr_willisyou my want to try some different burning software.  - IF you got the dvd burnt. you could install from a cd. then access the packages from the dvd04:44
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dr_willisThen again - ive about given up on wireless totally for now. :P04:45
ScottishDuckHuntmaybe you can help me with ndiswrapper instead?04:45
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dr_willisnever used it.04:45
ScottishDuckHunti cant ever get it to install in (K)ubuntu04:45
LenningsSry i was afk04:45
dr_willisonly recently has using the wireless in my Laptop became easy04:46
pisqAmyRose, what KDE are you using?04:46
ScottishDuckHuntcompiling simply doesnt work :/04:46
dr_willisfeisty + fwcutter worked good.04:46
dr_willisbut wireless networking cards are the new Win-modem-Fiasco04:46
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dr_willisbut it IS getting better04:46
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ScottishDuckHuntthat is true04:47
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ScottishDuckHunti wish i had a laptop, linux has all the drivers for laptop hardware :(04:47
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ScottishDuckHunti might just roam around some distros, try my luck :)04:48
ScottishDuckHuntLinux Mint has always been good to me :)04:48
dr_willisHuh.. all the drivers for laptop?04:48
ScottishDuckHuntpretty much04:48
dr_willisnot exactly. :) but its getting better04:48
DaSkreechdr_willis: Just had that discussion last night04:48
kumamotoLuv Mint too04:48
ScottishDuckHuntLaptop > PC for linux though04:48
dr_willisLinux Mint - is ubuntu + some perhaps less then legal stuff on it..  ive tested it out. In fact its Onmy laptop at the moment.04:49
LenningsGah! im fucking tired of all these install problems... Fuck this shit! im out for a smoke04:49
dr_willisUBUNTU is one of the BEST disrots ive had running on my laptop.04:49
kumamotoDoes the Mint with KDE look better than kubuntu04:49
pisqI want a laptop too. but people still want me to pay  for it. I want something for nothing.04:49
LjL!language | Lennings04:49
ubotuLennings: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:49
ScottishDuckHunti know its a flavour of ubuntu and, yes, the codec support does seem less than legal04:49
dr_williskumamoto,  mint + kubuntu desktop = identical look to kubuntu04:49
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dr_willisLinuxMint is the neat kind of project.. that could .. err.. vanish. over night. :)04:50
kumamotodr_willis: really?04:50
ben_can anyone here help me to get madwifi working?04:50
dr_williskumamoto,  thats what i got on my laptop04:50
ScottishDuckHuntPCLinuxOS is by far the best looking KDE desktop imo :)04:50
dr_willisMint + ubuntu-desktop+kiubuntu-desktop+xubuntu-desktop04:50
dr_willislast i tried PClinuxOS it wouldent eveb boot/install properly04:50
dr_willisits seems to be one of the.. well.. lets say..  not as well done disrtos out.04:51
kumamotoI have Mint on VM and it looks way cooler than ubuntu itself04:51
ScottishDuckHuntMy problem with PCLinucOS is that it was just TOO easy, no freedom, a bit like mac04:51
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dr_willisof course I would Love to see the disrto makers have a "Vanilla KDE/Gnome" option04:51
kumamotoam talking here default install and not customization04:51
dr_willisScottishDuckHunt,  my problem with it was withit not working at all. :)04:51
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kumamotoanyway as long as they work04:51
ben_anyone know how to setup madwifi? i can't seem to get it working04:51
DaSkreechdr_willis: you can install vaniall kde04:51
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ScottishDuckHuntIf i had the choice i would use SUSE, its the perfect distro in my opinion, it just lacks the driver support i need :(04:52
dr_willisDaSkreech,  yep. id love to see all disrto makers have it as a simple option however.04:52
DaSkreechdr_willis: kinda goes against the point of a Distro :)04:52
ben_madwifi anyone?04:53
dr_willisDaSkreech,  not really. "click here for the standard kde desktop"  - "Click here for our bastarized variant that the books/docs/help you get - will not know where stuff is at"04:53
dr_willisplus from what ive seen of the kde/gnome customizations done by most disrtos.. they dont add much more then frills and bells..04:53
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dr_willisGuess its getting where  the only outstanding feature OF many disrtos is the bells/whistles/extras04:54
ScottishDuckHuntDr. Willis: there is, in the end, only 5 or so ACTUAL varients of linux though.04:54
DaSkreechdr_willis: yeah but if the main point of the distro is to give you a new version why would htye have an option for vanilla?04:54
Feldegast"downloading package lists" the cancel buton should be "skip" not "cancel"04:54
dr_willisDaSkreech,    new version of the Standard/Vanilla KDE  :)04:54
Feldegastas cancel to me is like abort everything04:55
dr_willisthat reminds me - the new kde is out now.. 3.5.7?04:55
ScottishDuckHuntKDE 4 soon *_*04:55
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ChousukeFeldegast: You should file a bug report then.04:55
ScottishDuckHuntyes 3.5.7 is out04:55
ScottishDuckHuntThe main reason i use KDE is for Amarok lol04:55
dr_willisjust bug fix's mainly aint it?04:55
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DaSkreechScottishDuckHunt: You know you can install it in Gnome Right?04:56
ScottishDuckHuntno real need for upgrade04:56
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ScottishDuckHuntDaskreech: yes, but it runs through a KDE style emulator :)04:56
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KMoniker42can i get a KDE skin for firefox?04:56
DaSkreechScottishDuckHunt: What?04:57
ScottishDuckHuntPlus KDE is shinyer :)04:57
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DaSkreechWhat emulator?04:57
DaSkreechthe greenphone?04:57
The_MachineI'm using kubuntu feisty and it isn't autodetecting USB drives that i'm plugging in - little help?04:57
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots04:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
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ScottishDuckHuntDaScreech: In order for Amarok to run in a GNOME enviroment it requires the KDE enviroment to (sort of) run in the backround, a bit of a rescource hoar :)04:58
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ScottishDuckHuntim tryin to keep it clean =/04:58
Jucatonot all of KDE. just kdelibs. and that's not big04:58
ScottishDuckHunti failed04:58
The_Machineit's okay, you're Scottish.04:59
The_Machinewe understand.04:59
DaSkreechScottishDuckHunt: Yeah as all my friends say if you are going to use one KDE app you might as well jsut start getting used to them04:59
DaSkreechEither pure gnome or KDE04:59
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dr_willisfirst thing i do is install kubuntu-destop,ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop :)04:59
dr_willisI want a WindowMaker-Desktop!05:00
ScottishDuckHuntwhy XFCe?05:00
rothchild@The_Machine usb drives is a bug05:00
dr_willisfor the wife. :)05:00
ScottishDuckHuntits kinda useless imo05:00
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ScottishDuckHunti used Xubuntu once, it was hellish =/05:00
rothchildit's in launchpad but doesn't look like there's gonna be anything done about it05:00
dr_willisi also tend to use xfce for my vnc sessions05:00
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ScottishDuckHuntany1 here tried Sabayon?05:01
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Feldegastwell the re-install failed, i still have the bug, so it must be in my user05:01
The_Machineit is?  that sucks!05:01
The_Machinei need to get info off of it!05:01
The_Machinedo i have to boot into windows? :/05:01
rothchildnah there's a work around05:02
rothchildhold up I'm just looking for ya05:02
The_Machinesweet - it's showing up in KInfoCenter05:02
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rothchildpmount-hal /dev/sdb05:04
rothchildis what you're looking for I think05:04
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rothchildobviously replace sdb with whatever your drive has been assigned in /dv05:04
rothchildsorry /dev05:05
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rothchildit's not a showstopper but it's not newb friendly either, it's not gonna encourage converts imo all this type of stuff should 'just work'05:07
markowhich pakeges i need for qt development05:08
markoi try to compile qt code05:08
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markobut it doesent work05:08
epimethoohhhhh.... finally, something about the automount thing!  pmount!  now I'm wondering if it has any conf files?05:08
epimethyou know, so I can tell it to mount my ipod to /media/ipod instead of /media/FRED05:08
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epimethrothchild: you know anything about it?05:09
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Chousukeno ;P05:10
LjLDaSkreech, unless you have like 4 gigs of ram, no it's not...05:10
LjLyou'll run out of RAM in no time05:10
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DaSkreech3.5 :-(05:10
=== Chousuke would like a system that runs completely off RAM
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Chousukebut I can't afford anything like that :(05:10
DaSkreechChousuke: I'd like enough money to buy The South pacific as well :)05:10
rothchildsorry I'm little more than noob myself my ipod (well my girls) mounts to media/sarahs_Ipod05:11
Chousukea real nice solution would be a laptop with ~8GB of RAM and some 10GB solid state disk05:11
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The_Machineone moment05:11
rothchildmaybe if you rename your ipod to ipod it'll work05:11
Chousukeboot the OS from the solid state disk and save documents to it on shutdown05:11
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DaSkreechChousuke: And cry when there is an Electrical storm05:12
The_Machinemy system doesn't run completely off of ram05:12
The_Machinebut with 2.5 GB05:12
The_Machinemy swapfile use is 1%05:12
The_Machinejust upgraded05:12
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The_Machinenice stuff :)05:12
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The_Machinerunning a vmware server with a gig dedicated to it05:12
epimethactually... you can build a relatively cheap beuwulf cluster with a whole lot of ram... that should be enough to run kubuntu off of ram...05:12
ChousukeDaSkreech: would that affect laptops with a battery? :)05:12
Chousuke1GB should be enough to run Kubuntu off RAM05:13
epimethrothchild: so you're a comedian, eh? :-p05:13
Chousukebut more would be nicer.05:13
epimethChousuke: yea, but not update to 3.5.7 :-005:13
epimethwhy do I keep missing the shift lately???05:13
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Chousukewell, obviously not.05:14
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Ace2016Hi all05:14
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epimethhi Ace201605:14
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Ace2016Anyone know what the requirements for suspend to work are? do i need any swap, and does it have to be bigger than my ram? i have 900mb of swap at the mo but i have 1.25 gb of ram05:15
Chousukeyou need at least as much swap as you have RAM05:16
epimethshouldn't you have ~2x swap:ram ratio?05:16
Ace2016Chousuke: oh :( and all my partitions are xfs :(    (apart from boot but thats almost all full up of kernels)05:16
ChousukeAce2016: you can make a swap file05:16
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Chousukeor is there something wrong with making swapfiles on xs?05:17
Ace2016epimeth: nope, that was in the old days when systems had very little ram, like 64mb of ram05:17
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Ace2016you can make a swap file???? i thought it had to be a partition05:17
ChousukeAce2016: nah, any file will do05:17
rothchildnah just dumb sorry! ;-)05:17
epimeththats what I was told is ideal for most configurations... of course the ratio goes down as your ram increases...05:17
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ChousukeAce2016: you create a empty file full of zeros, and then mkfs.swap it, and mount it like you would a swap partition :)05:18
Chousukeor I think it's mkswap05:18
Ace2016thats great thanks05:18
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ChousukeAce2016: you can use dd to make the file05:18
epimethAce2016: but the O/S is still geared towards using the swap file in a certain way... specifics I won't get into as we had a 3 hour lesson just for that :-)05:18
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Ace2016epimeth: where can i get a lesson?05:20
epimethso while its not necessary to have a 2x swap, you might actually experience a slower speed because your swap file isn't big enough...05:20
epimethAce2016: at uni... the course is called "Operating Systems"05:20
Ace2016oh, they do a course on how to use a computer?05:20
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=== Ace2016 would take it if it was about linux and freebsd
epimethgot an 82 on the final.... stupid multiple choice questions....05:21
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epimethAce2016: no, its about theory of operating systems... now and then he'll say "windows does this, linux does that" but no specifics really...05:21
epimethits more like "so what are some ways to organize files on a hard disk?"05:22
epimeth"at first we started with a file access table (FAT).  Hard drives were so-and-so sized so 8 bits per file were enough (FAT8)"05:23
rothchildThe_Machine did you get your drive mounted?05:23
epimeth"then hard drives got bigger so we expanded to 16 bits per file"05:23
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LjLwindows keeps your interactive applications in RAM. linux on the other hand, if it deems an application unnecessarily, will swap it out into oblivion with no mercy :)05:23
epimetha question on the exam would be "given a hard drive with size so-and-so, how big would a FAT16 table be in order to store all the data?"05:24
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michaelcan someone tell me what this lin e means05:24
michaelDIR=$(sed -ne "s:^FIRMWARE_DIR=\([^, ] *\).*:\1:p" \05:24
LjLepimeth: interesting topics *yawn* :P05:24
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Ace2016epimeth: makes you wonder why no one just thought, well since we're going to have to jump to 16 bits, why not just add support for everything up to 1mb already so that everone starts using this filesystem05:24
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michaelthat is the line in my ipw3945 install that it says after, wget, but i dont get that05:24
epimethAce2016: because "nobody will ever need more than 64Kb"05:24
defryskepimeth, whats the point of that question , fat16 is obsolete05:25
LjLmichael: assigns to a variable called DIR the output of a sed command which reads the file /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent and does something to it before outputting it05:25
michaelconfusing, eitherway, it didnt seem to work right05:26
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epimethI was giving a simple example... the only question about hard drives on the exam was "Linux uses which schema for file and directoy management? a)inode b)fat32 c)ntfs"05:26
LjLmichael: i'm not entirely sure what sed does, as i don't know what the "p" flag is05:27
dr_willisschema ?05:27
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epimethfirst word that came to mind... its all in hebrew!05:27
dr_willissed is the stream/editor05:27
michaelljl, when i put that command in it basically brings up a prompt /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent >05:27
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