LarstiQsurak: do be aware that most of how he'll be using launchpad will be in the open.12:17
surakLarstiQ : I understand.12:18
surakbac, LarstiQ, 12:23
surakthanks for your attention. Good night!12:23
bacgood night surak12:23
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matt001Hi, Im trying to sign the code of conduct, however I have having a problem with the OpenPGP keys part12:31
matt001I think that I have sent the key to keyserver.ubuntu.com, but that was 2 hours ago12:31
matt001however I get an error handling request when querying the ubuntu key server12:32
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laszlokhey launchpad people, is there anyway to offer to mentor *all* bugs in my project (without clicking them one by one)?12:32
laszlokhow about an "Offer to mentor for this project" which would apply to everything, and then I can figure out the details when someone wants to be mentored shows up12:34
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mptlaszlok, not at the moment unfortunately01:00
mptbut you can add words to that effect to the project description01:01
mptmatt001, if you still have that problem, perhaps you could ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad01:02
mptso people can help you solve it when they're awake01:02
laszlokk thanks mpt01:03
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matt001thank you01:03
mptkiko-afk, that idea of yours for letting people enter why they're leaving Launchpad is brilliant01:04
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matt001Hi, is there an offical kubuntu project in launchpad?02:04
Hobbseematt001: it's ubuntu02:04
LaserJockspecifically, Kubuntu comes from the ubuntu software repos so most of the bug tracking, repo management, etc. is done in the same place02:05
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matt001I see, I've found the kubuntu Users group that I have joined, thank you02:23
kiko-afkmpt, thanks!02:58
kiko-afkout for dinner, bbiab02:58
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Hobbseekiko-afk: great pictures02:59
Hobbseekiko-afk: (of UDS)03:00
ajmitchooh, where?03:00
Hobbseeajmitch: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kikidonk/499593693/in/set-72157600217895060/03:02
ajmitchheh, kikidonk != kiko03:04
Hobbseesomeone posted it in -sevilla earlier :P03:04
Hobbseeso i've got no idea who kikodonk is, if it's not kiko03:04
ajmitchanother mad frenchman, telepathy hacker03:05
Hobbseewhich might explain some more of the gnome-type people pictures.03:06
Hobbseeokay, ignore what i said then.03:06
ajmitchbelgian, sorry03:06
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pochuHi there! Is there any problem with librarian.lp.net? It doesn't load here, but every other lp page opens fine.10:02
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seb128launchpad seems to have problems10:07
seb128it's sloooooow10:07
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pochuAnd it's giving proxy errors for librarian.lp.net10:08
pochuWorks now :)10:10
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mptbac, was my feedback on the download page design useful?01:57
bacmpt: yes, in parts, thank you.01:57
baci don't think i'd given you complete context, so some of what you suggested wasn't applicable01:58
baci'm open to further improvements, of course01:58
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TeTeTis there any way to remove a deactivated member of a team, e.g. it is no longer listed on +members?02:25
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salgadoTeTeT, not yet, but since the status is deactivated (s)he is not actually a member02:28
salgadoI have a branch which make that clearer by listing inactive members as "Former members"02:28
TeTeTsalgado: ok, so it's safe to leave them alone02:28
salgadoyep, it is02:28
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TeTeThow do I add a milestone for a project?02:59
lifelessjamesh: are you still allocating reviews? I get back next week.03:02
lifelessSpads: you should be back to normal now in terms of reviews - you still have a holiday listed03:02
lifelessSpads: sorry03:03
lifelessspiv: ^ meant you03:03
lifelesssalgado: can I ask for an insta-review?03:03
salgadolifeless, sure. can it be in 15 minutes?03:03
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TeTeTlet me rephrase my question: how do I get to +milestones without entering the URL manually?03:08
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salgadoTeTeT, the top-level menu has an item which links to milestones03:13
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salgadoTeTeT, the "Active milestones" portlet also has a link to that page03:14
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TeTeTsalgado: the top-level as in overview/code/bugs/...?03:16
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salgadoTeTeT, no, that's not a menu. the (well hidden?) menu is displayed when you hover the mouse over the breadcrumbs on the top of the page03:17
TeTeTsalgado: oerks, thanks03:18
TeTeTsalgado: so I see there is no milestone03:18
TeTeTI go to blueprints, select one and want to register it's implementation as milestone, but this does not seem to be the right place03:19
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RinchenOgMaciel, congrats dude.03:56
OgMacielthanks Rinchen03:57
sinzuiI don't think the developer meeting date in the topic is right. Maybe I'm a week late.03:57
kikohello hello03:57
=== ..[topic/#launchpad:Rinchen] : Launchpad 1.0, https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 24 May 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
statikam I in the right place?03:57
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danilosstatik: yeah, you just picked the wrong time ;)03:58
Rinchenstatik, feeling better?03:58
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statikRinchen: yes, thanks03:58
carlosdanilos: I don't see the "filter option for 'new suggestions'" bug03:58
daniloscarlos: I'd spec that up, I don't think there's a bug... or do you think a bug is enough?03:59
Rinchenstatik, great.  Cool tool alert: http://us.kensington.com/html/12632.html03:59
Rinchenstatik - fits inside your pcmcia slot :-) 04:00
carlosdanilos: a bug should be enough, it's not so complex, is it?04:00
daniloscarlos: no, ok04:00
statikRinchen: neat! will it work with ekiga, or does it need special software on the PC?04:00
Rinchenstatik, I'll let you know when it arrives next week. :-)   Just Stephane's program should do the trick.04:00
carlosSteveA: meeting time?04:00
SteveAwelcome to this week's Launchpad Developers' meeting!04:01
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SteveAFor the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating launchpad development04:01
kikoclap clap04:01
SteveAwho is here today?04:01
SteveAmwhudson: ?04:02
kiko20-odd people04:02
mptYes, we're very odd04:02
SteveARinchen: ?04:02
Rinchen<Rinchen> me04:02
SteveAso you are, thanks04:02
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RinchenI'm seeing double.04:03
SteveAwith so many people, I'd like to ask that people look out for their team-mates at these meetings04:03
SteveAbe responsible for seeing that your team-mates are here04:03
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cprovlifeless apologizes, he will be 20 min late.04:03
SteveAon to het agenda04:03
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SteveAum, the agenda.  getting a bit dutch there04:03
SteveAmrevell sends apologies -- on vacation04:04
SteveA== Agenda ==04:04
SteveA * Roll call04:04
SteveA * Agenda04:04
SteveA * Next meeting04:04
SteveA * Actions from last meeting04:04
SteveA * Oops report (Matsubara)04:04
SteveA * Bug report ([wiki:JoeyStanford/topweeklybugs Current Top Items] )04:04
SteveA * Bug tags04:04
SteveA * Production update (mthaddon)04:04
SteveA * DB update (stub)04:04
SteveA * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] )04:04
SteveA * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)04:04
SteveA * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell)04:04
SteveA * Encouraging more pre-implementation phone calls (barry)04:04
SteveA * (other items)04:04
SteveA * Team three sentences ([wiki:ProjectTeams Team List] )04:04
SteveAI have a note about the meeting agenda.  When you add items to the meeting agenda, please preserve the line:04:04
matsubarajamesh: ping?04:04
SteveA  * your item (name)04:04
SteveArather than replacing it with your proposed item04:04
SteveA * Next meeting04:05
barrySteveA: oops04:05
SteveAsame time next week04:05
SteveAwho will have difficulty attending?04:05
jameshmatsubara: sorry, wasn't watching the clock04:05
SteveAok 04:05
SteveA* Actions from last meeting04:05
SteveA * SteveA to mail a formal announcement to the list about monthly releases04:06
SteveA * stub to rebuild `TeamParticipation` table04:06
SteveAI sent the announcement04:06
salgadowas it agreed to rebuild that table? I don't remember that04:06
stu1Problem sorted without rebuilding04:06
SteveAok, thanks04:06
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SteveA * OOPS report from matsubara 04:06
mptsalgado, matsubara declared it to be a MeetingAction.04:06
matsubarampt, yes I followed up with stub after the meeting and stub solved it without rebuilding.04:07
matsubarathanks stub for sorting that out04:07
matsubarathanks BjornT for fixing bug 102862.04:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 102862 in malone "OOPS when trying to file a bug from a product series page" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102862 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt)04:07
matsubaraToday's oops report is about bug 8636104:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 86361 in malone "Search for duplicate and similar bugs on +filebug sometimes timeout" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86361 - Assigned to Stuart Bishop (stub)04:08
matsubarastub, bug 86361 is assigned to you. I added a couple of more recent OOPSes and increased the importance. Could you take a look? Francis suggested in the report that some indexes might help.04:08
stubI'll have a look04:08
matsubarathanks stub 04:09
matsubaraI'm still checking some complains from people trying to file bugs using apport and getting a 500 internal server error.04:09
matsubaraapart from that, I'm done here SteveA 04:09
SteveAon the subject of oopses, I want to check, is the librarian connected to our oops infrastructure?04:10
SteveAas in, if the librarian has a problem, do we get an oops report?04:10
matsubarathere's a bug open about it. let me dig the number04:10
stubSteveA: No04:10
ubotuNew bug: #116619 in blueprint "Oops adding blueprint to a product series" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11661904:11
SteveAok.  I'd like to see this done in for the next release, if that's possible.04:11
mptbug 86185?04:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 86185 in launchpad "Librarian "500 Internal server error"s (when uploading) should generate an OOPS, and include the OOPS code in the error to the client." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8618504:11
matsubarathanks mpt 04:11
matsubarathat one04:11
SteveAMeetingAction: kiko, get this fix scheduled for some release soon04:11
SteveApretty please04:11
SteveA * Bug report, Rinchen04:12
RinchenI have 3 for today. 04:12
RinchenBug #90384 (Private) - stub - 2007-03-07 - Critical, in progress. Stu to invalidate sessions. Code cherrypicked 2007-05-17 so this should happen shortly. stub, will that close with the current roll-out?04:12
ubotuBug 90384 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/90384 is private04:12
RinchenBug #107912, first reported on 2007-04-19, (Private), mthaddon - Critical, in progress. Bug needs to be updated.   Tom, how is this progressing? I see they released the domains.04:12
ubotuBug 107912 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/107912 is private04:12
stubRinchen: Still in progress. Code landing with pqm now.04:12
RinchenBug #115174, first reported on 2007-05-17, (Private), mwhudson - Critical, not started. ddaa/mwhudson - How soon can you get to this? Will this require a cherry pick?04:12
ubotuBug 115174 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/115174 is private04:12
Rinchenstub, great, thanks04:12
mwhudsonRinchen: it's fixed as of a couple of hours ago04:13
Rinchenmwhudson, great, thanks. 04:13
ddaayay for no test suite or pqm :/04:13
mthaddonRinchen: domain has just been purchased, so I'll be pushing ahead with this now04:13
ddaamakes it quicker to fix things sometimes...04:13
mwhudsonit doesn't require a cherry pick as it's not RF code, nor run on lpnet servers04:13
Rinchenmthaddon, great, thanks.04:13
Rinchenmwhudson, ok. Got it.04:14
kikoRinchen, note my MeetingAction above04:14
RinchenSteveA, back to you04:14
Rinchenkiko, right-o04:14
SteveAthanks Rinchen 04:14
SteveA * Bug tags04:14
SteveAno new bugs tags were proposed04:15
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SteveA * Production update (mthaddon)04:15
mthaddonReady to rollout beta apache load balancer (Apache 2.2 now installed on gandwana)04:15
mthaddonLaunchpadlibrarian.net domain has been purchased, so need to proceed with that04:15
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mthaddonUpcoming Production rollout (today - how are we looking for that after testing yesterday, kiko?)04:16
mthaddonNeed to also get demo and staging OOPSes to devpad (not really production, but related)04:16
SteveAlet's rename this meeting section to "operational systems report"04:16
SteveAmthaddon: tell me when you've finished04:17
kikomthaddon, I'll be able to make this call later today04:17
mthaddonok, thx kiko04:17
kikomthaddon, I am waiting for results from celso and rosetta and matsubara04:17
mthaddonI'm done, SteveA04:17
kikoif it's a disaster04:17
SteveAthanks mthaddon 04:17
kikowe will reconsider the date04:17
kikobut the branch is cut anyway04:17
SteveA * DB update (stub)04:17
stubDatabase change freeze is again in affect.04:17
stubThis cycle db changes will need to be in my review queue about a week before db freeze is lifted, to give me time to go through all proposed changes with sabdfl. Dates will be emailed to the mailing list when they are known :)04:18
SteveA(rename to DBA report)04:18
RinchenFYI, the DB Open weeks are  highlighted on the calendar but exact dates are TBD.04:18
SteveAplease put dates on the release calendar04:18
SteveAwhen you know them04:18
SteveAso, no unexpected downtime or any problems to report from the ops or dba side?04:20
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SteveAI miss the "everything has been running smoothly" announcement04:20
cprovkiko: thumbs up for PPA & main-distro tasks. Everything looks fine after a SoyuzSystemTest round.04:20
stubdb has been running smoothly :)04:20
kikocprov, congratulations! and thanks a lot to elmo for the key help yesterday.04:20
SteveA * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] )04:21
RinchenGood news in this area.  Several requests have been resolved this week.04:21
cprovkiko: indeed, I got the builders running just in time.04:21
RinchenI'm tracking 2 high priorities.04:21
Rinchen27951 - Elliot's prototyping machine 04:21
Rinchen27816 - "allow outgoing FTP from vostok" [WWW]  Bug 10944104:21
SteveAthanks Rinchen 04:22
ddaathanks, anything I can do to help that go forward?04:22
Rinchenmthaddon, fyi I'm getting 503s on LP if you could check.04:22
SteveA * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)04:22
SteveAmatthew is not here, so we'll skip this04:22
mthaddonRinchen: will do04:22
ddaaI mean (RT 27816)04:22
SteveA * Encouraging more pre-implementation phone calls (barry)04:22
barrywe want to encourage launchpad devs to do more pre-implementation phone calls04:23
barryphone calls (voice contact) is preferable to irc04:23
barryyou should do these calls even for trivial bug fixes or features; it's okay to ask "this is trivial, do you agree?"04:24
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barryyou can do these calls with any other lp dev, in fact it's encouraged that everyone participate.04:24
barrythink of this as virtual pair programming in a sense04:24
SteveAthe nice thing about voice calls is that it provides a place for a reviewer and you to discuss the scope of the work, how it links with other things in launchpad, and so on, but briefly, dynamically looking at what's needed in a particular case04:24
carlosbarry: so no need to have it with a reviewer?04:25
barrycarlos: correct04:25
barryreviewers will ask you if you've done a pre-imple call, and the PendingReviews page has an additional line in the template now04:25
barrySee PreMergeReviews for a fuller discussion, and i'll be sending out an email later today04:25
mwhudsonis the expectation to just turn up in launchpad-code and say "i need someone to have a pre-impl call with", or find someone appropriate?04:26
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SteveAalthough there's no need to have it with a reviewer, do choose someone who is experienced in that area of launchpad, or in designs in general04:26
SteveAmwhudson: choose someone and ask them04:26
SteveAmwhudson: and if they can't do it, choose someone else and ask them04:26
mwhudsonSteveA: ok04:26
danilosand if they can't do it, choose SteveA and ask him :)04:27
mthaddonRinchen: intermittent or constant - there were some issues on nagios, but I checked each app server out and it seems fine now04:27
SteveAI'm very happy to be asked to do pre-implementation calls04:27
RinchenFYI this is also recommended in the general dev process: "The developer should have a pre-implementation discussion with a reviewer. This is recommended and it is preferred that this be done via a voice call."04:27
Rinchenmthaddon, intermittent04:27
stubIs there any particular reason this has to be voice? I hate discussing code changes on phones - I find it much harder to articulate in that medium than, say, IRC or email.04:27
mthaddonRinchen: can you let me know if you get any more - seems to have cleared up now...04:27
Rinchenre: pre-imp - although we could change the reference to reviewer there. Barry, that'll be your call.04:28
Rinchenmthaddon, yes sir, thanks.04:28
SteveAstub: the review can have many components in different media.  voice should be one of them.04:28
mthaddonRinchen: nagios is confirming it's all happy again...04:28
stubSteveA: is there any particular reason this has to be voice?04:28
barryRinchen: i like the way SteveA put it; i'll try to work that in04:28
SteveAmthaddon: anything in the logs or oopses?04:28
SteveAstub: yes.04:28
mthaddonSteveA: just checking the postgres logs04:29
SteveAstub: I'll discuss that with you in a voice call if you like.04:29
Rinchenmthaddon, fwiw, ubotu also had 1.04:29
barryone other thing i like about it not having to be a reviewer is that it gets everyone involved in the process, improves design skills and gets more people familar with how the system works04:30
stubI think it better stated in the meeting or people won't know what in particular they need to be focusing in the voice calls.04:30
mthaddonSteveA: saw one statement timeout in postgres logs, other than that, nothing major04:30
SteveAbarry: I agree with that.  I recommend that you find someone who has a different level of experience to you.04:30
SteveAbarry: so we get less experienced members of the team talking with more experienced.04:31
SteveAalso, seek to have these across different domains of launchpad04:31
SteveAsometimes, anyway04:31
SteveAmix it up04:31
SteveAstub: I have yet to understand the motivation behind your question.  So, we can discuss it in a call, and you can report back to the next meeting.04:32
SteveAso, do we have particular actions out of this...?04:32
SteveA - extra information on the pending reviews page04:32
SteveA - amendment to docs on how to develop on launchpad04:33
barrySteveA: i will update the wiki pages and send an email to launchpad@04:33
stubACTION ITEM: stub to discuss rational for voice calls as opposed to other mediums with stevea and report04:33
SteveAthanks barry 04:33
SteveAmoving on04:33
barryi think we should have an agenda item for the next meeting (or next few meetings) to track how this is going, if people have problems with it, need more or less process, etc.04:33
SteveAbarry: okay, please add it as a proposed item for the next meeting04:34
SteveAmoving on04:34
SteveAkiko: do you have anything to say about the development cycle stuff?04:34
SteveAor Rinchen ?04:34
SteveAany announcements related to where we are in the development cycle04:34
RinchenAll 1.1.6 milestones need to be rounded out today if at all possible. We're presenting to management tomorrow morning.04:35
SteveA"morning" is kinda ambiguous04:35
SteveAconsidering our spread across timezones04:35
SteveAcan you be more specific?04:36
RinchenAh true.  Morning US, afternoon GMT04:36
Rinchen15:00 GMT iirc04:36
SteveAok, thanks04:36
SteveA * Team three sentences ([wiki:ProjectTeams Team List] )04:36
salgadoTEAM: FOAF04:37
matsubaraTEAM: infrastructure04:37
salgadoDONE: Fixed a bunch of bugs on launchpad-*-dependencies packages and some more work on bug 7051904:37
salgadoTODO: Finish bug 70519 and start with bug 277304:37
salgadoBLOCKED: no04:37
matsubaraDONE: DBA stuff, single sign on, triage, cleanup blueprints & bugs from former employees, oops reports, prep for Apache load balancer, bzr0.16 rollout, log ac04:37
matsubarativity for cron scripts (not yet reviewed), storm fixes to help with LP migration, DB config changes.04:37
matsubaraTODO: more single sign on, more triage, staging tests, Apache load balancer installation on beta, launchpadlibrarian.net setup, hook new database config stuff into test infrastructure, more storm migration stuff.04:37
matsubaraBLOCKED: no04:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 70519 in launchpad "Need to allow team members to renew their own membership once it gets close to the membership's expiration date" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70519 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado)04:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 2773 in launchpad "Let someone delete/remove/close their account" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2773 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado)04:37
jtvTEAM: Translations04:37
jtvDONE: Rolled out #83801, #88873, #112314, TranslationImportQueuePriorities04:37
jtvTODO: Finish testing, fallout: #116196, #116200; import queue UI filters04:37
jtvBLOCKED: no04:37
flacosteTEAM: answer-tracker04:37
flacosteDONE: specs discussion, allows to filter-out English requests in searches, add rationale to answer tracker notifications, cycle planning04:37
flacosteTODO: cycle planning, get rationale branch reviewed and land it, land English filtering branches04:37
flacosteBLOCKED: reversal of DB patch by stub/sabdlf blocks landing of answer contacts that do not want to support English04:37
allenapTEAM: bug tracker04:37
allenapDONE: Bjorn was planning for release, checking specs have enough info, helping out, doing code reviews, and assigning bugs to next milestone. David, Abel and Gavin were bug fixing. David has 2 branches in review which should land early next week. Gavin landed bug 112315 and db changes for bug 106984.04:37
allenapTODO: Bjorn - Bug permissions for MOTU; Abel - bug 6572; David - bug 116367, bug 116369, preliminary hardware db stuff; Gavin - bug 106984, bug 8101404:37
allenapBLOCKED: no04:37
barryTEAM: mailing lists04:37
barryDONE: had review of phase 3 spec w/joey and steve.04:37
barryTODO: one more round of updates, and then review w/mark04:37
barryBLOCKED: still having trouble merging changes to sourcecode/mailman04:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 112315 in launchpad "OffsiteFormPostError raised for referer with square braces in query" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112315 - Assigned to Gavin Panella (allenap)04:37
statikTEAM: Commercialization04:37
statikDONE: vacation, reviews, landed file downloads, spec writing, sf integration, planning for next release cycle, blueprints bug fixing.04:37
statikTODO: more blueprints for next release cycle, reviews, private bugs.04:37
statikBLOCKED: no. 04:37
ubotuBug 106984 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/106984 is private04:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 6572 in malone "In distribution bug searches, it should be possible to filter out bugs with open upstream tasks" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6572 - Assigned to abel (adeuring)04:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116367 in malone "Apport should be able to report private bugs" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116367 - Assigned to Dave Murphy (schwuk)04:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116369 in malone "Apport should be able to subscribe people to bug reports" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116369 - Assigned to Dave Murphy (schwuk)04:37
ubotuBug 106984 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/106984 is private04:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 81014 in malone "Don't assume entered package is a binary package" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81014 - Assigned to Gavin Panella (allenap)04:37
ddaaTEAM: Code Antipodeans04:37
ddaaDONE: auto-bug-branch DB refactoring, smartserver on the supermirror, some private branch UI work, release planning, Raised RT (#28084) about securing supermirror access over http.04:37
ddaaTODO: finish work on smartserver on supermirror, refactor private branch branches following DB change agreed with sabdfl04:37
ddaaBLOCKED: no04:37
mptDONE: Answers spec feedback and interface design, bug page work04:37
mptTODO: login/registration redesign, finish bug page04:37
mptBLOCKED: no04:37
cprovTEAM: Soyuz04:38
cprovDONE: PPA (DB + compatibilty) and general fixing04:38
cprovTODO: Deploy PPA & BuildMaster sprint04:38
cprovBLOCKED: no04:38
ddaaTEAM: Code Europeans04:38
ddaaDONE: sprint, small loggerhead bugs, discuss packaging imports, discuss mailman import, supermirror/importd doc, release planning.04:38
ddaaTODO: branch-puller activity reporting, finish bye-bye-hct, finish supermirror/importd doc, code import speccing,04:38
ddaaBLOCKED: RT 27816 - "allow outgoing FTP from vostok"04:38
Rinchenflacoste, barry ddaa - blocked04:38
SteveAbarry: let's see if we can get mthaddon and lifeless to sort that out04:40
barrySteveA: mthaddon did try to help, i think we decided it's a lifeless issue04:40
SteveAlifeless: will you help barry with this today?04:41
SteveAddaa: I appreciate your "Code Europeans" report this week.  I want to see one team three sentences for the bzrlp team next week.04:42
stubSteveA: Do we have a voice call today?04:42
lifelessI will help. I was unaware that it was an issue.04:42
SteveAstub: yes, infrastructure team call.04:42
jameshbarry: is it possible that you aren't using quite the right pqm branch? (have a slash at the end when you shouldn't, or vice versa?04:42
ddaaSteveA: you mean combining europeans and antipodeans?04:43
ddaaSteveA: talk about post meeting04:43
SteveAone report, one bzrlp team04:43
barryjamesh: anything's possible.  i'm sure it's some function of "barry.is_doing_something_stupid"04:43
SteveAany other issues04:43
SteveAthanks everyone!04:43
ddaaSteveA: combining the reports meaningfully is hard.04:44
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ddaaBecause of timezones it's hard for the two groups to coordinate.04:44
ddaaAnd practically, we do not.04:44
ddaamaybe because we have different line managers, I dunno...04:44
jameshbarry: mwhudson was having trouble submitting merges to cscvs, and fixed it by removing a trailing slash on the pqm_branch04:44
SteveAddaa: let tim assemble the report, and you present it at the meeting04:45
SteveAddaa: talk with tim about it please04:45
ddaaokay, next time I see him...04:45
ddaa(or email, I guess)04:45
SteveAelmo: ping04:46
barryjamesh: cool, thanks04:47
jameshbarry: you might have run into a completely different problem, but it is worth checking04:47
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barryjamesh: i think it's related to what i'm branching and what i'm trying to merge into, but honestly i'm not sure04:48
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LaserJockoh shoot, the LP dev meeting was this morning wasn't it?06:57
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LaserJockat least I have a log ;-)07:03
Hobbseehi LaserJock 07:03
LaserJockhola Hobbsee 07:03
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FjodorIs something wrong with launchpad? I can't seem to register a bug07:21
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=== Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad 1.0, https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 24 May 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
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lifelesshow can we turn an autocreated person into a team?11:16
salgadowe can't11:17
lifelessok, now for the real answer11:17
kikothat's a bug. I think I asked salgado to focus on that for some upcoming release.11:18
salgadoyou didn't11:18
salgadoyou asked me to focus on allowing people to disable their accounts11:19
kikofor /some/ upcoming release? :)11:19
salgadowell, it's assigned to me, if that counts11:19
lifelessso, theres a team created by the upload of a bzr package maintained by the pkg-maint-bazaar team, which is an alioth team.11:19
lifelessI think that that should be reflected in launchpad by a bzr-packaging team with the alioth email as the team mail address11:20
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kikolifeless, you will need to hack the Person entry11:20
kikoadd a teamowner11:20
kikothat might work11:20
lifelessokay, I'll look tomorrow when I'm awake11:20
kikosalgado, tell me off if I'm wrong11:20
lifelesssould I file a spec about this if its not there already? Seems like a possibly common thing11:20
kikolifeless, I have other teams that need that done as well...11:20
kikolifeless, there's a bug filed11:21
salgadokiko, I think you tried doing that manually and it didn't work very well,no?11:21
lifelesskiko: well I'll fiddle on staging first, possibly make a cript for it11:21
salgadomaybe you tried through the web UI? I don't remember11:21
kikosalgado, I never tried11:21
kikolifeless, sounds cool, nice idea11:21
lifelessthere isn't a webui for it :). teamparticipation probably needs a manual tweak to include the new owner11:22
lifelesstomorrow 11:22
kikolifeless, the owner doesn't need to be a member11:22
kikoso it should be all fine11:22
lifelesskiko: I thought the team owner got included automatically11:22
lifelessI'm going to head.11:23
kikolifeless, no, the team owner can leave the team, and he isn't a "participant" then11:23
kikoyou take it easy11:23
lifelessI see. 11:24
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