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maxamillionnever tried12:25
maxamillioni listen to netradio on both xmms and exaile12:25
BFTDanyone here into ham radio?12:25
maxamillionnegative12:25
BFTDpity12:25
largosmaxamillion: xmodmap and loadkeys are the apps I've always used. (loadkeys is the VT equivalent of xmodmap)12:27
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largosVT = console12:27
maxamillionlargos: ah, ok .... good to know, i will bring that up in the next development meeting12:27
maxamillionlargos: right12:27
maxamillionVT/tty :P12:27
largosyeah... I've heard a lot of people reffer to console windows in X as VTs12:28
Ezep-notebooklargos: how i change to US American with xmodmap?12:28
maxamillionlargos: i just call them terminal sessions, but i think they are all understood acceptable terms12:28
largosEzep-notebook: try "xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us"12:29
largosI'm not sure how to make that run on startup with xfce.  putting it in the starting apps doesn't seem to work.12:29
Ezep-notebook /usr/share/xmodmap don't appear : S12:31
largosEzep-notebook: run 'locate xmodmap.us' and try one of the results12:31
largos( you *may* need to run updatedb first)12:31
Ezep-notebookupdate distro u mean? :p12:32
largosand you'll probably need to apt-get xmodmap if you don't have it :)12:32
largosEzep-notebook: nope, 'updatedb' updates the locate database12:32
Ezep-notebooki have xmodmap...12:32
Ezep-notebookoh, i see.12:33
largoshm.. I don't know why you don't have /usr/share/xmodmap...12:33
Ezep-notebookmaybe cause im apt-get upgrading?12:34
largosI guess taht's possible, seems unlikely to be the reason though.12:34
Ezep-notebookok, im going to wait the upgrade12:35
DRFBFTD, sorry not into ham radio but there is a software page on debian for it so must be a few users in debian into ham radio. (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/hamradio/) much of which should be in ubuntu's universe i imagine.12:36
BFTDyeah12:37
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rdehlerI just installed xubuntu and now after the grub loading there's just a blinking cursor12:43
rdehleri've been searching for a solution for hours, can anyone help me troubleshoot12:44
largosDoes it also say "Do you want to play a game?"12:44
rdehlerno.12:44
largosdang.12:44
rdehlerif only.12:44
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Ezep-notebookwargames xD12:45
maxamillionWOPR?12:45
maxamillionrdehler: hit ctrl+alt+f1 and see if that brings you to a command line login? if not try ctrl+alt+f2 or ctrl+alt+f312:46
largosit sounds more like a grub/kernel issue to me12:47
rdehlerthey don't12:47
rdehleri've tried plenty of grub options, i can't get any debug info to show12:47
maxamillionrdehler: when it boots hit f2 and see if that will give you verbose output from the kernel12:48
rdehlerit doesn't boot yet12:48
maxamillionoh, not at all12:48
rdehlerit goes to a blinking cursor RIGHT after grub12:48
maxamillion?*12:48
maxamillionohhh yeah, kernel or grub issue12:48
maxamillionsorry, i mis-understood12:48
rdehlerhmm12:48
largosmaxamillion: WOPR was/is a super computer that controls the US's nuclear arsenal in the movie Wargames. The premise is that a geek "hacks" into it by wardialing, and inadvertantly starts a war.12:49
rdehlerthis is the command i ran: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk /dev/sda12:49
rdehlerit didn't fix it12:49
rdehlerand device.map has this in it: (hd0)/dev/sda12:50
rdehlerwhich is correct12:50
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BFTDI wanna do sudo apt-get upgrade, but I don't want one of the app's to be upgraded, how do i go about doing this?12:50
maxamillionlargos: oh yeah... i remember that movie, he kills the super computer by making it play itself at tic-tac-toe12:50
maxamillionlargos: well.... makes it stop playing the game anyways12:51
nosrednaekimcongrats on making a fast little distro! running it on a 333 mhz toshiba with 92MB of RAM12:51
maxamillionnosrednaekim: :)12:51
Ezep-notebooklargos:  "Do you want to play a game?" is a text that the game Warsgame say, isn't it?12:51
rdehlerhmmm12:51
largosEzep-notebook: yeah12:51
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maxamillionrdehler: that's really strange ... you editing options in the grub terminal or with a liveCD?12:52
Ezep-notebooki don't understand that "game":s12:52
rdehlermaxamillion: i've done both12:52
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rdehlermaxamillion: currently in the livecd12:53
maxamillioni actually don't think it matters now that i think about it ...12:53
rdehlerya just need this fixed man12:55
maxamillionbrb12:55
rdehlerfrustrating as all hell12:55
maxamillioni would imagine so12:55
rdehlerubuntuforums.com has tons of the same problem with no (working) solutions12:55
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DRFBFTD, I know there is a lock version option in synaptic but not sure of the command like equivilent.12:58
rdehlermeh12:58
rdehleri don't see a problem with this grub config: titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic01:00
rdehlerroot(hd0,0)01:00
rdehlerkernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=d93d9210-6a20-456c-8401-c1b2077ecf8f ro quiet splash01:00
rdehlerinitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic01:00
rdehlerquiet01:00
rdehlersavedefault01:00
rdehlerhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/506101:03
rdehler"It seems the Dell Optiplex has some PCI bus issues and the BIOS configuration will not support Ubuntu right now."01:03
rdehleryou've got to be joking.01:03
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DRFrdehler, You might get somewhere if you look into installing lilo instead of grub, using the live cd.01:06
rdehlerknow where i can find out how?01:06
Ezep-notebookhow could i change the language of the keyboard?01:06
rdehlerjust as easy as apt-get?01:06
rdehlerok installing now01:07
DRFI'm not sure exactly how to configure it from the live cd. Have to look in the forums/wiki. But if the problem is grub specific it might be a work around01:08
rdehler0 results for "lilo"01:11
DRFrdehler, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p4.html is the lilo home page and has some documents on how to install/configure.01:11
DRFlilo is in main i think, but might not be on the CD so will need an internet connection.01:12
rdehleryep01:13
rdehlerinstalled, configuring now01:13
DRFok. The site i posted a link too seems to document the process you'll need quite well in the installing from live cd section.01:16
rdehlerwhat a pain int he ass man01:19
j1mcDRF: any special reason for using lilo?01:20
rdehlerhe was trying to see if it was grub-only01:23
rdehlerbut i think this is more time than i want to spend01:23
rdehleri am inches from giving up01:25
DRFj1mc, only trying to eliminate grub as the cause of the problem.01:27
rdehlerI get Error 21: Selected disk does not exist when i type root (hd0,0) at the console01:29
rdehlerthing that's related?01:29
DRFI did see a post on a blog recently saying some of the newest intel boards won't boot from partitions which don't have the boot flag set thinking about it but not sure of the age of this dell01:29
rdehlerdell's bios is from mar 200701:29
rdehlerit just came today, it's a p4HT (can't be that new)01:30
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PrimoTurboWhere do I put GTK 2.x Themes for XFCE?01:37
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NefariousPriorI'm confused. If xubuntu uses Xfce... why do all the screenshots look like gnome?01:38
PrimoTurbobecause it uses GTK01:39
PrimoTurboto style the menus and such01:39
rdehlerok, i give up01:39
PrimoTurboand xubuntu is setup similar to ubuntu01:39
rdehleri'm going to install vista01:39
rdehlerbye bye01:39
DRFrdehler, if it is the new intel board issue it's documented at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/115633 but i suspect your dell is suffering from another issue if it's not the latest model.01:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 115633 in ubiquity "No boot flag on any partition - Failure to boot after install - Intel motherboards" [Undecided,Confirmed] 01:40
DRFSorry couldn't help further, but got to go now.01:41
rdehlerit doesn't sound like the same problem01:41
rdehlermy root partition has the boot flag (and only that flag)01:42
rdehlerplus it's not that it tells me it can't find any bootable flags, it's that it locks up with a blinking cursor01:44
DRFI suggest either continuing asking for help here at another time or another ubuntu support channel or posting to the ubuntuforum or mailing list.  Wish i could help but not an expert in grub/the kernel myself.01:45
NefariousPriorIs there anything that ubuntu has that xubuntu doesn't.. or vice versa?01:45
rdehlerthanks, but i've spent too many company resources as it is01:46
rdehleri have a half hour left to figure this out01:46
DRFBut hope you do try (x)ubuntu again in the future if it doesn't work now.01:46
rdehleri have an optiplex 320: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40934501:50
rdehlerok i followed that guide, rebooting now01:59
rdehler*crosses fingers*01:59
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pbxOn an 800MHz laptop with 128MB RAM, what browser might I use that's lighter weight than Firefox but still standards compliant?  Is Epiphany likely to be much of an improvement?  (I've got Dillo installed, but...)02:03
pbxIs there a KHTML-based browser besides Konqueror?02:03
pbxHm. Boring questions?02:06
NefariousPriorThere's always Opera, but not opensource.02:09
pbxAh, good, I'd forgotten Opera.  (Q.v. Poland)02:10
gnomefreakpbx: does it have to be GUi browser? although swiftfox is gecko based and is faster02:11
gnomefreakiceape-browser is also but you wont see that until gutsy02:11
pbxgnomefreak: interesting, didn't know about either of those.02:12
pbxIs an iceape, like, something that kills iceweasels?02:13
gnomefreakpbx: its seamonkey with debian branding02:13
gnomefreak:)02:13
gnomefreakmonkeys might eat a weasel :)02:13
pbxOoh, Epiphany has a Python console :)02:23
pbxNot that I have any particular use for it!02:23
pbxOK, one more really dumb question. If I'm downloading a .tgz file, what's the least fussy GUI thing I can do to expand the thing?  The usual xarchiver or whatever interface seems stupidly indirect to me -- certainly more of a hassle than tar xzf in the shell...02:26
pbxHm. I thought that one was going to be easy!02:47
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Lectushow can I extract rpm files on xubuntu?03:07
crdlb!alien03:08
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ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)03:17
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sumguy231So I updated a Xubuntu computer (freshly installed) from Edgy to Feisty - now when non-sudoers try to launch one of the device icons on the desktop it throws the error "Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy" "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid <uid-number>". Any suggestions?03:26
somerville32sumguy231, File a bug please :)03:29
sumguy231Oh. Why? Did I not ask right? I'm sort of new here, it seems odd to file a bug report so soon.03:29
sumguy231I found a relevant bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/9875103:34
ubotuLaunchpad bug 98751 in kdelibs "feisty beta fails to mount hard drives" [Undecided,Confirmed] 03:34
sumguy231But It's filed under kdelibs for some reason and doesn't look like it's ever going to go anywhere.03:34
sumguy231...Hmm, still no dice. Back to Edgy tommorow then.03:54
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artabrahaohi, the vncviewer works fine in ubuntu, but when I type vncserver appears command not fount. What can it be?04:19
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artabrahaohi, the vncviewer works fine in ubuntu, but when I type vncserver appears command not fount. What can it be?04:35
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crdlb!find vncserver04:43
artabrahao<crdlb> is there a channel called vncserver?04:47
crdlba channel?04:47
crdlbI don't think so04:47
crdlbseems ubotu is lagging again04:47
artabrahaoso what means !find vncserver?04:49
crdlbit's a command to ubotu04:50
crdlbartabrahao: did you install the vncserver package?04:52
ubotuFound: libvncserver-dev, tightvncserver, vncserver04:52
crdlbthe command itself in vncserver is "realvncserver"04:53
artabrahaovia synaptic I have installad all vnc packages04:53
artabrahaoWhen I type !find vncserver appears event not found, but I'm the vncviewer is working04:55
crdlbrun realvncserver04:55
artabrahaocommand not founf04:57
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artabrahao?05:05
crdlb!find realvncserver05:05
ubotuFile realvncserver found in vncserver05:06
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curiogeohello I am trying to uncompress a file that i downloaded with internet explorer and pushed to my xub box with winscp05:07
curiogeoit is a tar.gz file that was renamed tar.tar05:08
artabrahaoevent not found05:08
curiogeoI ran tar xvjf on it and it failed05:08
curiogeoI tried using wget and it stalled05:09
crdlbartabrahao: you're not supposed to run the ! command05:09
crdlbthat's just for ubotu05:09
crdlbyou apparently don't have the vncserver package installed05:09
artabrahaocrdlb> how is it possible if I installed all vnc via synaptic?05:11
crdlbno idea05:12
crdlbsudo apt-get install vncserver05:12
crdlbyou don't have universe enabled maybe?05:12
artabrahaocrdlb> what is the universe?05:12
crdlb!universe05:13
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artabrahaocrdlb> !universe event not foung05:13
crdlbgah05:14
crdlbdon't run that05:14
crdlbit's a command for the bot05:14
crdlbwho happens to be rather slow today05:14
artabrahaocrdlb> what is the universE?05:16
PumpernickelIt's a repository.  Open synaptic, click on the settings menu, select repositories, and enable them.  Then reload your package cache.05:22
VR_!pidgin05:22
PumpernickelAlso, if your bot query has nothing to do with the channel conversation, please use a private message.05:24
Pumpernickelhint hint, VR_05:24
artabrahaocrdlb> !universe event not foung05:27
artabrahaocrdlb> what is the universE?05:27
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SurfnKidTheSheep, :)05:34
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource05:39
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.05:39
crdlbyay he's back05:40
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bordyj1mc: thanks once again. three days later. lol06:27
j1mcbordy: heh.  what was the problem again?  :)06:27
bordymad flickering06:27
j1mcoh... :)  i think the 16-bit thing is saving a lot of people.06:27
bordyI even figured out how to enable my xircom card finally.. but think it requires doin an lfconfig and dhclient every time06:27
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j1mcbordy: ah... we are looking to get something more user friendly for gutsy gibbon, the next release.06:31
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bordywell from what I am seeing, theres alot of issues with the xircom realport06:31
j1mcin the meantime, you may want to install network-manager-gnome06:32
j1mcand then enter "nohup nm-applet" from the command line06:33
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bordyj1mc: did the nohup nm-applet06:43
bordynow, what did I do?06:43
bordycause it evidently stopped my intarwebs06:43
j1mcbordy: did a network manager applet go up in your toolbar?06:44
j1mc... i think you need to add it to the toolbar manually once.06:45
j1mctype killall nm-applet06:45
bordyyeah, its up there. and it disconnected then reconnected06:46
bordybut in the terminal, the nohup command hasnt "finished" as it were06:46
bordyno new prompt yet06:46
j1mcbordy... do you have a separate terminal window open... and that's where you see the "nohup" activity (or whatever)? :)06:47
bordyno, just one window. It just never moved after saying " nohup: appending output to `nohup.out' "06:47
j1mcbordy: what's your irc client?06:48
bordywell konversation right now (talking on the desktop, working on the lap)06:49
bordyI was on irssi before06:49
j1mcok... just close the terminal window that had the 'nohup...' command in it.06:49
j1mcsee what happens.06:49
j1mc"nohup" is supposed to allow the terminal window to close w/o affecting the program that it started.06:49
bordynothing seems to happen.06:49
j1mcthat's good.06:49
j1mcis nm-applet still up in your toolbar?06:50
bordyyep. and I am back online06:50
j1mcok.  that's good, right?06:50
j1mcare things "working"?06:50
bordyyep!06:50
j1mcneato burrito06:51
bordywill that identify if new networks are available? as in, if I bring it to work or school and plug in?06:52
j1mcyeah... it should.06:53
bordysweet. I'll test that out tomorrow thne06:53
bordyThanks (again) for the help. lol06:53
j1mcxubuntu's next release will either have that app (w/o the gnome libraries), or will have something similar.06:53
bordysweet06:53
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punktuxhow to add startup program in xubuntu?06:56
j1mcpunktux: you mean, a program that starts at boot?06:57
punktuxya in ubuntu i can go session and add program06:57
punktuxbut i cant find such feature in xubuntu06:58
j1mcpunktux: what version of xubuntu are you running?06:58
punktuxthe newest06:59
j1mcpunktux: ok, go to "Applications --> Settings --> Autostarted Applications"06:59
j1mcis that what you need?06:59
punktuxoh found it07:00
punktuxthans07:00
punktuxks07:00
j1mcyw  :)07:00
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punktuxthe applications left open from the previous session would open again automatically everytime i log in08:36
punktuxi've unchecked ''save session for future login'' and deleted .config folder08:37
punktuxbut it still does this08:37
DeviadIs there any good gui for manage synaptics?08:45
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Myrttisay what?08:49
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DeviadHello10:23
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DeviadCan anyone pls tell me what can cause the xfce plugin to say 0% ac?11:26
Deviadac, battery are on11:26
Merchelohmm, there's also an xfce channel, just FYI, but i've never come accross that.11:27
DeviadMerchelo, this isn't really xfce related11:32
DeviadI guess I'm having some troubles with some modules11:32
Deviadit has worked properly for a while11:32
DeviadI just did rmmod usbhid and modprobe usbhid11:32
Deviadand I ran into this11:33
Deviad:\11:33
Deviadshit11:33
DeviadI dunno what to search for in google to solve the problem11:33
Deviad:((11:33
DeviadI don't want to reinstall everything11:33
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Merchelo!battery11:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about battery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:37
Merchelo!info battery11:37
ubotuPackage battery does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas11:37
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jarnosIs there a way to put xfce4-mixer wannabe master such that it would adjust audio card's both output devices? (I have SBLive! Value) and the other the 2nd output is affected by the "Wave Surround" slider only.12:10
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kadakasdoes Nautilus work on Xubuntu 7.04 ?01:18
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kadakasgaim crashed :p01:20
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DeviadCan anyone pls tell me why the scripts in ac.d e battery.d do not get loaded properly on boot?01:50
DeviadI have to unplug the cable to make them start01:50
Deviadworking01:50
DeviadOn boot if I have the cable plugged the speed is 1.0 whereas it should be 2.3 ghz01:50
Deviadif the cable is unplugged on boot I get 1.0 but the backlight is not set properly it means that battery.d/something.sh didn't get loaded01:50
Deviadpls help01:50
Myrttiif the problem isn't actually xubuntu (xfce) related, you'll probably get more help at #ubuntu01:52
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ghalibhi02:21
ghalibi am new to ubuntu02:21
ghalibbut if u say in linux then it's right02:21
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pastornmy installation freezes at 85 % (Installed xubuntu-desktop is what it says). i'm using the text install mode02:43
pastornnevermind....02:46
pastornit was just VERY slow there...02:46
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Mercheloheh02:49
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bordyAnyone know how to get the gnome network manager running again? j1mc told me how to do it last night when he told me to install it, but I forgot :(02:50
Merchelonetwork-manager ?02:51
bordythat didnt do it, no02:51
bordyiut was some weird command I hadnt used before, like hoput or something strange like that02:52
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pastornok, there's still trouble... i just finished the installer and on my first boot all i see is a white blinking line in the top right corner. it doesn't even get to grub02:59
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CatrikI deleted everything from Applications menu. Any easy way to get the stuff back there?03:06
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CatrikEasy = faster than add everything one by one03:06
pastorncreate a new user03:07
CatrikHm.. Can I then copy the menu file from that user?03:09
CatrikTrytry03:09
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gui_hi04:47
gui_I installed xubuntu64 (after similar problems under ubuntu32) and nothing change! My mouse become crazy, I receive the following message : [  979.152364]  psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity04:47
gui_[  985.288424]  psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away04:47
gui_what's the matter ? :)04:47
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sa3atskyhi04:55
sa3atskyi need help installing xubuntu04:55
sa3atskyi have my hard disks installed on a sata controller04:56
sa3atsky4port pci sata controller04:56
sa3atskyand whenever i try to format the drive and install i get an error message04:56
sa3atskywhat could be the problem?04:56
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sa3atskywhen i choose manual there are a few options that are pretty useless04:59
sa3atskyshud i install on command-line instead?04:59
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sa3atskyvery useless05:01
sa3atskyis there like a stepbystep guide in installing ubuntu?05:02
sa3atskyive had it for a month, and i really thought itd be better than this05:02
sa3atskyhorrible documentation..05:02
sa3atskyouta here05:02
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gui_hi06:20
gui_please, is there any way to add a launcher for xchat for example in the pannel with xubuntu ?06:20
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j1mcif i were to delete the xfce .config file in my home directory, log out of x, and then log back in, would it give me the default xfce-style layout (w/o the xubuntu-specific modifications).06:22
j1mccome on, xubunteros.  someone should know this.  :)06:27
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gui_:)06:27
j1mchi gui06:27
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Myrttigui_: sure?06:28
gui_I just want to add gnome-terminal to the panel for example :)06:36
Myrttioh, I forgot I don't have xfce on this computer06:36
j1mcgui_: what's wrong with xfce4-terminal?06:36
gui_nothing06:37
gui_so, how to add xfce4-terminal to the panel ?06:37
gui_for quick launch06:37
j1mcright-click on the panel, select add an item . . .06:37
gui_and ?06:37
j1mcthen name the item you're adding06:37
j1mcselect an icon (a terminal-looking icon)  :)06:38
j1mcin the command box, just type  "xfce4-terminal" (w/o the quotes)06:38
gui_I can add a launcher on the desktop without problem06:39
gui_but I can't see button to add a new launcher with the pannel06:39
gui_:-(06:39
gui_perhaps I have a bug :)06:40
gui_no problems with that06:40
gui_I'll find later06:40
gui_I have a rather big problem with my mouse06:40
gui_when I use many data on the harddrive and move my mouse, sometimes it becomes crazy ! And I can retrieve some errors in the kernel msg.06:40
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gui_I saw the same thing with different version of linux and different 2.6.X kernel06:41
gui_too bad ...06:41
gui_I'm wondering about a hardware problem06:41
gui_but it's difficult to find something with a search engine06:41
gui_[ 1308.387591]  psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity06:43
gui_[ 1309.048521]  psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away.06:43
gui_does it make sens ?06:43
j1mcgui_: hmmmm... not sure.06:43
j1mci'm not that much of an expert, unfortunately.06:43
j1mcand sorry i wasn't able to help a lot w/ the panel issue.  i'm at work, so don' thave a xubuntu machine in front of me.06:44
j1mcgui_: perhaps do a memory test?  make sure your hardware is good, and not giving errors.06:44
gui_no problems with that it's a secondary problem06:44
gui_how to test mouse settings ?06:45
gui_sorry06:45
gui_how to test mouse hardware ?06:45
gui_(from the mainboard connector)06:45
gui_root@gomera:/etc# find . -iname "inittab"06:46
gui_root@gomera:/etc#06:46
gui_ ??06:46
gui_:)06:46
gui_I'll be back06:52
gui_thanks06:52
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hyper__chhiho08:54
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KillNightsI have a small question. When browsing in Firefox, how do I remove the panels? They are annoying when trying to enter fullscreen :(09:44
hyper_chKillNights: tried F11?09:46
KillNightsI'm using 'LogMeIn', I think it's made in Java. When I select 'full screen', the panels appear. Any solutions?09:47
hyper_chdunno what logmein is09:48
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DarKillerIt's a VPN solution by the creators of Hamachi09:48
hyper_chdunno09:48
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hyper_chF11 --> full screen in ff09:48
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Gerroanyone mind recommending a guide so I can dial into my xubuntu box at home and use internet elsewhere09:50
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Gerromaxamillion: sup max09:50
maxamillionnodda09:51
hyper_chGerro: what do you mean=?09:57
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Gerrohyper_ch: setup a remote dial-in server09:58
hyper_chand what do you want to do with it?09:58
Gerrohyper_ch: going to be staying over friends house and they just moved so hoping to still be able to dial into my linux box and check email etc09:59
hyper_chGerro: vnc, X11-forwarding, freenx, xlive cd09:59
Gerrohyper_ch: yes but they have no connection besides dial up10:00
Gerroand I don't feel like lugging my pc with me10:00
hyper_chGerro: ah I see... well, good luck :)10:00
Gerrohyper_ch: all guides I can find are for dial up connection sharing and using standard dial up with linux nothing about setting up a remote server for it10:01
Gerrolot of stuff about pppd :(10:02
hyper_chGerro: why do you want to dial-into your computer at home? if it is hooked up to the internet... and if the other one has dialed-up to the net... where's the problem10:02
Gerrohyper_ch: I dunno maybe I can dial in through my cellphone too if I ever fix my laptop, afraid to use it overheats so much.10:03
Gerrohyper_ch: you know anything about acpi someone said it might be configuration issue with it10:04
hyper_chGerro: if both computer are somehow online you can access the one at home... I really don't see why you want to dial-in to your homebox...10:04
Gerrowouldn't that be faster to do a direct dial in?10:05
hyper_chGerro: some bios (or hardware) has problems with acpi... a general solution is to disable it for booting up10:05
hyper_chGerro: I don't know if you'd notice much difference10:05
Gerrowhat is acpi used for? can I disable it? I have a dual core10:06
hyper_ch!acpi10:06
maxamillionGerro: you on a laptop?10:06
Gerroand... nothing10:06
Gerroyes its a laptop10:06
hyper_ch!restricted10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:06
maxamillionhyper_ch: guess we are having bot lag10:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:06
hyper_ch:)10:06
hyper_chGerro: google for acpi and ubuntu :)10:06
maxamillionGerro: ACPI is for power management, its essentialy for a laptop10:06
maxamillionessential*10:07
Gerrowell it mentions during startup that acpi is doing something with IRQs10:07
maxamillionGerro: probably10:08
maxamillion!acpi10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
maxamillionbah!!!!10:08
maxamillionGerro: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/10:08
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Gerroacpi -t says 22.0 degrees C is that good?10:11
maxamillionGerro: yeah10:12
Gerroand fans don't cut on until like what 60 degrees C?10:12
maxamillionGerro: yeah, sounds about right10:12
Gerroisn't that melting point of something?...10:12
maxamillionGerro: not sure, but not of your proc ... my old server ran at 62 degrees C under full load and i got 4 years of good data crunching out of that one10:13
GerroI was playing a game on it for about an hour then got up and noticed my leg was like cooked alive10:14
Gerroso I tried sitting it on a desk or something and putting books under it and didn't work either desk was all melting10:15
maxamillionGerro: huh10:15
GerroI thought all the heating problems would be worked out of core duo 210:15
maxamillionGerro: my core2duo laptop from work doesn't have heating problems10:15
Gerrobut I don't want to run my fan 24/7 and let it die on me10:15
GerroI never hear it working but I feel air flow from fan..10:16
Gerrowell I'll try toying with acpi, some said it might be gpu problem10:17
GerroI use xgl on top of xorg maybe that is problem10:18
maxamillionits possinl;e10:18
Gerromaxamillion: thx for help10:18
maxamillionpossible*10:18
Gerrohyper_ch: byes10:18
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boxnetnethi, got this problem. i cant remove the icons on my desktop, Home , Trash and what not. any ideas ?10:37
Merchelodo you know how to use a terminal, and rm ?10:38
maxamillionboxnetnet: Applications->Settings->Settings Manager->Desktop->Behavior and then click the drop down box under "Desktop Icons" and select "None"10:39
boxnetnetthx10:40
maxamillionMerchelo: the Trash, Home Folder, etc can't be deleted via rm10:40
Merchelosudo rm ?10:40
Merchelobut your way is a lot better10:40
maxamillion;)10:40
maxamillionboxnetnet: np10:41
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mlalkakaxubuntu installed flawlessly my inspiron 8100 -- yay! but i have one problem: when i try to access one of the terminals (by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F{1-6}, i just get a blank screen. also, when xubuntu is starting up, i get a blank screen. is there a way to fix this?10:50
hyper_chmlalkaka: isn't it just   ALT-F210:51
mlalkakahyper_ch, well once you're at a terminal, you can just press alt+f2, but in order to get to a terminal from X, you have to use ctrl as well.10:52
maxamillionmlalkaka: its ctrl+alt+f2 if you are in X10:54
maxamillionerrr sorry10:54
maxamillionhyper_ch: *10:54
maxamillionanyhoo10:54
maxamillionmlalkaka: you by any chance running 64-bit?10:54
hyper_chmaxamillion: :)10:54
mlalkakamaxamillion, no i'm running 32-bit on a pentium 310:56
maxamillionmlalkaka: hmmm... ok, that's out then ... there was an old bug on amd64 and i was wondering if it for some reason popped back up10:57
mlalkakamaxamillion: oh10:57
maxamillionhmmm....10:58
maxamillionmlalkaka: do "ctrl+alt+f1" and while there hit F2 and see if that does anything10:59
maxamillionmlalkaka: if not, come back and we will attempt to go from there10:59
mlalkakamaxamillion: ok i tried that, but it didn't have any effect.11:02
maxamillionhrmmm....11:02
mlalkakamaxamillion: btw, the inspiron 8100 is a laptop, do i need special framebuffer drivers for laptop screens?11:03
maxamillionmight have something to do with a framebuffer setting11:03
maxamillionmlalkaka: i don't think so, i run xubuntu on my dell latitude d820 from work without any issue, but its possible11:03
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DarkKillHaha! VNC from Linux to Windows! I like it!11:10
maxamillionDarkKill: i hate to be rude, but why on earth would you want such a thing?11:10
DarkKillSaves alot of time11:10
DarkKillFor me, atleast11:11
maxamillionah, well as long as it makes your life easier :)11:11
DarkKillAlot of my friends use Windows, and I usually help them.11:11
maxamillionDarkKill: were you aware that you are able to do remote connect from linux to windows?11:11
maxamillionjust interface to the windows built in remote desktop service via a linux program11:12
DarkKillThat's what I said11:12
maxamillionright, but you are using VNC11:12
DarkKillOh11:13
DarkKillWindows has that?11:13
DarkKillI'm on 2000, don't want to upgrade to XP/Vista. Baaad!11:13
maxamillionDarkKill: yeah, its in the control panel somewhere, the user just enables it and you install rdesktop and connect11:13
maxamillion!rdesktop | DarkKill11:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:14
maxamillionbah!11:14
maxamillion!info rdesktop | DarkKill11:14
ubotudarkkill: rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 119 kB, installed size 444 kB11:14
arooAnyone know why umounting an NFS share with "sudo umount -f" only returns "device or resource is busy", I have no applications open that are using the NFS share11:18
maxamillionaroo: the terminal you are trying to unmount it in .. you by any chance in a directory on the NFS mount?11:19
arooNo, and another thing is if I try to get to a directory on the NFS mount it just hangs there forever until I ctrl+c the cd command11:20
maxamillionaroo: no clue ... i've honestly never messed with NFS11:20
maxamillioni just find FTP to be easier for all my practical purposes11:21
arooYea it's just between my two computers in my room11:21
maxamillionaroo: is the one just a file server?11:21
arooYea one is just an NFS server and I mount it's /home partition on this computer11:22
arooAs much as it pains me I'm going to reboot11:23
maxamillionaroo: something random is that you might want to look into for you home file server needs if FreeNAS : http://www.freenas.org11:23
maxamillionbah!!!11:23
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arooWell that fixed it11:26
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cliebow  xubuntu doth rocK11:37
cliebowlooks great on a thin client!11:37
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mlalkakadoes anyone here use wicd on xubuntu? i'm trying to run it, but it just freezes11:51
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TTT_TravisI have tried everything to get Ubuntu to work with my SHARP AQUOUS 37" LCD TV, it works but resolution is 640x480, the TV sends the wrong data to the computer11:52
TTT_TravisFeisty11:52
TTT_Travisdapper and edgy did the same thing11:52
TheSheepTTT_Travis: you can specify the horizontal and vertical refresh rates manually in the xorg.cong11:53
TheSheepconf11:53
mlalkakaTTT_Travis: and you may be able to find the necessary horizontal and vertical refresh rates for different resolutions from the tv's manual. for my monitor, they were listed there11:55
SportChickwin stick off12:02
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