[12:25] <maxamillion> never tried
[12:25] <maxamillion> i listen to netradio on both xmms and exaile
[12:25] <BFTD> anyone here into ham radio?
[12:25] <maxamillion> negative
[12:25] <BFTD> pity
[12:27] <largos> maxamillion: xmodmap and loadkeys are the apps I've always used. (loadkeys is the VT equivalent of xmodmap)
[12:27] <largos> VT = console
[12:27] <maxamillion> largos: ah, ok .... good to know, i will bring that up in the next development meeting
[12:27] <maxamillion> largos: right
[12:27] <maxamillion> VT/tty :P
[12:28] <largos> yeah... I've heard a lot of people reffer to console windows in X as VTs
[12:28] <Ezep-notebook> largos: how i change to US American with xmodmap?
[12:28] <maxamillion> largos: i just call them terminal sessions, but i think they are all understood acceptable terms
[12:29] <largos> Ezep-notebook: try "xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us"
[12:29] <largos> I'm not sure how to make that run on startup with xfce.  putting it in the starting apps doesn't seem to work.
[12:31] <Ezep-notebook>  /usr/share/xmodmap don't appear : S
[12:31] <largos> Ezep-notebook: run 'locate xmodmap.us' and try one of the results
[12:31] <largos> ( you *may* need to run updatedb first)
[12:32] <Ezep-notebook> update distro u mean? :p
[12:32] <largos> and you'll probably need to apt-get xmodmap if you don't have it :)
[12:32] <largos> Ezep-notebook: nope, 'updatedb' updates the locate database
[12:32] <Ezep-notebook> i have xmodmap...
[12:33] <Ezep-notebook> oh, i see.
[12:33] <largos> hm.. I don't know why you don't have /usr/share/xmodmap...
[12:34] <Ezep-notebook> maybe cause im apt-get upgrading?
[12:34] <largos> I guess taht's possible, seems unlikely to be the reason though.
[12:35] <Ezep-notebook> ok, im going to wait the upgrade
[12:36] <DRF> BFTD, sorry not into ham radio but there is a software page on debian for it so must be a few users in debian into ham radio. (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/hamradio/) much of which should be in ubuntu's universe i imagine.
[12:37] <BFTD> yeah
[12:43] <rdehler> I just installed xubuntu and now after the grub loading there's just a blinking cursor
[12:44] <rdehler> i've been searching for a solution for hours, can anyone help me troubleshoot
[12:44] <largos> Does it also say "Do you want to play a game?"
[12:44] <rdehler> no.
[12:44] <largos> dang.
[12:44] <rdehler> if only.
[12:45] <Ezep-notebook> wargames xD
[12:45] <maxamillion> WOPR?
[12:46] <maxamillion> rdehler: hit ctrl+alt+f1 and see if that brings you to a command line login? if not try ctrl+alt+f2 or ctrl+alt+f3
[12:47] <largos> it sounds more like a grub/kernel issue to me
[12:47] <rdehler> they don't
[12:47] <rdehler> i've tried plenty of grub options, i can't get any debug info to show
[12:48] <maxamillion> rdehler: when it boots hit f2 and see if that will give you verbose output from the kernel
[12:48] <rdehler> it doesn't boot yet
[12:48] <maxamillion> oh, not at all
[12:48] <rdehler> it goes to a blinking cursor RIGHT after grub
[12:48] <maxamillion> ?*
[12:48] <maxamillion> ohhh yeah, kernel or grub issue
[12:48] <maxamillion> sorry, i mis-understood
[12:48] <rdehler> hmm
[12:49] <largos> maxamillion: WOPR was/is a super computer that controls the US's nuclear arsenal in the movie Wargames. The premise is that a geek "hacks" into it by wardialing, and inadvertantly starts a war.
[12:49] <rdehler> this is the command i ran: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk /dev/sda
[12:49] <rdehler> it didn't fix it
[12:50] <rdehler> and device.map has this in it: (hd0)	/dev/sda
[12:50] <rdehler> which is correct
[12:50] <BFTD> I wanna do sudo apt-get upgrade, but I don't want one of the app's to be upgraded, how do i go about doing this?
[12:50] <maxamillion> largos: oh yeah... i remember that movie, he kills the super computer by making it play itself at tic-tac-toe
[12:51] <maxamillion> largos: well.... makes it stop playing the game anyways
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> congrats on making a fast little distro! running it on a 333 mhz toshiba with 92MB of RAM
[12:51] <maxamillion> nosrednaekim: :)
[12:51] <Ezep-notebook> largos:  "Do you want to play a game?" is a text that the game Warsgame say, isn't it?
[12:51] <rdehler> hmmm
[12:51] <largos> Ezep-notebook: yeah
[12:52] <maxamillion> rdehler: that's really strange ... you editing options in the grub terminal or with a liveCD?
[12:52] <Ezep-notebook> i don't understand that "game":s
[12:52] <rdehler> maxamillion: i've done both
[12:53] <rdehler> maxamillion: currently in the livecd
[12:53] <maxamillion> i actually don't think it matters now that i think about it ...
[12:55] <rdehler> ya just need this fixed man
[12:55] <maxamillion> brb
[12:55] <rdehler> frustrating as all hell
[12:55] <maxamillion> i would imagine so
[12:55] <rdehler> ubuntuforums.com has tons of the same problem with no (working) solutions
[12:58] <DRF> BFTD, I know there is a lock version option in synaptic but not sure of the command like equivilent.
[12:58] <rdehler> meh
[01:00] <rdehler> i don't see a problem with this grub config: title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic
[01:00] <rdehler> root		(hd0,0)
[01:00] <rdehler> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=d93d9210-6a20-456c-8401-c1b2077ecf8f ro quiet splash
[01:00] <rdehler> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
[01:00] <rdehler> quiet
[01:00] <rdehler> savedefault
[01:03] <rdehler> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5061
[01:03] <rdehler> "It seems the Dell Optiplex has some PCI bus issues and the BIOS configuration will not support Ubuntu right now."
[01:03] <rdehler> you've got to be joking.
[01:06] <DRF> rdehler, You might get somewhere if you look into installing lilo instead of grub, using the live cd.
[01:06] <rdehler> know where i can find out how?
[01:06] <Ezep-notebook> how could i change the language of the keyboard?
[01:06] <rdehler> just as easy as apt-get?
[01:07] <rdehler> ok installing now
[01:08] <DRF> I'm not sure exactly how to configure it from the live cd. Have to look in the forums/wiki. But if the problem is grub specific it might be a work around
[01:11] <rdehler> 0 results for "lilo"
[01:11] <DRF> rdehler, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p4.html is the lilo home page and has some documents on how to install/configure.
[01:12] <DRF> lilo is in main i think, but might not be on the CD so will need an internet connection.
[01:13] <rdehler> yep
[01:13] <rdehler> installed, configuring now
[01:16] <DRF> ok. The site i posted a link too seems to document the process you'll need quite well in the installing from live cd section.
[01:19] <rdehler> what a pain int he ass man
[01:20] <j1mc> DRF: any special reason for using lilo?
[01:23] <rdehler> he was trying to see if it was grub-only
[01:23] <rdehler> but i think this is more time than i want to spend
[01:25] <rdehler> i am inches from giving up
[01:27] <DRF> j1mc, only trying to eliminate grub as the cause of the problem.
[01:29] <rdehler> I get Error 21: Selected disk does not exist when i type root (hd0,0) at the console
[01:29] <rdehler> thing that's related?
[01:29] <DRF> I did see a post on a blog recently saying some of the newest intel boards won't boot from partitions which don't have the boot flag set thinking about it but not sure of the age of this dell
[01:29] <rdehler> dell's bios is from mar 2007
[01:30] <rdehler> it just came today, it's a p4HT (can't be that new)
[01:37] <PrimoTurbo> Where do I put GTK 2.x Themes for XFCE?
[01:38] <NefariousPrior> I'm confused. If xubuntu uses Xfce... why do all the screenshots look like gnome?
[01:39] <PrimoTurbo> because it uses GTK
[01:39] <PrimoTurbo> to style the menus and such
[01:39] <rdehler> ok, i give up
[01:39] <PrimoTurbo> and xubuntu is setup similar to ubuntu
[01:39] <rdehler> i'm going to install vista
[01:39] <rdehler> bye bye
[01:40] <DRF> rdehler, if it is the new intel board issue it's documented at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/115633 but i suspect your dell is suffering from another issue if it's not the latest model.
[01:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115633 in ubiquity "No boot flag on any partition - Failure to boot after install - Intel motherboards" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[01:41] <DRF> Sorry couldn't help further, but got to go now.
[01:41] <rdehler> it doesn't sound like the same problem
[01:42] <rdehler> my root partition has the boot flag (and only that flag)
[01:44] <rdehler> plus it's not that it tells me it can't find any bootable flags, it's that it locks up with a blinking cursor
[01:45] <DRF> I suggest either continuing asking for help here at another time or another ubuntu support channel or posting to the ubuntuforum or mailing list.  Wish i could help but not an expert in grub/the kernel myself.
[01:45] <NefariousPrior> Is there anything that ubuntu has that xubuntu doesn't.. or vice versa?
[01:46] <rdehler> thanks, but i've spent too many company resources as it is
[01:46] <rdehler> i have a half hour left to figure this out
[01:46] <DRF> But hope you do try (x)ubuntu again in the future if it doesn't work now.
[01:50] <rdehler> i have an optiplex 320: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409345
[01:59] <rdehler> ok i followed that guide, rebooting now
[01:59] <rdehler> *crosses fingers*
[02:03] <pbx> On an 800MHz laptop with 128MB RAM, what browser might I use that's lighter weight than Firefox but still standards compliant?  Is Epiphany likely to be much of an improvement?  (I've got Dillo installed, but...)
[02:03] <pbx> Is there a KHTML-based browser besides Konqueror?
[02:06] <pbx> Hm. Boring questions?
[02:09] <NefariousPrior> There's always Opera, but not opensource.
[02:10] <pbx> Ah, good, I'd forgotten Opera.  (Q.v. Poland)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> pbx: does it have to be GUi browser? although swiftfox is gecko based and is faster
[02:11] <gnomefreak> iceape-browser is also but you wont see that until gutsy
[02:12] <pbx> gnomefreak: interesting, didn't know about either of those.
[02:13] <pbx> Is an iceape, like, something that kills iceweasels?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> pbx: its seamonkey with debian branding
[02:13] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:13] <gnomefreak> monkeys might eat a weasel :)
[02:23] <pbx> Ooh, Epiphany has a Python console :)
[02:23] <pbx> Not that I have any particular use for it!
[02:26] <pbx> OK, one more really dumb question. If I'm downloading a .tgz file, what's the least fussy GUI thing I can do to expand the thing?  The usual xarchiver or whatever interface seems stupidly indirect to me -- certainly more of a hassle than tar xzf in the shell...
[02:47] <pbx> Hm. I thought that one was going to be easy!
[03:07] <Lectus> how can I extract rpm files on xubuntu?
[03:08] <crdlb> !alien
[03:17] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:26] <sumguy231> So I updated a Xubuntu computer (freshly installed) from Edgy to Feisty - now when non-sudoers try to launch one of the device icons on the desktop it throws the error "Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy" "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid <uid-number>". Any suggestions?
[03:29] <somerville32> sumguy231, File a bug please :)
[03:29] <sumguy231> Oh. Why? Did I not ask right? I'm sort of new here, it seems odd to file a bug report so soon.
[03:34] <sumguy231> I found a relevant bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/98751
[03:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 98751 in kdelibs "feisty beta fails to mount hard drives" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[03:34] <sumguy231> But It's filed under kdelibs for some reason and doesn't look like it's ever going to go anywhere.
[03:54] <sumguy231> ...Hmm, still no dice. Back to Edgy tommorow then.
[04:19] <artabrahao> hi, the vncviewer works fine in ubuntu, but when I type vncserver appears command not fount. What can it be?
[04:35] <artabrahao> hi, the vncviewer works fine in ubuntu, but when I type vncserver appears command not fount. What can it be?
[04:43] <crdlb> !find vncserver
 is there a channel called vncserver?
[04:47] <crdlb> a channel?
[04:47] <crdlb> I don't think so
[04:47] <crdlb> seems ubotu is lagging again
[04:49] <artabrahao> so what means !find vncserver?
[04:50] <crdlb> it's a command to ubotu
[04:52] <crdlb> artabrahao: did you install the vncserver package?
[04:52] <ubotu> Found: libvncserver-dev, tightvncserver, vncserver
[04:53] <crdlb> the command itself in vncserver is "realvncserver"
[04:53] <artabrahao> via synaptic I have installad all vnc packages
[04:55] <artabrahao> When I type !find vncserver appears event not found, but I'm the vncviewer is working
[04:55] <crdlb> run realvncserver
[04:57] <artabrahao> command not founf
[05:05] <artabrahao> ?
[05:05] <crdlb> !find realvncserver
[05:06] <ubotu> File realvncserver found in vncserver
[05:07] <curiogeo> hello I am trying to uncompress a file that i downloaded with internet explorer and pushed to my xub box with winscp
[05:08] <curiogeo> it is a tar.gz file that was renamed tar.tar
[05:08] <artabrahao> event not found
[05:08] <curiogeo> I ran tar xvjf on it and it failed
[05:09] <curiogeo> I tried using wget and it stalled
[05:09] <crdlb> artabrahao: you're not supposed to run the ! command
[05:09] <crdlb> that's just for ubotu
[05:09] <crdlb> you apparently don't have the vncserver package installed
[05:11] <artabrahao> crdlb> how is it possible if I installed all vnc via synaptic?
[05:12] <crdlb> no idea
[05:12] <crdlb> sudo apt-get install vncserver
[05:12] <crdlb> you don't have universe enabled maybe?
[05:12] <artabrahao> crdlb> what is the universe?
[05:13] <crdlb> !universe
[05:13] <artabrahao> crdlb> !universe event not foung
[05:14] <crdlb> gah
[05:14] <crdlb> don't run that
[05:14] <crdlb> it's a command for the bot
[05:14] <crdlb> who happens to be rather slow today
[05:16] <artabrahao> crdlb> what is the universE?
[05:22] <Pumpernickel> It's a repository.  Open synaptic, click on the settings menu, select repositories, and enable them.  Then reload your package cache.
[05:22] <VR_> !pidgin
[05:24] <Pumpernickel> Also, if your bot query has nothing to do with the channel conversation, please use a private message.
[05:24] <Pumpernickel> hint hint, VR_
[05:27] <artabrahao> crdlb> !universe event not foung
[05:27] <artabrahao> crdlb> what is the universE?
[05:34] <SurfnKid> TheSheep, :)
[05:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:39] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[05:40] <crdlb> yay he's back
[06:27] <bordy> j1mc: thanks once again. three days later. lol
[06:27] <j1mc> bordy: heh.  what was the problem again?  :)
[06:27] <bordy> mad flickering
[06:27] <j1mc> oh... :)  i think the 16-bit thing is saving a lot of people.
[06:27] <bordy> I even figured out how to enable my xircom card finally.. but think it requires doin an lfconfig and dhclient every time
[06:31] <j1mc> bordy: ah... we are looking to get something more user friendly for gutsy gibbon, the next release.
[06:31] <bordy> well from what I am seeing, theres alot of issues with the xircom realport
[06:32] <j1mc> in the meantime, you may want to install network-manager-gnome
[06:33] <j1mc> and then enter "nohup nm-applet" from the command line
[06:43] <bordy> j1mc: did the nohup nm-applet
[06:43] <bordy> now, what did I do?
[06:43] <bordy> cause it evidently stopped my intarwebs
[06:44] <j1mc> bordy: did a network manager applet go up in your toolbar?
[06:45] <j1mc> ... i think you need to add it to the toolbar manually once.
[06:45] <j1mc> type killall nm-applet
[06:46] <bordy> yeah, its up there. and it disconnected then reconnected
[06:46] <bordy> but in the terminal, the nohup command hasnt "finished" as it were
[06:46] <bordy> no new prompt yet
[06:47] <j1mc> bordy... do you have a separate terminal window open... and that's where you see the "nohup" activity (or whatever)? :)
[06:47] <bordy> no, just one window. It just never moved after saying " nohup: appending output to `nohup.out' "
[06:48] <j1mc> bordy: what's your irc client?
[06:49] <bordy> well konversation right now (talking on the desktop, working on the lap)
[06:49] <bordy> I was on irssi before
[06:49] <j1mc> ok... just close the terminal window that had the 'nohup...' command in it.
[06:49] <j1mc> see what happens.
[06:49] <j1mc> "nohup" is supposed to allow the terminal window to close w/o affecting the program that it started.
[06:49] <bordy> nothing seems to happen.
[06:49] <j1mc> that's good.
[06:50] <j1mc> is nm-applet still up in your toolbar?
[06:50] <bordy> yep. and I am back online
[06:50] <j1mc> ok.  that's good, right?
[06:50] <j1mc> are things "working"?
[06:50] <bordy> yep!
[06:51] <j1mc> neato burrito
[06:52] <bordy> will that identify if new networks are available? as in, if I bring it to work or school and plug in?
[06:53] <j1mc> yeah... it should.
[06:53] <bordy> sweet. I'll test that out tomorrow thne
[06:53] <bordy> Thanks (again) for the help. lol
[06:53] <j1mc> xubuntu's next release will either have that app (w/o the gnome libraries), or will have something similar.
[06:53] <bordy> sweet
[06:56] <punktux> how to add startup program in xubuntu?
[06:57] <j1mc> punktux: you mean, a program that starts at boot?
[06:57] <punktux> ya in ubuntu i can go session and add program
[06:58] <punktux> but i cant find such feature in xubuntu
[06:58] <j1mc> punktux: what version of xubuntu are you running?
[06:59] <punktux> the newest
[06:59] <j1mc> punktux: ok, go to "Applications --> Settings --> Autostarted Applications"
[06:59] <j1mc> is that what you need?
[07:00] <punktux> oh found it
[07:00] <punktux> thans
[07:00] <punktux> ks
[07:00] <j1mc> yw  :)
[08:36] <punktux> the applications left open from the previous session would open again automatically everytime i log in
[08:37] <punktux> i've unchecked ''save session for future login'' and deleted .config folder
[08:37] <punktux> but it still does this
[08:45] <Deviad> Is there any good gui for manage synaptics?
[08:49] <Myrtti> say what?
[10:23] <Deviad> Hello
[11:26] <Deviad> Can anyone pls tell me what can cause the xfce plugin to say 0% ac?
[11:26] <Deviad> ac, battery are on
[11:27] <Merchelo> hmm, there's also an xfce channel, just FYI, but i've never come accross that.
[11:32] <Deviad> Merchelo, this isn't really xfce related
[11:32] <Deviad> I guess I'm having some troubles with some modules
[11:32] <Deviad> it has worked properly for a while
[11:32] <Deviad> I just did rmmod usbhid and modprobe usbhid
[11:33] <Deviad> and I ran into this
[11:33] <Deviad> :\
[11:33] <Deviad> shit
[11:33] <Deviad> I dunno what to search for in google to solve the problem
[11:33] <Deviad> :((
[11:33] <Deviad> I don't want to reinstall everything
[11:37] <Merchelo> !battery
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about battery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <Merchelo> !info battery
[11:37] <ubotu> Package battery does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:10] <jarnos> Is there a way to put xfce4-mixer wannabe master such that it would adjust audio card's both output devices? (I have SBLive! Value) and the other the 2nd output is affected by the "Wave Surround" slider only.
[01:18] <kadakas> does Nautilus work on Xubuntu 7.04 ?
[01:20] <kadakas> gaim crashed :p
[01:50] <Deviad> Can anyone pls tell me why the scripts in ac.d e battery.d do not get loaded properly on boot?
[01:50] <Deviad> I have to unplug the cable to make them start
[01:50] <Deviad> working
[01:50] <Deviad> On boot if I have the cable plugged the speed is 1.0 whereas it should be 2.3 ghz
[01:50] <Deviad> if the cable is unplugged on boot I get 1.0 but the backlight is not set properly it means that battery.d/something.sh didn't get loaded
[01:50] <Deviad> pls help
[01:52] <Myrtti> if the problem isn't actually xubuntu (xfce) related, you'll probably get more help at #ubuntu
[02:21] <ghalib> hi
[02:21] <ghalib> i am new to ubuntu
[02:21] <ghalib> but if u say in linux then it's right
[02:43] <pastorn> my installation freezes at 85 % (Installed xubuntu-desktop is what it says). i'm using the text install mode
[02:46] <pastorn> nevermind....
[02:46] <pastorn> it was just VERY slow there...
[02:49] <Merchelo> heh
[02:50] <bordy> Anyone know how to get the gnome network manager running again? j1mc told me how to do it last night when he told me to install it, but I forgot :(
[02:51] <Merchelo> network-manager ?
[02:51] <bordy> that didnt do it, no
[02:52] <bordy> iut was some weird command I hadnt used before, like hoput or something strange like that
[02:59] <pastorn> ok, there's still trouble... i just finished the installer and on my first boot all i see is a white blinking line in the top right corner. it doesn't even get to grub
[03:06] <Catrik> I deleted everything from Applications menu. Any easy way to get the stuff back there?
[03:06] <Catrik> Easy = faster than add everything one by one
[03:07] <pastorn> create a new user
[03:09] <Catrik> Hm.. Can I then copy the menu file from that user?
[03:09] <Catrik> Trytry
[04:47] <gui_> hi
[04:47] <gui_> I installed xubuntu64 (after similar problems under ubuntu32) and nothing change! My mouse become crazy, I receive the following message : [  979.152364]  psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity
[04:47] <gui_> [  985.288424]  psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away
[04:47] <gui_> what's the matter ? :)
[04:55] <sa3atsky> hi
[04:55] <sa3atsky> i need help installing xubuntu
[04:56] <sa3atsky> i have my hard disks installed on a sata controller
[04:56] <sa3atsky> 4port pci sata controller
[04:56] <sa3atsky> and whenever i try to format the drive and install i get an error message
[04:56] <sa3atsky> what could be the problem?
[04:59] <sa3atsky> when i choose manual there are a few options that are pretty useless
[04:59] <sa3atsky> shud i install on command-line instead?
[05:01] <sa3atsky> very useless
[05:02] <sa3atsky> is there like a stepbystep guide in installing ubuntu?
[05:02] <sa3atsky> ive had it for a month, and i really thought itd be better than this
[05:02] <sa3atsky> horrible documentation..
[05:02] <sa3atsky> outa here
[06:20] <gui_> hi
[06:20] <gui_> please, is there any way to add a launcher for xchat for example in the pannel with xubuntu ?
[06:22] <j1mc> if i were to delete the xfce .config file in my home directory, log out of x, and then log back in, would it give me the default xfce-style layout (w/o the xubuntu-specific modifications).
[06:27] <j1mc> come on, xubunteros.  someone should know this.  :)
[06:27] <gui_> :)
[06:27] <j1mc> hi gui
[06:28] <Myrtti> gui_: sure?
[06:36] <gui_> I just want to add gnome-terminal to the panel for example :)
[06:36] <Myrtti> oh, I forgot I don't have xfce on this computer
[06:36] <j1mc> gui_: what's wrong with xfce4-terminal?
[06:37] <gui_> nothing
[06:37] <gui_> so, how to add xfce4-terminal to the panel ?
[06:37] <gui_> for quick launch
[06:37] <j1mc> right-click on the panel, select add an item . . .
[06:37] <gui_> and ?
[06:37] <j1mc> then name the item you're adding
[06:38] <j1mc> select an icon (a terminal-looking icon)  :)
[06:38] <j1mc> in the command box, just type  "xfce4-terminal" (w/o the quotes)
[06:39] <gui_> I can add a launcher on the desktop without problem
[06:39] <gui_> but I can't see button to add a new launcher with the pannel
[06:39] <gui_> :-(
[06:40] <gui_> perhaps I have a bug :)
[06:40] <gui_> no problems with that
[06:40] <gui_> I'll find later
[06:40] <gui_> I have a rather big problem with my mouse
[06:40] <gui_> when I use many data on the harddrive and move my mouse, sometimes it becomes crazy ! And I can retrieve some errors in the kernel msg.
[06:41] <gui_> I saw the same thing with different version of linux and different 2.6.X kernel
[06:41] <gui_> too bad ...
[06:41] <gui_> I'm wondering about a hardware problem
[06:41] <gui_> but it's difficult to find something with a search engine
[06:43] <gui_> [ 1308.387591]  psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity
[06:43] <gui_> [ 1309.048521]  psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away.
[06:43] <gui_> does it make sens ?
[06:43] <j1mc> gui_: hmmmm... not sure.
[06:43] <j1mc> i'm not that much of an expert, unfortunately.
[06:44] <j1mc> and sorry i wasn't able to help a lot w/ the panel issue.  i'm at work, so don' thave a xubuntu machine in front of me.
[06:44] <j1mc> gui_: perhaps do a memory test?  make sure your hardware is good, and not giving errors.
[06:44] <gui_> no problems with that it's a secondary problem
[06:45] <gui_> how to test mouse settings ?
[06:45] <gui_> sorry
[06:45] <gui_> how to test mouse hardware ?
[06:45] <gui_> (from the mainboard connector)
[06:46] <gui_> root@gomera:/etc# find . -iname "inittab"
[06:46] <gui_> root@gomera:/etc#
[06:46] <gui_>  ??
[06:46] <gui_> :)
[06:52] <gui_> I'll be back
[06:52] <gui_> thanks
[08:54] <hyper__ch> hiho
[09:44] <KillNights> I have a small question. When browsing in Firefox, how do I remove the panels? They are annoying when trying to enter fullscreen :(
[09:46] <hyper_ch> KillNights: tried F11?
[09:47] <KillNights> I'm using 'LogMeIn', I think it's made in Java. When I select 'full screen', the panels appear. Any solutions?
[09:48] <hyper_ch> dunno what logmein is
[09:48] <DarKiller> It's a VPN solution by the creators of Hamachi
[09:48] <hyper_ch> dunno
[09:48] <hyper_ch> F11 --> full screen in ff
[09:50] <Gerro> anyone mind recommending a guide so I can dial into my xubuntu box at home and use internet elsewhere
[09:50] <Gerro> maxamillion: sup max
[09:51] <maxamillion> nodda
[09:57] <hyper_ch> Gerro: what do you mean=?
[09:58] <Gerro> hyper_ch: setup a remote dial-in server
[09:58] <hyper_ch> and what do you want to do with it?
[09:59] <Gerro> hyper_ch: going to be staying over friends house and they just moved so hoping to still be able to dial into my linux box and check email etc
[09:59] <hyper_ch> Gerro: vnc, X11-forwarding, freenx, xlive cd
[10:00] <Gerro> hyper_ch: yes but they have no connection besides dial up
[10:00] <Gerro> and I don't feel like lugging my pc with me
[10:00] <hyper_ch> Gerro: ah I see... well, good luck :)
[10:01] <Gerro> hyper_ch: all guides I can find are for dial up connection sharing and using standard dial up with linux nothing about setting up a remote server for it
[10:02] <Gerro> lot of stuff about pppd :(
[10:02] <hyper_ch> Gerro: why do you want to dial-into your computer at home? if it is hooked up to the internet... and if the other one has dialed-up to the net... where's the problem
[10:03] <Gerro> hyper_ch: I dunno maybe I can dial in through my cellphone too if I ever fix my laptop, afraid to use it overheats so much.
[10:04] <Gerro> hyper_ch: you know anything about acpi someone said it might be configuration issue with it
[10:04] <hyper_ch> Gerro: if both computer are somehow online you can access the one at home... I really don't see why you want to dial-in to your homebox...
[10:05] <Gerro> wouldn't that be faster to do a direct dial in?
[10:05] <hyper_ch> Gerro: some bios (or hardware) has problems with acpi... a general solution is to disable it for booting up
[10:05] <hyper_ch> Gerro: I don't know if you'd notice much difference
[10:06] <Gerro> what is acpi used for? can I disable it? I have a dual core
[10:06] <hyper_ch> !acpi
[10:06] <maxamillion> Gerro: you on a laptop?
[10:06] <Gerro> and... nothing
[10:06] <Gerro> yes its a laptop
[10:06] <hyper_ch> !restricted
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: guess we are having bot lag
[10:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:06] <hyper_ch> :)
[10:06] <hyper_ch> Gerro: google for acpi and ubuntu :)
[10:06] <maxamillion> Gerro: ACPI is for power management, its essentialy for a laptop
[10:07] <maxamillion> essential*
[10:07] <Gerro> well it mentions during startup that acpi is doing something with IRQs
[10:08] <maxamillion> Gerro: probably
[10:08] <maxamillion> !acpi
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <maxamillion> bah!!!!
[10:08] <maxamillion> Gerro: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/
[10:11] <Gerro> acpi -t says 22.0 degrees C is that good?
[10:12] <maxamillion> Gerro: yeah
[10:12] <Gerro> and fans don't cut on until like what 60 degrees C?
[10:12] <maxamillion> Gerro: yeah, sounds about right
[10:12] <Gerro> isn't that melting point of something?...
[10:13] <maxamillion> Gerro: not sure, but not of your proc ... my old server ran at 62 degrees C under full load and i got 4 years of good data crunching out of that one
[10:14] <Gerro> I was playing a game on it for about an hour then got up and noticed my leg was like cooked alive
[10:15] <Gerro> so I tried sitting it on a desk or something and putting books under it and didn't work either desk was all melting
[10:15] <maxamillion> Gerro: huh
[10:15] <Gerro> I thought all the heating problems would be worked out of core duo 2
[10:15] <maxamillion> Gerro: my core2duo laptop from work doesn't have heating problems
[10:15] <Gerro> but I don't want to run my fan 24/7 and let it die on me
[10:16] <Gerro> I never hear it working but I feel air flow from fan..
[10:17] <Gerro> well I'll try toying with acpi, some said it might be gpu problem
[10:18] <Gerro> I use xgl on top of xorg maybe that is problem
[10:18] <maxamillion> its possinl;e
[10:18] <Gerro> maxamillion: thx for help
[10:18] <maxamillion> possible*
[10:18] <Gerro> hyper_ch: byes
[10:37] <boxnetnet> hi, got this problem. i cant remove the icons on my desktop, Home , Trash and what not. any ideas ?
[10:38] <Merchelo> do you know how to use a terminal, and rm ?
[10:39] <maxamillion> boxnetnet: Applications->Settings->Settings Manager->Desktop->Behavior and then click the drop down box under "Desktop Icons" and select "None"
[10:40] <boxnetnet> thx
[10:40] <maxamillion> Merchelo: the Trash, Home Folder, etc can't be deleted via rm
[10:40] <Merchelo> sudo rm ?
[10:40] <Merchelo> but your way is a lot better
[10:40] <maxamillion> ;)
[10:41] <maxamillion> boxnetnet: np
[10:50] <mlalkaka> xubuntu installed flawlessly my inspiron 8100 -- yay! but i have one problem: when i try to access one of the terminals (by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F{1-6}, i just get a blank screen. also, when xubuntu is starting up, i get a blank screen. is there a way to fix this?
[10:51] <hyper_ch> mlalkaka: isn't it just   ALT-F2
[10:52] <mlalkaka> hyper_ch, well once you're at a terminal, you can just press alt+f2, but in order to get to a terminal from X, you have to use ctrl as well.
[10:54] <maxamillion> mlalkaka: its ctrl+alt+f2 if you are in X
[10:54] <maxamillion> errr sorry
[10:54] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: *
[10:54] <maxamillion> anyhoo
[10:54] <maxamillion> mlalkaka: you by any chance running 64-bit?
[10:54] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: :)
[10:56] <mlalkaka> maxamillion, no i'm running 32-bit on a pentium 3
[10:57] <maxamillion> mlalkaka: hmmm... ok, that's out then ... there was an old bug on amd64 and i was wondering if it for some reason popped back up
[10:57] <mlalkaka> maxamillion: oh
[10:58] <maxamillion> hmmm....
[10:59] <maxamillion> mlalkaka: do "ctrl+alt+f1" and while there hit F2 and see if that does anything
[10:59] <maxamillion> mlalkaka: if not, come back and we will attempt to go from there
[11:02] <mlalkaka> maxamillion: ok i tried that, but it didn't have any effect.
[11:02] <maxamillion> hrmmm....
[11:03] <mlalkaka> maxamillion: btw, the inspiron 8100 is a laptop, do i need special framebuffer drivers for laptop screens?
[11:03] <maxamillion> might have something to do with a framebuffer setting
[11:03] <maxamillion> mlalkaka: i don't think so, i run xubuntu on my dell latitude d820 from work without any issue, but its possible
[11:10] <DarkKill> Haha! VNC from Linux to Windows! I like it!
[11:10] <maxamillion> DarkKill: i hate to be rude, but why on earth would you want such a thing?
[11:10] <DarkKill> Saves alot of time
[11:11] <DarkKill> For me, atleast
[11:11] <maxamillion> ah, well as long as it makes your life easier :)
[11:11] <DarkKill> Alot of my friends use Windows, and I usually help them.
[11:11] <maxamillion> DarkKill: were you aware that you are able to do remote connect from linux to windows?
[11:12] <maxamillion> just interface to the windows built in remote desktop service via a linux program
[11:12] <DarkKill> That's what I said
[11:12] <maxamillion> right, but you are using VNC
[11:13] <DarkKill> Oh
[11:13] <DarkKill> Windows has that?
[11:13] <DarkKill> I'm on 2000, don't want to upgrade to XP/Vista. Baaad!
[11:13] <maxamillion> DarkKill: yeah, its in the control panel somewhere, the user just enables it and you install rdesktop and connect
[11:14] <maxamillion> !rdesktop | DarkKill
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <maxamillion> bah!
[11:14] <maxamillion> !info rdesktop | DarkKill
[11:14] <ubotu> darkkill: rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 119 kB, installed size 444 kB
[11:18] <aroo> Anyone know why umounting an NFS share with "sudo umount -f" only returns "device or resource is busy", I have no applications open that are using the NFS share
[11:19] <maxamillion> aroo: the terminal you are trying to unmount it in .. you by any chance in a directory on the NFS mount?
[11:20] <aroo> No, and another thing is if I try to get to a directory on the NFS mount it just hangs there forever until I ctrl+c the cd command
[11:20] <maxamillion> aroo: no clue ... i've honestly never messed with NFS
[11:21] <maxamillion> i just find FTP to be easier for all my practical purposes
[11:21] <aroo> Yea it's just between my two computers in my room
[11:21] <maxamillion> aroo: is the one just a file server?
[11:22] <aroo> Yea one is just an NFS server and I mount it's /home partition on this computer
[11:23] <aroo> As much as it pains me I'm going to reboot
[11:23] <maxamillion> aroo: something random is that you might want to look into for you home file server needs if FreeNAS : http://www.freenas.org
[11:23] <maxamillion> bah!!!
[11:26] <aroo> Well that fixed it
[11:37] <cliebow>   xubuntu doth rocK
[11:37] <cliebow> looks great on a thin client!
[11:51] <mlalkaka> does anyone here use wicd on xubuntu? i'm trying to run it, but it just freezes
[11:52] <TTT_Travis> I have tried everything to get Ubuntu to work with my SHARP AQUOUS 37" LCD TV, it works but resolution is 640x480, the TV sends the wrong data to the computer
[11:52] <TTT_Travis> Feisty
[11:52] <TTT_Travis> dapper and edgy did the same thing
[11:53] <TheSheep> TTT_Travis: you can specify the horizontal and vertical refresh rates manually in the xorg.cong
[11:53] <TheSheep> conf
[11:55] <mlalkaka> TTT_Travis: and you may be able to find the necessary horizontal and vertical refresh rates for different resolutions from the tv's manual. for my monitor, they were listed there
[12:02] <SportChick> win stick off