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| jjesse | evening | 12:19 |
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| mhb | Riddell: with us being stuck with KDE3/Qt4 for two releases, a port of polyester to qt4 sounds sensible | 12:29 |
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| ryanakca | nixternal: well, looks like we're one step closer to the groupware server :) | 02:22 |
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| nixternal | ryanakca: rock on! | 03:42 |
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| nixternal | Dell sucks...they offer Vista, Ubuntu, and FreeDOS, but not Kubuntu@#@ !@##@ | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | aw | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | but you've got vista, what else do you need? | 04:06 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee and crimsun!!!!! you see what I have to put up with ^^ :) | 04:07 |
| nixternal | I am going to buy a system with FreeDOS...cuz it rocks | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: poor you. | 04:08 |
| jjesse | why does my dell w/ vista cause less :) | 04:08 |
| jjesse | cost | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: make sure you dual boot vista on there, so you can have your pointy-clicky sensation. | 04:08 |
| nixternal | jjesse: because Ubuntu is better...jeesh ;p | 04:09 |
| jjesse | actually i priced out a smiliar box from system76 and it was chearper on system76 then dell | 04:09 |
| nixternal | mey, tty1-6 doesn't have pointy-clicky | 04:09 |
| nixternal | System76 is the way to go...I seen their little white laptop at school...wow is that thing sweet | 04:09 |
| ajmitch | nixternal: gpm | 04:09 |
| nixternal | gpm..wth...KDM!!! | 04:10 |
| nixternal | haha | 04:10 |
| nixternal | gallons per mile | 04:10 |
| nixternal | meter | 04:10 |
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| viviersf | Riddell, ping | 08:39 |
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| Tonio_ | yo | 09:35 |
| hunger | Hmmm... kontact has file conflicts with knode. | 09:36 |
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| Tonio_ | hunger: on feisty ? | 09:47 |
| hunger | Tonio_: Nope, gutsy. | 09:47 |
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| Tonio_ | hunger: hum, still with the desktop file ? | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | I already had to fix that several times :) | 09:47 |
| hunger | Tonio_: I think so, the error message is no longer in my scrollback buffer though. | 09:48 |
| hunger | Tonio_: Ah, found it: /usr/share/services/kontact/knodeplugin.desktop | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: that's a common thing | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: are the packages for 3.5.7 released ? | 09:50 |
| hunger | Tonio_: There are 3.5.7 packages in gutsy. Dunno whether they are officially released or not. | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: okay I'll fix kontact then | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: give me a moment | 09:52 |
| Riddell | viviersf: hi | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | hey Riddell | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: I'm just fixing the issue | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I worked on kaffeine yesterday, and I know why it doesn't pass the WMP detection on several websites | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: in fact it needs patching to change its identity depending the mimetype, as kmplayer does | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll fix this before switching to kaffeine by default | 09:54 |
| LongPointyStick | hi Tonio_, Riddell | 10:02 |
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| MidMark | guys there is some delays in linux kernel to appears in update manager? I got only updates for restricted modules, nvidia driver and linux-libc-dev | 10:10 |
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| MidMark | this also can break things if I install only that packages | 10:10 |
| Hobbsee | yes.... | 10:10 |
| Hobbsee | MidMark: l-r-m has to be built after the kernel - it always happens taht way | 10:11 |
| MidMark | not in this case | 10:11 |
| MidMark | restricted modules are here | 10:11 |
| MidMark | linux kernel nope | 10:12 |
| Hobbsee | mirror thing, or what? | 10:12 |
| MidMark | Hobbsee: kernel comes from security? | 10:13 |
| Hobbsee | gutsy security isnt open yet. | 10:14 |
| MidMark | I'm talking about feisty | 10:14 |
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| Hobbsee | er, you need to actually say that, else it's assumed you're running the development release. | 10:14 |
| Hobbsee | then i have no idea | 10:15 |
| Riddell | very likely it's not a problem, but the relevant channel is #ubuntu-kernel | 10:15 |
| Hobbsee | my feisty is borkened. | 10:15 |
| Riddell | or #ubuntu | 10:15 |
| Hobbsee | here is *definetly* not relevant | 10:15 |
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| Hobbsee | people are - but the default for development is gutsy... | 10:17 |
| Jucato | it is a devel channel, you'd expect the people here would be running devel versions most of the time :) | 10:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: what's your opinion on bulding kde 3.5.7 for dapper? | 10:17 |
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| Hobbsee | it being a LTS and all, and with the improvements in kdepim | 10:18 |
| Jucato | (no 3.5.6 for Dapper though) | 10:18 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: if someone wants to do it, go ahead | 10:18 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: right. | 10:18 |
| Hobbsee | i wonder how many opeople would want it | 10:19 |
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| Tonio_ | hunger: strange I can't see where is the conflict for kontact and knode... | 10:39 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: probably quite a few | 10:39 |
| Hobbsee | hmmmm | 10:39 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: hey | 10:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: just wrote you :) | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: isn't the issue do to the update, I mean if the file isn't in the same package.... | 10:40 |
| _StefanS_ | hey Jucato, Hobbsee ! | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: just answered ;) | 10:41 |
| Hobbsee | hiya! | 10:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: and all | 10:41 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_!!! | 10:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: wrote you again :) | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: according to the packaging, there shouldn't be any conflict... | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: answered again :) | 10:41 |
| _StefanS_ | what the.. :) | 10:41 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: two weeks | 10:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I'm just merging with knm svn right now, seems to be any easy thing | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | right | 10:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I've got the patch for kubuntu 0.1, if you want to try it out | 10:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ofcourse you would need nm 0.6.5 | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: nopackages for this right now no ? | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I wasn't thinking about backporting latest NM for feisty :) | 10:43 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: only the one on the forum, but I have them compiled already if you want to try | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | no way to upload kaffeine right now........ | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I know | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | I have to ping siretart | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: btw, i suspect you were supposed to CC the TB, at this point, seenig asthe main mail had gone thru. or you could just come to the meeting. | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: it was just easier patching a known package, and the up the stuff to the svn version | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: sure | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: well I'll probably package knm from scratch when the next tarball is released... | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: changes lots of things to what I know | 10:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: yes, probably, should be easy though as it doesn't differ much from the current code | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: ah ? | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | thought it would change lots of things, including vpn suppoer, kwallet integration etc.... | 10:46 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: well the only changes seem to be eap two phase, and leap (plus some smaller fixes) | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: ho you talk about nm, not knm :) | 10:46 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I talk about knm | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | hum, this is not what I remember from my latest svn check..... but maybe I'm just confused... | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's patch kaffeine offline and wait for latest xine to reach the repos.... | 10:47 |
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| _StefanS_ | sweet, the first attempt just compiled | 10:48 |
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| Lure | _StefanS_: they have also added vpn support, right? | 10:51 |
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| _StefanS_ | Lure: uhm yep, I didn't pay much attention to it, but i think it said it wasn't supported on ubuntu yet | 10:51 |
| _StefanS_ | they changed the kwallet interaction to be async, maybe that solves those periodic failures with knm on login | 10:52 |
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| hunger | _StefanS_: Does knm work for you at all (on gutsy)? | 11:05 |
| _StefanS_ | hunger: havent tried it on gutsy yet | 11:05 |
| _StefanS_ | hunger: I know there's (or was) a bug in networkmanager ( Hobbsee?) | 11:05 |
| hunger | _StefanS_: It fails to load libnetworkmanager or something similar. | 11:07 |
| _StefanS_ | hunger: I havent tested it, but I guess it is supposed to be bugged since its an alpha release | 11:07 |
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| Lure | hunger: that should be fixed with recent kdepim upload | 11:16 |
| === Lure did not try it yet though | ||
| hunger | Lure: Don't see a newer version of kdepim yet. | 11:16 |
| Lure | hunger: dpkg -l networkstatus | 11:17 |
| Lure | hunger: it should be 3.5.7 something | 11:17 |
| Lure | hunger: it was built 18 hours ago, so it should be also on mirrors... https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/339984 | 11:18 |
| hunger | Lure: Oh, you were refering to that problem, thought you were talking about the kontact/knode conflict. | 11:18 |
| Lure | hunger: knetworkmanager in gutsy | 11:19 |
| hunger | Lure: You are right, knetworkmanager starts again! | 11:19 |
| === hunger hops. | ||
| hunger | Lure: Thanks for the tip. | 11:19 |
| Lure | hunger: we disabled kitchecnsync temporarily (needs new opensync which is not in main) to allow build of kdepim | 11:19 |
| hunger | Lure: No problem for me, got nothing to sync anyway:-) | 11:20 |
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| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: fixed with a new kdepim upload, yes. | 11:27 |
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| _StefanS_ | :D | 11:28 |
| === Hobbsee points at _StefanS_ too | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: did you include the kmilo's appearance patch to your gutsy packages ? | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's to be discussed in the next meeting, maybe we should just include the patch and let the people test for feedback | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KMilo+-+Customizable+DefaultSkin?content=56287 | 11:34 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: whcih package against? | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: kdeutils | 11:34 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: not sure if it's done for 3.5. | 11:35 |
| Hobbsee | 7 | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: that why we should test :) | 11:35 |
| Hobbsee | oh, Riddell must have uploaded it. i didnt do kdeutils, iirc | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: works with 3.5.6, there shouldn't be lots of difference reguarding to kmilo in 357 | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: okay | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: well I test with the patch and eventually upload if it applies | 11:36 |
| Tonio_ | would be nice to have a cool kubutu little theme for this :) | 11:36 |
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| Hobbsee | this is true | 11:40 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: I did not but feel free to add | 11:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will do | 11:48 |
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| === Hobbsee wonders what the latest feisty current kernel is. | ||
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: 2.6.20-16 iirc | 12:10 |
| gnomefreak | or will be in aday or two | 12:11 |
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| siretart | Tonio_: pong | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: hey ;) | 12:29 |
| siretart | huhu :) | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: wanted to know the status of xinelib 1.1.5 in gutsy | 12:29 |
| siretart | how are you doing? | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: well very nice :) | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | I hope you do so :) | 12:30 |
| siretart | Tonio_: xine-lib 1.1.6 is already in gutsy | 12:30 |
| siretart | since weeks | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libxine1&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: are you sure of this ? ;) | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: build problem maybe ? | 12:33 |
| siretart | Tonio_: as I already told you at UDS, the problem is that it is waiting for ffmpeg | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: ho, okay I forgot that, right ;) | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: let's wait together then :) | 12:35 |
| siretart | since you need something quick, you could apt-get source the current source (1.1.6-1ubuntu1, which is in gutsy), remove the ffmpeg build dependencies and comment out the '--with-external-ffmpeg' part and reupload | 12:35 |
| siretart | I'd prefer patches to fix ffmpeg in debian/experimental, though | 12:36 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: you know that pyqt4 seems to be broken again? | 01:26 |
| Riddell | can't say I do | 01:27 |
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| Hobbsee | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | apport-qt hwdb-client-kde kubuntu-desktop language-selector-qt python-qt4 software-properties-kde | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | The following packages will be upgraded: | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | python-sip4 | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: pyqt4 needs the build-deps updated for pysip4. assuming that doesnt break the universe. | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | (same thing as feisty, i expect) | 01:30 |
| Riddell | debdiffs accepted :) | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: heh. i dont know python, so have no real way of telling if it works or not | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | with just a rebuild | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | which is precisely why i havent done anything with it, so far | 01:34 |
| Riddell | actually pyqt4 needs synced from debian | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | even better | 01:36 |
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| allee | Riddell, Hobbsee, Tonio_ etc: starting tomorrow I'll be away for 10 days and I assume without any internet access. I'll enjoy it ;) | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | allee: have fun! | 02:18 |
| allee | Hobbsee: thx | 02:19 |
| Lure | allee: nice | 02:20 |
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| Hobbsee | Lure: how'd that MIR filing with opensync go? | 02:23 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: we should wait at least for 0.22 (or 0.30 to be released soon) first | 02:24 |
| Riddell | allee: you're down for merges of kipi-plugins and digikam, likely to do them before tomorrow or shall we steal them off you? | 02:24 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: 0.19 is of not much use | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: right. the ETA on that was? | 02:24 |
| Lure | Riddell: not sure if it is workthwhile to merge, but I can do them if needed | 02:25 |
| allee | Lure: my reason is slightly different. I'll enjoy it, because my family will not complain. If they would not complain ..., then my feelings would be different | 02:25 |
| Riddell | Lure: why not? | 02:25 |
| Lure | Riddell: 0.9.2 (released in june) will merge dk in dkimageplugins | 02:25 |
| Lure | oh, but debian already have beta1... | 02:26 |
| Lure | so it might make sense to do it already... | 02:26 |
| Lure | allee: ;-) - I still like completely off-line times ;-) | 02:27 |
| Riddell | allee: oh yes, kdebluetooth dbus, should we upload that? | 02:27 |
| jjesse | wow large updates today | 02:28 |
| allee | Riddell: there no release yet only svn | 02:29 |
| allee | Riddell: dgollub plan to merge to extragear soon. But there are some ugly bugs (maybe due to me using bluez 3.9 not 3.10.1 or even 3.11/12 | 02:30 |
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| allee | Riddell, Tonio_: fwiw: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/kdebluetooth-dbus-integration_debian.tar.gz contains the adapted debian dir I use together with an svn checkout. | 03:10 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: downloaded, will work on that next week ;) | 03:13 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: krita done, therefore koffice and co should be installable now | 03:41 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee: done in which way? | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: um, rebuild as it wasnt installable? | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | from -devel, hours ago? | 04:00 |
| Riddell | ok | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | i'm assuming there wasnt more that pitti said | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | er, didnt say | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: did you introduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/116771 with your feisty packages? i didnt see this in the gutsy ones | 04:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 116771 in kdepim "kontact can't be updated due to file conflict with knode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 04:11 |
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| nixternal | groovy | 06:46 |
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| === DaSkreech disco dnaces | ||
| nixternal | I have never seen anyone dnace b4 ;) | 07:00 |
| DaSkreech | Well I have dnace +3 :) | 07:02 |
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| Lure | Riddell: is anybody working on python-qt4 (it makes several packages uninstallable)? | 07:24 |
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| _StefanS_ | evenings | 10:55 |
| DaSkreech | Yo | 11:03 |
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| _StefanS_ | heyho DaSkreech | 11:11 |
| DaSkreech | what you heard? | 11:15 |
| _StefanS_ | DaSkreech: about what? | 11:15 |
| DaSkreech | never mind :) | 11:16 |
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| _StefanS_ | bah :P | 11:21 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 11:24 |
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