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_defconlol12:14
Ace2016_defcon: it is organised, its in kcontrol, can't get more organised than that12:14
RadiantFirekcontrol is a failure, this is true12:15
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RadiantFirebut I think system-settings is going upstream for kde 412:15
Ace2016_defcon: you'll be shocked to find its actually in the mouse section, yea who would have guessed that12:15
Ace2016 /sarcasm :P12:15
_defconAce2016, lol12:15
fdoving_defcon: kmenu -> system settings -> mouse -> select what you want.12:15
_defconid think it would be in filemanager settings12:15
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_defconthankyou12:15
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_defconfdoving, it is not in mouse settings12:16
_defconim here12:16
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_defconopen folders with 1 click etc12:17
fdoving_defcon: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse ?12:17
RadiantFireyes12:17
_defconnot there12:17
fdovingthen mouse.12:17
RadiantFirefdoving: yes it is12:17
Ace2016_defcon: it is there12:17
RadiantFirefdoving: keyboard & mouse -> mouse12:17
_defconi'll look again if not i'll post a screen12:17
RadiantFirefdoving: there is a radio button to select12:17
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_defconthankyou12:18
_defconnot quite used to the new iface yet12:18
_defconany good ways to optimize performance, start up apps etc12:19
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Ace2016_defcon: initng/nvidia drivers/stop services you don't need12:20
_defconok12:20
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Ace2016you could also make a custom kernel with all the modules that you use compiled into it, and then you can use a smaller initrd file which means the system starts a tiny bit faster, but if you add bootsplash and gfxgrub then it will transition smoother and with a smaller delay between selecting the kernel in grub and the splash showing12:23
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_defconcool12:24
_defconany good apps to run possible dangerous programs in a safe container?12:24
_defconor monitor apps activity12:25
_defconetc12:25
Ace2016_defcon: what kind of dangerous programs?12:25
Ace2016fakeroot?12:25
_defconwell i have this friend I dont trust completely, he programs and makes things, I just want to make sure he isnt screwing me12:25
_defconor already hacked me12:25
_defconlol12:25
Ace2016sandbox?12:26
_defconi'll check those out12:26
_defconthankyou12:26
hudsyi cant run mercury!!12:27
hudsyHELP PLZ12:27
david2_why do you need to run mercury?12:27
Ace2016mercury?12:28
hudsymsn12:28
Ace2016hudsy: well have you installed java?12:28
Ace2016hudsy: what version are you using now?12:28
hudsyim trying to install it12:29
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Ace2016hudsy: your trying to install java? from the repos right?12:29
hudsyyea12:29
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_defconAce2016, any way to run nmap/pcap utilities under a fake root shell12:30
_defconor protected service12:30
Ace2016no idea12:30
_defconid like to run some apps in a protected bash root shell12:30
Ace2016bye all12:30
nuu_defcon: chroot is what you're looking for12:31
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_defconok12:31
JiminyJhello12:31
_defconnuu thankyou12:31
JiminyJumm12:31
JiminyJim trying to install kubuntu12:31
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JiminyJbut i cant =\12:31
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JiminyJgot to stage 5 but it says my partition table is empty12:32
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JiminyJand i cant create a new 112:32
_defconnuu I can run files with chroot that are protected?12:32
nuuchroot merely creates a "jail", or a sandbox to execute your app12:32
_defconok12:32
_defconthats good12:33
JiminyJnuu?12:33
nuuof course that "jail" needs a (limited, obviously) /-like tree of directories12:33
nuui think there are some tutorials out there on how to use it12:33
nuu!chroot12:33
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box12:33
JiminyJnuu? :|12:33
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nuuyes ?12:33
JiminyJim trying to install kubuntu12:33
JiminyJbut on the 5th stage it says the partition table is empty12:34
JiminyJand it fails to create a new 112:34
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nuu5th stage being what ? setting up of the partitions on the disk ?12:34
JiminyJyes12:34
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nuuand fails how ?12:35
nuusaying what ?12:35
JiminyJthat it failed12:35
JiminyJ._.12:35
nuuhelpful indeed ;)12:35
JiminyJIt is not possible to create a new partition table12:35
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JiminyJit says "It is not possible to create a new partition table"12:36
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JiminyJumm nuu?12:38
nuuJiminyJ: sorry, no idea12:39
JiminyJ:\12:39
JiminyJi mean12:39
JiminyJin the /root/ too12:40
JiminyJshows nothing12:40
JiminyJno drives, nothing12:40
JiminyJi'm installing it on a VM btw12:40
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nuuwhat virtualization softwar ?12:40
JiminyJVirtualBox12:41
nuuchances are the virtual driver virtualbox uses to emulate a disk isnt recognized by the installer12:41
nuui'd google for it12:41
nuuor try with a different virtualization program12:41
TomasuAwayI'm having some trouble mounting an nfs share on a clean kubuntu install. It was working fine before I wiped my gentoo and installed kubuntu.12:41
TomasuAwaymount just hangs.12:42
nuuanyway, almost 1am and i've got work tomorrow12:42
timmayomg why are my screen savers not working!!12:42
nuugood night12:42
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adaptrzomg TIMMEH!12:42
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timmayHimalaahhh TIMMAY!12:42
adaptrc'mon everybody, let's beat up the cripple12:43
david2_retard12:43
adaptrno, he's a cripple, not a retard12:43
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david2_I think there was a episode of south park disputing that fact12:44
adaptroh, okay - it's not like I;ve seen them all...12:45
david2_ANd timmay didnt care one way or the other12:45
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timmaywhat does this have to do with my srceen saver?12:46
david2_Absolutely nothing12:46
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david2_to the cripple lol12:47
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TomasuAwayaah. Cool. fixed my problem. seems not having nfs-common makes mount hang instead of error out...12:48
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zblachis there an application in which I can test my microphone?12:49
zblach!microphone12:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:49
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alxjii made a new post with my problem: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3083553.012:49
TomasuAway"Amarok: [Loader]  Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?"  :(12:50
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zblachTomasuAway: killall amarokapp12:52
luckyonedoes anyone know how to install eclipse with out it installing gij and those packages?12:52
TomasuAwayyeah, It happens that the mysql server it was configured to use isnt up. so it just hangs..12:52
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TomasuAwayjust commented out the mysql stuff in the config and amarok sarted :)12:52
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TomasuAwayzblach: thanks though :)12:53
TomasuAwaythat mp3 stuff is annoying though :(12:54
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zblach*nods*12:54
zblachthere's a repo which provides amarok with mp3 support12:54
zblachcan't remember which one tho'12:54
crimsunluckyone: just install a jre (v1.5 or v1.6 - sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre, respectively, both in multiverse), then grab the eclipse runtime binary from an eclipse.org mirror and extract it into /usr/local12:56
crimsunI run 3.3RC1 with CDT 4.0M7 in that manner.12:56
TomasuAwayzblach: well, I got asked to install the mp3 packages, so I assume it'll work once libxine1-ffmpeg is installed12:56
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TomasuAwayadept is sure impressive though.12:57
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torjahola01:00
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hitmanWillyhowdy there, fellow carbon-based lifeforms01:02
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khirrhow can i do a shortcut for a utorrent.exe?01:02
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khirri have wine installed, and the progrm run okay, but i need a shortcut01:02
hitmanWillykhirr: where do you want it? desktop01:02
khirryes01:02
khirrdesktop01:02
hitmanWillykhirr: right click the desktop, new, link to application01:03
Tobsanmy sound does not work :(01:03
Tobsanwhere can i update/change drivers01:03
khirrdibe01:03
khirrdone01:03
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hitmanWillykhirr: in the path box input wine, then in arguments, put in the path to utorrent01:04
hitmanWillyTobsan: what model card?01:05
khirrcommand?01:05
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hitmanWillykhirr: what you usually run it with minus the wine, ie wine <put this in the arguments box>01:06
khirruhmm, comment box?01:06
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khirrit's in spanish01:06
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hitmanWillykhirr: the arguments box should be the one on the bottom01:07
hitmanWillykhirr: the path box is number 3 down01:07
hitmanWillykhirr: the first one is just what you want to name the link01:08
khirr3 donwn01:08
khirrnow?01:08
khirr:O01:08
khirrthisl oad....thank u01:08
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gundam_rx78nt1has anybody done a kubuntu linux-ha cluster? I would like to know where to start... google only talks about old versions with the 2.4 kernel.01:08
hitmanWillyok :) figured i was confusing you there for a minute01:09
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hitmanWillygundam_rx78nt1: not really familiar with that, but it should be pretty close01:10
hitmanWillygundam_rx78nt1: or, search for how-to with debian, that should be REALLY close01:11
gundam_rx78nt1well, I have a project assigned in school that I would like to do, it's to create a fail-over cluster running mySQL. It is to show that the mySQL servcie will still be available if one of the nodes in the cluster has gone down.01:12
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khirrThe FUSE technology used by ntfs-3g consists of two major parts: a library and a Linux kernel driver. The message means that you either have the faulty FUSE 2.6.2 release, or the library (FUSE package) is safe but the kernel driver is not. When you install or upgrade the FUSE package then it installs only the library, not the kernel driver. In other words, ntfs-3g and FUSE is safe but not your kernel.01:13
khirrwhat does it mean?01:13
hitmanWillygundam_rx78nt1: sorry, mysql stuff is a little over my head, not a whole lotta experience01:13
gundam_rx78nt1ok, thanks hitmanWilly.01:13
hitmanWillykhirr: what does what mean?01:13
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khirri mount ntfs-3g partition 4 hours ago..but now...i had to it again01:14
khirrrepeat it...i dunno why01:14
hitmanWillykhirr: did you reboot?01:14
khirrmaybe...i think yes01:14
khirrhow can i do for that mount automatilly01:15
hitmanWillykhirr: you need to add it to /etc/fstab01:15
hitmanWilly!fstab | khirr01:15
ubotukhirr: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:15
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khirrhow?01:15
khirri'm not good in englsih01:15
tinor use the Disks & Filesystems section in System Settings01:15
tinunder the Advanced tab01:15
purpleposeidonwhat's the command to get a list of symbols for a .so?01:16
khirruhmmm01:16
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hitmanWillykhirr: see the link from ubotu, or try in #kubuntu-es, the speak spanish01:16
hitmanWilly*they01:16
khirri've tried, but...is so hard can talk01:16
khirrno body answer01:17
hitmanWilly:)01:17
hitmanWillyyeah, figured that...01:17
gundam_rx78nt1khirr, cual es el problema?01:17
hitmanWillykhirr: anyway, take a look at the file with a text editor, its pretty easy to figure out...01:18
khirrque hace un momento cuando reinicie se desmonto mi unidad con ntfs-3g01:18
hitmanWillykhirr: if you've ever mounted anything from the cmd line at least01:18
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khirrits my first time01:18
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VSpikekhirr: you will need a line like this in /etc/fstab -- /dev/hda2 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 101:19
jordi_Hello, how do I do to download the source of a program (e.g. cat)01:19
cvill64-laptophas anybody tried to install i386 version on an amd64 X2 and have it fail a lot ?01:19
khirrgundam_rx78nt1 como hago eso01:20
VSpikekhirr: first part is what you want to mount, second part is where you want to mount it to01:20
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: are you using the -i386 or -generic kernel?01:20
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cvill64-laptopw/e is d/led with the kubuntu-desktop-i386 iso01:21
khirrgundam_rx78nt1 tengo esto /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 ntfs umask=0,nls=utf8,ro 0 0   como hago par qu cargue con ntfs-3g01:21
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: try the 686 version...ran it on my athalon for quite a while with no problems01:21
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: it installs the -generic kernel by default, its the one that links on the main page01:22
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timmayaawww man my windows key isn't working now01:22
cvill64-laptopkubuntu has a i686 version?01:23
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khirrgundam_rx78nt1 reiniciare para probar01:23
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: it has a generic pc version, which is set up for 586/686 processors as well as athalons running in 32 bit mode01:24
MinatakuOooh, the RX-78NT-1... that's one of my favorites01:24
cvill64-laptophmmm.... /me searches for this i686 iso01:24
VSpikekhirr: cambialo a esto -- /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 ntfs-3g defaults, locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 101:24
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: just follow the link off the main page, it'll take you to it01:25
xGrantxwhere does avant-window-navigator install to?01:25
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cvill64-laptopam I blind ... I'm only seeing amd64 and i386 isos linked to on the download page at kubuntu.org01:26
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: ok, never mind, been a while since i downloaded it, you've got the x86 version, right?01:26
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cvill64-laptopyes, the x86 is i386 iso01:27
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hitmanWillyused to be a few more versions...01:27
cvill64-laptopI thought so too, but guess not01:27
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: the i386 version does install the generic kernel by default, so it should work...01:27
cvill64-laptopshould be the key factor :P01:28
hitmanWillyyeah...01:28
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: what does it do, exactly?01:28
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cvill64-laptopits doing something weird, and I can't tell if its failing by trying to install grub to a /boot or during the copy process... hitmanWilly that'd be a great question if the installer actually errored out, I'd love to send debug code01:29
cvill64-laptopI've of course checked the media, checked my hard drives01:29
cvill64-laptopthe amd64 installed fine01:29
cvill64-laptopand I'm just doing /boot, /, /home, swap01:29
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cvill64-laptopso nothing complicated01:29
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: hmmm, you may try the alternate cd01:30
cvill64-laptopI don't see anything in the alternate cd desciption that would help sadly01:30
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: its a more traditional linux installer with a few more options01:31
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cvill64-laptopautomatic deployment, need less ram, etc if I remember correctly01:31
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: plus it runs in text mode so you can see any errors it spits01:31
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cvill64-laptopsuprised the devs didn't add a crash handler for the installer01:32
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: i think they did, but lock-ups don't call it sometimes, it only works when the installer KNOWS it crashed01:33
melkordoes anybody here have a favorite, 'lightweight' windows manager, maybe something faster than fluxbox?01:33
hitmanWillymelkor: uhhh, TWM?01:33
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cvill64-laptopflux is my favored :P01:33
hitmanWillymelkor: it really doesn't get much faster than flux...01:33
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khirrqueria levantar con ntfs-3g T_T01:34
khirrpara poder escribir01:34
cvill64-laptophitmanWilly: well its frozen and its crashed, two different times...very weird01:34
jackcan someone tell me why i cant open the systemmanagent of my monitor settings since i edited the xorg.conf for xinerama with radeon driver?01:34
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: did it drop out or just hang forever?01:34
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cvill64-laptopone time it just hung and froze and the other (new cd) it just crashed as in the window went bye bye w/o me telling it too01:35
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cvill64-laptopI'm wondering if it can't handle the /boot as it seems to get through most of the copying process01:36
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: did you put /boot as the first partition on the drive? that may be the issue...01:36
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melkoryeah fluxbox is nice I think I'm going to try this open box.01:36
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hitmanWillymelkor: most of the box WMs run about the same footprint01:36
cvill64-laptophitmanWilly: no, the /boot is the second partition, the first being a windows partition, and the amd64 iso was able to handle it, also all other distros so far have been able to handle it too, which is why I'm skeptical but I may just try it for th ehell of it01:37
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: i remember lilo having issues with that...i.e. the boot was too far back on the drive01:38
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cvill64-laptoplilo yes, but this is grub01:38
jackcan someone tell me why i cant open the systemmanagent of my monitor settings since i edited the xorg.conf for xinerama with radeon driver?01:38
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: with grub, you really don't need a /boot partition anyway01:39
cvill64-laptopits helpful to have one imho01:39
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: ok. i don't usually use it myself...but cool.01:40
hitmanWillydefinately onboard with the /home partition, tho :)01:40
cvill64-laptopyep, have that on a different hard drive01:41
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: me too, saved my bacon more than once01:41
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: is the win partition vista or xp?01:42
cvill64-laptopalso nice when testing out other distros to have a nice little test partition first drive and just mount the /home for w/e01:42
cvill64-laptopthe win partition is the winxp6401:42
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: ah, that may be the issue, try installing grub on the MBR of the second drive, and switch the bios to boot from it first01:43
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cvill64-laptopwait .... wah?01:43
khirrhow can i do with one commnd on console to mound automatilly  one ntfs partition to can write01:43
cvill64-laptopthat'd be silly :P01:43
cvill64-laptopit works the way I have it for several other distros including kubuntu amd6401:44
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: the 64 bit win bootloader may be interfering with the 32 bit grub...01:44
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cvill64-laptopthe win bootloader hasn't been there for quite awhile01:44
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: ah, ok :)01:45
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cvill64-laptop;)01:45
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: sorry, defaulting to newbie mode again...01:45
cvill64-laptopno problem, its what I do when helping others also01:45
cvill64-laptopI've had to use that suggestion before anyways01:45
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cvill64-laptopwell, giving it to others01:46
cvill64-laptopluckily never having to use it :P01:46
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nzkWhy is ubuntu so mind-numbingly and god-awfully slow?01:46
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nzkI am running on a 2 year old new-at-the-time computer at 3.46ghz01:46
cvill64-laptopcoz its not compiled for your optimized arch01:46
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: how comfortable are you installing grub manually? you may try that and just skip over the grub installer in kubuntu01:46
nzkXchat, Terminal, Gedit, and Rhythmbox01:46
nzk8.38 load average01:46
nzkThe song wont even PLAY01:46
cvill64-laptopeh, I could do that, but then I'd just install gentoo again :P01:46
nzki386 too01:47
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cvill64-laptopnzk: that load average is small.....do you have support installed to play the file type ?01:47
Neil-is gentoo similar to ubuntu?01:47
cvill64-laptopI normally run gentoo01:47
cvill64-laptopon desktop01:47
cvill64-laptopNO NO NO01:47
cvill64-laptoplmao01:47
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cvill64-laptopnein01:47
nzkcvill64-laptop, I mean that the computer is so slow, my mouse doesn't even move in real time, and if my song isn't horribly skipping its not even playing01:47
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pricechildHey I've been trying out kubuntu.... and was keeping xchat2. However colours don't appear in the channel list on the left when soemone sends a message etc. Does anyone else get this/know how to fix it?01:48
nzk8.38 load average is high enough to melt a processor, its not 'small'01:48
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nzkpricechild, #xchat01:48
cvill64-laptopNeil-: to answer the question, its not even remotely similar imho01:48
pricechildnzk, they pushed me to ask in #kde :P01:48
Neil-just curious :)01:48
cvill64-laptopoh, I thought you meant processor usage nzk, apologizes01:49
Tired_Hi.  I just got a gamepad, and I want to test it out, but I can't seem to find a game in the repos that uses one...any ideas?01:49
nzkcvill64-laptop, What can I do about this?01:49
hitmanWillyTired_: frozen bubble has the option01:49
nzkSome days its fine, and video plays in real time (if i am lucky)01:49
Tired_Sweet, thanks  :)01:49
TobsanhitmanWilly: i have a Intel 82801G Sound Card, but my drivers are completely lost01:49
nzkLike today its not even close to fine01:49
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cvill64-laptopgood question nzk, you could just have a simple heat problem, or it could be a failing hard drive, or your mobo is screwed up, or something during the install process didn't quite get it...that's a bit of a toughy to figure out01:50
hitmanWillynzk: run top to see what's running01:50
crimsunTobsan: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.01:50
Tobsanoh01:50
cvill64-laptopI just may try that hitmanWilly with manually install grub01:50
nzkhitmanWilly, I do, top shows nothing out of the ordinary01:50
nzktop itself takes up like 20% of the cpu01:51
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adaptrand you call that "nothing out of the ordinary" ???01:51
nzkThats why I dont run top01:51
nzkor system monitor01:51
hitmanWillynzk: wtf? that should NOT be happening...01:51
nzkthey use up too much resources to be useful01:51
hitmanWillynzk: you may have a bad proc there...01:51
Tired_YAY!  It works gorgeously, except every time I go left, it opens my K-menu.01:52
nzk 8287 nzk    15   0  2316 1096  804 R    4  0.2   0:00.05 top01:52
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hitmanWillyTired_: try disabling the gesture in kcontrol01:52
nzkI hate this computer so much, it works fine sometimes but bad othertimes. Its basically a laptop filled solid with dust.01:53
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hitmanWillynzk: full of dust? the proc is probably scaling itself down due to heat...01:53
nzkI exaggerate01:54
nzkI clean it every few weeks01:54
cvill64-laptophmm...did the packagers forget to replace the "Help for GRUB device selection goes here" in the installer? :P01:54
nzkits clean now actually01:54
Tired_"the gesture"?01:54
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nzkLike windows, when I bring them up from minimize, take something like 7 seconds to render01:54
cvill64-laptopyep, hardware problem01:54
nzk:|01:54
Tobsancrimsun: how do i run the script?01:54
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hitmanWillyTired_: its probably reading the left as some kind of keyboard/mouse gesture01:55
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whitepyrois there a way to allow dual monitor support which only loads anything opengl (games) on 1 screen and not both??01:55
crimsunTobsan: save it to the Desktop, then in a Konsole:  bash alsa-info.sh01:55
Tired_oh. i probably should disable mouse gestures totally, since I don't use them01:55
Tobsanaha01:55
crimsunTobsan: (or you may need to use:  bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh  )01:55
hitmanWillyTired_: there ya go :)01:56
Tobsanhttp://pastebin.ca/50837801:56
cvill64-laptopwhitepyro: you using ati or nvidia ?01:56
whitepyrocvill64-laptop: Ati radeon 9700 Pro01:56
Tired_And now it works completely perfectly...thanks a ton.  :D01:56
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Tired_I'm gonna go blow up some bubbles.01:56
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nzkcvill64-laptop, if I try to bring it to dell, they will be like "omgz u uzed linsux on urz computerz datz y itz sloww"01:57
cvill64-laptopoh geez, sorry, I don't know ati xorg stuff very well01:57
cvill64-laptopnzk: legally they can't say that01:57
hitmanWillyTobsan: you may need to modprobe the driver01:57
Tobsancrimsun: i have to go to bed now (is't 2 AM here) but if you see a solution to my problem, please PM me01:57
cvill64-laptopand you can just start windows to show them01:57
Tobsangoodnight01:57
nzkI wiped windows off the drive.01:57
whitepyrocvill64-laptop: Thanks any how.. atleast I got bigdesktop working :P01:58
crimsunTobsan: what's the output from lsmod|grep ^snd  ?01:58
cvill64-laptopthat's pretty good for ati01:58
cvill64-laptopI hear too many horror stories about ati01:58
hitmanWillyati just blows...at least right now...01:58
nzkcvill64-laptop, anyway, they have done that before, refused service because of my OS01:58
cvill64-laptop?01:58
cvill64-laptopweird, I've gotten my acer fixed with linux of it01:58
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cvill64-laptopbut then again, not a dell01:59
hitmanWillynzk: that may not be the case anymore, since they are now shipping the very distro you are running01:59
nzkBesides, its out of warrantee01:59
nzkhitmanWilly, I know, but the slaves at tech support dont know that01:59
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whitepyroMan i hate getting echo when playing my dvd.. Theres..... got to be a setting somewhere....02:00
nzkhitmanWilly, I use Ubuntu not Kubuntu02:00
hitmanWillynzk: you may try and see if there's any computer shops around that can help, since its out of warranty you're gonna have to pay for it anyway02:00
hitmanWillynzk: same thing02:00
nzkBah, I don't feel like wasting money. I'll just get a new computer.02:01
cvill64-laptopdamnit...this time got to 63%, saying less than a minute to go and it crashed, how does the installer not know its crashing02:01
nzkHopefully C2D Mac Minis will be out after WWDC or around there02:01
hitmanWillynzk: everything except the deafult desktop is identical between ubuntu/kubuntu02:01
nzkSo I can get one02:01
whitepyroI like ubuntu's interface better then my kubuntu but i can't get esddsp to work without skipping and in kubuntu atleast I can adjust buffer with arts ;|02:01
cvill64-laptopI hate gnome, so I'm trying out kubuntu02:01
cvill64-laptopand I'd say a lot is different hitmanWilly, especially with what programs you get defaulted too02:02
whitepyroKDE seems bloated atleast with its menus.... So i'm writing a bash script to remove them all if i need to format for anything LOL02:02
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop & apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop & apt-get autoremove...you have now turned an ubuntu desktop into a kubuntu desktop :)02:03
cvill64-laptopinteresting, but that's a lot of packages to remove and install02:03
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: yup, just trying to demonstrate that the core architectures are identical :)02:04
cvill64-laptopwhitepyro: that's because kde has a global menu which gnome does not02:04
cvill64-laptopoh, yesthe core is the same02:04
nzkIf i run kill -9 102:04
nzkwhat will happen02:04
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hitmanWillykubuntu is just stock ubuntu minus gnome plus kde02:04
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whitepyronzk probably better to do ps aux then do killall [Name] 02:05
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hitmanWillynzk: nothing good02:05
hitmanWillynzk: that would kill init02:06
flamiUhm i somehow made it do add a 2nd pannel on top of the screen , and i have no idea how to get rid of it02:06
whitepyroflami: Right click kicker bar and02:06
cWolfedoes xchat in k/ubuntu have built in ipv6 support?02:06
whitepyroflami: unlock panels and then right click panel and then go to panels and remove02:07
hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: what's really fun is just installing the ubuntu base system (no X, etc) and building up gentoo style02:07
flamiremove pannels is greyed out02:07
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hitmanWillycvill64-laptop: you can even use apt-build if you want to compile everything02:07
whitepyroflami: So you have one on top and one on bottom now?02:08
flamii have the normal one on the bottom02:08
oldwestone know what konsole command to see what is used and space left on hdrive02:08
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whitepyroMan i love watching harry potter on 2nd screen ROFL (yes harry potter)02:08
hitmanWillyharry pothead?02:08
flamiand somehow i added a 2nd one on top that aparently gets some options of a software i start02:08
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whitepyrosure sure02:09
K-RyanI think he added an external taskbar02:09
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Admiral_Chicago!offtopic02:09
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:09
xGrantxugh02:10
flamiseems to be a menu extension?02:10
Jack333can i run another linux os within ubuntu?02:10
xGrantxI almost have avant window navigator working....02:10
Admiral_ChicagoJack333: yes with VMs02:10
oldwestwhat is konsole command to see space used and and unsed on hard drive?02:10
xGrantxit comes up then crashes02:10
Admiral_Chicago!VM02:10
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications02:10
flamiyou can make dual boots, i recommend gentoo if you want a shock :P02:10
K-RyanWhat does a Kasbar do?02:10
Jack333!Kqemu02:10
ubotukqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm8602:10
Jack333!qemu02:10
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo02:10
Admiral_ChicagoJack333: /msg ubotu :)02:10
Jack333ah okay :P02:10
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xGrantxoh, haha02:14
xGrantxthe navigator bar is behind the taskbar....02:14
dkkongHow can I get my scanner working if xsane doesn't detect it even if ran under root?02:14
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oldwestanyone know command to used or unused pace left on hdrive?02:14
oldwestspace02:15
xGrantxhow do you move the avant bar?02:15
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K-Ryanoldwest: I'm looking around to find where you can see it, hold on.02:18
oldwestk-ryan thx02:18
K-RyanIf you have Gparted you can open that up and look02:18
oldwestfound comm the other day but didn't write it down02:19
oldwestgparted in synatics?02:19
K-RyanYeah but if you don't have it don't bother02:19
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oldwesty?02:20
sayersUhm. My keyboard just stopped working in Kubuntu.02:20
K-RyanYou can open / then right click home then properties.02:20
oldwestk - great thx bunch02:20
K-RyanIt will say how much is used out of how much is available.02:20
K-RyanNo problem02:20
oldwestsweet02:20
K-Ryansayers: Then how did you type that? o.O02:20
sayersI know how to use Linux with out a desktop environment02:20
oldwesttrick question huh?02:20
K-RyanI didn't know that's what you were doing.02:21
sayersanyway how do I fix this?02:21
K-RyanI'm not sure myself02:21
K-Ryan!keyboard02:21
ubotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts02:21
K-RyanNope...02:21
sayersit can't be that hard to fix :s02:22
K-RyanWhat changes have you made recently?02:23
sayersno clue it just stopped02:24
K-RyanHave you tried it again to see if it works now?02:24
sayersyes02:24
sayersFailsafe works02:24
K-RyanStrange02:24
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watcherhey people, complete noob here, anyone got any basic advice for someone using kubuntu??02:26
K-RyanRight click everything.02:27
watcherlol, yeah i been doing that alot, do you know where i could get some drivers for a nvidia 7950gt xxx grafix card, tried the one from nvidia but it didnt seem to work02:28
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sayershelo02:29
K-RyanYeah it doesn't really work, screwed someone up actually.02:29
K-Ryansayers: Don't be afraid to ask again every once in a while02:29
K-Ryanwatcher: You know about Adept right?02:29
sayerswell how am I susposed to use my computer without my Desktop Enviornment?02:29
watchererrr...nope not really, like a said, complete noob :-(02:30
K-RyanNo I know it's a problem, but I don't know how to fix it, so you have to rely on someone else.02:30
K-Ryanwatcher: Okay then, Adept Manager is where you install packages from the repositories. Since you don't know about Adept, I'm assuming you never enabled the extra repositories.02:30
watcherim guessing not too :-p02:31
K-RyanAnyway, open the KDE Menu > System > Adept Manager02:31
watcherrigh got that up02:32
K-RyanTop left click Adept > Manage Repositories02:32
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watcheryup02:32
K-RyanCheck all the boxes.02:32
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watcherwould it just be easier to do a full upgrade?02:34
K-RyanHmm?02:34
K-RyanTo get the drivers? That wouldn't get you the drivers02:34
K-RyanBut you're not on Feisty?02:34
watcherahh k then, nope02:35
K-RyanAh, then this isn't going to do it02:35
K-RyanHold on02:35
K-Ryan!nvidia02:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:35
watchersorry for being a completely useless noob here, but thanks for the help, its really appreciated02:35
K-RyanIt's okay, we were all that way once.02:36
K-RyanOkay, when you clicked manage repos, were you able to check the boxes?02:36
K-RyanOr did it open up a text-like box?02:36
watchergot the text like box, said i needed security updates so i got them, and im reading up on the page you sent me now02:37
K-RyanOh I opened it so I could guide you through it =P02:37
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K-RyanBut in that text box you have to find the lines that are commented out(have a # at the beginning of the line) and remove the #02:38
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K-RyanI think you select the line and click enable to do it.02:38
Search4LancerI just downloaded the secure-delete package, but can't find any info as to the commands to use (secure-delete isn't one of them) to use it02:38
watcherlol, its cool cheers, ill try and do it myself and if i hit a dead end ill come back if thats ok, atm i think i just need to be pointed in the general direction then learn for myself, probably the best way really02:38
K-Ryan!secure-delete02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about secure-delete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
K-RyanHmmph02:38
xGrantxhow can gset-kiba depend on kiba-dock and kiba-dock depend on gset-kiba?02:39
K-Ryanwatcher: Except if you screw up that text-like area, Adept won't start =P02:39
K-Ryanwatcher: So if you're not sure of something, ask02:39
_defconi got a problem, for some reason when I switched from ubuntu over to kubuntu "gnome"-"kde" xchat channel list and query's do not light up when there is activity02:40
_defconbut in gnome it does02:40
watcherwill do cheers, ill follow the instructions from the page you gave me so i should be ok cheers02:40
K-Ryancheers ;)02:40
_defconwas something changed in xchat when I switched over?02:40
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K-RyanThere are more people here than in the windows room =D02:40
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wolferineK-Ryan, we arent suprised :)02:41
K-RyanI love it02:42
K-RyanI really do02:42
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wolferineyeah, it grows on ya, thats fo sure02:42
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xGrantxhow is it possible that two debian packages depend on each other to install?02:42
hitmanWillythat's cuz windows doesn't ship with a Microsoft approved irc client :)02:42
wolferinexGrantx, possible?02:42
K-RyanHaha02:42
wolferinelol @ hitmanWilly02:42
K-RyanWell if you need the other to install, you can't really install either then can you?02:43
xGrantxwhat?02:43
xGrantxright02:43
syarifhi guy's02:43
xGrantxso it makes no sense02:43
wolferinexGrantx, are you a programmer?02:43
whitepyroIs there any better alternatives to gaim and konversation for IRC? :D02:43
tinthat shouldn't happen, but you can force an install if you need to02:43
xGrantxwolferine, yea I am02:43
beataI'm having a network issue with Feisty on a laptop with a primary ppp connection and an ethernet port. When the ethernet cable is plugged in, everything is fine. When the cable is unplugged, konqueror won't connect to any internet site unless I disable the cache.02:43
wolferinewhitepyro, xchat02:43
AloneahitmanWilly: irc is a wonderful thing then if Microsoft hasn't got its paws on it.02:43
wolferinexGrantx, well think about it this way02:43
tinwhitepyro: if you can handle a console app, try irssi02:43
hitmanWilly"you have typed a message in irc and are attempting to send it over the network, Cancel or Allow?"02:43
tinthere's also ksirc, kvirc, lostirc, xchat, kopete can do irc02:44
wolferinexGrantx, there is alot smaller "packages" because only the code required to run that package is with it, nothing else.  Code reuse02:44
Zeelothiellooo02:44
AloneahitmanWilly: hehe. "You are coming to a sad realisation, Cancel or Allow?"02:45
beataI'm using a cellular modem on ttyUSB0/ppp0 as my primary connection.02:45
xGrantxwolferine, but two packages can't depend on each other, although it seems the ones I have do02:45
whitepyrothx02:45
K-RyanAlonea: Hahaha02:45
wolferineyou install packages for other packages becaause everything is dependant on necessary packages, and since all are realdily available, it just makes sense to not "jam pack" each package with the same thing alot of other packages already have02:45
beataOh and I can get konqueror to work with cache enabled if I rmmod the ethernet driver.02:45
wolferinexGrantx, is it giving you an issue, or are you just pointing this out for everyone?02:46
xGrantxwolferine, issue02:46
wolferineah02:46
wolferinewhich packages?02:46
xGrantxI can't install kiba-dock02:46
AloneaK-Ryan: I love the Mac commercials. They crack me up. I was a beta tester for vista and they are not over exaggerating on how crazy it is.02:46
wolferinebecause, whats the dependency?02:46
xGrantxbecause it depends on gset-kiba and kiba-plugins02:47
AloneaK-Ryan: though Vista does have some good points and I was impressed with some of its deatures.02:47
K-RyanAlonea: I love the new hardware one where he gets the webcam taped to his head....02:47
xGrantxbut both of those depend on kiba-dock02:47
wolferinefeisty?02:47
xGrantxno edgy02:47
beataEr, what is a kiba?02:47
AloneaK-Ryan: ^___^02:47
K-Ryan"Yeah we're done here..."02:48
beataWebcam one?02:48
K-RyanAye02:48
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K-RyanThat was the last line when the PC walked away02:48
xGrantxugh.........02:48
wolferinexGrantx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26864502:48
wolferinemac dock for linux?02:49
xGrantxyea02:49
wolferinelooks cool02:49
wolferinewatching a google video02:49
wolferinetalk to #ubuntu-effects02:49
wolferinemaybe they can offer more assistance02:50
xGrantxavant was giving me trouble so I decided to try this one02:50
dkkongIs there any way to run a windows driver through wine?02:50
wolferinewell, looks like ppl have got it to work02:51
wolferinemight take some time/effort on your part to see the end....02:51
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xGrantxwell what do you know, kiba-dock just installed itself02:53
wolferinenice02:53
xGrantxit's working too02:53
wolferine:)02:53
wolferinemaybe ill try too02:53
wolferinehehe02:53
beataMuh.02:53
xGrantxha, you can whip icons all over the place02:54
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wolferinewhat source are you using?02:54
wolferineSoS?02:54
wolferinebbiab02:54
xGrantxeh02:55
xGrantxI found the debian packages just doing a google search02:55
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beataThere seems not to be it in Feisty.02:55
beataOh, third-party?02:56
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pisqis it easy to change out a hard drive in a laptop03:03
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navetshey how do i make things automatically start in kubuntu03:03
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navetspisq: yes just make sure its compatiable03:04
kane_is it possible to have real transperency on the kicker?03:04
whitepyroHey do you think with the current state of things (user ability and ease of use that at some point more developers (possibly games :P) will start to support linux in a more readyable fashion? Or that wine will get good enough to run the newest Direct-X? :D03:04
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Zeelotnot happenin03:05
kane_whitepyro: the reason folks dont develop many games for linux is not the lack of use, its the lack of users who dont also run windows.03:06
pisqIs it just as easy to install Ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop as on a desk model PC?03:06
thefirstdudesure03:06
kane_pisq: just as easy to install, if it supports the wireless and bluetooth and tablet and that sort of thing is another story.03:06
thefirstdudeI have 7.04 running on a dell03:06
thefirstdudelaptop03:06
pisqok, thank you both.03:07
whitepyroI left windows because of the stupid "you have to activate by phone" crap. I'm sick of calling them LOL.03:07
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kane_yeah i havent used windows at home for about 6 years.03:08
dkkong_Is there any way to make Kooka see my scanner? It isn't detecting it03:08
pisqk bye03:08
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whitepyroalright time to see if theres a lamp package :D03:09
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navetswhere is my autostart folder03:10
Ash-FoxHm, is there going to be a restricted-manager equivalent in the next kubuntu release?03:10
K-RyanYou've got a good 4 months 'til then =P03:11
whitepyrohaha03:11
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who_hello all03:14
K-RyanHi there03:14
who_i have somewhat of a problem03:14
K-RyanShoot03:14
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beataYap.03:15
who_i am kindof a newbie to linux and i am looking for a printer that will be compatible with ubuntu03:15
who_i just got off the phone with a sales rep at HP and he said a compatible printer would be like 1000 dollars and i think that he is mistaken03:16
K-Ryancompatible printer with Kubuntu?03:17
K-Ryan1000? Nah03:17
who_i was hoping someone would be able to advise me on what kind of printer to buy03:17
who_yea he said 1000 bucks03:17
cWolfelol, my hp 930c was $50 and it worked great03:17
K-RyanWell I've got a Canon S330 and mind you Kubuntu didn't have the S330 driver, but the S300 driver does the trick.03:17
who_plug n play???03:17
cWolfewho_ dell has a bunch of postscript printers that they say are compatible03:18
K-RyanAnd all I had to do was pick my printer from the driver list thing.03:18
who_cool03:18
cWolfejust search dells site with a term like "postscript"03:18
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who_thx03:19
beataDell's printers, at least the one's I've seen, vaguely remind me of Lexmark.03:20
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eriefisherhp,epson.brother-----postscript is raw03:24
eriefisherlexmarks are paper weights03:25
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Zeelothello! why is it that when I am playing music on XMMS the sound from any other app is turned off?03:26
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Zeelotactually just pidgin...I think03:27
K-RyanI'm pretty sure that's the whole "Only one program can use sound at a time" thing03:27
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Zeelotwhy is that?03:29
K-RyanSomething with certain sound cards.03:29
Zeelotbut I can watch videos with kaffeine and play music on xmms at onc03:29
Zeelotonce*03:29
K-RyanThat pidgin program may need to be the only program using sound.03:30
Zeelotaha03:30
K-RyanI get that when using Wine, but like now I can use Amarok + other stuff03:30
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Zeelotno fix?03:30
K-RyanThat I'm aware of03:30
Zeelotalrigh03:30
Zeelot+t03:30
K-RyanGranted I may be wrong, but it sounds like that.03:30
K-Ryanno pun intended =P03:30
Zeelotlol03:30
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klobsteris there a nice way to kill hung programs?03:32
Zeelotthey should already be dead if you tied the knot right o_o03:33
Zeelotharrr03:33
K-RyanHaha03:33
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whitepyrohow when i try and run kate through console... or some other programs it prints 2 errors then loads... Is there a way to track down what this error is to make it stop printing? :D03:35
K-RyanI think that's just the way it is03:35
K-RyanI get that too03:35
whitepyroX error : baddevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16903:35
K-RyanYeah03:35
whitepyroya03:35
whitepyrowas just courious03:35
whitepyrolol03:35
whitepyrothought maybe xfree or x.org was giving me errors03:36
whitepyro:D03:36
bsundsrudthats because of the wacom tablet in your xorg.conf file that ubuntu likes to assume you have03:36
K-RyanDunno, but I have the exact same thing.03:36
klobsterthat's normal you are just seeing it's standard messages03:36
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whitepyroahh ok.. Just making sure ;D03:36
K-RyanIf it bothers you so much when opening kate03:36
K-Ryansudo nano03:36
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K-Ryan=)03:36
bsundsrudi did a bash alias to redirect all that to /dev/null03:36
whitepyronah i prefer using kate over nano :D03:36
K-RyanSo did I but now I like nano.03:37
whitepyroi like gedit too but thats ubuntu and not kubuntu :D03:37
K-RyanI actually wanted something to type/do yesterday just so I could play around with nano.03:37
bsundsrudalias kate='kate $@ 2>/dev/null'03:37
bsundsrudthe $@ is so you can still pass it any number of arguments and kate will interpret them03:38
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whitepyroI wish i could find a good text editor though.. I really miss my topstyle pro :D03:40
bsundsrudemacs!03:40
bsundsrudhaha03:40
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morallessHow do i move /home to to a freshly formatted drive, and how do i mount it?03:40
K-Ryanmount <partition path>03:41
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K-Ryanmoving it I think should be as simple as a copy and paste03:41
K-Ryan"think"03:41
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bsundsrudthat SHOULD work.03:41
bsundsrudhehe03:41
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morallessHow do i set a mountpoint for it?03:43
marke1can anyone here help with video performance?03:43
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K-RyanDo you have the drivers for your video card?03:43
bsundsrudafter installing the nvidia drivers, I can't access virtual terminals (Ctrl+F1-F6) anymore, because they're all garbled.  is there a kernel param (vga=?) or something i can do to fix this?03:43
marke1i have nvidia geforce2 - loaded edgy - using nvidia-glx03:44
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K-RyanHmm03:44
K-RyanStrange, I have that on Feisty and my stuff works fine03:45
K-RyanStick around I'm sure someone can help03:45
marke1i have video refresh issues - DVDs are gittery - 256MB RAM - 32MB vid RAM - P3 1GHz - decent disk drive - DVD in 32-bit mode (hdparm)03:46
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marke1anybody have tips on how to speed up nvidia video?03:46
morallessHow do i set a mountpoint for a new drive/edit /etc/fstab?03:47
marke1funny, because I watched one DVD just fine - the reloaded edgy and now it's gittery - default install - nothing special added03:47
K-Ryanmoralless: Open up KDE Menu > System > KInforCenter03:47
zblachhi all. i've a bit of weirdness. i can't record sound from my microphone, it just seems to pipe input back through the speakers03:47
K-Ryanmoralless: Once there goto the partitions tab03:48
K-RyanIs it listed there?03:48
zblachheh. got it03:48
K-RyanAnything else zblach?03:48
morallessK-Ryan: can't find it in there03:48
zblachstill a nagging issue with kaddprinterwizard03:48
K-Ryanmoralless: Partitions is on the left03:49
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morallessi mean the program03:49
K-RyanKInfoCenter is in KDE Menu > System03:49
K-Ryan6th from the bottom03:49
morallessK-Ryan: found it, i had missed it, i'm using kickofff03:50
zblachit takes forever and a day to load, or kills kcontrol/system settings03:50
K-RyanStrange zblach03:50
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K-Ryanmoralless: Under partitions, is it listed?03:50
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zblachit didn't seem right03:50
morallessK-Ryan: no it isn't03:50
marke1brb03:51
K-RyanThen I'm not sure what to do, sorry03:51
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morallessK-Ryan: thanks for at least pointing me in the right direction03:51
K-RyanI try03:52
zblachi take back what i said about the microphone. i'm still having issues03:52
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rubyatmorallis: a /home partition s/b set up in the install kubuntu phase....much easier than doing it later03:52
morallessrubyat: i have just gotten the drive, reinstalitation isn't an optiton anymore03:53
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morallessintelikey: then tell me how.03:54
intelikeymoralless you wanting to add the new drive as part of the system ?03:54
morallessyes, i want to mount it as /home03:54
intelikeytell me what you've got   and what you want to do with it03:54
morallessa maxtor 80GB drive, freshly formatted to ext3, and i want to set it to mount as /home, and move my current /home's data to it.03:55
hitmanWillymoralless: that shouldn't be too difficult03:55
intelikeynothing to it...03:56
rubyatyou will need to use a partition tool like qparted then03:56
morallessi've got it03:56
hitmanWillyrubyat: no he won't, its already formatted03:56
intelikeymoralless pastebin the output of    sudo fdisk -l   please and we'll tell ya how to do thta03:56
intelikeythat03:56
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intelikeyrubyat ?   i don't think so...03:57
morallessDisk /dev/hda: 20.4 GB, 20491075584 bytes03:57
moralless255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2491 cylinders03:57
morallessUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes03:57
hitmanWillyrubyat: seperate drive03:57
moralless   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System03:57
intelikeywow wow03:57
moralless/dev/hda1   *           1        2382    19133383+  83  Linux03:57
moralless/dev/hda2            2383        2491      875542+   5  Extended03:57
moralless/dev/hda5            2383        2491      875511   82  Linux swap / Solaris03:57
morallessDisk /dev/hdc: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes03:57
moralless255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders03:57
morallessUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes03:57
intelikeythis is not pastebin.03:57
moralless   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System03:57
moralless/dev/hdc1               1        9964    80035798+  83  Linux03:57
morallessyeah03:57
hitmanWillymoralless: ok, that's good, that's good03:57
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intelikeymoralless sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /media03:58
rubyatsorry...I thought he wanted to make a /home on the same drive03:58
morallessit mounted03:58
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hitmanWillyrubyat: honest mistake...:) that's the usual issue03:59
intelikeymoralless open konqueror     make sure that 'show hidden files' is ticked in it's menu03:59
morallessdoes dolphin? work?03:59
surgyhi03:59
surgyheya hitman04:00
intelikeymoralless ummm yeah....   are you the only user ?04:00
intelikeymoralless i mean are there other user accounts or no ?04:00
hitmanWillyhowdy fellow carbon-based lifeform04:00
morallessno other user accounts04:00
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intelikeymoralless ok lets do it this way       in the konsole: sudo cp -R /home/* /media04:01
klobsteranyone know why my .asoundrc file locks up my CA0106 (audigy ls) sound card?04:01
surgyactually im based off of non carbons :) <<< from the planet vagina04:01
hitmanWillyintelikey: he could always boot up into recovery to edit fstab and wipe /home04:01
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intelikeyhitmanWilly not needed.  but yeah04:02
morallessintelikey: it's copying...it's got a few gigs to copy04:02
intelikeymoralless ok when it finishes     sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami` /media04:03
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morallessintelikey: ok04:04
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intelikeymoralless    grep /dev/hdc /etc/fstab         (it should return nothing)04:05
klobsterhow do i start or stop a /etc file?04:05
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morallessintelikey: it's still copying04:05
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intelikeyok moralless tell me when you catch up.04:05
intelikeyklobster startup scripts ?04:06
flakeI had a weird error, I left my feisty on all night, tried to pull up a couple of items and gave me KDEinit could not open application, like the firefox webbrowser or the terminal utility04:06
morallessintelikey: ok, it's a older computer so....04:06
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flakeI installed an update and relogged in, it works now04:06
klobsterintelikey: yes .asoundrc04:06
klobsterwell asound.conf04:06
flakewhere is the system log?04:07
intelikeyklobster you don't.   that's a runtime configuration file04:07
intelikeyflake /var/log/*04:07
flakety04:07
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klobsterintelikey: will it run no matter th name? should I move it elsewher before reboot?04:07
neoncodeDoes anyone know how to read the tempriature of a Core 2 Duo? In Vista I can use a program to read the tempritures of the individual cores. Anyone got an idea of how to do the same thing in Linux?04:07
flakeI did install a bunch of crap though and removed a couple of others, might have affected it04:08
morallessintelikey: i ran the grep command in another tab, and it did as you said04:08
intelikeyklobster it doesn't  "run"   a program reads it when it starts04:08
klobsterintelikey: so a name change should do it, no?  asound.conf >> old.asound.conf?04:08
intelikeymoralless ok      echo '/dev/hdc1 /home ext3 defaults 0 0 ' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab04:09
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intelikeyklobster yes if you don't want it read then changing the name will stop it.04:10
klobsterintelikey: and then a reboot?  really?04:10
intelikeyklobster no04:10
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intelikeyklobster you could but you probably want to free up the space on your root partition first.04:10
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intelikeywait sorry04:11
klobster??04:11
intelikeyklobster yes   name mismatch04:11
intelikeyklobster thought that moralless asked that.... my bad.04:11
klobsterthat's alright.  ok I'm going down...04:12
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intelikeyklobster yes a reboot will then affect the changes04:12
nzkHow can I get ubuntu to be faster?04:12
morallessintelikey: it echoed to the console04:12
intelikeymoralless yes tee does that    it also wrote to the /etc/fstab file04:12
intelikeymoralless    grep /dev/hdc /etc/fstab         (it should return the line you just entered within the quotes '')04:13
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morallessintelikey: returned nothing.04:14
intelikeynzk depends on what you mean.    but generally triming ship helps a little.04:14
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nzkintelikey, what do you mean04:14
intelikeymoralless ok... you did copy and paste this whole command in......                                                                                           echo '/dev/hdc1 /home ext3 defaults 0 0 ' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab04:15
intelikeynzk not running things that you don't use/need   turning off eye-candy junk.   things like that.04:16
morallessintelikey: yeah, i guess it didn't go through, because i just ran it again, then greped it, and it returned results04:16
nzkHow do I know if I need something or not04:16
intelikeymoralless use the up arrow to see what the actual command you ran before was and compair      i'm thinking typo04:17
intelikeynzk trial and error ?04:17
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morallessintelikey: it was a typo04:18
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intelikeymoralless yeah  "yeah, i guess it didn't go through,"  <<< there is extremely little chance of that... :)04:19
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khirri've installed apache...but where is my www folder?04:20
morallessintelikey: i know, i used to use Red Hat a few years back (i don't remember how to do any though)04:20
kane_khirr: /var/www/04:20
khirrcan i wite there without sudo mode?04:20
klobsterok that restored sound, now to figure out why it broke it...04:20
intelikeymoralless so was it in the last file name ?    if so you should delete the   "ftsab"  you just created by mistake   :)04:20
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morallessintelikey: deleted, and it's still copying04:21
kane_khirr: no04:22
kane_its owned by www04:22
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intelikeymoralless ok.      let me ask you this question, while we wait.  "do you know anything about using a 'console' (tty) or is that totally foreign to you?"04:22
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kane_khirr: you can add yourself to the www-date group though04:23
hitmanWillyintelikey: good question, there...04:23
kane_er data04:23
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morallessintelikey: i know a little bit, not enough to really do much though04:23
xGrantxugh04:24
xGrantxhow do I make beryl set itself as the win manager when it starts?04:24
intelikeymoralless specificly witching from graphics mode to console mode and back ?      alt+ctrl+f1   and  alt+f7    ?04:24
xGrantxit starts but leaves KDE as the win manager04:24
morallessintelikey: yeah, but is there any real difference from using konsole or yakuake?04:25
hitmanWillyxGrantx: do you have beryl-manager installed?04:25
xGrantxyes04:25
xGrantxit starts04:25
hitmanWillyxGrantx: try switching from there04:25
xGrantxI do04:25
xGrantxbut it's annoying04:25
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intelikeymoralless no not a lot.     but i'm asking because i'll want you to run a command in the console in a minute when the computer catches up but don't want you lost there04:26
xGrantxand then two kiba-docks start for no reason04:26
hitmanWillyxGrantx: there should be a way to set beryl as the default from there04:26
xGrantxI have nothing for kiba-dock in the Autostart directory04:26
xGrantxit shouldn't be starting04:26
morallessintelikey: ok04:26
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xGrantxhitmanWilly: yea, I'll look through the Beryl settings04:27
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hitmanWillyxGrantx: as far as the kiba issue, got no idea04:28
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xGrantxhitmanWilly: well what other way does a program autostart?04:28
xGrantxbesides being in the kde Autostart dir04:29
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hitmanWillyxGrantx: i think beryl has some kind of autostart fuctionality as well, tho im not sure how it works04:29
xGrantxhmm04:30
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morallessintelikey: It's Done.04:30
redfiveberyl auto start is kinda funky04:30
xGrantxyes it is04:30
redfivei have 2 beryls starting when i log into kde04:30
intelikeymoralless let me just give you the commands for the console you can write them down or what ever.     (only two of them)    1. sudo rm -r /home/`whoami` ;sudo mkdir -m 000 /home/`whoami`           2. sudo umount /media ;sudo mount /home04:30
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xGrantxmine starts then doesn't switch to use beryl, so I have to manually switch04:30
xGrantxheh04:31
redfiveya, mine does that too04:31
xGrantxguess that's why this stuff is still under development04:31
redfiveberyl is still in devlopment04:31
xGrantxso is kiba-dock04:31
intelikeymoralless you will need to hit ctrl+alt+backspace   and when it gets to the login prompt drop to the console and run those two commands  then back to the gui and login.04:31
intelikeymoralless that's the whole shbang.   all there was to it.04:32
redfivebut i love beryl too much to trash talk it04:32
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markeanybody here able to help with video performance ?04:33
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morallessintelikey: ok, thanks, i'll come back in here and sat thanks again after i'm done04:33
intelikeymoralless you did    sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami` /media                      like i said when it finishes copying    or did you skip that step ?04:33
coreymon77!ask | marke04:34
ubotumarke: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:34
morallessintelikey: doing it now04:34
markelol04:34
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intelikeyi just remembered that that command was lost in the obscurity while we waited.....  :)04:34
defcon_what is the best easy way to install a ftpd on ubuntu?04:34
morallessintelikey: ok, it's done, i'll be back in a minute04:34
markemy video is slow - using nvidia-glx on a P3 laptop - 1GHz - 32MB vid RAM on GeForece2 card04:34
markevid is gittery when watching a DVD04:35
intelikeyok04:35
markeScreen draws are a bit slow too04:35
markeFunny thing is that04:35
markewhen I first boot the system stuff scrolls super fast in a shell, but04:35
markeafter a few minutes it slows down04:35
marke????04:35
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markeusing edgy - default install - only adds I made was nvidia-glx driver and some tools (firefox, tor, etc)04:36
BenWhiteyhey04:36
BenWhiteyis peter here?04:36
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markedefcon: use apt or adept to install packages04:37
intelikeydeselect aptitude or synaptic  are also options04:38
intelikeydselect  sorry04:38
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markedefcon: try something like this in a shell "sudo apt-get install pure-ftpd"04:38
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intelikeyproftpd - Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon04:40
defcon_marke, is proftpd easy to configure04:40
defcon_or pureftpd04:40
whitepyroMan i love when people call me for pc help LOL04:40
intelikeyvsftpd - The Very Secure FTP Daemon04:40
markedunno - i use pure-ftpd - easy enough04:40
whitepyrofriends hd just failed after 7 months moowah.....04:40
intelikeyftpd - FTP server04:41
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markewhy would my video run fast after loggin in to KDE but slow down after a few minutes?04:41
intelikeywhitepyro send it to me and i'll use it another seven years04:41
intelikey:)04:41
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BenWhiteylol04:42
intelikeymarke memory leak04:42
intelikeysystem loading up.04:42
markemakes sense.  how come once I was able to watch a DVD no problem - then I reloaded edgy and now I can't. No difference in install - both default04:43
markewhen i watch now it's gittery04:43
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markeaudio is good, screen looks like a slide show04:43
intelikeydifferance somewhere.04:43
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khirrmy wine startedup as win98, how can i startup it as XP?04:44
whitepyrointelikey: LOL windows fubarded his system as he tried to print.. Now thats funny04:44
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BenWhiteywas peter here earlier?04:44
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intelikeywhitepyro  ?04:44
morallessintelikey: everything's working great04:44
intelikeymoralless yes and ?04:44
intelikeyoh you are surprised   ?04:45
intelikeyhmmm....04:45
intelikey:)04:45
defcon_I need a ftpd like servu for ubuntu04:45
defcon_easy to set up etc04:45
defcon_something I dont need to create a user on my box and get hacked04:45
intelikeyok all joking aside.   you're welcoma moralless04:45
hitmanWilly!ftp | defcon_04:45
ubotudefcon_: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd04:45
morallessintelikey: no, just happy, no i have room for my music and movies04:45
RadiantFiredefcon_: ssh?04:46
defcon_!ftpd04:46
ubotuFTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP04:46
defcon_!vsftpd >>defcon04:46
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defcon_!vsftpd >defcon04:46
intelikeymoralless also you have a lot of free space in the system you can use as you need.04:46
defcon_!vsftpd > defcon04:46
defcon_hm04:46
hitmanWillydefcon_: try the !info flag04:46
defcon_!info vsftpd04:47
ubotuvsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 111 kB, installed size 408 kB04:47
markeftp me over some performance :-)04:47
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morallessintelikey: i know04:47
markeand some cash :-)04:47
markelol04:47
BenWhiteyso, is anyone good with wifi, madwifi, etc. ?04:48
markeBen: what do you need?04:48
intelikeyBenWhitey !i04:48
BenWhiteymarke: i'm nto sure, i need help LOL04:48
BenWhiteyi can't get my wifi working on my laptop04:48
markeme too - that's why I bought tequila .04:48
BenWhiteyhaha04:48
hitmanWillyBenWhitey: what model card?04:48
markewhat card do you have?04:48
BenWhitey1sec let me get it04:48
markeThree margaritas and counting....04:49
BenWhitey AR521204:49
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hitmanWillyBenWhitey: what brand?04:49
BenWhiteyi installed madwifi but it doesn't seem to help04:49
BenWhiteyAtheros Communications04:49
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redfivedam, i updated kubuntu and it panicked on bootup04:49
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intelikeyredfive it happens04:50
markewhat's the problem you have with the ar5212?04:50
redfiveglad i got it back04:50
hitmanWillyBenWhitey: have you tried checking it on google? there may be some known issues/workarounds04:50
BenWhitey<marke> I can't connect to my wireless network04:50
BenWhiteyyeah04:50
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BenWhiteyive tried04:50
BenWhiteyive tried installing madwifi drivers04:50
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BenWhiteyi can't seem to get it to work04:50
redfivethers no system restore in linux04:50
markeyou using WEP or WPA?04:50
BenWhiteynope, open network04:50
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markedoes the card show in the System Settings -> Network ?04:51
intelikeyredfive no we just reload.  :)04:51
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BenWhiteyyes04:51
redfiveya!04:51
BenWhiteyi can scan and see the network i want to connect to and my neighbors networks04:51
hitmanWillyintelikey: or reinstall :)04:51
markeso that means the system sees the card and loads drivers.04:51
redfiveits a fun activity04:51
intelikeyQ.   what do linux users do?04:51
intelikeyA.   they install software.04:51
markeso you need to enter the SSID, right?  What happens when you do that ?04:51
hitmanWillylol04:52
intelikey:)04:52
intelikeyi'm out for a while.04:52
hitmanWillyand waste a lot of time on irc...04:52
intelikeyhitmanWilly that too04:52
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BenWhiteyyeah04:52
BenWhiteyi did04:52
intelikeyhitmanWilly you and Jucato take care of while i'm gone,   k04:52
BenWhiteyit doesn't connect04:52
markeBen: paste in your /etc/network/interfaces here....04:52
hitmanWillygotcha...04:53
BenWhiteyi'm on windows04:53
BenWhiteylol04:53
RadiantFirenot here... on a pastebin04:53
BenWhiteyyeah04:53
BenWhiteyi know04:53
markewherever04:53
hitmanWillyBenWhitey: does the router have some kind of filtering set up?04:54
RadiantFireBenWhitey: so I'm sorry, you can see the networks but can't join them?04:54
BenWhiteyin windows it works great04:54
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RadiantFireBenWhitey: what goes wrong in linux? you just can't connect?04:54
BenWhiteyyeah04:55
BenWhiteyit stalls at 28%04:55
redfivelinux users compile softwaer04:55
markein your interfaces file you outta see something under ath0 probably that has wireless-essid and possibly wireless-key04:55
BenWhiteyno04:55
hitmanWillyBenWhitey: how long do you let it sit?04:55
BenWhiteyyeah04:55
BenWhiteya long time04:55
BenWhiteyit fials04:55
BenWhiteyand just says disconnected04:55
BenWhiteyeverything in interfaces is auto04:55
hitmanWillyBenWhitey: does it give any other info? or just the 28%?04:56
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markeBen: you can try manually putting in your ssid and then restarting the networking - I've had to do that before with my Atheros04:57
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RadiantFireBenWhitey: what kind of card is it?04:58
markeRF: Atheros - AR521204:58
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/5qDfqT72.html04:58
RadiantFireroflmao, parsed as c++, I am amused04:59
RadiantFireanyway04:59
BenWhiteylol04:59
BenWhiteythats the one i always use04:59
RadiantFirei'm a bad coder, I forgot what the auto keyword does04:59
BenWhiteyeasy for me to remember its site for some reason04:59
RadiantFireBenWhitey: have you tried doing it form the terminal... I've had network manager flake out on me before04:59
BenWhiteyyes04:59
kane_Hey i think i just wiped my partion that had my grub, i have another grub on this partion here, how do i make sure that this grub will be loaded05:00
BenWhiteyi have tried many things05:00
kane_you get what im saying?05:00
RadiantFireBenWhitey: what does dhclient say?05:00
hitmanWillykane_: set up to boot from the drive its on in bios05:00
BenWhiteyok this is going ot be a pain to type out05:00
kane_hrm ok.05:00
BenWhiteylol05:00
BenWhiteygimme a few min05:01
markeBen: Under the "auto ath0" -> "iface" lines, add a line like this: wireless-essid myrouterssid - where myrouterssid is the name of the router05:01
hitmanWillykane_: if possible, don't change the drive order, just boot from that drive, changing drive order can screw up grub05:01
kane_yeah i dont think i changed the drive order, i just had installed PClinuxOS on another partion and it was using that version of grub to boot.05:02
kane_but i just wiped that partion out.05:02
BenWhiteyyeah05:02
BenWhiteyok05:02
BenWhiteydo you still want me to type out dhclient?05:03
BenWhiteyor should i do that first and try dhclient again05:03
hitmanWillykane_: worst case scenario is it doesn't boot right, maybe give you an error 1505:03
markeBen: if you add that line to your interfaces file, then restart networking "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" then start05:03
hitmanWillykane_: in that case you'll need to edit grub's config files to change the drives around05:03
BenWhiteyso i add it underneath the iface line?05:03
BenWhiteyjust want to make sure i don't screw up05:04
hitmanWillymarke: he could just use the restart option too05:04
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hitmanWillymarke: ie /etc/init.d/networking restart05:05
BenWhiteyok05:05
kane_hitmanWilly: not menu.lst, im i looking for the device map?05:05
hitmanWillykane_: just change around menu.lst to reflect the new drive order05:06
BenWhiteyi just did sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart05:06
hitmanWillykane_: ie changing hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) or whatever05:06
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kane_ah05:07
kane_ok05:07
hitmanWillykane_: grub just goes off of the bios drive order05:07
BenWhiteyok it didn't work05:07
kane_hrm. i see.05:07
BenWhiteyits a really long paste though05:07
kane_thanks muchly05:07
hitmanWillynp :)05:08
klobsterwhat is the sound system that Kubuntu uses by default?  and how do I restart it?05:08
hitmanWillyklobster: kde or the entire system?05:09
kane_klobster: well if you are using kde youre prolly thinking of arts.05:09
BenWhiteythat didn't work05:09
klobsterNot sure the one I restart in the sound system control panel?05:10
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hitmanWillyklobster: ok, that's arts05:10
klobsterthank you.  How do i restart it?05:10
hitmanWillyklobster: artsd is the daemon05:10
hitmanWillyklobster: disable then reenable the sound system in kcontrol05:11
BenWhiteyany ideas guys???05:11
klobsterhitmanWilly that's how it got locked up...05:11
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markeyou got the right ssid in the ath0 section on a line by itself?05:12
hitmanWillyklobster: killall artsd then rerun it05:12
BenWhiteyyup05:12
BenWhiteywireless-essid unique05:12
markeyou sure the router isn't requiring wep or wpa?05:12
BenWhiteyyes05:12
BenWhiteypositive05:12
kane_BenWhitey: and are you sure your neighbors are not using mac filtering?05:12
BenWhiteyopen network05:13
BenWhiteyi'm connecting to my open network05:13
dr_willisHmm.  i wonder how many other people are checking out the Dell Linux box's05:13
BenWhiteyi'm just too lazy to secure it, and i don't really care if people use it05:13
dr_willislaptop they offer dosent seem too bad.05:13
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hitmanWillydr_willis: not me, i build my own :)05:13
kane_dr_willis: id like to pick up the laptop.05:13
dr_willishitmanWilly,  so do i.. but i cant beat their  prices.05:13
hitmanWillydr_willis: plus i have some issues with the crap hardware dell sends out05:14
markelemme check something05:14
BenWhiteyi got a lenovo tablet for like 1900$ including shipping and tax, 1.83 core duo 100gb 7200rpm drive05:14
dr_willisbeen having the same  build your own/buy arguments all week.05:14
BenWhiteyits pretty sick05:14
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BenWhiteynow if i could just get the wifi working it would be perfect05:14
klobsterHitmanWilly do i need to sudo the artsd daemon?  (BTW: the dellbuntu boxen look pretty nice)05:14
hitmanWillyklobster: i dont think so, but maybe05:15
kane_BenWhitey: what card are you using.05:15
klobsterdecent dellbunut lappies start at what 590?05:15
markeunder System Settings -> Network Settings, what is the "interface" name?05:15
dr_willisdell one i just priced was $88805:15
klobster*dellbuntu05:15
dr_willisdident go all out for the high end. :) just upgraded a few.05:15
klobsterwith sudo I got this error:05:16
klobsterLink points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"05:16
klobstercan't create mcop directory05:16
dr_williscompared to some of the other dell systems. theur linux boxs are more customizeable..05:16
hitmanWilly"dude, you're gettin' ubuntu!!"05:16
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BenWhiteyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45098705:16
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BenWhiteythats my post from earlier05:16
BenWhiteyhas a whole bunch of info05:16
BenWhiteynobody really answered it05:16
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BenWhiteybut i installed kubuntu again05:17
BenWhiteyso the interface file is different05:17
BenWhiteybut the rest i think is generally the same05:17
K-RyanAnyone know how I would go about installing Wolfenstein Enemy Territory?05:17
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dr_willisK-Ryan,  i installed it ages ago.05:17
klobsterok cant be artsd, because it is still locked.05:17
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kane_BenWhitey: have you just tried the tool provided with your ubuntu install?05:17
BenWhitey<kane_> which tool?05:18
BenWhiteyknetworkmanager ?05:18
K-Ryandr_willis: I can only find an executable for download on the website.05:18
kane_i'm trying to remember...05:18
BenWhitey<kane_> on my previous instalation it woudln't even open. on this one it opens05:18
K-RyanGoogle around for a Linux version I guess?05:18
kane_its not knetworkmanger.05:18
hitmanWillyklobster: have you tried restarting X?05:18
BenWhiteyi'm using madwifi drivers05:18
dr_willisK-Ryan,  check that linux gamers tome site05:18
BenWhiteybut they didn't change anything05:18
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lascardr_willis: good evening05:19
ardchoilleHow do I disable certain keys? I want to disable the printscreen key.05:19
dr_willisdisable it from doing what?05:19
ardchoilleFrom working05:19
BenWhitey<kane_> any ideas?05:19
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dr_willisnever noticed it doing much. :)05:19
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ardchoilleThe printscreen key launches ksnapshot05:20
klobsterHitmanWilly: I know that will work, I have been trying to refrain from the bad habits I picked up from windows.05:20
markeBen: under the System Settings -> Networking Settings, what05:20
markeis the "interface" name listed there for your card?05:20
dr_willischeck the keybinding/settings under kde yet? thats a kde feature.05:20
ko12uptanyone know how i can turn this into a panel its just some icons .png for now so everyone can see what im doing this is in ubuntu but i dont think anyone in there knows how this is what im doing anyone intrested in helping me with some questions i have http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/24/f_Screenshotm_af2b97c.png look at this first the bottom is suppose to be a customized pannel but its not its icons put together i want to mak05:20
ko12upte a panel from this any help would be appreciated ] 05:20
BenWhitey<kane_> yup05:20
BenWhitey<kane_> it is enabled05:20
ardchoilledr_willis: Already disabled it there a long time ago, seems the kb shortcut is still in effect.05:21
dr_willisid say ask in #kde05:21
BenWhitey<kane_> but it does have IP 169.254.5.5805:21
dr_willismay be getting used by some other task/settings05:21
hitmanWillyklobster: an X restart isn't really a bad habit unless the error repeats itself multiple times, then you have config issues05:21
BenWhiteymaybe i should change the IP manually05:21
BenWhiteybut i don't want to mess anything up05:21
marke169..x.x.x is the auto config network - for when a card can't get an address otherwise.05:21
hitmanWillyklobster: not a reboot, just restarting X05:21
ardchoilledr_willis: Ah, ok, thanks05:21
BenWhiteyyeah05:21
BenWhiteyok, so should i manually configure it05:22
markewhen you see that addy it means the card can't talk on the network using DHCP to get an address05:22
kane_BenWhitey: ah found it wlassistant was the tool i was thinking off.05:22
markeno, manual config won't help you unless you can connect to the router - so what's the interface name? eth0 or ath0?05:22
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BenWhitey<kane_> does that come with the default install?05:22
kane_ive had good luck with in in the past.05:22
BenWhiteyath005:22
BenWhiteyor do i need to install it via apt-get05:23
kane_it came with my girlfriends default install but i dont see it on mine.05:23
kane_i just apt got it.05:23
markeso ath0 shows up in the System Settings -> Network Settings?05:23
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BenWhitey<marke> yes with a 169.*.*.* IP05:23
BenWhiteydo you have the code to get it?05:23
BenWhitey(i'm new to linux)05:24
markeOK - so when you put the wireless-essid name in interfaces you put that under the ath0 section?05:24
BenWhiteyi di05:24
BenWhiteynothing changed05:24
BenWhiteyyup05:24
kane_BenWhitey: sudo apt-get install wlassistant05:24
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markei've had similar trouble. I manually put my essid in the interfaces file, and rebooted, and it worked. had to reboot though because of some unknown issue with the network layer.05:24
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kane_linux wireless support is a litte underwhelming.05:25
lascarhow do i get root-level access to a kubuntu distro from a live cd?05:25
aallevaHola!05:25
dr_williswirelss support under all os's is underwhelming...05:25
kane_lascar: you start out with it if i recall.05:25
kane_dr_willis: agreed.05:25
lascari don't05:25
aallevaHola!! alguien q hable espaol?05:25
kane_but i think linux has it worse.05:25
dr_willisperhaps with wireless-n the companies will get their acts together.05:25
BenWhiteyok05:26
K-Ryan!es | aalleva05:26
ubotuaalleva: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:26
BenWhiteyshould i try rebooting?05:26
aallevagracias!05:26
BenWhiteyor should i try wlassistant first?05:26
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kane_BenWhitey: either or.  Ive found rebooting sometimes helps with wireless issues.05:26
K-Ryandr_willis: I found a .x86.run, will that work?05:26
kane_for some crazy reazon.05:26
BenWhiteyok05:26
BenWhiteyi'll reboot first05:26
hitmanWillyeveryone seems to think that windows support is better, but that's just because companies write software add on drivers for it05:26
markeI would try rebooting, ya. Make sure the wireless-essid is still in your interfaces file in case the GUI took it out. Then reboot.05:26
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kane_hitmanWilly: of course.05:27
kane_still doesnt change that the linux has it worse off.05:27
BenWhiteyok05:27
markeubuntu wifi support is pretty good compared to some other distros I've seen.05:27
hitmanWillyif windows had to stand on its own like nix does, it wouldn't even be worth the DVD's it came on05:27
BenWhiteyrebooting, lets see what happens05:27
kane_i agree.05:27
kane_ive used linux soley for about 5 or 6 years.05:27
markeya, keeping chatting with us while you reboot :-)05:27
dr_willisK-Ryan,  run it and see. :) it may be a self-installing-executable. I advice installing it just for the one user05:27
kane_and windows XP has some pretty intresting wireless issues.05:27
BenWhiteyit does05:27
BenWhiteybut it has better driver support IMO05:28
K-Ryandr_willis: Well I mean it's a big file I'd like to know if it would work before waiting all that time =P05:28
K-RyanBut I'll try05:28
markeXP means Xtra Speshul05:28
kane_oh yeah it does. linux will ge tthere though.05:28
dr_williskane_,  yea.. gotta love it when you need to decide to use 'the windows tools' or the 'wireless card makers' tools.05:28
kane_its made huge strides in the last few years.05:28
hitmanWillyand neither works right :)05:28
kane_dr_willis: agreed.  i do support for some wireless modems.05:28
kane_and they intefere with each other.05:28
lascarand with dell working with Canonical for their Linux pcs...05:28
kane_its pretty hot.05:28
dr_williskane_,  my idea of 'wireless support' is to  run wires. :)05:28
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kane_yeah i'm a big fan of wired anyway.  Wireless to me is kinda shady05:29
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BenWhiteywtf05:29
BenWhiteymy laptop won't turn on05:29
markewireless is basically microwave - and that is VERY bad for DNA and brain cells....05:29
BenWhiteyi typed "reboot" into console05:29
BenWhiteysudo reboot05:29
dr_williskane_,  ubuntu got my laptop wireless going. :)05:29
BenWhiteyand its died or something05:29
lascarmarke: wireless = radio waves05:29
kane_i managed to get my girls wireless going well too, i think its using ath chipset.05:29
K-RyanHey guys when I get a new computer do you think I'd be able to ask for no Vista and get a lower price?05:30
ko12uptthis is what im doing anyone intrested in helping me with some questions i have http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/24/f_Screenshotm_af2b97c.png look at this first the bottom is suppose to be a customized pannel but its not its icons put together i want to make a panel from this any help would be appreciated05:30
markewireless = radio waves = Ghz spectrum = microwaves spectrum = DNA damage and brain cells damage05:30
dr_willisK-Ryan,  doubtfull05:30
kane_K-Ryan: you should check out the ubuntu dells, maybe.05:30
BenWhiteyany idea how to turn on my laptop?05:30
dr_willislooking at the ubuntu-dells right now. :)05:30
dr_willisnot badly priced.05:30
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: good luck, of course you could always ask for a refund from M$05:30
BenWhiteythe power button doesn't seem to be working05:30
K-RyanBenWhitey: Button?05:30
RadiantFirei am made sad that kubuntu isn't on them... at least they are guaranteed to work with linux if it comes preinstalled, and thats enough for me05:31
markewtf?  take the battery out - unplug the laptop - plug it all back in and try again05:31
lascarmarke: ghz spectrum includes a variety of waves, including gamma.  some are more damaging than others, obviously.  But wi-fi isn't one of those.05:31
K-RyanHow good is a Dell?05:31
BenWhiteywhat does "reboot" do in console?05:31
RadiantFirereboots the computer05:31
K-RyanI've only had a Gateway and this Sony Vaio05:31
RadiantFireit is an alias for shutdown -r now05:31
BenWhiteyhmm05:31
BenWhiteythats what i did05:31
markereboot shuts down the OS and makes it re-post from BIOS05:31
dr_willisK-Ryan,  reasonable i hear.05:31
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: they were crap last time i tried one05:31
BenWhiteyand it seems to have died05:31
kane_K-Ryan: the ubuntu tells start off 100 buicks cheaper.05:31
ko12uptim taking it as no one knows how to do this05:32
kane_K-Ryan: ive had good luck with them, but i normally build my own.05:32
K-RyanhitmanWilly: How long ago was it?05:32
markeif you decide to toss it send it to me :-)05:32
K-Ryankane_: That's kind of an option here, to be honest I've got everything I want but I need a better processor.05:32
markeI have 4 Dell laptops ... pretty good so far - 6 years later05:32
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: about the height of the dude campaign, a friend had one...forget which model...complete crap05:32
kane_K-Ryan: i would just pick up another proc then.05:32
ko12uptthis is what im doing anyone intrested in helping me with some questions i have http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/24/f_Screenshotm_af2b97c.png look at this first the bottom is suppose to be a customized pannel but its not its icons put together i want to make a panel from this any help would be appreciated05:32
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ko12uptcheck this out does anyone know how to turn taht into a panelk05:33
ko12uptpanel05:33
markeBen: did you take out the battery and power chord?05:33
K-RyanOh yeah, did I mention my dvd drive is stuck, my cd drive is becoming stuck, and they're riveted in the case...05:33
BenWhitey<marke> no, the battery light is on05:33
K-RyanI forget about that sometimes because I'm so used to it not working...05:33
markeis the machine powered off?05:33
RadiantFirei'm not sure what exactly do you want ko12upt?05:33
BenWhitey<marke> i don't know05:33
markeis the drive light on?05:34
BenWhitey<marke> the light is suppsed to go off when its off, but its on05:34
markeor blinking?05:34
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: riveted!?! wtf is that S***05:34
BenWhitey<marke> the hard drive is not blinking05:34
BenWhitey<marke> it is solid on05:34
K-RyanWell the drives aren't, but they're in a section that you can't get them out of.05:34
BenWhitey<marke> it is the battery light05:34
K-RyanIt's bs05:34
BenWhiteywait05:34
markeif you think there's no disk IO and then force it to turn off by holding the power button down for several secs - that might work - it works on Dell05:34
BenWhiteyit is humming05:34
BenWhiteyso it must be on05:34
dr_willisbecause it dosent know the words?05:34
BenWhiteymaybe its hybernating05:34
kane_yeah that works with almost all new computers.05:34
BenWhiteyhibernating05:34
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K-Ryandr_willis: hahaha05:35
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: that has to be a deliberate tactic to force you to buy a new one when something simple breaks...no other explanation05:35
klobsterko12upt do you want to add another panel, or custom design a panel?05:35
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ko12uptcustom design05:35
K-RyanhitmanWilly: Probably05:35
ko12uptlook at that link05:35
ko12uptthis is what im doing anyone intrested in helping me with some questions i have http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/24/f_Screenshotm_af2b97c.png look at this first the bottom is suppose to be a customized pannel but its not its icons put together i want to make a panel from this any help would be appreciated05:35
markewell if it's doing hibernating then wake it back up and reboot.05:35
BenWhiteyexclelent05:35
BenWhiteyi held down the button and it works05:35
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ko12upttake a look at it thats just a link for now so you can see what im doing05:35
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markethat's a secret - don't tell anyone :-)05:36
adrianhola05:36
ko12uptmy panel isnt done yet and i need to figure out how to turn it into one05:36
K-RyanHola adrian05:36
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kane_ko05:36
adrianpuedo hacer una consulta?05:36
K-Ryan!es | adrian05:36
kane_ko12upt: how are you trying to do that, exactly?05:36
ubotuadrian: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:36
adrianestoy conectandome por un modem usb adsl05:36
K-RyanThought ubotu was broken again...05:36
ko12upti need to mask it05:36
ko12uptbut i dont know how05:37
ko12uptlol kane you like that they are just icons05:37
ko12uptplaced together05:37
BenWhiteyok, i'm still not on the net05:37
ko12uptneat effect too bad they dont work yet05:37
BenWhiteyi'll try installing that thingy05:37
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BenWhiteysudo apt-get install wlassistant05:38
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ko12uptthis is in gnome so i dont know if you guys know anything about this im05:38
adrianhola?05:38
K-RyanDo you guys think it would be cheaper to get a new motherboard(because the processor probably wouldn't work on the current one), new dvd drive, or just a new computer?05:38
ko12uptjust fustrated no one has any ideas05:38
K-Ryan!es|adrian05:38
ubotuadrian: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:38
ko12uptand i cant find a tutorial05:38
maltaethironHey, what's the sudo apt-get command for flash?05:38
maltaethironfor firefox*05:39
kane_ko12upt: sorry i still dont really understand what you are trying to do per se...05:39
K-RyanErr, new motherboard+processor+dvd drive05:39
maltaethironlike, flash for firefox05:39
adriansi, si, pero una pregunta, estoy conectado, pero no puedo navegar, hago ping y anda, q puede ser, los DNS andan bien05:39
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Sergo-Kubuntu!time05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
kane_maltaethiron: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree05:39
kane_i think.05:39
kane_i always install it via automatix now-a-days.05:39
K-RyanPersonas de mucho ayuda estan en #kubuntu-es05:39
maltaethironthanks05:39
BenWhiteyok, connecting to my network failed05:40
ko12uptKane im trying to turn that into a panel, Right now its just a couple of icons over a transparent panel im trying to turn those images into a panel05:40
BenWhiteyshould i manually configure it?05:40
K-RyanPersonas aqui no hablan espanol, lo siento05:40
ko12uptI just placed them like that so you can get an idea of what it will look like05:40
markeBen: I would manually config it and then try restarting the network layer "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" and start05:40
adrianok, gracias05:40
K-Ryande nada ;)05:40
markeor if you use the GUI to do the config then it will restart networking for you05:40
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BenWhiteykk05:41
kane_ko12upt: i must be stupid, because i dont see any icons in that picture.  Just import down at the bottom.05:41
markedid you DL wlassistant and try that yet?/05:41
ko12uptyes05:42
ko12uptthats an icon05:42
BenWhiteyyeah05:42
BenWhiteyi'm using it now05:42
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ko12uptso is the other one next to it05:42
BenWhiteywhat do i put as broadcast? 192.168.1.255?05:42
markeOK, I don't know if wlassistant will restart the net - never used it -05:42
ko12uptthats not a panel i want those images to be a panel05:42
markeone sec...05:42
kane_ko12upt: could you not get one of the many docker type applications and just use a custom background?05:42
markeya i think it's .25505:43
ko12uptnope :P im makeing this definate05:43
BenWhiteyok let me try05:43
kane_outside of doing that kind of think, i'm thinking you would require some serious coding.05:43
BenWhiteywhats netmask?05:43
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BenWhiteyis that subnet mask?05:43
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dr_willisanyone recall the name of this embeded-linux device i saw the other day.. looked sort of like a pillow-deskclock you could program05:43
markemanual config - oh - right - you can do that but unless you can connect to the router it won't work - most likely.05:44
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dr_williscumly chumbly chunbely?05:44
markenetmask is probably 255.255.255.005:44
hitmanWillyBenWhitey: try 255.255.2555.005:44
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hitmanWillyer 255.255.255.005:44
BenWhiteyyea, well the dhcp connection fails05:44
BenWhiteyyeah05:44
kane_BenWhitey: can you connect to the network in windows?05:44
kane_or, does this tablet connect to any other networks?05:45
markeor do you have another card you can try?05:45
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BenWhiteygod05:49
BenWhiteyyes05:49
BenWhiteysorry my mom was being a BITCH and took over my comptuer so she could write some email05:49
BenWhiteyok what do i put for domain?05:49
BenWhiteyin windows its fine05:49
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BenWhiteylinux is the only issue05:49
BenWhiteyi can scan and see all the networks around05:49
BenWhiteyand i see them in wireless assistant05:50
BenWhiteybut i can't connect05:50
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BenWhiteywhat do i put for domain?05:51
BenWhiteyno i don't hvae another card05:52
BenWhiteyit works fine in windows05:52
BenWhiteyperfect 48 or 54mbps connection05:52
lascarnobody knows how toi get root-level access to a kubuntu distro from a live cd?05:52
hitmanWillyBenWhitey: have you tried connecting via the cmd line? seeing what errors get spit out?05:52
markethat's interesting - could be DHCP problem, maybe. This is a clean install ?05:52
ardchoillelascar: When running the livecd, just use sudo05:52
BenWhiteyyup05:53
hitmanWillyreinstall dhcpd?05:53
lascarnot root, but the access to the hd05:53
BenWhiteyits a clean install05:53
K-Ryan!midi05:53
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo05:53
markedid you ever check output from dhclient taht someone suggested? I forget05:53
BenWhiteyi didn't type it up05:53
BenWhiteyits soo long05:53
BenWhiteyi'll connect my ethernet and paste it in05:54
ardchoillelascar: I did this yesterday showing off Ubuntu: sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda105:54
BenWhitey1sec05:54
kane_BenWhitey: try typing: dhclient ath005:54
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BenWhiteyso hold up05:54
K-RyanHey guys, midi files, TiMidity++ ?05:54
BenWhiteyshould i stop with the manual config with wireless assistant?05:54
hitmanWillykane_: i think he meant the paste was to long to hand type out05:54
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markei would, ya. set it to DHCP.05:54
Sergo-Kubuntuwhat is the time now05:55
kane_no, i know.  Ive had to do it on wireless cards before though, running the dhclient again.05:55
markemanual config gives your card an addy but the card has nowhere to send traffic. so it doesn't help.05:55
BenWhiteyok05:55
markeon wired card that might help, but not wifi05:55
lascarardchoille: brb05:55
kane_BenWhitey: if all else fails you can try ndiswrapper05:55
BenWhiteyok05:56
klobsterko12upt: ok you asked a gnome question in a kde channel, but I almost have an answer for you so hold on05:56
ko12uptklobster k05:56
ko12uptthanks sorry i have three channels open and im a little tired :)05:57
markendiswrapper is a wrapper for Windows drivers isn't it?05:57
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/909jrw12.html05:57
ko12uptyes05:57
BenWhiteydamn it, i typed it wrong05:57
ko12uptmarke it uses the windows drivers ndiswrapper -i then the driver05:57
K-RyanIs there a system behind how people's names get colored in Konversation? I've noticed that people always have the same color name?05:58
K-RyanErr, the second part wasn't a question.05:58
ko12uptmarke it has to be an .inf file though and if there are cabinets you need to extract them05:58
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/909Jrw12.html05:58
ko12uptusing unshield05:58
BenWhiteythere we go05:58
Jack333hwo do i change the default midi port to timidity05:58
Jack333like when i try to play midi, i hear nothing , but if i use a command for timidity and then set the program to timidity port, it works05:59
Jack333but this one midi app i have doesnt let me select alternate ports05:59
Jack333so how can i make timidity the default midi port/player thing05:59
markeyou don't happen to have a firewall blocking port 67 do you ben?06:00
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ko12uptBenWhitey do this iwconfig06:00
ko12uptand paste out the file06:00
klobsterko12upt: I don't know much about gnome, but I believe this should point the way for you: http://www.natewelch.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4106:00
BenWhiteyi don't think so06:00
BenWhiteyyou mean in kubuntu?06:01
ko12uptand paste out the input to pastebin06:01
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ko12uptBenWhitey iwconfig then paste out the read out to pastebin06:01
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klobsterko12upt: elseif install avant?06:02
ko12uptklobster06:02
ko12uptthink that just might work06:02
oldwestHi All - trying to watch Divx using Firefox - Have following players etc. installed - running edgy - Gxine - Kaffeine w/mozilla plugins - KMplayer - Mplayer - VLC Media Player - Xine movie player w/mozilla PLUGINS _ w32codecs - Any idea's - Not sure what to try next ? ? ?06:02
ko12uptill leave the panel below it and see if i can make it work06:02
BenWhiteywtf, pastebin isn't working06:02
markeya - if you did a default install there's nothing block port 67 - do iwconfig and paste the output, ko12upt suggested.06:03
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ko12uptben where does it say you have a connection06:03
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kane_oldwest: i think you need mplayerplug-in06:03
BenWhiteyath006:03
ko12upttheres your problem06:03
BenWhitey1 Mb/s connection06:03
ko12uptiwconfig ath0 essid then your essid06:04
BenWhitey802.11g06:04
BenWhiteyive done that06:04
BenWhiteyit says the essid in iwconfig06:04
oldwestkane - have mplayer and all dependencies i believe06:04
ko12uptiwconfig ath0 key restricted then key here06:04
BenWhiteyopen network06:04
kane_no, mplayerplug-in is the mozilla plugin for mplayer.06:04
ko12uptiwconfig ath0 mode Managed06:04
ko12uptBen then do this06:04
BenWhiteyits already managed06:04
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/QgoyPC81.html06:05
ko12uptiwconfig ath0 essid and type it here iwconfig ath0 mode Managed then type dhcpcd ath006:05
ko12uptyour done06:05
ko12uptben just do that06:05
ko12uptor if dhcpcd doesnt work06:05
ko12uptdo ifdown ath006:05
BenWhiteyive done all that before06:05
ko12uptthen do ifup ath006:05
klobsterko12upt: leave the panel below?  It looked like it would use your custom graphic AS the panel, no?06:05
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BenWhiteyi'm happy to do it again06:05
ko12uptyea06:06
ko12uptklobster it will06:06
BenWhiteydid you look at my iwconfig ?06:06
ko12upthold on06:06
klobsterko12upt: oh.  Actually thats a neat idea, i may have to look into it for the K'06:06
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ko12uptBenWhitey jsut do as i say06:06
BenWhiteyhah06:06
ko12upttrust me06:06
BenWhiteyok06:06
BenWhiteyi'll try it06:06
ko12uptyea06:06
oldwestkane - what should i search for in synapitics?06:07
ko12uptthats just saying that your wireless is working06:07
ko12uptor your eth is working06:07
ko12uptif you type that out it will work06:07
ko12uptklobster like that hu06:07
kane_oldwest: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer should do it.06:07
ko12uptand i did the graphics with gimp06:07
ko12uptKlobster you should be able to do it in kubuntu add a panel remove the old one make the new panel transparent then make some icons like i did06:08
ko12uptand adjust them to your needs06:08
BenWhiteyok it didn't work06:09
BenWhiteyi'll give you the full paste06:09
klobsteryeah, it seemed simple enough after reading that.  I really liked the background, you did that yourself?06:09
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/iyqXtV50.html06:10
ko12uptBenWhitey iwconfig ath0 essid unique then  iwconfig ath0 mode Managed then dhcpcd ath0 if dhcpcd isnt there then this step sudo apt-get install dhcpcd then do the dhcpcd ath006:10
BenWhiteyi did06:10
BenWhiteyok06:10
BenWhiteyi'll apt-get it06:10
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BenWhiteydid you look at my paste?06:10
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ko12uptBenWhitey06:10
ko12uptsudo apt-get install dhcpcd06:10
BenWhiteyok done06:11
BenWhiteyinstalled it06:11
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ko12uptthen follow above06:11
BenWhiteylet me redo those commands06:11
ko12upthold on06:11
BenWhiteyok06:11
ko12uptbefore you get to dhcpcd do this ifdown ath006:11
BenWhiteykk06:11
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BenWhiteyshould i disconnect my ethernet for this?06:13
BenWhiteywould it make a difference?06:13
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BenWhiteytrying to connect to the router wireless when i'm already conneced via wire06:13
ko12uptno06:13
ko12uptits fine06:13
BenWhiteyok06:13
BenWhiteywell i typed in: sudo dhcpcd ath006:14
BenWhiteyand it looks like its frozen06:14
BenWhiteyup no06:14
BenWhiteyok06:14
BenWhiteydone06:14
ko12upt:)06:14
BenWhiteynow what?06:14
BenWhiteyiwconfig?06:14
ko12uptyour connected06:14
markelol06:14
BenWhiteyi don't thinks o06:14
ko12uptmarke all from gnome06:14
kane_type ifconfig06:14
kane_see if youre wifi gets an address06:14
kane_er your.06:14
ko12uptkane hes is using dhcpcd06:14
kane_aahhh, so he is.06:15
ko12upt:)_06:15
ko12upti changed him over i find that ifup messes up sometimes06:15
ko12uptalso told him to do a ifdown06:15
BenWhiteyum06:15
kane_yeah ive had issues.06:15
BenWhiteyi'm not connected06:15
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markedoh06:15
ko12uptlol06:15
kane_heh.06:15
ko12upthold on06:16
BenWhiteyi can't ping my router06:16
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BenWhiteyi unpluged my ethernet06:16
ko12uptand06:16
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BenWhiteyand i typed:06:16
BenWhiteyping 192.168.1.106:16
BenWhiteyand its unreachable06:16
BenWhiteywtf06:16
ko12uptdid you try to connect to the internet06:16
BenWhiteybut in wireless assitant it says i'm connected06:16
oldwestkane - are u still there - had to answer phone - went and checked synaptics for mozilla-mplayer - synaptics shows it's installed - any other idea's?06:16
ko12uptyes you are06:17
markenow i'm confused 8)06:17
ko12upthes a numb nut lol06:17
BenWhiteyi don't think so06:17
ko12uptno offense06:17
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markecould be this fourth margarita - dunno - gotta have another to figure it out06:17
ko12uptben does it say your connected06:17
BenWhiteyi'm trying to ping google now06:17
BenWhiteyyes06:17
BenWhiteybut i'm not06:18
BenWhiteyi don't thinks06:18
BenWhiteya tleast06:18
marketry the browser06:18
ko12uptwell unplug the eth06:18
BenWhiteyyeah06:18
BenWhiteyi did06:18
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BenWhiteythats why i'm not connected06:18
ko12uptthen try connecting to the net06:18
BenWhitey"an error has occured while loading page http://www.google.com"06:18
BenWhiteyoh06:18
BenWhiteymy ip is 169 now06:18
BenWhiteymaybe thats why06:18
ko12uptomg06:18
BenWhiteyi'll manually set it06:19
BenWhiteyok?06:19
ko12uptall the commands i gave you should work06:19
BenWhiteywell06:19
ko12uptyes manually configure06:19
BenWhiteyok06:19
BenWhiteyi think i have to disconnect first06:19
BenWhiteyto then reconnect06:19
BenWhiteyok?06:19
BenWhiteyor should i manually set my ip via console06:20
ko12upthow bout this06:20
ko12uptrestart the computer06:20
ko12uptaww hold on06:20
ko12uptdid you do a ndiswrapper -m too06:20
BenWhiteyi'm using madwifi06:20
BenWhiteyi don't have ndiswrapper06:21
ko12uptaww okay restart the computer06:21
ko12uptshould work when it boots again06:21
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ko12upt:)06:22
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BenWhiteywtf06:22
BenWhiteysomething happened to my computer06:22
BenWhiteyits the same thign as before06:22
BenWhiteyhte screen isn't loading06:22
BenWhiteythere was the loading screen for kubuntu06:22
BenWhiteyand now its black06:22
oscarhow do i find what wireless driver is being used06:23
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ko12upthmm06:23
BenWhiteyok06:23
BenWhiteyi held down the power button06:23
BenWhiteyit shutdown06:23
BenWhiteyand i turned it back on06:24
ko12uptokay06:24
BenWhiteyloading kubuntu, lets hope it works06:24
ko12uptk06:24
BenWhiteyin the future, i will not "restart" only shutdown06:24
ko12upt:)06:24
BenWhiteyand then turn on06:24
BenWhiteyok06:25
BenWhiteyi'm in kubuntu06:25
BenWhiteynow what?06:25
ko12uptokay06:25
ko12uptcheck your connections tab06:25
ko12uptsee if its connected06:25
BenWhiteyno it doesn't06:26
BenWhiteyi'm "connecting"06:26
ko12uptk06:26
BenWhiteyin wireless assitant06:26
BenWhitey"connection failed"06:26
ko12upthm06:26
ko12uptokay this is how i see it06:26
ko12uptyour driver is working for one its finding your network06:26
ko12uptsomething is stopping the connection06:27
ko12uptfirewall?06:27
oscaris there other networks you could try connecting to.  (Just a thought)06:27
BenWhiteydoes kubuntu have one built in?06:27
ko12uptyes06:27
BenWhiteythey are encryped06:27
BenWhiteyhow do i turn this ish off06:27
ko12upt!firewall06:27
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:27
ko12upt:)06:27
BenWhiteywould a firewall on my laptop stop it from connecting to my router?06:28
markeyikes - forget the iptables command - use Firestarter instead06:28
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BenWhiteyfirestarter is not installed06:29
markeit could if it blocks port 97 - doesn't block it on my system with no firewall mods06:29
markeyou have to install firestarter06:29
oscardo you have access to your router from a different computer06:29
markeit's a GUI control for iptables - pretty simple to use06:29
BenWhiteyyeah06:29
BenWhiteyim on my wireless network on this computer (in windows)06:30
ko12uptokay benWhitey06:30
oscarlog into your router and open it completely up.  No wep or anything.06:30
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BenWhiteyno wep no encryption06:30
BenWhiteytrust me06:30
BenWhiteyits all open06:30
ko12uptdo you have the windows drivers for that driver06:30
BenWhiteyno mac filters06:30
ko12upterr06:30
oscaroh dang06:30
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ko12upthardware06:30
BenWhiteyno nothing06:30
BenWhiteyyou could drive up to my house ans start using it (that is if you could get yoru wifi driver to work)06:31
oscarha ha.06:31
BenWhiteyits the wrt54g06:31
ko12uptif you can find something for that driver using windows i suggest highly you use the ndiswrapper06:31
BenWhiteyits an older version06:31
oscarcan someone help me find out what driver i am using for my wireless?06:31
BenWhiteyshoudln't the madwifi drivers work?06:31
Jack333can someoen tell me if i can change the default midi driver to timidity?06:32
ko12upti wouldnt trust it just see if you can find is if one thing isnt working try something else06:32
ko12uptoh im tired06:32
BenWhiteyis this multicast?06:32
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oscarno06:33
BenWhiteyi'm filtering multicast on my router, but i think thats ISP related06:33
BenWhiteyok06:33
BenWhiteyhmm06:34
BenWhiteyhow do i find my ip of my computer06:35
BenWhiteyi could try pinging it from my router06:35
oscarsudo ifconfig06:35
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BenWhiteywell, all my IP stuff for the thing is wrong06:36
BenWhitey169.*.*.*06:36
BenWhiteywrong mask06:36
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BenWhiteyany ideas?06:38
BenWhiteyhaha06:38
BenWhiteyhe just left06:38
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BenWhiteydidn't even say good bye06:38
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BenWhiteyhaha06:38
BenWhiteyhe gave up06:38
markeBen, how far are you from the router?06:39
BenWhiteyits down stairs?06:39
BenWhiteybut i have an ethernet cable06:39
BenWhiteywhy?06:39
Jack333isnt there anyway to change the default midi driver to use timidity?06:39
BenWhiteywant me to give it a good whack with a big stick06:39
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markeno - i was wondering about signal strength.06:40
BenWhiteyah06:40
BenWhiteyeh06:40
BenWhiteyi could try going downstiars06:40
BenWhiteyit says the signal strenght is good06:40
markei wonder if it would work if you took the laptop right over to the router....06:40
BenWhiteylike 2 and a half stars06:40
BenWhiteycan't hurt to try06:40
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marketake it downstairs just for grins and try again to connect06:40
BenWhiteyin wiundows i get "very good" or "exclelent" strength and its at 48mbps or 54mbps06:41
BenWhiteyok brb06:41
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BenWhiteynope06:44
BenWhiteydoesn't help06:44
BenWhiteywhat abou tthis06:44
BenWhiteyin K Network Manager06:44
BenWhiteyit has a thing which is "trusted wireless networks" and "restricted wireless networks"06:44
BenWhiteyi have no networks in either of them06:44
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BenWhiteymaybe thats the problem06:44
markedunno - maybe put your router in the trusted06:45
BenWhiteyi can't06:45
BenWhiteyi don't know how06:45
BenWhiteythe buttons are "ok" "cancel" and "remove item"06:45
markeoh -06:46
markereally odd that it won't grab an address - got another wifi card to try?06:46
BenWhiteynope06:47
BenWhiteyi'll try manually congiruing the address06:47
BenWhiteywhat do i put for domain?06:47
BenWhiteydo i put my router's ip?06:47
markerouter ip is the gateway06:47
eljefeleave domain blank06:47
BenWhiteyyeah06:48
BenWhiteyok06:48
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BenWhiteywhat about primay dns, should i grab those from my router?06:48
markeya06:48
markeor use your router as the DNS address es06:48
BenWhiteynope06:49
BenWhiteynothing06:49
markedamn06:49
markei'm at a loss right about now06:49
eljefewhat kind of wifi card is it?06:50
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markeAR5212 Atheros06:50
BenWhiteyatheros06:50
eljefeand its not autodetected?06:50
BenWhiteyit is autodetected06:50
eljefedoes it come up when you run 'lspci' ?06:50
BenWhiteyi just can't connect06:50
BenWhiteyyeah06:50
eljefeare you at a command prompt?06:51
BenWhiteysure06:51
eljefewhat is the result of ifconfig -a (is it wifi0 or eth0 or eth1 or ?)06:51
BenWhiteywant me to type out that line?06:51
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hendaushiya all06:52
eljefeheya06:52
BenWhiteywell06:52
hendauseljefe:  how r u06:52
BenWhiteynow there is all this stuff there06:52
BenWhiteyi donno06:52
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BenWhiteyi'll paste it and let you look06:52
khirrhow can i mount a iso?06:52
eljefeBenWhitey: of scroll up with a mouse (or with [shift] [page up] ) and find the words on the left, is there a wifi0 or eth0 or something?06:52
markehis card shows up at ath006:53
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BenWhiteyyah, ath006:53
eljefeok thanks :)06:53
BenWhiteybut ther eis wifi0 stuff also06:53
hendauscan anyone help me with program nokia 6230 , i want to transfer images06:53
marketypical for Atheros06:53
BenWhiteylol06:53
eljefemarke: did youse go through iwconfig ath0 -essid _____ ?06:53
khirr!iso06:53
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:53
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khirr!mount iso06:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mount iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:53
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BenWhiteynot -essid, ive only used essid06:54
eljefeok maybe thats it06:54
hitmanWilly!iso > khirr06:54
markei didn't - someone else might have - i don't remember06:54
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BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/lAlit394.html06:54
EtokuraWhere in my BIOS settings can I change the transition method of the hard drive06:54
hendaushelpers!!  can anyone help me with program nokia 6230 , i want to transfer images06:54
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khirrbut , where is the mountpoint06:55
eljefeso run 'sudo iwconfig ath0 essid Ben'sAccess'06:55
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/IAlit394.html06:55
hitmanWillyEtokura: depends on your bios06:55
BenWhiteyugh i cna't figure out what this letter is06:55
hitmanWillykhirr: wherever you want, more or less06:55
EtokuraI'm on a Dell06:55
EtokuraI can't find the option anywhere06:55
frank_looking for a rpm and tar program that converts them to deb packages?? i can remeber what its called?06:55
EtokuraI got that "Error loading operating system" message, and I';m trying to fix it06:55
hitmanWillywho was asking me about Dells earlier...:)06:55
khirruhmm06:55
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eljefekhirr: what do you mean, where is the mount point?06:55
khirrone example06:56
khirruhmm06:56
khirr /media06:56
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khirrhow can i d for that appear there?06:56
klobsterfrank: alien?06:56
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eljefeto mount an ISO, make a new directory anywhere (like /home/khirr/isomount) and then that can be your mount point06:56
eljefea mount point can be anywhere06:56
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frank_klo06:56
BenWhiteyifconfig -a ===> http://rafb.net/p/bJUwbP45.html06:56
eljefekhirr: mkdir /media/isomount06:56
frank_ok06:56
eljefethen use that as your mount point06:57
hitmanWillyEtokura: how many hdd's? just the one?06:57
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EtokuraYeah06:57
hitmanWillyEtokura: did grub install properly?06:57
khirrthnx06:57
eljefeBenWhitey: it says that you have an IP Address of 192.168.1.127, is it worng?06:57
EtokuraYeah06:57
frank_its in the synaptic packager right? using kunbuntu? so i must download it first correct??06:58
EtokuraI've had the kubuntu installation for a few months06:58
BenWhiteyno06:58
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BenWhiteyi think i manually configured it to that06:58
BenWhiteybut i can't ping my router06:58
eljefeah ok06:58
BenWhiteyor get on the web06:58
EtokuraI tried installing windows on a separate partition, then I got the error06:58
eljefeok then back at the command prompt type : 'sudo dhclient ath0'06:58
BenWhiteyeljefe: maybe i can't connect because its not on my "trusted" wireless networks06:58
hitmanWillyEtokura: the attempted win install probably wiped out grub06:58
BenWhiteydo you know how to get it there???06:59
hitmanWilly!grub | Etokura06:59
ubotuEtokura: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:59
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eljefeand then let me know if ifconfig -a gives a different IP for ath0.06:59
hitmanWillyEtokura: follow the link from ubotu, should show you how to fix it06:59
EtokuraI'll try that06:59
eljefeBenWhitey: I am sorry, I don't klnow how to get it there.  I've not actually used the KNetwork MAnagr for wifi06:59
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klobsterfrank: yup07:00
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eljefeBenWhitey: can you right-click an untrrusted network and change t to trusted?07:00
BenWhiteythere are no networks in ether07:00
eljefeBenWhitey: is your network locked with a password/passphrase/key ?07:00
BenWhiteynope07:01
BenWhiteyopen, no mac filtering07:01
BenWhiteyno encryptpion07:01
eljefeBenWhitey: are you sure that you can get a signal where you're at?07:01
BenWhiteyyup07:01
BenWhiteyi tried going downstairs07:01
Dr_willisdang it. got a sd memory card. that windows and linxu both are having a hard time reading.. tried writing stuff to it from windows and 'filled it up' havent been able to access it since07:01
BenWhiteyand i'm on wifi on this comptuer07:01
eljefeof what does sudo dhclient ath0 do?07:01
BenWhiteywith an older card and antenna07:01
Dr_williscant even fdisk -l the thing07:01
BenWhiteyi'll paste it in07:01
Dr_willisany ideas?07:01
eljefewhat does sudo dhclient wifi0 do? (wifi0 is also on your list of ifconfig -a)07:01
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eljefeDr_willis: sounds corrupted or dead to me07:02
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BenWhitey1sec07:03
Dr_williseljefe,  yea annoying. been using it all week.07:03
eljefeDr_willis: look into ddrescue or dd_rescue (diferent) if there is something that you need to recover07:03
Dr_williseljefe,  not really just videos for playint on my mnedia player07:03
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/fksIjC35.html07:03
eljefeBenWhitey: not sure if this is related, but my laptop cannot have two wifi signals going at once.  both are pcmcia cards.  i can plug both in, but only one actually does any of the work...07:04
BenWhiteyi only ahve one wifi card07:04
BenWhiteyi'm not sure why thre is a thing for wifi007:04
BenWhiteyit wasn't there before i did what that other guy told me to do07:04
BenWhiteyhe told me to install dhclient or something07:05
BenWhiteywifi0 can't connect07:05
BenWhiteyit also says "wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801"07:05
eljefedhclient is a good thing, its to get an ethernet address07:05
eljefeyes i'd say that seems to be an issue07:05
justin_If I use bittorrent for a while or if I transfer large files with sftp, the computer slows to a crawl and looses connection07:06
eljefeand when you run dhclient ath0 it actually calls wifi0 so those look to be the same07:06
BenWhiteyyes, i supose it does07:06
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eljefewhat happens if you pull out the card, wait a few seconds, put it back in, wait a few seconds, and then run 'dmesg' ? what are the last few lines of dmesg ? any errors there?07:07
BenWhiteynever done that07:07
BenWhiteyits on board07:07
BenWhiteybuilt in07:07
eljefeah07:07
BenWhiteyits like centrino or something07:08
eljefedo you know if you have the right drivers installed?07:08
BenWhiteyi'm using madwifi07:08
BenWhiteyi can scan07:08
BenWhiteyfor networks07:08
BenWhiteyand see them07:08
eljefeoh?07:08
BenWhiteyi just can't connect to them07:08
figneweljefe: I've come across the two wireless cards at once limitation too...07:09
eljefewhat is your network's name?07:09
BenWhiteyunique07:09
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fignewjustin_: put a limit the BT upload speed07:09
dsmith_in ordder for a partition to be functional it must be marked as active?07:09
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fignewBenWhitey: wifi0 is a virtual device07:10
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fignewuse ath0 instead07:10
BenWhiteyok07:10
BenWhiteyit doesn't help though, i still can't connect07:10
eljefeBenWhitey: try: 'sudo ifconfig ath0 up && sudo iwconfig ath0 essid unique && sudo dhclient ath0 '07:10
eljefe(cut and paste that)07:10
eljefe(no quotes)07:10
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BenWhiteylaptop is next to me07:11
eljefelol ok07:11
eljefeaah07:11
BenWhiteybut i'll type it out right07:11
BenWhiteyi'm a good typer07:11
eljefewell, type it i guess :)07:11
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justin_fignew: no bittorrent isn't the problem. I transfered a 700MB file using sftp and the computer still slowed. The mouse was jerking.07:11
BenWhiteyi plug in the ethernet to paste then unplug it to type the commands07:11
BenWhiteyi type it with the &&?07:11
fignew&& or ;07:11
defcon_im having problems with truecrypt in ubuntu, when I run some files off the truecrypt volume and then try and dismount it wont, is there any way at all the force dismount? or is there a better encryption product to use?07:12
eljefei just got into QuickSynergy, you can share a mouse and a keyboard with two totally different computers (like a linux laptop and windows desktop) and share their clipboard!  but both need a network connection ;07:12
defcon_i work in a hostile environment and need to force dismount07:12
fignewdefcon_: cd out of the dir?07:12
eljefeBenWhitey: the && means 'finish the first command then move to the next'07:12
BenWhiteythats nifty07:12
defcon_fignew, wont work for some reason07:13
BenWhiteyok, i'll paste it into rafb07:13
defcon_found a bug07:13
fdovingdefcon_: yes, 'umount -l /dev/device'07:13
fignewjustin_: the computer is slow _after_ you transfered the file? or during it07:13
eljefedefcon_: bug?  report it!07:13
defcon_umount works?07:13
defcon_i will07:13
defcon_;] 07:13
eljefecool07:13
fignewdefcon_: 1 sec07:14
defcon_ok07:14
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/hSrKs188.html07:14
justin_fignew: it seems to be after I transfer a few 100MB, at least for sftp. It happens about 45mins after I use bittorent07:15
defcon_fdoving, how do I find the device in dev which is my truecrypt file07:15
defcon_that mounted07:15
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fdovingdefcon_: you can use the file as an argument too, i guess.07:15
fignewdefcon_: fuser -u -m /mount/point07:15
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fignewthat'll tell you what's using the filesystem07:15
eljefeBenWhitey: is the laptop wired to the internet?07:16
defcon_ok07:16
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fignewand keeping you from unmounting it07:16
BenWhiteynot when i type the commands07:16
fdovingdefcon_: you can use the file or the mountpoint.07:16
BenWhiteyi unplug it to type the commands, then plug in the ethernet to paste it07:16
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defcon_fignew, what is fuser07:16
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fignewBenWhitey: what does iwconfig ath0 say ?07:17
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fignewthomas@ambient:~$ whatis fuser07:17
fignewfuser (1)            - identify processes using files or sockets07:17
defcon_./MOUNTDIR:             5966c(root)07:17
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defcon_fignew, so then how do I force the dismount07:18
defcon_kill the proc?07:18
fignewfind out what it is first ;)07:18
eljefecan you try this (note: we are TURNING OFF your wired connection; to turn it back on you plug in and type 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0' ) but try this first: 'sudo ifconfig eth0 down && sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1'07:18
defcon_5966c(root)07:18
fdovingdefcon_: didn't 'umount -l /mount/point' work?07:18
defcon_i'll try07:18
eljefeTHEN try : sudo dhclient aht0- '07:18
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/Cv60gZ79.html07:18
defcon_fdoving, nope07:19
eljefeTHEN try : sudo dhclient ath0' (no dash and spelled correctly)07:19
fdovingdefcon_: what does it say?07:19
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defcon_not mounted07:19
BenWhiteywait07:19
BenWhiteyso how do i turn off my wired connection?07:19
Moniker42hey, how do you load scripts in Konversation?07:19
defcon_yo07:19
defcon_it worked07:19
BenWhiteyunplug the wire?07:19
defcon_thankyou07:19
defcon_had to cd ..07:19
fignewBenWhitey: no encryption07:20
justin_fignew: I used sftp to transfer 2 700MB files from another computer to this one. When I got back to this computer it was already slow.07:20
fignew?07:20
BenWhiteyno encryption07:20
BenWhiteyno mac filtering07:20
BenWhiteyopen netowrk07:20
fignew[01:11]  <fignew> defcon_: cd out of the dir?07:20
fignew:P07:20
Moniker42BenWhitey: that would work07:20
eljefeto turn it off: sudo ifconfig eth0 down' and to turn it on 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0'07:20
Moniker42anyone know how to load scripts in Konversation?07:20
BenWhiteyok07:20
defcon_yo got another prob07:20
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defcon_truecrypt thinks its still  mounted07:21
BenWhiteythen ive been doing all of the commands with it "off" or unplugged07:21
defcon_root@ion:/pentest# truecrypt -l07:21
defcon_/dev/mapper/truecrypt0 //movie.avi07:21
eljefewhat i want you to do is: turn off the wired, add the gateway for your wireless router, try to get a newtowrk adress for your ath0; if all this fails, you'll turn on the eth0 again07:21
justin_fignew: I don't get this problem when I just web browse. It only happens when transfering files either with bittorrent of sftp.07:21
defcon_i did umount -l but now truecrypt thinks its still  mounted07:21
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BenWhiteykk07:21
eljefeoff and unplugged i guess :)  we want to try to force the ath0 to get an adddress07:21
fignewjustin_: no idea :/07:22
fignewcould be a driver program?07:22
fignewjustin_: what program are you using?07:22
defcon_brb07:22
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heyholmezhi07:23
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BenWhiteyi typed in: sudo eth0 down && sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 and i got this in response: "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable"07:23
justin_fignew: I have the problem using Azureus, KTorrent and ressently sftp.07:23
eljefehow about the same, but with 192.168.0.1 instead?07:23
BenWhiteythats not my router's address07:24
BenWhiteyits 192.168.1.107:24
BenWhiteynot 0.107:24
eljefeok :)07:24
fignewJustin, how's ram?07:24
heyholmezive got a 32bit copy of the latest kubuntu.  I have a 64bit hp laptop.  Should I get 64bit kubuntu, or would I be better off just installing 32bit07:24
hitmanWillyBenWhitey: does it sit on 1.0? linksys, right?07:24
fignewheyholmez: stick with 32 bit07:24
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BenWhiteyhitmanwilly: you mean my router? i'm not sure, its old07:24
BenWhiteyhitmanwilly: 2004 firmware i think07:24
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eljefenothing is x.x.x.007:24
Lynouredefcon_: isn't that to be expected? doesn't truecrypt use it's own commands for unmounting too07:24
BenWhiteyFirmware Version: v3.03.607:25
heyholmezis there any difference in performance>07:25
heyholmez?07:25
BenWhiteyguess not07:25
BenWhiteybut its not v5.007:25
eljefeBenWhitey: you may want to try joining /join #madwifi or /join #networking in IRC :(   I don't seem to be helping you07:25
BenWhiteyok07:26
BenWhiteyi tried madwifi earlier07:26
defcon_Lynoure, yea, but it wont force unmount with a process still running07:26
BenWhiteynobody really responded07:26
BenWhiteyi'll try networking tomorrow07:26
fignewBenWhitey: do your other PCs use DHCP?07:26
BenWhiteyi'm tired07:26
eljefeor, ask again, someone here may know better or may have just joined in07:26
defcon_id like to be able to --force it07:26
BenWhiteyno, but they could07:26
eljefeBenWhitey: me too07:26
BenWhiteyi'm using dchp right now on my wireless windows comptuer07:26
BenWhiteyi usually use static with ethernet07:26
defcon_Lynoure, u recommend something better than truecrypt?07:26
BenWhiteybut i unpluged the LAN so i could use it on my laptop07:26
BenWhiteymy router is a dchp server07:27
eljefeBenWhitey: you could try to install and use the gnome networkmanager07:27
figneweljefe: ???07:27
BenWhiteyi have knetworkmanager07:27
fignewthis is the Kubuntu channel :P07:27
BenWhiteykubuntu07:27
eljefei think Ubuntu gets more attention than the Kubuntu disto, it may have a better setup :(07:27
BenWhiteylol07:27
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Lynouredefcon_: you make a little script that kills the processes, and then unmounts it, but that could be damageprone...07:27
fignewBenWhitey: what does knetworkmanager do?07:27
BenWhiteynot sure07:27
fignewdoes it show the network?07:27
BenWhiteyit stopped working after somebody told me to do some stuff07:27
eljefefignew: i know, but you gotta try what may work!  i don't like getting the cananocal shaft either ;)07:28
defcon_any way to list processes by mount point?07:28
eljefeit stopped working?07:28
BenWhiteykidn of07:28
BenWhiteylike i go to Internet07:28
BenWhiteyand try to open it07:28
BenWhiteyand nothing comes up07:28
justin_fignew: I have 256MB of ram, and 512MB of swap. I can't remember what the ram usage is after it slows up.07:28
eljefe'internet' ?07:28
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eljefeyou mean, in the KMenu?  or a web browser?07:28
BenWhiteyInternet => KNetworkManager (Network Manager)07:29
fignewBenWhitey: does your wireless network show up on the list in knetworkmanager?07:29
eljefeah ok07:29
heyholmezwhats an adequate partition size for kubuntu? im going to use a diff partition for storage07:29
BenWhiteyi can't open it07:29
BenWhiteybut it used to07:29
fignewbut it shows up?07:29
eljefehow about in your system tray, by the clock?  is it there?  right click.07:29
fignewohh! you can't use knetworkmanager :P07:29
Lynouredefcon_: not knowing what you whole goal is, not really. Some people like encrypting whole home, but that does not give you the kind of deniability truecrypt can07:29
BenWhiteyok07:29
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eljefefignew: why not?07:29
eljefeBenWhitey: ok what?  its there?07:30
BenWhiteythere used to be the option to connect to wireless networks, but that went away when i stopped being able to open that07:30
BenWhiteyyeah its there07:30
BenWhiteyso now its like "KNetwork Manager"07:30
Captain_Haddockheyholmez: it's best to have separate partitions for /, /usr and storage.07:30
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eljefeso... i am guessing that somehow it doesn't see the wireless card, not sure what would have changed that tho07:30
Captain_Haddockheyholmez: For / 10 GB should be good.07:30
BenWhiteyWired Devices,, wired network is grayed out, Manual Configuration, Options =>, Help =>07:30
defcon_Lynoure, :)07:30
BenWhiteyme neither07:30
BenWhiteybit it happened before, i fixed it by installing kubuntu again07:31
BenWhitey**but07:31
eljefe:/07:31
BenWhiteyi might just loan my laptop to my friend who nkows linux07:31
BenWhiteyi'm helplsess in linux07:31
eljefehave you looked in the forums at all?07:31
BenWhiteyyeah07:31
eljefeyeah :(  that might be a good move i suppose07:32
BenWhiteyive posted once, nobody really responded07:32
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eljefemake him do it :) like people do to me ;)07:32
BenWhiteyand then i replied to another post saying i had the similar problem and we'll see what happens with that one07:32
eljefehave you read other people's comments/posts?07:32
fignewBenWhitey: close knetworkmanager and try07:32
BenWhiteyyes07:32
fignewmv ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc~07:32
eljefemm ok07:32
BenWhiteyive tried guides and stuff07:32
BenWhitey1sec, let me try changing my interfaces file07:32
BenWhiteymaybe that will change knetwork manager07:32
eljefedaaang, sounds like it might just not happen then, if you've tried a lot of things07:32
eljefesure, who knows.07:33
fignewBenWhitey: if you would be so kind as to paste your interfaces file :)07:33
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heyholmezthanks alot07:33
fignewBenWhitey: have you tried other WAPs?07:33
BenWhiteyfignew: no they are all encrypted07:33
BenWhiteymine is open07:33
BenWhiteythe rest are my neighbors, i could ask for the key, but then we'd hvae to go thru that whole thing07:34
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fignewBenWhitey: like at Starbucks or something ;)07:34
BenWhiteylol07:34
BenWhiteyno haven't tried that07:34
BenWhiteymy interfaces is the default07:34
BenWhiteyexcept that it has "wireless-essid unique" under "iface ath0 inet dhcp"07:35
sivajiis there any software to send message to mobile phone from computer07:35
Lynouresivaji: What kind of message?07:36
sivajitext message07:36
BenWhiteysign into aim with the phone then use aim to send it :)07:36
Lynouresivaji: like sms or just a message in text form?  there is bluetooth chat and OBEX...07:36
sivajisms07:36
BenWhiteyany ideas?07:37
fignewyea07:37
BenWhiteycool07:37
Lynouresivaji: there is smssend, and kannel, at least, depending on how large you want to go07:38
BenWhiteybrb, i need to grab some food to stay awake07:38
BenWhiteylol its 1:40 here07:38
BenWhiteyand i have to get up at like 8 or something07:38
Lynouresivaji: you can explore your options with   apt-cache search sms   and then  apt-cache show nameoftheprogram   for seeing more detail07:38
sivajiis it possible  send sms using kopete07:39
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kane_hey whats a good channel to ask a linux security related question?07:40
sivajiok thank u Lynoure07:40
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fignewBenWhitey: sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifconfig ath0 down; sudo ifconfig ath0 up; sudo iwconfig ath0 essid unique; sudo iwconfig ath0 ap any sudo ifconfig ath0 192.168.1.244; ping 192.168.1.107:40
fignew:)07:40
dsmith_hi, has anyone updated from 6.10 to 7.04?07:40
dsmith_without serious issues?07:40
eljefedsmith_: bad idea :(07:40
dsmith_thats! what I thought07:41
dsmith_heheh07:41
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dsmith_6.06 to 6.10 worked fine07:41
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eljefesivaji: in the USA, phone companies have email addresses for phones, like tombile is 5558702233@tmomail.net07:41
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figneweljefe: bad idea?07:41
eljefeTMobile, rather07:41
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fignewnot really, works fine, assuming you didn't install automatix or easyubuntu07:42
eljefedsmith_: well you can try it, but myne failed horribly.07:42
eljefeyes, i had automatix stuff in there07:42
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dsmith_I do have automatix07:43
dsmith_hmmmm07:43
BenWhiteyok07:43
BenWhiteyi'07:43
BenWhiteyi'm back07:43
eljefeyes?  yes?07:43
eljefeand?07:43
BenWhiteyi got food07:43
eljefelol07:43
BenWhiteylet me try those stuff you said07:43
eljefei need to sleep07:43
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eljefeso try it quick ;)07:43
eljefedsmith_: do you have your /home partition on another partition, or backed up, in case you need to reinstall?  if so, give it a try!07:44
dsmith_I have 3 full backups and one incremental07:44
eljefei mean, your /home directory on another partition?07:44
eljefeincluding all music, photos, etc?07:44
dsmith_I can backup /home by itself, but dont you need a few otheres?07:44
BenWhiteydid you mean: sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifconfig ath0 down; sudo ifconfig ath0 up; sudo iwconfig ath0 essid unique; sudo iwconfig ath0 ap any; sudo ifconfig ath0 192.168.1.244; ping 192.168.1.1 ???07:45
BenWhiteynotice the ; after any07:45
eljefewell if you end up reinstalling, it'll be a boring basic setup but nothing much can transfer, unless you put a lot of effort into cron or /etc/resolv.conf or somehting...07:45
eljefeBenWhitey: what about it?07:45
BenWhiteyhe left it out07:46
BenWhiteybefore07:46
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eljefe'access point = any access point'07:46
eljefeah07:46
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fignew'tis right07:46
wolferineanyone use Crossover?07:47
BenWhiteyyou want the paste?07:47
BenWhitey"destination host unreachable"07:47
fignewugh07:47
fignewpaste iwlist ath007:47
BenWhiteykk07:48
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BenWhiteyiwlist: unknown command 'ath0'07:48
BenWhiteyiflist?07:48
fignewsorry07:48
fignewpaste iwlist ath0 ap07:48
BenWhiteyah07:48
BenWhiteylol07:50
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BenWhiteyi need to enable my eth007:50
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eljefeBenWhitey: i gotta sleep, luck to you07:50
BenWhiteythanks07:50
BenWhiteycya later07:50
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eljefesorry that i wan unable to solve it; good luck fignew07:51
BenWhiteynp07:51
BenWhiteyno offense fignew, but i don't think you'll be able to fix it either07:51
pulaskihello07:51
BenWhiteyive been trying to fix this sicne i got my laptop on monday lol07:51
fignewI know07:51
BenWhiteylol07:52
fignewI think it's yout Wireless accesspoint07:52
BenWhiteyhow do i enable eth007:52
fignewsudo ifup eth007:52
BenWhiteysudo ifconfig ath0 up07:52
BenWhiteyok07:52
eljefesudo ifconfig eth up07:52
BenWhiteyit says "ifup: interface is already configured"07:52
eljefe\eth007:52
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eljefesudo ifconfig eth0 up07:53
eljefeok i'm done! lol07:53
BenWhiteyok  cya later07:53
BenWhiteyok its still disabled07:53
pulaskiI'm editing apache2.conf on my feisty fawn distro.  I've used adept to grab the libapache2-mod which provides the php5 module for apache2.  Will I need to put a stanza in apache2.conf to specifically load the php5_mod?07:54
fignewmeh07:54
BenWhiteyok07:55
BenWhiteyi fixed it07:55
BenWhiteylet me paste this ish07:55
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eljefeBenWhitey: try installing the program 'restricted-manager' and seeing what that does (it manages drivers)07:56
eljefeok NOW i am done07:56
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/0lZ30019.html07:56
BenWhiteydamn it07:56
fignewI have a atheros card too07:56
BenWhiteyhttp://rafb.net/p/JhPgoP94.html07:56
fignewrestricted-manager not needed (99% sure)07:56
fignewya, card is working07:57
BenWhiteyaaahh so you're an expert :))07:57
BenWhiteywant me to disable my router firewall?07:57
fignewoj07:57
fignewok07:57
BenWhiteyi'm not sure it will do anything07:57
fignewis your access point broadcasting ssid?07:57
BenWhiteyyeah07:58
fignewlook here07:58
fignewfrom earlier:07:58
fignewath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"unique"  Nickname:""07:58
fignew          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point: 00:06:25:F7:C8:6A07:58
fignewahh never mind07:58
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BenWhiteymy router has a differnt MAC for wired and wireless07:59
BenWhiteyshould i uncheck "filter multicast" on my router?08:00
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fignewdoubt it08:01
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BenWhiteyk08:01
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Etokura_Yeah?08:01
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fignewSorry BenWhitey, gotta go to bed08:05
fignewschool tomorrow08:05
BenWhiteyok08:05
BenWhiteysame here08:05
BenWhiteyhaha08:05
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BenWhiteybut no school for me, i'm done08:06
BenWhiteydo you have AIM or something?08:06
fignewI'm pretty sure it's your WAP08:06
fignewyep08:06
BenWhiteyso that we could continue later08:06
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fignew90% sure it's your router08:07
fignew/wireless access point08:07
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BenWhiteyyeah08:07
BenWhiteyi donno08:07
BenWhiteyworks in windows which is the weird thing08:08
BenWhiteylet me try trying off multicast08:08
fignewhmmmmm08:08
BenWhiteyi also turned off the firewall08:08
BenWhiteylets see if it makes a difference08:08
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BenWhiteyis that really our AIM? or is that a bot08:10
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BenWhiteyi think its a bot08:10
BenWhiteylol08:10
fignewlol08:11
BenWhiteyfunny though08:11
fignewmsg me :)08:11
BenWhiteywhere?08:11
BenWhiteyhere?08:11
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BenWhiteytomorrow? or that AIM you gave me08:11
fignewon AIM08:11
BenWhiteyi id08:11
fignewwait bot?08:11
BenWhiteylol08:11
BenWhiteyyah08:11
BenWhiteymsg me08:12
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fignewhmm?08:12
BenWhiteydid you get my PM in iRC?08:12
fignewno08:12
BenWhiteymm08:12
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BenWhiteyi'm not a registered nick08:12
BenWhiteythats why08:12
fignew:P08:12
BenWhiteyok08:12
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BenWhiteygo to channel of my name08:12
BenWhiteybenwhitey08:12
BenWhiteyi don't feel like registering08:13
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agadyis it possible for the power button to start shutdown immediately instead of presenting the shutdown dialog?08:28
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oteroI cant believe im actually on linux08:28
Admiral_Chicagoagady: the hardware one on the front of the case?08:29
agadyyes08:29
draremcongrats, otero08:29
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Admiral_Chicagowell yes, but it's not as neat. the shutdown dialogue does that in a clean manner08:30
MattParryHi, does anyone know how to upload their openPGP key to the ubuntu server?08:30
MattParryive tried gpg --send-key  but it is not working08:31
Admiral_ChicagoMattParry: on Launchpad.08:32
MattParryAdmiral_Chicago: yes sorry should have said that on Launchpad08:32
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Admiral_Chicagoyou upload it on LP, it send you a file, you decrypt that file and i think upload that one.08:32
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MattParryIve worked through the instructions on launchpad and now have a key fingerprint08:34
oterothanks08:34
MattParryAdmiral_Chicago: what do you mean LP?08:34
MattParrysorry lp = launchpad08:34
Admiral_Chicagoyes08:34
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Admiral_ChicagoMattParry: wait a second let me grab the wiki so we are on the same pafe08:35
Admiral_Chicagopage*08:35
MattParrythank you08:35
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MattParryi've done pgp --send-key08:35
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MattParryit does not give an error and just returns to the command prompt08:36
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bkyhi. i am having an xserver problem (i think)08:37
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Admiral_Chicagopgp?08:37
bkyi tried to run init 1 from my KDE console (that was a good way to do a quick 'reboot' on fedora) but it hung on that bootup-screen thing08:37
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MattParrysorry i cant type tonight! gpg08:37
Admiral_Chicagookay08:38
Admiral_Chicagowhat was your command?08:38
bkyi restarted my computer with the power button, and now when i try to login it just goes black and shows the nvidia logo again and goes back to the login screen08:38
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bkymine?08:38
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MattParrygpg --send-key08:39
Admiral_Chicagobky: sorry no that was MattParry08:39
bkyoh ok08:39
bentob0xnew Linux headers today, does it mean I need to re-install my nvidia drivers using the new headers?08:39
Admiral_Chicagobky: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a failsafe rerminal08:39
Admiral_Chicagobentob0x: yes08:39
bentob0xk thx08:39
bkyi did that, it didn't help08:39
Admiral_ChicagoMattParry: you need to do gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com D8FC66D208:40
bkystartx has some odd error about fonts but it doesn't sound crtical08:40
bkyi'm on the install CD now, so i can edit config files and such. i think it's stuck trying to go to single user mode08:40
Admiral_Chicagoreplace D8fc...with you key08:40
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MattParryAdmiral_Chicago: what does the D8FC66D2 mean?08:41
MattParryi see08:41
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MattParryAdmiral_Chicago: Thank you for that it seems to have sent the key08:42
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Admiral_ChicagoMattParry: great now you can add it to LP08:43
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Admiral_Chicagothe link on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto should help08:43
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MattParrythank you, ive just done that and now am going into my hotmail account08:45
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timthelionhey08:48
MattParryok I cant read the email in Hotmail :-(08:48
bentob0xok, I just reinstalled the nvidia drivers with the new kernel modules, what's the point of what I just did?08:48
bentob0xjust asking by curiosity ^^08:48
MattParrywhy is this so complicated to agree to the code of conduct?08:48
Admiral_Chicagoi don't know, i've wondered that too08:49
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Admiral_Chicagobentob0x: because the restricted drivers can't be shipped with the kernel but can be made to load in the kernel08:49
MattParrybrb08:50
KevinAlaskacan I agree to disagree? :)08:50
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Admiral_Chicagoabout the kernel?08:50
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RadiantFireno, KevinAlaska thats not allowed at all!08:54
RadiantFirej/k08:54
KevinAlaskaheh.. fine.. :P08:54
KevinAlaskaI promise to behave... and go play on windows.... 'not!'08:55
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KevinAlaskaEveryone needs to just calm down and stop all this typing.. I can't get a word in edge wise.. :)08:58
jewhow come when i run adept to install packages some are greyed out?08:58
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RadiantFirereally?08:58
RadiantFirethats odd, I don't think that is supposed to happen08:58
KevinAlaskathat happened to me as well.08:58
KevinAlaskaumm.. one sec.. I was given a command to fix something else but that (if I remember correctly) might have fixed it as well. let me fetch it.08:59
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jewskinm09:01
KevinAlaskadid your adept crash?09:01
jewskii fig it out09:01
KevinAlaskaif so this fixed some problems for me.. --->sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a09:01
KevinAlaskaoh. heh.. nm then. :)09:01
jewskii got a worse prob now09:01
KevinAlaskawhat was it?09:01
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jewskii didnt fetch updates09:01
jewskinew install09:01
jewskimy awful problem now is broadcom09:02
KevinAlaskabroadcom.. ISP?09:02
jewskiwireless09:02
jewskidmesg say bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.09:02
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KevinAlaskahumm.... I am to new to help much of anything... so many on and yet so few watching the channel.09:03
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jewskibrb09:04
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RadiantFirejewski: install bcm43xx-fwcutter and click yes when the dialog box comes up, then sudo rmmod bcm43xx && sudo modprobe bcm43xx09:06
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heyholmezanyidea why I cant connect to my wireless network with my broadcom wirelec nic09:11
heyholmezi installed fwcutter. i can see the network. it wont connect09:11
RadiantFireheyholmez: did you get the firmware too?09:11
heyholmezyeah09:11
RadiantFiredid you reload the bcm43xx module after you installed the firmware?09:12
heyholmezi restarted09:12
RadiantFirehave you tried using the terminal, sometimes the knetworkmanager flakes out09:12
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heyholmezwhat do i need to do09:13
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RadiantFireheyholmez: do you know what the interface is called, like eth0, wlan0?09:13
heyholmezya09:13
heyholmezeth09:13
heyholmez109:13
RadiantFireheyholmez: so, open a terminal and so sudo iwconfig <eth0> essid <your essid>09:13
RadiantFirethen sudo dhclient eht109:14
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heyholmezNo DHCPOFFERS received     No working leases in persistent database - sleeping09:15
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RadiantFireheyholmez: that might be on your router end?09:16
heyholmezdangit09:16
bkyok i tried a few more things09:16
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RadiantFireheyholmez: what does iwlist eth1 scan say the quality of the link is?09:16
bkykde comes up fine if i login as root09:16
heyholmez100/10009:16
bkyso it's something wrong with my user session i think. is there a way to reset that?09:16
RadiantFireahh, thats weird09:16
heyholmezprob stupid router09:16
heyholmezbrb09:16
heyholmezthanks for help09:17
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bkyi gotta get my KDE fixed, i have something important i have to do :-/09:18
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RadiantFirebky: what error do you get?09:18
bkyno crtical errors, one it says is not a problem and 3 that are about fonts and seem to not crash. the X server seems to come up (i get that odd black and white pattern and a mouse) but it goes right back to the console09:20
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schukekshallo, habemeiner meinung nach,  den tvbrowser erfolgreich auf meinem rechner installiert, aber wie bekomme ich jetzt das teil ans laufen ? ist nicht in den progs zu finden09:22
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heyholmezI dont know what the problem is. Cant be the router.  I tried disabling security.  I cant get a connection, same problem09:22
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RadiantFireschukeks: #kubuntu-de fur deutsche fragen09:23
schukekssorry09:24
agadybky: try deleting, or better yet, moving the .kde folder in your home folder somewhere else09:24
bkyok. i'll go try that. brb09:24
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clement_tinashe09:26
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bkyok i found out something new09:37
bkyit said when i tried to move that file that the device was full09:38
bkybut when i did it as sudo it worked09:38
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bkyso i ran mount09:38
bkyand it had my main drive as "rw,errors"09:38
thill2708what is the deal with reading sd cards on the laptop? I keep getting this in my dmesg: [152689.084000]  mmcblk0: error 1 sending read/write command09:38
bkydoes that mean the partition is currupted?09:38
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bkyreguardless the inability for my user to write to the drive is likely the cause of my login problem09:39
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RawSewageNvidia driver update today09:39
bkynow that i look the drive is full. :S09:39
agadydid it work bky?09:40
lenny_need some help!09:40
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bkyno09:40
agadyhmmm09:40
thill2708anybody know of a fix for reading sd cards in teh card reader?09:40
agadyare you sure there are no error messages?09:40
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bkyno but i think it's the drive now causing the problem (somehow)09:40
bkydoes "rw,errors[somethingelsehereiforger] " mean the partition is currupt?09:41
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agadywhen you try to startX?09:41
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bkyno, it says nothing then. but when i tried to move .kde i found that it said the device was full, so i looked at mount and it said that under my main drive09:42
bkynothing of interest that is09:42
KevinAlaskaI am looking for a command that searches all sub folders and deletes all files that end with -1.jpg, -2.jpg, -3.jpg etc.  The directory is /home/myname/Photos.  I am in need of this because I have just imported all photos from all the different years of back ups and when the file is a duplicate name it renames the new ones with the -1 etc before the .jpg extentsion.  Bad news is I was given this command over a week ago, good news is that my none09:42
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lenny_how to clean the "history" of the searches made ?? i mean, in K menu, search files/directories09:44
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agadybky: can you go to your home folder and then run cp -r .kde .kde.bak and post the output09:45
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MidMarkwhy I don't receive the new .16 kernel but only restricted, nvidia driver and libc dev?09:55
MidMarkyou have received new kernel via adept?09:56
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agadyi believe 2.6.20.15.14 is the altest kernel version midmark09:59
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MidMarkagady: not according to the last restricted modules that update manager want to install in my pc and according to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2007-May/000536.html10:06
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com13errorhi all10:12
com13errorhelp me about ATI on kubuntu.10:12
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agadymidmark: your right, I was looking at linux-image-generic which still depends on linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, which is probably why -16 isn't being installed.10:17
MidMarkagady: yes10:19
MidMarkcom13error`: !ask10:20
MidMark!ask10:20
MidMarkmmm10:20
com13error`my card x60010:21
com13error`i would like to install beryl packet.10:21
lenny__Hi. how can i clean the "history" of searches made in Kmenu>find files...?10:21
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MidMarkcom13error`: install them10:24
MidMarkwhat is the problem???10:24
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MidMarkcom13error`: if you don't explain what is your problem none can help you here10:25
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krautmoin10:26
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Jack3how can i add a program to be started at boot10:31
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agadylenny__10:33
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agadythe history is stored in /<home>/.kde/share/config/kfindrc where <home> is your home folder10:33
MidMarkJack3: put the link in .kde/Autostart10:35
MidMarkbut will starts only for your user10:36
MidMarkif it's a deamon then they way to do that is different10:36
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lenny__Thanks, agady!10:38
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agadyyou're welcome10:39
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crazy_busI'm trying t play a .mp4 file in kaffeine.  mp4's usually play in it but this one doesn't and comes up with this error.  xine: couldn't find demux for10:49
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mikkaelis it possible to get red of that 1 pixel line as shown in this screenshot: http://www.divshare.com/image/full/730647-81b10:50
mikkael*get rid10:50
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mike_i have installed the mplayer plugin for firefox; some wmv file play embeded in the browser, but others open a new window to play; is there a way th make there all play embeded in the browser?10:52
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mike_open in new windo as in they open the mplayer app to play10:53
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Bojemoinsen10:56
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kumamotodoes anyone know how to get the urls part of development application like bluefish to work10:57
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_6StringKng_anyway I can have it clear the text on connect?10:58
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pisqwhere do you mount a hard drive in a compaq presario box, mine is just dangling from its wires in bottom of box?11:06
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khaije1i'm looking to chart out the power usage and battery life for my laptop, any ideas?11:10
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_6StringKng_anyone know how to fix a mic ground issue?11:13
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hugolpHi11:16
hugolpwhy does kubuntu doesnt allow me to install gimp?11:16
nirmali have installed Kubuntu then ubuntu-desktop upon it11:16
TimGroewhat error comes up, hugolp ?11:16
hugolpTimGroe:  I go to install new program in the kde main menu and its just grey, it wont select11:17
hugolpI have been Ubuntu user, but I am new to kubuntu11:17
TimGroeclick "Run Command" and type in adept_manager11:17
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hugolpok, so I am in a similar synaptic thing from ubuntu11:18
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TimGroeyes :)11:19
TimGroethere you go!11:19
nirmali am getting both topbar and bottom bar of kde kicker in kde session11:19
BlindSIdeadept is nice11:19
TimGroeThat is the Kubuntu / KDE version11:19
TimGroe( of Synaptic )11:19
hugolpI had use it before11:19
nirmalhow do i fix my sessions11:20
hugolpwhen I search for gimp it only comes up libgtk1.211:20
RawSewageSystem Settings11:20
RawSewageSecond tab11:20
hugolpthats the graphics engine for gnome is it?11:20
TimGroenirmal: What's wrong with it ?11:20
TimGroeGTK is "Graphical Toolkit"11:20
nirmalwith gnome session its working fine11:20
BlindSIdeyeah gimp needs GTK11:20
hugolpits allredy installed so I guess is kde as well11:20
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nirmalbut when i choose kde session both the top bar and bottom kde=bar are also coming11:20
hugolpso why I cannot install gimp?11:21
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BlindSIdetry adding repositories11:21
TimGroehugolp: could you take a screenshot of any errors that you get?11:21
TimGroeor does it not show up at all?11:21
nirmalTimGroe: is it for me11:21
hugolpTimGroe:  I dont get any errors, when I go to Add program I go to graphics and then there is GIMP but its all grey and is not selectable11:21
TimGroenirmal: no :P11:22
TimGroewell, use adept_manager11:22
TimGroeand in search look for gimp11:22
TimGroeand install it there :)11:22
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TimGroejust right click on it and say "Request Install" and press "Apply"11:22
hugolpTimGroe:  when I go to adept_manager and search for GIMP I only get the libgtk1.2 wich is allredy installed11:23
hugolpI though something like gimp would be alredy installed in kubuntu, guess I am used to Ubuntu11:24
hugolpno one has installed GIMP or any other graphics program in kubuntu?11:24
TimGroeOK11:25
alexiconhi everyone11:25
TimGroegoto manage repositories11:25
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TimGroeand make sure they are all enabled11:25
alexiconis gimp not in the main repo??11:25
TimGroeyes.11:25
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alexicongrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr11:26
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alexiconi swear11:26
alexiconeverytime i tell gnome to NOT change my keyboard setting it does11:26
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sakabatoumajor kde update?11:26
alexicon... todays updates broke my desktop11:26
TimGroesabakas1: yes :)11:26
TimGroeKDE 3.5.711:26
alexiconkernel updates, and nvidia11:26
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nirmalTimGroe: do i need to reconfigure kde?11:27
sakabatoujust woke up, updating ;D11:27
hugolpTimGroe:  where are the repos list? I cant find the menu11:27
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TimGroenirmal: I didn't have to, not for the KDE 3.5.7 update11:27
gnomefreakhugolp: repos are kept in /etc/apt/sources.list11:28
TimGroehugolp: Adept --> Manage repositories11:28
Crossover-Holichiii alll11:28
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Crossover-Holiccan u help me11:29
TimGroeCrossover-Holic: depends, if you need psycological (mind my spelling)  I can't help you :P11:29
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Crossover-Holici can't using my adept manager for update11:30
TimGroehugolp: how is it going?11:31
TimGroeCrossover-Holic: trying to update to a new version of Ubuntu?11:31
hugolpI am editing manually sources.list cant find the repos graphic meju11:31
Crossover-Holicit say onli root privilage can modify this11:31
hugolpok, I see now11:31
hugolplinuxmce edited my source list to only one mirror and thats why I can get GIMP11:32
hugolpI cant get GIMP*11:32
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TimGroeCrossover-Holic: then you need to use sudo11:32
_4strOkdesu11:33
TimGroehugolp: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted11:33
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Crossover-Holicohh11:33
Crossover-Holici see11:33
hugolpthanks TimGroe11:33
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RawSewagehttp://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000870.html11:33
Crossover-Holichow about install nvidia driver11:34
Crossover-Holici cant resolve it11:34
TimGroeGoogle for a program called "envy"11:34
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hugolpTimGroe:  I though the nvidia driver was in the repos11:35
hugolpI installed it from the repos11:35
TimGroehugolp: it is, but Envy installs newer (beta) drivers, which are somewhat better then the ones in the (K)Ubuntu repos11:36
hugolpok11:36
hugolprepo's ones work fine for me11:36
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Crossover-Holicwhat is envy?11:36
jussi01!envy11:36
jussi01gah, bot is dead11:36
TimGroeit is a tool that enables easy install of nVidia / ATI drivers11:36
TimGroehttp://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html11:37
Crossover-Holicwhere can i downlaod it11:38
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TimGroehttp://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html11:38
jussi01Crossover-Holic: at that address above11:38
TimGroeSorry jussi01 :P11:38
jussi01:P11:38
Crossover-Holici have finish to install Ragnarok but the graphic is very bad11:38
TimGroe[19:38:32]  <TimGroe> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html11:38
TimGroe[19:38:32]  <jussi01> Crossover-Holic: at that address above11:38
TimGroeGreat timing though!11:39
jussi01yeah, very good11:39
jussi01:P11:39
Crossover-Holicthank's bro11:39
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Crossover-Holicsomeone here using crossover11:40
TimGroeCrossover-Holic: make sure you select (one of) the last  option to remove nvidia drivers BEFORE you install them from Envy11:40
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TimGroe*also* make sure you do not restart the X server after uninstalling nVidia drivers11:40
TimGroeapart from that it's all good :)11:41
Crossover-Holicoc11:41
Crossover-Holicthis channel is very helpful11:41
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Crossover-HolicTimGroe: that's ok to install on kubuntu11:44
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TimGroeCrossover-Holic: Well, I have used it, and only had small issues on both 6.06 and 7.0411:45
TimGroe:)11:45
TimGroe* and 6.1011:45
Crossover-Holico11:45
TimGroeCrossover-Holic: it should work, it is written in Python :)11:47
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Crossover-HolicTimGroe:  the size of envy is 400 kb is that right11:50
TimGroeyes11:50
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Crossover-Holicsory if any wrong word11:50
Crossover-Holic:)11:50
TimGroeNo, it is OK :)11:50
Crossover-Holicits .deb format11:51
TimGroeYes11:52
Crossover-Holichow to install it11:52
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TimGroeyou need to right click on it11:52
Crossover-Holicand11:52
TimGroegoto Kubuntu Package Menu11:52
TimGroeand goto Install11:52
Crossover-Holicno need to kill kdm11:52
TimGroe:|11:52
TimGroeno you do not11:52
TimGroenot yet :P11:52
Crossover-Holicok11:53
Crossover-Holici'll try now11:53
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hugolpHI11:55
hugolpHi11:55
hugolpI solved the repos problem and I am installing gimp thanks11:55
TimGroehugolp: no problems11:55
TimGroe:)11:55
hugolpAnother thing: when I go into the kde desktop after writing the login and the pasword it ask me to enter the pasword for a sudo su command11:56
hugolpI just cancel because I dont know waht is it about11:56
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TimGroestrange.11:56
hugolphow can I look what its being loaded at start11:56
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RawSewageMaybe go to System Settings -> Advanced -> Sessions11:56
RawSewageand change it to Start with Empty Session11:57
TimGroein a konsole, type cd ~/.kde/Autostart/11:57
RawSewageWhich I think should be the default11:57
TimGroeand then " ls "11:57
phoenix__hi, i have ISDN ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISDN ) working (in terminal  pon/poff) can't get it working with kppp, my problem now is, that i can surf the internet with firefox but not with konqueror, konqueror open no websites11:58
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nirmalyour konqueror is not properly installed11:59
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klonj11:59
nirmalwas it working properly previously?11:59
phoenix__nirmal: konqueror is properly installed, if i go to a frined of mine and connect with dsl the konqueror work very well12:00
Crossover-HolicTimGroe: it's say error12:00
Crossover-Holicand i've already remove it12:01
TimGroeCrossover-Holic: did you do the force uninstall first?12:01
hugolpTimGroe:  I get only xhost doing ls at kde/autostart12:01
TimGroeand have you removed all the nvidia* packages from adept?12:01
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TimGroehugolp: :|12:01
Crossover-Holici've reinstall my kubuntu12:01
TimGroehugolp: maybe that causes it?12:01
Crossover-Holicand never install nvidia driver before12:02
hugolphave no idea what xhost is12:02
TimGroeOK, rm -rf xhost then :P12:02
hugolpmmmm12:02
hugolpI am not sure I want to do that12:02
hugolpIll google it first12:02
TimGroeCrossover-Holic: well, then make sure there is nothing starting with nvidia installed in adept12:02
hugolpthanks12:02
TimGroeOK :)12:02
Crossover-HolicTimGroe: i was reinstall my kubuntu and never install nvidia driver before12:03
Crossover-Holicohh12:03
Crossover-Holicok12:03
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Crossover-Holicapt-get remove envy12:04
Crossover-Holicis that ok12:04
TimGroeyes, it is :)12:04
TimGroebut ... don't you want to try it?12:04
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Crossover-Holictry what?12:05
TimGroetry Envy12:05
TimGroeafter you have removed all nvidia packages (if there are any)12:05
Crossover-Holicit's cant open12:05
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TimGroe:|12:05
TimGroeenvy -g or envy -t ?12:06
TimGroewon't open :S12:06
Crossover-Holicbut.. i've remove it12:06
TimGroeoh, dw then xD12:06
Crossover-Holici'll reinstall envy12:06
Crossover-Holicit's python need12:07
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Crossover-Holicit's need python12:08
TimGroeyes12:08
TimGroesudo apt-get python12:09
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Crossover-HolicTimGroe: how to show "show destop" icon in panel menu12:11
TimGroeright click on an empty spot12:12
TimGroeclick add aplet12:12
TimGroeand find "Show Desktop"12:12
TimGroeand press "ADD"12:12
ardchoilleCrossover-Holic: If you're like me and have no empty spaces on the panel, you can right-click on the kmenu button and choose "Panel Menu"12:13
Crossover-Holichehehe12:13
Crossover-Holicthank's man12:13
Crossover-Holicoh i see12:13
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Crossover-HolicTimGroe: when i using adept and search nvidia, nvidia kernel common is installed12:18
Crossover-Holicwhat should i do12:18
TimGroejust leave it :P12:18
Crossover-Holicno nedd to remove?12:18
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TimGroeno12:20
EtokuraDoes anyone here know much about python?12:21
ardchoilleCrossover-Holic: I have nvidia drivers working and I still have nvidia-kernel-common installed12:21
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martintHi to all, kubuntu7.04 AMD64. installed beryl, now (even I hecked everything out and uninstalled beryl and even dekorator) my comp is sloooow and beryl visual efects are still working. WHat can I do?12:40
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TimGroemartint: do you have an ATI / nVidia card?12:41
martintnvidia12:42
TimGroehmmm12:42
TimGroe** scratches head12:42
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martint:)12:43
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martintGforce5200 FX12:44
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wharf001Hi all12:46
wharf001I have kubuntu festy fawn thingy.12:47
wharf001how do i activate beryl12:47
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wharf001i installed it using package manager12:47
wharf001and the ati support thing12:47
wharf001not sure how to actualy tell it to start12:47
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martintWharf - DO NOT USE BERYL!!!!! (Unless you know what you are doing...) read the warnings about it in forum12:47
belfegorhello12:47
belfegormy firestarter could be the problem for not seeing any computer on my network?12:48
wharf001wel thats why i came here.12:48
Jucato!beryl | wharf00112:48
Jucatough ubotu's lagging again...12:48
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Jucatowharf001: there are links to guides in the topic of #ubuntu-effects12:48
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martintwharf -good luck, it does look very good, but it makes troubles.12:49
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wharf001ouch12:50
wharf001what kinda troubles?12:50
Crossover-HolicTimGroe: what now12:51
Crossover-HolicTimGroe: the envy is installed12:51
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martintcomputer goes slow (at least I've seen it in some possts in forum and ti happend to me)12:52
wharf001ouch lol12:52
martintBut for other portential problems you should chekc the forum...12:52
wharf001do you think kubunu screwed up by releasing it?12:52
wharf001hehe12:52
martintnop...12:53
martintIf it is a comp you experiment with , it is totaly worth playing with . if you work with the comp , dont try it12:53
wharf001na its just to mess with12:54
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wharf001making a new tower tomorow :D12:54
martintgood :b, then tryt it, its very nice12:54
wharf001whats annoying is, i have install the effects..12:54
wharf001yet12:54
wharf001nothings changed.12:54
wharf001lol12:54
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martint??12:55
wharf001i mean12:55
wharf001you know pakcage manager12:55
wharf001i installed ati support and desktop effects12:55
wharf001closed it12:55
wharf001thats all i done12:55
logixoulguys, any clue as to why this is happening? http://www.warst.com/images/uploads/2007-05-25/yakbug6cde.png12:55
martintinteresting, Ive seen seom posts in forum about it, but for me it worked directly after installing through packman12:55
logixoulthe yakuake maintainer said it might be driver problems12:55
alexiconhey do any of you in kubuntu fiesty have a problem where your application window locks to the max size across one axis12:56
wharf001i'll brb12:56
martintgood luck again12:56
alexiconi have it on my desktop and not sure if its a nvidia twinview problem or gnome or what12:57
EtokuraDoes anyone here know much about python?12:57
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Crossover-holicTimGroe: u there01:03
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sorsisif i use adept, why doesn't it see all packages that apt-get and apt-cache sees?01:09
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jean-benoit!fr01:11
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jean-benoitfr!01:11
pag!!fr | jean-benoit01:11
jean-benoit!fr01:11
ubotujean-benoit: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:11
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lz1gjdi know its not the right place to ask but could anyone tell me how to make combine several pictures into one, each of the pictures is like 2500x2500 so its not easy to do this manually. is there a program that could do this ?01:13
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DJServersey\01:20
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dromerhey all, I just did a complete new install on my system using ."my-packages" and such. I copied my old /home dir to another disk (with cp -r) and now I want to replace my current /home with it. I already tried it from live cd, but apperantly it didn't work too well, I can't start kde anymore, I checked to chmod -R 766 my home dir, but I still can't startup kde01:25
dromerlz1gjd: you mean stitch htem together?01:26
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dromerlz1gjd: there are panorama tools for that, chechk out hugin01:26
lz1gjd01:26
lz1gjdoops, yes01:26
dromer!hugin01:26
lz1gjdokz, thx01:26
robbie!samba01:26
dromerlz1gjd: there are very good howto's out there, google for them01:26
robbie!kubuntu01:27
lz1gjdi'd like to create one huge map out of some smaller pieces.01:27
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dromerlz1gjd: I can't access my browser atm so I can't give you my links, but you can find them on google01:28
dromersearch for hugin panorama howto or something01:28
dromerlz1gjd: you stil need a program for stitching and stuff, look around :)01:28
robbiehello : just installed kubuntu - having problem connecting to samba share - getting timeout error within 3 sec -  any ideas? (works fine with fresh install of ubuntu)01:28
DJServersrobbie:  ubuntu is the same ass kubuntu so dont ask me :P01:30
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robbiesame same but different ....:)01:30
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DJServersyeah :P\01:31
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robbie!uboto01:31
DJServers!kubuntu01:32
robbiehey is that uboto on holiday?????01:32
DJServerswtf are the bots offline or something01:32
crimsunit's likely just having network issues.01:33
DJServersok01:33
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DJServersdus MIRC works on linux?01:34
DJServersi want to run a GTA:SA MTa Script on it01:34
DJServerssome one now?01:34
defcon_how do I change the priority of a process01:34
busfahrerI think it works with Wine01:34
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DJServersbusfahrer: where can i download that?01:34
defcon_!renice01:35
DJServers!mirc01:36
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Etokuraapt-get install wine01:37
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DJServersWhere can i download MIRC for Linux??????01:45
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TimGroeDJServers: the same place you download it for Windows :P01:45
TimGroethen you need to install Wine01:45
TimGroe:)01:45
DJServersWine?01:45
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DJServerswaht Wine01:45
TimGroeWine is not an emulator01:45
TimGroeit allows Windows apps to run on Linux01:46
DJServerswhat does wine?\01:46
TimGroenot all of them01:46
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TimGroebut some01:46
DJServerso ok01:46
hugolpHi01:46
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DJServerswhere cani download that? just look on goole?01:46
hugolpI am looking for a simple program to do grahpics, something like windows paint01:46
TimGroewine, get it from adept_manager01:46
|^RiaN^|TimGroe: its me crossover-holic01:47
TimGroeHidey Hoe01:47
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|^RiaN^|TimGroe: thank's man for the elvy01:47
|^RiaN^|upss01:47
|^RiaN^|TimGroe: thank's man for the envy01:47
TimGroeyou got it working?01:47
|^RiaN^|tess01:48
TimGroe\o/01:48
|^RiaN^|yess01:48
|^RiaN^|hehehe01:48
TimGroeshweeeeeeeeet01:48
TimGroexD01:48
|^RiaN^|:)01:48
TimGroeyou like it?01:48
|^RiaN^|veeryy01:48
TimGroe:)01:48
DJServersi cant find adept_manager in k menu where it stands?01:48
TimGroeK Menu --> System --> Adept Manager01:49
DJServerso lol01:49
DJServersi am blind :P\01:49
TimGroehmmmmmm01:49
TimGroe:01:49
TimGroe:P01:49
|^RiaN^|if no sudo apt-get install adept-manager01:49
DJServerslol01:49
|^RiaN^|hehehe01:49
DJServersloading01:49
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|^RiaN^|TimGroe: u ever play gunbound01:50
TimGroeonce01:50
TimGroeI work mostly on my own OS / Multimedia App these days |^RiaN^|01:50
TimGroe|^RiaN^|: kVric too now I see?01:50
|^RiaN^|gunbound it's a game01:50
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TimGroe*kVirc01:50
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TimGroeI know what it is :P01:50
|^RiaN^|;)01:51
TimGroedo you like it?01:51
|^RiaN^|i want to install it01:51
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DJServerswhat is the full name off wine?01:51
|^RiaN^|where to download GB01:51
TimGroeinstall what?01:51
TimGroeDJServers: wine01:51
TimGroe:P01:51
|^RiaN^|just wine01:51
TimGroethere is a repo you have to add01:51
PhinnFort!wine01:51
Doc_Brownhello. my kubuntu installation is running graphically slow. ie feels like no ati drivers are installed. is there some utility to install opengl or faster graphics drivers for some of the games?01:51
TimGroeto get the latest version01:51
PhinnFortdarn that bot01:52
|^RiaN^|TimGroe: is gunbound running with wine01:52
TimGroetes01:52
TimGroe* yes01:52
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PhinnFort!wine01:52
pybotutibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:52
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TimGroeDJServers: don't listen to that :P01:53
TimGroefollow http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb01:53
TimGroethen you get the latest version01:53
TimGroea new version is released ~ every 2 weeks, and each new version supports more stuff :)01:53
DJServersok01:53
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TimGroesorry PhinnFort, but I believe that a new Wine is a good Wine01:54
lz1gjdhow do you disable wine output in the konsole when you start an app, whats the command line switch?01:55
TimGroethe Wine in Kubuntu is about 8 version old IIRC01:55
PhinnFortI prefer some old wine;)01:55
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PhinnFortI use the wine from the wine headquarters myself01:55
TimGroeheh :)01:55
PhinnFortbut I just made my own ubotu replacement, that I wanted to try out;)01:55
TimGroeooooohhhhhhh01:55
PhinnFortsince ubotu has been going down lately01:55
TimGroe:)01:55
PhinnFort;)01:55
TimGroeadd it to #advantedge01:55
TimGroe:}01:56
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PhinnFort!hi01:56
pybotu Hi! Welcome to $chan!01:56
PhinnFortnot perfect, but works, until ubotu returns01:56
pybotu Hi! Welcome to $chan!01:56
TimGroeI like Supybot :P01:56
PhinnFortwell, I didn't care for running the whole shebang;)01:57
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PhinnFortpybotu is 67 lines, with comments and lots of whitespaces;)01:57
DJServersWhat has wine to do whit mysql?01:58
PhinnFort?01:58
robbieany one know how to get flash going on konqueror (youtube etc)?01:58
PhinnFortrobbie: 64-bit?01:58
PhinnFort!flash01:58
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pybotu To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:58
robbie32 bit01:59
PhinnFortrobbie: look at that link then01:59
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TimGroeDJServers: how is Wine comming along?02:01
robbiePhinnFort : thanks - it going now :)\02:02
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DJServersits installed02:02
DJServersnow downloading mirc02:02
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|^RiaN^|TimGroe: u know what software to use for billing02:03
|^RiaN^|i have cyber cafe02:03
TimGroe|^RiaN^|: ummm02:03
TimGroenot off the top of my head :(02:03
TimGroesorry :(02:03
TimGroeGoogle around a little?02:04
|^RiaN^|i see02:04
TimGroeDo a seach in Adept?02:04
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|^RiaN^|it's not there02:04
TimGroeyeah, so I see02:04
TimGroedunno02:04
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TimGroessorry02:04
DJServerswhere the hell can i juse wine now?02:04
TimGroeyes :)02:05
TimGroeright click any exe and say "Open with wine"02:05
|^RiaN^|i've looking every website with it02:05
azaghalHello. Can someone tell me how does (K)Ubuntu's kernel achieve ulimit -l unlimited for regular users?02:05
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DJServersopen whit wine file?\02:06
TimGroeyes02:06
DJServersey it works!02:06
DJServersi luf you :P\02:06
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|^RiaN^|TimGroe: how to create user like "guest" in windows02:07
DJServerswhaha :P02:07
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TimGroe|^RiaN^|: just create a new user02:07
|^RiaN^|i;ve create it02:07
TimGroeand dont put him in sudoers02:07
TimGroein /etc/sudoers02:07
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|^RiaN^|but everytime they want to use they removeable disk it's cant mount02:08
DJServersTimGroe i have installed it now but how to run it?02:08
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TimGroeI have a "Windows Programs" menu here :S02:08
DJServers? where ?02:08
TimGroeDJServers: in K02:09
glennHi there. Anyone know of a way to see a files creation time? Not modified! For finding out when i.e. a logg file was started (created), where the modified time would alwasy be NOW as it is continously written to...02:09
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DJServersnothin stands there02:09
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DJServersthere is one on the desktop02:09
glennman ls doesn't say anything about it (Creating time)...02:09
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DJServersthat the prog but when i klik on it it ask for a program to run it whit02:09
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TimGroewell, in a Konsole, type wine C:/programs file/<name>/my.exe xD02:09
|^RiaN^|TimGroe: can Gunbound running with crossover02:09
sobersabrehi guys.02:10
TimGroe|^RiaN^| Dunno02:10
sobersabreis there a fax application for ubuntu/kubuntu ?02:10
TimGroehave not used CXOffice in YEARS02:10
slopi installed ubuntustudio, and now when i reboot, i get a gnarly blue screen that tells me x cannot start...but if i choose the regular kernel in grub (not the low latency one for ubuntustudio), it works fine...any ideas?02:10
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sobersabreI need to receive and send faxes.02:10
sobersabreif possible02:10
TimGroe(ie, 3 months(02:10
|^RiaN^|im using crossover pro 602:10
TimGroesobersabre: efax good for you//02:11
DJServersTimGroe:  what do i typ in the place of <name> : C:/programs file/<name>/my.exe02:11
TimGroethe directory and file name of the installed app02:11
TimGroefrom the installer :)02:11
DJServersand where can i see that :p02:12
|^RiaN^|TimGroe: how to configure LAN connection on damn small linux02:12
TimGroeIn the KDE run window, type ~/.wine/drive_c02:12
TimGroe|^RiaN^|: #dsl ?02:12
|^RiaN^|yess02:12
TimGroe|^RiaN^|: #damnsmalllinux ?02:12
TimGroe#completelyofftopicthisisubuntunotdsl ?02:12
|^RiaN^|im using dsl on my workstation02:13
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Jucato|^RiaN^|: please try to ask in DSL's channel or forum. this channel is for Kubuntu. thanks02:13
lz1gjdis there a way to install a fully functional kubuntu on on an usb stick , like being able to install additional programs later and saving settings02:14
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lz1gjdmaybe normal install should work but mine usb stick is 2 gb and a normal installation takes about 1.8gb02:14
sobersabreTimGroe: thanks! have you actually used it ?02:14
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TimGroesobersabre: I use a real fax machine now, but I used to :)02:14
sobersabreTimGroe: do fax machine fax filtering ?02:15
DJServersit doenst work! grrrr02:15
TimGroesobersabre: say that in english :P02:15
|^RiaN^|TimGroe: how to install java with format .bin02:15
DJServershere it is located: /home/frank/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/General Use Scripts            but what do i type to start?02:15
TimGroeDJServers: file name too :)02:16
sobersabrecan one configure a fax machine to filter which faxes to RCV and which not to RCV ?02:16
TimGroe|^RiaN^|: say chmod +x <file name>02:16
sobersabreTimGroe: by CallerID, e.g.02:16
TimGroeand then ./<file name>02:16
|^RiaN^|DJS02:16
DJServerslike this? /home/frank/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/General Use Scripts/mirc.exe02:16
TimGroesobersabre: I do not know02:16
TimGroebut it could save faxes :P02:16
DJServerso just: ./mirc.exe02:16
|^RiaN^|DJServers: using a konsole02:16
DJServersyeah02:16
|^RiaN^|go to the program direktory02:16
DJServerswhat?02:17
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TimGroeMP02:17
TimGroe* NO02:17
sobersabreTimGroe: ok, anyway, With efax will I be getting all the faxes as files, and will be able to decide which one to print ?02:17
DJServersdirektory?02:17
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TimGroewine "c:/Program Files/General Use Scripts/mirc.exe"02:17
TimGroeyeah02:17
TimGroesobersabre: yeah02:17
saurushi02:17
|^RiaN^|DJServers: example mirc go to the dir and type wine mirc.exe02:17
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TimGroe|^RiaN^|: no :P02:17
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DJServersTimGroe:  i luf you again :P02:17
|^RiaN^|:)02:17
TimGroefull path is better02:18
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|^RiaN^|ok02:18
|^RiaN^|i see02:18
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TimGroesorry |^RiaN^| :P02:18
|^RiaN^|it's okay02:18
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DJServersTimGroe:  i luf you so  much :P lol02:19
|^RiaN^|hieheiei02:19
TimGroeawwwwwww02:19
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TimGroeDJServers: thanks :)02:19
TimGroePass it on02:19
TimGroe(the help, not the love)02:19
Jucatolz1gjd: maybe this is what you're looking for? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent02:19
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Etokura!kdm02:20
ubotwokdm - X display manager for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information02:20
pybotuTerm not found.02:20
lz1gjdJucato: thx02:20
EtokuraHow do I set kdm as the default display manager?02:20
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DJServersyeah i am connected to my server02:20
TimGroeEtokura: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm --force02:21
TimGroeand select kdm02:21
TimGroe( in a konsole )02:21
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EtokuraIs there much of a difference?02:22
TimGroenot really02:22
|^RiaN^|TimGroe: how to install java with format .bin02:22
TimGroe|^RiaN^|:  I told you up there ^^^^^^^^02:22
|^RiaN^|lol02:22
|^RiaN^|ive miss it02:23
Jucato!java02:23
ubotwoTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:23
Jucato(there's no need to use the .bin installer02:23
|^RiaN^|ive download the .bin format02:24
|^RiaN^|now i'll go to install it02:24
Jucatowhen you could have just easily installed it from Add/Remove or Adept Manager :)02:24
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Etokurang kdm02:29
EtokuraI won't be using kdm02:29
TimGroeng ?02:29
EtokuraIt lagged and cut me off02:30
TimGroe:S02:30
TimGroedamn02:30
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EtokuraWhen I boot with kdm it gives me a black screen with a small white terminal02:30
EtokuraNo GUI02:31
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TimGroe:|02:31
TimGroebugger02:31
tom_hi all how do i check if my cpu is 64bit capable?02:31
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TimGroetom_: how old is it, what is it's model?02:32
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tom_its a core duo02:32
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TimGroewhat number?02:32
tom_T225002:32
TimGroe( I * think * all core duos are 64 bit )02:32
^RiaN^yes02:33
tom_hmmm is there much of a speed boost on 64 bit?02:33
^RiaN^all core duo02:33
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tom_should i take the leap :P ?02:33
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TimGroetom_: not really, IN MY opionion02:34
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TimGroealot of apps need work to run in a 64 bit environment02:34
TimGroelike Flash02:34
tom_kk, i mite download th live cd and have a look02:34
david2what's the users trash folder for kde?02:34
tom_yea i heard about installing 32 bit firefox02:34
david2is is ~/.trash02:34
TimGroedavid2: ~/.Trash02:34
TimGroe:)02:34
david2Cool02:34
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TimGroetom_: yeah, but 32bit firefox needs 32bit Linux libraries :P02:35
david2I want to run konqueror as root for simplicities sake02:35
TimGroewhich means you do not gain all that much02:35
tom_but any open source software should run fine on 64 bit as good as 32 yes?02:35
david2but I want to make it look different so I deffinately know I have root privs02:35
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tom_or better02:35
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TimGroeno, some still do not run good on 64 bit yet02:35
TimGroemost do02:35
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tom_oh kk thanks, im probly best just downloading the live and having a look lol02:36
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brandonhow do u install programs like adobe flash player?02:37
crimsuninstall flashplugin-nonfree02:38
crimsun(multiverse)02:38
lz1gjdyou could use automatix too02:38
lz1gjdits a great script02:38
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lz1gjd!automatix02:38
brandonwhenever i try to download it in kubuntu it wont open up02:38
ubotwoAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:38
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dakhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox02:39
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lz1gjdwhat the ?02:39
dak;)02:39
lz1gjdwhy is that ? ive never had any problems with automatix02:39
Jucato!worksforme02:39
ubotwoCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.02:39
dakwhy install that 3rd party app when all you need to do is edit 1 line and run apt or a apt front end02:40
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Jucatoactually on feisty, you don't need to edit anything02:40
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brandonam i supposed to downloa dflash as a tar.gz.?02:42
dakbrandon: you have x86 right ?02:42
brandon?02:43
brandondunno02:43
dakodds are you do02:43
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dakuname -a02:43
brandonwhats x86?02:44
dakwill tell ya02:44
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lz1gjdis there any chance that anything fails if i install a more suitable kernel for my cpu (athlon64) non 64bit, will i need to do anything other than recompiling my graphic driver ?02:44
dakarchitecture of your processer02:44
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brandonits amd 6402:44
daklz1gjd: like from scratch ?02:44
brandonyea02:44
SlimeyPetelz1gjd: you mean, just swap a 64-bit kernel for a non-64 one? Your system will die.02:44
lz1gjdnot really, use one from the repositories02:44
dakit is brandon ?02:44
dakhere02:44
lz1gjdnonono02:45
dakhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20253702:45
dakread that02:45
SlimeyPetelz1gjd: all the software in your system has been compiled for 64 bit02:45
lz1gjdsri if i expressed myself in a wrong way02:45
brandonty02:45
lz1gjdright now im using i386 version of kubuntu on an athlon 64 bit system, i dont want to switch to amd64 kernel02:45
SlimeyPetelz1gjd: oh, right. Yeah, it should work OK.02:46
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lz1gjdjust use one thats a bit better for this cpu architecure,02:46
dakit wont compile to 64 bit02:46
Jucato!64bit02:46
ubotwoAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.02:46
lz1gjdthere's amd k7 intel i68602:46
dakyour system is 32 bit02:46
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lz1gjdshould work better i think02:46
dakthats 32bit02:46
SlimeyPetedak: he says "I don't want to switch to amd64 kernel"02:46
SlimeyPeteso 32bit is fine.02:46
dakyou can still have it be a amd64 setting in the kernel and i bet it compiles 32bit02:46
dakyour libs and every thing is 32bit02:47
dakx86*02:47
dakso02:47
david2you lied02:47
SlimeyPetedak: he doesn't want 64-bit. He wants 32-bit, hence his clarification02:47
daki did ?02:47
david2it aint ~/.Trash02:47
dakbut cant you still pick amd64/core2 cpu in the kernel and it will still compile 32bit because his system is 32 bit?02:48
dakiv never tried it so02:48
dakbut have used diff archs02:48
dakdunno02:48
crimsunubotwo: 64bit =~ s/EMT64/EM64T/g02:48
ubotwocrimsun: Error: "64bit" is not a valid command.02:48
SlimeyPeteI dunno tbh.... but the k7 kernel should be fine02:48
LjLcrimsun, i'm taking note02:48
dakk7 is fine02:48
lz1gjdi dont really want to, i like my system the way it is, would just like to speed it up a bit (if possible of couse) with using a more suitable kernel for this kind of amd cpu but still 32bit02:48
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lz1gjdsri for the spam02:49
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dakcat /proc/cpuinfo02:49
daktell you what your cpu is...02:49
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dakbrandon you get that script working ?02:49
dakfor 32bit firefox02:49
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alexiconok that was weird!02:50
alexiconmy firefox suddenly changed02:50
alexiconmy theme is gone02:50
lz1gjdid like to know what happens to all modules you use when you switch to a different kernel, will alsa still work for example02:50
brandoni got firefox the problem is i want t oadd the following standalone flash player so i can go on youtube02:50
selolieBonjour!02:50
dakbrandon02:51
brandon?02:51
dakif you are running x64 kubuntu02:51
brandonyes02:51
dakyou need to use 32bit firefox for the flash to work02:51
brandonohh now u tell me02:51
dakwell02:51
daki said02:51
dakread the url02:51
daki pasted02:51
dakhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20253702:51
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dakdownload the script.02:51
dakread the few lines02:51
brandonok im downloading it02:52
daksudo it to run it02:52
dakwhen you are all done02:52
dakto start firefox 32 bit type firefox3202:52
brandonwhere is sudo?02:52
dakin console or run"02:53
dakor make a icon02:53
dakwhatever02:53
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seloliewho could be help me to use Konversation ? i have a problem to inter a new chan02:54
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brandonThe file http://home.comcast.net/~next/firefox32-2.0-ubuntu-amd64.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.02:55
brandonit said this?02:55
brandonafter downloading it02:55
daknever used it selolie02:55
dakuh02:55
daknevver seen that02:55
seloliei begin whis yes dak02:56
dakctrl+c it02:56
dakdel the debs in the f-base* dir02:56
dakand restart it02:56
dakor base-*/ dir02:57
dakwhatever it extracted into02:57
dakdid you get the right script for what ver of kubuntu you have ?02:57
dakim guessing fiesty but who knows02:57
seloliei have kde02:58
david2cool trash:/ works02:58
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robbieuboto02:59
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dakiv never used the program but whats your problem ?02:59
robbie!kubuntu03:00
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ubotwoKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE03:00
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robbie!samba03:00
ubotwosamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:00
seloliei try to enter a new canal other than ubuntu irc...03:00
Quetzlcoatlhow can i watch (in firefox) sites that uses wmedia player for streaming?03:01
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^RiaN^TimGroe: help mw03:01
^RiaN^TimGroe: help me03:01
TimGroe:S03:01
TimGroewith what?03:01
^RiaN^ym03:01
robbie!lost03:01
ubotwolost+found is where !fsck places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.03:01
TimGroeym ?03:01
^RiaN^yahoo messenger03:01
TimGroeaaahhh :)03:01
dakQuetzlcoatl: mplayer plugin03:01
TimGroeget pidgin or kopete :)03:01
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^RiaN^how can i get ym03:01
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seloliebut it can't connec because it din't know the canal what i want.... but i now the canal is good ...03:02
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^RiaN^there is ym for kubuntu03:02
dakkopete does yahoo aim msn and alot more03:02
dakits default installed i think03:02
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dakcheck under internet on the menu03:02
^RiaN^TimGroe: how about gyach03:02
dakor goto the yahoo site and download the yahoo client i guess ?03:02
dakder /03:03
TimGroedon't know it :S03:03
TimGroedak: that is like ... 4 years old :(03:03
^RiaN^o03:03
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^RiaN^i downlaod ym format deb03:03
^RiaN^but it's error03:03
dakwhat is tim?03:03
dakkopete ?03:03
daki dont use it so03:03
dakbut noticed it on the menubar after install03:04
dakgaim/pidgin does yahoo03:04
dakand aim03:04
^RiaN^people who coming in my cyber cafe they confuse to use kopete03:04
^RiaN^they alway ask 'YM'03:05
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dakwell i didntk now you had a cyber cafe man03:05
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^RiaN^:)03:06
dakso rename kopete to yahoo03:06
^RiaN^lol03:06
dakor use gaim03:06
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robbiewhat about gaim?03:06
ubuntu_anybody can help me?03:06
mika__selamlar03:06
dakmake a desktop back ground with instructions on it :p03:06
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^RiaN^gyach is good too03:06
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^RiaN^and this one is more difficult03:07
^RiaN^install a canon printer03:07
^RiaN^ip160003:07
^RiaN^uhuh03:07
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dakgoogle it man03:07
dakno different then what anyone does when they dont know what to do03:07
dakand read the docs03:07
dakcups03:07
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dakshould support it03:07
mika__pls visit and click google www.siyasisohbet.net03:08
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mika__pls visit and click google www.siyasisohbet.net03:08
mika__byeee03:08
Quetzlcoatldak where do i find mplyer plugin for firefox?03:08
dakgoogle03:08
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dak"mplyer plugin for firefox"03:08
^RiaN^Quetzlcoatl:  sudo apt-get install mplayer03:08
dakyeah maybe their is a package03:08
^RiaN^in terminal03:09
dakapt-cache search mplayer03:09
^RiaN^in konsole03:09
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dakyou need the plugin rain...03:10
dakanyway google03:10
dakwhere is your cafe rain ?03:10
^RiaN^dak:  how about radio software03:10
^RiaN^what is name03:10
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^RiaN^software for hear radio03:10
dakno clue03:10
dakfm radio ?03:10
dakno idea never had a fm card03:11
^RiaN^yes03:11
dakyou need a fm card03:11
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dakto listen to fm radio on your pc :p03:11
dakyou know that right ?03:11
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^RiaN^jukebox03:11
dakyou mean internet radio ?03:11
^RiaN^yes03:11
dakdude03:11
^RiaN^internet radio03:11
daki just asked03:11
^RiaN^hehehehe03:11
dakfm radio and you said yes03:12
^RiaN^sory man03:12
dakwhere are you from03:12
^RiaN^i mean internet radio03:12
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dakiv never used juke03:13
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daki may have03:13
dakbut03:13
dakwhile ago03:13
dakbeep media player has a last.fm03:13
^RiaN^what software do u use03:13
dakclient built into it03:13
dakbmpx - Beep Media Player eXperimental03:14
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Daisuke_Idoamarok.03:14
dakapt-get it03:14
dakamarok too ya03:14
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dakbmpx aka beep media player x does shoutcast and a few others03:14
kendeyhello. can somebody recommend good dock for KDE? :)03:15
^RiaN^ok03:15
Daisuke_Idokendey: if i said yes i'd be lying.  i haven'03:15
Daisuke_Idoerr...  haven't found a stable one that looks halfway decent yet03:15
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dakuse bmpx rain03:17
dakdoes last.fm does podcast does icecast and shoutcast03:17
dakand cd's03:17
dakmp303:17
dakect.03:17
^RiaN^thanks kad03:17
dakrain where are you from in the world where is this cafe man ?03:18
dakwhat country03:18
^RiaN^indonesia03:18
^RiaN^im indonesian03:18
dakyour time is off a bit man03:18
dakon your computer03:18
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dak09:20 [I]  CTCP TIME reply from ^RiaN^: Fri May 25 09:26:21 200703:18
dakthats eastern daylight time03:18
dakusa03:18
^RiaN^im a billing03:18
^RiaN^now 9.30 pm here03:18
dakwhere are you ?03:19
^RiaN^billing man03:19
dakwhere is that ?03:19
dakwhat state03:19
^RiaN^indonesia03:19
n6pfkFor some reason I am getting a segmentation fault when I start "evolution"?  Any news of this?03:19
^RiaN^manado03:19
dakwtf03:19
dakindonesia is on the other side of the world03:19
dakyour time on your computer is off03:19
^RiaN^what do u mean?03:20
daktype "date" into konsole03:20
dakis that the real time ?03:20
dakheh03:20
dakcuz i did /ctcp time on you03:20
^RiaN^Fri May 25 09:28:34 CIT 200703:20
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dakand its set to like 9:20 am03:20
dakyeah03:20
dakFri May 25 09:22:36 EDT 200703:20
dakwell03:21
dakis it 9:30am in indonesia ??03:21
daki dont think it can be03:21
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^RiaN^yes03:21
^RiaN^can be what03:21
dakrian what time is it ?03:21
dakwhat does your watch say03:21
dakon the clock on the weall03:21
dakwall*03:21
^RiaN^9:2903:21
dakhow in the fuck03:21
^RiaN^9:2903:22
LjL!ohmy03:22
ubotwoPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:22
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daksorry03:22
dakbut ubotw he is on the other side of the worl03:22
dakworld+ and at +7gmt03:22
^RiaN^dak what do u mean "how in the fuck"03:22
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dakJakarta, Java, Indonesia Current timeFriday, May 25, 2007 at 8:22:19 PM03:23
^RiaN^im in manado03:23
dakbut dude their are only 24 horus in a day...03:23
dakand03:23
sercikciao! c' qualcuno?03:23
dakyou are +7 gmt so thats 7+ hours a head of england03:23
^RiaN^manado like makassar03:23
dakyou cant be 9 in the morning03:23
kendeysercik: i don't speak your language :P03:23
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The_MachineLjL, are you there?  You were helping me yesterday with my new nvidia card that I was having (am having) problems with, and I wondered if you were available for a couple of minutes to help me clear up a couple of issues i'm having?03:24
Dr_willisits 9:30 here in Indiana :) about as far from Indonesia as one can get.03:24
serciksorry i have done a mistake!03:24
dakDr_willis: and im in nyc and it is 9:3003:24
^RiaN^Dr_willis: u india03:24
dakso how is it 9:30am also in indeonesa03:24
dak"??03:24
dakHAHA03:24
dakdude03:24
serciki thought to write in another channel03:24
robbie!adeptfix03:25
ubotwoIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:25
^RiaN^it's show in my wathc03:25
LjLThe_Machine: well, update me on the news. we were left at you trying to reboot and see if X started, i think03:25
sercikmy windows don't boot anymore and i need to save some files that i have on the windows desktop03:25
sercikhi LjL03:25
Dr_willisIndiana :)03:25
LjLsercik, mount and save from linux...?03:25
sercikthe problem is that files have spaces and strange characters!03:25
Dr_willisIndy 500 is this weekend.03:25
dakword03:25
sercikand linux say that can't  create files on destination03:25
LjLsercik: were the filenames in a language with accents, or non latin?03:26
daki love race cars03:26
sercikyes i think so03:26
kendeydak: i love it too ;p03:26
sercikand then there are files with long filenames and spaces03:26
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dak^RiaN^: lay off the crack man :/03:26
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^RiaN^what u mean03:27
sercikthere is the possibility to cut or simplify filenames during copy03:27
sercik??03:27
^RiaN^now 9:35 pm here03:27
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dakrian03:27
LjLsercik, Ubuntu tries to use UTF-8 as its character encoding by default, while Windows uses UTF-16 or something. or just ISO-something. i think that might be the issue. you need to know what the mount option is to explicitly use a given encoding, not sure i remember them myself03:27
dakyes but your computer time is 9:30 am not pm03:27
dakits 24 hour time03:27
^RiaN^really03:27
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kendeysercik: i'm not sure what you mean, but try wtire first letter of somebody's name and press tab03:27
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dakhow do you have a internet cafe using linux03:27
dak?03:27
dakim honestly worried03:28
dakfor you03:28
sercikso the solution could be mount destination partition with the correct utf?03:28
^RiaN^linux is free right03:28
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Dr_willisLinux is GPL'ed 'free' correct03:28
LjLsercik: with the correct encoding, not necessarily UTF-anything. you're italian, right? so those filenames probably just contained accented vowels and you were using Latin1 on windows?03:29
LjL!fre03:29
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/03:29
LjL!free03:29
ubotwofreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing03:29
The_MachineThanks LjL, i appreciate the help.  Well, i rebooted and I was still stuck in the same loop - where i was getting complaints about mismatched kernel and nvidia driver03:29
sercikyes i'm italian03:29
kendeybut most of computer users don't know about linux03:29
sercikdon't you tell me more about to do?03:29
sercikor give me a hint?03:29
The_Machineright now i'm doing pretty good though..03:29
kendeyfor some  pc users computer = MS Windows03:29
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LjLsercik, sure i will, i'm just trying to make sure we try the right options. as i said, i'm not sure i remember then right, so we'll have to do a couple attempts.03:30
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The_Machinei believe i have it working so that the 'nv' driver is being used by Kubuntu rather than the proprietary driver03:30
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sercikok thanks!!03:30
LjLsercik: try  mount /dev/whatever /media/whatever -o utf8  (first unmount it, if it's already mounted), and see what the filenames are like03:30
lvjiabin03:30
lvjiabin03:30
LjL!cn03:30
ubotwoFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk03:30
The_Machinebut i don't believe that the driver is working 100% correctly, as Beryl seems broken, and there are some other unusual glitches i'm seeing03:30
lvjiabinI have a problem03:30
lvjiabinyes03:31
The_Machine(glitches I did not experience thus far)03:31
lvjiabin?03:31
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serciki need to mount windows partition with that lines?03:31
LjLThe_Machine, the "nv" open source drivers will never let you use Beryl. it doesn't support 3D at all.03:31
dakanyone else worrid for ^RiaN^ ?03:31
The_MachineLjL, i was wondering if you could help me again try to remove whatever the nvidia.com drier installs03:31
dakyes its free rian03:31
LjLsercik: well, yes, but of course change /dev/whatever and /media/whatever into what is relevant ;)03:31
dakbbl rain need a pack of cigs03:31
The_Machineokay, then i'm not using the correct driver.  If i switch to the other (proprietary) driver, i can't even startx03:31
lvjiabinAnd is there any Chinese?03:31
LjLThe_Machine, i think we did that successfully yesterday... there must be other issues now03:31
sercik:)03:32
LjLThe_Machine:  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx 03:32
LjL!cn | lvjiabin03:32
ubotwolvjiabin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk03:32
The_MachineLjL - i was incorrect, we didn't.03:32
The_Machineokay, one moment.03:32
LjLThe_Machine: hm?03:32
^RiaN^dak: how to get bmpx03:32
LjL!info bmpx03:32
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/03:32
konrad1991plsudo apt-get install bmpx ??03:32
LjL!!info bmpx feisty03:32
ubotubmpx: Beep Media Player eXperimental. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.36.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3261 kB, installed size 8888 kB03:32
The_Machine  Installed: (none)03:32
The_Machine  Candidate: 1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.2803:32
The_Machine  Version table:03:32
The_Machine     1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28 003:32
The_Machine        500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages03:33
The_Machine     1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-15.20 003:33
The_Machine        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages03:33
The_Machine        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status03:33
The_Machinedammit, that didn't work right03:33
LjLThe_Machine, use the pastebin for that...03:33
The_Machinei'm sorry03:33
^RiaN^Couldn't find package bmpx03:33
The_MachineI would have - i thought i could /notice you03:33
The_Machinewon't do that anymore, sorry03:33
LjLThe_Machine, why isn't it installed? we reinstalled it yesterday03:33
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LjLThe_Machine: oh, wait though. there is another potential problem03:33
lvjiabinthank you03:34
The_Machinei have nvidia-glx-new installed03:34
The_MachineLjL, should i uninstall it and install nvidia-glx?03:34
LjLThe_Machine: the current candidate driver is for kernel 2.6.20-5-16, which was just released today, but we didn't get it updated yet (at least, i didn't)03:34
The_MachineLjL - I believe that is most of my problem :)03:34
LjLThe_Machine, let me reboot (since i didn't reboot after today's update) and see if my own driver is working first03:34
The_Machinethanks!03:34
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LjLThe_Machine: well, yesterday this couldn't have been the problem03:34
LjLbrb03:34
sercikLjL: it works! Thank you very much...03:34
The_MachineLjL - i had used the --update feature03:35
The_Machinebut perhaps i'm wrong03:35
LjLsercik: at first try, cool =)03:35
LjLThe_Machine: --update?03:35
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The_Machineoh, with the nvidia driver (from nvidia.com) if you run it with --update it downloads the newest from the nvidia ftp03:35
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The_Machinewhich was even newer than that from the nvidia site..  i could be way off on this.  heh.03:35
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The_Machineanyway.  :)03:36
LjLThe_Machine: oh, but did you do that before or after we talked?03:36
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The_MachineYes, i did that before we talked03:36
LjLok03:36
The_Machine(ever)03:36
The_MachineThanks for your help03:36
LjLrebooting, moment03:36
The_Machine:)03:36
The_Machineyep03:36
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sercikI have changed my motherboard and windows doesn't boot anymore but linux is working!03:38
konrad1991pli'm going out, see you later :) good bye everybody03:38
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sercikfinally i have received my asus a8n32-sli deluxe WOW03:39
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LjLthe_machine: it's still working for me, so that shouldn't be an issue. give me the output of  dpkg -l | grep nvidia  please03:40
DJServersHey i am back all03:41
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DJServershere it is like 30 Celsius hot dude :p03:41
aroo Is there any reason not to clear out /var/cache/apt/archives ? Mine's 500mb03:41
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The_Machineokay.  one moment!03:42
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palmerwhat game is good for kubuntu?03:43
wouterhhi, does anybody knows in which package I can find the dbus.mainloop.qt python package?03:43
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The_Machinepastebin is acting slow..  gr...03:43
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LjLThe_Machine: paste in privmsg if not too long03:44
PhinnFortaroo: sudo aptitude autoclean03:44
The_Machinek03:44
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PhinnFort!info nexuiz | palmer03:44
ubotwopalmer: nexuiz - A 3d network deathmatch game - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information03:44
DJServers!uboito03:44
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/03:44
PhinnFortdarn that fool03:44
DJServerswhoo[s03:44
The_Machinehttp://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=7936203:44
DJServerswhy is it now ubotwo?03:44
The_MachineLjL, there it is03:44
PhinnFortDJServers: ubotu is dead03:44
Dr_willisEgads!03:45
DJServersahh why i liked him :p03:45
uroshi all. when i log in and when i scan for plugins on konqueror I get a crash: "nsplugin crashed" and something with "sigsegv 11". I tried reinstalling the nsplugin package, but I get the same error. It is annoying - any ideas on how I could get rid of it?03:45
PhinnFortDJServers: I made a temporary replacement (pybotu), but someone wasn't satisified and made a better one, ubotwo03:45
DJServerso ok :P03:45
LjLPhinnFort, err, Ubotwo has been around for a couple of months actually :)03:45
PhinnFortoh?03:46
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Dr_willisin training? :)03:46
LjLPhinnFort, we've used it as a backup bot everytime ubotu went down for any reason03:46
PhinnFortwhen noone answered !'s some hours ago, I made my own bot join, and some time later I notice he was obsolete;)03:46
PhinnFortah, ok03:46
The_MachineLjL, http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=7936203:46
LjLThe_Machine, you seem to have nvidia-glx-new installed but not nvidia-glx, is that intentional?03:46
DJServersguys? i still forgot the unpack command in console can you say it one moere time :P03:47
PhinnForttar xzf03:47
PhinnFortor xjf03:47
DJServersthx :P03:47
LjLPhinnFort, well, other ops could have made ubotwo join, but they didn't remember they could :P03:47
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The_MachineLjL, i thought i was supposed to have new installed.  Should i go to nvidia-glx?  I don't know the difference..  I'm not really sure why "new" is there, either.03:47
PhinnFort;)03:48
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LjLThe_Machine: there are three drivers. nvidia-glx-legacy is for older nvidia cards. nvidia-glx works for most cards. nvidia-glx-new is a newer version (that also adds support for a couple of cards), but it wasn't made default because nvidia-glx is more tested03:48
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LjLThe_Machine: i have nvidia-glx installed, so i suggest you install it too, simply because i've never troubleshooted nvidia-glx-new. what is your card, though?03:49
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LjLPhinnFort: besides, ubotu's source code is available ;)03:49
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The_MachineLjL - interesting.  It is a GeForce 7300 GS03:49
LjL!hardware03:49
ubotwoFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:49
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LjLThe_Machine: let me make sure nvidia-glx is ok03:49
PhinnFortLjL: I know, but I couldn't set it up in under half an hour, so it was more efficient to make one myself;)03:49
The_MachineI'm fine with having the "not new" card as long as it works.  Another question - are you able to see everything in nvidia-settings?03:49
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PhinnFort(and it was fun)03:49
LjLThe_Machine, it should be ok.  sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx 03:51
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LjLThe_Machine: "everything" as in what?03:51
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The_Machinesorry, "many: menu settings.03:52
jcsalut03:52
The_Machineer, "many" rather than just seeing some "About" screen03:52
jcwho speak french ??03:52
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LjL!fr03:52
ubotwoAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:52
jcmerci03:52
LjLThe_Machine: err yeah, i've got X server information, X server display configuration, X screen 0 with lots of options, GPU 0...03:52
The_Machinecool03:53
The_Machinei'm going to do the other operation03:53
LjLThe_Machine: but from your pastebin, you don't even seem to have nvidia-settings *installed*...?03:53
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The_Machineheh.  That's because the proprietary nvidia-settings still exists maybe?  Odd.03:54
LjLThe_Machine: ah nevermind, i don't have it installed either, the nvidia-settings binary comes from nvidia-glx rather03:54
The_MachineLjL - yeah, that's what i thought!03:54
LjLThe_Machine: no it's just provided by nvidia-glx... though now i'm not sure what the nvidia-settings package is for =)03:54
The_Machineokay - reboot X or the whole OS?03:54
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LjLThe_Machine: try just X for a start. but enable nvidia instead of nv, first03:54
LjL(you know how to revert that if things go wrong, right?)03:54
LjLoh, nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx, mystery solved03:55
The_Machine(no) :)  When you say enable nvidia instead of nv, you mean in SYstem Settings/Display/etc?03:55
LjLThe_Machine: no, i mean in xorg.conf. or use  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , which is equivalent03:56
The_MachineI need to learn that.  Thanks - let me look.03:56
LjLThe_Machine: to revert it, if needed, just restore a backup of xorg.conf (which implies you should make one :P)03:56
The_Machinei have been making backups!03:56
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LjLThe_Machine:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup  makes a backup, and  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  restores it if you have no display03:56
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The_Machineheh03:57
The_Machinealmost what i've been doing03:57
The_Machine:D03:57
LjLThe_Machine: besides, i think that  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  makes a backup automatically03:57
LjLnot sure though03:57
LjLwhops03:58
LjLThe_Machine: sudo nvidia-xconfig03:58
LjLnot the one i gave you above03:58
LjLthat's deprecated03:58
vbgunzI have an interesting dilemma. everytime I enter/eject a CD, Memorystick, external harddisk, I get a popup prompting what I want to do *but* all users on other desktops also get these! it can get crazy if I mount 20+ things as when another user switches desktops, they 20+ dialogs?? this is an insane bug, is this addressed?03:58
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Dr_willisother desktops? you got 20+ people using remote desktops on 1 server?04:00
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TheCreationistWhat is the command to stop the X server?04:01
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Dr_willisstop or restart? :)04:01
TheCreationistX can't be running when I install the nvidia drivers.04:01
The_MachineLjL, so in xorg i change "device" from "nv" to "nvidia"?04:01
Dr_willis- /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:01
TheCreationistDr_willis: Thank you.04:01
vbgunzDr_willis: 2 users logged in. the first user mounts 20+ times (cds, etc), the second user when he switches to his desktop has 20+ dialogs asking what would you like to do with the mount04:01
LjLThe_Machine: yes, but just use  sudo nvidia-xconfig  instead04:01
Dr_willisTheCreationist,  when using the package maanger. i dident have to stop X.04:01
LjLvbgunz, i don't think i see that reported anywhere04:01
LjL!bugs04:01
ubotwoIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots04:01
The_Machineokay, done.04:02
Dr_willisvbgunz,  mounts as in sticks a usb thing in the drive?04:02
TheCreationistDr_willis: The repositories don't have an nvidia driver that supports hardware acceleration.04:02
LjLalthough, it sounds a bit like a "design bug"04:02
The_Machinei guess i restart X now.04:02
The_Machine:)04:02
The_Machinebrb!04:02
The_Machinehehe04:02
Dr_willisTheCreationist,  huh?04:02
TheCreationistDr_willis: I have to use the proprietary drivers.04:02
LjLThe_Machine: make sure you have irssi handy :)04:02
Dr_willisThe propiratay drivers are in the repos last i looked.04:02
The_Machine:D04:02
Dr_willis~nvidia04:02
Dr_willis!nvidia04:02
ubotwoTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:02
TheCreationistDr_willis: Hmm.. I couldn't find them.  nvidia-glx was the only driver I found.04:02
Dr_willis!info nvidia-glx04:02
ubotwonvidia-glx - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information04:02
Dr_willisthat is the Propitary driver I thought.04:03
vbgunzDr_willis: you get asked, what would you like to do? "open in Konqueror, do nothing, etc" the second user logged in also gets these but doesn't see them until they log in and I had an issue with over 20+ of these dialogs on the next users desktop :(04:03
TheCreationistDr_willis: I'm using Edgy if that makes a difference.04:03
Dr_willisvbgunz,  untill they log in? the 2nd user may not even be logged into the desktop and they get 'saved up' ?04:03
LjLTheCreationist, let me add myself to the choir of "yes, the proprietary drivers ARE in the repos"04:03
TheCreationistLjL: Well, they don't give me hardware acceleration.  Only the official nvidia drivers do... all my opengl apps crash with the drivers in the repos.04:04
vbgunzDr_willis: the user is logged in. we're just switching desktops. everytime I mount CD's etc, these are my CD's, etc *but* the second user ALSO gets these prompts... they should not get them but they do. unfortunately, I once seen 20+ of these dialogs when switching desktops :(04:04
LjLTheCreationist: and i suppose that, after installing nvidia-glx (and before trying the drivers from nvidia.com), you *had* followed the howto -- i.e. changed from "nv" to "nvidia" in your xorg.conf (or used  sudo nvidia-xconfig , same thing)04:05
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Dr_willisvbgunz,  testing that now.. I made a 2nd user. logged into them with Switchuser-StartNewSession04:06
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vbgunzDr_willis: awesome, tell me if you see what I am talking about :)04:06
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vbgunzmount a cd 3 times (more than once) in the first session, then switch to the second desktop and you'll have 3 prompts04:06
LjLvbgunz: if that's the case, file a bug and let dr_willis confirm it.04:06
Dr_willisvbgunz,  well initial test.. yes. thats how it works.. :) KDE poped up a dialog. gnome just auto-mounted and poped up a window.04:06
Dr_willisvbgunz,  its doing what its designed to do. :)  which user Should the thing be going to? heh04:07
Tobsanmy sound does not work :(04:07
Tobsani think i have the wrong drivers installed...04:07
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Tobsananyone who knows how to fix it?04:07
DJServersinstall new drivers04:08
DJServerst:P04:08
Dr_willisI dont see any 'fix' for it really.  the automounter is auto mounting and kde/gnome is seeing it. so only fix i can think of off hand wouldbe to disable the automounting of the removeable media04:08
LjLDr_willis: the one whose X is currently in the foreground, i'd say. but it's certainly something quite deeply rooted in the design of the whole multiuserness04:08
vbgunzDr_willis: if you mount a CD 3 times, or 3 different CD's, the next user gets 3 prompts in which only 1 or none will actually exist :(04:08
Dr_willisLjL,  right. but how can one even tell whichis in the forgound.04:08
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LjLDr_willis: if (this is the only X running) show_dialog; else { if (this X is in the foreground) show_dialog ; else shutup }04:09
LjLoh, i'm sure there has to be a way :)04:09
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awatsonLjL, are you there?04:09
Dr_willisvbgunz,  ok. how about this.. for a Single user logged in. I plug in the usb gizmo - it pops uop a dialog.. i let it alone.. I remove/replug it in again.. i get a 2nd dialog. :)04:09
awatson(this is The_Machine)04:09
Dr_willisand so on.04:09
LjLawatson: from irssi, i assume04:09
awatsonfrom bitchx..04:09
Dr_willis2 related issues here it seems. :) both result from trying to make things 'user friendly'04:09
awatsonclose enough (i forgot the name of irssi)04:09
LjLawatson: have you also tried rebooting or just restarting X?04:10
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awatsonrestarting X was successful - even beryl ran.04:10
awatsonTHis is after a reboot, which has been my chronic problem04:10
awatsonLjL - I can give you my error though!04:10
Dr_willisHmm.. if you had several users running gnome.. i wonder if they would allget a filemanager window with permissions for the device.04:10
TheCreationistLjL: Just to let you know, after following the nvidia how-to, my computer restarts with X crashing.  So yeah, I didn't ask how to install the drivers through the repos, but how to shutdown X, that's all.  Thanks for you help anyway.04:11
s330d3rhave a external drive that has ntfs but I cannot auto-connect it to my laptop... any ideas on how to get this working?04:11
LjLawatson: wait if you got X running with acceleration, why are you from bitchx?04:11
Tobsanis there a thing like windowsupdate for kubuntu?04:11
Tobsanlike drivers and stuff?04:11
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vbgunzDr_willis: hmm, I think no matter what, it should just automount without a prompt for every other user but the active user. in other words, if I am the active user I get the prompt *but* for any other user not currently active, it should be automounted and thats it :)04:11
vbgunzwhat do you think/04:11
LjLTobsan: .....:?04:11
Dr_willisTobsan,  havent noticed the update system icon at thebottomn left eh?04:11
TobsanDr_willis: yes i have04:11
LjLTobsan: ever noticed there is an icon that pops up when security updates or bugfixes are available?04:11
LjLthere's been ones right today04:11
Tobsanbut i have lost my sound drivers :(04:11
Tobsani have lost my sound drivers04:12
Tobsanand i cant seem to get them back :(04:12
Dr_willisvbgunz,  thats just it - what if i have 5 remote desktops all loggeded into the same linux box via xdmcp - they are all active.04:12
LjLwhat makes you say you've lost your sound drivers?04:12
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TobsanLjL: i have no sound in my system :/04:12
awatsonError:  API mismatch: the Nvidia kernel modele has the version 1.0.-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.04:12
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awatsonLjL - I restarted X after our last convo, and it was working (3d, the drivers, everything).  Did a reboot and x won't start -- with this error04:13
LjLawatson: that would have been before rebooting i suppose?04:13
LjLuh04:13
Dr_willisvbgunz,  looks like a 'user friendlyness' fighting with 'flexability of design' thing.  about the only thing i can think of wouldbe to disable automounting totally.04:13
vbgunzDr_willis: not sure about that, I am unfamiliar with it :( I just think this could be done better. I thought it was a bug but this is by design?04:13
^RiaN^awatson: don't u try using envy04:13
Tobsanand KMix doenst know i have a sound card either :(04:13
awatsonLjL, yes sir.04:13
awatsonRiaN - i won't, thanks04:13
LjLawatson: dpkg --get-selection | grep nvidia again please04:13
Dr_willisvbgunz,  the parts are acting as they are told. to give a better single-user-experience it seems.04:13
LjLawatson: (note you can use the "gpm" package to easily copy and paste from the console)04:13
awatsonLjL - do you know how i can do this command in bitchx04:13
LjLawatson: it's a shell command, you don't do it from inside bitchx. just switch to another terminal by pressing Alt+F204:14
LjLgo back with Alt+F104:14
awatsonor should i use irssi?04:14
Dr_willisvbgunz,  running a few vnc sessions also to see what happens. :)04:14
awatson(is it easier?)04:14
Dr_willisi perfer irssi to BitchX04:14
LjLawatson: dunno04:14
awatsonk04:14
TobsanLjL: any idea about how i can get them back?04:14
LjLTobsan: i don't know, did you originally install drivers for your soundcard "manually"?04:14
vbgunzDr_willis: I'd like to bring this up someplace for discussion, what would you recommend?04:15
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Tobsani did install new drivers, from Intel (as my soundcard is Intel) and then, sound was gone04:15
Tobsan:(04:15
Tobsanit did work before that, though04:15
LjLTobsan, installing third-party drivers is bound to get you into trouble when there are updates... i'm not too much of an expert on alsa and sound, though04:15
Tobsanis there a way to restore my driver?04:16
ahmedhii.. guys ,,, its ma first time to use linux and i still want my windows games- applications,, i tried using wine, crossover,and cedega,, but some apps-games failed to be emulated especially ones that uses directx any other good emulation softwares ???????????PLZ HELP04:16
LjLahmed: just dual boot Windows04:16
awatsonLjL, it's complaining about this command:  dpkg --get-selection | grep nvidia04:17
^RiaN^use vmware04:17
LjLawatson: selectionS04:17
awatson(and I don't know how i would be able to copy/paste the results)04:17
vbgunzahmed: yup, dual booting is about the only way to really get full Windows compatibility04:17
awatsonokay, one moment04:17
LjLawatson,  sudo apt-get install gpm , and then your mouse will work for copying and pasting04:17
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awatsonsweet :)04:17
LjLawatson: (click and drag to select & copy, then middle click to paste - NOT in the channel :P)04:17
ahmedvbgunz.. i heard abt xwine theyh say its works better, also some ppl suggested to use vmware or others to emulate windows os itself..04:17
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swhalenHello, can anyone halp me with KBFX?04:18
LjLahmed, vmware has some DirectX support now, it's still labelled as very experimental though. not sure how much it can do04:18
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LjLwhen i say DirectX i mean Direct3D04:18
^RiaN^but u maus have a big ram for vmware at least 1gb04:19
vbgunzahmed: I recommend VirtualBox over vmware as it is free and has chock more options *but* for gaming, I wouldn't recommend either one *but* only a dual boot system :(04:19
Dr_willisi had fewer issues with VMware compared to Virtualbox.04:19
Dr_willishad a lot of livecd's that dident work right with Virtualbox04:19
^RiaN^use the new vmware04:20
Dr_willisI agree - for games = dual boot04:20
vbgunzahmed: there is a trick that will get you into a Windows dual boot in seconds rather than minutes. rather than *reboot* simply hibernate *both* systems and upon awakening, you'll get grub to choose which system to go back too in seconds04:20
Dr_willisheh04:20
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ahmedhmm...04:20
ahmednot bad one04:20
Dr_williswindows hibernation always screwed up on me04:20
ahmedexactly04:20
ahmedthats wat always happens04:21
vbgunzDr_willis: I agree, VirtualBox and live cds always give me a kernel panic :(04:21
ahmedwindows hibernation kills04:21
Dr_williswindows always screwed up on me04:21
LjLDr_willis: weird, that's what *Ubuntu* hibernation does for me :P04:21
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awatsoni can't promise this paste isn't going to spill into the channel04:21
Dr_willisubuntu onmy laptop has decent suspend/hibernate now. :)04:21
Dr_willisi was suprised it actually worked.04:21
awatsonLjL, pasting now04:21
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awatsonnvidia-glx                                      install04:21
awatsonnvidia-glx-new                                  deinstall04:21
awatsonnvidia-kernel-common                            install04:21
awatsonnvidia-new-kernel-source                        install04:21
awatsonnvidia-settings                                 deinstall04:21
awatsonawatson@AlexKubuntu:~$04:21
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awatsoncrap04:21
LjLhm04:21
awatson:(04:21
LjLok, it's ok04:21
awatsoni got one line to ya!04:21
LjLactually, no :P04:21
LjLwhat was the line?04:22
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awatsonLjL, it was just the command04:22
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LjLok04:22
awatsonanyway.  WHat's my next move my friend?04:22
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Tobsanso is there no way i can restore my sound drivers?04:22
LjLawatson: thinking04:23
awatsonk :)04:23
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vbgunzTobsan: you know what your sound drivers are?04:23
Tobsanvbgunz: what do you mean?04:23
LjLawatson: i don't have nvidia-new-kernel-source installed... but i doubt that's an issue04:23
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vbgunzyou know how to install them using apt-get?04:23
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Tobsani installed new drivers from Intel (matching my soundcard it said) but the sound stopped working after that04:23
awatsonLjL - i don't think so either.  i'll uninstall it anyway.04:23
Tobsanvbgunz: so i want to get back the sound drivers i had before04:24
ahmed_ guys any one used virtual box be4 ??04:24
Tobsandefault or whatever they are04:24
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vbgunzahmed: i use it, it's fine for running Windows XP on my end, if not great04:24
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vbgunzbut running live cd's is a problem until the next version04:25
vbgunzTobsan: sorry, I don't know how to work with sound, I thought you knew how to apt-get your drivers, I would have shown you how to reinstall04:25
Tobsancan i find the name of them somewhere so that i can apt-get them?04:26
awatsonLjL, I know how i can get back into X, but it won't help me fix my problem.04:26
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LjLawatson: i understand that04:26
awatsonLjL, if i sudo sh NVIDIAdrivername.sh, reinstall the nvidia driver..  etc., i can get back in (that's what i was doing before when i was stuck unable to get into X)04:26
vbgunzTobsan: not really :( How about "uninstalling" the intel drivers you got?04:26
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LjLawatson: i just don't know why your system thinks you still have the newer mismatching version of the module04:26
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Tobsanvbgunz: now do i do that?04:27
LjLawatson: leave nvidia alone, actually try debsums again04:27
LjLawatson: sudo debsums | grep -v OK04:27
vbgunzTobsan: that is probably in the intel readme04:27
Tobsanoh04:27
vbgunzyou got a .run file?04:27
Tobsanbrb :)04:27
Tobsandont think so04:27
vbgunzyeah check the readme :)04:27
awatsonit's running04:28
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awatsoni'll paste the results in a msg to you04:28
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LjLawatson: try to make that a message, yes :P i think typing  /query ljl  should open you a window with me04:28
swhalenHelp! i cant get XBFX to work04:29
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swhalenit works, but no items show up in the menus04:30
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awatsonLjL, do you see my msg?04:30
LjLawatson: yes, i was smoking a cigarette, looking now04:31
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ahmed_ guys.. as for gaming emulation, instead of emulating windows now,, will ps2 emulating be a good suggestion for games on linux ??04:38
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nixHello everybody..04:39
nixAbout the kubuntu 7.04 DVD, is it a live disk or an alternate installer?04:40
dennisterhey ppl...anyone else having severe problems with firefox on feisty?04:40
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dennisterlike constant crashes, nonresponsiveness, popups, etc.?04:40
nixi'm using firefox on dapper without any problems04:41
Tobsani fixed my sound \o/04:41
nixhey maybe try disabling all the extensions.04:41
Tobsanoss driver or whatever it was =)04:41
ahmed_ guys.. as for gaming emulation, instead of emulating windows now,, will ps2 emulating be a good suggestion for games on linux ??04:42
dennisteri only have 2 extensions going, and the problems were existing before those extensions were installed04:42
dennisteri can't believe, even with popups blocked, I'm constantly being forced to close a party poker popup i never installed or allowed to be installed04:43
dennisteryou'd think i was a novice winblows user, lol...who didn't know about things like utilities and spyware tools04:44
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guest_hi04:46
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guest_$B$3$s$K$A$o(B04:47
guest_$BF|K\(B04:47
guest_can u read Japanese?04:47
LjL!jp04:48
ubotwo #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 04:48
guest_thanks :)04:48
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guest_$B$3$l$OAG@2$i$7$$!*!!(BKonversation!!04:48
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nixnot many people awake today..04:49
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s330d3rcan anyone help?  I am having issues connecting a usb drive formatted with ntfs...04:58
ardchoille!ntfs04:59
ubotwoTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:59
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ubuntu_hi guys04:59
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ubuntu_i am trying to detect my internal dial up modem04:59
ubuntu_how do i do this??04:59
ubuntu_i am using fiesty04:59
Ace2016ubuntu_: does lspci show it?05:01
ubuntu_i haven tried it as yet05:01
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ubuntu_i'm pretty new at this05:01
ubuntu_so how would i be able to do that??05:01
TheCreationistHow do I unlock the apt database file?  Adept is saying it is in use, but I just booted my computer.05:02
Ace2016ubuntu_: Alt+F2, then type konsole, now you have a command line, now run lspci05:02
Ace2016in konsole05:02
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ubuntu_ok05:02
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ludu__ubuntu_  dit lspci found it?05:04
ubuntu_i didn't see it05:04
ludu__is it maybe disabled from bios?05:04
pag!fixadept05:04
ripperhi @ all05:04
ubotwoIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:04
Ace2016hi05:05
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ripperis her a german?05:05
pag!de | ripper05:05
ubotworipper: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:05
ripperjo05:05
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ripperTHX05:06
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DaSkreechcan I turn off apport?05:15
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Ace2016DaSkreech: in what context?05:16
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DaSkreechAce2016: as in it being off?05:17
Vedohi, were i find it.map.gz in kubuntu 7.04 thanks05:18
Ace2016DaSkreech: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport  < if you aren't interested in submitting bug reports then i guess you can disable it05:18
Ace2016Vedo: use locate05:18
Vedoi don't find it05:19
Ace2016Vedo: is it an italian keyboard mapping?05:19
Vedoyes05:19
Ace2016Vedo: have you installed those?05:19
DaSkreechAce2016: Not so much that I'm not interested just that a) most apps don't have debugging turned on so the reports are mostly useless and b) everytime I login it tells me every process in the Process table has crashed05:20
Vedoyes05:20
Vedoi want find file for see the layout05:20
Ace2016lol05:21
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DaSkreechJucato: Morning05:21
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Jucatomoin DaSkreech05:22
DaSkreechhi Quetzlcoatl05:22
ahmedguys when trying to install ubuntu studio it doesnt detect my cd drive in the installation though it loads and boots from it .05:22
Quetzlcoatlhi DaSkreech05:22
Jucato!ubuntustudio05:22
ubotwoubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.05:22
Jucatoahmed: ^^^^05:22
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Ace2016Vedo: try sudo apt-get install kdb, then do sudo updatedb, then use locate to find the file05:23
kane_do any of yall use beryl?05:23
ahmedguys when trying to install ubuntu it doesnt detect my cd drive (using external usb cd) in the installation though it loads and boots from it .05:23
Ace2016Vedo: i've never used it before but i guess you also need to install kbd-compat05:24
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hvralphaahmed, a\05:24
ahmedwat ?05:24
ahmedwats a< ?05:24
kane_avinashm_: do your kde menus kinda overlap eachother a little bit?05:24
hvralphaahmed have you checked your fstab setup?05:25
ahmedwats fstab05:25
ahmed?05:25
DaSkreech!fstab05:25
ubotwoThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions05:25
Jucatoahmed: also try asking in #ubuntustudio if you're installing ubuntu studio05:25
kane_like in the kmenu the older old appears "higher" and a little overlaping the child05:25
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ahmedthey have no idea abt it plus this problem happens with both ubuntu and ubuntu studio05:26
Vedothere aren't kdb-compat in the ufficial repository05:26
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hvralphafile in dir /etc which must have line for your cd drive05:26
Ace2016kane_: i use beryl05:26
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kane_ahmed perhaps you should post your stab to pastebin.05:26
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kane_Ace2016: yeah did you see what i asked about the kmenu kind overlapping eachother?05:27
kane_Ace2016: do you experince that?05:27
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Ace2016kmenu overlapping what?05:28
kane_Heh, hard to explain, like in the kmenu when you go to the "child" menus the parrent menu kind overlaps the child menu a little.05:29
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kane_the child menu seems to start slightly under the rendering for the parent.05:29
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Ace2016kane_: no never happened, the main kmenu is under the new sub menus05:31
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kane_ah well, such is life. its just slightly annoying.05:32
kane_i dont really use the menus anyway05:33
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Ace2016Alt+F2 rules05:34
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rothchildhey anyone any good with ndiswrapper and bcm43xx cards?05:36
DaSkreechAce2016: Alt+Space rules :)05:36
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rothchildit's installed but when I do ndiswrapper -l i get05:39
rothchilddevice (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)05:39
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rothchildi've tried the help here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,troubleshooting/05:39
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kane_have you checked this out? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&page=5605:41
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rothchildyeah that's where I started I've been using the guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&highlight=bcm+4306+ndiswrapper05:42
rothchildgonna take it all out and restart from scratch I think05:42
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kane_yeah make sure you black list the bcm driver.05:43
kane_or uninstall them.05:43
kane_can always apt-get them back.05:43
rothchildyup they are blacklisted05:44
rothchildfor some reason when I try to wget the ndiswrapper from sourceforge I'm getting Cannot write to `ndiswrapper-1.44.tar.gz' (Permission denied)05:44
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nando_Hola quien me ayuda con beryl?05:45
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abehi05:46
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terrestrei have a lot of kde upgrades05:46
kane_rothchild: are you in in dir that you have write priv to?05:46
creadorcreativonando_: #kubuntu-es05:46
rothchildkane_ I just worked that one out DOH!05:47
kane_: )05:47
terrestretheres a lot of upgrades today from kde05:47
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terrestremaybe for kde 2.5.705:49
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terrestre3.5.705:49
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kane_terrestre: i dont see many.05:49
terrestreno?05:50
arkygeekhi everyone05:50
kane_you have to unable the kde 3.5.7 repos your self.05:50
K-RyanHi arkygeek05:50
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kane_they are not pushing them out to all users.05:50
terrestrei have like 30 pakckages05:50
kane_if you did enable them though, that would explain it.05:50
arkygeekI am fighting (a losing) battle with a Belkin wifi Ver.7000uk05:51
terrestreits was a question, actually05:51
rothchildhmm still getting: device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)05:51
rothchildwhen I do ndiswrapper -l05:51
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kane_rothchild: it sounds like those old drivers are getting loaded still.05:51
kane_did your rmmod them?05:52
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kane_er did you rmmod05:52
rothchildyup here's the output: ERROR: Module bcmw43xx does not exist in /proc/modules05:52
rothchildand in the blacklist too05:53
arkygeeki get blkwgdv7 : driver installed        device (1799:700F) present05:53
arkygeekbut badness on boot - (hangs until I press ctrl-alt-del) and iwconfig shows nothing :'(05:53
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arkygeeklspci -v  shows 03:05.0 Ethernet controller: Belkin Unknown device 700f (rev 20)        Subsystem: Belkin Unknown device 700f05:54
kane_rothchild: hrm, i dunno then, ive never had that particular issue with ndiswrapper.05:54
kane_rothchild: i would apt remove them and reboot and try ndiswrapper again.05:54
kane_but thats just me, and a shot in the dark.05:55
rothchildkane_ thanks I'm gonna give it a go05:56
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ubuntu_Hi.05:56
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ubuntu_I just installed gnome desktop environement. Now when I boot, my PC 'halts' at 'boot' After loadingthe kernel) and won't go any further.05:57
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ubuntu_I'm using the Live CD as an emergency.05:58
ubuntu_Can anyone save me?05:58
K-RyanDoes the GRUB boot screen come up? Where you pick what OS you're going to boot, that thing.05:58
ubuntu_Yes, that comes up.05:59
ubuntu_When the word 'boot' appears, notheing else happens.05:59
Ace2016ubuntu_: and what happens after you select the item in grub and press enter?05:59
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ubuntu_Oh, ISWYM. I'm not sure, I get a few lines of code - kernnel loaded etc. then 'boot'06:00
ubuntu_That's all.06:00
K-RyanHave you made any changes to your /etc/fstab?06:00
Ace2016ubuntu_: what happens when you start in resqueue mode?06:00
K-RyanAce2016: rescue =P06:00
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ubuntu_K-Ryan: No changes - just went to repisotory and installed gde06:01
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ubuntu_Ace2016: Not sure how to do that. :(06:01
K-Ryanubuntu_: You don't have a recovery mode option at the boot screen?06:01
Ace2016ubuntu_:  (recovery mode) what errors do you get when you use the recovery mode?06:01
ubuntu_K-Ryan: Not AFAIK.06:01
K-RyanIt should be right underneath the option you were using.06:02
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ubuntu_The thing is, I don't seem to *have* any options - unless there's some intervention with an F key or somesuch.06:02
Ace2016???06:02
K-RyanNo06:02
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K-RyanThere isn't06:03
ubuntu_Oh.06:03
K-RyanSo hold on06:03
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ubuntu_OK.06:03
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K-RyanYou can pick "Ubuntu Kernel....." right?06:03
K-RyanIn that menu that pops up06:03
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malosohi i have a question i dont know my  root password how can i get this?06:03
ubuntu_There's no 'menu' - Ubuntu Kernal shows automaticall at the top of the screen.06:03
Lichtethe release notes to 3.5.7 says it includes kdevelop 3.4.1, but after upgrading only 3.4.0 is available....will 3.4.1 be available soon ?06:04
Ace2016ubuntu_: so you don't have a send option like in here? http://yekubuntu.free.fr/hoary/images/grub.jpeg06:04
ubuntu_No. it not gui at all.06:04
kane_maloso: ubuntu doesnt really use the root password, you can use sudo for everything.06:04
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ubuntu_just a few lines of code on the black screen.06:04
kane_and if something asks for the root password, just enter your normal password.06:05
Ace2016ubuntu_: so you don't get that chooser? like the one in the image?06:05
ubuntu_oh, hang on06:05
ubuntu_didn't see the url ...06:05
kane_if he doesnt have another os installed he wont get the chooser.06:05
ubuntu_No, I don't get the chooser.06:05
K-RyanDoes Kubuntu try to boot?06:05
ubuntu_Only