[12:14] <_defcon> lol
[12:14] <Ace2016> _defcon: it is organised, its in kcontrol, can't get more organised than that
[12:15] <RadiantFire> kcontrol is a failure, this is true
[12:15] <RadiantFire> but I think system-settings is going upstream for kde 4
[12:15] <Ace2016> _defcon: you'll be shocked to find its actually in the mouse section, yea who would have guessed that
[12:15] <Ace2016>  /sarcasm :P
[12:15] <_defcon> Ace2016, lol
[12:15] <fdoving> _defcon: kmenu -> system settings -> mouse -> select what you want.
[12:15] <_defcon> id think it would be in filemanager settings
[12:15] <_defcon> thankyou
[12:16] <_defcon> fdoving, it is not in mouse settings
[12:16] <_defcon> im here
[12:17] <_defcon> open folders with 1 click etc
[12:17] <fdoving> _defcon: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse ?
[12:17] <RadiantFire> yes
[12:17] <_defcon> not there
[12:17] <fdoving> then mouse.
[12:17] <RadiantFire> fdoving: yes it is
[12:17] <Ace2016> _defcon: it is there
[12:17] <RadiantFire> fdoving: keyboard & mouse -> mouse
[12:17] <_defcon> i'll look again if not i'll post a screen
[12:17] <RadiantFire> fdoving: there is a radio button to select
[12:18] <_defcon> thankyou
[12:18] <_defcon> not quite used to the new iface yet
[12:19] <_defcon> any good ways to optimize performance, start up apps etc
[12:20] <Ace2016> _defcon: initng/nvidia drivers/stop services you don't need
[12:20] <_defcon> ok
[12:23] <Ace2016> you could also make a custom kernel with all the modules that you use compiled into it, and then you can use a smaller initrd file which means the system starts a tiny bit faster, but if you add bootsplash and gfxgrub then it will transition smoother and with a smaller delay between selecting the kernel in grub and the splash showing
[12:24] <_defcon> cool
[12:24] <_defcon> any good apps to run possible dangerous programs in a safe container?
[12:25] <_defcon> or monitor apps activity
[12:25] <_defcon> etc
[12:25] <Ace2016> _defcon: what kind of dangerous programs?
[12:25] <Ace2016> fakeroot?
[12:25] <_defcon> well i have this friend I dont trust completely, he programs and makes things, I just want to make sure he isnt screwing me
[12:25] <_defcon> or already hacked me
[12:25] <_defcon> lol
[12:26] <Ace2016> sandbox?
[12:26] <_defcon> i'll check those out
[12:26] <_defcon> thankyou
[12:27] <hudsy> i cant run mercury!!
[12:27] <hudsy> HELP PLZ
[12:27] <david2_> why do you need to run mercury?
[12:28] <Ace2016> mercury?
[12:28] <hudsy> msn
[12:28] <Ace2016> hudsy: well have you installed java?
[12:28] <Ace2016> hudsy: what version are you using now?
[12:29] <hudsy> im trying to install it
[12:29] <Ace2016> hudsy: your trying to install java? from the repos right?
[12:29] <hudsy> yea
[12:30] <_defcon> Ace2016, any way to run nmap/pcap utilities under a fake root shell
[12:30] <_defcon> or protected service
[12:30] <Ace2016> no idea
[12:30] <_defcon> id like to run some apps in a protected bash root shell
[12:30] <Ace2016> bye all
[12:31] <nuu> _defcon: chroot is what you're looking for
[12:31] <_defcon> ok
[12:31] <JiminyJ> hello
[12:31] <_defcon> nuu thankyou
[12:31] <JiminyJ> umm
[12:31] <JiminyJ> im trying to install kubuntu
[12:31] <JiminyJ> but i cant =\
[12:32] <JiminyJ> got to stage 5 but it says my partition table is empty
[12:32] <JiminyJ> and i cant create a new 1
[12:32] <_defcon> nuu I can run files with chroot that are protected?
[12:32] <nuu> chroot merely creates a "jail", or a sandbox to execute your app
[12:32] <_defcon> ok
[12:33] <_defcon> thats good
[12:33] <JiminyJ> nuu?
[12:33] <nuu> of course that "jail" needs a (limited, obviously) /-like tree of directories
[12:33] <nuu> i think there are some tutorials out there on how to use it
[12:33] <nuu> !chroot
[12:33] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:33] <JiminyJ> nuu? :|
[12:33] <nuu> yes ?
[12:33] <JiminyJ> im trying to install kubuntu
[12:34] <JiminyJ> but on the 5th stage it says the partition table is empty
[12:34] <JiminyJ> and it fails to create a new 1
[12:34] <nuu> 5th stage being what ? setting up of the partitions on the disk ?
[12:34] <JiminyJ> yes
[12:35] <nuu> and fails how ?
[12:35] <nuu> saying what ?
[12:35] <JiminyJ> that it failed
[12:35] <JiminyJ> ._.
[12:35] <nuu> helpful indeed ;)
[12:35] <JiminyJ> It is not possible to create a new partition table
[12:36] <JiminyJ> it says "It is not possible to create a new partition table"
[12:38] <JiminyJ> umm nuu?
[12:39] <nuu> JiminyJ: sorry, no idea
[12:39] <JiminyJ> :\
[12:39] <JiminyJ> i mean
[12:40] <JiminyJ> in the /root/ too
[12:40] <JiminyJ> shows nothing
[12:40] <JiminyJ> no drives, nothing
[12:40] <JiminyJ> i'm installing it on a VM btw
[12:40] <nuu> what virtualization softwar ?
[12:41] <JiminyJ> VirtualBox
[12:41] <nuu> chances are the virtual driver virtualbox uses to emulate a disk isnt recognized by the installer
[12:41] <nuu> i'd google for it
[12:41] <nuu> or try with a different virtualization program
[12:41] <TomasuAway> I'm having some trouble mounting an nfs share on a clean kubuntu install. It was working fine before I wiped my gentoo and installed kubuntu.
[12:42] <TomasuAway> mount just hangs.
[12:42] <nuu> anyway, almost 1am and i've got work tomorrow
[12:42] <timmay> omg why are my screen savers not working!!
[12:42] <nuu> good night
[12:42] <adaptr> zomg TIMMEH!
[12:42] <timmay> Himalaahhh TIMMAY!
[12:43] <adaptr> c'mon everybody, let's beat up the cripple
[12:43] <david2_> retard
[12:43] <adaptr> no, he's a cripple, not a retard
[12:44] <david2_> I think there was a episode of south park disputing that fact
[12:45] <adaptr> oh, okay - it's not like I;ve seen them all...
[12:45] <david2_> ANd timmay didnt care one way or the other
[12:46] <timmay> what does this have to do with my srceen saver?
[12:46] <david2_> Absolutely nothing
[12:47] <david2_> to the cripple lol
[12:48] <TomasuAway> aah. Cool. fixed my problem. seems not having nfs-common makes mount hang instead of error out...
[12:49] <zblach> is there an application in which I can test my microphone?
[12:49] <zblach> !microphone
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <alxj> ii made a new post with my problem: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3083553.0
[12:50] <TomasuAway> "Amarok: [Loader]  Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?"  :(
[12:52] <zblach> TomasuAway: killall amarokapp
[12:52] <luckyone> does anyone know how to install eclipse with out it installing gij and those packages?
[12:52] <TomasuAway> yeah, It happens that the mysql server it was configured to use isnt up. so it just hangs..
[12:52] <TomasuAway> just commented out the mysql stuff in the config and amarok sarted :)
[12:53] <TomasuAway> zblach: thanks though :)
[12:54] <TomasuAway> that mp3 stuff is annoying though :(
[12:54] <zblach> *nods*
[12:54] <zblach> there's a repo which provides amarok with mp3 support
[12:54] <zblach> can't remember which one tho'
[12:56] <crimsun> luckyone: just install a jre (v1.5 or v1.6 - sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre, respectively, both in multiverse), then grab the eclipse runtime binary from an eclipse.org mirror and extract it into /usr/local
[12:56] <crimsun> I run 3.3RC1 with CDT 4.0M7 in that manner.
[12:56] <TomasuAway> zblach: well, I got asked to install the mp3 packages, so I assume it'll work once libxine1-ffmpeg is installed
[12:57] <TomasuAway> adept is sure impressive though.
[01:00] <torja> hola
[01:02] <hitmanWilly> howdy there, fellow carbon-based lifeforms
[01:02] <khirr> how can i do a shortcut for a utorrent.exe?
[01:02] <khirr> i have wine installed, and the progrm run okay, but i need a shortcut
[01:02] <hitmanWilly> khirr: where do you want it? desktop
[01:02] <khirr> yes
[01:02] <khirr> desktop
[01:03] <hitmanWilly> khirr: right click the desktop, new, link to application
[01:03] <Tobsan> my sound does not work :(
[01:03] <Tobsan> where can i update/change drivers
[01:03] <khirr> dibe
[01:03] <khirr> done
[01:04] <hitmanWilly> khirr: in the path box input wine, then in arguments, put in the path to utorrent
[01:05] <hitmanWilly> Tobsan: what model card?
[01:05] <khirr> command?
[01:06] <hitmanWilly> khirr: what you usually run it with minus the wine, ie wine <put this in the arguments box>
[01:06] <khirr> uhmm, comment box?
[01:06] <khirr> it's in spanish
[01:07] <hitmanWilly> khirr: the arguments box should be the one on the bottom
[01:07] <hitmanWilly> khirr: the path box is number 3 down
[01:08] <hitmanWilly> khirr: the first one is just what you want to name the link
[01:08] <khirr> 3 donwn
[01:08] <khirr> now?
[01:08] <khirr> :O
[01:08] <khirr> thisl oad....thank u
[01:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody done a kubuntu linux-ha cluster? I would like to know where to start... google only talks about old versions with the 2.4 kernel.
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> ok :) figured i was confusing you there for a minute
[01:10] <hitmanWilly> gundam_rx78nt1: not really familiar with that, but it should be pretty close
[01:11] <hitmanWilly> gundam_rx78nt1: or, search for how-to with debian, that should be REALLY close
[01:12] <gundam_rx78nt1> well, I have a project assigned in school that I would like to do, it's to create a fail-over cluster running mySQL. It is to show that the mySQL servcie will still be available if one of the nodes in the cluster has gone down.
[01:13] <khirr> The FUSE technology used by ntfs-3g consists of two major parts: a library and a Linux kernel driver. The message means that you either have the faulty FUSE 2.6.2 release, or the library (FUSE package) is safe but the kernel driver is not. When you install or upgrade the FUSE package then it installs only the library, not the kernel driver. In other words, ntfs-3g and FUSE is safe but not your kernel.
[01:13] <khirr> what does it mean?
[01:13] <hitmanWilly> gundam_rx78nt1: sorry, mysql stuff is a little over my head, not a whole lotta experience
[01:13] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok, thanks hitmanWilly.
[01:13] <hitmanWilly> khirr: what does what mean?
[01:14] <khirr> i mount ntfs-3g partition 4 hours ago..but now...i had to it again
[01:14] <khirr> repeat it...i dunno why
[01:14] <hitmanWilly> khirr: did you reboot?
[01:14] <khirr> maybe...i think yes
[01:15] <khirr> how can i do for that mount automatilly
[01:15] <hitmanWilly> khirr: you need to add it to /etc/fstab
[01:15] <hitmanWilly> !fstab | khirr
[01:15] <ubotu> khirr: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:15] <khirr> how?
[01:15] <khirr> i'm not good in englsih
[01:15] <tin> or use the Disks & Filesystems section in System Settings
[01:15] <tin> under the Advanced tab
[01:16] <purpleposeidon> what's the command to get a list of symbols for a .so?
[01:16] <khirr> uhmmm
[01:16] <hitmanWilly> khirr: see the link from ubotu, or try in #kubuntu-es, the speak spanish
[01:16] <hitmanWilly> *they
[01:16] <khirr> i've tried, but...is so hard can talk
[01:17] <khirr> no body answer
[01:17] <hitmanWilly> :)
[01:17] <hitmanWilly> yeah, figured that...
[01:17] <gundam_rx78nt1> khirr, cual es el problema?
[01:18] <hitmanWilly> khirr: anyway, take a look at the file with a text editor, its pretty easy to figure out...
[01:18] <khirr> que hace un momento cuando reinicie se desmonto mi unidad con ntfs-3g
[01:18] <hitmanWilly> khirr: if you've ever mounted anything from the cmd line at least
[01:18] <khirr> its my first time
[01:19] <VSpike> khirr: you will need a line like this in /etc/fstab -- /dev/hda2 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 1
[01:19] <jordi_> Hello, how do I do to download the source of a program (e.g. cat)
[01:19] <cvill64-laptop> has anybody tried to install i386 version on an amd64 X2 and have it fail a lot ?
[01:20] <khirr> gundam_rx78nt1 como hago eso
[01:20] <VSpike> khirr: first part is what you want to mount, second part is where you want to mount it to
[01:20] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: are you using the -i386 or -generic kernel?
[01:21] <cvill64-laptop> w/e is d/led with the kubuntu-desktop-i386 iso
[01:21] <khirr> gundam_rx78nt1 tengo esto /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 ntfs umask=0,nls=utf8,ro 0 0   como hago par qu cargue con ntfs-3g
[01:21] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: try the 686 version...ran it on my athalon for quite a while with no problems
[01:22] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: it installs the -generic kernel by default, its the one that links on the main page
[01:22] <timmay> aawww man my windows key isn't working now
[01:23] <cvill64-laptop> kubuntu has a i686 version?
[01:23] <khirr> gundam_rx78nt1 reiniciare para probar
[01:24] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: it has a generic pc version, which is set up for 586/686 processors as well as athalons running in 32 bit mode
[01:24] <Minataku> Oooh, the RX-78NT-1... that's one of my favorites
[01:24] <cvill64-laptop> hmmm.... /me searches for this i686 iso
[01:24] <VSpike> khirr: cambialo a esto -- /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 ntfs-3g defaults, locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[01:25] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: just follow the link off the main page, it'll take you to it
[01:25] <xGrantx> where does avant-window-navigator install to?
[01:26] <cvill64-laptop> am I blind ... I'm only seeing amd64 and i386 isos linked to on the download page at kubuntu.org
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: ok, never mind, been a while since i downloaded it, you've got the x86 version, right?
[01:27] <cvill64-laptop> yes, the x86 is i386 iso
[01:27] <hitmanWilly> used to be a few more versions...
[01:27] <cvill64-laptop> I thought so too, but guess not
[01:27] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: the i386 version does install the generic kernel by default, so it should work...
[01:28] <cvill64-laptop> should be the key factor :P
[01:28] <hitmanWilly> yeah...
[01:28] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: what does it do, exactly?
[01:29] <cvill64-laptop> its doing something weird, and I can't tell if its failing by trying to install grub to a /boot or during the copy process... hitmanWilly that'd be a great question if the installer actually errored out, I'd love to send debug code
[01:29] <cvill64-laptop> I've of course checked the media, checked my hard drives
[01:29] <cvill64-laptop> the amd64 installed fine
[01:29] <cvill64-laptop> and I'm just doing /boot, /, /home, swap
[01:29] <cvill64-laptop> so nothing complicated
[01:30] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: hmmm, you may try the alternate cd
[01:30] <cvill64-laptop> I don't see anything in the alternate cd desciption that would help sadly
[01:31] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: its a more traditional linux installer with a few more options
[01:31] <cvill64-laptop> automatic deployment, need less ram, etc if I remember correctly
[01:31] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: plus it runs in text mode so you can see any errors it spits
[01:32] <cvill64-laptop> suprised the devs didn't add a crash handler for the installer
[01:33] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: i think they did, but lock-ups don't call it sometimes, it only works when the installer KNOWS it crashed
[01:33] <melkor> does anybody here have a favorite, 'lightweight' windows manager, maybe something faster than fluxbox?
[01:33] <hitmanWilly> melkor: uhhh, TWM?
[01:33] <cvill64-laptop> flux is my favored :P
[01:33] <hitmanWilly> melkor: it really doesn't get much faster than flux...
[01:34] <khirr> queria levantar con ntfs-3g T_T
[01:34] <khirr> para poder escribir
[01:34] <cvill64-laptop> hitmanWilly: well its frozen and its crashed, two different times...very weird
[01:34] <jack> can someone tell me why i cant open the systemmanagent of my monitor settings since i edited the xorg.conf for xinerama with radeon driver?
[01:34] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: did it drop out or just hang forever?
[01:35] <cvill64-laptop> one time it just hung and froze and the other (new cd) it just crashed as in the window went bye bye w/o me telling it too
[01:36] <cvill64-laptop> I'm wondering if it can't handle the /boot as it seems to get through most of the copying process
[01:36] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: did you put /boot as the first partition on the drive? that may be the issue...
[01:36] <melkor> yeah fluxbox is nice I think I'm going to try this open box.
[01:36] <hitmanWilly> melkor: most of the box WMs run about the same footprint
[01:37] <cvill64-laptop> hitmanWilly: no, the /boot is the second partition, the first being a windows partition, and the amd64 iso was able to handle it, also all other distros so far have been able to handle it too, which is why I'm skeptical but I may just try it for th ehell of it
[01:38] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: i remember lilo having issues with that...i.e. the boot was too far back on the drive
[01:38] <cvill64-laptop> lilo yes, but this is grub
[01:38] <jack> can someone tell me why i cant open the systemmanagent of my monitor settings since i edited the xorg.conf for xinerama with radeon driver?
[01:39] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: with grub, you really don't need a /boot partition anyway
[01:39] <cvill64-laptop> its helpful to have one imho
[01:40] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: ok. i don't usually use it myself...but cool.
[01:40] <hitmanWilly> definately onboard with the /home partition, tho :)
[01:41] <cvill64-laptop> yep, have that on a different hard drive
[01:41] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: me too, saved my bacon more than once
[01:42] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: is the win partition vista or xp?
[01:42] <cvill64-laptop> also nice when testing out other distros to have a nice little test partition first drive and just mount the /home for w/e
[01:42] <cvill64-laptop> the win partition is the winxp64
[01:43] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: ah, that may be the issue, try installing grub on the MBR of the second drive, and switch the bios to boot from it first
[01:43] <cvill64-laptop> wait .... wah?
[01:43] <khirr> how can i do with one commnd on console to mound automatilly  one ntfs partition to can write
[01:43] <cvill64-laptop> that'd be silly :P
[01:44] <cvill64-laptop> it works the way I have it for several other distros including kubuntu amd64
[01:44] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: the 64 bit win bootloader may be interfering with the 32 bit grub...
[01:44] <cvill64-laptop> the win bootloader hasn't been there for quite awhile
[01:45] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: ah, ok :)
[01:45] <cvill64-laptop> ;)
[01:45] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: sorry, defaulting to newbie mode again...
[01:45] <cvill64-laptop> no problem, its what I do when helping others also
[01:45] <cvill64-laptop> I've had to use that suggestion before anyways
[01:46] <cvill64-laptop> well, giving it to others
[01:46] <cvill64-laptop> luckily never having to use it :P
[01:46] <nzk> Why is ubuntu so mind-numbingly and god-awfully slow?
[01:46] <nzk> I am running on a 2 year old new-at-the-time computer at 3.46ghz
[01:46] <cvill64-laptop> coz its not compiled for your optimized arch
[01:46] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: how comfortable are you installing grub manually? you may try that and just skip over the grub installer in kubuntu
[01:46] <nzk> Xchat, Terminal, Gedit, and Rhythmbox
[01:46] <nzk> 8.38 load average
[01:46] <nzk> The song wont even PLAY
[01:46] <cvill64-laptop> eh, I could do that, but then I'd just install gentoo again :P
[01:47] <nzk> i386 too
[01:47] <cvill64-laptop> nzk: that load average is small.....do you have support installed to play the file type ?
[01:47] <Neil-> is gentoo similar to ubuntu?
[01:47] <cvill64-laptop> I normally run gentoo
[01:47] <cvill64-laptop> on desktop
[01:47] <cvill64-laptop> NO NO NO
[01:47] <cvill64-laptop> lmao
[01:47] <cvill64-laptop> nein
[01:47] <nzk> cvill64-laptop, I mean that the computer is so slow, my mouse doesn't even move in real time, and if my song isn't horribly skipping its not even playing
[01:48] <pricechild> Hey I've been trying out kubuntu.... and was keeping xchat2. However colours don't appear in the channel list on the left when soemone sends a message etc. Does anyone else get this/know how to fix it?
[01:48] <nzk> 8.38 load average is high enough to melt a processor, its not 'small'
[01:48] <nzk> pricechild, #xchat
[01:48] <cvill64-laptop> Neil-: to answer the question, its not even remotely similar imho
[01:48] <pricechild> nzk, they pushed me to ask in #kde :P
[01:48] <Neil-> just curious :)
[01:49] <cvill64-laptop> oh, I thought you meant processor usage nzk, apologizes
[01:49] <Tired_> Hi.  I just got a gamepad, and I want to test it out, but I can't seem to find a game in the repos that uses one...any ideas?
[01:49] <nzk> cvill64-laptop, What can I do about this?
[01:49] <hitmanWilly> Tired_: frozen bubble has the option
[01:49] <nzk> Some days its fine, and video plays in real time (if i am lucky)
[01:49] <Tired_> Sweet, thanks  :)
[01:49] <Tobsan> hitmanWilly: i have a Intel 82801G Sound Card, but my drivers are completely lost
[01:49] <nzk> Like today its not even close to fine
[01:50] <cvill64-laptop> good question nzk, you could just have a simple heat problem, or it could be a failing hard drive, or your mobo is screwed up, or something during the install process didn't quite get it...that's a bit of a toughy to figure out
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> nzk: run top to see what's running
[01:50] <crimsun> Tobsan: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[01:50] <Tobsan> oh
[01:50] <cvill64-laptop> I just may try that hitmanWilly with manually install grub
[01:50] <nzk> hitmanWilly, I do, top shows nothing out of the ordinary
[01:51] <nzk> top itself takes up like 20% of the cpu
[01:51] <adaptr> and you call that "nothing out of the ordinary" ???
[01:51] <nzk> Thats why I dont run top
[01:51] <nzk> or system monitor
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> nzk: wtf? that should NOT be happening...
[01:51] <nzk> they use up too much resources to be useful
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> nzk: you may have a bad proc there...
[01:52] <Tired_> YAY!  It works gorgeously, except every time I go left, it opens my K-menu.
[01:52] <nzk>  8287 nzk    15   0  2316 1096  804 R    4  0.2   0:00.05 top
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> Tired_: try disabling the gesture in kcontrol
[01:53] <nzk> I hate this computer so much, it works fine sometimes but bad othertimes. Its basically a laptop filled solid with dust.
[01:53] <hitmanWilly> nzk: full of dust? the proc is probably scaling itself down due to heat...
[01:54] <nzk> I exaggerate
[01:54] <nzk> I clean it every few weeks
[01:54] <cvill64-laptop> hmm...did the packagers forget to replace the "Help for GRUB device selection goes here" in the installer? :P
[01:54] <nzk> its clean now actually
[01:54] <Tired_> "the gesture"?
[01:54] <nzk> Like windows, when I bring them up from minimize, take something like 7 seconds to render
[01:54] <cvill64-laptop> yep, hardware problem
[01:54] <nzk> :|
[01:54] <Tobsan> crimsun: how do i run the script?
[01:55] <hitmanWilly> Tired_: its probably reading the left as some kind of keyboard/mouse gesture
[01:55] <whitepyro> is there a way to allow dual monitor support which only loads anything opengl (games) on 1 screen and not both??
[01:55] <crimsun> Tobsan: save it to the Desktop, then in a Konsole:  bash alsa-info.sh
[01:55] <Tired_> oh. i probably should disable mouse gestures totally, since I don't use them
[01:55] <Tobsan> aha
[01:55] <crimsun> Tobsan: (or you may need to use:  bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh  )
[01:56] <hitmanWilly> Tired_: there ya go :)
[01:56] <Tobsan> http://pastebin.ca/508378
[01:56] <cvill64-laptop> whitepyro: you using ati or nvidia ?
[01:56] <whitepyro> cvill64-laptop: Ati radeon 9700 Pro
[01:56] <Tired_> And now it works completely perfectly...thanks a ton.  :D
[01:56] <Tired_> I'm gonna go blow up some bubbles.
[01:57] <nzk> cvill64-laptop, if I try to bring it to dell, they will be like "omgz u uzed linsux on urz computerz datz y itz sloww"
[01:57] <cvill64-laptop> oh geez, sorry, I don't know ati xorg stuff very well
[01:57] <cvill64-laptop> nzk: legally they can't say that
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> Tobsan: you may need to modprobe the driver
[01:57] <Tobsan> crimsun: i have to go to bed now (is't 2 AM here) but if you see a solution to my problem, please PM me
[01:57] <cvill64-laptop> and you can just start windows to show them
[01:57] <Tobsan> goodnight
[01:57] <nzk> I wiped windows off the drive.
[01:58] <whitepyro> cvill64-laptop: Thanks any how.. atleast I got bigdesktop working :P
[01:58] <crimsun> Tobsan: what's the output from lsmod|grep ^snd  ?
[01:58] <cvill64-laptop> that's pretty good for ati
[01:58] <cvill64-laptop> I hear too many horror stories about ati
[01:58] <hitmanWilly> ati just blows...at least right now...
[01:58] <nzk> cvill64-laptop, anyway, they have done that before, refused service because of my OS
[01:58] <cvill64-laptop> ?
[01:58] <cvill64-laptop> weird, I've gotten my acer fixed with linux of it
[01:59] <cvill64-laptop> but then again, not a dell
[01:59] <hitmanWilly> nzk: that may not be the case anymore, since they are now shipping the very distro you are running
[01:59] <nzk> Besides, its out of warrantee
[01:59] <nzk> hitmanWilly, I know, but the slaves at tech support dont know that
[02:00] <whitepyro> Man i hate getting echo when playing my dvd.. Theres..... got to be a setting somewhere....
[02:00] <nzk> hitmanWilly, I use Ubuntu not Kubuntu
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> nzk: you may try and see if there's any computer shops around that can help, since its out of warranty you're gonna have to pay for it anyway
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> nzk: same thing
[02:01] <nzk> Bah, I don't feel like wasting money. I'll just get a new computer.
[02:01] <cvill64-laptop> damnit...this time got to 63%, saying less than a minute to go and it crashed, how does the installer not know its crashing
[02:01] <nzk> Hopefully C2D Mac Minis will be out after WWDC or around there
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> nzk: everything except the deafult desktop is identical between ubuntu/kubuntu
[02:01] <nzk> So I can get one
[02:01] <whitepyro> I like ubuntu's interface better then my kubuntu but i can't get esddsp to work without skipping and in kubuntu atleast I can adjust buffer with arts ;|
[02:01] <cvill64-laptop> I hate gnome, so I'm trying out kubuntu
[02:02] <cvill64-laptop> and I'd say a lot is different hitmanWilly, especially with what programs you get defaulted too
[02:02] <whitepyro> KDE seems bloated atleast with its menus.... So i'm writing a bash script to remove them all if i need to format for anything LOL
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop & apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop & apt-get autoremove...you have now turned an ubuntu desktop into a kubuntu desktop :)
[02:03] <cvill64-laptop> interesting, but that's a lot of packages to remove and install
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: yup, just trying to demonstrate that the core architectures are identical :)
[02:04] <cvill64-laptop> whitepyro: that's because kde has a global menu which gnome does not
[02:04] <cvill64-laptop> oh, yesthe core is the same
[02:04] <nzk> If i run kill -9 1
[02:04] <nzk> what will happen
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu is just stock ubuntu minus gnome plus kde
[02:05] <whitepyro> nzk probably better to do ps aux then do killall [Name] 
[02:05] <hitmanWilly> nzk: nothing good
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> nzk: that would kill init
[02:06] <flami> Uhm i somehow made it do add a 2nd pannel on top of the screen , and i have no idea how to get rid of it
[02:06] <whitepyro> flami: Right click kicker bar and
[02:06] <cWolfe> does xchat in k/ubuntu have built in ipv6 support?
[02:07] <whitepyro> flami: unlock panels and then right click panel and then go to panels and remove
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: what's really fun is just installing the ubuntu base system (no X, etc) and building up gentoo style
[02:07] <flami> remove pannels is greyed out
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> cvill64-laptop: you can even use apt-build if you want to compile everything
[02:08] <whitepyro> flami: So you have one on top and one on bottom now?
[02:08] <flami> i have the normal one on the bottom
[02:08] <oldwest> one know what konsole command to see what is used and space left on hdrive
[02:08] <whitepyro> Man i love watching harry potter on 2nd screen ROFL (yes harry potter)
[02:08] <hitmanWilly> harry pothead?
[02:08] <flami> and somehow i added a 2nd one on top that aparently gets some options of a software i start
[02:09] <whitepyro> sure sure
[02:09] <K-Ryan> I think he added an external taskbar
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[02:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:10] <xGrantx> ugh
[02:10] <flami> seems to be a menu extension?
[02:10] <Jack333> can i run another linux os within ubuntu?
[02:10] <xGrantx> I almost have avant window navigator working....
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Jack333: yes with VMs
[02:10] <oldwest> what is konsole command to see space used and and unsed on hard drive?
[02:10] <xGrantx> it comes up then crashes
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> !VM
[02:10] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[02:10] <flami> you can make dual boots, i recommend gentoo if you want a shock :P
[02:10] <K-Ryan> What does a Kasbar do?
[02:10] <Jack333> !Kqemu
[02:10] <ubotu> kqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[02:10] <Jack333> !qemu
[02:10] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Jack333: /msg ubotu :)
[02:10] <Jack333> ah okay :P
[02:14] <xGrantx> oh, haha
[02:14] <xGrantx> the navigator bar is behind the taskbar....
[02:14] <dkkong> How can I get my scanner working if xsane doesn't detect it even if ran under root?
[02:14] <oldwest> anyone know command to used or unused pace left on hdrive?
[02:15] <oldwest> space
[02:15] <xGrantx> how do you move the avant bar?
[02:18] <K-Ryan> oldwest: I'm looking around to find where you can see it, hold on.
[02:18] <oldwest> k-ryan thx
[02:18] <K-Ryan> If you have Gparted you can open that up and look
[02:19] <oldwest> found comm the other day but didn't write it down
[02:19] <oldwest> gparted in synatics?
[02:19] <K-Ryan> Yeah but if you don't have it don't bother
[02:20] <oldwest> y?
[02:20] <sayers> Uhm. My keyboard just stopped working in Kubuntu.
[02:20] <K-Ryan> You can open / then right click home then properties.
[02:20] <oldwest> k - great thx bunch
[02:20] <K-Ryan> It will say how much is used out of how much is available.
[02:20] <K-Ryan> No problem
[02:20] <oldwest> sweet
[02:20] <K-Ryan> sayers: Then how did you type that? o.O
[02:20] <sayers> I know how to use Linux with out a desktop environment
[02:20] <oldwest> trick question huh?
[02:21] <K-Ryan> I didn't know that's what you were doing.
[02:21] <sayers> anyway how do I fix this?
[02:21] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure myself
[02:21] <K-Ryan> !keyboard
[02:21] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[02:21] <K-Ryan> Nope...
[02:22] <sayers> it can't be that hard to fix :s
[02:23] <K-Ryan> What changes have you made recently?
[02:24] <sayers> no clue it just stopped
[02:24] <K-Ryan> Have you tried it again to see if it works now?
[02:24] <sayers> yes
[02:24] <sayers> Failsafe works
[02:24] <K-Ryan> Strange
[02:26] <watcher> hey people, complete noob here, anyone got any basic advice for someone using kubuntu??
[02:27] <K-Ryan> Right click everything.
[02:28] <watcher> lol, yeah i been doing that alot, do you know where i could get some drivers for a nvidia 7950gt xxx grafix card, tried the one from nvidia but it didnt seem to work
[02:29] <sayers> helo
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Yeah it doesn't really work, screwed someone up actually.
[02:29] <K-Ryan> sayers: Don't be afraid to ask again every once in a while
[02:29] <K-Ryan> watcher: You know about Adept right?
[02:29] <sayers> well how am I susposed to use my computer without my Desktop Enviornment?
[02:30] <watcher> errr...nope not really, like a said, complete noob :-(
[02:30] <K-Ryan> No I know it's a problem, but I don't know how to fix it, so you have to rely on someone else.
[02:30] <K-Ryan> watcher: Okay then, Adept Manager is where you install packages from the repositories. Since you don't know about Adept, I'm assuming you never enabled the extra repositories.
[02:31] <watcher> im guessing not too :-p
[02:31] <K-Ryan> Anyway, open the KDE Menu > System > Adept Manager
[02:32] <watcher> righ got that up
[02:32] <K-Ryan> Top left click Adept > Manage Repositories
[02:32] <watcher> yup
[02:32] <K-Ryan> Check all the boxes.
[02:34] <watcher> would it just be easier to do a full upgrade?
[02:34] <K-Ryan> Hmm?
[02:34] <K-Ryan> To get the drivers? That wouldn't get you the drivers
[02:34] <K-Ryan> But you're not on Feisty?
[02:35] <watcher> ahh k then, nope
[02:35] <K-Ryan> Ah, then this isn't going to do it
[02:35] <K-Ryan> Hold on
[02:35] <K-Ryan> !nvidia
[02:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:35] <watcher> sorry for being a completely useless noob here, but thanks for the help, its really appreciated
[02:36] <K-Ryan> It's okay, we were all that way once.
[02:36] <K-Ryan> Okay, when you clicked manage repos, were you able to check the boxes?
[02:36] <K-Ryan> Or did it open up a text-like box?
[02:37] <watcher> got the text like box, said i needed security updates so i got them, and im reading up on the page you sent me now
[02:37] <K-Ryan> Oh I opened it so I could guide you through it =P
[02:38] <K-Ryan> But in that text box you have to find the lines that are commented out(have a # at the beginning of the line) and remove the #
[02:38] <K-Ryan> I think you select the line and click enable to do it.
[02:38] <Search4Lancer> I just downloaded the secure-delete package, but can't find any info as to the commands to use (secure-delete isn't one of them) to use it
[02:38] <watcher> lol, its cool cheers, ill try and do it myself and if i hit a dead end ill come back if thats ok, atm i think i just need to be pointed in the general direction then learn for myself, probably the best way really
[02:38] <K-Ryan> !secure-delete
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about secure-delete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <K-Ryan> Hmmph
[02:39] <xGrantx> how can gset-kiba depend on kiba-dock and kiba-dock depend on gset-kiba?
[02:39] <K-Ryan> watcher: Except if you screw up that text-like area, Adept won't start =P
[02:39] <K-Ryan> watcher: So if you're not sure of something, ask
[02:40] <_defcon> i got a problem, for some reason when I switched from ubuntu over to kubuntu "gnome"-"kde" xchat channel list and query's do not light up when there is activity
[02:40] <_defcon> but in gnome it does
[02:40] <watcher> will do cheers, ill follow the instructions from the page you gave me so i should be ok cheers
[02:40] <K-Ryan> cheers ;)
[02:40] <_defcon> was something changed in xchat when I switched over?
[02:40] <K-Ryan> There are more people here than in the windows room =D
[02:41] <wolferine> K-Ryan, we arent suprised :)
[02:42] <K-Ryan> I love it
[02:42] <K-Ryan> I really do
[02:42] <wolferine> yeah, it grows on ya, thats fo sure
[02:42] <xGrantx> how is it possible that two debian packages depend on each other to install?
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> that's cuz windows doesn't ship with a Microsoft approved irc client :)
[02:42] <wolferine> xGrantx, possible?
[02:42] <K-Ryan> Haha
[02:42] <wolferine> lol @ hitmanWilly
[02:43] <K-Ryan> Well if you need the other to install, you can't really install either then can you?
[02:43] <xGrantx> what?
[02:43] <xGrantx> right
[02:43] <syarif> hi guy's
[02:43] <xGrantx> so it makes no sense
[02:43] <wolferine> xGrantx, are you a programmer?
[02:43] <whitepyro> Is there any better alternatives to gaim and konversation for IRC? :D
[02:43] <tin> that shouldn't happen, but you can force an install if you need to
[02:43] <xGrantx> wolferine, yea I am
[02:43] <beata> I'm having a network issue with Feisty on a laptop with a primary ppp connection and an ethernet port. When the ethernet cable is plugged in, everything is fine. When the cable is unplugged, konqueror won't connect to any internet site unless I disable the cache.
[02:43] <wolferine> whitepyro, xchat
[02:43] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: irc is a wonderful thing then if Microsoft hasn't got its paws on it.
[02:43] <wolferine> xGrantx, well think about it this way
[02:43] <tin> whitepyro: if you can handle a console app, try irssi
[02:43] <hitmanWilly> "you have typed a message in irc and are attempting to send it over the network, Cancel or Allow?"
[02:44] <tin> there's also ksirc, kvirc, lostirc, xchat, kopete can do irc
[02:44] <wolferine> xGrantx, there is alot smaller "packages" because only the code required to run that package is with it, nothing else.  Code reuse
[02:44] <Zeelot> hiellooo
[02:45] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: hehe. "You are coming to a sad realisation, Cancel or Allow?"
[02:45] <beata> I'm using a cellular modem on ttyUSB0/ppp0 as my primary connection.
[02:45] <xGrantx> wolferine, but two packages can't depend on each other, although it seems the ones I have do
[02:45] <whitepyro> thx
[02:45] <K-Ryan> Alonea: Hahaha
[02:45] <wolferine> you install packages for other packages becaause everything is dependant on necessary packages, and since all are realdily available, it just makes sense to not "jam pack" each package with the same thing alot of other packages already have
[02:45] <beata> Oh and I can get konqueror to work with cache enabled if I rmmod the ethernet driver.
[02:46] <wolferine> xGrantx, is it giving you an issue, or are you just pointing this out for everyone?
[02:46] <xGrantx> wolferine, issue
[02:46] <wolferine> ah
[02:46] <wolferine> which packages?
[02:46] <xGrantx> I can't install kiba-dock
[02:46] <Alonea> K-Ryan: I love the Mac commercials. They crack me up. I was a beta tester for vista and they are not over exaggerating on how crazy it is.
[02:46] <wolferine> because, whats the dependency?
[02:47] <xGrantx> because it depends on gset-kiba and kiba-plugins
[02:47] <Alonea> K-Ryan: though Vista does have some good points and I was impressed with some of its deatures.
[02:47] <K-Ryan> Alonea: I love the new hardware one where he gets the webcam taped to his head....
[02:47] <xGrantx> but both of those depend on kiba-dock
[02:47] <wolferine> feisty?
[02:47] <xGrantx> no edgy
[02:47] <beata> Er, what is a kiba?
[02:47] <Alonea> K-Ryan: ^___^
[02:48] <K-Ryan> "Yeah we're done here..."
[02:48] <beata> Webcam one?
[02:48] <K-Ryan> Aye
[02:48] <K-Ryan> That was the last line when the PC walked away
[02:48] <xGrantx> ugh.........
[02:48] <wolferine> xGrantx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268645
[02:49] <wolferine> mac dock for linux?
[02:49] <xGrantx> yea
[02:49] <wolferine> looks cool
[02:49] <wolferine> watching a google video
[02:49] <wolferine> talk to #ubuntu-effects
[02:50] <wolferine> maybe they can offer more assistance
[02:50] <xGrantx> avant was giving me trouble so I decided to try this one
[02:50] <dkkong> Is there any way to run a windows driver through wine?
[02:51] <wolferine> well, looks like ppl have got it to work
[02:51] <wolferine> might take some time/effort on your part to see the end....
[02:53] <xGrantx> well what do you know, kiba-dock just installed itself
[02:53] <wolferine> nice
[02:53] <xGrantx> it's working too
[02:53] <wolferine> :)
[02:53] <wolferine> maybe ill try too
[02:53] <wolferine> hehe
[02:53] <beata> Muh.
[02:54] <xGrantx> ha, you can whip icons all over the place
[02:54] <wolferine> what source are you using?
[02:54] <wolferine> SoS?
[02:54] <wolferine> bbiab
[02:55] <xGrantx> eh
[02:55] <xGrantx> I found the debian packages just doing a google search
[02:55] <beata> There seems not to be it in Feisty.
[02:56] <beata> Oh, third-party?
[03:03] <pisq> is it easy to change out a hard drive in a laptop
[03:03] <navets> hey how do i make things automatically start in kubuntu
[03:04] <navets> pisq: yes just make sure its compatiable
[03:04] <kane_> is it possible to have real transperency on the kicker?
[03:04] <whitepyro> Hey do you think with the current state of things (user ability and ease of use that at some point more developers (possibly games :P) will start to support linux in a more readyable fashion? Or that wine will get good enough to run the newest Direct-X? :D
[03:05] <Zeelot> not happenin
[03:06] <kane_> whitepyro: the reason folks dont develop many games for linux is not the lack of use, its the lack of users who dont also run windows.
[03:06] <pisq> Is it just as easy to install Ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop as on a desk model PC?
[03:06] <thefirstdude> sure
[03:06] <kane_> pisq: just as easy to install, if it supports the wireless and bluetooth and tablet and that sort of thing is another story.
[03:06] <thefirstdude> I have 7.04 running on a dell
[03:06] <thefirstdude> laptop
[03:07] <pisq> ok, thank you both.
[03:07] <whitepyro> I left windows because of the stupid "you have to activate by phone" crap. I'm sick of calling them LOL.
[03:08] <kane_> yeah i havent used windows at home for about 6 years.
[03:08] <dkkong_> Is there any way to make Kooka see my scanner? It isn't detecting it
[03:08] <pisq> k bye
[03:09] <whitepyro> alright time to see if theres a lamp package :D
[03:10] <navets> where is my autostart folder
[03:10] <Ash-Fox> Hm, is there going to be a restricted-manager equivalent in the next kubuntu release?
[03:11] <K-Ryan> You've got a good 4 months 'til then =P
[03:11] <whitepyro> haha
[03:14] <who_> hello all
[03:14] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[03:14] <who_> i have somewhat of a problem
[03:14] <K-Ryan> Shoot
[03:15] <beata> Yap.
[03:15] <who_> i am kindof a newbie to linux and i am looking for a printer that will be compatible with ubuntu
[03:16] <who_> i just got off the phone with a sales rep at HP and he said a compatible printer would be like 1000 dollars and i think that he is mistaken
[03:17] <K-Ryan> compatible printer with Kubuntu?
[03:17] <K-Ryan> 1000? Nah
[03:17] <who_> i was hoping someone would be able to advise me on what kind of printer to buy
[03:17] <who_> yea he said 1000 bucks
[03:17] <cWolfe> lol, my hp 930c was $50 and it worked great
[03:17] <K-Ryan> Well I've got a Canon S330 and mind you Kubuntu didn't have the S330 driver, but the S300 driver does the trick.
[03:17] <who_> plug n play???
[03:18] <cWolfe> who_ dell has a bunch of postscript printers that they say are compatible
[03:18] <K-Ryan> And all I had to do was pick my printer from the driver list thing.
[03:18] <who_> cool
[03:18] <cWolfe> just search dells site with a term like "postscript"
[03:19] <who_> thx
[03:20] <beata> Dell's printers, at least the one's I've seen, vaguely remind me of Lexmark.
[03:24] <eriefisher> hp,epson.brother-----postscript is raw
[03:25] <eriefisher> lexmarks are paper weights
[03:26] <Zeelot> hello! why is it that when I am playing music on XMMS the sound from any other app is turned off?
[03:27] <Zeelot> actually just pidgin...I think
[03:27] <K-Ryan> I'm pretty sure that's the whole "Only one program can use sound at a time" thing
[03:29] <Zeelot> why is that?
[03:29] <K-Ryan> Something with certain sound cards.
[03:29] <Zeelot> but I can watch videos with kaffeine and play music on xmms at onc
[03:29] <Zeelot> once*
[03:30] <K-Ryan> That pidgin program may need to be the only program using sound.
[03:30] <Zeelot> aha
[03:30] <K-Ryan> I get that when using Wine, but like now I can use Amarok + other stuff
[03:30] <Zeelot> no fix?
[03:30] <K-Ryan> That I'm aware of
[03:30] <Zeelot> alrigh
[03:30] <Zeelot> +t
[03:30] <K-Ryan> Granted I may be wrong, but it sounds like that.
[03:30] <K-Ryan> no pun intended =P
[03:30] <Zeelot> lol
[03:32] <klobster> is there a nice way to kill hung programs?
[03:33] <Zeelot> they should already be dead if you tied the knot right o_o
[03:33] <Zeelot> harrr
[03:33] <K-Ryan> Haha
[03:35] <whitepyro> how when i try and run kate through console... or some other programs it prints 2 errors then loads... Is there a way to track down what this error is to make it stop printing? :D
[03:35] <K-Ryan> I think that's just the way it is
[03:35] <K-Ryan> I get that too
[03:35] <whitepyro> X error : baddevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:35] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[03:35] <whitepyro> ya
[03:35] <whitepyro> was just courious
[03:35] <whitepyro> lol
[03:36] <whitepyro> thought maybe xfree or x.org was giving me errors
[03:36] <whitepyro> :D
[03:36] <bsundsrud> thats because of the wacom tablet in your xorg.conf file that ubuntu likes to assume you have
[03:36] <K-Ryan> Dunno, but I have the exact same thing.
[03:36] <klobster> that's normal you are just seeing it's standard messages
[03:36] <whitepyro> ahh ok.. Just making sure ;D
[03:36] <K-Ryan> If it bothers you so much when opening kate
[03:36] <K-Ryan> sudo nano
[03:36] <K-Ryan> =)
[03:36] <bsundsrud> i did a bash alias to redirect all that to /dev/null
[03:36] <whitepyro> nah i prefer using kate over nano :D
[03:37] <K-Ryan> So did I but now I like nano.
[03:37] <whitepyro> i like gedit too but thats ubuntu and not kubuntu :D
[03:37] <K-Ryan> I actually wanted something to type/do yesterday just so I could play around with nano.
[03:37] <bsundsrud> alias kate='kate $@ 2>/dev/null'
[03:38] <bsundsrud> the $@ is so you can still pass it any number of arguments and kate will interpret them
[03:40] <whitepyro> I wish i could find a good text editor though.. I really miss my topstyle pro :D
[03:40] <bsundsrud> emacs!
[03:40] <bsundsrud> haha
[03:40] <moralless> How do i move /home to to a freshly formatted drive, and how do i mount it?
[03:41] <K-Ryan> mount <partition path>
[03:41] <K-Ryan> moving it I think should be as simple as a copy and paste
[03:41] <K-Ryan> "think"
[03:41] <bsundsrud> that SHOULD work.
[03:41] <bsundsrud> hehe
[03:43] <moralless> How do i set a mountpoint for it?
[03:43] <marke1> can anyone here help with video performance?
[03:43] <K-Ryan> Do you have the drivers for your video card?
[03:43] <bsundsrud> after installing the nvidia drivers, I can't access virtual terminals (Ctrl+F1-F6) anymore, because they're all garbled.  is there a kernel param (vga=?) or something i can do to fix this?
[03:44] <marke1> i have nvidia geforce2 - loaded edgy - using nvidia-glx
[03:44] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[03:45] <K-Ryan> Strange, I have that on Feisty and my stuff works fine
[03:45] <K-Ryan> Stick around I'm sure someone can help
[03:46] <marke1> i have video refresh issues - DVDs are gittery - 256MB RAM - 32MB vid RAM - P3 1GHz - decent disk drive - DVD in 32-bit mode (hdparm)
[03:46] <marke1> anybody have tips on how to speed up nvidia video?
[03:47] <moralless> How do i set a mountpoint for a new drive/edit /etc/fstab?
[03:47] <marke1> funny, because I watched one DVD just fine - the reloaded edgy and now it's gittery - default install - nothing special added
[03:47] <K-Ryan> moralless: Open up KDE Menu > System > KInforCenter
[03:47] <zblach> hi all. i've a bit of weirdness. i can't record sound from my microphone, it just seems to pipe input back through the speakers
[03:48] <K-Ryan> moralless: Once there goto the partitions tab
[03:48] <K-Ryan> Is it listed there?
[03:48] <zblach> heh. got it
[03:48] <K-Ryan> Anything else zblach?
[03:48] <moralless> K-Ryan: can't find it in there
[03:48] <zblach> still a nagging issue with kaddprinterwizard
[03:49] <K-Ryan> moralless: Partitions is on the left
[03:49] <moralless> i mean the program
[03:49] <K-Ryan> KInfoCenter is in KDE Menu > System
[03:49] <K-Ryan> 6th from the bottom
[03:50] <moralless> K-Ryan: found it, i had missed it, i'm using kickofff
[03:50] <zblach> it takes forever and a day to load, or kills kcontrol/system settings
[03:50] <K-Ryan> Strange zblach
[03:50] <K-Ryan> moralless: Under partitions, is it listed?
[03:50] <zblach> it didn't seem right
[03:50] <moralless> K-Ryan: no it isn't
[03:51] <marke1> brb
[03:51] <K-Ryan> Then I'm not sure what to do, sorry
[03:51] <moralless> K-Ryan: thanks for at least pointing me in the right direction
[03:52] <K-Ryan> I try
[03:52] <zblach> i take back what i said about the microphone. i'm still having issues
[03:52] <rubyat> morallis: a /home partition s/b set up in the install kubuntu phase....much easier than doing it later
[03:53] <moralless> rubyat: i have just gotten the drive, reinstalitation isn't an optiton anymore
[03:54] <moralless> intelikey: then tell me how.
[03:54] <intelikey> moralless you wanting to add the new drive as part of the system ?
[03:54] <moralless> yes, i want to mount it as /home
[03:54] <intelikey> tell me what you've got   and what you want to do with it
[03:55] <moralless> a maxtor 80GB drive, freshly formatted to ext3, and i want to set it to mount as /home, and move my current /home's data to it.
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> moralless: that shouldn't be too difficult
[03:56] <intelikey> nothing to it...
[03:56] <rubyat> you will need to use a partition tool like qparted then
[03:56] <moralless> i've got it
[03:56] <hitmanWilly> rubyat: no he won't, its already formatted
[03:56] <intelikey> moralless pastebin the output of    sudo fdisk -l   please and we'll tell ya how to do thta
[03:56] <intelikey> that
[03:57] <intelikey> rubyat ?   i don't think so...
[03:57] <moralless> Disk /dev/hda: 20.4 GB, 20491075584 bytes
[03:57] <moralless> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2491 cylinders
[03:57] <moralless> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> rubyat: seperate drive
[03:57] <moralless>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:57] <intelikey> wow wow
[03:57] <moralless> /dev/hda1   *           1        2382    19133383+  83  Linux
[03:57] <moralless> /dev/hda2            2383        2491      875542+   5  Extended
[03:57] <moralless> /dev/hda5            2383        2491      875511   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[03:57] <moralless> Disk /dev/hdc: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes
[03:57] <moralless> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders
[03:57] <moralless> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:57] <intelikey> this is not pastebin.
[03:57] <moralless>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:57] <moralless> /dev/hdc1               1        9964    80035798+  83  Linux
[03:57] <moralless> yeah
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> moralless: ok, that's good, that's good
[03:58] <intelikey> moralless sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /media
[03:58] <rubyat> sorry...I thought he wanted to make a /home on the same drive
[03:58] <moralless> it mounted
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> rubyat: honest mistake...:) that's the usual issue
[03:59] <intelikey> moralless open konqueror     make sure that 'show hidden files' is ticked in it's menu
[03:59] <moralless> does dolphin? work?
[03:59] <surgy> hi
[04:00] <surgy> heya hitman
[04:00] <intelikey> moralless ummm yeah....   are you the only user ?
[04:00] <intelikey> moralless i mean are there other user accounts or no ?
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> howdy fellow carbon-based lifeform
[04:00] <moralless> no other user accounts
[04:01] <intelikey> moralless ok lets do it this way       in the konsole: sudo cp -R /home/* /media
[04:01] <klobster> anyone know why my .asoundrc file locks up my CA0106 (audigy ls) sound card?
[04:01] <surgy> actually im based off of non carbons :) <<< from the planet vagina
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: he could always boot up into recovery to edit fstab and wipe /home
[04:02] <intelikey> hitmanWilly not needed.  but yeah
[04:02] <moralless> intelikey: it's copying...it's got a few gigs to copy
[04:03] <intelikey> moralless ok when it finishes     sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami` /media
[04:04] <moralless> intelikey: ok
[04:05] <intelikey> moralless    grep /dev/hdc /etc/fstab         (it should return nothing)
[04:05] <klobster> how do i start or stop a /etc file?
[04:05] <moralless> intelikey: it's still copying
[04:05] <intelikey> ok moralless tell me when you catch up.
[04:06] <intelikey> klobster startup scripts ?
[04:06] <flake> I had a weird error, I left my feisty on all night, tried to pull up a couple of items and gave me KDEinit could not open application, like the firefox webbrowser or the terminal utility
[04:06] <moralless> intelikey: ok, it's a older computer so....
[04:06] <flake> I installed an update and relogged in, it works now
[04:06] <klobster> intelikey: yes .asoundrc
[04:06] <klobster> well asound.conf
[04:07] <flake> where is the system log?
[04:07] <intelikey> klobster you don't.   that's a runtime configuration file
[04:07] <intelikey> flake /var/log/*
[04:07] <flake> ty
[04:07] <klobster> intelikey: will it run no matter th name? should I move it elsewher before reboot?
[04:07] <neoncode> Does anyone know how to read the tempriature of a Core 2 Duo? In Vista I can use a program to read the tempritures of the individual cores. Anyone got an idea of how to do the same thing in Linux?
[04:08] <flake> I did install a bunch of crap though and removed a couple of others, might have affected it
[04:08] <moralless> intelikey: i ran the grep command in another tab, and it did as you said
[04:08] <intelikey> klobster it doesn't  "run"   a program reads it when it starts
[04:08] <klobster> intelikey: so a name change should do it, no?  asound.conf >> old.asound.conf?
[04:09] <intelikey> moralless ok      echo '/dev/hdc1 /home ext3 defaults 0 0 ' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[04:10] <intelikey> klobster yes if you don't want it read then changing the name will stop it.
[04:10] <klobster> intelikey: and then a reboot?  really?
[04:10] <intelikey> klobster no
[04:10] <intelikey> klobster you could but you probably want to free up the space on your root partition first.
[04:11] <intelikey> wait sorry
[04:11] <klobster> ??
[04:11] <intelikey> klobster yes   name mismatch
[04:11] <intelikey> klobster thought that moralless asked that.... my bad.
[04:12] <klobster> that's alright.  ok I'm going down...
[04:12] <intelikey> klobster yes a reboot will then affect the changes
[04:12] <nzk> How can I get ubuntu to be faster?
[04:12] <moralless> intelikey: it echoed to the console
[04:12] <intelikey> moralless yes tee does that    it also wrote to the /etc/fstab file
[04:13] <intelikey> moralless    grep /dev/hdc /etc/fstab         (it should return the line you just entered within the quotes '')
[04:14] <moralless> intelikey: returned nothing.
[04:14] <intelikey> nzk depends on what you mean.    but generally triming ship helps a little.
[04:14] <nzk> intelikey, what do you mean
[04:15] <intelikey> moralless ok... you did copy and paste this whole command in......                                                                                           echo '/dev/hdc1 /home ext3 defaults 0 0 ' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[04:16] <intelikey> nzk not running things that you don't use/need   turning off eye-candy junk.   things like that.
[04:16] <moralless> intelikey: yeah, i guess it didn't go through, because i just ran it again, then greped it, and it returned results
[04:16] <nzk> How do I know if I need something or not
[04:17] <intelikey> moralless use the up arrow to see what the actual command you ran before was and compair      i'm thinking typo
[04:17] <intelikey> nzk trial and error ?
[04:18] <moralless> intelikey: it was a typo
[04:19] <intelikey> moralless yeah  "yeah, i guess it didn't go through,"  <<< there is extremely little chance of that... :)
[04:20] <khirr> i've installed apache...but where is my www folder?
[04:20] <moralless> intelikey: i know, i used to use Red Hat a few years back (i don't remember how to do any though)
[04:20] <kane_> khirr: /var/www/
[04:20] <khirr> can i wite there without sudo mode?
[04:20] <klobster> ok that restored sound, now to figure out why it broke it...
[04:20] <intelikey> moralless so was it in the last file name ?    if so you should delete the   "ftsab"  you just created by mistake   :)
[04:21] <moralless> intelikey: deleted, and it's still copying
[04:22] <kane_> khirr: no
[04:22] <kane_> its owned by www
[04:22] <intelikey> moralless ok.      let me ask you this question, while we wait.  "do you know anything about using a 'console' (tty) or is that totally foreign to you?"
[04:23] <kane_> khirr: you can add yourself to the www-date group though
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: good question, there...
[04:23] <kane_> er data
[04:23] <moralless> intelikey: i know a little bit, not enough to really do much though
[04:24] <xGrantx> ugh
[04:24] <xGrantx> how do I make beryl set itself as the win manager when it starts?
[04:24] <intelikey> moralless specificly witching from graphics mode to console mode and back ?      alt+ctrl+f1   and  alt+f7    ?
[04:24] <xGrantx> it starts but leaves KDE as the win manager
[04:25] <moralless> intelikey: yeah, but is there any real difference from using konsole or yakuake?
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> xGrantx: do you have beryl-manager installed?
[04:25] <xGrantx> yes
[04:25] <xGrantx> it starts
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> xGrantx: try switching from there
[04:25] <xGrantx> I do
[04:25] <xGrantx> but it's annoying
[04:26] <intelikey> moralless no not a lot.     but i'm asking because i'll want you to run a command in the console in a minute when the computer catches up but don't want you lost there
[04:26] <xGrantx> and then two kiba-docks start for no reason
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> xGrantx: there should be a way to set beryl as the default from there
[04:26] <xGrantx> I have nothing for kiba-dock in the Autostart directory
[04:26] <xGrantx> it shouldn't be starting
[04:26] <moralless> intelikey: ok
[04:27] <xGrantx> hitmanWilly: yea, I'll look through the Beryl settings
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> xGrantx: as far as the kiba issue, got no idea
[04:28] <xGrantx> hitmanWilly: well what other way does a program autostart?
[04:29] <xGrantx> besides being in the kde Autostart dir
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> xGrantx: i think beryl has some kind of autostart fuctionality as well, tho im not sure how it works
[04:30] <xGrantx> hmm
[04:30] <moralless> intelikey: It's Done.
[04:30] <redfive> beryl auto start is kinda funky
[04:30] <xGrantx> yes it is
[04:30] <redfive> i have 2 beryls starting when i log into kde
[04:30] <intelikey> moralless let me just give you the commands for the console you can write them down or what ever.     (only two of them)    1. sudo rm -r /home/`whoami` ;sudo mkdir -m 000 /home/`whoami`           2. sudo umount /media ;sudo mount /home
[04:30] <xGrantx> mine starts then doesn't switch to use beryl, so I have to manually switch
[04:31] <xGrantx> heh
[04:31] <redfive> ya, mine does that too
[04:31] <xGrantx> guess that's why this stuff is still under development
[04:31] <redfive> beryl is still in devlopment
[04:31] <xGrantx> so is kiba-dock
[04:31] <intelikey> moralless you will need to hit ctrl+alt+backspace   and when it gets to the login prompt drop to the console and run those two commands  then back to the gui and login.
[04:32] <intelikey> moralless that's the whole shbang.   all there was to it.
[04:32] <redfive> but i love beryl too much to trash talk it
[04:33] <marke> anybody here able to help with video performance ?
[04:33] <moralless> intelikey: ok, thanks, i'll come back in here and sat thanks again after i'm done
[04:33] <intelikey> moralless you did    sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami` /media                      like i said when it finishes copying    or did you skip that step ?
[04:34] <coreymon77> !ask | marke
[04:34] <ubotu> marke: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:34] <moralless> intelikey: doing it now
[04:34] <marke> lol
[04:34] <intelikey> i just remembered that that command was lost in the obscurity while we waited.....  :)
[04:34] <defcon_> what is the best easy way to install a ftpd on ubuntu?
[04:34] <moralless> intelikey: ok, it's done, i'll be back in a minute
[04:34] <marke> my video is slow - using nvidia-glx on a P3 laptop - 1GHz - 32MB vid RAM on GeForece2 card
[04:35] <marke> vid is gittery when watching a DVD
[04:35] <intelikey> ok
[04:35] <marke> Screen draws are a bit slow too
[04:35] <marke> Funny thing is that
[04:35] <marke> when I first boot the system stuff scrolls super fast in a shell, but
[04:35] <marke> after a few minutes it slows down
[04:35] <marke> ????
[04:36] <marke> using edgy - default install - only adds I made was nvidia-glx driver and some tools (firefox, tor, etc)
[04:36] <BenWhitey> hey
[04:36] <BenWhitey> is peter here?
[04:37] <marke> defcon: use apt or adept to install packages
[04:38] <intelikey> deselect aptitude or synaptic  are also options
[04:38] <intelikey> dselect  sorry
[04:38] <marke> defcon: try something like this in a shell "sudo apt-get install pure-ftpd"
[04:40] <intelikey> proftpd - Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon
[04:40] <defcon_> marke, is proftpd easy to configure
[04:40] <defcon_> or pureftpd
[04:40] <whitepyro> Man i love when people call me for pc help LOL
[04:40] <intelikey> vsftpd - The Very Secure FTP Daemon
[04:40] <marke> dunno - i use pure-ftpd - easy enough
[04:40] <whitepyro> friends hd just failed after 7 months moowah.....
[04:41] <intelikey> ftpd - FTP server
[04:41] <marke> why would my video run fast after loggin in to KDE but slow down after a few minutes?
[04:41] <intelikey> whitepyro send it to me and i'll use it another seven years
[04:41] <intelikey> :)
[04:42] <BenWhitey> lol
[04:42] <intelikey> marke memory leak
[04:42] <intelikey> system loading up.
[04:43] <marke> makes sense.  how come once I was able to watch a DVD no problem - then I reloaded edgy and now I can't. No difference in install - both default
[04:43] <marke> when i watch now it's gittery
[04:43] <marke> audio is good, screen looks like a slide show
[04:43] <intelikey> differance somewhere.
[04:44] <khirr> my wine startedup as win98, how can i startup it as XP?
[04:44] <whitepyro> intelikey: LOL windows fubarded his system as he tried to print.. Now thats funny
[04:44] <BenWhitey> was peter here earlier?
[04:44] <intelikey> whitepyro  ?
[04:44] <moralless> intelikey: everything's working great
[04:44] <intelikey> moralless yes and ?
[04:45] <intelikey> oh you are surprised   ?
[04:45] <intelikey> hmmm....
[04:45] <intelikey> :)
[04:45] <defcon_> I need a ftpd like servu for ubuntu
[04:45] <defcon_> easy to set up etc
[04:45] <defcon_> something I dont need to create a user on my box and get hacked
[04:45] <intelikey> ok all joking aside.   you're welcoma moralless
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> !ftp | defcon_
[04:45] <ubotu> defcon_: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[04:45] <moralless> intelikey: no, just happy, no i have room for my music and movies
[04:46] <RadiantFire> defcon_: ssh?
[04:46] <defcon_> !ftpd
[04:46] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[04:46] <defcon_> !vsftpd >>defcon
[04:46] <defcon_> !vsftpd >defcon
[04:46] <intelikey> moralless also you have a lot of free space in the system you can use as you need.
[04:46] <defcon_> !vsftpd > defcon
[04:46] <defcon_> hm
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> defcon_: try the !info flag
[04:47] <defcon_> !info vsftpd
[04:47] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 111 kB, installed size 408 kB
[04:47] <marke> ftp me over some performance :-)
[04:47] <moralless> intelikey: i know
[04:47] <marke> and some cash :-)
[04:47] <marke> lol
[04:48] <BenWhitey> so, is anyone good with wifi, madwifi, etc. ?
[04:48] <marke> Ben: what do you need?
[04:48] <intelikey> BenWhitey !i
[04:48] <BenWhitey> marke: i'm nto sure, i need help LOL
[04:48] <BenWhitey> i can't get my wifi working on my laptop
[04:48] <marke> me too - that's why I bought tequila .
[04:48] <BenWhitey> haha
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> BenWhitey: what model card?
[04:48] <marke> what card do you have?
[04:48] <BenWhitey> 1sec let me get it
[04:49] <marke> Three margaritas and counting....
[04:49] <BenWhitey>  AR5212
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> BenWhitey: what brand?
[04:49] <BenWhitey> i installed madwifi but it doesn't seem to help
[04:49] <BenWhitey> Atheros Communications
[04:49] <redfive> dam, i updated kubuntu and it panicked on bootup
[04:50] <intelikey> redfive it happens
[04:50] <marke> what's the problem you have with the ar5212?
[04:50] <redfive> glad i got it back
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> BenWhitey: have you tried checking it on google? there may be some known issues/workarounds
 I can't connect to my wireless network
[04:50] <BenWhitey> yeah
[04:50] <BenWhitey> ive tried
[04:50] <BenWhitey> ive tried installing madwifi drivers
[04:50] <BenWhitey> i can't seem to get it to work
[04:50] <redfive> thers no system restore in linux
[04:50] <marke> you using WEP or WPA?
[04:50] <BenWhitey> nope, open network
[04:51] <marke> does the card show in the System Settings -> Network ?
[04:51] <intelikey> redfive no we just reload.  :)
[04:51] <BenWhitey> yes
[04:51] <redfive> ya!
[04:51] <BenWhitey> i can scan and see the network i want to connect to and my neighbors networks
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: or reinstall :)
[04:51] <marke> so that means the system sees the card and loads drivers.
[04:51] <redfive> its a fun activity
[04:51] <intelikey> Q.   what do linux users do?
[04:51] <intelikey> A.   they install software.
[04:51] <marke> so you need to enter the SSID, right?  What happens when you do that ?
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:52] <intelikey> :)
[04:52] <intelikey> i'm out for a while.
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> and waste a lot of time on irc...
[04:52] <intelikey> hitmanWilly that too
[04:52] <BenWhitey> yeah
[04:52] <BenWhitey> i did
[04:52] <intelikey> hitmanWilly you and Jucato take care of while i'm gone,   k
[04:52] <BenWhitey> it doesn't connect
[04:52] <marke> Ben: paste in your /etc/network/interfaces here....
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> gotcha...
[04:53] <BenWhitey> i'm on windows
[04:53] <BenWhitey> lol
[04:53] <RadiantFire> not here... on a pastebin
[04:53] <BenWhitey> yeah
[04:53] <BenWhitey> i know
[04:53] <marke> wherever
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> BenWhitey: does the router have some kind of filtering set up?
[04:54] <RadiantFire> BenWhitey: so I'm sorry, you can see the networks but can't join them?
[04:54] <BenWhitey> in windows it works great
[04:54] <RadiantFire> BenWhitey: what goes wrong in linux? you just can't connect?
[04:55] <BenWhitey> yeah
[04:55] <BenWhitey> it stalls at 28%
[04:55] <redfive> linux users compile softwaer
[04:55] <marke> in your interfaces file you outta see something under ath0 probably that has wireless-essid and possibly wireless-key
[04:55] <BenWhitey> no
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> BenWhitey: how long do you let it sit?
[04:55] <BenWhitey> yeah
[04:55] <BenWhitey> a long time
[04:55] <BenWhitey> it fials
[04:55] <BenWhitey> and just says disconnected
[04:55] <BenWhitey> everything in interfaces is auto
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> BenWhitey: does it give any other info? or just the 28%?
[04:57] <marke> Ben: you can try manually putting in your ssid and then restarting the networking - I've had to do that before with my Atheros
[04:58] <RadiantFire> BenWhitey: what kind of card is it?
[04:58] <marke> RF: Atheros - AR5212
[04:58] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/5qDfqT72.html
[04:59] <RadiantFire> roflmao, parsed as c++, I am amused
[04:59] <RadiantFire> anyway
[04:59] <BenWhitey> lol
[04:59] <BenWhitey> thats the one i always use
[04:59] <RadiantFire> i'm a bad coder, I forgot what the auto keyword does
[04:59] <BenWhitey> easy for me to remember its site for some reason
[04:59] <RadiantFire> BenWhitey: have you tried doing it form the terminal... I've had network manager flake out on me before
[04:59] <BenWhitey> yes
[05:00] <kane_> Hey i think i just wiped my partion that had my grub, i have another grub on this partion here, how do i make sure that this grub will be loaded
[05:00] <BenWhitey> i have tried many things
[05:00] <kane_> you get what im saying?
[05:00] <RadiantFire> BenWhitey: what does dhclient say?
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> kane_: set up to boot from the drive its on in bios
[05:00] <BenWhitey> ok this is going ot be a pain to type out
[05:00] <kane_> hrm ok.
[05:00] <BenWhitey> lol
[05:01] <BenWhitey> gimme a few min
[05:01] <marke> Ben: Under the "auto ath0" -> "iface" lines, add a line like this: wireless-essid myrouterssid - where myrouterssid is the name of the router
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> kane_: if possible, don't change the drive order, just boot from that drive, changing drive order can screw up grub
[05:02] <kane_> yeah i dont think i changed the drive order, i just had installed PClinuxOS on another partion and it was using that version of grub to boot.
[05:02] <kane_> but i just wiped that partion out.
[05:02] <BenWhitey> yeah
[05:02] <BenWhitey> ok
[05:03] <BenWhitey> do you still want me to type out dhclient?
[05:03] <BenWhitey> or should i do that first and try dhclient again
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> kane_: worst case scenario is it doesn't boot right, maybe give you an error 15
[05:03] <marke> Ben: if you add that line to your interfaces file, then restart networking "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" then start
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> kane_: in that case you'll need to edit grub's config files to change the drives around
[05:03] <BenWhitey> so i add it underneath the iface line?
[05:04] <BenWhitey> just want to make sure i don't screw up
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> marke: he could just use the restart option too
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> marke: ie /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:05] <BenWhitey> ok
[05:05] <kane_> hitmanWilly: not menu.lst, im i looking for the device map?
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> kane_: just change around menu.lst to reflect the new drive order
[05:06] <BenWhitey> i just did sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> kane_: ie changing hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) or whatever
[05:07] <kane_> ah
[05:07] <kane_> ok
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> kane_: grub just goes off of the bios drive order
[05:07] <BenWhitey> ok it didn't work
[05:07] <kane_> hrm. i see.
[05:07] <BenWhitey> its a really long paste though
[05:07] <kane_> thanks muchly
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> np :)
[05:08] <klobster> what is the sound system that Kubuntu uses by default?  and how do I restart it?
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> klobster: kde or the entire system?
[05:09] <kane_> klobster: well if you are using kde youre prolly thinking of arts.
[05:09] <BenWhitey> that didn't work
[05:10] <klobster> Not sure the one I restart in the sound system control panel?
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> klobster: ok, that's arts
[05:10] <klobster> thank you.  How do i restart it?
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> klobster: artsd is the daemon
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> klobster: disable then reenable the sound system in kcontrol
[05:11] <BenWhitey> any ideas guys???
[05:11] <klobster> hitmanWilly that's how it got locked up...
[05:12] <marke> you got the right ssid in the ath0 section on a line by itself?
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> klobster: killall artsd then rerun it
[05:12] <BenWhitey> yup
[05:12] <BenWhitey> wireless-essid unique
[05:12] <marke> you sure the router isn't requiring wep or wpa?
[05:12] <BenWhitey> yes
[05:12] <BenWhitey> positive
[05:12] <kane_> BenWhitey: and are you sure your neighbors are not using mac filtering?
[05:13] <BenWhitey> open network
[05:13] <BenWhitey> i'm connecting to my open network
[05:13] <dr_willis> Hmm.  i wonder how many other people are checking out the Dell Linux box's
[05:13] <BenWhitey> i'm just too lazy to secure it, and i don't really care if people use it
[05:13] <dr_willis> laptop they offer dosent seem too bad.
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: not me, i build my own :)
[05:13] <kane_> dr_willis: id like to pick up the laptop.
[05:13] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  so do i.. but i cant beat their  prices.
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: plus i have some issues with the crap hardware dell sends out
[05:14] <marke> lemme check something
[05:14] <BenWhitey> i got a lenovo tablet for like 1900$ including shipping and tax, 1.83 core duo 100gb 7200rpm drive
[05:14] <dr_willis> been having the same  build your own/buy arguments all week.
[05:14] <BenWhitey> its pretty sick
[05:14] <BenWhitey> now if i could just get the wifi working it would be perfect
[05:14] <klobster> HitmanWilly do i need to sudo the artsd daemon?  (BTW: the dellbuntu boxen look pretty nice)
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> klobster: i dont think so, but maybe
[05:15] <kane_> BenWhitey: what card are you using.
[05:15] <klobster> decent dellbunut lappies start at what 590?
[05:15] <marke> under System Settings -> Network Settings, what is the "interface" name?
[05:15] <dr_willis> dell one i just priced was $888
[05:15] <klobster> *dellbuntu
[05:15] <dr_willis> dident go all out for the high end. :) just upgraded a few.
[05:16] <klobster> with sudo I got this error:
[05:16] <klobster> Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
[05:16] <klobster> can't create mcop directory
[05:16] <dr_willis> compared to some of the other dell systems. theur linux boxs are more customizeable..
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> "dude, you're gettin' ubuntu!!"
[05:16] <BenWhitey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=450987
[05:16] <BenWhitey> thats my post from earlier
[05:16] <BenWhitey> has a whole bunch of info
[05:16] <BenWhitey> nobody really answered it
[05:17] <BenWhitey> but i installed kubuntu again
[05:17] <BenWhitey> so the interface file is different
[05:17] <BenWhitey> but the rest i think is generally the same
[05:17] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how I would go about installing Wolfenstein Enemy Territory?
[05:17] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  i installed it ages ago.
[05:17] <klobster> ok cant be artsd, because it is still locked.
[05:17] <kane_> BenWhitey: have you just tried the tool provided with your ubuntu install?
 which tool?
[05:18] <BenWhitey> knetworkmanager ?
[05:18] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: I can only find an executable for download on the website.
[05:18] <kane_> i'm trying to remember...
 on my previous instalation it woudln't even open. on this one it opens
[05:18] <K-Ryan> Google around for a Linux version I guess?
[05:18] <kane_> its not knetworkmanger.
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> klobster: have you tried restarting X?
[05:18] <BenWhitey> i'm using madwifi drivers
[05:18] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  check that linux gamers tome site
[05:18] <BenWhitey> but they didn't change anything
[05:19] <lascar> dr_willis: good evening
[05:19] <ardchoille> How do I disable certain keys? I want to disable the printscreen key.
[05:19] <dr_willis> disable it from doing what?
[05:19] <ardchoille> From working
 any ideas?
[05:19] <dr_willis> never noticed it doing much. :)
[05:20] <ardchoille> The printscreen key launches ksnapshot
[05:20] <klobster> HitmanWilly: I know that will work, I have been trying to refrain from the bad habits I picked up from windows.
[05:20] <marke> Ben: under the System Settings -> Networking Settings, what
[05:20] <marke> is the "interface" name listed there for your card?
[05:20] <dr_willis> check the keybinding/settings under kde yet? thats a kde feature.
[05:20] <ko12upt> anyone know how i can turn this into a panel its just some icons .png for now so everyone can see what im doing this is in ubuntu but i dont think anyone in there knows how this is what im doing anyone intrested in helping me with some questions i have http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/24/f_Screenshotm_af2b97c.png look at this first the bottom is suppose to be a customized pannel but its not its icons put together i want to mak
[05:20] <ko12upt> e a panel from this any help would be appreciated ] 
 yup
 it is enabled
[05:21] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Already disabled it there a long time ago, seems the kb shortcut is still in effect.
[05:21] <dr_willis> id say ask in #kde
 but it does have IP 169.254.5.58
[05:21] <dr_willis> may be getting used by some other task/settings
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> klobster: an X restart isn't really a bad habit unless the error repeats itself multiple times, then you have config issues
[05:21] <BenWhitey> maybe i should change the IP manually
[05:21] <BenWhitey> but i don't want to mess anything up
[05:21] <marke> 169..x.x.x is the auto config network - for when a card can't get an address otherwise.
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> klobster: not a reboot, just restarting X
[05:21] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Ah, ok, thanks
[05:21] <BenWhitey> yeah
[05:22] <BenWhitey> ok, so should i manually configure it
[05:22] <marke> when you see that addy it means the card can't talk on the network using DHCP to get an address
[05:22] <kane_> BenWhitey: ah found it wlassistant was the tool i was thinking off.
[05:22] <marke> no, manual config won't help you unless you can connect to the router - so what's the interface name? eth0 or ath0?
 does that come with the default install?
[05:22] <kane_> ive had good luck with in in the past.
[05:22] <BenWhitey> ath0
[05:23] <BenWhitey> or do i need to install it via apt-get
[05:23] <kane_> it came with my girlfriends default install but i dont see it on mine.
[05:23] <kane_> i just apt got it.
[05:23] <marke> so ath0 shows up in the System Settings -> Network Settings?
 yes with a 169.*.*.* IP
[05:23] <BenWhitey> do you have the code to get it?
[05:24] <BenWhitey> (i'm new to linux)
[05:24] <marke> OK - so when you put the wireless-essid name in interfaces you put that under the ath0 section?
[05:24] <BenWhitey> i di
[05:24] <BenWhitey> nothing changed
[05:24] <BenWhitey> yup
[05:24] <kane_> BenWhitey: sudo apt-get install wlassistant
[05:24] <marke> i've had similar trouble. I manually put my essid in the interfaces file, and rebooted, and it worked. had to reboot though because of some unknown issue with the network layer.
[05:25] <kane_> linux wireless support is a litte underwhelming.
[05:25] <lascar> how do i get root-level access to a kubuntu distro from a live cd?
[05:25] <aalleva> Hola!
[05:25] <dr_willis> wirelss support under all os's is underwhelming...
[05:25] <kane_> lascar: you start out with it if i recall.
[05:25] <kane_> dr_willis: agreed.
[05:25] <lascar> i don't
[05:25] <aalleva> Hola!! alguien q hable espaol?
[05:25] <kane_> but i think linux has it worse.
[05:25] <dr_willis> perhaps with wireless-n the companies will get their acts together.
[05:26] <BenWhitey> ok
[05:26] <K-Ryan> !es | aalleva
[05:26] <ubotu> aalleva: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:26] <BenWhitey> should i try rebooting?
[05:26] <aalleva> gracias!
[05:26] <BenWhitey> or should i try wlassistant first?
[05:26] <kane_> BenWhitey: either or.  Ive found rebooting sometimes helps with wireless issues.
[05:26] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: I found a .x86.run, will that work?
[05:26] <kane_> for some crazy reazon.
[05:26] <BenWhitey> ok
[05:26] <BenWhitey> i'll reboot first
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> everyone seems to think that windows support is better, but that's just because companies write software add on drivers for it
[05:26] <marke> I would try rebooting, ya. Make sure the wireless-essid is still in your interfaces file in case the GUI took it out. Then reboot.
[05:27] <kane_> hitmanWilly: of course.
[05:27] <kane_> still doesnt change that the linux has it worse off.
[05:27] <BenWhitey> ok
[05:27] <marke> ubuntu wifi support is pretty good compared to some other distros I've seen.
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> if windows had to stand on its own like nix does, it wouldn't even be worth the DVD's it came on
[05:27] <BenWhitey> rebooting, lets see what happens
[05:27] <kane_> i agree.
[05:27] <kane_> ive used linux soley for about 5 or 6 years.
[05:27] <marke> ya, keeping chatting with us while you reboot :-)
[05:27] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  run it and see. :) it may be a self-installing-executable. I advice installing it just for the one user
[05:27] <kane_> and windows XP has some pretty intresting wireless issues.
[05:27] <BenWhitey> it does
[05:28] <BenWhitey> but it has better driver support IMO
[05:28] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: Well I mean it's a big file I'd like to know if it would work before waiting all that time =P
[05:28] <K-Ryan> But I'll try
[05:28] <marke> XP means Xtra Speshul
[05:28] <kane_> oh yeah it does. linux will ge tthere though.
[05:28] <dr_willis> kane_,  yea.. gotta love it when you need to decide to use 'the windows tools' or the 'wireless card makers' tools.
[05:28] <kane_> its made huge strides in the last few years.
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> and neither works right :)
[05:28] <kane_> dr_willis: agreed.  i do support for some wireless modems.
[05:28] <kane_> and they intefere with each other.
[05:28] <lascar> and with dell working with Canonical for their Linux pcs...
[05:28] <kane_> its pretty hot.
[05:28] <dr_willis> kane_,  my idea of 'wireless support' is to  run wires. :)
[05:29] <kane_> yeah i'm a big fan of wired anyway.  Wireless to me is kinda shady
[05:29] <BenWhitey> wtf
[05:29] <BenWhitey> my laptop won't turn on
[05:29] <marke> wireless is basically microwave - and that is VERY bad for DNA and brain cells....
[05:29] <BenWhitey> i typed "reboot" into console
[05:29] <BenWhitey> sudo reboot
[05:29] <dr_willis> kane_,  ubuntu got my laptop wireless going. :)
[05:29] <BenWhitey> and its died or something
[05:29] <lascar> marke: wireless = radio waves
[05:29] <kane_> i managed to get my girls wireless going well too, i think its using ath chipset.
[05:30] <K-Ryan> Hey guys when I get a new computer do you think I'd be able to ask for no Vista and get a lower price?
[05:30] <ko12upt> this is what im doing anyone intrested in helping me with some questions i have http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/24/f_Screenshotm_af2b97c.png look at this first the bottom is suppose to be a customized pannel but its not its icons put together i want to make a panel from this any help would be appreciated
[05:30] <marke> wireless = radio waves = Ghz spectrum = microwaves spectrum = DNA damage and brain cells damage
[05:30] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  doubtfull
[05:30] <kane_> K-Ryan: you should check out the ubuntu dells, maybe.
[05:30] <BenWhitey> any idea how to turn on my laptop?
[05:30] <dr_willis> looking at the ubuntu-dells right now. :)
[05:30] <dr_willis> not badly priced.
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: good luck, of course you could always ask for a refund from M$
[05:30] <BenWhitey> the power button doesn't seem to be working
[05:30] <K-Ryan> BenWhitey: Button?
[05:31] <RadiantFire> i am made sad that kubuntu isn't on them... at least they are guaranteed to work with linux if it comes preinstalled, and thats enough for me
[05:31] <marke> wtf?  take the battery out - unplug the laptop - plug it all back in and try again
[05:31] <lascar> marke: ghz spectrum includes a variety of waves, including gamma.  some are more damaging than others, obviously.  But wi-fi isn't one of those.
[05:31] <K-Ryan> How good is a Dell?
[05:31] <BenWhitey> what does "reboot" do in console?
[05:31] <RadiantFire> reboots the computer
[05:31] <K-Ryan> I've only had a Gateway and this Sony Vaio
[05:31] <RadiantFire> it is an alias for shutdown -r now
[05:31] <BenWhitey> hmm
[05:31] <BenWhitey> thats what i did
[05:31] <marke> reboot shuts down the OS and makes it re-post from BIOS
[05:31] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  reasonable i hear.
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: they were crap last time i tried one
[05:31] <BenWhitey> and it seems to have died
[05:31] <kane_> K-Ryan: the ubuntu tells start off 100 buicks cheaper.
[05:32] <ko12upt> im taking it as no one knows how to do this
[05:32] <kane_> K-Ryan: ive had good luck with them, but i normally build my own.
[05:32] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: How long ago was it?
[05:32] <marke> if you decide to toss it send it to me :-)
[05:32] <K-Ryan> kane_: That's kind of an option here, to be honest I've got everything I want but I need a better processor.
[05:32] <marke> I have 4 Dell laptops ... pretty good so far - 6 years later
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: about the height of the dude campaign, a friend had one...forget which model...complete crap
[05:32] <kane_> K-Ryan: i would just pick up another proc then.
[05:32] <ko12upt> this is what im doing anyone intrested in helping me with some questions i have http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/24/f_Screenshotm_af2b97c.png look at this first the bottom is suppose to be a customized pannel but its not its icons put together i want to make a panel from this any help would be appreciated
[05:33] <ko12upt> check this out does anyone know how to turn taht into a panelk
[05:33] <ko12upt> panel
[05:33] <marke> Ben: did you take out the battery and power chord?
[05:33] <K-Ryan> Oh yeah, did I mention my dvd drive is stuck, my cd drive is becoming stuck, and they're riveted in the case...
 no, the battery light is on
[05:33] <K-Ryan> I forget about that sometimes because I'm so used to it not working...
[05:33] <marke> is the machine powered off?
[05:33] <RadiantFire> i'm not sure what exactly do you want ko12upt?
 i don't know
[05:34] <marke> is the drive light on?
 the light is suppsed to go off when its off, but its on
[05:34] <marke> or blinking?
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: riveted!?! wtf is that S***
 the hard drive is not blinking
 it is solid on
[05:34] <K-Ryan> Well the drives aren't, but they're in a section that you can't get them out of.
 it is the battery light
[05:34] <K-Ryan> It's bs
[05:34] <BenWhitey> wait
[05:34] <marke> if you think there's no disk IO and then force it to turn off by holding the power button down for several secs - that might work - it works on Dell
[05:34] <BenWhitey> it is humming
[05:34] <BenWhitey> so it must be on
[05:34] <dr_willis> because it dosent know the words?
[05:34] <BenWhitey> maybe its hybernating
[05:34] <kane_> yeah that works with almost all new computers.
[05:34] <BenWhitey> hibernating
[05:35] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: hahaha
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: that has to be a deliberate tactic to force you to buy a new one when something simple breaks...no other explanation
[05:35] <klobster> ko12upt do you want to add another panel, or custom design a panel?
[05:35] <ko12upt> custom design
[05:35] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: Probably
[05:35] <ko12upt> look at that link
[05:35] <ko12upt> this is what im doing anyone intrested in helping me with some questions i have http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/8/5/24/f_Screenshotm_af2b97c.png look at this first the bottom is suppose to be a customized pannel but its not its icons put together i want to make a panel from this any help would be appreciated
[05:35] <marke> well if it's doing hibernating then wake it back up and reboot.
[05:35] <BenWhitey> exclelent
[05:35] <BenWhitey> i held down the button and it works
[05:35] <ko12upt> take a look at it thats just a link for now so you can see what im doing
[05:36] <marke> that's a secret - don't tell anyone :-)
[05:36] <adrian> hola
[05:36] <ko12upt> my panel isnt done yet and i need to figure out how to turn it into one
[05:36] <K-Ryan> Hola adrian
[05:36] <kane_> ko
[05:36] <adrian> puedo hacer una consulta?
[05:36] <K-Ryan> !es | adrian
[05:36] <kane_> ko12upt: how are you trying to do that, exactly?
[05:36] <ubotu> adrian: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:36] <adrian> estoy conectandome por un modem usb adsl
[05:36] <K-Ryan> Thought ubotu was broken again...
[05:36] <ko12upt> i need to mask it
[05:37] <ko12upt> but i dont know how
[05:37] <ko12upt> lol kane you like that they are just icons
[05:37] <ko12upt> placed together
[05:37] <BenWhitey> ok, i'm still not on the net
[05:37] <ko12upt> neat effect too bad they dont work yet
[05:37] <BenWhitey> i'll try installing that thingy
[05:38] <BenWhitey> sudo apt-get install wlassistant
[05:38] <ko12upt> this is in gnome so i dont know if you guys know anything about this im
[05:38] <adrian> hola?
[05:38] <K-Ryan> Do you guys think it would be cheaper to get a new motherboard(because the processor probably wouldn't work on the current one), new dvd drive, or just a new computer?
[05:38] <ko12upt> just fustrated no one has any ideas
[05:38] <K-Ryan> !es|adrian
[05:38] <ubotu> adrian: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:38] <ko12upt> and i cant find a tutorial
[05:38] <maltaethiron> Hey, what's the sudo apt-get command for flash?
[05:39] <maltaethiron> for firefox*
[05:39] <kane_> ko12upt: sorry i still dont really understand what you are trying to do per se...
[05:39] <K-Ryan> Err, new motherboard+processor+dvd drive
[05:39] <maltaethiron> like, flash for firefox
[05:39] <adrian> si, si, pero una pregunta, estoy conectado, pero no puedo navegar, hago ping y anda, q puede ser, los DNS andan bien
[05:39] <Sergo-Kubuntu> !time
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <kane_> maltaethiron: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:39] <kane_> i think.
[05:39] <kane_> i always install it via automatix now-a-days.
[05:39] <K-Ryan> Personas de mucho ayuda estan en #kubuntu-es
[05:39] <maltaethiron> thanks
[05:40] <BenWhitey> ok, connecting to my network failed
[05:40] <ko12upt> Kane im trying to turn that into a panel, Right now its just a couple of icons over a transparent panel im trying to turn those images into a panel
[05:40] <BenWhitey> should i manually configure it?
[05:40] <K-Ryan> Personas aqui no hablan espanol, lo siento
[05:40] <ko12upt> I just placed them like that so you can get an idea of what it will look like
[05:40] <marke> Ben: I would manually config it and then try restarting the network layer "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" and start
[05:40] <adrian> ok, gracias
[05:40] <K-Ryan> de nada ;)
[05:40] <marke> or if you use the GUI to do the config then it will restart networking for you
[05:41] <BenWhitey> kk
[05:41] <kane_> ko12upt: i must be stupid, because i dont see any icons in that picture.  Just import down at the bottom.
[05:41] <marke> did you DL wlassistant and try that yet?/
[05:42] <ko12upt> yes
[05:42] <ko12upt> thats an icon
[05:42] <BenWhitey> yeah
[05:42] <BenWhitey> i'm using it now
[05:42] <ko12upt> so is the other one next to it
[05:42] <BenWhitey> what do i put as broadcast? 192.168.1.255?
[05:42] <marke> OK, I don't know if wlassistant will restart the net - never used it -
[05:42] <ko12upt> thats not a panel i want those images to be a panel
[05:42] <marke> one sec...
[05:42] <kane_> ko12upt: could you not get one of the many docker type applications and just use a custom background?
[05:43] <marke> ya i think it's .255
[05:43] <ko12upt> nope :P im makeing this definate
[05:43] <BenWhitey> ok let me try
[05:43] <kane_> outside of doing that kind of think, i'm thinking you would require some serious coding.
[05:43] <BenWhitey> whats netmask?
[05:43] <BenWhitey> is that subnet mask?
[05:43] <dr_willis> anyone recall the name of this embeded-linux device i saw the other day.. looked sort of like a pillow-deskclock you could program
[05:44] <marke> manual config - oh - right - you can do that but unless you can connect to the router it won't work - most likely.
[05:44] <dr_willis> cumly chumbly chunbely?
[05:44] <marke> netmask is probably 255.255.255.0
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> BenWhitey: try 255.255.2555.0
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> er 255.255.255.0
[05:44] <BenWhitey> yea, well the dhcp connection fails
[05:44] <BenWhitey> yeah
[05:44] <kane_> BenWhitey: can you connect to the network in windows?
[05:45] <kane_> or, does this tablet connect to any other networks?
[05:45] <marke> or do you have another card you can try?
[05:49] <BenWhitey> god
[05:49] <BenWhitey> yes
[05:49] <BenWhitey> sorry my mom was being a BITCH and took over my comptuer so she could write some email
[05:49] <BenWhitey> ok what do i put for domain?
[05:49] <BenWhitey> in windows its fine
[05:49] <BenWhitey> linux is the only issue
[05:49] <BenWhitey> i can scan and see all the networks around
[05:50] <BenWhitey> and i see them in wireless assistant
[05:50] <BenWhitey> but i can't connect
[05:51] <BenWhitey> what do i put for domain?
[05:52] <BenWhitey> no i don't hvae another card
[05:52] <BenWhitey> it works fine in windows
[05:52] <BenWhitey> perfect 48 or 54mbps connection
[05:52] <lascar> nobody knows how toi get root-level access to a kubuntu distro from a live cd?
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> BenWhitey: have you tried connecting via the cmd line? seeing what errors get spit out?
[05:52] <marke> that's interesting - could be DHCP problem, maybe. This is a clean install ?
[05:52] <ardchoille> lascar: When running the livecd, just use sudo
[05:53] <BenWhitey> yup
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> reinstall dhcpd?
[05:53] <lascar> not root, but the access to the hd
[05:53] <BenWhitey> its a clean install
[05:53] <K-Ryan> !midi
[05:53] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[05:53] <marke> did you ever check output from dhclient taht someone suggested? I forget
[05:53] <BenWhitey> i didn't type it up
[05:53] <BenWhitey> its soo long
[05:54] <BenWhitey> i'll connect my ethernet and paste it in
[05:54] <ardchoille> lascar: I did this yesterday showing off Ubuntu: sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[05:54] <BenWhitey> 1sec
[05:54] <kane_> BenWhitey: try typing: dhclient ath0
[05:54] <BenWhitey> so hold up
[05:54] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, midi files, TiMidity++ ?
[05:54] <BenWhitey> should i stop with the manual config with wireless assistant?
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> kane_: i think he meant the paste was to long to hand type out
[05:54] <marke> i would, ya. set it to DHCP.
[05:55] <Sergo-Kubuntu> what is the time now
[05:55] <kane_> no, i know.  Ive had to do it on wireless cards before though, running the dhclient again.
[05:55] <marke> manual config gives your card an addy but the card has nowhere to send traffic. so it doesn't help.
[05:55] <BenWhitey> ok
[05:55] <marke> on wired card that might help, but not wifi
[05:55] <lascar> ardchoille: brb
[05:55] <kane_> BenWhitey: if all else fails you can try ndiswrapper
[05:56] <BenWhitey> ok
[05:56] <klobster> ko12upt: ok you asked a gnome question in a kde channel, but I almost have an answer for you so hold on
[05:56] <ko12upt> klobster k
[05:57] <ko12upt> thanks sorry i have three channels open and im a little tired :)
[05:57] <marke> ndiswrapper is a wrapper for Windows drivers isn't it?
[05:57] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/909jrw12.html
[05:57] <ko12upt> yes
[05:57] <BenWhitey> damn it, i typed it wrong
[05:57] <ko12upt> marke it uses the windows drivers ndiswrapper -i then the driver
[05:58] <K-Ryan> Is there a system behind how people's names get colored in Konversation? I've noticed that people always have the same color name?
[05:58] <K-Ryan> Err, the second part wasn't a question.
[05:58] <ko12upt> marke it has to be an .inf file though and if there are cabinets you need to extract them
[05:58] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/909Jrw12.html
[05:58] <ko12upt> using unshield
[05:58] <BenWhitey> there we go
[05:58] <Jack333> hwo do i change the default midi port to timidity
[05:59] <Jack333> like when i try to play midi, i hear nothing , but if i use a command for timidity and then set the program to timidity port, it works
[05:59] <Jack333> but this one midi app i have doesnt let me select alternate ports
[05:59] <Jack333> so how can i make timidity the default midi port/player thing
[06:00] <marke> you don't happen to have a firewall blocking port 67 do you ben?
[06:00] <ko12upt> BenWhitey do this iwconfig
[06:00] <ko12upt> and paste out the file
[06:00] <klobster> ko12upt: I don't know much about gnome, but I believe this should point the way for you: http://www.natewelch.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=41
[06:00] <BenWhitey> i don't think so
[06:01] <BenWhitey> you mean in kubuntu?
[06:01] <ko12upt> and paste out the input to pastebin
[06:01] <ko12upt> BenWhitey iwconfig then paste out the read out to pastebin
[06:02] <klobster> ko12upt: elseif install avant?
[06:02] <ko12upt> klobster
[06:02] <ko12upt> think that just might work
[06:02] <oldwest> Hi All - trying to watch Divx using Firefox - Have following players etc. installed - running edgy - Gxine - Kaffeine w/mozilla plugins - KMplayer - Mplayer - VLC Media Player - Xine movie player w/mozilla PLUGINS _ w32codecs - Any idea's - Not sure what to try next ? ? ?
[06:02] <ko12upt> ill leave the panel below it and see if i can make it work
[06:02] <BenWhitey> wtf, pastebin isn't working
[06:03] <marke> ya - if you did a default install there's nothing block port 67 - do iwconfig and paste the output, ko12upt suggested.
[06:03] <ko12upt> ben where does it say you have a connection
[06:03] <kane_> oldwest: i think you need mplayerplug-in
[06:03] <BenWhitey> ath0
[06:03] <ko12upt> theres your problem
[06:03] <BenWhitey> 1 Mb/s connection
[06:04] <ko12upt> iwconfig ath0 essid then your essid
[06:04] <BenWhitey> 802.11g
[06:04] <BenWhitey> ive done that
[06:04] <BenWhitey> it says the essid in iwconfig
[06:04] <oldwest> kane - have mplayer and all dependencies i believe
[06:04] <ko12upt> iwconfig ath0 key restricted then key here
[06:04] <BenWhitey> open network
[06:04] <kane_> no, mplayerplug-in is the mozilla plugin for mplayer.
[06:04] <ko12upt> iwconfig ath0 mode Managed
[06:04] <ko12upt> Ben then do this
[06:04] <BenWhitey> its already managed
[06:05] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/QgoyPC81.html
[06:05] <ko12upt> iwconfig ath0 essid and type it here iwconfig ath0 mode Managed then type dhcpcd ath0
[06:05] <ko12upt> your done
[06:05] <ko12upt> ben just do that
[06:05] <ko12upt> or if dhcpcd doesnt work
[06:05] <ko12upt> do ifdown ath0
[06:05] <BenWhitey> ive done all that before
[06:05] <ko12upt> then do ifup ath0
[06:05] <klobster> ko12upt: leave the panel below?  It looked like it would use your custom graphic AS the panel, no?
[06:05] <BenWhitey> i'm happy to do it again
[06:06] <ko12upt> yea
[06:06] <ko12upt> klobster it will
[06:06] <BenWhitey> did you look at my iwconfig ?
[06:06] <ko12upt> hold on
[06:06] <klobster> ko12upt: oh.  Actually thats a neat idea, i may have to look into it for the K'
[06:06] <ko12upt> BenWhitey jsut do as i say
[06:06] <BenWhitey> hah
[06:06] <ko12upt> trust me
[06:06] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:06] <BenWhitey> i'll try it
[06:06] <ko12upt> yea
[06:07] <oldwest> kane - what should i search for in synapitics?
[06:07] <ko12upt> thats just saying that your wireless is working
[06:07] <ko12upt> or your eth is working
[06:07] <ko12upt> if you type that out it will work
[06:07] <ko12upt> klobster like that hu
[06:07] <kane_> oldwest: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer should do it.
[06:07] <ko12upt> and i did the graphics with gimp
[06:08] <ko12upt> Klobster you should be able to do it in kubuntu add a panel remove the old one make the new panel transparent then make some icons like i did
[06:08] <ko12upt> and adjust them to your needs
[06:09] <BenWhitey> ok it didn't work
[06:09] <BenWhitey> i'll give you the full paste
[06:09] <klobster> yeah, it seemed simple enough after reading that.  I really liked the background, you did that yourself?
[06:10] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/iyqXtV50.html
[06:10] <ko12upt> BenWhitey iwconfig ath0 essid unique then  iwconfig ath0 mode Managed then dhcpcd ath0 if dhcpcd isnt there then this step sudo apt-get install dhcpcd then do the dhcpcd ath0
[06:10] <BenWhitey> i did
[06:10] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:10] <BenWhitey> i'll apt-get it
[06:10] <BenWhitey> did you look at my paste?
[06:10] <ko12upt> BenWhitey
[06:10] <ko12upt> sudo apt-get install dhcpcd
[06:11] <BenWhitey> ok done
[06:11] <BenWhitey> installed it
[06:11] <ko12upt> then follow above
[06:11] <BenWhitey> let me redo those commands
[06:11] <ko12upt> hold on
[06:11] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:11] <ko12upt> before you get to dhcpcd do this ifdown ath0
[06:11] <BenWhitey> kk
[06:13] <BenWhitey> should i disconnect my ethernet for this?
[06:13] <BenWhitey> would it make a difference?
[06:13] <BenWhitey> trying to connect to the router wireless when i'm already conneced via wire
[06:13] <ko12upt> no
[06:13] <ko12upt> its fine
[06:13] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:14] <BenWhitey> well i typed in: sudo dhcpcd ath0
[06:14] <BenWhitey> and it looks like its frozen
[06:14] <BenWhitey> up no
[06:14] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:14] <BenWhitey> done
[06:14] <ko12upt> :)
[06:14] <BenWhitey> now what?
[06:14] <BenWhitey> iwconfig?
[06:14] <ko12upt> your connected
[06:14] <marke> lol
[06:14] <BenWhitey> i don't thinks o
[06:14] <ko12upt> marke all from gnome
[06:14] <kane_> type ifconfig
[06:14] <kane_> see if youre wifi gets an address
[06:14] <kane_> er your.
[06:14] <ko12upt> kane hes is using dhcpcd
[06:15] <kane_> aahhh, so he is.
[06:15] <ko12upt> :)_
[06:15] <ko12upt> i changed him over i find that ifup messes up sometimes
[06:15] <ko12upt> also told him to do a ifdown
[06:15] <BenWhitey> um
[06:15] <kane_> yeah ive had issues.
[06:15] <BenWhitey> i'm not connected
[06:15] <marke> doh
[06:15] <ko12upt> lol
[06:15] <kane_> heh.
[06:16] <ko12upt> hold on
[06:16] <BenWhitey> i can't ping my router
[06:16] <BenWhitey> i unpluged my ethernet
[06:16] <ko12upt> and
[06:16] <BenWhitey> and i typed:
[06:16] <BenWhitey> ping 192.168.1.1
[06:16] <BenWhitey> and its unreachable
[06:16] <BenWhitey> wtf
[06:16] <ko12upt> did you try to connect to the internet
[06:16] <BenWhitey> but in wireless assitant it says i'm connected
[06:16] <oldwest> kane - are u still there - had to answer phone - went and checked synaptics for mozilla-mplayer - synaptics shows it's installed - any other idea's?
[06:17] <ko12upt> yes you are
[06:17] <marke> now i'm confused 8)
[06:17] <ko12upt> hes a numb nut lol
[06:17] <BenWhitey> i don't think so
[06:17] <ko12upt> no offense
[06:17] <marke> could be this fourth margarita - dunno - gotta have another to figure it out
[06:17] <ko12upt> ben does it say your connected
[06:17] <BenWhitey> i'm trying to ping google now
[06:17] <BenWhitey> yes
[06:18] <BenWhitey> but i'm not
[06:18] <BenWhitey> i don't thinks
[06:18] <BenWhitey> a tleast
[06:18] <marke> try the browser
[06:18] <ko12upt> well unplug the eth
[06:18] <BenWhitey> yeah
[06:18] <BenWhitey> i did
[06:18] <BenWhitey> thats why i'm not connected
[06:18] <ko12upt> then try connecting to the net
[06:18] <BenWhitey> "an error has occured while loading page http://www.google.com"
[06:18] <BenWhitey> oh
[06:18] <BenWhitey> my ip is 169 now
[06:18] <BenWhitey> maybe thats why
[06:18] <ko12upt> omg
[06:19] <BenWhitey> i'll manually set it
[06:19] <BenWhitey> ok?
[06:19] <ko12upt> all the commands i gave you should work
[06:19] <BenWhitey> well
[06:19] <ko12upt> yes manually configure
[06:19] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:19] <BenWhitey> i think i have to disconnect first
[06:19] <BenWhitey> to then reconnect
[06:19] <BenWhitey> ok?
[06:20] <BenWhitey> or should i manually set my ip via console
[06:20] <ko12upt> how bout this
[06:20] <ko12upt> restart the computer
[06:20] <ko12upt> aww hold on
[06:20] <ko12upt> did you do a ndiswrapper -m too
[06:20] <BenWhitey> i'm using madwifi
[06:21] <BenWhitey> i don't have ndiswrapper
[06:21] <ko12upt> aww okay restart the computer
[06:21] <ko12upt> should work when it boots again
[06:22] <ko12upt> :)
[06:22] <BenWhitey> wtf
[06:22] <BenWhitey> something happened to my computer
[06:22] <BenWhitey> its the same thign as before
[06:22] <BenWhitey> hte screen isn't loading
[06:22] <BenWhitey> there was the loading screen for kubuntu
[06:22] <BenWhitey> and now its black
[06:23] <oscar> how do i find what wireless driver is being used
[06:23] <ko12upt> hmm
[06:23] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:23] <BenWhitey> i held down the power button
[06:23] <BenWhitey> it shutdown
[06:24] <BenWhitey> and i turned it back on
[06:24] <ko12upt> okay
[06:24] <BenWhitey> loading kubuntu, lets hope it works
[06:24] <ko12upt> k
[06:24] <BenWhitey> in the future, i will not "restart" only shutdown
[06:24] <ko12upt> :)
[06:24] <BenWhitey> and then turn on
[06:25] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:25] <BenWhitey> i'm in kubuntu
[06:25] <BenWhitey> now what?
[06:25] <ko12upt> okay
[06:25] <ko12upt> check your connections tab
[06:25] <ko12upt> see if its connected
[06:26] <BenWhitey> no it doesn't
[06:26] <BenWhitey> i'm "connecting"
[06:26] <ko12upt> k
[06:26] <BenWhitey> in wireless assitant
[06:26] <BenWhitey> "connection failed"
[06:26] <ko12upt> hm
[06:26] <ko12upt> okay this is how i see it
[06:26] <ko12upt> your driver is working for one its finding your network
[06:27] <ko12upt> something is stopping the connection
[06:27] <ko12upt> firewall?
[06:27] <oscar> is there other networks you could try connecting to.  (Just a thought)
[06:27] <BenWhitey> does kubuntu have one built in?
[06:27] <ko12upt> yes
[06:27] <BenWhitey> they are encryped
[06:27] <BenWhitey> how do i turn this ish off
[06:27] <ko12upt> !firewall
[06:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:27] <ko12upt> :)
[06:28] <BenWhitey> would a firewall on my laptop stop it from connecting to my router?
[06:28] <marke> yikes - forget the iptables command - use Firestarter instead
[06:29] <BenWhitey> firestarter is not installed
[06:29] <marke> it could if it blocks port 97 - doesn't block it on my system with no firewall mods
[06:29] <marke> you have to install firestarter
[06:29] <oscar> do you have access to your router from a different computer
[06:29] <marke> it's a GUI control for iptables - pretty simple to use
[06:29] <BenWhitey> yeah
[06:30] <BenWhitey> im on my wireless network on this computer (in windows)
[06:30] <ko12upt> okay benWhitey
[06:30] <oscar> log into your router and open it completely up.  No wep or anything.
[06:30] <BenWhitey> no wep no encryption
[06:30] <BenWhitey> trust me
[06:30] <BenWhitey> its all open
[06:30] <ko12upt> do you have the windows drivers for that driver
[06:30] <BenWhitey> no mac filters
[06:30] <ko12upt> err
[06:30] <oscar> oh dang
[06:30] <ko12upt> hardware
[06:30] <BenWhitey> no nothing
[06:31] <BenWhitey> you could drive up to my house ans start using it (that is if you could get yoru wifi driver to work)
[06:31] <oscar> ha ha.
[06:31] <BenWhitey> its the wrt54g
[06:31] <ko12upt> if you can find something for that driver using windows i suggest highly you use the ndiswrapper
[06:31] <BenWhitey> its an older version
[06:31] <oscar> can someone help me find out what driver i am using for my wireless?
[06:31] <BenWhitey> shoudln't the madwifi drivers work?
[06:32] <Jack333> can someoen tell me if i can change the default midi driver to timidity?
[06:32] <ko12upt> i wouldnt trust it just see if you can find is if one thing isnt working try something else
[06:32] <ko12upt> oh im tired
[06:32] <BenWhitey> is this multicast?
[06:33] <oscar> no
[06:33] <BenWhitey> i'm filtering multicast on my router, but i think thats ISP related
[06:33] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:34] <BenWhitey> hmm
[06:35] <BenWhitey> how do i find my ip of my computer
[06:35] <BenWhitey> i could try pinging it from my router
[06:35] <oscar> sudo ifconfig
[06:36] <BenWhitey> well, all my IP stuff for the thing is wrong
[06:36] <BenWhitey> 169.*.*.*
[06:36] <BenWhitey> wrong mask
[06:38] <BenWhitey> any ideas?
[06:38] <BenWhitey> haha
[06:38] <BenWhitey> he just left
[06:38] <BenWhitey> didn't even say good bye
[06:38] <BenWhitey> haha
[06:38] <BenWhitey> he gave up
[06:39] <marke> Ben, how far are you from the router?
[06:39] <BenWhitey> its down stairs?
[06:39] <BenWhitey> but i have an ethernet cable
[06:39] <BenWhitey> why?
[06:39] <Jack333> isnt there anyway to change the default midi driver to use timidity?
[06:39] <BenWhitey> want me to give it a good whack with a big stick
[06:40] <marke> no - i was wondering about signal strength.
[06:40] <BenWhitey> ah
[06:40] <BenWhitey> eh
[06:40] <BenWhitey> i could try going downstiars
[06:40] <BenWhitey> it says the signal strenght is good
[06:40] <marke> i wonder if it would work if you took the laptop right over to the router....
[06:40] <BenWhitey> like 2 and a half stars
[06:40] <BenWhitey> can't hurt to try
[06:40] <marke> take it downstairs just for grins and try again to connect
[06:41] <BenWhitey> in wiundows i get "very good" or "exclelent" strength and its at 48mbps or 54mbps
[06:41] <BenWhitey> ok brb
[06:44] <BenWhitey> nope
[06:44] <BenWhitey> doesn't help
[06:44] <BenWhitey> what abou tthis
[06:44] <BenWhitey> in K Network Manager
[06:44] <BenWhitey> it has a thing which is "trusted wireless networks" and "restricted wireless networks"
[06:44] <BenWhitey> i have no networks in either of them
[06:44] <BenWhitey> maybe thats the problem
[06:45] <marke> dunno - maybe put your router in the trusted
[06:45] <BenWhitey> i can't
[06:45] <BenWhitey> i don't know how
[06:45] <BenWhitey> the buttons are "ok" "cancel" and "remove item"
[06:46] <marke> oh -
[06:46] <marke> really odd that it won't grab an address - got another wifi card to try?
[06:47] <BenWhitey> nope
[06:47] <BenWhitey> i'll try manually congiruing the address
[06:47] <BenWhitey> what do i put for domain?
[06:47] <BenWhitey> do i put my router's ip?
[06:47] <marke> router ip is the gateway
[06:47] <eljefe> leave domain blank
[06:48] <BenWhitey> yeah
[06:48] <BenWhitey> ok
[06:48] <BenWhitey> what about primay dns, should i grab those from my router?
[06:48] <marke> ya
[06:48] <marke> or use your router as the DNS address es
[06:49] <BenWhitey> nope
[06:49] <BenWhitey> nothing
[06:49] <marke> damn
[06:49] <marke> i'm at a loss right about now
[06:50] <eljefe> what kind of wifi card is it?
[06:50] <marke> AR5212 Atheros
[06:50] <BenWhitey> atheros
[06:50] <eljefe> and its not autodetected?
[06:50] <BenWhitey> it is autodetected
[06:50] <eljefe> does it come up when you run 'lspci' ?
[06:50] <BenWhitey> i just can't connect
[06:50] <BenWhitey> yeah
[06:51] <eljefe> are you at a command prompt?
[06:51] <BenWhitey> sure
[06:51] <eljefe> what is the result of ifconfig -a (is it wifi0 or eth0 or eth1 or ?)
[06:51] <BenWhitey> want me to type out that line?
[06:52] <hendaus> hiya all
[06:52] <eljefe> heya
[06:52] <BenWhitey> well
[06:52] <hendaus> eljefe:  how r u
[06:52] <BenWhitey> now there is all this stuff there
[06:52] <BenWhitey> i donno
[06:52] <BenWhitey> i'll paste it and let you look
[06:52] <khirr> how can i mount a iso?
[06:52] <eljefe> BenWhitey: of scroll up with a mouse (or with [shift] [page up] ) and find the words on the left, is there a wifi0 or eth0 or something?
[06:53] <marke> his card shows up at ath0
[06:53] <BenWhitey> yah, ath0
[06:53] <eljefe> ok thanks :)
[06:53] <BenWhitey> but ther eis wifi0 stuff also
[06:53] <hendaus> can anyone help me with program nokia 6230 , i want to transfer images
[06:53] <marke> typical for Atheros
[06:53] <BenWhitey> lol
[06:53] <eljefe> marke: did youse go through iwconfig ath0 -essid _____ ?
[06:53] <khirr> !iso
[06:53] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:53] <khirr> !mount iso
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <BenWhitey> not -essid, ive only used essid
[06:54] <eljefe> ok maybe thats it
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> !iso > khirr
[06:54] <marke> i didn't - someone else might have - i don't remember
[06:54] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/lAlit394.html
[06:54] <Etokura> Where in my BIOS settings can I change the transition method of the hard drive
[06:54] <hendaus> helpers!!  can anyone help me with program nokia 6230 , i want to transfer images
[06:55] <khirr> but , where is the mountpoint
[06:55] <eljefe> so run 'sudo iwconfig ath0 essid Ben'sAccess'
[06:55] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/IAlit394.html
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> Etokura: depends on your bios
[06:55] <BenWhitey> ugh i cna't figure out what this letter is
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> khirr: wherever you want, more or less
[06:55] <Etokura> I'm on a Dell
[06:55] <Etokura> I can't find the option anywhere
[06:55] <frank_> looking for a rpm and tar program that converts them to deb packages?? i can remeber what its called?
[06:55] <Etokura> I got that "Error loading operating system" message, and I';m trying to fix it
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> who was asking me about Dells earlier...:)
[06:55] <khirr> uhmm
[06:55] <eljefe> khirr: what do you mean, where is the mount point?
[06:56] <khirr> one example
[06:56] <khirr> uhmm
[06:56] <khirr>  /media
[06:56] <khirr> how can i d for that appear there?
[06:56] <klobster> frank: alien?
[06:56] <eljefe> to mount an ISO, make a new directory anywhere (like /home/khirr/isomount) and then that can be your mount point
[06:56] <eljefe> a mount point can be anywhere
[06:56] <frank_> klo
[06:56] <BenWhitey> ifconfig -a [06:56] <eljefe> khirr: mkdir /media/isomount
[06:56] <frank_> ok
[06:57] <eljefe> then use that as your mount point
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> Etokura: how many hdd's? just the one?
[06:57] <Etokura> Yeah
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> Etokura: did grub install properly?
[06:57] <khirr> thnx
[06:57] <eljefe> BenWhitey: it says that you have an IP Address of 192.168.1.127, is it worng?
[06:57] <Etokura> Yeah
[06:58] <frank_> its in the synaptic packager right? using kunbuntu? so i must download it first correct??
[06:58] <Etokura> I've had the kubuntu installation for a few months
[06:58] <BenWhitey> no
[06:58] <BenWhitey> i think i manually configured it to that
[06:58] <BenWhitey> but i can't ping my router
[06:58] <eljefe> ah ok
[06:58] <BenWhitey> or get on the web
[06:58] <Etokura> I tried installing windows on a separate partition, then I got the error
[06:58] <eljefe> ok then back at the command prompt type : 'sudo dhclient ath0'
[06:58] <BenWhitey> eljefe: maybe i can't connect because its not on my "trusted" wireless networks
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> Etokura: the attempted win install probably wiped out grub
[06:59] <BenWhitey> do you know how to get it there???
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> !grub | Etokura
[06:59] <ubotu> Etokura: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:59] <eljefe> and then let me know if ifconfig -a gives a different IP for ath0.
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> Etokura: follow the link from ubotu, should show you how to fix it
[06:59] <Etokura> I'll try that
[06:59] <eljefe> BenWhitey: I am sorry, I don't klnow how to get it there.  I've not actually used the KNetwork MAnagr for wifi
[07:00] <klobster> frank: yup
[07:00] <eljefe> BenWhitey: can you right-click an untrrusted network and change t to trusted?
[07:00] <BenWhitey> there are no networks in ether
[07:00] <eljefe> BenWhitey: is your network locked with a password/passphrase/key ?
[07:01] <BenWhitey> nope
[07:01] <BenWhitey> open, no mac filtering
[07:01] <BenWhitey> no encryptpion
[07:01] <eljefe> BenWhitey: are you sure that you can get a signal where you're at?
[07:01] <BenWhitey> yup
[07:01] <BenWhitey> i tried going downstairs
[07:01] <Dr_willis> dang it. got a sd memory card. that windows and linxu both are having a hard time reading.. tried writing stuff to it from windows and 'filled it up' havent been able to access it since
[07:01] <BenWhitey> and i'm on wifi on this comptuer
[07:01] <eljefe> of what does sudo dhclient ath0 do?
[07:01] <BenWhitey> with an older card and antenna
[07:01] <Dr_willis> cant even fdisk -l the thing
[07:01] <BenWhitey> i'll paste it in
[07:01] <Dr_willis> any ideas?
[07:01] <eljefe> what does sudo dhclient wifi0 do? (wifi0 is also on your list of ifconfig -a)
[07:02] <eljefe> Dr_willis: sounds corrupted or dead to me
[07:03] <BenWhitey> 1sec
[07:03] <Dr_willis> eljefe,  yea annoying. been using it all week.
[07:03] <eljefe> Dr_willis: look into ddrescue or dd_rescue (diferent) if there is something that you need to recover
[07:03] <Dr_willis> eljefe,  not really just videos for playint on my mnedia player
[07:03] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/fksIjC35.html
[07:04] <eljefe> BenWhitey: not sure if this is related, but my laptop cannot have two wifi signals going at once.  both are pcmcia cards.  i can plug both in, but only one actually does any of the work...
[07:04] <BenWhitey> i only ahve one wifi card
[07:04] <BenWhitey> i'm not sure why thre is a thing for wifi0
[07:04] <BenWhitey> it wasn't there before i did what that other guy told me to do
[07:05] <BenWhitey> he told me to install dhclient or something
[07:05] <BenWhitey> wifi0 can't connect
[07:05] <BenWhitey> it also says "wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801"
[07:05] <eljefe> dhclient is a good thing, its to get an ethernet address
[07:05] <eljefe> yes i'd say that seems to be an issue
[07:06] <justin_> If I use bittorrent for a while or if I transfer large files with sftp, the computer slows to a crawl and looses connection
[07:06] <eljefe> and when you run dhclient ath0 it actually calls wifi0 so those look to be the same
[07:06] <BenWhitey> yes, i supose it does
[07:07] <eljefe> what happens if you pull out the card, wait a few seconds, put it back in, wait a few seconds, and then run 'dmesg' ? what are the last few lines of dmesg ? any errors there?
[07:07] <BenWhitey> never done that
[07:07] <BenWhitey> its on board
[07:07] <BenWhitey> built in
[07:07] <eljefe> ah
[07:08] <BenWhitey> its like centrino or something
[07:08] <eljefe> do you know if you have the right drivers installed?
[07:08] <BenWhitey> i'm using madwifi
[07:08] <BenWhitey> i can scan
[07:08] <BenWhitey> for networks
[07:08] <BenWhitey> and see them
[07:08] <eljefe> oh?
[07:08] <BenWhitey> i just can't connect to them
[07:09] <fignew> eljefe: I've come across the two wireless cards at once limitation too...
[07:09] <eljefe> what is your network's name?
[07:09] <BenWhitey> unique
[07:09] <fignew> justin_: put a limit the BT upload speed
[07:09] <dsmith_> in ordder for a partition to be functional it must be marked as active?
[07:10] <fignew> BenWhitey: wifi0 is a virtual device
[07:10] <fignew> use ath0 instead
[07:10] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:10] <BenWhitey> it doesn't help though, i still can't connect
[07:10] <eljefe> BenWhitey: try: 'sudo ifconfig ath0 up && sudo iwconfig ath0 essid unique && sudo dhclient ath0 '
[07:10] <eljefe> (cut and paste that)
[07:10] <eljefe> (no quotes)
[07:11] <BenWhitey> laptop is next to me
[07:11] <eljefe> lol ok
[07:11] <eljefe> aah
[07:11] <BenWhitey> but i'll type it out right
[07:11] <BenWhitey> i'm a good typer
[07:11] <eljefe> well, type it i guess :)
[07:11] <justin_> fignew: no bittorrent isn't the problem. I transfered a 700MB file using sftp and the computer still slowed. The mouse was jerking.
[07:11] <BenWhitey> i plug in the ethernet to paste then unplug it to type the commands
[07:11] <BenWhitey> i type it with the &&?
[07:11] <fignew> && or ;
[07:12] <defcon_> im having problems with truecrypt in ubuntu, when I run some files off the truecrypt volume and then try and dismount it wont, is there any way at all the force dismount? or is there a better encryption product to use?
[07:12] <eljefe> i just got into QuickSynergy, you can share a mouse and a keyboard with two totally different computers (like a linux laptop and windows desktop) and share their clipboard!  but both need a network connection ;
[07:12] <defcon_> i work in a hostile environment and need to force dismount
[07:12] <fignew> defcon_: cd out of the dir?
[07:12] <eljefe> BenWhitey: the && means 'finish the first command then move to the next'
[07:12] <BenWhitey> thats nifty
[07:13] <defcon_> fignew, wont work for some reason
[07:13] <BenWhitey> ok, i'll paste it into rafb
[07:13] <defcon_> found a bug
[07:13] <fdoving> defcon_: yes, 'umount -l /dev/device'
[07:13] <fignew> justin_: the computer is slow _after_ you transfered the file? or during it
[07:13] <eljefe> defcon_: bug?  report it!
[07:13] <defcon_> umount works?
[07:13] <defcon_> i will
[07:13] <defcon_> ;] 
[07:13] <eljefe> cool
[07:14] <fignew> defcon_: 1 sec
[07:14] <defcon_> ok
[07:14] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/hSrKs188.html
[07:15] <justin_> fignew: it seems to be after I transfer a few 100MB, at least for sftp. It happens about 45mins after I use bittorent
[07:15] <defcon_> fdoving, how do I find the device in dev which is my truecrypt file
[07:15] <defcon_> that mounted
[07:15] <fdoving> defcon_: you can use the file as an argument too, i guess.
[07:15] <fignew> defcon_: fuser -u -m /mount/point
[07:15] <fignew> that'll tell you what's using the filesystem
[07:16] <eljefe> BenWhitey: is the laptop wired to the internet?
[07:16] <defcon_> ok
[07:16] <fignew> and keeping you from unmounting it
[07:16] <BenWhitey> not when i type the commands
[07:16] <fdoving> defcon_: you can use the file or the mountpoint.
[07:16] <BenWhitey> i unplug it to type the commands, then plug in the ethernet to paste it
[07:16] <defcon_> fignew, what is fuser
[07:17] <fignew> BenWhitey: what does iwconfig ath0 say ?
[07:17] <fignew> thomas@ambient:~$ whatis fuser
[07:17] <fignew> fuser (1)            - identify processes using files or sockets
[07:17] <defcon_> ./MOUNTDIR:             5966c(root)
[07:18] <defcon_> fignew, so then how do I force the dismount
[07:18] <defcon_> kill the proc?
[07:18] <fignew> find out what it is first ;)
[07:18] <eljefe> can you try this (note: we are TURNING OFF your wired connection; to turn it back on you plug in and type 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0' ) but try this first: 'sudo ifconfig eth0 down && sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1'
[07:18] <defcon_> 5966c(root)
[07:18] <fdoving> defcon_: didn't 'umount -l /mount/point' work?
[07:18] <defcon_> i'll try
[07:18] <eljefe> THEN try : sudo dhclient aht0- '
[07:18] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/Cv60gZ79.html
[07:19] <defcon_> fdoving, nope
[07:19] <eljefe> THEN try : sudo dhclient ath0' (no dash and spelled correctly)
[07:19] <fdoving> defcon_: what does it say?
[07:19] <defcon_> not mounted
[07:19] <BenWhitey> wait
[07:19] <BenWhitey> so how do i turn off my wired connection?
[07:19] <Moniker42> hey, how do you load scripts in Konversation?
[07:19] <defcon_> yo
[07:19] <defcon_> it worked
[07:19] <BenWhitey> unplug the wire?
[07:19] <defcon_> thankyou
[07:19] <defcon_> had to cd ..
[07:20] <fignew> BenWhitey: no encryption
[07:20] <justin_> fignew: I used sftp to transfer 2 700MB files from another computer to this one. When I got back to this computer it was already slow.
[07:20] <fignew> ?
[07:20] <BenWhitey> no encryption
[07:20] <BenWhitey> no mac filtering
[07:20] <BenWhitey> open netowrk
[07:20] <fignew> [01:11]  <fignew> defcon_: cd out of the dir?
[07:20] <fignew> :P
[07:20] <Moniker42> BenWhitey: that would work
[07:20] <eljefe> to turn it off: sudo ifconfig eth0 down' and to turn it on 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0'
[07:20] <Moniker42> anyone know how to load scripts in Konversation?
[07:20] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:20] <defcon_> yo got another prob
[07:21] <defcon_> truecrypt thinks its still  mounted
[07:21] <BenWhitey> then ive been doing all of the commands with it "off" or unplugged
[07:21] <defcon_> root@ion:/pentest# truecrypt -l
[07:21] <defcon_> /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 //movie.avi
[07:21] <eljefe> what i want you to do is: turn off the wired, add the gateway for your wireless router, try to get a newtowrk adress for your ath0; if all this fails, you'll turn on the eth0 again
[07:21] <justin_> fignew: I don't get this problem when I just web browse. It only happens when transfering files either with bittorrent of sftp.
[07:21] <defcon_> i did umount -l but now truecrypt thinks its still  mounted
[07:21] <BenWhitey> kk
[07:21] <eljefe> off and unplugged i guess :)  we want to try to force the ath0 to get an adddress
[07:22] <fignew> justin_: no idea :/
[07:22] <fignew> could be a driver program?
[07:22] <fignew> justin_: what program are you using?
[07:22] <defcon_> brb
[07:23] <heyholmez> hi
[07:23] <BenWhitey> i typed in: sudo eth0 down && sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 and i got this in response: "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable"
[07:23] <justin_> fignew: I have the problem using Azureus, KTorrent and ressently sftp.
[07:23] <eljefe> how about the same, but with 192.168.0.1 instead?
[07:24] <BenWhitey> thats not my router's address
[07:24] <BenWhitey> its 192.168.1.1
[07:24] <BenWhitey> not 0.1
[07:24] <eljefe> ok :)
[07:24] <fignew> Justin, how's ram?
[07:24] <heyholmez> ive got a 32bit copy of the latest kubuntu.  I have a 64bit hp laptop.  Should I get 64bit kubuntu, or would I be better off just installing 32bit
[07:24] <hitmanWilly> BenWhitey: does it sit on 1.0? linksys, right?
[07:24] <fignew> heyholmez: stick with 32 bit
[07:24] <BenWhitey> hitmanwilly: you mean my router? i'm not sure, its old
[07:24] <BenWhitey> hitmanwilly: 2004 firmware i think
[07:24] <eljefe> nothing is x.x.x.0
[07:24] <Lynoure> defcon_: isn't that to be expected? doesn't truecrypt use it's own commands for unmounting too
[07:25] <BenWhitey> Firmware Version: v3.03.6
[07:25] <heyholmez> is there any difference in performance>
[07:25] <heyholmez> ?
[07:25] <BenWhitey> guess not
[07:25] <BenWhitey> but its not v5.0
[07:25] <eljefe> BenWhitey: you may want to try joining /join #madwifi or /join #networking in IRC :(   I don't seem to be helping you
[07:26] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:26] <BenWhitey> i tried madwifi earlier
[07:26] <defcon_> Lynoure, yea, but it wont force unmount with a process still running
[07:26] <BenWhitey> nobody really responded
[07:26] <BenWhitey> i'll try networking tomorrow
[07:26] <fignew> BenWhitey: do your other PCs use DHCP?
[07:26] <BenWhitey> i'm tired
[07:26] <eljefe> or, ask again, someone here may know better or may have just joined in
[07:26] <defcon_> id like to be able to --force it
[07:26] <BenWhitey> no, but they could
[07:26] <eljefe> BenWhitey: me too
[07:26] <BenWhitey> i'm using dchp right now on my wireless windows comptuer
[07:26] <BenWhitey> i usually use static with ethernet
[07:26] <defcon_> Lynoure, u recommend something better than truecrypt?
[07:26] <BenWhitey> but i unpluged the LAN so i could use it on my laptop
[07:27] <BenWhitey> my router is a dchp server
[07:27] <eljefe> BenWhitey: you could try to install and use the gnome networkmanager
[07:27] <fignew> eljefe: ???
[07:27] <BenWhitey> i have knetworkmanager
[07:27] <fignew> this is the Kubuntu channel :P
[07:27] <BenWhitey> kubuntu
[07:27] <eljefe> i think Ubuntu gets more attention than the Kubuntu disto, it may have a better setup :(
[07:27] <BenWhitey> lol
[07:27] <Lynoure> defcon_: you make a little script that kills the processes, and then unmounts it, but that could be damageprone...
[07:27] <fignew> BenWhitey: what does knetworkmanager do?
[07:27] <BenWhitey> not sure
[07:27] <fignew> does it show the network?
[07:27] <BenWhitey> it stopped working after somebody told me to do some stuff
[07:28] <eljefe> fignew: i know, but you gotta try what may work!  i don't like getting the cananocal shaft either ;)
[07:28] <defcon_> any way to list processes by mount point?
[07:28] <eljefe> it stopped working?
[07:28] <BenWhitey> kidn of
[07:28] <BenWhitey> like i go to Internet
[07:28] <BenWhitey> and try to open it
[07:28] <BenWhitey> and nothing comes up
[07:28] <justin_> fignew: I have 256MB of ram, and 512MB of swap. I can't remember what the ram usage is after it slows up.
[07:28] <eljefe> 'internet' ?
[07:28] <eljefe> you mean, in the KMenu?  or a web browser?
[07:29] <BenWhitey> Internet => KNetworkManager (Network Manager)
[07:29] <fignew> BenWhitey: does your wireless network show up on the list in knetworkmanager?
[07:29] <eljefe> ah ok
[07:29] <heyholmez> whats an adequate partition size for kubuntu? im going to use a diff partition for storage
[07:29] <BenWhitey> i can't open it
[07:29] <BenWhitey> but it used to
[07:29] <fignew> but it shows up?
[07:29] <eljefe> how about in your system tray, by the clock?  is it there?  right click.
[07:29] <fignew> ohh! you can't use knetworkmanager :P
[07:29] <Lynoure> defcon_: not knowing what you whole goal is, not really. Some people like encrypting whole home, but that does not give you the kind of deniability truecrypt can
[07:29] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:29] <eljefe> fignew: why not?
[07:30] <eljefe> BenWhitey: ok what?  its there?
[07:30] <BenWhitey> there used to be the option to connect to wireless networks, but that went away when i stopped being able to open that
[07:30] <BenWhitey> yeah its there
[07:30] <BenWhitey> so now its like "KNetwork Manager"
[07:30] <Captain_Haddock> heyholmez: it's best to have separate partitions for /, /usr and storage.
[07:30] <eljefe> so... i am guessing that somehow it doesn't see the wireless card, not sure what would have changed that tho
[07:30] <Captain_Haddock> heyholmez: For / 10 GB should be good.
[07:30] <BenWhitey> Wired Devices,, wired network is grayed out, Manual Configuration, Options =>, Help =>
[07:30] <defcon_> Lynoure, :)
[07:30] <BenWhitey> me neither
[07:31] <BenWhitey> bit it happened before, i fixed it by installing kubuntu again
[07:31] <BenWhitey> **but
[07:31] <eljefe> :/
[07:31] <BenWhitey> i might just loan my laptop to my friend who nkows linux
[07:31] <BenWhitey> i'm helplsess in linux
[07:31] <eljefe> have you looked in the forums at all?
[07:31] <BenWhitey> yeah
[07:32] <eljefe> yeah :(  that might be a good move i suppose
[07:32] <BenWhitey> ive posted once, nobody really responded
[07:32] <eljefe> make him do it :) like people do to me ;)
[07:32] <BenWhitey> and then i replied to another post saying i had the similar problem and we'll see what happens with that one
[07:32] <eljefe> have you read other people's comments/posts?
[07:32] <fignew> BenWhitey: close knetworkmanager and try
[07:32] <BenWhitey> yes
[07:32] <fignew> mv ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc~
[07:32] <eljefe> mm ok
[07:32] <BenWhitey> ive tried guides and stuff
[07:32] <BenWhitey> 1sec, let me try changing my interfaces file
[07:32] <BenWhitey> maybe that will change knetwork manager
[07:32] <eljefe> daaang, sounds like it might just not happen then, if you've tried a lot of things
[07:33] <eljefe> sure, who knows.
[07:33] <fignew> BenWhitey: if you would be so kind as to paste your interfaces file :)
[07:33] <heyholmez> thanks alot
[07:33] <fignew> BenWhitey: have you tried other WAPs?
[07:33] <BenWhitey> fignew: no they are all encrypted
[07:33] <BenWhitey> mine is open
[07:34] <BenWhitey> the rest are my neighbors, i could ask for the key, but then we'd hvae to go thru that whole thing
[07:34] <fignew> BenWhitey: like at Starbucks or something ;)
[07:34] <BenWhitey> lol
[07:34] <BenWhitey> no haven't tried that
[07:34] <BenWhitey> my interfaces is the default
[07:35] <BenWhitey> except that it has "wireless-essid unique" under "iface ath0 inet dhcp"
[07:35] <sivaji> is there any software to send message to mobile phone from computer
[07:36] <Lynoure> sivaji: What kind of message?
[07:36] <sivaji> text message
[07:36] <BenWhitey> sign into aim with the phone then use aim to send it :)
[07:36] <Lynoure> sivaji: like sms or just a message in text form?  there is bluetooth chat and OBEX...
[07:36] <sivaji> sms
[07:37] <BenWhitey> any ideas?
[07:37] <fignew> yea
[07:37] <BenWhitey> cool
[07:38] <Lynoure> sivaji: there is smssend, and kannel, at least, depending on how large you want to go
[07:38] <BenWhitey> brb, i need to grab some food to stay awake
[07:38] <BenWhitey> lol its 1:40 here
[07:38] <BenWhitey> and i have to get up at like 8 or something
[07:38] <Lynoure> sivaji: you can explore your options with   apt-cache search sms   and then  apt-cache show nameoftheprogram   for seeing more detail
[07:39] <sivaji> is it possible  send sms using kopete
[07:40] <kane_> hey whats a good channel to ask a linux security related question?
[07:40] <sivaji> ok thank u Lynoure
[07:40] <fignew> BenWhitey: sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifconfig ath0 down; sudo ifconfig ath0 up; sudo iwconfig ath0 essid unique; sudo iwconfig ath0 ap any sudo ifconfig ath0 192.168.1.244; ping 192.168.1.1
[07:40] <fignew> :)
[07:40] <dsmith_> hi, has anyone updated from 6.10 to 7.04?
[07:40] <dsmith_> without serious issues?
[07:40] <eljefe> dsmith_: bad idea :(
[07:41] <dsmith_> thats! what I thought
[07:41] <dsmith_> heheh
[07:41] <dsmith_> 6.06 to 6.10 worked fine
[07:41] <eljefe> sivaji: in the USA, phone companies have email addresses for phones, like tombile is 5558702233@tmomail.net
[07:41] <fignew> eljefe: bad idea?
[07:41] <eljefe> TMobile, rather
[07:42] <fignew> not really, works fine, assuming you didn't install automatix or easyubuntu
[07:42] <eljefe> dsmith_: well you can try it, but myne failed horribly.
[07:42] <eljefe> yes, i had automatix stuff in there
[07:43] <dsmith_> I do have automatix
[07:43] <dsmith_> hmmmm
[07:43] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:43] <BenWhitey> i'
[07:43] <BenWhitey> i'm back
[07:43] <eljefe> yes?  yes?
[07:43] <eljefe> and?
[07:43] <BenWhitey> i got food
[07:43] <eljefe> lol
[07:43] <BenWhitey> let me try those stuff you said
[07:43] <eljefe> i need to sleep
[07:43] <eljefe> so try it quick ;)
[07:44] <eljefe> dsmith_: do you have your /home partition on another partition, or backed up, in case you need to reinstall?  if so, give it a try!
[07:44] <dsmith_> I have 3 full backups and one incremental
[07:44] <eljefe> i mean, your /home directory on another partition?
[07:44] <eljefe> including all music, photos, etc?
[07:44] <dsmith_> I can backup /home by itself, but dont you need a few otheres?
[07:45] <BenWhitey> did you mean: sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifconfig ath0 down; sudo ifconfig ath0 up; sudo iwconfig ath0 essid unique; sudo iwconfig ath0 ap any; sudo ifconfig ath0 192.168.1.244; ping 192.168.1.1 ???
[07:45] <BenWhitey> notice the ; after any
[07:45] <eljefe> well if you end up reinstalling, it'll be a boring basic setup but nothing much can transfer, unless you put a lot of effort into cron or /etc/resolv.conf or somehting...
[07:45] <eljefe> BenWhitey: what about it?
[07:46] <BenWhitey> he left it out
[07:46] <BenWhitey> before
[07:46] <eljefe> 'access point = any access point'
[07:46] <eljefe> ah
[07:46] <fignew> 'tis right
[07:47] <wolferine> anyone use Crossover?
[07:47] <BenWhitey> you want the paste?
[07:47] <BenWhitey> "destination host unreachable"
[07:47] <fignew> ugh
[07:47] <fignew> paste iwlist ath0
[07:48] <BenWhitey> kk
[07:48] <BenWhitey> iwlist: unknown command 'ath0'
[07:48] <BenWhitey> iflist?
[07:48] <fignew> sorry
[07:48] <fignew> paste iwlist ath0 ap
[07:48] <BenWhitey> ah
[07:50] <BenWhitey> lol
[07:50] <BenWhitey> i need to enable my eth0
[07:50] <eljefe> BenWhitey: i gotta sleep, luck to you
[07:50] <BenWhitey> thanks
[07:50] <BenWhitey> cya later
[07:51] <eljefe> sorry that i wan unable to solve it; good luck fignew
[07:51] <BenWhitey> np
[07:51] <BenWhitey> no offense fignew, but i don't think you'll be able to fix it either
[07:51] <pulaski> hello
[07:51] <BenWhitey> ive been trying to fix this sicne i got my laptop on monday lol
[07:51] <fignew> I know
[07:52] <BenWhitey> lol
[07:52] <fignew> I think it's yout Wireless accesspoint
[07:52] <BenWhitey> how do i enable eth0
[07:52] <fignew> sudo ifup eth0
[07:52] <BenWhitey> sudo ifconfig ath0 up
[07:52] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:52] <eljefe> sudo ifconfig eth up
[07:52] <BenWhitey> it says "ifup: interface is already configured"
[07:52] <eljefe> \eth0
[07:53] <eljefe> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[07:53] <eljefe> ok i'm done! lol
[07:53] <BenWhitey> ok  cya later
[07:53] <BenWhitey> ok its still disabled
[07:54] <pulaski> I'm editing apache2.conf on my feisty fawn distro.  I've used adept to grab the libapache2-mod which provides the php5 module for apache2.  Will I need to put a stanza in apache2.conf to specifically load the php5_mod?
[07:54] <fignew> meh
[07:55] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:55] <BenWhitey> i fixed it
[07:55] <BenWhitey> let me paste this ish
[07:56] <eljefe> BenWhitey: try installing the program 'restricted-manager' and seeing what that does (it manages drivers)
[07:56] <eljefe> ok NOW i am done
[07:56] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/0lZ30019.html
[07:56] <BenWhitey> damn it
[07:56] <fignew> I have a atheros card too
[07:56] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/JhPgoP94.html
[07:56] <fignew> restricted-manager not needed (99% sure)
[07:57] <fignew> ya, card is working
[07:57] <BenWhitey> aaahh so you're an expert :))
[07:57] <BenWhitey> want me to disable my router firewall?
[07:57] <fignew> oj
[07:57] <fignew> ok
[07:57] <BenWhitey> i'm not sure it will do anything
[07:57] <fignew> is your access point broadcasting ssid?
[07:58] <BenWhitey> yeah
[07:58] <fignew> look here
[07:58] <fignew> from earlier:
[07:58] <fignew> ath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"unique"  Nickname:""
[07:58] <fignew>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point: 00:06:25:F7:C8:6A
[07:58] <fignew> ahh never mind
[07:59] <BenWhitey> my router has a differnt MAC for wired and wireless
[08:00] <BenWhitey> should i uncheck "filter multicast" on my router?
[08:01] <fignew> doubt it
[08:01] <BenWhitey> k
[08:01] <Etokura_> Yeah?
[08:05] <fignew> Sorry BenWhitey, gotta go to bed
[08:05] <fignew> school tomorrow
[08:05] <BenWhitey> ok
[08:05] <BenWhitey> same here
[08:05] <BenWhitey> haha
[08:06] <BenWhitey> but no school for me, i'm done
[08:06] <BenWhitey> do you have AIM or something?
[08:06] <fignew> I'm pretty sure it's your WAP
[08:06] <fignew> yep
[08:06] <BenWhitey> so that we could continue later
[08:07] <fignew> 90% sure it's your router
[08:07] <fignew> /wireless access point
[08:07] <BenWhitey> yeah
[08:07] <BenWhitey> i donno
[08:08] <BenWhitey> works in windows which is the weird thing
[08:08] <BenWhitey> let me try trying off multicast
[08:08] <fignew> hmmmmm
[08:08] <BenWhitey> i also turned off the firewall
[08:08] <BenWhitey> lets see if it makes a difference
[08:10] <BenWhitey> is that really our AIM? or is that a bot
[08:10] <BenWhitey> i think its a bot
[08:10] <BenWhitey> lol
[08:11] <fignew> lol
[08:11] <BenWhitey> funny though
[08:11] <fignew> msg me :)
[08:11] <BenWhitey> where?
[08:11] <BenWhitey> here?
[08:11] <BenWhitey> tomorrow? or that AIM you gave me
[08:11] <fignew> on AIM
[08:11] <BenWhitey> i id
[08:11] <fignew> wait bot?
[08:11] <BenWhitey> lol
[08:11] <BenWhitey> yah
[08:12] <BenWhitey> msg me
[08:12] <fignew> hmm?
[08:12] <BenWhitey> did you get my PM in iRC?
[08:12] <fignew> no
[08:12] <BenWhitey> mm
[08:12] <BenWhitey> i'm not a registered nick
[08:12] <BenWhitey> thats why
[08:12] <fignew> :P
[08:12] <BenWhitey> ok
[08:12] <BenWhitey> go to channel of my name
[08:12] <BenWhitey> benwhitey
[08:13] <BenWhitey> i don't feel like registering
[08:28] <agady> is it possible for the power button to start shutdown immediately instead of presenting the shutdown dialog?
[08:28] <otero> I cant believe im actually on linux
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> agady: the hardware one on the front of the case?
[08:29] <agady> yes
[08:29] <drarem> congrats, otero
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> well yes, but it's not as neat. the shutdown dialogue does that in a clean manner
[08:30] <MattParry> Hi, does anyone know how to upload their openPGP key to the ubuntu server?
[08:31] <MattParry> ive tried gpg --send-key  but it is not working
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> MattParry: on Launchpad.
[08:32] <MattParry> Admiral_Chicago: yes sorry should have said that on Launchpad
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> you upload it on LP, it send you a file, you decrypt that file and i think upload that one.
[08:34] <MattParry> Ive worked through the instructions on launchpad and now have a key fingerprint
[08:34] <otero> thanks
[08:34] <MattParry> Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean LP?
[08:34] <MattParry> sorry lp = launchpad
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> MattParry: wait a second let me grab the wiki so we are on the same pafe
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> page*
[08:35] <MattParry> thank you
[08:35] <MattParry> i've done pgp --send-key
[08:36] <MattParry> it does not give an error and just returns to the command prompt
[08:37] <bky> hi. i am having an xserver problem (i think)
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> pgp?
[08:37] <bky> i tried to run init 1 from my KDE console (that was a good way to do a quick 'reboot' on fedora) but it hung on that bootup-screen thing
[08:37] <MattParry> sorry i cant type tonight! gpg
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> what was your command?
[08:38] <bky> i restarted my computer with the power button, and now when i try to login it just goes black and shows the nvidia logo again and goes back to the login screen
[08:38] <bky> mine?
[08:39] <MattParry> gpg --send-key
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> bky: sorry no that was MattParry
[08:39] <bky> oh ok
[08:39] <bentob0x> new Linux headers today, does it mean I need to re-install my nvidia drivers using the new headers?
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> bky: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a failsafe rerminal
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> bentob0x: yes
[08:39] <bentob0x> k thx
[08:39] <bky> i did that, it didn't help
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> MattParry: you need to do gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com D8FC66D2
[08:40] <bky> startx has some odd error about fonts but it doesn't sound crtical
[08:40] <bky> i'm on the install CD now, so i can edit config files and such. i think it's stuck trying to go to single user mode
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> replace D8fc...with you key
[08:41] <MattParry> Admiral_Chicago: what does the D8FC66D2 mean?
[08:41] <MattParry> i see
[08:42] <MattParry> Admiral_Chicago: Thank you for that it seems to have sent the key
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> MattParry: great now you can add it to LP
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> the link on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto should help
[08:45] <MattParry> thank you, ive just done that and now am going into my hotmail account
[08:48] <timthelion> hey
[08:48] <MattParry> ok I cant read the email in Hotmail :-(
[08:48] <bentob0x> ok, I just reinstalled the nvidia drivers with the new kernel modules, what's the point of what I just did?
[08:48] <bentob0x> just asking by curiosity ^^
[08:48] <MattParry> why is this so complicated to agree to the code of conduct?
[08:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know, i've wondered that too
[08:49] <Admiral_Chicago> bentob0x: because the restricted drivers can't be shipped with the kernel but can be made to load in the kernel
[08:50] <MattParry> brb
[08:50] <KevinAlaska> can I agree to disagree? :)
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> about the kernel?
[08:54] <RadiantFire> no, KevinAlaska thats not allowed at all!
[08:54] <RadiantFire> j/k
[08:54] <KevinAlaska> heh.. fine.. :P
[08:55] <KevinAlaska> I promise to behave... and go play on windows.... 'not!'
[08:58] <KevinAlaska> Everyone needs to just calm down and stop all this typing.. I can't get a word in edge wise.. :)
[08:58] <jew> how come when i run adept to install packages some are greyed out?
[08:58] <RadiantFire> really?
[08:58] <RadiantFire> thats odd, I don't think that is supposed to happen
[08:58] <KevinAlaska> that happened to me as well.
[08:59] <KevinAlaska> umm.. one sec.. I was given a command to fix something else but that (if I remember correctly) might have fixed it as well. let me fetch it.
[09:01] <jewski> nm
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> did your adept crash?
[09:01] <jewski> i fig it out
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> if so this fixed some problems for me.. --->sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> oh. heh.. nm then. :)
[09:01] <jewski> i got a worse prob now
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> what was it?
[09:01] <jewski> i didnt fetch updates
[09:01] <jewski> new install
[09:02] <jewski> my awful problem now is broadcom
[09:02] <KevinAlaska> broadcom.. ISP?
[09:02] <jewski> wireless
[09:02] <jewski> dmesg say bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[09:03] <KevinAlaska> humm.... I am to new to help much of anything... so many on and yet so few watching the channel.
[09:04] <jewski> brb
[09:06] <RadiantFire> jewski: install bcm43xx-fwcutter and click yes when the dialog box comes up, then sudo rmmod bcm43xx && sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[09:11] <heyholmez> anyidea why I cant connect to my wireless network with my broadcom wirelec nic
[09:11] <heyholmez> i installed fwcutter. i can see the network. it wont connect
[09:11] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: did you get the firmware too?
[09:11] <heyholmez> yeah
[09:12] <RadiantFire> did you reload the bcm43xx module after you installed the firmware?
[09:12] <heyholmez> i restarted
[09:12] <RadiantFire> have you tried using the terminal, sometimes the knetworkmanager flakes out
[09:13] <heyholmez> what do i need to do
[09:13] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: do you know what the interface is called, like eth0, wlan0?
[09:13] <heyholmez> ya
[09:13] <heyholmez> eth
[09:13] <heyholmez> 1
[09:13] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: so, open a terminal and so sudo iwconfig <eth0> essid <your essid>
[09:14] <RadiantFire> then sudo dhclient eht1
[09:15] <heyholmez> No DHCPOFFERS received     No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[09:16] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: that might be on your router end?
[09:16] <heyholmez> dangit
[09:16] <bky> ok i tried a few more things
[09:16] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: what does iwlist eth1 scan say the quality of the link is?
[09:16] <bky> kde comes up fine if i login as root
[09:16] <heyholmez> 100/100
[09:16] <bky> so it's something wrong with my user session i think. is there a way to reset that?
[09:16] <RadiantFire> ahh, thats weird
[09:16] <heyholmez> prob stupid router
[09:16] <heyholmez> brb
[09:17] <heyholmez> thanks for help
[09:18] <bky> i gotta get my KDE fixed, i have something important i have to do :-/
[09:18] <RadiantFire> bky: what error do you get?
[09:20] <bky> no crtical errors, one it says is not a problem and 3 that are about fonts and seem to not crash. the X server seems to come up (i get that odd black and white pattern and a mouse) but it goes right back to the console
[09:22] <schukeks> hallo, habemeiner meinung nach,  den tvbrowser erfolgreich auf meinem rechner installiert, aber wie bekomme ich jetzt das teil ans laufen ? ist nicht in den progs zu finden
[09:22] <heyholmez> I dont know what the problem is. Cant be the router.  I tried disabling security.  I cant get a connection, same problem
[09:23] <RadiantFire> schukeks: #kubuntu-de fur deutsche fragen
[09:24] <schukeks> sorry
[09:24] <agady> bky: try deleting, or better yet, moving the .kde folder in your home folder somewhere else
[09:24] <bky> ok. i'll go try that. brb
[09:26] <clement_> tinashe
[09:37] <bky> ok i found out something new
[09:38] <bky> it said when i tried to move that file that the device was full
[09:38] <bky> but when i did it as sudo it worked
[09:38] <bky> so i ran mount
[09:38] <bky> and it had my main drive as "rw,errors"
[09:38] <thill2708> what is the deal with reading sd cards on the laptop? I keep getting this in my dmesg: [152689.084000]  mmcblk0: error 1 sending read/write command
[09:38] <bky> does that mean the partition is currupted?
[09:39] <bky> reguardless the inability for my user to write to the drive is likely the cause of my login problem
[09:39] <RawSewage> Nvidia driver update today
[09:39] <bky> now that i look the drive is full. :S
[09:40] <agady> did it work bky?
[09:40] <lenny_> need some help!
[09:40] <bky> no
[09:40] <agady> hmmm
[09:40] <thill2708> anybody know of a fix for reading sd cards in teh card reader?
[09:40] <agady> are you sure there are no error messages?
[09:40] <bky> no but i think it's the drive now causing the problem (somehow)
[09:41] <bky> does "rw,errors[somethingelsehereiforger] " mean the partition is currupt?
[09:41] <agady> when you try to startX?
[09:42] <bky> no, it says nothing then. but when i tried to move .kde i found that it said the device was full, so i looked at mount and it said that under my main drive
[09:42] <bky> nothing of interest that is
[09:42] <KevinAlaska> I am looking for a command that searches all sub folders and deletes all files that end with -1.jpg, -2.jpg, -3.jpg etc.  The directory is /home/myname/Photos.  I am in need of this because I have just imported all photos from all the different years of back ups and when the file is a duplicate name it renames the new ones with the -1 etc before the .jpg extentsion.  Bad news is I was given this command over a week ago, good news is that my none
[09:44] <lenny_> how to clean the "history" of the searches made ?? i mean, in K menu, search files/directories
[09:45] <agady> bky: can you go to your home folder and then run cp -r .kde .kde.bak and post the output
[09:55] <MidMark> why I don't receive the new .16 kernel but only restricted, nvidia driver and libc dev?
[09:56] <MidMark> you have received new kernel via adept?
[09:59] <agady> i believe 2.6.20.15.14 is the altest kernel version midmark
[10:06] <MidMark> agady: not according to the last restricted modules that update manager want to install in my pc and according to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2007-May/000536.html
[10:12] <com13error> hi all
[10:12] <com13error> help me about ATI on kubuntu.
[10:17] <agady> midmark: your right, I was looking at linux-image-generic which still depends on linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, which is probably why -16 isn't being installed.
[10:19] <MidMark> agady: yes
[10:20] <MidMark> com13error`: !ask
[10:20] <MidMark> !ask
[10:20] <MidMark> mmm
[10:21] <com13error`> my card x600
[10:21] <com13error`> i would like to install beryl packet.
[10:21] <lenny__> Hi. how can i clean the "history" of searches made in Kmenu>find files...?
[10:24] <MidMark> com13error`: install them
[10:24] <MidMark> what is the problem???
[10:25] <MidMark> com13error`: if you don't explain what is your problem none can help you here
[10:26] <kraut> moin
[10:31] <Jack3> how can i add a program to be started at boot
[10:33] <agady> lenny__
[10:33] <agady> the history is stored in /<home>/.kde/share/config/kfindrc where <home> is your home folder
[10:35] <MidMark> Jack3: put the link in .kde/Autostart
[10:36] <MidMark> but will starts only for your user
[10:36] <MidMark> if it's a deamon then they way to do that is different
[10:38] <lenny__> Thanks, agady!
[10:39] <agady> you're welcome
[10:49] <crazy_bus> I'm trying t play a .mp4 file in kaffeine.  mp4's usually play in it but this one doesn't and comes up with this error.  xine: couldn't find demux for
[10:50] <mikkael> is it possible to get red of that 1 pixel line as shown in this screenshot: http://www.divshare.com/image/full/730647-81b
[10:50] <mikkael> *get rid
[10:52] <mike_> i have installed the mplayer plugin for firefox; some wmv file play embeded in the browser, but others open a new window to play; is there a way th make there all play embeded in the browser?
[10:53] <mike_> open in new windo as in they open the mplayer app to play
[10:56] <Boje> moinsen
[10:57] <kumamoto> does anyone know how to get the urls part of development application like bluefish to work
[10:58] <_6StringKng_> anyway I can have it clear the text on connect?
[11:06] <pisq> where do you mount a hard drive in a compaq presario box, mine is just dangling from its wires in bottom of box?
[11:10] <khaije1> i'm looking to chart out the power usage and battery life for my laptop, any ideas?
[11:13] <_6StringKng_> anyone know how to fix a mic ground issue?
[11:16] <hugolp> Hi
[11:16] <hugolp> why does kubuntu doesnt allow me to install gimp?
[11:16] <nirmal> i have installed Kubuntu then ubuntu-desktop upon it
[11:16] <TimGroe> what error comes up, hugolp ?
[11:17] <hugolp> TimGroe:  I go to install new program in the kde main menu and its just grey, it wont select
[11:17] <hugolp> I have been Ubuntu user, but I am new to kubuntu
[11:17] <TimGroe> click "Run Command" and type in adept_manager
[11:18] <hugolp> ok, so I am in a similar synaptic thing from ubuntu
[11:19] <TimGroe> yes :)
[11:19] <TimGroe> there you go!
[11:19] <nirmal> i am getting both topbar and bottom bar of kde kicker in kde session
[11:19] <BlindSIde> adept is nice
[11:19] <TimGroe> That is the Kubuntu / KDE version
[11:19] <TimGroe> ( of Synaptic )
[11:19] <hugolp> I had use it before
[11:20] <nirmal> how do i fix my sessions
[11:20] <hugolp> when I search for gimp it only comes up libgtk1.2
[11:20] <RawSewage> System Settings
[11:20] <RawSewage> Second tab
[11:20] <hugolp> thats the graphics engine for gnome is it?
[11:20] <TimGroe> nirmal: What's wrong with it ?
[11:20] <TimGroe> GTK is "Graphical Toolkit"
[11:20] <nirmal> with gnome session its working fine
[11:20] <BlindSIde> yeah gimp needs GTK
[11:20] <hugolp> its allredy installed so I guess is kde as well
[11:20] <nirmal> but when i choose kde session both the top bar and bottom kde=bar are also coming
[11:21] <hugolp> so why I cannot install gimp?
[11:21] <BlindSIde> try adding repositories
[11:21] <TimGroe> hugolp: could you take a screenshot of any errors that you get?
[11:21] <TimGroe> or does it not show up at all?
[11:21] <nirmal> TimGroe: is it for me
[11:21] <hugolp> TimGroe:  I dont get any errors, when I go to Add program I go to graphics and then there is GIMP but its all grey and is not selectable
[11:22] <TimGroe> nirmal: no :P
[11:22] <TimGroe> well, use adept_manager
[11:22] <TimGroe> and in search look for gimp
[11:22] <TimGroe> and install it there :)
[11:22] <TimGroe> just right click on it and say "Request Install" and press "Apply"
[11:23] <hugolp> TimGroe:  when I go to adept_manager and search for GIMP I only get the libgtk1.2 wich is allredy installed
[11:24] <hugolp> I though something like gimp would be alredy installed in kubuntu, guess I am used to Ubuntu
[11:24] <hugolp> no one has installed GIMP or any other graphics program in kubuntu?
[11:25] <TimGroe> OK
[11:25] <alexicon> hi everyone
[11:25] <TimGroe> goto manage repositories
[11:25] <TimGroe> and make sure they are all enabled
[11:25] <alexicon> is gimp not in the main repo??
[11:25] <TimGroe> yes.
[11:26] <alexicon> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11:26] <alexicon> i swear
[11:26] <alexicon> everytime i tell gnome to NOT change my keyboard setting it does
[11:26] <sakabatou> major kde update?
[11:26] <alexicon> ... todays updates broke my desktop
[11:26] <TimGroe> sabakas1: yes :)
[11:26] <TimGroe> KDE 3.5.7
[11:26] <alexicon> kernel updates, and nvidia
[11:27] <nirmal> TimGroe: do i need to reconfigure kde?
[11:27] <sakabatou> just woke up, updating ;D
[11:27] <hugolp> TimGroe:  where are the repos list? I cant find the menu
[11:27] <TimGroe> nirmal: I didn't have to, not for the KDE 3.5.7 update
[11:28] <gnomefreak> hugolp: repos are kept in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <TimGroe> hugolp: Adept --> Manage repositories
[11:28] <Crossover-Holic> hiii alll
[11:29] <Crossover-Holic> can u help me
[11:29] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: depends, if you need psycological (mind my spelling)  I can't help you :P
[11:30] <Crossover-Holic> i can't using my adept manager for update
[11:31] <TimGroe> hugolp: how is it going?
[11:31] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: trying to update to a new version of Ubuntu?
[11:31] <hugolp> I am editing manually sources.list cant find the repos graphic meju
[11:31] <Crossover-Holic> it say onli root privilage can modify this
[11:31] <hugolp> ok, I see now
[11:32] <hugolp> linuxmce edited my source list to only one mirror and thats why I can get GIMP
[11:32] <hugolp> I cant get GIMP*
[11:32] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: then you need to use sudo
[11:33] <_4strO> kdesu
[11:33] <TimGroe> hugolp: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted
[11:33] <Crossover-Holic> ohh
[11:33] <Crossover-Holic> i see
[11:33] <hugolp> thanks TimGroe
[11:33] <RawSewage> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000870.html
[11:34] <Crossover-Holic> how about install nvidia driver
[11:34] <Crossover-Holic> i cant resolve it
[11:34] <TimGroe> Google for a program called "envy"
[11:35] <hugolp> TimGroe:  I though the nvidia driver was in the repos
[11:35] <hugolp> I installed it from the repos
[11:36] <TimGroe> hugolp: it is, but Envy installs newer (beta) drivers, which are somewhat better then the ones in the (K)Ubuntu repos
[11:36] <hugolp> ok
[11:36] <hugolp> repo's ones work fine for me
[11:36] <Crossover-Holic> what is envy?
[11:36] <jussi01> !envy
[11:36] <jussi01> gah, bot is dead
[11:36] <TimGroe> it is a tool that enables easy install of nVidia / ATI drivers
[11:37] <TimGroe> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:38] <Crossover-Holic> where can i downlaod it
[11:38] <TimGroe> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:38] <jussi01> Crossover-Holic: at that address above
[11:38] <TimGroe> Sorry jussi01 :P
[11:38] <jussi01> :P
[11:38] <Crossover-Holic> i have finish to install Ragnarok but the graphic is very bad
[11:38] <TimGroe> [19:38:32]  <TimGroe> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:38] <TimGroe> [19:38:32]  <jussi01> Crossover-Holic: at that address above
[11:39] <TimGroe> Great timing though!
[11:39] <jussi01> yeah, very good
[11:39] <jussi01> :P
[11:39] <Crossover-Holic> thank's bro
[11:40] <Crossover-Holic> someone here using crossover
[11:40] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: make sure you select (one of) the last  option to remove nvidia drivers BEFORE you install them from Envy
[11:40] <TimGroe> *also* make sure you do not restart the X server after uninstalling nVidia drivers
[11:41] <TimGroe> apart from that it's all good :)
[11:41] <Crossover-Holic> oc
[11:41] <Crossover-Holic> this channel is very helpful
[11:44] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: that's ok to install on kubuntu
[11:45] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: Well, I have used it, and only had small issues on both 6.06 and 7.04
[11:45] <TimGroe> :)
[11:45] <TimGroe> * and 6.10
[11:45] <Crossover-Holic> o
[11:47] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: it should work, it is written in Python :)
[11:50] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe:  the size of envy is 400 kb is that right
[11:50] <TimGroe> yes
[11:50] <Crossover-Holic> sory if any wrong word
[11:50] <Crossover-Holic> :)
[11:50] <TimGroe> No, it is OK :)
[11:51] <Crossover-Holic> its .deb format
[11:52] <TimGroe> Yes
[11:52] <Crossover-Holic> how to install it
[11:52] <TimGroe> you need to right click on it
[11:52] <Crossover-Holic> and
[11:52] <TimGroe> goto Kubuntu Package Menu
[11:52] <TimGroe> and goto Install
[11:52] <Crossover-Holic> no need to kill kdm
[11:52] <TimGroe> :|
[11:52] <TimGroe> no you do not
[11:52] <TimGroe> not yet :P
[11:53] <Crossover-Holic> ok
[11:53] <Crossover-Holic> i'll try now
[11:55] <hugolp> HI
[11:55] <hugolp> Hi
[11:55] <hugolp> I solved the repos problem and I am installing gimp thanks
[11:55] <TimGroe> hugolp: no problems
[11:55] <TimGroe> :)
[11:56] <hugolp> Another thing: when I go into the kde desktop after writing the login and the pasword it ask me to enter the pasword for a sudo su command
[11:56] <hugolp> I just cancel because I dont know waht is it about
[11:56] <TimGroe> strange.
[11:56] <hugolp> how can I look what its being loaded at start
[11:56] <RawSewage> Maybe go to System Settings -> Advanced -> Sessions
[11:57] <RawSewage> and change it to Start with Empty Session
[11:57] <TimGroe> in a konsole, type cd ~/.kde/Autostart/
[11:57] <RawSewage> Which I think should be the default
[11:57] <TimGroe> and then " ls "
[11:58] <phoenix__> hi, i have ISDN ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISDN ) working (in terminal  pon/poff) can't get it working with kppp, my problem now is, that i can surf the internet with firefox but not with konqueror, konqueror open no websites
[11:59] <nirmal> your konqueror is not properly installed
[11:59] <klon> j
[11:59] <nirmal> was it working properly previously?
[12:00] <phoenix__> nirmal: konqueror is properly installed, if i go to a frined of mine and connect with dsl the konqueror work very well
[12:00] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: it's say error
[12:01] <Crossover-Holic> and i've already remove it
[12:01] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: did you do the force uninstall first?
[12:01] <hugolp> TimGroe:  I get only xhost doing ls at kde/autostart
[12:01] <TimGroe> and have you removed all the nvidia* packages from adept?
[12:01] <TimGroe> hugolp: :|
[12:01] <Crossover-Holic> i've reinstall my kubuntu
[12:01] <TimGroe> hugolp: maybe that causes it?
[12:02] <Crossover-Holic> and never install nvidia driver before
[12:02] <hugolp> have no idea what xhost is
[12:02] <TimGroe> OK, rm -rf xhost then :P
[12:02] <hugolp> mmmm
[12:02] <hugolp> I am not sure I want to do that
[12:02] <hugolp> Ill google it first
[12:02] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: well, then make sure there is nothing starting with nvidia installed in adept
[12:02] <hugolp> thanks
[12:02] <TimGroe> OK :)
[12:03] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: i was reinstall my kubuntu and never install nvidia driver before
[12:03] <Crossover-Holic> ohh
[12:03] <Crossover-Holic> ok
[12:04] <Crossover-Holic> apt-get remove envy
[12:04] <Crossover-Holic> is that ok
[12:04] <TimGroe> yes, it is :)
[12:04] <TimGroe> but ... don't you want to try it?
[12:05] <Crossover-Holic> try what?
[12:05] <TimGroe> try Envy
[12:05] <TimGroe> after you have removed all nvidia packages (if there are any)
[12:05] <Crossover-Holic> it's cant open
[12:05] <TimGroe> :|
[12:06] <TimGroe> envy -g or envy -t ?
[12:06] <TimGroe> won't open :S
[12:06] <Crossover-Holic> but.. i've remove it
[12:06] <TimGroe> oh, dw then xD
[12:06] <Crossover-Holic> i'll reinstall envy
[12:07] <Crossover-Holic> it's python need
[12:08] <Crossover-Holic> it's need python
[12:08] <TimGroe> yes
[12:09] <TimGroe> sudo apt-get python
[12:11] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: how to show "show destop" icon in panel menu
[12:12] <TimGroe> right click on an empty spot
[12:12] <TimGroe> click add aplet
[12:12] <TimGroe> and find "Show Desktop"
[12:12] <TimGroe> and press "ADD"
[12:13] <ardchoille> Crossover-Holic: If you're like me and have no empty spaces on the panel, you can right-click on the kmenu button and choose "Panel Menu"
[12:13] <Crossover-Holic> hehehe
[12:13] <Crossover-Holic> thank's man
[12:13] <Crossover-Holic> oh i see
[12:18] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: when i using adept and search nvidia, nvidia kernel common is installed
[12:18] <Crossover-Holic> what should i do
[12:18] <TimGroe> just leave it :P
[12:18] <Crossover-Holic> no nedd to remove?
[12:20] <TimGroe> no
[12:21] <Etokura> Does anyone here know much about python?
[12:21] <ardchoille> Crossover-Holic: I have nvidia drivers working and I still have nvidia-kernel-common installed
[12:40] <martint> Hi to all, kubuntu7.04 AMD64. installed beryl, now (even I hecked everything out and uninstalled beryl and even dekorator) my comp is sloooow and beryl visual efects are still working. WHat can I do?
[12:41] <TimGroe> martint: do you have an ATI / nVidia card?
[12:42] <martint> nvidia
[12:42] <TimGroe> hmmm
[12:42] <TimGroe> ** scratches head
[12:43] <martint> :)
[12:44] <martint> Gforce5200 FX
[12:46] <wharf001> Hi all
[12:47] <wharf001> I have kubuntu festy fawn thingy.
[12:47] <wharf001> how do i activate beryl
[12:47] <wharf001> i installed it using package manager
[12:47] <wharf001> and the ati support thing
[12:47] <wharf001> not sure how to actualy tell it to start
[12:47] <martint> Wharf - DO NOT USE BERYL!!!!! (Unless you know what you are doing...) read the warnings about it in forum
[12:47] <belfegor> hello
[12:48] <belfegor> my firestarter could be the problem for not seeing any computer on my network?
[12:48] <wharf001> wel thats why i came here.
[12:48] <Jucato> !beryl | wharf001
[12:48] <Jucato> ugh ubotu's lagging again...
[12:48] <Jucato> wharf001: there are links to guides in the topic of #ubuntu-effects
[12:49] <martint> wharf -good luck, it does look very good, but it makes troubles.
[12:50] <wharf001> ouch
[12:50] <wharf001> what kinda troubles?
[12:51] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: what now
[12:51] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: the envy is installed
[12:52] <martint> computer goes slow (at least I've seen it in some possts in forum and ti happend to me)
[12:52] <wharf001> ouch lol
[12:52] <martint> But for other portential problems you should chekc the forum...
[12:52] <wharf001> do you think kubunu screwed up by releasing it?
[12:52] <wharf001> hehe
[12:53] <martint> nop...
[12:53] <martint> If it is a comp you experiment with , it is totaly worth playing with . if you work with the comp , dont try it
[12:54] <wharf001> na its just to mess with
[12:54] <wharf001> making a new tower tomorow :D
[12:54] <martint> good :b, then tryt it, its very nice
[12:54] <wharf001> whats annoying is, i have install the effects..
[12:54] <wharf001> yet
[12:54] <wharf001> nothings changed.
[12:54] <wharf001> lol
[12:55] <martint> ??
[12:55] <wharf001> i mean
[12:55] <wharf001> you know pakcage manager
[12:55] <wharf001> i installed ati support and desktop effects
[12:55] <wharf001> closed it
[12:55] <wharf001> thats all i done
[12:55] <logixoul> guys, any clue as to why this is happening? http://www.warst.com/images/uploads/2007-05-25/yakbug6cde.png
[12:55] <martint> interesting, Ive seen seom posts in forum about it, but for me it worked directly after installing through packman
[12:55] <logixoul> the yakuake maintainer said it might be driver problems
[12:56] <alexicon> hey do any of you in kubuntu fiesty have a problem where your application window locks to the max size across one axis
[12:56] <wharf001> i'll brb
[12:56] <martint> good luck again
[12:57] <alexicon> i have it on my desktop and not sure if its a nvidia twinview problem or gnome or what
[12:57] <Etokura> Does anyone here know much about python?
[01:03] <Crossover-holic> TimGroe: u there
[01:09] <sorsis> if i use adept, why doesn't it see all packages that apt-get and apt-cache sees?
[01:11] <jean-benoit> !fr
[01:11] <jean-benoit> fr!
[01:11] <pag> !!fr | jean-benoit
[01:11] <jean-benoit> !fr
[01:11] <ubotu> jean-benoit: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:13] <lz1gjd> i know its not the right place to ask but could anyone tell me how to make combine several pictures into one, each of the pictures is like 2500x2500 so its not easy to do this manually. is there a program that could do this ?
[01:20] <DJServers> ey\
[01:25] <dromer> hey all, I just did a complete new install on my system using ."my-packages" and such. I copied my old /home dir to another disk (with cp -r) and now I want to replace my current /home with it. I already tried it from live cd, but apperantly it didn't work too well, I can't start kde anymore, I checked to chmod -R 766 my home dir, but I still can't startup kde
[01:26] <dromer> lz1gjd: you mean stitch htem together?
[01:26] <dromer> lz1gjd: there are panorama tools for that, chechk out hugin
[01:26] <lz1gjd> 
[01:26] <lz1gjd> oops, yes
[01:26] <dromer> !hugin
[01:26] <lz1gjd> okz, thx
[01:26] <robbie> !samba
[01:26] <dromer> lz1gjd: there are very good howto's out there, google for them
[01:27] <robbie> !kubuntu
[01:27] <lz1gjd> i'd like to create one huge map out of some smaller pieces.
[01:28] <dromer> lz1gjd: I can't access my browser atm so I can't give you my links, but you can find them on google
[01:28] <dromer> search for hugin panorama howto or something
[01:28] <dromer> lz1gjd: you stil need a program for stitching and stuff, look around :)
[01:28] <robbie> hello : just installed kubuntu - having problem connecting to samba share - getting timeout error within 3 sec -  any ideas? (works fine with fresh install of ubuntu)
[01:30] <DJServers> robbie:  ubuntu is the same ass kubuntu so dont ask me :P
[01:30] <robbie> same same but different ....:)
[01:31] <DJServers> yeah :P\
[01:31] <robbie> !uboto
[01:32] <DJServers> !kubuntu
[01:32] <robbie> hey is that uboto on holiday?????
[01:32] <DJServers> wtf are the bots offline or something
[01:33] <crimsun> it's likely just having network issues.
[01:33] <DJServers> ok
[01:34] <DJServers> dus MIRC works on linux?
[01:34] <DJServers> i want to run a GTA:SA MTa Script on it
[01:34] <DJServers> some one now?
[01:34] <defcon_> how do I change the priority of a process
[01:34] <busfahrer> I think it works with Wine
[01:34] <DJServers> busfahrer: where can i download that?
[01:35] <defcon_> !renice
[01:36] <DJServers> !mirc
[01:37] <Etokura> apt-get install wine
[01:45] <DJServers> Where can i download MIRC for Linux??????
[01:45] <TimGroe> DJServers: the same place you download it for Windows :P
[01:45] <TimGroe> then you need to install Wine
[01:45] <TimGroe> :)
[01:45] <DJServers> Wine?
[01:45] <DJServers> waht Wine
[01:45] <TimGroe> Wine is not an emulator
[01:46] <TimGroe> it allows Windows apps to run on Linux
[01:46] <DJServers> what does wine?\
[01:46] <TimGroe> not all of them
[01:46] <TimGroe> but some
[01:46] <DJServers> o ok
[01:46] <hugolp> Hi
[01:46] <DJServers> where cani download that? just look on goole?
[01:46] <hugolp> I am looking for a simple program to do grahpics, something like windows paint
[01:46] <TimGroe> wine, get it from adept_manager
[01:47] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: its me crossover-holic
[01:47] <TimGroe> Hidey Hoe
[01:47] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: thank's man for the elvy
[01:47] <|^RiaN^|> upss
[01:47] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: thank's man for the envy
[01:47] <TimGroe> you got it working?
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> tess
[01:48] <TimGroe> \o/
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> yess
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> hehehe
[01:48] <TimGroe> shweeeeeeeeet
[01:48] <TimGroe> xD
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> :)
[01:48] <TimGroe> you like it?
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> veeryy
[01:48] <TimGroe> :)
[01:48] <DJServers> i cant find adept_manager in k menu where it stands?
[01:49] <TimGroe> K Menu --> System --> Adept Manager
[01:49] <DJServers> o lol
[01:49] <DJServers> i am blind :P\
[01:49] <TimGroe> hmmmmmm
[01:49] <TimGroe> :
[01:49] <TimGroe> :P
[01:49] <|^RiaN^|> if no sudo apt-get install adept-manager
[01:49] <DJServers> lol
[01:49] <|^RiaN^|> hehehe
[01:49] <DJServers> loading
[01:50] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: u ever play gunbound
[01:50] <TimGroe> once
[01:50] <TimGroe> I work mostly on my own OS / Multimedia App these days |^RiaN^|
[01:50] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: kVric too now I see?
[01:50] <|^RiaN^|> gunbound it's a game
[01:50] <TimGroe> *kVirc
[01:50] <TimGroe> I know what it is :P
[01:51] <|^RiaN^|> ;)
[01:51] <TimGroe> do you like it?
[01:51] <|^RiaN^|> i want to install it
[01:51] <DJServers> what is the full name off wine?
[01:51] <|^RiaN^|> where to download GB
[01:51] <TimGroe> install what?
[01:51] <TimGroe> DJServers: wine
[01:51] <TimGroe> :P
[01:51] <|^RiaN^|> just wine
[01:51] <TimGroe> there is a repo you have to add
[01:51] <PhinnFort> !wine
[01:51] <Doc_Brown> hello. my kubuntu installation is running graphically slow. ie feels like no ati drivers are installed. is there some utility to install opengl or faster graphics drivers for some of the games?
[01:51] <TimGroe> to get the latest version
[01:52] <PhinnFort> darn that bot
[01:52] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: is gunbound running with wine
[01:52] <TimGroe> tes
[01:52] <TimGroe> * yes
[01:52] <PhinnFort> !wine
[01:52] <pybotu> tibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:53] <TimGroe> DJServers: don't listen to that :P
[01:53] <TimGroe> follow http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:53] <TimGroe> then you get the latest version
[01:53] <TimGroe> a new version is released ~ every 2 weeks, and each new version supports more stuff :)
[01:53] <DJServers> ok
[01:54] <TimGroe> sorry PhinnFort, but I believe that a new Wine is a good Wine
[01:55] <lz1gjd> how do you disable wine output in the konsole when you start an app, whats the command line switch?
[01:55] <TimGroe> the Wine in Kubuntu is about 8 version old IIRC
[01:55] <PhinnFort> I prefer some old wine;)
[01:55] <PhinnFort> I use the wine from the wine headquarters myself
[01:55] <TimGroe> heh :)
[01:55] <PhinnFort> but I just made my own ubotu replacement, that I wanted to try out;)
[01:55] <TimGroe> ooooohhhhhhh
[01:55] <PhinnFort> since ubotu has been going down lately
[01:55] <TimGroe> :)
[01:55] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:55] <TimGroe> add it to #advantedge
[01:56] <TimGroe> :}
[01:56] <PhinnFort> !hi
[01:56] <pybotu>  Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[01:56] <PhinnFort> not perfect, but works, until ubotu returns
[01:56] <pybotu>  Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[01:56] <TimGroe> I like Supybot :P
[01:57] <PhinnFort> well, I didn't care for running the whole shebang;)
[01:57] <PhinnFort> pybotu is 67 lines, with comments and lots of whitespaces;)
[01:58] <DJServers> What has wine to do whit mysql?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:58] <robbie> any one know how to get flash going on konqueror (youtube etc)?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> robbie: 64-bit?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> !flash
[01:58] <pybotu>  To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:59] <robbie> 32 bit
[01:59] <PhinnFort> robbie: look at that link then
[02:01] <TimGroe> DJServers: how is Wine comming along?
[02:02] <robbie> PhinnFort : thanks - it going now :)\
[02:02] <DJServers> its installed
[02:02] <DJServers> now downloading mirc
[02:03] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: u know what software to use for billing
[02:03] <|^RiaN^|> i have cyber cafe
[02:03] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: ummm
[02:03] <TimGroe> not off the top of my head :(
[02:03] <TimGroe> sorry :(
[02:04] <TimGroe> Google around a little?
[02:04] <|^RiaN^|> i see
[02:04] <TimGroe> Do a seach in Adept?
[02:04] <|^RiaN^|> it's not there
[02:04] <TimGroe> yeah, so I see
[02:04] <TimGroe> dunno
[02:04] <TimGroe> ssorry
[02:04] <DJServers> where the hell can i juse wine now?
[02:05] <TimGroe> yes :)
[02:05] <TimGroe> right click any exe and say "Open with wine"
[02:05] <|^RiaN^|> i've looking every website with it
[02:05] <azaghal> Hello. Can someone tell me how does (K)Ubuntu's kernel achieve ulimit -l unlimited for regular users?
[02:06] <DJServers> open whit wine file?\
[02:06] <TimGroe> yes
[02:06] <DJServers> ey it works!
[02:06] <DJServers> i luf you :P\
[02:07] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: how to create user like "guest" in windows
[02:07] <DJServers> whaha :P
[02:07] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: just create a new user
[02:07] <|^RiaN^|> i;ve create it
[02:07] <TimGroe> and dont put him in sudoers
[02:07] <TimGroe> in /etc/sudoers
[02:08] <|^RiaN^|> but everytime they want to use they removeable disk it's cant mount
[02:08] <DJServers> TimGroe i have installed it now but how to run it?
[02:08] <TimGroe> I have a "Windows Programs" menu here :S
[02:08] <DJServers> ? where ?
[02:09] <TimGroe> DJServers: in K
[02:09] <glenn> Hi there. Anyone know of a way to see a files creation time? Not modified! For finding out when i.e. a logg file was started (created), where the modified time would alwasy be NOW as it is continously written to...
[02:09] <DJServers> nothin stands there
[02:09] <DJServers> there is one on the desktop
[02:09] <glenn> man ls doesn't say anything about it (Creating time)...
[02:09] <DJServers> that the prog but when i klik on it it ask for a program to run it whit
[02:09] <TimGroe> well, in a Konsole, type wine C:/programs file/<name>/my.exe xD
[02:09] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: can Gunbound running with crossover
[02:10] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[02:10] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^| Dunno
[02:10] <sobersabre> is there a fax application for ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[02:10] <TimGroe> have not used CXOffice in YEARS
[02:10] <slop> i installed ubuntustudio, and now when i reboot, i get a gnarly blue screen that tells me x cannot start...but if i choose the regular kernel in grub (not the low latency one for ubuntustudio), it works fine...any ideas?
[02:10] <sobersabre> I need to receive and send faxes.
[02:10] <sobersabre> if possible
[02:10] <TimGroe> (ie, 3 months(
[02:10] <|^RiaN^|> im using crossover pro 6
[02:11] <TimGroe> sobersabre: efax good for you//
[02:11] <DJServers> TimGroe:  what do i typ in the place of <name> : C:/programs file/<name>/my.exe
[02:11] <TimGroe> the directory and file name of the installed app
[02:11] <TimGroe> from the installer :)
[02:12] <DJServers> and where can i see that :p
[02:12] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: how to configure LAN connection on damn small linux
[02:12] <TimGroe> In the KDE run window, type ~/.wine/drive_c
[02:12] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: #dsl ?
[02:12] <|^RiaN^|> yess
[02:12] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: #damnsmalllinux ?
[02:12] <TimGroe> #completelyofftopicthisisubuntunotdsl ?
[02:13] <|^RiaN^|> im using dsl on my workstation
[02:13] <Jucato> |^RiaN^|: please try to ask in DSL's channel or forum. this channel is for Kubuntu. thanks
[02:14] <lz1gjd> is there a way to install a fully functional kubuntu on on an usb stick , like being able to install additional programs later and saving settings
[02:14] <lz1gjd> maybe normal install should work but mine usb stick is 2 gb and a normal installation takes about 1.8gb
[02:14] <sobersabre> TimGroe: thanks! have you actually used it ?
[02:14] <TimGroe> sobersabre: I use a real fax machine now, but I used to :)
[02:15] <sobersabre> TimGroe: do fax machine fax filtering ?
[02:15] <DJServers> it doenst work! grrrr
[02:15] <TimGroe> sobersabre: say that in english :P
[02:15] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: how to install java with format .bin
[02:15] <DJServers> here it is located: /home/frank/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/General Use Scripts            but what do i type to start?
[02:16] <TimGroe> DJServers: file name too :)
[02:16] <sobersabre> can one configure a fax machine to filter which faxes to RCV and which not to RCV ?
[02:16] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: say chmod +x <file name>
[02:16] <sobersabre> TimGroe: by CallerID, e.g.
[02:16] <TimGroe> and then ./<file name>
[02:16] <|^RiaN^|> DJS
[02:16] <DJServers> like this? /home/frank/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/General Use Scripts/mirc.exe
[02:16] <TimGroe> sobersabre: I do not know
[02:16] <TimGroe> but it could save faxes :P
[02:16] <DJServers> o just: ./mirc.exe
[02:16] <|^RiaN^|> DJServers: using a konsole
[02:16] <DJServers> yeah
[02:16] <|^RiaN^|> go to the program direktory
[02:17] <DJServers> what?
[02:17] <TimGroe> MP
[02:17] <TimGroe> * NO
[02:17] <sobersabre> TimGroe: ok, anyway, With efax will I be getting all the faxes as files, and will be able to decide which one to print ?
[02:17] <DJServers> direktory?
[02:17] <TimGroe> wine "c:/Program Files/General Use Scripts/mirc.exe"
[02:17] <TimGroe> yeah
[02:17] <TimGroe> sobersabre: yeah
[02:17] <saurus> hi
[02:17] <|^RiaN^|> DJServers: example mirc go to the dir and type wine mirc.exe
[02:17] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: no :P
[02:17] <DJServers> TimGroe:  i luf you again :P
[02:17] <|^RiaN^|> :)
[02:18] <TimGroe> full path is better
[02:18] <|^RiaN^|> ok
[02:18] <|^RiaN^|> i see
[02:18] <TimGroe> sorry |^RiaN^| :P
[02:18] <|^RiaN^|> it's okay
[02:19] <DJServers> TimGroe:  i luf you so  much :P lol
[02:19] <|^RiaN^|> hieheiei
[02:19] <TimGroe> awwwwwww
[02:19] <TimGroe> DJServers: thanks :)
[02:19] <TimGroe> Pass it on
[02:19] <TimGroe> (the help, not the love)
[02:19] <Jucato> lz1gjd: maybe this is what you're looking for? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[02:20] <Etokura> !kdm
[02:20] <ubotwo> kdm - X display manager for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[02:20] <pybotu> Term not found.
[02:20] <lz1gjd> Jucato: thx
[02:20] <Etokura> How do I set kdm as the default display manager?
[02:20] <DJServers> yeah i am connected to my server
[02:21] <TimGroe> Etokura: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm --force
[02:21] <TimGroe> and select kdm
[02:21] <TimGroe> ( in a konsole )
[02:22] <Etokura> Is there much of a difference?
[02:22] <TimGroe> not really
[02:22] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: how to install java with format .bin
[02:22] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|:  I told you up there ^^^^^^^^
[02:22] <|^RiaN^|> lol
[02:23] <|^RiaN^|> ive miss it
[02:23] <Jucato> !java
[02:23] <ubotwo> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:23] <Jucato> (there's no need to use the .bin installer
[02:24] <|^RiaN^|> ive download the .bin format
[02:24] <|^RiaN^|> now i'll go to install it
[02:24] <Jucato> when you could have just easily installed it from Add/Remove or Adept Manager :)
[02:29] <Etokura> ng kdm
[02:29] <Etokura> I won't be using kdm
[02:29] <TimGroe> ng ?
[02:30] <Etokura> It lagged and cut me off
[02:30] <TimGroe> :S
[02:30] <TimGroe> damn
[02:30] <Etokura> When I boot with kdm it gives me a black screen with a small white terminal
[02:31] <Etokura> No GUI
[02:31] <TimGroe> :|
[02:31] <TimGroe> bugger
[02:31] <tom_> hi all how do i check if my cpu is 64bit capable?
[02:32] <TimGroe> tom_: how old is it, what is it's model?
[02:32] <tom_> its a core duo
[02:32] <TimGroe> what number?
[02:32] <tom_> T2250
[02:32] <TimGroe> ( I * think * all core duos are 64 bit )
[02:33] <^RiaN^> yes
[02:33] <tom_> hmmm is there much of a speed boost on 64 bit?
[02:33] <^RiaN^> all core duo
[02:33] <tom_> should i take the leap :P ?
[02:34] <TimGroe> tom_: not really, IN MY opionion
[02:34] <TimGroe> alot of apps need work to run in a 64 bit environment
[02:34] <TimGroe> like Flash
[02:34] <tom_> kk, i mite download th live cd and have a look
[02:34] <david2> what's the users trash folder for kde?
[02:34] <tom_> yea i heard about installing 32 bit firefox
[02:34] <david2> is is ~/.trash
[02:34] <TimGroe> david2: ~/.Trash
[02:34] <TimGroe> :)
[02:34] <david2> Cool
[02:35] <TimGroe> tom_: yeah, but 32bit firefox needs 32bit Linux libraries :P
[02:35] <david2> I want to run konqueror as root for simplicities sake
[02:35] <TimGroe> which means you do not gain all that much
[02:35] <tom_> but any open source software should run fine on 64 bit as good as 32 yes?
[02:35] <david2> but I want to make it look different so I deffinately know I have root privs
[02:35] <tom_> or better
[02:35] <TimGroe> no, some still do not run good on 64 bit yet
[02:35] <TimGroe> most do
[02:36] <tom_> oh kk thanks, im probly best just downloading the live and having a look lol
[02:37] <brandon> how do u install programs like adobe flash player?
[02:38] <crimsun> install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:38] <crimsun> (multiverse)
[02:38] <lz1gjd> you could use automatix too
[02:38] <lz1gjd> its a great script
[02:38] <lz1gjd> !automatix
[02:38] <brandon> whenever i try to download it in kubuntu it wont open up
[02:38] <ubotwo> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:39] <dak> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[02:39] <lz1gjd> what the ?
[02:39] <dak> ;)
[02:39] <lz1gjd> why is that ? ive never had any problems with automatix
[02:39] <Jucato> !worksforme
[02:39] <ubotwo> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:40] <dak> why install that 3rd party app when all you need to do is edit 1 line and run apt or a apt front end
[02:40] <Jucato> actually on feisty, you don't need to edit anything
[02:42] <brandon> am i supposed to downloa dflash as a tar.gz.?
[02:42] <dak> brandon: you have x86 right ?
[02:43] <brandon> ?
[02:43] <brandon> dunno
[02:43] <dak> odds are you do
[02:43] <dak> uname -a
[02:44] <brandon> whats x86?
[02:44] <dak> will tell ya
[02:44] <lz1gjd> is there any chance that anything fails if i install a more suitable kernel for my cpu (athlon64) non 64bit, will i need to do anything other than recompiling my graphic driver ?
[02:44] <dak> architecture of your processer
[02:44] <brandon> its amd 64
[02:44] <dak> lz1gjd: like from scratch ?
[02:44] <brandon> yea
[02:44] <SlimeyPete> lz1gjd: you mean, just swap a 64-bit kernel for a non-64 one? Your system will die.
[02:44] <lz1gjd> not really, use one from the repositories
[02:44] <dak> it is brandon ?
[02:44] <dak> here
[02:45] <lz1gjd> nonono
[02:45] <dak> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[02:45] <dak> read that
[02:45] <SlimeyPete> lz1gjd: all the software in your system has been compiled for 64 bit
[02:45] <lz1gjd> sri if i expressed myself in a wrong way
[02:45] <brandon> ty
[02:45] <lz1gjd> right now im using i386 version of kubuntu on an athlon 64 bit system, i dont want to switch to amd64 kernel
[02:46] <SlimeyPete> lz1gjd: oh, right. Yeah, it should work OK.
[02:46] <lz1gjd> just use one thats a bit better for this cpu architecure,
[02:46] <dak> it wont compile to 64 bit
[02:46] <Jucato> !64bit
[02:46] <ubotwo> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[02:46] <lz1gjd> there's amd k7 intel i686
[02:46] <dak> your system is 32 bit
[02:46] <lz1gjd> should work better i think
[02:46] <dak> thats 32bit
[02:46] <SlimeyPete> dak: he says "I don't want to switch to amd64 kernel"
[02:46] <SlimeyPete> so 32bit is fine.
[02:46] <dak> you can still have it be a amd64 setting in the kernel and i bet it compiles 32bit
[02:47] <dak> your libs and every thing is 32bit
[02:47] <dak> x86*
[02:47] <dak> so
[02:47] <david2> you lied
[02:47] <SlimeyPete> dak: he doesn't want 64-bit. He wants 32-bit, hence his clarification
[02:47] <dak> i did ?
[02:47] <david2> it aint ~/.Trash
[02:48] <dak> but cant you still pick amd64/core2 cpu in the kernel and it will still compile 32bit because his system is 32 bit?
[02:48] <dak> iv never tried it so
[02:48] <dak> but have used diff archs
[02:48] <dak> dunno
[02:48] <crimsun> ubotwo: 64bit =~ s/EMT64/EM64T/g
[02:48] <ubotwo> crimsun: Error: "64bit" is not a valid command.
[02:48] <SlimeyPete> I dunno tbh.... but the k7 kernel should be fine
[02:48] <LjL> crimsun, i'm taking note
[02:48] <dak> k7 is fine
[02:48] <lz1gjd> i dont really want to, i like my system the way it is, would just like to speed it up a bit (if possible of couse) with using a more suitable kernel for this kind of amd cpu but still 32bit
[02:49] <lz1gjd> sri for the spam
[02:49] <dak> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:49] <dak> tell you what your cpu is...
[02:49] <dak> brandon you get that script working ?
[02:49] <dak> for 32bit firefox
[02:50] <alexicon> ok that was weird!
[02:50] <alexicon> my firefox suddenly changed
[02:50] <alexicon> my theme is gone
[02:50] <lz1gjd> id like to know what happens to all modules you use when you switch to a different kernel, will alsa still work for example
[02:50] <brandon> i got firefox the problem is i want t oadd the following standalone flash player so i can go on youtube
[02:50] <selolie> Bonjour!
[02:51] <dak> brandon
[02:51] <brandon> ?
[02:51] <dak> if you are running x64 kubuntu
[02:51] <brandon> yes
[02:51] <dak> you need to use 32bit firefox for the flash to work
[02:51] <brandon> ohh now u tell me
[02:51] <dak> well
[02:51] <dak> i said
[02:51] <dak> read the url
[02:51] <dak> i pasted
[02:51] <dak> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[02:51] <dak> download the script.
[02:51] <dak> read the few lines
[02:52] <brandon> ok im downloading it
[02:52] <dak> sudo it to run it
[02:52] <dak> when you are all done
[02:52] <dak> to start firefox 32 bit type firefox32
[02:52] <brandon> where is sudo?
[02:53] <dak> in console or run"
[02:53] <dak> or make a icon
[02:53] <dak> whatever
[02:54] <selolie> who could be help me to use Konversation ? i have a problem to inter a new chan
[02:55] <brandon> The file http://home.comcast.net/~next/firefox32-2.0-ubuntu-amd64.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[02:55] <brandon> it said this?
[02:55] <brandon> after downloading it
[02:55] <dak> never used it selolie
[02:55] <dak> uh
[02:55] <dak> nevver seen that
[02:56] <selolie> i begin whis yes dak
[02:56] <dak> ctrl+c it
[02:56] <dak> del the debs in the f-base* dir
[02:56] <dak> and restart it
[02:57] <dak> or base-*/ dir
[02:57] <dak> whatever it extracted into
[02:57] <dak> did you get the right script for what ver of kubuntu you have ?
[02:57] <dak> im guessing fiesty but who knows
[02:58] <selolie> i have kde
[02:58] <david2> cool trash:/ works
[02:59] <robbie> uboto
[02:59] <dak> iv never used the program but whats your problem ?
[03:00] <robbie> !kubuntu
[03:00] <ubotwo> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:00] <robbie> !samba
[03:00] <ubotwo> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:00] <selolie> i try to enter a new canal other than ubuntu irc...
[03:01] <Quetzlcoatl> how can i watch (in firefox) sites that uses wmedia player for streaming?
[03:01] <^RiaN^> TimGroe: help mw
[03:01] <^RiaN^> TimGroe: help me
[03:01] <TimGroe> :S
[03:01] <TimGroe> with what?
[03:01] <^RiaN^> ym
[03:01] <robbie> !lost
[03:01] <ubotwo> lost+found is where !fsck places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.
[03:01] <TimGroe> ym ?
[03:01] <^RiaN^> yahoo messenger
[03:01] <TimGroe> aaahhh :)
[03:01] <dak> Quetzlcoatl: mplayer plugin
[03:01] <TimGroe> get pidgin or kopete :)
[03:01] <^RiaN^> how can i get ym
[03:02] <selolie> but it can't connec because it din't know the canal what i want.... but i now the canal is good ...
[03:02] <^RiaN^> there is ym for kubuntu
[03:02] <dak> kopete does yahoo aim msn and alot more
[03:02] <dak> its default installed i think
[03:02] <dak> check under internet on the menu
[03:02] <^RiaN^> TimGroe: how about gyach
[03:02] <dak> or goto the yahoo site and download the yahoo client i guess ?
[03:03] <dak> der /
[03:03] <TimGroe> don't know it :S
[03:03] <TimGroe> dak: that is like ... 4 years old :(
[03:03] <^RiaN^> o
[03:03] <^RiaN^> i downlaod ym format deb
[03:03] <^RiaN^> but it's error
[03:03] <dak> what is tim?
[03:03] <dak> kopete ?
[03:03] <dak> i dont use it so
[03:04] <dak> but noticed it on the menubar after install
[03:04] <dak> gaim/pidgin does yahoo
[03:04] <dak> and aim
[03:04] <^RiaN^> people who coming in my cyber cafe they confuse to use kopete
[03:05] <^RiaN^> they alway ask 'YM'
[03:05] <dak> well i didntk now you had a cyber cafe man
[03:06] <^RiaN^> :)
[03:06] <dak> so rename kopete to yahoo
[03:06] <^RiaN^> lol
[03:06] <dak> or use gaim
[03:06] <robbie> what about gaim?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> anybody can help me?
[03:06] <mika__> selamlar
[03:06] <dak> make a desktop back ground with instructions on it :p
[03:06] <^RiaN^> gyach is good too
[03:07] <^RiaN^> and this one is more difficult
[03:07] <^RiaN^> install a canon printer
[03:07] <^RiaN^> ip1600
[03:07] <^RiaN^> uhuh
[03:07] <dak> google it man
[03:07] <dak> no different then what anyone does when they dont know what to do
[03:07] <dak> and read the docs
[03:07] <dak> cups
[03:07] <dak> should support it
[03:08] <mika__> pls visit and click google www.siyasisohbet.net
[03:08] <mika__> pls visit and click google www.siyasisohbet.net
[03:08] <mika__> byeee
[03:08] <Quetzlcoatl> dak where do i find mplyer plugin for firefox?
[03:08] <dak> google
[03:08] <dak> "mplyer plugin for firefox"
[03:08] <^RiaN^> Quetzlcoatl:  sudo apt-get install mplayer
[03:08] <dak> yeah maybe their is a package
[03:09] <^RiaN^> in terminal
[03:09] <dak> apt-cache search mplayer
[03:09] <^RiaN^> in konsole
[03:10] <dak> you need the plugin rain...
[03:10] <dak> anyway google
[03:10] <dak> where is your cafe rain ?
[03:10] <^RiaN^> dak:  how about radio software
[03:10] <^RiaN^> what is name
[03:10] <^RiaN^> software for hear radio
[03:10] <dak> no clue
[03:10] <dak> fm radio ?
[03:11] <dak> no idea never had a fm card
[03:11] <^RiaN^> yes
[03:11] <dak> you need a fm card
[03:11] <dak> to listen to fm radio on your pc :p
[03:11] <dak> you know that right ?
[03:11] <^RiaN^> jukebox
[03:11] <dak> you mean internet radio ?
[03:11] <^RiaN^> yes
[03:11] <dak> dude
[03:11] <^RiaN^> internet radio
[03:11] <dak> i just asked
[03:11] <^RiaN^> hehehehe
[03:12] <dak> fm radio and you said yes
[03:12] <^RiaN^> sory man
[03:12] <dak> where are you from
[03:12] <^RiaN^> i mean internet radio
[03:13] <dak> iv never used juke
[03:13] <dak> i may have
[03:13] <dak> but
[03:13] <dak> while ago
[03:13] <dak> beep media player has a last.fm
[03:13] <^RiaN^> what software do u use
[03:13] <dak> client built into it
[03:14] <dak> bmpx - Beep Media Player eXperimental
[03:14] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok.
[03:14] <dak> apt-get it
[03:14] <dak> amarok too ya
[03:14] <dak> bmpx aka beep media player x does shoutcast and a few others
[03:15] <kendey> hello. can somebody recommend good dock for KDE? :)
[03:15] <^RiaN^> ok
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> kendey: if i said yes i'd be lying.  i haven'
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> err...  haven't found a stable one that looks halfway decent yet
[03:17] <dak> use bmpx rain
[03:17] <dak> does last.fm does podcast does icecast and shoutcast
[03:17] <dak> and cd's
[03:17] <dak> mp3
[03:17] <dak> ect.
[03:17] <^RiaN^> thanks kad
[03:18] <dak> rain where are you from in the world where is this cafe man ?
[03:18] <dak> what country
[03:18] <^RiaN^> indonesia
[03:18] <^RiaN^> im indonesian
[03:18] <dak> your time is off a bit man
[03:18] <dak> on your computer
[03:18] <dak> 09:20 [I]  CTCP TIME reply from ^RiaN^: Fri May 25 09:26:21 2007
[03:18] <dak> thats eastern daylight time
[03:18] <dak> usa
[03:18] <^RiaN^> im a billing
[03:18] <^RiaN^> now 9.30 pm here
[03:19] <dak> where are you ?
[03:19] <^RiaN^> billing man
[03:19] <dak> where is that ?
[03:19] <dak> what state
[03:19] <^RiaN^> indonesia
[03:19] <n6pfk> For some reason I am getting a segmentation fault when I start "evolution"?  Any news of this?
[03:19] <^RiaN^> manado
[03:19] <dak> wtf
[03:19] <dak> indonesia is on the other side of the world
[03:19] <dak> your time on your computer is off
[03:20] <^RiaN^> what do u mean?
[03:20] <dak> type "date" into konsole
[03:20] <dak> is that the real time ?
[03:20] <dak> heh
[03:20] <dak> cuz i did /ctcp time on you
[03:20] <^RiaN^> Fri May 25 09:28:34 CIT 2007
[03:20] <dak> and its set to like 9:20 am
[03:20] <dak> yeah
[03:20] <dak> Fri May 25 09:22:36 EDT 2007
[03:21] <dak> well
[03:21] <dak> is it 9:30am in indonesia ??
[03:21] <dak> i dont think it can be
[03:21] <^RiaN^> yes
[03:21] <^RiaN^> can be what
[03:21] <dak> rian what time is it ?
[03:21] <dak> what does your watch say
[03:21] <dak> on the clock on the weall
[03:21] <dak> wall*
[03:21] <^RiaN^> 9:29
[03:21] <dak> how in the fuck
[03:22] <^RiaN^> 9:29
[03:22] <LjL> !ohmy
[03:22] <ubotwo> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:22] <dak> sorry
[03:22] <dak> but ubotw he is on the other side of the worl
[03:22] <dak> world+ and at +7gmt
[03:22] <^RiaN^> dak what do u mean "how in the fuck"
[03:23] <dak> Jakarta, Java, Indonesia Current timeFriday, May 25, 2007 at 8:22:19 PM
[03:23] <^RiaN^> im in manado
[03:23] <dak> but dude their are only 24 horus in a day...
[03:23] <dak> and
[03:23] <sercik> ciao! c' qualcuno?
[03:23] <dak> you are +7 gmt so thats 7+ hours a head of england
[03:23] <^RiaN^> manado like makassar
[03:23] <dak> you cant be 9 in the morning
[03:23] <kendey> sercik: i don't speak your language :P
[03:24] <The_Machine> LjL, are you there?  You were helping me yesterday with my new nvidia card that I was having (am having) problems with, and I wondered if you were available for a couple of minutes to help me clear up a couple of issues i'm having?
[03:24] <Dr_willis> its 9:30 here in Indiana :) about as far from Indonesia as one can get.
[03:24] <sercik> sorry i have done a mistake!
[03:24] <dak> Dr_willis: and im in nyc and it is 9:30
[03:24] <^RiaN^> Dr_willis: u india
[03:24] <dak> so how is it 9:30am also in indeonesa
[03:24] <dak> "??
[03:24] <dak> HAHA
[03:24] <dak> dude
[03:24] <sercik> i thought to write in another channel
[03:25] <robbie> !adeptfix
[03:25] <ubotwo> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:25] <^RiaN^> it's show in my wathc
[03:25] <LjL> The_Machine: well, update me on the news. we were left at you trying to reboot and see if X started, i think
[03:25] <sercik> my windows don't boot anymore and i need to save some files that i have on the windows desktop
[03:25] <sercik> hi LjL
[03:25] <Dr_willis> Indiana :)
[03:25] <LjL> sercik, mount and save from linux...?
[03:25] <sercik> the problem is that files have spaces and strange characters!
[03:25] <Dr_willis> Indy 500 is this weekend.
[03:25] <dak> word
[03:25] <sercik> and linux say that can't  create files on destination
[03:26] <LjL> sercik: were the filenames in a language with accents, or non latin?
[03:26] <dak> i love race cars
[03:26] <sercik> yes i think so
[03:26] <kendey> dak: i love it too ;p
[03:26] <sercik> and then there are files with long filenames and spaces
[03:26] <dak> ^RiaN^: lay off the crack man :/
[03:27] <^RiaN^> what u mean
[03:27] <sercik> there is the possibility to cut or simplify filenames during copy
[03:27] <sercik> ??
[03:27] <^RiaN^> now 9:35 pm here
[03:27] <dak> rian
[03:27] <LjL> sercik, Ubuntu tries to use UTF-8 as its character encoding by default, while Windows uses UTF-16 or something. or just ISO-something. i think that might be the issue. you need to know what the mount option is to explicitly use a given encoding, not sure i remember them myself
[03:27] <dak> yes but your computer time is 9:30 am not pm
[03:27] <dak> its 24 hour time
[03:27] <^RiaN^> really
[03:27] <kendey> sercik: i'm not sure what you mean, but try wtire first letter of somebody's name and press tab
[03:27] <dak> how do you have a internet cafe using linux
[03:27] <dak> ?
[03:28] <dak> im honestly worried
[03:28] <dak> for you
[03:28] <sercik> so the solution could be mount destination partition with the correct utf?
[03:28] <^RiaN^> linux is free right
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Linux is GPL'ed 'free' correct
[03:29] <LjL> sercik: with the correct encoding, not necessarily UTF-anything. you're italian, right? so those filenames probably just contained accented vowels and you were using Latin1 on windows?
[03:29] <LjL> !fre
[03:29] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:29] <LjL> !free
[03:29] <ubotwo> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[03:29] <The_Machine> Thanks LjL, i appreciate the help.  Well, i rebooted and I was still stuck in the same loop - where i was getting complaints about mismatched kernel and nvidia driver
[03:29] <sercik> yes i'm italian
[03:29] <kendey> but most of computer users don't know about linux
[03:29] <sercik> don't you tell me more about to do?
[03:29] <sercik> or give me a hint?
[03:29] <The_Machine> right now i'm doing pretty good though..
[03:29] <kendey> for some  pc users computer = MS Windows
[03:30] <LjL> sercik, sure i will, i'm just trying to make sure we try the right options. as i said, i'm not sure i remember then right, so we'll have to do a couple attempts.
[03:30] <The_Machine> i believe i have it working so that the 'nv' driver is being used by Kubuntu rather than the proprietary driver
[03:30] <sercik> ok thanks!!
[03:30] <LjL> sercik: try  mount /dev/whatever /media/whatever -o utf8  (first unmount it, if it's already mounted), and see what the filenames are like
[03:30] <lvjiabin> 
[03:30] <lvjiabin> 
[03:30] <LjL> !cn
[03:30] <ubotwo> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:30] <The_Machine> but i don't believe that the driver is working 100% correctly, as Beryl seems broken, and there are some other unusual glitches i'm seeing
[03:30] <lvjiabin> I have a problem
[03:31] <lvjiabin> yes
[03:31] <The_Machine> (glitches I did not experience thus far)
[03:31] <lvjiabin> ?
[03:31] <sercik> i need to mount windows partition with that lines?
[03:31] <LjL> The_Machine, the "nv" open source drivers will never let you use Beryl. it doesn't support 3D at all.
[03:31] <dak> anyone else worrid for ^RiaN^ ?
[03:31] <The_Machine> LjL, i was wondering if you could help me again try to remove whatever the nvidia.com drier installs
[03:31] <dak> yes its free rian
[03:31] <LjL> sercik: well, yes, but of course change /dev/whatever and /media/whatever into what is relevant ;)
[03:31] <dak> bbl rain need a pack of cigs
[03:31] <The_Machine> okay, then i'm not using the correct driver.  If i switch to the other (proprietary) driver, i can't even startx
[03:31] <lvjiabin> And is there any Chinese?
[03:31] <LjL> The_Machine, i think we did that successfully yesterday... there must be other issues now
[03:32] <sercik> :)
[03:32] <LjL> The_Machine:  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx 
[03:32] <LjL> !cn | lvjiabin
[03:32] <ubotwo> lvjiabin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:32] <The_Machine> LjL - i was incorrect, we didn't.
[03:32] <The_Machine> okay, one moment.
[03:32] <LjL> The_Machine: hm?
[03:32] <^RiaN^> dak: how to get bmpx
[03:32] <LjL> !info bmpx
[03:32] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:32] <konrad1991pl> sudo apt-get install bmpx ??
[03:32] <LjL> !!info bmpx feisty
[03:32] <ubotu> bmpx: Beep Media Player eXperimental. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.36.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3261 kB, installed size 8888 kB
[03:32] <The_Machine>   Installed: (none)
[03:32] <The_Machine>   Candidate: 1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28
[03:32] <The_Machine>   Version table:
[03:32] <The_Machine>      1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28 0
[03:33] <The_Machine>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages
[03:33] <The_Machine>      1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-15.20 0
[03:33] <The_Machine>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages
[03:33] <The_Machine>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:33] <The_Machine> dammit, that didn't work right
[03:33] <LjL> The_Machine, use the pastebin for that...
[03:33] <The_Machine> i'm sorry
[03:33] <^RiaN^> Couldn't find package bmpx
[03:33] <The_Machine> I would have - i thought i could /notice you
[03:33] <The_Machine> won't do that anymore, sorry
[03:33] <LjL> The_Machine, why isn't it installed? we reinstalled it yesterday
[03:33] <LjL> The_Machine: oh, wait though. there is another potential problem
[03:34] <lvjiabin> thank you
[03:34] <The_Machine> i have nvidia-glx-new installed
[03:34] <The_Machine> LjL, should i uninstall it and install nvidia-glx?
[03:34] <LjL> The_Machine: the current candidate driver is for kernel 2.6.20-5-16, which was just released today, but we didn't get it updated yet (at least, i didn't)
[03:34] <The_Machine> LjL - I believe that is most of my problem :)
[03:34] <LjL> The_Machine, let me reboot (since i didn't reboot after today's update) and see if my own driver is working first
[03:34] <The_Machine> thanks!
[03:34] <LjL> The_Machine: well, yesterday this couldn't have been the problem
[03:34] <LjL> brb
[03:34] <sercik> LjL: it works! Thank you very much...
[03:35] <The_Machine> LjL - i had used the --update feature
[03:35] <The_Machine> but perhaps i'm wrong
[03:35] <LjL> sercik: at first try, cool =)
[03:35] <LjL> The_Machine: --update?
[03:35] <The_Machine> oh, with the nvidia driver (from nvidia.com) if you run it with --update it downloads the newest from the nvidia ftp
[03:35] <The_Machine> which was even newer than that from the nvidia site..  i could be way off on this.  heh.
[03:36] <The_Machine> anyway.  :)
[03:36] <LjL> The_Machine: oh, but did you do that before or after we talked?
[03:36] <The_Machine> Yes, i did that before we talked
[03:36] <LjL> ok
[03:36] <The_Machine> (ever)
[03:36] <The_Machine> Thanks for your help
[03:36] <LjL> rebooting, moment
[03:36] <The_Machine> :)
[03:36] <The_Machine> yep
[03:38] <sercik> I have changed my motherboard and windows doesn't boot anymore but linux is working!
[03:38] <konrad1991pl> i'm going out, see you later :) good bye everybody
[03:39] <sercik> finally i have received my asus a8n32-sli deluxe WOW
[03:40] <LjL> the_machine: it's still working for me, so that shouldn't be an issue. give me the output of  dpkg -l | grep nvidia  please
[03:41] <DJServers> Hey i am back all
[03:41] <DJServers> here it is like 30 Celsius hot dude :p
[03:41] <aroo>  Is there any reason not to clear out /var/cache/apt/archives ? Mine's 500mb
[03:42] <The_Machine> okay.  one moment!
[03:43] <palmer> what game is good for kubuntu?
[03:43] <wouterh> hi, does anybody knows in which package I can find the dbus.mainloop.qt python package?
[03:43] <The_Machine> pastebin is acting slow..  gr...
[03:44] <LjL> The_Machine: paste in privmsg if not too long
[03:44] <PhinnFort> aroo: sudo aptitude autoclean
[03:44] <The_Machine> k
[03:44] <PhinnFort> !info nexuiz | palmer
[03:44] <ubotwo> palmer: nexuiz - A 3d network deathmatch game - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[03:44] <DJServers> !uboito
[03:44] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:44] <PhinnFort> darn that fool
[03:44] <DJServers> whoo[s
[03:44] <The_Machine> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=79362
[03:44] <DJServers> why is it now ubotwo?
[03:44] <The_Machine> LjL, there it is
[03:44] <PhinnFort> DJServers: ubotu is dead
[03:45] <Dr_willis> Egads!
[03:45] <DJServers> ahh why i liked him :p
[03:45] <uros> hi all. when i log in and when i scan for plugins on konqueror I get a crash: "nsplugin crashed" and something with "sigsegv 11". I tried reinstalling the nsplugin package, but I get the same error. It is annoying - any ideas on how I could get rid of it?
[03:45] <PhinnFort> DJServers: I made a temporary replacement (pybotu), but someone wasn't satisified and made a better one, ubotwo
[03:45] <DJServers> o ok :P
[03:45] <LjL> PhinnFort, err, Ubotwo has been around for a couple of months actually :)
[03:46] <PhinnFort> oh?
[03:46] <Dr_willis> in training? :)
[03:46] <LjL> PhinnFort, we've used it as a backup bot everytime ubotu went down for any reason
[03:46] <PhinnFort> when noone answered !'s some hours ago, I made my own bot join, and some time later I notice he was obsolete;)
[03:46] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[03:46] <The_Machine> LjL, http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=79362
[03:46] <LjL> The_Machine, you seem to have nvidia-glx-new installed but not nvidia-glx, is that intentional?
[03:47] <DJServers> guys? i still forgot the unpack command in console can you say it one moere time :P
[03:47] <PhinnFort> tar xzf
[03:47] <PhinnFort> or xjf
[03:47] <DJServers> thx :P
[03:47] <LjL> PhinnFort, well, other ops could have made ubotwo join, but they didn't remember they could :P
[03:47] <The_Machine> LjL, i thought i was supposed to have new installed.  Should i go to nvidia-glx?  I don't know the difference..  I'm not really sure why "new" is there, either.
[03:48] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:48] <LjL> The_Machine: there are three drivers. nvidia-glx-legacy is for older nvidia cards. nvidia-glx works for most cards. nvidia-glx-new is a newer version (that also adds support for a couple of cards), but it wasn't made default because nvidia-glx is more tested
[03:49] <LjL> The_Machine: i have nvidia-glx installed, so i suggest you install it too, simply because i've never troubleshooted nvidia-glx-new. what is your card, though?
[03:49] <LjL> PhinnFort: besides, ubotu's source code is available ;)
[03:49] <The_Machine> LjL - interesting.  It is a GeForce 7300 GS
[03:49] <LjL> !hardware
[03:49] <ubotwo> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:49] <LjL> The_Machine: let me make sure nvidia-glx is ok
[03:49] <PhinnFort> LjL: I know, but I couldn't set it up in under half an hour, so it was more efficient to make one myself;)
[03:49] <The_Machine> I'm fine with having the "not new" card as long as it works.  Another question - are you able to see everything in nvidia-settings?
[03:49] <PhinnFort> (and it was fun)
[03:51] <LjL> The_Machine, it should be ok.  sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx 
[03:51] <LjL> The_Machine: "everything" as in what?
[03:52] <The_Machine> sorry, "many: menu settings.
[03:52] <jc> salut
[03:52] <The_Machine> er, "many" rather than just seeing some "About" screen
[03:52] <jc> who speak french ??
[03:52] <LjL> !fr
[03:52] <ubotwo> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:52] <jc> merci
[03:52] <LjL> The_Machine: err yeah, i've got X server information, X server display configuration, X screen 0 with lots of options, GPU 0...
[03:53] <The_Machine> cool
[03:53] <The_Machine> i'm going to do the other operation
[03:53] <LjL> The_Machine: but from your pastebin, you don't even seem to have nvidia-settings *installed*...?
[03:54] <The_Machine> heh.  That's because the proprietary nvidia-settings still exists maybe?  Odd.
[03:54] <LjL> The_Machine: ah nevermind, i don't have it installed either, the nvidia-settings binary comes from nvidia-glx rather
[03:54] <The_Machine> LjL - yeah, that's what i thought!
[03:54] <LjL> The_Machine: no it's just provided by nvidia-glx... though now i'm not sure what the nvidia-settings package is for =)
[03:54] <The_Machine> okay - reboot X or the whole OS?
[03:54] <LjL> The_Machine: try just X for a start. but enable nvidia instead of nv, first
[03:54] <LjL> (you know how to revert that if things go wrong, right?)
[03:55] <LjL> oh, nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx, mystery solved
[03:55] <The_Machine> (no) :)  When you say enable nvidia instead of nv, you mean in SYstem Settings/Display/etc?
[03:56] <LjL> The_Machine: no, i mean in xorg.conf. or use  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , which is equivalent
[03:56] <The_Machine> I need to learn that.  Thanks - let me look.
[03:56] <LjL> The_Machine: to revert it, if needed, just restore a backup of xorg.conf (which implies you should make one :P)
[03:56] <The_Machine> i have been making backups!
[03:56] <LjL> The_Machine:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup  makes a backup, and  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  restores it if you have no display
[03:57] <The_Machine> heh
[03:57] <The_Machine> almost what i've been doing
[03:57] <The_Machine> :D
[03:57] <LjL> The_Machine: besides, i think that  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  makes a backup automatically
[03:57] <LjL> not sure though
[03:58] <LjL> whops
[03:58] <LjL> The_Machine: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:58] <LjL> not the one i gave you above
[03:58] <LjL> that's deprecated
[03:58] <vbgunz> I have an interesting dilemma. everytime I enter/eject a CD, Memorystick, external harddisk, I get a popup prompting what I want to do *but* all users on other desktops also get these! it can get crazy if I mount 20+ things as when another user switches desktops, they 20+ dialogs?? this is an insane bug, is this addressed?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> other desktops? you got 20+ people using remote desktops on 1 server?
[04:01] <TheCreationist> What is the command to stop the X server?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> stop or restart? :)
[04:01] <TheCreationist> X can't be running when I install the nvidia drivers.
[04:01] <The_Machine> LjL, so in xorg i change "device" from "nv" to "nvidia"?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> - /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:01] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: Thank you.
[04:01] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: 2 users logged in. the first user mounts 20+ times (cds, etc), the second user when he switches to his desktop has 20+ dialogs asking what would you like to do with the mount
[04:01] <LjL> The_Machine: yes, but just use  sudo nvidia-xconfig  instead
[04:01] <Dr_willis> TheCreationist,  when using the package maanger. i dident have to stop X.
[04:01] <LjL> vbgunz, i don't think i see that reported anywhere
[04:01] <LjL> !bugs
[04:01] <ubotwo> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:02] <The_Machine> okay, done.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  mounts as in sticks a usb thing in the drive?
[04:02] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: The repositories don't have an nvidia driver that supports hardware acceleration.
[04:02] <LjL> although, it sounds a bit like a "design bug"
[04:02] <The_Machine> i guess i restart X now.
[04:02] <The_Machine> :)
[04:02] <The_Machine> brb!
[04:02] <The_Machine> hehe
[04:02] <Dr_willis> TheCreationist,  huh?
[04:02] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: I have to use the proprietary drivers.
[04:02] <LjL> The_Machine: make sure you have irssi handy :)
[04:02] <Dr_willis> The propiratay drivers are in the repos last i looked.
[04:02] <The_Machine> :D
[04:02] <Dr_willis> ~nvidia
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:02] <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:02] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: Hmm.. I couldn't find them.  nvidia-glx was the only driver I found.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !info nvidia-glx
[04:02] <ubotwo> nvidia-glx - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[04:03] <Dr_willis> that is the Propitary driver I thought.
[04:03] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: you get asked, what would you like to do? "open in Konqueror, do nothing, etc" the second user logged in also gets these but doesn't see them until they log in and I had an issue with over 20+ of these dialogs on the next users desktop :(
[04:03] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: I'm using Edgy if that makes a difference.
[04:03] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  untill they log in? the 2nd user may not even be logged into the desktop and they get 'saved up' ?
[04:03] <LjL> TheCreationist, let me add myself to the choir of "yes, the proprietary drivers ARE in the repos"
[04:04] <TheCreationist> LjL: Well, they don't give me hardware acceleration.  Only the official nvidia drivers do... all my opengl apps crash with the drivers in the repos.
[04:04] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: the user is logged in. we're just switching desktops. everytime I mount CD's etc, these are my CD's, etc *but* the second user ALSO gets these prompts... they should not get them but they do. unfortunately, I once seen 20+ of these dialogs when switching desktops :(
[04:05] <LjL> TheCreationist: and i suppose that, after installing nvidia-glx (and before trying the drivers from nvidia.com), you *had* followed the howto -- i.e. changed from "nv" to "nvidia" in your xorg.conf (or used  sudo nvidia-xconfig , same thing)
[04:06] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  testing that now.. I made a 2nd user. logged into them with Switchuser-StartNewSession
[04:06] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: awesome, tell me if you see what I am talking about :)
[04:06] <vbgunz> mount a cd 3 times (more than once) in the first session, then switch to the second desktop and you'll have 3 prompts
[04:06] <LjL> vbgunz: if that's the case, file a bug and let dr_willis confirm it.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  well initial test.. yes. thats how it works.. :) KDE poped up a dialog. gnome just auto-mounted and poped up a window.
[04:07] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  its doing what its designed to do. :)  which user Should the thing be going to? heh
[04:07] <Tobsan> my sound does not work :(
[04:07] <Tobsan> i think i have the wrong drivers installed...
[04:07] <Tobsan> anyone who knows how to fix it?
[04:08] <DJServers> install new drivers
[04:08] <DJServers> t:P
[04:08] <Dr_willis> I dont see any 'fix' for it really.  the automounter is auto mounting and kde/gnome is seeing it. so only fix i can think of off hand wouldbe to disable the automounting of the removeable media
[04:08] <LjL> Dr_willis: the one whose X is currently in the foreground, i'd say. but it's certainly something quite deeply rooted in the design of the whole multiuserness
[04:08] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: if you mount a CD 3 times, or 3 different CD's, the next user gets 3 prompts in which only 1 or none will actually exist :(
[04:08] <Dr_willis> LjL,  right. but how can one even tell whichis in the forgound.
[04:09] <LjL> Dr_willis: if (this is the only X running) show_dialog; else { if (this X is in the foreground) show_dialog ; else shutup }
[04:09] <LjL> oh, i'm sure there has to be a way :)
[04:09] <awatson> LjL, are you there?
[04:09] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  ok. how about this.. for a Single user logged in. I plug in the usb gizmo - it pops uop a dialog.. i let it alone.. I remove/replug it in again.. i get a 2nd dialog. :)
[04:09] <awatson> (this is The_Machine)
[04:09] <Dr_willis> and so on.
[04:09] <LjL> awatson: from irssi, i assume
[04:09] <awatson> from bitchx..
[04:09] <Dr_willis> 2 related issues here it seems. :) both result from trying to make things 'user friendly'
[04:09] <awatson> close enough (i forgot the name of irssi)
[04:10] <LjL> awatson: have you also tried rebooting or just restarting X?
[04:10] <awatson> restarting X was successful - even beryl ran.
[04:10] <awatson> THis is after a reboot, which has been my chronic problem
[04:10] <awatson> LjL - I can give you my error though!
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. if you had several users running gnome.. i wonder if they would allget a filemanager window with permissions for the device.
[04:11] <TheCreationist> LjL: Just to let you know, after following the nvidia how-to, my computer restarts with X crashing.  So yeah, I didn't ask how to install the drivers through the repos, but how to shutdown X, that's all.  Thanks for you help anyway.
[04:11] <s330d3r> have a external drive that has ntfs but I cannot auto-connect it to my laptop... any ideas on how to get this working?
[04:11] <LjL> awatson: wait if you got X running with acceleration, why are you from bitchx?
[04:11] <Tobsan> is there a thing like windowsupdate for kubuntu?
[04:11] <Tobsan> like drivers and stuff?
[04:11] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: hmm, I think no matter what, it should just automount without a prompt for every other user but the active user. in other words, if I am the active user I get the prompt *but* for any other user not currently active, it should be automounted and thats it :)
[04:11] <vbgunz> what do you think/
[04:11] <LjL> Tobsan: .....:?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> Tobsan,  havent noticed the update system icon at thebottomn left eh?
[04:11] <Tobsan> Dr_willis: yes i have
[04:11] <LjL> Tobsan: ever noticed there is an icon that pops up when security updates or bugfixes are available?
[04:11] <LjL> there's been ones right today
[04:11] <Tobsan> but i have lost my sound drivers :(
[04:12] <Tobsan> i have lost my sound drivers
[04:12] <Tobsan> and i cant seem to get them back :(
[04:12] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  thats just it - what if i have 5 remote desktops all loggeded into the same linux box via xdmcp - they are all active.
[04:12] <LjL> what makes you say you've lost your sound drivers?
[04:12] <Tobsan> LjL: i have no sound in my system :/
[04:12] <awatson> Error:  API mismatch: the Nvidia kernel modele has the version 1.0.-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[04:13] <awatson> LjL - I restarted X after our last convo, and it was working (3d, the drivers, everything).  Did a reboot and x won't start -- with this error
[04:13] <LjL> awatson: that would have been before rebooting i suppose?
[04:13] <LjL> uh
[04:13] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  looks like a 'user friendlyness' fighting with 'flexability of design' thing.  about the only thing i can think of wouldbe to disable automounting totally.
[04:13] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: not sure about that, I am unfamiliar with it :( I just think this could be done better. I thought it was a bug but this is by design?
[04:13] <^RiaN^> awatson: don't u try using envy
[04:13] <Tobsan> and KMix doenst know i have a sound card either :(
[04:13] <awatson> LjL, yes sir.
[04:13] <awatson> RiaN - i won't, thanks
[04:13] <LjL> awatson: dpkg --get-selection | grep nvidia again please
[04:13] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  the parts are acting as they are told. to give a better single-user-experience it seems.
[04:13] <LjL> awatson: (note you can use the "gpm" package to easily copy and paste from the console)
[04:13] <awatson> LjL - do you know how i can do this command in bitchx
[04:14] <LjL> awatson: it's a shell command, you don't do it from inside bitchx. just switch to another terminal by pressing Alt+F2
[04:14] <LjL> go back with Alt+F1
[04:14] <awatson> or should i use irssi?
[04:14] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  running a few vnc sessions also to see what happens. :)
[04:14] <awatson> (is it easier?)
[04:14] <Dr_willis> i perfer irssi to BitchX
[04:14] <LjL> awatson: dunno
[04:14] <awatson> k
[04:14] <Tobsan> LjL: any idea about how i can get them back?
[04:14] <LjL> Tobsan: i don't know, did you originally install drivers for your soundcard "manually"?
[04:15] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: I'd like to bring this up someplace for discussion, what would you recommend?
[04:15] <Tobsan> i did install new drivers, from Intel (as my soundcard is Intel) and then, sound was gone
[04:15] <Tobsan> :(
[04:15] <Tobsan> it did work before that, though
[04:15] <LjL> Tobsan, installing third-party drivers is bound to get you into trouble when there are updates... i'm not too much of an expert on alsa and sound, though
[04:16] <Tobsan> is there a way to restore my driver?
[04:16] <ahmed> hii.. guys ,,, its ma first time to use linux and i still want my windows games- applications,, i tried using wine, crossover,and cedega,, but some apps-games failed to be emulated especially ones that uses directx any other good emulation softwares ???????????PLZ HELP
[04:16] <LjL> ahmed: just dual boot Windows
[04:17] <awatson> LjL, it's complaining about this command:  dpkg --get-selection | grep nvidia
[04:17] <^RiaN^> use vmware
[04:17] <LjL> awatson: selectionS
[04:17] <awatson> (and I don't know how i would be able to copy/paste the results)
[04:17] <vbgunz> ahmed: yup, dual booting is about the only way to really get full Windows compatibility
[04:17] <awatson> okay, one moment
[04:17] <LjL> awatson,  sudo apt-get install gpm , and then your mouse will work for copying and pasting
[04:17] <awatson> sweet :)
[04:17] <LjL> awatson: (click and drag to select & copy, then middle click to paste - NOT in the channel :P)
[04:17] <ahmed> vbgunz.. i heard abt xwine theyh say its works better, also some ppl suggested to use vmware or others to emulate windows os itself..
[04:18] <swhalen> Hello, can anyone halp me with KBFX?
[04:18] <LjL> ahmed, vmware has some DirectX support now, it's still labelled as very experimental though. not sure how much it can do
[04:18] <LjL> when i say DirectX i mean Direct3D
[04:19] <^RiaN^> but u maus have a big ram for vmware at least 1gb
[04:19] <vbgunz> ahmed: I recommend VirtualBox over vmware as it is free and has chock more options *but* for gaming, I wouldn't recommend either one *but* only a dual boot system :(
[04:19] <Dr_willis> i had fewer issues with VMware compared to Virtualbox.
[04:19] <Dr_willis> had a lot of livecd's that dident work right with Virtualbox
[04:20] <^RiaN^> use the new vmware
[04:20] <Dr_willis> I agree - for games = dual boot
[04:20] <vbgunz> ahmed: there is a trick that will get you into a Windows dual boot in seconds rather than minutes. rather than *reboot* simply hibernate *both* systems and upon awakening, you'll get grub to choose which system to go back too in seconds
[04:20] <Dr_willis> heh
[04:20] <ahmed> hmm...
[04:20] <ahmed> not bad one
[04:20] <Dr_willis> windows hibernation always screwed up on me
[04:20] <ahmed> exactly
[04:21] <ahmed> thats wat always happens
[04:21] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: I agree, VirtualBox and live cds always give me a kernel panic :(
[04:21] <ahmed> windows hibernation kills
[04:21] <Dr_willis> windows always screwed up on me
[04:21] <LjL> Dr_willis: weird, that's what *Ubuntu* hibernation does for me :P
[04:21] <awatson> i can't promise this paste isn't going to spill into the channel
[04:21] <Dr_willis> ubuntu onmy laptop has decent suspend/hibernate now. :)
[04:21] <Dr_willis> i was suprised it actually worked.
[04:21] <awatson> LjL, pasting now
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-glx                                      install
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-glx-new                                  deinstall
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-kernel-common                            install
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-new-kernel-source                        install
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-settings                                 deinstall
[04:21] <awatson> awatson@AlexKubuntu:~$
[04:21] <awatson> crap
[04:21] <LjL> hm
[04:21] <awatson> :(
[04:21] <LjL> ok, it's ok
[04:21] <awatson> i got one line to ya!
[04:21] <LjL> actually, no :P
[04:22] <LjL> what was the line?
[04:22] <awatson> LjL, it was just the command
[04:22] <LjL> ok
[04:22] <awatson> anyway.  WHat's my next move my friend?
[04:22] <Tobsan> so is there no way i can restore my sound drivers?
[04:23] <LjL> awatson: thinking
[04:23] <awatson> k :)
[04:23] <vbgunz> Tobsan: you know what your sound drivers are?
[04:23] <Tobsan> vbgunz: what do you mean?
[04:23] <LjL> awatson: i don't have nvidia-new-kernel-source installed... but i doubt that's an issue
[04:23] <vbgunz> you know how to install them using apt-get?
[04:23] <Tobsan> i installed new drivers from Intel (matching my soundcard it said) but the sound stopped working after that
[04:23] <awatson> LjL - i don't think so either.  i'll uninstall it anyway.
[04:24] <Tobsan> vbgunz: so i want to get back the sound drivers i had before
[04:24] <ahmed_>  guys any one used virtual box be4 ??
[04:24] <Tobsan> default or whatever they are
[04:24] <vbgunz> ahmed: i use it, it's fine for running Windows XP on my end, if not great
[04:25] <vbgunz> but running live cd's is a problem until the next version
[04:25] <vbgunz> Tobsan: sorry, I don't know how to work with sound, I thought you knew how to apt-get your drivers, I would have shown you how to reinstall
[04:26] <Tobsan> can i find the name of them somewhere so that i can apt-get them?
[04:26] <awatson> LjL, I know how i can get back into X, but it won't help me fix my problem.
[04:26] <LjL> awatson: i understand that
[04:26] <awatson> LjL, if i sudo sh NVIDIAdrivername.sh, reinstall the nvidia driver..  etc., i can get back in (that's what i was doing before when i was stuck unable to get into X)
[04:26] <vbgunz> Tobsan: not really :( How about "uninstalling" the intel drivers you got?
[04:26] <LjL> awatson: i just don't know why your system thinks you still have the newer mismatching version of the module
[04:27] <Tobsan> vbgunz: now do i do that?
[04:27] <LjL> awatson: leave nvidia alone, actually try debsums again
[04:27] <LjL> awatson: sudo debsums | grep -v OK
[04:27] <vbgunz> Tobsan: that is probably in the intel readme
[04:27] <Tobsan> oh
[04:27] <vbgunz> you got a .run file?
[04:27] <Tobsan> brb :)
[04:27] <Tobsan> dont think so
[04:27] <vbgunz> yeah check the readme :)
[04:28] <awatson> it's running
[04:28] <awatson> i'll paste the results in a msg to you
[04:28] <LjL> awatson: try to make that a message, yes :P i think typing  /query ljl  should open you a window with me
[04:29] <swhalen> Help! i cant get XBFX to work
[04:30] <swhalen> it works, but no items show up in the menus
[04:30] <awatson> LjL, do you see my msg?
[04:31] <LjL> awatson: yes, i was smoking a cigarette, looking now
[04:38] <ahmed_>  guys.. as for gaming emulation, instead of emulating windows now,, will ps2 emulating be a good suggestion for games on linux ??
[04:39] <nix> Hello everybody..
[04:40] <nix> About the kubuntu 7.04 DVD, is it a live disk or an alternate installer?
[04:40] <dennister> hey ppl...anyone else having severe problems with firefox on feisty?
[04:40] <dennister> like constant crashes, nonresponsiveness, popups, etc.?
[04:41] <nix> i'm using firefox on dapper without any problems
[04:41] <Tobsan> i fixed my sound \o/
[04:41] <nix> hey maybe try disabling all the extensions.
[04:41] <Tobsan> oss driver or whatever it was =)
[04:42] <ahmed_>  guys.. as for gaming emulation, instead of emulating windows now,, will ps2 emulating be a good suggestion for games on linux ??
[04:42] <dennister> i only have 2 extensions going, and the problems were existing before those extensions were installed
[04:43] <dennister> i can't believe, even with popups blocked, I'm constantly being forced to close a party poker popup i never installed or allowed to be installed
[04:44] <dennister> you'd think i was a novice winblows user, lol...who didn't know about things like utilities and spyware tools
[04:46] <guest_> hi
[04:47] <guest_> $B$3$s$K$A$o(B
[04:47] <guest_> $BF|K\(B
[04:47] <guest_> can u read Japanese?
[04:48] <LjL> !jp
[04:48] <ubotwo>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[04:48] <guest_> thanks :)
[04:48] <guest_> $B$3$l$OAG@2$i$7$$!*!!(BKonversation!!
[04:49] <nix> not many people awake today..
[04:58] <s330d3r> can anyone help?  I am having issues connecting a usb drive formatted with ntfs...
[04:59] <ardchoille> !ntfs
[04:59] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:59] <ubuntu_> hi guys
[04:59] <ubuntu_> i am trying to detect my internal dial up modem
[04:59] <ubuntu_> how do i do this??
[04:59] <ubuntu_> i am using fiesty
[05:01] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: does lspci show it?
[05:01] <ubuntu_> i haven tried it as yet
[05:01] <ubuntu_> i'm pretty new at this
[05:01] <ubuntu_> so how would i be able to do that??
[05:02] <TheCreationist> How do I unlock the apt database file?  Adept is saying it is in use, but I just booted my computer.
[05:02] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: Alt+F2, then type konsole, now you have a command line, now run lspci
[05:02] <Ace2016> in konsole
[05:02] <ubuntu_> ok
[05:04] <ludu__> ubuntu_  dit lspci found it?
[05:04] <ubuntu_> i didn't see it
[05:04] <ludu__> is it maybe disabled from bios?
[05:04] <pag> !fixadept
[05:04] <ripper> hi @ all
[05:04] <ubotwo> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:05] <Ace2016> hi
[05:05] <ripper> is her a german?
[05:05] <pag> !de | ripper
[05:05] <ubotwo> ripper: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:05] <ripper> jo
[05:06] <ripper> THX
[05:15] <DaSkreech> can I turn off apport?
[05:16] <Ace2016> DaSkreech: in what context?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Ace2016: as in it being off?
[05:18] <Vedo> hi, were i find it.map.gz in kubuntu 7.04 thanks
[05:18] <Ace2016> DaSkreech: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport  < if you aren't interested in submitting bug reports then i guess you can disable it
[05:18] <Ace2016> Vedo: use locate
[05:19] <Vedo> i don't find it
[05:19] <Ace2016> Vedo: is it an italian keyboard mapping?
[05:19] <Vedo> yes
[05:19] <Ace2016> Vedo: have you installed those?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Ace2016: Not so much that I'm not interested just that a) most apps don't have debugging turned on so the reports are mostly useless and b) everytime I login it tells me every process in the Process table has crashed
[05:20] <Vedo> yes
[05:20] <Vedo> i want find file for see the layout
[05:21] <Ace2016> lol
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Morning
[05:22] <Jucato> moin DaSkreech
[05:22] <DaSkreech> hi Quetzlcoatl
[05:22] <ahmed> guys when trying to install ubuntu studio it doesnt detect my cd drive in the installation though it loads and boots from it .
[05:22] <Quetzlcoatl> hi DaSkreech
[05:22] <Jucato> !ubuntustudio
[05:22] <ubotwo> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[05:22] <Jucato> ahmed: ^^^^
[05:23] <Ace2016> Vedo: try sudo apt-get install kdb, then do sudo updatedb, then use locate to find the file
[05:23] <kane_> do any of yall use beryl?
[05:23] <ahmed> guys when trying to install ubuntu it doesnt detect my cd drive (using external usb cd) in the installation though it loads and boots from it .
[05:24] <Ace2016> Vedo: i've never used it before but i guess you also need to install kbd-compat
[05:24] <hvralpha> ahmed, a\
[05:24] <ahmed> wat ?
[05:24] <ahmed> wats a< ?
[05:24] <kane_> avinashm_: do your kde menus kinda overlap eachother a little bit?
[05:25] <hvralpha> ahmed have you checked your fstab setup?
[05:25] <ahmed> wats fstab
[05:25] <ahmed> ?
[05:25] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[05:25] <ubotwo> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:25] <Jucato> ahmed: also try asking in #ubuntustudio if you're installing ubuntu studio
[05:25] <kane_> like in the kmenu the older old appears "higher" and a little overlaping the child
[05:26] <ahmed> they have no idea abt it plus this problem happens with both ubuntu and ubuntu studio
[05:26] <Vedo> there aren't kdb-compat in the ufficial repository
[05:26] <hvralpha> file in dir /etc which must have line for your cd drive
[05:26] <Ace2016> kane_: i use beryl
[05:26] <kane_> ahmed perhaps you should post your stab to pastebin.
[05:27] <kane_> Ace2016: yeah did you see what i asked about the kmenu kind overlapping eachother?
[05:27] <kane_> Ace2016: do you experince that?
[05:28] <Ace2016> kmenu overlapping what?
[05:29] <kane_> Heh, hard to explain, like in the kmenu when you go to the "child" menus the parrent menu kind overlaps the child menu a little.
[05:29] <kane_> the child menu seems to start slightly under the rendering for the parent.
[05:31] <Ace2016> kane_: no never happened, the main kmenu is under the new sub menus
[05:32] <kane_> ah well, such is life. its just slightly annoying.
[05:33] <kane_> i dont really use the menus anyway
[05:34] <Ace2016> Alt+F2 rules
[05:36] <rothchild> hey anyone any good with ndiswrapper and bcm43xx cards?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Ace2016: Alt+Space rules :)
[05:39] <rothchild> it's installed but when I do ndiswrapper -l i get
[05:39] <rothchild> device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[05:39] <rothchild> i've tried the help here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,troubleshooting/
[05:41] <kane_> have you checked this out? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&page=56
[05:42] <rothchild> yeah that's where I started I've been using the guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&highlight=bcm+4306+ndiswrapper
[05:42] <rothchild> gonna take it all out and restart from scratch I think
[05:43] <kane_> yeah make sure you black list the bcm driver.
[05:43] <kane_> or uninstall them.
[05:43] <kane_> can always apt-get them back.
[05:44] <rothchild> yup they are blacklisted
[05:44] <rothchild> for some reason when I try to wget the ndiswrapper from sourceforge I'm getting Cannot write to `ndiswrapper-1.44.tar.gz' (Permission denied)
[05:45] <nando_> Hola quien me ayuda con beryl?
[05:46] <abe> hi
[05:46] <terrestre> i have a lot of kde upgrades
[05:46] <kane_> rothchild: are you in in dir that you have write priv to?
[05:46] <creadorcreativo> nando_: #kubuntu-es
[05:47] <rothchild> kane_ I just worked that one out DOH!
[05:47] <kane_> : )
[05:47] <terrestre> theres a lot of upgrades today from kde
[05:49] <terrestre> maybe for kde 2.5.7
[05:49] <terrestre> 3.5.7
[05:49] <kane_> terrestre: i dont see many.
[05:50] <terrestre> no?
[05:50] <arkygeek> hi everyone
[05:50] <kane_> you have to unable the kde 3.5.7 repos your self.
[05:50] <K-Ryan> Hi arkygeek
[05:50] <kane_> they are not pushing them out to all users.
[05:50] <terrestre> i have like 30 pakckages
[05:50] <kane_> if you did enable them though, that would explain it.
[05:51] <arkygeek> I am fighting (a losing) battle with a Belkin wifi Ver.7000uk
[05:51] <terrestre> its was a question, actually
[05:51] <rothchild> hmm still getting: device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[05:51] <rothchild> when I do ndiswrapper -l
[05:51] <kane_> rothchild: it sounds like those old drivers are getting loaded still.
[05:52] <kane_> did your rmmod them?
[05:52] <kane_> er did you rmmod
[05:52] <rothchild> yup here's the output: ERROR: Module bcmw43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[05:53] <rothchild> and in the blacklist too
[05:53] <arkygeek> i get blkwgdv7 : driver installed        device (1799:700F) present
[05:53] <arkygeek> but badness on boot - (hangs until I press ctrl-alt-del) and iwconfig shows nothing :'(
[05:54] <arkygeek> lspci -v  shows 03:05.0 Ethernet controller: Belkin Unknown device 700f (rev 20)        Subsystem: Belkin Unknown device 700f
[05:54] <kane_> rothchild: hrm, i dunno then, ive never had that particular issue with ndiswrapper.
[05:54] <kane_> rothchild: i would apt remove them and reboot and try ndiswrapper again.
[05:55] <kane_> but thats just me, and a shot in the dark.
[05:56] <rothchild> kane_ thanks I'm gonna give it a go
[05:56] <ubuntu_> Hi.
[05:57] <ubuntu_> I just installed gnome desktop environement. Now when I boot, my PC 'halts' at 'boot' After loadingthe kernel) and won't go any further.
[05:58] <ubuntu_> I'm using the Live CD as an emergency.
[05:58] <ubuntu_> Can anyone save me?
[05:58] <K-Ryan> Does the GRUB boot screen come up? Where you pick what OS you're going to boot, that thing.
[05:59] <ubuntu_> Yes, that comes up.
[05:59] <ubuntu_> When the word 'boot' appears, notheing else happens.
[05:59] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: and what happens after you select the item in grub and press enter?
[06:00] <ubuntu_> Oh, ISWYM. I'm not sure, I get a few lines of code - kernnel loaded etc. then 'boot'
[06:00] <ubuntu_> That's all.
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Have you made any changes to your /etc/fstab?
[06:00] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: what happens when you start in resqueue mode?
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Ace2016: rescue =P
[06:01] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: No changes - just went to repisotory and installed gde
[06:01] <ubuntu_> Ace2016: Not sure how to do that. :(
[06:01] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: You don't have a recovery mode option at the boot screen?
[06:01] <Ace2016> ubuntu_:  (recovery mode) what errors do you get when you use the recovery mode?
[06:01] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: Not AFAIK.
[06:02] <K-Ryan> It should be right underneath the option you were using.
[06:02] <ubuntu_> The thing is, I don't seem to *have* any options - unless there's some intervention with an F key or somesuch.
[06:02] <Ace2016> ???
[06:02] <K-Ryan> No
[06:03] <K-Ryan> There isn't
[06:03] <ubuntu_> Oh.
[06:03] <K-Ryan> So hold on
[06:03] <ubuntu_> OK.
[06:03] <K-Ryan> You can pick "Ubuntu Kernel....." right?
[06:03] <K-Ryan> In that menu that pops up
[06:03] <maloso> hi i have a question i dont know my  root password how can i get this?
[06:03] <ubuntu_> There's no 'menu' - Ubuntu Kernal shows automaticall at the top of the screen.
[06:04] <Lichte> the release notes to 3.5.7 says it includes kdevelop 3.4.1, but after upgrading only 3.4.0 is available....will 3.4.1 be available soon ?
[06:04] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: so you don't have a send option like in here? http://yekubuntu.free.fr/hoary/images/grub.jpeg
[06:04] <ubuntu_> No. it not gui at all.
[06:04] <kane_> maloso: ubuntu doesnt really use the root password, you can use sudo for everything.
[06:04] <ubuntu_> just a few lines of code on the black screen.
[06:05] <kane_> and if something asks for the root password, just enter your normal password.
[06:05] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: so you don't get that chooser? like the one in the image?
[06:05] <ubuntu_> oh, hang on
[06:05] <ubuntu_> didn't see the url ...
[06:05] <kane_> if he doesnt have another os installed he wont get the chooser.
[06:05] <ubuntu_> No, I don't get the chooser.
[06:05] <K-Ryan> Does Kubuntu try to boot?
[06:05] <ubuntu_> Only have (K)ubuntu.
[06:06] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: did you have windows installed?
[06:06] <kane_> ok you have to hit like f5 during boot.
[06:06] <kane_> or somthing
[06:06] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: Yes, it does, but stops at the word 'boot'
[06:06] <kane_> it tells you what to press
[06:06] <K-Ryan> Okay, now I'm understanding this
[06:06] <ubuntu_> Ace2016: Previoulsy , yes.
[06:06] <K-Ryan> Well the problem, not the solution.
[06:06] <abe> maybe he can use a live cd to reinstall grub
[06:06] <ubuntu_> OK. So I'll try again and press F5?
[06:06] <rothchild> thanls kane I'm not 100% sure what I've done but I appear to be wirelessly connected now! WOOT!
[06:07] <abe> !es
[06:07] <ubotwo> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:07] <Ace2016> what about mounting the root partition and making sure the menu.lst is ok?
[06:08] <ubuntu_> Ace2016: Not sure how to do that.
[06:08] <K-Ryan> Oh did I say /etc/fstab before?
[06:08] <Lichte> anyone know how to get networkmanager to keep my domain named saved ??
[06:08] <K-Ryan> I meant /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:08] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: Yes, you did.
[06:08] <kane_> rothchild: heh, awesome.
[06:09] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: Sorry, I was thinking about my swap problem from before...
[06:09] <ubuntu_> Thank God, I've at least got the Live CD so I can check all this out!!
[06:09] <ubuntu_> I mean to join this channel.
[06:09] <K-Ryan> Mmm
[06:09] <audiowork> are sata NTFS drives recognized at install?
[06:10] <kane_> audiowork: they should be, you might have to mount them yourself.
[06:10] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: Shall I reboot and F5?
[06:10] <K-Ryan> I think so audiowork, mine were.
[06:10] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: Worth a shot
[06:10] <K-Ryan> We'll start there I guess
[06:10] <kane_> ubuntu_: look for what it tells you to press.
[06:10] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: OK, I'll (probably) be back :)
[06:10] <ubuntu_> thx for help so far.
[06:10] <kane_> i cant recall ifts f5 or not
[06:10] <K-Ryan> Come back to let us know if it works just in case it does.
[06:11] <Ace2016> well the thing i don't get is installing gnome in kubuntu should not do this, it shouldn't mess up the kernel or grub, did the process get interupted?? the only thing it messes with the kernel that'll leave you with a non booting system is the initrd image,
[06:11] <ubuntu_> F-Ryan: OK.
[06:11] <abe> ubuntu_ maybe check first the grub
[06:11] <audiowork> kane_: ok i have 3 hds right now. 2 data 1 system. I want format system throw kubuntu on
[06:11] <K-Ryan> abe: He's trying recovery mode
[06:11] <ubuntu_> Ace2016: AFAIK nothing go t interuppted
[06:11] <ubuntu_> abe: How check that?
[06:11] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: if thats not tehre then
[06:12] <ubuntu_> OK. I'll brb
[06:12] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: Try the F5 first
[06:12] <ubuntu_> kk
[06:12] <kane_> aaahhh youre talking about during the actual install proccess.  like during the partion part yes?
[06:12] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: then go to the option you have in grub, then press "e", go to the second line, press "e" again and edit it and remove splash and quiet from the end of it
[06:12] <Ace2016> :/
[06:12] <abe> jajaja
[06:12] <abe> maybe later :)
[06:13] <kane_> audiowork: it whould recognize it, you might have to remember what size it is so you can identify it from the other harddrives.
[06:14] <caotic> hi
[06:14] <K-Ryan> Hi caotic!
[06:14] <caotic> does anyone know if it's possible to pipe a video emulating a webcam usb port or something like that?
[06:15] <caotic> I want to stream a video to a friend I am chatting with on webcam, can I tell amsn to read the video as a webcam stream?
[06:18] <kilrae__> would someone mind helping me confirm an openoffice bug?  certain documents crash OO for me, but I've tested it in Windows and SuSe and they're fine, I'm wondering if it's the ubuntu package or me
[06:19] <LjL> kilrae__, i suppose i need the documents, but yes
[06:19] <kilrae__> LjL: http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/courts/feewaiver/guide-forms.asp
[06:19] <terrestre> i take a look too
[06:20] <kilrae__> LjL: try opening one of the word documents
[06:20] <ubuntu_> Hi guys. 'escape' accessed the menu.
[06:20] <terrestre> so you have a hidden grub
[06:20] <K-Ryan> Any luck with recovery mode?
[06:20] <ubuntu_> There are 3 kernels and recovery options....
[06:20] <kilrae__> the first two (at least) cause crashes
[06:20] <ubuntu_> 2.6.17-11-386, 17-10, 15-27, 15-26
[06:20] <terrestre> kilrae__: pdf or word?
[06:20] <kilrae__> terrestre: word
[06:20] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: Try the second normal option
[06:21] <kane_> kilrae__: crashes mine.
[06:21] <ubuntu_> 17-10?
[06:21] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[06:21] <Yorokobi> kilrae__, and mine
[06:21] <kilrae__> ok, so it's probably an ubuntu bug
[06:21] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: OK, thx. I'll be back (as Arnie promises)
[06:21] <ubuntu__> how to enable option "most used recent application" in start menu in Kubuntu?
[06:21] <K-Ryan> =P
[06:21] <kilrae__> either that or it crashes everything but windows and suse
[06:22] <kilrae__> and windows and suse have the bugs
[06:22] <K-Ryan> ubuntu__: The KDE Menu lists everything, the 4 icons to the right of the KDE Menu can be configured to use the most recently used applications however.
[06:22] <terrestre> jaja same here
[06:23] <kilrae__> kane_, terrestre, Yorokobi: thanks
[06:23] <K-Ryan> Right click one of the icons then click "configure quicklauncher"
[06:23] <ubuntu__> Thx K-ryan but thats not enabled by default in Kubuntu like on most other KDE-centric distros
[06:24] <K-Ryan> It was enabled by default for me once I upgraded to Feisty
[06:25] <ubuntu__> i didnt try Kubuntu feisty yet, but will see :)
[06:25] <K-Ryan> Dapper or Edgy user?
[06:25] <ubuntu__> Edgy
[06:25] <K-Ryan> Upgrade =)
[06:25] <terrestre> jaja
[06:25] <ubuntu__> Ok :)
[06:25] <terrestre> maybe its better just intall feisty
[06:26] <chuen> K-Ryan: (I was _ubuntu with boot problem) Phew! that worked fine. Thanks
[06:26] <terrestre> :)
[06:26] <chuen> K-Ryan: But what do I need to do next?
[06:26] <K-Ryan> Yeah about that
[06:26] <andre> hello, I installed wine, but I don't see any option for it in the applications section, can someone help me?
[06:26] <chuen> K-Ryan: Can I see why it happened?
[06:26] <K-Ryan> andre: alt+f2 > winefile
[06:26] <andre> thanks
[06:26] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[06:27] <K-Ryan> chuen: I'm not sure so from here on out you're going to need someone else
[06:27] <chuen> OK.  Maybe if in remeove GDE (which *seemd* to cause the problem) ?
[06:27] <K-Ryan> Try that
[06:27] <chuen> OK. Thanks for saving my ass.
[06:27] <chuen> :)
[06:27] <K-Ryan> ;)
[06:27] <chuen> ttyl.
[06:28] <K-Ryan> Good luck
[06:28] <chuen> Thx.
[06:28] <terrestre> what is gde?
[06:28] <terrestre> gnome desktop?
[06:28] <K-Ryan> gnome desktop environment
[06:29] <K-Ryan> Ever wonder what K stands for in KDE?
[06:29] <ubuntu__> with metacity
[06:29] <ubuntu__> Kool
[06:29] <K-Ryan> lol
[06:29] <_4str1> K afka !
[06:29] <K-Ryan> "K Desktop Environment"
[06:29] <ubuntu__> Koll
[06:29] <ubuntu__> Kool
[06:29] <ubuntu__> Krap ? :)
[06:29] <K-Ryan> Krazy
[06:29] <terrestre> Kde Desktop Environment
[06:29] <terrestre> :P
[06:30] <K-Ryan> K Desktop Environment Desktop Environment?
[06:30] <hyper_ch> bon jour HymnToLife
[06:30] <hyper_ch> hiho
[06:30] <terrestre> like GNU
[06:30] <Jucato> it doesn't stand for anything
[06:30] <terrestre> Gnu Not Unix
[06:30] <K-Ryan> Obviously Jucato =P
[06:30] <ubuntu__> Gnome Not Unix
[06:30] <terrestre> no GNU means Gnu Not Unix
[06:30] <Jucato> it once, just once, stood for "Kool",but was immediately removed
[06:31] <_4str1> Jucato: you're right
[06:31] <K-Ryan> Haha
[06:31] <ubuntu__> No its,Gnome Not Unix
[06:31] <_4str1> Jucato: wikipedia powa :p
[06:31] <Yorokobi> GNU - GNU is Not Unix
[06:31] <Jucato> _4str1: memory powah
[06:31] <terrestre> i forgot the is
[06:31] <_4str1> :)
[06:31] <terrestre> jojo
[06:31] <ubuntu__> GNU as animal and Gnu Not Unix, little Stallman gee joke :)
[06:32] <LjL> kilrae__: the first one opens
[06:32] <terrestre> jaja yeah
[06:32] <terrestre> i have a doubt about the pronounce of that
[06:32] <terrestre> i dont a english speaker
[06:32] <terrestre> how its pronounce gnu?
[06:33] <K-Ryan> We know, because you say "jajaja" instead of "hahaha"
[06:33] <Yorokobi> g'new
[06:33] <Jucato> terrestre: guh-noo
[06:33] <ubuntu__> english speaker mostly cannot pronounce Linux right
[06:33] <K-Ryan> I thought it was just "new"
[06:33] <Jucato> er... not "new"
[06:33] <ubuntu__> G like in Good
[06:33] <kilrae__> LjL: doesn't work for me, are you using feisty?
[06:33] <Yorokobi> It is guh-noo and guh-nome
[06:33] <K-Ryan> No way
[06:33] <K-Ryan> It's definitely "nome"
[06:35] <Jucato> K-Ryan: it's guh-nome
[06:35] <LjL> kilrae: kubuntu feisty, yes, -updates and -security enabled
[06:35] <K-Ryan> Jucato: Why?
[06:35] <Jucato> K-Ryan: because they said so
[06:35] <K-Ryan> Jucato: If you say so...
[06:36] <Yorokobi> from gnu.org: GNU is a recursive acronym for GNU's Not Unix; it is pronounced guh-noo, approximately like canoe.
[06:36] <HymnToLife> hi hyper_ch ;)
[06:36] <hyper_ch> HymnToLife: Reasmey m'a dit que Brest est moche ;)
[06:37] <K-Ryan> What's up chuen, any luck?
[06:37] <terrestre> i dont know the sound of guh, but thanks
[06:37] <maloso> ?
[06:38] <K-Ryan> terrestre: Like the g in "jugar" except it's "uh" instead of "ar"
[06:38] <chuen> K-Ryan: One sec...
[06:39] <rothchild> lol so is it lyn ux or line ux ?
[06:39] <rothchild> ;-)
[06:39] <terrestre> lyn ux
[06:39] <K-Ryan> Probably line ux
[06:39] <Yorokobi> Lyn ux
[06:39] <K-Ryan> But I say lyn ux
[06:39] <HymnToLife> nope
[06:39] <HymnToLife> lynux
[06:39] <K-Ryan> Oh, so I was right
[06:39] <Yorokobi> According to Torvalds, its Leenux
[06:39] <terrestre> its lyn ux i heard that pronounce of linux :P
[06:40] <terrestre> leenux
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Well with my accent it's more like "Lynix"
[06:40] <terrestre> yeah
[06:40] <terrestre> linus,
[06:40] <terrestre> jaja
[06:40] <terrestre> sorry
[06:40] <SUPERANTE> ciao
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Peanuts?
[06:40] <terrestre> chau
[06:40] <chuen> K-Ryan: No joy... Plus a whole shedload of other apps installed along with the basic GDE :)
[06:40] <K-Ryan> chuen: Youch
[06:41] <K-Ryan> chuen: Try removing GDE then sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:41] <chuen> Actually, a few were there already and I use them but ...........
[06:41] <K-Ryan> That should get rid of all the other GDE stuff
[06:41] <K-Ryan> Actually no, it won't
[06:41] <chuen> Oh, OK.
[06:41] <K-Ryan> Sorry =P
[06:42] <chuen> No prob. At least I can et into Kubuntu OK.
[06:42] <K-Ryan> terrestre: Linus as in Linus from Peanuts? aka Charlie Brown
[06:42] <n0n4m3-> i have a question
[06:42] <K-Ryan> Sure thing n0n4m3
[06:42] <chuen> I had Gnome on my box before, but uninstalled it .
[06:42] <n0n4m3-> last night an update was ready to be installed i installed it and today when i want to load a torrent file in ktorrent or any other torrent client i get this message     http://shrani.si/files/posnetek22114m3.png
[06:42] <n0n4m3-> the update was someting
[06:42] <n0n4m3-> security
[06:43] <n0n4m3-> or someting can't remember
[06:43] <terrestre> jaja K-Ryan I suppoused, well i forget the word
[06:43] <chuen> K-Ryan: What I'll probably do is try on this Channel over the weekend and see if anyone has a clue :)
[06:43] <terrestre> chuen you are in the livecd now?
[06:43] <K-Ryan> chuen: Someone is bound to know so stick your head in from time to time
[06:43] <n0n4m3-> can anyone help me? please.
[06:43] <chuen> terrestre: No, HD boot.
[06:44] <K-Ryan> n0n4m3: Sometimes you have to wait around in here, but if someone knows how to help you they will.
[06:44] <chuen> K-Ryan: That's wht I figured - and usually a damn helful bunch too!
[06:44] <n0n4m3-> K-Ryan,  ok:/
[06:44] <dany_21> hello all! i have there a little problem with konqueror and mounting internal (and some external drives) since update to feisty
[06:44] <n0n4m3-> but it's really weird..
[06:44] <K-Ryan> n0n4m3: Does it do that with any other torrent files?
[06:44] <dany_21> So, does anybody know, how konqueror mounts drives, which appear in media:/ ? because, if i click on a unmounted drive, i get: "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" - but if i type "pmount /dev/sdb1" it just works... (xpost in kde)
[06:44] <chuen> OK - dinner time here in London
[06:44] <n0n4m3-> K-Ryan,  yea
[06:45] <chuen> ttyl and thanks again.
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> i try 2 different
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> albums
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> i mean
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> torrent files
[06:45] <K-Ryan> Have you tried a non musical torrent?
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> no
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> should i ?
[06:45] <K-Ryan> Try it just in case that has something to do with it.
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> ok
[06:45] <K-Ryan> We might as well rule it out if that's not it.
[06:45] <kane_> and use a torrent from a different site, as well.
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> it works
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> with an movie
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> torrent
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Bad torrent files then
[06:46] <kane_> sounds like those torrent files might just be corrupt.
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Somehow
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> well
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> ok..
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> I'll try a different
[06:46] <dr_willis> or they are fake-torrent files being released by the MPAA dogs! :0
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> torrent file then
[06:48] <matrix> how to install flash on kubuntu?
[06:48] <K-Ryan> !flash
[06:48] <dr_willis> !flash
[06:48] <ubotwo> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:48] <n0n4m3-> it work's
[06:48] <K-Ryan> beat you =)
[06:49] <dr_willis> You Flasher!
[06:49] <n0n4m3-> looks like it was corrupted
[06:49] <n0n4m3-> :)
[06:49] <dr_willis> I beat you! :)
[06:49] <K-Ryan> ubotu broke?
[06:49] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[06:49] <dr_willis> yeppers
[06:49] <matrix> thanks!!!!
[06:50] <K-Ryan> No problem
[06:50] <kane_> i dont understand why people are making such a large deal that the dell ubuntu boxes are not shipping with multimedia codecs...
[06:51] <dr_willis> kane_,  make a point back to them that legally they CANT.. and tell them to write the MPAA/RIAA/Congress
[06:51] <kane_> will, my point is always that windows doesnt come with those codecs either.
[06:51] <dr_willis> kane_,  i was just about to say that also. :)
[06:51] <kane_> so whats the issue? on both oses you have to install em.
[06:52] <dr_willis> windows can do it  automaticially isntall ing of codecs.. makes that spyware MUCH easier to get. :0
[06:52] <dr_willis> somthing  i tell every windows user to dissable.
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Why would we not be allowed to get the codecs?
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Isn't it just a file type?
[06:52] <dr_willis> one guy wondered why i said that.. - THEN he auto-downloaded/installed a windows-codec-virus :)
[06:52] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  legal issues are soo... interesting
[06:53] <dec_> loaded feisty fawn and now when I go to shut down it will not shut down all the way any ideas
[06:53] <kane_> K-Ryan: well, codecs should be licensed.
[06:53] <kane_> well many of them atleast.
[06:53] <dr_willis> From a legal point of view  - in america - im not allowed to play dvd's using that decess stuff.
[06:53] <kane_> its mainly an issue with the DVDs
[06:53] <terrestre> !es
[06:53] <ubotwo> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:53] <dr_willis> of course its only recently that the Gif standard got away from its legal issues.
[06:54] <kane_> but Fluendo may solve some of the codec legal issues.
[06:54] <The_Machine> how do i set up java for firefox plugin without Automatix?  (i removed it and removed Automatix)
[06:54] <K-Ryan> !java
[06:54] <ubotwo> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:54] <The_Machine> just download it?
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, doesn't say anything about the firefox plugin
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Can start there though
[06:54] <The_Machine> java is already installed
[06:54] <K-Ryan> dec_: I'm not sure, that's a strange problem
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Just not in Firefox eh?
[06:55] <K-Ryan> Odd
[06:55] <K-Ryan> Okay sorry to leave you guys but it's too nice out for me to be inside on my computer/.
[06:55] <dec_> yes it will unload and go to the kubuntu screen the progress meter will move down and then it will just sit there
[06:55] <Yorokobi> The_Machine, sun-java5-plugin
[06:55] <The_Machine> Thanks :)
[06:55] <terrestre> bye K-Ryan
[06:55] <K-Ryan> Good luck with your problems everyone, see ya'
[06:55] <terrestre> whats mean the K anyway
[06:55] <kane_> poor automatix the buntu punching bag.
[06:55] <terrestre> jajaj
[06:56] <dr_willis> automatix is becomming more and more useless with each ubuntu release
[06:57] <dr_willis> which is a good thing. :)
[06:57] <dec_> loaded feisty fawn and now when I go to shut down it will not shut down all the way any ideas
[06:57] <The_Machine> Yorokobi, do you not use java 6?
[06:57] <dr_willis> dec_,  this a laptop?
[06:57] <dec_> yes
[06:57] <Yorokobi> The_Machine, nope. I use some apps that are not v6 compatible
[06:58] <dr_willis> sounds like some  apci issue. did it just say 'shuttung down..' then never powered off?
[06:58] <dec_> a laptop
[06:58] <dec_> yes never powered off
[06:58] <n0n4m3-> guys
[06:58] <n0n4m3-> another problem
[06:58] <The_Machine> k :)
[06:59] <dec_> how do i check the acpi if that is the problem
[06:59] <dr_willis> dec_,  so it shuts down but dosent power off. Hmm.. Id say check the ubuntu laptop forums and google for that specific make/model laptop
[06:59] <dr_willis> hold down the power key for a few secs should force it to power off.
[07:00] <dec_> will that screw anything up holding down the power key
[07:00] <dr_willis> not if the system is allready 'shut down'
[07:01] <dr_willis> not somthing ya really want to do in the middle of editing a termpaper. :)
[07:01] <dec_> what forum could i go to for answers about compiz
[07:01] <dr_willis> actually on my laptop if i hit the power button - it goes into shutdown mode.
[07:01] <n0n4m3-> listen i really like Ktorrent but when i load it i get this message http://shrani.si/files/posnetek231152h.png 3 times... and when i load an torrent file which is NOT corrupt  i get the same msg  http://shrani.si/files/posnetek241152g.png
[07:02] <olivier_> I am stuck with windows in full screen mode on some of my desktops! How do you exit the full screen mode? Any key combination???
[07:02] <dr_willis> right click on the task-panel button on the taskbar should bring up a menu
[07:02] <dec_> what forum could i go to for answers about compiz
[07:02] <atidem> ciao
[07:02] <dany_21> olivier_: try alt+F3
[07:03] <dr_willis> proberly other ways also.
[07:03] <n0n4m3-> if anyone know's how to solve this problem please
[07:03] <n0n4m3-> tell me:)
[07:03] <Yorokobi> dec_, forum or IRC channel?
[07:03] <dec_> irc channel
[07:03] <Yorokobi> dec_, #ubuntu-effects is a place to start. There may even be a #compiz channel on freenode
[07:04] <dr_willis> n0n4m3-,  how are you sure the torrent is not currupted?
[07:04] <olivier_> Dany: thanx! There is no way to exit it faster?
[07:04] <n0n4m3-> i try to load it in
[07:04] <dr_willis> n0n4m3-,  try a different torrent client?
[07:04] <n0n4m3-> bittornado
[07:04] <n0n4m3-> worked fine
[07:04] <n0n4m3-> but i hate bittornado
[07:04] <dr_willis> could be a cr/lf issue.. odd..
[07:04] <n0n4m3-> i'm new to kubuntu
[07:04] <n0n4m3-> so
[07:04] <n0n4m3-> help me please.D
[07:04] <n0n4m3-> :D
[07:04] <dr_willis> i cant say that ive eer had that issue with ktorrent
[07:05] <dr_willis> check out the ktorrent forums perhaps. or if they got a channel.
[07:05] <dr_willis> since it 'seems' to be a bug in ktorrent
[07:05] <n0n4m3-> but this problems
[07:05] <n0n4m3-> started so 3 days ago
[07:05] <n0n4m3-> i tryed to remove ktorrent
[07:05] <n0n4m3-> and installed again
[07:05] <n0n4m3-> it's still the same :s
[07:06] <dr_willis> what did you 'remove' ?
[07:06] <n0n4m3-> ktorrent
[07:06] <dr_willis> to prove its a ktorrent setting issue. either move/rename the .kde dir. OR better yet.. try a new user.
[07:06] <dr_willis> removeing ktorrent from the system - will NOT NOT NOT.. remove the users ktorrent saved settings. :)
[07:06] <n0n4m3-> i don't know how to do that :D
[07:06] <dr_willis> make a new user. login as the new user.. try ktorrent
[07:07] <n0n4m3-> ok
[07:07] <dr_willis> do NOT remove your existing user :) in any case.
[07:07] <dr_willis> heh heh
[07:08] <n0n4m3-> dr_willis,
[07:09] <n0n4m3-> i won't:)
[07:15] <yuriy> hi, i'm trying to configure the firewall, and i ran lokkit and added the 3 rules i need, but iptables is not running ??
[07:17] <fdoving> yuriy: iptables only modifies the built in linux kernel firewall. the kernel does the firewalling. the rules are in memory.
[07:17] <Yorokobi> yuriy, does 'sudo iptables -L' return the rules you added?
[07:18] <ahmed>  guys ,, first time to use linux,, in the gnome desktop now i can find my windows ntfs partition , bas i am wondering where is ma linux partition also how will i know how much space i got left and so on ,, plz helpppppppp
[07:19] <yuriy> fdoving: oh, thanks. i was told it would be a running process
[07:19] <terrestre> the partitions are in /media/
[07:19] <jordo23> Minor Kubuntu Update today?
[07:19] <ahmed>  guys ,, first time to use linux,, in the gnome desktop now i can find my windows ntfs partition , bas i am wondering where is ma linux partition also how will i know how much space i got left and so on ,, plz helpppppppp
[07:19] <equipo4> hello
[07:19] <dr_willis> ahmed,  you may want to read a few linux starter guides. and get some fundamentals down.
[07:19] <ahmed> terretre, yea but where is the main linux partition
[07:20] <dr_willis> ahmed,  'df -h' shows drive space ussage.
[07:20] <equipo4> frot  you love  the
[07:20] <equipo4> are many ok tergfre
[07:20] <BudgetDedicated> Hi does anyone know a tool to make a recording of a browser session from firefox? I'd like to make some demo movies of our website to show the management console etc
[07:20] <dr_willis> ahmed,  the 'mount' command shows what filesystems are mounted where. (/media) or media:/)  normally shows them
[07:21] <dr_willis> BudgetDedicated,  check that firefox extension page? i think they may have such a thing
[07:21] <n0n4m3666> yo
[07:21] <n0n4m3666> dr_willis,
[07:21] <dr_willis> BudgetDedicated,  thers some desktop-recorder tools that can make a movie of a session.
[07:21] <dr_willis> n0n4m3-,  Hmm?
[07:21] <n0n4m3666> i am n0n4m3 from the newe user
[07:21] <n0n4m3666> anyway
[07:21] <n0n4m3666> ktorrent works
[07:21] <n0n4m3666> when i run it
[07:22] <n0n4m3666> no error
[07:22] <terrestre> dr_willis: thanks for the command, i didnt know it
[07:22] <dr_willis> !enter
[07:22] <ubotwo> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:22] <dr_willis> :)
[07:22] <n0n4m3666> but when i load the torrent file there comes the error
[07:22] <n0n4m3666> ups sorry
[07:22] <n0n4m3666> i tryed another torrent file it worked well
[07:22] <n0n4m3666> but in the other user why when i load the ktorrent comes so many errors ?
[07:22] <dr_willis> n0n4m3666,  so we are back to 'ktorrent dosent like a specific torrent file, that other torrent clients handle' ? both users have same problem?
[07:23] <n0n4m3666> well
[07:23] <n0n4m3666> yes
[07:23] <n0n4m3666> wait from this user
[07:23] <papero> ciaoo!
[07:23] <n0n4m3666> I'll try with bittornado
[07:23] <n0n4m3666> to load the torrent
[07:24] <dr_willis> ok./ now everyone is confused.
[07:24] <dr_willis> :)
[07:24] <n0n4m3666> look
[07:24] <n0n4m3666> now look
[07:25] <n0n4m3666> in the user "marko" when i run the Ktorrent there comes the error you saw in the screenshot in the user "test" there don't comes this error when i run it...
[07:26] <dr_willis> so ktorrent works correctly with the .torrent file in question under a NEW user?
[07:26] <n0n4m3666> yes
[07:26] <dr_willis> then that shows that its some how a ktorrent setting issue. remove the ktorrent settings from the other users .kde dir. (or if you have no kde setings worth saving move/remove the .kde dir)
[07:27] <n0n4m3666> well
[07:27] <n0n4m3666> i don't know how to do that xD
[07:27] <n0n4m3666> wait I'll change to the other user
[07:27] <dr_willis> time to learn some shell fundamentals :) or some linux basics.
[07:27] <dr_willis> kde apps keep thir settings in .kde  in the users home dir
[07:28] <n0n4m3-> yo back is what i am:D
[07:28] <dr_willis> ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent   is one place. and  .... ~/.kde/share/config/ktorrentrc is another setting file
[07:29] <n0n4m3-> ok
[07:29] <n0n4m3-> and what should i do ?
[07:29] <dr_willis> id say move/rename/delete those files/dirs ktorrent will remake them.
[07:29] <dr_willis> assuming you got nothing going on in ktorrent at the moment.
[07:29] <n0n4m3-> nop
[07:29] <n0n4m3-> ok
[07:29] <n0n4m3-> i should remove all the files in  ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorren and ~/.kde/share/config/ktorrentrc ?
[07:30] <n0n4m3-> brb
[07:30] <dr_willis> ~/.kde/share/config/ktorrentrc is a file
[07:30] <n0n4m3-> yes i see
[07:30] <n0n4m3-> look i must go smoke a cigaret..
[07:30] <n0n4m3-> brb
[07:36] <Rictoo> guys
[07:36] <Rictoo> a long time ago I set the bottom taskbar to have the windows allign horizontaly
[07:36] <Rictoo> but I want it like default - with one on top of the other
[07:36] <Rictoo> like groups of 2
[07:38] <n0n4m3-> back
[07:43] <n0n4m3-> yee
[07:43] <n0n4m3-> i fixed it:D
[07:43] <The_Machine> any good howtos for setting up vnc server on kubuntu?
[07:44] <n0n4m3-> !vnc
[07:44] <ubotwo> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:44] <The_Machine> heh, cool.
[07:45] <Rictoo> a long time ago I set the bottom taskbar to have the windows allign horizontaly
[07:45] <Rictoo> but I want it like default - with one on top of the other
[07:45] <Rictoo> like groups of 2
[07:50] <eeos> hi! I need to highlight some words in a pdf document. Is there a tool I can use?
[07:53] <The_Machine> eeos - what PDF reader are you using?
[07:54] <eeos> I have several, but mostly use kpdf
[07:55] <The_Machine> oh, try adobe acrobat reader
[07:55] <The_Machine> it does that
[07:55] <The_Machine> i don't know any other ones that do
[07:55] <eeos> The_Machine: thanks.
[07:56] <The_Machine> :)
[07:56] <The_Machine> isn't open source
[07:56] <The_Machine> but it does the job
[07:57] <tsdgeos> eeos: define "hightlight"
[07:57] <eeos> tsdgeos: well, anything that could highlight them.
[07:58] <tsdgeos> but what does highlight to you mean?
[07:58] <tsdgeos> highlight, save and send to someone else?
[07:58] <tsdgeos> or select to copy and then paste elsewhere?
[07:58] <eeos> no, highlight on te document, and save the highlightig.
[07:59] <tsdgeos> acrobat reader doesn't let you save anything afair
[07:59] <eeos> tsdgeos: ah :(
[08:00] <tsdgeos> you could try pdf editor
[08:00] <eeos> what is that?
[08:00] <tsdgeos> http://pdfedit.petricek.net/pdfedit.index_e
[08:00] <tsdgeos> but last time i tried it was quite unstable and difficult to use
[08:00] <andres__> IF I CREATE A FOLDER HOW CAN I CHANGE THE ACCESS PERMISSION?
[08:00] <kilrae> aha, i uninstalled openoffice and reinstalled it and now it works
[08:01] <tsdgeos> i'd first try with scribus
[08:01] <tsdgeos> it can export to pdf and highlight things
[08:01] <tsdgeos> not sure about importing from pdf though
[08:01] <eeos> tsdgeos: do not think so
[08:02] <kilrae> scribus doesn't open pdfs, or at least it didn't a few months ago
[08:04] <eeos> tsdgeos: yes did not when I tried
[08:06] <timmay> is there an active directory manager for kubu?
[08:06] <hyper_ch> jikes... ADS
[08:18] <The_Machine> ADS?
[08:18] <The_Machine> hmmm
[08:19] <Kite_DH> The_Machine: AIDS :)
[08:21] <The_Machine> AHH!
[08:21] <The_Machine> nooo.
[08:27] <The_Machine> hey guys
[08:27] <The_Machine> i just plugged in a new USB hdd
[08:28] <The_Machine> and i got a dialog that says "new device found - unmounted removable medium"
[08:28] <The_Machine> and says i can open new window, etc
[08:28] <The_Machine> but if i pick new window, nothing happens
[08:28] <The_Machine> where might i find this device in the filesystem?
[08:28] <The_Machine> it isn't in /media
[08:28] <The_Machine> but it's unmounted
[08:28] <The_Machine> so i probably wouldn't find it there anyway, right?
[08:32] <rothchild> I've got wireless working with knetwork manager sort of working with ndiswrapper on a very finicky acer laptop but it's really erratic what's the best way of tailing what it is up to?
[08:36] <llp78> looking for some type of linux software so I can download pics and tunes from my phone - any ideas ? been loking about and cant find anything ?
[08:37] <llp78> already tried to install the PC suite via wine and thats a no go :(
[08:37] <rothchild> llp78 you can either do it with bluetooth or you should just be able to plug your phone in a usb socket
[08:37] <Etokura> Yeah?
[08:37] <rothchild> that's how I do it with my sony erricson
[08:37] <llp78> rothchild i plug the phone in and it reboots my phone
[08:37] <llp78> I have a sony ericsson
[08:37] <llp78> which model
[08:38] <rothchild> I've tried k750 800 and 810 they all work fine
[08:38] <llp78> I have the W850I
[08:38] <llp78> do i need to do anything - install additional drivers etc
[08:38] <rothchild> is that the big one with the 3mpix camera?
[08:38] <llp78> nope
[08:39] <llp78> rothchild http://www.mad4mobilephones.com/sony-ericsson-w850i/
[08:39] <rothchild> lol sorry mine is an 850 too (just checked)
[08:39] <llp78> ok can you talk me through it ?
[08:40] <rothchild> I just plug it in on usb and the phone asks if it should be in phone mode or transfer mode
[08:40] <AutoMatriX> hi folks
[08:41] <llp78> rothchild this is the very 1st time its worked and i have tried  tens of times
[08:41] <Eyeless> llp78: my w850 reboots aswell, but it boots into usb-mode, then it reboots again when i disconnect it
[08:41] <llp78> Eyeless thanks guys
[08:41] <rothchild> hit transfer mode and kde pops a window saying there's a new device (well 2 infact there's the phone memory and the memory stick in there) open the memory stick in a new window
[08:41] <llp78> its working
[08:41] <rothchild> woot!
[08:41] <rothchild> shame the camera sux I want my 750 back
[08:42] <Eyeless> rothchild: well its hard to beat the size, and the mp3 player works really well for me
[08:43] <llp78> and me
[08:43] <Eyeless> i dont need my ipod anymor which is great
[08:43] <llp78> :)
[08:44] <rothchild> !ndiswrapper
[08:44] <ubotwo> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:47] <rothchild> !knetworkmanager
[08:47] <ubotwo> knetworkmanager - User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[08:49] <llp78> Im using konqueror as my type of windows explorer - but i am unable to delete files using this browser - as in files located under .wine - whats the work around here?
[08:50] <ludu__> do any of you guys know why the heck valknut won't download a thing??
[08:50] <nix> Hello everybody..
[08:51] <drkns> hello
[08:51] <salistrari> Ciao a tutti
[08:51] <drkns> i am trying to run this command but i get this error
[08:52] <drkns> sudo echo "ut2004.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[08:52] <drkns> bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Permission denied
[08:52] <drkns> even though i put sudo in the beginning i do not get any passwd
[08:52] <drkns> line to put my pass
[08:53] <mattsqz> im trying to flash a new image to my nokia770 but for some reason konqueror downloads files all weird? i dunno.
[08:53] <mattsqz> having the same problem with the bzip2 for kde
[08:53] <drkns> my problem is i have installed Unreal Tournament 2004 it runs but no sound
[08:53] <mattsqz> alsa maybe?
[08:53] <drkns> alsa??
[08:53] <nix> I'd like to download the Kubutu 7.04 DVD. Does anyone know if its a live disk or an alternate installer?
[08:55] <HymnToLife> nix, IIRC, it has both
[08:56] <nix> oh.. k
[08:56] <nix> thanks
[08:56] <mattsqz> theres a dvd? i thought it was all cd
[08:57] <llp78> im trying to del a directory with konqueror - but as its owned by root, i get permission denied! - i can del in the terminal no problems using sudo - but i want to do it via konqueror
[08:58] <llp78> has to be possible - otherwise its a crap explorer?
[09:00] <Etokura> Open konqueror with root permissions
[09:00] <Etokura> kdesu konqueror
[09:00] <llp78> kdesu ?
[09:01] <lucky_lucas> run kdesu konqueror in console
[09:01] <esben_> llp78: I don't think there is a good solution at this time. As suggested while I wrote this, you can run the entire konq under root, but that is hardly elegant.
[09:01] <lucky_lucas> or type alt+f2
[09:01] <lucky_lucas> and then kdesu konqueror
[09:03] <TheGateKeeper_> or Run Command...  then kdesu konqueror :-)
[09:03] <llp78> ok thanks all for the help - i thought it was just a simple config tweak which when trying to del/rename a file with owner root - a password box would popup or something
[09:04] <esben_> llp78: If it is any consolation, it is a long standing bug with 500+ votes: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5522
[09:04] <esben_> From version 1.91 :o)
[09:04] <llp78> esben_ thanks thats gonna be 501 if i can add my vote
[09:04] <esben_> llp78: Anyone can vote. You have to create an account, first
[09:05] <llp78> well it for the cause - and It would be soo much better
[09:10] <llp78> I have just added the maximum of 20 votes for that bug!! :)
[09:11] <llp78> OMG!!! I just noticed the bug was open'd in 2000 - 7 years and nada
[09:12] <esben_> llp78: A prime oportunity to get involved in the wonderful world of software development :p
[09:12] <neverblue> lmao
[09:13] <llp78> esben_ Lol - I wouldnt have a clue where to start mate and if its taken 7 years, there must be a real issue going on!
[09:14] <esben_> llp78: If you can write C++, just ask over at kdedev. They are happy to take anyone serious onboard. As to why, because very few devs uses konq for deleting (but rather for viewing stuff)
[09:15] <esben_> llp78: This is currently the most hated bug : http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41514 -O)
[09:16] <bky> i have a login problem. last night i ran "init 1" trying to do a fast "restart", but it hung. i restarted the computer and i couldn't login to my account
[09:17] <bky> i tought i had fixed it, but now it seems i can only get my KDE working right if i run startx from the console
[09:17] <llp78> esben_ C++ ??? i go as far as PHP and mysql - thats it my brain cant take it - lol
[09:17] <BenWhitey>  hello
[09:18] <bky> if i login from the login screen it comes up very broken; theres no bottom bar, the background is the default, and there is only one window, a terminal. i started other windows but none of them have borders
[09:18] <bky> everything is fine, though, if i run startx
[09:19] <bky> i tried deleting ~/.kde but it didn't help
[09:21] <bky> any ideas?
[09:30] <The_Machine> how to mount "unmounted removable medium"? :)
[09:30] <The_Machine> (external hdd that i just plugged in that isn't mountng automatically)
[09:30] <esben_> The_Machine: Try rightclicking and select mount
[09:31] <rothchild> there;s a bug with usb hard drives
[09:31] <esben_> bky: It is most like kdm config that has screwed up.  But I can't recall where that is hidden
[09:31] <The_Machine> this is just a popup dialog box
[09:31] <The_Machine> i can't right click anything
[09:31] <The_Machine> i don't even know where i would look for it...
[09:32] <bky> what's odd is that it works fine for startx. if it was the kde config, wouldn't it apply to that, too?
[09:32] <The_Machine> "A new type of medium has been detected"
[09:32] <The_Machine> is the dialog, if you're familiar with it
[09:33] <rothchild> The_Machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/102097
[09:33] <esben_> bky: Not kde, kdm... the KDE version of xdm, which lives sort of it's own life. Try this "apt-get remove --purve kdm && apt-get install kdm" It's a bit risky, but since it is broken anyway..
[09:33] <rothchild> have a look in /dev to make sure it been picked up and work out what it's been called
[09:33] <rothchild> then try pmount-hal /dev/sdb
[09:33] <aldin_> how can i disable all ethX during boot is there some argument to pass to kernel line
[09:34] <rothchild> but replace sdb with the nomenclature of your drive
[09:34] <bky> ok running that...
[09:34] <weedar> !ntfs
[09:34] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:34] <bky> Command line option --purve is not understood
[09:34] <weedar> !ntfs-3g
[09:34] <ubotwo> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:37] <llp78> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:37] <llp78> what do I need to install
[09:39] <llp78> gcc?
[09:39] <esben_> llp78: some version of gcc
[09:39] <llp78> ty
[09:40] <The_Machine> heh@nomenclatre
[09:40] <The_Machine> asain american, please.
[09:40] <The_Machine> sorry, fingers.  (*doh*)
[09:40] <The_Machine> ;P
[09:41] <llp78> esben_ i have version 4.1 installed and still getting that error ?
[09:42] <rothchild> The_Machine sorry 'name'
[09:42] <The_Machine> no, i liked it
[09:43] <The_Machine> reminded me of a part of The Big Lebowski
[09:43] <The_Machine> i got a weird error
[09:43] <rothchild> wierd?
[09:43] <rothchild> how so?
[09:44] <sonoman> jmmm y espaol veo como grave la cosa
[09:45] <The_Machine> pastebin sucks today
[09:45] <The_Machine> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=79445
[09:45] <The_Machine> the error
[09:45] <The_Machine> you think the solution would be obvious..
[09:47] <rothchild> hmm
[09:47] <rothchild> !ntfsfix
[09:47] <The_Machine> ntfsfix "worked" (we'll see)
[09:47] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:47] <The_Machine> yeah
[09:47] <The_Machine> !ntfsprogs
[09:47] <ubotwo> ntfsprogs - tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[09:47] <The_Machine> :)
[09:48] <rothchild> The_Machine cool so are you up and running now?
[09:49] <The_Machine> actually, no
[09:49] <The_Machine> doh
[09:50] <brandon> does anyone here have beryl?
[09:50] <The_Machine> i do brandon
[09:50] <The_Machine> but #beryl is probably the better channel
[09:50] <The_Machine> heh
[09:51] <The_Machine> ;)
[09:51] <rothchild> ditto
[09:51] <brandon> ok i installed mine and when i go into it the screen goes blank what is up?
[09:51] <The_Machine> rothchild, http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=79449
[09:51] <The_Machine> check that out
[09:51] <The_Machine> any suggestions?
[09:52] <The_Machine> ;)
[09:52] <rothchild> did you try the suggested: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/BUSLINK -o force
[09:53] <rothchild> brandon what graphics card are you on?
[09:53] <the-erm> Anyone here know if it's possible to make a local repository?  To be more specific a "cache" of everything you've downloaded for lan?
[09:53] <The_Machine> WARNING: Dirty volume mount was forced by the 'force' mount option.
[09:53] <The_Machine> fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /media/BUSLINK: No such file or directory
[09:53] <The_Machine> FUSE mount point creation failed
[09:53] <The_Machine> Unmounting /dev/sdc1 (BUSLINK)
[09:53] <The_Machine> is what i get
[09:53] <The_Machine> :/
[09:54] <rothchild> Sorry I think you're gonna need someone cleverer than me!
[09:55] <KevinAlaska> well I assure you its NOT me.. :)  I can't possibly be more clever then anyone. :(
[09:55] <rothchild> perhaps try swapping /media/buslink for a folder you definitely have permissions for like something in your home folder?
[09:56] <rothchild> it's failing cos you don't have a /BUSLINK folder (I think)
[09:56] <The_Machine> oh!
[09:56] <The_Machine> durrr
[09:56] <The_Machine> good idea :)
[09:56] <esben_> llp78: Then you probably have some option set that prevents it from working. Check the config.log file
[09:56] <KevinAlaska> /shrug
[09:57] <The_Machine> yeah!
[09:57] <The_Machine> worked :)
[09:57] <rothchild> KevinAlaska it's all good jus keep taking the tablets ;-)
[09:57] <rothchild> wooooo!
[09:58] <KevinAlaska> heh  ..  I would take more of those tablets.. seems I lost or missplaced them... but really I am just blaming them on thieft.
[10:01] <bky> kdm broke other things...
[10:01] <KevinAlaska> hay... Anyone know how to delete all files in a group of folders and subfolders in a single command or two.  I have a BUNCH of photos thta were imported in numerous backups by using F-Stop and it places all photos with duplicate names in the folders but renames them at the end of the name with -1.jpg, -2.jpg etc etc etc.  Anyone now have to do this so I don't have to manually sort through these files myself.
[10:02] <bky> i fixed it by installing kubuntu-desktop again but it didn't fix my login problems
[10:02] <KevinAlaska> folder path is /home/myname/Photos/
[10:02] <AWOSLappy> KevinAlaska:  rm /home/myname/Photos/*-1.jpg
[10:02] <AWOSLappy> ?
[10:02] <KevinAlaska> will that search all the subfolders too?
[10:02] <bky> add a -R
[10:03] <KevinAlaska> really.. nifty... sounds too easy. :) thanks I will try it.  so its "rm /home/myname/Photos/*-1.jpg -R"
[10:04] <llp78> rm -r
[10:04] <KevinAlaska> oh.. got it.. thanks
[10:04] <AWOSLappy> lip78: nope, capital R
[10:05] <llp78> AWOSLappy from the man pages ---
[10:05] <llp78> -r, -R, --recursive
[10:05] <llp78>               remove directories and their contents recursively
[10:05] <llp78> so -r -R what ever its the same thing
[10:06] <nahemoth> hey I have a problem about my network... could you help me about it?
[10:06] <KevinAlaska> hummm.. gives a "No such file of directory" error
[10:07] <brandon> brandon what graphics card are you on? ati
[10:07] <llp78> KevinAlaska ok cd to the directory and then run rm -r on the file you wanna remove
[10:07] <KevinAlaska> maybe because the actual files are not until the last folders /photos/(year)/(month)/(day)/(photos)
[10:07] <bky> you have to put your username where "myname is"
[10:07] <KevinAlaska> correct
[10:08] <brandon> rothchild
[10:08] <brandon> im on ati express 200
[10:08] <bky> i don't have anything to test it on... maybe try "rm -r *-1.jpg" from that folder
[10:08] <rothchild> !beryl
[10:08] <brandon> thas my motherboard
[10:08] <ubotwo> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:08] <brandon> what should i do?
[10:09] <brandon> what should i do?
[10:09] <rothchild> brandon have you looked at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341149
[10:09] <brandon> probably not
[10:09] <brandon> hold on
[10:10] <rothchild> second thoughts scrap that it looks pretty out of date
[10:10] <brandon> where do u put the code?
[10:10] <defcon_> yo id like to keep /home/defcon private so I chmod 600  /home/defcon and kde couldnt load xchat
[10:12] <brandon> it says command not found whenever i hook it up?
[10:12] <AWOSLappy> Is there a KDE equivalent to ndisgtk?
[10:12] <brandon> in thed terminal program
[10:12] <llp78> on which command ?
[10:13] <brandon> the one for which i install beryl with my ati express 200
[10:13] <agn0stic> apt-get install beryl?
[10:13] <llp78> what does "glxinfo | grep direct" output ?
[10:15] <defcon_> yo id like to keep /home/defcon private so I chmod 600  /home/defcon and kde couldnt load xchat, does kde need permission if so how do I do that
[10:16] <Kr4t05> So, all these updates I'm getting today, that's the new KDE release?
[10:17] <agn0stic> defcon: is there a .xchat directory in /home/defcon? I assume so. Try changing that (the .xchat directory) to 644
[10:18] <defcon_> agn0stic, yea there is
[10:18] <defcon_> what does 644 do
[10:18] <agn0stic> defcon: if kde needs to read from directories under your home, and they're all 600 it won't be able to do so (i assume). ries un
[10:19] <agn0stic> defcon: allows read for everyone, i think
[10:19] <agn0stic> defcon: why would you mod your home so you can't execute stuff in it anyhow?
[10:20] <agn0stic> defcon: http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml
[10:21] <agn0stic> defcon: also, I would expect other apps with .appname directories under your home not to work either, assuming your problem is permissions here (and I expect it is)
[10:21] <llp78> if xchat needs to be launched it has to be 744
[10:21] <brandon> rothchild u ther>
[10:21] <llp78> for the execute
[10:22] <agn0stic> true that.
[10:22] <brandon> how do u enable rendering?
[10:22] <massimo> ciao a tutti
[10:22] <agn0stic> i would assume that xchats binary was in another directory, and it just needs to read configuration and stuff
[10:22] <massimo> !list
[10:22] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:22] <llp78> needs to be launched
[10:24] <makuseru> hi, my amarok suddenly stopped playing mp3's so i uninstalled and reinstalled and it still wont play them, when i try to add them to the playlist it just says "Some Media Could Not Be Added (not playable) and it asks me to install mp3 support, but i alrady have, and when i click it it does nothing, how can i get it to play mo3s again?
[10:25] <rothchild> yo
[10:25] <rothchild> brandon how you getting on?
[10:26] <rothchild> rendering?
[10:26] <brandon> yea
[10:26] <Graham> Does anyone know how to change the colour the the text background in Kopete? It just won't change to white!
[10:27] <Graham> Even when I delete Kopete settings.
[10:27] <brandon> 1-First you need to have direct rendering Enable. Type the following command in the terminal
[10:27] <brandon> it says that
[10:27] <llp78> to get rendering Download the Attached script to install ATI XPRESS 200 Drivers, xorg-driver and fglrx to enable direct rendering
[10:27] <agn0stic> makeuseru: try apt-get install libmad0 to make sure you have mp3 support. If that says it's already installed, check what output engine amarok is using
[10:27] <llp78> thats what it say's on the link
[10:29] <rothchild> ok
[10:29] <brandon> whee do u find those attached scripts?
[10:29] <makuseru> !w32codecs
[10:29] <brandon> where?/
[10:29] <ubotwo> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[10:29] <RawSewage> how do I fix this line:   DISPLAY=:0.0 dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface setWallpaper ~/Images/$filename 6          so that it only changes the active desktop's wallpaper, instead of all of the desktops
[10:29] <rothchild> it's at the bottom of the post
[10:30] <makuseru> !Codecs
[10:30] <rothchild> but be carefull because that guide is for edgy, are you using edgy?
[10:30] <ubotwo> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:30] <brandon> no
[10:31] <BluesKaj> llp78, try this tutorial , it worked for my setup ati xpress200 onboard
[10:31] <BluesKaj> http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[10:31] <llp78> apt-get should of resolved all these problems for you -
[10:32] <brandon> ???
[10:32] <llp78> I dont have any problems just trying to help  beryl works good here
[10:32] <agn0stic> rawsewage: dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface  enter that in the command line and look at it
[10:32] <ShadyTree> agn0stic, ty
[10:33] <BluesKaj> ok, for whom it may concern then  ..how top get DRI on ati http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[10:33] <agn0stic> shadytree: np
[10:33] <llp78> BluesKaj its brandon having the problems
[10:34] <nahemoth> I can't activate the network connection, can you give me a hand?
[10:34] <BluesKaj> yeah, i gathered that after I posted , llp78
[10:34] <llp78> BluesKaj :-)
[10:34] <rothchild> brandon this is looking pretty complicated , i've been lucky so far cos beryl's just worked for me but we can get you through it!
[10:36] <BluesKaj> anyway , that tutorial works for those who want google earth etc , llp78 :)
[10:36] <ShadyTree> agn0stic, I couldnt figure it out.  did KDE change.  my script used to only change the active desktop.  now it's changing all of them
[10:37] <ShadyTree> DISPLAY=:0.0 dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface setWallpaper ~/Images/$filename 6
[10:37] <llp78> BluesKaj google earth - is that not avail from just google.com and select maps - then select satalites ?
[10:37] <agn0stic> shadytree: I don't really know. It looks like you can feed an int as the first argument for the desktop number
[10:38] <brandon> rothchild im using feisty
[10:38] <BluesKaj> llp78, dunno never tried that approach to google earth
[10:38] <ShadyTree> agn0stic, I want it to change the active desktop, whatever that happens to be at the time.  not a specific one
[10:38] <agn0stic> shadytree: i'm not sure how to detect the current desktop, but try DISPLAY=:0.0 dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface 1 ~/images$filename 6
[10:38] <llp78> BluesKaj i dont see a difference between the two
[10:38] <ShadyTree> agn0stic, ok
[10:38] <rothchild> brb dinner's up
[10:38] <agn0stic> shadytree: and see if that changes just one desktops
[10:39] <agn0stic> shadytree: the question of course, is how to discover which desktop is active
[10:39] <jose__> hol
[10:39] <jose__> me podeis ayudar?
[10:39] <tsdgeos> !es
[10:39] <ubotwo> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:39] <ShadyTree> agn0stic, the thing is, it used to work as is.  Im wondering if theres some CP setting .  oh well.
[10:40] <agn0stic> shadytree: I'm not familiar enough with what's going on with kde to know off the top of my head. I'm sure there's a way though. There should be a site that lists recent changes, at the very least
[10:41] <agn0stic> shadytree: or the guys in #kde might know more
[10:41] <ShadyTree> agn0stic, ok thx
[10:45] <BluesKaj> llp78, the google earth app uses layered video of the earth to take you around the globe in a smooth manner ...it's quite different fom google maps
[10:47] <bjoldfield> can someone offer a noob some help?
[10:47] <fribuntu> Hi all
[10:47] <BluesKaj> bjoldfield, just ask your question
[10:47] <fribuntu> can someone tell me the current official version of KDE on Kubuntu 7.04 (feisty)?
[10:47] <BluesKaj> 3.5.7
[10:48] <brandon> 3.5.7
[10:48] <nahemoth> what is "eth0: avah" ?
[10:48] <brandon> urnintrnet
[10:48] <bjoldfield> I just let aptget make some automatic updates, and now X pukes when it starts
[10:48] <brandon> your internet
[10:48] <BluesKaj> describe 'pukes"
[10:48] <bjoldfield> I'm getting errors about not being about to locate /dev/input/wacom, though I don't even have a wacom tablet (what I assume it's looking for), and don't have drivers for it installed
[10:49] <bjoldfield> or, rather, I did not install any
[10:49] <bjoldfield> i'm just now looking through the log file
[10:50] <BluesKaj> what automatic updates and what pkg manager did you use , bjoldfield ?
[10:51] <bjoldfield> That's a very good question.  It's the default package manager in Ubuntu, I believe aptget, but I am not certain
[10:51] <BluesKaj> ok, as long as it wasn't automatix
[10:51] <BluesKaj> you may have to go into the terminal to reset the Xorg file
[10:52] <mdr> Couple of noob questions.
[10:52] <bjoldfield> Which would display possible updates in the system tray?
[10:52] <mdr> If I copy all  the files (including the project file) from Qt's example dir and build the project myself by doing qmake and make.  The exe is about 12,000 bytes larger than Qt's.  What's different?
[10:52] <The_Machine> when playing wmv files the sound is off from the video in both kaffiene and mplayer - little help?
[10:52] <BluesKaj> bjoldfield,  in the terminal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <mdr> wrong channel :-)
[10:54] <mdr> so sorry
[10:55] <BluesKaj> noob mdr ?.....doesn't look like a noob question to me
[10:55] <bjoldfield> sounds good, I'll give it a try, thanks
[10:55] <The_Machine> heh
[10:56] <dogatemycomputer> bjoldfield: have you checked /etc/X11/ and make sure there isn't a backup xorg.conf someplace?  (if I missed part of the convo.. sorry.. just thought I would throw that out there)
[10:56] <fribuntu> I am experiencing heavy graphics bugs when starting up fontforge under Kubuntu. Is anyone else having probelms? If yes, I'd like to open a launchpad bugreport.
[10:57] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: have you searched launchpad to see if someone else is experiencing the same issues?
[10:58] <fribuntu> _StefanS_: I have and no, I have not found any similar problems reproted by others. But fontforge is a very "niche" type packae, I believe.
[10:59] <ubuntu_> sqlut
[10:59] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: I'll try it now
[10:59] <bjoldfield> yeah, I did have some backups, but they didn't work
[10:59] <bjoldfield> sorry, looking at another monitor
[11:00] <suimui> huhu
[11:01] <fribuntu> _StefanS_: Since my last upgrade, when I start fontforge and open a new font project, I cannot edit any glyphs. The graphics start to screw up and show wrong bitmaps in the windows. I cannot even close the window, because the dialogue does not show to press "OK". I have to "kill" it from a console.
[11:01] <bjoldfield> I tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to no avail...
[11:01] <nahemoth> what should I do to run mp3 files in Amarok?
[11:01] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: got an example project?
[11:01] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: and what gfx driver are you using?
[11:02] <fribuntu> _StefanS_: Just try to open a new font project and double click on any glyph for editing to reproduce it.
[11:02] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: oka
[11:02] <fribuntu> _StefanS_: I am using the NVidia beta driver for my 8500GT GPU, however, I have also experienced this when using vanilla "nv" driver and "vesa" driver.
[11:03] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: is it when you start drawing it screws up?
[11:03] <fribuntu> _StefanS_: When you chose any function from the drwaing tool menu. In fact, that menu is already showing some black fields instead of the tool bitmaps.
[11:04] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: mine seems just fine, i'm using fglrx
[11:04] <fribuntu> _StefanS_: You should see it clearly once you start to paint anything in the edit box.
[11:04] <fribuntu> _StefanS_: Is there anywhere I can paste a screenshot without having to register first? Something like pastbin for screenshots?
[11:05] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: donno actually, here's my screen: http://enhance-it.dk/test.png
[11:06] <fribuntu> _StefanS_: Yeah, looks fine. Can you switch between back and fore layer once? That
[11:06] <bjoldfield> okay... I've removed the wacom references in xorg.conf.  Now the final line before X kicks me back to the prompt is: "waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing
[11:06] <fribuntu> s when it started first for me.
[11:09] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: lemme check
[11:10] <bjoldfield> any more ideas?
[11:10] <_StefanS_> fribuntu: seems to work fine
[11:11] <pisq> installed 7.o4 Kubuntu just now.
[11:11] <cWolfe> is xchat compiled with ipv6 enabled? how would i find out?
[11:12] <pisq> is there a way to install screen savers?
[11:12] <_StefanS_> cWolfe: you could download the source
[11:12] <_StefanS_> pisq: only if you know the package names I would suspect
[11:12] <pisq> ok, I don't.
[11:12] <_StefanS_> pisq: sudo apt-cache search screensaver
[11:13] <_StefanS_> pisq: or similar
[11:13] <pisq> thanks.
[11:13] <_StefanS_> cWolfe: sudo apt-get source xchat
[11:13] <cWolfe> noob question, _StefanS_  the source fromxchat.org?
[11:13] <cWolfe> oh
[11:13] <cWolfe> okay, thanks _StefanS_
[11:13] <sercik> hi! when i do apt-get update i receive: unknown error executing gpgv
[11:13] <_StefanS_> cWolfe: np
[11:14] <_StefanS_> sercik: I would do sudo apt-get install gpgv --reinstall
[11:14] <otero> linux is hard I cant run anything!
[11:14] <otero> ;)
[11:14] <sercik> i try
[11:14] <eljefe> BenWhitey: did you ever get your ath0 wifi working since last night?
[11:15] <_StefanS_> sercik: seems like the package is broken, have you got anymore errors?
[11:17] <bjoldfield> could improperly loaded fonts keep X from running?
[11:17] <brandon> how do u download aim
[11:17] <Graham> Hey I'm having a problem with Wine, for some reason none of my Wine apps have an internet connection, any idea what might cause it? I'm on Feisty.
[11:18] <eljefe> brandon: aim, the chat client?  its a windows program, but look into Gaim (now named Pidgin)
[11:18] <brandon> im on feisty fawn by the way
[11:18] <brandon> yea the chat client'
[11:18] <BluesKaj> !kopete
[11:18] <ubotwo> kopete - instant messenger for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[11:19] <eljefe> brandon: start the program Add/Remove Programs and look for Gaim or Kopete
[11:19] <eljefe> but i bet Kopete is installed already in your Internet menu
[11:19] <brandon> yea it is in my internet
[11:19] <BluesKaj> yup, it should be in the k-menu
[11:19] <eljefe> start that and there will be a wizzard to set your connection up
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Graham, what apps ?
[11:20] <eljefe> sorry, to set up the connection
[11:20] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: whats the issue with your x?
[11:21] <bjoldfield> I'm getting errors loading font paths at start up
[11:21] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: so it wont start?
[11:21] <bjoldfield> nope
[11:21] <Graham> BluesKaj: Steam, worms 2
[11:21] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: have you tried to do a dpkg-reconfigure on the xserver-xorg?
[11:22] <bjoldfield> errors in ../fonts/misc , ../fonts/cyrillic, and ../fonts/Type1
[11:22] <bjoldfield> which are all there
[11:22] <bjoldfield> I have to no avail
[11:22] <Graham> I'm certain it's a wine problem.
[11:22] <felomen> je recherche un salon en francais ,merci de vos repons
[11:22] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[11:22] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:22] <BluesKaj> 'scuse my ignorance Graham...games ?
[11:23] <eljefe> brandon: figure it out?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> !fr | felomen
[11:23] <ubotwo> felomen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:23] <Graham> BluesKaj: Yes, games.
[11:23] <eljefe> !fr |felomen
[11:23] <ubotwo> elomen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:23] <BluesKaj> hmm, never tried any in wine
[11:25] <bjoldfield> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22488/
[11:26] <timmay> anyone know of blackberry desktop manager for kubuntu?
[11:26] <eljefe> brandon: figure it out?
[11:26] <eljefe> !blackberry
[11:26] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:26] <eljefe> well not me
[11:26] <BluesKaj> !RIM
[11:27] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: I pasted it up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22488/
[11:27] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: 2secs
[11:27] <bjoldfield> awesome, that's alot
[11:27] <esben_> timmay: There was something in the comments to http://dot.kde.org/1179831426/
[11:28] <eljefe> !KDE 3.5.7 in Kubuntu
[11:28] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:28] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log give you?
[11:28] <eljefe> anyone know when 3.5.7 is in Kubuntu?
[11:28] <_StefanS_> eljefe: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[11:28] <bjoldfield> I'll past that up too
[11:28] <_StefanS_> eljefe: has been since 23/05
[11:29] <eljefe> i don't want thos packages, i want the real ones
[11:29] <_StefanS_> eljefe: well, define real?
[11:29] <_StefanS_> eljefe: feisty is not going to have official kde 3.5.7
[11:29] <eljefe> from the Ubuntu sources in Adept; J Riddell's packages always screw up my system after a few weeks
[11:30] <eljefe> _StefanS_: lame, but thanks for the info
[11:30] <_StefanS_> eljefe: not considering stability
[11:30] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: shoot, I pasted over the xorg.conf.  it's at the same address: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22489/
[11:30] <eljefe> _StefanS_: not considering stability how?
[11:31] <_StefanS_> eljefe: Well, check this one out https://wiki.kubuntu.org/StableReleaseUpdates
[11:32] <esben_> Kubuntu 7.11 (?) might have KDE 3.5.7, unless KDE 4 is ready or 3.5.8 is release first, I suppose
[11:32] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: Just noticed something weird... font paths are set correctly in xorg.conf, but two are being referenced in the wrong place ( misc and Type1) in the errors at the end of the log file
[11:32] <bjoldfield> if that makes sense
[11:33] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: I have those errors too, and mine works fine
[11:33] <bjoldfield> huh...
[11:33] <bjoldfield> damnit
[11:33] <kane_> kde4 will not be out in time for kubuntu 7.10, i dont think.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> 7.10 will most likely have either 3.5.7 or .8 as final
[11:34] <gnomefreak> kde4 releases like 2 weeks-4 weeks after release of 7.10
[11:34] <gnomefreak> iirc
[11:34] <kane_> yeah if they keep the schedule
[11:34] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: does your CRT sync at all when starting the x server?
[11:34] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: turn black or something
[11:35] <kane_> even if its early i dont think it would make into kubuntu stable release.
[11:35] <dogatemycomputer> doesn't his xorg.conf refresh rates look a big .. wider than they should be?
[11:35] <kane_> protty big change.
[11:35] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: yeah, it goes black, I get the nVidia splash screen, then i'm kicked back to the prompt
[11:35] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: try commenting out those HorizSync, and VertRefresh
[11:35] <_StefanS_> dogatemycomputer: just my point also ;)
[11:36] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: the nvidia should figure that out for itself
[11:36] <dogatemycomputer> _StefanS_: what happens if he comments them out?  does it have some narrower default ranges that it uses?
[11:36] <_StefanS_> dogatemycomputer: yes probably, I never use hardcoded values for any monitor
[11:36] <_StefanS_> dogatemycomputer: the drivers usually probe correct
[11:37] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: nope... didn't work
[11:37] <BluesKaj> the same lines aren't commented out on my xorg file ...don't thinkuncommenting them will cause a problem
[11:37] <dogatemycomputer> wow.. that was quick..  you commented them out and rebooted that quickly?
[11:37] <_StefanS_> dogatemycomputer: he seems fast, maybe he has another computer ? :)
[11:37] <bjoldfield> hehe
[11:38] <bjoldfield> my good ol' PowerBook G4 and my ubuntu box
[11:38] <dogatemycomputer> _StefanS_: lol.. I assumed that.. but still.. even my Core 2 Duo takes longer than that :P
[11:38] <bjoldfield> was a media center... but distracted my from my studies, now a desktop
[11:38] <BluesKaj> bjoldfield, I still think a reconfigure might do the trick
[11:39] <bjoldfield> BlesKaj: I gave it a try already, but I can try again
[11:39] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: you would happen to have that mx440 in a newer computer ? I'm thinking about agp speed... (a longshot I know)
[11:39] <BluesKaj> reaasign the right setup , then you reset the monitor and grapghics in system settings
[11:39] <bjoldfield> it's in a new-ish computer
[11:39] <bjoldfield> but I've had it working before
[11:40] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: uhm..
[11:40] <bjoldfield> well, by new-ish, i mean 4 years old... new to me
[11:40] <_StefanS_> dogatemycomputer: the core 2 duo's are really cool... best cpu's in years
[11:41] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: hmm try dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[11:41] <BluesKaj> new in the pc community usually means within the last 6mos
[11:42] <BluesKaj> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe :)
[11:42] <dogatemycomputer> _StefanS_: I would like them more if Intel would let them scale their speed down further than 1.6Ghz.   The mobile processors (which are identical) are just more expensive.  It would be nice to cut down on the heat during the summer..
[11:43] <_StefanS_> dogatemycomputer: well I know what you're talking about there.. I have a 2.33 mobile, and it runs _very_ hot
[11:44] <BluesKaj> dogatemycomputer, my pc is 2ghz cpu but i can't get up past 1ghz ...somekind of power saving thing going on
[11:44] <_StefanS_> dogatemycomputer: but anyways, its damn fast and I dont need to turn on the heater :)
[11:44] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: tried it, but it didnt' work again
[11:44] <bjoldfield> I think I *may* see what's going on
[11:45] <BluesKaj> are you running that command in the terminal bjoldfield?
[11:45] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: well, you could try to let Xorg probe directly, maybe that would help
[11:45] <BluesKaj> seems awfully quick
[11:45] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: (WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found
[11:45] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: Xorg -configure >xorg.conf
[11:46] <dogatemycomputer> _StefanS_: well... i'm going to buy the mobile version next machine I build so I can get the heat production down.  I live in Phoenix so even a 1 degree increase in room temp can inflate my electric bill.
[11:46] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: err, I didn't see that in your paste (?)
[11:46] <dogatemycomputer> _StefanS_: of course the other 8 months of year it isn't a problem because I can just leave the windows open..
[11:46] <_StefanS_> dogatemycomputer: I see your point :)
[11:46] <_StefanS_> dogatemycomputer: that could probably make up for it then hehe
[11:46] <mildner> is there german help
[11:47] <_StefanS_> mildner: #kubuntu-de ?
[11:49] <bjoldfield> yeah, it just came up this time around
[11:49] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: sorry
[11:49] <dogatemycomputer> bjoldfield: that fixed it?
[11:50] <makuseru> hi, my amarok keeps saying i have no MP3 support but when i click "install mp3 support" nothing happens, how can i get it to play mp3s?
[11:50] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: tried the Xorg -configure, kind of worked, I'm in X now, but it looks like no WM is loading
[11:50] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: thats normal
[11:51] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: you should kill it with ctrl+backspace
[11:51] <dogatemycomputer> makuseru: did you close amarok then reopen it after attempting to install mp3 support?
[11:52] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: then it should write the config
[11:52] <makuseru> no
[11:52] <dogatemycomputer> makuseru: if that doesn't work.. how about trying "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodec"
[11:52] <bjoldfield> looks like it did, just have to change the driver for the gforce
[11:52] <makuseru> i have all my codecs
[11:52] <dogatemycomputer> makuseru: that's my last suggestion..
[11:53] <makuseru> it just stopped working all of a sudden
[11:53] <dogatemycomputer> makuseru: sorry :(  hope someone else can help
[11:53] <eljefe> E: Couldn't find package libxine-extracodec
[11:53] <dogatemycomputer> http://www.ubuntux.org/mp3-support-for-amarok
[11:53] <eljefe> makuseru: just stopped, but it played mp3s before?
[11:53] <makuseru> yes
[11:53] <eljefe> in your IRC, type /join #amarok [enter]  and ask there maybe
[11:54] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: didn't they dump support for the earlier boards some time back... or maybe that was ATI..
[11:54] <makuseru> its been fine, and then all of a sudden i open it to listen to somthing and i get 7 errors that pop up saying i have no mp3 suppoer
[11:54] <makuseru> support*
[11:54] <gnomefreak> eljefe: enable multiverse repo
[11:54] <gnomefreak> !info libxine-extracodecs
[11:54] <ubotwo> libxine-extracodecs - the xine video/media player library, binary files - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[11:54] <wilman> How do i install a wirreles mouse on ubuntu?
[11:54] <eljefe> no, i think the error was the package name should have been: libxine-extracodecs (with an 's' at the end)
[11:54] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: I'm pretty sure it was ATI, I have an all in wonder that I can't use anymore
[11:54] <wilman> mouse!
[11:55] <dogatemycomputer> makuseru: how about this?  http://mykubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/05/solved-my-temporary-amarok-mp3-problem.html
[11:55] <gnomefreak> eljefe: i just gave you the right spelling of it. and yes with an s as it is more than one codec
[11:55] <eljefe> wilman: plug it in?  thats how all my mice work (even the wireless need to connect some how)
[11:55] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: copied the new config file to /etc/X11/ but same errors
[11:55] <wilman> ok i have
[11:55] <wilman> and it detects the mouse
[11:55] <eljefe> gnomefreak: you gave the correct spelling but dogatemycomputer didn't
[11:55] <wilman> eljefe: but i cant do anyting with it
[11:56] <eljefe> wilman: has it the needed batteries?
[11:56] <eljefe> does it shine a light out the bottom?
[11:56] <wilman> yep
[11:56] <gnomefreak> wilman: try restarting if its detecting it that should work
[11:56] <wilman> there shines a ilght
[11:57] <gnomefreak> you shouldnt need to but sometimes you do
[11:57] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: err well, are you sure you got the right xorg.conf to /etc/X11?
[11:57] <wilman> hmm i have already done that
[11:57] <wilman> the ligth shines
[11:57] <eljefe> restarted the computer? it may help but thats a pretty lame fix (aka the windows way ;) )
[11:57] <wilman> my computer detects
[11:57] <_StefanS_> wilman: is it usb or bluetooth?
[11:57] <wilman> usb
[11:57] <gnomefreak> wilman: shut down, unplug mouse hold in hand for 30 secs plug it back in and start it up again
[11:58] <wilman> no that does'nt work i think:)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> wilman: you might need drivers but i dont rmemeber you needing them (i guess would depend on the mouse)
[11:58] <wilman> it is a shure :(
[11:58] <gnomefreak> no that doesnt work i think?
[11:59] <wilman> indeed i don't think that's gonna work
[11:59] <_StefanS_> wilman: whats the brand/model of the mouse?
[11:59] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: Yeah, Xorg -configure wrote it to xorg.conf.new in my home dir, and I copied that one to /etc/X11
[11:59] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: and renamed it to xorg.conf ?
[12:00] <wilman> wireless optical mouse trust xpertclick
[12:01] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: I did.  New question, possibly related, probably not.  On boot I'm now getting a message from the BIOS hardware monitor saying there's an error.  In BIOS the hardware monitor is showing my CPU at 101C/213F degrees
[12:01] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: well that would probably explain some of it I guess.
[12:02] <hendaus> hiya
[12:02] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: that usually leads to periodic errors
[12:02] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: what is normal operating temp?
[12:03] <_StefanS_> bjoldfield: 60-70(max)
[12:03] <bjoldfield> whee!
[12:03] <hendaus> helpers, how can i see my memory speed on kubuntu?
[12:04] <_StefanS_> hendaus: you should check your bios postmessage for that
[12:04] <bjoldfield> _StefanS_: alright, well, I really have to go get some studying in... one week left in the quarter and a ton of stuff to get done.  Thanks for all your help, and I'll most likely be back after my desktop cools off a bit and I get a chance to take another crack at it
[12:05] <hendaus> _StefanS_:  sorry i want to see how many memory i have?
[12:05] <_StefanS_> hendaus: cat /proc/meminfo
[12:05] <_StefanS_> hendaus: look at physical
[12:06] <hendaus> _StefanS_:  MemTotal:      1003440 kB
[12:07] <_StefanS_> hendaus: so thats one gig
[12:07] <_StefanS_> hendaus: my laptop says: MemTotal:      3115308 kB :P
[12:07] <hendaus> _StefanS_:  ok thanks
[12:07] <hendaus> nice
[12:08] <_StefanS_> gotta sleep..
[12:08] <_StefanS_> bye
[12:09] <wilman> WOOO I HAVE FOUND OUT !!!
[12:09] <wilman> you first have to read the manual before you know how to connect
[12:12] <kane_> hey whats a command i can use to max out the cpu via the cli/
[12:12] <kane_> i basicly want to slam the proc to see if it overheats
[12:13] <PhinnFort> kane_: there's several stress-testing programs available
[12:13] <PhinnFort> !info cpuburn
[12:13] <ubotwo> cpuburn - a collection of programs to put heavy load on CPU - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[12:13] <kane_> cool thanks.
[12:13] <PhinnFort> kane_: sudo aptitude install cpuburn && cpuburn
[12:13] <PhinnFort> :D