ubotuIn ubotu, Stormx2 said: ubotu, noob is why don't you stfu and rtfm or jfgi, you noob!12:44
ubotuIn ubotu, Stormx2 said: ubotu, noob is Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.12:44
LjL!ban > stormx2    (stormx2, see the private message from Ubotu)12:45
ompaulLjL, subtle like an op :)12:46
gnomefreakAmaranth: are you busy atm?12:52
gnomefreakguy complaining about feisty desktop-effects viewpoints bugs12:53
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Oxy-CottonLjL is a good op, he saved us by booting out some troll in -offtopic,01:01
Oxy-CottonCan the leader promote him or something?01:02
gnomefreakLjL: fan club?01:02
mc44I think LjL should be promoted too. Perhaps to Chief Sky Marshall or something01:03
gnomefreakOxy-Cotton: other than being really sarcastic what can we help you with?01:04
Oxy-CottonAs king james the 1st said "I rather pay for something that does a job well done, than get something for free, for a mediocre job."01:04
Oxy-Cottongnomefreak: I am serious.01:05
gnomefreakOxy-Cotton: you were spamming -offtopic and now it looks like you are trolling in here because you were banned from -offtopic01:06
Oxy-Cottongnomefreak: I know, but LjL participates in channel discussions, more so than other ops.01:06
gnomefreakOxy-Cotton: LjL talks in a channel and he bans you and you are here talking about king james for what reason?01:07
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Oxy-Cottongnomefreak: I just wanted you people to know he was a good op01:10
Oxy-Cottonanyway, about king james01:10
Oxy-CottonHe was executed by parliament on june 30th, 164201:10
gnomefreakwe know he is, he banned you when you were trolling but what does king james have to do with it and why are you praising him for banning you? maybe you can see where im confused?01:11
Oxy-CottonOliver cromell was the head of parliament at the time01:11
Oxy-Cottongnomefreak: I can see you are confused, I am not praising him for banning me.01:11
Oxy-CottonI am pointing out that he is a good opr01:12
gnomefreakwhen he banned you01:12
Oxy-Cottonwhich, is valuable criticism to ubuntu01:12
gnomefreakif he didnt ban you, you wouldnt be here for this reason01:12
Oxy-Cottongnomefreak: Yes, when he banned me, because that is when I saw him talking in the channel01:12
Oxy-Cottongnomefreak: Yes I would01:12
beunois it me or have there been more of these... "discusions" here then normal?  (think pointless discusions)01:12
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ompaulbeuno, ehh they are not discussions but they will resolve some things01:14
Oxy-CottonLjL: I just did a word count in MS word, 4,043 'f's so far01:14
Oxy-Cottongnomefreak: I am not trolling01:14
Oxy-CottonI can see why you would think so, but I really am not trolling01:14
beunoompaul: right, agreed, just seems like they go on forever01:15
naliothOxy-Cotton: funnily enough, that's what they all say . . .01:15
ompaulOxy-Cotton, if you are not trolling, can you tell us what exactly you are doing cos it looks really like a troll to me, and I only have 14 years on IRC01:15
Oxy-CottonBefore I got banned, LjL was engaged in the conversation,01:15
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ompaulOxy-Cotton,  </ SUBTLE HINT >01:15
Oxy-CottonIRC is not somewhere you can use experience.01:16
ompaulehh wrong01:16
Oxy-CottonI have 18 years at living.01:16
ompaulI have over double that01:16
Oxy-CottonDoes that mean I know all about life?01:16
ompaulcertainly not01:16
ubotuHey, this is terrific! Someone down there is trying to kill us01:17
ompaulLjL, a bit low for me :)01:17
Oxy-CottonLjL: Can you just unban me for one moment, I need to tell the entire channel something.01:19
ompaulOxy-Cotton, I don't think so01:19
LjLlet me guess, it involves the letter F?01:19
Oxy-Cottonwell, let me just save this doc as "fff.doc" on my desktop01:20
Oxy-CottonRight next to the firefox icon01:20
LjLpatience is a virtue01:21
naliothOxy-Cotton: share it with us, we'll pass it on, if it's cool stuff01:21
Oxy-Cottonif you really want me to share it with you....01:21
Oxy-Cottonlol LjL01:21
beunoLjL: lot's of virtue in this channel!01:21
Oxy-Cotton* lots01:21
gnomefreakiirc i have banned him a couple of times in #ubuntu (hence the reason i asked everything i asked)01:22
Oxy-CottonYou know all those things I said about kind james the 1st is true?01:22
ompaulOxy-Cotton, you want to talk to cotton?01:22
Oxy-Cottonompaul: Who is cotton>01:22
Oxy-CottonSure, I want to talk to him01:22
ompaulassumption he is a he01:23
Oxy-Cottongnomefreak: Are you talking about me?01:23
Oxy-CottonI never go into #ubuntu01:23
Oxy-Cottonand I am not banned there01:23
Oxy-Cottonompaul: May I please talk to the person?01:23
ompaulOxy-Cotton, not up to me01:23
Oxy-Cottonompaul: Who is he?01:23
gnomefreakit might have been kubuntu but one of the main channels i remember the nick well01:23
ompaul cotton :No such nick/channel01:24
Oxy-Cottonompaul: Who is he>01:24
ompaulno idea01:24
naliothOxy-Cotton: do you like using freenode?01:24
Oxy-CottonWhy, yes nalioth01:24
naliothi suggest you read http://freenode.net01:25
Oxy-CottonWhat should I read about?01:25
naliothread the whole site01:25
ompaulOxy-Cotton, let me help you there, that is not a suggestion, it is the best bit of advice your getting today01:25
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Oxy-Cottonompaul: It is a suggestion actually.01:26
Oxy-CottonYou can't make me read it, but it is suggested I do.01:26
naliothOxy-Cotton: also, just because you've been banned elsewhere doesn't mean you come here for your interaction01:26
ompaulsilly silly silly - it is advice, there are lines, read between them01:26
naliothOxy-Cotton: do as you will  :)01:26
Oxy-Cottonnalioth: I will start reading the staff blog first01:27
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Oxy-Cottonwe, I love to spam, so it works out01:30
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ubotucilaes called the ops in #ubuntuforums04:47
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Jordan_UCan someone ban me for a few hours, I need to get some homework done :)07:20
naliothJordan_U: network ban?07:23
fdovingget some self-discipline :)07:23
fdovinga quick google gives you some tips on how to exercise this: http://www.successconsciousness.com/index_000006.htm07:25
naliothJordan_U: or you could run around doing nasty things in channels and have a weeks vacation  :P07:33
Jordan_UWell, if ce.byu.edu is down for you guys too then I guess I can't even do my homework any more :(07:34
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Seveas@pity Jordan_U07:51
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ompaul@too early?08:02
naliothoooh nooo, it's ompaul08:03
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elkbuntuoh noetry08:04
naliothhi elkbuntu08:05
naliothstill in the running for the mostest fastest thread08:05
elkbuntumaybe not fastest, but seems to be going for longest08:05
elkbuntuno clue if i've managed that yet08:05
elkbuntuthere's like 60 mails in the thread08:06
naliothat least08:06
elkbuntumy last count was 59, no mails since i counted08:07
MyrttiI just *hate* awaynicks08:39
naliothMyrtti: we know08:39
Myrttidetest or loathe would be good verbs too08:40
MyrttiI pity the fools.08:40
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Myrttiso I'm hearing these rumours that Dell's Ubuntu has Automatix in it.09:03
naliothMyrtti: let us watch our language, please09:08
Myrttiso I suppose Canonical might have a say in that matter ;-)09:14
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ompaulMyrtti, you swore, I am shocked09:20
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Myrttiompaul: just tying the loose ends09:40
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ompaulMadpilot, pm?09:59
Madpilotompaul, anytime10:00
ompaulMadpilot, you get that?10:01
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ompaulit is a bit ill10:33
ompauland I don't have the access to give it a bit of a hand10:33
GazzaKpoor bot10:33
ompaulGazzaK, get it some 3 in 1 please :)10:33
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jussi01ompaul: have a look at the conversation in #ubuntuforums and youll understand...10:35
GazzaKyeah, sorry10:37
GazzaKit's not my fault10:37
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Myrtti/alias noaway say please, no public aways! http://bisqwit.iki.fi/jutut/away.html11:20
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jussi01far out i wish someone would kick <casey-drunksleep> in #ubuntuforums11:28
HobbseeSEP :D11:30
jussi01heh Hobbseeas soon as you joined he shut up and went to bed:D11:32
AmaranthHobbsee: your part message gets cut off11:33
HobbseeAmaranth: oh?11:33
Amaranth<-- Hobbsee (n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee) has left #ubuntuforums ("Carrier Pidgeon died mid-flight!  http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html  and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Wome)11:33
HobbseeAmaranth: ah.  thanks.  fixed.11:34
elkbuntuhehe... the pidgeon did not die mid-flight... thank gawd11:39
Madpilotno D in pigeon11:39
Hobbseeahhh.  thanks11:39
Hobbseei can never remember11:40
mc44no d in Mapilot!11:40
elkbuntuMadpilot, it's pidgin messing with our spelling11:40
Madpilotand another case of English pronunciation not meshing with English spelling...11:41
elkbuntupidgin is actually an English word11:43
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pricechildHow long as ubotu been like this?12:00
pricechildanyone pinged Seveas lately?12:00
gnomefreakbeen like what?12:03
GazzaKit's been broken for a while12:04
gnomefreakslow or doesnt work at all?12:04
GazzaKit does12:04
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GazzaKit does that12:04
gnomefreakwe got it working last night12:04
GazzaKbut no ! or @ commands12:04
pricechildah so its just encyclopedia...12:04
gnomefreakSeveas: ubotu is broken12:04
pricechildhehe... I'm sure he'll sort it12:04
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Amaranthbug 112:25
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apokryphosa /msg ubotu something removes the first character12:30
apokryphosso i.e. /msg ubotu ssomething works :o12:31
ubotuI hear the sound that the machines make, and feel my heart break, just12:31
ubotufor a moment.12:31
apokryphoshow poetic ;)12:32
ubotuKids always brighten up a house; mostly by leaving the lights on.12:35
PriceChildhaha good work apokryphos...12:40
ubotuAnyone who uses the phrase "easy as taking candy from a baby" has never12:43
ubotutried taking candy from a baby.12:43
ubotu-- Robin Hood12:43
poningruDBO: thanks ;)01:17
poningrubut is ubotu dead or something?01:17
Myrttihe's picky01:17
mc44!!bot > poningru01:17
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:17
Myrttiponingru: he's dropping the first character off01:18
MyrttiI got a cloak!01:21
poningruwell dont go out night with the cloak on... you might scare people01:22
mc44eww wikipedia cloak! Bad Myrtti :P01:22
Myrttimc44: I don't dare to try to get a ubuntu one01:22
mc44Myrtti: :)01:22
Myrttimy employer might have a say in that, or our customers01:22
Myrttiie. Red Hat and Novell01:23
mc44Myrtti: who do you work for?01:23
Myrttis/customers/business members/01:23
Myrttimc44: http://www.coss.fi (in English -link is on the top of the page)01:24
mc44Myrtti: bah thats not a real job :)01:24
MyrttiI get paid for it ;-)01:25
Myrttiand got a cell phone and a phone number and a laptop to do my work with :-P01:25
mc44@envy Myrtti01:25
MyrttiI should prolly continue documenting the laptop again...01:26
elkbuntuooh, so when we need wikipedia pages done, we run to myrtti?01:35
Myrttionly if you need some touch up to the Finnish one01:36
MyrttiI politely reject other requests01:40
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DBOgot a highlight on away do we Hobbsee?01:42
HobbseeDBO: no.  was in -motu, so i did a /whois01:43
Hobbseeeven more annoying seeing as it was in colour01:44
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ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines and !nickspam01:44
Myrttiplease, no public aways! http://bisqwit.iki.fi/jutut/away.html01:45
SportChickSeveas: you about?01:49
Hobbseepeople, dont argue with me over me versioning you.  you've done the wrong thing with your away, now turn it off, and dont start having a go at me.01:52
ompaulSportChick, he won't be back I would guess for at least 5 hours01:57
SportChickompaul: no worries01:57
SportChickSeveas: check your pms when you get back01:58
Hobbseesorry...people...the fact that you're brazillian doesnt exempt you from following the rules.01:58
Hobbseei can understand that you may have trouble initially understanding them, whcih si where common sense is useful, and/or asking a brazillian friend who speaks more english than you...01:59
Hobbseebut that's still no excuse for not following the rules, nor aquainting yourself with them.01:59
ompaulHobbsee, you are in -ops atm01:59
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Hobbseei know.02:00
Hobbseei'm whinging02:00
ompaulLjL, ubugtwo please02:00
MyrttiHobbsee: don't you just love it?02:00
ompaulLjL, ubotu is suffering from some regex issues02:00
HobbseeMyrtti: very much so.  :P02:01
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LjLwhat about we get rid of !away and just keep !nickspam? seem redundant02:04
Myrttiawaynicks are far more popular than nickspam02:05
Myrttithat combined with public aways02:05
LjLyeah but !nickspam is more informative, more general and tells you about /away02:05
ubotwoPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines and !nickspam02:05
ubotwoYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently02:05
Myrtticombine the two and make another an alias?02:06
LjLi fail to see how they're not redundant02:06
ompaulLjL, don't go editing ubotu until the regex is tidied up :)02:06
LjLompaul: i could guess that much :P02:06
ompauland I concur  away should be an alias of nickspam02:06
LjLMyrtti: sure of course i meant make !away an alias02:06
LjLwe seldom if ever "remove" factoids... we alias them02:06
LjLbut as for combining them, i think !nickspam already includes everything that's in !away02:07
LjL[simulation]  nickspam is <sed> /(see !Away for more details)/(see !Guidelines for more details)/       as the guidelines also link to a detailed article about why away messages are bad02:08
LjLand away is <alias> nickspam02:09
Myrttimy logic fails to simulate the result, but no matter02:09
LjL!test > ljl    (ljl, see the private message from Ubotu)02:11
ubotwoLjL: Error: That person could not be found in any channel you're in02:11
LjL!info ubuntu-desktop > ljl02:11
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/02:11
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HobbseeLjL: please add ubotwo to ubuntu-devel/ubuntu-motu03:40
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mneptok!paste > belfegor04:30
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mneptokHobbsee: more fiber can help with that04:36
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MyrttiPriceChild: good luck :-)04:41
PriceChildLjL, could you shove ubotu into #ubuntu-proxy-users please?05:14
Myrttishould I kick that bot off #ubuntu?05:27
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MyrttiI don't know if I hurt someone's feelings, but I think it wasn't an allowed official or even semiofficial one05:30
mneptokMyrtti: i would have done the same05:31
mneptok(which is hardly a glowing recommendation) ;)05:31
mneptokMyrtti: BTW, i am no longer a black vodka virgin :)05:32
mneptokMonty Widenius introduced me to it.05:32
mneptoknow all i need is a negative sauna and my sisu will REALLY be running!05:32
LjLMyrtti, no mercy with interactive bots on #ubuntu05:33
PriceChildHmmm I remember that nick and I think for the same reason...05:36
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PriceChildbah not on there.05:36
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elkbuntuhey mneptok. back from holiday?06:20
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ompaulMyrtti, which one?06:51
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elkbuntu<aoirthoir> SamWise_TheGreat, no swap for me:) just ask the swap nazi on seinfeld. <-- wtf?07:35
mc44elkbuntu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soup_Nazi07:36
naliothelkbuntu: if he's not totally banned . . .07:36
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elkbuntui am not going to enter discussion with the twat07:37
elkbuntupleia2, hehehe07:37
mc44elkbuntu: hes gone back to the lease which is banned in -offtopic :)07:37
PiciNow I dont want to start a debate here, but that seinfeld episode kinda brought calling people nazis out of the realm of taboo07:38
PiciWhich is why people think it is acceptable here07:39
elkbuntuit is not acceptable in an international setting where affected regions and cultures need to feel comfortable07:39
GazzaKsorry, I was born and raised in Germany, I think it is wrong to call people Nazis07:40
PiciOh, I didnt say that I agreed with it, just pointing out why other people do07:41
GazzaKit's like calling me a labour as my current county of residence is run by the labour party, i'd be so insulted07:41
PiciWell, I think its a bit worse than that07:42
elkbuntuwell.. they do have Blair :07:42
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ikonia ban buttons on standby09:25
ikoniakenthomson in the channel09:25
GazzaKikonia, #ubuntu ?09:25
ikoniaI'm only kidding though09:26
ikoniahe's behaving09:26
GazzaKit's sad when you feel like that when a user joins though09:26
ikoniait is09:28
ompaulikonia, forgive me if I don't contribute to that discussion, check the buttons for input muted mics etc, and physically check switches on the mic09:29
ikoniayeah, he's done that09:30
ompauland funny how it is always this time09:30
ikoniaI'm going to back away in a minute09:30
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ikoniaalmost to the hour09:30
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LjLone clone changing realname (but i banned by IP)09:52
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PriceChildSeveas, You around?10:50
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SeveasPriceChild, just got home (drunk though, so not available for serious things)11:09
PriceChildSeveas, got a #ubuntu-nl op who can? There's a guy called ward__ repeatedly wanting someone to tell him why he's banned in -nl :P11:10
PriceChildNo-one answered when I tried in their earlier.11:10
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GazzaKward__ has been banned from #ubuntu-nl, anyone know why?11:24
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ward__hi all, is #ubuntu-nl covered here?11:24
PriceChildGazzaK, I asked for someone earlier... no-one replied.11:24
PriceChildward__, Not really.11:24
PriceChildGazzaK, I'll try again now. (Seveas is out)11:24
Seveasward__, repeatedly asking is not going to help...11:25
Seveasit's only making it worse :)11:25
ward__this is the first time i come and ask here :s11:25
ward__they tell me: go ask in #ubuntu-ops11:25
ward__so i come here11:25
GazzaKSeveas, and he only asked in here as #freenode suggested it11:25
ward__and people are pissed at me AGAIN11:25
GazzaKward__, calm down11:25
Oxy-CottonCan someone unban me in -offtopic plese11:26
ward__GazzaK, i am calm11:26
ward__Seveas, they told me to /msg you or come here, so i first tried to come here11:26
Oxy-CottonYou tried the latter11:26
ward__latter? sorry i'm not native english i don't understand that word11:27
Oxy-CottonA thing you climb on11:27
Oxy-CottonLike a rope11:27
ward__ok i know what u mean now :-) Oxy-Cotton11:27
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Seveasward__, ah, ik hoorde van mensen hier dat je het steeds vroeg11:27
Seveasdan heb ik ze zeker verkeerd begrpen :)11:28
ward__Seveas, wrs bedoelde PriceChild dat ik meermaals vroeg of hij al reactie had gekregen11:28
ward__op #ubuntu-nl11:28
Seveasik zie in m'n logs alleen een ban van 10 december, dus het is een beetje vaag11:28
Seveasmaar ik ben nu te dronken en te moe om verder te zoeken, dus je zult tot morgen moeten wachten -- bedtijd hier11:29
ward__toen had ik niet eens ubuntu installed dnek ik :s11:29
ward__no problem11:29
ward__slaapwel, Seveas11:29
GazzaKSeveas, nr, vroeg hij in #freenode en zij stuurden hem hier, denk ik hij een paar keer vroeg11:29
GazzaKdid that translate right?11:30
SeveasGazzaK, not too bad :)11:30
ward__only one small fault :p11:30
GazzaKbabelfish ftw :-)11:30
Seveasward__, GazzaK is one big mistake so it's ok11:31
ward__how come so many people speak dutch on IRC?11:31
SeveasI'm really off now, g'night all11:31
ward__byebye, Seveas11:31
mc44Seveas: get up early to fix ubotu :)11:31
GazzaKward__, I don't, I just now babelfish11:31
GazzaKsee I don't even know english11:32
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GazzaKSeveas, my mother would be so upset to see that11:32
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gnomefreaklatter == the later ladder == the thing you climb11:35
gnomefreakthe later could be reworded but you get the idea11:36
naliothit is not the banned folks' place to idle in here and confuse things11:37
gnomefreakno but "they think" since im banned from offtopic i can come here and talk about anything i want :(11:38
gnomefreakthe folks banned from #ubuntu tend to either complian, outright annoy us to unban him/her (lost train of thougth :(11:39
GazzaKgnomefreak, having a good day then?11:41
gnomefreaknot really11:41
gnomefreakgod help him11:44
gnomefreakanyone reading this guy?11:44
gnomefreaklets use --force-$ to install a gutsy package on feisty now it wont let me upgrade to gutsy11:45
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gnomefreakthe bot doesnt pm people :(12:00
LjLyes it does12:01
LjLyou can't use fancy syntax though12:01
LjL!bot > gnomefreak12:01
gnomefreak!mp3 > bleh is fancy?12:01
LjLgnomefreak: ubotwo's code is months old. many months.12:01
LjLwe didn't have that syntax until relatively recently12:02
gnomefreakah ok ill use it without the comments next time :)12:02
gnomefreak18:00 <      gnomefreak > makuseru: lose the caps please   <<< is that a question?12:02
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