[04:14] <Fezzler> SWAT keeps asking for Authentification Required?
[07:51] <dholbach> hiya... is there anybody who knows about packaging 'web applications'?
[07:52] <dholbach> I have somebody who's interested in getting involved there
[08:16] <Pumpernickel> That sounds all kinds of complicated, if you're thinking of more than a source tarball.
[08:17] <dholbach> most 'web apps' come in a tarball, but need not just installation to some random place, but also integration, which is more tricky
[08:17] <dholbach> I never touched any of those packages at all, so I don't know - but as I said, there's somebody who'd be interested in helping out there - I'm not sure where to point him
[08:19] <Pumpernickel> The customization might work out if there was a decent script asking where various components should go.
[08:20] <dholbach> might be... I'm just no expert when it comes to this, so I pointed him to the ubuntu-server@ list
[08:21] <shawarma> dholbach: The ampache guy?
[08:21] <dholbach> Charlie Smotherman
[08:22] <dholbach> not sure if that's the ampache guy
[08:22] <dholbach> it'd be nice to have at least a list of packages that are good examples of how to get it done
[08:22] <dholbach> I hope I can get him involved there
[08:22] <shawarma> Funny, I was going to redirect him to #ubuntu-motu. :)
[08:23] <dholbach> we have nobody who maintains such packages in a dedicated way
[08:24] <shawarma> I suppose not. It's a php/mysql kind of thing, iirc?
[08:24] <dholbach> so I thought the server team (who has some kind of interest in that kind of package) might get some efforts started to have maybe a set of wiki pages that explain something *shrug*
[08:24] <dholbach> I suppose, yes
[08:24] <shawarma> Good idea.
[08:25] <shawarma> I'll probably send him an e-mail later today when I'm rested.
[08:25] <dholbach> take your time!
[08:45] <shawarma> dholbach: :)
[05:07] <jtole_> I know this probably isn't too server specific but can anyone tell me what command I use to see what packages I have installed
[05:07] <jtole_> ?
[05:14] <disposable> i'm trying to enable https on my apache2.2.3. I followed help.ubuntu.com but when i did the final restart of the server, i got: Syntax error on line 7 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default  SSLOptions: Illegal option 'CompatEnvVars'   What do i need to do?
[05:22] <mralphabet> you may want to try #apache
[09:45] <mh_le> hi how can I check if I'm using the *-server kernel?
[09:46] <danp> uname -a
[09:46] <danp> uname -r specifically
[09:47] <foo> Hm, if a system is pushing 10mbit, and it's capped 10mbit on the switch (or some other hardware), some traffic will be lost, right?
[09:48] <danp> depending on how the capping is happening, the TCP stack on the system doing the traffic should slow things down
[09:49] <mralphabet> switch will throw packets away
[09:49] <mh_le> danp: it seems I'm using 2.6.20-15-386... how can I change it to -server?
[09:50] <foo> danp / mralphabet: hmm, I see. So, it really depends on the capping, huh?
[09:51] <mralphabet> well, what happens when the switch throws packets away is the tcp connection on the other end says "hey, I didn't get packet 23482983479, lets re request that" and sends a packet back asking for a resend
[09:51] <mralphabet> which only adds to the problem
[09:51] <foo> hmm, I see. 
[09:52] <danp> they'll figure it out
[09:52] <danp> mh_le: apt-get install linux-image-server maybe
[09:52] <mralphabet> IF the application you are using is tcp, if udp then there isn't a re request process
[09:52] <mh_le> danp: thanks
[09:52] <foo> mralphabet: right, right. HTTP = TCP, no?
[09:52] <mralphabet> udp just ignores the missing packets
[09:53] <foo> mralphabet: Great, thank you!
[09:53] <mh_le> danp: it's set to manual install
[09:56] <danp> foo: might check this out: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netsp/article.php/3595616
[09:58] <foo> danp: thanks!