[12:20] <LaserJock> hi pygi
[12:20] <pygi> hey Laser
[12:20] <pygi> how is it going?
[12:33] <LaserJock> it's going
[12:33] <LaserJock> sorry, was afk
[12:34] <LaserJock> working on some Edubuntu stuff
[12:34] <LaserJock> and research
[12:36] <pygi> no problems
[12:50] <LaserJock> pygi: how are you doing these days?
[12:51] <pygi> LaserJock, pretty good, but very tired
[12:52] <LaserJock> sounds like me :-)
[12:52] <pygi> hehe
[02:16] <Rob_> Hello to all
[02:17] <Rob_> I just downloaded edubuntu, and I am trying to get it to run on my Dell Precision 530
[02:18] <Rob_> It boots fine and then it stops and exits to a shell and says that it could not open the tty.
[02:18] <Rob_> Any ideas?
[02:20] <LaserJock> Rob_: which Edubuntu disk are you using?
[02:20] <Rob_> 7.04 PCx86
[02:20] <Rob_> Desktop
[02:20] <LaserJock> ok
[02:21] <LaserJock> I'm not great with the Desktop CDs
[02:21] <LaserJock> they've always worked pretty fine for me
[02:21] <LaserJock> are you wanting to install Edubuntu?
[02:21] <Rob_> Sure. It may be that I have a bad disk
[02:22] <LaserJock> you should be able to run the disk check when you boot the CD
[02:22] <Rob_> It does the same thing with that\
[02:22] <LaserJock> oh
[02:22] <LaserJock> that's no good
[02:23] <LaserJock> you can do a checksum on the .iso
[02:23] <LaserJock> that's the first place a disk can go wrong
[02:23] <Rob_> It may be the disk.
[02:23] <LaserJock> if that's ok then you can try reburning
[02:23] <Rob_> I did the checksum and it is good
[02:23] <LaserJock> ok
[02:23] <Rob_> I will re-burn the disk
[02:23] <Rob_> Can you burn the iso to a dvd?
[02:24] <LaserJock> ok, so back to a previous question, are you wanting to install Edubuntu or just check it out?
[02:24] <LaserJock> yes, you can
[02:24] <Rob_> Check it out.
[02:24] <Rob_> We homeschool, and I would like to see what it offers.
[02:25] <LaserJock> cool
[02:25] <LaserJock> I was homeschooled
[02:25] <Rob_> bbiaf
[02:32] <Rob_> i'm back
[02:32] <Rob_> Laser: any ideas?
[02:33] <LaserJock> well, you could try reburning
[02:34] <Rob_> thanks--gotta go take care of the kids
[11:30] <tristan_> anyone experience with a multiseat thin client setup in edubuntu?
[02:13] <bronze> tristan_: aren't all LTSP setup inherently multi-seat?  or are you talking about multiple users per thin client?
[02:14] <tristan_> i was talking about the last one
[02:15] <tristan_> when I have to buy a PC for each client it doesn't make sense anymore to use thin clients ;p
[02:18] <bronze> use the $139 units from devon IT
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> you dont need the whole pc, so it makes a fiar bit of sense in a lot of cases
[02:18] <tristan_> well, I already have an old PC which may do the job
[02:18] <tristan_> and it's capable to do multiseat things
[02:19] <tristan_> but I want to use thin clients to gain more power (since the server has more CPU power)
[02:19] <tristan_> and more memory
[02:19] <bronze> then use that.  be aware it wont save you any money on pwer consumption.
[02:19] <bronze> *power
[02:20] <bronze> Unless you calculate power used per seat, which is a win.
[02:21] <tristan_> but is it possible to make a multiseat thin client?
[02:23] <tristan_> I buy some cables and a switch today anyway, to give it a try
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> i still dont get what multiseat means
[02:24] <tristan_> multiple keyboards,monitors,mouses
[02:24] <bronze> on a single CPU
[02:24] <tristan_> yep
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh
[02:40] <pinch150g> Is there anyone that has had experience installing on a Dell Precision 530 workstation?
[02:42] <pinch150g> Anyone here?
[05:27] <tristan_> can anyone tell me if it increase the quality of a thin client when it has 256MB instead of 64 of 128?
[05:27] <tristan_> or 192
[06:10] <tristan_> so
[06:10] <tristan_> screwed my PC
[06:10] <tristan_> :)
[06:17] <nixternal> man, I had one hell of a funny comeback for that one :)
[06:17] <nixternal> tristan_: what happened?
[06:17] <tristan_> i took the dualhead videocard out of my pc
[06:18] <tristan_> and put another old crappy PCI videocard in it
[06:18] <tristan_> and removed the networkcard with bootrom
[06:18] <tristan_> for one gigabit networkcard
[06:18] <tristan_> so I can make a server of it
[06:18] <tristan_> and can put the videocard in this one
[06:18] <tristan_> and the networkcard in my thin client
[06:18] <tristan_> but for some reason it causes some *beep beep*
[06:18] <nixternal> well, you probably didn't screw it to bad...have you tried reconfiguring xorg?
[06:19] <nixternal> ahhh
[06:19] <nixternal> so it doesn't get past bios
[06:19] <tristan_> indeed
[06:19] <tristan_> maybe I should connect the monitor to it
[06:19] <nixternal> have you tried putting the old hardware back in to see if it goes away?
[06:19] <tristan_> and a keyboard
[06:19] <tristan_> and see what happens then
[06:19] <tristan_> :P
[06:20] <tristan_> my thin client doesn't work properly yet either
[06:20] <nixternal> hrmm, possible to have the "halt on all errors" set in bios..but I didn't think that would cause beeps
[06:20] <tristan_> since the videocard or the monitor isn't working
[06:21] <tristan_> never had errors on any PC I builded
[06:21] <tristan_> always were working immediately
[06:21] <tristan_> except that time I forgot to put a fan on the CPU
[06:22] <nixternal> ya, I have had luck with new builds, I tend to destroy systems when I decide to tear them down and clean them out :)
[06:23] <tristan_> may I ask where you're from?
[06:23] <nixternal> chicago unfortunately :)
[06:24] <tristan_> do they have "give-away-stores" there?
[06:24] <tristan_> or something like that?
[06:24] <nixternal> I only wish...we do "give-aways" though at our lug meetings
[06:24] <nixternal> there are some used pc places that I can usually get a good deal on stuff...older usually
[06:26] <tristan_> nixternal: I'm setting up thin clients and stuff for a give-away-store now
[06:26] <tristan_> and free internetspace
[06:26] <nixternal> that rocks
[06:27] <tristan_> and next week or so I want to fix a hotspot too
[06:27] <nixternal> oh...I know what you mean by give-away-store now..ya we do have a couple in chicago actually
[06:27] <tristan_> aah
[06:27] <nixternal> some of the LUG guys and also Free Geek do the same
[06:27] <tristan_> nice :)
[06:27] <tristan_> what is LUG?
[06:28] <tristan_> ohw wait
[06:28] <tristan_> i know
[06:28] <tristan_> :)
[06:29] <tristan_> this is a squat btw
[06:29] <tristan_> how common is squatting there?
[06:30] <cbx33> hey all
[06:30] <nixternal> hiya Petey
[06:30] <cbx33> howz it going nixternal
[06:30] <nixternal> how goeth the Python mastah!
[06:30] <cbx33> hehe
[06:30] <cbx33> yeh good
[06:30] <cbx33> been getting up to some tricks
[06:30] <cbx33> hehe :p
[06:31] <nixternal> I have been learning Python and PyQt4 here lately
[06:31] <cbx33> awesome
[06:31] <cbx33> python just rocks doesn't it
[06:31] <nixternal> I bought a few books that I have been skimming through and using hte Python documentation that is everywhere
[06:31] <cbx33> the python docs I find a great resource
[06:31] <nixternal> Python is nice...for some reason some of the syntax reminds me a little of VB
[06:31] <cbx33> i like the whitespace reliance
[06:31] <nixternal> oh yes
[06:32] <cbx33> makes a messy coder like me write clean readable code
[06:32] <nixternal> hehe
[06:32] <nixternal> I was using Eric to do some Python, but I think I am just to addicted to using Kate
[06:34] <nixternal> well, you know I am rockin' the KDE :)
[06:34] <nixternal> that is why I have stoked that Edubuntu will be featuring some KDE love finally :)
[06:35] <cbx33> yeh
[06:35] <cbx33> that is pretty awesome
[08:16] <LaserJock> hi cbx33
[08:24] <encompass> cbx33: have you tried scribes?  That one has some great progress.
[08:38] <pygi> and I'm going to package it pretty soon :)
[09:11] <pygi> encompass, ^_^
[09:17] <encompass> pygi: sup sup
[09:18] <encompass> pygi: oh I see ... cool thanks... not to hard to install strait, but we all know deb is the way to go
[09:19] <jonathan_> Anyone willing to assist w/ an Edubuntu LTSP server setup?
[09:19] <pygi> jonathan_, just ask
[09:19] <pygi> encompass, yup ^_^
[09:20] <pygi> encompass, should be done next week AFAIK
[09:20] <jonathan_> setup has 2 nics one setup dhcp other defaulted to roaming...
[09:20] <jonathan_> the clients don't see a dhcp server
[09:21] <pygi> meh, we should write that somewhere (or did we already?)
[09:21] <jonathan_> how should the second nic be setup?
[09:21] <pygi> I think it's pretty common problem
[09:27] <jonathan_> Do I have to change the dhcpd.conf for my setup?
[09:27] <pygi> /opt/ltsp/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[09:27] <pygi> perhaps, or something
[09:28] <jonathan_> So out of the box, with 2 nics installed, Edubuntu doesn't play...
[09:29] <LaserJock> jonathan_: I think it's supposed to work out of the box
[09:29] <LaserJock> but I'm not positive
[09:30] <LaserJock> you might look in http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/
[09:30] <tristan_> http://www.edubuntu.org/images/ltsp_inet.png <- it's the suggested config?
[09:30] <jonathan_> tristan yes that's my setup
[09:30] <tristan_> i want to use that setup to
[09:30] <jonathan_> i setup eth1 as dhcp going out to the internets
[09:31] <jonathan_> it did not ask me to setup eth0
[09:31] <tristan_> but in my setup the server also gonna be the webserver voor chillispot
[09:31] <jonathan_> so when i took a look at it in networking, it notated it was roaming
[09:31] <LaserJock> yeah, I'm wondering about that
[09:31] <jonathan_> Laserjock the documentation you gave does not tell you what to do w/ the second nic
[09:35] <jonathan_> checking out some threads... it notates to put a nic at 192.168.0.1