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aragy	can i make the physical power button start a shutdown immediately instead of showing kde's shutdown dialog?	12:16
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PhinnFort	aragy: try in /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh	12:16
BenPA	Anyone have a easy simple backup and recovery strategy or program	12:17
PhinnFort	aragy: hang on, I'll look a bit into it	12:17
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PhinnFort	BenPA: Kubuntu should come with Keep installed by default	12:17
PhinnFort	!info keep \| BenPA	12:17
ubotwo	BenPA: keep - backup system for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	12:17
LjL	!backup \| BenPA	12:17
ubotwo	BenPA: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning	12:17
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BenPA	thank you	12:18
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xultz	Hello guys, I am trying to use mplayer and it works well, and I am using a subtitle file wich works well, but I cannot change the size of the letters in the subtitles, I tryed some options on command line and nothing worked, can someone give me a help, please?	12:19
PhinnFort	xultz: you could try installing one of the frontends available, such as KPlayer (my recommendation) or KMplayer	12:20
dogatemycomputer	xultz: would a gui be okay? if so then kplayer works really well.	12:20
dogatemycomputer	aren't mplayer fonts usually set with one of the OSD options?	12:20
PhinnFort	http://kplayer.sourceforge.net/	12:20
xultz	let me try kplayer	12:21
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xultz	that leads me to another little problem: I installed Kubuntu and added the following repository: http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ but when I try to install anything today it gives me a 404 not found	12:22
xultz	how do I change to another repository?	12:22
PhinnFort	xultz: what exact line did you add?	12:22
xultz	for example:	12:22
normie	Hello people	12:22
xultz	sudo apt-get install xine-ui	12:22
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makuseru	can someone give me a repo for amarok in feisty?	12:23
PhinnFort	xultz: the mirror is no more, as far as I can see	12:23
xultz	Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe xine-ui 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2	12:23
xultz	404 Not Found	12:23
PhinnFort	makuseru: it should be in the normal repos	12:23
PhinnFort	!info amarok	12:23
ubotwo	amarok - versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	12:23
xultz	yes, where do I find another mirror and add it?	12:23
PhinnFort	darn that ubotwo	12:23
PhinnFort	xultz: I have absolutely no idea what was on that repo	12:23
LjL	!!info amarok	12:23
ubotu	amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.5-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 14853 kB, installed size 33992 kB	12:23
PhinnFort	thanks	12:24
makuseru	PhinnFort: somthing is wrong to that, it wont work for me	12:24
xultz	sorry for such a dumb question, I am used to Mandriva for years and I am trying Kubuntu now	12:24
makuseru	wrong with that*	12:24
PhinnFort	makuseru: Add/Remove programs, search for Amarok?	12:24
PhinnFort	xultz: what do you want from that repository?	12:24
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makuseru	theres somthing wrong with the normal one for me	12:24
makuseru	im looking for another	12:24
xultz	I was trying to install xine-ui	12:24
xultz	for gxine	12:24
PhinnFort	!!find xine-ui	12:25
ubotwo	Sorry, searching for packages and files is currently not possible	12:25
ubotu	Found: xine-ui	12:25
PhinnFort	!!info xine-ui	12:25
ubotwo	xine-ui - the xine video player, user interface - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	12:25
ubotu	xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1483 kB, installed size 3532 kB	12:25
lucas_	hello, i'm from spain	12:25
PhinnFort	xultz: just enable the universe repositories	12:25
PhinnFort	!repositories \| xultz	12:25
ubotwo	xultz: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	12:25
dogatemycomputer	how about this repository for amarok: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main	12:25
xultz	I will look that link, tahnk you a lot	12:25
PhinnFort	makuseru: I doubt another repo would help	12:25
makuseru	i use feisty	12:25
PhinnFort	makuseru: what is the problem with Amarok?	12:26
aragy	phinnfort: thx, editing /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh seems to have worked	12:26
lucas_	hi laidy	12:26
PhinnFort	aragy: :D	12:26
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Darth_Homey	Hello people	12:27
makuseru	well its been fine for a long time, but this morning i open it up and i get 7 popups saying i have no mp3 support, when i always have, so i reinstall ALL my multimedia codecs anyway, and it didnt help, so i reinstall amarok 5 times and still no mp3 support	12:27
PhinnFort	!hi \| Darth_Homey	12:27
ubotwo	Darth_Homey: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	12:27
Darth_Homey	How's everyone	12:27
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PhinnFort	!!info libxine-extracodecs \| makuseru	12:28
ubotwo	makuseru: libxine-extracodecs - the xine video/media player library, binary files - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	12:28
ubotu	makuseru: libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB	12:28
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makuseru	i have thoes	12:28
adydas	whats a good kde based program for setting up harddrives	12:28
adydas	i KNOW ive used one before	12:28
PhinnFort	qtparted	12:28
adydas	i forget what its called tho	12:28
adydas	thats it	12:28
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nahemoth_	I can't activate my network connection!	12:28
PhinnFort	makuseru: try mv'ing your amarok settings	12:28
makuseru	try what?	12:29
adydas	nahemoth_: why not	12:29
PhinnFort	makuseru: look under ".kde/share/apps/amarok/"	12:29
nahemoth_	ah I don't know	12:29
PhinnFort	in your home folder	12:29
makuseru	oh, moving it	12:29
PhinnFort	makuseru: move that amarok folder to another place	12:29
nahemoth_	adydas: I can connect on internet	12:29
PhinnFort	;)	12:29
BenPA	!sbackup	12:29
BenPA	!info sbackup	12:29
ubotwo	sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe	12:29
ubotwo	sbackup - Simple Backup Suite for desktop use - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	12:29
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makuseru	why move it?	12:29
nahemoth_	adydas: but can't see the people in LAN	12:29
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nahemoth_	adydas: I can't use smb4k	12:29
adydas	nahemoth_: do you have samba installed?	12:29
PhinnFort	makuseru: so you can move it back if you need it	12:29
nahemoth_	adydas: it finds nothing	12:29
makuseru	huh/	12:29
nahemoth_	adydas: yea	12:29
PhinnFort	does samba support ipv6 properly?	12:29
PhinnFort	nahemoth_: go to "smb:/" in konqueror	12:30
makuseru	i mean why would moving it help the mp3 stuff?	12:30
PhinnFort	do you find anything?	12:30
PhinnFort	makuseru: you shouldn't have mp3's there	12:30
PhinnFort	makuseru: only config files	12:30
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: It's working	12:30
makuseru	PhinnFort: i mean why would me moving that folder help the mp3 support?	12:30
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PhinnFort	makuseru: it would help amarok try to redetect everything	12:31
makuseru	oh	12:31
makuseru	ok	12:31
PhinnFort	makuseru: it seems it's stuck in a bad state, which it has saved	12:31
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: but I get an error message like "could not connect to host"	12:31
makuseru	can i just delete it?	12:31
PhinnFort	makuseru: if you don't have a valuable database there with ratings and scripts et al	12:32
PhinnFort	;)	12:32
makuseru	nah	12:32
PhinnFort	then go ahead	12:32
makuseru	just album covers, but itll get them back	12:32
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PhinnFort	<3 amarok;)	12:32
makuseru	i do too	12:32
makuseru	i want it back	12:32
makuseru	ok, so now i deleted it, just try to open it up again?	12:32
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PhinnFort	makuseru: yeah	12:33
PhinnFort	makuseru: did you close amarok before you deleted them?	12:33
PhinnFort	makuseru: amarok writes them when it closes, afaik	12:33
makuseru	yup	12:33
PhinnFort	good	12:33
PhinnFort	:P	12:33
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: but I get an error message like "could not connect to host"	12:33
PhinnFort	nahemoth_: is it a Vista machine that you're trying to connect to?	12:33
PhinnFort	I know there was some compatibility issues with Vista and Samba, and I'm not sure if they're resolved	12:34
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: no	12:34
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: xp	12:34
PhinnFort	hmm	12:34
PhinnFort	nahemoth_: can you connect to it from another windows/linux pc?	12:34
makuseru	PhinnFort: nope, still messed up	12:34
PhinnFort	makuseru: and you're sure you cleaned out everything?	12:34
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PhinnFort	makuseru: can you try running amarok from a console, and paste the output?	12:35
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makuseru	yes, just a second	12:35
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: yes, just before this one I was using Pardus (a Turkish linux distro) and I was able to connect to other computers	12:35
pricechild	Hey there. I'm using xchat2 on kubuntu and for some reason the channels never change colours for new messages etc. This is reproducable for me off of a live cd. Does anyone else know of this behaviour?	12:35
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: but I couldn't do it this time	12:35
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makuseru	PhinnFort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22497/	12:36
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PhinnFort	nahemoth_: you don't have a firewall running?	12:36
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Darth_Homey	what;s up Automatrix	12:36
PhinnFort	makuseru: it shouldn't even warn you about mp3 support if you have an empty library	12:37
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nahemoth_	PhinnFort: I don't know, It's been only 2 hours I set up Kubuntu, is there a default firewall	12:37
PhinnFort	nahemoth_: I don't think so	12:37
AutoMatriX	Darth_Homey: nothing, at least yet, but that doesn't prevent me to say hello :p	12:37
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PhinnFort	nahemoth_: can you connect in Konqueror?	12:38
makuseru	PhinnFort: i dont have an empty library, it still had all my stuff in it and when i tried to import it it says it cant	12:38
nahemoth_	yea	12:38
Darth_Homey	Automatrix: your right dude :-)	12:38
PhinnFort	makuseru: but didn't you delete the config dir?	12:38
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: yes	12:38
PhinnFort	nahemoth_: I'll install smb4k and have a look around, mkay?	12:38
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: I have n problem about internet	12:38
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AutoMatriX	:D	12:39
makuseru	PhinnFort: yes	12:39
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sonoman	he	12:39
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Darth_Homey	anyone uses the YaKuake terminal?	12:40
PhinnFort	makuseru: try this "killall amarokapp -s KILL && rm ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/"	12:40
PhinnFort	Darth_Homey: me	12:40
Darth_Homey	PhinnFort: cool isn't it. i installed it today	12:41
PhinnFort	Darth_Homey: It's what I would call a "killer app";)	12:41
PhinnFort	with a big K	12:41
makuseru	PhinnFort: rm: cannot remove `/home/max/.kde/share/apps/amarok/': Is a directory	12:41
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PhinnFort	makuseru: "killall amarokapp -s KILL && rm -fdr ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/"	12:41
PhinnFort	sorry, forgot it was a dir;)	12:41
Darth_Homey	althought there isn't a lot of docs for it out there	12:42
makuseru	PhinnFort: ok, now what?	12:42
PhinnFort	Darth_Homey: why do you need docs for such an app;)	12:42
PhinnFort	?	12:42
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PhinnFort	makuseru: run amarok again, don't add any dir to the collection	12:42
makuseru	ok	12:42
PhinnFort	*dirs	12:42
nahemoth_	PhinnFort: and my "Knetwork Manager" shows that it's disconnected	12:43
Darth_Homey	PhinnFort: well i was wondering if there are any shortcuts for switching tabs	12:43
PhinnFort	Darth_Homey: shift left/right	12:43
makuseru	PhinnFort: my libary isnt there, but it still said it had no support	12:43
PhinnFort	Darth_Homey: and you can set it up, press the little downwards arrow to get the standard KDE settings menu	12:43
PhinnFort	nahemoth_: have you looked under the settings in smb4k?	12:43
PhinnFort	makuseru: what happens if you just close those messages?	12:44
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chx	Sometimes my keyboard just stops working. If I restart X , it works. This happens with PS/2 and USB and not specific to the keyboard. So I suspect some X bug or xorg.conf misconfigure. I run Kubuntu Feisty.	12:44
makuseru	PhinnFort: well im jsut getting one error now	12:44
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PhinnFort	makuseru: close amarok, and run this thing then: "killall amarokapp -s KILL && rm ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/ && rm ~/.kde/share/config/amarok*"	12:44
makuseru	it wont play mp3s	12:44
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Darth_Homey	PhinnFort: cool thanks, i was pressing al sorts of shortcuts, but this one seems to make sense :-)	12:45
PhinnFort	makuseru: then start amarok, don't add anything, but go to settings and look at what engine is selected	12:45
makuseru	rm: cannot remove `/home/max/.kde/share/apps/amarok/': Is a directory	12:45
PhinnFort	chx: file a bug	12:45
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PhinnFort	makuseru: obviously mean: "killall amarokapp -s KILL && rm -fdr ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/ && rm ~/.kde/share/config/amarok*"	12:45
PhinnFort	:P	12:46
chx	PhinnFort: so this is something not known?	12:46
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makuseru	lol	12:46
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PhinnFort	chx: well, it would've been fixed then, don't you think?;)	12:46
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chx	PhinnFort: During my two years with Ubuntu there have been at least half a dozen bugs which were only fixed 'later'	12:46
makuseru	PhinnFort: xine	12:47
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PhinnFort	makuseru: what settings?	12:47
beryl	cannot use alphabetic keys on alternate kubuntu installa in text mode	12:47
PhinnFort	makuseru: default and stuff?	12:47
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PhinnFort	makuseru: do a "dpkg -l \| grep xine" and paste the output, ok?	12:47
makuseru	alright	12:48
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PhinnFort	I think maybe you have some conflicting codecs/libraries	12:48
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makuseru	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22498/	12:48
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PhinnFort	danke	12:49
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PhinnFort	this is just weird...	12:50
PhinnFort	makuseru: can you try to play an mp3 file in Kaffeine?	12:51
PhinnFort	makuseru: also, maybe you could try to use the medibuntu repository;=	12:51
PhinnFort	we're back where I started;)	12:51
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PhinnFort	makuseru: medibuntu has their own patched amarok and xine	12:52
makuseru	whats the repo?	12:52
PhinnFort	one sec	12:52
PhinnFort	run "sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"	12:52
PhinnFort	wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- \| sudo apt-key add -	12:52
PhinnFort	and "sudo apt-get update"	12:52
PhinnFort	:D	12:52
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makuseru	ewwww	12:54
makuseru	ballmer	12:54
PhinnFort	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Fester	12:54
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PhinnFort	:P	12:54
Minataku	Yeah, but Fester kicked ass	12:54
Minataku	Ballmer just licks ass	12:54
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PhinnFort	and throws chairs	12:54
PhinnFort	I would say that is a bit kick ass	12:54
Minataku	Not really	12:54
Minataku	Doesn't take anyone special to throw a chair	12:55
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PhinnFort	Minataku: he has a certain groove to it, that noone can replicate	12:55
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Minataku	Now, it would have kicked ass if he threw the chair out the window then followed it	12:55
jmichaelx	bobby knight?	12:55
PhinnFort	Minataku: :P	12:55
PhinnFort	broken window	12:55
Etokura	How do I get kxdocker to run outside of a window?	12:56
beryl	cannot use alphabetic keys on alternate kubuntu install in text mode,letter keys wont work,so what to do?Download live image, nice job.	12:56
Minataku	Of an office on a high floor of Microsoft HQ	12:56
Etokura	I mean, it's running inside of a window now	12:56
Etokura	A window labeled "QT Sub-application"	12:56
PhinnFort	Etokura: stop using beryl	12:56
PhinnFort	:D	12:56
Minataku	Well, maybe he shouldn't DIE, nobody should have to die	12:57
Etokura	Then it's not transparent	12:57
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Minataku	But it definitely would have kicked ass if it hit something, bounced back and smacked him in the face	12:57
PhinnFort	Etokura: you should be able to tell beryl to not draw a window around it, but that's for #ubuntu-effects or something	12:57
jmichaelx	maybe this is OT, but what is the best method/program to use in ripping a DVD to a harddrive? I am using k9 copy right now, and it has been working on the same DVD for several hours..... surely there is a better way.	12:57
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PhinnFort	Minataku: how about sneaking in and replacing all normal, lightweight (I doubt he has much muscle mass) chairs with rubber chairs	12:58
PhinnFort	jmichaelx: look on kde-apps.org, there's to many to count;)	12:58
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Minataku	PhinnFort: I'd be putting tacks on his chair and poop in his desk drawers	12:58
PhinnFort	fake poop, I hope	12:58
jmichaelx	PhinnFort: do you have a method that you prefer?	12:58
Minataku	PhinnFort: No way	12:59
PhinnFort	jmichaelx: transcode	12:59
Minataku	Ballmer deserves the real thing	12:59
Minataku	Maybe even fresh from the mill	12:59
PhinnFort	jmichaelx: or use "dvd:/" or something similar in Konqueror	12:59
PhinnFort	jmichaelx: or K3B	12:59
PhinnFort	:D	12:59
PhinnFort	Minataku: ;)	12:59
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jmichaelx	doesn't k3b just do .iso rips?	12:59
PhinnFort	jmichaelx: nope	12:59
jmichaelx	i will look up transcode	12:59
PhinnFort	jmichaelx: the newest version does "real" ripping;)	12:59
jmichaelx	ahh	01:00
jmichaelx	ok, i will have to look at it again	01:00
PhinnFort	jmichaelx: I believe K3B uses transcode for the hard work itself	01:00
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jmichaelx	so ripping with k3b and transcode might get the job done in less that5 hours?	01:00
jmichaelx	that would be awesome	01:00
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PhinnFort	jmichaelx: I would think so;)	01:01
jmichaelx	lol, ty	01:01
PhinnFort	depends on your hardware though	01:01
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jmichaelx	the hardware should be alright for this	01:01
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PhinnFort	jmichaelx: also, be conservative with the settings	01:02
PhinnFort	;)	01:02
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cox377	does anyone here use gftp via command line?	01:04
PhinnFort	I use ncftp	01:05
PhinnFort	best ftp client on the planet	01:05
PhinnFort	!!info ncftp	01:05
ubotu	ncftp: A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.0-1 (feisty), package size 483 kB, installed size 1092 kB	01:05
ubotwo	ncftp - A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	01:05
cox377	PhinnFort: for command like?	01:05
cox377	line?	01:05
PhinnFort	yeah	01:05
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SilentDis	hello :)	01:05
satanko	holas	01:05
PhinnFort	!es \| satanko	01:05
ubotwo	satanko: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	01:05
satanko	no busco ayuda :(	01:06
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cox377	PhinnFort: are the commands simple enough?	01:06
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PhinnFort	cox377: very simple, and it's just overall very nice	01:06
LordDiabolus	scp! (keep it secure) :)	01:07
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PhinnFort	auto-completion, bookmarks, anything you can think of;)	01:07
SilentDis	aargh, please help me remember... I've got an NTFS formatted disk at /dev/sda1, i'd like to image it for archival purposes. I know I'll probably be using dd to do this... just can't remember the command format lol	01:07
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PhinnFort	i think ncftp supports sftp too	01:07
LordDiabolus	ahhh, cool	01:07
PhinnFort	SilentDis: mkfs?	01:07
PhinnFort	or cfdisk?	01:07
xGrantx	is there another way to autostart a program besides putting it in the KDE autostart folder?	01:07
SilentDis	PhinnFort: yes, i'll be reformatting the disk once i'm done, but I'd like to image it's contents first. i figured the easiest way is to create a disk image, then copy the files back over.	01:08
PhinnFort	xGrantx: you can choose to have KDE remember which apps are open with which documents when you close	01:08
PhinnFort	SilentDis: sounds ok	01:08
xGrantx	well one of my programs is starting twice for some reason	01:08
PhinnFort	SilentDis: but I would rather backup into a tar file	01:08
xGrantx	I don't know how to fix it	01:08
SilentDis	PhinnFort: ahh, that'll work too :)	01:08
PhinnFort	xGrantx: it could also be launched by kded	01:08
PhinnFort	xGrantx: check in the settings of the programs if you can set it to start automatically or not	01:09
PhinnFort	SilentDis: that way you can easily pack out the files on the new volume	01:09
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xGrantx	I asked the creators of the program and they said it doesn't autostart automatically	01:09
PhinnFort	xGrantx: it could be patched by Kubuntu maintainers	01:10
SilentDis	PhinnFort: yeah, that's easier. i keep getting 'stuck' in 'one way' of doing things, when there's just so many, much more easy, ways to do things. thanks :)	01:10
xGrantx	how do I check if "kded" is starting it?	01:10
PhinnFort	xGrantx: which app is it?	01:10
osiris	could you just start the app with your x session ?	01:10
xGrantx	kiba-dock	01:10
PhinnFort	SilentDis: ;)	01:10
osiris	nvm	01:10
PhinnFort	xGrantx: try asking in #kde	01:10
cox377	PhinnFort: do you know what the command is to upload a whole directory?	01:10
xGrantx	ok	01:10
PhinnFort	cox377: put -R I believe	01:10
PhinnFort	cox377: -R for recursive	01:11
cox377	put -R /xxx/xxx/xx	01:11
osiris	or just scp the whole dir	01:11
PhinnFort	scp is for whinnies	01:11
PhinnFort	:P	01:11
SilentDis	another dumb (at least for me) question... what's the command to check disk space from the term?	01:11
cox377	I'm doing this over ssh into the host machine, then from the host machines ftp'ing stuff to another machine	01:11
PhinnFort	SilentDis: df -h	01:11
SilentDis	PhinnFort: ty :)	01:11
PhinnFort	;)	01:11
PhinnFort	yw	01:11
cox377	PhinnFort: lol that's one i could answer.. about the only one	01:12
cox377	haha	01:12
cox377	;)	01:12
PhinnFort	:P	01:12
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cox377	PhinnFort: damn this is gonna take a long time, looked like your command was correct but it's 100gig of stuff only running @ 4mb/s	01:13
PhinnFort	heh	01:13
cox377	lol	01:13
PhinnFort	is it stable?	01:13
null	anyone here have experience with XBOXHDM?	01:13
cox377	PhinnFort: when you say stable??	01:13
PhinnFort	the line	01:13
PhinnFort	I don't think ncftp supports resuming of uploads	01:14
cox377	PhinnFort: it's over LAN, hopefully it will be alright	01:14
PhinnFort	ah, then it will propably be okay	01:14
SilentDis	96g of data being copied over a USB2 interface, this'll take a while. ty for the help all, take care!	01:14
PhinnFort	yw	01:15
cox377	PhinnFort: right gotta hit the sack	01:15
cox377	PhinnFort: night all	01:15
PhinnFort	gnight	01:15
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defcon_	any good site for ubuntu beta .deb's	01:16
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defcon_	betanews for ubuntu?	01:17
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Zeelot	helloooo	01:19
LordDiabolus	hey	01:19
LordDiabolus	defcon: you could always run gutsy :)	01:19
defcon_	LordDiabolus, whats the difference	01:19
defcon_	LordDiabolus, can I upgrade without reinstalling the os?	01:20
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Zeelot	is there anything I can use that is more efficient at mounting network drives than sshfs? when playing video files over the network I notice alot of lag	01:20
LordDiabolus	defcon: you can, but be warned it will be VERY unstable since everything will be beta.	01:20
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defcon_	what is the best way to check if your box has been compromised	01:21
LordDiabolus	defcon: I'm a command-line junkie, but I usually will "sudo tail /var/log/syslog" and "sudo tail /var/log/messages"	01:22
PF-Away	chkrootkit	01:22
LordDiabolus	that's good too, also check /tmp for any weird scripts, I've even seen them named as jpg before	01:23
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PF-Away	I usually clean out my /tmp every now and then	01:25
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Zeelot	anyone? I would really like it if it was possible without sending the file everytime as this is the storage server	01:26
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kane_	Zeelot: just mount it via samba or nfs	01:29
LordDiabolus	any knetworkmanager experts here?	01:29
kane_	depending on what the mount is exactly.	01:30
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kane_	they are internal network drives right?	01:30
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intelikey	did you know, # can't be used as a command (alias or function) ?	01:32
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Zeelot	internal yea	01:32
Zeelot	I need the most efficient	01:32
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kane_	Zeelot: what kind of filesystem is it?	01:33
kane_	ext3 or like an ntfs drive?	01:34
Zeelot	both are kubuntu systems ext3 partitions	01:34
kane_	mount it with nfs then.	01:34
Zeelot	and with that I can play videos without downloading?	01:34
kane_	right.	01:34
pastor	Unbelievable. I have been trying for a week to get my wireless to work, and today, i bought a cheap USB wireless device from Staples and "WAM" I'm online with no drivers.	01:34
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kane_	you just mount it in like /media/whatever	01:34
Zeelot	alright I'll try that thanks	01:34
kane_	and you play it like its a local file.	01:34
kane_	i mean they get downloaded eventually ofcourse, you know the bits have to go down the pipe to your screen in someway.	01:35
kane_	but its transperent to you that its happening and its not like it saves the file somewhere.	01:35
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Zeelot	right with ssh you have to download before playing it unless you use sshfs but that wasn't fast enough aparently to play them smoothly	01:36
kane_	ah, no none of that noise.	01:36
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keh7d	is there a channel specifically for networking probs?	01:38
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tgc0d3r	I am having trouble getting correct sound in my 5.1 speakers in Kubuntu Feisty. If I play a cd, for example, it will just be in the center speaker and you can faintly hear the music under very heavy static. Any info?	01:41
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BluesKaj	!network	01:41
ubotwo	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:41
tgc0d3r	it is a clean install so I haven't borked anything yet	01:42
BluesKaj	tgc0d3r, which player are you using ?	01:42
CraZy675	I'm setting up a backup shell script to prep for disaster recovery. First thing I want to back up in my amarok SQLite database, where do I find that?	01:42
tgc0d3r	well, I tried kaffeine to play the cd, but I also used that speaker-test command line app	01:42
BluesKaj	tgc0d3r, have you checked your levels and unmutes in alsamixer ?	01:43
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intelikey	i correct my self. # can indeed be a command but it has to be a file.	01:44
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CraZy675	everything is in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok right?	01:45
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tgc0d3r	yeah, I've tried unmuting everything, muting everything. The only thing that is needed to make any sound is the Audigy digital checked. beyond that I have no control except for the volume. but the volume is weird. using the master, the lower the volume is on screen, the louder in the speaker and vice versa. mega strange.	01:46
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BluesKaj	tgc0d3r, whoa...that's strange for sure ...ok systemsettings is set up for alsa in the sound module ?	01:48
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felzix	grr amarok. when I press skip song quickly, it attempts to loop forever. I generally have to hardboot to solve this	01:50
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CraZy675	felzix: you can't just use the sudo kill command?	01:50
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felzix	I can't open up any new terminals	01:51
CraZy675	ah	01:51
intelikey	another do nothing, if anyone wants to play with it... http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36880	01:51
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felzix	the ones already open weren't accepting input, either	01:51
felzix	I suppose that I could have just done control+alt+f1 and tried to kill it that way, though	01:52
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Zeelot	thanks kane_ ^_^ 1080p videos seem to be playing perfectly	01:52
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jmichaelx	hmmm k3b has been sitting at 27% on this DVD rip for over half an hour.....	01:53
intelikey	sounds like a problem	01:54
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tgc0d3r	BluesKaj: yep	01:56
CraZy675	how do I import my sqlite db to mysql for amarok?	01:56
CraZy675	oh nm google knows	01:56
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intelikey	how to test if a name has space in it ?	01:58
intelikey	will grep ' ' work ?	01:58
Zeelot	nm kane_ ...it actually lags badly every few minutes instead of lagging just a little bit but continually	02:01
Zeelot	I think I will invent in a gigabit switch for watching HD videos remotely, although 100mbit should still be plenty	02:02
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Zeelot	invest*	02:02
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JohnFlux_	!nvidia	02:05
ubotwo	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	02:05
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KevinAlaska	if a file starts with ._ does that mean its been deleted?	02:07
wolferine	grep '* *'	02:07
wolferine	maybe?	02:07
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KevinAlaska	I have some photos listed in my F-Stop program that start with ._IMG345.JPG for example but when you browse the directory with KDE they don't show. but if I do a ls in shell they dont show up but if I do a find command they show.	02:09
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kilrae_	KevinAlaska: files that start with . are "hidden" files	02:16
kilrae_	KevinAlaska: they won't show up with ls or in a file browser by default, try 'ls -a' instead	02:17
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mardi	can i just install grub with the live cd?	02:24
mardi	feisty	02:24
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Loco_Man	can anyone help me with networking in kubuntu?... it's not saving the settings...	02:26
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soulrider	!grub \| mardi	02:29
ubotwo	mardi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	02:29
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mardi	thanks soulrider	02:30
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s330d3r	hi, having an issue with connecting a usb drive to my laptop	02:44
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Minataku	s330d3r: Take the little cap off of it first	02:44
s330d3r	Minataku: LOL	02:44
Minataku	Heehee	02:44
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s330d3r	it is a hard drive, usb connector for my laptop	02:45
Minataku	What's up with it?	02:45
DarkED	hey guys, to get a list of how much space i have on each partition i do fdisk -l right?	02:46
s330d3r	it is formatted ntfs, and when i connect it, it does not map to anything, unlike my other usb pendrives with fat...	02:46
Minataku	DarkED: df -h	02:46
DarkED	Minataku: ahh thanks	02:46
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Minataku	DarkED: np	02:46
Minataku	s330d3r: Eeep, NTFS	02:46
s330d3r	lol	02:47
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Minataku	!ntfs	02:49
ubotwo	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse	02:49
Minataku	There ya go	02:49
Minataku	Took me a few to think of an answer before I remembered the bot has one	02:49
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Kr4t05	How well do Creative sound cards work with Linux?	03:00
kdepepo	I never got hibernate to work in linux... 3 machines, trying since it was advertised...	03:00
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kdepepo	maybe nvidia card is the problem...	03:00
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Minataku	I've gotten it to work on Solaris... granted I was also running it on an Ultra 2	03:05
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makuseru	how can i uninstall amarok to where its like i never had it installed in the first place? i thought a purge did that but then when i reinstalled it still had all my prefrences	03:07
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s330d3r	Minataku: thanks, looked at that help page, but not quite clear how I set it up to dynamically mount NTFS drives when they are attached via usb	03:08
Minataku	Heh, sorry, no idea there	03:09
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s330d3r	it must be possible, I can dynamically mount a fat fs device	03:10
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sergiu	how to set for kubuntu start-up program?	03:18
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Jucato	!autostar	03:20
ubotwo	Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/	03:20
Jucato	!autostart	03:20
ubotwo	To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.	03:20
Jucato	sergiu: ^^^^	03:21
sergiu	thanks	03:21
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zenekk	im naker	03:30
zenekk	d	03:30
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Zeelot	hellooo	03:39
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makuseru	hi, im having a problem with amarok, it says i dont have mp3 support, when i do..everything else plays mp3s, ive reinstalled amaokr nearly 9 times, but evertime i start it up it says i have no mp3 support, i have all my codecs and everything i dont know why its doing this, anyone know how to fix this?	03:39
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Zeelot	is it possible to connect to a windows remote desktop from linux?	03:39
Zeelot	makuseru: you dont have to reinstall anything, you have to configure it	03:40
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makuseru	huh?	03:41
Zeelot	try going to Settings -> Configure Amarok	03:41
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makuseru	and configure what?	03:41
Zeelot	then go to Engine and select ALSA, that would be the first thing I try	03:41
Jucato	makuseru: "everything else plays mp3s" what is everything else?	03:41
makuseru	all i have for engines is xine	03:42
Zeelot	Output Plugin	03:42
makuseru	Jucato: VLC. Kaffine, FF. etc	03:42
Jucato	hm... VLC will play mp3's regardless if you have installed the codecs for xine....	03:42
Jucato	not sure why amarok isn't playing though. can you check if amarok is using the correct engine?	03:42
makuseru	well Kaffine, Totem, etc	03:42
makuseru	amarok has been fine	03:42
makuseru	untill this morning	03:43
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makuseru	it just stated spitting errors at me	03:43
Jucato	Totem doesn't use xine...	03:43
Zeelot	what errors?	03:43
Jucato	and is Kaffeine set to use xine?	03:43
makuseru	it says "no mp3 support" and then when i try to populate the playlist it says "some media could not be loaded (not playable)"	03:44
makuseru	Jucato: lemme check	03:44
Jucato	makuseru: double check if "libxine-extracodecs" or libxine1-ffmpeg (feisty) is installed	03:44
makuseru	yes	03:45
makuseru	they are all installed	03:45
makuseru	ive reinstalled all multimedia codecs i have	03:45
makuseru	this has to just be a amarok problem	03:45
DrX	can anyone help me get Thunderbird working with (ahem) Exchange (it says "Connection to server <server.domain.com> timed out)?	03:45
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EightiesK	!Xserver	03:46
ubotwo	Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/	03:46
makuseru	well	03:46
EightiesK	!xserver	03:46
makuseru	i retract my statement	03:46
makuseru	it now wont play mp3's	03:46
makuseru	and i get this error	03:46
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makuseru	xine: couldn't find demux	03:46
EightiesK	ne1 know how i reconfigure my graphic card?	03:47
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EightiesK	i think its apt-get -r xserver-org	03:47
Zeelot	EightiesK: ati or nvidia?	03:47
EightiesK	neither	03:47
EightiesK	its in my toshibia laptop	03:48
Zeelot	so what is it?	03:48
EightiesK	i had to do the same for my dell laptop.	03:48
EightiesK	intel	03:48
EightiesK	it won't config right	03:48
EightiesK	i need to use a vesa driver...	03:48
EightiesK	!vesa	03:49
ubotwo	vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x	03:49
EightiesK	!x	03:49
ubotwo	The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto	03:49
EightiesK	nm that fixes it	03:49
Jucato	!xconfig	03:49
ubotwo	To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - To configure only the driver and resolution, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh - See also !FixRes	03:49
makuseru	Jucato: any ideas?	03:49
Jucato	makuseru: hm.. no.. sorry :(	03:49
makuseru	what other codecs do mp3s?	03:50
Jucato	for xine? none	03:51
makuseru	could i use a diffrent engine that xine?	03:52
Jucato	for amarok? no	03:52
Jucato	you could try asking in #amarok	03:52
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Zeelot	they should be able to fix the problem...I use XMMS myself, I dont like how amarok lists the collection	03:53
Jucato	hard to fix problems/bugs that are irreproducible :/	03:54
Zeelot	so does anyone know how I can connect to windows Remote Desktop from linux? is it even possible?	03:54
Zeelot	I'm sure someone in the amarok channel knows more about the application than us	03:55
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Jucato	the problem is whether they're awake or in :)	03:55
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Zeelot	yea might take a while then =P I've been in the kaffeine channel for about a week for a question lol I never catch them while they're online	03:56
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carutsu	hello, I've just bought a laptop a Centrino Duo, what architecture should i pick?	04:11
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kdepepo	intel	04:12
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j1tters	hey all. anyone available to help me with a really stupid question?	04:12
carutsu	kdepepo: isnt it a X86_64?	04:12
kdepepo	yes	04:12
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carutsu	kdepepo: so no 64 bits for that?	04:13
Daisuke_Ido	carutsu: use the 32-bit version unless you have 4gb of ram	04:13
j1tters	microsoft 4 button usb optical mouse. i need to make it work. used the the left hand thumb click button as the back button on my firefox? any ideas.	04:13
j1tters	i know its dumb.	04:13
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carutsu	Daisuke_Ido: no i don't have 4GB, i though there were optimized compilations for 64bits but ok	04:14
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j1tters	and i have a second even dumber question then.	04:14
Daisuke_Ido	carutsu: there are some things that still don't play nice with 64 bit	04:15
j1tters	flash.....	04:15
Zeelot	gordon?	04:15
j1tters	hardly funny. thanks zeelot. hehe	04:16
Zeelot	no prob	04:16
carutsu	Daisuke_Ido: ok, although i'll be wasting half my cpu power	04:16
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j1tters	glad to see humor is still alive and well on irc. :)	04:16
Zeelot	!>_<!	04:16
j1tters	so can anyone help?	04:17
Daisuke_Ido	you'll be wasting what?	04:17
kdepepo	64 bit programs actually may be slower than 32 bit ones, because many data structures are just twice as big without a need.	04:17
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Daisuke_Ido	you'll be wasting register space	04:17
Daisuke_Ido	but that's it	04:17
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carutsu	Daisuke_Ido, kdepepo: i see... it's not what i though... should've asked before buying, oh well	04:18
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kdepepo	carutsu, core duo is still better... it has two cores :)	04:19
Zeelot	all cpus are 64bit now so you couldn't have made a better choice	04:19
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carutsu	Zeelot: thenks	04:19
Daisuke_Ido	carutsu: it's just a matter of software catching up to the technology	04:19
Daisuke_Ido	you're prepared for the future, sort of :D	04:19
carutsu	kdepepo: hehe, ok, I'll optimize boot time, i've heard of that	04:19
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carutsu	Daisuke_Ido: xD the change will come sooner or later just like 32 bits came	04:20
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kdepepo	carutsu, well... boot time not really, because hard disks are slow. But anything which makes use of multiple cores, such as "make -j 4" will work faster :)	04:20
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carutsu	kdepepo: I've heard i can activate paralel boot, mmm, i dont remember how it was called, but has something like that	04:21
carutsu	concurrency boot, something like that	04:21
kdepepo	carutsu, ah you mean the new init	04:22
kdepepo	yes, that may be faster	04:22
carutsu	kdepepo: er im not sure, you tell me, xDDD	04:22
Zeelot	lol	04:22
Zeelot	it's faster.	04:22
Zeelot	Don't worry about it =P	04:22
carutsu	that's good although Feisty is the fastest distro I've used (not too mny anyway) Windows still boots faster	04:23
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Zeelot	well depends what is booting I guess	04:23
kdepepo	Its a common problem... people tend to love slow software. OpenOffice boots like a dog.	04:24
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Daisuke_Ido	windows appears to boot faster because your desktop's up and sort of available before everything's loaded	04:24
carutsu	kdepepo: if and only if you dont change the memory assigned to it	04:24
carutsu	kdepepo: i changed it and wow, it's just a breeze	04:24
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Zeelot	in linux or windows?	04:25
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carutsu	Daisuke_Ido: well yes that's right and you need to deal with a slow and quisrky pc untill it finish loading	04:25
Daisuke_Ido	and it's possible to stramline the linux boot... but since i rarely reboot (only when i have no choice), it doesn't bother me	04:25
carutsu	Zeelot: in linux	04:25
makuseru	!xine	04:25
ubotwo	Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/	04:25
Zeelot	aha	04:25
carutsu	Zeelot: I haven't used windows in a while	04:26
Zeelot	carutsu: how did you do that =P	04:26
carutsu	Daisuke_Ido: well i do reboot, this is a laptop	04:26
Daisuke_Ido	carutsu: point taken :)	04:26
carutsu	Zeelot, mmm, wait	04:26
Zambezi	I found a bug in ktorrent that made it crash. Which is the best way to report it?	04:26
Daisuke_Ido	hibernation not working properly?	04:26
kdepepo	you could use hibernate, but I dont know if it yet works with linux.	04:26
Zeelot	I never use that for some reason heh	04:27
carutsu	Daisuke_Ido: well no sometimes the pad or the keyboard cant be used after hibernation	04:27
kdepepo	Zambezi, ktorrent 2.1.4 ?	04:27
Daisuke_Ido	ooh :\	04:27
Daisuke_Ido	i don't use a laptop very often	04:27
carutsu	Zeelot: sorry the article is in spanish, but i'll tell you what i did	04:28
Zeelot	my laptop boots in a minute or two I really dont mind waiting	04:28
carutsu	Zeelot: mine in a minute at most	04:28
Zeelot	yea about that	04:28
carutsu	ok, go to Tools>Options>Workspace memory (or work memory is in spanish not sure)	04:29
Zambezi	kdepepo, I have to check.	04:29
Zeelot	in open office yes?	04:29
carutsu	Zeelot: yes	04:29
Zeelot	opening it 1 sec heh	04:29
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victor__	qquit	04:29
carutsu	You can cache it, actually it gets like 4 MB change it i assigned it 64MB and 10MB per objet	04:29
Zambezi	kdepepo, 2.1.4 yes.	04:29
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carutsu	Zeelot: and is quite nice now	04:30
Zeelot	I dont have Workspace	04:30
kdepepo	Zambezi, http://bugs.kde.org	04:30
carutsu	mmm, memory?	04:30
Zeelot	on the left in Options it's not there	04:30
Zeelot	memory yes	04:30
carutsu	wait	04:30
carutsu	there	04:30
osiris	Zambezi, what makes itt crash	04:31
carutsu	there you can pick how many steps to undo and that kind of thing	04:31
carutsu	thing	04:31
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carutsu	XD well you got it	04:31
Zeelot	so I want to undo less to make it perform better right? =P	04:31
Zeelot	who ever undos 100 steps >_<	04:32
carutsu	Zeelot: well it should use less memory	04:32
carutsu	Zeelot: i didnt change that thogh	04:32
CraZy675	I'm running the live cd and trying to configure the display before I install, but I find the system settings confusing	04:32
CraZy675	my monitor should run at 1680x1050	04:32
Zeelot	alright thanks carutsu	04:32
Zambezi	osiris, I'll tell you after the report. :-P	04:32
CraZy675	but its running 1024x768	04:32
carutsu	Zeelot: no problem, it should feels faster in a couple of boots	04:33
Zeelot	alright	04:33
Zeelot	and I can read spanish btw =P but it would have taken me a bit to understand	04:33
osiris	Zambezi, brb. rebooting	04:33
CraZy675	my monitor is not listed under brands so I clicked on generic lcd 1680x1050	04:33
Zeelot	isn't it simpler to install the OS first and then install video drivers and configure monitor together?	04:34
CraZy675	Zeelot: I'm not sure for 6.10 everything was just recognized and worked	04:35
Zeelot	I don't even know if doing it on the live cd will work at all	04:35
Zeelot	as those are all temporary files?	04:35
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CraZy675	where do I find the config file again?	04:36
CraZy675	i can copy it from my 6.10 install	04:36
Jucato	/etc/X11/xorg.conf	04:36
Zeelot	mine is listed as generic too, that should not matter aslong as you set the res to something the monitor can handle and the refresh rates too	04:36
Jucato	?	04:36
CraZy675	thats the one	04:37
Zeelot	yea	04:37
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makuseru	hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/	04:40
jmichaelx	i am TRYING to rip a DVD to my harddrive with k3b... it has been at it now for 3.5 hours, and is at 45%. is there a better/faster way of doing this?a setting i need to change?	04:41
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makuseru	what speed are you ripping at	04:42
manwithaface	you might try kiso	04:42
jmichaelx	good question... i do not even know lol	04:42
manwithaface	i am just now playing with it myself, so I am no expert	04:42
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jmichaelx	ok, i will try to check out kiso... as well as my speed setting in K3B	04:43
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carutsu	kiso?	04:43
carutsu	!kiso	04:43
ubotwo	kiso - program to create manipulate and extract CD Image - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	04:43
osiris	did you install libdvdcss2 ? did you install k3b dvd plugin ?	04:43
carutsu	i rather k3b xD	04:43
manwithaface	it is feisty too	04:43
jmichaelx	osiris: dvdcss2 i certainly have.... the dvd plugin i am not sure, but i will assume so at this point...	04:44
manwithaface	dvds in US is frowned upon	04:45
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makuseru	hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/	04:49
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draik	!wine	04:50
ubotwo	wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.	04:50
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osiris	makuseru, try apt-cache search xine \| grep xine	04:50
osiris	find the exact package name	04:50
osiris	or sudo apt-get install gxine	04:50
Jucato	makuseru: there really isn't any "xine" package	04:50
manwithaface	what are you trying to install that requires xine?	04:51
manwithaface	!xine	04:51
ubotwo	Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/	04:51
CraZy675	alright so I should install the os before I get the display working correctly	04:51
Jucato	!info libxine1	04:51
ubotwo	libxine1 - the xine video/media player library, binary files - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	04:51
Zambezi	osiris, ktorrent crasched after an attempt to save files to a non existing location (a removed harddrive).	04:52
CraZy675	Anything I should do with the live cd before I install?	04:52
manwithaface	crazy675: try the default first	04:52
manwithaface	what type of display do you have?	04:53
CraZy675	monitor or video card?	04:53
osiris	Zambezi, just any old non existant mount point ? or a location that is unmounted	04:53
manwithaface	monitor	04:53
manwithaface	well, both	04:53
CraZy675	my monitor is an acer al2216w 1680x1050	04:53
draik	!divx	04:53
ubotwo	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	04:53
CraZy675	and i have an ati all-in-wonder ve	04:53
manwithaface	i would try the default, you might not get full resolution though	04:54
Zambezi	osiris, An existing mountpoint, but to a harddrive I removed. ktorrent crashes after clicking okay on the errormessages.	04:54
CraZy675	yea I'm going for full resolution as it worked in 6.10	04:54
osiris	have you tried pointing it at a write p[rotected directory ?	04:54
Zambezi	osiris, No. I changed the rights on the folder.	04:55
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manwithaface	you might have to tweak it after install	04:55
CraZy675	I think I'm just going to install then work from there	04:55
CraZy675	yea	04:55
CraZy675	thanks see you in a bit	04:55
icecruncher	Y	04:55
EightiesK	is there anyway for me to read my windows Contents using a live cd...	04:55
Zambezi	osiris, I didn't have problem using it before I removed it cause it was really slow. I thinks it's about giving up.	04:56
EightiesK	everytime i try to mount it it tells me i don't have enough permisisions	04:56
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carutsu	isnt there a way to make more points in the processor scalling? right now is 1000 or 2000 MHz, but id like to have it say, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000	04:56
ardchoille	EightiesK: Are you using sudo to mount it?	04:56
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Zambezi	osiris, Didn't have problem with *ktorrent, just the harddrive.	04:56
osiris	EightiesK, make a mount point, and mount the partition	04:56
osiris	ah	04:56
EightiesK	no the boot manager.	04:56
EightiesK	windows won't open n i wanna back it all up...	04:57
EightiesK	i use windows on my computer but i'm fixing a friends laptop n he wants his stuff	04:57
Zambezi	osiris, I'm going to try a thing now.	04:57
manwithaface	if windows is broke, trying to boot into it won't get you far	04:57
EightiesK	i use kubuntu as well...	04:57
EightiesK	i want to use kubuntu to burn his info to cds.	04:58
osiris	its possible to rescue the data before a format	04:58
osiris	i have done it from a liveCD before	04:58
manwithaface	eightiesk: just the files, nothing fancy?	04:58
ardchoille	EightiesK: What is the mount command you are using?	04:58
osiris	just need 2 cd/burner drives	04:58
EightiesK	i'm just enabling it to media/win	04:58
EightiesK	but it won't let me open the folder.	04:59
manwithaface	you'll have to do that as root	04:59
EightiesK	how?	04:59
osiris	sudo su	04:59
EightiesK	ok	04:59
EightiesK	whats the best way to mount something ?	05:00
ardchoille	EightiesK: You have to use sudo to mount the volume on /media/win. I don't know the mount command for Windows because I haven't used win since 2001, but: sudo mount <options> /dev/device /media/win	05:00
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Zambezi	osiris, This is odd. I made a folder, changed the settings to save the torrents in it, deleted the folder, opened a torrent, saved it, got the errormessages, clicked okay - no crash.	05:00
manwithaface	eightiesk: what format is the windows partition?	05:00
manwithaface	fat32 or ntfs?	05:00
EightiesK	ntfs	05:01
ardchoille	manwithaface: He just wants to read, not write	05:01
EightiesK	i'm guessing	05:01
manwithaface	true	05:01
carutsu	isnt there a way to make more points in the processor scalling? right now is 1000 or 2000 MHz, but id like to have it say, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000	05:01
carutsu	last time i post, promized, hehe	05:01
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manwithaface	eightiesk: the way I do it is sudo nano (or kate for a GUI) /etc/fstab	05:02
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ardchoille	It should be kdesu kate, not sudo	05:02
ardchoille	!kdesu	05:02
ubotwo	In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do not use sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo	05:02
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EightiesK	Can't connect to xserver	05:03
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manwithaface	then you will add a new entry looking like so: /dev/hdaX /media/win ntfs defaults 0 0	05:04
manwithaface	just do sudo nano. its command line, but its not too differnant. Your just dealing with text	05:04
EightiesK	what about in system settings	05:04
draik	Anyone here know how I can get a DivX player for firefox?	05:05
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draik	I can't seem to install/upgrade mozilla-mplayer	05:05
manwithaface	eightiesk: i don't know of a way to do it through there	05:05
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manwithaface	btw, where hdaX is is that partition of the hard drive	05:06
EightiesK	do u know a way to run the file system from root?	05:07
manwithaface	file system? do you mean konqueror?	05:07
EightiesK	ya	05:07
carutsu	I'm installing kubuntu in another laptop however it seems ntfs resizer it's stuck, however system shows it is not inactive, have been runing for at least 5 minutes and hasn't showed any advances	05:07
carutsu	should i kill it? is there a risk?	05:07
manwithaface	kdesu konqueror	05:07
watcher	i just had that when installing it onto my computer, i ended up using a different partition, probably is a way round it but im a complete noob	05:08
manwithaface	carutsu: anytime you kill something in formating, resizing, there is a risk	05:08
ardchoille	EightiesK: kdesu kfmclient exec /	05:08
EightiesK	refused by xserver...	05:08
manwithaface	your xserver doesn't like you	05:08
ardchoille	lol	05:08
carutsu	manwithaface: mmm it shouws that system% is only 6-9.00	05:09
makuseru	hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/ (amarok says The xine-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.)	05:09
EightiesK	...	05:09
manwithaface	6-9.00?	05:09
carutsu	thank goodness i didnt kill it, it was working	05:09
EightiesK	no good...	05:09
^RiaN^	!seen Timgroe	05:09
EightiesK	!recover	05:10
manwithaface	eightiesk: what do you need root filesystem for?	05:10
ubotwo	recover - Undelete files on ext2 partitions - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	05:10
ubotwo	I last saw TimGroe (n=TimGroe@202.172.122.211) 12h 4m 31s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection	05:10
EightiesK	it still says i don't have proper permissions	05:10
manwithaface	did the partition mount?	05:10
EightiesK	yes	05:10
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manwithaface	excellent	05:10
manwithaface	try sudo konqueror	05:10
manwithaface	i know it is frowned upon, but if the other method fails, what options have you?	05:11
EightiesK	no good... :-/ x server again...	05:12
manwithaface	hmm	05:12
manwithaface	blasted thing	05:12
manwithaface	you are on a live cd?	05:12
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manwithaface	how big of a partition are you burning to a CD?	05:13
manwithaface	wait, eightiesk: are you still in sudo su?	05:14
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manwithaface	on your konsole is it root@hostname?	05:14
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redfive	what are all these kde upgrades	05:14
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^RiaN^	someone here use crossover	05:15
makuseru	hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/ (amarok says The xine-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.)	05:15
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manwithaface	makuseru: do you have an mp3 decoder?	05:15
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manwithaface	such as LAME?	05:15
makuseru	how do i check	05:15
manwithaface	on amarok, if you can't play them, it should pop up a nice little window with Install MP3 Support	05:16
manwithaface	!lame	05:16
ubotwo	lame - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	05:16
manwithaface	try and play an mp3	05:16
makuseru	the "install mp3 support" never works for me	05:16
twstokes	sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg	05:17
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twstokes	That will get MP3's in Amarok	05:17
makuseru	i have it	05:17
^RiaN^	manwithaface: what software to use for internet radio	05:17
manwithaface	what internet radio?	05:17
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manwithaface	amarok can catch streams and play them, but idk what that has to do with crossover	05:18
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Zeelot	hey guys, do I have to run beryl with xgl? I get no window frames out of xgl	05:19
^RiaN^	i see	05:19
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carutsu	Zeelot: as far as i know XGL is only a layer for the other programs to do the work, yo do have to enable a window manager	05:19
carutsu	!XGL\|Zeelot	05:19
ubotwo	eelot: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects	05:20
manwithaface	eightiesk: still with us?	05:20
Zeelot	I want to remove XGL	05:20
Zeelot	I only want beryl on the regular x11	05:20
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Zeelot	!beryl	05:21
ubotwo	Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects	05:21
twstokes	You have to have XGL to run Beryl	05:21
Zeelot	you are sure? is this just for ubuntu then? because I had it in debian that way	05:22
Zeelot	o_o	05:22
dennister	hey ppl...getting really frsutrated here because i did have flash working well in feisty, and then all of a sudden I don't get any sound with the flash videos...any ideas? I've already purged firefox and reinstalled	05:22
twstokes	Zeelot - I believe all distros need XGL to run Beryl / Compiz	05:23
carutsu	Zeelot: cant run only beryl, X has no acelerated graphics support via OpenGL, that's what XGL is for	05:23
hitmanWilly	dennister: try killing the kde sound system, sometimes that conflicts	05:23
hitmanWilly	Zeelot: actually, are you running ati or nvidia?	05:23
Zeelot	nvidia	05:23
Zeelot	I have beryl running now, the only problem is the window frames vanished	05:23
dennister	hitmanWilly: kde sound server was killed b4, i just got it started again, still no improvement	05:23
Zeelot	they only appear with xgl	05:23
carutsu	dennister: mmmm, haven't you touched alsa? just to make sure	05:23
twstokes	Try reloading your window manager with Beryl-Manager	05:24
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hitmanWilly	Zeelot: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx visuals	05:24
twstokes	Make sure Emerald is selected	05:24
Zeelot	did	05:24
carutsu	yep, twstokes said it first	05:24
dennister	i was struggling with alsa awhile ago, and that's when I turned sound server off	05:24
hitmanWilly	Zeelot: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals	05:24
Zeelot	alright	05:24
carutsu	dennister: er, im not quite good with alsa, do you have any other problems?	05:25
carutsu	say with Amarok	05:25
carutsu	dennister: check the volume levels with alsamixer	05:25
hitmanWilly	Zeelot: you don't need XGL for an nvidia card, aiglx (built in) works fine, or it can render directly via the nvidia driver	05:25
dennister	volume levels are fine...and the nonfree flash is the only plugin i've installed so far with the reinstallation of firefox	05:26
hitmanWilly	Zeelot: you do need argb-glx visuals enabled, tho	05:26
dennister	other sound is fine...just not with flash videos	05:26
carutsu	dennister: installed how was it guys moz-nonfree? or something is flash but tweaked for firefox	05:26
Zeelot	just did, I will be right back	05:26
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hitmanWilly	flashplugin-nonfree is the pkg	05:27
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dennister	& flashplugin-nonfree is what i have...i get the video fine, just no sound	05:27
ubotwo	dennister: Error: "flashplugin-nonfree" is not a valid command.	05:27
carutsu	hitmanWilly: yes but the firefox version	05:27
carutsu	dennister: wait	05:27
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hitmanWilly	there's a firefox specific one? didn't know that...	05:28
carutsu	hitmanWilly: not exactly is a patch for firefox, im not sure how to call it	05:28
hitmanWilly	oh, ok	05:28
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dennister	is it libflash-mozplugin?	05:30
carutsu	dennister: i think that is, I'm not sure, i couldnt find it	05:30
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dennister	well i'll try it	05:31
Zeelot	that worked thanks	05:32
hitmanWilly	Zeelot: took me forever to find that one on the web, figured id save you some trouble :)	05:33
bbeck_	Does anyone know how to enable spell checking in Kopete?	05:33
n8k99	bbeck_: right click in the text entry field	05:34
twstokes	I found that if you click the little "Pencil" and take it out of Rich Text mode it will do spell checking	05:34
dennister	great...firefox just crashed :(	05:34
Zeelot	yea I googled beryl + nvidia the first time that's why I had beryl without xgl on debian	05:34
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Zeelot	and for some reason I stumbled onto the beryl + xgl pages when I was on kubuntu	05:35
hitmanWilly	Zeelot: nvidia cards are a lot less of a headache in nix	05:35
Zeelot	yea for sure	05:35
bbeck_	n8k99: thanks	05:35
Zeelot	I keep my ATI computers with freebsd and no gui =P	05:35
hitmanWilly	lol	05:36
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hitmanWilly	i even set up nvidia on a gentoo box with no trouble...that's user friendly right there :P	05:36
Zeelot	haha	05:36
n8k99	welcome bbeck_	05:36
twstokes	I was surprised recently though how much better the ATI drivers are now with XGL / Beryl	05:37
twstokes	I could run it on my laptop with an x300 and it would do really well	05:37
Zeelot	yea my laptop has an ATI and I run suse on it	05:37
Zeelot	decently well	05:37
Zeelot	might just put freebsd in there too >_<	05:38
hitmanWilly	twstokes: yeah, but its hit or miss most of the time, different cards, different results	05:38
dennister	ok...libflash-mozplugin is definitely a problem...as soon as I installed it, firefox crashed, loaded it again, tried to access a video on youtube, and i couldn't even see the video...now that I uninstalled it again, at least I'm seeing the viedo...but still no sound	05:38
twstokes	Right, I know. I just remember not too long ago my laptop would go nuts with the fans when running Beryl.	05:38
twstokes	Now it hardly taxes the CPU at all.	05:38
dennister	so stay away from libflash-mozplugin folks :)	05:38
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dennister	everyone given up on my flash-sound prob?	05:44
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Captain_Haddock	I have two PCs - one x86 and another x86_64 - both running ubuntu. When I update packages on the 32 bit box, can I share the apt cache as a local repository for the 64 bit box? Will the 64 bit box be able to differentiate between 32 bit and 64 bit packages?	05:45
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hitmanWilly	Captain_Haddock: yes, they should be able too	05:45
hitmanWilly	Captain_Haddock: debs are labeled with the architecture type req'd	05:46
Captain_Haddock	hitmanWilly: Cheers, I'll give it a shot then :)	05:46
dennister	k...gonna see if i can't get it working wtih gnome...cyas folks	05:46
hitmanWilly	Captain_Haddock: worst case scenario it won't install them anyway, at least not without the --force option	05:47
Captain_Haddock	Good good :)	05:47
dr_willis	i can normally get nvidia and ati both working on my 2 linux boxs in just a few min. Not too hard. but the fact is it often CAN be a pain :(	05:48
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carutsu	In 2 of my laptops i always get an error X Error: Bad DEvice, Invalid input device 169	05:49
Captain_Haddock	hitmanWilly: I think I'm just going to copy over all the debs with the _all suffix and take it from there.	05:49
Captain_Haddock	Thanks dude	05:49
carutsu	any clues?	05:49
hitmanWilly	np :)	05:49
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bbeck_	Does anyone have any experience installing Kubuntu on a Lenovo/IBM T61? I'm thinking of purchasing a laptop, and I really like that particular one, but I would hate to spend money on something that doesn't completely work.	05:51
makuseru	hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/ (amarok says The xine-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.)	05:51
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hitmanWilly	makuseru: i think the package you need is libxine and libxine-extracodecs for amarok to work	05:54
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CraZy675	The monitors work as soon as I installed kubuntu	05:55
CraZy675	just didn't work on the live cd for some reason	05:55
makuseru	hitmanWilly: no package as libxine and i have the otger	05:55
makuseru	other*	05:55
hitmanWilly	makuseru: try xine-ui	05:55
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hitmanWilly	makuseru: that's the whole player, so the engine comes with it :)	05:56
makuseru	i have that	05:56
hitmanWilly	makuseru: then xine's installed. what exactly is the problem?	05:57
hitmanWilly	makuseru: mp3 issues?	05:57
makuseru	yes	05:57
david2	nvidia 64 bit drivers install 32 bit libs as well?	05:57
hitmanWilly	!mp3 \| makuseru	05:57
ubotwo	makuseru: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	05:57
makuseru	hitmanwilly, would you like to do a remote desktop to see if you can help me?	05:57
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david2	anyone know?	05:58
hitmanWilly	makuseru: sorry, don't have vnc set up...see the link from ubotu	05:58
makuseru	no help there	05:58
makuseru	that was the first thing i went to	05:58
hitmanWilly	david2: yes, for 32 bit emulation in apps	05:58
david2	would any lib32 package in apt over write any of nvidia's	05:59
david2	??	05:59
hitmanWilly	makuseru: do you have w32codecs installed?	05:59
makuseru	yes, got them from automatix	05:59
hitmanWilly	david2: i don't believe so	05:59
david2	Never winter Nights segfaults	05:59
david2	and as far as I can tell, it is using the 32 bit libs	06:00
hitmanWilly	makuseru: try enabling the medibuntu repos and get them from there	06:00
hitmanWilly	david2: issues like those are why i went to a 32 bit version :)	06:00
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david2	I dont have a free partition to do 32 bit	06:01
david2	otherwise I'd consider it	06:01
david2	Works on my crappier computer	06:01
hitmanWilly	david2: honestly, i really don't know, could be one of a million things	06:01
david2	nvidia fx 5200	06:02
david2	like 512 g on ram	06:02
david2	slow very slow	06:02
david2	bummer	06:02
hitmanWilly	david2: ubuntu 64 doesn't play well with 32 bit apps	06:02
david2	So I am seeing that	06:02
david2	may have to wipe it and install gentoo :(!	06:03
hitmanWilly	david2: there's always the option of setting up a 32 bit chroot, but that's a serious PITA	06:03
david2	Yeah work	06:03
carutsu	wow, i've visited a website which uses flash, imediatly i was asked if i wanted to install macromedia player, amazingly it was with konqueror	06:03
david2	damn so how bad do I want to play this game?	06:04
david2	well I'll sleep on it	06:05
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dr_willis	carutsu, id be more amazed if it worked that way. :)	06:05
carutsu	dr_willis: it actually worked	06:05
david2	the NWN forums are pretty disorganized	06:05
dr_willis	carutsu, i never have had that work.	06:06
carutsu	dr_willis: I'm playing now	06:06
dr_willis	NWN is pretty diorganized :)	06:06
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flake	why do the certificates not match the website, like wiki.kubuntu.com/.. ?	06:07
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flake	firefox gives me that warning	06:07
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hitmanWilly	flake: seems fine to me...	06:09
carutsu	why is gcc in restricted extras?	06:09
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carutsu	!gcc	06:10
ubotwo	Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)	06:10
hitmanWilly	carutsu: it comes with build-essential	06:11
hitmanWilly	s/with/in	06:11
flake	ack.. can't install webmail or hotmail cause it aint compatible with firefox	06:12
carutsu	mmm, i cant set my resolution higher than 1280x800 although im sure in XP i had 1440	06:12
flake	mozilla-firefox	06:13
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hitmanWilly	flake: you do realize that hotmail is M$, right? seriously doubt they were worried about that...:P	06:13
antuan	hello everybody	06:14
flake	true, i have yahoo account too, hate having to use browser for mail	06:14
antuan	how are you	06:14
carutsu	flake: you cant install what?	06:14
flake	webmail for firefox	06:14
antuan	>.>	06:14
carutsu	flake: webmail is for thunderbird	06:14
antuan	<.<	06:14
antuan	em em	06:14
flake	right, but trying to install thru firefox	06:14
antuan	viva Mexico???	06:15
flake	do i save to file and install thru thunderbird?	06:15
carutsu	flake: firefox whants to install it, save it to disk	06:15
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carutsu	flake: cant be installed thru firefox	06:15
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carutsu	antuan: xD why?	06:15
antuan	^^	06:15
antuan	because Im a Mexican boy	06:16
antuan	yeah!!	06:16
ubuntu_	hi, im on a live cd trying to resize a partition, and im using qtparted, i right click on a partiton and resize is greyed out, how can i fiz this?	06:16
jontec	a cut and paste of a large file across the network failed (samba). Is there anyway to retrieve the temporary file (if it exists, I just copied 699MB too)	06:16
ubuntu_	fix*	06:16
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hitmanWilly	ubuntu_: are you running it with kdesu?	06:16
ubuntu_	no im not, lemme go do that	06:17
carutsu	antuan: estee yo tambien vivo en Mexico jajaja!	06:17
antuan	hu???	06:17
carutsu	antuan: cat speak too much spanish before they get mad though, xD	06:17
jontec	ubuntu_: I HATE qtparted. I'd much rather just wait (I'm on dial-up) to install gparted	06:17
ubuntu_	whats the difference?	06:17
antuan	jajaja	06:17
dr_willis	ubuntu_, depending on the partiion layout/type it may not be doable thus the greyibng out	06:17
antuan	paisano como os va	06:18
jontec	ubuntu_: i.e. adept > install gparted	06:18
ubuntu_	im on a live cd	06:18
dr_willis	:)	06:18
dr_willis	There is a gparted live cd - 50mb thats nice tool to have	06:18
flake	cool, thanks. I'm glad I asked	06:18
jontec	ubuntu_: qtparted, for me... only allows me to do one thing to a drive. O_o, but I'm amd64, it might just be a bug (but it's been in both 6.06 and 7.04 :S)	06:18
ubuntu_	whats that difference between qtparted and gparted?	06:18
ubuntu_	doing it kdesu didnt change anything, im only able to resize the swap partition	06:19
carutsu	qtparted = made with qt	06:19
jontec	ubuntu_: gparted uses gnome, qtparted uses the qt (KDE is based on this) windowing tool (terminology check)	06:19
carutsu	ubuntu_: gparted= made with GTK	06:19
hitmanWilly	ubuntu_: different apps to do the same thing, gparted tend to work better imho	06:19
carutsu	hitmanWilly: work better?	06:20
hitmanWilly	ubuntu_: or fdisk :P	06:20
jontec	yeah, I'm usually K all the way, but gparted just works.	06:20
CraZy675	macromedia's site is sooo slow	06:20
ubuntu_	well how can i resize this partition	06:20
hitmanWilly	i've had qtparted crash on me before, and that's NOT something i want in a disk partitioner :)	06:21
carutsu	I've installed "Restricted Extras" However I still can't play mp3 files	06:21
ubuntu_	ok ok ok, stop arguing about what is better, how can i resize my partition	06:21
jontec	ubuntu_: what is it listed as? Is it "unknown" or "free space"?	06:22
carutsu	use qparted gparted?	06:22
ubuntu_	im using qtparted	06:22
ubuntu_	it greyed out	06:22
jontec	ubuntu_: you right click and then (do something) and then choose the start location and end location, I think.	06:22
ubuntu_	jontec: no, its my main partition, i need to resize it	06:23
defrysk	ubuntu_, is the partition mounted ?	06:23
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jontec	ubuntu_: yeah, :D which one are you using (I assumed qt)	06:23
ubuntu_	how can i tell?	06:23
defrysk	key in mount	06:23
ubuntu_	qtparted	06:23
defrysk	and see if its mounted	06:23
carutsu	is it bluish? is qt, is it brownish GTK, XDD	06:23
defrysk	in a terminal	06:23
CraZy675	whats wrong with flashplugin-nonfree?	06:24
ubuntu_	so how do i know if its mounted?	06:24
ubuntu_	it would list sda1 as a mount/	06:24
CraZy675	its taking forever for adept to install it	06:24
ubuntu_	?*	06:24
jontec	(oh yeah, I have a question) where's KDE/konqueror's temp folder? I can't remember T_T	06:25
defrysk	ubuntu_, then your main partition is mounted and cannot be resized	06:25
ubuntu_	no	06:25
ubuntu_	i was asking	06:25
ubuntu_	!pastebin	06:25
ubotwo	pastebin-#kubuntu is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:25
defrysk	ubuntu_, does the live cd have a "use existing free space" option ?	06:26
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ubuntu_	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22531/ thats what is mounted	06:26
jontec	defrysk: there is no free space... O_o it's one continuous partition	06:27
ubuntu_	im not trying to install anything, im just trying to resize a partition	06:27
carutsu	!mp3>carutsu	06:27
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jontec	ubuntu_: alright, just install gparted... because I have a copy of that on my computer	06:27
manwithaface	ubuntu_: i just jumped in, but I believe the partition must be unmounted first	06:27
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defrysk	well it should net be a problem with gparted, not sure about qtparted	06:28
defrysk	not*	06:28
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dfgas	how do i change the power off time for my monitor?	06:28
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jontec	ubuntu_: all the ones that are mounted in gparted (after you install it...) are indicated with a lock... you can then see which ones need to be unmounted	06:29
jontec	ubuntu_: before you make any changes	06:30
jontec	ubuntu_: hehe, you can even unmount it from there.	06:30
ubuntu_	ok, i see that the swap has a lock	06:30
flake	I have to have the paid version of hotmail in order to use it in tbird ?	06:30
ubuntu_	because thats what the live cd is running from	06:30
ubuntu_	everything else is ok	06:30
geekytrent	flake: without a script, yes	06:30
jontec	ubuntu_: alright then, get to it! :D	06:31
carutsu	if I'm using the 945 how do i get it to work out the resolution, I tried with 915resolution but only gets up to 1280x1024 and It supports higher resolutions	06:31
ubuntu_	wow, gparted is better than qtparted	06:31
carutsu	*the 945 intel chipset xorry	06:31
jontec	hehe	06:31
defrysk	flake, I believe tbirt has an addon to circumvent this	06:31
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flake	I installed the webmail, yahoo, and hotmail addons	06:31
defrysk	no you need a tbird addon	06:32
flake	now what, it wants to know smtp and the outgoing	06:32
carutsu	you add it	06:32
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carutsu	and booth pop and smtp is localhost	06:32
defrysk	and get a google account	06:32
carutsu	havent you looked in google there are THOUSANDS of how-to's	06:33
draik	Any major issues with the new release of the linux headers and such?	06:33
draik	I can't launch Firefox or Thunderbird. Beryl is out	06:33
flake	that's the problem, i'm all googly eyed	06:33
flake	added a webmail account, connection refused	06:34
flake	my hotmail under the webmail account	06:34
carutsu	check the ports	06:35
carutsu	in webmail flake, seroiusly, look for a tutorial, it'll be easier	06:35
defrysk	flake, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_webmail_with_your_email_client	06:35
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defrysk	how hard can it be	06:36
defrysk	took me about 0.1 sec to find it	06:36
geekytrent	flake: or you can use this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hotwayd/	06:36
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^RiaN^	hiii everyone	06:37
Zeelot	hellloooo again	06:37
carutsu	geekytrent: he already has thunderbird, it'll be easier if he just install webmail	06:38
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Zeelot	is there a simple way of making the windows key open the kmenu? like in windows =P	06:38
jontec	I need to find that tmp folder, anyone know where it is?	06:38
carutsu	er try configuring it, if KDE cant do it, then cant be done XD	06:38
geekytrent	carutsu: true, i simply use those just incase i want to change the email client i use	06:39
Zeelot	is there somewhere to configure KDE shortcuts?	06:39
geekytrent	that way, i'm not dependant on a specific email proggy	06:39
carutsu	geekytrent: xD you are a changer eh, very	06:39
carutsu	Zeelot: yes	06:40
Zeelot	where at?	06:40
^RiaN^	someone have install ragnarok online here	06:40
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^RiaN^	i need help with this	06:40
carutsu	Zeelot: try in system>mouse and keyboard	06:40
^RiaN^	carutsu: how to install ragnarok online	06:41
flake	ugh.. gotta forward yet another port?	06:41
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carutsu	flake: no, no port forwarding just make the port go over 1024 since undfer that number are for root only	06:42
enzo_	What is NSPLUGINSCAN?	06:42
carutsu	!nspluginscan	06:42
ubotwo	Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/	06:42
carutsu	!info nspluginscan	06:42
carutsu	enzo_: no clue	06:42
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carutsu	!info nspluginscan	06:43
jontec	^RiaN^: google search 'ragnarok linux', better yet 'ragnarok linux ubuntu'	06:43
enzo_	That makes two of us	06:43
carutsu	enzo_: XD	06:43
enzo_	I'm on my laptop	06:43
enzo_	My desktop won't do anything. No Beryl, no Firefox, no Thunderbird... I'm SOL	06:43
enzo_	It all happened with the upgrade to the new kernel	06:43
carutsu	hey im un kubuntu obviously in order to get the Extras (mp3 divx, so on) i have to download the same packages like in ubuntu?	06:43
geekytrent	enzo_: boot into the old kernel then	06:43
Zeelot	hmm doesn;t seem to let me just use the Win key it has to be Win+something =(	06:44
enzo_	I am	06:44
enzo_	Same problem, geekytrent	06:44
carutsu	Zeelot: try win+space	06:44
carutsu	enzo_: then the kernel is not the problem	06:44
Zeelot	yea that works but not what I'm looking for	06:44
enzo_	I can't install anything either	06:44
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jontec	carutsu, Zeelot: a lot of K apps use Win+* for things... amaroK, for example	06:44
enzo_	something about a bad file with too many dependencies	06:45
geekytrent	enzo_: can you create another user account, and see if it works in there?	06:45
carutsu	Zeelot: as far as i know the win key is a modofier and needs to be used with something else	06:45
jontec	prolly why it won't let you use win by itself	06:45
carutsu	jontec: yes i know	06:45
Zeelot	yea alright thanks	06:45
jontec	k	06:45
lfranchi	i'm trying to install kubuntu on my macbook pro, and when booting from the 7.04 install cd, after choosing what type of install, and after seeing the status bar scroll (I see X starting) i just get a black screen with nothing on it (but i can type and characters appear). can anyone help?	06:46
enzo_	geekytrent: I have to figure something out FAST. I have a flight in a few hours and I need my email to get the confirmation number	06:46
enzo_	How do I downgrade?	06:46
carutsu	geekytrent: i want to play mp3 amarok tries to install the codec however for some reason it just cant, in order to get it, what packages should i get? same as ubuntu? i mean kubuntu uses xine as backend too?	06:46
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geekytrent	enzo_: make another user, and see if it works with that new user account...if so, your preference files are borked	06:47
dr_willis	yea amarok for some odd reason has an issue installing that.	06:47
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dr_willis	i either got it to work by running amarok from the shell.. or i may of just manually installed the packages mentioned on the Kubuntu Faq.	06:47
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carutsu	dr_willis: kubuntu faq.. let me see, i'm being redirected to a ubuntu and i dont think they use the same engine, but let me check	06:48
geekytrent	carutsu: install this: libxine-extracodecs	06:48
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carutsu	geekytrent: that was my question so kubuntu _do_ uses xine too	06:48
geekytrent	yes	06:48
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nahemoth	what should I use instead of "HJSPLIT" in Kubuntu?	06:49
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enzo_	geekytrent: Well, nspluginscan still craps out	06:49
Hobbsee	dr_willis: when you find out why some people's machines have trouble installing it, please do tell	06:49
enzo_	geekytrent: Firefox won't open either	06:50
geekytrent	enzo_: i'm thinking it might not have completed the linking correctly when installing the new kernel	06:50
enzo_	geekytrent: So what should I do?	06:51
geekytrent	enzo_: rescue mode it, copy all the info you have in your user directory, and reinstall would be the easiest solution...or mount your directory from the cd, and import your info into the email client on cd to check the email	06:52
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enzo_	:(	06:52
geekytrent	there is a hard workaround, but i'll have to look it up	06:52
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geekytrent	it's been years since i've had to manually unlink and revert back to an older kernel	06:53
nahemoth	instead of HJSPLIT ?	06:53
enzo_	geekytrent: Isn't there a way to force the upgrade	06:55
enzo_	geekytrent: I know I've heard of a way and I've done it once, but I don't recall	06:55
enzo_	This was almost exactly one year ago when 6.06 was FIRST released	06:55
dr_willis	Hobbsee, id have to do a clean reinstall and watch what happened. :) I was thinking that thee was some clue in the konsole text.	06:55
flake	gmail is working ok, it's asking for password but I don't have an account set up	06:56
geekytrent	enzo_: here is a guide but using lilo as the boot loader http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/tuning/kernelcompilation.shtml	06:57
Hobbsee	dr_willis: would be helpful to have access to that. sometimes it doesnt seem to come up for people at all, which is what's got me confused	06:57
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geekytrent	enzo_: you can manually download the kernel, and try again this way	06:58
enzo_	How?	06:58
enzo_	geekytrent: HOW?	06:58
geekytrent	using wget	06:58
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enzo_	geekytrent: linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic is already the latest version	07:00
geekytrent	okay, so you have it...use that page to help compile it again.	07:00
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geekytrent	here is a better explanation: http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/202/1/	07:02
geekytrent	but like i said, i recommend a reinstall...it's faster.	07:04
geekytrent	and easier	07:04
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enzo_	geekytrent: Well, I called the airline and got what I needed, but it still doesn't solve the issue with the nspluginscan crash	07:09
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enzo_	What do I lose when I go into recovery mode?	07:09
geekytrent	enzo_: nothing	07:09
enzo_	so what's the diff?	07:10
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geekytrent	enzo_: well, what do you mean by lose?	07:10
enzo_	What options do I lose? What is taken away from usage?	07:10
userund	enzo_: you start as root.	07:10
enzo_	I wish there was a way I can back track what happened.	07:11
enzo_	nspluginscan is what is causing a lot of problems	07:11
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enzo_	Is there a way to see what was installed with my last "apt-get upgrade"?	07:12
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geekytrent	ugh, later all, i'm going to bed :)	07:13
joakim_	j	07:14
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joakim_	hi	07:16
drarem	it's sad that hotmail is changing to windows live hotmail, I've had my account since 1996	07:16
joakim_	anyone can tell me how this works?	07:16
bsundsrud	how what works? IRC?	07:16
joakim_	yes please	07:16
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joakim_	irC	07:16
bsundsrud	you chat, in rooms based on topic.	07:16
dr_willis	drarem, they should change the name to "Windows Live SpamMail"	07:17
joakim_	whats the topic here?	07:17
bsundsrud	for instance, this is #kubuntu, where people come to discuss the linux distribution Kubuntu	07:17
joakim_	allright! thanks	07:17
obvio171	joakim_: how did you get here, by the way?	07:17
drarem	that's true too	07:18
joakim_	I installed kubuntu and Konversation opened/started by default it seemed	07:18
obvio171	ah, nice :)	07:18
obvio171	welcome then :)	07:18
obvio171	this is a great place to get help	07:18
nirmal	try meebo.com if you need chat with your friends:joakim	07:19
joakim_	yeah I hope so i'v been browsing.. and the forums is the best place so far...I'll try this next time I need help	07:19
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bsundsrud	yeah forums and this channel are great resources if you're having trouble	07:19
joakim_	ok nirmal..just checking this out	07:20
drarem	so webmail / thunderbird is an email server ?	07:22
ubuntu_	hi, im resizing a partition from 120gb to 64gb, its been going for about 45min and is still on 0 of 4 operations completed (im using gparted) and when i click details it says "resize2fs /dev/sda1 66347M, its been on this for abotu 45 min, i dont want to click cancel because i might lose everything, is it normal for this to take this long?	07:22
nirmal	cool	07:22
bsundsrud	ubuntu_: it generally depends on the amount of data that it has to move while resizing, though 45 minutes seems excessive.	07:23
drarem	ubuntu_ don't panic, the answer is 42 and yes but hope you backed everything up valuable first	07:23
dr_willis	hmm..you dont have more then 64gb of data on that do you?	07:23
ubuntu_	no	07:23
ubuntu_	i have 56	07:23
dr_willis	just checing.. heh heh..	07:23
bsundsrud	that would be bad	07:23
bsundsrud	haha	07:24
dr_willis	this is a ntfs partition its resizing?	07:24
bsundsrud	magic compression?	07:24
ubuntu_	no, ext3	07:24
bsundsrud	hmm, and it wasn	07:24
dr_willis	hmm.. could check dmesg output see if any info is showing up.	07:24
bsundsrud	wasn't mounted?	07:24
ubuntu_	it just changed to e2fsxk -fy /dev/sda1	07:24
ubuntu_	no, it wasnt mounted	07:24
bsundsrud	well at least it just changed :D	07:24
dr_willis	sounds like its working then. :)	07:24
ubuntu_	fsck*	07:24
bsundsrud	yeah, you're fscked.	07:25
bsundsrud	hehe, i love that command.	07:25
ubuntu_	what is that command?	07:25
bsundsrud	but it sounds like its working ok, its doing a FileSystem ChecK of the resized partition	07:25
ubuntu_	oh	07:25
bsundsrud	a full one, may take a bit	07:26
ubuntu_	dr_willisL what did you say i should check?	07:26
joakim_	hi what firewall do you recomend for kubuntu?	07:26
bsundsrud	at a console, type 'dmesg'	07:26
bsundsrud	and look for suspicious messages, especially pertaining to disks	07:26
dr_willis	sounds to me like its working fine.. its just slow	07:26
ubuntu_	well, what do you know	07:26
ubuntu_	i opened it from a console	07:27
ubuntu_	so its been putting everything there	07:27
dr_willis	:)	07:27
dr_willis	linux FUNdamentals!	07:27
ubuntu_	YAY! 1 operation completed	07:27
dr_willis	that prog is mainly a front end to console/shell commands	07:27
bsundsrud	ubuntu_: woots, it should go quicker now.	07:27
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ubuntu_	yes, i know gui's are just front ends for term based things	07:28
bsundsrud	well, sometimes.	07:28
bsundsrud	hehe	07:29
ubuntu_	most of the time	07:29
bsundsrud	for most of the important bits, yes. things like parted because they are well tested and vetted and re-implementing it in GUI wouldn't add anything, and could possibly introduce FS-trashing bugs	07:30
dr_willis	try explainign that to these windows users and they cant under stand that. :0	07:31
ubuntu_	ha	07:31
bsundsrud	yeah i know.	07:31
ubuntu_	"termin-a-huh?"	07:32
bsundsrud	its best to just hide the term stuff from them	07:32
dr_willis	then again they got a hard time understanding a lot of things :)	07:32
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bsundsrud	"what? theres no terminal here. we're just scary OS internals. ooooooh!"	07:32
ubuntu_	but in windows instead of doing somthing in a term you have to open 554654 windows go though 54546847 drop-downs click 5454564 checkboxes	07:33
dr_willis	then in the next versionof windows.. its been moved	07:33
bsundsrud	yeah. and yet they still call me crazy for using a term.	07:34
ubuntu_	haha	07:34
bsundsrud	sigh	07:34
tmbg	gtkxine: auto-detecting video driver...	07:34
tmbg	Segmentation fault (core dumped)	07:34
tmbg	:(	07:34
tmbg	^ pornview :/	07:34
bsundsrud	gtkxine?	07:34
ubuntu_	so what do you think about the ubuntu-dell thing dr_willis?	07:34
bsundsrud	tmbg: what are you trying to run?	07:34
dr_willis	from what ive seen.. their desktop systems seem a little overpriced.. laptops seem ok	07:35
tmbg	bsundsrud, pornview	07:35
dr_willis	I would MUCH rather see them have some more infoon whats in their desktop systms.. what mb/chipset and so on	07:35
bsundsrud	they're supposed to be slightly cheaper for same spec'd windows systems...	07:35
tmbg	it's an image viewer that's actually pretty nice, despite the retarded name.	07:35
ubuntu_	the desktop is 150 cheaper than the same desktop with win on it	07:35
bsundsrud	tmbg: haha gotta love some F/OSS project names :)	07:35
dr_willis	bsundsrud, i dident notice thembeing much cheaper. but from what i saw.. they got identicall 'name' type systems.. but different stuff in them	07:35
tmbg	yeah. any ideas?	07:36
dr_willis	not sure how DELL does their names. :) but the linux laptops are all using intel cpus and their other (similer #) pc ones have amd cpus	07:36
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bsundsrud	i can't say that i've heard of gtkxine... is that a frontend or a backend?	07:36
ubuntu_	frontend	07:37
bsundsrud	dr_willis: just hopefully enough people buy them that people see that linux can be relevant in the desktop market...	07:37
ubuntu_	the whole reason im doing this is xine problems	07:37
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Rictoo	how would I \| grep something and also show the lines around it?	07:37
ubuntu_	yay, it finished resizing	07:37
bsundsrud	tmbg: sorry, not much experience with that and im not on kubuntu at the moment	07:37
dogatemycomputer	bsundsrud: that's the problem. most of us linux guys/gals are computer geeks so we build our own computers. I personally use 2 Dell machines here because the company paid for them..	07:37
dr_willis	bsundsrud, of course compare what dellis offering with the price of a build-it-your-self system.. i dont see much point inthe dell desktops forme	07:37
bsundsrud	Rictoo: grep -C<lines of context>	07:38
Rictoo	<3	07:38
dr_willis	Now i did get a nice littel $888 laptop quote..	07:38
bsundsrud	Rictoo: like, grep -C2 something	07:38
dr_willis	but local best buy has similer laptop for less $$	07:38
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dogatemycomputer	I am glad to hear they're selling them though. There are quite a few people i have suggested linux too in the past but I couldn't find anyplace to refer them too.	07:38
bsundsrud	Rictoo: also, -A# will be # lines after, -B# will be # lines before.	07:38
dogatemycomputer	Now I can say.. "try out linux first.. www.dell.com"..	07:38
dr_willis	and it will come ith a copy of windows for when i do outgrow the laptop and give it to mom.	07:38
bsundsrud	dr_willis: the point of the desktops is for people that don't want to do all the setup, and wade through forums and IRC channels to get everything working :D	07:39
ubuntu_	does anyone know if inted 945g's are ok graphics chipsets?	07:39
bsundsrud	ubuntu_: what are you doing with it?	07:39
bsundsrud	ubuntu_: works for beryl fine, maybe not for some games.	07:40
ubuntu_	thats what i wanted to do	07:40
ubuntu_	i was gunna build a new machine, and that was was on the mobo	07:40
ubuntu_	i didnt know if i needed a card or not	07:40
bsundsrud	ubuntu_: then yes. I've set it up on friend's machines and its the most painless 3d video drivers in linux	07:40
ubuntu_	i have a 845	07:40
ubuntu_	it does it	07:40
ubuntu_	but just barelty	07:40
ubuntu_	barely*	07:41
ubuntu_	23fps max	07:41
bsundsrud	only thing is maybe resolutions, but im sure you know of 915resolution :D	07:41
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ubuntu_	ya, but i always just do mine manually in the xorg	07:41
bsundsrud	yeah thats getting a bit old... the 945 works fine	07:41
insmod	anyone know how to get bluetooth going?	07:41
ubuntu_	haha, a bit? its like 5-6 years old	07:41
bsundsrud	i was being nice.	07:42
dr_willis	bsundsrud, with that logic - we could make due with embeded linux gizmos :0	07:42
insmod	i never used it before	07:42
dr_willis	heh heh	07:42
ubuntu_	so you think itll do beryl ok with a 3.6ghz, 1.5gb ram?	07:42
Lam_	how do i unzip from the command line?	07:42
bsundsrud	dr_willis: didnt say it was right for everyone :D	07:42
dr_willis	ubuntu_, i jusdt saw a linxu site mentionign/reviewing that chipset	07:42
bsundsrud	ubuntu_: oh yeah.	07:42
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bsundsrud	Lam_: unzip <file>	07:42
ubuntu_	so ill be seeing ablot better than 23fps?	07:43
bsundsrud	muhc	07:43
bsundsrud	er much	07:43
ubuntu_	good!	07:43
ubuntu_	i want to do some vid capture	07:43
insmod	what chip 945 ? it works great	07:43
Lam_	bsundsrud: thanks	07:43
ubuntu_	but if i do it now i drop to .5 fos	07:43
ubuntu_	fps*	07:43
dr_willis	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=720&num=1	07:43
dr_willis	Intel Q965 Graphics Performance	07:43
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ubuntu_	thanks doc	07:44
dawn	Question: my drive light runs constantly, how do I see what processes are running	07:44
dawn	looking at my cpu, it is going up and down all the time	07:44
dr_willis	dont expect to be playing Quake4 with it :)	07:44
insmod	ubuntu_: intel 945? i use it	07:44
ubuntu_	i dont do games	07:44
bsundsrud	dawn: ksysguard is a nice GUI for checking that stuff, if you like the console, use top	07:45
ubuntu_	i just want to do some GOOD beryl,	07:45
dr_willis	their summary - good for 'real work' heh sort of.	07:45
dawn	thx	07:45
dr_willis	and it can do some of the eye candy for beryl	07:45
dr_willis	but ifind Beryl and 'real work' conflict.	07:45
ubuntu_	well if i can do most beryl with a 845 im sure it can do better	07:45
ubuntu_	lol	07:45
dr_willis	I dont need Wiggly/Exploding windows.	07:45
ubuntu_	but its so fun	07:45
bsundsrud	dr_willis: of course! everyone knows only the burned-up windows actually increase productivity	07:46
ubuntu_	i never really understood the whole multipul desktops untill i saw it on a cube	07:46
hitmanWilly	dr_willis: the cube is nice for switching workspaces, but that's about it	07:46
insmod	ubuntu_: run the export INTEL_BATCH=	07:46
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ubuntu_	insmod: i dont have a 945	07:46
insmod	ubuntu_: ah	07:47
ubuntu_	i was thinking of getting a mobo with it as the gfx chipset	07:47
ubuntu_	just wondering how it would do	07:47
insmod	:)	07:47
insmod	anyone wanna help with my bluetooth?	07:47
ubuntu_	mmm micro atx mobos	07:47
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bsundsrud	insmod: I would, but i know little of bluetooth...	07:48
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insmod	bsundsrud: i just can't get it to load the device hcx	07:49
NightVVulf	[simple question] I can't seem to find a way to switch the mouse options for Konqueror so that I can double click to open instead of single click	07:50
bsundsrud	insmod: modprobe hcx? im really reaching here :)	07:50
dawn	how can I change su password?	07:50
bsundsrud	NightVVulf: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse tab -> change single click to double click	07:50
nixternal	dawn: su password is your user password	07:51
dawn	ok	07:51
NightVVulf	ah.. figured it would be something simple that I just missed.	07:51
bsundsrud	dawn: you want to create a superuser account, or change your sudo password?	07:51
dawn	ok but root?	07:51
nixternal	only way to change that would be to change your own password	07:51
nixternal	sudo passwd root	07:51
dawn	when I put in my pw it does not take it	07:51
dawn	ok	07:51
NightVVulf	thanks	07:52
nixternal	if it doesn't take your user password, either 1) you are typing the password wrong, or 2) you aren't in sudoers...3 would be a possible corrupted /etc/sudoers..but it would scream at you if it was	07:52
dawn	ok I changed my login pw earlier today	07:53
dawn	but when I try to sudo, it does not work	07:53
dawn	nixternal: ok	07:53
bsundsrud	which password are you trying to use for sudo?	07:53
dawn	same as mu login	07:54
dawn	which it was setup that way	07:54
dawn	I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that I changed it earlier today	07:54
nixternal	it shouldn't	07:54
hitmanWilly	dawn: did you ever create a root acct?	07:54
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bsundsrud	perhaps, try the other password while you're at it :D	07:54
troy	hi all	07:54
nixternal	hiya troy	07:55
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dawn	hitmanWilly: not to my recollection	07:55
hitmanWilly	dawn: try the old passwd then, see if it works	07:56
dawn	no	07:57
dawn	it failes...	07:57
dawn	hmmmmmm	07:57
hitmanWilly	dawn: you are typing in the correct case, right? passwds are case sensitive...	07:59
dawn	yes, i know that	07:59
dawn	I made sure of that before coming in here	07:59
dawn	:)	07:59
hitmanWilly	dawn: just making sure :)	07:59
dawn	only thing I did was chnage my pw	07:59
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hitmanWilly	dawn: are you SURE you're typing it in right?	08:00
dawn	yes	08:01
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dawn	let me logoff and then back on	08:01
dawn	is there a way to reset the SU pw?	08:01
bsundsrud	dawn: not really...	08:01
hitmanWilly	dawn: you could try changing your passwd again, see if it helps	08:02
troy	<dawn>, in single mode	08:02
dawn	passwd dawn password	08:02
dawn	?	08:02
bsundsrud	bah im an idiot.	08:02
troy	))	08:02
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troy	dawn, do you need erase your root pass?	08:03
dawn	I dont know yet	08:03
dawn	I just went to try to chnage my pw again for my user account and it wont let me	08:03
troy	dawn :) ok	08:03
hitmanWilly	dawn: just passwd dawn, then it should ask you for the new one	08:04
NightVVulf	is there a way to mount a drive manually but allow normal users to access it? I have a drive that can not be detected automatically, but when I mount it with the mount command it is only accessible by root. Leaving me without a way to access it within the GUI. I could make a root user... but I was trying to avoid having to log in as root every time I need to access it.	08:04
dawn	thats where I am at	08:04
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dawn	authentication failure	08:04
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dawn	wtf	08:04
dawn	brb	08:04
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dawn	i am gonna logoff	08:04
dawn	then back	08:04
dawn	brbr	08:04
obvio171	NightVVulf: I think if users have read access to the folder where you mounted the drive, after you've mounted they can access it just like any other folder. I'm not sure though.	08:05
bsundsrud	NightVVulf: there is an option you can send to it to change the permissions on the mount, but I'm too stupid tonight and deferring to someone else so i dont hose your machine	08:05
carutsu	Kubuntu configures the buttons of the volume right however i do need accents such as and by activating the combine key i can no longer change the volume with the custom keys built in the laptop, any ideas on how to solve it	08:05
carutsu	?	08:05
dr_willis	NightVVulf, set up fstab with the proper 'umask, user, and users' option	08:05
jbrouhard	What's the *buntu equivalent of usbusers in /etc/group ?	08:05
dr_willis	NightVVulf, if its a ntfs/vfat drive/partition - you MUST set up the proper umask at least. :)	08:06
dr_willis	night all	08:06
NightVVulf	mmm... yeah ... if you mount it to a location that is accessible by a user... that location is no longer accessible by the user until you unmount.	08:06
carutsu	it is a Hp-Compaq nx7400	08:06
dr_willis	NightVVulf, if you mount a filesustem to a diretory. the stuff in that directory is basicially 'hidden' untill unmounted.	08:07
NightVVulf	though I'm rather new at Linux... and have no idea where to start with fstab. any good sites with info on setting up the umask options	08:07
dr_willis	google for ntfs/mount/linux - for a start	08:07
dr_willis	Mounting of drives is one of those things everyone should know.	08:07
dr_willis	!ntfs	08:07
ubotwo	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse	08:07
dr_willis	some of the wiki/ubuntu docs are not very broad however. heh	08:07
dr_willis	!mount	08:07
ubotwo	Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter	08:08
troy	who's know: where's stardict keep dictionaries?	08:08
dr_willis	!fstab	08:08
ubotwo	The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions	08:08
dr_willis	well night all	08:08
carutsu	anyone?	08:08
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bsundsrud	carutsu: I'm not certain, but maybe changing keyboard layouts would help you	08:12
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dawn	ok I fixed that	08:12
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dawn	I forget I changed it to aalphanumeric pw and not straight letters	08:13
dawn	duh	08:13
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dawn	no to figure out what app is running and slowing down my machine	08:14
dawn	*now	08:14
troy	where's stardict keep dictionaries?	08:14
troy	i;m find now ((	08:14
carutsu	bsundsrud: how?... I use accents so I use combine but that took out my custom volume buttons, how will layouts help? how do i do it?	08:15
bsundsrud	system settings -> uh, regional and something? -> keyboard layouts	08:15
bsundsrud	trust me, i do this to get all my laptop keys working together (Compaq v3000z)	08:16
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bsundsrud	enable layouts, and try an HP one at random. I'm currently using Compaq internet keyboard (18 keys)	08:17
carutsu	bsundsrud: I did active that way, I actived KXB, but that exactly disabled my keys to turn up or down the volume	08:17
dawn	!ksmserver	08:17
ubotwo	ksmserver - session manager for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	08:17
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carutsu	bsundsrud: the problem is that it's an english keyboard and i need some characters that aren't there, h and is a laptop btw	08:18
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bsundsrud	carutsu: hmm, im really not sure what to tell you. I know you can set it up so that Caps Lock becomes the combine key though...	08:19
bsundsrud	its something to do with xmodmap, but i really haven't messed with it.	08:19
carutsu	bsundsrud: i do have, that disabled those keys u_u	08:20
bsundsrud	hah. so i take it your volume is a FN+somekey combination, and not dedicated buttons?	08:20
carutsu	bsundsrud: oh well, that and my resolution were the problems with my new laptop	08:20
dawn	thx for all the help	08:21
carutsu	bsundsrud: nop, dedicated buttons	08:21
dawn	I still cannot figure out what process is working my cpu so hard	08:21
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bsundsrud	so is it a certain keyboard layout that you have to use?	08:21
bsundsrud	dawn: have you tried top?	08:21
bsundsrud	that sorts by CPU usage	08:21
carutsu	bsundsrud: I use the US layout but with XKB activated	08:21
dawn	I am now	08:21
dawn	I forgot about aht	08:21
carutsu	!XKB	08:21
ubotwo	Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/	08:21
bsundsrud	carutsu: whats your keyboard model in layouts?	08:22
dawn	ok I am not sure on how to read this output, bsundsrud	08:23
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carutsu	bsundsrud: the layout? US English	08:23
bsundsrud	carutsu: no, the keyboard model. If you're in the layout GUI, its above the listbox with active layouts in it	08:24
chuen	Can someone help me with a boot problem please?	08:24
chuen	This happened immediately after I tried installing GDE.	08:24
bsundsrud	dawn: you should just be worried about the PU column	08:24
carutsu	bsundsrud: wait somehow cant open kcontrol	08:24
dawn	which one is that	08:24
bsundsrud	do it from a term, sudo kcontrol	08:24
dawn	is it is not listed	08:25
carutsu	bsundsrud: its installing something, wait a sec	08:25
bsundsrud	when you run 'top'?	08:25
dawn	yes	08:25
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bsundsrud	dawn: what do you see? i see a few lines of info, then a bunch of rows of running processes	08:25
dawn	for instance, 4031 root 15 0 41540 27m 4036 S	08:25
bsundsrud	make your term bigger?	08:25
dawn	cpu only shows as being 6%	08:26
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dawn	but drive is very active	08:26
bsundsrud	hm.	08:26
dawn	has to be a program	08:26
dawn	misconfigured	08:26
bsundsrud	you have beagle running?	08:27
chuen	Anyone?	08:27
bsundsrud	chuen: whats GDE?	08:27
dawn	i was just thinking that	08:27
chuen	Gnome Desktop Environment.	08:27
troy	chuen, i'm gonna listen	08:27
chuen	Thx	08:27
dawn	doesn;t show being installed	08:27
dawn	but like my try from cmdline	08:27
carutsu	omg, what now? it says the MIME type cnat be found aplication/octect-stream	08:27
troy	chuen, GDE = KDE?	08:28
bsundsrud	carutsu: is your place of residence built upon ancient burial mounds?	08:28
dawn	beagle is not installed	08:28
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dawn	thats what I thought	08:28
bsundsrud	chuen: you want #ubuntu or #gnome, this is for kubuntu, which uses KDE	08:28
carutsu	bsundsrud: xD no as far as i know	08:28
chuen	OK After installing that (using Adept) , when I went to reboot my PC stapped at the word 'boot' (after loading kernel etc. and before the splash screen would have normally come up)	08:28
flake	can't believe starcraft 3 is coming out, after all these years	08:28
bsundsrud	flake: you skipped a number.	08:29
chuen	bdundrud: Yes Kubuntu is my default OS :)	08:29
flake	doh	08:29
flake	i meant to say that in the future	08:29
chuen	So, I eneterd the menu (using 'escape) and selected a normal boot with one of the 3 kernels listed there	08:29
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chuen	this works fine.	08:29
carutsu	bsundsrud: thank you, for today it'll be over	08:29
carutsu	bsundsrud: i gotta sleep	08:29
bsundsrud	carutsu: try opening it from the command line	08:30
bsundsrud	NVM, sleep now, sweetprince.	08:30
carutsu	bsundsrud: xDDD	08:30
flake	any word on qw et	08:30
bsundsrud	bah jokes ruined by lack of spaces.	08:30
chuen	The only clue I have is that it wont boot up if I choose kernel 2.3.17-11, but will run with 17-10.	08:30
bsundsrud	qw?	08:30
flake	quakewars	08:30
troy	chuen, you installed new kernel?	08:30
carutsu	see you around	08:31
bsundsrud	chuen: in the grub menu, with 17-11 highlighted, press 'e' and remove 'quiet' or 'silent' and 'splash' from the line that begins /boot/vmlinuz... and press enter. then press b. you should at least see an error.	08:31
chuen	Not AFAIK. When I looked at the menu, there was a choice of 4 kernels and I was advised (here) to try 17.10	08:31
chuen	which worked.	08:31
bsundsrud	troy: i ignored an easy solution again, didnt I?	08:32
chuen	bsundrud: I'm afraid that's a bit beyone me (I mean I can edit it, if you tell me where to fing it!)	08:32
troy	bsundsrud, i don't think so ))))	08:32
bsundsrud	chuen: when you're at the grub menu, selecting which kernel to boot, select the one that wont boot and press e	08:33
chuen	bsundrud: Oh, OK.	08:33
bsundsrud	next, highlight the line that starts with /boot/vmlinuz and hit e again	08:33
chuen	I'll reboot and get back to you.	08:33
bsundsrud	then remove the silent and splash stuff. it should give you all text	08:33
bsundsrud	i forget if its silent or quiet.	08:34
bsundsrud	its late and my level of caring is dipping.	08:34
KevinAlaska	if a file starts with ._ does that mean it has been deleted?	08:34
chuen	bsundrud: OK, I'll try that, thx.	08:34
chuen	bsundrud: I understand. It's early here (London).	08:34
bsundsrud	chuen: also, start typing a name and press tab. it will complete it	08:35
bsundsrud	dont ever for get that s again.	08:35
bsundsrud	:)	08:35
KevinAlaska	London.. eight hours ahead of me. :)	08:35
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bsundsrud	chuen: its late here (Minnesota)	08:35
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chuen	bsundrud: OK, if you're still here when I've tried it, I'll report back.	08:35
bsundsrud	k	08:35
mdeanda	hi all. strange problem i'm getting. kubuntu used to work fine but now my kde session doesn't seem to finish starting up? i've deleted my .kde folder a few times. it doesn't get to the system tray stuff and right clicking on desktop (kwin) doesn't show context menu. any ideas?	08:36
chuen	bsundrud: Yes, I appreciate that most of the people here now are way past their bedtimes!	08:36
bsundsrud	chuen: haha im working on other stuff too, not THAT pathetic...	08:36
bsundsrud	well, lets not go there.	08:36
troy	bsundsrud, i'm entered in grub menu few days later, when i load in single mode (forget root pass) :))	08:36
chuen	bsundrud: LOL. Maybe I should have tried at a more 'civilised' hour :)	08:37
chuen	bsundrud: civilized even ;)	08:37
bsundsrud	mdeanda: did you delete ~/.kderc while you were at it?	08:37
bsundsrud	civili(s\|z)ed is a matter of opinion :)	08:37
chuen	bsundrud: :)	08:38
bsundsrud	troy: thats right. keep rubbing it in.	08:38
mdeanda	no, i suppose i'll try that.. actually system tray did finally show up, but the icon/program that loads up my wireless didn't show up.	08:38
KevinAlaska	no idea mdeanda... I wish I had the experience to help you on that one. :(	08:38
KevinAlaska	A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.	08:38
mdeanda	i did install the pptp packages but i don't see how that would cause this.	08:38
bsundsrud	hm. shouldnt	08:39
bsundsrud	chuen: you better go quick if you want me to still be here :)	08:39
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mdeanda	does anybody know where kde gets the default set of program to launch when a new .kde folder (profile?) is created? b/c it already launches the battery thing and acpi causes stuff to appear in kde without me doing anything	08:40
bsundsrud	2AM CST rolls around and im out like the fat kid in dodgeball.	08:40
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bsundsrud	mdeanda: depends on the distro, and im not sure where kubuntu keeps it (stuff like knetworkmanager and etc)	08:41
mdeanda	bsundsrud: i finally found something useful, i did a ps aux \| grep net and found a bunch of network manager programs running.. and one had <defunct> (thought i thought i grepped for defunc before..)	08:43
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bsundsrud	mdeanda: ah. that could cause problems	08:43
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felipe_	hola	08:45
felipe_	alguien habla espaol?	08:46
mdeanda	si	08:46
bsundsrud	nein, sprechen Sie Deutsch?	08:46
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felipe_	acabo de instalar Kubuntu y he tenido algunos problemas	08:47
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dogatemycomputer	!en	08:47
ubotwo	The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat	08:47
dogatemycomputer	!es	08:47
ubotwo	Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	08:47
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mdeanda	ehh, i somehow broke knetworkmanager and i can't even kill it :(	08:51
chuen	bsundrud: Hi. I edited the line and still no boot - and no errors.	08:51
bsundsrud	chuen: no output even?	08:51
chuen	bsundrud: Nope. Just moved on to the line 'boot' and stopped (IYSWIM)	08:52
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bsundsrud	IDSWYM	08:53
chuen	bsundrud: Tell you what, I'll ask here later as at least I can access my system!	08:53
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bsundsrud	haha ok... hold on. lemme double check one thing with you	08:53
chuen	bsudrud: OK, output stops at the 'boot' command.	08:53
hyper_ch	bonjour HymnToLife	08:53
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bsundsrud	kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 ro root=LABEL=/1 splash quiet (this is the line you started with. cept, ignore the Fedora kernel ;))	08:54
chuen	bsundrud: I think the only other lines that appear before that are something like: initrd: /boot/initrd.img	08:54
bsundsrud	you changed it to: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 ro root=LABEL=/1	08:55
bsundsrud	?	08:55
chuen	bsundrud: and 'save default'	08:55
bsundsrud	and pressed enter, then 'b'?	08:55
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chuen	bsundrud: then 'boot'	08:55
chuen	bsundrud: Yes.	08:55
chuen	bsundrud: it just had 'ro' at the end of the line.	08:56
LinkCanabico	hi everybody i was wandering if someone knows a movie manager/database/organizer for linux	08:56
bsundsrud	and it takes you out of grub but then just displays the rest of the boot stanza?	08:56
chuen	bsundrud: yes.	08:56
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bsundsrud	hmm	08:57
bsundsrud	does the initrd file exist? does the vmlinuz file exist?	08:57
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bsundsrud	does everything but the version match the boot stanza that works?	08:57
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bsundsrud	open /boot/grub/menu.lst to check	08:57
blackflag	does someone kow if there is a directory-server planned for ubuntu-server?	08:57
bsundsrud	and initrd would be in /boot	08:57
chuen	bsundsrud: OK	08:57
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bsundsrud	chuen: sorry, its 2am and i swore i was leaving then. good luck to you. Try asking again later if you still have problems	08:59
hyper_ch	blackflag: whats a directory server?	08:59
chuen	bsundrud: Appreciate it - thx again.	08:59
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bsundsrud	you're welcome.	08:59
blackflag	LDAP	09:00
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blackflag	sometting like directory server from M$	09:00
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blackflag	active directory server from M$	09:01
blackflag	I know that suse has something like this	09:01
hyper_ch	use ldap	09:01
mdeanda	is that mostly to share user logins or what?	09:01
blackflag	centralized user management	09:02
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mdeanda	so like nis?	09:02
blackflag	yes	09:03
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blackflag	it should be for heterogen networks	09:03
flake	is there a batch audio to ogg converter available	09:03
troy	does anybody trying to configure Radeon X1300 Pro in Kubuntu?	09:03
blackflag	so you can manage M$ and linux clients	09:03
mdeanda	if anybody was following.. i was having trouble starting kde.. it turns out gnome-keyring-d is going(?) defunct. any ideas?	09:03
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^RiaN^	yesssssssss	09:04
troy	mdeanda install linux again ))	09:04
^RiaN^	a've done my ragnarok online	09:04
^RiaN^	now i can play ragnarok	09:05
^RiaN^	:D	09:05
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flake	ragnarok? have you tried Thang online?	09:06
mdeanda	troy: but i just installed kubuntu twice in 3 weeks.. slackware lasts me much longer than this.. :( but kubuntu sets up my laptop much better	09:06
^RiaN^	not yet	09:06
^RiaN^	now im going to try install gunbound	09:06
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troy	mdeanda i ve been installed ms windows twice in day ))	09:07
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hiturunk	Heya!	09:07
hyper_ch	mdeanda: you use kubuntu? what do you have gnome-keyrin-d?	09:07
hiturunk	I need some media help, Anyone know of a media player that will play WMVs and AVIs?	09:08
^RiaN^	mdeanda: try visit www.baliwae.com	09:08
mdeanda	hyper_ch: idunno.. hehe.. i think pptpclient installed it or something. or it could have been the mysql tools	09:08
mdeanda	^RiaN^: is that a picture of you?	09:08
troy	hiturunk mplayer can	09:08
^RiaN^	what picture	09:09
^RiaN^	www.toko.baliwae.com	09:09
drarem	i need a batch mp3/wma to ogg converter, any recommendations?	09:09
^RiaN^	no, it's not me	09:09
hvralpha	I have a new intel duo notebook with a 945 video adapter. A clean install of Kubuntu loads a i810 adapter. Does anybody know where the change this setting in the files?	09:09
hyper_ch	drarem: you dno't want to convert them	09:09
hiturunk	I have mplayer installed..	09:09
crimsun	hvralpha: that's the correct driver.	09:09
hiturunk	But it won't play them.	09:09
troy	hiturunk essentials can help you :)	09:10
mdeanda	hiturunk: is the wmv drm'ed?	09:10
drarem	why not, hyper	09:10
hiturunk	No.	09:10
troy	i'm come back in1 hour	09:10
hiturunk	I don't do data rights managment.	09:10
hiturunk	xD	09:10
hvralpha	crimsun, pls explain	09:10
^RiaN^	mdeanda: visit toko.baliwae.com	09:11
mdeanda	^RiaN^: what's there?	09:11
^RiaN^	many	09:11
^RiaN^	jus go there	09:11
hiturunk	Okay, the error I get when trying to play is...Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.	09:12
mdeanda	hiturunk: try mplayer -vo help	09:12
hyper_ch	drarem: why do you want to convert them?	09:12
hiturunk	?	09:12
drarem	get everything in one format, maybe better compression?	09:13
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drarem	but i understand ogg isn't everywhere either	09:14
^RiaN^	mdeanda: toko.baliwae.com is online stor in bali	09:14
hyper_ch	drarem: using a lot of quality?	09:14
^RiaN^	mdeanda: toko.baliwae.com is online store in bali	09:14
mdeanda	drarem: not a bash guru, but you can probably do something like: find \| xargs oggenc -q 9	09:14
drarem	not really, dont have the equipment to play quality	09:15
mdeanda	^RiaN^: why do i care about an online store in bali?	09:15
hyper_ch	drarem: neither mp3 nor wma are lossless formats... when you convert them they will be "compressed" again and you will loss again quite a bit of quality...	09:15
hiturunk	>_< Gah, it said to re-compile it, I'll just use wine to emulate it.	09:15
drarem	oh	09:16
mdeanda	is there a way to figure out why gnome-keyring got installed?	09:16
Jucato	mdeanda: /var/log/dpkg.log or something	09:16
hyper_ch	mdeanda: by telling what you all did install on your computer :)	09:16
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mdeanda	omg.. this is lame.. (or maybe its me)	09:19
mdeanda	i did: apt-get -s remove gnome-keyring	09:19
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mdeanda	and it wants to remove: mysql-query-browser, dvd95, network-manager-pptp libgtkhtml....	09:20
mdeanda	is that because keyring is a dependency of those programs?	09:20
mdeanda	in the past, i've removed some kde program, (that i manually installed after kde was running) and it went ahead and removed all of kde :( :( :(	09:21
drarem	hyper - would drm info take up a bit of unneeded space	09:22
Jucato	mdeanda: apparently, it is. you can always check with "apt-cache depends <package>" to see what a package depends on	09:22
mdeanda	but it seems to me that removing something that has some dependencies will cause it to remove those dependencies? so like, kwrite depends on kdebase or something, so removing kwrite would also remove kdebase?	09:24
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hiturunk	>:\| Mplayer is sucking for me..	09:30
mdeanda	Jucato: can this be a reason why gnome-keyring is failing: from apt-cache i get a dependency problem from libgnome-keyring:	09:31
mdeanda	Depends: mono: classlib-1.0	09:31
hyper_ch	hiturunk: use vlc	09:31
drarem	vlc rocks	09:32
hyper_ch	vlc was my default video player in windoze	09:32
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hyper_ch	its my default one in linux	09:32
hiturunk	VLC?	09:33
truent	theres no easy way to remove all the programs that come with kubuntu desktop if need be is there?	09:33
hiturunk	Yeah there is	09:33
hiturunk	click the start menu icon and click add/remove programs.	09:33
hiturunk	xD	09:33
hyper_ch	hiturunk: not add/remove... using psychocats list on removing/addin desktops through apt-get	09:34
hyper_ch	!info vlc	09:34
ubotwo	vlc - multimedia player and streamer - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information	09:34
drarem	slaps hiturunk with a wet fish - it's the K menu icon	09:34
truent	ahh yeah ive seen lists to remove with apt-get	09:34
hyper_ch	http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ --> playing around section	09:35
drarem	I've installed so much stuff I get overwhelmed as to what I don't need :/	09:35
truent	i tried kubuntu... i liked the configurability.. and willing to try again.. just scared i'll not be able to get rid of the clutter if i have to	09:35
hyper_ch	get xfce	09:36
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felzix	would an xfce install mean xorg uses up less memory than kde?	09:36
truent	nah i got that on a wack laptop of my friends.. and i put xfce+gentoo on my old xbox.. (eheh.) ...	09:36
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truent	i got gnome.. and run beryl.. i like the eyecandy too much	09:36
truent	like the kde though.. just alot of weird programs to get used to	09:37
truent	ive used gnome since 99ish	09:37
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hiturunk	I just noticed, Adept is exactly like click n' run.	09:39
hiturunk	xD	09:39
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hiturunk	Okay, I've got VLC, ANd it's awesome, plays all the video formats I could ever want...but is there a way to make mono the default audio instead of stereo?	09:55
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troy	does anybody trying to configure Radeon X1300 Pro in Kubuntu 7.04	10:11
troy	?	10:11
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atidem	hello	10:12
troy	atidem hu	10:12
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binks_	hiturunk_: you got a vlc problem	10:18
monzie	hi all	10:19
moralless	really quick, would installing kde4 from the repositories overwrite my kde3 installation?	10:19
monzie	i want to import vim71 project into kdevelop	10:19
monzie	can someone help please?	10:19
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binks_	monzie: /j #kdevelop << join this chan	10:20
monzie	binks_: asked, but got no response.. i am on kubuntu so asked here	10:21
jk	did anyone else notice problems with the kde 3.5.7 kdelibs4c2a package? (It seems to be missing the /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4 symlink, the /usr/lib/libkio.so.4 symlink and real file) and /usr/lib/libkparts.so.2	10:21
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binks_	this is more an os chan sorry i dont no vim71	10:22
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nuu	jk: please ask in #kde and if you're sure it's a bug, please take the time to file one on launchpad	10:22
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nuu	if you're not sure it's a bug, but you can't get an answer, then use the "question" feature instead of the bug report one in launchpad	10:23
jk	ok, will do, thanks	10:23
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nuu	np	10:24
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nuu	monzie: there are vi-dedicated channels in this same network	10:25
nuu	try #vim or something like that	10:25
nuu	#vi maybe....not sure	10:25
monzie	nuu: ok	10:25
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hiturunk_	..	10:35
troy_castorkin	hiturunk_ find essentials?	10:37
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defcon_	im having problems running kde, it says when I login i need to set my permissions to my $home directory correctly, what is correct?	10:41
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troy_castorkin	defcon_ permission for your user	10:43
troy_castorkin	defcon_ rwx	10:43
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defcon_	i have 777 set on everything	10:43
defcon_	and kde pops up saying I need to change permissions	10:44
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defcon_	and it keeps telling me to chmod 644 .dmrc	10:44
troy_castorkin	defcon_ 777 for all?	10:44
defcon_	troy_castorkin, yes	10:44
troy_castorkin	defcon_ hmm	10:44
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defcon_	it says I should set permissions so I can access them and other users cant	10:45
defcon_	or something	10:45
troy_castorkin	defcon_ and you can't access in ~?	10:46
defcon_	yes I can, quick question does kde run as root?	10:46
Ace2016	defcon_: it does, but you should never do it	10:47
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defcon_	drwx------ 54 defcon defcon 4096 2007-05-26 01:33 defcon	10:47
defcon_	is that ok	10:47
defcon_	I just did 700	10:47
defcon_	should I chmod * in my home to 700	10:47
defcon_	will that effect anything	10:48
Ace2016	defcon_: run as a normal user, and if you want say kate, or konqueror to run as root, then use ALT+F2, and add kdesu to the front of the name, e.g kdesu kate, or kdesu konqueror	10:48
defcon_	ic	10:48
Ace2016	defcon_: what happened? the settings should be fine by default	10:48
defcon_	I keep getting a stupid popup	10:48
Ace2016	what does it say?	10:48
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defcon_	every time I login it says chmod 644 .dmdr	10:49
Ace2016	did you run a command using sudo? e.g sudo konqueror which messed up your permissions	10:49
defcon_	no	10:49
defcon_	.dmrc	10:49
juan278	can kubuntu boot without /tmp	10:49
defcon_	everything in my $home should be owned by me and be in my group correct	10:50
defcon_	goin to try this again	10:52
defcon_	brb	10:52
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thotel2	hello	10:54
troy_castorkin	thotel2 hi	10:54
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thotel2	hi troy_castorkin are you an expert on partition management?	10:55
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troy_castorkin	thotel2 nop...what's problem? :)	10:55
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thotel2	this is my hd current situation:	10:55
thotel2	[img] http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/palemmo/guida/gparted1.png[/img]	10:55
thotel2	I want to resize the hda1 ext3 containing kubuntu(home and root) togheter, in order to use all the unallocated space. But to act on ext3 I have to umount it, so I must use a live linux...but also with live kubu the situation does't change.... How can I?	10:55
thotel2	Selecting the ext3 as you can see all the buttons are disabled:	10:55
thotel2	[IMG] http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/palemmo/guida/gparted2.png[/IMG]	10:55
thotel2	thanks	10:55
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defcon_	fixed	10:56
defcon_	ok how do I get firestarter to run without me entering the sudo password each time	10:56
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thotel2	troy_castorkin: can you help me?	10:57
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troy_castorkin	hmmm	10:58
troy_castorkin	thotel2 live-cd?	10:58
klabezo	hiiiiii all how ru	10:58
troy_castorkin	thotel2 did you try live-cd?	10:59
thotel2	yes	10:59
troy_castorkin	thotel2 and?	10:59
thotel2	was blocked too	10:59
klabezo	i want to ask you about something	10:59
troy_castorkin	thotel2 mount ext3 part for write	11:00
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klabezo	how can I install emacs editor for kubuntu	11:00
troy_castorkin	?	11:00
thotel2	be easy I'm not an expert	11:00
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^RiaN^	troy_castorkin: can u help me	11:00
thotel2	troy_castorkin: using the live cd	11:01
kumamoto	klabezo: sudo aptitude install emacs	11:01
troy_castorkin	thotel2 boot with live-cd and mount ext 3	11:01
kumamoto	!emacs	11:01
ubotu	Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) \| Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). \| HTML/CSS editors: !html \| Programming: !code	11:01
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thotel2	ah	11:01
thotel2	that's clear	11:01
thotel2	and than?	11:01
thotel2	umount?	11:02
troy_castorkin	thotel2 what's mean clear/	11:02
troy_castorkin	?	11:02
tmbg	tmbg@kory:~/Desktop$ pornview; gtkxine: auto-detecting video driver... ; Segmentation fault (core dumped) <--- anyone with ANY idea what's up with that, /msg me	11:02
thotel2	is not true that to operate on a partition this should be umounted?	11:02
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troy_castorkin	thotel2 i can't understand you? i think that partition must be mount befor changes ))	11:03
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Ace2016	defcon_: use "ls -l .dmrc" to check the permissions of the file, mine is -rwxrwxrwx 1 ace ace 26 2007-04-06 16:23 .dmrc	11:04
^RiaN^	who's here already install gunbound	11:04
thotel2	listen on sda1 there is the current kubuntu...the only thing that i want is expand sda1 and have more space...but to operate on sda1 this should be umounted not?	11:05
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Ace2016	thotel2: are you expanding it in qtparted?	11:05
thotel2	yes	11:05
thotel2	also	11:05
thotel2	cause I have le kubuntu live	11:05
Ace2016	thotel2: to expand and shrink partitions they have to be unmounted, didn't the dialogue in qtparted tell you that?	11:06
troy_castorkin	Ace2016 he cant' cuz this curred linux ext3 partition	11:06
thotel2	in fact	11:06
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troy_castorkin	Ace2016 *current	11:06
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thotel2	but in a live execution sda1 should be umounted not?	11:06
klabezo	i want to know how can i download and install emacs	11:07
Ace2016	should be unmounted if your shrinking or expanding it	11:07
thotel2	http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/palemmo/guida/gparted2.png	11:07
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thotel2	Ace2016: here is my gparted image	11:07
reldruh	klabezo: have you tried installing it with adept?	11:07
Ace2016	thotel2: gparted? isn't that ubuntu?	11:08
klabezo	no i have no idia about it	11:08
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thotel2	i know...i have installed it....on the currente kubuntu there is gparted...while in live editione there will be qtparted	11:09
reldruh	klabezo: OK, first open up the K- menu. Adept should be the first entry in the system folder	11:09
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Ace2016	klabezo: add and remove programs in the start menu	11:09
klabezo	ok	11:09
klabezo	but dose it as a part of the kubuntu dest ??	11:09
Ace2016	i think its from the repos	11:10
klabezo	i search about it in the cd i found nothing	11:10
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thotel2	nothing?	11:11
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klabezo	nothing about emacs	11:11
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reldruh	klabezo: Adept will find it and install it from wherever it's most readily available	11:11
Jucato	klabezo: no, it's not in the CD's. you have to install it using the online repositorires (use Add/Remove or Adept Manager)	11:12
defcon_	how do I autostart programs like firestarter without requiring a root password?	11:12
troy_castorkin	thotel2 i think you cant' under current linux resize your partition	11:12
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klabezo	i have no internet connection in the pc i want to install it	11:12
Ace2016	defcon_: add the nopassword option for that command into your /etc/passwd	11:13
thotel2	that is what i said....:(	11:13
troy_castorkin	thotel2 i think it can be only under live-cd	11:13
klabezo	i want a .deb file or any other way to download it	11:13
troy_castorkin	thotel2 i haven't livecd?	11:13
defcon_	Ace2016, nopassword option?	11:13
troy_castorkin	thotel2 you haven't livecd?	11:13
defcon_	after than how do I start it up auto	11:13
thotel2	gparted or qtparted give an error message if I tray to operate on a mounted partition	11:14
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Ace2016	thotel2: then unmount it	11:14
thotel2	so Ace2016 you suggest to mount and than umount?	11:15
troy_castorkin	Ace2016 how he can unmounted current ext3 part in linux?	11:15
thotel2	in a live execution	11:15
thotel2	that is obvious	11:15
Ace2016	defcon_: open /etc/sudoers using kdesu kwrite, add username ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firestarter, replace username with your username	11:16
thotel2	i tray this	11:16
thotel2	bye	11:16
Ace2016	bye	11:16
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troy_castorkin	live execution = boot from live-cd	11:16
troy_castorkin	?	11:16
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Ace2016	troy_castorkin: yea he was using the live-cd	11:19
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troy_castorkin	Ace2016 ))))	11:22
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defcon_	Ace2016, now that I edited my visudo file/sudoers file how do I set firestarter to autostart	11:26
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marko	can we use http://recaptcha.net to translate strings ?	11:30
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JohnFlux_	I have a DVD that I cannot play	11:41
JohnFlux_	I've gotten 2 replacements, and none of them work	11:41
JohnFlux_	the DVD isn't recognised	11:41
ubuntu_	do you have the codecs?	11:42
JohnFlux_	mplayer just says device not found, for example	11:42
ubuntu_	!dvd	11:42
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	11:42
JohnFlux_	I have no problems with any other dvds	11:42
JohnFlux_	just not this particular dvd	11:42
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ubuntu_	"sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2"	11:42
JohnFlux_	i have 3 copies of this same dvd (I complained twice)	11:42
ubuntu_	oh, so you have thoes?	11:42
JohnFlux_	ubuntu: are you listening to me? :)	11:42
JohnFlux_	:-)	11:42
ubuntu_	are you answering my question?	11:43
JohnFlux_	yes, every other dvd's work fine	11:43
ubuntu_	so you installed the codecs?	11:43
JohnFlux_	:-)	11:43
JohnFlux_	yes	11:43
ubuntu_	ok	11:43
ubuntu_	DRM on the DVD?	11:43
JohnFlux_	yeah I think it's some crappy protection	11:43
ubuntu_	what are you using to play the DVD?	11:44
JohnFlux_	mplayer, but the dvd isn't being recognised as being inserted	11:45
JohnFlux_	cat /dev/hdc	11:45
JohnFlux_	cat: /dev/hdc: No medium found	11:45
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JohnFlux_	hdc is the dvd drive	11:45
ubuntu_	bad DVD?	11:46
JohnFlux_	I've got 3 copies of this 1 dvd	11:46
JohnFlux_	I complained twice about bad copies	11:46
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Ace2016	defcon: install kcontrol-autostart then you'll be able to make new startup items in kcontrol, add kdesu firestarter to run on startup	11:47
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blackflag	!slp	11:47
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about slp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	11:47
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defcon	Ace2016, thankyou	11:47
binks_	is the begginer tutorial for kdevelop a good place to start for me if i never programmed c++ before	11:47
blackflag	!openslp	11:47
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about openslp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	11:47
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ubuntu_	do you think i would get better fps in beryl using a ati radeon 7000ve or a intel 845?	11:48
Jucato	binks_: hm... might be good to start learning C++ independently of an IDE first. just a plain text editor will do while you're still learning	11:48
Ace2016	binks_: have a look at http://www.kdevelop.org/	11:48
JohnFlux_	ubuntu: ati is evil.	11:48
JohnFlux_	ubuntu_: their drivers are the worst of them all	11:49
Ace2016	ubuntu_: >IF< you get it to work, the ati, otherwise the intel	11:49
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ubuntu_	well im using the ati now	11:49
ubuntu_	its so old it cant use flgrx	11:49
ubuntu_	it is the oldest ati card supported in linux, period	11:49
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binks_	Ace2016: Jucato cheers any idea of a good place to start i already done a little vb in doze but want a nix language and then a gui creating tool	11:49
ubuntu_	64mb	11:50
ubuntu_	agp	11:50
ubuntu_	so would that be better than the chipset gfx? i know it isnt better than the new 945's but i dont know about the 845's	11:50
Jucato	(well, c++ isn't really just a *nix language....but...)	11:50
binks_	Jucato: im an open book what do you suggest	11:51
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Ace2016	qt4 for gui apps, since they'll run on windows too	11:51
binks_	all i want is to be able to create gui ,s for cmd line apps	11:51
Jucato	binks_: oh C++ is fine. I'm just clarifiying that it's not really a language just for *nix :)	11:51
Jucato	binks_: some links that might help (maybe) http://del.icio.us/jucato/"C++"	11:52
binks_	Jucato: yes i no but its better than vb	11:52
binks_	Ace2016: is there a good begginer tut for qt4 yet as i never programmed in qt b4	11:53
Jucato	binks_: as for the GUI part, there is no exact 1:1 counterpart of VB for C++. I mean that you will have to learn another library on top of C++ to be able to make GUI's	11:53
Jucato	so you will have to learn C++ then the GUI toolkit library of your choice	11:53
binks_	i was considering PyQt4 but cant find a starter tutorial that is from the ground up	11:53
Jucato	well, PyQt is the Python bindings (wrapper) for Qt	11:54
Jucato	so you'll have to learn Python	11:54
binks_	how long does the average person take to learn c++	11:54
JohnFlux_	PyQt is fairly nice place to start	11:54
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JohnFlux_	binks_: how long does it take to learn math? :)	11:54
Jucato	binks_: http://www.research.att.com/~bs/bs_faq.html#How-long	11:54
binks_	i read that python is easier to learn coz its readable	11:54
JohnFlux_	binks_: depends how good you want to be really	11:54
kraut	moin	11:55
Ace2016	short answer is you never stop learning, sure you can learn the syntax but you'll always find cool ways to use it	11:55
binks_	oooh choices so many roads which to take sigh	11:56
^RiaN^	hii alll	11:56
binks_	Jucato: nice link cheers for that	11:57
binks_	Jucato: nice links cheers for that	11:57
binks_	lol	11:57
Jucato	:)	11:57
Jucato	my road has been a bit easier to choose :)	11:58
Jucato	C++ -> Qt -> KDE :D	11:58
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binks_	ideal would be c++ but the learning curve scares me abit im 36 now so not a spring chicken	11:58
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^RiaN^	someone one which the best beetween crossover pro and crossover server	11:59
Jucato	binks_: the only learning curve you get from C++ if you've never programmed (properly) before would be the learning curve that comes from learning programming concepts. of course there's the object-oriented programming learning curve too	12:00
blackflag	!zeroconf	12:01
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about zeroconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:01
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binks_	ive used vb.net so oops is fine i get that bit its me ok ok c++ i wanted to for 2 years now so last q. best book and best link to use	12:04
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Jucato	the book I'm reading now is Deitel's C++ How to Program (make sure it's the 5th edition). it's quite good	12:06
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selolie	Hi!	12:06
troy	selolie hi	12:06
Jucato	binks_: oh btw, just one big recommendation. if you're going to look for books or resources, make sure they're compliant with ANSI/ISO Standard C++. books published on or after 1998 usually are	12:06
selolie	i have a question about amarok	12:07
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selolie	where there is writing "title" " "artist" ... waht is "score" ?	12:08
troy	score - your mark for song	12:09
JohnFlux_	selolie: how often you listen to it etc	12:09
selolie	:) thank u	12:10
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kristjan_	how can I stop knotify from starting automatically even though system sounds are disabled and arts shut down	12:10
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binks_	Jucato: thanks alot im off out just now so ill catch ya later if i get stuck am i alright to ask help here or should i keep it to c++ channels	12:10
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Jucato	binks_: yep. there's a ##c++ channel. might want to drop by there and see the topic for helpful links	12:11
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tahsin	hello	12:13
tahsin	why do i get this error C compiler cannot create executable ?	12:13
Karti	Hi all. Wonder if there are some wireless experts that have a few moments to help?	12:13
tahsin	?	12:14
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Karti	I have a clean install with a Belkin F5D7050 v4000	12:14
Jucato	tahsin: install "build-essential"	12:14
ardchoille	tahsin: sudo apt-get install build-essential	12:14
Karti	It appears to working but no internet or network access	12:14
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tahsin	i did that	12:15
tahsin	its already there	12:15
Karti	all help is appreciated ;)	12:15
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tahsin	Jucato: i did that	12:15
tahsin	ardchoille: this package is already installed	12:16
aro	hello, where does 'apt-get source kopete -d' output the sources??	12:16
aro	they are not at /usr/src	12:16
ardchoille	tahsin: Ok	12:16
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tahsin	ardchoille: what so i do now ?	12:16
tahsin	ardchoille: im trying to install baghira	12:17
ardchoille	tahsin: I suggested that because it solved my problem, which was the same thing you had.	12:17
ardchoille	tahsin: baghira is in the repos	12:17
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tahsin	ardchoille: is there a easy way to install baghira ?	12:17
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ardchoille	tahsin: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira . always check the repos before compiling	12:17
Jucato	aro: -d is redundant. it downloads in the current directory	12:17
tahsin	ok let me try it	12:18
ardchoille	tahsin: apt-cache search appname <--to search the repos	12:18
aro	Jucato: Ou, wow, I see	12:18
aro	the directory ist knetwork	12:18
aro	thx	12:19
tahsin	ardchoille: let me try	12:19
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ardchoille	!info kwin-baghira	12:19
ubotu	kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (feisty), package size 750 kB, installed size 2132 kB	12:19
tahsin	ardchoille: i found apt-cacher	12:20
ardchoille	tahsin: apt-cache search	12:20
ardchoille	tahsin: apt-cache search whatever-you-are-searching-for-here	12:20
tahsin	ardchoille: i didnt get u	12:21
tahsin	ardchoille: i found apt-cacher in adept	12:21
ardchoille	tahsin: Open a terminal and type: apt-cache search baghira	12:21
tahsin	ok	12:21
^RiaN^	ardchoille: what player can play .mov format	12:21
tahsin	ardchoille: it says KDE theme for Apple junkies :)	12:22
ardchoille	^RiaN^: I don't kow, I don't mess with video/music stuff	12:22
tahsin	ardchoille: now what do i do ?	12:22
^RiaN^	:)	12:22
ardchoille	tahsin: That's the one, now type: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira	12:22
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ardchoille	tahsin: See the beginning of the "apple junkies.." line?	12:23
ardchoille	kwin-baghira - KDE theme for Apple junkies :)	12:23
aro	another question	12:23
aro	i like to patch kopete	12:23
ardchoille	That tells you that the package name is kwin-baghira, so that is what you install	12:23
tahsin	tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira	12:23
tahsin	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)	12:23
tahsin	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?	12:23
tahsin	tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~$	12:23
aro	with that emoticon manager	12:23
tahsin	ardchoille: i got that error	12:23
ardchoille	tahsin: Close adept	12:23
tahsin	ok	12:23
aro	patch -p1 < /path/to/kopete.patch doesnt work	12:23
Karti	any wireless experts?	12:23
tahsin	ardchoille: thanks its installing i guess	12:24
ardchoille	tahsin: adpet, synaptic, apt-get all use APT as the backend, no two apps can use it at one time	12:24
tahsin	ardchoille: thanks for the info	12:24
tahsin	ardchoille: im a newbie	12:24
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elkhanos	Karti not promising anything but probably better that you just ask the question	12:24
ardchoille	tahsin: When it's installed, you can tweak baghira settings in kcontrol in the Appearance & Themes section	12:25
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ardchoille	tahsin: Everyone was a newbie once.. except for maybe Linus :)	12:25
tahsin	ardchoille: ya its done let me try	12:25
ubuntu	hi all	12:25
Karti	I have a clean install with a Belkin F5D7050 v4000	12:25
Karti	It appears to working but no internet or network access	12:25
elkhanos	how does it 'appear' to work?	12:26
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Karti	iwconfig gives me link quality 98/100 and signal level 30/100 so it must see it	12:26
ubuntu	i've got a question, i'm installing kubuntu as dual boot (windows), what's the difference between choosing /media/sda1 or /windows as mounting point for my windows partition?	12:26
ardchoille	ubuntu: Personal preference	12:27
elkhanos	what happens when you do sudo ifup wlan0	12:27
ubuntu	does it change anything to acces the partition later on ?	12:27
tahsin	ardchoille: now what do i do ? im in kcontrol but cant find baghira	12:27
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Karti	I did a clean install and it opicked it up as eth0 and I have not changed that	12:28
ardchoille	tahsin: Click Appearance & Themes in the left list	12:28
ubuntu	like if i choose /media i know i can acces it through the system menu	12:28
tahsin	ardchoille: yup then	12:28
ardchoille	tahsin: Then go into the Style section	12:28
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ardchoille	tahsin: I believe it'll be in the list under "Widget Style"	12:28
tahsin	ardchoille: yupo then	12:28
elkhanos	ok so try ifuping eth0 instead?	12:28
elkhanos	personally I just use knetworkmanager	12:29
ardchoille	tahsin: Be prepared to do a lot of tweaking, there are lots of settings for baghira	12:29
tahsin	ardchoille: yeah found it	12:29
tahsin	ardchoille: i will be back	12:29
Karti	elkhanos: I tried that and it says ethernet already up	12:29
ardchoille	tahsin: Don't forget the "Configure" button on the right	12:29
elkhanos	it has it's flaws for sure but works mostly	12:29
Karti	elkhanos: sorry it actually says interface eth0 already configured	12:30
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Jahmon	ardchoille: does it change anything to acces the partition later on ? like if i choose /media i know i can acces it quickly through the system menu	12:30
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elkhanos	Karti maybe just try cycling it with ifdown and then ifup it again?	12:31
Karti	to add I can't ping any of my internal ip addresses	12:31
Karti	will try now	12:31
elkhanos	karti is your AP encrypted?	12:31
ardchoille	Jahmon: It should always be where it is mounted, if you mount it at the same place everytime, you can just as well bookmark the mopuntpoint	12:31
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Jahmon	okay thanks ;-)	12:32
ardchoille	You're welcome :)	12:32
bat17	I have Suse10 and WinowsXP already installed using the Grub loader, will Kubuntu pick up these two Ok when it installs and give me a choice of all 3?	12:32
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ardchoille	bat17: It did for me.	12:32
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bat17	thanks, I like KDE but dont like the Menu/Yast in Suze so still playing :)	12:33
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tahsin_	.im back	12:33
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tahsin_	ardchoille: now what do i do ?	12:34
tahsin_	ardchoille: i want to make it OS X look alike	12:34
ardchoille	tahsin_: Tweak baghira to look the way you want :)	12:34
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ardchoille	tahsin_: Now comew the time to play in the settings.. which is the fun part :)	12:34
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elkhanos	tahsin http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php	12:34
Karti	elkhanos: tried the up and down and although it works still no difference. It is encrypted and I entered the password and the SSID	12:34
adaptr	tahsin_ score an aqua theme from somewhere	12:35
ardchoille	elkhanos: Wow, thanks for that link.	12:35
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ardchoille	tahsin_: Just so you know, http://www.kde-look.org is a very nice themes site.	12:35
elkhanos	always a pleasure never a chore ;-)	12:35
elkhanos	Karti are you using wep or wpa?	12:36
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Contrast	Greets, everyone...	12:36
elkhanos	karti also when you do ifconfig can you see that the correct interface has been assigned an ip number or not?	12:36
tahsin_	ardchoille: how do i get the menu bar	12:37
Contrast	Would anyone have an idea as to why I can't get to the Monitor & Display section when running KControl as root?	12:37
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Karti	elkhanos: I have just checked on this one it looks like my BT hub is .254 rather than .1 for the gateway - brb just changing the details	12:38
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ardchoille	tahsin_: In kcontrol, go to the Dekstop -> Behaviour section and look under "Menu bar at top of screen".	12:38
ardchoille	tahsin_:	12:39
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ardchoille	tahsin_: There are two different styles	12:39
tahsin__	ardchoille: sorry got disconnected	12:39
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tahsin__	ardchoille: yeah so ..	12:39
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ardchoille	In kcontrol, go to the Dekstop -> Behaviour section and look under "Menu bar at top of screen"	12:40
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tahsin__	ardchoille: yeah found mac os style	12:41
tahsin__	ardchoille: do i select that ?	12:41
ardchoille	tahsin__: Have you read the tutorial elkhanos pasted?	12:41
elkhanos	lol	12:42
tahsin__	ardchoille: nope where do i get it ?	12:42
ardchoille	tahsin__: You should read it, it will likely help you much more than I can	12:42
ardchoille	tahsin__: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php	12:42
ardchoille	I haven't used baghira in ages	12:42
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tahsin__	ardchoille: okay thanks a lot if i have any problem then ill come back to you	12:42
ardchoille	tahsin__: Wow, that tutorial is quite nice too	12:42
elkhanos	me either much prefer Domino with Beryl	12:42
tahsin__	ardchoille: yeah but is it for newbies ?	12:43
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ardchoille	tahsin__: Seems to be easy to follow	12:43
elkhanos	tahsin once you've been though it you'll be less of a newbie ;-)	12:43
ardchoille	I may install baghira again	12:43
ardchoille	elkhanos: lol	12:43
tahsin__	elkhanos: yeah ur right lol	12:44
tahsin__	ardchoille: im trying that	12:44
elkhanos	tahsin seriously though I used it whe I first got in to using linux and it was very useful for learning my way around things and getting the hang of following tutorials, which there can be a lot of in linux	12:44
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tahsin__	elkhanos: yeah i guess ur rught	12:45
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ardchoille	tahsin__: Don't worry about step 1, since you already have baghira	12:46
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tahsin__	ardchoille: which one is the baghira conguration dialog?	12:46
elkhanos	Karti how you getting on?	12:46
tahsin__	ardchoille: im in step 2	12:46
ardchoille	tahsin__: in kcontrol, click the "Configure" button next to the "Widget" section	12:46
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Karti	elkhanos: Sorry for the delay its on a different machine and I am using a kvm	12:47
tahsin__	ardchoille: thn	12:47
tahsin__	thnx	12:47
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elkhanos	tahsin the bit that took me longest was the icons so here's a tip straight off the bat do sudo apt-get install imagemagick	12:48
ardchoille	tahsin__: I believe you can also type: bab in a terminal and get a systray icon for tweaking	12:48
Karti	elkhanos: Looks like it is sorted. I gave it a static ip address and set the gateway and dns to my BT Hub and i can ping yahoo and internally	12:48
elkhanos	Karti no probs just my crossed fingers are getting stiff :-)	12:48
ardchoille	elkhanos: IMHO, that should come with the base install	12:48
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tahsin__	ardchoille: let me try	12:48
Karti	I also tried it with dhcp but it gave me really funny ip address returns so static it is	12:48
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ardchoille	tahsin__: Ah, yeah, that's in step 3	12:48
elkhanos	ardchoille I agree	12:49
Karti	elkhanos: lol	12:49
tahsin__	failed to open device	12:49
ardchoille	tahsin__: Do you have wacom devices?	12:49
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elkhanos	Karti so you are up and running?	12:49
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ardchoille	!search wacom	12:49
ubotu	Found:	12:50
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Karti	all set up and complete	12:50
ardchoille	Stupid bot	12:50
elkhanos	sweeet!	12:50
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Karti	just need to complete the install with those dodgy codecs and the like. Many thanks for your help and those pointers	12:50
tahsin__	ardchoille: nope dnt knw what ur talking about :s	12:51
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Karti	set up Konversation on the new one and I can drop this windows ;)	12:51
Karti	brb	12:51
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ardchoille	tahsin__: You should follow that tutorial rather than ask me because I haven't used baghira in ages and the tutorial author knows what he's doing.	12:52
davide	salve,qualcuno mi puo' illuminare sul che cosa e' un ripostisotry?	12:52
elkhanos	!es	12:52
ubotu	Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	12:52
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tahsin	sorry again	12:52
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tahsin	so why did i get failed to open device?	12:53
ardchoille	tahsin__: Probably because you have wacom stuff uncommented in xorg.conf and you have no wacom devices	12:53
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tahsin	ardchoille: whats a wacom device ?	12:54
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malik__	how do i close tabs with middle click in konqi in kubuntu fiesty?	12:54
ardchoille	tahsin: Tablet-type pc	12:54
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MrC	hi fellows	12:55
tahsin	ardchoille: nope im on a real pc	12:55
Hirvinen	!grub	12:55
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	12:55
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ardchoille	tahsin: I got rid of that error message by commenting out all the wacom stuff in xorg.conf.	12:55
tahsin	ardchoille: but im connected through a mobile	12:55
MrC	has anyone in here tried LinuxMint?	12:55
ardchoille	!wacom	12:56
tahsin	ardchoille: what do i do ?	12:56
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:56
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ardchoille	tahsin: First thing I would suggest is: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup	12:57
ardchoille	tahsin: Then open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor and comment the wacom stuff: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf	12:58
ardchoille	But, be careful with that file, you're editing as root user.	12:58
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MrC	i was wondering if i could/need to do a dual-boot if i install other linux distro,has anyone done that?	12:58
tahsin	ardchoille: didnt get the second part	12:58
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MrC	I am thinking to try out LinuxMint ,so do you guys/gals know if i can do that without meesing up too much with my system	12:59
ardchoille	tahsin: paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to http://pastebin.ca/ I'll show you how to edit it	01:00
tahsin	oka	01:00
rothchild	tahsin 4th post in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435864	01:00
tahsin	okay	01:00
ardchoille	tahsin: Did you backup xorg.conf like I suggested?	01:00
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Contrast83	Xorg doesn't keep per-user settings anywhere, does it?	01:01
ardchoille	tahsin: See the link rothchild pasted, that is exactly how I did mine.	01:01
tahsin	ok	01:01
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Contrast83	(I'm trying to figure out why the screen flickers when I log into KDE, as it didn't used to do that, and I'm assuming it has to do with either something I've done in KControl's Monitor & Display section - while not root - or xorg.conf).	01:02
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ardchoille	rothchild: Thanks.. no need or me to type when there's a tutorial out there :)	01:03
sivaji	!pastebin	01:03
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	01:03
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Contrast83	KControl is also listing different resolution options than what's in xorg.conf. :-\	01:04
tahsin	ardchoille: commenting out means removing right ?	01:04
rothchild	tahsin not quite, if you put a # infront of any line of code it means it won't be read	01:05
ardchoille	tahsin: No, it doesn't. Did you read the tutorial link rothchild pasted?	01:05
Contrast83	tahsin, no. Just put "##" at the beginning of the line it's on.	01:05
rothchild	lol x2	01:05
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sivaji	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22559/ installation error	01:06
ardchoille	tahsin: There will be a lot of reading required in your Linux "life", it's a good idea to read stuff that people post for you :)	01:06
tahsin	ardchoille: okay	01:06
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Contrast83	Very true. I was only so quick to give an easy answer because I was going crazy trying to find out what that meant when I first started with Linux.	01:06
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MrC	LinuxMint distribution of the GNU/Linux operating system which purpose is to produce an elegant, up to date and comfortable GNU/Linux desktop. Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, compatible with it and shares the same repositories.	01:08
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tahsin	ardchoille: how can i be sure whether im doing the right thing can you guys check it out ?	01:08
Contrast83	Did anyone see my question on KControl/xorg.conf?	01:08
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MrC	so does anyone knows if is necessary to creat a dual-boot to install it side by side of Ubuntu/Kubuntu?	01:08
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Contrast83	MrC, yes.	01:08
ardchoille	tahsin: Sure, you can pastebin a file and someone will have a look.	01:09
tahsin	ardchoille: http://pastebin.ca/511293	01:09
tahsin	ardchoille: is it ok ? do i save it ?	01:09
Blissex	Contrast83: if you want, repeat a quesiton in full every 10 minutes or so... It may take time for someone who is interested or knows to appear.	01:09
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ardchoille	tahsin: You missed the three lines near the bottom	01:10
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Contrast83	Anytime it's two different distributions (and not just the same distribution with different desktop environments, e.g., K/X/Ubuntu), you have to dual-boot.	01:10
Contrast83	Thanks, Blissex	01:10
ardchoille	tahsin: You need to also comment lines 139, 140 and 141	01:10
tahsin	ardchoille: oh sorry i forgot	01:10
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Blissex	Contrast83: BTW if it is a KControl question maybe it is not Ubuntu specific, try #KDE.	01:11
Contrast83	'Preciate it.	01:11
Contrast83	I'm thinking it's more of a Xorg issue. Try #xorg?	01:11
tahsin	ardchoille: http://pastebin.ca/511296	01:11
tahsin	ardchoille: is it okay now ?	01:12
ardchoille	tahsin: That looks good. Nwo save the file.	01:12
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tahsin	ok	01:12
tahsin	ardchoille: done	01:12
ardchoille	Nwo you have to restart X which requires you to logout and hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE	01:13
Contrast83	What's the problem you're trying to solve, tahsin? Just curious.	01:14
tahsin	contrast83: failed to open a device or something	01:14
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ardchoille	Contrast83: KDE kept trying to initialise wacom devices (due to xorg content) and he doesn't have any	01:14
tahsin	contrast83: im working with baghira at the moment	01:14
tahsin	ardchoille: now...baghira	01:15
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Contrast83	Ohh ok. Was it causing serious problems, or just annoying, albeit harmless, errors when opening programs from the terminal?	01:15
ardchoille	tahsin: RE: baghira, I do't want to risk giving you bad info, so it's probably better for you to follow that tutorial	01:15
tahsin	ardchoille: okay no prob	01:16
ardchoille	Seems to be better than I can help anyway	01:16
rothchild	tahsin I just looked at the tutorial I'd say follow it up to stage 7 and then come back to us because the bits below there are a bit out of date	01:16
ardchoille	rothchild: I'll probably be asking you questions about it too :)	01:17
tahsin	rothchild: thanks let me come to step 7 first	01:17
tahsin	lot of reading	01:17
rothchild	no problem	01:17
ardchoille	lol, this is just the beginning, my friend.	01:17
rothchild	just go slow and concentrate on being accurate	01:18
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tahsin	i think i need help in step 2	01:19
tahsin	from baghira has a session manager.......	01:20
tahsin	furthermore i cant add apllets with the right click	01:20
Blissex	as to Wacom device opens, by default they are configured in xorg.conf ''just in case'' but not many people have them. The relevant section of the 'xorg.conf' can be deleted and also the reference to it in the rest of the config.	01:20
tahsin	ardchoillo: right click on the menu bar isnt working	01:20
rothchild	tahsin sorry i'm stumped	01:24
tahsin	rothchild: no prob	01:24
tahsin	rothchild: but the right click on the panel menu isnt working	01:24
rothchild	tahsin when I used baghiral I only used it for the look rather than the whole osx working practice, it's acually better when you build a hybrid imo	01:25
tahsin	rothchild: so im unable to add any applet	01:25
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tahsin	i c	01:25
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sivaji	64 bit processor consumes 64 bit to store a unit data in memory ,whereas 32bit processor consumes 32bit to store a unit of data , it means 64 bit is not efficient is it so	01:26
rothchild	tahsin are you saying there is no rightclick menu or there is not the baghira applett to add?	01:27
tahsin	rothchild: when i right click on the panel nothing happens	01:27
tahsin	rothchild: but i guess an add applet option should be there right?	01:28
rothchild	tahsin what happens if you rightclick on the regular kicker bar at the bottom of the screen?	01:28
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tahsin	rothchild: thats working fine ...i get the add applet option on the regular 1 but not on the top panel	01:29
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rothchild	can you see the baghira starter option in that menu?	01:29
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tahsin	rothchild: yes i can	01:29
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tahsin	rothchild: i think i got it working	01:30
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rothchild	tahin good stuff keep plugging away at it you'll be fine	01:30
tahsin	rothchild: how do i shorten the panel	01:31
tahsin	rothchild: shorten its length	01:31
rothchild	I gotta go now sorry real world awaits!	01:31
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tahsin	rothchild: lol okay thanks for the help	01:31
tahsin	cheers !	01:31
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rothchild	tahsin good luck!	01:31
Ace2016	Hi all	01:32
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sivaji	my system hang when i play games why ?	01:32
Ace2016	can someone help me increase my refresh rate? its stuck at 50 :( dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did not help	01:32
Ace2016	sivaji: drivers?	01:32
Ace2016	sivaji: is it an ati card?	01:32
sivaji	no	01:32
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Ace2016	have you installed all the correct drivers? and can your system fast enough to run the game? (what game is it?)	01:33
sivaji	how to install drivers	01:34
Ace2016	sivaji: what graphics card do you have	01:34
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Ace2016	???	01:34
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sivaji	i dont know	01:35
troy	sivaji S3? ^)	01:35
sivaji	i dont know is there any way to see graphic card installed or not	01:35
troy	sivaji try to see on graphic card ))	01:36
Ace2016	sivaji: run lspci from konsole, from that list can you identify your graphics card?	01:36
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Jucato	the fact that you can see this on your monitor means you have a graphics card installed.	01:36
Jucato	lspci \| grep -i vga	01:37
sivaji	!pastebin	01:38
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	01:38
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sivaji	sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ lspci \| grep -i vga	01:38
sivaji	0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)	01:38
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Jucato	troy: wow! smart guess :)	01:39
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troy	muahaaa	01:39
tahsin	ardchoille: u there?	01:40
tahsin	X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166	01:40
tahsin	Major opcode: 144	01:40
tahsin	Minor opcode: 3	01:40
tahsin	Resource id: 0x0	01:40
tahsin	Failed to open device	01:40
sivaji	troy ple tell whether it is install or not	01:40
tahsin	y do i get this ?	01:40
troy	sivaji i'm sure that installed )))	01:41
Ace2016	tahsin: ignore that, it does nothing	01:41
sivaji	then why my system hang when i play 3d games	01:41
troy	tahsin i'm have this trouble too )	01:41
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troy	sivaji cuz' your video very "fast"	01:42
tahsin	ace2016: im working with baghira and it says me to type bab in konsole and when i typed that i got this	01:42
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troy	sivaji "fast" = damn old	01:42
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sivaji	troy i cant get u	01:43
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krysiu	hi all	01:43
Ace2016	tahsin: its caused by the stupid wacom stuff ubuntu add to startup, so if you don't have a wacom tablet mouse thing it gives the error, quite simple to get rid of though	01:43
troy	sivaji try to change your video card man	01:43
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sivaji	troy how	01:43
tahsin	ace2016: i did that but im still having the error	01:44
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troy	sivaji for example buy )	01:45
Jucato	Ace2016: it's not for wacom tablet though	01:46
Ace2016	tahsin: run kdesu kwrite, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, go down to the Section "ServerLayout" at the end, and put a # in front of: InputDevice "stylus" "cursor" and "eraser" now restart the computer and they'll go away	01:46
Jucato	Ace2016: he is gone	01:46
Ace2016	:(	01:46
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sivaji	troy but windows supports all games	01:47
Ace2016	what gave are you trying to play?	01:47
troy	sivaji yeah..what's games?	01:47
troy	sivaji zuma or smth else?	01:48
sivaji	troy windows supports all games but kubuntu doesnt supports even 2d games	01:49
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Ace2016	bye all	01:49
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troy	sivaji what's games support windows	01:50
troy	?	01:50
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troy	sivaji cleverly opinion - install new drivers...but for this video......	01:52
sivaji	troy windows supports all games need for speed , nightfire ,quake 3 arena	01:52
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Jucato	troy: the ones that were made in partnership with MS :D	01:52
sivaji	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22563/ dpkg crashed	01:54
troy	Jucato )))	01:54
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luke__	can somebody please tell me how to downgrade Feisty from KDE 3.5.7 to KDE 3.5.6	01:56
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luke__	KDE 3.5.7 causes more problems than it solves	01:56
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sivaji	troy: ple help me see that link	02:00
Admiral_Chicago	for some reason I keep expecting someone to yell "Jucato!! :)"	02:00
Jucato	Admiral_Chicago: intelikey's not here :)	02:01
Admiral_Chicago	haha.	02:01
belsebub	after an upgrade from edgy to feisty yesterday, i can no longer post in my forum... (apache 2 -> 2.2 is the most apparent change, but i've configured those the same)	02:01
AFaith	hello people!i've got a question about KDE	02:01
AFaith	is it really thatthe 3.5.7 version was launched ?	02:02
AFaith	btw, hello Admiral_Chicago! i know you :P	02:02
Admiral_Chicago	AFaith: yes 3.5.7 is the latest version, it has kubuntu packages as well	02:02
belsebub	the forum software is xennobb, which official website is offline	02:02
AFaith	Admiral_Chicago: kubuntu packages :D ?	02:02
Admiral_Chicago	kubuntu.org	02:03
Admiral_Chicago	the news is on there and it'll link you to the latest repo	02:03
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AFaith	i see :-?	02:03
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AFaith	any personal impressions about kde 3.5.7 for kubuntu ?	02:03
Admiral_Chicago	i haven't noticed a big difference at all	02:04
belsebub	aren't they just fixing bugs now in 3.5.x	02:04
Jucato	they sneaked in a few small new features too	02:05
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AFaith	i see... i	02:05
AFaith	i'm waiting for kde4	02:05
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AFaith	i've heard that will be a very very different release	02:05
Jucato	longish wait :)	02:05
belsebub	we all do :)	02:05
AFaith	i might say revolutionary	02:05
Jucato	of course it will be very very different	02:05
Jucato	hm.. revolutionary? don't expect too much from the 4.0 release	02:06
AFaith	have you used the alpha/beta release ?	02:06
AFaith	Jucato: why not ?	02:06
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Admiral_Chicago	AFaith: i used the alpha, catostophic failure...nothing launched	02:06
stuwar44	kde4 is not kde4.0	02:06
Jucato	KDE 4 refers to the whole release cycle for the KDE 4 series	02:06
Jucato	and as stuwar44 said, KDE 4 is not KDE 4.0	02:06
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AFaith	a bit confused	02:07
Jucato	KDE 4.0 is the first (major) release for the KDE 4 series	02:07
AFaith	are you telling me that kde4 is not the same with kde 4.0	02:07
stuwar44	kde4 is kde4.0, kde4.1 and so on	02:07
Jucato	AFaith: technically, yes	02:07
stuwar44	the best version will be the kde 4.6 or so	02:07
stuwar44	the latest before kde 5	02:07
Jucato	KDE 4 refers to the whole release cycle for the KDE 4 series: KDE 4.0, KDE 4.0.1, etc. KDE 4.1, KDE 4.1.1, etc. up to KDE 4.x	02:08
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Jucato	AFaith: KDE 4 is a "life cycle". KDE 4.0 up to KDE 4.whatever are release for the KDE 4 cycle	02:08
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AFaith	i see...	02:09
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erik_	hi all	02:09
Jucato	AFaith: the reason I said not to expect too much from KDE 4.0 is that it's the first release. they are treading on new territory so it might not be as smooth as expected	02:09
AFaith	Admiral_Chicago: you've told me that the alpha is catastrophic ... why ?	02:09
erik_	can I have a question ?	02:09
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Admiral_Chicago	it launched kicker and crashed X and returned me to KDM	02:09
Admiral_Chicago	erik_: ask	02:09
AFaith	Jucato: i was expecting new features, not stability :P	02:09
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Jucato	AFaith: also, some of the planned features for KDE 4 will not make it to KDE 4.0, but for the following releases	02:10
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Jucato	AFaith: like I said, not all new/planned features	02:10
Jucato	erik_: go ahead and ask :)	02:10
AFaith	!question \| erik_:	02:10
ubotu	erik_:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	02:10
erik_	I have a new feisty on my new travelmate 6410 laptop	02:10
erik_	sound does not work :(	02:10
AFaith	erik_: what does lspci is saying to you ?	02:10
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Jucato	AFaith: and even if they do make it in KDE 4.0, they are not promised to be in their final state. expect things to settle down around 4.1	02:10
erik_	it has: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)	02:11
erik_	my kernel is 2.6.20-16-386	02:11
belsebub	any ideas where i can get help with xennobb?	02:11
AFaith	Jucato: i see ... so i wanted to use again kde, but the new version .. and you're pre-advice (if i can name it like this) it's to wait until 4.1	02:12
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AFaith	erik_: what is google saying about your problem ?	02:12
AFaith	!laptop	02:12
ubotu	Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org	02:12
AFaith	!sound	02:13
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	02:13
AFaith	!intel audio	02:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about intel audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:13
AFaith	!intel	02:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:13
erik_	I've found these: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+question/6436	02:13
Jucato	AFaith: not really. you can safely use 4.0. I'm just saying don't expect that 4.0 is THE KDE 4 :)	02:13
Admiral_Chicago	erik_: why don't you request a support ticket on LP, they may be able to help as well	02:14
Admiral_Chicago	anyways. /me is off till tomorrow	02:14
AFaith	ok Jucato! now i've understood the meaning of KDE4 and KDE 4.0	02:14
Jucato	bye Admiral_Chicago!	02:14
AFaith	bye bye Admiral_Chicago!	02:14
erik_	Admiral_Chicago: just tried here first	02:14
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Admiral_Chicago	!sound	02:14
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	02:14
AFaith	nice talking to you again	02:14
Admiral_Chicago	erik_: those links above might help	02:15
Jucato	AFaith: but don't worry. I'm sure the KDE devs will try to stabilize and put in new features ASAP.	02:15
erik_	ok, I'm checking it	02:15
Jucato	AFaith: there are still a lot of great things to look forward to, even just in KDE 4.0	02:15
erik_	coming back, if it still does not work :)	02:16
AFaith	Jucato: have you used the alpha release ?	02:16
Jucato	just slightly	02:16
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AFaith	and your personal impression ?	02:16
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AFaith	apt-get install php5-cgi php5-mysql php5-gd php5	02:17
AFaith	oh, sorry :P wrong window :))	02:17
Jucato	personal impression? "it's alpha" :)	02:17
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AFaith	lol	02:17
Jucato	it runs, it breaks, it crashes, it wows, it disapoints. it's alpha :)	02:17
henri__	hi, does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror	02:17
AFaith	:))	02:18
AFaith	nice description	02:18
AFaith	have you spotted new programs ?	02:18
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Jucato	well the live cd had lots of it, but I didn't really take a look into them. I did try krunner (the new Run Command "and more" app)	02:18
henri__	Does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror, so the page doesn't get indexed?	02:19
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AFaith	i see... you're making me curious lol!!! and i'm a curios guy :))	02:19
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logixoul	moin. sound input from my mic only works when the red led for "capture" in kmix is ON. however, when I turn it on, it goes instantly off again. any fix?	02:21
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AFaith	logixoul: i've got the same problem a few months ago	02:22
AFaith	i'm also interested to find out an answer	02:22
logixoul	aha	02:22
AFaith	logixoul: if i remember well, i've tried alsaconf in Konsole	02:23
AFaith	nop	02:23
AFaith	not alsaconf	02:23
AFaith	the console method to setup the volume	02:23
logixoul	alsamixer?	02:23
AFaith	i don't remember the exact command now ...	02:23
AFaith	yes	02:23
AFaith	alsamixer!	02:23
logixoul	yeah, I'm installing that now	02:23
AFaith	:P	02:23
LjL	ubotwo part	02:24
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logixoul	qamix too	02:24
brandon	what can be wrong with caffine it wont play my movie?	02:24
logixoul	what error message does kaffeine show?	02:25
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brandon	source cant be read	02:26
logixoul	what are you trying to play?	02:26
AFaith	where is that source located ?	02:26
dromer	ok, the weirdest thing; I bought a 2nd hand 2.5" hd for my ancient laptop and tried to partition it, then it disappeared from fdisk -l o.O	02:26
brandon	crank	02:26
dromer	here's what I did: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22564/	02:26
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brandon	u there?/	02:27
logixoul	AFaith: works fine with qamix =)	02:28
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logixoul	brandon: aaah, you mean the Crank movie? heh. ok, answer AFaith's question now...	02:28
logixoul	(boy that movie ruled =)	02:29
brandon	yea	02:29
brandon	where do u download afaith	02:30
logixoul	huh?	02:30
logixoul	AFaith is one of the guys in this chat	02:30
brandon	oh thoughht it was program	02:30
brandon	what do i use to view my dvd	02:30
logixoul	kaffeine	02:30
brandon	it wont work	02:31
logixoul	oh fuck that	02:31
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AFaith	sorry ... got to go	02:31
AFaith	brb	02:31
LjL	!language	02:31
ubotu	Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	02:31
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erik_	so, alsamixer shows that PCM, Front, CD, PC Speaker is on, and has around -8 dB	02:32
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erik_	my snd_hda_intel module is loaded, and it is used	02:33
erik_	aplay -l shows my card0 as the Intel HDA device	02:33
erik_	what else can be wrong ?	02:33
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erik_	going crazy :)	02:34
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ahmed	guys , wat was to type in terminal to get to the sound manager of realtek ??	02:35
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kevin	what a boring place	02:35
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hauppage	hi how do i make a Conexant Dynalink 56pmi modem work (pci) ?	02:46
kevin	no ide	02:47
italo	hallo	02:47
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kevin	No one talks here..its a bit gay	02:47
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manwithaface	ollah	02:48
henri__	Does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror, so the page doesn't get indexed?	02:49
kristjan_	!beagle	02:50
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about beagle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:50
ahmed	does any one know how to access the realtek / alsa mixer fromthe terminal ?	02:50
manwithaface	henri_: what are you trying to hide?	02:50
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kristjan_	ahmed: run alsamixer	02:50
kristjan_	!desktop search	02:51
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop search - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:51
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Castor_Troy	who's know: xmms menu looks strange - unexplained simbols...few days later all be ok..	02:53
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ahmed	ubuntustudio support here ??	02:54
Jucato	!ubuntustudio	02:55
ubotu	ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.	02:55
manwithaface	ahmed: whats the question?	02:55
ahmed	i installed ubuntu studio on ubuntu using the repo	02:56
ahmed	then i installed kde..	02:56
ahmed	and it seems that studio stuff are working better with gnome	02:56
manwithaface	so now you have kubuntustudio	02:56
ahmed	is kde messing studio ??	02:56
ahmed	well not exactly	02:56
ahmed	no studo theme for kde	02:56
ahmed	studio*	02:56
manwithaface	true, it is a metacity theme	02:56
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manwithaface	perhaps someone has posted a studio kde theme on kde-look.org though	02:57
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Cugel	If anyone knows of a better script for putting the track you're listening with Amarok to Konversation, I'd be pleased to know!	02:57
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frojnd	I've downloaded remuco-server-amarok_0.4.3.1-0ubuntu2feisty_i386.deb how can I install that kind of programs?	03:00
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frojnd	chmod x remuco-server-amarok_0.4.3.1-0ubuntu2feisty_i386.deb ?	03:01
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frojnd	and than .remuco-server-amarok_0.4.3.1-0ubuntu2feisty_i386.deb ?	03:01
Jucato	frojnd: right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> install package	03:01
Jucato	or "sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>	03:01
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Jucato	er no quotes	03:01
frojnd	ok tnx	03:01
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boubbin	!nvidia	03:02
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	03:02
boubbin	i cant find the "System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager" in kubuntu	03:03
mats	!intel	03:03
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:03
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Jucato	boubbin: becuase that's only for Ubuntu	03:03
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logixoul	hi. I'm no longer asked for the root password for adminitstrative tasks in my Feisty. Now, I love that :) but am I not in a security risk?	03:04
logixoul	like, can't I be hacked or something?	03:04
logixoul	administrative*	03:04
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AFaith	here again	03:04
AFaith	logixoul: you might be ;)	03:05
brandon	yea	03:05
mats	you still have to login with a pass?	03:05
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logixoul	mats: my kdm is set to autologin	03:05
brandon	hey faith	03:05
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mats	logixoul: ok, then you should close sshd and hope no one other than you gets their hand on your oc	03:05
mats	pc	03:06
brandon	how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program	03:06
mats	;)	03:06
mats	ls Desktop/ ?	03:06
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brandon	how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program	03:06
brandon	how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program	03:07
brandon	how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program	03:07
logixoul	moron.	03:07
kristjan_	cd Desktop	03:07
Jucato	brandon: cd ~/Desktop	03:07
AFaith	brandon: try not to spam this channel	03:07
AFaith	cd ~/Desktop	03:07
AFaith	like Jucato said	03:07
Jucato	brandon: and please don't keep on repeating the same question per second	03:07
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henri__	Does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror, so the page doesn't get indexed?	03:08
brandon	well if u answered it i wouldnt have 2	03:08
mats	jerk.	03:08
Jucato	!patience \| brandon	03:08
ubotu	brandon: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped. Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines	03:08
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Castor_Troy	does anybody know how i can configure WeatherWatch karamba widget?	03:09
logixoul	Castor_Troy: rightclick->configure, I suppose =)	03:09
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Castor_Troy	logixoul, button configure isnt active (	03:09
Zeelot	hmm	03:09
logixoul	Castor_Troy: hmm, have you checked this applet's KDE-Apps page? it probably contains instructions ;)	03:09
Zeelot	the menu on my konversation vanished...???anyone know what's going on?	03:10
mats	is there conf-file in ~/etc ?	03:10
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Castor_Troy	logixoul no ideas there (((	03:10
logixoul	mats: ~/etc ? I don't have this dir, what's supposed to be in there?	03:10
logixoul	Zeelot: ctrl+m to get it back	03:10
^RiaN^	mats: how to install java in .bin format	03:11
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Zeelot	yay _	03:11
BluesKaj	Zeelot, settings / hide-unhide menubar	03:11
Zeelot	thanks	03:11
logixoul	BluesKaj: lol...	03:11
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Jucato	BluesKaj: how can he go to Settings?	03:11
logixoul	exactly...	03:11
mats	logixoul: hiih, i ment /etc ;)	03:12
logixoul	Castor_Troy: can I have a link to this please?	03:12
logixoul	mats ;)	03:12
Castor_Troy	logixoul sec	03:12
BluesKaj	<---hehe , thot he was talking about the icons	03:12
logixoul	the toolbar? right.	03:12
AFaith	hello BluesKaj!	03:12
AFaith	remember me :P ?	03:12
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BluesKaj	<--old windows guy ,ppl have to forgive me	03:13
AFaith	huh ? o.0	03:13
BluesKaj	hi AFaith	03:13
Jucato	BluesKaj: we don't easily forgive :)	03:13
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BluesKaj	tuff :)	03:14
AFaith	BluesKaj: are you reffering to me in this reply : <--old windows guy ,ppl have to forgive me	03:14
BluesKaj	nope	03:14
logixoul	AFaith: nope, to Jucato =)	03:14
AFaith	oh =) lol	03:14
AFaith	!lag	03:15
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about lag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:15
Castor_Troy	logixoul: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/WeatherWatch?content=16396	03:15
AFaith	how do i check my lag ?	03:15
mats	http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-whales26may26,1,497053.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-california what a 1. news from google ;D "Whales get a holiday break"	03:15
Jucato	AFaith: /ping AFaith	03:15
logixoul	AFaith: if you're using konversation, see the statusbar	03:15
AFaith	Jucato & logixoul : i'm using gaim 2.0.0beta6	03:15
AFaith	1 secound :P	03:16
BluesKaj	gaim? ..why ?	03:16
logixoul	Castor_Troy: apparently this one doesn't allow configuration. try Liquid Weather ++	03:16
AFaith	BluesKaj: because i'm using Gnome now (ubuntu feisty)	03:16
logixoul	traitor!	03:17
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AFaith	but #kubuntu is a really nice channel and i like it here	03:17
BluesKaj	bah...goto #ubuntu then :)	03:17
logixoul	dude, gotos are evil	03:17
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AFaith	logixoul: though i use Gnome, i like KDE ... let's say i'm forced to use gnome for the moment	03:17
logixoul	http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2819 <--- woah cool =)	03:17
Castor_Troy	logixoul thx	03:18
logixoul	Castor_Troy: np	03:18
^RiaN^	logixoul: what's linux software like directx on linux	03:18
^RiaN^	logixoul: what's linux software like directx on windows	03:18
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logixoul	^RiaN^: OpenGL for the DirectShow part	03:18
logixoul	^RiaN^: OpenAL for the audio part	03:18
logixoul	etc	03:18
^RiaN^	how can i get it	03:18
BluesKaj	<---not a "dude" ...old retired guy maybe , but no "dude"	03:18
AFaith	BluesKaj: i really like this channel. in #ubuntu is ... bleah ... to bussy channel :)	03:18
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logixoul	BluesKaj: ah heh ;) I'm 17	03:18
^RiaN^	logixoul: can i use adept-manager for that	03:19
logixoul	^RiaN^: why?	03:19
BluesKaj	yeah , busy cuz gnome is unfamiliar territory when you migrate from windows	03:19
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^RiaN^	so, what should i do	03:19
logixoul	^RiaN^: what is your ultimate desire?	03:20
AFaith	BluesKaj: yes, but *buntu is the most userfriendly disitribution that you migrate from windows	03:20
logixoul	er, that sounded wrong.	03:20
GrueTamer	BluesKaj: well, i dont quite know whats happening, but i wish you luck migrating from windows, its worth it	03:20
BluesKaj	AFaith, Kubuntu is	03:20
AFaith	many n00bs consider kubuntu another distribution ... not ubuntu with kde	03:20
logixoul	^RiaN^: you just wanna play a game or something?	03:20
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^RiaN^	yes	03:21
GrueTamer	AFaith: hehe, ill drink to that :)	03:21
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AFaith	BluesKaj: i've said *buntu (including ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu, the official ubuntu releases)	03:21
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brandon	where is Mozilla plugins directory?	03:21
BluesKaj	been in kubuntu for about 9mos now	03:21
AFaith	GrueTamer: :P why ?	03:21
logixoul	^RiaN^: if you use adept to install the game, any dependencies (such as opengl) will be automagically installed	03:21
brandon	where is Mozilla plugins directory?	03:21
AFaith	brandon: check ~/.mozilla	03:21
^RiaN^	logixoul: yes for game	03:21
GrueTamer	ive been trying to help someone convert to linux, and they keep telling me that kubuntu is an easier linux distro to use	03:22
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AFaith	GrueTamer: and it is!	03:22
GrueTamer	not for me	03:22
AFaith	but the latest kubuntu i've used (dapper) had a few problems	03:22
brandon	kubuntu's kde is a lot like windows	03:22
AFaith	GrueTamer: whats your problem then ?	03:22
logixoul	brandon: just so you know, asking the same question with less than 10 minutes in between makes you look like a fucking idiot. stop it, and be patient. Don't polute the channel, other people are also trying to have conversations here.	03:22
GrueTamer	problems? no, no problems	03:23
^RiaN^	logixoul: how about gunbound	03:23
GrueTamer	i just think that wmii, icewm, and fluxbox/blackbox/whatever other *box is easier for me	03:23
^RiaN^	logixoul: how to install it	03:23
PriceChild	!ohmy \| logixoul	03:23
ubotu	logixoul: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	03:23
logixoul	^RiaN^: try adept	03:23
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BluesKaj	GrueTamer, so the pubilicity says ...easier to install maybe , not so arcane , understandable terms are used as opposed to debian, where you need a linux dictionary to figure out what the instructions mean	03:24
logixoul	PriceChild: hmm... but then again, are there ops to filter out people like brandon?	03:24
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AFaith	GrueTamer: are you telling me that kde is to hard for you o.0 ?	03:24
^RiaN^	logixoul: how to install gunbound i mean	03:24
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AFaith	*to difficult to use	03:24
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GrueTamer	nah	03:24
^RiaN^	i just done with ragnarok	03:24
PriceChild	logixoul, if you have a problem with a user then please contact an op. (/msg chanserv access #channel list)	03:24
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logixoul	^RiaN^: adept is the tool you generally use to install stuff.	03:25
GrueTamer	its not hard, i just prefer other things, and im so used to wmii and its ways that its easier for me	03:25
GrueTamer	same with the others	03:25
logixoul	^RiaN^: including games	03:25
logixoul	PriceChild: good call, thanks	03:25
^RiaN^	but i want to install game gunbound	03:25
AFaith	i see ... you preffer lightweight	03:25
GrueTamer	yeah	03:25
GrueTamer	i come in here mostly to help people out	03:25
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logixoul	^RiaN^: what part of "use adept to install gunbound" is so hard to understand?	03:26
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^RiaN^	no	03:26
logixoul	GrueTamer: lol man, nice nick. I keep reading it as TrueGamer, it makes sense either way :)	03:26
^RiaN^	i've download the gunbound	03:26
GrueTamer	hahaha	03:26
^RiaN^	and want to install it	03:26
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GrueTamer	isnt gunbound a windows game?	03:26
^RiaN^	yes	03:26
^RiaN^	how to run it on linux	03:27
GrueTamer	you could try wine	03:27
^RiaN^	i do	03:27
GrueTamer	and just clickin on the installer doesnt work?	03:27
BluesKaj	gamerz.... bah , get an xbox!	03:27
^RiaN^	but it say "make sure your x server installed and $DISPLAY correctly	03:27
BluesKaj	:)	03:27
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GrueTamer	ive got a 360 right next to me...gotta love GoW	03:27
BluesKaj	bye	03:28
frojnd	wha does that mean? Device search job /home/q/.kde/share/apps/kbluetoothd/discovery_jobs/test1 returned with error code 127.	03:28
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logixoul	^RiaN^: windows games generally don't work on linux. If you try wine, there's a small chance that it might still work (buggy though). Either that or you could buy Cedega or Crossover Office so the likelihood that the game works is better.	03:28
BluesKaj	frojnd, unless you have bluetooth ,mignore it	03:29
Sarazar	Diablo II works fine on my ubuntu machine thank you	03:29
^RiaN^	i've try many emulator	03:29
frojnd	BluesKaj: I have bluet tooth..	03:29
GrueTamer	ut2k4 works...oh, wait, its linux native :)	03:29
^RiaN^	cadega, crossover, and wine	03:29
GrueTamer	^RiaN^: wine is not an emulator	03:29
frojnd	BluesKaj: I wanna conncet nokia and my computer..	03:29
GrueTamer	its what wine stands for :)	03:29
^RiaN^	oo	03:29
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AFaith	hey, i've seend that you're talking about games :P	03:30
^RiaN^	where must i download wine in .deb	03:30
AFaith	recomand me a few ones :)	03:30
logixoul	GrueTamer: is there a word that means "app that runs apps on a platform they weren't written to run on" then? :)	03:30
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^RiaN^	oo	03:30
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^RiaN^	my english is not to good	03:30
^RiaN^	:)	03:30
^RiaN^	sory	03:31
BluesKaj	^RiaN^, google for wine repository	03:31
GrueTamer	logixoul: correct me if im wrong, but i think wine like, runs a windows program compliant API to run the windows programs	03:31
logixoul	AFaith: openarena, nexuiz, tremulous, liquidwar, netpanzer, vegastrike, xmoto	03:31
AFaith	i've tryied Planet Penguin Racer (awsome), frozen buble (funny) but i wand more :P	03:31
compilerwriter	Would some one please tell me difference between the suspend and Hibernate options at the logout screen?	03:31
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GrueTamer	alien arena is good, but its not in apt	03:31
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^RiaN^	how alien it size	03:31
AFaith	logixoul: nexuiz it's not running smoothly on my lod GeForce4 :(	03:31
ctothej	After plugging in a usb hard drive into my external creative-based usb sound card, the sound card is no longer recognized. I think plugging in the usb drive could have been the cause, but am not positive. How can I reenable the usb sound card? it is no longer listed as a device in the sound config.	03:31
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GrueTamer	nexuiz runs alright for me, but not great	03:32
logixoul	AFaith: disable "OpenGL 2.0 shaders" in the settings to fix that =)	03:32
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AFaith	logixoul: tell me more about : openarena, tremulous, liquidwar, netpanzer, vegastrike and xmoto please :P	03:32
AFaith	logixoul: i've removed it :-"	03:32
logixoul	AFaith: openarena is like quake 3 only it doesn't look as cool.	03:32
GrueTamer	openarena is like a free gpl compliant quake 3	03:32
logixoul	AFaith: tremulous is aliens vs humans with strategy elements	03:33
GrueTamer	tremulous is aliens vs humans kind of like gloom and natural selection, with bad antilag	03:33
GrueTamer	xmoto is a motorcross game with like, a thousand levels, VERY FUN	03:33
logixoul	AFaith: liquidwar is reaaaaly fun small game with lots of thinking where you try to eat you enemy's liquid	03:33
logixoul	AFaith: netpanzer is a strategy like Panzer General which I haven't played much but seems okay	03:33
logixoul	AFaith: vegastrike is like Freelancer, but really buggy	03:34
GrueTamer	ive heard that Alien Arena is gonna be in apt soon, just makin .deb files for it	03:34
logixoul	AFaith: xmoto is a 2d motor game where you collect, uh, strawberries oO	03:34
^RiaN^	really	03:34
^RiaN^	lol	03:34
GrueTamer	xmoto is the best on that list, i think	03:34
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GrueTamer	because you never run out of levels to play	03:34
AFaith	ok, i'll google them :P	03:35
frojnd	if I wanna install more than 2 packages at the same time, what is the command ?	03:35
logixoul	AFaith: no, just install them with Adept ;)	03:35
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GrueTamer	make sure you dont get xmoto from apt, though, unless they have the newest version in it now	03:35
AFaith	i can find them in apt repos :O ?	03:35
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GrueTamer	all of them	03:35
logixoul	AFaith: huh, weird	03:35
AFaith	wow!!!	03:35
AFaith	nice!	03:35
GrueTamer	but unless xmoto is at version 0.2.7, dont get it	03:35
GrueTamer	theres deb files on the site to get instead, but i bet they updated that by now	03:35
AFaith	lets try again with nexuiz :P	03:35
GrueTamer	(in the apt repos, at least)	03:35
chuen	Hi - can anyone help me with a 'boot' problem?	03:36
^RiaN^	torcs is good too	03:36
GrueTamer	AFaith: http://red.planetarena.org i found that alien arena's website, it comes in a zip file...or you could get it from svn and then compile the linux binaries	03:36
GrueTamer	for an extra new version	03:36
AFaith	i see :-?	03:37
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AFaith	but for the moment i'm installing nexuiz again :P and i'm trying to disable open gl 2.0	03:37
AFaith	:D	03:37
GrueTamer	suit yourself	03:37
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AFaith	but a racing game ? like need for speed or something like this ?	03:38
GrueTamer	ugh, good racing games are hard to find	03:38
GrueTamer	tuxracer was pretty lame, but you could give it a try	03:38
logixoul	AFaith: no, torcs sucks. no match to NFS :(	03:38
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logixoul	gotta try that one	03:38
=== logixoul bbl
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AFaith	see`ya logixoul! thanks for the tips you've gave me :P	03:39
guille	hi	03:39
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AFaith	GrueTamer: tuxracer ... pretty lame, but not so good	03:40
AFaith	*bad	03:40
AFaith	hi guille!	03:40
frojnd	where can I get package libbluetooth2-dev and if I find it in .deb file. Can I install it with dpkg so when I will install other program this dependence libbluetooth2-dev will be recognized as installed... ?? any ideas	03:40
pointwood	anyone upgraded to kde 3.5.7? works without problems?	03:40
AFaith	GrueTamer: i've played a racing game in mandriva a few months ago .. but i was controlling the car by maus	03:40
AFaith	*mouse	03:41
GrueTamer	weird	03:41
AFaith	pointwood: someone complained earlier that there are a lot of bugs in kde 3.5.7	03:41
pointwood	ok	03:41
guille	pointwood: the packages aren't in kubuntu repositories	03:41
pointwood	I will not upgrade then	03:41
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guille	I can't close apps using the task bar, when I open the menu with right click, "close" option is disabled (grey color), is there a solution?	03:42
pointwood	guille: I know, you have to add an extra repo	03:42
Hobbsee	!kde3.5.7	03:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:42
Hobbsee	!kde3.5.6	03:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:42
Hobbsee	!kde3.5.5	03:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:42
Hobbsee	!kde3.5.4	03:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:42
Hobbsee	grr	03:42
pointwood	heh	03:42
Hobbsee	pointwood: /topic	03:42
Hobbsee	we used to have factoids for it	03:42
Hobbsee	yes, there are some bugs in it	03:42
AFaith	see`ya soon ... i'm trying nexuiz now :P	03:43
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guille	anyone can close windows making right click on the task bar->close	03:45
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dthacker	h	03:47
dthacker	hello	03:47
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Jahmon	can anyone remind me of what command i have to type in the konsole to see the errors i see when kubuntu boots (when i see the upsplash)	03:49
dthacker	Jahmon: dmesg	03:49
Jahmon	thanks a lot !	03:49
dthacker	Jahmon: np :)	03:50
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boubbin	Jucato how to install nvidia drivers then ?	03:54
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Jucato	boubbin: same way as always	03:55
boubbin	you mean with adept ?	03:55
boubbin	by thw wiki ?	03:55
Jucato	nvidia-glx	03:56
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boubbin	legacy actually.	03:56
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Jucato	or nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new	03:56
boubbin	but its the same	03:56
boubbin	i still have to do some commandline settings ?	03:56
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Jucato	yep	03:57
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Jucato	not sure if Monitor & Display covers it though	03:57
Jucato	I mean after nvidia-glx-legacy is installed	03:58
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BluesKaj	Hobbsee, just use apt : sudoa apt-get upgrade , after you copy these debs into your sources list and apt-get update	03:58
Jucato	and don't forget to install linux-restriced-modules-generic	03:58
AutoMatriX	Hi folks ;)	03:58
Hobbsee	BluesKaj: i'm running gutsy	03:58
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BluesKaj	Hobbsee, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php	03:59
Hobbsee	BluesKaj: indeed.	03:59
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BluesKaj	why so soon Hobbsee?	03:59
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Hobbsee	should say is uploaded. it's finished	03:59
Hobbsee	why so soon what?	03:59
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Jucato	Hobbsee: nah. I don't think Riddell includes ubuntu+1 kde versions in the announcements either	04:00
BluesKaj	gutsy	04:00
boubbin	Jucato yeah.	04:00
dthacker	are there daily build for gutsy already?	04:00
Hobbsee	Jucato: it is there	04:00
Jucato	the presumption is that the devel version always gets the latest	04:00
Hobbsee	dthacker: no. you can dist-upgrade though	04:00
Jucato	lol /me checks	04:00
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Hobbsee	Jucato: true that	04:00
Jucato	(it also prevents unknowing users from mistaking a devel version as the latest stable version :P)	04:01
Jucato	s/prevents/protects/	04:01
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BluesKaj	Hobbsee, is it stable? and what about hardware recognition ?	04:02
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Hobbsee	BluesKaj: it's not stable.	04:02
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BluesKaj	I hope the new linux drivers that ATI claims they are writing for the open source commmunity are included in the final release ...at least ones that work :)	04:03
harmental	hey guys...i have a strange problem with my wifi connection....	04:04
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Jucato	BluesKaj: depends a lot on when they release it, how (the license) they release it, and who will package it	04:04
harmental	my pc connects automatically at startup to my router...	04:04
PhinnFort	BluesKaj: where can I find some details?	04:05
harmental	but i can access the internet	04:05
BluesKaj	hate like hell to go out and buy a nVidia graphics card only to have ATI finally do right by their customers who prefer linux	04:05
harmental	i have to disconnect and reconnect manually to make it work...	04:05
harmental	any ideas?	04:05
dthacker	harmental: is that can't access the internet?	04:05
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BluesKaj	PhinnFort, maybe google , the ATI chief made an anouncement at some conference a few weeks ago	04:06
harmental	dthacker: yeap....sorry (if it werent the case...i wouldn have a problem at all ;op)	04:06
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federica	hi	04:06
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federica	just installed kubuntu, i can surf with firefox and update with apt but can't surf with konqueror	04:07
dthacker	harmental: what was the last setting you changed or package you upgraded?	04:07
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dettoaltrimenti	when I try to burn a dvd, in gnomebaker or brasero, I get this error- :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h] : Input/output error	04:07
BluesKaj	ATI - LINUX : http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/05/09/amd-will-deliver-open-graphics-drivers/	04:08
AFaith	GrueTamer: are you online ?	04:08
harmental	i updated to edgy...	04:08
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harmental	back then i couldnt get my box to automatically at startup....	04:08
makuseru	where are KDM themes located?	04:08
AFaith	dettoaltrimenti: why don't you try with k3b ?	04:09
AFaith	can anyone else help me with a little problem with nexuiz ?	04:09
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AFaith	it runs so slowly :(	04:09
harmental	then i tried disabling the ethernet connection because i read somewhere that there may be conflicts when using a pcmcia card...	04:09
AFaith	when i'm not fireing (or other opponents) it runs smoothly, almost 100fps, but when fires are shot ... it shows me as little as 2-3 fps	04:10
harmental	then i tried reconfiguring from scratch my wifi connection....	04:10
frojnd	hm, how can I find alsa-plugins folder?? I was trying to install bluetooth headset by this tutorial: http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/build.html	04:10
harmental	and here i am....	04:10
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dthacker	harmental: ok, that's a lot of upgrade. :) Can you ping your router/firewall? If you can, can you ping something on the internet?	04:11
dettoaltrimenti	AFaith- exact same error with k3b	04:11
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AFaith	dettoaltrimenti: is your dvd-rw drive working	04:12
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AFaith	no one can help me ?	04:12
AFaith	please, i'm "desperate" :P	04:12
dettoaltrimenti	it reads dvds fine, and it has never had a problem before burning them	04:13
m1sha	I can't log into kde, any ideas?	04:13
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harmental	dthacker: i would have to reboot my box to reproduce the error.....	04:14
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harmental	how can i ping the internet and my router?	04:14
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dthacker	harmental: do you know the ip address of your router?	04:15
m1sha	harmental $ping 192.168.1.254 (the default for most routers)	04:15
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brandon	i am having problems with beryl can anyone help?	04:16
m1sha	brandon if you explain what your problems are	04:17
brandon	whenever i go into it the screen turns white	04:17
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guille	anyone can close windows making right click on the application in the task bar->close in the menu?	04:17
brandon	i am on feisty fawn latest version with amd 64	04:17
makuseru	where are KDM themes located?	04:17
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brandon	graphics are ati radeon xpress 200	04:18
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makuseru	you need fglrx	04:18
dthacker	makuseru: themes.kde.org	04:18
makuseru	no	04:18
makuseru	not a website	04:18
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makuseru	i mean the folder	04:18
brandon	i need fglrx	04:19
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makuseru	yes	04:19
brandon	where do i get it?	04:19
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makuseru	google	04:19
m1sha	so can anyone help me get kde to start?	04:19
makuseru	!fglrx	04:19
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	04:19
vitto	m1sha	04:19
dthacker	m1sha: you need to give us more info, please?	04:20
LjL	nazi_, change your nickname please	04:20
m1sha	dthacker sure, from the standard login screen if I try to log in any account screen goes black and it bring me back to the start, I can only get in if I boot single user mode and login as root	04:21
makuseru	LjL: wtf. why would someone have that name	04:21
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LjL	which is why i told him to change it	04:21
guille	hehe	04:21
makuseru	any mods in here?	04:21
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Jucato	makuseru: you were talking to one	04:22
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dthacker	m1sha: sounds like kde can't start session. Any recent changes?	04:22
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makuseru	is he?	04:22
makuseru	i didnt know	04:22
makuseru	the only person i know around here as a mod is you Jucato	04:23
Jucato	lol	04:23
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makuseru	since your always on	04:23
dthacker	kubunu mods speak softly and carry a big K	04:23
makuseru	Jucato: is dr_willis a mod?	04:23
hyper_ch	dthacker: like Kjucato	04:23
dthacker	hehe	04:24
Jucato	hyper_ch: that'd be JuKato :)	04:24
Jucato	makuseru: nope	04:24
makuseru	hes just someone who hels ALOT?	04:24
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makuseru	ha	04:24
Jucato	yeah, he "hels" a lot :)	04:24
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makuseru	oops	04:24
makuseru	helps*	04:24
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Dr_willis	heck for 2 mo i was rarely in here.	04:24
hyper_ch	;)	04:24
makuseru	everytime im in here you are	04:25
makuseru	helping people	04:25
makuseru	speaking of help, where are KDM themes located?	04:25
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Jucato	makuseru: /usr/share/apps/kdm	04:25
Dr_willis	use the locate command - thats how i always got ot find them	04:25
Dr_willis	:)	04:25
makuseru	thanks Jucato	04:25
Jucato	from the top of my head, so might be a bit wrong	04:25
m1sha	dthacker I can't think of any, I tried deleting my .kde to see if it was a bad setting as well	04:25
Jucato	but definitely in /usr :)	04:25
dthacker	ooo, I was wrong. on the net themes are at kde-look.org	04:25
aka_dennister	Dr_willis: good morning! just the person i was hoping to see :)	04:25
Jucato	Dr_willis: you have a patient :)	04:26
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aka_dennister	still trying to figure out why flash sound works as this new user, and why it simply wont as my normal user	04:27
aka_dennister	Jucato: yes, me! lol	04:27
makuseru	well Jucato and Dr_wills: you have good days, im off to spread the word of the Buntu	04:27
hyper_ch	aka_dennister: maybe flash doesn't like your normal user...	04:27
Jucato	makuseru: the source be with you	04:28
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dthacker	m1sha: is .kde re-created on login? That might be contributing. I think you're past my knowledge, though	04:28
makuseru	hahaha	04:28
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aka_dennister	haha...it liked it at first...guess i offended it somehow and it will only date me in disguise now\	04:28
dthacker	me asks for help in helping m1sha	04:28
m1sha	dthacker AFIAK it is. thanks anyway	04:28
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c1\|freaky	someone here familiar with KDevelop? I'm wondering if theres any "simple template" where you just get the general structure of a program created (like the Hello World template but without the Hello World code? (i know i could just delete that code but maybe theres some "optimized" template just for general project creation without unneccessary code prewritten?	04:30
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aka_dennister	any ideas ppl? Ive already made sure my .mozilla directory is identical in both home directories	04:31
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m1sha	aka_dennister maybe you are running some app that takes over sound?	04:31
mweijts	!beryl	04:31
ubotu	Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects	04:31
m1sha	and can someone please help me out here? running irc/msn/web in a terminal is fun for a while but it's not great long term	04:32
aka_dennister	possibly...but that would be really hard to determine...I running the same apps in this user, and they give up the sound	04:32
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aka_dennister	i scared the doc away...:( 2nd time this week ive been determined to be a difficult patient :(	04:33
aka_dennister	lol	04:33
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BluesKaj	aka_dennister, doctors need difficult patients , even if it's just to remind them that they aren't gods :)	04:38
aka_dennister	hey BluesKaj :) gm	04:38
BluesKaj	'morning dennister :)	04:39
aka_dennister	somehow i don think they see it that way...	04:39
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aka_dennister	very iiiinnnnnnnnnnteresting...:)	04:41
Graham	Hey, newbie question here, where does Wine store icons?	04:41
BluesKaj	most medical docs are warped in some manner :)	04:41
stdin	Graham: in ~/.local/share/icons/ I should think	04:42
BluesKaj	in the wine store .. ;)	04:42
aka_dennister	yes, but I said ancel all my appointments"to the eye institute...just now i was making a joke about Dr_willis	04:42
Graham	stdin: You're a good man.	04:43
Graham	Thanks.	04:43
stdin	:)	04:43
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aka_dennister	ahhhhhhh, but maybe stdin can help me :)	04:43
aka_dennister	good morning!	04:43
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stdin	afternoon :)	04:43
Jucato	where's genii when you need caffeine!?! :(	04:43
stdin	damn, now I want coffee	04:43
aka_dennister	so genii is still coming around? i thought hed hidden himself for good	04:44
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Jucato	haven't seen him for a few days now	04:44
Jucato	but then again I've been busy myself...	04:44
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aka_dennister	well, he was literally hanging up on me back when i was still working with him at the office	04:45
stdin	hmm, even SeenServ hasn't seen him	04:45
aka_dennister	but i quit that farce of a nonprofit, so don care anymore	04:45
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BluesKaj	genii comes around about once/wk it seems	04:46
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BluesKaj	farce of a nonprofit ?	04:46
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aka_dennister	here my problem de jour: the only thing that has gotten me any closer to getting sound back in my flash movies (youtube/others) was Dr_willis' suggestion to see if it worked as a new user; it did, all the same apps have working sound	04:47
BluesKaj	ohoh, the permissions tangle :(	04:47
aka_dennister	however, i can for the life of me find out what different with this new user and my old regular user	04:48
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stdin	aka_dennister: hmm, maybe try changing ' FIREFOX_DSP="none" ' to ' FIREFOX_DSP="artsdsp" ' in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (or put it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc)	04:48
aka_dennister	but the interesting symptom ive just discovered is that, with this new user, firefox doesn let go of the sound until i close firefox	04:49
aka_dennister	stdin: thx; will try that	04:49
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aka_dennister	certainly i done a locate before, and the only firefoxrc file in the whole pc had the dsp to none	04:52
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stdin	that's the default, yes	04:52
stdin	change it to artsdsp	04:52
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aka_dennister	ok, flash sound is still working after the change for this user...will have to log out to see if it helps with the main user...be right back	04:56
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thotel2	hello	05:06
thotel2	ho hase never uses VirtualBox on feisty	05:07
thotel2	?	05:07
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stdin	!it	05:07
ubotu	Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	05:07
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busfahrer	I see lots of KDE packages have been updated, any special reason?	05:12
stdin	are you using the 3.5.7 packages?	05:13
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busfahrer	no, regular stuff	05:13
stdin	hmm, take a look at the changelogs then	05:13
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stdin	aptitude changelog [package]	05:14
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dennister	stdin: nope, didn't work...have tried all sorts of things with /etc/firefox/firefoxrc now	05:15
stdin	hmm, that's strange	05:16
dennister	certainly the speakers and sound card does not get released if firefox is still running and I try to use the sound with another multimedia app	05:16
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stdin	the only thing I can think of is to make sure you are in the same groups as the new user	05:18
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dennister	stdin: way ahead of you; did that before i even came into the chartoom	05:18
dennister	*chatroom	05:18
Qoole	hi there, I have setup an LTSP server (Kraken). The server logs on to our domain successfully as do the LTSP clients. could anyone talk me through setting up pam_mount to automatically mount home dirs on login?	05:19
dennister	perhaps i should just copy a lot of stuff from my normal user's home to the new user	05:20
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stdin	dennister: that's probably the quickest fix	05:20
dennister	yeah...there's only so much someone should really be expected to troubleshoot	05:21
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blackflag	I have a DNS problem. I have another network with vpn connected. In my lan there is a DNS forwarding to the DNS Server in another LAN	05:23
blackflag	I can do nslookup dig all is running fine. its .local tld	05:23
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busfahrer	When I remove an unused SATA controller from my system, I only got a blank screen with a blinking cursor instead of GRUB. Any ideas?	05:24
blackflag	but when I try to reach the server with a browser then the .local server isnt reachabel. How could this be?	05:24
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blackflag	I tried firefox and konqueror	05:25
blackflag	Can someone help?	05:25
blackflag	I can get the webserver there with IP but not via DNS	05:25
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balaji	hi friends	05:26
balaji	how to mount a 80 Gb hardrive	05:27
balaji	it never hows up during fdisk -l	05:27
balaji	?	05:27
BluesKaj	is it formated to ext ?	05:29
BluesKaj	or ntfs	05:29
balaji	no how to do that?	05:29
balaji	its not formatted	05:29
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BluesKaj	if there's no format , it won't be seen	05:29
balaji	i am new to linux and not a computers student	05:29
Castor_Troy	balaji mount -t auto /dev/sdx /mount_point	05:29
Castor_Troy	balaji under root	05:30
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soon	What do I need to convert wmv files to e.g mpeg4 ???	05:31
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soon	I've installed the Others / Restricted formats	05:31
soon	Kaffeine want play the wmv (neither will mplayer)	05:31
soon	want = wont	05:31
balaji	<castor_troy> the device is unformatted and i want to create some partition in it supporting files for linux and windows	05:32
BluesKaj	soon, devede, tovid, and I think avidemux	05:32
Castor_Troy	balaji gparted can help you	05:32
soon	thanks	05:33
balaji	its giving error command not found	05:33
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Qoole	does anyone have a tutorial for setting up pam_mount?	05:34
Castor_Troy	balaji sudo apt-get install gparted	05:35
BluesKaj	soon , for playback in kaffeine/settings/player engine/ ..set it to kaffeine-xine	05:35
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BluesKaj	soon, of course that's asuming you have the xine-engine installed	05:38
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Derminator	Hello @ all	05:39
defrysk	hi	05:40
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balaji	<castor_troy>my net is slow so please wait	05:40
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Derminator	Can somebody help me? I dont have sound at enemy Territorry!	05:41
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BluesKaj	get on allied tewrritory then	05:42
BluesKaj	<---couldn't resist that one , sorry Derminator	05:42
balaji	yes i've done it	05:42
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balaji	no u may please give me the steps	05:42
balaji	now	05:42
BluesKaj	are you running gparted balaji ?	05:43
Qoole	ok, i've setup pam_mount according to: http://schools.coe.ru.ac.za/wiki/ConfigureLinuxDomainClient now when i try to log onto an LTSP client it boots me off.	05:43
Qoole	no errors in log	05:43
balaji	its giving some error again	05:43
Qoole	all successes	05:43
balaji	give me the full command	05:44
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Castor_Troy	balaji full command: man gparted	05:45
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meloso	Hi does some one know what the extension .rpm stands for and how can i execute?	05:45
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balaji	iam using kubuntu so would this help?	05:45
BluesKaj	balaji, you have to download GParted and burn it to a cd , then make sure you can boot into it to examine your hard drives to do the proper formatting	05:45
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BluesKaj	!rpm	05:45
ubotu	RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)	05:45
defrysk	meloso, for what package ?	05:47
balaji	iam running Gparted but it doesent show up sdb partitions?	05:47
Derminator	If somebody can help me by no sound at Enemy Territorry, please write me privat	05:47
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meloso	well im trying to install java in my kubuntu and i unpacked the file but now its says is a rpm file	05:47
balaji	yeah it now shows /dev/sdb now what should i do?	05:48
defrysk	meloso, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin	05:48
defrysk	meloso, thats all	05:48
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Castor_Troy	balaji so what do you want?	05:48
balaji	now how to partition this drive and set the labels etc?	05:49
Castor_Troy	balaji whats file system do you have in that partition?	05:49
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balaji	currently its unalloacated	05:50
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Castor_Troy	balaji ok..create partiton	05:51
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Castor_Troy	balaji and choose filesystem	05:52
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balaji	its asking for the disklabel so what should i put?	05:52
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Castor_Troy	balaji what do you want )) it's not principal ))	05:52
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meloso1	where can i find that sun java6-plugin?	05:53
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balaji	??	05:53
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balaji	its showing parttion as unallocated	05:54
balaji	filesystem as unallocated	05:54
balaji	size as 74.53 gib	05:54
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meloso1	where can i find that sun java6-plugin?	05:55
Castor_Troy	balaji did you push Apply?	05:55
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BluesKaj	yeah the checmark in toolbar , balaji	05:56
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Kartibok	Hi all - if I do a back up of the home folder will it also keep my internet favorites and email settings?	05:56
BluesKaj	err checkmark	05:56
balaji	there is only one option highlighted that is new	05:57
balaji	and it asks me to create a file label for device	05:57
meloso1	Hi, i need to install java into kubunto how can i do taht?	05:57
Castor_Troy	balaji enter any label	05:57
balaji	the options given are ms-dos amiga dvh loop etc	05:57
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Castor_Troy	balaji and go Edit -> Apply	05:58
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balaji	for ms-dos it gives error	05:58
mhb	hi all kubuntu lovers and friends	05:58
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meloso1	Hi does anyone know where can i get the java plug in so i can run java applets?	05:59
mhb	I have a special question for you all - how many of you do use the "Add/Remove Programs" application?	05:59
balaji	any label it gives error while setting labe	05:59
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defrysk	meloso1 i already told you what to install	06:00
defrysk	meloso, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin	06:00
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meloso1	it told it cannt find it ?	06:00
Castor_Troy	balaji in label field enter 1	06:00
vincent	hi	06:00
defrysk	!repos > meloso1	06:00
Castor_Troy	balaji press ok and push Apply	06:00
meloso1	it says it coulnt find package sun-java6-plug in	06:00
vincent	i cant find any mic/audio function in Kopete	06:01
vincent	does it have any?	06:01
defrysk	meloso, you have to set up your repositories	06:01
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meloso1	how do i do that .. SOrry im new to this stuff	06:01
defrysk	meloso1, if I am correct you got a private message from ubotu with some explantion	06:01
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balaji	but it gives only options for label no manual entry possible?	06:02
VincentMX	hi deFrysk	06:02
meloso1	yeah i got it going to chek it out thanks	06:02
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defrysk	moloso1good luck	06:02
Castor_Troy	blyaaa	06:02
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lucky_lucas	hi I'm looking for links to manage a usb headset on kubuntu, does anyone has a clue ?	06:03
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balaji	hey its not formatted in first place	06:04
Castor_Troy	balaji whats' mean first place/	06:04
Castor_Troy	?	06:04
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Castor_Troy	anybody know russian language?	06:05
lucky_lucas	I'm using the asoundconf-gtk frontend, but i would like to have a more convenient and user capable way	06:05
lucky_lucas	Castor_Troy: no	06:05
balaji	i mean its not formatted	06:05
netgooroo	whats the story with the new distro??? people likin it..?	06:05
balaji	to FAT or Ntfs	06:05
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Castor_Troy	balaji do you need ntfs?	06:06
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Castor_Troy	balaji for ms windows?	06:06
netgooroo	??	06:06
balaji	yes	06:06
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sivaji	balaji where u r from ?	06:07
balaji	india	06:07
Funkah	India	06:07
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Castor_Troy	balaji easy way: boot from ms windows disk, install this s...t, and after install kubuntu	06:07
CaBlGuY	now.. anyone??	06:07
Castor_Troy	balaji under windows you can create partitions for linux	06:08
CaBlGuY	!Java5-jre	06:08
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BluesKaj	yes balaji , it's always best to install windows first, to preserve it's bootloader	06:09
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sivaji	!shipit	06:09
LjL	actually, it's to preserve ubuntu's bootloader =)	06:09
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sivaji	what happen to ubout	06:10
LjL	sivaji, CaBlGuY, pm the bot. which is unavailable right now, anyway.	06:10
CaBlGuY	yea.. what happened to him??	06:10
CaBlGuY	Hmmmm	06:10
Castor_Troy	!ubout restart	06:11
Castor_Troy	))	06:11
CaBlGuY	ok, how do I go about installing Java??	06:11
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CaBlGuY	whats the command?	06:11
defrysk	CaBlGuY, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin	06:11
CaBlGuY	K..	06:11
sivaji	http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty	06:11
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CaBlGuY	K, didn't work.. says couldn't find the package..	06:12
defrysk	!repos > CaBlGuY	06:13
defrysk	CaBlGuY, set up your repos check ubotu's message	06:13
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Castor_Troy	and no russian man here? )) i can't believe	06:13
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Funkah	Why d'ya wanna talk to someone russian?	06:14
defrysk	!ru	06:14
CaBlGuY	defrysk, I would if Ubotu was up.. :p	06:14
CaBlGuY	!Ubotu	06:14
defrysk	CaBlGuY, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu	06:15
sivaji	ubotu is down	06:15
CaBlGuY	word.. ;)	06:15
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word	-_-	06:15
otero	HI	06:15
CaBlGuY	hehe	06:15
ardchoille	CaBlGuY: ubotu is connected, he just isn't in this channel.	06:15
defrysk	word, word.	06:15
otero	Im upgrading to fiesty fawn, what do i put in the MDADM dialog box?	06:15
word	>.>	06:15
CaBlGuY	word word, n stuff..	06:15
CaBlGuY	:p	06:15
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cleit0n	how i upgrade ubuntu .. i install kubuntu 5 2.6.10-5-386	06:17
balaji	<blackskaj> i was doing my engg project in linux	06:17
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sivaji	balaji which college what is u r project	06:17
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pyrotix	how risky is upgrading edgy to feisty?	06:18
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balaji	now thts over s i want to install ubuntu in a usb hardrive that i own and have two partions in it for linux and windows i use a laptop so i would install windows on it and when required would boot from usb	06:18
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defrysk	pyrotix, if you have a proper backup , none	06:19
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balaji	father Conceicao rodrigues institute of technology	06:19
eXistenz	Is it recommended to upgrade to KDE 3.5.7 ?	06:19
cleit0n	balaji: i try this..	06:19
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balaji	<sivaji> u from which place?	06:20
balaji	<cletion> wat?	06:20
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defrysk	eXistenz, not specificly, as in there are no security fixes for the packages when needed	06:20
pyrotix	defrysk: but restoring proper backups is time consuming and maybe something I don't want to do if failure is likely. Is it as failure prone as dapper -> edgy	06:20
sivaji	balaji i am from chennai but u didnt reply for me	06:20
pyrotix	?	06:20
defrysk	eXistenz, but if you like bleeding , go for it :)	06:20
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balaji	i have replied just see on the screen	06:20
eXistenz	defrysk: How much memory do you use?	06:21
defrysk	eXistenz, I have 80% free at the moment	06:21
sivaji	balaji which college what is u r project	06:21
LjL	!offtopic	06:21
balaji	<sivaji>Father Conceicao rodrigues institute of technology	06:21
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defrysk	pyrotix, there is always chance of failure	06:22
eXistenz	defrysk: Do you have 1GB?	06:22
defrysk	eXistenz, 2	06:22
defrysk	no one	06:22
defrysk	you are correct	06:22
eXistenz	defrysk: I have 512MB. Maybe I have to get another 512MB	06:23
defrysk	80% is cached tho	06:23
balaji	<blueskaj>?	06:23
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defrysk	so it looks like its using 100%	06:23
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defrysk	but in reality its 20 %	06:23
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cleit0n	how i update ubuntu here? i have edgy	06:24
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otero	software update	06:24
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busfahrer	When I remove an unused SATA controller from my system, I only got a blank screen with a blinking cursor instead of GRUB. Any ideas?	06:24
balaji	<cletion> ubuntu or kubuntu?	06:24
kain	hello	06:24
kain	i need help getting a dell 1390 to work on 7.4	06:25
kain	i have tried ubuntu opensuse freedsb	06:25
cleit0n	balaji: kubuntu	06:25
kain	i just want to be able to go wireless with linux	06:25
kain	and i have followed faqs	06:25
kain	just tried one for kubuntu that looked promising	06:25
cleit0n	balaji: make diference?	06:25
kain	i'm like one stop away	06:25
kain	is someone avail/willing to help?	06:25
cleit0n	balaji: u have source.list to do?	06:26
eXistenz	defrysk: How would you install skype on feisty? skype.com package?	06:26
balaji	ok go to adept and enble edgy repos<if diabled> and then click ftch upgrades it should show up some no of upgrades just aplly	06:26
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ardchoille	balaji: Mixing repos is a bad thing to do.	06:26
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busfahrer	eXistenz: Just use the .deb from skype.com and add a Menu entry, done.	06:27
balaji	iam not asking him to mix repo it should be present in the /etc/sources.list i suppose	06:27
kain	can i just drop the driver in the right dir and not go through the terminal or anything?	06:27
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jaevel	anyone around that can help with my nvidia driver? despite everything i have read and several suggestions from here, i still am unable to get the stupid driver running?	06:28
felipe	ardchoille's	06:28
ardchoille	Great, now my repos smell like fish	06:28
ardchoille	:)	06:28
felipe	:)	06:28
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balaji	<sivaji > do u have any soln to my problem?	06:30
sivaji	i didnt see	06:30
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balaji	i want to install ubuntu in a usb hardrive that i own and have two partions in it for linux and windows i use a laptop so i would install windows on it and when required would boot from usb	06:31
sivaji	go to bios enable boot from usb option	06:32
balaji	hardrive size =80 gb	06:32
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balaji	but its not formatted in any form	06:32
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balaji	do u have a yahoo id?	06:33
sivaji	have u install ubuntu or not	06:33
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balaji	no its not formatted	06:33
Kartibok	kain: are you still having trouble with your usb wireless	06:33
sivaji	ya sivaji_2009@yahoo.com	06:33
kain	not usb	06:34
kain	internal dell broadcom 1390	06:34
kain	i've tried ubutnu opensuse freedsb looked at tons of faqs	06:34
Kartibok	has your OS picked it up automatically?	06:34
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sivaji	balaji are u there	06:35
BluesKaj	balaji, how much room on the HDD are you going to use for each OS ?	06:35
balaji	on USB?	06:35
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balaji	yes	06:35
kain	and tried kubutnu 7.4 because this looked easy http://www.linux-geek.org/index.php/2007/04/22/dell-1390-native-linux-driver-how-to-updated	06:35
kain	nope	06:36
kain	seems it has lots of issues with linux	06:36
Kartibok	there is a website http://linuxwireless.org/ try it and look for your card	06:36
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kain	ok	06:37
kain	i know i need the bcm43xx	06:37
kain	and i need the driver which i have the windows vers but i did get one from that tutorial that is a ko	06:37
kain	followed all the steps	06:37
balaji	sivaji can u come into ur yahoo messenger?	06:38
Kartibok	I must admit mine (usb) worked straight from a clean install. I just gave it a fixed IP address and added the SSID name and password	06:38
kain	i have problems at this step in his tutorial (the last) And finally, we replace the bcm43xx driver provided by the Ubuntu kernel with the driver ported by me, from the 2.6.21-rc7 kernel.	06:38
kain	says it can't find the tarball	06:38
kain	and it seems to me i have the path and filename right	06:38
sivaji	balaji i dont hava ymessenger using kopete	06:38
kain	i used the packet inject vers and changed the command to match	06:39
balaji	yeah its ok but ur yahoo server is enabled on it no?	06:39
sivaji	tell me u r yahoo username	06:40
sivaji	balaji tell me u r yahoo username	06:40
balaji	balaji_trv@yahoo.co.in	06:40
kain	Kartibok:?	06:41
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Kartibok	sorry was away	06:41
balaji	sivaji:have u added?	06:42
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Kartibok	kain: did the fresh install find the device ?	06:42
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sivaji	ya i added still i show u r offline	06:43
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balaji	send me a message	06:45
kain	i'm stuck on the last step	06:45
kain	And finally, we replace the bcm43xx driver provided by the Ubuntu kernel with the driver ported by me, from the 2.6.21-rc7 kernel.	06:45
kain	i try it and it says it can't find the file	06:45
kain	i've tried changing the path and making sure it works	06:46
kain	after i did the first part my wireless light came on byt no connection	06:46
kain	i need to get this driver installed somehow bcm43xx.ko	06:46
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Kartibok	have you tried the iwconfig command to see if it sees any network?	06:47
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balaji	<sivaji>?	06:48
sivaji	balaji i cant "sivaji_2009" this is my username u try send a message to me	06:48
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balaji	sivaji did u get it?	06:49
sivaji	no	06:49
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sivaji	how to configure kopete it show everyone offline but they are online	06:50
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balaji	try gaim	06:51
sercik	do you use msn protocol??	06:51
kain	Kartibok yes i have and it doesn't	06:51
kain	the wireless light is on	06:51
Kartibok	so you have link quality 0/100 and signal level 0/100	06:52
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sivaji	sercik are u asking me	06:52
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kain	all i have when i run iwlist scan is lo and eth0 and they don't support scanning	06:52
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Kartibok	have you tried sudo ifup eth0 (or what ever yours is?)	06:52
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stdin	kain: does "iwlist scan" show anything?	06:52
stdin	ah :p	06:53
kain	sudo modprobe bcm43xx gives me: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko': No such file or directory	06:53
napper_	hi :)	06:53
Minataku	Hm	06:53
sivaji	stdin help me	06:53
Minataku	12:51:00 up 76 days, 8:19, 6 users, load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00	06:53
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sivaji	tell me how to configure kopete it show everyone offline but they are online	06:54
stdin	kain: did you download http://linux-geek.org/files/bcm43xx.tar.bz2 and extract it to "/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/" like the page says?	06:54
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stdin	sivaji: huh? you mean so you're invisible ?	06:54
kain	kain@kain-laptop:/home$ sudo ifup eth0	06:55
kain	ifup: interface eth0 already configured	06:55
kain	kain@kain-laptop:/home$ sudo ifup eth0	06:55
kain	ifup: interface eth0 already configured	06:55
napper_	i searching an good MP3 and OGG player ... i tried xmms and amarok but both didn match what i looking for ... i port my system from windows and looking for a player like foobar2000	06:55
stdin	sivaji: or it's like they all are	06:55
kain	kain@kain-laptop:/home$ sudo ifup eth0	06:55
kain	oops sorry	06:55
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sivaji	i cant get connect to other	06:55
kain	stdin i did the inject version	06:55
kain	i have a copy in /home/kain and one on the Desktop	06:56
stdin	sivaji: hmm, check your router/firewall settings maybe	06:56
kain	plus i already extracted the ko	06:56
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kain	to both those places	06:56
stdin	kain: yeah, but you have to copy it to "/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/"	06:56
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kain	do i have to make that dir by hand?	06:56
c1\|freaky	hi all. is someone familiar with Kontact? I keep getting a error message that "the server doesnt support TLS" i probably have set up some groupware server or something but i cant find something where i can remove that server thing :\	06:56
BluesKaj	napper , amarok should fill your needs if foobar2k is your fav...amarok just has to be configged to your taste is all	06:57
stdin	kain: the dir is already there, just copy the .ko file there	06:57
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kain	it's not on my install	06:58
sivaji	when i tried to send mail using kmail i got this "Please create an account for sending and try again" i dont know where i am suppose to create a accoung	06:58
sivaji	when i tried to send mail using kmail i got this "Please create an account for sending and try again" i dont know where i am suppose to create a account	06:58
balaji	sivaji:new to ubuntu?	06:59
stdin	kain: it should be, try "sudo mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/ " then copy the .ko file there	06:59
sivaji	yes	06:59
Kartibok	c1\|freaky: You just need to untick the TLS in your SMTP tab	06:59
balaji	what do u do?	06:59
sivaji	started only two months before	06:59
napper_	ok i will give amarok a second chance ... thank u	06:59
sivaji	engg 2nd year cse	06:59
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napper_	and linux have never been so easy before i tried kubuntu	07:00
sivaji	balaji what is ur prob	07:00
stdin	amarok is the best thing since sliced bread	07:00
balaji	i want to install ubuntu in a usb hardrive that i own and have two partions in it for linux and windows i use a laptop so i would install windows on it and when required would boot from usb	07:01
BluesKaj	ama-roks!	07:01
napper_	:D	07:01
kain	stdin ok the folder is there	07:01
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kain	but i try to paste i get access denied	07:01
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kain	the ko is on my desktop	07:02
napper_	adept manager is sooooo cool	07:02
Peaker_	gutsy gibbon broke hibernation didn't it?	07:02
Peaker_	napper_: except when there are any errors of any kind :)	07:02
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Peaker_	then it totally sucks	07:02
Peaker_	heh	07:02
Kartibok	Open Kontact >Settings>Kmail>Accounts>Sending>Modify your account>Security Tab> Encryption> set to none	07:02
stdin	kain: try "sudo cp ~/Desktop/bcm43xx.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/"	07:02
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Kartibok	c1\|freaky: Open Kontact >Settings>Kmail>Accounts>Sending>Modify your account>Security Tab> Encryption> set to none	07:03
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nahemoth	Is it possible to use Opera in Kubuntu	07:03
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stdin	!opera	07:03
ubotu	opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser	07:03
kain	ok i do it hit enter and i get: kain@kain-laptop:/home$	07:03
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stanley	hi guys	07:03
kain	:)	07:03
kain	YOU ROCK	07:04
kain	let me reboot bro	07:04
stanley	i am trying to install/configure my dial up modem	07:04
santoD	hey	07:04
stanley	i have used to scanmodem tool	07:04
stanley	after running it i think i've gotten my information	07:04
santoD	knetworkmanager doesn't show any wlans?	07:04
sivaji	balaji i cant get u what u want to do now	07:04
stanley	but now i don't know what to do next	07:04
stanley	i don't kno how to install the driver	07:04
stanley	plz...someone help	07:04
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stdin	!modem	07:05
ubotu	You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto	07:05
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sivaji	balaji	07:05
sivaji	balaji do u hava ubuntu livecd	07:05
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sivaji	balaji are u there	07:07
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hsystem-x	lol	07:07
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balaji	yeah i have both 6.06 and 7.04	07:08
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sivaji	then what start installation with 7.04 in usb	07:08
gary_	how do i get beryl to launch at kubuntu startup ?	07:09
balaji	yes but the usb is not formatted in ntfs or ext3	07:09
balaji	i want to create partions first	07:09
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hsystem-x	gary: http://www.beryl-project.org/ , search there, in the instruction they specify HOW.	07:10
sivaji	first insert 7.04 live cd boot from cd u will have install icon that time u format with ext2	07:10
hsystem-x	select * ubuntu distro*	07:10
napper_	ah cool ... amarok plays titles out of the network :)	07:11
Kartibok	Quick one, where would I install something like Real Player as I am unsure about the file system	07:11
balaji	ok and for the windows partions?	07:11
kain	THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! :)	07:11
kain	i have wireless now just can't use it cuz i need the key but you rock and so does Kubutnu Linux!	07:11
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sivaji	u r system is already having some os or not	07:12
stdin	napper_: yeah, I'm playing my music from my server (down stairs) wirelessly :)	07:12
balaji	yes	07:12
balaji	but usb doesnt	07:12
Kartibok	Quick one, where would I install something like Real Player as I am unsure about the file system	07:12
sivaji	u have xp installed on u r harddisk is it	07:13
kain	sdin you are the man	07:13
balaji	<kartibok> just download the dpkg package from real player site	07:13
kain	i tried ubutnu opensuse and freedsb with no luck	07:13
stdin	Kartibok: the installers usually give sane defaults, like /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin (for system wide installs)	07:13
balaji	and if u want u van keep it in /usr/bin	07:13
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napper_	stdin: how can i sort my collection by directory structure?	07:14
Kartibok	I downloaded the realplay 10 .bin to my desktop should I have downloaded another file?	07:14
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kain	how could i crack my work's wep key?	07:14
sivaji	which os u have already and where u have install it , in u harddisk or usb	07:14
kain	so i don't have to wait for it on tues	07:14
sivaji	balaji which os u have already and where u have install it , in u harddisk or usb	07:14
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balaji	kubuntu 6.10 in harddrive which i want to remove	07:15
ownsnofn	efef	07:15
Kartibok	stdin: I will go for /usr/bin thanks	07:15
stdin	napper_: you mean rather than by artest/album?	07:15
stdin	kain: you'll have to search google for that one	07:15
ownsnofn	why doesn't knetworkmanager work any more? it doesn't show any wlans	07:16
napper_	stdin: it should have the directory structure how it on my disc	07:17
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sivaji	balaji first install windows ,when u put u r windows boot disk it will show all partition u delete which ever u dont want and later install kubuntu7.04	07:18
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stdin	napper_: you just open the Files tab, on the left	07:18
balaji	ok thanks	07:18
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Castor_Troy	balaji as same as i told you - install windows first	07:18
sivaji	balaji where u r from	07:18
balaji	mumbai	07:19
sivaji	how long u r using kubuntu	07:19
balaji	10 months or so	07:19
sivaji	balaji how long u r using kubuntu	07:19
hyper_ch	hiho, how does one get the kernel source?	07:20
balaji	10 mnths	07:20
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stdin	hyper_ch: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.20 (if you're on 2.6.20)	07:21
hyper_ch	stdin: thx :)	07:21
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hyper_ch	so it's sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`	07:22
stdin	not quite, no	07:22
napper_	stdin: ah! cool! now amarok is MY PLAYER :D	07:22
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napper_	thanks so much	07:22
stdin	`uname -r` would be "2.6.20-15-generic"	07:22
stdin	napper_: no problem, amarok is (IMO) the best player in linux	07:23
hyper_ch	stdin: yes, you're right :)	07:23
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balaji	thanks everybody bye	07:24
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napper_	i tried linux a few times ... at most fedora and othe redhat clones .. but the communities never where so cool like this and never direct help me ...	07:24
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stdin	yeah, we rule :)	07:25
napper_	YES	07:25
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hyper_ch	;)	07:25
stdin	!botsnack	07:25
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sivaji	napper_ that is a special feature in kubuntu	07:26
hsystem-x	is a bot what do you expect lol ^^	07:26
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napper_	(k)ubuntu is so cool and simple	07:26
ubuntu	Bonjour	07:26
ubotu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	07:26
ubuntu	Hi	07:26
napper_	a cool community is a feature? :D	07:26
sivaji	exactly simply super kubuntu	07:26
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Solust	I have a problem trying to install wlassistant. When I copy the config file into the terminal I get this:	07:26
Solust	solust@solust-desktop:~/wlassistant-0.5.7$ '/home/solust/wlassistant-0.5.7/configure'	07:27
Solust	Checking for Python : -e /usr/bin/python	07:27
Solust	Checking for SCons : -e not found, will use mini distribution.	07:27
Solust	scons: Reading SConscript files ...	07:27
Solust	Checking for kde-config : kde-config was found as /usr/bin/kde-config	07:27
Solust	Checking for kde version : 3.5.6	07:27
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Solust	Checking for the qt library : qt was not found	07:27
stdin	hello ubuntu, if you want french help, join #kubuntu-fr	07:27
Solust	Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) or try scons -h for more options	07:27
Solust	Can anyone help please?	07:27
da	hi	07:27
sivaji	Solust use pastebin	07:27
Jucato	!paste \| Solust	07:27
ubuntu	Thanks ^	07:27
ubotu	Solust: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	07:27
dr_willis	sounds like you need to isntall several developer packages	07:27
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stanley	hi guys	07:28
dawhim	hi	07:28
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stanley	i am having a serious problem installing my internal modem	07:28
napper_	thanks a last time ... so the next time i have a questin i will join again :D but now i will enjoy my music :D	07:28
stdin	Solust: try "sudo apt-get build-dep wlassistant" first	07:29
napper_	bye	07:29
napper_	:)	07:29
BluesKaj	cool napper	07:29
stdin	bye :)	07:29
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stanley	the sl-modem-daemon-modules package states it has a conflict in adept	07:29
stanley	what can i do to fix this?	07:29
stanley	is anyone familiar with dial up modems?	07:30
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hsystem-x	stanley, if it is a conexant, there is no free drivers for it.	07:31
stdin	stanley: try "sl-modem-daemon" not "sl-modem-modules"	07:31
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stanley	yea i installed sl-modem-daemon, but sl-modem-modules is int he package relationshp stdin	07:31
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HymnToLife	stanley, are you at least sure you need slmodem ?	07:34
stanley	that's what i read on the ubuntu documentation	07:34
stanley	is there another way to configure my modem hymntolife??	07:34
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HymnToLife	depends what kind of modem it is	07:35
HymnToLife	please do a scanModem scan and pastebin the results	07:35
stdin	!pastebin	07:35
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	07:35
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nahemoth	instead of HJSPLIT, what can I use?	07:39
cox377	does anyone here use ncftp?	07:39
illriginal	Hey guys?... How would I be able to back up my bookmarks? I want to install Ubuntu Feisty but I don't want to lose my bookmarks. I'm currently on Ubuntu Edgy	07:39
nahemoth	for Kubuntu	07:39
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HymnToLife	illriginal, separathe home partition ?	07:39
nahemoth	illriginal: check for your browser's file, there must be a file which keeps your bookmarks also search engines...etc	07:40
cox377	or more to the point does anyone know how to download a hole folder, command wise	07:40
nahemoth	illriginal: after the installation, you can replace the file	07:40
HymnToLife	cox377, wget ?	07:40
nahemoth	instead of HJSPLIT, what can I use?	07:40
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HymnToLife	!repeat \| nahemoth	07:41
ubotu	nahemoth: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience	07:41
hendaus	!skype	07:41
ubotu	To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto	07:41
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lfranchi	can someone tell me what package the new_wlan_scan_sta module is in? i'm desperately trying to load it and can't	07:43
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felzix	go into your browser and: Bookmarks -> Edit Bookmarks -> File -> Save as... (or export)	07:43
felzix	illriginal	07:44
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HymnToLife	:find new_wlan	07:44
HymnToLife	!find new_wlan	07:44
ubotu	Package/file new_wlan does not exist in feisty	07:44
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HymnToLife	hmm	07:44
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illriginal	flezix?	07:44
HymnToLife	lfranchi, what are you looking for, exactly ?	07:44
lfranchi	i see howtos on the web saying to modprobe it	07:45
lfranchi	its for the atheros wireless card (in this case a macbook pro)	07:45
felzix	illriginal: you want to save your bookmarks, right? what browser do you use?	07:45
illriginal	i figured it out... went to bookmarks, organize, export, then emailed myself the bookmarks.html file	07:45
felzix	ah, FF	07:45
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illriginal	:)	07:45
lfranchi	i think its in restricted drivers or whatever, but its not for me	07:45
illriginal	the one and only	07:45
felzix	glad you worked it out :)	07:45
illriginal	yep	07:45
illriginal	well time to install feisty :D	07:45
ricardo_	anyone have any EVDO configs	07:46
lfranchi	HymnToLife: is there some way to check what package it exists in?	07:46
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ricardo_	I got a a Dell D620 with EVDO from Verizon	07:46
fdoving	lfranchi: you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com for that.	07:46
HymnToLife	lfranchi, it doesn't seem to exist in any package...	07:46
lfranchi	that can't be right	07:47
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HymnToLife	see for yourself...	07:47
lfranchi	i think i know	07:47
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lfranchi	it might be in a newer restricted-modules-generic	07:47
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fdoving	lfranchi: it's been renamed to wlan_scan_sta	07:49
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lfranchi	fdoving: oh. thanks	07:51
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wolferine	anyone use Crossover, im trying to speed up how it uses games	07:55
c1\|freaky	Kartibok: thx ^^	07:56
hendaus	somebody help me please!	07:56
felzix	hendaus: state a problem	07:57
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titanix88	try cedega	07:57
wolferine	!help hendaus	07:57
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about help hendaus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:57
hendaus	felzix: thanx, but i have install nokia suite with wine, and doesnot work	07:57
wolferine	CEDEGA	07:57
wolferine	ops	07:58
wolferine	good idea	07:58
hendaus	wolferine: my nokia cell is 6230 and i try nokia suite on wine and doesnot work	07:59
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titanix88	anyway if cedega is wines fork, is it possible to fork wine open sourcebly again for a gaming compatibility layer(not emulator ;)?	07:59
timmay	does anyone use SJPhone?	08:00
titanix88	perheps someone should stand up for it.	08:00
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wolferine	timmay, whats that?	08:01
wolferine	softphone?	08:01
timmay	yes	08:01
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titanix88	"hendaus"if you're using it as a modem, try using "wvdial". Or can try "gnokii". Don;t need wine.	08:01
titanix88	Noop!!!	08:02
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hendaus	titanix88: i have a usb cable dku-2 , nokia 6230, so is it works with gnokii and wvdial?	08:03
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titanix88	type "sudo wvdialconf"	08:04
titanix88	edit"/etc/wvdial.conf"	08:04
frojnd	has somone try to install bluetooth headset by this how to http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/build.html What I don't understand is that I can't find sample.a2dprc or a2dprc, even though everything went smood untill point I'd had to cp alsa-plugins/sample.a2dprc ~/.a2dprc There is no such file on my computer..!! arh.. anyone please ??	08:05
titanix88	set your passwd, username and dialing number(uncomment the lines first)	08:05
Kartibok	c1\|freaky: no probs hope it works	08:05
titanix88	then just "wvdial" on command line	08:06
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hendaus	titanix88: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22600/	08:06
titanix88	gnokii is pretty primitive but you should have doing a lot works with it.	08:07
timmay	how can i tell what /dev is my audio?	08:07
timmay	i'm sleecting mixer for everything but it isn't working for my softphone	08:07
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titanix88	by the way gnokii is a phone organiser.	08:08
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hendaus	titanix88: help me please friend,coz i have files document on my cell phone and i need them on my pc	08:09
titanix88	you have to be root user to edit /etc/wvdial.conf	08:12
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hendaus	titanix88: ok tell me how to enter as root	08:12
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titanix88	perheps gnokii can help you obtain your files though i am not sure. i was only able to dial through my nokia 6630.	08:13
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titanix88	Nothing else!!!	08:14
hendaus	titanix88: lets try	08:14
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hendaus	titanix88: my connection is adsl	08:14
titanix88	But you can check the doc. They say they support a lot of phones.	08:14
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hendaus	titanix88: so help me and tell me what can i do?	08:15
titanix88	OOps!That was abig mistake. :)	08:15
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titanix88	hendaus: wvdial is not for you. You should try installing "gnokii". There are a lot of doc inside it's doc directory.Read it & try it.	08:17
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hendaus	titanix88: ok i open adept and ilet me see the gnokii	08:18
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hendaus	titanix88: done	08:21
hendaus	titanix88: now what can i do	08:21
nel	hole	08:21
nel	hola	08:21
nel	komo estan?	08:21
nel	hablan espaol	08:21
nel	?	08:21
hendaus	titanix88: how can i see the module nokia 6230	08:21
hendaus	!es \| nel	08:22
ubotu	nel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	08:22
nel	ok i see tha not speak spanish	08:22
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nel	ok thanks ubotu	08:22
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titanix88	go to "/usr/share/doc/gnokii/" and try some manuals. By the way my NOKIA 6630 was kidnapped so i'm stucked with a siemenscx75 :( Don't have gnokii anymore	08:24
timmay	what's the default audio device in /dev/	08:24
timmay	for onbaord audio jacks	08:24
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hendaus	titanix88: how can i try some manuals, can u tell me please1	08:25
timmay	and what would be the USB device?	08:26
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titanix88	hendaus: just like i said.Open your file manager and go to /usr/share/doc/gnokii and there should be some "read me" and etc. Read them.	08:27
hendaus	titanix88: gnokki doesnot have the option to transfer the images from my cellphone	08:28
titanix88	timmy:perhaps /dev/audio	08:28
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Sparc42	hello	08:28
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frojnd	how can I unistall what I have installed by this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22602/ help is welcome!	08:29
BenWhitey	hey	08:29
BenWhitey	does ndiswrapper have KDE support?	08:30
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titanix88	Sorry about that. These is the typical GNU/Linux fraustration. Companies does help FOSS project's so they take long time to mature.Perheps someday gnokii will have satisfy your needs.	08:30
chrissss	!debug apt-get	08:31
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about debug apt-get - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:31
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chrissss	!debug apt	08:31
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about debug apt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:31
fdoving	chrissss: what are you trying to do?	08:31
Sparc42	can anyone help me with mount points for my DVD ROM and DVD writer	08:31
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chrissss	adept debug	08:31
BenWhitey	does ndiswrapper have KDE support?	08:31
fdoving	!adeptfix \| chrissss ?	08:31
ubotu	chrissss ?: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	08:31
chrissss	yes	08:31
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fdoving	Sparc42: it's usually /media/cdrom	08:32
Sparc42	ok	08:32
fdoving	Sparc42: or /media/cdrom0	08:32
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titanix88	ubotu: try "make uninstall"	08:32
jsubl2	anyone using a webcam with kopete	08:32
Sparc42	thank you	08:32
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BenWhitey	does ndiswrapper have KDE support?	08:34
BenWhitey	i.e. will it work in kubuntu?	08:34
Sparc42	ok well I set one to cdrom0 and the other to cdrom1 and i get errors... hence my visit here	08:35
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hendaus	titanix88: on option there is : bindir: /usr/sbin	08:35
hendaus	what should it be	08:35
titanix88	hendaus: can you post at least the line?	08:36
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BenWhitey	i'm trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=434595&page=4 but i get an error about the lack of gnome, can someone tell me what i do to follow the instructions in kde	08:38
BenWhitey	**with kde	08:38
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BenWhitey	or should i jus tignore it	08:38
hendaus	titanix88: brb ,,,,	08:38
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secret	can someone help me out with a problem I'm having with my sound? I installed Kubuntu and I'm only getting sound from one side of my speakers and headphones?	08:40
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mas195	hi everyone	08:41
secret	help me me out please?	08:41
secret	any suggestions?	08:41
secret	hi mas	08:41
mas195	i have a problem that i cannot get around... being a complete newb	08:41
secret	me too = newb	08:41
secret	having probs with my sound	08:41
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mas195	when i launch the adept package manager an error comes up stating that another programs is accessing the database but nothing else is running....	08:42
secret	yeah look down on the task bar	08:42
secret	do you have an exclaimnation mark there	08:42
mas195	i have but nothing is running	08:42
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secret	log off, then log back on	08:43
mas195	and no, the auto update icon is not present...	08:43
secret	auto update aye?	08:43
secret	ook	08:43
titanix88	secret: u have newly installed linux?	08:43
mas195	i have tried that too, and restarting and shutting down and coming back up but no luck	08:43
mas195	yeah... just last night	08:43
secret	oi, im only getting sound from one speaker?	08:43
secret	yes	08:43
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secret	only just ten minutes ago	08:43
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secret	sick of windows and their dam error reporting	08:44
mas195	ditto	08:44
titanix88	secret: did they sound fine b4?	08:44
secret	with windows, yes	08:44
titanix88	i mean in windows?	08:44
secret	in windows it was fine	08:45
secret	but with linux, it's strange	08:45
secret	i side is real low, while the other side is normal	08:45
secret	1	08:45
titanix88	secret: do u find tyhe sound applet?	08:45
secret	what's this?	08:45
secret	Kmix?	08:45
secret	where's this applet?	08:46
titanix88	ya, configured it?	08:46
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secret	i played around with it to try and fix it but no good	08:46
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titanix88	bottom right corner of screen	08:46
titanix88	tried to balance the sounds?	08:47
secret	I see no options where I can balance the sounds	08:48
titanix88	theres a balance bar at bottom of kmix configure diag	08:48
titanix88	ryt click kmix and select <show mixer window>	08:49
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secret	ok	08:49
secret	?	08:49
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secret	HD ULI thing?	08:50
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titanix88	at the bottom of the mixer window see a bar? set it to middle	08:50
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secret	It is set to the middle friend	08:50
secret	there's something wrong	08:51
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secret	hey, when I mute, it dosen't work	08:51
secret	wtf? still sound from youtube	08:52
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titanix88	from keyboard?	08:52
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secret	from keyboard and icon	08:52
secret	dosen't mute	08:53
Sparc42	does KDE distinguish between CD and DVD? ie /media/cdrom1 is actually a DVD writer	08:53
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secret	you want me to put dvd in?	08:53
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BluesKaj	secret, still hve yer browser open but minimized perhaps?	08:53
Sparc42	b/c I get this error trying to mount: The system reported: mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist	08:53
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BluesKaj	Sparc42, yes	08:53
titanix88	spark: no, its all the same	08:53
secret	i have youtube running ok	08:54
Sparc42	ok. any suggestions on my error then?	08:54
mas195	how can i terminate adept database access when adept is not running	08:54
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secret	when I play an mp3 or anything involving sound, only one side gives sound on stereo and headphones	08:54
BluesKaj	hdd is usually the hrd drive not the dvd/cdrom drive	08:54
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oldwest	hay all - any ideas on getting divx to play in website?	08:55
BluesKaj	secret, in the terminal type alsamixer ...try setting your balances in there	08:55
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Sparc42	yea that's what I thought... i have 2 drives mount points are /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 type auto for both and devices are /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 both are disabled	08:56
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Sparc42	then when i try to enable i get that error	08:57
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BluesKaj	Sparc42, , place a cd in one and check system settings again	08:57
mas195	how can i terminate adept database access when adept is not running	08:58
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BluesKaj	mas195, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	08:58
secret	still no good, what could be causing this?	08:58
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jaime	hola	08:59
frojnd	FFS has anyone here managed to install a2dpd driver??? I was trying to install all parts and depdendencies to work bluetooth headset. Bur everything stops when i come to the point that I have to edita2dprc. There is no such file... I was trying to install it by this tutorial, I think all known site: http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/build.html Can someone tell me where to edit file a2dprc or maybe is another thing?	08:59
mas195	thank you... that did the trick...	08:59
secret	where's me friend go?	08:59
Sparc42	cd inserted. appears as audio cd on desktop but it can't read it	09:00
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BluesKaj	secret, relogin : ctrl+alt+backspce	09:00
mas195	one other problem.... why does the network manager not detect my wireless network....	09:00
michael	lol	09:00
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jaime	hay alguien aqui que hable espaol??? necesito una poca de ayuda	09:00
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BluesKaj	Sparc42, look in system settings /advanced/disc & file systems	09:01
Sparc42	yep there	09:01
BluesKaj	!es \| jaime	09:01
ubotu	jaime: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	09:01
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jaime	gracias	09:01
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Castor_Troy	!ru	09:02
ubotu	#ubuntu-ru / Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke	09:02
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konqerr	hi	09:02
Funkah	Russian yayay	09:02
BluesKaj	!rs	09:02
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about rs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:02
konqerr	I need help	09:02
konqerr	how do I motn NTFS partition?	09:02
BluesKaj	!ru	09:02
konqerr	is not showing	09:02
konqerr	plase	09:02
konqerr	help	09:02
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Castor_Troy	Funkah what what?	09:02
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konqerr	anyone?	09:03
Funkah	Yay fror russian speak.	09:03
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BluesKaj	!ru	09:03
ubotu	#ubuntu-ru / Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke	09:03
Castor_Troy	Funkah -?	09:03
konqerr	anyone??	09:03
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konqerr	I need to mount NTFS partition	09:03
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Funkah	Errr. Njet.	09:04
BluesKaj	konqerr, install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config	09:04
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konqerr	BluesKaj: does the LiveCD have it?	09:04
BluesKaj	no	09:05
konqerr	I am using LiveCd and have not tiem to go through the install process	09:05
konqerr	oh crap	09:05
Castor_Troy	Funkah speak russian?	09:05
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Funkah	Nope.	09:06
BluesKaj	well, not totally definite , but you can try mounting thru the system menu	09:06
BluesKaj	and storage media	09:06
konqerr	who me?	09:08
konqerr	wheres that at	09:08
BluesKaj	yeah	09:08
BluesKaj	beside the K-menu\	09:08
konqerr	system settings?	09:08
Sparc42	in admin mode. they are listed there but get the hdd error when I try to enable	09:08
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konqerr	I guess sharing?	09:08
BluesKaj	run the cursor over the panel icons	09:08
konqerr	fdisk and filesystem?	09:09
konqerr	under advanced?	09:09
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konqerr	doesn't tell me i can mount it	09:10
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konqerr	anyone>?	09:11
oldwest	Anyone help on this - Can't play movies online at Divx site?	09:11
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oldwest	Have every player and codec I can think of or read about for kubnutu	09:12
oldwest	still no go..... - frustrating grrrr	09:12
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konqerr	no	09:13
konqerr	doesn't help	09:13
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konqerr	i need a straight way for doing this without a GUI or front end user	09:13
konqerr	WOOT!!!!!!!!	09:14
hendaus	titanix88: i cant see the path /usr/share/doc/gnokii	09:14
Sparc42	BluesKaj: getting this error as root: The system reported: mount: block device /dev/scd1 is write-protected, mounting read-only	09:14
Sparc42	mount: you must specify the filesystem type	09:14
konqerr	LOL I mounted like this outta desperation	09:15
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konqerr	mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media/m$$$	09:15
konqerr	ok	09:15
konqerr	now it tells me the permission stuff	09:15
illriginal	Can someone help me with checkgmail? I'd like for it to pop up on the taskbar	09:15
konqerr	how do I do this?	09:15
konqerr	what kinda permissions	09:16
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konqerr	ok please someone NTFS permissions !!	09:16
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konqerr	holla back	09:17
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konqerr	i am desperate	09:17
konqerr	need to burn some stuff and m$$ isn't recognizing the DVD RW and linux DOES recognitize it	09:17
konqerr	I mounted NTFS	09:17
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konqerr	I just need the valid permission	09:17
BluesKaj	Sparc42, what kind of cd did you mount ?	09:17
Sparc42	audio	09:17
Sparc42	not sure it is mounted b/c its not able to access it	09:18
BluesKaj	burned or original?	09:18
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Sparc42	original	09:18
konqerr	it is mounted	09:18
BluesKaj	aha	09:18
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Sparc42	?	09:18
konqerr	here /dev/sda2 on /media/windows type ntfs (rw)	09:18
konqerr	I used mount to see	09:18
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BluesKaj	try a burned cd and then we ahve a reference	09:19
konqerr	OMG please someone what kinda permissions	09:19
stellar	Hi! Is there any way i could play my guitar trough some vst-plugins?	09:19
illriginal	Can someone help me to get my checkmail to start up when ubuntu starts up?!	09:19
BluesKaj	konqerr, -su	09:19
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illriginal	Can someone help me to get my checkmail to start up when ubuntu starts up?!	09:20
konqerr	yea well I need k3b to use it as well	09:20
Sparc42	BK: it asked me the autorun but when I said open in window, nothing happened	09:20
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konqerr	I need to burn stuff	09:20
konqerr	besidesd su what?	09:20
konqerr	how is that gonna help	09:20
konqerr	?	09:20
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ubuntu_	Hi ^^	09:21
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konqerr	omg, c'mon someone, a simple permission line for NTFS!!!	09:21
konqerr	or /media/ntfs	09:21
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Funkah	del all	09:22
Funkah	If it's so simple, figure it out?	09:22
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stellar	does someone know a good vst-host program for kubuntu?	09:23
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Sparc42	any further suggestions?	09:26
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BluesKaj	konqerr, go unto system settings/ advanced/ disk & filesystems /...try to enable the ntfs file system	09:27
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hendaus	helpers, anyone help please!	09:28
BluesKaj	BTW konqerr did you install windows after ubuntu by any chance ?	09:28
marko	somebody here use tango icons ?	09:28
amikabil	hendaus, ur problem what?	09:28
marko	can i get an ubuntu pakage for kde	09:29
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amikabil	marko: u want gnome packages i guess?	09:30
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marko	no	09:30
marko	for kde	09:30
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konqerr	BluesKaj: no I am using live CD	09:31
konqerr	I need to burn some stuff to free room on the m$$ partition	09:31
hendaus	amikabil: i have installed gnokii, my cellphone nokia 6230	09:31
konqerr	m$$ isn't recognizing the DVD RW unlike Linux	09:31
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hendaus	amikabil: i have many documents very important on my cell and i want to transfer them to my pc, how can u help me	09:31
konqerr	this isn't working so far: ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000	09:32
amikabil	marko, what package do u want?	09:32
konqerr	nor is this one: ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000	09:32
marko	i need tango icons for kde	09:32
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amikabil	hendaus: ur docs on memory card?	09:32
hendaus	amikabil: yes my memory card? sorry	09:33
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BluesKaj	why the panic , konqerr ...you don't have normal access to windowa on yer pc/laptop?	09:33
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secret	wtf? this linux is fkn playing up sothing shocking.	09:33
MarioBot	hola como estac	09:33
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MarioBot	hola que hay de nuevo	09:33
secret	everything is big, and I can't change it too 1024x768	09:34
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BluesKaj	!es \| MarioBot	09:34
ubotu	MarioBot: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	09:34
secret	my speaker is only working	09:34
secret	1	09:34
MarioBot	gracias	09:34
amikabil	as far as i know its not yet possible to explore a phone from ubuntu as is possible in MS win	09:34
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wouterh	hi, guidance-power-save does not seem to use the lowest power mode of my processor, even not with the powersave governor	09:34
secret	where'd my friend go	09:34
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hendaus	amikabil: i was using on windows nokia suite for my cellphone, but on kubuntu i install the same program with wine and doesnot work :(	09:35
konqerr	BluesKaj: I do	09:35
nahemoth	do you have any idea about how I can open the files "...part1.rar , ...part2.rar...etc" .... Ark normally opens them, but if the file has a password, then Ark has a problem, how can I decompress those files...?	09:35
konqerr	I have a liveCD and I need to burn stuff outta the NTFS partition ASAP	09:35
Kartibok	Hi, anyone know what the gadgets such as weather that you can put on your desktop are called? Many thanks	09:35
konqerr	'causet the thing is FULL	09:35
konqerr	I need to free up hard drive	09:36
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konqerr	and m$$ isn't recognizing the DVD RW	09:36
secret	can someone help me?	09:36
konqerr	so I am doing it off LiveCD	09:36
amikabil	hendaus: sorry impossible yet on ubuntu	09:36
secret	therez something wrong with my screen, theres something wrong with my sound	09:36
BluesKaj	secret, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/config monitor/config graphics card ...apply close and logout and back in again, now you can reset your resolution	09:36
hendaus	amikabil: so there is no solution?	09:36
amikabil	hendaus: sorry my friend. but dont you have a memory card reader?	09:37
BluesKaj	konqerr, why are you trying to burn windows files with a live cd ... ?	09:38
konqerr	yeah	09:38
BluesKaj	why?	09:38
konqerr	'cause m$$$ doesn't recognize the damn DVD RW	09:38
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BluesKaj	whynot just do it in windows	09:38
konqerr	that's why and Linux DOES	09:38
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konqerr	'CAUSDSEM$$$ DOEWN NOT WRCONSIOGE IOT!!!	09:38
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BluesKaj	well, sorry but you have to install ubuntu first AFAIK	09:39
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konqerr	na	09:39
konqerr	there's a way to do it command line	09:39
konqerr	I've done this before	09:39
tekky	anyone know why when I click on "administrator mode" the window highlights with the red box but doesnt ask for a password or bring up any config options?	09:39
hendaus	amikabil: memory card of my cellphone?	09:39
konqerr	what are the USER permissions to pass to /media/windows?	09:40
BluesKaj	the time you spent in here trying to get it to work, could have been spent installing ubuntu	09:40
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amikabil	hendaus: yes	09:40
konqerr	omg	09:40
konqerr	this is a crysys	09:40
tekky	actualyl I figured it out, if I Open the package manager then it will ask on the cpanel for my password as well...	09:41
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tekky	kinda buggy but it works	09:41
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shigutso	how do I Auto-Play songs in Amarok, and NOT Auto-Add-To-Playlist?? (using Ubuntu 7.04 + Gnome)	09:41
hendaus	amikabil: ok i have save them on the memory , so is there a way to take all the files from cell to my pc?	09:42
BluesKaj	usb dongle hendaus	09:42
hendaus	BluesKaj: whats that?	09:43
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BluesKaj	cable and connector	09:43
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hendaus	BluesKaj: yes the cable is usb dku-2	09:44
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secret	ok, ill tell you what ima gona do with this shit	09:44
lu-bao	help me i have newest kubuntu feisty fawn on my notebook everything works (graphics Wine + steam and so on) except sound i have no sound doesnt matter what i do in kmix :(	09:44
amikabil	hendaus: buy a memory card reader, less than 5dollars the chinese ones, put ur memory card there, u r done	09:44
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secret	look at that, no sound like me	09:44
secret	lu boa i have same problem	09:44
lu-bao	secret, huh? .	09:45
secret	no sound eh?	09:45
lu-bao	i have um Realtek High Definition Audio chip	09:45
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secret	I have the same sound card too	09:45
lu-bao	its on my new toshiba satellite A100-00A	09:45
secret	and i get no sound in kubuntu 7.04	09:45
BluesKaj	lu-bao, alsamix in the terminal and Unmute using the letter 'm"	09:45
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BluesKaj	alsamixer ..sorry	09:46
hendaus	BluesKaj: i connect the usb, and i open gnokii,on option there is not found the module of my nokia 6230, it shows as unknown	09:46
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BluesKaj	hendaus,lookin in system menu storagemedia	09:46
lu-bao	BluesKaj, cant since PCM still has no button to unmute	09:47
lu-bao	otherwise when i unmute "Front" i get a weird sound like a cooler from inside rofl	09:47
secret	lu boa do you get sound on one side of speaker?	09:47
BluesKaj	the letter "m" lu-bao	09:47
secret	where's the letter m?	09:47
lu-bao	it says Card: HDA Intel Chip: Realtek ALC861-VD	09:47
lu-bao	BluesKaj, i pressed m ......	09:47
secret	so when the mixer opens you type the letter m?	09:48
lu-bao	secret no i dont get sound	09:48
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hendaus	BluesKaj: where is system menu storagemedia?	09:48
secret	Realtek ALC880	09:48
lu-bao	i have ALC861-VD	09:48
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BluesKaj	lu-bao, make sure you use the arrow keys to highlight your selection , then m	09:48
lu-bao	BluesKaj, lol i know how to use alsamixer i would be here when i had a "mute" problem..	09:49
BluesKaj	should turn red	09:49
lu-bao	everything is at 100% and unmuted	09:49
lu-bao	there is no sound	09:49
secret	im having same problem as lu-boa	09:49
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secret	it has to do with realtek	09:49
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lu-bao	damn and i thought first "omfg feisty fawn how genius does that looks like so awesome nice graphics and functions" and then... no sound rofl xD	09:50
lu-bao	without sound i can forget the whole OS ...	09:50
secret	i've been having problems ever since i installed 30 mins ago	09:51
lu-bao	with debian4.0r0 (gnome desktop) i had sound but in kubuntu (kde) i have no sound maybe an kde issue ?	09:51
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BluesKaj	go to the IEC958P and put ti in analog mode ,then unmute the IEC958	09:51
secret	what's the IEC968P?	09:52
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lu-bao	IEC958 is unmuted its a yellow mark at it (kmix)	09:52
hendaus	BluesKaj: where is system menu storagemedia? i am at a office and i want to gave them the documents from my cell	09:52
BluesKaj	just scroll across , you'll see it	09:52
secret	whats that command again?	09:53
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BluesKaj	hendaus, usually right beside the kmenu , it' the same one with Home	09:53
lu-bao	BluesKaj, i dont have IEC958P only IEC958	09:53
secret	to bring up the mixer in the terminals?	09:53
bader_	lol I have a Q: I have Kubuntu installed. I tried to install Ubuntu over it using an ubuntu live CD. The installation went pretty well (I used a guided partition at 100% of the current drive) and restarted the pc. I ended up back in Kubuntu though.. I thought It had formatted!	09:53
lu-bao	bader_, lol	09:54
bader_	I know :P I'm confused!	09:54
lu-bao	now thats a stupid issue never heard before :)	09:54
bader_	Well sorrt!	09:54
bader_	sorry*	09:54
lu-bao	for what Oo	09:54
lu-bao	you did nothing wrong?	09:54
bader_	for being stupid!	09:54
secret	ok listen lu, it's back to windows	09:54
bader_	can someone help me plz :P	09:54
hendaus	BluesKaj: ok yes, so what can i do	09:54
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lu-bao	omg -.- stop that...	09:55
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konqerr	arrrrgghg what a failure	09:55
lu-bao	mh well now i'll try ubuntu my last chance :/	09:55
konqerr	that's why gentoo is better, for real	09:55
lu-bao	when i wont have sound there too then....mh	09:55
lu-bao	konqerr, it was never....	09:55
bader_	i dont have sound here, but do on ubuntu!	09:55
bader_	grr	09:55
bader_	i guess no one can help?	09:55
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secret	it's something to do with the realtek cards... where would we get the drivers?	09:56
bader_	grr	09:56
lu-bao	gentoo is for high skilled with alot of annoying compiling stuff and issues -.-	09:56
darryl_	Hey does anyone here know of a work around for stupid webpages that are designed to work ONLY with IE? I have Kubuntu and Firefox but need to access this site - does anyone know of a work around for this?	09:56
bader_	i guess im gone then, thanks anyways	09:56
BluesKaj	bader, Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same ...the diffrence is in the desktop each one uses , ubuntu uses gnome , kubuntu uses Kde , theref ore at the login screen you choose which desktop to use	09:56
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lu-bao	BluesKaj, yeah but kde soundsystem makes issues and is stupid mostly	09:56
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secret	ok	09:57
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BluesKaj	darryl , try FF addon "IE for FF"	09:57
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darryl_	BluesKaj: ah - never heard of that	09:57
secret	lu-boa: if you work out the problem, email me at ehlolz@gmail.com - i am going now to ask some people this question in the ubuntu forums.	09:58
secret	I have the same prob k	09:58
lu-bao	secret i hate emailing :p	09:58
hendaus	BluesKaj: i open storage media, and then what can i do	09:58
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ohma1	Ok I have an issue hopefully someone can help sort out.. I installed 7.04 x86_64 just now, and I resized my ntfs partition, leaving ~20% for ubuntu... now when I try to access my windows partition it just says starting... and freezes there	09:58
darryl_	BluesKaj: where you refering to this? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419 if so it does not work on Linux.....	09:58
secret	ok then	09:58
BluesKaj	lu-bao and secret , try the gnome app called Gnome Alsa Mixer ...it's easier to setup and works	09:59
lu-bao	oh btw. maybe i should say that i did an upgrade installation i did no clean install from a 7.04 CD i did an internet upgrade to 7.04 from 6.06	09:59
ZmAY	hello, my laptop doesent want to turn on, any ideas what to do?	09:59
jerzy	charge the bettery?	09:59
darryl_	ZmAY: charge the battery?	09:59
secret	where do we get this app, Gnome Also Mixer friend?	09:59
lu-bao	buy a new power cord :D	09:59
ZmAY	its charged, also plugged in	09:59
jerzy	press the right button?	09:59
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ZmAY	i did	10:00
ohma1	does anyone have a solution for the problem I outlined above?	10:00
BluesKaj	darryl_, sorry to hear that :( ...dunno how to help in that case , unless the opera or konqueror browsers may work	10:00
jerzy	change the laptop?	10:00
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ZmAY	perhaps:)	10:00
ZmAY	any other ideas that might help?	10:00
lu-bao	but thats stupid mh i mean look i installed 7.04 and i was so proud my wireless lan was working directly (IntelPRO 3945ABG) but now sound doesnt work whats that for a crap :( why not everything works stupid realtek :(	10:01
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BluesKaj	!gnome-alsa	10:01
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-alsa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:01
darryl_	BluesKaj: its becase teh stupid website needs activex - I wondering if there is something in Linux that can "emulate" this to allow me to use this website	10:01
secret	woah, you can't even copy and past text...	10:01
jerzy	kubuntu is the best distribution	10:01
secret	they need to fix this	10:01
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lu-bao	jerzy, as long sound works....well...yes.....but it doesnt -.-	10:02
BluesKaj	secret , type in the terminal sudo apt-get install gnome-alsa	10:02
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secret	ok	10:02
secret	thanks	10:02
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BluesKaj	darryl_, I think there is , but I'm not sure how to use it	10:02
konqerr	I juest wanted to say that Kubuntu didn't NOT solve my problem	10:02
lu-bao	kubuntu feisty fawn needs a soundcard fix :/	10:02
Pollywog	Was there some update to kubuntu Feisty that fixed the logout problem - having to exit to gdm to shutdown or restartt? I have no idea why I am getting a proper exit menu but I like it	10:03
konqerr	something as simple as mounting an NTFS partitoini to burn sutff off it	10:03
konqerr	unbelivable	10:03
secret	couldn't find package?	10:03
darryl_	BluesKaj: do you know what its called?	10:03
hendaus	BluesKaj: excuse me dude, but i am waiting for you request , thanx :)	10:03
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lu-bao	is it normal that kubuntu uses alot of ubuntu packages? xD	10:04
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BluesKaj	darryl_, Mozilla Active X control for Windows , but you have to run it in Wine :(	10:05
Pollywog	has anyone else using kde with gdm noticed something different when they shutdown or reboot?	10:06
Pollywog	since yesterday	10:06
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Pollywog	I am wondering if it is some sort of fluke	10:06
Pollywog	a nice fluke	10:06
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BluesKaj	darryl_, foundit ! CrossOver Plugin Version 1.2,	10:06
darryl_	BluesKaj: ok i will google that - thanks	10:07
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phazeman	hi people. does anybody running ubuntu/kubuntu on intel 82954G express chipset (vonboard video) ?	10:07
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secret	oi maybe the soundcard is not within the start menu. for example, when the computer starts up it dosen't actually load the driver for the sound card?	10:08
BluesKaj	darryl_, it costs :(	10:08
secret	i dont know, just trying to work this out	10:08
c1\|freaky	lu-bao: yea ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu (edubuntu also) all use the same repositorys	10:09
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secret	does linux have a start menu? where is it?	10:09
secret	start-up devices	10:09
c1\|freaky	secret: low-left that think with a K on it called kmenu	10:09
Pollywog	Linux? You mean KDE?	10:09
c1\|freaky	*'thing	10:10
BluesKaj	hendaus, what are you waiting for ? ...you can't find theSystem menu ?	10:10
secret	no start-up programs menu?	10:10
coreymon77	secret: ya, over in the bottom left corner, the thing with the K on it, thats the "start menu" for linux	10:10
amikabil	secret: you are crazy to say that!!!The "K Menu" is the start menu!	10:10
secret	no	10:10
c1\|freaky	secret: autostart	10:10
secret	autostart programs?	10:10
secret	where's it?	10:10
secret	the folder?	10:10
BluesKaj	windoze ppl :)	10:10
coreymon77	secret: /home directory/.kde/autostart	10:10
secret	thx	10:10
amikabil	hendaus: what abt the memcard reader?	10:10
Pollywog	secret: ~/.kde/Autostart/	10:11
c1\|freaky	umm i dont know wait a minute ill have a look maybe i can find it	10:11
coreymon77	c1\|freaky: i already found it	10:11
Pollywog	coreymon77: is it Autostart or autostart ?	10:11
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c1\|freaky	ok ^^	10:11
Pollywog	I have Autostart	10:11
coreymon77	Pollywog: makes no diff	10:12
Pollywog	oh?	10:12
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coreymon77	Pollywog: im just too lazy to type captials	10:12
hendaus	BluesKaj: u told me to open storage media, but there is no system menu	10:12
Pollywog	well in Linux there is a diff	10:12
darryl_	BluesKaj: I found a better one called IEs 4 Linux	10:12
Pollywog	unless you know something that I don't know	10:12
Pollywog	well I am sure you know lots that I don't know	10:12
hendaus	amikabil: the memory is on the cell phone,so what can i do?	10:12
secret	I cant find it	10:13
coreymon77	secret: try Autostart (capital)	10:13
Pollywog	secret you might have to cd to ~/.kde and then mkdir Autostart	10:13
amikabil	secret:"~" means your home folder.	10:13
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coreymon77	Pollywog: what do you mean by that?	10:14
secret	there's nothing in the Autostart folder? we need it to start up the sound card	10:14
Pollywog	still a newbie	10:14
hendaus	BluesKaj: i open storage media: and it shows : cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 and ect..	10:14
coreymon77	secret: is that what you mean, you want to autostart hardware?	10:15
secret	installed 1 hour ago	10:15
amikabil	hendaus:you have to remove it probably by opening the back cover and removing the battary.	10:15
Pollywog	<---still a newbie	10:15
secret	i want my sound card to work	10:15
secret	i have no sound	10:15
hendaus	amikabil: ok and then	10:15
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Pollywog	secret what is your sound card?	10:16
Pollywog	which chipset	10:16
secret	realtek, I installed kubuntu 1 hour ago and I have not heard sound?	10:16
secret	i try mp3 = no sound	10:16
amikabil	hendaus: you have to buy a memory card reader. you will find it in your local mobile accs store.	10:16
Pollywog	which Realtek?	10:16
secret	youtube = no sound	10:16
secret	how do i find out?	10:17
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GrueTamer	secret: type alsamixer in the terminal	10:17
GrueTamer	it should say	10:17
secret	Realtek ALC880	10:17
GrueTamer	im just curious, is anything there muted?	10:17
secret	HDA ULI M5461	10:18
amikabil	hendaus: plug the memory card in the reader and plug the reader in your pc. the mem card will auto mount just like an ordinary USB drive.	10:18
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hendaus	amikabil: i am at the office right now,i need to make this transfering now	10:18
secret	the headphones look muted	10:18
GrueTamer	that doesnt matter	10:18
Pollywog	I think Realtek ALC880 should work	10:18
Pollywog	in Linux	10:18
secret	i have my computer connected to a stereo, and i have headphones connected to stereo	10:19
amikabil	hendaus: then try borrowing one from your colligues!!	10:19
secret	it worked on windows	10:19
hendaus	amikabil: here in my country cannot found memory card reader	10:19
rubyat	try speaker-test	10:19
GrueTamer	well, if you use headphones for audio, then unmute them	10:19
amikabil	what country?!	10:19
amikabil	hendaus: what country?!	10:19
secret	it red writing though	10:19
secret	i can unmute	10:20
hendaus	amikabil: col	10:20
secret	cant unmute	10:20
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GrueTamer	try see if the sound works without your headphones in the mix	10:20
amikabil	hendous: perdon me?	10:20
amikabil	hendaus: perdon me?	10:20
hendaus	BluesKaj: http://siddharthdawara.blogspot.com/2006/09/gnokii-dku-2-nokia-6230-linux.html, i am reading this and i think there is solution	10:21
hendaus	amikabil: xubuntu is the same of kubuntu?	10:21
amikabil	hendaus: uses less mem so runs fast.	10:22
secret	nope	10:22
nahemoth	hendaus: and uses xfce instead of KDE	10:22
amikabil	hendaus: what means "col"?	10:23
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secret	restarting sound system is taken for fucking hours FUCK this is core duo wtf is this?	10:23
secret	sorry	10:23
hendaus	amikabil: edit your /etc/gnokiirc to reflect a serial connection , how can i open it?	10:23
hendaus	amikabil: col = colombia	10:23
fdoving	!language \| secret	10:23
ubotu	secret: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	10:23
secret	this is frustrating	10:24
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mattsqz	man	10:24
mattsqz	if its taking forever then something hates you	10:25
mattsqz	kill it	10:25
mattsqz	and try again	10:25
c1\|freaky	there are good and bad times with linux as as with windows :D	10:25
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mattsqz	maybe tell it to kick out some debug to ya	10:25
secret	i did, and i did again, it wont finish	10:25
amikabil	hendaus: i'm from Bangladesh and scrapy chineese 2$ mem reader are pretty available here. TRy your local chineese electronics.	10:25
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Pollywog	secret: are you a member of the audio group?	10:26
hendaus	amikabil: now the site that i gave for you, can u tell me how to make ---------> edit your /etc/gnokiirc to reflect a serial connection	10:26
Pollywog	look at /etc/group	10:26
secret	what is this audio group?	10:26
Pollywog	look at the file /etc/group	10:27
secret	i search this, nothing happen	10:27
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Pollywog	your username should be on the same line as "audio"	10:27
Pollywog	like this: audio:x:29:pollywog,mythtv	10:27
secret	how do i get there?	10:28
rubyat	secret: open a Konsole and run speaker-test will make noise or give you errors	10:28
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secret	also, when i log out, everything is really big on the log in screen	10:28
Pollywog	secret: cat /etc/group	10:28
nahemoth__	is there any package(s) that can open rar files which divided and passworded	10:28
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kane_	are there packages availabe for thunderbird2?	10:28
Pollywog	if it is not there use 'sudo adduser <username> audio'	10:28
Pollywog	then logout and login again	10:29
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secret	'it keeps on repeating 'front	10:30
secret	Time per period = 2.986317	10:30
secret	0 - Front Left	10:30
Pollywog	nahemoth__: unrar won't do it?	10:30
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secret	the user 'secret' is already a member of audio	10:31
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superkirbyartist	Hey guys, I have Kubuntu installed on my iMac, but I would like OS 9 as well. Can anyone help, please?	10:32
secret	dual boot	10:32
superkirbyartist	How, secret? How?	10:32
superkirbyartist	!powerpc	10:32
ubotu	PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ	10:32
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GrueTamer	superkirbyartist: you just need to install grub and make room on the hard drive, and then install mac os 9	10:33
secret	pollywog any other ideas?	10:33
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superkirbyartist	GrueTamer, it's Yaboot on the iMac.	10:34
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GrueTamer	oh	10:34
GrueTamer	i did not know that	10:34
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hendaus	BluesKaj: r u there	10:35
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hendaus	can anyone tell me how to make --> edit your /etc/gnokiirc to reflect a serial connection ?	10:35
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illriginal	What's up guys	10:36
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felzix	playing with cl. you?	10:36
GrueTamer	hey illriginal	10:37
illriginal	I have a question, when i right click, click on properties, and click on permissions, it reads "owner: unknown"	10:37
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illriginal	How do I get my machine to recognize me as the user	10:37
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illriginal	I have a question, when i right click, click on properties, and click on permissions, it reads "owner: unknown". How do I get my machine to recognize me as the user	10:41
ShadyTree	does IE work in Kubuntu. I think I need it to test cross-browser compatibility for my sites	10:41
ShadyTree	illriginal, cant you cahnge it	10:42
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illriginal	ShadyTree, I uh... don't know how to :X	10:42
footbeta	hendaus: i read it and it was like kernel hacking. even if you do that you won't be able to cpy your images cause gnokii doesn't have such option.	10:42
ShadyTree	illriginal, if not, just Alt+F2 and kdesu konqueror	10:42
ShadyTree	run Konqueror with sudo	10:42
cathal	how do u load kde's password manager as it failed to load at the start and i cant find it in the start menu	10:43
footbeta	hendaus: i m amikabil	10:43
illriginal	heh, im on gnome :X	10:43
ShadyTree	oh	10:43
ShadyTree	then	10:43
fdoving	cathal: kmenu -> run command - write: kwalletmanager	10:43
Kartibok	secret: I had the same problem with my front screen after a did a driver change. If you change the change the resolution with the administrator mode to say 1024 x 786 and restart x you should be OK	10:44
hendaus	footbeta: so what about to get the gnokii source?	10:44
cathal	thanks fdoving	10:44
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hendaus	footbeta: tell me how to edit /etc/gnokiirc	10:45
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superkirbyartist	I got the Mac OS 9 running in Mac-on-Linux. How do I install it properly?	10:46
footbeta	hendaus: it was like s/he double installed gnokii(frm source and frm repository)to make sure(!) and somehow combined device driver code of your cable frm kernel source.	10:46
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illriginal	I have a question, when i right click, click on properties, and click on permissions, it reads "owner: unknown". How do I get my machine to recognize me as the user	10:46
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illriginal	By the way this is on Gnome]	10:46
nahemoth__	what do you use instead of HJSPLIT	10:46
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hendaus	footbeta: ok tell me how to can i edit /etc/gnokiirc , why u dont like to tell me	10:47
nahemoth__	what codec should I install in order to watch MKV files?	10:47
secret	ok thanks... but my sound problem is more serious then first thought...	10:47
footbeta	hendous: no taugh.just type "sudo kate /etc/gnokiirc" in command line.you will be prompted for passwd.	10:48
secret	alot of patchs and compiling structured idk windows	10:48
footbeta	hendaus: no taugh.just type "sudo kate /etc/gnokiirc" in command line.you will be prompted for passwd.	10:48
ShadyTree	illriginal, did you ask in #Ubuntu	10:48
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illriginal	yeah i have been for the last 30 minutes	10:49
illriginal	no response	10:49
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illriginal	im tryin to search through ubuntu forums	10:49
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ShadyTree	illriginal, ok, just do this. open terminal, type sudo nautilus	10:51
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hendaus	footbeta: can i show u the gnokii file?	10:52
ShadyTree	its probably a stupid way to do it, but I dont use Ubuntu	10:52
footbeta	hendaus: yah ofcourse	10:52
illriginal	Initializing gnome-mount extension	10:53
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illriginal	ShadyTree all it did was open up my root- File Browser, still the permissions doesn't recognize that I'm the owner (owner: unknown)	10:53
hendaus	footbeta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22622/	10:54
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ShadyTree	illriginal, I know, but you can change the permissions now from the browser	10:54
illriginal	ShadyTree: I clicked on Computer, and it doesn't show my slave drive]	10:55
illriginal	Sorry, couldn't change the permissions of "Filesyste	10:55
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ShadyTree	illriginal, ok. I dont know then	10:55
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illriginal	heh ok	10:55
illriginal	how bout htis	10:55
illriginal	this*	10:55
illriginal	how do i make myself root?	10:55
illriginal	desu?	10:56
BluesKaj	sudo su	10:56
illriginal	i need an owner's manual for linux lol	10:56
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illriginal	i gotta stop dependin on others for this stuff lol	10:56
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BluesKaj	we all need help sometimes , illriginal	10:56
BluesKaj	:)	10:57
illriginal	i know... it just sucks when you wait hours and hours at a time to get things done because you depend on others -.-	10:57
illriginal	everyone should be responsible for everything they own :D	10:57
hendaus	footbeta: did u see if its support nokia 6230 b	10:57
hendaus	BluesKaj: why u told me to open storage media,?	10:58
BluesKaj	thankgod this is just a hobby for me ...I'd hate to have use this room for advice if I was still working	10:58
BluesKaj	sorry hendaus I'm in the middle of BBQing dinner , I forgot what you were trying to do	10:59
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footbeta	hendaus: it looks like the repository of ubuntu is old and new releases of gnokii solves your problem but only sources are available. In some weeks you will be able to find a working dloadable package.that's all i can help.	11:01
hendaus	BluesKaj: i want to take all the files from he memory of my cell phone nokia 6230, and now i install gnokii and it is not working	11:01
BluesKaj	the connected device should show up in media storage	11:01
hendaus	footbeta: the site that i gave u , it has a link to download gnokii source	11:02
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hendaus	BluesKaj: i have connected the cable dku-2 , and i open storage media and i can see just cdrom,cdrom1,hdb,floopy,floopy0,hal-mtab.hidden and directory....	11:04
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footbeta	hendaus: dload is no problem. u can do this from gnokii's home page. by the way my friend has a dku-2 cable and i will try it . give me your address.Maybe help you later.	11:05
hendaus	footbeta: what address?	11:06
footbeta	hendaus: email.	11:06
illriginal	Can someone PLEASE help make my ownership go from UNKNOWN to illriginal (I need ownership!!!!)	11:07
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hendaus	footbeta: did u got it?	11:07
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hendaus	footbeta: i open this http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/patches/00-patch-gnokiirc	11:08
footbeta	hendaus: wait a minute. http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-xgnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm dload them	11:09
hendaus	footbeta: i dload this also: http://www.gnokii.org/download/gnokii/gnokii-0.6.16.tar.bz2	11:09
footbeta	hendaus: they are the latest compiled versions, but in rpm. this is no problem.	11:09
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footbeta	hendaus: install "alien"	11:10
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hendaus	footbeta: i dload the two gnokii url u gave me	11:11
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footbeta	hendaus: cpy those in your home direc and type "sudo alien **.rpm" . two .deb file should generate.	11:12
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footbeta	hendaus: install the .deb.first the gnokii ,then the xgnokii.	11:14
hendaus	footbeta: wait until alien installation done	11:15
hendaus	footbeta: where can i install .deb.first the gnokii then the xgnokii	11:15
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footbeta	hendaus: brb	11:18
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footbeta	hendaus: kubuntu or ubuntu?	11:18
hendaus	footbeta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22629/	11:18
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misolo	n1	11:19
hendaus	footbeta: see the pastebin i gave u, kubuntu	11:19
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footbeta	hendaus: try "sudo alien --scripts **.rpm"	11:22
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Zyklon-B	need help for mkv fi	11:23
Zyklon-B	les	11:23
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footbeta	Zyklon-B: what?	11:24
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footbeta	hendaus: any luck?	11:25
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hendaus	back	11:25
hendaus	footbeta: back	11:25
footbeta	hendaus: any luck?	11:26
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footbeta	hendaus: i just generated two debians.just as i said "sudo alien --scripts **.rpm"	11:28
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hendaus	footbeta: i show u the pastebin url	11:29
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footbeta	hendaus: adding "--scripts" makes the difference. try the new command	11:31
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hendaus	footbeta: adding "--scripts" <-- type this one	11:31
hendaus	but tell me how to install gnokii and xgnokii rpm	11:32
footbeta	hendaus: no,try"sudo alien --scripts **.rpm"	11:32
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footbeta	hendaus:then you will have two .deb file. install them by right clickihg on them and selecting install.	11:34
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hendaus	footbeta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22635/	11:35
hendaus	footbeta: i cant see .deb files	11:35
footbeta	hendaus: just remove the second copy "gnokii-xgnokii-0.6.0-1.i386(2).rpm" from your home folder	11:38
hendaus	footbeta: del it?	11:38
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Ace2016	hendaus: why not just compile it yourself?	11:39
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footbeta	hendaus: yes, cause u have another cpy not having "(2)" suffix	11:39
hendaus	ye sthats right	11:40
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amorphous_	I'm having problems understanding some ssh issues. is it possible for me to have a passkey to ssh from one user and have another user without a passkey (for automated tasks)?	11:41
Ace2016	Source package: gnokii (0.6.13-4ubuntu1) [universe] ????	11:41
Ace2016	isn't it in the repos?	11:41
amorphous_	If so - could someone point me in the right direction please?	11:41
hendaus	footbeta: give me the gnokii url? not xginokii?	11:41
Ace2016	hendaus: google is your griend ;)	11:41
hendaus	Ace2016: how can i see it in the repos?	11:42
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footbeta	hendaus: i gave you both	11:42
illriginal	Can someone help me with my sound?	11:42
hendaus	footbeta: give me them another time please	11:42
illriginal	im tryin to use Alsamixer to adjust the settings but nothing works	11:42
Ace2016	hendaus: it should be in synaptic	11:42
Ace2016	hendaus: i mean adept (synptic is ubuntu	11:42
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footbeta	hendaus: http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-xgnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm	11:43
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illriginal	Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working... it's being recognized but cannot hear any sound!	11:43
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illriginal	Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working... it's being recognized but cannot hear any sound!	11:44
illriginal	#beryl	11:44
Ace2016	hendaus: run sudo apt-get install gnokii in konsole, that should do it	11:44
hendaus	<footbeta> hendaus: wait a minute. http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-xgnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm dload them	11:44
Ace2016	why get rpm files when its in the repos????	11:45
illriginal	Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working... it's being recognized but cannot hear any sound!	11:45
footbeta	Ace2016: s/he did but that was old version that does not support dku-2 cable for 6230	11:46
hendaus	footbeta: ok done another time the two files	11:46
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Ace2016	footbeta: the version in fiesty's repo is 0.6.14-3, seems up to date to me	11:47
illriginal	Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working... it's being recognized but cannot hear any sound!	11:47
hendaus	footbeta: yes now the two files generated	11:47
Ace2016	illriginal: have you got the codecs installed?	11:47
amorphous_	no-one know about ssh?? :(	11:47
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amorphous_	Ho hum...	11:47
illriginal	pretty sure i do...	11:48
illriginal	how would i go about checkin that?	11:48
hendaus	footbeta: ok i install them	11:48
illriginal	i dont get log in nor log out sound, music, video, no beeps from messages etc.	11:48
Ace2016	illriginal: run kmix, see if the sound card is detected and volume settings are correct	11:48
BluesKaj	illriginal, have you opened alsamixer and unmuted the settings , especially IEC958	11:48
footbeta	hendaus: then try it.	11:48
hendaus	footbeta: what shuold i do now	11:48
illriginal	BluesKaj, it's funny you mention that, cuz IEC958 does not exist in the alsamixer list	11:49
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illriginal	and it was VIA DXS.. and I have no clue what that is.	11:49
Ace2016	illriginal: in kmix, that is in the switches tab	11:49
illriginal	Ace2016, i use gnome	11:50
illriginal	ubuntu room is too busy to answer my sound question	11:50
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Ace2016	oh	11:50
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illriginal	it keeps thinkin that my sound card is VIA	11:51
illriginal	when in fact it's SBLive	11:51
BluesKaj	yup illriginal, listen to Ace2016, he knows ..also install gnome-alsa ...it's an easier to use GUI version	11:51
illriginal	alsamixer that is.	11:51
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hendaus	footbeta: i open gnokii, and it opens,but where is the option to open the images from my cell?	11:52
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BluesKaj	illriginal, r-then search on the net for linux drivers for your Soundblaster-live card...they should be available	11:52
ahmed	guys how to install aiglx	11:52
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Ace2016	illriginal: well then u have mplayer, first make sure nothing is using audio, then you can do mplayer -ao help, then get a list of audio outputs, cd to a directory with an audio file (guessing u have an mp3), then do mplayer -ao (one from the list) file.mp3, see if any of them work, that is how i test stuff, alsa is your best guess	11:53
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footbeta	hendaus: i told you before-there is no option to cpy images from mobile.you can just read msg, call etc. try a crd reader for images.	11:54
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clever	what window manager does kde use?	11:54
Ace2016	clever: kwi	11:54
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Ace2016	clever: kwin	11:54
clever	ahh:)	11:54
Ace2016	dman	11:54
Ace2016	missed the n the first time	11:54
clever	lol	11:55
Ace2016	BluesKaj: influx of noobs due to popularity of ubuntu	11:55
hendaus	footbeta: so is there another program for tranfering images?????? i have the cd live but for windows	11:55
clever	was testing with compiz --replace	11:55
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clever	but wanted to know what the 'normal' manager was so i could put it back	11:55
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Ace2016	clever: beryl is nicer for that since you get beryl-manager	11:55
clever	havent installed either on the box yet	11:56
clever	was running compiz thru X11 forwarding:P	11:56
clever	from another box	11:56
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clever	7.04's compiz connecting to a 6.06 X server	11:56
footbeta	Zyklon-B: is matroska a proprietery codec? then probably it's included with w32codecs pack for xine/mplayer.	11:56
clever	mkv isnt a codec but just a muxing format	11:56
clever	and mplayer handles mkv containers easily	11:57
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footbeta	hendaus: i don't know any of. Btw was your phone ditected?	11:58
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hendaus	footbeta: till ow i am waiting	11:59
ahmed	how to know how much free space i got left in ma linux partition ?	11:59
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clever	ahmed: df -h	12:00
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hendaus	footbeta: it doesnot detect :(	12:01
Ace2016	hendaus: did you try the version from the repositories?	12:02
illriginal	Ace	12:02
footbeta	hendaus: maybe you should consider memcard reader it works fine for me and i don't believe this device is so scarce in your country. Maybe u just don't know.	12:02
Ace2016	hendaus: the version you installed was older than the one in the repos	12:02
Ace2016	illriginal: yea?	12:02
illriginal	in my alsamixer, how can i make alsamixer only work with SBLIVE? for some reason it only wants to edit the settings of my onboard sound card	12:02
ahmed	[01:02] <ahmed> i installed ubuntu studio and kde ,, i feel now my ubuntu is slow.. especially with trying to edit a system text file or so	12:03
ahmed	[01:02] <ahmed> it takes a while to laod	12:03
ahmed	[01:02] <ahmed> and some times never opens	12:03
ahmed	help plzz	12:03
Ace2016	illriginal: go into bios and disable it, that the easiest way	12:03
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illriginal	hm... im pretty sure it is... brb	12:04
Ace2016	bye all, i have to go	12:04
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footbeta	hendaus: maybe Ace2016 is right.Or perhaps rpm->deb was a scrap and you just opened the regularly installed one. Or maybe it didn't even install. :(	12:04
hendaus	Ace2016: i am using the latest one	12:05
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hiturunk	Hey, Someone mind helping me with sound troubles? for some reason I'm not getting audio, it's not muted, and I can hear the static..	12:05
hiturunk	Anyone >_>?	12:06
kane_	hey does anyone know what the remote desktop for KDE is?	12:07
hendaus	/query Ace2016 yes i am using version 0.6.14	12:07
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hiturunk	Come ON, No one can help me?	12:08
footbeta	Zyklon-B: possibly you need w32 codecs pack installed.	12:10
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footbeta	Is there anyone from columbia just to say hendaus that mem card readers are available in calumbia just like an ADSL modem.	12:11
hiturunk	My audio was working fine just a few minutes ago.	12:11
hendaus	footbeta: i have adsl modem	12:12
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