[12:16] <aragy> can i make the physical power button start a shutdown immediately instead of showing kde's shutdown dialog?
[12:16] <PhinnFort> aragy: try in /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[12:17] <BenPA> Anyone have a easy simple backup and recovery strategy or program
[12:17] <PhinnFort> aragy: hang on, I'll look a bit into it
[12:17] <PhinnFort> BenPA: Kubuntu should come with Keep installed by default
[12:17] <PhinnFort> !info keep | BenPA
[12:17] <ubotwo> BenPA: keep - backup system for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[12:17] <LjL> !backup | BenPA
[12:17] <ubotwo> BenPA: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:18] <BenPA> thank you
[12:19] <xultz> Hello guys, I am trying to use mplayer and it works well, and I am using a subtitle file wich works well, but I cannot change the size of the letters in the subtitles, I tryed some options on command line and nothing worked, can someone give me a help, please?
[12:20] <PhinnFort> xultz: you could try installing one of the frontends available, such as KPlayer (my recommendation) or KMplayer
[12:20] <dogatemycomputer> xultz: would a gui be okay?  if so then kplayer works really well.
[12:20] <dogatemycomputer> aren't mplayer fonts usually set with one of the OSD options?
[12:20] <PhinnFort> http://kplayer.sourceforge.net/
[12:21] <xultz> let me try kplayer
[12:22] <xultz> that leads me to another little problem: I installed Kubuntu and added the following repository: http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ but when I try to install anything today it gives me a 404 not found
[12:22] <xultz> how do I change to another repository?
[12:22] <PhinnFort> xultz: what exact line did you add?
[12:22] <xultz> for example:
[12:22] <normie> Hello people
[12:22] <xultz> sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[12:23] <makuseru> can someone give me a repo for amarok in feisty?
[12:23] <PhinnFort> xultz: the mirror is no more, as far as I can see
[12:23] <xultz> Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe xine-ui 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2
[12:23] <xultz>   404 Not Found
[12:23] <PhinnFort> makuseru: it should be in the normal repos
[12:23] <PhinnFort> !info amarok
[12:23] <ubotwo> amarok - versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[12:23] <xultz> yes, where do I find another mirror and add it?
[12:23] <PhinnFort> darn that ubotwo
[12:23] <PhinnFort> xultz: I have absolutely no idea what was on that repo
[12:23] <LjL> !!info amarok
[12:23] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.5-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 14853 kB, installed size 33992 kB
[12:24] <PhinnFort> thanks
[12:24] <makuseru> PhinnFort: somthing is wrong to that, it wont work for me
[12:24] <xultz> sorry for such a dumb question, I am used to Mandriva for years and I am trying Kubuntu now
[12:24] <makuseru> wrong with that*
[12:24] <PhinnFort> makuseru: Add/Remove programs, search for Amarok?
[12:24] <PhinnFort> xultz: what do you want from that repository?
[12:24] <makuseru> theres somthing wrong with the normal one for me
[12:24] <makuseru> im looking for another
[12:24] <xultz> I was trying to install xine-ui
[12:24] <xultz> for gxine
[12:25] <PhinnFort> !!find xine-ui
[12:25] <ubotwo> Sorry, searching for packages and files is currently not possible
[12:25] <ubotu> Found: xine-ui
[12:25] <PhinnFort> !!info xine-ui
[12:25] <ubotwo> xine-ui - the xine video player, user interface - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[12:25] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1483 kB, installed size 3532 kB
[12:25] <lucas_> hello, i'm from spain
[12:25] <PhinnFort> xultz: just enable the universe repositories
[12:25] <PhinnFort> !repositories | xultz
[12:25] <ubotwo> xultz: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:25] <dogatemycomputer> how about this repository for amarok:  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[12:25] <xultz> I will look that link, tahnk you a lot
[12:25] <PhinnFort> makuseru: I doubt another repo would help
[12:25] <makuseru> i use feisty
[12:26] <PhinnFort> makuseru: what is the problem with Amarok?
[12:26] <aragy> phinnfort: thx, editing /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh seems to have worked
[12:26] <lucas_> hi laidy
[12:26] <PhinnFort> aragy: :D
[12:27] <Darth_Homey> Hello people
[12:27] <makuseru> well its been fine for a long time, but this morning i open it up and i get 7 popups saying i have no mp3 support, when i always have, so i reinstall ALL my multimedia codecs anyway, and it didnt help, so i reinstall amarok 5 times and still no mp3 support
[12:27] <PhinnFort> !hi | Darth_Homey
[12:27] <ubotwo> Darth_Homey: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:27] <Darth_Homey> How's everyone
[12:28] <PhinnFort> !!info libxine-extracodecs | makuseru
[12:28] <ubotwo> makuseru: libxine-extracodecs - the xine video/media player library, binary files - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[12:28] <ubotu> makuseru: libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[12:28] <makuseru> i have thoes
[12:28] <adydas> whats a good kde based program for setting up harddrives
[12:28] <adydas> i KNOW ive used one before
[12:28] <PhinnFort> qtparted
[12:28] <adydas> i forget what its called tho
[12:28] <adydas> thats it
[12:28] <nahemoth_> I can't activate my network connection!
[12:28] <PhinnFort> makuseru: try mv'ing your amarok settings
[12:29] <makuseru> try what?
[12:29] <adydas> nahemoth_: why not
[12:29] <PhinnFort> makuseru: look under ".kde/share/apps/amarok/"
[12:29] <nahemoth_> ah I don't know
[12:29] <PhinnFort> in your home folder
[12:29] <makuseru> oh, moving it
[12:29] <PhinnFort> makuseru: move that amarok folder to another place
[12:29] <nahemoth_> adydas:  I can connect on internet
[12:29] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:29] <BenPA> !sbackup
[12:29] <BenPA> !info sbackup
[12:29] <ubotwo> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[12:29] <ubotwo> sbackup - Simple Backup Suite for desktop use - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[12:29] <makuseru> why move it?
[12:29] <nahemoth_> adydas:  but can't see the people in LAN
[12:29] <nahemoth_> adydas: I can't use smb4k
[12:29] <adydas> nahemoth_: do you have samba installed?
[12:29] <PhinnFort> makuseru: so you can move it back if you need it
[12:29] <nahemoth_> adydas: it finds nothing
[12:29] <makuseru> huh/
[12:29] <nahemoth_> adydas:  yea
[12:29] <PhinnFort> does samba support ipv6 properly?
[12:30] <PhinnFort> nahemoth_: go to "smb:/" in konqueror
[12:30] <makuseru> i mean why would moving it help the mp3 stuff?
[12:30] <PhinnFort> do you find anything?
[12:30] <PhinnFort> makuseru: you shouldn't have mp3's there
[12:30] <PhinnFort> makuseru: only config files
[12:30] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort: It's working
[12:30] <makuseru> PhinnFort: i mean why would me moving that folder help the mp3 support?
[12:31] <PhinnFort> makuseru: it would help amarok try to redetect everything
[12:31] <makuseru> oh
[12:31] <makuseru> ok
[12:31] <PhinnFort> makuseru: it seems it's stuck in a bad state, which it has saved
[12:31] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort:  but I get an error message like "could not connect to host"
[12:31] <makuseru> can i just delete it?
[12:32] <PhinnFort> makuseru: if you don't have a valuable database there with ratings and scripts et al
[12:32] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:32] <makuseru> nah
[12:32] <PhinnFort> then go ahead
[12:32] <makuseru> just album covers, but itll get them back
[12:32] <PhinnFort> <3 amarok;)
[12:32] <makuseru> i do too
[12:32] <makuseru> i want it back
[12:32] <makuseru> ok, so now i deleted it, just try to open it up again?
[12:33] <PhinnFort> makuseru: yeah
[12:33] <PhinnFort> makuseru: did you close amarok before you deleted them?
[12:33] <PhinnFort> makuseru: amarok writes them when it closes, afaik
[12:33] <makuseru> yup
[12:33] <PhinnFort> good
[12:33] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:33] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort:  but I get an error message like "could not connect to host"
[12:33] <PhinnFort> nahemoth_: is it a Vista machine that you're trying to connect to?
[12:34] <PhinnFort> I know there was some compatibility issues with Vista and Samba, and I'm not sure if they're resolved
[12:34] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort: no
[12:34] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort: xp
[12:34] <PhinnFort> hmm
[12:34] <PhinnFort> nahemoth_: can you connect to it from another windows/linux pc?
[12:34] <makuseru> PhinnFort: nope, still messed up
[12:34] <PhinnFort> makuseru: and you're sure you cleaned out everything?
[12:35] <PhinnFort> makuseru: can you try running amarok from a console, and paste the output?
[12:35] <makuseru> yes, just a second
[12:35] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort:  yes, just before this one I was using Pardus (a Turkish linux distro) and I was able to connect to other computers
[12:35] <pricechild> Hey there. I'm using xchat2 on kubuntu and for some reason the channels never change colours for new messages etc. This is reproducable for me off of a live cd. Does anyone else know of this behaviour?
[12:35] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort:  but I couldn't do it this time
[12:36] <makuseru> PhinnFort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22497/
[12:36] <PhinnFort> nahemoth_: you don't have a firewall running?
[12:36] <Darth_Homey> what;s up Automatrix
[12:37] <PhinnFort> makuseru: it shouldn't even warn you about mp3 support if you have an empty library
[12:37] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort:  I don't know, It's been only 2 hours I set up Kubuntu, is there a default firewall
[12:37] <PhinnFort> nahemoth_: I don't think so
[12:37] <AutoMatriX> Darth_Homey: nothing, at least yet, but that doesn't prevent me to say hello :p
[12:38] <PhinnFort> nahemoth_: can you connect in Konqueror?
[12:38] <makuseru> PhinnFort: i dont have an empty library, it still had all my stuff in it and when i tried to import it it says it cant
[12:38] <nahemoth_> yea
[12:38] <Darth_Homey> Automatrix: your right dude :-)
[12:38] <PhinnFort> makuseru: but didn't you delete the config dir?
[12:38] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort:  yes
[12:38] <PhinnFort> nahemoth_: I'll install smb4k and have a look around, mkay?
[12:38] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort:  I have n problem about internet
[12:39] <AutoMatriX> :D
[12:39] <makuseru> PhinnFort: yes
[12:39] <sonoman> he
[12:40] <Darth_Homey> anyone uses the YaKuake terminal?
[12:40] <PhinnFort> makuseru: try this "killall amarokapp -s KILL && rm ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/"
[12:40] <PhinnFort> Darth_Homey: me
[12:41] <Darth_Homey> PhinnFort: cool isn't it. i installed it today
[12:41] <PhinnFort> Darth_Homey: It's what I would call a "killer app";)
[12:41] <PhinnFort> with a big K
[12:41] <makuseru> PhinnFort: rm: cannot remove `/home/max/.kde/share/apps/amarok/': Is a directory
[12:41] <PhinnFort> makuseru: "killall amarokapp -s KILL && rm -fdr ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/"
[12:41] <PhinnFort> sorry, forgot it was a dir;)
[12:42] <Darth_Homey> althought there isn't a lot of docs for it out there
[12:42] <makuseru> PhinnFort: ok, now what?
[12:42] <PhinnFort> Darth_Homey: why do you need docs for such an app;)
[12:42] <PhinnFort> ?
[12:42] <PhinnFort> makuseru: run amarok again, don't add any dir to the collection
[12:42] <makuseru> ok
[12:42] <PhinnFort> *dirs
[12:43] <nahemoth_> PhinnFort:  and my "Knetwork Manager" shows that it's disconnected
[12:43] <Darth_Homey> PhinnFort: well i was wondering if there are any shortcuts for switching tabs
[12:43] <PhinnFort> Darth_Homey: shift left/right
[12:43] <makuseru> PhinnFort: my libary isnt there, but it still said it had no support
[12:43] <PhinnFort> Darth_Homey: and you can set it up, press the little downwards arrow to get the standard KDE settings menu
[12:43] <PhinnFort> nahemoth_: have you looked under the settings in smb4k?
[12:44] <PhinnFort> makuseru: what happens if you just close those messages?
[12:44] <chx> Sometimes my keyboard just stops working. If I restart X , it works. This happens with PS/2 and USB and not specific to the keyboard. So I suspect some X bug or xorg.conf misconfigure. I run Kubuntu Feisty.
[12:44] <makuseru> PhinnFort: well im jsut getting one error now
[12:44] <PhinnFort> makuseru: close amarok, and run this thing then: "killall amarokapp -s KILL && rm ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/ && rm ~/.kde/share/config/amarok*"
[12:44] <makuseru> it wont play mp3s
[12:45] <Darth_Homey> PhinnFort: cool thanks, i was pressing al sorts of shortcuts, but this one seems to make sense :-)
[12:45] <PhinnFort> makuseru: then start amarok, don't add anything, but go to settings and look at what engine is selected
[12:45] <makuseru> rm: cannot remove `/home/max/.kde/share/apps/amarok/': Is a directory
[12:45] <PhinnFort> chx: file a bug
[12:45] <PhinnFort> makuseru: obviously mean: "killall amarokapp -s KILL && rm -fdr ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/ && rm ~/.kde/share/config/amarok*"
[12:46] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:46] <chx> PhinnFort: so this is something not known?
[12:46] <makuseru> lol
[12:46] <PhinnFort> chx: well, it would've been fixed then, don't you think?;)
[12:46] <chx> PhinnFort: During my two years with Ubuntu there have been at least half a dozen bugs which were only fixed 'later'
[12:47] <makuseru> PhinnFort: xine
[12:47] <PhinnFort> makuseru: what settings?
[12:47] <beryl> cannot use alphabetic keys on alternate kubuntu installa in text mode
[12:47] <PhinnFort> makuseru: default and stuff?
[12:47] <PhinnFort> makuseru: do a "dpkg -l | grep xine" and paste the output, ok?
[12:48] <makuseru> alright
[12:48] <PhinnFort> I think maybe you have some conflicting codecs/libraries
[12:48] <makuseru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22498/
[12:49] <PhinnFort> danke
[12:50] <PhinnFort> this is just weird...
[12:51] <PhinnFort> makuseru: can you try to play an mp3 file in Kaffeine?
[12:51] <PhinnFort> makuseru: also, maybe you could try to use the medibuntu repository;=
[12:51] <PhinnFort> we're back where I started;)
[12:52] <PhinnFort> makuseru: medibuntu has their own patched amarok and xine
[12:52] <makuseru> whats the repo?
[12:52] <PhinnFort> one sec
[12:52] <PhinnFort> run "sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[12:52] <PhinnFort> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[12:52] <PhinnFort> and "sudo apt-get update"
[12:52] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:54] <makuseru> ewwww
[12:54] <makuseru> ballmer
[12:54] <PhinnFort> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Fester
[12:54] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:54] <Minataku> Yeah, but Fester kicked ass
[12:54] <Minataku> Ballmer just licks ass
[12:54] <PhinnFort> and throws chairs
[12:54] <PhinnFort> I would say that is a bit kick ass
[12:54] <Minataku> Not really
[12:55] <Minataku> Doesn't take anyone special to throw a chair
[12:55] <PhinnFort> Minataku: he has a certain groove to it, that noone can replicate
[12:55] <Minataku> Now, it would have kicked ass if he threw the chair out the window then followed it
[12:55] <jmichaelx> bobby knight?
[12:55] <PhinnFort> Minataku: :P
[12:55] <PhinnFort> broken window
[12:56] <Etokura> How do I get kxdocker to run outside of a window?
[12:56] <beryl> cannot use alphabetic keys on alternate kubuntu install in text mode,letter keys wont work,so what to do?Download live image, nice job.
[12:56] <Minataku> Of an office on a high floor of Microsoft HQ
[12:56] <Etokura> I mean, it's running inside of a window now
[12:56] <Etokura> A window labeled "QT Sub-application"
[12:56] <PhinnFort> Etokura: stop using beryl
[12:56] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:57] <Minataku> Well, maybe he shouldn't DIE, nobody should have to die
[12:57] <Etokura> Then it's not transparent
[12:57] <Minataku> But it definitely would have kicked ass if it hit something, bounced back and smacked him in the face
[12:57] <PhinnFort> Etokura: you should be able to tell beryl to not draw a window around it, but that's for #ubuntu-effects or something
[12:57] <jmichaelx> maybe this is OT, but what is the best method/program to use in ripping a DVD to a harddrive? I am using k9 copy right now, and it has been working on the same DVD for several hours..... surely there is a better way.
[12:58] <PhinnFort> Minataku: how about sneaking in and replacing all normal, lightweight (I doubt he has much muscle mass) chairs with rubber chairs
[12:58] <PhinnFort> jmichaelx: look on kde-apps.org, there's to many to count;)
[12:58] <Minataku> PhinnFort: I'd be putting tacks on his chair and poop in his desk drawers
[12:58] <PhinnFort> fake poop, I hope
[12:58] <jmichaelx> PhinnFort: do you have a method that you prefer?
[12:59] <Minataku> PhinnFort: No way
[12:59] <PhinnFort> jmichaelx: transcode
[12:59] <Minataku> Ballmer deserves the real thing
[12:59] <Minataku> Maybe even fresh from the mill
[12:59] <PhinnFort> jmichaelx: or use "dvd:/" or something similar in Konqueror
[12:59] <PhinnFort> jmichaelx: or K3B
[12:59] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:59] <PhinnFort> Minataku: ;)
[12:59] <jmichaelx> doesn't k3b just do .iso rips?
[12:59] <PhinnFort> jmichaelx: nope
[12:59] <jmichaelx> i will look up transcode
[12:59] <PhinnFort> jmichaelx: the newest version does "real" ripping;)
[01:00] <jmichaelx> ahh
[01:00] <jmichaelx> ok, i will have to look at it again
[01:00] <PhinnFort> jmichaelx: I believe K3B uses transcode for the hard work itself
[01:00] <jmichaelx> so ripping with k3b and transcode might get the job done in less that5 hours?
[01:00] <jmichaelx> that would be awesome
[01:01] <PhinnFort> jmichaelx: I would think so;)
[01:01] <jmichaelx> lol, ty
[01:01] <PhinnFort> depends on your hardware though
[01:01] <jmichaelx> the hardware should be alright for this
[01:02] <PhinnFort> jmichaelx: also, be conservative with the settings
[01:02] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:04] <cox377> does anyone here use gftp via command line?
[01:05] <PhinnFort> I use ncftp
[01:05] <PhinnFort> best ftp client on the planet
[01:05] <PhinnFort> !!info ncftp
[01:05] <ubotu> ncftp: A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.0-1 (feisty), package size 483 kB, installed size 1092 kB
[01:05] <ubotwo> ncftp - A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[01:05] <cox377> PhinnFort: for command like?
[01:05] <cox377> line?
[01:05] <PhinnFort> yeah
[01:05] <SilentDis> hello :)
[01:05] <satanko> holas
[01:05] <PhinnFort> !es | satanko
[01:05] <ubotwo> satanko: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:06] <satanko> no busco ayuda :(
[01:06] <cox377> PhinnFort: are the commands simple enough?
[01:06] <PhinnFort> cox377: very simple, and it's just overall very nice
[01:07] <LordDiabolus> scp!  (keep it secure) :)
[01:07] <PhinnFort> auto-completion, bookmarks, anything you can think of;)
[01:07] <SilentDis> aargh, please help me remember... I've got an NTFS formatted disk at /dev/sda1, i'd like to image it for archival purposes.  I know I'll probably be using dd to do this... just can't remember the command format lol
[01:07] <PhinnFort> i think ncftp supports sftp too
[01:07] <LordDiabolus> ahhh, cool
[01:07] <PhinnFort> SilentDis: mkfs?
[01:07] <PhinnFort> or cfdisk?
[01:07] <xGrantx> is there another way to autostart a program besides putting it in the KDE autostart folder?
[01:08] <SilentDis> PhinnFort: yes, i'll be reformatting the disk once i'm done, but I'd like to image it's contents first.  i figured the easiest way is to create a disk image, then copy the files back over.
[01:08] <PhinnFort> xGrantx: you can choose to have KDE remember which apps are open with which documents when you close
[01:08] <PhinnFort> SilentDis: sounds ok
[01:08] <xGrantx> well one of my programs is starting twice for some reason
[01:08] <PhinnFort> SilentDis: but I would rather backup into a tar file
[01:08] <xGrantx> I don't know how to fix it
[01:08] <SilentDis> PhinnFort: ahh, that'll work too :)
[01:08] <PhinnFort> xGrantx: it could also be launched by kded
[01:09] <PhinnFort> xGrantx: check in the settings of the programs if you can set it to start automatically or not
[01:09] <PhinnFort> SilentDis: that way you can easily pack out the files on the new volume
[01:09] <xGrantx> I asked the creators of the program and they said it doesn't autostart automatically
[01:10] <PhinnFort> xGrantx: it could be patched by Kubuntu maintainers
[01:10] <SilentDis> PhinnFort: yeah, that's easier.  i keep getting 'stuck' in 'one way' of doing things, when there's just so many, much more easy, ways to do things.  thanks :)
[01:10] <xGrantx> how do I check if "kded" is starting it?
[01:10] <PhinnFort> xGrantx: which app is it?
[01:10] <osiris> could you just start the app with your x session ?
[01:10] <xGrantx> kiba-dock
[01:10] <PhinnFort> SilentDis: ;)
[01:10] <osiris> nvm
[01:10] <PhinnFort> xGrantx: try asking in #kde
[01:10] <cox377> PhinnFort: do you know what the command is to upload a whole directory?
[01:10] <xGrantx> ok
[01:10] <PhinnFort> cox377: put -R I believe
[01:11] <PhinnFort> cox377: -R for recursive
[01:11] <cox377> put -R /xxx/xxx/xx
[01:11] <osiris> or just scp the whole dir
[01:11] <PhinnFort> scp is for whinnies
[01:11] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:11] <SilentDis> another dumb (at least for me) question... what's the command to check disk space from the term?
[01:11] <cox377> I'm doing this over ssh into the host machine, then from the host machines ftp'ing stuff to another machine
[01:11] <PhinnFort> SilentDis: df -h
[01:11] <SilentDis> PhinnFort: ty :)
[01:11] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:11] <PhinnFort> yw
[01:12] <cox377> PhinnFort: lol that's one i could answer.. about the only one
[01:12] <cox377> haha
[01:12] <cox377> ;)
[01:12] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:13] <cox377> PhinnFort: damn this is gonna take a long time, looked like your command was correct but it's 100gig of stuff only running @ 4mb/s
[01:13] <PhinnFort> heh
[01:13] <cox377> lol
[01:13] <PhinnFort> is it stable?
[01:13] <null> anyone here have experience with XBOXHDM?
[01:13] <cox377> PhinnFort: when you say stable??
[01:13] <PhinnFort> the line
[01:14] <PhinnFort> I don't think ncftp supports resuming of uploads
[01:14] <cox377> PhinnFort: it's over LAN, hopefully it will be alright
[01:14] <PhinnFort> ah, then it will propably be okay
[01:14] <SilentDis> 96g of data being copied over a USB2 interface, this'll take a while.  ty for the help all, take care!
[01:15] <PhinnFort> yw
[01:15] <cox377> PhinnFort: right gotta hit the sack
[01:15] <cox377> PhinnFort: night all
[01:15] <PhinnFort> gnight
[01:16] <defcon_> any good site for ubuntu beta .deb's
[01:17] <defcon_> betanews for ubuntu?
[01:19] <Zeelot> helloooo
[01:19] <LordDiabolus> hey
[01:19] <LordDiabolus> defcon: you could always run gutsy :)
[01:19] <defcon_> LordDiabolus, whats the difference
[01:20] <defcon_> LordDiabolus, can I upgrade without reinstalling the os?
[01:20] <Zeelot> is there anything I can use that is more efficient at mounting network drives than sshfs? when playing video files over the network I notice alot of lag
[01:20] <LordDiabolus> defcon: you can, but be warned it will be VERY unstable since everything will be beta.
[01:21] <defcon_> what is the best way to check if your box has been compromised
[01:22] <LordDiabolus> defcon: I'm a command-line junkie, but I usually will "sudo tail /var/log/syslog" and "sudo tail /var/log/messages"
[01:22] <PF-Away> chkrootkit
[01:23] <LordDiabolus> that's good too, also check /tmp for any weird scripts, I've even seen them named as jpg before
[01:25] <PF-Away> I usually clean out my /tmp every now and then
[01:26] <Zeelot> anyone? I would really like it if it was possible without sending the file everytime as this is the storage server
[01:29] <kane_> Zeelot: just mount it via samba or nfs
[01:29] <LordDiabolus> any knetworkmanager experts here?
[01:30] <kane_> depending on what the mount is exactly.
[01:30] <kane_> they are internal network drives right?
[01:32] <intelikey> did you know, # can't be used as a command (alias or function)  ?
[01:32] <Zeelot> internal yea
[01:32] <Zeelot> I need the most efficient
[01:33] <kane_> Zeelot: what kind of filesystem is it?
[01:34] <kane_> ext3 or like an ntfs drive?
[01:34] <Zeelot> both are kubuntu systems ext3 partitions
[01:34] <kane_> mount it with nfs then.
[01:34] <Zeelot> and with that I can play videos without downloading?
[01:34] <kane_> right.
[01:34] <pastor> Unbelievable. I have been trying for a week to get my wireless to work, and today, i bought a cheap USB wireless device from Staples and "WAM" I'm online with no drivers.
[01:34] <kane_> you just mount it in like /media/whatever
[01:34] <Zeelot> alright I'll try that thanks
[01:34] <kane_> and you play it like its a local file.
[01:35] <kane_> i mean they get downloaded eventually ofcourse, you know the bits have to go down the pipe to your screen in someway.
[01:35] <kane_> but its transperent to you that its happening and its not like it saves the file somewhere.
[01:36] <Zeelot> right with ssh you have to download before playing it unless you use sshfs but that wasn't fast enough aparently to play them smoothly
[01:36] <kane_> ah, no none of that noise.
[01:38] <keh7d> is there a channel specifically for networking probs?
[01:41] <tgc0d3r> I am having trouble getting correct sound in my 5.1 speakers in Kubuntu Feisty. If I play a cd, for example, it will just be in the center speaker and you can faintly hear the music under very heavy static. Any info?
[01:41] <BluesKaj> !network
[01:41] <ubotwo> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:42] <tgc0d3r> it is a clean install so I haven't borked anything yet
[01:42] <BluesKaj> tgc0d3r, which player are you using ?
[01:42] <CraZy675> I'm setting up a backup shell script to prep for disaster recovery.  First thing I want to back up in my amarok SQLite database, where do I find that?
[01:42] <tgc0d3r> well, I tried kaffeine to play the cd, but I also used that speaker-test command line app
[01:43] <BluesKaj> tgc0d3r, have you checked your levels and unmutes in alsamixer ?
[01:44] <intelikey> i correct my self.   # can indeed be a command   but it has to be a file.
[01:45] <CraZy675> everything is in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok right?
[01:46] <tgc0d3r> yeah, I've tried unmuting everything, muting everything. The only thing that is needed to make any sound is the Audigy digital checked. beyond that I have no control except for the volume. but the volume is weird. using the master, the lower the volume is on screen, the louder in the speaker and vice versa. mega strange.
[01:48] <BluesKaj> tgc0d3r, whoa...that's strange for sure ...ok systemsettings is set up for alsa in the sound module ?
[01:50] <felzix> grr amarok.  when I press skip song quickly, it attempts to loop forever.  I generally have to hardboot to solve this
[01:50] <CraZy675> felzix: you can't just use the sudo kill command?
[01:51] <felzix> I can't open up any new terminals
[01:51] <CraZy675> ah
[01:51] <intelikey> another do nothing, if anyone wants to play with it... http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36880
[01:51] <felzix> the ones already open weren't accepting input, either
[01:52] <felzix> I suppose that I could have just done control+alt+f1 and tried to kill it that way, though
[01:52] <Zeelot> thanks kane_ ^_^ 1080p videos seem to be playing perfectly
[01:53] <jmichaelx> hmmm k3b has been sitting at 27% on this DVD rip for over half an hour.....
[01:54] <intelikey> sounds like a problem
[01:56] <tgc0d3r> BluesKaj: yep
[01:56] <CraZy675> how do I import my sqlite db to mysql for amarok?
[01:56] <CraZy675> oh nm google knows
[01:58] <intelikey> how to test if a name has space in it ?
[01:58] <intelikey> will  grep ' '   work ?
[02:01] <Zeelot> nm kane_ ...it actually lags badly every few minutes instead of lagging just a little bit but continually
[02:02] <Zeelot> I think I will invent in a gigabit switch for watching HD videos remotely, although 100mbit should still be plenty
[02:02] <Zeelot> invest*
[02:05] <JohnFlux_> !nvidia
[02:05] <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:07] <KevinAlaska> if a file starts with ._ does that mean its been deleted?
[02:07] <wolferine> grep '* *'
[02:07] <wolferine> maybe?
[02:09] <KevinAlaska> I have some photos listed in my F-Stop program that start with ._IMG345.JPG for example but when you browse the directory with KDE they don't show.  but if I do a ls in shell they dont show up but if I do a find command they show.
[02:16] <kilrae_> KevinAlaska: files that start with . are "hidden" files
[02:17] <kilrae_> KevinAlaska: they won't show up with ls or in a file browser by default, try 'ls -a' instead
[02:24] <mardi> can i just install grub with the live cd?
[02:24] <mardi> feisty
[02:26] <Loco_Man> can anyone help me with networking in kubuntu?... it's not saving the settings...
[02:29] <soulrider> !grub | mardi
[02:29] <ubotwo> mardi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:30] <mardi> thanks soulrider
[02:44] <s330d3r> hi, having an issue with connecting a usb drive to my laptop
[02:44] <Minataku> s330d3r: Take the little cap off of it first
[02:44] <s330d3r> Minataku: LOL
[02:44] <Minataku> Heehee
[02:45] <s330d3r> it is a hard drive, usb connector for my laptop
[02:45] <Minataku> What's up with it?
[02:46] <DarkED> hey guys, to get a list of how much space i have on each partition i do fdisk -l right?
[02:46] <s330d3r> it is formatted ntfs, and when i connect it, it does not map to anything, unlike my other usb pendrives with fat...
[02:46] <Minataku> DarkED: df -h
[02:46] <DarkED> Minataku: ahh thanks
[02:46] <Minataku> DarkED: np
[02:46] <Minataku> s330d3r: Eeep, NTFS
[02:47] <s330d3r> lol
[02:49] <Minataku> !ntfs
[02:49] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:49] <Minataku> There ya go
[02:49] <Minataku> Took me a few to think of an answer before I remembered the bot has one
[03:00] <Kr4t05> How well do Creative sound cards work with Linux?
[03:00] <kdepepo> I never got hibernate to work in linux... 3 machines, trying since it was advertised...
[03:00] <kdepepo> maybe nvidia card is the problem...
[03:05] <Minataku> I've gotten it to work on Solaris... granted I was also running it on an Ultra 2
[03:07] <makuseru> how can i uninstall amarok to where its like i never had it installed in the first place? i thought a purge did that but then when i reinstalled it still had all my prefrences
[03:08] <s330d3r> Minataku: thanks, looked at that help page, but not quite clear how I set it up to dynamically mount NTFS drives when they are attached via usb
[03:09] <Minataku> Heh, sorry, no idea there
[03:10] <s330d3r> it must be possible, I can dynamically mount a fat fs device
[03:18] <sergiu> how to set for kubuntu start-up program?
[03:20] <Jucato> !autostar
[03:20] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:20] <Jucato> !autostart
[03:20] <ubotwo> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:21] <Jucato> sergiu: ^^^^
[03:21] <sergiu> thanks
[03:30] <zenekk> im naker
[03:30] <zenekk> d
[03:39] <Zeelot> hellooo
[03:39] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with amarok, it says i dont have mp3 support, when i do..everything else plays mp3s, ive reinstalled amaokr nearly 9 times, but evertime i start it up it says i have no mp3 support, i have all my codecs and everything i dont know why its doing this, anyone know how to fix this?
[03:39] <Zeelot> is it possible to connect to a windows remote desktop from linux?
[03:40] <Zeelot> makuseru: you dont have to reinstall anything, you have to configure it
[03:41] <makuseru> huh?
[03:41] <Zeelot> try going to Settings -> Configure Amarok
[03:41] <makuseru> and configure what?
[03:41] <Zeelot> then go to Engine and select ALSA, that would be the first thing I try
[03:41] <Jucato> makuseru: "everything else plays mp3s" what is everything else?
[03:42] <makuseru> all i have for engines is xine
[03:42] <Zeelot> Output Plugin
[03:42] <makuseru> Jucato: VLC. Kaffine, FF. etc
[03:42] <Jucato> hm... VLC will play mp3's regardless if you have installed the codecs for xine....
[03:42] <Jucato> not sure why amarok isn't playing though. can you check if amarok is using the correct engine?
[03:42] <makuseru> well Kaffine, Totem, etc
[03:42] <makuseru> amarok has been fine
[03:43] <makuseru> untill this morning
[03:43] <makuseru> it just stated spitting errors at me
[03:43] <Jucato> Totem doesn't use xine...
[03:43] <Zeelot> what errors?
[03:43] <Jucato> and is Kaffeine set to use xine?
[03:44] <makuseru> it says "no mp3 support" and then when i try to populate the playlist it says "some media could not be loaded (not playable)"
[03:44] <makuseru> Jucato: lemme check
[03:44] <Jucato> makuseru: double check if "libxine-extracodecs" or libxine1-ffmpeg (feisty) is installed
[03:45] <makuseru> yes
[03:45] <makuseru> they are all installed
[03:45] <makuseru> ive reinstalled all multimedia codecs i have
[03:45] <makuseru> this has to just be a amarok problem
[03:45] <DrX> can anyone help me get Thunderbird working with (ahem) Exchange (it says "Connection to server <server.domain.com> timed out)?
[03:46] <EightiesK> !Xserver
[03:46] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:46] <makuseru> well
[03:46] <EightiesK> !xserver
[03:46] <makuseru> i retract my statement
[03:46] <makuseru> it now wont play mp3's
[03:46] <makuseru> and i get this error
[03:46] <makuseru>  xine: couldn't find demux
[03:47] <EightiesK> ne1 know how i reconfigure my graphic card?
[03:47] <EightiesK> i think its apt-get -r xserver-org
[03:47] <Zeelot> EightiesK: ati or nvidia?
[03:47] <EightiesK> neither
[03:48] <EightiesK> its in my toshibia laptop
[03:48] <Zeelot> so what is it?
[03:48] <EightiesK> i had to do the same for my dell laptop.
[03:48] <EightiesK> intel
[03:48] <EightiesK> it won't config right
[03:48] <EightiesK> i need to use a vesa driver...
[03:49] <EightiesK> !vesa
[03:49] <ubotwo> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[03:49] <EightiesK> !x
[03:49] <ubotwo> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:49] <EightiesK> nm that fixes it
[03:49] <Jucato> !xconfig
[03:49] <ubotwo> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[03:49] <makuseru> Jucato: any ideas?
[03:49] <Jucato> makuseru: hm.. no.. sorry :(
[03:50] <makuseru> what other codecs do mp3s?
[03:51] <Jucato> for xine? none
[03:52] <makuseru> could i use a diffrent engine that xine?
[03:52] <Jucato> for amarok? no
[03:52] <Jucato> you could try asking in #amarok
[03:53] <Zeelot> they should be able to fix the problem...I use XMMS myself, I dont like how amarok lists the collection
[03:54] <Jucato> hard to fix problems/bugs that are irreproducible :/
[03:54] <Zeelot> so does anyone know how I can connect to windows Remote Desktop from linux? is it even possible?
[03:55] <Zeelot> I'm sure someone in the amarok channel knows more about the application than us
[03:55] <Jucato> the problem is whether they're awake or in :)
[03:56] <Zeelot> yea might take a while then =P I've been in the kaffeine channel for about a week for a question lol I never catch them while they're online
[04:11] <carutsu> hello, I've just bought a laptop a Centrino Duo, what architecture should i pick?
[04:12] <kdepepo> intel
[04:12] <j1tters> hey all. anyone available to help me with a really stupid question?
[04:12] <carutsu> kdepepo: isnt it a X86_64?
[04:12] <kdepepo> yes
[04:13] <carutsu> kdepepo: so no 64 bits for that?
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> carutsu: use the 32-bit version unless you have 4gb of ram
[04:13] <j1tters> microsoft 4 button usb optical mouse.  i need to make it work. used the the left hand thumb click button as the back button on my firefox? any ideas.
[04:13] <j1tters> i know its dumb.
[04:14] <carutsu> Daisuke_Ido: no i don't have 4GB, i though there were optimized compilations for 64bits but ok
[04:14] <j1tters> and i have a second even dumber question then.
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> carutsu: there are some things that still don't play nice with 64 bit
[04:15] <j1tters> flash.....
[04:15] <Zeelot> gordon?
[04:16] <j1tters> hardly funny. thanks zeelot. hehe
[04:16] <Zeelot> no prob
[04:16] <carutsu> Daisuke_Ido: ok, although i'll be wasting half my cpu power
[04:16] <j1tters> glad to see humor is still alive and well on irc. :)
[04:16] <Zeelot> !>_<!
[04:17] <j1tters> so can anyone help?
[04:17] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll be wasting what?
[04:17] <kdepepo> 64 bit programs actually may be slower than 32 bit ones, because many data structures are just twice as big without a need.
[04:17] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll be wasting register space
[04:17] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's it
[04:18] <carutsu> Daisuke_Ido, kdepepo: i see... it's not what i though... should've asked before buying, oh well
[04:19] <kdepepo> carutsu, core duo is still better... it has two cores :)
[04:19] <Zeelot> all cpus are 64bit now so you couldn't have made a better choice
[04:19] <carutsu> Zeelot: thenks
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> carutsu: it's just a matter of software catching up to the technology
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> you're prepared for the future, sort of :D
[04:19] <carutsu> kdepepo: hehe, ok, I'll optimize boot time, i've heard of that
[04:20] <carutsu> Daisuke_Ido: xD the change will come sooner or later just like 32 bits came
[04:20] <kdepepo> carutsu, well... boot time not really, because hard disks are slow. But anything which makes use of multiple cores, such as "make -j 4" will work faster :)
[04:21] <carutsu> kdepepo: I've heard i can activate paralel boot, mmm, i dont remember how it was called, but has something like that
[04:21] <carutsu> concurrency boot, something like that
[04:22] <kdepepo> carutsu, ah you mean the new init
[04:22] <kdepepo> yes, that may be faster
[04:22] <carutsu> kdepepo: er im not sure, you tell me, xDDD
[04:22] <Zeelot> lol
[04:22] <Zeelot> it's faster.
[04:22] <Zeelot> Don't worry about it =P
[04:23] <carutsu> that's good although Feisty is the fastest distro I've used (not too mny anyway) Windows still boots faster
[04:23] <Zeelot> well depends what is booting I guess
[04:24] <kdepepo> Its a common problem... people tend to love slow software. OpenOffice boots like a dog.
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> windows appears to boot faster because your desktop's up and sort of available before everything's loaded
[04:24] <carutsu> kdepepo: if and only if you dont change the memory assigned to it
[04:24] <carutsu> kdepepo: i changed it and wow, it's just a breeze
[04:25] <Zeelot> in linux or windows?
[04:25] <carutsu> Daisuke_Ido: well yes that's right and you need to deal with a slow and quisrky pc untill it finish loading
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's possible to stramline the linux boot...  but since i rarely reboot (only when i have no choice), it doesn't bother me
[04:25] <carutsu> Zeelot: in linux
[04:25] <makuseru> !xine
[04:25] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[04:25] <Zeelot> aha
[04:26] <carutsu> Zeelot: I haven't used windows in a while
[04:26] <Zeelot> carutsu: how did you do that =P
[04:26] <carutsu> Daisuke_Ido: well i do reboot, this is a laptop
[04:26] <Daisuke_Ido> carutsu: point taken :)
[04:26] <carutsu> Zeelot, mmm, wait
[04:26] <Zambezi> I found a bug in ktorrent that made it crash. Which is the best way to report it?
[04:26] <Daisuke_Ido> hibernation not working properly?
[04:26] <kdepepo> you could use hibernate, but I dont know if it yet works with linux.
[04:27] <Zeelot> I never use that for some reason heh
[04:27] <carutsu> Daisuke_Ido: well no sometimes the pad or the keyboard cant be used after hibernation
[04:27] <kdepepo> Zambezi, ktorrent 2.1.4 ?
[04:27] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh :\
[04:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't use a laptop very often
[04:28] <carutsu> Zeelot: sorry the article is in spanish, but i'll tell you what i did
[04:28] <Zeelot> my laptop boots in a minute or two I really dont mind waiting
[04:28] <carutsu> Zeelot: mine in a minute at most
[04:28] <Zeelot> yea about that
[04:29] <carutsu> ok, go to Tools>Options>Workspace memory (or work memory is in spanish not sure)
[04:29] <Zambezi> kdepepo, I have to check.
[04:29] <Zeelot> in open office yes?
[04:29] <carutsu> Zeelot: yes
[04:29] <Zeelot> opening it 1 sec heh
[04:29] <victor__> qquit
[04:29] <carutsu> You can cache it, actually it gets like 4 MB change it i assigned it 64MB and 10MB per objet
[04:29] <Zambezi> kdepepo, 2.1.4 yes.
[04:30] <carutsu> Zeelot: and is quite nice now
[04:30] <Zeelot> I dont have Workspace
[04:30] <kdepepo> Zambezi, http://bugs.kde.org
[04:30] <carutsu> mmm, memory?
[04:30] <Zeelot> on the left in Options it's not there
[04:30] <Zeelot> memory yes
[04:30] <carutsu> wait
[04:30] <carutsu> there
[04:31] <osiris> Zambezi, what makes itt crash
[04:31] <carutsu> there you can pick how many steps to undo and that kind of thing
[04:31] <carutsu> thing
[04:31] <carutsu> XD well you got it
[04:31] <Zeelot> so I want to undo less to make it perform better right? =P
[04:32] <Zeelot> who ever undos 100 steps >_<
[04:32] <carutsu> Zeelot: well it should use less memory
[04:32] <carutsu> Zeelot: i didnt change that thogh
[04:32] <CraZy675> I'm running the live cd and trying to configure the display before I install, but I find the system settings confusing
[04:32] <CraZy675> my monitor should run at 1680x1050
[04:32] <Zeelot> alright thanks carutsu
[04:32] <Zambezi> osiris, I'll tell you after the report. :-P
[04:32] <CraZy675> but its running 1024x768
[04:33] <carutsu> Zeelot: no problem, it should feels faster in a couple of boots
[04:33] <Zeelot> alright
[04:33] <Zeelot> and I can read spanish btw =P but it would have taken me a bit to understand
[04:33] <osiris> Zambezi, brb.  rebooting
[04:33] <CraZy675> my monitor is not listed under brands so I clicked on generic lcd 1680x1050
[04:34] <Zeelot> isn't it simpler to install the OS first and then install video drivers and configure monitor together?
[04:35] <CraZy675> Zeelot: I'm not sure for 6.10 everything was just recognized and worked
[04:35] <Zeelot> I don't even know if doing it on the live cd will work at all
[04:35] <Zeelot> as those are all temporary files?
[04:36] <CraZy675> where do I find the config file again?
[04:36] <CraZy675> i can copy it from my 6.10 install
[04:36] <Jucato>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:36] <Zeelot> mine is listed as generic too, that should not matter aslong as you set the res to something the monitor can handle and the refresh rates too
[04:36] <Jucato> ?
[04:37] <CraZy675> thats the one
[04:37] <Zeelot> yea
[04:40] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/
[04:41] <jmichaelx>  i am TRYING to rip a DVD to my harddrive with k3b... it has been at it now for 3.5 hours, and is at 45%. is there a better/faster way of doing this?a setting i need to change?
[04:42] <makuseru> what speed are you ripping at
[04:42] <manwithaface> you might try kiso
[04:42] <jmichaelx> good question... i do not even know lol
[04:42] <manwithaface> i am just now playing with it myself, so I am no expert
[04:43] <jmichaelx> ok, i will try to check out kiso... as well as my speed setting in K3B
[04:43] <carutsu> kiso?
[04:43] <carutsu> !kiso
[04:43] <ubotwo> kiso - program to create manipulate and extract CD Image - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[04:43] <osiris> did you install libdvdcss2 ? did you install k3b dvd plugin ?
[04:43] <carutsu> i rather k3b xD
[04:43] <manwithaface> it is feisty too
[04:44] <jmichaelx> osiris: dvdcss2 i certainly have.... the dvd plugin i am not sure, but i will assume so at this point...
[04:45] <manwithaface> dvds in US is frowned upon
[04:49] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/
[04:50] <draik> !wine
[04:50] <ubotwo> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:50] <osiris> makuseru, try apt-cache search xine | grep xine
[04:50] <osiris> find the exact package name
[04:50] <osiris> or sudo apt-get install gxine
[04:50] <Jucato> makuseru: there really isn't any "xine" package
[04:51] <manwithaface> what are you trying to install that requires xine?
[04:51] <manwithaface> !xine
[04:51] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[04:51] <CraZy675> alright so I should install the os before I get the display working correctly
[04:51] <Jucato> !info libxine1
[04:51] <ubotwo> libxine1 - the xine video/media player library, binary files - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[04:52] <Zambezi> osiris, ktorrent crasched after an attempt to save files to a non existing location (a removed harddrive).
[04:52] <CraZy675> Anything I should do with the live cd before I install?
[04:52] <manwithaface> crazy675: try the default first
[04:53] <manwithaface> what type of display do you have?
[04:53] <CraZy675> monitor or video card?
[04:53] <osiris> Zambezi, just any old non existant mount point ? or a location that is unmounted
[04:53] <manwithaface> monitor
[04:53] <manwithaface> well, both
[04:53] <CraZy675> my monitor is an acer al2216w 1680x1050
[04:53] <draik> !divx
[04:53] <ubotwo> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:53] <CraZy675> and i have an ati all-in-wonder ve
[04:54] <manwithaface> i would try the default, you might not get full resolution though
[04:54] <Zambezi> osiris, An existing mountpoint, but to a harddrive I removed. ktorrent crashes after clicking okay on the errormessages.
[04:54] <CraZy675> yea I'm going for full resolution as it worked in 6.10
[04:54] <osiris> have you tried pointing it at a write p[rotected directory ?
[04:55] <Zambezi> osiris, No. I changed the rights on the folder.
[04:55] <manwithaface> you might have to tweak it after install
[04:55] <CraZy675> I think I'm just going to install then work from there
[04:55] <CraZy675> yea
[04:55] <CraZy675> thanks see you in a bit
[04:55] <icecruncher> Y
[04:55] <EightiesK> is there anyway for me to read my windows Contents using a live cd...
[04:56] <Zambezi> osiris, I didn't have problem using it before I removed it cause it was really slow. I thinks it's about giving up.
[04:56] <EightiesK> everytime i try to mount it it tells me i don't have enough permisisions
[04:56] <carutsu> isnt there a way to make more points in the processor scalling? right now is 1000 or 2000 MHz, but id like to have it say, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000
[04:56] <ardchoille> EightiesK: Are you using sudo to mount it?
[04:56] <Zambezi> osiris, Didn't have problem with *ktorrent, just the harddrive.
[04:56] <osiris> EightiesK, make a mount point, and mount the partition
[04:56] <osiris> ah
[04:56] <EightiesK> no the boot manager.
[04:57] <EightiesK> windows won't open n i wanna back it all up...
[04:57] <EightiesK>  i use windows on my computer but i'm fixing a friends laptop n he wants his stuff
[04:57] <Zambezi> osiris, I'm going to try a thing now.
[04:57] <manwithaface> if windows is broke, trying to boot into it won't get you far
[04:57] <EightiesK> i use kubuntu as well...
[04:58] <EightiesK> i want to use kubuntu to burn his info to cds.
[04:58] <osiris> its possible to rescue the data before a format
[04:58] <osiris> i have done it from a liveCD before
[04:58] <manwithaface> eightiesk: just the files, nothing fancy?
[04:58] <ardchoille> EightiesK: What is the mount command you are using?
[04:58] <osiris> just need 2 cd/burner drives
[04:58] <EightiesK> i'm just enabling it to media/win
[04:59] <EightiesK> but it won't let me open the folder.
[04:59] <manwithaface> you'll have to do that as root
[04:59] <EightiesK> how?
[04:59] <osiris> sudo su
[04:59] <EightiesK> ok
[05:00] <EightiesK> whats the best way to mount something ?
[05:00] <ardchoille> EightiesK: You have to use sudo to mount the volume on /media/win. I don't know the mount command for Windows because I haven't used win since 2001, but: sudo mount <options> /dev/device /media/win
[05:00] <Zambezi> osiris, This is odd. I made a folder, changed the settings to save the torrents in it, deleted the folder, opened a torrent, saved it, got the errormessages, clicked okay - no crash.
[05:00] <manwithaface> eightiesk: what format is the windows partition?
[05:00] <manwithaface> fat32 or ntfs?
[05:01] <EightiesK> ntfs
[05:01] <ardchoille> manwithaface: He just wants to read, not write
[05:01] <EightiesK> i'm guessing
[05:01] <manwithaface> true
[05:01] <carutsu> isnt there a way to make more points in the processor scalling? right now is 1000 or 2000 MHz, but id like to have it say, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000
[05:01] <carutsu> last time i post, promized, hehe
[05:02] <manwithaface> eightiesk: the way I do it is sudo nano (or kate for a GUI) /etc/fstab
[05:02] <ardchoille> It should be kdesu kate, not sudo
[05:02] <ardchoille> !kdesu
[05:02] <ubotwo> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:03] <EightiesK> Can't connect to xserver
[05:04] <manwithaface> then you will add a new entry looking like so: /dev/hdaX  /media/win  ntfs  defaults  0 0
[05:04] <manwithaface> just do sudo nano. its command line, but its not too differnant. Your just dealing with text
[05:04] <EightiesK> what about in system settings
[05:05] <draik> Anyone here know how I can get a DivX player for firefox?
[05:05] <draik> I can't seem to install/upgrade mozilla-mplayer
[05:05] <manwithaface> eightiesk: i don't know of a way to do it through there
[05:06] <manwithaface> btw, where hdaX is is that partition of the hard drive
[05:07] <EightiesK> do u know a way to run the file system from root?
[05:07] <manwithaface> file system? do you mean konqueror?
[05:07] <EightiesK> ya
[05:07] <carutsu> I'm installing kubuntu in another laptop however it seems ntfs resizer it's stuck, however system shows it is not inactive, have been runing for at least 5 minutes and hasn't showed any advances
[05:07] <carutsu> should i kill it? is there a risk?
[05:07] <manwithaface> kdesu konqueror
[05:08] <watcher> i just had that when installing it onto my computer, i ended up using a different partition, probably is a way round it but im a complete noob
[05:08] <manwithaface> carutsu: anytime you kill something in formating, resizing, there is a risk
[05:08] <ardchoille> EightiesK: kdesu kfmclient exec /
[05:08] <EightiesK> refused by xserver...
[05:08] <manwithaface> your xserver doesn't like you
[05:08] <ardchoille> lol
[05:09] <carutsu> manwithaface: mmm it shouws that system% is only 6-9.00
[05:09] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/ (amarok says The xine-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.)
[05:09] <EightiesK>  ...
[05:09] <manwithaface> 6-9.00?
[05:09] <carutsu> thank goodness i didnt kill it, it was working
[05:09] <EightiesK> no good...
[05:09] <^RiaN^> !seen Timgroe
[05:10] <EightiesK> !recover
[05:10] <manwithaface> eightiesk: what do you need root filesystem for?
[05:10] <ubotwo> recover - Undelete files on ext2 partitions - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[05:10] <ubotwo> I last saw TimGroe (n=TimGroe@202.172.122.211) 12h 4m 31s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[05:10] <EightiesK> it still says i don't have proper permissions
[05:10] <manwithaface> did the partition mount?
[05:10] <EightiesK> yes
[05:10] <manwithaface> excellent
[05:10] <manwithaface> try sudo konqueror
[05:11] <manwithaface> i know it is frowned upon, but if the other method fails, what options have you?
[05:12] <EightiesK> no good... :-/ x server again...
[05:12] <manwithaface> hmm
[05:12] <manwithaface> blasted thing
[05:12] <manwithaface> you are on a live cd?
[05:13] <manwithaface> how big of a partition are you burning to a CD?
[05:14] <manwithaface> wait, eightiesk: are you still in sudo su?
[05:14] <manwithaface> on your konsole is it root@hostname?
[05:14] <redfive> what are all these kde upgrades
[05:15] <^RiaN^> someone here use crossover
[05:15] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/ (amarok says The xine-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.)
[05:15] <manwithaface> makuseru: do you have an mp3 decoder?
[05:15] <manwithaface> such as LAME?
[05:15] <makuseru> how do i check
[05:16] <manwithaface> on amarok, if you can't play them, it should pop up a nice little window with Install MP3 Support
[05:16] <manwithaface> !lame
[05:16] <ubotwo> lame - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[05:16] <manwithaface> try and play an mp3
[05:16] <makuseru> the "install mp3 support" never works for me
[05:17] <twstokes> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:17] <twstokes> That will get MP3's in Amarok
[05:17] <makuseru> i have it
[05:17] <^RiaN^> manwithaface: what software to use for internet radio
[05:17] <manwithaface> what internet radio?
[05:18] <manwithaface> amarok can catch streams and play them, but idk what that has to do with crossover
[05:19] <Zeelot> hey guys, do I have to run beryl with xgl? I get no window frames out of xgl
[05:19] <^RiaN^> i see
[05:19] <carutsu> Zeelot: as far as i know XGL is only a layer for the other programs to do the work, yo do have to enable a window manager
[05:19] <carutsu> !XGL|Zeelot
[05:20] <ubotwo> eelot: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:20] <manwithaface> eightiesk: still with us?
[05:20] <Zeelot> I want to remove XGL
[05:20] <Zeelot> I only want beryl on the regular x11
[05:21] <Zeelot> !beryl
[05:21] <ubotwo> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:21] <twstokes> You have to have XGL to run Beryl
[05:22] <Zeelot> you are sure? is this just for ubuntu then? because I had it in debian that way
[05:22] <Zeelot> o_o
[05:22] <dennister> hey ppl...getting really frsutrated here because i did have flash working well in feisty, and then all of a sudden I don't get any sound with the flash videos...any ideas? I've already purged firefox and reinstalled
[05:23] <twstokes> Zeelot - I believe all distros need XGL to run Beryl / Compiz
[05:23] <carutsu> Zeelot: cant run only beryl, X has no acelerated graphics support via OpenGL, that's what XGL is for
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> dennister: try killing the kde sound system, sometimes that conflicts
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot: actually, are you running ati or nvidia?
[05:23] <Zeelot> nvidia
[05:23] <Zeelot> I have beryl running now, the only problem is the window frames vanished
[05:23] <dennister> hitmanWilly: kde sound server was killed b4, i just got it started again, still no improvement
[05:23] <Zeelot> they only appear with xgl
[05:23] <carutsu> dennister: mmmm, haven't you touched alsa? just to make sure
[05:24] <twstokes> Try reloading your window manager with Beryl-Manager
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot: sudo nvidia-xconfig  --add-argb-glx visuals
[05:24] <twstokes> Make sure Emerald is selected
[05:24] <Zeelot> did
[05:24] <carutsu> yep, twstokes said it first
[05:24] <dennister> i was struggling with alsa awhile ago, and that's when I turned sound server off
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot: sudo nvidia-xconfig  --add-argb-glx-visuals
[05:24] <Zeelot> alright
[05:25] <carutsu> dennister: er, im not quite good with alsa, do you have any other problems?
[05:25] <carutsu> say with Amarok
[05:25] <carutsu> dennister: check the volume levels with alsamixer
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot: you don't need XGL for an nvidia card, aiglx (built in) works fine, or it can render directly via the nvidia driver
[05:26] <dennister> volume levels are fine...and the nonfree flash is the only plugin i've installed so far with the reinstallation of firefox
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot: you do need argb-glx visuals enabled, tho
[05:26] <dennister> other sound is fine...just not with flash videos
[05:26] <carutsu> dennister: installed how was it guys moz-nonfree? or something is flash but tweaked for firefox
[05:26] <Zeelot> just did, I will be right back
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> flashplugin-nonfree is the pkg
[05:27] <dennister> & flashplugin-nonfree is what i have...i get the video fine, just no sound
[05:27] <ubotwo> dennister: Error: "flashplugin-nonfree" is not a valid command.
[05:27] <carutsu> hitmanWilly: yes but the firefox version
[05:27] <carutsu> dennister: wait
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> there's a firefox specific one? didn't know that...
[05:28] <carutsu> hitmanWilly: not exactly is a patch for firefox, im not sure how to call it
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> oh, ok
[05:30] <dennister> is it libflash-mozplugin?
[05:30] <carutsu> dennister: i think that is, I'm not sure, i couldnt find it
[05:31] <dennister> well i'll try it
[05:32] <Zeelot> that worked thanks
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot: took me forever to find that one on the web, figured id save you some trouble :)
[05:33] <bbeck_> Does anyone know how to enable spell checking in Kopete?
[05:34] <n8k99> bbeck_: right click in the text entry field
[05:34] <twstokes> I found that if you click the little "Pencil" and take it out of Rich Text mode it will do spell checking
[05:34] <dennister> great...firefox just crashed :(
[05:34] <Zeelot> yea I googled beryl + nvidia the first time that's why I had beryl without xgl on debian
[05:35] <Zeelot> and for some reason I stumbled onto the beryl + xgl pages when I was on kubuntu
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot: nvidia cards are a lot less of a headache in nix
[05:35] <Zeelot> yea for sure
[05:35] <bbeck_> n8k99: thanks
[05:35] <Zeelot> I keep my ATI computers with freebsd and no gui =P
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> i even set up nvidia on a gentoo box with no trouble...that's user friendly right there :P
[05:36] <Zeelot> haha
[05:36] <n8k99> welcome bbeck_
[05:37] <twstokes> I was surprised recently though how much better the ATI drivers are now with XGL / Beryl
[05:37] <twstokes> I could run it on my laptop with an x300 and it would do really well
[05:37] <Zeelot> yea my laptop has an ATI and I run suse on it
[05:37] <Zeelot> decently well
[05:38] <Zeelot> might just put freebsd in there too >_<
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> twstokes: yeah, but its hit or miss most of the time, different cards, different results
[05:38] <dennister> ok...libflash-mozplugin is definitely a problem...as soon as I installed it, firefox crashed, loaded it again, tried to access a video on youtube, and i couldn't even see the video...now that I uninstalled it again, at least I'm seeing the viedo...but still no sound
[05:38] <twstokes> Right, I know. I just remember not too long ago my laptop would go nuts with the fans when running Beryl.
[05:38] <twstokes> Now it hardly taxes the CPU at all.
[05:38] <dennister> so stay away from libflash-mozplugin folks :)
[05:44] <dennister> everyone given up on my flash-sound prob?
[05:45] <Captain_Haddock> I have two PCs - one x86 and another x86_64 - both running ubuntu. When I update packages on the 32 bit box, can I share the apt cache as a local repository for the 64 bit box? Will the 64 bit box be able to differentiate between 32 bit and 64 bit packages?
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> Captain_Haddock: yes, they should be able too
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> Captain_Haddock: debs are labeled with the architecture type req'd
[05:46] <Captain_Haddock> hitmanWilly: Cheers, I'll give it a shot then :)
[05:46] <dennister> k...gonna see if i can't get it working wtih gnome...cyas folks
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> Captain_Haddock: worst case scenario it won't install them anyway, at least not without the --force option
[05:47] <Captain_Haddock> Good good :)
[05:48] <dr_willis> i can normally get nvidia and ati both working on my 2 linux boxs  in just a few min. Not too hard.  but the fact is it often CAN be a pain :(
[05:49] <carutsu> In 2 of my laptops i always get an error X Error: Bad DEvice, Invalid input device 169
[05:49] <Captain_Haddock> hitmanWilly: I think I'm just going to copy over all the debs with the _all suffix and take it from there.
[05:49] <Captain_Haddock> Thanks dude
[05:49] <carutsu> any clues?
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> np :)
[05:51] <bbeck_> Does anyone have any experience installing Kubuntu on a Lenovo/IBM T61?  I'm thinking of purchasing a laptop, and I really like that particular one, but I would hate to spend money on something that doesn't completely work.
[05:51] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with xine, when i try to install it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528/ (amarok says The xine-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.)
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: i think the package you need is libxine and libxine-extracodecs for amarok to work
[05:55] <CraZy675> The monitors work as soon as I installed kubuntu
[05:55] <CraZy675> just didn't work on the live cd for some reason
[05:55] <makuseru> hitmanWilly: no package as libxine and i have the otger
[05:55] <makuseru> other*
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: try xine-ui
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: that's the whole player, so the engine comes with it :)
[05:56] <makuseru> i have that
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: then xine's installed. what exactly is the problem?
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: mp3 issues?
[05:57] <makuseru> yes
[05:57] <david2> nvidia 64 bit drivers install 32 bit libs as well?
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> !mp3 | makuseru
[05:57] <ubotwo> makuseru: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:57] <makuseru> hitmanwilly, would you like to do a remote desktop to see if you can help me?
[05:58] <david2> anyone know?
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: sorry, don't have vnc set up...see the link from ubotu
[05:58] <makuseru> no help there
[05:58] <makuseru> that was the first thing i went to
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> david2: yes, for 32 bit emulation in apps
[05:59] <david2> would any lib32 package in apt over write any of nvidia's
[05:59] <david2> ??
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: do you have w32codecs installed?
[05:59] <makuseru> yes, got them from automatix
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> david2: i don't believe so
[05:59] <david2> Never winter Nights segfaults
[06:00] <david2> and as far as I can tell, it is using the 32 bit libs
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: try enabling the medibuntu repos and get them from there
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> david2: issues like those are why i went to a 32 bit version :)
[06:01] <david2> I dont have a free partition to do 32 bit
[06:01] <david2> otherwise I'd consider it
[06:01] <david2> Works on my crappier computer
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> david2: honestly, i really don't know, could be one of a million things
[06:02] <david2> nvidia fx 5200
[06:02] <david2> like 512 g on ram
[06:02] <david2> slow very slow
[06:02] <david2> bummer
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> david2: ubuntu 64 doesn't play well with 32 bit apps
[06:02] <david2> So I am seeing that
[06:03] <david2> may have to wipe it and install gentoo :(!
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> david2: there's always the option of setting up a 32 bit chroot, but that's a serious PITA
[06:03] <david2> Yeah work
[06:03] <carutsu> wow, i've visited a website which uses flash, imediatly i was asked if i wanted to install macromedia player, amazingly it was with konqueror
[06:04] <david2> damn so how bad do I want to play this game?
[06:05] <david2> well I'll sleep on it
[06:05] <dr_willis> carutsu,  id be more amazed if it worked that way. :)
[06:05] <carutsu> dr_willis: it actually worked
[06:05] <david2> the NWN forums are pretty disorganized
[06:06] <dr_willis> carutsu,  i never have had that work.
[06:06] <carutsu> dr_willis: I'm playing now
[06:06] <dr_willis> NWN is pretty diorganized :)
[06:07] <flake> why do the certificates not match the website, like wiki.kubuntu.com/.. ?
[06:07] <flake> firefox gives me that warning
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> flake: seems fine to me...
[06:09] <carutsu> why is gcc in restricted extras?
[06:10] <carutsu> !gcc
[06:10] <ubotwo> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> carutsu: it comes with build-essential
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> s/with/in
[06:12] <flake> ack.. can't install webmail or hotmail cause it aint compatible with firefox
[06:12] <carutsu> mmm, i cant set my resolution higher than 1280x800 although im sure in XP i had 1440
[06:13] <flake> mozilla-firefox
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> flake: you do realize that hotmail is M$, right?  seriously doubt they were worried about that...:P
[06:14] <antuan> hello everybody
[06:14] <flake> true, i have yahoo account too, hate having to use browser for mail
[06:14] <antuan> how are you
[06:14] <carutsu> flake: you cant install what?
[06:14] <flake> webmail for firefox
[06:14] <antuan> >.>
[06:14] <carutsu> flake: webmail is for thunderbird
[06:14] <antuan> <.<
[06:14] <antuan> em em
[06:14] <flake> right, but trying to install thru firefox
[06:15] <antuan> viva Mexico???
[06:15] <flake> do i save to file and install thru thunderbird?
[06:15] <carutsu> flake: firefox whants to install it, save it to disk
[06:15] <carutsu> flake: cant be installed thru firefox
[06:15] <carutsu> antuan: xD why?
[06:15] <antuan> ^^
[06:16] <antuan> because Im a Mexican boy
[06:16] <antuan> yeah!!
[06:16] <ubuntu_> hi, im on a live cd trying to resize a partition, and im using qtparted, i right click on a partiton and resize is greyed out, how can i fiz this?
[06:16] <jontec> a cut and paste of a large file across the network failed (samba). Is there anyway to retrieve the temporary file (if it exists, I just copied 699MB too)
[06:16] <ubuntu_> fix*
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: are you running it with kdesu?
[06:17] <ubuntu_> no im not, lemme go do that
[06:17] <carutsu> antuan: estee yo tambien vivo en Mexico jajaja!
[06:17] <antuan> hu???
[06:17] <carutsu> antuan: cat speak too much spanish before they get mad though, xD
[06:17] <jontec> ubuntu_: I HATE qtparted. I'd much rather just wait (I'm on dial-up) to install gparted
[06:17] <ubuntu_> whats the difference?
[06:17] <antuan> jajaja
[06:17] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  depending on the partiion layout/type it may not be doable thus the greyibng out
[06:18] <antuan> paisano como os va
[06:18] <jontec> ubuntu_: i.e. adept > install gparted
[06:18] <ubuntu_> im on a live cd
[06:18] <dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <dr_willis> There is a gparted live cd - 50mb thats nice tool to have
[06:18] <flake> cool, thanks. I'm glad I asked
[06:18] <jontec> ubuntu_: qtparted, for me... only allows me to do one thing to a drive. O_o, but I'm amd64, it might just be a bug (but it's been in both 6.06 and 7.04 :S)
[06:18] <ubuntu_> whats that difference between qtparted and gparted?
[06:19] <ubuntu_> doing it kdesu didnt change anything, im only able to resize the swap partition
[06:19] <carutsu> qtparted = made with qt
[06:19] <jontec> ubuntu_: gparted uses gnome, qtparted uses the qt (KDE is based on this) windowing tool (terminology check)
[06:19] <carutsu> ubuntu_: gparted= made with GTK
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: different apps to do the same thing, gparted tend to work better imho
[06:20] <carutsu> hitmanWilly: work better?
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: or fdisk :P
[06:20] <jontec> yeah, I'm usually K all the way, but gparted just works.
[06:20] <CraZy675> macromedia's site is sooo slow
[06:20] <ubuntu_> well how can i resize this partition
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> i've had qtparted crash on me before, and that's NOT something i want in a disk partitioner :)
[06:21] <carutsu> I've installed "Restricted Extras" However I still can't play mp3 files
[06:21] <ubuntu_> ok ok ok, stop arguing about what is better, how can i resize my partition
[06:22] <jontec> ubuntu_: what is it listed as? Is it "unknown" or "free space"?
[06:22] <carutsu> use qparted gparted?
[06:22] <ubuntu_> im using qtparted
[06:22] <ubuntu_> it greyed out
[06:22] <jontec> ubuntu_: you right click and then (do something) and then choose the start location and end location, I think.
[06:23] <ubuntu_> jontec: no, its my main partition, i need to resize it
[06:23] <defrysk> ubuntu_, is the partition mounted ?
[06:23] <jontec> ubuntu_: yeah, :D which one are you using (I assumed qt)
[06:23] <ubuntu_> how can i tell?
[06:23] <defrysk> key in mount
[06:23] <ubuntu_> qtparted
[06:23] <defrysk> and see if its mounted
[06:23] <carutsu> is it bluish? is qt, is it brownish GTK, XDD
[06:23] <defrysk> in a terminal
[06:24] <CraZy675> whats wrong with flashplugin-nonfree?
[06:24] <ubuntu_> so how do i know if its mounted?
[06:24] <ubuntu_> it would list sda1 as a mount/
[06:24] <CraZy675> its taking forever for adept to install it
[06:24] <ubuntu_> ?*
[06:25] <jontec> (oh yeah, I have a question) where's KDE/konqueror's temp folder? I can't remember T_T
[06:25] <defrysk> ubuntu_, then your main partition is mounted and cannot be resized
[06:25] <ubuntu_> no
[06:25] <ubuntu_> i was asking
[06:25] <ubuntu_> !pastebin
[06:25] <ubotwo> pastebin-#kubuntu is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:26] <defrysk> ubuntu_, does the live cd have a "use existing free space" option ?
[06:26] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22531/ thats what is mounted
[06:27] <jontec> defrysk: there is no free space... O_o it's one continuous partition
[06:27] <ubuntu_> im not trying to install anything, im just trying to resize a partition
[06:27] <carutsu> !mp3>carutsu
[06:27] <jontec> ubuntu_: alright, just install gparted... because I have a copy of that on my computer
[06:27] <manwithaface> ubuntu_: i just jumped in, but I believe the partition must be unmounted first
[06:28] <defrysk> well  it should net be a problem with gparted, not sure about qtparted
[06:28] <defrysk> not*
[06:28] <dfgas> how do i change the power off time for my monitor?
[06:29] <jontec> ubuntu_: all the ones that are mounted in gparted (after you install it...) are indicated with a lock... you can then see which ones need to be unmounted
[06:30] <jontec> ubuntu_: before you make any changes
[06:30] <jontec> ubuntu_: hehe, you can even unmount it from there.
[06:30] <ubuntu_> ok, i see that the swap has a lock
[06:30] <flake> I have to have the paid version of hotmail in order to use it in tbird ?
[06:30] <ubuntu_> because thats what the live cd is running from
[06:30] <ubuntu_> everything else is ok
[06:30] <geekytrent> flake: without a script, yes
[06:31] <jontec> ubuntu_: alright then, get to it! :D
[06:31] <carutsu> if I'm using the 945 how do i get it to work out the resolution, I tried with 915resolution but only gets up to 1280x1024 and It supports higher resolutions
[06:31] <ubuntu_> wow, gparted is better than qtparted
[06:31] <carutsu> *the 945 intel chipset xorry
[06:31] <jontec> hehe
[06:31] <defrysk> flake, I believe tbirt has an addon to circumvent this
[06:31] <flake> I installed the webmail, yahoo, and hotmail addons
[06:32] <defrysk> no you need a tbird addon
[06:32] <flake> now what, it wants to know smtp and the outgoing
[06:32] <carutsu> you add it
[06:32] <carutsu> and booth pop and smtp is localhost
[06:32] <defrysk> and get a google account
[06:33] <carutsu> havent you looked in google there are THOUSANDS of how-to's
[06:33] <draik> Any major issues with the new release of the linux headers and such?
[06:33] <draik> I can't launch Firefox or Thunderbird. Beryl is out
[06:33] <flake> that's the problem, i'm all googly eyed
[06:34] <flake> added a webmail account, connection refused
[06:34] <flake> my hotmail under the webmail account
[06:35] <carutsu> check the ports
[06:35] <carutsu> in webmail flake, seroiusly, look for a tutorial, it'll be easier
[06:35] <defrysk> flake, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_webmail_with_your_email_client
[06:36] <defrysk> how hard can it be
[06:36] <defrysk> took me about 0.1 sec to find it
[06:36] <geekytrent> flake: or you can use this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hotwayd/
[06:37] <^RiaN^> hiii everyone
[06:37] <Zeelot> hellloooo again
[06:38] <carutsu> geekytrent: he already has thunderbird, it'll be easier if he just install webmail
[06:38] <Zeelot> is there a simple way of making the windows key open the kmenu? like in windows =P
[06:38] <jontec> I need to find that tmp folder, anyone know where it is?
[06:38] <carutsu> er try configuring it, if KDE cant do it, then cant be done XD
[06:39] <geekytrent> carutsu: true, i simply use those just incase i want to change the email client i use
[06:39] <Zeelot> is there somewhere to configure KDE shortcuts?
[06:39] <geekytrent> that way, i'm not dependant on a specific email proggy
[06:39] <carutsu> geekytrent: xD you are a changer eh, very
[06:40] <carutsu> Zeelot: yes
[06:40] <Zeelot> where at?
[06:40] <^RiaN^> someone have install ragnarok online here
[06:40] <^RiaN^> i need help with this
[06:40] <carutsu> Zeelot: try in system>mouse and keyboard
[06:41] <^RiaN^> carutsu: how to install ragnarok online
[06:41] <flake> ugh.. gotta forward yet another port?
[06:42] <carutsu> flake: no, no port forwarding just make the port go over 1024 since undfer that number are for root only
[06:42] <enzo_> What is NSPLUGINSCAN?
[06:42] <carutsu> !nspluginscan
[06:42] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[06:42] <carutsu> !info nspluginscan
[06:42] <carutsu> enzo_: no clue
[06:43] <carutsu> !info nspluginscan
[06:43] <jontec> ^RiaN^: google search 'ragnarok linux', better yet 'ragnarok linux ubuntu'
[06:43] <enzo_> That makes two of us
[06:43] <carutsu> enzo_: XD
[06:43] <enzo_> I'm on my laptop
[06:43] <enzo_> My desktop won't do anything. No Beryl, no Firefox, no Thunderbird... I'm SOL
[06:43] <enzo_> It all happened with the upgrade to the new kernel
[06:43] <carutsu> hey im un kubuntu obviously in order to get the Extras (mp3 divx, so on) i have to download the same packages like in ubuntu?
[06:43] <geekytrent> enzo_: boot into the old kernel then
[06:44] <Zeelot> hmm doesn;t seem to let me just use the Win key it has to be Win+something =(
[06:44] <enzo_> I am
[06:44] <enzo_> Same problem, geekytrent
[06:44] <carutsu> Zeelot: try win+space
[06:44] <carutsu> enzo_: then the kernel is not the problem
[06:44] <Zeelot> yea that works but not what I'm looking for
[06:44] <enzo_> I can't install anything either
[06:44] <jontec> carutsu, Zeelot: a lot of K apps use Win+* for things... amaroK, for example
[06:45] <enzo_> something about a bad file with too many dependencies
[06:45] <geekytrent> enzo_: can you create another user account, and see if it works in there?
[06:45] <carutsu> Zeelot: as far as i know the win key is a modofier and needs to be used with something else
[06:45] <jontec> prolly why it won't let you use win by itself
[06:45] <carutsu> jontec: yes i know
[06:45] <Zeelot> yea alright thanks
[06:45] <jontec> k
[06:46] <lfranchi> i'm trying to install kubuntu on my macbook pro, and when booting from the 7.04 install cd, after choosing what type of install, and after seeing the status bar scroll (I see X starting) i just get a black screen with nothing on it (but i can type and characters appear). can anyone help?
[06:46] <enzo_> geekytrent: I have to figure something out FAST. I have a flight in a few hours and I need my email to get the confirmation number
[06:46] <enzo_> How do I downgrade?
[06:46] <carutsu> geekytrent: i want to play mp3 amarok tries to install the codec however for some reason it just cant, in order to get it, what packages should i get? same as ubuntu? i mean kubuntu uses xine as backend too?
[06:47] <geekytrent> enzo_: make another user, and see if it works with that new user account...if so, your preference files are borked
[06:47] <dr_willis> yea amarok for some odd reason has an issue installing that.
[06:47] <dr_willis> i either got it to work by running amarok from the shell.. or i may of just manually installed the packages mentioned on the Kubuntu Faq.
[06:48] <carutsu> dr_willis: kubuntu faq.. let me see, i'm being redirected to a ubuntu and i dont think they use the same engine, but let me check
[06:48] <geekytrent> carutsu: install this: libxine-extracodecs
[06:48] <carutsu> geekytrent: that was my question so kubuntu _do_ uses xine too
[06:48] <geekytrent> yes
[06:49] <nahemoth> what should I use instead of "HJSPLIT" in Kubuntu?
[06:49] <enzo_> geekytrent: Well, nspluginscan still craps out
[06:49] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: when you find out why some people's machines have trouble installing it, please do tell
[06:50] <enzo_> geekytrent: Firefox won't open either
[06:50] <geekytrent> enzo_: i'm thinking it might not have completed the linking correctly when installing the new kernel
[06:51] <enzo_> geekytrent: So what should I do?
[06:52] <geekytrent> enzo_: rescue mode it, copy all the info you have in your user directory, and reinstall would be the easiest solution...or mount your directory from the cd, and import your info into the email client on cd to check the email
[06:52] <enzo_> :(
[06:52] <geekytrent> there is a hard workaround, but i'll have to look it up
[06:53] <geekytrent> it's been years since i've had to manually unlink and revert back to an older kernel
[06:53] <nahemoth> instead of HJSPLIT ?
[06:55] <enzo_> geekytrent: Isn't there a way to force the upgrade
[06:55] <enzo_> geekytrent: I know I've heard of a way and I've done it once, but I don't recall
[06:55] <enzo_> This was almost exactly one year ago when 6.06 was FIRST released
[06:55] <dr_willis> Hobbsee,  id have to do a clean reinstall and watch what happened. :) I was thinking that thee was some clue in the konsole text.
[06:56] <flake> gmail is working ok, it's asking for password but I don't have an account set up
[06:57] <geekytrent> enzo_: here is a guide but using lilo as the boot loader http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/tuning/kernelcompilation.shtml
[06:57] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: would be helpful to have access to that.  sometimes it doesnt seem to come up for people at all, which is what's got me confused
[06:58] <geekytrent> enzo_: you can manually download the kernel, and try again this way
[06:58] <enzo_> How?
[06:58] <enzo_> geekytrent: HOW?
[06:58] <geekytrent> using wget
[07:00] <enzo_> geekytrent: linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic is already the latest version
[07:00] <geekytrent> okay, so you have it...use that page to help compile it again.
[07:02] <geekytrent> here is a better explanation: http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/202/1/
[07:04] <geekytrent> but like i said, i recommend a reinstall...it's faster.
[07:04] <geekytrent> and easier
[07:09] <enzo_> geekytrent: Well, I called the airline and got what I needed, but it still doesn't solve the issue with the nspluginscan crash
[07:09] <enzo_> What do I lose when I go into recovery mode?
[07:09] <geekytrent> enzo_: nothing
[07:10] <enzo_> so what's the diff?
[07:10] <geekytrent> enzo_: well, what do you mean by lose?
[07:10] <enzo_> What options do I lose? What is taken away from usage?
[07:10] <userund> enzo_: you start as root.
[07:11] <enzo_> I wish there was a way I can back track what happened.
[07:11] <enzo_> nspluginscan is what is causing a lot of problems
[07:12] <enzo_> Is there a way to see what was installed with my last "apt-get upgrade"?
[07:13] <geekytrent> ugh, later all, i'm going to bed :)
[07:14] <joakim_> j
[07:16] <joakim_> hi
[07:16] <drarem> it's sad that hotmail is changing to windows live hotmail, I've had my account since 1996
[07:16] <joakim_> anyone can tell me how this works?
[07:16] <bsundsrud> how what works? IRC?
[07:16] <joakim_> yes please
[07:16] <joakim_> irC
[07:16] <bsundsrud> you chat, in rooms based on topic.
[07:17] <dr_willis> drarem,  they should change the name to "Windows Live SpamMail"
[07:17] <joakim_> whats the topic here?
[07:17] <bsundsrud> for instance, this is #kubuntu, where people come to discuss the linux distribution Kubuntu
[07:17] <joakim_> allright! thanks
[07:17] <obvio171> joakim_: how did you get here, by the way?
[07:18] <drarem> that's true too
[07:18] <joakim_> I installed kubuntu and Konversation opened/started by default it seemed
[07:18] <obvio171> ah, nice :)
[07:18] <obvio171> welcome then :)
[07:18] <obvio171> this is a great place to get help
[07:19] <nirmal> try meebo.com if you need chat with your friends:joakim
[07:19] <joakim_> yeah I hope so i'v been browsing.. and the forums is the best place so far...I'll try this next time I need help
[07:19] <bsundsrud> yeah forums and this channel are great resources if you're having trouble
[07:20] <joakim_> ok nirmal..just checking this out
[07:22] <drarem> so webmail / thunderbird is an email server ?
[07:22] <ubuntu_> hi, im resizing a partition from 120gb to 64gb, its been going for about 45min and is still on 0 of 4 operations completed (im using gparted) and when i click details it says "resize2fs /dev/sda1 66347M, its been on this for abotu 45 min, i dont want to click cancel because i might lose everything, is it normal for this to take this long?
[07:22] <nirmal> cool
[07:23] <bsundsrud> ubuntu_: it generally depends on the amount of data that it has to move while resizing, though 45 minutes seems excessive.
[07:23] <drarem> ubuntu_  don't panic, the answer is 42  and yes but hope you backed everything up valuable first
[07:23] <dr_willis> hmm..you dont have more then 64gb of data on that do you?
[07:23] <ubuntu_> no
[07:23] <ubuntu_> i have 56
[07:23] <dr_willis> just checing.. heh heh..
[07:23] <bsundsrud> that would be bad
[07:24] <bsundsrud> haha
[07:24] <dr_willis> this is a ntfs partition its resizing?
[07:24] <bsundsrud> magic compression?
[07:24] <ubuntu_> no, ext3
[07:24] <bsundsrud> hmm, and it wasn
[07:24] <dr_willis> hmm.. could check dmesg output see if any info is showing up.
[07:24] <bsundsrud> wasn't mounted?
[07:24] <ubuntu_> it just changed to e2fsxk -fy /dev/sda1
[07:24] <ubuntu_> no, it wasnt mounted
[07:24] <bsundsrud> well at least it just changed :D
[07:24] <dr_willis> sounds like its working then. :)
[07:24] <ubuntu_> fsck*
[07:25] <bsundsrud> yeah, you're fscked.
[07:25] <bsundsrud> hehe, i love that command.
[07:25] <ubuntu_> what is that command?
[07:25] <bsundsrud> but it sounds like its working ok, its doing a FileSystem ChecK of the resized partition
[07:25] <ubuntu_> oh
[07:26] <bsundsrud> a full one, may take a bit
[07:26] <ubuntu_> dr_willisL what did you say i should check?
[07:26] <joakim_> hi what firewall do you recomend for kubuntu?
[07:26] <bsundsrud> at a console, type 'dmesg'
[07:26] <bsundsrud> and look for suspicious messages, especially pertaining to disks
[07:26] <dr_willis> sounds to me like its working fine.. its just slow
[07:26] <ubuntu_> well, what do you know
[07:27] <ubuntu_> i opened it from a console
[07:27] <ubuntu_> so its been putting everything there
[07:27] <dr_willis> :)
[07:27] <dr_willis> linux FUNdamentals!
[07:27] <ubuntu_> YAY! 1 operation completed
[07:27] <dr_willis> that prog is mainly a front end to console/shell commands
[07:27] <bsundsrud> ubuntu_: woots, it should go quicker now.
[07:28] <ubuntu_> yes, i know gui's are just front ends for term based things
[07:28] <bsundsrud> well, sometimes.
[07:29] <bsundsrud> hehe
[07:29] <ubuntu_> most of the time
[07:30] <bsundsrud> for most of the important bits, yes.  things like parted because they are well tested and vetted and re-implementing it in GUI wouldn't add anything, and could possibly introduce FS-trashing bugs
[07:31] <dr_willis> try explainign that to these windows users and they cant under stand that. :0
[07:31] <ubuntu_> ha
[07:31] <bsundsrud> yeah i know.
[07:32] <ubuntu_> "termin-a-huh?"
[07:32] <bsundsrud> its best to just hide the term stuff from them
[07:32] <dr_willis> then again they got a hard time understanding a lot of things :)
[07:32] <bsundsrud> "what? theres no terminal here.  we're just scary OS internals. ooooooh!"
[07:33] <ubuntu_> but in windows instead of doing somthing in a term you have to open 554654 windows go though 54546847 drop-downs click 5454564 checkboxes
[07:33] <dr_willis> then in the next versionof windows.. its been moved
[07:34] <bsundsrud> yeah. and yet they still call me crazy for using a term.
[07:34] <ubuntu_> haha
[07:34] <bsundsrud> sigh
[07:34] <tmbg> gtkxine: auto-detecting video driver...
[07:34] <tmbg> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:34] <tmbg> :(
[07:34] <tmbg> ^ pornview :/
[07:34] <bsundsrud> gtkxine?
[07:34] <ubuntu_> so what do you think about the ubuntu-dell thing dr_willis?
[07:34] <bsundsrud> tmbg: what are you trying to run?
[07:35] <dr_willis> from what ive seen.. their desktop systems seem a little overpriced.. laptops seem ok
[07:35] <tmbg> bsundsrud, pornview
[07:35] <dr_willis> I would MUCH rather see them have some more infoon whats in their desktop systms.. what mb/chipset and so on
[07:35] <bsundsrud> they're supposed to be slightly cheaper for same spec'd windows systems...
[07:35] <tmbg> it's an image viewer that's actually pretty nice, despite the retarded name.
[07:35] <ubuntu_> the desktop is 150 cheaper than the same desktop with win on it
[07:35] <bsundsrud> tmbg: haha gotta love some F/OSS project names :)
[07:35] <dr_willis> bsundsrud,  i dident notice thembeing much cheaper. but from what i saw.. they got identicall 'name' type systems.. but different stuff in them
[07:36] <tmbg> yeah. any ideas?
[07:36] <dr_willis> not sure how DELL does their names. :) but the linux laptops are all using intel cpus and their other (similer #) pc ones have amd cpus
[07:36] <bsundsrud> i can't say that i've heard of gtkxine... is that a frontend or a backend?
[07:37] <ubuntu_> frontend
[07:37] <bsundsrud> dr_willis: just hopefully enough people buy them that people see that linux can be relevant in the desktop market...
[07:37] <ubuntu_> the whole reason im doing this is xine problems
[07:37] <Rictoo> how would I | grep something and also show the lines around it?
[07:37] <ubuntu_> yay, it finished resizing
[07:37] <bsundsrud> tmbg: sorry, not much experience with that and im not on kubuntu at the moment
[07:37] <dogatemycomputer> bsundsrud: that's the problem.  *most* of us linux guys/gals are computer geeks so we build our own computers.  I personally use 2 Dell machines here because the company paid for them..
[07:37] <dr_willis> bsundsrud,  of course compare what dellis offering with the price of a build-it-your-self system..   i dont see much point inthe dell desktops forme
[07:38] <bsundsrud> Rictoo: grep -C<lines of context>
[07:38] <Rictoo> <3
[07:38] <dr_willis> Now i did get a nice littel $888 laptop quote..
[07:38] <bsundsrud> Rictoo: like, grep -C2 something
[07:38] <dr_willis> but local best buy has similer laptop for less $$
[07:38] <dogatemycomputer> I am glad to hear they're selling  them though.  There are quite a few people i have suggested linux too in the past but I couldn't find anyplace to refer them too.
[07:38] <bsundsrud> Rictoo: also, -A# will be # lines after, -B# will be # lines before.
[07:38] <dogatemycomputer> Now I can say.. "try out linux first..  www.dell.com"..
[07:38] <dr_willis> and it will come ith a copy of windows for when i do outgrow the laptop and give it to mom.
[07:39] <bsundsrud> dr_willis: the point of the desktops is for people that don't want to do all the setup, and wade through forums and IRC channels to get everything working :D
[07:39] <ubuntu_> does anyone know if inted 945g's are ok graphics chipsets?
[07:39] <bsundsrud> ubuntu_: what are you doing with it?
[07:40] <bsundsrud> ubuntu_: works for beryl fine, maybe not for some games.
[07:40] <ubuntu_> thats what i wanted to do
[07:40] <ubuntu_> i was gunna build a new machine, and that was was on the mobo
[07:40] <ubuntu_> i didnt know if i needed a card or not
[07:40] <bsundsrud> ubuntu_: then yes.  I've set it up on friend's machines and its the most painless 3d video drivers in linux
[07:40] <ubuntu_> i have a 845
[07:40] <ubuntu_> it does it
[07:40] <ubuntu_> but just barelty
[07:41] <ubuntu_> barely*
[07:41] <ubuntu_> 23fps max
[07:41] <bsundsrud> only thing is maybe resolutions, but im sure you know of 915resolution :D
[07:41] <ubuntu_> ya, but i always just do mine manually in the xorg
[07:41] <bsundsrud> yeah thats getting a bit old... the 945 works fine
[07:41] <insmod> anyone know how to get bluetooth going?
[07:41] <ubuntu_> haha, a bit? its like 5-6 years old
[07:42] <bsundsrud> i was being nice.
[07:42] <dr_willis> bsundsrud,  with that logic - we could make due with embeded linux gizmos :0
[07:42] <insmod> i never used it before
[07:42] <dr_willis> heh heh
[07:42] <ubuntu_> so you think itll do beryl ok with a 3.6ghz, 1.5gb ram?
[07:42] <Lam_> how do i unzip from the command line?
[07:42] <bsundsrud> dr_willis: didnt say it was right for everyone :D
[07:42] <dr_willis> ubuntu_,  i jusdt saw a linxu site mentionign/reviewing that chipset
[07:42] <bsundsrud> ubuntu_: oh yeah.
[07:42] <bsundsrud> Lam_: unzip <file>
[07:43] <ubuntu_> so ill be seeing ablot better than 23fps?
[07:43] <bsundsrud> muhc
[07:43] <bsundsrud> er much
[07:43] <ubuntu_> good!
[07:43] <ubuntu_> i want to do some vid capture
[07:43] <insmod> what chip 945 ? it works great
[07:43] <Lam_> bsundsrud: thanks
[07:43] <ubuntu_> but if i do it now i drop to .5 fos
[07:43] <ubuntu_> fps*
[07:43] <dr_willis> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=720&num=1
[07:43] <dr_willis> Intel Q965 Graphics Performance
[07:44] <ubuntu_> thanks doc
[07:44] <dawn> Question: my drive light runs constantly, how do I see what processes are running
[07:44] <dawn> looking at my cpu, it is going up and down all the time
[07:44] <dr_willis> dont expect to be playing Quake4 with it :)
[07:44] <insmod> ubuntu_: intel 945? i use it
[07:44] <ubuntu_> i dont do games
[07:45] <bsundsrud> dawn: ksysguard is a nice GUI for checking that stuff, if you like the console, use top
[07:45] <ubuntu_> i just want to do some GOOD beryl,
[07:45] <dr_willis> their summary - good for 'real work' heh sort of.
[07:45] <dawn> thx
[07:45] <dr_willis> and it can do  some of the eye candy for beryl
[07:45] <dr_willis> but ifind Beryl and 'real work' conflict.
[07:45] <ubuntu_> well if i can do most beryl with a 845 im sure it can do better
[07:45] <ubuntu_> lol
[07:45] <dr_willis> I dont need Wiggly/Exploding windows.
[07:45] <ubuntu_> but its so fun
[07:46] <bsundsrud> dr_willis: of course! everyone knows only the burned-up windows actually increase productivity
[07:46] <ubuntu_> i never really understood the whole multipul desktops untill i saw it on a cube
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: the cube is nice for switching workspaces, but that's about it
[07:46] <insmod> ubuntu_: run the export INTEL_BATCH=
[07:46] <ubuntu_> insmod: i dont have a 945
[07:47] <insmod> ubuntu_: ah
[07:47] <ubuntu_> i was thinking of getting a mobo with it as the gfx chipset
[07:47] <ubuntu_> just wondering how it would do
[07:47] <insmod> :)
[07:47] <insmod> anyone wanna help with my bluetooth?
[07:47] <ubuntu_> mmm micro atx mobos
[07:48] <bsundsrud> insmod: I would, but i know little of bluetooth...
[07:49] <insmod> bsundsrud: i just can't get it to load the device hcx
[07:50] <NightVVulf> [simple question]  I can't seem to find a way to switch the mouse options for Konqueror so that I can double click to open instead of single click
[07:50] <bsundsrud> insmod: modprobe hcx? im really reaching here :)
[07:50] <dawn> how can I change su password?
[07:50] <bsundsrud> NightVVulf: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse tab -> change single click to double click
[07:51] <nixternal> dawn: su password is your user password
[07:51] <dawn> ok
[07:51] <NightVVulf> ah.. figured it would be something simple that I just missed.
[07:51] <bsundsrud> dawn: you want to create a superuser account, or change your sudo password?
[07:51] <dawn> ok but root?
[07:51] <nixternal> only way to change that would be to change your own password
[07:51] <nixternal> sudo passwd root
[07:51] <dawn> when I put in my pw it does not take it
[07:51] <dawn> ok
[07:52] <NightVVulf> thanks
[07:52] <nixternal> if it doesn't take your user password, either 1) you are typing the password wrong, or 2) you aren't in sudoers...3 would be a possible corrupted /etc/sudoers..but it would scream at you if it was
[07:53] <dawn> ok I changed my login pw earlier today
[07:53] <dawn> but when I try to sudo, it does not work
[07:53] <dawn> nixternal: ok
[07:53] <bsundsrud> which password are you trying to use for sudo?
[07:54] <dawn> same as mu login
[07:54] <dawn> which it was setup that way
[07:54] <dawn> I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that I changed it earlier today
[07:54] <nixternal> it shouldn't
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> dawn: did you ever create a root acct?
[07:54] <bsundsrud> perhaps, try the other password while you're at it :D
[07:54] <troy> hi all
[07:55] <nixternal> hiya troy
[07:55] <dawn> hitmanWilly: not to my recollection
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> dawn: try the old passwd then, see if it works
[07:57] <dawn> no
[07:57] <dawn> it failes...
[07:57] <dawn> hmmmmmm
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> dawn: you are typing in the correct case, right? passwds are case sensitive...
[07:59] <dawn> yes, i know that
[07:59] <dawn> I made sure of that before coming in here
[07:59] <dawn> :)
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> dawn: just making sure :)
[07:59] <dawn> only thing I did was chnage my pw
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> dawn: are you SURE you're typing it in right?
[08:01] <dawn> yes
[08:01] <dawn> let me logoff and then back on
[08:01] <dawn> is there a way to reset the SU pw?
[08:01] <bsundsrud> dawn: not really...
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> dawn: you could try changing your passwd again, see if it helps
, in  single mode
[08:02] <dawn> passwd dawn *password*
[08:02] <dawn> ?
[08:02] <bsundsrud> bah im an idiot.
[08:02] <troy> ))
[08:03] <troy> dawn, do you need erase your root pass?
[08:03] <dawn> I dont know yet
[08:03] <dawn> I just went to try to chnage my pw again for my user account and it wont let me
[08:03] <troy> dawn :) ok
[08:04] <hitmanWilly> dawn: just passwd dawn, then it should ask you for the new one
[08:04] <NightVVulf> is there a way to mount a drive manually but allow normal users to access it? I have a drive that can not be detected automatically, but when I mount it with the mount command it is only accessible by root. Leaving me without a way to access it within the GUI. I could make a root user... but I was trying to avoid having to log in as root every time I need to access it.
[08:04] <dawn> thats where I am at
[08:04] <dawn> authentication failure
[08:04] <dawn> wtf
[08:04] <dawn> brb
[08:04] <dawn> i am gonna logoff
[08:04] <dawn> then back
[08:04] <dawn> brbr
[08:05] <obvio171> NightVVulf: I think if users have read access to the folder where you mounted the drive, after you've mounted they can access it just like any other folder. I'm not sure though.
[08:05] <bsundsrud> NightVVulf: there is an option you can send to it to change the permissions on the mount, but I'm too stupid tonight and deferring to someone else so i dont hose your machine
[08:05] <carutsu> Kubuntu configures the buttons of the volume right however i do need accents such as  and by activating the combine key i can no longer change the volume with the custom keys built in the laptop, any ideas on how to solve it
[08:05] <carutsu> ?
[08:05] <dr_willis> NightVVulf,  set up fstab with the proper 'umask, user, and users' option
[08:05] <jbrouhard> What's the *buntu equivalent of usbusers in /etc/group ?
[08:06] <dr_willis> NightVVulf,  if its a ntfs/vfat drive/partition - you MUST set up the proper umask at least.  :)
[08:06] <dr_willis> night all
[08:06] <NightVVulf> mmm... yeah ... if you mount it to a location that is accessible by a user... that location is no longer accessible by the user until you unmount.
[08:06] <carutsu> it is a Hp-Compaq nx7400
[08:07] <dr_willis> NightVVulf,  if you mount a filesustem to a diretory. the stuff in that directory is basicially 'hidden' untill unmounted.
[08:07] <NightVVulf> though I'm rather new at Linux... and have no idea where to start with fstab. any good sites with info on setting up the umask options
[08:07] <dr_willis> google for ntfs/mount/linux - for a start
[08:07] <dr_willis> Mounting of drives is one of those things everyone should know.
[08:07] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[08:07] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:07] <dr_willis> some of the wiki/ubuntu docs are not very broad however. heh
[08:07] <dr_willis> !mount
[08:08] <ubotwo> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:08] <troy> who's know: where's stardict keep dictionaries?
[08:08] <dr_willis> !fstab
[08:08] <ubotwo> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:08] <dr_willis> well night all
[08:08] <carutsu> anyone?
[08:12] <bsundsrud> carutsu: I'm not certain, but maybe changing keyboard layouts would help you
[08:12] <dawn> ok I fixed that
[08:13] <dawn> I forget I changed it to aalphanumeric pw and not straight letters
[08:13] <dawn> duh
[08:14] <dawn> no to figure out what app is running and slowing down my machine
[08:14] <dawn> *now
[08:14] <troy> where's stardict keep dictionaries?
[08:14] <troy> i;m find now ((
[08:15] <carutsu> bsundsrud: how?... I use accents so I use combine but that took out my custom volume buttons, how will layouts help? how do i do it?
[08:15] <bsundsrud> system settings -> uh, regional and something? -> keyboard layouts
[08:16] <bsundsrud> trust me, i do this to get all my laptop keys working together (Compaq v3000z)
[08:17] <bsundsrud> enable layouts, and try an HP one at random. I'm currently using Compaq internet keyboard (18 keys)
[08:17] <carutsu> bsundsrud: I did active that way, I actived KXB, but that exactly disabled my keys to turn up or down the volume
[08:17] <dawn> !ksmserver
[08:17] <ubotwo> ksmserver - session manager for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[08:18] <carutsu> bsundsrud:  the problem is that it's an english keyboard and i need some characters that aren't there, h and is a laptop btw
[08:19] <bsundsrud> carutsu: hmm, im really not sure what to tell you. I know you can set it up so that Caps Lock becomes the combine key though...
[08:19] <bsundsrud> its something to do with xmodmap, but i really haven't messed with it.
[08:20] <carutsu> bsundsrud: i do have, that disabled those keys u_u
[08:20] <bsundsrud> hah.  so i take it your volume is a FN+somekey combination, and not dedicated buttons?
[08:20] <carutsu> bsundsrud: oh well, that and my resolution were the problems with my new laptop
[08:21] <dawn> thx for all the help
[08:21] <carutsu> bsundsrud: nop, dedicated buttons
[08:21] <dawn> I still cannot figure out what process is working my cpu so hard
[08:21] <bsundsrud> so is it a certain keyboard layout that you have to use?
[08:21] <bsundsrud> dawn: have you tried top?
[08:21] <bsundsrud> that sorts by CPU usage
[08:21] <carutsu> bsundsrud: I use the US layout but with XKB activated
[08:21] <dawn> I am now
[08:21] <dawn> I forgot about aht
[08:21] <carutsu> !XKB
[08:21] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[08:22] <bsundsrud> carutsu: whats your keyboard model in layouts?
[08:23] <dawn> ok I am not sure on how to read this output, bsundsrud
[08:23] <carutsu> bsundsrud: the layout? US English
[08:24] <bsundsrud> carutsu: no, the keyboard model.  If you're in the layout GUI, its above the listbox with active layouts in it
[08:24] <chuen> Can someone help me with a boot problem please?
[08:24] <chuen> This happened immediately after I tried installing GDE.
[08:24] <bsundsrud> dawn: you should just be worried about the PU column
[08:24] <carutsu> bsundsrud: wait somehow cant open kcontrol
[08:24] <dawn> which one is that
[08:24] <bsundsrud> do it from a term, sudo kcontrol
[08:25] <dawn> is it is  not listed
[08:25] <carutsu> bsundsrud: its installing something, wait a sec
[08:25] <bsundsrud> when you run 'top'?
[08:25] <dawn> yes
[08:25] <bsundsrud> dawn: what do you see? i see a few lines of info, then a bunch of rows of running processes
[08:25] <dawn> for instance, 4031   root 15 0 41540 27m 4036 S
[08:25] <bsundsrud> make your term bigger?
[08:26] <dawn> cpu only shows as being 6%
[08:26] <dawn> but drive is very active
[08:26] <bsundsrud> hm.
[08:26] <dawn> has to be a program
[08:26] <dawn> misconfigured
[08:27] <bsundsrud> you have beagle running?
[08:27] <chuen> Anyone?
[08:27] <bsundsrud> chuen: whats GDE?
[08:27] <dawn> i was just thinking that
[08:27] <chuen> Gnome Desktop Environment.
[08:27] <troy> chuen, i'm gonna listen
[08:27] <chuen> Thx
[08:27] <dawn> doesn;t show being installed
[08:27] <dawn> but like my try from cmdline
[08:27] <carutsu> omg, what now? it says the MIME type cnat be found aplication/octect-stream
[08:28] <troy> chuen, GDE = KDE?
[08:28] <bsundsrud> carutsu: is your place of residence built upon ancient burial mounds?
[08:28] <dawn> beagle is not installed
[08:28] <dawn> thats what I thought
[08:28] <bsundsrud> chuen: you want #ubuntu or #gnome, this is for kubuntu, which uses KDE
[08:28] <carutsu> bsundsrud: xD no as far as i know
[08:28] <chuen> OK After installing that (using Adept) , when I went to reboot my PC stapped at the word 'boot' (after loading kernel etc. and before the splash screen would have normally come up)
[08:28] <flake> can't believe starcraft 3 is coming out, after all these years
[08:29] <bsundsrud> flake: you skipped a number.
[08:29] <chuen> bdundrud: Yes Kubuntu is my default OS :)
[08:29] <flake> doh
[08:29] <flake> i meant to say that in the future
[08:29] <chuen> So, I eneterd the menu (using 'escape) and selected a normal boot with one of the 3 kernels listed there
[08:29] <chuen> this works fine.
[08:29] <carutsu> bsundsrud: thank you, for today it'll be over
[08:29] <carutsu> bsundsrud: i gotta sleep
[08:30] <bsundsrud> carutsu: try opening it from the command line
[08:30] <bsundsrud> NVM, sleep now, sweetprince.
[08:30] <carutsu> bsundsrud: xDDD
[08:30] <flake> any word on qw et
[08:30] <bsundsrud> bah jokes ruined by lack of spaces.
[08:30] <chuen> The only clue I have is that it *wont* boot up if I choose kernel 2.3.17-11, but will run with 17-10.
[08:30] <bsundsrud> qw?
[08:30] <flake> quakewars
[08:30] <troy> chuen, you installed new kernel?
[08:31] <carutsu> see you around
[08:31] <bsundsrud> chuen: in the grub menu, with 17-11 highlighted, press 'e' and remove 'quiet' or 'silent' and 'splash' from the line that begins /boot/vmlinuz... and press enter. then press b. you should at least see an error.
[08:31] <chuen> Not AFAIK. When I looked at the menu, there was a choice of 4 kernels and I was advised (here) to try 17.10
[08:31] <chuen> which worked.
[08:32] <bsundsrud> troy: i ignored an easy solution again, didnt I?
[08:32] <chuen> bsundrud: I'm afraid that's a bit beyone me (I mean I can edit it, if you tell me where to fing it!)
[08:32] <troy> bsundsrud, i don't think so ))))
[08:33] <bsundsrud> chuen: when you're at the grub menu, selecting which kernel to boot, select the one that wont boot and press e
[08:33] <chuen> bsundrud: Oh, OK.
[08:33] <bsundsrud> next, highlight the line that starts with /boot/vmlinuz and hit e again
[08:33] <chuen> I'll reboot and get back to you.
[08:33] <bsundsrud> then remove the silent and splash stuff. it should give you all text
[08:34] <bsundsrud> i forget if its silent or quiet.
[08:34] <bsundsrud> its late and my level of caring is dipping.
[08:34] <KevinAlaska> if a file starts with ._ does that mean it has been deleted?
[08:34] <chuen> bsundrud: OK, I'll try that, thx.
[08:34] <chuen> bsundrud: I understand. It's early here (London).
[08:35] <bsundsrud> chuen: also, start typing a name and press tab. it will complete it
[08:35] <bsundsrud> dont ever for get that s again.
[08:35] <bsundsrud> :)
[08:35] <KevinAlaska> London.. eight hours ahead of me. :)
[08:35] <bsundsrud> chuen: its late here (Minnesota)
[08:35] <chuen> bsundrud: OK, if you're still here when I've tried it, I'll report back.
[08:35] <bsundsrud> k
[08:36] <mdeanda> hi all. strange problem i'm getting. kubuntu used to work fine but now my kde session doesn't seem to finish starting up? i've deleted my .kde folder a few times. it doesn't get to the system tray stuff and right clicking on desktop (kwin) doesn't show context menu. any ideas?
[08:36] <chuen> bsundrud: Yes, I appreciate that most of the people here now are way past their bedtimes!
[08:36] <bsundsrud> chuen: haha im working on other stuff too, not THAT pathetic...
[08:36] <bsundsrud> well, lets not go there.
[08:36] <troy> bsundsrud, i'm entered in grub menu few days later, when i load in single mode (forget root pass) :))
[08:37] <chuen> bsundrud: LOL. Maybe I should have tried at a more 'civilised' hour :)
[08:37] <chuen> bsundrud: civilized even ;)
[08:37] <bsundsrud> mdeanda: did you delete ~/.kderc while you were at it?
[08:37] <bsundsrud> civili(s|z)ed is a matter of opinion :)
[08:38] <chuen> bsundrud:  :)
[08:38] <bsundsrud> troy: thats right. keep rubbing it in.
[08:38] <mdeanda> no, i suppose i'll try that.. actually system tray did finally show up, but the icon/program that loads up my wireless didn't show up.
[08:38] <KevinAlaska> no idea mdeanda... I wish I had the experience to help you on that one. :(
[08:38] <KevinAlaska> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[08:38] <mdeanda> i did install the pptp packages but i don't see how that would cause this.
[08:39] <bsundsrud> hm. shouldnt
[08:39] <bsundsrud> chuen: you better go quick if you want me to still be here :)
[08:40] <mdeanda> does anybody know where kde gets the default set of program to launch when a new .kde folder (profile?) is created? b/c it already launches the battery thing and acpi causes stuff to appear in kde without me doing anything
[08:40] <bsundsrud> 2AM CST rolls around and im out like the fat kid in dodgeball.
[08:41] <bsundsrud> mdeanda: depends on the distro, and im not sure where kubuntu keeps it (stuff like knetworkmanager and etc)
[08:43] <mdeanda> bsundsrud: i finally found something useful, i did a ps aux | grep net and found a bunch of network manager programs running.. and one had <defunct> (thought i thought i grepped for defunc before..)
[08:43] <bsundsrud> mdeanda: ah. that could cause problems
[08:45] <felipe_> hola
[08:46] <felipe_> alguien habla espaol?
[08:46] <mdeanda> si
[08:46] <bsundsrud> nein, sprechen Sie Deutsch?
[08:47] <felipe_> acabo de instalar Kubuntu y he tenido algunos problemas
[08:47] <dogatemycomputer> !en
[08:47] <ubotwo> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:47] <dogatemycomputer> !es
[08:47] <ubotwo> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:51] <mdeanda> ehh, i somehow broke knetworkmanager and i can't even kill it :(
[08:51] <chuen> bsundrud: Hi. I edited the line and still no boot - and no errors.
[08:51] <bsundsrud> chuen: no output even?
[08:52] <chuen> bsundrud: Nope. Just moved on to the line 'boot' and stopped (IYSWIM)
[08:53] <bsundsrud> IDSWYM
[08:53] <chuen> bsundrud: Tell you what, I'll ask here later as at least I can access my system!
[08:53] <bsundsrud> haha ok... hold on. lemme double check one thing with you
[08:53] <chuen> bsudrud: OK, output stops at the 'boot' command.
[08:53] <hyper_ch> bonjour HymnToLife
[08:54] <bsundsrud> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 ro root=LABEL=/1 splash quiet (this is the line you started with.  cept, ignore the Fedora kernel ;))
[08:54] <chuen> bsundrud: I think the only other lines that appear before that are something like: initrd: /boot/initrd.img
[08:55] <bsundsrud> you changed it to: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 ro root=LABEL=/1
[08:55] <bsundsrud> ?
[08:55] <chuen> bsundrud: and 'save default'
[08:55] <bsundsrud> and pressed enter, then 'b'?
[08:55] <chuen> bsundrud: then 'boot'
[08:55] <chuen> bsundrud: Yes.
[08:56] <chuen> bsundrud: it just had 'ro' at the end of the line.
[08:56] <LinkCanabico> hi everybody i was wandering if someone knows a movie manager/database/organizer for linux
[08:56] <bsundsrud> and it takes you out of grub but then just displays the rest of the boot stanza?
[08:56] <chuen> bsundrud: yes.
[08:57] <bsundsrud> hmm
[08:57] <bsundsrud> does the initrd file exist? does the vmlinuz file exist?
[08:57] <bsundsrud> does everything but the version match the boot stanza that works?
[08:57] <bsundsrud> open /boot/grub/menu.lst to check
[08:57] <blackflag> does someone kow if there is a directory-server planned for ubuntu-server?
[08:57] <bsundsrud> and initrd would be in /boot
[08:57] <chuen> bsundsrud: OK
[08:59] <bsundsrud> chuen: sorry, its 2am and i swore i was leaving then.  good luck to you. Try asking again later if you still have problems
[08:59] <hyper_ch> blackflag: whats a directory server?
[08:59] <chuen> bsundrud: Appreciate it - thx again.
[08:59] <bsundsrud> you're welcome.
[09:00] <blackflag> LDAP
[09:00] <blackflag> sometting like directory server from M$
[09:01] <blackflag> active directory server from M$
[09:01] <blackflag> I know that suse has something like this
[09:01] <hyper_ch> use ldap
[09:01] <mdeanda> is that mostly to share user logins or what?
[09:02] <blackflag> centralized user management
[09:02] <mdeanda> so like nis?
[09:03] <blackflag> yes
[09:03] <blackflag> it should be for heterogen networks
[09:03] <flake> is there a batch audio to ogg converter available
[09:03] <troy> does anybody trying to configure Radeon X1300 Pro in Kubuntu?
[09:03] <blackflag> so you can manage M$ and linux clients
[09:03] <mdeanda> if anybody was following.. i was having trouble starting kde.. it turns out gnome-keyring-d is going(?) defunct. any ideas?
[09:04] <^RiaN^> yesssssssss
[09:04] <troy> mdeanda install linux again ))
[09:04] <^RiaN^> a've done my ragnarok online
[09:05] <^RiaN^> now i can play ragnarok
[09:05] <^RiaN^> :D
[09:06] <flake> ragnarok?   have you tried Thang online?
[09:06] <mdeanda> troy: but i just installed kubuntu twice in 3 weeks.. slackware lasts me much longer than this.. :( but kubuntu sets up my laptop much better
[09:06] <^RiaN^> not yet
[09:06] <^RiaN^> now im going to try install gunbound
[09:07] <troy> mdeanda i ve been installed ms windows twice in day ))
[09:07] <hiturunk> Heya!
[09:07] <hyper_ch> mdeanda: you use kubuntu? what do you have gnome-keyrin-d?
[09:08] <hiturunk> I need some media help, Anyone know of a media player that will play WMVs and AVIs?
[09:08] <^RiaN^> mdeanda: try visit www.baliwae.com
[09:08] <mdeanda> hyper_ch: idunno.. hehe.. i think pptpclient installed it or something. or it could have been the mysql tools
[09:08] <mdeanda> ^RiaN^: is that a picture of you?
[09:08] <troy> hiturunk mplayer can
[09:09] <^RiaN^> what picture
[09:09] <^RiaN^> www.toko.baliwae.com
[09:09] <drarem> i need a batch mp3/wma to ogg converter, any recommendations?
[09:09] <^RiaN^> no, it's not me
[09:09] <hvralpha> I have a new intel duo notebook with a 945 video adapter. A clean install of Kubuntu loads a i810 adapter. Does anybody know where the change this setting in the files?
[09:09] <hyper_ch> drarem: you dno't want to convert them
[09:09] <hiturunk> I have mplayer installed..
[09:09] <crimsun> hvralpha: that's the correct driver.
[09:09] <hiturunk> But it won't play them.
[09:10] <troy> hiturunk essentials can help you :)
[09:10] <mdeanda> hiturunk: is the wmv drm'ed?
[09:10] <drarem> why not, hyper
[09:10] <hiturunk> No.
[09:10] <troy> i'm come back in1 hour
[09:10] <hiturunk> I don't do data rights managment.
[09:10] <hiturunk> xD
[09:10] <hvralpha> crimsun, pls explain
[09:11] <^RiaN^> mdeanda: visit toko.baliwae.com
[09:11] <mdeanda> ^RiaN^: what's there?
[09:11] <^RiaN^> many
[09:11] <^RiaN^> jus go there
[09:12] <hiturunk> Okay, the error I get when trying to play is...Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[09:12] <mdeanda> hiturunk: try mplayer -vo help
[09:12] <hyper_ch> drarem: why do you want to convert them?
[09:12] <hiturunk> ?
[09:13] <drarem> get everything in one format, maybe better compression?
[09:14] <drarem> but i understand ogg isn't everywhere either
[09:14] <^RiaN^> mdeanda: toko.baliwae.com is online stor in bali
[09:14] <hyper_ch> drarem: using a lot of quality?
[09:14] <^RiaN^> mdeanda: toko.baliwae.com is online store in bali
[09:14] <mdeanda> drarem: not a bash guru, but you can probably do something like: find | xargs oggenc -q 9
[09:15] <drarem> not really, dont have the equipment to play quality
[09:15] <mdeanda> ^RiaN^: why do i care about an online store in bali?
[09:15] <hyper_ch> drarem: neither mp3 nor wma are lossless formats... when you convert them they will be "compressed" again and you will loss again quite a bit of quality...
[09:15] <hiturunk> >_< Gah, it said to re-compile it, I'll just use wine to emulate it.
[09:16] <drarem> oh
[09:16] <mdeanda> is there a way to figure out why gnome-keyring got installed?
[09:16] <Jucato> mdeanda: /var/log/dpkg.log or something
[09:16] <hyper_ch> mdeanda: by telling what you all did install on your computer :)
[09:19] <mdeanda> omg.. this is lame.. (or maybe its me)
[09:19] <mdeanda> i did: apt-get -s remove gnome-keyring
[09:20] <mdeanda> and it wants to remove: mysql-query-browser, dvd95, network-manager-pptp libgtkhtml....
[09:20] <mdeanda> is that because keyring is a dependency of those programs?
[09:21] <mdeanda> in the past, i've removed some kde program, (that i manually installed after kde was running) and it went ahead and removed all of kde :( :( :(
[09:22] <drarem> hyper - would drm info take up a bit of unneeded space
[09:22] <Jucato> mdeanda: apparently, it is. you can always check with "apt-cache depends <package>" to see what a package depends on
[09:24] <mdeanda> but it seems to me that removing something that has some dependencies will cause it to remove those dependencies? so like, kwrite depends on kdebase or something, so removing kwrite would also remove kdebase?
[09:30] <hiturunk> >:| Mplayer is sucking for me..
[09:31] <mdeanda> Jucato: can this be a reason why gnome-keyring is failing: from apt-cache i get a dependency problem from libgnome-keyring:
[09:31] <mdeanda> Depends: mono: classlib-1.0
[09:31] <hyper_ch> hiturunk: use vlc
[09:32] <drarem> vlc rocks
[09:32] <hyper_ch> vlc was my default video player in windoze
[09:32] <hyper_ch> its my default one in linux
[09:33] <hiturunk> VLC?
[09:33] <truent> theres no easy way to remove all the programs that come with kubuntu desktop if need be is there?
[09:33] <hiturunk> Yeah there is
[09:33] <hiturunk> click the start menu icon and click add/remove programs.
[09:33] <hiturunk> xD
[09:34] <hyper_ch> hiturunk: not add/remove... using psychocats list on removing/addin desktops through apt-get
[09:34] <hyper_ch> !info vlc
[09:34] <ubotwo> vlc - multimedia player and streamer - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[09:34] <drarem> slaps hiturunk with a wet fish - it's the K menu icon
[09:34] <truent> ahh yeah ive seen lists to remove with apt-get
[09:35] <hyper_ch> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ --> playing around section
[09:35] <drarem> I've installed so much stuff I get overwhelmed as to what I don't need :/
[09:35] <truent> i tried kubuntu... i liked the configurability.. and willing to try again.. just scared i'll not be able to get rid of the clutter if i have to
[09:36] <hyper_ch> get xfce
[09:36] <felzix> would an xfce install mean xorg uses up less memory than kde?
[09:36] <truent> nah i got that on a wack laptop of my friends.. and i put xfce+gentoo on my old xbox.. (eheh.) ...
[09:36] <truent> i got gnome.. and run beryl.. i like the eyecandy too much
[09:37] <truent> like the kde though.. just alot of weird programs to get used to
[09:37] <truent> ive used gnome since 99ish
[09:39] <hiturunk> I just noticed, Adept is exactly like click n' run.
[09:39] <hiturunk> xD
[09:55] <hiturunk> Okay, I've got VLC, ANd it's awesome, plays all the video formats I could ever want...but is there a way to make mono the default audio instead of stereo?
[10:11] <troy> does anybody trying to configure Radeon X1300 Pro in Kubuntu 7.04
[10:11] <troy> ?
[10:12] <atidem> hello
[10:12] <troy> atidem hu
[10:18] <binks_> hiturunk_: you got a vlc problem
[10:19] <monzie> hi all
[10:19] <moralless> really quick, would installing kde4 from the repositories overwrite my kde3 installation?
[10:19] <monzie> i want to import vim71 project into kdevelop
[10:19] <monzie> can someone help please?
[10:20] <binks_> monzie: /j #kdevelop  << join this chan
[10:21] <monzie> binks_: asked, but got no response.. i am on kubuntu so asked here
[10:21] <jk> did anyone else notice problems with the kde 3.5.7 kdelibs4c2a package? (It seems to be missing the /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4 symlink, the /usr/lib/libkio.so.4 symlink and real file) and /usr/lib/libkparts.so.2
[10:22] <binks_> this is more an os chan sorry i dont no vim71
[10:22] <nuu> jk: please ask in #kde and if you're sure it's a bug, please take the time to file one on launchpad
[10:23] <nuu> if you're not sure it's a bug, but you can't get an answer, then use the "question" feature instead of the bug report one in launchpad
[10:23] <jk> ok, will do, thanks
[10:24] <nuu> np
[10:25] <nuu> monzie: there are vi-dedicated channels in this same network
[10:25] <nuu> try #vim or something like that
[10:25] <nuu> #vi maybe....not sure
[10:25] <monzie> nuu: ok
[10:35] <hiturunk_> ..
[10:37] <troy_castorkin> hiturunk_ find essentials?
[10:41] <defcon_> im having problems running kde, it says when I login i need to set my permissions to my $home directory correctly, what is correct?
[10:43] <troy_castorkin> defcon_ permission for your user
[10:43] <troy_castorkin> defcon_ rwx
[10:43] <defcon_> i have 777 set on everything
[10:44] <defcon_> and kde pops up saying I need to change permissions
[10:44] <defcon_> and it keeps telling me to chmod 644 .dmrc
[10:44] <troy_castorkin> defcon_ 777 for all?
[10:44] <defcon_> troy_castorkin, yes
[10:44] <troy_castorkin> defcon_ hmm
[10:45] <defcon_> it says I should set permissions so I can access them and other users cant
[10:45] <defcon_> or something
[10:46] <troy_castorkin> defcon_ and you can't access in ~?
[10:46] <defcon_> yes I can, quick question does kde run as root?
[10:47] <Ace2016> defcon_: it does, but you should never do it
[10:47] <defcon_> drwx------ 54 defcon defcon  4096 2007-05-26 01:33 defcon
[10:47] <defcon_> is that ok
[10:47] <defcon_> I just did 700
[10:47] <defcon_> should I chmod * in my home to 700
[10:48] <defcon_> will that effect anything
[10:48] <Ace2016> defcon_: run as a normal user, and if you want say kate, or konqueror to run as root, then use ALT+F2, and add kdesu to the front of the name, e.g kdesu kate, or kdesu konqueror
[10:48] <defcon_> ic
[10:48] <Ace2016> defcon_: what happened? the settings should be fine by default
[10:48] <defcon_> I keep getting a stupid popup
[10:48] <Ace2016> what does it say?
[10:49] <defcon_> every time I login it says chmod 644 .dmdr
[10:49] <Ace2016> did you run a command using sudo? e.g sudo konqueror which messed up your permissions
[10:49] <defcon_> no
[10:49] <defcon_> .dmrc
[10:49] <juan278> can kubuntu boot without /tmp
[10:50] <defcon_> everything in my $home should be owned by me and be in my group correct
[10:52] <defcon_> goin to try this again
[10:52] <defcon_> brb
[10:54] <thotel2> hello
[10:54] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 hi
[10:55] <thotel2> hi troy_castorkin are you an expert on partition management?
[10:55] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 nop...what's problem? :)
[10:55] <thotel2> this is my hd current situation:
[10:55] <thotel2> [img] http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/palemmo/guida/gparted1.png[/img] 
[10:55] <thotel2> I want to resize the hda1 ext3 containing kubuntu(home and root) togheter, in order to use all the unallocated space. But to act on ext3 I have to umount it, so I must use a live linux...but also with live kubu the situation does't change.... How can I?
[10:55] <thotel2> Selecting the ext3 as you can see all the buttons are disabled:
[10:55] <thotel2> [IMG] http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/palemmo/guida/gparted2.png[/IMG] 
[10:55] <thotel2> thanks
[10:56] <defcon_> fixed
[10:56] <defcon_> ok how do I get firestarter to run without me entering the sudo password each time
[10:57] <thotel2> troy_castorkin: can you help me?
[10:58] <troy_castorkin> hmmm
[10:58] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 live-cd?
[10:58] <klabezo> hiiiiii all how ru
[10:59] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 did you try live-cd?
[10:59] <thotel2> yes
[10:59] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 and?
[10:59] <thotel2> was blocked too
[10:59] <klabezo> i want to ask you about something
[11:00] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 mount ext3 part for write
[11:00] <klabezo> how can I install emacs editor for kubuntu
[11:00] <troy_castorkin> ?
[11:00] <thotel2> be easy I'm not an expert
[11:00] <^RiaN^> troy_castorkin: can u help me
[11:01] <thotel2> troy_castorkin: using the live cd
[11:01] <kumamoto> klabezo: sudo aptitude install emacs
[11:01] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 boot with live-cd and mount ext 3
[11:01] <kumamoto> !emacs
[11:01] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[11:01] <thotel2> ah
[11:01] <thotel2> that's clear
[11:01] <thotel2> and than?
[11:02] <thotel2> umount?
[11:02] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 what's mean clear/
[11:02] <troy_castorkin> ?
[11:02] <tmbg> tmbg@kory:~/Desktop$ pornview; gtkxine: auto-detecting video driver... ; Segmentation fault (core dumped) <--- anyone with ANY idea what's up with that, /msg me
[11:02] <thotel2> is not true that to operate on a partition this should be umounted?
[11:03] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 i can't understand you? i think that partition must be mount befor changes ))
[11:04] <Ace2016> defcon_: use "ls -l .dmrc" to check the permissions of the file, mine is -rwxrwxrwx 1 ace ace 26 2007-04-06 16:23 .dmrc
[11:04] <^RiaN^> who's here already install gunbound
[11:05] <thotel2> listen on sda1 there is the current kubuntu...the only thing that i want is expand sda1 and have more space...but to operate on sda1 this should be umounted not?
[11:05] <Ace2016> thotel2: are you expanding it in qtparted?
[11:05] <thotel2> yes
[11:05] <thotel2> also
[11:05] <thotel2> cause I have le kubuntu live
[11:06] <Ace2016> thotel2: to expand and shrink partitions they have to be unmounted, didn't the dialogue in qtparted tell you that?
[11:06] <troy_castorkin> Ace2016 he cant'  cuz this curred linux ext3 partition
[11:06] <thotel2> in fact
[11:06] <troy_castorkin> Ace2016 *current
[11:06] <thotel2> but in a live execution sda1 should be umounted not?
[11:07] <klabezo> i want to know how can i download and install emacs
[11:07] <Ace2016> should be unmounted if your shrinking or expanding it
[11:07] <thotel2> http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/palemmo/guida/gparted2.png
[11:07] <thotel2> Ace2016: here is my gparted image
[11:07] <reldruh> klabezo: have you tried installing it with adept?
[11:08] <Ace2016> thotel2: gparted? isn't that ubuntu?
[11:08] <klabezo> no i have no idia about it
[11:09] <thotel2> i know...i have installed it....on the currente kubuntu there is gparted...while in live editione there will be qtparted
[11:09] <reldruh> klabezo: OK, first open up the K- menu. Adept should be the first entry in the system folder
[11:09] <Ace2016> klabezo: add and remove programs in the start menu
[11:09] <klabezo> ok
[11:09] <klabezo> but dose it as a part of the kubuntu dest ??
[11:10] <Ace2016> i think its from the repos
[11:10] <klabezo> i search about it in the cd i found nothing
[11:11] <thotel2> nothing?
[11:11] <klabezo> nothing about emacs
[11:11] <reldruh> klabezo: Adept will find it and install it from wherever it's most readily available
[11:12] <Jucato> klabezo: no, it's not in the CD's. you have to install it using the online repositorires (use Add/Remove or Adept Manager)
[11:12] <defcon_> how do I autostart programs like firestarter without requiring a root password?
[11:12] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 i think you cant' under current linux resize your partition
[11:12] <klabezo> i have no internet connection in the pc i want to install it
[11:13] <Ace2016> defcon_: add the nopassword option for that command into your /etc/passwd
[11:13] <thotel2> that is what i said....:(
[11:13] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 i think it can  be only under live-cd
[11:13] <klabezo> i want a .deb file or any other way to download it
[11:13] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 i haven't livecd?
[11:13] <defcon_> Ace2016, nopassword option?
[11:13] <troy_castorkin> thotel2 you haven't livecd?
[11:13] <defcon_> after than how do I start it up auto
[11:14] <thotel2> gparted or qtparted give an error message if I tray to operate on a mounted partition
[11:14] <Ace2016> thotel2: then unmount it
[11:15] <thotel2> so Ace2016 you suggest to mount and than umount?
[11:15] <troy_castorkin> Ace2016 how he can unmounted current ext3 part in linux?
[11:15] <thotel2> in a live execution
[11:15] <thotel2> that is obvious
[11:16] <Ace2016> defcon_: open /etc/sudoers using kdesu kwrite, add username ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firestarter, replace username with your username
[11:16] <thotel2> i tray this
[11:16] <thotel2> bye
[11:16] <Ace2016> bye
[11:16] <troy_castorkin> live execution = boot from live-cd
[11:16] <troy_castorkin> ?
[11:19] <Ace2016> troy_castorkin: yea he was using the live-cd
[11:22] <troy_castorkin> Ace2016 ))))
[11:26] <defcon_> Ace2016, now that I edited my visudo file/sudoers file how do I set firestarter to autostart
[11:30] <marko> can we use http://recaptcha.net to translate strings ?
[11:41] <JohnFlux_> I have a DVD that I cannot play
[11:41] <JohnFlux_> I've gotten 2 replacements, and none of them work
[11:41] <JohnFlux_> the DVD isn't recognised
[11:42] <ubuntu_> do you have the codecs?
[11:42] <JohnFlux_> mplayer just says device not found, for example
[11:42] <ubuntu_> !dvd
[11:42] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:42] <JohnFlux_> I have no problems with any other dvds
[11:42] <JohnFlux_> just not this particular dvd
[11:42] <ubuntu_> "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2"
[11:42] <JohnFlux_> i have 3 copies of this same dvd (I complained twice)
[11:42] <ubuntu_> oh, so you have thoes?
[11:42] <JohnFlux_> ubuntu: are you listening to me? :)
[11:42] <JohnFlux_> :-)
[11:43] <ubuntu_> are you answering my question?
[11:43] <JohnFlux_> yes, every other dvd's work fine
[11:43] <ubuntu_> so you installed the codecs?
[11:43] <JohnFlux_> :-)
[11:43] <JohnFlux_> yes
[11:43] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:43] <ubuntu_> DRM on the DVD?
[11:43] <JohnFlux_> yeah I think it's some crappy protection
[11:44] <ubuntu_> what are you using to play the DVD?
[11:45] <JohnFlux_> mplayer, but the dvd isn't being recognised as being inserted
[11:45] <JohnFlux_> cat /dev/hdc
[11:45] <JohnFlux_> cat: /dev/hdc: No medium found
[11:45] <JohnFlux_> hdc is the dvd drive
[11:46] <ubuntu_> bad DVD?
[11:46] <JohnFlux_> I've got 3 copies of this 1 dvd
[11:46] <JohnFlux_> I complained twice about bad copies
[11:47] <Ace2016> defcon: install kcontrol-autostart then you'll be able to make new startup items in kcontrol, add kdesu firestarter to run on startup
[11:47] <blackflag> !slp
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <defcon> Ace2016, thankyou
[11:47] <binks_> is the begginer tutorial for kdevelop a good place to start for me if i never programmed c++ before
[11:47] <blackflag> !openslp
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openslp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <ubuntu_> do you think i would get better fps in beryl using a ati radeon 7000ve or a intel 845?
[11:48] <Jucato> binks_: hm... might be good to start learning C++ independently of an IDE first. just a plain text editor will do while you're still learning
[11:48] <Ace2016> binks_: have a look at http://www.kdevelop.org/
[11:48] <JohnFlux_> ubuntu: ati is evil.
[11:49] <JohnFlux_> ubuntu_: their drivers are the worst of them all
[11:49] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: >IF<  you get it to work, the ati, otherwise the intel
[11:49] <ubuntu_> well im using the ati now
[11:49] <ubuntu_> its so old it cant use flgrx
[11:49] <ubuntu_> it is the oldest ati card supported in linux, period
[11:49] <binks_> Ace2016: Jucato cheers any idea of a good place to start i already done a little vb in doze but want a nix language and then a gui creating tool
[11:50] <ubuntu_> 64mb
[11:50] <ubuntu_> agp
[11:50] <ubuntu_> so would that be better than the chipset gfx? i know it isnt better than the new 945's but i dont know about the 845's
[11:50] <Jucato> (well, c++ isn't really just a *nix language....but...)
[11:51] <binks_> Jucato: im an open book what do you suggest
[11:51] <Ace2016> qt4 for gui apps, since they'll run on windows too
[11:51] <binks_> all i want is to be able to create gui ,s  for cmd line apps
[11:51] <Jucato> binks_: oh C++ is fine. I'm just clarifiying that it's not really a language just for *nix :)
[11:52] <Jucato> binks_: some links that might help (maybe) http://del.icio.us/jucato/"C++"
[11:52] <binks_> Jucato: yes i no but its better than vb
[11:53] <binks_> Ace2016: is there a good begginer tut for qt4 yet as i never programmed in qt b4
[11:53] <Jucato> binks_: as for the GUI part, there is no exact 1:1 counterpart of VB for C++. I mean that you will have to learn another library on top of C++ to be able to make GUI's
[11:53] <Jucato> so you will have to learn C++ then the GUI toolkit library of your choice
[11:53] <binks_> i was considering PyQt4 but cant find a starter tutorial that  is from the ground up
[11:54] <Jucato> well, PyQt is the Python bindings (wrapper) for Qt
[11:54] <Jucato> so you'll have to learn Python
[11:54] <binks_> how long does the average person take to learn c++
[11:54] <JohnFlux_> PyQt is fairly nice place to start
[11:54] <JohnFlux_> binks_: how long does it take to learn math? :)
[11:54] <Jucato> binks_: http://www.research.att.com/~bs/bs_faq.html#How-long
[11:54] <binks_> i read that python is easier to learn coz its readable
[11:54] <JohnFlux_> binks_: depends how good you want to be really
[11:55] <kraut> moin
[11:55] <Ace2016> short answer is you never stop learning, sure you can learn the syntax but you'll always find cool ways to use it
[11:56] <binks_> oooh choices so many roads which to take sigh
[11:56] <^RiaN^> hii alll
[11:57] <binks_> Jucato: nice link cheers for that
[11:57] <binks_> Jucato: nice links cheers for that
[11:57] <binks_> lol
[11:57] <Jucato> :)
[11:58] <Jucato> my road has been a bit easier to choose :)
[11:58] <Jucato> C++ -> Qt -> KDE :D
[11:58] <binks_> ideal would be c++ but the learning curve scares me abit im 36 now so not a spring chicken
[11:59] <^RiaN^> someone one which the best beetween crossover pro and crossover server
[12:00] <Jucato> binks_: the only learning curve you get from C++ if you've never programmed (properly) before would be the learning curve that comes from learning programming concepts. of course there's the object-oriented programming learning curve too
[12:01] <blackflag> !zeroconf
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zeroconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <binks_> ive used vb.net so oops is fine i get that bit its me ok ok c++ i wanted to for 2 years now so last q. best book and best link to use
[12:06] <Jucato> the book I'm reading now is Deitel's C++ How to Program (make sure it's the 5th edition). it's quite good
[12:06] <selolie> Hi!
[12:06] <troy> selolie hi
[12:06] <Jucato> binks_: oh btw, just one big recommendation. if you're going to look for books or resources, make sure they're compliant with ANSI/ISO Standard C++. books published on or after 1998 usually are
[12:07] <selolie> i have a question about amarok
[12:08] <selolie> where there is writing "title" " "artist" ... waht is "score" ?
[12:09] <troy> score  - your mark for song
[12:09] <JohnFlux_> selolie: how often you listen to it etc
[12:10] <selolie> :) thank u
[12:10] <kristjan_> how can I stop knotify from starting automatically even though system sounds are disabled and arts shut down
[12:10] <binks_> Jucato: thanks alot im off out just now so ill catch ya later if i get stuck am i alright to ask help here or should i keep it to c++ channels
[12:11] <Jucato> binks_: yep. there's a ##c++ channel. might want to drop by there and see the topic for helpful links
[12:13] <tahsin> hello
[12:13] <tahsin> why do i get this error C compiler cannot create executable ?
[12:13] <Karti> Hi all. Wonder if there are some wireless experts that have a few moments to help?
[12:14] <tahsin> ?
[12:14] <Karti> I have a clean install with a Belkin F5D7050 v4000
[12:14] <Jucato> tahsin: install "build-essential"
[12:14] <ardchoille> tahsin: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:14] <Karti> It appears to working  but no internet or network access
[12:15] <tahsin> i did that
[12:15] <tahsin> its already there
[12:15] <Karti> all help is appreciated ;)
[12:15] <tahsin> Jucato: i did that
[12:16] <tahsin> ardchoille: this package is already installed
[12:16] <aro> hello, where does 'apt-get source kopete -d' output the sources??
[12:16] <aro> they are not at /usr/src
[12:16] <ardchoille> tahsin: Ok
[12:16] <tahsin> ardchoille: what so i do now ?
[12:17] <tahsin> ardchoille: im trying to install baghira
[12:17] <ardchoille> tahsin: I suggested that because it solved my problem, which was the same thing you had.
[12:17] <ardchoille> tahsin: baghira is in the repos
[12:17] <tahsin> ardchoille: is there a easy way to install baghira ?
[12:17] <ardchoille> tahsin: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira . always check the repos before compiling
[12:17] <Jucato> aro: -d is redundant. it downloads in the current directory
[12:18] <tahsin> ok let me try it
[12:18] <ardchoille> tahsin: apt-cache search appname  <--to search the repos
[12:18] <aro> Jucato: Ou, wow, I see
[12:18] <aro> the directory ist knetwork
[12:19] <aro> thx
[12:19] <tahsin> ardchoille: let me try
[12:19] <ardchoille> !info kwin-baghira
[12:19] <ubotu> kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (feisty), package size 750 kB, installed size 2132 kB
[12:20] <tahsin> ardchoille: i found apt-cacher
[12:20] <ardchoille> tahsin: apt-cache search
[12:20] <ardchoille> tahsin: apt-cache search whatever-you-are-searching-for-here
[12:21] <tahsin> ardchoille: i didnt get u
[12:21] <tahsin> ardchoille: i found apt-cacher in adept
[12:21] <ardchoille> tahsin: Open a terminal and type:  apt-cache search baghira
[12:21] <tahsin> ok
[12:21] <^RiaN^> ardchoille: what player can play .mov format
[12:22] <tahsin> ardchoille: it says  KDE theme for Apple junkies :)
[12:22] <ardchoille> ^RiaN^: I don't kow, I don't mess with video/music stuff
[12:22] <tahsin> ardchoille: now what do i do ?
[12:22] <^RiaN^> :)
[12:22] <ardchoille> tahsin: That's the one, now type: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[12:23] <ardchoille> tahsin: See the beginning of the "apple junkies.." line?
[12:23] <ardchoille> kwin-baghira - KDE theme for Apple junkies :)
[12:23] <aro> another question
[12:23] <aro> i like to patch kopete
[12:23] <ardchoille> That tells you that the package name is kwin-baghira, so that is what you install
[12:23] <tahsin> tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[12:23] <tahsin> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:23] <tahsin> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:23] <tahsin> tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~$
[12:23] <aro> with that emoticon manager
[12:23] <tahsin> ardchoille: i got that error
[12:23] <ardchoille> tahsin: Close adept
[12:23] <tahsin> ok
[12:23] <aro> patch -p1 < /path/to/kopete.patch doesnt work
[12:23] <Karti> any wireless experts?
[12:24] <tahsin> ardchoille: thanks its installing i guess
[12:24] <ardchoille> tahsin: adpet, synaptic, apt-get all use APT as the backend, no two apps can use it at one time
[12:24] <tahsin> ardchoille: thanks for the info
[12:24] <tahsin> ardchoille: im a newbie
[12:24] <elkhanos> Karti not promising anything but probably better that you just ask the question
[12:25] <ardchoille> tahsin: When it's installed, you can tweak baghira settings in kcontrol in the Appearance & Themes section
[12:25] <ardchoille> tahsin: Everyone was a newbie once.. except for maybe Linus :)
[12:25] <tahsin> ardchoille: ya its done let me try
[12:25] <ubuntu> hi all
[12:25] <Karti> I have a clean install with a Belkin F5D7050 v4000
[12:25] <Karti> It appears to working  but no internet or network access
[12:26] <elkhanos> how does it 'appear' to work?
[12:26] <Karti> iwconfig gives me link quality 98/100 and signal level 30/100 so it must see it
[12:26] <ubuntu> i've got a question, i'm installing kubuntu as dual boot (windows), what's the difference between choosing /media/sda1 or /windows as mounting point for my windows partition?
[12:27] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Personal preference
[12:27] <elkhanos> what happens when you do sudo ifup wlan0
[12:27] <ubuntu> does it change anything to acces the partition later on ?
[12:27] <tahsin> ardchoille: now what do i do ? im in kcontrol but cant find baghira
[12:28] <Karti> I did a clean install and it opicked it up as eth0 and I have not changed that
[12:28] <ardchoille> tahsin: Click Appearance & Themes in the left list
[12:28] <ubuntu> like if i choose /media i know i can acces it through the system menu
[12:28] <tahsin> ardchoille: yup then
[12:28] <ardchoille> tahsin: Then go into the Style section
[12:28] <ardchoille> tahsin: I believe it'll be in the list under "Widget Style"
[12:28] <tahsin> ardchoille: yupo then
[12:28] <elkhanos> ok so try ifuping eth0 instead?
[12:29] <elkhanos> personally I just use knetworkmanager
[12:29] <ardchoille> tahsin: Be prepared to do a lot of tweaking, there are lots of settings for baghira
[12:29] <tahsin> ardchoille: yeah found it
[12:29] <tahsin> ardchoille: i will be back
[12:29] <Karti> elkhanos: I tried that and it says ethernet already up
[12:29] <ardchoille> tahsin: Don't forget the "Configure" button on the right
[12:29] <elkhanos> it has it's flaws for sure but works mostly
[12:30] <Karti> elkhanos: sorry it actually says interface eth0 already configured
[12:30] <Jahmon> ardchoille: does it change anything to acces the partition later on ? like if i choose /media i know i can acces it quickly through the system menu
[12:31] <elkhanos> Karti maybe just try cycling it with ifdown and then ifup it again?
[12:31] <Karti> to add I can't ping any of my internal ip addresses
[12:31] <Karti> will try now
[12:31] <elkhanos> karti is your AP encrypted?
[12:31] <ardchoille> Jahmon: It should always be where it is mounted, if you mount it at the same place everytime, you can just as well bookmark the mopuntpoint
[12:32] <Jahmon> okay thanks ;-)
[12:32] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[12:32] <bat17> I have Suse10 and WinowsXP already installed using the Grub loader, will Kubuntu pick up these two Ok when it installs and give me a choice of all 3?
[12:32] <ardchoille> bat17: It did for me.
[12:33] <bat17> thanks, I like KDE but dont like the Menu/Yast in Suze so still playing :)
[12:33] <tahsin_> .im back
[12:34] <tahsin_> ardchoille: now what do i do ?
[12:34] <tahsin_> ardchoille: i want to make it OS X look alike
[12:34] <ardchoille> tahsin_: Tweak baghira to look the way you want :)
[12:34] <ardchoille> tahsin_: Now comew the time to play in the settings.. which is the fun part :)
[12:34] <elkhanos> tahsin http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[12:34] <Karti> elkhanos: tried the up and down and although it works still no difference. It is encrypted and I entered the password and the SSID
[12:35] <adaptr> tahsin_ score an aqua theme from somewhere
[12:35] <ardchoille> elkhanos: Wow, thanks for that link.
[12:35] <ardchoille> tahsin_: Just so you know, http://www.kde-look.org  is a very nice themes site.
[12:35] <elkhanos> always a pleasure never a chore ;-)
[12:36] <elkhanos> Karti are you using wep or wpa?
[12:36] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[12:36] <elkhanos> karti also when you do ifconfig can you see that the correct interface has been assigned an ip number or not?
[12:37] <tahsin_> ardchoille: how do i get the menu bar
[12:37] <Contrast> Would anyone have an idea as to why I can't get to the Monitor & Display section when running KControl as root?
[12:38] <Karti> elkhanos: I have just checked on this one it looks like my BT hub is .254 rather than .1 for the gateway - brb just changing the details
[12:38] <ardchoille> tahsin_: In kcontrol, go to the Dekstop -> Behaviour section and look under "Menu bar at top of screen".
[12:39] <ardchoille> tahsin_:
[12:39] <ardchoille> tahsin_: There are two different styles
[12:39] <tahsin__> ardchoille: sorry got disconnected
[12:39] <tahsin__> ardchoille: yeah so ..
[12:40] <ardchoille> In kcontrol, go to the Dekstop -> Behaviour section and look under "Menu bar at top of screen"
[12:41] <tahsin__> ardchoille: yeah found mac os style
[12:41] <tahsin__> ardchoille: do i select that ?
[12:41] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Have you read the tutorial elkhanos pasted?
[12:42] <elkhanos> lol
[12:42] <tahsin__> ardchoille: nope where do i get it ?
[12:42] <ardchoille> tahsin__: You should read it, it will likely help you much more than I can
[12:42] <ardchoille> tahsin__: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[12:42] <ardchoille> I haven't used baghira in ages
[12:42] <tahsin__> ardchoille: okay thanks a lot if i have any problem then ill come back to you
[12:42] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Wow, that tutorial is quite nice too
[12:42] <elkhanos> me either much prefer Domino with Beryl
[12:43] <tahsin__> ardchoille: yeah but is it for newbies ?
[12:43] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Seems to be easy to follow
[12:43] <elkhanos> tahsin once you've been though it you'll be less of a newbie ;-)
[12:43] <ardchoille> I may install baghira again
[12:43] <ardchoille> elkhanos: lol
[12:44] <tahsin__> elkhanos: yeah ur right lol
[12:44] <tahsin__> ardchoille: im trying that
[12:44] <elkhanos> tahsin seriously though I used it whe I first got in to using linux and it was very useful for learning my way around things and getting the hang of following tutorials, which there can be a lot of in linux
[12:45] <tahsin__> elkhanos: yeah i guess ur rught
[12:46] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Don't worry about step 1, since you already have baghira
[12:46] <tahsin__> ardchoille: which one is the baghira conguration dialog?
[12:46] <elkhanos> Karti how you getting on?
[12:46] <tahsin__> ardchoille: im in step 2
[12:46] <ardchoille> tahsin__: in kcontrol, click the "Configure" button next to the "Widget" section
[12:47] <Karti> elkhanos: Sorry for the delay its on a different machine and I am using a kvm
[12:47] <tahsin__> ardchoille: thn
[12:47] <tahsin__> thnx
[12:48] <elkhanos> tahsin the bit that took me longest was the icons so here's a tip straight off the bat do sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[12:48] <ardchoille> tahsin__: I believe you can also type: bab   in a terminal and get a systray icon for tweaking
[12:48] <Karti> elkhanos: Looks like it is sorted. I gave it a static ip address and set the gateway and dns to my BT Hub and i can ping yahoo and internally
[12:48] <elkhanos> Karti no probs just my crossed fingers are getting stiff :-)
[12:48] <ardchoille> elkhanos: IMHO, that should come with the base install
[12:48] <tahsin__> ardchoille: let me try
[12:48] <Karti> I also tried it with dhcp but it gave me really funny ip address returns so static it is
[12:48] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Ah, yeah, that's in step 3
[12:49] <elkhanos> ardchoille I agree
[12:49] <Karti> elkhanos: lol
[12:49] <tahsin__> failed to open device
[12:49] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Do you have wacom devices?
[12:49] <elkhanos> Karti so you are up and running?
[12:49] <ardchoille> !search wacom
[12:50] <ubotu> Found:
[12:50] <Karti> all set up and complete
[12:50] <ardchoille> Stupid bot
[12:50] <elkhanos> sweeet!
[12:50] <Karti> just need to complete the install with those dodgy codecs and the like. Many thanks for your help and those pointers
[12:51] <tahsin__> ardchoille: nope dnt knw what ur talking about :s
[12:51] <Karti> set up Konversation on the new one and I can drop this windows ;)
[12:51] <Karti> brb
[12:52] <ardchoille> tahsin__: You should follow that tutorial rather than ask me because I haven't used baghira in ages and the tutorial author knows what he's doing.
[12:52] <davide> salve,qualcuno mi puo' illuminare sul che cosa e' un ripostisotry?
[12:52] <elkhanos> !es
[12:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:52] <tahsin> sorry again
[12:53] <tahsin> so why did i get failed to open device?
[12:53] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Probably because you have wacom stuff uncommented in xorg.conf and you have no wacom devices
[12:54] <tahsin> ardchoille: whats a wacom device ?
[12:54] <malik__> how do i close tabs with middle click in konqi in kubuntu fiesty?
[12:54] <ardchoille> tahsin: Tablet-type pc
[12:55] <MrC> hi fellows
[12:55] <tahsin> ardchoille: nope im on a real pc
[12:55] <Hirvinen> !grub
[12:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:55] <ardchoille> tahsin: I got rid of that error message by commenting out all the wacom stuff in xorg.conf.
[12:55] <tahsin> ardchoille: but im connected through a mobile
[12:55] <MrC> has anyone in here tried LinuxMint?
[12:56] <ardchoille> !wacom
[12:56] <tahsin> ardchoille: what do i do ?
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <ardchoille> tahsin: First thing I would suggest is: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[12:58] <ardchoille> tahsin: Then open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor and comment the wacom stuff: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:58] <ardchoille> But, be careful with that file, you're editing as root user.
[12:58] <MrC> i was wondering if i could/need to do a dual-boot if i install other linux distro,has anyone done that?
[12:58] <tahsin> ardchoille: didnt get the second part
[12:59] <MrC> I am thinking to try out LinuxMint ,so do you guys/gals know if i can do that without meesing up too much with my system
[01:00] <ardchoille> tahsin: paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to http://pastebin.ca/  I'll show you how to edit it
[01:00] <tahsin> oka
[01:00] <rothchild> tahsin 4th post in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435864
[01:00] <tahsin> okay
[01:00] <ardchoille> tahsin: Did you backup xorg.conf like I suggested?
[01:01] <Contrast83> Xorg doesn't keep per-user settings anywhere, does it?
[01:01] <ardchoille> tahsin: See the link rothchild pasted, that is exactly how I did mine.
[01:01] <tahsin> ok
[01:02] <Contrast83> (I'm trying to figure out why the screen flickers when I log into KDE, as it didn't used to do that, and I'm assuming it has to do with either something I've done in KControl's Monitor & Display section - while not root - or xorg.conf).
[01:03] <ardchoille> rothchild: Thanks.. no need or me to type when there's a tutorial out there :)
[01:03] <sivaji> !pastebin
[01:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <Contrast83> KControl is also listing different resolution options than what's in xorg.conf. :-\
[01:04] <tahsin> ardchoille: commenting out means removing right ?
[01:05] <rothchild> tahsin not quite, if you put a # infront of any line of code it means it won't be read
[01:05] <ardchoille> tahsin: No, it doesn't. Did you read the tutorial link rothchild pasted?
[01:05] <Contrast83> tahsin, no. Just put "##" at the beginning of the line it's on.
[01:05] <rothchild> lol x2
[01:06] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22559/ installation error
[01:06] <ardchoille> tahsin: There will be a lot of reading required in your Linux "life", it's a good idea to read stuff that people post for you :)
[01:06] <tahsin> ardchoille: okay
[01:06] <Contrast83> Very true. I was only so quick to give an easy answer because I was going crazy trying to find out what that meant when I first started with Linux.
[01:08] <MrC> LinuxMint distribution of the GNU/Linux operating system which purpose is to produce an elegant, up to date and comfortable GNU/Linux desktop. Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, compatible with it and shares the same repositories.
[01:08] <tahsin> ardchoille: how can i be sure whether im doing the right thing can you guys check it out ?
[01:08] <Contrast83> Did anyone see my question on KControl/xorg.conf?
[01:08] <MrC> so does anyone knows if is necessary to creat a dual-boot to install it side by side of Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[01:08] <Contrast83> MrC, yes.
[01:09] <ardchoille> tahsin: Sure, you can pastebin a file and someone will have a look.
[01:09] <tahsin> ardchoille: http://pastebin.ca/511293
[01:09] <tahsin> ardchoille: is it ok ? do i save it ?
[01:09] <Blissex> Contrast83: if you want, repeat a quesiton in full every 10 minutes or so... It may take time for someone who is interested or knows to appear.
[01:10] <ardchoille> tahsin: You missed the three lines near the bottom
[01:10] <Contrast83> Anytime it's two different distributions (and not just the same distribution with different desktop environments, e.g., K/X/Ubuntu), you have to dual-boot.
[01:10] <Contrast83> Thanks, Blissex
[01:10] <ardchoille> tahsin: You need to also comment lines 139, 140 and 141
[01:10] <tahsin> ardchoille: oh sorry i forgot
[01:11] <Blissex> Contrast83: BTW if it is a KControl question maybe it is not Ubuntu specific, try #KDE.
[01:11] <Contrast83> 'Preciate it.
[01:11] <Contrast83> I'm thinking it's more of a Xorg issue. Try #xorg?
[01:11] <tahsin> ardchoille: http://pastebin.ca/511296
[01:12] <tahsin> ardchoille: is it okay now ?
[01:12] <ardchoille> tahsin: That looks good. Nwo save the file.
[01:12] <tahsin> ok
[01:12] <tahsin> ardchoille: done
[01:13] <ardchoille> Nwo you have to restart X which requires you to logout and hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[01:14] <Contrast83> What's the problem you're trying to solve, tahsin? Just curious.
[01:14] <tahsin> contrast83: failed to open a device or something
[01:14] <ardchoille> Contrast83: KDE kept trying to initialise wacom devices (due to xorg content) and he doesn't have any
[01:14] <tahsin> contrast83: im working with baghira at the moment
[01:15] <tahsin> ardchoille: now...baghira
[01:15] <Contrast83> Ohh ok. Was it causing serious problems, or just annoying, albeit harmless, errors when opening programs from the terminal?
[01:15] <ardchoille> tahsin: RE: baghira, I do't want to risk giving you bad info, so it's probably better for you to follow that tutorial
[01:16] <tahsin> ardchoille: okay no prob
[01:16] <ardchoille> Seems to be better than I can help anyway
[01:16] <rothchild> tahsin I just looked at the tutorial I'd say follow it up to stage 7 and then come back to us because the bits below there are a bit out of date
[01:17] <ardchoille> rothchild: I'll probably be asking you questions about it too :)
[01:17] <tahsin> rothchild: thanks let me come to step 7 first
[01:17] <tahsin> lot of reading
[01:17] <rothchild> no problem
[01:17] <ardchoille> lol, this is just the beginning, my friend.
[01:18] <rothchild> just go slow and concentrate on being accurate
[01:19] <tahsin> i think i need help in step 2
[01:20] <tahsin> from baghira has a session manager.......
[01:20] <tahsin> furthermore i cant add apllets with the right click
[01:20] <Blissex> as to Wacom device opens, by default they are configured in xorg.conf ''just in case'' but not many people have them. The relevant section of the 'xorg.conf' can be deleted and also the reference to it in the rest of the config.
[01:20] <tahsin> ardchoillo: right click on the menu bar isnt working
[01:24] <rothchild> tahsin sorry i'm stumped
[01:24] <tahsin> rothchild: no prob
[01:24] <tahsin> rothchild: but the right click on the panel menu isnt working
[01:25] <rothchild> tahsin when I used baghiral I only used it for the look rather than the whole osx working practice, it's acually better when you build a hybrid imo
[01:25] <tahsin> rothchild: so im unable to add any applet
[01:25] <tahsin> i c
[01:26] <sivaji> 64 bit processor consumes 64 bit to store a unit data in memory ,whereas 32bit processor consumes 32bit to store a unit of data , it means 64 bit is not efficient is it so
[01:27] <rothchild> tahsin are you saying there is no rightclick menu or there is not the baghira applett to add?
[01:27] <tahsin> rothchild: when i right click on the panel nothing happens
[01:28] <tahsin> rothchild: but i guess an add applet option should be there right?
[01:28] <rothchild> tahsin what happens if you rightclick on the regular kicker bar at the bottom of the screen?
[01:29] <tahsin> rothchild: thats working fine ...i get the add applet option on the regular 1 but not on the top panel
[01:29] <rothchild> can you see the baghira starter option in that menu?
[01:29] <tahsin> rothchild: yes i can
[01:30] <tahsin> rothchild: i think i got it working
[01:30] <rothchild> tahin good stuff keep plugging away at it you'll be fine
[01:31] <tahsin> rothchild: how do i shorten the panel
[01:31] <tahsin> rothchild: shorten its length
[01:31] <rothchild> I gotta go now sorry real world awaits!
[01:31] <tahsin> rothchild: lol okay thanks for the help
[01:31] <tahsin> cheers !
[01:31] <rothchild> tahsin good luck!
[01:32] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:32] <sivaji>  my system hang when i play games why ?
[01:32] <Ace2016> can someone help me increase my refresh rate?  its stuck at 50 :( dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did not help
[01:32] <Ace2016> sivaji: drivers?
[01:32] <Ace2016> sivaji: is it an ati card?
[01:32] <sivaji> no
[01:33] <Ace2016> have you installed all the correct drivers? and can your system fast enough to run the game? (what game is it?)
[01:34] <sivaji> how to install drivers
[01:34] <Ace2016> sivaji: what graphics card do you have
[01:34] <Ace2016> ???
[01:35] <sivaji> i dont know
[01:35] <troy> sivaji S3? ^)
[01:35] <sivaji> i dont know is there any way to see graphic card installed or not
[01:36] <troy> sivaji try to see on graphic card ))
[01:36] <Ace2016> sivaji: run lspci  from konsole, from that list can you identify your graphics card?
[01:36] <Jucato> the fact that you can see this on your monitor means you have a graphics card installed.
[01:37] <Jucato> lspci | grep -i vga
[01:38] <sivaji> !pastebin
[01:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:38] <sivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ lspci | grep -i vga
[01:38] <sivaji> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[01:39] <Jucato> troy: wow! smart guess :)
[01:39] <troy> muahaaa
[01:40] <tahsin> ardchoille: u there?
[01:40] <tahsin> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[01:40] <tahsin>   Major opcode:  144
[01:40] <tahsin>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:40] <tahsin>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:40] <tahsin> Failed to open device
[01:40] <sivaji> troy ple tell whether it is install or not
[01:40] <tahsin> y do i get this ?
[01:41] <troy> sivaji i'm sure that installed )))
[01:41] <Ace2016> tahsin: ignore that, it does nothing
[01:41] <sivaji> then why my system hang when i play 3d games
[01:41] <troy> tahsin i'm have this trouble too )
[01:42] <troy> sivaji cuz' your video very "fast"
[01:42] <tahsin> ace2016: im working with baghira and it says me to type bab in konsole and when i typed that i got this
[01:42] <troy> sivaji "fast" = damn old
[01:43] <sivaji> troy i cant get u
[01:43] <krysiu> hi all
[01:43] <Ace2016> tahsin: its caused by the stupid wacom stuff ubuntu add to startup, so if you don't have a wacom tablet mouse thing it gives the error, quite simple to get rid of though
[01:43] <troy> sivaji try to change your video card man
[01:43] <sivaji> troy how
[01:44] <tahsin> ace2016: i did that but im still having the error
[01:45] <troy> sivaji for example buy )
[01:46] <Jucato> Ace2016: it's not for wacom tablet though
[01:46] <Ace2016> tahsin: run kdesu kwrite, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, go down to the       Section "ServerLayout"   at the end, and put a # in front of: InputDevice     "stylus"   "cursor" and "eraser"     now restart the computer and they'll go away
[01:46] <Jucato> Ace2016: he is gone
[01:46] <Ace2016> :(
[01:47] <sivaji> troy but windows supports all games
[01:47] <Ace2016> what gave are you trying to play?
[01:47] <troy> sivaji yeah..what's games?
[01:48] <troy> sivaji zuma or smth else?
[01:49] <sivaji> troy windows supports all games but kubuntu doesnt supports even 2d games
[01:49] <Ace2016> bye all
[01:50] <troy> sivaji what's games support windows
[01:50] <troy> ?
[01:52] <troy> sivaji cleverly opinion - install new drivers...but for this video......
[01:52] <sivaji> troy windows supports all games need for speed , nightfire ,quake 3 arena
[01:52] <Jucato> troy: the ones that were made in partnership with MS :D
[01:54] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22563/ dpkg crashed
[01:54] <troy> Jucato )))
[01:56] <luke__> can somebody please tell me how to downgrade Feisty from KDE 3.5.7 to KDE 3.5.6
[01:56] <luke__> KDE 3.5.7 causes more problems than it solves
[02:00] <sivaji> troy: ple help me see that link
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> for some reason I keep expecting someone to yell "Jucato!! :)"
[02:01] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: intelikey's not here :)
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> haha.
[02:01] <belsebub> after an upgrade from edgy to feisty yesterday, i can no longer post  in my forum... (apache 2 -> 2.2 is the most apparent change, but i've configured those the same)
[02:01] <AFaith> hello people!i've got a question about KDE
[02:02] <AFaith> is it really thatthe 3.5.7 version was launched ?
[02:02] <AFaith> btw, hello Admiral_Chicago! i know you :P
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> AFaith: yes 3.5.7 is the latest version, it has kubuntu packages as well
[02:02] <belsebub> the forum software is xennobb, which official website is offline
[02:02] <AFaith> Admiral_Chicago: kubuntu packages :D ?
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu.org
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> the news is on there and it'll link you to the latest repo
[02:03] <AFaith> i see :-?
[02:03] <AFaith> any personal impressions about kde 3.5.7 for kubuntu ?
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> i haven't noticed a big difference at all
[02:04] <belsebub> aren't they just fixing bugs now in 3.5.x
[02:05] <Jucato> they sneaked in a few small new features too
[02:05] <AFaith> i see... i
[02:05] <AFaith> i'm waiting for kde4
[02:05] <AFaith> i've heard that will be a very very different release
[02:05] <Jucato> longish wait :)
[02:05] <belsebub> we all do :)
[02:05] <AFaith> i might say revolutionary
[02:05] <Jucato> of course it will be very very different
[02:06] <Jucato> hm.. revolutionary? don't expect too much from the 4.0 release
[02:06] <AFaith> have you used the alpha/beta release ?
[02:06] <AFaith> Jucato: why not ?
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> AFaith: i used the alpha, catostophic failure...nothing launched
[02:06] <stuwar44> kde4 is not kde4.0
[02:06] <Jucato> KDE 4 refers to the *whole* release cycle for the KDE 4 series
[02:06] <Jucato> and as stuwar44 said, KDE 4 is not KDE 4.0
[02:07] <AFaith> a bit confused
[02:07] <Jucato> KDE 4.0 is the first (major) release for the KDE 4 series
[02:07] <AFaith> are you telling me that kde4 is not the same with kde 4.0
[02:07] <stuwar44> kde4 is kde4.0, kde4.1 and so on
[02:07] <Jucato> AFaith: technically, yes
[02:07] <stuwar44> the best version will be the kde 4.6 or so
[02:07] <stuwar44> the latest before kde 5
[02:08] <Jucato> KDE 4 refers to the *whole* release cycle for the KDE 4 series: KDE 4.0, KDE 4.0.1, etc. KDE 4.1, KDE 4.1.1, etc. up to KDE 4.x
[02:08] <Jucato> AFaith: KDE 4 is a "life cycle". KDE 4.0 up to KDE 4.whatever are release for the KDE 4 cycle
[02:09] <AFaith> i see...
[02:09] <erik_> hi all
[02:09] <Jucato> AFaith: the reason I said not to expect too much from KDE 4.0 is that it's the first release. they are treading on new territory so it might not be as smooth as expected
[02:09] <AFaith> Admiral_Chicago: you've told me that the alpha is catastrophic ... why ?
[02:09] <erik_> can I have a question ?
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> it launched kicker and crashed X and returned me to KDM
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> erik_: ask
[02:09] <AFaith> Jucato: i was expecting new features, not stability :P
[02:10] <Jucato> AFaith: also, some of the planned features for KDE 4 will not make it to KDE 4.0, but for the following releases
[02:10] <Jucato> AFaith: like I said, not all new/planned features
[02:10] <Jucato> erik_: go ahead and ask :)
[02:10] <AFaith> !question | erik_:
[02:10] <ubotu> erik_:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:10] <erik_> I have a new feisty on my new travelmate 6410 laptop
[02:10] <erik_> sound does not work :(
[02:10] <AFaith> erik_: what does lspci is saying to you ?
[02:10] <Jucato> AFaith: and even if they do make it in KDE 4.0, they are not promised to be in their final state. expect things to settle down around 4.1
[02:11] <erik_> it has: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[02:11] <erik_> my kernel is 2.6.20-16-386
[02:11] <belsebub> any ideas where i can get help with xennobb?
[02:12] <AFaith> Jucato: i see ... so i wanted to use again kde, but the new version .. and you're pre-advice (if i can name it like this) it's to wait until 4.1
[02:12] <AFaith> erik_: what is google saying about your problem ?
[02:12] <AFaith> !laptop
[02:12] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:13] <AFaith> !sound
[02:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:13] <AFaith> !intel audio
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <AFaith> !intel
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <erik_> I've found these: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+question/6436
[02:13] <Jucato> AFaith: not really. you can safely use 4.0. I'm just saying don't expect that 4.0 *is* *THE* KDE 4 :)
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> erik_: why don't you request a support ticket on LP, they may be able to help as well
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> anyways. /me is off till tomorrow
[02:14] <AFaith> ok Jucato! now i've understood the meaning of KDE4 and KDE 4.0
[02:14] <Jucato> bye Admiral_Chicago!
[02:14] <AFaith> bye bye Admiral_Chicago!
[02:14] <erik_> Admiral_Chicago: just tried here first
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !sound
[02:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:14] <AFaith> nice talking to you again
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> erik_: those links above might help
[02:15] <Jucato> AFaith: but don't worry. I'm sure the KDE devs will try to stabilize and put in new features ASAP.
[02:15] <erik_> ok, I'm checking it
[02:15] <Jucato> AFaith: there are still a lot of great things to look forward to, even just in KDE 4.0
[02:16] <erik_> coming back, if it still does not work :)
[02:16] <AFaith> Jucato: have you used the alpha release ?
[02:16] <Jucato> just slightly
[02:16] <AFaith> and your personal impression ?
[02:17] <AFaith> apt-get install php5-cgi php5-mysql php5-gd php5
[02:17] <AFaith> oh, sorry :P wrong window :))
[02:17] <Jucato> personal impression? "it's alpha" :)
[02:17] <AFaith> lol
[02:17] <Jucato> it runs, it breaks, it crashes, it wows, it disapoints. it's alpha :)
[02:17] <henri__> hi, does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror
[02:18] <AFaith> :))
[02:18] <AFaith> nice description
[02:18] <AFaith> have you spotted new programs ?
[02:18] <Jucato> well the live cd had lots of it, but I didn't really take a look into them. I did try krunner (the new Run Command "and more" app)
[02:19] <henri__> Does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror, so the page doesn't get indexed?
[02:19] <AFaith> i see... you're making me curious lol!!! and i'm a curios guy :))
[02:21] <logixoul> moin. sound input from my mic only works when the red led for "capture" in kmix is ON. however, when I turn it on, it goes instantly off again. any fix?
[02:22] <AFaith> logixoul: i've got the same problem a few months ago
[02:22] <AFaith> i'm also interested to find out an answer
[02:22] <logixoul> aha
[02:23] <AFaith> logixoul: if i remember well, i've tried alsaconf in Konsole
[02:23] <AFaith> nop
[02:23] <AFaith> not alsaconf
[02:23] <AFaith> the console method to setup the volume
[02:23] <logixoul> alsamixer?
[02:23] <AFaith> i don't remember the exact command now ...
[02:23] <AFaith> yes
[02:23] <AFaith> alsamixer!
[02:23] <logixoul> yeah, I'm installing that now
[02:23] <AFaith> :P
[02:24] <LjL> ubotwo part
[02:24] <logixoul> qamix too
[02:24] <brandon> what can be wrong with caffine it wont play my movie?
[02:25] <logixoul> what error message does kaffeine show?
[02:26] <brandon> source cant be read
[02:26] <logixoul> what are you trying to play?
[02:26] <AFaith> where is that *source* located ?
[02:26] <dromer> ok, the weirdest thing; I bought a 2nd hand 2.5" hd for my ancient laptop and tried to partition it, then it disappeared from fdisk -l o.O
[02:26] <brandon> crank
[02:26] <dromer> here's what I did: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22564/
[02:27] <brandon> u there?/
[02:28] <logixoul> AFaith: works fine with qamix =)
[02:28] <logixoul> brandon: aaah, you mean the Crank movie? heh. ok, answer AFaith's question now...
[02:29] <logixoul> (boy that movie ruled =)
[02:29] <brandon> yea
[02:30] <brandon> where do u download afaith
[02:30] <logixoul> huh?
[02:30] <logixoul> AFaith is one of the guys in this chat
[02:30] <brandon> oh thoughht it was program
[02:30] <brandon> what do i use to view my dvd
[02:30] <logixoul> kaffeine
[02:31] <brandon> it wont work
[02:31] <logixoul> oh fuck that
[02:31] <AFaith> sorry ... got to go
[02:31] <AFaith> brb
[02:31] <LjL> !language
[02:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:32] <erik_> so, alsamixer shows that PCM, Front, CD, PC Speaker is on, and has around -8 dB
[02:33] <erik_> my snd_hda_intel module is loaded, and it is used
[02:33] <erik_> aplay -l shows my card0 as the Intel HDA device
[02:33] <erik_> what else can be wrong ?
[02:34] <erik_> going crazy :)
[02:35] <ahmed> guys , wat was to type in terminal to get to the sound manager of realtek ??
[02:35] <kevin> what a boring place
[02:46] <hauppage> hi how do i make a Conexant Dynalink 56pmi modem work (pci) ?
[02:47] <kevin> no ide
[02:47] <italo> hallo
[02:47] <kevin> No one talks here..its a bit gay
[02:48] <manwithaface> ollah
[02:49] <henri__> Does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror, so the page doesn't get indexed?
[02:50] <kristjan_> !beagle
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beagle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <ahmed> does any one know how to access the realtek / alsa mixer fromthe terminal ?
[02:50] <manwithaface> henri_: what are you trying to hide?
[02:50] <kristjan_> ahmed: run alsamixer
[02:51] <kristjan_> !desktop search
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop search - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <Castor_Troy> who's know: xmms menu looks strange - unexplained simbols...few days later all be ok..
[02:54] <ahmed> ubuntustudio support here ??
[02:55] <Jucato> !ubuntustudio
[02:55] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[02:55] <manwithaface> ahmed: whats the question?
[02:56] <ahmed> i installed ubuntu studio on ubuntu using the repo
[02:56] <ahmed> then i installed kde..
[02:56] <ahmed> and it seems that studio stuff are working better with gnome
[02:56] <manwithaface> so now you have kubuntustudio
[02:56] <ahmed> is kde messing studio  ??
[02:56] <ahmed> well not exactly
[02:56] <ahmed> no studo theme for kde
[02:56] <ahmed> studio*
[02:56] <manwithaface> true, it is a metacity theme
[02:57] <manwithaface> perhaps someone has posted a studio kde theme on kde-look.org though
[02:57] <Cugel> If anyone knows of a better script for putting the track you're listening with Amarok to Konversation, I'd be pleased to know!
[03:00] <frojnd> I've downloaded remuco-server-amarok_0.4.3.1-0ubuntu2feisty_i386.deb  how can I install that kind of programs?
[03:01] <frojnd> chmod x remuco-server-amarok_0.4.3.1-0ubuntu2feisty_i386.deb  ?
[03:01] <frojnd> and than .remuco-server-amarok_0.4.3.1-0ubuntu2feisty_i386.deb ?
[03:01] <Jucato> frojnd: right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> install package
[03:01] <Jucato> or "sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>
[03:01] <Jucato> er no quotes
[03:01] <frojnd> ok tnx
[03:02] <boubbin> !nvidia
[03:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:03] <boubbin> i cant find the "System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager" in kubuntu
[03:03] <mats> !intel
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <Jucato> boubbin: becuase that's only for Ubuntu
[03:04] <logixoul> hi. I'm no longer asked for the root password for adminitstrative tasks in my Feisty. Now, I *love* that :) but am I not in a security risk?
[03:04] <logixoul> like, can't I be hacked or something?
[03:04] <logixoul> administrative*
[03:04] <AFaith> here again
[03:05] <AFaith> logixoul: you might be ;)
[03:05] <brandon> yea
[03:05] <mats> you still have to login with a pass?
[03:05] <logixoul> mats: my kdm is set to autologin
[03:05] <brandon> hey faith
[03:05] <mats> logixoul: ok, then you should close sshd and hope no one other than you gets their hand on your oc
[03:06] <mats> pc
[03:06] <brandon> how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program
[03:06] <mats> ;)
[03:06] <mats> ls Desktop/  ?
[03:06] <brandon>  how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program
[03:07] <brandon>  how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program
[03:07] <brandon>  how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program
[03:07] <logixoul> moron.
[03:07] <kristjan_> cd Desktop
[03:07] <Jucato> brandon: cd ~/Desktop
[03:07] <AFaith> brandon: try not to spam this channel
[03:07] <AFaith> cd ~/Desktop
[03:07] <AFaith> like Jucato said
[03:07] <Jucato> brandon: and please don't keep on repeating the same question per second
[03:08] <henri__> Does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror, so the page doesn't get indexed?
[03:08] <brandon> well if u answered it i wouldnt have 2
[03:08] <mats> jerk.
[03:08] <Jucato> !patience | brandon
[03:08] <ubotu> brandon: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:09] <Castor_Troy> does anybody know how i can configure WeatherWatch karamba widget?
[03:09] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: rightclick->configure, I suppose =)
[03:09] <Castor_Troy> logixoul, button configure isnt active (
[03:09] <Zeelot> hmm
[03:09] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: hmm, have you checked this applet's KDE-Apps page? it probably contains instructions ;)
[03:10] <Zeelot> the menu on my konversation vanished...???anyone know what's going on?
[03:10] <mats> is there conf-file in  ~/etc ?
[03:10] <Castor_Troy> logixoul no ideas there (((
[03:10] <logixoul> mats: ~/etc ? I don't have this dir, what's supposed to be in there?
[03:10] <logixoul> Zeelot: ctrl+m to get it back
[03:11] <^RiaN^> mats: how to install java in .bin format
[03:11] <Zeelot> yay *_*
[03:11] <BluesKaj> Zeelot, settings / hide-unhide menubar
[03:11] <Zeelot> thanks
[03:11] <logixoul> BluesKaj: lol...
[03:11] <Jucato> BluesKaj: how can he go to Settings?
[03:11] <logixoul> exactly...
[03:12] <mats> logixoul: hiih, i ment /etc ;)
[03:12] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: can I have a link to this please?
[03:12] <logixoul> mats ;)
[03:12] <Castor_Troy> logixoul sec
[03:12] <BluesKaj> <---hehe , thot he was talking about the icons
[03:12] <logixoul> the toolbar? right.
[03:12] <AFaith> hello BluesKaj!
[03:12] <AFaith> remember me :P ?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> <--old windows guy ,ppl have to forgive me
[03:13] <AFaith> huh ? o.0
[03:13] <BluesKaj> hi AFaith
[03:13] <Jucato> BluesKaj: we don't easily forgive :)
[03:14] <BluesKaj> tuff :)
[03:14] <AFaith> BluesKaj: are you reffering to me in this reply : <--old windows guy ,ppl have to forgive me
[03:14] <BluesKaj> nope
[03:14] <logixoul> AFaith: nope, to Jucato =)
[03:14] <AFaith> oh =) lol
[03:15] <AFaith> !lag
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <Castor_Troy> logixoul: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/WeatherWatch?content=16396
[03:15] <AFaith> how do i check my lag ?
[03:15] <mats> http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-whales26may26,1,497053.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-california what a 1. news from google ;D "Whales get a holiday break"
[03:15] <Jucato> AFaith: /ping AFaith
[03:15] <logixoul> AFaith: if you're using konversation, see the statusbar
[03:15] <AFaith> Jucato & logixoul : i'm using gaim 2.0.0beta6
[03:16] <AFaith> 1 secound :P
[03:16] <BluesKaj> gaim? ..why ?
[03:16] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: apparently this one doesn't allow configuration. try Liquid Weather ++
[03:16] <AFaith> BluesKaj: because i'm using Gnome now (ubuntu feisty)
[03:17] <logixoul> traitor!
[03:17] <AFaith> but #kubuntu is a really nice channel and i like it here
[03:17] <BluesKaj> bah...goto #ubuntu then :)
[03:17] <logixoul> dude, gotos are evil
[03:17] <AFaith> logixoul: though i use Gnome, i like KDE ... let's say i'm forced to use gnome for the moment
[03:17] <logixoul> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2819 <--- woah cool =)
[03:18] <Castor_Troy> logixoul thx
[03:18] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: np
[03:18] <^RiaN^> logixoul:  what's linux software like directx on linux
[03:18] <^RiaN^> logixoul:  what's linux software like directx on windows
[03:18] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: OpenGL for the DirectShow part
[03:18] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: OpenAL for the audio part
[03:18] <logixoul> etc
[03:18] <^RiaN^> how can i get it
[03:18] <BluesKaj> <---not a "dude" ...old retired guy maybe , but no "dude"
[03:18] <AFaith> BluesKaj: i really like this channel. in #ubuntu is ... bleah ... to bussy channel :)
[03:18] <logixoul> BluesKaj: ah heh ;) I'm 17
[03:19] <^RiaN^> logixoul:  can i use adept-manager for that
[03:19] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: why?
[03:19] <BluesKaj> yeah , busy cuz gnome is unfamiliar territory when you migrate from windows
[03:19] <^RiaN^> so, what should i do
[03:20] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: what is your ultimate desire?
[03:20] <AFaith> BluesKaj: yes, but *buntu is the most userfriendly disitribution that you migrate from windows
[03:20] <logixoul> er, that sounded wrong.
[03:20] <GrueTamer> BluesKaj: well, i dont quite know whats happening, but i wish you luck migrating from windows, its worth it
[03:20] <BluesKaj> AFaith, Kubuntu is
[03:20] <AFaith> many n00bs consider kubuntu another distribution ... not ubuntu with kde
[03:20] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: you just wanna play a game or something?
[03:21] <^RiaN^> yes
[03:21] <GrueTamer> AFaith: hehe, ill drink to that :)
[03:21] <AFaith> BluesKaj: i've said *buntu (including ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu, the official ubuntu releases)
[03:21] <brandon> where is Mozilla plugins directory?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> been in kubuntu for about 9mos now
[03:21] <AFaith> GrueTamer: :P why ?
[03:21] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: if you use adept to install the game, any dependencies (such as opengl) will be automagically installed
[03:21] <brandon>  where is Mozilla plugins directory?
[03:21] <AFaith> brandon: check ~/.mozilla
[03:21] <^RiaN^> logixoul: yes for game
[03:22] <GrueTamer> ive been trying to help someone convert to linux, and they keep telling me that kubuntu is an easier linux distro to use
[03:22] <AFaith> GrueTamer: and it is!
[03:22] <GrueTamer> not for me
[03:22] <AFaith> but the latest kubuntu i've used (dapper) had a few problems
[03:22] <brandon> kubuntu's kde is a lot like windows
[03:22] <AFaith> GrueTamer: whats your problem then ?
[03:22] <logixoul> brandon: just so you know, asking the same question with less than 10 minutes in between makes you look like a fucking idiot. stop it, and be patient. Don't polute the channel, other people are also trying to have conversations here.
[03:23] <GrueTamer> problems? no, no problems
[03:23] <^RiaN^> logixoul: how about gunbound
[03:23] <GrueTamer> i just think that wmii, icewm, and fluxbox/blackbox/whatever other *box is easier for me
[03:23] <^RiaN^> logixoul: how to install it
[03:23] <PriceChild> !ohmy | logixoul
[03:23] <ubotu> logixoul: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:23] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: try adept
[03:24] <BluesKaj> GrueTamer, so the pubilicity says ...easier to install maybe , not so arcane , understandable terms are used as opposed to debian, where you need a linux dictionary to figure out what the instructions mean
[03:24] <logixoul> PriceChild: hmm... but then again, are there ops to filter out people like brandon?
[03:24] <AFaith> GrueTamer: are you telling me that kde is to hard for you o.0 ?
[03:24] <^RiaN^> logixoul: how to install gunbound i mean
[03:24] <AFaith> *to difficult to use
[03:24] <GrueTamer> nah
[03:24] <^RiaN^> i just done with ragnarok
[03:24] <PriceChild> logixoul, if you have a problem with a user then please contact an op. (/msg chanserv access #channel list)
[03:25] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: adept is the tool you generally use to install stuff.
[03:25] <GrueTamer> its not hard, i just prefer other things, and im so used to wmii and its ways that its easier for me
[03:25] <GrueTamer> same with the others
[03:25] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: including games
[03:25] <logixoul> PriceChild: good call, thanks
[03:25] <^RiaN^> but i want to install game gunbound
[03:25] <AFaith> i see ... you preffer lightweight
[03:25] <GrueTamer> yeah
[03:25] <GrueTamer> i come in here mostly to help people out
[03:26] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: what part of "use adept to install gunbound" is so hard to understand?
[03:26] <^RiaN^> no
[03:26] <logixoul> GrueTamer: lol man, nice nick. I keep reading it as TrueGamer, it makes sense either way :)
[03:26] <^RiaN^> i've download the gunbound
[03:26] <GrueTamer> hahaha
[03:26] <^RiaN^> and want to install it
[03:26] <GrueTamer> isnt gunbound a windows game?
[03:26] <^RiaN^> yes
[03:27] <^RiaN^> how to run it on linux
[03:27] <GrueTamer> you could try wine
[03:27] <^RiaN^> i do
[03:27] <GrueTamer> and just clickin on the installer doesnt work?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> gamerz.... bah , get an xbox!
[03:27] <^RiaN^> but it say "make sure your x server installed and $DISPLAY correctly
[03:27] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:27] <GrueTamer> ive got a 360 right next to me...gotta love GoW
[03:28] <BluesKaj> bye
[03:28] <frojnd> wha does that mean? Device search job /home/q/.kde/share/apps/kbluetoothd/discovery_jobs/test1 returned with error code 127.
[03:28] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: windows games generally don't work on linux. If you try wine, there's a small chance that it might still work (buggy though). Either that or you could buy Cedega or Crossover Office so the likelihood that the game works is better.
[03:29] <BluesKaj> frojnd, unless you have bluetooth ,mignore it
[03:29] <Sarazar> Diablo II works fine on my ubuntu machine thank you
[03:29] <^RiaN^> i've try many emulator
[03:29] <frojnd> BluesKaj: I have bluet tooth..
[03:29] <GrueTamer> ut2k4 works...oh, wait, its linux native :)
[03:29] <^RiaN^> cadega, crossover, and wine
[03:29] <GrueTamer> ^RiaN^: wine is not an emulator
[03:29] <frojnd> BluesKaj: I wanna conncet nokia and my computer..
[03:29] <GrueTamer> its what wine stands for :)
[03:29] <^RiaN^> oo
[03:30] <AFaith> hey, i've seend that you're talking about games :P
[03:30] <^RiaN^> where must i download wine in .deb
[03:30] <AFaith> recomand me a few ones :)
[03:30] <logixoul> GrueTamer: is there a word that means "app that runs apps on a platform they weren't written to run on" then? :)
[03:30] <^RiaN^> oo
[03:30] <^RiaN^> my english is not to good
[03:30] <^RiaN^> :)
[03:31] <^RiaN^> sory
[03:31] <BluesKaj> ^RiaN^, google for wine repository
[03:31] <GrueTamer> logixoul: correct me if im wrong, but i think wine like, runs a windows program compliant API to run the windows programs
[03:31] <logixoul> AFaith: openarena, nexuiz, tremulous, liquidwar, netpanzer, vegastrike, xmoto
[03:31] <AFaith> i've tryied Planet Penguin Racer (awsome), frozen buble (funny) but i wand more :P
[03:31] <compilerwriter> Would some one please tell me difference between the suspend and Hibernate options at the logout screen?
[03:31] <GrueTamer> alien arena is good, but its not in apt
[03:31] <^RiaN^> how alien it size
[03:31] <AFaith> logixoul: nexuiz it's not running smoothly on my lod GeForce4 :(
[03:31] <ctothej> After plugging in a usb hard drive into my external creative-based usb sound card, the sound card is no longer recognized. I think plugging in the usb drive could have been the cause, but am not positive. How can I reenable the usb sound card? it is no longer listed as a device in the sound config.
[03:32] <GrueTamer> nexuiz runs alright for me, but not great
[03:32] <logixoul> AFaith: disable "OpenGL 2.0 shaders" in the settings to fix that =)
[03:32] <AFaith> logixoul: tell me more about : openarena, tremulous, liquidwar, netpanzer, vegastrike and xmoto please :P
[03:32] <AFaith> logixoul: i've removed it :-"
[03:32] <logixoul> AFaith: openarena is like quake 3 only it doesn't look as cool.
[03:32] <GrueTamer> openarena is like a free gpl compliant quake 3
[03:33] <logixoul> AFaith: tremulous is aliens vs humans with strategy elements
[03:33] <GrueTamer> tremulous is aliens vs humans kind of like gloom and natural selection, with bad antilag
[03:33] <GrueTamer> xmoto is a motorcross game with like, a thousand levels, VERY FUN
[03:33] <logixoul> AFaith: liquidwar is reaaaaly fun small game with lots of thinking where you try to eat you enemy's liquid
[03:33] <logixoul> AFaith: netpanzer is a strategy like Panzer General which I haven't played much but seems okay
[03:34] <logixoul> AFaith: vegastrike is like Freelancer, but *really* buggy
[03:34] <GrueTamer> ive heard that Alien Arena is gonna be in apt soon, just makin .deb files for it
[03:34] <logixoul> AFaith: xmoto is a 2d motor game where you collect, uh, strawberries oO
[03:34] <^RiaN^> really
[03:34] <^RiaN^> lol
[03:34] <GrueTamer> xmoto is the best on that list, i think
[03:34] <GrueTamer> because you never run out of levels to play
[03:35] <AFaith> ok, i'll google them :P
[03:35] <frojnd> if I wanna install more than 2 packages at the same time, what is the command ?
[03:35] <logixoul> AFaith: no, just install them with Adept ;)
[03:35] <GrueTamer> make sure you dont get xmoto from apt, though, unless they have the newest version in it now
[03:35] <AFaith> i can find them in apt repos :O ?
[03:35] <GrueTamer> all of them
[03:35] <logixoul> AFaith: huh, weird
[03:35] <AFaith> wow!!!
[03:35] <AFaith> nice!
[03:35] <GrueTamer> but unless xmoto is at version 0.2.7, dont get it
[03:35] <GrueTamer> theres deb files on the site to get instead, but i bet they updated that by now
[03:35] <AFaith> lets try again with nexuiz :P
[03:35] <GrueTamer> (in the apt repos, at least)
[03:36] <chuen> Hi - can anyone help me with a 'boot' problem?
[03:36] <^RiaN^> torcs is good too
[03:36] <GrueTamer> AFaith: http://red.planetarena.org   i found that alien arena's website, it comes in a zip file...or you could get it from svn and then compile the linux binaries
[03:36] <GrueTamer> for an extra new version
[03:37] <AFaith> i see :-?
[03:37] <AFaith> but for the moment i'm installing nexuiz again :P and i'm trying to disable open gl 2.0
[03:37] <AFaith> :D
[03:37] <GrueTamer> suit yourself
[03:38] <AFaith> but a racing game ? like need for speed or something like this ?
[03:38] <GrueTamer> ugh, good racing games are hard to find
[03:38] <GrueTamer> tuxracer was pretty lame, but you could give it a try
[03:38] <logixoul> AFaith: no, torcs sucks. no match to NFS :(
[03:38] <logixoul> gotta try that one
[03:39] <AFaith> see`ya logixoul! thanks for the tips you've gave me :P
[03:39] <guille> hi
[03:40] <AFaith> GrueTamer: tuxracer ... pretty lame, but not so good
[03:40] <AFaith> *bad
[03:40] <AFaith> hi guille!
[03:40] <frojnd> where can I get package libbluetooth2-dev  and if I find it in .deb file. Can I install it with dpkg so when I will install other program this dependence libbluetooth2-dev will be recognized as installed... ?? any ideas
[03:40] <pointwood> anyone upgraded to kde 3.5.7? works without problems?
[03:40] <AFaith> GrueTamer: i've played a racing game in mandriva a few months ago .. but i was controlling the car by maus
[03:41] <AFaith> *mouse
[03:41] <GrueTamer> weird
[03:41] <AFaith> pointwood: someone complained earlier that there are a lot of bugs in kde 3.5.7
[03:41] <pointwood> ok
[03:41] <guille> pointwood: the packages aren't in kubuntu repositories
[03:41] <pointwood> I will not upgrade then
[03:42] <guille> I can't close apps using the task bar, when I open the menu with right click, "close" option is disabled (grey color), is there a solution?
[03:42] <pointwood> guille: I know, you have to add an extra repo
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.7
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.6
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.5
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.4
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> grr
[03:42] <pointwood> heh
[03:42] <Hobbsee> pointwood: /topic
[03:42] <Hobbsee> we used to have factoids for it
[03:42] <Hobbsee> yes, there are some bugs in it
[03:43] <AFaith> see`ya soon ... i'm trying nexuiz now :P
[03:45] <guille> anyone can close windows making right click on the task bar->close
[03:47] <dthacker> h
[03:47] <dthacker> hello
[03:49] <Jahmon> can anyone remind me of what command i have to type in the konsole to see the errors i see when kubuntu boots (when i see the upsplash)
[03:49] <dthacker> Jahmon: dmesg
[03:49] <Jahmon> thanks a lot !
[03:50] <dthacker> Jahmon: np :)
[03:54] <boubbin> Jucato how to install nvidia drivers then ?
[03:55] <Jucato> boubbin: same way as always
[03:55] <boubbin> you mean with adept ?
[03:55] <boubbin> by thw wiki ?
[03:56] <Jucato> nvidia-glx
[03:56] <boubbin> legacy actually.
[03:56] <Jucato> or nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new
[03:56] <boubbin> but its the same
[03:56] <boubbin> i still have to do some commandline settings ?
[03:57] <Jucato> yep
[03:57] <Jucato> not sure if Monitor & Display covers it though
[03:58] <Jucato> I mean after nvidia-glx-legacy is installed
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Hobbsee, just use apt : sudoa apt-get upgrade , after you  copy these debs into your sources list and apt-get update
[03:58] <Jucato> and don't forget to install linux-restriced-modules-generic
[03:58] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks ;)
[03:58] <Hobbsee> BluesKaj: i'm running gutsy
[03:59] <BluesKaj> Hobbsee, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[03:59] <Hobbsee> BluesKaj: indeed.
[03:59] <BluesKaj> why so soon Hobbsee?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> should say is uploaded.  it's finished
[03:59] <Hobbsee> why so soon what?
[04:00] <Jucato> Hobbsee: nah. I don't think Riddell includes ubuntu+1 kde versions in the announcements either
[04:00] <BluesKaj> gutsy
[04:00] <boubbin> Jucato yeah.
[04:00] <dthacker> are there daily build for gutsy already?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it is there
[04:00] <Jucato> the presumption is that the devel version always gets the latest
[04:00] <Hobbsee> dthacker: no.  you can dist-upgrade though
[04:00] <Jucato> lol /me checks
[04:00] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true that
[04:01] <Jucato> (it also prevents unknowing users from mistaking a devel version as the latest stable version :P)
[04:01] <Jucato> s/prevents/protects/
[04:02] <BluesKaj> Hobbsee, is it stable? and what about hardware recognition ?
[04:02] <Hobbsee> BluesKaj: it's not stable.
[04:03] <BluesKaj> I hope the new linux drivers that ATI claims they are writing for the open source commmunity are included in the final release ...at least ones that work :)
[04:04] <harmental> hey guys...i have a strange problem with my wifi connection....
[04:04] <Jucato> BluesKaj: depends a lot on when they release it, how (the license) they release it, and who will package it
[04:04] <harmental> my pc connects automatically at startup to my router...
[04:05] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: where can I find some details?
[04:05] <harmental> but i can access the internet
[04:05] <BluesKaj> hate like hell to go out and buy a nVidia graphics card only to have ATI finally do right by their customers who prefer linux
[04:05] <harmental> i have to disconnect and reconnect manually to make it work...
[04:05] <harmental> any ideas?
[04:05] <dthacker> harmental: is that *can't* access the internet?
[04:06] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort, maybe google , the ATI chief made an anouncement at some conference a few weeks ago
[04:06] <harmental> dthacker: yeap....sorry (if it werent the case...i wouldn have a problem at all ;op)
[04:06] <federica> hi
[04:07] <federica> just installed kubuntu, i can surf with firefox and update with apt but can't surf with konqueror
[04:07] <dthacker> harmental: what was the last setting you changed or package you upgraded?
[04:07] <dettoaltrimenti> when I try to burn a dvd, in gnomebaker or brasero, I get this error- :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h] : Input/output error
[04:08] <BluesKaj> ATI - LINUX :  http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/05/09/amd-will-deliver-open-graphics-drivers/
[04:08] <AFaith> GrueTamer: are you online ?
[04:08] <harmental> i updated to edgy...
[04:08] <harmental> back then i couldnt get my box to automatically at startup....
[04:08] <makuseru> where are KDM themes located?
[04:09] <AFaith> dettoaltrimenti: why don't you try with k3b ?
[04:09] <AFaith> can anyone else help me with a little problem with nexuiz ?
[04:09] <AFaith> it runs so slowly :(
[04:09] <harmental> then i tried disabling the ethernet connection because i read somewhere that there may be conflicts when using a pcmcia card...
[04:10] <AFaith> when i'm not fireing (or other opponents) it runs smoothly, almost 100fps, but when fires are shot ... it shows me as little as 2-3 fps
[04:10] <harmental> then i tried reconfiguring from scratch my wifi connection....
[04:10] <frojnd> hm, how can I find alsa-plugins folder?? I was trying to install bluetooth headset by this tutorial: http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/build.html
[04:10] <harmental> and here i am....
[04:11] <dthacker> harmental: ok, that's a lot of upgrade. :)  Can you ping your router/firewall?  If you can, can you ping something on the internet?
[04:11] <dettoaltrimenti> AFaith- exact same error with k3b
[04:12] <AFaith> dettoaltrimenti: is your dvd-rw drive working
[04:12] <AFaith> no one can help me ?
[04:12] <AFaith> please, i'm "desperate" :P
[04:13] <dettoaltrimenti> it reads dvds fine, and it has never had a problem before burning them
[04:13] <m1sha> I can't log into kde, any ideas?
[04:14] <harmental> dthacker: i would have to reboot my box to reproduce the error.....
[04:14] <harmental> how can i ping the internet and my router?
[04:15] <dthacker> harmental: do you know the ip address of your router?
[04:15] <m1sha> harmental $ping 192.168.1.254 (the default for most routers)
[04:16] <brandon> i am having problems with beryl can anyone help?
[04:17] <m1sha> brandon if you explain what your problems are
[04:17] <brandon> whenever i go into it the screen turns white
[04:17] <guille> anyone can close windows making right click on the application in the task bar->close in the menu?
[04:17] <brandon> i am on feisty fawn latest version with amd 64
[04:17] <makuseru> where are KDM themes located?
[04:18] <brandon> graphics are ati radeon xpress 200
[04:18] <makuseru> you need fglrx
[04:18] <dthacker> makuseru: themes.kde.org
[04:18] <makuseru> no
[04:18] <makuseru> not a website
[04:18] <makuseru> i mean the folder
[04:19] <brandon> i need  fglrx
[04:19] <makuseru> yes
[04:19] <brandon> where do i get it?
[04:19] <makuseru> google
[04:19] <m1sha> so can anyone help me get kde to start?
[04:19] <makuseru> !fglrx
[04:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:19] <vitto> m1sha
[04:20] <dthacker> m1sha: you need to give us more info, please?
[04:20] <LjL> nazi_, change your nickname please
[04:21] <m1sha> dthacker sure, from the standard login screen if I try to log in any account screen goes black and it bring me back to the start, I can only get in if I boot single user mode and login as root
[04:21] <makuseru> LjL: wtf. why would someone have that name
[04:21] <LjL> which is why i told him to change it
[04:21] <guille> hehe
[04:21] <makuseru> any mods in here?
[04:22] <Jucato> makuseru: you were talking to one
[04:22] <dthacker> m1sha: sounds like kde can't start session.  Any recent changes?
[04:22] <makuseru> is he?
[04:22] <makuseru> i didnt know
[04:23] <makuseru> the only person i know around here as a mod is you Jucato
[04:23] <Jucato> lol
[04:23] <makuseru> since your always on
[04:23] <dthacker> kubunu mods speak softly and carry a big K
[04:23] <makuseru> Jucato: is dr_willis a mod?
[04:23] <hyper_ch> dthacker: like Kjucato
[04:24] <dthacker> hehe
[04:24] <Jucato> hyper_ch: that'd be JuKato :)
[04:24] <Jucato> makuseru: nope
[04:24] <makuseru> hes just someone who hels ALOT?
[04:24] <makuseru> ha
[04:24] <Jucato> yeah, he "hels" a lot :)
[04:24] <makuseru> oops
[04:24] <makuseru> helps*
[04:24] <Dr_willis> heck for 2 mo i was rarely in here.
[04:24] <hyper_ch> ;)
[04:25] <makuseru> everytime im in here you are
[04:25] <makuseru> helping people
[04:25] <makuseru> speaking of help, where are KDM themes located?
[04:25] <Jucato> makuseru: /usr/share/apps/kdm
[04:25] <Dr_willis> use the locate command - thats how i always got ot find them
[04:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:25] <makuseru> thanks Jucato
[04:25] <Jucato> from the top of my head, so might be a bit wrong
[04:25] <m1sha> dthacker I can't think of any, I tried deleting my .kde to see if it was a bad setting as well
[04:25] <Jucato> but definitely in /usr :)
[04:25] <dthacker> ooo, I was wrong. on the net themes are at kde-look.org
[04:25] <aka_dennister> Dr_willis: good morning! just the person i was hoping to see :)
[04:26] <Jucato> Dr_willis: you have a patient :)
[04:27] <aka_dennister> still trying to figure out why flash sound works as this new user, and why it simply wont as my normal user
[04:27] <aka_dennister> Jucato: yes, me! lol
[04:27] <makuseru> well Jucato and Dr_wills: you have good days, im off to spread the word of the Buntu
[04:27] <hyper_ch> aka_dennister: maybe flash doesn't like your normal user...
[04:28] <Jucato> makuseru: the source be with you
[04:28] <dthacker> m1sha: is .kde re-created on login?  That might be contributing.  I think you're past my knowledge, though
[04:28] <makuseru> hahaha
[04:28] <aka_dennister> haha...it liked it at first...guess i offended it somehow and it will only date me in disguise now\
[04:28] <dthacker> me asks for help in helping m1sha
[04:28] <m1sha> dthacker AFIAK it is. thanks anyway
[04:30] <c1|freaky> someone here familiar with KDevelop? I'm wondering if theres any "simple template" where you just get the general structure of a program created (like the Hello World template but without the Hello World code? (i know i could just delete that code but maybe theres some "optimized" template just for general project creation without unneccessary code prewritten?
[04:31] <aka_dennister> any ideas ppl? Ive already made sure my .mozilla directory is identical in both home directories
[04:31] <m1sha> aka_dennister maybe you are running some app that takes over sound?
[04:31] <mweijts> !beryl
[04:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:32] <m1sha> and can someone please help me out here? running irc/msn/web in a terminal is fun for a while but it's not great long term
[04:32] <aka_dennister> possibly...but that would be really hard to determine...I running the same apps in this user, and they give up the sound
[04:33] <aka_dennister> i scared the doc away...:( 2nd time this week ive been determined to be a difficult patient :(
[04:33] <aka_dennister> lol
[04:38] <BluesKaj> aka_dennister, doctors need difficult patients , even if it's just to remind them that they aren't gods :)
[04:38] <aka_dennister> hey BluesKaj :) gm
[04:39] <BluesKaj> 'morning dennister :)
[04:39] <aka_dennister> somehow i don think they see it that way...
[04:41] <aka_dennister> very iiiinnnnnnnnnnteresting...:)
[04:41] <Graham> Hey, newbie question here, where does Wine store icons?
[04:41] <BluesKaj> most medical docs are warped in some manner :)
[04:42] <stdin> Graham: in ~/.local/share/icons/ I should think
[04:42] <BluesKaj> in the wine store .. ;)
[04:42] <aka_dennister> yes, but I said ancel all my appointments"to the eye institute...just now i was making a joke about Dr_willis
[04:43] <Graham> stdin: You're a good man.
[04:43] <Graham> Thanks.
[04:43] <stdin> :)
[04:43] <aka_dennister> ahhhhhhh, but maybe stdin can help me :)
[04:43] <aka_dennister> good morning!
[04:43] <stdin> afternoon :)
[04:43] <Jucato> where's genii when you need caffeine!?! :(
[04:43] <stdin> damn, now I want coffee
[04:44] <aka_dennister> so genii is still coming around? i thought hed hidden himself for good
[04:44] <Jucato> haven't seen him for a few days now
[04:44] <Jucato> but then again I've been busy myself...
[04:45] <aka_dennister> well, he was literally hanging up on me back when i was still working with him at the office
[04:45] <stdin> hmm, even SeenServ hasn't seen him
[04:45] <aka_dennister> but i quit that farce of a nonprofit, so don care anymore
[04:46] <BluesKaj> genii comes around about once/wk it seems
[04:46] <BluesKaj> farce of a nonprofit ?
[04:47] <aka_dennister> here my problem de jour: the only thing that has gotten me any closer to getting sound back in my flash movies (youtube/others) was Dr_willis' suggestion to see if it worked as a new user; it did, all the same apps have working sound
[04:47] <BluesKaj> ohoh, the permissions tangle :(
[04:48] <aka_dennister> however, i can for the life of me find out what different with this new user and my old regular user
[04:48] <stdin> aka_dennister: hmm, maybe try changing ' FIREFOX_DSP="none" ' to ' FIREFOX_DSP="artsdsp" ' in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (or put it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc)
[04:49] <aka_dennister> but the interesting symptom ive just discovered is that, with this new user, firefox doesn let go of the sound until i close firefox
[04:49] <aka_dennister> stdin: thx; will try that
[04:52] <aka_dennister> certainly i done a locate before, and the only firefoxrc file in the whole pc had the dsp to none
[04:52] <stdin> that's the default, yes
[04:52] <stdin> change it to artsdsp
[04:56] <aka_dennister> ok, flash sound is still working after the change for this user...will have to log out to see if it helps with the main user...be right back
[05:06] <thotel2> hello
[05:07] <thotel2> ho hase never uses VirtualBox on feisty
[05:07] <thotel2> ?
[05:07] <stdin> !it
[05:07] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:12] <busfahrer> I see lots of KDE packages have been updated, any special reason?
[05:13] <stdin> are you using the 3.5.7 packages?
[05:13] <busfahrer> no, regular stuff
[05:13] <stdin> hmm, take a look at the changelogs then
[05:14] <stdin> aptitude changelog [package] 
[05:15] <dennister> stdin: nope, didn't work...have tried all sorts of things with /etc/firefox/firefoxrc now
[05:16] <stdin> hmm, that's strange
[05:16] <dennister> certainly the speakers and sound card does *not* get released if firefox is still running and I try to use the sound with another multimedia app
[05:18] <stdin> the only thing I can think of is to make sure you are in the same groups as the new user
[05:18] <dennister> stdin: way ahead of you; did that before i even came into the chartoom
[05:18] <dennister> *chatroom
[05:19] <Qoole> hi there, I have setup an LTSP server (Kraken). The server logs on to our domain successfully as do the LTSP clients. could anyone talk me through setting up pam_mount to automatically mount home dirs on login?
[05:20] <dennister> perhaps i should just copy a lot of stuff from my normal user's home to the new user
[05:20] <stdin> dennister: that's probably the quickest fix
[05:21] <dennister> yeah...there's only so much someone should really be expected to troubleshoot
[05:23] <blackflag> I have a DNS problem. I have another network with vpn connected. In my lan there is a DNS forwarding to the DNS Server in another LAN
[05:23] <blackflag> I can do nslookup dig all is running fine. its .local tld
[05:24] <busfahrer> When I remove an *unused* SATA controller from my system, I only got a blank screen with a blinking cursor instead of GRUB. Any ideas?
[05:24] <blackflag> but when I try to reach the server with a browser then the .local server isnt reachabel. How could this be?
[05:25] <blackflag> I tried firefox and konqueror
[05:25] <blackflag> Can someone help?
[05:25] <blackflag> I can get the webserver there with IP but not via DNS
[05:26] <balaji> hi friends
[05:27] <balaji> how to mount a 80 Gb hardrive
[05:27] <balaji> it never hows up during fdisk -l
[05:27] <balaji> ?
[05:29] <BluesKaj> is it formated to ext ?
[05:29] <BluesKaj> or ntfs
[05:29] <balaji> no how to do that?
[05:29] <balaji> its not formatted
[05:29] <BluesKaj> if there's no format , it won't be seen
[05:29] <balaji> i am new to linux and not a computers student
[05:29] <Castor_Troy> balaji mount -t auto /dev/sdx /mount_point
[05:30] <Castor_Troy> balaji under root
[05:31] <soon> What do I need to convert wmv files to e.g mpeg4 ???
[05:31] <soon> I've installed the Others / Restricted formats
[05:31] <soon> Kaffeine want play the wmv (neither will mplayer)
[05:31] <soon> want = wont
 the device is unformatted and i want to create some partition in it supporting files for linux and windows
[05:32] <BluesKaj> soon, devede, tovid, and I think avidemux
[05:32] <Castor_Troy> balaji gparted can help you
[05:33] <soon> thanks
[05:33] <balaji> its giving error command not found
[05:34] <Qoole> does anyone have a tutorial for setting up pam_mount?
[05:35] <Castor_Troy> balaji sudo apt-get install gparted
[05:35] <BluesKaj> soon , for playback in kaffeine/settings/player engine/   ..set it to kaffeine-xine
[05:38] <BluesKaj> soon, of course that's asuming you have the xine-engine installed
[05:39] <Derminator> Hello @ all
[05:40] <defrysk> hi
my net is slow so please wait
[05:41] <Derminator> Can somebody help me? I dont have sound at enemy Territorry!
[05:42] <BluesKaj> get on allied tewrritory then
[05:42] <BluesKaj> <---couldn't resist that one , sorry Derminator
[05:42] <balaji> yes i've done it
[05:42] <balaji> no u may please give me the steps
[05:42] <balaji> now
[05:43] <BluesKaj> are you running gparted balaji ?
[05:43] <Qoole> ok, i've setup pam_mount according to: http://schools.coe.ru.ac.za/wiki/ConfigureLinuxDomainClient now when i try to log onto an LTSP client it boots me off.
[05:43] <Qoole> no errors in log
[05:43] <balaji> its giving some error again
[05:43] <Qoole> all successes
[05:44] <balaji> give me the full command
[05:45] <Castor_Troy> balaji full command: man gparted
[05:45] <meloso> Hi does some one know what the extension .rpm stands for and how can i execute?
[05:45] <balaji> iam using kubuntu so would this help?
[05:45] <BluesKaj> balaji, you have to download GParted and burn it to a cd , then make sure you can boot into it to examine your hard drives to do the proper formatting
[05:45] <BluesKaj> !rpm
[05:45] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:47] <defrysk> meloso, for what package ?
[05:47] <balaji> iam running Gparted but it doesent show up sdb partitions?
[05:47] <Derminator> If somebody can help me by no sound at Enemy Territorry, please write me privat
[05:47] <meloso> well im trying to install java in my kubuntu and i unpacked the file but now its says is a rpm file
[05:48] <balaji> yeah it now shows /dev/sdb now what should i do?
[05:48] <defrysk> meloso, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[05:48] <defrysk> meloso, thats all
[05:48] <Castor_Troy> balaji so what do you want?
[05:49] <balaji> now how to partition this drive and set the labels etc?
[05:49] <Castor_Troy> balaji whats file system do you have in that partition?
[05:50] <balaji> currently its unalloacated
[05:51] <Castor_Troy> balaji ok..create partiton
[05:52] <Castor_Troy> balaji and choose filesystem
[05:52] <balaji> its asking for the disklabel so what should i put?
[05:52] <Castor_Troy> balaji what do you want )) it's not principal ))
[05:53] <meloso1> where can i find that sun java6-plugin?
[05:53] <balaji> ??
[05:54] <balaji> its showing parttion as unallocated
[05:54] <balaji> filesystem as unallocated
[05:54] <balaji> size as 74.53 gib
[05:55] <meloso1> where can i find that sun java6-plugin?
[05:55] <Castor_Troy> balaji did you push Apply?
[05:56] <BluesKaj> yeah the checmark in toolbar , balaji
[05:56] <Kartibok> Hi all - if I do a back up of the home folder will it also keep my internet favorites and email settings?
[05:56] <BluesKaj> err checkmark
[05:57] <balaji> there is only one option highlighted that is new
[05:57] <balaji> and it asks me to create a file label for device
[05:57] <meloso1> Hi, i need to install java into kubunto how can i do taht?
[05:57] <Castor_Troy> balaji enter any label
[05:57] <balaji> the options given are ms-dos amiga dvh loop etc
[05:58] <Castor_Troy> balaji and go Edit -> Apply
[05:58] <balaji> for ms-dos it gives error
[05:58] <mhb> hi all kubuntu lovers and friends
[05:59] <meloso1> Hi does anyone know where can i get the java plug in so i can run java applets?
[05:59] <mhb> I have a special question for you all - how many of you do use the "Add/Remove Programs" application?
[05:59] <balaji> any label it gives error while setting labe
[06:00] <defrysk> meloso1 i already told you what to install
[06:00] <defrysk> meloso, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[06:00] <meloso1> it told it cannt find it ?
[06:00] <Castor_Troy> balaji in label field enter 1
[06:00] <vincent> hi
[06:00] <defrysk> !repos > meloso1
[06:00] <Castor_Troy> balaji press ok and push Apply
[06:00] <meloso1> it says it coulnt find package sun-java6-plug in
[06:01] <vincent> i cant find any mic/audio function in Kopete
[06:01] <vincent> does it have any?
[06:01] <defrysk> meloso, you have to set up your repositories
[06:01] <meloso1> how do i  do that .. SOrry im new to this stuff
[06:01] <defrysk> meloso1, if I am correct you got a private message from ubotu with some explantion
[06:02] <balaji> but it gives only options for label no manual entry possible?
[06:02] <VincentMX> hi deFrysk
[06:02] <meloso1> yeah i got it going to chek it out thanks
[06:02] <defrysk> moloso1good luck
[06:02] <Castor_Troy> blyaaa
[06:03] <lucky_lucas> hi I'm looking for links to manage a usb headset on kubuntu, does anyone has a clue ?
[06:04] <balaji> hey its not formatted in first place
[06:04] <Castor_Troy> balaji whats' mean first place/
[06:04] <Castor_Troy> ?
[06:05] <Castor_Troy> anybody know russian language?
[06:05] <lucky_lucas> I'm using the asoundconf-gtk frontend, but i would like to have a more convenient and user capable way
[06:05] <lucky_lucas> Castor_Troy: no
[06:05] <balaji> i mean its not formatted
[06:05] <netgooroo> whats the story with the new distro???  people likin it..?
[06:05] <balaji> to FAT or Ntfs
[06:06] <Castor_Troy> balaji do you need ntfs?
[06:06] <Castor_Troy> balaji for ms windows?
[06:06] <netgooroo> ??
[06:06] <balaji> yes
[06:07] <sivaji> balaji where u r from ?
[06:07] <balaji> india
[06:07] <Funkah> India
[06:07] <Castor_Troy> balaji easy way: boot from ms windows disk, install this s...t, and after install kubuntu
[06:07] <CaBlGuY> now..  anyone??
[06:08] <Castor_Troy> balaji under windows you can create partitions for linux
[06:08] <CaBlGuY> !Java5-jre
[06:09] <BluesKaj> yes balaji , it's always best to install windows first, to preserve it's bootloader
[06:09] <sivaji> !shipit
[06:09] <LjL> actually, it's to preserve *ubuntu's* bootloader =)
[06:10] <sivaji> what happen to ubout
[06:10] <LjL> sivaji, CaBlGuY, pm the bot. which is unavailable right now, anyway.
[06:10] <CaBlGuY> yea..  what happened to him??
[06:10] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[06:11] <Castor_Troy> !ubout restart
[06:11] <Castor_Troy> ))
[06:11] <CaBlGuY> ok, how do I go about installing Java??
[06:11] <CaBlGuY> whats the command?
[06:11] <defrysk> CaBlGuY,  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[06:11] <CaBlGuY> K..
[06:11] <sivaji> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[06:12] <CaBlGuY> K, didn't work..  says couldn't find the package..
[06:13] <defrysk> !repos > CaBlGuY
[06:13] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, set up your repos check ubotu's message
[06:13] <Castor_Troy> and no russian man here? )) i can't believe
[06:14] <Funkah> Why d'ya wanna talk to someone russian?
[06:14] <defrysk> !ru
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> defrysk, I would if Ubotu was up..  :p
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> !Ubotu
[06:15] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[06:15] <sivaji> ubotu  is down
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> word..  ;)
[06:15] <word> -_-
[06:15] <otero> HI
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[06:15] <ardchoille> CaBlGuY: ubotu is connected, he just isn't in this channel.
[06:15] <defrysk> word, word.
[06:15] <otero> Im upgrading to fiesty fawn, what do i put in the MDADM dialog box?
[06:15] <word> >.>
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> word word, n stuff..
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> :p
[06:17] <cleit0n> how i upgrade ubuntu .. i install kubuntu  5 2.6.10-5-386
 i was doing my engg project in linux
[06:17] <sivaji> balaji which college what is u r project
[06:18] <pyrotix> how risky is upgrading edgy to feisty?
[06:18] <balaji> now thts over s i want to install ubuntu in a usb hardrive that i own and have two partions in it for linux and windows i use a laptop so i would install windows on it and when required would boot from usb
[06:19] <defrysk> pyrotix, if you have a proper backup , none
[06:19] <balaji> father Conceicao rodrigues institute of technology
[06:19] <eXistenz> Is it recommended to upgrade to KDE 3.5.7 ?
[06:19] <cleit0n> balaji: i try this..
 u from which place?
 wat?
[06:20] <defrysk> eXistenz, not specificly, as in there are no security fixes for the packages when needed
[06:20] <pyrotix> defrysk: but restoring proper backups is time consuming and maybe something I don't want to do if failure is likely. Is it as failure prone as dapper -> edgy
[06:20] <sivaji> balaji i am from chennai but u didnt reply for me
[06:20] <pyrotix> ?
[06:20] <defrysk> eXistenz, but if you like bleeding , go for it :)
[06:20] <balaji> i have replied just see on the screen
[06:21] <eXistenz> defrysk: How much memory do you use?
[06:21] <defrysk> eXistenz, I have 80% free at the moment
[06:21] <sivaji> balaji which college what is u r project
[06:21] <LjL> !offtopic
Father Conceicao rodrigues institute of technology
[06:22] <defrysk> pyrotix, there is always chance of failure
[06:22] <eXistenz> defrysk: Do you have 1GB?
[06:22] <defrysk> eXistenz, 2
[06:22] <defrysk> no one
[06:22] <defrysk> you are correct
[06:23] <eXistenz> defrysk: I have 512MB. Maybe I have to get another 512MB
[06:23] <defrysk> 80% is cached tho
?
[06:23] <defrysk> so it looks like its using 100%
[06:23] <defrysk> but in reality its 20 %
[06:24] <cleit0n> how i update ubuntu here? i have edgy
[06:24] <otero> software update
[06:24] <busfahrer> When I remove an *unused* SATA controller from my system, I only got a blank screen with a blinking cursor instead of GRUB. Any ideas?
 ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:24] <kain> hello
[06:25] <kain> i need help getting a dell 1390 to work on 7.4
[06:25] <kain> i have tried ubuntu opensuse freedsb
[06:25] <cleit0n> balaji: kubuntu
[06:25] <kain> i just want to be able to go wireless with linux
[06:25] <kain> and i have followed faqs
[06:25] <kain> just tried one for kubuntu that looked promising
[06:25] <cleit0n> balaji: make diference?
[06:25] <kain> i'm like one stop away
[06:25] <kain> is someone avail/willing to help?
[06:26] <cleit0n> balaji: u have source.list to do?
[06:26] <eXistenz> defrysk: How would you install skype on feisty? skype.com package?
[06:26] <balaji> ok go to adept and enble edgy repos<if diabled> and then click ftch upgrades it should show up some no of upgrades just aplly
[06:26] <ardchoille> balaji: Mixing repos is a bad thing to do.
[06:27] <busfahrer> eXistenz: Just use the .deb from skype.com and add a Menu entry, done.
[06:27] <balaji> iam not asking him to mix repo it should be present in the /etc/sources.list i suppose
[06:27] <kain> can i just drop the driver in the right dir and not go through the terminal or anything?
[06:28] <jaevel> anyone around that can help with my nvidia driver? despite everything i have read and several suggestions from here, i still am unable to get the stupid driver running?
[06:28] <felipe> ardchoille's
[06:28] <ardchoille> Great, now my repos smell like fish
[06:28] <ardchoille> :)
[06:28] <felipe> :)
[06:30] <balaji> <sivaji > do u have any soln to my problem?
[06:30] <sivaji> i didnt see
[06:31] <balaji>  i want to install ubuntu in a usb hardrive that i own and have two partions in it for linux and windows i use a laptop so i would install windows on it and when required would boot from usb
[06:32] <sivaji> go to bios enable boot from usb option
[06:32] <balaji> hardrive size =80 gb
[06:32] <balaji> but its not formatted in any form
[06:33] <balaji> do u have a yahoo id?
[06:33] <sivaji> have u install ubuntu or not
[06:33] <balaji> no its not formatted
[06:33] <Kartibok> kain:  are you still having trouble with your usb wireless
[06:33] <sivaji> ya sivaji_2009@yahoo.com
[06:34] <kain> not usb
[06:34] <kain> internal dell broadcom 1390
[06:34] <kain> i've tried ubutnu opensuse freedsb looked at tons of faqs
[06:34] <Kartibok> has your OS picked it up automatically?
[06:35] <sivaji> balaji are u there
[06:35] <BluesKaj> balaji, how much room on the HDD are you going to use for each OS ?
[06:35] <balaji> on USB?
[06:35] <balaji> yes
[06:35] <kain> and tried kubutnu 7.4 because this looked easy http://www.linux-geek.org/index.php/2007/04/22/dell-1390-native-linux-driver-how-to-updated
[06:36] <kain> nope
[06:36] <kain> seems it has lots of issues with linux
[06:36] <Kartibok> there is a website http://linuxwireless.org/ try it and look for your card
[06:37] <kain> ok
[06:37] <kain> i know i need the bcm43xx
[06:37] <kain> and i need the driver which i have the windows vers but i did get one from that tutorial that is a ko
[06:37] <kain> followed all the steps
[06:38] <balaji> sivaji can u come into ur yahoo messenger?
[06:38] <Kartibok> I must admit mine (usb) worked straight from a clean install. I just gave it a fixed IP address and added the SSID name and password
[06:38] <kain> i have problems at this step in his tutorial (the last) And finally, we replace the bcm43xx driver provided by the Ubuntu kernel with the driver ported by me, from the 2.6.21-rc7 kernel.
[06:38] <kain> says it can't find the tarball
[06:38] <kain> and it seems to me i have the path and filename right
[06:38] <sivaji> balaji i dont hava ymessenger using kopete
[06:39] <kain> i used the packet inject vers and changed the command to match
[06:39] <balaji> yeah its ok but ur yahoo server is enabled on it no?
[06:40] <sivaji> tell me u r yahoo username
[06:40] <sivaji> balaji tell me u r yahoo username
[06:40] <balaji> balaji_trv@yahoo.co.in
[06:41] <kain> Kartibok:?
[06:41] <Kartibok> sorry was away
[06:42] <balaji> sivaji:have u added?
[06:42] <Kartibok> kain: did the fresh install find the device ?
[06:43] <sivaji> ya i added still i show u r offline
[06:45] <balaji> send me a message
[06:45] <kain> i'm stuck on the last step
[06:45] <kain> And finally, we replace the bcm43xx driver provided by the Ubuntu kernel with the driver ported by me, from the 2.6.21-rc7 kernel.
[06:45] <kain> i try it and it says it can't find the file
[06:46] <kain> i've tried changing the path and making sure it works
[06:46] <kain> after i did the first part my wireless light came on byt no connection
[06:46] <kain> i need to get this driver installed somehow bcm43xx.ko
[06:47] <Kartibok> have you tried the iwconfig command to see if it sees any network?
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[06:48] <sivaji> balaji i cant "sivaji_2009" this is my username u try send a message to me
[06:49] <balaji> sivaji did u get it?
[06:49] <sivaji> no
[06:50] <sivaji> how to configure kopete it show everyone offline but they are online
[06:51] <balaji> try gaim
[06:51] <sercik> do you use msn protocol??
[06:51] <kain> Kartibok yes i have and it doesn't
[06:51] <kain> the wireless light is on
[06:52] <Kartibok> so you have link quality 0/100 and signal level 0/100
[06:52] <sivaji> sercik are u asking me
[06:52] <kain> all i have when i run iwlist scan is lo and eth0 and they don't support scanning
[06:52] <Kartibok> have you tried sudo ifup eth0 (or what ever yours is?)
[06:52] <stdin> kain: does "iwlist scan" show anything?
[06:53] <stdin> ah :p
[06:53] <kain> sudo modprobe bcm43xx gives me: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko': No such file or directory
[06:53] <napper_> hi :)
[06:53] <Minataku> Hm
[06:53] <sivaji> stdin help me
[06:53] <Minataku>  12:51:00 up 76 days,  8:19,  6 users,  load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00
[06:54] <sivaji> tell me how to configure kopete it show everyone offline but they are online
[06:54] <stdin> kain: did you download http://linux-geek.org/files/bcm43xx.tar.bz2 and extract it to "/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/" like the page says?
[06:54] <stdin> sivaji: huh? you mean so you're invisible ?
[06:55] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/home$ sudo ifup eth0
[06:55] <kain> ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[06:55] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/home$ sudo ifup eth0
[06:55] <kain> ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[06:55] <napper_> i searching an good MP3 and OGG player ... i tried xmms and amarok but both didn match what i looking for ... i port my system from windows and looking for a player like foobar2000
[06:55] <stdin> sivaji: or it's like they all are
[06:55] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/home$ sudo ifup eth0
[06:55] <kain> oops sorry
[06:55] <sivaji> i cant get connect to other
[06:55] <kain> stdin i did the inject version
[06:56] <kain> i have a copy in /home/kain and one on the Desktop
[06:56] <stdin> sivaji: hmm, check your router/firewall settings maybe
[06:56] <kain> plus i already extracted the ko
[06:56] <kain> to both those places
[06:56] <stdin> kain: yeah, but you have to copy it to "/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/"
[06:56] <kain> do i have to make that dir by hand?
[06:56] <c1|freaky> hi all. is someone familiar with Kontact? I keep getting a error message that "the server doesnt support TLS" i probably have set up some groupware server or something but i cant find something where i can remove that server thing :\
[06:57] <BluesKaj> napper , amarok should fill your needs if foobar2k is your fav...amarok just has to be configged to your taste is all
[06:57] <stdin> kain: the dir is already there, just copy the .ko file there
[06:58] <kain> it's not on my install
[06:58] <sivaji> when i tried to send mail using kmail i got this "Please create an account for sending and try again" i dont know where i am suppose to create a accoung
[06:58] <sivaji> when i tried to send mail using kmail i got this "Please create an account for sending and try again" i dont know where i am suppose to create a account
[06:59] <balaji> sivaji:new to ubuntu?
[06:59] <stdin> kain: it should be, try "sudo mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/ " then copy the .ko file there
[06:59] <sivaji> yes
[06:59] <Kartibok> c1|freaky: You just need to untick the TLS in your SMTP tab
[06:59] <balaji> what do u do?
[06:59] <sivaji> started only two months before
[06:59] <napper_> ok i will give amarok a second chance ... thank u
[06:59] <sivaji> engg 2nd year cse
[07:00] <napper_> and linux have never been so easy before i tried kubuntu
[07:00] <sivaji> balaji what is ur prob
[07:00] <stdin> amarok is the best thing since sliced bread
[07:01] <balaji>  i want to install ubuntu in a usb hardrive that i own and have two partions in it for linux and windows i use a laptop so i would install windows on it and when required would boot from usb
[07:01] <BluesKaj> ama-roks!
[07:01] <napper_> :D
[07:01] <kain> stdin ok the folder is there
[07:01] <kain> but i try to paste i get access denied
[07:02] <kain> the ko is on my desktop
[07:02] <napper_> adept manager is sooooo cool
[07:02] <Peaker_> gutsy gibbon broke hibernation didn't it?
[07:02] <Peaker_> napper_: except when there are any errors of any kind :)
[07:02] <Peaker_> then it totally sucks
[07:02] <Peaker_> heh
[07:02] <Kartibok> Open Kontact >Settings>Kmail>Accounts>Sending>Modify your account>Security Tab> Encryption> set to none
[07:02] <stdin> kain: try "sudo cp ~/Desktop/bcm43xx.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/"
[07:03] <Kartibok> c1|freaky: Open Kontact >Settings>Kmail>Accounts>Sending>Modify your account>Security Tab> Encryption> set to none
[07:03] <nahemoth> Is it possible to use Opera in Kubuntu
[07:03] <stdin> !opera
[07:03] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:03] <kain> ok i do it hit enter and i get: kain@kain-laptop:/home$
[07:03] <stanley> hi guys
[07:03] <kain> :)
[07:04] <kain> YOU ROCK
[07:04] <kain> let me reboot bro
[07:04] <stanley> i am trying to install/configure my dial up modem
[07:04] <santoD> hey
[07:04] <stanley> i have used to scanmodem tool
[07:04] <stanley> after running it i think i've gotten my information
[07:04] <santoD> knetworkmanager doesn't show any wlans?
[07:04] <sivaji> balaji i cant get u what u want to do now
[07:04] <stanley> but now i don't know what to do next
[07:04] <stanley> i don't kno how to install the driver
[07:04] <stanley> plz...someone help
[07:05] <stdin> !modem
[07:05] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:05] <sivaji> balaji
[07:05] <sivaji> balaji  do u hava ubuntu livecd
[07:07] <sivaji>  balaji are u there
[07:07] <hsystem-x> lol
[07:08] <balaji> yeah i have both 6.06 and 7.04
[07:08] <sivaji> then what start installation with 7.04 in usb
[07:09] <gary_> how do i get beryl to launch at kubuntu startup ?
[07:09] <balaji> yes but the usb is not formatted in ntfs or ext3
[07:09] <balaji> i want to create partions first
[07:10] <hsystem-x> gary: http://www.beryl-project.org/ , search there, in the instruction they specify HOW.
[07:10] <sivaji> first insert 7.04 live cd boot from cd u will have install icon that time u format with ext2
[07:10] <hsystem-x> select * ubuntu distro*
[07:11] <napper_> ah cool ... amarok plays titles out of the network :)
[07:11] <Kartibok> Quick one, where would I install something like Real Player as I am unsure about the file system
[07:11] <balaji> ok and for the windows partions?
[07:11] <kain> THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! :)
[07:11] <kain> i have wireless now just can't use it cuz i need the key but you rock and so does Kubutnu Linux!
[07:12] <sivaji> u r system is already having some os or not
[07:12] <stdin> napper_: yeah, I'm playing my music from my server (down stairs) wirelessly :)
[07:12] <balaji> yes
[07:12] <balaji> but usb doesnt
[07:12] <Kartibok> Quick one, where would I install something like Real Player as I am unsure about the file system
[07:13] <sivaji> u have xp installed on u r harddisk is it
[07:13] <kain> sdin you are the man
 just download the dpkg package from real player site
[07:13] <kain> i tried ubutnu opensuse and freedsb with no luck
[07:13] <stdin> Kartibok: the installers usually give sane defaults, like /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin (for system wide installs)
[07:13] <balaji> and if u want u van keep it in /usr/bin
[07:14] <napper_> stdin: how can i sort my collection by directory structure?
[07:14] <Kartibok> I downloaded the realplay 10 .bin to my desktop should I have downloaded another file?
[07:14] <kain> how could i crack my work's wep key?
[07:14] <sivaji> which os u have already and where u have install it , in u harddisk or usb
[07:14] <kain> so i don't have to wait for it on tues
[07:14] <sivaji> balaji which os u have already and where u have install it , in u harddisk or usb
[07:15] <balaji> kubuntu 6.10 in harddrive which i want to remove
[07:15] <ownsnofn> efef
[07:15] <Kartibok> stdin: I will go for /usr/bin thanks
[07:15] <stdin> napper_: you mean rather than by artest/album?
[07:15] <stdin> kain: you'll have to search google for that one
[07:16] <ownsnofn> why doesn't knetworkmanager work any more? it doesn't show any wlans
[07:17] <napper_> stdin: it should have the directory structure how it on my disc
[07:18] <sivaji> balaji first install windows ,when u put u r windows boot disk it will show all partition u delete which ever u dont want and later install kubuntu7.04
[07:18] <stdin> napper_: you just open the Files tab, on the left
[07:18] <balaji> ok thanks
[07:18] <Castor_Troy> balaji as same as i told you  - install windows first
[07:18] <sivaji> balaji where u r from
[07:19] <balaji> mumbai
[07:19] <sivaji> how long u r using kubuntu
[07:19] <balaji> 10 months or so
[07:19] <sivaji> balaji how long u r using kubuntu
[07:20] <hyper_ch> hiho, how does one get the kernel source?
[07:20] <balaji> 10 mnths
[07:21] <stdin> hyper_ch: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.20 (if you're on 2.6.20)
[07:21] <hyper_ch> stdin: thx :)
[07:22] <hyper_ch> so it's  sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[07:22] <stdin> not quite, no
[07:22] <napper_> stdin: ah! cool! now amarok is MY PLAYER :D
[07:22] <napper_> thanks so much
[07:22] <stdin> `uname -r` would be "2.6.20-15-generic"
[07:23] <stdin> napper_: no problem, amarok is (IMO) the best player in linux
[07:23] <hyper_ch> stdin: yes, you're right :)
[07:24] <balaji> thanks everybody bye
[07:24] <napper_> i tried linux a few times ... at most fedora and othe redhat clones .. but the communities never where so cool like this and never direct help me ...
[07:25] <stdin> yeah, we rule :)
[07:25] <napper_> YES
[07:25] <hyper_ch> ;)
[07:25] <stdin> !botsnack
[07:26] <sivaji>  napper_ that is a special feature  in kubuntu
[07:26] <hsystem-x> is a bot what do you expect lol ^^
[07:26] <napper_> (k)ubuntu is so cool and simple
[07:26] <ubuntu> Bonjour
[07:26] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:26] <ubuntu> Hi
[07:26] <napper_> a cool community is a feature? :D
[07:26] <sivaji> exactly simply super kubuntu
[07:26] <Solust> I have a problem trying to install wlassistant.  When I copy the config file into the terminal I get this:
[07:27] <Solust> solust@solust-desktop:~/wlassistant-0.5.7$ '/home/solust/wlassistant-0.5.7/configure'
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for Python               :  -e /usr/bin/python
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for SCons                :  -e not found, will use mini distribution.
[07:27] <Solust> scons: Reading SConscript files ...
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for kde-config           :  kde-config was found as /usr/bin/kde-config
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for kde version          :  3.5.6
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for the qt library       :  qt was not found
[07:27] <stdin> hello ubuntu, if you want french help, join #kubuntu-fr
[07:27] <Solust> Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) or try scons -h for more options
[07:27] <Solust> Can anyone help please?
[07:27] <da> hi
[07:27] <sivaji> Solust use pastebin
[07:27] <Jucato> !paste | Solust
[07:27] <ubuntu> Thanks ^
[07:27] <ubotu> Solust: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:27] <dr_willis> sounds like you need to isntall several developer packages
[07:28] <stanley> hi guys
[07:28] <dawhim> hi
[07:28] <stanley> i am having a serious problem installing my internal modem
[07:28] <napper_> thanks a last time ... so the next time i have a questin i will join again :D but now i will enjoy my music :D
[07:29] <stdin> Solust: try "sudo apt-get build-dep wlassistant" first
[07:29] <napper_> bye
[07:29] <napper_> :)
[07:29] <BluesKaj> cool napper
[07:29] <stdin> bye :)
[07:29] <stanley> the sl-modem-daemon-modules package states it has a conflict in adept
[07:29] <stanley> what can i do to fix this?
[07:30] <stanley> is anyone familiar with dial up modems?
[07:31] <hsystem-x> stanley, if it is a conexant, there is no free drivers for it.
[07:31] <stdin> stanley: try "sl-modem-daemon" not "sl-modem-modules"
[07:31] <stanley> yea i installed sl-modem-daemon, but sl-modem-modules is int he package relationshp stdin
[07:34] <HymnToLife> stanley, are you at least sure you need slmodem ?
[07:34] <stanley> that's what i read on the ubuntu documentation
[07:34] <stanley> is there another way to configure my modem hymntolife??
[07:35] <HymnToLife> depends what kind of modem it is
[07:35] <HymnToLife> please do a scanModem scan and pastebin the results
[07:35] <stdin> !pastebin
[07:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:39] <nahemoth> instead of HJSPLIT, what can I use?
[07:39] <cox377> does anyone here use ncftp?
[07:39] <illriginal> Hey guys?... How would I be able to back up my bookmarks? I want to install Ubuntu Feisty but I don't want to lose my bookmarks. I'm currently on Ubuntu Edgy
[07:39] <nahemoth> for Kubuntu
[07:39] <HymnToLife> illriginal, separathe home partition ?
[07:40] <nahemoth> illriginal:  check for your browser's file, there must be a file which keeps your bookmarks also search engines...etc
[07:40] <cox377> or more to the point does anyone know how to download a hole folder, command wise
[07:40] <nahemoth> illriginal: after the installation, you can replace the file
[07:40] <HymnToLife> cox377, wget ?
[07:40] <nahemoth> instead of HJSPLIT, what can I use?
[07:41] <HymnToLife> !repeat | nahemoth
[07:41] <ubotu> nahemoth: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:41] <hendaus> !skype
[07:41] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:43] <lfranchi>  can someone tell me what package the new_wlan_scan_sta module is in? i'm desperately trying to load it and can't
[07:43] <felzix> go into your browser and: Bookmarks -> Edit Bookmarks -> File -> Save as... (or export)
[07:44] <felzix> illriginal
[07:44] <HymnToLife> :find new_wlan
[07:44] <HymnToLife> !find new_wlan
[07:44] <ubotu> Package/file new_wlan does not exist in feisty
[07:44] <HymnToLife> hmm
[07:44] <illriginal> flezix?
[07:44] <HymnToLife> lfranchi, what are you looking for, exactly ?
[07:45] <lfranchi> i see howtos on the web saying to modprobe it
[07:45] <lfranchi> its for the atheros wireless card (in this case a macbook pro)
[07:45] <felzix> illriginal: you want to save your bookmarks, right?  what browser do you use?
[07:45] <illriginal> i figured it out... went to bookmarks, organize, export, then emailed myself the bookmarks.html file
[07:45] <felzix> ah, FF
[07:45] <illriginal> :)
[07:45] <lfranchi> i *think* its in restricted drivers or whatever, but its not for me
[07:45] <illriginal> the one and only
[07:45] <felzix> glad you worked it out :)
[07:45] <illriginal> yep
[07:45] <illriginal> well time to install feisty :D
[07:46] <ricardo_> anyone have any EVDO configs
[07:46] <lfranchi> HymnToLife: is there some way to check what package it exists in?
[07:46] <ricardo_> I got a a Dell D620 with EVDO from Verizon
[07:46] <fdoving> lfranchi: you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com for that.
[07:46] <HymnToLife> lfranchi, it doesn't seem to exist in any package...
[07:47] <lfranchi> that can't be right
[07:47] <HymnToLife> see for yourself...
[07:47] <lfranchi> i think i know
[07:47] <lfranchi> it might be in a newer restricted-modules-generic
[07:49] <fdoving> lfranchi: it's been renamed to wlan_scan_sta
[07:51] <lfranchi> fdoving: oh. thanks
[07:55] <wolferine> anyone use Crossover, im trying to speed up how it uses games
[07:56] <c1|freaky> Kartibok: thx ^^
[07:56] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[07:57] <felzix> hendaus: state a problem
[07:57] <titanix88> try cedega
[07:57] <wolferine> !help hendaus
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help hendaus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <hendaus> felzix:  thanx, but i have install nokia suite with wine, and doesnot work
[07:57] <wolferine> CEDEGA
[07:58] <wolferine> ops
[07:58] <wolferine> good idea
[07:59] <hendaus> wolferine:  my nokia cell is 6230 and i try nokia suite on wine and doesnot work
[07:59] <titanix88> anyway if cedega is wines fork, is it possible to fork wine open sourcebly again for a gaming compatibility layer(not emulator ;)?
[08:00] <timmay> does anyone use SJPhone?
[08:00] <titanix88> perheps someone should stand up for it.
[08:01] <wolferine> timmay, whats that?
[08:01] <wolferine> softphone?
[08:01] <timmay> yes
[08:01] <titanix88> "hendaus"if you're using it as a modem, try using "wvdial". Or can try "gnokii". Don;t need wine.
[08:02] <titanix88> Noop!!!
[08:03] <hendaus> titanix88:  i have a usb cable dku-2 , nokia 6230, so is it works with gnokii and wvdial?
[08:04] <titanix88> type "sudo wvdialconf"
[08:04] <titanix88> edit"/etc/wvdial.conf"
[08:05] <frojnd> has somone try to install bluetooth headset by this how to http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/build.html  What I don't understand is that I can't find sample.a2dprc or a2dprc, even though everything went smood untill point I'd had to cp alsa-plugins/sample.a2dprc ~/.a2dprc  There is no such file on my computer..!! arh.. anyone please ??
[08:05] <titanix88> set your passwd, username and dialing number(uncomment the lines first)
[08:05] <Kartibok> c1|freaky: no probs hope it works
[08:06] <titanix88> then just "wvdial" on command line
[08:06] <hendaus> titanix88:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22600/
[08:07] <titanix88> gnokii is pretty primitive but you should have doing a lot works with it.
[08:07] <timmay> how can i tell what /dev is my audio?
[08:07] <timmay> i'm sleecting mixer for everything but it isn't working for my softphone
[08:08] <titanix88> by the way gnokii is a phone organiser.
[08:09] <hendaus> titanix88:  help me please friend,coz i have files document on my cell phone and i need them on my pc
[08:12] <titanix88> you have to be root user to edit /etc/wvdial.conf
[08:12] <hendaus> titanix88: ok tell me how to enter as root
[08:13] <titanix88> perheps gnokii can help you obtain your files though i am not sure. i was only able to dial through my nokia 6630.
[08:14] <titanix88> Nothing else!!!
[08:14] <hendaus> titanix88:  lets try
[08:14] <hendaus> titanix88:  my connection is adsl
[08:14] <titanix88> But you can check the doc. They say they support a lot of phones.
[08:15] <hendaus> titanix88:  so help me and tell me what can i do?
[08:15] <titanix88> OOps!That was abig mistake. :)
[08:17] <titanix88> hendaus: wvdial is not for you. You should try installing "gnokii". There are a lot of doc inside it's doc directory.Read it & try it.
[08:18] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok i open adept and ilet me see the gnokii
[08:21] <hendaus> titanix88:  done
[08:21] <hendaus> titanix88:  now what can i do
[08:21] <nel> hole
[08:21] <nel> hola
[08:21] <nel> komo estan?
[08:21] <nel> hablan espaol
[08:21] <nel> ?
[08:21] <hendaus> titanix88:  how can i see the module nokia 6230
[08:22] <hendaus> !es | nel
[08:22] <ubotu> nel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:22] <nel> ok i see tha not speak spanish
[08:22] <nel> ok thanks ubotu
[08:24] <titanix88> go to "/usr/share/doc/gnokii/" and try some manuals. By the way my NOKIA 6630 was kidnapped so i'm stucked with a siemenscx75 :( Don't have gnokii anymore
[08:24] <timmay> what's the default audio device in /dev/
[08:24] <timmay> for onbaord audio jacks
[08:25] <hendaus> titanix88: how can i try some manuals, can u tell me please1
[08:26] <timmay> and what would be the USB device?
[08:27] <titanix88> hendaus: just like i said.Open your file manager and go to /usr/share/doc/gnokii and there should be some "read me" and etc. Read them.
[08:28] <hendaus> titanix88:  gnokki doesnot have the option to transfer the images from my cellphone
[08:28] <titanix88> timmy:perhaps /dev/audio
[08:28] <Sparc42> hello
[08:29] <frojnd> how can I unistall what I have installed by this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22602/ help is welcome!
[08:29] <BenWhitey> hey
[08:30] <BenWhitey> does ndiswrapper have KDE support?
[08:30] <titanix88> Sorry about that. These is the typical GNU/Linux fraustration. Companies does help FOSS project's so they take long time to mature.Perheps someday gnokii will have satisfy your needs.
[08:31] <chrissss> !debug apt-get
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debug apt-get - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <chrissss> !debug apt
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debug apt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <fdoving> chrissss: what are you trying to do?
[08:31] <Sparc42> can anyone help me with mount points for my DVD ROM and DVD writer
[08:31] <chrissss> adept debug
[08:31] <BenWhitey> does ndiswrapper have KDE support?
[08:31] <fdoving> !adeptfix | chrissss ?
[08:31] <ubotu> chrissss ?: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:31] <chrissss> yes
[08:32] <fdoving> Sparc42: it's usually /media/cdrom
[08:32] <Sparc42> ok
[08:32] <fdoving> Sparc42: or /media/cdrom0
[08:32] <titanix88> ubotu: try "make uninstall"
[08:32] <jsubl2> anyone using a webcam with kopete
[08:32] <Sparc42> thank you
[08:34] <BenWhitey> does ndiswrapper have KDE support?
[08:34] <BenWhitey> i.e. will it work in kubuntu?
[08:35] <Sparc42> ok well I set one to cdrom0 and the other to cdrom1 and i get errors... hence my visit here
[08:35] <hendaus> titanix88:  on option there is : bindir: /usr/sbin
[08:35] <hendaus> what should it be
[08:36] <titanix88> hendaus: can you post at least the line?
[08:38] <BenWhitey> i'm trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=434595&page=4 but i get an error about the lack of gnome, can someone tell me what i do to follow the instructions in kde
[08:38] <BenWhitey> **with kde
[08:38] <BenWhitey> or should i jus tignore it
[08:38] <hendaus> titanix88:  brb ,,,,
[08:40] <secret> can someone help me out with a problem I'm having with my sound? I installed Kubuntu and I'm only getting sound from one side of my speakers and headphones?
[08:41] <mas195> hi everyone
[08:41] <secret> help me me out please?
[08:41] <secret> any suggestions?
[08:41] <secret> hi mas
[08:41] <mas195> i have a problem that i cannot get around... being a complete newb
[08:41] <secret> me too = newb
[08:41] <secret> having probs with my sound
[08:42] <mas195> when i launch the adept package manager an error comes up stating that another programs is accessing the database but nothing else is running....
[08:42] <secret> yeah look down on the task bar
[08:42] <secret> do you have an exclaimnation mark there
[08:42] <mas195> i have but nothing is running
[08:43] <secret> log off, then log back on
[08:43] <mas195> and no, the auto update icon is not present...
[08:43] <secret> auto update aye?
[08:43] <secret> ook
[08:43] <titanix88> secret: u have newly installed linux?
[08:43] <mas195> i have tried that too, and restarting and shutting down and coming back up but no luck
[08:43] <mas195> yeah... just last night
[08:43] <secret> oi, im only getting sound from one speaker?
[08:43] <secret> yes
[08:43] <secret> only just ten minutes ago
[08:44] <secret> sick of windows and their dam error reporting
[08:44] <mas195> ditto
[08:44] <titanix88> secret: did they sound fine b4?
[08:44] <secret> with windows, yes
[08:44] <titanix88> i mean in windows?
[08:45] <secret> in windows it was fine
[08:45] <secret> but with linux, it's strange
[08:45] <secret> i side is real low, while the other side is normal
[08:45] <secret> 1
[08:45] <titanix88> secret: do u find tyhe sound applet?
[08:45] <secret> what's this?
[08:45] <secret> Kmix?
[08:46] <secret> where's this applet?
[08:46] <titanix88> ya, configured it?
[08:46] <secret> i played around with it to try and fix it but no good
[08:46] <titanix88> bottom right corner of screen
[08:47] <titanix88> tried to balance the sounds?
[08:48] <secret> I see no options where I can balance the sounds
[08:48] <titanix88> theres a balance bar at bottom of kmix configure diag
[08:49] <titanix88> ryt click kmix and select <show mixer window>
[08:49] <secret> ok
[08:49] <secret> ?
[08:50] <secret> HD ULI thing?
[08:50] <titanix88> at the bottom of the mixer window see a bar? set it to middle
[08:50] <secret> It is set to the middle friend
[08:51] <secret> there's something wrong
[08:51] <secret> hey, when I mute, it dosen't work
[08:52] <secret> wtf? still sound from youtube
[08:52] <titanix88> from keyboard?
[08:52] <secret> from keyboard and icon
[08:53] <secret> dosen't mute
[08:53] <Sparc42> does KDE distinguish between CD and DVD?  ie /media/cdrom1 is actually a DVD writer
[08:53] <secret> you want me to put dvd in?
[08:53] <BluesKaj> secret, still hve yer browser open but minimized perhaps?
[08:53] <Sparc42> b/c I get this error trying to mount: The system reported: mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[08:53] <BluesKaj> Sparc42, yes
[08:53] <titanix88> spark: no, its all the same
[08:54] <secret> i have youtube running ok
[08:54] <Sparc42> ok.  any suggestions on my error then?
[08:54] <mas195> how can i terminate adept database access when adept is not running
[08:54] <secret> when I play an mp3 or anything involving sound, only one side gives sound on stereo and headphones
[08:54] <BluesKaj> hdd is usually the hrd drive not the dvd/cdrom drive
[08:55] <oldwest> hay all - any ideas on getting divx to play in website?
[08:55] <BluesKaj> secret, in the terminal type alsamixer ...try setting your balances in there
[08:56] <Sparc42> yea that's what I thought...  i have 2 drives mount points are /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 type auto for both and devices are /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 both are disabled
[08:57] <Sparc42> then when i try to enable i get that error
[08:57] <BluesKaj> Sparc42, , place a cd  in one and check system settings again
[08:58] <mas195> how can i terminate adept database access when adept is not running
[08:58] <BluesKaj> mas195, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:58] <secret> still no good, what could be causing this?
[08:59] <jaime> hola
[08:59] <frojnd> FFS has anyone here managed to install a2dpd driver??? I was trying to install all parts and depdendencies to work bluetooth headset. Bur everything stops when i come to the point that I have to edita2dprc. There is no such file... I was trying to install it by this tutorial, I think all known site: http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/build.html  Can someone tell me where to edit file a2dprc or maybe is another thing?
[08:59] <mas195> thank you... that did the trick...
[08:59] <secret> where's me friend go?
[09:00] <Sparc42> cd inserted. appears as audio cd on desktop but it can't read it
[09:00] <BluesKaj> secret, relogin : ctrl+alt+backspce
[09:00] <mas195> one other problem.... why does the network manager not detect my wireless network....
[09:00] <michael> lol
[09:00] <jaime> hay alguien aqui que hable espaol??? necesito una poca de ayuda
[09:01] <BluesKaj> Sparc42, look in system settings /advanced/disc & file systems
[09:01] <Sparc42> yep there
[09:01] <BluesKaj> !es | jaime
[09:01] <ubotu> jaime: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:01] <jaime> gracias
[09:02] <Castor_Troy> !ru
[09:02] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:02] <konqerr> hi
[09:02] <Funkah> Russian yayay
[09:02] <BluesKaj> !rs
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <konqerr> I need help
[09:02] <konqerr> how do I motn NTFS partition?
[09:02] <BluesKaj> !ru
[09:02] <konqerr> is not showing
[09:02] <konqerr> plase
[09:02] <konqerr> help
[09:02] <Castor_Troy> Funkah what what?
[09:03] <konqerr> anyone?
[09:03] <Funkah> Yay fror russian speak.
[09:03] <BluesKaj> !ru
[09:03] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:03] <Castor_Troy> Funkah    -?
[09:03] <konqerr> anyone??
[09:03] <konqerr> I need to mount NTFS partition
[09:04] <Funkah> Errr.  Njet.
[09:04] <BluesKaj> konqerr, install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config
[09:04] <konqerr> BluesKaj: does the LiveCD have it?
[09:05] <BluesKaj> no
[09:05] <konqerr> I am using LiveCd and have not tiem to go through the install process
[09:05] <konqerr> oh crap
[09:05] <Castor_Troy> Funkah speak russian?
[09:06] <Funkah> Nope.
[09:06] <BluesKaj> well, not totally definite , but you can try mounting thru the system menu
[09:06] <BluesKaj> and storage media
[09:08] <konqerr> who me?
[09:08] <konqerr> wheres that at
[09:08] <BluesKaj> yeah
[09:08] <BluesKaj> beside the K-menu\
[09:08] <konqerr> system settings?
[09:08] <Sparc42> in admin mode.  they are listed there but get the hdd error when I try to enable
[09:08] <konqerr> I guess sharing?
[09:08] <BluesKaj> run the cursor over the panel icons
[09:09] <konqerr> fdisk and filesystem?
[09:09] <konqerr> under advanced?
[09:10] <konqerr> doesn't tell me i can  mount it
[09:11] <konqerr> anyone>?
[09:11] <oldwest> Anyone help on this - Can't play movies online at Divx site?
[09:12] <oldwest> Have every player and codec I can think of or read about for kubnutu
[09:12] <oldwest> still no go..... - frustrating grrrr
[09:13] <konqerr> no
[09:13] <konqerr> doesn't help
[09:13] <konqerr> i need a straight way for doing this without a GUI or front end user
[09:14] <konqerr> WOOT!!!!!!!!
[09:14] <hendaus> titanix88:  i cant see the path /usr/share/doc/gnokii
[09:14] <Sparc42> BluesKaj:  getting this error as root:   The system reported: mount: block device /dev/scd1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[09:14] <Sparc42> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:15] <konqerr> LOL I mounted like this outta desperation
[09:15] <konqerr> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media/m$$$
[09:15] <konqerr> ok
[09:15] <konqerr> now it tells me the permission stuff
[09:15] <illriginal> Can someone help me with checkgmail? I'd like for it to pop up on the taskbar
[09:15] <konqerr> how do I do this?
[09:16] <konqerr> what kinda permissions
[09:16] <konqerr> ok please someone NTFS permissions !!
[09:17] <konqerr> holla back
[09:17] <konqerr> i am desperate
[09:17] <konqerr> need to burn some stuff and m$$ isn't recognizing the DVD RW and linux DOES recognitize it
[09:17] <konqerr> I mounted NTFS
[09:17] <konqerr> I just need the valid permission
[09:17] <BluesKaj> Sparc42, what kind of cd did you mount ?
[09:17] <Sparc42> audio
[09:18] <Sparc42> not sure it is mounted b/c its not able to access it
[09:18] <BluesKaj> burned or original?
[09:18] <Sparc42> original
[09:18] <konqerr> it is mounted
[09:18] <BluesKaj> aha
[09:18] <Sparc42> ?
[09:18] <konqerr> here /dev/sda2 on /media/windows type ntfs (rw)
[09:18] <konqerr> I used mount to see
[09:19] <BluesKaj> try a burned cd and then we ahve a reference
[09:19] <konqerr> OMG please someone what kinda permissions
[09:19] <stellar> Hi! Is there any way i could play my guitar trough some vst-plugins?
[09:19] <illriginal> Can someone help me to get my checkmail to start up when ubuntu starts up?!
[09:19] <BluesKaj> konqerr,  -su
[09:20] <illriginal> Can someone help me to get my checkmail to start up when ubuntu starts up?!
[09:20] <konqerr> yea well I need k3b to use it as well
[09:20] <Sparc42> BK:  it asked me the autorun but when I said open in window, nothing happened
[09:20] <konqerr> I need to burn stuff
[09:20] <konqerr> besidesd su what?
[09:20] <konqerr> how is that gonna help
[09:20] <konqerr> ?
[09:21] <ubuntu_> Hi ^^
[09:21] <konqerr> omg, c'mon someone, a simple permission line for NTFS!!!
[09:21] <konqerr> or /media/ntfs
[09:22] <Funkah> del all
[09:22] <Funkah> If it's so simple, figure it out?
[09:23] <stellar> does someone know a good vst-host program for kubuntu?
[09:26] <Sparc42> any further suggestions?
[09:27] <BluesKaj> konqerr, go unto system settings/ advanced/ disk & filesystems /...try to enable the ntfs file system
[09:28] <hendaus> helpers, anyone help please!
[09:28] <BluesKaj> BTW konqerr did you install windows after ubuntu by any chance ?
[09:28] <marko> somebody here use tango icons ?
[09:28] <amikabil> hendaus, ur problem what?
[09:29] <marko> can i get an ubuntu pakage for kde
[09:30] <amikabil> marko: u want gnome packages i guess?
[09:30] <marko> no
[09:30] <marko> for kde
[09:31] <konqerr> BluesKaj:  no I am using live CD
[09:31] <konqerr> I need to burn some stuff to free room on the m$$ partition
[09:31] <hendaus> amikabil:  i have installed gnokii, my cellphone nokia 6230
[09:31] <konqerr> m$$ isn't recognizing the DVD RW unlike Linux
[09:31] <hendaus> amikabil: i have many documents very important on my cell and i want to transfer them to my pc, how can u help me
[09:32] <konqerr> this isn't working so far: ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000
[09:32] <amikabil> marko, what package do u want?
[09:32] <konqerr> nor is this one: ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[09:32] <marko> i need tango icons for kde
[09:32] <amikabil> hendaus: ur docs on memory card?
[09:33] <hendaus> amikabil:  yes my memory card? sorry
[09:33] <BluesKaj> why the panic , konqerr ...you don't have normal access to windowa on yer pc/laptop?
[09:33] <secret> wtf? this linux is fkn playing up sothing shocking.
[09:33] <MarioBot> hola como estac
[09:33] <MarioBot> hola que hay de nuevo
[09:34] <secret> everything is big, and I can't change it too 1024x768
[09:34] <BluesKaj> !es | MarioBot
[09:34] <ubotu> MarioBot: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:34] <secret> my speaker is only working
[09:34] <secret> 1
[09:34] <MarioBot> gracias
[09:34] <amikabil> as far as i know its not yet possible to explore a phone from ubuntu as is possible in MS win
[09:34] <wouterh> hi, guidance-power-save does not seem to use the lowest power mode of my processor, even not with the powersave governor
[09:34] <secret> where'd my friend go
[09:35] <hendaus> amikabil:  i was using on windows nokia suite for my cellphone, but on kubuntu i install the same program with wine and doesnot work :(
[09:35] <konqerr> BluesKaj: I do
[09:35] <nahemoth> do you have any idea about how I can open the files "...part1.rar , ...part2.rar...etc" .... Ark normally opens them, but if the file has a password, then Ark has a problem, how can I decompress those files...?
[09:35] <konqerr> I have a liveCD and I need to burn stuff outta the NTFS partition ASAP
[09:35] <Kartibok> Hi, anyone know what the gadgets such as weather that you can put on your desktop are called? Many thanks
[09:35] <konqerr> 'causet the thing is FULL
[09:36] <konqerr> I need to free up hard drive
[09:36] <konqerr> and m$$ isn't recognizing the DVD RW
[09:36] <secret> can someone help me?
[09:36] <konqerr> so I am doing it off LiveCD
[09:36] <amikabil> hendaus: sorry impossible yet on ubuntu
[09:36] <secret> therez something wrong with my screen, theres something wrong with my sound
[09:36] <BluesKaj> secret, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/config monitor/config graphics card ...apply close and logout and back in again, now you can reset your resolution
[09:36] <hendaus> amikabil:  so there is no solution?
[09:37] <amikabil> hendaus: sorry my friend. but dont you have a memory card reader?
[09:38] <BluesKaj> konqerr, why are you trying to burn windows files with a live cd ... ?
[09:38] <konqerr> yeah
[09:38] <BluesKaj> why?
[09:38] <konqerr> 'cause m$$$ doesn't recognize the damn DVD RW
[09:38] <BluesKaj> whynot just do it in windows
[09:38] <konqerr> that's why and  Linux DOES
[09:38] <konqerr> 'CAUSDSEM$$$ DOEWN NOT WRCONSIOGE IOT!!!
[09:39] <BluesKaj> well, sorry but you have to install ubuntu first AFAIK
[09:39] <konqerr> na
[09:39] <konqerr> there's a way to do it command line
[09:39] <konqerr> I've done this before
[09:39] <tekky> anyone know why when I click on "administrator mode" the window highlights with the red box but doesnt ask for a password or bring up any config options?
[09:39] <hendaus> amikabil:  memory card of my cellphone?
[09:40] <konqerr> what are the USER permissions to pass to /media/windows?
[09:40] <BluesKaj> the time you spent in here trying to get it to work, could have been spent installing ubuntu
[09:40] <amikabil> hendaus: yes
[09:40] <konqerr> omg
[09:40] <konqerr> this is a crysys
[09:41] <tekky> actualyl I figured it out, if I Open the package manager then it will ask on the cpanel for my password as well...
[09:41] <tekky> kinda buggy but it works
[09:41] <shigutso> how do I Auto-Play songs in Amarok, and NOT Auto-Add-To-Playlist?? (using Ubuntu 7.04 + Gnome)
[09:42] <hendaus> amikabil:  ok i have save them on the memory , so is there a way to take all the files from cell to my pc?
[09:42] <BluesKaj> usb dongle hendaus
[09:43] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  whats that?
[09:43] <BluesKaj> cable and connector
[09:44] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  yes the cable is usb dku-2
[09:44] <secret> ok, ill tell you what ima gona do with this shit
[09:44] <lu-bao> help me i have newest kubuntu feisty fawn on my notebook everything works (graphics Wine + steam and so on) except sound i have no sound doesnt matter what i do in kmix :(
[09:44] <amikabil> hendaus: buy a memory card reader, less than 5dollars the chinese ones, put ur memory card there, u r done
[09:44] <secret> look at that, no sound like me
[09:44] <secret> lu boa i have same problem
[09:45] <lu-bao> secret,  huh? .
[09:45] <secret> no sound eh?
[09:45] <lu-bao> i have um Realtek High Definition Audio chip
[09:45] <secret> I have the same sound card too
[09:45] <lu-bao> its on my new toshiba satellite A100-00A
[09:45] <secret> and i get no sound in kubuntu 7.04
[09:45] <BluesKaj> lu-bao, alsamix in the terminal and Unmute using the letter 'm"
[09:46] <BluesKaj> alsamixer ..sorry
[09:46] <hendaus> BluesKaj: i connect the usb, and i open gnokii,on option there is not found the module of my nokia 6230, it shows as unknown
[09:46] <BluesKaj> hendaus,lookin in system menu storagemedia
[09:47] <lu-bao> BluesKaj, cant since PCM still has no button to unmute
[09:47] <lu-bao> otherwise when i unmute "Front" i get a weird sound like a cooler from inside rofl
[09:47] <secret> lu boa do you get sound on one side of speaker?
[09:47] <BluesKaj> the letter "m" lu-bao
[09:47] <secret> where's the letter m?
[09:47] <lu-bao> it says Card: HDA Intel  Chip: Realtek ALC861-VD
[09:47] <lu-bao> BluesKaj, i pressed m ......
[09:48] <secret> so when the mixer opens you type the letter m?
[09:48] <lu-bao> secret no i dont get sound
[09:48] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  where is system menu storagemedia?
[09:48] <secret> Realtek ALC880
[09:48] <lu-bao> i have ALC861-VD
[09:48] <BluesKaj> lu-bao, make sure you use the arrow keys to highlight your selection , then m
[09:49] <lu-bao> BluesKaj,  lol i know how to use alsamixer i would be here when i had a "mute" problem..
[09:49] <BluesKaj> should turn red
[09:49] <lu-bao> everything is at 100% and unmuted
[09:49] <lu-bao> there is no sound
[09:49] <secret> im having same problem as lu-boa
[09:49] <secret> it has to do with realtek
[09:50] <lu-bao> damn and i thought first "omfg feisty fawn how genius does that looks like so awesome nice graphics and functions" and then... no sound rofl xD
[09:50] <lu-bao> without sound i can forget the whole OS ...
[09:51] <secret> i've been having problems ever since i installed 30 mins ago
[09:51] <lu-bao> with debian4.0r0 (gnome desktop) i had sound but in kubuntu (kde) i have no sound maybe an kde issue ?
[09:51] <BluesKaj> go to the IEC958P  and put ti in analog mode ,then unmute the IEC958
[09:52] <secret> what's the IEC968P?
[09:52] <lu-bao> IEC958 is unmuted its a yellow mark at it (kmix)
[09:52] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  where is system menu storagemedia? i am at a office and i want to gave them the documents from my cell
[09:52] <BluesKaj> just scroll across , you'll see it
[09:53] <secret> whats that command again?
[09:53] <BluesKaj> hendaus, usually right beside the kmenu , it' the same one with Home
[09:53] <lu-bao> BluesKaj, i dont have IEC958P only IEC958
[09:53] <secret> to bring up the mixer in the terminals?
[09:53] <bader_> lol I have a Q:  I have Kubuntu installed.  I tried to install Ubuntu over it using an ubuntu live CD.  The installation went pretty well (I used a guided partition at 100% of the current drive) and restarted the pc.  I ended up back in Kubuntu though.. I thought It had formatted!
[09:54] <lu-bao> bader_, lol
[09:54] <bader_> I know :P I'm confused!
[09:54] <lu-bao> now thats a stupid issue never heard before :)
[09:54] <bader_> Well sorrt!
[09:54] <bader_> sorry*
[09:54] <lu-bao> for what Oo
[09:54] <lu-bao> you did nothing wrong?
[09:54] <bader_> for being stupid!
[09:54] <secret> ok listen lu, it's back to windows
[09:54] <bader_> can someone help me plz :P
[09:54] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  ok yes, so what can i do
[09:55] <lu-bao> omg -.- stop that...
[09:55] <konqerr> arrrrgghg what a failure
[09:55] <lu-bao> mh well now i'll try ubuntu my last chance :/
[09:55] <konqerr> that's why gentoo is better, for real
[09:55] <lu-bao> when i wont have sound there too then....mh
[09:55] <lu-bao> konqerr, it was never....
[09:55] <bader_> i dont have sound here, but do on ubuntu!
[09:55] <bader_> grr
[09:55] <bader_> i guess no one can help?
[09:56] <secret> it's something to do with the realtek cards... where would we get the drivers?
[09:56] <bader_> grr
[09:56] <lu-bao> gentoo is for high skilled with alot of annoying compiling stuff and issues -.-
[09:56] <darryl_> Hey does anyone here know of a work around for stupid webpages that are designed to work ONLY with IE?  I have Kubuntu and Firefox but need to access this site - does anyone know of a work around for this?
[09:56] <bader_> i guess im gone then, thanks anyways
[09:56] <BluesKaj> bader, Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same ...the diffrence is in the desktop each one uses , ubuntu uses gnome , kubuntu uses Kde , theref ore at the login screen you choose which desktop to use
[09:56] <lu-bao> BluesKaj, yeah but kde soundsystem makes issues and is stupid mostly
[09:57] <secret> ok
[09:57] <BluesKaj> darryl , try FF addon "IE for FF"
[09:57] <darryl_> BluesKaj: ah - never heard of that
[09:58] <secret> lu-boa: if you work out the problem, email me at ehlolz@gmail.com - i am going now to ask some people this question in the ubuntu forums.
[09:58] <secret> I have the same prob k
[09:58] <lu-bao> secret i hate emailing :p
[09:58] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  i open storage media, and then what can i do
[09:58] <ohma1> Ok I have an issue hopefully someone can help sort out.. I installed 7.04 x86_64 just now, and I resized my ntfs partition, leaving ~20% for ubuntu... now when I try to access my windows partition it just says starting... and freezes there
[09:58] <darryl_> BluesKaj: where you refering to this? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419 if so it does not work on Linux.....
[09:58] <secret> ok then
[09:59] <BluesKaj> lu-bao and secret , try the gnome app called  Gnome Alsa Mixer ...it's easier to setup and works
[09:59] <lu-bao> oh btw. maybe i should say that i did an upgrade installation i did no clean install from a 7.04 CD i did an internet upgrade to 7.04 from 6.06
[09:59] <ZmAY> hello, my laptop doesent want to turn on, any ideas what to do?
[09:59] <jerzy> charge the bettery?
[09:59] <darryl_> ZmAY: charge the battery?
[09:59] <secret> where do we get this app, Gnome Also Mixer friend?
[09:59] <lu-bao> buy a new power cord :D
[09:59] <ZmAY> its charged, also plugged in
[09:59] <jerzy> press the right button?
[10:00] <ZmAY> i did
[10:00] <ohma1> does anyone have a solution for the problem I outlined above?
[10:00] <BluesKaj> darryl_, sorry to hear that :( ...dunno how to help in that case , unless the opera or konqueror browsers may work
[10:00] <jerzy> change the laptop?
[10:00] <ZmAY> perhaps:)
[10:00] <ZmAY> any other ideas that might help?
[10:01] <lu-bao> but thats stupid mh i mean look i installed 7.04 and i was so proud my wireless lan was working directly (IntelPRO 3945ABG) but now sound doesnt work whats that for a crap :( why not everything works stupid realtek :(
[10:01] <BluesKaj> !gnome-alsa
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-alsa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <darryl_> BluesKaj: its becase teh stupid website needs activex - I wondering if there is something in Linux that can "emulate" this to allow me to use this website
[10:01] <secret> woah, you can't even copy and past text...
[10:01] <jerzy> kubuntu is the best distribution
[10:01] <secret> they need to fix this
[10:02] <lu-bao> jerzy, as long sound works....well...yes.....but it doesnt -.-
[10:02] <BluesKaj> secret , type in the terminal sudo apt-get install gnome-alsa
[10:02] <secret> ok
[10:02] <secret> thanks
[10:02] <BluesKaj> darryl_, I think there is , but I'm not sure how to  use it
[10:02] <konqerr> I juest wanted to say that Kubuntu didn't NOT solve my problem
[10:02] <lu-bao> kubuntu feisty fawn needs a soundcard fix :/
[10:03] <Pollywog> Was there some update to kubuntu Feisty that fixed the logout problem - having to exit to gdm to shutdown or restartt?  I have no idea why I am getting a proper exit menu but I like it
[10:03] <konqerr> something as simple as mounting an NTFS partitoini to burn sutff off it
[10:03] <konqerr> unbelivable
[10:03] <secret> couldn't find package?
[10:03] <darryl_> BluesKaj: do you know what its called?
[10:03] <hendaus> BluesKaj: excuse me dude, but i am waiting for you request , thanx :)
[10:04] <lu-bao> is it normal that kubuntu uses alot of ubuntu packages? xD
[10:05] <BluesKaj> darryl_, Mozilla Active X control for Windows , but you have to run it in Wine :(
[10:06] <Pollywog> has anyone else using kde with gdm noticed something different when they shutdown or reboot?
[10:06] <Pollywog> since yesterday
[10:06] <Pollywog> I am wondering if it is some sort of fluke
[10:06] <Pollywog> a nice fluke
[10:06] <BluesKaj> darryl_, foundit ! CrossOver Plugin Version 1.2,
[10:07] <darryl_> BluesKaj: ok i will google that - thanks
[10:07] <phazeman> hi people. does anybody running ubuntu/kubuntu on intel 82954G express chipset (vonboard video) ?
[10:08] <secret> oi maybe the soundcard is not within the start menu. for example, when the computer starts up it dosen't actually load the driver for the sound card?
[10:08] <BluesKaj> darryl_, it costs :(
[10:08] <secret> i dont know, just trying to work this out
[10:09] <c1|freaky> lu-bao: yea ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu (edubuntu also) all use the same repositorys
[10:09] <secret> does linux have a start menu? where is it?
[10:09] <secret> start-up devices
[10:09] <c1|freaky> secret: low-left that think with a K on it called kmenu
[10:09] <Pollywog> Linux?  You mean KDE?
[10:10] <c1|freaky> *'thing
[10:10] <BluesKaj> hendaus, what are you waiting for ? ...you can't find theSystem menu ?
[10:10] <secret> no start-up programs menu?
[10:10] <coreymon77> secret: ya, over in the bottom left corner, the thing with the K on it, thats the "start menu" for linux
[10:10] <amikabil> secret: you are crazy to say that!!!The "K Menu" is the start menu!
[10:10] <secret> no
[10:10] <c1|freaky> secret: autostart
[10:10] <secret> autostart programs?
[10:10] <secret> where's it?
[10:10] <secret> the folder?
[10:10] <BluesKaj> windoze ppl :)
[10:10] <coreymon77> secret: /home directory/.kde/autostart
[10:10] <secret> thx
[10:10] <amikabil> hendaus: what abt the memcard reader?
[10:11] <Pollywog> secret: ~/.kde/Autostart/
[10:11] <c1|freaky> umm i dont know wait a minute ill have a look maybe i can find it
[10:11] <coreymon77> c1|freaky: i already found it
[10:11] <Pollywog> coreymon77: is it Autostart or autostart ?
[10:11] <c1|freaky> ok ^^
[10:11] <Pollywog> I have Autostart
[10:12] <coreymon77> Pollywog: makes no diff
[10:12] <Pollywog> oh?
[10:12] <coreymon77> Pollywog: im just too lazy to type captials
[10:12] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  u told me to open storage media, but there is no system menu
[10:12] <Pollywog> well in Linux there is a diff
[10:12] <darryl_> BluesKaj: I found a better one called IEs 4 Linux
[10:12] <Pollywog> unless you know something that I don't know
[10:12] <Pollywog> well I am sure you know lots that I don't know
[10:12] <hendaus> amikabil:  the memory is on the cell phone,so what can i do?
[10:13] <secret> I cant find it
[10:13] <coreymon77> secret: try Autostart (capital)
[10:13] <Pollywog> secret you might have to cd to ~/.kde and then mkdir Autostart
[10:13] <amikabil> secret:"~" means your home folder.
[10:14] <coreymon77> Pollywog: what do you mean by that?
[10:14] <secret> there's nothing in the Autostart folder? we need it to start up the sound card
[10:14] <Pollywog> still a newbie
[10:14] <hendaus> BluesKaj: i open storage media: and it shows : cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 and ect..
[10:15] <coreymon77> secret: is that what you mean, you want to autostart hardware?
[10:15] <secret> installed 1 hour ago
[10:15] <amikabil> hendaus:you have to remove it probably by opening the back cover and removing the battary.
[10:15] <Pollywog> <---still a newbie
[10:15] <secret> i want my sound card to work
[10:15] <secret> i have no sound
[10:15] <hendaus> amikabil:  ok and then
[10:16] <Pollywog> secret what is your sound card?
[10:16] <Pollywog> which chipset
[10:16] <secret> realtek, I installed kubuntu 1 hour ago and I have not heard sound?
[10:16] <secret> i try mp3 = no sound
[10:16] <amikabil> hendaus: you have to buy a memory card reader. you will find it in your local mobile accs store.
[10:16] <Pollywog> which Realtek?
[10:16] <secret> youtube = no sound
[10:17] <secret> how do i find out?
[10:17] <GrueTamer> secret: type alsamixer in the terminal
[10:17] <GrueTamer> it should say
[10:17] <secret> Realtek ALC880
[10:17] <GrueTamer> im just curious, is anything there muted?
[10:18] <secret> HDA ULI M5461
[10:18] <amikabil> hendaus: plug the memory card in the reader and plug the reader in your pc. the mem card will auto mount just like an ordinary USB drive.
[10:18] <hendaus> amikabil:  i am at the office right now,i need to make this transfering now
[10:18] <secret> the headphones look muted
[10:18] <GrueTamer> that doesnt matter
[10:18] <Pollywog> I think Realtek ALC880 should work
[10:18] <Pollywog> in Linux
[10:19] <secret> i have my computer connected to a stereo, and i have headphones connected to stereo
[10:19] <amikabil> hendaus: then try borrowing one from your colligues!!
[10:19] <secret> it worked on windows
[10:19] <hendaus> amikabil:  here in my country cannot found memory card reader
[10:19] <rubyat> try speaker-test
[10:19] <GrueTamer> well, if you use headphones for audio, then unmute them
[10:19] <amikabil> what country?!
[10:19] <amikabil> hendaus: what country?!
[10:19] <secret> it red writing though
[10:20] <secret> i can unmute
[10:20] <hendaus> amikabil:  col
[10:20] <secret> cant unmute
[10:20] <GrueTamer> try see if the sound works without your headphones in the mix
[10:20] <amikabil> hendous: perdon me?
[10:20] <amikabil> hendaus: perdon me?
[10:21] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  http://siddharthdawara.blogspot.com/2006/09/gnokii-dku-2-nokia-6230-linux.html, i am reading this and i think there is solution
[10:21] <hendaus> amikabil:  xubuntu is the same of kubuntu?
[10:22] <amikabil> hendaus: uses less mem so runs fast.
[10:22] <secret> nope
[10:22] <nahemoth> hendaus: and uses xfce instead of KDE
[10:23] <amikabil> hendaus: what means "col"?
[10:23] <secret> restarting sound system is taken for fucking hours FUCK this is core duo wtf is this?
[10:23] <secret> sorry
[10:23] <hendaus> amikabil:  edit your /etc/gnokiirc to reflect a serial connection  , how can i open it?
[10:23] <hendaus> amikabil:  col = colombia
[10:23] <fdoving> !language | secret
[10:23] <ubotu> secret: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:24] <secret> this is frustrating
[10:24] <mattsqz> man
[10:25] <mattsqz> if its taking forever then something hates you
[10:25] <mattsqz> kill it
[10:25] <mattsqz> and try again
[10:25] <c1|freaky> there are good and bad times with linux as as with windows :D
[10:25] <mattsqz> maybe tell it to kick out some debug to ya
[10:25] <secret> i did, and i did again, it wont finish
[10:25] <amikabil> hendaus: i'm from Bangladesh and scrapy chineese 2$ mem reader are pretty available here. TRy your local chineese electronics.
[10:26] <Pollywog> secret: are you a member of the audio group?
[10:26] <hendaus> amikabil:  now the site that i gave for you, can u tell me how to make ---------> edit your /etc/gnokiirc to reflect a serial connection
[10:26] <Pollywog> look at /etc/group
[10:26] <secret> what is this audio group?
[10:27] <Pollywog> look at the file /etc/group
[10:27] <secret> i search this, nothing happen
[10:27] <Pollywog> your username should be on the same line as "audio"
[10:27] <Pollywog> like this: audio:x:29:pollywog,mythtv
[10:28] <secret> how do i get there?
[10:28] <rubyat> secret: open a Konsole and run     speaker-test   will make noise or give you errors
[10:28] <secret> also, when i log out, everything is really big on the log in screen
[10:28] <Pollywog> secret: cat /etc/group
[10:28] <nahemoth__> is there any package(s) that can open rar files which divided and passworded
[10:28] <kane_> are there packages availabe for thunderbird2?
[10:28] <Pollywog> if it is not there use 'sudo adduser <username> audio'
[10:29] <Pollywog> then logout and login again
[10:30] <secret> 'it keeps on repeating 'front
[10:30] <secret> Time per period = 2.986317
[10:30] <secret>  0 - Front Left
[10:30] <Pollywog> nahemoth__:  unrar won't do it?
[10:31] <secret> the user 'secret' is already a member of audio
[10:32] <superkirbyartist> Hey guys, I have Kubuntu installed on my iMac, but I would like OS 9 as well.  Can anyone help, please?
[10:32] <secret> dual boot
[10:32] <superkirbyartist> How, secret?  How?
[10:32] <superkirbyartist> !powerpc
[10:32] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[10:33] <GrueTamer> superkirbyartist: you just need to install grub and make room on the hard drive, and then install mac os 9
[10:33] <secret> pollywog any other ideas?
[10:34] <superkirbyartist> GrueTamer, it's Yaboot on the iMac.
[10:34] <GrueTamer> oh
[10:34] <GrueTamer> i did not know that
[10:35] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  r u there
[10:35] <hendaus> can anyone tell me how to make --> edit your /etc/gnokiirc to reflect a serial connection ?
[10:36] <illriginal> What's up guys
[10:36] <felzix> playing with cl.  you?
[10:37] <GrueTamer> hey illriginal
[10:37] <illriginal> I have a question, when i right click, click on properties, and click on permissions, it reads "owner: unknown"
[10:37] <illriginal> How do I get my machine to recognize me as the user
[10:41] <illriginal> I have a question, when i right click, click on properties, and click on permissions, it reads "owner: unknown". How do I get my machine to recognize me as the user
[10:41] <ShadyTree> does IE work in Kubuntu.  I think I need it to test cross-browser compatibility for my sites
[10:42] <ShadyTree> illriginal, cant you cahnge it
[10:42] <illriginal> ShadyTree, I uh... don't know how to :X
[10:42] <footbeta> hendaus: i read it and it was like kernel hacking. even if you do that you won't be able  to cpy your images cause gnokii doesn't have such option.
[10:42] <ShadyTree> illriginal, if not, just Alt+F2   and  kdesu konqueror
[10:42] <ShadyTree> run Konqueror with sudo
[10:43] <cathal> how do u load kde's password manager as it failed to load at the start and i cant find it in the start menu
[10:43] <footbeta> hendaus: i m amikabil
[10:43] <illriginal> heh, im on gnome :X
[10:43] <ShadyTree> oh
[10:43] <ShadyTree> then
[10:43] <fdoving> cathal: kmenu -> run command - write: kwalletmanager
[10:44] <Kartibok> secret: I had the same problem with my front screen after a did a driver change. If you change the change the resolution with the administrator mode to say 1024 x 786 and restart x you should be OK
[10:44] <hendaus> footbeta: so what about to get the gnokii source?
[10:44] <cathal> thanks fdoving
[10:45] <hendaus> footbeta: tell me how to edit /etc/gnokiirc
[10:46] <superkirbyartist> I got the Mac OS 9 running in Mac-on-Linux.  How do I install it properly?
[10:46] <footbeta> hendaus: it was like s/he double installed gnokii(frm source and frm repository)to make sure(!) and somehow combined device driver code of your cable frm kernel source.
[10:46] <illriginal> I have a question, when i right click, click on properties, and click on permissions, it reads "owner: unknown". How do I get my machine to recognize me as the user
[10:46] <illriginal> By the way this is on Gnome] 
[10:46] <nahemoth__> what do you use instead of HJSPLIT
[10:47] <hendaus> footbeta:  ok tell me how to can i edit /etc/gnokiirc , why u dont like to tell me
[10:47] <nahemoth__> what codec should I install in order to watch MKV files?
[10:47] <secret> ok thanks... but my sound problem is more serious then first thought...
[10:48] <footbeta> hendous: no taugh.just type "sudo kate /etc/gnokiirc" in command line.you will be prompted for passwd.
[10:48] <secret> alot of patchs and compiling structured idk windows
[10:48] <footbeta> hendaus: no taugh.just type "sudo kate /etc/gnokiirc" in command line.you will be prompted for passwd.
[10:48] <ShadyTree> illriginal, did you ask in #Ubuntu
[10:49] <illriginal> yeah i have been for the last 30 minutes
[10:49] <illriginal> no response
[10:49] <illriginal> im tryin to search through ubuntu forums
[10:51] <ShadyTree> illriginal, ok, just do this.  open terminal, type sudo nautilus
[10:52] <hendaus> footbeta:  can i show u the gnokii file?
[10:52] <ShadyTree> its probably a stupid way to do it, but I dont use Ubuntu
[10:52] <footbeta> hendaus: yah ofcourse
[10:53] <illriginal> Initializing gnome-mount extension
[10:53] <illriginal> ShadyTree all it did was open up my root- File Browser, still the permissions doesn't recognize that I'm the owner (owner: unknown)
[10:54] <hendaus> footbeta:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22622/
[10:54] <ShadyTree> illriginal, I know, but you can change the permissions now from the browser
[10:55] <illriginal> ShadyTree: I clicked on Computer, and it doesn't show my slave drive] 
[10:55] <illriginal> Sorry, couldn't change the permissions of "Filesyste
[10:55] <ShadyTree> illriginal, ok. I dont know then
[10:55] <illriginal> heh ok
[10:55] <illriginal> how bout htis
[10:55] <illriginal> this*
[10:55] <illriginal> how do i make myself root?
[10:56] <illriginal> desu?
[10:56] <BluesKaj> sudo su
[10:56] <illriginal> i need an owner's manual for linux lol
[10:56] <illriginal> i gotta stop dependin on others for this stuff lol
[10:56] <BluesKaj> we all need help sometimes , illriginal
[10:57] <BluesKaj> :)
[10:57] <illriginal> i know... it just sucks when you wait hours and hours at a time to get things done because you depend on others -.-
[10:57] <illriginal> everyone should be responsible for everything they own :D
[10:57] <hendaus> footbeta:  did u see if its support nokia 6230 b
[10:58] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  why u told me to open storage media,?
[10:58] <BluesKaj> thankgod this is just a hobby for me ...I'd hate to have use this room for advice if I was still working
[10:59] <BluesKaj> sorry hendaus I'm in the middle of BBQing dinner , I forgot what you were trying to do
[11:01] <footbeta> hendaus: it looks like the repository of ubuntu is old and new releases of gnokii solves your problem but only sources are available. In some weeks you will be able to find a working dloadable package.that's all i can help.
[11:01] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  i want to take all the files from he memory of my cell phone nokia 6230, and now i install gnokii and it is not working
[11:01] <BluesKaj> the connected device should show up in media storage
[11:02] <hendaus> footbeta:  the site that i gave u , it has a link to download gnokii source
[11:04] <hendaus> BluesKaj: i have connected the cable dku-2 , and i open storage media and i can see just cdrom,cdrom1,hdb,floopy,floopy0,hal-mtab.hidden and directory....
[11:05] <footbeta> hendaus: dload is no problem. u can do this from gnokii's home page. by the way my friend has a dku-2 cable and i will try it . give me your address.Maybe help you later.
[11:06] <hendaus> footbeta:  what address?
[11:06] <footbeta> hendaus: email.
[11:07] <illriginal> Can someone PLEASE help make my ownership go from UNKNOWN to illriginal (I need ownership!!!!)
[11:07] <hendaus> footbeta: did u got it?
[11:08] <hendaus> footbeta:  i open this http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/patches/00-patch-gnokiirc
[11:09] <footbeta> hendaus: wait a minute. http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-xgnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm dload them
[11:09] <hendaus> footbeta:  i dload this also: http://www.gnokii.org/download/gnokii/gnokii-0.6.16.tar.bz2
[11:09] <footbeta> hendaus: they are the latest compiled versions, but in rpm. this is no problem.
[11:10] <footbeta> hendaus: install "alien"
[11:11] <hendaus> footbeta:  i dload the two gnokii url u gave me
[11:12] <footbeta> hendaus: cpy those in your home direc and type "sudo alien **.rpm" . two .deb file should generate.
[11:14] <footbeta> hendaus: install the .deb.first the gnokii ,then the xgnokii.
[11:15] <hendaus> footbeta:  wait until alien installation done
[11:15] <hendaus> footbeta:  where can i install .deb.first the gnokii then the xgnokii
[11:18] <footbeta> hendaus: brb
[11:18] <footbeta> hendaus: kubuntu or ubuntu?
[11:18] <hendaus> footbeta:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22629/
[11:19] <misolo> n1
[11:19] <hendaus> footbeta:  see the pastebin i gave u, kubuntu
[11:22] <footbeta> hendaus: try "sudo alien --scripts **.rpm"
[11:23] <Zyklon-B> need help for mkv fi
[11:23] <Zyklon-B> les
[11:24] <footbeta> Zyklon-B: what?
[11:25] <footbeta> hendaus: any luck?
[11:25] <hendaus> back
[11:25] <hendaus> footbeta:  back
[11:26] <footbeta> hendaus: any luck?
[11:28] <footbeta> hendaus: i just generated two debians.just as i said "sudo alien --scripts **.rpm"
[11:29] <hendaus> footbeta:  i show u the pastebin url
[11:31] <footbeta> hendaus: adding "--scripts" makes the difference. try the new command
[11:31] <hendaus> footbeta:  adding "--scripts" <-- type this one
[11:32] <hendaus> but tell me how to install gnokii and xgnokii rpm
[11:32] <footbeta> hendaus: no,try"sudo alien --scripts **.rpm"
[11:34] <footbeta> hendaus:then you will have two .deb file. install them by right clickihg on them and selecting install.
[11:35] <hendaus> footbeta:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22635/
[11:35] <hendaus> footbeta:  i cant see .deb files
[11:38] <footbeta> hendaus: just remove the second copy "gnokii-xgnokii-0.6.0-1.i386(2).rpm" from your home folder
[11:38] <hendaus> footbeta:  del it?
[11:39] <Ace2016> hendaus: why not just compile it yourself?
[11:39] <footbeta> hendaus: yes, cause u have another cpy not having "(2)" suffix
[11:40] <hendaus> ye sthats right
[11:41] <amorphous_> I'm having problems understanding some ssh issues. is it possible for me to have a passkey to ssh from one user and have another user without a passkey (for automated tasks)?
[11:41] <Ace2016> Source package: gnokii (0.6.13-4ubuntu1) [universe]     ????
[11:41] <Ace2016> isn't it in the repos?
[11:41] <amorphous_> If so - could someone point me in the right direction please?
[11:41] <hendaus> footbeta:  give me the gnokii url? not xginokii?
[11:41] <Ace2016> hendaus: google is your griend ;)
[11:42] <hendaus> Ace2016:  how can i see it in the repos?
[11:42] <footbeta> hendaus: i gave you both
[11:42] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my sound?
[11:42] <hendaus> footbeta:  give me them another time please
[11:42] <illriginal> im tryin to use Alsamixer to adjust the settings but nothing works
[11:42] <Ace2016> hendaus: it should be in synaptic
[11:42] <Ace2016> hendaus: i mean adept (synptic is ubuntu
[11:43] <footbeta> hendaus: http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-xgnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm
[11:43] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working... it's being recognized but cannot hear any sound!
[11:44] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working... it's being recognized but cannot hear any sound!
[11:44] <illriginal>  #beryl
[11:44] <Ace2016> hendaus: run sudo apt-get install gnokii  in konsole, that should do it
 hendaus: wait a minute. http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-xgnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm http://gnokii.org/download/gnokii/0.6.x/rpm/gnokii-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm dload them
[11:45] <Ace2016> why get rpm files when its in the repos????
[11:45] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working... it's being recognized but cannot hear any sound!
[11:46] <footbeta> Ace2016: s/he did but that was old version that does not support dku-2 cable for 6230
[11:46] <hendaus> footbeta:  ok done another time the two files
[11:47] <Ace2016> footbeta: the version in fiesty's repo is 0.6.14-3, seems up to date to me
[11:47] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working... it's being recognized but cannot hear any sound!
[11:47] <hendaus> footbeta:  yes now the two files generated
[11:47] <Ace2016> illriginal: have you got the codecs installed?
[11:47] <amorphous_> no-one know about ssh?? :(
[11:47] <amorphous_> Ho hum...
[11:48] <illriginal> pretty sure i do...
[11:48] <illriginal> how would i go about checkin that?
[11:48] <hendaus> footbeta:  ok i install them
[11:48] <illriginal> i dont get log in nor log out sound, music, video, no beeps from messages etc.
[11:48] <Ace2016> illriginal: run kmix, see if the sound card is detected and volume settings are correct
[11:48] <BluesKaj> illriginal, have you opened alsamixer and unmuted the settings , especially IEC958
[11:48] <footbeta> hendaus: then try it.
[11:48] <hendaus> footbeta:  what shuold i do now
[11:49] <illriginal> BluesKaj, it's funny you mention that, cuz IEC958 does not exist in the alsamixer list
[11:49] <illriginal> and it was VIA DXS.. and I have no clue what that is.
[11:49] <Ace2016> illriginal: in kmix, that is in the switches tab
[11:50] <illriginal> Ace2016, i use gnome
[11:50] <illriginal> ubuntu room is too busy to answer my sound question
[11:50] <Ace2016> oh
[11:51] <illriginal> it keeps thinkin that my sound card is VIA
[11:51] <illriginal> when in fact it's SBLive
[11:51] <BluesKaj> yup illriginal, listen to Ace2016, he knows ..also install gnome-alsa ...it's an easier to use GUI version
[11:51] <illriginal> alsamixer that is.
[11:52] <hendaus> footbeta:  i open gnokii, and it opens,but where is the option to open the images from my cell?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> illriginal, r-then search on the net for linux drivers for your Soundblaster-live card...they should be available
[11:52] <ahmed> guys how to install aiglx
[11:53] <Ace2016> illriginal: well then u have mplayer, first make sure nothing is using audio, then you can do mplayer -ao help, then get a list of audio outputs, cd to a directory with an audio file (guessing u have an mp3), then do mplayer -ao (one from the list) file.mp3, see if any of them work, that is how i test stuff, alsa is your best guess
[11:54] <footbeta> hendaus: i told you before-there is no option to cpy images from mobile.you can just read msg, call etc. try a crd reader for images.
[11:54] <clever> what window manager does kde use?
[11:54] <Ace2016> clever: kwi
[11:54] <Ace2016> clever: kwin
[11:54] <clever> ahh:)
[11:54] <Ace2016> dman
[11:54] <Ace2016> missed the n the first time
[11:55] <clever> lol
[11:55] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: influx of noobs due to popularity of ubuntu
[11:55] <hendaus> footbeta:  so is there another program for tranfering images?????? i have the cd live but for windows
[11:55] <clever> was testing with compiz --replace
[11:55] <clever> but wanted to know what the 'normal' manager was so i could put it back
[11:55] <Ace2016> clever: beryl is nicer for that since you get beryl-manager
[11:56] <clever> havent installed either on the box yet
[11:56] <clever> was running compiz thru X11 forwarding:P
[11:56] <clever> from another box
[11:56] <clever> 7.04's compiz connecting to a 6.06 X server
[11:56] <footbeta> Zyklon-B: is matroska a proprietery codec? then probably it's included with w32codecs pack for xine/mplayer.
[11:56] <clever> mkv isnt a codec but just a muxing format
[11:57] <clever> and mplayer handles mkv containers easily
[11:58] <footbeta> hendaus: i don't know any of. Btw was your phone ditected?
[11:59] <hendaus> footbeta:  till ow i am waiting
[11:59] <ahmed>  how to know how much free space i got left in ma linux partition ?
[12:00] <clever> ahmed: df -h
[12:01] <hendaus> footbeta:  it doesnot detect :(
[12:02] <Ace2016> hendaus: did you try the version from the repositories?
[12:02] <illriginal> Ace
[12:02] <footbeta> hendaus: maybe you should consider memcard reader it works fine for me and i don't believe this device is so scarce in your country. Maybe u just don't know.
[12:02] <Ace2016> hendaus: the version you installed was older than the one in the repos
[12:02] <Ace2016> illriginal: yea?
[12:02] <illriginal> in my alsamixer, how can i make alsamixer only work with SBLIVE? for some reason it only wants to edit the settings of my onboard sound card
[12:03] <ahmed> [01:02]  <ahmed> i installed ubuntu studio and kde ,, i feel now my ubuntu is slow.. especially with trying to edit a system text file or so
[12:03] <ahmed> [01:02]  <ahmed> it takes a while to laod
[12:03] <ahmed> [01:02]  <ahmed> and some times never opens
[12:03] <ahmed> help plzz
[12:03] <Ace2016> illriginal: go into bios and disable it, that the easiest way
[12:04] <illriginal> hm... im pretty sure it is... brb
[12:04] <Ace2016> bye all, i have to go
[12:04] <footbeta> hendaus: maybe Ace2016 is right.Or perhaps rpm->deb was a scrap and you just opened the regularly installed one. Or maybe it didn't even install. :(
[12:05] <hendaus> Ace2016:  i am using the latest one
[12:05] <hiturunk> Hey, Someone mind helping me with sound troubles? for some reason I'm not getting audio, it's not muted, and I can hear the static..
[12:06] <hiturunk> Anyone >_>?
[12:07] <kane_> hey does anyone know what the remote desktop for KDE is?
[12:07] <hendaus> /query Ace2016 yes i am using version 0.6.14
[12:08] <hiturunk> Come ON, No one can help me?
[12:10] <footbeta> Zyklon-B: possibly you need w32 codecs pack installed.
[12:11] <footbeta> Is there anyone from columbia just to say hendaus that mem card readers are available in calumbia just like an ADSL modem.
[12:11] <hiturunk> My audio was working fine just a few minutes ago.
[12:12] <hendaus> footbeta:  i have adsl modem