=== fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] persia: someone just did an upload [12:21] :P === joejaxx starts again === \sh goes to bed....good night folks === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.128.176] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] wahooo for TeX bug triage [12:34] :-) === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-042-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] well, I now have a dh_installupstart [12:42] anybody here know if it's possible to remove a bug tracker? [12:42] LaserJock: My memory from other issues was that it wasn't possible, but that may have changed in the intervening time. [12:43] LaserJock: an upstream bug tracker? I did it one time, and I can't remember what I did [12:48] it's much easier to create a package when you base it off of another one [12:49] hmmm [12:49] I could remove the remote watch and have it "manually update" [12:49] then set the bugs to Rejected [12:49] astro73_: Yep. Collaboration is key. === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-157-224.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] hey all. How is the version of a package (svn trunk)? [12:54] fernando: It should never be svn truck, but rather svnyyyymmdd, so that one may know what code is included. [12:55] fernando: or svn(rev) (no parens, replaces "(rev)" with the revision) [01:01] nixternal: I've always thought of Jordan as being a male name and now you and American Idol have dashed and hopes of masculinity [01:01] lol [01:01] s/and/any/ [01:02] well then, to bash the masculinity even more...how about the jordans in the boybands? [01:02] I so wish I could claim Michael Jordan here [01:02] hehe [01:03] my brother wanted to name his son Pippin Scotty Johnson [01:03] haha [01:03] heh [01:03] my family said they would shun him for such an event [01:03] better than Pimpin Scotty Johnson [01:03] haha [01:04] if I ever have a boy it will be Jordan Mantha Johnson now ;o [01:04] lol [01:04] don't curse him [01:04] haha [01:05] I actually picked my daughters name which I never thought would happen [01:05] my wife grew up all over Europe, so she was into all kinds of name [01:05] s [01:05] none of the girls name I liked, and I was stuck on Jordan [01:05] then one day at taco bell feeding her pregrancy, I said how about victoria...and she fell in love === tudenbart [n=willi@xdsl-213-196-225-50.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] what is a good library package that is small that I can use to help setup a library package build? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] nixternal: Which language? [01:17] this libhttp is killing me [01:17] C [01:18] nixternal: Also, do you prefer CDBS or debhelper? [01:18] I can do either actually. [01:18] Yes, but which do you prefer? You'll end up maintaining this :) [01:19] I don't have a preference [01:19] yet.. [01:19] which ever is better..there ;) === persia looks for a simple CDBS C library [01:22] I wish I knew grep-dctrl better :) === tudenbart is now known as dothebart === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vorian [n=grrr@cpe-76-181-146-41.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vorian_ [n=grrr@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] nixternal: eel2 === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] nixternal: Or, even better, imlib2 [01:43] thank you === jordan [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] nixternal: Let me know if you have any trouble. I have an interest in getting libhttp in :) [01:45] nixternal: Also, ignore the source for those: they are examples of simple, minimalist packaging, but not necessarily simple, minimalist libraries. [01:45] roger that, thanks again [01:48] was there such a thing as 'bash-completion' or am I imaginating things? [01:48] I thought there was a thing where you ls - and got a list of ls options... [01:49] bluefoxicy: As a concept, as a UDS discussion topic, or as a package? [01:49] persia: a package [01:49] bluefoxicy: Yes, there is such a thing, but not every package installs hints. [01:49] http://www.caliban.org/bash/index.shtml#completion is this it? [01:49] persia: I can't even find the package in apt. [01:52] bluefoxicy: From what I can tell from the changelog, it is part of bash, and not distributed as a separate package. [01:52] grab-merge.sh return none? =) [01:53] fernando: it's not always 100% reliable. Visit snapshot.debian.net === TLE [n=kenneth@cpe.atm2-0-54382.0x50a1da32.kjnxx4.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] omg, I think I got it [01:55] first try at that [01:55] nixternal: See. CDBS *is* better for libraries :) [01:55] persia: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-shells/bash-completion/ was probably it, I probably saw it in gentoo [01:55] holy smokes it worked [01:55] and it isntalled everything where it should...cdbs rocks hardcore! [01:55] bluefoxicy: I seem to remember it from the past, so I'm guessing there was a merge in Ubuntu. [01:55] persia: can I put this somewhere so you can take a quick glance at it? I am sure it needs a little tweaking and cleaning [01:56] persia: well, it's not working here... ah, the files are in /etc [01:56] but .. hm [01:56] nixternal: #ubuntu-devel was discussing earlier that the distribution of .la files was deprecated - you might want to include the CDBS strip .la rule from eel2 [01:56] nixternal: REVU? === concept10 [n=concept1@ppp-70-247-163-181.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] persia: that did it. === bluefoxicy added a `source /etc/bash_completion` to ~/.profile [01:57] bluefoxicy: I'm glad you found it. [02:08] while merging with grab-merge.sh i need to change the changelog? [02:13] fernando: Likely, if only to list the remaining Ubuntu changes. [02:14] and replace MoM with a real person in the changelog entry [02:14] persia: it change version of jadetex_3.13-8 to jadetex_3.13-8ubuntu1 [02:14] then lintian return [02:14] white: jadetex source: changelog-should-mention-nmu [02:15] white: jadetex source: source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number 3.13-8ubuntu1 [02:15] fernando: You may safely ignore those two lintian warnings. [02:15] persia: ok, thanks [02:16] persia: i need to upload to revu? [02:18] Can I have dapper and edgy running on bootstrap in Feisty ? [02:18] fernando: No. Review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Merging just to make sure you've gotten everything. Then upload the debdiff between the debian package, and your candidate revision to a bug. [02:18] leonel: If you mean in a debootstrap'd chroot, yes. [02:19] (separate chroots: one for dapper, one for edgy) [02:19] persia: that's it I have qemu and works fine but I think is lighter use debootstrap [02:19] does anybody else think it would be worth it to patch lintian to remove the NMU warnings? [02:19] LaserJock: I do, but last time I suggested it, there was a linda marketing session. [02:20] well, as long as we keep Mr. Linda out of it ;-) [02:23] It's just a little change to checks/changelog-file, but in order to meet your criteria, it has to be uploaded without passing through ubuntu-main-sponsors. [02:24] hmm === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] leonel: just as a side note, not everything behaves under a chroot the same way it does in qemu. I wouldn't recommend deleting your qemu configuration. You might also be interested in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto which generates snapshot chroots on demand, to allow for easy testing without the chance of damaging the root chroot (using `schroot -c dapper` or `schroot -c gutsy` for example). [02:32] persia: why would it be a problem, we're already patching lintian, why not patch it to be quiet about NMU? === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@83.13.159.182] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [02:33] persia: great thanks [02:34] LaserJock: I don't see any real problem, you just indicated you wanted to avoid a specific person, who happens to be a member of U-M-S. While it's being patched, perhaps the version could be checked to complain if it's not in XubuntuY format. [02:35] makes sense [02:37] Maybe also check for XSBC-Original-Maintainer & @ubuntu in Maintainer? I think this is being checked by dpkg-buildpackage now, but I'm not sure. Be nice to have an extra warning for people packaging. === persia can't think of any other Frequently Encountered Problem for new packagers that lintian could check easily. [02:39] persia: dpkg-buildpackage checks for maintainer as an ubuntu.com address. [02:39] TheMuso: Thanks for the confirmation. === StevenK appears. [02:43] StevenK: Good morning. === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp30-98.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Martinp23 is now known as Martinp23|Away [03:09] cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/share/mime-info/': No such file or directory [03:09] data/Makefile:# should be replaced by following the new shared-mime-info spec. ? [03:12] persia: http://www.nixternal.com/pkg/etch/libhttp/libhttp_1.1-1.dsc [03:12] sorry I didn't get back sooner...was eatin' and watchin' some tv [03:14] bye all [03:15] brb..need to do some dishes ;) [03:15] :) === paran [n=paran@cust.fiber-lan.snet.lk.212.214.112.112.visit.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmon1 [n=toffel@ppp85-141-148-41.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] morning all [03:31] Good Morning Hobbsee [03:31] :) [03:32] heya joejaxx! === joejaxx is trying to figure out why evince will not build :\ [03:32] i think it is becauseof gutsy instability === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] heh [03:33] because of* === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca1 [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca2 [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vorian [n=grrr@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] here's an odd question [04:40] how do I host my own packages? [04:42] you make a repo [04:42] tutorial? instructions? package? [04:42] or you can just dump the files in some web server [04:43] that works, too [04:43] well, how many packages and do you want them apt-getable [04:43] I have 2 packages so far [04:43] one of which is a build dep of the other [04:44] at this point, I don't mind a lack of apt-get [04:44] I still need to write half the application [04:44] then sure, just dump them on some web server [04:44] good thing I have one [04:45] if you want them apt-getable then I'd use apt-ftparchive [04:46] which is in the apt-utils package if you don't already have it [04:49] k [04:52] hi === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] my first packages are up! http://www.astro73.com/download/deb/ === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye!"] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.134.250.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=me@N927P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === togr [n=tom@s1035-0041.dsl.start.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] Hobbsee: how do i know when packages have entered the archive once again? [06:40] joejaxx: You can look at archive.ubuntu.com. [06:40] hi Fujitsu [06:41] joejaxx: once again? [06:41] Hi LaserJock. [06:41] Fujitsu: well yes but i thought there was a more precise way [06:42] Hah, no. [06:42] Fujitsu: so, it seems there might be an interesting TeX project [06:42] What's more precise than checking if it is actually in the archive? [06:42] LaserJock: Where? [06:42] do packages appear on gutsy-changes when they are uploaded or when they are built? [06:42] The former. [06:42] ok [06:42] Well, when they are accepted. [06:42] Fujitsu: I'm working with upstream and another guy on doing a TeXLive backports repo [06:43] Sounds nasty... [06:43] hrmm...any DDs here to look at a library package for sponsorship :) [06:43] How well does it backport? [06:43] persia: ^^ :) [06:43] the guy has got Edgy ok [06:43] Feisty shouldn't be a problem [06:43] persia is dd? i did not know that [06:43] but sounds like Dapper was a beast so I think we won't bother [06:43] I wouldn't. [06:43] joejaxx: don't know, but persia has been helping me big time with my Debian stuff [06:44] Fujitsu: but I think we're going to use PPA to do it [06:44] nixternal: ah ok :) [06:44] joejaxx: Not according to db.d.o [06:44] Fujitsu: would you have any interest in working on that? [06:44] LaserJock: Sure, I like TeX stuff. [06:45] just want to get an opinion or 2 on a library package I created for Debian before I go to the mentors [06:45] Once PPA exists. [06:45] StevenK: oh ok [06:45] Fujitsu: Monday ;-) [06:45] Really? [06:45] yeah [06:45] the beta server at least [06:45] It's targeted for 1.1.6 [06:45] I talked with cprov today [06:45] Ah, right. [06:46] Fujitsu: ppa doe exist [06:46] LaserJock: yay! do we have documentation for it? [06:46] Hobbsee: Not for us mortals. [06:46] Hobbsee: no, no [06:46] pity === Fujitsu was disappointed to see kiko untarget the LP non-freeness bug this morning. [06:46] I think it's person-by-person basis === Hobbsee wants to see kde 3.5.7 for dapper on it [06:47] if it's worht it [06:47] LTS releases are always worth it. [06:47] Fujitsu: anyway, if you're interested I can talk to cprov about getting you in on it too [06:47] Yay :) [06:47] because I don't like the idea of me being the only person doing it [06:48] how can I get upstart to reread event.d? [06:48] wasn't that implied in your mediator role? [06:48] LaserJock: please ask to get me on it, please [06:48] I'm wondering how they'd deploy PPA on beta, as it requires enormous changes to the archive (archive-rework isn't implemented on production yet, AFAIK) [06:48] er, -please [06:48] I'm surprised ~motu wasn't invited. [06:48] well, hang on a little bit guys [06:49] don't get all excited [06:49] I think they want to ease into it [06:49] Not surprising. [06:49] they might have an announcement Monday [06:49] so I don't want to preempt them too much ;-) [06:50] ;) [06:50] astro73_: noted in /usr/share/doc/upstart/README.Debian.gz [06:50] but as MOTU liasion to LP I'll definately push for ~motu [06:50] I've been talking to kiko regularly about having MOTU get access to PPA before it gets releaseed [06:50] so we don't get surprised [06:51] crimsun: thanks (I keep on forgetting about /usr/share/doc) === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:55] ah [06:56] upstart doesn't tell you if you have a syntax error [06:56] it just says the job doesn't exist === ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock out, good night everybody [07:31] Night LaserJock. [07:31] night LaserJock === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [07:49] hey, I am going to have a new upstream release built and tested here shortly for kchmviewer. I have just contacted the maintainer in Debian to let him know there is a new update. [07:49] should I put ths package somewhere (bug,server, revu) or just wait and see if it gets into unstable? [07:49] I let him know that if he is to busy I would be mroe than happy to maintain it [07:49] I look like a wimp with just 1 debian package ;) [08:03] it's good practice to provide him with a debdiff [08:04] roger [08:04] anyone have a chm file handy? I need to fix a couple of bugs === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] nixternal: Yup. [08:21] ~/ubuntu/done/edgy/vtk/vtk-5.0.1/Examples/GUI/Win32/vtkMFC/MDI_Instructions.chm === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@213-140-18-133.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] Hi all [08:26] heya [08:28] argh, this is annoying [08:28] I can't add an upstream bug report to smb4k in malone [08:28] tells me to select an appropriate project and that I can avoid the step by updating the packaging info [08:30] upstream upstream or Debian upstream? [08:30] upstream upstream [08:30] url? [08:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smb4k/+bug/90548 [08:31] meaning the upstream upstream bug. [08:31] https://developer.berlios.de/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=11189&group_id=769 === StevenK chuckles. "upstream upstream" [08:33] oh, not set up in LP. [08:35] StevenK: Watch out, there's also a project called upstream, so it could be upstream upstream upstream. === StevenK beats Fujitsu with an ATM machine. [08:35] hahaha [08:35] Hrm, maybe you're too young for those ads. === Fujitsu uses his PIN number. === Fujitsu hits his NIC card. [08:36] Stupid TAFE instructor talking about NIC cards. [08:36] Heh heh === afflux [i=fnord@pentabarf.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] keescook: ping [08:46] nixternal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/2886 [08:46] Launchpad bug 2886 in malone "Add support for developer.berlios.de bug tracker" [Wishlist,Confirmed] === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-45.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] I swore I had linked to one of the smb4k bugs before...guess not [08:53] keescook: You wanted me to keep you informed on my progress in the wordpress CVE bug. I noticed that the debian version that fixed these bugs also fixed about 7 other security vulnerabilities and I think it gets quite complicated to fix them all. I'd update to 2.2 or at least 2.0.10 [08:54] nixternal: My apologies that it took me almost 6 hours to notice you sent me a URL. Please see http://pastebin.ca/511065. [08:55] persia: Not good enough! :-P [08:55] hello all [08:55] thanks persia [08:55] hei persia got a min? [08:55] StevenK: Hi! Weren't you going to proofread the Contributing page? [08:55] jussi01: Sure. [08:55] persia: Sure. Like me. [08:55] Er. [08:55] Link, even. === StevenK grins shiftly. [08:56] StevenK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing [08:56] "shiftily"? [08:56] "In a shity manner", no? [08:57] ShiFty! [08:57] persia: the copyright has the packaging license stuff already in it === persia looks again [08:57] persia, you've commented that the .desktop file doesnt validate, what do you mean by that? also, there is no year of copyright anywhere on the page or program... [08:57] no idea, but we're MOTU - we can Auden up words [08:58] jussi01: For no year of copyright, contact the upstream maintainers to ask when they wrote it. For .desktop validation, use the desktop-file-validate tool from the desktop-file-utils package. [08:58] persia: If one does not already exist, open a bug in Debian & attach the patch (use Tags: patch( [08:58] ok, so saving state for changed mixer control element strings - it's best to not even attempt this. [08:59] I think it's better to wipe the state file and store it on dist-upgrades. [08:59] persia: "The package bugs page in launchpad https;//bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagename"; launchpad -> LaunchPad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] persia, ok, ill look into it. thanks [08:59] persia: "The package bugs page in the BTS http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=packagename"; BTS -> Debian BTS [08:59] Launchpad, not LaunchPad [09:00] nixternal: debian/copyright tells me that I should have received a copy of the GPL, but it doesn't tell me where I can find it. On the other hand, I appear to have completely missed the last line of the file on my first read, so ignore #4. [09:00] hehe === persia takes notes from dilligent proofreading [09:00] ya, I just threw the package up for you to take a quick look. I had all of that stuff pretty much fixed already here locally [09:00] I just need to do the ITP [09:00] seeking documentation on that one [09:01] persia: Mention dget to download sources... === persia investigates dget [09:02] dget is a lifesaver. [09:04] OK Having never used dget, am I correct that the standard call to mirror apt-get source would be `dget -qx --path . --insecure URL`? [09:05] persia: Meh, dget -x <.dsc URL> [09:05] StevenK: Won't that redownload orig.tar.gz if you already have one? [09:05] I don't think so. [09:05] What Fujitsu said. [09:06] Third paragraph of description. [09:06] OK. Thanks. [09:06] persia: "Has an Ubuntu maintainer" - is worded badly. "Has the Maintainer set as per " [09:06] it'd be nice if launchpad actually supported dget. [09:06] dget: using existing libxcb_1.0.orig.tar.gz [09:07] ^ [09:08] Hobbsee: It's just because librarian is odd [09:08] Hobbsee: File a wishlist bug and wait a decade. [09:08] Hobbsee: LP doesn't support dget? I'm less sure I want to document the practice of using dget then, as the primary use case will be for contributors running feisty to download gutsy sources. [09:08] Fujitsu: i'm thinking of that. [09:08] persia: If you try and dget from a librarian URL, it won't work. [09:08] persia: As in, you have to calculate the .dsc address manually. [09:08] persia: nah...debian, etc, uses it. it's worth it [09:08] persia: I recommend being consistent with path syntax, e.g., debian/ as well as debian/patches (why omit the trailing '/'?) [09:09] crimsun: It was late, and I wasn't careful enough :) [09:12] Contributing is excellent, BTW. One concern is that the length may seem daunting. Can we make the more lengthy and detailed sections separate wiki pages? === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] Or is it intended as a one-stop reference? [09:14] crimsun: It could certainly be broken down, but I wanted to try to avoid pages like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted that might encourage people to just ask again, rather than click the pretty link. To me the only section that seems like it should really be extracted is the detailed guide to generating a new candidate revision. [09:16] On the other hand, none of the detail sections seem very long, and I'm not sure how to get something that covers basic procedure (like Preparing Patches or Preparing New Packages) without the guide. Suggestions would be welcome. [09:19] yeah, "Preparing New Revisions" is fine WRT length to me, but I'm not sure a newcomer will share my opinion. [09:19] Is there anyone new here? What do you think? === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:24] To ask that differently: I'd really like to hear from some non-MOTUs who are interested in helping with the work about the length of the page, and whether the information is helpful. === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] persia: http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=libhttp [09:27] there you go! [09:27] ITP filed, additions and everything cleaned up [09:28] persia: which page? the getting started wiki page? [09:28] nixternal: Thanks. I'll take a look. [09:29] k..I am going to head to bed now...be back in about 6 to 8 :) [09:29] jussi01: Thanks a lot. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing [09:29] g'nite all, and thanks again persia for the help [09:29] nixternal: Good night. [09:30] nixternal: Also, looks great. Good luck. [09:34] persia: its very helpful except it needs a couple of things, 1. a table of contents! it feels long because you have no idea whats coming in front of you. 2. the 3 parts of things to do need bigger headings/better separators - atm the just merge into one big blob... [09:34] jussi01: Thanks. That was the fear. [09:35] the info in it is great though. [09:35] Could anyone point me to a good resource for adding a TOC? [09:35] persia: my wiki page has one [09:35] jussi01: Thanks. I'll look at that source. [09:35] :D [09:36] persia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JussiSchultink if you need it === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:44] persia: btw, I just uploaded the fixed version :D http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5276 (mnemosyne). Anyone else is welcome to take a look also! === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:49] jussi01: according to the python policy, python-support should be >= 0.5.3 [09:50] thanks Lutin I read something else... probably and old doc. [09:51] jussi01: the new python policy is available here : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy [09:52] Lutin: bookmarked :D thanks [09:52] Lutin: Thanks. jussi01: I'll catch the next one :) [09:52] persia: ok [09:52] :D [09:52] jussi01: np. btw, the last line of your copyright file is longer than 80 chars, maybe you could split in [09:52] Lutin: sure [09:53] s/in/it [09:54] StevenK: Fujitsu: Thank you. I've incorporated your corrections. [09:55] crimsun: jussi01: I've updated the page. How does this seem with regards to length / navigation? [10:00] persia: the ToC is great, much better IMO. [10:00] persia: looks much better!!! [10:01] Thanks. I'll leave this. Anyone think it would be better for /topic than https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted? [10:01] me!! [10:01] jussi01: (ok, sounds picky :) ) : there shold be a double space before the Homepage: line in the description (debian/control) . maybe you also wan to remove all the blank lines at the bottom of debian/rules. and I *guess* (worth checking though) that Build-Depends: on python-all rather than python-all-dev would be better [10:01] persia: feel free - you have the powah. [10:02] Lutin: picky is good :D === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:persia] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTUs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing [10:02] crimsun: I just like to solicit support before taking action :) === Neonightmare [n=neonight@226.86.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === orion2012_ [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] so say a package doesn't provide a makefile with a install: section. What is the correct way to handle moving the resultant binary? Should a dpatch that adds a install: section to the makefile be done? === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] jussi01: this package for use with python2.4, right ? [10:07] is for use* [10:07] superm1: that's one option, preferably send the patch upstream for inclusio [10:07] n [10:07] Woah, that's a short topic. [10:08] superm1: There are two schools of thought. One is to patch the makefile, the other is a really huge debian/package.install. I recommend the former. [10:08] jussi01: or both ? [10:08] Ok, i'll go for the former then [10:08] thanks [10:08] Fujitsu: That's the idea :) [10:08] persia: Or a small package.install, depending on the number of files. [10:08] Some packages only want a couple of files. [10:09] superm1: Fujitsu is correct. If there are only a couple files, debian/package.install is better. [10:09] ok, i'll have to look how many resulting binaries show up === Neonightmare [n=neonight@226.86.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:14] Lutin: yeah, 2.4 [10:14] jussi01: I can't get why you build-depend on python-qt4-dev, python-xml, python-pygame. what's the rationale behind this ? [10:15] hmmm, package said it required them..... [10:15] anyway, please continue to comment, i will be back shortly. (the wife wants me....) [10:16] jussi01: Oo. weird [10:16] jussi01: They're probably runtime dependencies. If it builds fine without them, leave them out. === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:18] tepsipakki, falcon in feisty is not that far away, I hope to make a beta release on monday === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp30-98.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:32] hey guys [10:33] Seveas: awesome! [10:33] jussi01: Python:Depends should be python:Depends in control [10:33] i think ubuntu has an issue with sdhc cards [10:33] it cant read my 2gb card, have tried on 2 boxes, feisty and edgy [10:33] jmg: what about dapper and gutsy? [10:33] tried on 3 boxes, actually. [10:34] crimsun: no dapper or gutsy boxes here [10:34] [ 533.213253] usb 5-6: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 === astro73__ [n=astronou@ppp-69-214-15-18.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mafix [n=marfix@152.174.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] feisty has a different error [10:36] related to fat32 [10:36] have tried on 3 different card readers as well [10:36] tried windows too to prove i wasnt on crack === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:45] whats the current feisty kernel version? [10:46] http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=116681336225318&w=2 [10:46] It tracks git, so is currently some prerelease of 2.6.22 [10:47] that is the gutsy one [10:47] feisty is 20 [10:47] gutsy will be 22 [10:47] jussi01: seems that the program fails to run when using python-qt4. I think it should depend on python-qt3 rather [10:47] and drop the explicit dependancy on python2.4 === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-77-151.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] Oh, right, missed the feisty bit. [10:48] edgy is 19 [10:48] er [10:48] 16 [10:48] this box is edgy and will stay that way for a while === acm [n=ameinke@p54BC358F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:52] Isn't it .17? === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua only knows that dapper has .15 [10:53] Riddell, can you mute ubotwo please [10:54] or sladen ^^ that applies to you too :) [10:54] you have ops, too. [10:54] (AFAIK it's still open.) 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