=== Tampler [n=Mbvana@83.142.21.168] has joined #xubuntu [12:27] i dont think i did === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [12:27] hmmm.... [12:27] lemme think .... [12:27] i guess it isnt really that big of a deal [12:28] i mean, it looks nice how it is [12:28] yeah, but honestly ... i don't like metacity, xfwm4 is half of why i use xfce ... its a really nice window manager [12:28] well, if u wanna keep working with me here im more than up for it [12:28] id like to see it [12:29] but i dont wanna take all of ur time either [12:29] jordan: yeah, lemme check some config files and then cross reference with you, just a moment i need to locate them [12:29] k [12:29] possibly i can use beryl to change the window manager? [12:29] i see something like that in the beryl manager [12:30] jordan: technically you could, but you shouldn't need to ... you can give that a try while i search around for the right files [12:30] okay [12:30] i tried it, and it seemed to change the window manager [12:31] jordan: well thats good [12:31] now there is a little o in the top left corner [12:31] yup [12:31] and an up arrow in the right [12:31] is that xfwm4? [12:31] the o is for "sticky" and the up arrow is for "shade" [12:31] yeah, it is [12:31] okay [12:31] well, ill mess around with this then === sander [n=sander@ip137-160-212-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] i really appreciate everyone help === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-69-50-51-206.pivot.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] and you can configure those in Applications->Settings->Settings Manager->Window Manager .... under "button layout" you can drag and drop which ones are displayed or hidden === SamRose [n=SamRose@76.20.140.252] has left #xubuntu [] [12:32] im sure this isnt the last that you will see me here [12:32] jordan: anytime :) [12:33] jordan: this is what we are here for [12:33] well thanks again [12:33] have a nice night/afternoon [12:33] ttyl [12:33] and you too .. [12:33] bah, too slow === maxamillion needs to stop doing work and start paying more attention to irc :P === T`2 [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === T` [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=gruetame@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === null [n=null@ip68-9-38-88.cl.ri.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] PriceChild: hi hi === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === ReMixx [n=ReMixx@adsl-065-006-159-212.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:37] hi is anyone here knowledgable with grub error 17s? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-84-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-215.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === octoberd1n [n=daniel@pool-151-204-239-144.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === ZenDJiNN [n=djinn@ABordeaux-156-1-62-250.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [01:48] I've downloaded a theme and coppied it into /usr/share/themes, but when I go to the Settings Manager and then "Window Manager." the theme isn't in the list of styles [01:48] How come? [01:52] octoberdan: have you extracted the theme files? [01:53] j1mc: I have [01:53] j1mc: Just as the directions described [01:53] octoberdan: hmmm... give me a second, please. :) let me check something. [01:54] Sure [01:54] http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Neutronium+Gilouche?content=57176 [01:54] Is the theme [01:55] octoberdan: can you navigate to where you've placed theme? [01:56] . . . using thunar to navigate there would be fine. [01:57] octoberdan: hello? === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-84-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #xubuntu [] [01:57] gah [01:59] octoberdan, can you get there? [01:59] anyone here good with installing xubuntu? I'm having rather annoying issues with partitioning, grub, etc. [01:59] ReMixx, you using the live cd or the alt-cd? [02:00] live [02:00] (no idea what alt-cd is) [02:00] hmmm.... [02:00] vidd: Yes === vidd never uses the live cd... [02:00] erm, what exactly is alt-cd? [02:00] octoberdan, what is the directory path [02:00] ReMixx: Non live-cd installer [02:01] ReMixx: Always you to install in some ways that you wouldn't be able to with the live cd [02:01] ReMixx, it is an installer-only...MUCH easier to install with then the live cd [02:01] ahh, isee that now on the xubuntu.org site [02:01] i'll try that [02:01] vidd: /usr/share/themes/Neutronium Gilouche [02:01] ReMixx, you have issues with that...i can help! [02:02] octoberdan, give me a sec....let me see where i have my themes [02:02] lol ok [02:02] it's gonna take like 18 hours to download... erm [02:03] vidd: I might have got it working, one moment... [02:03] ReMixx, can you connect to the internet via a wired network card? or do you use dial-up? [02:03] wired nic [02:03] dsl [02:03] ReMixx, then get the mini iso...and do a net install === vidd has it on his personal website.... [02:04] vidd.homelinux.net:8080/test [02:04] ah thanks [02:04] got it? [02:04] firefox doesn't know how to handle that protocol? [02:04] first time i've seen that [02:04] ah i had an extra colon, my bad [02:05] my dsl blocks port 80 [02:05] verizon equals evil [02:05] hmmm i'm downloading the entire iso [02:05] its small [02:05] 594mb [02:05] not so small i would say [02:06] which iso did you grab? [02:06] xubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso [02:06] was the only xubuntu one on there [02:06] dang.... [02:06] one minute...let me slap the mini iso back on there [02:07] oh ok [02:07] so i need to do a netinstall from the box i'm putting this on right? [02:07] i just bought a new nic for it (so old it never had one) [02:08] there...refresh [02:08] it is called mini.iso [02:08] yup downloading [02:08] take about 2min [02:09] so i should go ahead and put that nic in then eh? [02:09] yeah [02:09] and pray it works lol [02:09] how new is it? [02:09] like i just bought it today [02:10] but the box is an old pentium 2 450mhz [02:10] no ethernet ports on it, been using usb wireless [02:10] nic cards havent changed much in the last 3 years...should be fine [02:10] cool [02:10] usb wireless....what chipset? [02:11] uh it's a netopia usb wireless adapter [02:11] don't know a model number [02:11] under the live cd....what does lsusb say? [02:11] and does it work with the live cd? [02:12] oh i didn't try it with live cd [02:12] that was when i had xp installed on it [02:12] (yeah it ran xp) [02:12] the live cd will tell you if the usb wireless will work or not....well by default anyway.... [02:13] if the live cd will connect to the internet with your wireless usb without extra configuration, then that mini iso will too [02:14] and you can hold off on installing that pci card (or just install it anyway) [02:14] i'm just gonna install it anyways [02:14] wireless is too finicky for a dedicated server === vidd would recomend installing it prior to installing anyway so the default install will take care of it all for you, and you wont have to jump thru any hoops to install it after the install is complete === vidd loves his wireless (now that it works) on his laptop [02:15] lol ok i'll do wirless firs tthen [02:16] your download complete already? [02:16] yup [02:16] i should go ahead and burn it right [02:16] i could tell....the lights on my server box stopped flashing! [02:16] yep [02:16] lol [02:17] so put the live cd in to see if wireless works? [02:17] soon that box will be sitting in the NOC @ work, and i wont have to worry about port 80 blocking [02:17] yep [02:18] but if your going to install the nic anyway, might just as well install it prior to using the net installer [02:18] .... [02:18] put the nic in first? [02:18] see if the usb works....weather it does or not, install the nic [02:19] ohhh [02:19] ok [02:19] so installing nic now then [02:21] you just want to see if the usb works, cuzz you might want to use that net installer on another machine without a LAN nic [02:22] i see, where is the net installer installing from? [02:23] it is installing from the apt repositories available online [02:23] oh ok === tuga3d [n=chatzill@87-196-66-218.net.novis.pt] has joined #xubuntu [02:23] i put the live cd back in to see if the wireless works [02:23] it's gonna take a few min to load up... [02:23] hi all! [02:23] howdy! [02:24] i've instaled xubuntu, but i need the kernel source to compile my modem drivers [02:24] can anyone tell me where i can get them? === octoberdan [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/octoberdan] has joined #xubuntu [02:26] you gan get them via synaptic [02:26] i dont have internet in xubuntu :( i need the modem drivers. [02:27] they are on the install cd [02:27] you dont NEED to be connected to get them [02:28] just make sure you have the cd in your /etc/apt/sources.list file UNcommented [02:28] what's the name of the package? i've searched for kernel souce. [02:28] one sec.... [02:30] hey vidd, i plugged in the wireless usb, but how do i see if it's working? [02:31] its either linux-image-[kernel version] or linux-header-[kernel version] .... i recommend you install both [02:31] ReMixx, open a web page [02:31] ok, thanks!!!! [02:31] and go somewhere [02:31] hmmm how do i open firefox? there's no app bar [02:32] no app bar....? [02:32] yeah, i found that odd too [02:32] can you right-click? [02:32] yeah [02:32] oh ok igot it [02:32] what you get? [02:32] i alt-f2 and typed firefox [02:32] ther ya go [02:32] yeah, this live cd is weird [02:32] i don't like it too much lol [02:33] and ppl wonder why i install exclusively from the alt or net-install === ZenDJiNN [n=djinn@ABordeaux-156-1-62-250.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [02:33] ok so i need to enter my wireless's security thingy... [02:33] to connect to the network [02:33] how do i do that? [02:34] [alt-f2] then gsudo network-admin [02:35] no such file or directory as gsudo [02:35] lol [02:35] sudo worked [02:35] yeah...sorry for the typo [02:35] forgive me for being new at this hehe === vidd needs to renew his hunting licence for the keyboard [02:37] uggg, i need to manually configure all the wireless stuff? [02:37] need either bigger keys or smaller fingers [02:37] manually????? no [02:37] do you see "wireless"? [02:37] oh dhcp, my bad [02:37] i was doing static ip [02:37] that's why === vidd always uses static ips on his linux boxes...let that dhcp for the windows boxes === vidd has a dhcp range of 4 [02:38] lol [02:38] i don't know what to put for like gateway and stuff [02:39] the gateway is the ip of your network device.... [02:39] oh [02:39] well i'll just use dhcp for now [02:39] ie...iuf your router is @ ip[ 192.168.200.1, then THAT is yoiur gateway [02:39] oh ok === vidd starts looking at the feasability of surgically reducing the size of his fingertips..... [02:41] ReMixx, do we have contact? [02:41] rhe EASIEST way to tell for sure is to go to terminal and type iwconfig [02:42] grr [02:42] my keyboard randomly stopped working [02:42] if the "access point" says "invalid" then no....if it has a mac address[xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx] then you have a yes [02:42] let me get my keyboard working again... [02:44] did i mention i HATE the live cd? [02:44] no kidding [02:44] like power isn't going to my keyboard anymore [02:44] turning on wireless apparently turns off the keyboard [02:44] hmmmm [02:45] guess i have to restart and pray [02:45] they keyboard isnt WIRELESS by chance is it? [02:45] nope [02:45] ps2 [02:45] then just nix the wireless for now, install the nic drop in the disk...and pray! [02:45] lol [02:45] ok power is back in the keyboard, numlock lit up [02:45] lol [02:45] that would be easier [02:46] so just pop the netinstaller in? [02:46] yep [02:46] and take out the wireless [02:46] for now [02:46] yeah [02:47] out of curiosity....how much ram you got running? [02:47] 384 i believe? [02:47] of god only knows how fast ram [02:47] it's really old hehe [02:47] that netinstaller brings up an ubuntu splash screen [02:47] yes.... [02:48] can i still get xubuntu out of it? [02:49] near the end, you will get an option of which desktop environment you want....ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, or LAMP [02:49] oh ok [02:49] did i mention i LOVE the net installer? [02:49] lol [02:50] so default installation [02:50] or server? [02:50] default [02:50] if you do server, you will get a CLI only install [02:51] oh ok [02:51] and NOT get the options listed above [02:51] i see [02:51] in which case, you simply go to the command line, and type "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" [02:52] ah [02:52] does the exact same thing [02:52] i need to find another ethernet cable before i go any further [02:52] brb [02:53] just takes you 3 minutes longer...and you do [maybe] one extra reboot [02:55] ok back [02:56] plugged it in and the led's lit up [02:56] that's good === Catoptromancy__ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:58] ReMixx, did your install find your home network? [02:58] yup [02:59] it's "Loading additional components" [02:59] then your off to the races [02:59] hotdog! [02:59] now does this netinstall have a partitioner in it too? [02:59] you hit a snag...im here to get you thru it [02:59] ReMixx, yes it does [02:59] oh ok [03:00] man i hope they clean up the live cds... [03:00] you will have the option of using the entire drive, or moving your windows partion to the side and using the rest [03:00] that's just ridiculous... especially for people who don't know computers well [03:00] there's no windows on it [03:01] oh ok i'm at the partitioner now [03:01] i'll choose manual [03:01] then just select the option of using the entire disk and let it do the hard stuff for ya! [03:01] or guided using all? [03:01] oh ok [03:01] lol [03:01] what's LVM? [03:01] it is a method of "spanning partitions" [03:02] hmmmm [03:02] do i need that? [03:02] do you want other stuff on here besides ubuntu? [03:02] just xubuntu [03:02] i got 2 hdds in it too [03:02] do you have more then one hard drive? [03:02] yup 2 [03:03] how big? [03:03] well the main one is 12gig and the slave is 36ish [03:03] before i was trying to do root in the 12gig and /home in the 36 [03:03] 12 gig and 36 gig? [03:03] yes. [03:04] it's old :) [03:04] you want to use guided on all of the 12 gig.... [03:04] after it is done, you want to go back and do a manual..... [03:05] oh ok [03:05] how would i go about doing the manual? [03:05] gparted? [03:05] or do i have to use the net-installer again [03:05] before you write the changes...THAT wis when you go back.... [03:06] cripes... [03:06] i thinki just told it to write [03:06] you want it to auto set up your first drive, then manually set up the second drive as /homne [03:06] hmmm [03:06] can i do that later on? [03:06] oh i see a go back option [03:06] yes....but it is rather complicated [03:06] use it [03:06] ok back intot he partitioner [03:07] what do you see/ [03:07] ? [03:07] you SHOULD see something like hdb >unpartiioned sp0ace [03:08] ok i think i set it up correctly, let me read it off to you [03:08] IDE1 master - #1 primary 12.4Gig for ext3 '/', #5 logical 592.2MB swap [03:09] IDE2 slave (hdb) #1 primary ext3 /home [03:09] sopunds about right... [03:09] yeah [03:09] looks about right [03:09] you have /, you have swap, you have /home [03:09] correct. [03:10] thats all you need [03:10] cool, writing changes to disk [03:10] acually its more then you NEED but its what you want...ya know what i mean [03:10] =] [03:10] haha yeah [03:12] noiw you can sit back, relax, read the articles on www.linux.org, have a beer..... [03:12] lol, still configuring [03:12] XD [03:13] so where are we supposed to get this net-installer if i didn't get it from your server? === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@c-134-230-40.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] and now it's installing === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch [03:13] its burried somewhere in the ubuntu archives [03:13] .... [03:13] that's no good [03:13] what about an alt-cd? [03:13] how does that work [03:14] the alt cd is found on the same page as the live cd...you just have to scroll down to find it [03:14] oh...it works much the same way [03:15] it just has all the files you are now downloading on the disk itself [03:16] ohhhh [03:16] lol [03:16] yeah i could find the alt cd [03:17] this method saves you the trouble of immediately having to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to get the lastest and greatest of everything [03:17] ahhh [03:17] i see [03:17] and it will let me choose xubuntu eventually? [03:17] you dont install already patched bugs [03:17] yes it will [03:17] awesome [03:19] unfortunately it might take all night to install... [03:19] i thought you had DSL? [03:20] 20-30 minutes more....max [03:20] well it's been at 6% for a long time [03:20] and it just jumped to like 30 [03:20] lol [03:20] now it's really going [03:21] yeah...that 7th % is a pain in the [explicative deleted] [03:21] lol [03:21] no kidding! [03:21] i think it was because it's unpacking what it download === xjdriver69 [n=ubuntu@m115e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:21] it's such a slow cpu === xjdriver69 [n=ubuntu@m115e36d0.tmodns.net] has left #xubuntu [] === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:23] no....that has always been a slow spot...even with my rocket machine [03:23] oh ok [03:23] 34 and 48 were slow too [03:23] and those were unpacking stages [03:24] my rocket machine has 1gig of ram and that part still took a minute or 2 [03:25] well, it will always take longer to install the package then to download it on machines with ram deficiencies [03:25] =] [03:25] hehe yup [03:25] i'm so glad the nic worked [03:25] it costed $15 and i had a $10 coupon [03:26] so i paid $4.99 for it [03:26] as i said...wired nics havent changed all that much in the last 3 years, and most manufactures are making sure they work with linux [03:26] the actual box said windows only [03:26] like explicitly [03:26] wireless is a totally different story..... [03:26] but whatever, it works [03:27] the FCC in the US has laws about broadcast frequencies and such.... [03:27] yeah you try to install a wireless usb card and your keyboard will die [03:28] and open source will let ppl change what frequencies thier cards broadcast, so someone might try to take out a plane .....or some other such [explicative deleted] [03:29] lol [03:30] some hard wire the frequencies....duhhhhh [03:30] so how do you know so much about linux vidd? [03:30] my motto is hack it till it hurt...i mean works! [03:30] lol [03:31] just from using it...paying attention here, and reading [03:31] ah, very nice [03:31] for example...i spent a month trying to get my wireless card to work on my laptop..... [03:31] yuck [03:32] i'm getting more interested in linux, especially now that opengl is confirmed to be back into development... 3.0 by the end of the year! [03:32] and vista sucks. [03:33] i was getting ready to order some replacement, linux-friendly wifi cards and throw the one that came with the laptop under a truck, when my daughter touched a button on the bottom edge of the laptop [a button i never noticed before] and poof....it worked [03:33] LOL [03:34] did you use the wireless adapter before? [03:34] like on a different OS? [03:34] yes...that was what had me banging my head against the wall [03:34] oh [03:34] it worked in linux [03:34] it wasn't a toshiba laptop was it? [03:34] worse....a compaq [03:34] oh ok [03:34] my mom has a toshiba and it had a hidden wireless button on it too [03:35] i personally use a dell laptop [03:35] with xp on it [03:35] why on EARTH would ANYONE want to turn off the wi-fi? [03:35] ReMixx, we hope to fix that [03:36] !bug 1 [03:36] Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [03:36] !windows [03:36] ... [03:36] lol [03:36] i'd switch to linux if it wasn't for directx [03:36] what do you need direct x for? [03:36] i can play some games with the 6800go in here [03:37]